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00:00 Exio i like that
00:00 kaeza Exio, s/religion/anything/
00:00 kaeza :P
00:00 Exio there are some respectful dicussions about l33t stuff
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00:47 VanessaE hi all.
00:49 kaeza hey V
00:50 VanessaE what'd I miss? :)
00:52 kaeza not much
00:52 kaeza just the usual offtopic discussions :P
00:53 kaeza people are getting bored of this
00:54 kaeza someone must feed the mindless masses with an amazing new mod :P
00:56 VanessaE heh
00:56 VanessaE and I thought I did that with moretrees.  wtf more do these nuts want??? :)
00:57 kaeza I want a car
00:57 VanessaE heh
00:57 kaeza (a virtual one)
00:57 * VanessaE hands kaeza a hot wheels car
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00:57 kaeza (and also a real one if it's not too much)
00:57 kaeza :P
00:58 sdzen1 why is jordan4ibanez banned?
00:58 VanessaE sdzen1: because he blanked a large number of his forum topics.
00:58 VanessaE which is expressly forbidden
00:58 VanessaE (I didn't do it though)
00:58 sdzen1 so wait... you cant remove tour stuff anymore?
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00:58 sdzen1 thats bullshoit
00:58 VanessaE sdzen1: you can't blank your posts.
00:58 VanessaE you can delete your downloads if you want
00:59 VanessaE but you can't blank out the content that pointed to them
00:59 Menche it is kinda annoying when people leave in a huff and delete everything they did
00:59 Menche which unfortunately is happening quite frequently now :(
00:59 sdzen1 I have blanked my posts before, why am I not banned?
00:59 sdzen1 in fact I asked for them to be removed
00:59 sdzen1 and they still exist
00:59 Menche I've blanked a post because i accidentally double-posted
01:00 VanessaE sdzen1: maybe because if you did, no one noticed or you only did a few - he did a bunch and ragequitted.
01:00 ShadowNinja We don't have editing history AFAIK, is there a plugin for that?
01:00 VanessaE ShadowNinja: good question
01:00 Menche of course, if someone leaves and deletes everything, he's probably not planning on coming back anyway
01:01 VanessaE deleting ones posts screws up the conversation and removes information that other people could perhaps use.
01:01 VanessaE nevermind whether the downloads still exist.
01:03 sdzen1 honestly if a person wnats out they should have all traces of them wiped
01:03 sdzen1 wants*
01:03 sdzen1 a clean slate
01:04 VanessaE maybe we should just disable everyone's ability to edit posts then if they've been replied to.
01:05 sdzen1 oh and VanessaE: you need the sounds to be mono for the sound to work right
01:05 VanessaE they are mono.
01:05 sdzen1 hmmm
01:05 sdzen1 then something is broken
01:05 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~$ file Minetest-Textures-and-mods/mods/homedecor/sounds/homedecor_door_close.ogg
01:05 VanessaE Minetest-Textures-and-mods/mods/homedecor/sounds/homedecor_door_close.ogg: Ogg data, Vorbis audio, mono, 44100 Hz, ~120000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I
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01:15 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/f/BP0G5egz
01:24 kaeza http://ifunny.mobi/p/f2Xfhi8J
01:24 kaeza IKR
01:57 kaeza random idea: add module music support. mods that provide background music (like ambience) and the new feature of main menu music could benefit from it
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02:35 kahrl kaeza: module music?
02:35 VanessaE s3m/xm/mod probably
02:35 kaeza ^
02:35 VanessaE or whatever's the current thing
02:36 VanessaE would be good for making really long-ass compositions that only need a few megs of space
02:36 VanessaE (I guess .it was the latest when it was still big)
02:36 kahrl ah a successor of midi then?
02:36 VanessaE sort of
02:36 kaeza all of technic ambience was converted from MODs to OGG
02:36 kaeza kahrl, exactly
02:36 VanessaE kahrl: basically, a collection of samples played at varying rates and for varying amounts of times
02:37 kahrl I first thought kaeza meant some kind of adaptive music format (which would also be cool)
02:37 kaeza except that it uses embedded digital samples
02:37 VanessaE kahrl: actually I think those were s3m's :-)
02:37 kaeza (instead f depending on the instruments on the cards/synthesisers)
02:37 VanessaE or we could do algorithmic music like on the Wii :)
02:37 sdzen1 nice idea kaeza! I was actually thinking if that would be a good thing in minetest
02:38 VanessaE it would fit in pretty well with the general "retro" feel MT is supposed ot have.
02:38 VanessaE to*
02:38 sdzen1 hehe
02:38 kaeza yup
02:38 sdzen1 its not supposed to feel like legos for adults?
02:38 kahrl I generally like the style of music in the ambience mod
02:38 sdzen1 damn we must be doing something wrong then
02:38 VanessaE sdzen1: well both :-)
02:39 VanessaE kahrl: most of it is by Skaven/FutureCrew or something like that
02:39 VanessaE (expressly licensed for use in MT, no less)
02:40 kaeza there's a good library I used a couple of times
02:40 VanessaE mikmod
02:41 VanessaE or what's the other one that audacious uses...
02:41 kaeza actually, I was thinking about DUMB
02:41 VanessaE modplug is the other
02:41 VanessaE DUMB?  not familiar with it
02:41 kaeza http://dumb.sf.net
02:42 kaeza well... it's a bit outdated
02:42 kaeza not sure about the status of the other options
02:43 kaeza "Thu Dec 96 2912: The first beta of libmikmod-3.3.x - libmikmod-3.3.1 is out." <-- wut
02:43 kaeza a library from da future!
02:43 VanessaE haha
02:44 VanessaE well now we know it'll survive for another 900 years :D
02:44 kahrl also an interesting fact that the months become longer in the future
02:45 VanessaE hah!
02:45 VanessaE I didn't even see that
02:45 kaeza lol
02:45 VanessaE whhhhaaaaatttt???  HDX menusplash doesn't work anymore!?!?!?
02:45 kaeza blame celeron
02:45 VanessaE G*D damn it
02:46 kaeza :D
02:46 VanessaE celeron55_: what the fuck man?
02:47 VanessaE I'll take out the "Minetest" footer if that matters, but the splash is supposed to be game-agnostic!
02:53 * VanessaE sighs
02:56 VanessaE especially for the *client*
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03:41 kaeza hrm
03:42 kaeza libmikmod3.x "stable" link links to a bad archive, and ubuntu repos have 2.x
03:43 kaeza additionally, SF.net has 3.1.x, while latest stable seems to be 3.2.x
03:45 kaeza I wonder how much stable is the "beta" version...
03:49 VanessaE use whatever comes with audacious on ubuntu, last time I used that, it worked fine
03:49 VanessaE (I use audacious all the time, but not the mod plugin)
03:54 kaeza hmm
03:54 kaeza will look into that
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04:10 [0gb_us] Who here likes ***cat pictures***?
04:10 [0gb_us] I found a cute one.
04:10 [0gb_us] http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af88/Archetype421/Kitten-kiss-wakes-dad_zps56b0d5e6.gif
04:13 * kaeza has a new phone wallpaper now :)
04:13 khonkhortisan my video skips a spot
04:14 [0gb_us] Yeah, is skips a spot. BUt it's still cute.
04:14 VanessaE [0gb_us]: awwwwwwww!
04:17 kaeza interesting: audacious just took a dump on me
04:17 kaeza err... dumped core
04:17 VanessaE heh, figures
04:17 khonkhortisan same thing
04:17 [0gb_us] Hmm. THat doesn't sound good.
04:17 VanessaE I suggest it, and it crashes for you
04:18 VanessaE I've got it playing right now, from my ABBA playlist.
04:18 kaeza ABBA :D
04:18 [0gb_us] I can't say I have much experience with it. I used it all of, what, once? SOmething like that.
04:19 [0gb_us] Hmm. I need to test my new music player, and see if it's as dysfunctional as the last.
04:19 kaeza what you using?
04:19 [0gb_us] I used to have to use the movie player to handle my music properly ...
04:19 [0gb_us] Not sure, new system. Let's see ....
04:20 [0gb_us] Gmusicbrowser.
04:20 kaeza audacious seems very lightweight
04:20 kaeza I used to use xmplay (for Windows under Wine)
04:20 kaeza almost 100% CPU usage even when idle
04:20 VanessaE audacious is formerly xmms aka x11-amp :-)
04:21 VanessaE (well, a fork thereof)
04:22 * kaeza wishes portable music players supported MOD playback :(
04:23 [0gb_us] It's looping .... How do I make it stop looping ...?
04:23 VanessaE cut it so that you have a straight piece of string?
04:23 VanessaE ;)
04:24 [0gb_us] That might work.
04:24 * VanessaE ducks and runs
04:24 * [0gb_us] opens his computer, and begins cutting wires
04:24 VanessaE no! shit not that o&*$(!#^&%*$!^#~&($EE~NO CARRIER
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04:26 khonkhortisan FATAL: No bootable medium found! System halted.
04:26 [0gb_us] Even worse, it switches songs if on an album with with multiple songs when the first song ends ....
04:26 [0gb_us] Why is it so hard to play one song one time, and stop?
04:26 khonkhortisan it's too smart for that
04:26 [0gb_us] Too smart to do what I want it to do?
04:27 khonkhortisan it does what it thinks you want it to do, not what you tell it to do
04:27 VanessaE for audacious, those settings are in the Playback menu ('stop after curent song' and 'repeat')
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04:27 [0gb_us] But there should be a setting to get it to do what I want.
04:27 kaeza1 HORY SHET! AUDACIOUS HAS PSF PLAYBACK!! :DDDDD
04:28 * [0gb_us] starts singing "Give Me All Your Love"
04:28 [0gb_us] YES! Found the setting.
04:29 VanessaE ABBA, "Does Your Mother Know"
04:29 [0gb_us] So unlike my last music player, this one may not be incompetent. Good.
04:34 [0gb_us] Oh, WHAT!? The setting resets when you start a new song. Just like the old music player ....
04:34 [0gb_us] So it IS incompetent ....
04:34 Infinity_69|away Bye audience!
04:36 VanessaE [0gb_us]: then set "no playlist advance"
04:37 [0gb_us] I don't think I have that option. I'll look for it again though.
04:40 [0gb_us] Yeah, it's not here.
04:41 [0gb_us] The only setting that works resets itself after every song.
04:42 [0gb_us] How hard is it to play one song one time without specifying EACH TIME that I STILL don't want to hear every song on the album in a loop?
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05:07 celeron55_ why not just make a playlist with one song
05:07 celeron55_ if you use playlists are music libraries, that's wrong
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05:22 [0gb_us] I have zero play lists.
05:23 [0gb_us] I try to play one song, and it wants to play the whole album.
05:23 [0gb_us] Creating a playlist for every individual song would be very time consuming, and cumbersome to work with.
05:24 [0gb_us] Besides, playlists with one song still loop. I always want to play one song one time. No looping, no lists, no anything.
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05:40 kaeza VanessaE, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=87969#p87969
05:41 kaeza at least this one is not one of those automated bots and actually has a mind (?)
05:42 kahrl don't think so
05:43 [0gb_us] Looks like a mindless bot to me.
05:43 [0gb_us] Some are designed to post in topics that contain certain words, to appear more relevant.
05:44 [0gb_us] Also, I found a hacky solution for my music issue. It works in my specific use case, but there should be a real setting, for people who want the setting AND use some of the more advanced features.
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06:42 aldobr hi all
06:42 aldobr kaeza1 are you online ?
06:42 kaeza1 no :P
06:42 aldobr i have a mod project
06:42 aldobr but i am too lazy to implement it
06:43 aldobr :P
06:43 aldobr its a left 4 minetest mod
06:43 aldobr create a zombie spawner
06:43 aldobr and nodes that work as level objectives
06:43 aldobr add your gun mod
06:44 aldobr and dissalow digging (except for level objective nodes)
06:44 aldobr take a premade map
06:44 aldobr and voila, left 4 minetest
06:44 aldobr players spawn at spawn
06:44 aldobr and have to work their way into each objective node, dig it and walk back to spawn
06:44 aldobr without getting killed by the zombies
06:44 aldobr what you think ?
06:45 kaeza those are some quite ambitious ideas
06:45 aldobr i want to try to reuse existing mods as possible
06:45 aldobr to cut the work to minimal
06:45 kaeza zombie spawner: adapt code from MOBF or peaceful_npc
06:46 kaeza not being able to dig: maptools
06:46 aldobr maps will have to be premade : ie, take redcrab server map and edit it to include objectives
06:46 aldobr for example
06:46 kaeza ehm...
06:46 aldobr i would love to kill zombies in my village
06:46 aldobr :P
06:48 aldobr maybe add my mint mod
06:48 aldobr and change the behaviour of selling machines
06:48 kaeza would be useful if you coded some of that stuff
06:48 aldobr instead of removing items from the machine inventory
06:48 aldobr itens are cloned at every sell
06:49 aldobr killed zombies drop coins
06:49 aldobr players take the coins to buy weapons and food
06:49 aldobr more coins = more powerfull weapons
06:50 aldobr zombies can open wooden doors
06:51 aldobr make a special steel door that cant be opened by zombies
06:51 aldobr place clobblestone buildings in stages
06:51 aldobr with steel doors
06:51 aldobr so players can enter those rooms and be safe
06:51 aldobr etc
06:51 aldobr what you think ?
06:52 kaeza cool story bro
06:52 kaeza though the ideas are nice, I don't see myself implementing any of it anytime soon
06:53 aldobr :(
06:53 aldobr me too
06:53 aldobr i am taking an eletromechanics course that is taking my skin out
06:56 aldobr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcjL_Cn_ZoE
06:56 aldobr this
06:56 aldobr :D
06:58 kaeza :|
07:03 aldobr bye all gotta sleep
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07:07 sbaugh minetest is great, but aren't these block textures a little low-resolution?
07:07 sbaugh also, why is it called minetest?
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07:16 sbaugh also, why are all the servers empty? how sad :(
07:17 celeron55_ this time of the day is quite quiet
07:17 sbaugh on irc, or on the servers?
07:17 celeron55_ everywhere
07:18 celeron55_ also, answer to both of your first questions: why not? 8)
07:18 sbaugh ah, okay, good, i was worried - it would be not wonderful if this wonderful effort was abandoned by players
07:19 sbaugh celeron55_: well, higher resolution dirt never hurt anyone! (also it looks lower resolution than in minecraft) is it a deliberate decision not to up the texture resolution, or am i missing something?
07:20 celeron55_ it's all the same resolution as minecraft uses (or at least used in the alpha days)
07:21 kahrl You have eaten 803423389 candies!
07:21 kahrl celeron55_: ^ I finally beat that game :D
07:21 celeron55_ kahrl: lol
07:21 sbaugh oh! i see - it's because i enabled anistropic filtering or *-linear filtering, obviously!
07:21 sbaugh so it looked blurry :)
07:21 celeron55_ sbaugh: those settings aren't very noob-friendly :P
07:21 sbaugh i should think before i enable things :)
07:22 celeron55_ should add a setting "disable minetest" so that people would think twice before checking every checkbox
07:22 sbaugh haha
07:23 sbaugh oh, i see, it looks much better now
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09:38 VanessaE morning Calinou
09:40 Calinou hi
09:47 * Calinou reached 250 comment karma on reddit
09:47 Calinou made a comment with 12 upvotes :D
09:48 VanessaE cool, I guess :)
09:48 VanessaE (I don't care much for reddit)
09:49 Calinou and some people are here for 9 months or so and have 10k comment karma :P
09:49 Calinou I post what I think, and not often, I get quite a lot of downvotes :>
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10:07 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:07 VanessaE morning PA
10:07 Calinou morning pulseaudio
10:08 VanessaE heh
10:08 * Calinou enables hyperthreading to reduce PilzAdam latency
10:08 Calinou oops
10:08 Calinou :)
10:08 PilzAdam wow
10:08 PilzAdam Im 80% faster now!
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10:11 PilzAdam VanessaE, wrong: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=87929#p87929
10:12 PilzAdam see my post at the bottom
10:12 VanessaE oh, didn't even see the flatland mod
10:12 VanessaE still, I've benchmarked moretrees and seen how slow snow mod is.  my comment stands.
10:12 VanessaE good catch though
10:13 VanessaE moved flatlands to old mod.
10:13 VanessaE mods*
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10:15 PilzAdam some moderator should go through Mod Releases and look for obsolete or not working mods
10:15 kaeza spam? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=87987#p87987
10:16 kaeza doesn't look like a real spammer though (see other posts)
10:16 PilzAdam the URL ends: "product.php"
10:16 VanessaE I dunno, two posts that look legit
10:16 VanessaE looks like a profiling app.
10:16 VanessaE I'll just nuke that one post for now.
10:17 VanessaE or topic.
10:17 celeron55_ i think that guy is just incredibly bad at english 8)
10:17 celeron55_ don't do that yet
10:17 VanessaE too late
10:18 VanessaE still have the content of the offending post if you wanna recreate it.
10:19 celeron55_ also the page he referred to is about a 100% open source thing
10:19 VanessaE "The enterprise-class monitoring solution for everyone" comes off as spam, to me
10:20 VanessaE it is GPL2 though..
10:20 Calinou "brought to you by OCZ"
10:21 VanessaE oh well, if he wants to be understood, he can either learn to string nouns and verbs together into some semblance of English, or speak in his native tongue in the appropriate section of the forum :-)
10:21 kaeza oe google translate it :)
10:21 kaeza or*
10:21 VanessaE kaeza: that probably *was* a good translate output :)
10:22 kaeza well... maybe :P
10:22 VanessaE google*
10:22 celeron55_ i guess you could note the reason with a PM to him
10:22 VanessaE sure
10:23 PilzAdam "Sorry that I deleted your topic, I thought it was spam. Though, it turned out that you are just stupid, sorry"
10:24 VanessaE "... your post regarding Zabbix was deleted from the forum because it looked like spam.  If this was in error, feel free to re-post it, but please use clear English.  If you are unable to do so, please use the "Discussion in other languages" section of the forum and speak there in your native language."
10:24 celeron55_ 8D more like "your question was not understandable in english and it looked like a spam advertisement"
10:25 VanessaE (a verbose way of saying what c55 said ;) )
10:25 celeron55_ but i mean, that company is from latvia and there's a slim chance that guy might be using it (or even working for them) and wants to add some capability for MT servers
10:26 celeron55_ ...it's incredibly stupid to not know more english than that in today's world though
10:26 VanessaE maybe.  still, I get plenty of spam reports on the forums, so what can I say? :-)
10:26 * VanessaE goes back to watching videos.
10:26 * celeron55_ says spam sucks
10:27 Calinou old news
10:27 kaeza new users shouldn't be allowed to post links
10:27 VanessaE agreed,.
10:27 Calinou imo, users with more than 10 posts shouldn't have antispam questions
10:27 kaeza in fact, don't allow new users to post text at all
10:27 VanessaE 10 posts and then you can add a link to somewhere.
10:27 kaeza that should solve the spam issue :P
10:27 Calinou VanessaE: already the case, no? "qwook" complained about not being able to post links
10:28 PilzAdam celeron55_, you know that you can leave that "/me says" away and just type what you want to say?
10:28 VanessaE Calinou: nope, even the first post can post a link, that's how most of the spam I get is.
10:28 PilzAdam everyone will read it as "celeron55_ says:"
10:28 * Calinou says: PilzAdam doesn't know what the power of /me is!
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10:29 tiin57 Does anyone think that Minetest would run well on a Pi?
10:30 VanessaE not even close.
10:30 VanessaE :)
10:30 tiin57 Oh
10:30 PilzAdam there is a youtube video where the server runs on a PI
10:30 PilzAdam (IIRC)
10:30 celeron55_ a server will run with a few players
10:30 VanessaE I think he means the client :)
10:30 tiin57 I mean a client :p Unless I can test Lua mods with a server.
10:31 celeron55_ well... the mods run on the server, but you kind of need the client to poke them
10:31 tiin57 Ok
10:32 celeron55_ MT can probably run on raspberry pi, but it's unusably slow
10:32 celeron55_ (the client)
10:32 celeron55_ it just doesn't have the CPU power required
10:32 tiin57 Ah
10:33 tiin57 I wonder. Would a vnc connection make it unusable?
10:33 tiin57 I've got a couple VPS's
10:33 Calinou "VPS", the thing where you have 600MHz of AMD CPU power which is used by bitcoin miners?
10:34 Calinou even the worst dedi is infinitely better than a VPS
10:34 tiin57 Nope, the thing where I've got 1.8ghz of Xeon and 2gb RAM
10:34 Calinou part of that xeon
10:34 Calinou not all the xeon
10:34 tiin57 Right.
10:34 Calinou and people constantly torrent/bitcoin mine on it
10:34 tiin57 :/
10:34 tiin57 It runs an MC server pretty well.
10:35 tiin57 And an irc bot.
10:35 Calinou if it does then you can run a MT server
10:35 Calinou but on some VPS, the CPU power is far from guaranteed, that's what I'm saying
10:35 tiin57 Ok
10:35 Calinou my channel list went boom in xchat ._.
10:36 Calinou found it! ctrl+I
10:36 Calinou have to go now
10:37 tiin57 Ok, well thanks!
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10:44 iqualfragile is somebody here willing and able to do some css related work to help me with a minetest-related project?
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11:13 kaeza random small update: http://youtu.be/48JRBniUJyY
11:15 kaeza (also showing a new HQ font with smooth (?) edges)
11:24 Calinou lol, got spam on a 1 month thread about netbooks
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11:36 Infinity_69 who uses Xubuntu?!
11:36 Infinity_69 i need a pre-compiled build!
11:36 Calinou HIGH FIVE!
11:36 Infinity_69 i386
11:36 Calinou nope.
11:36 Infinity_69 :)
11:36 Calinou amd64 for the win
11:36 Infinity_69 :o
11:37 Infinity_69 who uses Xubuntu i386
11:37 Calinou 32 bit is obsolete today
11:37 Infinity_69 yeah, i dont give a shit!
11:37 Infinity_69 :D
11:37 Infinity_69 WOW
11:37 Infinity_69 it made shit into shit :D
11:37 VanessaE Infinity_69: if your machine is less than ~10 years old, it can run AMD64 I'm sure
11:37 * Calinou gives Infinity_69 an handful of chill pills
11:38 Calinou VanessaE: any decent CPU from > 2006 can run 64 bit :P
11:38 VanessaE close enough.
11:40 * xming has a 20 years old CPU (frome 1993) which can run in 64-bit
11:43 Calinou ö_ö
11:43 Calinou nope
11:43 Calinou 64 bit was invented in 2004 or so by AMD
11:43 Calinou as in, x86_64
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12:00 kaeza jojoa surpassed PilzAdam in number of posts O.O
12:01 VanessaE he's a posting fool :)
12:03 xming Calinou: AMD didn't invented 64-bit, AMD implemtent 64-bit for x86 first
12:03 xming there are tons of 64-bit CPUs before x86_64
12:04 xming like Dec Alpha, Sparc64, PaRISC, PowerPC64, ...
12:05 celeron55_ and there was intel's 64-bit extension for servers or something for x86
12:05 celeron55_ but then amd's catched on and everyone follows that architecture now
12:06 xming and 64-bits is slowere than 32-bit on most archs except on x86, because the shortage of registers is addressed in x86_64
12:07 xming yeah Intel canned x86_64 in favour of Itanic
12:08 xming and later had to implement amd64 as x86_64, I guess that they weren't happy about that :D
12:10 xming sigh and after 30 years we are still stuck with x86
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12:23 jojoa1997 PilzAdam: please make a new build
12:23 PilzAdam what has changed?
12:23 jojoa1997 pretty please with what ever you want on top(what do you like?)
12:24 jojoa1997 um look at the changes on github
12:24 jojoa1997 i really want to see this new menu stuff
12:27 Calinou xming: ARM is still too slow to be usable on desktop :3
12:27 Calinou if ARM had same computing power as x86 it would use more electricity
12:28 Calinou RISC has its limits
12:28 xming Calinou: my 20 year old 64-bit is also very slow, 300Mhz :p
12:28 Calinou 3400mhz quad core here :trollface: and I could go to 4600mhz or so if I wanted
12:29 xming x86 won before of scale and superior fabs of Intel
12:29 xming s/before/because
12:32 xming and compatibility
12:33 * jojoa1997 wonders if he will see a build from PilzAdam
12:34 xming what is so difficult to compile it?
12:34 sfan5 jojoa1997: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.6-0deb68d-win32.7z
12:34 jojoa1997 long story but i can't no questions needed.
12:34 jojoa1997 sfan is that for today's stuff?
12:35 sfan5 yes
12:35 sfan5 built 2 mins ago
12:35 * jojoa1997 steals it
12:35 jojoa1997 awe sweet you gave me a direct loink
12:35 jojoa1997 link
12:39 jojoa1997 it is nice except i cant see the nmaes of the games in it
12:39 sfan5 lyrics of what i'm currently hearing: wub wub wub wub
12:40 jojoa1997 wub wub wub wub wubw ubw ubw wubhw wubw wub wub wubw uw wubw wbw wub wub wubw ubw wubhw wubw forget it
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12:44 kaeza Calinou, excellent reply to onpon
12:45 kaeza seriously, I'm getting fed up with these GNU zealots
12:45 * VanessaE throws some GPL text at kaeza
12:46 kaeza VanessaE, http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
12:46 VanessaE :)
12:46 Calinou kaeza: updated it a bit
12:47 Calinou for fun I've done a "decent-ified" version of the 14" laptop: $1714 (i7-3517U, matte screen, 180GB SSD, 3 year warranty, 8GB of RAM)
12:48 Calinou on the desktop side, for that money, I can make a PC with a 3930K (hexacore), or a 3770K + titan (for about $100 more)
12:48 kaeza :D
12:48 kaeza btw, $276 ?
12:49 Calinou $276 on the "royal" laptop is difference between pentium and i5, iirc
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12:49 kaeza that's what costed my E5700 Dual Core :(
12:49 Calinou well you can get a 3770 (non-K) for the same price
12:49 Calinou more than twice as powerful
12:49 Calinou also, there's no option for 1600×900 (good for 13/15") or 1920×1080 (best for 17", although they don't have any 17"s)
12:49 Calinou and... 180$ just for matte screen, wtf?
12:50 kaeza we have 5 yrs old hardware at -5 yrs old price
12:50 Calinou lastly, you have no idea what's the SSD, 180GB SSD costs $250
12:50 Calinou for $250 I can get a 256GB 840 pro (a pretty good one)
12:50 Calinou even less, it's more like $200 today
12:50 kaeza E5700 Dual Core @ 3.1GHz, 500GB disk, 4GB RAM
12:50 Calinou and of course, you can't order your laptop without RAM/storage (so that you can put some yourself)
12:51 Calinou other "customisers" such as clevo let you do that
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12:51 john_minetest External HDD drives are so cheap now. 3TB for 85€.
12:51 kaeza actually, ~8000 $UY (roughly $400)
12:51 Calinou john_minetest: and slow 8)
12:51 Calinou also, no 3TB costs 85€, internal 3TBs usually cost 110€ at least
12:52 Calinou and internal is much cheaper than external
12:53 Calinou also, "built-in audio", for the price I'd like to have decent audio, as far as I know, only apple hardware has decent built-in speakers.
12:53 jojoa1997 how would i make locked chests become chests but keep the inventory
12:53 Calinou I doubt it is on think penguin laptops :P
12:53 Calinou jojoa1997: not sure if you can
12:54 john_minetest http://www.preisjaeger.de/42214/media-markt-externe-festplatte-3-5-3tb-usb3-0-fur-99e/
12:54 john_minetest ^German. 99€ for 3TB
12:54 jojoa1997 well then i will give minitesters 2 weeks to move their stuff into locked chests and i will make a on jion playher notice for people to be reminded
12:54 john_minetest And I have seen one for ~85 in a tv spot a few days ago
12:54 Calinou ads about HDDs on TV? I never saw any in france :P
12:55 john_minetest It was an ad for a huge electronics market.
12:55 john_minetest Like MediaMarkt or expert.
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12:58 john_minetest External HDD with USB3 is often faster than internal HDD.
12:58 Calinou lol no
12:59 Calinou first, very few external HDDs are 7200rpm
12:59 john_minetest Okay, it depends what HDDs are used.
12:59 Calinou sata's speed is 6Gb/s and can actually be reached, unlike USB 3.0's hypothetical 5Gb/s
12:59 Calinou my SSD reads at 525MB/s in sequential
12:59 john_minetest It was IDE vs USB3.0 iirc
12:59 VanessaE a bit over twice the speed mine is
13:00 iqualfragile yeah, ide is another deal
13:00 Calinou it fell at 480MB/s after backing up my /home to it, TRIM isn't enabled yet
13:00 Calinou still pretty nice
13:01 jojoa1997 VanessaE i someone made a dokucraft texture pack that has minitest support :-D
13:01 VanessaE cool
13:01 Calinou also, about think penguin: "Enjoy your Penguin without the glare. Reflective, high-glare screens that are on modern consumer-grade laptops are horrible for portable machines designed to be outdoors and in sunlight. Fix it with a matte screen upgrade."
13:01 Calinou they're telling you to upgrade the base design, sounds very "consumerist"
13:01 john_minetest Mine has about 15 MB/s. Just tested this by copying stuff, I should do a benchmark...
13:02 john_minetest Mine =  my internal HDD. But it's a laptop HDD.
13:02 Calinou my 2TB 7200rpm HDD reads 129MB/s
13:02 Calinou RAM = 14367MB/s
13:02 Calinou laptop HDDs are 2.5" = slower
13:02 Calinou and often 5400rpm, except on high end laptops
13:02 * john_minetest stacks ram now
13:02 Calinou hdparm -Tt /dev/sda
13:02 Calinou with sudo
13:02 Calinou use this to test ;)
13:02 iqualfragile john_minetest: wont help if you are not using linux
13:03 john_minetest Unfortunately my linux laptop died some time ago and I was to lazy to fix it.
13:03 Calinou my old laptop doesn't spin one of its fans iirc
13:03 Calinou graphic card reaches 102°C in load *broken teeth*
13:03 Calinou but still works nice 8)
13:03 xming your SSD is faster than the RAM of my Sparc64 :D
13:06 john_minetest http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oHvuPuZ69Lo/TgyjpUkB8KI/AAAAAAAAA6w/a2ik9qXZGtU/s1600/this+is+sata.jpg
13:06 iqualfragile i finaly got my fan to spinn with less then 100%
13:08 Calinou lol
13:11 Calinou kaeza: fun fact, at clevo I made a similar build (but with better screen and much better graphics card)... when you add a SSD yourself, it would cost about $1500
13:11 Calinou $220 less expensive and much better *broken teeth*
13:14 jojoa1997 i know of a computer that is free but has more power than a super comouter
13:15 iqualfragile no, pregnancy is not free
13:16 jojoa1997 not that
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13:16 jojoa1997 YOUR MIND> THE BRAIN! !!ME!!
13:16 jojoa1997 wow that is the perfect thing to join to
13:17 kaeza iqualfragile, lol
13:17 Evil_Zombie BRAINZZZZ
13:17 kaeza oh, Calinou left :(
13:18 jojoa1997 brb
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13:50 Infinity_69 hi
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13:52 BlockMen hi
13:53 iqualfragile http://www.youtube.com/user/BriTANicKdotcom i can just recommend that channel
13:56 kaeza hey BlockMen
13:59 Infinity_69 hi Kaeza, happy birthday!
14:00 Infinity_69 i put a Yo Dawg... meme on the topic earlier, but it got removed...
14:00 kaeza Infinity_69, thanks :)
14:00 kaeza but it was 3 days ago xD
14:00 iqualfragile kaeza: carefull there, too many birthays might be deadly
14:01 Infinity_69 srsly?!
14:01 Infinity_69 yeah...
14:01 Infinity_69 >:D
14:01 kaeza Infinity_69, no point in not doing stupid things in life... you won't get alive from it anyway
14:02 Infinity_69 gonna cheat on a "How fast can you click in X seconds" game/app :D
14:02 kaeza inb4 mouse died :)
14:04 kaeza derp...
14:04 kaeza iqualfragile, that quote was for you :P
14:04 kaeza tab completion phail :|
14:06 iqualfragile shocking study reveals: we are all going to die, police expects mass panic
14:11 BlockMen wtf?! -> http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=87845#p87845
14:12 BlockMen oh..hi kaeza
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14:19 Zeg9 Hi
14:21 kaeza hey zeg
14:21 Zeg9 Hi kaeza, new image ? :D
14:22 kaeza ಠ_ಠ
14:22 kaeza :P
14:23 Zeg9 Unicode fail... Let me check my settings
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14:24 Infinity_69 hi
14:24 Zeg9 ompload won't work -_-
14:24 kaeza try Dropbox
14:25 john_minetest hi Zeg9
14:25 Zeg9 Hey jmf
14:25 Infinity_69 hi jmf
14:25 Zeg9 Dropbox needs registering, I am too lazy
14:25 Zeg9 I'll do on imgur
14:27 Zeg9 I died
14:27 Zeg9 http://imgur.com/PMHJyHw
14:27 Zeg9 Infinity_69, john_minetest ^
14:28 Infinity_69 ok, whats the point of that?
14:28 Zeg9 Well, that's a mob...
14:28 Infinity_69 oh...
14:28 Infinity_69 so thats why lava has a face
14:28 kaeza Zeg9, awesome :D
14:29 Zeg9 The animation is epic
14:29 john_minetest http://imgur.com/gallery/WVqhv5z <- lol
14:29 Infinity_69 Lava Cube (MC) == Flan (MT)
14:29 Zeg9 I'll reduce the spawn rates and upload it
14:30 Zeg9 My lava lakes are weird since I tried the indev mapgen...
14:32 BlockMen bbl
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14:36 jojoa1997 what am i doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/B0vTUSf0
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14:45 Infinity_69 hi OldCoder :D
14:46 OldCoder Infinity_69, Hi!
14:46 kaeza jojoa1997, position = {x=1, y=1.0} <-- you are positioning the hotbar at the bottom-right corner
14:46 kaeza hello OldCoder
14:48 jojoa1997 but it still doesnt show 9 inventory spots
14:48 OldCoder kaeza, I wish to speak more in the future
14:48 kaeza OldCoder, sure :)
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15:11 KikaRz Hello
15:12 KikaRz Who can give me a Free MySQL hosting with the following permissions: SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE, CREATE?
15:12 jojoa1997 ok so i have gotten the hotbar to work but the red outline doesnt show does anyone have any idea how to do that. and i want the red outline to show on what the player is holding
15:12 Jordach KikaRz, host1free
15:12 KikaRz Jordach, nope.
15:12 KikaRz That don't works.
15:13 Jordach tch
15:13 KikaRz It has only UPDATE permission
15:13 Jordach no clue
15:13 KikaRz as the another ones.
15:14 KikaRz and what's clue?
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15:22 KikaRz Jordach, i've tried host1free, it says "localhost" as hostname, but I can't use that.
15:24 RealBadAngel localhost is your computer, its LOCAL ;)
15:24 RealBadAngel 127.0.0.1
15:25 PilzAdam no
15:25 PilzAdam 127.0.0.2
15:26 khonkhortisan I have both
15:27 PilzAdam I have 16 million more
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15:29 sfan5 127.0.0.0/8
15:29 KikaRz Oh! THANKS!!!
15:29 KikaRz :D
15:30 sfan5 holy madda of fuck! my python socks5 server works
15:32 Calinou lol'd @ game icons
15:32 * Calinou thinks he made everyone ragequit at sky hardcore
15:34 Jordach holy fuck
15:34 * Calinou updated the changelog: http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog
15:34 Jordach in art today, we ended up dueling with wooden spoons
15:35 Calinou wooden shovels suck at PvP, they don't do additional damage over fist
15:35 PilzAdam Calinou, lol, wrong
15:35 KikaRz Calinou, are you joking
15:35 KikaRz ?
15:35 sfan5 Jordach: lol
15:35 KikaRz It's 2014 April First day ?
15:36 KikaRz Added snow, snowblock, ice and dirt_with_snow (PilzAdam)
15:36 KikaRz It's snow falling from sky?
15:38 PilzAdam Calinou, http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=Changelog&amp;diff=1237&amp;oldid=1236
15:38 PilzAdam ^ learn from it
15:41 jojoa1997 https://www.dropbox.com/s/89jus7wr86m1kvv/screenshot_10223065.png
15:41 jojoa1997 armor is here!
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15:41 Jordach -10
15:42 jojoa1997 jordach you dont have to download the mod
15:43 kaeza wow my player armor demo video has 137 views :D
15:43 jojoa1997 what do other non grumpy face people(jordach) think about it
15:43 PilzAdam -10 *trollface*
15:44 * jojoa1997 places the new tnt on PilzAdam
15:44 rubenwardy shame about jordan
15:45 rubenwardy My latest thing: Craft Recipe checker - A tool for debuging mods: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5831
15:45 rubenwardy see my signature: http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=2051
15:47 jojoa1997 !up sunrisetest.no-ip.org
15:47 MinetestBot sunrisetest.no-ip.org:30000 is up (0.227ms)
15:47 arsdragonfly Can I simply reload the original register_craft function?
15:48 rubenwardy just replace all "minetest.register_craft(" with "mod.recipe("
15:48 arsdragonfly so that I don't need to replace the functions in the lua files respectively
15:48 PilzAdam rubenwardy, why do you make it so complicated?
15:48 rubenwardy when it is not in debug mode, mod.recipe( is an alisas for minetest.register_craft(
15:49 rubenwardy because there is not minetest.register_craft in builtin.lua
15:49 rubenwardy (so I can not replace that)
15:49 PilzAdam you can
15:49 rubenwardy and there is no minetest.registered_crafts
15:50 rubenwardy I can replace it, but then It would not work
15:50 kaeza wasn't there a pull request for minetest.registered_crafts floating around somewhere?
15:51 PilzAdam https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/5510206
15:51 rubenwardy ...
15:51 rubenwardy (4:50:18 PM) rubenwardy: I can replace it, but then It would not work
15:51 Exio Node placement prediction now accounts for "facedir" and does only replace buildable_to nodes (kahrl & ShadowNinja)
15:51 Exio facedir?
15:51 rubenwardy how would the craft stuff be inserted?
15:51 arsdragonfly Is it possible to save the old function to a local variable and reload it with the new mod.recipe() in builtin.lua?
15:51 Exio i only see wallmounted nodes prediction
15:52 rubenwardy ah
15:52 Exio https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/777ac58f85c74d2945886869e9b63b0f450ac3aa#L0R834
15:52 rubenwardy now that is clever
15:52 PilzAdam Exio, fixed
15:52 rubenwardy thanks guy
15:52 Exio kk
15:52 rubenwardy s
15:53 PilzAdam rubenwardy, lets just hope that Lua functions are not call by reference
15:53 PilzAdam otherwise we have a little problem
15:55 rubenwardy It appears to work
15:55 PilzAdam then only tables are call by reference
15:55 thexyz sincerely, I don't believe it was a very good idea http://i.imgur.com/XCNUajM.png
15:57 PilzAdam thexyz, it does look better if all buttons have icons
15:57 arsdragonfly What's that in the bottom left corner?
15:58 PilzAdam game filter
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15:59 arsdragonfly what's that? @_@
16:00 Jordach wtf
16:00 Jordach why does photoshop load faster than gimp
16:01 thexyz Jordach: why do you think gimp should load faster?
16:01 Jordach because open source
16:02 kaeza > gtk, > faster
16:02 kaeza wut
16:02 rubenwardy It works
16:03 rubenwardy but it does not work with groups, ie: group:wool
16:03 rubenwardy arsdragonfly: I have updated it now
16:03 rubenwardy install it as a common mod, or just as a plain mod
16:04 Calinou GIMP loads faster than PS for me (from what I've seen on other people's PCs)
16:04 arsdragonfly The reload way? lol
16:04 kaeza rubenwardy, you may find this useful: http://pastebin.com/26sidLdB
16:05 rubenwardy how fast is that?
16:06 kaeza no real benchmarks, sorry
16:07 rubenwardy would
16:07 rubenwardy #get_items_in_group(groupname)==0
16:07 rubenwardy work
16:07 Jordach Calinou, Photoshop Elements 10 to be exact
16:08 kaeza rubenwardy, nope :/
16:08 kaeza in this case, if you want to check if the table is empty, use next()
16:09 kaeza local t = get_items_in_group("bleh"); if (next(t)) then ... end
16:09 kaeza (or adapt it to use an array instead of a map)
16:10 Calinou lol, PSE sucks :P
16:10 Calinou GIMP is far better than PSE :P
16:11 Jordach Calinou, lighter too
16:11 Jordach i actually watched gimp crash on a network before
16:11 Jordach fuck querying plugins
16:12 rubenwardy I think it works
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16:15 rubenwardy actually, I think I know why it does not work properly
16:16 rubenwardy it looks for group:wood = x rather than wood=x
16:16 rubenwardy works now
16:17 rubenwardy PilzAdam: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=88069#p88069
16:24 jojoa1997 Jordach with your minecraft rtexture pack
16:24 jojoa1997 you were right with the jungle leaves but those bulb things are like a gren slightly yellow
16:25 kaeza old topic bumped: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=88074#p88074
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16:34 PilzAdam jojoa1997, heres a icon for MiniTest: http://s14.postimg.org/58w4yrq7x/icon.png
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16:40 khonkhortisan Red wool drops into stone tile just by my looking at it - lag is annoying
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16:42 jojoa1997 PilzAdam why would i need that icon?
16:42 PilzAdam for the new menu?
16:43 jojoa1997 ?
16:43 jojoa1997 oh
16:43 jojoa1997 how do i set it to be in the new menu?
16:44 PilzAdam see minimal
16:44 jojoa1997 you go a background for me?
16:45 PilzAdam no
16:45 jojoa1997 ok i have one
16:46 jojoa1997 coulod i have multiple backgrounds
16:46 PilzAdam dont use backgrounds
16:46 jojoa1997 why not :P
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16:49 Zeg9 PilzAdam: could you add on_step to mob definition in simple mobs?
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16:50 PilzAdam sure
16:50 PilzAdam why do you need it?
16:50 Zeg9 I want a mob to let lava behind him when it walks
16:51 rubenwardy that recipe script is so useful
16:51 rubenwardy found 6 errors in my food mod
16:51 rubenwardy (from when i separated it into a modpack)
16:53 * Calinou is on markveidemanis' server
16:53 Calinou people talk to me in spanish
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16:54 kaeza bbl
16:59 jojoa1997 PilzAdam how would i get the moving clouds to work behind a background
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17:01 PilzAdam dunno
17:01 PilzAdam dont use backgrounds for MiniTest
17:01 jojoa1997 why not
17:01 jojoa1997 i already have a good one
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17:11 Calinou behind a background?
17:11 Calinou isn't that a bit backwards
17:13 sfan5 yep
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17:15 PilzAdam New windows build: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547
17:15 PilzAdam builds will be uploaded here from now on: https://www.dropbox.com/home/Minetest%20win32%20builds
17:15 PilzAdam * https://www.dropbox.com/sh/am3ddzfm8qxz9w0/VlbFIebGBK
17:18 rubenwardy added alias checking to https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/5504537
17:19 Exio Calinou: what did they say?
17:19 PilzAdam rubenwardy, why do you do "~= true"?
17:20 rubenwardy not equals to true
17:20 rubenwardy og
17:20 rubenwardy *oh
17:20 rubenwardy is nil == false?
17:20 PilzAdam not exactly
17:20 khonkhortisan not quite
17:20 khonkhortisan but not variable checks for both nil and false
17:21 PilzAdam but you can leave ~= true away
17:21 PilzAdam +and add not
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17:25 Evergreen Hi
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18:05 Jordach thexyz, why is chrome and webkit based browsers blocked from logging in
18:05 Jordach last time i checked, chrome is the most used browser in the world; not to mention now allowing new members with chrome cant be part of the community
18:05 Jordach because of that bot check
18:06 VanessaE http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/13/05/03/1749258/warner-bros-sued-by-meme-creators-over-copyright-infringement
18:06 VanessaE HAH!
18:06 VanessaE Nyan Cat dude sues WB over trademark infringement
18:06 VanessaE priceless
18:06 Jordach NO WAY
18:06 VanessaE way.
18:07 Jordach you do realise hes just egotistical
18:07 Jordach like most internet users that get popular
18:07 VanessaE yup
18:07 Jordach eg, skydoesmc
18:08 Jordach the list goes on
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18:11 sfan5 VanessaE: epic
18:11 rubenwardy hi all
18:12 VanessaE sfan5: completely :)
18:12 sfan5 hi rubenwardy
18:14 * rubenwardy just added a cake nodebox to food mod
18:17 celeron55 i don't like it that they call him the creator of nyan cat
18:18 VanessaE celeron55: it gets worse:
18:18 celeron55 he's the creator of the poptart cat; nyan cat is the poptart cat combined with the song
18:18 VanessaE it's no longer a pop tart - it's a "breakfast bar"
18:18 Jordach scuse me but, the song ISNT HIS
18:18 celeron55 but it's ridiculous that he lets the nyan cat videos be freely on the internet and then attacks every other use of the poptart cat
18:18 Jordach celeron55, ego.
18:19 Jordach he's become desparate
18:19 Jordach because no one uses nyan cat anymore
18:19 VanessaE and the guy believes he is owed somewhere north of 75 grand.
18:19 celeron55 well, it's fraud, and fraud is the best kind of business 8)
18:20 * rubenwardy just added a chocolate cake nodebox to the food mod
18:20 * VanessaE is looking at the referenced court document
18:20 celeron55 actually, there's no good word in english for the finnish non-offical term "kusetus"
18:20 VanessaE celeron55: what's the connotation of that word?
18:22 celeron55 it basically means fraud, spoofing and whatever, but has a tone of the thing being at the border of being legit, and also a very inappropriate tone
18:23 VanessaE gotchya
18:23 VanessaE I'm sure there's some colorful southern expression for that, e.g. hooey or so :-)
18:23 celeron55 probably
18:24 celeron55 my dictionaries don't really know of such :P
18:24 thexyz Jordach: dunno, they aren't
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18:24 Jordach thexyz, i cant login with chrome
18:24 * rubenwardy just added a carrot cake nodebox to the food mod
18:24 thexyz Jordach: i can login with chromium
18:24 aheinecke A german would say the person doing "kusetus" is a "schweinehund" i guess :)
18:24 Jordach thexyz, try GOOGLE CHROME
18:24 thexyz Jordach: too much botnet
18:24 VanessaE celeron55: in other words, a complete load of bullshit :)
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18:25 thexyz okay, I guess I can disable this antispam plugin
18:25 thexyz and enable another one
18:25 VanessaE why not just use recaptcha?  that one seems successful
18:25 Jordach ^
18:26 thexyz because FUCK RECAPTCHA
18:26 thexyz this is the most evil thing ever created
18:26 VanessaE heh, ok
18:26 rubenwardy the nodeboxes for the food mod: http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/food_nodeboxes2.png
18:26 thexyz fuck, i sometimes think i'm a bot because of recaptcha
18:27 VanessaE not bed, rubenwardy
18:27 VanessaE er, not bad, too
18:27 PilzAdam thexyz, if the internet says you are a bot, you are a bot; the internet is always right
18:27 thexyz we need new antispam question
18:27 thexyz (s)
18:29 Jordach rubenwardy, does the new nodeboxgen snap to each pixel
18:29 Jordach (on a 16x grid)
18:29 rubenwardy no, to quarters
18:29 Jordach tch
18:29 rubenwardy but it will do
18:29 Jordach it needs that
18:30 rubenwardy I will do that next :P
18:30 celeron55 thexyz: is there a reasonable way to eg. disallow posting links in a first post?
18:30 rubenwardy celeron55: I have a plugin on my forum to do that
18:30 PilzAdam celeron55, my first post was the carts mod with a download link
18:30 celeron55 altough, they'll work around that
18:30 rubenwardy "Fancy Stop SPAM 1.3.52"
18:31 VanessaE celeron55: imho no links in the first 10 posts.
18:31 celeron55 VanessaE: that encourages useless discussion
18:31 thexyz celeron55: > The minimum number of posts a user is required to write to be able to add a signature or a website link to his posts (pun_antispam extension). If the new value of the option is more than the old one, links and signatures of users with fewer posts than the new value will be cleared.
18:31 VanessaE celeron55: you really think a spammer is gonna stick around for that?
18:32 celeron55 no, and real users aren't either
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18:32 thexyz rubenwardy: fancy stop spam is the reason chrome is banned
18:32 rubenwardy huh?
18:32 rubenwardy banned from what?
18:32 thexyz from our forums
18:33 sfan5 chrome is banned from the forums?
18:33 thexyz hm, I have 1.2.3 right now
18:33 thexyz sfan5: well, some users report it is
18:33 VanessaE celeron55: then do we want people on the forums who won't stick around for that?  seems like a lame reason not to hang about
18:33 sfan5 thexyz: works fine for me
18:33 rubenwardy me too
18:33 celeron55 VanessaE: many people create a forum account only for releasing a mod or other stuff
18:33 Jordach windows users seem to get this
18:34 celeron55 that means there could be a limit of 10 posts before links, but it would allow common file-sharing sites and git portals?
18:34 thexyz ok, i'll try to update it
18:34 VanessaE that works for me.
18:34 celeron55 that's probably not possible with existing extensions
18:35 celeron55 but would be very useful
18:35 thexyz done
18:35 Jordach logged in at last
18:35 Jordach thexyz, hint: once im logged in: i dont ever log out
18:36 thexyz Jordach: does it work now?
18:36 Jordach yes
18:36 Jordach thank you
18:36 thexyz good
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18:37 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=88097#p88097
18:37 thexyz we still need post history
18:37 VanessaE G*D YES
18:38 VanessaE (note to self:  use preview more often to avoid cluttering said history in the future ;-) )
18:38 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=88099#p88099
18:39 Jordach rubenwardy, post it to me
18:39 Jordach its worth nothing :)
18:39 rubenwardy hmm
18:39 rubenwardy I saw that
18:39 rubenwardy not even 1p for scrap parts?
18:40 Jordach it might make some money for the gold inside
18:40 Jordach but i doubt youll get anything
18:40 rubenwardy hmm
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18:40 rubenwardy It was a gaming pc
18:40 rubenwardy top of the range at the time
18:41 rubenwardy at least my dad says so
18:41 Jordach irony
18:41 VanessaE I have an old laptop for sale also, fwiw.  but, either I'm asking too much or the market is just shit :-)
18:41 Exio rubenwardy: what cpu/gpu?
18:41 rubenwardy no idea
18:42 Exio hm k
18:42 rubenwardy actually, i might be a celeron
18:42 rubenwardy *it
18:42 VanessaE think I'll go take a nap now.  bbl.
18:42 thexyz guess there's no option but to write it then
18:43 thexyz or migrate to another forum engine
18:43 thexyz which is even better
18:43 thexyz > Last updated 4 months ago
18:45 Exio celeron and gaming pc?
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18:45 Exio seems legit
18:46 rubenwardy these look more like custard creams than cakes: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=88095#p88095
18:46 rubenwardy it was not really a gaming pc
18:46 rubenwardy but it was top of the range in office pc
18:46 rubenwardy s
18:52 celeron55 windows 95 and 16MB of RAM has never been top of the range
18:52 rubenwardy true
18:52 celeron55 with win95 something like 64MB was high-end
18:53 Jordach celeron55, run win 95 on 8gb of ram
18:53 rubenwardy buy all
18:53 celeron55 buy :D
18:53 Jordach bye*
18:53 * celeron55 buys all
18:53 Jordach celeron55, im worth more than average :)
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18:58 thexyz why aren't there any non-php forum apps?
18:58 Jordach because its the easiest
18:58 Jordach or go make your own
19:00 thexyz I've only found one decent so far http://misago-project.org/
19:01 thexyz but > Misago is not production ready! Don't ever use it in anything thats anywhere close to production enviroment!
19:01 thexyz and the last commit is 1 month ago
19:03 PilzAdam thexyz, I wouldnt use Minetest is production either
19:03 PilzAdam so....
19:03 PilzAdam *in
19:04 xming there are forum sw written in lang other than php
19:04 xming one of the speediest forum software is https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed
19:06 xming it's written in D and http://forum.dlang.org/ uses it to host a forum with 350K+ posts
19:09 thexyz oh, actually, last commit is 7 hours ago
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19:22 sfan5 Total number of posts: 81,200
19:22 sfan5 ^ \o/
19:26 thexyz sfan5: > Rows: 1,771,500
19:26 sfan5 may I ask how big a mysql dump is?
19:26 sfan5 *the
19:30 Jordach can i take a dump on your sql dump
19:30 khonkhortisan 3d printers print(dump(s))
19:31 sfan5 Jordach: i'm sure bzip2recover won't work after you took a dump on my spl dump
19:32 Jordach sql*
19:32 thexyz sfan5: at the same page in admin panel it says "Size: 93.27 MB"
19:32 sfan5 notbad
19:33 Jordach \o/
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19:37 celeron55 it's surprising how few proper forum software there is
19:42 thexyz I'm already in love with it
19:42 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/7fSmJko.png
19:43 Jordach post scrollback
19:43 Jordach \O/
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20:00 Calinou Taoki[laptop]: people are using pony model again on xonotic vehicle server \o/
20:00 Calinou been a while I didn't see it :P
20:00 sfan5 lawl
20:01 Jordach <Jordach> c55, My Little Computer: Git is Magic
20:01 Jordach ^ thats a little gem
20:01 Calinou heh
20:03 Jordach Calinou, i'm making a simple pack for minetest
20:05 Calinou heh, the pony sounds changed :P
20:05 john_minetest Calinou: Which vehicle server?
20:07 Jordach Pony Play
20:07 Jordach :3
20:12 sfan5 if we had this dungeon generator in minetest http://tinykeep.com/dungen/ ....
20:13 * Calinou just trouted a pony
20:13 Calinou john_minetest: [mon]
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20:22 john_minetest lol, sfan5, are you on the [mon] vehicle server?
20:22 john_minetest I'm there.
20:23 * Jordach is having a hard time selecting musoc
20:23 Jordach music*
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20:32 sdzen woo! farmtest-SDZ is now updated and almost works right!
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20:36 Jordach sdzen, colour_blocks still alive?
20:37 sdzen yep!
20:37 sdzen works just fine
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20:39 Kacey hey all
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20:49 Jordach anyone up for a game of this: http://jsbombers.mine.bz/
20:55 john_minetest Jordach: Okay
20:55 Jordach john_minetest, acl
20:55 Jordach ack, just closed the browser
20:56 john_minetest :)
20:56 john_minetest My nick is jmf there
20:56 Jordach ill be playing demonstar for a while
21:02 Kacey john_minetest, i am in that game
21:02 Kacey it crashed :(
21:02 john_minetest "Service Temporarily Unavailable"
21:02 john_minetest 503 error
21:04 john_minetest Can anyone check if this game works plz? http://ironbane.com/game.php
21:05 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/f/xmZdo3wz
21:05 john_minetest The game doesn't load for me but maybe it is because of a strange browser setting
21:09 Kacey jsbombers is back up john_minetest
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21:18 Jordach im watching jmf and kacey play
21:18 Kacey lol
21:21 Calinou john_minetest: didn't see anyone on [mon] :P
21:22 john_minetest There were a few ponies on [mon] vehicles
21:23 thexyz john_minetest: works for me
21:25 sfan5 good night
21:25 john_minetest thexyz: okay. Maybe one of my thousand browser plugins is not allowing a part of this game :)
21:26 thexyz it sucks anyway
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21:27 jojoa1997 hi all
21:29 john_minetest thexyz: It is open source.
21:30 john_minetest and they are looking for people who can improve it.
21:30 Calinou gotta like the excuse
21:30 Calinou anyway, gtg, night :)
21:32 jojoa1997 is anyone good with the inventory and/or the new hud stuff?
21:34 jojoa1997 well anyways
21:35 jojoa1997 i got the hotbar to show 9 items and the inventory has 9 items but when i move the slot(what item i hold) the 9th item wont go in my hand
21:36 jojoa1997 can anyone help?
21:38 PilzAdam you problably need to hack the engine for that
21:38 PilzAdam *probably
21:38 jojoa1997 grr
21:39 jojoa1997 when you guys added the inventory hud thing you should have add a hotbar one too
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21:43 Sketch2 This font is too tiny
21:44 Sketch2 Much better.
21:47 PilzAdam jojoa1997, do you add the hotbar as hotbar or as inventory list?
21:47 PilzAdam (I dont know much about the hud API)
21:47 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp;v=qrQVFZx7XX4&amp;feature=fvwp
21:49 john_minetest brainfuck
21:49 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWsuzRmqDuw
21:50 jojoa1997 inventory
21:50 * PilzAdam watched a 10 hours version of this today
21:50 john_minetest I think I am too tired to watch videos like these...
21:50 john_minetest Going to bed now. bye
21:51 PilzAdam jojoa1997, well, apparently the hotbar_itemcount is hardcoded to 8
21:51 PilzAdam and it returns to 1 after that
21:53 jojoa1997 would hotbar_itemcount = 9  work?
21:53 PilzAdam yes, in src/hud.cpp:46
21:54 jojoa1997 pilzadam you should change that
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21:55 Jordach there should be a lua controllable main inv sive
21:55 Jordach size*
21:55 Jordach for you can have like two slots, three slots etc
22:00 Exio VanessaE: ping?
22:03 STHGOM bye
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22:11 jojoa1997 YES!
22:11 jojoa1997 i got redstone to only have one item
22:12 jojoa1997 pilzadam could you fix the hardcoded hotbar limit and merge it with github?
22:24 Exio jojoa1997: you can always try to learn C++, code that, and throw a pull request
22:25 Exio that would work faster than telling other people to do stuff
22:27 jojoa1997 Exio i just dont have the time
22:27 jojoa1997 i barely squeeze in lua
22:27 jojoa1997 let alone a new language but i will be learning this summer
22:28 PilzAdam Exio, this moment when you think that you learned c++ and submitted a pull request but a core dev tells you to GTFO with your nooby code...
22:29 Exio PilzAdam: ha
22:30 Jordach ive had some plans for a super fun game mode
22:30 jojoa1997 like what
22:30 Jordach not saying
22:32 Sketch2 Blacklight would equal super fun game mode
22:32 jojoa1997 so PilzAdam could you code it?
22:32 PilzAdam I havent done anything to the HUD API
22:32 PilzAdam ask kaeza, he seems to know it better
22:35 Kacey bbl
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22:43 kahrl jojoa1997: it's basically a matter of changing hotbar_itemcount in hud.cpp
22:48 Jordach PilzAdam, http://ompldr.org/vaWI0MQ/minetest%20game%20plan.svg
22:48 Jordach thats my current game idea
22:49 Jordach (i plan on expanding the earlier ages)
22:49 jojoa1997 kahrl i dont know C++
22:50 Sketch2 It's not that tough
22:50 Sketch2 Hop on to the YouTube channel AntiRTFM and you can pick up the basics in a couple days
22:51 kahrl jojoa1997: go to hud.cpp, look for hotbar_itemcount = 8, change to 10, recompile, ????, profit :)
22:51 kahrl now if you want to make it settable from lua it's more complicated
22:52 Jordach kahrl, at least youre back
22:54 kahrl I am and trying to kick some bug ass ;)
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22:56 OnlyHuman hi does anyone know of good java website for modding?
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22:57 Telek minetest=/= minecraft?
22:57 kahrl what's a java website?
22:57 kahrl jsp?
22:57 Kacey anyone know how to get past these surveys?
22:57 Sketch2 Ad block plus and element hiding helper
22:57 OnlyHuman son was hoping to learn how to mod using java
22:58 kahrl minetest mods use lua not java
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22:58 jojoa1997 karhl i cant do that. this is for minitest which means everyone needs the change. it is better to allow the size to be changed by lua
22:58 OnlyHuman oh, ok thanks
22:58 jojoa1997 <kahrl> jojoa1997: go to hud.cpp, look for hotbar_itemcount = 8, change to 10, recompile, ????, profit :)
22:58 arsdragonfly Got an idea
22:58 Kacey Sketch2, i have abl but how do i get element hiding helper?
22:59 arsdragonfly what if all the GUI elements can load textures to alter their look?
22:59 arsdragonfly e.g.  a button that looks different
23:01 Sketch2 Just look it up and install it.  No reload necessary if I recall
23:02 Sketch2 Then you right click - inspect element - hide with ABP
23:05 Kacey http://linkz.it/dn3 to get past this...
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23:08 Sketch2 Doesn't look like there's anything behind the survey when you delete it
23:10 jojoa1997 PilzAdam ping
23:10 PilzAdam pong
23:11 jojoa1997 i am adding your nether mod atm
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23:13 Sketch3 I think you'd be better off looking at the page source and trying to find the redirect address
23:13 Sketch3 It obviously loads some page upon completion
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23:20 PilzAdam bye
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23:21 Exio 18050 root      20   0 6017M 5906M 24676 R 94.0 49.3 16:17.46 aptitude upgrade
23:21 Exio aptitude is awesome
23:21 Exio 6gb of ram usage
23:21 Sketch3 Apt?
23:22 Exio yep, debian6, upgrading to testing
23:22 Exio using aptitude because lazy
23:22 Sketch3 Ah.  I've done that before.  Testing is cool
23:23 Exio aptitude likes to eat ram
23:23 jojoa1997 what is math.floor
23:24 Exio https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+math+floor
23:24 Sketch3 Never checked.  Always let computer be while running apt
23:24 Sketch3 Lmao Exio
23:25 Sketch3 For rounding numbers down
23:25 Exio Sketch3: it is taking a while for checking deps, that is why i chcked
23:26 Exio i'll use apt, and fuck aptitude
23:26 Telek Only use aptitude for downgrades, or places where apt isn't handling the package resolution well. That's what I used it for.
23:26 Sketch3 Ah.  Yeah it takes a long-ass time to upgrade.  Hour or 2
23:27 Exio not upgrading or download or dpkg
23:27 Exio open: 114487; closed: 183155; defer: 15208; conflict: 540
23:27 Telek Dang.
23:28 Exio yin those cases, apt would work better
23:28 Sketch3 math.ceil rounds up jojoa
23:28 Exio with a "damaged dpkg" system it wanted to remove my kernel for resolving the deps error(s)
23:28 Exio 1,978 B/s 19h 10min 47s
23:29 Exio oh, sh..
23:29 Telek Niice.
23:29 Sketch3 19 hrs?  Woo
23:29 Exio now it says 7
23:29 Telek say At 2k/s download speed.
23:30 Sketch3 Feck, its Fri, isn't it?
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23:31 Telek Yepyep
23:31 Sketch3 Kids baseball practice.  Totally wasn't watching time
23:32 jojoa1997 how do i set 2 functions for a tool with on_place
23:33 Sketch3 By the time I get there it'll be over.  Gonna skip it for now
23:34 Sketch3 He'll be around and we can play some Sat / Sun
23:34 Sketch3 Define em both before you call em
23:36 Kacey hey i just got tf2!
23:37 jojoa1997 i do define them before calling
23:37 jojoa1997 Item "default:flint_and_steel" callback "on_place is not a function
23:38 jojoa1997 and i have another file(with the functions) load before this file
23:38 Sketch3 Dunno the format of on_place at the moment, would need to see an example
23:38 Sketch3 What file would I see it used?
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23:39 Exio Kacey: tf2?
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23:41 Sketch3 on("place",function(),function2())
23:41 Sketch3 But you need to include stress in the depends.txt
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23:43 jojoa1997 stress?
23:43 sdzen or maybe its a lack of?
23:43 Sketch3 forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4953
23:44 Sketch3 Dunno, that's how it looks to me
23:44 jojoa1997 on_place = on("place", netherport_activate, flintandsteel_set_fire),
23:46 Sketch3 No, the first on_place you have listed has to be the name of the block you intend to set down
23:47 Sketch3 Did you look at the page?
23:47 jojoa1997 no it is a function
23:48 jojoa1997 i am making the filint and steel do stuff when right_clicked
23:49 Sketch3 Well, they are functions then too
23:49 Sketch3 So put () after activate and fire
23:51 Sketch3 Eh.  You're talking Lua tho.  I'd need to see an example of something similar.
23:51 Sketch3 Gonna shower.  Brb
23:51 jojoa1997 yeah i cant add that
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23:52 jojoa1997 due to thexyz's license thingy i would need to link the stress mod to minitest which i refuse to due cause the game is meant to be one download not a bunch

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