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00:00 Gambit He's taken a liking to discussing bestiality now.
00:00 jojoa1997|Tablet is there a mod that has steel bars
00:00 mauvebic bestiality? is it monday already
00:00 Gambit Specifically goats.
00:00 VanessaE ohh brother
00:00 mauvebic "he swore he'd love me until the end of time! i didn't realize he meant until closing time"
00:01 VanessaE Gambit: well, all of @gateway/web/freenode/ is muted now anyway
00:01 Gambit Ah okay.
00:01 mauvebic cant blame me, i only suggested sheep-fornication mod :p
00:02 mauvebic its kinda hard to sex other players, they all seem to be eunuchs
00:02 mauvebic oh and the cooking dead players to soap mod, that was my idea too :P
00:02 VanessaE well nevermind that such topics would be borderline illegal here - too many < 18 year olds here.
00:02 mauvebic lol
00:02 mauvebic if you think im being serious... :p
00:02 VanessaE (nevermind them just being offtopic)
00:02 Exio here and freenode
00:03 Exio (iirc)
00:03 jojoa1997|Tablet is there a mod that has steel bars
00:03 mauvebic kinda throw those out there to see if someone would actually do it
00:03 enchilado VanessaE: uh... it's illegal to talk about sex in front of people who are under eighteen?
00:03 VanessaE enchilado: yep, unless you are a parent giving your child the "birds and the bees" talk, it's illegal
00:03 mauvebic no but any kind of fornication mod might cause parents' to remove minetest' from their childs' computer :p
00:03 enchilado VanessaE: in what crazy country is that the case?
00:04 Exio http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#offtopic
00:04 mauvebic in puritanical america :p
00:04 Exio Unlawful activities and their related support activities are considered off-topic, as are inappropriate advertising, heavy media file trading, gaming and proprietary game software modding, warez, hax0r activity, porn and various forms of antisocial behavior, including (but not limited to) political, racial, ethnic, religious or gender-related invective. Off-topic activity may result in users being barred
00:04 Exio from the network.
00:04 mauvebic i saw a fail video of someone pretending to fornicate with an inflatable dolphin, they got arrested (this, in florida)
00:05 * jojoa1997|Tablet is under 18
00:05 VanessaE enchilado: USA, where else :-/
00:05 enchilado Exio: where does it mention talking about sex?
00:05 VanessaE we would get tagged as child predators or something.
00:05 mauvebic though i also found 25 videos of someone honking a train horn all around town, they got away with, so go figure  :p
00:05 enchilado VanessaE: while freenode has servers in the US, it's based in the UK
00:05 VanessaE enchilado: people here in the US are fucking insane about it
00:06 Exio jojoa1997|Tablet: we got your age, btw
00:06 VanessaE yeah well tell that to the US government.  Didn't you know our borders extend from pole to pole and date line to prime meridian?
00:06 VanessaE :-/
00:06 jojoa1997|Tablet so what it is obvious isnt it
00:06 enchilado VanessaE: I mean - are you telling me they have an 18+ rating on all movies with sex mentioned in them?
00:06 jojoa1997|Tablet no
00:06 VanessaE enchilado: it depends.
00:06 jojoa1997|Tablet pg13
00:06 VanessaE a mere mention, no
00:06 enchilado What about sex scenes?
00:07 VanessaE some kind of sex act, even alluded to, often yes
00:07 jojoa1997|Tablet RRRRRRRR
00:07 VanessaE sex scenes?  NC17.
00:07 jojoa1997|Tablet NC19
00:07 VanessaE (what we used to call X)
00:07 jojoa1997|Tablet is there a mod that has steel bars
00:07 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: homedecor has.
00:07 VanessaE also 3dforniture
00:07 VanessaE (from which they're taken()
00:07 VanessaE )
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00:09 enchilado VanessaE: here movies with mild sex scenes probably have an M15+ rating, which means they need to be 15 or over to watch it - unless they're accompanied by a parent or guardian.
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00:11 VanessaE enchilado: here if it gets violent or references to a sex act (say, two people getting it in behind closed doors, out of the camera's view), it's almost guaranteed to get a PG13.  R pretty much for really harsh language, full frontal nudity, significant violence.   NC17 for pretty much anything more than that.
00:11 VanessaE unofficially, "XXX" if it's specifically a porno flick
00:11 VanessaE (which is more or less equivalent to NC17)
00:12 enchilado Why does violence have a lower rating than sex?
00:12 VanessaE I don't know.
00:12 VanessaE bunch of prudes.
00:12 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaTZmdQ/screenshot_33834768.png infinite powa!!!!!!!
00:12 VanessaE most of us here blame it on the religious nutjobs.
00:12 VanessaE Kacey: and infinite lag :)
00:13 enchilado Kacey: yellowstone?
00:13 VanessaE (not really lag)
00:13 Kacey no, no lag at all
00:13 VanessaE enchilado: Mesecons, like redstone
00:13 Kacey just stays on
00:13 VanessaE enchilado: the object depicted is a delayer, similar to a redstone repeater.
00:13 ShadowNinja Kacey: try a NOT gate ;-)
00:13 enchilado Hrm :\
00:14 milleja46 geez really need a unregistered channel XD
00:14 VanessaE enchilado:  http://mesecons.net/items.php
00:14 enchilado Minetest could be a fantastic game, but I find it disappointing that it copies so much of what Minecraft does (especially since Minecraft does a lot of stuff poorly)
00:15 khonkhortisan a delayer combined with either a not or a diode
00:15 khonkhortisan Don't worry, minetest does some things poorly on its own
00:15 VanessaE enchilado: a lot of that copying is unavoidable though
00:15 VanessaE I mean, it IS a voxel-based sandbox
00:15 enchilado I think less of it is unavoidable than it seems at first, but I agree some of it is
00:16 enchilado I mean, unless you want to do something crazy you're still going to have grass and rivers and trees and stone and dirt and such.
00:16 VanessaE right
00:16 VanessaE but then, we have my moretrees mod.  I don't think MC has anything like that :D
00:16 enchilado I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't hate Minetest for copying Minecraft or anything
00:16 enchilado I'd just love to see a game that did something very different with the idea
00:17 VanessaE you can be sure MT won't clone anything from MC that's just plain stupid
00:17 VanessaE (why, for example, do we need the Ender Dragon?)
00:17 Kacey ShadowNinja, i know but this was an idea
00:18 ShadowNinja VanessaE: if you include mods they do have that
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00:19 VanessaE ShadowNinja: oh?
00:19 VanessaE heh
00:19 enchilado It kind of seems like Minetest was designed by looking at each aspect of Minecraft and thinking "how should we do this bit?"... I'd love to see what might happen if someone just started with the blocks and worked up from there...
00:19 VanessaE enchilado: some of it is like that, but much of it isn't
00:20 VanessaE every mod I've made, for example, was purely "what else does this need to be 'right'?", without ever looking at MC
00:20 NakedFury minetest will get there after it has its basics done first. sadly the basics mean doing things that minecraft had first so it will seem as copying
00:25 Exio the thing what i like about MT over MC is the opensource-ness
00:26 Exio you can modify a lot of stuff what is actually a pain in MC with a simple editor
00:26 Exio and with real code
00:26 ShadowNinja Yay 60 pull requests now! *irony mark*
00:27 Exio tell me how you would change the code of minecraft to make the grass liquid
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00:28 Exio or being able to tweak the code of something what draws the HUD, or so
00:28 khonkhortisan Or to have it texture every block the same
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00:29 mauvebic <enchilado> check out blockscape, its not trying to copy MC ;p
00:29 Exio i mean, you can actually tweak a lot of the game without ever having to decompile and understand code what looks like brainfuck
00:29 jojoa1997|Tablet VanessaE can i have a link to homedecor
00:29 VanessaE no :)
00:29 Exio aww
00:29 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=26061
00:30 jojoa1997|Tablet the foru,
00:30 VanessaE :D
00:30 VanessaE just kidding
00:30 VanessaE see aboe
00:30 VanessaE above*
00:33 jojoa1997|Tablet is there a way i can make mesecons lose power as its distance from the source increases
00:34 VanessaE dunno
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00:34 VanessaE and I would hate if they did, too
00:35 khonkhortisan If you can make mesecons lose power over distance, your effort would be better-spent allowing multiple wires in the same node.
00:35 mauvebic pipeworks has flow pressure, the equivilent would be "tension" in mesecons
00:35 jojoa1997|Tablet unless i can make each wire lose a bit of pressure
00:36 khonkhortisan So if I put a diode in the wire, it'll increase the "pressure"?
00:36 mauvebic which is perfectly natural, wires dont have infinite range ithink
00:37 jordan4ibanez http://imgur.com/9pP7Jue,Azk04W3#0 the first or the second
00:37 jordan4ibanez or both?
00:37 khonkhortisan what is it?
00:37 jordan4ibanez a manvil
00:38 jordan4ibanez a manly anvil
00:38 NakedFury is the difference a bigger...head area?
00:38 khonkhortisan the second
00:38 khonkhortisan the difference is an edge on the texture, no?
00:40 jordan4ibanez http://imgur.com/eAbb9l5,qhOszEI#0
00:40 jordan4ibanez better angle
00:41 khonkhortisan the hoe detected the trees in the distance better than the bucket did
00:43 ShadowNinja jordan4ibanez: The bigger one
00:43 jojoa1997|Tablet i only sw one
00:46 jojoa1997|Tablet O.o
00:46 jojoa1997|Tablet how did i have xpanes in my normal mods but not in minitest
00:47 jojoa1997|Tablet speaking of which would anyone like to do a review on minitest with the next release?
00:47 Exio random thingy
00:47 Exio https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/653#issuecomment-16718033
00:49 Exio how would you suggest that?
00:49 khonkhortisan I only care that I can see white-on-white
00:50 Exio hm :P
00:50 Exio i mean, would you make it red-ish when low health (like less than MAX_HP/4)
00:50 jordan4ibanez I accidentally found the perfect texture on google images http://i.imgur.com/KFHrb9Q.png
00:51 NakedFury I like that one
00:51 NakedFury the sides needs a little touch
00:51 khonkhortisan I've played games that do that. It goes something like white - green - yellow - red or something like that
00:52 jojoa1997|Tablet i like it
00:52 jojoa1997|Tablet Jordan would this be for repairing tools
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00:52 Exio that would be a cool feature, if you enable health_based_crosshair, the "crosshair_color" option gets ignored and things like that should be used - no?
00:52 jojoa1997|Tablet also i suggest letting us rename them
00:53 jojoa1997|Tablet like each tool gets a name
00:53 khonkhortisan It could either colorize an image or pick from multiple images to change the color
00:54 Exio colorize, not multiplie images
00:54 Exio it can be done with small tweaks
00:54 khonkhortisan Some people might want a circular health bar on the cursor
00:55 khonkhortisan But that might be something for the gui
00:55 Exio that should be done with the luahud
00:55 khonkhortisan hud, that's what I meant
00:55 Exio (adding that), but making it client-sidely would be nice
00:55 Exio as i really don't want to overcomplicate the crosshair, really
00:56 Exio (even if i'm doing that! :P)
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01:25 jordan4ibanez who would like to test the snooper powertools and anvil to repair them?
01:26 Kacey i might
01:29 jordan4ibanez https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/Minetest-Black
01:29 jordan4ibanez what I need you to test:
01:30 jordan4ibanez snooper drill: right click, and it removes stone and unearths ores
01:30 jordan4ibanez snooper shovel: right click and it removes crumbly nodes
01:30 jordan4ibanez snooper drill works as a pick, and snooper shovel works as shovel
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01:31 jordan4ibanez after you've damaged the snooper tools, put down an anvil and use a hammer to repair the tools
01:31 jordan4ibanez you need to have the tools in this order: hammer,steelblock,powertool for you to fix the powertool, just punch the anvil and it will transfer some of the health of the hammer to the powertool and will remove a steelingot
01:32 jordan4ibanez and it should play a nice clang sound
01:34 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j87PXzF0mJw&amp;list=SPDE23FAC8A681FA46
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01:56 Kacey night all
01:58 jojoa1997|Tablet jordan where is your wiki
02:01 jordan4ibanez it's on the main topic of the forum post
02:02 * jojoa1997|Tablet grrrr
02:02 kaeza misc: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85750#p85750
02:04 jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez maybe a formspec would allow you to do more later on
02:06 jordan4ibanez I don't like formspecs, they're too non-interactive
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02:06 jojoa1997|Tablet maybe not
02:06 jojoa1997|Tablet make the player put the tool and steel block in the envil and then have them ihit it with the hammer
02:09 jordan4ibanez True, I don't know how to make formspecs though sadly, that's the main reason I don't use them
02:09 jojoa1997|Tablet look at others i could help you tomorrow with it
02:11 jojoa1997|Tablet you interested?
02:11 jojoa1997|Tablet becuase formspecs can be interactive if done right
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02:12 jordan4ibanez I think I'll do it my self, but thanks for the offer
02:14 jojoa1997|Tablet VanessaE is it free to make wikis like your homedecor.wikia?
02:14 VanessaE yes
02:15 jojoa1997|Tablet oh and jordan your flower mod is being used in minitest
02:16 jojoa1997|Tablet and item_drop
02:16 jojoa1997|Tablet VanessaE how?
02:17 jordan4ibanez give me credit jojoa
02:17 VanessaE just go there, make an account, and create a page
02:17 jojoa1997|Tablet jordan i always give credit
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02:21 jojoa1997|Tablet jordan i know you do videos could you make a game review for minitest
02:21 jojoa1997|Tablet i would do it but i just dont have the computer
02:25 jojoa1997|Tablet could you do that jordan4ibanez^
02:26 jordan4ibanez Probably not, sorry
02:26 jojoa1997|Tablet ok well bettime
02:26 jojoa1997|Tablet cya
02:34 kaeza jojoa has a gambling addiction
02:38 mauvebic lol
02:46 jordan4ibanez Oh I guess making a formspec isn't that hard lol http://i.imgur.com/i7IAccY.png
02:46 mauvebic its like mini css
02:48 jordan4ibanez but css is poop
02:49 mauvebic yes, yes it is
02:50 mauvebic between css and jquery, webdev is some boring shit these days lol
02:50 mauvebic all these platforms/langs and websites look more generic than ever lol
02:55 jordan4ibanez how do I set text for a formspec?
02:55 mauvebic labels
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02:56 jordan4ibanez Can you show me a small example?
02:56 jordan4ibanez oh
02:56 jordan4ibanez field[<X>,<Y>;<W>,<H>;<name>;<label>;<default>]
02:57 mauvebic not sure about W/H
02:57 mauvebic i dont think you need to supply those
02:57 mauvebic the label takes up as much space as it needs up to a certain char length
02:58 mauvebic its not field either
02:58 mauvebic i think : label[<X>,<Y>;<text>]
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02:58 mauvebic most of the mods use label so if i have it wrong it shouldn't be hard to find working example
02:59 jordan4ibanez label[<X>,<Y>;<label>]
02:59 jordan4ibanez got it, thank you
02:59 mauvebic no prob
03:00 jordan4ibanez all these things use different numbers and don't seem to follow +x ,+y from the top left corner, it's kind of weird
03:00 mauvebic x y is the grid position as if everything were inventory squares
03:00 mauvebic starting from top left
03:01 jordan4ibanez can I use 3.5 and such
03:01 mauvebic inventory squares can have their own labels, but theyre sortof overlayed on the square which IMO i think is ugly lol so i put labels next to/ontop of it
03:01 mauvebic yeah you can use decimals
03:01 mauvebic though, 3 = center of 3rd square
03:02 mauvebic 3.5 = would be the start of the 4th square
03:02 jordan4ibanez Oh nice, time to get my ocd on!
03:03 mauvebic i am too, learning the ropes of BS lol
03:04 mauvebic blockscape not bullshit lol
03:04 mauvebic i dunno why they all refer to it like that lol
03:04 mauvebic must not mean the same thing in Germany lol
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03:05 jordan4ibanez obsessive compulsive disorder, I find myself stuck in a loop for maybe an hour sometimes adjusting a mods text, it's weird
03:05 jordan4ibanez lol test, a mods anything basically
03:05 mauvebic well ocd is basically the reason i need a game with very high detail lol
03:06 jordan4ibanez Ahh okay
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03:10 MissValeska Hey
03:10 MissValeska Um, I need help
03:10 MissValeska I need Minetest on a Power PC Mac 10.5
03:10 mauvebic good luck, mac builds aren't updated often
03:10 mauvebic for lack of users
03:11 jordan4ibanez a power pc?
03:11 jordan4ibanez Wat
03:11 VanessaE I didn't know Mac still used PPC.
03:11 VanessaE I thought everyone moved to x86 architecture already
03:12 jordan4ibanez My old ppc is down in my basement, I gave up on it after minetest wouldn't compile because I was too lazy to compile irrlicht lol
03:12 MissValeska Well, Some haven't
03:12 MissValeska He has a PowerMac G5
03:12 VanessaE ah
03:13 jordan4ibanez what os is running on the ppc?
03:13 VanessaE afraid you'll have to run it in a win or linux virtual machine.
03:13 VanessaE 10.5 = OSX
03:13 jordan4ibanez GOOD LUCK!
03:13 jordan4ibanez I couldn't get it to work on linux ppc
03:13 jordan4ibanez although that irrlicht on linux thing is up for grabs
03:15 MissValeska OSX
03:15 MissValeska I can't get linux on it
03:15 jordan4ibanez yes you can lol
03:15 MissValeska When ever I try, The graphics doesn't work
03:15 jordan4ibanez I don't recommend it for inexperienced users at all though
03:15 MissValeska I have to go into the command line, But I don't know what to do on an Ubuntu live cd from the command line
03:15 jordan4ibanez the main issue is the radeon graphics
03:16 jordan4ibanez Maybe you should just pick up a 200dollar pc from a local shop?
03:16 VanessaE MissValeska: when was the last time you tried it?
03:16 kaeza just great piece of advice http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85764#p85764
03:16 MissValeska I tried a few days ago
03:17 VanessaE MissValeska: you used the mac-specific CD?
03:17 VanessaE http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-powerpc.iso
03:17 Exio uh?
03:17 Exio powerpc and OSX?
03:18 Exio seems legit :P
03:18 VanessaE if you can boot from that CD and play around a bit (it will be DOG SLOW), you should be able to install it and use it "for real"
03:18 MissValeska yes I did
03:18 MissValeska but, The Graphics had problems
03:18 VanessaE "OS X originally ran on PowerPC-based Macs. In 2006, the first Intel Macs had a specialized version of 10.4 "Tiger". In 2007, 10.5 "Leopard" was the first to run on both PowerPC and Intel Macs with the use of Universal Binaries. 10.6 "Snow Leopard" was the first version of OS X to drop support for PowerPC Macs."
03:18 MissValeska I was able to get into the command line
03:18 VanessaE Exio: so, yeah.
03:19 MissValeska However, I do not know what to do at that point.
03:19 MissValeska I do not know how to install it from the command line
03:19 VanessaE MissValeska: oh ok
03:19 MissValeska or fix the graphics
03:19 jordan4ibanez get a new computer lol
03:19 MissValeska If you can help me, I would greatly appreciate it, I've done a lot of googling, At this point, I don't really know what to do.
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03:19 VanessaE MissValeska: I wish I could help but I'm out of my element here (I only know Linux)
03:20 MissValeska *hugs* Okay
03:20 MissValeska Hmmm
03:20 Exio MissValeska: what gpu?
03:20 MissValeska Well, What about helping me get Linux on his machine?
03:20 MissValeska Uhhh
03:20 MissValeska Lemmie check
03:20 jordan4ibanez I was almost able to get minetest to run on ppc, but getting linux running on ppc is an adventure which should not be taken
03:20 MissValeska I'm on teamviewer with him right now
03:20 Exio hm
03:20 VanessaE MissValeska: I mean I don't know the specific combination of hardware + OS you're trying to establish
03:20 Exio sorry, but i need to go to sleep
03:21 Exio i have school in 5 hours :)
03:21 MissValeska Kay, Goodnight!
03:21 VanessaE Exio: Radeon 9600
03:21 Exio VanessaE: stab me
03:21 MissValeska I'm checking
03:21 VanessaE no wait, that's only on dual-core models
03:21 VanessaE else it has an nVidia GF5200
03:21 MissValeska Wait
03:22 MissValeska GeForce FX 5200
03:22 VanessaE strange, that should have worked practically out of the box.
03:22 MissValeska That is what his compuyter just told me
03:22 MissValeska Like, The computer itself worked, The Ubuntu live cd ran fine
03:22 MissValeska Just, Teh Graphics didn't
03:22 VanessaE right
03:22 MissValeska I was able to drop to command line without a problem
03:22 kaeza VanessaE, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85770#p85770
03:22 VanessaE you could even get VESA graphics?
03:22 MissValeska So, From command line, Can I install Ubuntu? And then download some driver that fixes the graphics?
03:22 MissValeska VESA?
03:23 VanessaE kaeza: dealt.
03:23 Exio well, unity and vesa
03:23 kaeza thanks :)
03:23 Exio MissValeska: did you try other distros or, at least, other DE?
03:23 VanessaE MissValeska: the standard graphics mode nearly all cards can run in, used as a sort of fallback mode if card-specific drivers can't be used.
03:24 MissValeska Hmm
03:24 MissValeska I don't know how to run the standard graphics mode
03:24 MissValeska We didn't try any other distros, He has a limited number of blank CDs
03:24 VanessaE MissValeska:  you could try installing it and then  `sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop`  and pray it works
03:24 Exio VanessaE: i'm not sure how the "software-accelerated" llvmpipe or w/e it is would work on a ppc for things like unity or fancy things
03:24 kaeza another one: http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&amp;user_id=5234
03:24 MissValeska Wait
03:24 VanessaE Exio: hence the xubuntu-desktop suggestion, which doesn't need fancy accel
03:25 Exio i'd not do that, instead i'd try to install directly debian
03:25 MissValeska How do you install Linux from a Live CD in the command line?
03:25 Exio does ubuntu have support for ppc?
03:25 MissValeska Yes
03:25 Exio (i mean, real support)
03:25 VanessaE but you will not get decent performance out of Minetest without it
03:25 VanessaE MissValeska: you'd have to use the so-called "Alternate install" CD, but I don't think it supports PPC.
03:26 MissValeska Hmm
03:26 Exio - debian
03:26 VanessaE kaeza: got it, and another I just spotted.
03:26 MissValeska hmm
03:27 VanessaE MissValeska: 32 or 64 bit?
03:27 MissValeska Uhh
03:27 MissValeska Lemmie see
03:27 kaeza fuck: http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=5235
03:28 kaeza err... http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85759#p85759
03:28 khonkhortisan ...found through view all name's posts
03:28 VanessaE kaeza: gone.
03:28 kaeza ah that was the one
03:28 MissValeska He has a model 7,3 Power Mac G5
03:28 Exio https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Shouldn.27t_it_just_work_out_the_box_nowadays.3F
03:28 kaeza 3 in one night?
03:29 VanessaE looks like it's 32 bit.
03:29 VanessaE MissValeska: try booting with this CD:  http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/precise/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/mini.iso
03:29 Exio You now have to use KMS with the radeon xorg driver. If you don't you'll fallback into 8 bit pseudo colour with the fbdev driver (see bug). The 8 bit depth will stop ubiquity (the live/desktop installer) working (bug).
03:30 Exio well, not radeon
03:30 Exio but other issues too
03:30 Exio Nouveau Xorg driver not starting
03:30 Exio See bug. If you have this problem then to use the live CD you will have to create a basic xorg.conf or use the legacy framebuffers rivafb or nvidiafb.
03:30 VanessaE Exio: so we gotta get her going with Xubuntu or Lubuntu or something, then
03:30 Exio https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/+bug/1061790
03:30 VanessaE fuck Unity up the ass with a long, rusty pole.
03:31 Exio VanessaE: nouveau will not start anyway, for what i can see
03:31 Exio https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/+bug/1061790
03:31 Exio misbehaving X on quantal ppc w/ nvidia geforce fx go5200
03:31 VanessaE damn
03:31 VanessaE nono not quantal
03:31 VanessaE precise
03:32 MissValeska Hmm
03:32 Exio iMac G4 700/800 or other nVidia users
03:32 Exio Instructions on how to use the old 'nv' driver can be found here.
03:32 Exio then
03:32 MissValeska This file is only 28 megabytes
03:32 VanessaE MissValeska: yep.
03:32 MissValeska How is that possible?
03:32 VanessaE that's fine, it's a minimal ISO
03:32 Exio it downloads all the stuff
03:32 VanessaE DOWNLOAD ALL THE PACKAGES!!!
03:32 MissValeska Hmmm
03:32 VanessaE :D
03:32 MissValeska kay
03:32 MissValeska So um
03:32 MissValeska Can I put it on a USB drive?
03:32 MissValeska he has one
03:32 VanessaE MissValeska: burn it like you would a regular ISO and boot from it
03:33 MissValeska I tried looking into that, But I couldn't figure out how to make itr work
03:33 MissValeska Well, Okay
03:33 MissValeska I'm just worried abotu wasting his cds
03:33 MissValeska Especially on such a small file
03:33 VanessaE CDs are cheap ;)
03:33 MissValeska I'd prefer to use the USB drive if possible
03:33 MissValeska yeah
03:33 Exio meh
03:33 MissValeska I guess it's just the utilitarian in me
03:33 VanessaE you could TRY burning it to a thumb drive
03:33 MissValeska How would I go about doing that?
03:33 Exio i just wasted my time trying to post links what can be useful, for what i can see
03:33 VanessaE not sure, if this were linux I would say to use dd
03:34 VanessaE dd if=/path/to/mini.iso  of=/dev/sdX  where X is your thumb drive.
03:34 MissValeska *nods*
03:34 VanessaE except, OSX is BSD...so that might still work
03:34 Exio did you try "nouveau.modeset=0"" ?
03:34 MissValeska Lemmie see about that
03:34 VanessaE got a command line handy?
03:34 MissValeska I don't think so
03:34 MissValeska He isn't in it right now
03:34 VanessaE shit.
03:34 MissValeska he is in OSX
03:35 Exio k
03:35 VanessaE MissValeska: you have a good backup solution available?  And install media to get you back to OSX if this doesn't work out?
03:36 MissValeska yeah
03:36 MissValeska But
03:36 VanessaE ..but...
03:36 MissValeska His OSX partition has data we cannot lose
03:36 VanessaE hrm
03:36 VanessaE then don't do it.
03:36 MissValeska Every time i try to partition it from OSX, it fails
03:36 MissValeska Well, I don't think we will lose data
03:36 VanessaE get yourself an inexpensive intel/amd PC or laptop
03:37 VanessaE it isn't worth trying to shoehorn this into a PPC box.
03:37 MissValeska We are planning on that
03:37 VanessaE now right now anyway
03:37 VanessaE not*
03:37 MissValeska yesh
03:38 khonkhortisan I can never decide whether to press esc-:q or ctrl+s
03:39 kaeza idea: let's use vim-like commands in minetest
03:39 kaeza instead of clicking, you would type ":dig" :D
03:41 kaeza http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/012/367/evilest.gif
03:41 VanessaE kaeza: die in a fire :)
03:41 VanessaE jk
03:42 kaeza I removed "fire" mod :D
03:43 kaeza kahrl just gave me an idea on #-dev
03:43 VanessaE uh oh.
03:43 khonkhortisan I made a treehouse by placing wood where it wasn't even, putting fence around the top, then using stairs to even the top out. That's a lot of work for something completely flammable
03:43 VanessaE when kaeza gets an idea, watch out! :)
03:43 kaeza I'll make a "Navi" friendly NPC
03:44 khonkhortisan Now why didn't I remember what navi meant when I've seen the movie?
03:44 VanessaE Na'vi you mean.
03:44 kaeza nope, Navi
03:44 kaeza from The Legend of Zelda
03:45 VanessaE HAH!
03:45 VanessaE I called that wrong :)
03:45 khonkhortisan Then I'm two down
03:45 VanessaE I was about to ask how a Na'vi could be friendly when there's actually not all that much of such attitudes displayed in the movie :)
03:45 kaeza she will yell "HEY! LISTEN!" when you use a tool
03:45 kaeza >:3
03:46 MissValeska How do I find the path to the USB drive?
03:46 MissValeska It says disk3s1 in disk utility
03:46 kaeza /media/something
03:47 VanessaE probably /dev/disk3s1 then
03:47 VanessaE keshe needs the raw device name
03:47 VanessaE kaeza &
03:47 kaeza ah
03:47 * khonkhortisan is trying to make y-rotated particles.
03:47 kaeza or maybe /dev/sdc1
03:48 VanessaE kaeza: not on BSD/OSX I don't think
03:48 khonkhortisan All I'm doing so far is spewing the words vertical, bool vertical, and writeU8(os, vertical); everywhere
03:51 jordan4ibanez http://poll.pollcode.com/ei4xn
03:51 jordan4ibanez pwease vote pwease
03:51 khonkhortisan I voted Butter. What's a graveyard, and why anvils?
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03:53 jordan4ibanez A graveyard, a yard with graves, and idk to make graves with anvils lol
03:54 jordan4ibanez this poll isn't very informative
03:55 jojoa1997|Tablet Oh yeah I got two votes on my side
03:55 jojoa1997|Tablet BUDDER
03:55 jojoa1997|Tablet Jordan check out real test. That has anvils
03:55 khonkhortisan The answer makes as much sense as the quesion. Are anvils cheap gravestones?
03:57 khonkhortisan Um, how do I add mods to a minimal world?
03:57 jojoa1997|Tablet What os
03:57 khonkhortisan opensuse linux, the Configure button on the world
03:58 khonkhortisan none of my mods show up for that world
03:58 khonkhortisan But ones that use minetest_game let me configure mods
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04:01 jordan4ibanez khon: no I was going to make a small blacksmith shop next to the gravesite
04:08 kaeza this would be nice https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/560#issuecomment-16753212
04:12 khonkhortisan v3f p_pos = m_pos*BS; ...7 lines later... m_pos = p_pos/BS;
04:12 VanessaE bbiab.
04:13 kaeza lol http://cheezburger.com/7360333824
04:13 khonkhortisan no way
04:14 khonkhortisan Must be that bing is used by windows users, which develops phrases from the same.
04:17 khonkhortisan I should make a poll.
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04:25 khonkhortisan Here's a poll on y-locked particles, just for fun http://poll.pollcode.com/1ob2t
04:30 jojoa1997|Tablet Where is the BUDDER! option
04:32 khonkhortisan the second and third-to last are close
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04:37 jojoa1997|Tablet Kaeza ping
04:37 kaeza polo
04:37 jojoa1997|Tablet Marko pong!
04:38 kaeza marco*
04:38 jojoa1997|Tablet Who wants to play some
04:38 jojoa1997|Tablet polo*
04:38 jojoa1997|Tablet Anyways
04:38 jojoa1997|Tablet Bug in nookex
04:38 jojoa1997|Tablet Line 31
04:38 jojoa1997|Tablet Make button_exit
04:38 kaeza edit and pull rq plz
04:38 jojoa1997|Tablet Uh no
04:39 jojoa1997|Tablet I can't
04:39 jojoa1997|Tablet But pages and backgrounds would be nice
04:40 kaeza ah I see the error
04:40 kaeza the dialog does not close
04:41 jojoa1997|Tablet That and
04:41 jojoa1997|Tablet ...
04:41 jojoa1997|Tablet And
04:42 kaeza ...and?
04:42 kaeza yes, the box looks ugly
04:43 jojoa1997|Tablet I am adding background
04:43 khonkhortisan polo!
04:43 jojoa1997|Tablet You will see in minitest
04:45 kaeza fixed box size and button on git
04:46 jojoa1997|Tablet What about allowing naming of books
04:47 kaeza wait... somebody removed webchat from ban list?
04:47 kaeza btw, chaiman==4aiman
04:49 jojoa1997|Tablet Kaeza this would allow for cool adventur e maos
04:49 jojoa1997|Tablet Maps
04:49 jojoa1997|Tablet Bit link please
04:49 jojoa1997|Tablet Git
04:50 kaeza wot
04:50 kaeza https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-kaeza_misc
04:56 khonkhortisan atan2 uses radians, rotateXZBy uses degrees. Pick a standard, people!
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05:08 jojoa1997|Tablet VanessaE it is
05:08 jojoa1997|Tablet Late go to bed
05:08 VanessaE there, now my PC is moved down to the floor where its remaining fan noise won't be blasting me in the ear. :)
05:08 VanessaE nice quiet room now
05:09 jojoa1997|Tablet GO TO BED
05:09 VanessaE no.
05:10 jojoa1997|Tablet and BTW I am in IB I don't know what sleep is
05:10 VanessaE IB?
05:11 jojoa1997|Tablet Higher level AP
05:11 VanessaE AP?
05:14 khonkhortisan REM?
05:17 ShadowNinja kaeza: webchat is no longer banned but it is quieted
05:18 jojoa1997|Tablet High leve
05:18 jojoa1997|Tablet Level academics
05:18 jojoa1997|Tablet https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/lfvd1bsod3mnppn/MiniTest_dev_1_4.zip?token_hash=AAHSmD6SYuINusWYbSrvKVIeB3iaZUZQfIs1DwxzCmeYDg&amp;dl=1
05:18 kaeza Half Life?
05:19 jojoa1997|Tablet No mi I test 1.4
05:19 jojoa1997|Tablet VanessaE try it out. Look at the redstone aka mesecons stuff
05:20 VanessaE a video will be sufficient.
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05:22 VanessaE evening webdesigner
05:23 jojoa1997|Tablet http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85782#p85782
05:23 jojoa1997|Tablet VanessaE I can't make a video
05:23 jojoa1997|Tablet Anyways got to get to bed cya
05:27 mauvebic surprisingly this took a long time to build lol https://sites.google.com/site/mauvebic/
05:40 jordan4ibanez kaeza want to try the anvil?
05:41 kaeza sure
05:42 kaeza but... what is it for if I may ask?
05:42 kaeza tool repair?
05:42 jordan4ibanez https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/Minetest-Black basically you put it down, right click it, put in damaged powertools on the left side of the hammer, and materials (right now only steelblock) on the right side, and then hit the anvil itself with a hammer and it will repair your powertools
05:43 jordan4ibanez err I mean left side of the hammer picture in the anvil gui
05:43 jordan4ibanez Yes it is
05:44 jordan4ibanez if you start a new game mode with latest, it'll give you all the materials you need
05:44 jordan4ibanez fool around with the powertools with right clicking and digging, they're quite cool
05:49 kaeza cool
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05:50 kaeza one question though
05:50 kaeza the spawn spawned on top of me, so I had to noclip out of it
05:50 kaeza is that normal?
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05:51 kaeza It's cool how the spawn auto-builds itself
05:51 jordan4ibanez Do you have luajit?
05:51 VanessaE morning [0gb_us]
05:51 [0gb_us] Morning, VanessaE.
05:51 kaeza not currently
05:51 khonkhortisan I have luajit
05:51 VanessaE kaeza: GET IT.
05:51 VanessaE :)
05:51 kaeza but just 5 secs to spawn the building
05:52 khonkhortisan Once cmake was able to find it on its own I haven't noticed it
05:52 [0gb_us] LuaJIT doesn't work with the stable version, right?
05:52 VanessaE no
05:52 VanessaE well
05:52 VanessaE not directly.
05:52 VanessaE (stable can be compiled against it, but it takes a small hack)
05:52 jordan4ibanez hmm, I don't know then, I haven't had any issues with the spawn building on me, but everyone else has, I don't understand the issue, and yes that is normal, it takes 15 seconds for the spawn to complete to reduce lag and stress
05:52 khonkhortisan compile, delete/move, relink
05:52 kaeza VanessaE, I have it; being too lazy to either install it properly or use your workaround
05:53 [0gb_us] Which is why I don't use it yet. I have LuaJIT installed, but Minetest doesn't talk to it.
05:53 VanessaE -stable should be renamed -old-and-crusty :D
05:53 VanessaE 0.4.6-old :-)
05:54 kaeza jordan4ibanez, the effects when you hit the anvil are awesome :D
05:54 [0gb_us] No. Dev is the in-progress version. Unless you're a developer, there's no reason to use it.
05:54 khonkhortisan LUA_INCLUDE_DIR=.../lib/luijit-2.0/src LUA_LIBRARY=.../lib/luajit-2.0/src/libluajit.a
05:54 jordan4ibanez good! :D
05:54 VanessaE [0gb_us]: trust me, there are reasons to use it :)
05:54 khonkhortisan Speed, to name one
05:54 VanessaE mmhmm
05:55 [0gb_us] It's not worth updating after every little change, VanessaE. What a pain! Plus, you force your users to update for each change, or suffer incompatibility issues.
05:55 VanessaE [0gb_us]: not anymore
05:55 VanessaE that hasn't been a big issue for a while now
05:55 * kaeza puts a dev version of minetest on [0gb_us]'s head
05:56 [0gb_us] Not any more? When I log into a dev server, it yells at me and says my client is incompatible.
05:56 * VanessaE dusts off nekogloop's kitten generator, turns it on, and points it at kaeza
05:56 VanessaE [0gb_us]: weird, it shouldn't do that.  Even mine does?
05:56 [0gb_us] I have dev Minetest, but I also have stable, which is what I usually use.
05:56 khonkhortisan I wish it would tell me both the client and server versions when it thinks they're not the same
05:56 [0gb_us] VanessaE: I'll check yours, I forget.
05:57 kaeza which reminds me...
05:58 kaeza I have to do something elsewhere
05:58 [0gb_us] VanessaE: Yep, even yours.
05:58 VanessaE what does it say then?
05:58 VanessaE I don't use other servers much so I never see that messgae
05:59 VanessaE message*
05:59 [0gb_us] It says something to the effect of: # WARNING: YOUR CLIENT MAY NOT BE FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH THIS SERVER.
06:00 [0gb_us] Including the pound sign.
06:00 [0gb_us] And the caps lock.
06:00 VanessaE weird.
06:01 [0gb_us] Last time I knew what that message was referring to, it meant users couldn't open locked chests without the dev version. A small incompatibility, but still an issue.
06:02 [0gb_us] That's obviously not the issue this time, but I don't know what is.
06:02 * VanessaE shrugs
06:03 VanessaE I run -dev to keep on top of bug fixes mostly
06:03 khonkhortisan I'm not touching lua hud until I see a mod I can steal code from
06:03 [0gb_us] Exactly. You're a devloper, so you use the development version.
06:03 VanessaE khonkhortisan: there are a few already
06:03 kaeza khonkhortisan, survival_modpack
06:03 VanessaE kaeza's hunger/survival one
06:03 kaeza or my stupid clock
06:04 khonkhortisan ok
06:05 [0gb_us] I started building a new game mode, but found I didn't have the required level of creativity to finish it. Some developer I am ....
06:07 [0gb_us] I love being able to mute single applications. I could never do that on my Mac.
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06:09 jordan4ibanez Goodnight peoples
06:09 [0gb_us] Good night.
06:09 VanessaE night
06:12 * [0gb_us] opens up one of his old Mario-like tile sets he made to try to find inspiration. It doesn't work.
06:13 VanessaE kaeza: server restart (updated to latest git)
06:13 VanessaE (0gb, :P  ;)  )
06:13 kaeza wut
06:13 VanessaE well, you *were* just standing there doing nothin ;)
06:13 kaeza now you are forcing me to join your server >:(
06:13 VanessaE you were already there :)
06:13 kaeza I was?
06:13 VanessaE mmhmm
06:13 kaeza oh yes lol
06:14 mauvebic lol
06:14 khonkhortisan kaeza will become self-aware eventually...
06:14 [0gb_us] Hmm. So many cool tiles, but so few that would work in Minetest .....
06:14 kaeza I just noticed you can't use the HUD API to create custom crosshairs yet
06:15 kaeza there's no way to specify that an image must be centered arount it's pos
06:15 kaeza ...or is it?
06:15 khonkhortisan get the width?
06:15 kaeza how?
06:15 khonkhortisan With a formspec, you'd define the width. I don't know how it's done in hud.
06:16 kaeza you can only set the position in the range 0-1
06:16 khonkhortisan pos = center - width/2
06:16 kaeza (where 0 is totally left/up, and 1 is totally right/down)
06:17 kaeza and how am I supposed to get the width of the image from Lua?
06:17 khonkhortisan imagemagick
06:17 kaeza lol
06:17 khonkhortisan You could hardcode it
06:17 kaeza again... how am I supposed to know the user's screen size?
06:18 kaeza what would look ok on 800p, would not on 1024p
06:19 kaeza <hmmm> hardcode?? what kind of shit is that??
06:19 khonkhortisan Keep complaining until you get the users' screen sizes.
06:19 kaeza j/k hmmmm
06:20 VanessaE ok, off to bed.
06:20 [0gb_us] Good night.
06:21 VanessaE night all
06:21 [0gb_us] Hmm. I found fish bones. THose could be useful, maybe.
06:22 kaeza night V
06:24 mauvebic is there fish?
06:24 [0gb_us] No, but I could add fish fossils using the bone image.
06:25 mauvebic not sure howit would look underwater, but you could always add fish :P
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06:25 [0gb_us] Meh. I suck at mobs. I'm just trying to put together enough nodes for a game.
06:26 [0gb_us] Mobs may come later.
06:26 [0gb_us] These old tiles just don't work well ... They're meant for 2D platformers ....
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06:28 mauvebic must have been madea  long time ago
06:28 [0gb_us] Yeah, I made these years ago.
06:30 mauvebic omg im nearly done with my staircase lol
06:32 kaeza http://cheezburger.com/7348655616
06:34 kaeza LOL https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7346252032/hABCF079E/
06:35 [0gb_us] I hate site you have to sign into Facebook to use ...
06:35 [0gb_us] Hmm. That's a lot of floppies.
06:35 kaeza you don't need facebook
06:36 [0gb_us] No, the Facebook comment was about a site I just went to, not the link you posted.
06:36 kaeza ah ok, sorry :P
06:36 [0gb_us] No worries.
06:36 kaeza but yeah, that sucjs if you are required to use fb
06:36 kaeza sucks*
06:37 kaeza rho sritched mg kegtops?
06:37 [0gb_us] I cannot parse that sentence.
06:37 mauvebic sucjs = javascript fellatio?
06:37 kaeza LOL
06:37 [0gb_us] !g fellatio
06:37 MinetestBot [0gb_us]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellatio
06:38 kaeza -.-
06:38 mauvebic you dont know what that means? lol
06:38 [0gb_us] Hmm. Not what I was expecting ...
06:38 mauvebic LOL
06:38 kaeza too young for the internetz
06:38 [0gb_us] No, I didn't know what it means.
06:38 kaeza teh*
06:38 [0gb_us] Though the image on that Wikipedia article makes it clear.
06:39 mauvebic reminds me of that episode in my family (bbc) where the dentist is looking up the competition and googles "oral contacts" and his face afterwards lol
06:39 kaeza or goatse
06:39 kaeza NEVAR google it
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07:06 Calinou mmmph, noone replied to more blocks thread since last night
07:08 [0gb_us] Sorry to hear that.
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07:12 Calinou why sorry? it's great, noone complained about it being so broken :D
07:12 VanessaE bah, no sleep for me yet.
07:12 VanessaE hi.
07:12 Calinou hi
07:12 kaeza hi
07:13 enchilado Hi Calinou
07:13 kaeza aaaaaaaaand COMBO BREAKER
07:14 * Calinou backstabs kaeza
07:14 * kaeza is a zombie
07:14 * kaeza is also bored
07:15 kaeza Vanessa's server takesa while to load
07:15 kaeza fuck my stupid 3G modem :<
07:15 Calinou ADSL ftw: 3.6/0.6 mbit
07:16 Calinou optic fiber: my ISP says "SOON."
07:16 VanessaE kaeza: it always does :-/
07:16 VanessaE especially if I've been updating mods
07:16 VanessaE Calinou: well you DID say not to update because it would surely break worlds :-)
07:17 Calinou at least there shouldn't be unknown nodes now
07:17 kaeza Calinou, ADSL here = SOON
07:17 kaeza at least for me :(
07:18 Leoneof running mintest 4.6 \o/
07:18 Leoneof minetest*
07:18 VanessaE Leoneof: no you aren't.  4.6 doesn't exist yet.
07:18 kaeza 0.4.6*
07:18 kaeza ninja'd
07:18 VanessaE HIYAH!
07:18 VanessaE :)
07:18 Leoneof lol
07:18 kaeza :P
07:18 Leoneof typo! 0.4.6
07:19 VanessaE Calinou: I'll wait until you have ABms in place that'll auto-convert all past and present stairsplus nodes :)
07:19 VanessaE (or a function I can call with mod-specific params to do the job)
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07:43 Leoneof 0.4.6 is slower than .04.5
07:43 Leoneof 0.4.5*
07:43 Leoneof 0.4.5 = ~55fps , 0.4.6 = ~25fps
07:46 kaeza http://cheezburger.com/7340687616
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07:49 VanessaE kaeza: o.O
07:49 tripod the candles melt, they fail.
07:49 tripod due to the bodyheat from dat colon
07:57 celeron55 that sounds like you have tried it
07:57 tripod you could say that celeron55
07:58 tripod but im not obliged to answer.
08:00 nyuszika7h oh god
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08:08 Zeg9 Hi
08:10 kaeza hey Zeg
08:20 VanessaE zzz
08:30 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_819733454.jpg :(
08:30 VanessaE ?
08:30 VanessaE oh
08:31 kaeza attempted to make a "telescopic scope"
08:32 kaeza (an "alignment" parameter for images would come in handy here
08:32 kaeza )
08:33 kaeza where should I put feature requests for this blue4u guy?
08:33 VanessaE dunno
08:33 kaeza (if I should request from him, that is)
08:35 kaeza hmm... I'll take a look at the src
08:37 Zeg9 Why not "proportional" positioning, like 0,0 is bottom left and 1,1 is top right of screen ?
08:37 Zeg9 For HUD api ^
08:37 kaeza ahem... isn't that what it does?
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08:37 Zeg9 Not really I think
08:37 kaeza except there's no alignment for stuff
08:38 Zeg9 Are the images scaled when you resize the window?
08:38 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
08:38 kaeza nope
08:38 Zeg9 Hi !
08:38 Zeg9 Well, then it isn't what it does :/
08:38 VanessaE morning PilzAdam
08:38 kaeza Zeg9, this is the code: http://pastebin.com/K97XNjs7
08:39 kaeza hello PilzAdam
08:39 Zeg9 Lol, I had 5 terminals open...
08:39 kaeza Zeg9, only the position is scaled
08:39 kaeza not the size
08:40 kaeza so 0.5 is the middle regardless of resolution
08:40 Zeg9 kaeza, probably related to this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/669
08:41 kaeza yep
08:50 kaeza ok, I think alignment for some items may be easy to add
08:50 kaeza I can use the 'number' field of images for alignment
08:50 kaeza or should I create a new 'alignment' item?
08:52 Zeg9 kaeza: I think you should first fix #669 and make hud proportional to window, that's only my opinion though
08:52 kaeza hmm... better use the 'direction' field. a bit more consistent with how it is used for "statbar" items
08:53 Zeg9 IMO a new alignment item is a good idea ;)
08:55 kaeza to tell the truth, hmmmm's comment on the pull discourages me from editing that
08:56 kaeza I think it IS a bug
08:57 kaeza and adding a new field would require changes in protocol right?
08:57 kaeza hrm, this discussion would be better in #-dev I guess
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08:59 kaeza anyway, gonna give it a try locally
09:00 kaeza no comment from the higher ups?
09:00 * VanessaE sees no higher-ups
09:00 VanessaE nobody here but us chickens :)
09:01 kaeza I just want to hear a 'go ahead' before wasting time on this :P
09:01 celeron55 what pull request are you talking about
09:01 kaeza but to tell the truth, it's just a small(ish) change
09:01 kaeza none yet
09:02 celeron55 11:57:07 < kaeza> to tell the truth, hmmmm's comment on the pull  discourages me from editing that
09:02 kaeza I just want to add alignment options for images
09:02 kaeza ah
09:02 celeron55 also, do you always lie when you don't explicitly say "to tell the truth"
09:02 kaeza #669
09:02 kaeza it's just an expression
09:03 VanessaE celeron55: western-english expression equivalent to "to put it bluntly, ..."
09:05 celeron55 it implies that truth is always boring!
09:05 VanessaE maybe to you, but not to a native English speaker :)
09:06 celeron55 kaeza: anyway, specifying the positioning point of images should be done
09:06 kaeza good then :)
09:06 celeron55 maybe set it as 0.0...1.0 of X and Y in the image?
09:07 celeron55 i'm not sure if "dir" should be used for that... it kind of means something else
09:07 kaeza hmm...
09:08 celeron55 you can also make scaling for images, but i'm not sure how to go about that either
09:08 celeron55 also, you can break the protocol to make it cleaner as it is so new still
09:09 kaeza driver->draw2DImage(texture, rect, core::rect<s32>(core::position2d<s32>(0,0), imgsize), NULL, colors, true);
09:09 kaeza I'll look at the Irrlicht docs to see what the args mean
09:10 kaeza maybe there's some scaling option in there
09:10 celeron55 it's either in that or it's some other parameter overload of that function
09:16 kaeza this kind of parameter overloading things is one of the things I despise of C++
09:16 kaeza btw, I think I found the correct routine
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09:17 * ShadowBot wakes up
09:18 Adarqet 0gb!!
09:19 Adarqet I accidentally vandalised your house
09:19 Adarqet the worthless one
09:19 kaeza I have another question; which should be the reference screen size?
09:19 kaeza 800x600?
09:20 kaeza or rather...nvm
09:21 kaeza I'll just add another 'align' param using floats as c55 suggested
09:22 kaeza I'll leave the scaling thing until hmmmm comments on this
09:23 [0gb_us] Vanished my worthless house? Which was worthless?
09:27 Adarqet I just placed gravel and sand above
09:27 Adarqet it
09:28 Adarqet I did not know it will fall
09:28 [0gb_us] Which house was worthless?
09:28 Adarqet The one in my country
09:28 Adarqet The oone I made
09:29 [0gb_us] That one doesn't seem worthless to me ...
09:29 Adarqet Well
09:29 Adarqet I did not know it will fall
09:29 [0gb_us] No worries.
09:30 [0gb_us] OH! Did you use /fill to create floating gravel?
09:30 Adarqet I'm making a new one with a bar
09:30 Adarqet yes
09:30 Adarqet 0gb
09:30 Adarqet Why?
09:30 [0gb_us] Ha ha ha. I made sure that command could never creat floating gravel. It always falls.
09:30 [0gb_us] *create
09:30 [0gb_us] WHy what?
09:31 celeron55 kaeza: scaling should probably be just so that 1.0 is full screen width and full height (maybe limited so that aspect ratio stays correct)
09:31 Adarqet the /save does not work on the server
09:32 [0gb_us] What is the error message?
09:32 kaeza I'm not planning to do scaling just yet; just alignment
09:32 celeron55 kaeza: and it should be settable on or off, so that if someone wants pixel-perfect images, they can get them
09:35 kaeza about align, whatvalue should I use?
09:35 kaeza I was thinking (0, 0) would mean centered
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09:35 kaeza -0.5 to the left/up, and 0.5 to the right/down
09:35 celeron55 no
09:36 * Adarqet
09:36 celeron55 either 0...1 or -1...1 (0 being center or 0.5 being center)
09:36 * Adarqet farts
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09:36 celeron55 (centers being the other way than i said)
09:36 kaeza ok
09:37 celeron55 i don't know which is better; 0...1 is more like the positioning
09:37 celeron55 maybe it's better because of that
09:37 kaeza yeah, -1..1 seems more natural
09:37 kaeza err
09:37 kaeza ok :)
09:37 celeron55 well
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09:37 celeron55 it kind of is
09:39 VanessaE I'm a little surprised you declined the +/- 0.5 idea.
09:39 celeron55 just do it like you prefer, you're the user of the API anyway
09:40 celeron55 even +-0.5
09:41 VanessaE (though if you were to use it, -0.5 should be *down*/left, not up/left)
09:41 celeron55 i just don't like it because generally values will be either at border or at center, and +-0.5 makes most values be 0.5 or -0.5 then
09:41 celeron55 which is unclean
09:41 PilzAdam anyone wanna comment on snow and ice? https://github.com/PilzAdam/common/commits/snow
09:41 VanessaE just the nodes?
09:41 celeron55 VanessaE: of course up, that's the way our 2D UI is positioned
09:42 VanessaE celeron55: fair enough.  I was just thinking of the coordinate system used in nodeboxes
09:42 VanessaE consistency, etc.
09:42 PilzAdam VanessaE, yes, they will be placed with mg v7
09:42 VanessaE PilzAdam: seems okay to me - you need aliases of course.
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09:43 PilzAdam the snow mod has much more content, so its reasonable to add the aliases there
09:43 VanessaE hmm..  maybe so, that's debatable.
09:43 PilzAdam noone can simply remove the snow mod on old maps
09:44 VanessaE true.
09:44 PilzAdam and on new maps, mg v7 will be used and that will place the new nodes
09:44 VanessaE ok, I'll buy that.
09:45 VanessaE guess SPlizard has a little work to do ;)
09:45 [0gb_us] I removed snow once. There were unknown nodes EVEYWHERE. The same happened when I removed conifers.
09:45 PilzAdam he needs to override default:snow, though
09:45 celeron55 i guess generally the superset should alias things (but there are many special cases to this)
09:45 PilzAdam [0gb_us], there are some mods that you shouldnt remove once you installed them on worlds
09:46 VanessaE [0gb_us]: moretrees has you covered in that regard, even if you turn off all new tree generation (nodes+aliases are always defined)
09:46 PilzAdam celeron55, I add aliases if people will remove the old mod
09:46 PilzAdam otherwise its up to the mod to convert their nodes to the new ones in default
09:46 celeron55 PilzAdam: yes, and people will remove the old mod if it ends up being a subset
09:46 celeron55 8)
09:47 * celeron55 dances the "i am right" dance
09:47 celeron55 (no)
09:47 celeron55 (there isn't a dance for that)
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09:48 PilzAdam http://youtu.be/zs38PDsMriI
09:48 PilzAdam there is
09:48 VanessaE lol
09:49 PilzAdam note: I have searched for "I am right dance celeron55" :D
09:49 VanessaE I could JUST SEE c55 gyrating around like that :D
09:49 [0gb_us] PilzAdam: I had to remove things because it was a "peoples' choice" world. People wanted other plugins, but without removing some, we were breaking the texture atlas.
09:49 kaeza lol I'll bookmark that one
09:50 VanessaE PilzAdam: my "it went better than expected!" dance is the Banana Splits theme :-)
09:50 celeron55 8D
09:50 VanessaE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81LQnWPVqSI
09:51 VanessaE (too bad the video quality is shit)
09:53 [0gb_us] Home decor really did a number on that world's texture atlas. I think I had to remove all non-default stuff AND some default stuff to fix the texture atlas.
09:53 VanessaE [0gb_us]: texture atlas is disabled by default now.
09:54 VanessaE as of 0.4.5 I thin, wasn't it?
09:54 VanessaE think*
09:54 [0gb_us] Yeah, but I no longer add a bunch of stuff.
09:55 [0gb_us] Basically, if it's not in common, I don't use it. Even if it's really cool, like poison ivy.
09:56 VanessaE that's too bad.  there's a lot of nice stuff out there.
09:56 kaeza now compiling new changes...
09:56 * kaeza crosses fingers
09:56 [0gb_us] My private world has a bunch of stuff though. From your stuff, I have all of plantlife, a modified moretrees, gloopblocks, and I think a couple others.
09:56 VanessaE kaeza: just get my build ;)
09:57 VanessaE what'd you have to mod in moretrees?
09:57 kaeza erhm... what
09:57 VanessaE kaeza: ok, maybe not, I don't even know what OS you're on, let alone what arch :)
09:58 [0gb_us] The trees only grow on dirt. I modified the regular trees and your trees to grow on everything like they used to. My tree farms are on gravel, not dirt, so ....
09:58 kaeza VanessaE, I meant trying my changes
09:58 kaeza aaaand KABOOOM
09:58 VanessaE kaeza: OH! :)
09:58 VanessaE [0gb_us]: ah right.
09:59 [0gb_us] Are the iron trees suposed to never drop aplings?
09:59 [0gb_us] *saplings
09:59 VanessaE dunno, been ages since I used those
09:59 kaeza good thing is it seems to compile OK
09:59 ShadowBot PilzAdam commited to Common: Add snow and ice (https://github.com/minetest/common/commit/f81affa)
10:00 [0gb_us] Snow and ice. Interesting. The other day I was working on ice, but I could never figure out the perlin noise thing, and eventually gave up.
10:01 Zeg9 Nice to have this in default mod :-)
10:02 [0gb_us] PilzAdam: You added nodes, but didn't add them to mapgen.
10:02 Zeg9 Hi [0gb_us]
10:02 [0gb_us] Hey,  Zeg9.
10:02 PilzAdam [0gb_us], yes, see above
10:03 [0gb_us] OH! Mapgen version seven preparation. Got it.
10:03 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/512px-realistic-textures/commit/ce2ec5aa73a26b45cd2d37d945280ac36ad194ab
10:03 VanessaE :D
10:03 [0gb_us] Might I make a suggestion for v7?
10:03 [0gb_us] Wait, never mind.
10:04 Calinou generate windows logos at +30912?
10:04 [0gb_us] NO.
10:04 Calinou :p
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10:04 Zeg9 [I may get snapped because I guess this isn't the first time someone asks] but why is there no coal block in default?
10:04 [0gb_us] If a Windows logo is generated, I WILL deface it.
10:04 Zeg9 Microsoft would complain for trademark problems :P
10:05 kaeza wow
10:05 [0gb_us] Coal block would be great. I was going to pull for one, but I can't draw a good texture ....
10:05 Zeg9 I just made one.
10:05 kaeza the_game() is a big pile of code
10:05 Zeg9 I'll try it soon and send screenshots
10:09 [0gb_us] I think I need two public worlds. Oddly, it would be less stressful than one. One main issue is that I want lawlessness, but people get mad at me when THEY fail to use land protection. They want me to ban people before their stuff is damaged instead of them being responsible for their own stuff. But if I have a lawless world and a lawful world, everyone wins.
10:09 [0gb_us] I need a faster connection, first.
10:09 Zeg9 0gb.us, I got same problem with protection on my server lol
10:10 [0gb_us] PilzAdam: Can you PLEASE move bones to common, even if you are refusing to move give_initial_stuff?
10:11 PilzAdam VanessaE, your desert sand texture hmmmm wanted me add is good, but the desert stone doesnt look good with it
10:11 VanessaE I thought about changing it, but he and I never settled that question.
10:11 * [0gb_us] paints the desert stone white
10:12 VanessaE lemme see if I can come up with something.  Give me 5 mins.
10:12 Calinou Zeg9: +1 for coal block, it should also be able to smelt like 9 coal lumps ;)
10:12 * [0gb_us] pretends to start the timer
10:13 Zeg9 Calinou, I'll look if I can do the fuel ability; just let me finish the texture before ;)
10:13 Zeg9 oh, he lefT.
10:13 Zeg9 oh, he left*.
10:14 [0gb_us] A coal smelts 13+1/3 things. Multiply that by nine, and you get more than a stack. Skip the fuel properties, it's inefficient to use coal blocks as fuel.
10:15 PilzAdam bbl
10:15 [0gb_us] Bye.
10:17 Zeg9 I'm not sure there should be a frame around the coal block texture
10:17 [0gb_us] Probably not.
10:18 Zeg9 http://ompldr.org/vaTZqbg
10:18 Zeg9 ^ Request for comments :P
10:19 [0gb_us] Hmm. I was thinking of something a lot darker, but your style does match the coal item better.
10:19 Zeg9 I was thinking of darker too, but it wasn't the same color as the coal item at all, looked weird
10:19 VanessaE PilzAdam:  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_826339125.png
10:20 [0gb_us] Not relevant, but what window manager is that?
10:20 [0gb_us] (To Zeg9.)
10:20 VanessaE xfce witha custom keramic....oh.
10:20 VanessaE PilzAdam: the actual texture file:  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/default_desert_stone.png
10:20 VanessaE (for when he gets back)
10:20 Zeg9 It's xfwm4, with Zukitwo style
10:20 [0gb_us] YOur image doesn't show your window, VanessaE.
10:21 VanessaE [0gb_us]: I was wondering there for a moment why you were asking, then saw the "to zeg" part :D
10:21 [0gb_us] I think I'm going to miss the bright desert stone, but that matches the new sand better.
10:22 Zeg9 is the new desert sand different from regular sand?
10:22 kaeza I'm now getting SIGSEGV :(
10:22 [0gb_us] New desert sand looks like old sand, new sand is lighter.
10:22 kaeza which switch do I use to enable debugging symbols?
10:22 [0gb_us] I don't know why.
10:23 Zeg9 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug
10:23 VanessaE Zeg9: the proposal is to replace desert sand with the existing sand texture (get rid of the orange), make a new regular sand texture that's a light variant of the old sand, and perhaps use that ^^^ desert stone.
10:23 Zeg9 IIRC
10:23 VanessaE lemme see if I can find a spot that shows all three
10:23 kaeza ah thanks Zeg9
10:23 [0gb_us] I would like to see the new sand compared to the old. Thanks, VanessaE!
10:24 Zeg9 I was going to ask the same :D
10:24 Zeg9 [0gb_us] here is a version without the frame: http://ompldr.org/vaTZqcA
10:24 [0gb_us] Seeing VanessaE's new sand is what all the cool cats are doing these days.
10:25 [0gb_us] Zeg9, I like that version better.
10:25 kaeza compiling again... this will take a while
10:25 Zeg9 Ok. I'll see what I can do for fuel, then pull request
10:25 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_826729753.png
10:26 [0gb_us] I would suggest skipping the fuel part, but that's up to you/
10:26 VanessaE had to dig some of the desert sand away to show the desert stone.
10:26 [0gb_us] Oh, wow. That stuff is WHITE.
10:26 VanessaE the new sand may be a bit too light
10:26 [0gb_us] I didn't mean it that way.
10:27 VanessaE lemme tone it down a little
10:27 [0gb_us] It's just a surprise.
10:27 [0gb_us] Can you get a shot of the white sand and water please?
10:27 VanessaE sure, gimme a sec.
10:27 [0gb_us] It might look good with the water. Pure, clean, white sand.
10:28 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_826870814.png
10:28 Zeg9 True that putting a 1m³ coal block in a 1m³ furnace would be a bit illogical... But well we can already use mese blocks as fuel iirc
10:28 [0gb_us] The issue is the burn time of coal blocks. They'd smelt MORE than a full stack of stuff.
10:29 [0gb_us] Also, we can smelt the mese blocks, but NOT the mese crystals, if I recall.
10:29 [0gb_us] Yeah, I like the sand better with water in veiw.
10:29 Zeg9 burntime = 360 <-- that would be a bit high. Think I'll remove this part
10:29 [0gb_us] *view
10:29 VanessaE there we go, got the sand to a bette rcolor
10:32 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_827080066.png
10:32 VanessaE perfect.
10:32 VanessaE (and this time, screenshot without shaders enabled)
10:32 [0gb_us] Yeah, that looks great.
10:32 Zeg9 +5
10:32 [0gb_us] WHy without?
10:33 * Zeg9 is cooking 117 items to see if the burntime is correct
10:33 [0gb_us] The burn time you listed was not right.
10:33 VanessaE there, uploaded the tweaked desert stone and regular sand.
10:33 [0gb_us] The burn time of coal is about 40.
10:34 Zeg9 Yep. 40*9=360
10:34 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/default_desert_sand.png
10:34 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/default_desert_stone.png
10:34 [0gb_us] Oh, what? My math is off then. My bad.
10:34 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/default_sand.png
10:34 Zeg9 Having a "calculator" key on his keyboard can be useful sometimes :D
10:34 [0gb_us] I don't know where I got my number .....
10:35 VanessaE PilzAdam: *ping*
10:35 [0gb_us] My operating system has a calculate, I should have used it.
10:35 * Zeg9 nearly cooked all his sand, yummy!
10:35 [0gb_us] *calculator
10:35 [0gb_us] Yum, sand?
10:35 [0gb_us] Hmm.
10:35 [0gb_us] You have an interesting diet.
10:36 Zeg9 :-)
10:36 VanessaE [0gb_us]: part of this complete breakfastâ„¢
10:36 [0gb_us] VanessaE: I guess ...
10:36 Zeg9 Back to be serious, the burntime is perfect
10:36 [0gb_us] Not part of any complete breakfast I'VE ever had.
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10:41 VanessaE zzz
10:41 [0gb_us] yyy
10:41 VanessaE because. because. because.
10:41 VanessaE :)
10:41 Zeg9 Here it is... https://github.com/minetest/common/pull/35
10:42 VanessaE Zeg9: what, you didn't make it give you 9 coal when dug? :)
10:42 kaeza lol forgot to initialize a field in the ClientEvent
10:42 Zeg9 Well, you can craft it back to 9 coal... But if this behavior is wanted, I may add it
10:43 VanessaE I was kidding :)
10:43 VanessaE (I didn't see the block->lumps recipe immediately in fact)
10:44 [0gb_us] Does it dig with a stone pick like stone_with_coal?
10:45 Zeg9 Yes, I need to check something though
10:45 [0gb_us] Okay, cool.
10:46 Zeg9 Yeah, it's a bit slower to break than stone with coal
10:46 Zeg9 Actually, as fast as stone with iron.
10:46 [0gb_us] That's fine. I just don't think it should take a stronger pick to do so.
10:46 [0gb_us] I'm not thrilled that stone picks no longer mine mese, either ....
10:47 Zeg9 Let me check that with this addition...
10:48 Zeg9 Apparently, you can not break it with a stone pick, but I can change this if you wish
10:48 [0gb_us] I'd really love it if you did, but it's up to you.
10:49 [0gb_us] It also doesn't make sense that coal would be harder in block form.
10:51 kaeza celeron55, align=0: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_828120402.jpg
10:51 Zeg9 I fixed it, guess I should squash the commit
10:51 PilzAdam VanessaE, pong
10:51 kaeza align=-1: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_828220183.jpg
10:51 [0gb_us] Thanks so much, Zeg9!
10:52 Zeg9 Wait, need to push it
10:52 Zeg9 Done
10:53 kaeza need to clean up some things
10:53 PilzAdam VanessaE, I just take the last 2 textures you posted here
10:53 PilzAdam VanessaE, Im also not very happy with the normal sand, its too bright
10:54 Zeg9 Wait, I didn't fix it actually -_-
10:54 VanessaE PilzAdam: I just toned it down in one of those last shots
10:54 VanessaE reload your sand texture from the website
10:55 Zeg9 [0gb_us] It is fixed now
10:55 [0gb_us] Thanks!
10:55 PilzAdam dont ask me why, but the new desert reminds me to caramel :-)
10:55 VanessaE heh
10:55 VanessaE better than the orange sherbet we had before :D
10:55 PilzAdam btw, good work!
10:55 VanessaE ty
10:56 PilzAdam I also added the sandstone_bricks
10:56 PilzAdam do you want desert_stone_bricks too?
10:56 VanessaE which one?
10:56 VanessaE desert stone bricks? mmmm, I'm betwixt and between on that
10:56 PilzAdam that one: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/default_sandstone2.png
10:56 Zeg9 sandstone bricks? interesting
10:57 VanessaE ah, the 2x1 texture, good.
10:57 VanessaE (hmmmm liked that one also)
10:57 VanessaE er 1x2
10:57 PilzAdam you currently cant to anything with desert stone, except making stone tools
10:57 [0gb_us] With the deserts changed, we need new red and orange nodes. Wool, perhaps? https://github.com/minetest/common/pull/28
10:57 VanessaE PilzAdam: there's a mod that adds some use of desert stone
10:57 VanessaE bricks, furnaces, one or two other things
10:58 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3761
10:58 VanessaE that one
10:58 PilzAdam [0gb_us], flowers will be added with mg v7
10:58 VanessaE not sure if that mod is still useful though
10:58 PilzAdam it isnt, since the stone tools use group:stone
10:58 VanessaE right
10:59 VanessaE ok, so just the desert stone bricks
10:59 PilzAdam and Id like to keep it like this
10:59 [0gb_us] Will the flowers respawn?
10:59 kaeza do I need to increase any PROTOCOL_VERSION stuff?
10:59 PilzAdam should I take the textures from the mod or do you want to create textures, VanessaE?
10:59 VanessaE PilzAdam: well it's just one texture for the desert stone brick, I can turn something out real quick
11:00 PilzAdam kaeza, what have you changed?
11:00 kaeza added "alignment" param to HUD items
11:00 kaeza see the screenshots I posted
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11:00 PilzAdam can I see the diff somewhere?
11:01 kaeza gimme a sec
11:01 kaeza I'm finishing docs and I'll push to my fork
11:02 VanessaE PilzAdam: try this on for size:  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/default_desert_stone_brick.png
11:02 PilzAdam the win build will be called "sandy update" :-)
11:03 * Calinou solders the IHS on the win build
11:03 Calinou call it "ivy update" now
11:03 kaeza PilzAdam, https://github.com/kaeza/minetest/commit/3037ce6e7205926223b58fe48d36d48fd9687647
11:04 PilzAdam kaeza, Im not familiar with the HUD sending, but it seems like you have to increase the protocl version
11:04 kaeza okz
11:05 Calinou for what, PilzAdam?
11:05 Calinou nevermind
11:05 PilzAdam kaeza, although, Im not sure
11:05 PilzAdam ask hmmmm
11:05 Calinou what would be the uses of HUD alignment? we can already do new bars
11:05 kaeza celeron55 said it should be no problem since the HUD API is still in development
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11:07 kaeza I think I'll increase it just in case
11:07 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam you there?
11:07 kaeza any more comments on this?
11:07 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, yes
11:07 jojoa1997|Tablet check your forum pm
11:08 * [0gb_us] checks PilzAdam's forum PMs
11:08 [0gb_us] Drats, he changed his password.
11:08 celeron55 kaeza: don't increase it unless you do actual handling for the old version or disable interaction of old clients
11:08 celeron55 kaeza: otherwise there is no sense whatsoever
11:09 celeron55 the latter is out of the question, the former is unnecessary
11:09 kaeza ok then, I'll leave it as-is then :)
11:09 celeron55 it's a development version, compatibility with a previous development version is our least concern
11:09 celeron55 otherwise we can't do any progress
11:09 celeron55 those who use development versions are aware that they can break
11:09 kaeza is the commit good?
11:10 kaeza any other thing needed?
11:10 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam did you do it?
11:10 PilzAdam no, Ill check it later
11:10 PilzAdam I actually have things to do
11:10 kaeza hmm... I think I can do text and perhaps inventory align
11:10 jojoa1997|Tablet ok
11:11 celeron55 kaeza: it seems good, but if you didn't do it for others than images, you should consider that
11:13 kaeza oh crap... just spotted something...
11:13 kaeza this won't work as-is with scaled images
11:13 kaeza lemme fix that
11:14 PilzAdam VanessaE, license is WTFPL?
11:14 VanessaE PilzAdam: yep
11:14 VanessaE whatever fits with the defaults (probably CC-By-SA 3.0)
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11:14 celeron55 upstream has a lot of WTFPL stuff; we preserve WTFPL when we can
11:15 VanessaE WTFPL it is, then. :)
11:15 celeron55 (which means basically in everything except C++ code, because that would be too much hassle)
11:17 PilzAdam VanessaE, https://github.com/PilzAdam/common/commit/215a7bc25b3c9c066c2bb87ea18c2636c9f2df59
11:18 VanessaE mm...sandstone brick recipe should yield 4
11:18 VanessaE ditto for desert stone brick
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11:20 VanessaE (of course, default:stonebrick is 4:1 instead of 4:4, so I dunno)
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11:20 PilzAdam bricks are expensive
11:20 VanessaE indeed :)
11:21 VanessaE ok, 4:1 then
11:21 PilzAdam hmm
11:21 VanessaE this looks good.
11:21 VanessaE hm?
11:21 PilzAdam I think bricks should be cracky=2
11:21 PilzAdam and sandstone cracky=3 then
11:21 VanessaE I'll defer to you on that, I'm not familiar with how digging groups wor.
11:21 VanessaE work*
11:22 PilzAdam bricks should be a tougher if they are that expensive
11:22 PilzAdam -a
11:22 VanessaE yes.
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11:25 PilzAdam sandstone is actually pretty interesting since its cracky=3 and crumbly=2
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11:31 ShadowBot PilzAdam commited to Common: Add sandstone and desert stone bricks, change textures of sand, desert sand, desert stone (https://github.com/minetest/common/commit/8e9017e)
11:33 Calinou +1 for sandstone brick
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11:39 Zeg9 PilzAdam, any comment about that ? https://github.com/minetest/common/pull/35
11:39 PilzAdam 2 questions come to my mind: "Why?" and "Why not?"
11:41 Zeg9 Why? Allows more compact storage, also all ores have their respective blocks except coal; Why not ? Well, I don't know.
11:41 PilzAdam I generally dont dislike this idea
11:42 PilzAdam but I think the burntime should be either a bit longer or a bit shorter
11:42 PilzAdam longer because you have to do more work to craft the blocks
11:42 PilzAdam *nodes
11:42 PilzAdam shorter because its more logical that little pieces of coal burn better
11:43 PilzAdam but maybe Im just wrong with these thoughts :-)
11:43 PilzAdam what do others think?
11:44 VanessaE smaller pieces almost universally burn better - but they burn much hotter
11:44 VanessaE and so they get used up faster than an equivalent mass in large pieces.
11:45 PilzAdam yea, but "burntime" in MT is heat + RL burntime
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11:46 VanessaE and....HDX updated to cover sandstone and desert stone bricks.
11:47 Calinou already, VanessaE? O_o
11:47 VanessaE yup.
11:47 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/512px-realistic-textures/commit/b40553c9ad176138f1c652a76ffb9c3a14ec83ca
11:47 PilzAdam Calinou, she updated to snow before it was upstream
11:48 VanessaE I'm not entirely happy with the current stone textures I'm using, but they're way better than what I had some days ago.
11:48 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_831631201.jpg >:D
11:49 kaeza of*
11:49 VanessaE hm, sandstone brick ain't right.
11:49 * VanessaE redoes it.
11:49 Zeg9 kaeza, really useful, if someone annoys you on a server, display him a stupid message like that :D
11:50 PilzAdam Zeg9, as a compromise between these two points, one could say make it 9 times the burntime of coal :-)
11:51 * kaeza just had an idea
11:51 Zeg9 Alright
11:51 kaeza well, maybe later: code the anchor position
11:52 PilzAdam Zeg9, although I like the idea of having some little "protip", e.g. tree burns a little bit longer than 4 wood
11:52 Zeg9 That's a good idea.
11:52 PilzAdam one junglegrass longer, to be precise :D
11:53 PilzAdam (or 2 leaves)
11:53 PilzAdam (or 2/15 cactus)
11:53 PilzAdam Zeg9, I would say, make it 1% longer than 9 coal lumps
11:53 Zeg9 Would a burntime of 400 be ok?
11:54 PilzAdam nah, too much
11:54 PilzAdam make it 370
11:54 Zeg9 Ok
11:55 Zeg9 Should I ammend or commit again?
11:55 PilzAdam actually I can do this when merging
11:55 celeron55 that makes it kind of insignificant but the perfectionist can tweak around when they want :P something for everybody
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11:55 [0gb_us] GAH! I've been unable to log in ...
11:55 PilzAdam celeron55, thats exactly what I wanted to achieve
11:55 [0gb_us] My client has, anyway.
11:56 [0gb_us] And apparently VanessaE muted the web chat, so I couldn't even get in through that ....
11:56 VanessaE yup, webchat is muted for now.
11:57 [0gb_us] Not very helpful when my client is on the fritz. I guess there were spammers using that or something?
11:57 PilzAdam Zeg9, whats the texture license?
11:57 Zeg9 WTFPL
11:58 Zeg9 ...or whatever you want ;)
11:58 PilzAdam have you created it?
11:59 Zeg9 Well, in fact it's based on the default_coal_lump.png
12:01 celeron55 i wonder if the default lump still is the one drawn by me
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12:02 Zeg9 Nop, IIRC it is by GloopMaster
12:02 celeron55 that's not documented anywhere and it wasn't listed explicitly as WTFPL at that time so that means it's CC BY-SA... and i guess your block still counts as derivative work
12:03 celeron55 altough it still is just a few random-ish pixels 8)
12:04 Zeg9 Yes. So let's make it CC BY-SA. The lump and ingot textures have been added from here https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/cd604fa9c864160a6276b7fcf483a157ae339611
12:04 Zeg9 PilzAdam: should I add the 370 burntime or you are going to do it?
12:05 * sfan5 once wrote a mod for coal blocks
12:08 * Zeg9 is having a look at sfan5's coal mdo
12:08 * Zeg9 is having a look at sfan5's coal mod*
12:08 sfan5 its ba
12:08 sfan5 *bad
12:08 sfan5 it was my first od
12:08 sfan5 *mod
12:09 kaeza typos, typos everywhere
12:09 Zeg9 I see Calinou already wanted to have this in official game :D
12:12 celeron55 ba od
12:13 kaeza what do you think of adding an 'offset' parameter to Lua HUD that is a pixel offset after scaling and aligning?
12:13 kaeza that could allow some nicely positioned items at the edges for example
12:14 sfan5 it feels like the "problem" with the core dev team is discussed in every topic
12:14 celeron55 sfan5: i suggest just ignoring those, they'll eventually realize there is no actual problem
12:15 celeron55 just post some other stuff instead of worrying
12:15 sfan5 yeah
12:16 celeron55 kaeza: that would be not needed for stuff scaled in relation to screen size
12:16 VanessaE there, now the sandstone+sandstine bricks look right.
12:17 celeron55 kaeza: dunno, i guess people might end up needing it
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12:17 kaeza celeron55, think about this: { pos={1,1},align={-1,-1},offset={-8,-8}}
12:18 celeron55 kaeza: i think i can say that it's acceptable too
12:18 celeron55 do it in a different commit though
12:18 kaeza that would make the item go 8 pixels from the bottom-left corner regardless of res
12:18 celeron55 i know the uses for it
12:20 kaeza okz, I didn't meant it to be in the same commit :)
12:22 ImQ009 Oh cool
12:22 ImQ009 They fixed recycling plant
12:22 ImQ009 That one was kinda annoying
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12:23 bas080 swamp trees https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2004222013%20-%2002%3A16%3A24%20PM.png
12:24 bas080 and palmtrees https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2004222013%20-%2002%3A20%3A41%20PM.png
12:24 ImQ009 Oh cool, wrong window!
12:24 ImQ009 lol
12:25 Zeg9 bas080: what mod is this from?
12:25 bas080 I have not released it yet
12:26 bas080 It will be added to my jungletree mod which will be called bigger trees.
12:27 MinetestBot GIT: Zeg9 commited to minetest/common: Add coal block e0f5a6fd69 2013-04-22T05:25:33-07:00 http://git.io/D46_Rg
12:28 PilzAdam that burns _really_ long
12:28 [0gb_us] Yeah. That's why I suggested not giving it a burn time at all.
12:29 [0gb_us] It smelts more than a full stack in one go.
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12:37 PilzAdam one coal block can cook 123 iron lumps
12:38 [0gb_us] Exactly my point.
12:38 PilzAdam why is that bad?
12:38 [0gb_us] Not that I have a strong opinion, it's just that you can't fit that much iron or sand or whatever in the furnace at once.
12:39 jojoa1997|Tablet Yeah you can
12:39 jojoa1997|Tablet You refill
12:39 [0gb_us] Now if the furnace held two stacks as input, it would make more sense to have such huge fuels.
12:39 PilzAdam if you want that little bit longer burntime of compressed coal, then you have to work a bit more and refill the furnace
12:40 [0gb_us] jojoa1997|Tablet: You can refill the fuel when you refill the input.
12:40 [0gb_us] Like I said, I don't really care, I just don't think it makes sense.
12:41 [0gb_us] It's not like I ever burn coal anyway. ☺
12:41 Kacey i miss mese being a fuel
12:41 [0gb_us] Mese blocks are still fuel, right?
12:42 Kacey idk
12:42 Kacey wish fragments were fuel though, to give them use
12:43 PilzAdam [0gb_us], no
12:43 [0gb_us] No? My bad then.
12:46 PilzAdam changelog updated
12:51 VanessaE and...coal block added to HDX.
12:53 kaeza small prob: I cannot do align stuff with statbars because I don't know the "max size"
12:53 kaeza should I assume 10 items?
12:53 * Kacey wants mese fragments to be fuel
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12:54 * [0gb_us] wants bones in common
12:54 kaeza I mean, 10 "full" textures?
12:54 VanessaE I think that's a fair assumption
12:56 kaeza I guess I shoult note that in the docs also
12:56 kaeza -t+d
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13:01 KikaRz Happy Birthday to me!!! Happy Birthday to me.... Happy Birthday Kika and Juan...
13:01 KikaRz Happy birthday to us!
13:01 KikaRz :)
13:02 sfan5 and...coal block added to EasyCraft
13:05 Zeg9 Can anyone give me the link to the branch which allows disabling fire?
13:05 kaeza sheeeeeeet
13:05 kaeza change one line in a header, recompile *all* the source??
13:05 Zeg9 :-)
13:05 Kacey just remove the fire mod
13:06 Zeg9 I just found it back anyway
13:06 Zeg9 No, I want it on some maps but not on the server
13:10 kaeza 'ello KikaRz
13:12 Kacey bbl
13:14 KikaRz ;(
13:14 KikaRz nobody tells me happy birthday
13:14 KikaRz :(
13:14 celeron55 KikaRz: umm
13:15 VanessaE happy birthday :)
13:15 celeron55 hell
13:15 celeron55 kaeza*
13:15 KikaRz VanessaE
13:15 KikaRz <3
13:15 KikaRz hi celeron55 *w*
13:15 celeron55 kaeza: align statbars by starting them from the alignment side
13:15 VanessaE (and it's also, btw, my husband and I anniversary today.  7 years.)
13:16 KikaRz Cool VanessaE :)
13:16 KikaRz That's fantastic :)
13:16 VanessaE yes :)
13:16 celeron55 my SSH lags like total shit, so don''t expect to see any correctly written words or replies within 10 minutes of saying something
13:16 celeron55 kaeza: or.. does that make sense usually? i guess it does
13:16 kaeza celeron55, I know that feel bro
13:17 celeron55 if somebody wants to align a statbar based on the right side of it but the bar should increase from left to right, then he can use the offset for it (because he knows the length)
13:18 PilzAdam VanessaE, so, what about the bronze block texture?
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13:18 KikaRz VanessaE: Can you help me doing my mod?
13:18 PilzAdam can you make a screenshot of all your ore block textures?
13:18 VanessaE sure I think so.
13:19 VanessaE give me a few mins to put something together.
13:20 kaeza celeron55, so should I leave alignment of bars out? I mean, they are already aligned based on direction
13:22 VanessaE PilzAdam: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_837315526.png
13:23 VanessaE in order bottom to top, left to right:  Bronze, copper, gold, mese, and steel, then moreores mithril, silver, and tin
13:24 PilzAdam that doesnt look good :-/
13:24 Calinou these would tile like shit :P
13:24 VanessaE Calinou: they aren't
13:24 VanessaE aren't supposed to tile.
13:24 Calinou with reduced contrast they would be fine
13:24 VanessaE those are the blocks, not the ores.
13:24 Calinou they don't need to tile perfectly, but some part of the block being black looks bad, imo
13:24 Calinou yes, these are blocks, I know
13:25 Calinou the tin looks good, but there's no tin in the default game :P
13:25 Calinou maybe take the tin texture and recolor it for all the other ores but mithril
13:25 Calinou (and mese of course)
13:25 VanessaE well until we get some kind of realtime per-area specular highlighting, it's kinda hard to get a metallic surface any other way :)
13:26 VanessaE you're welcome to use any of these if you want to.
13:26 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/16px-realistic-textures/tree/master/Vanessa_16
13:26 VanessaE (yes, those are from HDX)
13:27 VanessaE (I wonder where those *xxxx files came from?  odd.)
13:28 Calinou *bro0,
13:28 Calinou ?
13:28 Calinou what's that? youc an use * in file names as jokers?
13:28 VanessaE I never created those, must be one of my scripts that did it/.
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13:28 VanessaE no matter, I'l delete 'em later.
13:29 * PilzAdam finally managed to change his launchpad login e-mail
13:30 KikaRz-HappyBD VanessaE, when you can, see my request / idea
13:31 VanessaE KikaRz-HappyBD: I am too tired now to really understand what you're getting at.
13:31 KikaRz-HappyBD Ok... I'll make a draw.
13:31 VanessaE not now
13:31 VanessaE I'm about to go to bed
13:31 Calinou oh, happy birthday KikaRz-HappyBD :P
13:31 KikaRz-HappyBD ok
13:31 KikaRz-HappyBD Kisses.
13:31 KikaRz-HappyBD Thank you Calinou ;D
13:31 Calinou np
13:31 VanessaE there, *xxx files deleted.
13:32 KikaRz-HappyBD Calinou, you know any free VPS?
13:32 KikaRz-HappyBD 128 MB Ram at least?
13:32 Calinou ask Traxie21, she has one
13:32 Calinou doesn't seem to lag too much, although it crashed a few times (mods?)
13:32 KikaRz-HappyBD Traxie21, where I can get one Free VPS? at least with 128 mb ram?
13:32 Calinou she's not on irc :P
13:32 KikaRz-HappyBD ...
13:32 KikaRz-HappyBD Mada****
13:32 KikaRz-HappyBD '-'
13:32 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5274
13:32 PilzAdam VanessaE, good night
13:33 VanessaE PilzAdam: those metal block textures were derived from a public domain brushed metal image, so they're WTFPL if you wanna use one.
13:33 VanessaE and, I'm off.
13:33 VanessaE night all, or something :)
13:34 KikaRz-HappyBD Oh, i can join that irc
13:34 KikaRz-HappyBD or not.
13:35 Calinou we need a "slipperiness" groups for nodes, so that we can have this: http://www.damnlol.com/pics/642/3b6481ae683b877bcda3763fdff48c76.gif
13:36 sfan5 oh yes
13:38 KikaRz-HappyBD Hi sfan5, you have one free vps?
13:38 sfan5 yes
13:38 KikaRz-HappyBD I need one...
13:39 sfan5 host1free.com
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13:48 KikaRz-HappyBD ...
13:48 celeron55 kaeza: the vertical alignment for statbars is useful i guess
13:48 KikaRz-HappyBD sfan5, tell me one better.
13:48 celeron55 kaeza: or... maybe not, that can be done with offsets too
13:48 KikaRz-HappyBD should i get one with debian 6.0?
13:51 lamefun hi
13:51 PilzAdam hmmmm, I have added snow and ice to common
13:51 lamefun why does everyone on forum complain about obsidian and no one complains about steel?
13:52 KikaRz-HappyBD sfan5, i get with debian 6.0?
13:53 sfan5 KikaRz-HappyBD: huh?
13:53 KikaRz-HappyBD Ok, host1free dont works.
13:53 KikaRz-HappyBD can you help me?
13:53 KikaRz-HappyBD teamviewer?
13:54 KikaRz-HappyBD sfan5, I've tried here
13:54 KikaRz-HappyBD http://members.host1free.com/vps?ac=h1f_register_vps
13:54 KikaRz-HappyBD But no success... look the error
13:55 KikaRz-HappyBD VPS Hostname
13:55 KikaRz-HappyBD Only registrations from unique IPs allowed
13:55 PilzAdam lamefun, you want to complain about steel? sure, go ahead
13:56 KikaRz-HappyBD Hello?
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13:58 sfan5 KikaRz-HappyBD: http://www.host1free.com/vps-registration/
13:58 KikaRz-HappyBD Not working
13:58 sfan5 ?
13:59 sfan5 why not working?
13:59 sfan5 thats the right link
13:59 john_minetest KikaRz: You have got birthday?
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14:02 [0gb_us] lamefun: Steel is awesome. It can be used to create the only nodes vandals cannot destroy.
14:03 lamefun I think iron more needs more than a simple furnace to become steel. Maybe introduce a blast furnace to make steel harder to make? Iron ore + coal (as coke) + something flammable (as fuel) in blast furnace --> pig iron. Then pig iron + furnace --> cast iron. Again --> steel. Again --> iron lump (pure iron).
14:03 lamefun [0gb_us], what nodes?
14:03 [0gb_us] No need to make it complicated. Why does the game need to be realistic?
14:03 kaeza lamefun → go bug realtest
14:04 [0gb_us] Nodes: locked chest and locked door.
14:04 jojoa1997|Tablet Maybe we should be able to connect furnaces
14:05 jojoa1997|Tablet Like if 2 are next to each other they make double furnace
14:05 lamefun [0gb_us], it doesn't. I just don't like magical rare super-materials.
14:05 [0gb_us] lamefun: What doesn't do what?
14:05 celeron55 lamefun: again, go improve realtest, everything you say suits it well
14:06 [0gb_us] Iron does act as a material for locked chests and locked doors. Assuming you are using the common game, this is an undeniable fact.
14:07 kaeza [0gb_us], rule #1 of the internet: DNFTT
14:08 jojoa1997|Tablet Imposter http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5712
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14:08 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam has an icon imposter
14:08 [0gb_us] kaeza: I can't follow a rule I don't understand.
14:08 kaeza Do Not Feed The Trolls
14:09 [0gb_us] Ah. But trolls are hungry. And fun to pester.
14:09 jojoa1997|Tablet I never replied
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14:09 [0gb_us] Every time I see the Minetest icon, I think it's the PilzAdam icon.
14:09 lamefun [0gb_us], wait, locked chests are indestructible?
14:10 [0gb_us] They are if they have an item in them. If they are empty, you can steal other peoples' locked chests.
14:14 jojoa1997|Tablet So
14:14 jojoa1997|Tablet Anyone like the new snow stuff
14:16 [0gb_us] The snow will be cool once it's obtainable, which I'm told will happen in mapgen version seven.
14:22 lamefun My complaint is not about realism, it's about fully-ready-to-use-just-out-of-the-ore materials.
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14:22 [0gb_us] It's not ready to use. You have to smelt it.
14:23 NakedFury using ores without smelting them?
14:24 [0gb_us] No, you have to smelt them. Except coal, you can craft that into things without smelting.
14:24 [0gb_us] Oh, and mese.
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14:32 sfan5 !up 127.0.0.1 30011
14:32 MinetestBot 127.0.0.1:30011 is up (0.106ms)
14:34 lamefun Are there any plans to add ways to process steel further?
14:35 [0gb_us] Probably not in common, but maybe in other games.
14:35 [0gb_us] Is there a way to set the on_step() property of players?
14:36 KikaRz-HappyBD john_minetest, yes.
14:36 KikaRz-HappyBD !up vortex.gbgz.net 30001
14:36 MinetestBot vortex.gbgz.net:30001 seems to be down
14:36 KikaRz-HappyBD kidding, that domain doesn't exist.
14:36 KikaRz-HappyBD '-'
14:37 PilzAdam [0gb_us], only in on_globalstep() and looping through all players
14:38 [0gb_us] Okay, I'll do that then. Thanks!
14:38 KikaRz-HappyBD Go take some Lemons!!! (GLaDoS) Yes! Take that lemons!!!
14:38 john_minetest KikaRz-HappyBD: Congratulations!
14:38 KikaRz-HappyBD Congratulations? I did any achievement?
14:39 john_minetest Achievement got: "Get one year older"
14:39 KikaRz-HappyBD o_o'
14:39 KikaRz-HappyBD I have 1 year old?
14:39 KikaRz-HappyBD O_O'
14:39 john_minetest No, it is an annual achievement
14:39 KikaRz-HappyBD Oh, that's an HBD
14:39 KikaRz-HappyBD thanks
14:42 john_minetest np ^^
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14:54 [0gb_us] I just built a small script to turn dirt_with_grass into dirt_with_grass_footsteps when people walk on it. Do you think it should turn back after a while, or leave a permanent trail?
14:54 NakedFury after a while turn back
14:54 NakedFury but maybe if it is walked upon a lot then become permanent?
14:55 PilzAdam its better to make it only into _footsteps if the player walks over it very often
14:55 [0gb_us] Define "a lot". I think it should be permanent or not, a pure boolean.
14:56 [0gb_us] How would I know if it has been walked on a lot versus a little?
14:56 NakedFury a lot= you travel regularly by that path
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14:56 [0gb_us] How would it be known how often a path is used?
14:57 NakedFury dont know, I guess it would need to have some data of if it had been walked upon or not
14:57 PilzAdam increment a int in the meta, if its over 20 or so turn it into _footsteps
14:57 [0gb_us] Okay. Will do.
14:57 RealBadAngel hey ho
14:57 NakedFury hey
14:57 [0gb_us] Hey, RealBadAngel.
14:58 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, you havent commented yesterday, how do you like current state of glasslike_framed?
14:58 PilzAdam its better than the things you started with :-)
14:58 RealBadAngel hehehe
14:58 PilzAdam can I see a Lua nodedef for one of the nodes?
14:58 RealBadAngel sure
15:01 RealBadAngel minetest.register_node("default:wooden_framed_glass", {
15:01 RealBadAngel description = "Glass",
15:01 RealBadAngel drawtype = "glasslike_framed",
15:01 RealBadAngel tiles = {"default_wood.png","default_glass_streaks.png"},
15:01 RealBadAngel paramtype = "light",
15:01 * Zeg9 is finally back. Hi again.
15:01 RealBadAngel sunlight_propagates = true,
15:01 RealBadAngel groups = {cracky=3,oddly_breakable_by_hand=3},
15:01 RealBadAngel sounds = default.node_sound_glass_defaults(),
15:01 RealBadAngel })
15:01 Zeg9 Oh, I was just in the middle of the code past 8D
15:01 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, use a fucking pastebin!
15:02 RealBadAngel too short ;) save the bits ;)
15:02 [0gb_us] Hey, Zeg9.
15:02 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, everyone over 3 LOC should go into a pastebin
15:02 PilzAdam or you will be banned
15:02 PilzAdam *everything
15:03 RealBadAngel cmon, i agree it was *slightly* too big
15:03 RealBadAngel dont crucify me for that :P
15:04 RealBadAngel back to thema, ive made separate, new drawtype for it
15:04 [0gb_us] Hmm. I think I need to draw a better texture for this too.
15:05 RealBadAngel what differs this one from anything else is using nodeboxes and faces at the very same time
15:05 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, do you have a fix for the broken lighting in facedir nodes yet?
15:05 RealBadAngel first texture in tiles is used for drawing frames
15:05 RealBadAngel second is used for faces
15:06 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, propably not, havent updated my repos for a week or so
15:06 RealBadAngel i do have 4 projects running
15:07 PilzAdam better to fix bugs in already merged features before adding new features
15:08 RealBadAngel my code definitely have nothing to do with fixes
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15:08 RealBadAngel its definitely new code, not the modification
15:08 PilzAdam ehm
15:09 PilzAdam your 6d facedir code broke lighting on facedir nodes
15:09 RealBadAngel really?
15:10 RealBadAngel i may know why
15:10 PilzAdam the lighting is done first, then it gets rotated
15:10 RealBadAngel this wouldnt happen if celeron accepted first version of code (with ^tranform)
15:11 PilzAdam that code was even more wrong :-)
15:11 RealBadAngel that was and is still used in MT engine
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15:11 RealBadAngel grep for transform in sources
15:12 RealBadAngel my fault i screwed lights tho
15:12 RealBadAngel i should have think of it
15:12 RealBadAngel but, im still learnin the engine
15:12 PilzAdam but its not used in the massive amount you wanted to use it
15:13 RealBadAngel 6dfacedir is massive change
15:14 RealBadAngel but thx to it every facedired nodes are faster now
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15:14 RealBadAngel im glad celeron pushed me to go this way
15:15 RealBadAngel ive learned a lot bout irrlicht engine
15:17 RealBadAngel pity i missed lighting, mea culpa
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15:18 RealBadAngel btw today during coffe break i solved logic for frame edges
15:19 RealBadAngel i was sitting whole yesterday coding and couldnt solve it
15:19 RealBadAngel and today in just 20 minutes break, i made table of inputs and defined logic operations needed to get desired output
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15:20 RealBadAngel and it turned out to be just one IF, one XOR and one AND
15:21 RealBadAngel in fact, i will try it now ;)
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15:27 rubenwardy hi all
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15:32 jojoa1997|Tablet Does anyone know how to make chests combine?
15:33 PilzAdam yes
15:33 celeron55 RealBadAngel: the thing is not whether it's a pity or not that you broke lighting; it's that you are the one who currently knows the code best so you should fix it to save the pain of somebody else figuring out how it works and fixing it
15:33 jojoa1997|Tablet how
15:34 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, use on_place() to manually place the chest
15:34 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah i thought so
15:34 jojoa1997|Tablet i will be doing same thing with chests
15:34 RealBadAngel celeron55, it is fixed already?
15:34 PilzAdam you also need to define 2 extra nodes for each side of the doublechest
15:34 celeron55 RealBadAngel: no, and nobody is fixing it except you
15:34 jojoa1997|Tablet but how do i combine the inv
15:35 celeron55 i think what basically needs to be done is that it needs to look up each vertex from the non-rotated mesh at the same position as where it is in the rotated one, and if there is such, copy the color value from it
15:36 RealBadAngel celeron55, from what i understood from PilzAdam's talking that was fixed. I got it wrong then, thats why i apologized for screwing it
15:36 RealBadAngel i will fix it asap
15:36 RealBadAngel sorry
15:36 celeron55 (the point is, the lighting which is stored in the vertices gets rotated with the vertices now)
15:37 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, when connecting, change the formspec of both chests to show the list from the other chest
15:37 RealBadAngel now when the subject was raised i realized that
15:37 jojoa1997|Tablet could i set one half to one chest and one half to the other
15:37 jojoa1997|Tablet ?
15:38 RealBadAngel i will finish just the code for glasslike_framed and then will fix the lighting
15:38 PilzAdam lemme search an example
15:38 jojoa1997|Tablet thanks i know little about formspecs
15:39 jojoa1997|Tablet though tonight i plan on making a video to show features in minitest
15:39 PilzAdam list[context;main;0,0;8,4;] list[nodemeta:x,y,z;main;9,0;8,4]
15:39 PilzAdam this will add the content of the chest at x,y,z to the formspec of the current chest
15:40 PilzAdam so, lets say you run on_place(), find the second chest at pos, and connect to it
15:40 PilzAdam then you do
15:40 jojoa1997|Tablet list[modemeta:x-1,y,z;main;9,0;8,4;]
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15:41 PilzAdam meta:set_string("formspec", "list[context;main;0,0;8,4]list[nodemeta:"..pos.x..","..pos.y..","..pos.z..";main;9,0;8,4])
15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet ?.?
15:42 PilzAdam ehm, +"
15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet what is the "..pos.x.." for
15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet like
15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet pos.x+1
15:42 PilzAdam that inserts the coordinates into the string
15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet ok
15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet oh
15:43 PilzAdam pos is the position of the second chest
15:43 PilzAdam (lets say you already found it)
15:43 PilzAdam all the other stuff is more or less trivial
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15:46 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam have you thought of adding an animation and a charge up for your bows mod
15:46 PilzAdam not possible
15:47 jojoa1997|Tablet why not
15:47 PilzAdam it would be extremly hacky
15:47 jojoa1997|Tablet just have 3-5 seperate pics for the bows
15:47 PilzAdam if its possible at all
15:47 jojoa1997|Tablet wht bout this
15:47 celeron55 a simple bar for that in the hud would probably be easy to do now though 8)
15:47 iqualfragile PilzAdam: is there some way to specify a collisionbox for a node wich is different from its nodebox?
15:47 jojoa1997|Tablet i will see if i can
15:47 Jordach iqualfragile, you can
15:48 PilzAdam iqualfragile, nope
15:48 Jordach make another table for selection_box
15:48 jojoa1997|Tablet yes
15:48 RealBadAngel i also noticed that
15:48 jojoa1997|Tablet selection_box = {
15:48 iqualfragile JEIN!
15:48 jojoa1997|Tablet type = "fixed
15:48 jojoa1997|Tablet ,
15:48 jojoa1997|Tablet ",
15:48 RealBadAngel colision_box should be added for nodeboxs
15:48 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, stop it
15:48 jojoa1997|Tablet fixed = {}
15:48 jojoa1997|Tablet ok
15:49 RealBadAngel i had same problem with frames
15:49 celeron55 in what kind of stuff do people want to use collisionboxes that differ from nodeboxes?
15:49 iqualfragile cauldron
15:49 RealBadAngel i had to add invisible nodebox in center so players cant fall into frame
15:50 celeron55 iqualfragile: because you want to block the way in while there is a visible hole in it? or what
15:51 RealBadAngel celeron55, technic frames for example
15:51 RealBadAngel movable blocks that are represented by frames
15:52 iqualfragile other way around: there is a pot and its filled with some liquid, i want stuffs to go throught the liquid
15:52 RealBadAngel frames are BS sized by are empty inside, so player can fall in when walkin on it
15:52 jojoa1997|Tablet is there a way i could have something do a function while holding the tool but do a different thing when the button is released
15:53 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, nope
15:53 RealBadAngel jojoa1997|Tablet, try detecting shift for different tools behaviour
15:54 jojoa1997|Tablet well no
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15:54 RealBadAngel this way screwdriver changes modes when shift is pressed
15:54 jojoa1997|Tablet will talk later and explauin
15:54 jojoa1997|Tablet explain
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15:56 celeron55 i wonder if there is anything that would make it a bad idea to make it possible to specify collision boxes
15:59 KikaRz-HappyBD I already have my free vps
15:59 KikaRz-HappyBD :D
15:59 KikaRz-HappyBD I've asked my brother's girlfriend to enter in her computer by Teamviewer and do this
16:00 iqualfragile celeron55: trolls wich create frking large collisionboxes?
16:05 celeron55 http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/48511362536/i-dont-need-to-test-that-what-can-possibly-go-wrong
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16:07 Traxie21 meow
16:07 Traxie21 Woot, it works now
16:09 celeron55 http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/47263774249/unpacking-bz2-sql-dump
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16:11 Traxie21 You never know how much you love github until you're forced to not use it for a bit X_X
16:14 sfan5 celeron55: thats the true power of bz2 ;)
16:15 KikaRz-HappyBD Traxie21, do you use host1free VPS?
16:16 KikaRz-HappyBD or another service?
16:16 Traxie21 Host1free
16:16 Traxie21 why?
16:16 KikaRz-HappyBD k.
16:16 KikaRz-HappyBD it takes 1 day, really?
16:16 Traxie21 No
16:16 KikaRz-HappyBD so, how many hours?
16:16 Traxie21 For me, like 2 weeks :P
16:16 Traxie21 But I was just unlucky
16:16 KikaRz-HappyBD I'll consider you as: Funny...
16:17 Traxie21 jordach got his in like 3 days
16:17 KikaRz-HappyBD And I consider your answer as: You are kidding :D
16:20 Traxie21 meow
16:21 * sokomine looks suspicious at traxie
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16:21 Jordach KikaRz-HappyBD, i got mine in three day
16:21 KikaRz-HappyBD ...
16:22 KikaRz-HappyBD i want in less than 9 hours
16:22 KikaRz-HappyBD at least, tomorrow
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16:23 Jordach KikaRz-HappyBD, theyll email you when its done
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16:27 iqualfragile celeron55: oh god that page is too true
16:29 KikaRz-HappyBD VanessaE or someone who likes USB install
16:31 ShadowNinja http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/39647530743/kill-9-1
16:34 KikaRz-HappyBD Someone?
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16:39 Jordach hey mauvebic
16:40 mauvebic howdy
16:40 Traxie21 SunriseTest back online
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16:51 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #96 from VanessaE/master 0a9bcf26ca 2013-04-22T09:50:13-07:00 http://git.io/5o8k7A
16:53 khonkhortisan BullShit messed up math: m_vertices[i].Pos.rotateXZBy(atan2(ppos.Z/BS-m_pos.Z, ppos.X/BS-m_pos.X)/core::DEGTORAD+90);
16:54 khonkhortisan You'd expect two positions to be in the same coordinate system, but no!
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17:00 Traxie21 Strange error
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17:04 Traxie21 Error: attempt to index field 'env' a nil value
17:04 Traxie21 O_o
17:04 mauvebic that happens sometime, though its been a while so i dont remember exactly why lol
17:05 Traxie21 fack
17:05 Traxie21 I have a server-crashing chunk that I can't identify
17:05 mauvebic post the relevant bits of the debug log here someone should be able to figure it out quickly
17:06 Traxie21 heh
17:06 Traxie21 Server just shuts down when that area loads
17:07 PilzAdam Traxie21, that appears when you try to access minetest.env when initially loading the script
17:07 mauvebic then you have something making improper use of on generated
17:07 Traxie21 ok adam
17:07 mauvebic use minetest.after
17:08 Traxie21 just did
17:08 Traxie21 O_O
17:08 Traxie21 Invalid node name is: "ignore"
17:09 PilzAdam note that if you get this bug you basically screw the whole mod structure up and minetest.after() is just a workaround to not crash
17:09 PilzAdam but it doesnt solve anything
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17:09 Traxie21 Its just trying to identify a problem
17:10 mauvebic well without debug/code its hard to guess from chat
17:10 [0gb_us] "Burning Lava: When Lava alone is not enough..."
17:10 [0gb_us] http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85551#p85551
17:10 [0gb_us] Nice.
17:11 Traxie21 PilzAdam: I'm using your clean mod
17:11 Traxie21 Mauvebic: Are you still leaving? :C
17:12 mauvebic im hanging around here for awhile, that's about it :p dunno when my wife will let me play, she's been hogging the computer since yesterday :p
17:12 Traxie21 lol
17:12 Traxie21 I'd honestly fork this game if I knew C++
17:12 PilzAdam Traxie21, you wouldnt if you knew c++
17:13 Traxie21 Why not?
17:13 mauvebic but who wants to maintain a fork? 13$ solves alot of problems for me lol
17:14 mauvebic alot of stuff ive been wanting to see for the past year and a half
17:15 rubenwardy Traxie21: I think he is saying the minetest uses C
17:15 rubenwardy well
17:15 mauvebic minetest is cpp?
17:15 rubenwardy they prefer c rather than c++ techniques
17:15 rubenwardy it is cpp is format, but it seems they are stuck in c
17:16 mauvebic stuck in alot ways (imo)
17:16 Traxie21 My point is, I'd love to just find a new community to be with this game
17:16 mauvebic lol the community is excellent
17:16 Traxie21 The current one is too closed-minded and arrogant
17:16 khonkhortisan Minetest converts double -> float -> double, and multiplies and divides by 10 just so you can't convert stuff.
17:16 khonkhortisan That's BS, btw
17:16 mauvebic there are more resources here than in blockscape, if only they'd use them
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17:19 Calinou Traxie21: correction: poisonous people are too closed-minded and arrogant
17:20 Traxie21 poisonous people are hard to define :3
17:20 mauvebic depends who you're talking about :P
17:20 Calinou wayland devs approve
17:20 Calinou *cough*scott moreau*cough*
17:20 * Calinou minimizes themself
17:20 mauvebic scott moreau?
17:20 PilzAdam mauvebic, Traxie21, http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/36872312199/providing-feedback-to-development
17:21 Traxie21 >_>
17:21 mauvebic the issue aint feedback :P its turning down help and belittling potential contributors before they've even started :p
17:21 Traxie21 Gawd, one day jojoa will learn to spell
17:21 Traxie21 sulphurr is not any known thing afaik
17:22 Calinou it's "sulphur" once you've smoked sulphur
17:22 Traxie21 lol
17:22 Traxie21 For the record though, his version of redstone isnt that bad
17:24 [0gb_us] Spelling isn't as important as punctuation. Spell check can help those of us that can't spell, but jojoa needs to stop ending his questions with periods.
17:24 mauvebic bbl, wife won't let me play, might as well vacuum lol
17:25 Traxie21 are you sure 0gb.us.
17:25 [0gb_us] mauvebic: Don't fall for it! If you vacuum when she won't let you play, she'll not let you play next time she wants you to vacuum!
17:25 [0gb_us] Traxie21: Stop that! Use a question mark.
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17:25 Traxie21 ok!
17:25 rubenwardy this is an amazing game: http://tinyurl.com/258co5
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17:27 * [0gb_us] mutes computer, then plays
17:27 celeron55 rubenwardy: lol i didn't even mismove the mouse when the image with the sound came, but it won't let me finish
17:27 celeron55 bad game
17:27 [0gb_us] Turn up the sound? Yeah, right ....
17:28 rubenwardy It made my brother jump of the chair
17:28 rubenwardy *off
17:28 * celeron55 is used to this kind of shit on the internet
17:28 * [0gb_us] must leave for a couple hours, but will miss you all
17:28 [0gb_us] Yeah, me too. Which is why I turned off the sound.
17:28 khonkhortisan Don't play that game.
17:29 celeron55 i kept it on because i wanted to see whether i would fail because of it 8)
17:29 khonkhortisan I crashed at the start of challenge 3, and it knocked me back to the start
17:29 rubenwardy It is a great game!
17:29 khonkhortisan no it's not
17:29 rubenwardy you need to finish it
17:29 khonkhortisan the ending
17:29 celeron55 it would've been a good game if it would actually allow to continue and not just stop as if i would have jumped off the window
17:30 khonkhortisan I made it around one very narrow corner
17:30 rubenwardy you are supposed to lean in at the end to get better aim
17:31 khonkhortisan I would've if it became small enough to count pixels
17:32 rubenwardy there is a scary maze game 2...
17:35 Traxie21 So many server counting bugs
17:36 iqualfragile "Scary_Maze_Game.swf" … thats not even trying
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17:39 drizz haha
17:41 Calinou Traxie21: emergethreadagad!
17:41 Traxie21 Lol
17:46 Xenorax How does one give the Forcefield Emitter power in the Technic Pack?
17:46 jojoa1997|Tablet https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/583
17:46 jojoa1997|Tablet https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/546
17:46 jojoa1997|Tablet We Ned these
17:46 Calinou Xenorax: cables?
17:46 Calinou mesecons?
17:46 Calinou +1, jojoa1997|Tablet
17:46 jojoa1997|Tablet Calinou whaere?
17:47 Xenorax Cables don't seem to work. The lv cables plug into them, but they wont gain power.
17:47 Traxie21 I love geany
17:47 Traxie21 I configured it to run Minetest on lua files
17:47 jojoa1997|Tablet <Calinou> tablet user!
17:47 jojoa1997|Tablet Traxie how is Minitest now?
17:47 Traxie21 less buggy
17:47 Traxie21 Still crashes a lot
17:47 jojoa1997|Tablet :-)
17:47 jojoa1997|Tablet What?
17:48 jojoa1997|Tablet Might be your mods
17:48 jojoa1997|Tablet Also send me the reports
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17:56 iqualfragile1 hi iqualfragile
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17:57 Calinou <Traxie21> I love geany => +1
17:58 Calinou I use it too, and you can use it as a replacement of gedit just fine
17:58 Traxie21 I set it to run minetest when opening LUA files
17:58 Calinou O_o
18:01 Traxie21 Easy
18:01 Traxie21 Build -> Set Build Commands
18:02 Traxie21 Add a Lua command that runs ./minetest in workingdirectory /WHEREVERMINETESTISINSTALLED/bin
18:02 Traxie21 Did that for make and excecute too
18:03 Calinou I use geany as a text editor, hidden all tabs but the main one
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18:03 Traxie21 I did the same, except I kept the build bar
18:03 BlockMen hi
18:04 BlockMen PilzAdam, havent watched yet, but seems interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot6_ctng15U
18:05 PilzAdam Minetest? kenn ich nich...
18:05 PilzAdam will watch it later
18:06 BlockMen lol, also show what i mentioned yesterday about games and mods :P
18:07 Traxie21 Potions+HUD is ready :D
18:07 BlockMen Traxie21, nice. you solved the timer problem?
18:07 Traxie21 mostly
18:07 Traxie21 some testing glitches
18:07 Traxie21 but its mostly done
18:09 Traxie21 i gtg
18:09 Traxie21 gonna push potions
18:09 celeron55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDPeuJr-Vsw
18:09 celeron55 finnish art
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18:17 PilzAdam celeron55, Im happy you havent made Minetest like "finnish art" :-)
18:19 Jordach no he did make it like finnish art
18:19 Jordach its called a old nokia]
18:19 Jordach celeron55, ^
18:20 mauvebic im not xsure i get the reference lol aren't nokias indestructable?
18:22 drizz celeron55: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h05POLIQ1rs
18:24 drizz celeron55: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqzESY7SIqU
18:24 drizz enjoy.
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18:49 mauvebic im getting PM's from Doc22 (?) saying he cant chat here
18:51 Jordach hes been muted iirc
18:51 Jordach anyways: http://i.imgur.com/HRg7F13.png
18:52 mauvebic judging from the host i told him to get a real irc client
18:52 mauvebic though if he's been banned/muted than a moderator needs to explain it to him not me :p
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18:56 KikaRz Oláaa
18:56 KikaRz Hellooo
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18:56 khonkhortisan Greeteengs
18:57 KikaRz Greetings
18:57 KikaRz You know what day is today?
18:57 khonkhortisan Monday? Earth day?
18:57 KikaRz-HappyBD Read my nick
18:57 khonkhortisan ah.
18:58 KikaRz-HappyBD ah?
18:58 KikaRz-HappyBD host1free takes too much time...
18:58 khonkhortisan Happy Birthday!
18:58 khonkhortisan the tv said it at the same time as I did
18:58 KikaRz-HappyBD Thank yooou!!! ?
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18:58 Jordach dafuq
18:58 KikaRz-HappyBD Hello Calinou
18:58 Jordach my irc client is going mad
18:58 KikaRz-HappyBD Hi Jordach. Dafuq for you too.
18:58 Calinou hi happy blu-ray disk
18:58 Calinou :>
18:59 KikaRz-HappyBD Calinou, i'm "tapes time."
18:59 Jordach i keep getting those nick highlights when i aint
18:59 KikaRz-HappyBD Jordach, client?
18:59 Jordach xchat
18:59 KikaRz-HappyBD oh.
18:59 KikaRz-HappyBD Probably your skin?
19:00 Calinou this channel has 100 users!
19:01 Jordach \O/
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19:02 PilzAdam awww, jordan4ibanez, you ruined it!
19:02 sfan5 :D
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19:02 * ShadowBot wakes up
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19:02 Jordach were on 99
19:02 * ShadowBot sleeps
19:02 Jordach 100!
19:02 sfan5 100°
19:02 sfan5 *100!
19:02 Jordach WOOOO
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19:02 mauvebic gg?
19:02 Jordach NO
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19:02 * ShadowBot wakes up
19:03 sfan5 100!
19:03 Jordach YAY
19:03 Jordach 100!
19:03 Jordach WOOT
19:03 jordan4ibanez ¿Qué es lo arruino? Yo no arruinar nada! ¿Por qué estoy en Español?
19:03 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: no
19:03 * Jordach starts raising the roof
19:03 jordan4ibanez What did I ruin
19:03 sfan5 100 users in this channel
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19:04 sfan5 MinetestBot: you ruined it!
19:04 jordan4ibanez exactly 100 users
19:04 sfan5 no 101
19:04 Jordach sfan5, kill minetestbot
19:04 sfan5 shes innocent
19:05 mauvebic she? surrogate girlfriend? lol
19:05 mauvebic hook it up to this thing: http://dailykimchi.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Kiss-transmission-device2-550x409.jpg
19:05 Jordach i like to call her 7 mins of heaven :P
19:06 KikaRz-HappyBD jordan4ibanez, ...
19:06 KikaRz-HappyBD mauvebic, you so cute <3
19:06 jordan4ibanez Happy birthday
19:06 mauvebic 7mins only if youre not a minuteman :P
19:06 KikaRz-HappyBD Thank you jordan4ibanez
19:06 mauvebic uhm, im not asian lol
19:06 PilzAdam sfan5, can someone tell him to disable bi- and trilinear filters? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot6_ctng15U
19:06 KikaRz-HappyBD mauvebic... but you sent that pic of you transmitting a kiss...
19:07 sfan5 PilzAdam: will do later
19:07 mauvebic but im not asian, nor would i buy apple
19:07 Calinou lol mauvebic
19:07 KikaRz-HappyBD PilzAdam: you can translate what he says?
19:07 KikaRz-HappyBD or sfan5?
19:07 KikaRz-HappyBD I think he's chinese that speechs dutch.
19:07 jordan4ibanez Oh my god, the default sounds sound ear-wrenching to me now
19:08 mauvebic kikarz, the BD in your name stands for... bondage and domination or?
19:08 jordan4ibanez oooo that's a little too far...
19:08 sfan5 KikaRz-HappyBD: no, he'd german that speeks german
19:09 sfan5 *he's
19:09 KikaRz-HappyBD Deutschland? '-'
19:09 mauvebic he called me asian lol
19:09 mauvebic fair game
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19:09 KikaRz-HappyBD mauvebic: It's my BirthDay.
19:09 KikaRz-HappyBD Who makes a mod for me? *W*
19:10 jordan4ibanez My cake mod
19:10 KikaRz-HappyBD I want a present / gift
19:10 KikaRz-HappyBD Cake is a lie, jordan4ibanez
19:10 Calinou KikaRz-HappyBD, my new moreblocks
19:10 KikaRz-HappyBD fail
19:10 Calinou more broken than ubuntu 13.10: the Sinking Ship
19:10 mauvebic ubuntu sunk a long time ago :P but like the titanic it took people awhile to realize something was up lol
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19:11 mauvebic pretty soon theyll be writing their own kernel in-house, theyve changed just about everything else lol
19:11 Jordach xubuntu ftw
19:11 Calinou it was sarcasm mauvebic, I like ubuntu
19:12 Jordach meh, OpenSUSE is far more user friendly.
19:12 Calinou mauvebic, which other company is known for "proprietarizing" their things? ...nvidia
19:12 Jordach i might go arch at some point
19:12 mauvebic no lifeboats for you then :p
19:12 Calinou who has the best linux driver right now (for performance)? nvidia.
19:12 mauvebic well they write a better driver
19:12 Calinou (and intel for everything else)
19:12 mauvebic not fond of intel graphics on any platform lol
19:12 Calinou the modern ones are fine
19:13 Calinou you can play xonotic on high at 40FPS on an HD4000 :P
19:13 mauvebic you should see the retro colors/triangles with MT on my netbook lol
19:13 Calinou netbooks have atom, with powerVR GPUs
19:13 mauvebic emphasis on playing xonotic, lol i find FPS more reptitive than crafting stuff
19:13 Calinou sandy bridge/ivy bridge has "HD graphics"
19:13 Calinou which are better, much better
19:13 mauvebic atom n450 here
19:14 mauvebic the one before was worse tho
19:14 Calinou n455 on this netbook, and I get occasional artefacts, yes
19:14 mauvebic (ive had 2 netbooks)
19:14 mauvebic old netbook battery lasted all of 50 minutes LOl
19:14 Calinou 3 hours or so here, depends on use
19:15 mauvebic doesnt matter, i dont carry the netbook around much, more likely to have it thiefed
19:15 Calinou anyway, [PSA], anyone who got clue for fixing stairsplus conversions, please tell me
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19:15 * Calinou tends to abuse public service announcements too much
19:15 mauvebic people will steal your mailbox if its not anchored lol
19:17 mauvebic high voltage electric fence + wind farms = an environmentally friendly way to dispatch unwanted visitors :p
19:17 Jordach except burnt flesh makes C02
19:17 mauvebic plants love c02
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19:18 Calinou <intel joke>overclocking makes C1</intel joke>
19:18 Calinou (C-state jokes :p)
19:18 mauvebic i dont overclock lol id rather get new gear than break working gear lol
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19:19 mauvebic at least you can offload the old gear if it still works
19:19 Calinou it doesn't necessarily break it
19:19 mauvebic still a gamble tho
19:20 Calinou it can make it more powerful, thus lasting longer
19:20 Calinou as a poor guy, you don't do that? >:(
19:20 mauvebic not poor, i just dont rely on credit
19:20 Calinou (or well, someone who doesn't want to change their PC often)
19:20 mauvebic savings, the lost arts lol
19:20 Calinou :P
19:20 Jordach anyways, since my father died two weeks ago, i will more than likely receive his 270k
19:20 mauvebic i guess we wont be seing you around here anymore lol
19:20 Calinou " since my father died two weeks ago" => never knew :x
19:21 Jordach Calinou, i told VanessaE about it
19:21 mauvebic new rig, new games
19:21 Jordach mauvebic, nope. bigger tower, bigger Minetest.
19:21 mauvebic well i doubt vanessae would gossip about it to other moderators
19:21 Jordach yeah
19:21 Calinou too bad you don't reside in france and have facebook, Jordach
19:21 Jordach why Calinou
19:21 mauvebic you can only add french facebook people?
19:22 mauvebic must be some weird new law of Hollande's lol
19:22 Jordach inb4 Calinou wants a share of 270k
19:22 mauvebic lol
19:22 mauvebic yeah you shouldn't have mentionned that here
19:22 Jordach i dont even plan on using it.
19:23 Calinou there's a french e-commerçant doing this: http://www.cowcotland.com/images/news/2013/04/top-acaht-concours-dream-machineiii.jpg
19:23 Calinou a €5000 machine
19:23 Jordach fuck that.
19:23 Calinou no u
19:23 Jordach ill build mine
19:23 mauvebic in any case, 3 computers aint poor lol
19:23 mauvebic not with people playing from public computers
19:23 Jordach mauvebic, two towers and a 19'' laptop in here
19:23 Calinou fun fact: I have the same SSD as that machine :D
19:24 Jordach mauvebic, i plan on keeping the account in france
19:24 mauvebic still not sure what ill do with the p4 when the processor finally goes, its the last original part, much like grandma's situation
19:24 Calinou so much taxes in france
19:24 Jordach (yes, my dad used a french bank to avoid taxes_
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19:24 mauvebic 75% on income, whats the inheritance tax like?
19:24 Calinou mauvebic, build a new PC with a cheap celeron :P
19:24 Jordach mauvebic, fuck all afaik
19:24 Calinou Jordach, avoid taxes? in france? WTF
19:25 mauvebic could always do like Depardieu and defect to Russia lol
19:25 Jordach Calinou, he was gaining £600 on no tax
19:25 Calinou StrayBytes, we know you're rarkenin >:)
19:25 Jordach + my disability bonus of £600
19:25 StrayBytes Yeah, everyone knows.
19:25 StrayBytes Just needed some change.
19:25 mauvebic disability? for what? we seem to have alot of that here
19:25 Jordach mauvebic, i have mild autism
19:26 Jordach thats why my english isnt exactly the queens, is it
19:26 StrayBytes Same here as well.
19:26 mauvebic with britain's finances in the state they are in, is there any danger that it wont last?
19:26 Jordach mauvebic, i keep all income from it
19:26 Jordach Disabled > Non-Disabled
19:26 mauvebic over here the gov't is actually asking our soldiers to PAY BACK danger pay from afghanistan, talk about stabbing in the back
19:27 Calinou StrayBytes, too bad you don't live in france: http://www.cowcotland.com/images/news/2013/04/top-acaht-concours-dream-machineiii.jpg
19:27 Calinou :p
19:27 Jordach and Calinou if it were your BDAY, i would have bought you something
19:27 Calinou the equivalent of the dream machine III, please
19:27 Jordach mines in 8 days
19:27 khonkhortisan Great. Irrlicht can't draw straight lines.
19:28 Jordach i guess Irrlicht is gay
19:28 Calinou khonkhortisan, it can? eg. selection box
19:28 Jordach Calinou, i had the best XBL moment ever the other week
19:29 Jordach playing Halo 4, kicking ass and guess what happens when I'm first on the leaderboard
19:29 Jordach all i heard over the headset is: "your mom's a bitch."
19:30 Calinou lol
19:30 Calinou I turn voice off in TF2
19:30 Calinou no point in listening to people saying stuff like that :P
19:30 Jordach Calinou, me too
19:30 Jordach i forgot to mute voices
19:31 Jordach https://github.com/minetest/common/commit/f81affa77ab1d22619f376246114697c9b28defd#commitcomment-3058261 HOLY SHIT
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19:31 * JesseH has a mod idea that he would like input on.
19:31 Jordach i think 0.4.7 will probably be mapgen V7
19:34 mauvebic anything else planned for 047?
19:34 PilzAdam leveldb and LuaJIT
19:34 PilzAdam I dont think v7 will be ready for 0.4.7
19:35 mauvebic well, neither of those are new :P most people have jit by now and oldcoder did leveldb at least over six months ago
19:35 khonkhortisan This four-way Y is supposed to be a four-way = and look like # but it looks like http://postimg.org/image/v2f761lpn/
19:35 Calinou mauvebic, windows builds don't have JIT
19:35 khonkhortisan It gets the endpoints right, but it joins two lines in the middle
19:35 PilzAdam Calinou, my builds have LuaJIT
19:36 khonkhortisan Or maybe it's crossing the endpoints?
19:37 khonkhortisan Oh. My fault.
19:37 khonkhortisan -v2s32(10, 1) ... +v2s32(10, 1)
19:37 khonkhortisan It was being crossed.
19:37 NakedFury I thought we had leveldb since long time ago
19:38 mauvebic me too :P i know oldcoer uses it for all the worlds he hosts
19:38 Jordach which works far better than sqlite
19:39 Jordach but how the fuck do we make maps with minetestmapper
19:39 mauvebic you need an input path and an output file
19:39 Jordach with leveldb
19:39 Jordach jeez mauvebic
19:39 jordan4ibanez vote: When you enter a graveyard, should it turn the server to night?
19:39 mauvebic ittl have to be rewritten for leveldb obviously :p
19:40 mauvebic jordan only if youre on a private server, alone
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19:40 mauvebic otherwise everytime someone steps in...
19:42 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: yes, if you're alone
19:42 jordan4ibanez or, if everyone in the server is in the graveyard!
19:44 jordan4ibanez or I mean, if everyone on the server is in _a_ graveyard
19:45 Calinou would be sad then, can't people do something else? :D
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19:48 jordan4ibanez And there could be a gravestone which uses the spawner api to spawn undead players at night!
19:49 Calinou idea: when you die, you're jailed in grave. grave opens for 1 minute after sunset
19:49 Calinou (or during night)
19:49 jordan4ibanez sfan5: I left a comment on that let's play you posted
19:49 jordan4ibanez Calinou: That could be interesting
19:49 khonkhortisan nethack version: Dying creates a gravestone. Engraving on the gravestone creates a ghost of the player. Killing the ghost drops the player's previous inventory.
19:49 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: what did i post? wut?
19:49 jordan4ibanez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot6_ctng15U
19:50 NakedFury khonkhortisan: that would be amazing for minetest
19:50 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: italian?
19:50 jordan4ibanez No this is english sfan5
19:50 sfan5 screw it
19:50 NakedFury any special way to kill ghosts? only 1 type of ore that can harm it? like only gold or silver?
19:51 Jordach mithril
19:51 sfan5 http://is.gd/QueX1a
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19:51 Jordach sfan5, dafuq
19:51 BlockMen "313hummer vor 1 Minute
19:51 BlockMen If only I knew how? to speak Italian!" LOL ;D
19:51 Calinou what is the function one can use to set the 6d facedir of a node?
19:52 Calinou and which direction do I need to use to flip something on the Y axis?
19:52 Calinou (upside down slabs/stairs)
19:52 BlockMen sfan, hättest ja ma noch n lob dalassen können
19:53 sfan5 BlockMen: njaa.. hab ich vergessen
19:54 sfan5 BlockMen: bester kommentar unterm video "gibt es das spiel bei steam??"
19:54 Calinou SIIVUT
19:54 Calinou however, ich not bin finnish
19:54 BlockMen dann hols nach und weiß ihn drauf hin, dass er noch "bitte supportet mineCRAFT" in der beschreibung stehen hat. ;)
19:54 BlockMen sfan5, und ich find jordans kommentar am besten
19:55 sfan5 BlockMen: das mit minecraft hab ich auch gesehn..
19:55 drizz so when the hell did everything turn deutsch
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19:56 khonkhortisan Calinou, I made some functions for that https://github.com/khonkhortisan/rubiks/blob/master/init.lua#L350-472
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19:58 Calinou I don't understand, you say "Stealable code" then "--Do not use this in your mod. This is for sharing only." :P
19:58 Calinou if we want to use it, should we copy the whole function? is that what you mean?
20:05 jordan4ibanez What have I done http://i.imgur.com/hx8Bbym.jpg
20:10 khonkhortisan I mean I don't want the function to be in a mod, where other mods have to depend on it. I want it where all mods can access it.
20:11 khonkhortisan You've done random spawning?
20:13 khonkhortisan draw2DLine takes v2s32 as an argument. With no distance between the points, the line is not drawn. So I use drawPixel. But that uses two u32, instead of v2s32. Seems like a bad design to change variable types based on line distance.
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20:24 KikaRz Hello my sweethearts...
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20:24 KikaRz Hi VanessaE, how you and abe are? :D
20:28 * [0gb_us] is back
20:28 khonkhortisan From the center of the crosshair, it goes ten pixels up and left, but nine pixels right and down.
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20:32 MinetestBot GIT: eduardojsm commited to minetest/minetest: Translation to Portuguese of Brazil for Minetest 58ded5cd27 2013-04-22T13:12:57-07:00 http://git.io/FK1PJw
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20:46 Calinou hi Traxie21 and iqualfragile
20:46 Traxie21 hiap Calinou
20:47 Calinou hiap?
20:48 PilzAdam hiap.
20:48 iqualfragile hpia Calinou
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20:50 sokomine hi
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20:52 Calinou oh hey Morrolan :P
20:55 jojoa1997|Tablet Good news
20:55 jojoa1997|Tablet After 3 hours of fighting with node boxes I got cactii to have spikes
20:59 Traxie21 Gratz
20:59 Traxie21 Could you fix the inventory issue?
21:00 ShadowNinja jojoa1997|Tablet: there is already a mod for that...
21:03 jojoa1997|Tablet Shadow I didn't know and wanted to try it myself
21:03 jojoa1997|Tablet Next step is the book
21:03 jojoa1997|Tablet Traxie I will be on server soon
21:04 jojoa1997|Tablet Which inventory is problematic
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21:04 jojoa1997|Tablet Traxie21 ^
21:04 Traxie21 Player inventory does not revert to crafting/back
21:05 BlockMen Traxie21, jojoa1997: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85939#p85939
21:05 Traxie21 lol
21:05 BlockMen sry for that...but i have no idea why it didnt work
21:05 Calinou it's not that hard, jojoa1997|Tablet :P
21:05 Calinou you use 4 flat nodeboxes to do that
21:05 Calinou you would collide with the spikes, however :P
21:05 jojoa1997|Tablet Calinou i have trouble visualizing nodeboxes
21:06 Calinou it's the hardest part, yeah
21:06 jojoa1997|Tablet anyways the spikes are 1/16
21:06 jojoa1997|Tablet spikes = 8/16
21:06 jojoa1997|Tablet cactii body = /16
21:06 jojoa1997|Tablet oh and selection box is just the body
21:07 sokomine use sapiers wielditem editor. it's good for complex nodebox models
21:07 jojoa1997|Tablet link
21:08 jojoa1997|Tablet Traxie21
21:08 Traxie21 yarp?
21:08 jojoa1997|Tablet the problem is when i make minitest i cant test multiplayer
21:08 Traxie21 :I
21:08 jojoa1997|Tablet so bugs like these WILL show up
21:09 jojoa1997|Tablet unless
21:09 Traxie21 Its not so much the bugs, its just that it's a pain to edit mods, because when I update, I have to start over
21:13 jojoa1997|Tablet i know
21:17 jojoa1997|Tablet it ia the stupid reset thingy
21:18 Calinou Traxie21, +1, testing mods in minetest is... painful
21:18 Traxie21 Not w/ github :3
21:18 Calinou it would be nice to be able to bind a key to disconnect and reconnect
21:18 Calinou testing, not publishing
21:20 Calinou error reporting could be fancier too (show more lines in the in-game error log)
21:23 BlockMen Traxie21, jojoa1997, i have another problem with inventory: http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=21l7mtk&amp;s=4
21:24 BlockMen or have you changed the recipe for a workbench?
21:25 Traxie21 O-o
21:26 Traxie21 strange
21:27 BlockMen Traxie21, i guess it an issue with the field width
21:27 Traxie21 I think so
21:27 BlockMen when i left 3 (but they are not in a row) it offers me to craft a slab
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21:29 jojoa1997|Tablet Traxie21 can i have the gamemode priv. I want to be able to test it and also maybe show people the new mesecons stuff
21:29 Traxie21 get online for a sec jojoa, I need to promote you
21:29 Traxie21 can I promote blockie too?
21:29 jojoa1997|Tablet sure
21:30 jojoa1997|Tablet it is your server
21:30 jojoa1997|Tablet and what do you mean promote?
21:30 * jojoa1997|Tablet hides
21:30 * jojoa1997|Tablet is a player
21:31 * jojoa1997|Tablet asks Traxie21 for gamemode priv
21:31 jordan4ibanez Yay now graveyards can generate semi- buried http://i.imgur.com/7h3Skuk.jpg
21:31 khonkhortisan promote 2. to advance in rank, dignity, position, etc. ( opposed to demote )
21:32 khonkhortisan Must a graveyard be flat?
21:33 khonkhortisan You should be able to place gravestones and a wall on the top of the existing ground
21:33 Traxie21 working on it jojoa
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21:34 jordan4ibanez No, but the bottom 4 corners must not be air, and the top 4 corners must be air, graveyards can be spawned semi buried, and in a horrible condition due to mapgen modifying the terrain, but i'll allow it because it looks cool
21:36 BlockMen gd n8t everyone
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21:36 jordan4ibanez good night
21:38 jordan4ibanez I don't know if I should make them super rare though, it would be kind of annoying to have a poop ton of graveyards on the map methinks
21:40 jordan4ibanez Since it uses the same generation rules as flowers and grass, graveyards spawn with flowers and grass in them
21:41 Calinou new item: pooping graveyards
21:41 Calinou spawns dirt under graveyards every 30 seconds
21:41 khonkhortisan Dead peole have long fingernails
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21:42 jordan4ibanez Awesome idea lol
21:42 jordan4ibanez Can I extend the reach of the player?
21:43 kaeza hi all
21:44 sokomine hi kaeza
21:44 kaeza o/
21:44 Calinou jordan4ibanez, not without C++
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21:53 jordan4ibanez Damn
21:54 jojoa1997|Tablet wyhat
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22:16 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/f/eSnH1PDy
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22:24 jojoa1997|Tablet who wants to see a self building wall?
22:24 jojoa1997|Tablet come join traxies server
22:25 PilzAdam worldedit++
22:26 Kacey built one before
22:27 jordan4ibanez Anyone, go get minetest black and find a graveyard, tell me if they are too rare
22:28 jojoa1997|Tablet link to download
22:32 jojoa1997|Tablet jordach i really like your game but
22:32 jojoa1997|Tablet i think you should stick with default or maybe my inventory
22:33 jojoa1997|Tablet cause you cant do creative in yours
22:33 jordan4ibanez Creative mode is fucking stupid
22:33 jojoa1997|Tablet why
22:33 jojoa1997|Tablet when tools run out i cant use your things]
22:34 jordan4ibanez It ruins the fun of the game, the exploring, the adventure
22:34 jordan4ibanez Yes, because they're not complete yet, there are no recipes for powertools or gravestones yet
22:35 * kaeza highfives jordan4ibanez o/
22:35 jordan4ibanez o/\o
22:36 khonkhortisan How tall can you make a self-repairing wall?
22:38 Kacey as tall as you want
22:39 jojoa1997|Tablet any height
22:39 jojoa1997|Tablet or  if it repairs going up up to 15
22:40 jojoa1997|Tablet after i die and fin a graveyard i will make one in minecraft
22:40 jojoa1997|Tablet jordan make skeletons
22:41 jojoa1997|Tablet i am done with coding today
22:43 Kacey http://youtu.be/qnydFmqHuVo
22:43 ssieb jojoa1997|Tablet: is that self-repairing wall a mod?
22:45 jojoa1997|Tablet how does forsmpec work
22:46 jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez for the hammer thingy ^
22:46 jordan4ibanez powertool on left, repair material on the right (steelblock)
22:46 StrayBytes Can we actually make digging realistic? i.e. digging a cubic meter of dirt doesn't take a second with a steel shovel.
22:46 jojoa1997|Tablet can i use rock
22:47 jojoa1997|Tablet i like the new way
22:47 jojoa1997|Tablet formspec and interactive
22:47 jojoa1997|Tablet thpough how do i craft hammers
22:48 drizz what's the name of the water nodes?
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22:49 jojoa1997|Tablet default:water_source
22:49 jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez where do graveyards spawn
22:49 jordan4ibanez randomly
22:50 jojoa1997|Tablet not on dirt or sand or grvel?
22:51 jordan4ibanez only on dirt
22:51 jordan4ibanez or dirt_with_gras
22:51 jordan4ibanez s/gras/grass
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22:51 jojoa1997|Tablet -.-
22:51 jojoa1997|Tablet i am in desert
22:51 jojoa1997|Tablet what is the name for the node gun
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23:03 Exio :D
23:08 drizz is stairs working for anyone else?
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23:15 PilzAdam I was alone in the channel oO
23:16 drizz 01:12:02 Split *.net <-> *.split quits: xming, PilzAdam, dzho
23:16 drizz :p
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23:19 StrayBytes Is the network reconnected?
23:19 StrayBytes #freenode
23:20 Pentium44 what?
23:23 StrayBytes There was a netsplit.
23:27 Pentium44 ahh
23:28 PilzAdam bye
23:29 sokomine we seem to be all back in the channel now
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23:31 Kacey can you define functions with luacontrollers?
23:40 iqualfragile interesting, euirc had a netsplit, too
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23:44 Pentium44 Kacey, hello
23:44 Kacey hi
23:53 jojoa1997|Tablet back
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