Time Nick Message 00:01 mauvebic that was the easiest grub restore ever lol 00:01 mauvebic never did it on arch b4 lol 00:02 RealBadAngel ok, all engine work for glasslike_framed is done. now the api doc 00:02 jojoa1997|Tablet RBA screenie please of comparison 00:02 Exio the worst part about coding are the textures, documentation and that stuff 00:03 jojoa1997|Tablet textures are fine 00:04 Exio i suck at making decent textures, documentation, models, designs, colo(u)r, etc 00:04 jojoa1997|Tablet same here 00:05 RealBadAngel jojoa1997|Tablet, http://i.imgur.com/5d6sNvO.jpg 00:05 * jojoa1997|Tablet liky 00:05 RealBadAngel this is new drawtype with several textures applied 00:06 Exio is there any clientside-like prediction? 00:06 RealBadAngel new drawtype uses 2 textures, one for frame, second for faces 00:09 mauvebic what the... system clock gives different times in arch and windows lol 00:11 92AAAHE1B !up minetest.info.tm 00:11 MinetestBot minetest.info.tm:30000 is up (0.418ms) 00:20 Kacey huh 00:28 mauvebic i removed the default from grub, though the menu still doesn't appear at startup :/ 00:28 Exio timeout? 00:29 mauvebic maybe 5 seconds is too low while monitor looks for inputs? 00:31 mauvebic that was it, set timeout to 30 seconds and 10 had elapsed from beginning of reboot 01:02 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6MmRJ12Pxo 01:04 * jojoa1997 from xchat 01:04 jojoa1997 how do i make it not log stuff 01:05 mauvebic ? 01:07 Kacey jojoa1997|PC, xchat only works for 30 days with windows 01:08 Kacey hexchat stays free 01:08 jojoa1997|PC this is xchat2 01:08 Kacey still 01:08 jojoa1997|Tablet this is xchat2 01:09 jojoa1997|Tablet anyways how do i make the cliuent not disconnect when i minimize the client? 01:09 VanessaE xchat ftw :) 01:10 VanessaE yoiu probably didn't minimize, you probably closed it. 01:10 jojoa1997|Tablet wait so how do i not have it do the close client when minimized 01:10 jojoa1997|Tablet i pressed the - 01:10 jojoa1997|Tablet [-] 01:10 VanessaE there's a plugin for it that'll dock it into your panel/system tray 01:10 VanessaE at least, for linux there is 01:11 VanessaE or there used to be.. 01:18 jojoa1997 yay it works 01:18 * jojoa1997 feels so relaxed typing only on computer again 01:24 Kacey jojoa1997, i used xchat and it stopped working after 30 days xchat2 works the same, just it is an upgrade to xchat 01:25 jojoa1997 meh this is only temporary 01:25 Kacey use hexchat 01:25 jojoa1997 tablet keyboard died 01:26 VanessaE you know, tablets usually DO have an on-screen keyboard too 01:26 jojoa1997 well going cay 01:26 jojoa1997 cya 01:27 NakedFury tablets ALWAYS HAVE an on screen keyboard 01:28 Exio if he uses his tablet that much 01:28 Exio i don't see the why not for having a full linux distro in the sd 01:28 Exio (like debian+x11+basic-stuff) 01:29 NakedFury is he apple tablet? 01:29 Exio android 01:36 * Kacey is considering giving up on xytest 01:38 NakedFury take it easy so you wont consider it 01:39 Kacey nobody seems to like it... 01:47 MinetestBot GIT: RealBadAngel commited to minetest/minetest: Add new drawtype GLASSLIKE_FRAMED 625a4c2e66 2013-04-24T18:45:18-07:00 http://git.io/cgwMwQ 02:00 Kacey night all 02:00 MinetestBot GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: Improve getFree*ActiveObjectId to reduce common case cpu usage drasticaly e9a4e98cb9 2013-04-24T18:59:09-07:00 http://git.io/JHbatA 02:04 ShadowNinja sfan5|OFF: *ahem* my bot doesn't have the empty author bug, and it doesn't rely on RSS, or github 02:19 khonkhortisan I should register as nbsp " " 02:21 mauvebic please, i have enough trouble keeping track of all the multiple aliases/personalities around here :p 02:22 NakedFury you are fine as khonkhortisan 02:22 khonkhortisan me too 02:22 NakedFury we would be like: who the fuck is nbsp man? what the hell does that even mean?? 02:22 mauvebic first thoughts went to ntpd lol 02:23 mauvebic (time server daemon ) 02:23 khonkhortisan no I mean as what's actually between the quotes " " 02:23 NakedFury ntpd: notepad? 02:23 khonkhortisan a space character that can't be broken for line break 02:23 khonkhortisan it joins the words on either side 02:23 khonkhortisan oh glass got in 02:27 [Asleep] Oh, what? mauvebic wants us to all trade names? 02:28 * khonkhortisan is now known as uɐsıʇɹoɥʞuoɥʞ 02:28 [0gb_us] And nbsp is probably  , the XHTML non-breaking space entity code. 02:29 khonkhortisan it's only 7:29 and the moon is already up in minetest 02:38 mauvebic yes please, trade names :p 02:40 EduardeCalibal How I convert userdata to will be possible serialize it? 02:50 khonkhortisan I use a mod to set world time to real time, and the main menu clouds have a light sky. 02:53 [0gb_us] That's an interesting idea. 02:57 * [0gb_us] builds a super-pick, that goes very fast, but breaks after one use 02:58 RealBadAngel this is my copy of common https://github.com/RealBadAngel/common 02:58 RealBadAngel in case somebody wants to try framed glass before the changes are merged 03:00 RealBadAngel ofc only for use with game built with latest changes 03:07 [0gb_us] I'm not sure what to try with framed glass. You've been posting screenshots all the way, so I know what it looks like. It will be a fun change to the game though. 03:33 Exio hahahaha 03:33 VanessaE ? 03:34 Exio just using active_block_modifier = 15 03:34 Exio finite_liquids and made stone, dirt, sand, grass and leaves liquids 03:34 VanessaE screenshot? :) 03:34 Exio fly-ed a bit 03:34 khonkhortisan fly-ed -> flied -> flew 03:35 khonkhortisan We are in need of screenies 03:35 Exio i'll upload one 03:36 Exio uploading 03:37 VanessaE HURRY!!!!1!!!!1 03:37 VanessaE :) 03:38 Exio VanessaE: fast screenshot of my world after some seconds 03:39 Exio (new generated) 03:39 Exio newly * 03:39 Exio ah, other thing, liquid_update set to 0 03:45 Demon_Fox_ How fast is world generation now? 03:45 Demon_Fox_ It used to take a couple seconds before 03:46 Demon_Fox_ To get stuff loaded 03:46 Demon_Fox_ Like a minute or so 03:47 NakedFury thats a couple of minutes then not a couple of seconds 03:47 Demon_Fox_ I mean to load the first chunk 03:47 Demon_Fox_ and a minute to start loading the landscape 03:59 VanessaE zzz 04:07 Exio it is possible to get item duplication when "torches" drop? (digged the block where they were attached) 04:08 VanessaE not sure 04:09 Exio well, seems i got that 04:18 [0gb_us] Oh, what? It seems desert stone bricks were added at the same time as sand stone bricks, but I missed them. 04:20 VanessaE [0gb_us]: do you like 'em? :) 04:20 VanessaE photoshopped from default stone bricks by me :D 04:27 [0gb_us] Nice. 04:28 Exio photoshopped? 04:29 [0gb_us] Yeah, they should give people that complain about the lack of nodes less to complain about. Now we just need some blue nodes. 04:29 Exio pink nodes* 04:29 [0gb_us] VanessaE doesn't use GIMP like the rest of us. Photoshop need Wine, though. 04:30 VanessaE sure I do. 04:30 VanessaE I just call it that because "gimping" sounds weird. 04:30 VanessaE :) 04:30 Exio gimped :D 04:31 [0gb_us] I figured that was the case, actually. I didn't see why you'd Wine Photoshop when you can use GIMP natively. 04:31 khonkhortisan photoshop needs a plugin to make it like gimp 04:31 [0gb_us] Gimping is like limping, I believe. 04:31 [0gb_us] !g gimping 04:31 MinetestBot [0gb_us]: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/gimping 04:31 [0gb_us] Yeah, I was right. 04:32 khonkhortisan it says that's offensive :) 04:32 khonkhortisan The menu always thinks it's daytime 04:33 [0gb_us] You never know what has been Photoshoped these days. People are getting pretty good at it. http://xkcd.com/331/ 04:35 khonkhortisan Real-life photoshopping http://3d-pictures.feedio.net/awesome-optical-3d-street-drawing-illusion-jokeroo/cl.jroo.me*z3*F*2*D*d*a.aaa-Awesome-optical-3D-street-dr.jpg/ 04:35 khonkhortisan and the other images on that page 04:38 khonkhortisan OldCoder gimps in :P 04:40 OldCoder hi 04:40 OldCoder GIMP is good khonkhortisan :P back 04:42 kaeza hey OldCoder 04:43 kaeza [0gb_us], lol 04:43 kaeza re: xkcd 04:47 khonkhortisan You read the scrollback? 05:32 sfan5 seriously? minecraft gets dyed wood: http://dinnerbone.com/media/uploads/2013-04/screenshots/Minecraft_13w16b_2013-04-24_19-54-57.png 05:34 VanessaE snote 05:34 VanessaE snore* 05:34 VanessaE I did that months ago. 05:34 VanessaE and in far more colors. 05:34 VanessaE and jordach had cotton pretty well settled then, too 05:35 VanessaE Mojang must be getting desperate for ideas if they're stealing from us now ;) 05:39 sfan5 well, ask Dinnerbone then 08:40 kaeza http://ifunny.mobi/p/hzz2LQNs 08:42 VanessaE kaeza: for you: http://ifunny.mobi/f/6SrdPEwx 08:42 kaeza VanessaE, :D 08:43 kaeza two gods in one picture: epic 08:48 MinetestBot GIT: celeron55 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix compatibility of RBA's NDT_GLASSLIKE_FRAMED 6b5c7d9e74 2013-04-25T01:40:23-07:00 http://git.io/HsF3Gw 08:49 [0gb_us] kaeza: My cat is a bit smaller, but she likes boxes too. 08:49 kaeza lol enums 08:50 kaeza [0gb_us], that's the joke ;) 08:50 MinetestBot GIT: celeron55 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix compatibility of RBA's NDT_GLASSLIKE_FRAMED bc3072b35e 2013-04-25T01:51:28-07:00 http://git.io/bSINLA 08:51 kaeza http://ifunny.mobi/p/5BJBXSQW 08:52 VanessaE heh 09:16 celeron55 20:53:23 < bas080> Would it be hard to make a minetest server url that includes ip and port and when opened it opens a minetest client. Just like when i open an rss it opens gpodder. 09:16 celeron55 that is OS dependent 09:17 celeron55 but yeah, minetest doesn't have handling for such an address; it'd require a wrapper script as of now 09:17 * ShadowBot wakes up 09:18 celeron55 otoh, did anyone know MT can open worlds if you associate *.mt with it and click such in a world directory 8) 09:18 celeron55 +? 09:26 [0gb_us] No, I didn't know that. That's cool! 09:36 kaeza http://ifunny.mobi/p/Ehwbn2Nb 09:36 celeron55 (you need to associate "minetest --world " though) 09:36 kaeza :D 09:43 VanessaE ping 09:43 kaeza polo 09:43 VanessaE kaeza: can you explain this one? http://ifunny.mobi/p/9uNmUrGV 09:43 VanessaE I've seen it once or twice and I'm completely stymied. 09:44 kaeza VanessaE, bad one 09:44 VanessaE wtf is the viewer supposed to see? 09:45 kaeza apparently, the guy was going to do a "bomb" 09:45 kaeza (or whatever you call that) 09:45 VanessaE guy? 09:46 jin_xi lurk moar... 09:46 VanessaE fuck, the link didn't go to the right image. 09:46 jin_xi oh. thought you had problems reading le fffffffuuuuuuuuu 09:46 VanessaE naw 09:47 VanessaE and of course now I already lost it 09:47 VanessaE it was a picture of a woman on the beach, jumping. Some bushes and her shadow near the bottom, ocean surf in the background. 09:47 * [0gb_us] messed up his commit again .... 09:48 kaeza VanessaE, did it say "when you see it..." 09:48 kaeza ? 09:48 VanessaE yeah 09:48 kaeza lol 09:48 kaeza I know which one 09:49 kaeza it's the position of the bush 09:49 kaeza no need to explain where it ended up in the shadow ;) 09:49 VanessaE er, ok 09:50 [0gb_us] Hey, PilzAdam. 09:50 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 09:50 VanessaE if that's what it was meant to imply, mega-lame joke. 09:50 VanessaE hey PilzAdam 09:51 VanessaE me --> http://ifunny.mobi/p/iT820CCk 09:55 kaeza LOL 09:59 VanessaE http://m.ifunny.mobi/p/nLgDW29J 09:59 VanessaE I don't get it. 10:00 VanessaE (and I've seen a similar one before, too, different Teletubbie though) 10:04 kaeza http://ifunny.mobi/p/4akUgubv 10:04 VanessaE heh 10:05 kaeza VanessaE, have you seen "The Ring" 10:05 kaeza ? 10:05 VanessaE the ring? 10:05 kaeza a movie 10:05 VanessaE lord of the rings, maybe. that's it. 10:05 kaeza nonono 10:06 kaeza http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0298130/ 10:07 Issa movies sucks the rings 10:07 VanessaE not familiar with it. but, I'm not into horror flicks 10:07 VanessaE (I get nightmares :( ) 10:09 kaeza aww you miss a lot of fun :P 10:09 kaeza (though I seriously think The Ring sucks) 10:09 kaeza Ratings: 7,1/10 10:09 kaeza yeah, right 10:10 kaeza I'd give it a 4 at most 10:10 Issa no now i m looking spartacus 10:10 Issa the series 10:10 Issa this is a best seris after game of throne 10:10 Issa the best of the centuries 10:10 kaeza never seen Game of Thrones 10:11 VanessaE no see, I prefer science fiction, fantasy, that sort of stuff 10:11 * kaeza pust an I, Robot DVD on VanessaE's head 10:11 VanessaE Star Trek, Contact, Sorcerer's Apprentice, etc. 10:11 kaeza :3 10:11 VanessaE DVD? BITE YOUR TONGUE! 10:11 VanessaE Blu-Ray or GTFO 10:11 kaeza hehe 10:12 kaeza Blu-Ray here is expensive as hell 10:12 kaeza it's not widespread yet 10:12 [0gb_us] My computer won't read Blu-Ray. It reads DVDs though. 10:13 VanessaE ok, think I'll go try to sleep now. 10:14 [0gb_us] Good night. 10:14 VanessaE night 10:14 kaeza night V 10:14 VanessaE oh, also.. PilzAdam: flowers mod has been moderately retooled to get ready for your patch to common. 10:14 VanessaE out--> 10:15 PilzAdam VanessaE, ok, Ill remove the cotton aliases then 10:23 PilzAdam VanessaE, https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/5458821 10:23 kaeza http://ifunny.mobi/p/8Ulh1mKw 10:24 Issa night 10:25 Issa Hello PilzAdam 10:25 PilzAdam hi 10:25 Issa why u dont' add directly on the game, monsters, animales, moving plants ? 10:25 Issa sesons 10:26 Issa like winter summer ... ? 10:26 Issa i really like u game 10:28 PilzAdam VanessaE, also benchmarked the ABM, it takes 0 ms 99% of the time and highest value was 1 ms 10:28 PilzAdam it runs about ~ 100 times / minute 11:04 jojoa1997|Tablet lol 11:04 jojoa1997|Tablet i just got an amail saying 11:05 jojoa1997|Tablet "Suprise your mom with a nexus 7 tablet + ..." 11:05 jojoa1997|Tablet funny thing is she bought me and her and my sister one 11:10 Calinou ö_ö 11:10 Calinou jojoa1997|Tablet: better, I get ads about my mobo and my case... which I already have 11:10 Calinou on some hardware sites, when adblock fails to block them 11:29 KikaRz t 11:29 KikaRz Cool, my car has overheated 11:29 KikaRz Reason: no Water. 11:29 KikaRz Oh, another cool thing... net split 11:54 Calinou lol, how did you forgot that 12:26 EduardeCalibal PilzAdam, this function do the userdata to table function. http://pastebin.com/rYyb706q 12:26 EduardeCalibal Then I get the meta from the node, use this function and store all results. 12:26 EduardeCalibal When I read it and try give back meta to nodes the game crash. 12:27 EduardeCalibal I get the string and use the meta:from_table(string) 12:27 PilzAdam how do you store the table in a file? 12:28 EduardeCalibal The storage don't is the problem. The error occur if I convert and convert back without write to a file. 12:29 PilzAdam you cant pass a table to meta:from_table() 12:29 EduardeCalibal I serialize and deserialize... 12:29 EduardeCalibal No? 12:29 PilzAdam you need to deserialize the string before passing it to from_table() 12:29 EduardeCalibal I will test, thanks. 12:31 EduardeCalibal Now is working but I lost the entire metadata... 12:31 EduardeCalibal Maybe a wrong var... Hum.. 12:32 EduardeCalibal In a direct copy, without conversion is working, but without serialize. 12:32 EduardeCalibal Like meta.from_table(nome:get_meta():to_table()) 12:32 EduardeCalibal But if a convert with my code the game is crashing... 12:32 EduardeCalibal And using the serialize don't is working. 12:33 PilzAdam to save it, you just call: savestring = minetest.serialize(meta:to_table()) 12:34 PilzAdam and to load it, you do: meta:from_table(minetest.deserialize(savestring)) 12:34 EduardeCalibal I will test in this form. Moment. 12:36 EduardeCalibal 09:50:19: ERROR[main]: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...s/minetest/git/minetest/bin/../builtin/serialize.lua:136: Can't serialize data of type userdata 12:36 EduardeCalibal I already tested in this format and don't work before... 12:36 EduardeCalibal Is the motivation of my function. 12:36 PilzAdam can you show me the code? 12:36 EduardeCalibal Exactly what you wrote... 12:37 EduardeCalibal savestring = minetest.serialzie(meta:to_table() 12:37 EduardeCalibal And after i try put back in a node. 12:37 EduardeCalibal Is a chest. 12:37 EduardeCalibal The chest have userdata inside. 12:37 EduardeCalibal In the storage. 12:38 PilzAdam userdata means that its a c++ object 12:38 EduardeCalibal I know. 12:38 EduardeCalibal I converted this data to table. 12:39 EduardeCalibal And when I try convert back the from_table don't like my data... I think he need userdata. 12:39 EduardeCalibal How I create new userdata from a table? 12:39 PilzAdam you do something wrong. meta:to_table() returns a Lua table, it is 100% serializeable with minetest.serialize() 12:40 EduardeCalibal Yes, but the userdata is a type without suport to conversion no? 12:41 PilzAdam can you show me your code? 12:41 EduardeCalibal Yes... 12:41 EduardeCalibal Moment. 12:43 EduardeCalibal This is the second function 12:43 EduardeCalibal http://pastebin.com/2zVMzWwb 12:43 EduardeCalibal This is the convertion function http://pastebin.com/rYyb706q 12:43 EduardeCalibal Have one more, to put the data back. 12:44 EduardeCalibal This one: http://pastebin.com/MsiwCzrc 12:44 EduardeCalibal Ok, is the entire code... I am testing your ideas then some is out of the place now. 12:45 PilzAdam ehm 12:45 PilzAdam why do you have so much code? 12:46 EduardeCalibal I don't understanding your question... 12:46 PilzAdam https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/4540471 12:46 EduardeCalibal Is a test function... Some of the code will be commented before will be removed. 12:46 PilzAdam you just need these 18 lines 12:47 EduardeCalibal This function don't conver my problem... 12:47 PilzAdam then you can do: save(meta:to_table(), "filename.txt") 12:47 EduardeCalibal My conde don't is to write... 12:47 PilzAdam and: meta:from_table(load("filename.txt)) 12:47 EduardeCalibal Is to copy a entire area. 12:48 PilzAdam I just need the section of your code where the error occurs 12:49 EduardeCalibal This is the section... 12:49 PilzAdam I cant find it in the massive amount of code 12:49 EduardeCalibal My problem is very small. 12:49 PilzAdam you also have wrong indentation 12:49 EduardeCalibal Is a test code... Is a big mess. 12:49 EduardeCalibal I need copy a meta from a chest and add to another chest 12:50 EduardeCalibal With the entire content. 12:50 PilzAdam from the error messag you posted above it seems like you call minetest.serialze(meta) somwhere 12:50 PilzAdam *message 12:51 EduardeCalibal I used the serialize when you requested, but I removed from the code afther the error. 12:53 EduardeCalibal My code need 3 stages, meta -> table -> file and after, file -> table -> meta 12:53 EduardeCalibal The file is optional but the meta userdata need be converted to a table. 12:54 PilzAdam meta:to_table() converts the c++ object to a Lua table 12:54 EduardeCalibal Ok, this is working. 12:54 EduardeCalibal But when I try convert back the game crash 12:55 EduardeCalibal But if I convert this data don't crash 12:55 EduardeCalibal If I do the convertion and convert back without storage it the code is working. 12:56 PilzAdam then the problem is in the "storage" (whatever you mean by that) 12:56 EduardeCalibal Yes. 12:56 EduardeCalibal I converted with the first function 12:56 EduardeCalibal The userdata. 12:56 EduardeCalibal But when I do this convertion some is lost. 12:58 EduardeCalibal I will split my function in two versions, one working in the current game and a second one to test the storage function. 12:58 EduardeCalibal Anyway I have some RL work now. Cya. 12:58 EduardeCalibal And thanks. :D 12:58 EduardeCalibal AFK 13:02 celeron55 umm 13:03 celeron55 sfan5|OFF would know much about this 13:06 celeron55 i recall something about meta:to_table not being directly usable 13:06 celeron55 aren't the inventory items in the inventory of it in ItemStack format? that would be userdata 13:07 celeron55 they should probably be made to be in the lua table format 13:09 celeron55 that'd be then something like meta:to_table({fully_serializable: true}) to preserve compatibility 13:09 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/worldedit_pp/blob/master/init.lua#L319 13:09 PilzAdam you need something like this to convert ItemStacks in the table to strings 13:15 Kacey bbl 13:59 * ShadowBot sleeps 13:59 sfan5 celeron55: about what? 14:01 sfan5 ShadowNinja: how does it work then? 14:04 sfan5 this is just stupid(part of github rss feed): 14:12 PilzAdam flowers! http://ompldr.org/vaTd2bA 14:12 jojoa1997|Tablet From where 14:12 jojoa1997|Tablet Minitest? 14:12 ShadowNinja sfan5: It uses git clone/pull and checks anything that has been pulled 14:13 sfan5 oh, thats also a possibility 14:13 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, no 14:13 jojoa1997|Tablet Ok 14:14 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/common/branches/flowers 14:14 jojoa1997|Tablet Pilzadam make them craft dyes 14:15 PilzAdam are you able to read? 14:15 jojoa1997|Tablet I can't get to the add part 14:16 iqualfragile how do i enable mapgen v7 or is it allready enabled by default? 14:16 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rssnotify 14:16 MinetestBot sfan5: (version: 2013-04-25 14:16:24) 14:16 sfan5 iqualfragile: mg v7 only generates stone 14:17 Exio and dirt/grass 14:17 jojoa1997|Tablet Oh cool 14:17 jojoa1997|Tablet How do I enable 14:17 Exio jojoa1997|Tablet: uh? 14:17 jojoa1997|Tablet Mg7 14:18 Exio you may get corrupted maps in the future - or better saying, maps what will be messed up 14:18 Exio it is in dev, it may have big changes 14:18 Exio if you still want 14:19 PilzAdam and dirt/grass <- nope 14:19 Exio PilzAdam: nope? hm 14:19 PilzAdam it generates only ston 14:19 PilzAdam +e 14:20 Exio did you define the biomes and stuff? 14:20 Exio in lua 14:20 PilzAdam it doesnt have a interface for defining biomes yet 14:20 kahrl oh man I just created a new world and slightly shocked myself 14:21 kahrl didn't expect any music to start playing 14:21 kahrl forgot I still had my doomhud mod installed that plays the music from the first doom level 14:21 kaeza kahrl, :D 14:21 kaeza link? 14:22 Exio hm PilzAdam 14:23 kahrl it's nothing special but: http://codepad.org/ElnMjf5y 14:23 kahrl can't distribute the texture and music I think 14:25 kaeza ah I thought it was a working hud :( 14:25 kahrl sorry 14:26 kaeza lol no problem 14:26 kaeza I'm going to make an FPS pack later 14:26 Exio PilzAdam: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=4RJVZQ4J 14:26 kaeza based on firearms mod and some other stuff 14:26 kahrl that would be awesome 14:27 Exio you'll have quake3 back 14:27 PilzAdam Exio, what is that? 14:27 Exio unplayable with more than 100ms of lag 14:27 Exio PilzAdam: a paste of hmmmm - works for me 14:28 kaeza Exio, I get around 400ms in AC :( 14:28 Exio can you still play it or the movement is lagged? 14:28 Exio or is the * 14:28 kaeza Exio, *ahem* remember when I pwned you and socramazibi 14:28 kaeza :P 14:29 Exio exactly, you can still play with 400ms 14:29 Exio now install RE >:D 14:29 PilzAdam Exio, nice 14:29 kaeza lol nope 14:29 kaeza you know that would take half my monthly bandwidth 14:30 Exio half? a bit more you mean! 14:30 kaeza 4GB/mo - 1.5 from RE 14:31 Exio 1.5? isn't RE "only" 500? 14:31 kaeza umm maybe 14:31 kaeza anyway, I seriously need to change to a better plan lol 14:36 kaeza onpon4, thanks for the list about the foods 14:36 onpon4 kaeza: Sure 14:36 kaeza I'll add it in a bit 14:44 [0gb_us] PilzAdam: Pull request to flowers. 14:46 PilzAdam what? 14:46 PilzAdam why are you doing this? 14:46 [0gb_us] Removing wool and dye from depends.txt. Your changes make dependence unneeded. 14:47 PilzAdam why do do a pull request against minetest/common then? 14:47 [0gb_us] What? Drats. I tried to pull against PilzAdam/common. 14:47 [0gb_us] I wonder what whent wrong .... 14:47 [0gb_us] *went 14:48 PilzAdam just tell me if you want to change something, you dont have to pull request it 14:48 [0gb_us] Okay. Please remove wool and dye from depends.txt then. Thanks! 14:49 PilzAdam already done :-) 14:49 [0gb_us] Thanks! 14:49 PilzAdam pushed to my branch 14:50 PilzAdam already removed useless cotton textures 14:50 PilzAdam [0gb_us], was it intentional that grass and flowers perlin noise have the same seeddiff? 14:51 [0gb_us] I don't know how to properly use seeddif, so yeah, I reused it because that one is known to work. 14:51 [0gb_us] If you have a better way, that would be great. 14:51 Exio PilzAdam: it is me or the dirt_with_snow doesn't have "snow" on the left? (like with_with_grass) 14:52 Exio oh damn 14:52 Exio saw why 14:52 PilzAdam wut? 14:52 Exio 256x tp 15:18 jin_xi so, flowers, wool and dyes coming to vanilla game? 15:22 NakedFury this is what we need: cotton plants http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Cotton_field_kv06.jpg/800px-Cotton_field_kv06.jpg 15:22 NakedFury then when we add animales we can have wool 15:24 [0gb_us] No, it sounds like PilzAdam is adding farming to get wool, not animals. Personally, I prefer farming for wool, because livestock is lame. 15:24 NakedFury so invent a wool shrub to get wool? 15:24 kaeza [0gb_us], livestock would be cool too 15:24 * [0gb_us] disagrees, but respects kaeza's thoughts on the matter 15:25 kaeza but until fast mobs can be made, this won't be done anyway 15:25 kaeza (I mean, mobs in default game) 15:25 NakedFury because you can add all the farming in the world and wool will never be possible without inventing some kind of plant that produces it or sucking it up and adding animals for wool 15:26 kaeza the default game needs more life 15:26 [0gb_us] PilzAdam is adding cotton farming to get wool. He said that in Minetest, wool and cotton are the same thing, so it would be fine. 15:26 kaeza flowers will surely add a bit 15:28 NakedFury for all the bitching to stop copying all minecraft stuff we copied wool blocks instead of just making it more original with cotton blocks 15:28 kaeza offtopic: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7377027328/hEE5F95DE/ 15:31 jojoa1997|Tablet :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D 15:33 sfan5 jojoa1997|Tablet: :DDDDDD 15:33 jojoa1997|Tablet :DO)DO)DO)DO) 15:35 [0gb_us] I know, right? What's up with the multi-mouth emoticons people send? 15:36 * [0gb_us] mutters "weirdos ..." 15:36 jojoa1997|Tablet :DD:DD:DD:DD:DD: 15:41 khonkhortisan ö óó öö 15:42 jojoa1997_Tablet ~~~~~~~~````````~~~~~~~~~ 15:48 khonkhortisan I just found out I can type oÍ„ from my keyboard 15:49 Calinou altgr+M = ö 15:49 Calinou alternate french FTW 16:05 Calinou µ_µ 16:05 rubenwardy I have just fixed the cmakelist for the node box generator that allows it to get Irrlicht in the same way as Minetest: https://github.com/rubenwardy/The-NodeBox-Generator/commit/6b42515b72aa9930861316966807fc6ff18e401d 16:05 rubenwardy so you can just install irrlicht by apt-get, and then just build the project. 16:06 rubenwardy I nicked some scripts from minetest which they nicked from someone else 16:06 khonkhortisan I don't have anything on altgr+M 16:07 [0gb_us] rubenwardy: Nice! And what you built helps define node boxes? 16:08 rubenwardy yeah, it is an editor 16:08 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2840 16:08 Calinou now you look stupid when taking a piece of paper and drawing a square with X/Z axis on it :P 16:10 * [0gb_us] thinks z should be the elevation coordinate 16:13 khonkhortisan That would be a big change 16:13 Calinou Y uses MC as vertical, is that why you want that? :P 16:13 Calinou Y being vertical is normal, it works like that in real world 16:14 kaeza [13:13:46] Y uses MC as vertical <-- wut 16:14 Calinou MC uses Y as vertical* 16:14 [0gb_us] I thought x and y were the horizontal in almost everything but Minetest. So that's wrong then? 16:14 khonkhortisan If I draw an xy graph, then I glue a pencil to it, the pencil is Z and vertical unless I tape the graph to the wall. 16:15 [0gb_us] khonkhortisan: Exactly my thoughts. 16:15 khonkhortisan opengl uses y vertical, blender uses z vertical 16:16 kaeza khonkhortisan, I find Y as vertical more natural 16:16 kaeza since 2D coord system uses Y for vertical 16:16 rubenwardy It is because DirectX uses Z as depth 16:16 kaeza the Z is just an added dimension 16:17 rubenwardy http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10223162/why-does-directx-use-a-flipped-y-axis 16:17 rubenwardy kaeza is right 16:17 rubenwardy projection 16:17 kaeza ^ that 16:17 [0gb_us] When you tell someone your coordinates, it seems odd that you leave out the middle coordinate, not the end coordinate. So you tell them (x, z), not (x, y). 16:18 khonkhortisan Yes, I like it when the vertical coordinate is separate 16:18 khonkhortisan (h, h, v) 16:19 khonkhortisan I assume 2d coordinate systems are horizontal 16:19 [0gb_us] Me too. 16:19 [0gb_us] Like a map. 16:20 khonkhortisan so things are going in cardinal directions, instead of U, UE, DE, D, DW, W, UW 16:20 [0gb_us] A vertical map would be useless. 16:20 khonkhortisan UEU up-east-up 16:20 ShadowNinja markveidemanis: get rid of your cloak or use a proper IRC client, you canse five messages when you join 16:20 ShadowNinja cause* 16:21 khonkhortisan joinweb, quit host, join cloak, quit host, join web 16:21 rubenwardy I think it makes more sense 16:21 khonkhortisan Both ways are used by different programs 16:21 rubenwardy I got a big surprise when I first did 3d stuff in maths, I had always though Y was up. 16:21 NakedFury if the plan was to hide ip it fails big fucking time 16:21 rubenwardy My virtual world was turned upside down 16:22 rubenwardy or sideways rather 16:22 rubenwardy :P 16:22 khonkhortisan With four dimensions, it's x y z w 16:22 rubenwardy w? 16:23 khonkhortisan xyzw can also describe a quaternion 16:31 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Transform alpha channel as well in shader ddd2b18321 2013-04-25T09:30:01-07:00 http://git.io/UKsMNg 16:35 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: kahrl is back 386108f982 2013-04-25T09:32:49-07:00 http://git.io/4Ae2LQ 16:39 * rubenwardy is going to try to make a mob mod 16:39 PilzAdam simple mobs API? 16:40 rubenwardy no 16:40 rubenwardy scratch 16:41 rubenwardy just for fun 16:41 rubenwardy no promises 16:41 sokomine it would be great if simple mobs and mobf could share the same mob definition (ok, perhaps too much work in relation to the amount of mobs) 16:42 rubenwardy I am making it slightly different so that you can register ai types and plugins 16:43 sokomine ai types? for what? 16:43 rubenwardy Like a class 16:44 rubenwardy hmm, what shall I call it 16:44 rubenwardy ... 16:45 sokomine hm, yes, and what for? i might have missed the beginning of the discussion 16:46 rubenwardy IE: you have a chicken and a sheep, and they both use the animal class 16:46 rubenwardy graze, walk around, do not fly 16:48 sokomine but we do have that already? it's called mobf (or, with less functions, simple mobs) 16:48 [0gb_us] http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/small/35181632.jpg 16:48 [0gb_us] http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4045/4397036908_4a6f180cb0_z.jpg 16:48 PilzAdam rubenwardy, call your new mobs mod YAMM 16:48 PilzAdam Yet Another Mobs Mod 16:48 sokomine :-) 16:48 rubenwardy good ide 16:48 rubenwardy a 16:49 rubenwardy ah [0gb_us] 16:49 sokomine what we could really need - apart from perhaps feedback for sapier - are new models for further animals 16:49 rubenwardy can mobf define ai types with the api? 16:49 NakedFury deer, ram, buffalo, rhinos, etc 16:50 sokomine it does offer diffrent types of behaviour. calling it "ai" might still be a bit exaggerating 16:50 sokomine and it depends a lot at what you consider "ai" in this case 16:50 sokomine mobs can mostly be configured, and there are different movement algorithms. you can also influence their state change 16:51 sokomine for example the version of the trader i'm experimenting with can now sit down on chairs, sleep on beds etc. - the correct stage (=animation model) is only entered when such a furniture object is nearby 16:52 sokomine so what do you consider ai and what should it do? the problem there is that there's not much time/cpu cycles per mob, and there is no guarantee that it will be offered time in time to notice that it's heading off a cliff... 16:53 rubenwardy I am just experimenting ATM 16:53 sokomine well, what is your goal? :-) (at least the immediate one) 16:54 rubenwardy to make an extendible framework 16:54 rubenwardy that is fast 16:54 sokomine oh. mobf is already... 16:54 rubenwardy meh 16:56 sokomine if you keep your animals locked up in a fenced-off area where they can't fall to their death and avoid aggressive mobs it works well - even with very large amounts of mobs 16:56 MinetestBot GIT: (Sapier at GMX dot net) commited to minetest/minetest: Move player collisionbox to player class 88ffb3f73b 2013-04-25T09:53:50-07:00 http://git.io/CJKqOw 16:56 sokomine (and on a slow computer) 16:57 rubenwardy maybe I could make a plugin in network that where you can use components 16:58 sokomine what kind of components are you thinking of? 16:58 rubenwardy "YAMM:sheep",{c={"mob","grazing","avoid"},} 16:58 rubenwardy each component checks for events and then reachs 16:59 rubenwardy *reacts 16:59 sokomine ah, ok. well, the grazing is already covered by a movement pattern. and wolfs do hunt players (they don't hunt sheep to my knowledge; they linger under their tree and wait for unsuspecting players passing by :-)) 17:01 sokomine one major problem with all these mobs and interaction and intelligence is that most of the time most of the world isn't active at all 17:02 rubenwardy so prediction 17:04 kahrl I wonder if a middle ground between active and inactive blocks would work 17:04 kahrl half active blocks 17:05 kahrl ABMs would only run rarely there, but mobs' on_step would run 17:06 sokomine maybe 17:06 sokomine it's hard to tell what would be best there 17:06 sokomine maybe for some purposes an extra master that checks and keeps track on what's going on 17:07 rubenwardy maybe instead of basing it around entities it should be based around tables 17:07 sokomine some further luaapi functions might help a lot as well 17:09 rubenwardy how do you remove entities? 17:12 rubenwardy self.object:remove() 17:24 PilzAdam git reset --hard 4e249fb3fbf75f0359758760d88e22aa5b14533c 17:25 PilzAdam ^ that brings you to the first commit in the minetest repo 17:25 PilzAdam it already has mese and rats 17:39 Jordach rubenwardy, you have a bug with nodebox gen 17:40 ShadowNinja sfan5: My bot uses the public serverlist now, with less code and imports 17:40 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: server 17:40 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Public Minetestserver | minetestserver.us.to | Clients: 0/7 | Version: 0.4.6 | ping: 0.250 17:40 rubenwardy Jodach: tons 17:40 rubenwardy *Jordach 17:40 rubenwardy Any info? 17:41 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86458#p86458 17:41 rubenwardy just a build bug 17:42 Jordach youre the maintainer, you fix it 17:42 rubenwardy I am 17:46 sfan5 ShadowNinja: would you pull for sfan5/minetestbot-modules 17:46 sfan5 ? 17:46 sfan5 *create 17:46 rubenwardy Jordach: I rebuilt in release mode 17:46 Jordach sweet 17:47 PilzAdam Jordach, you are on windows again? 17:47 Jordach PilzAdam, not at home 17:47 rubenwardy brb 17:48 Jordach rubenwardy, still debug 17:53 MinetestBot GIT: Zeg9 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix serverlist on -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 (use path_user instead of path_share) c33b993397 2013-04-25T10:49:28-07:00 http://git.io/wDl0Cg 17:55 kaeza2 IDK why don't they just make a topic instead of spamming other topics: http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=5293 18:00 Calinou that's spanish people :3 18:00 * Calinou is very far away 18:01 ShadowNinja sfan5: Well I use Limnoria... 18:01 sfan5 hm 18:01 kaeza Calinou, portuguese* 18:02 ShadowNinja You should try it, more complex but much better imo 18:02 sfan5 http://servers.minetest.net/list is JSON, way easier to parse.. 18:03 sfan5 !g Limnoria 18:03 MinetestBot sfan5: https://github.com/ProgVal/Limnoria 18:04 ShadowNinja sfan5: The related code: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5601855/ 18:05 sfan5 Limnoria seems to be nice, but i won't port all the modules to limnoria 18:06 ShadowNinja I have already ported !up and !server, just about everything else is already available in a module 18:07 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload server 18:07 MinetestBot sfan5: (version: 2013-04-25 18:06:40) 18:07 sfan5 !server 18:07 MinetestBot sfan5: NotObamaland | zenoheld.minetest.net | Clients: 1/10 | Version: 0.4.6 | ping: 0.338 18:07 sfan5 ok 18:08 sfan5 http://git.io/IZVyKw 18:08 ShadowNinja You can also change configuration, capabilities, modules, etc while the bot is running, phenny can only reload modules 18:09 ShadowNinja What is that check at the top of !server for? 18:10 VanessaE hi all 18:10 ShadowNinja Hello VanessaE! 18:10 sfan5 ShadowNinja: antiabuse module 18:11 ShadowNinja Oh! is that !ignore? 18:12 sfan5 yes 18:12 kaeza interesting: http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=AntiGriefer-Community 18:12 sfan5 there was also not-too-many-messages-in-2-secs but that confused people 18:12 kaeza I think someone should do something like that on MT 18:13 ShadowNinja Hmmm, Limnoria has a nice clean way of doing that, and you can also ignore per-channel (as ShadowBot is doing right now) 18:13 sfan5 i some guy would merge the lua curl thing, MT global bans would be possible 18:14 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzEXsnF2miQ&feature=youtu.be 18:14 harrison mirroreyed aspiedog 4 profit 18:15 ShadowNinja Yes, and much more, the issue is security, it doesn't work terribly well with the security patch I think, but nobody will merge that either so... 18:19 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rssnotify 18:19 MinetestBot sfan5: (version: 2013-04-25 18:19:00) 18:20 ShadowNinja sfan5: Are there other things that you can think of that a Limoria MinetestBot would need? It already has !up, !server, git commit reporting and a bunch of other commands from default plugins (you can see them by PMing it !list and !list ). 18:21 sfan5 ShadowNinja: ideally ShadowBot would need all functionalities of MinetestBot 18:21 ShadowNinja As far as I know it does, and more 18:22 Jordach PilzAdam, is singlenode mapgen mgv7 18:22 Jordach or is it indev 18:23 ShadowNinja Jordach: singlenode is singlenode, it is its own mapgen 18:23 PilzAdam ^ 18:23 rubenwardy Jordach: damn 18:25 VanessaE http://m.ifunny.mobi/p/RWLB4i8J ... you DRUNK my battleship! :( 18:26 kaeza VanessaE, don't make me remind you your state last new year :P 18:26 VanessaE :P 18:26 VanessaE yeah yeah 18:26 rubenwardy Jordach: turns out I used the wrong thing to turn it into release, not debug. 18:27 rubenwardy Works now 18:27 rubenwardy 1.0MB to 39KB 18:27 VanessaE kaeza: I know I was more pickled than a cucumber :) 18:27 kaeza haha 18:30 rubenwardy Done: http://ubuntuone.com/3BS7q3EDQ4o8qzuHL424Uc 18:35 kaeza I knew it! http://m.ifunny.mobi/p/kwbzSj8J 18:41 rubenwardy sokomine: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/b5cd1a01049e0c935ecf 18:44 ShadowNinja Why is the access list for #minetest public but the one for #minetest-dev private? 18:44 kaeza john_minetest, lol 18:44 VanessaE haha 18:45 ShadowNinja lol 18:45 rubenwardy huh? 18:45 rubenwardy is it? 18:47 ShadowNinja /msg ChanServ access #minetest list /msg ChanServ access #minetest-dev list The second one says "You are not authorized to perform this operation." 18:47 ShadowNinja The first works properly 18:54 sokomine john_minetest: the problem with deactivated npc starts when they're supposed to do more complex actions, execute chains of events. e.g. when i'd like them to carry something from a to b, that wouln't work because the mob would get deactivated halfway inbetween 19:00 MinetestBot GIT: (proller@github.com) commited to minetest/minetest: Tune finite liquids, indev huge caves d83602d98e 2013-04-25T11:59:32-07:00 http://git.io/SHmmKQ 19:02 ShadowNinja sfan5: Your author "Fix" isn't realy a fix 19:02 sfan5 ShadowNinja: .. 19:03 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rssnotify 19:03 MinetestBot sfan5: (version: 2013-04-25 19:03:29) 19:03 sfan5 ShadowNinja: fixed 19:04 ShadowNinja What was the issue? 19:04 sfan5 ShadowNinja: the code that set the commiter name to the realname if it isn't found was _before_ the code that uses the email as realname 19:05 sfan5 or explained as code: http://git.io/AlVAzg 19:07 ShadowNinja Hmmm, but that still doesn't fix the real issue, that the commiter name is sometimes empty, is that an issue with github? 19:07 khonkhortisan technology requires filial supervision 19:08 sfan5 ShadowNinja: github displays the nickname, but the git.name setting from the commiter is used directly in the rss feed 19:30 jojoa1997|Tablet Hi all 19:33 ShadowNinja sfan5: ShadowBot can now run commands inside messages, for example ,,hello 19:33 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Hello! 19:34 sfan5 ShadowNinja: .....interesting 19:34 ShadowNinja MessageParser plugin with a regexp, commands with spaces are run as ,,(up 127.0.0.1) 19:34 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: 127.0.0.1:30000 is up (0.099ms) 19:35 Jordach hey 19:35 ShadowNinja Hello Jordach! 19:35 Calinou hi unaffiliated guy 19:36 ShadowNinja lol 19:36 Jordach ShadowBot, hey 19:36 Jordach anyways 19:36 Calinou unaffiliated master race 19:36 Jordach i had a new stairs idea 19:36 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: lobotomy remove 19:36 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded. 19:36 ShadowNinja Jordach: do it now 19:36 Jordach ShadowBot, instead of two big huge stairs, have four tiny stairs 19:37 ShadowNinja Well, hey, shadowbot 19:37 ShadowNinja huh? 19:37 Calinou inb4 tinystairs mod 19:38 Jordach Calinou, theyre more useful than the fat and lazy big ones 19:38 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: lobotomy add 19:38 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded. 19:38 Calinou (don't ask, I won't add that to moreblocks, nothing smaller than 1/8 node) 19:40 sfan5 gethostbyname("127.0.0.1") fails with unknown host 19:40 BlockMen hi 19:40 sfan5 ... 19:40 BlockMen does someone know where "minetest.get_dig_params()" is defined? 19:40 sfan5 maybe i should use the _right_ argv index to call gethostbyname 19:41 sfan5 BlockMen: i think scriptapi.cpp 19:41 BlockMen sfan5, thx. will take a look at... 19:42 jojoa1997|Tablet can i make a craftitem look like a node? 19:43 Calinou no 19:43 Calinou the inventory image, maybe minetest.inventorycube("texturename.png") will work 19:43 Calinou for wield item, nope 19:43 BlockMen sfan5, found. 19:43 Calinou hi BlockMen, by the way :P 19:43 jojoa1997|Tablet no i mean when you drop it 19:44 Calinou nope 19:44 jojoa1997|Tablet blockmen maybe have beds have an exit sign in case you want to leave the bed? 19:44 BlockMen lol. also hi 19:44 Jordach Calinou, http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-250413-204318.php 19:45 BlockMen jojoa1997, you mean like the "leave bed" button in mc? 19:45 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah 19:45 jojoa1997|Tablet but not like that 19:45 jojoa1997|Tablet just a way to leave the bed 19:45 Calinou jump? 19:45 jojoa1997|Tablet no 19:45 BlockMen Calinou, no. disabled 19:45 Calinou suggestion: when sleeping set move speed to 0 (prevent move) 19:46 jojoa1997|Tablet maybe shift 19:46 Calinou when holding jump key, set it back to 1 and leave bed 19:46 Calinou shift is stupid 19:46 Calinou what if you enter bed while holding shift 19:46 jojoa1997|Tablet i am putting out idesa 19:46 Calinou and what if you want to use a OS-wide shortcut that uses shift, without alttabbing 19:46 BlockMen i dont think that it needs that. the player get "pushed" out of bed after 2 seconds... 19:46 jojoa1997|Tablet i like the way minecraft does it but i dont want to be criticized 19:46 Calinou or just right click it :P 19:46 BlockMen or had you problems like get stuck? 19:47 Calinou "leave bed" button is useless 19:47 jojoa1997|Tablet BlockMen what if you want it to stay night 19:47 Calinou in minecraft, pressing escape will also leave bed 19:47 jojoa1997|Tablet and accidentally click the bed 19:47 jojoa1997|Tablet ok then esc 19:47 BlockMen can we get esc event in lua? 19:49 Calinou jojoa1997|Tablet, btw, did you add hunger to minitest? 19:50 jojoa1997|Tablet no 19:50 jojoa1997|Tablet not yet 19:50 Calinou BlockMen made a hunger mod; it still needs tweaks (eg. don't deplete hunger when not moving) 19:50 jojoa1997|Tablet oh 19:50 jojoa1997|Tablet ok well i will wait for fix 19:51 BlockMen that mod need a LOT of work... 19:51 jojoa1997|Tablet BlockMen does it have a HUD 19:51 Jordach ding ding ding 19:51 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86505#p86505 19:51 Calinou it does 19:51 BlockMen and yes, thats what it is for. to show lua... 19:51 BlockMen *hud 19:51 Calinou BlockMen, a lot of work? it already works, no? 19:52 jojoa1997|Tablet Block 19:52 BlockMen yes, it works in basics. but the positions are not good 19:52 jojoa1997|Tablet BlockMen when you think it is ready pm me 19:52 BlockMen it does not check if you dig, run, etc.. 19:52 jojoa1997|Tablet for now i am taking a week break to actually play minecraft 19:52 BlockMen jojoa1997, it maybe never will. idk weather i will continue development 19:52 jojoa1997|Tablet this is my first night ingame(in survival) 19:52 Calinou you can play both at same time, you know :P 19:53 BlockMen *wheather 19:53 Calinou also, singleplayer is booooring 19:53 BlockMen *whether 19:53 BlockMen idk...lol 19:53 * Calinou plays MC multiplayer since november 27th, 2010 19:53 jojoa1997|Tablet Calinou i get lucky for 30 minutest 19:53 jojoa1997|Tablet minutes 19:53 * Calinou has the game since alpha 19:53 Calinou still waiting for DLCs, so that I can laugh at people who will have to pay for them :3 19:53 jojoa1997|Tablet DLCs? 19:53 Calinou downloadable contents 19:54 jojoa1997|Tablet ? 19:54 Calinou http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downloadable_content 19:57 jojoa1997|Tablet why wont you have to pay for them? 19:57 BlockMen Jordach, looks good 19:57 Jordach BlockMen, its not fully 1/4 yet 19:57 VanessaE Jordach: protip - /time 12000 before you take a screenshot. 19:58 Jordach oh sod that 19:58 jojoa1997|Tablet Calinou why wont you have to pay for them? 19:59 BlockMen Jordach, it looks like missing 2/16 to top 19:59 Jordach yeah, i saw 19:59 Jordach the nodebox editor isnt that accurate 19:59 Jordach i had a better model on the win 7 laptop 19:59 jojoa1997|Tablet i cant get the nodebox editor to work 19:59 * Jordach is happy to provide Nodebox models 19:59 BlockMen thats made with rubenwardys nodeboy editor? 19:59 Jordach BlockMen, yes 19:59 Calinou jojoa1997|Tablet, back in alpha, the TOS had a line stating you would get all future updates for free when buying the game in its alpha state 20:00 BlockMen wow, seems cool 20:00 Calinou so if mojang releases a paid DLC for the PC version, they're supposed to give it for free for alpha users 20:00 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah but isnt that not an update but an addon that isnt in the main game 20:00 Jordach BlockMen, more stairs anyone? 20:01 jojoa1997|Tablet can anyone make a download of rubenwardy's nodebox editor with all the needed libraries 20:01 jojoa1997|Tablet for Win 7 20:01 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, its already compiled 20:01 jojoa1997|Tablet i have the libraries and it doesnt work 20:02 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, actually do your own work or GTFO 20:02 BlockMen Jordach, more stairs? why? 20:02 jojoa1997|Tablet Jordach i have spent an hour trying to get ti to work 20:02 Jordach because having half slab sized stairs are shit 20:02 jojoa1997|Tablet i gave up around 10 minutes ago 20:03 Calinou 11 minutes now 20:03 BlockMen Jordach, thats an argument :P 20:04 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, i had the same bug as you 20:04 BlockMen ok, why have tools an diggable setting? who would dig tools? 20:04 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, this: http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=30679 20:05 VanessaE Jordach: it's been my experience that we also need something like a 1/3 stair 20:05 Jordach install x86 is youre 32 bit 20:05 Jordach VanessaE, the 1/4 stairs are good roofing items 20:05 jojoa1997|Tablet The procedure entry point _crtCreateSymbolicLinkW could not be located in the dynamic library MSVCR110.dll 20:05 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, install from that fuckin link 20:05 jojoa1997|Tablet oh sorry i wasnt looking at screen 20:05 Calinou VanessaE, buut... we also need 1/5 stairs 20:05 * jojoa1997|Tablet likes his bluetooth keyboard 20:05 VanessaE Calinou: er... 20:06 Calinou and 1/7.. 1/9... >:o 20:06 Jordach and corner variants 20:06 VanessaE no really, 1/3 is about the height of real stairs.. 20:06 VanessaE (if you're into modeling real-world buildings in MT) 20:08 * Calinou takes a ruler and sees 20:09 Calinou if one node is one cubic meter, then 1/5 stairs would be more realistic 20:09 Calinou my stairs are about 20cm each, a bit less even :P 20:09 Jordach http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-250413-210930.php 20:09 Jordach 1/3 stairs 20:10 VanessaE Jordach: looks good with the default wood. 20:10 Calinou these look good 20:10 khonkhortisan but not on the edge of the top step 20:10 Jordach Calinou, i quickly made that up in less than a minure 20:10 Jordach minute* 20:11 Calinou maybe the default stairs mod should use 1/3 stairs and slabs? 20:11 Jordach no 20:11 Calinou k 20:11 VanessaE Calinou: 1/3 and 1/4 stairs in stairsplus. 20:11 VanessaE (=two 6d nodes instead of 8 ;) ) 20:11 VanessaE put* 20:11 Jordach if you want the models, ask 20:12 Calinou we would also need 1/3 slabs, then people would also ask for 1/3 panels :P 20:12 Jordach no 20:12 Jordach the user will only ask if they need it 20:12 Calinou LOL? 20:12 Calinou no 20:12 Jordach does vanilla MC have panels? 20:12 Calinou no :P 20:13 Jordach and thats my case 20:13 khonkhortisan stairsplus is missing the half-filled diagonal stair 20:13 khonkhortisan three microblocks on the bottom, one on the top 20:13 Calinou (ir)relevant: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM1ODg 20:13 VanessaE Calinou: ok, add 1/3 slabs too, but panels/micro? naw. 20:13 Calinou I thought it would've been named the Sinking Ship, like a reddit user said :> 20:14 khonkhortisan That would be its name if enough people called it that 20:14 VanessaE Calinou: apropos, I'm in the middle of an upgrade to Raring Ringtail :) 20:14 VanessaE (13.04 that is) 20:14 Jordach nah 12.04 is better 20:14 Calinou you're currently downloading off servers whose upload bandwidth is congested? :3 20:14 Calinou Jordach, you're on 12.10 20:14 Calinou and /me is on 12.10 too 20:14 Calinou I let the early adopters do the QA for me :> 20:14 VanessaE Calinou: yep, and I was getting 2MB/sec. download is already done now. 20:14 Calinou 2MB/s O_o 20:15 VanessaE yup. 20:15 VanessaE I don't fuck around :D 20:15 Calinou my ISP promised again optic fiber 20:15 VanessaE I get this over cablemodem (!) 20:15 Calinou I replied to them, "hey, let's play a game of half life 3" 20:15 jojoa1997|Tablet jordach same thing happens with nodebox gen 20:15 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, which one did you go for 20:15 Jordach arm and x64 are not 32 bit 20:15 jojoa1997|Tablet X86 20:16 Jordach its pointless ctcping you 20:16 jojoa1997|Tablet oh duh 20:16 Jordach youre using blandroid 20:16 Calinou ARM has both 64 bit and 32 bit 20:16 Calinou lol blandroid 20:16 Calinou I'd call it adroid :P 20:16 Calinou Jordach, saying "ARM is x64" is totally incorrect btw :P 20:16 Calinou 64 bit != x64 20:16 jojoa1997|Tablet i am on my windows computer 20:16 Jordach Calinou, as in, architecture 20:17 jojoa1997|Tablet i have 64 20:17 VanessaE Calinou: have you thought up a better way to switch between wall/regular objects? 20:17 Calinou cool story 20:17 Jordach x64 20:17 BlockMen finally. i found a way to make inventory twaek usable for costum tools 20:17 jojoa1997|Tablet what is CTCP 20:17 BlockMen :D 20:17 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, download x64 20:18 Calinou VanessaE, can't /st force placement of all nodes the same way? 20:18 VanessaE Calinou: sure it can, I just opted to allow for an exception with slabs because it seemed obvious 20:18 VanessaE but if you wanna change it so that they also respect /st explicitly, go for it 20:18 VanessaE but. 20:19 Calinou maybe, it should work on all nodes :P 20:19 VanessaE I think what we should do is make it so that /st simply turns on wall detection or not 20:19 Calinou or /st cycles between normal/ceiling/wall 20:19 Calinou and automatic 20:20 jojoa1997|Tablet jordach same problem 20:20 VanessaE so if /st toggles to "off", then all objects are placed as floor/ceiling only, but when on, pointing at a wall places a wall variant (floor/ceiling still place floor/ceiling variants) 20:20 jojoa1997|Tablet do i place libraries in the file with the exe 20:20 VanessaE ok, your idea is better 20:20 VanessaE floor, ceiling, wall, auto 20:21 VanessaE /st with no param cycles, or /st {wall|floor|ceiling|auto} 20:21 jojoa1997|Tablet and Jordach i used the right installer 20:21 Calinou now to actually implement that, /me sucks at coding 20:21 VanessaE default to auto 20:21 VanessaE I'll see if I can hash something out later. 20:22 Calinou where is the /st command defined, currently, and what does it do? 20:25 VanessaE it switches between placing ceiling/floor stairs/panels and placing wall ones. 20:25 VanessaE slabs always place on floor/wall/ceiling automatically, microblocks on floor or ceiling I think is what i did there. 20:26 Calinou ah, k 20:26 VanessaE and I think I defined it in moreblocks/stairsplus.lua 20:27 VanessaE what I *wanted* to do was let the user switch modes by wielding a stairsplus item and punching with it - that works, but then there's no way to execute the regular digging code. 20:27 VanessaE so I left that out. 20:28 VanessaE (I used the on_use callback originally) 20:29 VanessaE brb, finishing this update. 20:35 Calinou count the bugs, VanessaE, for every 10 bugs found, a new node added to stairs+ 20:35 VanessaE eh? 20:36 khonkhortisan one stair per every 100 lines 20:37 jojoa1997|Tablet 50000 lines! 20:39 PilzAdam VanessaE, you wanna look at / test the flower branch before I push it? https://github.com/PilzAdam/common/commits/flowers 20:40 VanessaE PilzAdam: decided to go ahead and keep the extra code in flowers/mapgen.lua then? 20:40 PilzAdam hm? 20:41 PilzAdam ah, I benchmarked it: https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/5458821 20:41 PilzAdam its simply not worth to add it to default in some way 20:41 VanessaE oh ok 20:41 VanessaE I misunderstood. 20:42 VanessaE go ahead and merge it. I've already retooled my flowers mod 20:42 VanessaE I just have to delete a couple seconds and it'll blend in. 20:42 VanessaE oh also 20:42 VanessaE credit Ironzorg too. 20:42 PilzAdam so "Copyright (C) 2012 VanessaE, Ironzorg"? 20:43 VanessaE his name first, "Copyright (C) 2012-2013 Ironzorg, VanessaE" 20:46 NakedFury we gonna copyright mods now? 20:46 MinetestBot GIT: 0gb-us commited to minetest/common: Add flowers 34a590ae0f 2013-04-25T13:44:22-07:00 http://git.io/I7Boig 20:46 VanessaE NakedFury: all code is copyrighted by default. what matters is the license (WTFPL) 20:48 PilzAdam VanessaE, so, where do we include flowers? 20:49 PilzAdam definetly in build, but how about survival? 20:49 VanessaE yes 20:49 VanessaE in both cases, people will want them for something 20:49 VanessaE perhaps some mod will make potions out of flowers 20:49 PilzAdam yea, they are pretty nice for decoration 20:51 VanessaE brb 20:52 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/build: Include flowers mod from common c3e219cff4 2013-04-25T13:51:56-07:00 http://git.io/rUmCTw 20:52 VanessaE there we go. My system's now updated to 13.04 20:52 VanessaE and just in time to make a new build I gues ;) 20:52 VanessaE guess ;) 20:53 sapier lol I just removed unity in favour of xfce after unsuccessfully trying to add a second screen 20:53 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/survival: Include flowers mod from common 3acee4cb4c 2013-04-25T13:53:10-07:00 http://git.io/k6fdVg 20:53 BlockMen http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86518#p86518 :) 20:53 sapier after switching to xfce it worked instantly 20:56 PilzAdam what? 13.04 is out? 20:56 VanessaE yep. 20:57 sapier 13.04 is 9months support only am I right? 20:57 VanessaE yeah 20:58 * PilzAdam never done a distro update 20:58 VanessaE but it'll be 6 months and then 13.10 will be out, then 14.04 after that, which is good for 5 years or some such 20:58 sapier I think I'll stay at 12.04 at least for my laptop ... but maybe I switch to wheezy 20:58 VanessaE PilzAdam: went pretty seamlessly for me just now. 12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04 -> update my video driver, done. 20:58 Exio sapier: switch to wheezy - or testing 20:58 VanessaE three reboots and a few clicks and that was it. 20:59 sapier ubuntu is filled with crapware almost same extent as any sold laptop with windows on it is 20:59 VanessaE Exio: so which ones are those two? I forget... Debian old, rusty, or broken? :-) 20:59 VanessaE sapier: I run Xubuntu anyway. 20:59 * PilzAdam hits the update button 20:59 PilzAdam ah, now I get the "Update availible" notification 20:59 VanessaE PilzAdam: OH SHIT! NO!!!!!!!! 20:59 VanessaE ;) 21:00 Exio VanessaE: say whatever you want,as you are using it with shit on the top 21:00 Exio er, i mean ubuntu on the top 21:00 PilzAdam Ill upgrade tomorow 21:00 Exio :) 21:00 sapier xubuntu is filled with ubuntus crapware too ... It feels like windows comared to my clean wheezy desktop 21:00 VanessaE PilzAdam: one note: Update Manager and Jockey both got combined into "Software Updates" 21:00 PilzAdam I guess its not a good idea to start at 23:00 with a distro upgrade :-) 21:00 PilzAdam VanessaE, one note: I use Kubuntu 21:00 VanessaE PilzAdam: if you have a fast machine and 'net connection, it should take you less than an hour 21:01 VanessaE PilzAdam: oh ok, I guess jockey-kde still works? 21:01 PilzAdam yes, but I cant go to sleep when something breaks 21:01 VanessaE heh 21:01 Exio sleeping 21:01 Calinou VanessaE, upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 took me 5 hours to DL and install, to end with apt-get update unusable (because I left PPAs there) 21:01 Exio what is that? 21:01 Calinou I was still a linux newbie back then 21:01 Calinou but still 21:01 Calinou 5 wastes hours 21:01 PilzAdam Exio, its that thing for n00bs 21:01 Calinou I ordered a CD through shipit and used it 21:01 Calinou :P 21:02 Calinou sapier, ubuntu crapware? you can remove it just fine, I don't use plymouth, blueman, printer applet... 21:02 VanessaE Calinou: jeez :) 21:02 Exio lol pacman 21:02 sapier I don't want to waste hours to clean a fresh installed system ... that feels like windows 21:03 kaeza PilzAdam, what's the license for your font in signs mod? 21:03 kaeza wtfpl? 21:03 Exio rolling releases are, arch isn't unless you want to try some stuff for 10 minutes and so 21:03 PilzAdam kaeza, probably not 21:03 * PilzAdam doesnt care; forked from thexyz's mod 21:04 PilzAdam blame him when something is wrong :-) 21:04 Calinou sapier, it is worse to have to complete an incomplete system 21:04 Calinou john_minetest, +1 for rolling releases though. 21:05 Exio Calinou: you'll end with a system what is lighter and you will know what you are using 21:05 sapier imho ubuntu has become crap when they added amazon support ... and don't tell you can read soruce code to find all the other backdoors they might have added 21:06 kaeza PilzAdam, I found the original site, but does not say anything about licenses >.< 21:06 khonkhortisan This is your eye test for today: http://www.3dwonderstuff.com/Images/optical_illusions/stereogram_oi_dots_l.jpg 21:06 kaeza erhm... actually... it says "Freeware" 21:07 kaeza it also says "you can do whatever you want" O.o 21:07 sapier wow doxygen on ubuntu "657mb" ... I wonder what depenencys they added 21:07 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, how do I know if I passed? 21:07 BlockMen gd n8t everyone 21:07 sapier the windows version is hmm 10mb? 21:07 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, I see yellow squares on green ground, is that right? 21:08 khonkhortisan Cross your eyes enough that two red circles overlap into one. It should be a checkerboard pattern of circles that are far, and circles that are close. 21:08 khonkhortisan I see red circles on gray ground 21:08 khonkhortisan yay! 21:08 PilzAdam I would call a doctor if I were you 21:09 Exio lol 21:09 khonkhortisan bugs bunny made that joke 21:09 VanessaE PilzAdam: new builds posted. 21:10 kaeza you know what? screw this font. I'll make my own font with blackjack and hookers! 21:10 VanessaE kaeza: and integrate it into homedecor? ;) 21:10 kaeza VanessaE, new HUD in firearms :P 21:10 kaeza I only need the numbers 21:10 PilzAdam VanessaE, I dont really care 21:11 VanessaE :P 21:11 PilzAdam going to sleep; bye 21:11 kaeza wow 3 seconds between saying "bye" and leaving 21:11 kaeza that's a new record Adam! 21:12 Calinou hi Traxie21... weren't you leaving? 21:12 Traxie21 Tonight, yes 21:13 Calinou khonkhortisan, I see yellow squares on green ground, is that right? => too much pillz 21:13 Traxie21 Adding a quick kindle-restart script to my server so I can restart it when I hvae internet access 21:13 khonkhortisan heh 21:14 khonkhortisan So at least one other person here can see stereograms 21:15 khonkhortisan That isn't very easy to see. The first thing I see is a circle on the left, then some other edges. 21:15 Calinou ^ too much pillz again 21:15 * Calinou feels like he is watching an ad about maple syrup or something 21:16 khonkhortisan You're only missing out on a heightmap 21:19 VanessaE and...plantlife modpack updated, now with an abridged flowers called flowers_plus 21:19 VanessaE (since the main ones are in common/default now) 21:19 VanessaE er, common/flowers. 21:20 khonkhortisan this one has a sloping height http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fx_files/14859/1/stereogram.gif 21:21 VanessaE khonkhortisan: not bad, but maybe a larger sample? 21:22 VanessaE (for everyone else, that ^^^ is a cross-your-eyes random-dot stereogram) 21:22 khonkhortisan what do you mean by sample? 21:22 khonkhortisan er, higher resolution? 21:22 VanessaE nevermind 21:25 dante123 !up minetest.info.tm 21:25 MinetestBot minetest.info.tm:30000 is up (0.452ms) 21:25 Calinou cross-eye? "for those who cannot afford red-cyan glasses but can afford eye strain" 21:25 Calinou --xonotic 21:26 Calinou look at that image from far away VanessaE, you'll see linus torvalds :3 21:26 khonkhortisan The eye strain is if you're too close 21:26 VanessaE haha 21:26 Calinou zsoltisawesome, DAT NAME. 21:26 Calinou "WswPlayer" 21:27 Calinou I wonder how good he would be at warsow :p 21:27 zsoltisawesome huh? 21:27 zsoltisawesome lol 21:27 zsoltisawesome i suck at it 21:27 Calinou hi anyway :) and bye, good night everyone. 21:28 zsoltisawesome goodnight! 21:29 zsoltisawesome /disconnect 21:29 zsoltisawesome ouch 21:43 kaeza SOON: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1126528219.jpg 21:45 ShadowNinja kaeza: Neat! But the crosshair isn't centered quite properly, is that intentional? 21:45 kaeza maybe 21:45 jojoa1997|Tablet YES!! 21:45 jojoa1997|Tablet i got tnt mod to work good 21:45 VanessaE kanic 21:45 VanessaE kaeza: nice 21:46 VanessaE kaeza: coming soon, QuakeTest? ;) 21:46 kaeza ammo counter not working yet; just for display ;) 21:46 kaeza but each weapon has own crosshair 21:47 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1126828208.jpg 21:48 kaeza it also reverts back to default crosshair when no weapon is held 21:49 kaeza now to make the ammo thingy work 21:49 ShadowNinja Will it use images for the number displays? 21:49 kaeza they are images :) 21:49 kaeza a 5x3 font 21:49 kaeza err... 3x5 21:50 ShadowNinja Can you specify the size of text on the hud? (I haven't played with it much) 21:51 kaeza not really :/ 21:51 kaeza the scale param is used for something else 21:52 kaeza and too much overkill to try to add multiple fonts to HUD code 21:53 ShadowNinja hmmmm: feature request! It will also be less confusing as scale will actualy be used for scale. This would probably work best with freetype support enabled. 21:54 kaeza ShadowNinja, err 21:55 kaeza scale is used to scale elements 21:55 kaeza but does not work for text items yet 21:55 VanessaE ShadowNinja: ew, fuck freetype. 21:56 Exio wtf kaeza 21:56 ShadowNinja VanessaE: You prefer a big image with the characters tiled? 21:56 VanessaE it disables the ability to use bitmap fonts, and I presume the login status is still broken too. 21:57 kaeza Exio, wtf "wtf kaeza" ? 21:58 Exio 30/150 21:58 Exio seems... legit 21:59 Exio client-side prediction for that stuff would be nice 21:59 Exio well 21:59 Exio i take the last commits 22:00 Exio as a bye to my pink crosshair 22:00 kaeza ammo counter not working yet; just for display ;) 22:00 ssieb Just wondering if I understand correctly. Flowers are in common and used by build and survival but not minetest_game? 22:01 VanessaE ssieb: yeah 22:02 ssieb ok, but I guess it would be easy for me to add it to the list 22:02 ssieb why wasn't it added there too? 22:02 VanessaE yeah, just copy it to your regular mods folder if you need to 22:02 VanessaE dunno 22:05 khonkhortisan kaeza, I see you have black outlines on your crosshairs. Any luck getting outlines in vanilla? 22:06 kaeza khonkhortisan, you can just disable default crosshair and use an image 22:06 kaeza (preferably done by default mod) 22:06 khonkhortisan But I want the default crosshair with outlines :) 22:07 Exio kaeza: i still think the C++ way would be beterr 22:07 Exio better* 22:07 kaeza just make a cross in a painting program and outline it :) 22:07 kaeza Exio, erhm... what? 22:08 kaeza go code client-side prediction then 22:08 Exio prediction of what? 22:08 khonkhortisan Can a crosshair image be colored? 22:09 Exio https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/653 22:09 kaeza khonkhortisan, it's just an overlaid texture 22:09 Exio alpha and colorize support - defined by the client 22:10 Exio i really don't like the thing of lots of things being managed in the server - and "only" it 22:10 jojoa1997|Tablet will water ever push players? 22:11 Exio if you code it 22:11 Exio :D 22:11 khonkhortisan I think it still gets the flow direction wrong 22:12 kaeza khonkhortisan, is this crosshair better? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1128275030.jpg 22:12 khonkhortisan looks like the node gun 22:12 Exio lol 22:12 kaeza :D 22:13 jojoa1997|Tablet kaeza maybe get zooming and use real crosshairs 22:14 jojoa1997|Tablet and kaeza maybe you should magically put C++ coding in my head 22:14 kaeza khonkhortisan, you can also do this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_831631201.jpg 22:15 khonkhortisan Take a screenshot of the default crosshair. From the center, it goes 10 pixels up and left, but only 9 pixels right and down, even though minetest says to draw it equally 22:15 jojoa1997|Tablet muwhaha 22:15 Exio ffffff 22:15 jojoa1997|Tablet kaeza BOOK 22:15 * jojoa1997|Tablet gtg DINNER 22:15 khonkhortisan "The crosshair has been disabled by your administrator" 22:16 * kaeza has an idea 22:17 Exio what idea kaeza? 22:17 kaeza 1) get an screenshot of the windows "critical error" dialog, 2) add it in the center of the screen, 3)..., 4) profit 22:17 kaeza 3) ??? * 22:17 Exio write an ads mod 22:18 hmmmm setting the font size won't work without freetype. 22:18 hmmmm kaeza, by the way, just an aside: the convention in Lua API is to return nil on failure, true on success 22:18 hmmmm hud_change_builtin() had some sort of three-state return value that could be nil, true, or false 22:19 khonkhortisan anything not nil is success 22:19 kaeza hmmmm, you are going to rewrite it anyway, so meh 22:20 hmmmm well yeah 22:20 hmmmm i just wanted to point that out for future reference 22:20 Exio ah 22:20 hmmmm 'cause wouldn't that be considered a bug 22:20 Exio is there anything why isn{t the mouse?sens option in upstream? 22:20 hmmmm if people assumed that it would only ever return nil on failure but it failed and it didn't return nil 22:21 Exio er, ' and _ 22:21 hmmmm somebody has a problem with the mouse sensitivity option 22:21 hmmmm i don't know exio.... 22:21 kaeza I said it earlier today, I'm not touching the engine 22:21 Exio who hmmmm? 22:21 hmmmm shrug 22:21 hmmmm kaeza, again, you shouldn't be discouraged 22:21 Exio that seems i'm the only who sucks at C++ and Lua :( 22:22 Exio (read the and :P) 22:22 hmmmm i don't mean to step on your work or anything, and usually this doesn't happen... 22:22 hmmmm but that commit was really rushed for some reason 22:22 hmmmm no discussion about it 22:22 kaeza one reason was because the protocol command IDs was wrong (as celeron pointed) 22:23 kaeza but otherwise I admit I missed that return value bug 22:24 hmmmm erm 22:25 hmmmm also just curious, why did you decide to add a client event for this? 22:25 kaeza well, I have no idea if the thing is thread safe or not 22:25 hmmmm i should write something in the wiki about this 22:26 kaeza so I just tried to do what the other HUD stuff did 22:26 hmmmm the client data is processed in the same thread as the game thread 22:26 hmmmm yeah, now that i consider it, i don't understand why the HUD stuff did that either 22:26 hmmmm i should leave that go because it's already been done 22:26 hmmmm shouldn't be inconsistent 22:27 hmmmm anyway a client event is intended to be used for things like displaying a menu or what not 22:27 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/f/yDgrX2ey seems legit 22:28 kaeza hmmmm, →#-dev ? 22:28 hmmmm meh 22:28 hmmmm too late 22:29 hmmmm oh also one other thing 22:29 hmmmm you _can_ indeed access the local player from within Client::ProcessData() 22:29 hmmmm it's simply getEnv().getLocalPlayer(); 22:45 jojoa1997|Tablet VanessaE ping 22:45 VanessaE pung 22:46 jojoa1997|Tablet is it okay if i add flowers plus to minitest if minecraft has pots 22:46 * jojoa1997|Tablet checking for post now 22:47 VanessaE sure if you want, but it still depends on plants_lib 22:47 jojoa1997|Tablet i already added that 22:47 VanessaE ok 22:48 jojoa1997|Tablet sweet they have lilypads 22:49 jojoa1997|Tablet with minitest i might be adding converted texture packs 22:49 jojoa1997|Tablet also vanessae with your more trees mod does it allow defining trees easily? 22:49 VanessaE yes 22:50 VanessaE it takes about 10 or so lines of code to configure a biome 22:50 VanessaE and about 20 lines of code to define a tree. 22:50 VanessaE plants_lib API and minetest engine API describe the process 22:50 VanessaE (for biomes and tree defs, respectively) 22:51 jojoa1997|Tablet WHAT!?!?!? 22:51 jojoa1997|Tablet minecraft only has tulips and roses 22:52 VanessaE oh well :) 22:52 jojoa1997|Tablet meh whatever i will add correct stuff when i have time 22:53 VanessaE screw minecraft, let's workon making minetest *better*, not "equal". 22:53 jojoa1997|Tablet how come you just dont overlay a pot image with flower images 22:53 jojoa1997|Tablet minItest 22:53 VanessaE minEtest 22:54 VanessaE you work on minItest. 22:54 VanessaE and it's because that's how ironzorg did it. 22:54 VanessaE those are his textures, I saw no reason to change that behavior 23:21 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XjsFILvnjQ 23:23 mauvebic damn allergies - too bad buckets only hold water and lava :/ 23:26 NakedFury dammit im suffering Post-No-Sci-fi_series syndrome 23:26 mauvebic what finished? 23:27 mauvebic hannibal has a new episode, not exactly scifi, but pretty much the only thing still airing new stuff atm lol 23:27 NakedFury what! that already aired? I thought it started in may 23:27 mauvebic just finished dl'ing the 5th episode 23:27 hmmmm hey kaeza 23:27 hmmmm you around? https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commit/812881a5a65296235da93b722352002a22a4cba6 23:27 hmmmm do you approve of this? 23:27 mauvebic the 4th was sliced up and release as a 22min web series 23:28 NakedFury god what has becomed of me when I axiously await new generic cop shows!!! 23:28 mauvebic "Electronic Arts Slashes Workforce - The game maker says it's making the move to align its workforce closer to mobile " <-- easier to rip people off through phone bills XD 23:28 hmmmm if you wanted to disable the crosshair and the healthbar, but not change the other things, you'd do player:hud_set_flags({crosshair=false, healthbar=false}) 23:28 mauvebic ya mean 'law order' ? 23:28 hmmmm and say you wanted to re-enable the healthbar some time later on 23:29 hmmmm then player:hud_set_flags({healthbar=true}) 23:29 hmmmm yea? :) 23:29 kaeza hmmmm, checking 23:29 NakedFury mauvebic how do you think space battles will happen? static parked ships shooting each other or ships zipping past at thousands of miles per minute barely having time to shoot each other? 23:30 kaeza hmmmm, will it support a mask as I decribed? 23:30 mauvebic dont ask me, space battles were so expensive growing up, TNG hardly had em lol 23:30 mauvebic talking about game space battles? 23:30 hmmmm if you checked, you'd know the answer is yes 23:30 kaeza otherwise you would need a getter function 23:30 mauvebic apart from Homeworld 1 & 2, they mostly suck in all games lol 23:31 NakedFury well how would you envision them happening. civil war line battles style or moving and zig zaging all over the place with specific windows of opportunity to hit each other 23:31 hmmmm see here https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commit/812881a5a65296235da93b722352002a22a4cba6#L8R926 23:31 mauvebic yeah but, space battles on tv, or games? im a little confused lol 23:31 hmmmm any flag that is to not be modified is simply not added to the mask 23:32 NakedFury in real life in a couple of thousands of years maybe 23:32 NakedFury or just simply in games and shows 23:32 mauvebic i doubt there will still be competing (human) nations by the time were good enough to arm space ships lol 23:33 mauvebic and if we ever get that far 23:33 kaeza hmmmm, have you tested it? 23:33 hmmmm yes 23:33 kaeza seems ok to me 23:34 kaeza except for a small thing 23:34 kaeza you need to specify what happens when a field is nil in the docs 23:35 kaeza it's implied, but not very clear 23:35 NakedFury a friend thinks ships will be parked while shooting each other 23:35 hmmmm https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commit/dc8a2c894671e991912a7aa0962ca3a08c90ba20 23:36 kaeza and lua_api.txt has too much ambiguous stuff in there already 23:36 hmmmm i think that's a result of the documentation being mostly an afterthought 23:36 kaeza that looks better :) 23:37 jojoa1997|Tablet how can i make a node do something within a random radius were the r is random every time? 23:37 kaeza hmmmm, will you push that now? 23:37 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Generalize hud_builtin_enable into hud_set_flags d3f0ce6224 2013-04-25T16:37:36-07:00 http://git.io/vQt-pQ 23:37 kaeza too late ;) 23:38 hmmmm hmm 23:38 kaeza hmm? 23:39 hmmmm now if there's any other attributes for a builtin hud that you can think of, we'd add it using that function 23:39 mauvebic a friend thinks ships will be parked while shooting each other 23:39 hmmmm that isn't necessarily setting visibility 23:39 mauvebic ^ im looking forward to seeing what battles are like in warspace 23:40 hmmmm always need to think of the future when doing something that might break compatibility 23:41 kaeza I hope there are no shortcomings in those changes then 23:41 hmmmm of course not 23:41 NakedFury I like homeworld 2 battles 23:42 mauvebic me too i especially like the STC and BSG packs 23:42 mauvebic though i found the limited map sizes frustrating 23:42 mauvebic they'res not enough space to "take", your basically having running battles 23:42 NakedFury I havent played in a while, but I like Complex mod and I hate the small size of maps too 23:42 hmmmm from this, you only gain code cleanliness, needing to send 1 packet instead of 4, and only needing to call one lua api to do what you wanted 23:42 hmmmm it's a win for everybody 23:43 mauvebic though there was this other game, looked very similar, but you had colonize planets, though the space battles were considerably worse than homeworld which came out ten years earlier lol 23:44 mauvebic Sins of the Solar Empire 23:44 mauvebic my god that sucked lol 23:44 jojoa1997|Tablet PENGUINS!!! 23:44 mauvebic Space Risk would have been more accurate title lol 23:45 NakedFury I could never do a lot in Sins. little resources and enemies came in the dozens to my few so very few ships 23:47 NakedFury gonna check out the Hannibal episode 23:47 NakedFury other series im watching: Defiance, Davincis Demons and nothing else 23:47 NakedFury television is dry for future spaceship sci fi 23:48 mauvebic im keeping up with revolution, SVU and hannibal mostly 23:48 mauvebic with limited likes its hardly worth a cable bill lol 23:49 mauvebic rumours that netflix might pick up Jericho for new season(s) 23:49 NakedFury SVU? 23:50 NakedFury why pay cable when episodes are online in 1 hour? but then who watches the show for raising the ratings and not having it cancelled! 23:50 mauvebic aka law & order perverts 23:51 mauvebic i love how that show they always secure 2-3 more confessions than there are suspects lol 23:51 NakedFury yep 23:51 NakedFury and the: tun tun! Fifth street apartment C 23:51 mauvebic dunno if its some subtle joke on how confessions are unreliable lol 23:52 NakedFury I prefer psych, bones, and castle for my cop show fix 23:52 mauvebic dont know any of those lol but i remember L&O going a long way back lol my mother watched the original series from the start lol 23:53 NakedFury psych is for cop show and comedy fix 23:53 NakedFury bones and castle would be more normal serious 23:53 mauvebic comedy? hmm, since frasier went off the air, new comedies just haven't been that funny 23:54 mauvebic especially *hate* those fucking cut-scenes where they talk directly to camera 23:54 mauvebic that started with Parker Lewis Can't Lose 23:55 NakedFury well the protagonist is a white 30 something male from Santa Barbara USA. since childhood his father, a cop, trained him to look, always look and memorize, like photographic memory or whatever its called. Because of some situation he passes himself as a psychic and his best friend a 30 something shaved head black male from a pharmaceutical job helps him 23:55 NakedFury they goof off a lot 23:56 NakedFury wow no spoilers and a good description of the show 23:56 mauvebic meh, i already have photographic memory and its not all that great when the weird dreams come lol 23:56 NakedFury XD 23:57 NakedFury he uses it and his observant nature plus bluffs to pass as the pshycic, fuck how do I write this word dammit 23:57 mauvebic psychic 23:57 mauvebic i think 23:58 mauvebic neither of us are native enlish and god knows the anglos themselves can't spell so who cares lol 23:58 NakedFury I like spelling the correct words. helps me if I ever decide in some unknown future to become a science fiction english writter 23:59 mauvebic oh god, only if you like not having stable work :p 23:59 mauvebic besides if its anything like BSG, you get to make new (swear) words lol