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00:00 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to celeron55/minetest: Merge pull request #503 from RealBadAngel/master 6b9906687b 2013-02-23T15:58:00-08:00 http://git.io/ADXp1g
00:02 Kacey Menche, PING
00:03 Menche pingity ping
00:03 Menche ?
00:03 Kacey why aren't you installing technic?
00:05 NekoGloop pongity pon
00:05 NekoGloop pong*
00:09 NekoGloop Bug: I can kill myself by climbing.
00:09 NekoGloop Fix it dammit, you're making climbing useless.
00:09 Menche climbing downward with fast move?
00:10 NekoGloop ... That's just fucking stupid.
00:11 Menche IMO the movement stuff and fast_move shouldn't apply to climbing
00:11 ShadowNinja kacey: technic lags, that is why I just removed it from my server
00:12 ShadowNinja and by lag I mean cpu lag
00:12 Kacey my server doesnt lag worse than it did without technic
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00:17 NekoGloop Anyone got a good cloud-y texture?
00:18 VanessaE cloudy?
00:18 VanessaE o.O
00:18 MinetestBot VanessaE: What are you wondering about?
00:18 NekoGloop Yes, a cloud texture :)
00:18 jordan4ibanez Where do you get that image that shows if an ip adress is reachable?
00:18 VanessaE er..
00:19 jordan4ibanez Like sfan5's server
00:20 VanessaE I am wondering if I should don my steel boots and kick that bot squarely in the ass
00:20 Menche does !up work?
00:20 jordan4ibanez !up
00:20 MinetestBot jordan4ibanez: Give me a Server Address
00:20 jordan4ibanez !up google.com
00:20 MinetestBot google.com:30000 seems to be down
00:20 jordan4ibanez OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
00:21 Menche !up menche.servegame.com 30005
00:21 MinetestBot menche.servegame.com:30005 is up (0.477ms)
00:21 Menche !up menche.servegame.com 30000
00:21 MinetestBot menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (0.321ms)
00:21 jordan4ibanez Now sfan5 actually did that with a sticker
00:21 jordan4ibanez or an image on his forum psot
00:21 jordan4ibanez post*
00:23 jordan4ibanez I have an idea
00:24 Kacey player "pig" is now banned
00:24 jordan4ibanez What is a good protection plugin?
00:24 jordan4ibanez Why is pig banned?
00:25 Kacey griefing (he isnt banned i rolled him back too far
00:26 Kacey we need 2 glow glass Menche and we cannot craft it
00:29 NekoGloop VanessaE: So can you make me a cloud texture pwease? :)
00:30 VanessaE no
00:30 NekoGloop why not :(
00:32 VanessaE burned out for now
00:46 khonkhortisan vi doc/init.lua - wait, what?
00:50 jordan4ibanez I need some help with www html stuff
00:51 jordan4ibanez thexyz are you there
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00:57 Kacey !up menche.servegame.com 30005
00:57 MinetestBot menche.servegame.com:30005 is up (1.503ms)
00:57 Menche that's jordan's server
00:58 Kacey aah
00:58 Menche i'm just relaying the connection
00:58 Kacey can i have one?
00:58 Menche he's hosting the server himself; i'm forwarding the port for him
00:59 Kacey ?
00:59 Menche we're on a vpn
00:59 Kacey aah
01:01 jordan4ibanez Lol I'm going through the whole process of creating an entire apache server JUST TO HOST A PICTURE
01:02 khonkhortisan I read "aah" more like Aah! than ahh... or ah/oh.
01:02 khonkhortisan Well you should've started the server earlier
01:02 khonkhortisan I can just put the picture up
01:03 Menche what you hosting the picture for?
01:03 khonkhortisan A search for temporary image hosting will satisfy most needs
01:03 jordan4ibanez To show if my server is up :3
01:04 khonkhortisan with a crontab?
01:04 jordan4ibanez what is a crontab?
01:04 Menche for sceduling tasks
01:04 khonkhortisan A unix system of running a command on schedule
01:04 Menche i use it for my backups and map updates
01:05 jordan4ibanez I just clone the virtual servers
01:05 khonkhortisan I could use it but don't ☺
01:06 Menche i could try to hava an image based on whether a ping goes through to your server
01:06 Menche don't know how to test if the minetestserver is actually running though
01:07 khonkhortisan output.png = (ping server) ? on.png : off.png
01:07 jordan4ibanez We could make a mod :D
01:07 khonkhortisan out = ping and on or off
01:07 jordan4ibanez Try http://menche.servegame.com:30005/test.html
01:07 jordan4ibanez It wants to load, but can't :P
01:07 khonkhortisan that's worse than an error
01:08 khonkhortisan uh, why are you hosting it on a minetest port?
01:09 Menche don't think you can have a webserver and minetestserver on the same port...
01:09 jordan4ibanez Oopsies
01:09 khonkhortisan Even if you skip that port for minetest, it's an unusual port for html
01:09 Menche usually 80
01:09 khonkhortisan 8080 if that doesn't work
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01:10 * khonkhortisan feels like a swimming athlete
01:10 Kacey y?
01:10 khonkhortisan minetest+swimming+fast+recent physics change
01:10 khonkhortisan I can swim so fast I hurt myself
01:10 Kacey lol
01:10 Menche jumping 10 meters out of the water?
01:11 khonkhortisan diving into the bottom of the ocean
01:11 Menche killing yourself by swimming downwards too fast?
01:11 khonkhortisan yeah
01:11 khonkhortisan but not up or sideways
01:11 Menche making server status images
01:11 khonkhortisan I can also waterjump
01:12 khonkhortisan skipping across the surface
01:13 NekoGloop Because you can so jump 10m out of the water irl
01:13 jordan4ibanez Oh nooooooooooo
01:14 jordan4ibanez I submitted my forum post on accident! I can't edit the poll!
01:14 khonkhortisan delete it?
01:14 jordan4ibanez How?
01:15 jordan4ibanez VanessaE please delete this FAST!: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4888
01:16 Menche there should be a "delete" button at the bottom of the post
01:17 jordan4ibanez There's not
01:17 VanessaE dekleted.
01:17 VanessaE deleted, too.
01:17 * khonkhortisan goes off to reklete something
01:18 Menche You had your post both dekleted AND deleted?!?!
01:18 * jordan4ibanez hugs vanessa
01:18 MinetestBot jordan4ibanez:  :D
01:18 khonkhortisan oh that's an adjective
01:18 jordan4ibanez thank you :D
01:20 * Kacey hugs himself
01:20 MinetestBot Kacey:  :D
01:20 Kacey hugs
01:20 Kacey nope didnt work
01:20 jordan4ibanez hugs
01:20 jordan4ibanez hmm
01:20 * jordan4ibanez hugs
01:20 * khonkhortisan hugs
01:21 * jordan4ibanez hugs poop
01:21 MinetestBot jordan4ibanez:  :D
01:21 jordan4ibanez wtf
01:21 khonkhortisan hehe
01:21 jordan4ibanez O.o
01:21 MinetestBot jordan4ibanez: What are you wondering about?
01:21 * khonkhortisan hugs ":D"
01:21 MinetestBot khonkhortisan:  :D
01:21 jordan4ibanez ITS ALIVE D:
01:21 khonkhortisan You! Wondering about you!
01:21 * Menche puts a puppy on MinetestBot's harddrive
01:21 MinetestBot Menche: Awwwww....
01:22 * khonkhortisan puts a kitten on MinetestBot harddrive, which then starts fighting with the puppy in a way MinetestBot can't say "Aww" about.
01:22 MinetestBot khonkhortisan: I don't want it, talk to NekoGloop, he likes kittens
01:22 khonkhortisan oh
01:22 * NekoGloop hugs ALL THE PEOPLE.
01:22 MinetestBot NekoGloop:  :D
01:23 khonkhortisan it worked
01:23 khonkhortisan mbot didn't say aww
01:23 Menche how do you check whether a command was successful?
01:23 MiJyn minetestbot, you are mean
01:23 khonkhortisan whether mbot says anything
01:23 MiJyn hugs
01:23 MiJyn hugs minetestbot
01:23 * MiJyn huts minetestbot
01:23 * khonkhortisan hugs MinetestBot
01:23 MinetestBot khonkhortisan:  :D
01:23 * MiJyn hugs minetest bot
01:23 MinetestBot MiJyn:  :D
01:23 MiJyn FINALLY
01:24 khonkhortisan What does it take to make a self-repairing machine?
01:25 NekoGloop khonkhortisan: A kitten, elbow grease, and a few years of training
01:25 jordan4ibanez This is the best commit yet http://goo.gl/zeB07
01:25 khonkhortisan I'd need a blood vein of pipeworks, with a dispenser to replace the blood vein, with another dispenser to replace that dispenser, and so on
01:26 Menche how do you test whether a server is running?
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01:26 hmmmm there
01:26 khonkhortisan Let's see who moves the key config there first
01:26 Traxie21 MenHia
01:26 hmmmm there's sample code for it in docs/protocol.txt*
01:26 jordan4ibanez You ping it menche
01:27 khonkhortisan killall minetestserver
01:27 NekoGloop jordan4ibanez: No, this is: https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/commit/3849349c19fb9f8ad0eb9b821efb8f5f98e71ae9
01:27 Traxie21 Is there a way to close formspecs with custom keys?
01:27 VanessaE can I get a few people to download today's updates of moretrees and plantlife and tell me if they experience any crashes?
01:27 khonkhortisan formspecs are very limited
01:27 VanessaE this has me stymied:  http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=72310#p72310
01:28 Traxie21 khonk, with a bit of ingenuity, you can do a lot with a formspec
01:28 Kacey http://menche.servegame.com/ no map anymore?
01:28 Traxie21 I just made a achievements system
01:28 Menche wow, not sure what happened
01:28 Traxie21 https://github.com/Traxie21/achievements
01:31 Kacey found a desert cave lol
01:32 khonkhortisan how do I get to the sound menu?
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01:32 khonkhortisan oh. Have to 'make' after 'git pull'
01:32 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaGtncA/screenshot_164879085.png
01:32 Kacey cmake first lol
01:33 khonkhortisan every time?
01:33 Menche Kacey: fixed the map page
01:34 Menche but minetestmapper only made half a map  :(
01:34 Menche "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'DbError'"
01:34 Kacey http://menche.servegame.com/ it says welcome to nginx
01:34 Menche should be fixed now
01:35 Menche minetestmapper is only generating a small section of the map
01:35 jordan4ibanez I can't wait for that particle spawner in c++ THE POSSIBILITIES :D
01:42 ShadowNinja has anyone else noticed that node placement prediction seems to be off for all blocks in latest git?
01:43 RealBadAngel there was a patch about it
01:43 RealBadAngel check latest commits
01:43 jordan4ibanez RBA When is your compooper coming out?
01:43 RealBadAngel lol
01:44 RealBadAngel dunno, last 2 days ive spent inside engine
01:45 RealBadAngel just pulled some code bout trees
01:45 RealBadAngel tommorrow morning i want to finish 6d facedir patch
01:45 jordan4ibanez oh ok
01:45 * ShadowNinja compiles and gets lag heaven
01:46 jordan4ibanez I wonder if there could be a basic reload mod, which on server close loads a .sh file which starts up the server
01:46 RealBadAngel and then i will start adding new elements and fixes for formspec
01:46 RealBadAngel which are needed by computer
01:46 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: that's easily done.   while true; do sleep 1; minetestserver --foo --bar --blah; done
01:46 jordan4ibanez What will the computer be able to do? CAN I EMAIL OTHER computers?
01:47 jordan4ibanez oops caps lock lol
01:47 RealBadAngel huh, possibly
01:47 RealBadAngel just write an app for it
01:47 jordan4ibanez Oh okay, neato, I wish there was a very basic server console gui :L
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01:48 Kacey i can make an IO expander for the computers if you just make them rba
01:49 Kacey so digilines can be used
01:49 RealBadAngel that will be needed too
01:49 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hi!
01:49 RealBadAngel hi OldCoder
01:50 Menche hmmmm: how to use that? i assume it is BASH?
01:50 NekoGloop ComputerCraft in MT?
01:50 Kacey more of redpower 2
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01:50 RealBadAngel by now sinple command line intterpreter
01:51 NekoGloop Hell, as long as it ain't fuckin' FORTH.
01:51 jordan4ibanez If you guys make redpower in minetest :D
01:51 jordan4ibanez FORTH is easy, why not put it in there?
01:51 RealBadAngel we already have forth in lua
01:51 RealBadAngel also lua in lua is possible
01:52 Kacey lol luacontrollers
01:52 RealBadAngel not really
01:52 NekoGloop FORTH is easy; you only have to invent the stone, the chisel, the tools to make the chisel, and the tools to make those tools, in order to make the wheel.
01:52 RealBadAngel http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaInterpreterInLua
01:52 RealBadAngel lua in a sandbox
01:53 jordan4ibanez I run on lua
01:53 jordan4ibanez But can lua run on me?
01:53 NekoGloop I run on caffeeine.
01:53 RealBadAngel so writing programs in it wont crash the game
01:53 jordan4ibanez Can you run c++ in lua?
01:53 RealBadAngel but just ingame computer
01:54 Menche you can load a c++ library from lua, that's how the irc mod works
01:54 jordan4ibanez Can we write minetest mods in the computer you're making?
01:54 Menche can we run minetest in the computer you're making?
01:54 jordan4ibanez Oh okay
01:55 RealBadAngel lol
01:55 NekoGloop I have a youtube subscriber without any videos.
01:55 jordan4ibanez I wonder if we can create computers with minetest
01:56 RealBadAngel why not?
01:56 jordan4ibanez Well it'd take an incredible amount of energy to create hardware and software, then write an OS
01:56 jordan4ibanez What OS will your computers have?
01:57 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/user/GloopTheMaster 1 subscriber - 0 videos.
01:57 RealBadAngel im targeting on porting CP/M on it
01:57 NekoGloop LOGIC. WHERE ART THOUGH.
01:57 NekoGloop THOU, even.
01:58 jin_xi so its a Z80?
01:58 NekoGloop Guess I'm just that good. (⌐■_■)
01:59 RealBadAngel yes
01:59 khonkhortisan You need mesecons to make computers in minetest
02:00 NekoGloop khonkhortisan: He's making a computer in lua.
02:00 khonkhortisan jordan4ibanez, you can just use creative mode
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02:02 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pyrTM_aZQI found the rp2 computer
02:02 jordan4ibanez No to make computers with guis, and such :D
02:03 hmmmm Menche, no, it clearly says that it's PHP
02:04 Menche oh, dug
02:04 Menche *duh
02:04 hmmmm try something like:  php check_server.php
02:04 hmmmm if you have php installed
02:04 Menche suppose i should have read the whole thing :P
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02:05 VanessaE oops
02:06 VanessaE brb
02:06 RealBadAngel hehe
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02:06 VanessaE bah, stupid thing.
02:06 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to celeron55/minetest: Merge pull request #505 from RealBadAngel/master 9bd76f2972 2013-02-23T18:06:07-08:00 http://git.io/Dbfi-Q
02:14 * Kacey REALLY wants that computer
02:16 * ShadowNinja likes the volume change option
02:31 * Kacey is bored...
02:32 RealBadAngel ShadowNinja, way better than previous one, isnt it?
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02:34 RealBadAngel btw have you done anything new with the force fields?
02:34 Kacey oops
02:39 Kacey [string "if event.(type == "digiline" channel == "1" msg == "false") and..."]:1: '<name>' expected near '('
02:39 Kacey ?
02:41 Kacey how do i make it so that if 2 digiline channels and messages are correct, a port is true?
02:52 Traxie21 meow
02:53 Kacey moo
02:53 ShadowNinja Kacey use event == {type="digiline, channel="1",msg="false"}
02:54 Kacey k
02:54 Kacey ( or {
02:54 Kacey does it matter?
02:54 ShadowNinja and RealBad angel much better, I havn't worked on it recently
02:54 ShadowNinja it is {
02:55 Kacey does it matter?
02:55 ShadowNinja () organizes {} specifies a table
02:55 Kacey aah
02:55 ShadowNinja s/organizes/groups/
02:57 Kacey not seeming to work
02:58 ShadowNinja is that all there is in event?
02:58 Kacey ill pm you the code
02:59 ShadowNinja if not you can just do event.type=="digiline" and event.channel ...
03:00 Kacey no because i need 2 channels to send the false message for it to work
03:00 * ShadowNinja needs to get irssi notifications to work
03:01 ShadowNinja sorry if I don't respond to pm's
03:02 Kacey pmed
03:03 ShadowNinja of course it will fail, it is like saying if x==1 and x==2
03:03 Kacey then how do i get it to work?
03:03 ShadowNinja you need to use memory
03:03 NekoGloop ew irssi
03:04 ShadowNinja mem.* is persistent
03:04 Kacey ?
03:04 ShadowNinja thexyz: if you are online can you help?
03:05 ShadowNinja when you get a signal you have to save it
03:05 Kacey how?
03:05 ShadowNinja mem.got_first_part_of_message=true
03:06 Kacey ?
03:06 ShadowNinja as soon as you get a digiline message it is removed
03:07 ShadowNinja write it on a luacontroller on my server and I can try to rewrite it
03:07 Kacey ip?
03:08 ShadowNinja 67.241.154.164
03:08 ShadowNinja serverlist is working now
03:08 Kacey mine isnt
03:09 Kacey i think serverlist_url is wrong
03:10 ShadowNinja do you have it compiled with curl?
03:11 ShadowNinja RealBadAngel: could you add a clear inventory button to unified_inventory?
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03:23 ShadowNinja can someone get [ and ] working in formspecs please?
03:25 Kacey ?
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03:50 Kacey getting off for the nighr
03:50 Kacey night*
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04:03 jordan4ibanez ok so everything on my server is fully automated
04:04 jordan4ibanez my computer starts up at 8:50, which when it gets to the desktop it starts up the virtual server, which starts/restarts the server every 1 hour, so I could not be there for a week and it'd work
04:05 jordan4ibanez Also you can give a post THOUSANDS of views by holding down the refresh button
04:05 jordan4ibanez I just gave your server 400 views in 15 seconds VanessaE lol
04:07 jordan4ibanez But how do I have it so I can see what a chron job is doing in the terminal?
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04:17 jordan4ibanez I've created a bash script that starts the server, then if minetest crashes, restarts the script, but now I can't stop it lol
04:18 sdzen this is why man invented the power cord :)
04:18 jordan4ibanez Oh wait I stopped it
04:18 jordan4ibanez Now that joke isn't funny :(
04:19 sdzen hmmmm look at this cave http://i2.minus.com/igS8CrP8Jtjsd.png
04:20 hmmmm that is a pretty crazy cave
04:20 jordan4ibanez WTF are you wielding?!
04:20 hmmmm it's not my fault though
04:21 sdzen I have never seen a cave like that before :)
04:21 NekoGloop Oh hey, look, it's that server that I can't join
04:22 sdzen oh and VanessaE your trees eat caves :P
04:22 sdzen guess they were hungry
04:22 sdzen http://i3.minus.com/ibxtw4NkOVJbZm.png
04:25 jordan4ibanez No
04:25 jordan4ibanez Just no
04:26 jordan4ibanez YES my server auto starts up :D :D :D
04:26 Menche seems to be down at the moment
04:27 jordan4ibanez Why do you say that?
04:28 jordan4ibanez Menche can you have the image cronjob run at */1 on the minute
04:30 Menche what does that do?
04:31 jordan4ibanez */1 makes it happen every minute
04:32 jordan4ibanez or hour, or whatever you put it under */1 is whichever is divisable by 1
04:34 Menche ok
04:34 Menche and, i modified the checking script
04:35 Menche now, rather than pinging the server, it actually checks if minetestserver is running
04:35 jordan4ibanez Sweet
04:35 Menche modified the code from minetestbot
04:35 jordan4ibanez Very smart
04:37 NekoGloop What does the "builder" specialty do?
04:39 sdzen hmm menche does it also check for minetest --server? running?
04:40 Menche it begins to connect to the server and checks for the server's response
04:40 jordan4ibanez What is this? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/bc2e9dbaf2fe31a1aa8282c0ac7c87aee490c75c
04:41 Menche something to do with announcing the server status to the official server list
04:41 jordan4ibanez Hmm, i wonder if it's like MOTD or something
04:42 Menche http://servers.minetest.net
04:42 Menche apparently only 3 server owners have figured out how to use it
04:42 jordan4ibanez lmfao
04:43 Menche took me a few tries to get it working
04:44 jordan4ibanez wow finite liquid server is amazing
04:44 jordan4ibanez the finite liquid is so fast
04:45 sdzen I enabled it but It doesn't pick up on mine :)
04:46 sdzen I filled out everything
04:46 sdzen but it wont show up :)
04:46 Menche is it really slow or is it just my internet connection
04:48 jordan4ibanez Just your internet connection
04:48 jordan4ibanez I detonated 20 things of hardcore mese tnt :L
04:53 sdzen goodbye world!
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04:57 jordan4ibanez sdzen was so young
04:58 jordan4ibanez he was like 6 or something
05:04 jordan4ibanez What is a good protection/land claim plugin?
05:05 Menche i used to use node_ownership
05:05 Menche it requires a moderator to give out areas though
05:05 Menche i was lazy this time, i use protector now
05:07 jordan4ibanez What are moderator privs?
05:07 Menche i forget
05:08 Menche protector doesn't add any special privs
05:09 jordan4ibanez What about cornernote's node_ownership?
05:09 Menche i forget what the privs were, but a moderator had to assign areas for players
05:09 jordan4ibanez nevermind that stinks
05:09 jordan4ibanez hmmmm
05:09 jordan4ibanez I think I'll just add it in to protect spawn
05:09 Menche a player could assign sub-areas of one of his areas himself, though
05:09 Menche it was really hard to use
05:10 Menche the coords couldn't overlap
05:10 jordan4ibanez Is it good for spawn protection? Does it protect against falling nodes like sand?\
05:10 jordan4ibanez sand*
05:10 Menche i don't think it can
05:10 Menche what i use now is protector
05:10 jordan4ibanez what is protector?
05:11 Menche a player can place a special block, and everything with 8 blocks of it is claimed
05:11 Menche not as flexible, but much easier and keeps me from being flooded with requests to protect areas
05:11 jordan4ibanez Does that protect against falling nodes?
05:12 Menche i don't think it checks for entities
05:12 jordan4ibanez Man there's not one thing that can protect against falling nodes
05:12 Menche you can just use rollback to get anything that protection misses
05:12 Menche rollback even undos fire damage
05:13 Menche rollback logging isn't enabled by default, though
05:14 MiJyn bye all
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05:16 jordan4ibanez What a perdicament
05:30 jordan4ibanez Man minetest servers are a bit easier to work with then minecraft servers
05:32 FreeFull Are minecraft servers written in java?
05:32 jordan4ibanez Yea, but bukkit is supposed to be extremely easy
05:33 jordan4ibanez With latest updates it has become a compatability/privelage mess
05:38 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/aKEcGSgLWYE
05:38 jordan4ibanez Lowers your blood pressure
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06:03 akerok Hello.
06:09 jordan4ibanez My game settings aren't getting saved to the minetest.conf
06:10 jordan4ibanez hi azerok
06:11 akerok How are you?
06:11 jordan4ibanez Grand, and yourself?
06:13 akerok I'm alright.  Just trying to figure out what's wrong with my  mods.
06:14 jordan4ibanez nice
06:14 jordan4ibanez Aparently when you compile minetest as a server alone it can't modify the minetest.conf?
06:15 akerok Really?
06:15 jordan4ibanez celeron55 is this correct? Or am I doing something wrong?
06:15 jordan4ibanez Yes, it appears to be so, I checked if it was writable and it is
06:19 akerok I see.  I'm doing as much research as I can on Lua and C right now.  I want to try to help develop Minetest if I can.
06:22 akerok I'm starting by working on a mod.  Hopefully, this will give me some background so I can help improve the game ultimately.
06:24 MiJyn Hey, I'm totally off-topic! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bis0ZnKQTK0   !!!!
06:24 MiJyn good song though :P
06:24 MiJyn well, I gtg to bed, see y'all later (yes, I know, you missed my many 0 lines that I wrote today ;)
06:25 akerok Take care.
06:25 MiJyn thanks :)
06:25 MiJyn oh, btw, I have done lots of work on my mod, might release it soon :D
06:25 akerok You are welcome.
06:25 MiJyn (and yes, I know, who cares, but... well... it's related to minetest :P)
06:25 akerok lol
06:26 MiJyn xD
06:26 MiJyn anyways, now I think I _really_ got to go
06:28 akerok Ttyl.
06:43 OldCoder Zzz
06:48 VanessaE z.
06:49 * VanessaE wanders off to bed.
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07:48 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'rssnotify' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/rssnotify.py'> (version: 2013-02-24 07:48:27)
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08:54 Oblivion1500 anyone here have experience with mysql5?
08:57 sfan5 Oblivi
08:57 sfan5 Oblivion1500: i have some experience
08:57 sfan5 please note the "some"
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09:50 RealBadAngel hi all
09:50 MinetestBot hi RealBadAngel
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10:21 jin_xi sup
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10:41 BackupCoder heyzzz
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10:52 john_minetest hi
10:52 MinetestBot hi john_minetest
11:06 akerok Hello.
11:07 akerok How are you?
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11:17 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:17 MinetestBot hi PilzAdam
11:18 RealBadAngel hi
11:18 MinetestBot hi RealBadAngel
11:19 jin_xi Hey Adam
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11:22 Jordach Calinou, do you know what day it is?
11:27 Calinou open a terminal and type date :>
11:27 Jordach Calinou, nope.
11:27 Jordach Linux upgradin' day.
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11:28 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, what happens if Lua passes no seed to make_ltree()?
11:28 RealBadAngel nothing
11:29 RealBadAngel seed is 0
11:29 PilzAdam wouldnt it be better if a random seed gets generated when Lua doesnt provide one?
11:30 RealBadAngel no seed means no seed, not a random one
11:30 celeron55 a random seed would be much better
11:30 celeron55 probably
11:31 RealBadAngel add it?
11:32 Calinou *random idea appears*, let user input seed when creating world :P
11:38 Jordach hey PilzAdam
11:41 * Jordach will start installing Xubuntu once file transfers are complete
11:43 PilzAdam Kubuntu is better
11:43 PilzAdam Xubuntu is for slow PCs
11:43 Jordach PilzAdam, fancy DE == slow GPU
11:43 Jordach PilzAdam, i want speed boosts
11:43 Jordach rather than slowness
11:44 PilzAdam KDE works fine on my GTX 460
11:44 Jordach the less power i require the better
11:45 Jordach sfan5, (TF2 later?)
11:45 * Jordach will finally sign back into steam
11:50 * FreeFull uses dwm. dwm is not something to be used by someone who enjoys the convienience of a standard WM. dwm is nice when you do everything with your keyboard anyway
11:52 * john_minetest uses dwm.
11:52 * Jordach uses nothing atm
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12:21 Jordach how is everyone
12:22 jin_xi hm, i'm wonderin if i should merge the tree editor and axiom generator into one thing
12:22 Jordach jin_xi, wise idea
12:25 jin_xi lol, well i dont think anyone is ever gonna use either...
12:26 celeron55 people won't use most things, but nobody can know beforehand what people will use
12:27 Jordach eg, ms word and lotus writer
12:27 Jordach (one came before, but the other overtook)
12:30 * Jordach is considering writing a distro called GlaDOS
12:33 Jordach 2/3 PC's in this house run xubuntu, (the third is a brand new win 7 tower)
12:33 sfan5 !ar enable
12:33 MinetestBot AR enabled.
12:34 Jordach Action Replay?
12:34 sfan5 Automated Response
12:34 Jordach aye
12:34 sfan5 <Jordach> sfan5, (TF2 later?)
12:34 Jordach yes
12:34 sfan5 i was playing some xonotic
12:34 sfan5 in case you don't know xonotic
12:34 sfan5 !g xonotic
12:34 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.xonotic.org/
12:34 Jordach sfan5, i usually play [MoN] Vehicle gameplay
12:34 Jordach (usually unlimited ammo CTF)
12:35 sfan5 i usually play [MoN] Overkill [Mod]
12:35 Jordach i play that too, surprised i've not played you yet
12:35 sfan5 what about you join #mon.xonotic @ QuakeNet
12:36 * Jordach hopes i used sda5 as "/" install point
12:36 Jordach (sda2 is the music / movie drive)
12:36 sfan5 I used UUID=9308b44e-ed95-4c19-bf54-7c1d5cc080b1 as the install drive :P
12:36 Jordach sfan5, later, i have a quakenet nick too
12:37 Jordach once im in and happy, i'll game on later
12:37 * Jordach is close to the finish of installing
12:37 sfan5 well i'm going to play some xonotic right now
12:38 Jordach :D
12:38 sfan5 hello from my ipod
12:38 sfan5 ...
12:38 sfan5 ^ advantage of bouncers
12:38 * Jordach pokes Taoki[mobile]'s Samsung Galaxy S3
12:39 sfan5 same nick 2 devices
12:39 Jordach final stretch now, downloading packages
12:46 Jordach bbiab
12:49 john_minetest Oh, Mobile phones... So much fun to touch other's phone all the time and ask "Is it touch?" :D
12:49 john_minetest And by doing this leaving ugly fingerprint on the display ;)
12:50 sfan5 :D
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12:54 jordach there we go
12:56 jordach mmhmm, the smell of linux
12:58 sfan5 :D
12:58 sfan5 \o\
12:58 jordach sfan5, what channel in qn
12:59 sfan5 #mon.xonotic
12:59 jordach done
12:59 jordach not to set LDRoT
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13:01 sfan5 wut?
13:01 jordach now*
13:02 jordach (irc server)
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13:20 jordach i've just realised i've got 30 GBP in google adsense money
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13:30 sapier I've just added experimental pathfinding to mobf. Currently it's not doing anything usefull and only finding paths on surface. you may test it by calling
13:30 sapier "find_path pos1 pos2 (short)"
13:30 sapier if you add "short" it'll find shortest path which will take quite some time so be carefull with this optional parameter
13:33 jordach so shortest takes the longest
13:34 jordach irony.
13:35 sapier always same ;-)
13:35 sapier on most situations heuristic is almost as good as shortest
13:35 jordach sapier, why not A* with Heuristics?
13:36 sapier it is A* ;-) but A* is only a class of algorithms not a fully specified one
13:36 sapier and A* is limited to "one surface" movement
13:38 jordach odd bug: 13:36:24: INFO[main]: Lazily creating item texture and mesh for "moreblocks:slab_coalchecker_wall"
13:45 jordach this is strange.
13:45 jordach minetest from the terminal just dies
13:46 * jordach suspects chromium
13:47 * jordach has this bug before.
13:49 jordach bbiab, reboot
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13:54 jordach you are literally fucking kidding me
13:54 jordach 220fps with opengl
14:01 PilzAdam jordach, what have you expected?
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14:21 jordach well thats strange
14:21 jordach i can only run minetest once before i cant run it again
14:21 jordach (it uses PilzAdam's flatmap)
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14:22 jordach oh and: 14:20:52: INFO[main]: Updating configuration file: "/home/jordach/Desktop/minetest-flat/bin/../minetest.conf"
14:22 jordach 14:20:52: INFO[main]: Skipping writing of /home/jordach/Desktop/minetest-flat/bin/../minetest.conf because content wouldn't be modified
14:23 sapier seems perfectly normal?
14:23 jordach the program hangs at the main menu
14:24 jordach the nvidia driver is usually the source of this bug
14:25 * jordach tries recommended
14:27 jordach brb
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14:32 webdesigner97 hi!
14:32 MinetestBot hi webdesigner97
14:32 jordach sapier, it was the driver
14:33 sapier driver? strange
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14:36 jordach and i semise xonotic will be quicker
14:40 troller https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/482 - wants to merge, try on server h4.setun.net:30000
14:41 jordach x-msg much?
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14:43 jordach awesome, my server is up! 81.155.108.41
14:46 thexyz !up 81.155.108.41
14:46 MinetestBot 81.155.108.41:30000 is up (0.139ms)
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14:49 thexyz https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-stress/commit/066d257ad031162cae98597c8075107c22759320
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14:50 thexyz it's already possible to code small mods in it
14:50 thexyz (i hope)
14:51 sapier what does stress mean?
14:51 thexyz http://dev.minetest.net/User:Xyz/stress
14:51 thexyz like in "to stress"
14:51 thexyz _
14:52 sapier I still don't understand what this intends to do?
14:52 sapier is this just another sort of entity more similar to nodes?
14:53 thexyz to make modders' lifes easier
14:53 thexyz it's like jQuery for javascript
14:53 sapier I still don't see what this should do?
14:54 thexyz write less, do more
14:54 thexyz framework, syntactic sugar
14:54 sapier can you please explain WHAT this framework is intended to do not whats api or whats benefit ;-P
14:54 thexyz 18:53   thexyz: write less, do more
14:55 sapier so it's just a new api
14:55 thexyz maybe, call it whatever you want
14:55 jordach sfan5, your blocker works
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14:56 Kacey hiall
14:56 jordach hey Kacey
14:56 Kacey hahaha
14:56 hmmmm you're putting lua coders under a lot of Stress with that
14:56 sapier doesn't look more readable to me but I assume that's a personal opinion only
14:56 sfan5 jordach: blocker?
14:56 Kacey MinetestBot doesnt know what to do
14:56 Kacey ?
14:56 jordach sfan5, your custom .we
14:56 jordach (or loader)
14:56 sfan5 its a .we loader
14:58 thexyz sapier: why?
14:58 jordach but its VERY fast
14:58 jordach come see
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14:59 thexyz https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-stress/blob/master/examples/simple/init.lua#L9
14:59 sapier because _ could mean anything
14:59 sfan5 jordach: i know that its fast
14:59 thexyz oh
15:00 thexyz good to know that's the only flaw
15:00 sapier it's nit a speaking name at all it's just a define
15:00 thexyz you, of course, can write Stress instead of _
15:00 jordach you havent seen industrial scale usage
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15:00 sapier that's just the most obvious one
15:00 thexyz any others?
15:00 Kacey jordach what happened to Jordach?
15:00 jordach Kacey, i just moved to xubuntu
15:00 Kacey 12.04?
15:00 sapier stress doesn't mean anything at all ... you might already have noticed I couldn't link "stress" to any usefull feature
15:00 Kacey i use that
15:00 celeron55 sapier: have you ever used jquery?
15:01 jordach 11.10 fyi
15:01 Kacey aah
15:01 Kacey cool
15:01 sapier yes but I didn't like it as it's more database than programming language
15:01 celeron55 lol :D
15:02 celeron55 i don't think you can be serious
15:02 thexyz the name is random but I don't think it's way too bad
15:02 sapier I don't say it's bad only it's unreadable in my opinion
15:02 thexyz fine
15:02 ShadowNinja Kacey: my server is back up if you want to finish what you were doing
15:02 sapier I think of benchmarking and test on reading the word "stress"
15:03 Kacey i know i am on it right now
15:03 celeron55 the name sure is pretty random, but i have no better alternatives
15:03 thexyz celeron55: do you like the idea?
15:03 celeron55 (so i don't complain)
15:03 celeron55 thexyz: dunno, i haven't written enough mod code to form any opinion on such
15:04 Kacey my luacontroller keeps breaking...
15:04 celeron55 other than that i don't really object it
15:05 celeron55 i was surprised anyone came up with that in the first place, it's an interesting idea
15:05 sapier reading: >_("default:dirt"):on("place",< I have to evaluate this expression to see what it's actually doing ... while I see at first glance what the long way does ... maybe that changes on using it but I hope you won't drop the current api as it's far more beginer friendly
15:06 jordach okay, mt crash
15:06 celeron55 sapier: jquery, as well as stress, is about adding a few more conventions in order to lessen verbosity
15:06 celeron55 you have to learn the conventions first
15:06 celeron55 then you can judge it
15:07 sapier no I don't have to learn any arbitrary complex language to tell it doesn't look easy to beginners
15:07 jin_xi i have not used jquery and am not used to the style but yes, it looks like it can make mod code a lot shorter.
15:08 sapier maybe I'm biased because mobf doesn't use node code very much
15:08 celeron55 all i can say is programming browser javascript is much saner with the help of jquery as compared to vanilla interfaces; i guess that can apply to MT too
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15:09 sapier ok as browser prorgramming is almost most insane thing  I ever tried I assume you're right in this case
15:11 sapier by the way I assume my scriptapi.cpp split was work to be trashed ?
15:13 celeron55 don't blame me; i'm doing (and have done, and will do) nothing in the repo
15:13 sapier that's been a question not a blame ;-)
15:14 hmmmm it needs to be manually merged
15:14 sapier I assume adding _ will make some changes to scriptapi.cpp so split would need thexyz to merge it to it ... or split to be redone
15:14 thexyz hmm?
15:14 thexyz how's that related?
15:15 sapier didn't you have to change scriptapi.cpp ?
15:15 thexyz it's a standalone mod
15:15 thexyz nope
15:15 sapier ohh ok my fault
15:15 thexyz just plain lua
15:15 sapier as everyone is here atm split merge is time critical as any further progress in minetest would have to be merged to it
15:16 sapier so decision should be done fast in my opinion
15:16 thexyz ask in -dev then
15:17 sapier I did ;-) no one did answer
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15:17 sapier but I'll do again ;-)
15:17 hmmmm maybe if we had some way to hold a vote on issues like this
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15:18 sapier how to do a vote on pull requests?
15:18 hmmmm hmm
15:18 hmmmm forum topic..?
15:18 Kray >open source project
15:18 Kray >democracy
15:18 sapier open source != democracy most cases ;-)
15:18 thexyz i think only committers should vote
15:19 hmmmm well yeah obviously.  most non-committers even know what the changes do
15:19 thexyz with LGTM or something
15:19 Gambit better to have a strong, active release manager
15:19 hmmmm don't even know*
15:20 hmmmm anyway see how celeron stopped chatting when the issue came up?
15:20 sapier I'm with gambit as this ensures some consistent direction
15:20 hmmmm it's abundantly clear (to me at least) that we shouldn't bother asking him for confirmation anymore
15:21 thexyz then we should have some way to add more people with push access to the repo
15:22 sapier someone needs to be "responsible" for what is commited
15:22 thexyz that's usually the guy who merged it
15:22 sapier having right to deny some changes not driving development in correct direction
15:22 hmmmm other open source projects that use github aren't pinned to a single person, they usually have an account for that project
15:22 sapier whatever correct means
15:22 thexyz well, I registered https://github.com/minetest a while ago
15:23 hmmmm and i guess all the 'officers' have access to it
15:24 sapier maybe some group of "top 10" commiters to decide what's added
15:24 celeron55 judging by "top committers" isn't directly good, because that leads to uselessly large amounts of commits because adding 100 commits gets you 100 voting power
15:25 sapier I may have said this missleading "top 10" is of course not enough to decide who should be in there. But that's another discussion I'm currently interested in your personal opinion about the scriptapi.cpp split only?
15:25 celeron55 more like "committers in the last three months"
15:25 celeron55 no matter how small
15:25 sapier with "you" not being celeron only ;-)
15:27 celeron55 < Gambit> better to have a strong, active release manager <- this is true, and i have been passively looking for such a person for like a year already; such just seems to be quite inexistent
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15:28 * ShadowNinja wants to get "[" and "]" working in formspecs, perhaps with escape characters like \, [ and ]
15:29 jin_xi ShadowNinja: i had that problem too
15:29 sapier I assume this'd be a minor change for anyone whith advanced c knowledge
15:30 ShadowNinja maybe minetest.fromspec_escape(string)
15:30 sapier in my opinion this shouldn't be done in lua but directly in c
15:31 jordach i've just come across a very hidden bug, and super rare (in happening cases)
15:31 sapier what is it? ;-)
15:31 ShadowNinja I mean the c should accept escape characters
15:31 jordach type /status
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15:32 jordach uptime= will eventually hit the top number limit
15:32 thexyz won't happen in a lifetime
15:32 sapier isn't it a 32bit value?
15:33 Calinou what if we go back in time to 1970 and start a MT server there
15:33 Calinou we'll reach it in 2038!
15:33 jordach thexyz, just because it wont, doesnt mean it will
15:33 thexyz lol, no
15:33 thexyz Calinou: think floats
15:33 sapier shadowninja it's not a problem of c it'll accept [ to but needs to be considered on evaluating the formspec in order to display the form
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15:34 ShadowNinja do you know where formspec strings are proccessed?
15:35 sapier yes
15:35 ShadowNinja ah found it
15:35 sapier I think it's not very much to do to make escape sequences work
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15:36 jordach morning NekoGloop
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15:36 NekoGloop Meow...
15:36 Kacey Moo
15:37 jordach do ya want good news or the bad news
15:37 NekoGloop Tell me both
15:37 jordach good news: my pc os got an upgrade.
15:37 jordach bad news: its linux
15:37 Kacey how is that bad news?
15:37 jordach because lost compatibility
15:37 NekoGloop How do those two even happen together?
15:38 jin_xi so if palautus is return are tek and plop words too (looking at strfnd.h)?
15:38 jordach because Windows XP support expiry date
15:38 NekoGloop It's not like the support was doing anything anyway...
15:38 * Kacey still has an old dell with XP on it
15:39 Calinou jordach: distro?
15:39 jordach xubuntu
15:39 Calinou XP support expires in end 2014 btw
15:39 * Calinou highfives jordach
15:39 Calinou 12.10?
15:39 jordach 11.10, last disc i had
15:39 Calinou it'll be EOL soon :P
15:39 jordach (ill upgrade later
15:39 jordach )
15:40 jordach also: be careful with the nvidia driver
15:40 jordach anything other than recommended, minetest will only run once before a reboot is needed
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15:41 jordach Gambit, was that a balls up?
15:42 * Calinou uses 313.18 driver from xorg-edgers
15:42 Calinou everything works fine
15:42 Calinou opengl 4.3 support :-D nvidia-current-updates is only at 304.51, opengl 4.2 only
15:43 jordach Calinou, 173 here
15:43 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Gambit's head
15:43 * jordach checks
15:43 Gambit a menu that was over top of the disconnect button closed unexpectedly milliseconds before I tried to click something on the menu :|
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15:44 jordach Calinou, version-current apparently
15:46 * jordach hands NekoGloop an IP
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15:47 NekoGloop Hah, i don't need that.
15:47 * john_minetest magnetizes NekoGloop and puts an iron kitten on NekoGloop's head
15:48 LMfails ah, too bad LandMine's not here. We'd all have such fun
15:49 Calinou jordach: use current-updates :P
15:49 sfan5 this is suspicious
15:49 jordach Calinou, can only run minetest ONCE with it
15:49 LMfails sfan5: hey
15:49 Calinou with both?
15:49 LMfails why did you connect the other day and just leave?
15:49 jordach only current-updates
15:49 Calinou oh
15:49 sfan5 why not?
15:50 jordach Nvidia GeForce 6xxx
15:50 Calinou nvidia-current occasionally hangs up everything for me /P
15:50 Calinou and the updates one doesn't
15:50 Calinou and the xorg-edgers one doesn't too
15:50 Calinou to each his own :P
15:50 john_minetest I use nouveau (open source nvidia driver) now.
15:50 john_minetest And it works for most of the games.
15:50 jordach Calinou, annoyingly, 220fps with openGL#
15:50 sfan5 nouveau! bah
15:50 sfan5 i had to prevent the kernel from running nouveau to even install ubuntu
15:51 sfan5 (nouveau kernel module)
15:51 john_minetest Lol. I had nvidia installed but it always crashed.
15:51 Calinou sfan5: that's because you have a nvidia chipset 8D
15:51 sfan5 ik
15:51 Calinou john_minetest: and your card runs at 2D freqs and no GL 4.3 support? :/
15:52 Calinou nvidia chipsets, the most broken thing after catalyst
15:52 sfan5 i have opengl 4.2
15:52 sfan5 i'm currently updating from nvidia-current to nvidia-current-updated
15:52 sfan5 *updates
15:53 LMfails anyway, so i called up my revolutionary friend
15:53 sfan5 DEBUG:Failure to match Packard Bell with Dell Inc.
15:53 LMfails and he supplied me with some LandMine coordinates
15:53 sfan5 you don't say?
15:53 LMfails which means fun will be had
15:54 Kacey coords are 78.134.137.202
15:54 LMfails o noes
15:54 LMfails wat eva shall i do nao
15:54 sfan5 !up 78.134.137.202
15:54 MinetestBot 78.134.137.202:30000 seems to be down
15:55 Kacey /whois LMfails
15:55 LMfails call the internet police, right away
15:55 john_minetest Minetest runs on 30-60 fps with nouveau here. 512 MB nvidia graphics.
15:55 john_minetest Calinou ^
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15:57 Calinou 20-30FPS here, 570GTX, with nvidia 300+FPS easy
15:57 Calinou VRAM has nothing to do with performance today, it's a commercial argument
15:57 Calinou my 570 (1280MB) pwns your 630M (2048MB) ;)
15:58 john_minetest Calinou: It seems to depend on the chip, i think. With nvidia I always had less then 30 fps. With nouveau up to 60.
15:59 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaGtvNg/screenshot_216866000.png floating sand ^_^
15:59 sfan5 time to restart my computer
15:59 Calinou john_minetest: nouveau can only reclock some 9xxx series cards (4 years old)
15:59 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit smoking
16:00 Calinou only card where it is actually competitive is the 9800GTX, makes so much noise and eats 200 watts easily
16:00 Calinou and fermi/kepler reclocking seems to be harder than ever so we're definitely not getting it :>
16:01 john_minetest Calinou: NVIDIA Corporation G86 [Quadro NVS 140M]
16:01 john_minetest (Laptop graphics)
16:02 Calinou mobile + quadro, epic combination :D
16:04 * jordach pokes NekoGloop
16:04 * Calinou puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head
16:04 jordach NekoGloop isnt running iOS 6.1.x
16:04 NekoGloop Calinou: I don't want it, talk to MinetestBot, he likes kittens.
16:04 jordach "iPhone OS 6.0.1 (ARM)"
16:05 * Kacey likes kittens (they taste good)
16:05 sfan5 D:
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16:05 LMfails sfan5: so why did you stay just a day?
16:06 sfan5 i don't know what you mean
16:06 LMfails *second
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16:06 LMfails sfan5: you joined like two days ago, only to immediately leave
16:06 sfan5 yeah
16:07 jordach whats sfan5 done this time?
16:07 LMfails nothing
16:07 LMfails why "this time"?
16:08 LMfails anyway, we gon have us some vigilante justice now, yeeehaw
16:09 * john_minetest puts a kitten on LMfails' head
16:09 * LMfails rips it to shreads
16:10 LMfails that's right, imgurian
16:10 john_minetest D:<
16:11 john_minetest My picture card controller is funny. That's why it is an xD-Picture Card controller: 15:00.5 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 11)
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16:16 Calinou so directx is sad? it's DX.
16:17 Kacey thexyz, /kick LMfails or something please
16:18 LMfails why?
16:22 LMfails Kacey: there was this shepherd boy
16:22 LMfails he had a few sheep that he'd take out to pasture
16:22 Kacey i know
16:22 LMfails and while they grazed, he was bored
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16:22 LMfails so he cried "Woolf, woolf!"
16:23 LMfails and the villagers ran up the hill
16:23 LMfails to his aid. Torches, pitchforks and everything.
16:23 LMfails Oh how he LAUGHED and laughed
16:23 LMfails Then the other day he god bored again. So he cried "Woolf, Woolf!", and the villagers came to his aid
16:23 LMfails but there was no wolf this time either
16:23 LMfails and so he laughed, and he laughed
16:24 LMfails one day
16:24 LMfails the woolf came
16:24 LMfails was kicked by Calinou: cool story bro
16:24 Calinou or, "belle histoire, frère"
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16:24 LMfails and he panicked, started calling "Woolf, woolf!". But nobody came
16:24 LMfails The end.
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16:25 LMfails Calinou: good guy villager.
16:27 artur99 whats difference between Moding General and Mod Relases?
16:27 Calinou mod releases: "approved" mods by moderators and admins
16:28 Calinou modding general: talk about mods here, and unapproved mods are here too
16:28 artur99 aha
16:28 artur99 where to request adding a mod on server? Or just direct talking?
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16:33 LMfails i miss cisoun
16:33 jordach can someone mute LMfails?
16:33 jordach or justa +q
16:34 LMfails jordach: okay...
16:34 Calinou artur99: just reply on the server's thread ;)
16:34 LMfails jordach: this isn't #minetest-dev, you know?
16:34 jordach okay mijyn, we get it
16:35 LMfails ?
16:36 LMfails jordach: who is mijyn, and what is it that you're getting (from where i'm sitting not a lot)?
16:40 VanessaE good morning all.
16:40 LMfails hey
16:40 MinetestBot hi LMfails
16:41 LMfails VanessaE: who's darkrose?
16:41 VanessaE A modder and a core contributor to the project.
16:41 VanessaE and generally a nice person.  why?
16:50 MiJyn 09:35] <jordach> okay mijyn, we get it
16:50 MiJyn whtat?
16:50 MiJyn *what
16:50 MiJyn [09:37] <LMfails> jordach: who is mijyn
16:50 MiJyn ME! xD
16:56 LMfails VanessaE: didn't see her around for like a year
16:57 LMfails awww what happened to LM's tree?
16:57 LMfails i guess griefers get griefed
16:58 LMfails i sure hope LandMine does something (about his character) for this fire not to spread to the chest
16:58 LMfails and then to his beach house
16:58 LMfails and i'd hate to see something happen to his glass pyramid
17:04 LMfails mybad, it spread to his chest
17:05 LMfails tried to stop it
17:05 LMfails but that's what happens when you play with fire
17:06 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to celeron55/minetest: Tweak buildbot 035933f806 2013-01-23T10:42:46-08:00 http://git.io/cf8BHA
17:09 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Fix texture glitch when digging junglegrass 67fa74ac01 2013-01-15T11:30:55-08:00 http://git.io/woE48w
17:09 hmmmm oh yeah
17:09 hmmmm you're probably going to have to fix MinetestBot after this
17:10 hmmmm everybody, it's minetest/minetest anymore, not celeron55/minetest, you need to update your links
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17:16 LMfails pics to come
17:16 LMfails for everyone's enjoyment
17:16 LMfails bye
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17:17 MinetestBot GIT: jojoa1997 commited to celeron55/minetest_game: makes wood doors craftable from wood group 86cff038a4 2013-02-12T12:46:03-08:00 http://git.io/hBddDw
17:17 artur99 can i try to make an android app with a Minetest Guide?
17:18 Kacey im thinking about pulling a small naming change to minetest_game
17:18 Kacey instead of steel, iron
17:18 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to celeron55/minetest: Merge pull request #505 from RealBadAngel/master 9bd76f2972 2013-02-23T18:06:07-08:00 http://git.io/Dbfi-Q
17:18 VanessaE no, steel
17:18 VanessaE you change it to iron and it breaks a LOT of recipes
17:19 Kacey iron lumps make iron ingots which can be re-cooked to get steel
17:19 VanessaE that moght work.
17:19 VanessaE might*
17:19 artur99 Kacey, were u talking to me?
17:19 Kacey no
17:19 Kacey anyone
17:33 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rssnotify
17:33 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'rssnotify' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/rssnotify.py'> (version: 2013-02-24 17:33:30)
17:33 sfan5 hmmmm: links in minetestbot updatex
17:33 sfan5 *updated
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17:36 rubenwardy hi all
17:36 MinetestBot hi rubenwardy
17:37 jordach PilzAdam, can i have a word?
17:37 PilzAdam hm?
17:37 jordach to -mods
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17:45 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp;feature=endscreen&amp;v=wLgCew5m6KM wish rba made the computer mod already
17:55 rubenwardy is it me, or is there a lot of newbie spam on the forum?
17:55 jordach yup
17:56 jordach not to mention the forums app is just a web browser without the buttons
17:56 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Update buildbot 92c7bd02fb 2013-02-24T09:52:44-08:00 http://git.io/jTTErw
17:56 jordach (i've made them before.)
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18:01 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/uFuwRlV.png whats wrong with this picture? ;)
18:01 * Calinou remembers the font from another game
18:02 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Update README 230747c748 2013-02-24T10:01:10-08:00 http://git.io/anCLdg
18:04 MinetestBot GIT: Jeija commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Bugfix: Also deactivate the block two below when digging a pressure plate 2848df007e 2013-02-24T10:03:28-08:00 http://git.io/wWty8w
18:06 jordach why/
18:09 Kacey rba: am/ pm?
18:10 VanessaE RealBadAngel: why'd you break the light on the lever?
18:10 MinetestBot GIT: Jeija commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Don't totally force deactivation of block two below the pressure plate if connected to a receptor e707afef1a 2013-02-24T10:09:07-08:00 http://git.io/xvAO-Q
18:10 jin_xi its upside down, duh
18:11 VanessaE oh that's just wrong
18:11 VanessaE I completely forgot about the full rotation thing
18:11 RealBadAngel indeed, its rotated nodebox :)
18:11 VanessaE well obviously you got texture rotation working along that axis
18:12 RealBadAngel im still fighting with it, it i was allowed to use ^transform with nodeboxes it would be already finished
18:13 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp;feature=endscreen&amp;v=wLgCew5m6KM rba
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18:28 jin_xi RealBadAngel: i think i'll merge treegen editor and axiom generator thing using your multitool. but what kind of tool could that be?
18:28 RealBadAngel idk
18:29 jin_xi treegun?
18:29 sfan5 yes
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18:54 Vadtec2 hi all
18:54 MinetestBot hi Vadtec2
18:54 Vadtec2 :P
18:54 Vadtec2 silly MinetestBot
18:55 Vadtec2 anyone active?
18:55 Vadtec2 well, anyone who codes LUA
18:55 jin_xi its lua
18:56 jin_xi hi Vadtec2
18:56 Vadtec2 im wanting to add a command to worldedit that allows me to simply provide a way to set the pos1/2 by giving x,y,z
18:57 Vadtec2 but im not sure if its even possible
18:58 jin_xi i think it should be doable
19:01 ShadowNinja Vadtec2 quite doable, do you want //pos1 x,y,z ?
19:01 Vadtec2 ShadowNinja, basically, yes
19:02 Vadtec2 im just not sure how to create the pos object
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19:03 Kacey ShadowNinja, i had an awesome idea pn your server
19:03 Kacey on*
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19:04 Kacey hi sapier1
19:04 ShadowNinja what was it?
19:05 Kacey a sorting machine
19:05 Kacey come see
19:10 Vadtec2 ShadowNinja, so any info?
19:11 ShadowNinja yes, just finished, testing
19:12 Vadtec2 ShadowNinja, ah, if you point me in the right direction i can do the rest
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19:15 jfu hi guys, just found out about this project.
19:16 sfan5 hello
19:16 MinetestBot hi sfan5
19:16 sfan5 -.-
19:16 jfu ive never played minecraft before but wanted to try out minetest to get a feel what it was all about
19:16 jfu any server to recommend joining?
19:17 Kacey menche.servegame.com
19:17 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Update Copyright Years 6d0ea26c2d 2013-02-24T11:15:24-08:00 http://git.io/nCSDrQ
19:17 sfan5 no,no
19:17 sfan5 where can i find a minetest server?
19:17 MinetestBot sfan5: http://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?id=10 and http://servers.minetest.ru
19:17 sfan5 ^  jfu
19:18 jfu yeah but i want to see things people have built and stuff. a server list doesnt tell me much about the actual content
19:18 Kacey try them all
19:18 john_minetest sfan5: your bot is good in theory but it fails in real life :D
19:18 jfu Kacey: ill try the one you said to begin with =)
19:18 sfan5 john_minetest: ik
19:19 jfu i just need to compile it first, im building from git at the moment
19:19 Kacey ok
19:21 RealBadAngel very funny stuff in nodeboxes: i put there counter to see how many times with one nodebox my code to rotate texture is called
19:21 jfu there done, im waiting for it to load. the media seem to take a while =)
19:21 Vadtec2 ShadowNinja, ping me when yer done
19:22 RealBadAngel for one nodebox, where certain rotation shall be used 6 times exactly, code is exececuted, 30, 11, 6, 1 or any other random numebr
19:22 ShadowNinja Vadtec: replace WorldEdit_commands/init.lua with this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5562580/
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19:23 jfu really a game like minecraft is the perfect example of a game that could work as a open source projects so great initiative
19:24 sfan5 yeah
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19:24 Vadtec2 ShadowNinja, thanks
19:25 jfu ah there we go, now ill go play
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19:26 ShadowNinja sfan5: can you add servers.minetest.net to the list that the bot returns?
19:26 sfan5 yes
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19:33 Vadtec2 ShadowNinja, see, now i know how to make the necessary objects :P thanks
19:33 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Update Copyright Years 6d0ea26c2d 2013-02-24T11:15:24-08:00 http://git.io/nCSDrQ
19:33 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Update README 230747c748 2013-02-24T10:01:10-08:00 http://git.io/anCLdg
19:33 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Fix styling issues in Chat Commands.md 34c4475d06 2013-02-23T00:35:16-08:00 http://git.io/kVkDgw
19:33 ShadowNinja you're welcome
19:34 sfan5 could someone please write !test
19:34 ShadowNinja !test
19:34 jin_xi ShadowNinja: did you find a fix for [ and ] in formspecs?
19:34 ShadowNinja no
19:34 ShadowNinja it will not be \[ tho
19:34 sfan5 could someone please write !server
19:35 jin_xi !server
19:35 sfan5 minetestbot seems to have crashed
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19:35 sfan5 jin_xi: now again please
19:36 ShadowNinja !server
19:36 jordach !server
19:36 MinetestBot jordach: Dwarves' Kingdom | 95.84.168.231:30000   up (83.997%)
19:36 MinetestBot ShadowNinja: [0.4.3] LAD's creative server 24/7 | minetest.org:30006   up (98.438%)
19:36 sfan5 thank you
19:36 jordach so i get first dibs over everyone else, awesome
19:36 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit eating rainbows
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19:44 jfu Kacey: thx for the help. that was cool
19:45 jfu the client was really quick to render, even though im on linux
19:46 Vadtec2 is there a way to convert mesecons power to technic power?
19:46 jfu who is the developer behind this?
19:46 PilzAdam Vadtec2, the problem is that mesecon signals are infinte
19:46 PilzAdam and technic mod has real power
19:47 PilzAdam jfu, mesecons is developed by Jeija, technic by RealBadAngel
19:47 Vadtec2 PilzAdam, infinite? i just ran a length of it and it only went like 32 blocks before it stopped transmitting
19:47 sfan5 My Minetest built-in video recorder works again \o/
19:48 jfu mesecons? technic?
19:48 PilzAdam Vadtec2, you just have to place a torch to get a signal in mesecons
19:48 RealBadAngel mesecons signals are just TTL (logic signals)
19:48 PilzAdam but in technic you need water turbines, solar panels etc.
19:49 sapier1 has anyone recently noticed a 3d terrain isn't very pathfinding friendly?
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19:50 jfu sapier1: what algorithm are you using?
19:50 sapier1 A* but doesn't work for multiple layers
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19:51 sapier I try to find a way to create multi-layer cost maps but atm I didn't find a good way
19:51 * sfan5 is going to restart his computer
19:52 Vadtec2 PilzAdam, you sure mesecon is infinite? i seriously have 1 watergen hooked up, and its most certainly not infinite
19:52 sapier the only idea atm is create multiple weight maps for each height level within check range
19:52 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit eating my cake
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19:52 jfu sapier: i would assume you just give larger cost for up/down movement compared to sideways  and A* should fix the rest for you....
19:53 sapier no doesn't as A* assumes a flat map
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19:54 sapier it doesn't work for bridges
19:55 sapier unless ... hmm
19:55 jfu i think A* can be used for 3D too. i read that a while back. it is just i graph with weights so for each point you need to calculate the cost. up/down would be larger, same as for going through water
19:56 * ShadowNinja has to reompile everything because a comment was changed
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19:57 jfu when i said point i ment node
19:58 sapier I know I do it exactly this way ... but i prepare a weight map before calculation to avoid having to fetch all data from core on each step ... which is plain slow ... without this preparation it might work ... still I'd have no way to check quality of result
19:59 * ShadowNinja has been spoiled by lua
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20:08 Kacey ShadowNinja, i found banana trees on my recent adventure
20:08 Kacey i planted them ^_^
20:09 PilzAdam bye
20:09 sfan5 if i use ffmpeg to record minetest with my 1st (weak) video card, it runs out of video mem and minetest doesn't display blocks
20:10 sfan5 using minemovie i can record a smooth video of minetest with my 1st video card
20:10 sfan5 like this: http://ompldr.org/vaGtzYQ/movie.mp4
20:11 sfan5 note: some quality is lost, because i converted the file so i can upload it
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20:11 Kacey i cant see it...
20:12 sfan5 what?
20:13 Kacey i cannot view the movie...
20:13 sfan5 you don't have a browser plugin that supports mp4 ?
20:13 sfan5 try vlc
20:14 Kacey i use chromium
20:14 sfan5 Kacey: download the file and view it in vlc
20:15 Kacey where is the dl link?
20:16 sfan5 http://ompldr.org/iaGtzYQ
20:17 sfan5 right click "movie.mp4" select save link as..
20:17 john_minetest Where can I find minemovie?
20:17 MinetestBot john_minetest: http://www.minetest.net/download.php  Please note that it is recommend to compile Minetest yourself if you use GNU/Linux
20:18 Kacey You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins
20:18 sfan5 hm
20:18 sfan5 john_minetest: https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/tree/minemovie
20:19 sfan5 john_minetest: it only creates png's you need http://www.randelshofer.ch/monte/files/demos/MovieMaker.jar to convert them to a video file
20:19 Kacey using Parole media player
20:19 john_minetest sfan5: Wow, I'd love to see the recording feature upstream. Perfect for Let's players.
20:19 ShadowNinja ok, now [ and ] are working in formspecs, at least partialy
20:20 sfan5 it doesn't record audio yet
20:21 sfan5 also if your ram gets full and you don't press f8 minetest crashes and you lost everything
20:21 john_minetest What isn't there yet can come later ;)
20:21 sfan5 i should add an fps limit
20:22 sfan5 less fps -> ram gets full slower
20:22 john_minetest Having a bulit-in recorder could boost the number of minetest-videos on youtube and rise the attention of the public.
20:22 john_minetest </market-analyst>
20:22 sfan5 i can record a 1000 frame movie with 4gb  ram fine
20:23 john_minetest With 60 fps => 16 seconds :D
20:23 sfan5 resulting video file of 1000 frames -> ~ 450 mb O.O
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20:24 john_minetest With 24fps it would be 41 seconds
20:26 sfan5 thats something
20:30 * sfan5 just recorded 1700 frames and crashed the window manager
20:30 sfan5 lets try that again
20:33 sfan5 i recorded 1534 frames and forgot about the fact that rendering the images also needs ram
20:33 sfan5 lets try that again
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20:35 mauvebic vanessa you might find my bridge looks like an apple store (barf) though the engineering is true to form :p
20:36 sfan5 rendering 1172 frames succeded \o/
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20:41 VanessaE mauvebic: what bridge?
20:41 mauvebic enterprises'
20:41 VanessaE OH on the ships
20:42 VanessaE well it's fine as long as it's on the 1701-prime :-)
20:42 ShadowNinja [ and ] are escaped in formspecs with &( and &) now
20:42 VanessaE you put that on the original 1701 and you're gonna have to answer for your crimes to the whole of the Star Trek fanbase ;)
20:42 mauvebic the D actually lol i made it look less "loungy"
20:42 VanessaE heh
20:43 VanessaE I wonder what the -D would look like if the timeline of Star Trek 2009 were extended into TNG's time period
20:43 mauvebic besides practically everything on the real bridge is diagonally inclined (terminals, furniture, etc. lol)
20:43 mauvebic well with the alternate time line thing they can pick up any of the series and do them better/different
20:43 VanessaE nu so lets see some screenshots alreasdy
20:44 mauvebic 6 here : http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=72509#p72509
20:44 VanessaE already there
20:45 VanessaE just grabbed all the forum threads as usual
20:45 mauvebic now that ive' laid the conduits, i gotta get pipeworks to power stuff lol
20:45 VanessaE the "retconned bridge" looks more like Engineering without the 'pool table'
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20:46 mauvebic wasnt much i could do with the clearance i got on deck 1 lol
20:46 VanessaE I mean the width
20:46 VanessaE it looks like a hallway :-)
20:46 mauvebic the room is quite round but with the incline of the outer hull, it doesn't look it from the inside lol
20:46 VanessaE I don't recall the -D having a hallway behind the bridge :)
20:46 jordach there we go, i found a way to make unlimited water sources indefinitely expand
20:47 jordach *THIS ALSO GOES FOR LAVA*
20:47 VanessaE nice job on the warp drive though
20:47 mauvebic actually they never showed the whole of deck 1, seemed like the turbolifts kept changing doors every season lol
20:47 VanessaE haha
20:48 mauvebic i think even the battle bridge changed decks a few times lol so were taking some creative license here
20:48 VanessaE yeah it did actually
20:48 VanessaE deck 7 once, 13 another time I think
20:49 mauvebic i definately need to do flow booster otherwise the ship will need 4 cores evenly spread out lol
20:49 Kacey i want to see and help if i can
20:50 mauvebic meh, i dont open up my servers, FPS is low enough without having to protect against griefers and forget to do backups lol
20:51 VanessaE you should at least share .we/.wem files of your models/blueprints
20:51 * jordach installs emacs
20:51 mauvebic im thinking of either posting maps or blueprints for some of the nicer converts
20:52 OldCoder I am taking my laptop for repair but I will return later
20:52 mauvebic as for .wep i asked for samples a few times and got nothing so someone else can write the blueprint /wep converter :p
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20:53 mauvebic i could prolly release cbp's and and a standalone cpp spawner
20:54 Kacey can you upload the map?
20:54 mauvebic my main map?
20:54 VanessaE yeahm why not?
20:54 VanessaE just upload it to somewhere and let people download and play in it
20:54 VanessaE no griefing that way
20:54 mauvebic jesus
20:54 mauvebic 564mb
20:55 mauvebic wonder how much that would be in zip lol
20:55 ShadowNinja formspecs arn't corrupted by [ or ] now
20:58 mauvebic zipped its 241 lol not so bad
20:59 mauvebic any reports of dblocks from ompldr today? lol
21:01 sfan5 mauvebic, VanessaE: i'm working on a binary format for worldedit schematic (without metadata)
21:01 sfan5 and now i'm going to bed
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21:02 mauvebic no metas and no facedirs presumably?
21:04 mauvebic though having worked with binary formats i can tells ya: it saves spaces, but not time
21:05 mauvebic the main deal w/ large blueprints is the time it takes to add all the nodes
21:05 mauvebic and the format doesn't really matter so long as you dont load the *whole* thing to memory
21:05 sapier size is more relevant for resources transfered from server to client, e.g. models
21:06 ShadowNinja help on how I could improve this: https://github.com/ShadowNinja/minetest/compare/brackets_in_formspecs
21:08 mauvebic and weather its readable blueprints or binary ones the trick is to break up spawning into chunks (roughly a million nodes each is best)
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21:16 mauvebic mind you its next to near impossible to save multimillion-node blueprints ingame
21:16 mauvebic better off using the mapper for that
21:22 Kacey ShadowNinja, is carts installed on your server?
21:27 ShadowNinja Kacey: no, and bbl
21:30 Deivan Someone please splain to me how the "chance" option work in the minetest.register_abm function...
21:31 Deivan I put decimal values, I but big values, don't is working to me... :-/
21:31 Deivan Is a 1/n chance, correct?
21:32 VanessaE it is indeed 1/n
21:32 Kacey yes
21:32 VanessaE so lower numbers give a better chance of something happening
21:32 VanessaE interval is a measure of real-world seconds
21:33 Deivan Ok, then if I put 500 is the chance of 1 to 500 but the event is more like 100%...  -.-
21:34 VanessaE 1 in 500 chance every time the ABM executes.
21:34 Deivan Using one interval of 5 I have a event in less than 30 seconds...  -.-
21:34 Deivan With the value 500...
21:34 Deivan :-/
21:34 Deivan How value I use to make a rare thing?
21:34 Deivan 1.000.000 ?
21:35 VanessaE probably an interval of around 10, chance of 10,000
21:35 VanessaE that's what I'd call rare anyway
21:35 Deivan Ok.  :D
21:35 Deivan Another question, in the game API have a random generator?
21:36 Deivan Maybe I test myself the chances...
21:36 VanessaE yes  https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1283
21:36 Deivan Thanks.
21:36 Deivan :)
21:37 VanessaE .
21:38 VanessaE oops
21:41 Vadtec2 hrm... pilzadam said mesecons signals are infinite...but in what im using they arent
21:41 VanessaE they are, but the game has a limit to how far it'll send a mesecons signal, because it limits how much of the map is "active" at any one time
21:42 VanessaE I think the default is 3 mapblocks from the player
21:42 Vadtec2 but its within viewing distance
21:42 VanessaE doesn't matter
21:42 VanessaE viewing distance by default is like 15 mapblocks or something
21:43 Kacey bbiab
21:43 Vadtec2 so is there a repeater that will make it extend further?
21:43 Vadtec2 or will i have to drop more powerplants around
21:43 VanessaE it's not mesecons that's the issue
21:44 VanessaE you just have to increase your active block range
21:44 Vadtec2 how do i do that? edit some code?
21:44 VanessaE naw, it's a config option
21:44 VanessaE I forget what it is offhand though
21:44 ShadowNinja active_block_range = 2
21:44 VanessaE check minetest.conf.exam....that's the one
21:45 Deivan Maybe this make your game little heavy...  :D
21:45 Vadtec2 so what distance is asinine for MT? cause i wanna set it to 255 or more :P
21:45 VanessaE 255 would be insane :-)
21:45 VanessaE try setting it for 10 and hope your computer doesn't melt :D
21:45 ShadowNinja can someone look at this and offer sugestions please https://github.com/ShadowNinja/minetest/compare/brackets_in_formspecs
21:46 ShadowNinja lol
21:46 Vadtec2 my pc wont melt, though mt might
21:46 VanessaE the higher you set it, the more CPU power you'll need to compensate :)
21:46 Vadtec2 i have a liquid cooled CPU and ram block
21:46 ShadowNinja (255*16)^3 hmmm
21:46 Vadtec2 im fine :P
21:47 Vadtec2 plus i have dual 120mm fans on the case
21:47 Vadtec2 it gets quite noisy at times
21:47 Vadtec2 but its worth it
21:47 VanessaE well so your CPU will stay cool, but if all you've got under all that equipment is an anemic little Athlon........;)
21:59 Vadtec2 its a phenom x6 @ 3.2ghz
21:59 Vadtec2 it will survive
22:00 VanessaE ok :)
22:01 Kacey back
22:01 MinetestBot Welcome back Kacey!
22:09 Kacey anyone on?
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22:41 MiJyn Kacey, I think we're all dead
22:41 MiJyn except for me
22:42 MiJyn I'm the only survivor of IRC silence
22:42 MiJyn I'm dying though
22:42 * Menche dies
22:42 Menche *crickets*
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22:43 LMfails http://imgur.com/a/ilWJc
22:44 MiJyn Menche, sad music playing
22:44 MiJyn you know why #ubuntu has 3 floodbots, right?
22:44 MiJyn just in case anyone goes silent, it can't afford to let all those people die
22:44 MiJyn so yeah
22:45 LMfails those tops are gone now too in case you're wondering
22:45 LMfails pretty nasty looking area now
22:45 LMfails cya
22:46 Menche someone countertrolling landmine?
22:48 Kacey idk
22:49 STHGOM bye
23:11 VanessaE zzz
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23:14 NekoGloop|Laptop w00t laptop
23:14 NekoGloop|Laptop :3
23:15 MiJyn haha
23:17 NekoGloop|Laptop I have to get used to having a mousepad
23:17 VanessaE no more ipad? :)
23:17 jin_xi hey all, http://ompldr.org/vaGt1cg/treegen.zip this is treegen editor and axiom generator rolled into one multitool
23:17 jin_xi needs idea for texture
23:17 NekoGloop|Laptop Still have the ipad. Just have a laptop as well
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23:19 NekoGloop|Laptop And thus begins "The thousand ways to hate Windows 8"
23:19 VanessaE heh
23:19 VanessaE install Xubuntu and life will be good :-)
23:19 VanessaE all will be right with the world
23:20 Kacey lol windows 8 sux
23:20 NekoGloop|Laptop actually it's just the start menu; and that'll just take some getting used to.
23:20 Menche windows 8 doesn't have windows
23:20 Menche it's wm is all fullscreen
23:20 NekoGloop|Laptop So please excuse me if I turn my laptop off by accident.
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23:23 NekoGloop|Laptop So what's everyone up to?
23:23 VanessaE nuthin'
23:23 Kacey watching youtube
23:23 VanessaE NekoGloop|Laptop: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4904
23:23 VanessaE already supported by HDX :)
23:25 MuLiSz is there a depth limit in Minetest? (sry for my english)
23:25 paxcoder does JChuckZ come around?
23:25 Menche -30912
23:25 VanessaE -30927 or some such
23:25 MuLiSz O.o
23:25 MinetestBot MuLiSz: What are you wondering about?
23:25 VanessaE (routinely, we just say +/- "31000")
23:26 MuLiSz Nothing... I'm just digging
23:26 VanessaE sfan5|OFF: aw come on, o.O does NOT mean wonder - it means confusion...please shut that damn thing up
23:26 Menche lol
23:26 MuLiSz btw thanks
23:27 paxcoder -_~ <- wonder
23:28 paxcoder i -_~ where JChuckZ is
23:28 paxcoder my cursor just transformed into a pillar. seriously o.O
23:29 MuLiSz O.o
23:29 MinetestBot MuLiSz: What are you wondering about?
23:29 * Menche hugs MinetestBot
23:29 MinetestBot Menche:  :D
23:29 paxcoder MuLiSz, i'd prtscr, but on the scrsht it looks normal. *shrugs*
23:29 paxcoder i can click with the top of the pillar
23:29 paxcoder normal again
23:30 NekoGloop|Laptop paxcoder: new to text input?
23:30 paxcoder XD
23:30 paxcoder good one, i have to give you that one
23:31 paxcoder but seriously it was 4 cursors high, and i don't mean the bar. It was like a column of little pointers
23:31 paxcoder about 16 in all
23:31 NekoGloop|Laptop You cannot grasp the true form of cursor's attack!
23:32 NekoGloop|Laptop Sadly this little 15lbs laptop IS BETTER THAN MY PC.
23:32 NekoGloop|Laptop THE HELL IS THIS SHIT. >.<
23:32 VanessaE but can it handle HDX? ;)
23:32 NekoGloop|Laptop It can prolly handle HDX 128x
23:33 NekoGloop|Laptop The ultimate stress test shall come with MC.
23:34 NekoGloop|Laptop Because I'm an idiot, do 32-bit programs run on 64-bit systems?
23:34 Menche if the right libraries are installed, yes
23:36 VanessaE ouch!  512px has grown enough that I can't use it at all anymore - not enough RAM!
23:36 VanessaE (and I have 4 GB)
23:36 NekoGloop|Laptop I think I have 4 GB ram as well... Not sure.
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23:38 Kacey 1gb here :(
23:38 NekoGloop|Laptop That's better, hexchat.
23:41 Menche trying to run minecraft on my netbook
23:41 Menche the start screen has low fps
23:45 Menche sloooow
23:46 Kacey lol
23:46 Menche my netbook can barely run the menu
23:46 * Menche closes minecraft and opens minetest
23:47 Kacey lol
23:47 Kacey i have the same netbook :P
23:47 Menche full FPS with almost full grahics settings, vs. low FPS on the main menu. hmm...
23:48 Menche which to play..
23:48 FreeFull =P
23:48 FreeFull Because minecraft is java shit
23:49 Menche minecraft.net's servers are "working a bit too hard, please check back later"
23:50 NekoGloop|Laptop That reminds me, I need to set up my favorites in Chrome.
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23:52 * VanessaE wonders why hardly anyone plays on her server anymore :(
23:53 NekoGloop|Laptop I'd play on it, but I'd have to a) download minetest and b) not have shit to do.
23:54 VanessaE well (a) is easy enough to solve.  (b), well..that's up to you
23:55 OldCoder Hi
23:55 MinetestBot hi OldCoder
23:55 OldCoder It is nice to hear from you Mr. Bot
23:55 VanessaE wb OldCoder
23:55 NekoGloop|Laptop Hey, my laptop has the same screen resolution as my PC's monitor.
23:56 OldCoder ty VanessaE

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