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00:00 PilzAdam Taoki, what bout set_bone_position("", {x=0,y=0,z=0}, {x=0,y=0,z=0}) ?
00:00 sokomine a function to change the terrain and place buildings there regardless of weather the area is loaded or not would be really great
00:00 Taoki PilzAdam: That sounds correct. With the object ref too of course
00:00 Uberi definitely
00:01 PilzAdam Taoki, no, what is the right param list for set_bone_position?
00:01 Taoki PilzAdam: Sadly I'm very bad at Lua currently. Only remembered when I actually tested those functions
00:01 sokomine as for carts..hm...if they're unmanned, a master might just calculate where they are and let them appear when players approach...in the default game, there's usually only fast on servers, so your players will be running around and loading lots of areas just to get to those very same places (even though they might prefer beaming if that where available)
00:02 Taoki Position and rotation are vectors though
00:02 Uberi sokomine: not really, the carts must follow the tracks
00:02 Taoki I think {x=0,y=0,z=0} was it
00:05 PilzAdam Taoki, https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/5259321
00:07 Taoki PilzAdam: That looks correct yes
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00:10 kaeza hai Dawg
00:10 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Fix parameter list of obj:set_attach() and obj:set_bone_position() a782a88913 2013-03-27T17:09:01-07:00 http://git.io/NvZK9Q
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00:13 sokomine the position of the tracks could be calculated once
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00:15 jordan4ibanez the /clearobjects command has got to be reworked for item drops only >.<
00:16 jordan4ibanez and then a /killall or /clearmobs command would be fore mobs
00:18 jordan4ibanez I just realized that sapier said my slimes were buggier than his mob api xD
00:24 PilzAdam bye
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00:26 Kacey sorry i had to go afk there
00:28 Uberi|Away hey thanks PilzAdam + Taoki
00:29 Taoki np
00:35 kaeza hey Kacey
00:36 kaeza Kacey, just for the record, IRC mod DOES NOT WORK ON WINDOWS
00:36 Kacey lol
00:37 jordan4ibanez 'zactl
00:37 jordan4ibanez 'zactly*
00:37 kaeza the only solution I see is that Minetest uses a shared Lua DLL, so both MT and the mod use the exact same lib
00:40 kaeza is anyone else having problems accessing the forum?
00:40 Uberi hold on kaeza
00:40 Uberi nope
00:41 kaeza it says "Oops! Google Chrome could not find forum.minetest.net" for me :(
00:41 Uberi kaeza: one moment
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00:42 Uberi what is the error?
00:42 sokomine can't we have a /msg command in mt? in *default*?
00:43 sokomine it is such a basic thing
00:43 Uberi sokomine: yeah I agree
00:43 Uberi I put it in Mesecons if that's any consolation though
00:43 kaeza meh... I'll try clearing the cache
00:44 sokomine sometimes you have small problems with a person and want to tell that person (who most likely hasn't noticed that it's a problem for you) and doing so in front of all other players is insulting
00:44 Uberi sokomine: if your server has mesecons, just use /say and /tell
00:44 sokomine so why don't we have that in defaultÃ?
00:44 Uberi well, nobody thought to add it
00:44 sokomine no, redcrabs server doesn't have :-(
00:44 Uberi aw
00:45 sokomine and mesecons is not the right place for it i'm afraid. it ought to be standard
00:45 Uberi yes I know
00:45 ShadowNinja Uberi: can you please change the /say command to something like /tellmyself so that you can send to the nearest player without hardcoding it in the commandblock?
00:45 Uberi ShadowNinja: I'm not sure what you mean
00:46 ShadowNinja And if you like I can make a pull request into builtin
00:46 Uberi that'd be lovely
00:46 ShadowNinja minetest.chat_send_player(name, param) basicaly
00:46 ShadowNinja so it says it to the berson that runs it
00:47 ShadowNinja s/berson/player/g
00:47 Uberi unless I'm misunderstanding, that's what tell does, ShadowNinja
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00:49 jordan4ibanez should I have slime breeding? I just made the slimes hostile until tamed
00:49 Uberi jordan4ibanez: you can tame slimes? awesome!
00:50 jordan4ibanez xD
00:50 ShadowNinja you are misunderstanding :-)
00:50 sokomine there is a mod for servers that has a msg command as well. but i relly think this ought to be called the same everywhere and be available on every server
00:50 * Uberi just got the 3D printer working in Mesecons
00:50 Uberi ShadowNinja: oh, you mean you want to hardcode the player name in the command?
00:50 jordan4ibanez You could sell 3d items from minetest uberi
00:50 ShadowNinja /tellme a message and
00:50 sokomine ah, in mesecons. thought you where talking about a real one
00:50 Uberi jordan4ibanez: haha, I meant in-game :)
00:50 ShadowNinja no, the oposite
00:50 sokomine shadowninja: tell*me*? why me?
00:50 Uberi with pistons and magic
00:51 Uberi ShadowNinja: oh so tell the creator of the command block?
00:51 ShadowNinja so that @nearest on a commandblock can be used
00:51 Uberi oh tell whoever it's being run on
00:51 ShadowNinja no, the person that runs the command
00:51 ShadowNinja exactly
00:51 Uberi ah I see now
00:51 * sokomine looks puzzled
00:51 sokomine what are you talking about now?
00:51 Uberi that was confusing :P
00:51 ShadowNinja should /msg require shout?
00:52 Uberi yeah I forgot about that
00:52 sokomine good question. if we have /ignore as well, there would be no need
00:52 NekoGloop no
00:52 NekoGloop /msg should not need shout
00:52 NekoGloop (then you could /msg an op for shout privs :P)
00:53 Uberi oh yeah, you're right
00:53 Uberi but we also need /ignore
00:53 NekoGloop yep
00:54 Uberi I'll implement these right after I finish building an enclosure for my 3D printer out of steel blocks
00:57 sokomine :-) fine
00:57 * sokomine hands uberi a few leftover steel blocks
00:57 * Uberi is playing in creative mode
00:58 * NekoGloop is playing in mindfuck mode
00:58 Uberi is that a new game or something
00:58 jordan4ibanez fak u nkuglupe
00:58 sokomine also a finger/seen command would be nice. how far that ought to go would be open to debate i think. the msg is much more important
00:58 Uberi what would that do sokomine?
00:58 sokomine tell you when a player was last online
00:59 Uberi hmm, nifty
00:59 sokomine the finger info might tell you how many blocks the player has modified
00:59 Uberi if you ask me that should be part of rollback
00:59 sokomine rollback...yes...that's another point. right now it is too slow. at least it works...
01:00 sokomine hope we'll get that to speed eventually
01:00 Uberi yeah
01:00 Uberi aw no
01:00 Uberi lava everywhere
01:00 sokomine right now i'm still busy with my villages/traders
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01:00 sokomine lava ought to be forbidden :-)
01:04 Uberi lava is needed to make the 3 cobble generators that feed the printer
01:04 Uberi unfortunately the ink is wool, a highly flammable substance :/
01:05 Uberi thank goodness for backup with dropbox
01:05 sokomine as long as it catches fire *after* you delivered the 3d object...
01:05 Uberi heheheh
01:07 ShadowNinja how should the ignore list be stored?
01:07 Uberi maybe in a player formspec?
01:08 ShadowNinja oh, and I have to save this too, this is getting more complex than I want it
01:08 jordan4ibanez Now I can make teh baby slimes :3
01:09 ShadowNinja how about I just make /msg require shout, at least for now
01:09 Uberi well as NekoGloop said you probably want to give players some way to communicate at first
01:10 ShadowNinja yes, but you can use a mod if you want something more advanced
01:10 Uberi true
01:10 NekoGloop signs
01:11 jordan4ibanez lol
01:11 jordan4ibanez I can imagine that
01:11 jordan4ibanez "Hey how are you doing" ~erase~ "Not too good we can only talk with these si" ~cut off~
01:13 Uberi aw yiss printed out a 2x2x2 object in 10 seconds
01:14 * jordan4ibanez highfives uberi
01:14 Uberi o/ * \o
01:15 jordan4ibanez WAIT! Baby slimes could grow larger by how much their timer is and when the visual size == 1 then they could transform into an adult slime!
01:15 Uberi gonna add /tellme now
01:15 Uberi jordan4ibanez: that is a nice idea
01:15 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdsRkhQUbZc
01:16 ShadowNinja I wish minetest.chat_send_player dodn't prepend Server -!-
01:16 Uberi me too
01:16 jordan4ibanez nekogloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLSIJVZAumI
01:17 jordan4ibanez shadowninja, how could it even be transfered to another client without the server? O.o
01:18 Uberi jordan4ibanez: ShadowNinja means when you use send_chat_player, the chat shows, "Server -!-" before your message
01:18 jordan4ibanez Ohhh, yeah that's very annoying
01:18 jordan4ibanez it's a simple c++ change too
01:18 VanessaE http://ifunny.mobi/#2XuMY26W  <-- /me looks at this, then checks her jar of peanut putter..  "Allergy Warning:  Contains peanuts"  WELL NO SHIT, SHERLOCK!!!
01:18 Uberi where is it? pull reqs are cheap :)
01:18 jordan4ibanez in server.cpp
01:19 jordan4ibanez I forgot what line, I changed it a long time ago
01:19 Uberi bwahahaha
01:19 ShadowNinja what should the message format be, it should be obvious that it is a private messsage
01:20 NekoGloop VanessaE, "Soy Sauce - May contain soybeans"
01:20 NekoGloop -may-?
01:20 VanessaE heh
01:20 Uberi NekoGloop: you can also make soy sauce from processed soylent green!
01:21 NekoGloop er, actually it just says may contain soy
01:21 NekoGloop If it doesn't contain soy... what the hell does it contain?
01:21 Uberi oops need to rebase
01:21 Uberi NekoGloop: well any salty black liquid, really
01:21 VanessaE well you better rebase if you're making soy sauce out of soylent green
01:22 VanessaE ;)
01:22 Uberi but it's so much cheaper!
01:22 ShadowNinja Uberi: what should the format be, it shouldn't just be <Playername> message as that looks too much like a normal message(as soon as Server -!- is removed)
01:22 Uberi ShadowNinja: redownload to get /tellme!
01:22 Uberi ShadowNinja: oh I just had it say the text directly
01:23 Uberi since it's meant for making custom maps and such
01:23 ShadowNinja well you want to know who to reply to/revoke shout from
01:23 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Add /tellme command to command block. 2cc38909a1 2013-03-27T18:21:44-07:00 http://git.io/P5e6ug
01:23 Uberi ShadowNinja: it doesn't apply, since /tellme only says it to yourself
01:24 ShadowNinja I mean for /msg
01:24 Uberi oh, hold on
01:25 Uberi I used (in mesecons) this format: %PLAYERNAME% whispers: %MESSAGE%
01:26 sokomine maybe like in irc: *playername* bla
01:27 sokomine or, better: Message from playername: bla
01:27 Uberi yeah that looks good
01:41 ShadowNinja Uberi: /msg added and pull requested
01:41 Uberi nice
01:42 VanessaE should be "Private message"
01:42 VanessaE imho.
01:42 VanessaE sorry for being late to the game there ;-)
01:42 kaeza http://ifunny.mobi/#I7uYV0Pc
01:43 ShadowNinja you mean Private message from player: message?
01:44 ShadowNinja that is getting terribly wordy
01:44 VanessaE kaeza: *shakes head*  sickening, isn't it?
01:44 kaeza :(
01:44 ShadowNinja even *Player* message would be good
01:44 VanessaE ShadowNinja: "Priv msg from XXXX: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit.."
01:44 VanessaE seems short enough to me
01:45 VanessaE or "Pvt msg"
01:45 kaeza and yet there's another one that says that "if you don't have debts, and $10 in your pocket, you have moremoney than 25% of americans"
01:45 ShadowNinja now you are just abreviating, I think message implies private
01:45 VanessaE too bad the game can't open a new tab for private msgs :)
01:45 VanessaE kaeza: seen it.  ikr?
01:45 VanessaE ShadowNinja: not really
01:45 Uberi or PM from PLAYER
01:45 Uberi "PM from singleplayer: hi"
01:45 VanessaE the concept of private message is pretty alien to MT players as it us
01:46 VanessaE Uberi: +`1
01:46 VanessaE +1
01:46 VanessaE as it is*
01:46 VanessaE sigh, typo correction FAIL
01:46 VanessaE :)
01:46 hmmmm you're implying that a debt means you don't have that money
01:47 hmmmm and equates to negative value on the person
01:47 hmmmm not so when debts can easily be forgiven, or disputed
01:47 hmmmm or entirely bogus
01:48 VanessaE I think the picture assumes legit, valid debt.
01:48 hmmmm you can also live your entire life without paying a debt
01:49 ShadowNinja VanessaE, Uberi: changed to PM from
01:49 Uberi OK
01:49 kaeza hmmmm, my point is, it sucks when there's people that must work 2/3 of the day to just make enough for food, while there are fucktards that have billions just for doing nothing
01:50 kaeza I'm no communist either
01:50 hmmmm it's okay to say that it sucks
01:51 hmmmm communists, however, see this as a problem that can be solved by removing incentive to produce
01:51 hmmmm ...which would only work in a world post-scarcity.
01:52 hmmmm i believe that communism is inevitable when the majority of the world's resources are automatically obtained by robots or whatever, and we won't run out of anything - without scarcity, there is no such thing as economics
01:53 Uberi sort of like the economy on Solaria
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01:55 mauvebic its just as likely with robots theyll decide they dont need as big a labour force and return decaying cities to nature :p
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01:56 mauvebic hell i dont know why the whole world doesn't have a 1 child policy for the next 50 years
01:56 mauvebic when robots make everything and all we have to do is consume/be happy thatll add up to a helluvalot more consuming than our present free time allows :p
01:57 mauvebic though theyll just as likely replace 'scarcity' with 'environment' as a reason to maintain the social/economic order as it is
01:58 mauvebic though i believe in being surprised :-)
02:10 Kacey hey anyone want to help me finish my mesecons project for the mesecons competition?
02:12 jordan4ibanez Guess what the next update is http://i.imgur.com/Z5malWo.png
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02:16 Kacey anyone want to help me make something for the mesecons competition?
02:16 NekoGloop nope
02:16 NekoGloop jordan4ibanez, ALL THE COLORS
02:16 jordan4ibanez yes ALL THE COLOURS!
02:16 ShadowNinja Kacey: what is it?
02:16 sokomine other mod that ought to be written and that i'd like to have for some time: a +1 mod. just found some more houses on vanessas server that are good
02:17 Kacey ShadowNinja, join my server and find out
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02:26 Kacey ShadowNinja, i need your help
02:28 Exio is possible to run MT on mac os x?
02:28 Exio not for me, btw :P
02:28 VanessaE bbl
02:30 Kacey anyone want to help?
02:31 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaHdwMA/screenshot_37846348.png no way...
02:33 jordan4ibanez Nice!
02:33 jordan4ibanez I think minetest has left mac so far behind it'll never catch up
02:36 Exio ok
02:36 jordan4ibanez Unless you or sfan can compile it of course
02:37 Exio i just don't have any mac
02:37 Exio (and never will)
02:38 hmmmm i actually got Mac OS X 10.8 running in a VM, and I have GCC set up
02:39 hmmmm i need to get around to getting the rest of the compile setup working.
02:46 Exio in a VM?
02:46 Exio does that even work? :P
02:46 jordan4ibanez Yes
02:46 Exio (in the xeon, no?)
02:46 jordan4ibanez If the VM works the compiler works
02:47 Exio i don't think it is going to work properly with an AMD cpu
02:47 jordan4ibanez it's emulated
02:47 Exio and i need to use for virtualizing, the fx or the netbook
02:47 jordan4ibanez you can change the cpu type in the VM
02:48 Exio the whole cpu type?
02:48 jordan4ibanez Yes
02:48 jordan4ibanez _I THINK_
02:48 Exio the last time i checked in vbox it emulated just "some stuff"
02:48 jordan4ibanez https://drm.info/files/images/Tied-Magenta.preview.jpg
02:48 Exio and qemu is slow as hell with graphical things
02:49 Exio haha, nice image
02:50 jordan4ibanez I found it when I was looking up magenta lol
02:51 Exio magenta? stop stalking my desktop!
02:51 jordan4ibanez lolwut
02:51 Exio http://exio4.com.ar/_/screenshots/dwm-1.png
02:51 Exio (iirc the link)
02:52 jordan4ibanez nice picture
02:52 jordan4ibanez those font needs to be upgraded though lol
02:53 kaeza shit now I can't access lua.org :(
02:53 kaeza something is fucked on my system
02:53 kaeza and I have no idea what
02:53 Exio it is just a WIP desktop
02:53 NekoGloop you're using linux, of course.
02:53 Exio i'm still working on it :P
02:53 Exio but lazy
02:54 jordan4ibanez install kde!
02:54 Exio i setup it in parts, first was the dwm, then the wallpaper, then coded the status
02:54 kaeza I can't even access exio4.com.ar :(
02:54 jordan4ibanez then the work is done xD
02:54 Exio nah
02:54 jordan4ibanez that is pretty cool
02:54 Exio kde is awesome, but i don't want it as normal 'desktop'
02:54 jordan4ibanez Idea for mesecons thing
02:55 jordan4ibanez someone make a virtual desktop environment in minetest which accesses your folders on the real OS
02:55 Exio kaeza: install a local dns cache
02:55 Exio (+squid=profit)
02:55 kaeza Exio, how do I do that?
02:55 Exio apt-get install bind9 squid
02:55 kaeza kaeza: GIYF
02:55 Exio yeah
02:55 tri2d2 monsterwm > dwm
02:57 Exio maybe :P
02:57 kaeza Exio, installed. What do I do now?
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03:00 Exio kaeza: vim /etc/bind/named.conf.options  .. add forwarders { 8.8.8.8; 8.8.4.4; } (my config [not at the end, in the middle as part of the options "hash" or whatever :P)
03:00 Exio and then use 127.0.0.1 as dns in /etc/resolv.conf or whatever you do
03:00 ShadowNinja us_0gb: you should probably join your channel :-)
03:01 us_0gb Okay, I'm in.
03:04 kaeza Exio, done. what now?
03:04 kaeza reboot?
03:04 kaeza err... restart service?
03:06 Exio sorry
03:06 Exio this crashed
03:06 Exio kaeza: ok, now if you have the /etc/resolv.conf and the bind9 working
03:07 Exio just check it yourself, dig somedomain && dig somedomain and check the "request time or so"
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03:07 Exio it would be only 1 or 0 ms the second time
03:07 Exio other thing, you will need to setup the squid, i'd say, read the config and check what you may want of it
03:08 Exio (as in, it has a very well self-documented config)
03:08 jordan4ibanez who wants to try the dyable slimes?
03:08 Exio and there is a lot of stuff, like how many png(s) keep more time in the cache and just make the php never get cached, and so
03:09 Exio s/many// idk
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03:28 kaeza Exio, thanks! that worked.
03:28 kaeza I was about to nuke my system
03:28 Exio it is awesome for slow networks
03:28 Exio our networks*
03:28 Exio because you just have stuff locally == you don't download it == less latency :D
03:28 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Prevent infinite loop with invalid Inventory format d01b74d00a 2013-03-27T20:27:31-07:00 http://git.io/0zvt6Q
03:29 kaeza well... at least I can access minetest.org
03:29 kaeza err... .net
03:29 Exio .xxx
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03:39 jordan4ibanez wat http://i.imgur.com/RywEQV1.jpg
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04:03 jordan4ibanez VanessaE you'll like this update
04:03 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/cAB3hMC.png
04:04 VanessaE heh
04:04 VanessaE how do you color them? :-)
04:05 jordan4ibanez dyes
04:05 VanessaE sweet
04:06 NakedFury would it be too much stress for the game if players, npc, animals, monsters ended being like in this game: http://wollay.blogspot.com/
04:07 jordan4ibanez Probably
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04:12 jordan4ibanez I was thining of having different colored slimes spawn in different areas
04:12 jordan4ibanez so that way, on servers without dye crafting recipes, you can still have all colored slimes as pets
04:14 jordan4ibanez Goodnight
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04:48 NekoGloop O)_(O
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04:55 * VanessaE pokes NekoGloop
04:56 NekoGloop O)_(O
04:56 VanessaE heh
04:56 NekoGloop PFFT, registered nick based on a creepypasta.
04:57 VanessaE heh
05:10 * VanessaE pokes us_0gb, just because :)
05:10 us_0gb Hmm? I'm awake, Professor!
05:10 us_0gb Oh. It's you. I thought I dozed off in class again.
05:10 VanessaE heh
05:11 VanessaE ok, so what's your answer to question 11?
05:11 VanessaE ;)
05:11 us_0gb The assignment is an essay. There is no question eleven. Nice try though.
05:11 VanessaE lol
05:12 Kacey anyone want to help me make something for the mesecons competition?
05:13 us_0gb I suck at mesecons. You don't want my help.
05:13 Kacey lol
05:13 VanessaE sorry, I ain't any better :-)
05:14 us_0gb I made a door that only opened at night once.
05:14 us_0gb But that's the most interesting thing I ever made that worked.
05:14 VanessaE best I can claim is a classic 8-bit adder, and that's nothing compared to some other folks :-)
05:15 us_0gb It wan't even a fancy door, just 1*2.
05:15 kaeza I made a transporter using pistons and delayers, but most of the time items stuck on the line :(
05:17 Kacey i made a 4-bit decoder to 7-segment display
05:17 us_0gb Yeah .. I can't do fancy stuff like that.
05:18 us_0gb I pretty good at building cobble boxes though, if you ever need one.
05:18 kaeza lol
05:19 kaeza what I've seen is that not much people use mesecons for basic things like automated doors, brudges, etc.
05:19 Kacey lol
05:19 kaeza most just try to build a computer inside a computer
05:19 VanessaE Yo dawg,... etc
05:19 us_0gb I never really got into mesecons.
05:20 us_0gb I messes with them a bit because they were on Globis's server, but grw bored of them quickly.
05:20 us_0gb *messed
05:20 us_0gb *grew
05:21 kaeza VanessaE, Yo dawg! I put your dawg with a yo-yo into a yo-yo so you can play with your dawg while you play yo-yo while your dawg plays with his yo-yo, dawg
05:21 VanessaE kaeza: ow.
05:25 bdjnk http://www.animeroot.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/yo-dawg-yo-yo.jpg
05:26 kaeza yeah...something like that
05:31 kaeza what do I need to have the public server list? I can't see the 'Public' checkbox in the Multiplayer tab
05:31 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vaHdxYw/2013-03-28_01.12.42.png randomly
05:32 us_0gb You need to compile with cURL.
05:32 NekoGloop my observatory in MC
05:32 us_0gb Then you need to edit your minetest.conf.
05:32 us_0gb Set server_announce to true.
05:32 kaeza I used this: cmake . -DENABLE_CURL=1 -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1
05:33 us_0gb Okay. Set that in your minetest.conf then.
05:33 kaeza I don't want to announce a server; I want to see the public server list
05:34 us_0gb Oh, see it? I don't know then. It works out of the box for me.
05:43 Kacey !up 67.162.156.91
05:43 MinetestBot 67.162.156.91:30000 seems to be down
05:43 Kacey !up 67.162.156.91
05:43 MinetestBot 67.162.156.91:30000 seems to be down
05:46 Kacey !up 67.162.156.91
05:46 MinetestBot 67.162.156.91:30000 seems to be down
05:46 Kacey hmm...
05:47 Kacey hopefully nobody minds me trying to forward a port here
05:47 Kacey !up 67.162.156.91
05:47 MinetestBot 67.162.156.91:30000 is up (0.302ms)
05:47 us_0gb Nice.
05:47 Kacey join that server to help
05:47 us_0gb Okay. Help what?
05:47 us_0gb Mesecons?
05:48 kaeza !up 186.122.187.63
05:48 MinetestBot 186.122.187.63:30000 is up (0.880ms)
05:48 Kacey yep building something for the competition
05:48 kaeza !up 186.122.187.63
05:49 MinetestBot 186.122.187.63:30000 seems to be down
05:49 us_0gb And ... down again.
05:50 kaeza !up 186.122.187.63
05:50 MinetestBot 186.122.187.63:30000 is up (0.675ms)
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06:23 telek it probably wouldn't make it for 0.4.6/0.4.7 But at least by 0.4.8 somebody should see about rewriting the item and node definition code to have some sort of checksum/caching capability ala the media cache. While it's not a big deal on broadband, both of those can take minutes to load over dialup (which also means it's wasting a lot of bandwidth for people on capped cell phone data plans.
06:37 telek Other than that and the usual map block thread hangs it runs pretty smooth over dialup :)
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07:34 kaeza is it just me or the entire .org TLD is down?
07:34 VanessaE slashdot is answering okay
07:35 VanessaE freeosund.org seems okay too
07:35 VanessaE er freesound*
07:36 kaeza must be some connection problems with these parts then
07:36 kaeza I can't access any .org domain
07:37 VanessaE weird
07:37 VanessaE maybe your modem has a virus ;-)
07:37 VanessaE jk
07:37 sfan5 "German grammar would probably be a lot clearer for a compiler/interpreter." quote from http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2013-March/019908.html
07:38 kaeza actually, the only domains I can access are .com
07:38 sfan5 what about trying sfan5.dyndns.org
07:38 VanessaE works for me, sfan5
07:38 sfan5 for me too
07:38 kaeza not here :(
07:38 VanessaE I suppose it had better work for you ;-)
07:38 VanessaE kaeza: try a different DNS server then
07:39 VanessaE what do you use now?
07:39 kaeza no idea... the modem auto-configures under windows
07:39 VanessaE I use 4.2.2.5, 4.2.2.4
07:39 VanessaE others like 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
07:39 VanessaE (verizon's and google's main servers, respectively)
07:41 kaeza brb
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07:42 kaeza1 ok
07:42 VanessaE better?
07:42 kaeza1 at least .net working
07:42 kaeza1 also.org
07:43 kaeza1 hmm... I wonder if my provider is doing some kind of maintenance, or using the recent DDoS as an excuse for being lazy
07:44 VanessaE who knows
07:44 kaeza1 thank you for the help. BTW, I use manual config using 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 now
07:45 kaeza1 maybe I should setup that on Linux too
07:45 VanessaE yes
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07:46 kaeza1 LOL http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79395#p79395
07:47 kaeza oh nice! sfan5.dyndns.org has a forkbomb.exe in it
07:48 sfan5 its uneffectife on xp
07:48 sfan5 but makes win 7 blue screen/crash with 100% guarantee
07:48 kaeza hehe... I ain't clicking that thing anyway
07:49 sfan5 s/uneffectife/uneffective/
07:49 sfan5 the googlebot seriously crawled my private "server" at sfan5.dyndns.org:8888
07:49 kaeza don't you have a robots.txt file?
07:50 sfan5 i have
07:50 sfan5 the server is written in python
07:50 sfan5 so theres no filesystem directly mapped to it
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07:57 sfan5 ibot.rikers.org/20130125.html.gz  " *** sfan5|OFF materializes into sfan5 "
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08:29 us_0gb I think I managed to fix that annoying node-replacement bug.
08:29 VanessaE oh?
08:29 us_0gb It seems to work on my local copy anyway.
08:30 us_0gb I thought it was an engine thing, but it seems to actually be a Lua thing, having to do with the fact that ignore is buildable_to.
08:31 celeron55 is it the pull request from few days ago?
08:32 us_0gb Is it? If so, I just rewrote it for nothing ....
08:32 us_0gb Checking ...
08:33 celeron55 now that i think of it, that's only one way to fix it... i think the real fix does not involve modifying any node definitions - changing ignore to buildable_to has wider effects than just that case, which is probably undesirable
08:33 us_0gb Nope. ShadowNinja's makes ignore not buildable_to, mine fixes the issue.
08:33 us_0gb Mine doesn't modify any nodes.
08:33 celeron55 do you make the engine actually check whether a node is ignore or if it's actually inexistent?
08:34 celeron55 the latter is the case that is currently buggy
08:34 us_0gb It uses get_node_or_nil(), which should return nil olny in unloaded chunks.
08:34 us_0gb *only
08:34 celeron55 sounds good so far 8)
08:36 us_0gb Basically, that's all it does. It checks pointed_thing.above, and pointed_thing.below. Oh, also logs if it has to abort the placement.
08:37 celeron55 lagging in a rare case like that doesn't matter
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08:37 celeron55 oh lol
08:37 celeron55 it was an 'o' 8)
08:38 celeron55 whatever then
08:38 us_0gb An 'o'? What?
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08:42 ironzorg lags/logs
08:43 us_0gb Ah. So logging is a bad idea?
08:43 VanessaE no but lagging is :)
08:48 VanessaE bbl, bed
08:48 us_0gb Good night.
08:48 us_0gb No wonder my frame rate is so low ... For some reason, I have two clients open.
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10:15 sfan5 the place many people go:
10:15 sfan5 >>> hashlib.sha3_384(b".").hexdigest()[51:54]
10:15 sfan5 'bed'
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10:17 markveidemanis Take 4 away from a certain number, then divide it by 8. The answer id the same as it would be if you had added 6 to the number and then divided it by 10. What is the number?
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10:18 sfan5 markveidemanis: ...
10:18 sfan5 44
10:19 markveidemanis HOW THE HELL DID YOU DO THAT
10:19 sfan5 >>> for i in range(-500, 500):
10:19 sfan5 ...   if (i - 4) / 8 == (i + 6) / 10:
10:19 sfan5 ...     print("MATCH: %i" % (i))
10:20 markveidemanis ah, k
10:20 markveidemanis I tried to add the numbers
10:20 sfan5 just "brute-forcing" for a result is the easiest way
10:21 markveidemanis Could you explain the '%'
10:21 sfan5 do you know printf?
10:21 markveidemanis no
10:21 sfan5 :/
10:22 markveidemanis print or printf
10:22 markveidemanis That program gives me the same answer as the one i did
10:22 sfan5 to explain it easy: "MATCH: %i".replace("%i", i)
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10:22 sfan5 it replaces "%i" by the number
10:22 markveidemanis to concatenate strings and integers?
10:23 markveidemanis k
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10:55 markveidemanis Can someone help with blender?
10:56 markveidemanis The wielditem mod blend files override the default player animation and i changed mine
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11:14 * sfan5 is now going to post in any mod topic with faults (powered by https://gist.github.com/sfan5/4642453 )
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11:59 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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12:11 pandaro hi adam
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12:12 markveidemanis Hi Zeg9
12:12 Zeg9 Hi
12:14 pandaro adam:yesterday you added something about the collisions between entities.
12:14 v2px celeron55: the launchpad fix is up :)
12:14 pandaro adam:how do they work? as a modder can use this feature? I have to wait for new API?
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12:24 markveidemanis Anyone want the results of MT-CRAWLER?
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12:25 17SACNWZZ !up minetest.info.tm
12:25 MinetestBot minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down
12:26 17SACNWZZ !up minetest.info.tm
12:26 MinetestBot minetest.info.tm:30000 is up (0.591ms)
12:28 markveidemanis http://paste.pound-python.org/show/31730/
12:28 markveidemanis http://paste.pound-python.org/show/31731/
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12:29 Zeg9 Hi sparky
12:29 STHGOM hi
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12:35 sfan5 :/
12:36 STHGOM YOU BACK!!!
12:36 sfan5 some regular expression I made work in 2 different online regex tester tools, but just won't work in python
12:37 Zeg9 Anyone could check this ? http://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/571
12:37 sfan5 markveidemanis: why do you post that here?
12:38 markveidemanis Just thought it might be of some use to someone
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12:39 STHGOM i found a picture of a sniper gun in the firearms mod, i am trying to make it work...
12:40 * sfan5 is just to dumb to use the python re module
12:41 sfan5 it works!
12:42 sfan5 my bot can now automatically post to mod topics: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79426#p79426
12:43 markveidemanis BOTUSER is a test
12:43 markveidemanis He may be joining us
12:49 kaeza "From: /usr/bin/python2.7" <-- LOL
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12:49 Zeg9 Hi
12:49 kaeza hai Zeg
12:51 sfan5 !sfu sfan5
12:51 MinetestBot sfan5 Moderator 2,108 posts, registered on 2011-08-24 | id: 239
12:51 kaeza sfan5, nice!
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12:52 sfan5 !sfu kaeza
12:52 MinetestBot kaeza Member 748 posts, registered on 2012-10-18 | id: 3279
12:53 STHGOM on the forum?
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12:53 BOTUSER Hello, #minetest!
12:53 markveidemanis HOORAY!!!
12:53 STHGOM Hello!
12:54 STHGOM Welcome!
12:54 markveidemanis Thank you, thats my bot, its just a dummie atm
12:54 markveidemanis I made sure to put the meaage outside the while 1: loop :D
12:54 markveidemanis *message*
12:54 kaeza !sfu afgagfh
12:54 MinetestBot kaeza: No Results found
12:55 kaeza :)
12:55 markveidemanis ok from now testing is on #mtmt if you are interested
12:55 STHGOM !sfu SilverWolfLily22
12:55 MinetestBot SilverWolfLily22 Member 58 posts, registered on 2012-10-20 | id: 3302
12:55 STHGOM !sfu captainfap
12:55 MinetestBot captainfap Member 237 posts, registered on 2012-07-11 | id: 2354
12:56 markveidemanis !stfu kaeza :P
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12:56 kaeza <MinetestBot> sftu: unknown command
12:56 kaeza faj
12:56 kaeza typo
12:56 STHGOM !sfu MinetestBot
12:56 MinetestBot STHGOM: No Results found
12:56 STHGOM noooooooooooooooooo
12:57 sfan5 !sfu sfan5*
12:57 MinetestBot sfan5 Moderator 2,108 posts, registered on 2011-08-24 | id: 239
12:57 MinetestBot sfan5-bot New member 2 posts, registered on Today | id: 4833
12:57 kaeza sfan5, did you put a cap on it?
12:57 kaeza I mean, number of users displayed?
12:58 sfan5 yes
12:58 sfan5 !sfu *
12:58 MinetestBot sfan5: Too many matches: 50
12:58 sfan5 but it currently only searchs the first site of the search resutls
12:58 sfan5 *results
12:59 kaeza ah good :) otherwise I can see some users (*cough*markv*cough*) spamming again
12:59 Zeg9 bbl
13:00 sfan5 kaeza: MinetestBot ignores markve.demanis by default
13:00 sfan5 i have to manually tell MinetestBot to unignore him
13:00 kaeza hehe
13:01 sfan5 https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/antiabuse.py#L10
13:01 STHGOM kaeza: why does you gun mod lag so much?
13:02 kaeza STHGOM, lag? you aren't shooting like crazy are you? :P
13:02 STHGOM umm...
13:02 STHGOM no
13:02 markveidemanis at #mtmt , i made a spambot
13:03 STHGOM i made a sniper rifle :D
13:04 kaeza STHGOM, make a pull request :)
13:04 STHGOM whats that?
13:04 STHGOM :P
13:06 kaeza STHGOM, to merge your changes/additions into the mod
13:06 STHGOM i did
13:08 markveidemanis How do i set all the text inside a file to a python variable?
13:09 kaeza simple
13:09 STHGOM now i will make grenade
13:09 kaeza → #python
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13:10 sfan5 markveidemanis: http://pastie.org/7149698
13:11 markveidemanis k, ty
13:11 markveidemanis Now i need to read that file from another script and set all the text within it to a variable
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13:12 sfan5 "read that file from another script" what does that mean?
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13:13 markveidemanis I have written to that file, now i need to set the contents of the file to a variable within another file
13:13 markveidemanis File1: set content >> datafile.txt
13:13 sfan5 "within another file"
13:13 sfan5 what does that mean?
13:13 sfan5 (exactly)
13:13 markveidemanis File2: set msg >> datafile.txt
13:14 markveidemanis I need to read a file
13:14 sfan5 which one?
13:15 markveidemanis datafile.txt is the file with the text i want to set to a variable
13:15 sfan5 yeah
13:16 sfan5 but which file do you need to read?
13:17 markveidemanis i need to read datafile.txt from File2
13:18 sfan5 ...
13:18 sfan5 so, you need the part after ">> " from file2
13:20 markveidemanis http://paste.pound-python.org/show/31732/
13:20 markveidemanis This is for an IRC client
13:20 markveidemanis http://paste.pound-python.org/show/31733/
13:21 markveidemanis It will send the text in the file
13:21 sfan5 ohh
13:22 markveidemanis I have to do it in that way because i may need more that 1 client to send stuff and it seems efficient
13:22 markveidemanis so that i can make 1 connection to the server but have many clients open
13:23 markveidemanis But then i would have to remove some lines... Anyway thats for future me to worry about :D
13:24 sfan5 markveidemanis: like this? http://paste.pound-python.org/show/31734/
13:25 markveidemanis SERVER ERROR
13:25 markveidemanis when i click the link
13:25 markveidemanis error 500
13:26 sfan5 and the problem is that if client1 writes message.txt and the bot is not done with the s.read(1024) and then client2 wants to send a message the message.txt from client1 get overwritten
13:27 markveidemanis file = open("message.txt", "w") ...
13:27 markveidemanis I can use     file = open("message.txt", "r")
13:27 sfan5 no
13:27 sfan5 you said something with multiple client
13:27 sfan5 they all use 1 message.txt
13:27 markveidemanis screw that idea for now
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13:30 markveidemanis sfan5, can you repaste that plz
13:30 sfan5 will do that
13:30 markveidemanis but use another service
13:30 sfan5 ok
13:31 markveidemanis it is broken for me
13:31 markveidemanis http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://paste.pound-python.org/show/31734/
13:32 markveidemanis Yep, i broke my internet
13:35 markveidemanis hi...
13:37 NekoGloop O)_(O
13:38 kaeza (⌐■_■)
13:38 NekoGloop O)_(O
13:39 sfan5 markveidemanis: http://pastie.org/7150126
13:41 sfan5 markveidemanis: that uses threading to achieve a non-blocking socket.read function, and makes sure multiple client work without interefering with eachother
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13:43 sfan5 markveidemanis: forgot something
13:43 sfan5 http://pastie.org/7150148
13:43 STHGOM helloooo
13:44 markveidemanis Thats very overcomplicated
13:44 sfan5 ...
13:44 sfan5 i should maybe test script before i paste them
13:45 sfan5 markveidemanis: but its requires
13:45 sfan5 *required
13:45 markveidemanis My script was fine, i just needed a way to access the variable from another script to have something to send
13:46 markveidemanis Can you repaste my original script, i lost that too
13:50 Jordach huh
13:50 Jordach python ftw
13:51 Exio python is java v2
13:51 Exio the new and cool language for the moment
13:51 Exio with lots of syntatic sugar
13:52 Exio with a pseudo OOP
13:52 Exio what doesn't support private data, and so on
13:52 STHGOM is there any way to zoom in/out in minetest?
13:54 kaeza STHGOM, not programatically
13:55 kaeza STHGOM, /set fov 10
13:55 STHGOM you can put that in a mod can you/
13:55 kaeza nope :/
13:56 STHGOM haha i set fov 0
13:59 STHGOM now i can snipe
13:59 kaeza try /set fov 150
13:59 kaeza :P
14:02 STHGOM i did
14:02 STHGOM :D
14:02 STHGOM makes it look like you run really fast
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14:05 Jordach anyone here skilled with ssh
14:05 Exio better if you ask, no?
14:10 STHGOM bye!
14:11 Jordach right properly logged into ssh now
14:15 Jordach OH GOD, this is WIN http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-280313-141503.php
14:18 Jordach done. added myself to sudo (noob)
14:18 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vaHd2bw/2013-03-28_10.03.59.png
14:19 Jordach NekoGloop, nice
14:21 Jordach NekoGloop, im going to open my own 24/7 vps
14:21 Jordach (as in, MT SERVER)
14:26 Jordach compiling
14:29 Jordach anyways, almost there! http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-280313-142903.php
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14:35 Jordach oh btw, scriptapt.cpp:701: warning: unused variable 'ndef'
14:35 Jordach fuxme
14:36 Jordach markveidemanis, you've been moaning of a survival server with just default
14:37 Jordach i might have finally made your dream come true
14:37 markveidemanis Yes...
14:37 Jordach my VPS currently just has a default minetest_game pulled fresh this afternoon
14:37 Jordach you might finally get it
14:38 Jordach brb
14:45 bas080 Question, can i move a node together with it's meta?
14:46 bas080 or something like set_meta? or do I have to do it for every field?
14:46 PilzAdam bas080, hint: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1253
14:46 bas080 TY, PilzAdam
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14:48 RealBadAngel bas80: more hints: https://github.com/minetest/common/blob/master/mods/default/init.lua#L1766
14:49 RealBadAngel this is used to swap nodes but preserve meta
14:49 PilzAdam do not call this method from default; it will be removed in the future
14:49 RealBadAngel i do have my own copy of it ;)
14:50 * Jordach has a possible Technic server in the works
14:51 RealBadAngel but the method explains how to remove node. store meta, place it somwhere (doesnt have to be on the very same pos) and rebuild meta
14:52 RealBadAngel im lookin for a noncreative server to play on
14:52 Jordach RealBadAngel, you might be in luck
14:52 RealBadAngel :)
14:53 RealBadAngel just do it
14:53 Jordach just wait for me to finish compiling
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14:53 Jordach NOOOO
14:53 Infinity_69 hi
14:53 Infinity_69 VanessaE, are you on?
14:53 Jordach Hint: This is going to be a suvival world, but bonuses are awarded for doing creative things
14:54 Jordach such as cities
14:54 Infinity_69 Jordach, im a programmer :)
14:54 Jordach high risers
14:54 Infinity_69 im working on a program in Python 3
14:54 * Jordach slaps Infinity_69 for using Python 3
14:54 Infinity_69 a friend of mine converts python 3 to python 2... :D
14:54 Jordach NO!
14:54 Jordach 2.7.x or GTFO
14:54 Infinity_69 so, no harm done
14:54 Infinity_69 well, there is a p2 version, but p3 is out before p2 :/
14:55 Infinity_69 because Manuel will have 2 convert 3to2 :D
14:55 RealBadAngel Jordach are you goin to use there latest git?
14:55 Infinity_69 with a program called 3to2
14:55 Infinity_69 xD
14:55 Jordach RealBadAngel, yes
14:55 Jordach pulled about 2PM GMT+0
14:55 Infinity_69 its a simple program atm...
14:55 RealBadAngel Jordach so wait a couple of minutest for technic update
14:55 RealBadAngel regarding ores
14:55 * Jordach sighs
14:56 RealBadAngel lmao: "minutests" ;)
14:56 Jordach anyways, privs can only be attained via me
14:57 Infinity_69 where do i get the current GPL?
14:57 kaeza GPL? yuck!
14:57 Infinity_69 what?!
14:57 Infinity_69 General Public Licence!
14:57 Infinity_69 wait, i know!
14:57 kaeza LGPL FTW!
14:58 kaeza or better yet, BSD license :D
14:58 Jordach WARNING: SERVER TIME SPEED WILL BE 24 HOURS SYNCED TO GMT+0
14:59 Infinity_69 whats lgpl?
14:59 Jordach essentially allows you to use the program like a library
14:59 Infinity_69 whats the difference
15:00 RealBadAngel Jordach, technic is updated with ores
15:00 Jordach using lgpl means people can make money from it and not give the source code irrc
15:00 Jordach iirc*
15:00 Infinity_69 wait so i cant make money with gpl?
15:00 Infinity_69 o.o
15:01 RealBadAngel brb, goin to cook somehin to eat
15:02 Infinity_69 bacon FTW!
15:02 Jordach server is up with: 94.249.210.106 : 30000
15:02 Jordach markveidemanis, ^
15:03 markveidemanis Im doing some python atm, il be on later
15:03 Infinity_69 mark!
15:03 Infinity_69 im doing python :D
15:03 Infinity_69 wanna test it?
15:03 Infinity_69 xD
15:04 Jordach PilzAdam, RealBadAngel my client just died D:
15:05 RealBadAngel RIP ;)
15:05 RealBadAngel why?
15:05 Infinity_69 because Cobalt had to live!
15:05 Infinity_69 it lives!
15:05 Infinity_69 IT LIVES!
15:05 Jordach i tried to do stuff and it just went bleeehhhhhh
15:05 RealBadAngel add moretrees
15:05 Infinity_69 *evil yet annoying laught*
15:05 Jordach i need latest
15:06 RealBadAngel there are no trees in your world
15:06 Jordach RealBadAngel, i can do this stuff at a later date
15:06 Infinity_69 what should i add in a library folder of a python program?
15:06 RealBadAngel on generate stuff better add at the very begining
15:08 Jordach right logged back in
15:14 Jordach RealBadAngel, ill be about in five mins
15:14 Jordach PilzAdam, you too0
15:14 Jordach too*
15:14 Jordach and i need to modify my auth.txt
15:15 Jordach (as the game failed to give me admin privs
15:16 markveidemanis sfan5
15:16 markveidemanis HELP
15:16 sfan5 what?
15:16 markveidemanis i am failing with the bot on 'mtmt
15:16 Jordach markveidemanis, if you have python problems, ask me
15:16 markveidemanis ok
15:16 sfan5 no, ask me
15:16 * Jordach slaps sfan5 with ssh
15:17 markveidemanis Il google it :P
15:17 * sfan5 slaps Jordach with telnet
15:17 * Jordach slaps sfan5 with Metro UI
15:17 * sfan5 slaps Jordach with JQuery UI
15:17 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/7151428
15:17 * Jordach feeds sfan5 Windows 8
15:17 markveidemanis It just spams even though i have an if statement
15:18 * sfan5 feeds Jordach ElementaryOS Beta 1
15:18 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/7151435
15:18 Jordach markveidemanis, while 1: results to true
15:18 sfan5 markveidemanis: the file is not deleted
15:18 sfan5 you need to delete message.txt after you used it
15:18 sfan5 os.delte("message.txt")
15:19 Jordach delete*
15:19 markveidemanis Can you do it better, i dont know how to have a better if statement on which to send the file to prevent spam
15:19 markveidemanis k
15:19 Jordach Jordach calling PilzAdam
15:19 sfan5 does anyone here have iDevice and likes python
15:19 Jordach yes
15:19 PilzAdam Jordach, hm?
15:19 sfan5 you
15:19 Jordach i know of an app that allows coding on iPads
15:19 Jordach PilzAdam, i need to restart the server with an updated privs
15:20 sfan5 I know that I compiled python 2.7 for idevices
15:20 Jordach and you will need to redo the password you used
15:20 PilzAdam Jordach, k
15:21 markveidemanis can you edit both the files so it works then way i did it?
15:21 markveidemanis To make it a light client
15:21 Jordach http://paste.ubuntu.com/5655420/
15:21 Jordach PilzAdam, RealBadAngel ^
15:22 PilzAdam Jordach, tell me when i can relogin
15:22 sfan5 markveidemanis: http://pastie.org/7151476
15:22 Jordach waiting for minetest now
15:23 markveidemanis AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'delete'
15:23 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vaHd3OA/2013-03-28_11.19.39.png and this is why I will brutally murder the person who makes creepers.
15:24 kaeza http://ifunny.mobi/#GuyKiHzn
15:24 sfan5 markveidemanis: replace os.delete with os.remove
15:25 markveidemanis IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'message.txt'  it deletes it
15:26 markveidemanis it wont work if it not there and if its there it deletes it
15:27 PilzAdam Jordach, I am wating
15:27 PilzAdam +i
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15:31 artur99 hi
15:31 artur99 is this freenode? im trying to set mirc
15:32 v2px yes
15:32 v2px #minetest on freenode..
15:32 artur99 k, thanks
15:32 sfan5 yes, this is freenode
15:33 artur99 now i have an other question: what means Open a terminal and drop the bash script in and run it ?
15:33 jordan4ibanez joined #minetest
15:33 artur99 from: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Setting_up_a_server
15:34 sfan5 save the script as a file
15:35 artur99 with no extension?
15:36 PilzAdam artur99, it doesnt matterm but most scripts have .sh
15:36 PilzAdam -m
15:37 artur99 i have the .sh file
15:37 artur99 but where to put it?
15:38 PilzAdam open a terminal and use the "cd" command to go to the directory where the script is
15:38 artur99 and what is a terminal?
15:38 artur99 cmd and run?
15:39 PilzAdam are you on windows?
15:39 artur99 yea
15:39 artur99 *yes
15:39 PilzAdam then forget it
15:39 Infinity_69 hi PilzAdam
15:39 Jordach .sh wont run
15:40 PilzAdam its Linux only
15:40 Infinity_69 im making a program with x10sions xD
15:40 Infinity_69 get it?
15:40 PilzAdam artur99, why do you follow the steps under "Linux" when you have windows?
15:41 jordan4ibanez turn .sh into bat
15:41 artur99 :D i didnt saw "Linux"
15:41 Jordach jordan4ibanez, WIN
15:42 artur99 and there, on windows, should i make a new txt file?
15:42 tripod hello
15:42 tripod anyone here good @ bash
15:42 tripod ran into a brick wall
15:42 jordan4ibanez Weedy_lappy
15:42 tripod well my level with bash
15:42 markveidemanis sfan5: can you help?
15:42 * Infinity_69 : Winning!
15:43 sfan5 markveidemanis: wheres the problem?
15:43 jordan4ibanez I've installed so many terrain generation mods that it now takes minetest about 2 minutes to generate a chunk
15:43 markveidemanis having a variable which if true sends the message
15:43 markveidemanis To prevent spam
15:44 Weedy_lappy jordan4ibanez: wat
15:44 jordan4ibanez some forum thing needs help with bash
15:44 Weedy_lappy oh
15:44 Weedy_lappy link
15:45 jordan4ibanez tripod give him the link
15:45 * Jordach doesnt mind working with ssh, but its still a pain
15:45 Weedy_lappy tripod: hi
15:45 tripod hai
15:45 tripod 1 second
15:45 tripod it isnt minetest related :P
15:45 jordan4ibanez Oh
15:46 jordan4ibanez you made me wake up weedy for nothing?
15:46 tripod basically.
15:46 Weedy_lappy :<
15:46 sfan5 markveidemanis: if you don't know how to define a variable and use if you need to read a python tutorial
15:46 tripod he can go back to slumber
15:46 jordan4ibanez I curse you to -1000 years of slog
15:46 Weedy_lappy :V
15:46 Weedy_lappy so
15:46 tripod jordan4ibanez: after i have slept for at least 12 hours.
15:46 Weedy_lappy am I going to see some code or what?
15:47 tripod yes
15:47 tripod one moment
15:48 tripod ttp://sprunge.us/UdJc
15:48 tripod basically
15:48 tripod #volume status
15:48 tripod is where you want to look
15:48 tripod if you see anything wrong with #volume status
15:48 tripod i will give you a bj with interest
15:48 jordan4ibanez ^lmfao
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15:49 tripod basically that code is for my bar for windowmanager, it should dyncamically adjust a volume bar
15:49 tripod but doesnt seem to
15:49 tripod i shall brb
15:49 tripod i need an early morning snack
15:50 tripod i also need a smoke
15:50 Weedy_lappy hmm
15:50 tripod like it looks fine to me
15:50 tripod but yer =/
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15:51 tripod dang it's saturday already
15:51 sfan5 saturday??
15:51 tripod I am in Australia.
15:51 tripod upsidedown land
15:52 sfan5 ah, ok
15:53 sfan5 tripod: ¡sıɥʇ pɐǝɹ oʇ ǝlqɐ ǝq plnoɥs noʎ uǝɥ┴
15:53 Weedy_lappy hmm
15:53 tripod nice script sfan5
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15:53 tripod :D
15:55 Weedy_lappy > unexpected operator
15:55 Weedy_lappy the hell, why is it trying to execute a string compare
15:56 sfan5 script? which script?
15:56 sfan5 wtf internet
15:56 Kacey joined #minetest
15:56 sfan5 i just had 1 minute lag
15:56 Kacey hi all
15:57 jordan4ibanez wait, can't we generate biomes in LUA now?
15:57 sfan5 tripod: which script?
15:59 tripod upsidedown
15:59 tripod text
15:59 tripod btw i meant friday
15:59 tripod not saturday
16:00 Kacey anyone want to help with a mesecons competition project?
16:00 sfan5 tripod: http://www.upsidedowntext.com/
16:00 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/common: Tweak oregen: make gold a bit more common, make diamonds a bit more rare e8a0edbbac 2013-03-28T06:50:53-07:00 http://git.io/Lb92Jw
16:04 jordan4ibanez can on_generated be made even faster?
16:05 Weedy_lappy tripod: so uhh
16:05 Weedy_lappy this works
16:05 * Kacey is starting to think minetest is looking like minecraft because of PilzAdam
16:05 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, the default usage of on_genrated() takes 0 to 19 ms
16:06 jordan4ibanez then why are mods so bad at utilizing it? could there be a find_surface addition to it? so that you can add in nodes without slowing down the terrain generation to a crawl?
16:08 Exio for the ores, now you have a minetest.generate_ore
16:08 Exio what does the hard work in WAY less time than before, for ores
16:08 jordan4ibanez No, I'm talking about finding a surface
16:08 jordan4ibanez like the tree mod, the plant mod, and a lot of others
16:09 Exio ah
16:09 Exio luajit
16:09 jordan4ibanez there has to be some way to find the surface of a chunk (if there is one) without using such complex things
16:09 jordan4ibanez no, not luajit, it's the way you have to find a surface, you get the middle of the chunk. they find the nodes near in a loop and such, and it slows down horribly
16:11 Kacey !upmenche.servegame.com
16:11 Kacey !up menche.servegame.com
16:11 MinetestBot menche.servegame.com:30000 seems to be down
16:11 Kacey huh
16:15 jordan4ibanez Also: with that memory upgrade, I don't think that minetest has a limit for mods any more
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16:18 BlockMen hi
16:22 jordan4ibanez Hi blockmen
16:22 Jordach BlockMen, please use a real IRC Client such as HExChat
16:23 Kacey lol XChat ftw!!!!
16:23 BlockMen oh..whats wrong with freenode?
16:23 Kacey webchat isnot a client
16:23 Kacey freenode is the network
16:23 Jordach BlockMen, nono client is the thing that sends chat and recieves chat
16:25 tripod Weedy_lappy: it is for you?
16:25 tripod must be my alsa
16:25 tripod thanks for confirmming
16:25 * Kacey needs help with his mesecons project
16:25 BlockMen ic. i ment qwebirc.
16:25 BlockMen does it make problems?
16:25 Weedy_lappy tripod: what are you expecting
16:26 tripod there are 3 volume icons
16:26 tripod max/min/mute
16:29 Weedy_lappy 21% 
16:29 Weedy_lappy 14% 
16:30 Weedy_lappy 2% 
16:30 BlockMen brb
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16:30 Weedy_lappy http://dpaste.com/1037825/
16:31 Weedy_lappy I use pulse so I have no PCM
16:31 Exio should not you have one?
16:32 Exio in alsa, because the pulseaudio stuff ends in the hw using alsa
16:33 Kacey this isn't working very well...
16:33 Weedy_lappy $ amixer
16:33 Weedy_lappy Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 65536
16:33 Weedy_lappy nope
16:34 Exio only master?
16:34 Weedy_lappy yup
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16:35 BlockMen bk...and hexchat dont work
16:37 BlockMen sfan, do you compile on windows?
16:37 BlockMen *sfan5
16:37 sfan5 no
16:37 sfan5 i compile on linux
16:37 sfan5 (for windows)
16:37 BlockMen damn...:\
16:38 BlockMen has anyone ever build minetest under windows with vs?
16:38 Kacey nope
16:39 Kacey i need some help for my mesecons project...
16:39 BlockMen what sort of help?
16:40 Kacey luacontroller
16:40 Jordach BlockMen, it's possible, thexyz does it
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16:41 BlockMen Jordach, thx. i will ask him
16:41 BlockMen he is not online atm, right?
16:41 thexyz yep
16:41 thexyz i am not
16:41 BlockMen oh, sry!
16:42 BlockMen thexyz, do you compile with vs?
16:43 Infinity_69 bye guys
16:43 BlockMen Kacey, i fear i can't help
16:43 BlockMen but i can try if you want
16:45 Kacey !up 67.162.156.91
16:45 MinetestBot 67.162.156.91:30000 is up (0.321ms)
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16:46 Zeg9 Hello
16:47 Kacey hi
16:47 BlockMen hi
16:50 sfan5 I just saw the new IE commercial
16:50 sfan5 no matter how touch IE is, it will always be crap
16:50 thexyz i do
16:50 Jordach sfan5, i see it often too ;L
16:51 thexyz BlockMen: what do you want
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16:51 Kacey they keep dropping as items...
16:52 rubenwardy hi all
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16:52 Zeg9 Hi
16:52 Kacey hi rubenwardy
16:52 BlockMen thexyz, when i try to compile i get always an error from minetest project
16:52 rubenwardy Jordach, are you 313hummer on youtube?
16:52 Jordach NO
16:52 Kacey jordan4ibanez is 313hummer
16:52 Jordach jordan4ibanez, is
16:52 jordan4ibanez wat
16:52 BlockMen thexyz, "d:\dir\minetest\src\irrlichttypes.h(23): fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht geöffnet werden: "irrTypes.h": No such file or directory"
16:53 thexyz your irrlicht dir is invalid
16:53 thexyz or your irrlicht is borked
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16:55 BlockMen in the CMakeList.txt there is just this 'set(IRRLICHT_SOURCE_DIR "${PROJECT_SOURCE_DIR}/../../irrlicht-1.7.2" CACHE PATH "irrlicht dir")', altough i had defindes include at cmake aswell
16:55 * Kacey needs help with his mesecons project
16:55 Kacey my luacontrollers seem to like overheating...
16:55 rubenwardy lol, http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=minetest+worst+mod&amp;oq=minetest+worst+mod&amp;gs_l=youtube.3...1882.2517.0.2701.4.4.0.0.0.0.112.342.3j1.4.0...0.0...1ac.1.ADxIP7cwVhY comes up with mobf
16:56 thexyz you should define it yourself
16:56 thexyz point to directory with irrlicht sources
16:56 rubenwardy then tnt, then block forge, then my finite water mod
16:56 BlockMen thexyz, i added this: 'set(IRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR "${PROJECT_SOURCE_DIR}/../../irrlicht-1.7.2/include/" CACHE PATH "irrlicht include directory")', but it didn't work either
16:57 thexyz use cmake-gui
16:57 thexyz on windows
16:59 BlockMen hmm, tried with cmake-gui like 20 times, he doesnt save it in the CMakeList.txt
16:59 BlockMen any idea...like idk, some like cmake?
16:59 BlockMen *i mean a diferent program with does same like cmake
17:00 rubenwardy jordan4ibanez: I like your voice
17:00 jordan4ibanez Thank you
17:00 * Kacey wishes ShadowNnja|Away would stop being away
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17:01 rubenwardy sfan5: you should update this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4596
17:01 rubenwardy and put [Updated: <date>] in the title
17:02 sfan5 rubenwardy: ok
17:03 * Kacey is going to rage quit this project
17:04 thexyz works fine for me
17:06 sfan5 rubenwardy: done! http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=66382
17:07 Zeg9 BlockMen, cmake saves your custom settings in CMakeCache.txt
17:09 Kacey GAAH!!!
17:10 BlockMen Zeg9, then i don't get it. CMakeCache.txt says now "IRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR:PATH=DIR/irrlicht-1.7.1/include/", so that is correct
17:10 Zeg9 Have you checked if in this folder, there is a irrTypes.h?
17:11 Exio /?
17:11 BlockMen but when i compile it does not find the irrlicht-files
17:11 Exio in windows?
17:11 Exio on;2~*
17:11 BlockMen Zeg9, ya
17:11 BlockMen Exio, ya
17:12 Kacey THIS IS ANNOYING!!!!!!!!!
17:13 BlockMen thexyz, could you upload a project-folder for vs?
17:13 BlockMen maybe it could work that way?
17:13 Jordach jesus upgrading apt-get is a pain
17:14 thexyz later, not at home right now
17:14 * Kacey is attempting to not rage because of this
17:15 Kacey how do i take a screenshot in windows?
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17:17 rubenwardy thanks sfan5 :)
17:18 BlockMen thexyz,ok thank you in advance!
17:18 BlockMen kacey, F12
17:18 BlockMen or press "PRINT"
17:18 BlockMen but then it is just in clipboard
17:19 Kacey no not in minetest but of my screen at anytime
17:19 rubenwardy Kacey: http://www.roundpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Print-Screen-Button.jpg
17:19 BlockMen then "PRINT" and you can copy from clipboard then
17:21 Kacey i have hit that button. it doesnt work on 8
17:22 rubenwardy You then have to paste it into a photo editer
17:22 rubenwardy It does not save it, only copies it
17:23 Kacey can someone help me finish this project?
17:23 rubenwardy what is it?
17:23 BlockMen http://www.howtogeek.com/122181/how-to-take-a-screenshot-in-windows-8-with-no-extra-software/
17:24 Kacey a 4-bit decoder to 7-segment display using digilines
17:25 BlockMen i g2g...bye everyone
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17:25 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/common: Add copper and bronze c82c74898e 2013-03-28T09:50:08-07:00 http://git.io/N-Xbdw
17:26 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaHd4aw/Screenshot%20(2).png there
17:27 Kacey what is wrong with my code?
17:27 Zeg9 0mpldr is currently unreachable :/
17:28 PilzAdam Zeg9, works for me
17:28 Zeg9 :/
17:28 Kacey http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ we should use ruby instead of lua for mesecons
17:28 Kacey rubycontrollers
17:28 Kacey not luacontrollers
17:28 Jeija Good idea, Kacey; You should implement a ruby parser in lua!
17:29 Kacey ...
17:29 Exio hahahaha
17:29 Exio ruby
17:29 Jordach Y U NO USE PYTHON
17:29 Kacey ican barely get digilines to work but ill put that on the back burner
17:29 Exio python and ruby
17:29 Exio OOP
17:30 * rubenwardy commited to rubenwardy/food: "Texture fixes and mod support fixes" http://tinyurl.com/fdverpush
17:31 Exio lol
17:32 Kacey ooh this would be cool to have...
17:32 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Add aliases for moreores' copper and bronze items 3db7bafb39 2013-03-28T10:31:41-07:00 http://git.io/nmr6hg
17:33 Kacey im learning ruby
17:36 khonkhortisan Kacey, don't use parentheses except in the condition. Then-end is good enough for surrounding the statement(s).
17:37 Kacey ?
17:37 khonkhortisan if (condition) then statement end
17:37 khonkhortisan not if (condition) then (statement) end
17:39 Kacey aah i see now
17:39 khonkhortisan "if mem.a1 = false" sets it to false
17:40 khonkhortisan and returns false, I think
17:41 Kacey so "if mem.a1 == false ..."
17:43 Kacey here khonkhortisan join my server
17:43 khonkhortisan Yes. And that actually doesn't need parantheses between ands
17:43 khonkhortisan I would but I'm leaving soon
17:44 Kacey i was keeping it neat
17:44 Exio install drracket Kacey
17:44 Kacey ?
17:44 Exio http://racket-lang.org/
17:45 Exio http://docs.racket-lang.org/drracket/
17:45 Kacey no no
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17:46 Kacey would a ruby-lua interpreter work Jeija?
17:47 Kacey call lua from ruby
17:47 rubenwardy (5:28:53 PM) Jeija: Good idea, Kacey; You should implement a ruby parser in lua!
17:47 rubenwardy sarcasm ^^^
17:47 Exio Kacey: the stuff is already slow, if you want to need 10 minutes for loading 10 lines of ruby in MT
17:49 * Kacey wants rubycontrollers
17:50 Exio meh
17:50 Kacey they would be easy
17:50 Kacey to program
17:50 Exio lua is already easy
17:50 Kacey once implemented
17:50 Kacey O.o
17:50 Exio ruby is shit for programming simple things
17:50 Kacey not for me
17:50 Exio layer 8 problem.
17:50 Kacey i am bad with lua
17:51 Exio learn it properly
17:51 * v2px too wants rubycontrollers
17:51 * v2px doesn't like lua
17:51 Exio people wants OOP for small things
17:51 Exio what is next, java?
17:51 rubenwardy someone stop Hybrid Dog from posting
17:51 v2px no. the next logical step from oop is not java
17:53 Exio just saying
17:53 PilzAdam sfan5, spam: http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&amp;user_id=3419
17:53 Exio OOP is not for small things, it just makes shitty code
17:55 sfan5 time to ban hybrid dog for spamming
17:55 * Kacey has rage quit his project
17:56 rubenwardy he means well, but he is wrong
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17:57 * Jordach finally managed to VNC into my vps
17:58 PilzAdam sfan5, dont ban him, just send a warning
17:58 sfan5 ok
17:58 sfan5 Jordach: your vps has a gui?
17:59 Jordach sfan5, no
17:59 Jordach debian6
17:59 sfan5 then how vnc?
17:59 Jordach i had to install xfce manually
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18:00 sfan5 why do you install a x system on a vps?
18:01 Jordach sfan5, because i hate working with terminals
18:01 Exio because 1337ness
18:01 Exio and you love wasting resources
18:01 Infinity_69 hi
18:01 Exio just throwing cpu power, what is already limited, in virtualized hardware
18:01 Jordach once i've compiled everything and installed mods, it'll be cmd
18:01 Jordach just doing the hard part in a gui as its easier
18:02 Exio ah, 'kay
18:02 Jordach my VPS has a decent cpu, make -j2 compiles in about 2 mins
18:03 Exio just need to think having more stuff == less players what the server can handle :P
18:03 Exio more stuff running*
18:03 Jordach Things to do: install homedecor, moreblocks, moreores
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18:03 bas080 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/419967/Dualport/Screenshot%20-%2003282013%20-%2007%3A02%3A05%20PM.png
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18:04 PilzAdam Jordach, dont install morores until Calinou removes gold, bronze and copper from it with latest git
18:04 Jordach FFS
18:04 Jordach not to mention homedecor needs an update
18:04 Jordach (that also uses moreores)
18:05 Jordach Exio, according to my usage, im using 50% of my allotted 128mb
18:05 Jordach this is free btw
18:05 bas080 Why are these materials being removed?! :(
18:06 bas080 from moreores?
18:06 Jordach VanessaE, i managed to install x server, xfce4 and minetest on a 128mb ram vps
18:06 Exio wait wait wait
18:06 Exio 128mb of ram for a .. mt server?
18:06 Jordach Exio, me PilzAdam and RealBadAngel were on it earlier
18:06 Jordach the lag was about 0.035 rtt
18:06 Exio bas080: because they are now on default
18:06 Exio wow, nice
18:07 Jordach (europe hosted)
18:07 Jordach http://host1free.com
18:07 Exio so, the only thing what uses a damn ammount of ram is the client?
18:07 Jordach there
18:07 Exio oh, those?
18:07 Exio i know them
18:07 Jordach Exio, free tier is pretty goofd
18:07 Jordach good*
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18:09 * VanessaE peeksin
18:09 rubenwardy Jordach: I use http://serversfree.com
18:10 rubenwardy oh wait, it is a vps
18:11 Jordach hey VanessaE
18:12 * Calinou received their PSU :p
18:12 Calinou hi
18:12 Exio what PSU Calinou?
18:14 Jordach VanessaE, taste the rainbow
18:14 Calinou antec HCG 520
18:14 Calinou inb4 seasonic is butter :P
18:14 VanessaE meh
18:15 rubenwardy I can not believe this is so popular: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/susanwilson/9-year-old-building-an-rpg-to-prove-her-brothers-w?ref=users
18:15 rubenwardy they will never get a game
18:15 Calinou sfan5: your bot now has a cool avatar :P
18:16 sfan5 :D
18:16 Calinou (it's the red eclipse bot icon)
18:16 Calinou and a title :P
18:17 sfan5 ...a title
18:17 Calinou first member to have a custom title :P
18:17 VanessaE Calinou: well, I guess you better talk nekogloop into absorbing mithril and tin into glooptest ...
18:17 VanessaE looks like they aren't gonna make it to upstream
18:17 Jordach Calinou, i want a special title now
18:17 Jordach :(
18:18 rubenwardy There should be a "Core Developer" title
18:18 Jordach and respectable member
18:18 sfan5 Jordach: your title is now "The one that installed XFCE on a VPS"
18:18 Calinou don't touch titles too much :P
18:18 Jordach sfan5, that's still awesome
18:18 sfan5 why did my brain insert "that" instead of "who"
18:19 Kacey VanessaE, i had a great idea earlier
18:19 Calinou Jordach: what about "unrespectable member"
18:19 sfan5 haha
18:19 VanessaE hm?
18:19 Jordach Calinou, save that for landmine
18:19 Calinou just "Land Mine"
18:20 Kacey rubycontrollers
18:20 VanessaE rubycontroller?  er...
18:21 VanessaE you wanna make a Ruby interpreter in Lua? ;)
18:22 Kacey im looking one up now
18:22 sfan5 yo! make a ruby interpreter in brainfuck which is interpreted by a lua brainfuck interpreter which's code is interpreted by a c program, that runs in a virtual machine emulated using JavaScript( http://bellard.org/jslinux )
18:23 Kacey since lua is not where i am good
18:24 hmmmm yo dawg
18:24 hmmmm i heard yo and yo dawg like yo yos
18:24 hmmmm so i put yo dawg in a yo yo so yo can yo yo yo dawg while yo dawg yo yos, yo
18:25 sfan5 yo
18:25 VanessaE hmmmm: kaeza already beat you to that one last night :)
18:25 hmmmm meh.
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18:26 Jordach how do i force minetest server to read the minetest.conf
18:26 rubenwardy restart?
18:26 Jordach PilzAdam, read my last msg
18:26 markveidemanis smth like auth_reload
18:27 Jordach markveidemanis, wrong
18:27 PilzAdam Jordach, restart
18:27 BrandonReese joined #minetest
18:27 markveidemanis i said LIKE auth_reload
18:27 markveidemanis conf_reload
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18:28 markveidemanis PING :hobana.freenode.net  UH-OH
18:28 markveidemanis PING TIMEOUT?
18:30 sfan5 you need to answer pings or freenode will disconnect you because you didn't answer
18:31 Calinou there is no /conf_reload
18:31 Jordach !up 94.249.210.106
18:31 MinetestBot 94.249.210.106:30000 is up (0.137ms)
18:32 Jordach 94.249.210.106 : 30000 is my server
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18:34 Calinou !up Jordach
18:34 MinetestBot Calinou: Invalid Address
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18:34 Jordach ~sex Calinou
18:35 * Calinou needs more alcohol first
18:35 us_0gb Sex? Perhaps I came at a bad time.
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18:36 markveidemanis LOL
18:37 Jordach its a Red Eclipse bot thing
18:37 Jordach <Jordach> ~sex Calinou
18:37 Jordach * redroid grabs archfarker and puts Calinou's mouth on their..............
18:37 Calinou us_0gb: that's what she said
18:37 Calinou "They've said it a total of 2999 times"
18:37 Calinou ^ what redroid says when you say that's what (anything) said :P
18:37 Jordach anyways, lets see how much my free server can take
18:38 Jordach i have a lag of 0.027
18:44 rubenwardy ./Jordach --annoy Calinou
18:44 Jordach hey Calinou your tower suck ass
18:45 Calinou tower sucks for duel, longestyard is better
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18:46 Jordach Calinou, instagib, duel, medieval ftw
18:48 Calinou more like expert-resize-survivor-kaboom-jetpack-multi-quick defend-the-flag on warp
18:49 Jordach \O/
18:54 mauvebic ok... half the forum's threads have been bumped by some stupid bot
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18:55 Exio blame sfan5
18:55 Exio (-bot)
18:55 sfan5 mauvebic: i can't post to topics without bumping them
18:56 mauvebic your bot is bumping all the topics without adding any new content, very misleading
18:56 mauvebic and we are all (unpaid) people here, dont expect them to take orders from bots
18:57 rubenwardy sfan5: admins can silent post?
18:57 mauvebic get enough of that crap from work honestly
18:57 sfan5 rubenwardy: theres a silent post feature in punbb?
18:58 sfan5 mauvebic: its not an order, its to clean up the mod releases forum
18:59 sfan5 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79537#p79537  <- no shit sherlock!
19:00 mauvebic well whats the point of having moderators if the job is done by an (impersonal) bot?
19:01 mauvebic i much preferred when the output of said bot was focused to *one* thread
19:02 mauvebic and it wont be long before everyone else uses bots for SEo
19:04 mauvebic and tbh, the bot is incredibly dumb, i do have mod tags in all my thread titles and if 'No Dependencies Found' then that means there are no dependencies
19:05 mauvebic whats the python equiv of string.find(title, '[mod]') ?
19:05 rubenwardy sfan5: I might just be silent edit
19:05 rubenwardy *it
19:05 sfan5 every rank >= moderator can silent edit
19:05 Jordach apparently goddammit is in the xfce dictionary
19:06 Jordach my server is online!
19:06 Jordach !up 94.249.210.106
19:06 MinetestBot 94.249.210.106:30000 is up (0.119ms)
19:09 hmmmm it checked that in about a tenth of a millisecond?
19:09 hmmmm jeez
19:09 hmmmm they must be in the same datacenter
19:10 Jordach hmmmm, come visit
19:11 Exio !up minetest.org
19:11 MinetestBot minetest.org:30000 is up (0.360ms)
19:11 Exio woo
19:16 hmmmm http://i.imgur.com/Q3b9a7j.jpg
19:17 Jordach hmmmm, classic
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19:29 sfan5 !up localhost-ipv6
19:29 MinetestBot sfan5: Invalid Address
19:30 sfan5 :(
19:30 sfan5 !up ::1
19:30 MinetestBot sfan5: Invalid Address
19:30 Jordach sfan5, finally,  just used screen to keep my server running when im not there
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19:48 Jordach PilzAdam, is there other versions of ore_type = "scatter";
19:49 sfan5 "this banner gave me cancer: http://i.imgur.com/edT39ol.png"
19:50 PilzAdam Jordach, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L375
19:50 Jordach sfan5, youve been oddly chatty today
19:51 sfan5 is that a problem?
19:51 Jordach nope
19:51 sfan5 its just: i had more free time for minetest today
19:56 rubenwardy bye all
19:57 celeron55 v2px: i managed to make launchpad build 0.4.5 packages
19:57 celeron55 v2px: you may want to try if they work or not
19:58 celeron55 (i'm not running anything capable of using those packages)
19:59 sfan5 i could also test them
20:06 us_0gb PilzAdam: Okay, I fixed the itemstack-returning issue in my pull request.
20:06 PilzAdam saw it
20:06 us_0gb Okay. I'm out then. Later, folks!
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20:10 Jordach people try
20:10 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk
20:10 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 seems to be down
20:10 Jordach bitch
20:11 Jordach (it did just get registered, so dns probably wont be fixed for some time)
20:11 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk
20:12 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 seems to be down
20:12 Jordach :(
20:12 Jordach http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-280313-201215.php
20:12 Jordach ^ proof
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20:13 sfan5 !up jordachscity.tk
20:13 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 seems to be down
20:14 Jordach see zimage.com image i just uploaded
20:14 us_0gb It turns out I don't have to go after all.
20:14 sfan5 doesn't work
20:14 Jordach us_0gb, try host1free for a vps
20:15 Jordach sfan5, give it some time
20:16 us_0gb Jordach, okay, bookmarked.
20:16 Jordach us_0gb, im currently running one on 94.249.210.106
20:16 us_0gb 2GiB disk space. I'm almost at that limit.
20:17 us_0gb I was at 1.5 GiB, last I checked.
20:17 Jordach so thats why your server went down?
20:17 us_0gb No.
20:18 us_0gb My server keeps going down because the operating system doesn't like the network interface card.
20:18 us_0gb Or something along those lines.
20:18 Jordach us_0gb, eth0 or wifi
20:18 us_0gb eth0.
20:18 sfan5 a vps NEVER uses wifi
20:18 Jordach mines a sis 600 @ 100mb
20:19 us_0gb I don't use wifi either.
20:21 Jordach us_0gb, happy that you now have a infinite lava source
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20:23 us_0gb No, because I still don't have it.
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20:23 us_0gb He won't move it to common, where we can use it in custom games.
20:23 LAD ... does any one know where the code for default time when spawning into a world?
20:23 Jordach i was hinting at the custom gamemode
20:24 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk
20:24 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.260ms)
20:24 Jordach WOOT
20:24 Jordach IT LIVES
20:24 Jordach sfan5, ^^
20:24 sfan5 :D
20:25 ShadowNinja OldCoder: use sasl :-)
20:25 LAD ...
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20:25 LAD hmmm i feel icnored again :(
20:25 OldCoder ShadowNinja, Explain in PM; interested
20:25 OldCoder LAD hello
20:26 LAD hia
20:27 Jordach OldCoder, managed to setup my own server today
20:27 OldCoder Good!
20:27 LAD :) good job Jordach :)
20:27 Jordach at jordachscity.tk
20:28 Jordach OldCoder, its debian 6
20:28 LAD does any one know where the default time is coded into minetest?
20:28 Jordach and yes, i had to install vnc4server and use xfce to do work
20:28 Jordach LAD, no idea, but why?
20:28 OldCoder Jordach, sounds like progress
20:29 Jordach sfan5, y u remove my title
20:29 LAD ...
20:29 LAD im trying to help moontest and they need it be night all the time
20:29 LAD i know how to stop time
20:29 Jordach LAD, time_speed = 0, /time 0
20:29 LAD time_speed = 0
20:29 LAD i know
20:29 sfan5 Jordach: i didn't remove your title7
20:29 sfan5 -7
20:29 LAD but...
20:29 * Jordach slaps VanessaE
20:30 LAD the default minetest game will spawn you in the day time not at night and that's what im trying to figer out
20:31 bdjnk set_timeofday(val) ?
20:31 bdjnk http://dev.minetest.net/EnvRef:get_meta
20:32 v2px celeron55: seems to work just fine. thanks a lot!
20:32 VanessaE ow.
20:32 * VanessaE falls over, dead.
20:32 LAD <bdjnk> set_timeofday(val) ? does that work ?? i dont think you can just make your own thing up
20:32 Jordach did you change my title
20:33 VanessaE title?
20:33 bdjnk LAD: make it up? check link to dev docs ^^
20:34 Jordach server down for a few
20:34 LAD i have i;ve cheked ever line readible with nootpad++
20:36 LAD hmmi would ask c55 but he kinda scares me :)
20:36 LunaVorax joined #minetest
20:38 LAD but eh what ever...
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20:43 sfan5 Jordach: its pretty dark on your server: http://sfan5.dyndns.org/movie.mov
20:44 Jordach OH DEAR GOD
20:44 Jordach http://bdcraft.net/download-bdcraft-texturepacks#testbdcraft
20:44 PilzAdam woot
20:44 Jordach thexyz, is servers.minetest.ru dynamic?
20:45 sfan5 !server
20:45 sfan5 yay
20:45 MinetestBot sfan5: NotObamaLand | zenoheld.minetest.net:30000   up (43.492%)
20:49 LAD !server
20:49 LAD hmmm
20:49 MinetestBot LAD: Mrtux's Minetest server | minetest.org:30001   up (74.385%)
20:49 LAD wait
20:49 LAD is it random?
20:49 LAD !server
20:50 MinetestBot LAD: D-L-K Networks GameServer | game.d-l-k.net:30000   up (99.375%)
20:50 mrtux seems ramdom
20:50 sfan5 LAD: yes
20:50 mrtux *random
20:50 Jordach as in, the master server list
20:56 Jordach SHIT
20:56 Jordach OH SHIT
20:56 Jordach TWO PLAYERS HAVE THE ENTITY BUG
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20:59 BlockMen hi
20:59 Jordach hey BlockMen
20:59 BlockMen is Traxie21 up here?
21:00 artur99 joined #minetest
21:00 BlockMen and how doin, Jordach?
21:01 us_0gb Hello.
21:01 Jordach BlockMen, alright, just setup my own server
21:01 BlockMen oh, nice
21:01 BlockMen where i find?
21:01 Jordach jordachscity.tk
21:01 BlockMen 30000?
21:01 Jordach yes
21:01 BlockMen and hi 0gb
21:02 BlockMen Jordach, will try out
21:02 Jordach its on the most cheap ass vpn there can be: FREE
21:02 BlockMen i like free :)
21:03 BlockMen Jordach, "Couldn't resolve adress"
21:03 artur99 hi
21:04 Jordach 94.249.210.106
21:04 Jordach try that
21:04 BlockMen that works
21:04 artur99 Open command prompt by going in the Minetest installation folder, then in the "bin" folder, hold Shift, do a right click on a empty file (not on minetest.exe), click "Open command window here".
21:04 artur99 I cant see "Open command window here"
21:05 v2px yeah then open a terminal and cd to the minetest dir
21:05 artur99 im on windows
21:05 v2px oh okay
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21:05 v2px don't know then. I havend used windows since XP
21:05 Jordach artur99, i have a bat script that opens the current folder in cmd
21:06 artur99 where to download it?
21:07 Jordach https://github.com/iamgreaser/buldthensnip/raw/master/opencmd.bat
21:08 artur99 should i write this: E:\Minetest\minetest-0.4.5\bin\libvorbisfile.dll ?
21:10 Jordach artur99, .dll files are only written by compiled programs and not MD
21:10 Jordach CMD
21:11 artur99 and how to do that?
21:11 Jordach google it
21:12 artur99 empty file means a .txt empty file?
21:12 artur99 and what name?
21:12 jordan4ibanez I have the most excellent idea
21:13 jordan4ibanez what if we take that weather branch
21:13 jordan4ibanez have it so that instead of clouds, the sky turns grey, the sun and moon turn off, and it rains in desert and regular biomes, and snows in hill biomes
21:14 jordan4ibanez change it so that it only snows and rains within a radius of the player's client...say view_distance/3
21:14 jordan4ibanez and if anybody has anything to improve on that awesome
21:15 jordan4ibanez and the weather is controlled by the server
21:15 artur99 America will really atack the North Korea?
21:16 jordan4ibanez wtf happened to sfan5's bot
21:16 jordan4ibanez http://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?id=11
21:16 jordan4ibanez holy crap
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21:23 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: thats called "the power of /usr/bin/python2.7"
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21:24 jordan4ibanez it's called it's spamming
21:24 jordan4ibanez !!1!!!one!
21:24 jordan4ibanez ban the bawt!
21:24 mauvebic +1
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21:33 Jordach hey NekoGloop
21:34 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Jordach's head
21:34 Jordach NekoGloop, i got a server going
21:35 NekoGloop cool story bro
21:35 Jordach jordachscity.tk : 30000
21:35 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk
21:36 dante123 joined #minetest
21:36 Jordach wheres minetestbot
21:36 Jordach sfan5, ^
21:38 Jordach hey dante123
21:38 Jordach BlockMen, http://host1free.com
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21:39 BlockMen thx, Jordach
21:42 jordan4ibanez can you host a minetest server on there?
21:42 Jordach jordan4ibanez, thats what jordachscity.tk is powered by
21:42 jordan4ibanez it's FREE?!
21:42 jordan4ibanez FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
21:42 Jordach yes
21:42 Jordach FREEEE
21:43 jordan4ibanez Sounds like a virus
21:43 jordan4ibanez pics or no proof
21:44 artur99 can i set width and height in a post for a image
21:44 artur99 ?
21:44 Jordach jordan4ibanez, http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-280313-214419.php
21:44 jordan4ibanez sfan5 http://youtu.be/7a7opPCSfnM
21:44 Tecan (7a7opPCSfnM) "Let's Swear Minecraft mit Gronkh :: Teil 2, Folge #101 bis #199" by "yetanothertubeuser" is "Entertainment" - Length: 0:11:53
21:45 jordan4ibanez But how do I know you're really a jordach?
21:45 Jordach because i have a cloak
21:45 artur99 can i set width and height in a post for a image?
21:45 artur99 on forum?
21:45 jordan4ibanez Oh okay
21:45 jordan4ibanez But spyhunter
21:45 jordan4ibanez SPYHUNTER
21:46 Jordach PilzAdam, youre the Bear Grylls of Minetest
21:47 Jordach jordan4ibanez, open up putty and ssh to my server
21:47 jordan4ibanez I'd rather not get @ vir|_|z
21:47 jordan4ibanez So how do I set this poop up
21:47 Jordach jordan4ibanez, they use linux, why would they?
21:48 jordan4ibanez If they use linux, why are they making me install windows software
21:48 Jordach jordan4ibanez, AdBlock FTW
21:48 jordan4ibanez Oh wow
21:48 jordan4ibanez I'm a derpin today
21:49 Kacey do we have a link reader again?
21:49 Kacey http://forum.minetest.net/
21:49 Kacey http://youtu.be/7a7opPCSfnM
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21:50 PilzAdam Kacey, gronkh :-)
21:51 jordan4ibanez Sorry, but we think you are bot. You cant post message on this forum.
21:51 jordan4ibanez You are right. I am bot.
21:52 jordan4ibanez The english with that needs to be updated a little lol
21:53 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/comment?lc=XPtWx-wU0YgtEJX7zPeuRhgDY_uasVnsM29NDC9bDd4
21:53 BlockMen PilzAdam, what is with gronkh?
21:53 artur99 Thanks for help >--<
21:54 PilzAdam BlockMen, nothing except that hes the best LetsPlayer ever
21:54 BlockMen agree. thats how i get known minecraft
21:54 BlockMen and then minetest
21:55 BlockMen he should make a Let's Test of Minetest :D
21:58 jordan4ibanez excess flood lunavorax? spammer mcjammer!
21:59 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: why did you "send" me that video?
21:59 jordan4ibanez Because, there is no reason
21:59 BrandonReese Jordach, can I have interact privs on your new server?
22:00 jordan4ibanez jordach left dude
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22:01 BrandonReese jordan4ibanez, you are correct, I suppose I should pay attantion to the exit messages when looking back at the conversation
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22:20 Jordach im back
22:20 * Jordach pokes BlockMen
22:22 jordan4ibanez jordach
22:22 Jordach yes
22:22 jordan4ibanez how do you ssh to your server?
22:23 jordan4ibanez I'm trying it but it's denying me access
22:23 Jordach jordan4ibanez, install putty
22:23 jordan4ibanez did
22:23 jordan4ibanez port 22
22:23 jordan4ibanez infinityserver.luporz.com
22:23 jordan4ibanez root login fails
22:23 Jordach goto the web admin panel
22:23 jordan4ibanez tell me in pm
22:23 Jordach alright
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22:35 BlockMen Jordach,sry..was kinda away
22:36 BlockMen wb
22:40 jordan4ibanez wait a second
22:40 jordan4ibanez the rain and snow mod
22:40 jordan4ibanez that can be improved!
22:40 jordan4ibanez air can be mapgen aliased to weather block
22:41 jordan4ibanez weather block can be an abm, if there is a block above it, it becomes air
22:41 jordan4ibanez if there is air above a weather block it becomes air
22:41 jordan4ibanez it doesn't have to be an abm, but called on_block_update or something
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22:44 Jordach BlockMen, nice place
22:45 MinetestBot joined #minetest
22:46 BlockMen Jordach, not finished yet
22:47 Jordach cool
22:47 NekoGloop how does one connect to your server?
22:48 Jordach NekoGloop, jordachscity.tk
22:49 Jordach NekoGloop, what did you just do
22:49 NekoGloop client switch
22:50 Jordach ahhh
22:50 NekoGloop which fucking one do i need
22:50 Jordach latest git
22:50 Jordach hey rarkenin
22:50 rarkenin Hi.
22:51 BlockMen im playing with 0.4.5 and it works fine
22:51 rarkenin I'm in another window, but I'll hear if someone mentions me.
22:51 rarkenin Can I get some feedback on my new meshes?
22:51 Jordach rarkenin, id add them to my creative server but
22:51 rarkenin They're not ready for adding yet.
22:51 ShadowNinja sfan5: /mode +v-o MinetestBot sfan5
22:52 ShadowNinja or better yet /msg chanserv flags #minetest MinetestBot +V
22:53 rarkenin Jordach: What are the problems keeping you from adding them? I'm just trying to find out how much more work is necessary.
22:54 BlockMen ok, i'm going now
22:54 BlockMen could someone tell Traxie21 (if comes on) that doors can be updated on server? thx in advice
22:55 BlockMen bye everyone
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22:56 LAD ...
22:56 * LAD wounders how do  you close one of you minetest topics?
22:57 Jordach LAD, thats a moderator's job
22:57 LAD ...
22:58 LAD TADA PROBLEM SOLVED THANKS MAN
22:58 LAD Minetest is so helpful (im not joking the comunitee is amazingly helpful))
23:04 us_0gb Hmm? rarkenin wants us to mention him?
23:05 rarkenin No, if anyone needs me, I'll be notified. "mention" means to include a username in a chat message to get a user's attention.
23:05 us_0gb Yeah. I know. Ha ha.
23:06 us_0gb I was going to make several posts with your name to keep making your computer alert you, but decided once was enough.
23:07 rarkenin Does anyone want to collaborate on the mesh?
23:08 us_0gb It sounds like a nice project, but I suck at art of any form.
23:11 NekoGloop Jordach, here have a mandatory sagacic old guy's house
23:12 rarkenin I especially need people to do textures(jojoa1997, hint hint).
23:14 Jordach rarkenin, i do good texture
23:14 Jordach textures*
23:14 rarkenin OK. I'll finish up the mesh, upload it with the UV layout, and make it available to you.
23:14 rarkenin And forum mods around?
23:14 rarkenin any*
23:17 NekoGloop Jordach, would i be able to use that free VPS for a MC server?
23:17 Jordach probably
23:17 Jordach 128mb of ram wont work#
23:17 Jordach not to mention they are LINUX
23:18 NekoGloop ew ew ew
23:18 NekoGloop get it off, it BURRRRRRRRRRNS
23:18 NekoGloop 1GB ram is barely a playable server..
23:20 us_0gb What's wrong with Linux? At least it isn't Windows ....
23:20 * Jordach high fives us_0gb
23:22 Jordach PilzAdam, add obsidian stairs and slasb
23:22 Jordach slabs*
23:22 PilzAdam no
23:23 Jordach and why not?
23:23 us_0gb Hmm. New ores in common. I could lazily start updatedevversion.sh, which will download and compile the whole thing in three clicks, or I could just update common, which would take more effort, but would be less load on the network ....
23:24 rarkenin us_0gb: I think a few minutes of extra lag won't hurt that much.
23:25 PilzAdam Jordach, slabs and stairs for every block isnt good
23:25 us_0gb I was actually worried more about the further out on the network. The download takes seconds, and the compile isn't on the same computer as the server.
23:26 us_0gb I actually wouldn't want stairs or slabs from the harder nodes, such as obsidian and mese. Just softer nodes, such as wood and stone.
23:27 us_0gb Now if you said obsidian GLASS stairs ... maybe that would be cool.
23:27 rarkenin Yes. There's more reason for glasslike-node stairs.
23:28 us_0gb Actually, that would be cool. I don't think it belongs in default, but it would be cool.
23:28 * us_0gb imagins replacing the stairs in the tunnel with glass stairs
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23:29 rarkenin Glass can be melted down easily. At least by investing heat/fuel, we should have glass stairs.
23:29 mauvebic Wow: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/03/28/2146221/gnome-38-released-featuring-new-classic-mode?utm_source=slashdot&amp;utm_medium=twitter
23:30 jordan4ibanez Idea: big furnace, like crafting box, only it needs to be smelted to craft
23:30 us_0gb Well, I won't take a side on this. When I do take side, peopl jump down my throat, so I'll reserve taking sides for things I actually care about.
23:30 us_0gb *people
23:30 mauvebic people will jump down throats regardless :p
23:30 mauvebic or climb up arses, depending where youre from
23:31 us_0gb Mostly people leave me alone when I don't express an opinion.
23:31 us_0gb Of course, some topic are ALWAYS worth it.
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23:31 mauvebic which ones?
23:33 rarkenin The ones 0gb_us has changed his profile pic or forum signature for. :P
23:33 us_0gb For example, anything having to do wit "Windows being good". Windows is the worst excuse for an operating system I have ever seen, and I won't sit back and listen to people say otherwise.
23:33 us_0gb *with
23:33 us_0gb Hmm? That would be two. I won the first, and lost the second.
23:33 mauvebic well lets not pretend linux is polished or apple is affordable either
23:34 mauvebic depends what you have patience for :p
23:34 mauvebic malware scanning or bash scripting lol
23:34 Jordach my server is updated with obsidian stairs
23:35 mauvebic or just plain being braindead (apple) lol
23:35 us_0gb Linux may be unpolished, but it still runs way better than Windows. OS X is certainly expensive, and you are required to use Apple hardware, but it's worth it. And if you don't have money for Apple, there's BSD, Linux, and others for free.
23:36 mauvebic i guess when it comes to OS's i dont get involved, theyve all been frustrating experiences (the OSs) at one time or another lol
23:36 mauvebic though when ubuntu went fisher-price i thought it was the end of easy/usable linux lol thank god for arch
23:37 us_0gb I had to switch to Linux because Apple won't let me install OS X on my own hardware. I ended up liking Linux better, but I understand the "don't have Apple hardware" thing.
23:37 jordan4ibanez ubuntu's good if you want an easy os
23:37 jordan4ibanez every os has problems
23:37 us_0gb When I tried Ubuntu, I was satisfied to not have to use Windows. But then it dawned on me that it was free, and I could try something else.
23:38 rarkenin Lol: http://i.imgur.com/TKCBfGF.png
23:38 us_0gb I switched to Mint. Then I learned I could use Ubuntu without Unity, so I went back to Ubuntu.
23:38 us_0gb Now I'm considering Debian.
23:38 mauvebic alot of people do find arch frustrating - but those are the kinds of people that install/uninstall shit all day long for giggles and flash all the eye candy - arch is for getting work done lol
23:38 rarkenin Oops, may have mispasted. http://imgur.com/TKCBfGF
23:38 rarkenin Oh, wait, no
23:38 us_0gb "bettar"?
23:39 us_0gb "chek"?
23:39 us_0gb ...
23:39 us_0gb Is that from your browser, or did you find that image?
23:39 rarkenin That is from my browser.
23:40 mauvebic debian is almost as bloated as ubuntu, and in my experience, the binary drivers were even slower/worse
23:40 Jordach us_0gb, come to my server
23:40 Jordach i just made obsidian glass stairs
23:40 us_0gb Hmm. Well, there are a lot for me to try yet. I want to try a fairly large selection of operating systems when I have time.
23:41 mauvebic if i had to switch away for whatever reason, id try slack before suse or gentoo
23:41 us_0gb Jordache, is your server announced? If not, address/port?
23:41 Jordach jordachscity.tk
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23:42 us_0gb It won't load. Starting second client.
23:43 us_0gb I can't resolve that address.
23:44 Jordach not everyones dns server knows of it fully
23:45 us_0gb That's okay. Is the one in the server list the right one? It has an IP address instead, so name resolution won't be an issue.
23:45 us_0gb And ... I can fly. I hope that's intentional.
23:46 us_0gb And ... I lost conection.
23:46 Jordach us_0gb, i killed it to add some mods
23:46 us_0gb My client is incompatible, it seems.
23:48 Jordach us_0gb, you require latest git
23:48 us_0gb Ah. I have that, but haven't linked it in my menu yet, so I usually use the stable client.
23:49 Jordach it was the only version i could pull in a hurry
23:50 us_0gb GAH! It's the annoying version of fences. It LOOKS like you can jump over them, but you can't.
23:50 Jordach shift jump them,
23:50 mauvebic what about water? can practically bounce 10m high bouncing off it lol
23:50 mauvebic *bounce, bouncing lol
23:51 us_0gb I figgured out how to bypass it with shift a while back, plus I seem to have fly, I just don't know why people love that version of fences so much. They are bothersome at best.
23:51 mauvebic not to mention most (healthy) people can jump fences several meters high
23:52 mauvebic i dont think 1m high wood post fences are meant to keep people out so much as keep farm animals in lol
23:52 rarkenin mauvebic: As in jump, or climb over at a slower pace?
23:52 rarkenin I'd love to see someone jump over a fence 1.5 times their height.
23:52 mauvebic dunno how long it takes you lol
23:52 us_0gb The glass stairs look funny at certain angles. Without a custom image, I don't know how that would be fixable though.
23:53 mauvebic but yeah around 14~16yrs i could get over tall fences pretty quick
23:53 rarkenin I can climb over a prety high fence, but jumping over one that is appreciably greater than 1.5 meters is hard.
23:53 mauvebic but 1m high?
23:53 mauvebic get real lol
23:53 rarkenin Yeah, a meter is easy.
23:54 mauvebic well unless they make minetest fences two nodes high, you should be able to jump over them
23:54 rarkenin And it's not like I jump over hurdles competitively.
23:54 rarkenin But the client should allow "rockclimbing" on nodes that specify it.
23:54 mauvebic well no but we used to go for swims at night during heatwaves, city had awesome pools
23:54 us_0gb Yeah. If they were two nodes high, it would be fine, because it would be OBVIOUS that they were not jumpable.
23:54 rarkenin Being in upstate New York is better. Lakes aren't overchlorinated.
23:55 rarkenin Like, I swim competitively, and I STILL can't get over the chlorine irritation. But that's beside the point.
23:55 mauvebic i dont wanna know what they dump into lakes/rivers tho lol
23:56 Jordach us_0gb, do you want building privs
23:56 rarkenin Depends on the river/lake. This small lake that is a good jog from my house is actually realy clean and serene.
23:56 mauvebic dunno, 1 node high definately jumpable lol i made wrought-iron fences that high for my wifes gardens
23:56 rarkenin The river a mile from me, a whole other story. But we are getting off-topic.
23:56 rarkenin And yeah, these fences should be jumpable, and taller ones at least climbable.
23:57 us_0gb There's a small section of the railing missing at the top of this tower. And I didn't do it, I lack interact.
23:57 mauvebic the river nearest me had a mobster captain assasinated in it last year lol
23:57 rarkenin What city?
23:58 us_0gb I wasn't asking for interact. I was just proving my lack of guilt.
23:58 mauvebic http://www.cjad.com/CJADLocalNews/entry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10523206
23:58 mauvebic only mention cuz it was in the news this week lol
23:59 rarkenin Ah, I see,
23:59 mauvebic Sal (The Ironworker) Montagna, a former head of New York's notorious Bonanno crime family.
23:59 mauvebic so he's from your area :p

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