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00:01 lordcirth Has anyone seen Jeija lately?
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00:20 sdzen whats with the new buttons on the main menu?
00:20 sdzen It looks kinda weird.....
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00:21 sapier I've just replaced main menu by formspec based version so everyone can have his own menu ;-)
00:22 Jordach hey guys
00:22 lordcirth sapier: so we can define the main menu as a formspec now? is it in minetest.conf?
00:23 sdzen tell me is this gamemode selection thing going to stay?
00:23 sdzen because it looks rather sktechy
00:23 sdzen and is actually less efficent
00:23 sapier current its still work in progress
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00:24 sapier atm mainmenu is built hardcoded by mainmenu.lua stored in builtin but I'm about to make this configurable too
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00:25 sapier I'm still sorting out some minor glitches e.g. minetest version missing
00:25 sapier and of course those buttons sdzen mentioned aren't supported by now
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00:59 kaeza sapier, I got a basic UI for your factions mod.
01:00 sapier great :-)
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01:01 kaeza I'll work more on it, but for now it shows an interface listing all defined factions and a button to join/leave each one
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01:03 Jordach kaeza, y u so good at modding
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01:04 kaeza Jordach, lol. good? have you seen any of my code yet?
01:04 Jordach what do you mean code?
01:04 kaeza but thanks anyway :)
01:04 Jordach more like black magic
01:04 sapier is only my connection that bad or do others experience this problems today too?
01:04 Jordach not me on this laptop for onc
01:04 Jordach once*
01:05 kaeza sapier, there has been problems all day.
01:05 kaeza I guess freenode is not out of it yet :/
01:06 Jordach hm? what happened?
01:07 kaeza huge netsplit
01:07 Jordach kaeza, well, not for me
01:07 Jordach i havent been here
01:07 kaeza earlier today, there were only 5 users in this channel for about half an hour
01:07 sapier https://github.com/sapier/minetest/tree/next_gen_main_menu
01:07 sapier I'd be glad if someone could help in figuring out the last glitches
01:08 Telek Oh right!
01:08 sapier it's fully operational (except the gamemode buttons)
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01:08 Telek The glsl shader stuff breaks on the intel linux GMAxxx(x) drivers for the PowerVR GPUs.
01:09 Telek I tried the old ubuntu 0.3 release and it'd run fine, but both the Ogre_Samples and minetest crash since it doesn't actually compile glsl shaders or something. Is it possible to have a toggle for the old (no?) shader behavior?
01:09 Telek Erm minetest-git
01:10 sapier are you talking about minetest 0.3?
01:11 Jordach Telek, disable the shaders
01:14 Telek Jordach: It crashed on the opening menu
01:14 Jordach \o/
01:14 Telek And I think I tried manually disabling it in the conf file but it would still throw the shader compiler error and quit.
01:15 * Jordach prefers using Direct3D9
01:16 Jordach 6
01:16 Jordach -6
01:16 Telek How's that help use linux users?
01:16 Jordach because DX9 doesnt have the issue for windows users
01:16 Jordach :
01:16 Jordach :)*
01:16 Telek Also I'm pretty sure there's no PowerVR D3D9 support in the intel drivers?
01:16 Jordach intel supports D3D9 at best
01:17 Jordach win xp+ needs it
01:18 Telek On the GMA 500/600/3600/3650?
01:18 Telek Go look them up, they're the least supported intel gpus ever made.
01:18 Jordach Telek, serves your right for using old hardware
01:18 Telek Go wikipedia GMA3650
01:19 Telek Or the intel community forums.
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01:19 Telek They're currently available in the last batch of Intel Atom netbooks from just before Win8 came out.
01:20 Jordach <Calinou> lol intel atom
01:21 Telek And?
01:21 Telek I bet you there's a few hundred thousand potential minetest users out there with that exact netbook.
01:21 Telek Nevermind ipod/pad, a number of cell phones, and a whole slew of knockoff chinese tablets/laptops.
01:22 Warr1024 Intel atom here
01:22 Telek GMA3150, or SGX based?
01:22 Warr1024 on one netbook.  Got an intel GMA 950 or something on my main gaming rig.
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01:22 Telek Warr1024: GMA950 is slow but fine.
01:23 Warr1024 dunno what graphics my netbook has; it's an atom n450; doesn't that also determine the integrated gpu...?
01:23 Telek The GMA500/600/3600/3650's however are PowerVR SGX cores and had gimped drivers released by intel. They only recently got 3d support, and it doesn't actually appear to support all reported features.
01:25 Warr1024 I've had fairly good results with MT with both chips so far, as long as I don't overdo it on the settings.  Shaders are one thing that really kills my FPS, but most of the other filtering options don't hurt much.
01:27 Telek Warr1024: Windows, or linux on the netbook?
01:27 Telek Aha
01:27 Telek N450 is GMA3150
01:28 Telek It's one of four models that DIDN'T include the PowerVR SGX graphics cores.
01:28 Telek N and D 4xx/5xx
01:28 Warr1024 Telek: OpenBSD on the netbook
01:28 Warr1024 Debian Wheezy on my gaming rig.
01:28 Telek It's basically an upgraded version of the GMA950
01:28 Telek So it's fully supported.
01:29 Warr1024 cool
01:29 Telek The previous and later chips were PowerVR SGX chips and AREN'T well supported.
01:29 Warr1024 "gaming rig" tends to take on a different meaning when 90-some% of your machines are OpenBSD...
01:30 Telek OpenBSD have FB/KMS/drm support yet?
01:30 Warr1024 OpenBSD has DRM, not sure about KMS.  I don't think FB is something they're doing (not outside of X11, anyway).
01:31 * arsdragonfly is compiling minetestserver on his phonr
01:31 arsdragonfly *phone
01:31 arsdragonfly http://imgur.com/BYuT7O7
01:32 Warr1024 arsdragonfly: nice
01:32 Telek Cool. What gpu?
01:32 Warr1024 I was hoping to see a tablet edition out there sometime, but I have no idea how you'd make it playable with just a touchscreen...
01:33 Exio compiling the server is easier than the client
01:33 Telek Seperate keyboard/controller :D
01:33 arsdragonfly Exio :you're right
01:34 arsdragonfly I met some problems about X11 when compiling the client
01:34 Telek Or set up the accelerometer to do forward back left right and then use either the touchscreen or integrated buttons for other controls.
01:34 arsdragonfly Actually ,I used debian kit and ran debian along with android and compiled it on debian
01:34 Exio 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
01:34 Exio arsdragonfly: that makes it even more easy lol
01:35 arsdragonfly lol of course
01:35 Exio (netbook - intel atom n270 - one core (two threads / 1.6ghz))
01:36 Exio Telek: ^
01:36 Exio my super-netbook!
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01:41 arsdragonfly !up 116.225.217.90 30002
01:41 MinetestBot 116.225.217.90:30002 is up (0.431s)
01:41 ShadowBot arsdragonfly: 116.225.217.90:30002 is up (0.372ms)
01:41 arsdragonfly ALL RIGHT!
01:41 arsdragonfly SO THE FIRST EVER MINETEST SERVER ON AN ANDROID PHONE HAS JUST BEEN SET UP!
01:41 arsdragonfly join!
01:42 lordcirth arsdragonfly: lol nice
01:42 arsdragonfly see how it works
01:42 Jordach arsdragonfly, is this hosted from a mobile network
01:42 Jordach or wifi
01:43 arsdragonfly wifi
01:43 * Telek bets somebody has already done it :D
01:43 Jordach you dont want to burn through your contract or payg limit
01:43 Telek Exio: Nice :)
01:43 lordcirth arsdragonfly: joined
01:44 arsdragonfly does it work fine?
01:45 lordcirth arsdragonfly: chunks are loading in a bit slow, but I've seen worse on laptop servers
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01:46 arsdragonfly lol it's just a 800MHz monocore cpu
01:46 Jordach holy fuck
01:46 arsdragonfly probably it has something to do with the network
01:46 Jordach i could compile minetest on a 300mhz 2010 droid tablet
01:46 arsdragonfly cuz I'm from PRC
01:47 Jordach if it works, them in jesus
01:47 Jordach im*
01:47 lordcirth arsdragonfly: I can run singleplayer perfectly with my hexacore downclocked to 800Mhz
01:47 arsdragonfly lol
01:48 lordcirth arsdragonfly: I did it to test my mods' CPU usage.  its probably network
01:48 lordcirth arsdragonfly: according to response time on server cmds, 2 sec+ ping
01:49 arsdragonfly ...That's horrible
01:50 arsdragonfly anyway it just a test
01:50 lordcirth arsdragonfly: yep. thankfully in minetest lag doesn't really matter until you start modifying nodes
01:52 Jordach tell me about it
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02:03 khonkhortisan Does any program display a sphere to show how far someone could go based on the current lag measurement?
02:04 khonkhortisan Now that I mention it, can lua get a lag measurement?
02:05 sapier afaik there's no lua function to access network stack information
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02:14 lordcirth is there a ping server command? /ping didn't work
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02:37 jordan4ibanez lordcirth: There is not, you can create a simple one, very easily though.
02:39 kaeza lol nope
02:40 Exio yay
02:41 Exio added steam, jackd, clementine and firefox to my .xinitrc with their proper rules to be in the place they should be
02:41 jordan4ibanez lordcirth: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Wbczg4aE
02:42 jordan4ibanez In the time it takes for the server to reply with the command, is double the time that it's lagging, give or take.
02:43 kaeza ...or just use /me lagtest
02:44 jordan4ibanez You could, but ping is a much more known thing, people are usually not intelligent enough to do that, and will just usually spam until someone replies.
02:44 tripod Exio: what wm/de
02:45 Exio tripod: dwm
02:45 tripod Exio: ahhh nice
02:45 Exio i was being lazy
02:45 tripod :D
02:45 tripod i'm currently configure zsh/vim
02:45 Exio tripod: i don't touch my vim much
02:45 Exio (and bash user here)
02:46 tripod yeah
02:46 tripod zsh has only a couple features over bash
02:46 tripod also the wm i'm using is i
02:46 tripod i3 atm
02:47 Exio i already have my supercool(tm) .bashrc with a lot of stuff what i don't want to tweak or touch much now, mainly because lazy (same reason for all)
02:49 jordan4ibanez kaeza: http://jordan4ibanez.weebly.com/blog.html
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02:51 lordcirth jordan4ibanez: cool, thanks.
02:51 jordan4ibanez lordcirth: No problem.
02:52 kaeza jordan4ibanez, interesting...
02:54 lordcirth exactly every other time I load my test world, minetest seg faults.
02:54 jordan4ibanez lordcirth: Are you using Github/Latest?
02:55 lordcirth jordan4ibanez: yes
02:55 jordan4ibanez Same. I get doublelink errors.
02:55 lordcirth jordan4ibanez: doublelink ?
02:55 Exio double free
02:55 Exio i guess
02:56 lordcirth Exio: do you mean the same memory address is being freed twice?
02:57 jordan4ibanez I can't open a world more than once to show the error, but when I open a world more than once, I get a segmentation fault.
02:57 Exio yep
02:57 Exio i just say because doublelink doesn't seems very "legit"
02:58 lordcirth I get no such output, just "Segmentation fault". are you running with debug symbols or something?
03:00 lordcirth jordan4ibanez: ^
03:01 jordan4ibanez Oh, I'm getting segmentation faults all over the place, I guess I only get debug output when the game crashes really badly.
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03:04 jordan4ibanez Oh, sand is now desert sand, and white sand, is normal sand. Neat.
03:04 jordan4ibanez Better aesthetic compared to old desert sand, since it was over-bright.
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03:07 jordan4ibanez Anistropic filtering should be called, "Nintendo64 Mode".
03:13 jordan4ibanez Exio: Yes, it is a doublelink error.
03:13 Exio i have no fucking idea then
03:13 Exio :D
03:13 jordan4ibanez Maybe it has to do with the 313 Nvidia driver.
03:14 jordan4ibanez Oh I meant doublefree not doublelink.
03:14 jordan4ibanez Doesn't doublefree errors have to do with the video card driver?
03:15 Exio nah
03:15 Exio programming errors
03:16 Telek I think it may be the driver.
03:16 * Telek ran into some problems with it when he tried it with his GeForce 6150 IGP before throwing in the towel and installing a Radeon discrete card.
03:17 Telek FBO mode was causing garbage on Ogre's Samples, and random segfaults in some of the demos.
03:17 * Telek might've been having trouble with minetest as well but it's been a month or two now.
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03:45 kahrl lordcirth: pretty sure I know what the segfault bug is, it is in GUIChatConsole::GUIChatConsole()
03:46 kahrl it was introduced with commit e5781b5e34 I think
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03:56 Telek Chat has been broken for months. 0.4.4 or 0.4.5 at least?
03:56 Telek Or did it get rebroken?
04:02 jordan4ibanez Why does everything the player digs and punches get logged into the terminal? Wouldn't it be more efficient to stop griefers/spammers to actually not have that verbose?
04:03 jordan4ibanez So that mods which protect areas have the chance to give warnings, so that people won't just think the warnings are part of the output.
04:05 kahrl Telek: not sure what you mean, but the thing I mean crashes when you join a second world in one minetest process
04:05 kahrl regardless of whether you use chat or not
04:06 Telek Yeah my bad. Old segfault was if you typed too long of a line in the chat box.
04:14 kahrl I think that's been there as long as the chat console existed
04:14 * kahrl is to blame :(
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04:17 NakedFury this is the water I would love for minetest: http://i.minus.com/iA37k5AJYw2BK.gif
04:29 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Fix double free in createExtrudedMesh, reported by ptitSeb 2c09e8a84c 2013-05-11T21:28:33-07:00 http://git.io/dNpNOQ
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05:23 jordan4ibanez I saw the rolling back of my posts. I did that for a reason. I would like to host them on my own website.
05:24 jordan4ibanez I wanted to direct my sig to my website, but since I am banned, I cannot.
05:29 jordan4ibanez I would actually like my user on Minetest Forum deleted.
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06:36 arsdragonfly sfan5 :your patch solved the problem of announcing servers
06:36 arsdragonfly sfan5 : but I can't shut down servers with ctrl+c since then
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07:57 zRokh hi
07:57 kaeza hey
07:58 kaeza bye
07:58 kaeza :?
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08:32 markveidemanis hi
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08:36 john_minetest hi markveidemanis
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08:38 markveidemanis Im testing some mods on my server when i finish updating, wanna test?
08:39 markveidemanis okay done
08:39 markveidemanis 86.158.246.86
08:40 markveidemanis how do i set up remote media
08:46 markveidemanis http://pastebin.com/4H1dhPBM
08:46 markveidemanis My mods
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09:17 LunaVorax Hi!
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09:34 VanessaE hi all
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09:44 Calinou hi
09:44 VanessaE guess the network was...less than stable overnight
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10:03 arsdragonfly !up 116.225.217.90 30002
10:03 ShadowBot arsdragonfly: 116.225.217.90:30002 is up (0.458ms)
10:03 MinetestBot 116.225.217.90:30002 is up (0.543s)
10:04 arsdragonfly ShadowBot is so much faster looool
10:08 arsdragonfly >1000x
10:22 * Calinou is torrenting xubuntu 13.04 amd64 iso
10:22 Calinou been a long time I didn't torrent something \o/
10:22 Calinou 432KB/s, not bad :P
10:23 * kaeza has 894525 lollipops!
10:23 kaeza :D
10:24 kaeza and a Lv6 Sword of Flames :D
10:24 Calinou 696k here
10:24 Calinou level 8 sword of life
10:24 kaeza still can't beat the dragon :(
10:25 kaeza will have to wait a bit more
10:25 Calinou to beat the dragon, no sword will help you
10:25 Calinou brew invunerability potions, buy scrolls (teleport ones)
10:25 Calinou once you are in dragon room:
10:25 Calinou drink invulnerability potion once you're near the dragon
10:25 Calinou when it ends: use teleport scroll
10:25 Calinou use it twice so that the potion cooldown is finished
10:26 Calinou then use invulnerability again
10:26 Calinou and so on :P
10:26 kaeza still not enuff HP. it takes too long to recover from using an invulnerability potn
10:26 Calinou that's why you use two teleport scrolls
10:26 * Calinou has 634hp
10:26 kaeza 385 :(
10:27 Calinou ate 1m candies
10:27 kaeza this game is stupid... but very addictive
10:27 kaeza I have eaten 221205 candies
10:28 markveidemanis hi
10:30 kaeza hey markv
10:30 VanessaE you are both now diabetic and have horrible stomache aches
10:30 VanessaE :)
10:30 kaeza VanessaE, JOIN US :D
10:30 VanessaE no. :)
10:30 kaeza :(
10:30 * kaeza is too busy eating candies to discuss
10:30 Calinou meh, I'm downloading through free.fr now
10:30 Calinou it is actually faster :P
10:32 VanessaE bbl
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10:38 kahrl kaeza: use a seed to let the potion cooldown run out
10:39 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:39 Calinou that works too, yeah
10:39 kahrl (if you don't want to use multiple teleport scrolls)
10:39 Calinou never thought about it :P
10:39 kaeza hmm
10:39 Calinou scrolls aren't really expensive anyway :P
10:39 arsdragonfly h
10:39 arsdragonfly i
10:40 Calinou inb4 everyone writes one character per line
10:40 kahrl they can be annoying to get it you get the wrong scrolls
10:41 markveidemanis join me 86.158.246.86
10:47 kaeza YAY
10:47 * kaeza beat the dragon
10:49 kaeza used 8 major healing potns, 5 inv potns, and like 24 TP scrolls :D
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10:50 markveidemanis shit
10:51 markveidemanis Can someone upload stationary_npc?
10:51 john_minetest kaeza: What are you playing?
10:51 john_minetest Skyrim?
10:52 kaeza http://candies.aniwey.net/
10:52 john_minetest ...
10:52 Calinou :D
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10:58 Issa hello
10:58 Issa how are there
10:59 Issa where i get TNT for minetest please ?
11:00 Calinou there is no TNT by default
11:00 Calinou install a TNT mod
11:00 Issa ok
11:00 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2902
11:00 PilzAdam kaeza, wtf am I playing right now?
11:01 Issa thanks i m tring now :)
11:03 kaeza PilzAdam, Candy Box
11:03 kaeza ?
11:03 markveidemanis Is there a mod like redpower computers?
11:03 markveidemanis Have a computer, wire it up and play
11:03 PilzAdam kaeza, I first thought it is some kind of endless counter
11:04 markveidemanis maybe the terminal alternative to the luacontroller
11:04 kaeza hah me too.
11:04 * kaeza learned to not judge a book by it's cover... again
11:05 markveidemanis I have some mod requests to someone who is willing to listen
11:05 kaeza markveidemanis, no one can listen here
11:05 kaeza this is a TEXT chat
11:05 PilzAdam kaeza, this game is so epic
11:05 Issa markveidemanis, if want to see a mod the best result for u :
11:05 Issa is do it yourself
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11:06 markveidemanis I want to know if i can make a block that makes a sound and loops it until it stops receiving mesecon signal
11:06 markveidemanis and a computer that is basically a lua cinsole
11:06 PilzAdam kaeza, I stay in the forest until my farm produces 1 lp/sec.
11:07 markveidemanis not luacontroller in that it can print to that console instead of the server window
11:07 sdzen so! when are we going to slap the name minetest 0.4.7 on this beast?
11:07 sdzen out or curiousity
11:08 sdzen after all there has been many changes
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11:22 john_minetest the last question of the frog is difficult
11:22 jordach-lappy Calinou: can you remove two of my topics?
11:23 jordach-lappy the wireless gliched and made three identical posts
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11:24 Calinou k
11:24 * Calinou is preparing for upgrading to 13.04 :>
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11:25 Issa calinou sorry but how do TNT
11:26 Issa need coal and gravel but what order ?
11:26 jordach-lappy Calinou ends up with Unity and Amazon search lens
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11:29 Calinou jordach-lappy: I use xubuntu :P
11:30 PilzAdam s/x/k
11:30 kaeza s:s/x/k:s/x/k/:
11:31 jordach-lappy and theres PA saying KDE is better
11:31 jordach-lappy PilzAdam: its a clone of the Windows 7 UI
11:31 PilzAdam its just 110% configureable
11:31 jordach-lappy Calinou, PilzAdam; found out why i cant access omploader
11:32 jordach-lappy avast blocks the site for windows users
11:32 jordach-lappy so anyone with it wont get the mods
11:32 jordach-lappy i got the same issue as LM
11:32 * Calinou uses dropbox
11:33 * Calinou is creating xubuntu 13.04 USB drive
11:33 jordach-lappy http://i.imgur.com/FIjGO7c.png
11:33 jordach-lappy proof
11:33 Calinou ompldr.org is often considered as an harmful site
11:33 Calinou that's not new
11:33 Calinou since it's a 4channer lair :P
11:33 jordach-lappy Calinou: it seems to be more active than before
11:34 Calinou -1 for google chrome
11:34 jordach-lappy Calinou: i have firefox in the background#
11:34 jordach-lappy just using chrome for adblock
11:34 Calinou chromium is better
11:34 Calinou lol "bin me"
11:35 iqualfragile jordach-lappy: no, its not a clone, its more like a mix of 3 different de
11:35 iqualfragile you have the searc and execute view
11:36 iqualfragile the classical desktop-icons
11:36 iqualfragile and the widgets
11:36 iqualfragile you know that you can install addblock for firefox?
11:37 iqualfragile and its even better as you can allow it to show text-based advertisment
11:37 iqualfragile wich will make the ad industry use those more often
11:38 Calinou lol
11:38 Calinou well, i'll be back in about 40 minutes
11:38 Calinou installing 13.04
11:48 Issa please someon can explein me this --> Craft gunpowder by placing coal and gravel in thsorry  TNT. To craft TNT
11:48 Issa surround gunpowder with 4 wood in a + shape.
11:49 Issa i have gravel and coal
11:49 Issa but powder come
11:50 Issa i have this --> http://hpics.li/0d3b979
11:54 RealBadAngel https://github.com/PilzAdam/TNT/blob/master/init.lua#L238
11:58 RealBadAngel Issa, check the recipes again ^^
12:03 Issa RealBadAngel, i found this --> http://minetestmodcenter.wikia.com/wiki/File:Tnt_craft_mesetint.png
12:03 Issa but not working too
12:04 RealBadAngel which TNT mod are you using?
12:04 Issa https://github.com/PilzAdam/TNT
12:06 RealBadAngel so why you are lookin for crafting recipes from another mod??
12:06 RealBadAngel https://github.com/PilzAdam/TNT/blob/master/init.lua#L238
12:07 RealBadAngel here are your crafting recipes
12:07 RealBadAngel 1 piece of gravel, 1 piece of coal
12:07 RealBadAngel not 6 as you shown on the screenshot
12:07 RealBadAngel its shapeless recipe
12:07 Issa http://hpics.li/c629aa8
12:07 Issa maybe the mod is not loaded onmy minetest game
12:08 RealBadAngel where have you put it?
12:09 Issa minetest-0.4.6-2\mods\minetest\TNT-master
12:10 Issa RealBadAngel,  http://hpics.li/88f6edc
12:11 RealBadAngel rename mod folder from "TNT-master" to "tnt"
12:13 RealBadAngel and run game again
12:15 Issa cool work now i have gunpoweder
12:16 Issa now block of tntn
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12:20 Issa i understand now how the code workds
12:20 Issa thanls RealBadAngel
12:20 RealBadAngel no problemo
12:24 Issa RealBadAngel, i do a reminber place for me i the original post :
12:24 Issa http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=89760#p89760
12:25 Issa last things do u think u have better skin for the tnt ?
12:25 Issa mod ?
12:28 Zeg9 This one is already great, just needs a bit more random explosions and less lag when you make a tnt cluster.
12:29 john_minetest Lp planted : 1337
12:29 john_minetest | Production : 7 lp/sec
12:29 RealBadAngel http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5427
12:29 Zeg9 lp?
12:29 RealBadAngel you shall ask ashenk69 to make textures for tnt
12:30 john_minetest Zeg9: Lollipops
12:30 RealBadAngel shall not be that hard since original texture pack already have textures for tnt
12:30 john_minetest http://candies.aniwey.net
12:30 john_minetest Zeg9^
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12:31 Zeg9 john_minetest, I was bored, but now it is even worse...
12:31 calinou hello from xubuntu 13.04
12:31 * calinou is still using nouveau
12:31 * calinou runs minetest
12:31 john_minetest Zeg9: Just wait. The games becomes great after some time.
12:31 calinou crashed \o/
12:32 john_minetest 22 lp/sec
12:32 calinou I have 100 lp /sec
12:32 calinou max legit without horn of plenty
12:32 calinou horn of plenty lets you go up to 300lp/s
12:33 Zeg9 The candy merchant...
12:33 calinou nouveau supports antialiasing now? that's new
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12:34 calinou 47 FPS on sauerbraten with shaders
12:34 calinou without, 72
12:34 calinou not bad for a card that runs at its 2D freq
12:36 * Zeg9 just read about the ompldr problem...
12:37 calinou WTF
12:37 calinou "sensors" returns temeprature of my graphics card when using nouveau
12:38 calinou nouveau-pci-0100
12:38 calinou Adapter: PCI adapter
12:38 calinou temp1:        +35.0°C  (high = +95.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
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12:59 john_minetest m( My brother did it again. One new unwanted program and a virus. Why can't he click on the right links and READ WHAT THE CHECKBOX SAYS?!?
13:02 markveidemanis hows candy goin?
13:03 * Zeg9 shouldn't have done "eat all candies"
13:04 PilzAdam "Production : 100 lp/sec" can it get higher?
13:04 enchilado Haha
13:05 enchilado I love how people in like every channel I'm in are playing the candy game
13:08 sfan5 :D
13:09 Zeg9 If only my bro didn't want to play minetest lol
13:09 Zeg9 22 lp/hour
13:12 sfan5 I'm sorry, we don't
13:12 sfan5 have enough
13:12 sfan5 lollipops in stock
13:12 sfan5 to sell you ten of
13:12 sfan5 them. We currently
13:12 sfan5 have 139 lollipops
13:12 sfan5 in stock.
13:12 sfan5 ^ wat?
13:12 sfan5 and woopps
13:12 sfan5 *woops
13:13 * PilzAdam beat the whale
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13:17 * sfan5 also beat the whale
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13:19 * enchilado is way past the whale :(
13:19 * PilzAdam has a Sword of Flames Level 3
13:19 Zeg9 How the heck a candy merchant could sell swords ^^
13:21 * Zeg9 still wonders what you're supposed to do after the mount gobblin
13:22 lordcirth john_minetest: just give your brother Linux already
13:23 PilzAdam awww, almost finished the castle entrance
13:24 PilzAdam wait, I have finished it \o/
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13:31 kaeza " Thanks for buyin'! Here's your lollipop flavor lollipop.  " O.o
13:31 PilzAdam "what is the only thing to go beyond the limits of our universe?" :-(
13:32 kaeza can't get past that?
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13:32 kaeza simple is the answer
13:33 PilzAdam *facepalm*
13:39 john_minetest lordcirth: He won't understand linux. Like he doesn't understand that he should uncheck the "Give me a toolbar that is useless but that will never go away anymore" box in the installer.
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13:41 * Calinou fixed their nvidia driver by removing xorg.conf
13:41 Calinou no fan control for me :(
13:43 Zeg9 xorg.conf, this still exists?
13:43 Calinou yes and no
13:43 Calinou to enable CoolBits, you need to use xorg.conf :P
13:44 Calinou but you can use nvidia driver without xorg.conf just fine :P
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13:54 enchilado PilzAdam: heh, read the question again
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13:55 Jordach PilzAdam, good news
13:59 Jordach my brother who is a long time Call of Duty nut, now plays BF3
14:09 PilzAdam enchilado, the faceplam was because I found the solution
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14:14 enchilado PilzAdam: ah.
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14:23 lordcirth john_minetest: Have you tried Mint? Its a lot easier than Windows
14:24 john_minetest lordcirth: My brother is only playing games. I bet he will also get viruses on wine.
14:24 Calinou viruses on wine are way less offensive than on windows :P
14:25 Zeg9 Except if he uses internet explorer under wine (the real IE, not the wine one which uses gecko)
14:25 Calinou since when the real IE works under wine?
14:26 Zeg9 There was a script to do it
14:26 Calinou anyway: /me fully migrated to his SSD
14:26 Calinou no more HDD noise and vibrations!
14:26 lordcirth Calinou: noise was the main reason you got an SSD?
14:26 Calinou no
14:27 Calinou but it's still an upside of SSDs
14:27 lordcirth Calinou: meh I had 3 HDDs in this case a while ago, couldn't hear them
14:28 Calinou 5400rpm ones? :phoronix rolleyes:
14:28 Calinou even 5400rpm ones make noise ;)
14:28 Calinou noise isn't strictly additive
14:29 Calinou even if your graphics card/CPU fan makes more noise, not having an HDD will make the whole thing quieter
14:29 Calinou even though you will not see that on dB
14:36 * Calinou installed wine and is playing trackmania
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15:00 john_minetest 17 servers in the list, 17 people online.
15:05 Zeg9 "   This acid rain
15:05 Zeg9 scroll will
15:05 Zeg9 instantly damage
15:05 Zeg9 everyone in the
15:05 Zeg9 whole land
15:05 Zeg9 was kicked by ShadowBot: message flood detected
15:05 markveidemanis Mari, lordcirth, bas080, AlexSmallCZ, 1452, join
15:05 markveidemanis lol
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15:05 Zeg9 oh, fail
15:06 markveidemanis go to #mtmt and spam
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15:24 Jordach hey VanessaE_
15:24 Jordach or VanessaE
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15:27 Jordach hurr durr
15:27 Jordach net split
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15:31 markveidemanis Join my server
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15:36 ShadowNinja Hmmm, ShadowBot responded when MinetestBot was around.
15:37 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: channel lobotomy list
15:37 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: I'm not currently lobotomized in any channels that you're in.
15:37 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: channel lobotomy add
15:37 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded.
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16:00 * PilzAdam beat the dragon!
16:00 * sfan5 also did 10 mins ago
16:01 PilzAdam can you get more things than amulet and horn in the castle?
16:01 * PilzAdam doesnt wanna do it again...
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16:09 john_minetest Yay! Gronkh 1000 is out!!!
16:10 PilzAdam WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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16:12 * Calinou frags PilzAdam using minstanex
16:12 PilzAdam Calinou, STFU when Gronkh speaks!
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16:15 * Zeg9 facepalms too when he found the stupid answer too the frog's answer to the question...
16:16 Zeg9 the frog's question*
16:19 sokomine hi
16:21 Zeg9 Hi
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16:31 Calinou it'd be nice if we had this in minetest: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1618924-16x-151-connected-textures-v151-for-minecraft-v15/
16:31 Calinou (connected texture support)
16:31 Calinou Zeg9: haha
16:32 Calinou I googled for the last one :P
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16:42 hmmmm except..... we do have support for that
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16:48 lordcirth hmmmm: on_construct, check for similar nodes, change textures?
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16:51 john_minetest Wow, Gronkh's 1000th minecraft Let's play...
16:51 john_minetest epic
16:51 * PilzAdam just finished
16:51 PilzAdam now back to my candy box
16:55 jojoa1997 hi guys
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17:06 sokomine candy box?
17:06 * sokomine looks into the box
17:06 sokomine how do i increse the font size? there seems to be an option in minetest.conf, but it does not seem to have any effect?
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17:07 PilzAdam it only works with TTF
17:10 sokomine how do i use a ttf font then?
17:10 sokomine the font vanessae provided was ok...it just lead to problems when the larger font size was too large for inscriptions on buttons
17:12 PilzAdam you have to compile minetest with TTF support enabled
17:15 sokomine i've copied textures/all/fontdejavusansmono.png and fontlucida.png  those are the ones i'm mostly using because they're larger. iirc they're not ttf. don't know if i compiled mt with ttf support...
17:17 PilzAdam it always uses TTF if you have compiled with it enabled
17:26 sokomine how can i check if i did?
17:26 sokomine does cmake keep a logfile?
17:27 PilzAdam CMakeCache.txt
17:28 sokomine hm. no hint of either TTF enabled or disabled
17:29 PilzAdam cmake . -LH | grep FREETYPE
17:29 PilzAdam oO I just realized that you can increase your HP when eating candies
17:31 sokomine thanks. seems it's disabled. you don't by any chance know the package names for debian?
17:31 sokomine candies are deliscious :-)
17:32 PilzAdam libfreetype6 and libfreetype6-dev for ubuntu
17:33 sokomine fine. same here it seems. only that i didn't have the dev version installed. ok. anything else i might have missed?
17:33 sokomine luajit...would not make much sense for (mostly) client, would it?
17:34 PilzAdam no, it only makes sense for servers
17:39 Calinou hmmmm: glasslike_framed can't do that
17:39 Calinou it's meant for transparent stuff and uses 3D stuff
17:39 Calinou not needed for just connected textures
17:39 Calinou look at the images on that topic
17:39 Calinou you need to provide 20 textures or so for one connected block
17:39 sokomine hmpf. now i have to select one? just incresing the size with font_size and mono_font_size did not help
17:40 sokomine what are connected textures good for?
17:43 VanessaE_ while it is meant for it, it is possible to use the framed glasslike draw type to approximate what that MC mod can do
17:43 VanessaE_ it isn't*
17:43 VanessaE_ while it isn't* meant for it, I mean.
17:43 lordcirth sokomine: makes blocks of the same type tile better, while keeping edge textures for borders with other blocks. looks better
17:44 VanessaE_ it would only require a small mod and two textures per node, but it can only be used on nodes that have the same texture on all sides.
17:45 sokomine ah, ok. could be intresting for some blocks
17:45 VanessaE_ *nod*
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17:52 VanessaE_ is he live?
17:52 * VanessaE_ pokes webdesigner97
17:53 VanessaE_ nope.
17:55 Calinou 12 seconds? not much to be alive
17:57 VanessaE_ I dunno why he does that
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18:13 sokomine maybe network problems
18:13 VanessaE_ it happens nearly every time he signs on
18:13 Zeg9 PilzAdam thanks for the tip about candies :P
18:13 Zeg9 now I can try again the castle entrance...
18:14 * PilzAdam has beaten the dragon with 100 HP
18:15 Zeg9 How many potions/scrolls
18:15 PilzAdam Im currently getting tons of candies by doing the entrance over and over again with max 6 HP damage at the end
18:16 Zeg9 So sad we can't go over 100 lp/sec
18:17 Calinou Zeg9: tip, the fireball at castle entrance makes you go back at the beginning of the map
18:17 Calinou try using teleport scrolls
18:17 Zeg9 I just did it anyway
18:21 Zeg9 Waiting time is annoying
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18:24 sokomine which game are you playing?
18:24 PilzAdam the candy game
18:27 * PilzAdam beat the dragon again!
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18:30 sokomine hm :-) candy and dragons? didn't know they eat candy. but who knows :-)
18:30 Zeg9 http://candies.aniwey.net
18:30 PilzAdam http://candies.aniwey.net/
18:31 Zeg9 sokomine, join us ! (and say bye to your real life lol)
18:31 PilzAdam take mine! it has a extra slash
18:31 * Zeg9 agrees.
18:31 Zeg9 Mine isn't legal.
18:32 * PilzAdam has 386 HP now
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18:34 Zeg9 Gotta go, bye
18:37 john_minetest PilzAdam: How to get HP?
18:38 PilzAdam I had to find it out myself too
18:38 john_minetest now i know
18:39 sokomine ,-)
18:42 john_minetest I first thought this function was only wasted...
18:42 PilzAdam someone tested putting many candies on the ground?
18:42 PilzAdam I guess _that_ is waste
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18:44 john_minetest maybe after 10000 candies on the floor you will become invincible.
18:44 john_minetest Btw, it is written in JS. So you can simply look it up ;)
18:45 PilzAdam meh
18:45 PilzAdam thats cheating
18:46 Calinou no, check the code, john_minetest
18:47 Calinou after 140 candies, the smiley shown after "you thrown x candies" stops changing, that's all
18:47 iqualfragile it stops after 100 candies
18:48 iqualfragile PilzAdam: no, its not, lateron you can convert your lolipops back to candy and increase your candy income
18:48 iqualfragile so you have shitloads of candies
18:48 iqualfragile im stuck at the last fight
18:48 john_minetest I'm stuck at the dragon
18:48 Calinou no, it's the other way around
18:49 Calinou john_minetest, brew 10 or so invulnearbility potions
18:49 Calinou buy lots of scrolls so that you have 15 teleport scrolls
18:49 Calinou 1) use potion before touching dragon
18:49 Calinou when it finishes, use teleport scroll twice
18:49 Calinou rinse and repeat
18:49 john_minetest 2000 candies...
18:49 john_minetest lollipops would be easier
18:50 Calinou I have 15 candies/sec :P
18:50 Calinou get "faster candies" things from the sorceress
18:51 PilzAdam Calinou, you need way less teleport scrolls if you use seeds
18:52 PilzAdam I used like 2 seeds, 3 invulnearbility potions and 2 teleports
18:52 markveidemanis Can someone make me a mod?
18:52 markveidemanis An addon to eigilines
18:53 markveidemanis Digilines
18:53 john_minetest markveidemanis: Learn lua.
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18:53 markveidemanis Enter the channel in the setup, it has a single-line entry and it sends the entered line along the channel entered
18:53 lordcirth markveidemanis: I will make that soon
18:54 markveidemanis Today?
18:54 markveidemanis Plz add repo on GitHub
18:54 lordcirth markveidemanis: but if you're in a hurry, go ahead and make it yourself. I will accept a pull request to digipad
18:55 lordcirth markveidemanis: It will be in digipad repo, I have enough repos already
18:55 markveidemanis I cant make anything...
18:56 Calinou you haven't even tried
18:56 kahrl markveidemanis: I can make it today if you pay me
18:56 Calinou RMS approves ^
18:57 john_minetest I make it for 50% less than kahrl.
18:57 john_minetest ;)
18:57 * Calinou makes it for 200% more than kahrl
18:57 Calinou buuut, I do it on a mac
18:57 Calinou so my work is more beautiful
18:57 * Calinou needs candies!
18:58 john_minetest A mac justifies the price.
18:59 PilzAdam "Candies, more candies" is quite useless
19:01 Calinou yeah
19:01 Calinou but the sorceress generates them on a mac!
19:02 lordcirth markveidemanis: If you put a bitcoin bounty on it, I can have it done in a few hours
19:02 markveidemanis What do you mean
19:03 markveidemanis How do i turn lollies to candy?
19:03 PilzAdam what level are you?
19:03 markveidemanis lordcirth: you can have special privs on my server then
19:03 PilzAdam *wich quest
19:03 markveidemanis level?
19:03 markveidemanis Castles enterance
19:04 PilzAdam then you cant
19:04 markveidemanis lordcirth: minetest.org:30010
19:05 Calinou markveidemanis, you can turn candy to lollies, but not the inverse
19:05 Calinou after finishing "castle entrance", iirc
19:06 markveidemanis I cant pass that!!!
19:06 Calinou lol, everyone is playing candy box since casimir (and me to some extent) advertised it
19:06 markveidemanis HELP!
19:06 kahrl the sorceress turns lollipops into candies
19:06 Calinou markveidemanis, teleport scrolls are your friend
19:06 kahrl not very efficient though :P
19:06 Calinou doesn't count
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19:06 Calinou faster candies is much more worthwhile
19:06 markveidemanis i have 9, idk what they do
19:06 sapier https://github.com/sapier/minetest/commits/next_gen_main_menu plz test it's now feature complete
19:06 sapier including documentation ;-)
19:07 Calinou markveidemanis, they teleport you to the beginning of the room
19:07 Calinou so that the fireball doesn't hit you
19:07 Calinou because fireball hitting you = brings you to the start of the level
19:07 kahrl sapier, nice
19:07 PilzAdam sapier, does it already include this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/722 ?
19:08 sapier thx ... it's been the only option ... in discussion about menu changes there have been so many conflicting requirements it's been impossible to satisfy everything wit ONE menu ;-)
19:09 sapier no but it's a one line change
19:09 sapier more interesting what exactly is game filter supposed to do?
19:10 PilzAdam 1) using the textures from the game 2) filter worlds
19:11 sapier ok so it's only partly in textures yes world tab filter no
19:12 sapier i'll fix it ... not a big deal .. plz find out what else is missing
19:12 sapier somebody with curl might be interesting as I can't test curl support
19:14 markveidemanis Who wants to make something awesome
19:14 markveidemanis My server is up
19:16 Calinou no.
19:24 sapier PilzAdam now gamefilter is implemented too singleplayer tab only am I correct?
19:24 RealBadAngel sapier, just downloaded and built your branch, but its impossible to play anything with it
19:24 PilzAdam yes
19:24 sapier can you post an error message rba?
19:25 RealBadAngel cannot create world neither connect to any server
19:25 RealBadAngel a sec
19:25 sapier if menu fails for some reason this happens
19:25 sapier there should be an error message on console
19:25 RealBadAngel when tryin to create new world: Invalid game index
19:26 sapier can you post the error message?
19:26 RealBadAngel when tryin to connect to any server address is not copied and says something: no address blah blah, nothing to do
19:26 RealBadAngel i can see only onscreen messages
19:27 sapier you're using curl based version?
19:27 RealBadAngel no, just dl'ed your branch, compiled and wanted to try
19:27 sapier strange ... I'll have a look if I pushed everything
19:29 sapier I guess you use linux rba?
19:29 RealBadAngel yup
19:29 Calinou debian rusty :3
19:30 RealBadAngel xubuntu 12.04 since a few days ;)
19:30 Calinou heh
19:30 Calinou xubuntu 13.04 since today :P
19:30 n4x debian wheezy got released, with gnome3
19:30 sapier no matter it should work if it's not working I need to fix it
19:30 RealBadAngel i cannot because of ati drivers
19:30 n4x and rba moves to xubuntu
19:30 n4x k
19:30 Calinou n4x, gnome 3? "No."
19:31 RealBadAngel so 12.04 till i buy new video card
19:31 sapier btw does someone volonteer to cleanup the formspec mess ? :-)
19:31 Calinou nouveau runs sauerbraten at 24 FPS. on nvidia, same settings, 600 FPS or so
19:31 Calinou ._.
19:31 n4x so, for me that would be, lemme guess
19:31 Calinou however, there are no crashes, you can read graphic card temps with "sensors" directly (in nvidia, you need to go in nvidia-settings)
19:32 n4x Calinou: nvidia-smi
19:32 Calinou that too
19:32 Calinou but it is still less "direct" than just lm-sensors
19:32 n4x yep
19:32 n4x and outside that,it works pretty well for everything-not-gaming
19:32 Calinou also, I can't use nvidia-xconfig without getting black screen :(
19:32 Calinou so I can't enable fan control
19:32 Calinou but, why would you buy a dedicated card for not-gaming, that is the question :P
19:32 n4x aww
19:33 sapier I'm pretty happy with debian wheezy ... not as much crapware as in ubuntu ... multimonitorsupport is (still) working ... and it's quite stable
19:33 Calinou it's silly that nvidia doesn't enable fan control by default
19:33 Calinou it does no harm and users aren't stupid
19:33 Calinou multimonitor works here too
19:33 Calinou but I almost never use multiscreen
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19:34 Calinou hi Jordach
19:34 n4x Calinou: my gt 610 was ... ehm, 350 ARS (like 35 or 30 EUR iirc) and there was some mobos with "integrated" nvidia gpus (not very new mobs but :P)
19:34 Jordach hey
19:34 Calinou lol, G610
19:34 sapier RealBadAngel I'm sorry I need more information about your problem as I can't reproduce it
19:34 Calinou well, that graphics card is useful to some extent, unlike 620/630/640
19:34 n4x igp performance!
19:34 Calinou (for more screens)
19:34 sapier multimonitor works in ubuntu only if all your screens are attached to same graphics card
19:35 n4x Calinou: why not? what's up with 620/630/640?
19:35 Calinou nvidia supports SLI on linux fine, normally
19:35 Calinou n4x, useless
19:35 Calinou when you have the 650, 650ti or better, 660
19:35 Calinou less regret when buying these cards
19:35 n4x ah
19:35 Calinou also, 620 and 630 are fermi rebrands
19:36 sapier wait :-) I can reproduce it
19:36 n4x i know the low-end nvidia gpus are rebrands :P
19:36 n4x but i bought this gpu for using it like an igp - as you know i don't have one :P
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19:39 RealBadAngel sapier, http://pastebin.com/iG9w6gBu
19:39 RealBadAngel i can see only this, then on screen: Error: invalid game index
19:40 sapier ok I've managed to reproduce .. I guess this only happens if theres exactly one game
19:40 RealBadAngel minimal here only
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19:43 sapier RealBadAngel has been a of by one error ... right next to another one fixed and pushed it
19:44 RealBadAngel building again
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19:57 Jordach dun dun durr
20:00 RealBadAngel sapier, creating world works now
20:00 sapier I hope this is not the only thing working ;-)
20:00 RealBadAngel next thing: when you click server on fav list, its adress shall be copied down below to adress box
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20:00 RealBadAngel it isnt
20:01 sapier puhh ... not as easy to fix as last one
20:02 RealBadAngel when you write it here, you can connect.
20:02 RealBadAngel its just pickin from list doesnt work at all
20:02 sapier doubleclick on list too?
20:03 RealBadAngel will check in a while, connecting to VanessaE server atm
20:03 sapier ok thx plz post everything you find out
20:04 jordan4ibanez Sfan5: http://jordan4ibanez.weebly.com/cool-music.html :D
20:05 * VanessaE_ peeks in
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20:12 jordan4ibanez Too many videos crashes flash. Interesting.
20:13 jordan4ibanez Why does youtube try to load up some of the video when it's just idle? That doesn't make sense.
20:13 PilzAdam rightclick -> stop download
20:14 jordan4ibanez No, I mean, when it first loads up in preview.
20:15 jordan4ibanez Even when you refresh the page, the old data is kept in the ram. D:
20:16 * sfan5 likes jordan4ibanez taste of dubstep
20:16 RealBadAngel sapier, double, triple etc - same effect ;)
20:16 * jordan4ibanez highfives sfan5. o.
20:16 jordan4ibanez o/*
20:17 sapier whats "same"? ;-)
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20:28 VanessaE bbl
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20:34 * john_minetest sometimes wants to go into his computer and beat up all this crappy stuff like crashing JS applications, buggy flash, lagging data packages and random OS malfunctions.
20:35 * Calinou already went into his computer today to unplug an HDD and remove then replace a RAM stick
20:35 Calinou after booting, I saw a kernel panic or something about swap
20:35 Calinou so I opened my case, removed the RAM stick then put it back. don't know why.
20:35 Calinou then it worked.
20:36 * PilzAdam has over 600 HP now
20:37 * jordan4ibanez didn't know PilzAdam had an engine.
20:37 Calinou 634 HP :P
20:38 Calinou even though I have a full tower case and only have 4 SATA on my PSU, it's still a PITA to sort the cables around
20:38 * Calinou should have bought a modular PSU
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20:51 sapier RealBadAngel textlist change event should work now
20:54 * PilzAdam has eaten over a million candies
20:55 sapier hope you don't get sick pilzadam ;-)
20:56 PilzAdam Calinou, 636 HP now :-p
20:57 Calinou aw
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21:04 StarBlessed Good morning peoples!  :)
21:06 PilzAdam hi
21:07 StarBlessed Hey Adam.  Hows things been bro?
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21:09 PilzAdam I have just eaten 1114180 candies
21:10 OldCoder Oh my
21:10 OldCoder That is a moderate amount of sugar
21:10 StarBlessed LMAO!  Have you been playing CostumeQuest?
21:10 PilzAdam that gave me the power to beat a dragon several times
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21:12 StarBlessed I must admit, even Im downloading Brutal Legend
21:16 sfan5 good night everyone
21:17 StarBlessed See ya sfan5
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21:32 * PilzAdam beat the devil!
21:40 StarBlessed Congratulations Adam.  lol
21:40 iqualfragile PilzAdam: devil is no problem
21:40 iqualfragile but try beating the programmen…
21:40 iqualfragile *programmer
21:41 PilzAdam I cant beat myself...
21:44 StarBlessed That sounded so wrong...
21:50 iqualfragile PilzAdam: try visiting the witch
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21:51 PilzAdam iqualfragile, hm?
21:51 PilzAdam I already succeded by using a fire scroll
21:51 iqualfragile she can help you with your potency problems
21:51 iqualfragile ;:
21:51 iqualfragile ;)
21:51 iqualfragile in theory that scroll should have been cast at you, too
21:54 StarBlessed lol
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21:56 john_minetest gtg, bye
22:03 lordcirth Is there a way to change what the Enter key does in a formspec? Or to make a formspec open again automatically once submitted?
22:04 sapier no you can't change what a key does in a formspec
22:05 sapier afaik formspecs are sent on enter so you can make your mod show it again once you receive its data
22:07 lordcirth sapier: so how do I get on_fields_receive reopen the formspec?
22:07 lordcirth to reopen *
22:07 sapier it's not exactly reopen but open a new one with same formspec
22:08 lordcirth sapier: ok, yes, but how do I trigger that in lua?
22:08 sapier and dos only work for lua triggered formspecs not for button attached ones
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22:08 sapier minetest.show_formspec(player,formname,formspec)
22:08 sapier for more details have a look at lua_api.txt
22:26 * PilzAdam beat Chuck Norris
22:26 sapier pilzadam ... don't even try to you'll never beat chuck norris ;-P
22:26 PilzAdam 2 seeds, 2 teleport scrolls and 3 invulnerable potions
22:26 PilzAdam and a superman potion
22:27 sapier only chuck norris will ever even tie to chuck norris ;-P
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22:34 StarBlessed You know, Chuck Norris actually subscribed to my Youtube channel... http://www.youtube.com/user/FallenZephyrCA
22:35 lordcirth sapier: Thanks, I will look at the show_formspec
22:35 sapier how do you show a formspec first time?
22:36 PilzAdam StarBlessed, yes, because your channel is awesome
22:36 lordcirth sapier: just the automatic on rightclick
22:36 StarBlessed Bwahaha!  Im not sure I'd call it awesome.  In fact I'd probably call it a little on the cheezy side.
22:37 lordcirth sapier: but I want it to pop up again after you submit with Enter. only ESC wil exit
22:37 sapier automatic? so you use the node based one?
22:37 StarBlessed PS.  I was never any good at taking complements if it was meant that way.  lo9l
22:37 StarBlessed lol* even
22:37 lordcirth sapier: yes, I'm using the node based one. I just want it to submit and update on Enter
22:38 sapier hmm might be tricky but should work
22:39 lordcirth sapier: so I'm going to try putting show_formspec into on_fields_receive
22:39 sapier yes can be done
22:39 lordcirth sapier: if a formspec is already being shown to the player, and a second is triggered, will it exit the first?
22:40 sapier no it'll just update it
22:40 sapier I'm not quite sure but my patch fixing the name not beeing updated correctly hasn't been merged right now
22:40 lordcirth sapier: so if you've typed in a field, as long as that field still exists, the contents will stay?
22:42 sapier interesting question ... maybe ... but you should have all information available to be sen't again in on_player_receive ..
22:42 lordcirth on_player_receive ? What's that?
22:43 sapier I meant on_fields_receive
22:43 lordcirth sapier: oh ok. Also it would be great if they fixed this seg fault bug :(
22:44 sapier seg fault bug?
22:44 sapier you should be a little more precise a segfault can happen almost everywere :-)
22:46 lordcirth sapier: the new one in git master, makes it segfault the second time you load a world. so you have to load, exit, load *crash* boot it up again
22:46 lordcirth a pain for mod testing
22:46 lordcirth sapier: somebody said it was memory being freed twice
22:47 lordcirth sapier: so how do you get the playername that clicked on the terminal?
22:47 sapier I see I think I have heared about it ... still git is unstable it's quite normal to have bugs in there
22:47 sapier that's the tricky part ;-)
22:48 sapier but I can't help you with this one as I don't use node based formspecs
22:49 kahrl lordcirth: for the time being you can remove "delete font;" from main.cpp and remove "delete m_font;" from guiChatConsole.cpp
22:49 kahrl that adds the memory leaks again but at least it doesn't crash
22:51 lordcirth kahrl: awesome, thanks! 8GB RAM, I can deal with mem leaks
22:51 sapier lol
22:51 kahrl in fact for anyone who had the crashes it actually doesn't leak
22:51 sapier 8gb != infinite
22:52 lordcirth sapier: no, but if it was ever commited to git, I doubt its over 1 GB a minute
22:53 sapier having memory is no excuse for adding memory leaks ;-) it's just a dirty hack for em
22:53 sapier still a fix that does crash isn't a real fix ;-)
22:53 lordcirth ofc
22:54 kahrl the memory leak in main.cpp (with the "delete font;") isn't a real leak as the program exits directly after that
22:54 kahrl but the line keeps valgrind happy
22:55 sapier I can't tell how often I had to fix old code because the programmer thought "this never should be shutdown unles the programm exits" ... and guess what in new version it's supposed to shutdown without closing the application
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22:59 lordcirth kahrl: it doesn't crash now, thanks :) I can test much faster now!
23:01 kahrl I will try to get a proper fix into master when I find the time
23:02 sapier kahrl I realized formspec menu has grown a little bit out of shape do you know about plans to clean it up and create a real concept?
23:03 kahrl I do not
23:04 kahrl I haven't had anything to do with formspec other than the initial concept actually
23:05 sapier :-) I see ... looking at it I guess it's grown "i needed this feature so I added it"
23:05 kahrl like most everything in minetest ;)
23:05 sapier I've done same so I can't really blame anyone :-)
23:05 * PilzAdam BEAT THE GAME!!!!!!!!!
23:06 StarBlessed YAY!  Congratulations!
23:06 kahrl sweet, PilzAdam :)
23:06 sapier Did someone else hear pilzadam volonteering to clean up formspec too? ;-)
23:07 lordcirth how do I enable fullscreen? the --fullscreen option doesn't exist anymore
23:07 * PilzAdam eats a billion candies!
23:09 kahrl lordcirth: fullscreen=true, screenW=###, screenH=### in minetest.conf
23:09 kahrl with your resolution in place of ###
23:09 lordcirth kahrl: k thx
23:10 lordcirth anyone else have a little glitch where sometimes your mouse stays visible after exiting a formspec? And you have to click to get mouselook?
23:10 sapier yes
23:10 kahrl yeah I tried to fix that a long time ago but it was hacky
23:12 kahrl found it again https://github.com/kahrl/minetest/commit/04f007404c181a2109db62f9815dcbe470c4a178
23:14 sapier might become even more relevant if main menu is really switched to formspec ... this occurs almost on any join
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23:30 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/9mZNQ1E.png
23:31 RealBadAngel how does is look? :)
23:31 NakedFury are those ripples
23:31 NakedFury looks different
23:31 NakedFury cant notice where one voxel ends
23:32 NakedFury I like that
23:32 RealBadAngel its shader, and moving waves
23:33 NakedFury this is the water that would rock my world in minetest
23:33 NakedFury https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=F5KuP6qEuew
23:34 RealBadAngel heheh sure :)
23:34 NakedFury that would be insane
23:34 RealBadAngel since when mt can be run on nasa mainframes? ;)
23:34 NakedFury would actually be very different for such a voxel cubes type of game
23:35 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, Jeija already had wave shaders in a testing branch
23:36 RealBadAngel which are achieved by moving coordinates
23:36 RealBadAngel this is bump mapping
23:37 RealBadAngel water is not flat
23:37 NakedFury well the water could then be like here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6J_YcfmEqY
23:37 n4x RealBadAngel: where is the patch?
23:37 RealBadAngel also, im adding there reflections and refractions
23:38 n4x how are you going to implement the reflection?
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23:55 RealBadAngel render to texture
23:55 n4x ?
23:55 RealBadAngel i found an irrlicht example
23:56 n4x i mean, how would you get the already rendered-world "into" that texture
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23:58 RealBadAngel http://vimeo.com/24686458
23:58 RealBadAngel its all made in irrlicht
23:59 n4x so?

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