Time Nick Message 00:01 ShadowNinja Menche: bas080 says he didn't get any protect blocks on your server 00:01 Menche give_initial_stuff must have been disabled 00:01 Kacey there is a shop in the city hall 00:02 Menche he should have 10 now 00:03 NekoGloop|Laptop I didn't either. 00:03 Kacey there is a shop in the city hall 00:09 NekoGloop|Laptop Win8 seems like it has some faults (what doesn't) but is overall good. 00:11 ShadowNinja menche: do you have a way of just getting the chat messages and not digging/placing messages? 00:11 Menche getting them out of the logs? 00:11 ShadowNinja no, just seeing them 00:12 Menche no 00:12 ShadowNinja maybe if you overode minetest.chat_send_all 00:17 Menche how often is debug.txt written? 00:19 Menche if I "print" something in a mod, does that go into the debug.txt or just the console? 00:19 NekoGloop|Laptop No lag in MC with fancy graphics smooth lighting etc. 00:19 NekoGloop|Laptop This is beautiful. Fucking beautiful. My laptop is better than my PC. 00:22 hmmmm menche, printing in Lua goes to the "dstream", which goes to both the console and debug.txt by default 00:22 Menche ok thx 00:23 hmmmm "dstream", "errorstream" and "actionstream" are written to the console by default, and everything is written to debug.txt. at least, this is the case for the release versions of minetest. as of a week ago, the unstable git version doesn't log anything to debug.txt by default 00:24 NekoGloop|Laptop I guess this means I should be able to play MT with NO PROBLEMS. AT. ALL. 00:25 VanessaE NekoGloop|Laptop: now go to my server and drool ;) 00:25 VanessaE (because of how beautiful it is I mean) 00:25 NekoGloop|Laptop No, I seriously have shit I need to do. 00:25 VanessaE :( 00:25 NekoGloop|Laptop It was just bugging me to figure out if i could run MC 00:25 VanessaE MC???? 00:25 VanessaE blasphemer 00:25 VanessaE :) 00:26 NekoGloop|Laptop MC and MT each have different appeal. 00:26 NekoGloop|Laptop in MT, it's more fun to create, while in MC, the goal is to survive. 00:26 VanessaE NekoGloop|Laptop: you haven't played using Pilzadam's simple mobs then ;) 00:27 Menche how do I make a .zip archive? 00:27 VanessaE as I understand, they make creepers look tame :) 00:27 NekoGloop|Laptop I've yet not been able to. 00:27 NekoGloop|Laptop :) 00:27 VanessaE Menche: zip -9r filename.zip /path/to/compress 00:27 VanessaE ;-) 00:27 Menche oh, reversed the output and input folder 00:28 VanessaE (well that's the linux way of doing it, I was only joking in general since I assumed you were on windows :-) ) 00:28 Menche windows?!?!? me?!?! 00:28 NekoGloop|Laptop I'm on windows. :3 00:28 Menche eeew 00:28 VanessaE well what do I know :) 00:28 NekoGloop|Laptop /foreveralone 00:29 VanessaE in which case that command is indeed correct 00:29 Menche only the finest Arch linux ;) 00:29 Menche yep, it worked, thanks 00:29 VanessaE of course if you wanted to be a pain in the ass: tar jcvf filename.tar.bz2 /path/to/compress 00:29 VanessaE ;-) 00:29 khonkhortisan Where does minetest.setting_getbool() read from? env_meta? map_meta? 00:29 VanessaE (but I guess windows can handle those pretty easily too these days) 00:29 NekoGloop|Laptop I do believe i can. 00:29 Menche how is that a pain? only a few OS's can't decompress that 00:30 VanessaE Menche: a lot of win folks don't know how to handle a .zip file, much less a .tbz2 00:30 Menche only one, really 00:30 VanessaE I don't know why either, it's not hard to use google :) 00:30 ShadowNinja honkhortisan: minetest.conf 00:30 Menche of course, that one OS has like 80% market share or more :P 00:30 khonkhortisan Then what reads from the world? 00:31 ShadowNinja nothing that I know of atm 00:31 ShadowNinja you can save your own files in the world dir 00:31 khonkhortisan I want a flat world that doesn't destroy my other world 00:31 khonkhortisan s 00:32 ShadowNinja sapiers changes add that functionality however 00:32 NekoGloop|Laptop Menche, would that be osx? 00:32 Menche osx can't read .tar archives? 00:32 ShadowNinja set mg_params=flat 00:32 NekoGloop|Laptop dunno 00:32 Menche was referring to windows 00:32 ShadowNinja and remove it after creating the world 00:32 NekoGloop|Laptop as much as i hate linux, i hate osx more. 00:33 NekoGloop|Laptop and windows can't *natively* open .tar* archives. 00:33 NekoGloop|Laptop But there are plentiful programs that do so. 00:34 Menche VanessaE: does that command for zip use compression? 00:34 VanessaE Menche: the first one does, yeah 00:34 Menche i made a plain .tar file and it's smaller 00:34 VanessaE the second of course is tar + bzip2 00:35 hmmmm lol 00:35 hmmmm first off it's my change, second of all it's mg_flags = flag 00:36 VanessaE Menche: you're doing it wrong :-) 00:36 hmmmm and that creates it with no trees or caves either so if you want those you'd have to add those with commas too 00:36 hmmmm mg_flags = flat, caves, trees 00:36 Menche ah, forgot the -9 00:36 VanessaE hmmmm: is it possible to specify that flag in a mod? 00:36 hmmmm no 00:37 VanessaE damn. 00:37 khonkhortisan create a new world, change it to mg_flags = flat, delete map.sqlite 00:37 VanessaE I'd like to be able to turn off default trees from within moretrees, but without the mapgen aliases 00:37 VanessaE (because otherwise the tree code still runs, even if it produces nothing visible) 00:39 khonkhortisan by the way, moretrees ignores the absence of mg_flags = trees 00:39 VanessaE that's because it was written before that flag was added. 00:39 VanessaE :) 00:39 VanessaE and I don't know how to access a config file variable from Lua 00:40 hmmmm minetest.setting_get("blah") 00:40 VanessaE hmmmm: that works with those world-specific mg_* settings? 00:40 hmmmm nope 00:40 VanessaE haha 00:40 hmmmm i wonder if there is a map_meta.txt one 00:40 VanessaE reading comprehension FAIL ;) 00:40 hmmmm probably not 00:40 hmmmm that is a config file variable though 00:40 NekoGloop|Laptop You could manually parse the file 00:40 hmmmm just not the per-world ones you want 00:41 VanessaE I'll look into it more later on 00:41 khonkhortisan There's this one white-bark tree that grows in completely flat land out of contempt for the other trees 00:42 hmmmm in fact it doesn't seem like there's no lua api to get the map seed either 00:42 hmmmm it seems like* 00:42 VanessaE well if Vadtec it able to get it done, moretrees will have at least one tree that grows on deserts out of contempt for their bareness ;) 00:43 hmmmm alright, looks like there's going to have to be a way to get/set map metadata from lua..... 00:43 VanessaE uh oh 00:43 Kacey Menche, i had an awesome idea for your server but remembered... no technic 00:43 VanessaE he's getting ideas... RUN FOR IT! 00:43 VanessaE ;) 00:46 jfu anyone agrees that when hovering the mouse over a sign, the text should pop up in the center of the screen in a larger font? 00:46 ShadowNinja to anyone it may concern i have [ and ] working in formspecs by escaping them with &( and &), however I am not sure if I did this the best way so if you think I should do something differently please say so, you can see the diff here: https://github.com/ShadowNinja/minetest/compare/brackets_in_formspecs 00:46 NekoGloop|Laptop Maybe not the center of the screen but in a better font 00:46 VanessaE why not just use \ as escape? 00:46 ShadowNinja it is a lit harder than it sounds 00:47 ShadowNinja lot* 00:47 VanessaE well using & is bad 00:47 VanessaE because the who reason for [] was for that treegen mod 00:47 VanessaE which needs & as one of the lsystems symbols. 00:47 VanessaE whole* 00:47 ShadowNinja well I can easily change it to anything you like 00:47 VanessaE change ot ti \ 00:47 VanessaE :-) 00:47 VanessaE G*d my typing is atrocious. 00:47 ShadowNinja sorry can't 00:48 VanessaE why? 00:48 Menche lua would interpret that as an escape sequence? 00:48 ShadowNinja that makes it a lot more complex 00:48 * NekoGloop|Laptop puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head 00:48 MinetestBot NekoGloop|Laptop: I don't want it, talk to NekoGloop, he likes kittens 00:48 ShadowNinja well \( and \) could work, is that ok? 00:49 ShadowNinja lol, talk to yourself 00:50 NekoGloop|Laptop ikr 00:50 ShadowNinja VanessaE: would that do? 00:50 VanessaE it seems to me that the proper way to handle this is for the engine to properly escape or quote strings being passed out of a formspec 00:51 VanessaE \( is better than "push" anyway 00:51 * ShadowNinja wants to rewrite formspecs to use xml 00:51 NekoGloop|Laptop ew 00:51 NekoGloop|Laptop kill it now! 00:52 VanessaE byte your tongue! 00:52 VanessaE XML! no! 00:52 VanessaE bad boy! 00:53 NekoGloop|Laptop That's a bit of an attitude there, miss. (haha the humor) 00:54 ShadowNinja lol 00:54 ShadowNinja why not? 00:54 Kacey to bad we cannot teleport liquids yet... 00:54 VanessaE Kacey: in theory, you could. 00:54 Kacey how? 00:54 NekoGloop|Laptop That reminds me; I should test out tekkit on this thing. 00:54 VanessaE it's more a matter of the mod knowing to look for the presence of a liquid node placed on the teleporter pad 00:55 VanessaE then it's a small matter of remove_node() in one spot and add_node() at the destination. 00:55 VanessaE (then the destination loads) 00:55 VanessaE when* 00:55 Kacey not really what i was thinking... 00:56 Kacey i was thinking tanks(first off) and tesseracts that send the liquids from pipes to other tesseracts 00:56 VanessaE tesseracts? 00:56 VanessaE hypercubes? 00:57 Kacey ya 00:57 ShadowNinja 4 dimensional cubes? 00:57 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3jybMloh68 basic idea shown here 00:58 VanessaE *watches* 00:58 VanessaE where? that's a 33-minute vide 00:58 VanessaE video 00:59 Kacey at about 10 minutes but they show some before 01:00 NekoGloop|Laptop yay direwolf :D 01:01 Kacey lol 01:01 Kacey something is eating my internet... 01:02 NekoGloop|Laptop I AM. 01:02 NekoGloop|Laptop OM NOM NOM. 01:02 Kacey it must be salty 01:03 VanessaE *confused* 01:03 VanessaE that video doesn't explain it too well for me. 01:03 * VanessaE shrugs 01:03 VanessaE most MC videos spend too much time showing how to build something and not enough time showing how it *works* 01:03 VanessaE or what it *does* 01:03 NekoGloop|Laptop VanessaE, basically you pipe in water/lava/etc and you get it out the other one that's on the same "frequency" 01:04 VanessaE NekoGloop|Laptop: so like, teleporter tubes. 01:04 VanessaE pipeworks has those 01:04 ShadowNinja I think it is like teleport tubes but with pipes 01:04 VanessaE you just need to translate the received water entities back into nodes. 01:05 Kacey ^^ yes exactly 01:05 Kacey and then tanks 01:05 VanessaE tanks...well 01:05 VanessaE someone can make those work if they want to 01:05 VanessaE pretty easy really 01:05 khonkhortisan minetest will be more playable when the inventory textures don't corrupt, the settings are accessible in-game, and nodes can be rotated 90° any direction. 01:05 VanessaE all you need is any device to receive water from a pipe and send it out over a teleporter tube as a water entity 01:05 VanessaE this would be pretty trivial 01:06 VanessaE khonkhortisan: that last part, RBA almost has working 01:06 ShadowNinja and sound has been added to the menu recently 01:07 khonkhortisan still need keyboard controls there 01:07 ShadowNinja also when texture atlas is off I don't notice any coruption 01:07 khonkhortisan then you don't have enough mods 01:08 ShadowNinja I have used a 512x texture pack, breaks everything with it on but with it off there is none 01:10 ShadowNinja do you have texture atlas on? 01:10 khonkhortisan no. 01:10 khonkhortisan I don't know whether Preload item visuals is a good thing or not 01:10 VanessaE I can't even run 512HD anymore. Not enough RAM on my system. 01:10 khonkhortisan I have 2 RAM 01:10 NekoGloop|Laptop I have 4gb ram 01:11 VanessaE my server has enough mods/items defined that it exceeds my 4GB with 512HD enabled now. 01:11 ShadowNinja I keep it off, makes loading times terrible 01:11 khonkhortisan I _should_ have 4gb ram - if the other slots were filled 01:11 NekoGloop|Laptop Also I should no longer get texture glitches with preload item visuals; my graphics card was made in this century :D 01:11 khonkhortisan I think I can go as high as 16 01:12 khonkhortisan I have a geforce gt 630 and it came in a cool box 01:12 khonkhortisan my computer has the same amount of memory as my graphics card :) 01:13 VanessaE jeez, 4GB of DDR3/1600 is only $20? 01:13 VanessaE http://www.portatech.com/catalog/memory.asp?id=1636 01:13 VanessaE (interesting, that's also who I got my machine from originally) 01:14 ShadowNinja OldCoder and Jordach have their cloaks messed up 01:15 ShadowNinja they must have auto-join on 01:17 VanessaE of course that's only for 1 stick, so no dual-channel there. hm.. 8GB stick for $33.. a pair of those would suite me nicely :D 01:17 * Kacey needs to find RAM "squares" for his netbook 01:18 NekoGloop|Laptop 32 GB USB drives go for about ~$50 01:18 VanessaE looks like my machine can max out at 16GB, and I have four slots, so I'd probably want four 4GB sticks, yes? 01:19 VanessaE NekoGloop|Laptop: naw, screw that, best buy has 8GB on sale for like $7 right now. 01:19 VanessaE (who wants to pay twice the price per gig just to get it all in one drive. blah) 01:19 NekoGloop|Laptop I do believe 64 GB ones go for about $70? 01:20 ShadowNinja 4 would be great 01:24 NekoGloop|Laptop Yay for already using up 80 GB in my harddrive! 01:24 khonkhortisan Are rail carts in a stable state? 01:25 khonkhortisan minetest would save more world space if it only saved the nodes that differed from what was generated by seed. 01:27 ShadowNinja that would cause minetest to lag terribly 01:29 * NekoGloop|Laptop throws pie around 01:29 khonkhortisan it could be an option 01:30 VanessaE good G*d, you can still by PC133 DIMMs? 01:30 VanessaE ok, time to go exercise. 01:30 VanessaE bbl 01:30 ShadowNinja you would have to megenerate the block and then apply all the changes over it, noone is going to write it if it is going to make minetest vastly slower just to save some disc space 01:32 khonkhortisan What if it was only an export for sharing worlds? 01:34 khonkhortisan it looks like I can only push a minecart when I'm not in it 01:58 VanessaE well those were two sucky games. bowled 224 and 196. bleh. 02:00 VanessaE got a good workout though. 02:03 khonkhortisan How do I "kill" a cart? 02:03 VanessaE shift left click 02:04 NekoGloop|Laptop My cursor is now the buster sword from FF7 02:04 NekoGloop|Laptop My life is complete. 02:04 khonkhortisan I could've guessed that eventually, but the idea that it was impossible would've overtaken it. 02:07 jordan4ibanez All print(dump(player:get_wielded_item())) gives me is how do I print the name of the stack? 02:10 khonkhortisan :( I can't put mesecons under powered rail 02:11 hmmmm hey guys, let's talk about ore 02:11 Kacey mese 02:11 hmmmm do you like ore in the current minetest? 02:11 Kacey nyancat 02:11 hmmmm would you rather it be like it was back in the old days? 02:11 hmmmm where you had veins of ores 02:11 Kacey i do have veins 02:11 NekoGloop|Laptop VanessaE, what the hell is my password on your server? 02:11 Kacey even mithril 02:12 hmmmm i'm talking about coal and iron, not the moreores 02:12 Kacey but still 02:12 hmmmm you know how coal and iron are pretty uniformly scattered around 02:12 Kacey uniformly? 02:12 hmmmm yeah 02:13 Kacey i can dig forever and not find iron but when i do, MOTHERLOAD!!!! 02:13 Kacey but coal is WAAY to available 02:13 jordan4ibanez I'd rather have veins of it 02:14 jordan4ibanez Much more fun 02:14 hmmmm yeah 02:14 hmmmm so you like the old one better 02:14 Kacey a combination of the two 02:15 hmmmm so you'd rather something totally different? 02:15 hmmmm would you rather have it as an option? 02:15 Kacey idk 02:15 NekoGloop|Laptop Hey, i might be able to use shaders now :D 02:16 jordan4ibanez I'd rather have it as viens, I'd rather have it evenly distributed rather than there be more ore then stone below 20000 02:16 jordan4ibanez I don't think you should put it as an option so 2 different ore generators do not have to be worked on 02:17 hmmmm the ore generators i speak of don't need much work 02:17 hmmmm they're very simple 02:18 jordan4ibanez Then why even have another one? 02:18 NekoGloop|Laptop As long as you make it be exposed to mods 02:18 VanessaE NekoGloop|Laptop: dunno, want me to reset it? 02:18 hmmmm because people may want veins and other people may want it as it is right now 02:18 NekoGloop|Laptop VanessaE, please 02:19 jordan4ibanez Well move forward, if people like it how it is now then they will stay as it is in the current version. 02:19 jordan4ibanez Just my thoughtz 02:19 hmmmm how will they stay as it is if i change it? 02:21 jordan4ibanez No, they will stay with an older version as minetest moves forward, the way ores generate now is kind of disgusting and unrealistic 02:21 VanessaE I'd go for veins myself if given the choise 02:21 VanessaE choice* 02:22 meldrian GNight 02:22 hmmmm they'd have to really hate it in order to stick with an older version of minetest for that reason alone 02:22 jordan4ibanez In real life ores generate in veins, which feels amazing when you hit a vein, even a small one, in minecraft, when I mine in minetest I feel like I'm just guessing, "Oh I found a piece of iron...oh just this one piece?" 02:22 VanessaE hmmmm: what we desperately need is a "force regenerate" option that doesn't overwrite structures 02:22 VanessaE you know, re-generate the map, then re-apply the changes, that sorta thing 02:23 hmmmm why would you want to do that? 02:23 VanessaE so people can try out new mods like moreores, or your suggested changes, etc. and see them applied to an existing map 02:23 jordan4ibanez Minetest wastes so much cpu regenerating the terrain as it is, why add even more? 02:23 VanessaE it would need to be just a command, not a config option, and maybe it could just regenerate the chunks the player executing the command happens to be in 02:24 hmmmm but think about what would need to be done 02:24 VanessaE a fuckload, for sure 02:24 hmmmm you'd need to have both versions of whatever map generation you're doing 02:24 hmmmm and then you'd need to generate the block, do a diff, then store it away somewhere 02:25 jordan4ibanez Just make ores generate in veins, it's simpler, more fun, and more natural 02:31 jordan4ibanez test 02:31 VanessaE test failed. 02:32 hmmmm minetest is a failure 02:32 VanessaE ? 02:32 hmmmm test failed 02:32 VanessaE heh 02:33 NekoGloop|Laptop minetest with a trackball ftw 02:34 hmmmm don't test me, i'm testy already! 02:34 ShadowNinja VanessaE: I think I have \( and \) working properly, I also added \\, It could probably use some optimization however 02:36 ShadowNinja hmmmm: could you look at this and tell me what you think? https://github.com/ShadowNinja/minetest/compare/brackets_in_formspecs 02:37 ShadowNinja it allows [ and ] in formspecs, especially usefull with the luacontroller 02:41 Vadtec hey all, im back home 02:41 hmmmm now why can't you use brackets right now? 02:41 VanessaE wb Vadtec 02:42 hmmmm ah you're escaping things 02:42 hmmmm apparently [ and ] have meanings 02:42 hmmmm wait a minute, why are you escaping them with \(? why not \[? 02:42 jordan4ibanez This will greatly help forward the multiplayer aspect of minetest. http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=72559#p72559 02:43 VanessaE hmmmm: starting to get some lag (with already-generated areas) on the server, pretty sure I'm still on your branch 02:43 hmmmm you aren't, you switched back 02:43 VanessaE oh, ignore the /status message 02:43 hmmmm hrmm 02:44 hmmmm how do you know the lag is related to my stuff at all 02:44 VanessaE that's updated via a script, but it doesn't catch when I use a different fork than usual 02:44 ShadowNinja hmmm: \[ and \] is a lot more complicated 02:44 hmmmm why's that? 02:44 RealBadAngel hi all 02:44 MinetestBot hi RealBadAngel 02:44 VanessaE I don't. Just pointing it out since you're the mapgen expert :-) 02:44 VanessaE evening RBA 02:44 RealBadAngel hmmmm, what about merging liquids? 02:44 ShadowNinja because it uses [ and ] for the formspec 02:44 jordan4ibanez Hi RealBadAngel 02:45 ShadowNinja you are welcome to try, you will see what I mean 02:45 hmmmm i am going to do that i decided, but i need to find out how to commit without the "Merge pull request #blah " message and do it like plizadam and others do 02:46 VanessaE oh hell it just occurred to me: there are three or four of us on the server at the moment :-) 02:46 VanessaE hmmmm: I don't think you can do that without pushing directly to master 02:46 VanessaE (versus a pull request) 02:46 hmmmm i went on there to check something but i forget 02:46 ShadowNinja can you ask him? 02:49 hmmmm wat 02:49 RealBadAngel ShadowNinja, anything new with force fields? 02:49 ShadowNinja VanessaE: what is the difference between bilinear/trilinear etc filtering? 02:50 Menche a spammer got the 1000th post on the screenshots thread D: 02:50 VanessaE ShadowNinja: I'm not sure exactly how they work, I only figured out how to turn them on :-) 02:50 Menche vile advertising spammer http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=4420 02:50 ShadowNinja RealBadAngel: no, I have fixed a formspec issue however 02:50 VanessaE I think bilinear is 2d by texture and trilinear tries to stretch that into the Z direction also 02:51 hmmmm but anyway shadowninja 02:51 RealBadAngel im sitting all the time tryin to solve last problem for rotating nodeboxes 02:51 hmmmm what's wrong with using [ for the formspec if it's escaped? 02:51 ShadowNinja what about the third one(I forget the name) 02:52 ShadowNinja not sure what you mean 02:52 VanessaE Menche: strange, I see no spam ;) 02:52 RealBadAngel i cant get rotations by 90 and 270 deg to work on something smaller than full node face 02:55 hmmmm alright let me understand the nature of the problem more 02:55 hmmmm i'm looking at one of the areas where you call addBraces 02:56 ShadowNinja currently it is working, just not sure if it should be done that way 02:56 hmmmm yeah it shouldn't 02:57 hmmmm like that's the wrong approach in the first place, and then to escape a string, it would be much cleaner overall to just construct a new std::string and return it rather than messing around with replace and what not 02:57 hmmmm and faster 02:58 jordan4ibanez You can give threads artificial views by using refresh bots O.o 02:58 ShadowNinja that sounds a lot more complicated :-) 02:58 jordan4ibanez http://www.pagereboot.com/ Its not :( 02:58 hmmmm no need for find or replace 02:58 Kacey night all 02:59 hmmmm just iterate through each character, append it to the result string if it's not an escape character 02:59 hmmmm if it is an escape character, look at what it's escaping, and place that 02:59 ShadowNinja ok Will try that 03:00 hmmmm well nevermind that, because there's something wrong with the fundamental approach 03:00 hmmmm we might not have to escape strings at all if we just do it the correct way 03:00 ShadowNinja yes, but how 03:00 hmmmm that 03:01 hmmmm i am looking at right now 03:03 jordan4ibanez I can't wait for 128 bit pcs 03:03 VanessaE heh 03:04 VanessaE I'm still getting used to the concept of 64bit machines as it is. 03:04 Menche i though there wasn't a whole lot of advantage going from 32 - 64 03:04 hmmmm jordan, why not? 03:04 hmmmm i can wait 03:04 ShadowNinja you can use more that 4 gigs of ram with 64-bit 03:04 hmmmm you can use more than 4 gb of ram without 64 bit 03:05 hmmmm up to 64gb in fact 03:05 jordan4ibanez Well because my graphics card is 256 bit I want my processor to catch up 03:05 ShadowNinja don't even ask how much, it is crazy 03:05 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: they're doing 384-bit GPUs now 03:05 ShadowNinja well yes, with pae 03:05 VanessaE at least that's the plan for the PS-4. 03:05 jordan4ibanez You can have A LOT more than 64 gb ram 03:05 hmmmm your graphics card has a 256 bit lane to memory, not 256 bit addressing 03:05 hmmmm it's way different 03:05 jordan4ibanez I know, but let me bring up the truly obnoxious card 03:06 hmmmm ? no, 64 gb is the max. 32 bits is 4gb, 36 is 4gb * 2^(36-32) = 64gb 03:06 hmmmm PAE has a 4 bit page selector 03:06 jordan4ibanez http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7462665&CatId=320 03:07 VanessaE actually I always thought X bits always referred to x-bit registers and x-bit data bus to memory 03:07 hmmmm to be honest it's meaningless marketing goop unless they actually specify what is X-bit 03:08 jordan4ibanez https://www.system76.com/servers/model/jacp8 you can have 512GB of ram with this one 03:09 sdzen who would ever want that much..... 03:09 jordan4ibanez No wait I lied 03:09 RealBadAngel DAMN! i did it :) 03:09 jordan4ibanez It has 2 processors, so you can have 512GB combined ram xD 03:09 hmmmm that's x64, which has 2^48 maximum addressing, PAE has 2^36 max 03:09 VanessaE RealBadAngel: did what> 03:09 RealBadAngel i got nodeboxes properly rotated :) 03:09 VanessaE sweet 03:09 jordan4ibanez Cool 03:10 RealBadAngel without ^transform at all 03:10 VanessaE RealBadAngel: is it ready to merge? 03:10 RealBadAngel not yet, i will clean the mess when i got back from work 03:10 jordan4ibanez Computers are getting so powerful soon we will not be able to power a single desktop with the energy from our homes 03:10 VanessaE ok 03:10 hmmmm I've seen machines with 512GB of ram 03:10 RealBadAngel then will pull it 03:10 sdzen still having that much ram isn't worth a shit if your computers outdated 03:11 jordan4ibanez Wait, I have an EXTREMELY rediculous video I want to show you guys 03:11 hmmmm they were Fujitsu-made M5000s (or M9000s? i forget) 03:11 hmmmm really, really big database servers 03:11 Exio does anyone has 10000USD? 03:11 hmmmm and it was like 256 cores 03:11 VanessaE Exio: I wish. 03:11 Exio i need that for a 64x (opteron x16 * 4) + 512 gb! :P 03:11 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/VML2cXDe32M 03:11 VanessaE I could use a good 10 grand right now :-) 03:11 hmmmm real UltraSPARC-VII cores, none of those CoolThreads shit 03:12 sdzen and by the time applications will require that much ram 03:12 sdzen your computer will look like a rock 03:12 jordan4ibanez Nvidia came out with tesla's which instead of having a gpu 03:12 hmmmm s/those/that/ 03:12 jordan4ibanez they have cpus, and A LOT of processing power per cpu 03:12 Exio the computer what we "have" at our moment are getting their limit soon, we need quantum computers 03:12 hmmmm you mean GPGPU 03:12 jordan4ibanez Look at these numbers, it's INSANE http://www.nvidia.com/object/personal-supercomputing.html 03:13 hmmmm a Tesla is the same as a Quadra without the video output and texture renderer 03:13 VanessaE 3.5 TFLOPs? impressive. 03:13 jordan4ibanez Yes, it's insane 03:14 jordan4ibanez You could render an entire pixar movie on 2 of them in a pc 03:14 jordan4ibanez with 2 of them* 03:14 hmmmm well i can render a pixar movie on a pentium 3 03:14 hmmmm ...how much time it'd take is another story 03:15 RealBadAngel btw, bug that forced users to sort coordinates of nodeboxes is gone 03:16 Vadtec ShadowNinja: you there? 03:17 ShadowNinja yes 03:17 Vadtec hey, that fix you gave me for worldedit is working great 03:17 Vadtec cept i just got an error when i did //replace 03:17 * NekoGloop|Laptop puts kittens on all the heads 03:17 Vadtec 21:14:20: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...test_game/mods/worldedit/worldedit/manipulations.lua:63: attempt to compare number with string 03:17 * VanessaE puts her kitten in OldCoder's pile 03:18 ShadowNinja I didn't touch that part 03:18 Vadtec how can i force lua to convert it to a number when it parses the parameter string? 03:18 ShadowNinja let me look 03:18 jordan4ibanez When they come out with motherboards with 16 pcie slots, or 32 pcie slots, just imagine the power that that many testla gpgpus could have 03:18 Vadtec ive been googling, but not knowing lua leaves my google fu at a disadvantage 03:19 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: lately it's a struggle to find a motherboard with more than roughly 4, and one of those always seems to be a useless PCIe 1x slot 03:19 jordan4ibanez Really? I've found a bunch of 8 slotted ones 03:20 jordan4ibanez Let's say we overclocked the tesla to output 4.5 TF, 32 of them would be able to process 144TF of data, insanity 03:21 ShadowNinja does your line 63 look like this? while pos.z <= pos2.z do 03:21 Vadtec yes 03:22 Vadtec i think when parsing the string we need to add 0.5 to it to let lua convert it to a number automatically 03:22 Vadtec back in the code for pos1/2 03:22 MinetestBot Welcome back Vadtec! 03:22 jordan4ibanez lmfao 03:23 Menche O.o 03:23 MinetestBot Menche: What are you wondering about? 03:23 Vadtec the bots AI needs some tweaking 03:24 VanessaE you DO know with a TFLOP is I hope :) 03:24 jordan4ibanez Menche, I'm installing a different os and moving everything to it, so we might have to reconnect your server back to mine and change the routing IP 03:25 Menche does hamachi provide a hostname like remobo does? 03:25 jordan4ibanez Or whatever it's called 03:25 Menche hostname, domain, or whatever 03:26 ShadowNinja try adding return after minetest.chat_send_player around line 68 and 91 03:26 jordan4ibanez No, all you have to do is reconnect and change the ip of your route thing 03:26 jordan4ibanez with remobo this would have been a nightmare 03:26 Menche with remobo you could do "server.user.remobo.com" 03:26 Menche it updated with the IP 03:26 VanessaE remobo/hamachi? evil. 03:26 VanessaE evil. 03:26 Vadtec ShadowNinja: return what though? and why would that make a diff, the issue is the data is being stored as a string, not a number, which is what the later code is expecting 03:26 Vadtec ShadowNinja: im trying something else, gimme a sec 03:27 Menche i can't run remobo on my server because the free version requires a gui 03:27 Menche i don't always have x11 runing 03:27 ShadowNinja return nothing, it isn't required, it just terminates it 03:27 jordan4ibanez I should just have every way possible to connect to the server, ip adress, remobo, and hamachi lol 03:27 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/fXMDBXe.jpg 03:27 ShadowNinja I should have added that before 03:27 jordan4ibanez rba: coolio 03:28 VanessaE RealBadAngel: sweet 03:28 Vadtec ShadowNinja: so just "return" ? 03:28 ShadowNinja yes 03:28 RealBadAngel i think with this patch we gonna have some speed and memory back 03:28 VanessaE RealBadAngel: except, something looks wrong about the textures on the handles...I don't recall drawing them to be brighter at the ends 03:28 ShadowNinja it defaults to nil 03:29 Vadtec ShadowNinja: ok, lemme try that, my idea didnt work 03:29 RealBadAngel theres no other texture in the folder 03:29 VanessaE ok, I guess I just forgot then. 03:30 ShadowNinja replace works for me 03:30 RealBadAngel its common texture for top of the lever 03:30 RealBadAngel both for on and off 03:30 VanessaE RealBadAngel: ok, no worries. 03:31 Vadtec ShadowNinja: well, when i use //replace, i get an error about the function getting a string when it wants a number 03:31 OldCoder Hi 03:31 MinetestBot hi OldCoder 03:32 VanessaE wb OldCoder 03:32 OldCoder I will do something about the pile 03:32 OldCoder when possible 03:32 VanessaE OldCoder: yeah, your kitten pile is overflowing a bit :) 03:32 ShadowNinja are you using latest from git for server and we 03:32 Vadtec ShadowNinja: pretty sure 03:33 OldCoder We will figure out something 03:33 Vadtec ShadowNinja: adding the returns didnt work 03:33 ShadowNinja error makes no sense, they should both be numbers 03:34 Vadtec ShadowNinja: thats how im reading the code too 03:34 ShadowNinja let me try something... 03:35 Vadtec all im doing, for example, is //pos1 -203,30,452 03:35 Vadtec and //pos2 -205,30,452 03:36 Vadtec then //replace air stone 03:36 ShadowNinja I just got it 03:36 Vadtec the error? 03:36 ShadowNinja I used my function to set it 03:37 ShadowNinja that must be the issue 03:37 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/UHMfd6S.jpg 03:37 Vadtec ShadowNinja: in what way? is it somehow converting the coords to a string? 03:38 ShadowNinja I don't know, let me see 03:39 ShadowNinja ah yes, forgot tonumber() 03:40 Vadtec heh, see, *thats* what ive been googling for lol 03:41 ShadowNinja pos = {x=tonumber(x),y=tonumber(y),z=tonumber(z)} at lines 66 and 90 03:41 Vadtec ShadowNinja: kk, gimme a few to mod the code and test 03:42 ShadowNinja tested and it works 03:44 Vadtec ShadowNinja: tested and verified :D 03:44 hmmmm alright, shadowninja, sorry about that, it seems like you were right; there is no good way to do this without breaking compatibility 03:45 * ShadowNinja is annoyed at compatibility, likes drupals philosophy 03:46 ShadowNinja so should I do the copying to a second string thing? 03:49 hmmmm so wait, why do you want brackets in a formspec field anyway? 03:49 VanessaE hmmmm: L-Systems tree definitions use [ ] for push and pop 03:49 hmmmm grrr 03:49 VanessaE and there's a mod that lets you create these defs in realtime via a formspec 03:50 hmmmm so what do we do, break compatibility to come up with a clean solution? 03:51 ShadowNinja I was writing this with the luacontroller in mind 03:51 VanessaE well since [ ] can't be used in text in a formspec anyway, seems to me nothing would break 03:51 VanessaE ShadowNinja: ah, well that's another thing then. 03:51 VanessaE I forgot about the Luacontroller 03:51 hmmmm no, i'd change the way formspecs are defined so that [ and ] aren't delimiters 03:52 hmmmm or what would be nice is if the string literal were enclosed in quotation marks 03:52 ShadowNinja then you would have to escape the delimiters 03:52 ShadowNinja what do you suggest it is? 03:53 hmmmm no, i'm saying like "text[here]"[blah] 03:53 hmmmm or however that goes 03:53 hmmmm by the way, i'm completely ignorant of any matters relating to formspec 03:55 jordan4ibanez Adventure time! 03:57 jordan4ibanez I learnt the most depressing thing about that show today 03:58 jordan4ibanez And am I the only one having this issue? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4907 04:00 VanessaE well if you compile it as server-only, why would the server write to its config file anyway? 04:01 jordan4ibanez To change settings, say static spawnpoint 04:01 VanessaE afaik the server never writes to the config file? 04:02 jordan4ibanez Why? That is kind of BS 04:02 VanessaE well I don't recall seeing mine ever get changed by anything I didn't expressly do from outside the server... 04:02 VanessaE and it would be a security hole if the server could write to it 04:02 jordan4ibanez How would it be a security hole? That doesn't make any sense. 04:03 VanessaE because if some joe random user discovers a way to force the server to write the wrong things to the config, well say bye bye to the server's world files or something 04:03 jordan4ibanez No, there's no way of deleting a world file from a configuration file, that's nonsense. 04:04 jordan4ibanez This makes headless servers or terminal servers that use server plugins like mine or traxie's useless or atleast very flawed. 04:04 VanessaE sorry, i tend to think way too far ahead in these cases 04:04 jordan4ibanez It's okay 04:04 VanessaE I never have trouble updating the config file on mine. a quick nano minetest-server.conf; killall minetestserver and all is well. 04:05 VanessaE (ideally the latter command only gets added if the server's idle) 04:05 jordan4ibanez I just don't understand why a configuration file would not be able to be accessed from the minetestserver if you're able to compile minetest as server only 04:05 jordan4ibanez It's like putting tires on a car only to forget the engine 04:06 VanessaE bad analogy :) 04:06 jordan4ibanez Then reverse it 04:06 ShadowNinja hmmmm: I rewrote it how you wanted(I think) and it works 04:06 VanessaE I think it would be more akin to putting a new engine in a car but not being able to paint it to match your car's general theme :-) 04:07 jordan4ibanez Why is minetest's client/server able to access the .conf and not server alone, that doesn't make sense 04:07 ShadowNinja pushed 04:07 VanessaE because it's really just the client that writs to it in that case, not the server 04:07 VanessaE writes* 04:08 jordan4ibanez So I'm going to have to run the client in server mode? 04:08 VanessaE er.. 04:09 VanessaE you shouldn't need to change your config at all after you've had your server running for a few days 04:09 khonkhortisan mesecons aren't conductive when used in powered rail 04:10 hmmmm ahh much nicer 04:10 hmmmm see how clean it is 04:10 ShadowNinja yes 04:12 VanessaE sigh... 04:13 * VanessaE is bored, uninspired, worn out... wtf? 04:13 khonkhortisan Is this about that cloud texture? 04:14 ShadowNinja if you need something to do I have something 04:15 ShadowNinja namely get the wood texture to tile properly 04:16 VanessaE why bother, no one will accept it 04:21 jordan4ibanez I'm doing something so dangerous ubuntu made me type in "Yes, do as I say! 04:21 NekoGloop|lol I could still use a cloud texture 04:22 NekoGloop|lol Me, ping timeout pls. 04:22 ShadowNinja is there any sort of user pruning on the forum? 04:28 VanessaE NekoGloop|lol: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/cloud.png 04:29 NekoGloop|lol Little good that does me on my laptop where I've yet to migrate files but thank you. 04:33 * NekoGloop|lol plays with a trackball waiting for FF7 to download again... 04:33 VanessaE ShadowNinja: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/default_wood.png 04:34 ShadowNinja thank you, can you pull-request it? 04:34 VanessaE if anyone wants to push that to minetest_game, be my guest. WTFPL. 04:34 VanessaE ShadowNinja: no, because Pilzadam already shot down my idea, pull requests against minetest_game are evidently the wrong way to put new textures into minetest_game :-/ 04:34 VanessaE but it's installed on my server anyway 04:35 ShadowNinja right, oh well 04:35 NekoGloop|lol VanessaE: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/cd604fa9c864160a6276b7fcf483a157ae339611 04:35 NekoGloop|lol Because fck Pilz. 04:41 VanessaE NekoGloop|lol, ShadowNinja: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/126 04:41 VanessaE let's see how long it takes for someone else to say they suck. 04:41 NekoGloop|lol Personally I do think the fence is bad 04:42 NekoGloop|lol But the other two should be kept 04:42 VanessaE mine or the default? 04:42 NekoGloop|lol both. 04:42 NekoGloop|lol :P 04:42 VanessaE :( 04:42 NekoGloop|lol The default's shape with your colors should look better 04:42 Menche i like the default wood better, but the steel block is a *huge* improvement over default 04:42 Menche and your fence is better too 04:43 * ShadowNinja is thinking the opposite, sigh 04:44 Menche i really don't like the default steel block texture 04:44 ShadowNinja fence and wood are great, steel block doesn't look quite right 04:45 Menche i prefer the default wood 04:46 VanessaE well all three are in place on my server if you wanna see them in practice. 04:52 ShadowNinja VanessaE: are you not advertising to serverlist due to running new_emerge? 04:55 VanessaE probably not 04:55 VanessaE as soon as hmmmm pushes it to master I'll update. 04:57 Menche is "* * * * * command" the right crontab syntax for every minute? 04:57 VanessaE no 04:57 VanessaE I believe the fourth * needs to be */1 04:58 VanessaE double-check the man page, it's been months since I had to mess with cron (and years since I really knew much about it) 04:59 jordan4ibanez No 04:59 jordan4ibanez the first * needs to be */1 04:59 VanessaE well at least I got the key right, if not the field. 04:59 jordan4ibanez True 04:59 VanessaE forgot it was little-endian 04:59 jordan4ibanez Updating ubuntu 10.04 server to 12.04 just to use a gui 05:00 Menche ...i configure my server completely through CLI over ssh 05:00 Menche my other server has never had a gui on it :D 05:00 jordan4ibanez No, I need to dropbox the server 05:01 jordan4ibanez Luckily this is almost done 05:02 jordan4ibanez And done 05:03 jordan4ibanez Ubuntu 12.04.2?! 05:03 jordan4ibanez They updated it AGAIN? 05:04 jordan4ibanez Well at least the terminal scrolls much faster then 10.04 05:04 Menche is your minetestserver up? 05:04 jordan4ibanez No, I'm installing the GUI 05:05 Menche ok good, my status script was reporting it as down 05:05 jordan4ibanez Good, now it's working! 05:06 Menche the script is working, not so sure about the crontab 05:07 ShadowNinja menche: you have a restart script in crontab, correct? 05:07 Menche yes 05:07 Menche and that seems to work properly 05:07 ShadowNinja does it check if the server is running first? 05:07 Menche yes 05:07 ShadowNinja how? 05:08 Menche it uses the minetestbot code 05:08 Menche i have "*/1 * * * * command" 05:14 jordan4ibanez How does the minetestbot find out if you're running a server? 05:15 ShadowNinja it sends an init packet 05:15 jordan4ibanez Oh fancy, my cat's trying to figure out how doors work 05:17 Menche can't get that cronjob to work :( 05:18 Menche using a shell script with an infinite loop and a sleep command instead 05:18 Menche now it should update every 10 seconds 05:19 Menche yep, it works now 05:19 Menche updates every 10 seconds 05:20 ShadowNinja Menche: how do you start minetestserver? 05:20 Menche i run it in a tmux session 05:21 jordan4ibanez That sounds pretty painful 05:21 Menche painful how? 05:21 ShadowNinja I don't know what that means 05:21 Menche i start tmux, it opens another shell 05:21 Menche i start minetest server there, then detach and log out 05:22 Menche tmux allows you to run a command, detach the session, and logout 05:22 jordan4ibanez Oh nice 05:22 Menche then log back in and re-attach the session 05:22 ShadowNinja I mean from your script 05:22 ShadowNinja sounds like screen 05:22 Menche minetestserver --map-dir ~/.minetest/worlds/server_world_2 --port 30000 05:23 ShadowNinja from python 05:24 Menche you mean my check script? 05:24 ShadowNinja yes 05:24 ShadowNinja the bot uses python 05:25 Menche http://pastebin.com/3FFiepgt 05:25 Menche just edit the "address" and "port" variables at the top 05:25 Menche all the connection code is from minetestbot 05:26 Menche i just deleted all the irc bot related code and replaced it with print() 05:26 ShadowNinja I have that but it doesn't restart it if it is down? 05:27 jordan4ibanez I guess we don't have to do a new thing now menche, everything's all taken care of 05:28 khonkhortisan conductors don't have an action_on/off? 05:29 khonkhortisan So either a powered rail can conduct along itself, or it can set its meta for cart acceleration, but not both? 05:29 Menche http://pastebin.com/XBmi1MrN 05:29 Menche my backup script 05:30 Menche if the server's down that will restart it 05:34 * NekoGloop|lol puts a kitten on jordan4ibanez's head 05:34 khonkhortisan jordan4ibanez doesn't want it, give it to MinetestBot, he likes kittens. 05:34 jordan4ibanez I have enough cats lol 05:35 * Menche drops a goldfish bowl on NekoGloop|lol's head 05:39 * VanessaE watches some old The Muppet Show. 05:42 NekoGloop|lol NekoGloop|Laptop should ping timeout ANY TIME NOW 05:47 * MiJyn is waiting 05:47 MiJyn eagerly 05:47 MiJyn intently 05:48 MiJyn *intentely 05:48 MiJyn or whatever 05:48 MiJyn something 05:49 ShadowNinja want some fun? type cat /dev/urandom 05:50 MiJyn haha 05:50 * MiJyn times out 05:50 MiJyn :P 05:54 ShadowNinja is this correct for every hour? 0 */1 * * * 05:57 jordan4ibanez can someone come onto my server and test the spawnpoint to see how it looks? 05:57 jordan4ibanez menche.servegame.net 30005 05:59 ShadowNinja now I just set a low log level and run watch cat serverlog 06:03 Akerok Hello everyone. 06:03 MinetestBot hi Akerok 06:05 jordan4ibanez what did you tell me to use shadowninja? 06:06 ShadowNinja //fixlight (or let me) 06:07 jordan4ibanez invalid command 06:07 ShadowNinja are you running latest? 06:08 NekoGloop|lol Night all. 06:23 khonkhortisan /fixlight is a worldedit command 06:25 jordan4ibanez updated worldedit 06:25 jordan4ibanez fixed lights 06:25 jordan4ibanez nothing fucking changed lol 06:27 jordan4ibanez Why does morestairs not have dirt stairs? 06:40 Oblivion1500 hello everyone! 06:40 MinetestBot hi Oblivion1500 06:40 Oblivion1500 ... i dont talk to robots. 06:43 Akerok lol 06:44 Oblivion1500 anyone want to see my brand new website, it doesnt have anything on it but its cool.. its a wordpress block for techno geeks :).. again there is nothing on it seeing as i just started it 06:45 Oblivion1500 but i will most likely write a review on the minetest project :) 06:45 Oblivion1500 blog* 06:49 Oblivion1500 well i will just put it here anyway, not really advertising seeing as theres nothing to advertise 1337reviews.com 07:00 jordan4ibanez Goodnight all 08:02 Akerok what can I put in the upgrade slots in the mv electric furnace? 08:35 Akerok Can anyone help me with the technic mod? I'm trying to understand the mv furnace. I can't figure out what I can put in the upgrade slots. 09:06 Calinou weird, I don't see sound control in options menu, using latest git and recompiled it 09:06 Calinou does this need irrlicht 1.8? :p 09:23 Calinou ah, forgot it's in game :P 11:03 rubenwardy hi all 11:03 MinetestBot hi rubenwardy 11:11 rubenwardy !sfu *potato* 11:11 MinetestBot pornopotatoe New member 0 posts, registered on 2012-06-05 | id: 1979 11:11 MinetestBot superpotatoes1989 New member 2 posts, registered on 2012-08-10 | id: 2684 11:11 Infinity_69 hi 11:11 MinetestBot hi Infinity_69 11:11 rubenwardy !sfu *infinity* 11:12 MinetestBot InfinityProject Member 1,015 posts, registered on 2012-03-17 | id: 1494 11:12 Infinity_69 hi ruben 11:12 rubenwardy hi 11:12 MinetestBot hi rubenwardy 11:12 rubenwardy no, minetestbot, no 11:12 Infinity_69 hey, go to http://hvgaming.bugs3.com and look after the footer, do you see die(); 11:12 rubenwardy huff 11:13 rubenwardy you need to put it in 11:13 Infinity_69 oh 11:13 Infinity_69 :D 11:17 Infinity_69 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhvgaming.bugs3.com%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.3 11:18 Infinity_69 rubenwardy 11:18 Infinity_69 i did it ;) 11:18 Infinity_69 i mean, :) 11:18 rubenwardy well done, your page with almost no content on it passed the validator! 11:18 rubenwardy :P 11:19 rubenwardy feel jealous? http://multa.bugs3.com/ 11:19 rubenwardy http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3a%2f%2fmulta.bugs3.com%2f 11:21 Infinity_69 please give me a link for the html image 11:21 Infinity_69 the W3 image 11:22 Infinity_69 STOP 11:22 Infinity_69 ;D 11:22 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/images/valid-html5.png 11:23 Infinity_69 hey, do you use a MAC? 11:25 Infinity_69 Andrew Ward, Rubenwardy, are you using a mac? 11:25 Infinity_69 or ubuntu 11:28 rubenwardy Windoes 11:28 rubenwardy Windows, atm 11:28 rubenwardy but I have Ubuntu as well 11:29 rubenwardy (you can tell if you use the "whois" feature) 11:29 rubenwardy I prefer not to use Apple's products 11:29 rubenwardy I do not like how uncompetitive they are 11:30 rubenwardy (they block Google Maps from iTunes, and they lock down their computer's file explorer) 11:30 Infinity_69 yeah, well it's just because im not at home atm, at a friends house 11:30 Infinity_69 and i dont know how to change the layout of the keyboard, neither does he... 11:31 Infinity_69 i miss my DELL with Ubuntu 12.10 11:31 Infinity_69 Get ready for Ubuntu 13.04 11:31 Infinity_69 soon it shall be out :) 11:31 rubenwardy If only minetest was like this is capability: http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48105 11:32 rubenwardy I know how to use them 11:32 rubenwardy I use macs at film club 11:32 Infinity_69 wait, you make movies? 11:32 Infinity_69 cool 11:33 Infinity_69 what a ripoff! 11:33 Infinity_69 that TOTALLY copies MineTest 11:33 Infinity_69 :D 11:36 Infinity_69 rubenwardy, do you want to join the HVG team? 11:36 Infinity_69 you are much better in this then me, and i want to be a programmer in the future :/ 11:37 rubenwardy no 11:37 rubenwardy what a ripoff!] 11:37 rubenwardy lol 11:37 rubenwardy Minetest is 90% minecraft in content 11:37 Infinity_69 :D 11:37 Infinity_69 still 11:37 rubenwardy that is more like 40% 11:37 Infinity_69 but... 11:38 Infinity_69 what if it doesnt lag like mt does... :D 11:38 Infinity_69 would you consider game jumping? 11:38 rubenwardy Minetest is more of a "rip off" than Build a World 11:38 rubenwardy no, build a world is propiatory (commercial) 11:39 Infinity_69 why doesnt somebody make a minetest ripoff that could survive under 150-200 players in a server :/ 11:39 Infinity_69 like minecraft does 11:40 rubenwardy There is no reason why minetest can not support 150-200 players 11:40 Infinity_69 yes, i've played minecraft, dont judge me! 11:40 rubenwardy huh? 11:42 Infinity_69 you know, that if there is 5-10 people in a server it starts to lag a lot... 11:43 Infinity_69 well, someone should make another game, named minetest, but make it lag much less... 11:43 Infinity_69 same textures, sounds etc... 11:43 rubenwardy lol, you have no idea 11:43 rubenwardy say that in #minetest-dev ... 11:44 Infinity_69 :D 11:44 rubenwardy Ok, how about you do it? write the game again 100% from scratch 11:44 Infinity_69 hey, i saw your info on Multa, you know C++, why dont you make a new engine in C++, then make a game in it... 11:44 Infinity_69 NO 11:44 Infinity_69 :D 11:44 Infinity_69 i have an idea... 11:45 rubenwardy I am not as good as celeron55 at c++ 11:45 Infinity_69 engine=you, game=me 11:45 Infinity_69 still... 11:45 rubenwardy and I am already working on an engine 11:45 Infinity_69 i have a theory... 11:45 Infinity_69 maybe minetest lags so much because its so lightweight... 11:46 rubenwardy Which is faster, a car or a lorry? 11:46 Infinity_69 lorry? 11:46 rubenwardy nope, a car 11:46 Infinity_69 i mean whats a lorry? 11:46 rubenwardy because it is lighter 11:46 rubenwardy a truck 11:46 Infinity_69 oh 11:47 Infinity_69 but... 11:47 rubenwardy another metaphor: If I was to race a fat person, who would win? 11:47 Infinity_69 it depends... 11:47 rubenwardy lighter is better, because there is less "weight" to carry around 11:47 Infinity_69 are you a handicap or fat? 11:48 rubenwardy nope, I weigh 8 stone 11:48 Infinity_69 ugh,,,KG? 11:48 rubenwardy https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=8+stone+in+kg&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a 11:48 rubenwardy 50.8 11:48 Infinity_69 well, i'm 154 cm high and 43 KG... 11:48 rubenwardy the average for my age is 12: 70kg 11:48 Infinity_69 im underweight 11:49 rubenwardy anyways... 11:49 Infinity_69 oh, another thing... 11:49 Infinity_69 if you are a "couch potato" and he isn't, then there is a chance, he could win... 11:49 Infinity_69 or she... 11:49 Infinity_69 :D 11:50 rubenwardy nope. Just take the metaphor and leave 11:50 rubenwardy it is not meant to be literal (like the Bible) 11:51 Infinity_69 hi John 11:51 Infinity_69 hey, where's Zeg9 11:51 Infinity_69 haven't seen him for a long time -.- 11:52 Infinity_69 i have a theory... 11:52 Infinity_69 maybe...he was SO upset because the apocalypse was canceled, that he killed himself... 11:52 Infinity_69 :D 11:52 Infinity_69 just saying... 11:53 rubenwardy stupid theory 11:53 Infinity_69 i know... 11:53 Infinity_69 :D 11:54 Infinity_69 am i the "Stupid Theory Guy" now? 11:54 rubenwardy brb 11:55 Infinity_69 i thought you'd way that... 11:55 Infinity_69 so, i have a followup theory... 11:55 Infinity_69 maybe, he created a script/bot that would "die" in some time... 11:55 Infinity_69 well bye anyways... 12:03 rubenwardy hmm, extensions 12:03 rubenwardy sdfgsdf 12:04 rubentest how does minetest extensions work? 12:04 rubentest what is 3m_rele? 12:05 * rubenwardy is just checking my highlighter system 12:06 rubentest what does the award mod do? 12:06 rubentest awards 12:06 rubentest awards 12:09 * rubenwardy has way too many passwords 12:09 rubenwardy bingo! found the right one 12:10 Vadtec mornin all 12:11 rubenwardy hi 12:19 rubenwardy qwerty 12:33 rubenwardy sfan5! 12:33 rubenwardy hi# 12:34 sfan5 hi 12:44 Vadtec each game defined in minetest will look in games/ for minetest.conf, correct? 12:46 sfan5 !ar enable 12:46 MinetestBot AR enabled. 13:14 proller sfan5, can you fix it ? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=72589#p72589 13:15 sfan5 proller: i can fix it, but not now 13:17 proller thank you! very good mod 8-) 13:17 proller DESTROOOOOY! 8) 13:49 rubenwardy !sfu *suck* 13:49 MinetestBot rubenwardy: No Results found 13:49 rubenwardy !sfu *bob* 13:49 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Too many matches: 12 13:50 rubenwardy !sfu *pizza* 13:50 MinetestBot rubenwardy: No Results found 13:50 rubenwardy !sfu *minetest* 13:50 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Too many matches: 16 13:54 sfan5 MinetestBot: where are you from? 13:54 MinetestBot I come from https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules 13:54 sfan5 MinetestBot: where are you from? 13:54 MinetestBot I come from https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules 13:55 sfan5 MinetestBot: where are you from? 13:55 MinetestBot I come from https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules 13:55 sfan5 MinetestBot: where are you from? 13:55 MinetestBot I come from https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules 13:55 sfan5 MinetestBot: where are you from? 13:55 MinetestBot I come from https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules 13:55 sfan5 come on random.randint(0,5) == 0 13:55 sfan5 MinetestBot: where are you from? 13:55 MinetestBot ... 13:55 sfan5 ? 13:55 sfan5 MinetestBot: where are you from? 13:55 MinetestBot ... 13:55 sfan5 MinetestBot: where are you from? 13:55 MinetestBot ... 13:55 sfan5 something broke 13:55 sfan5 !up 127.0.0.1 13:55 MinetestBot 127.0.0.1:30000 seems to be down 13:56 sfan5 MinetestBot: where are you from? 13:56 MinetestBot I come from https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules 13:56 rubenwardy lol 14:01 Infinity_69 hi 14:01 MinetestBot hi Infinity_69 14:02 Infinity_69 So, we meet again, mr. Rubenwardy 14:02 rubenwardy yeah... 14:02 rubenwardy /ignore Infinity_69 all 14:02 rubenwardy jokes 14:02 Infinity_69 what? 14:02 Infinity_69 why 14:02 rubenwardy the best thing about that command, is that I dont know how to undo it 14:03 rubenwardy * 14:03 Infinity_69 o.o 14:03 MinetestBot Infinity_69: What are you wondering about? 14:03 Vadtec rubenwardy: ... /unignore in most cases :P 14:03 Infinity_69 oh, nothing, MinetestBot 14:03 rubenwardy no, that does not work. I have to open up a menu to do it 14:03 rubenwardy Window > Ignore List 14:05 Infinity_69 rubenwardy, can you help me? 14:05 Infinity_69 please? 14:06 * rubenwardy is coding C++ 14:06 * Infinity_69 caught Rubenwardy fake ignoring 14:11 rubenwardy quick preview of what I am doing: http://multa.bugs3.com/blog/index.php?post/2013/02/25/The-start-of-an-inventory-system 14:11 Infinity_69 me! 14:11 Infinity_69 it's me! 14:12 Infinity_69 ok, it isn't really me... 14:12 rubenwardy john_minetest: 42-universe-everything 14:12 rubenwardy - is minus 14:12 rubenwardy not or 14:12 thexyz rubenwardy: blank page? 14:12 rubenwardy erm 14:13 rubenwardy server down 14:13 Infinity_69 the REAL meaning of life is to understand, that you once had freedome, until a cop pulled you over and found illegal fireworks, drugs and a dead cop in the trunk of your car 14:13 rubenwardy john_minetest: nope 14:13 rubenwardy john_minetest: 42-universe-everything 14:13 rubenwardy the meaning of life, the universe and everything = 42 14:14 rubenwardy :P 14:14 Infinity_69 what? 14:14 Infinity_69 btw, is it just me, or does 69 look familiar to the "Infinity" mark? 14:14 Infinity_69 :D 14:14 RealBadAngel hi all 14:14 MinetestBot hi RealBadAngel 14:14 Infinity_69 thats how i got my name 14:14 Infinity_69 hi RBA 14:14 Infinity_69 long time no see, huh :D 14:15 RealBadAngel rubenwardy, the state of the art link opens empty page... 14:15 rubenwardy Google Image search: "69" and you will see what it really means 14:15 RealBadAngel you mean by this it is snow themed, at winter and for eskimoos? ;) 14:16 Infinity_69 i know what it meens :D 14:16 rubenwardy RealBadAngel: my server is down 14:16 Infinity_69 but im not allowed to talk about it here... xD 14:16 Infinity_69 or am i o.o 14:16 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/ 14:16 RealBadAngel ah. so what do you mean by it? 14:16 Infinity_69 oh :D 14:17 rubenwardy It was a blog posting about a new game I am making 14:17 RealBadAngel btw, finished that today early morning: http://i.imgur.com/fXMDBXe.jpg 14:17 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/UHMfd6S.jpg 14:17 rubenwardy that is cool 14:18 RealBadAngel need to clean the code, test it for a while 14:18 RealBadAngel but it looks its done 14:19 RealBadAngel but i figured already next feature coming 14:19 RealBadAngel multibox (work name) nodebox with own textures for each nodebox in it 14:19 rubenwardy I uploaded just the screenshot: http://multa.webs.com/scrn_1.png 14:19 Infinity_69 http://hvgaming.bugs3.com 14:20 rubenwardy (to a secondary server) 14:20 rubenwardy not much to see 14:20 Infinity_69 hey rubenwardy, is this the engine your making? 14:20 Infinity_69 CAUGHT! 14:20 Infinity_69 BUSTED 14:20 rubenwardy yeah 14:20 Infinity_69 rubenwardy, you are a fake ignorer :D 14:20 rubenwardy Infinity_69!*@* added to ignore list. 14:21 Infinity_69 nope :D 14:21 RealBadAngel nodebox code i modified is already prepared for many textures 14:21 Infinity_69 hey, ruben, do i get the "Beta code"? 14:21 Infinity_69 :D 14:22 * Infinity_69 hopes the engine that rubenwardy is making is free and open source 14:22 Infinity_69 hey RBA, how do i make my channel let in people that are "not invited" 14:23 Infinity_69 :D 14:23 Infinity_69 BUSTED 14:23 Infinity_69 ... again! 14:23 rubenwardy yeah, I am using the scene from the demo 14:23 rubenwardy as a temporary scene 14:23 Infinity_69 rubenwardy, will there be zombies? 14:24 Infinity_69 1000 FPS! 14:24 Infinity_69 :D 14:24 Infinity_69 john_minetest: 1000 FPS! 14:24 rubenwardy It will be a survival engine 14:24 rubenwardy sand box 14:24 Infinity_69 yay 14:24 Infinity_69 ZOMBIEZ 14:24 Infinity_69 :D 14:24 rubenwardy similar client/server system to what Minetest has 14:25 Infinity_69 can i make the menu background and sh*t? 14:25 * rubenwardy wonders what Infinity_69 is saying behind his back 14:25 * Infinity_69 hopes rubenwardy would hear him 14:25 rubenwardy no 14:25 rubenwardy DayZ styl 14:25 rubenwardy e 14:25 Infinity_69 sandbox = do what you want, when you want, where you want 14:25 Infinity_69 like real life 14:25 Infinity_69 :D 14:25 rubenwardy although, I started creating it before I heard about DayZ 14:26 Infinity_69 great job, rube! 14:26 rubenwardy Infinity_69!*@* has been removed from the ignore list. 14:26 Infinity_69 yay 14:26 Infinity_69 :D 14:26 Infinity_69 tyhanks 14:26 * rubenwardy will check the logs 14:26 Infinity_69 hey, ruben, is this correct... 14:26 Infinity_69 sandbox = do what you want, when you want, where you want 14:27 rubenwardy yeah 14:27 Infinity_69 john_minetest, MWHAHAHAHAA!!! 14:27 rubenwardy My project will probably be opensource 14:27 Infinity_69 YAY! 14:27 Infinity_69 will i get beta testing? 14:27 Infinity_69 :D 14:27 rubenwardy no promises 14:27 Infinity_69 o.o 14:27 MinetestBot Infinity_69: What are you wondering about? 14:27 Infinity_69 STFU 14:27 Kacey what project? 14:27 Infinity_69 oh, nothing :D 14:28 Infinity_69 zip it, ruben!\ 14:28 Infinity_69 bye 14:31 rubenwardy thank god 14:31 rubenwardy Infinity_69 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 14:32 Kacey open source game engine? 14:34 rubenwardy read the logs 14:35 Kacey :/ 14:43 rubenwardy mw ha ha ha! 14:44 rubenwardy https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B9kVN644cEKZRDZmOWdDYnFuM28/edit?usp=sharing 14:44 rubenwardy design docs 14:57 RealBadAngel This is what one can do rotating SINGLE node from stairs+ using new facedir system: 14:57 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/7EW3u8K.jpg 14:58 rubenwardy that is so cool 15:05 * john_minetest registers for the beta testing 15:06 rubenwardy the biggest problem I have is that my modeller does not do scene modelling 15:06 rubenwardy :P 15:06 rubenwardy beta is a long way away 15:07 rubenwardy when I get to alpha, I will release it 15:07 rubenwardy (for testing) 15:07 rubenwardy Remember Minetest is in Alpha 15:07 RealBadAngel alpha is pre beta ;) 15:07 rubenwardy iirc 15:07 rubenwardy yeah 15:07 RealBadAngel beta means almost ready to release 15:08 rubenwardy yeah 15:09 rubenwardy when I said release, I meant release some binaries and source so it can be tested 15:09 RealBadAngel i was reading last two weeks lotsa irrlicht docs 15:09 RealBadAngel to get some things done 15:09 RealBadAngel and i like 15:09 RealBadAngel *it 15:10 RealBadAngel lotsa stuff can be easily done thx to it 15:11 RealBadAngel brb, pizza time 15:11 rubenwardy yeah 15:13 rubenwardy gramatical mistake 15:16 harrison damn this overgrown twotone parakeet 15:16 harrison why must it perch on my typing wrist? 15:27 rubenwardy new screenshots: http://multa.webs.com/scrn_1.png 15:27 rubenwardy http://multa.webs.com/scrn_2.png 15:30 rubenwardy (ping: RealBadAngel) 15:31 RealBadAngel pong 15:31 rubenwardy ching 15:32 RealBadAngel lookin nice, whats the engine? 15:33 rubenwardy irrlicht is the 3d egine 15:33 rubenwardy "The Survivor" is the temporary name for the project 15:34 RealBadAngel what is gonna be? sanbox like mt? 15:34 rubenwardy yeah 15:34 rubenwardy but not like mt 15:34 rubenwardy It will be similar to DayZ 15:37 thexyz frankly speaking, gui looks like shit 15:37 RealBadAngel hehe 15:38 thexyz will it be free/libre? 15:38 RealBadAngel thexyz, have you seen facedir screens? 15:38 thexyz yeah 15:38 RealBadAngel i will push it later today 15:39 thexyz good 15:39 RealBadAngel have you read also about multibox? 15:39 thexyz no 15:40 RealBadAngel nodebox with each box in it with its own textures 15:44 RealBadAngel going to make it as a next step. in fact i already tested it. but lua interface code will take much longer than actual c++ code 15:45 rubenwardy what GUI element does MT use for inventory / menus 15:45 RealBadAngel all irrlicht stuff 15:46 rubenwardy ... 15:46 rubenwardy IGUIWindow? 15:46 rubenwardy I will just read the source 15:46 RealBadAngel read my patch makin new volume submenu 15:48 RealBadAngel also you may want to analyze this: http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/docu/example005.html 15:49 rubenwardy yeah, I know about that 15:49 rubenwardy so MT just use a 2d rectangle 15:57 thexyz rubenwardy: will it be free/libre? 15:58 sfan5 <rubenwardy> My project will probably be opensource 15:59 thexyz hm 15:59 sfan5 i hate this! error: invalid conversion from 'const char*' to 'char*' [-fpermissive] 16:01 * jordach is upgrading xubuntu 16:05 sfan5 i finally managed it to compile this damn code 16:06 jordach the irrlicht for droid? 16:06 sfan5 no 16:06 jordach linux kernel? 16:07 sfan5 no 16:07 sfan5 thread addidion to MineMovie 16:07 jordach AYE. 16:07 jordach that sounds awesome 16:08 robertj does minetest have a built in server browser? 16:08 sfan5 not really 16:08 rubenwardy HexChat crashed! 16:08 sfan5 but a builtin server list 16:08 rubenwardy thexyz: the gui looks like shit because it looks like shit 16:09 robertj i'm confused, so it does register with a central server? 16:09 jordach robertj, every time you login to a server you have not been on is the registration 16:09 rubenwardy it gets the details of servers from a central server 16:10 sfan5 now minemovie can record render and save images at the same 16:10 rubenwardy but you do not log into a central server 16:10 jordach (so i visit 127.0.0.1 for the first time, that is a registration) 16:10 robertj i dont' see a server list on the multiplayer tab though... 16:10 sfan5 time,the problem is that my hdd is not fast enough so the ram still fills up 16:10 rubenwardy you must not have a internet ready version 16:10 jordach robertj, then you need a build from thexyz, sfan5 or pilzadam# 16:10 rubenwardy called CURL 16:11 jordach rubenwardy, cURL 16:11 rubenwardy ... 16:11 sfan5 yeah jordach's right 16:11 robertj jordach, is upstream not accepting patches or something? 16:11 jordach robertj, upstream (master) @ github.com/minetest/minetest is accepting patches 16:12 robertj so why does it not have the server browser? did they just not want to carry the dep? 16:12 rubenwardy it is an old version 16:12 rubenwardy and/or was not made with cURL enabled 16:12 robertj so building from head with the appropriate args would have it? 16:13 jordach robertj, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4240 16:13 jordach do download the latest 16:13 jordach then a button called "show servers" will appear in the multiplayer tab 16:14 jordach btw, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=72618#p72618 16:15 rubenwardy ^ spam :P 16:15 sfan5 jordach: nice 16:15 rubenwardy that is cool 16:15 jordach rubenwardy, you can watch me live later 16:15 jordach my ports are OPEN 16:15 jordach bar SSH 16:15 jordach :D 16:16 jordach o hai PilzAdam, Calinou 16:16 jordach PilzAdam, you have three more BF3 fans 16:16 rubenwardy PilzAdam! 16:16 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 16:16 MinetestBot hi PilzAdam 16:16 Calinou hi 16:16 MinetestBot hi Calinou 16:16 Calinou jordach: /me is not a BF3 fan :< 16:16 * jordach waits for distribution upgrade 16:16 * Calinou is a PSU fan! 16:16 jordach Calinou, not you 16:17 jordach sfan5, instead of a hq format, why not use .pgv 16:17 jordach ogv* 16:17 jordach :trollface: 16:17 sfan5 maybe 16:17 Calinou webm ftw 16:17 sfan5 the .mov format seems to be simple 16:17 Calinou (actually, VP8 for video and vorbis for audio) 16:17 jordach sfan5, thats QUICKTIME. 16:17 sfan5 and it supports inputting the direct png data without any conversion 16:18 jordach thats an apple thing. 16:18 Calinou ^ 16:18 Calinou VP8 is very efficient, I tried it already 16:18 jordach if i wanted apple video, i'd use itunes u 16:18 * jordach found a chromium bug on imgur.com 16:18 jordach go use middle mouse button, it summons the upload file! 16:19 sfan5 its a simple format (although the developer documentation is 433 sites and a 4.7 mb pdf file) 16:19 Calinou http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/misc/tm.webm < 1280×720 webm video, 15.8MB only :P 16:19 robertj ok, so now i'm using the cool-people-version and the server list does show up 16:19 Calinou sfan5: so, would you use docx too? 16:19 sfan5 no 16:19 Calinou 4000 page documentation, it's an open format, just patented 16:19 sfan5 never 16:20 sfan5 i don't even use .doc 16:20 robertj can servers do anything in terms of client-side scripting? 16:20 sfan5 they can do nothing 16:20 thexyz rubenwardy: time to try irssi now then 16:20 sfan5 they can't even execute lua code on your client 16:20 thexyz it doesn't crash 16:20 rubenwardy no 16:20 robertj sfan5, so if you want them to register a choice you dig a room, teleport them there, and tell them to press a button? 16:20 * jordach spots Calinou in the top right 16:21 sfan5 robertj: yeah 16:21 Calinou didn't use a timer for stopping video recording :P 16:21 jordach robertj, nope. its all server side. 16:21 Calinou and didn't cut it in openshot too 16:21 thexyz rubenwardy: why? 16:22 sfan5 jordach: what i did in the last 1.5 hours https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/commit/e038b90703d7ecd4be2b7ddeebe6075082a6e40b 16:22 jordach Calinou, also high five for clementine 16:22 Calinou :-D 16:22 * jordach likes the ithing syncing 16:22 * jordach has an ipad 16:22 thexyz wtf is minemovie? 16:22 jordach thexyz, a screencap in minetest 16:22 sfan5 thexyz: minetest built in videorecorder 16:23 * sfan5 has an ipod touch 16:23 thexyz hm.. 16:23 jordach HOLD DAFUQ ON. 16:23 Calinou cool, no longer need to remember the ffmpeg command to record MT videos :> 16:23 thexyz that'll never be merged, you know? 16:23 * jordach has found a way to download ambiance 16:23 jordach without curl 16:23 jordach http://c55.me/blog/?p=1346 16:24 khonkhortisan ambience is great when swimming, but gets annoying with that bird sound 16:24 sfan5 Calinou: if you have a fast hdd thats good, because your ram gets full if the SaveThread can't save the images fast enough 16:24 jordach sfan5, stop using a bloated format 16:24 sfan5 png is not a bloated format 16:24 jordach .mov is 16:25 * khonkhortisan uses .mov 16:25 Calinou ^ 16:25 Calinou webm pls 16:25 sfan5 i don't (fu*cking) use .mov 16:25 khonkhortisan I have no choice, it's what my camera uses 16:25 sfan5 khonkhortisan: you can easily convert it 16:25 jordach ...and fuck the poilce! 16:25 jordach police* 16:25 sfan5 it just saves the frames as images 16:26 Calinou AVI recording could be nice too, lightweight on the CPU/GPU 16:26 khonkhortisan I didn't find converting that easy, but youtube did 16:26 Calinou then you encode in the format you like 16:26 sfan5 i used a program called Monte MovieMaker to combine these into a .mov file 16:26 sfan5 khonkhortisan: ffmpeg? 16:26 Calinou any 7200rpm HDD from < 3 years ago and today's 5400rpm HDDs are fast enough for this, at least for 1280×720 :P 16:26 khonkhortisan I was using some text commands and didn't get it right 16:26 Calinou sfan5: VLC can convert vids :P 16:26 sfan5 ik 16:26 Calinou and ffmpeg too, of course 16:27 sfan5 <Calinou> any 7200rpm HDD from < 3 years ago and today's 5400rpm HDDs are fast enough for this, at least for 1280×720 :P 16:27 Calinou and openshot (some free video editing software) 16:27 sfan5 my hdd doesn't manage it to save 30 800x600 frames in time 16:27 Calinou last one doesn't use several CPU cores, slow as hell :-D 16:27 thexyz saving movie in .png is just.. wrong? 16:27 thexyz and random too 16:27 jordach no .jpg? no .jpg. 16:28 sfan5 thexyz: i know that, i wanted a working example before i add some video codec 16:28 Calinou blame your laptop vendor for putting a 5400rpm HDD :P 16:28 sfan5 jordach: you jpg support will come in 2 mins 16:28 * sfan5 blames Packard Bell 16:28 sfan5 *your 16:28 sfan5 *jpg 16:28 thexyz add a video codec into minetest? 16:29 sfan5 yes 16:29 sfan5 more like add a video coded to the SaveThread code 16:29 sfan5 *codec 16:29 thexyz oh well 16:29 thexyz anyway, that's not going into minetest/minetest so I should feel safe 16:30 sfan5 yeah 16:30 Calinou thexyz: why is it a bad idea to add a video codec into minetest? 16:30 thexyz but I'd suggest you to do something useful 16:30 khonkhortisan When did upstream move? 16:30 Calinou recording videos without using external software is a great idea, we just need a good format :p 16:30 thexyz why is it a good idea? 16:30 sfan5 khonkhortisan: yesterday 16:30 thexyz let's implement our new one then! 16:30 thexyz MinetestVideo 16:30 Calinou not everyone wants to learn your magic ffmpeg command 16:31 thexyz .mv 16:31 Calinou no new formats, no 16:31 khonkhortisan okay, so I didn't really miss it then 16:31 thexyz great? 16:31 thexyz why no? 16:31 jordach because nobody knows the format 16:31 Calinou use a free format like webm or ogv... 16:31 khonkhortisan there are many great reasons why not to create a new format 16:31 PilzAdam thexyz, have you updated travis? 16:31 thexyz there are as well many great reasons why not to include video codec into minetest 16:31 thexyz PilzAdam: no, why should I? 16:32 PilzAdam because it still says c55/minetest 16:32 PilzAdam and there were also problems in one build IIRC 16:32 Calinou look at minecraft, look at the amount of players requesting ingame video recording, we could basically beat mojang on that point 16:32 rubenwardy has upstream moved? 16:32 thexyz PilzAdam: https://travis-ci.org/minetest/minetest 16:32 PilzAdam rubenwardy, yes, to minetest/minetest 16:32 rubenwardy ooh 16:32 rubenwardy why? 16:32 thexyz all new commits should appear there 16:32 PilzAdam minetest is now an organization 16:32 rubenwardy is the focus going away from celeron66? 16:33 rubenwardy *55 16:33 jordach aw man 16:33 rubenwardy oh right 16:33 thexyz we took it over from c55 16:33 PilzAdam rubenwardy, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-02-24#i_2893971 16:34 khonkhortisan Why is there no git remote set-url -push origin ? 16:34 khonkhortisan I mean, --pull 16:34 infinity_69 hi 16:34 MinetestBot hi infinity_69 16:34 rubenwardy I see 16:34 infinity_69 stfu MinetestBot, i hate you, get it yet? 16:34 infinity_69 hi ruben 16:34 infinity_69 :D 16:35 sfan5 TheBonsai: what about this? ;) http://pastie.org/private/tyv6b1pgcjl3dmu9l3evow 16:35 rubenwardy hi... 16:35 infinity_69 rubenwardy, how do i add a comment to html/php 16:35 rubenwardy for html: 16:35 rubenwardy for php: // comment 16:35 rubenwardy or /* comment */ 16:36 infinity_69 well, .php but not in a php script block 16:36 thexyz sfan5: TheBonsai is probably not interested in that 16:36 sfan5 fuck autocomplete 16:36 infinity_69 so its 16:36 rubenwardy is readable by the users that visit the page 16:36 sfan5 thexyz: what about this? ;) http://pastie.org/private/tyv6b1pgcjl3dmu9l3evow 16:36 rubenwardy / goes in 16:36 rubenwardy *// goes in 16:36 Calinou heh, TheBonsai IRCs as root 16:36 infinity_69 is a php script block... 16:36 khonkhortisan I would assume that's dangerous in some way 16:37 rubenwardy of course 16:37 infinity_69 hey rubenwardy, is it possible for a php script to get info about the browser that the website is being viewed from? 16:37 thexyz or just has his/her ident spoofed 16:38 rubenwardy nice 16:38 RealBadAngel another image from tests: again just one node: http://i.imgur.com/m9sInWR.jpg 16:39 jordach TETRIS 16:40 jordach hey RealBadAngel 16:40 RealBadAngel hehe 16:40 * jordach is a linux user now 16:40 thexyz sfan5: I don't get it, where do you push things into RenderThread's m_quene? 16:40 thexyz also, what does m_quene mean? 16:41 thexyz it looks more like a stack.. 16:41 infinity_69 m_quene = my quiet users even nest everything 16:41 sfan5 i probably ment m_queue 16:41 infinity_69 oh :D 16:41 thexyz not queue 16:41 khonkhortisan looks like quiche to me 16:41 sfan5 ..... 16:41 thexyz anyway, >where do you push things into RenderThread's m_quene? 16:41 sfan5 its not RenderThread 16:41 sfan5 no wait 16:42 sfan5 ... 16:42 jordach m_queef :lol: 16:42 * jordach grins 16:42 thexyz also 16:42 thexyz sfan5: that video format is fun 16:43 thexyz I'll probably have to buy another 3tb drive 16:43 sfan5 thexyz: i used an existing std::vector and referenced it, so i don't have to make additional code for pushing the images to the vecotr 16:43 sfan5 *vector 16:43 jordach like a house of fun? 16:43 thexyz sfan5: there's also std::queue 16:44 thexyz which is FIFO queue, and your "queue" is actually LIFO (stack) 16:44 sfan5 i just wrote "const car* video_fmt" 16:44 thexyz or, well, I can't be sure because I don't see any push-es to it 16:45 sfan5 thexyz: https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/blob/minemovie/src/game.cpp#L1719 16:46 sfan5 that is referenced at https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/blob/minemovie/src/game.cpp#L2119 16:48 PilzAdam sfan5, is the minemovie branch in a "stable" state? 16:48 sfan5 yes 16:49 PilzAdam Ill maybe do an win build 16:49 sfan5 i could do that too 16:49 sfan5 PilzAdam: did you test minemovie for yourself? 16:49 * PilzAdam is testing right now 16:50 PilzAdam yay! crashed 16:50 sfan5 did you ram fill up? 16:50 sfan5 *your 16:50 PilzAdam nope 16:50 PilzAdam Speicherzugriffsfehler (Speicherabzug geschrieben) 16:51 Calinou segfault 16:51 sfan5 thats just a segfault 16:51 * Calinou does not speak german 16:51 PilzAdam happens instantly when pressing F8 16:51 thexyz gdb time 16:51 sfan5 i had to use gdb too, the debug binary of minetest was 42 mb 16:52 Calinou PilzAdam: did you bind console to F8? :P 16:52 Calinou didn't have a chat console segfault in a long time personally 16:53 PilzAdam sfan5, git reset HEAD~1 works until stopping the record 16:53 sfan5 PilzAdam: make sure you don't go before the "fix segfault" commit 16:55 sfan5 jordach: you order has been delivered ;) https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/commit/f881346f53ec56a0bd793382818e4f2720e97f45 16:58 Calinou call it video_format instead, not video_fmt 16:58 Calinou more self-explanatory :P 16:58 * PilzAdam SysRQ'd 16:59 PilzAdam sfan5, is the minemovie branch in a "stable" state? 16:59 PilzAdam yes 16:59 PilzAdam ^ no :-D 17:00 sfan5 PilzAdam: it should be stable 17:00 sfan5 i tested it multiple times after each change 17:00 PilzAdam my ram filled up 17:01 PilzAdam lets to the same thing again :-) 17:01 sfan5 *do 17:02 * Calinou will test sfan5's branch 17:02 sfan5 yay 17:02 PilzAdam sfan5, it simply segfaults every time I stop recording 17:02 PilzAdam and with the latest commit it segfaults at startup 17:02 PilzAdam *starting recording 17:02 sfan5 i use 7dfab68e1b and it works 17:03 Calinou my 12GB ram will finally be useful :-D 17:03 sfan5 try building a debug build and debugging with gdb 17:03 khonkhortisan A fluid simulation in blender could easily eat that up 17:03 PilzAdam sfan5, oh, wait, lemme get the latest 2 commits 17:04 sfan5 the 2 latest commits should fix that problem 17:04 * sfan5 will try .jpg format 17:04 PilzAdam it still segfaults when pressing F8 :-) 17:05 PilzAdam *:-( 17:05 sfan5 time to <sfan5> try building a debug build and debugging with gdb 17:05 Calinou have to go :| 17:05 sfan5 :| 17:05 Calinou lots of warnings when compiling, btw 17:05 sfan5 ik 17:05 PilzAdam I see the "record starging" thing for some milliseconds or so 17:07 sfan5 ~2000 frames in jpg - 200 mb 17:07 thexyz now convert it into h264 17:08 thexyz to see the difference 17:08 markveidemanis hi 17:09 markveidemanis help 17:09 markveidemanis i need the player sit mod... 17:09 markveidemanis and better breathing animation links 17:09 sfan5 ask google 17:10 markveidemanis k, i should have thought of that... :D 17:10 rubenwardy the current idle animation looks like the avatar is humping the air 17:11 PilzAdam sfan5, it stops at: RenderThread::Thread (this=0x7fffffffb620) at /home/adam/Minetest/minetest/src/game.cpp:265 17:11 PilzAdam 265 image->setPixel(x,y,irr::video::SColor(255,r,g,b),false); 17:12 sfan5 PilzAdam: have you changed the window size during recording 17:12 PilzAdam nope 17:12 sfan5 hm 17:12 PilzAdam i just pressed F8 17:12 sfan5 screen resulution 17:12 sfan5 ? 17:12 PilzAdam default 17:12 PilzAdam 800x600 iirc 17:12 sfan5 hm 17:13 markveidemanis ok i have been away a few weeks, fill me in 17:13 markveidemanis whats new 17:13 sfan5 PilzAdam: could you type "bt" into the gdb console 17:13 sfan5 markveidemanis: i started working on my minetest built in video recorder again 17:13 markveidemanis link? 17:14 * VanessaE peeks in. boo. 17:14 markveidemanis just use fraps 17:14 thexyz no, ffmpeg 17:14 * sfan5 agrees 17:14 sfan5 VanessaE: hello, do you have time to test https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/tree/minemovie 17:14 markveidemanis just compiling now... 17:14 markveidemanis lots of new cpp's 17:15 VanessaE not right now 17:15 markveidemanis i would test... 17:15 VanessaE not really awake right now 17:15 markveidemanis but im not compiling again and recording freezez my pc 17:15 sfan5 VanessaE: ok 17:16 markveidemanis OldCoder... 17:16 markveidemanis i need to reset the map of my server... :D 17:16 markveidemanis so many unknown blocks... 17:17 markveidemanis has the latest update addressed speed? 17:17 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/ is screwed 17:18 infinity_69 hi 17:18 MinetestBot hi infinity_69 17:18 infinity_69 oh, come on! 17:18 markveidemanis hi 17:18 markveidemanis LOL 17:18 infinity_69 what 17:18 infinity_69 :D 17:18 markveidemanis haha he listens to you!! 17:19 infinity_69 who, mtb? 17:19 markveidemanis doesn't give a shit to me... 17:19 markveidemanis yep 17:19 infinity_69 yeah, it's my bit*h 17:19 infinity_69 :D 17:19 rubenwardy markveidemanis: you are on the ignorelist 17:19 markveidemanis !up yourmom.com 30029 17:19 infinity_69 hey mark, lets play 8 ball pool multiplayer on miniclip 17:19 infinity_69 :D 17:19 markveidemanis uhh...ok 17:20 infinity_69 !up hvgaming.bugs3.com 80 17:20 MinetestBot hvgaming.bugs3.com:80 seems to be down 17:20 infinity_69 aww... 17:20 rubenwardy https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/antiabuse.py#L10 17:20 markveidemanis minetest org 30010 17:20 infinity_69 :/ 17:20 infinity_69 hehe 17:20 infinity_69 hey rubenwardy, come here and lets play 17:21 infinity_69 http://www.miniclip.com/games/8-ball-pool-multiplayer/en/ 17:23 markveidemanis who has been on minetest.org server? 17:23 markveidemanis who to grant interact... 17:23 infinity_69 idk... 17:23 infinity_69 :D 17:23 markveidemanis who wants to be MOD ? 17:24 markveidemanis you get teleport,basic_privs,give,fly,noclip 17:24 thexyz me! 17:24 infinity_69 ME 17:24 infinity_69 :D 17:24 markveidemanis no 17:24 infinity_69 o.o 17:24 MinetestBot infinity_69: What are you wondering about? 17:24 markveidemanis not thexyz 17:24 thexyz why are you asking then? 17:24 infinity_69 oh, nothing...just chilling... 17:24 markveidemanis infinity_69: you really wanna be mod? 17:24 markveidemanis how often will u go on 17:24 infinity_69 nope :D 17:25 infinity_69 i wont 17:25 markveidemanis u need to be like davidpace on redcrab 17:25 markveidemanis that often! 17:25 markveidemanis lol 17:25 infinity_69 so, i have to be a "no-lifer"? 17:25 markveidemanis yop 17:25 markveidemanis im sure you can find someone like that here 17:26 * markveidemanis reconsiders thexyz... 17:26 infinity_69 :d 17:27 infinity_69 hey, if i just open a .py file with python, does the bot connect to a channel? 17:27 markveidemanis yop 17:27 infinity_69 wow :D 17:27 markveidemanis not if its blank 17:27 infinity_69 nice 17:27 infinity_69 i know 17:27 infinity_69 i mean sfan5's bot 17:27 rubenwardy you need to have python installed 17:27 markveidemanis arrrggghhh...Minetest update 17:27 infinity_69 i know 17:27 markveidemanis why the shit selection box??? 17:27 infinity_69 rly? 17:27 infinity_69 what 17:27 infinity_69 :D 17:28 markveidemanis and OH GOD the fly is...ruined 17:28 jordach bbiab 17:28 markveidemanis i knew this would happen... 17:28 rubenwardy I like the new fly 17:28 infinity_69 mark, you mean MT 0.4.4? 17:29 rubenwardy|away brb 17:29 infinity_69 ok 17:30 markveidemanis yep... 17:30 markveidemanis fly is shit 17:30 markveidemanis keep it as it isd 17:30 markveidemanis list of things to change: 17:30 infinity_69 oh, the noclip and fly were seperated 17:30 infinity_69 noclip = H 17:31 infinity_69 fly = F 17:31 infinity_69 i think... 17:31 markveidemanis remove noclip, make fly normal, make it faster... 17:31 markveidemanis and all that 17:31 * jordach is back 17:31 jordach markveidemanis, fly was changed since people didnt want to intrude by accident 17:32 markveidemanis intrude? 17:32 rubenwardy|away I like the changes 17:32 infinity_69 me too 17:32 markveidemanis make it configurable 17:32 rubenwardy it is 17:32 rubenwardy just keep noclip on all of the time 17:32 rubenwardy and fast as well 17:32 markveidemanis rightclick still drops my adminpick 17:32 * rubenwardy is back 17:33 jordach rubenwardy, wanna see the map properly? 17:33 rubenwardy yeah? 17:33 jordach pm for IP 17:33 markveidemanis fast is too slow!!! 17:34 markveidemanis how do i fix the minecraft-like fly bullshit? 17:34 infinity_69 then put fast on! 17:34 markveidemanis i did 17:34 infinity_69 you dont 17:34 jordach markveidemanis, YOU CANT 17:34 infinity_69 deal with it 17:34 infinity_69 jordach, there is 1 way... 17:34 jordach markveidemanis, physics 17:34 markveidemanis HELP THEN! 17:34 infinity_69 change the c++ code 17:34 markveidemanis FUCK YOU NEWTON 17:34 jordach change noclip. fuck minetest. 17:35 jordach up* 17:35 jordach bbiab, rubenwardy food 17:35 markveidemanis who wants to build skytown? 17:36 infinity_69 ME 17:36 infinity_69 ...NOT 17:36 markveidemanis anyone??>>> 17:36 infinity_69 nope 17:36 markveidemanis I will! 17:36 markveidemanis when do i get started? 17:36 kaeza greetings 17:36 markveidemanis kaeza 17:37 kaeza sup markv? 17:37 markveidemanis greetings fellow earthling 17:37 markveidemanis i invite you to join my server to build skytown 17:37 kaeza markveidemanis, too busy right now 17:37 markveidemanis ok 17:37 kaeza maybe later :) 17:37 markveidemanis who else will? 17:38 markveidemanis when you come on, just type /go skytown 17:41 markveidemanis who is feeling random today? 17:42 kaeza VanessaE, are you here? 17:42 infinity_69 she isnt here, kaeza, go away... 17:42 infinity_69 xD 17:42 VanessaE barely. 17:42 markveidemanis is 'markveidemanis, too busy right now' a polite way of saying i don't give a shit? 17:42 markveidemanis :D 17:42 kaeza ah ok. I have some nice stuff for homedecor 17:42 VanessaE oh? 17:43 infinity_69 omg, she is real o.o 17:43 VanessaE yeah, I'm real. 17:43 kaeza all stuff in which you can store things (cabinets, fridge, etc) have a locked version 17:43 VanessaE nice 17:43 infinity_69 OMG, she talked to me O.O 17:43 * infinity_69 fainted 17:44 kaeza VanessaE, I will make a pull request for it if you are interested. 17:44 kaeza It's only a small change to init.lua and a new file 17:44 VanessaE please do 17:45 Exio kaeza: hey! long time no see! 17:45 kaeza sup Exio? how you doin'? 17:45 Exio nvm, you? :P 17:46 kaeza not much :P just h4x1ng 17:46 infinity_69 KAEZA, you h4x3r 17:46 infinity_69 xD 17:46 kaeza also: I'm at home!!11!!!one!!! 17:46 VanessaE h4x0r you mean 17:47 VanessaE kaeza: internet access finally? that took long enough huh. 17:47 infinity_69 vanessae, tomato, tomata 17:47 kaeza err...what? 17:47 VanessaE no. that is a word you must never misspell. 17:47 * VanessaE takes away infinity_69's geek card. 17:47 VanessaE kaeza: you were having connectivity issues at home I thought? 17:48 kaeza yup, sadly :( 17:48 kaeza not anymore :) 17:48 VanessaE went with the other ISP then? 17:48 infinity_69 please, VanessaE, please give it back, my mom uses it in the library... 17:48 kaeza now I can play on your server ^_^ 17:48 kaeza no :( 17:48 VanessaE the one that wasn't gonna shaft you 17:48 VanessaE aw. damn :( 17:49 VanessaE kaeza: you know it has a new map now, right? 17:49 infinity_69 so, vaness, what about it? 17:49 infinity_69 will you give it back? 17:49 VanessaE infinity_69: sorry, already shredded it. 17:49 kaeza yup 17:49 jfu a question, there is no information on the wiki about coppar ingot. is that because im playing using some special mod? 17:50 infinity_69 o.o' 17:50 * VanessaE hands infinity_69 a small pile of shreddings and a roll of scotch tape 17:50 kaeza jfu, it's from moreores 17:50 infinity_69 thanks... 17:50 infinity_69 -.- 17:50 jfu kaeza: ok thx 17:50 VanessaE jfu: More Ores mod. and it's "copper" 17:50 infinity_69 vanessae, do you have any duck tape? 17:50 jfu english isnt my native tounge so... 17:50 VanessaE nope 17:50 infinity_69 tounge? 17:50 infinity_69 xD 17:50 infinity_69 oh ok... 17:51 infinity_69 o.o 17:51 MinetestBot infinity_69: What are you wondering about? 17:51 VanessaE tongue. 17:51 infinity_69 your shiney metal as* 17:51 infinity_69 yeah, i understood that, but i mean that it isnt tongue, its language xD 17:51 kaeza jfu, just find copper, and cook it to get ingots 17:51 infinity_69 VanessaE, lick my shiney metal a*s 17:51 VanessaE infinity_69: "native tongue" is a synonym for "native language". 17:52 infinity_69 potato, tomato... -.- 17:52 infinity_69 g2g 17:52 infinity_69 bye 17:52 VanessaE good. 17:52 infinity_69 troll with ya tomorrow 17:52 VanessaE :) 17:52 kaeza lol 17:52 kaeza speedquit? 17:53 VanessaE had to, couldn't pass up the opportunity :-) 17:53 markveidemanis i use that sometimes 17:53 markveidemanis mostly not of my choice... 17:53 kaeza /roundhousekick markveidemanis 17:54 jfu kaeza: yeah thats what i did, then i looked at the wiki and couldnt find any info so i assume this server used some addons of sort, or the wiki wasnt updated 17:55 kaeza hmm... 17:57 kaeza jfu, BTW, what's your native language, if I may ask? 17:58 * jordach pokes rubenwardy 17:58 rubenwardy potato! 18:00 jfu kaeza: swedish 18:00 kaeza ah ok. just asking :) 18:07 Noklz ghrshadfhsfgu';jtr'#fhg;jo/#kjdt/'#fhk'tchv#lkdt#f 18:07 Noklz hgjl',dtg 18:07 Noklz #k'dt]f#ig 18:07 Noklz j'esrdg#ik'jhse 18:10 thexyz why ban? 18:10 VanessaE I have no tolerance for join+flood 18:10 VanessaE I seen way too much of that shit over the years. 18:11 VanessaE besides, it ain't permanent. 18:13 kaeza LM again? 18:14 VanessaE dunno 18:14 VanessaE though LM's usual modus operandi isn't to just join+flood with random gibberish 18:14 VanessaE (usually it's more....colorful... and directed) 18:14 kaeza yeah, I guess 18:15 khonkhortisan it looks like qwerty flood 18:16 VanessaE gotta run 18:16 khonkhortisan MinetestBot says bye 18:16 jordach VanessaE, that isnt him, sky.com is a british ISP 18:17 Noklz bad cat no walking on keyboard 18:17 Noklz so i downloaded minetest today 18:17 Noklz i put bookshelfs everywhere and the screen went black 18:17 Noklz what hapened 18:18 khonkhortisan Did you place the bookshelves straight down, making yourself inside them? 18:18 jordach the pattern does match a cat's walking 18:18 kaeza VanessaE, https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/pull/2 18:18 Noklz oooh i got trapped in the bookshelves 18:18 Noklz oops 18:19 jordach Noklz, the walking is a cat pattern 18:19 jordach he went left to right 18:19 Noklz yay 18:19 khonkhortisan but there's no 3, just # 18:20 jordach kaeza, implent whats in this list: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=59327#p59327 18:20 jordach implement 18:20 jordach ** 18:20 OldCoder Hi 18:20 MinetestBot hi OldCoder 18:20 jordach morning OldCoder 18:20 OldCoder Oh 18:21 OldCoder Noklz found this room? 18:21 Noklz yes 18:21 Noklz meow 18:21 kaeza jordach, now THAT's a list :D 18:21 OldCoder Noklz, behave 18:21 Noklz CAN YOU SPAWN CATS IN MINETEST 18:21 OldCoder Noklz, we will 18:21 OldCoder Folks, Noklz is a bit different 18:21 jordach kaeza, go nuts 18:21 OldCoder Noklz, you must moderate yourself here 18:21 Noklz oldcoder are you a developer of minetest 18:21 jordach Noklz, the nyan cat can be spawned 18:22 khonkhortisan When I was new to minetest, I made a long hallway, slanted down from the shore because I didn't know about buckets with a river through the center. I then made a library, complete with fireplace and bookshelves. The bookshelves soon burned down. 18:22 OldCoder Noklz, I was... it was interrupted but will resume 18:22 Noklz ok 18:22 Noklz oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo# 18:22 OldCoder Noklz, you can be different here but there are limits 18:22 Noklz ew limits 18:22 OldCoder They are not going to allow some of the usual stuff 18:22 khonkhortisan to get things to move other than people you need mods 18:22 Noklz i peel my skin off and put it in a pickle jar 18:22 OldCoder Others, Noklz here is very different 18:23 OldCoder Noklz, No! 18:23 OldCoder You will need to chill 18:23 Noklz No? 18:23 OldCoder Or they will mute you 18:23 Noklz :( 18:23 khonkhortisan that won't preserver it 18:23 OldCoder Actually, I will 18:23 Noklz WHAT ARE YOU OP 18:23 OldCoder What was the flag again? 18:23 * jordach is considering writing a highlights of #minetest 18:23 OldCoder Yes, actually 18:23 khonkhortisan there are ops lurking around 18:23 jordach OldCoder, +q 18:23 Noklz NONOVONVOBNFXKNPLH;' 18:23 OldCoder jordach, I will mute him until he gets accustomed to the place 18:23 Noklz no :< 18:23 OldCoder Noklz, you know it's for the best 18:24 jordach "This isn't a playground." 18:24 OldCoder Hang on while I op myself... Looking for the command 18:24 Noklz :( why are you doing this 18:24 * khonkhortisan ops OldCoder 18:24 OldCoder To help you 18:24 OldCoder Damn can't find my notes 18:24 OldCoder Huh 18:24 khonkhortisan leaving won't stop a quiet 18:25 markveidemanis OldCoder 18:25 OldCoder Folks if he returns and I am not here, mute him but don't shout at him... he is very different 18:25 OldCoder markveidemanis, Hi 18:25 kaeza OldCoder, /msg chanserv OP #minetest OldCoder ? 18:25 OldCoder kaeza, ty 18:25 khonkhortisan what kind of different? 18:25 OldCoder khonkhortisan, I am actually writing a book about all of the people I know... online and in real life 18:25 markveidemanis can you reset my server map? 18:25 khonkhortisan cool 18:25 OldCoder My redacted family and some of the people I've grown to know here 18:26 OldCoder I think it will be interesting 18:26 markveidemanis OC.. 18:26 OldCoder We know some things about Noklz... it is probably a combination of roleplay and neurodiverse 18:26 OldCoder Like you MarkV. What do you need? 18:26 jordach OldCoder, markveidemanis is requesting his server map reset 18:26 OldCoder Ah! 18:26 OldCoder Whoa 18:26 markveidemanis can you reset the map except the worldedit things 18:26 markveidemanis in an hour 18:26 OldCoder You are requesting an erase?? 18:27 markveidemanis just too many unknowns 18:27 markveidemanis yep 18:27 jordach markveidemanis, worldedit //save will be helpful 18:27 markveidemanis but not now 18:27 OldCoder I don't wish to do that! 18:27 OldCoder Is there no other way? 18:27 Vadtec each game defined in minetest will look in games/ for minetest.conf, correct? 18:27 jordach OldCoder, i have now switched to linux full time 18:27 kaeza Vadtec, nope 18:27 OldCoder markveidemanis, If the world can't be fixed we'll discuss it 18:27 markveidemanis i think minetest's terrain has improved 18:27 khonkhortisan minetest.conf is in games/.. 18:27 OldCoder jordach, All right. I'd love to talk distros sometimes. 18:27 jordach markveidemanis, that is correct 18:27 Vadtec kaeza: where does it look then? 18:27 OldCoder markveidemanis, It is my hope... 18:27 jordach Vadtec, what specifics 18:27 Vadtec ah, ok 18:27 markveidemanis and practically the only buildings are spawn and skycity 18:28 OldCoder and this is for others too... 18:28 khonkhortisan /.minetest/minetest.conf 18:28 kaeza Vadtec, ~/.minetest/minetest.conf 18:28 OldCoder To return full time to Minetest as a full fledged core dev this Spring 18:28 OldCoder markveidemanis, until some things are settled 18:28 OldCoder I am proceeding very cautiously with my worlds 18:28 Vadtec jordach: i want to tune active_block_range a bit, but it doesnt seem to be persisting after server restarts 18:28 OldCoder A reset is a last resort but we can discuss it 18:29 jordach Vadtec, aye, that sounds reasonable 18:29 OldCoder I have a meeting down the street in real life... with the patent attorney I call DNA on my blog and an old friend from 20 years ago 18:29 OldCoder Today and tomorrow I got more IRL stuff to deal with. But I should be around on Wednesday to discuss updates and resets. 18:29 jordach Deoxysneurofib 18:29 OldCoder Yep 18:30 khonkhortisan deoxyribose-neucleic acid 18:30 OldCoder Again... if Noklz comes you will need to mute him. Do that instead of kick ban please. 18:30 Vadtec jordach: the thing is, im not finding minetest.conf in any dirs other than the example one 18:30 OldCoder He will adapt in time 18:30 markveidemanis 10680 nodes saved 18:30 khonkhortisan without the neuro fiber 18:30 OldCoder He is the I call No Clues on my blog 18:30 OldCoder :-) 18:30 OldCoder How did he find Minetest? I don't think he plays games 18:30 jordach OldCoder, i am currently hanging around here for a while, it'd be best to tell me the command for a mute and OP me until you return 18:30 jordach (or at least you become free.) 18:31 markveidemanis NO theres conifers... 18:31 markveidemanis il just save spawn_building 18:32 khonkhortisan Is it possible with mesecons for a node to both conduct and run a function on change? 18:32 sfan5 khonkhortisan: iirc yes 18:33 markveidemanis now for skycity... 18:33 kaeza speaking of mesecons, it seems there's a bug with movestones 18:33 jordach kaeza, hm? 18:33 khonkhortisan I think that's a long-standing one 18:33 kaeza if I put a node in "front" of the device (to be pushed) it overwrites it at stop 18:34 khonkhortisan it's supposed to create an entity out of it while moving it 18:34 markveidemanis saving skycity... 18:34 OldCoder jordach, you are temporarily opped 18:34 jordach thanks 18:34 jordach pm me the +q command 18:34 OldCoder jordach, you'll need to review the commands by Google... I must leave for a meeting and can't PM the command 18:34 jordach just in case. 18:35 * NekoGloop|Laptop puts a kitten on jordach's head 18:35 OldCoder Plus thexyz will tell you if he is awake 18:35 kaeza and if I put it in the back to be pulled by a stick MvS, it just leaves it one node behind 18:35 kaeza sticky* 18:35 OldCoder jordach, do not shout at No Clues or lecture him 18:35 markveidemanis /mode #minetest jordach +q 18:35 markveidemanis or smth 18:35 OldCoder Treat as an obstreperous child 18:35 OldCoder Simply mute him for a while 18:35 OldCoder He learns from that 18:35 OldCoder Prefers to be a part of things 18:35 NekoGloop|Laptop /mode #minetest +q jordach 18:35 jordach OldCoder, i understand 18:35 OldCoder Heh 18:35 jordach NekoGloop|Laptop, hai 18:36 markveidemanis i think i crashed ur VPS... 18:36 jordach btw, my map is actually open atm 18:36 NekoGloop|Laptop Then I'll view it 18:36 markveidemanis let me know if it saves it 18:36 jordach NekoGloop|Laptop, pm 18:36 markveidemanis also, the server logs dont work 18:36 NekoGloop|Laptop After all, I can multitask with minetest on this laptop 18:36 NekoGloop|Laptop (unlike my PC) 18:37 Exio jordach: /mode #channel +q , the mask has a "format" nick!ident@host, and accepts wildcards, 18:37 khonkhortisan /msg NickServ identify mysupersecretpass 18:37 khonkhortisan oops :P 18:37 NekoGloop|Laptop /mode #minetest +q *!*@* 18:37 Exio xD 18:37 NekoGloop|Laptop Shaddup. 18:37 jordach winning. 18:37 markveidemanis whythe **---!!!888!__- 18:38 NekoGloop|Laptop That reminds me, I need to pin Minetest to my start menu and taskbar. 18:38 * john_minetest puts a kitten on NekoGloop's Laptop 18:38 * NekoGloop|Laptop the kitten types really well bfdkajgbfbhajiuaug89h8qb438787thrdsgfehugre 18:38 khonkhortisan I just run minetest from the same terminal I git pull and make it in 18:39 khonkhortisan that's now a running joke 18:39 jordach btw, i aint as leaniant as marktraceur 18:40 jordach a joke is fine, but bullying isnt 18:40 NekoGloop|Laptop I so l33t, i download LoL, play youtube videos, play minetest, and download SMBX. At once. 18:40 * rubenwardy puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head 18:40 MinetestBot rubenwardy: I don't want it, talk to NekoGloop, he likes kittens 18:41 NekoGloop|Laptop I can use more of my internet than I have internet. This is new. 18:41 rubenwardy should I eat you? 18:41 MinetestBot rubenwardy: You decide 18:41 jordach NekoGloop|Laptop, time out 18:41 rubenwardy should I eat you? 18:41 MinetestBot rubenwardy: You decide 18:41 rubenwardy should I eat you? 18:41 MinetestBot rubenwardy: You decide 18:41 rubenwardy should I eat a kitten? 18:41 MinetestBot rubenwardy: I don't recommend eating kittens 18:41 NekoGloop|Laptop jordach: yes? 18:41 jordach reconnect 18:41 rubenwardy should I eat nekogloop? 18:41 MinetestBot rubenwardy: You decide 18:41 rubenwardy should I eat a bot? 18:41 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Don't eat me D: 18:41 NekoGloop|Laptop should i eat a cake? 18:41 MinetestBot NekoGloop|Laptop: You decide 18:41 rubenwardy should I eat MinetestBot? 18:41 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Don't eat me D: 18:42 rubenwardy should I eat sfan? 18:42 MinetestBot rubenwardy: You decide 18:42 Vadtec so if active_block_range is 5, and i want to use teleport pipes from pipeworks to send items 1000m away, what happens to the items being sent if the other end isnt loaded and active? do the items just get queue up, or do they poof? 18:43 Vadtec or by the same token, what if i run a long pipeline between the two ends, what happens if the middle sections arent loaded? 18:46 thexyz wtf happened? 18:47 Vadtec thexyz: was that for me? 18:48 rubenwardy woops, accidental DDOS: * Ping reply from wolfe.freenode.net: 39.38 second(s) 18:48 * rubenwardy wants somebody to make a map for his game 18:49 thexyz Vadtec: not at all 18:49 thexyz Vadtec: they'll freeze 18:49 thexyz forever 18:49 thexyz freezed forever 18:49 thexyz how sad 18:50 Vadtec thexyz: so id have to set active_block_range to something seriously high and hope the server can take it? 18:50 thexyz actually, there was some work on implementing entities that are not unloaded 18:51 thexyz it wasn't merged though 18:51 thexyz https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/446 18:51 Vadtec thats what i was looking for, similar to chunk loader from mc 18:52 Vadtec thexyz: any reason it wasnt merged? 18:52 thexyz Vadtec: let's see 18:52 thexyz (I asked in -dev) 18:53 markveidemanis I stayed up all night trying to remember if i had amnesia or insomnia 18:53 markveidemanis :D 18:54 markveidemanis that reminds me... 18:54 markveidemanis need to buy burgers 18:54 rubenwardy bye guys 18:55 markveidemanis OldCoder 18:56 markveidemanis canno? 18:56 markveidemanis no? 18:57 markveidemanis who will build with me 18:57 jordach should i eat sfan5 18:57 MinetestBot jordach: You decide 18:58 markveidemanis for me? 18:58 markveidemanis work for me? 18:58 markveidemanis i say you eat him 18:58 jordach nah, got my own map to be doing 18:58 sfan5 jordach: no, but you should look ingame 19:03 Vadtec this active_block_range stuff is really annoying...for the moment its gonna make me rethink how i build my city 19:12 jfu lol, dont mine mese with a full inventory 19:12 jfu tip of the day 19:12 PilzAdam jfu, in latest dev it wont be lost 19:12 PilzAdam it will simply drop 19:12 jfu yeah, thing was. it was above lav 19:12 jfu lava 19:13 PilzAdam in default game, lava doesnt destroy items, and they dont disappear after some time 19:13 PilzAdam so you have time to get it back 19:13 jfu ah... ok 19:13 * jordach wonders if anything has happened 19:13 * jordach then reads scrollback 19:14 Vadtec jordach: ok...where does minetest.conf need to go? in games/ ? 19:14 jordach Vadtec, nope. 19:15 jordach its .minetest 19:15 Vadtec keep in mind, this is a server running on ubuntu compared to a normal client 19:15 jordach dunno where it sits as im a cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 19:15 Vadtec jordach: yeah, mine is runinplace too 19:16 Vadtec jordach: so since its run in place, should it go in the main minetest folder? 19:17 jordach Vadtec, i dont often open the .conf 19:17 Vadtec jordach: nor would i, cept i want to tweak active_block_range and its not persisting across restarts 19:18 jordach Vadtec, shutdown the server first 19:18 jordach the server on exit updates the .conf 19:18 Vadtec jordach: i dont even *have* a file named minetest.conf, anywhere in the dir, or even ~/.minetest 19:19 Vadtec vadtec@vadtec:~$ find . ! -type d -name "minetest.conf" -print | wc -l 19:19 Vadtec 0 19:19 jordach no clue 19:20 Vadtec so doing a /set in game doesnt cause it to write out the config file? 19:20 jin_xi hm, i think if you do run in place builds the conf file is in the minetest root directory 19:21 Vadtec jin_xi: obviously something is diff then, because as the paste i just did shows, there are NO files named minetest.conf anywhere in my home dir, period 19:23 * Vadtec goes code diving 19:25 jordach !up 81.155.108.41:30000 19:25 MinetestBot jordach: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' 19:25 jordach !up 81.155.108.41 30000 19:25 MinetestBot 81.155.108.41:30000 is up (0.200ms) 19:25 jordach my map server is online 19:32 thexyz Vadtec: it should be in the same directory as minetest.conf.example 19:32 thexyz same directory as minetest sources 19:32 thexyz (or 1 level up) 19:33 Vadtec thexyz: yeah, thats what the code is showing too 19:33 Vadtec im just tweaking a copy of the example file 19:33 Vadtec then gonna restart 19:37 jordach sfan5, server off for a few 19:37 sfan5 ok 19:37 jordach namely cpu cooling 19:38 jordach sfan5, the map now weighs 5.6mb 19:38 sfan5 yu no use ./minetestserver 19:41 kaeza Vadtec, what's the '!' for? 19:41 kaeza 'not'? 19:41 jordach sfan5, still wastes cpu 19:42 jordach and shes returned to 48'C 19:42 Oblivion1500 hello everyone 19:42 MinetestBot hi Oblivion1500 19:42 Oblivion1500 shut up bot 19:42 kaeza Vadtec, try find . -type f -name "minetest.conf" -print | wc -l 19:42 kaeza hi Oblivion1500 19:42 * jordach is considering 6ghz overclock with liquid nitrogen cooling 19:42 jordach only P4's can do this 19:42 Vadtec kaeza: 19:42 Vadtec [13:19:35] vadtec@vadtec:~$ find . ! -type d -name "minetest.conf" -print | wc -l 19:42 Vadtec [13:19:35] 0 19:42 Vadtec been there, done that 19:43 Vadtec ive been using *nix since the late 90s, im pretty well versed 19:43 jordach sfan5, up 19:43 kaeza hmm 19:43 sfan5 jordach: i'll come in 3 mins 19:44 jordach alrighty 19:44 Vadtec kaeza: the real question is why isnt it writing the config file upon exit 19:44 kaeza Vadtec, core dumped? 19:44 kaeza error before writing the config? 19:44 * jordach remembers the days when jordach actually ran a server 19:45 Vadtec kaeza: dont see any errors in the logs during shutdown 19:45 kaeza actually, before *opening* it 19:45 kaeza ha 19:45 kaeza ah 19:45 kaeza * 19:46 * NekoGloop|Laptop puts kittens on all the heads 19:48 kaeza hey Neko :3 19:48 kaeza how's it going? 19:49 thexyz Vadtec: why should it? 19:50 Vadtec thexyz: because i did a /set during run time and the change should be saved? 19:50 thexyz it cannot reload it while running so that'd be quite useless 19:50 Vadtec thexyz: if its not gonna save suring shutdown, there needs to be a config save command 19:51 NekoGloop|Laptop kaeza: Well I have a laptop that's superior to my desktop. 19:51 NekoGloop|Laptop So needless to say it's pretty damn good. 19:51 thexyz it should save it during shutdown 19:51 Vadtec thexyz: well, its not 19:52 Vadtec ive used /shutdown and killall on the server 19:52 Vadtec and it hasnt saved the conf file once 19:52 * jordach pokes VanessaE 19:52 kaeza NekoGloop|Laptop, congrats :) now you can get back to developing games for GM :) 19:53 NekoGloop|Laptop Sure, as soon as I buy studio. 19:53 jordach GM? 19:53 NekoGloop|Laptop Game Maker. 19:53 jordach OH 19:53 jordach y u no use stencyl 19:53 kaeza hm? 19:53 NekoGloop|Laptop because stencyl is bad. 19:54 NekoGloop|Laptop You, most definitely, should feel bad. 19:54 kaeza I wonder if there's a good free alternative to GM... 19:54 kaeza I tried the game editor but it was really crappy 19:55 NekoGloop|Laptop It's called Notepad++ 19:55 NekoGloop|Laptop :-) 19:55 NekoGloop|Laptop Speaking of which, I should install that. 19:55 Vadtec notepad++ FTW 19:55 kaeza developing a base engine that can be used by most game genres is really hard :) 19:56 kaeza or at least time consuming :) 19:56 Vadtec kaeza: that would simply entail a high level of abstraction 19:56 Vadtec as you said, loads of time 19:57 thexyz there's vim 19:57 thexyz there's emacs 19:57 thexyz but people still use np++ 19:57 thexyz what the heck? 19:57 kaeza thexyz, not everyone care to remember 213459852134 keyboard commands? 19:57 NekoGloop|Laptop Because GUI? 19:57 kaeza :) 19:57 thexyz there's not too much to remember 19:58 Vadtec not to mention plugins that even emacs doesnt have 19:58 thexyz >not everyone care to remember 213459852134 words, why should we study english? 19:58 NekoGloop|Laptop Because we actually *use* that. 19:58 thexyz Vadtec: like..? 19:58 thexyz then try to use vim 19:59 * VanessaE is back 19:59 kaeza thexyz, sometimes it's easier to use a menu item than remember what's the command for "do this and that" 19:59 kaeza wb V 19:59 Vadtec thexyz: like a plugin for integration with my custom development environment that just doesnt work in emacs or even vim 20:00 kaeza VanessaE, have you seen the pull request? 20:00 VanessaE not yet, I just got back from the doctor's office. 20:00 VanessaE (Abe got a good report :) ) 20:00 kaeza good :) 20:01 kaeza oh and sorry if the code is... a bit (a lot) messy 20:02 kaeza don't worry. It will only os.remove() your entire homedir if you put a lava source in the locked refrigerator 20:02 kaeza ;) 20:02 VanessaE merged. 20:03 VanessaE heh 20:03 kaeza thanks :) 20:03 VanessaE no, thank *you* 20:04 kaeza to get a locked version, craft the original plus a steel ingot 20:04 Vadtec mornin VanessaE 20:04 kaeza you're welcome :) 20:04 VanessaE I'm glad folks like my stuff enough to help hide my horrible code among good commits ;-) 20:04 kaeza HAH good commit? have you looked at the code? 20:05 kaeza it's a real mess :P 20:05 kaeza but yeah :) now I'm gonna try and make some of the items in jordach's list :) 20:06 VanessaE heh 20:07 * jordach pokes VanessaE 20:07 jordach come to meh map 20:07 VanessaE no :) 20:07 VanessaE too busy 20:08 VanessaE stuffing my face, watching videos :) 20:08 jordach :( 20:08 NekoGloop|Laptop Stuffing your face, eh? Sounds like fun, lemme join in. 20:09 VanessaE no 20:09 * VanessaE hogs her homemade soup 20:09 VanessaE MINE! 20:10 * NekoGloop|Laptop throws a bagel at VanessaE 20:10 jordach *NekoGloop|Laptop claws at VanessaE 20:13 khonkhortisan Through an interesting turn of events, the quick combo ends in bagel claws, disabling further claw attacks. 20:14 jordach lol 20:14 jordach VanessaE, its 3pm, you shall not be eating 20:15 jordach you're worse than me when i have the munchies 20:16 VanessaE why not? it's only my second meal of the day (first, around 11am) 20:16 VanessaE I have to eat frequently - it's an ironic requirement of that surgery I gad,. 20:16 VanessaE had* 20:16 jordach 'Murica, where food is often eaten 20:17 * jordach considers throwing $10 at VanessaE to grab a Subway 20:17 VanessaE jordach: look at the 45 kg I've lost so far and tell me that again ;-) 20:17 jordach :trollface: 20:18 NekoGloop|Laptop Subway sounds good right now ;o; 20:18 jordach NekoGloop|Laptop, i have to go to the nearest city for mine 20:19 jordach (but a baguette place nearby makes awesome bacon and sausage baguettes with extra t. sauce) 20:19 jordach VanessaE, that weight lost was half a Jordach 20:19 VanessaE yup 20:19 VanessaE and there's more to go yet 20:19 VanessaE I have another ~90 kg to lose 20:20 Jordach you're losing 1,1/2 Jordachs 20:20 Jordach (one and a half) 20:20 VanessaE so yeah, I'm a fatass :) 20:20 NekoGloop|Laptop Or Jordach is a fucking beanpole ;) 20:20 VanessaE both I guess 20:20 Jordach VanessaE, im not even diabetic from the amount of sugar and food i eat. 20:20 Jordach (or low blood pressure.) 20:20 Jordach s/low/high 20:20 VanessaE Jordach: diabetes is an autoimmune diease apparently. 20:21 VanessaE disease* 20:21 khonkhortisan that's 1½ to you. 20:21 * Jordach stretches 20:21 Jordach there, daily excersise done. 20:21 PilzAdam bye 20:21 VanessaE khonkhortisan: such vulgarities 20:21 Jordach 20:21 Jordach VanessaE, whats 2 1/8 + 6 1/3 = 20:22 khonkhortisan Sometimes I correct spelling by saying "that's ... to you." 20:22 * NekoGloop|Laptop should be approx. 350 lbs 20:22 Jordach (2 one eighths, add 6 one thirds) 20:22 VanessaE 8 1/2 20:22 Jordach gd hd 20:22 Jordach gdgd 20:23 Jordach good good 20:23 Jordach (fuck you auto replace.) 20:23 VanessaE lol 20:23 Jordach anyways, visit me dammit :P 20:24 VanessaE addr:port? 20:24 xming ASL? :p 20:24 VanessaE NO! 20:25 VanessaE notice how he asks me like 2-3 times and when I finally decide to go on, he doesn't respond :) 20:25 Jordach !up 81.155.108.41 30000 20:25 xming well you were being rude by asking port :p 20:25 MinetestBot 81.155.108.41:30000 seems to be down 20:25 VanessaE lol 20:26 VanessaE well fuck that then 20:26 Jordach its up 20:26 VanessaE :) 20:26 Jordach !up 81.155.108.41 30000 20:26 MinetestBot 81.155.108.41:30000 is up (0.203ms) 20:26 Jordach see, MinetestBot sucks 20:26 Jordach ...at times.. 20:26 VanessaE connecting 20:26 xming !down 81.155.108.41 30000 20:26 VanessaE speedy media download. 20:26 VanessaE and...crash 20:27 Jordach VanessaE, this server requires you to not use a texture pack 20:27 Jordach (yes, it only looks right without it) 20:27 VanessaE GEVALT!!! 20:27 VanessaE MY EYES! THE FILTERS, THEY DO NOTHING!!!! 20:27 VanessaE ;) 20:28 artur99 Hi 20:28 MinetestBot hi artur99 20:28 * VanessaE stands overlooking a precipice of not-loading blocks 20:28 Oblivion1500 anyone want to check out my new website? 20:28 sfan5 Jordach: its not MinetestBot who sucky, its my internet 20:28 sfan5 *sucks 20:28 Jordach lol 20:28 artur99 Show me the link 20:29 Oblivion1500 1337reviews.com 20:29 Oblivion1500 its new so there is nothing much on it now.. just started it yesterday 20:29 Oblivion1500 but it will grow pretty fast 20:29 VanessaE LOAD DAMN YOU! 20:29 VanessaE :) 20:29 VanessaE Jordach: your emergethread is jammed. 20:30 Jordach ...lol 20:30 Jordach fuck worldedit 20:30 Jordach (not really.) 20:30 VanessaE heh 20:30 Jordach !up 81.155.108.41 30000 20:30 MinetestBot 81.155.108.41:30000 is up (0.555ms) 20:30 Jordach should have de-jammed 20:30 VanessaE there it goes. 20:30 VanessaE well at least it isn't only me having that issue 20:31 Jordach VanessaE, its seemingly Linux specific 20:31 VanessaE dunno 20:31 VanessaE this map is that conversion thing you were working on? 20:31 Jordach it never happens on windows systems 20:31 Jordach yes 20:31 Jordach been at it since friday with breaks 20:31 artur99 Oblivion1500, wow, the design is verry verry nice 20:32 Jordach i finish a town within a day 20:32 Oblivion1500 thanks! 20:32 VanessaE not bad though 20:32 Jordach detail is the last step 20:34 Jordach VanessaE, watch me build some trees 20:34 VanessaE with TNT? 20:35 artur99 Oblivion, php? 20:35 Vadtec hrm, tweaking the active block stuff causes all sorts of errors, like randomyl jumping back 100m when running 20:35 VanessaE cheater!!! 20:35 VanessaE worldedit is cheating :) 20:36 Vadtec worldedit is for people who want to get shit built quickly 20:36 artur99 Oblivion1500, is your site made using php? 20:37 VanessaE I was kidding 20:38 VanessaE Jordach: that said, you're a lot quicker 20:38 VanessaE than I am 20:39 Jordach VanessaE, i have to make large areas of land at a time, hand placing is impossible 20:39 VanessaE right 20:39 VanessaE you should work on writing a map importer to automate this 20:40 artur99 Oblivion1500, the search is using php? 20:40 ShadowNinja does anyone remember the command that only prints the last few lines of it's input? 20:40 jin_xi tail? 20:40 ShadowNinja yes, that 20:41 Vadtec ShadowNinja: also: tail -n ## file.name 20:41 Vadtec where ## is a number 20:41 Vadtec eg: tail -n 50 debug.txt 20:42 Vadtec shows more lines than the default 20:42 artur99 i can add colors to the text using androirc 20:42 artur99 look 20:43 artur99 and this 20:43 Vadtec artur99: we wont see them 20:43 sfan5 helloguys! 20:43 artur99 Hi 20:43 MinetestBot hi artur99 20:43 Vadtec artur99: androirc doesnt transmit them in a way that most clients can understand 20:43 sfan5 Vadtec: thats not the issue 20:43 sfan5 Vadtec, artur99: #minetest has the mode +c set, that means only ops can use irc colors 20:44 ShadowNinja hmm, using it with watch causes the output to disappear the second time 20:44 Vadtec sfan5: even beyond mode +c, androirc's color handling is broken in general 20:44 Vadtec so mode +c doesnt really matter in either case 20:44 artur99 K 20:45 Jordach you should work on writing a map importer to automate this 20:45 Jordach FUCK NO. 20:45 VanessaE heh 20:45 Jordach have you seen the MC map importer? 20:45 VanessaE nope 20:45 Jordach it makes a .we save 20:45 Jordach and you try loading something large at once 20:45 sfan5 Jordach: do you mean mine? 20:46 Jordach yes 20:46 sfan5 VanessaE: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=70882#p70882 20:46 VanessaE I have 20:46 sfan5 ..ok 20:46 VanessaE all that shit I copied from the old map to the new one was a bitch 20:46 VanessaE Jordach: ^^ 20:47 VanessaE sfan5: nice! 20:47 ShadowNinja do you know how to do something like this, I think chatlog is just being piped into watch: watch tail < ~/minetest/server/worlds/a/chatlog 20:48 Vadtec ShadowNinja: watch -n 1 'tail ~/minetest/server/worlds/a/chatlog' 20:48 sfan5 john_minetest: a healthkit \o/ 20:48 * sfan5 uses the healthkit 20:48 ShadowNinja thanks 20:48 * sfan5 has now 20 1/2 hearts 20:49 * john_minetest takes healthkit 20:49 * john_minetest can't use healthkit. Already full health. 20:49 Jordach john_minetest, my question is, how can you stop strange spikes appearing when sculpting? 20:50 * VanessaE hands john_minetest a stimpac. 20:50 VanessaE if a medikit won't work ;) 20:50 * john_minetest takes a RadX 20:50 sfan5 !up 81.155.108.41 30000 20:50 MinetestBot 81.155.108.41:30000 seems to be down 20:50 sfan5 :( 20:50 MinetestBot john_minetest: Invalid Address 20:51 VanessaE oh up yours, bot. 20:51 VanessaE :) 20:51 sfan5 !up 81.155.108.41 30000 20:51 VanessaE or should that be !up yours? ;) 20:51 MinetestBot 81.155.108.41:30000 seems to be down 20:51 sfan5 !up 127.0.0.1 20:51 MinetestBot 127.0.0.1:30000 is up (0.098ms) 20:51 sfan5 ^ VanessaE ;) 20:52 VanessaE heh 20:52 jin_xi oh noes 20:53 * Jordach can feel the CPU / GPU heat on the tower case 20:54 ShadowNinja is this correct for a cron that runs every hour? * */1 * * * command 20:55 Vadtec ShadowNinja: yes 20:55 Jordach should i develop with VIM or Emacs? 20:55 Vadtec ShadowNinja: but, to make it better 20:56 Vadtec ShadowNinja: use: 0 */1 * * * 20:56 Vadtec otherwise it will run every minute of every hour 20:56 VanessaE Jordach: emacs, because there's a VI plugin for it now :) 20:56 ShadowNinja oh right I already had that 20:57 VanessaE gedit is good, it's what I use, 20:57 VanessaE but it has a couple of really REALLY irritating bugs 20:57 VanessaE namely any left click automatically un-selects whatever you've highlighted (and removes it from the clipboard), and when you paste it doesn't move the cursor to end of the pasted location 20:57 Vadtec a couple? id rather use nano inside a terminal 21:00 Jordach http://xkcd.com/378/ 21:00 Jordach john_minetest, use the real one 21:02 RylandAlmanza_ Jordach: Which do you know better? 21:02 Jordach huh? 21:02 RylandAlmanza_ emacs or vim 21:03 Jordach just started with emacs 21:03 * Jordach just likes teasing the vimmers 21:03 VanessaE hey grog 21:03 thefamilygrog66 howdy 21:04 thefamilygrog66 I've had a couple of snags/glitches with the server... 21:04 * Jordach checks if gimp didnt upgrade to 2.8 21:04 Jordach oh god no. 21:04 Jordach 2.6.12 21:04 Jordach :troll: 21:05 VanessaE there, see what trolling gets ya? :) 21:08 thefamilygrog66 does anyone know how to prevent mobs from spawning inside a player? 21:08 thefamilygrog66 it's the weirdest thing 21:09 VanessaE no clue at all :-/ 21:09 thefamilygrog66 I'm lookin at the api.lua file for it, and they only be spawning when their neighbours are air 21:09 thefamilygrog66 but I keep ending up with monsters in me 21:09 VanessaE I wonder if you're setting that attach bug? 21:10 VanessaE you still using stable? 21:10 sfan5 i was able to record 5:30 min footage in minetest with jpeg compression and the resulting file is "only" 530 mb 21:10 thefamilygrog66 yes 21:10 VanessaE that's why 21:10 VanessaE that bug was fixed in git 21:10 thefamilygrog66 d'oh 21:10 thefamilygrog66 I guess I'll turn 'em off for now 21:10 VanessaE naw, just upgrade your copy of MT :) 21:11 VanessaE it's easy to build from git, and there are win32 builds available too 21:11 thefamilygrog66 it's running on a ubuntu vm 21:11 VanessaE oh ok 21:11 VanessaE well building for Ubuntu is quite easy 21:11 thefamilygrog66 I can do it though 21:12 thefamilygrog66 yeah I've done it on my desktop a bunch of time 21:12 thefamilygrog66 *times 21:12 thefamilygrog66 I guess that's what I'll do then 21:13 thefamilygrog66 the other bug was that I modified the sethome mod slightly to add a /spawn function, and suddenly nobody could read anyone else's shout 21:13 Vadtec each map block is 16x16x16 right? 21:13 VanessaE Vadtec: and are generated in 5x5x5 chunks 21:13 VanessaE (so, yes ;) ) 21:13 Vadtec so active_block_range=2 is 32x32x32 21:13 VanessaE yup 21:14 VanessaE I think so 21:14 sfan5 ugh! i'm roughly able to record 1000 frames with 1366x768 and jpeg compression 21:14 Vadtec kk, since tweaking that setting resulted in some nasty annoyances 21:14 VanessaE sfan5: encode to MPEG2. Any recent machine can do that in realtime 21:15 VanessaE Vadtec: yeah, ABMs will log a lot more, mostly, if you turn it up too high 21:15 sfan5 VanessaE: minemovie currently only supports saving images and only the types irrlicht supports (png,jpg,tga,bmp) 21:15 VanessaE sfan5: ohh. damn. 21:16 sfan5 VanessaE: but it is perfectly smooth at constant 42 fps 21:16 sfan5 (unfortanely without audio) 21:16 Vadtec VanessaE: i set it to 5 and it was causing all sorts of issues, which i assume is related to the fact its running on a VPS 21:16 VanessaE Vadtec: hard to say 21:17 VanessaE last time I tried it, it just lagged the local server (singleplayer) too badly to be useful 21:17 VanessaE (I had it set to around 5 also) 21:17 sfan5 VanessaE: i would give you the resulting .mov (converted by monte moviemaker) but i'm not up to uploading 88 mb 21:17 Vadtec VanessaE: it probably is, there are some serious I/O issues ive noticed with running on a VPS 21:18 Vadtec if i were to run it on win, im sure it would be better, since there isnt an abstraction layer to get past 21:18 sfan5 good night 21:18 MinetestBot good night sfan5 21:18 sfan5 MinetestBot: thanks 21:20 Akerok What dependants does the technic mod need to make dyes? 21:20 VanessaE flowers I think 21:20 VanessaE (plantlife mod) 21:21 MiJyn does anyone know who edited my sig? 21:21 MiJyn sorry, but can I know why? 21:21 MiJyn (to whoever edited it) 21:22 Akerok I have the flowers mod. It says it needs "default" as a dependency. 21:22 VanessaE Akerok: that's part of minetest_game 21:22 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commits/master 21:22 VanessaE er, click on the "files" tab. 21:23 kaeza https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game 21:23 VanessaE kaeza: no. 21:23 VanessaE it's been moved. 21:23 VanessaE update your busted-ass bookmarks ;-=) 21:23 VanessaE ;-) 21:23 kaeza O.o 21:23 MinetestBot kaeza: What are you wondering about? 21:23 VanessaE it's all at github.com/minetest now. 21:24 kaeza man, I disconnect for a few days and all my world is changed... 21:25 MiJyn hahah yeah 21:25 VanessaE kaeza: yep 21:26 VanessaE kaeza: you're fucked ;) 21:26 kaeza let me guess, minetest has support for 5D models, and stereoscopic rendering (or whatever that is called)? :) 21:27 VanessaE kaeza: not quite, but there IS an anaglyph branch :) 21:27 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commits/anaglyph_rebase1 21:27 kaeza :O 21:28 Vadtec is there a way to see/determine the map block boundaries? 21:28 kaeza that is awesome 21:29 VanessaE Vadtec: yeah, make your server lag really bad ;) 21:29 VanessaE you'll see 'em then for sure! :) 21:29 Vadtec VanessaE: >.> 21:30 kaeza Vadtec, i think a simple pos.x % 16 will do 21:30 kaeza ('%' meaning "modulo" or remainder) 21:30 kaeza ah shit 21:31 kaeza nvm 21:31 markveidemanis kaeza 21:31 markveidemanis it's 'Later' now 21:31 markveidemanis go on server :D 21:31 kaeza ...so? 21:31 VanessaE actually you want math.floor(pos.nnn/16) 21:31 VanessaE oops 21:31 kaeza yup 21:31 ShadowNinja I know the protection mod on 0gb's server has a showarea command 21:31 VanessaE actually you want: math.floor((pos.nnn+0.5)/16)*16 21:31 VanessaE properly rounded and scaled to map coords :) 21:31 kaeza that's the one :) 21:32 kaeza I suck at math :/ 21:32 markveidemanis 2+2 21:32 NekoGloop|Laptop OH MAI GOD. 21:32 markveidemanis ...8? 21:32 NekoGloop|Laptop WIN8 DOESN'T HAVE SOLITARE. 21:32 NekoGloop|Laptop WHAT IS THIS SHIT. 21:32 kaeza markveidemanis, 2+2*2? 21:32 markveidemanis LOL 21:32 NekoGloop|Laptop Also no calculator. 21:32 VanessaE oh noes! 21:32 markveidemanis yep 21:32 VanessaE the world is gonna blow up! 21:32 markveidemanis not again... 21:32 kaeza Aisleriot FTW!! 21:33 VanessaE NekoGloop|Laptop: Oh shit! you're kidding me! 21:33 markveidemanis theres already been 5 ends of the world, im sick of it! 21:33 kaeza markveidemanis, 2+2*2? 21:33 markveidemanis 8 21:33 VanessaE markveidemanis: there are still around 10 more ends scheduled 21:33 kaeza markveidemanis, wrong 21:33 kaeza it's 6 21:33 markveidemanis BIDMAS? 21:33 Vadtec VanessaE: is there a way to print that in game? 21:34 markveidemanis yop 21:34 VanessaE Vadtec: print() ;-) 21:34 VanessaE print(math.floor((pos.nnn+0.5)/16)*16) 21:34 markveidemanis (2+2)*2 21:34 Vadtec do i just type that into the chat dialog? 21:34 VanessaE oh...um 21:34 NekoGloop|Laptop wut? 21:34 kaeza ... 21:34 ShadowNinja look at the code for the showarea command and copy it 21:35 VanessaE Vadtec: you'll have to pull out the old calculator :-) 21:35 markveidemanis Come On My Server Please So We Can Survive And Build 21:36 markveidemanis COMSPSWCSAB 21:36 VanessaE forget his server, mine's better :) 21:36 markveidemanis i have a name 21:36 markveidemanis COMSPSWCSAB 21:36 VanessaE fuck survival - creativity is where it's at :) 21:36 kaeza how about no? 21:36 NekoGloop|Laptop Forget survival in minetest; minetest only has support for creative. 21:36 Vadtec creative is boring 21:36 markveidemanis yay 21:36 markveidemanis well said 21:37 kaeza Vadtec, minetest+MOBF+survival_modpack = WIN! 21:37 kaeza (shameless plug) 21:41 Vadtec time to build some technic stuff and get a mining laser...picks are to slow and i try not to use worldedit because my kids cant use worldedit 21:41 markveidemanis ? 21:41 VanessaE Vadtec: get maptools and use an admin pick 21:41 VanessaE :) 21:42 VanessaE you'll never go back to those pathetic mese picks ;) 21:44 NekoGloop|Laptop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrhYhI3L32c 21:51 Vadtec VanessaE: i think id rather not keep adding mods lol 21:52 Deivan How I get the user position when he punch something? 21:52 Akerok I'm having the weirdest issue I have ever seen. I cannot launch my server after downloading the "minetest_game-master' mod. I even changed the name of that folder to "minetest_game", and removed the privious default directory. When I try to launch my server, it fails. I checked the debug.txt file, and it says it failed to load the ipban.txt file in my world. Does anyone have any idea what is going on? 21:53 markveidemanis umm...noi 21:53 markveidemanis no 21:53 Deivan Maybe you have a corrupted file... 21:54 markveidemanis /opt/minetest044/share/minetest/worlds/marktwain/schems/ 21:54 markveidemanis whoops 21:54 VanessaE Akerok: did you put it in games? 21:54 markveidemanis this has nothing to do with OC's VPS.. 21:54 Akerok Here is a pastebin of the debug.txt: http://pastebin.com/WGjai4K4 21:54 VanessaE (minetestfolder)/games/minetest_game 21:54 Akerok Yes. 21:56 Deivan You have many ready erros and write erros in this log... 21:56 Vadtec Akerok: check folder/files perms maybe 21:58 Deivan Is a good start. 22:00 Akerok What do you mean by "folder/files perms? 22:00 OldCoder Hi 22:00 MinetestBot hi OldCoder 22:00 Vadtec Akerok: are you running mt on *nix or win? 22:00 Akerok Ubuntu 22:00 Akerok So, Linux. 22:01 Akerok 12.10 64-bit to be exact. 22:01 Vadtec you need to make sure the folder and file perms give you the ability to read/write the entire dir for mt 22:01 Vadtec aka, chmod u+rw /your/mt/folder 22:03 Akerok I used sudo to make all the changes. 22:03 Akerok In terminal. 22:04 Vadtec yup 22:04 Vadtec you might also need to do: chown -R user:user . 22:04 Vadtec in the folder for mt 22:04 Vadtec replacing user with your user name 22:07 VanessaE zzz 22:08 markveidemanis the block selection box... 22:08 markveidemanis its retarded 22:08 markveidemanis flashes, disappears 22:09 Deivan Then... Someone know a method to get the 'puncher' location? I am making changes in the teleport mod to make the teleport working, well... Better, with lag in the server. Someone know how? 22:09 Vadtec Deivan: check worldedit, specifically worldedit_commands 22:09 Vadtec it uses punching to set locations 22:09 Vadtec might give you a clue 22:09 Deivan Roger, Roger. 22:09 kaeza Deivan, puncher:getpos() ? 22:10 Deivan Well... 22:10 Deivan I don't remember. 22:10 Deivan A new test. :D 22:10 Deivan Thanks. 22:11 Vadtec anyone who uses technic: how do i get power out of a water mill? 22:11 Deivan I have now 17 dies testing my stone factory. :D 22:11 Deivan Huhahaha. 22:11 kaeza Vadtec, explain 22:12 Vadtec kaeza: i have a water mill with a lv copper cable next to it, but im getting no power to my grinder 22:12 kaeza Vadtec, every "circuit" must have a battery box to work 22:12 Vadtec oh, like industrial craft for mc 22:12 kaeza the battery box is the one responsible for distributing power 22:12 Vadtec its gotta store it before it can use it 22:13 kaeza exactly :) 22:13 Deivan No... the getpos crached the server... :D 22:13 Deivan attempt to call method 'get_pos' (a nil value) 22:13 Deivan Ops... 22:13 kaeza Deivan, nonono 22:13 Vadtec Deivan: check out worldedit like i suggested, i bet it will give you the right stuff, look for function //p set 22:13 Deivan A wrong _ 22:13 kaeza getpos() 22:14 kaeza without the '_' 22:14 Deivan New try... 22:15 Vadtec kaeza: ok...i have the battery box in place, but the lv cable doesnt seem to be "attaching" to either the water mill or batt box 22:15 Vadtec do i need shielded cable? 22:15 Deivan Is working now, thanks. 22:15 kaeza Vadtec, it does not matter if it connects visually 22:16 kaeza wait 22:16 Vadtec kaeza: well, im getting no power into my batt box 22:16 Deivan How I round values... 22:16 kaeza did you say you are connecting from the sides? 22:16 Deivan The getpos have many digits... 22:16 kaeza Deivan, math.floor(x) 22:16 Vadtec kaeza: yes, from the sides 22:16 ShadowNinja math.floor(val+0.5) 22:16 Deivan Thanks. 22:16 kaeza Vadtec, no, connect the bottoms 22:17 Vadtec well bummer 22:17 Vadtec now i gotta rewire 22:19 Vadtec kaeza: ok, got the batt box charging 22:19 kaeza good :) 22:19 Vadtec kaeza: does it output on the sides as well? or do i need to hook up the other machines on the bottom as well? 22:19 kaeza now connect all the other devices to this circuit 22:20 kaeza just connect the wires to the bottom of all machines 22:20 Vadtec so i cant connect a grinder directly to a water mill, i *must* have the batt box 22:20 kaeza yup 22:20 Deivan Ok, now the teleport mod is full operational when I have lag here. :D 22:20 Deivan Thanks guys, 22:21 kaeza also, please try not to make round circuits 22:21 Vadtec kaeza: oh? whys that? 22:21 kaeza I mean, try to connect so there's only one way from a batt box to any given machine 22:21 VanessaE because electrons travel too fast around round circuits? ;) 22:22 VanessaE bbl 22:22 Vadtec VanessaE: but im trying to make the LHC 22:22 kaeza hehe 22:22 Vadtec i wanna suck my world up with a black hole it might create 22:22 Vadtec kaeza: will making a loop in a circuit cause a problem? 22:22 kaeza yup 22:23 kaeza not a real problem 22:23 kaeza it's just laggy :) 22:23 Vadtec sounds like it needs some graph logic to only pull from the shortest hop path 22:23 kaeza another thing: don't connect more than three battery boxes to any given circuit 22:23 kaeza yup 22:24 Vadtec what will more than 3 batt boxes do? 22:24 kaeza laaaaaaag 22:24 kaeza :) 22:25 kaeza for example, while electric furnaces should take a sec to cook items, they take about 4 secs with more than 3 batt boxes and/or a looped circuit 22:26 Vadtec so its just a logic issue more than a bug or such 22:26 kaeza maybe, but you should discuss that with RBA 22:27 kaeza I have no idea how technic actually works :) 22:28 Vadtec seems to me it just needs some graphs to sort out the power gen/dist/use map 22:28 kaeza I guess the logic follows wires from an "emitter" until a "receiver" is found 22:28 ShadowNinja I had to remove that from my server, it took my cpu from 2 to 100% if you went near a power system 22:29 ShadowNinja It could probably be done without the lag 22:30 kaeza IDK if it already does that, but the lag could be (mostly) eliminated by computing whether or not a device is connected at wire placing time 22:34 Vadtec kaeza: so these batt boxes wont explode if they are "over charged" will they? 22:34 kaeza lol nope 22:34 kaeza you'll just waste energy :) 22:34 Vadtec good...at one point, IC2 for mc would cause batt boxes to explode if they were over charged 22:35 Vadtec they made a big boom 22:35 Vadtec and an even bigger hole 22:35 Vadtec considering this is a water mill, wasted energy really isnt an issue 22:35 kaeza not these ones :) you'll just lose valuable energy from, for example, solar panels 22:36 Deivan About the tech, if I have more than one geothermal generator I have more power or is the same? 22:36 Vadtec kaeza: well, water mills are meant to run all the time, so its gonna waste energy regardless 22:36 kaeza the more generators you connect to a circuit, the faster the batt boxes get charged 22:37 Vadtec unless im trying to run 100 furnaces 22:37 Deivan Thanks. 22:37 Deivan :D 22:37 Vadtec kaeza: can you hook more than one water mill to a circuit? 22:37 kaeza although I still couldn't make the geo generators work :( 22:37 kaeza Vadtec, yeah 22:37 Vadtec cool 22:38 kaeza I have a 3x3x3=27 mills in my basement :) 22:38 Vadtec ...how the heck do i remove a grinder? 22:38 Vadtec oh wait...dont i need a special node removal tool?... 22:38 kaeza no 22:38 kaeza wait 22:38 kaeza is the grinder empty? 22:39 kaeza you cannot remove non-empty stuff! 22:39 Vadtec oh 22:39 Vadtec thats it 22:39 Vadtec druka durka 22:40 kaeza hmm... I'm currently trying to make a mod to allow "carrying" full chests with you 22:40 kaeza maybe this can be adapted for furnaces, etc... 22:41 Vadtec is there a list somewhere of stuff that can actually be ground in a grinder? 22:41 Vadtec looking on the technic page, dont see a list 22:41 kaeza all the mineral lumps (coal, iron, etc) 22:42 kaeza plus stone, cobble, and a few others 22:42 Vadtec i just ground cobble->gravel->dirt lol 22:43 Vadtec maybe ill make a macerator that can grind anything into other useful items 22:44 kaeza unless im trying to run 100 furnaces -- My 27 mills + 3 batt boxes allow me to operate 16 grinders, 16 furnaces, and a tool workshop for about 5 mins 22:44 Vadtec how long does it take to charge though? 22:45 kaeza about 20 secs 22:45 Vadtec heh, nice 22:45 Vadtec does technic not have a lamp object? 22:45 kaeza nope 22:45 kaeza for that matter, use mesecons 22:45 Vadtec yeah 22:45 kaeza or VanessaE's homedecor 22:45 Vadtec would be nice if technic had a lamp though 22:46 kaeza (now with locked stuff; shameless plug again :) ) 22:46 kaeza RBA says there's way too many lamps in other mods 22:48 kaeza hmm... haven't tested if you can transport items from the Grinder to the furnace 22:48 Vadtec but having to use so many other mods might making a sane layout for a workshop impossible, assuming you would have to run multiple sets of wires and power sources 22:48 jin_xi portable chest is a good idea 22:49 kaeza jin_xi, link? 22:49 Vadtec and mesecons doesnt have batteries, so you can store the solar energy it generates 22:49 Vadtec you cant* 22:49 jin_xi you said you're trying, no? 22:50 kaeza yup 22:50 jin_xi serialize node meta and put into itemstring i guess? 22:51 kaeza what I mean is when you remodel your house, you have to remove all the stuff, dig the chest, place the chest in the new location, and refill 22:51 kaeza it would be nice if you could "carry" the chest to the new location 22:51 jin_xi i know. dig and place full chests 22:51 kaeza I have 30 chests in my basement :( 22:52 kaeza last expansion took me half an hour just to move the chests 22:52 kaeza an hour and a half* 22:52 Vadtec kaeza: maybe it would be worth someones time (possibly mine) to develop a mod that standardizes power transportation, that way mods could more easily inter-op 22:53 kaeza hmm 22:53 kaeza technic has an API for that 22:53 kaeza IIRC 22:54 Vadtec im thinking something more generic than that 22:54 kaeza at least to register generators and other stuff, so it all uses the same wiring 23:00 Vadtec kaeza: so whats the major diff between the electric furnace and its MV counterparts? MV is used for more "advanced" stuff? 23:00 kaeza apart from the obvious change in wires, I think it cooks even faster 23:01 Vadtec hmmm 23:01 kaeza wait... is there an MV furnace? 23:01 kaeza wow 23:01 Vadtec mhm 23:01 Vadtec MV electric and MV alloy 23:02 kaeza last time I checked there was only an MV solar panel and batt box 23:02 kaeza I need to update my recipes :) 23:04 Vadtec so, can i assume the only diff between the mining drill and the mining laser is range and speed? 23:08 Vadtec whoa...whats the range on the mining laser...? 23:10 kaeza Vadtec, the mining drill only digs the pointed item, while the laser keeps on digging 23:10 Vadtec kaeza: yeah, but how far? its not the most accurate thing ever lol... 23:11 kaeza about 8 nodes 23:11 kaeza that's the max I ever dug with the laser 23:11 kaeza most of the time you get 4 nodes though 23:12 Vadtec think ill use the mining drill down here lol 23:12 kaeza but take heed: your cobblestone stacks will rack up incredibly fast :) 23:12 Vadtec i need accuracy 23:16 Kacey hi all 23:16 MinetestBot hi Kacey 23:17 Vadtec so i guess the mining drill can mine any block in the game and never wears out...right? 23:29 Vadtec kaeza: is it ok to have loops where the water mills are? 23:29 kaeza avoid looped circuits whenever possible 23:29 Kacey ? 23:29 Vadtec bleh...this entire setup is screwed then 23:30 Vadtec unless.... 23:30 Kacey what are you two talking about? 23:31 Vadtec damnit...that wont work either 23:31 Vadtec Kacey: techic power grids 23:31 Kacey really? 23:31 Vadtec yup 23:31 Kacey are you on a server? 23:32 Vadtec yes 23:32 Kacey what is the ip? 23:32 Vadtec its a private server for me and my kids, really isnt setup for public access right now 23:33 Kacey ... can i have a link to the dl then? 23:33 Kacey or just plain technic? 23:34 Vadtec https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic 23:34 Kacey just plain technic 23:44 kaeza so i guess the mining drill can mine any block in the game and never wears out...right? <-- Any block that you can dig normally; it cannot dig protected or unbreakable nodes, or nodes like chests whose inventory is not empty. 23:44 Vadtec of course 23:44 Vadtec just avoids needing to carry 3-4 tools around 23:44 Vadtec :P 23:44 kaeza Also, the mining drill does wear out, but not in the conventional sense 23:45 kaeza it runs out of power, but never "destroys" 23:45 kaeza (i.e. you never lose it) 23:45 kaeza to use again, you must recharge it 23:45 Vadtec yup 23:46 Vadtec had to several times already lol 23:47 Vadtec damnit...trying to use a checker board layout for these water mills ...isnt gonna work 23:47 Vadtec think im gonna need a cascade setup 23:48 kaeza yup 23:48 kaeza it only activates with *flowing* water 23:48 Vadtec and only at 100% if flowing on all 4 sides 23:48 kaeza yup 23:49 Vadtec oh wait...nvm...copper wire stops water flow 23:50 kaeza heh 23:50 kaeza it's a bit tricky 23:50 Vadtec i dont like the astethics of it, but i have an idea for a better water mill setup im gonna build anyways 23:50 Vadtec for now, it does what i want 23:50 * NekoGloop|Laptop puts kittens on all the heads 23:50 Vadtec aka: gives me power 23:52 kaeza if my connection wasn't so laggy, I would invite you to my world to show you 23:53 Kacey playing my legit server 23:55 Vadtec water behaves the same in MT as MC in that you can create an infinte water source right? 23:56 kaeza yup 23:57 Vadtec kk, my game must be glitched atm, its not working 23:57 kaeza place two sources with air between them, or diagonally 23:57 Vadtec its not letting me pick up any water at all 23:58 kaeza Vadtec, 186.191.18.22 port 30000 23:59 kaeza hmm... maybe it'sstuck somewhere in Lua 23:59 kaeza -s 23:59 Vadtec dunno, just restarted it 23:59 Vadtec im connecting to yours now