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00:06 sokomine mauvebic: intrested in trying the new version of my replacer?
00:08 jojoa1997|Tablet he is leaving minetest
00:08 jojoa1997|Tablet he found another game
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00:12 kaeza hello jordan4ibanez
00:12 jordan4ibanez azeak olleh
00:13 mauvebic sokomine sorry was afk - cant even play minetest right now if i wanted to, cant start linux partition on hp w/o fixing the bootloader, and can't fix the bootloader until the wife gets tired of playing blockscape lol
00:13 jordan4ibanez ʍoɥ ǝɹɐ noʎ ƃuıop ʎɐpoʇ¿
00:15 sokomine oh :-(
00:15 sokomine hope you'll be able to fix it soon :-)
00:15 jordan4ibanez I watched paranormal
00:15 jordan4ibanez paranorman*
00:15 mauvebic wife even tought me something: you can combine colored lights to produce new colors, and the blocks blend to reflect it
00:16 jordan4ibanez It was fun while I was watching it, but it left some major holes when I thought about it after I was done watching it
00:16 mauvebic you should see the castle's she's making, effing epic
00:16 sokomine sounds intresting. can you combine colored light to white?
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00:16 mauvebic theres a plain white light block, if you combined the colored ones in great enough numbers, you get a brownish color lol
00:17 sokomine you ought to show some servers to your wife
00:17 mauvebic which servers?
00:17 sokomine minetest ones :-)
00:17 mauvebic well she built all the nicest castles here too
00:17 * kaeza points mauvebic to minetest.org:30004
00:17 kaeza :3
00:17 mauvebic at least, judging from screenshots thread
00:17 sokomine redcrab, kingarthur, shadowninja, vanessa...all have good servers
00:18 mauvebic we never played on public servers :p griefing, asking for permission, not us lol
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00:18 sokomine that's a pity. would be nice to be able to view those buildings
00:18 mauvebic + with all the mods i wrote better off playing local map to have access to it all
00:19 mauvebic sucks that zimg went down
00:19 sokomine and sometimes a new mod with a new texture can make quite a bit of change
00:19 mauvebic when i fix the bootloader i should be able to upload my best pics to my gallery site
00:19 jojoa1997|Tablet mauvebic host a server with fly,talk,fast and noclip
00:19 sokomine for example, on the notobamaland server i did build a house just because i like that sandstone brick texture so much
00:19 sokomine not only pics. visiting your buildings would be better
00:20 jojoa1997|Tablet and you and your wife get everything else
00:20 mauvebic well the old map we stopped building on two months ago
00:20 jordan4ibanez Maybe someone could host a Minetest Black server when 0.0.2 comes out? Maybe it's covegirl
00:20 mauvebic we had started a new one with mostly new pieces/nodes
00:20 jojoa1997|Tablet mauvebic can you update your websites pack edition
00:20 mauvebic ?
00:21 mauvebic yeah haven't uploaded most recent versions of my mods in at least as long (2 mo)
00:22 mauvebic in any case with 3/4 of my screens not working, i took the old site down
00:22 mauvebic and everytime i wanted to refresh mod links, ompldr was down lol
00:23 jojoa1997|Tablet ue dropbox
00:23 jojoa1997|Tablet or github
00:23 mauvebic ugh and ugh lol
00:23 jojoa1997|Tablet but git is out of the question
00:23 jojoa1997|Tablet why ugh at dropbox?
00:23 mauvebic registration
00:23 jojoa1997|Tablet so what
00:24 mauvebic so i have enough logins to try to remember lol
00:24 jojoa1997|Tablet dropbox is super easy
00:24 jojoa1997|Tablet mmauvebic  use one for aalll
00:24 iqualfragile gnome-keyring is great for those
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00:24 mauvebic oh yeah using the same login for all is reaaaallll smart
00:24 iqualfragile great idea, yeah, lets just use one password for all the services
00:25 mauvebic until you start getting a shitload of credit card applications in the mail that were supposedly requested by you
00:25 iqualfragile and if one of those services is malicious or get hacked we dont have any kind of problem, do we
00:25 mauvebic i dont need an account with every 2-bit service out there lol
00:25 jordan4ibanez Can you imagine how hard this game would be if it had collision detection for everything, and you needed to actually hit the nodes with your hand and tools
00:26 iqualfragile pwgen -cnsy 30 is the way to go
00:26 iqualfragile (well, i actualy use a higher number…
00:27 iqualfragile )
00:27 khonkhortisan If you run "pwgen -cnsy 30", it'll copy all your passwords and send them to iqualfragile
00:27 mauvebic at least these days theyre making the computer crime laws much harsher, wasn't the case when i got identity-thiefed 10 yrs ago lol
00:27 khonkhortisan http://www.bash.org/?244321
00:30 mauvebic "
00:30 mauvebic National Post
00:30 mauvebic Justin Bieber has abandoned his monkey in Germany" <--- had it taken away for spanking it too much
00:30 iqualfragile yeah, those germans
00:31 iqualfragile oh, wait, i am from germany
00:32 mauvebic if i were germany, i would have quarantined justin bieber and let the money go back to canada
00:32 mauvebic *monkey
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00:33 mauvebic we can't travel anywhere without apologizing for him, celine dion and bryan adams lol
00:35 sokomine there seems to be collusion detection for entites now
00:36 mauvebic thats when they team up to commit crimes?
00:37 sokomine iqalfragile: looks light the right type of password for minetest ,-)
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00:37 mauvebic :/
00:37 mauvebic col·lu·sion
00:37 mauvebic [kuh-loo-zhuhn]  Show IPA
00:37 mauvebic noun
00:37 mauvebic 1.
00:37 mauvebic a secret agreement, especially for fraudulent or treacherous purposes; conspiracy: Some of his employees were acting in collusion to rob him.
00:39 iqualfragile and as im from germany its 2:30 here and i need to get some sleep
00:39 mauvebic sleep is for the weak :p
00:46 mauvebic "New arrests expected as Via Rail terror suspects appear in court" <- doesn't say, where, when.... how reassuring lol
00:46 mauvebic or who
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01:27 jordan4ibanez I think I made these tools to expensive https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/Minetest-Black/commit/262df928e422fa056bd61485eba1a4b15098af26
01:28 NakedFury steel hammer head sure is
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01:29 NakedFury 6 steel blocks: 54 steel ingots
01:29 NakedFury and the anvil needs 7 of those blocks too
01:29 NakedFury very expensive early on
01:29 jordan4ibanez Well considering the amount of ores you'll be getting when you use these tools... xD
01:30 NakedFury thats why I said early on
01:30 jordan4ibanez True, it could be a thing you make when you have your house all set up and such
01:31 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/f/jPHA8aOy
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01:48 kaeza ShadowNinja, https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-kaeza_misc/blob/master/kutils/init.lua
01:49 kaeza whoops, forgot to document return value lol
01:50 * Kacey wants there to be a "mintest.register_multi-block()" function
01:52 kaeza Kacey, umm...what?
01:53 Kacey to make multi-block structures
01:53 ShadowNinja kaeza: neat, could this be a good raycaster for tnt?
01:53 kaeza test how well it goes
01:54 Kacey helps if i spell minetest right lol
01:54 ShadowNinja Can it return a table of all nodes between the two positions?
01:55 Kacey no it would be layers
01:55 Kacey like
01:55 Kacey layer1 = "blah"
01:55 Kacey starting from the bottom level
01:57 kaeza ShadowNinja, that could be done
01:57 kaeza ditto for entities
01:58 Kacey well i am off to bed
01:58 ShadowNinja How about providing two positions, or how can I convery positions to direction?
02:04 khonkhortisan If you want to improve particles and particlespawners, now's your chance to chime in https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/675
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02:07 kaeza1 ShadowNinja, that's up to you ;)
02:07 kaeza1 I coded this for the specific purpose which I described
02:08 kaeza maybe I can add a point_direction(p1, p2) function later
02:13 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: how about direction_lock = horizontal/vertical
02:13 khonkhortisan which horizontal?
02:14 ShadowNinja What do you mean?
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02:14 ShadowNinja It would be flat and face the player
02:14 khonkhortisan I don't know what you mean. When I say vertical, I mean the world y axis. What do you mean by horizontal?
02:14 khonkhortisan oh
02:15 ShadowNinja gtg, bye for now.
02:15 khonkhortisan bye
02:18 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Add option to use texture alpha channel 770305e28d 2013-04-23T19:15:51-07:00 http://git.io/ZgitPw
02:31 MinetestBot GIT: RealBadAngel commited to minetest/minetest: Fix to: addUpdateMeshTaskWithEdge a699bdb7a1 2013-04-23T19:30:09-07:00 http://git.io/UZQMvw
02:32 khonkhortisan "Thank's". The only way I can think of to use it in a sentence is: To thank's to express gratitude.
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03:18 MinetestBot GIT:  commited to minetest/minetest: Fixes possible crash when using hud_change with "align" or "offset" 33dd267fd9 2013-04-23T20:18:05-07:00 http://git.io/ZuUbLw
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03:52 kaeza dear g*d... firefox is slooooooooooooooow
03:53 khonkhortisan I set the world clock to realtime
03:53 kaeza even selecting text is slow as hell
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04:07 [0gb_us] I was talking to someone a bit ago, and he wanted all items (for example, lumps and ingots) to be placable as nodes. It could help with labelling chests that contain that item, or used on servers with shops to label automated shop nodes. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? He plans to try to build it, and if it doesn't go as well as planned, I'll build it, but only if there is a chance it will actually be pulled.
04:08 khonkhortisan item frames are close enough, no?
04:09 khonkhortisan http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5600
04:09 [0gb_us] Item frames use entities, so they're not as efficient as placable items.
04:10 VanessaE I need a bit of help if someone has a minute or two.
04:10 [0gb_us] Okay, how do I help?
04:11 ssieb kaeza: do you have any wordpress sites open?
04:11 VanessaE I need to override a particular field of a node if found, presumably by indexing it via the 'minetest.registered_nodes' table.
04:11 kaeza nope
04:11 VanessaE in particular, I want to force the node in question to have paramtyp2 = "facedir", but I can't safely redefine the node.
04:11 ssieb ok, I've found that leaving a wordpress site open makes my firefox run at 100% after a while...
04:11 kaeza ssieb, why the question?
04:11 kaeza ah
04:11 [0gb_us] Why can it not be safely reregistered?
04:12 kaeza no only forum.minetest.net and a couple other tabs
04:12 VanessaE [0gb_us]: because they're from stairsplus :)
04:12 [0gb_us] How does that make it unsafe to reregister the nodes?
04:12 kaeza (btw, FF bitched about a script in FB)
04:12 VanessaE [0gb_us]: I only need this forced setting code for testing purposes.  Once I'm 100% sure the rest of my code works, I will actually remove the forced setting.
04:13 * kaeza runs sudo apt-get autoremove firefox
04:13 [0gb_us] To set it, you HAVE to reregister.
04:13 VanessaE shit.
04:13 khonkhortisan I watch the channel and no one says anything. I look away, and that's the time everyone decides to talk.
04:13 VanessaE I can't just overwrite the value that should, in theory, be in..  oh.
04:13 [0gb_us] Set the value in the definition, then pass the definition back to register_node().
04:13 VanessaE I'll bet it was working just fine, but my code is being executed before stairsplus.
04:14 * VanessaE plugs it into stairsplus directly.
04:14 [0gb_us] Put stairsplus in your dependancies.
04:14 khonkhortisan VanessaE, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/661 ?
04:14 VanessaE [0gb_us]: exactly the plan.
04:17 [0gb_us] Any other thought on placing items? Or just "worthless feature, install item frames even though they needlessly use entities"?
04:21 VanessaE damn it.
04:22 khonkhortisan Would an item node use the item texture surrounded by transparency on every face?
04:22 khonkhortisan Like the hand node from minimal?
04:23 khonkhortisan If it was possible to make 3d particles then item frames wouldn't use entities
04:23 [0gb_us] It wouldn't be a cubic node.
04:24 [0gb_us] Most would probably be signlike.
04:27 VanessaE khonkhortisan: doesn't seem to be helping at all.  There must be something else I'm missing.
04:27 VanessaE (something specific to stairsplus)
04:35 VanessaE ok, my code works fine if I tweak stairsplus to give facedir to all nodes by default (this is absolutely necessary anyway)
04:35 VanessaE now if calinou would just show up. :)
04:35 jordan4ibanez There are many things you can think about, death and the fabric of reality is probably the worst thing to though
04:37 [0gb_us] OH! VanessaE, I figured out the issue.
04:37 VanessaE oh?
04:37 [0gb_us] You need to iterate over the node's definition, and copy it to a new array.
04:37 [0gb_us] THEN add the facedir thing, and reregister.
04:37 VanessaE oy. :(
04:37 VanessaE well it's ok, I already tested the code the way it will be used in practice anyway
04:38 [0gb_us] Okay, cool. Sorry I was too late then.
04:38 kaeza http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86190#p86190 :D
04:39 [0gb_us] kaeza: Too bad I'm broke, and can't afford those.
04:40 kaeza VanessaE, ^^^
04:41 [0gb_us] Drats. I can't use a custom default with the stairs from common, because the common plugins are run first, and stairs calls a function from common.
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04:41 [0gb_us] *calls a function from default
04:41 kaeza wb OldCoder
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04:42 OldCoder kaeza, ty
04:42 VanessaE kaeza: gone.
04:47 kaeza someone should modify the nyancat code to make the longcat
04:48 [0gb_us] What is the long cat?
04:48 kaeza GIYF
04:49 hmmmm hi
04:49 hmmmm does anybody here have Blockscape?
04:55 [0gb_us] What is GIYF?
04:55 [0gb_us] No, I don't have Blockscape.
04:55 khonkhortisan I image searched it and I saw a shore
04:56 kaeza [0gb_us], http://lmgtfy.com/?q=longcat
04:56 [0gb_us] Drats. Vessels needs default too, so I can't use the copy in common either .....
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04:58 [0gb_us] Kaeza: You know, I'm working on other stuff, and you're the one that wanted the long cat. I was considering coding it for you which is why I even asked. You don't need to be rude about telling me. Next time, I just won't offer.
05:09 kaeza [0gb_us], meh
05:10 kaeza sowwy, not meant to be rude, but seriously you need to learn a bit of internet culture
05:10 [0gb_us] Since when do I have time for pop culture, including internet culture?
05:11 [0gb_us] Most of pop culture is a bunch of idiots doing stupid things that other idiots thing are funny. WHy should I bother with that?
05:12 [0gb_us] ESPECIALLY Internet culture.
05:13 kaeza thanks for calling me an idiot :P
05:13 DMackey heh and least you thanked him.,
05:13 kaeza and calling 99% of this channel idiots
05:13 DMackey Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
05:13 DMackey I may be a bit slow at times but I'm no IDIOT dammit!
05:15 kaeza [0gb_us], you need to chill out a bit; do not be so upright man
05:15 jordan4ibanez Goodnight wompers
05:15 kaeza nite jordan
05:16 mauvebic upright != uptight
05:16 kaeza mauvebic, my englisch is not very good looking :/
05:16 kaeza sowwy
05:16 mauvebic when in doubt, use "wanker" :p
05:17 mauvebic my englaisse sucks just as much sometimes lol
05:17 kaeza herp derp
05:18 [0gb_us] kaeza: I didn't say you were an idiot.
05:19 [0gb_us] Internet culture in general.
05:19 mauvebic there ain't much you seem to like tho :/
05:19 [0gb_us] I'm fairly calm too, I'm just under a lot of stress.
05:19 mauvebic the wife?
05:19 [0gb_us] Who's wife?
05:19 mauvebic the thug life?
05:20 kaeza [0gb_us], if I may ask, how old are you?
05:20 mauvebic seriously though, you still in school?
05:20 mauvebic 23
05:20 [0gb_us] I'm twenty-tree, and in collage.
05:20 [0gb_us] *three
05:20 DMackey heh
05:21 DMackey He''s just a baby... I be 45 almost 46.
05:21 kaeza I'm almost 26
05:21 mauvebic well youre probably not in the social sciences, or computers, what u study?
05:21 [0gb_us] I'm studying computers, information technology.
05:22 mauvebic oh god, you know you're gonna have to learn to live with windows at some point :p
05:22 mauvebic oss jobs are there but not that plentiful
05:22 DMackey Back in the day when Win 3 was out, I resisted until it was futile...
05:22 kaeza [0gb_us], I did too... well... I never finished the course
05:23 mauvebic who knows though, by the time you finish you might have to go to india to find a job :/
05:23 DMackey I was born and raised on the command prompt.
05:23 * kaeza highfives DMackey
05:23 DMackey I still use the command prompt at times for things
05:23 [0gb_us] I do live with Windows, I'm just not happy about it. And I don't have to be, it's a terrible thing. It would be like being happy about skinning your knee.
05:23 * DMackey highfives kaeza back
05:23 kaeza lol
05:24 mauvebic well when you know you hate an OS, why chose a profession where you're garanteed to have to deal with it? spock says its not logical
05:24 DMackey I play with linux from time to time, learn what I need when I need it.
05:24 DMackey My Web/FTP server is on a Dell Poweredge 1750 server computer with Red Hat Fedora running on it
05:25 kaeza I just find funny how GNU zealots talk about "freedom" and crap like that and still try to create a Linux monopoly of sorts
05:25 kaeza I'm happy using both Linux and Windows
05:25 kaeza Windows=Gaming, Linux=Work
05:25 mauvebic me its other geeks, i chose not to do computers so i wouldn't have to deal with the likes of some types of geek (which you probably know who/what type by now :P)
05:25 DMackey Vanessa got me using Ubunto on my 2nd desktop here..
05:25 [0gb_us] Why do you think I hate it? If I didn't care about computers at all, I wouldn't care about Windows. So you think I should go into a career that I am NOT interested in?
05:26 [0gb_us] I game on Linux.
05:26 mauvebic you should do something that makes you happy, i can't picture you happy everytime you come across win lol
05:26 DMackey nice, I havent gamed on Linux yet myself I'll admit.
05:26 kaeza true gaming on Linux sucks IMHO
05:26 mauvebic yes, yes it does
05:27 mauvebic sucks the sweat off a dead man's balls
05:27 [0gb_us] If I can't make it run without Windows, I only use it if required to. No one demands that I play games, so that rules out Windows as a gaming platform for me.
05:27 * mauvebic transmits mental image
05:27 DMackey I did those Shadowrun Returns and Space Venture Kickstarters, they are going to have Linux editions of the games, I'll try them out for sure
05:27 kaeza mauvebic, :S
05:28 [0gb_us] Besides, Windows is so slow on my computer that gaming wouldn't be any fun, even without my deep distaste for Windows.
05:28 DMackey THis system here plays Win games Awesome... Except my dumbass put an ATI card in now NO OpenGL games work!!
05:28 mauvebic on my old p4 win was slower than linux (for a time) but on the HP they're the same
05:28 DMackey Like my Doom 3 BFG I was half way thru
05:28 [0gb_us] Also, when I first got this computer as a gift, it wouldn't stop crashing every few hours. Do you know what got it to stop? Replacing Windows.
05:29 kaeza DMackey, you play Doom3?? :D
05:29 kaeza that game is creepy as hell!
05:29 DMackey Yup, I have all the original discs here of Doom 3
05:29 mauvebic system crashing can mean anything
05:29 kaeza I just love it <3
05:29 DMackey Even better when hooked to a LOUD stereo..
05:29 mauvebic hell i had faulty capacitors leaking out of my old IBM, any OS would have crashed as it did
05:30 DMackey I had an old eMachine that had bad caps someone gave me, $6 on ebay and that bitch ROCKS now.
05:30 [0gb_us] mauvebic: If the system crashes weren't caused by Windows, why did removing Windows instantly fix the problem? And why has the problem not returned?
05:30 mauvebic e-machines from the 90's were notoriously bad
05:30 mauvebic i think you dislike windows enough that any excuse was good without looking into the cause :p
05:30 DMackey mine isn;t that old though
05:30 mauvebic since you dont know exactly why it crashed
05:31 DMackey I'm still running Win XP SP3 on this system.
05:31 kaeza [0gb_us], I have better support for OpenGL in Windows than in Linux, if wverything works in Win, should I assume it's Lin's fault?
05:31 kaeza every*
05:31 mauvebic hell there are bits of hardware that linux doesn't use because it hasn't got the drivers for it, so your problem could just be dorment
05:31 [0gb_us] I do know why it crashed, as I found the fix. Windows was causing the crashes.
05:32 * DMackey loves hacking the registry from time to time...
05:32 mauvebic yes, microsoft plotted against you and you're computer specifically by making it and only it crash :-) sounds logical
05:32 mauvebic *your
05:32 kaeza DMackey, HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\Shell\open\command = "notepad.exe "%1""
05:33 kaeza :D
05:33 [0gb_us] No, Microsft didn't plot against me, they're just bad at operating system development.
05:33 [0gb_us] *Microsoft
05:33 mauvebic all part of the ultimate conspiracy where bill gates teams up with the norh koreans to have you replaced with facsimile
05:33 mauvebic well, for shits and giggles, apply to microsoft when you're done school, im curious if they think you're good enough to write bad OS's :p
05:34 [0gb_us] Bill Gates and North Korea have no idea who I am.
05:34 DMackey I hate that friggin registry myself... way to many dang problems
05:34 [0gb_us] I don't want to write operating systems, and I REALLY don't want to work for Microsoft.
05:34 kaeza DMackey, I made that one for a friend, and told him to open that reg file to fix some system error he had
05:34 mauvebic cuz honestly the linux devs aren't much better, they just have different problems :p
05:34 DMackey WIndows is such BLOAT ware, drives me nuts.. Gimme the old .com files instead.
05:35 mauvebic why not? pays well enough you could afford all the right hardware for linux :p
05:35 [0gb_us] Though I would work for Microsoft anyway, if the chance arises. I could drop hints that might improve things.
05:35 mauvebic not like apple that uses vulcan mind-rape on employees who dont have all-crapple tech
05:35 [0gb_us] All Microsoft would need to do is take Linux, and alter it to their needs.
05:35 DMackey I still like playing with my EPROMS and my C64 instead
05:36 DMackey )gb, yeah Apple did that
05:36 DMackey -) +0
05:36 [0gb_us] I know, that's where I got the idea. Apple took BSD.
05:37 mauvebic dunno, im soured on the whole notion of OSS, it was a great scene ten years ago :P but just this afternoon, i got an automated email for a critical bug i filed 14 months ago
05:37 * DMackey uses mouthwash to get the bad Apple taste out after mentioning it
05:37 mauvebic still no fix lol
05:37 mauvebic no one wants to do the tough bits
05:38 mauvebic thats why you need money to pay people to do 'em
05:38 [0gb_us] I'm no Apple fan, but at least they don't develop Windows.
05:38 DMackey I wish Linux had beat Windows to death dammit!
05:38 mauvebic i would call macOS better lol
05:38 mauvebic *wouldn't
05:38 [0gb_us] *At least they're not to blame for Windows
05:38 mauvebic so who do you blame for linux sucking so much then?
05:38 [0gb_us] OS X is better than Windows, but not as good as Linux.
05:39 [0gb_us] Linux is underfunded, and is STILL better than Windows.
05:39 DMackey Im no Apple fan thats for sure MAINLY because I don;t own one or know how to use one.
05:39 [0gb_us] It's not perfect, but it WORKS.
05:39 mauvebic well of course, funding linux is another word for charity
05:39 [0gb_us] True.
05:40 [0gb_us] I'm not saying there is a good funding source to find. You just asked who I blamed.
05:40 [0gb_us] I blame funding.
05:40 mauvebic and most of the linux base seems to be contrarians, people who will always take issue with something, so why give to such a charity?
05:40 [0gb_us] But even WITH funding, Windows is a pile of crap.
05:40 mauvebic ubuntu almost made it, a few years ago, then they all went nuts
05:40 [0gb_us] I'm not saying people should fund Linux.
05:41 mauvebic naw some company should take the sources and make a decent product of it
05:41 [0gb_us] I simply answered a question.
05:41 DMackey There are way to many hands in linux...
05:41 mauvebic and most of those are political hands lol
05:42 DMackey I hate all these Distros... One Distro thats Awesome.. is what is needed.
05:42 [0gb_us] I agree.
05:42 DMackey to many fingers in the pot spoil the soup
05:42 mauvebic i dont get this 'evangelist' job description either, though its fitting for linux, evangelists try to convince you of stories they can't prove lol
05:42 [0gb_us] Also, there is so much duplication of effort, with the different distros.
05:42 DMackey Exactly!
05:43 DMackey I'm no programmer, just a tinkerer is all..
05:43 DMackey Linux Noob I be I guess.
05:43 mauvebic well how many forks of this game alone to date?
05:43 mauvebic the minute there's a difference of opinion anywhere, *poof* fork
05:43 [0gb_us] Microsoft tries to convince you Windows actually has security, but they can't prove it because it's not true.
05:43 DMackey I'm slacking, cold beer been sitting on the desk for 10 minutes now... ugh
05:43 [0gb_us] So that's not specifically a Linux thing.
05:44 mauvebic thats cuz microsoft cant be honest and tell its customers "well if youre stupid and click on anything without reading, its your own damn fault"
05:44 [0gb_us] Yeah, it's your fault FOR CHOOSING WINDOWS.
05:44 DMackey The noobs on the internet have screwed it all up.
05:44 DMackey I've been on the internet when it was all command line.
05:44 mauvebic and while security issues are one thing, there's no shortage of linux users either who fuck with things they shouldn't then go whining on the forums thats its broken
05:44 [0gb_us] True.
05:45 DMackey I hated when Windows started taking off myself, I wanted to see it DIE!
05:45 ssieb [0gb_us]: I haven't used a windows desktop for nearly 10 years now.  I only touch windows extremely rarely through remote desktop
05:45 mauvebic when it comes to constantly tweaking the desktop, the packages, the modules, wtv, linux users are #1
05:45 [0gb_us] Awesome, ssieb.
05:45 ssieb and yes, I have a real job in the computer field :-P
05:45 [0gb_us] I don't really tweak anything. I install stuff, but I don't really mess with it.
05:46 DMackey I would LOVE to dump Windows but since I fix computers for people, thats where I make my extra pocket $$
05:46 DMackey I have to keep up on it to help fix systems
05:46 [0gb_us] Windows breaks more, to keep you employed!
05:46 mauvebic if it weren't for stupid people doing stupid things and letting other stupid people do stupid things on their computers, there wouldn't be any repair biz
05:46 mauvebic lol and what do you think paid linux support is?
05:47 mauvebic they know damn well things change *all* the fucking time and documentation is scarce lol
05:47 DMackey A spider is crawling up my wall, IHATE friggin spiders!!
05:47 mauvebic you gotta worry about the motives of company who give away an OS and charge for the support lol
05:48 mauvebic or people who earn a real living from OSS and advocate that programmers should give away their work
05:48 [0gb_us] Yes, paid Linux support is available, and as Linux is always a work in progress, it will never be truly fixed.
05:48 DMackey Nope, thats what the Internets is for then.
05:48 [0gb_us] Yeah, I hate spiders too. So creepy!
05:49 DMackey I'm in the basement so I deal with them often the 8 legged evil bastards!
05:49 mauvebic anyways, theres plenty of hypocritical BS to go around for all the software paradigms lol
05:49 DMackey I still need to get this Minetest installed on a linux system one of these days.../
05:50 mauvebic shouldn't be too hard
05:50 mauvebic if not pre-packaged then compile
05:50 DMackey probably not BUT remember I'm a linux noob so to speak. I'll work on it one of these days..
05:51 DMackey need some hand holding from the beginning but then I should be fine
05:52 DMackey Ok I'm outta here for now. Nice chatting with ya all..
05:52 [0gb_us] Good night.
05:53 mauvebic nite, ill be off too, DL'ed all of the new Mad Men episodes, see if they dont suck as much as S05 lol
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07:18 kaeza I just bwoke my codeblocks :(
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07:28 [0gb_us] Sorry to hear that.
07:30 kaeza IDK why it just does not run the compiled program
07:31 * kaeza is going to nuke the D::B config
07:31 kaeza C::B *
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07:45 kaeza well... that fixed it
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08:21 kaeza ehm... can someone explain? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86197#p86197
08:22 mauvebic drugs
08:22 kaeza most prolly lol
08:23 kaeza I don't even understand a word of what he's saying
08:23 mauvebic either that or schools are getting worse lol
08:23 mauvebic you sure that guy isn't likwid lol
08:24 kaeza deleted lol
08:24 mauvebic didn't know you could do that lol
08:26 kaeza not me. I wonder if some mod did it or the guy just realized what he wrote lol
08:26 kaeza I don't have those magic mod powas
08:27 mauvebic spooky
08:27 mauvebic tho people cant delete own threads, just posts
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08:54 VanessaE how do I pass control back to the regular click-and-hold-and-dig function if I'm using an on_use callback?
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09:07 kaeza minetest.item_use()?
09:07 kaeza dunno
09:14 VanessaE I just want to be able to detect if I'm doing a shift-left-click, and if not, run the normal digging code
09:19 kaeza if (get_player_controls().sneak) then ... else ... end
09:19 * ShadowBot wakes up
09:19 VanessaE already got that part working.
09:20 VanessaE the problem is getting the wielded item to just dig normally if shift isn't held.
09:20 VanessaE the closest I've gottwn so far is to execute the pointed_thing's on_dig callback manually...but that skips the dig animation and probably a lot of other stuff.
09:20 VanessaE gotten*
09:21 kaeza that would be hard to do...
09:22 VanessaE guess it'll have to be shift right click then.
09:22 VanessaE meh.
09:23 kaeza actually... maybe not
09:23 celeron55 wtf, someone sent me a PM in russian
09:23 celeron55 oh that's many weeks old
09:23 celeron55 whatever :-D
09:23 kaeza lol
09:27 celeron55 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=80
09:27 celeron55 should this just be moved to trash
09:28 celeron55 we really should have automatic closing of topics that haven't been bumped in... eh, years
09:28 VanessaE or just automatically close them.
09:28 kaeza that guy is really high
09:43 * VanessaE sighds
09:43 VanessaE sighs too
09:43 VanessaE this is surely right in front of me but I am just not seeing it
09:47 jin_xi hey all, finally made the treegen description on the wiki: http://dev.minetest.net/treegen
09:48 jin_xi but formatting is messed up (i have no clue about wiki)
09:48 jin_xi the commands list for example.
09:53 Exio http://xkcd.com/1200/ - lol
09:53 Exio the tooltip
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10:11 VanessaE kaeza: [04-24 05:21] <kaeza> that would be hard to do...  <aeza> actually... maybe not
10:11 VanessaE Ok, I'm lost.  Help?
10:12 VanessaE ..and I'm doing this inside a register_node() call
10:12 kaeza depends exactly on what you're trying to do
10:13 kaeza do you want to have different "strength" depending on if shift is down?
10:13 kaeza or do you want different actions?
10:13 VanessaE I want to detect if the user left-clicks with an item in their hand.  If left click + shift, do one thing.  If left click alone, do the default digging action.
10:14 kaeza hmm...
10:14 VanessaE if I use the on_use callback, I can detect it easily enough, but I can't figure out how to call the old, default digging action when I need to.
10:15 kaeza I'm not sure about that with left-click
10:15 kaeza with right-click it should be easy
10:15 VanessaE it is...except of course shift = sneak for some folks
10:16 kaeza as you said, you either have the default tool action, or you fake it and get no crack anim
10:16 VanessaE yes.
10:17 kaeza I don't think that's possible currently, sorry :/
10:17 kaeza can't you use a separate action for left and right click?
10:17 VanessaE wouldn't help in this case
10:18 VanessaE I don't want to interfere with the normal digging code
10:18 VanessaE right click to place, left click to dig, like always.
10:18 VanessaE so what I need is a graceful way of detecting some kind of event the user can set off - so that I can toggle a flag.
10:18 kaeza and shift-rclick would be too cumbersome I guess
10:19 VanessaE shift right click is easy...but it conflicts with sneaking
10:20 VanessaE I'm working rewriting stairsplus to use 6d facedir
10:20 kaeza I guess that is nope.avi
10:21 VanessaE and I need to be able to toggle a flag to decide whether a given node should turned sideways on placement or just right side up/upside down.
10:21 kaeza if you override on_use (to detect shift+click) you can't call the degault digging code
10:21 kaeza -g+f
10:21 VanessaE lame.
10:22 kaeza ah... uhm... I guess I understandnow
10:23 kaeza you want to place a node in three ways depending on mouse button and shift state
10:23 VanessaE yes.
10:23 VanessaE sorta.
10:23 kaeza *and* you need to be able to dig when you have this node in hand
10:23 VanessaE yes.
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10:24 VanessaE I already know how to detect if I am pointing at a floor, wall, or ceiling, so that part's solved.
10:24 VanessaE and I know how to rotate the node to the right orientation in the case of the sideways objects.
10:24 VanessaE and a routine to toggle the flag that enables/disables that sideways mode is easy.
10:24 VanessaE the problem is finding a graceful, user-friendly way to call that toggle function.
10:25 VanessaE shift-left-click would have been ideal.
10:25 kaeza is it *really* needed to be able to dig with the item in hand? you could simply omit that part
10:25 VanessaE yes.
10:26 kaeza hrm
10:26 kaeza I don't think there's a solution then
10:26 VanessaE if I just skip that part, I expect it will irritate a lot of people
10:26 kaeza at least for now
10:26 VanessaE I guess I could use a chat command.  egh.
10:27 VanessaE celeron55: any insight?
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10:32 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:32 VanessaE hey
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10:55 VanessaE Calinou: https://github.com/Calinou/calinou_mods/pull/9
10:55 VanessaE this is based against calinou_mods git fetched a few hours ago.
10:56 VanessaE Calinou: note that I temporarily disabled the ability to stack thin slabs vertically into thicker ones.  Work-in-progress, etc.
10:56 Calinou :/
10:57 Calinou "We can’t automatically merge this pull request." aww
10:57 VanessaE :(
10:57 Calinou did you fix merging in creative?
10:57 Calinou if so, i'll put it then
10:57 VanessaE I just worked on the basics for now
10:57 Calinou ah, ok
10:57 VanessaE getting enough code into place to not break any maps
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10:58 VanessaE I'm not 100% happy with it, but it works.
10:58 Calinou lemme create a basic singleplayer world with the old nodes and see if conversion works :P
10:58 VanessaE wait.
10:58 VanessaE I have one ready to go :)
10:59 * Calinou finds HD texture pack loading of minecraft very leaky right now :P
10:59 Calinou 970MB of VRAM with 128x pack, on minetest a 256x pack uses 400MB at most
10:59 VanessaE Calinou: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/random_testing.zip
10:59 Calinou so I made my map with old nodes (a few wall stairs)
11:00 Calinou I'll download your map to see, too
11:00 Calinou going to merge your pull request by hand :P
11:00 VanessaE teleport yourself to -848,31,552
11:01 VanessaE oh, one issue I didn't do:
11:01 VanessaE I only tested the conversion routine against iron stone bricks.  There's a call at the bottom of stairsplus_convert.lua that does it
11:02 VanessaE duplicate that call for every material type you want to convert
11:02 VanessaE (I suggest adding the necessary code to the register_stair_slab_panel_micro() function_
11:02 VanessaE (so that other mods don't have to be changed)
11:03 Calinou seems to work
11:03 VanessaE \o/
11:04 Calinou oh cool, I found a tree with unknown node leaves :3
11:04 VanessaE lol yeah, the map I built that on was formerly used under moretrees
11:04 VanessaE it's literally my "wad it up and throw it away" map :D
11:04 Calinou I have a few unknown items in my hand
11:05 VanessaE yeah, I didn't do anything about the inventory
11:05 Calinou one to the left of circular saw, one to the right
11:05 VanessaE OH that
11:05 VanessaE well I didn't fix that either :D
11:05 VanessaE they're leftovers from the old map
11:05 VanessaE I don't know how to translate inventory entries, so I didn't approach that
11:06 Calinou :/
11:07 * Calinou will have to excuse himself to people losing their inverted/wall slabs/stairs: "we need to push More Blocks to the desktop"
11:07 Calinou how about this :>
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11:07 VanessaE heh
11:07 VanessaE well translating the names is dead easy
11:08 VanessaE translating the entries in an inventory leaves me completely stymied :)
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11:08 VanessaE now, if it were possible to .....hmm..
11:09 VanessaE I wish it were possible to register some kind of "soft aliases"
11:09 emptty Is there a way to get a map of the world ?
11:09 emptty I'm dead, and I respawned away, and I can't find my home again
11:09 VanessaE something that wouldn't actually *replace* the old nodes but rather that just makes them change visibly (so that the ABM would still work)
11:09 VanessaE emptty: minetestmapper.py
11:10 VanessaE in your utils directory I think
11:10 emptty VanessaE: thx
11:11 Calinou we need some readme on how to use minetestmapper.py, imo :p
11:11 Calinou (dependencies, usage, adding new colors)
11:11 VanessaE *nod*
11:14 emptty I  should include that in the debian packaging, too
11:15 VanessaE yes
11:17 VanessaE Calinou: I guess your having added facedir to all slabs is what caused the merge conflict?
11:17 VanessaE (because I did the same thing)
11:17 Calinou uh uh, I just noticed I registered circle stone bricks twice
11:17 Calinou fixed :P
11:17 VanessaE oh heh
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11:20 Calinou on my world, stairs are constantly rotating
11:20 Calinou every second
11:20 VanessaE uh oh
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11:21 VanessaE I broke something, didn't I? :(
11:22 Calinou reloading the world
11:22 Calinou still happens
11:22 VanessaE strange, as this code can only possibly ever execute once
11:23 Calinou this also happens to newly placed slabs
11:23 VanessaE O.o
11:24 VanessaE how are you calling the register_6dfacedir_conversion() function?
11:25 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/5598060/
11:25 Calinou also, I'll probably remove the print once I get this working, it creates LOTS of lines in console
11:26 VanessaE is it any one particular material that's\ doing it?
11:26 Calinou nope, outer glass stairs, cobble wall stairs and mossy cobble slabs all do that
11:26 Calinou (the mossy cobble slabs being newly placed)
11:26 Calinou I run latest minetest with luajit, curl, freetype, gettext
11:27 VanessaE ditto (no freetype)
11:28 Calinou on your random-testing world it didn't happen
11:28 Calinou just on my world
11:28 VanessaE very strange
11:28 Calinou I loaded your world again and it doesn't happen
11:29 Calinou breaking a few nodes to cause updates... nothing
11:29 VanessaE you don't by chance have two conversion routines running dou you?
11:29 VanessaE like, leftover code from your earlier attempt I mean
11:29 Calinou no? else it would happen on both worlds
11:29 VanessaE I'm totally confused
11:29 Calinou creating a new world to see if it happens
11:30 VanessaE btw, don't use http://paste.ubuntu.com/5598060/  <-- that method.  Add a call to register_stair_slab_panel_micro() instead.
11:30 Calinou it happens on a new world
11:31 VanessaE wtf?
11:31 * VanessaE checks her end also
11:31 Calinou brick stairs do that
11:31 Calinou but iron stone brick ones do not
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11:33 whirm1 is there a way to extend the default water simulation radius (I'm playing with the finite water option and I can see lots of holes all around that only get filled if I'm really near them)
11:34 celeron55 you can increase the "active block range" to any range you want; increasing it will rapidly increase CPU usage though
11:35 celeron55 default is active_block_range = 2
11:35 celeron55 that means the active area is a square radius of 2*16...3*16 nodes from the player
11:35 whirm1 celeron55: great thanks!
11:35 celeron55 (min/max)
11:36 celeron55 try seting it to 4 or something; see when stuff gets laggy :P
11:36 Calinou "square radius" ö_ö
11:36 Calinou :P
11:36 celeron55 +t
11:36 VanessaE Calinou: I just tried in a new world, with r_6d_c() plugged into r_s_s_p_m() and it's working perfectly, at least for coal checker objects
11:37 VanessaE oh wait
11:37 VanessaE it does happen with mossy cobble
11:37 VanessaE but not with coal checker
11:39 VanessaE um, are things like cobble, mossy cobble, etc registered as stairsplus:xxxxx?
11:39 VanessaE or as moreblocks:xxxx?
11:39 Calinou ohh, there were still 6d aliases in stairsplus/aliases.txt
11:39 Calinou I tought I removed them? WTF?
11:39 VanessaE ah
11:39 * VanessaE looks
11:39 Calinou removing and trying
11:39 Calinou works
11:39 VanessaE aliases.lua?
11:40 VanessaE AH
11:40 VanessaE stairsplus/aliases
11:40 VanessaE I misread
11:40 VanessaE ok
11:40 VanessaE that explains it
11:40 whirm1 celeron55: set it to 10, looking good! :D
11:41 Calinou set to 10 and no lag?
11:41 whirm1 now I can see the bubbles coming up
11:41 Calinou VanessaE: git pull and try
11:41 celeron55 10 would make any world with moving mobs basically hang, i guess
11:41 whirm1 no apparent lag
11:41 Calinou try typing any command
11:41 VanessaE ok, so in init.lua, move the convert.lua dofile line to right above redefinitions, nuke those aliases, and add register_6dfacedir_conversion(modname, subname) to the bottom of register_stair_slab_panel_micro()
11:42 whirm1 celeron55: I'm using the base game
11:42 celeron55 or actually, it's not that bad in singleplayer
11:42 celeron55 on a server it can become bad :P
11:42 Calinou whirm1: minetest_game or minimal?
11:42 whirm1 Calinou: I just used the /time command and it responded instantly
11:43 whirm1 celeron55: Yeah, I can guess :D
11:43 whirm1 Calinou: minetest_game
11:43 VanessaE Calinou: it seems good now
11:43 Calinou what's your CPU, too?
11:43 whirm1 I7
11:43 Calinou ah
11:43 whirm1 :D
11:44 whirm1 but this finite water stuff should be finished, it would be great to be able to build dykes and stuff
11:44 whirm1 and have rivers flowing into it etc
11:45 VanessaE Calinou: ok, now in stairsplus_convert.lua where you've got all those calls to the conversion code, nuke 'em.  Put register_6dfacedir_conversion(modname, subname) at the bottom of register_stair_slab_panel_micro() instead.
11:45 VanessaE less code, and it'll cover everyone who uses stairsplus
11:45 PilzAdam can someone please kill this guy for putting a link to buy minecraft under a Minetest video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9_lgJmjEEk
11:45 Calinou VanessaE: k
11:46 PilzAdam "if you want to support the devs buy the original game: <link to minecrap store>"
11:46 Calinou lol PilzAdam
11:47 Calinou attempt to call global 'register_6dfacedir_conversion' (a nil value)
11:47 VanessaE did you move the dofile like also?
11:47 VanessaE line*
11:47 whirm1 the indev mapgen is looking great too
11:48 PilzAdam whirm1, indev is basically v6 with farlands and floatlands
11:48 Calinou indev + jungles + dungeons = fun
11:48 VanessaE Calinou: at moreblocks/init.lua line 23.  Move that conversion dofile up to line 13.
11:48 Calinou ah ok
11:48 VanessaE PilzAdam: flagged and reported as spam+misleading
11:48 Calinou I thought there was no order to it
11:49 Calinou works now
11:49 Calinou VanessaE: people moderate youtube comments?!?!
11:49 whirm1 PilzAdam: I'm using those settings: mg_flags = trees, caves, v6_biome_blend, v6_jungles, dungeons
11:49 VanessaE Calinou: yup, though I'm sure it's not commonly used.
11:49 Calinou is it jungles or v6_jungles?
11:49 PilzAdam Calinou, v6_jungles
11:49 Calinou if it's v6_jungles then http://dev.minetest.net/mg_flags is wrong
11:49 Calinou oh, someone corrected it
11:50 whirm1 :D
11:50 PilzAdam whirm1, biome_blend is awful
11:50 PilzAdam Calinou, /me
11:50 whirm1 PilzAdam: yes, I guess it needs color blending
11:50 Calinou biome_blend looks fine
11:51 whirm1 it would look much better with actual color blending (IE yellowish grass/leaves when getting near desert, darker leaves when getting near jungle, etc...)
11:53 jin_xi PilzAdam: http://dev.minetest.net/treegen needs some formatting help
11:54 Calinou whirm1: it's in TODO :P
11:54 Calinou mapgen v7 will bring real biomes too, and tabbed browsing
11:54 Calinou (who doesn't associate "7" with something revolutionary, like IE 7)
11:55 VanessaE Calinou: think the code is safe to deploy to my server? :)
11:56 Calinou make a backup and try
11:57 VanessaE too chicken :)
12:02 VanessaE brb
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12:08 VanessaE one of these days maybe the linux community will fix that crusty old bug.
12:08 VanessaE (ridiculously long timeouts from stale NFS handles)
12:08 Calinou catalyst crashing doesn't count as "crusty old bug"
12:08 Calinou oh :P
12:09 Calinou what is NFS useful for, what does it do?
12:09 VanessaE have to reboot to recover when it gets into that stupid state
12:09 Calinou ah
12:09 VanessaE NFS = network file sustem
12:09 VanessaE system*
12:09 Calinou is it why thunar takes 30 seconds to start sometimes?
12:09 VanessaE it's what Linux uses for sharing between hosts, something like samba
12:09 VanessaE possibly
12:09 Calinou I press windows+F several times, wait 30 seconds and 4 thunars open :P
12:09 VanessaE but thunar has known slow-start bugs anyway
12:10 VanessaE (in my particular case, NFS is how I access my husband's filesystems on his box so I can run a backup of our systems)
12:12 VanessaE holy moses -- 2.6GB rollback.txt :)
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12:16 VanessaE Calinou: here goes nothin.
12:17 VanessaE hm, some unknown blocks.
12:17 PilzAdam *nodes
12:17 PilzAdam unknown blocks would be rather critical
12:18 VanessaE technic:slab_concrete_inverted
12:18 VanessaE how'd that get missed?
12:19 VanessaE Calinou: ah, you forgot to add that extra call to register_stair_slab_panel_micro()
12:19 Calinou what extra call?
12:20 VanessaE [04-24 07:45] <VanessaE> Calinou: ok, now in stairsplus_convert.lua where you've got all those calls to the conversion code, nuke 'em.  Put register_6dfacedir_conversion(modname, subname) at the bottom of register_stair_slab_panel_micro() instead.
12:20 VanessaE that way everyone who uses stairsplus will get the conversion code automagically.
12:21 Calinou I did that
12:21 VanessaE https://github.com/Calinou/calinou_mods/blob/master/moreblocks/stairsplus.lua#L131
12:21 VanessaE nuh uh :)
12:22 Calinou oh, you want it to be inside
12:22 VanessaE yeah
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12:22 VanessaE instead of making a thousand individual calls to register_6dfacedir_conversion(), you just make one inside the register stairs call
12:22 whirm1 is v7 in the master branch?
12:23 PilzAdam whirm1, yes
12:23 PilzAdam but its pretty unusable
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12:23 whirm1 ah
12:23 VanessaE whirm1: maybe it is, maybe it ain't ;)
12:23 whirm1 what a pity :D
12:24 whirm1 I will try it anyways, (is it just v7 in the config?)
12:24 Calinou done, VanessaE, tested, seems to work
12:24 VanessaE Calinou: deploying
12:25 VanessaE yup, that fixed it.
12:27 * VanessaE watches the conversion routine running on her map
12:27 VanessaE seems to work perfectly *pats self on back*
12:28 VanessaE or as much so as is possible without a facedir_fixed_textures param like you suggested we need
12:29 PilzAdam whirm1, yep
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12:32 whirm1 lol, my world is only stone and water
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12:34 whirm1 looks cool but a but boring :D
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12:51 Calinou you'll have an hard time making a pickaxe :P
12:54 * Kacey wants there to be a way to register multi-block structures
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13:00 KikaRz Hi there my friends :D
13:00 kaeza 'lo KikaRz
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13:01 KikaRz Yay... another performance update in TF2...
13:01 KikaRz Improved performance and stability for the Linux version
13:06 kaeza lol everyone is playing TF2, and I'm here playing TFC :(
13:08 Calinou TFC is paid and fugly :P
13:08 Calinou didn't know you played TF2, KikaRz :P
13:08 Calinou loading times seem to be fixed anyway
13:08 KikaRz Yes, I played...
13:08 Calinou lol I'm on sky hardcore
13:08 KikaRz I have TF2 premium.
13:08 Calinou digging under people's feet
13:09 Calinou makes me laugh IRL :3
13:09 Calinou some guy follows me even if I dig the bridge he's following me
13:09 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86230#p86230
13:09 kaeza Calinou, http://fuuu.us/445
13:09 VanessaE \o/
13:09 KikaRz VanessaE ?
13:10 KikaRz idk if you can see the <3
13:10 VanessaE KikaRz: moretrees updates.
13:10 Calinou seems legit kaeza
13:10 KikaRz Isaltino Morais has been under arrested. :D
13:10 VanessaE who?
13:10 kaeza Calinou, wut
13:10 kaeza you don't like the link?
13:11 kaeza http://alltheragefaces.com/face/neutral-pirate-poker-face
13:11 KikaRz Cool! Sea Dragons.
13:11 KikaRz They can't shoot fire under Water
13:11 KikaRz :D
13:11 KikaRz Or they can...
13:12 * kaeza 's fingers are itchy to click the post button :P
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13:13 kaeza nice timing hmmmm
13:14 VanessaE Calinou: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86232#p86232
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13:31 KikaRz poor Calinou
13:35 VanessaE that's his normal signoff message
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13:45 Exio ha
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13:45 Exio i need to try the active_block_range
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14:16 KikaRz lawl
14:28 ShadowBot Diego Martínez commited to Minetest: Added support to disable built-in HUD elements (https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/e703c5b)
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14:29 jordan4ibanez Why is this http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4351 in game modes? There's nothing to download
14:29 jordan4ibanez not even an idea lol
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14:30 PilzAdam reported
14:32 jordan4ibanez Look I know these kids are young, but we can't treat them special
14:32 kaeza jordan4ibanez, http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/37240314.jpg
14:32 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, where is simply minetest #4? I saw farming already in minetest black
14:32 jordan4ibanez I was going to start it in 10 minutes
14:32 jordan4ibanez lol kaeza
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14:33 kaeza aaaaand http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86243#p86243
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14:38 jordan4ibanez Even in linux with wine bandicam still works the best, wat
14:38 jordan4ibanez and it still hides your mouse cursor
14:44 jordan4ibanez does minetest have a built in screencaster yet?
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14:55 jojoa1997|Tablet Yay now I can set side bars and split up hot bar https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/e703c5b81f87550e636ebb1ebb1eb64027a44687
14:55 ShadowBot jojoa1997|Tablet: Diego Martínez commited to Minetest: Added support to disable built-in HUD elements (https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/e703c5b)
14:57 Traxie21 jojo, you're going to have a hard time splitting the hotbar
14:57 Traxie21 I'm resetting the SunriseTest map. making a new one
14:57 ShadowNinja Is that disablable?
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14:58 Traxie21 hi Calinou
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14:58 Calinou hi
14:58 Jordach hey Calinou
14:59 Traxie21 I lol'd at the Bullet Physics thread
14:59 Calinou same
14:59 kaeza I derped
14:59 Traxie21 even kaeza missed my reply apparently
14:59 Traxie21 :3
14:59 kaeza I read "Bullet Physics Engine" too late
15:00 Calinou 2011-06... I wasn't even on the forums, I joined in 2011-08-01
15:00 Calinou during some afternoon, while playing on Kray's server :P
15:00 Jordach kaeza, if you want my pencil pack updated ask me later
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15:00 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, wut
15:01 Jordach ^ wrong person
15:01 Traxie21 delete buttons are overrated >_>
15:01 Calinou so are edit buttons
15:01 kaeza Jordach, [11:55:38] <jojoa1997|Tablet> Yay now I can set side bars and split up hot bar h
15:01 kaeza Jordach, btw thanks :D that pack is awesome
15:02 Jordach kaeza, problem is: i dont personally own a scanner anymore
15:02 Calinou buy one with your 270k, a 3D one
15:02 Calinou or 4D
15:03 kaeza Jordach, aww :(
15:03 jojoa1997|Tablet Jordach what pack. Kaeza I won't actually try
15:04 Calinou :O xubuntu user in #minecrafthelp @ espernet
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15:04 Murray_B Hi!
15:04 kaeza OMFG Bill Murray is in the channelz!
15:05 kaeza :P
15:05 kaeza hi!
15:05 Calinou Murray_B: hello xfce user :3
15:05 jojoa1997|Tablet kaeza what this do? https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-kaeza_misc/blob/master/kutils/init.lua
15:05 Calinou (he's in #xfce)
15:05 Murray_B celeron55: I just visited http://minetest.net/ with firefox and got an alarm that this is an attacking website - maybe you could care about it.
15:05 Calinou use chromium then
15:06 Murray_B Calinou: Well, yes, I am in #xfce, but are you sure I really use xfce? ;-)
15:06 Jordach >Murray_B< CTCP VERSION
15:06 Jordach -Murray_B- VERSION Don't ask!
15:06 * kaeza is also an xfce user :3
15:06 Jordach dammit.,
15:06 Jordach -,
15:06 Calinou he uses "purple", so pidgin
15:06 Calinou (his real name)
15:06 jojoa1997|Tablet Kaeza what that mod do?
15:07 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, there is an extensive documentation in the source
15:07 kaeza basically a raycaster of sorts
15:07 kaeza -an
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15:08 Murray_B Jordach: Yes, sorry, I am thinking about switching to another client, but I like that pidgin could handle my Jabber-account, too.
15:08 Jordach Murray_B, xchat works best for IRC, although worse clients exist
15:08 jojoa1997|Tablet Raycaster?
15:08 jojoa1997|Tablet Like sunlight rays!
15:08 jojoa1997|Tablet .
15:08 Jordach no
15:08 jojoa1997|Tablet ?
15:09 * Traxie21 likes Empathy
15:09 Jordach http://en.wikipedia.org/Raycaster
15:09 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, trace a ray from a pos in a direction and see what it collides with
15:09 Jordach http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_casting
15:09 Jordach ^ much better
15:09 kaeza Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name
15:09 kaeza ah lol
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15:10 * Calinou joined a pl_minepit server on TF2
15:10 Calinou server with minecraft-style maps :P
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15:10 kaeza Jordach, thanks for the clarification ^^
15:10 jojoa1997|Tablet So I could make laser pointer with rifle righht?
15:10 Murray_B Jordach: Yes, I used xchat before, but xchat is dead, I would try hexchat.
15:11 jordan4ibanez Uh oh, my hard drive finally went
15:11 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, it's not "visual"
15:11 Murray_B Traxie21: Does Empathy have a better IRC-support than pidgin?
15:11 jojoa1997|Tablet Could it be?
15:11 kaeza it's used to find objects that the player can't directly reach
15:11 Traxie21 It looks cooler, idk if its better
15:11 Calinou hexchat is not in *buntu repos :P
15:11 Calinou else, it's pretty much the same. but it's free on windows, unlike xchat
15:11 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, see this for an example: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_961452467.jpg
15:11 jojoa1997|Tablet Could I make it overlay the texture with red
15:12 Murray_B Calinou: So what? I am using linux, not *buntu ;-P
15:12 Murray_B Calinou: And hexchat is actively developed.
15:13 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, as you see in the pic, I can get the node I'm pointing at from 15m away
15:13 Murray_B Maybe I should install hexchat with bitlbee or similar
15:13 Calinou not a fan of PPAs and self-compiling some software really sucks
15:15 tripod minbif > bitlbee btw Murray_B
15:15 tripod if you haven't heard of it.
15:15 * Calinou denied warranty from nvidia for the 20th or so
15:15 tripod gn
15:15 Calinou 20th time*
15:18 Traxie21 Installed my Update mod on Sunrisetest, its working :O
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15:24 ShadowBot PilzAdam commited to Common: Dont allow to dig other player's locked chests if they are empty (https://github.com/minetest/common/commit/0a7afc9)
15:24 ShadowBot PilzAdam commited to Common: Make colored wool craftable from every wool, not just white (https://github.com/minetest/common/commit/fc9a752)
15:24 ShadowBot PilzAdam commited to Common: Add place and dug sounds to wool (https://github.com/minetest/common/commit/093dc4b)
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15:25 PilzAdam ^ sfan5 ShadowBot is better than MinetestBot
15:25 sfan5 PilzAdam: why?
15:25 PilzAdam she gets all commits when you push multiple at once
15:25 PilzAdam MinetestBot only shows the latest
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15:25 * ShadowBot sleeps
15:26 PilzAdam ShadowBot also has better uptimes than MinetestBot
15:26 Traxie21 PilzAdam, did you see my Updater mod?
15:26 sfan5 PilzAdam: thats because ShadowBot uses a different way of checking for commits
15:26 sfan5 also, its the telekoms fault that minetestbot times out
15:26 PilzAdam sfan5, can MinetestBot change her way of checking it?
15:26 sfan5 yes
15:27 sfan5 opensource FTW( https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules )
15:28 kaeza PilzAdam, can you make a new Win build? My commit breaks compat with hud code
15:28 Traxie21 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86116#p86116  ITS ACTUALLY WORKING!
15:28 jojoa1997|Tablet kaeza i will be adding your mod(the one that changes crosshairs) in ported_mods so people can have stuff like SphaxDBCraft's crosshairs
15:28 PilzAdam kaeza, sure
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15:28 Traxie21 Just updated serverextended to version 1.12, Updater picked it up and after 2 restarts had it updated and installed
15:28 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, go ahead ;)
15:29 jojoa1997|Tablet idea
15:29 kaeza .avi
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15:29 jojoa1997|Tablet maybe your ray mod could help in ender pearls
15:29 kaeza I hate when he does that >.>
15:29 kaeza ah there you are
15:29 * jojoa1997|Tablet is on school wifi
15:30 Calinou inb4 you have a better speed than me :P
15:30 jojoa1997|Tablet TO THE LOGS!
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15:31 * jojoa1997|Tablet gives 0gb another server to host :)
15:31 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, feel free to modify to your heart's content
15:31 jojoa1997|Tablet i might
15:31 jojoa1997|Tablet most likely this weekend
15:31 [0gb_us] I do need a new server to host on.
15:31 kaeza after all, it's WTFPL ;)
15:31 jojoa1997|Tablet [0gb_us] i thought you left servers for good
15:32 jojoa1997|Tablet ok so everyone the code written by kaeza is now writen by me ;-)
15:32 kaeza don't come asking for support tho' :)
15:33 jojoa1997|Tablet kaeza i need help it wont work
15:33 jojoa1997|Tablet i cant get it to run on my tablet
15:33 jojoa1997|Tablet >.>
15:33 [0gb_us] I'm sort of a ghost at this point. I'm both here and not here.
15:33 jojoa1997|Tablet <.<
15:33 RealBadAngel believe the ghost :P
15:33 [0gb_us] I'm working on starting a new world at the moment. It will lag lick heck.
15:34 jojoa1997|Tablet [0gb_us] you are here but you are removing yourself from the drama
15:34 [0gb_us] *like
15:34 RealBadAngel are you patrick swayze? lol
15:34 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb why lag?
15:34 jojoa1997|Tablet what is different from old one?
15:34 [0gb_us] Actually, I'm working on a small pull request, so I'm back in the drama ....
15:34 jojoa1997|Tablet also can i be the moderator
15:35 [0gb_us] It will lag because I don't have the resources for a second world.
15:35 RealBadAngel [0gb_us], remember that only count what you like
15:35 [0gb_us] One thing that is different, the main thing, is that there ARE NO moderators. So nothing personal, but no, you may not be a moderator there.
15:35 [0gb_us] RealBadAngel: I don't understand.
15:36 RealBadAngel you are here for your own pleasure, not for others
15:36 RealBadAngel doing somethin makes all the fun
15:37 jojoa1997|Tablet YES
15:37 RealBadAngel dont let anythin stop what you like
15:38 RealBadAngel this is community, we do have different attitudes, moods, etc
15:38 RealBadAngel we have to learn to live with each other
15:38 angry lol registered
15:38 [0gb_us] Yeah, but it still is stressful to be here.
15:38 jojoa1997|Tablet WTF THEY ARE ALL REGISTERED
15:38 [0gb_us] Yeah, you're right.
15:39 RealBadAngel i was about two times to quit
15:39 [0gb_us] It's just frustrationg when stubborn people hold the power.
15:39 diemartin :D
15:39 RealBadAngel VanessaE convinced me not to do so
15:39 RealBadAngel and im thankful to her
15:39 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rssnotify
15:39 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'rssnotify' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/rssnotify.py'> (version: 2013-04-24 15:34:46)
15:39 [0gb_us] (Not refering to you, RealBadAngel.)
15:39 RealBadAngel i love mt and folks that are here
15:39 sfan5 MinetestBot: are you drunk? its 17:39 not 15:34
15:39 RealBadAngel even when sometimes i want to yell just
15:40 * jojoa1997|Tablet is loved by RealBadAngle?
15:40 * jojoa1997|Tablet is loved by RealBadAngel?
15:40 RealBadAngel jojoa1997|Tablet, want a kiss or somethin? :P
15:40 kaeza d'awwww
15:40 * jojoa1997|Tablet puckers up
15:40 jojoa1997|Tablet are you male or female
15:40 kaeza RBA <3
15:41 * jojoa1997|Tablet hides
15:41 RealBadAngel rotfl
15:41 * jojoa1997|Tablet cries
15:41 * jojoa1997|Tablet dies
15:41 * jojoa1997|Tablet flies
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15:41 jojoa1997|Tablet lol it is still [Quit: 0gb.us, away!]
15:41 RealBadAngel i just a piece of sexy code :P
15:41 MinetestBot GIT:  commited to minetest/minetest: Added support to disable built-in HUD elements e703c5b81f 2013-04-24T07:28:00-07:00 http://git.io/kvUhjA
15:41 MinetestBot GIT:  commited to minetest/minetest: Fixes possible crash when using hud_change with "align" or "offset" 33dd267fd9 2013-04-23T20:18:05-07:00 http://git.io/ZuUbLw
15:42 MinetestBot GIT: RealBadAngel commited to minetest/minetest: Fix to: addUpdateMeshTaskWithEdge a699bdb7a1 2013-04-23T19:30:09-07:00 http://git.io/UZQMvw
15:42 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Add option to use texture alpha channel 770305e28d 2013-04-23T19:15:51-07:00 http://git.io/ZgitPw
15:42 MinetestBot GIT: celeron55 commited to minetest/minetest: Disable fall bobbing by default; enable using fall_bobbing_amount = 1.0 36747794ab 2013-04-23T13:19:36-07:00 http://git.io/Mow4Zg
15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet muwhahahaha
15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet muwhahahaha
15:42 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Grow dirt_with_snow instead of dirt_with_grass if snow is above it c03c296dc7 2013-04-23T10:02:41-07:00 http://git.io/JH5dhQ
15:42 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Add minetest.get_player_ip() 4a9b8aae5e 2013-04-22T23:57:45-07:00 http://git.io/EqzIsA
15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet lollolololo
15:42 kaeza stahp MinetestBot !!
15:42 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Add option to not prepend "Server -!- " to messages sent with minetest.chat_send_player() 3d4d0cb574 2013-04-22T23:47:08-07:00 http://git.io/qE6o0w
15:42 MinetestBot GIT:  commited to minetest/minetest: Added offset support for HUD items 9894167bbf 2013-04-22T23:34:11-07:00 http://git.io/jJeINw
15:42 MinetestBot GIT:  commited to minetest/minetest: Added support for alignment in HUD items 7c37b1891a 2013-04-22T23:34:10-07:00 http://git.io/PXZowA
15:42 RealBadAngle Real Bad Angle: More than 360 or less than zero.
15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet trololololo
15:42 MinetestBot GIT: eduardojsm commited to minetest/minetest: Translation to Portuguese of Brazil for Minetest 58ded5cd27 2013-04-22T13:12:57-07:00 http://git.io/FK1PJw
15:42 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: mgv7: Implement getGroundLevelAtPoint(), fix layer of topnodes at chunk Y boundaries, remove growGrass() 37e6d1356b 2013-04-21T12:47:13-07:00 http://git.io/P4hLKA
15:42 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Fix findSpawnPos() daddd37706 2013-04-21T12:39:34-07:00 http://git.io/Ft39DA
15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet rololololo
15:42 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Fix hud_change stat argument retrieval 14ba94ad6a 2013-04-21T09:55:46-07:00 http://git.io/a5KniA
15:42 sfan5 shit fuck
15:42 * ShadowBot wakes up
15:42 RealBadAngel uh oh, i can smell somethin screwed
15:42 * jojoa1997|Tablet bans MinetestBot
15:42 kaeza will it post *all* the commits??
15:42 PilzAdam sfan5, does she loop through all the commits?
15:42 sfan5 yes
15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet gotta post em all gotta post em all commiton
15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet !
15:43 RealBadAngel cant it read them all aloud or sing?
15:43 RealBadAngel ;)
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15:44 RealBadAngel *newsflash* (in radio MT) xxx commited yyyy
15:44 kaeza ^ nice quit msg
15:44 kaeza lol
15:44 RealBadAngel music fades in back
15:44 RealBadAngel :)
15:45 kaeza Now Playing: "Instant Rejection"
15:45 kaeza :)
15:45 RealBadAngel thats a PERFECT tune for all
15:45 jojoa1997|Tablet joined #minetest
15:45 RealBadAngel especially newbies to core
15:46 RealBadAngel i also were instantly rejected at the start
15:46 Tracerneo What is '"Use" = climb down' in settings?
15:46 jojoa1997|Tablet hold e to climb down
15:46 PilzAdam Tracerneo, nobody except c55 uses this
15:46 kaeza ^ lol
15:46 jojoa1997|Tablet what good is it?
15:47 RealBadAngel and propably even him doesnt remember ;)
15:47 PilzAdam it was the original control before shift = down was added
15:47 Tracerneo Lol.
15:47 Tracerneo Weird setting.
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15:47 jojoa1997|Tablet i use tab for sprint
15:47 RealBadAngel im glad that we have kahrl back
15:48 RealBadAngel he is familiar with old ways
15:48 Tracerneo So… Climb down from what? Flying mode?
15:48 kaeza and ladders
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15:49 jojoa1997|Tablet and sneak running
15:50 Tracerneo Lol, sneak and running? It doesn't make sense.
15:50 jojoa1997|Tablet so you dont fall off edges
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15:53 RealBadAngel hi cisoun
15:53 NakedFury karhl is back?
15:53 RealBadAngel your background is atm main theme in Haven TP
15:54 cisoun \o/
15:54 RealBadAngel NakedFury, yes
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15:54 NakedFury thats awesome
15:54 RealBadAngel and not just passing by
15:54 RealBadAngel back to coding
15:54 [0gb_us] joined #minetest
15:55 NakedFury yes! I wonder if more old timers will come back too
15:55 [0gb_us] joined #minetest
15:55 RealBadAngel he helped today in the morning to solve last problem with GLASSLIKE_FRAMED
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15:59 RealBadAngel also, other news
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15:59 * ShadowBot sleeps
16:00 RealBadAngel kahrl is goin to fix indices/vertices bug
16:00 RealBadAngel hmmm will add on the fly ability to change nodeboxes and textures
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16:01 NakedFury thats nice
16:01 RealBadAngel im goin to add new drawtype: mesh
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16:01 NakedFury how will mesh work or change the game?
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16:01 MinetestBot GIT:  commited to minetest/minetest: Added support to disable built-in HUD elements e703c5b81f 2013-04-24T07:28:00-07:00 http://git.io/kvUhjA
16:01 MinetestBot GIT:  commited to minetest/minetest: Fixes possible crash when using hud_change with "align" or "offset" 33dd267fd9 2013-04-23T20:18:05-07:00 http://git.io/ZuUbLw
16:02 MinetestBot GIT: RealBadAngel commited to minetest/minetest: Fix to: addUpdateMeshTaskWithEdge a699bdb7a1 2013-04-23T19:30:09-07:00 http://git.io/UZQMvw
16:02 * ShadowBot wakes up
16:02 RealBadAngel again?
16:02 Calinou cool
16:02 RealBadAngle|361 The robot is having spasms.
16:02 Calinou there was a pull request about reducing common CPU usage, could it be merged too?
16:02 sfan5 RealBadAngle|361: no
16:02 Calinou RealBadAngle lol
16:02 RealBadAngel NakedFury, you will be able to create node in Blender for example
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16:02 RealBadAngel animated or steady
16:03 RealBadAngel how complicated, up to you
16:03 RealBadAngel you want animated water pump?
16:04 RealBadAngel no problemo, make it in blender and just import
16:04 NakedFury pistons
16:04 Calinou entity pumps
16:04 Calinou genius
16:04 MinetestBot GIT: RealBadAngel commited to minetest/minetest: Fix to: addUpdateMeshTaskWithEdge a699bdb7a1 2013-04-23T19:30:09-07:00 http://git.io/UZQMvw
16:04 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Add minetest.get_player_ip() 4a9b8aae5e 2013-04-22T23:57:45-07:00 http://git.io/EqzIsA
16:05 * [0gb_us] is more comfortable in this name
16:05 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Add option to not prepend "Server -!- " to messages sent with minetest.chat_send_player() 3d4d0cb574 2013-04-22T23:47:08-07:00 http://git.io/qE6o0w
16:05 * ShadowBot wakes up
16:05 sfan5 *sigh*
16:05 Calinou ~sex ShadowBot
16:05 RealBadAngel shit i commited at least 5th time today
16:05 [0gb_us] You sure are productive!
16:06 RealBadAngel hehhehe
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16:08 MinetestBot GIT: RealBadAngel commited to minetest/minetest: Fix to: addUpdateMeshTaskWithEdge a699bdb7a1 2013-04-23T19:30:09-07:00 http://git.io/UZQMvw
16:08 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Add minetest.get_player_ip() 4a9b8aae5e 2013-04-22T23:57:45-07:00 http://git.io/EqzIsA
16:08 * ShadowBot wakes up
16:08 sfan5 wtf?!
16:08 RealBadAngel no, not again, please! :P
16:09 RealBadAngel i swear i did it, now just leave me alone :P
16:09 [0gb_us] Good night.
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16:15 [0gb_us] It can be at times.
16:15 sfan5 Success!
16:15 sfan5 [LOG]: Found 0 RSS Update(s) for URL 'https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commits/master.atom'
16:15 [0gb_us] Yay!
16:15 [0gb_us] Now RealBadAngel can stop committing and get some sleep.
16:15 sfan5 all this trouble was just caused by me forgetting to change some array indexes after copy-pasting
16:16 kaeza thank got I don't use my nick in commits :P
16:16 kaeza g*d *
16:16 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rssnotify
16:16 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'rssnotify' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/rssnotify.py'> (version: 2013-04-24 16:16:36)
16:17 [0gb_us] I can't, neither Github nor Freenode like my true name.
16:18 sfan5 http://git.io/2L-rgw
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16:36 kaeza1 sfan5, double post: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86258#p86258, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86257#p86257
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16:37 kaeza1 lol a video bug report
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16:38 markveidemanis hi
16:38 Traxie21 hia
16:38 markveidemanis Calinou
16:39 markveidemanis Why does webchat not work???
16:39 markveidemanis I WILL FIND A WAY!!!
16:40 markveidemanis ZNC, right?
16:40 Traxie21 minetest dosn't like webchat anymore, too many bots :C
16:40 markveidemanis ???
16:40 markveidemanis How does that explain anything
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16:41 markveidemanis il make a server with ZNC then connect to it
16:41 NakedFury we had a user coming here spamming all names on the list
16:41 NakedFury so banning webchat was decided
16:42 markveidemanis But...
16:42 markveidemanis Xchat users can spam more
16:42 sfan5 kaeza1: fixed
16:43 kaeza1 thanks :)
16:43 markveidemanis and i have wierd colors
16:43 markveidemanis MOO
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16:44 kaeza1 congratulations on your acquisition of a real IRC client markveidemanis
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16:44 kaeza1 :P
16:44 VanessaE there, homedecor updated to use 6d facedir :)
16:44 kaeza1 like VanessaE
16:44 MOOOOOOOOOOOO was kicked by sfan5: please use another nickname, would you like being called MOOOOOOOOOOOO?
16:44 kaeza1 oope
16:45 * kaeza1 hides
16:45 sfan5 markveidemanis: why?
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17:08 rubenwardy1 does a continue in a for loop skip to the next value? (c++)
17:08 rubenwardy1 yes
17:09 Calinou google :p
17:09 kaeza1 rubenwardy, continue
17:09 kaeza1 yes
17:09 rubenwardy1 I answered my own question :P
17:10 kaeza1 :P
17:10 kaeza1 bbl
17:14 PilzAdam unicorns @ github!
17:14 MinetestBot IndexError: list index out of range (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/rssnotify.py", line 92, in rsscheck)
17:14 Calinou lol
17:15 Calinou angry unicorns then :P
17:15 Calinou 1 second, way too long?
17:15 PilzAdam she doesnt like unicorns?
17:15 PilzAdam ^ sfan5
17:15 PilzAdam !help
17:15 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
17:15 sfan5 PilzAdam: no, thats just the rssnotify module failing
17:18 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rssnotify
17:18 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'rssnotify' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/rssnotify.py'> (version: 2013-04-24 17:17:35)
17:18 sfan5 PilzAdam: fixed
17:19 PilzAdam someone has a good name for win build since 4a9b8aa?
17:20 sfan5 <sarcasm> call then "minetest" </sarcasm>
17:20 Traxie21 RandomBuild?
17:21 [0gb_us] PilzAdam: What's new that warrants a new build since your last? Name it after that.
17:22 PilzAdam kaeza-wanted-me-to-make-a-new-build
17:22 TheBonsai but "hex number" sounds weitrd
17:22 TheBonsai *weird
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17:24 PilzAdam <totally_unexpected>new windows build: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547 </totally_unexpected>
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17:38 [0gb_us] Yeah, call it that then.
17:40 * Calinou is updating his packs for latest git
17:41 VanessaE already updated HDX :)
17:42 Traxie21 bye all
17:42 Traxie21 cyas!
17:42 PilzAdam VanessaE, seen the update to wool crafting?
17:42 PilzAdam (with dyes)
17:42 VanessaE no?
17:42 PilzAdam https://github.com/minetest/common/commit/fc9a752818b0abf2632a163abb7f13264bd4dba6
17:42 VanessaE how are the dyes made?
17:42 VanessaE *looks*
17:43 VanessaE oh.
17:43 VanessaE meh.
17:43 VanessaE there's still no in-game way to make those dyes.
17:43 VanessaE (afaik)
17:43 PilzAdam there is also no ingame way to get wool
17:44 VanessaE flowers mod would be perfect for the task.
17:44 jin_xi is the poptart cat still in the game? why not use the rainbow tail to make dyes?
17:44 VanessaE I believe [0gb_us] has a pull request pending for it.
17:44 PilzAdam jin_xi, ehm, I have found 5 in all the time playing Minetest
17:45 VanessaE yeah, they're way too rare for that.
17:45 jin_xi just a thought
17:45 jin_xi it has all the colors...
17:45 VanessaE besides, gloopblocks can make poptart cats and rainbows...fro dyes :)
17:45 VanessaE from*
17:46 jin_xi or we could craft a prism from glass and use it to color wool...
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17:46 PilzAdam or we just add flowers
17:47 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/common/pull/28
17:47 VanessaE (but without the mushrooms mentioned therein)
17:47 PilzAdam 1) I dont like the way they regenerate
17:48 PilzAdam 2) I would preger "flower:red", "flower:blue" etc.
17:48 VanessaE I thought about that and realized that that's about the most perfect way to do it
17:48 VanessaE oh G*D NO
17:48 PilzAdam for almost all the colors in dyes
17:48 VanessaE they are roses, not "red".
17:48 VanessaE geraniums, not "blue".
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17:48 VanessaE sorry, calling them "flower:red" and the like is a BAD idea.
17:49 VanessaE and offers zero benefit, honestly.
17:49 khonkhortisan flower:black
17:49 khonkhortisan sand:yellow sand:orange
17:49 khonkhortisan stone:græy stone:red
17:50 PilzAdam then add all the flowers to the "flower" group and "basecolor_[color]" and add crafting recipes to dyes with "group:flower,basecolor_[color]"
17:51 VanessaE PilzAdam: they are already in that group.
17:51 PilzAdam but again, Im absolutely against the regrowing like that
17:51 VanessaE the recipes don't follow what you suggest (but I think that's a good idea)
17:51 VanessaE why?
17:51 bas080 Would it be hard to make a minetest server url that includes ip and port and when opened it opens a minetest client. Just like when i open an rss it opens gpodder.
17:51 PilzAdam MCs bonemeal is a good idea, but people would kill me if I add it
17:51 [0gb_us] PilzAdam: I would prefer flowers:red too, but VanessaE wanted to keep the legacy node names.
17:52 VanessaE after 0gb explained it to me, it makes perfect sence
17:52 bas080 Don't call it bonemeal.
17:52 jin_xi http://laundry.about.com/od/NaturalFabricDyes/a/How-To-Dye-Fabric-With-Natural-Dyes.htm this page lists some nice stuff to craft dyes from
17:52 VanessaE bonemeal?!    /kill PilzAdam
17:52 [0gb_us] PilzAdam: What way would you prefer they regenerate?
17:52 PilzAdam oh, wait a second
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17:53 PilzAdam I thought there was VanessaE's plants lib way of regrowing them
17:53 VanessaE PilzAdam: no, those flowers don't use plants_lib
17:53 VanessaE they're mapgen-based + slow spreading growth
17:53 PilzAdam lol, intercal 128 and chance 256, are you kidding?
17:53 PilzAdam that ABM will run like never
17:54 VanessaE I think that's the plan :)
17:54 [0gb_us] PilzAdam: I made it really slow so you wouldn't complain that flowers are too easy to get.
17:55 PilzAdam also s/flowers:flower_*/flowers:*/g
17:55 VanessaE now where they're added to flowers/mapgen.lua, that code should be moved to the main mapgen instead, so that the routines from lines 2 through 30 or so don't have to be duplicated.
17:55 VanessaE PilzAdam: only if you provide aliases - otherwise that is guaranteed to ruin maps
17:56 PilzAdam sure, aliases then
17:56 VanessaE ok
17:56 PilzAdam why have you made this stupid names in the first place?
17:56 [0gb_us] The aliases should be in that exteral legacy plugin for minetest_game.
17:56 VanessaE ironzorg did.
17:56 VanessaE blame him :)
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17:56 PilzAdam [0gb_us], nope
17:56 PilzAdam also, why is there no README for the mod?
17:57 VanessaE because it's an excerpt from a larger package, from here:  http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2624
17:57 [0gb_us] I don't know what to put in the README.
17:57 VanessaE the forum post was originally supposed to be the readme.
17:57 PilzAdam [0gb_us], basically what is at the top of init.lua
17:57 PilzAdam Ill fix stuff there now
17:57 VanessaE (but as you can see from its content, it doesn't apply too well to the abridged version under consideration now)
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18:02 sfan5 $name_of_mt_character has beatiful blue eyes
18:03 PilzAdam oh, and I remove the cotton flower for now
18:03 VanessaE nooooooooo
18:03 VanessaE we need that to make wool
18:04 PilzAdam but not like this
18:04 VanessaE why?
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18:05 [0gb_us] I'm hoping to get wool:* changed to cotton:*, so making it from a plant will make sense.
18:05 * Calinou facepalm
18:05 Calinou it's a technical name
18:05 [0gb_us] (With aliases.)
18:05 Calinou feel free to change the description to "cotton"
18:05 PilzAdam [0gb_us], no, wool == cotton in Minetest
18:05 Calinou it would make sense, if we added farming mod :P
18:06 [0gb_us] Okay, PilzAdam, if they are the same, what is wrong with the cotton flowers?
18:06 PilzAdam I want to do that in farming
18:06 PilzAdam flowers are too easy
18:06 VanessaE PilzAdam: no, don't do that.
18:06 [0gb_us] Farming? Added to common? Sounds good.
18:06 VanessaE make it just another source thereof.
18:06 PilzAdam also everything to get colored wool would depend on flowers
18:06 PilzAdam wich makes it booring to get
18:06 [0gb_us] As long it it isn't something lame like sheep, I'd be happy.
18:07 PilzAdam (in a gameplay sence)
18:07 VanessaE no more boring than if it depends on farming cotton, or sheeps for wool
18:07 khonkhortisan and we don't get bacon from pigs
18:07 khonkhortisan sense/sheep
18:07 khonkhortisan feets!
18:08 * [0gb_us] must leave for a while
18:08 [0gb_us] Bye!
18:08 VanessaE cya
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18:10 sfan5 !up 79.235.21.154
18:10 MinetestBot 79.235.21.154:30000 is up (0.111ms)
18:10 PilzAdam [0gb_us], also, why do you place dry_shrubs in the flower generation?
18:10 sfan5 yay! it works
18:10 PilzAdam they are already placed in default
18:10 PilzAdam and flower_cotton wasnt generated anyway
18:11 PilzAdam oh, and dont use math.random() in mapgen
18:12 VanessaE why?
18:12 PilzAdam use a random based on the seed
18:12 VanessaE you need to randomize your plants placement or it makes really ugly patterns
18:12 PilzAdam the map should look 100% the same with the same seed
18:12 PilzAdam (wich is PseudoRandom())
18:13 rubenwardy The nodebox generator 0.1 works!
18:13 PilzAdam and what the ... is the leafy group?
18:13 VanessaE rubenwardy: cool
18:14 VanessaE PilzAdam: dunno, I didn't add that :)
18:14 PilzAdam I leave flowers:flower_cotton in there for legacy, but it has no crafting recipes and isnt generated
18:15 Xenorax I should probably learn to use lua and C++ or something. I want to recreate Bioshock Infinite in Minetesr.
18:15 Xenorax Minetest*
18:15 Traxie21 rubenwardy, download?
18:15 VanessaE I still say you should craft it into "wool".
18:15 rubenwardy I will make a windows build
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18:16 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/The-NodeBox-Generator/commit/92510e407cc9bc20b1e6d78e7c6f12cb3828a295
18:16 PilzAdam should I add the dye from flowers crafting recipes to the flowers mod and depend on dye or add it to the dye mod and dont depend on anything
18:16 PilzAdam +?
18:16 BlockMen PilzAdam, maybe this makes clear what i mean http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2nk3wad&amp;s=4
18:16 Traxie21 rubenwardy how does one compile?
18:17 Traxie21 also, I run linux now >:D
18:17 rubenwardy there is a cmake script
18:17 VanessaE cook flowers -> dye powders inside the flowers mod.
18:17 BlockMen the physics must be set, because i wasnt able to move after "sliding" down
18:17 VanessaE you don't have to "depend" on dyes to do that, btw.
18:18 VanessaE crafting recipes don't care about dependencies
18:18 VanessaE ok, I need to go take a nap
18:18 PilzAdam you get unknown items if dyes it not present
18:18 PilzAdam and we dont want that to happen
18:18 VanessaE true
18:18 PilzAdam Ill add the recipes to dyes
18:18 PilzAdam 1 flower -> 1 dye
18:18 VanessaE ok
18:18 Traxie21 That is friggin cool ruben!!!
18:18 VanessaE 1 flower -> 4 dyes
18:19 VanessaE and cook 'em to get 'em
18:19 VanessaE make those lazy-ass users *work* for their fancy colors :
18:19 VanessaE :D
18:19 PilzAdam <VanessaE> 1 flower -> 4 dyes
18:19 PilzAdam <VanessaE> make those lazy-ass users *work* for their fancy colors :
18:20 PilzAdam ^ that doesnt make sense
18:20 rubenwardy how easy do you find it to compile, Traxie21?
18:20 PilzAdam also, if you put a flower in your furnace it burns and is gone
18:20 VanessaE PilzAdam: the cooking step, but remember, users will need a LOT of mass to build with
18:20 Traxie21 rubenwardy, I'm not sure, I typed make, and there was an excecutable
18:20 Traxie21 and I ran it..
18:20 Traxie21 ZS
18:20 rubenwardy ah
18:20 Traxie21 *XD
18:21 VanessaE PilzAdam: think of the cooking step as extracting the dye
18:21 Traxie21 Its awesome
18:21 PilzAdam VanessaE, meh
18:21 Traxie21 are the greyed-out menu options non-existant yet?
18:21 rubenwardy yeah
18:21 rubenwardy it is only 0.1
18:21 VanessaE PilzAdam: remember this is the same oven that can cook a rat to ediblilty, while still being able to smelt steel from raw iron lumps
18:21 rubenwardy still alpha
18:22 PilzAdam VanessaE, but cooking flowers doesnt make sense
18:22 rubenwardy It functions, but you can not load/save, set textures, import or edit multiple nodes. You can export
18:22 Traxie21 how about flowers-mortar/pestle-dye?
18:22 jin_xi there could be a brick oven specifically for food and stuff
18:23 Traxie21 mortar/pestle:  clay in bucket shape
18:23 VanessaE ok, fine, craft them from flowers -> 4 dyes, but you need something to perform the extraction with then
18:23 VanessaE e.g. the aforementioned mortar and pestle.
18:23 VanessaE (crafting is too simple and cheap)
18:23 PilzAdam VanessaE, yes, the crafting grid :-)
18:24 Calinou misa and MCE now support latest minetest_game
18:24 Calinou fixed hearts being too big in all packs too
18:24 VanessaE make a bowl from wood, combine bowl + stick + flower -> 4 dyes + bowl + stick
18:25 VanessaE use replacements={} to get the stick and bowl back.
18:25 Traxie21 rubenwardy, I'd recommend changing the texture to wood, gravel is too distracting :3
18:26 rubenwardy ok
18:26 Traxie21 I did on my local copy
18:26 Traxie21 Btw, this is exceedingly useful, a must-have for modders, even at this stage
18:26 Calinou what's exceedingly useful?
18:27 Traxie21 The NodeBox Generator
18:27 Traxie21 It could use a scale function that scales the nodebox in all directions
18:27 VanessaE ok, I'm off.
18:27 Traxie21 A bit hard to center things atm
18:27 VanessaE falling asleep at the keys
18:27 Traxie21 bai VanessaE!
18:27 VanessaE bbl
18:27 Traxie21 O_O
18:27 Calinou hello americans
18:27 * Calinou listens to a MP3
18:27 Traxie21 Hello frenchies!
18:28 Calinou GMT+1 FTW, people never sleep in front of you
18:28 Calinou mfw I play minecraft at 10am and everyone goes like "I have to go"
18:28 TheBonsai lol, rats(?) are catapulted into the sky in simplemobs :)
18:28 rubenwardy Traxie21: maybe when you press ctrl
18:28 Calinou TheBonsai: update to latest git
18:28 mauvebic yeah but alot of north american players dont seem to sleep at night at all :p
18:28 Traxie21 Yeah, good idea
18:28 Traxie21 How hard would that be to implement?
18:28 Traxie21 As well as custom naming of nodeboxes
18:29 rubenwardy custom naming would be easy
18:29 Calinou nodebox generator? I was about to take a piece of paper, draw a square on it, with X and Z directions to remember, and put it to the left of my keyboard
18:29 TheBonsai Calinou: i cloned it yesterday (or did you mean Minetest itself?)
18:29 rubenwardy ctrl scale is harder, but not impossible
18:29 Traxie21 https://github.com/rubenwardy/The-NodeBox-Generator
18:31 Traxie21 Also, is there a way to edit the code directly?
18:31 Traxie21 shouldn't be too hard to implement
18:31 * Traxie21 starts creating issues w/ suggestions, without knowning C++
18:32 rubenwardy there will be an import function
18:32 rubenwardy and you will be able to create a nodebox box by entering co-ords
18:32 Calinou TheBonsai: games/minetest_game and games/common
18:32 rubenwardy Windows build: ubuntuone.com/5j08Y2cWflbAcnnb4Ft3LA
18:32 Calinou update these
18:32 mauvebic you mean to visualize the nodebox before restarting the game 12 times?
18:33 rubenwardy Windows build: http://ubuntuone.com/5j08Y2cWflbAcnnb4Ft3LA
18:33 rubenwardy http://ubuntuone.com/7mffWuhmnE8EalOqnugg7K
18:33 rubenwardy ^ image
18:34 rubenwardy (screenshot)
18:34 Traxie21 Crosshair images?
18:34 Traxie21 Pleaxe!
18:35 rubenwardy huh?
18:35 rubenwardy oh, for center
18:35 Traxie21 The drag handles have images
18:35 Traxie21 mine dosnt
18:35 Traxie21 Cloning...
18:35 rubenwardy the images do not work in irrlicht 1.7.3
18:35 rubenwardy transparency issues
18:36 rubenwardy ie: it is completely white
18:37 Traxie21 Ah, I see that :I
18:38 mauvebic if nodes were 1/4 or 1/8 size, you could build furniture like that in game with any node/texture
18:38 Traxie21 Can I fork this?
18:38 mauvebic lol
18:38 rubenwardy of course
18:38 Traxie21 Didnt see license anywhere...
18:38 rubenwardy Tip: use the arrow keys to rotate the perspective license
18:38 mauvebic needs one :p
18:38 rubenwardy CC BY SA NC
18:38 rubenwardy not sure about NC
18:39 mauvebic world of pain
18:39 rubenwardy I will just use CC BY SA
18:39 rubenwardy oh
18:39 mauvebic if you value sanity, yes :-) :p
18:39 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/The-NodeBox-Generator/blob/master/README.md#license
18:39 rubenwardy It was already there :P
18:40 mauvebic is gtk, qt, or win?
18:40 rubenwardy huh?
18:40 rubenwardy C++ and Irrlicht
18:40 mauvebic ingame?
18:41 rubenwardy no, new program
18:41 [0gb_us] PilzAdam: I don't place dry shrubs. Or if I do, it was a mistake.
18:42 * [0gb_us] is back
18:42 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2840 is the topic thread for the node box editor
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18:43 rubenwardy is cc by sa appropriate for this project?
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18:43 rubenwardy Jordach: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2840
18:43 [0gb_us] Hmmm. I see the issue. I'll fix that, PilzAdam.
18:44 Jordach rubenwardy, it doesnt compile with cmake for me
18:44 rubenwardy missing irrlicht error?
18:44 Jordach hold on, lemme test latest git
18:44 PilzAdam [0gb_us], VanessaE, https://github.com/PilzAdam/common/commits/flowers
18:45 Jordach http://pastebin.com/QtaMD40Q
18:45 Jordach rubenwardy, ^
18:45 rubenwardy yeah
18:45 rubenwardy can not find irrlicht
18:45 Jordach any fix?
18:45 rubenwardy Kaeza made the cmake script
18:46 Jordach properly like minetest
18:46 mauvebic system package, or does it compile with mt?
18:46 Jordach system package
18:46 rubenwardy yeah, I shall nick the script from minetest (findirrlicht
18:46 rubenwardy )
18:46 mauvebic fancy that i have it too pyrrhic victory
18:47 [0gb_us] PilzAdam: Awesome, thanks!
18:47 mauvebic community/irrlicht 1.8-1 [installed]
18:47 mauvebic wtf lol
18:47 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/cmake/Modules/FindIrrlicht.cmake
18:47 PilzAdam [0gb_us], can you test the growing speed
18:47 PilzAdam ^ VanessaE too
18:47 rubenwardy I dont have cmake, so I can not test it
18:47 rubenwardy (i am in windows)
18:48 rubenwardy And I have got to go now.
18:48 rubenwardy There is a windows build... Maybe ask Traxie21 for a .deb/.zip
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18:48 rubenwardy Basically kaeza used a wierd method.
18:48 Traxie21 On linux, cd to the directory it's installed in, and type make
18:48 Traxie21 that easy
18:48 [0gb_us] Okay, sure. Hold on, I need to finish a small one line pull request, then I'll test.
18:49 rubenwardy just make???
18:49 rubenwardy or cmake as well
18:49 [0gb_us] Oh, what? WHere did the flowers go? They're gone.
18:49 rubenwardy bye
18:50 rubenwardy post and questions in the topic
18:50 rubenwardy *any
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18:50 Jordach typing make after cmake works
18:50 Traxie21 just make afaik, you may have to cmake first
18:50 [0gb_us] Okay, found.
18:51 sfan5 does announcing to servers.minetest.net always take so long?
18:52 [0gb_us] PilzAdam: Git hub won't let me pull request to your fork, but the comment says to add dry shrubs in case of sand. It should say to add flowers in case of dirt_with_grass.
18:52 [0gb_us] *Github
18:52 Traxie21 Ruben, I added clouds :3
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18:53 PilzAdam [0gb_us], fixed
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18:59 PilzAdam [0gb_us], another small update: reduced the flora nodes per 4x4x4 block to 4
18:59 [0gb_us] Okay, redownloading.
18:59 PilzAdam and would you agree to make flowers buildable_to?
19:00 [0gb_us] I really don't like them being buildable_to, but you're the boss, so I can't really say no.
19:00 PilzAdam lol
19:00 PilzAdam VanessaE, what do you think?
19:01 [0gb_us] I'm not even joking.
19:01 [0gb_us] VanessaE wants them to be buildable_to as well, or she said she did the other day, anyway.
19:01 PilzAdam Im not just doing what I want
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19:01 Traxie21 rubenwardy: Pull request submitted
19:01 PilzAdam I do listen to others
19:03 Calinou how can you listen to others on IRC?
19:03 Calinou you can just read what they say.
19:03 Calinou :trollface:
19:03 * Jordach laughs
19:04 Jordach anyways, im deaf in one ear
19:04 mauvebic i see dead people
19:04 mauvebic :P
19:04 Jordach mauvebic, hows the multicolored lights
19:05 [0gb_us] I do too, I'm digging them up while I wait for flowers to grow.
19:05 mauvebic in which game?
19:05 [0gb_us] No diasies to push up though.
19:05 Jordach mauvebic, im annoyed: Arch Linux Torrent: 0kb/s down, 70kb/s up
19:05 Calinou lol, torrents
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19:06 mauvebic ISPs(assrape) slow torrent traffic, download the http, it should be faster
19:06 PilzAdam [0gb_us], note that you need at least the light 13 for the flowers to grow (same as grass)
19:06 PilzAdam *dirt_with_grass
19:06 Calinou a lot of ISPs slow down torrents... fortunately
19:06 Calinou else our up speeds would suck even more
19:07 [0gb_us] Okay, I didn't know that had been added. Hopefully this area is light enough then.
19:07 mauvebic tho here they do it around dinna time until 1 or 2 am
19:07 Calinou more like people are on youtube
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19:07 Calinou wb
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19:08 Calinou hello tablet user
19:08 Calinou can you upload your mod to me? :>
19:08 mauvebic tablet? get 'im
19:08 mauvebic :P
19:10 [0gb_us] PilzAdam: Why is the cotton flower defined if we can't access it? We don't need more unusable nodes such as cloud and dirt_with_grass_footsteps .... Maybe alias the cotton flower and cotton wad to the white flower?
19:10 mauvebic i have to upgrade my shitty lair, my wife decided to build her castle right next to it :/
19:11 PilzAdam [0gb_us], to not end up with unknown nodes, items in maps that previously used the flower mod
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19:11 Calinou mauvebic, shitting in your lair is not good.
19:11 [0gb_us] PilzAdam: if you alias them to the white flower, they won't be unkown nodes.
19:11 PilzAdam and what about cotton?
19:12 [0gb_us] Alias cotton to the white flower. It came from the cotton flower, so it's close enough, and better than having inaccessible items.
19:13 mauvebic calinou no poop mod here
19:14 * Calinou shits a full wood tile
19:15 mauvebic lol
19:15 mauvebic leaves?
19:15 PilzAdam VanessaE, are you ok with that?
19:17 * jojoa1997|Tablet adding sprinting to minitest
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19:20 Calinou jojoa1997|Tablet, just change fast move speed to 5
19:20 Calinou give fast priv by default
19:20 Calinou ???
19:20 Calinou PROFIT
19:22 [0gb_us] I think all the flowers EXCEPT the ones I'm actually monitoring are spreading. BUt I can't track all of them, so I don't know fore sure if any have grown yet.
19:23 [0gb_us] *for
19:23 Traxie21 What mod is it 0gb.us?
19:23 Traxie21 Calinou: player:set_physics_override(5, 1, 1)
19:24 Calinou you can just edit minetest.conf to change fast move speed
19:24 [0gb_us] Oh? You made it so players can't steal other players' locked chests? Awesome!
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19:30 PilzAdam [0gb_us], what do you think about turning all flora things to dry_shrub if desert_sand is under it?
19:30 PilzAdam (use the same ABM for that)
19:30 jojoa1997|Tablet how do i use rubenwardy's nodebox generator
19:32 [0gb_us] PilzAdam: That sounds wonderful to me.
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19:39 [0gb_us] Flower growth speed seems fine.
19:40 Calinou jojoa1997|Tablet, there are windows bins available, and on linux you just compile
19:40 Calinou look at the nodebox generator topic
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19:41 PilzAdam [0gb_us], dry shrub thing pushed
19:42 Jordach2 Calinou, you got the order of windows bin
19:42 Jordach2 bin windows should have been the correct wording
19:43 jojoa1997|Tablet Traxie21 please update to Minitest 1.4.1
19:43 Calinou bins don't have windows, but you can put a bin on your window
19:43 Calinou (make sure it doesn't fall)
19:44 Traxie21 jojoa1997|Tablet: Is there any important bugfixes in that?
19:44 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah
19:44 sokomine dry shrub...it ought to form balls and roll through the desert (like in films of the western genre; don't know if those bushes ever do that rl)
19:44 jojoa1997|Tablet well kinda
19:44 jojoa1997|Tablet i fixed the armor mod
19:44 jojoa1997|Tablet you can also craft armor now
19:44 jojoa1997|Tablet just update anyways
19:45 Traxie21 fine..
19:45 jojoa1997|Tablet What does everyone think of having auto descending stairs
19:46 jojoa1997|Tablet also
19:46 jojoa1997|Tablet one sec
19:46 jojoa1997|Tablet is there a way i can set no limit to fps
19:47 [0gb_us] sokomine: Those are called tumble weeds, and are real.
19:47 PilzAdam anyone opposed to change the dry_shrub selection box to the standard grass selectionbox?
19:47 jojoa1997|Tablet wait let me see diff
19:47 Calinou they can sokomine, bushes are very light so they are easily pushed by wind
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19:48 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah change it
19:48 [0gb_us] PilzAdam: It doesn't really match the shape of dry shrubs, so why? But I don't really care. Also, the grass selection doesn't match jungle grass. Again, I don't care, just pointing it out.
19:48 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam make snowballs throwable
19:48 jojoa1997|Tablet i already did in minitest
19:48 john_minetest sokomine: It is called "tumbleweed" in some countries.
19:49 PilzAdam [0gb_us], the shapes really depend on the texture pack, so I dont want to limit them with the selectionbox
19:49 [0gb_us] I already said those were tumble weeds.
19:49 john_minetest "form balls and roll through the desert"^^
19:49 [0gb_us] PilzAdam: Ah, got it.
19:49 john_minetest oh, sry overread that xD
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19:59 jojoa1997|Tablet Traxie21 isthe update done?
19:59 Traxie21 Working on it
20:00 Traxie21 Its only serverextended, but the server's connection is horribly bad today
20:00 jojoa1997|Tablet How would i check to see if something is pointing at the upper half or lower half of a node?
20:01 Calinou you can't, iirc
20:03 sokomine intresting. perhaps it takes a very dry and windy environment to make them...er...tumble. anyway, such a moving bush might not be bad ingame
20:05 sokomine a bit of movement here and there in a limited fashion could add to the game. maybe like clouds moving...
20:06 jojoa1997|Tablet what is the recipe for screwdrivers
20:06 Calinou X
20:06 Calinou O
20:06 Calinou X is steel, O a stick
20:07 sokomine my replacer mod is also useful for handling them
20:08 Calinou nice advertising you have there :3
20:08 Traxie21 My updater mod is good for keeping games up-to-date? :3
20:08 Traxie21 :quit
20:09 Traxie21 oops, thought I was in SSH
20:09 harrison mods vs rockers
20:10 Calinou Traxie21, :quit?
20:10 [0gb_us] This is ssh. Please enter your password.
20:10 Calinou command to quit ssh is "exit", or just close terminal
20:10 Calinou [0gb_us], ILIKEBRONIES
20:10 [0gb_us] I use logout to exit ssh.
20:11 Traxie21 Calinou, I was in ssh and screen
20:11 Calinou there are probably many commands to do that, yeah
20:11 Traxie21 ALT+A, then :quit will shutdown the screen immediately
20:11 Calinou ctrl+A then ctrl+D to leave a screen, that's what I use :P
20:11 [0gb_us] Exit, quit, and logout all work for me.
20:11 Calinou I never shut down screens personally
20:11 Traxie21 Calinou, I was trying to shutdown minetestserver from screen :P
20:12 Calinou ah
20:12 * sokomine grins at calinou
20:12 * [0gb_us] likes ls, as he can't remember his file names
20:13 Traxie21 XD
20:13 jojoa1997|Tablet SNOW
20:13 * Traxie21 hates it when downloads are name something like blahblas_3980-yes-master_390+03_302-12-22-13
20:13 Traxie21 and I have to cd into them >:C
20:13 jojoa1997|Tablet sorry
20:13 sokomine that's what tab and name completition is for
20:14 Calinou Tracerneo, just tab complete :P
20:14 jojoa1997|Tablet snow needs to be a craftitem and when placed changed into fallen snow
20:14 jojoa1997|Tablet or ground snow
20:14 Calinou make it a node with inventory and wield images that look like a snowball
20:14 Calinou +1 for being able to place snowballs
20:15 Calinou throwing is... meh
20:15 Tracerneo Who called me?
20:15 [0gb_us] Traxie21: I know, and Github always renames my files like that ....
20:15 Traxie21 Ive had downloads with almost 20 characters in them
20:15 Traxie21 *30
20:16 Calinou Tracerneo, fail tab complete
20:16 Calinou I tell people to tab complete and I fail :<
20:16 Tracerneo Calinou: when you tab-complete, don't tab-fail. ;D
20:16 Calinou type "c" and press tab, lots of nicks :P
20:17 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam update jeija's shader download please http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547
20:18 khonkhortisan Okay. C_alinou c_eleron55 C_erise C_hanServ C_hauffeR c_isoun c_odile C_orey c_osarara97 C_risco
20:19 Traxie21 O_O
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20:20 [0gb_us] Come on, remove the underscores and page everyone ....
20:21 jojoa1997|Tablet [0gbus]
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20:22 * [0gb_us] installs kaeza'a IRC plugin on his Minetest server, and links it to this channel
20:23 Traxie21 I did that, almost got banned
20:23 khonkhortisan jojoa1997Tablet
20:24 [0gb_us] It would fill up the channel so quickly ... I wouldn't really do it, I linked it to another channel.
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20:25 jojoa1997|Tablet what
20:25 khonkhortisan I didn't highlight you
20:26 jojoa1997|Tablet you forgot the |
20:26 khonkhortisan you forgot the _
20:27 jojoa1997|Tablet wtf is with th sounds
20:27 jojoa1997|Tablet i am always getting attampt to index global default
20:29 jojoa1997|Tablet we need a better way for sounds
20:29 jojoa1997|Tablet without using the default global
20:30 khonkhortisan The craft definition says method, width, items, output but the example right after it uses type, width, output, items. Which one do I use?
20:32 * jojoa1997|Tablet is tired of erasing sounds due to default global
20:34 * jojoa1997|Tablet is having fun with snowballs
20:37 Traxie21 Holy cow jojoa
20:38 jojoa1997|Tablet what?
20:38 Traxie21 1hr, 40 minutes until minitest finishes copying :I
20:38 jojoa1997|Tablet uh i didnt do that
20:38 Traxie21 horrible upload speed on my end
20:38 jojoa1997|Tablet you have a slow computer
20:38 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah that
20:38 BlockMen jojoa1997 -> http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86222#p86222
20:38 Traxie21 *Internet connection
20:39 Traxie21 also, jojo, inventory still requires pressing I
20:39 Traxie21 *crafting
20:39 thexyz wtf, github, why?
20:39 jojoa1997|Tablet no
20:39 jojoa1997|Tablet traxie it is lag
20:39 jojoa1997|Tablet works on mine
20:40 Traxie21 Github: Unicorn?
20:41 Calinou old news
20:41 Calinou it happens quite a lot these hours
20:41 Calinou works for me
20:42 Calinou Traxie21, how big is minitest?
20:42 Calinou to upload my four packs, I took like 40 minutes (MCE + misa + soartex + faithful)
20:42 Traxie21 4.0MB
20:42 Calinou MCE being almost 20MB :p
20:42 thexyz > 20:40 UTC We are investigating issues with reaching GitHub.com
20:43 Calinou > implying
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20:43 Traxie21 It could be my server's download speed
20:44 thexyz Calinou: what?
20:44 Calinou that's the joke, you put a ">" for no real reason
20:45 Calinou Traxie21, someone else on the machine where your VPS is on is mining bitcoins again? :3
20:46 jojoa1997|Tablet Traxie you are getting it from the forums and not github right?
20:46 Traxie21 > Prolly
20:46 Traxie21 Yes jojoa, from the forums
20:47 jojoa1997|Tablet first thing i will do is set up a snow ball arena
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20:47 jojoa1997|Tablet can i have giveme so i can get big amounts of snowballs
20:47 Traxie21 I already did give u giveme
20:47 jojoa1997|Tablet oh
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20:51 thexyz Calinou: quotation
20:54 thexyz wow
20:55 thexyz the Ultimate Commit project got 0 commits in last 3 days while minetest/minetest got 11
20:55 Calinou lol
20:55 thexyz was it dead-born?
20:55 Calinou no, it's born-dead
20:56 thexyz oh, ingrish is such a hard language
20:56 jojoa1997|Tablet not really
20:56 jojoa1997|Tablet it is actually easy
20:57 jojoa1997|Tablet well i am a native so maybe i should relate to spanish being hard
20:57 Calinou does anyone actually _see_ I'm a french speaker, not english? :P
20:57 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah
21:00 Koren y
21:00 Calinou a Koren suddenly appeared
21:01 Koren wild*
21:01 jojoa1997|Tablet smooth
21:01 Traxie21 steve
21:03 jojoa1997|Tablet i just watched a video of how a guy built this house out of wood and it was a mansion. He thought he should make a fire place and it burned down his house. It was 6 stories high and at least 100 wide
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21:31 PilzAdam bye
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21:41 StrayBytes Are there any plans to introduce MysQL support in Minetest?
21:42 StrayBytes That and a few changes==failover
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21:45 Demon_Fox_ Wow, this game has gotten popular since they added audio.
21:46 Demon_Fox_ I wonder if the dirt still looks like vomit, or if I should make a texture for it?
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22:08 Deivan Is possible in the current game core add a cursor when you is going to add a node, with a ghost version of the node in your hand?
22:08 Deivan As a preview of the result.
22:11 Kacey Deivan, no thanks on that idea
22:12 Deivan oO
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22:13 Deivan I lost many time puting nodes to the correct positions after the change in the moreblocks but before it I have problems with it.
22:14 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/f/pEKmssOy
22:15 Deivan The current game engine put a pursor when you area pointing some...
22:15 Deivan My idea is if is possible add more than the box marking a node.
22:19 RealBadAngel like what?
22:19 harrison my aunt's star sign was Cancer. ironic considering the way she died
22:19 harrison killed by a giant crab!
22:19 Deivan A ghost marker of the future node in your hand.
22:19 Deivan A preview of this.
22:20 RealBadAngel have you played mc with RedPower2 mod?
22:20 Deivan I don't know the mc...
22:21 Deivan I found a video at youtube...  Let me see it.
22:21 Deivan AFK
22:21 RealBadAngel it is using cool system when placin extra nodeboxes
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22:21 RealBadAngel selection box is highlighted with type of the nodebox in hand
22:22 RealBadAngel so, depends on look angle you can actually see the shape of node to put
22:23 RealBadAngel i will implement this when ability to change nodeboxes on the fly becomes reality
22:23 Deivan Nice.  :)
22:24 Kacey hey RealBadAngel, i had an awesome idea but i need consultation on it
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22:24 RealBadAngel hi Kacey, go on
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22:25 Kacey i think there should be a way to make connected textures in default and maybe a "minetest.register_multi-block" function
22:26 VanessaE hi all, again
22:26 RealBadAngel "a way" can be implemented when way how it works is defined ;)
22:27 VanessaE <PilzAdam>  (for the log)  buildable_to is a yes, but don't alias cotton to anything. Either define it and use it, or don't define it at all and I'll cover it with the external flowers mod.
22:27 NakedFury Kacey : like in this minecraft mod: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/228862-125connected-textures-mod-v141/
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22:28 Kacey NakedFury, more like the glass viewers in xycraft mod
22:28 VanessaE damn it, I hate that.  so used to ctrl-W = word delete in shell.
22:28 Kacey i am replicating xycraft with xytest
22:28 RealBadAngel try to describe, maybe in  forums, how it should work
22:30 Kacey i cant describe how it wouldwork
22:30 VanessaE <PilzAdam>  (for the log) turning stuff to dry shrub in the desert is fine as long as things can live for at least a brief time.  I'm okay with the selection box being changed, but I don't think it needs to cover the whole node for something that's only half the volume of the node at most.
22:30 Kacey SPACE. KEY.
22:30 RealBadAngel so what for u need it?
22:30 RealBadAngel sample usage then pleas
22:30 RealBadAngel *e
22:31 NakedFury for making connected glass node look like one big glass and not look like individual glass nodes?
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22:32 RealBadAngel (for the log) when you will want to add certain smaller nodebox to already placed in node set of nodeboxes, such change is a MUST HAVE
22:32 RealBadAngel its called placing prediction
22:34 RealBadAngel for example adding frame corners - selected face shall be highlighted with shape of a box showin which edge will be used when put
22:36 RealBadAngel to make story short, it shall show the user what will happen if he place wielded nodebox there
22:37 Kacey RealBadAngel, http://feed-the-beast.wikia.com/wiki/Glass_viewer
22:38 RealBadAngel a) such glass draw type is almost finished and coming soon
22:38 Kacey aaah
22:38 Kacey and what about the multi-block function?
22:39 RealBadAngel b) i will definitely try to implement storage tanks with it
22:39 Kacey i want tanks in xytest D:
22:39 Kacey although xytest can be part of the technic modpack
22:40 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/t2HpgHT.jpg
22:40 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/AfERhKw.png
22:42 RealBadAngel the multiblock, you mean storages (tanks) bigger than a single node?
22:42 RealBadAngel engine can provide way to make them look so
22:43 RealBadAngel but its up to modder to decide what to do with them
22:43 NakedFury Kacey that is exactly what I posted in that minecraft link
22:43 NakedFury but also works for bookshelves and 2 chests side by side
22:45 RealBadAngel btw, if you folks want to have chests that will open when accesed i suggest to start learning blender
22:45 RealBadAngel because it will be possible
22:46 RealBadAngel but animations will be needed just :)
22:46 [0gb_us] Why would we want opening chests?
22:46 NakedFury animated opening chests
22:46 RealBadAngel because theyre cool as hell? :)
22:46 NakedFury yeah man
22:47 NakedFury and would animated pistons or pumps work better too?
22:47 RealBadAngel what i mean exactly is drawtype mesh is coming soon
22:47 [0gb_us] They don't seem cool to me, but whatevr.
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22:47 RealBadAngel and it can hold animations
22:47 [0gb_us] *whatever
22:47 NakedFury ohh it will seem cool to you
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22:48 RealBadAngel opening chests are just an example
22:49 khonkhortisan A button actually being pushed
22:49 RealBadAngel other: crystal formation with sparkles of light from time to time
22:49 khonkhortisan a line of gunpowder disappearing from one end to the other
22:49 [0gb_us] NakedFury: No, it won't. Simple seems better to me.
22:50 [0gb_us] Sparkling crystals does sound good though.
22:50 NakedFury sparkling crystals can be done now with just an animation to the textures
22:50 NakedFury like torches
22:50 RealBadAngel but flat
22:50 RealBadAngel i want 3d crystals
22:51 VanessaE so did everyone see the updates to moreblocks, moretrees, and homedecor today? :()
22:51 VanessaE :)
22:51 RealBadAngel im sooo scared to do so
22:51 RealBadAngel :)
22:51 VanessaE meh, make them anyway, RealBadAngel.
22:51 VanessaE who gives two shits what the rest of the community thinks about one measly mesh.
22:51 * RealBadAngel is afraid of bugfixes needed ;)
22:52 VanessaE (that is, of course, referring entirely to the naysayers)
22:52 VanessaE so if it bugs out, no biggie.  just fix it
22:53 RealBadAngel that is exactly what im afraid of ;)
22:55 VanessaE heh
22:55 VanessaE you're worried it'll be another thing like the argument you had with the big glass slabs thing
22:56 RealBadAngel well, im thinkin now how to display part of the texture
22:56 RealBadAngel to represent amount of liquid in the storage tank
22:56 RealBadAngel well i do know
22:57 VanessaE storage tank?  you mean pipeworks?
22:57 mauvebic use 1 node instead of ten, with nice formspec (or pipewrench tool), what i did
22:57 Kacey no, multi-block tanks
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22:58 RealBadAngel glass_like framed + extra nodebox inside with height from 0 to 16 to represent fluids inside
22:58 mauvebic entity?
22:58 RealBadAngel i can make it engine
22:58 mauvebic thats kinda like finite liquids
22:59 mauvebic you could prolly use particlespawner for fountains/mists
23:00 RealBadAngel funny idea indeed
23:00 mauvebic particlespawner fountainhead = no mess lol
23:00 RealBadAngel but i will make separate drawtype for tanks
23:00 mauvebic new drawtype?
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23:01 RealBadAngel mauvebic, you know, that certain engine files are the place im playin with for weeks already
23:01 mauvebic i noticed in MC they show stuff moving through tubes/pipes wtv they call em lol
23:02 RealBadAngel so i feel there like home by now
23:02 mauvebic actually i havent been keeping track of commits :/
23:02 RealBadAngel meshes, drawtypes are now easy for me
23:02 mauvebic but if i understand,  youre adding new drawtypes?
23:03 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/sr48Fwh.png
23:04 RealBadAngel yup
23:04 mauvebic which one's the new one?
23:04 RealBadAngel you dont see the differnce in the posted screenshot? ;)
23:05 mauvebic well i see the glass textures join at the edges
23:05 RealBadAngel not textures, frames
23:06 RealBadAngel they form boxes
23:06 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/YRNwzwa.jpg
23:07 RealBadAngel ^^this is indev
23:07 mauvebic weird, though cool, what you gonna use em for?
23:07 RealBadAngel huge glass surfaces
23:07 RealBadAngel cool windows
23:08 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/0rxQz99.jpg
23:08 mauvebic check out my lair: http://ompldr.org/vaTdwYg/8.jpg
23:09 RealBadAngel kinda scary
23:09 mauvebic yeah i had this image from riven in my head when i did it lol the evil guy's lair lol
23:11 mauvebic it has to look scary though, check out the wife's castle next door:  http://ompldr.org/vaTdwYw/1f.jpg
23:14 RealBadAngel cool
23:16 Exio 31
23:16 Exio OOPS
23:16 Exio oops * caps, sorry :
23:17 Exio meh, 3 fails
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23:23 RealBadAngel http://feed-the-beast.wikia.com/wiki/Glass_viewer?file=2013-04-12_13.52.59.png
23:23 RealBadAngel gosh mc trees are ugly compared to ours :)
23:26 VanessaE what are the blue ones?
23:27 mauvebic not just the trees, but their houses lol
23:27 mauvebic blue trees = pod people
23:27 VanessaE homedecor ftw :)
23:28 mauvebic be prepared for donald sutherland mob
23:28 RealBadAngel this is propably generated by game village
23:29 mauvebic http://youtu.be/GEStsLJZhzo
23:29 VanessaE those aren't bad little houses though, sorta looks like sokomine's villages
23:30 mauvebic i saw another mod though that creates giants blocks of grass under the houses to level out the land
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23:31 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaTdwaw/screenshot_3.png a tow truck towing a tow truck towing a truck towing a gooseneck
23:32 mauvebic lol
23:33 Kacey little crazy
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23:47 Exio jojoa1997|Tablet: why do you say, always and everytime i look at you saying stuff about compiling on android, as it is easy as hell and is just one command?
23:48 jojoa1997|Tablet ?
23:48 mauvebic im confused too lol
23:49 jojoa1997|Tablet also why did i come on i didnt open the app
23:49 jojoa1997|Tablet >.>
23:49 Exio http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5506
23:49 Exio "sfan5 has compiled minetest on android but the irrlicht examples don't work. He hasn't actually tried to run minetest and I have asked for a download multiple times."
23:49 Exio do you really think doing that is trivial?
23:50 jojoa1997|Tablet i cant compile anything
23:50 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah that was how long ago
23:50 jojoa1997|Tablet times changed and views have changed
23:51 Exio long ago?
23:51 Exio ....?
23:52 Exio wasn't that like... 2 weeks ago?
23:52 NakedFury that isnt long ago by any standards
23:53 jojoa1997|Tablet it is in my world
23:53 jojoa1997|Tablet so much happens in my days i lose track of time
23:54 jojoa1997|Tablet when did i release 1.4 4 days ago?
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23:54 Exio i can't keep the track of the time either, i just can get the difference between "weeks" and "months"
23:55 jojoa1997|Tablet my time =
23:55 jojoa1997|Tablet month , year, how many more days till this assignment is due, aroud how much longe to end of school, is it weekend?
23:56 Exio lol k
23:56 Exio say whatever you want
23:56 Exio i just say saying that about the time is dumb
23:56 jojoa1997|Tablet heck the only way i remember what day it is
23:57 Exio i don't recall that :)
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23:59 jojoa1997|Tablet mon=first day back, tues=eng test day, wed=short day, thurs=history test(quick study as much as you can), fri=spanish test(same as thurs.),, fri afternoon=oh it is the weekend!?!?!?, saturday=play day, sunday = rush to finish homework

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