| Time |
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| 00:05 |
khonkhortisan |
I can't seem to get anything on the digiline lcd |
| 00:05 |
kaeza |
wow... IRC mod is being used more lately |
| 00:06 |
kaeza |
helped me find some nasty bugs |
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| 00:13 |
khonkhortisan |
luaC's print adds quotes around what is printed. Manually adding quotes adds escape chars: var = "hello" print(var): "hello" print('"'..var..'"'): "\"hello\"" |
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| 00:30 |
Kacey |
khonkhortisan, want a demonstration of lcds? |
| 00:30 |
khonkhortisan |
YES |
| 00:30 |
Kacey |
join mah server |
| 00:30 |
khonkhortisan |
I can't get either the lcd or rtc to respond |
| 00:31 |
khonkhortisan |
where is it again? |
| 00:31 |
Kacey |
67.162.156.91 port 30000 |
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| 00:44 |
sapier1 |
hello, is there already something like a fractions mod? |
| 00:44 |
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| 00:44 |
rarkenin |
Fractions? Or factions? |
| 00:44 |
sapier |
-r |
| 00:44 |
kaeza |
fractions? |
| 00:44 |
us_0gb |
Fractions are better. |
| 00:45 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 00:45 |
us_0gb |
Bye. |
| 00:45 |
sapier |
:-) still what I wanna do is make guard mobs defend some place against "unwanted" or "evil" ppl |
| 00:45 |
sapier |
therefore I need a way to decide who is bad and who not |
| 00:46 |
us_0gb |
Windows users: bad. Everyone else: good. There's a nice dividing line for you. |
| 00:47 |
VanessaE |
I wouldn't go quite that far :) |
| 00:47 |
sapier |
I assume there's nothing like factions/guild support? |
| 00:47 |
us_0gb |
I know, it's the operating system that is bad, not the user. |
| 00:49 |
Kacey |
hey us_0gb i am a windows user |
| 00:49 |
us_0gb |
I like that PilzAdam.shutdown() thing. I'd love to be able to have it say "0gb.us, away!" when I leave. |
| 00:49 |
sapier |
windows os isn't that bad its design is quite progressive ... it's just often configured in a very bad way :-) |
| 00:49 |
us_0gb |
My condolences, Kacey. The first step is to admit that Windows is a problem. |
| 00:50 |
Kacey |
it isnt |
| 00:50 |
Kacey |
linux can dostuff windows cant, but windows can also do stuff linux cant |
| 00:50 |
sapier |
having seen what can be done to linux (ubuntu) ... I don't even think windows is that bad |
| 00:50 |
us_0gb |
Windows security is almost non-existent, and Microsoft breaks almost every standard, both in Windows and everything else. That's no just a bad default configuration. |
| 00:51 |
sapier |
but ubuntu yelling all your searches out to amazon is better ;-) |
| 00:51 |
kaeza |
ORLY? |
| 00:51 |
sapier |
I doubt linux would be any better if it'd been the way in focus of attackers windows is |
| 00:51 |
us_0gb |
What can Windows do that Linux can't? Don't tell me software, that's caused by the fact that Windows is popular for no good reason. |
| 00:52 |
Kacey |
hi ShadowNinja |
| 00:52 |
kaeza |
us_0gb, Windows is popular because it was user-friendly from the start |
| 00:52 |
us_0gb |
Linus security is better, it's not a matter of being less of a target. The less of a target excuse is a myth. |
| 00:52 |
sapier |
it's able to move a file from screen 1 to screen 2 on a 3 screen environment ... which isn't possible with any linux for about 2 years now |
| 00:53 |
us_0gb |
Windows is not very user friendly. |
| 00:53 |
rarkenin |
Just imagine then vast server farms humming with Linux. Small market share? |
| 00:53 |
ShadowNinja |
hi Kacey |
| 00:53 |
us_0gb |
Okay. I guess Windows has one advantage then, if you have multiple screens. |
| 00:53 |
rarkenin |
And yeah, its UI is slightly counter-intuitive. In 1995, users were confused about the fact that shutting down required clicking on a button labeled "start" |
| 00:53 |
sapier |
and windows 3d support is way better ;-) |
| 00:54 |
rarkenin |
No, I use Ubuntu with 4 monitors, and Blender. |
| 00:54 |
rarkenin |
And I prefer it to Windows/ |
| 00:54 |
kaeza |
brb |
| 00:54 |
us_0gb |
3D support is due to software, which is due to popularity. |
| 00:54 |
sapier |
ubuntu is crap |
| 00:54 |
Kacey |
i used to use xubuntu |
| 00:54 |
us_0gb |
Ubuntu's default interface is crap, but Ubuntu isn't. |
| 00:54 |
sapier |
it doesn't matter for what reason 3d support is better only the fact it is is relevant |
| 00:55 |
us_0gb |
No, it's not, as without Windows, it wouldn't be an issue. |
| 00:55 |
Exio |
ubuntu is crap, versus any real distro |
| 00:55 |
us_0gb |
As people migrate (which is happening ever so slowly) it will become less and less an issue. |
| 00:55 |
Exio |
if you want a distro what doesn't change every release just because "the new thing is more cool" |
| 00:56 |
sapier |
even with kubuntu I haven't been able to get minetest working with latest ubuntu version that's been the final reason for dropping ubuntu |
| 00:56 |
us_0gb |
Windows is crap compared to ANYTHING. |
| 00:56 |
rarkenin |
It's harder to use Blender on a mac, though, since it doesn't have a true three-button mouse. |
| 00:56 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xu95Nh_Nl0 pon pon, way way way~ |
| 00:56 |
Tecan |
(1xu95Nh_Nl0) "PONPONPON (English Cover)ã€JubyPhonic P】" by "JubyPhonic P" is "Music" - Length: 0:04:03 |
| 00:56 |
us_0gb |
You can plug a three button mouse into a Mac, and all three buttons will work. |
| 00:57 |
sapier |
are we talking about windows 7 or 8? 8 is crap too yes |
| 00:57 |
NekoGloop |
how is 8 crap? |
| 00:57 |
rarkenin |
Yeah. But you have to go look for a 3-button mouse first. |
| 00:57 |
us_0gb |
All Windows. 8 included. |
| 00:57 |
rarkenin |
I ended up getting one with 3 extra buttons, mapped to Ctl, Alt, and Shift. |
| 00:57 |
sapier |
guys I do have 3 screens none of them touch I don't wanna use a touch interface |
| 00:58 |
us_0gb |
You have to go look for a three button mouse for Windows or Linux too. |
| 00:58 |
sapier |
I was already pissed about ubuntu using unity which is a single screen interface too |
| 00:58 |
us_0gb |
The interface is interchangable. As I said, Ubuntu's default interface is crap. Ubuntu itself is not. |
| 00:59 |
VanessaE |
fwiw, xubuntu 12.04 works great for minetest for me |
| 00:59 |
sapier |
ubuntu without interface isn't much more than debian |
| 00:59 |
us_0gb |
Then it's the same as Debian. THat doesn't make it crap. |
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| 00:59 |
sapier |
don't switch to 12.10 ;-) |
| 01:00 |
us_0gb |
I didn't. I'm on 12.04, because it's the "super stable" version. |
| 01:00 |
Exio |
LTS doesn't mean stable |
| 01:00 |
Exio |
means more updates |
| 01:00 |
us_0gb |
And I'm in the process of installing Debian itself. |
| 01:00 |
us_0gb |
Okay. My bad. |
| 01:00 |
sapier |
12.04 was already bad for my setup 12.10 is unusable |
| 01:01 |
NekoGloop |
sapier, you need not use a touch interface... get start menu 8 |
| 01:01 |
sapier |
if I don't want to use ubuntu interface there's no benefit of using ubuntu instead of debian |
| 01:02 |
us_0gb |
Then don't. |
| 01:02 |
NekoGloop |
inb4 "windows 8 with start button == windows 7" |
| 01:02 |
Exio |
nah |
| 01:02 |
sapier |
yes of course I can switch back and forward from touch interface(clicked by mouse) and remains of desktop ... not a very good interface imho |
| 01:02 |
Exio |
windows 8 is like windows ME with unity |
| 01:02 |
Exio |
:D |
| 01:02 |
Kacey |
lol i kinda like windows 8 |
| 01:03 |
us_0gb |
I'm not saying Ubuntu is somehow better than Debian, or something. |
| 01:03 |
Exio |
gentoo/debian > *, dwm/e17/kde > * [imo] |
| 01:03 |
NekoGloop |
Start menu 8 gives windows 8 a start button (basically making it usable without ever entering the Metro interface) |
| 01:03 |
sapier |
none of the last 4 ubuntu versions have been stable nor did they have any improovements |
| 01:04 |
NekoGloop |
Start menu 8 also does not replace metro, you can still access metro. |
| 01:04 |
Exio |
it was good in the 2008, early 2009 |
| 01:04 |
rarkenin |
Ubuntu Server+Minimal Xorg+Minimal window manager. |
| 01:04 |
Exio |
why ubuntu then |
| 01:04 |
us_0gb |
My CD drive burnt another invalid disc .... |
| 01:04 |
sapier |
12.04 did occasionaly freeze with xbmc and another 3d app running ... 12.10 wasn't even able to run any 3d app without crashing or behaving very strange :) |
| 01:04 |
rarkenin |
Package manager, stubbornness, and inertia. |
| 01:05 |
rarkenin |
I dodn;t have 3D problems. I reguarly play Minetest and render large scenes in Blender for people. Yes, I AM using my GPUs. |
| 01:05 |
rarkenin |
*didn't |
| 01:05 |
sapier |
so you're lucky the drivers work for your gpu |
| 01:05 |
Exio |
package manager? emerge is better, and for installing the mininal xorg+wm you'd need to do stuff like in any distro |
| 01:06 |
Exio |
i need(ed) to install the wireless driver for my laptop, always :P |
| 01:06 |
sapier |
exio I wanna install a package not WAIT forever ;-) |
| 01:06 |
Exio |
and using the closed nvidia driver here, too |
| 01:06 |
rarkenin |
Well, it's a set of 4 nVidia 660ti's, 2 separate SLI pairs. |
| 01:06 |
rarkenin |
Or whatever can pass for that. |
| 01:06 |
Exio |
sapier: most of packages compile very fast, in my netbook |
| 01:06 |
* us_0gb |
fetches 40 CDs |
| 01:06 |
sapier |
I've a mixed mode setup onboard graphics with a gtx260 |
| 01:06 |
Exio |
and for stuff like xorg, or so, i keep the netbook one night |
| 01:07 |
sapier |
one night <-> 1h .... |
| 01:07 |
Exio |
the time here is 50% downloading stuff, 50% compiling for xorg |
| 01:07 |
Exio |
i need to keep it the whole night anyway :P |
| 01:07 |
Exio |
and it is a netbook... |
| 01:07 |
sapier |
I once built linux from scratch for years ... until xserver split to thousands of packages |
| 01:08 |
sapier |
that's been the time I decided not to compile whole system anymore |
| 01:08 |
Exio |
my desktop compiles between 5 to 60 times faster compiling |
| 01:08 |
Exio |
emerge makes the thing easy and fast, even if it may look as a PAIN |
| 01:08 |
Exio |
it is a tradeoff |
| 01:08 |
Exio |
very customized system with the stuff what you exactly want, rolling release and stable |
| 01:08 |
sapier |
I do have about 10 virtual machines that would have to compile same thing ... not quite effective |
| 01:09 |
Exio |
with a very powerful package manager |
| 01:09 |
Exio |
sapier: you would not compile it |
| 01:09 |
Exio |
more than one time if you do the things right |
| 01:09 |
sapier |
so how to move result from one machine to another? |
| 01:10 |
Exio |
when i need to do that i just make binary packages of them |
| 01:10 |
Exio |
and then share it |
| 01:10 |
sapier |
way to much work |
| 01:10 |
Exio |
what cpu do you have? |
| 01:10 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Fix build on Linux with older glibcs 963f912040 2013-03-29T18:09:13-07:00 http://git.io/TURlmA |
| 01:11 |
sapier |
phenom x4 |
| 01:12 |
Exio |
i'd say the same performance |
| 01:12 |
Exio |
bulldozer x6 6100 |
| 01:12 |
Exio |
at 3.3ghz actually, didn't overclock the cpu |
| 01:13 |
sapier |
still 1 night is way to much imho |
| 01:13 |
Exio |
it is a netbook |
| 01:13 |
sapier |
and I was tired of finding out why this driver isn't working with that glibc and those gcc version |
| 01:13 |
Exio |
(where i did the stuff) |
| 01:13 |
Exio |
the thing what would take a night here would be download X11 |
| 01:15 |
sapier |
I don't think so download would be quite fast but if I need to setup a new machine I want it done quick not a 2 day project |
| 01:15 |
NekoGloop |
http://youtu.be/1xu95Nh_Nl0?t=2m6s wut am i doing |
| 01:15 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Fix build on Linux with some glibcs 6cf581e360 2013-03-29T18:12:14-07:00 http://git.io/j-c0mQ |
| 01:15 |
Exio |
sapier: it was 2 days in a netbook with a 256kbps network |
| 01:15 |
sapier |
and obviously adding new packages requires lots of time |
| 01:15 |
Exio |
with kde3 and compiled too |
| 01:15 |
Exio |
in 2 days, you think the rest |
| 01:15 |
sapier |
I remember how long firefox took to compile ... I doubt it's faster |
| 01:16 |
Exio |
firefox-bin |
| 01:16 |
Exio |
those packages what are useless to compile have their own -bin package |
| 01:16 |
Exio |
in the official tree |
| 01:16 |
Exio |
like libreoffice, firefox |
| 01:16 |
sapier |
so no benefit of compiling if you skip those applications used most |
| 01:16 |
Exio |
(i use those in the netbook, because i don't want to be an entire week compiling it) |
| 01:17 |
Exio |
i use libreoffice rarely and firefox is actually pretty fast in the netbook, and for what i have read compiling it doesn't make it "faster" and so |
| 01:17 |
sapier |
and firefox really gains lot of performance by compiled for exact architectire |
| 01:17 |
Exio |
does it? |
| 01:17 |
Exio |
hm |
| 01:17 |
sapier |
firefox is fast? ... not quite |
| 01:17 |
NekoGloop |
WAT |
| 01:17 |
Exio |
versus chrome in a low-ram compute |
| 01:17 |
Exio |
r |
| 01:18 |
Exio |
if you see chrome fast when you don't have 4 or 8 gb of ram |
| 01:18 |
sapier |
at least 10 years ago it was like overclocking by 100% |
| 01:18 |
Exio |
? |
| 01:18 |
sapier |
I want a fast version of eclipse ;-) |
| 01:18 |
Exio |
what do you mean with "it was like overclocking by 100%"? |
| 01:19 |
sapier |
800mhz vs 1.6 ghz cpu ;-) |
| 01:19 |
NekoGloop |
Exio, Yes. On my 1GB computer, which was also running an MC server at the time which sucks up about 500MB ram |
| 01:19 |
Exio |
NekoGloop: what the heck |
| 01:19 |
NekoGloop |
=w= |
| 01:19 |
NekoGloop |
I'm just a badass like that i guess |
| 01:19 |
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| 01:20 |
Exio |
sapier: my amd duron (2001~900mhz) works very well versus my intel atom outside graphic stuff |
| 01:20 |
sapier |
by the way eclipse is another usecase where windows is way better than linux ... windows version isn't fast either but you don't have to restart it every half an hour because of running slow motion only |
| 01:20 |
Exio |
and it is not overclocked! the only thing what are faster in the intel atoms |
| 01:20 |
Exio |
are things what need/use sse2, and so on |
| 01:21 |
Exio |
s/atoms/atom/ |
| 01:21 |
sapier |
as I said it's comfort only I simply don't wanna wait for a package to compile when I want to USE it |
| 01:21 |
Exio |
it is a tradeoff |
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| 01:22 |
Exio |
some people wants the general stuff working, other people wants the stuff in the way they "want" it |
| 01:22 |
Exio |
i don't see why i should have installed pulseaudio depends when i don't use them |
| 01:22 |
Exio |
or why i should have some ati glx "patch" when i don't have any ati gpu |
| 01:22 |
sapier |
you know i "want" it working and "instantly" ;-) |
| 01:23 |
Exio |
what is your internet speed? |
| 01:23 |
sapier |
6mbit downstream |
| 01:23 |
Exio |
256kbps, as i said before, is my main network |
| 01:23 |
kaeza |
us_0gb, use Win98SE. It's the most stable version to thisday IMHO |
| 01:23 |
sapier |
that's a very strong reason of course |
| 01:24 |
Exio |
i already need to wait between 4 to 7 hours for downloading the packages |
| 01:24 |
sapier |
w2k was very stable too |
| 01:24 |
Exio |
maybe 2 hours if nobody uses it |
| 01:26 |
sapier |
I used w2k I don't remember it to crash very often ... at least it was way better than any of the dos based windows systems befroe |
| 01:27 |
us_0gb |
kaeza, Why use an outdated version of Windows, when I can use an up-to-date version of non-Windows, and it will run better? |
| 01:27 |
rarkenin |
Always remember flying! :) https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tensionnot.com%2Fjokes%2Foperating_systems_and_airlines&ei=jj9WUbTKOcSwyQHXy4HgDA&usg=AFQjCNFTuTJQay8cCd0b476YOn79Uo99Sw&sig2=5qPRY6PX2aLStjMKbD7NIg&bvm=bv.44442042,d.aWc |
| 01:28 |
rarkenin |
Oops, Google obusficated the link. |
| 01:54 |
hmmmm |
yo dawg i heard you liked templates |
| 01:54 |
hmmmm |
so i made std::map<std::string, std::vector<std::pair<content_t, int>>> m_item_groups; |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
o.O |
| 01:55 |
Exio |
that seems too functional |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
and this, folks, is why I just don't "get" C++ most of the time. |
| 01:56 |
NekoGloop |
I'm sure you got that C++ joke though. |
| 01:56 |
* Exio |
throws objects at VanessaE |
| 01:56 |
hmmmm |
it's a mapping of item group names to lists of pairings of content_ts to their group values |
| 01:56 |
kaeza |
that's why I don't use C++ at all |
| 01:56 |
kaeza |
readability of C++ sources can be horrible |
| 01:56 |
Exio |
C++ |
| 01:57 |
hmmmm |
haha, no, i'm going to put in a typedef :) |
| 01:57 |
NekoGloop |
C++ looks like it's a decorative sword |
| 01:57 |
Exio |
wth? |
| 01:57 |
NekoGloop |
or some odd kind of katar |
| 01:58 |
kaeza |
I prefer old-fashioned structs and pointers of C :) |
| 01:58 |
hmmmm |
it looks like it's full of STDs |
| 01:58 |
VanessaE |
well then get vaccinated before you catch something :D |
| 01:58 |
Exio |
function pointers kaeza function pointers! |
| 01:59 |
NekoGloop |
Heh, yes, hmmmm, it is a tad of a rusty blade. |
| 01:59 |
Exio |
i'm rewriting an old project what i wrote without following any standard |
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| 01:59 |
Exio |
C is awesome |
| 01:59 |
* kaeza |
highfives Exio |
| 02:00 |
sapier |
wait lets skip any type checking and use only void* pointers |
| 02:00 |
NekoGloop |
no |
| 02:00 |
NekoGloop |
let's use only ifs and exits to write the code. |
| 02:01 |
Exio |
that is cobol |
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| 02:01 |
Exio |
sapier: weak typing is awesome in someway |
| 02:01 |
sapier |
problem with c/c++ is that everything is still allwed ... even goto |
| 02:01 |
khonkhortisan |
that's why I couldn't quickly find an if exit |
| 02:01 |
Exio |
C = cute ASM |
| 02:02 |
sapier |
maybe but even skilled programmers sometimes get types wrong and have to wast lots of hours to find the bug |
| 02:02 |
kaeza |
Exio, goto is not bad; it has it's place |
| 02:02 |
khonkhortisan |
its |
| 02:02 |
Exio |
say that to sapier |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: because NekoGloop used them all up :) |
| 02:02 |
sapier |
goto is assembler |
| 02:02 |
Exio |
and yes, sometimes a goto is better than 1337stuff |
| 02:02 |
khonkhortisan |
exit is also basic |
| 02:02 |
* khonkhortisan |
uses the word its' |
| 02:03 |
NekoGloop |
It's elementary, khonkhortisan |
| 02:03 |
khonkhortisan |
the equivalent to break? |
| 02:03 |
sapier |
goto just gets compiler into trouble as it's very difficult to optimize |
| 02:03 |
Exio |
everything what gets abussed is bad |
| 02:03 |
sapier |
you force compiler to generate code YOU think is good .. most time compiler knows better than you do |
| 02:03 |
Exio |
and goto is the thing what is gets abussed "commonly" |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
ah gone are the days when you'd write things in assembly and optimize by hand |
| 02:04 |
kaeza |
sapier, "optimize only when it actually matters" -- Michael Abrash |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
(of course, gone are the days when that was needed, too) |
| 02:04 |
khonkhortisan |
Does anyone use switch case without break? |
| 02:04 |
sapier |
believe me compiler code optimization is very good |
| 02:05 |
kaeza |
sapier, I doubt UI or startup/cleanup code needs any kind of optimization |
| 02:05 |
sapier |
you need to do work to disable optimization for thise cases where you don't need the benefit so its double waste of time ;-) |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
sapier: I'm sure it is, don't get me wrong. |
| 02:06 |
kaeza |
khonkhortisan, I do |
| 02:06 |
kaeza |
re: use case without break |
| 02:06 |
Exio |
sapier: GOTO alone is not bad |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
but I grew up in an era when you had to shave off every cycle you could, and shave off every byte you could, anywhere you could |
| 02:06 |
Exio |
if you abuse it, is makes the program hard to optimize and so on |
| 02:06 |
Exio |
if not, it doesn't |
| 02:07 |
khonkhortisan |
I wrote a chess game in ti-basic (for a calculator) and used goto only because the screen was really small and I didn't want to restructure my code |
| 02:07 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE, ironic that now your code is horribad :3 |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
hey now, there's nothing wrong with my code |
| 02:07 |
NekoGloop |
:3 |
| 02:07 |
sapier |
occassions where goto might be at least as good as any other solutions are very rare while situtations where goto is abused are much more common |
| 02:07 |
Exio |
the use of goto is: |
| 02:07 |
Exio |
99.99% useless |
| 02:07 |
kaeza |
sapier, then blame the programmer, not the keyword :) |
| 02:07 |
khonkhortisan |
When I write if elseif else end, I put four spaces in front of the if :P |
| 02:08 |
Exio |
kaeza +1 |
| 02:09 |
Exio |
in any case, lemme search for something |
| 02:09 |
sapier |
I don't have time to write kaeza exio nekogloop hmmm vanessae .... don't programm that case with this solution .... "Don't use goto" is just short and true for almost all cases |
| 02:09 |
khonkhortisan |
How I indent https://github.com/khonkhortisan/rubiks/blob/master/init.lua#L315 |
| 02:10 |
mauvebic |
goto? i thought that was settled a month ago :p |
| 02:10 |
sapier |
me to but someone started it again ;-) |
| 02:11 |
mauvebic |
last time i used goto i was 7 or 8 lol |
| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
I was 6 |
| 02:11 |
sapier |
the worst goto I've seen tha last weeks was a goto in a switch case jumping to the end of the switch case .... |
| 02:11 |
khonkhortisan |
I was older than that |
| 02:11 |
kaeza |
sapier, this is a case where goto makes sense: https://github.com/kaeza/cosmorpg/blob/master/src/maplib/file.c#L90 |
| 02:11 |
khonkhortisan |
haha |
| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
I also had fixed a printer after the tech guy was stumped |
| 02:12 |
kaeza |
sapier, note: ERROR() calls goto |
| 02:12 |
Exio |
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?GoTo |
| 02:12 |
NekoGloop |
Which either tells you that the techie is an idiot or I was smart. |
| 02:12 |
khonkhortisan |
absolutely no understanding of how a switch case works |
| 02:12 |
mauvebic |
i still remember reading a bunch of books in the 90's that said to avoid gotos (oddly enough, php still added them) |
| 02:12 |
sapier |
this is try catch |
| 02:12 |
khonkhortisan |
Exio, I like the quote at the top |
| 02:13 |
Exio |
hehe |
| 02:16 |
mauvebic |
im not such a fan of php today but back then it was php/perl or asp lol |
| 02:16 |
sapier |
kaeza I know the goto seans to be reasonable in your case but we do have a c++ compiler and can use exceptions ;-) |
| 02:18 |
sapier |
and why are you using TRUE and FALSE? is this code supposed to be compiled c only? |
| 02:18 |
kaeza |
sapier, file.c? |
| 02:19 |
kaeza |
<kaeza> ...I don't use C++ at all |
| 02:19 |
sapier |
ok so you mean yes :-) ... I don't give much to filenames as they are often wrong |
| 02:20 |
sapier |
ok so you're using a language 30 years old ... ok upon that time goto was a reasonable ;-) |
| 02:20 |
mauvebic |
i dont see where age comes into it |
| 02:20 |
sapier |
even gcc is c++ only today ;-) |
| 02:20 |
kaeza |
gcc enforces that a C source file has .c extension; C++ source files must have cpp or cxx iirc |
| 02:20 |
mauvebic |
assembly wasnt invented yesterday either |
| 02:21 |
kaeza |
gcc supports some features of C++ in C as an extension :) |
| 02:21 |
mauvebic |
and ive seen C & Java fall in and out a favour a few times lol |
| 02:22 |
sapier |
different versions of compilers do different things ... still minetest is c++ so there's no good reason to give unskilled programmers examples to abuse ... it's always the worst code to be copied as an example ;-) |
| 02:24 |
kaeza |
(of which I use none)https://github.com/kaeza/cosmorpg/blob/master/src/maplib/file.c#L90 |
| 02:25 |
kaeza |
fuck |
| 02:25 |
kaeza |
keyboard fail |
| 02:25 |
sapier |
wow I just managed to compile freeorion within linux ... a task I wasn't able to complete for years now :-) |
| 02:25 |
kaeza |
sapier we were discussing the use of goto in general, not only in MT :) |
| 02:26 |
kaeza |
anyway, fair enough. goto is bad practice in C++ |
| 02:26 |
kaeza |
(you have exceptions for that) |
| 02:26 |
khonkhortisan |
it looks a little like naev |
| 02:26 |
sapier |
I'm talking mainly with c++ in focus ... you can't be right if you talk in general as there's always an exception to any rule |
| 02:27 |
sapier |
c++/minetest |
| 02:27 |
sapier |
there might be even reasons to use scheme instead of c++ in some cases ;-) |
| 02:27 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xu95Nh_Nl0 |
| 02:27 |
NekoGloop |
LETS PON ALL DAY, FUCK YEAH |
| 02:29 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop, no |
| 02:29 |
kaeza |
this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZJfJM_Htvk :3 |
| 02:29 |
Tecan |
(gZJfJM_Htvk) "10 Hours - HEYYEYAAEYAAAEYAEYAA (with giveaway!)Full Version WHATS UP Whats going on LYRICS He Man" by "Patrick Adair" is "Comedy" - Length: 10:00:01 |
| 02:29 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
| 02:29 |
NekoGloop |
dat bot |
| 02:29 |
kaeza |
thanks Tecan >:( |
| 02:32 |
kaeza |
sapier, saying that goto is bad is "talking in general" :) |
| 02:33 |
sapier |
no it's spoken within minetest channel so there's a context around it ;-P |
| 02:33 |
Exio |
you said c/c++ |
| 02:33 |
Exio |
when you talk-ed about goto and started this |
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sapier |
yes that everything is still allowed ;-) as c++ is most recent "development branch" of this language family I expected the goto problem being interpreted to CURRENT language not some decade old versions ;-) |
| 02:37 |
sapier |
assembler is still valid and it's used for some special cases still I wouldn't recommend rewriting minetest in assembler ;-) |
| 02:37 |
NekoGloop |
YES |
| 02:37 |
NekoGloop |
DO EET |
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| 02:38 |
Kacey |
VanessaE, are you around? |
| 02:38 |
Exio |
goto is not something old |
| 02:38 |
VanessaE |
what's up? |
| 02:38 |
Exio |
it is something for a low-level language, what C is |
| 02:38 |
Exio |
C is ASM with a cute syntax and easy to read |
| 02:39 |
NekoGloop |
C++ is a rusty spiky sword |
| 02:39 |
Exio |
(versus ASM) |
| 02:39 |
Kacey |
i am wanting (and probably going to) make an obsidian pipe and a diamond pipe |
| 02:39 |
sapier |
c++ is "just" syntax cleanup to C + preprocessor :-) |
| 02:39 |
Kacey |
and maybe stone and cobble |
| 02:40 |
VanessaE |
purpose of same? |
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kaeza |
sapier, as I said, goto has it's uses. You wouldn't remove data types like 'short' because they are inefficient or hcakcy or whatever |
| 02:40 |
khonkhortisan |
(its) |
| 02:40 |
kaeza |
hacky* |
| 02:40 |
sapier |
short is already removed for most architectures |
| 02:41 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: what would be the purpose? |
| 02:41 |
Kacey |
the stone and cobble pipes wouldnt connect to eachother, but rather to other pipes |
| 02:41 |
Kacey |
(such as stone wouldnt connect to cobble and vice versa) |
| 02:41 |
Kacey |
and diamond would be like mese tube and accelerator tube |
| 02:42 |
Kacey |
and obsidian would be sand and accelerator |
| 02:42 |
VanessaE |
but what would be the purpose? |
| 02:42 |
Kacey |
for more complex sorting systems |
| 02:43 |
Kacey |
(gold filter is an idea i had but i am not going to make it) |
| 02:44 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE, super sorting systems |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
wel afaict the sorting system is pretty well setup already |
| 02:45 |
NekoGloop |
if we make like mining quarries and shit then we'll want better pipes |
| 02:45 |
NekoGloop |
Though we'd need a filter, Kacey. |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
one thing that is needed is tubes that conduct mesecons signals. |
| 02:45 |
Kacey |
will do^ |
| 02:45 |
NekoGloop |
mese tubes |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: there already is a sorting tube, color-coded. |
| 02:45 |
Kacey |
that filter was a rediculous idea |
| 02:45 |
Kacey |
ridiculous* |
| 02:46 |
NekoGloop |
lol you guys are copying buildcraft so hard |
| 02:46 |
Kacey |
no my filter idea would kill buildcraft |
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VanessaE |
firstly, I am not "copying" anything - I wrote pipeworks with no prior knowledge of minecraft stuff. Secondly, Nore added most of the functional tube stuff, not me. |
| 02:47 |
Kacey |
gold (or maybe diamond because of what it does) filters would completely empty the adjacent inventory (and maybe have a setting of which items to pull) |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
and third, what's wrong with porting MC stuff over to MT if it makes sense to do so? |
| 02:47 |
khonkhortisan |
There's no way to empty a chest using pipes? |
| 02:47 |
NekoGloop |
Buildcraft is FOSS. You're fine >.> |
| 02:48 |
Kacey |
there is a way to do it, just not with only 1 mesecon signal |
| 02:48 |
NekoGloop |
khonkhortisan, prolly not because they're being stoopid :3 |
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VanessaE |
Kacey: make a set of mesecon tubes first. |
| 02:49 |
khonkhortisan |
ooh finite liquid in the settings |
| 02:49 |
VanessaE |
that's what we need most right now |
| 02:49 |
Kacey |
alright |
| 02:49 |
khonkhortisan |
mesecon tubes for mining machines |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
the other stuff, we'll talk about more later. |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: yes. RealBadAngel suggested it a while back, but I wasn't most up to coding at the tim,e |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
time* |
| 02:50 |
khonkhortisan |
should just be a node definition |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: more than one - 64 of them. |
| 02:51 |
Kacey |
Mesecon Pneumatic Tube Segment is already a node... |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
eh? when was that added? |
| 02:51 |
khonkhortisan |
I expect the new facedir to be contagious |
| 02:51 |
* VanessaE |
looks at the commit log |
| 02:52 |
Kacey |
oops detector is what i was thinking of lol |
| 02:52 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
| 02:52 |
VanessaE |
yeah, not the same thing :-) |
| 02:52 |
VanessaE |
these just need to be plain conductors |
| 02:53 |
Kacey |
im working on it |
| 02:54 |
khonkhortisan |
Why do rtc and lcd (digilines) assume the channel is a string? |
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Kacey |
this is going to be a project |
| 02:59 |
Kacey |
might just make another file for mesecons.lua i guess |
| 02:59 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 02:59 |
khonkhortisan |
ick, luaC text box isn't monospace |
| 02:59 |
VanessaE |
remember it has to be soft dependency |
| 03:00 |
Kacey |
? |
| 03:00 |
Kacey |
how do i make a soft depend? |
| 03:00 |
Exio |
optional dependency |
| 03:00 |
VanessaE |
it can't depend on mesecons, it needs to detect it. |
| 03:00 |
khonkhortisan |
Technic should work without mesecons, mesecons should work without technic |
| 03:00 |
khonkhortisan |
Or pipeworks, rather. |
| 03:01 |
VanessaE |
if mesecons doesn't exist, it must not try to define the mesecons-dependent items |
| 03:01 |
VanessaE |
otherwise it'll crash |
| 03:01 |
khonkhortisan |
But isn't mesecons compatibility done with a table now? |
| 03:01 |
Kacey |
ooh so do what VanessaE did with the "if io.open..." stuff? |
| 03:01 |
VanessaE |
yeah basically. |
| 03:01 |
VanessaE |
you have to check for the presence of the mod in a directory you know for a fact minetest will load |
| 03:02 |
NekoGloop |
In a discussion about the wierdness of java filenames: Java Upper Intelligence Central Executable. |
| 03:02 |
NekoGloop |
It's a .juice file! :D |
| 03:02 |
VanessaE |
something like: if (minetest.get_modpath("mesecons")) then ...define mesecons related stuff... end |
| 03:02 |
VanessaE |
(it'll return nil if there's no such modpath) |
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VanessaE |
that's probably the wrong syntax/function name but you get the point. |
| 03:03 |
Kacey |
im just copying the technic one |
| 03:03 |
VanessaE |
show me the code you're using |
| 03:04 |
Kacey |
if io.open(minetest.get_modpath("pipeworks").."/../mesecons/init.lua", "r") == nil then |
| 03:04 |
Kacey |
just one line so far... |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
that'll work too |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
but really, you don't need to do the i/o open stuff, you should be able to get away with the get_modpath() call |
| 03:05 |
Kacey |
no wait we need to find mesecons... |
| 03:05 |
Kacey |
so if it is not nil |
| 03:05 |
Kacey |
what do i put? |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
if minetest.get_modpath("mesecons") then ...define mesecons related stuff... end |
| 03:07 |
Kacey |
k |
| 03:09 |
Kacey |
mesecon = 2 |
| 03:09 |
Kacey |
what does that mean? |
| 03:10 |
khonkhortisan |
I think that's an old group |
| 03:11 |
Kacey |
have you tested the detector tubes with the new mesecon api? |
| 03:13 |
VanessaE |
I've never used them myself, but both pipeworks and mesecons are up-to-date on my server |
| 03:13 |
VanessaE |
and so far it hasn't crashed from that :-) |
| 03:15 |
Kacey |
no dice... |
| 03:15 |
Kacey |
the detector tube does not send a signal |
| 03:16 |
Kacey |
nvm |
| 03:17 |
VanessaE |
http://ifunny.mobi/#UwFuVnQt |
| 03:17 |
VanessaE |
oh THAT is just cheating! |
| 03:18 |
NekoGloop |
No, that's how you're supposed to do it |
| 03:19 |
Kacey |
GET A FORKLIFT!!!!!!! |
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VanessaE |
Kacey: more like a heavy-duty crane |
| 03:19 |
khonkhortisan |
I feel like it should high-center on the back |
| 03:19 |
NekoGloop |
http://ifunny.mobi/#VA2jfi8J |
| 03:19 |
VanessaE |
no forklift I've ever driven could load that |
| 03:20 |
khonkhortisan |
I see countries don't respect copyright |
| 03:24 |
NekoGloop |
http://ifunny.mobi/#QciWRA9J Pizza roulette |
| 03:25 |
VanessaE |
One does not simply assert copyright on iFunny. |
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NekoGloop |
http://ifunny.mobi/#D6dTvZcR |
| 03:26 |
khonkhortisan |
I call the two last slices |
| 03:26 |
kaeza |
http://ifunny.mobi/#uR3BW5Dp |
| 03:29 |
Kacey |
http://pastebin.com/Fne6GCku |
| 03:29 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't get the joke about the separator |
| 03:30 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, http://ifunny.mobi/#HHWKab8J |
| 03:30 |
khonkhortisan |
that's about the right size :) |
| 03:30 |
khonkhortisan |
oh. Volume 1. |
| 03:30 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: I'd need to see the code in question, I can't tell from that |
| 03:30 |
Kacey |
http://pastebin.com/5B6SyRpR |
| 03:31 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: :P |
| 03:31 |
VanessaE |
line 47. |
| 03:31 |
VanessaE |
you've got too many closing } |
| 03:31 |
VanessaE |
maybe move the last }) to just after line 48 |
| 03:32 |
VanessaE |
I think |
| 03:32 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 03:33 |
NekoGloop |
http://ifunny.mobi/#KzHaKd8J <3 |
| 03:33 |
khonkhortisan |
You can put a function right into the node definition? |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
awww |
| 03:33 |
khonkhortisan |
register_tube is right between on_construct and groups |
| 03:33 |
NekoGloop |
Also, that image is incorrect |
| 03:33 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE, it should say "purrfect match <3" Typos everywhere. |
| 03:35 |
NekoGloop |
http://ifunny.mobi/#0maVQzzn |
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khonkhortisan |
mid-race |
| 03:39 |
Kacey |
http://pastebin.com/BbmhZ2Bq |
| 03:39 |
khonkhortisan |
The greater than 0 needs a newline |
| 03:39 |
Kacey |
? |
| 03:40 |
khonkhortisan |
clust_num_oresmust be greater than 0========== ERROR FROM LUA =========== |
| 03:40 |
Kacey |
that is just a random fail in the debug |
| 03:45 |
Kacey |
https://github.com/Kaceyproductions/pipeworks here is what i have so far |
| 03:45 |
NekoGloop |
http://ifunny.mobi/#nxnOAJyp mindfuck |
| 03:46 |
VanessaE |
WHOA |
| 03:47 |
VanessaE |
now my brain is bleeding |
| 03:47 |
NekoGloop |
http://ifunny.mobi/#Bi9Y3Pqh holy shit... |
| 03:47 |
VanessaE |
now THAT guy has too much time on his hands |
| 03:49 |
NekoGloop |
http://ifunny.mobi/#YQIOub8J |
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khonkhortisan |
I haven't seen that optical illusion before, but there are others that move |
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Guest92802 |
oops, it didn't put my name in. 1 sec |
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khonkhortisan |
Eli? |
| 03:53 |
Guest92802 |
yeah, Doyousketch2 |
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NekoGloop |
http://ifunny.mobi/#D92C7j8J |
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khonkhortisan |
You joined as Eli then changed to Guest |
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Guest92802 |
I didn't change it |
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Guest92802 |
must be buggy on this XChat version or something |
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khonkhortisan |
that last one has already been posted here |
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khonkhortisan |
images.lmgtfy.com/?q=moving+optical+illusion |
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Sketch2 |
k, think it's doing ok now |
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NekoGloop |
http://ifunny.mobi/#ME8mIw6P |
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Sketch2 |
pondering this compile thing. gonna look at the forum for a few and see how they do it for windows and Macs |
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khonkhortisan |
Candidate for default_water_animated.png: http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/5639/2020/1600/7340/murasakiimojpg.jpg |
| 04:16 |
VanessaE |
whoa |
| 04:16 |
kaeza |
khonkhortisan, lol |
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kaeza |
http://ifunny.mobi/#D7AYqKUV |
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VanessaE |
I'm starting to run out of stuff to see on iFunny |
| 04:28 |
VanessaE |
(I've gone through most of it it seems like) |
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khonkhortisan |
3d rice http://cdn.dottech.org/media/2013/01/optical_illusion_rotating.jpg |
| 04:30 |
kaeza |
related: http://ifunny.mobi/#X1ovBmgq |
| 04:31 |
NekoGloop |
dat texture pack |
| 04:31 |
NekoGloop |
dem shaders |
| 04:31 |
NekoGloop |
so realistic |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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VanessaE |
^^^^ what HD could look like if textures could tile over several blocks at once :-) |
| 04:32 |
VanessaE |
HDX* |
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Kacey |
? |
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VanessaE |
Kacey: http://ifunny.mobi/#X1ovBmgq |
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kaeza |
WIN http://ifunny.mobi/#XpXG6tYs |
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VanessaE |
WIN! |
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khonkhortisan |
clueless teacher :) |
| 04:38 |
tripod |
clueLESS teacher! |
| 04:38 |
VanessaE |
haha |
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khonkhortisan |
? |
| 04:39 |
VanessaE |
if the kid was REALLY brave he would have drawn it really nicely, colored it in, etc :-) |
| 04:39 |
NekoGloop |
no |
| 04:39 |
NekoGloop |
if he was brave, he'd have taped a screenshot to the paper |
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khonkhortisan |
but that gives the teacher a reason to believe it's not just a random doodle |
| 04:40 |
VanessaE |
no, we're all wrong |
| 04:40 |
NekoGloop |
Of course. |
| 04:40 |
NekoGloop |
it's the answer, khon, not just a random doodle |
| 04:41 |
VanessaE |
if he were REALLY brave, he'd have printed a QR code leading to a youtube video of the act of crafting a door :-) |
| 04:41 |
NekoGloop |
nonono |
| 04:41 |
NekoGloop |
he would have DREW the QR code |
| 04:42 |
VanessaE |
hah |
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kaeza |
If he were brave, he would print a gif showing how to craft a door |
| 04:46 |
kaeza |
:trollface: |
| 04:46 |
NekoGloop |
he'd invent the gif printer |
| 04:47 |
NekoGloop |
or, if you don't wanna be technical, the harry potter paper |
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khonkhortisan |
I tried to learn qr, but I stopped at the version number and error checking |
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Sketch2 |
wish my brain had a reset button |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
well, it kinda does.. |
| 05:01 |
Sketch2 |
it's like, you wade through all of this crud trying to troubleshoot |
| 05:02 |
VanessaE |
but it tends to be expensive, and you lose too much of your history in the process |
| 05:02 |
VanessaE |
I wish we had neuralyzers. |
| 05:02 |
Sketch2 |
and when you finally get past one spot of difficulty, you feel to bogged down to proceed |
| 05:03 |
Sketch2 |
guess sleep kinda helps, but you lose the momentum |
| 05:03 |
Sketch2 |
it's just hard to keep trudging on after your mind is so full of what you WERE trying to solve |
| 05:05 |
kaeza |
Am I'm doing something wrong here? http://pastebin.com/aN1VRNLS <-- The button[...] is shown as a label instead |
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Sketch2 |
kaeza, I'd help if I knew what it went to. what src file does that go into? what button does it tweak? |
| 05:10 |
kaeza |
actually, this is what I get https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202013-03-30%2002%3A09%3A07.jpg |
| 05:10 |
VanessaE |
Foo! |
| 05:10 |
jordan4ibanez |
Finally |
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jordan4ibanez |
I have totally optimized surface generation for random plants or nodes |
| 05:11 |
jordan4ibanez |
with a random percentage |
| 05:11 |
NekoGloop |
Bar! |
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Sketch2 |
I think it's 'cuz you're following your lines with .. |
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kaeza |
Sketch2, that's the concat operator |
| 05:12 |
kaeza |
"Foo".."Bar" == "FooBar" |
| 05:13 |
kaeza |
jordan: remove the -ND part of your license and you'll get everyone's attention :) |
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Sketch2 |
right, sort of a run on sentance |
| 05:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://pastie.org/pastes/7168834/text?key=nkvwsdxmzqs2lzgb623g |
| 05:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
Please try it. |
| 05:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
Tell me what you guys think. |
| 05:14 |
Sketch2 |
but, those are supposed to be seperate items |
| 05:15 |
Sketch2 |
try it without 'em |
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kaeza |
derp... I was missing the 'Label' part of textarea[] |
| 05:16 |
kaeza |
the formspec parser needs some sanity checks I guess |
| 05:17 |
Kacey |
http://ifunny.mobi/#GqzHp8OV |
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jordan4ibanez |
Anyone? |
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Sketch2 |
k, that's cool. it doing what you set out to do now? |
| 05:18 |
Sketch2 |
I clicked it, but browser's bein' stupid |
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NekoGloop |
"herp".."derp" ~= "herpderp" |
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Sketch2 |
wow, so jordan, flowers with thickness? |
| 05:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yes |
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jordan4ibanez |
any node, you can have as many nodes as you want in the table |
| 05:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
even with the percentage up to 100% it still generates very fast |
| 05:22 |
Sketch2 |
it just takes a flat texture and extrudes it in 1 direction? |
| 05:23 |
jordan4ibanez |
What? No, it finds the surface of the map, and generates it upon that surface |
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kaeza |
ok, now to set the metadata of an item... stack.set_metadata is nil |
| 05:23 |
kaeza |
do I use stack.metadata? |
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Sketch2 |
oh, so are they still 2 flat pix turned at a 90* |
| 05:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
Or finds the surface of the node you want it to generate on. If it is not found within the mapchunk, the search is cancelled |
| 05:24 |
NekoGloop |
headphones: THE PART OF YOUR HEAD COVERED BY THEM ITCHES LIKE MAD |
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kaeza |
lol nope *crash* |
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Sketch2 |
k. guess I was thinking something else. that would be cool tho. think the 3D hand does that |
| 05:30 |
kaeza |
success! |
| 05:30 |
kaeza |
I can write into books harharhar |
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Sketch2 |
cool, wanted to do that so we could write notes to other players |
| 05:33 |
kaeza |
here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/bookex.zip |
| 05:33 |
kaeza |
have fun :) |
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Sketch2 |
I'll check it in a min. gonna check some settings on the laptop before I forget. |
| 05:35 |
Sketch2 |
dunno how to set AFK on this thing. - is AFK |
| 05:41 |
VanessaE |
most folks just change their nick |
| 05:41 |
VanessaE |
/nick Sketch|AFK or similar |
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kaeza |
Am I the only one who actually uses /away? |
| 05:59 |
Lynxx |
maybe... |
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khonkhortisan |
I only see /away if I unsquish the userlist |
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Kacey |
alt+a works for me |
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Sketch2 |
k, it's been a good 10 years or so since I've actually chatted up on the IRC, so I'm outta practice |
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Sketch2 |
had to tweak the firewall so my kid can't log in through other PC's |
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Sketch2 |
found out he was hopping on other servers with the laptop |
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Kacey |
im off to bed |
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Sketch2 |
be back in a few. really not diggin' Gnome 3. gonna see if fallback mode is any better |
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Sketch2 |
little bit better, at least I have a task switcher |
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us_0gb |
It seems Debian Empathy is nicer than Ubuntu Empathy. I would have thought the reverse was true. |
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markveidemanis |
whats wrong with this: s.send("PRIVMSG "+"nickserv"+" "+"identify"+" "+user+" "+password+"\n") |
| 07:28 |
VanessaE |
+ |
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VanessaE |
you need .. not + if that's supposed to be Lua |
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kaeza |
python |
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VanessaE |
nevermind whether s.send() is a valid call |
| 07:29 |
markveidemanis |
s = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_STREAM) |
| 07:29 |
VanessaE |
ok in that case, your quotes are nested wrong |
| 07:29 |
VanessaE |
why is nickserv in quotes? |
| 07:29 |
VanessaE |
or rather, why is it quoted separately? |
| 07:30 |
markveidemanis |
Thats the text to send to the IRC server |
| 07:30 |
VanessaE |
and why isn't there a space after "identify"? |
| 07:30 |
VanessaE |
well then write it as s.send("PRIVMSG nickserv identify "+user+" "+password+"\n") |
| 07:30 |
markveidemanis |
s.send("PRIVMSG "+"nickserv"+" identify "+user+" "+password+"\n") |
| 07:30 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 07:30 |
VanessaE |
s.send("PRIVMSG nickserv identify "+user+" "+password+"\n") |
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markveidemanis |
ah, k |
| 07:31 |
VanessaE |
don't requote each individual word |
| 07:31 |
VanessaE |
(and I missed the missing space because of my client's word wrap) |
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markveidemanis |
!part #minetest |
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markveidemanis |
huh? |
| 07:31 |
VanessaE |
nevermind |
| 07:31 |
markveidemanis |
missed missing space lol |
| 07:32 |
markveidemanis |
lol the bot was here all along |
| 07:33 |
kaeza |
s!partaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 07:34 |
VanessaE |
markveidemanis: I believe you were told not to test your bot here |
| 07:34 |
markveidemanis |
i did not test it, it was recording |
| 07:34 |
VanessaE |
you were still testing it by having it in here at all. |
| 07:34 |
markveidemanis |
ok |
| 07:35 |
markveidemanis |
well who wants to test it with me on my channel |
| 07:35 |
VanessaE |
go to a testing IRC channel then |
| 07:38 |
Sketch2 |
us_0gb - yeah, I'm diggin' Debian more than other distros too |
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kaeza |
hello sfan |
| 07:38 |
VanessaE |
you should be diggin' dirt and stone and... other 1m cubed stuff ;) |
| 07:39 |
Sketch2 |
lols. will do plenty of. been contemplating making minetest more universal |
| 07:39 |
Sketch2 |
so others can join in |
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sfan5 |
good mornin' |
| 07:40 |
Sketch2 |
trying to make it into a web-app, but compiling the thing is road-block after road-block |
| 07:40 |
VanessaE |
oh G*d no |
| 07:40 |
VanessaE |
not another web app |
| 07:40 |
Sketch2 |
gettin' further tho |
| 07:40 |
VanessaE |
it already runs on every major platform |
| 07:40 |
markveidemanis |
whats the public server list |
| 07:40 |
markveidemanis |
Can i get my server added? |
| 07:40 |
Sketch2 |
yeah, but this way you can just fire up your Firefox browser and play |
| 07:40 |
VanessaE |
servers.minetest.net |
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kaeza |
VanessaE, what do you have against apps like CastleVi... nevermind :P |
| 07:41 |
Sketch2 |
lols |
| 07:41 |
Sketch2 |
I totally agree on that point, but there's a ton of people out there that do 'em |
| 07:41 |
VanessaE |
My server, clients, max= 0/100, 4 :forever alone: |
| 07:41 |
Sketch2 |
so this way they won't sit there and go "how do I install it??" |
| 07:42 |
Sketch2 |
everyone in here could 'prolly install it in their sleep, but there's a lotta ding-dongs out there that couldn't install notepad if their life depended on it |
| 07:43 |
kaeza |
Sketch2, I made a Windows installer using Inno Setup a while ago, maybe you can do something with the script |
| 07:44 |
kaeza |
but then there are those that complain "no way minetest must be hard to install blah blah blah" |
| 07:44 |
Sketch2 |
I'll look into it. it's posted on the forums under kaeza? |
| 07:44 |
kaeza |
yep |
| 07:44 |
Sketch2 |
k, ty |
| 07:45 |
kaeza |
it needs a bit of modification with the new 'common' stuff |
| 07:45 |
Sketch2 |
I think the problem comes from trying to make the dll's generic |
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sfan5 |
wow! my complete automated building folder is (including all windows packages needed) 257 mb big |
| 07:45 |
Sketch2 |
it's looking for system specific ones |
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Sketch2 |
maybe not so much that the libraries are system-specific, but their locations are |
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markveidemanis |
sfan5 or kaeza |
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sfan5 |
? |
| 08:14 |
markveidemanis |
Help with my bot plz |
| 08:14 |
kaeza |
→#python pls |
| 08:14 |
sfan5 |
tip: read the irc specification and learn python |
| 08:14 |
markveidemanis |
I use if <command> IN message, how do i assign a function to check if the message starts with "!" then make that a command |
| 08:15 |
sfan5 |
→#python pls |
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sfan5 |
and I've already said it: LEARN PYTHON |
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sfan5 |
completly not partly |
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* VanessaE |
wanders off to bed. |
| 08:16 |
VanessaE |
night |
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kaeza |
night V |
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us_0gb |
Good night. |
| 08:21 |
markveidemanis |
us_0gb, plz help to test the bot now, i spent some time coding more commands |
| 08:22 |
markveidemanis |
&& i got it a cloak |
| 08:24 |
us_0gb |
Okay. How do I test? |
| 08:27 |
markveidemanis |
go to #mtmt and i will tell you the commands |
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Sketch2 |
hu8 |
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Sketch2 |
srry, kid spilled pop on keyboard. had cleaned it with simple green, but that messed it up even worse :( |
| 09:00 |
bas080 |
Why does the default not have mods? |
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bas080 |
09:59:56: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ModError: Required common mods "default", "bucket", "creative", "doors", "dye", "fire", "stairs", "vessels", "wool" could not be found. |
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us_0gb |
By the way, that isn't me. |
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markveidemanis |
i dont see why you dont like that nick :D |
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RealBadAngel |
hi all |
| 09:06 |
markveidemanis |
I see the origin |
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us_0gb |
Why I don't like what nick? |
| 09:06 |
us_0gb |
I don't mind it, as long as people know it isn't me. |
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us_0gb |
Anyway, I'm going to bed. Good night. |
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kaeza |
bas080, they were moved to 'common' |
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kaeza |
bas080, https://github.com/minetest/common |
| 09:20 |
bas080 |
Nice! |
| 09:21 |
RealBadAngel |
i finally have solved problems with inventory mods and creative takin over them |
| 09:22 |
RealBadAngel |
solution was as usual for tough problems a single line change ;) |
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markveidemanis |
Who knows pyhton and IRC wel? |
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markveidemanis |
*Well? |
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chynggyz |
hi, I want translate the minetest into kyrgyz language, add please my language here http://translate.minetest.ru/ |
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RealBadAngel |
does kyrgyz == italian? ;) |
| 10:32 |
chynggyz |
i don't know about italian |
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Sketch2 |
Kyrgyzstan |
| 10:33 |
RealBadAngel |
so why have you make it under italian flag? |
| 10:33 |
chynggyz |
where? |
| 10:34 |
RealBadAngel |
link shows italian translation |
| 10:34 |
RealBadAngel |
maybe you should be more precise with linking |
| 10:34 |
chynggyz |
this is main page of translation website |
| 10:35 |
RealBadAngel |
so you just asking if you can do the translation? |
| 10:35 |
RealBadAngel |
if so youre welcome, please do |
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chynggyz |
there is no kyrgyz language, we need to add a new language |
| 10:35 |
RealBadAngel |
ah |
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Sketch2 |
do you think you can do it? |
| 10:36 |
RealBadAngel |
im not sure about the solution |
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RealBadAngel |
i will talk to other devs bout it |
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Sketch2 |
not you, I mean chynggyz |
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chynggyz |
what i can do it? |
| 10:37 |
RealBadAngel |
so, is the language aviable on weblate or not? |
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Sketch2 |
no it's not there. |
| 10:37 |
chynggyz |
no available yet |
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Sketch2 |
As I understand, it's somewhat like Turkish |
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Sketch2 |
my Uncle's Turkish |
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RealBadAngel |
hmmmm, can you pick some very exotic language then |
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RealBadAngel |
and prepare translation with it? |
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IceCraft |
Ho |
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chynggyz |
It's more kazakh than turkish |
| 10:38 |
RealBadAngel |
we could just rename it later |
| 10:38 |
chynggyz |
Borat speak kazakh |
| 10:38 |
Sketch2 |
right |
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chynggyz |
we have only on plural form for counts |
| 10:39 |
Sketch2 |
I think the trick is just to log into that site you posted |
| 10:39 |
Sketch2 |
http://translate.minetest.ru/accounts/register/ |
| 10:39 |
Sketch2 |
then you get to translate it |
| 10:39 |
RealBadAngel |
but anyway i will rise that problem with another devs |
| 10:40 |
chynggyz |
I already registered and logged in |
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chynggyz |
this is our plural forms: nplurals=1; plural=0 |
| 10:40 |
chynggyz |
nplurals=1; plural=0; |
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Sketch2 |
ah, ok. ty chynggyz. if you happen to have anyone else who can help, that would be great. |
| 10:41 |
Sketch2 |
say a friend, or relative with some spare time |
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chynggyz |
our language code ky |
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Jordach |
sfan5, is that your elevator right beside spawn? |
| 10:48 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 10:48 |
Jordach |
nice |
| 10:48 |
Sketch2 |
yeah, so check back after the dev's have a chance to add the language in. may be a day or two. |
| 10:49 |
sfan5 |
if anyone wants the latest minetest: http://5.175.144.3/minetest-latest.zip |
| 10:49 |
sfan5 |
my vserver builds minetest twice a day |
| 10:49 |
Sketch2 |
that's cool man. running on Linux tho |
| 10:51 |
Sketch2 |
'prolly read through your thread on compiling it tho |
| 10:51 |
Sketch2 |
been trying to read up on all the compile notes for the various OS's |
| 10:55 |
RealBadAngel |
sfan5, lately 2 times a day is not enough ;) |
| 10:56 |
sfan5 |
i can still start a manual build |
| 10:56 |
RealBadAngel |
just jokin :) but i like how the game changes now |
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* sfan5 |
too |
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Sketch2 |
well, I'm getting somewhere... |
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Sketch2 |
it just seems that others have run into the same prob's compiling for macs |
| 11:10 |
Sketch2 |
but I doubt there's any way to convert it |
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Sketch2 |
this may disconnect. trying to connect to another server for a moment... |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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sfan5 |
hi pilz |
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PilzAdam |
*Adam |
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Sketch2 |
'prolly not a big deal, but XChat-Gnome is buggy. |
| 11:38 |
Sketch2 |
uninstalled it, and just installed regular Xchat instead |
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kaeza |
/bin/minetest/src/scriptapi.cpp:701: warning: unused variable 'ndef' |
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Jordach |
kaeza, saw that too |
| 11:44 |
kaeza |
and lots of warnings with cguittfont/irrUString.h |
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kaeza |
it's no big deal, but those warnings are annoying sometimes |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: 0gb-us commited to minetest/common: Make vessels placable as nodes bb28112e53 2013-03-30T05:06:37-07:00 http://git.io/SzUpBw |
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kaeza |
LOL http://lolzbook.com/2012/07/license-agreement-trolled/ |
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kaeza |
someday this will happen to one of us |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: RealBadAngel commited to minetest/common: Allow disabling default creative inventory c3747bc7cc 2013-03-30T05:11:28-07:00 http://git.io/2MH_kQ |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: 0gb-us commited to minetest/build: Add "safe" version of bones, players inventory is not added to the bones 3987937f84 2013-03-30T05:17:11-07:00 http://git.io/xsRWfA |
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rubenwardy |
hi all |
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kaeza |
hello ruben |
| 12:33 |
rubenwardy |
http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-03-29#i_2967477 |
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rubenwardy |
<Kacey> The Cloud Background is another thing in common |
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rubenwardy |
WRONG! |
| 12:33 |
rubenwardy |
http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/21/20418/rH1Hl.png |
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rubenwardy |
Although the title is similar |
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rubenwardy |
How ya doing, Kaeza? |
| 12:37 |
kaeza |
fine; you? |
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rubenwardy |
fine as well |
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kaeza |
good to read |
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rubenwardy |
just finished cleaning out my guinea pig's cage. |
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kaeza |
I'm experimenting with web hosting |
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kaeza |
actually, managing a VPS |
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sfan5 |
rubenwardy: fallencraft? |
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Jordach |
kaeza, host1free? |
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kaeza |
yup |
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* sfan5 |
haz one too |
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rubenwardy |
what? |
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Jordach |
ACTUALLY |
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kaeza |
just for experimenting |
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Jordach |
sfan5, idea |
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rubenwardy |
A real guinea pig |
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sfan5 |
rubenwardy: on the screenshot "FallenCraft 0.1 Pre-Release" |
| 12:42 |
rubenwardy |
not my screenshot |
| 12:45 |
rubenwardy |
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=minecraft%20menu&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&biw=1366&bih=614&sei=S95WUYjZBYqy0QXypIDgDQ |
| 12:59 |
Matsetes |
Hi! Is there anyone practice with realtest game? |
| 13:01 |
Jordach |
OH JESUS CHRIST |
| 13:01 |
IceCraft |
Oha |
| 13:01 |
Jordach |
ITS SNOWING CRAZILY |
| 13:01 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, ^^ |
| 13:01 |
rubenwardy |
Not for me :( |
| 13:01 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, ti's but a blizzard |
| 13:01 |
IceCraft |
Yes... Snow... In germany too.... ;( |
| 13:02 |
Jordach |
sfan5 might know of it too, same for PilzAda |
| 13:02 |
PilzAdam |
yep, here too |
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| 13:02 |
Jeija|OFF |
No snow here... (Near Stuttgart) |
| 13:02 |
Jordach |
tip: ctrl + shft + bkspace = closed app |
| 13:03 |
Jeija |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCQ1toUtggE |
| 13:03 |
Tecan |
(zCQ1toUtggE) "Minetest customizer - take 2" by "norrepli" is "Tech" - Length: 0:00:53 |
| 13:04 |
IceCraft |
?? texturepacks |
| 13:04 |
Jordach |
where did tecan come from |
| 13:04 |
IceCraft |
Hm |
| 13:04 |
PilzAdam |
Jeija, why not simple mobs!?! |
| 13:05 |
Jeija |
Because these are just test mods, and also because simple mobs is difficult to handle |
| 13:05 |
Jeija |
It should just go like download the zip and unpack it in the mods folder |
| 13:05 |
Jeija |
However, simple mods wants to be renamed |
| 13:06 |
Jordach |
server online |
| 13:07 |
Jeija |
I'd prefer a mod structure where the git repo contains a depends.txt and the mod, so that the repo can have any name; lots of mods follow this structure, but some don't (like simple mods) |
| 13:07 |
Jeija |
sorry, modpack.txt |
| 13:08 |
PilzAdam |
but modpacks arent displayed as mods in the GUI |
| 13:09 |
Jordach |
sfan5, i just improved my scripty |
| 13:10 |
Jeija |
But renaming folders is also annoying, people get confused by it (in the simple mobs thread some didn't manage to install your mod) |
| 13:10 |
rubenwardy |
PilzAdam: but you can disable the whole mod pack like a mod |
| 13:10 |
Jeija |
It doesn't really make a difference to disable a modpack called simple mobs or an actual mod then |
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| 13:17 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, i wrote a custom bash script that restarts the server, creates a map of the server and makes a backup of the server |
| 13:22 |
rubenwardy |
cool |
| 13:23 |
Jordach |
look here: http://jordachscity.tk/map.png |
| 13:23 |
Jordach |
and find this: http://i.imgur.com/PKhC0Dw.png |
| 13:24 |
rubenwardy |
... |
| 13:24 |
PilzAdam |
found it |
| 13:24 |
Jordach |
i immediately refreshed the older map when it was done |
| 13:26 |
Jordach |
yup, removed it, now look :P |
| 13:27 |
RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, seen my commit in commons? |
| 13:27 |
Jordach |
Creative Commons by chance?? |
| 13:27 |
RealBadAngel |
lol, no |
| 13:27 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, I usually see the commits that I merge, yes |
| 13:28 |
RealBadAngel |
ive commited single liner to allow disabling of creative inventory by other mods |
| 13:28 |
PilzAdam |
bbl |
| 13:29 |
RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, ah youre already merged it, thx |
| 13:31 |
RealBadAngel |
so no more problems with UI and creative |
| 13:31 |
RealBadAngel |
and need for deletion of the second |
| 13:33 |
ShadowNinja |
:-) now just a fire disabling option and I don't need to modify my version of common |
| 13:34 |
ShadowNinja |
won't* |
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Psychotic |
hey |
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| 13:40 |
Jordach |
is VanessaE about?: |
| 13:41 |
Psychotic |
Idk, im waiting for onpon and mito to join |
| 13:41 |
Jordach |
join where? |
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Jordach |
afternoon Zeg9, or Zeggie |
| 13:42 |
Zeg9 |
Hi. Zeg9, please ;) |
| 13:42 |
Jordach |
im tomfooling about |
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| 13:43 |
Psychotic |
IRC |
| 13:44 |
Psychotic |
This chat |
| 13:47 |
rubenwardy |
Jordach: place block on my scratch game works |
| 13:47 |
rubenwardy |
fine tuning physics and map gen now |
| 13:47 |
Jordach |
im converting my spawn area into a beach |
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| 13:48 |
Jordach |
hey Traxie21|Kindle |
| 13:48 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
Hey Jordach |
| 13:48 |
Jordach |
i newly implemented something your server doesnot do |
| 13:48 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
Oh? |
| 13:49 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
my server dosnt do lots of things :P |
| 13:49 |
Jordach |
the server now creates a map and puts it at http://jordachscity.tk/map.png and creates a world backup on /shutdown |
| 13:49 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
Niiice |
| 13:49 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
bash script? |
| 13:49 |
Psychotic |
Quick question, do games have to be unzipped before you install them?' |
| 13:49 |
Jordach |
trade secret :P |
| 13:49 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
6Es |
| 13:49 |
Jordach |
Psychotic, yes |
| 13:49 |
Psychotic |
Cool, thanks |
| 13:50 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
Jordach, beech, I shared mine XD |
| 13:50 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
Probably not that complicated though |
| 13:50 |
kaeza |
'ello Psychotic |
| 13:50 |
Jordach |
you dont have a specialised mapper |
| 13:51 |
Psychotic |
Err, dwarves isnt in the games even though i copied it to the games folder..... |
| 13:51 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
Psychotic, did you create a bew map? |
| 13:51 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
*new |
| 13:51 |
Psychotic |
Err, ill make one, but doesnt it have to be the gamemode itself? |
| 13:52 |
Jordach |
Psychotic, existing maps cannot change their gamemode |
| 13:52 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
No, each world can use one of the games installed |
| 13:52 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
you cant change it |
| 13:53 |
Psychotic |
i know, dwarves isnt in the game selection menu, i have, survival, minimal development test minetest, and build, no dwarves to be seen |
| 13:53 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
strange |
| 13:53 |
Psychotic |
Its in the games folder, should it be in mods? |
| 13:53 |
kaeza |
Psychotic, see if there's a 'dwarves' folder in 'games' |
| 13:53 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
can you post the foler path to game.conf? |
| 13:53 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
it should be |
| 13:53 |
kaeza |
andif it contains a 'game.conf' file |
| 13:54 |
kaeza |
aww...ninja'd |
| 13:54 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
MTDIR\games\dwarves\game.conf |
| 13:54 |
Psychotic |
i use windows 8, and dwarves_game does indeed have a game.conf |
| 13:54 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
Whats the directory path? |
| 13:55 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
lol, everything simple always goes wrong for new people </murphy'slaw> |
| 13:56 |
Psychotic |
C:/Users/DonovanPritchard/downloads/dwarves/games/dwarves_game |
| 13:56 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
I have 3 versions of MT all on a SD card |
| 13:56 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
erm |
| 13:57 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
wheres minetest.exe? |
| 13:57 |
Psychotic |
in the bin folder |
| 13:57 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
whats the full path to minetest.exe? |
| 13:58 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
brb |
| 13:58 |
RealBadAngel |
your game path /bin |
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| 13:59 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
cya all, bbl |
| 13:59 |
Psychotic |
C:/Users/DonovanPritchard/downloads/minetest-0.4.5-8809d9e5-diamonds-win32/bin/minetest .exe |
| 14:00 |
rarkenin |
The dwarves should be in C:/Users/DonovanPritchard/downloads/minetest-0.4.5-8809d9e5-diamonds-win32/games/dwarves |
| 14:01 |
Psychotic |
It is, i can screepcap it for you to prove it |
| 14:01 |
Psychotic |
screencap |
| 14:01 |
rarkenin |
No, it's OK. |
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kaeza |
Jordach, I haz meh own serveh! |
| 14:02 |
rarkenin |
Specs? |
| 14:02 |
Jordach |
rarkenin, same as mine |
| 14:02 |
rarkenin |
Ah. |
| 14:03 |
Psychotic |
err, what should i do now? |
| 14:03 |
kaeza |
I'll maybe upload my world later |
| 14:03 |
kaeza |
or just leave it as-is for the lulz |
| 14:04 |
rarkenin |
Are you sure you aren't sticking the game into one installlation of Minetest, but running another? |
| 14:04 |
* Sketch2 |
has been compiling for like 12 hrs straight |
| 14:04 |
* rarkenin |
has been rendering Blender stuff for 48 hours. |
| 14:05 |
kaeza |
hardcore survival with hunger, thirst, drowning, mobs, etc |
| 14:05 |
* Jordach |
has been watching porn for 200 hours |
| 14:05 |
Psychotic |
Yeah, when i downloaded minetest last night, i didnt do anything, i played vanilla for a bit, and thats all the stuff i did to it, and i only have one install, 0.4.5 |
| 14:05 |
Sketch2 |
yeah, been a long time since I rendered 3D stuff |
| 14:05 |
rarkenin |
Ah, I see. |
| 14:06 |
rarkenin |
Let's see here. Right now, I'm rendering a scene in 1080p with maybe 10000 verts, ambient occlusion, subsurface scattering, and slightly diffure mirroring. |
| 14:06 |
rarkenin |
Actually a pretty long animation. |
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rarkenin |
1000 frames or so. |
| 14:06 |
Psychotic |
Erm, anything else i can do to make it work? |
| 14:07 |
rarkenin |
I honestly don't knoe. |
| 14:07 |
rarkenin |
*know |
| 14:07 |
Psychotic |
AGGGHHHHH |
| 14:07 |
rarkenin |
Sorry. |
| 14:07 |
Sketch2 |
used to render stuff in Caligari trueSpace |
| 14:08 |
Psychotic |
STUPID TJHING WONT WORK |
| 14:08 |
rarkenin |
My GPUs are burning right now. |
| 14:08 |
Sketch2 |
read the Blender manual, but never really sat down with it 'cuz I was always too busy |
| 14:08 |
kaeza |
Psychotic, keep calm and re-check all steps |
| 14:09 |
kaeza |
it's not hard once you get it |
| 14:09 |
rarkenin |
Blender is fun to operate. I actually desgn less than I render, as I do a ton of renders for friends. |
| 14:10 |
rarkenin |
Someone wanted me to rerender a segment of "Tears of Steel" with max settings for some reason. |
| 14:10 |
Psychotic |
i installed it to the games folder, checked the minetest game itself, no dwarves, i was told to put it in games, so i did, checked the filepath to make sure its correct, and now it still isnt working, easy modding my ass. |
| 14:10 |
rubenwardy |
Jordach: physics done |
| 14:10 |
Jordach |
nice |
| 14:11 |
rubenwardy |
The best bit is that is it not by color detection, but by reading what block is where. |
| 14:11 |
Psychotic |
Nope. Still nothing. |
| 14:12 |
kaeza |
can you post the full path to game.conf? |
| 14:12 |
Sketch2 |
can't recall if I have any recent computer graphics posteed on the web, but I got some real old ones here - http://madgrin.deviantart.com/gallery/ |
| 14:13 |
kaeza |
it's weird that it does not work, unless Mito messed up the package somehow |
| 14:13 |
rarkenin |
Sketch2: Awesome. |
| 14:14 |
Psychotic |
C:/Users/DonovanPritchard/downloads/minetest-0.4.5-8809d9e5-diamonds-win32/games/dwarves/games/dwarves_game/game.conf |
| 14:15 |
kaeza |
AHA |
| 14:15 |
Psychotic |
? |
| 14:15 |
kaeza |
move C:/Users/DonovanPritchard/downloads/minetest-0.4.5-8809d9e5-diamonds-win32/games/dwarves/games/dwarves_game to C:/Users/DonovanPritchard/downloads/minetest-0.4.5-8809d9e5-diamonds-win32/games/ |
| 14:16 |
* Sketch2 |
is AFK |
| 14:16 |
kaeza |
Mito has a weird way of packaging games |
| 14:16 |
Psychotic |
dwarves is in games folder, but ill try, you mean dwarves_game folder itself? |
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kaeza |
yep |
| 14:16 |
Psychotic |
I'll tell you if it works |
| 14:16 |
kaeza |
the game scans for immediate subdriectories searching for 'game.conf' files |
| 14:17 |
Psychotic |
DUN DUN DUUUUUN IT WORKS!!!! |
| 14:17 |
kaeza |
good :) |
| 14:17 |
STHGOM |
wo-hoooo!!!! |
| 14:17 |
* STHGOM |
dances a jig |
| 14:18 |
kaeza |
when installing games you must find the folder that has 'game.conf' and move that folder directly to games/ |
| 14:18 |
Psychotic |
I connected to mitos server, and its saying waiting content..... |
| 14:19 |
STHGOM |
thats nice |
| 14:19 |
rarkenin |
The server might not have a sufficient internet connection, It's REALLY laggy for me. |
| 14:19 |
kaeza |
just wait until it downloads textures, sounds, etc |
| 14:20 |
kaeza |
there's a problems with recent versions (after adding TTF font support) in which the progress meter is not shown |
| 14:20 |
rarkenin |
My personal builds don't have that issue. |
| 14:20 |
kaeza |
what OS do you use? |
| 14:21 |
rarkenin |
Linux. |
| 14:21 |
kaeza |
I use Ubuntu 12.04 |
| 14:21 |
rarkenin |
But I did windows builds with minor tweaks for jojoa1997. The problem also didn't exist there. |
| 14:21 |
kaeza |
compiling with Irrlicht 1.7.2 IIRC |
| 14:23 |
rarkenin |
1.6.2 for me, if I am not wrong. |
| 14:23 |
Jordach |
rarkenin, youre out of date |
| 14:23 |
rarkenin |
Let me check. |
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rarkenin |
I am using the Windows buildbot for Jojoa. I just have libirrlicht-dev and whatever dependencies for native compilation. |
| 14:25 |
Psychotic |
any good servers that run dwarves? or good survival servers in general if there are no dwarves servers? |
| 14:27 |
Psychotic |
Derp, minetest crashed after i tried connecting to mito's server -.- |
| 14:27 |
kaeza |
that happens sometimes when there are too much stuff to download |
| 14:28 |
STHGOM |
jajaja |
| 14:28 |
kaeza |
stuff is cached, so just restart game and re-try |
| 14:28 |
Psychotic |
any good servers that run dwarves? or good survival servers in general if there are no dwarves servers? <---just wanted to aska gain |
| 14:29 |
STHGOM |
haha |
| 14:29 |
STHGOM |
dwarves? |
| 14:29 |
kaeza |
Redcrab's server seems like a good choice for newcomers |
| 14:29 |
Jordach |
yup |
| 14:29 |
Jordach |
what jojoa want exactly rarkenin |
| 14:30 |
rarkenin |
Modified client, fly, fast, noclip, no lava/fall damage. I use the same when moderating 0gb.us:30000. |
| 14:31 |
kaeza |
wat |
| 14:31 |
kaeza |
isn't damage server-side? |
| 14:32 |
rarkenin |
Damage from being punched is. |
| 14:32 |
rarkenin |
Fall/lava damage is computed on the client. |
| 14:32 |
rarkenin |
Spiketraps are server, though. |
| 14:33 |
Jordach |
rarkenin, the new damage system will remove that function entirely |
| 14:33 |
rarkenin |
Let it, then. |
| 14:33 |
rarkenin |
So it will even calculate when players fall? |
| 14:33 |
STHGOM |
byebye |
| 14:33 |
Psychotic |
any good servers? recrabs uses 0.4.4 |
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rubenwardy |
you can use redcrab with 0.4.5 |
| 14:35 |
kaeza |
the only other survival servers I know of are GameBoom and ShadowNinja's |
| 14:35 |
kaeza |
oh, and 0gb.us' |
| 14:36 |
rarkenin |
Speaking of 0gb.us, the moderators got fed up and now can ban. |
| 14:40 |
rubenwardy |
Jordach: Physics, Block placement and digging done. Next: advanced mapgen with biomes |
| 14:42 |
Jordach |
rarkenin, speaking of my creative world; a undercity subway system is being implemented |
| 14:43 |
rarkenin |
What's the address? |
| 14:43 |
IceCraft |
Ups Jordach |
| 14:43 |
Jordach |
!up jordachscity.tk |
| 14:43 |
Jordach |
minetestbot no here |
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Jordach |
* MinetestBot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 14:43 |
IceCraft |
I think i accidentally had a little issue with the water remover in the icean :/ |
| 14:43 |
Jordach |
IceCraft, only use water removers in a air tight area where its removal system cant remove any water outside the structure |
| 14:44 |
IceCraft |
Yeah i see now :/ i thought its like the sponge i n minecraft |
| 14:45 |
Jordach |
there was a sponge mod IIRC |
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Jordach |
anyways, the water is now repairing |
| 14:45 |
IceCraft |
Okay |
| 14:45 |
IceCraft |
Thanks |
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IceCraft |
And im very sorry |
| 14:46 |
Jordach |
thats alright |
| 14:46 |
Jordach |
server has recovered its CPU |
| 14:46 |
Psychotic |
0gb server is laggy as hell |
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Psychotic |
and redcrabs server is outdated, and isnt gameboom having trouble with griefers? |
| 14:46 |
Jordach |
traxie21 has a survival server |
| 14:47 |
Psychotic |
traxie, can i join your server, please/ |
| 14:47 |
Jordach |
she aint here |
| 14:47 |
Jordach |
just join and hope shes there |
| 14:47 |
rarkenin |
Psychotic: Yeah, but Bad_Command made tools to clean up. |
| 14:47 |
Psychotic |
ip? |
| 14:47 |
Jordach |
use the forums |
| 14:47 |
Psychotic |
ok, fine, i looked on the forums and couldnt find the ip for gamebooms server? do you know it? |
| 14:48 |
sfan5 |
!up jordachscity.tk |
| 14:48 |
MinetestBot |
jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.827ms) |
| 14:48 |
Jordach |
rarkenin, is this you on my server |
| 14:48 |
rarkenin |
Yup. |
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Psychotic |
? |
| 14:50 |
sfan5 |
!up jordachscity.tk |
| 14:50 |
MinetestBot |
jordachscity.tk:30000 seems to be down |
| 14:50 |
rarkenin |
The server is up... |
| 14:51 |
sfan5 |
wtf?! |
| 14:51 |
sfan5 |
my internet lags really hard |
| 14:51 |
rarkenin |
Try /ping |
| 14:52 |
Jordach |
i'm getting it too |
| 14:52 |
rarkenin |
I get 0.22 seconds. |
| 14:52 |
Jordach |
* Ping reply from hubbard.freenode.net: 0.01 second(s) |
| 14:52 |
sfan5 |
hm |
| 14:52 |
sfan5 |
!up jordachscity.tk |
| 14:52 |
MinetestBot |
jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.158ms) |
| 14:55 |
sfan5 |
!up jordachscity.tk |
| 14:55 |
MinetestBot |
jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.314ms) |
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Psychotic |
the stupid client keeps telling me my password is invalied even though i know its right! |
| 15:05 |
Psychotic |
nvm |
| 15:05 |
Jordach |
Psychotic, which server are you trying |
| 15:05 |
Psychotic |
every server |
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rarkenin |
Maybe ano0ther username? |
| 15:08 |
Psychotic |
Yeah, its working now.... |
| 15:08 |
markveidemanis |
HI |
| 15:08 |
markveidemanis |
How does loggingbot_ work? |
| 15:11 |
PilzAdam |
markveidemanis, is MasterBot your bot? |
| 15:11 |
markveidemanis |
Maybe |
| 15:11 |
PilzAdam |
bots arent allowed in #minetest-dev |
| 15:12 |
Psychotic |
Skype safe to install? |
| 15:13 |
markveidemanis |
oh, sorry |
| 15:14 |
markveidemanis |
Can someone help me with my bot? |
| 15:14 |
markveidemanis |
http://pastie.org/7181326 ... |
| 15:14 |
markveidemanis |
i have done message.split() |
| 15:14 |
markveidemanis |
when i do a '!join' it crashes because it tries to send the second word AND the third word while i only have 1 word |
| 15:15 |
sfan5 |
learn to use python right |
| 15:15 |
markveidemanis |
aI need to define a function to check the number of words |
| 15:15 |
rarkenin |
Maybe just hack together a try-ecept-finally or whatever it's called. |
| 15:16 |
sfan5 |
there is a clean way to solve that problem, but only people who learned know the solution |
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markveidemanis |
PING Jordach |
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Psychotic |
Skype safe to install, and what version do i get since i use windows 8? |
| 15:21 |
Calinou |
any |
| 15:21 |
Calinou |
as long as it is for windows |
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Psychotic |
What about mumble, is it any good? |
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Calinou |
yes it is |
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markveidemanis |
len(str) !!! |
| 15:39 |
Calinou |
it is made for gaming, while skype is made for family photos talking to each other |
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markveidemanis |
if len(str) < 2: |
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markveidemanis |
None |
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markveidemanis |
Everyone Query masterbot |
| 15:40 |
markveidemanis |
not all at once:P |
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Calinou |
* masterbot :No such nick/channel |
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markveidemanis |
Yeh, it disconnected |
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markveidemanis |
So... whats new with minetest? |
| 15:44 |
Calinou |
cd _VCS/minetest && git log |
| 15:44 |
rubenwardy |
Psychotic: redcrab's server is not that outdated |
| 15:44 |
rubenwardy |
only a month old |
| 15:44 |
rubenwardy |
still works |
| 15:45 |
Calinou |
rubenwardy: its minetest_game is about 6 months old at least :P |
| 15:45 |
Calinou |
no 3D doors |
| 15:45 |
rubenwardy |
before the terrible mese changes |
| 15:45 |
rubenwardy |
and there is 3d doors |
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Calinou |
shit ones :P |
| 15:47 |
markveidemanis |
Anyone want a logger? |
| 15:47 |
markveidemanis |
http://pastie.org/7183904 |
| 15:47 |
markveidemanis |
Feel free to use it |
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* Calinou |
got cancer by opening pastie.org |
| 15:47 |
Calinou |
</bad troll> |
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Psychotic |
Couldnt resolve address for redcrabs server |
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dante123 |
!up minetest.info.tm |
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MinetestBot |
minetest.info.tm:30000 is up (0.384ms) |
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markveidemanis |
us_0gb: i have logging now |
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us_0gb |
Nice. |
| 15:59 |
jordan4ibanez |
local getNode = minetest.env:get_node |
| 15:59 |
jordan4ibanez |
This would speed up parts of your code where you want to get a node because instead of requiring 3 calls it only needs one local call. Local calls in lua are quicker than globals because locals are stored in the register. |
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jordan4ibanez |
is this true? |
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us_0gb|showering |
I don't know if that's true. |
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Psychotic |
Someone told me when you download mumble, you get a server as well, is this true? |
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* Calinou |
facepalms |
| 16:02 |
Calinou |
servers are hosted by users |
| 16:02 |
rarkenin |
No, you need to install the server separately. |
| 16:02 |
Calinou |
but to make one accessible to the internet , you have to forward ports |
| 16:03 |
rarkenin |
A server is just a specialized program running on a computer that does nothing but obsessively process requests. |
| 16:03 |
rarkenin |
Same goes for a Minetest server, in a way. |
| 16:04 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: I got this error with a phenny bot using your minetestbot modules: AttributeError: object has no attribute 'authors' (file "[...]/feedparser.py", line 286, in__getattr__) |
| 16:04 |
Psychotic |
So i can just use the client and call people? Cool. And how easy is it to use? I heard better than Skype. |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
certainly not, it is harder for most people, guess why skype is popular |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
you don't call people, you join a server |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
see mumble as a game, where you have many rooms |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
you join a server, then a room to talk with one or more other people |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
you can also send text chat (in the whole room or to just 1 person) |
| 16:06 |
Psychotic |
Oh, ok, sorry, im new to the open source scene |
| 16:06 |
Calinou |
open source doesn't mean hard to use, it means it will almost always have a different philosophy |
| 16:06 |
Calinou |
by the way, mumble could be as easy to use as skype... skype uses peer to peer basically |
| 16:06 |
Calinou |
and ports are automagically forwarded using UPnP |
| 16:07 |
Calinou |
very few open source software, aside from torrenting software can use UPnP :P |
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rarkenin |
And/or UDP holepunch when UPnP fails. |
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Calinou |
hello security guy |
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kaeza |
jordan4ibanez, nope |
| 16:07 |
jordan4ibanez |
All of my dreams are crushed |
| 16:07 |
kaeza |
you can't have a local get_node |
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* Calinou |
types "man security" in his terminal, returns "50% of them are gentoo users, 20% hypocrites, 30% facebook users" |
| 16:08 |
kaeza |
that's because get_node is a *method*; not a function |
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jordan4ibanez |
I wonder if you can make get_node as a local |
| 16:08 |
kaeza |
well... actually you can |
| 16:08 |
kaeza |
but it's kinda weird |
| 16:08 |
jordan4ibanez |
TELL MEH! |
| 16:09 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: that happens sometimes when github returns invalid data |
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kaeza |
local get_node = minetest.env.get_node; node = get_node(minetest.env, pos) |
| 16:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
Is that faster than the other? |
| 16:09 |
kaeza |
dunno haven't tested |
| 16:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
TIME TO TEST |
| 16:10 |
kaeza |
you can also cache 'minetest.env' locally |
| 16:10 |
kaeza |
I doubt it changes during a single run |
| 16:11 |
kaeza |
but take note that at script load time, 'minetest.env' is nil (it's not constructed yet) |
| 16:11 |
jordan4ibanez |
HA! that actually did make it faster |
| 16:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
it uses a little more ram though |
| 16:14 |
sapier |
if the scriptapi changes are included you'll be able to use minetest.get_node .... the minetest.env: notation is relict of some design error |
| 16:14 |
kaeza |
BTW, writable books! :3 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/bookex.zip |
| 16:15 |
sapier |
calling by :function is call by reference but there'll never be multiple environments within a single game ;) |
| 16:15 |
jordan4ibanez |
Awesome! |
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jordan4ibanez |
Can we have a local set node? |
| 16:15 |
kaeza |
yup |
| 16:15 |
kaeza |
same principles |
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sapier |
but someone needs to test scriptapi changes ... and yes they are fully compatible |
| 16:17 |
kaeza |
set_node(env, pos, node) |
| 16:18 |
sapier |
locals are always faster :-) but as "env" needs to be checked in current implementation there'll be additional improvement with my changeset |
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markveidemanis |
ok it works now |
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markveidemanis |
!part #minetest |
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markveidemanis |
Why do i get 'has quit: changing host'? |
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markveidemanis |
how do i stop that |
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khonkhortisan |
Join the channel after your cloak activates from joining the server |
| 16:55 |
khonkhortisan |
oh, you don't have a cloak. Huh. |
| 16:55 |
khonkhortisan |
Well, you get more control not using webchat |
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markveidemanis |
Its the bot |
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khonkhortisan |
oh :) |
| 16:56 |
markveidemanis |
I set the username, set the nick, identify and join the channel |
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markveidemanis |
In that order |
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khonkhortisan |
There should be more time between joining the server and joining the channel? |
| 16:56 |
markveidemanis |
us_0gb: go to #mtmt, the bot can voice people now :D |
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ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: can you please make the signs in homedecor use infotext? |
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us_0gb |
I agree. The signs that you have to walk up and squint at are hard to use. |
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us_0gb |
Hmm. I should get Minetest installed on this machine. |
| 17:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
wtf |
| 17:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
Why won't this statement break? |
| 17:14 |
NekoGloop |
because it's made of rubber |
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jordan4ibanez |
http://pastie.org/7185920 |
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jordan4ibanez |
Oops: http://pastie.org/pastes/7185920/text |
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jordan4ibanez |
oh wait... |
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jordan4ibanez |
forgot to add in multiple breaks |
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Jordach |
if anyone wants to see me test the pyIRC Client, goto #botgrounds |
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sdzen |
because its made of cloud block of course |
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jordan4ibanez |
can we generate biomes in lua yet? |
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jordan4ibanez |
generate=define |
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PilzAdam |
no |
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jordan4ibanez |
fudge |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: GUI: Make singleplayer default tab, store selected serverlist, show title of serverlist e17ae475cf 2013-03-30T10:34:36-07:00 http://git.io/u-bsNA |
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jordan4ibanez |
\o/ |
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Psychotic |
Onpon, me and mitori (mito) skyped, and he told me due to lag, the lets play for now is gonna have to be delayed |
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onpon4 |
Psychotic: Alright, when are we going to do it? |
| 17:56 |
Psychotic |
mito told me about a server he was gonna get, i can skype him in a week, he told me about a month- 2 months |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Make the textbox for serverlist title wider 1aa50b1362 2013-03-30T10:56:29-07:00 http://git.io/FXqAXQ |
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onpon4 |
Hm... have you tried my server, Psychotic? Connection seems hit-and-miss, I don't know why. |
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rubenwardy |
My scratch game: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/kidomat43/3221469 |
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onpon4 |
Actually, while I'm here, I might as well ask: lots of people seem to be timing out when connecting to my server, but not all of them. Can anyone think of anything to check? |
| 17:59 |
onpon4 |
Port is forwarded properly, and I can't think of anything else to check. Also, I can connect to it perfectly from the same local network. |
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onpon4 |
Psychotic, did you guys try connecting to some public servers? |
| 18:05 |
Psychotic |
Yeah, all of em lagged like hell |
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us_0gb |
If they're ALL lagging, maybe the problem is your connection, not the servers. |
| 18:07 |
rarkenin |
Yeah, but a few of the leading ones DO lag like hell. |
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us_0gb |
True enough. |
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Psychotic |
20mbps time warner connection, best we can get. |
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rarkenin |
I heard Time Warner had issues handling some UDP packets, but that may not apply now, as I heard it maybe 2 yeears ago. |
| 18:15 |
Psychotic |
Its a lot faster than it was, cause i remember twc had major internet issues few years back, as i have used it, but it seems to be a lot faster and more stable |
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Psychotic |
yo |
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sdzen |
the public list is now very very tiny |
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khonkhortisan |
When I go to a non-public server, it only shows up as an ip. I can't add a name to it for whose server it is to keep the ip addresses separate. |
| 18:29 |
Psychotic |
i hope in the future minetest has more lag free servers |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja|Away, ive just seen the orthagonal view of you map |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
BLOODY AMAZING |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
http://67.241.154.164:8080/map/ |
| 18:36 |
Psychotic |
anyone got a lag free survival server? |
| 18:36 |
Jordach |
i got a lag free creative server |
| 18:36 |
Jordach |
^ VanessaE |
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Psychotic |
Creative is fun, but i suck at building |
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khonkhortisan |
the viewing software makes the image more impressive |
| 18:38 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://imgur.com/gallery/h04IaVi |
| 18:43 |
sfan5 |
"It is starting to seem like xyz is losing interest in Minetest, sadly." |
| 18:43 |
sfan5 |
-http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=80079#p80079 |
| 18:45 |
thexyz |
uh oh |
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thexyz |
we're all fucked |
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PilzAdam |
thexyz, can you update weblate? |
| 18:48 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: you mean, push translations? |
| 18:48 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 18:49 |
PilzAdam |
update it so one can translate the new strings |
| 18:49 |
thexyz |
oh, sure |
| 18:50 |
thexyz |
done |
| 18:51 |
thexyz |
um.. did anything change? |
| 18:51 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 18:51 |
sfan5 |
but something should've changed |
| 18:51 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: what new strings are you talking about? |
| 18:52 |
sfan5 |
"finite liquids" is one of them |
| 18:52 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/e17ae475cf8cec3f724bf99f6a52e49a19d99d91#L0R442 |
| 18:52 |
Psychotic |
Hey, anyone know if there is a way to make minetest lag less over log distances? like change code or something? <---i am a total noob |
| 18:52 |
PilzAdam |
and "Sound volume" |
| 18:52 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, I want to update the german translation |
| 18:52 |
* sfan5 |
too |
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PilzAdam |
>:-) |
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sfan5 |
:( |
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thexyz |
meh |
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thexyz |
there are no changes in any .po files |
| 18:55 |
thexyz |
you should run updatepo.sh |
| 18:55 |
thexyz |
then commit, push and ask me to pull |
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PilzAdam |
ok, will do |
| 18:55 |
thexyz |
how else would it update? |
| 18:55 |
thexyz |
wait |
| 18:55 |
thexyz |
i'll commit current translations |
| 18:55 |
thexyz |
*push |
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thexyz |
PilzAdam: ok, done |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: minetest-services commited to minetest/minetest: Merge remote branch 'origin/master' a0566270d9 2013-03-30T11:49:52-07:00 http://git.io/D04HIw |
| 18:57 |
PilzAdam |
done |
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jordan4ibanez |
http://i.qkme.me/3tlgft.jpg |
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PilzAdam |
sfan5, "Endliche Flüssigkeit" wtf |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Update po files 02d8df94a8 2013-03-30T11:57:27-07:00 http://git.io/Eowzng |
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thexyz |
wow, it didn't fuck up anything |
| 19:00 |
thexyz |
i'm surprised |
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PilzAdam |
sfan5, how about "Realistiches Wasser"? |
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jordan4ibanez |
What are you guys updating? |
| 19:01 |
sfan5 |
thats better |
| 19:01 |
sfan5 |
jordan4ibanez: german translation for mientest |
| 19:01 |
sfan5 |
*minetest |
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jordan4ibanez |
Lol, best mistype ever |
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sfan5 |
wtf?! weblate a |
| 19:03 |
sfan5 |
*weblate can't count |
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PilzAdam |
sfan5, aaaaand were 100% again |
| 19:03 |
PilzAdam |
next time you can update it |
| 19:03 |
sfan5 |
ok |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, you about? |
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Teddypig |
Does anyone know when 0.4.6 will be out? |
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Jordach |
Teddypig, some time in the near future |
| 19:29 |
rarkenin |
Oh, soon? Awesome! |
| 19:29 |
Teddypig |
How near? |
| 19:29 |
PilzAdam |
new win build: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547 |
| 19:30 |
rarkenin |
Is this close to the average time for a release cycle? |
| 19:30 |
* sfan5 |
has a win build which is always up to date: http://5.175.144.3/minetest-latest.zip |
| 19:31 |
Teddypig |
sfan5 I have 0.4.5-2318d9 And it is lighning, Is ^this^ one faster, or about the same? |
| 19:32 |
sfan5 |
it should be about the same |
| 19:33 |
Teddypig |
d19* and, any changes, like additions or deletions, because I heared we wont be getting some things with the full release. |
| 19:40 |
RealBadAngel |
Teddypig, <hmmmm> we'll release it on wednesday |
| 19:40 |
Jordach |
NO FUCKIN WAY |
| 19:40 |
Teddypig |
Thank you. |
| 19:41 |
Jordach |
<PilzAdam> hmmmm, when do we want to release 0.4.6? |
| 19:41 |
Jordach |
<hmmmm> we'll release it on wednesday |
| 19:41 |
Teddypig |
LOL Jordach. |
| 19:41 |
Jordach |
there |
| 19:41 |
Teddypig |
Hi ShadowNinja. |
| 19:41 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: that map is weeks old and takes an hour th generate, but the result is cool |
| 19:41 |
ShadowNinja |
hi Teddypig |
| 19:42 |
Jordach |
Teddypig, you can come visit my server if you like |
| 19:42 |
Teddypig |
I might in a while. I'm building something on 0gb.us:30000 |
| 19:42 |
Jordach |
you build infinitely on mine |
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Psychotic |
teddy |
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Psychotic |
how bad is the lag obn 0gbs server? |
| 19:42 |
Teddypig |
Yes? |
| 19:43 |
rarkenin |
Psychotic: Not as bad as usual. |
| 19:43 |
Teddypig |
It's bad but I think it's from anticheat. |
| 19:43 |
* Jordach |
has anticheat turned off at my server |
| 19:43 |
Teddypig |
brb |
| 19:45 |
Teddypig |
back, Jordach, is yours creative? |
| 19:45 |
Jordach |
why yes |
| 19:45 |
Jordach |
http://servers.minetest.net |
| 19:46 |
Teddypig |
See the thing is, is that I kind of like having to mine what I need. I don't know why. |
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ShadowNinja |
hi Jeija |
| 19:48 |
Jeija |
Hi ShadowNinja and everyone else |
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jordan4ibanez |
http://i.imgur.com/Q3cUg29.gif |
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Psychotic |
0gb's server has god awful lag |
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Jordach |
Uberi, stop being really good at mesecons |
| 20:16 |
Uberi |
:P |
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* Jordach |
would have to break your hands |
| 20:17 |
* Uberi |
learns to type with his mind |
| 20:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
That headband that allows you to play games hands free and with your mind |
| 20:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
1.) direct that to mesecons |
| 20:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
2.) hook it up to a huge lcd display |
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Uberi |
build one into the next gen Google Glass |
| 20:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
3.) Have mesecons direct it to the program that handles the headband signals |
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jordan4ibanez |
4.) Play minetest with minetest |
| 20:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
5.) ... |
| 20:21 |
Uberi |
:O |
| 20:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
6.) profit? |
| 20:21 |
Uberi |
what would you even want after step 4 |
| 20:22 |
jordan4ibanez |
Play xonotic with minetest |
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jordan4ibanez |
NO |
| 20:23 |
jordan4ibanez |
play minecraft with minetest with your mind |
| 20:23 |
jordan4ibanez |
OR |
| 20:23 |
jordan4ibanez |
have minetest play minetest |
| 20:24 |
Uberi |
:O |
| 20:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
With the forceload entity, you could make a machine from mesecons, which could send signals to some kind of keypresser, and minetest could play itself |
| 20:24 |
Uberi |
oh yeaaaah |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
Real life mesecons usage: CONTROLLING A PHONE |
| 20:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
and there could be a mod, which get's stuff around the radius of the player, combined with sapier's pathfinding, minetest could be self aware of itself XD |
| 20:27 |
Uberi |
I was supposed to meet nore here 27 mins ago |
| 20:27 |
Uberi |
guess he didn't read the post yet :/ |
| 20:28 |
Jordach |
looks like he stood your date up :P |
| 20:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
Pore Uberi |
| 20:28 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uudmtJ_4wQM |
| 20:28 |
Tecan |
(uudmtJ_4wQM) "ã€é¡éŸ³ãƒªãƒ³ãƒ»ãƒ¬ãƒ³ã€‘ World's End Dance Hall (Rin and Len Kagamine cover)" by "Okiosama" is "Music" - Length: 0:07:05 |
| 20:28 |
NekoGloop |
dat bot |
| 20:28 |
Uberi |
gosh how many bots are there here now |
| 20:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
It's not a bot |
| 20:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
Tecan became self aware yesterday |
| 20:29 |
NekoGloop |
Tecan: Shut the hell up. |
| 20:29 |
Uberi |
aw not again |
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| 20:45 |
Tecan |
hmmm |
| 20:46 |
jordan4ibanez |
gizmokid2005... |
| 20:48 |
sdzen |
see he even uses 3 m's instead of 4 to avoid incuring the wrath of you know who |
| 20:52 |
jordan4ibanez |
hmmmm...good idea |
| 20:52 |
hmmmm |
i agree.. |
| 20:52 |
khonkhortisan |
jordan4ibanez, what are you wondering about? O.o |
| 20:53 |
khonkhortisan |
quoteth the bot |
| 20:53 |
jordan4ibanez |
about hmmmm's name change |
| 20:54 |
jordan4ibanez |
Man, AMP tastes like shit, but it kicks your ass with energy |
| 20:54 |
Jordach |
hmmmm, cant you use kwolekr? |
| 20:54 |
hmmmm |
well |
| 20:54 |
hmmmm |
i could |
| 20:54 |
hmmmm |
but will i is a different question |
| 20:54 |
Jordach |
that means your git name matches your nicl |
| 20:54 |
Jordach |
nick* |
| 20:55 |
hmmmm |
that's my real name, not an irc nick |
| 20:55 |
hmmmm |
hahah |
| 20:55 |
hmmmm |
i am on way more channels than just #minetest you know |
| 21:02 |
Psychotic |
Cant find any decent servers |
| 21:02 |
Psychotic |
game was fun while it lasted |
| 21:05 |
sdzen |
try the forums Psychotic? |
| 21:05 |
sdzen |
or singleplayer? |
| 21:09 |
sfan5 |
this commit hash looks nice: 95ceaaa |
| 21:11 |
hmmmm |
sceaaa |
| 21:12 |
jordan4ibanez |
Lmfao |
| 21:13 |
jordan4ibanez |
Can't find a good server->Leaves game |
| 21:13 |
jordan4ibanez |
Can't imagine if I did that with Rigs of Rods |
| 21:13 |
khonkhortisan |
too shaky->leaves game |
| 21:13 |
NekoGloop |
doesn't use javascript -> preaches for days on end |
| 21:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
Too much cocaine -> Leaves mexico |
| 21:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
Wait: |
| 21:15 |
jordan4ibanez |
Toy rockets -> threatens south korea |
| 21:15 |
onpon4 |
Psychotic, maybe you should create your own server if none of the ones you've found are fitting? |
| 21:16 |
* proller |
preparing hardcore survival with start at 1000+ mountain |
| 21:16 |
Psychotic |
I dont have the time to run my own server. |
| 21:16 |
onpon4 |
You don't need to run it 24/7. |
| 21:16 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yeah just like 12/5 |
| 21:17 |
onpon4 |
Hey, guys, is there any way forwarding both TCP and UDP instead of just UDP can mess things up? |
| 21:17 |
onpon4 |
It doesn't seem to me that this would be the case, but just checking. |
| 21:18 |
khonkhortisan |
I've been on that 1000+ mountain, and walked on air off of it |
| 21:18 |
onpon4 |
It's just really weird that I'm able to connect to my server from the same local network fine, but most other people just time out. |
| 21:19 |
jordan4ibanez |
do you live in some obscure country? |
| 21:19 |
onpon4 |
Unless the United States is obscure, no. |
| 21:19 |
jordan4ibanez |
That's pretty obscure |
| 21:20 |
onpon4 |
Hm, maybe I should move to an unobscure country, like... Ghana! |
| 21:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
the united state of mexico minor outlaying islands under ground hidden base to canada |
| 21:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
That's where I live |
| 21:21 |
onpon4 |
Hm... could an ISP be screwing things up? I'm connected with AT&T. |
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ShadowNinja |
onpon4: I have a lot of timeouts on my server too, not sure why |
| 21:45 |
jordan4ibanez |
it's a bug in this version |
| 21:45 |
jordan4ibanez |
even singleplayer times out a lot for me |
| 21:45 |
VanessaE |
happens quite frequently for my server too |
| 21:45 |
jordan4ibanez |
or fails to emerge player |
| 21:46 |
sdzen |
weird for the first time in a long time I have almost none |
| 21:46 |
jordan4ibanez |
we must make a blood sacrifice of sdzen to fix the bug |
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* Sketch2 |
is terribly sleep deprived |
| 21:47 |
sdzen |
my blood turned black last year |
| 21:47 |
sdzen |
you might upset the gods |
| 21:47 |
jordan4ibanez |
TOO LATE |
| 21:47 |
jordan4ibanez |
I have decided |
| 21:48 |
jordan4ibanez |
bot http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5348 |
| 21:48 |
jordan4ibanez |
can I be a partial mod to make thread or post deletion requests? |
| 21:49 |
VanessaE |
ghandi. |
| 21:49 |
VanessaE |
(gah, can't spell. deleted/banned) |
| 21:49 |
jordan4ibanez |
Ghandi? There is no ghandi. |
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jordan4ibanez |
jordach |
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jordan4ibanez |
jordach |
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sdzen |
oh shite jordach is still on |
| 21:51 |
jordan4ibanez |
oh jordach |
| 21:51 |
sdzen |
might be sleeping |
| 21:51 |
jordan4ibanez |
hey jordach |
| 21:51 |
jordan4ibanez |
jordach |
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jordan4ibanez |
jordach |
| 21:52 |
jordan4ibanez |
I'm going to wake jordach up |
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jordan4ibanez |
jordach |
| 21:52 |
jordan4ibanez |
it's time to wake up jordach |
| 21:56 |
onpon4 |
Ah, that's reassuring. |
| 21:57 |
ShadowNinja |
OldCoder: using sasl now? |
| 21:57 |
Jordach |
jordan4ibanez, THE FUCK |
| 21:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
HAY |
| 21:57 |
onpon4 |
I've also noticed, now that I've died for some reason (I guess I starved just when I logged in...), that there are a lot of people who have been dying near the spawn point. |
| 21:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
THE VPN WASN'T ACTIVATED |
| 21:57 |
OldCoder |
ShadowNinja, yes |
| 21:57 |
OldCoder |
Is it working? |
| 21:57 |
ShadowNinja |
yes :-) |
| 21:57 |
OldCoder |
Thank you |
| 21:58 |
jordan4ibanez |
GO HURT DAH COMPANY |
| 21:58 |
OldCoder |
It was irritating not to be able to autojoin some channels |
| 21:58 |
ShadowNinja |
You're welcome |
| 22:01 |
sfan5 |
lol |
| 22:01 |
sfan5 |
jordan4ibanez> Oh, javabeans? |
| 22:01 |
jordan4ibanez |
Hey man, javabeans taste good. |
| 22:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://upload.maciejkwas.pl/plik5/game.jpg |
| 22:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
WHAT |
| 22:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
THAT is what minetest could look like |
| 22:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
WAT |
| 22:05 |
Psychotic |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itvJybdcYbI <best song ever! *laughs* |
| 22:05 |
Tecan |
(itvJybdcYbI) "What's Up (Hey, What's Going On) [Best Version (mp3)] He-man AMV LMAO!!! (Mp3 link)!" by "YetiFace55" is "Film" - Length: 0:02:07 |
| 22:05 |
Psychotic |
Trololol |
| 22:06 |
Psychotic |
Ive been prankin people with that video all day |
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jordan4ibanez |
It wasn't a prank, we saw the link. :P |
| 22:07 |
Psychotic |
nevertheless, at least i got responses. |
| 22:08 |
jordan4ibanez |
But yeah, if someone could make minetest's main menu like that, holy crap |
| 22:09 |
Psychotic |
Is there any way minetests code could be improved that would make servers less laggy, or is that just the endusers fault? cause me and mitori have the best internets in the area we live in we could get |
| 22:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1825 |
| 22:10 |
sdzen |
http://minetest.org/worlds.html |
| 22:10 |
sdzen |
try these? |
| 22:11 |
Psychotic |
So has that code been implemented yet jordan? because i know minecraft and minetest are different games, but i never have lag issues with minecraft over the same distance, to where mitori lives |
| 22:12 |
jordan4ibanez |
Umm all you have to do is add it to the minetest.conf.... lol |
| 22:13 |
Psychotic |
erm, im not the run that runs the server.... |
| 22:13 |
jordan4ibanez |
then tell the server admin? |
| 22:15 |
Psychotic |
Did. |
| 22:15 |
Psychotic |
Done. |
| 22:21 |
us_0gb |
Minecraft lags way worse than Minetest for me. Or maybe it's just a frame rate issue. Last time I played Minecraft, I still didn't know what the difference was. |
| 22:23 |
us_0gb |
Is the feature freeze already in effect? |
| 22:24 |
rarkenin |
Almost. |
| 22:24 |
us_0gb |
Okay, I still have a little time then. |
| 22:25 |
us_0gb |
I better hurry. |
| 22:25 |
rarkenin |
Hurry to do what> |
| 22:26 |
us_0gb |
I'd like to get bones and give_initiail_stuff moved to common, where we can use them. |
| 22:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
When is the feature freeze? I know I said it should happen, but I didn't think anybody aknowledged it. xD |
| 22:27 |
RealBadAngel |
http://i.imgur.com/WvX7gEk.jpg |
| 22:27 |
us_0gb |
It's a point where new features are not accepted, only bug fixes. |
| 22:27 |
RealBadAngel |
cisoun's background with moving clouds (those shall be fixed with different view angle) |
| 22:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
NO, WHEN is it? |
| 22:28 |
ShadowNinja |
taday or tomorow I think |
| 22:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
That looks REALLY nice |
| 22:29 |
RealBadAngel |
http://cisoun.dyndns.org/minetest.png |
| 22:29 |
RealBadAngel |
image shall be placed in /textures/all/menusplash.png |
| 22:29 |
jordan4ibanez |
I think I can do a little bit better though :P |
| 22:29 |
RealBadAngel |
also there have to be put empty image menuheader.png |
| 22:30 |
RealBadAngel |
jordan4ibanez, so make better one :) |
| 22:30 |
jordan4ibanez |
I am! |
| 22:32 |
ShadowNinja |
RealBadAngel: you can just delete menuheader, it checks it |
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RealBadAngel |
yeah, but im using this in texture pack |
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us_0gb |
Drats. My commit is all messed up. |
| 22:51 |
us_0gb |
Before the feature freeze, someone please add this: https://github.com/minetest/common/pull/17 |
| 22:52 |
Jordach |
<Jordach> hey, i've just spotted irregularities in my server map |
| 22:52 |
Jordach |
<Jordach> http://jordachscity.tk/map.png |
| 22:52 |
Jordach |
<Jordach> go look near the top |
| 22:52 |
Jordach |
<Jordach> repeated dots have been printed |
| 22:55 |
us_0gb |
You mean the no-quite-flat edge? |
| 22:55 |
Jordach |
us_0gb, no, repeated dots at the absolute north |
| 22:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
okay what texture name is the bottom of the main menu? |
| 22:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
footer |
| 22:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
how do I enable the footer? |
| 22:57 |
Jordach |
us_0gb, this bit: http://i.imgur.com/UkS3jCI.png |
| 22:58 |
us_0gb |
Hmm. That is odd. Could it be stumps from a clearcut? |
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Psychotic |
whats a feature freeze? |
| 22:59 |
Psychotic |
Nvm, i remembered |
| 23:00 |
Psychotic |
Sorry bout that. |
| 23:04 |
Jordach |
us_0gb, strange: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-300313-230408.php |
| 23:08 |
us_0gb |
Jordach: I see. Scorch marks. Maybe someone used lava in the area. |
| 23:16 |
hmmmm |
jordach, do you have smooth lighting off? |
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us_0gb |
hmmmm: I see those sort of dark spots with smooth lighting on or off. |
| 23:20 |
us_0gb |
hmmmm: Especially right after lava has cleared. |
| 23:23 |
hmmmm |
hmm |
| 23:25 |
us_0gb |
You forgot two "m"s. |
| 23:25 |
us_0gb |
I wonder, can you ping yourself? Testing: us_0gb |
| 23:26 |
us_0gb |
No. It seems you cannot. |
| 23:36 |
khonkhortisan |
you can ctcp ping yourself, and pm yourself. |
| 23:40 |
khonkhortisan |
Can I make a node not make dig particles? |
| 23:42 |
khonkhortisan |
I also see lava shadows |
| 23:43 |
PilzAdam |
<khonkhortisan> Can I make a node not make dig particles? <- no |
| 23:44 |
us_0gb |
At least you can turn of particle visibility in the client. |
| 23:44 |
us_0gb |
Not a single node solution, but better. |
| 23:45 |
khonkhortisan |
I have a rubiks cube that is placed as one node, then expands, and when I pick it up I get random colors falling from it |
| 23:45 |
khonkhortisan |
but it's a mechanical construction that would break if you dug it to pick it up |
| 23:45 |
us_0gb |
Ah, I see. |
| 23:45 |
RealBadAngel |
http://i.imgur.com/xXhOQBz.jpg |
| 23:45 |
us_0gb |
Steel blocks have the same issue, I imagine. |
| 23:46 |
us_0gb |
Although, I don't make a habit of turning on particles or placing steel blocks, so I can only guess. |
| 23:46 |
Psychotic |
whaqt the actual hell is going on with my client? IT JUST DELETED MY PASSWORD' |
| 23:47 |
us_0gb |
I don't knoe. |
| 23:47 |
khonkhortisan |
minetest doesn't store passwords |
| 23:47 |
Psychotic |
i know that |
| 23:47 |
us_0gb |
My client keeps crashing when I enter a world. |
| 23:47 |
us_0gb |
Psychotic means that he entered the password, and it disappeared. |
| 23:48 |
Psychotic |
and every fucking time i log on, it deletes it |
| 23:48 |
us_0gb |
Wait, you mean between logins? Like, you log in and log out, and the password is gone? |
| 23:48 |
khonkhortisan |
exit to menu? |
| 23:48 |
VanessaE |
us_0gb: that happens to lots of people now |
| 23:49 |
Psychotic |
yep, and it keeps saying invalid password, even though ive used my account before. |
| 23:49 |
Psychotic |
and its starting to royally piss me off. |
| 23:49 |
VanessaE |
Psychotic: maybe the server you're logging into has a broken password fine |
| 23:49 |
VanessaE |
file |
| 23:49 |
PilzAdam |
you need to type your password everytime you connect to a server |
| 23:49 |
khonkhortisan |
RBA, minetest looks boring now that I've seen that image |
| 23:49 |
us_0gb |
VanessaE, what do I do about that? I'm on the stable version, which wasn't having that issue on my other computer. |
| 23:50 |
Psychotic |
I am. ive entered the same password everytime, but now its not letting me |
| 23:50 |
VanessaE |
us_0gb: delete his entry from worlds/yourworld/auth.txt and restart your server. Psychotic: When he does that, log in with your normal password. |
| 23:50 |
us_0gb |
VanessaE, I thought you were saying the crashing happens to a lot of people. |
| 23:50 |
VanessaE |
us_0gb: when he signs in, be sure you grant whatever privs he should have. |
| 23:51 |
VanessaE |
us_0gb: crash on server login does, yes. |
| 23:51 |
RealBadAngel |
khonkhortisan, its cisoun's artwork with some of my suggestions. now im trying to make couple from it and moving clouds |
| 23:51 |
VanessaE |
wait a sec, who is running the faulty server here? |
| 23:51 |
us_0gb |
VanessaE, what do I do about the crash? |
| 23:51 |
khonkhortisan |
it doesn't look right without it now |
| 23:51 |
RealBadAngel |
effect imho is just GREAT |
| 23:51 |
us_0gb |
Psychotic, whos server are you trying to log into? |
| 23:51 |
VanessaE |
about the crash, nothing - no one's stepped forward with a solution :-/ best guess is to turn off all settings, turn off preload item visuals, and try again. |
| 23:52 |
Psychotic |
Mito's server. |
| 23:52 |
us_0gb |
Okay. So I can't reset your password then. Get Mito to do that. |
| 23:52 |
VanessaE |
Psychotic: oh sorry, so mito has to correct your user entry. tell him to just delete it and restart the server, then you can sign in and wait for any pending privs. |
| 23:55 |
us_0gb |
Okay, thanks VanessaE! Now I can at least log in, though my frame count is at one. |
| 23:55 |
VanessaE |
ick |
| 23:55 |
us_0gb |
VanessaE, never mind, now instead of crashing, it froze. |
| 23:55 |
VanessaE |
well that's a start... |
| 23:55 |
Psychotic |
does deleteing the user file also mean my items ill be gone/ |
| 23:55 |
VanessaE |
Psychotic: no |
| 23:56 |
us_0gb |
Yes, but he's not deleting the user file. |
| 23:56 |
VanessaE |
it just means you'll temporarily lose your privs until you sign on and mito re-grants them |
| 23:56 |
VanessaE |
the auth.txt entry I mean |
| 23:56 |
VanessaE |
not your player file. |
| 23:56 |
us_0gb |
xkill, XKILL! |
| 23:57 |
khonkhortisan |
watch xkill |
| 23:58 |
us_0gb |
Minetest froze. I had to do something. |
| 23:58 |
RealBadAngel |
tnt |
| 23:58 |
khonkhortisan |
that'll freeze the computer while it's unfreezing minetest |
| 23:58 |
us_0gb |
TNT won't unfreeze my client. |
| 23:59 |
us_0gb |
!up 0gb.us |
| 23:59 |
us_0gb |
Wrong room? Wrong room. |
| 23:59 |
khonkhortisan |
How off-black do I need to be to see black on it? |
