| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:06 |
Kacey |
idk |
| 00:13 |
NotReallyNick |
Oh, right. I forgot, it's Mint that you're not supposed to upgrade without a clean install, not Ubuntu. |
| 00:13 |
Hwkiller |
I've upgraded mint too |
| 00:13 |
Hwkiller |
it wasn't as clean as ubuntu's |
| 00:13 |
Hwkiller |
but it worked |
| 00:25 |
salamanderrake |
when did minetest get slower then minecraft? |
| 00:27 |
Hwkiller |
I wouldn't know; haven't played minecraft |
| 00:28 |
rarkenin |
I'm off now, goodbye! |
| 00:32 |
mauvebic |
i found the solution to my ISP problem: beer |
| 00:32 |
Kacey |
that solves everything |
| 00:34 |
mauvebic |
right now the only other idea i got was to go down there to HQ and kick some asses, but jail sucks so i went with beer :P |
| 00:35 |
mauvebic |
i just wonder at what point incompetence becomes fraud |
| 00:35 |
NotReallyNick |
Minetest still actually runs at a decent speed on my computer. Minecraft doesn't. |
| 00:35 |
NotReallyNick |
So ... How is Minetest slower? |
| 00:35 |
Menche |
Minecraft runs a bit slower on my computer, and has more glitches than Minetest |
| 00:36 |
NotReallyNick |
I don't know about glitches. I didn't play it long enough to find the glitches. |
| 00:36 |
Menche |
sometimes directional keys would get stuck |
| 00:36 |
Menche |
usually while fighting >:( |
| 00:36 |
NotReallyNick |
My siblings talked me into trying Minecraft. |
| 00:37 |
Menche |
and sometimes a chunk doesn't load, so you bounce up and down in the space |
| 00:37 |
NotReallyNick |
AH! They've been blaming the keyboard for that glitch! |
| 00:37 |
Menche |
i could have my character running forward constantly with hands off the keyboard |
| 00:38 |
Menche |
so, when i'm repeatedly hitting that creeper and retreating, and suddenly run right into it... |
| 00:38 |
NotReallyNick |
Does it hurt to touch creepers? |
| 00:38 |
Menche |
no, but they detonate |
| 00:39 |
* NotReallyNick |
thinks he set his minetest.conf incorectly |
| 00:39 |
NotReallyNick |
Water seems to be acting like a finite liquid. |
| 00:40 |
NotReallyNick |
Yep. Set wrong. That also explains why a jungle appeared in my new world. |
| 00:41 |
Menche |
arrr, water doesn't dump on punch anymore |
| 00:41 |
NotReallyNick |
Yeah, I keep trying to do that too. |
| 00:41 |
Menche |
will take a while for me to adjust |
| 00:42 |
NotReallyNick |
I like how tools are no longer dropped on_place() though. That was just annoying. |
| 00:42 |
NotReallyNick |
Yeah, it'll take a while to adjust. Managable though. |
| 00:42 |
Menche |
it does make sense, punch = pick up node and rightclick = place |
| 00:43 |
NotReallyNick |
And ... water is fixed. |
| 00:44 |
VanessaE |
if anyone gives a shit :) gloopblocks just got another minor update, as did HDX. |
| 00:44 |
NotReallyNick |
There was a cave that was draining the ocean on me. |
| 00:44 |
NotReallyNick |
Nice! |
| 00:45 |
NotReallyNick |
Gloopblocks is cool. I like to look at HDX, but it's too high res for me to actually install. |
| 00:45 |
NotReallyNick |
Why do you have gloopblocks now? |
| 00:45 |
VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: try a lower-resolution one. 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512px. |
| 00:46 |
VanessaE |
I have gloopblocks because neko discontinued it. |
| 00:46 |
VanessaE |
and I didn't want to see it die of neglect |
| 00:46 |
Menche |
what does gloopblocks add? |
| 00:47 |
VanessaE |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4019 |
| 00:47 |
VanessaE |
a bunch of random blocks :) |
| 00:47 |
VanessaE |
it's becoming something of a repository for abandoned blocks I think are nice to have |
| 00:48 |
NotReallyNick |
Ah, I see. I think the only thing I don't like about gloopblocks is the cat/rainbow recipes. The only thing that makes the cats worthwhile it that they are trophies. Though I can see rainbows as a practical building material at times. |
| 00:48 |
VanessaE |
I've thought about that, not sure if I want to remove those recipes or not |
| 00:49 |
NotReallyNick |
I'd remove the rainbow recipe, and make the cat recipe give rainbows. But that's just me. |
| 00:49 |
NotReallyNick |
Or remove both. That's a good option too. |
| 00:50 |
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| 00:52 |
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| 00:53 |
NotReallyNick |
I see you have the Oerkki block. Do you know why that was dropped from moreblocks? |
| 00:54 |
sdzen |
no oerkki? |
| 00:54 |
VanessaE |
calinou didn't think it was useful I gues |
| 00:54 |
VanessaE |
s |
| 00:54 |
sdzen |
and more bircks is useful? |
| 00:54 |
sdzen |
bricks* |
| 00:54 |
VanessaE |
well, generally the moreblocks mod is useful :-) |
| 00:55 |
sdzen |
for building :) |
| 00:55 |
sdzen |
yes |
| 00:55 |
sdzen |
I actually liked those blocks |
| 00:55 |
sdzen |
built with them ALOT |
| 00:55 |
Hwkiller |
some seem to be broken |
| 00:55 |
Hwkiller |
like "rope" |
| 00:55 |
Hwkiller |
and I can't get stairs to work either, in general |
| 00:55 |
NotReallyNick |
I didn't use Oerkki blocks because bookshelves are so hard to come by. But they're not anymore. |
| 00:55 |
sdzen |
I made some epic rope for my server a long time ago |
| 00:56 |
sdzen |
never released it |
| 00:56 |
NotReallyNick |
Of course, now I'm hyper-stingy with iron ... |
| 00:56 |
sdzen |
really? |
| 00:56 |
sdzen |
I seem to have an overabundance |
| 00:56 |
Hwkiller |
same |
| 00:56 |
Hwkiller |
too much iron and copper (especially now that default + moreores includes it) |
| 00:56 |
sdzen |
in fact |
| 00:57 |
sdzen |
I want the amount of iron to be lowered actually |
| 00:57 |
sdzen |
and coal |
| 00:57 |
sdzen |
give abit more challenge |
| 00:57 |
sdzen |
Ive gotten a whole stack from a single cave before |
| 00:57 |
Hwkiller |
yeah, I have a ton of coal as well |
| 00:57 |
Hwkiller |
and where I'm currently mining there's a ton of everything really |
| 00:57 |
sdzen |
yes |
| 00:58 |
Hwkiller |
that being said, I'm pretty damn far deep |
| 00:58 |
sdzen |
I am about -50 blocks in |
| 00:58 |
sdzen |
takes me about 30 seconds to get down there |
| 00:58 |
sdzen |
not using a sneakavator |
| 00:58 |
Hwkiller |
how can you tell how deep you are |
| 00:58 |
sdzen |
f5 |
| 00:58 |
sdzen |
hit f5 |
| 00:58 |
Hwkiller |
hm... I'll test it in a second |
| 00:59 |
Hwkiller |
i'll try on my netbook; pretty sure it'll die in agony though |
| 00:59 |
Hwkiller |
doesn't handle minetest so well |
| 00:59 |
sdzen |
it used to show all the time |
| 00:59 |
sdzen |
then someone decided we dont need to see it in our face all the time |
| 00:59 |
sdzen |
though.... |
| 00:59 |
sdzen |
I always turn it on |
| 01:00 |
sdzen |
just for the coordinates |
| 01:00 |
Hwkiller |
hm... my server isn't feeding the media to my netbook |
| 01:00 |
Hwkiller |
just stuck at 0% |
| 01:00 |
Hwkiller |
oh nvm, it froze |
| 01:00 |
sdzen |
maybe we could have the coordinates show by default? but none of the other stuff? |
| 01:04 |
Hwkiller |
hm... yeah, my server is botched; hang on |
| 01:06 |
Hwkiller |
yeah, I'm at ~-80 |
| 01:06 |
Hwkiller |
lol |
| 01:08 |
Doyousketch2 |
sdzen, I was trying to accomplish that |
| 01:09 |
Doyousketch2 |
I did it, but it doubled up the info on 2 lines |
| 01:10 |
Hwkiller |
and I use carts |
| 01:10 |
Hwkiller |
[usually] they work fine |
| 01:10 |
Hwkiller |
they usually do fine going down; but going up gets them stuck about 50% of th etime |
| 01:10 |
Hwkiller |
it's still faster than going by foot though |
| 01:11 |
sdzen |
I actually have been thinking if using jeijas slopes for the uphill and downhill rails and having them be solid would help any |
| 01:12 |
sdzen |
for a smoother ride at least |
| 01:12 |
Hwkiller |
that all sounds foreign to me |
| 01:12 |
Hwkiller |
carts are darn buggy though; sometimes I just drift through walls until th eserver realizes I'm no longer on a track |
| 01:12 |
sdzen |
c'est tres simple |
| 01:12 |
Hwkiller |
it puts me back.. but wtf |
| 01:17 |
Doyousketch2 |
here's a pic so you get an idea what I mean - http://oi45.tinypic.com/2l9gmy0.jpg |
| 01:18 |
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| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
gee, I recognize those textures ;) |
| 01:19 |
Doyousketch2 |
lols, yup |
| 01:21 |
Doyousketch2 |
I should start keeping a notebook of where snippets of code are located |
| 01:24 |
NotReallyNick |
I want iron level to stay the same, and have copper no longer rely on iron. |
| 01:25 |
NotReallyNick |
In moreores, there was a dedicated metal for that: tin. |
| 01:26 |
VanessaE |
you mean bronze. |
| 01:26 |
VanessaE |
bronze relies on iron :) |
| 01:26 |
VanessaE |
(when, most of us agree, it should have been tin, but whatever) |
| 01:27 |
NotReallyNick |
Copper relies on iron. THere is no anything that can be made with copper besides bronze, which requires iron. I meant what I said, copper relies on iron too. |
| 01:27 |
mauvebic |
two beers later and im still ticked lol |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
you can make copper blocks without using iron... |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
and copper can be used elsewhere also; technic and homedecor need it, for example/ |
| 01:27 |
NotReallyNick |
Can you? WHen were copper blocks added? |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
oh wait |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
no you're right, copper blocks got missed |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
nevertheless, copper ore/lumps/ingots don't depend on iron, only bronze does. |
| 01:28 |
NotReallyNick |
Technic and homedecore aren't in the base game. There's a recipe for everything if you look outside the base game. |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
true |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
but to say that A depends on B because B depends on A is not accurate. |
| 01:28 |
NotReallyNick |
Copper DOES depend on iron. Without iron, copper can't be used for ANYTHING. |
| 01:29 |
NotReallyNick |
Copper literally has no function without iron. |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
that'll change I'm sure |
| 01:29 |
NotReallyNick |
I sure hope so. For now, I can't even compress copper as blocks for storage. |
| 01:32 |
NotReallyNick |
I'm also hoping give_initial_stuff and bones are moved to common. There's no good reason to keep them in places where custom games can't access them. |
| 01:33 |
mauvebic |
give initial stuff should just be in default, its so tiny |
| 01:34 |
mauvebic |
fewer folders to scan |
| 01:34 |
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| 01:34 |
NotReallyNick |
Things in common are not scanned unless required by the game. |
| 01:34 |
mauvebic |
but still |
| 01:34 |
mauvebic |
if you can have mapgen.lua |
| 01:34 |
mauvebic |
you can have give_intial.lue |
| 01:35 |
sdzen |
where did you get that thought NotReallyNick? |
| 01:35 |
NotReallyNick |
SO no scanning issues. Only games that want give_initial_stuff would scan for it. |
| 01:35 |
NotReallyNick |
*So |
| 01:35 |
mauvebic |
but who bothers to remove it? |
| 01:35 |
* sdzen |
uses give initial stuff |
| 01:35 |
NotReallyNick |
It would only be included by minetest_game and custom games that want it. |
| 01:36 |
* NotReallyNick |
used to give initial stuff until give_initial_stuff was made inaccessible |
| 01:36 |
mauvebic |
this common stuff seems to add more confusion than it removes lol |
| 01:37 |
NotReallyNick |
It would remove all confusion if everything was added to common. It's the fact that some things are NOT in common that is the issue. |
| 01:37 |
mauvebic |
yeah something has to be done, either the old system, or all mods in one folder |
| 01:38 |
sdzen |
I dont like this new system |
| 01:38 |
mauvebic |
me neither but we need to come up with something better before anyone changes anything |
| 01:38 |
mauvebic |
this idea (pull requests) of multiple commons is, nuts lol |
| 01:38 |
NotReallyNick |
I think the new system could be implemented better, but it's way better than the old system. |
| 01:39 |
sdzen |
I didn't realize the system existed so I kept getting my sources from celeron55/minetest_game and celeron55/minetest |
| 01:39 |
Hwkiller |
can someone join my server and tell me whether performance is awful or not? |
| 01:39 |
NotReallyNick |
We shouldn't need five copies of default just because five games use it. |
| 01:39 |
mauvebic |
well this common stuff makes no difference to me, i have the same game folder as before with no motivation to adapt lol |
| 01:39 |
sdzen |
yes |
| 01:40 |
Hwkiller |
can I PM the ip? |
| 01:40 |
mauvebic |
until its simplified at least |
| 01:41 |
Hwkiller |
seems like there should just be a common mod dump, then gametypes defined as configs, like world.mt |
| 01:41 |
sdzen |
me and ray8888 were looking at the new game modes, he looked at the survival one and got sooooooo happy! then I clicked the link and he nearly broke a window. |
| 01:41 |
Kacey |
http://ifunny.mobi/#0yhdRbzY |
| 01:41 |
NotReallyNick |
Exactly, all plugins in one directory. |
| 01:42 |
sdzen |
yes that is a good idea |
| 01:42 |
mauvebic |
make a pull |
| 01:42 |
mauvebic |
its gonna take a month of debate on github before it gets through anyhow, better get started now |
| 01:43 |
NotReallyNick |
I did make a pull request. |
| 01:43 |
sdzen |
hehe |
| 01:43 |
mauvebic |
i saw a pull request for multiple commons, wheres the other? |
| 01:43 |
NotReallyNick |
I made it a while ago, no comments. |
| 01:43 |
sdzen |
mauvebic: I still want my crafts in. |
| 01:43 |
NotReallyNick |
Mine is a pull to common, to add the missing plugins. |
| 01:43 |
mauvebic |
i saw some of the comments regarding get players' IP |
| 01:43 |
sdzen |
bad stuff? |
| 01:43 |
mauvebic |
i was surprised privacy was an issue at all |
| 01:43 |
sdzen |
privacy shoit? |
| 01:43 |
mauvebic |
yeah |
| 01:43 |
mauvebic |
fucking ridiculous |
| 01:44 |
mauvebic |
its your server, youre entitled to know who's logged on |
| 01:44 |
sdzen |
I can already get the IP of a minetest client connecting |
| 01:44 |
mauvebic |
yeah by going through the logs |
| 01:44 |
sdzen |
or banning them saves it in a txt file |
| 01:44 |
sdzen |
honestly its already there |
| 01:45 |
sdzen |
and people need to stop being so privacy conscience |
| 01:45 |
mauvebic |
but i wanna be able to write my own functions in lua to block specific IPs or IP ranges |
| 01:45 |
sdzen |
there needs to be a better banning system |
| 01:45 |
sdzen |
period |
| 01:45 |
mauvebic |
well if they cant provide that, then provide the IPs so we can do it |
| 01:45 |
mauvebic |
no-brainer |
| 01:46 |
mauvebic |
like one should care about the privacy of a griefer lol |
| 01:46 |
sdzen |
some person tried to get into the VPN I have running to my minetest server |
| 01:46 |
mauvebic |
you get as much privacy visiting any php/asp enabled site |
| 01:47 |
sdzen |
it was funny watchign them fail |
| 01:47 |
* sdzen |
encryption ftw |
| 01:47 |
mauvebic |
well christ, why do you think my main map aint public? i dont want random douches destroying it |
| 01:47 |
sdzen |
people are douches |
| 01:47 |
mauvebic |
yes, yes they are |
| 01:48 |
sdzen |
and I love how people assume that they have privacy |
| 01:48 |
mauvebic |
and kids especially dont "get it" when you kick/ban them |
| 01:48 |
sdzen |
I know one person in this world who has true privacy |
| 01:48 |
sdzen |
and nobody has seen him in years |
| 01:48 |
mauvebic |
henry kissinger? |
| 01:48 |
NakedFury |
god |
| 01:48 |
sdzen |
hehe |
| 01:48 |
sdzen |
some random dude |
| 01:49 |
sdzen |
the government looked for him abit |
| 01:49 |
sdzen |
they couldnt find him |
| 01:49 |
mauvebic |
im hard to track too, had over 30 jobs |
| 01:49 |
sdzen |
nice |
| 01:49 |
mauvebic |
dozen adresses |
| 01:49 |
mauvebic |
claustrophobes dont stike around anywhere for long lol |
| 01:50 |
sdzen |
you a claustrophobe? |
| 01:50 |
mauvebic |
yeah, pretty random and pretty bad |
| 01:50 |
* sdzen |
is a xenophobe |
| 01:50 |
mauvebic |
lol dont like foreigners in your country? |
| 01:50 |
sdzen |
strangers |
| 01:50 |
mauvebic |
me neither |
| 01:50 |
sdzen |
I keep thinking they are spying on me |
| 01:50 |
mauvebic |
to the point of being labelled antisocial |
| 01:51 |
sdzen |
yes |
| 01:51 |
mauvebic |
naw, when i meet a stranger who's too nice, i automatically think "what do they want from me?" |
| 01:51 |
sdzen |
people ask why I am testing the drink for poison |
| 01:51 |
mauvebic |
0 trust in people lol |
| 01:52 |
mauvebic |
i prefer cats, they are pretty straightforward about what they want lol |
| 01:52 |
sdzen |
it wouldnt be that hard to make all the game modes selectable through settings would it? |
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| 01:52 |
sdzen |
yes |
| 01:52 |
sdzen |
cats are good |
| 01:52 |
sdzen |
they dont stab you in the back |
| 01:53 |
mauvebic |
cats are like children that never learn to speak or ask for expensive things lol |
| 01:53 |
sdzen |
if they are in a bad mood they might gouge your eyes out |
| 01:53 |
sdzen |
but... |
| 01:53 |
sdzen |
somewhat loyal to you |
| 01:53 |
* VanessaE |
wonders why saplings aren't growing on her map |
| 01:53 |
sdzen |
haha |
| 01:53 |
mauvebic |
except when she sticks her paw in my mouth while im asleep... lol |
| 01:53 |
sdzen |
VanessaE |
| 01:53 |
mauvebic |
what kind of saplings? |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: default:sapling |
| 01:54 |
sdzen |
minetest_register_alias("sapling", "default:sapling") |
| 01:54 |
sdzen |
add that to default |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
default/init.lua:minetest.register_alias("sapling", "default:sapling") |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
it's already there. |
| 01:54 |
sdzen |
hmmm? |
| 01:54 |
NotReallyNick |
VanessaE: Are you using latest common and are the saplings on dirt? |
| 01:54 |
sdzen |
then why? |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: yes, but it's on grass |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
(not dirt) |
| 01:55 |
NotReallyNick |
Move the saplings to dirt then. |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
you've gotta be kidding me. |
| 01:55 |
* sdzen |
is using the latest zenophobe (not sharing my secrets) |
| 01:55 |
* VanessaE |
tries it |
| 01:55 |
sdzen |
it works on grass |
| 01:55 |
sdzen |
I had a bunch of them growing on grass |
| 01:55 |
NotReallyNick |
No, only dirt and dirt with gras. |
| 01:56 |
NotReallyNick |
*grass |
| 01:56 |
sdzen |
and I had the sapling not growing issue as well |
| 01:56 |
NotReallyNick |
It doesn't work on just grass. |
| 01:56 |
NotReallyNick |
default:grass_1 |
| 01:56 |
sdzen |
dude |
| 01:56 |
mauvebic |
bizarre, why would the default saplings not worK? |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
oh I didn't have it on *that* kind of grass, I had it on dirt_with_grass |
| 01:56 |
sdzen |
there is only default:dirt_with_grass |
| 01:56 |
mauvebic |
oooh, add a full grass node to default :-0 |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
sdzen: there is also default:grass_[1..5] which is something different. |
| 01:57 |
NotReallyNick |
There's also default:grass_<1-5> |
| 01:57 |
* sdzen |
never added that |
| 01:57 |
sdzen |
honestly I have no issues running an outdated default |
| 01:57 |
NotReallyNick |
My jungle saplings grow. I'll try regular ones. |
| 01:57 |
sdzen |
it works better then common |
| 01:57 |
NakedFury |
would it be too much if we had fire spread or burn dirt with grass blocks into just normal dirt blocks? |
| 01:57 |
mauvebic |
1-5? |
| 01:57 |
sdzen |
yes! |
| 01:57 |
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| 01:57 |
sdzen |
NakedFury I was going to make a pullrequest for that |
| 01:58 |
mauvebic |
for fire: particlespawner would make it look *real* nice |
| 01:58 |
NotReallyNick |
Yeah, five grasses. It should be 0-4, but whatever. |
| 01:58 |
mauvebic |
the only hurdle is lighting the netities |
| 01:58 |
NakedFury |
nice to see someone shares my idea |
| 01:58 |
NakedFury |
not mine, but the idea |
| 01:58 |
khonkhortisan |
Fire turning grass into dirt might seem like a good idea, but it lets fire spread from one forest to the next |
| 01:58 |
Hwkiller |
anyone else having problems with not being able to hurt mobs? |
| 01:58 |
khonkhortisan |
If it turned into a special grass-only fire, or didn't spread, then it would be fine. |
| 01:58 |
mauvebic |
we should ask a farmer what a field looks like once burnt |
| 01:58 |
mauvebic |
thats how they rotated crops i think |
| 01:59 |
NotReallyNick |
Mobs never seem to hurt me, but it's because they aren't installed. |
| 01:59 |
Kacey |
night all |
| 01:59 |
sdzen |
just have it if grass is near node fire:basic_flame then add node default:dirt |
| 01:59 |
NotReallyNick |
Night. |
| 01:59 |
NakedFury |
khonkhortisan: easily fixed with adding a chance that it wont spread |
| 01:59 |
sdzen |
then it doesnt spread |
| 01:59 |
mauvebic |
though for farm soil, which is already a seperate node(s), they coulld have a "nutrients" value |
| 01:59 |
sdzen |
and gets the effect wanted |
| 01:59 |
NakedFury |
or lets say modify Fire to have stages. a big fire using all the area a normal node would use medium and small fires |
| 02:00 |
NakedFury |
like how wheat grows in the game minecraft |
| 02:00 |
sdzen |
I like that idea as well |
| 02:00 |
NakedFury |
small fires are maybe like 1/3 the size of a node |
| 02:00 |
VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: any luck with the default saplign? |
| 02:00 |
VanessaE |
sapling* |
| 02:00 |
NotReallyNick |
Sapling planted. Time to wait. |
| 02:00 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 02:00 |
VanessaE |
can someone take a look at my code and see if maybe I screwed up somewhere? |
| 02:00 |
NotReallyNick |
And ... It grew. |
| 02:01 |
sdzen |
maybe you messed up the alias? |
| 02:01 |
NotReallyNick |
Okay, where is the code? |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/VanessaE/moretrees/blob/master/node_defs.lua#L203 |
| 02:01 |
mauvebic |
i thought you mentionned tweaking mapgen lua to air for trees? |
| 02:01 |
mauvebic |
if you did that, saplings wont grow indeed |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
sdzen: I don't edit anything under default. I'll occasionally redefine stuff, for example ^^^^^^ that code successfully redefines default trunks, leaves, apples but the redefined sapling and wood don't actually change (they're still reporting with old textures/descriptions in-game) |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: wha? you mean the default abm uses the MAPGEN ALIAS for saplings?! |
| 02:02 |
mauvebic |
theres your problem |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
oh FFS. |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
what moron wrote that? |
| 02:03 |
sdzen |
sounds like something pilzadam or c55 would do |
| 02:03 |
mauvebic |
noticed this when i made my space game :P back when you couldn't disable trees with mg_flags |
| 02:03 |
NotReallyNick |
Hmm. Is default in moretrees depends.txt? |
| 02:03 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: are you here? can you commit a quick fix for that please? |
| 02:03 |
VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: yes. |
| 02:03 |
VanessaE |
and..my sapling disappeared. turned into air. |
| 02:03 |
VanessaE |
G*d damn it all. |
| 02:04 |
mauvebic |
lol its a good thing i remembered what you said, or we might have been on this for days lol |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
THIS is why I wanted a proper, clean way to disable trees from within my own mod damn it! |
| 02:04 |
NotReallyNick |
Hmm. I have no idea. Sorry. |
| 02:04 |
mauvebic |
why not remove the trees flag? |
| 02:04 |
NotReallyNick |
Yeah, that'd work. |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: because there's no way to READ that flag (or any flag) from a mod. |
| 02:04 |
mauvebic |
now im confused lol |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
and there's no way to set it either. |
| 02:05 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: I think we are safe from LM now :-) |
| 02:05 |
mauvebic |
your mod should ignore the flag either way - if people installed it, they obviously want your trees |
| 02:05 |
sdzen |
yes |
| 02:05 |
NotReallyNick |
Don't read it from the plugin. If people want trees disabled, they'll do it themselves. |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: not necessarily, for the longest time, I left beech trees disabled because they slowed the map generator down too much |
| 02:06 |
mauvebic |
well you can disable specific trees from within the mods, but the mg flags themselves are for the mapgen, not mods people install afterwards |
| 02:06 |
mauvebic |
if people complain, theyre dumb |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
yeah, and growing saplings -> trees is not mapgen |
| 02:06 |
mauvebic |
naw but the mapgen places trees on new chunks, so it does fall under the mapgen |
| 02:07 |
NotReallyNick |
Why do you want to take over the default saplings? |
| 02:07 |
mauvebic |
yeah id leave the default trees be |
| 02:07 |
mauvebic |
in case people want them |
| 02:07 |
mauvebic |
your trees are pretty tall, they dont fit everywhere |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: hard to explain. |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
I'm replacing default trees with beech trees, which are only a tad bit taller, and thicker. |
| 02:08 |
NotReallyNick |
Just give beech trees their own saplings. |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
and are l-system based |
| 02:08 |
mauvebic |
i mean i love them, but i still hold onto default trees and my even smaller slim trees in certain places |
| 02:08 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: let me rephrase that, you are still op again |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: heh, ok |
| 02:08 |
sdzen |
oh no |
| 02:08 |
sdzen |
op is active |
| 02:08 |
sdzen |
run for the hills |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
ok so now I have to override the default sapling abm |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
fuck |
| 02:09 |
mauvebic |
keeps the peace when ppl know an OP is on |
| 02:10 |
* sdzen |
cracks knuckles |
| 02:10 |
mauvebic |
or not lol |
| 02:10 |
sdzen |
time to cause trouble |
| 02:10 |
NotReallyNick |
Default sapling is in C++, not Lua. Good luck. |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
shit. |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
stupid stupid stupid |
| 02:10 |
mauvebic |
youd think mobs would be cpp, and default trees in lua lol |
| 02:10 |
sdzen |
trees should actually grow |
| 02:10 |
NotReallyNick |
Why? Just leave the poor default trees alone. |
| 02:10 |
sdzen |
not like on node to a whole effin tree |
| 02:10 |
mauvebic |
that can be painful |
| 02:11 |
mauvebic |
growing trees dont stop growing |
| 02:11 |
sdzen |
ahem |
| 02:11 |
ShadowNinja |
well this is bizare, rsync created a world dir under my backup dur so that it is making two copies |
| 02:11 |
mauvebic |
unless you wanna waste resources calculating their size |
| 02:12 |
sdzen |
hmmm |
| 02:12 |
mauvebic |
but trees are a simple thing, and should behave as so |
| 02:14 |
NotReallyNick |
I think current tree growth is fine. The game isn't meant to be realistic. |
| 02:14 |
mauvebic |
not to that degree anyways |
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| 02:16 |
jordan4ibanez |
https://github.com/minetest/common/pull/26 |
| 02:16 |
NotReallyNick |
Heck no, jordan4ibanez. |
| 02:16 |
jordan4ibanez |
NotReallyNick you are so negative about everything |
| 02:17 |
jordan4ibanez |
People like me like fire, and think there should be a way to keep it lite |
| 02:17 |
NotReallyNick |
Not everything, just stupid things. |
| 02:17 |
jordan4ibanez |
s/lite/lit |
| 02:17 |
jordan4ibanez |
IGNORED! |
| 02:17 |
NotReallyNick |
Fire needs fuel. Unless the obsidian burns away, then it shouldn't keep it lit. |
| 02:18 |
NotReallyNick |
And ... commented. |
| 02:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
But yeah, this is pretty good, if there are riots over this, maybe someone could come around and change it to {group:fire_fuel} or something, and create a fire_fuel block |
| 02:18 |
NotReallyNick |
A fuel block that burns away, maybe. |
| 02:21 |
NotReallyNick |
But a fuel block that burns away is the same as a flammable node, so I don't see the point. Longer lasting maybe? |
| 02:22 |
sdzen |
I say |
| 02:22 |
sdzen |
we make it powered by mese |
| 02:22 |
sdzen |
mese plus fire |
| 02:22 |
sdzen |
equals boom |
| 02:23 |
Menche |
mese is a sort of "magic" thing so i think making that sustain fire would be fine |
| 02:23 |
NotReallyNick |
I think lava should cool into mese, not obsidian. |
| 02:23 |
NotReallyNick |
Maybe mese ore. |
| 02:23 |
mauvebic |
meh, lava should cool into dark rock |
| 02:24 |
Hwkiller |
then mese would be way easy to get though |
| 02:24 |
Menche |
what about usually cools into cobble, with a chance of cooling into mese? |
| 02:24 |
mauvebic |
too much realism vs not enough |
| 02:24 |
Hwkiller |
I could go down to my mine with a bucket of water and get a ton of mese |
| 02:24 |
mauvebic |
mese could be regenerative |
| 02:24 |
NotReallyNick |
And you could do that with obsidian. The difference? |
| 02:24 |
mauvebic |
if you dont dig it all, it expands |
| 02:24 |
NotReallyNick |
Yeah, almost all things shouls be regenerative. |
| 02:25 |
* NotReallyNick |
is HIGHLY in favor of renewability |
| 02:25 |
mauvebic |
of course, the basic question is how do resources/ores form in the first place? |
| 02:25 |
NotReallyNick |
True. |
| 02:26 |
mauvebic |
if we figure that out, you can regenerate along the same lines |
| 02:26 |
NotReallyNick |
If I had that answer, I'd have a pull request in already. |
| 02:26 |
mauvebic |
wiki should have basic info |
| 02:26 |
mauvebic |
but im still working on sea 55 |
| 02:26 |
NotReallyNick |
Info on where ores come from? |
| 02:26 |
Menche |
maybe some method of crushing / smelting stone to get a chance at a few ingots |
| 02:26 |
mauvebic |
google it, either wiki or yahoo answers or stackexchange will have the answer |
| 02:27 |
mauvebic |
you usually find small nuggets of gold in some rivers too, could be cool |
| 02:27 |
NotReallyNick |
Before the obsidian update, I was planning to make lava rarely cool into ores. |
| 02:27 |
mauvebic |
maps should involve as much discovery as possible |
| 02:27 |
sdzen |
what obsidian update? |
| 02:27 |
mauvebic |
different resources to exploit to create different industries and towns |
| 02:27 |
Menche |
NotReallyNick, that sounds cool |
| 02:27 |
NakedFury |
^ I like that too |
| 02:28 |
NotReallyNick |
Too late though, lava is finite now. So anything made from lava is finite. |
| 02:28 |
* Menche |
says screw obsidian |
| 02:28 |
* NotReallyNick |
agrees |
| 02:28 |
mauvebic |
yeah seriously, i wasn't much interested in obsidian mod before it was default lol |
| 02:28 |
mauvebic |
go with real ores and diamonds instead |
| 02:29 |
NotReallyNick |
Obsidian was never cool. It was copied just to mimic Minecraft. |
| 02:29 |
Menche |
i think diamonds are sorta redundant, mese was our rare, valuable "trophy" ore |
| 02:29 |
mauvebic |
well you need valuables to make mining and money worthwhile |
| 02:29 |
NotReallyNick |
True. But diamonds aren't causing me added issues, so I mostly ignore them. |
| 02:29 |
* sdzen |
"okay thats it! we need to be original!" |
| 02:30 |
* sdzen |
starts copying inifiniminer |
| 02:30 |
NotReallyNick |
Four tool types was more than enough though. |
| 02:30 |
Menche |
...and i'm not sure who thought making tools out of pure diamond was sensible |
| 02:30 |
mauvebic |
well to be original, we need to propose and make pulls for something better than whats there |
| 02:31 |
Menche |
coating with diamond dust, maybe. that is done irl |
| 02:31 |
NotReallyNick |
I'm trying, I have five pulls to common in right now. |
| 02:31 |
mauvebic |
diamonds are the best thing to cut with |
| 02:32 |
NotReallyNick |
Menche: If you are proposing diamond plus steel, I disagree. Steel is too valuable to waste on tools. |
| 02:32 |
Menche |
what else is steel used for? i use steel tools. |
| 02:32 |
Hwkiller |
steel is too valuable? |
| 02:32 |
Hwkiller |
it's so freaking common though |
| 02:33 |
jordan4ibanez |
We should have iron tools instead of steel |
| 02:33 |
Menche |
maybe any type of tool could be enhanced by encrusting it with diamond dust |
| 02:33 |
sdzen |
yes |
| 02:33 |
NotReallyNick |
Steel is the only thing you can make stuff out of that other people can't wreck. So you need a lot of it. |
| 02:33 |
Menche |
...? |
| 02:33 |
jordan4ibanez |
we can make a forge, which when you combine iron with obsidian, fueled by a lava bucket you get steel |
| 02:33 |
NotReallyNick |
Encrusting any tool sonds good. |
| 02:33 |
Hwkiller |
or play with better people |
| 02:34 |
* NotReallyNick |
builds elaborate houses out of steel doors and locked chests |
| 02:35 |
jordan4ibanez |
since steel needs carbon, and since obsidian contains carbon, it would be the best source |
| 02:35 |
Menche |
coal contains carbon |
| 02:35 |
NotReallyNick |
I don't really do that, but I do pawn off every thing I own to get more steel. |
| 02:36 |
* NotReallyNick |
only uses coal for torches, but wood has carbon too |
| 02:36 |
mauvebic |
and burning forests gies coal too technically |
| 02:36 |
jordan4ibanez |
well that too, and why aren't trees able to be burned into charcoal anymore? that could be a source also |
| 02:36 |
mauvebic |
or coal ash |
| 02:36 |
Menche |
really burning any plant matter would produce some carbon |
| 02:36 |
mauvebic |
and dead biomatter leads to shale |
| 02:37 |
Menche |
don't have a problem with iron smelting to steel |
| 02:37 |
NotReallyNick |
I'd LOVE to have smelting trees give coal again. |
| 02:37 |
mauvebic |
who removed it, and why? |
| 02:37 |
* Menche |
thinks that gravel should have a *very* rare chance of dropping some kind of ore |
| 02:38 |
* NotReallyNick |
loves Ubuntu's ability to dim the monitor on his laptop. Mint lacks that. |
| 02:38 |
sdzen |
quartz |
| 02:38 |
sdzen |
:) |
| 02:38 |
Menche |
and that you should be able to somehow crush cobble and stone into gravel |
| 02:38 |
NotReallyNick |
That works for me. |
| 02:38 |
sdzen |
ive got it |
| 02:38 |
sdzen |
drop for cobble becomes gravel |
| 02:38 |
sdzen |
gravel is smelted back to cobble |
| 02:38 |
NotReallyNick |
Okay. Good. |
| 02:38 |
sdzen |
cobble to stone |
| 02:38 |
jordan4ibanez |
these are great ideas |
| 02:38 |
Menche |
that would be a bit inconvenient |
| 02:39 |
NotReallyNick |
Maybe cobble crafts into gravel then. |
| 02:39 |
Menche |
or make a new kind of crafting mechanism, a "press" |
| 02:39 |
mauvebic |
if we had a default grinder cobble could be turned to gravel |
| 02:39 |
NotReallyNick |
And gravel crafts into desert sand. |
| 02:39 |
mauvebic |
a plain one not something that depends on half a dozen megamods |
| 02:39 |
Menche |
would crush cobble into gravel, papyrus into paper |
| 02:40 |
NotReallyNick |
And stone smelts into desert stone .... |
| 02:40 |
Menche |
could crush wood planks into sticks |
| 02:40 |
sdzen |
yes! |
| 02:40 |
mauvebic |
wood -> wood chips |
| 02:40 |
Menche |
clay into clay bricks, which would need smelting into normal bricks |
| 02:40 |
sdzen |
we also should have a workbench in the default |
| 02:40 |
sdzen |
a 4x4 one |
| 02:41 |
sdzen |
and transfer a bunch of recipes to it |
| 02:41 |
NotReallyNick |
Okay, as long as we keep our 3^2 menu craft grid. |
| 02:41 |
mauvebic |
well player crafting should be smaller grid than a workbench, automatically limiting what you can do away from town |
| 02:41 |
sdzen |
yes |
| 02:41 |
sdzen |
so 4x4 for the benche |
| 02:41 |
NotReallyNick |
No, a smaller crafting grid would suck. |
| 02:41 |
sdzen |
and 3x3 for the other |
| 02:41 |
Menche |
what about making the heads of tools crafted separate from the handle? too complicated? |
| 02:42 |
sdzen |
nope |
| 02:42 |
sdzen |
I wanted to do that |
| 02:42 |
sdzen |
it got shot down by anyone I pitched it to though |
| 02:42 |
Menche |
have the tool head affect digging speed, and the handle affect the # of uses |
| 02:42 |
NotReallyNick |
Hmm. Not complicated, but ... I guess if the tool heads were stackable, that would be okay. |
| 02:42 |
sdzen |
haha yes! |
| 02:42 |
Menche |
...would need a ton of tool definitions, though |
| 02:43 |
sdzen |
doesnt matter |
| 02:43 |
* Menche |
doesn't think see why anything should be un-stackable |
| 02:44 |
Menche |
err, ignore the "think", typo :P |
| 02:44 |
NakedFury |
I would have prefered to use a very small crafting window exactly like in minecraft and then craft the necessary crafting stations like other many games use |
| 02:44 |
sdzen |
nah |
| 02:44 |
sdzen |
with bigger windows |
| 02:44 |
sdzen |
you can have more realistic recipes |
| 02:44 |
sdzen |
somewhat more realistic |
| 02:44 |
Menche |
think that you should be able to use recipes in the furnace |
| 02:44 |
Menche |
as in, multiple input slots |
| 02:45 |
bas080 |
Is there a best practice in lua for checking if list contains string? It is a one dimensional array. Or is there a minetest api function i should use? |
| 02:45 |
NakedFury |
its not realistic to craft everything by hand without special tools or a station |
| 02:45 |
Menche |
that takes different patterns like the normal grid |
| 02:45 |
Menche |
or make a "forge" that is separate from the furnace |
| 02:45 |
bas080 |
NakedFury, that is exactly what i am working on atm |
| 02:46 |
sdzen |
NakedFury: like I said, convert many of the recipes to a 4x4 bench |
| 02:46 |
sdzen |
limit the 3x3's recipes by alot, but still have a few things |
| 02:46 |
Menche |
and a "mortar and pestel" or "mixer" for making and mixing dyes? |
| 02:47 |
bas080 |
But does anyone know an answer for my question. "Is there a best practice in lua for checking if list contains string? It is a one dimensional array. Or is there a minetest api function i should use?" |
| 02:48 |
NakedFury |
yes menche |
| 02:48 |
NakedFury |
anvil to craft metal tool |
| 02:48 |
bas080 |
NakedFury, if you wait a bit i have a descent start for what you and Menche are talking about. |
| 02:48 |
Menche |
we have been discussing like half a dozen different things here :P |
| 02:49 |
bas080 |
Very good! |
| 02:49 |
bas080 |
New ideas |
| 02:49 |
Menche |
once someone made an api for registering new types of crafting, forget where |
| 02:50 |
* Menche |
digs through old pages of Mod Releases |
| 02:50 |
Hwkiller |
found another massive cave; awesome |
| 02:50 |
bas080 |
I am making a tool which allows to make crafting nodes that only allow certain crafts. They only allow nodes with certain crafts |
| 02:50 |
NakedFury |
in Skyrym and other rpg online game you need different stations for different crafting types |
| 02:50 |
bas080 |
they only allow certain nodes to craft with* |
| 02:51 |
Menche |
so, a "press" for crushing rock and making paper, a "forge" for crafting the heads of tools, a "mixer" for dyes |
| 02:51 |
bas080 |
so you can make crafting benches for specific crafts |
| 02:51 |
bas080 |
yes that can be made. it is very generic. |
| 02:52 |
bas080 |
I can easily add the capability to edit the formspec per craft bench. I just need to know how to check if string is in a certain array and i can show you the first prototype |
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| 02:53 |
bas080 |
Version two will have crafting bench per mod. It will allow an api to add a crafting bench for one's mod. |
| 02:56 |
bas080 |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81851#p81851 <<< if you read the comments starting from sokomine you can see the idea forming |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
fuck it, I give up on the tree replacement code. |
| 02:58 |
bas080 |
replacing what trees? the default ones or moretrees trees? |
| 02:58 |
VanessaE |
ripped it all out, reverted beech trees to just act like any other tree. disabled by default. want them? turn them on and turn off default trees in map_meta.txt and pray to your favorite $DIETY that you don't botch that file. |
| 03:00 |
Hwkiller |
down to -101 |
| 03:00 |
NotReallyNick |
Put that setting into minetest.conf, not an internal config file. |
| 03:02 |
VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: won't do any good until a mod can read from map_meta.txt properly |
| 03:03 |
VanessaE |
well at least saplings are working properly now. |
| 03:03 |
NotReallyNick |
No, I mean set the moretrees variable in minetest.conf. That way, when people update moretrees, they don't have to edit the config again. |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
still wouldn't do any good. |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
you have to edit map_meta.txt to turn default trees off. |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
so it's still two files no matter how to slice it. |
| 03:06 |
NotReallyNick |
It would do good when updating moretrees. |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
that is what I wanted to avoid. |
| 03:07 |
NotReallyNick |
VanessaE: You CAN read from map_meta. Read it as a file in the world directry, and parse it yourself. |
| 03:07 |
VanessaE |
as for moretrees' settings, if someone wants to pull request with a patch that'll move settings.lua to the world folder or something, like technic and other mods do, then I'll be happy to include it. |
| 03:07 |
Menche |
rollback_check is soooo sloooow... |
| 03:07 |
mauvebic |
oh sixpack, we barely knew yee |
| 03:08 |
NotReallyNick |
VanessaE: Why have a separate settings.lua in the first place? Why not put it in minetest.conf? |
| 03:08 |
VanessaE |
because they should be world-specific settings. |
| 03:08 |
VanessaE |
if not mod-specific |
| 03:08 |
mauvebic |
and i found a perfectly business-like solution to dealing with my isp: ill go down there in person, crack open some skulls, and feast on the warm goo inside |
| 03:09 |
VanessaE |
whole-server-wide is wrong imho. |
| 03:09 |
Menche |
aren't there world-specific minetest.confs now? |
| 03:09 |
VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: there are about 15 or 20 config variables for moretrees, so dumping them into minetest.conf wouldn't be good. |
| 03:09 |
VanessaE |
Menche: beats me, I don't know how to use such things. |
| 03:10 |
Menche |
thanks to lava cooling, a griefer left a nice stone shelf over a lake on my server |
| 03:11 |
mauvebic |
how did the griefer place water or lava in 1st place? |
| 03:11 |
NotReallyNick |
It's better than non-removable stone. |
| 03:11 |
Menche |
with a bucket i'm assuming... |
| 03:12 |
mauvebic |
why not disable them then? |
| 03:12 |
Hwkiller |
sorry to ask this; what is the best "trash" mod, assuming that any of them are decent |
| 03:12 |
mauvebic |
or make a priv |
| 03:12 |
NotReallyNick |
Disabling buckets is lame. |
| 03:12 |
Menche |
then nobody can use it :P |
| 03:12 |
mauvebic |
bucket priv then, if they dont have it, it dont work |
| 03:12 |
Menche |
oh, and it seems that lava cooling doesn't work with rollback? |
| 03:12 |
Menche |
rollback left the cooled stone |
| 03:13 |
mauvebic |
because no one placed it |
| 03:13 |
Menche |
rollback can detect and undo fire damage |
| 03:13 |
mauvebic |
anything done by an abm cant be reverse unless abm changes are recorded |
| 03:13 |
Menche |
like if someone burns a tree down |
| 03:13 |
mauvebic |
then, theyre recording fire changes but nothing else |
| 03:13 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: is it possible to include custom flags on the mg_flags line in map_meta.txt at least? |
| 03:13 |
Menche |
if lava cooling is in by default then it should be added to rollback recording |
| 03:13 |
VanessaE |
e.g. mg_flags = caves, v6_blend_whatever, beeches |
| 03:14 |
VanessaE |
instead of mg_flags = caves, v6_blend_whatever, trees |
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| 03:17 |
mauvebic |
havent seen hmm on in days here |
| 03:17 |
mauvebic |
at least, not chatting |
| 03:18 |
* Menche |
sees a 2x2 texture pack |
| 03:18 |
* Menche |
sees competition for his 4x4 |
| 03:19 |
mauvebic |
ugh, cant stand those mini textures lol |
| 03:19 |
mauvebic |
even 16px gets to me lol |
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* ecube |
eats the 2x2 pack |
| 03:19 |
* ecube |
burps |
| 03:19 |
Menche |
personally, i think anything larger than 16x looks out of place in a voxel world |
| 03:20 |
mauvebic |
when you consider how much ram most people need to run MT, running tiny-ass textures seems out of place for me lol |
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NotReallyNick |
There's a 1*1 texture pack available too, Menche. |
| 03:21 |
Menche |
i know, i saw that |
| 03:21 |
Menche |
now that's a bit overkill |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
I should make 4x4 and 1x1 versions of HDX ;) |
| 03:21 |
Menche |
besides, you can get that by deleting all the textures and letting the game generate dummy textures |
| 03:21 |
Menche |
:P |
| 03:22 |
NotReallyNick |
VanessaE: 8^2, as well. |
| 03:22 |
khonkhortisan |
1*1 is truly voxel |
| 03:22 |
khonkhortisan |
So... I could create a mod that deletes every registered_nodes.tiles? |
| 03:22 |
Menche |
Casimir's "cute8" pack actually doesn't look that much different from default |
| 03:23 |
Menche |
loop through the minetest.registered_nodes table and set all the tiles to nil? |
| 03:25 |
Menche |
rollback may be acting slow right now, but it's still better than fixing by hand |
| 03:28 |
Menche |
when lava is spilled, the area remains perpetually lit even when it's cleared |
| 03:33 |
ecube |
khonkhortisan: if you want 1x1, just delete all your textures and let mt come up with dummy textures |
| 03:33 |
khonkhortisan |
But then it's a hassle to get them back |
| 03:34 |
Menche |
colors aren't guaranteed to make sense though |
| 03:34 |
Menche |
pink grass and purple dirt anyone? |
| 03:34 |
khonkhortisan |
can't be too hard to scale the actual textures down on start-up |
| 03:35 |
jordan4ibanez |
How do I make a pull request through git? |
| 03:35 |
khonkhortisan |
You don't? |
| 03:36 |
Menche |
http://git-scm.com/docs/git-request-pull |
| 03:36 |
Menche |
oh nvm, that's not it |
| 03:36 |
khonkhortisan |
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6235379/how-to-send-pull-request-on-git |
| 03:36 |
jordan4ibanez |
so I have to clone, make a commit to my own branch, then request it be pulled from my branch? |
| 03:36 |
khonkhortisan |
They both have pull requests, but they're not exactly compatibly |
| 03:37 |
khonkhortisan |
you have to use github to pull request from two branches on github |
| 03:37 |
khonkhortisan |
*compatible |
| 03:37 |
khonkhortisan |
you have to fork, clone, branch, commit, push branch, pull request. |
| 03:38 |
khonkhortisan |
But you can skip branching if you don't want your master to be clean |
| 03:38 |
* Menche |
made a pull request from master, bad idea |
| 03:38 |
khonkhortisan |
Github also offers a simple text editor |
| 03:38 |
khonkhortisan |
If your pull request takes a long time to get merged, and you have an idea for another feature, you have a problem |
| 03:39 |
Menche |
supposed to make a new branch to pull request from? |
| 03:39 |
khonkhortisan |
There's a way to move a commit to a branch, but a pull request would have to be re-filed. |
| 03:39 |
khonkhortisan |
yeah. |
| 03:39 |
khonkhortisan |
just for cleanliness |
| 03:44 |
jordan4ibanez |
you are pushing to remote "THE NAME" which is not the upstream of your current branch 'master' |
| 03:44 |
jordan4ibanez |
the FUCK |
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khonkhortisan |
git remote -v |
| 03:45 |
jordan4ibanez |
ok I did that, and I tried to push to the origin, and it said the same thing |
| 03:46 |
khonkhortisan |
Would this help? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15076791/git-track-an-upstream-branch-that-is-not-origin |
| 03:47 |
khonkhortisan |
Also, git branch -v, git --version |
| 03:47 |
khonkhortisan |
I have a branch of minetest that pulls from someone else's fork, in the same repo as my other branches |
| 03:47 |
jordan4ibanez |
fatal local_branch does not exist |
| 03:48 |
khonkhortisan |
no you fill that part in |
| 03:48 |
khonkhortisan |
that would be master in your case I think |
| 03:49 |
khonkhortisan |
on mine, it's origin/master instead of remote/master |
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jordan4ibanez |
i had to set the remote origin |
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jordan4ibanez |
what a pain in the arseassbuttcheeks |
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* VanessaE |
sighs. How do I do a simple ordinary file copy from Lua? |
| 03:54 |
VanessaE |
without fs.copy() I mean, since that doesn't work in MT. |
| 03:54 |
khonkhortisan |
I have a double split remote |
| 03:55 |
khonkhortisan |
open, read, close, open, write, close? |
| 03:55 |
khonkhortisan |
open, open, for, read, write, end, close, close? |
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VanessaE |
mmmh |
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mauvebic |
file copy? |
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jordan4ibanez |
They've made this so complicated on windows |
| 03:57 |
mauvebic |
what kind of file? |
| 03:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
I actually can't do it |
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VanessaE |
mauvebic: plaintext. |
| 03:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
Goodnight |
| 03:57 |
mauvebic |
why cant you read it and print it to another file? |
| 03:57 |
mauvebic |
too big to load in a var? |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
I don't know how. I'm entirely unfamiliar with file operations in Lua, except for dofile() |
| 03:58 |
khonkhortisan |
Do a by-character copy. |
| 03:58 |
mauvebic |
well if youre familiar with bookmarks, thats a simple read/write |
| 03:58 |
mauvebic |
any of the bookmark/portal mods really |
| 03:59 |
mauvebic |
they have to read the saves, and print them too |
| 03:59 |
mauvebic |
and the code isn't long unless people make it obtuse |
| 03:59 |
mauvebic |
in lua you can basically read a whole file or read it line by line |
| 03:59 |
mauvebic |
or in my case, i read them byte by byte for binvoxes |
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mauvebic |
as for saving, you simply have to open a file in write or append mode and you write to it much like you would print to terminal |
| 04:01 |
mauvebic |
stackexchange has alot of useful stuff on this |
| 04:01 |
bas080 |
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/419967/Screenshot%20-%2004092013%20-%2005%3A49%3A54%20AM.png |
| 04:01 |
mauvebic |
but if you have any copy of my old mods with bookmarks, you can use that |
| 04:01 |
bas080 |
and it's working too |
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mauvebic |
damnit, i tore my trousers |
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khonkhortisan |
I set node.tiles to nil and now the whole world is unkn |
| 04:03 |
mauvebic |
nodes need tiles |
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khonkhortisan |
even the plants! |
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mark__ |
!up minetest.info.tm |
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MinetestBot |
minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down |
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NotReallyNick |
!up minetest.info |
| 04:04 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.info:30000 seems to be down |
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Menche |
set it to some random word, minetest won't find that file and should generate dummy textures |
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NotReallyNick |
!up minetest.tm |
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khonkhortisan |
okay |
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MinetestBot |
minetest.tm:30000 seems to be down |
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mark__ |
!up minetest.info.tm |
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MinetestBot |
minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down |
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NotReallyNick |
!up info.tm |
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mark__ |
!up minetest.info.tm |
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MinetestBot |
minetest.info.tm:30000 is up (0.253ms) |
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MinetestBot |
info.tm:30000 seems to be down |
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mark__ |
!up minetest.info.tm |
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MinetestBot |
minetest.info.tm:30000 is up (0.260ms) |
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khonkhortisan |
pink world |
| 04:05 |
mauvebic |
enuff |
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khonkhortisan |
I'll have to append to the texture then. |
| 04:05 |
Menche |
hmm, guess it has to be different for each texture |
| 04:06 |
Menche |
12me21 is making a 1x1 pack with actual sensible colors: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82665#p82665 |
| 04:07 |
Menche |
lol, he says it's for slow computers, yet the screenshot shows minetest running it at 3FPS |
| 04:07 |
mauvebic |
yeah i think we need to ditch this old hardware concept and get more modern lighting, but thats just me |
| 04:08 |
mauvebic |
half the mods dont fit in with that anyways |
| 04:08 |
mauvebic |
(half being a generous estimate) |
| 04:09 |
Menche |
new_style_water doesn't have smooth lighting, worldedit leaves dark areas, lava leaves the ground glowing |
| 04:09 |
mauvebic |
like i said, more modern lighting lol |
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khonkhortisan |
that 1x1 texture pack actually looks normal from a distance |
| 04:09 |
mauvebic |
we waste more resources fixing those messes anyhow |
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jordan4ibanez |
NOW |
| 04:10 |
mauvebic |
now what? |
| 04:10 |
jordan4ibanez |
How do I make a pull request https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/common/commit/fc7a5ecef540969fe7d85851f976407ca040acc5 ? |
| 04:10 |
khonkhortisan |
exactly, now what? |
| 04:10 |
Menche |
it's hard to support many mods with 1x1 because you'll run out of recognizable colors quicly |
| 04:10 |
mauvebic |
ask the githubbers lol |
| 04:10 |
khonkhortisan |
just have to make it auto-shrink the textures, problem solved. |
| 04:10 |
mauvebic |
like gimp |
| 04:11 |
khonkhortisan |
There should be a pull request button right next to watch, star, and fork |
| 04:11 |
mauvebic |
basically adding each pixel of color and finding the average? |
| 04:11 |
khonkhortisan |
between help and your username |
| 04:11 |
khonkhortisan |
above pulle requests and wiki |
| 04:11 |
Menche |
should move it to it's own branch |
| 04:12 |
Menche |
other wise your pull request will contain everything you add to master |
| 04:12 |
jordan4ibanez |
There you go https://github.com/minetest/common/pull/27/files |
| 04:12 |
khonkhortisan |
how did you do that? |
| 04:12 |
jordan4ibanez |
What's so bad about that menche? |
| 04:13 |
khonkhortisan |
your pull request is backwards |
| 04:13 |
Menche |
you can't add any other changes |
| 04:13 |
khonkhortisan |
oh nevermind |
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* khonkhortisan |
can't read |
| 04:13 |
Menche |
they will be included in your pull request |
| 04:13 |
Menche |
*any changes not relevant to that request |
| 04:13 |
khonkhortisan |
your master is now a frozen branch. |
| 04:13 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh okay, so I'll clone my frozen branch :P |
| 04:13 |
Menche |
you *can* add other stuff, but that will be added to the pull request |
| 04:14 |
khonkhortisan |
you *can* move your commit to another branch, but you'll have to delete and recreate your pull request |
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jordan4ibanez |
Hmm, I think I can use that to my advantage right now, I can add in crafting recipes for dyes while I'm at it |
| 04:14 |
Menche |
you can still add that if you make another branch |
| 04:15 |
khonkhortisan |
What if we made up a rule to never merge anything from username:master? |
| 04:15 |
Menche |
that would make sense |
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* Menche |
has to change his first pull request :P |
| 04:16 |
jordan4ibanez |
How would I make a branch which doesn't use my name? |
| 04:16 |
Menche |
http://ragusource.com/blog/post/2012-04-14-how-to-create-a-git-pull-request-from-your-last-commit |
| 04:17 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/VanessaE/moretrees/commit/8a1ebec9513535f6f8f4488599eb7ca5560ead96 |
| 04:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
This is how I feel after learning how to use git again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HMel9KR5VY |
| 04:19 |
khonkhortisan |
if you continue to use git today, you'll run into another learning wall |
| 04:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
That's git for you |
| 04:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
goodnight people |
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khonkhortisan |
Goodnight again. |
| 04:21 |
sdzen |
goodnight lighter fluid covered zombies, may your time zone differences make this irrelevant |
| 04:22 |
ecube |
good night lit-match covered zombies |
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khonkhortisan |
How do I copy minetest.registered_nodes? |
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khonkhortisan |
When I reregister nodes, they get out-of-order. |
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VanessaE |
no idea. |
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* khonkhortisan |
lost interest already :P |
| 04:57 |
khonkhortisan |
it's just not useful without the color being somehow related to the image |
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khonkhortisan |
or having the colors flash wildly so you only have edge detection |
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NakedFury |
for those interested check this game out: http://planetexplorers.pathea.net/ |
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NakedFury |
I don't know if it has linux support for now. It is still in alpha |
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khonkhortisan |
How do I make a particle spawner spawn axis-aligned particles instead of camera-aligned particles? |
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khonkhortisan |
Rain is ugly when it falls on its side |
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markveidemanis |
Hello |
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markveidemanis |
Whatsup |
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NotReallyNick |
Hello. |
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NotReallyNick |
Finishing up my finals, and looking for a job. You? |
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Jordach |
morning |
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Jordach |
why does pureBD Craft keep getting better than VanessaE's pack :) |
| 10:17 |
Leoneof |
what? link? |
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Jordach |
Leoneof, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5427 |
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Leoneof |
looks smooth and awesome! |
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Leoneof |
Jordach: lamecraft in psp is faster than minetest in PC |
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Jordach |
PSP is a handheld console; PC is not |
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Jordach |
the PC has a OS, PSP does not |
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Leoneof |
PC with cpu dual core + more ram O_o |
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Leoneof |
psp is limited |
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Jordach |
aw man, PilzAdam isnt about :P |
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Jordach |
I can hear footsteps at night O.O |
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Jordach |
It's getting closer!!! |
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Jordach |
I am now stuck on a dirt pillar until these mobs go |
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* Jordach |
wonders where PA is |
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* Calinou |
is installing luajit |
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Jordach |
Calinou, lol |
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Calinou |
hi |
| 10:54 |
Jordach |
doesnt work from sudo apt-get install luajit |
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Calinou |
-- LuaJIT library: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libluajit-5.1.so |
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Calinou |
-- LuaJIT headers: /usr/include/luajit-2.0 |
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Calinou |
-- LuaJIT found. |
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Calinou |
package name is libluajit-5.1-dev |
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Jordach |
ah |
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Jordach |
Calinou, simple mobs is my favourite mod |
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Jordach |
not to mention im using the entirety of sphax at the same time on localhost |
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Calinou |
simple mobs is still slow :| |
| 10:55 |
Calinou |
on gameboom, I've frequently seen oerkkis that do nothing |
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Calinou |
I'm like "hello monster", monster replies "this server should get a better CPU lol" |
| 10:56 |
Calinou |
and rats keep suiciding by falling cliffs :P |
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Jordach |
Calinou, http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-090413-115729.php |
| 10:59 |
Calinou |
fail ad |
| 10:59 |
Calinou |
heh, sphax doesn't support simple mobs :P |
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Jordach |
yet |
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Calinou |
lol, core dumped when I clicked "exit to menu" |
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Jordach |
when the sheep go down in a single hit, you know the stone sword is almighty :P |
| 11:02 |
Calinou |
again |
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Calinou |
I core dump every time I leave to menu |
| 11:04 |
Calinou |
also, why am I much slower in opaque water? :x |
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Jordach |
there needs to be a boss mob in simple mods |
| 11:05 |
Jordach |
mobs* |
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Calinou |
dungeon master is already |
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JesseH |
:ooo |
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Calinou |
as most minetest users get 10 FPS on average, it is a boss mob |
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JesseH |
dungeon master? |
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Jordach |
how about the entity joiner goes bad and attaches a DM + a fast oerrki |
| 11:07 |
Jordach |
oerrki for movement, and DM for attack, just like the spider jockey |
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JesseH |
Calinou, dungeon master? |
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JesseH |
think my irc client is messing up |
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Taoki |
Hi. Is there a Lua function to remove or give (# amount) of an item from a player's inventory? |
| 11:12 |
JesseH |
Taoki, give me a minute to see |
| 11:13 |
Taoki |
thanks |
| 11:13 |
JesseH |
:) |
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Jordach |
Taoki, grep for itemstacks IIRC |
| 11:13 |
Taoki |
I need to make something that checks if a player has an item in their inventory, remove if so, then give him an exact amount of those items |
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JesseH |
Taoki, I don't really know, so I'm doing some research I just didn't want your question to go unanswered :P |
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Taoki |
ok |
| 11:18 |
Taoki |
Yeah, it's for a mod I think many people will enjoy :) |
| 11:18 |
Taoki |
Likely it will be posted today when it will be half finishe |
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JesseH |
Awesome! |
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Calinou |
there's a jungle forest fire, dozens of mobs and I still don't lag |
| 11:20 |
Calinou |
:D |
| 11:20 |
Calinou |
my FPS fell to 33 though |
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JesseH |
:o |
| 11:20 |
Taoki |
Nice |
| 11:20 |
JesseH |
Calinou, what did you mean by dungeon master |
| 11:22 |
Calinou |
155% CPU usage (client + local server), 6.8% RAM usage |
| 11:22 |
Calinou |
JesseH: in simple mobs |
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JesseH |
with 'minetest.item_place(itemstack, placer, pointed_thing)' couldn't pointed_thing be a players inventory instead of place on the map? |
| 11:22 |
JesseH |
Calinou, oh thought you meant something else :P |
| 11:22 |
Calinou |
there's a dungeon master that throws fireballs |
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JesseH |
xD |
| 11:23 |
Taoki |
Hmm. There is a minetest.get_inventory function but that doesn't mean you can set it |
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JesseH |
Taoki, Do you see it on here? http://dev.minetest.net/Player |
| 11:25 |
Taoki |
get_inventory() — returns the InvRef of the object. |
| 11:26 |
Taoki |
Anyway, I might not need the function so much really. Might use a different approach than editing inventory |
| 11:26 |
JesseH |
whatever works :D |
| 11:26 |
JesseH |
there should be a way to do it... I would think something like set_inventory but oh well |
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Jordach |
Calinou, for some reason thunar wont open any file folders |
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Calinou |
works for me |
| 11:34 |
Calinou |
just wait a minute or so |
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Calinou |
sometimes thunar will refuse starting for a minute |
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Jordach |
if it fails: turn it off and on again |
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| 11:37 |
Jordach |
morning MinetestBot |
| 11:48 |
Leoneof |
how do i know that minetest is suitable for me or not? :] |
| 11:48 |
Jordach |
Leoneof, because it is ;) |
| 11:48 |
Jordach |
the only restriction is you |
| 11:49 |
Calinou |
minetest is not rated by the ESRB, it is pending an "AO" rating for having nyancats |
| 11:49 |
Leoneof |
so i have to open my mind, and consider myself as children? |
| 11:49 |
Calinou |
the PEGI will give it 18+ for not giving interact to likwid by default |
| 11:49 |
Jordach |
Calinou, lol |
| 11:50 |
Leoneof |
we need to build/drive cars inside minetest |
| 11:50 |
Leoneof |
running is cumbersome |
| 11:50 |
Jordach |
Leoneof, theres carts |
| 11:50 |
Leoneof |
O_o |
| 11:51 |
Jordach |
minecarts |
| 11:51 |
Jordach |
which use default:rail |
| 11:51 |
Leoneof |
lol, funny |
| 11:51 |
Leoneof |
and hamburgers? |
| 11:52 |
Jordach |
Leoneof, food mod |
| 11:52 |
Jordach |
that has em |
| 11:52 |
Leoneof |
cool :D |
| 11:52 |
Leoneof |
and electricity? |
| 11:53 |
Calinou |
mesecons |
| 11:53 |
Calinou |
and ores? moreores. blocks? moreblocks. tools? maptools. |
| 11:53 |
Calinou |
:> |
| 11:53 |
* Calinou |
should rename "moreblocks" to "morenodes", it is incorrect otherwise |
| 11:53 |
Calinou |
a block is 16×16×16 nodes |
| 11:54 |
Jordach |
Calinou, then break global compatibilty |
| 11:55 |
* Jordach |
smells bacon |
| 11:55 |
Leoneof |
btw, minecraft still using java? |
| 11:56 |
Jordach |
Leoneof, yup |
| 11:56 |
Jordach |
we use C++ |
| 11:57 |
Leoneof |
ok, minetest supposed to use opengl, but it eats cpu , how come |
| 11:58 |
Jordach |
Leoneof, are you using a CPU or GPU |
| 11:58 |
Leoneof |
don't know, is there any option to change? |
| 11:58 |
Jordach |
Leoneof, its automatic |
| 11:58 |
Leoneof |
Jordach: is it possible to change to gpu? |
| 11:59 |
Jordach |
if you have a GPU installed like I do, then it will use it, provided you have the monitor plugged into it |
| 12:00 |
Leoneof |
so |
| 12:05 |
Jordach |
Minetest will use the system render |
| 12:05 |
Jordach |
renderer* |
| 12:09 |
Jordach |
THE FUCK |
| 12:09 |
* Jordach |
is getting 60FPS with settings on FULL |
| 12:11 |
Leoneof |
O_O |
| 12:12 |
Leoneof |
Jordach: wht's your graphic card? |
| 12:12 |
Leoneof |
what's* |
| 12:12 |
Jordach |
nvidia GeForce 6200 |
| 12:12 |
Jordach |
running at 300mhz, 1GB of RAM |
| 12:12 |
Leoneof |
i have geforce 8600gt |
| 12:12 |
Leoneof |
O_o |
| 12:12 |
Leoneof |
i need to run with gpu |
| 12:13 |
Leoneof |
hey, don't play with ctcp |
| 12:13 |
celeron55 |
ehm... first of all, minetest won't automatically select anything; it will use opengl unless it is told otherwise |
| 12:13 |
Jordach |
Leoneof, well, if you disable Desktop Environment Compositing, you can gain FPS |
| 12:13 |
Jordach |
by the bucket load |
| 12:13 |
celeron55 |
and minetest's renderer is quite CPU heavy |
| 12:13 |
Leoneof |
Jordach: it's just xfce |
| 12:14 |
Jordach |
Leoneof, i went from 20 -> 45 |
| 12:14 |
Leoneof |
ok, will give a try |
| 12:14 |
Jordach |
Leoneof, just because compositing was using my cpu / gpu as well |
| 12:15 |
Leoneof |
eew, desktop is ugly now |
| 12:15 |
Calinou |
Leoneof: software rendering is insanely slow |
| 12:15 |
* Leoneof |
running minetest |
| 12:15 |
Calinou |
on a 3960X, you'll have 53FPS on openarena... on 640×480 |
| 12:15 |
Calinou |
and 23FPS on 1920×1080 |
| 12:15 |
Jordach |
OH DEAR GOD: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-090413-131525.php |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, hey |
| 12:16 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 12:16 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, simple mobs is awesome |
| 12:16 |
PilzAdam |
thx |
| 12:16 |
Jordach |
it makes survival much much better |
| 12:17 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-090413-131525.php |
| 12:17 |
Jordach |
oh cmon: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-090413-131735.php |
| 12:17 |
sfan5 |
guess what this is? http://i.imgur.com/nwwQUyo.png |
| 12:18 |
* Jordach |
checks |
| 12:18 |
Leoneof |
it is using opengl 2.1 , FPS =14 |
| 12:18 |
Jordach |
sfan5, is that a computer? |
| 12:18 |
sfan5 |
yes, it can understand branfuck |
| 12:18 |
Calinou |
looks like a titan's VRM |
| 12:19 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, simple mobs bug: mobs can be attacked through solid nodes using swords |
| 12:20 |
celeron55 |
that's an engine bug |
| 12:20 |
* VanessaE |
is back. |
| 12:21 |
VanessaE |
good morning. |
| 12:21 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, you need to add pigs into simple mobs, so we can have bacon |
| 12:21 |
Calinou |
Jordach: mobs collide with players and other mobs now, that's cool :D |
| 12:22 |
Jordach |
Calinou, spotted that in the stable |
| 12:22 |
Calinou |
hostile mobs no longer "merge" when chasing you |
| 12:22 |
Calinou |
they still glitch when they try to chase you when you're above/below them |
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PilzAdam |
Calinou, mobs dont collide with players, only players with mobs |
| 12:24 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, and that glitch is 100% wanted |
| 12:25 |
Jordach |
I just found a British Sand Monster: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-090413-132435.php |
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| 12:25 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, I can add pigs if someone gives me the model for it |
| 12:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
Can you add in sheep? |
| 12:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
I have them, sheered, and not sheered |
| 12:26 |
Jordach |
jordan4ibanez, sheep already exist |
| 12:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
BETTER sheep |
| 12:29 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: you ever figure out that pull request for flowers you were working on? |
| 12:30 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yes I did |
| 12:33 |
jordan4ibanez |
pilzadam https://dl.dropbox.com/s/bu1q2l0r10u5wwh/sheep.zip?token_hash=AAF_3_Wm3Kp70z-qj4luyw5FCaqNfFaQu8d8P_IUfKwrvQ&dl=1 |
| 12:34 |
jordan4ibanez |
also i thik ogb_us has started to take this game into realism>fun |
| 12:34 |
PilzAdam |
jordan4ibanez, were is the sheared sheep? |
| 12:34 |
jordan4ibanez |
it is in the same mesh :D |
| 12:34 |
jordan4ibanez |
so you don't have to update the entity |
| 12:34 |
PilzAdam |
can you give me the animation frame ranges? |
| 12:35 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, make the sand, stone and dirt monsters use the player mesh |
| 12:35 |
PilzAdam |
no, I want a different model for them |
| 12:37 |
jordan4ibanez |
0-40 walking, 41-59 standing, 60-101 walking(sheared), 102-121, standing (sheared) |
| 12:37 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: Is the rat model also yours? I saw a screenshot and suggested that someone remakes a blocky version (since that one is polygonal which breaks the default style) |
| 12:37 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: Also, let me know if you're confused with how to animate and export the models in Blender |
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| 12:39 |
PilzAdam |
Taoki, I dont use blender |
| 12:39 |
Taoki |
ok |
| 12:39 |
PilzAdam |
jordan4ibanez, its not possible with the simple mobs API to make it in the same model file |
| 12:39 |
PilzAdam |
I need to switch the model completly when the sheep gets sheared |
| 12:40 |
jordan4ibanez |
Why? That just makes more things that the player needs to download, why not change the animation to fit the sheared, or unsheared, it's much simpler |
| 12:40 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: junglegrass in inventory is black.. I think paramtype="light" is necessary to fix that, if I remember right. Also it looks badly scaled...? |
| 12:41 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, you mean without the inventory_image = "default_junglegrass.png"? |
| 12:42 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: Not sure, I haven't played with it yet. Just going from memory from last time I ran into that issue. |
| 12:44 |
VanessaE |
jungle tree sapling has the same issue, btw |
| 12:44 |
Leoneof |
it's still slow O_o |
| 12:46 |
jordan4ibanez |
actually, I like these sheeps :D |
| 12:47 |
jordan4ibanez |
Who thinks flowers should be in common? :3 |
| 12:48 |
jordan4ibanez |
https://github.com/minetest/common/pull/27/files Flowers should be a requirement in the game, since without them, there is no crafting for dyes |
| 12:52 |
NotReallyNick |
jordan4ibanez: I'm not one of the ones fighting for realism. As long as the world is made of boxes, we'll never have realism. |
| 12:52 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: seems okay to me but you left out the cotton |
| 12:53 |
VanessaE |
also you forgot flowers->dyes recipes, and you included a Thumbs.db file. |
| 12:54 |
jordan4ibanez |
Then why do you keep talking about "realistic" aspects in the game NotReallyNick? Obsidian keeping fire lit is a good feature |
| 12:54 |
Jordach |
sfan5, i just got a small form of racism in yo0ur fortune script |
| 12:54 |
Jordach |
http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-090413-135444.php |
| 12:54 |
Jordach |
^ proof |
| 12:55 |
sfan5 |
:O |
| 12:55 |
VanessaE |
oooOOOOOooooooo |
| 12:55 |
VanessaE |
bad. |
| 12:55 |
NotReallyNick |
Obsidian keeping fire lit is not good though. Maybe a specialized node for that, but not obsidian. |
| 12:55 |
sfan5 |
fortune is not called with the "-a" flag so it shouldn't output offensive answers |
| 12:55 |
jordan4ibanez |
Obsidian is hot, fire is hot, therefore obsidian is fire. Case closed! |
| 12:56 |
NotReallyNick |
Obsidian isn't hot, it's been cooled. |
| 12:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
It's still hot! |
| 12:57 |
Jordach |
how about the small chance of Obsidian Fire |
| 12:57 |
NotReallyNick |
Obsidian is not fire, and case not closed. Also, apparently people are using obsidian to build strong bases. Should these bases catch fire and never go out? A special node would be better. |
| 12:57 |
NotReallyNick |
No, that still has the obsidian base issue. |
| 12:57 |
sfan5 |
"false promises": http://pastie.org/pastes/7385075/text |
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VanessaE |
what obsidian *could* reasonably do is act as insulation for fire - fire with enough obsidian around it could burn longer but still eventually go out. |
| 12:58 |
jordan4ibanez |
Notreallynick, this doesn't light obsidian on fire, it keeps fire from going, and yes that would be very cool actually |
| 12:59 |
jordan4ibanez |
fire is a node, obsidian is a node, therefore, fire is obsidian, retextured, case cracked! |
| 12:59 |
Taoki |
So after two days of work, I can reveal my (hopefully pleasant) surprise for Minetest: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82728 |
| 13:00 |
Taoki |
This is hopefully a mod that will allow many new exciting things, such as sharing buildings via IRC or forum and creating villages or cities in mapgen easily |
| 13:00 |
Taoki |
Still a lot to do though |
| 13:00 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: you should use the Worldedit file format. |
| 13:01 |
NotReallyNick |
Yes, but if someone lights your base on fire, and it's made of obsidian, it will never go out. |
| 13:01 |
jordan4ibanez |
Then just douse it with water? XD |
| 13:01 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: The mod has its own format. Not experienced with worldedit |
| 13:01 |
NotReallyNick |
VanessaE: Prolonged flames that don't go on forever would be great. |
| 13:01 |
celeron55 |
Taoki: it's Minetest, not Minetest |
| 13:01 |
celeron55 |
eh |
| 13:01 |
celeron55 |
Taoki: it's Minetest, not MineTest |
| 13:01 |
Taoki |
But prolly not what the same thing I'm doing |
| 13:01 |
celeron55 |
hard to write it so wrong |
| 13:01 |
Taoki |
celeron55: Right, sorry :P |
| 13:01 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: read up on it, it'll make your mod more flexible in the future :) |
| 13:02 |
NotReallyNick |
Okay, I guess I'll work on flowers on Wednesday. |
| 13:02 |
jordan4ibanez |
Good! Someone who knows what they're talking about can write it! 8] |
| 13:03 |
NotReallyNick |
I'll just take the code you wrote, and patch it up. It's almost great, it just needs some small tweaking. |
| 13:04 |
NotReallyNick |
Plus, you already did the hard part: procured us some flower images. |
| 13:04 |
NotReallyNick |
If I'm tinkering with this though, I'm adding seeds. It should be interesting to try to draw those. |
| 13:05 |
VanessaE |
seeds? erm.. |
| 13:05 |
NotReallyNick |
You have those? |
| 13:05 |
VanessaE |
nope, I never figured on adding seeds to flowers. |
| 13:05 |
NotReallyNick |
Or were you saying seeds are bad? |
| 13:05 |
VanessaE |
flowers should probably be made buildable_to also btw |
| 13:06 |
NotReallyNick |
Okay. Without some form of flower regeneration, they won't last long. Wool and dyes are popular. |
| 13:06 |
jordan4ibanez |
Seeds probably are bad, you're going to have to have a dependancy on pilzadam's farming mod :P |
| 13:06 |
NotReallyNick |
Bluh. I hate buildable_to nodes, they're so easy to accidentally lose. |
| 13:06 |
VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: plantlife+flowers mod will do that if this gets into default, if you need renewable flowers. |
| 13:07 |
NotReallyNick |
No, the seeds have nothing to do with farming. |
| 13:07 |
NotReallyNick |
Okay. SO are we waiting for plantlife to be added or doing it now? |
| 13:07 |
NotReallyNick |
*So |
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VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: no, jordan's pull request hooks into the map generator, so my code could be used as a regular add-on mod, much like what I do with jungle grass now. |
| 13:09 |
NotReallyNick |
The seeds are simple. If planted on desert sand, they become dry shrubs. If planted on dirt_with_grass, they become a randome flower, grass, or jungle grass. |
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NotReallyNick |
*random |
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NotReallyNick |
If flower renewability is being added with an add-on, flowers themselves might as well be added with an add-on as well. |
| 13:10 |
VanessaE |
morning hmmmm |
| 13:11 |
NotReallyNick |
If we add one, we should add both. |
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VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: well at present, that's how flowers work - as a regular old add-on. If they get added to the map generator as with jordan4ibanez's patch, all I have to do is adjust the perlin params in flowers mod to match the mapgen settings. |
| 13:12 |
NotReallyNick |
Okay. So you're saying to take the code from plantlife and add it to the new flowers? |
| 13:12 |
VanessaE |
no. |
| 13:12 |
NotReallyNick |
Okay. |
| 13:13 |
NotReallyNick |
So what's the issue with the seeds then? |
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| 13:13 |
VanessaE |
seeds seems like overkill for flowers is all |
| 13:13 |
OGLandmine |
wasssssssup |
| 13:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
With that patch, all you have to do is walk around and explore for flowers |
| 13:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
flowers become a limited resource, and have value |
| 13:14 |
NotReallyNick |
OKay. So how should flowers regenerate, if not via seeds or continual spawning? |
| 13:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
THEY SHOULDN'T! |
| 13:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
DO ORES REGENERATE? |
| 13:14 |
VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: in the default code, they should be finite. |
| 13:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oops, caps LOCK :D |
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| 13:15 |
VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: if you want renewable flowers, get my mod :) |
| 13:15 |
NotReallyNick |
Ores SHOULD have a way to regenerate, but I haven't found a good way to do that yet. |
| 13:15 |
jordan4ibanez |
Lol this guy |
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| 13:15 |
NotReallyNick |
VanessaE: Then if people whant flowers at all, they should use yours, and not put them in common. |
| 13:15 |
jordan4ibanez |
VanessaE how do I remove the thumbs.db from my pull request? |
| 13:16 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: just delete it from your local repo, git commit -a; git push -f |
| 13:16 |
OGLandmine |
you know what you should od_ |
| 13:16 |
OGLandmine |
make some flower seeds and some pots |
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| 13:16 |
OGLandmine |
make them prow in pots |
| 13:16 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: you may want to: git rebase -i HEAD~2 before you push. |
| 13:16 |
NotReallyNick |
That's what I want to add. Flower seeds. |
| 13:16 |
OGLandmine |
cause they are to fucking hard to find |
| 13:16 |
OGLandmine |
atleast roses and blue ones |
| 13:17 |
Leoneof |
WHY MINETEST IS VERY SLOW? IT'S RUNNING WITH OPENGL 2.1 AND FPS IS ~14 |
| 13:17 |
VanessaE |
Leoneof: bad system video driver maybe? |
| 13:17 |
NotReallyNick |
The seeds will spawn random flowers, including red and blue. |
| 13:17 |
Leoneof |
VanessaE: this driver from nvidia, in their offical website |
| 13:17 |
jordan4ibanez |
why http://i.imgur.com/yxPJoqE.png |
| 13:17 |
Leoneof |
VanessaE: geforce nvidia 8600gt 512mb |
| 13:18 |
Leoneof |
8600m gt |
| 13:18 |
OGLandmine |
yeah do that notreallynick |
| 13:18 |
Leoneof |
laptop |
| 13:18 |
VanessaE |
Leoneof: make sure you actually installed it "right". nVidia's driver can sometimes be picky; you may have to run an extra util to "enable" it first. |
| 13:18 |
Taoki |
How do you get / set the facedir ot a node (param2)? |
| 13:18 |
OGLandmine |
btw hi VanessaE |
| 13:18 |
alex256 |
some flowers could be perennials...ores do not need to regenerate ...my opinion... |
| 13:18 |
OGLandmine |
mind lifting my ip range ban?? |
| 13:18 |
Leoneof |
VanessaE: ok, i will try old version from debian repo |
| 13:19 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: paramtype="facedir" in the node def, then add_node(pos, {name="xxxx", param2=number}) |
| 13:19 |
VanessaE |
where the number is as described in the API |
| 13:19 |
VanessaE |
fuck |
| 13:19 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: paramtype2="facedir" in the node def, then add_node(pos, {name="xxxx", param2=number}) |
| 13:20 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: So meta:get_string(paramtype="facedir") to get it? |
| 13:20 |
VanessaE |
Leoneof: it might not be that you need an "old" version, as much as you need to make sure your OS knows to actually *use* the driver. |
| 13:20 |
Taoki |
I need to get it / set it for existing nodes BTW, such as torches and stairs |
| 13:20 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: paramtype2, sorry. and no, you don't use metadata to get it |
| 13:20 |
Taoki |
I can't modify the nodes themselves to add it |
| 13:20 |
Taoki |
ok |
| 13:20 |
Jordach |
OGLandmine, does a pickaxe mine blocks on its own? |
| 13:20 |
VanessaE |
it's a regular register_node() field. |
| 13:20 |
VanessaE |
e.g. get_node(pos).param2 |
| 13:21 |
VanessaE |
or something like that |
| 13:21 |
Taoki |
So it's minetest.env:get_node(pos).facedir ? |
| 13:21 |
VanessaE |
no, .param2 |
| 13:21 |
Leoneof |
VanessaE: really i have no idea, it's Debian 7, other games are very smooth |
| 13:21 |
OGLandmine |
Jordach i have no idea what you are asking |
| 13:21 |
OGLandmine |
im in school lol |
| 13:21 |
Taoki |
ok, will test |
| 13:22 |
OGLandmine |
do you love me now Jordach__ im being a good kid |
| 13:22 |
VanessaE |
param2 is the name if the actual variable that sets the facedir, paramtype2 is what tells the register_node() call what the variable means. |
| 13:22 |
VanessaE |
I'm warning you. don't start your crap. |
| 13:23 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: it's slightly confusing at first, I'll grant you that. :_) |
| 13:23 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 13:24 |
OGLandmine |
VanessaE i dont even know where you are comming form |
| 13:24 |
alex256 |
are mods the culpriy for people timing out..or do they just quit before every thing loads? |
| 13:24 |
alex256 |
*culprit |
| 13:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
this is how I feel about minetest irc and landmine http://qkme.me/3tst4b |
| 13:24 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: Won't work. minetest.env:get_node(pos_here).paramtype2 |
| 13:24 |
VanessaE |
OGLandmine: bullshit. you know PRECISELY what I refer to. |
| 13:24 |
Taoki |
Seems to be null |
| 13:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
I g2g peace for now |
| 13:25 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: that just gets you the parameter type (and I guess I got the syntax wrong). you need the param2 field, not paramtype2 |
| 13:25 |
Taoki |
param2 too I think. I'm trying to print it as a test (in print() ) |
| 13:25 |
OGLandmine |
i dont really...i havent come on here for aq long time |
| 13:25 |
OGLandmine |
i have respected my ban |
| 13:25 |
OGLandmine |
i have creeped around form time to time but just that VanessaE |
| 13:25 |
OGLandmine |
so chill out |
| 13:25 |
VanessaE |
OGLandmine: and there's a damn good reason why you were banned. |
| 13:25 |
Taoki |
nvm, now it actually worked :) |
| 13:26 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: \o. |
| 13:26 |
VanessaE |
\o/ |
| 13:26 |
Taoki |
^^ |
| 13:26 |
Taoki |
Thanks for the help |
| 13:26 |
VanessaE |
no prob, glad I could :) |
| 13:26 |
NotReallyNick |
Raise one arm, then the other. Both at once is too much effort. |
| 13:27 |
VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: pressing the right key is HARD WORK! :-) |
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OGLandMine |
VannesaE i dont know what you are talking about |
| 13:27 |
alex256 |
lol....like a person who crafts a bucket before they build a house does't have bad intent.... |
| 13:27 |
OGLandMine |
i have been minding my own buisness for about a month |
| 13:27 |
NotReallyNick |
I know. I'm constantly missing keys or hitting the wrong ones. |
| 13:27 |
OGLandMine |
maybe even more |
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Kacey |
morningall |
| 13:28 |
OGLandMine |
hi KAcey |
| 13:28 |
OGLandMine |
long time to see |
| 13:29 |
NotReallyNick |
VanessaE: You mentioned a cotton flower that wasn't present in the pull request. Where there any other missed flowers? |
| 13:29 |
OGLandMine |
VanessaE all i did was show you an exploit of the bot that was/is here |
| 13:29 |
OGLandMine |
they fixed it didnt they? |
| 13:29 |
OGLandMine |
so my intentions were good.....i am always misunderstood |
| 13:29 |
VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: for land flowers no, but the waterlilies are missing too :-) However those need some special code to grow properly, so they are best excluded. |
| 13:29 |
* sfan5 |
reads the word "bot" and scrolls up |
| 13:29 |
alex256 |
OGLandMine start your own server...if people dont think you are a douche bag maybe they will come on your server...that way you dont have to worry about being banned or not having privs. |
| 13:30 |
OGLandMine |
alex256 i already did |
| 13:30 |
OGLandMine |
it was a creative serve |
| 13:30 |
VanessaE |
OGLandMine: last time you were here you started insulting, harassing people, etc in public and in private. |
| 13:30 |
OGLandMine |
very active |
| 13:30 |
alex256 |
well.... |
| 13:30 |
OGLandMine |
but it got boring |
| 13:30 |
OGLandMine |
cause i had to check things everyday |
| 13:30 |
alex256 |
why? |
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NotReallyNick |
Would anyone mind if "wool" was changed to "cotton"? With backwards compatibility aliases, of course. |
| 13:30 |
VanessaE |
dante123: did you get my last message? |
| 13:31 |
VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: I wouldn't be opposed, there is a recipe in flowers mod to make "wool" from cotton wads... |
| 13:31 |
dante123 |
not sure |
| 13:31 |
dante123 |
what was it about |
| 13:31 |
VanessaE |
(thanks to jojo) |
| 13:31 |
dante123 |
!up minetest.info.tm |
| 13:31 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down |
| 13:31 |
VanessaE |
dante123: the cause of your map bug (with the huge square cliffs) has been discovered. It hit me too, and mauvebic also. |
| 13:31 |
dante123 |
!up minetest.info.tm |
| 13:31 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.info.tm:30000 is up (0.284ms) |
| 13:32 |
NotReallyNick |
Yeah, but getting wool from cotton wads is less clean than getting cotton from cotton wads. |
| 13:32 |
dante123 |
I dont think I saw that message. |
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| 13:32 |
VanessaE |
dante123: if you plug your old seed into map_meta.txt, that'll make the rest of the map match, but the only solution to the existing cliffs is to make a new map |
| 13:32 |
OGLandMine |
VanessaE that is a lie |
| 13:32 |
dante123 |
My students dont seem to mind it....and I hate to start over |
| 13:32 |
OGLandMine |
someone is giving me a bad name Ñ) |
| 13:32 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Can someone help me with compiling |
| 13:33 |
OGLandMine |
=) |
| 13:33 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997|Tablet: *sigh* compiling what? |
| 13:33 |
dante123 |
should i upgrade to 0.4.6?? or stay at 0.4.5 for now (since that is what is on computers at school) |
| 13:33 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I am trying to use this app |
| 13:33 |
dante123 |
!up minetest.info.tm |
| 13:33 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.info.tm:30000 is up (0.340ms) |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.n0n3m4.droidc&hl=en |
| 13:33 |
NotReallyNick |
0.4.6 has bug fixes. I'd upgrade. |
| 13:33 |
sfan5 |
dante123: 0.4.6 doesn't have sooo many new features |
| 13:33 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
But I don't know what file to compile |
| 13:34 |
VanessaE |
Feb 05 2013 19:16:53 <landmineownz>Hahhah he left |
| 13:34 |
VanessaE |
Feb 05 2013 19:16:56 <landmineownz>What a faggot |
| 13:34 |
VanessaE |
Feb 05 2013 19:17:24 <landmineownz>Mrktraceur easy to talk smack when I'm not here eh? |
| 13:34 |
VanessaE |
Feb 05 2013 19:17:25 <landmineownz>Hahahhaa |
| 13:34 |
dante123 |
can I upgrade server jojoa1997 and students still get in using 0.4.5 for now |
| 13:34 |
VanessaE |
THAT IS WHAT I MEANT. |
| 13:34 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
No |
| 13:34 |
OGLandMine |
well that i did say |
| 13:34 |
VanessaE |
hi jojo. |
| 13:34 |
OGLandMine |
cause mark was mean |
| 13:34 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997|Tablet: what file to compile... to achieve what? |
| 13:34 |
OGLandMine |
i heard a week later he left or someone banned him |
| 13:34 |
NotReallyNick |
It depends on the server's settings. |
| 13:34 |
OGLandMine |
which was funny to me |
| 13:35 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
WhT do you mean? |
| 13:35 |
VanessaE |
dante123: install LuaJIT library and upgrade to the very latest git. MT at git HEAD is quite fast now. |
| 13:35 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I want to compile minetest |
| 13:35 |
NotReallyNick |
jojoa1997|Tablet: WHat does who mean? |
| 13:36 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
What do you mean |
| 13:36 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997|Tablet: well then you threw > 2 € euros out of the window |
| 13:36 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997|Tablet: the problem with compiling in the manner you are trying to is that Minetest is not really written to be compiled by anything but the standard toolchains found on Windows or Linux. |
| 13:36 |
dante123 |
well, im home sick today and the students are going to go to computer lab and use my server later today. I will wait until the weekend to update stuff. Thanks for tips though. |
| 13:36 |
sfan5 |
even if you can get the app to compile all the minetest files |
| 13:36 |
NotReallyNick |
jojoa1997|Tablet: What does WHO mean, me? |
| 13:36 |
VanessaE |
dante123: no problem. Let us know if you need help. |
| 13:36 |
dante123 |
I probably will VanessaE and appreciate your input/help. |
| 13:36 |
sfan5 |
you need irrlicht, openal, libvorbis, libvorbisfile, gettext, freetype to complete a full minetest |
| 13:36 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I never said who |
| 13:37 |
NotReallyNick |
I was just saying that 0.4.5 clients can connect to 0.4.6 servers, depending on the server's setting. |
| 13:37 |
NotReallyNick |
*settings |
| 13:37 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997|Tablet: what platform are you trying to build Minetest for? |
| 13:37 |
sfan5 |
<sfan5> you need irrlicht, openal, libvorbis, libvorbisfile, gettext, freetype to complete a full minetest |
| 13:37 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Android |
| 13:37 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997|Tablet: ^ |
| 13:37 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.n0n3m4.droidc&hl=en |
| 13:37 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: on android with that (shitty) app |
| 13:37 |
OGLandMine |
anyione wanna grief VanessaE ´s server together??? hahaha ajk |
| 13:38 |
sfan5 |
.... |
| 13:38 |
sfan5 |
!ignore OGLandMine |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: 'OGLandMine' added to ignore list. |
| 13:38 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: eek. |
| 13:38 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
On android for windows |
| 13:38 |
sfan5 |
wut?! |
| 13:38 |
NotReallyNick |
Android isn't for Windows. What do you mean? |
| 13:38 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I want to compile for windows |
| 13:38 |
sfan5 |
you need a window cross-compiler then, and not an app that compiles for android |
| 13:38 |
OGLandMine |
lol |
| 13:39 |
NotReallyNick |
Okay, got it. |
| 13:39 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
But I am using android tablet |
| 13:39 |
sfan5 |
<sfan5> you need a window cross-compiler then, and not an app that compiles for android |
| 13:39 |
RTMLandMine |
btw |
| 13:39 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Grr |
| 13:39 |
RTMLandMine |
i compiled on OSX yeah be jelly |
| 13:39 |
alex256 |
android is almost linux... |
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sfan5 |
RTMLandMine: some guy on the forums also did that |
| 13:40 |
sfan5 |
anyway... who uses macs? |
| 13:40 |
RTMLandMine |
nice way to kill my emotions sfan5 |
| 13:40 |
NotReallyNick |
I used to use Macs. Until I ran into a legal issue. |
| 13:40 |
RTMLandMine |
tell me about it NRN |
| 13:42 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Anyone know of a windows cross compiler app |
| 13:42 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997|Tablet: you need a rooted android anyway to do such things without spending 1 weeks to get some stupid app to compile minetest right; and if you would want to compile for windows you'll need mingw32 toolchain for android |
| 13:42 |
sfan5 |
...an app |
| 13:42 |
NotReallyNick |
Sorry, I don't. Maybe Google can help. |
| 13:43 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997|Tablet: a stupid app won't bring you anywhere, as it doesn't allow you to use custom makefiles, also you'll need to link with Irrlicht |
| 13:43 |
sfan5 |
also i bet that there is no windows cross-compiling app for android |
| 13:43 |
RTMLandMine |
sfab that is easy |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
Ask nvm I just won't compile |
| 13:44 |
RTMLandMine |
sfa5 that is easy |
| 13:44 |
sfan5 |
the simplest way to compile minetest for whatever you want, is to just use a computer |
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VanessaE |
jojoa1997|Tablet: I see what you're trying to do now, and sorry but what you're wanting to do is not possible with the toolchain you are using. |
| 13:46 |
VanessaE |
damn ot. |
| 13:46 |
VanessaE |
it* |
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RTMLandMine |
lol |
| 13:47 |
RTMLandMine |
hey VanessaE i called old coder on the phone once |
| 13:47 |
RTMLandMine |
laster like 10 min talking to him |
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| 13:53 |
RTMLandMine |
well this chat dies quick |
| 13:54 |
Doyousketch2 |
it's not dead. I just woke up |
| 13:54 |
NotReallyNick |
Now that you're here, we can begin the party! |
| 13:55 |
Doyousketch2 |
lols yea |
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VanessaE |
morning, sketch |
| 13:56 |
Doyousketch2 |
you know, I'll glance at that Android compiler. try it on the tablet and see where we get with it |
| 13:56 |
VanessaE |
I fixed the issue with the trees that you and michaeleh were having.. |
| 13:56 |
Doyousketch2 |
oh, that's cool. were they default ones you were converting over? |
| 13:57 |
VanessaE |
yeah, I decided to ditch the conversion code and leave them be. Worked out a different method of handling beeches vs. default trees. Not ideal, but I suppose it does work better in the enf. |
| 13:57 |
VanessaE |
end* |
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Doyousketch2 |
gotta dig up the power supply and try to build libs from source. |
| 13:58 |
Doyousketch2 |
I'm sure I'll hit a brick wall, 'cuz the libs'll have unmet dependancies too |
| 14:02 |
Doyousketch2 |
sorta wrecked VirtualBox. tried to install a more recent ver on top of the old repository ver |
| 14:02 |
VanessaE |
how far did you get with that anyway? |
| 14:02 |
VanessaE |
oops heh |
| 14:03 |
Doyousketch2 |
nowhere. it installed, then gave me an error. I figured updating might solve it, but that only made things worse. |
| 14:03 |
Doyousketch2 |
now I can't even load VirtualBox |
| 14:03 |
VanessaE |
I meant compiling MT |
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Doyousketch2 |
oh, I got half the libs converted over into bytecode and then ran into this huge prob that you need to re-write the libs to be local copies |
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VanessaE |
ick |
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* YoungDerp |
just got the best phone call ever |
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Doyousketch2 |
dunno if I'm saying that right. they need to be portable. not the system files, but ones that'll pass along with the compile |
| 14:07 |
PilzAdam |
"you are the president of the world"? |
| 14:07 |
VanessaE |
YoungDerp: you won 100 million (your favorite currency) and you're going to share it with us? :) |
| 14:08 |
Doyousketch2 |
yeah, that'd be awesome |
| 14:08 |
VanessaE |
Doyousketch2: eh, I'll have to take your word for it, I don't even *own* a tablet, much less try to compile on one :-) |
| 14:10 |
Doyousketch2 |
well, if you feel you need to play a random Android app, you can run it in a VirtualBox, but it's slow that way. |
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YoungDerp |
naw school was canceled |
| 14:13 |
VanessaE |
why? |
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| 14:18 |
VanessaE |
hey traxie |
| 14:18 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
I need some kauphy |
| 14:18 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
hi |
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* VanessaE |
hands Traxie21|Kindle some hot chocolate instead :) |
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* Traxie21|Kindle |
spills hot chocolate because exhausted |
| 14:20 |
VanessaE |
aww |
| 14:20 |
VanessaE |
so wasteful |
| 14:20 |
* Traxie21|Kindle |
licks hot chocolate off floor |
| 14:20 |
* VanessaE |
hands Traxie21|Kindle a spill-proof mug full of hot chocolate -- with marshmallows |
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* Traxie21|Kindle |
thanks 'nessaE |
| 14:21 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 14:21 |
* Traxie21|Kindle |
drinks from sippy-cup. |
| 14:21 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 14:21 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
sip |
| 14:21 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
sip |
| 14:21 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
sip |
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Doyousketch2 |
someone's making a lotta noise outside |
| 14:22 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
slurp |
| 14:22 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
gurgle |
| 14:22 |
Doyousketch2 |
there's this steady Crack! |
| 14:22 |
Doyousketch2 |
crack |
| 14:22 |
Doyousketch2 |
every second |
| 14:23 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
O_o |
| 14:23 |
Doyousketch2 |
it's echoing from blocks away |
| 14:23 |
VanessaE |
tell them to put down the damn mese pick and take a break |
| 14:23 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
lol |
| 14:23 |
* Traxie21|Kindle |
gets sugar high |
| 14:23 |
Taoki |
Anyone got an idea how to rotate facedir 180* ? I can't figure this out for many minutes :( |
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| 14:24 |
Taoki |
0 = y+ ; 1 = z+ ; 2 = z- ; 3 = x+ ; 4 = x- ; 5 = y- |
| 14:24 |
Taoki |
So I need a stair that faces south to face north for instance. But the same formula must rotate torches properly |
| 14:24 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: the default is for the front of the node to face Z-, so set facedir to 1, Z+ |
| 14:24 |
Doyousketch2 |
there's an ice truck out there. think the delivery guy was just being lazy and chucking 'em into the freezer |
| 14:25 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
probably |
| 14:25 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: So 0 is Z- and 1 is Z+? |
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Traxie21|Kindle |
question: Taoki == MicreaKitsuene? |
| 14:25 |
Taoki |
The table in documentation says something else though. 0 = y+ ; 1 = z+ ; 2 = z- ; 3 = x+ ; 4 = x- ; 5 = y- |
| 14:25 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 14:25 |
VanessaE |
yep. |
| 14:25 |
Taoki |
Traxie21|Kindle: yeah |
| 14:26 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: no, 2/Z- is the default if not set, 1 is facing Z+. |
| 14:26 |
Taoki |
ok. I read it ranges between 0 and 5 however. Makes no sense how to flip all possible positions |
| 14:26 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
Taoki: /me approves of your choice of pony. |
| 14:26 |
Taoki |
:) |
| 14:26 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: or more correctly, if a node has no facedir at all, the "front" of the node faces toward Z-, so it would be the same as giving it a facedir with a value of 2. |
| 14:27 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: so if you wanna flip it to face Z+, you need to set facedir to 1. |
| 14:27 |
Taoki |
I did |
| 14:27 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: This is what I have so far which isn't correct: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=VdyzPWB7 |
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| 14:28 |
Taoki |
parameters[5] is the initial param2 |
| 14:28 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
What are you making? |
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Taoki |
Traxie21|Kindle: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82728 |
| 14:28 |
* Traxie21|Kindle |
's sugar high wears off |
| 14:29 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
Taoki: I cant open external links on a kindle :P |
| 14:29 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: so basically: if fdir==2 then flipdir=1 elseif fdir==1 then flipdir=2 elseif fdir==3 then flipdir=4 elseif fdir==4 then flipdir=3 end |
| 14:29 |
VanessaE |
where flipdir now equals the mirror of fdir. |
| 14:29 |
VanessaE |
at least for X/Z coords. |
| 14:29 |
VanessaE |
and that only applies if you aren't using the full nature of 6d facedir. |
| 14:29 |
Taoki |
Ohh, right. 2 of them are ignored since I'm only rotating horizontally |
| 14:29 |
Taoki |
So I don't transform Y. Silly me |
| 14:30 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: right. |
| 14:30 |
VanessaE |
you only transform Y if you want to turn a node upside down or rotate it around the X or Z axis |
| 14:31 |
Jordach |
i go missing to play xbox and shit happens |
| 14:31 |
Jordach |
great. |
| 14:31 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
Anyone here know much abount Ubuntu on a USB drive? |
| 14:31 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
What happened Jordy? |
| 14:31 |
Jordach |
except you should remove windows |
| 14:31 |
Jordach |
and install ubuntu |
| 14:31 |
VanessaE |
Traxie21|Kindle: only that it works the same as Ubuntu on CD. |
| 14:31 |
VanessaE |
(or DVD) |
| 14:31 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
If I owned a computer, I would Jordach |
| 14:32 |
VanessaE |
e.g. you can boot live from it if your BIOS supports USB boot, and run from the thumbdrive, or install it. |
| 14:32 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
Vanessa, I actually installed Ubuntu to my drive like a normal HDD |
| 14:32 |
VanessaE |
Traxie21|Kindle: that should work fairly well too |
| 14:33 |
VanessaE |
just bear in mind that thumbdrives have poor write endurance, so you should try to run it read-only if you can |
| 14:33 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
it does, but every now and then, file browsers lock up for a few seconds |
| 14:33 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
oh sheet XD |
| 14:33 |
Taoki |
still not rotating correctly for some reason... |
| 14:34 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
I already ut MT on it |
| 14:34 |
Taoki |
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=hc9ebCXq |
| 14:34 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: ^ What might be wrong in that one? |
| 14:34 |
VanessaE |
Traxie21|Kindle: afaik, a thumbdrive only gives you a few hundred writes per block, maybe with wear levelling. |
| 14:34 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
is it rotating at all taoki? |
| 14:34 |
Taoki |
Traxie21|Kindle: Some seem to be rotating incorrectly, others not at all |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: I told you, param2 is the actual facedir :-) |
| 14:35 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
VanessaE: what does tha mean? |
| 14:35 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: Yes. But I need to modify it accordingly |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE |
paramtype2 just tells the engine what the number in param2 actually means :D |
| 14:35 |
Taoki |
ahhh |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: then you need to be setting param2, not paramtype2 |
| 14:35 |
Taoki |
Where is the actual rotation stored then? |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE |
in param2 :) |
| 14:35 |
Taoki |
hmm... |
| 14:35 |
Taoki |
Pretty sure I am setting param2. paramtype2 is just the name of a local float |
| 14:36 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: In my paste, parameters[5] means param2, not paramtype2. I named it badly |
| 14:37 |
Taoki |
So yes I am changing that |
| 14:37 |
Taoki |
And some things rotate just not all |
| 14:37 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: ok, but you should rename "paramtype2" also |
| 14:37 |
VanessaE |
so as not to confuse further :-) |
| 14:37 |
Taoki |
Sure |
| 14:37 |
Taoki |
What's wrong in that formula tho? |
| 14:37 |
VanessaE |
can you paste the node definition also? |
| 14:37 |
VanessaE |
the forumla looks right to me |
| 14:37 |
VanessaE |
formula* |
| 14:37 |
Taoki |
Later... I need to run now actually. Will see more when I get back |
| 14:37 |
Taoki |
thanks for the help |
| 14:38 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
bai |
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| 14:38 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: no prob. |
| 14:38 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
run hard¡ |
| 14:38 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
O_O |
| 14:38 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
!¡! |
| 14:40 |
rubenwardy |
hi all |
| 14:40 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 14:40 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
!help |
| 14:40 |
MinetestBot |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
| 14:40 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
hi ruben |
| 14:40 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
... |
| 14:40 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
kindle, wyunohave tabbed browsing? |
| 14:42 |
VanessaE |
time to hack your kindle and install debian or something ;) |
| 14:42 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
yeahumno |
| 14:43 |
NotReallyNick |
Make sure Debian has hardware support for Kindle first. |
| 14:43 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
the screen requires a specialized OS |
| 14:44 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
and I still want to read books :U |
| 14:44 |
NotReallyNick |
Books? What are those? |
| 14:44 |
* VanessaE |
hands Traxie21|Kindle her beat up old maptop - it's enough to run MT if you don't mind 15 fps :) |
| 14:44 |
NotReallyNick |
OH! They're those things you use to decorate shelves with. |
| 14:44 |
VanessaE |
LAPtop tha tis |
| 14:44 |
VanessaE |
fuck |
| 14:45 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
I'm used to 15FPS XD |
| 14:46 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
which first person shjootersare we talking? |
| 14:46 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 14:46 |
NotReallyNick |
I thought rebooting after an update was a Windows thing. So why do I have to reboot Ubuntu? |
| 14:46 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
jk |
| 14:47 |
NotReallyNick |
Ubuntu isn't Windows. Or at least, I don't think it is. |
| 14:47 |
VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: because lately people assume linux users are equally lazy |
| 14:47 |
NotReallyNick |
Ah. I see. |
| 14:47 |
VanessaE |
except of course kernel updates, that's a reasonable reason to reboot. |
| 14:47 |
VanessaE |
(it's not like everyone runs ksplice) |
| 14:47 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
i dun get it |
| 14:48 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
oh, how do you know if luajit is compiled in MT? |
| 14:48 |
NotReallyNick |
Yeah, I don't even know what ksplice is. I'm obviously not running it. |
| 14:48 |
NotReallyNick |
If you look in the cmake output, it'll mention LuaJIT. |
| 14:48 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
k |
| 14:48 |
VanessaE |
it's a commercial application that lets you install kernel updates and patches without restarting the system - the kernel can be restarted while the system is live. |
| 14:49 |
NotReallyNick |
It has at least three LuaJIT related lines. |
| 14:49 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
I installed curl and recompiled, but the serfverlist didnt come up |
| 14:49 |
NotReallyNick |
VanessaE: Oh, nice! |
| 14:49 |
VanessaE |
Traxie21|Kindle: I think you need gettext for that also? |
| 14:49 |
NotReallyNick |
Traxie21|Kindle: Yeah, Menche was having that issue as well. |
| 14:49 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
havit it too afaik |
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| 14:50 |
VanessaE |
for luajit, I compiled and installed that from their git repo, fuck using system libraries :-) |
| 14:50 |
PilzAdam |
short and precise: http://c55.me/blog/?p=1462 |
| 14:51 |
NotReallyNick |
Alright, I'm gone for now. I'll shut down the computer for whatever it wants to do and go get breakfast. Bye! |
| 14:51 |
VanessaE |
if irrlicht 1.8 weren't slower than 1.7, I'd be building against it, also |
| 14:51 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
^pro |
| 14:51 |
NotReallyNick |
Wow, that is short and precise. |
| 14:51 |
VanessaE |
jeez |
| 14:51 |
VanessaE |
talk about terse. |
| 14:52 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
wha does it say? |
| 14:52 |
VanessaE |
Minetest 0.4.6 came out 5 days ago: Download, Changelog, Forum post. |
| 14:52 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
lol |
| 14:52 |
VanessaE |
the fricken time/date stamp under it is longer :D |
| 14:53 |
[Admins] |
oops |
| 14:54 |
[Admins]_ |
... |
| 14:54 |
[Admins]_ |
screw you /nick |
| 14:54 |
[Admins]_ |
im off to laptop |
| 14:54 |
[Admins]_ |
cyas |
| 14:54 |
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| 14:55 |
VanessaE |
hah |
| 14:55 |
rubenwardy |
Is Iqualfragile here? |
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| 14:57 |
Traxie21 |
There we go |
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| 14:58 |
VanessaE |
Traxie21|XUbuntu: http://ifunny.mobi/#toTguB9J |
| 14:58 |
VanessaE |
apropos ;) |
| 14:58 |
Traxie21|XUbuntu |
lol |
| 14:59 |
Jordach |
Traxie21|XUbuntu, /nick Traxie21|Xubuntu |
| 14:59 |
Traxie21|XUbuntu |
Screw you, I spell it XUbuntu |
| 14:59 |
Traxie21|XUbuntu |
:P |
| 15:00 |
Kacey |
i spell it xubuntu |
| 15:00 |
Jordach |
Xubuntu or GTFO |
| 15:00 |
Traxie21|XUbuntu |
heck |
| 15:00 |
Traxie21|XUbuntu |
xUbuntu |
| 15:00 |
Jordach |
why do PilzAdam's mobs make me jump when they appear out of nowhere |
| 15:01 |
NotReallyNick |
http://xubuntu.org/: "Xubuntu is a community‑developed, Ubuntu‑based Linux operating system." |
| 15:01 |
NotReallyNick |
Only the "X" is capitalized. |
| 15:01 |
Jordach |
!g xubuntu |
| 15:01 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: http://xubuntu.org/ |
| 15:02 |
Traxie21|XUbuntu |
the logo is xubuntu, the title is Xubuntu, the pro's call it XUbuntu |
| 15:02 |
Jordach |
bullshit. |
| 15:02 |
Traxie21|XUbuntu |
fuck it |
| 15:02 |
VanessaE |
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 15:02 |
* NotReallyNick |
wonders why the most beautiful songs are never in English |
| 15:02 |
NotReallyNick |
No, what? |
| 15:03 |
VanessaE |
unity instead of xfce? blasphemer! |
| 15:03 |
Traxie21|Unity |
Music should never hvae words IMO |
| 15:03 |
Traxie21|Unity |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzgYqiOjc4Q |
| 15:04 |
* Jordach |
puts down the newspaper and slaps Traxie21|Unity with it |
| 15:04 |
NotReallyNick |
Meh. Unity isn't my cup of tea, but works. |
| 15:04 |
* Traxie21|Unity |
slaps newspaper with a Jordach |
| 15:05 |
KDE |
:O |
| 15:05 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, tell chanserv you want OP |
| 15:06 |
VanessaE |
why? |
| 15:06 |
Jordach |
these two nickfools |
| 15:06 |
Guest10236 |
wait |
| 15:06 |
Guest10236 |
wat |
| 15:06 |
Traxie21|Ubuntu |
There |
| 15:06 |
Jordach |
excuse me, but i cant take XUbutnu from a windows user |
| 15:06 |
Jordach |
> Implies pros are windows users |
| 15:07 |
Jordach |
anyways, luaJIT DOUBLED my framerate |
| 15:07 |
Traxie21|Ubuntu |
I am not a windows user, I am a forced windows user |
| 15:07 |
Traxie21|Ubuntu |
My home computers are Linux :3 |
| 15:08 |
Jordach |
OH DEAR GOD |
| 15:08 |
Jordach |
http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-090413-160808.php |
| 15:08 |
Jordach |
the entity glitch |
| 15:08 |
Traxie21|Ubuntu |
what library is needed for gettext? |
| 15:08 |
Jordach |
and that's the first case of conjoined twins in minetest |
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| 15:11 |
VanessaE |
Traxie21: I think I'm wrong regarding gettext. |
| 15:11 |
Traxie21 |
? |
| 15:11 |
gnome-fallback |
My frame rate isn't doubled by LuaJIT, but it is halved by jungles. |
| 15:11 |
VanessaE |
that's for internationalization stuff. |
| 15:11 |
Traxie21 |
what do you mena? |
| 15:12 |
VanessaE |
(and the package name is just "gettext") |
| 15:12 |
VanessaE |
gnome-fallback: jit won't affect client-side operations; jungles probably exhaust your render buffers, do you see a bunch of spew about "out of indices" in the terminal? |
| 15:12 |
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| 15:13 |
Traxie21 |
There we go, now I'm compiling everything |
| 15:13 |
Traxie21 |
Oh MY GOD |
| 15:13 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 15:14 |
Traxie21 |
Update Manager: 849 Updates to install |
| 15:14 |
Traxie21 |
... |
| 15:14 |
VanessaE |
eek |
| 15:14 |
VanessaE |
talk about out of date ;) |
| 15:14 |
gnome-fallback |
I didn't think LuaJIT would have an effect, but I tested as Jordach claimed it doubled his frame rate. I also guessed the frame rate issue had to do with jungle grass rendering, but I wasn't watching Terminal at the time. |
| 15:14 |
Traxie21 |
oh shit |
| 15:14 |
Traxie21 |
running distro upgrade on accident |
| 15:14 |
VanessaE |
oops |
| 15:15 |
Jordach |
Traxie21, serves you right |
| 15:15 |
Jordach |
anyways |
| 15:15 |
Traxie21 |
Fortunately, it stopped because apt-get was already running :P |
| 15:15 |
Jordach |
NotReallyNick, I'm using sphax's texture pack and im getting the same fps as i would with 16x |
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| 15:15 |
NotReallyNick |
What resolution is Sphax's? |
| 15:15 |
Jordach |
256x |
| 15:16 |
NotReallyNick |
Ah, nice. |
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| 15:16 |
Jordach |
NotReallyNick, simple mobs are installed |
| 15:17 |
NotReallyNick |
You mean in your screenshot? Yeah, I saw the sand creature. |
| 15:17 |
Jordach |
conjoined twins |
| 15:18 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, can i has list of mods |
| 15:19 |
mauvebic |
any have exp with wimax ? |
| 15:19 |
Jordach |
main site updated again: |
| 15:19 |
Jordach |
Minetest is developed by a bunch of guys and girls with blocky heads. |
| 15:19 |
Traxie21 |
old news jordach |
| 15:19 |
NotReallyNick |
Yes. Yes it is. |
| 15:20 |
Jordach |
Traxie21, i dont read the main bit as a can say it word for word |
| 15:20 |
Traxie21 |
Like, 4 days old news |
| 15:20 |
Traxie21 |
lol |
| 15:20 |
Traxie21 |
im kiddin |
| 15:20 |
Traxie21 |
Woo |
| 15:20 |
Traxie21 |
On update 822 out of 848 |
| 15:20 |
Traxie21 |
*849 |
| 15:22 |
Jordach |
there really needs to be developer skins and high level forum user skins |
| 15:22 |
Kacey |
? |
| 15:22 |
Traxie21 |
For you Jordach? |
| 15:22 |
Jordach |
Traxie21, anyone who i can remember off the top of my head gets one |
| 15:22 |
Jordach |
EXCEPT likwid |
| 15:23 |
Traxie21 |
PilzAdam, VanessaE, Likwid H-Craft, jojoa1997, darkeagle, celeron55, rubenwardy, Jordach, hmmm, Sphax, ashenk99, |
| 15:23 |
Jordach |
Traxie21, sphax is exempt, he made his own |
| 15:23 |
Traxie21 |
Menche, Mito55, parmat, prestigitator |
| 15:23 |
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| 15:23 |
PilzAdam |
Traxie21, wtf? |
| 15:23 |
Traxie21 |
Calinou, Casimir |
| 15:23 |
Traxie21 |
? |
| 15:24 |
Traxie21 |
Oh shit |
| 15:24 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 15:24 |
rubenwardy |
Wow, I am a "high level forum user |
| 15:24 |
rubenwardy |
" |
| 15:24 |
Traxie21 |
Sorry guys, forgot that typing names beeps you |
| 15:24 |
Kacey |
what about me? |
| 15:24 |
Traxie21 |
hehe |
| 15:24 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 15:24 |
Kacey |
i think player skins should be client side |
| 15:24 |
* NotReallyNick |
feels left out as well |
| 15:25 |
VanessaE |
wb Calinou |
| 15:25 |
Calinou |
rubenwardy: are you a thread-safe one? |
| 15:25 |
* Calinou |
doubts |
| 15:25 |
Jordach |
Calinou, zing |
| 15:25 |
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| 15:26 |
rubenwardy |
erm |
| 15:26 |
rubenwardy |
Is that an insult, compliment, or just teasing? |
| 15:27 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 15:31 |
Jordach |
working on PilzAdam's custom skin |
| 15:32 |
Calinou |
write "pilz" on his shirt |
| 15:32 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 15:32 |
ShadowNinja |
anyone else noticed this issue with minetest textures? when a mod has a image overlayed over annother(for example the ores in moreores) if the lower image(stone) has a higher resolution than the ore image the ore image will only show up in the top left corner, I think it should be overlayed over the entire node because although it will look out of place it will be better than not finding any ores bacause you have a 512x texture pack and |
| 15:33 |
mauvebic |
tldr lol |
| 15:33 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: known issue. |
| 15:33 |
VanessaE |
imho, the smaller one should be scaled up to fit. |
| 15:33 |
ShadowNinja |
do you know what file I could modify to fix it? |
| 15:33 |
VanessaE |
why that isn't being done, no idea. |
| 15:34 |
ShadowNinja |
exactly |
| 15:34 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam's skin will be BF3 based |
| 15:34 |
VanessaE |
there isn't one short of screwing with the rendering code I guess. Or scale the texture file up manually and supply an extra copy of it in the texture pack you're using. |
| 15:35 |
ShadowNinja |
do you know what file contains that code? |
| 15:35 |
VanessaE |
nope, no clue |
| 15:39 |
NotReallyNick |
Yeah, I use a custom texture for the default ores, but not for stone. Or, I did, untill I visited a server that used 32 pixel textures. |
| 15:39 |
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| 15:39 |
Calinou |
windows is best at drawing 32 pixel textures |
| 15:39 |
Jordach |
Calinou, lol |
| 15:40 |
alex256 |
lol |
| 15:41 |
khonkhortisan |
So if you put a 16x16 image on a 20x20 image, it should scale to 80 pixels so it scales evenly? |
| 15:41 |
VanessaE |
no, it should just zoom the 16px image at the renderer stage or whatever |
| 15:41 |
VanessaE |
it's not like the 20px image is only ever seen at 20px in size in practice |
| 15:41 |
khonkhortisan |
if the 16 only went to 20, you'd have four pixels that were double wide |
| 15:41 |
VanessaE |
it's more like 1000px when you're up close |
| 15:42 |
VanessaE |
nonono, scale it at the rendering stage, not at the layering stage |
| 15:42 |
VanessaE |
does a 16px texture of say stone look any different in apparent size than say, a 64px texture of dirt on the node next to it? |
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| 15:43 |
VanessaE |
they look the same size because they're scaled to the same relative dimensions, even though they're not the same rez. |
| 15:44 |
khonkhortisan |
I wonder if, in attempting to scale the smaller image, someone accidentally will scale the larger one too |
| 15:47 |
alex256 |
i noticed watching my server run in the console ....<name> places node default : wood at (location) and <name>places node default:chest at<location> and <name> moves stuff to to chest at<location> ........it made me blush a little....lol |
| 15:48 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 15:49 |
Kacey |
!up sunrisetest.no-ip.org |
| 15:49 |
MinetestBot |
sunrisetest.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down |
| 15:49 |
Kacey |
!server |
| 15:49 |
MinetestBot |
Kacey: 0gb.us's server [latest stable] | 0gb.us:30000 up (73.816%) |
| 15:50 |
Kacey |
!server |
| 15:50 |
MinetestBot |
Kacey: Mrtux's Minetest server | minetest.org:30001 up (79.998%) |
| 15:50 |
Calinou |
a moment of culture and science: <Kacey> lol |
| 15:50 |
alex256 |
!server |
| 15:50 |
MinetestBot |
alex256: 0gb.us's server [latest stable] | 0gb.us:30000 up (73.816%) |
| 15:50 |
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| 15:53 |
NotReallyNick |
Does that give you a random server? |
| 15:53 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, http://i.imgur.com/qoPMdpv.png |
| 15:54 |
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| 15:54 |
alex256 |
i am not sure what it does? |
| 15:54 |
Jordach |
!server |
| 15:54 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: LPGC Minetest Server | games.libreplanet.org:30000 up (91.450%) |
| 15:54 |
Jordach |
!server |
| 15:54 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: glomie's server | 94.23.33.108:30000 up (99.666%) |
| 15:54 |
Jordach |
!server |
| 15:54 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: AviActu Global Minetest Server (0.4.3) | aviactu.info:30000 up (97.454%) |
| 15:54 |
Jordach |
see, random |
| 15:54 |
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| 15:55 |
alex256 |
cool learned me something there... |
| 15:55 |
NotReallyNick |
Hmm. It seems my server malfunctions had a lot of impact on my up time. |
| 15:58 |
alex256 |
does !up work with ip addresses? |
| 15:58 |
Jordach |
!up jordachscity.tl |
| 15:58 |
Jordach |
!up jordachscity.tk |
| 15:58 |
MinetestBot |
jordachscity.tl:30000 seems to be down |
| 15:58 |
MinetestBot |
jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.247ms) |
| 15:58 |
Traxie21 |
!up sunrisetest.no-ip.org |
| 15:58 |
MinetestBot |
sunrisetest.no-ip.org:30000 is up (1.177ms) |
| 15:59 |
Traxie21 |
Kacey, its up now |
| 15:59 |
NotReallyNick |
Yes, it works with IP addresses. |
| 15:59 |
NotReallyNick |
!up 127.0.0.1 |
| 15:59 |
alex256 |
cool deal |
| 15:59 |
MinetestBot |
127.0.0.1:30000 seems to be down |
| 15:59 |
NotReallyNick |
!up 127.0.0.2 |
| 15:59 |
MinetestBot |
127.0.0.2:30000 seems to be down |
| 15:59 |
NotReallyNick |
!up localhost. |
| 15:59 |
MinetestBot |
localhost.:30000 seems to be down |
| 16:00 |
alex256 |
!up 108.237.169.225 |
| 16:00 |
MinetestBot |
108.237.169.225:30000 is up (0.248ms) |
| 16:00 |
Jordach |
yo Traxie21 http://i.imgur.com/qoPMdpv.png |
| 16:00 |
Jordach |
there's PilzAdam's skin |
| 16:02 |
Traxie21 |
Thats PilzAdam? |
| 16:02 |
Traxie21 |
Lol |
| 16:02 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 16:02 |
Traxie21 |
Not at all how I imagined him |
| 16:03 |
Calinou |
-1 for minecraft skin viewer (or whatever that is called) |
| 16:04 |
mauvebic |
lol skin viewer - sounds very hannibal lecter |
| 16:04 |
mauvebic |
"it puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again" |
| 16:04 |
Jordach |
Calinou, best choice on linux |
| 16:04 |
* Jordach |
doesnt want to run two clients |
| 16:04 |
alex256 |
dont hurt me dog lady |
| 16:05 |
alex256 |
*my |
| 16:05 |
Jordach |
Traxie21, http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/PilzAdam/stats/265755239/xbox/ |
| 16:05 |
alex256 |
great movie |
| 16:05 |
Traxie21 |
oh ok |
| 16:10 |
Jordach |
huh: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/Mercury%20Rain.ogg |
| 16:11 |
Jordach |
Minetest Trailer could use this |
| 16:11 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: so do it :) |
| 16:12 |
VanessaE |
that song was released for use with Minetest, with permission of the original author (Skaven/Future Crew) |
| 16:13 |
* Jordach |
knows that VanessaE is brown eyed (as in face eyes) |
| 16:13 |
VanessaE |
bzzt |
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| 16:14 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, well thats what the photo says |
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| 16:14 |
VanessaE |
what, my avatar pic? odd, as my eyes are blue. |
| 16:14 |
Jordach |
well that helps |
| 16:15 |
Jordach |
i also sampled your skin colour |
| 16:15 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, no |
| 16:15 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, hm? |
| 16:15 |
VanessaE |
o.O making a MT skin? |
| 16:15 |
PilzAdam |
I dont want a battlefield based skin |
| 16:16 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, you say you love BF3 |
| 16:16 |
PilzAdam |
but bf3 doesnt fit into MT |
| 16:16 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, and neither does your changes :P |
| 16:17 |
* Calinou |
pours renewable lava on PilzAdam's head |
| 16:17 |
* PilzAdam |
redefines the lava to be not renewable |
| 16:18 |
Calinou |
NotReallyNick will kill you then |
| 16:18 |
Jordach |
minetest.register_alias("default:lava", "renewable:lava") |
| 16:18 |
Jordach |
the3re |
| 16:18 |
Jordach |
there* |
| 16:19 |
* NotReallyNick |
will attempt to get renewable lava back on a later date, but will mostly ignore the change for now |
| 16:19 |
Traxie21 |
VanessaE: Someday I'll upload some of my music |
| 16:21 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, a devil with dark armor would be nice |
| 16:21 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, alright |
| 16:21 |
PilzAdam |
bbl |
| 16:21 |
Jordach |
anyways, i have your skin in xcf |
| 16:21 |
* Jordach |
always makes xcf copies of the skin |
| 16:21 |
Jordach |
with correct layers |
| 16:21 |
Traxie21 |
Icanhasskin? |
| 16:21 |
Jordach |
mozilla seamoney, havent seen that in years |
| 16:21 |
Jordach |
Traxie21, yres |
| 16:21 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 16:21 |
Traxie21 |
:D |
| 16:22 |
Traxie21 |
Jordach makes a turd suit for Traxie |
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* Jordach |
sighs |
| 16:22 |
Traxie21 |
jk |
| 16:22 |
sokomine |
calinou, pilzadam: sdzen has a very nice sandstonebrick texture (basicly the common xyz-brick-texture in light yellow) that i'd like to see in the game. can one of you grab it and include it? :-) |
| 16:23 |
* NotReallyNick |
remembers back when he had skin ... but that was before the operation. |
| 16:23 |
Traxie21 |
O-o |
| 16:23 |
Jordach |
NotReallyNick, i can make one for you |
| 16:23 |
Jordach |
provided you ask me for a design |
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NotReallyNick |
I was talking about literal biological skin. |
| 16:23 |
Jordach |
if i already know your likes, then i will suit it for you |
| 16:24 |
Jordach |
O.O |
| 16:24 |
Kacey |
renewable lava is awesone though :( |
| 16:24 |
NotReallyNick |
Yeah, it is. |
| 16:24 |
* Jordach |
can't tell if VanessaE's hair flows down |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
it does. |
| 16:24 |
Jordach |
better |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
when it's not in a pony tail, it's long, flows down, somewhat wavy. |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
its* |
| 16:25 |
rubenwardy |
(5:10:54 PM) Jordach: huh: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/Mercury%20Rain.ogg |
| 16:25 |
rubenwardy |
(5:11:04 PM) Jordach: Minetest Trailer could use this |
| 16:25 |
rubenwardy |
Nice. I might use that |
| 16:25 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: go for it. |
| 16:25 |
rubenwardy |
(for my trailer) |
| 16:25 |
sokomine |
btw, hi everyone :-) |
| 16:25 |
VanessaE |
hey sokomine |
| 16:26 |
NotReallyNick |
Hello. |
| 16:26 |
NotReallyNick |
VanessaE: You wrote that song? |
| 16:26 |
VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: no. |
| 16:26 |
VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: that's by Skaven/Future Crew. |
| 16:28 |
* NotReallyNick |
sees "Games" and "Minetest" as separate categories on VanessaE's site, because Minetest isn't a game to her. It's a way of life. |
| 16:29 |
Exio |
lol |
| 16:29 |
Exio |
(hi btw :P) |
| 16:29 |
NotReallyNick |
Hello. |
| 16:29 |
NakedFury |
any know of a sci fi book series with galactic war and politics, backstabbing, betraying, space battles, more politics, etc |
| 16:30 |
NotReallyNick |
Sorry, no. |
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VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: haha, no because most of that site was coded when I was obsessed with commodore stuff :) |
| 16:30 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: yeah, anything about Star Wars :) |
| 16:31 |
sdzen |
and why were you obsessed with commodore stuff? |
| 16:31 |
NotReallyNick |
Hmm. So commodore was a way of life, but not Minetest. |
| 16:31 |
* NotReallyNick |
sees how it is |
| 16:31 |
VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: I had't discovered it yet :-) |
| 16:31 |
NakedFury |
no magic |
| 16:31 |
VanessaE |
NotReallyNick: 25 years versus 1 year. Do the math :) |
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* Kacey |
wants to make an enderchest mod |
| 16:50 |
Jordach |
Kacey, mithril chests in technic will do the same job |
| 16:50 |
Exio |
didn't someone write a "Wireless Chest" mod? |
| 16:50 |
Kacey |
but i want them to interact with pipes and filters |
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sokomine |
nakedfury: hm. how about dune? that consists almost entirely of backstabbing |
| 16:54 |
NakedFury |
good recommendation but already saw the movies(old and new) plus read the books |
| 16:54 |
NakedFury |
enjoyed more the first books before the super god thing |
| 16:54 |
Jordach |
VanessaE's skin: http://imgur.com/a/iN7XF |
| 16:54 |
sokomine |
have you tried books by ian m. banks? those are very good as well and large-scale |
| 16:55 |
NakedFury |
I think I have some by him waiting their turn |
| 16:56 |
sokomine |
well, read them :-) |
| 16:56 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: eh, I look like a boy in that :-/ |
| 16:57 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, cant have all the details |
| 16:57 |
sokomine |
you may also like alistair reynolds. his relevation space series is a bit dark... |
| 16:59 |
sokomine |
or, if you want more space battles and less deep politics, timothy zahns books may fit as well |
| 16:59 |
sokomine |
but largest scale is banks i think |
| 17:00 |
Jordach |
http://imgur.com/gallery/d16uthz |
| 17:01 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, http://i.imgur.com/wIFmMaq.png |
| 17:01 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 17:01 |
Jordach |
better? |
| 17:01 |
VanessaE |
a little :) |
| 17:03 |
ShadowNinja |
Kacey: 0gb.us made a morechests mod with a wifi chest, you could make it work with pipeworks and have him push it/upload it |
| 17:03 |
VanessaE |
technic does that already doesn't it? |
| 17:03 |
Kacey |
nope |
| 17:03 |
Kacey |
Jordach, where is my skin? |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
Kacey, im doing things one at a time |
| 17:04 |
Kacey |
ok |
| 17:04 |
Jordach |
PA comes next as he requested after I started VanessaE's |
| 17:12 |
Kacey |
well i guess i could figureout Nore's api and make wifi chests work with pipeworks |
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Kacey |
NotReallyNick, are you available? |
| 17:24 |
Jordach |
is PilzAdam around? |
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Leoneof |
hi, i can't play minetest offline in Windows, how to do that? |
| 17:33 |
Jordach |
Leoneof, you create a singleplayer world under the singleplayer tab |
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| 17:35 |
Leoneof |
Jordach: it's trying to connect to the server :\ |
| 17:36 |
Calinou |
Leoneof: do not put your minetest in program files |
| 17:36 |
Calinou |
put it in C:\Games\ if you don't want to have it on your desktop |
| 17:37 |
Leoneof |
actually, it's in D:\Games\minetest |
| 17:38 |
Leoneof |
maybe i have to download extra things? |
| 17:38 |
Leoneof |
i got minetest from the first link http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547 |
| 17:39 |
Calinou |
use an official build if you want to avoid potential bugs |
| 17:39 |
Calinou |
http://minetest.net => download |
| 17:40 |
Leoneof |
Calinou: ok, i hope this build is executable file |
| 17:40 |
Calinou |
it is... |
| 17:42 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, yes |
| 17:42 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, you like? |
| 17:43 |
PilzAdam |
like what? |
| 17:43 |
Jordach |
http://imgur.com/a/wEiVY |
| 17:43 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 17:45 |
Leoneof |
Calinou: still same problem :\ |
| 17:46 |
Leoneof |
it's trying to connect to port 30011 |
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Jordach |
Leoneof, running the game as admin or user |
| 17:51 |
Leoneof |
Jordach: same |
| 17:52 |
Jordach |
? |
| 17:52 |
Jordach |
as in privilages on windows system |
| 17:52 |
Leoneof |
Jordach: it's still trying to connect to 3xxxx port |
| 17:53 |
NakedFury |
there is some shit wrong |
| 17:53 |
Leoneof |
but i can play offline in Linux :\ |
| 17:53 |
arsdragonfly |
Are any ports already in use? |
| 17:53 |
NakedFury |
my proccess: open game hit Singleplayer tab double click world and play |
| 17:54 |
Leoneof |
NakedFury: same :[ |
| 17:54 |
Leoneof |
i need to download "world" |
| 17:54 |
Leoneof |
? |
| 17:55 |
NakedFury |
what are you trying to do? |
| 17:55 |
Leoneof |
i want to play minetest in offline mode, to build something |
| 17:55 |
NakedFury |
offline mode is singleplayer |
| 17:56 |
NakedFury |
hit singleplayer tab then Create a new world: make a name and click the game type then play |
| 17:56 |
arsdragonfly |
Try to start a server from the command line to see if there are any problems |
| 17:57 |
Leoneof |
ok |
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Leoneof |
arsdragonfly|pho: how to start a server? |
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arsdragonfly |
minetest.exe --server |
| 18:02 |
Leoneof |
arsdragonfly: how to start a server? |
| 18:02 |
Leoneof |
ok |
| 18:02 |
arsdragonfly |
in the command prompt |
| 18:03 |
Jordach |
Leoneof, navigate CMD to Minetest's location |
| 18:03 |
Jordach |
BUT DON'T RUN THE SERVER AND CLIENT FROM THE SAME LOCATION. |
| 18:05 |
arsdragonfly |
Jordach,Why aren't the client and the server spilt into 2 binaries on Windows? |
| 18:05 |
arsdragonfly |
They are on Linux and it's fine to run both |
| 18:07 |
Jordach |
arsdragonfly, they share the same dirs, and they may corrupt the may |
| 18:08 |
Leoneof |
nothing new -_- |
| 18:09 |
Jordach |
ehm, bug concerning the stable |
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Jordach |
caves are not GENERATED |
| 18:09 |
Leoneof |
should work on Vista? :) |
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* Kacey |
is getting bored |
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Jordach |
I changed the features bit to this: "Walk around, dig and build in an infinite voxel world (or boxel, as reddit calls it), and craft stuff from raw materials such as diamonds, MESE, Gold and other materials to build your dream world." |
| 18:27 |
Jordach |
wrong channel again |
| 18:30 |
Jordach |
anyways, im working on the new homepaeg |
| 18:30 |
Jordach |
page* |
| 18:32 |
proller |
make serverlist tab please |
| 18:32 |
proller |
or serverlist on main |
| 18:32 |
Leoneof |
fix to ignore server in offline mode, please |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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sapier |
does anyone remember the command to place an entity? |
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Menche |
in-game command? |
| 19:06 |
Menche |
in-game is /spawnentity some:entity |
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fgr |
hi |
| 19:08 |
fgr |
anyone here for being so kind to tell me more about the latest mt release for log infos? |
| 19:08 |
fgr |
except someone reads it |
| 19:08 |
Menche |
you mean how to enable logging? |
| 19:08 |
fgr |
no |
| 19:09 |
Exio |
the changelog? |
| 19:09 |
Exio |
http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog#0.4.5_.E2.86.92_0.4.6 ? |
| 19:09 |
Menche |
dev.minetest.net |
| 19:09 |
fgr |
meaning to get more infos like the INFO and Server Messages |
| 19:09 |
Exio |
ah |
| 19:09 |
ShadowNinja |
set debug_log_level=2 in minetest.conf |
| 19:10 |
fgr |
ok this is server side relatet not client side |
| 19:10 |
fgr |
debug i found so far but does not really help to search server errors |
| 19:10 |
fgr |
the switch for trace and verbose also does not get much infos |
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fgr |
except you can read hex dump |
| 19:12 |
ShadowNinja |
trace/verboose/info should give you a lot of info if you use it correctly, and the setting IS server-side |
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fgr |
sorry got ping timeout? --- |
| 19:16 |
fgr |
in case i missed someth. is there any solution to gain more server side log infos |
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* Jordach |
sees Calinou's IP |
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yvi |
Hi |
| 19:25 |
yvi |
I have wool and I want to make a bed. How can I do that ? |
| 19:25 |
* yvi |
using http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2787 |
| 19:29 |
Calinou |
Jordach, play red eclipse and I'll see your IP too |
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Calinou |
hi tablet user! |
| 19:29 |
Jordach |
Calinou, haha |
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Calinou |
yvi, use a beds mod that uses wool for crafting |
| 19:29 |
* jojoa1997|Tablet |
sees a pattern |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
sfan you are evil you blocked likwid from your site right? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82722#p82722 |
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* jojoa1997|Tablet |
hasnt played singleplayer survival (except for testing) in a while |
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Exio |
i didn't play MT for like... 2months? more maybe :P |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
wow only 14 away from 5000 users |
| 19:32 |
Exio |
? |
| 19:32 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
not playing minetest is kiinda reguvinating |
| 19:32 |
Exio |
rewat |
| 19:33 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
refreshing |
| 19:33 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i was using big words there |
| 19:33 |
Exio |
i still don't get what it means :P |
| 19:33 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
if you get a bunch of random letter in one post im sorry i got some food under my key |
| 19:34 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
ok got it out |
| 19:35 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Exio it means i and taking vacation from playing minetest |
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Calinou |
jojoa1997|Tablet, you're using a keyboard with your tablet? or did you put food in your tablet's screen? :P |
| 19:41 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
yes i put food under my tabletys screen |
| 19:41 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
no i was eating penut butter crackers and some of the stuff slipped under my tablet keyboard |
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Stardancer |
hi, can anyone tell me how to host a LAN server? |
| 19:43 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
go to advance tab\ |
| 19:44 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
chose the info you want on the bottom |
| 19:44 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
and then host it |
| 19:44 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
and then your freind typs in your ip adress |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
ok who here is the canadian teacher |
| 19:44 |
Stardancer |
just my local network address? |
| 19:45 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
yeah |
| 19:45 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
the canadian teacher that hosts a server for her/his students |
| 19:46 |
Stardancer |
when I do the other version of hosting, it shows all sorts of server data. does it not show this in LAN mode? |
| 19:49 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
idk |
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sfan5 |
<jojoa1997|Tablet> sfan you are evil you blocked likwid from your site right? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82722#p82722 |
| 19:54 |
sfan5 |
the fak? |
| 19:55 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
he says he cant get on and you suggested yesterday sending hime to some english tyuper programs and when he passes send him to minetest.net |
| 19:55 |
sfan5 |
Stardancer: you mean the command line "minetestserver" or "minetest --server" way, right? |
| 19:56 |
Stardancer |
um, no, I mean using the "multiplayer" tab. |
| 19:56 |
Stardancer |
when I start a server there, it has all sorts of server data in the upper left |
| 19:56 |
sfan5 |
well.. what do you mean by "server data"? |
| 19:56 |
Menche |
either the minetestserver or the gui method should be accessible from LAN |
| 19:57 |
Menche |
and either will be accessible from the Internet if properly forwarded |
| 19:57 |
Stardancer |
sever version, uptime, client name |
| 19:58 |
sfan5 |
ohh... thats a message the server sends to the client, it will fade out after some time |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
has anyone tried the new player setting movement,gravity,speed in a mod |
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Hwkiller |
cool; minetest works great over a phone connection |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
? |
| 20:15 |
Hwkiller |
just played at work (nothing to do today); tethered my phone to laptop |
| 20:15 |
Hwkiller |
played my homeserver :p |
| 20:15 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
nice |
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khonkhortisan |
How can I make a lua function modify the variable it was given, instead of its copy of the variable? |
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Stardancer |
how deep does the game go? |
| 20:25 |
Jordach |
-31000 blocks |
| 20:25 |
Jordach |
it's REALLY deep |
| 20:25 |
Stardancer |
31k? wow. |
| 20:26 |
Stardancer |
Yeah, I noticed. I was trying to see how deep. I'm running out of torches... and diamond pickaxes. |
| 20:27 |
Stardancer |
ooo! but I finally found lava! |
| 20:28 |
Calinou |
-30912 to be exact-ish |
| 20:28 |
Jordach |
Calinou, correct |
| 20:28 |
Calinou |
Stardancer, diamond tools = mese tools |
| 20:28 |
Calinou |
they are exactly the same |
| 20:28 |
Stardancer |
good to know. what are mese shards good for? |
| 20:28 |
Calinou |
mese crystals = craft mese tools with, and blocks |
| 20:29 |
Jordach |
smaller less powerful items that dont need a entire crystal |
| 20:29 |
Calinou |
mese fragments = useless, mods can bring an use to them |
| 20:29 |
Calinou |
you cannot craft fragments into a crystal |
| 20:29 |
Stardancer |
okay. |
| 20:29 |
Stardancer |
does copper do anything? |
| 20:29 |
Calinou |
iirc, no |
| 20:29 |
Calinou |
just copper blocks :P |
| 20:30 |
Calinou |
it's "Mese" not MESE, Jordach |
| 20:30 |
Calinou |
and "gold" probably shouldn't start a capital |
| 20:31 |
Jordach |
Calinou, fixed |
| 20:31 |
Jordach |
anyways, here's the prototype new homepage: http://c55.me/minetest4/doku.php?id=start |
| 20:32 |
khonkhortisan |
You should bring saplings underground with you to not run out of wood |
| 20:32 |
Calinou |
^ free source of apples too :P |
| 20:32 |
Calinou |
and use leaves as furnace fuel if you don't have coal/wood |
| 20:33 |
Stardancer |
fluid dynamics on lava are awkward? |
| 20:33 |
Calinou |
do you use finite liquid? |
| 20:34 |
Stardancer |
is that default? |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
nope |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
look at the settings menu |
| 20:34 |
Hwkiller |
in moreores, copper and tin can combine to make bronze stuff |
| 20:35 |
Hwkiller |
but default yeah; it's worthless |
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Hwkiller |
mese shards can be used in the carts mod iirc; they're for specifying an "acceleration" rail |
| 20:35 |
Stardancer |
just started using today. was looking at minecraft textures and the page mentioned the game. so, quite new |
| 20:36 |
Calinou |
:O |
| 20:36 |
Calinou |
what page? |
| 20:36 |
Stardancer |
bdcraft |
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Jordach |
Stardancer, if it's sphax purebd craft |
| 20:36 |
Calinou |
ah |
| 20:36 |
Jordach |
then yes |
| 20:36 |
Jordach |
anyways, that'll win us some more users |
| 20:37 |
Stardancer |
it's the very last item on the tex page. had to check it out |
| 20:37 |
Jordach |
Stardancer, our current homepage at http://minetest.net will be replaced by this: http://c55.me/minetest4/doku.php?id=start |
| 20:38 |
Hwkiller |
looks nice |
| 20:39 |
Stardancer |
I believe you did a better job with the old pictures |
| 20:40 |
Stardancer |
they give a feel of depth to the game. all of the new ones are looking at walls |
| 20:40 |
Jordach |
Stardancer, youll find that the older pics didnt have shaders, or anything special |
| 20:41 |
Jordach |
these are upto date with the current version |
| 20:41 |
Stardancer |
that's great, but I'm saying that the composition isn't great |
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Stardancer |
the pics on the original sold me on the download to try it |
| 20:41 |
hmmmm |
http://i.imgur.com/HiNQp0u.jpg |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
-ENOT_FUN |
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Stardancer |
new page, I don't think I would've. |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
'night |
| 20:42 |
Hwkiller |
Needs pictures of giant caves |
| 20:42 |
Hwkiller |
and super deep tunnels |
| 20:42 |
NakedFury |
hmmmm please tell me that is not you |
| 20:42 |
Stardancer |
if you could take current ones from more epic angles, like the first ones |
| 20:42 |
NakedFury |
you look like a desperate teen to fit in with the cool guys |
| 20:43 |
Stardancer |
like the city(I think it is?) in the top one would probably look awesome from a bird eye view |
| 20:43 |
Stardancer |
or, at least, a higher vantage point |
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Hwkiller |
http://i.imgur.com/mxTPkQi.png |
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NakedFury |
I spot steam on your sistem |
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Hwkiller |
yes? I launch minetest through it |
| 20:48 |
NakedFury |
nice |
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Stardancer |
one thing I'm curious about: how is this game bigger than MC, but use less CPU? |
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ShadowNinja |
Stardancer: Minetest is writen in C++, one of the fastest programing languages there is, MineCraft is writen in java, which is famous for memory usage and is nowhere near C++ in CPU usage |
| 20:57 |
Exio |
there is something in the middle |
| 20:57 |
Stardancer |
I wonder why they went with java. o.0 |
| 20:57 |
Exio |
easy"ness" |
| 20:57 |
Stardancer |
it's funny that the game runs 10x faster on a better texture res and costs infinitely less |
| 20:57 |
Uberi |
because they are famimliar with it |
| 20:58 |
Uberi |
and that is a lot more important for the first prototype |
| 20:58 |
ShadowNinja |
Stardancer: because they knew java and it was easier for them, It is also very portable |
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Stardancer |
hm. amusing. Well, thank you all for all of your help. Have a great day! |
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NakedFury |
notch used to work on Wurm ONline which is written in java so I think his desicion to use java was easy |
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NakedFury |
also he doesnt have to compile all the time to make little tests on the code he is writting |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
why noit |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
naked fury could you update the doku texture pack. we have alot more and i also want the other versions |
| 21:18 |
Taoki |
Hmm. Text file structures in mapgen might not be so slow after all. 1000 nodes seem to spawn in only half a second with my structures mod |
| 21:19 |
Uberi |
but that's still half a ms per node |
| 21:20 |
Uberi |
which in comparison to the buttery smooth mapgen I've been seeing since 0.4.6, feels like frozen molassas |
| 21:20 |
Taoki |
I think it would take as long for 1 node. It's prolly the server responding to and add_node requests piled up |
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Uberi |
lua overhead, perhaps? |
| 21:20 |
Uberi |
hey Menche, you made pixelous, right? |
| 21:21 |
Menche |
yes |
| 21:21 |
Uberi |
it's lovely :) |
| 21:21 |
Menche |
thx, it kinda died a few times :P |
| 21:21 |
Uberi |
but could use an update for the new items and stuff |
| 21:21 |
Menche |
thinking of working on it again soon |
| 21:21 |
Uberi |
cool |
| 21:22 |
Menche |
will probably switch it to github so i don't have to make zips manually |
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Exio |
NakedFury: mc devs don't have a slow pc, i can compile mt from scratch + run it here in.. 2 minutes, remove the scratch part and well |
| 21:26 |
Exio |
mid-end pc |
| 21:27 |
Exio |
VanessaE's phenom is faster than this |
| 21:27 |
NakedFury |
yeah but I meant pressing a button and instantly testing you changes |
| 21:27 |
Exio |
well, if i configure my "ide" properly for MT i can do that :P |
| 21:28 |
Uberi |
there's no dynamic method body replacement in C++ yet AFAIK |
| 21:28 |
Exio |
but i don't do much "real code" in the core, so.. :P |
| 21:29 |
Exio |
dynamic method body replacement? |
| 21:29 |
mauvebic |
ugh, sewers backed up, while in the shower lol |
| 21:29 |
Exio |
like VS "change stuff in code on-the-fly"? |
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* RealBadAngel |
yawns |
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RealBadAngel |
whats up folks? |
| 21:31 |
Uberi |
unifiedinventory API! :P |
| 21:31 |
RealBadAngel |
im workin on UI atm |
| 21:32 |
RealBadAngel |
fixin now crafting guide |
| 21:32 |
Uberi |
\o/ |
| 21:32 |
RealBadAngel |
i wrote code for it month ago or so, its about time to use it ;) |
| 21:34 |
ShadowNinja |
Uberi: I found an issue with digilines if you have push now of see Jeija later, if you place a digiline next to a unknown node it will crash at around line 45, the fixed line looks like this: local digilinespec = minetest.registered_nodes[minetest.env:get_node(pos).name] and minetest.[...].digiline |
| 21:35 |
Uberi |
nah I don't have push to digilines repo |
| 21:35 |
Uberi |
do open an issue though |
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khonkhortisan |
woah. |
| 21:39 |
khonkhortisan |
I just disconnected from all channels |
| 21:41 |
khonkhortisan |
Last person I heard was menche - reading the logs - I was going to say "I'm cheating. I'm setting a table's key to the name of an image, then the value to true. That way I don't have to go through the table to remove duplicates, only to move the keys to values." |
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khonkhortisan |
I have 722 images, only including nodes and items. |
| 21:51 |
sapier |
what are you trying to do? |
| 21:51 |
khonkhortisan |
autogenerated one-pixel textures |
| 21:52 |
sapier |
in lua? |
| 21:52 |
khonkhortisan |
Forgot a string separator, it's only 716 images. |
| 21:52 |
khonkhortisan |
Yes. |
| 21:52 |
sapier |
do you have any performance values? :-) |
| 21:53 |
Menche |
or, to make a quick 1x1 pack, "mogrify -resize 1x1! *.png" |
| 21:53 |
Menche |
for colors that make sense |
| 21:53 |
sapier |
no with 722 in minetest ;-) |
| 21:53 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't want to delete the actual images |
| 21:54 |
khonkhortisan |
how would I get these so-called performance values? |
| 21:54 |
Uberi |
I want 2x2 textures! |
| 21:54 |
Menche |
or, to make a quick 1x1 pack, "mogrify -resize 2x2! *.png" |
| 21:54 |
Menche |
ack, didn't mean to copy that entire message over |
| 21:54 |
sapier |
sorry may be I got you wrong ... are you trying to create a 1 px texture pack? |
| 21:55 |
khonkhortisan |
or, to make a quick 2x2 pack, "mogrify -resize 1x1! *.png" |
| 21:55 |
Menche |
he's trying to make the game generate dummy textures |
| 21:55 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm trying to use lua to generate a 1px texture pack |
| 21:55 |
Menche |
= random solid colors |
| 21:55 |
Menche |
that right? |
| 21:55 |
khonkhortisan |
I have it making random colors, now I want it to take the texture into account for what color it is. |
| 21:56 |
Menche |
oh, having the game generate the 1x1 textures on startup from another pack? |
| 21:56 |
fgr |
Vanessa? |
| 21:56 |
sapier |
ok I see ... forget about performance this is uncritical |
| 21:56 |
khonkhortisan |
from the game and all mods, every image that's actually used. |
| 21:57 |
Uberi |
go for an AoS-esque look :) |
| 21:57 |
* Menche |
actually sorta likes the smoothness of 1x1 packs |
| 21:57 |
fgr |
is VanessaE or PilzAdam online? |
| 21:57 |
khonkhortisan |
I do a deepcopy on registered nodes and items, and it freezes the terminal long enough for me to see it |
| 21:58 |
sapier |
I doubt you can copy any userdefined structure |
| 22:00 |
khonkhortisan |
Should I care about images that don't follow the convention modname_image_name.png? |
| 22:01 |
Menche |
crack_anylength.png will be scaled down anyway |
| 22:01 |
Menche |
weildhand, do you want a blocky hand like that? |
| 22:01 |
Menche |
not sure what scaling the skyboxes would do |
| 22:02 |
Menche |
would probably make sun[rises/sets] weird |
| 22:03 |
PilzAdam |
fgr, yes |
| 22:03 |
fgr |
oh hi |
| 22:03 |
fgr |
one question |
| 22:03 |
fgr |
how does the public server list work in your windows release? |
| 22:04 |
fgr |
hence i mss a update button ;-) |
| 22:04 |
Kacey |
wtf is this?!?!?! http://ompldr.org/vaTFtOQ/screenshot_30776306.png |
| 22:04 |
khonkhortisan |
it's the aftermath |
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Kacey |
the lava will not flow to the water |
| 22:06 |
Menche |
put a block there to make it update |
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Kacey |
i have |
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fgr |
i mean how does the function (# Automaticaly report to masterserver #server_announce = 0) work in particular --- does it take a while for updating or will the master server collect in realtime? |
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khonkhortisan |
VanessaE, did you find out how to copy files^? |
| 22:14 |
khonkhortisan |
*files? |
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Kacey |
http://memebase.cheezburger.com/artoftrolling |
| 22:24 |
khonkhortisan |
the ferret thing was on the tv more than once already |
| 22:24 |
Doyousketch2 |
how would you use lua to generate textures? |
| 22:26 |
Doyousketch2 |
I was thinking about that earlier. maybe it wouldn't be so tough at that amll a size |
| 22:27 |
Doyousketch2 |
you know, I saw some great game demos made with procedural textures that had extremely small file sizes to begin with |
| 22:27 |
Doyousketch2 |
'cuz it's all generated when you start up the game |
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Doyousketch2 |
you might look into that khonk |
| 22:29 |
khonkhortisan |
I redefine all the nodes, changing tiles and inventory_image, then go look through all the modpaths for the images they use, copy all those images to my mod's /textures, then shrink them all. |
| 22:29 |
khonkhortisan |
That's how I'd do it |
| 22:31 |
Doyousketch2 |
on the fly, or you're saying batch-file it? |
| 22:32 |
khonkhortisan |
I'd do it on first run, then whenever my textures/ directory got deleted. |
| 22:32 |
khonkhortisan |
Not sure how I'm actually going to move and resize the images. |
| 22:33 |
Doyousketch2 |
oh. found a couple smooth batch plug-ins for GIMP that work well enough for that |
| 22:33 |
khonkhortisan |
But then I'd depend on gimp |
| 22:34 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: yeah. https://github.com/VanessaE/moretrees/blob/master/init.lua#L21 |
| 22:34 |
NotReallyNick |
It looks like someone called me while I slept, but I can't see it in the log. Did someone need me? |
| 22:34 |
khonkhortisan |
haha io.input |
| 22:35 |
VanessaE |
that's how I ended up doing it, once I understood what they meant in the PiL. |
| 22:35 |
khonkhortisan |
That's happened to me too, I was highlighted, but happened to be on the same channel |
| 22:37 |
Doyousketch2 |
I suppose, but you might be able to do a similar thing, just by calling the libPNG or libJPEG library |
| 22:38 |
VanessaE |
in my case I was asleep :) |
| 22:38 |
khonkhortisan |
Can xchat beep when I'm highlighted? |
| 22:39 |
Doyousketch2 |
the one was called BIMP - http://www.alessandrofrancesconi.it/projects/bimp/ - and the other is DBP - http://members.ozemail.com.au/~hodsond/dbp.html |
| 22:39 |
Doyousketch2 |
might be able to pull apart their code if you need to |
| 22:39 |
Doyousketch2 |
yeah, there's a setting to turn on beebs |
| 22:39 |
Doyousketch2 |
beeps. sorry dyslexic. I flip b's and p's all the time |
| 22:39 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: Settings -> Preferences -> Sound -> Channel Msg Highlight I would guess. |
| 22:40 |
VanessaE |
connect that to a sound file and it'll probably work, I don't use it myself |
| 22:40 |
VanessaE |
(I don't use any sounds in IRC in fact) |
| 22:40 |
khonkhortisan |
they're all empty for me |
| 22:40 |
VanessaE |
browse to a suitable sound file :) |
| 22:41 |
* khonkhortisan |
looks for an xchat soundpack |
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khonkhortisan |
it works! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1525080 close xchat, extract to ~/.xchat2/ allow it to overwrite your other sound.conf |
| 22:48 |
khonkhortisan |
highlight me |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: fix objects colliding with its own collision boxes 6e4fdf37ba 2013-04-09T14:16:13-07:00 http://git.io/XQRukg |
| 22:49 |
mauvebic |
i hate the new gmail - can you recommend something? |
| 22:52 |
NotReallyNick |
The old Gmail. I think it's still available. |
| 22:52 |
mauvebic |
how do i switch? i got lost in their help section lol |
| 22:52 |
mauvebic |
worse than navigating a casino lol |
| 22:53 |
NotReallyNick |
I forget how I switched back. SOrry. |
| 22:54 |
khonkhortisan |
VanessaE, did you forget an io.close()? |
| 22:55 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CAn22TiVV0&feature=endscreen&NR=1 |
| 22:56 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: no, you don't use io.close if the io.open failed. |
| 22:56 |
khonkhortisan |
HAHAHAHA http://postimg.org/image/khzdycp1t/ |
| 22:56 |
VanessaE |
so if it == nil then the open failed, so there's no close to execute. |
| 22:57 |
khonkhortisan |
I only did io.input, io.output, io.write, and io.close |
| 22:57 |
VanessaE |
as for closing the io.input/output calls, I don't see a need, as that code is only executed at startup :-) |
| 22:57 |
VanessaE |
(translation: too lazy ;) ) |
| 22:58 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm running it once-per-image, so I got the too many open files thing |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
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Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGytW_C6hR8 |
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VanessaE |
bb |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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