| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
VanessaE |
exio, I can't tell for certain because the effect is so subtle, but I think it's working...and it isn't causing any appreciable loss of performance. |
| 00:00 |
VanessaE |
(somehow, I'm cranking along at 75 fps right now with512px HDX) |
| 00:01 |
* jojoa1997|Tablet |
is finally installing a compiler |
| 00:01 |
Exio |
VanessaE: apply_blur(d/2) |
| 00:01 |
Exio |
replace that with apply_blur(d) |
| 00:01 |
Exio |
(for a "weird" effect, but get sure it is working) |
| 00:02 |
VanessaE |
checking |
| 00:02 |
Exio |
thanks |
| 00:02 |
VanessaE |
yeah it's definitely working |
| 00:02 |
Exio |
:D |
| 00:03 |
VanessaE |
lemme explore a bit, get to a spot that usually kills my fps |
| 00:03 |
khonkhortisan |
If you want to kill your framerate, worldedit yourself a menger sponge |
| 00:03 |
Exio |
thanks for that stuff, i really need someone who really plays MT for that stuff :P |
| 00:03 |
jordan4ibanez |
Does shaders work on latest github? |
| 00:03 |
Exio |
(i barely have test-and-raw minetest/minimal worlds) |
| 00:04 |
VanessaE |
Exio: I notice that fog doesn't work now. weird. |
| 00:04 |
Exio |
ehm, the fog? |
| 00:04 |
Exio |
it should replace the normal fog with a "distant blur" |
| 00:04 |
Exio |
as the shader is pretty WIP, but for looking around |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
yeah for me, that shader basically disables fog |
| 00:05 |
khonkhortisan |
distance blur is a well-known compositing effect |
| 00:05 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
geez mingw takes soooooo long to download |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
*turns shader off* |
| 00:06 |
Exio |
haha |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
yep, fog works fine without the shader |
| 00:06 |
Exio |
should it "don't" replace it? |
| 00:06 |
Exio |
as keep the fog + blur? |
| 00:06 |
LostInConfusion |
I turn fog off in my minetest.conf anyway. |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
still, it's good to see that someone is working with it :-) |
| 00:07 |
LostInConfusion |
I know, I'm just bringing it up. |
| 00:07 |
LostInConfusion |
We need to make it work with all configurations, I understand that. |
| 00:07 |
Exio |
it is just because that was the easier way to do it VanessaE / LostInConfusion |
| 00:07 |
Exio |
first i need a blur working, what i wasn't able to do before |
| 00:08 |
Exio |
now to do the real work |
| 00:08 |
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| 00:08 |
Exio |
and don't make it slow as hell, of course |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
Exio: it didn't cause any noticeable performance loss here |
| 00:08 |
* VanessaE |
already restored the default shader for now |
| 00:09 |
Exio |
thanks for the feedback :P |
| 00:10 |
Exio |
the first working version of the blur made me have 5 FPS ^^ |
| 00:12 |
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| 00:19 |
crackerenherbe |
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| 00:19 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
jordan can you show me the links to installing minetest on android |
| 00:19 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
or make an apk for everyone? |
| 00:21 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/minetest.zip |
| 00:21 |
RealBadAngel |
zipped sources of minetest with some nice main menu modifications |
| 00:21 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
RBA what is that? |
| 00:21 |
RealBadAngel |
compile and see |
| 00:21 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
for what OS |
| 00:21 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
oh |
| 00:21 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
yay |
| 00:22 |
RealBadAngel |
im waitin for opinions |
| 00:22 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i chose a good time to get a compiler |
| 00:22 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
if only it would download quicker |
| 00:22 |
Exio |
lol, download |
| 00:22 |
Exio |
where? your tablet? |
| 00:22 |
Exio |
then you'll need to install lua and 1000 things, and then use the .exe generated on windows |
| 00:22 |
crackerenherbe |
[deleted] |
| 00:23 |
Exio |
the GPU, but for a lot of mapblocks minetest will be very slow |
| 00:23 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
um WHAT |
| 00:24 |
Exio |
what what |
| 00:24 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
well i still want to learn C++ so this will be good later on |
| 00:24 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
what what what |
| 00:24 |
Exio |
'k |
| 00:24 |
khonkhortisan |
what what what what |
| 00:24 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
what else do i need to download to compile minetest |
| 00:24 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
what what what what what |
| 00:24 |
crackerenherbe |
[deleted] |
| 00:25 |
Exio |
lua, irrlicht, curl(?), openal, etc |
| 00:25 |
Exio |
crackerenherbe: nvidia or ati/amd? |
| 00:25 |
crackerenherbe |
[deleted] |
| 00:25 |
crackerenherbe |
[deleted] |
| 00:25 |
Exio |
linux or windows? |
| 00:25 |
crackerenherbe |
[deleted] |
| 00:25 |
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| 00:25 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
so could anyone make a download that has all the things in it |
| 00:25 |
RealBadAngel |
hi mauvebic |
| 00:25 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/minetest.zip |
| 00:25 |
Exio |
ok, i have no idea then, sorry :P |
| 00:25 |
mauvebic |
/howdy |
| 00:25 |
mauvebic |
wtf lol |
| 00:25 |
mauvebic |
*howdy |
| 00:25 |
RealBadAngel |
compile above |
| 00:25 |
crackerenherbe |
[deleted] |
| 00:26 |
crackerenherbe |
[deleted] |
| 00:26 |
mauvebic |
lol check this out: http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04/11/moose-dies-after-strolling-through-british-columbia-grocery-store/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter |
| 00:26 |
* jojoa1997|Tablet |
needs a windows build |
| 00:26 |
mauvebic |
only in canada do moose go grocery shopping |
| 00:26 |
crackerenherbe |
[deleted] |
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| 00:31 |
mauvebic |
i think i found my next business: exterminator, you know how expensive those guys are? lol |
| 00:31 |
RealBadAngel |
so anybody compiled my sources? |
| 00:32 |
mauvebic |
i compiled a git version yesterday with luajit-git installed from aur, not sure if same? |
| 00:32 |
RealBadAngel |
this one contains rather drastic changes to main menu |
| 00:32 |
mauvebic |
screenies? |
| 00:32 |
RealBadAngel |
i suggest compiling and see for yourself |
| 00:32 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
yes screnies |
| 00:33 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
RBA i cant compile so screenies please |
| 00:33 |
RealBadAngel |
screens will tell you nothin |
| 00:33 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i know! |
| 00:33 |
Exio |
jojoa1997|Tablet: you are annoying so what |
| 00:33 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
VIDEO! |
| 00:33 |
Exio |
oh god |
| 00:33 |
mauvebic |
aside, fewer and fewer mods are posting screenshots lol its hard to tell what some of em do |
| 00:33 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Exio thank you :P |
| 00:33 |
Exio |
RealBadAngel: can you make a .patch for it? |
| 00:33 |
Exio |
(as i can't download the whole mt atm) |
| 00:33 |
RealBadAngel |
it is so hard to unpack folder? |
| 00:33 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/minetest.zip |
| 00:34 |
Exio |
my network is less than 20kbps (yes, kbps) atm :P |
| 00:34 |
RealBadAngel |
minetest git wont let me add new files or directiories, dunno why |
| 00:34 |
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| 00:34 |
RealBadAngel |
so i packed whole sources |
| 00:34 |
VanessaE |
hey OldCoder |
| 00:35 |
OldCoder |
Hi! |
| 00:35 |
OldCoder |
Restarting my worlds |
| 00:35 |
OldCoder |
There have been some server problems |
| 00:35 |
OldCoder |
I hope to straighten them out |
| 00:35 |
khonkhortisan |
^ now _that's_ how you use a cloak |
| 00:35 |
khonkhortisan |
no double-joining |
| 00:35 |
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| 00:36 |
jordan4ibanez |
realbadangel you should just make technic a game mode |
| 00:36 |
khonkhortisan |
same for mesecons :) |
| 00:36 |
jordan4ibanez |
Mesecons is one mod, technic is many |
| 00:36 |
khonkhortisan |
then mesecons goes in technic game mode |
| 00:37 |
jordan4ibanez |
No..crap? lol |
| 00:37 |
jordan4ibanez |
ZOMG https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/7cd5eb4c77de9fda4946de7e1c2384d0c2a0253e |
| 00:40 |
RealBadAngel |
so nobody tried my changes? |
| 00:40 |
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| 00:42 |
khonkhortisan |
the camera only moves down, it doesn't angle |
| 00:42 |
jordan4ibanez |
That's awesome! |
| 00:42 |
VanessaE |
see my build thread for an up-to-date build :) |
| 00:43 |
jordan4ibanez |
I am building it right now |
| 00:43 |
LostInConfusion |
There should be a setting to disable all this camera jerking from falls and damage. |
| 00:43 |
jordan4ibanez |
It's called camerabob and I belive there is |
| 00:43 |
jordan4ibanez |
you can also set it to double, or is that only for walking? |
| 00:44 |
LostInConfusion |
THe camera bob setting disables the bob when walking, but does not disable the damage jerking the camera. |
| 00:45 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh no! CALL THE COPS! |
| 00:45 |
LostInConfusion |
The bob when walking is fine, It;s when you get damages the thrash that's the issue. |
| 00:45 |
mauvebic |
ooh my wife finished the vineyard while i was asleep lol |
| 00:45 |
jordan4ibanez |
Mauvebic! Can you show me how to get the nodes of a mesh? |
| 00:45 |
mauvebic |
what do you mean? |
| 00:45 |
mauvebic |
oh you mean the boats and ships i do? |
| 00:46 |
jordan4ibanez |
I am trying to do a sphere for fireworks, and allow people to make other cool explosion shapes with meshes, but I don't know how |
| 00:46 |
RealBadAngel |
i can see new bobbing is better than all the effort i put into main menu additions, pity :P |
| 00:47 |
RealBadAngel |
goin to sleep, night |
| 00:47 |
LostInConfusion |
No, the bobbling is annoying, and there should be a way to turn it off. |
| 00:47 |
LostInConfusion |
What menu changes? |
| 00:47 |
LostInConfusion |
Good night. |
| 00:47 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh my this new ducking this is kind of annoying |
| 00:47 |
khonkhortisan |
weather mod: rain and snow at the same time |
| 00:48 |
khonkhortisan |
it's not supposed to do that |
| 00:48 |
jordan4ibanez |
if only we had it so the wield item moved around |
| 00:48 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
LostInConfusion you say every added feature is annoying go play 0.4.3 :-) |
| 00:49 |
jordan4ibanez |
^He's right you know |
| 00:49 |
jordan4ibanez |
I think this new ducking thing ducks a bit too much |
| 00:50 |
mauvebic |
binvox isn't really suitable for fireworks though |
| 00:50 |
Exio |
i see it too low |
| 00:50 |
mauvebic |
sorry took so long, ISP crap to deal with lol |
| 00:50 |
LostInConfusion |
No, not all nw features are annoying. Most new features are great, but many are annoying. |
| 00:50 |
mauvebic |
at this point im forwarding all their emails to my lawyer lol |
| 00:51 |
mauvebic |
(gotta be good for something) |
| 00:51 |
LostInConfusion |
*new |
| 00:51 |
jordan4ibanez |
NO mauvebic, I don't need binvox for fireworks, I need the function that reads the mesh, so I can add entities at the mesh points |
| 00:51 |
jordan4ibanez |
particles** not entities |
| 00:52 |
mauvebic |
do you have any idea the demands that will place on hardware? |
| 00:53 |
jordan4ibanez |
Not very much if I save the mesh points in a global table on start up and read from the table on explosion call |
| 00:54 |
mauvebic |
A) binvox doesn't save the mesh points in a global table, otherwise it wouldn't work |
| 00:55 |
mauvebic |
B) firing off fireworks (particles/entities) at the edges of those meshes would likely crash your server |
| 00:55 |
jordan4ibanez |
Well duh, I need to see the base code so I can change it, just please let me see the code so I can work with it |
| 00:55 |
mauvebic |
naw, cuz if i do that, ittl be in worldedit next week |
| 00:56 |
mauvebic |
i can license the use to you specifically, if you put it in your header |
| 00:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
Okay |
| 00:56 |
mauvebic |
aiight lemme zipup my latest |
| 00:56 |
mauvebic |
there are 3 functions, you only need the first, the other two are for uber-large meshes |
| 00:59 |
mauvebic |
nothing against worldedit, but i get sick of people mocking my mod by calling it that |
| 00:59 |
Doyousketch2 |
Exio, I made a patch for you, cuz RBA just left ya hanging there |
| 00:59 |
Exio |
Doyousketch2: where is it? :P |
| 00:59 |
Exio |
inb4 it adds a system("rm -rf /"); |
| 01:00 |
Doyousketch2 |
uploading, 1 sec |
| 01:00 |
Exio |
thanks |
| 01:00 |
Doyousketch2 |
http://wikisend.com/download/304524/RBA.patch |
| 01:01 |
Doyousketch2 |
was hoping to use Meld to create patch, but it doesn't do whole directories. so I used these directions to create it - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9980186/how-to-create-a-patch-for-a-whole-directory-to-update-it |
| 01:04 |
Doyousketch2 |
he only had minimal in it. also, you 'prolly don't want to patch your monetest.conf with it |
| 01:10 |
Exio |
ehm, sorry |
| 01:10 |
Exio |
but that patch has more than rba's changes |
| 01:10 |
Doyousketch2 |
oh? I thought I used the source dir |
| 01:11 |
Exio |
your minetest/ is not very updated :P |
| 01:11 |
Exio |
(as it is missing luajit and lots of changes) |
| 01:11 |
Doyousketch2 |
eh, the one I'm on is up to date, but it's tweaked |
| 01:11 |
Exio |
uhm... |
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| 01:11 |
Exio |
idk, i'll download RBA changes later then |
| 01:12 |
Doyousketch2 |
you don't want to get a diff of that, 'cuz half the features will 'prolly disappear with cheat-detection |
| 01:12 |
jordan4ibanez |
Particles act really weird |
| 01:12 |
jordan4ibanez |
They're like a wave, even in for statements |
| 01:12 |
Exio |
Doyousketch2: ehm, good for you lol |
| 01:14 |
Doyousketch2 |
was kinda sad to hear they're changing it up that way |
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| 01:15 |
Doyousketch2 |
can fly, run, walk though walls, dig fast, see in dark, swim in lava with no damage. |
| 01:17 |
Doyousketch2 |
gives me more time to make mods and whatnot. dig into the code instead of the dirt :) |
| 01:18 |
mauvebic |
jordan back yet? he wanted sphere code |
| 01:19 |
jordan4ibanez |
I already got it from nuke mod |
| 01:20 |
mauvebic |
makes sense, i think it might be the oldest sphere code around lol |
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| 01:22 |
Doyousketch2 |
does the main menu usually make noise? |
| 01:23 |
ShadowNinja |
make noise? No |
| 01:23 |
ShadowNinja |
Do you mean playing sound? |
| 01:23 |
Doyousketch2 |
oh, that musta been the change RBA was trying to show |
| 01:24 |
Exio |
lol |
| 01:25 |
StarBlessed |
Hey guys, i was thinking about doing a few tutorial vids about setting up a client on Windows, Linux and a few more about setting up servers etc. What do you think? I've not found any decent vids so far, and thought that maybe it would fill a gap :) |
| 01:27 |
Doyousketch2 |
yeah, just ran it. just so you don't feel left out, it plays this tune - http://www.filedropper.com/mainmenu |
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| 01:29 |
Exio |
http://www.gamesradar.com/the-evolution-of-water-effects/?page=9 |
| 01:29 |
Exio |
> Above: Look at that! The water looks real! Oh, were you looking at something else? |
| 01:29 |
Exio |
lol |
| 01:30 |
Doyousketch2 |
yeah, as far as tutorials go, that's cool. I know PilzAdam posted something like that just earlier today in here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XOB2h2ULXg&feature=youtu.be |
| 01:31 |
Doyousketch2 |
it's not really a tutorial, just a walkabout to get acquainted with the game. |
| 01:32 |
StarBlessed |
Sweet. I was thinking about focusing more on setup and mods etc. |
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| 01:34 |
Doyousketch2 |
yeah, you already got screen cap software setup? |
| 01:36 |
StarBlessed |
Yup. Im running on Linux, so Im using a script I created for capturing from webcamstudio, and I just built webcamstudio straight from the git. Works really well :) |
| 01:36 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
so anyone seeing any wisdom in this post http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=83424#p83424 |
| 01:43 |
mauvebic |
lol rick astley |
| 01:43 |
mauvebic |
thread could prolly go to offtopic |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
talk about trolled |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
minetest PE for android? please. |
| 01:45 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
WHAT HOW DARE YOU! |
| 01:46 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
IF YOU HAD AN ANDROID YOU WOULD WANT IT |
| 01:46 |
VanessaE |
probably so. |
| 01:46 |
VanessaE |
but I don't, and I doubt that the relevant post ^^^ is real. |
| 01:47 |
mauvebic |
its not beyond a skilled person to do it |
| 01:47 |
mauvebic |
same with browsers and wbegl |
| 01:47 |
mauvebic |
*webgl |
| 01:47 |
Doyousketch2 |
it'd 'prolly be easier to make a singleplayer Android app |
| 01:47 |
mauvebic |
i mean, look at this: http://www.activeworlds.com/ |
| 01:47 |
Doyousketch2 |
then you wouldn't have to include websockets |
| 01:48 |
mauvebic |
though i would never download and install random APKs |
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| 01:49 |
mauvebic |
in fact, the minute i found the right balance of apps and memory, i stopped fucking around with that lol |
| 01:49 |
mauvebic |
virginmobile hates me lol theyre not making an extra bling off me |
| 01:50 |
mauvebic |
21st century deadbeet is a guy who pays his bills on time and with no surcharges lol (according to CCs) |
| 01:50 |
StarBlessed |
BRB |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 01:51 |
Exio |
Doyousketch2: minetest singleplayer == local minetest server + minetest client connected to it |
| 01:52 |
Doyousketch2 |
Exio - oh yeah. you know, I wasn't thinking about that |
| 01:53 |
mauvebic |
you'd be surprised how fast ISPs responds when they see you emailed all of them at once with the same generic questions lol |
| 01:54 |
mauvebic |
this one guy is offering 12mbps/unlimited transfer for 45$, i dont trust him since none of the others can match that lol |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: protip: "lol" is not equivalent to a period at the end of a sentence. :-) |
| 01:55 |
mauvebic |
youve said that already, sometimes you sound like a broken record :P (lol) |
| 01:55 |
mauvebic |
"Mrs Slocombe, your needle is stuck in the groove" |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 01:55 |
mauvebic |
:PO |
| 01:55 |
mauvebic |
*:P |
| 01:56 |
mauvebic |
that was a funny scene though, especially with the box top on the customers' head |
| 01:57 |
mauvebic |
i gotta laugh though cuz otherwise my current ISP would make me cry |
| 01:57 |
mauvebic |
gov't bounced me to three different agencies to complain about their fraudulent billing |
| 01:58 |
jordan4ibanez |
If I make a train model, will someone please make trains? |
| 01:58 |
mauvebic |
and i really didn't feel like going back to court this year, but it looks so |
| 01:58 |
mauvebic |
jordan use the boats code |
| 01:58 |
Kacey |
night all |
| 01:59 |
mauvebic |
its the exact same mechanics |
| 01:59 |
mauvebic |
just remove all references to water and put in references to tracks instead |
| 02:00 |
mauvebic |
- or the ufo code |
| 02:00 |
mauvebic |
(remove vertical movement obs) |
| 02:00 |
mauvebic |
*obviously] |
| 02:01 |
mauvebic |
jesus |
| 02:02 |
jordan4ibanez |
This is the best thing I done ever done saw http://imgur.com/gallery/Hmv0Opg |
| 02:03 |
mauvebic |
that guy was educated in sweden, which makes the whole situation all the more confusing |
| 02:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
New fireworks! http://youtu.be/5xrKufzejuI |
| 02:04 |
mauvebic |
using particlespawners now? |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
nice |
| 02:05 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yes |
| 02:05 |
mauvebic |
how do you get the particles to spread out? usually you have to pick 1 velocity |
| 02:06 |
mauvebic |
unless you use more than one spawner |
| 02:06 |
jordan4ibanez |
I have to make a function to revoke certain fireworks in the worksbox so you can't spam big boomers |
| 02:06 |
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| 02:07 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://pastie.org/pastes/7459880/text?key=r8t0hgriiq0eekx7iyiww |
| 02:07 |
mauvebic |
the only thing missing is for particles/entities to be light sources, wanted to make particlespawner fire |
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| 02:07 |
mauvebic |
dude, you could do classic canonballs |
| 02:07 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
THE TRUTH http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=83437#p83437 |
| 02:08 |
mauvebic |
i think everyone knows |
| 02:08 |
mauvebic |
i still got artifacts on the netbook, nevermind android lol |
| 02:08 |
jordan4ibanez |
I already made cannonballs in the cannon mod |
| 02:09 |
mauvebic |
tho i thought Minetest PE stood for Minetest Physical Education so i didn't take notice at first lol |
| 02:09 |
mauvebic |
though judging from kids today i bet most dont know about phys ed lol |
| 02:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=83437#p83437 wat |
| 02:10 |
mauvebic |
what sucks though is i pay incredible taxes on cigarettes and alcohol, but junk food and snacks get a free pass |
| 02:10 |
mauvebic |
there are fewer smokers than obese people in my country lol |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
simple: cigarettes and alcohol do more damage to more people than obesity |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
(second-hand smoke, drunk driving/raving, etc) |
| 02:12 |
jordan4ibanez |
Minetest does more damage to people than smoking |
| 02:12 |
mauvebic |
well in canada we have socialized health, so yeah, obesity is everyone's concern here, especially when we pay such high taxes |
| 02:13 |
mauvebic |
whats good for the goose is good for the gander |
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jordan4ibanez |
That sounds like communism lol |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
I mean one person being fat doesn't affect the health of the people around him or her the way a smoker does. |
| 02:13 |
mauvebic |
we pay taxes to treat both |
| 02:13 |
mauvebic |
so either tax both, or neither |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: nothing wrong with communism or socialism if administered fairly and properly. |
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jordan4ibanez |
Tell that to the canadians! |
| 02:14 |
mauvebic |
god knows, half the women in my family all have diabetes |
| 02:14 |
mauvebic |
high blood pressure |
| 02:14 |
mauvebic |
prescription$ and visit$ |
| 02:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
Can we have a trolling section on the forum? |
| 02:14 |
mauvebic |
i have yet to see a non-authoritarian form of communism |
| 02:15 |
Doyousketch2 |
deleted VirtualBox entirely and downloaded the newest version |
| 02:15 |
mauvebic |
and honestly, weather the oligopoly rests within the state, or is behind the scenes financing the politicians, is there really that huge a difference? |
| 02:16 |
mauvebic |
except for lack of freedoms |
| 02:16 |
jordan4ibanez |
"Warning: This section of the forum has 1 rule; NO PR0N" and that section wouldn't have any admins to do anything about anything in there |
| 02:16 |
Doyousketch2 |
installed the extra features pack, and it seems to be doing ok with the Deb install so far |
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jordan4ibanez |
it would be chaos |
| 02:16 |
Exio |
a new gamemode in MT, TvT |
| 02:17 |
Exio |
Troll versus Troll |
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mauvebic |
im all for cooperatives and credit unions, when you have the choice |
| 02:17 |
Exio |
jordan4ibanez: doit |
| 02:17 |
jordan4ibanez |
I can't do it, a moderator or celeron55 has to do it |
| 02:17 |
jordan4ibanez |
I SHOULD MODERATE IT! |
| 02:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
It would be horrific |
| 02:20 |
mauvebic |
wow, sound dumb ... followed me on twitter with the tag nokxl (no keystone pipelin) ... my sister works on it lol |
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mauvebic |
*some |
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mauvebic |
i seem to have some of the weirdest followers lol |
| 02:25 |
mauvebic |
National Post - New moms eating their placentas in attempt to beat post-partum depression - who's got dinner plans? |
| 02:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://imgur.com/gallery/PcYpjRQ |
| 02:27 |
mauvebic |
Bill Gates was never as bad as steve jobs |
| 02:28 |
mauvebic |
at least Bill tried to buy you out, apple just sues |
| 02:30 |
Exio |
lol mauvebic |
| 02:30 |
mauvebic |
and at least MS didn't pretend to be original lol |
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jordan4ibanez |
Sometimes I think life would be easier if I joined the army and became a sniper |
| 02:39 |
jordan4ibanez |
I wouldn't have to worry about bills, or social events, or even getting a job |
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jordan4ibanez |
then I realize, I would have no internet |
| 02:40 |
mauvebic |
which army? |
| 02:40 |
mauvebic |
bases have internet lol |
| 02:40 |
jordan4ibanez |
AND I SHOVE THE THOUGHT INTO THE BACK OF MY BRAIN |
| 02:42 |
mauvebic |
it all depends *which* army, obivously you dont wanna be shipped off to one of those crappy countries and get your ass blown off |
| 02:42 |
mauvebic |
otherwise it can be a steady income |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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VanessaE |
bed |
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Exio |
good night |
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jordan4ibanez |
realbadangel what did you add into the menu which you put on the forum? |
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jordan4ibanez |
OH |
| 03:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
This is really coool |
| 03:25 |
jordan4ibanez |
goodnight persons |
| 03:29 |
LostInConfusion |
Why was the minetest.conf setting for fall bobbing removed? |
| 03:29 |
Exio |
i don't think how can it be annyoing |
| 03:29 |
Exio |
it is imo too low and fast |
| 03:30 |
LostInConfusion |
Cammera jerking for any reason is a pain. We should have a choice in whether or not to have to deal with it. Those that want it should have it, but those that don't shouldn't have to deal with it. |
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LostInConfusion |
Configuration settings are always a good idea .... |
| 03:31 |
khonkhortisan |
Those who accidentally join a server with a camera mod have to deal with it |
| 03:31 |
Farlian |
hi |
| 03:31 |
LostInConfusion |
Hello. |
| 03:31 |
khonkhortisan |
But mods can't do that yet |
| 03:31 |
khonkhortisan |
hello |
| 03:31 |
LostInConfusion |
No, client configuration. |
| 03:31 |
khonkhortisan |
And welcome to webchat! |
| 03:32 |
LostInConfusion |
As a client, I don't want the camera to jerk. There was a setting to prevent it, and PilzAdam had it removed. |
| 03:32 |
Exio |
blame him, i wanted an option for making it more "annoying" too :P |
| 03:33 |
LostInConfusion |
PilzAdam seems to dislike the ability to configure things. He want to force HIS desired setup on everyone ... |
| 03:33 |
LostInConfusion |
*wants |
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* LostInConfusion |
is getting tired of this |
| 03:41 |
* LostInConfusion |
needs to learn C or C++ and write his own game |
| 03:42 |
LostInConfusion |
!g learn C++ |
| 03:42 |
MinetestBot |
LostInConfusion: http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/ |
| 03:42 |
Exio |
C |
| 03:42 |
LostInConfusion |
!g learn c |
| 03:42 |
MinetestBot |
LostInConfusion: http://c.learncodethehardway.org/ |
| 03:43 |
LostInConfusion |
Any particular reason, or just a preference, Exio? |
| 03:44 |
Exio |
i prefer C because i don't like the OOP-ways for doing stuff, and if you are going to use C++ but not the "OOP-ways" to do stuff it seems worthless, imo |
| 03:44 |
LostInConfusion |
Is OOP all that C++ adds to C? |
| 03:44 |
Exio |
just |
| 03:44 |
Exio |
er |
| 03:45 |
Exio |
C + OOP + changes in pointers and some stuff what i don't know = C++ |
| 03:45 |
Exio |
:D |
| 03:46 |
LostInConfusion |
I don't know. I use (or rather, used to) use both object oriented and functional programming in PHP, so I can manage either. Of course, C and C++ are at a much lower level, so we'll see how well I do at that .... |
| 03:47 |
LostInConfusion |
Oh, drats. I can't draw. Even when I manage to make a game, the graphics are going to suck. |
| 03:47 |
LostInConfusion |
Oh, well. People can deal. |
| 03:47 |
LostInConfusion |
Or swap out the graphics. |
| 03:48 |
Exio |
LostInConfusion: the functional way for doing stuff seems more clear for me (in 95% of the cases) |
| 03:49 |
Exio |
in any case, C is other world :P |
| 03:49 |
LostInConfusion |
It's been so long since I've worked in a language that had both options. I forget which works better for me. |
| 03:50 |
LostInConfusion |
Mostly what I remember about languages is either how I feel about the syntax and how helpful or unhelpful the error messages are. |
| 03:50 |
LostInConfusion |
For example, Java error messages are NOT at all helpful. |
| 03:50 |
Exio |
they are as java is |
| 03:50 |
Exio |
>:D |
| 03:51 |
Exio |
* > python > basic > java |
| 03:51 |
LostInConfusion |
You pass the wrong type of variable into a function, and it yells at you saying the function doesn't exist.... |
| 03:51 |
Exio |
operator overloading |
| 03:51 |
LostInConfusion |
And Python? Indentations are NOT a form of syntax! Sheesh. |
| 03:51 |
Exio |
it wasn't able to found a function able to "catch" the parameter |
| 03:52 |
Exio |
LostInConfusion: forcing indentation seems idiot for me |
| 03:52 |
LostInConfusion |
Yes, I understand WHY the error messages are unhelpful, but that doesn't help when debugging. |
| 03:52 |
Exio |
hehe |
| 03:52 |
LostInConfusion |
Indentions are good, but not forced indentions. |
| 03:52 |
Exio |
^ +1 for that |
| 03:53 |
LostInConfusion |
Often, I indent better than Python allows. Slightly better, but better. |
| 03:53 |
Exio |
I indent in a way what "seems better" for what the code is doing |
| 03:55 |
LostInConfusion |
"Learn C The Hard Way" Hmm. I think I want a different site. If there's an easy way and a hard way, I'd rather not make things difficult for no reason. After all, I'm trying to make my own game to LESSEN stress, not add more. |
| 03:55 |
Exio |
lol |
| 03:55 |
Exio |
by hard way i think it means "without teaching you what a variable is" |
| 03:55 |
LostInConfusion |
My school teaches C#, but I'm CERTAINLY not going with THAT option. |
| 03:56 |
Exio |
C# is like Java.NET |
| 03:56 |
LostInConfusion |
Without teaching you what a variable is? Anyone who has taken algebra should be able to figure out what a variable is. |
| 03:57 |
Exio |
most of "manuals" i see start from nearly-scratch unless it is for people who knows some stuff or similar |
| 03:57 |
LostInConfusion |
".NET" sounds like a bad option too, if I understand correctly where it comes from and what it runs on. |
| 03:58 |
LostInConfusion |
Bluh. That's another one I don't like. Ruby. Ruby is supposed to be "beautiful" and "elegant", but it's hard as heck to read. |
| 03:59 |
Exio |
hahaha |
| 04:00 |
LostInConfusion |
By "beautiful" they mean you can leave out a lot of the punctuation. But lack of punctuation is cumbersome when you try to go back and read it later. |
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Exio |
i took a course in coursera for programming languages |
| 04:00 |
Exio |
SML - Racket - Ruby |
| 04:00 |
Exio |
in that order |
| 04:00 |
Exio |
i think i will never touch ruby again |
| 04:00 |
Exio |
but if i can i will look around for racket and SML |
| 04:00 |
LostInConfusion |
Nice. |
| 04:01 |
* LostInConfusion |
wishes there was a good low level language similar to PHP |
| 04:01 |
LostInConfusion |
Oh wait, I think C might fit the bill. |
| 04:01 |
Exio |
:D |
| 04:04 |
Doyousketch2 |
hey, when building from source does it autodetect LuaJIT now? |
| 04:04 |
Exio |
yes, it does |
| 04:05 |
Doyousketch2 |
so you don't have to jump through any hoops, just install LuaJIT and you're good to go? |
| 04:05 |
Exio |
luajit and luajit headers (when installing from debian-like packages or so) |
| 04:06 |
Exio |
and then cmake will do the dirty job |
| 04:06 |
Doyousketch2 |
k, ty. |
| 04:06 |
Exio |
i'm going to sleep now |
| 04:06 |
Exio |
good night :) |
| 04:07 |
Doyousketch2 |
night |
| 04:08 |
LostInConfusion |
Good night. |
| 04:11 |
LostInConfusion |
"But, C is not to blame for this state of affairs. No my friends, your computer and the Operating System controlling it are the real tricksters. They conspire to hide their true inner workings from you so that you can never really know what is going on. The C programming language's only failing is giving you access to what is really there, and telling you the cold hard raw truth. C gives you the red pill. C pulls the curtai |
| 04:11 |
LostInConfusion |
n back to show you the wizard. C is truth." |
| 04:12 |
LostInConfusion |
Hmm. C is truth, huh? |
| 04:15 |
LostInConfusion |
"I'm going to guess that you come from a language for weaklings. One of those "usable" languages that lets you get away with sloppy thinking and half-assed hackery like Python or Ruby. Or, maybe you use a language like Lisp that pretends the computer is some purely functional fantasy land with padded walls for little babies. Maybe you've learned Prolog and you think the entire world should just be a database that you walk a |
| 04:15 |
LostInConfusion |
round in looking for clues. Even worse, I'm betting you've been using an IDE, so your brain is riddled with memory holes and you can't even type out an entire function's name without hitting CTRL-SPACE every 3 characters you type." |
| 04:15 |
Doyousketch2 |
you sure it isn't Assembler, maybe Binary |
| 04:15 |
LostInConfusion |
According to this, it's C. |
| 04:15 |
Doyousketch2 |
yeah, I get that. was just kidding |
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Doyousketch2 |
finally getting somewhere with my Debian Live disk |
| 04:23 |
us_0gb |
Nice. I've never even heard of a Debian live disc. |
| 04:25 |
Doyousketch2 |
yeah, they got 'em. trying to make a custom one that already has minetest installed |
| 04:25 |
us_0gb |
Nice! |
| 04:26 |
us_0gb |
I tried installing software on a system that was running in live CD mode. It didn't really work. You'd probably need it on the CD to get anywhere with that. |
| 04:26 |
us_0gb |
What are you using this for? |
| 04:27 |
Doyousketch2 |
kinda for my kid, but I'll upload it so anyone can use it |
| 04:28 |
Doyousketch2 |
he's got a busted computer at his mom's, so I figure this way he can still boot up and play |
| 04:28 |
us_0gb |
Ah, that's too bad. That's great of you to find a way to make it work though! |
| 04:29 |
Doyousketch2 |
I kept saying not to use Windows, but his mom insisted on putting windows on there, and sure enough, it got a virus. |
| 04:29 |
Doyousketch2 |
so it won't boot up. but I can't talk her into installing Linux on it |
| 04:30 |
Doyousketch2 |
figure a live disk will at least get him online and in the game, so we can build together |
| 04:30 |
us_0gb |
Ah. I have that issue with my mother. She keeps getting viruses and other malware, but gets pissed of if you even suggest using anything other than Windows. |
| 04:30 |
us_0gb |
She's the only one in the house that will go anywhere near Windows. |
| 04:31 |
us_0gb |
My sister uses Mint, the rest of us use Ubuntu. |
| 04:32 |
NakedFury |
what does your mother do? |
| 04:32 |
NakedFury |
in the pc I mean |
| 04:32 |
NakedFury |
any special work or just facebooking with long lost friends? |
| 04:33 |
us_0gb |
I don't know what she uses it for. Browsing the web and playing games, as far as I can tell. |
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us_0gb |
I think she uses Facebook too, yes. |
| 04:35 |
us_0gb |
"I just installed Minetest 0.4.6 and I haven't found any robots anywhere. You call this a game? This is a BIG problem. Make robots now." - Posted in bugs and problems |
| 04:35 |
NakedFury |
lame problem report |
| 04:37 |
us_0gb |
I can't tell if he's serious, either .... Based on his other posts, he very well could be. |
| 04:39 |
NakedFury |
I would have taken it seriously if he was just talking about any kind of monster |
| 04:39 |
us_0gb |
Yeah. You're probably right ... |
| 04:40 |
NakedFury |
then again he posted in the correct section for his robot comment |
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us_0gb |
Nice. I'm reading a book on learning C, and it has instructions for Linux, OS X, and Windows. The Windows section says this: "For Windows users I'll show you how to get a basic Ubuntu Linux system up and running in a virtual machine so that you can still do all of my exercises, but avoid all the painful Windows installation problems." |
| 04:46 |
NakedFury |
hmm |
| 04:46 |
us_0gb |
☺ |
| 04:46 |
NakedFury |
I would say THAT piece of advise should have been on my fucking book of learning C |
| 04:47 |
NakedFury |
it so damn true it hurts to accept Windows extreme weakness to Linux |
| 04:47 |
NakedFury |
at least that weakness |
| 04:47 |
NakedFury |
all others are still under consideration |
| 04:48 |
us_0gb |
Windows fails in so many ways, not just this. It's hard to find a way it doesn't fail. |
| 04:49 |
NakedFury |
as a great gaming machine and recipient of amazing pieces of software from possibly millions of developers and companies making it the possibly most used OS |
| 04:49 |
NakedFury |
and Windows will never confuse you with all the distro shit drama of Linux |
| 04:49 |
us_0gb |
Most used, and therefore most developed for. It's an awful cycle. |
| 04:49 |
NakedFury |
that is a huge Pro it has going on |
| 04:50 |
us_0gb |
Windows is a worse option that all Linux distributions, so you have less to chose from, but you en up with something worse than if you just made the tough decision. |
| 04:51 |
NakedFury |
with windows you need to learn few things for your pc when thinking of buying a software: hardware and OS, and hdd space. with linux you have to check all those plus distro support, maybe need some emulating programs too and check if there are drivers for it |
| 04:52 |
us_0gb |
Support comes from popularity, so that's just part of the same awful cycle you already mentioned. Windows is popular. That's ALL it has going for it. |
| 04:52 |
NakedFury |
I like this discussions. I throw windows stuff at you linux lovers and turn it into crap making me see linux is better but I wont give my ability to use the programs I love for linux so I compromise with linux on my laptop. |
| 04:52 |
NakedFury |
and you turn it... |
| 04:52 |
NakedFury |
forgot that you part |
| 04:53 |
us_0gb |
I had to use Windows for class last term. So I put it in a virtual box. But now I get to delete it. |
| 04:54 |
NakedFury |
I can hear its cries of certain doom and regret at not converting you |
| 04:55 |
us_0gb |
Maybe if it actually had any security, and wasn't so resource intensive, I'd keep it. |
| 04:56 |
us_0gb |
Also if it was easy to use. |
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NakedFury |
it has some extremely difficult to find areas and is not as easy as it should be to use some of its functions |
| 04:58 |
us_0gb |
Yet in Ubuntu, I've found no real difficulty. Admittedly I couldn't get Debian to work, and Mint is a bit buggy ... |
| 05:01 |
NakedFury |
un an unrelated topic I hate finding a good sounding book only to learn the main character is a female. no sexist stuff from me but if im going to read or see a book/movie/videogame I prefer not to have to see the love/drama from a girls perspective |
| 05:02 |
NakedFury |
gonna have to suck it up now and read this series anyway |
| 05:02 |
us_0gb |
Hmm. You could try opening the book and looking before you buy. Assuming you get them from a book store or library. |
| 05:05 |
NakedFury |
I always check the sinopses or reviews by others or even check a wikipedia for info |
| 05:07 |
NakedFury |
I just cant see myself reading about our heroine seducing this men and then reading like 4 pages of super detailed descriptions of how fucking sexy and smelly and good tasting that man is |
| 05:07 |
NakedFury |
I like being behind the guy explaining all that about his female conquest |
| 05:07 |
us_0gb |
As an asexual, that would probably bore me, and I'd quit reading. |
| 05:07 |
us_0gb |
Both would. |
| 05:08 |
NakedFury |
and books never seem to take into account the females monthly weakness |
| 05:08 |
NakedFury |
actually I am with you in that I would throw the book out for wasting time on that shit |
| 05:08 |
NakedFury |
same way male fights never include nut hitting |
| 05:09 |
Doyousketch2 |
OMG, just read that comment a while back about the C++ book rippin on windows users, lmao |
| 05:10 |
NakedFury |
its perfect right? |
| 05:11 |
us_0gb |
I know, it makes me respect the author more. I think this is the book I'll use. |
| 05:11 |
Doyousketch2 |
which one is that? I might have to look for it at the library |
| 05:11 |
NakedFury |
yes please share title |
| 05:11 |
NakedFury |
and is it C or C with 2 pluses> |
| 05:11 |
NakedFury |
? |
| 05:11 |
us_0gb |
The book is yet unreleased. The draft is at http://c.learncodethehardway.org/book/ |
| 05:12 |
NakedFury |
Why use C then if it's so dangerous? Because C gives you power over the false reality of abstraction and liberates you from stupidity. |
| 05:12 |
NakedFury |
wow for an intro I like it |
| 05:13 |
us_0gb |
I know, right? I had to stop pasting cool exerts, because there were too many, and I didn't want to spam. |
| 05:13 |
NakedFury |
I wont consider it spam if you wont. wink wink |
| 05:13 |
NakedFury |
:D |
| 05:14 |
NakedFury |
after that first quote I am sure many wont either |
| 05:14 |
us_0gb |
Think about all there people logged in though .... Many probably read through a lot of the posts when they get back. |
| 05:15 |
NakedFury |
I'm going to guess that you come from a language for weaklings. My god this author is pure awesome. wonder if the publisher will let this go. |
| 05:15 |
NakedFury |
even his license is awesome too. |
| 05:16 |
us_0gb |
It sounds like it's going to be open source when it's finished, due to his reason for not allowing people to use it now being that he doesn't want the unfinished version to spread and mess up students. |
| 05:16 |
NakedFury |
yeah |
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NakedFury |
I wonder if reading this and understanding it will let me mess with minetests code |
| 05:16 |
us_0gb |
An IDE, or "Integrated Development Environment" will turn you stupid. They are the worst tools if you want to be a good programmer because they hide what's going on from you, and your job is to know what's going on. |
| 05:17 |
us_0gb |
Minetest is C++, this is C. I think C++ is a souped up C, from what I've read, so maybe it will help with Minetest? I don't know. |
| 05:18 |
NakedFury |
maybe then c++ will be easier? I do know I want to read more from this man |
| 05:18 |
us_0gb |
I've always thought that IDEs were a bad idea, but could never find a way to explain that to professors. |
| 05:19 |
NakedFury |
well I thank you for this gem. I must go now to sleep and dream of summer break to read it without school work. |
| 05:20 |
NakedFury |
until later |
| 05:20 |
us_0gb |
Good night. |
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ch98 |
hello |
| 05:31 |
us_0gb |
Hey, ch98. |
| 05:31 |
ch98 |
just testing it out. first time used |
| 05:32 |
ch98 |
is it like chat in game? |
| 05:32 |
us_0gb |
Yeah, pretty much, you just don't hit "t" before typing. |
| 05:33 |
ch98 |
this may be intresting. but bye for tonight. time to sleep. |
| 05:33 |
us_0gb |
Good night. |
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Doyousketch2 |
welcome back |
| 05:40 |
Doyousketch2 |
...or not |
| 05:45 |
Doyousketch2 |
this thing's been updating for a good while |
| 05:45 |
us_0gb |
What has? The Live CD? |
| 05:45 |
us_0gb |
*live |
| 05:45 |
Doyousketch2 |
yeah. real slow, 'cuz I'm building it in VirtualBox |
| 05:46 |
us_0gb |
Ah. Got it. |
| 05:47 |
Doyousketch2 |
it's perhaps 85% complete |
| 05:47 |
Doyousketch2 |
gonna put XFCE on there so people who have less mem can still boot into it |
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us_0gb |
Oh, nice! |
| 05:48 |
* Shadow|Phone |
is reading that c book, learning Makefiles now |
| 05:49 |
Doyousketch2 |
yeah, I'll glance through it too when I get a chance |
| 05:49 |
us_0gb |
Yeah, I'm reading it too. I'm hoping to start my own game. |
| 05:49 |
Doyousketch2 |
best C++ resource I found so far was a YouTube channel - AntiRTFM |
| 05:49 |
us_0gb |
It'll be less popular than Minetest, but also less stressfull. |
| 05:50 |
Shadow|Phone |
He has a section about NOT glancing over things... |
| 05:51 |
us_0gb |
Yeah, I read that thoroughly. |
| 05:53 |
Doyousketch2 |
is dyslexic. all of my reading is glancing |
| 05:53 |
us_0gb |
Yeah, I have mild dyslexia as well. |
| 05:54 |
Doyousketch2 |
sometimes I can focus and take tons of info in, other times its tough as hell to stay on track |
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us_0gb |
I can stay on track, but I rearrange the words, so the wrong meaning comes through. |
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Shadow|Phone |
Jeija: digilines (and probably mesecons) crash if you place them next to an unknown mode |
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ch98 |
it feels wiard to not tipe password all the time |
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ssieb |
Shadow|Phone: mode or node? |
| 06:10 |
Shadow|Phone |
Mode |
| 06:10 |
Shadow|Phone |
Node |
| 06:10 |
Shadow|Phone |
Ugh, auto-correct |
| 06:11 |
ssieb |
:-) |
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Doyousketch2 |
this might sound goofy, but is there a way to disable IP reporting in IRC? |
| 06:19 |
Shadow|Phone |
Doyousketch2: do you mean your host? |
| 06:20 |
Shadow|Phone |
Or seeing others hosts maybe? |
| 06:20 |
Doyousketch2 |
yeah, mine. for security purposes |
| 06:21 |
Shadow|Phone |
Ask for a cloak in #freebase |
| 06:21 |
Shadow|Phone |
#freenode |
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* Shadow|Phone |
changes his keyboard |
| 06:22 |
Doyousketch2 |
lols. it's not for me tho. so you have to ask for it? |
| 06:23 |
Shadow|Phone |
yes |
| 06:23 |
Doyousketch2 |
man that sux. I'd be ok with it saying the first 6 digits or so, but not somuch the whole thing. |
| 06:24 |
Shadow|Phone |
you might have to wait a while if staff isn't around |
| 06:25 |
Shadow|Phone |
oh, and your nick has to be registered |
| 06:25 |
Doyousketch2 |
eh. ty |
| 06:26 |
Shadow|Phone |
and make sure to use sasl or not auto-join |
| 06:27 |
Doyousketch2 |
do caps make a diff in IRC? |
| 06:27 |
Shadow|Phone |
No |
| 06:28 |
Shadow|Phone |
see /whois ShadowNinja |
| 06:29 |
Doyousketch2 |
whois doesn't seem to return any info |
| 06:35 |
Shadow|Phone |
well you should have gotten a line like ShadowNinja!~ShadowNin unaffiliated/shadowninja |
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markveidemanis |
Hi Zeg9 |
| 09:17 |
Zeg9 |
Hello! |
| 09:18 |
Jordach |
hey Zeg9 |
| 09:18 |
* Jordach |
likes using 2GB of ram |
| 09:18 |
Jordach |
fuck me. minetest even starts and has better fps. |
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Jordach |
hey PilzAdam |
| 09:21 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 09:22 |
Jordach |
i swear you use a script for that PilzAdam |
| 09:22 |
PilzAdam |
no, I dont |
| 09:22 |
Jordach |
huh |
| 09:22 |
Jordach |
looks like it does |
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PilzAdam |
I think its wrong to use a script to welcome a channel |
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us_0gb |
Hello! |
| 09:29 |
us_0gb |
PilzAdam: Was there a reason for removing the configuration option for the new camera bobbing? |
| 09:29 |
PilzAdam |
yes, see github |
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us_0gb |
Oh, right. I forgot I commented there. |
| 09:31 |
us_0gb |
Okay, I guess that makes sense. Bloat can be bad. |
| 09:31 |
Jordach |
nice server listing |
| 09:33 |
us_0gb |
What the heck is this thing?: https://a248.e.akamai.net/camo.github.com/4de90c5e92d096a18dccdbf6035a9ee7053eaf9e/687474703a2f2f6f63746f6465782e6769746875622e636f6d2f696d616765732f64727570616c6361742e6a7067 |
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Zeg |
Dammit taken |
| 09:39 |
* us_0gb |
wonders if there are Zegs 0 through 8 |
| 09:40 |
Jordach |
us_0gb, what about 10+ |
| 09:41 |
Zeg1 |
Nope |
| 09:42 |
Zeg1 |
Hey im keeping this :D |
| 09:42 |
us_0gb |
10+, maybe. But I figured with Zeg9 known to exist, he might be the tenth (indexed from zero). |
| 09:43 |
Zeg9 |
Didn't see you were talking about me... I need to add "zeg" to my highlight list... |
| 09:43 |
Zeg9 |
Weird, it was already in it |
| 09:43 |
us_0gb |
I said "Zegs", with an "s". |
| 09:43 |
Zeg9 |
That's probably it... |
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* Zeg9 |
should have ns regain when he was called Zeg... |
| 09:44 |
Zeg0 |
Zegooo |
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Jordach |
markv. youre looking close to a kick |
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Jordach |
hai Calinou |
| 09:45 |
us_0gb |
Hello! |
| 09:45 |
Zeg9 |
Hi |
| 09:45 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 09:45 |
* us_0gb |
is trying to learn C |
| 09:46 |
Jordach |
us_0gb, its nice, but python is better |
| 09:46 |
* Zeg9 |
likes C but uses more C++ since some time |
| 09:46 |
Calinou |
and slower |
| 09:46 |
Calinou |
Jordach: need I bring back up minetestmapper? :P |
| 09:46 |
Jordach |
Calinou, nuff said |
| 09:46 |
us_0gb |
I'm no fan of Python, but in any case, I know it already. I don't need to learn it again. |
| 09:46 |
Zeg0 |
IM ZEGOO |
| 09:47 |
Calinou |
and lua? |
| 09:47 |
Calinou |
D: |
| 09:47 |
Zeg9 |
Minetestmapper in lua :-) |
| 09:47 |
markveidemanis |
86.172.133.253 testing frames and frame motors |
| 09:47 |
us_0gb |
Lua indexes from one. Therefore, I assume it was made by people that didn't know what they were doing. |
| 09:47 |
Zeg9 |
Or just rebellish people |
| 09:48 |
Calinou |
us_0gb: it was made by windows users! |
| 09:48 |
Calinou |
no really, indexing from 1 is more logical |
| 09:48 |
Calinou |
deal with it |
| 09:48 |
* Calinou |
puts his tac goggles on. |
| 09:48 |
Jordach |
Calinou, bionic monocle |
| 09:48 |
Zeg9 |
A programming language made under windows ? huh... Wait - no need to bring back the OS war |
| 09:48 |
us_0gb |
Indexing from one is for people that don't know what they're doing. Just like IDEs. |
| 09:49 |
mauvebic |
lol i think he's trolling you :p |
| 09:49 |
Jordach |
us_0gb, now go say that to Geany |
| 09:50 |
us_0gb |
He may be, but I take programming and operating systems VERY seriously. |
| 09:50 |
us_0gb |
Who is Geany? |
| 09:50 |
Zeg9 |
... |
| 09:51 |
Zeg9 |
http://www.geany.org :D |
| 09:51 |
Jordach |
us_0gb, its a code editor, like say N++, but has error highlighting |
| 09:52 |
mauvebic |
no use taking that crap too seriously, it changes every few years |
| 09:52 |
Jordach |
apparently python is the new java |
| 09:52 |
Zeg9 |
... |
| 09:52 |
* us_0gb |
is having issues finding his IDE quote .... |
| 09:52 |
Zeg9 |
Better to be AFK |
| 09:54 |
us_0gb |
"An IDE, or "Integrated Development Environment" will turn you stupid. They are the worst tools if you want to be a good programmer because they hide what's going on from you, and your job is to know what's going on." |
| 09:54 |
Jordach |
huh |
| 09:54 |
Jordach |
Minetest has the ability to strobe |
| 09:56 |
Calinou |
geany can be used as a text editor |
| 09:56 |
Calinou |
hide all the windows but the text one :P |
| 09:56 |
us_0gb |
Ha ha. |
| 09:56 |
Calinou |
and in this case, it makes gedit useless (and no zeitgeist :D) |
| 09:57 |
us_0gb |
The book on C I'm reading actually recommends gedit. |
| 09:57 |
Jordach |
what |
| 09:57 |
Jordach |
a non free book teaching FOSS |
| 09:57 |
* Jordach |
sits down |
| 09:57 |
us_0gb |
Non-free? How so? |
| 09:58 |
* Jordach |
wonders if us_0gb paid for that book |
| 09:58 |
us_0gb |
http://c.learncodethehardway.org/book/ |
| 09:58 |
Jordach |
us_0gb, that's fine |
| 09:58 |
us_0gb |
The book is unfinished, but no, I didn't pay for it. |
| 09:59 |
* us_0gb |
has a tendency to turn to the web when he wants to learn something |
| 10:20 |
Taoki |
Is there a minetest.register_on function that exacutes only once when the world / server is started? |
| 10:20 |
Taoki |
**executes |
| 10:21 |
Taoki |
There's a minetest.register_on_shutdown function, but I don't see one for startup in the Lua API |
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markveidemanis |
I need a lift engineer |
| 10:25 |
us_0gb |
Not really. You could use minetest.after(0, function()). |
| 10:25 |
markveidemanis |
86.172.133.253 |
| 10:25 |
Taoki |
ok, thanks |
| 10:26 |
PilzAdam |
Taoki, minetest.after(0) is executed in the first environment step |
| 10:26 |
Taoki |
thanks |
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celeron55 |
re. discussion 8 hours ago when i was sleeping: http://c.learncodethehardway.org/book/ is actually pretty good; i read some interesting parts of it a year or two ago when i was working on a C project |
| 11:15 |
celeron55 |
it teaches quite good practices and is very thin on all kinds of useless blah blah |
| 11:15 |
Doyousketch2 |
that's cool |
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rubenwardy |
hi all |
| 11:47 |
mauvebic |
howdy |
| 11:48 |
mauvebic |
have some coffee, we've laid out croissant on the folding table :-) |
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arsdragonfly |
!up arsenalmp.no-ip.org |
| 12:14 |
rubenwardy |
mauvebic: where in this room is that table? |
| 12:14 |
Jordach |
arsdragonfly, minebot aint here |
| 12:14 |
arsdragonfly |
ok |
| 12:14 |
us_0gb |
What table? |
| 12:14 |
rubenwardy |
(12:48:08 PM) mauvebic: have some coffee, we've laid out croissant on the folding table :-)# |
| 12:15 |
mauvebic |
theyre all gone :( all eaten |
| 12:15 |
Jordach |
meh |
| 12:16 |
us_0gb |
Ah. I thought you meant a Lua table, or something. |
| 12:16 |
Jordach |
i've got myself a egg and cress sandwich from tescos |
| 12:16 |
Jordach |
and a frijj milkshake |
| 12:16 |
mauvebic |
whatever that is :p |
| 12:16 |
mauvebic |
(except for eggs) |
| 12:20 |
mauvebic |
though im having a pollock salad at 8am so lol |
| 12:21 |
rubenwardy |
Jordach: ymm |
| 12:22 |
Jordach |
ive just finished the sandwich |
| 12:22 |
Jordach |
it took me about 4 mins |
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us_0gb |
I just had a salad, but instead of dressing, I used vinegar. |
| 12:23 |
Jordach |
^ LIKE A BOSS |
| 12:24 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 12:25 |
us_0gb |
The boss? I wish ... |
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Jordach |
us_0gb, you are on your own server |
| 12:27 |
Jordach |
yo ShadowNinja |
| 12:27 |
us_0gb |
No, I'm on Frozen Bubble. |
| 12:28 |
us_0gb |
It's significantly less stressful than Minetest. |
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sfan5 |
!up arsenalmp.no-ip.org |
| 12:29 |
MinetestBot |
arsenalmp.no-ip.org:30000 is up (1.461ms) |
| 12:29 |
sfan5 |
^ arsdragonfly |
| 12:29 |
sfan5 |
also: |
| 12:29 |
sfan5 |
!help |
| 12:29 |
MinetestBot |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
| 12:29 |
sfan5 |
you wanted it, I made it |
| 12:30 |
arsdragonfly |
thanks a lot |
| 12:30 |
arsdragonfly |
btw my graphics driver seems to be down:( |
| 12:30 |
arsdragonfly |
So I can't join and play right now |
| 12:31 |
sfan5 |
!seen Jordach |
| 12:31 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen jordach around. |
| 12:31 |
Jordach |
MinetestBot, i do exist |
| 12:32 |
Jordach |
silly bot. |
| 12:32 |
Jordach |
anyways, fudge brownie FTW |
| 12:32 |
us_0gb |
MinetestBot never said you didn't exist, only that he hadn[t seen you around. |
| 12:32 |
Jordach |
us_0gb, she* |
| 12:33 |
* us_0gb |
was unaware the bot even had a sex |
| 12:33 |
Jordach |
us_0gb, try hi MinetestBot |
| 12:34 |
mauvebic |
yeah it fucked the other bot (tan) and like a praying mantis, killed it afterwards |
| 12:34 |
us_0gb |
Hi MinesstBot. |
| 12:34 |
mauvebic |
:P |
| 12:34 |
Jordach |
hi MinetestBot |
| 12:34 |
MinetestBot |
Hello Jordach |
| 12:34 |
Jordach |
see? |
| 12:34 |
us_0gb |
Hi MinetestBot. |
| 12:35 |
us_0gb |
MinetwstBot doesn't like me because I punctuate. |
| 12:35 |
Jordach |
im wondering how far the sound driver goes in linux |
| 12:35 |
us_0gb |
*MinetestBot |
| 12:35 |
rubenwardy |
!seen Rubenwardy |
| 12:35 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Sorry, I haven't seen rubenwardy around. |
| 12:35 |
rubenwardy |
fail |
| 12:35 |
Jordach |
!seen rubenwardy |
| 12:35 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: rubenwardy was last seen at 2013-04-12 12:35:20 UTC on #minetest |
| 12:35 |
mauvebic |
enough to bust my last speakers :p |
| 12:35 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, i have a creative 7.1 Sound Blaster Audigy |
| 12:35 |
rubenwardy |
!seen Rubenwardy |
| 12:35 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: rubenwardy was last seen at 2013-04-12 12:35:42 UTC on #minetest |
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rubenwardy |
ah, I must speak for it to log m |
| 12:36 |
rubenwardy |
e |
| 12:36 |
mauvebic |
why was all that capitalized? lol |
| 12:36 |
Jordach |
my regular sound chip, the intel ac'97 cant handle 72000KBPS |
| 12:36 |
YoungDerp |
hmm... |
| 12:36 |
us_0gb |
YoungDerp is Kacey? |
| 12:36 |
rubenwardy |
huh? |
| 12:37 |
YoungDerp |
ya |
| 12:37 |
mauvebic |
i have no idea what i have, but the sub is BIG lol |
| 12:37 |
YoungDerp |
Kacey was already in use this morning |
| 12:37 |
mauvebic |
i have to keep it on the lowest setting otherwise watching star trek people think the koreans are invading |
| 12:38 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, my triton gaming headset can ramp the volume to 110Db |
| 12:38 |
mauvebic |
headphones - sehnheiser only, everything else lacks balls |
| 12:38 |
us_0gb |
Ah, I see. Unregistered then. |
| 12:39 |
mauvebic |
big brass ones |
| 12:39 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, my forum avatar shows them |
| 12:39 |
mauvebic |
i think my partial deafness and ringing is attributable to that lol |
| 12:40 |
mauvebic |
my god those pictures are too tniy |
| 12:40 |
mauvebic |
*tiny |
| 12:40 |
mauvebic |
i should be wearing glasses but aint nobody got time for dat |
| 12:41 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, i saw the meme first |
| 12:41 |
Jordach |
on russel howard's good news |
| 12:42 |
Jordach |
oh and btw, MinetestBot is getting a player skijn |
| 12:42 |
Jordach |
skin* |
| 12:42 |
mauvebic |
use to wear contacts but i kept falling asleep with them in |
| 12:42 |
Jordach |
(colours sampled from minetest-icon.ico) |
| 12:42 |
mauvebic |
you mean the forum spamming bot? |
| 12:42 |
sfan5 |
mauvebic: spamming? |
| 12:42 |
mauvebic |
well it managed to bump just about 90% of topics two weeks ago |
| 12:42 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, i mean the IRC bot |
| 12:43 |
Jordach |
not sfan5-bot |
| 12:43 |
mauvebic |
ok theyre not the same |
| 12:43 |
mauvebic |
why would a chat bot have an avatar though? do your chat clients have a feature im lacking? lol |
| 12:43 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, its just a fun skin to sharpen my pixel artistry |
| 12:44 |
mauvebic |
i was just curious how we would see it :p |
| 12:44 |
sfan5 |
wub wub wub wub |
| 12:44 |
mauvebic |
dont play with it too much, youll go blind :p |
| 12:44 |
sfan5 |
FUCK! why the fuck do I always click on the fucking X button.... |
| 12:45 |
Jordach |
sfan5, because its shiny? |
| 12:45 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 12:45 |
mauvebic |
the close button? |
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Jordach |
* Received a CTCP REPLY ME!! (with ctcp) from sfan5 lol |
| 12:47 |
mauvebic |
time means nothing at my end :P woke up at 20h yesterday |
| 12:48 |
Jordach |
Stardate 8000 |
| 12:48 |
mauvebic |
just about lol |
| 12:48 |
Jordach |
toilet wont flush, will try again later. |
| 12:48 |
mauvebic |
you too? |
| 12:48 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, i dont eat often enough |
| 12:48 |
mauvebic |
the rapid thaw made sewers back up here |
| 12:48 |
Jordach |
goddamit sfan5 |
| 12:48 |
mauvebic |
naw us it was the sewers :P |
| 12:48 |
sfan5 |
:D |
| 12:48 |
* Jordach |
keeps seeing ctcp messages |
| 12:49 |
Jordach |
sfan5, QuakeNet misses you |
| 12:49 |
mauvebic |
it was the first time i saw air bubbles coming up from the toilet |
| 12:49 |
sfan5 |
... |
| 12:49 |
mauvebic |
i was like "what are you trying to say?!" |
| 12:50 |
mauvebic |
aparently the neighbour got it bad though - sink, tub, toilet, all of it came up lol |
| 12:51 |
PilzAdam |
piston double door: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=83523#p83523 |
| 12:51 |
YoungDerp |
* Kacey :Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable |
| 12:51 |
PilzAdam |
(smallest I have ever seen) |
| 12:51 |
mauvebic |
thats alot of equipment for one door :p |
| 12:52 |
PilzAdam |
oh, and the door is unbreakable |
| 12:52 |
mauvebic |
mesecons toilet: http://www.hwdyk.com/q/images/bartvsaustralia_08.jpg |
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| 12:55 |
Jordach |
http://imgur.com/gallery/w7AlzVD |
| 12:55 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 12:55 |
mauvebic |
i do have a fire extinguisher, got it along with my wife |
| 12:56 |
Jordach |
sfan5, here is MinetestBot http://imgur.com/a/xye2s |
| 12:56 |
sfan5 |
that looks human |
| 12:56 |
mauvebic |
chest hair? |
| 12:56 |
mauvebic |
how did it get above the shirt? |
| 12:56 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, its a front and back view |
| 12:57 |
mauvebic |
the 2nd one, what is the brown stuff on the shirt? |
| 12:57 |
Jordach |
hair |
| 12:57 |
mauvebic |
oooh |
| 12:57 |
mauvebic |
i thought he was looking the other way and it was chest hair lol |
| 12:58 |
Jordach |
sfan5, http://ompldr.org/vaTJpdg/minetestbot.zip |
| 12:58 |
Jordach |
there |
| 12:58 |
mauvebic |
wait, did you say she? |
| 12:58 |
Jordach |
skin + xcf layered skin |
| 12:58 |
mauvebic |
*didnt |
| 12:58 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, yes |
| 12:58 |
mauvebic |
eunuch? |
| 12:58 |
Jordach |
we cant just have vanessa being the only mature woman around here |
| 12:58 |
Jordach |
;) |
| 12:58 |
RealBadAngel |
hello minetesters |
| 12:59 |
mauvebic |
mature is like calling a woman old lol |
| 12:59 |
mauvebic |
ditto for handsome |
| 12:59 |
mauvebic |
still, you need to give it some tits, Seven of Nine style, of subjunction double D |
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mauvebic |
"resistance is futile" lol |
| 13:00 |
mauvebic |
my wife is pretty good with meshes, she can make a pair |
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* sfan5 |
is now going to play some redeclipse |
| 13:01 |
mauvebic |
tried that once, wasn't keen |
| 13:01 |
mauvebic |
my wife likes that linux RPG |
| 13:01 |
mauvebic |
... |
| 13:01 |
mauvebic |
planeshift |
| 13:01 |
mauvebic |
but the graphics are fucked up on both comps |
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* YoungDerp |
waits for Jordach to make him a custom skin... |
| 13:04 |
YoungDerp |
Someone is using my real nick... |
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mauvebic |
well if anyone wants to use my name they can feel free to pay my bills too :p |
| 13:14 |
arsdragonfly |
I think I need a Synaptic Mod Manager for minetest:( |
| 13:14 |
arsdragonfly |
So many dependencies |
| 13:14 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, you made that fat double door? i can do that but much much smaller |
| 13:15 |
arsdragonfly |
I just wanna set up homedecor and I don't know where to start from |
| 13:15 |
mauvebic |
unzip it to your mods folder |
| 13:16 |
mauvebic |
then sing one verse of HMS Pinafore and you're done :-) |
| 13:16 |
mauvebic |
*from |
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| 13:29 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, http://imgur.com/a/cJTg5 |
| 13:29 |
Jordach |
so much fucking simpler. |
| 13:30 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, microcontrollers are not allowed |
| 13:30 |
Jordach |
bullshit |
| 13:30 |
Jordach |
you didnt say i could use luacontrollers |
| 13:31 |
Jordach |
:D |
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PilzAdam |
ok, if µC/LuaC counts, then my doors mod does too |
| 13:32 |
PilzAdam |
(the one in common) |
| 13:32 |
PilzAdam |
so I guess /me is the winner |
| 13:34 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, yours is a standalone mod |
| 13:34 |
Jordach |
mine is pure mesecon |
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arsdragonfly|pho |
why does my server hang at "announcing to servers.minetest.net"? |
| 13:35 |
STHGOM |
!up minetest.org 30015 |
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MinetestBot |
minetest.org:30015 is up (0.308ms) |
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STHGOM |
hi |
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arsdragonfly|pho |
!up arsenalmp.no-ip.org |
| 13:39 |
MinetestBot |
arsenalmp.no-ip.org:30000 is up (1.720ms) |
| 13:39 |
arsdragonfly|pho |
horrible lag :( |
| 13:40 |
arsdragonfly|pho |
still it's not on the main server list |
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Jordach |
hey VanessaE |
| 14:08 |
VanessaE |
good morning |
| 14:09 |
Jordach |
also: http://imgur.com/gallery/w7AlzVD |
| 14:09 |
Jordach |
female minetest plater |
| 14:09 |
Jordach |
player* |
| 14:09 |
Jordach |
no wait wrong link |
| 14:09 |
Jordach |
http://imgur.com/a/xye2s |
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Jordach |
there^^ |
| 14:12 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: looks almost like Peppermint Patty, but not quite. |
| 14:12 |
Jordach |
?? |
| 14:12 |
VanessaE |
the Peanuts character. |
| 14:12 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, her colours were sampled from minetest's logo |
| 14:13 |
Jordach |
anyways, this skin is for MinetestBot http://ompldr.org/vaTJpdg/minetestbot.zip |
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swilde |
*: Hi, is there a way in the lua api to put items in a group after they were registered? |
| 14:24 |
arsdragonfly|pho |
hey guys |
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arsdragonfly|pho |
I can't announce my server to the main server list |
| 14:25 |
arsdragonfly|pho |
What's wrong? |
| 14:25 |
swilde |
*: Reason is this: I want to register crafting recipes where e.g. different sorts of grass should work, so group:grass in the recipes would be nice -- but currently no such group is defined and therefore the different types of grass aren't in one group. So my question is: could my mod create a group grass and make the existing types of grass all a member of that item group? |
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TheSkyPlays |
how can I start minetest? |
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| 14:49 |
TheSkyPlays |
Hello? |
| 14:49 |
mauvebic |
1) make sure computer is plugged in |
| 14:49 |
mauvebic |
2) Start menu > Games > Minetest |
| 14:49 |
TheSkyPlays |
ok |
| 14:49 |
mauvebic |
or alt F2 "minetest" enter |
| 14:49 |
mauvebic |
was mostly kidding about #1 :p |
| 14:49 |
mauvebic |
you wouldn't be here otherwise lol |
| 14:50 |
TheSkyPlays |
doesn´t work |
| 14:50 |
mauvebic |
what OS? |
| 14:50 |
TheSkyPlays |
i have win 7 |
| 14:50 |
mauvebic |
hmm, |
| 14:51 |
mauvebic |
Windows users, line 1 |
| 14:51 |
mauvebic |
trying to remember who makes winbuilds |
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TheSkyPlays |
i don´t know |
| 14:51 |
mauvebic |
wait, you have that little windows button right? |
| 14:51 |
mauvebic |
on the keyboard |
| 14:52 |
TheSkyPlays |
yes? |
| 14:52 |
mauvebic |
should be the equivilent of alt f2 |
| 14:52 |
Exio |
Windows/Super key + R is the "Run" window in windows |
| 14:53 |
TheSkyPlays |
yes |
| 14:53 |
TheSkyPlays |
i type "minetest" ? |
| 14:53 |
mauvebic |
yep - if minetest doesn't start that way either it isn't configured or installed right |
| 14:53 |
TheSkyPlays |
i have a zip pack |
| 14:54 |
mauvebic |
but did you run the installer (did it have one?) |
| 14:54 |
TheSkyPlays |
what installer? there isn´t one installer... |
| 14:54 |
mauvebic |
hmm, yeah i wont be much help last time i ran windows bush had just stolen the election |
| 14:55 |
TheSkyPlays |
really? |
| 14:56 |
mauvebic |
"Extract the zip package somewhere. Run the executable found in the bin/ folder. Also see the Getting started page in the wiki. |
| 14:56 |
mauvebic |
If you have problems, see this forum thread." |
| 14:56 |
TheSkyPlays |
ok |
| 14:56 |
TheSkyPlays |
i found it |
| 14:56 |
mauvebic |
im surprised no one made an installer tho lol |
| 14:56 |
TheSkyPlays |
ok it runs |
| 14:57 |
TheSkyPlays |
thx |
| 14:57 |
mauvebic |
no prob |
| 14:57 |
TheSkyPlays |
ok nevertheless |
| 14:59 |
Jordach |
hm? what did i miss |
| 14:59 |
mauvebic |
ogb.us embraced windows |
| 14:59 |
Jordach |
rubbish |
| 14:59 |
mauvebic |
its as if he saw the light on the road to Tabasco |
| 15:00 |
Jordach |
dafuq |
| 15:00 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 15:00 |
* Jordach |
thinks mauvebic should stay away from the glue |
| 15:00 |
mauvebic |
actually i stopped smoking weed nearly a month ago - which just proves some people are saner with it lol |
| 15:01 |
rubenwardy |
mauvebic: kaeza did |
| 15:01 |
mauvebic |
did what? |
| 15:01 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, your insanity for building shit still stands |
| 15:01 |
rubenwardy |
installer |
| 15:01 |
mauvebic |
jordach true, i totally demolished the queen mary twice and started over to get it *right* lol |
| 15:02 |
mauvebic |
he did? the download pages only have the zips |
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rubenwardy |
it is not official |
| 15:02 |
mauvebic |
i told someone to look in their start menu lol |
| 15:02 |
rubenwardy |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4245 |
| 15:02 |
mauvebic |
newbies dont look there |
| 15:02 |
mauvebic |
would be more practical on the downloads page |
| 15:03 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 15:04 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, you have windows. update it yourself |
| 15:04 |
rubenwardy |
you do as well jordach |
| 15:05 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, i formatted the windows partiton |
| 15:05 |
rubenwardy |
I use a Ubuntu Windows 7 dual boot |
| 15:05 |
mauvebic |
where were you all ten minutes ago when i had win user asking me how to start mt lol |
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Jordach |
mauvebic, probably watching..... |
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rubenwardy |
creating installer... |
| 15:20 |
Pest |
Guys, i have this problem on server: ERROR[ServerThread]: WARNING: Block failed to save (-44, -1, -9) SQL logic error or missing database |
| 15:20 |
Pest |
suggestions? |
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Jordach |
Pest, possible corrupted world save |
| 15:21 |
Pest |
how to fix? |
| 15:22 |
VanessaE |
Pest: disable error checking for a short while (ignore_load_errors=true in your minetest.conf, I think) |
| 15:22 |
VanessaE |
get the bad chunk to load, then stop your server and remove that config line. |
| 15:22 |
VanessaE |
you'll get a partially-re-generated chunk, but it's better than losing the whole world. |
| 15:23 |
Pest |
thank you so much |
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VanessaE |
ignore_world_load_errors=true rather. |
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sfan5 |
how to find various apache logs with google: '' site:https://www.hnrlawoffices.com "logs/" '' |
| 15:37 |
markveidemanis |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=83557#p83557 |
| 15:37 |
Pest |
VanessaE: it works now as well. Tnx |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
pilzAdam ding |
| 15:43 |
PilzAdam |
pong |
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PilzAdam |
bbl |
| 15:43 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
wait |
| 15:44 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
how do i make a formspec take stuff out like normal(referring to workbench mod) |
| 15:44 |
VanessaE |
Pest: excellent. Now do something to change the bad block i,.e. build something on it. close your server and remove that line. |
| 15:45 |
VanessaE |
then restart your server |
| 15:45 |
VanessaE |
(server or game I mean) |
| 15:45 |
VanessaE |
morning PilzAdam. |
| 15:45 |
Pest |
already |
| 15:46 |
VanessaE |
Pest: good deal. Sorry that happened, it might have been due to a bad shutdown at some point, or bas RAM (both have happened to me before) |
| 15:46 |
VanessaE |
do a thorough hardware test when you get a chance. |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
where is the survival inventory defined? |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
well anyone... |
| 15:49 |
Pest |
might be. Couple of times i shutdown it via htop |
| 15:49 |
VanessaE |
no idea. |
| 15:49 |
VanessaE |
Pest: that could do it. |
| 15:49 |
Jordach |
Pest, AHA |
| 15:49 |
Jordach |
Pest, on my server, i always ctrl + c from the screened terminal |
| 15:50 |
Pest |
seems to work with tmux=) |
| 15:50 |
VanessaE |
what I do is /shutdown from within a client. |
| 15:58 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, seems too dangerous for me |
| 15:58 |
VanessaE |
what, shutdown? |
| 15:58 |
Jordach |
yup |
| 15:59 |
Jordach |
because the other clients abruptly disconnect, same for ctrl + c i guess |
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| 16:00 |
Calinou |
there's no //shutdown in minetest by default |
| 16:00 |
Calinou |
/shutdown* |
| 16:00 |
Calinou |
or, there is? |
| 16:00 |
Calinou |
it's not in help |
| 16:02 |
celeron55 |
minetest will shut down gracefully with SIGINT |
| 16:02 |
celeron55 |
same as what "kill" without parameters does |
| 16:03 |
Calinou |
doesn't "kill" send 9 signal by default ? |
| 16:03 |
Calinou |
nvm |
| 16:03 |
celeron55 |
kill -9 is SIGTERM, that will forcefully end it |
| 16:03 |
celeron55 |
it can corrupt anything |
| 16:03 |
celeron55 |
(ctrl+c is SIGINT) |
| 16:06 |
celeron55 |
and yes, the minetest client doesn't handle disconnects really at all |
| 16:08 |
markveidemanis |
How do i disconnect a user from a server |
| 16:09 |
VanessaE |
markveidemanis: ban them, then un-ban. |
| 16:09 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: kill -9 is SIGKILL. |
| 16:09 |
markveidemanis |
A way to do /kick? |
| 16:09 |
VanessaE |
markveidemanis: not at present. |
| 16:09 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, someones working on it IIRC |
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| 16:25 |
Jordach |
anyways, i've had some ideas on a book |
| 16:25 |
Jordach |
(it shows Minetest's story over the course since I've been here.) |
| 16:28 |
Mailaender |
how do I solve the problem where the game minituarizes http://imgur.com/zxyQnMT when using multi-monitor setups and windowed mode? |
| 16:28 |
khonkhortisan |
Mailaender, I have that exact problem |
| 16:29 |
Jordach |
Mailaender, maximise and de-maximise |
| 16:29 |
Jordach |
Mailaender, also: don't use Irrlicht 1.8 |
| 16:30 |
celeron55 |
VanessaE: umm... oh i guess so then |
| 16:31 |
khonkhortisan |
No solution yet for that version of irrlicht https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/474 |
| 16:31 |
Jordach |
Mailaender, i've heard that openSUSE is friendlier than Ubuntu |
| 16:34 |
Mailaender |
I did not use Ubuntu for years and I never successfully submitted patches to Ubuntu. I only got a message after 3 years that I should please update to the latest DEB format, then they might review... that is too slow for me. |
| 16:34 |
Jordach |
Calinou, |
| 16:34 |
Jordach |
<nhoodfan> Someone give me a GTX Titan. |
| 16:38 |
markveidemanis |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5582 |
| 16:39 |
khonkhortisan |
like movestones from mesecons |
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markveidemanis |
Yep |
| 16:40 |
rubenwardy |
what I have been working on today: http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/medal_def.png |
| 16:40 |
markveidemanis |
That is what i need..... |
| 16:40 |
markveidemanis |
To make a good lift |
| 16:40 |
khonkhortisan |
you said like movestones from technic :) |
| 16:40 |
markveidemanis |
We have entity collision |
| 16:41 |
khonkhortisan |
I tried to use pistons pointing up to make an elevator, then I find out pistons can't pull activated pistons sideways |
| 16:42 |
markveidemanis |
86.172.133.253 Proof |
| 16:45 |
markveidemanis |
khonkhortisan ^ |
| 16:46 |
Jordach |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=83571#p83571 |
| 16:46 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, ^ |
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khonkhortisan |
explain -i +ation |
| 16:48 |
paxcoder |
how would i go about writing a client-side mod? |
| 16:49 |
rubenwardy |
no such thing |
| 16:49 |
rubenwardy |
i believe |
| 16:49 |
khonkhortisan |
You stop right when you start |
| 16:50 |
khonkhortisan |
Mods are written in lua, then read by the server, then the server sends the client any new nodes/textures/other stuff |
| 16:54 |
paxcoder |
khonkhortisan, what if i wanted a bind mod that makes this kind of thing possible: /bind b /msg this is spam |
| 16:54 |
paxcoder |
well.. you get it |
| 16:54 |
khonkhortisan |
That would be a server mod, and you can do that |
| 16:54 |
paxcoder |
no, client siiiide |
| 16:54 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, post updated |
| 16:55 |
khonkhortisan |
um, you'd have to edit the client's c++ code |
| 16:55 |
khonkhortisan |
to make it support that |
| 16:55 |
khonkhortisan |
or use another program that sends fake keypresses |
| 16:55 |
markveidemanis |
Make it get the player name and if the player presses that button do something that would make the client open a msg gui |
| 16:56 |
* khonkhortisan |
downloaded older version of irrlicht, suprised he had to compile it, cmake-gui included it, recompiled, ran a bash script for luajit, and now has no problems with view shrinkage |
| 16:56 |
markveidemanis |
like the privarea mod, a command from a client opens up a gui |
| 16:56 |
paxcoder |
markveidemanis, the question is: how to do it client-side |
| 16:56 |
markveidemanis |
You're screwed, this is minetest ;) |
| 16:56 |
rubenwardy |
why client side? |
| 16:56 |
paxcoder |
why server side? |
| 16:56 |
paxcoder |
it's a client-side thing |
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khonkhortisan |
So that it works on anyone's server |
| 16:57 |
rubenwardy |
because it supports server side |
| 16:57 |
rubenwardy |
*it = minetest |
| 16:57 |
rubenwardy |
what do you want to do? |
| 16:57 |
khonkhortisan |
/bind b /msg |
| 16:57 |
rubenwardy |
??? |
| 16:57 |
paxcoder |
rubenwardy, an answer to "can this be done client-side where it belongs" cannot be "why not server side? server side is supported." |
| 16:58 |
rubenwardy |
khonkhortisan: when player presses b, /msg it oppend? |
| 16:58 |
rubenwardy |
opened? |
| 16:58 |
khonkhortisan |
oops misquote: "what if i wanted a bind mod that makes this kind of thing possible: /bind b /msg this is spam" |
| 16:58 |
rubenwardy |
you could just change you key settings for that |
| 16:59 |
rubenwardy |
when b is pressed, the player sends "this is spam" |
| 16:59 |
rubenwardy |
? |
| 16:59 |
khonkhortisan |
I think that's it |
| 16:59 |
paxcoder |
ideally, this is the scenario: you'd write /bind <key>, 2) it would be intercepted and not sent to the server, 3) it'd record keyboard events until you press ESC or something, 4) after that you'd press B to replay those events |
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rubenwardy |
like a macro? |
| 17:00 |
paxcoder |
but really, i'm only asking a general question: Can a mod be made to work client-side without recompiling? |
| 17:00 |
khonkhortisan |
There are two problems with this: 1) Minetest doesn't support arbitrary key bindings afaik - this would be the easier problem to fix, and 2) Minetest doesn't have client-side mods - This would mean adding a modding system while writing the mod. |
| 17:01 |
paxcoder |
khonkhortisan, don't mods execute client-side (as well?) ? |
| 17:01 |
khonkhortisan |
it'll take more than recompiling, the api would have to be changed |
| 17:01 |
khonkhortisan |
no, not at all |
| 17:01 |
khonkhortisan |
If I register a node, for example, the server only sends the new node, not the code that added it |
| 17:01 |
paxcoder |
khonkhortisan, you're telling me i run no lua at all, everything is run by the server? |
| 17:01 |
khonkhortisan |
Yes. |
| 17:01 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 17:01 |
paxcoder |
*everything lua |
| 17:01 |
paxcoder |
oh |
| 17:01 |
khonkhortisan |
Lua is all-server |
| 17:02 |
paxcoder |
well that's shabby |
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* paxcoder |
look sup shabby in the dictionary |
| 17:03 |
rubenwardy |
it is not shabby |
| 17:03 |
rubenwardy |
it is secure |
| 17:04 |
paxcoder |
rubenwardy, not all things need to be |
| 17:04 |
khonkhortisan |
The only person that can lose data from a bad mod is the server owner |
| 17:04 |
rubenwardy |
I know, paxcoder |
| 17:04 |
rubenwardy |
but all mods at the moment need to be secure |
| 17:04 |
paxcoder |
so how does node creation work then, how does server send me default:cobble? |
| 17:04 |
* sfan5 |
just wrote an SFX implementation from scratch |
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* khonkhortisan |
imagines having a venn diagram showing what parts of the api are client and what are server |
| 17:05 |
rubenwardy |
BUT if client side lua is created, then mods that do stuff like tha can be added |
| 17:05 |
khonkhortisan |
chatcommand could be both, register_node would be server, time would be both |
| 17:06 |
khonkhortisan |
But then for a really involved mod, it would require being installed both in the server and client |
| 17:06 |
paxcoder |
khonkhortisan, cache |
| 17:07 |
khonkhortisan |
what, downloading the client mod from the server? |
| 17:07 |
paxcoder |
added plus: no re-sending |
| 17:07 |
paxcoder |
yes |
| 17:07 |
paxcoder |
client side of the mod* |
| 17:07 |
khonkhortisan |
Here's some code, run me! |
| 17:07 |
paxcoder |
heh |
| 17:07 |
khonkhortisan |
mods aren't sandboxed yet |
| 17:07 |
paxcoder |
yeah... |
| 17:07 |
khonkhortisan |
except for the code in mesecons' luacontroller |
| 17:08 |
paxcoder |
no but i'm imagining client-side-only mods |
| 17:09 |
paxcoder |
khonkhortisan, but anyway, back to the topic, i added luminescence to my stone, and in "singleplayer", i can dig and everything is lit. how do i do that given that the server registers default:stone instead? |
| 17:09 |
paxcoder |
a similar client-side hack would be ignoring server "time", and going with 10k always |
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paxcoder |
khonkhortisan, no ideas? |
| 17:11 |
khonkhortisan |
Can you see underground at noon? |
| 17:12 |
paxcoder |
don't think so. but if i add luminescence to stone, yes |
| 17:12 |
paxcoder |
i think... |
| 17:13 |
paxcoder |
what's the noon time? |
| 17:13 |
khonkhortisan |
uh, 6000? 12000? |
| 17:13 |
khonkhortisan |
4500 is right at sunrise |
| 17:14 |
paxcoder |
can see underground at all those times |
| 17:14 |
paxcoder |
and 0 |
| 17:16 |
paxcoder |
there could also be client-side bots |
| 17:16 |
paxcoder |
with all that in mind, maybe client-side mods aren't such a good idea |
| 17:16 |
paxcoder |
wouldn't be very fair |
| 17:16 |
khonkhortisan |
interesting, there's another game that's trying to get server-side bots |
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NakedFury |
which one? |
| 17:17 |
khonkhortisan |
bzflag |
| 17:17 |
khonkhortisan |
but that would require a rewrite of lots of stuff |
| 17:18 |
paxcoder |
i never really got that game tb |
| 17:18 |
paxcoder |
h |
| 17:18 |
alex256 |
anyone have any idea why enable_pvp = 1 ic the minetest.conf isn't working on my server? |
| 17:18 |
Jordach |
alex256, it uses true and false |
| 17:18 |
alex256 |
i tried that as well...nothing |
| 17:20 |
paxcoder |
ah the true/1/yes/Yes/TRUE/<simply existing> difference |
| 17:20 |
paxcoder |
"yes"/"true" |
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alex256 |
in the minetest.conf example it sid to use true but that nor =1 is helping? where is the default script? there may be a typo in the version i have.... |
| 17:22 |
alex256 |
*said |
| 17:22 |
ShadowNinja |
alex256: are you using the latest game or the stable one? |
| 17:22 |
alex256 |
stable 0.4.6 |
| 17:22 |
ShadowNinja |
as in survival/minetest_game |
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alex256 |
yes |
| 17:23 |
ShadowNinja |
that wasn't a yes or no question |
| 17:24 |
ShadowNinja |
The damage system recently got re-done |
| 17:25 |
paxcoder |
ShadowNinja, and that |
| 17:25 |
alex256 |
yes stable and yes survival/minetest_game |
| 17:26 |
ShadowNinja |
is survival/minetest_game the stable version? |
| 17:27 |
alex256 |
it is the one included with the exception you told me to remove bones...you think the 3D_armor mod may be causes a glitch? |
| 17:28 |
ShadowNinja |
no, where did you get your version of the game? |
| 17:28 |
alex256 |
thold on i will find the page and post it |
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| 17:32 |
alex256 |
cool there is a stable for puppy now...let me install it and see if anything changes |
| 17:32 |
ShadowNinja |
build the unstable version |
| 17:33 |
* khonkhortisan |
made his time loop from sunrise to sunset |
| 17:33 |
alex256 |
i dont understand how to compile something or i would... |
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| 17:34 |
alex256 |
everything people have told me to do results in some error... |
| 17:34 |
ShadowNinja |
cd into a directory then git clone gitgithub.com:minetest/minetest.git . && cmake -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 && make -jX where X is the number of threads your computer has |
| 17:34 |
khonkhortisan |
How do I count threads? I know how to count processes |
| 17:34 |
Doyousketch2 |
2x the processor cores |
| 17:35 |
Doyousketch2 |
so if you have a single core processor, it's -j2 |
| 17:35 |
ShadowNinja |
if you have hyperthreading, otherwise it is the number of cores |
| 17:35 |
khonkhortisan |
someone should really fix the moon so it doesn't follow the sun |
| 17:36 |
Doyousketch2 |
lol khon :) |
| 17:36 |
alex256 |
mine is a 64-bit amd sempron |
| 17:36 |
Calinou |
AMD uses mutualized cores for some of their CPUs (mostly FXs) |
| 17:36 |
Calinou |
(and the APUs too) |
| 17:37 |
alex256 |
i miss my celeron processor..it was much better.... |
| 17:37 |
Calinou |
celeron G1610 > C2D E8400 :P |
| 17:37 |
Calinou |
alex256: if it's much better then your sempron is monocore |
| 17:37 |
Calinou |
lol'd at people wanting to save 5 euros for that |
| 17:38 |
alex256 |
what does the +3200 mean? |
| 17:38 |
Doyousketch2 |
well, I created the Live disk last night, then botched it by trying to change the username |
| 17:38 |
Calinou |
alex256: huh? |
| 17:39 |
Doyousketch2 |
so I had to start again. gonna dash out for coffee so my brain is awake enough to complete it |
| 17:39 |
alex256 |
it says 1.8ghz+3200 |
| 17:39 |
Calinou |
probably the ref of your CPU |
| 17:39 |
Calinou |
1.8ghz, if it's monocore, it's as powerful as my netbook's atom |
| 17:40 |
Calinou |
I'm talking in real cores btw, a dualcore AMD is a monocore ("monomodule") |
| 17:40 |
alex256 |
ok...just wondering...i am use to another cpu...unfortunately |
| 17:40 |
alex256 |
it died... |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
how can a CPU die, really |
| 17:41 |
* Calinou |
bets on the mobo |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
($10) |
| 17:41 |
khonkhortisan |
it becomes cold |
| 17:41 |
alex256 |
motherboard caught on fire when it fell of the desk.....lol |
| 17:42 |
alex256 |
the dreaded smell of mica burning |
| 17:42 |
Calinou |
fell of the desk? you aren't using a case? |
| 17:43 |
alex256 |
desktop pc/ old wobbly house = sad alex256 |
| 17:43 |
Calinou |
this is why you should put it on the floor |
| 17:44 |
* khonkhortisan |
has his on the floor |
| 17:44 |
Calinou |
on top of that you win one or two free °C, cold air is near the floor :P |
| 17:44 |
khonkhortisan |
the dog doesn't mess with it |
| 17:44 |
Calinou |
my case's roof is almost at the height of my keyboard, full tower ftw |
| 17:44 |
alex256 |
my cat would pee on it.... |
| 17:44 |
Calinou |
20kg when empty |
| 17:44 |
Calinou |
alex256: I have a cat too, I don't allow it to go near my PC |
| 17:44 |
khonkhortisan |
my dog is too big, pees on the floor |
| 17:44 |
Doyousketch2 |
you should watch those youtube clips where they overclock mobos without heatsinks |
| 17:45 |
Doyousketch2 |
then you'll see a CPU die in a blaze of glory |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
you don't overclock a motherboard, you overclock a CPU, RAM, or graphic card :P |
| 17:45 |
khonkhortisan |
heh. I was wondering what a mobo was. |
| 17:45 |
* Calinou |
has a motherboard that's certified for running a 3770K at 4.6ghz, but he has a 2600K @ stock |
| 17:45 |
Doyousketch2 |
well, you set it in the BIOS, which is on the mobo |
| 17:45 |
alex256 |
i have seen a cpu inside an aquarium full of vegetable oil... |
| 17:46 |
khonkhortisan |
isn't that flammable? |
| 17:46 |
* Calinou |
places a torch on khonkhortisan's wooden house |
| 17:46 |
Doyousketch2 |
I did the oil trick with a router that I upgraded the ROM to DD-WRT |
| 17:46 |
alex256 |
they sealed everything up with silicone first |
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Doyousketch2 |
did ok 'till my roomie left it sitting outside in the rain |
| 17:48 |
Calinou |
heh, routers |
| 17:48 |
alex256 |
water.electronics not a good mix |
| 17:48 |
Calinou |
in france, you get a "box", basically you rent (or rarely, buy) your router from... your ISP |
| 17:48 |
Calinou |
french paradox :> |
| 17:48 |
Jordach |
Calinou, my tower weighs an absolute tonn |
| 17:48 |
Calinou |
you cannot use your own router most of the time (or it is very hard to do so) |
| 17:48 |
Calinou |
Jordach: heh |
| 17:48 |
Calinou |
few cases are 20kg when empty :P |
| 17:48 |
* Calinou |
crushes Jordach with a 900D |
| 17:49 |
Jordach |
Calinou, acer here, expect a bit of flab, but then again, it also has the ability to upgrade the mobo |
| 17:49 |
Jordach |
also: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=83591#p83591 |
| 17:49 |
alex256 |
i installed linux on a sega genesis once...that was wierd...lol |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
http://www.cowcotland.com/images/news/2013/04/cowneries-dimanche-tkd2009-semaine-14---2013-7.jpg |
| 17:51 |
Jordach |
Calinou, isnt that the first IBM PC Clone? |
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Calinou |
dunno |
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Jordach |
Calinou, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=83593#p83593 |
| 17:59 |
Calinou |
i'd like to have more dungeon-like structures, yeah |
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* Calinou |
is playing trackmania |
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alex256 |
http://www.cowcotland.com/images/news/2013/04/cowneries-dimanche-tkd2009-semaine-14---2013-7.jpg :) |
| 18:03 |
alex256 |
that a whopper lol |
| 18:07 |
alex256 |
anyone on here ever mess with the cube2 engine any? |
| 18:07 |
Calinou |
/me |
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* Calinou |
plays red eclipse and sauerbraten :P |
| 18:08 |
alex256 |
cool me to...i use to do alot af map makeing...what was your name on there? |
| 18:08 |
alex256 |
same? |
| 18:09 |
alex256 |
...i am always alex256... |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
Calinou :P |
| 18:10 |
alex256 |
Calinou...do you have stuff uploaded to quadropolis? |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
'dinner, bye |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
alex256: no |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
quadropolis, worse than reddit (which is in turn worse than 4chan) |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: khonkhortisan commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Allow pistons to connect vertically (to mese) 88eb0c61ea 2013-04-12T11:23:03-07:00 http://git.io/JeC8Vw |
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markveidemanis |
Hi |
| 18:26 |
Jordach |
winning. http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=83601#p83601 |
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CryAngel |
hi all |
| 18:34 |
CryAngel |
i want ask - all happy with systemwide LuaJIT or someone prefer builtin (same as Lua now)? |
| 18:34 |
khonkhortisan |
I'd prefer whatever doesn't make me compile twice just to link to luajit |
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Doyousketch2 |
mine did ok with systemwide JIT |
| 18:40 |
Doyousketch2 |
I do agree with khon tho. it'd be easier if it could just be included in Calinou's one-line apt-get |
| 18:41 |
CryAngel |
well, but apt-get not suitable for windows users anyway hehe |
| 18:43 |
CryAngel |
also, while Lua can be systemwide, minetest use builtin. dont same apply to LuaJIT? |
| 18:44 |
Doyousketch2 |
I'm sure you could if you reference the right directory |
| 18:48 |
CryAngel |
here comment from CmakeList: |
| 18:48 |
CryAngel |
# Do not use system-wide installation of Lua, because it'll likely be a |
| 18:48 |
CryAngel |
# different version and/or has different build options. |
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CryAngel |
so, even systemwide possible builtin preffered |
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Doyousketch2 |
oh, I didn't think of version probs |
| 18:50 |
Doyousketch2 |
I guess it makes sence, because it's a pretty important part of the game |
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CryAngel |
anyway, i finally fix my branch to build on linux |
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CryAngel |
so i just want to know, will i make new pull request or noone interested on it |
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Doyousketch2 |
oh, what's the diff? was it broken before? |
| 18:57 |
CryAngel |
in my branch i integrate LuaJIT as builtin. i make pull request before, but work only on windows. now i get some free time, switch to my Debian and finally fix it on linux also :) |
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Doyousketch2 |
ah, good stuff. yeah, I'd try new pull request. |
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CryAngel |
well, i prepare and make new pull request then. i think i make it possible to chose what LuaJIT use - builtin or systemwide. what will be default? |
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Doyousketch2 |
yeah, that's a good idea. if you include LuaJIT, make it default to that. |
| 19:04 |
Doyousketch2 |
but I totally agree with the option to disable it. for error-testing and whatnot |
| 19:05 |
Doyousketch2 |
people can compare speeds without having to uninstall and re-install the JIT package |
| 19:05 |
Calinou |
don't you need to recompile too? |
| 19:06 |
Doyousketch2 |
I'm sure you would |
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CryAngel |
statically linked lib sure need recompile to be linked |
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CryAngel |
btw i talk not about Lua and LuaJIT. i talk about luajit if both present - systemwide and builtin what will be selected by default? |
| 19:09 |
Doyousketch2 |
oh, if you include package, default to the one you include |
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Doyousketch2 |
so you don't run into version errors |
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Doyousketch2 |
because the systemwide might be an old copy that doesn't do everything minetest needs it to |
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khonkhortisan |
cmake gives the option to use system irrlicht or a downloaded one |
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markveidemanis |
86.172.133.253 for GHOST test |
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CryAngel |
khonkhortisan: yes, but some need to be default :) |
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Doyousketch2 |
I already know what it's like to be a ghost. tweaked my code so I didn't spawn after dying |
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Doyousketch2 |
didn't like it tho, 'cuz the server doesn't let you interact while you're dead |
| 19:13 |
Doyousketch2 |
even tho your client lets you |
| 19:13 |
CryAngel |
but... how ghost will interact? |
| 19:14 |
Doyousketch2 |
so you pick at blocks and it looks like you collect stuff, but then you eventually spawn, and none of it was really collected |
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CryAngel |
may be some scary sounds and shake some items will be possible for ghost lol |
| 19:17 |
Doyousketch2 |
that'd be cool, but you'd have to re-write server to allow some sorta interact after death. |
| 19:17 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, bug with beds mod |
| 19:18 |
Jordach |
nope my bad |
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Doyousketch2 |
as it is, you ought'to disable interact from client after death. otherwise you waste time |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
is it possible to have a mod get the size of an image in pixels |
| 19:19 |
sfan5 |
http://i.imgur.com/YXta4TD.gif |
| 19:19 |
jordan4ibanez |
I think traxie21 might shit her pants when she see's this thing once it's complete |
| 19:20 |
Doyousketch2 |
I think you can use a mod to do direct IO requests. maybe you could figure image size with that |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
once what is complete? |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
and i wish i knw how to do IO requests but i dont |
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khonkhortisan |
lua is very limited in that way |
| 19:23 |
CryAngel |
btw Lua can load and use libs, which can really extend functional |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
ok |
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Doyousketch2 |
you 'prolly could if you put IrrLua in the mix. http://irrlua.sourceforge.net/using.html |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
we need a lib to find sizes for png files |
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paxcoder |
that should be very straight forward |
| 19:25 |
CryAngel |
i most sure imagemagic can cover any imagerelated things |
| 19:26 |
markveidemanis |
Who is on a server |
| 19:26 |
markveidemanis |
tell me address |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
http://ittner.github.io/lua-gd/ |
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paxcoder |
I reckon this MediaFetchThread is what registers client-side the nodes registered server-side. How do I hack it to add luminescence to stone? |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
what version of lua do we use |
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Doyousketch2 |
you can 'prolly do it through LibPNG which is already included |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
you mean we have that |
| 19:27 |
paxcoder |
i wonder how GD got so popular |
| 19:27 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
ok then how would i do it |
| 19:28 |
paxcoder |
look up the api man |
| 19:28 |
paxcoder |
he said "prolly", not "certainly (i know it by heart)" |
| 19:29 |
Doyousketch2 |
png_get_IHDR &width, &height |
| 19:29 |
Doyousketch2 |
http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/libpng-1.4.0-manual.pdf |
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CryAngel |
fast googling show me here already some binding to ImageMagic https://github.com/leafo/magick |
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CryAngel |
also here http://code.google.com/p/lua-files/ bunch of different bindings (include libpng) |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
gahh you making me do work |
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* sfan5 |
finally updated his nuke mod |
| 19:35 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
anyways i am editeing gemalde so pics can take up the right size |
| 19:36 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
so |
| 19:36 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
has anyone found the singleplayer formspec |
| 19:36 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
where it is defined |
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jordan4ibanez |
FINALLY |
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Doyousketch2 |
formspec? |
| 19:51 |
jordan4ibanez |
It's only been 2 years lol |
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PilzAdam |
jordan4ibanez, this is how you make piston doors: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=83523#p83523 |
| 19:53 |
jordan4ibanez |
But I already made one http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=83385#p83385 |
| 19:53 |
jordan4ibanez |
It dings when the timer cools down :D |
| 19:54 |
jordan4ibanez |
How do I get the number of a node? |
| 19:54 |
PilzAdam |
what number? |
| 19:54 |
jordan4ibanez |
Like say I have "mod:Node_1" |
| 19:54 |
PilzAdam |
tonumber(string.sub(node.name, #node.name-1)) |
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Jordach |
EVERYONE, MY FATHER HAS COLLAPSED; PLEASE GIVE SUPPORT |
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Doyousketch2 |
srry to hear :( |
| 19:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
call 911? |
| 19:56 |
Jordach |
already done. |
| 19:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
Is he overworked? |
| 19:57 |
Jordach |
jordan4ibanez, he complained of a backache 30 mins before it |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, call satan, make a deal before its too late |
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sfan5 |
does anyone with 64bit linux want to try my one-click minetest installer out? |
| 20:04 |
Doyousketch2 |
used to have 64 bit on here |
| 20:05 |
sfan5 |
i'll wait for VanessaE |
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Doyousketch2 |
it was faster, especially internet, but it was buggy at the time, so I went back to 32 |
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Doyousketch2 |
they 'prolly got all of it ironed out by now, but I haven't swapped it up |
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sfan5 |
making a 32bit version would be complicated because i would need libssl, libcrypto, libbz2 ,libz and libxml2 as 32 bit |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
has anyone made a 64 bit windows installer or build |
| 20:06 |
Doyousketch2 |
might compile a 64 bit Live disk in a couple days |
| 20:06 |
sfan5 |
(leaving out the libs i would need for building minetest) |
| 20:07 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997|Tablet: i could easily make a win64 build |
| 20:07 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
please do |
| 20:07 |
sfan5 |
why |
| 20:07 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
isnt it faster? |
| 20:07 |
sfan5 |
its not significant |
| 20:07 |
sfan5 |
*significantly faster |
| 20:07 |
Doyousketch2 |
it can be for certain things, especially if the processor is 64 bit native |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
could you make a build for me to compare times |
| 20:08 |
Doyousketch2 |
but most of the time you won't see much of a diff |
| 20:08 |
sfan5 |
you mean if the processor supports switching to "long mode" |
| 20:08 |
sfan5 |
;) |
| 20:08 |
sfan5 |
if you REALLY need/want a 64bit build for windows build it yourself |
| 20:08 |
celeron55_ |
most of the time the only thing a 64bit build will do is consume even more memory |
| 20:08 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
any less lag is noticable to me |
| 20:08 |
celeron55_ |
because pointers take 8 bytes instead of 4 |
| 20:08 |
celeron55_ |
and some size variables |
| 20:08 |
sfan5 |
thats also right |
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Doyousketch2 |
well, I think there's a processor out there that was built primarily as 64, and it's actually slower in 32 |
| 20:09 |
Doyousketch2 |
I'm thinking this one's that way, but I can't recall why |
| 20:09 |
celeron55_ |
i guess a 64bit x86 processor is still mostly an overclocked 386 :P |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
local objpos = obj:get_pos() |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
is that possible for craft items |
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Doyousketch2 |
I'm getting somewhere with this live disk, but I have a concern |
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jordan4ibanez |
I am creating a cauldron, and testing the cycle of the bubbling liquid I accidentally created a slow piston |
| 20:31 |
jordan4ibanez |
This is very nice http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4403 |
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Taoki |
hi. How do you register a minetest.after function which has parameters? |
| 20:32 |
Taoki |
I don't ceem to be able to do minetest.after(1, function(x, y)) |
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Doyousketch2 |
yeah, it really is j4i |
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jordan4ibanez |
minetest.after(1,function() |
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jordan4ibanez |
--do stuff |
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jordan4ibanez |
end) |
| 20:33 |
Taoki |
thanks |
| 20:33 |
jordan4ibanez |
No problem |
| 20:35 |
Taoki |
Hmm, still won't work |
| 20:35 |
Taoki |
It's a function in a function btw |
| 20:35 |
Taoki |
Hold on, I'll paste |
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Taoki |
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=DTg5cdWF |
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Taoki |
How should I reform that? Basically I need something to take place in register_on_generated but about 1 seconds after generating |
| 20:36 |
Taoki |
So I need a register_on_generated triggering an after |
| 20:38 |
jordan4ibanez |
just run it on the on_generated function I guess |
| 20:38 |
Taoki |
Anyone? |
| 20:38 |
jordan4ibanez |
put the minetest.after function to be run by the on_generated function |
| 20:39 |
Taoki |
Isn't that what I did? |
| 20:40 |
Taoki |
Seems it's not working the way I made it |
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Doyousketch2 |
does debug log tell you a specific error when you try to run it? |
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jordan4ibanez |
make the delay higher |
| 20:41 |
Taoki |
ok, think I got it |
| 20:41 |
Taoki |
And yeah, 1 second still is too low :P |
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YoungDerp |
Kacey is still in use... |
| 20:43 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1361 this is possible now, either set the gravity negative, or make an elevator lift entity, or attach a player to an entity |
| 20:43 |
khonkhortisan |
http://img42.com/Gdi7L |
| 20:43 |
Taoki |
Isn't there a way to register something to run in an area that was generated after it was all finished generating? |
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* YoungDerp |
wonders who is using the nick Kacey even though it is registered |
| 20:44 |
khonkhortisan |
You can steal it back |
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jordan4ibanez |
is there a way to make part of a nodebox not collidable? |
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celeron55_ |
Taoki: on_generated is that |
| 20:45 |
Taoki |
celeron55_: interesting. I'm getting "ignore" nodes returned a lot in my positioning code, so I thought it's running too early. Means my positioning formula is wrong in that case |
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YoungDerp |
how do i get it back? |
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celeron55_ |
oh ummm |
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khonkhortisan |
YoungDerp, http://www.technerd.net/nickserv.html |
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celeron55_ |
so you mean that after it's all properly in the environment |
| 20:46 |
Doyousketch2 |
try /whois Kasey then check the freenode channel |
| 20:46 |
Taoki |
celeron55_: Yeah. Like after all blocks in that area (mins and maxs or what they're called) has been generated |
| 20:46 |
celeron55_ |
actually yeah, on_generated is that |
| 20:47 |
celeron55_ |
it is run just after the result of the map generation is copied into the live world |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
is it set_hp()=1 or set_hp(1) |
| 20:47 |
Taoki |
ok. My code is wrong then |
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Kacey |
haha had to release it |
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* Doyousketch2 |
really wants to hook the sub back up. |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
is it set_hp()=1 or set_hp(1) |
| 20:49 |
Doyousketch2 |
just don't want to carry it in here 'cuz it's flippin' heavy |
| 20:50 |
Doyousketch2 |
if I had to guess, set_hp = 1 |
| 20:51 |
Doyousketch2 |
tho I'd have to see it in it's context |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
i just cant remember where i saw it before |
| 20:51 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
OH! |
| 20:52 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
the same thing happened with peaceful_npc |
| 20:52 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
it is set_hp(#) |
| 20:52 |
Doyousketch2 |
if you were on Linux, I'd say use the gnome search tool and search for text within a file |
| 20:52 |
Doyousketch2 |
I assume windows has a similar thing. that helps a lot when trying to find stuff like that |
| 20:53 |
Doyousketch2 |
just have it scan the whole minetest folder |
| 20:53 |
rarkenin |
Linux would make this 18 times easier. Just use grep -r 'search string' . |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
oh |
| 20:55 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
time to test health regen potion |
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rarkenin|Away |
Of course, you use Windows. |
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jordan4ibanez |
So it's not possible to make part of a nodebox not have collision detection? |
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Doyousketch2 |
perhaps with bounding boxes |
| 21:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
bounding boxes? |
| 21:04 |
Doyousketch2 |
when you define the selection area |
| 21:05 |
Doyousketch2 |
doesn't that define the interaction area? |
| 21:05 |
jordan4ibanez |
The selection area does not effect the interaction area for nodeboxes |
| 21:05 |
VanessaE |
hi all |
| 21:05 |
jordan4ibanez |
OR I am doing something wrong |
| 21:05 |
VanessaE |
there, one more dead fan nixed (GPU). |
| 21:06 |
Doyousketch2 |
dunno. gonna paint my sis's fingernails for a dance she has tonight. brb |
| 21:06 |
Taoki |
celeron55_: Uuuuuh. My problem was that I wa ssearching for default:dirt instead of default:dirt_with_grass. Keep forgetting they're different node types >.< |
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jordan4ibanez |
vanessae do nodeboxes selection area effect their collision detection? |
| 21:08 |
Jordach |
jordan4ibanez, yes |
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VanessaE |
yep |
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jordan4ibanez |
what am I doing wrong -_- http://pastie.org/private/geiadx29rz5xruqlhlqtw |
| 21:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
there is no selection box for "goop" but goop still makes things collide with it |
| 21:11 |
VanessaE |
good question, I have no idea of the cause there. |
| 21:11 |
Jordach |
jordan4ibanez, the selection box makes no difference to collision |
| 21:11 |
Jordach |
the nodebox is what gives the collision |
| 21:12 |
jordan4ibanez |
That's. What. I. Just. Asked. |
| 21:12 |
VanessaE |
er, I misread yet again |
| 21:12 |
VanessaE |
the nodebox itself IS the collision box I guess |
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jordan4ibanez |
Hmmm, there has to be some way to make the boundries of a single area of the nodebox in a glitched way so that it fails to collisiondetect, I've done it before, but I can't remember how |
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Jordach |
hello marktraceur |
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marktraceur |
Nope |
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| 21:15 |
jordan4ibanez |
What a butthole |
| 21:18 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: does making the node walkable help at all? |
| 21:19 |
VanessaE |
(or non-walkable...whichever one it is that lets you walk through it) |
| 21:19 |
paxcoder |
Last attempt: what do i need to change to add luminosity to default:stone served to my client by the server? |
| 21:19 |
Jordach |
paxcoder, you cant |
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VanessaE |
luminosity? you mean like emits light? |
| 21:20 |
Doyousketch2 |
paramtype = "light" |
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Doyousketch2 |
light_source = x |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Fix double free, null texture drop ce901f4c4c 2013-04-12T14:20:05-07:00 http://git.io/7cZSUg |
| 21:21 |
Doyousketch2 |
where x = somewhere bewtween 1 to 14 |
| 21:21 |
VanessaE |
what Sketch said. assuming that's what you wanted. |
| 21:21 |
paxcoder |
Jordach, why? I get served data, surely I can inject my own *somewhere* along the line? |
| 21:21 |
Jordach |
paxcoder, client side node prediction could be changed |
| 21:21 |
Jordach |
so it thinks everythings bright |
| 21:21 |
Jordach |
or just disable all light calculation |
| 21:22 |
paxcoder |
Jordach, what do i get in the second case? |
| 21:22 |
paxcoder |
(and how do i do it?) |
| 21:22 |
Jordach |
paxcoder, dunno |
| 21:22 |
Jordach |
rarkenin|Away, managed to remove the darkness |
| 21:22 |
jordan4ibanez |
No, what I'm making is like a bowl with stew in it, I need to make it so you cannot collide with the stew basically |
| 21:24 |
Doyousketch2 |
it must be doable, because otherwise stairs wouldn't exist |
| 21:24 |
paxcoder |
Doyousketch2, I added light_source to default:stone (games/minimal/mods/default/init.lua), but that's only client side |
| 21:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
what? stairs have no segments that don't collision detect |
| 21:24 |
paxcoder |
Doyousketch2, didn't need paramtype="light" |
| 21:25 |
Doyousketch2 |
put the stairs underwater, you walk through the water, yet still climb the stairs |
| 21:26 |
Doyousketch2 |
dunno tho. does it fill the void with air? |
| 21:26 |
Doyousketch2 |
can't recall any underwater stairs at the moment. I know torches have a void around 'em when underwater |
| 21:27 |
VanessaE |
nothing wrong with putting stairs under water. never seen a public swimming pool with shallow-end stair entry? |
| 21:27 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: are you trying to make everything a certain light level? |
| 21:27 |
VanessaE |
the void around them can be easily fixed if someone would just take the damn time to do it. |
| 21:28 |
paxcoder |
ShadowNinja, he was helping me |
| 21:28 |
paxcoder |
i just want to save coal |
| 21:29 |
ShadowNinja |
paxcoder: save coal? |
| 21:30 |
paxcoder |
ShadowNinja, torches are a hassle |
| 21:30 |
paxcoder |
ShadowNinja, i wanted luminescent stone (to see underground) |
| 21:31 |
paxcoder |
but disabling light calculation migiht save me some cycles too, and sounds like commenting one thing out (though i'm not familiar with the code, so i'm guessing) |
| 21:32 |
paxcoder |
ShadowNinja, the prob is this must be done client-side |
| 21:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
Here is/are the general way the cauldron works: |
| 21:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
1.) You throw an item in |
| 21:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
2.) It fills it up slightly |
| 21:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
3.) Over time it spits out potions |
| 21:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
4.) Fill it up too much, and it will explode |
| 21:33 |
paxcoder |
wat |
| 21:34 |
rarkenin|Away |
Jordach: Yeah, darkness is off, instadig without tools is on, and I can detect anticheat. |
| 21:34 |
ShadowNinja |
ok, heres a hint, modify decode_light in light.h |
| 21:34 |
Jordach |
rarkenin|Away, paxcoder wants the modified source you used |
| 21:34 |
Doyousketch2 |
ok, so how about this idea- make the stew viscous like water, and the bowl super-viscous so you can't walk through it |
| 21:35 |
ShadowNinja |
he just changed the table in light.cpp |
| 21:35 |
rarkenin|Away |
paxcoder: It's not that readable, and quite hacky. |
| 21:35 |
paxcoder |
rarkenin|Away, can you tell me what you modded for the light? |
| 21:35 |
ShadowNinja |
the table in light.cpp |
| 21:35 |
ShadowNinja |
you should modify decode_light in light.h |
| 21:35 |
rarkenin|Away |
I changed light.cpp, the first set of values to be 255, 245, 235, 225, etc bottom to top. There are still light gradients, but one can see really well in the dark. |
| 21:36 |
ShadowNinja |
just add return X to the top |
| 21:36 |
rarkenin|Away |
And it turned out to be much simpler than decode_light, and still looked good. |
| 21:36 |
Doyousketch2 |
liquid viscosity just changes based on your relation to the node |
| 21:36 |
ShadowNinja |
X is sonething like 150 or 255 |
| 21:37 |
rarkenin|Away |
ShadowNinja, changing the table still gives a nice gradient, just increases light level so you can see. |
| 21:37 |
ShadowNinja |
yes, I see |
| 21:37 |
rarkenin|Away |
OK. |
| 21:38 |
rarkenin|Away |
Sorry, I really can't think clearly, I was "accidentally" knocked into a wall yesterday. |
| 21:38 |
Doyousketch2 |
I was thinking that would be real awesome for all the water in minetest |
| 21:38 |
rarkenin|Away |
At least I think modifying the table is cleaner and gives better results. |
| 21:38 |
Doyousketch2 |
where the deeper you go, the more viscous it gets |
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paxcoder |
rarkenin|Away, ShadowNinja thx both |
| 21:39 |
rarkenin|Away |
No problem. |
| 21:39 |
rarkenin|Away |
And hello! |
| 21:39 |
ShadowNinja |
you're welcome |
| 21:39 |
Doyousketch2 |
and it's alpha gets darker |
| 21:39 |
us_0gb |
Hey. |
| 21:39 |
rarkenin|Away |
Doyousketch2: I haven't seen water get noticeable viscous as one goes deeper. It's actually easier to swim for short distances slightly below the water surface. |
| 21:40 |
Doyousketch2 |
up at the top it's super see-through, like alpha 40. and as you go deeper down, the alpha can increase to like 200 or something way down there |
| 21:40 |
paxcoder |
Doyousketch2, muddy business |
| 21:41 |
Doyousketch2 |
right, but that'd be a neat effect. if I had time, I'd code it in |
| 21:41 |
rarkenin|Away |
No, just the light level. The alpha should be by distance to node, as if you're a foot away from the bottom, you would be able to see it easilt if there was light. |
| 21:41 |
Doyousketch2 |
should be relatively easy |
| 21:42 |
rarkenin |
It would require changes to the 3d scene preparation code, and possibly even a hint of shaders. |
| 21:42 |
rarkenin |
It would be a cool shader for when in liquid, though. |
| 21:42 |
Doyousketch2 |
no no, just need to know the environment water level |
| 21:43 |
Doyousketch2 |
and then do those two things. if player is at water level alpha = 40 and viscosity = 1 |
| 21:43 |
Doyousketch2 |
if player is at say -50 water level, then alpha = 200 and visc = 3 |
| 21:44 |
Doyousketch2 |
just work it out from there, like they do the light table perhaps |
| 21:49 |
rarkenin |
No, this wouldn't be fully realistic, since even at -50, alpha to a node 2 meters away should be low. |
| 21:49 |
rarkenin |
It would require shaders or extreme changes to the rendering code since Irrlicht is set to just draw a rectangle with one color at the moment. |
| 21:49 |
rarkenin |
Perhaps a (volume) shader could do the trick. |
| 21:52 |
paxcoder |
gonna do this in decode_light: return (LIGHT_MAX + light_decode_table[light]) / 2; |
| 21:53 |
paxcoder |
that's keeping the ratios the same, but making everything at least as bright as LIGHT_MAX/2 |
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rarkenin |
paxcoder: I think that may cause an overflow since LIGHT_MAX is 255, but light values are stored as u8, which can store a value no higher than 255. |
| 21:58 |
paxcoder |
i don't see the prob |
| 21:59 |
paxcoder |
alternatively, this is guaranteed to need only 8 bits at all times: LIGHT_MAX/2 + light_decode_table[light]/2 |
| 21:59 |
paxcoder |
but shouldn't C++ be smart enough to do the arithmetic in something larger in the first case? |
| 22:00 |
paxcoder |
or do you mean 128*2 = 256? |
| 22:01 |
paxcoder |
because 255/2 = 127.5 should be rounded down, right? |
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paxcoder |
rarkenin |
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Doyousketch2 |
rarenken, I've changed the alpha values in water. 40 looks great at top. crystal clear, sun shining through. |
| 22:01 |
Doyousketch2 |
it defaults to 160, which is ok, but if you do alpha 200 then it looks super thick. |
| 22:01 |
rarkenin |
OK. |
| 22:02 |
rarkenin |
paxcoder: yes? |
| 22:02 |
paxcoder |
rarkenin, i don't see where it could overflow |
| 22:02 |
paxcoder |
rarkenin, see above |
| 22:04 |
rarkenin |
Ah, I see that now. But it'll get rounded... |
| 22:04 |
rarkenin |
And I didn;t notce you dividing light_max by 2. |
| 22:04 |
rarkenin |
Just subtract % more for safety. |
| 22:04 |
rarkenin |
*5 more |
| 22:05 |
paxcoder |
heh, why 5? |
| 22:09 |
paxcoder |
owait |
| 22:09 |
paxcoder |
LIGHT_MAX isn't 255 |
| 22:09 |
paxcoder |
it's 14 |
| 22:09 |
paxcoder |
gonna put explicit 255 |
| 22:10 |
paxcoder |
LIGHT_MAX is just an index of 255 in light_decode_table |
| 22:11 |
Doyousketch2 |
light max it technically 0 - 15. 0 is off, 15 reserved is sun. 14 is max for objects. |
| 22:11 |
paxcoder |
wonder why changing client.cpp recompiles only that file, but changing light.h recompiles everything |
| 22:11 |
paxcoder |
Doyousketch2, oh right. LIGHT_SUN is 255, LIGHT_MAX is 200 |
| 22:11 |
PilzAdam |
paxcoder, because light.h is included in everything and client.cpp not? |
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paxcoder |
PilzAdam, hmm |
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paxcoder |
ok, final version hopefully: return (light_decode_table[LIGHT_MAX] + light_decode_table[light]) / 2; |
| 22:13 |
paxcoder |
(i don't want it as bright as the sun :-P) |
| 22:13 |
paxcoder |
wait that doesn't make sense |
| 22:13 |
paxcoder |
sun is also in the table |
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PilzAdam |
paxcoder, what are you trying to do? |
| 22:13 |
paxcoder |
LIGHT_SUN then |
| 22:13 |
paxcoder |
PilzAdam, lighten things up :-P |
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jordan4ibanez |
Can we set the player's velocity now? |
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Kacey |
yep |
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| 22:27 |
PilzAdam |
no |
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Kacey |
i thought we could |
| 22:28 |
paxcoder |
yes, it's shiny |
| 22:28 |
paxcoder |
bb torches awww yiss |
| 22:31 |
aheinecke |
is there a minetest mailing list or is communication just done in the board? |
| 22:31 |
PilzAdam |
we dont have a mailing list |
| 22:31 |
PilzAdam |
most discussion is done at #minetest-dev |
| 22:32 |
aheinecke |
PilzAdam: thanks |
| 22:39 |
Taoki |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=83662#p83662 |
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jordan4ibanez |
I wish we could add in videos with bbcode |
| 22:43 |
jordan4ibanez |
That's cook taoki! |
| 22:43 |
jordan4ibanez |
cool* |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
| 23:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
goodbye |
| 23:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
I wish we had mesh support for nodes |
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rarkenin |
It would be quite useful. |
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ShadowNinja |
anyone feel like helping me get irrlicht to link? I am not quite an expert at this but I tried -lIrrlicht |
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khonkhortisan |
use cmake-gui if you have it |
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khonkhortisan |
there's two variables for irrlicht |
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khonkhortisan |
IRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR and IRRLICHT_LIBRARY (and IRRLICHT_SOURCE_DIR) |
| 23:45 |
ShadowNinja |
This is a ~5 line test program I wrote, now minetest btw |
| 23:46 |
ShadowNinja |
not* |
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paxcoder |
who's 313hummer? |
