Time Nick Message 00:00 PilzAdam Taoki, what bout set_bone_position("", {x=0,y=0,z=0}, {x=0,y=0,z=0}) ? 00:00 sokomine a function to change the terrain and place buildings there regardless of weather the area is loaded or not would be really great 00:00 Taoki PilzAdam: That sounds correct. With the object ref too of course 00:00 Uberi definitely 00:01 PilzAdam Taoki, no, what is the right param list for set_bone_position? 00:01 Taoki PilzAdam: Sadly I'm very bad at Lua currently. Only remembered when I actually tested those functions 00:01 sokomine as for carts..hm...if they're unmanned, a master might just calculate where they are and let them appear when players approach...in the default game, there's usually only fast on servers, so your players will be running around and loading lots of areas just to get to those very same places (even though they might prefer beaming if that where available) 00:02 Taoki Position and rotation are vectors though 00:02 Uberi sokomine: not really, the carts must follow the tracks 00:02 Taoki I think {x=0,y=0,z=0} was it 00:05 PilzAdam Taoki, https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/5259321 00:07 Taoki PilzAdam: That looks correct yes 00:10 kaeza hai Dawg 00:10 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Fix parameter list of obj:set_attach() and obj:set_bone_position() a782a88913 2013-03-27T17:09:01-07:00 http://git.io/NvZK9Q 00:13 sokomine the position of the tracks could be calculated once 00:15 jordan4ibanez the /clearobjects command has got to be reworked for item drops only >.< 00:16 jordan4ibanez and then a /killall or /clearmobs command would be fore mobs 00:18 jordan4ibanez I just realized that sapier said my slimes were buggier than his mob api xD 00:24 PilzAdam bye 00:26 Kacey sorry i had to go afk there 00:28 Uberi|Away hey thanks PilzAdam + Taoki 00:29 Taoki np 00:35 kaeza hey Kacey 00:36 kaeza Kacey, just for the record, IRC mod DOES NOT WORK ON WINDOWS 00:36 Kacey lol 00:37 jordan4ibanez 'zactl 00:37 jordan4ibanez 'zactly* 00:37 kaeza the only solution I see is that Minetest uses a shared Lua DLL, so both MT and the mod use the exact same lib 00:40 kaeza is anyone else having problems accessing the forum? 00:40 Uberi hold on kaeza 00:40 Uberi nope 00:41 kaeza it says "Oops! Google Chrome could not find forum.minetest.net" for me :( 00:41 Uberi kaeza: one moment 00:42 Uberi what is the error? 00:42 sokomine can't we have a /msg command in mt? in *default*? 00:43 sokomine it is such a basic thing 00:43 Uberi sokomine: yeah I agree 00:43 Uberi I put it in Mesecons if that's any consolation though 00:43 kaeza meh... I'll try clearing the cache 00:44 sokomine sometimes you have small problems with a person and want to tell that person (who most likely hasn't noticed that it's a problem for you) and doing so in front of all other players is insulting 00:44 Uberi sokomine: if your server has mesecons, just use /say and /tell 00:44 sokomine so why don't we have that in defaultÃ? 00:44 Uberi well, nobody thought to add it 00:44 sokomine no, redcrabs server doesn't have :-( 00:44 Uberi aw 00:45 sokomine and mesecons is not the right place for it i'm afraid. it ought to be standard 00:45 Uberi yes I know 00:45 ShadowNinja Uberi: can you please change the /say command to something like /tellmyself so that you can send to the nearest player without hardcoding it in the commandblock? 00:45 Uberi ShadowNinja: I'm not sure what you mean 00:46 ShadowNinja And if you like I can make a pull request into builtin 00:46 Uberi that'd be lovely 00:46 ShadowNinja minetest.chat_send_player(name, param) basicaly 00:46 ShadowNinja so it says it to the berson that runs it 00:47 ShadowNinja s/berson/player/g 00:47 Uberi unless I'm misunderstanding, that's what tell does, ShadowNinja 00:49 jordan4ibanez should I have slime breeding? I just made the slimes hostile until tamed 00:49 Uberi jordan4ibanez: you can tame slimes? awesome! 00:50 jordan4ibanez xD 00:50 ShadowNinja you are misunderstanding :-) 00:50 sokomine there is a mod for servers that has a msg command as well. but i relly think this ought to be called the same everywhere and be available on every server 00:50 * Uberi just got the 3D printer working in Mesecons 00:50 Uberi ShadowNinja: oh, you mean you want to hardcode the player name in the command? 00:50 jordan4ibanez You could sell 3d items from minetest uberi 00:50 ShadowNinja /tellme a message and 00:50 sokomine ah, in mesecons. thought you where talking about a real one 00:50 Uberi jordan4ibanez: haha, I meant in-game :) 00:50 ShadowNinja no, the oposite 00:50 sokomine shadowninja: tell*me*? why me? 00:50 Uberi with pistons and magic 00:51 Uberi ShadowNinja: oh so tell the creator of the command block? 00:51 ShadowNinja so that @nearest on a commandblock can be used 00:51 Uberi oh tell whoever it's being run on 00:51 ShadowNinja no, the person that runs the command 00:51 ShadowNinja exactly 00:51 Uberi ah I see now 00:51 * sokomine looks puzzled 00:51 sokomine what are you talking about now? 00:51 Uberi that was confusing :P 00:51 ShadowNinja should /msg require shout? 00:52 Uberi yeah I forgot about that 00:52 sokomine good question. if we have /ignore as well, there would be no need 00:52 NekoGloop no 00:52 NekoGloop /msg should not need shout 00:52 NekoGloop (then you could /msg an op for shout privs :P) 00:53 Uberi oh yeah, you're right 00:53 Uberi but we also need /ignore 00:53 NekoGloop yep 00:54 Uberi I'll implement these right after I finish building an enclosure for my 3D printer out of steel blocks 00:57 sokomine :-) fine 00:57 * sokomine hands uberi a few leftover steel blocks 00:57 * Uberi is playing in creative mode 00:58 * NekoGloop is playing in mindfuck mode 00:58 Uberi is that a new game or something 00:58 jordan4ibanez fak u nkuglupe 00:58 sokomine also a finger/seen command would be nice. how far that ought to go would be open to debate i think. the msg is much more important 00:58 Uberi what would that do sokomine? 00:58 sokomine tell you when a player was last online 00:59 Uberi hmm, nifty 00:59 sokomine the finger info might tell you how many blocks the player has modified 00:59 Uberi if you ask me that should be part of rollback 00:59 sokomine rollback...yes...that's another point. right now it is too slow. at least it works... 01:00 sokomine hope we'll get that to speed eventually 01:00 Uberi yeah 01:00 Uberi aw no 01:00 Uberi lava everywhere 01:00 sokomine right now i'm still busy with my villages/traders 01:00 sokomine lava ought to be forbidden :-) 01:04 Uberi lava is needed to make the 3 cobble generators that feed the printer 01:04 Uberi unfortunately the ink is wool, a highly flammable substance :/ 01:05 Uberi thank goodness for backup with dropbox 01:05 sokomine as long as it catches fire *after* you delivered the 3d object... 01:05 Uberi heheheh 01:07 ShadowNinja how should the ignore list be stored? 01:07 Uberi maybe in a player formspec? 01:08 ShadowNinja oh, and I have to save this too, this is getting more complex than I want it 01:08 jordan4ibanez Now I can make teh baby slimes :3 01:09 ShadowNinja how about I just make /msg require shout, at least for now 01:09 Uberi well as NekoGloop said you probably want to give players some way to communicate at first 01:10 ShadowNinja yes, but you can use a mod if you want something more advanced 01:10 Uberi true 01:10 NekoGloop signs 01:11 jordan4ibanez lol 01:11 jordan4ibanez I can imagine that 01:11 jordan4ibanez "Hey how are you doing" ~erase~ "Not too good we can only talk with these si" ~cut off~ 01:13 Uberi aw yiss printed out a 2x2x2 object in 10 seconds 01:14 * jordan4ibanez highfives uberi 01:14 Uberi o/ * \o 01:15 jordan4ibanez WAIT! Baby slimes could grow larger by how much their timer is and when the visual size == 1 then they could transform into an adult slime! 01:15 Uberi gonna add /tellme now 01:15 Uberi jordan4ibanez: that is a nice idea 01:15 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdsRkhQUbZc 01:16 ShadowNinja I wish minetest.chat_send_player dodn't prepend Server -!- 01:16 Uberi me too 01:16 jordan4ibanez nekogloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLSIJVZAumI 01:17 jordan4ibanez shadowninja, how could it even be transfered to another client without the server? O.o 01:18 Uberi jordan4ibanez: ShadowNinja means when you use send_chat_player, the chat shows, "Server -!-" before your message 01:18 jordan4ibanez Ohhh, yeah that's very annoying 01:18 jordan4ibanez it's a simple c++ change too 01:18 VanessaE http://ifunny.mobi/#2XuMY26W <-- /me looks at this, then checks her jar of peanut putter.. "Allergy Warning: Contains peanuts" WELL NO SHIT, SHERLOCK!!! 01:18 Uberi where is it? pull reqs are cheap :) 01:18 jordan4ibanez in server.cpp 01:19 jordan4ibanez I forgot what line, I changed it a long time ago 01:19 Uberi bwahahaha 01:19 ShadowNinja what should the message format be, it should be obvious that it is a private messsage 01:20 NekoGloop VanessaE, "Soy Sauce - May contain soybeans" 01:20 NekoGloop -may-? 01:20 VanessaE heh 01:20 Uberi NekoGloop: you can also make soy sauce from processed soylent green! 01:21 NekoGloop er, actually it just says may contain soy 01:21 NekoGloop If it doesn't contain soy... what the hell does it contain? 01:21 Uberi oops need to rebase 01:21 Uberi NekoGloop: well any salty black liquid, really 01:21 VanessaE well you better rebase if you're making soy sauce out of soylent green 01:22 VanessaE ;) 01:22 Uberi but it's so much cheaper! 01:22 ShadowNinja Uberi: what should the format be, it shouldn't just be message as that looks too much like a normal message(as soon as Server -!- is removed) 01:22 Uberi ShadowNinja: redownload to get /tellme! 01:22 Uberi ShadowNinja: oh I just had it say the text directly 01:23 Uberi since it's meant for making custom maps and such 01:23 ShadowNinja well you want to know who to reply to/revoke shout from 01:23 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Add /tellme command to command block. 2cc38909a1 2013-03-27T18:21:44-07:00 http://git.io/P5e6ug 01:23 Uberi ShadowNinja: it doesn't apply, since /tellme only says it to yourself 01:24 ShadowNinja I mean for /msg 01:24 Uberi oh, hold on 01:25 Uberi I used (in mesecons) this format: %PLAYERNAME% whispers: %MESSAGE% 01:26 sokomine maybe like in irc: *playername* bla 01:27 sokomine or, better: Message from playername: bla 01:27 Uberi yeah that looks good 01:41 ShadowNinja Uberi: /msg added and pull requested 01:41 Uberi nice 01:42 VanessaE should be "Private message" 01:42 VanessaE imho. 01:42 VanessaE sorry for being late to the game there ;-) 01:42 kaeza http://ifunny.mobi/#I7uYV0Pc 01:43 ShadowNinja you mean Private message from player: message? 01:44 ShadowNinja that is getting terribly wordy 01:44 VanessaE kaeza: *shakes head* sickening, isn't it? 01:44 kaeza :( 01:44 ShadowNinja even *Player* message would be good 01:44 VanessaE ShadowNinja: "Priv msg from XXXX: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit.." 01:44 VanessaE seems short enough to me 01:45 VanessaE or "Pvt msg" 01:45 kaeza and yet there's another one that says that "if you don't have debts, and $10 in your pocket, you have moremoney than 25% of americans" 01:45 ShadowNinja now you are just abreviating, I think message implies private 01:45 VanessaE too bad the game can't open a new tab for private msgs :) 01:45 VanessaE kaeza: seen it. ikr? 01:45 VanessaE ShadowNinja: not really 01:45 Uberi or PM from PLAYER 01:45 Uberi "PM from singleplayer: hi" 01:45 VanessaE the concept of private message is pretty alien to MT players as it us 01:46 VanessaE Uberi: +`1 01:46 VanessaE +1 01:46 VanessaE as it is* 01:46 VanessaE sigh, typo correction FAIL 01:46 VanessaE :) 01:46 hmmmm you're implying that a debt means you don't have that money 01:47 hmmmm and equates to negative value on the person 01:47 hmmmm not so when debts can easily be forgiven, or disputed 01:47 hmmmm or entirely bogus 01:48 VanessaE I think the picture assumes legit, valid debt. 01:48 hmmmm you can also live your entire life without paying a debt 01:49 ShadowNinja VanessaE, Uberi: changed to PM from 01:49 Uberi OK 01:49 kaeza hmmmm, my point is, it sucks when there's people that must work 2/3 of the day to just make enough for food, while there are fucktards that have billions just for doing nothing 01:50 kaeza I'm no communist either 01:50 hmmmm it's okay to say that it sucks 01:51 hmmmm communists, however, see this as a problem that can be solved by removing incentive to produce 01:51 hmmmm ...which would only work in a world post-scarcity. 01:52 hmmmm i believe that communism is inevitable when the majority of the world's resources are automatically obtained by robots or whatever, and we won't run out of anything - without scarcity, there is no such thing as economics 01:53 Uberi sort of like the economy on Solaria 01:55 mauvebic its just as likely with robots theyll decide they dont need as big a labour force and return decaying cities to nature :p 01:56 mauvebic hell i dont know why the whole world doesn't have a 1 child policy for the next 50 years 01:56 mauvebic when robots make everything and all we have to do is consume/be happy thatll add up to a helluvalot more consuming than our present free time allows :p 01:57 mauvebic though theyll just as likely replace 'scarcity' with 'environment' as a reason to maintain the social/economic order as it is 01:58 mauvebic though i believe in being surprised :-) 02:10 Kacey hey anyone want to help me finish my mesecons project for the mesecons competition? 02:12 jordan4ibanez Guess what the next update is http://i.imgur.com/Z5malWo.png 02:16 Kacey anyone want to help me make something for the mesecons competition? 02:16 NekoGloop nope 02:16 NekoGloop jordan4ibanez, ALL THE COLORS 02:16 jordan4ibanez yes ALL THE COLOURS! 02:16 ShadowNinja Kacey: what is it? 02:16 sokomine other mod that ought to be written and that i'd like to have for some time: a +1 mod. just found some more houses on vanessas server that are good 02:17 Kacey ShadowNinja, join my server and find out 02:26 Kacey ShadowNinja, i need your help 02:28 Exio is possible to run MT on mac os x? 02:28 Exio not for me, btw :P 02:28 VanessaE bbl 02:30 Kacey anyone want to help? 02:31 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaHdwMA/screenshot_37846348.png no way... 02:33 jordan4ibanez Nice! 02:33 jordan4ibanez I think minetest has left mac so far behind it'll never catch up 02:36 Exio ok 02:36 jordan4ibanez Unless you or sfan can compile it of course 02:37 Exio i just don't have any mac 02:37 Exio (and never will) 02:38 hmmmm i actually got Mac OS X 10.8 running in a VM, and I have GCC set up 02:39 hmmmm i need to get around to getting the rest of the compile setup working. 02:46 Exio in a VM? 02:46 Exio does that even work? :P 02:46 jordan4ibanez Yes 02:46 Exio (in the xeon, no?) 02:46 jordan4ibanez If the VM works the compiler works 02:47 Exio i don't think it is going to work properly with an AMD cpu 02:47 jordan4ibanez it's emulated 02:47 Exio and i need to use for virtualizing, the fx or the netbook 02:47 jordan4ibanez you can change the cpu type in the VM 02:48 Exio the whole cpu type? 02:48 jordan4ibanez Yes 02:48 jordan4ibanez _I THINK_ 02:48 Exio the last time i checked in vbox it emulated just "some stuff" 02:48 jordan4ibanez https://drm.info/files/images/Tied-Magenta.preview.jpg 02:48 Exio and qemu is slow as hell with graphical things 02:49 Exio haha, nice image 02:50 jordan4ibanez I found it when I was looking up magenta lol 02:51 Exio magenta? stop stalking my desktop! 02:51 jordan4ibanez lolwut 02:51 Exio http://exio4.com.ar/_/screenshots/dwm-1.png 02:51 Exio (iirc the link) 02:52 jordan4ibanez nice picture 02:52 jordan4ibanez those font needs to be upgraded though lol 02:53 kaeza shit now I can't access lua.org :( 02:53 kaeza something is fucked on my system 02:53 kaeza and I have no idea what 02:53 Exio it is just a WIP desktop 02:53 NekoGloop you're using linux, of course. 02:53 Exio i'm still working on it :P 02:53 Exio but lazy 02:54 jordan4ibanez install kde! 02:54 Exio i setup it in parts, first was the dwm, then the wallpaper, then coded the status 02:54 kaeza I can't even access exio4.com.ar :( 02:54 jordan4ibanez then the work is done xD 02:54 Exio nah 02:54 jordan4ibanez that is pretty cool 02:54 Exio kde is awesome, but i don't want it as normal 'desktop' 02:54 jordan4ibanez Idea for mesecons thing 02:55 jordan4ibanez someone make a virtual desktop environment in minetest which accesses your folders on the real OS 02:55 Exio kaeza: install a local dns cache 02:55 Exio (+squid=profit) 02:55 kaeza Exio, how do I do that? 02:55 Exio apt-get install bind9 squid 02:55 kaeza kaeza: GIYF 02:55 Exio yeah 02:55 tri2d2 monsterwm > dwm 02:57 Exio maybe :P 02:57 kaeza Exio, installed. What do I do now? 03:00 Exio kaeza: vim /etc/bind/named.conf.options .. add forwarders { 8.8.8.8; 8.8.4.4; } (my config [not at the end, in the middle as part of the options "hash" or whatever :P) 03:00 Exio and then use 127.0.0.1 as dns in /etc/resolv.conf or whatever you do 03:00 ShadowNinja us_0gb: you should probably join your channel :-) 03:01 us_0gb Okay, I'm in. 03:04 kaeza Exio, done. what now? 03:04 kaeza reboot? 03:04 kaeza err... restart service? 03:06 Exio sorry 03:06 Exio this crashed 03:06 Exio kaeza: ok, now if you have the /etc/resolv.conf and the bind9 working 03:07 Exio just check it yourself, dig somedomain && dig somedomain and check the "request time or so" 03:07 Exio it would be only 1 or 0 ms the second time 03:07 Exio other thing, you will need to setup the squid, i'd say, read the config and check what you may want of it 03:08 Exio (as in, it has a very well self-documented config) 03:08 jordan4ibanez who wants to try the dyable slimes? 03:08 Exio and there is a lot of stuff, like how many png(s) keep more time in the cache and just make the php never get cached, and so 03:09 Exio s/many// idk 03:28 kaeza Exio, thanks! that worked. 03:28 kaeza I was about to nuke my system 03:28 Exio it is awesome for slow networks 03:28 Exio our networks* 03:28 Exio because you just have stuff locally == you don't download it == less latency :D 03:28 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Prevent infinite loop with invalid Inventory format d01b74d00a 2013-03-27T20:27:31-07:00 http://git.io/0zvt6Q 03:29 kaeza well... at least I can access minetest.org 03:29 kaeza err... .net 03:29 Exio .xxx 03:39 jordan4ibanez wat http://i.imgur.com/RywEQV1.jpg 04:03 jordan4ibanez VanessaE you'll like this update 04:03 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/cAB3hMC.png 04:04 VanessaE heh 04:04 VanessaE how do you color them? :-) 04:05 jordan4ibanez dyes 04:05 VanessaE sweet 04:06 NakedFury would it be too much stress for the game if players, npc, animals, monsters ended being like in this game: http://wollay.blogspot.com/ 04:07 jordan4ibanez Probably 04:12 jordan4ibanez I was thining of having different colored slimes spawn in different areas 04:12 jordan4ibanez so that way, on servers without dye crafting recipes, you can still have all colored slimes as pets 04:14 jordan4ibanez Goodnight 04:48 NekoGloop O)_(O 04:55 * VanessaE pokes NekoGloop 04:56 NekoGloop O)_(O 04:56 VanessaE heh 04:56 NekoGloop PFFT, registered nick based on a creepypasta. 04:57 VanessaE heh 05:10 * VanessaE pokes us_0gb, just because :) 05:10 us_0gb Hmm? I'm awake, Professor! 05:10 us_0gb Oh. It's you. I thought I dozed off in class again. 05:10 VanessaE heh 05:11 VanessaE ok, so what's your answer to question 11? 05:11 VanessaE ;) 05:11 us_0gb The assignment is an essay. There is no question eleven. Nice try though. 05:11 VanessaE lol 05:12 Kacey anyone want to help me make something for the mesecons competition? 05:13 us_0gb I suck at mesecons. You don't want my help. 05:13 Kacey lol 05:13 VanessaE sorry, I ain't any better :-) 05:14 us_0gb I made a door that only opened at night once. 05:14 us_0gb But that's the most interesting thing I ever made that worked. 05:14 VanessaE best I can claim is a classic 8-bit adder, and that's nothing compared to some other folks :-) 05:15 us_0gb It wan't even a fancy door, just 1*2. 05:15 kaeza I made a transporter using pistons and delayers, but most of the time items stuck on the line :( 05:17 Kacey i made a 4-bit decoder to 7-segment display 05:17 us_0gb Yeah .. I can't do fancy stuff like that. 05:18 us_0gb I pretty good at building cobble boxes though, if you ever need one. 05:18 kaeza lol 05:19 kaeza what I've seen is that not much people use mesecons for basic things like automated doors, brudges, etc. 05:19 Kacey lol 05:19 kaeza most just try to build a computer inside a computer 05:19 VanessaE Yo dawg,... etc 05:19 us_0gb I never really got into mesecons. 05:20 us_0gb I messes with them a bit because they were on Globis's server, but grw bored of them quickly. 05:20 us_0gb *messed 05:20 us_0gb *grew 05:21 kaeza VanessaE, Yo dawg! I put your dawg with a yo-yo into a yo-yo so you can play with your dawg while you play yo-yo while your dawg plays with his yo-yo, dawg 05:21 VanessaE kaeza: ow. 05:25 bdjnk http://www.animeroot.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/yo-dawg-yo-yo.jpg 05:26 kaeza yeah...something like that 05:31 kaeza what do I need to have the public server list? I can't see the 'Public' checkbox in the Multiplayer tab 05:31 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vaHdxYw/2013-03-28_01.12.42.png randomly 05:32 us_0gb You need to compile with cURL. 05:32 NekoGloop my observatory in MC 05:32 us_0gb Then you need to edit your minetest.conf. 05:32 us_0gb Set server_announce to true. 05:32 kaeza I used this: cmake . -DENABLE_CURL=1 -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 05:33 us_0gb Okay. Set that in your minetest.conf then. 05:33 kaeza I don't want to announce a server; I want to see the public server list 05:34 us_0gb Oh, see it? I don't know then. It works out of the box for me. 05:43 Kacey !up 67.162.156.91 05:43 MinetestBot 67.162.156.91:30000 seems to be down 05:43 Kacey !up 67.162.156.91 05:43 MinetestBot 67.162.156.91:30000 seems to be down 05:46 Kacey !up 67.162.156.91 05:46 MinetestBot 67.162.156.91:30000 seems to be down 05:46 Kacey hmm... 05:47 Kacey hopefully nobody minds me trying to forward a port here 05:47 Kacey !up 67.162.156.91 05:47 MinetestBot 67.162.156.91:30000 is up (0.302ms) 05:47 us_0gb Nice. 05:47 Kacey join that server to help 05:47 us_0gb Okay. Help what? 05:47 us_0gb Mesecons? 05:48 kaeza !up 186.122.187.63 05:48 MinetestBot 186.122.187.63:30000 is up (0.880ms) 05:48 Kacey yep building something for the competition 05:48 kaeza !up 186.122.187.63 05:49 MinetestBot 186.122.187.63:30000 seems to be down 05:49 us_0gb And ... down again. 05:50 kaeza !up 186.122.187.63 05:50 MinetestBot 186.122.187.63:30000 is up (0.675ms) 06:23 telek it probably wouldn't make it for 0.4.6/0.4.7 But at least by 0.4.8 somebody should see about rewriting the item and node definition code to have some sort of checksum/caching capability ala the media cache. While it's not a big deal on broadband, both of those can take minutes to load over dialup (which also means it's wasting a lot of bandwidth for people on capped cell phone data plans. 06:37 telek Other than that and the usual map block thread hangs it runs pretty smooth over dialup :) 07:34 kaeza is it just me or the entire .org TLD is down? 07:34 VanessaE slashdot is answering okay 07:35 VanessaE freeosund.org seems okay too 07:35 VanessaE er freesound* 07:36 kaeza must be some connection problems with these parts then 07:36 kaeza I can't access any .org domain 07:37 VanessaE weird 07:37 VanessaE maybe your modem has a virus ;-) 07:37 VanessaE jk 07:37 sfan5 "German grammar would probably be a lot clearer for a compiler/interpreter." quote from http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2013-March/019908.html 07:38 kaeza actually, the only domains I can access are .com 07:38 sfan5 what about trying sfan5.dyndns.org 07:38 VanessaE works for me, sfan5 07:38 sfan5 for me too 07:38 kaeza not here :( 07:38 VanessaE I suppose it had better work for you ;-) 07:38 VanessaE kaeza: try a different DNS server then 07:39 VanessaE what do you use now? 07:39 kaeza no idea... the modem auto-configures under windows 07:39 VanessaE I use 4.2.2.5, 4.2.2.4 07:39 VanessaE others like 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 07:39 VanessaE (verizon's and google's main servers, respectively) 07:41 kaeza brb 07:42 kaeza1 ok 07:42 VanessaE better? 07:42 kaeza1 at least .net working 07:42 kaeza1 also.org 07:43 kaeza1 hmm... I wonder if my provider is doing some kind of maintenance, or using the recent DDoS as an excuse for being lazy 07:44 VanessaE who knows 07:44 kaeza1 thank you for the help. BTW, I use manual config using 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 now 07:45 kaeza1 maybe I should setup that on Linux too 07:45 VanessaE yes 07:46 kaeza1 LOL http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79395#p79395 07:47 kaeza oh nice! sfan5.dyndns.org has a forkbomb.exe in it 07:48 sfan5 its uneffectife on xp 07:48 sfan5 but makes win 7 blue screen/crash with 100% guarantee 07:48 kaeza hehe... I ain't clicking that thing anyway 07:49 sfan5 s/uneffectife/uneffective/ 07:49 sfan5 the googlebot seriously crawled my private "server" at sfan5.dyndns.org:8888 07:49 kaeza don't you have a robots.txt file? 07:50 sfan5 i have 07:50 sfan5 the server is written in python 07:50 sfan5 so theres no filesystem directly mapped to it 07:57 sfan5 ibot.rikers.org/20130125.html.gz " *** sfan5|OFF materializes into sfan5 " 08:29 us_0gb I think I managed to fix that annoying node-replacement bug. 08:29 VanessaE oh? 08:29 us_0gb It seems to work on my local copy anyway. 08:30 us_0gb I thought it was an engine thing, but it seems to actually be a Lua thing, having to do with the fact that ignore is buildable_to. 08:31 celeron55 is it the pull request from few days ago? 08:32 us_0gb Is it? If so, I just rewrote it for nothing .... 08:32 us_0gb Checking ... 08:33 celeron55 now that i think of it, that's only one way to fix it... i think the real fix does not involve modifying any node definitions - changing ignore to buildable_to has wider effects than just that case, which is probably undesirable 08:33 us_0gb Nope. ShadowNinja's makes ignore not buildable_to, mine fixes the issue. 08:33 us_0gb Mine doesn't modify any nodes. 08:33 celeron55 do you make the engine actually check whether a node is ignore or if it's actually inexistent? 08:34 celeron55 the latter is the case that is currently buggy 08:34 us_0gb It uses get_node_or_nil(), which should return nil olny in unloaded chunks. 08:34 us_0gb *only 08:34 celeron55 sounds good so far 8) 08:36 us_0gb Basically, that's all it does. It checks pointed_thing.above, and pointed_thing.below. Oh, also logs if it has to abort the placement. 08:37 celeron55 lagging in a rare case like that doesn't matter 08:37 celeron55 oh lol 08:37 celeron55 it was an 'o' 8) 08:38 celeron55 whatever then 08:38 us_0gb An 'o'? What? 08:42 ironzorg lags/logs 08:43 us_0gb Ah. So logging is a bad idea? 08:43 VanessaE no but lagging is :) 08:48 VanessaE bbl, bed 08:48 us_0gb Good night. 08:48 us_0gb No wonder my frame rate is so low ... For some reason, I have two clients open. 10:15 sfan5 the place many people go: 10:15 sfan5 >>> hashlib.sha3_384(b".").hexdigest()[51:54] 10:15 sfan5 'bed' 10:17 markveidemanis Take 4 away from a certain number, then divide it by 8. The answer id the same as it would be if you had added 6 to the number and then divided it by 10. What is the number? 10:18 sfan5 markveidemanis: ... 10:18 sfan5 44 10:19 markveidemanis HOW THE HELL DID YOU DO THAT 10:19 sfan5 >>> for i in range(-500, 500): 10:19 sfan5 ... if (i - 4) / 8 == (i + 6) / 10: 10:19 sfan5 ... print("MATCH: %i" % (i)) 10:20 markveidemanis ah, k 10:20 markveidemanis I tried to add the numbers 10:20 sfan5 just "brute-forcing" for a result is the easiest way 10:21 markveidemanis Could you explain the '%' 10:21 sfan5 do you know printf? 10:21 markveidemanis no 10:21 sfan5 :/ 10:22 markveidemanis print or printf 10:22 markveidemanis That program gives me the same answer as the one i did 10:22 sfan5 to explain it easy: "MATCH: %i".replace("%i", i) 10:22 sfan5 it replaces "%i" by the number 10:22 markveidemanis to concatenate strings and integers? 10:23 markveidemanis k 10:55 markveidemanis Can someone help with blender? 10:56 markveidemanis The wielditem mod blend files override the default player animation and i changed mine 11:14 * sfan5 is now going to post in any mod topic with faults (powered by https://gist.github.com/sfan5/4642453 ) 11:59 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 12:11 pandaro hi adam 12:12 markveidemanis Hi Zeg9 12:12 Zeg9 Hi 12:14 pandaro adam:yesterday you added something about the collisions between entities. 12:14 v2px celeron55: the launchpad fix is up :) 12:14 pandaro adam:how do they work? as a modder can use this feature? I have to wait for new API? 12:24 markveidemanis Anyone want the results of MT-CRAWLER? 12:25 17SACNWZZ !up minetest.info.tm 12:25 MinetestBot minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down 12:26 17SACNWZZ !up minetest.info.tm 12:26 MinetestBot minetest.info.tm:30000 is up (0.591ms) 12:28 markveidemanis http://paste.pound-python.org/show/31730/ 12:28 markveidemanis http://paste.pound-python.org/show/31731/ 12:29 Zeg9 Hi sparky 12:29 STHGOM hi 12:35 sfan5 :/ 12:36 STHGOM YOU BACK!!! 12:36 sfan5 some regular expression I made work in 2 different online regex tester tools, but just won't work in python 12:37 Zeg9 Anyone could check this ? http://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/571 12:37 sfan5 markveidemanis: why do you post that here? 12:38 markveidemanis Just thought it might be of some use to someone 12:39 STHGOM i found a picture of a sniper gun in the firearms mod, i am trying to make it work... 12:40 * sfan5 is just to dumb to use the python re module 12:41 sfan5 it works! 12:42 sfan5 my bot can now automatically post to mod topics: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79426#p79426 12:43 markveidemanis BOTUSER is a test 12:43 markveidemanis He may be joining us 12:49 kaeza "From: /usr/bin/python2.7" <-- LOL 12:49 Zeg9 Hi 12:49 kaeza hai Zeg 12:51 sfan5 !sfu sfan5 12:51 MinetestBot sfan5 Moderator 2,108 posts, registered on 2011-08-24 | id: 239 12:51 kaeza sfan5, nice! 12:52 sfan5 !sfu kaeza 12:52 MinetestBot kaeza Member 748 posts, registered on 2012-10-18 | id: 3279 12:53 STHGOM on the forum? 12:53 BOTUSER Hello, #minetest! 12:53 markveidemanis HOORAY!!! 12:53 STHGOM Hello! 12:54 STHGOM Welcome! 12:54 markveidemanis Thank you, thats my bot, its just a dummie atm 12:54 markveidemanis I made sure to put the meaage outside the while 1: loop :D 12:54 markveidemanis *message* 12:54 kaeza !sfu afgagfh 12:54 MinetestBot kaeza: No Results found 12:55 kaeza :) 12:55 markveidemanis ok from now testing is on #mtmt if you are interested 12:55 STHGOM !sfu SilverWolfLily22 12:55 MinetestBot SilverWolfLily22 Member 58 posts, registered on 2012-10-20 | id: 3302 12:55 STHGOM !sfu captainfap 12:55 MinetestBot captainfap Member 237 posts, registered on 2012-07-11 | id: 2354 12:56 markveidemanis !stfu kaeza :P 12:56 kaeza sftu: unknown command 12:56 kaeza faj 12:56 kaeza typo 12:56 STHGOM !sfu MinetestBot 12:56 MinetestBot STHGOM: No Results found 12:56 STHGOM noooooooooooooooooo 12:57 sfan5 !sfu sfan5* 12:57 MinetestBot sfan5 Moderator 2,108 posts, registered on 2011-08-24 | id: 239 12:57 MinetestBot sfan5-bot New member 2 posts, registered on Today | id: 4833 12:57 kaeza sfan5, did you put a cap on it? 12:57 kaeza I mean, number of users displayed? 12:58 sfan5 yes 12:58 sfan5 !sfu * 12:58 MinetestBot sfan5: Too many matches: 50 12:58 sfan5 but it currently only searchs the first site of the search resutls 12:58 sfan5 *results 12:59 kaeza ah good :) otherwise I can see some users (*cough*markv*cough*) spamming again 12:59 Zeg9 bbl 13:00 sfan5 kaeza: MinetestBot ignores markve.demanis by default 13:00 sfan5 i have to manually tell MinetestBot to unignore him 13:00 kaeza hehe 13:01 sfan5 https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/antiabuse.py#L10 13:01 STHGOM kaeza: why does you gun mod lag so much? 13:02 kaeza STHGOM, lag? you aren't shooting like crazy are you? :P 13:02 STHGOM umm... 13:02 STHGOM no 13:02 markveidemanis at #mtmt , i made a spambot 13:03 STHGOM i made a sniper rifle :D 13:04 kaeza STHGOM, make a pull request :) 13:04 STHGOM whats that? 13:04 STHGOM :P 13:06 kaeza STHGOM, to merge your changes/additions into the mod 13:06 STHGOM i did 13:08 markveidemanis How do i set all the text inside a file to a python variable? 13:09 kaeza simple 13:09 STHGOM now i will make grenade 13:09 kaeza → #python 13:10 sfan5 markveidemanis: http://pastie.org/7149698 13:11 markveidemanis k, ty 13:11 markveidemanis Now i need to read that file from another script and set all the text within it to a variable 13:12 sfan5 "read that file from another script" what does that mean? 13:13 markveidemanis I have written to that file, now i need to set the contents of the file to a variable within another file 13:13 markveidemanis File1: set content >> datafile.txt 13:13 sfan5 "within another file" 13:13 sfan5 what does that mean? 13:13 sfan5 (exactly) 13:13 markveidemanis File2: set msg >> datafile.txt 13:14 markveidemanis I need to read a file 13:14 sfan5 which one? 13:15 markveidemanis datafile.txt is the file with the text i want to set to a variable 13:15 sfan5 yeah 13:16 sfan5 but which file do you need to read? 13:17 markveidemanis i need to read datafile.txt from File2 13:18 sfan5 ... 13:18 sfan5 so, you need the part after ">> " from file2 13:20 markveidemanis http://paste.pound-python.org/show/31732/ 13:20 markveidemanis This is for an IRC client 13:20 markveidemanis http://paste.pound-python.org/show/31733/ 13:21 markveidemanis It will send the text in the file 13:21 sfan5 ohh 13:22 markveidemanis I have to do it in that way because i may need more that 1 client to send stuff and it seems efficient 13:22 markveidemanis so that i can make 1 connection to the server but have many clients open 13:23 markveidemanis But then i would have to remove some lines... Anyway thats for future me to worry about :D 13:24 sfan5 markveidemanis: like this? http://paste.pound-python.org/show/31734/ 13:25 markveidemanis SERVER ERROR 13:25 markveidemanis when i click the link 13:25 markveidemanis error 500 13:26 sfan5 and the problem is that if client1 writes message.txt and the bot is not done with the s.read(1024) and then client2 wants to send a message the message.txt from client1 get overwritten 13:27 markveidemanis file = open("message.txt", "w") ... 13:27 markveidemanis I can use file = open("message.txt", "r") 13:27 sfan5 no 13:27 sfan5 you said something with multiple client 13:27 sfan5 they all use 1 message.txt 13:27 markveidemanis screw that idea for now 13:30 markveidemanis sfan5, can you repaste that plz 13:30 sfan5 will do that 13:30 markveidemanis but use another service 13:30 sfan5 ok 13:31 markveidemanis it is broken for me 13:31 markveidemanis http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://paste.pound-python.org/show/31734/ 13:32 markveidemanis Yep, i broke my internet 13:35 markveidemanis hi... 13:37 NekoGloop O)_(O 13:38 kaeza (⌐■_■) 13:38 NekoGloop O)_(O 13:39 sfan5 markveidemanis: http://pastie.org/7150126 13:41 sfan5 markveidemanis: that uses threading to achieve a non-blocking socket.read function, and makes sure multiple client work without interefering with eachother 13:43 sfan5 markveidemanis: forgot something 13:43 sfan5 http://pastie.org/7150148 13:43 STHGOM helloooo 13:44 markveidemanis Thats very overcomplicated 13:44 sfan5 ... 13:44 sfan5 i should maybe test script before i paste them 13:45 sfan5 markveidemanis: but its requires 13:45 sfan5 *required 13:45 markveidemanis My script was fine, i just needed a way to access the variable from another script to have something to send 13:46 markveidemanis Can you repaste my original script, i lost that too 13:50 Jordach huh 13:50 Jordach python ftw 13:51 Exio python is java v2 13:51 Exio the new and cool language for the moment 13:51 Exio with lots of syntatic sugar 13:52 Exio with a pseudo OOP 13:52 Exio what doesn't support private data, and so on 13:52 STHGOM is there any way to zoom in/out in minetest? 13:54 kaeza STHGOM, not programatically 13:55 kaeza STHGOM, /set fov 10 13:55 STHGOM you can put that in a mod can you/ 13:55 kaeza nope :/ 13:56 STHGOM haha i set fov 0 13:59 STHGOM now i can snipe 13:59 kaeza try /set fov 150 13:59 kaeza :P 14:02 STHGOM i did 14:02 STHGOM :D 14:02 STHGOM makes it look like you run really fast 14:05 Jordach anyone here skilled with ssh 14:05 Exio better if you ask, no? 14:10 STHGOM bye! 14:11 Jordach right properly logged into ssh now 14:15 Jordach OH GOD, this is WIN http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-280313-141503.php 14:18 Jordach done. added myself to sudo (noob) 14:18 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vaHd2bw/2013-03-28_10.03.59.png 14:19 Jordach NekoGloop, nice 14:21 Jordach NekoGloop, im going to open my own 24/7 vps 14:21 Jordach (as in, MT SERVER) 14:26 Jordach compiling 14:29 Jordach anyways, almost there! http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-280313-142903.php 14:35 Jordach oh btw, scriptapt.cpp:701: warning: unused variable 'ndef' 14:35 Jordach fuxme 14:36 Jordach markveidemanis, you've been moaning of a survival server with just default 14:37 Jordach i might have finally made your dream come true 14:37 markveidemanis Yes... 14:37 Jordach my VPS currently just has a default minetest_game pulled fresh this afternoon 14:37 Jordach you might finally get it 14:38 Jordach brb 14:45 bas080 Question, can i move a node together with it's meta? 14:46 bas080 or something like set_meta? or do I have to do it for every field? 14:46 PilzAdam bas080, hint: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1253 14:46 bas080 TY, PilzAdam 14:48 RealBadAngel bas80: more hints: https://github.com/minetest/common/blob/master/mods/default/init.lua#L1766 14:49 RealBadAngel this is used to swap nodes but preserve meta 14:49 PilzAdam do not call this method from default; it will be removed in the future 14:49 RealBadAngel i do have my own copy of it ;) 14:50 * Jordach has a possible Technic server in the works 14:51 RealBadAngel but the method explains how to remove node. store meta, place it somwhere (doesnt have to be on the very same pos) and rebuild meta 14:52 RealBadAngel im lookin for a noncreative server to play on 14:52 Jordach RealBadAngel, you might be in luck 14:52 RealBadAngel :) 14:53 RealBadAngel just do it 14:53 Jordach just wait for me to finish compiling 14:53 Jordach NOOOO 14:53 Infinity_69 hi 14:53 Infinity_69 VanessaE, are you on? 14:53 Jordach Hint: This is going to be a suvival world, but bonuses are awarded for doing creative things 14:54 Jordach such as cities 14:54 Infinity_69 Jordach, im a programmer :) 14:54 Jordach high risers 14:54 Infinity_69 im working on a program in Python 3 14:54 * Jordach slaps Infinity_69 for using Python 3 14:54 Infinity_69 a friend of mine converts python 3 to python 2... :D 14:54 Jordach NO! 14:54 Jordach 2.7.x or GTFO 14:54 Infinity_69 so, no harm done 14:54 Infinity_69 well, there is a p2 version, but p3 is out before p2 :/ 14:55 Infinity_69 because Manuel will have 2 convert 3to2 :D 14:55 RealBadAngel Jordach are you goin to use there latest git? 14:55 Infinity_69 with a program called 3to2 14:55 Infinity_69 xD 14:55 Jordach RealBadAngel, yes 14:55 Jordach pulled about 2PM GMT+0 14:55 Infinity_69 its a simple program atm... 14:55 RealBadAngel Jordach so wait a couple of minutest for technic update 14:55 RealBadAngel regarding ores 14:55 * Jordach sighs 14:56 RealBadAngel lmao: "minutests" ;) 14:56 Jordach anyways, privs can only be attained via me 14:57 Infinity_69 where do i get the current GPL? 14:57 kaeza GPL? yuck! 14:57 Infinity_69 what?! 14:57 Infinity_69 General Public Licence! 14:57 Infinity_69 wait, i know! 14:57 kaeza LGPL FTW! 14:58 kaeza or better yet, BSD license :D 14:58 Jordach WARNING: SERVER TIME SPEED WILL BE 24 HOURS SYNCED TO GMT+0 14:59 Infinity_69 whats lgpl? 14:59 Jordach essentially allows you to use the program like a library 14:59 Infinity_69 whats the difference 15:00 RealBadAngel Jordach, technic is updated with ores 15:00 Jordach using lgpl means people can make money from it and not give the source code irrc 15:00 Jordach iirc* 15:00 Infinity_69 wait so i cant make money with gpl? 15:00 Infinity_69 o.o 15:01 RealBadAngel brb, goin to cook somehin to eat 15:02 Infinity_69 bacon FTW! 15:02 Jordach server is up with: 94.249.210.106 : 30000 15:02 Jordach markveidemanis, ^ 15:03 markveidemanis Im doing some python atm, il be on later 15:03 Infinity_69 mark! 15:03 Infinity_69 im doing python :D 15:03 Infinity_69 wanna test it? 15:03 Infinity_69 xD 15:04 Jordach PilzAdam, RealBadAngel my client just died D: 15:05 RealBadAngel RIP ;) 15:05 RealBadAngel why? 15:05 Infinity_69 because Cobalt had to live! 15:05 Infinity_69 it lives! 15:05 Infinity_69 IT LIVES! 15:05 Jordach i tried to do stuff and it just went bleeehhhhhh 15:05 RealBadAngel add moretrees 15:05 Infinity_69 *evil yet annoying laught* 15:05 Jordach i need latest 15:06 RealBadAngel there are no trees in your world 15:06 Jordach RealBadAngel, i can do this stuff at a later date 15:06 Infinity_69 what should i add in a library folder of a python program? 15:06 RealBadAngel on generate stuff better add at the very begining 15:08 Jordach right logged back in 15:14 Jordach RealBadAngel, ill be about in five mins 15:14 Jordach PilzAdam, you too0 15:14 Jordach too* 15:14 Jordach and i need to modify my auth.txt 15:15 Jordach (as the game failed to give me admin privs 15:16 markveidemanis sfan5 15:16 markveidemanis HELP 15:16 sfan5 what? 15:16 markveidemanis i am failing with the bot on 'mtmt 15:16 Jordach markveidemanis, if you have python problems, ask me 15:16 markveidemanis ok 15:16 sfan5 no, ask me 15:16 * Jordach slaps sfan5 with ssh 15:17 markveidemanis Il google it :P 15:17 * sfan5 slaps Jordach with telnet 15:17 * Jordach slaps sfan5 with Metro UI 15:17 * sfan5 slaps Jordach with JQuery UI 15:17 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/7151428 15:17 * Jordach feeds sfan5 Windows 8 15:17 markveidemanis It just spams even though i have an if statement 15:18 * sfan5 feeds Jordach ElementaryOS Beta 1 15:18 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/7151435 15:18 Jordach markveidemanis, while 1: results to true 15:18 sfan5 markveidemanis: the file is not deleted 15:18 sfan5 you need to delete message.txt after you used it 15:18 sfan5 os.delte("message.txt") 15:19 Jordach delete* 15:19 markveidemanis Can you do it better, i dont know how to have a better if statement on which to send the file to prevent spam 15:19 markveidemanis k 15:19 Jordach Jordach calling PilzAdam 15:19 sfan5 does anyone here have iDevice and likes python 15:19 Jordach yes 15:19 PilzAdam Jordach, hm? 15:19 sfan5 you 15:19 Jordach i know of an app that allows coding on iPads 15:19 Jordach PilzAdam, i need to restart the server with an updated privs 15:20 sfan5 I know that I compiled python 2.7 for idevices 15:20 Jordach and you will need to redo the password you used 15:20 PilzAdam Jordach, k 15:21 markveidemanis can you edit both the files so it works then way i did it? 15:21 markveidemanis To make it a light client 15:21 Jordach http://paste.ubuntu.com/5655420/ 15:21 Jordach PilzAdam, RealBadAngel ^ 15:22 PilzAdam Jordach, tell me when i can relogin 15:22 sfan5 markveidemanis: http://pastie.org/7151476 15:22 Jordach waiting for minetest now 15:23 markveidemanis AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'delete' 15:23 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vaHd3OA/2013-03-28_11.19.39.png and this is why I will brutally murder the person who makes creepers. 15:24 kaeza http://ifunny.mobi/#GuyKiHzn 15:24 sfan5 markveidemanis: replace os.delete with os.remove 15:25 markveidemanis IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'message.txt' it deletes it 15:26 markveidemanis it wont work if it not there and if its there it deletes it 15:27 PilzAdam Jordach, I am wating 15:27 PilzAdam +i 15:31 artur99 hi 15:31 artur99 is this freenode? im trying to set mirc 15:32 v2px yes 15:32 v2px #minetest on freenode.. 15:32 artur99 k, thanks 15:32 sfan5 yes, this is freenode 15:33 artur99 now i have an other question: what means Open a terminal and drop the bash script in and run it ? 15:33 artur99 from: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Setting_up_a_server 15:34 sfan5 save the script as a file 15:35 artur99 with no extension? 15:36 PilzAdam artur99, it doesnt matterm but most scripts have .sh 15:36 PilzAdam -m 15:37 artur99 i have the .sh file 15:37 artur99 but where to put it? 15:38 PilzAdam open a terminal and use the "cd" command to go to the directory where the script is 15:38 artur99 and what is a terminal? 15:38 artur99 cmd and run? 15:39 PilzAdam are you on windows? 15:39 artur99 yea 15:39 artur99 *yes 15:39 PilzAdam then forget it 15:39 Infinity_69 hi PilzAdam 15:39 Jordach .sh wont run 15:40 PilzAdam its Linux only 15:40 Infinity_69 im making a program with x10sions xD 15:40 Infinity_69 get it? 15:40 PilzAdam artur99, why do you follow the steps under "Linux" when you have windows? 15:41 jordan4ibanez turn .sh into bat 15:41 artur99 :D i didnt saw "Linux" 15:41 Jordach jordan4ibanez, WIN 15:42 artur99 and there, on windows, should i make a new txt file? 15:42 tripod hello 15:42 tripod anyone here good @ bash 15:42 tripod ran into a brick wall 15:42 jordan4ibanez Weedy_lappy 15:42 tripod well my level with bash 15:42 markveidemanis sfan5: can you help? 15:42 * Infinity_69 : Winning! 15:43 sfan5 markveidemanis: wheres the problem? 15:43 jordan4ibanez I've installed so many terrain generation mods that it now takes minetest about 2 minutes to generate a chunk 15:43 markveidemanis having a variable which if true sends the message 15:43 markveidemanis To prevent spam 15:44 Weedy_lappy jordan4ibanez: wat 15:44 jordan4ibanez some forum thing needs help with bash 15:44 Weedy_lappy oh 15:44 Weedy_lappy link 15:45 jordan4ibanez tripod give him the link 15:45 * Jordach doesnt mind working with ssh, but its still a pain 15:45 Weedy_lappy tripod: hi 15:45 tripod hai 15:45 tripod 1 second 15:45 tripod it isnt minetest related :P 15:45 jordan4ibanez Oh 15:46 jordan4ibanez you made me wake up weedy for nothing? 15:46 tripod basically. 15:46 Weedy_lappy :< 15:46 sfan5 markveidemanis: if you don't know how to define a variable and use if you need to read a python tutorial 15:46 tripod he can go back to slumber 15:46 jordan4ibanez I curse you to -1000 years of slog 15:46 Weedy_lappy :V 15:46 Weedy_lappy so 15:46 tripod jordan4ibanez: after i have slept for at least 12 hours. 15:46 Weedy_lappy am I going to see some code or what? 15:47 tripod yes 15:47 tripod one moment 15:48 tripod ttp://sprunge.us/UdJc 15:48 tripod basically 15:48 tripod #volume status 15:48 tripod is where you want to look 15:48 tripod if you see anything wrong with #volume status 15:48 tripod i will give you a bj with interest 15:48 jordan4ibanez ^lmfao 15:49 tripod basically that code is for my bar for windowmanager, it should dyncamically adjust a volume bar 15:49 tripod but doesnt seem to 15:49 tripod i shall brb 15:49 tripod i need an early morning snack 15:50 tripod i also need a smoke 15:50 Weedy_lappy hmm 15:50 tripod like it looks fine to me 15:50 tripod but yer =/ 15:51 tripod dang it's saturday already 15:51 sfan5 saturday?? 15:51 tripod I am in Australia. 15:51 tripod upsidedown land 15:52 sfan5 ah, ok 15:53 sfan5 tripod: ¡sıɥʇ pɐǝɹ oʇ ǝlqɐ ǝq plnoɥs noʎ uǝɥ┴ 15:53 Weedy_lappy hmm 15:53 tripod nice script sfan5 15:53 tripod :D 15:55 Weedy_lappy > unexpected operator 15:55 Weedy_lappy the hell, why is it trying to execute a string compare 15:56 sfan5 script? which script? 15:56 sfan5 wtf internet 15:56 sfan5 i just had 1 minute lag 15:56 Kacey hi all 15:57 jordan4ibanez wait, can't we generate biomes in LUA now? 15:57 sfan5 tripod: which script? 15:59 tripod upsidedown 15:59 tripod text 15:59 tripod btw i meant friday 15:59 tripod not saturday 16:00 Kacey anyone want to help with a mesecons competition project? 16:00 sfan5 tripod: http://www.upsidedowntext.com/ 16:00 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/common: Tweak oregen: make gold a bit more common, make diamonds a bit more rare e8a0edbbac 2013-03-28T06:50:53-07:00 http://git.io/Lb92Jw 16:04 jordan4ibanez can on_generated be made even faster? 16:05 Weedy_lappy tripod: so uhh 16:05 Weedy_lappy this works 16:05 * Kacey is starting to think minetest is looking like minecraft because of PilzAdam 16:05 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, the default usage of on_genrated() takes 0 to 19 ms 16:06 jordan4ibanez then why are mods so bad at utilizing it? could there be a find_surface addition to it? so that you can add in nodes without slowing down the terrain generation to a crawl? 16:08 Exio for the ores, now you have a minetest.generate_ore 16:08 Exio what does the hard work in WAY less time than before, for ores 16:08 jordan4ibanez No, I'm talking about finding a surface 16:08 jordan4ibanez like the tree mod, the plant mod, and a lot of others 16:09 Exio ah 16:09 Exio luajit 16:09 jordan4ibanez there has to be some way to find the surface of a chunk (if there is one) without using such complex things 16:09 jordan4ibanez no, not luajit, it's the way you have to find a surface, you get the middle of the chunk. they find the nodes near in a loop and such, and it slows down horribly 16:11 Kacey !upmenche.servegame.com 16:11 Kacey !up menche.servegame.com 16:11 MinetestBot menche.servegame.com:30000 seems to be down 16:11 Kacey huh 16:15 jordan4ibanez Also: with that memory upgrade, I don't think that minetest has a limit for mods any more 16:18 BlockMen hi 16:22 jordan4ibanez Hi blockmen 16:22 Jordach BlockMen, please use a real IRC Client such as HExChat 16:23 Kacey lol XChat ftw!!!! 16:23 BlockMen oh..whats wrong with freenode? 16:23 Kacey webchat isnot a client 16:23 Kacey freenode is the network 16:23 Jordach BlockMen, nono client is the thing that sends chat and recieves chat 16:25 tripod Weedy_lappy: it is for you? 16:25 tripod must be my alsa 16:25 tripod thanks for confirmming 16:25 * Kacey needs help with his mesecons project 16:25 BlockMen ic. i ment qwebirc. 16:25 BlockMen does it make problems? 16:25 Weedy_lappy tripod: what are you expecting 16:26 tripod there are 3 volume icons 16:26 tripod max/min/mute 16:29 Weedy_lappy 21%  16:29 Weedy_lappy 14%  16:30 Weedy_lappy 2%  16:30 BlockMen brb 16:30 Weedy_lappy http://dpaste.com/1037825/ 16:31 Weedy_lappy I use pulse so I have no PCM 16:31 Exio should not you have one? 16:32 Exio in alsa, because the pulseaudio stuff ends in the hw using alsa 16:33 Kacey this isn't working very well... 16:33 Weedy_lappy $ amixer 16:33 Weedy_lappy Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 65536 16:33 Weedy_lappy nope 16:34 Exio only master? 16:34 Weedy_lappy yup 16:35 BlockMen bk...and hexchat dont work 16:37 BlockMen sfan, do you compile on windows? 16:37 BlockMen *sfan5 16:37 sfan5 no 16:37 sfan5 i compile on linux 16:37 sfan5 (for windows) 16:37 BlockMen damn...:\ 16:38 BlockMen has anyone ever build minetest under windows with vs? 16:38 Kacey nope 16:39 Kacey i need some help for my mesecons project... 16:39 BlockMen what sort of help? 16:40 Kacey luacontroller 16:40 Jordach BlockMen, it's possible, thexyz does it 16:41 BlockMen Jordach, thx. i will ask him 16:41 BlockMen he is not online atm, right? 16:41 thexyz yep 16:41 thexyz i am not 16:41 BlockMen oh, sry! 16:42 BlockMen thexyz, do you compile with vs? 16:43 Infinity_69 bye guys 16:43 BlockMen Kacey, i fear i can't help 16:43 BlockMen but i can try if you want 16:45 Kacey !up 67.162.156.91 16:45 MinetestBot 67.162.156.91:30000 is up (0.321ms) 16:46 Zeg9 Hello 16:47 Kacey hi 16:47 BlockMen hi 16:50 sfan5 I just saw the new IE commercial 16:50 sfan5 no matter how touch IE is, it will always be crap 16:50 thexyz i do 16:50 Jordach sfan5, i see it often too ;L 16:51 thexyz BlockMen: what do you want 16:51 Kacey they keep dropping as items... 16:52 rubenwardy hi all 16:52 Zeg9 Hi 16:52 Kacey hi rubenwardy 16:52 BlockMen thexyz, when i try to compile i get always an error from minetest project 16:52 rubenwardy Jordach, are you 313hummer on youtube? 16:52 Jordach NO 16:52 Kacey jordan4ibanez is 313hummer 16:52 Jordach jordan4ibanez, is 16:52 jordan4ibanez wat 16:52 BlockMen thexyz, "d:\dir\minetest\src\irrlichttypes.h(23): fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht geöffnet werden: "irrTypes.h": No such file or directory" 16:53 thexyz your irrlicht dir is invalid 16:53 thexyz or your irrlicht is borked 16:55 BlockMen in the CMakeList.txt there is just this 'set(IRRLICHT_SOURCE_DIR "${PROJECT_SOURCE_DIR}/../../irrlicht-1.7.2" CACHE PATH "irrlicht dir")', altough i had defindes include at cmake aswell 16:55 * Kacey needs help with his mesecons project 16:55 Kacey my luacontrollers seem to like overheating... 16:55 rubenwardy lol, http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=minetest+worst+mod&oq=minetest+worst+mod&gs_l=youtube.3...1882.2517.0.2701.4.4.0.0.0.0.112.342.3j1.4.0...0.0...1ac.1.ADxIP7cwVhY comes up with mobf 16:56 thexyz you should define it yourself 16:56 thexyz point to directory with irrlicht sources 16:56 rubenwardy then tnt, then block forge, then my finite water mod 16:56 BlockMen thexyz, i added this: 'set(IRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR "${PROJECT_SOURCE_DIR}/../../irrlicht-1.7.2/include/" CACHE PATH "irrlicht include directory")', but it didn't work either 16:57 thexyz use cmake-gui 16:57 thexyz on windows 16:59 BlockMen hmm, tried with cmake-gui like 20 times, he doesnt save it in the CMakeList.txt 16:59 BlockMen any idea...like idk, some like cmake? 16:59 BlockMen *i mean a diferent program with does same like cmake 17:00 rubenwardy jordan4ibanez: I like your voice 17:00 jordan4ibanez Thank you 17:00 * Kacey wishes ShadowNnja|Away would stop being away 17:01 rubenwardy sfan5: you should update this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4596 17:01 rubenwardy and put [Updated: ] in the title 17:02 sfan5 rubenwardy: ok 17:03 * Kacey is going to rage quit this project 17:04 thexyz works fine for me 17:06 sfan5 rubenwardy: done! http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=66382 17:07 Zeg9 BlockMen, cmake saves your custom settings in CMakeCache.txt 17:09 Kacey GAAH!!! 17:10 BlockMen Zeg9, then i don't get it. CMakeCache.txt says now "IRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR:PATH=DIR/irrlicht-1.7.1/include/", so that is correct 17:10 Zeg9 Have you checked if in this folder, there is a irrTypes.h? 17:11 Exio /? 17:11 BlockMen but when i compile it does not find the irrlicht-files 17:11 Exio in windows? 17:11 Exio on;2~* 17:11 BlockMen Zeg9, ya 17:11 BlockMen Exio, ya 17:12 Kacey THIS IS ANNOYING!!!!!!!!! 17:13 BlockMen thexyz, could you upload a project-folder for vs? 17:13 BlockMen maybe it could work that way? 17:13 Jordach jesus upgrading apt-get is a pain 17:14 thexyz later, not at home right now 17:14 * Kacey is attempting to not rage because of this 17:15 Kacey how do i take a screenshot in windows? 17:17 rubenwardy thanks sfan5 :) 17:18 BlockMen thexyz,ok thank you in advance! 17:18 BlockMen kacey, F12 17:18 BlockMen or press "PRINT" 17:18 BlockMen but then it is just in clipboard 17:19 Kacey no not in minetest but of my screen at anytime 17:19 rubenwardy Kacey: http://www.roundpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Print-Screen-Button.jpg 17:19 BlockMen then "PRINT" and you can copy from clipboard then 17:21 Kacey i have hit that button. it doesnt work on 8 17:22 rubenwardy You then have to paste it into a photo editer 17:22 rubenwardy It does not save it, only copies it 17:23 Kacey can someone help me finish this project? 17:23 rubenwardy what is it? 17:23 BlockMen http://www.howtogeek.com/122181/how-to-take-a-screenshot-in-windows-8-with-no-extra-software/ 17:24 Kacey a 4-bit decoder to 7-segment display using digilines 17:25 BlockMen i g2g...bye everyone 17:25 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/common: Add copper and bronze c82c74898e 2013-03-28T09:50:08-07:00 http://git.io/N-Xbdw 17:26 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaHd4aw/Screenshot%20(2).png there 17:27 Kacey what is wrong with my code? 17:27 Zeg9 0mpldr is currently unreachable :/ 17:28 PilzAdam Zeg9, works for me 17:28 Zeg9 :/ 17:28 Kacey http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ we should use ruby instead of lua for mesecons 17:28 Kacey rubycontrollers 17:28 Kacey not luacontrollers 17:28 Jeija Good idea, Kacey; You should implement a ruby parser in lua! 17:29 Kacey ... 17:29 Exio hahahaha 17:29 Exio ruby 17:29 Jordach Y U NO USE PYTHON 17:29 Kacey ican barely get digilines to work but ill put that on the back burner 17:29 Exio python and ruby 17:29 Exio OOP 17:30 * rubenwardy commited to rubenwardy/food: "Texture fixes and mod support fixes" http://tinyurl.com/fdverpush 17:31 Exio lol 17:32 Kacey ooh this would be cool to have... 17:32 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Add aliases for moreores' copper and bronze items 3db7bafb39 2013-03-28T10:31:41-07:00 http://git.io/nmr6hg 17:33 Kacey im learning ruby 17:36 khonkhortisan Kacey, don't use parentheses except in the condition. Then-end is good enough for surrounding the statement(s). 17:37 Kacey ? 17:37 khonkhortisan if (condition) then statement end 17:37 khonkhortisan not if (condition) then (statement) end 17:39 Kacey aah i see now 17:39 khonkhortisan "if mem.a1 = false" sets it to false 17:40 khonkhortisan and returns false, I think 17:41 Kacey so "if mem.a1 == false ..." 17:43 Kacey here khonkhortisan join my server 17:43 khonkhortisan Yes. And that actually doesn't need parantheses between ands 17:43 khonkhortisan I would but I'm leaving soon 17:44 Kacey i was keeping it neat 17:44 Exio install drracket Kacey 17:44 Kacey ? 17:44 Exio http://racket-lang.org/ 17:45 Exio http://docs.racket-lang.org/drracket/ 17:45 Kacey no no 17:46 Kacey would a ruby-lua interpreter work Jeija? 17:47 Kacey call lua from ruby 17:47 rubenwardy (5:28:53 PM) Jeija: Good idea, Kacey; You should implement a ruby parser in lua! 17:47 rubenwardy sarcasm ^^^ 17:47 Exio Kacey: the stuff is already slow, if you want to need 10 minutes for loading 10 lines of ruby in MT 17:49 * Kacey wants rubycontrollers 17:50 Exio meh 17:50 Kacey they would be easy 17:50 Kacey to program 17:50 Exio lua is already easy 17:50 Kacey once implemented 17:50 Kacey O.o 17:50 Exio ruby is shit for programming simple things 17:50 Kacey not for me 17:50 Exio layer 8 problem. 17:50 Kacey i am bad with lua 17:51 Exio learn it properly 17:51 * v2px too wants rubycontrollers 17:51 * v2px doesn't like lua 17:51 Exio people wants OOP for small things 17:51 Exio what is next, java? 17:51 rubenwardy someone stop Hybrid Dog from posting 17:51 v2px no. the next logical step from oop is not java 17:53 Exio just saying 17:53 PilzAdam sfan5, spam: http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=3419 17:53 Exio OOP is not for small things, it just makes shitty code 17:55 sfan5 time to ban hybrid dog for spamming 17:55 * Kacey has rage quit his project 17:56 rubenwardy he means well, but he is wrong 17:57 * Jordach finally managed to VNC into my vps 17:58 PilzAdam sfan5, dont ban him, just send a warning 17:58 sfan5 ok 17:58 sfan5 Jordach: your vps has a gui? 17:59 Jordach sfan5, no 17:59 Jordach debian6 17:59 sfan5 then how vnc? 17:59 Jordach i had to install xfce manually 18:00 sfan5 why do you install a x system on a vps? 18:01 Jordach sfan5, because i hate working with terminals 18:01 Exio because 1337ness 18:01 Exio and you love wasting resources 18:01 Infinity_69 hi 18:01 Exio just throwing cpu power, what is already limited, in virtualized hardware 18:01 Jordach once i've compiled everything and installed mods, it'll be cmd 18:01 Jordach just doing the hard part in a gui as its easier 18:02 Exio ah, 'kay 18:02 Jordach my VPS has a decent cpu, make -j2 compiles in about 2 mins 18:03 Exio just need to think having more stuff == less players what the server can handle :P 18:03 Exio more stuff running* 18:03 Jordach Things to do: install homedecor, moreblocks, moreores 18:03 bas080 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/419967/Dualport/Screenshot%20-%2003282013%20-%2007%3A02%3A05%20PM.png 18:04 PilzAdam Jordach, dont install morores until Calinou removes gold, bronze and copper from it with latest git 18:04 Jordach FFS 18:04 Jordach not to mention homedecor needs an update 18:04 Jordach (that also uses moreores) 18:05 Jordach Exio, according to my usage, im using 50% of my allotted 128mb 18:05 Jordach this is free btw 18:05 bas080 Why are these materials being removed?! :( 18:06 bas080 from moreores? 18:06 Jordach VanessaE, i managed to install x server, xfce4 and minetest on a 128mb ram vps 18:06 Exio wait wait wait 18:06 Exio 128mb of ram for a .. mt server? 18:06 Jordach Exio, me PilzAdam and RealBadAngel were on it earlier 18:06 Jordach the lag was about 0.035 rtt 18:06 Exio bas080: because they are now on default 18:06 Exio wow, nice 18:07 Jordach (europe hosted) 18:07 Jordach http://host1free.com 18:07 Exio so, the only thing what uses a damn ammount of ram is the client? 18:07 Jordach there 18:07 Exio oh, those? 18:07 Exio i know them 18:07 Jordach Exio, free tier is pretty goofd 18:07 Jordach good* 18:09 * VanessaE peeksin 18:09 rubenwardy Jordach: I use http://serversfree.com 18:10 rubenwardy oh wait, it is a vps 18:11 Jordach hey VanessaE 18:12 * Calinou received their PSU :p 18:12 Calinou hi 18:12 Exio what PSU Calinou? 18:14 Jordach VanessaE, taste the rainbow 18:14 Calinou antec HCG 520 18:14 Calinou inb4 seasonic is butter :P 18:14 VanessaE meh 18:15 rubenwardy I can not believe this is so popular: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/susanwilson/9-year-old-building-an-rpg-to-prove-her-brothers-w?ref=users 18:15 rubenwardy they will never get a game 18:15 Calinou sfan5: your bot now has a cool avatar :P 18:16 sfan5 :D 18:16 Calinou (it's the red eclipse bot icon) 18:16 Calinou and a title :P 18:17 sfan5 ...a title 18:17 Calinou first member to have a custom title :P 18:17 VanessaE Calinou: well, I guess you better talk nekogloop into absorbing mithril and tin into glooptest ... 18:17 VanessaE looks like they aren't gonna make it to upstream 18:17 Jordach Calinou, i want a special title now 18:17 Jordach :( 18:18 rubenwardy There should be a "Core Developer" title 18:18 Jordach and respectable member 18:18 sfan5 Jordach: your title is now "The one that installed XFCE on a VPS" 18:18 Calinou don't touch titles too much :P 18:18 Jordach sfan5, that's still awesome 18:18 sfan5 why did my brain insert "that" instead of "who" 18:19 Kacey VanessaE, i had a great idea earlier 18:19 Calinou Jordach: what about "unrespectable member" 18:19 sfan5 haha 18:19 VanessaE hm? 18:19 Jordach Calinou, save that for landmine 18:19 Calinou just "Land Mine" 18:20 Kacey rubycontrollers 18:20 VanessaE rubycontroller? er... 18:21 VanessaE you wanna make a Ruby interpreter in Lua? ;) 18:22 Kacey im looking one up now 18:22 sfan5 yo! make a ruby interpreter in brainfuck which is interpreted by a lua brainfuck interpreter which's code is interpreted by a c program, that runs in a virtual machine emulated using JavaScript( http://bellard.org/jslinux ) 18:23 Kacey since lua is not where i am good 18:24 hmmmm yo dawg 18:24 hmmmm i heard yo and yo dawg like yo yos 18:24 hmmmm so i put yo dawg in a yo yo so yo can yo yo yo dawg while yo dawg yo yos, yo 18:25 sfan5 yo 18:25 VanessaE hmmmm: kaeza already beat you to that one last night :) 18:25 hmmmm meh. 18:26 Jordach how do i force minetest server to read the minetest.conf 18:26 rubenwardy restart? 18:26 Jordach PilzAdam, read my last msg 18:26 markveidemanis smth like auth_reload 18:27 Jordach markveidemanis, wrong 18:27 PilzAdam Jordach, restart 18:27 markveidemanis i said LIKE auth_reload 18:27 markveidemanis conf_reload 18:28 markveidemanis PING :hobana.freenode.net UH-OH 18:28 markveidemanis PING TIMEOUT? 18:30 sfan5 you need to answer pings or freenode will disconnect you because you didn't answer 18:31 Calinou there is no /conf_reload 18:31 Jordach !up 94.249.210.106 18:31 MinetestBot 94.249.210.106:30000 is up (0.137ms) 18:32 Jordach 94.249.210.106 : 30000 is my server 18:34 Calinou !up Jordach 18:34 MinetestBot Calinou: Invalid Address 18:34 Jordach ~sex Calinou 18:35 * Calinou needs more alcohol first 18:35 us_0gb Sex? Perhaps I came at a bad time. 18:36 markveidemanis LOL 18:37 Jordach its a Red Eclipse bot thing 18:37 Jordach ~sex Calinou 18:37 Jordach * redroid grabs archfarker and puts Calinou's mouth on their.............. 18:37 Calinou us_0gb: that's what she said 18:37 Calinou "They've said it a total of 2999 times" 18:37 Calinou ^ what redroid says when you say that's what (anything) said :P 18:37 Jordach anyways, lets see how much my free server can take 18:38 Jordach i have a lag of 0.027 18:44 rubenwardy ./Jordach --annoy Calinou 18:44 Jordach hey Calinou your tower suck ass 18:45 Calinou tower sucks for duel, longestyard is better 18:46 Jordach Calinou, instagib, duel, medieval ftw 18:48 Calinou more like expert-resize-survivor-kaboom-jetpack-multi-quick defend-the-flag on warp 18:49 Jordach \O/ 18:54 mauvebic ok... half the forum's threads have been bumped by some stupid bot 18:55 Exio blame sfan5 18:55 Exio (-bot) 18:55 sfan5 mauvebic: i can't post to topics without bumping them 18:56 mauvebic your bot is bumping all the topics without adding any new content, very misleading 18:56 mauvebic and we are all (unpaid) people here, dont expect them to take orders from bots 18:57 rubenwardy sfan5: admins can silent post? 18:57 mauvebic get enough of that crap from work honestly 18:57 sfan5 rubenwardy: theres a silent post feature in punbb? 18:58 sfan5 mauvebic: its not an order, its to clean up the mod releases forum 18:59 sfan5 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79537#p79537 <- no shit sherlock! 19:00 mauvebic well whats the point of having moderators if the job is done by an (impersonal) bot? 19:01 mauvebic i much preferred when the output of said bot was focused to *one* thread 19:02 mauvebic and it wont be long before everyone else uses bots for SEo 19:04 mauvebic and tbh, the bot is incredibly dumb, i do have mod tags in all my thread titles and if 'No Dependencies Found' then that means there are no dependencies 19:05 mauvebic whats the python equiv of string.find(title, '[mod]') ? 19:05 rubenwardy sfan5: I might just be silent edit 19:05 rubenwardy *it 19:05 sfan5 every rank >= moderator can silent edit 19:05 Jordach apparently goddammit is in the xfce dictionary 19:06 Jordach my server is online! 19:06 Jordach !up 94.249.210.106 19:06 MinetestBot 94.249.210.106:30000 is up (0.119ms) 19:09 hmmmm it checked that in about a tenth of a millisecond? 19:09 hmmmm jeez 19:09 hmmmm they must be in the same datacenter 19:10 Jordach hmmmm, come visit 19:11 Exio !up minetest.org 19:11 MinetestBot minetest.org:30000 is up (0.360ms) 19:11 Exio woo 19:16 hmmmm http://i.imgur.com/Q3b9a7j.jpg 19:17 Jordach hmmmm, classic 19:29 sfan5 !up localhost-ipv6 19:29 MinetestBot sfan5: Invalid Address 19:30 sfan5 :( 19:30 sfan5 !up ::1 19:30 MinetestBot sfan5: Invalid Address 19:30 Jordach sfan5, finally, just used screen to keep my server running when im not there 19:48 Jordach PilzAdam, is there other versions of ore_type = "scatter"; 19:49 sfan5 "this banner gave me cancer: http://i.imgur.com/edT39ol.png" 19:50 PilzAdam Jordach, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L375 19:50 Jordach sfan5, youve been oddly chatty today 19:51 sfan5 is that a problem? 19:51 Jordach nope 19:51 sfan5 its just: i had more free time for minetest today 19:56 rubenwardy bye all 19:57 celeron55 v2px: i managed to make launchpad build 0.4.5 packages 19:57 celeron55 v2px: you may want to try if they work or not 19:58 celeron55 (i'm not running anything capable of using those packages) 19:59 sfan5 i could also test them 20:06 us_0gb PilzAdam: Okay, I fixed the itemstack-returning issue in my pull request. 20:06 PilzAdam saw it 20:06 us_0gb Okay. I'm out then. Later, folks! 20:10 Jordach people try 20:10 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk 20:10 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 seems to be down 20:10 Jordach bitch 20:11 Jordach (it did just get registered, so dns probably wont be fixed for some time) 20:11 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk 20:12 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 seems to be down 20:12 Jordach :( 20:12 Jordach http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-280313-201215.php 20:12 Jordach ^ proof 20:13 sfan5 !up jordachscity.tk 20:13 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 seems to be down 20:14 Jordach see zimage.com image i just uploaded 20:14 us_0gb It turns out I don't have to go after all. 20:14 sfan5 doesn't work 20:14 Jordach us_0gb, try host1free for a vps 20:15 Jordach sfan5, give it some time 20:16 us_0gb Jordach, okay, bookmarked. 20:16 Jordach us_0gb, im currently running one on 94.249.210.106 20:16 us_0gb 2GiB disk space. I'm almost at that limit. 20:17 us_0gb I was at 1.5 GiB, last I checked. 20:17 Jordach so thats why your server went down? 20:17 us_0gb No. 20:18 us_0gb My server keeps going down because the operating system doesn't like the network interface card. 20:18 us_0gb Or something along those lines. 20:18 Jordach us_0gb, eth0 or wifi 20:18 us_0gb eth0. 20:18 sfan5 a vps NEVER uses wifi 20:18 Jordach mines a sis 600 @ 100mb 20:19 us_0gb I don't use wifi either. 20:21 Jordach us_0gb, happy that you now have a infinite lava source 20:23 us_0gb No, because I still don't have it. 20:23 us_0gb He won't move it to common, where we can use it in custom games. 20:23 LAD ... does any one know where the code for default time when spawning into a world? 20:23 Jordach i was hinting at the custom gamemode 20:24 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk 20:24 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.260ms) 20:24 Jordach WOOT 20:24 Jordach IT LIVES 20:24 Jordach sfan5, ^^ 20:24 sfan5 :D 20:25 ShadowNinja OldCoder: use sasl :-) 20:25 LAD ... 20:25 LAD hmmm i feel icnored again :( 20:25 OldCoder ShadowNinja, Explain in PM; interested 20:25 OldCoder LAD hello 20:26 LAD hia 20:27 Jordach OldCoder, managed to setup my own server today 20:27 OldCoder Good! 20:27 LAD :) good job Jordach :) 20:27 Jordach at jordachscity.tk 20:28 Jordach OldCoder, its debian 6 20:28 LAD does any one know where the default time is coded into minetest? 20:28 Jordach and yes, i had to install vnc4server and use xfce to do work 20:28 Jordach LAD, no idea, but why? 20:28 OldCoder Jordach, sounds like progress 20:29 Jordach sfan5, y u remove my title 20:29 LAD ... 20:29 LAD im trying to help moontest and they need it be night all the time 20:29 LAD i know how to stop time 20:29 Jordach LAD, time_speed = 0, /time 0 20:29 LAD time_speed = 0 20:29 LAD i know 20:29 sfan5 Jordach: i didn't remove your title7 20:29 sfan5 -7 20:29 LAD but... 20:29 * Jordach slaps VanessaE 20:30 LAD the default minetest game will spawn you in the day time not at night and that's what im trying to figer out 20:31 bdjnk set_timeofday(val) ? 20:31 bdjnk http://dev.minetest.net/EnvRef:get_meta 20:32 v2px celeron55: seems to work just fine. thanks a lot! 20:32 VanessaE ow. 20:32 * VanessaE falls over, dead. 20:32 LAD set_timeofday(val) ? does that work ?? i dont think you can just make your own thing up 20:32 Jordach did you change my title 20:33 VanessaE title? 20:33 bdjnk LAD: make it up? check link to dev docs ^^ 20:34 Jordach server down for a few 20:34 LAD i have i;ve cheked ever line readible with nootpad++ 20:36 LAD hmmi would ask c55 but he kinda scares me :) 20:38 LAD but eh what ever... 20:43 sfan5 Jordach: its pretty dark on your server: http://sfan5.dyndns.org/movie.mov 20:44 Jordach OH DEAR GOD 20:44 Jordach http://bdcraft.net/download-bdcraft-texturepacks#testbdcraft 20:44 PilzAdam woot 20:44 Jordach thexyz, is servers.minetest.ru dynamic? 20:45 sfan5 !server 20:45 sfan5 yay 20:45 MinetestBot sfan5: NotObamaLand | zenoheld.minetest.net:30000 up (43.492%) 20:49 LAD !server 20:49 LAD hmmm 20:49 MinetestBot LAD: Mrtux's Minetest server | minetest.org:30001 up (74.385%) 20:49 LAD wait 20:49 LAD is it random? 20:49 LAD !server 20:50 MinetestBot LAD: D-L-K Networks GameServer | game.d-l-k.net:30000 up (99.375%) 20:50 mrtux seems ramdom 20:50 sfan5 LAD: yes 20:50 mrtux *random 20:50 Jordach as in, the master server list 20:56 Jordach SHIT 20:56 Jordach OH SHIT 20:56 Jordach TWO PLAYERS HAVE THE ENTITY BUG 20:59 BlockMen hi 20:59 Jordach hey BlockMen 20:59 BlockMen is Traxie21 up here? 21:00 BlockMen and how doin, Jordach? 21:01 us_0gb Hello. 21:01 Jordach BlockMen, alright, just setup my own server 21:01 BlockMen oh, nice 21:01 BlockMen where i find? 21:01 Jordach jordachscity.tk 21:01 BlockMen 30000? 21:01 Jordach yes 21:01 BlockMen and hi 0gb 21:02 BlockMen Jordach, will try out 21:02 Jordach its on the most cheap ass vpn there can be: FREE 21:02 BlockMen i like free :) 21:03 BlockMen Jordach, "Couldn't resolve adress" 21:03 artur99 hi 21:04 Jordach 94.249.210.106 21:04 Jordach try that 21:04 BlockMen that works 21:04 artur99 Open command prompt by going in the Minetest installation folder, then in the "bin" folder, hold Shift, do a right click on a empty file (not on minetest.exe), click "Open command window here". 21:04 artur99 I cant see "Open command window here" 21:05 v2px yeah then open a terminal and cd to the minetest dir 21:05 artur99 im on windows 21:05 v2px oh okay 21:05 v2px don't know then. I havend used windows since XP 21:05 Jordach artur99, i have a bat script that opens the current folder in cmd 21:06 artur99 where to download it? 21:07 Jordach https://github.com/iamgreaser/buldthensnip/raw/master/opencmd.bat 21:08 artur99 should i write this: E:\Minetest\minetest-0.4.5\bin\libvorbisfile.dll ? 21:10 Jordach artur99, .dll files are only written by compiled programs and not MD 21:10 Jordach CMD 21:11 artur99 and how to do that? 21:11 Jordach google it 21:12 artur99 empty file means a .txt empty file? 21:12 artur99 and what name? 21:12 jordan4ibanez I have the most excellent idea 21:13 jordan4ibanez what if we take that weather branch 21:13 jordan4ibanez have it so that instead of clouds, the sky turns grey, the sun and moon turn off, and it rains in desert and regular biomes, and snows in hill biomes 21:14 jordan4ibanez change it so that it only snows and rains within a radius of the player's client...say view_distance/3 21:14 jordan4ibanez and if anybody has anything to improve on that awesome 21:15 jordan4ibanez and the weather is controlled by the server 21:15 artur99 America will really atack the North Korea? 21:16 jordan4ibanez wtf happened to sfan5's bot 21:16 jordan4ibanez http://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?id=11 21:16 jordan4ibanez holy crap 21:23 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: thats called "the power of /usr/bin/python2.7" 21:24 jordan4ibanez it's called it's spamming 21:24 jordan4ibanez !!1!!!one! 21:24 jordan4ibanez ban the bawt! 21:24 mauvebic +1 21:33 Jordach hey NekoGloop 21:34 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Jordach's head 21:34 Jordach NekoGloop, i got a server going 21:35 NekoGloop cool story bro 21:35 Jordach jordachscity.tk : 30000 21:35 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk 21:36 Jordach wheres minetestbot 21:36 Jordach sfan5, ^ 21:38 Jordach hey dante123 21:38 Jordach BlockMen, http://host1free.com 21:39 BlockMen thx, Jordach 21:42 jordan4ibanez can you host a minetest server on there? 21:42 Jordach jordan4ibanez, thats what jordachscity.tk is powered by 21:42 jordan4ibanez it's FREE?! 21:42 jordan4ibanez FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 21:42 Jordach yes 21:42 Jordach FREEEE 21:43 jordan4ibanez Sounds like a virus 21:43 jordan4ibanez pics or no proof 21:44 artur99 can i set width and height in a post for a image 21:44 artur99 ? 21:44 Jordach jordan4ibanez, http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-280313-214419.php 21:44 jordan4ibanez sfan5 http://youtu.be/7a7opPCSfnM 21:44 Tecan (7a7opPCSfnM) "Let's Swear Minecraft mit Gronkh :: Teil 2, Folge #101 bis #199" by "yetanothertubeuser" is "Entertainment" - Length: 0:11:53 21:45 jordan4ibanez But how do I know you're really a jordach? 21:45 Jordach because i have a cloak 21:45 artur99 can i set width and height in a post for a image? 21:45 artur99 on forum? 21:45 jordan4ibanez Oh okay 21:45 jordan4ibanez But spyhunter 21:45 jordan4ibanez SPYHUNTER 21:46 Jordach PilzAdam, youre the Bear Grylls of Minetest 21:47 Jordach jordan4ibanez, open up putty and ssh to my server 21:47 jordan4ibanez I'd rather not get @ vir|_|z 21:47 jordan4ibanez So how do I set this poop up 21:47 Jordach jordan4ibanez, they use linux, why would they? 21:48 jordan4ibanez If they use linux, why are they making me install windows software 21:48 Jordach jordan4ibanez, AdBlock FTW 21:48 jordan4ibanez Oh wow 21:48 jordan4ibanez I'm a derpin today 21:49 Kacey do we have a link reader again? 21:49 Kacey http://forum.minetest.net/ 21:49 Kacey http://youtu.be/7a7opPCSfnM 21:50 PilzAdam Kacey, gronkh :-) 21:51 jordan4ibanez Sorry, but we think you are bot. You cant post message on this forum. 21:51 jordan4ibanez You are right. I am bot. 21:52 jordan4ibanez The english with that needs to be updated a little lol 21:53 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/comment?lc=XPtWx-wU0YgtEJX7zPeuRhgDY_uasVnsM29NDC9bDd4 21:53 BlockMen PilzAdam, what is with gronkh? 21:53 artur99 Thanks for help >--< 21:54 PilzAdam BlockMen, nothing except that hes the best LetsPlayer ever 21:54 BlockMen agree. thats how i get known minecraft 21:54 BlockMen and then minetest 21:55 BlockMen he should make a Let's Test of Minetest :D 21:58 jordan4ibanez excess flood lunavorax? spammer mcjammer! 21:59 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: why did you "send" me that video? 21:59 jordan4ibanez Because, there is no reason 21:59 BrandonReese Jordach, can I have interact privs on your new server? 22:00 jordan4ibanez jordach left dude 22:01 BrandonReese jordan4ibanez, you are correct, I suppose I should pay attantion to the exit messages when looking back at the conversation 22:20 Jordach im back 22:20 * Jordach pokes BlockMen 22:22 jordan4ibanez jordach 22:22 Jordach yes 22:22 jordan4ibanez how do you ssh to your server? 22:23 jordan4ibanez I'm trying it but it's denying me access 22:23 Jordach jordan4ibanez, install putty 22:23 jordan4ibanez did 22:23 jordan4ibanez port 22 22:23 jordan4ibanez infinityserver.luporz.com 22:23 jordan4ibanez root login fails 22:23 Jordach goto the web admin panel 22:23 jordan4ibanez tell me in pm 22:23 Jordach alright 22:35 BlockMen Jordach,sry..was kinda away 22:36 BlockMen wb 22:40 jordan4ibanez wait a second 22:40 jordan4ibanez the rain and snow mod 22:40 jordan4ibanez that can be improved! 22:40 jordan4ibanez air can be mapgen aliased to weather block 22:41 jordan4ibanez weather block can be an abm, if there is a block above it, it becomes air 22:41 jordan4ibanez if there is air above a weather block it becomes air 22:41 jordan4ibanez it doesn't have to be an abm, but called on_block_update or something 22:44 Jordach BlockMen, nice place 22:46 BlockMen Jordach, not finished yet 22:47 Jordach cool 22:47 NekoGloop how does one connect to your server? 22:48 Jordach NekoGloop, jordachscity.tk 22:49 Jordach NekoGloop, what did you just do 22:49 NekoGloop client switch 22:50 Jordach ahhh 22:50 NekoGloop which fucking one do i need 22:50 Jordach latest git 22:50 Jordach hey rarkenin 22:50 rarkenin Hi. 22:51 BlockMen im playing with 0.4.5 and it works fine 22:51 rarkenin I'm in another window, but I'll hear if someone mentions me. 22:51 rarkenin Can I get some feedback on my new meshes? 22:51 Jordach rarkenin, id add them to my creative server but 22:51 rarkenin They're not ready for adding yet. 22:51 ShadowNinja sfan5: /mode +v-o MinetestBot sfan5 22:52 ShadowNinja or better yet /msg chanserv flags #minetest MinetestBot +V 22:53 rarkenin Jordach: What are the problems keeping you from adding them? I'm just trying to find out how much more work is necessary. 22:54 BlockMen ok, i'm going now 22:54 BlockMen could someone tell Traxie21 (if comes on) that doors can be updated on server? thx in advice 22:55 BlockMen bye everyone 22:56 LAD ... 22:56 * LAD wounders how do you close one of you minetest topics? 22:57 Jordach LAD, thats a moderator's job 22:57 LAD ... 22:58 LAD TADA PROBLEM SOLVED THANKS MAN 22:58 LAD Minetest is so helpful (im not joking the comunitee is amazingly helpful)) 23:04 us_0gb Hmm? rarkenin wants us to mention him? 23:05 rarkenin No, if anyone needs me, I'll be notified. "mention" means to include a username in a chat message to get a user's attention. 23:05 us_0gb Yeah. I know. Ha ha. 23:06 us_0gb I was going to make several posts with your name to keep making your computer alert you, but decided once was enough. 23:07 rarkenin Does anyone want to collaborate on the mesh? 23:08 us_0gb It sounds like a nice project, but I suck at art of any form. 23:11 NekoGloop Jordach, here have a mandatory sagacic old guy's house 23:12 rarkenin I especially need people to do textures(jojoa1997, hint hint). 23:14 Jordach rarkenin, i do good texture 23:14 Jordach textures* 23:14 rarkenin OK. I'll finish up the mesh, upload it with the UV layout, and make it available to you. 23:14 rarkenin And forum mods around? 23:14 rarkenin any* 23:17 NekoGloop Jordach, would i be able to use that free VPS for a MC server? 23:17 Jordach probably 23:17 Jordach 128mb of ram wont work# 23:17 Jordach not to mention they are LINUX 23:18 NekoGloop ew ew ew 23:18 NekoGloop get it off, it BURRRRRRRRRRNS 23:18 NekoGloop 1GB ram is barely a playable server.. 23:20 us_0gb What's wrong with Linux? At least it isn't Windows .... 23:20 * Jordach high fives us_0gb 23:22 Jordach PilzAdam, add obsidian stairs and slasb 23:22 Jordach slabs* 23:22 PilzAdam no 23:23 Jordach and why not? 23:23 us_0gb Hmm. New ores in common. I could lazily start updatedevversion.sh, which will download and compile the whole thing in three clicks, or I could just update common, which would take more effort, but would be less load on the network .... 23:24 rarkenin us_0gb: I think a few minutes of extra lag won't hurt that much. 23:25 PilzAdam Jordach, slabs and stairs for every block isnt good 23:25 us_0gb I was actually worried more about the further out on the network. The download takes seconds, and the compile isn't on the same computer as the server. 23:26 us_0gb I actually wouldn't want stairs or slabs from the harder nodes, such as obsidian and mese. Just softer nodes, such as wood and stone. 23:27 us_0gb Now if you said obsidian GLASS stairs ... maybe that would be cool. 23:27 rarkenin Yes. There's more reason for glasslike-node stairs. 23:28 us_0gb Actually, that would be cool. I don't think it belongs in default, but it would be cool. 23:28 * us_0gb imagins replacing the stairs in the tunnel with glass stairs 23:29 rarkenin Glass can be melted down easily. At least by investing heat/fuel, we should have glass stairs. 23:29 mauvebic Wow: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/03/28/2146221/gnome-38-released-featuring-new-classic-mode?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter 23:30 jordan4ibanez Idea: big furnace, like crafting box, only it needs to be smelted to craft 23:30 us_0gb Well, I won't take a side on this. When I do take side, peopl jump down my throat, so I'll reserve taking sides for things I actually care about. 23:30 us_0gb *people 23:30 mauvebic people will jump down throats regardless :p 23:30 mauvebic or climb up arses, depending where youre from 23:31 us_0gb Mostly people leave me alone when I don't express an opinion. 23:31 us_0gb Of course, some topic are ALWAYS worth it. 23:31 mauvebic which ones? 23:33 rarkenin The ones 0gb_us has changed his profile pic or forum signature for. :P 23:33 us_0gb For example, anything having to do wit "Windows being good". Windows is the worst excuse for an operating system I have ever seen, and I won't sit back and listen to people say otherwise. 23:33 us_0gb *with 23:33 us_0gb Hmm? That would be two. I won the first, and lost the second. 23:33 mauvebic well lets not pretend linux is polished or apple is affordable either 23:34 mauvebic depends what you have patience for :p 23:34 mauvebic malware scanning or bash scripting lol 23:34 Jordach my server is updated with obsidian stairs 23:35 mauvebic or just plain being braindead (apple) lol 23:35 us_0gb Linux may be unpolished, but it still runs way better than Windows. OS X is certainly expensive, and you are required to use Apple hardware, but it's worth it. And if you don't have money for Apple, there's BSD, Linux, and others for free. 23:36 mauvebic i guess when it comes to OS's i dont get involved, theyve all been frustrating experiences (the OSs) at one time or another lol 23:36 mauvebic though when ubuntu went fisher-price i thought it was the end of easy/usable linux lol thank god for arch 23:37 us_0gb I had to switch to Linux because Apple won't let me install OS X on my own hardware. I ended up liking Linux better, but I understand the "don't have Apple hardware" thing. 23:37 jordan4ibanez ubuntu's good if you want an easy os 23:37 jordan4ibanez every os has problems 23:37 us_0gb When I tried Ubuntu, I was satisfied to not have to use Windows. But then it dawned on me that it was free, and I could try something else. 23:38 rarkenin Lol: http://i.imgur.com/TKCBfGF.png 23:38 us_0gb I switched to Mint. Then I learned I could use Ubuntu without Unity, so I went back to Ubuntu. 23:38 us_0gb Now I'm considering Debian. 23:38 mauvebic alot of people do find arch frustrating - but those are the kinds of people that install/uninstall shit all day long for giggles and flash all the eye candy - arch is for getting work done lol 23:38 rarkenin Oops, may have mispasted. http://imgur.com/TKCBfGF 23:38 rarkenin Oh, wait, no 23:38 us_0gb "bettar"? 23:39 us_0gb "chek"? 23:39 us_0gb ... 23:39 us_0gb Is that from your browser, or did you find that image? 23:39 rarkenin That is from my browser. 23:40 mauvebic debian is almost as bloated as ubuntu, and in my experience, the binary drivers were even slower/worse 23:40 Jordach us_0gb, come to my server 23:40 Jordach i just made obsidian glass stairs 23:40 us_0gb Hmm. Well, there are a lot for me to try yet. I want to try a fairly large selection of operating systems when I have time. 23:41 mauvebic if i had to switch away for whatever reason, id try slack before suse or gentoo 23:41 us_0gb Jordache, is your server announced? If not, address/port? 23:41 Jordach jordachscity.tk 23:42 us_0gb It won't load. Starting second client. 23:43 us_0gb I can't resolve that address. 23:44 Jordach not everyones dns server knows of it fully 23:45 us_0gb That's okay. Is the one in the server list the right one? It has an IP address instead, so name resolution won't be an issue. 23:45 us_0gb And ... I can fly. I hope that's intentional. 23:46 us_0gb And ... I lost conection. 23:46 Jordach us_0gb, i killed it to add some mods 23:46 us_0gb My client is incompatible, it seems. 23:48 Jordach us_0gb, you require latest git 23:48 us_0gb Ah. I have that, but haven't linked it in my menu yet, so I usually use the stable client. 23:49 Jordach it was the only version i could pull in a hurry 23:50 us_0gb GAH! It's the annoying version of fences. It LOOKS like you can jump over them, but you can't. 23:50 Jordach shift jump them, 23:50 mauvebic what about water? can practically bounce 10m high bouncing off it lol 23:50 mauvebic *bounce, bouncing lol 23:51 us_0gb I figgured out how to bypass it with shift a while back, plus I seem to have fly, I just don't know why people love that version of fences so much. They are bothersome at best. 23:51 mauvebic not to mention most (healthy) people can jump fences several meters high 23:52 mauvebic i dont think 1m high wood post fences are meant to keep people out so much as keep farm animals in lol 23:52 rarkenin mauvebic: As in jump, or climb over at a slower pace? 23:52 rarkenin I'd love to see someone jump over a fence 1.5 times their height. 23:52 mauvebic dunno how long it takes you lol 23:52 us_0gb The glass stairs look funny at certain angles. Without a custom image, I don't know how that would be fixable though. 23:53 mauvebic but yeah around 14~16yrs i could get over tall fences pretty quick 23:53 rarkenin I can climb over a prety high fence, but jumping over one that is appreciably greater than 1.5 meters is hard. 23:53 mauvebic but 1m high? 23:53 mauvebic get real lol 23:53 rarkenin Yeah, a meter is easy. 23:54 mauvebic well unless they make minetest fences two nodes high, you should be able to jump over them 23:54 rarkenin And it's not like I jump over hurdles competitively. 23:54 rarkenin But the client should allow "rockclimbing" on nodes that specify it. 23:54 mauvebic well no but we used to go for swims at night during heatwaves, city had awesome pools 23:54 us_0gb Yeah. If they were two nodes high, it would be fine, because it would be OBVIOUS that they were not jumpable. 23:54 rarkenin Being in upstate New York is better. Lakes aren't overchlorinated. 23:55 rarkenin Like, I swim competitively, and I STILL can't get over the chlorine irritation. But that's beside the point. 23:55 mauvebic i dont wanna know what they dump into lakes/rivers tho lol 23:56 Jordach us_0gb, do you want building privs 23:56 rarkenin Depends on the river/lake. This small lake that is a good jog from my house is actually realy clean and serene. 23:56 mauvebic dunno, 1 node high definately jumpable lol i made wrought-iron fences that high for my wifes gardens 23:56 rarkenin The river a mile from me, a whole other story. But we are getting off-topic. 23:56 rarkenin And yeah, these fences should be jumpable, and taller ones at least climbable. 23:57 us_0gb There's a small section of the railing missing at the top of this tower. And I didn't do it, I lack interact. 23:57 mauvebic the river nearest me had a mobster captain assasinated in it last year lol 23:57 rarkenin What city? 23:58 us_0gb I wasn't asking for interact. I was just proving my lack of guilt. 23:58 mauvebic http://www.cjad.com/CJADLocalNews/entry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10523206 23:58 mauvebic only mention cuz it was in the news this week lol 23:59 rarkenin Ah, I see, 23:59 mauvebic Sal (The Ironworker) Montagna, a former head of New York's notorious Bonanno crime family. 23:59 mauvebic so he's from your area :p