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00:18 opticlove joined #minetest
00:26 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J29A9nBtp2U&list=PL3DE336DB7E3F4F41&index=8
00:29 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: title <url last>
00:29 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: That URL appears to have no HTML title.
00:29 ShadowNinja hmmm
00:29 ShadowNinja Gabriel inglesias anyway
00:30 VanessaE meh, I have that one :-)
00:47 Exio ShadowNinja: [url last]
00:51 [0gb_us] Use angle brackets.
00:51 jojoa1997 joined #minetest
00:51 [0gb_us] Oh, you said Ninja, not Bot.
00:54 jojoa1997 so what did i miss?
00:55 jojoa1997 did PilzAdam or sfan5 make me a core dev?
00:55 VanessaE a name change, two new releases, a new texture pack, and the whole sound system was revamped.
00:55 VanessaE :)
00:55 ShadowNinja Exio: No, I changed it, it caused issues because [] is allowed in nicks
00:56 jojoa1997 IT WAS!?
00:56 jojoa1997 i didnt see that on github ?.?
00:57 VanessaE yep, now everything uses S3M's, WAV, and MP3
00:57 jojoa1997 ?
00:57 jojoa1997 so .ogg is broken?
00:57 VanessaE yep, busted beyond recognition
00:58 jojoa1997 are you joking? :-|
00:58 VanessaE and if you believe any of that, I have a bridge in New York for sale. :)
00:58 jojoa1997 sorry i have been sick all day. i never felt worse. even compared to my bronchitus
00:59 * jojoa1997 shivers thinking about that
00:59 VanessaE heh
00:59 jojoa1997 not fun
00:59 VanessaE been there, done that.  three times :(
01:00 jojoa1997 twell you are like 3* as old as me
01:00 jojoa1997 :P
01:00 jojoa1997 how old are you
01:00 jojoa1997 ?
01:00 jojoa1997 *well
01:01 VanessaE old enough to remember when the Internet didn't exist. :)
01:01 * jojoa1997 hides
01:01 jojoa1997 IT'S WRINKLES!
01:01 jojoa1997 :P
01:01 VanessaE old enough remember when the fastest computers were generally 1 MHz (as in, 0.001 GHz) single core, no FPU, no GPU
01:01 VanessaE :)
01:02 jojoa1997 FPU?
01:02 VanessaE Floating Point Unit
01:02 jojoa1997 ?
01:02 jojoa1997 a floating cursor
01:02 VanessaE nevermind.
01:03 RealBadAngel lol
01:03 Kacey i remember flip phones...
01:03 VanessaE I'm 39....and definitely NOT the oldest here.
01:03 jojoa1997 oh
01:03 VanessaE RealBadAngel and thefamilygrog66 have me beat, for sure
01:03 Kacey OldCoder would win oldest
01:03 jojoa1997 then you are 2.5 times older than me
01:03 VanessaE and Oldcoder, yes
01:03 jojoa1997 olcoder remembers before the dinasaurs
01:04 Kacey i am the youngest here
01:05 jojoa1997 oh really
01:05 jojoa1997 how old
01:05 VanessaE old enough to remember when we communicated long distances via FidoNET and BBSs. :)
01:05 Kacey lol
01:05 VanessaE Kacey is like 10 or something :)
01:06 Kacey lets just say i am older than 10 but younger than 20
01:06 Kacey VanessaE, aggies is 2 years younger than me, that brother of mine
01:06 VanessaE Kacey: to be the youngest here with that filter means you have to be between 10 and 14.
01:06 VanessaE since jojoa1997 is 15.
01:07 Kacey lol
01:07 Kacey yep i am just younger than jojoa1997
01:07 jojoa1997 hay i am not 15 i am 5
01:07 jojoa1997 i am a big boy(in mental age)
01:08 jojoa1997 :P
01:08 jojoa1997 jk
01:08 Kacey lol
01:08 Kacey i still have 3 SNES and a gameboy
01:08 Kacey and an atari
01:09 VanessaE SNES?  oh so retro.  I have a Commodore 128 on my desk next to me :-)
01:09 VanessaE and two C64's in the closet
01:09 VanessaE SNES indeed,.
01:09 jojoa1997 i have a book and a ball and a stick beat that
01:09 jojoa1997 !
01:09 Kacey and i sit and play pong in school while everyone plays with their iphones
01:10 * jojoa1997 high fives Kacey
01:10 jojoa1997 i dont need an iphone. i have a tablet and a phone
01:10 Kacey hey, someones got to live like i do
01:10 jojoa1997 guys get tables cause they are so much bigger
01:10 Kacey i don't do touchscreens
01:10 jojoa1997 7inch best
01:11 Exio System:    Host: nex6 Kernel: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-rt-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: dwm 6.0 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0
01:11 Exio err
01:11 Exio wrong tab
01:11 jojoa1997 Kacey i use it for minetest and school work
01:11 jojoa1997 Kacey you should read a book :P
01:12 Kacey naw im good
01:14 Kacey i sell floppy disks at school for 50 cents a piece
01:14 Kacey i am such a con artist
01:14 Kacey but the teachers think it is funny
01:14 Exio i miss my sega genesis
01:15 Exio ShadowNinja: ok
01:16 jojoa1997 kac=ey what good are floppy disks
01:16 VanessaE coasters, of coruse.
01:16 VanessaE course*
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01:17 Kacey lol actually they can be used to make a floppy car (done it before)
01:17 jojoa1997 amatuer
01:17 * VanessaE looks over at her box of 5¼" 170kB disks
01:17 jojoa1997 i use floppy disks as ninja stars
01:17 ShadowNinja lol
01:17 Kacey 170? getting crazy there v
01:17 Exio VanessaE: we are not that old
01:17 * jojoa1997 pulls out his mom's collectiuon
01:17 Exio i want l33t shaders in MT :(
01:18 VanessaE Exio: next to it, an external SCSI hard drive controller + HDD measuring a whopping 4 GB :-)
01:18 Kacey lol i am going to be rich soon from my business of selling floppies
01:19 VanessaE (too bad I'm too lazy to dig out the cables and power supplies)
01:20 jojoa1997 Kacey how much do they cost in real life?
01:21 Kacey idk
01:21 Kacey i dont think you can buy them anymore
01:22 VanessaE there are plenty to be had on eBay :_0
01:22 VanessaE :-)
01:23 VanessaE item# 121101032075 for example
01:23 jojoa1997 who wants to go out
01:23 jojoa1997 to the back yard an play stickball
01:24 Kacey stickball? YES!!!!
01:24 Kacey actually no, the pong championships are coming soon, and it looks like i will win
01:25 Exio Kacey: what?
01:25 Kacey ?
01:25 Exio you can, at least here, still buy floppy disks :P
01:25 jojoa1997 Kacey is playong by himslef like i am on a minecraft spleef map
01:25 Exio oh
01:25 Exio about mc
01:25 Exio jojoa1997: http://cadoth.net/~exio4/mc/screenshots/shaders/2013-05-01_20.02.54.png
01:25 * jojoa1997 fell out of the world
01:26 * jojoa1997 won
01:27 Exio he didn't like my screenshot :(
01:27 Kacey dukes of hazard marathon is on ^_^
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01:34 khonkhortisan Is that dry grass?
01:34 NakedFury hello\
01:35 VanessaE hey
01:35 Exio khonkhortisan: wut?
01:35 Exio is that to me? :P
01:35 VanessaE the only thing in that screenshot that I don't see being possible in minetest now is those directional shadows
01:35 khonkhortisan Yeah
01:36 VanessaE and I guess even that is a matter of shaders.
01:36 Exio i need to take screenshot in the overworld/normal-world
01:37 Exio reflection, sun flare, lighting effects, etc
01:37 VanessaE was that the Nether or something?
01:37 Exio yep
01:37 VanessaE oh
01:37 Exio that is "my" nether forest
01:37 Exio (+ nether desert + nether snowy hill + nether stuff)
01:38 khonkhortisan (netherwire)
01:39 Exio when you get, in MC at least, the "overpowered resources", you start building stuff just for the lulz
01:39 Exio in MC, in the server i play, i actually have an unbreaking 3, protection 4 armor, i can actually swim in lava with my armor for 3 or 4 minutes... ...
01:40 Exio playing "survivaly" got bored, so you get resources and build (mad) stuff
01:40 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9uFNHvDBVg good song
01:40 NakedFury not much to challege your survival in minecraft
01:40 Exio exactly
01:41 NakedFury no crazy monsters that come out of thin air and hit you once just for lulz
01:41 Exio well
01:41 Exio blazes are that
01:41 NakedFury random poisonous plants that you have no way to know they are poisonous
01:41 Exio well, that would be amazing
01:41 NakedFury hard dungeons
01:42 NakedFury they need to play rogue games and add many of the crazy stuff those games have to challenge the players
01:42 kahrl_ where are the directional shadows in the MC screenshot?
01:43 VanessaE kahrl_: well maybe I'm mistaking it.  though I've seen it in overworld screenshots with shaders.
01:43 Exio there are those shaders
01:43 VanessaE the placement of the torches is throwing me off.
01:43 Exio but without proper lights, they are.. ehm
01:43 NakedFury some random monsters jumps out from a larg grass shrub and attacks you. you cant see the monster from afar, its a random encounter.
01:44 Exio i can try to take a screenshot from a "overworld" place
01:44 kahrl_ the screenshot looks like regular smooth lighting to me, with some postprocessing
01:44 Exio kahrl_: smooth+smooth really
01:44 kahrl_ yeah
01:44 VanessaE kahrl_: still, sadly it looks somewhat better than MT right now
01:45 Exio in any case, for taking that screenshot, i had glitches in the lava
01:45 Exio it flicking, and an average of 8 FPS :D
01:45 Exio the only thing what i'd like is reflection in water and some nodes
01:45 Exio (in terms of effect)
01:46 VanessaE Exio: a little glare from the sun would be nice, and wide-scale ripples in the water.
01:46 VanessaE ripples/waves etc
01:47 VanessaE reflection is nice, but I guess all of these will consume resources like crazy
01:47 Exio those waves can be done actually and jeija did
01:47 VanessaE \jeija never got the waves to work "right" as I recall?
01:47 Exio well, they are a bit "WIP"
01:47 Exio but they are possible "easily" - we can say
01:48 kahrl_ how do the minecraft shaders do reflections?
01:48 kahrl_ a cubemap for each water node?
01:48 VanessaE no clude
01:48 VanessaE no clue*
01:48 Exio i have no idea
01:48 VanessaE making a node look "wet" would be very nice
01:49 Exio VanessaE: how would that work?
01:49 VanessaE what do they call that, specular reflection or something?
01:49 VanessaE Exio: look at MC, there's some shader for it that does that for weather
01:50 Exio oh
01:50 Exio i got what you meant
01:52 khonkhortisan Does the player have a sitting animation?
01:52 khonkhortisan Or can I create one?
01:52 VanessaE khonkhortisan: no, it just "sits", afaik.
01:53 khonkhortisan I just need it to sit
01:53 VanessaE the problem is telling the engine to stop the animation once the player is in a sitting position
01:53 VanessaE we had the same problem with the dying animation - it kept looping.
01:55 NakedFury with time we can have many animations, some specific to certain actions
01:56 NakedFury like shoveling, axe use, picaxe, sword, eating ,etc
01:57 Dogzill131 bye all
01:57 Kacey night all
01:58 Exio oh
02:01 NakedFury kahrl: dexter0> NakedFury: The SEUS shaders do screen space reelections iirc.   that is how minecraft does shaders reflection
02:01 VanessaE what language are they in?
02:01 Exio GLSL
02:01 Exio like all GL shaders :)
02:02 VanessaE usable in MT?
02:02 Exio VanessaE: not at all
02:02 VanessaE bummer.
02:02 Exio the SEUS shaders and that stuff are like the "unified" mods, they have a damn ammount of stuff, in one glsl
02:02 VanessaE :P
02:02 Exio (well, more than one, but you get it)
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02:03 NakedFury converting Minetests water from sqaure[or cubed] voxel shaped to a more fluid non voxel shape would take a heavy engine rewritting on the water part?
02:03 VanessaE probably.
02:03 VanessaE RealBadAngel was looking into the water mesh code anyway
02:04 VanessaE (but for a different reason)
02:04 Exio oh
02:04 Exio uploaded!
02:04 Exio http://cadoth.net/~exio4/mc/screenshots/shaders/compare/
02:04 Exio 3 images, some shaders what i don't recall the name atm - seus - default/without-shaders
02:05 VanessaE I love the one with the lens flare
02:05 NakedFury I like the first
02:05 Exio the first?
02:05 VanessaE yeah
02:05 NakedFury http://cadoth.net/~exio4/mc/screenshots/shaders/compare/2013-05-01_22.53.40.png
02:05 NakedFury that one
02:05 Exio it is less resource expensive than SEUS!
02:05 VanessaE with the pink/purple lens flare at the bottom left.
02:06 NakedFury man the difference a damn shader can have on the game
02:06 NakedFury huge impact
02:06 VanessaE yup
02:06 Exio haha
02:06 VanessaE we've had shaders for a while now, why aren't we doing cool stuff with them yet?
02:07 Exio we need more "materials"
02:07 Exio (like atm you can have test_shader_1, 2 and 3
02:07 Exio )
02:08 Exio things like "liquid_shader" "glass_shader" "opaque_shader", ehm, group of shaders and stuff, so you can apply effects to "some blocks" and not all
02:08 VanessaE right
02:08 Exio i think that is something what needs to be done
02:08 kahrl_ it's kind of trivial to load more shaders, but writing the shaders is the hard part
02:09 Exio kahrl_: yep
02:09 VanessaE we've got that alpha feature which works reasonably well (better with shaders than without)
02:09 Exio terasology has cute effects, and they are opensource (i don't recall the license now...)
02:10 NakedFury cant we use codes posted for irrlich on the irrlich forum?
02:10 Exio what codes?
02:10 VanessaE NakedFury: yes, mostly
02:10 VanessaE RBA has been playing around with, for example, the standard "dwarf" (or is it a gnome?) model, for example
02:10 NakedFury there are nice shader codes posted
02:10 VanessaE says it works in MT without changes
02:11 NakedFury a 1x1 player model?
02:11 Exio that is a model
02:11 Exio not a shader what needs "engine support"
02:11 NakedFury or like 1.5 x model?
02:11 VanessaE so if that works, it's reasonable to assume the shaders you refer to probably work to some extent also
02:11 VanessaE actually it was displayed at something like 10m high :D
02:12 NakedFury thats a giant then
02:12 NakedFury :D
02:12 NakedFury unless we are having a dwarf with a minetest spin to it
02:13 VanessaE heh
02:13 VanessaE well that's what the irrlicht guys call it
02:13 Exio well, how do i take a screenshot in terasology now
02:13 * Exio googles
02:13 VanessaE Exio: printscreen? ;)
02:14 Exio that is the cheap way! :P
02:16 Exio kahrl_: i think in the end, harder than writing the shaders, is making them faster
02:17 NakedFury actually that should be the most logical choice for screenshot taking in any game or program. keyboards have a damn key called printscreen but games dont use it
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02:22 Exio scrot worked well
02:22 Exio black screen
02:22 Exio meh :P
02:22 NakedFury could we do minetest mobs like the character in this image: http://stonehearth.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/archer1-1024x576.png
02:23 VanessaE easily, but the poly count would be pretty high
02:24 khonkhortisan Higher than a regular mesh for a similar person
02:24 NakedFury it wouldnt have to be done all in small voxels but just some parts made to look like done with individual pixels to give it a nice look. something from minetest to minetest
02:24 Exio shadows for entities
02:24 Exio and profit
02:24 Exio (as it "was" really easy :P)
02:32 Exio https://github.com/MovingBlocks/Terasology/issues/459
02:33 Exio an image in the post
02:35 kahrl_ github down for maintenance
02:35 VanessaE NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
02:35 VanessaE *panic*
02:36 Exio http://i.imgur.com/Xbik2.gif
02:36 VanessaE lol
02:40 khonkhortisan They should create a variant of that gif using the octothing and use it for their mainenance page
02:43 VanessaE Octokitty*
02:46 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/OapBLIO.jpg
02:47 VanessaE ah, and there's the "dwarf" I mentioned
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02:48 VanessaE (though I note the textures on the weapon are screwed up)
02:48 RealBadAngel dunno why, havent played with it
02:49 RealBadAngel just replaced player's .x model
02:49 VanessaE maybe a missing file somewhere, point is, it works
02:49 VanessaE now if we just had a nice set of shaders to plug into the game
02:49 VanessaE /engine
02:50 Exio we need to learn glsl
02:50 RealBadAngel im learnin irrlicht atm
02:50 kahrl_ woah, github is back!
02:50 kahrl_ they had me really worried
02:50 VanessaE yay!
02:51 RealBadAngel trying to draw a mesh
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02:51 khonkhortisan The act of flying should have no effect on the lighting properties of the world!
02:52 VanessaE the act of looking around also should not
02:52 VanessaE (as in, the sky turning black if you look at the ground)
02:52 khonkhortisan Running toward a moretree clump shouldn't flicker the clouds
02:52 NakedFury I hate that too vanessa
02:52 sdzen that is one feature that brasses me off
02:53 VanessaE brasses?
02:53 VanessaE PISSES.
02:53 khonkhortisan you can also cover one eye with a wall to do the same thing
02:53 khonkhortisan bloody lighting
02:53 khonkhortisan I'm not british, it's not a swear word to me
02:53 VanessaE I'm surprised h mmm m hasn't piped up yet :-)
02:53 sdzen hmmmm?
02:53 kahrl_ VanessaE: celeron told me and everyone to never touch the code that is responsible for it :P
02:54 sdzen what every do you mean?
02:54 VanessaE kahrl_: how long ago was that?
02:54 sdzen haha it was a nice feature when I first saw it
02:54 sdzen got kinda annoying since
02:54 kahrl_ when the moving sun and moon were added to the game
02:55 VanessaE kahrl_: I think it's saafe to say that rule doesn't apply anymore
02:55 sdzen which should be texturable in my opinion
02:55 sdzen and the sky as well
02:55 VanessaE hmmm has done a lot of work on the mapgen and some on the lighting I think
02:55 VanessaE sdzen: +1000000000000000000000
02:58 sdzen for the amount of people who didn't like it when the skyboxes were removed, I have yet to see anyone give a even remote attempt at getting it back
02:58 VanessaE skyboxes were one of the best things the game had
02:59 VanessaE it was stupid to remove them entirely.
02:59 sdzen aside from a very lackluster one from me, and one from jeija
02:59 khonkhortisan :( streets' manhole is non-functional
02:59 VanessaE khonkhortisan: he's adding a drain hatch also.
02:59 VanessaE that one will be.
03:00 kahrl_ if someone cares enough about the sky turning dark bug: the place to look is ClientMap::getBackgroundBrightness
03:01 kahrl_ that and Sky::update()
03:02 khonkhortisan Let's say I made a pull request (for something like diagonal rail), then I work on something else (like vertical rain). How can I use the first "feature" while working on the second "feature", without having the first one affect the second pull request?
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03:02 VanessaE khonkhortisan: branches, or multiple repositories
03:03 khonkhortisan What would I do, have branches feature1, feature2, and allfeatures?
03:03 Exio he means how can he include the "first feature" in the code but not the commits (and in the log or so) and working on top of it
03:03 Exio (if i understand correctly)
03:04 khonkhortisan Yes, I want to use the commits personally, but mark them so they don't get pushed into a pull request
03:04 VanessaE khonkhortisan: basically, yeah
03:04 VanessaE khonkhortisan: let master be the all-features branch, while keeping separate ones from that for each new feature your're working on
03:04 Exio VanessaE: ?
03:05 Exio still not the same
03:05 khonkhortisan I'd prefer keeping master clean
03:05 VanessaE I don't know that there's any other way, really
03:05 khonkhortisan it seems like I'd have to do a lot of merging
03:05 VanessaE short of marking the files associated with your feature as "not stages"
03:05 VanessaE "not staged"
03:06 VanessaE but that's probably not good enough either
03:08 khonkhortisan This is starting to get annoying: Could not open file of texture: homedecor_refrigerator_inv.png^[forcesingle
03:08 VanessaE I get that all the damn time, for no reason at all
03:08 VanessaE always on shutdown
03:09 khonkhortisan in my mods, in other people's mods, in the game
03:09 RealBadAngel wow, first effects with drawing meshes :)
03:09 kahrl_ I'm terrible with git, but here's what I would do: git checkout feature1; git checkout -b feature2; develop feature2; git checkout master; git fetch upstream; git merge upstream/master; git checkout feature2; git rebase master
03:10 kahrl_ and then push and make the pull request
03:10 khonkhortisan Question: Why do you fetch and merge separately? I pull. Is one better than the other?
03:10 VanessaE pull = fetch+merge, no?
03:10 kahrl_ dunno, I never use pull, but it should be the same
03:11 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/SHBXFfa.png
03:11 VanessaE RealBadAngel: what's this?  a new sun?
03:11 RealBadAngel its sun.png on the sky ;)
03:11 Exio i want a happy face on it RealBadAngel
03:11 VanessaE yay!
03:11 khonkhortisan ooh
03:12 khonkhortisan using the hud?
03:12 VanessaE no more hard-coded subn!
03:12 VanessaE sun*
03:12 khonkhortisan deltan = subn(table1.getn(),table2.getn())
03:13 VanessaE RealBadAngel: be sure you build in something that'll tint and dim it toward the horizon
03:13 VanessaE and blow it out to white as it approaches noon
03:14 VanessaE I'd say put the "middle" point at around, oh, 7:00am in-game
03:14 VanessaE (and whatever the equivalent dusk time would be)
03:15 Exio oh damn
03:16 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/ETkhTnV.png
03:16 VanessaE haha!
03:16 Exio a storm outside
03:16 khonkhortisan that's weirding me out a little
03:18 * khonkhortisan rotates the asphalt with white edge image to not have to look down the street, but across it
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03:21 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/hVGQqi3.jpg
03:21 khonkhortisan woah cool
03:21 VanessaE ooo
03:21 VanessaE neat
03:22 VanessaE how about the moon? :)
03:22 khonkhortisan actual sun imagery, with an icon gradient on it
03:22 khonkhortisan it looks silly when you separate it out
03:22 khonkhortisan looks like a burning marble
03:22 VanessaE it's cool
03:22 khonkhortisan yeah
03:24 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/LnjdQF5.jpg
03:24 RealBadAngel another shot of the same
03:25 VanessaE nice
03:25 khonkhortisan Can it be supersized?
03:25 RealBadAngel i can set any size i want
03:25 Exio i'm going to sleep
03:25 Exio good night
03:25 VanessaE RealBadAngel: keep it at the size we're used to if you can
03:25 khonkhortisan bye
03:25 VanessaE night Exio
03:25 kahrl_ it looks somewhat terrifying
03:25 RealBadAngel in fact im goin now to do something really funny, hold on
03:26 VanessaE uh oh
03:26 kahrl_ like the moon in majora's mask :D
03:26 VanessaE this oughta be good.
03:26 khonkhortisan I'm going to guess double-sun
03:26 VanessaE RealBadAngel: how much of our discussion are you implementing, btw?
03:30 RealBadAngel i just started
03:30 VanessaE ok
03:37 RealBadAngel ok, here we go: http://i.imgur.com/3Ap14GZ.png
03:37 RealBadAngel :)
03:37 VanessaE HAH!
03:37 VanessaE that's no moon!
03:37 VanessaE IT'S A SPACE STATION!!!!
03:37 VanessaE :)
03:37 khonkhortisan and it's destroyed, too
03:38 VanessaE it's also upside down :)
03:38 khonkhortisan remarkably well-lit for the sun being on the other side of the planet, along the same orbital axis
03:41 ShadowNinja I see LM found the dev wiki...
03:55 NakedFury found this nice little gem of a future game: http://stonehearth.net/
03:56 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/JmuHeve.png
03:56 VanessaE nice
03:56 khonkhortisan the cloud looks wrong now
03:57 VanessaE well I've got all the imagery I'm gonna need for HDX to support this ;)
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04:10 khonkhortisan I now have concrete from two mods
04:20 VanessaE technic and streets
04:20 VanessaE one needs to defer to the other (and alias its own to the other if deferred)
04:21 VanessaE imho, streets mod should defer to technic if it is installed.
04:21 VanessaE since the latter already has stairsplus support anyway
04:23 khonkhortisan I move forward, I get fog. I move backward, the block two in front of me disappears, and I have no fog.
04:29 khonkhortisan move forward http://postimg.org/image/phgkehjp3/ move back http://postimg.org/image/99kng9xmz/
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04:30 VanessaE khonkhortisan: weird
04:31 khonkhortisan it's like it's using the block of the start of the fog as the cutoff point instead of the block of the end of the fog
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04:32 VanessaE khonkhortisan: oh yeah I get what you mean.  I have my view range locked at 70, so I rarely notice that effect (though when I see it, it is irritating as hell()
04:39 NakedFury http://www.minddesk.com/index.php   make the games models with this editor
04:39 NakedFury would look amazing
04:39 VanessaE heh
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05:03 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/i692bUl.jpg
05:03 VanessaE OOOOOO!!!!
05:03 VanessaE GIMME!
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05:04 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/Bw19MZF.jpg
05:04 khonkhortisan So you could have the sun be a very close cold star with space around it
05:05 VanessaE yes indeed
05:05 RealBadAngel by now i do have static skydome
05:05 khonkhortisan the clouds look abstract against the skybox/sphere/image
05:05 VanessaE yeah really
05:06 khonkhortisan Dome. I was close :)
05:06 VanessaE that's what compiz calls it
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05:07 VanessaE that's just beautiful
05:09 khonkhortisan We'll be looking back on minetest when it didn't have this and it'll look old
05:10 VanessaE mmhmm
05:10 khonkhortisan Something "the player can see" as some here would put it
05:15 kahrl_ what would be nice would be if it was possible to define sky objects from lua
05:15 kahrl_ stellarium mod :)
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05:16 VanessaE kahrl_: that would be kinda cool actually
05:21 hmmmm ahh
05:21 hmmmm static skydome is exactly what we need to push forward the whole "different game" thing
05:22 hmmmm also need to make the light levels lua-modifiable
05:22 VanessaE I suggested to RBA that it slowly pan to one side, to follow the sun/moon
05:23 VanessaE or at least so that it can outright replace the 3d clouds
05:27 khonkhortisan You can have static mountains with a moving sky behind it
05:28 VanessaE now THAT would be useful
05:28 VanessaE no more need for farmesh
05:28 VanessaE (not that it works anyway)
05:29 kahrl_ although the mountains would be static, so they'd show even if you look at a vast ocean
05:30 VanessaE that's okay, you just draw/paint/photograph them in such a way as to look like they're incredibly far away
05:30 khonkhortisan it's an illusion/hallucination/hallucinogen/holly/hello, how are you?
05:31 khonkhortisan Then someone makes waterworld just to make it wrong
05:32 VanessaE so the game/engine/whatever would ship with really basic imagery (or none at all)
05:32 VanessaE this is purely in the hands of us texture pack authors ;-)
05:33 khonkhortisan I'm looking at these double-tall stairs and how many extra nodes I'd have to make just for an asphalt road
05:35 khonkhortisan eew the dashed lines aren't centered
05:40 VanessaE have calinou add them as a stairsplus node :-)
05:41 VanessaE he can use my doors placement prediction code (since your stairs are two nodes high()
05:41 khonkhortisan I have them in register_stairs
05:42 khonkhortisan A 7-pixel-wide line down the center of a node with facedir. You already know what the problem is
05:43 VanessaE yeah
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05:55 RealBadAngel ok, last screenshot before i go to sleep ;)
05:55 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/W9vgYNr.jpg
05:57 khonkhortisan trees and sky, just needs the fresh air
06:05 celeron55 install a fan on an open window
06:07 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/KTSE4OQ.jpg
06:07 RealBadAngel and with HX...
06:07 RealBadAngel *HDX
06:08 VanessaE oooooohhhhh
06:17 khonkhortisan :( traffic signs is a bad link
06:17 khonkhortisan Oh
06:17 VanessaE ?
06:18 khonkhortisan Left the bad link in the first post, good link further down
06:18 khonkhortisan I should've expected as much from someone who didn't include screenshots :)
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06:54 [0gb_us] http://mattsaidthat.com/2013/01/09/the-truth-is-i-find-it-very-stressful-that-smokey-thinks-that-im-the-only-one-that-can-prevent-forest-fires-i-dont-feel-trained-for-this-and-i-certainly-didnt-sign-up-for-the-position/
06:55 [0gb_us] Although, you don't have to follow the link. The URI pretty much says it all.
06:56 VanessaE haha
06:58 khonkhortisan I expected an article detailing the requirements of forest fire prevention and good samaritans and stuff
06:59 khonkhortisan A stop sign at the edge of a node, and a pole in the center. A problem you could only get in a game.
07:00 VanessaE use homedecor signs :-)
07:00 VanessaE they can sit directly on wrought iron poles
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07:42 khonkhortisan Must be pretty inefficient to try to load textures on server shutdown
07:45 VanessaE heh
07:45 VanessaE I'd say so :)
07:46 [0gb_us] Maybe it's trying to load them for next time. ☺
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07:58 john_minetest Why does the minetest servers connect to servers that are not up?
07:58 VanessaE ?
07:58 Exio VanessaE: checked SEUS shaders
07:58 Exio if (mc_Entity.x == 79) {
07:58 VanessaE how'd it work out?
07:58 Exio isice = 1.0f;
07:59 john_minetest It says that it connects to "github.com:30001"...
07:59 Exio that will not work out-of-the-box in MT :)
07:59 john_minetest Shouldn't minetest check if the server is up before connecting to it?
08:00 celeron55 what? checking if something is up means trying to connect to it :P
08:01 celeron55 it just leaves it for the user to decide which is a long enough timeout for being not up
08:01 john_minetest It is saying that it connects, even when I enter a server adress like github.com on port 30001.
08:02 john_minetest It is not possible to determine if the server doesn't exist or it just takes long to load.
08:03 john_minetest Something like a progress bar and a "Server seems to be down" message would be helpful.
08:04 iqualfragile john_minetest: yeah, you got that right, its impossible to determine if a server is up or not
08:04 iqualfragile you could just set some kind of timeout and just assume its down when it did not answer in time
08:04 VanessaE bbl
08:05 iqualfragile minetest does not do that but lets the user decide: i have waited long enought
08:06 john_minetest "I have waited half an hour. Maybe the server doesn't exist."
08:06 john_minetest :/
08:07 john_minetest Some servers have a lot of mods. With my connection they can take 15 minutes to load. Maybe even longer.
08:09 iqualfragile nah, thats a difference
08:09 iqualfragile its about the first contact
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08:27 john_minetest !up vanessae.mine.bz
08:27 MinetestBot vanessae.mine.bz:30000 is up (0.891ms)
08:28 john_minetest okay, 2nd connect are 3 minutes
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09:21 john_minetest When I'm bored: http://ompldr.org/vaWFmNg/ymca.gif
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09:34 celeron55 http://candies.aniwey.net/
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09:41 Exio 06:42:48: ERROR[main]: ServerError: Invalid data in MapBlock (-11,0,15)
09:42 Exio i think i'll stop playing with some stuff
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09:57 * Calinou is making renders for minetest wiki
09:58 Infinity_69 hi
09:59 Calinou hi
09:59 * Calinou stares at Infinity_69's nick
09:59 Calinou ö_ö
09:59 * Infinity_69 stares back
09:59 Infinity_69 ö.ö
09:59 Infinity_69 sup...
09:59 Infinity_69 hey, did you read my post @ forum
10:01 Infinity_69 Calinou, can you put PHENNY in a zip folder_
10:01 Infinity_69 ?
10:02 * Calinou uploaded new torch textures to wiki
10:02 Calinou WTF is PHENNY?
10:02 Calinou your GF? :3
10:02 Infinity_69 a python irc bot :)
10:02 Infinity_69 aww, so cute...
10:03 Calinou well, I don't use it
10:03 Infinity_69 xD
10:03 Infinity_69 can you zip it?
10:03 Infinity_69 i dont like tar.gz2's
10:03 Calinou just use 7zip
10:03 Calinou also, gz2 doesn't exist, you're mixing gz and bz2
10:05 Exio gzmaz2
10:05 Infinity_69 yeah
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10:12 Infinity_69 i need help...
10:12 Infinity_69 i made a IRCBot in Python2, but the irc server(this one) gives me an error...
10:12 Infinity_69 :rajaniemi.freenode.net NOTICE * :*** No Ident response
10:12 Infinity_69 i mean this:
10:12 Infinity_69 :rajaniemi.freenode.net NOTICE * :*** Couldn't look up your hostname
10:13 Exio Infinity_69: read the line
10:13 Infinity_69 ???
10:13 thexyz VanessaE: don't tell me you hate cats
10:14 kaeza Infinity_69, I get that "error" from HexChat
10:14 kaeza that's not an issue
10:14 thexyz VanessaE: also, register
10:14 thexyz you won't see cats after that
10:15 Infinity_69 how do i fix it?
10:15 Infinity_69 it doesnt connect...
10:15 Infinity_69 http://ompldr.org/vaWFmZQ/BOT.pie.py
10:15 Infinity_69 code AAA
10:15 Exio it is a warning, if it doesn't connect the problem is other
10:15 kaeza ^
10:15 Exio Infinity_69: \r\n
10:15 Infinity_69 why doesnt it connect then?
10:15 Infinity_69 ???
10:16 Exio new lines at the end of the command you send
10:16 Infinity_69 ???
10:16 kaeza Infinity_69, are your sure you are JOINing the channel?
10:16 Infinity_69 ugh, i think so...
10:16 Exio s..send('NICK '+NICK+'n') #Send the nick to server
10:16 Exio s.send('USER '+IDENT+' '+HOST+' bla :'+REALNAME+'n') #Identify to server
10:17 Infinity_69 ok?
10:17 Exio it sends NICK WeirdBotnUSER <moreshit>n
10:17 Exio you need to use \r\n at the end or, at least, a \n
10:18 Infinity_69 can you fix it and send the code please?
10:18 Infinity_69 :)
10:18 Exio nah
10:18 Infinity_69 please!
10:19 Exio Infinity_69: other thing, your PONG code doesn't work as not all the messages are 500bytes
10:19 Infinity_69 <:'(
10:19 Infinity_69 ok, deleted...
10:20 Infinity_69 http://ompldr.org/vaWFmaA/BOT.pie.py
10:20 Infinity_69 :/
10:21 Exio Infinity_69: lol - you need to parse the buffer properly
10:21 Infinity_69 still doesnt connect >:/
10:21 Infinity_69 ???
10:21 Exio no, for the ping/pong
10:21 Infinity_69 please fix it :?
10:21 Infinity_69 :/
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10:25 Zeg9 Hi!
10:25 Infinity_69 Zeg9!
10:25 Infinity_69 Finaly!
10:26 * Calinou almost finished making renders for wiki
10:29 kaeza hey Zeg9, Calinou
10:31 Calinou hi
10:31 Infinity_69 kaeza, can you fix my bot?
10:32 kaeza Infinity_69, I can try pointing some errors
10:32 Infinity_69 ok :)
10:32 kaeza but no, you fix it
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10:48 * Infinity_69 is checking your computer for viruses... Please wait...
10:48 * Infinity_69 found [0] virus(es)... Adding viruses...
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11:17 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:18 Infinity_69 hi!
11:18 Exio hey PilzAdam
11:21 Calinou hi mushroom
11:32 Infinity_69 sfan5, is your website down?
11:33 PilzAdam no
11:35 Infinity_69 what is it...
11:35 Infinity_69 sfan5.dyndns.org:8888
11:35 Infinity_69 ?
11:35 Infinity_69 oh, got there :D
11:36 sfan5 Infinity_69: it works fine for me
11:36 sfan5 hi PilzAdam
11:37 Infinity_69 yeah, it works :D
11:39 Infinity_69 sfan5, why cant i compile python2exe?
11:39 Infinity_69 :)
11:39 Infinity_69 gives me a 404
11:40 Infinity_69 400*
11:40 Infinity_69 Bad Request...
11:42 Infinity_69 how do i take 1 out of x if x = 10?
11:42 Infinity_69 [PYTHON]
11:46 Infinity_69 i got it :D
11:46 Infinity_69 x-=1
11:46 sfan5 Infinity_69: you can't compile python to exe
11:46 Infinity_69 x = 100; x-=1, time.sleep(1)
11:46 Infinity_69 AWESOME
11:46 Infinity_69 why not?
11:46 sfan5 because you can't
11:46 Infinity_69 >:/
11:47 Infinity_69 http://ompldr.org/vaWFnOA/LIFTOFF100SEC
11:48 * Infinity_69 completed a timer app :D
11:49 Infinity_69 http://sfan5.dyndns.org:8888/compile/result-krHEYR.pyc
11:49 Infinity_69 YAY :D
12:00 Infinity_69 TOTAL HYPOCRITE: <xavier108> I am also near leaving minetest since [...] Minetest need's more people
12:10 Exio woo
12:10 Exio the v7 oceans are pretty good
12:10 Exio they go from the water level to -100~-90
12:11 Infinity_69 Exio!
12:11 Infinity_69 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=87779#p87779
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12:17 Infinity_69 bye
12:18 Calinou Exio: in v6 oceans can be deep too
12:18 Calinou -30 can be reached easily, sometimes up to -60
12:20 Exio -30 is not deep versus -100 hehe
12:22 * jin_xi is still playing candy box. effin frog
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12:26 Infinity_69 hey, why did my images get removed from the forum?
12:27 Calinou don't make memeposts/imageposts
12:27 Infinity_69 why not?!
12:27 Calinou offtopic is for slightly senseful stuff
12:27 Calinou this isn't 4chan
12:27 Infinity_69 how about lolgag
12:27 Infinity_69 or yotrol
12:27 Infinity_69 :)
12:27 Infinity_69 http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23463008.jpg
12:27 Calinou maybe, but don't do that on the minetest forum
12:27 Infinity_69 <:(
12:28 Infinity_69 but still, http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23463008.jpg is damn funny, eh xD
12:28 Calinou no
12:29 VanessaE [05-02 06:14] <thexyz> VanessaE: don't tell me you hate cats  <-- I love cats.  And I *am* registered.
12:29 VanessaE john_minetest: not only is the server up, it just got a speed boost about 10 mins ago, now 30M/4Mbps :-)
12:30 Exio Infinity_69: how can it be funny
12:31 VanessaE Infinity_69: no, not funny at all.  boring and old is more like it.
12:31 Infinity_69 -.-
12:31 Exio the only meme what i still like is 9001
12:31 * Infinity_69 is starting a new forum
12:31 Infinity_69 Its over 9000!
12:32 Exio it is not funny from nothing
12:33 VanessaE Exio: the sad part is that meme started from a completely serious quote in Dragonball Z.
12:33 Exio VanessaE: he..
12:33 Exio 868682 nodes replaced
12:33 Exio w00t
12:33 Infinity_69 http://global3.memecdn.com/rmx-over-9000_o_434306.jpg
12:33 VanessaE Exio: you using the newest worldedit with queuing? :-)
12:34 Infinity_69 9001 < That
12:34 Infinity_69 9000<
12:34 VanessaE nope.
12:34 Exio VanessaE: nope
12:34 Calinou Infinity_69: we only need one minetest forum by the way
12:34 Exio but it took like 20 seconds, so :P
12:34 Infinity_69 not for minetest :D
12:34 VanessaE Exio: get it.  the queuing lets the server keep on going while worldedit does its work
12:34 Infinity_69 for MEMES!
12:34 john_minetest VanessaE: It is more about my internet connection. 230 KB/s maximum.
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12:35 Exio VanessaE: i know, but i'm too damn lazy ;P
12:35 * Calinou reached 600KB/s yesterday when updating TF2
12:35 Infinity_69 lol
12:35 Exio //fixlight
12:35 * Exio waits for WE
12:36 * Infinity_69 killed Calinou with the knife yesterday...
12:36 Infinity_69 yeah...
12:36 Infinity_69 I was the spy!
12:36 * Infinity_69 says: MWHAHAHAHAAA!
12:37 VanessaE http://skinnymom.com/2011/07/28/chocolate-marshmallow-protein-cupcakes/
12:37 VanessaE WANT
12:38 Infinity_69 FUCK!
12:40 Exio 1080465 nodes updated
12:40 Exio in like 2 minutes
12:41 Infinity_69 Exio
12:41 Infinity_69 Exit*
12:41 Infinity_69 GET IT?
12:41 VanessaE Exio: get the latest worldedit git. :)
12:42 Infinity_69 -.-
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12:43 Calinou Infinity_69: you played TF2 with me yesterday? how did you find me? :P
12:43 Exio it seems like i need to do multiple //replaces for clearing the ocean
12:43 Calinou I was on a server with minecraft maps btw :P
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12:45 Infinity_69 Calinou: I could tell you, if you were a Full Member of the Weirdo team, but you aren't, so i can't...
12:46 * Infinity_69 using Notepad2
12:46 Calinou notepad2 is meh
12:47 Infinity_69 ???
12:47 Calinou profit
12:50 iqualfragile wtf ist notepad2?
12:51 iqualfragile you know that you could just use kate?
12:56 * Calinou updated the ubuntu 12.10 64 bit IRC build
12:56 Calinou iqualfragile: he's on windows
12:57 Calinou but notepad++ is better IMO, on windows :P
12:57 Infinity_69 notepad2 is an open source(i think) copy of notepad(win32) that has syntax highlighting and shit...
12:57 Infinity_69 and notepad2 is lighter :D
12:57 Infinity_69 only 2 files
12:57 Infinity_69 notepad2.exe & notepad2.inf
12:57 Infinity_69 :D
12:57 thexyz VanessaE: what's the problem then?
12:58 Calinou uh uh, I created a new world in minetest, I spawned underground
12:58 Infinity_69 phail.exe <!Best
12:59 VanessaE thexyz: I was signed in, reverting some vandalism, when the webpage warned me that I was adding "a new external link" and demanded that I answer the cats/dogs captcha.  no matter how many times I answered it correctly, it refused to accept my answers and just kept asking again.
12:59 Infinity_69 hey, how do i connect a python program to a MySQL db on mysql.serversfree.com with MySQLdb
13:00 VanessaE askin an SQL-oriented or python-oriented channel
13:00 kaeza Calinou, IRC mod?
13:00 Infinity_69 you asking or me?
13:01 sfan5 !g connect to sql server python
13:01 MinetestBot sfan5: http://support.esri.com/en/knowledgebase/techarticles/detail/40599
13:01 sfan5 ^ Infinity_69
13:02 kaeza D'oh! My domain name expired :(
13:03 VanessaE kaeza: autopay via paypal :)
13:03 VanessaE mine will never die as long as I want it to persist :)
13:03 kaeza VanessaE, no-ip
13:03 VanessaE kaeza: ohhh
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13:03 kaeza I forgot to use the IP updater
13:04 Infinity_69 :D
13:04 kaeza my e-mail client marked the warning e-mail as spam
13:04 VanessaE oops!
13:04 thexyz VanessaE: it should work now
13:05 VanessaE thexyz: too late, Calinou already fixed it :)
13:05 VanessaE but thanks; what was the issue?
13:06 * Kacey cant wait for mgv7
13:06 thexyz wow, http://i.imgur.com/o8CEFll.png
13:06 PilzAdam Kacey, why?
13:06 thexyz VanessaE: > Some sysadmins have reported that present versions of Asirra will fail to allow the user to pass the CAPTCHA, even if he selects all kittens correctly, unless you download the Extension:Asirra and use extensions/Asirra as the path instead of extensions/ConfirmEdit/Asirra.
13:06 PilzAdam what do you expect from v7?
13:08 Calinou kaeza: yea
13:08 thexyz fuck them
13:08 Kacey better mapgen, taller mountains nicer caves...
13:08 thexyz http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_topics&amp;user_id=312
13:08 VanessaE thexyz: ah.  well simple enough error, but enough to make me hate captchas  as much as ever :-)
13:08 thexyz i'm so fed up with that shit
13:08 VanessaE anyway, I'm out for a while.  bbl
13:09 PilzAdam Kacey, what is "better mapgen" and "nice caves"?
13:09 PilzAdam *what do you mean by
13:09 Calinou taller mountains, floating islands are in "indev"
13:09 thexyz anyone against banning jordan4ibanez?
13:09 VanessaE ban his ass.
13:09 VanessaE and restore the deleted content if you can
13:10 PilzAdam what has he done?
13:10 VanessaE PilzAdam: blanked 90% of his topics.  nekogloop style.
13:10 VanessaE well not 90%, but enough of them
13:11 Kacey PilzAdam, current mapgen is fine and all, but it can be a whole lot better
13:11 PilzAdam and is he not allowed to?
13:11 PilzAdam I see no rule that dissalows editing/deleting posts
13:11 VanessaE ok, bbl for real now.
13:12 VanessaE gah!
13:12 VanessaE let me go to sleep already :-)
13:12 thexyz blanking posts is a very pointless thing to do
13:12 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/XNc1IsJ.png
13:12 VanessaE PilzAdam: it was established a while back that that sort of behavior is expressly forbidden - it's why regular users can't delete their own posts anymore.
13:12 VanessaE or topics or something,
13:13 Exio http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=2046 Graphical smileys are disallowed. Animated avatars are disallowed.
13:13 sfan5 how to fail at blanking out your topics: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4862
13:13 sfan5 Exio: avatar deleted
13:13 Exio lol sfan5
13:13 VanessaE out ->
13:13 PilzAdam VanessaE, ehm, you can delete your posts
13:13 VanessaE *click*
13:13 Kacey bbl
13:15 thexyz we really need post history
13:16 sfan5 !g post history punbb
13:16 MinetestBot sfan5: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PunBB
13:16 sfan5 ...
13:16 sfan5 !g post history punbb plugin
13:16 MinetestBot sfan5: http://punbb.informer.com/forums/topic/12124/edit-post-datetime/
13:16 thexyz sfan5: no such thing
13:16 thexyz don't even try
13:17 sfan5 ok
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13:28 Calinou flowers, y u no enabled by default
13:28 kaeza ask PA. he's the one agains decorative blocks in survival
13:29 kaeza +t
13:35 kaeza thexyz, minor detail: the IRC log converts #123 into a link that points to c55/minetest instead of minetest/minetest
14:07 bas080 sfan5, Me Lol's about the blank out fail :P
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14:10 bas080 Does anyone know the game Settlers of Catan
14:10 bas080 It's a board game
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14:15 sfan5 bas080: i know it
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14:21 Infinity_69 hello?
14:21 Infinity_69 is anybody there?
14:23 sfan5 no
14:28 harrison i have heard of it bas080 supposedly mark zuckerberg plays it with his gf
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14:36 Infinity_69 sfan5, is obsidian now in the default?
14:36 sfan5 yes, i think
14:37 Infinity_69 :o
14:37 Infinity_69 btw, sfan5, im making an installer for WeirdoArcade
14:37 Infinity_69 :D
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14:55 kaeza Am I the only one who is getting fed up with these kind of topics? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=87812#p87812
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14:55 Exio i can guess
14:55 Exio ah
14:56 Infinity_69 kaeza, what about them?
14:56 Exio wasn't Liwkid banned?
14:56 kaeza No DL, so screens, just another random idea by Likwid
14:56 Infinity_69 :D
14:56 Infinity_69 true story!
14:56 kaeza there's nowhere to test it, nowhere to see the code
14:57 Infinity_69 yeah...
14:57 Infinity_69 hey what module removes a tree?
14:57 Infinity_69 os.rmtree()?
14:57 kaeza a chainsaw :D
14:57 Infinity_69 -.-
14:58 Infinity_69 wait...
14:58 Infinity_69 xD
14:58 Infinity_69 now i get it
14:58 kaeza -.-
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15:05 RealBadAngel tnt also works ok for removing trees ;)
15:05 Infinity_69 RBA!
15:05 Infinity_69 BEST
15:05 Infinity_69 IDEA
15:05 Infinity_69 EVER
15:05 Infinity_69 :o
15:05 Infinity_69 was kicked by ShadowBot: message flood detected
15:05 RealBadAngel lol
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15:06 Infinity_69 omg, jolly good show :D
15:06 Jordach thats not flooding
15:06 Infinity_69 yeah!
15:06 Infinity_69 somebody -o ShadowBot
15:06 Infinity_69 >:(
15:07 RealBadAngel idea was to show bot kicking?
15:08 Jordach thexyz, just deop the bot
15:08 Exio Jordach: why?
15:09 Jordach four lines is fuck all
15:09 iqualfragile actualy i think that was flooding
15:09 RealBadAngel jordach, it is useful
15:09 Exio ^
15:09 Jordach bullshiy
15:09 Jordach shit*
15:09 iqualfragile it was in capslocks and it was one word per line
15:09 NakedFury spam
15:10 kaeza it's useful
15:10 RealBadAngel such protection have to be there
15:10 Jordach btw, lm's about again
15:10 sfan5 !deop ShadowBot
15:10 Jordach i'd undo that
15:10 NakedFury we got shadowbot against spammers now
15:10 sfan5 ...
15:11 sfan5 !op ShadowBot
15:11 sfan5 !badword enable
15:11 MinetestBot done.
15:11 Jordach "<tupackshajur>" is the spammer
15:11 NakedFury when nobody bitches about it and it gets deoped
15:11 sfan5 Jordach: i already recorded whois and respective abuse department contact info on my list
15:11 Jordach nice
15:12 Jordach /ignore <nick> all ftw
15:12 Jordach thexyz, what was thed /umode for not recieving messages?
15:13 Exio +g?
15:13 Exio or +R?
15:13 Jordach i used +R
15:13 Exio k
15:13 Jordach * Jordach sets mode +R on Jordach
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15:26 Infinity_69 shit
15:27 Infinity_69 !g !badword enable
15:27 MinetestBot Infinity_69: http://www.wyldryde.org/commands/botserv.php
15:28 Infinity_69 !tw GangGarrison
15:28 MinetestBot @PixelProspector little late to the news, but thanks a ton for the add! 2.2 is in development! (@GangGarrison)
15:32 Jordach !TW jordansnelling
15:32 Jordach !tw jordansnelling
15:32 Jordach gg
15:32 MinetestBot I need to make a IRC test. SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT (@jordansnelling)
15:32 Jordach i hoped to kick MinetestBot
15:32 Jordach \o/
15:33 NakedFury stop fucking with the bots and let them do their job
15:33 Jordach NakedFury, why not test bad words
15:33 sfan5 Jordach: minetestbot ignored what it says
15:34 Jordach did you mean: ShadowBot
15:34 sfan5 no
15:34 Jordach bbiab
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15:39 john_minetest there is a case on ibash where someone was kicked because of rudeword, re-joined with
15:40 john_minetest *there is a case on ibash where someone was kicked because of a badword, re-joined with a badword name and wrote a badword. Bot says "badword kicked because of insults" and then "bot kicked because of insults"
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15:40 john_minetest (Stupid enter key)
15:40 Infinity_69 i need a non-laggy minetest server asap!
15:40 Infinity_69 ÖD
15:40 Infinity_69 D
15:40 Infinity_69 :D
15:41 Zeg9 I'll start mine (it may be laggy though :P)
15:41 Infinity_69 yay, Zeg9 is on :D
15:41 Infinity_69 ok!
15:41 Zeg9 I'm working on mese monster yet
15:41 Infinity_69 nice Server Interface :D
15:41 Infinity_69 +1
15:42 Infinity_69 switch it on!
15:42 Infinity_69 im connecting :D
15:43 Infinity_69 well turn it on and then go there...
15:43 Zeg9 ...
15:43 Exio i think i missed something
15:43 Exio hi Zeg9 :P
15:43 Jordach from wazuclan server:
15:43 Jordach <minetest46> *** Infinity_69 joins the game
15:43 Jordach <Jordach> hey infinity
15:43 Jordach <minetest46> *** Infinity_69 left the game
15:43 Exio lol
15:44 Zeg9 lol.
15:44 Zeg9 This doesn't surprise me
15:46 Zeg9 PilzAdam, any way to make flying monsters through simple mobs?
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15:47 Infinity_69 !g gg2
15:47 MinetestBot Infinity_69: http://ganggarrison.com/
15:48 john_minetest it looks like TF
15:48 Infinity_69 you think?
15:48 Infinity_69 its Gang Garrisson 2
15:48 Infinity_69 Team Fortress 2 8-bit 2D
15:48 Infinity_69 :D
15:48 john_minetest yeah. for example this guy with the minigun.
15:49 * Infinity_69 is waiting for somebody to create a server on there so i can play with ppl i know :)
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15:49 Infinity_69 whats the difference...
15:49 Infinity_69 between...
15:50 Infinity_69 GMail and GoogleMail
15:50 Infinity_69 xP
15:50 Jordach ones concatenated
15:51 Infinity_69 ?
15:51 Infinity_69 so GMail == GoogleMail?
15:51 rubenwardy hi all
15:51 Jordach Infinity_69, yup
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15:52 Infinity_69 rubenwardy, lets play GG2
15:52 Infinity_69 !g GG2
15:52 MinetestBot Infinity_69: http://ganggarrison.com/
15:52 * rubenwardy has competition
15:52 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5799
15:53 Jordach DUN DUN DURRR
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15:54 jojoa1997 hi all
15:54 rubenwardy mine is still much better
15:55 jojoa1997 ?
15:55 rubenwardy (4:52:43 PM) ***rubenwardy has competition
15:55 rubenwardy (4:52:44 PM) rubenwardy: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5799
15:56 john_minetest Who maintains the serverlist that is used by the minetest server browser?
15:56 rubenwardy a robot
15:56 rubenwardy add server_announce or something to your config
15:56 rubenwardy =1
15:56 jojoa1997 well for 0.4.5 it was thexyz that added servers
15:56 jojoa1997 for 0.5.6 it is a robot
15:57 jojoa1997 0.4.6
15:57 sfan5 jojoa1997: there was no official server list for 0.4.5
15:57 rubenwardy hmm, that mod is WTFPL, shall I nick the textures (mw ha ha ha)?
15:57 jojoa1997 reben whjat mod
15:57 rubenwardy http://servers.minetest.net/?
15:57 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5799
15:57 Infinity_69 sfan5 lets play gg2
15:57 Infinity_69 !g gg2
15:58 rubenwardy should I split the food mod up into a mod pack?
15:58 rubenwardy one food type = one mod
15:58 Jordach modpack yes
15:58 Jordach make them as addons
15:58 MinetestBot Infinity_69: http://ganggarrison.com/
15:58 Infinity_69 lol, that took long :D
15:59 john_minetest where can new servers be registered?
15:59 Zeg9 They do by themselves
16:00 Zeg9 set server_announce = 1
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16:03 markveidemanis I have a bug report
16:04 markveidemanis When i take an item from the creative inventory the sum of the items i have taken is subtracted from the number of items in the slot to the right
16:04 markveidemanis I am using my creativechanger fork
16:04 markveidemanis This does not happen with minima
16:04 markveidemanis +l
16:06 Zeg9 Does it happen without your fork?
16:06 john_minetest !up minetest.org 30015
16:06 MinetestBot minetest.org:30015 seems to be down
16:07 Zeg9 Can one tell me what's wrong with this line ?
16:07 Zeg9 mobs:register_spawn("nether:mese_monster", {"nether:rack"}, 15, -1, 5000, 3, 0)
16:07 Zeg9 Forget this ^
16:08 markveidemanis 86.165.90.217:30000 brand new map and some mods
16:11 jojoa1997 wtf
16:11 jojoa1997 minecraft just added a coal block to there snapshot
16:11 jojoa1997 though if they did get it from us then that means we are getting noticed
16:13 jojoa1997 what do you guys think. am i paranoid or is minetest getting noticed
16:14 rubenwardy should cakes be in food_baking (with bread) or should it be in food_cakes?
16:15 Jordach jojoa1997, theyre scared
16:15 jojoa1997 scared?
16:15 jojoa1997 food_cakes
16:15 Jordach they know they will be beaten
16:15 jojoa1997 yeah
16:15 jojoa1997 first the new textures and then the coal block
16:16 jojoa1997 Jordach should minetest"s name be changed?
16:16 Jordach no.
16:17 jojoa1997 +10
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16:19 jojoa1997 i am not on a tablet
16:19 Jordach OMFG
16:19 jojoa1997 naw i am home sick
16:19 jojoa1997 viral cold
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16:20 john_minetest !up minetest.org 30000 - 30015
16:20 MinetestBot minetest.org:30000 seems to be down
16:26 rubenwardy jojoa1997: Minetest's name was never suggested to be changed
16:27 rubenwardy the name of the engine was
16:27 rubenwardy Minetest would still exist, but the engine would be called something else
16:27 Jordach nah, i like the engine as minetest
16:27 Jordach think about it
16:27 Jordach minetest_game indicates the game
16:27 Jordach we should name it minetest_engine at besy
16:28 Jordach best*
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16:28 jojoa1997 yeah if anything it would be minetest engine
16:28 jojoa1997 why does it need to bbe different anyways
16:31 markveidemanis whats the current name of the engine?
16:31 rubenwardy Minetest
16:32 rubenwardy and the game is Minetest too
16:33 markveidemanis voxeltest
16:33 markveidemanis VOXELBOX!!
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16:33 markveidemanis Thats perfect!
16:34 khonkhortisan voxelboxen
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16:35 jojoa1997 we should name it minitest :P
16:35 Jordach no
16:35 Jordach fuck minitest
16:36 * jojoa1997 is trying to hit a bat with an arrow
16:36 Jordach youre wasting arrows :)
16:36 * jojoa1997 is on an adventure map with 3 chests of arrows
16:38 Jordach since i installed vista, i never got minetest :P
16:50 markveidemanis Who wants to play a map with me?
16:51 kaeza markveidemanis, de_dust2
16:51 markveidemanis okay
16:51 kaeza :D
16:51 markveidemanis in minetest
16:51 markveidemanis REALLY?
16:51 markveidemanis Where can i get it?
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16:52 kaeza just install CS in steam
16:52 kaeza s/in/via/
16:55 Jordach jojoa1997, you kow the mc you wanted converted
16:55 Jordach mc pack*
16:56 Jordach i worked out his technique
16:56 OldCoder News: I am shutting down my worlds for backup
16:56 jojoa1997 ?
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16:56 jojoa1997 yeah traditional beauty
16:57 PilzAdam Zeg9, no
16:57 Zeg9 PilzAdam, about flying?
16:57 PilzAdam yes
16:57 Zeg9 Ok
16:57 rubenwardy Food mod version 2 alpha: https://github.com/rubenwardy/food/tree/version_2
16:58 Jordach rubenwardy, make food mod an api
16:58 rubenwardy what for?
16:58 rubenwardy why?
16:58 rubenwardy what would it do?
16:58 rubenwardy there is really no point
16:59 rubenwardy all you need to do to add an extension is make a mod that uses the ingredients that the food mod provids
16:59 rubenwardy *provides
16:59 rubenwardy I started making an api, then realised it was pointless
17:01 Calinou I read "fedora mod version 2 alpha"
17:02 Calinou does it have a broken installer, rubenwardy?
17:02 Calinou :>
17:02 rubenwardy heh?
17:02 Jordach jojoa1997, http://i.imgur.com/WUOYGny.png
17:02 Calinou windows vista?
17:02 Calinou ALLEUIA
17:02 Jordach Calinou, not even a bluescreen
17:02 Calinou -1 for avast... useless 8)
17:03 Jordach Calinou, worked for me
17:03 Jordach also: gimp 2.6.12 ftw
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17:03 Calinou Jordach: btw, i'm playing RE on xy's server right now
17:03 Calinou gimp 2.8 is fine
17:03 Calinou just do ctrl+shift+E
17:04 Jordach Calinou, fuck ni
17:04 Jordach no(
17:04 Jordach no**
17:04 Calinou dude, it's GNU... they need brand presence, but they don't have nvidia's marketing team
17:04 Calinou so they want to universally enforce xcf everywhere :)
17:04 Jordach Zeg9, *poke*
17:05 PilzAdam Zeg9, can you please stop messing arround with my nether mod? thanks
17:05 khonkhortisan I like that texture it looks like it's at lower resolution, but then has extra stuff in it
17:05 rubenwardy PilzAdam: it is WTFPL
17:05 Jordach khonkhortisan, im making a minetest one
17:06 PilzAdam rubenwardy, but he pull requests everything in my repo
17:06 rubenwardy ah
17:07 Jordach thexyz, you about
17:07 Zeg9 If you don't like it, just don't accept it. I thought mobs were needed in this, but never mind
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17:09 jojoa1997 is it possible to attach an image to a blender model
17:09 Jordach i've seen forum sig gold:
17:09 Zeg9 Do you mean texturing?
17:09 PilzAdam Zeg9, I will add mobs to it later
17:09 jojoa1997 yeah
17:09 Jordach <PilzAdam> noooooooooooooooooooooo!
17:09 jojoa1997 mobs to what?
17:09 PilzAdam Zeg9, I just want to have a project where I can work on my own
17:10 jojoa1997 how do i set a texture to a blender model
17:10 Zeg9 Okay, I understand then
17:10 jojoa1997 how do i add a permade texture to my blender model
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17:12 Calinou jojoa1997: yes, see my block renders
17:13 jojoa1997 ?
17:13 Calinou google "add a texture to a blender material"
17:13 jojoa1997 i just need to put a texture onto a model. i already have a texture ready. and what block renders
17:13 Calinou https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/minetest/minetest_block_renders.zip
17:14 Calinou ^ this is an example of a block with textures on it.
17:14 Calinou (unfiltered)
17:28 Jordach jojoa1997, what do you think: http://i.imgur.com/h1AmWzA.png
17:28 rubenwardy what do you think this is? http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/food_nodebox.png
17:28 Jordach food_nodebox.png
17:28 Jordach thats what it is
17:29 rubenwardy ...
17:29 rubenwardy dont be sarcy
17:29 Jordach BREAD
17:29 khonkhortisan bread loaf/box?
17:29 rubenwardy good
17:29 rubenwardy just checking that it actually looks like ne
17:29 rubenwardy *one
17:29 rubenwardy Is it possible to give the ends a texture?
17:30 khonkhortisan yeah
17:30 khonkhortisan you can specify six faces of textures
17:30 rubenwardy yeah
17:30 khonkhortisan ±Y±X±Z
17:31 jojoa1997 jordach looks nice. ar you making the entire pack
17:31 Jordach why not
17:31 Jordach the style is easy
17:32 Jordach and considering im a master pixel artist, why not
17:32 rubenwardy modest much
17:33 * Jordach thinks vista is better than 7
17:34 Calinou O_o
17:34 * Calinou thinks 8 is better than 7
17:34 Calinou well, it's much more secure, is lighter on RAM and boot time, has better task manager and more support from m$
17:34 Jordach Calinou, i have five years in the bank
17:34 sfan5 "microshit"
17:35 Jordach sfan5, thats me after not eating for a day
17:35 Jordach trust me
17:35 Zeg9 sfan5, +1
17:35 Jordach i dont like eating
17:35 sfan5 *laughs*
17:35 Calinou µshit, sfan5
17:35 sfan5 let me just...
17:35 Jordach buck a duck
17:37 rubenwardy "Add bread nodebox": https://github.com/rubenwardy/food/commit/71adcdfb3e73230693d6b8a97181d1d39bfad12e
17:38 rubenwardy That node box was made with my editor
17:38 xy May02[17:03:51] <Calinou> Jordach: btw, i'm playing RE on xy's server right now
17:38 xy how dare you Calinou
17:38 OldCoder News: My worlds should be back up. Please report problems.
17:41 sfan5 Calinou, Jordach, Zeg9: http://i.imgur.com/1jkc299.jpg
17:41 sfan5 me just noticed that x​y is here
17:43 khonkhortisan myush it?
17:45 Zeg9 sfan5, for me, the "For home" has a big blue E thingie
17:45 sfan5 as you can see for me it doesn't
17:47 Zeg9 You forgot a Windumb at bottom left corner
17:47 sfan5 ik
17:47 * sfan5 might actually write a chrome plugin that does s/microsoft/µshit/
17:48 Zeg9 "Discover... windows" << even people that hate windumb know it, how would people discover this ?
17:48 Zeg9 OS WAR SEPARATOR
17:48 Zeg9 -----------------
17:49 rubenwardy Macs are terrible
17:49 * Zeg9 ONCE touched an "iDevice"
17:50 Jordach xy, i never came
17:50 Jordach Zeg9, therye nice, butt....
17:50 Jordach -t
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17:51 john_minetest µ means "*10^(-3)" </obvious>
17:52 john_minetest It is *10^(-6). Just testing you ;)
17:53 rubenwardy I can not read that character
17:53 rubenwardy Displays as ?
17:53 khonkhortisan Get a better font?
17:53 khonkhortisan mu
17:53 khonkhortisan "|u"
17:53 khonkhortisan µµµµµ
17:53 khonkhortisan h upside down
17:54 john_minetest khonkhortisan: I can read your µ.
17:54 rubenwardy ah
17:54 khonkhortisan and the cow goes µ
17:55 sfan5 <mod name="decoration" version="0.1"><blocks><block id="extrastone" tex="extrastone.png"></blocks><items/></mod>
17:55 rubenwardy ???
17:55 khonkhortisan Wouldn't it be better to build the list on server startup?
17:56 sfan5 rubenwardy: just a random thing that came to my mind
17:56 kaeza methinks a separate refresh button would be better
17:56 arsdragonfly how many of you think that minetest lacks of ingame mod tutorials?
17:56 Zeg9 sfan5, xml mods, why not :-)
17:56 khonkhortisan minetest lacks ingame mods.
17:57 Zeg9 Only for simple mods of course.
17:57 arsdragonfly It's not fun to get started by checking out the crafting guide
17:57 sfan5 Zeg9: came to my mind while reading http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaXml
17:57 khonkhortisan there's the luaC from mesecons, I can make a mod register a chatcommand to reload itself, but most of the time you can't change a mod without restarting the server
18:00 * rubenwardy just made a bowl
18:00 rubenwardy next is bowls for soups
18:01 rubenwardy sfan5: would be possible :P
18:05 rubenwardy what group should bread be into break?
18:05 rubenwardy fleshy=1?
18:07 Jordach does this look like i give a fuck: http://i.imgur.com/BcTEZoE.png
18:07 xy May02[17:50:20] <Jordach> xy, i never came
18:07 xy *cough*
18:07 Jordach ha
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18:11 BlockMen hi
18:13 rubenwardy hi
18:14 rubenwardy Is there a mod tool that can check all recipes and see if one of the ingredients does not exist, and then report it?
18:14 rubenwardy or should I make a mod for that?
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18:15 rubenwardy ^ PilzAdam
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18:18 PilzAdam rubenwardy, ehm
18:18 PilzAdam dunno
18:18 rubenwardy thought not
18:19 rubenwardy I will use a proxy, ie: food.recipe
18:19 rubenwardy store the recipes
18:19 rubenwardy and then check them on minetest.after or what ever
18:23 rubenwardy wouldif minetest.registered_items[name] == nil then
18:23 rubenwardy if minetest.registered_items[name] == nil then
18:23 rubenwardy work?
18:23 rubenwardy meh, only one way to find out...
18:24 john_minetest minetest client should show if 1.it is still loading 2. crashed on connection  3. Couldn't connect
18:25 john_minetest the only clue that I can get atm is the console output that says "<meshname>.x loaded" every 30 seconds or so
18:29 Zeg9 Is sdzen under some alias here?
18:30 Jordach usuall muadtralk
18:30 rubenwardy oh dear
18:31 rubenwardy some craft recipes use
18:31 rubenwardy "food:blah" 1
18:35 Jordach oh fuck
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18:35 Jordach a 3.5gb download just finished
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18:35 sdzen what happened to the old mod listing on the wiki?
18:35 PilzAdam Zeg9, ^
18:36 rubenwardy is name:gsub("%\"", "") right to get rid of all the quote marks in the string?
18:37 khonkhortisan '"'
18:37 Zeg9 Oh, hi sdzen. Don't remember what I wanted to say now. Never mind.
18:38 VanessaE hi all
18:39 rubenwardy nopr
18:39 rubenwardy *nope
18:39 rubenwardy hi
18:40 * Zeg9 is out. See you later all.
18:40 Exio hey VanessaE
18:44 jojoa1997 why wont my diamond armor register?
18:44 rubenwardy woops, it did not work because I typed it wrong
18:44 jojoa1997 init.lua http://pastebin.com/3a8KZdn5
18:45 jojoa1997 api.lua http://pastebin.com/VmB1ip9e
18:45 jojoa1997 help
18:48 jojoa1997 anyone?
18:52 VanessaE bbl
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18:59 khonkhortisan Your inventory image needs a .png
18:59 khonkhortisan boots
18:59 kaeza lol http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=87874#p87874
19:00 khonkhortisan helmet, chestplate, leggings, boots
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19:00 khonkhortisan inventory_image = "3d_armor_inv_boots_diamond.png",
19:00 jojoa1997 your kidding me -.-
19:01 khonkhortisan I don't need my kidding me, you can have it
19:01 kaeza :D
19:01 jojoa1997 now i just need to get the boots to work
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19:04 rubenwardy PilzAdam: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/5504537
19:04 rubenwardy only checks output at the momment
19:04 jojoa1997 oh woops
19:04 jojoa1997 i forgot to say the problem
19:04 jojoa1997 the diamond armor/tools wont show up in creative
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19:08 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks
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19:11 rubenwardy updated: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/5504537
19:11 thexyz Jordach: ?
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19:11 rubenwardy https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/5504537
19:11 rubenwardy checks recipes for mistakes
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19:11 Jordach thexyz, miner_48er wants privs on minetest.ru
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19:12 jojoa1997 can anyone help
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19:14 rubenwardy bye all
19:16 rubenwardy are aliases not added to minetest.registered_items[name]?
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19:17 khonkhortisan Save file space http://pastebin.com/HhWUB0vj
19:18 khonkhortisan aliases are in the alias list
19:22 thexyz Jordach: okay, done
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19:40 Calinou file space? woo, you saved 1KB :P
19:47 BlockMen PilzAdam, you should add drop = "" to nether:portal to prevent that -> http://i.imgur.com/XSR31fL.png :D
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19:57 iqualfragile nice
19:57 iqualfragile Calinou: less
19:58 kaeza at least that removes code duplication :3
19:59 thefamilygrog66 speaking of the nether mod - am I correct in that I just create a 4x4 frame of obsidian, right-click on it with a mese crystal fragment, and the portal will just appear? Or am I missing something here?
20:01 jojoa1997 bbl
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20:02 kaeza offtopic: regarding j4i's works, most of it is CC-BY-ND, so it's of no use currently if it has bugs
20:03 BlockMen thefamilygrog66, a 3(width)x4(height) frame
20:04 kaeza hey BlockMen
20:04 BlockMen hi kaeza
20:04 thefamilygrog66 BlockMen: thanks - I'll give it a try
20:04 BlockMen kaeza, i solved it :P -> http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=87893#p87893
20:05 kaeza BlockMen, I was reading that just now :P
20:05 kaeza BTW, it seems to work if I use minetest.after(5, ...)
20:06 kaeza but yeah, seems like set_node is the correct way
20:06 BlockMen hmm, strange. because env is loaded (else set_node() would either work) and player to (else you cant get player:getpos())
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20:07 BlockMen is 5 sec then min?
20:07 pandaro thanks blockmen
20:07 BlockMen pandaro, np
20:09 pandaro blockmen:I'm trying with some different funfioni of minetest
20:09 pandaro function*
20:10 thefamilygrog66 weird, can't get it to make a nether portal...
20:12 kaeza BlockMen, haven't tried smaller values
20:13 BlockMen thefamilygrog66, you builded it like the left one (http://media-mcw.cursecdn.com/0/07/2011-10-23_20.57.56.png) ?
20:13 BlockMen pandaro, trying what?
20:13 BlockMen kaeza, ok :P
20:13 thefamilygrog66 ah, so 5 high and 4 wide then
20:13 BlockMen oh, sry, my fault
20:14 thefamilygrog66 np, couldn't quite tell from the picture in the forum post
20:15 BlockMen ok everyone, i g2g
20:15 BlockMen bye
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20:17 pandaro i try something...anyway bye
20:19 john_minetest gtg, bye
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20:29 VadtecWk hey all, long time no chat...has anyone tried running MT on a Raspberry Pi?
20:29 VadtecWk would MT run nicely inside of ~512MB of RAM?
20:30 pandaro vadtecWk:I played on a server launched on raspberry, can not remember who did it, but it works
20:30 VadtecWk sweet
20:32 pandaro vadtecWk:http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3880
20:33 Calinou MT server: shit-e performance
20:33 Calinou MT client: shit-e performance
20:33 Calinou 8)
20:33 Calinou that's how well it works on a raspi
20:33 pandaro but works:)
20:34 Calinou VadtecWk said "run nicely"
20:34 VadtecWk it probably needs to have a headless setup with most of the ram free (aka, not assigned to the GPU)
20:34 VadtecWk http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=36&amp;t=27889
20:34 VadtecWk granted thats for MC
20:35 Calinou you would have several seconds of lag on server, less than 5FPS for client
20:35 VadtecWk but still should apply in general for a RasPi
20:35 Calinou the idea of raspi is nice, but there is no higher end version
20:35 Calinou look at smartphones: quad core 1.9ghz ARM CPU, soon to be 64 bit and ARMv8 and stuff
20:36 thexyz any chinese board
20:36 Calinou and broadcom *vomit-frame-pointer*
20:36 thexyz like this one https://www.miniand.com/products/Hackberry%20A10%20Developer%20Board
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20:36 thexyz the bad thing about it is that there's no hardware video decoding for linux
20:37 Calinou "1.0GHz Allwinner A10 ARM Cortex A8" => how many cores?
20:38 Calinou also, yes, ARM driver support on linux is very sloppy
20:42 iqualfragile VadtecWk: a) who ist Vadtec? b) if minecraft work minetest should, too but do not forget to use luajit! thats especialy important on such low-power boards
20:42 celeron55_ there are many rpi-like boards with more resources
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20:51 celeron55_ is there a way to control player position (using an entity to which the player is attached to) in such a way that it doesn't go haywire when respawning?
20:51 Infinity_69 Hi
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20:54 Calinou detach player from any entity when respawning? :P
20:55 Infinity_69 Hey calinou
20:55 Calinou hi
20:55 celeron55_ well... i guess so 8)
20:55 Infinity_69 Wheres Zeg9
20:56 VadtecWk iqualfragile, Vadtec is me, one is at home, the other is at work (the one at home logs, the one at work doesnt)
20:57 * Infinity_69 is away [.:!sleeping!:.]
20:57 kaeza that awkward moment when the main developer of the game asks a modding question O.O
20:57 Exio don't do that Infinity_69
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20:57 Exio that is annoying - if they are automatic, disable them
20:57 Exio kaeza: lol
20:57 Infinity_69 Why not, exio :-)
20:58 Calinou because noone cares
20:58 Infinity_69 :'(
20:58 jojoa1997 Exio disable what
20:59 Exio the auto-me on away shit
20:59 Infinity_69 G
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20:59 away Exio: away shit? :(
20:59 Exio away: aww <3
20:59 Infinity_69 G'night jojoa1997 and audience
21:00 Infinity_69 It wasnt auto :-)
21:01 Calinou heh, ecks is in this channel, didn't know
21:02 celeron55_ this thing doesn't work!
21:02 Exio he is stalking you Calinou, didn't you know?! ;P
21:02 celeron55_ hmm, now it works; apparently it just requires enough hacks
21:03 kaeza celeron55_, have you tried turning it off and on again?
21:03 celeron55_ i added a highly scientific one second delay
21:04 PilzAdam celeron55_, why do you use / instead of DIR_DELIM here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/084be3599a5ef0acba7c341bfd14a4e9801423a2#L3R104 ?
21:04 celeron55_ PilzAdam: because i suck
21:04 celeron55_ you may fix it
21:05 kaeza </standardtechsupportspeech>
21:07 jojoa1997 <name>
21:07 Calinou award of most useful comment: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/76398aac4a797f967a466ffcb85734edef24c46a
21:07 Calinou drunk TF2 sniper says "thank you!"
21:08 jojoa1997 so when will the optifine zoom pull request be added
21:08 Calinou when some core dev has time to test and merge it
21:09 Calinou it's far from essential, it can wait
21:09 Calinou also, remember, you can always merge pull requests locally then compile
21:09 Calinou so that you have feature before they're even added to the game :D
21:09 PilzAdam celeron55_, fixed
21:12 jojoa1997 hay guys
21:12 jojoa1997 can anyone texture some armor for me
21:12 Calinou steal stu's armor textures
21:12 jojoa1997 i just need it to be colorized like minecraft the leather
21:12 jojoa1997 Calinou it is for minitest
21:13 Calinou you can't colorize textures with the engine
21:13 Calinou you need a lot of textures to do that :P
21:13 jojoa1997 no
21:13 jojoa1997 i mean someone to actually colorize them by hand
21:13 Calinou you can use scripts to do that
21:13 jojoa1997 to make the textures the right color
21:13 Calinou VanessaE made a script for her "unified bricks" mod, you can use a static-colored overlay
21:14 Calinou so you could exploit it to make multicolor armor ;)
21:14 Calinou gtg now
21:14 jojoa1997 no
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21:16 jojoa1997 VanessaE could you show me that script
21:27 kaeza jojoa1997, it's in unifieddyes' repo
21:29 jojoa1997 meh i already figured out how to colorize it right
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21:48 jojoa1997 it is awefully quite
21:48 Menche *crickets*
21:55 * jojoa1997 chirps
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22:21 cisoun mese on flying islands ?
22:21 cisoun wtf
22:25 cisoun http://cisoun.dyndns.org/Minetest/screenshot_1733866003.png oh wow
22:26 cisoun (the nether is just below)
22:27 proller huge cave
22:27 * PilzAdam spotted a nether mod user
22:28 Menche a couple blocks of lava missing?
22:28 Exio what cpu do you have cisoun?
22:29 Exio (and you PilzAdam)
22:30 PilzAdam Intel Core i7
22:30 Exio i7 what?
22:30 cisoun Intel® Core™ i7 CPU Q 740 @ 1.73GHz × 8
22:30 sapier lol
22:30 Exio k
22:30 sapier << doesn't wonder anymore why some modes are that slow
22:31 Exio i'll try to optimize the nether mod a bit - at least for "personal"
22:32 cisoun the problem with the nether is the lack of big caves.
22:32 sapier I guess we need some way to personalize mapgen :-) don't know if this is a task that's already in progress
22:32 cisoun it's all messed up down there
22:33 cisoun And I'm very astonished about the huge cave from my screenshot. Last time I saw a cave this big was in Minetest 0.2.2 heh.
22:34 PilzAdam Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 870  @ 2.93GHz x 8 to be more precise
22:35 Exio kk
22:35 Exio i'm waiting for the steamroller
22:35 sapier << phenom II x4 lol
22:35 Exio x6 6100 , bulldozer
22:35 Exio sapier: +1 for AMD ;P
22:36 sapier it's been cheap ... and I don't need more power
22:36 proller cisoun, teleport to 30000,-30000,30000 and find lot more of huge caves
22:36 Exio that is why i like AMD ^^
22:37 cisoun I don't even need to go so low : http://cisoun.dyndns.org/Minetest/screenshot_1734593855.png
22:37 sapier I prefered amd because they have full virtualization features in all processors not like intel only in very very expensive ones
22:38 Exio i bought an AMD cpu because price, not more
22:38 sapier I required a cpu with iommu support cheapest intel was 3 times more expensive than amd variant
22:40 cisoun >> teleporting to  30000,-30000,30000
22:40 cisoun >> nether all the fucking way
22:40 cisoun meh.jpg
22:40 sapier nether without nether portals is quite useless ;-)
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22:41 cisoun oh wait, got a huge cave through the nether
22:42 Exio make an air ore
22:42 cisoun it would be scary as shit with some oerkkies
22:42 Exio and profit
22:42 Exio lol
22:42 cisoun air ore ?
22:42 cisoun wut
22:43 sapier mobf has oerkkies now
22:43 cisoun oerkkies are the funniest mobs ever
22:43 sapier can you explain why?
22:43 cisoun or maybe because the texture I made for them was funny
22:43 cisoun wait
22:44 PilzAdam simple mobs has oerkkies since forever</ad>
22:44 sapier I know ;-P
22:44 cisoun http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/7011/screenshotlk.jpg
22:44 sapier but you dont have ostrichs ;-P
22:44 jojoa1997 holy sh*t that is a huge cave
22:44 Exio cisoun: http://dpaste.com/1094718/
22:44 cisoun that was the first version I drawn
22:45 sapier without portals it's just hell not nether ;-)
22:46 cisoun is there a command to make air ore ?
22:46 PilzAdam sapier, you know that my nether mod has portals?
22:46 cisoun I didn't follow the last changes with the new materials.
22:46 sapier why do you need to teleport there then?
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22:47 Exio `because fast-ness
22:47 PilzAdam if you dont care about speed then just dig
22:48 sapier fast ness? whats slow on using a portal?
22:48 PilzAdam building the poratl
22:48 PilzAdam *portal
22:48 PilzAdam and you have to stay in it for 3 seconds
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22:49 cisoun damn i never saw a cave so huge...
22:49 sapier why? just fix it to work faster
22:49 PilzAdam and it only teleports you to -6500 max
22:50 cisoun by the way, has someone made the game running on a raspberry here ?
22:50 Exio as the mapgen - without the nether mod, is already slow now
22:51 sapier and why not fix that either?
22:51 jojoa1997 oh pilzadam ping :P
22:51 jojoa1997 i got armor to work
22:51 * PilzAdam hides
22:51 sapier << talking about -6500
22:51 jojoa1997 diamond,leather,gold,steel
22:51 jojoa1997 and chain
22:51 hmmmm >using farmesh
22:51 jojoa1997 chain i am working on and the rest i need to research strangths
22:52 PilzAdam sapier, I could change the teleport time to 0.5 seconds or so, dunno
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22:54 Exio hmmmm: what about the farmesh?
22:54 Exio - as it actually killed my FPS counter
22:54 hmmmm it's just that i can't believe anybody would do tihs
22:54 hmmmm this*
22:54 jojoa1997 what is farmesh?
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22:54 Menche farmesh displays a rough estimation of distant terrain
22:54 cisoun http://cisoun.dyndns.org/Minetest/screenshot_1735510679.png
22:54 cisoun http://cisoun.dyndns.org/Minetest/screenshot_1735538777.png
22:54 cisoun http://cisoun.dyndns.org/Minetest/screenshot_1735593887.png
22:55 Menche it's completely broken in the latest versions :(
22:55 jojoa1997 oh so like combining 4 blocks into one
22:55 hmmmm holy moly
22:55 Exio oh damnit
22:55 Menche no
22:55 jojoa1997 O.o
22:55 hmmmm well i guess it's decent enough for what a mod can do
22:55 cisoun The cave is bigger than it seems on the screenshots.
22:55 cisoun I mean REALLY bigger.
22:55 Menche farmesh draws a mesh in the distance that is sort of the shape of that terrain
22:56 hmmmm when i'm doing the nether, i'll be using negative 3d noise; not the cave system, and i need to come up with some way to set the lighting levels
22:56 cisoun jojoa1997: http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/4347/minetestlandscape.jpg
22:56 cisoun there is farmesh on the first screenshot
22:57 hmmmm ..the alternative is to have another air node that's a light source, and fill it (at least partially) with that
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22:58 jojoa1997 cough on minecraft irc
22:59 Menche ?
22:59 jojoa1997 no0thing
22:59 jojoa1997 i just saw his join message on #minecraft
23:00 jojoa1997 thought it was funny
23:00 jojoa1997 cuase i joind like 5 seconds before
23:00 cisoun http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-d4o_OggSm1k/UYJfAgn2s1I/AAAAAAAAAgA/lbbaNVl4tfM/w1079-h557/appleglassmt.JPG lmao
23:01 Exio any way to "generate" terrain?
23:01 Exio pre-generate*
23:02 Exio as, with some mod, script or w/e
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23:11 Exio hmmmm: would the "negative 3d noise" generate a "normal-like" terrain? (i mean, not random caves, but more like a landscape and so)
23:11 Exio no?
23:11 hmmmm it'd look almost exactly like minecraft's nether
23:12 Exio k
23:12 Exio will it include lagspikes.lua? ;P
23:27 PilzAdam bye
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23:52 kaeza IMHO this topic should be closed, or at least purged of the flamebaits: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=87901#p87901
23:52 Menche flamebaits?
23:53 kaeza insulting posts*
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23:55 kaeza as is common with these kinds of topics, there are always posts that miss the entire point and simply attacks other religions
23:56 kaeza as onpon4 said, one thing is saying "I don't like that", and another thing is saying "you are stupid for thinking that way"
23:56 kaeza (oversimplified)
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23:57 * Exio calls kaeza stupid and runs to other topic
23:57 Menche idk. i don't think it's too heated yet, but it may be getting there
23:58 Menche (i disagree with 95% of moderator topic closings)
23:58 jojoa1997 i wish people would stop bringing up religion
23:58 Menche i'm fine with people bringing up religion, as long as they keep the discussion respectful
23:58 Exio > internet
23:58 Exio > respectful discussion about religion
23:59 kaeza related: http://theorange.co/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/i-can-typing.gif
23:59 Menche oh, silly me. lol.
23:59 Exio kaeza: I CAN TYPING

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