Time Nick Message 00:00 Exio i like that 00:00 kaeza Exio, s/religion/anything/ 00:00 kaeza :P 00:00 Exio there are some respectful dicussions about l33t stuff 00:47 VanessaE hi all. 00:49 kaeza hey V 00:50 VanessaE what'd I miss? :) 00:52 kaeza not much 00:52 kaeza just the usual offtopic discussions :P 00:53 kaeza people are getting bored of this 00:54 kaeza someone must feed the mindless masses with an amazing new mod :P 00:56 VanessaE heh 00:56 VanessaE and I thought I did that with moretrees. wtf more do these nuts want??? :) 00:57 kaeza I want a car 00:57 VanessaE heh 00:57 kaeza (a virtual one) 00:57 * VanessaE hands kaeza a hot wheels car 00:57 kaeza (and also a real one if it's not too much) 00:57 kaeza :P 00:58 sdzen1 why is jordan4ibanez banned? 00:58 VanessaE sdzen1: because he blanked a large number of his forum topics. 00:58 VanessaE which is expressly forbidden 00:58 VanessaE (I didn't do it though) 00:58 sdzen1 so wait... you cant remove tour stuff anymore? 00:58 sdzen1 thats bullshoit 00:58 VanessaE sdzen1: you can't blank your posts. 00:58 VanessaE you can delete your downloads if you want 00:59 VanessaE but you can't blank out the content that pointed to them 00:59 Menche it is kinda annoying when people leave in a huff and delete everything they did 00:59 Menche which unfortunately is happening quite frequently now :( 00:59 sdzen1 I have blanked my posts before, why am I not banned? 00:59 sdzen1 in fact I asked for them to be removed 00:59 sdzen1 and they still exist 00:59 Menche I've blanked a post because i accidentally double-posted 01:00 VanessaE sdzen1: maybe because if you did, no one noticed or you only did a few - he did a bunch and ragequitted. 01:00 ShadowNinja We don't have editing history AFAIK, is there a plugin for that? 01:00 VanessaE ShadowNinja: good question 01:00 Menche of course, if someone leaves and deletes everything, he's probably not planning on coming back anyway 01:01 VanessaE deleting ones posts screws up the conversation and removes information that other people could perhaps use. 01:01 VanessaE nevermind whether the downloads still exist. 01:03 sdzen1 honestly if a person wnats out they should have all traces of them wiped 01:03 sdzen1 wants* 01:03 sdzen1 a clean slate 01:04 VanessaE maybe we should just disable everyone's ability to edit posts then if they've been replied to. 01:05 sdzen1 oh and VanessaE: you need the sounds to be mono for the sound to work right 01:05 VanessaE they are mono. 01:05 sdzen1 hmmm 01:05 sdzen1 then something is broken 01:05 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~$ file Minetest-Textures-and-mods/mods/homedecor/sounds/homedecor_door_close.ogg 01:05 VanessaE Minetest-Textures-and-mods/mods/homedecor/sounds/homedecor_door_close.ogg: Ogg data, Vorbis audio, mono, 44100 Hz, ~120000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I 01:15 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/f/BP0G5egz 01:24 kaeza http://ifunny.mobi/p/f2Xfhi8J 01:24 kaeza IKR 01:57 kaeza random idea: add module music support. mods that provide background music (like ambience) and the new feature of main menu music could benefit from it 02:35 kahrl kaeza: module music? 02:35 VanessaE s3m/xm/mod probably 02:35 kaeza ^ 02:35 VanessaE or whatever's the current thing 02:36 VanessaE would be good for making really long-ass compositions that only need a few megs of space 02:36 VanessaE (I guess .it was the latest when it was still big) 02:36 kahrl ah a successor of midi then? 02:36 VanessaE sort of 02:36 kaeza all of technic ambience was converted from MODs to OGG 02:36 kaeza kahrl, exactly 02:36 VanessaE kahrl: basically, a collection of samples played at varying rates and for varying amounts of times 02:37 kahrl I first thought kaeza meant some kind of adaptive music format (which would also be cool) 02:37 kaeza except that it uses embedded digital samples 02:37 VanessaE kahrl: actually I think those were s3m's :-) 02:37 kaeza (instead f depending on the instruments on the cards/synthesisers) 02:37 VanessaE or we could do algorithmic music like on the Wii :) 02:37 sdzen1 nice idea kaeza! I was actually thinking if that would be a good thing in minetest 02:38 VanessaE it would fit in pretty well with the general "retro" feel MT is supposed ot have. 02:38 VanessaE to* 02:38 sdzen1 hehe 02:38 kaeza yup 02:38 sdzen1 its not supposed to feel like legos for adults? 02:38 kahrl I generally like the style of music in the ambience mod 02:38 sdzen1 damn we must be doing something wrong then 02:38 VanessaE sdzen1: well both :-) 02:39 VanessaE kahrl: most of it is by Skaven/FutureCrew or something like that 02:39 VanessaE (expressly licensed for use in MT, no less) 02:40 kaeza there's a good library I used a couple of times 02:40 VanessaE mikmod 02:41 VanessaE or what's the other one that audacious uses... 02:41 kaeza actually, I was thinking about DUMB 02:41 VanessaE modplug is the other 02:41 VanessaE DUMB? not familiar with it 02:41 kaeza http://dumb.sf.net 02:42 kaeza well... it's a bit outdated 02:42 kaeza not sure about the status of the other options 02:43 kaeza "Thu Dec 96 2912: The first beta of libmikmod-3.3.x - libmikmod-3.3.1 is out." <-- wut 02:43 kaeza a library from da future! 02:43 VanessaE haha 02:44 VanessaE well now we know it'll survive for another 900 years :D 02:44 kahrl also an interesting fact that the months become longer in the future 02:45 VanessaE hah! 02:45 VanessaE I didn't even see that 02:45 kaeza lol 02:45 VanessaE whhhhaaaaatttt??? HDX menusplash doesn't work anymore!?!?!? 02:45 kaeza blame celeron 02:45 VanessaE G*D damn it 02:46 kaeza :D 02:46 VanessaE celeron55_: what the fuck man? 02:47 VanessaE I'll take out the "Minetest" footer if that matters, but the splash is supposed to be game-agnostic! 02:53 * VanessaE sighs 02:56 VanessaE especially for the *client* 03:41 kaeza hrm 03:42 kaeza libmikmod3.x "stable" link links to a bad archive, and ubuntu repos have 2.x 03:43 kaeza additionally, SF.net has 3.1.x, while latest stable seems to be 3.2.x 03:45 kaeza I wonder how much stable is the "beta" version... 03:49 VanessaE use whatever comes with audacious on ubuntu, last time I used that, it worked fine 03:49 VanessaE (I use audacious all the time, but not the mod plugin) 03:54 kaeza hmm 03:54 kaeza will look into that 04:10 [0gb_us] Who here likes ***cat pictures***? 04:10 [0gb_us] I found a cute one. 04:10 [0gb_us] http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af88/Archetype421/Kitten-kiss-wakes-dad_zps56b0d5e6.gif 04:13 * kaeza has a new phone wallpaper now :) 04:13 khonkhortisan my video skips a spot 04:14 [0gb_us] Yeah, is skips a spot. BUt it's still cute. 04:14 VanessaE [0gb_us]: awwwwwwww! 04:17 kaeza interesting: audacious just took a dump on me 04:17 kaeza err... dumped core 04:17 VanessaE heh, figures 04:17 khonkhortisan same thing 04:17 [0gb_us] Hmm. THat doesn't sound good. 04:17 VanessaE I suggest it, and it crashes for you 04:18 VanessaE I've got it playing right now, from my ABBA playlist. 04:18 kaeza ABBA :D 04:18 [0gb_us] I can't say I have much experience with it. I used it all of, what, once? SOmething like that. 04:19 [0gb_us] Hmm. I need to test my new music player, and see if it's as dysfunctional as the last. 04:19 kaeza what you using? 04:19 [0gb_us] I used to have to use the movie player to handle my music properly ... 04:19 [0gb_us] Not sure, new system. Let's see .... 04:20 [0gb_us] Gmusicbrowser. 04:20 kaeza audacious seems very lightweight 04:20 kaeza I used to use xmplay (for Windows under Wine) 04:20 kaeza almost 100% CPU usage even when idle 04:20 VanessaE audacious is formerly xmms aka x11-amp :-) 04:21 VanessaE (well, a fork thereof) 04:22 * kaeza wishes portable music players supported MOD playback :( 04:23 [0gb_us] It's looping .... How do I make it stop looping ...? 04:23 VanessaE cut it so that you have a straight piece of string? 04:23 VanessaE ;) 04:24 [0gb_us] That might work. 04:24 * VanessaE ducks and runs 04:24 * [0gb_us] opens his computer, and begins cutting wires 04:24 VanessaE no! shit not that o&*$(!#^&%*$!^#~&($EE~NO CARRIER 04:26 khonkhortisan FATAL: No bootable medium found! System halted. 04:26 [0gb_us] Even worse, it switches songs if on an album with with multiple songs when the first song ends .... 04:26 [0gb_us] Why is it so hard to play one song one time, and stop? 04:26 khonkhortisan it's too smart for that 04:26 [0gb_us] Too smart to do what I want it to do? 04:27 khonkhortisan it does what it thinks you want it to do, not what you tell it to do 04:27 VanessaE for audacious, those settings are in the Playback menu ('stop after curent song' and 'repeat') 04:27 [0gb_us] But there should be a setting to get it to do what I want. 04:27 kaeza1 HORY SHET! AUDACIOUS HAS PSF PLAYBACK!! :DDDDD 04:28 * [0gb_us] starts singing "Give Me All Your Love" 04:28 [0gb_us] YES! Found the setting. 04:29 VanessaE ABBA, "Does Your Mother Know" 04:29 [0gb_us] So unlike my last music player, this one may not be incompetent. Good. 04:34 [0gb_us] Oh, WHAT!? The setting resets when you start a new song. Just like the old music player .... 04:34 [0gb_us] So it IS incompetent .... 04:34 Infinity_69|away Bye audience! 04:36 VanessaE [0gb_us]: then set "no playlist advance" 04:37 [0gb_us] I don't think I have that option. I'll look for it again though. 04:40 [0gb_us] Yeah, it's not here. 04:41 [0gb_us] The only setting that works resets itself after every song. 04:42 [0gb_us] How hard is it to play one song one time without specifying EACH TIME that I STILL don't want to hear every song on the album in a loop? 05:07 celeron55_ why not just make a playlist with one song 05:07 celeron55_ if you use playlists are music libraries, that's wrong 05:22 [0gb_us] I have zero play lists. 05:23 [0gb_us] I try to play one song, and it wants to play the whole album. 05:23 [0gb_us] Creating a playlist for every individual song would be very time consuming, and cumbersome to work with. 05:24 [0gb_us] Besides, playlists with one song still loop. I always want to play one song one time. No looping, no lists, no anything. 05:40 kaeza VanessaE, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=87969#p87969 05:41 kaeza at least this one is not one of those automated bots and actually has a mind (?) 05:42 kahrl don't think so 05:43 [0gb_us] Looks like a mindless bot to me. 05:43 [0gb_us] Some are designed to post in topics that contain certain words, to appear more relevant. 05:44 [0gb_us] Also, I found a hacky solution for my music issue. It works in my specific use case, but there should be a real setting, for people who want the setting AND use some of the more advanced features. 06:42 aldobr hi all 06:42 aldobr kaeza1 are you online ? 06:42 kaeza1 no :P 06:42 aldobr i have a mod project 06:42 aldobr but i am too lazy to implement it 06:43 aldobr :P 06:43 aldobr its a left 4 minetest mod 06:43 aldobr create a zombie spawner 06:43 aldobr and nodes that work as level objectives 06:43 aldobr add your gun mod 06:44 aldobr and dissalow digging (except for level objective nodes) 06:44 aldobr take a premade map 06:44 aldobr and voila, left 4 minetest 06:44 aldobr players spawn at spawn 06:44 aldobr and have to work their way into each objective node, dig it and walk back to spawn 06:44 aldobr without getting killed by the zombies 06:44 aldobr what you think ? 06:45 kaeza those are some quite ambitious ideas 06:45 aldobr i want to try to reuse existing mods as possible 06:45 aldobr to cut the work to minimal 06:45 kaeza zombie spawner: adapt code from MOBF or peaceful_npc 06:46 kaeza not being able to dig: maptools 06:46 aldobr maps will have to be premade : ie, take redcrab server map and edit it to include objectives 06:46 aldobr for example 06:46 kaeza ehm... 06:46 aldobr i would love to kill zombies in my village 06:46 aldobr :P 06:48 aldobr maybe add my mint mod 06:48 aldobr and change the behaviour of selling machines 06:48 kaeza would be useful if you coded some of that stuff 06:48 aldobr instead of removing items from the machine inventory 06:48 aldobr itens are cloned at every sell 06:49 aldobr killed zombies drop coins 06:49 aldobr players take the coins to buy weapons and food 06:49 aldobr more coins = more powerfull weapons 06:50 aldobr zombies can open wooden doors 06:51 aldobr make a special steel door that cant be opened by zombies 06:51 aldobr place clobblestone buildings in stages 06:51 aldobr with steel doors 06:51 aldobr so players can enter those rooms and be safe 06:51 aldobr etc 06:51 aldobr what you think ? 06:52 kaeza cool story bro 06:52 kaeza though the ideas are nice, I don't see myself implementing any of it anytime soon 06:53 aldobr :( 06:53 aldobr me too 06:53 aldobr i am taking an eletromechanics course that is taking my skin out 06:56 aldobr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcjL_Cn_ZoE 06:56 aldobr this 06:56 aldobr :D 06:58 kaeza :| 07:03 aldobr bye all gotta sleep 07:07 sbaugh minetest is great, but aren't these block textures a little low-resolution? 07:07 sbaugh also, why is it called minetest? 07:16 sbaugh also, why are all the servers empty? how sad :( 07:17 celeron55_ this time of the day is quite quiet 07:17 sbaugh on irc, or on the servers? 07:17 celeron55_ everywhere 07:18 celeron55_ also, answer to both of your first questions: why not? 8) 07:18 sbaugh ah, okay, good, i was worried - it would be not wonderful if this wonderful effort was abandoned by players 07:19 sbaugh celeron55_: well, higher resolution dirt never hurt anyone! (also it looks lower resolution than in minecraft) is it a deliberate decision not to up the texture resolution, or am i missing something? 07:20 celeron55_ it's all the same resolution as minecraft uses (or at least used in the alpha days) 07:21 kahrl You have eaten 803423389 candies! 07:21 kahrl celeron55_: ^ I finally beat that game :D 07:21 celeron55_ kahrl: lol 07:21 sbaugh oh! i see - it's because i enabled anistropic filtering or *-linear filtering, obviously! 07:21 sbaugh so it looked blurry :) 07:21 celeron55_ sbaugh: those settings aren't very noob-friendly :P 07:21 sbaugh i should think before i enable things :) 07:22 celeron55_ should add a setting "disable minetest" so that people would think twice before checking every checkbox 07:22 sbaugh haha 07:23 sbaugh oh, i see, it looks much better now 09:38 VanessaE morning Calinou 09:40 Calinou hi 09:47 * Calinou reached 250 comment karma on reddit 09:47 Calinou made a comment with 12 upvotes :D 09:48 VanessaE cool, I guess :) 09:48 VanessaE (I don't care much for reddit) 09:49 Calinou and some people are here for 9 months or so and have 10k comment karma :P 09:49 Calinou I post what I think, and not often, I get quite a lot of downvotes :> 10:07 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:07 VanessaE morning PA 10:07 Calinou morning pulseaudio 10:08 VanessaE heh 10:08 * Calinou enables hyperthreading to reduce PilzAdam latency 10:08 Calinou oops 10:08 Calinou :) 10:08 PilzAdam wow 10:08 PilzAdam Im 80% faster now! 10:11 PilzAdam VanessaE, wrong: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=87929#p87929 10:12 PilzAdam see my post at the bottom 10:12 VanessaE oh, didn't even see the flatland mod 10:12 VanessaE still, I've benchmarked moretrees and seen how slow snow mod is. my comment stands. 10:12 VanessaE good catch though 10:13 VanessaE moved flatlands to old mod. 10:13 VanessaE mods* 10:15 PilzAdam some moderator should go through Mod Releases and look for obsolete or not working mods 10:15 kaeza spam? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=87987#p87987 10:16 kaeza doesn't look like a real spammer though (see other posts) 10:16 PilzAdam the URL ends: "product.php" 10:16 VanessaE I dunno, two posts that look legit 10:16 VanessaE looks like a profiling app. 10:16 VanessaE I'll just nuke that one post for now. 10:17 VanessaE or topic. 10:17 celeron55_ i think that guy is just incredibly bad at english 8) 10:17 celeron55_ don't do that yet 10:17 VanessaE too late 10:18 VanessaE still have the content of the offending post if you wanna recreate it. 10:19 celeron55_ also the page he referred to is about a 100% open source thing 10:19 VanessaE "The enterprise-class monitoring solution for everyone" comes off as spam, to me 10:20 VanessaE it is GPL2 though.. 10:20 Calinou "brought to you by OCZ" 10:21 VanessaE oh well, if he wants to be understood, he can either learn to string nouns and verbs together into some semblance of English, or speak in his native tongue in the appropriate section of the forum :-) 10:21 kaeza oe google translate it :) 10:21 kaeza or* 10:21 VanessaE kaeza: that probably *was* a good translate output :) 10:22 kaeza well... maybe :P 10:22 VanessaE google* 10:22 celeron55_ i guess you could note the reason with a PM to him 10:22 VanessaE sure 10:23 PilzAdam "Sorry that I deleted your topic, I thought it was spam. Though, it turned out that you are just stupid, sorry" 10:24 VanessaE "... your post regarding Zabbix was deleted from the forum because it looked like spam. If this was in error, feel free to re-post it, but please use clear English. If you are unable to do so, please use the "Discussion in other languages" section of the forum and speak there in your native language." 10:24 celeron55_ 8D more like "your question was not understandable in english and it looked like a spam advertisement" 10:25 VanessaE (a verbose way of saying what c55 said ;) ) 10:25 celeron55_ but i mean, that company is from latvia and there's a slim chance that guy might be using it (or even working for them) and wants to add some capability for MT servers 10:26 celeron55_ ...it's incredibly stupid to not know more english than that in today's world though 10:26 VanessaE maybe. still, I get plenty of spam reports on the forums, so what can I say? :-) 10:26 * VanessaE goes back to watching videos. 10:26 * celeron55_ says spam sucks 10:27 Calinou old news 10:27 kaeza new users shouldn't be allowed to post links 10:27 VanessaE agreed,. 10:27 Calinou imo, users with more than 10 posts shouldn't have antispam questions 10:27 kaeza in fact, don't allow new users to post text at all 10:27 VanessaE 10 posts and then you can add a link to somewhere. 10:27 kaeza that should solve the spam issue :P 10:27 Calinou VanessaE: already the case, no? "qwook" complained about not being able to post links 10:28 PilzAdam celeron55_, you know that you can leave that "/me says" away and just type what you want to say? 10:28 VanessaE Calinou: nope, even the first post can post a link, that's how most of the spam I get is. 10:28 PilzAdam everyone will read it as "celeron55_ says:" 10:28 * Calinou says: PilzAdam doesn't know what the power of /me is! 10:29 tiin57 Does anyone think that Minetest would run well on a Pi? 10:30 VanessaE not even close. 10:30 VanessaE :) 10:30 tiin57 Oh 10:30 PilzAdam there is a youtube video where the server runs on a PI 10:30 PilzAdam (IIRC) 10:30 celeron55_ a server will run with a few players 10:30 VanessaE I think he means the client :) 10:30 tiin57 I mean a client :p Unless I can test Lua mods with a server. 10:31 celeron55_ well... the mods run on the server, but you kind of need the client to poke them 10:31 tiin57 Ok 10:32 celeron55_ MT can probably run on raspberry pi, but it's unusably slow 10:32 celeron55_ (the client) 10:32 celeron55_ it just doesn't have the CPU power required 10:32 tiin57 Ah 10:33 tiin57 I wonder. Would a vnc connection make it unusable? 10:33 tiin57 I've got a couple VPS's 10:33 Calinou "VPS", the thing where you have 600MHz of AMD CPU power which is used by bitcoin miners? 10:34 Calinou even the worst dedi is infinitely better than a VPS 10:34 tiin57 Nope, the thing where I've got 1.8ghz of Xeon and 2gb RAM 10:34 Calinou part of that xeon 10:34 Calinou not all the xeon 10:34 tiin57 Right. 10:34 Calinou and people constantly torrent/bitcoin mine on it 10:34 tiin57 :/ 10:34 tiin57 It runs an MC server pretty well. 10:35 tiin57 And an irc bot. 10:35 Calinou if it does then you can run a MT server 10:35 Calinou but on some VPS, the CPU power is far from guaranteed, that's what I'm saying 10:35 tiin57 Ok 10:35 Calinou my channel list went boom in xchat ._. 10:36 Calinou found it! ctrl+I 10:36 Calinou have to go now 10:37 tiin57 Ok, well thanks! 10:44 iqualfragile is somebody here willing and able to do some css related work to help me with a minetest-related project? 11:13 kaeza random small update: http://youtu.be/48JRBniUJyY 11:15 kaeza (also showing a new HQ font with smooth (?) edges) 11:24 Calinou lol, got spam on a 1 month thread about netbooks 11:36 Infinity_69 who uses Xubuntu?! 11:36 Infinity_69 i need a pre-compiled build! 11:36 Calinou HIGH FIVE! 11:36 Infinity_69 i386 11:36 Calinou nope. 11:36 Infinity_69 :) 11:36 Calinou amd64 for the win 11:36 Infinity_69 :o 11:37 Infinity_69 who uses Xubuntu i386 11:37 Calinou 32 bit is obsolete today 11:37 Infinity_69 yeah, i dont give a shit! 11:37 Infinity_69 :D 11:37 Infinity_69 WOW 11:37 Infinity_69 it made shit into shit :D 11:37 VanessaE Infinity_69: if your machine is less than ~10 years old, it can run AMD64 I'm sure 11:37 * Calinou gives Infinity_69 an handful of chill pills 11:38 Calinou VanessaE: any decent CPU from > 2006 can run 64 bit :P 11:38 VanessaE close enough. 11:40 * xming has a 20 years old CPU (frome 1993) which can run in 64-bit 11:43 Calinou ö_ö 11:43 Calinou nope 11:43 Calinou 64 bit was invented in 2004 or so by AMD 11:43 Calinou as in, x86_64 12:00 kaeza jojoa surpassed PilzAdam in number of posts O.O 12:01 VanessaE he's a posting fool :) 12:03 xming Calinou: AMD didn't invented 64-bit, AMD implemtent 64-bit for x86 first 12:03 xming there are tons of 64-bit CPUs before x86_64 12:04 xming like Dec Alpha, Sparc64, PaRISC, PowerPC64, ... 12:05 celeron55_ and there was intel's 64-bit extension for servers or something for x86 12:05 celeron55_ but then amd's catched on and everyone follows that architecture now 12:06 xming and 64-bits is slowere than 32-bit on most archs except on x86, because the shortage of registers is addressed in x86_64 12:07 xming yeah Intel canned x86_64 in favour of Itanic 12:08 xming and later had to implement amd64 as x86_64, I guess that they weren't happy about that :D 12:10 xming sigh and after 30 years we are still stuck with x86 12:23 jojoa1997 PilzAdam: please make a new build 12:23 PilzAdam what has changed? 12:23 jojoa1997 pretty please with what ever you want on top(what do you like?) 12:24 jojoa1997 um look at the changes on github 12:24 jojoa1997 i really want to see this new menu stuff 12:27 Calinou xming: ARM is still too slow to be usable on desktop :3 12:27 Calinou if ARM had same computing power as x86 it would use more electricity 12:28 Calinou RISC has its limits 12:28 xming Calinou: my 20 year old 64-bit is also very slow, 300Mhz :p 12:28 Calinou 3400mhz quad core here :trollface: and I could go to 4600mhz or so if I wanted 12:29 xming x86 won before of scale and superior fabs of Intel 12:29 xming s/before/because 12:32 xming and compatibility 12:33 * jojoa1997 wonders if he will see a build from PilzAdam 12:34 xming what is so difficult to compile it? 12:34 sfan5 jojoa1997: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.6-0deb68d-win32.7z 12:34 jojoa1997 long story but i can't no questions needed. 12:34 jojoa1997 sfan is that for today's stuff? 12:35 sfan5 yes 12:35 sfan5 built 2 mins ago 12:35 * jojoa1997 steals it 12:35 jojoa1997 awe sweet you gave me a direct loink 12:35 jojoa1997 link 12:39 jojoa1997 it is nice except i cant see the nmaes of the games in it 12:39 sfan5 lyrics of what i'm currently hearing: wub wub wub wub 12:40 jojoa1997 wub wub wub wub wubw ubw ubw wubhw wubw wub wub wubw uw wubw wbw wub wub wubw ubw wubhw wubw forget it 12:44 kaeza Calinou, excellent reply to onpon 12:45 kaeza seriously, I'm getting fed up with these GNU zealots 12:45 * VanessaE throws some GPL text at kaeza 12:46 kaeza VanessaE, http://nooooooooooooooo.com/ 12:46 VanessaE :) 12:46 Calinou kaeza: updated it a bit 12:47 Calinou for fun I've done a "decent-ified" version of the 14" laptop: $1714 (i7-3517U, matte screen, 180GB SSD, 3 year warranty, 8GB of RAM) 12:48 Calinou on the desktop side, for that money, I can make a PC with a 3930K (hexacore), or a 3770K + titan (for about $100 more) 12:48 kaeza :D 12:48 kaeza btw, $276 ? 12:49 Calinou $276 on the "royal" laptop is difference between pentium and i5, iirc 12:49 kaeza that's what costed my E5700 Dual Core :( 12:49 Calinou well you can get a 3770 (non-K) for the same price 12:49 Calinou more than twice as powerful 12:49 Calinou also, there's no option for 1600×900 (good for 13/15") or 1920×1080 (best for 17", although they don't have any 17"s) 12:49 Calinou and... 180$ just for matte screen, wtf? 12:50 kaeza we have 5 yrs old hardware at -5 yrs old price 12:50 Calinou lastly, you have no idea what's the SSD, 180GB SSD costs $250 12:50 Calinou for $250 I can get a 256GB 840 pro (a pretty good one) 12:50 Calinou even less, it's more like $200 today 12:50 kaeza E5700 Dual Core @ 3.1GHz, 500GB disk, 4GB RAM 12:50 Calinou and of course, you can't order your laptop without RAM/storage (so that you can put some yourself) 12:51 Calinou other "customisers" such as clevo let you do that 12:51 kaeza actually, ~8000 $UY (roughly $400) 12:51 Calinou john_minetest: and slow 8) 12:51 Calinou also, no 3TB costs 85€, internal 3TBs usually cost 110€ at least 12:52 Calinou and internal is much cheaper than external 12:53 Calinou also, "built-in audio", for the price I'd like to have decent audio, as far as I know, only apple hardware has decent built-in speakers. 12:53 jojoa1997 how would i make locked chests become chests but keep the inventory 12:53 Calinou I doubt it is on think penguin laptops :P 12:53 Calinou jojoa1997: not sure if you can 12:54 jojoa1997 well then i will give minitesters 2 weeks to move their stuff into locked chests and i will make a on jion playher notice for people to be reminded 12:54 Calinou ads about HDDs on TV? I never saw any in france :P 12:58 Calinou lol no 12:59 Calinou first, very few external HDDs are 7200rpm 12:59 Calinou sata's speed is 6Gb/s and can actually be reached, unlike USB 3.0's hypothetical 5Gb/s 12:59 Calinou my SSD reads at 525MB/s in sequential 12:59 VanessaE a bit over twice the speed mine is 13:00 iqualfragile yeah, ide is another deal 13:00 Calinou it fell at 480MB/s after backing up my /home to it, TRIM isn't enabled yet 13:00 Calinou still pretty nice 13:01 jojoa1997 VanessaE i someone made a dokucraft texture pack that has minitest support :-D 13:01 VanessaE cool 13:01 Calinou also, about think penguin: "Enjoy your Penguin without the glare. Reflective, high-glare screens that are on modern consumer-grade laptops are horrible for portable machines designed to be outdoors and in sunlight. Fix it with a matte screen upgrade." 13:01 Calinou they're telling you to upgrade the base design, sounds very "consumerist" 13:02 Calinou my 2TB 7200rpm HDD reads 129MB/s 13:02 Calinou RAM = 14367MB/s 13:02 Calinou laptop HDDs are 2.5" = slower 13:02 Calinou and often 5400rpm, except on high end laptops 13:02 * john_minetest stacks ram now 13:02 Calinou hdparm -Tt /dev/sda 13:02 Calinou with sudo 13:02 Calinou use this to test ;) 13:02 iqualfragile john_minetest: wont help if you are not using linux 13:03 Calinou my old laptop doesn't spin one of its fans iirc 13:03 Calinou graphic card reaches 102°C in load *broken teeth* 13:03 Calinou but still works nice 8) 13:03 xming your SSD is faster than the RAM of my Sparc64 :D 13:06 iqualfragile i finaly got my fan to spinn with less then 100% 13:08 Calinou lol 13:11 Calinou kaeza: fun fact, at clevo I made a similar build (but with better screen and much better graphics card)... when you add a SSD yourself, it would cost about $1500 13:11 Calinou $220 less expensive and much better *broken teeth* 13:14 jojoa1997 i know of a computer that is free but has more power than a super comouter 13:15 iqualfragile no, pregnancy is not free 13:16 jojoa1997 not that 13:16 jojoa1997 YOUR MIND> THE BRAIN! !!ME!! 13:16 jojoa1997 wow that is the perfect thing to join to 13:17 kaeza iqualfragile, lol 13:17 Evil_Zombie BRAINZZZZ 13:17 kaeza oh, Calinou left :( 13:18 jojoa1997 brb 13:50 Infinity_69 hi 13:52 BlockMen hi 13:53 iqualfragile http://www.youtube.com/user/BriTANicKdotcom i can just recommend that channel 13:56 kaeza hey BlockMen 13:59 Infinity_69 hi Kaeza, happy birthday! 14:00 Infinity_69 i put a Yo Dawg... meme on the topic earlier, but it got removed... 14:00 kaeza Infinity_69, thanks :) 14:00 kaeza but it was 3 days ago xD 14:00 iqualfragile kaeza: carefull there, too many birthays might be deadly 14:01 Infinity_69 srsly?! 14:01 Infinity_69 yeah... 14:01 Infinity_69 >:D 14:01 kaeza Infinity_69, no point in not doing stupid things in life... you won't get alive from it anyway 14:02 Infinity_69 gonna cheat on a "How fast can you click in X seconds" game/app :D 14:02 kaeza inb4 mouse died :) 14:04 kaeza derp... 14:04 kaeza iqualfragile, that quote was for you :P 14:04 kaeza tab completion phail :| 14:06 iqualfragile shocking study reveals: we are all going to die, police expects mass panic 14:11 BlockMen wtf?! -> http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=87845#p87845 14:12 BlockMen oh..hi kaeza 14:19 Zeg9 Hi 14:21 kaeza hey zeg 14:21 Zeg9 Hi kaeza, new image ? :D 14:22 kaeza ಠ_ಠ14:22 kaeza :P 14:23 Zeg9 Unicode fail... Let me check my settings 14:24 Infinity_69 hi 14:24 Zeg9 ompload won't work -_- 14:24 kaeza try Dropbox 14:25 Zeg9 Hey jmf 14:25 Infinity_69 hi jmf 14:25 Zeg9 Dropbox needs registering, I am too lazy 14:25 Zeg9 I'll do on imgur 14:27 Zeg9 I died 14:27 Zeg9 http://imgur.com/PMHJyHw 14:27 Zeg9 Infinity_69, john_minetest ^ 14:28 Infinity_69 ok, whats the point of that? 14:28 Zeg9 Well, that's a mob... 14:28 Infinity_69 oh... 14:28 Infinity_69 so thats why lava has a face 14:28 kaeza Zeg9, awesome :D 14:29 Zeg9 The animation is epic 14:29 Infinity_69 Lava Cube (MC) == Flan (MT) 14:29 Zeg9 I'll reduce the spawn rates and upload it 14:30 Zeg9 My lava lakes are weird since I tried the indev mapgen... 14:32 BlockMen bbl 14:36 jojoa1997 what am i doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/B0vTUSf0 14:45 Infinity_69 hi OldCoder :D 14:46 OldCoder Infinity_69, Hi! 14:46 kaeza jojoa1997, position = {x=1, y=1.0} <-- you are positioning the hotbar at the bottom-right corner 14:46 kaeza hello OldCoder 14:48 jojoa1997 but it still doesnt show 9 inventory spots 14:48 OldCoder kaeza, I wish to speak more in the future 14:48 kaeza OldCoder, sure :) 15:11 KikaRz Hello 15:12 KikaRz Who can give me a Free MySQL hosting with the following permissions: SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE, CREATE? 15:12 jojoa1997 ok so i have gotten the hotbar to work but the red outline doesnt show does anyone have any idea how to do that. and i want the red outline to show on what the player is holding 15:12 Jordach KikaRz, host1free 15:12 KikaRz Jordach, nope. 15:12 KikaRz That don't works. 15:13 Jordach tch 15:13 KikaRz It has only UPDATE permission 15:13 Jordach no clue 15:13 KikaRz as the another ones. 15:14 KikaRz and what's clue? 15:22 KikaRz Jordach, i've tried host1free, it says "localhost" as hostname, but I can't use that. 15:24 RealBadAngel localhost is your computer, its LOCAL ;) 15:24 RealBadAngel 127.0.0.1 15:25 PilzAdam no 15:25 PilzAdam 127.0.0.2 15:26 khonkhortisan I have both 15:27 PilzAdam I have 16 million more 15:29 sfan5 127.0.0.0/8 15:29 KikaRz Oh! THANKS!!! 15:29 KikaRz :D 15:30 sfan5 holy madda of fuck! my python socks5 server works 15:32 Calinou lol'd @ game icons 15:32 * Calinou thinks he made everyone ragequit at sky hardcore 15:34 Jordach holy fuck 15:34 * Calinou updated the changelog: http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog 15:34 Jordach in art today, we ended up dueling with wooden spoons 15:35 Calinou wooden shovels suck at PvP, they don't do additional damage over fist 15:35 PilzAdam Calinou, lol, wrong 15:35 KikaRz Calinou, are you joking 15:35 KikaRz ? 15:35 sfan5 Jordach: lol 15:35 KikaRz It's 2014 April First day ? 15:36 KikaRz Added snow, snowblock, ice and dirt_with_snow (PilzAdam) 15:36 KikaRz It's snow falling from sky? 15:38 PilzAdam Calinou, http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=Changelog&diff=1237&oldid=1236 15:38 PilzAdam ^ learn from it 15:41 jojoa1997 https://www.dropbox.com/s/89jus7wr86m1kvv/screenshot_10223065.png 15:41 jojoa1997 armor is here! 15:41 Jordach -10 15:42 jojoa1997 jordach you dont have to download the mod 15:43 kaeza wow my player armor demo video has 137 views :D 15:43 jojoa1997 what do other non grumpy face people(jordach) think about it 15:43 PilzAdam -10 *trollface* 15:44 * jojoa1997 places the new tnt on PilzAdam 15:44 rubenwardy shame about jordan 15:45 rubenwardy My latest thing: Craft Recipe checker - A tool for debuging mods: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5831 15:45 rubenwardy see my signature: http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=2051 15:47 jojoa1997 !up sunrisetest.no-ip.org 15:47 MinetestBot sunrisetest.no-ip.org:30000 is up (0.227ms) 15:47 arsdragonfly Can I simply reload the original register_craft function? 15:48 rubenwardy just replace all "minetest.register_craft(" with "mod.recipe(" 15:48 arsdragonfly so that I don't need to replace the functions in the lua files respectively 15:48 PilzAdam rubenwardy, why do you make it so complicated? 15:48 rubenwardy when it is not in debug mode, mod.recipe( is an alisas for minetest.register_craft( 15:49 rubenwardy because there is not minetest.register_craft in builtin.lua 15:49 rubenwardy (so I can not replace that) 15:49 PilzAdam you can 15:49 rubenwardy and there is no minetest.registered_crafts 15:50 rubenwardy I can replace it, but then It would not work 15:50 kaeza wasn't there a pull request for minetest.registered_crafts floating around somewhere? 15:51 PilzAdam https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/5510206 15:51 rubenwardy ... 15:51 rubenwardy (4:50:18 PM) rubenwardy: I can replace it, but then It would not work 15:51 Exio Node placement prediction now accounts for "facedir" and does only replace buildable_to nodes (kahrl & ShadowNinja) 15:51 Exio facedir? 15:51 rubenwardy how would the craft stuff be inserted? 15:51 arsdragonfly Is it possible to save the old function to a local variable and reload it with the new mod.recipe() in builtin.lua? 15:51 Exio i only see wallmounted nodes prediction 15:52 rubenwardy ah 15:52 Exio https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/777ac58f85c74d2945886869e9b63b0f450ac3aa#L0R834 15:52 rubenwardy now that is clever 15:52 PilzAdam Exio, fixed 15:52 rubenwardy thanks guy 15:52 Exio kk 15:52 rubenwardy s 15:53 PilzAdam rubenwardy, lets just hope that Lua functions are not call by reference 15:53 PilzAdam otherwise we have a little problem 15:55 rubenwardy It appears to work 15:55 PilzAdam then only tables are call by reference 15:55 thexyz sincerely, I don't believe it was a very good idea http://i.imgur.com/XCNUajM.png 15:57 PilzAdam thexyz, it does look better if all buttons have icons 15:57 arsdragonfly What's that in the bottom left corner? 15:58 PilzAdam game filter 15:59 arsdragonfly what's that? @_@ 16:00 Jordach wtf 16:00 Jordach why does photoshop load faster than gimp 16:01 thexyz Jordach: why do you think gimp should load faster? 16:01 Jordach because open source 16:02 kaeza > gtk, > faster 16:02 kaeza wut 16:02 rubenwardy It works 16:03 rubenwardy but it does not work with groups, ie: group:wool 16:03 rubenwardy arsdragonfly: I have updated it now 16:03 rubenwardy install it as a common mod, or just as a plain mod 16:04 Calinou GIMP loads faster than PS for me (from what I've seen on other people's PCs) 16:04 arsdragonfly The reload way? lol 16:04 kaeza rubenwardy, you may find this useful: http://pastebin.com/26sidLdB 16:05 rubenwardy how fast is that? 16:06 kaeza no real benchmarks, sorry 16:07 rubenwardy would 16:07 rubenwardy #get_items_in_group(groupname)==0 16:07 rubenwardy work 16:07 Jordach Calinou, Photoshop Elements 10 to be exact 16:08 kaeza rubenwardy, nope :/ 16:08 kaeza in this case, if you want to check if the table is empty, use next() 16:09 kaeza local t = get_items_in_group("bleh"); if (next(t)) then ... end 16:09 kaeza (or adapt it to use an array instead of a map) 16:10 Calinou lol, PSE sucks :P 16:10 Calinou GIMP is far better than PSE :P 16:11 Jordach Calinou, lighter too 16:11 Jordach i actually watched gimp crash on a network before 16:11 Jordach fuck querying plugins 16:12 rubenwardy I think it works 16:15 rubenwardy actually, I think I know why it does not work properly 16:16 rubenwardy it looks for group:wood = x rather than wood=x 16:16 rubenwardy works now 16:17 rubenwardy PilzAdam: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=88069#p88069 16:24 jojoa1997 Jordach with your minecraft rtexture pack 16:24 jojoa1997 you were right with the jungle leaves but those bulb things are like a gren slightly yellow 16:25 kaeza old topic bumped: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=88074#p88074 16:34 PilzAdam jojoa1997, heres a icon for MiniTest: http://s14.postimg.org/58w4yrq7x/icon.png 16:40 khonkhortisan Red wool drops into stone tile just by my looking at it - lag is annoying 16:42 jojoa1997 PilzAdam why would i need that icon? 16:42 PilzAdam for the new menu? 16:43 jojoa1997 ? 16:43 jojoa1997 oh 16:43 jojoa1997 how do i set it to be in the new menu? 16:44 PilzAdam see minimal 16:44 jojoa1997 you go a background for me? 16:45 PilzAdam no 16:45 jojoa1997 ok i have one 16:46 jojoa1997 coulod i have multiple backgrounds 16:46 PilzAdam dont use backgrounds 16:46 jojoa1997 why not :P 16:49 Zeg9 PilzAdam: could you add on_step to mob definition in simple mobs? 16:50 PilzAdam sure 16:50 PilzAdam why do you need it? 16:50 Zeg9 I want a mob to let lava behind him when it walks 16:51 rubenwardy that recipe script is so useful 16:51 rubenwardy found 6 errors in my food mod 16:51 rubenwardy (from when i separated it into a modpack) 16:53 * Calinou is on markveidemanis' server 16:53 Calinou people talk to me in spanish 16:54 kaeza bbl 16:59 jojoa1997 PilzAdam how would i get the moving clouds to work behind a background 17:01 PilzAdam dunno 17:01 PilzAdam dont use backgrounds for MiniTest 17:01 jojoa1997 why not 17:01 jojoa1997 i already have a good one 17:11 Calinou behind a background? 17:11 Calinou isn't that a bit backwards 17:13 sfan5 yep 17:15 PilzAdam New windows build: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547 17:15 PilzAdam builds will be uploaded here from now on: https://www.dropbox.com/home/Minetest%20win32%20builds 17:15 PilzAdam * https://www.dropbox.com/sh/am3ddzfm8qxz9w0/VlbFIebGBK 17:18 rubenwardy added alias checking to https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/5504537 17:19 Exio Calinou: what did they say? 17:19 PilzAdam rubenwardy, why do you do "~= true"? 17:20 rubenwardy not equals to true 17:20 rubenwardy og 17:20 rubenwardy *oh 17:20 rubenwardy is nil == false? 17:20 PilzAdam not exactly 17:20 khonkhortisan not quite 17:20 khonkhortisan but not variable checks for both nil and false 17:21 PilzAdam but you can leave ~= true away 17:21 PilzAdam +and add not 17:25 Evergreen Hi 18:05 Jordach thexyz, why is chrome and webkit based browsers blocked from logging in 18:05 Jordach last time i checked, chrome is the most used browser in the world; not to mention now allowing new members with chrome cant be part of the community 18:05 Jordach because of that bot check 18:06 VanessaE http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/13/05/03/1749258/warner-bros-sued-by-meme-creators-over-copyright-infringement 18:06 VanessaE HAH! 18:06 VanessaE Nyan Cat dude sues WB over trademark infringement 18:06 VanessaE priceless 18:06 Jordach NO WAY 18:06 VanessaE way. 18:07 Jordach you do realise hes just egotistical 18:07 Jordach like most internet users that get popular 18:07 VanessaE yup 18:07 Jordach eg, skydoesmc 18:08 Jordach the list goes on 18:11 sfan5 VanessaE: epic 18:11 rubenwardy hi all 18:12 VanessaE sfan5: completely :) 18:12 sfan5 hi rubenwardy 18:14 * rubenwardy just added a cake nodebox to food mod 18:17 celeron55 i don't like it that they call him the creator of nyan cat 18:18 VanessaE celeron55: it gets worse: 18:18 celeron55 he's the creator of the poptart cat; nyan cat is the poptart cat combined with the song 18:18 VanessaE it's no longer a pop tart - it's a "breakfast bar" 18:18 Jordach scuse me but, the song ISNT HIS 18:18 celeron55 but it's ridiculous that he lets the nyan cat videos be freely on the internet and then attacks every other use of the poptart cat 18:18 Jordach celeron55, ego. 18:19 Jordach he's become desparate 18:19 Jordach because no one uses nyan cat anymore 18:19 VanessaE and the guy believes he is owed somewhere north of 75 grand. 18:19 celeron55 well, it's fraud, and fraud is the best kind of business 8) 18:20 * rubenwardy just added a chocolate cake nodebox to the food mod 18:20 * VanessaE is looking at the referenced court document 18:20 celeron55 actually, there's no good word in english for the finnish non-offical term "kusetus" 18:20 VanessaE celeron55: what's the connotation of that word? 18:22 celeron55 it basically means fraud, spoofing and whatever, but has a tone of the thing being at the border of being legit, and also a very inappropriate tone 18:23 VanessaE gotchya 18:23 VanessaE I'm sure there's some colorful southern expression for that, e.g. hooey or so :-) 18:23 celeron55 probably 18:24 celeron55 my dictionaries don't really know of such :P 18:24 thexyz Jordach: dunno, they aren't 18:24 Jordach thexyz, i cant login with chrome 18:24 * rubenwardy just added a carrot cake nodebox to the food mod 18:24 thexyz Jordach: i can login with chromium 18:24 aheinecke A german would say the person doing "kusetus" is a "schweinehund" i guess :) 18:24 Jordach thexyz, try GOOGLE CHROME 18:24 thexyz Jordach: too much botnet 18:24 VanessaE celeron55: in other words, a complete load of bullshit :) 18:25 thexyz okay, I guess I can disable this antispam plugin 18:25 thexyz and enable another one 18:25 VanessaE why not just use recaptcha? that one seems successful 18:25 Jordach ^ 18:26 thexyz because FUCK RECAPTCHA 18:26 thexyz this is the most evil thing ever created 18:26 VanessaE heh, ok 18:26 rubenwardy the nodeboxes for the food mod: http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/food_nodeboxes2.png 18:26 thexyz fuck, i sometimes think i'm a bot because of recaptcha 18:27 VanessaE not bed, rubenwardy 18:27 VanessaE er, not bad, too 18:27 PilzAdam thexyz, if the internet says you are a bot, you are a bot; the internet is always right 18:27 thexyz we need new antispam question 18:27 thexyz (s) 18:29 Jordach rubenwardy, does the new nodeboxgen snap to each pixel 18:29 Jordach (on a 16x grid) 18:29 rubenwardy no, to quarters 18:29 Jordach tch 18:29 rubenwardy but it will do 18:29 Jordach it needs that 18:30 rubenwardy I will do that next :P 18:30 celeron55 thexyz: is there a reasonable way to eg. disallow posting links in a first post? 18:30 rubenwardy celeron55: I have a plugin on my forum to do that 18:30 PilzAdam celeron55, my first post was the carts mod with a download link 18:30 celeron55 altough, they'll work around that 18:30 rubenwardy "Fancy Stop SPAM 1.3.52" 18:31 VanessaE celeron55: imho no links in the first 10 posts. 18:31 celeron55 VanessaE: that encourages useless discussion 18:31 thexyz celeron55: > The minimum number of posts a user is required to write to be able to add a signature or a website link to his posts (pun_antispam extension). If the new value of the option is more than the old one, links and signatures of users with fewer posts than the new value will be cleared. 18:31 VanessaE celeron55: you really think a spammer is gonna stick around for that? 18:32 celeron55 no, and real users aren't either 18:32 thexyz rubenwardy: fancy stop spam is the reason chrome is banned 18:32 rubenwardy huh? 18:32 rubenwardy banned from what? 18:32 thexyz from our forums 18:33 sfan5 chrome is banned from the forums? 18:33 thexyz hm, I have 1.2.3 right now 18:33 thexyz sfan5: well, some users report it is 18:33 VanessaE celeron55: then do we want people on the forums who won't stick around for that? seems like a lame reason not to hang about 18:33 sfan5 thexyz: works fine for me 18:33 rubenwardy me too 18:33 celeron55 VanessaE: many people create a forum account only for releasing a mod or other stuff 18:33 Jordach windows users seem to get this 18:34 celeron55 that means there could be a limit of 10 posts before links, but it would allow common file-sharing sites and git portals? 18:34 thexyz ok, i'll try to update it 18:34 VanessaE that works for me. 18:34 celeron55 that's probably not possible with existing extensions 18:35 celeron55 but would be very useful 18:35 thexyz done 18:35 Jordach logged in at last 18:35 Jordach thexyz, hint: once im logged in: i dont ever log out 18:36 thexyz Jordach: does it work now? 18:36 Jordach yes 18:36 Jordach thank you 18:36 thexyz good 18:37 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=88097#p88097 18:37 thexyz we still need post history 18:37 VanessaE G*D YES 18:38 VanessaE (note to self: use preview more often to avoid cluttering said history in the future ;-) ) 18:38 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=88099#p88099 18:39 Jordach rubenwardy, post it to me 18:39 Jordach its worth nothing :) 18:39 rubenwardy hmm 18:39 rubenwardy I saw that 18:39 rubenwardy not even 1p for scrap parts? 18:40 Jordach it might make some money for the gold inside 18:40 Jordach but i doubt youll get anything 18:40 rubenwardy hmm 18:40 rubenwardy It was a gaming pc 18:40 rubenwardy top of the range at the time 18:41 rubenwardy at least my dad says so 18:41 Jordach irony 18:41 VanessaE I have an old laptop for sale also, fwiw. but, either I'm asking too much or the market is just shit :-) 18:41 Exio rubenwardy: what cpu/gpu? 18:41 rubenwardy no idea 18:42 Exio hm k 18:42 rubenwardy actually, i might be a celeron 18:42 rubenwardy *it 18:42 VanessaE think I'll go take a nap now. bbl. 18:42 thexyz guess there's no option but to write it then 18:43 thexyz or migrate to another forum engine 18:43 thexyz which is even better 18:43 thexyz > Last updated 4 months ago 18:45 Exio celeron and gaming pc? 18:45 Exio seems legit 18:46 rubenwardy these look more like custard creams than cakes: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=88095#p88095 18:46 rubenwardy it was not really a gaming pc 18:46 rubenwardy but it was top of the range in office pc 18:46 rubenwardy s 18:52 celeron55 windows 95 and 16MB of RAM has never been top of the range 18:52 rubenwardy true 18:52 celeron55 with win95 something like 64MB was high-end 18:53 Jordach celeron55, run win 95 on 8gb of ram 18:53 rubenwardy buy all 18:53 celeron55 buy :D 18:53 Jordach bye* 18:53 * celeron55 buys all 18:53 Jordach celeron55, im worth more than average :) 18:58 thexyz why aren't there any non-php forum apps? 18:58 Jordach because its the easiest 18:58 Jordach or go make your own 19:00 thexyz I've only found one decent so far http://misago-project.org/ 19:01 thexyz but > Misago is not production ready! Don't ever use it in anything thats anywhere close to production enviroment! 19:01 thexyz and the last commit is 1 month ago 19:03 PilzAdam thexyz, I wouldnt use Minetest is production either 19:03 PilzAdam so.... 19:03 PilzAdam *in 19:04 xming there are forum sw written in lang other than php 19:04 xming one of the speediest forum software is https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed 19:06 xming it's written in D and http://forum.dlang.org/ uses it to host a forum with 350K+ posts 19:09 thexyz oh, actually, last commit is 7 hours ago 19:22 sfan5 Total number of posts: 81,200 19:22 sfan5 ^ \o/ 19:26 thexyz sfan5: > Rows: 1,771,500 19:26 sfan5 may I ask how big a mysql dump is? 19:26 sfan5 *the 19:30 Jordach can i take a dump on your sql dump 19:30 khonkhortisan 3d printers print(dump(s)) 19:31 sfan5 Jordach: i'm sure bzip2recover won't work after you took a dump on my spl dump 19:32 Jordach sql* 19:32 thexyz sfan5: at the same page in admin panel it says "Size: 93.27 MB" 19:32 sfan5 notbad 19:33 Jordach \o/ 19:37 celeron55 it's surprising how few proper forum software there is 19:42 thexyz I'm already in love with it 19:42 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/7fSmJko.png 19:43 Jordach post scrollback 19:43 Jordach \O/ 20:00 Calinou Taoki[laptop]: people are using pony model again on xonotic vehicle server \o/ 20:00 Calinou been a while I didn't see it :P 20:00 sfan5 lawl 20:01 Jordach c55, My Little Computer: Git is Magic 20:01 Jordach ^ thats a little gem 20:01 Calinou heh 20:03 Jordach Calinou, i'm making a simple pack for minetest 20:05 Calinou heh, the pony sounds changed :P 20:07 Jordach Pony Play 20:07 Jordach :3 20:12 sfan5 if we had this dungeon generator in minetest http://tinykeep.com/dungen/ .... 20:13 * Calinou just trouted a pony 20:13 Calinou john_minetest: [mon] 20:23 * Jordach is having a hard time selecting musoc 20:23 Jordach music* 20:32 sdzen woo! farmtest-SDZ is now updated and almost works right! 20:36 Jordach sdzen, colour_blocks still alive? 20:37 sdzen yep! 20:37 sdzen works just fine 20:39 Kacey hey all 20:49 Jordach anyone up for a game of this: http://jsbombers.mine.bz/ 20:55 Jordach john_minetest, acl 20:55 Jordach ack, just closed the browser 20:56 Jordach ill be playing demonstar for a while 21:02 Kacey john_minetest, i am in that game 21:02 Kacey it crashed :( 21:05 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/f/xmZdo3wz 21:09 Kacey jsbombers is back up john_minetest 21:18 Jordach im watching jmf and kacey play 21:18 Kacey lol 21:21 Calinou john_minetest: didn't see anyone on [mon] :P 21:23 thexyz john_minetest: works for me 21:25 sfan5 good night 21:26 thexyz it sucks anyway 21:27 jojoa1997 hi all 21:30 Calinou gotta like the excuse 21:30 Calinou anyway, gtg, night :) 21:32 jojoa1997 is anyone good with the inventory and/or the new hud stuff? 21:34 jojoa1997 well anyways 21:35 jojoa1997 i got the hotbar to show 9 items and the inventory has 9 items but when i move the slot(what item i hold) the 9th item wont go in my hand 21:36 jojoa1997 can anyone help? 21:38 PilzAdam you problably need to hack the engine for that 21:38 PilzAdam *probably 21:38 jojoa1997 grr 21:39 jojoa1997 when you guys added the inventory hud thing you should have add a hotbar one too 21:43 Sketch2 This font is too tiny 21:44 Sketch2 Much better. 21:47 PilzAdam jojoa1997, do you add the hotbar as hotbar or as inventory list? 21:47 PilzAdam (I dont know much about the hud API) 21:47 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=qrQVFZx7XX4&feature=fvwp 21:49 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWsuzRmqDuw 21:50 jojoa1997 inventory 21:50 * PilzAdam watched a 10 hours version of this today 21:51 PilzAdam jojoa1997, well, apparently the hotbar_itemcount is hardcoded to 8 21:51 PilzAdam and it returns to 1 after that 21:53 jojoa1997 would hotbar_itemcount = 9 work? 21:53 PilzAdam yes, in src/hud.cpp:46 21:54 jojoa1997 pilzadam you should change that 21:55 Jordach there should be a lua controllable main inv sive 21:55 Jordach size* 21:55 Jordach for you can have like two slots, three slots etc 22:00 Exio VanessaE: ping? 22:03 STHGOM bye 22:11 jojoa1997 YES! 22:11 jojoa1997 i got redstone to only have one item 22:12 jojoa1997 pilzadam could you fix the hardcoded hotbar limit and merge it with github? 22:24 Exio jojoa1997: you can always try to learn C++, code that, and throw a pull request 22:25 Exio that would work faster than telling other people to do stuff 22:27 jojoa1997 Exio i just dont have the time 22:27 jojoa1997 i barely squeeze in lua 22:27 jojoa1997 let alone a new language but i will be learning this summer 22:28 PilzAdam Exio, this moment when you think that you learned c++ and submitted a pull request but a core dev tells you to GTFO with your nooby code... 22:29 Exio PilzAdam: ha 22:30 Jordach ive had some plans for a super fun game mode 22:30 jojoa1997 like what 22:30 Jordach not saying 22:32 Sketch2 Blacklight would equal super fun game mode 22:32 jojoa1997 so PilzAdam could you code it? 22:32 PilzAdam I havent done anything to the HUD API 22:32 PilzAdam ask kaeza, he seems to know it better 22:35 Kacey bbl 22:43 kahrl jojoa1997: it's basically a matter of changing hotbar_itemcount in hud.cpp 22:48 Jordach PilzAdam, http://ompldr.org/vaWI0MQ/minetest%20game%20plan.svg 22:48 Jordach thats my current game idea 22:49 Jordach (i plan on expanding the earlier ages) 22:49 jojoa1997 kahrl i dont know C++ 22:50 Sketch2 It's not that tough 22:50 Sketch2 Hop on to the YouTube channel AntiRTFM and you can pick up the basics in a couple days 22:51 kahrl jojoa1997: go to hud.cpp, look for hotbar_itemcount = 8, change to 10, recompile, ????, profit :) 22:51 kahrl now if you want to make it settable from lua it's more complicated 22:52 Jordach kahrl, at least youre back 22:54 kahrl I am and trying to kick some bug ass ;) 22:56 OnlyHuman hi does anyone know of good java website for modding? 22:57 Telek minetest=/= minecraft? 22:57 kahrl what's a java website? 22:57 kahrl jsp? 22:57 Kacey anyone know how to get past these surveys? 22:57 Sketch2 Ad block plus and element hiding helper 22:57 OnlyHuman son was hoping to learn how to mod using java 22:58 kahrl minetest mods use lua not java 22:58 jojoa1997 karhl i cant do that. this is for minitest which means everyone needs the change. it is better to allow the size to be changed by lua 22:58 OnlyHuman oh, ok thanks 22:58 jojoa1997 jojoa1997: go to hud.cpp, look for hotbar_itemcount = 8, change to 10, recompile, ????, profit :) 22:58 arsdragonfly Got an idea 22:58 Kacey Sketch2, i have abl but how do i get element hiding helper? 22:59 arsdragonfly what if all the GUI elements can load textures to alter their look? 22:59 arsdragonfly e.g. a button that looks different 23:01 Sketch2 Just look it up and install it. No reload necessary if I recall 23:02 Sketch2 Then you right click - inspect element - hide with ABP 23:05 Kacey http://linkz.it/dn3 to get past this... 23:08 Sketch2 Doesn't look like there's anything behind the survey when you delete it 23:10 jojoa1997 PilzAdam ping 23:10 PilzAdam pong 23:11 jojoa1997 i am adding your nether mod atm 23:13 Sketch3 I think you'd be better off looking at the page source and trying to find the redirect address 23:13 Sketch3 It obviously loads some page upon completion 23:20 PilzAdam bye 23:21 Exio 18050 root 20 0 6017M 5906M 24676 R 94.0 49.3 16:17.46 aptitude upgrade 23:21 Exio aptitude is awesome 23:21 Exio 6gb of ram usage 23:21 Sketch3 Apt? 23:22 Exio yep, debian6, upgrading to testing 23:22 Exio using aptitude because lazy 23:22 Sketch3 Ah. I've done that before. Testing is cool 23:23 Exio aptitude likes to eat ram 23:23 jojoa1997 what is math.floor 23:24 Exio https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+math+floor 23:24 Sketch3 Never checked. Always let computer be while running apt 23:24 Sketch3 Lmao Exio 23:25 Sketch3 For rounding numbers down 23:25 Exio Sketch3: it is taking a while for checking deps, that is why i chcked 23:26 Exio i'll use apt, and fuck aptitude 23:26 Telek Only use aptitude for downgrades, or places where apt isn't handling the package resolution well. That's what I used it for. 23:26 Sketch3 Ah. Yeah it takes a long-ass time to upgrade. Hour or 2 23:27 Exio not upgrading or download or dpkg 23:27 Exio open: 114487; closed: 183155; defer: 15208; conflict: 540 23:27 Telek Dang. 23:28 Exio yin those cases, apt would work better 23:28 Sketch3 math.ceil rounds up jojoa 23:28 Exio with a "damaged dpkg" system it wanted to remove my kernel for resolving the deps error(s) 23:28 Exio 1,978 B/s 19h 10min 47s 23:29 Exio oh, sh.. 23:29 Telek Niice. 23:29 Sketch3 19 hrs? Woo 23:29 Exio now it says 7 23:29 Telek say At 2k/s download speed. 23:30 Sketch3 Feck, its Fri, isn't it? 23:31 Telek Yepyep 23:31 Sketch3 Kids baseball practice. Totally wasn't watching time 23:32 jojoa1997 how do i set 2 functions for a tool with on_place 23:33 Sketch3 By the time I get there it'll be over. Gonna skip it for now 23:34 Sketch3 He'll be around and we can play some Sat / Sun 23:34 Sketch3 Define em both before you call em 23:36 Kacey hey i just got tf2! 23:37 jojoa1997 i do define them before calling 23:37 jojoa1997 Item "default:flint_and_steel" callback "on_place is not a function 23:38 jojoa1997 and i have another file(with the functions) load before this file 23:38 Sketch3 Dunno the format of on_place at the moment, would need to see an example 23:38 Sketch3 What file would I see it used? 23:39 Exio Kacey: tf2? 23:41 Sketch3 on("place",function(),function2()) 23:41 Sketch3 But you need to include stress in the depends.txt 23:43 jojoa1997 stress? 23:43 sdzen or maybe its a lack of? 23:43 Sketch3 forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4953 23:44 Sketch3 Dunno, that's how it looks to me 23:44 jojoa1997 on_place = on("place", netherport_activate, flintandsteel_set_fire), 23:46 Sketch3 No, the first on_place you have listed has to be the name of the block you intend to set down 23:47 Sketch3 Did you look at the page? 23:47 jojoa1997 no it is a function 23:48 jojoa1997 i am making the filint and steel do stuff when right_clicked 23:49 Sketch3 Well, they are functions then too 23:49 Sketch3 So put () after activate and fire 23:51 Sketch3 Eh. You're talking Lua tho. I'd need to see an example of something similar. 23:51 Sketch3 Gonna shower. Brb 23:51 jojoa1997 yeah i cant add that 23:52 jojoa1997 due to thexyz's license thingy i would need to link the stress mod to minitest which i refuse to due cause the game is meant to be one download not a bunch