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00:03 Vadtec ha
00:03 Vadtec theres a credit for 2 days of service on my account
00:03 Vadtec good call on their part
00:05 mauvebic mine changed hands to a new company and they tried to bill me for 3 months id already paid lol didn't take long to whip out confirmation #s lol
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00:05 Vadtec the only time i have issues with this ISP is when this idiot tech comes around
00:05 Vadtec he has *never* worked on anything that he hasnt screwed up
00:05 Vadtec and i mean never
00:06 Vadtec there is *always* one person within 30 houses of me that has problems after he is out here
00:09 mauvebic we actually had a problem around here with fake repairment screwing around with heating/cooling then charging people to fix what they broke lol
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00:18 frogcrush Good afternoon, everyone
00:18 MiJyn hi frogcrush
00:34 Vadtec hrm
00:34 Vadtec chunk loading is still glitchy for me
00:35 Vadtec if me and both my kids play, it doesnt like to rez chunks far from each other
00:38 Vadtec its really weird
00:44 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to celeron55/minetest: Merge pull request #431 from sapier/dtime_clamping f9a8efb992 2013-02-22T16:42:50-08:00 http://git.io/U5ka3A
00:46 Menche it announces commits!
00:46 Menche thank you MinetestBot
00:46 MinetestBot Menche: Although i'm only a bot I appreciate your thanks.
00:46 Menche lol
00:46 hmmmm !calc
00:46 hmmmm .calc
00:47 Menche oh, that one was commited
00:47 Menche don't have to do it manually, yaay
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00:48 sdzen so jordan4ibanez whats fake?
00:48 jin_xi !c 1 + 1
00:48 jordan4ibanez wat
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00:50 Kacey ...
00:50 Kacey Menche's server wont accept my client...
00:50 sdzen whats your client?
00:50 sdzen latest gite?
00:51 Menche Kacey: what does it say?
00:51 sdzen or stable as a mofo?
00:51 Kacey protocal version
00:51 sdzen den yo is stable as a mofo
00:51 Menche im on latest git as of this moring
00:51 sdzen get the latest gite
00:51 Kacey i am
00:51 Menche *morning
00:53 Kacey compiling now...
00:56 ShadowNinja Menche: do you know what I have to do to get my server to show up on the list? I have latest git and filled out the settings in the conf
00:57 ShadowNinja RealBadAngel: are you available?
00:57 RealBadAngel hi
00:57 MinetestBot hi RealBadAngel
00:57 NekoGloop RealBadAngel, could you link to the dependencies of technic in the technic topic?
00:57 jin_xi hi RealBadAngel
00:57 ShadowNinja can you come on my server now?
00:57 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, ok
00:58 RealBadAngel ShadowNinja, ip?
00:58 Menche ShadowNinja: i had to double-check the settings in -game and restart a few times
00:58 ShadowNinja !up 67.241.154.164
00:58 MinetestBot 67.241.154.164:30000 is up (0.228ms)
01:00 Menche ShadowNinja: this is the relevant section from my minetest.conf. modify it as needed
01:00 Menche http://pastebin.com/nGwU1mzi
01:01 Menche use /set in-game to verify that "server_announce" is set
01:01 Menche i had to restart a few times
01:03 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm6df_SExVw
01:04 * Menche hates youtube ads
01:05 Vadtec in pipeworks, is there a pipe equivelant to the obsidian tube from buildcraft?
01:05 Vadtec basically, it sucks up items near it
01:05 jordan4ibanez RealBadAngel, can I try your computer?
01:06 RealBadAngel not yet, its not in usable state
01:06 Kacey not much longer tough
01:06 Kacey though*
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01:11 jordan4ibanez GIMME DAH PC
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01:12 Kacey jordan4ibanez, when i get it, i will make a server so we can try together
01:13 jordan4ibanez yay
01:13 jordan4ibanez Can i serialize a table?
01:13 NekoGloop No.
01:13 jordan4ibanez Can I have cereal on the table?
01:13 Menche No.
01:13 jordan4ibanez aw
01:15 RealBadAngel ofc you can serialize a table
01:15 Kacey jordan4ibanez, are you 313hummer on youtube?
01:15 jordan4ibanez Yep
01:16 * khonkhortisan downloads commonlib
01:16 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/blob/master/technic/helpers.lua
01:17 RealBadAngel im storing tables in items "metadata" string
01:19 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/blob/master/technic/mining_drill.lua#L220
01:21 ShadowNinja Menche: is still doesn't work, doesn't appear to be the conf
01:21 jordan4ibanez How do I have a command run on the server halting?
01:21 Menche in-game, run "/set server_announce"
01:22 Menche does it say 1 or 0?
01:22 ShadowNinja I did, it said it was 1
01:22 Menche ok
01:22 Menche when you start the server, the console should say something about announcing
01:22 ShadowNinja it doesn't
01:23 Menche try restarting again? it took a few tries for mine to work
01:23 ShadowNinja guess I will try to find the answer in the code
01:23 ShadowNinja restarted a few times
01:23 jordan4ibanez I'm guessing there is no on_server_halt command?
01:23 jordan4ibanez command=lua api
01:23 Menche jordan4ibanez: i think there is something like that
01:23 ShadowNinja on_shutdown I think
01:24 jin_xi https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L811
01:24 jordan4ibanez ok thank you
01:25 ShadowNinja I think I know what it is...
01:25 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELywayae6gQ
01:25 Menche did you specify a port after the address? im not sure if its needed but when i wasn't using a port when it didn't work
01:26 Menche lol i butchered the grammar there
01:26 Menche ignore the first "when"
01:26 jordan4ibanez That sentence is amazing
01:26 Vadtec anyone use worldedit? if so, how the heck do i replace air with stone? nothing ive tried is working
01:26 jordan4ibanez All of your base are belong to us.
01:27 Menche Vadtec: //replace air stone
01:27 Menche did you select an area?
01:27 Vadtec Menche: it said zero blocks replaced, and i know what i want to replace is 95% air
01:27 Menche is the area selected?
01:27 Vadtec yes, using //p set
01:28 Menche fly to one corner -> //pos1 -> fly to the other corner -> //pos2 is another way
01:28 Vadtec and //volume gives me the volume of the are
01:28 Vadtec area*
01:28 Menche the corners have markers?
01:28 Vadtec you mean the 1 and 2, yes
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01:28 Menche maybe //replace air default:stone   ? but the other should have worked
01:28 Vadtec tried that and other combos
01:28 Vadtec no dice
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01:30 NekoGloop You need to make sure there is a difference in all the coordinate values in the pos1 and po2
01:31 NekoGloop pos2 even
01:31 Vadtec O.o
01:31 MinetestBot Vadtec: What are you wondering about?
01:31 Vadtec thats brain dead
01:31 NekoGloop Y of pos1 and Y of pos2 can't be equal
01:31 NekoGloop same for all the others.
01:31 Menche what made MinetestBot say that?
01:32 Menche 0.o
01:32 Vadtec that makes worldedit useless for things like leveling ground
01:32 Menche O.o
01:32 MinetestBot Menche: What are you wondering about?
01:32 Menche lol
01:32 khonkhortisan hmm
01:32 NekoGloop Vadtec, no
01:32 khonkhortisan uhh
01:32 khonkhortisan ?
01:32 khonkhortisan ‽
01:32 Vadtec i want to level an area 57x1x57
01:32 Menche if you don't mind replacing *everything* in the area, use //set
01:33 Vadtec the elevation is 29
01:33 khonkhortisan o.O
01:33 MinetestBot khonkhortisan: What are you wondering about?
01:33 Menche o.o
01:33 MinetestBot Menche: What are you wondering about?
01:33 Vadtec yer telling me i can have X1,29,Z1 and X2,29,Z2 and have it work?
01:33 Menche O.O
01:33 khonkhortisan O.O
01:33 MinetestBot Menche: What are you wondering about?
01:33 MinetestBot khonkhortisan: What are you wondering about?
01:33 khonkhortisan it should've said both our names, then the question.
01:33 Menche i am wondering how many phrases MinetestBot understands
01:34 khonkhortisan ^.^
01:34 khonkhortisan :/
01:34 Menche :(
01:34 Menche :)
01:34 Menche :D
01:34 khonkhortisan >:-(
01:34 khonkhortisan :b
01:34 Menche that can't be the only emoticon it recognizes
01:34 khonkhortisan Greetings
01:34 Menche hello
01:34 MinetestBot hi Menche
01:34 Vadtec NekoGloop: how is it not useless? i might not want to blindly //set the entire region
01:34 khonkhortisan hey, what about me?
01:34 Menche bye
01:34 khonkhortisan back
01:34 MinetestBot khonkhortisan: Welcome back!
01:35 Menche it doesn't recognize bye yet? come on
01:35 ShadowNinja Vadtec: it works for me, are you using latest git?
01:35 * khonkhortisan puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head
01:35 MinetestBot khonkhortisan: I don't want it, talk to NekoGloop, he likes kittens
01:35 NekoGloop Vadtec, Fly up slightly, or use //p set
01:35 * khonkhortisan puts a cake in MinetestBot's oven
01:35 MinetestBot Ooh! thank you, nom nom nom...
01:35 * Menche puts a kitten in MinetestBot's RAM
01:35 MinetestBot Menche: I don't want it, talk to NekoGloop, he likes kittens
01:35 khonkhortisan I've lost track
01:35 * NekoGloop puts a puppy on MinetestBot's ass
01:35 MinetestBot NekoGloop: Awwwww....
01:35 NekoGloop This ^
01:35 Menche LOL
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01:36 * Menche puts a puppy in MinetestBot's harddrive
01:36 MinetestBot Menche: Awwwww....
01:36 * Menche puts a puppy on MinetestBot's duodenum
01:36 MinetestBot Menche: Awwwww....
01:36 * Menche puts a puppy on MinetestBot's superior vena cava
01:36 MinetestBot Menche: Awwwww....
01:37 Vadtec wow
01:37 Vadtec world edit just segfaulted my server
01:37 Vadtec 19:36:53: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...t/bin/../games/minetest_game/mods/worldedit/init.lua:78: attempt to index local 'pos' (a nil value)
01:38 Vadtec i did //reset then //p get
01:38 ShadowNinja are you using this: https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit?
01:38 Vadtec i was trying to make sure it didnt have any pos set for either
01:38 Vadtec im using whatever is located here: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=572
01:38 Vadtec though im prolly gonna get told its out of date
01:39 Menche 0.5 or github?
01:39 ShadowNinja extremely out of date, use github
01:39 NekoGloop Oh. My. Fucking. God.
01:39 Vadtec have I ever said how much i HATE forum based mod management
01:39 Kacey truetext...
01:40 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Have you updated your ore lump and ingots yet?
01:40 ShadowNinja sfan5 should update it
01:40 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, not yet
01:41 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWbA7_veA_Q Randomly.
01:41 RealBadAngel i just made sound volume controls in UI
01:41 RealBadAngel and wonder if this setting is client side or server side
01:42 NekoGloop If it's set on a server with /set, it sets to the server (doing nothing)
01:42 Vadtec ShadowNinja: no comment...
01:42 NekoGloop It applies on the client.
01:42 RealBadAngel than good
01:43 RealBadAngel at least i can adjust sound level
01:43 NekoGloop People should make more nodes with the bendy group.
01:45 Vadtec much better
01:45 Vadtec amazing what happens when code matches code
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01:46 ShadowNinja anybody have any ideas as to why my server won't announce to the serverlist?
01:47 NekoGloop VanessaE: So i hear tell that pipeworks is functional now
01:47 VanessaE there we go.
01:47 VanessaE NekoGloop: yeah, mauvebic contributed some code to make it able to at least act like it can move water :-)
01:47 Menche ShadowNinja: do you have the port in the server_address field?
01:47 VanessaE and Nore/Novatux added a bunch of stuff to the pneumatic tubes to make them fully functional
01:48 Menche im not sure thats the problem but i have that
01:48 ShadowNinja no, let me try with it
01:48 Menche so, like "menche.servegame.com:30000"
01:48 VanessaE (as for the reboots...my wireless card was being st00pid)
01:49 NekoGloop If someone could be so kind as to update my gates mod to the newest mesecons that would be bloody wonderful.
01:49 ShadowNinja that didn't do anything
01:49 ShadowNinja are there any libraries or flags to set in cmake?
01:50 Menche curl_enable?
01:50 Menche or something like that, maybe
01:50 ShadowNinja it is enabled
01:50 Menche not sure what all's needed
01:50 ShadowNinja and it is ENABLE_CURL
01:51 Menche did cmake find json?
01:51 Menche did you re-run cmake before building the last time?
01:51 ShadowNinja -- Using project json library
01:51 ShadowNinja yes
01:52 Menche weird, could you pastebin your minetest.conf?
01:53 Menche the announcing was a bit reluctant for me too
01:54 ShadowNinja http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5556897/
01:56 Menche is serverlist_url set?
01:57 VanessaE you know what the forum needs?  an "open all new posts in tabs" button.
01:57 Menche run /set serverlist_url servers.minetest.net
01:57 VanessaE (or rather, open all threads with new posts)
01:57 Menche VanessaE: Yes.
01:57 VanessaE mauvebic: nice Enterprise D.  Now let's see you detail it ;-)
01:57 ShadowNinja serverlist_url = servers.minetest.net (forgot that part)
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01:57 NekoGloop VanessaE: I see you updated Gloopblocks. Keep updating it, if you find anything wrong.
01:58 VanessaE NekoGloop: willdo.
01:58 NekoGloop Or if, for example, the tools change in design for whatever reason.
01:58 Menche the forum also needs a way to "mark as read" an uninteresting post
01:58 VanessaE I'm only maintaining it because you seemed disinterested but I hate buggy programs ;)
01:59 NekoGloop VanessaE: You should make it work with the newer stairsplus.
01:59 VanessaE eventually I will
01:59 NekoGloop The function is exposed now, y'know.
01:59 VanessaE though I'm unfamiliar with stairsplus's API
02:00 VanessaE sokomine:  the travelnet mod is looking pretty good.  Nice job.
02:00 NekoGloop You should simply have to call a different function with the same parameters (and remove redundant code of the gloopblocks.register_stairs_and..etc function)
02:01 NekoGloop Also, to keep up with the times, make it depend on glooptest instead of gloopores.
02:01 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaGs0cQ/screenshot_80205181.png here we can see the Menche in it's natural habitat lol
02:01 VanessaE eventually.  too lazy right now to work on it :-)
02:02 Menche wandering around aimlessly like i do 95% of the time in minetest
02:02 Kacey lol
02:03 Menche i added a second floor to my tower and redid the stairs, today's not *all* wasted
02:03 Menche and extended my mine down to -700
02:05 Kacey i went down to -721
02:06 ShadowNinja I can't even get unix pipes to work to use --verbose | grep json
02:06 NekoGloop Doc should make his birthstones mod support all the tools.
02:07 ShadowNinja forwarding doesn't work either...
02:08 Vadtec whats the dropped block despawn time by default?
02:08 ShadowNinja infinity
02:08 NekoGloop aka there is none
02:09 Vadtec ive been looking, is there a setting that can change that?
02:10 ShadowNinja no, you would have to code it
02:10 ShadowNinja very simple however
02:10 Kacey or do /clearobjects
02:11 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xmAC9Qu908
02:15 VanessaE bbl
02:16 Menche was there a c++ port of minetestmapper.py?
02:16 Menche found it
02:18 Vadtec will /clearobjects affect the entire world?
02:18 Menche yes
02:18 Menche it can take a while and use a lot of memory on a large world
02:18 Vadtec im just tired of all these damn leaves
02:19 Vadtec damn things breed like rabbits
02:19 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, updated dependencies
02:20 Vadtec i think i know what my first mod is gonna be...improvements to the inventory screen
02:22 RealBadAngel there are a few mods doing that already
02:24 Kacey rba: how's it coming along?
02:25 Vadtec you sure there aint an object expiry? a bunch of these leaves just poofe
02:25 Vadtec poofed*
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02:26 Menche minetest-mapper-cpp keeps generating half a map
02:27 Menche has anyone made a colors.txt that includes wool and moreblocks?
02:27 RealBadAngel just added sound volume controls to UI
02:28 RealBadAngel if some1 would test it how it works on multiplayer
02:30 ShadowNinja Menche: I think I remember VanessaE having one
02:32 Menche link? do you know where?
02:32 ShadowNinja no, you would have to ask her
02:33 RealBadAngel http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/colors.txt
02:33 RealBadAngel you wanted this?
02:34 ShadowNinja aww you beat me to it
02:36 Menche yes
02:39 VanessaE back
02:39 MinetestBot VanessaE: Welcome back!
02:40 Vadtec pro tip...make sure you dont have your chests and furnaces selected before turning shit to stone
02:40 VanessaE if you're turning shit into stone, you need a laxitive.
02:40 VanessaE ;)
02:40 Vadtec possibly
02:40 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/9ykGnkL.jpg
02:41 RealBadAngel hi VanessaE
02:41 VanessaE hey
02:41 MinetestBot hi VanessaE
02:41 Vadtec omg these chunks not loading is pissin me off
02:42 VanessaE a new version of UI?
02:43 RealBadAngel small addition this time
02:43 RealBadAngel technic is updated with it
02:44 Kacey do you have a screenie of the pc?
02:44 Kacey for a teaser?
02:48 VanessaE Vadtec: what chunks, not on my server I hope?
02:48 Vadtec VanessaE: no, on my server
02:48 VanessaE oh
02:49 Vadtec its weird
02:49 Vadtec i know that VPS has more than enough horse power to run MT
02:49 VanessaE Vadtec: try hmmmm's fork:  https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commits/new_emerge
02:49 VanessaE see if it works better for you
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02:52 jordan4ibanez Can someone host a server for me?
02:52 NekoGloop Vadtec: That would be leafdecay. Items dropped on the ground do not expire.
02:53 NekoGloop Leaves disappear when there is no nearby tree node.
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02:57 Vadtec NekoGloop: the leaves drop the little block versions of them
02:57 Vadtec and they never go away
02:57 VanessaE Vadtec: /clearobjects
02:57 NekoGloop They shouldn't.
02:57 Vadtec i know what leaf decay is
02:57 NekoGloop Leafdecay; it has been fucked with.
02:57 VanessaE that'll take for-f'ing-ever, but it'll kill those entities
02:58 VanessaE check out moretrees' leaf decay. it actually works *properly*
02:58 Vadtec id rather they just expire eventually
02:58 Vadtec for now, im making an incinerator
02:58 NekoGloop Leafdecay should not drop leaf blocks; only saplings
02:58 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjfIpy81rx0
02:58 VanessaE NekoGloop: my code deletes leaves entirely, occasionally dropping saplings (I think)
02:58 NekoGloop Which is what default did a month ago.
02:59 NekoGloop aka when I last checked
02:59 Vadtec VanessaE: actually, the big trees from moretrees drop shittones
02:59 VanessaE they shouldn't!?
02:59 Vadtec ill screenshot it if necessary
02:59 Vadtec big tall suckers
02:59 VanessaE I tested it thoroughly
02:59 Vadtec multiple levels of leaves
02:59 Vadtec right?
03:00 VanessaE for me, the leaves were being deleted properly
03:00 VanessaE screenie plz
03:00 NekoGloop Your leafdecay. It has been throughly fucked.
03:00 jordan4ibanez I wish there were some way to load textures into the server as it was running
03:00 Vadtec objects still burn in lava in MT right?
03:00 Menche no
03:00 ShadowNinja Vadtec: are you using item_drop?
03:00 VanessaE Vadtec: no, except if you have pilzadam's builtin_items mod
03:01 NekoGloop VanessaE: are tabletops solid in homedecor?
03:01 NekoGloop Do things have the right sounds in homedecor yet?
03:01 VanessaE neko, no, but table legs are I think
03:01 Vadtec O.o why do things not burn in lava
03:01 MinetestBot Vadtec: What are you wondering about?
03:01 VanessaE and no, I haven't bothered with sounds yet
03:01 Vadtec my incinerator is useless
03:01 NekoGloop Do the homedecor doors function like the xdoors2 doors?
03:02 VanessaE Vadtec: they never did, unless lava flows into something solid, then it burns
03:02 VanessaE e.g. a wood node burns, but a wood entity does not
03:02 Vadtec how disappointing
03:02 Vadtec guess i get to make an incinerator mod now too
03:02 VanessaE NekoGloop: homedecor's doors function like the default ones - right click to open in modern versions of MT, or punch to open in older versions
03:02 VanessaE they do not automatically place left/right ones though.  I'll fix that some day
03:03 NekoGloop VanessaE: but then I can't make coffee tables?
03:03 VanessaE Vadtec: PilzAdam's builtin_items mod does that.
03:03 VanessaE NekoGloop: use 3dforniture for that, for now.
03:03 NekoGloop But me like homedecor
03:03 VanessaE pull requests are welcome :-)
03:03 Vadtec VanessaE: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/45935   http://www.pasteall.org/pic/45936
03:03 Vadtec before and after
03:03 NekoGloop Sweet.
03:04 VanessaE Vadtec: that doesn't look like a moretrees tree.
03:04 VanessaE that looks like a conifers mod tree
03:04 VanessaE which indeed does that
03:04 Vadtec i dont remember loading the connifers mod
03:04 NekoGloop That is indeed a conifers mod tree.
03:05 Vadtec apparently i did
03:05 Vadtec cause its in /mods
03:05 * Vadtec sighs
03:05 Vadtec if i remove it now, i bet it will screw stuff right?
03:05 VanessaE Vadtec: no worries, just delete it.  Moretrees will cover for it.
03:05 VanessaE moretrees has aliases to handle bas080's jungletree mod as well as that conifers mod.
03:06 NekoGloop I actually have just jungletrees enabled in moretrees
03:06 * NekoGloop puts on shades
03:06 Vadtec and why is it picking up blocks takes so long?
03:06 Vadtec i walk past stuff and it doesnt pick up
03:06 Vadtec have to walk over it 2-3 times before it gets picked up
03:06 VanessaE dunno
03:06 Menche its near instant on my server
03:08 NekoGloop VanessaE: When have you ever put a throw rug on a wall...
03:09 Vadtec im starting to wonder if some of the issue im seeing arent network traffic related
03:09 Vadtec ive had blocks respawn on me a time or two
03:09 VanessaE I never did, but I guess some people could use them for tapestries :-)
03:09 VanessaE b rbn
03:09 VanessaE brb
03:10 Vadtec which could also explain the objects not collecting quickly
03:10 Vadtec but this is all LAN side
03:10 Vadtec no traffic shaping
03:10 Vadtec i even gave UDP on port 30000-30010 high priority in the fire wall on the LAN side
03:11 Vadtec but even watching tcpdump doesnt yield any wierd results
03:14 jordan4ibanez I guess I can't host a server anymore lol
03:14 Kacey haha
03:14 Kacey i have a server but not 24/7
03:15 Kacey and lags to hell
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03:20 Kacey we need more mods like technic
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03:21 * Menche is annoyed by crontab
03:22 * khonkhortisan is annoyed by youtube
03:22 Kacey ?
03:22 khonkhortisan I can't change my email
03:22 Menche "*0 * * * *" is every hour right?
03:23 Menche or is that every ten minutes
03:23 NekoGloop No, that's astericks.
03:23 Menche should be the latter
03:23 Menche lol
03:23 khonkhortisan asterisks are standard for crontab
03:23 Menche that *should* be every ten minutes
03:23 NekoGloop astericks == ASCII code 42
03:24 NekoGloop so * is the answer
03:24 NekoGloop Funny, as it's a wildcard so it does contain the answer :)
03:24 Vadtec Menche: 0 * * * *
03:24 Menche * = wildcard for "everything"
03:24 Menche so yeah
03:24 NekoGloop VanessaE: I'm working on nodeboxes for the tabletops now.
03:25 VanessaE oh cool
03:25 khonkhortisan • Bullet points
03:25 Menche my server map should be updated every 10 mins now
03:25 VanessaE I wish I could combine the plantlike drawtype for the legs with a nodebox for the tops so the tables only need one node
03:25 Menche got all the colors thanks mostly to VanessaE's colors.txt  :D
03:25 VanessaE I suppose I could fake it with about a thousand tall, thin nodeboxes arranged in an "X" shape...
03:26 NekoGloop I could make them appear as one node. They wouldn't actually be a single node, though.
03:26 khonkhortisan VanessaE, do you support a node's right to rotational freedom? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4807
03:26 VanessaE khonkhortisan: eh?  I'm aware of RBA's code here.  what about it?
03:27 khonkhortisan I think it's funny to call it a "right", and I've been waiting for something like it to come along
03:28 NekoGloop I forget how to nodebox D:
03:29 Kacey Menche, menche.servegame.com/map
03:29 Menche ?
03:29 Kacey or where can i see the map
03:29 Menche just menche.servegame.com
03:30 Menche or menche.servegame.com/map.png to load just the image
03:30 Kacey ... big grey rectangles
03:30 Menche probably the surface mapblock wasn't generated
03:30 Kacey lol
03:31 Menche i believe the little dots on the grass are flowers
03:31 Menche lilypads are generated really, really dense
03:32 VanessaE they're supposed to be.  I did that on purpose :-)
03:32 Menche and I see the hard edges from where the mapgen was changed
03:33 khonkhortisan So if you walk past that edge you'll destroy buildings on the other side?
03:33 Menche Kacey's blindingly bright glowglass building :P
03:33 Menche no, it's the same map, just the land was generated differently
03:33 Kacey omg it is bright
03:34 NekoGloop Hey, Menche, could you reset my password on your server pretty please?
03:34 Menche ok
03:34 Menche pm you the pass?
03:34 NekoGloop Yep
03:34 NekoGloop Also is it stable or latest?
03:35 Menche latest git
03:35 NekoGloop A build from Feb 20 should be fine then, yes?
03:35 Kacey ya
03:35 Kacey wait what?
03:40 khonkhortisan You'll only be missing a memory consumption limit
03:41 Kacey NekoGloop is talking i take it
03:42 khonkhortisan or not. My git log isn't exactly ordered by date
03:42 khonkhortisan I _said_ I'd start half a conversation for all the people who ever /ignored anyone…
03:42 khonkhortisan But yes. Neko is talking.
03:44 NekoGloop Meow
03:44 khonkhortisan And meowing
03:44 * NekoGloop bites Kacey
03:45 khonkhortisan and biting you
03:45 NekoGloop :D
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03:46 Menche what does "Super Heat" from specialties do?
03:47 khonkhortisan So digging both wears my weapon and repairs it?
03:49 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6pi8H7I1E4&feature=fvwp&NR=1
03:49 Kacey Super heat cooks the blocks you dig
03:50 Kacey so when i dig sand, i get glass
03:50 khonkhortisan digging leaves gives you fire tree saplings?
03:50 Kacey no
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03:51 Octupus Hola
03:51 Menche hi
03:51 MinetestBot hi Menche
03:52 Menche lol MinetestBot
03:52 Octupus Hello
03:52 MinetestBot hi Octupus
03:52 jordan4ibanez_ I wish we had some famous youtubers playing this game
03:52 Kacey lol 313hummer isnt enough?
03:52 jordan4ibanez_ Not even close lol
03:53 Kacey lol
03:53 Kacey what about jboot111?
03:54 jordan4ibanez_ Wtf he only has like 6 videos xD
03:56 Kacey thats me lol
03:56 jordan4ibanez_ Don't do it
03:56 jordan4ibanez_ ITS TOO DANGEROUS
03:56 Kacey what?
03:57 jordan4ibanez_ I don't know, did you really expect reasoning behind that statement? lol
03:57 Kacey knowing you, no not really
03:57 jordan4ibanez_ Good
03:59 jordan4ibanez_ A virtual machine on my virtual virtual machine. Hmmmm.
04:00 Kacey lol ineption
04:00 Kacey inception
04:01 Menche see how far you can nest them before everything crashes
04:02 jordan4ibanez_ Well If I have 8 gb of ram, and I assign 200mb to each vm, I can have 40 vms inside of eachother
04:02 Menche would probably murder your cpu
04:02 jordan4ibanez_ Not if I murder it first
04:02 Kacey night all
04:18 NekoGloop I can so imagine having MT water parkour. That would be so fucking badass.
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04:23 jordan4ibanez_ How do I compile minetest as the server only?
04:23 MinetestBot jordan4ibanez_: There is a detailed guide at https://raw.github.com/celeron55/minetest/master/README.txt for compiling minetest on windows and linux, if you have a mac.. ..no luck
04:23 Menche cmake . -DBUILD_CLIENT=0
04:23 NekoGloop jordan4ibanez_, Do you feel stupid now? :)
04:24 jordan4ibanez_ No, that's why the bot is there
04:24 VanessaE zzz
04:25 * NekoGloop puts a kitten in a nightgown on VanessaE's lap
04:25 * VanessaE cuddles with the kitten and places it in OldCoder's pile
04:25 NekoGloop ... GAH
04:26 NekoGloop curse you menche, you are distracting me from doing nodeboxes for Vanessa. >:(
04:26 VanessaE lol
04:26 Menche ?
04:26 sokomine oh, you do nodeboxes?
04:27 sokomine i could use one that forms a barrel
04:27 * Menche likes to draw a diagram on paper when doing nodeboxes
04:27 sokomine if that's not there already...mauvebic may have one
04:27 Menche helps keep all the coordinates straight
04:27 Menche the tree trunk from 3dforniture?
04:27 sokomine there's that wielditem editor from sapier that works well
04:27 sokomine even more...oval?
04:27 NekoGloop s/well/like shit/
04:28 mauvebic no barrels but i remember someone had a thread on te forums with old barrel texture and round nbox
04:29 Menche isn't there a barrel in dwarves?
04:30 NekoGloop I don't do THAT detailed of nodeboxes.
04:30 mauvebic not sure never played it
04:31 sokomine possibly
04:31 sokomine nekogloop: hm :) you might do a kitten :) as a model :) and animal
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04:51 hmmmm hey guys
04:51 MinetestBot hi hmmmm
04:52 hmmmm hi minetestbot
04:52 MinetestBot Hey hmmmm
04:52 hmmmm hey
04:52 MinetestBot hi hmmmm
04:52 hmmmm hi
04:52 khonkhortisan I do that with hi/hello
04:52 khonkhortisan hi
04:52 MinetestBot hi khonkhortisan
04:52 hmmmm anyone want to test my branch?  https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commits/new_emerge
04:52 NekoGloop sup MinetestBot?
04:52 hmmmm especially in singleplayer
04:52 NekoGloop Aw.
04:53 khonkhortisan 'sup?
04:53 hmmmm worrying mostly about performance
04:54 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whqHl-kHyTI
04:56 khonkhortisan NekoGloop, if I click on your links, youtube starts recommending stuff like it
04:56 NekoGloop There's this thing called a history. Clear it.
04:56 NekoGloop I do it after watching other peoples' shit :)
04:57 mauvebic im not crazy about google suggesting shit either lol some of the things they think are related is kinda odd too
04:57 khonkhortisan I can tell what percent of the videos are "what I'm interested in" and what is actually related to the video
04:57 khonkhortisan duckduckgo has an article about that
04:57 jordan4ibanez_ even in a virtual machine minetest runs blazingly fast on my pc
04:58 NekoGloop mauvebic, like Vocaloid and LoL?
04:58 mauvebic dont know those
04:58 khonkhortisan What could possibly be wrong with minetest.register_on_joinplayer(function(player) local player_name = player:get_player_name() ?
04:58 mauvebic but alot of videos about weird natural phenomena tend to link to conspiracy theories and biblical prophecy lol (until its explained scientifically)
04:59 khonkhortisan I don't see where it has the time to create a nil
04:59 NekoGloop Vocaloid being the program that makes the voices of most of the videos I usually link to, and the second is League of Legends
04:59 khonkhortisan free energy generators and gamma rays
05:01 celeron55 khonkhortisan: maybe the player coming in as a parameter can be nil (which seems a bit odd, noting the purpose of the callback)
05:01 mauvebic could use some free energy lol wife told not to touch the pasta till she got back, that was 12 hours ago :/
05:02 NekoGloop Then touch everything but the pasta.
05:02 celeron55 (probably a core bug)
05:02 khonkhortisan just do extreme couponing and spend the money on energy
05:02 mauvebic i found uncle ben's fast'n'slutty rice
05:04 mauvebic oh and a can of beans lol
05:04 khonkhortisan When mice are upgraded to eye-tracking cameras, irc will be upgraded so you can tell when the person you are talking to has read your message
05:05 NekoGloop Damn straight. Especially in PM.
05:05 mauvebic ugh, msn had that
05:05 mauvebic it was annoying
05:05 mauvebic "why arent you answering???"
05:05 NekoGloop facebook has that.
05:06 mauvebic facebook is drowning out legitimate emails lol
05:06 mauvebic i keep flagging it as spam and it keeps getting through
05:06 mauvebic its worse than an obsessive ex
05:06 khonkhortisan gmail chat uses is typing/has entered text
05:06 khonkhortisan just change your facebook settings
05:07 mauvebic i do but its not like they dont redesign and reset it every six months
05:07 mauvebic i dont even use it that much anymore
05:07 khonkhortisan oh
05:07 mauvebic just family, deleted everybody else lol
05:07 khonkhortisan I don't use it at all, but leave it sending me emails
05:07 mauvebic people round here get fired for posting shit about their jobs/bosses, i dont need that heat lol
05:08 NekoGloop I only use it occasionally when someone bitches at me to send them shit in a game.
05:08 khonkhortisan irc is much easier, you always have a topic. You're not just spouting random stuff about your life (most of the time)
05:08 NekoGloop I have to be pretty damn bored for that to happen too.
05:08 mauvebic honestly i thought irc was dead 'til i came to minetest lol
05:09 mauvebic before that last use dated back to mid 90s lol
05:09 khonkhortisan You should order the channel list by users and see what's at the top
05:13 NekoGloop Isn't that a downright shame
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05:13 mauvebic whats top?
05:13 NekoGloop #ubuntu
05:14 mauvebic good lord
05:15 mauvebic explains alot lol
05:15 NekoGloop Only ranking in at 17k users
05:16 VanessaE bah
05:17 VanessaE minetest.env:get_perlin()
05:17 VanessaE 00:15:37: ERROR[main]: ...minetest/mods/minetest/plantlife/plants_lib/init.lua:32: attempt to index field 'env' (a nil value)
05:17 VanessaE (why is it I can never remember how to solve that?)
05:17 mauvebic isnt env a field of minetest?
05:17 VanessaE of course
05:18 mauvebic weird error then
05:18 khonkhortisan minetest.env:doSomething() as compared to env = minetest.env env:doSomething()
05:19 VanessaE well in this case I moved it out of one of my functions as a local variable, and made it global, defined near the start of the code since it never changes
05:20 khonkhortisan Oh yeah? Well "#define unless if(!(x))" !
05:20 VanessaE haha
05:21 VanessaE http://pastebin.com/KvDiiuiR
05:21 VanessaE what am I doing wrong here?
05:21 VanessaE I know this is something dead simple, but I just don't see it yet
05:23 hmmmm haah
05:23 hmmmm vanessa, you can't do that
05:23 VanessaE figures. :)
05:24 hmmmm when that script is run, the env object doesn't exist yet
05:24 VanessaE oops :D
05:24 hmmmm the scope of the variables ought to be global, but their value is assigned when the mod is first initialized
05:24 hmmmm ...whenever that is
05:25 VanessaE so the question is how to get to that get_perlin() function at this point in the script
05:28 khonkhortisan cheat
05:28 VanessaE already figured it out
05:28 khonkhortisan ...whatever that means
05:28 VanessaE plantslib.perlin_temperature = PerlinNoise(temperature_seeddiff, temperature_octaves, temperature_persistence, temperature_scale)
05:28 VanessaE this looks like the correct way
05:29 * VanessaE removes the map file and lets it re-generate
05:29 celeron55 minetest.after(0,foo) is the general way
05:29 VanessaE there we go.  yeah, PerlinNoise() is the right way (it works anyway)
05:30 celeron55 that way you get the exact same pattern for every world
05:30 hmmmm nothing about the profiler?
05:31 khonkhortisan minetest.after is also a fix for mesecons not updating twice in one logic change
05:35 VanessaE hmmmm: updated plantlife git, in case you're interested.
05:47 NekoGloop any noticable performance upgrades?
05:48 VanessaE in plants_lib?  nothing you'll notice - infinitesimal improvements.
05:49 NekoGloop I see what preload item visuals does now
05:51 NekoGloop And it is stupid that that's even configurable
05:53 NekoGloop VanessaE: preload item visuals is what makes the node textures cycle through at the bottom left.
05:54 VanessaE yep, and that used to be the default
05:54 VanessaE that is, it was hard-coded to always pre-load
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05:56 thefamilygrog66 Hey all - just a quick question: does junglegrass grow in the stable version of 0.4.4 (i.e. without a mod)?
05:56 MinetestBot hi thefamilygrog66
05:56 thefamilygrog66 hello bot
05:57 VanessaE hey hey tfg
05:57 thefamilygrog66 howdy V
05:57 VanessaE no, it does not grow
05:57 thefamilygrog66 thought that was the answer
05:57 VanessaE it'll spawn at mapgen time, but it doesn't regrow.  afaik my junglegrass mod is the only one that does that
05:57 thefamilygrog66 it's growing on my own copy on my computer, but not on my server
05:58 thefamilygrog66 maybe not growing, but it's spawned anyway
05:58 thefamilygrog66 there is none on my server at all tho
05:58 VanessaE yeah, it spawns at mapgen time now, pilzadam added that back in just recently.
05:58 thefamilygrog66 that would make sense, since I'm running pilzadam's version on my laptop, but stable on the server
05:59 thefamilygrog66 not sure if I should add your junglegrass mod, or just change the recipe for sweepers to dry shrub...
05:59 VanessaE well I'm quite partial to my mods, so... :-)
05:59 thefamilygrog66 I thought you might say that, hehehe
06:00 thefamilygrog66 I was gonna add the towntest one that you worked on
06:00 VanessaE you'd use the plantlife modpack (adds flowers and poison ivy too), since junglegrass depends on plants_lib
06:00 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vaGs1cw/screenshot_47759207.png YOU SHALL FEAR MY ULTIMATE POWER OF WALLMOUNTED NODEBOXES
06:00 NekoGloop Anyway, that would be your large glass table things (minus the homedecor texture because I'm a lazy ass.)
06:01 VanessaE celeron55: would you consider looking into plants_lib at some point, see if it's something suitable to add to builtin or minetest_game?  I think it'll prove very useful for others in future.
06:01 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vaGs1dQ/screenshot_47786823.png Here's a closer shot to one.
06:01 VanessaE NekoGloop: nice!
06:01 thefamilygrog66 hey V, is towntest much of a strain on a server?
06:01 VanessaE grog: I don't remember what towntest is actually
06:02 VanessaE *looks*
06:02 VanessaE OH!
06:02 VanessaE um
06:02 thefamilygrog66 it's the one with the chests with the orange dudes who build stuff
06:02 VanessaE well actually yeah it would be a strain during times when a building is being spawned.
06:02 thefamilygrog66 a couple of your houses are in it
06:02 NekoGloop Now it gets fun.
06:02 * NekoGloop cracks knuckles
06:02 thefamilygrog66 okay, thanks
06:02 NekoGloop Here come the round tabletops
06:03 VanessaE because it uses worldedit to add those buildings I guess, and that can cause tons of lag while they're being loaded and moved around
06:03 VanessaE NekoGloop: oh this'll be fun.  Be sure you make them VERY round
06:03 thefamilygrog66 ah, gotcha
06:03 VanessaE (so they still look good with HDX)
06:03 NekoGloop Well you do realize that round isn't possible with the textures.
06:03 VanessaE sure it is
06:04 VanessaE look at Jeija's "irregular" mod
06:04 VanessaE it has almost perfectly round cylinders.
06:04 VanessaE also homedecor has a round brass pole
06:04 VanessaE made of dozens of nodeboxes
06:04 thefamilygrog66 I set up my server on a ubuntu virtual machine using the free trial of windows azure web service, so it's pretty limited
06:04 VanessaE (because we can't do actual *models* in a node)
06:04 NekoGloop Ok, you seem like you know a helluva lot more about this than I do.
06:04 NekoGloop And it's your mod, so have fun :)
06:06 VanessaE be my guest :-)
06:06 VanessaE I'm too lazy to screw with it :)
06:06 NekoGloop I'm implying I'm not doing it :)
06:06 thefamilygrog66 hey, one other server-related question
06:06 VanessaE hm?
06:07 VanessaE grog: also check out my server when you get the chance :-)
06:07 thefamilygrog66 is it safe to delete the debug file regularly, or does rollback depend on it?
06:07 thefamilygrog66 yes, I'm gonna do that V
06:07 VanessaE rollback uses its own file
06:07 hmmmm soooooo
06:07 VanessaE so yeah, you can kill debug.txt if it gets too unweildy
06:07 thefamilygrog66 cool, thanks
06:07 hmmmm anybody else here check out my branch yet?
06:07 VanessaE hmmmm: hm?
06:07 VanessaE oh
06:07 hmmmm :/
06:07 hmmmm kinda stuck until i get a consensus
06:08 thefamilygrog66 thanks again for the info - talk to you later!
06:08 VanessaE cya grog
06:08 VanessaE and welcome back
06:12 sokomine smaller buildings ought to be fine with towntest. the npc (2d) builds them pretty slowly and takes apples to work faster
06:13 sokomine huge buildings take a very long time to be built
06:14 VanessaE oh hell
06:14 VanessaE I forgot towntest builds them up slowly
06:14 jordan4ibanez_ sfan5|OFF are you there
06:14 sokomine yes. that builder is really slow...
06:15 mauvebic should hire a few illegals to help :p
06:16 sokomine then you'll need security guards as well...
06:16 mauvebic and the ICE mod, a thoroughly laggy one lol
06:17 NekoGloop VanessaE, would you like me to model the utility table mk2 while I'm here?
06:18 VanessaE actually, I had meant to delete that
06:18 VanessaE 3dforniture has a much better one that's similar to it anyway
06:19 NekoGloop the maker of 3dforniture has WAY. TOO. DAMN. MUCH. TIME.
06:19 jordan4ibanez_ I think I perfected treecapitator and item drops :o
06:20 VanessaE yeah, but at the same time, he hasn't been doing much on it lately.
06:20 VanessaE jordan4ibanez_: does it work with moretrees? :-)
06:20 jordan4ibanez_ VanessaE do you know how IPtables work?
06:20 jordan4ibanez_ Yes it does
06:20 VanessaE iptables?  barely.  haven't had to configure it in a few years though
06:21 NekoGloop Here, have a pull request.
06:21 NekoGloop er.... i think...
06:22 VanessaE ok..waiting for it
06:23 VanessaE Jordach wants me to add a bunch of stuff to homedecor, various little things (most of it would be useful indeed), but I just can't find the motivation to do much with it lately.
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06:23 VanessaE so if you feel like tackling that list, go for it ;)
06:24 NekoGloop Hell, lemme see it.
06:24 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=59327#p59327
06:24 brandy_ ok, I apologize for a blond question but I can not find the mod name for white wool?
06:24 VanessaE brandy_: it's just wool:white I think
06:25 brandy_ ty Vanessa
06:26 VanessaE NekoGloop: actually, I take it back.  most of his suggestions aren't that useful, but some stuff is
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06:27 NekoGloop Gimme push access for half a second, because by no means am I sitting here for hours trying to commit this.
06:27 VanessaE later, when I'm awake enough to know wtf I'm doing :D
06:28 jordan4ibanez_ I sorted out the issue with item drops, items below you cannot be sucked up, when you throw an item it has a 2.5 second timer before it can be picked up, dug nodes have the timer set to 2.5 so they get sucked up instantly, so now you can
06:28 jordan4ibanez_ dispose of your items, or throw them without being irritated as fuck
06:30 VanessaE NekoGloop: github isn't letting me add you
06:30 NekoGloop It can tell I use windows, I'll be you anything.
06:30 NekoGloop bet, even
06:30 jordan4ibanez_ Goodnight :)
06:31 VanessaE there we go
06:31 VanessaE got it
06:31 VanessaE you have push access now
06:32 VanessaE I'm off to bed now, before I fall asleep at the keyboard.
06:32 VanessaE night all
06:33 VanessaE NekoGloop: please don't break my repo :)
06:33 NekoGloop Here have a pull request
06:33 mauvebic ill prolly still be here in the morning lol
06:33 VanessaE I don't see no steenkeeng pull requests :-)
06:33 NekoGloop Nor do I see my code.
06:34 NekoGloop See, github is a piece of shit.
06:34 VanessaE heh
06:34 VanessaE well the win client probably is
06:34 mauvebic naw, youre just holding it wrong :p
06:34 VanessaE I'm used to the command line + using the website
06:34 VanessaE anyway, I'm out.
06:36 NekoGloop apparently I have push access but can't do anything.
06:36 NekoGloop That's bloody brilliant.
06:42 mauvebic dont look to me for clues :P i find setting up thunar shares pita enough lol
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07:00 NekoGloop http://octodex.github.com/images/gangnamtocat.png
07:03 MiJyn goodnight
07:26 OldCoder Hi
07:26 MinetestBot hi OldCoder
07:27 OldCoder Well, hello to you Mr. Bot
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08:10 sfan5 Is the ability to open 2 clients using the app just for windows?
08:10 sfan5 ^ stupidity over 9000
08:10 sfan5 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=71939#p71939
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08:40 sfan5 !sfu *swag*
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08:43 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/vKSYuxD.png
08:44 RealBadAngel and http://i.imgur.com/t9snHgp.png
08:44 sfan5 sound volume?
08:44 RealBadAngel yup
08:44 sfan5 ..nice
08:44 RealBadAngel workin in multiplayer
08:45 RealBadAngel setting sound_volume from lua was workin only in single player mode
08:45 RealBadAngel i got pissed off and added ingame volume control
08:46 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=72102#p72102
08:46 * Calinou bets on 1 minute ping times
08:46 Calinou VPSes give you 1% of a CPU :P
08:46 RealBadAngel tried to make it with slider but theyre somehow screwed
08:50 Calinou just use a field :P
08:50 Calinou where you input a percentage and it is automatically multiplied by the game
08:51 RealBadAngel meh, input field to set the volume?
08:51 RealBadAngel +- also works
08:52 Calinou +/- requires lots of clicks
08:52 Calinou people should be able to accurately set the volume
08:52 Calinou even by 1% increments
08:52 RealBadAngel when we move definitely to 1.8
08:53 RealBadAngel for such things only sliders are reasonable
08:53 RealBadAngel inputing value from keyboard is just nonsense
08:54 RealBadAngel i can display a slider but cannot update its position when resizing screen for some unknown reason
09:01 Calinou why is it nonsense?
09:02 Calinou sliders only ARE nonsense
09:02 Calinou you sometimes don't know which value you are using (unless you do it properly) and you can't input a specific value quickly
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09:05 RealBadAngel have you actually seen a game that has volume control by inputing its value? lol
09:06 RealBadAngel i have not
09:07 Calinou yes because they like to make you waste time 1) aiming properly for the value you want 2) buying 10000dpi mouses
09:07 Calinou it's faster to input 2 digits
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09:08 RealBadAngel nobody needs volume being set with 0.01 accuracy
09:08 RealBadAngel 0, full, something somwhere in the middle
09:09 jin_xi are checkboxes in formspecs possible?
09:09 Calinou yes we do need
09:09 Calinou in clementine, between 23 and 24% volume I hear the difference
09:09 Calinou and I'm not an audiophile
09:10 RealBadAngel hehehe
09:10 Calinou and changing volume by 1% is a PITA there since there is no input field
09:10 Calinou (you can change it by 4% increments with mouse wheel, why not 1%? stupid too)
09:10 RealBadAngel jin_xi, theyre in the engine, together with scroll bars, listboxes etc
09:10 Calinou jin_xi: afaik, no
09:11 RealBadAngel easy to add tho
09:13 RealBadAngel wow, seems i get sliders to work
09:13 RealBadAngel lets throw away buttons then :)
09:14 Calinou let's also add sliders for fancy trees
09:14 Calinou tree fanciness
09:16 jin_xi a propos trees: updated description with ingame tree editor http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4766
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09:24 rubenwardy hi all
09:24 MinetestBot hi rubenwardy
09:26 Calinou hi MinetestBot :P
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10:19 Matsetes Sorry, in technic mod, is the MV solar panel the only way to obtain MV energy?
10:36 RealBadAngel by now yes
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11:04 Jordach morning all
11:05 akerok Good morning.
11:06 akerok Although, I haven't been to bed yet.  I guess that makes it my night.  lol.
11:06 akerok Been up almost 24 hours.
11:12 Jordach akerok, gmt-5 much?
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11:14 akerok It's 6:13 am here.  I have been awake since 8 am yesterday.  My son was born yesterday.  That is what I mean.
11:15 akerok That is why I have been awake this long.
11:15 Jordach aye.
11:17 rubenwardy It is 11:17 here
11:17 rubenwardy (am)
11:17 Jordach rubenwardy, ikr
11:18 * rubenwardy is getting ready to watch click
11:18 Jordach CLICK!?! CLICK!?!?! OUT. SCAT.
11:18 Jordach NO ADAM SANDLER.
11:19 rubenwardy BBC Click
11:19 rubenwardy 11:30
11:19 rubenwardy on BBC NEWS
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11:30 Jordach rubenwardy, OH
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11:58 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/J9NdRbM.png
11:58 RealBadAngel at least i made it
11:59 RealBadAngel pull in a few minutes
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11:59 RealBadAngel repeat for proller: http://i.imgur.com/J9NdRbM.png
12:00 proller what is?
12:02 RealBadAngel ingame volume change
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12:03 rubenwardy RBA: looks good
12:03 RealBadAngel works in multiplayer, each client can adjust its own sound volume now
12:04 RealBadAngel ofc from menu: http://i.imgur.com/vKSYuxD.png
12:05 RealBadAngel learned damn shitload of irrlicht stuff doing this
12:06 RealBadAngel i think after this lessons i will add sliders, checkboxes and listboxes to formspec
12:07 rubenwardy can a moderator move this to mod releases: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=72155#p72155
12:08 RealBadAngel rubenwardy, it would be real cool if you will add technic achievments too :)
12:08 rubenwardy yeah, I might
12:09 RealBadAngel like first powered tool, first electric furnace etc
12:10 RealBadAngel btw, cornernote had achievments with rewards in skyblock
12:10 RealBadAngel thats also nice idea
12:10 rubenwardy I might do that
12:12 rubenwardy can a moderator move this to mod releases: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=72155#p72155
12:12 rubenwardy (ping: sfan5, vanessae, thexyz)
12:14 RealBadAngel VanessaE is propably sleeping
12:15 proller rubenwardy, i think every user action must be counted and stored in sqlite, per user and per world
12:15 rubenwardy proller: yes, that is what it does, but in a table
12:15 rubenwardy is it possible to access sqlite from lua?
12:23 sfan5 rubenwardy: moved
12:23 sfan5 and no
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12:25 FreeFull RealBadAngel: How about an options button instead?
12:25 FreeFull So that there can be an options dialogue that can be extended for other stuff too
12:25 rubenwardy sfan5: thought so
12:25 sfan5 FreeFull: +1
12:25 RealBadAngel instead of what?
12:26 rubenwardy instead of "sound volumn"
12:26 rubenwardy *volume
12:26 RealBadAngel like what options for example?
12:27 rubenwardy sound at the moment
12:27 FreeFull Change keys
12:27 FreeFull Etc
12:27 rubenwardy tru
12:27 rubenwardy e
12:27 rubenwardy change password
12:27 RealBadAngel keys are in main menu
12:27 FreeFull All the graphics options from the settings tab at some point in the future
12:27 RealBadAngel password is active when in multiplayer
12:27 FreeFull RealBadAngel: So you have to log off, change keys and log back on
12:28 FreeFull Not convienient
12:28 rubenwardy FreeFull: most of the graphics settings require a restart
12:28 RealBadAngel i havent invented it
12:28 RealBadAngel and wont duplicate menus
12:28 FreeFull rubenwardy: That's why I said at some point in the future
12:28 FreeFull It'd probably be a bit of work
12:29 RealBadAngel 14hrs to get this bitch to work
12:29 RealBadAngel i started at midnight
12:29 RealBadAngel its 1:23 pm
12:29 rubenwardy RealBadAngel: weldone
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12:30 RealBadAngel most of the time tho was reading irrlicht docs and examples
12:30 FreeFull I'm guessing it's not as simple as SDL
12:30 RealBadAngel 2hrs to get conversion examples from int to w_char
12:31 RealBadAngel some things in the engine are just fuckin insane
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12:32 RealBadAngel but still, once done, i can add more stuff now to the formspec
12:32 RealBadAngel and menu too
12:33 RealBadAngel but im not quite sure bout duplicating key and video settings
12:33 RealBadAngel maybe video resolution, switch to fullscreen and back
12:34 RealBadAngel and FINALLY exit to OS from main menu
12:34 RealBadAngel once in fullscreen mode theres no way to exit the game lol
12:34 RealBadAngel you have to start the game to exit from it
12:35 FreeFull alt+f4?
12:35 FreeFull Does that not work in fullscreen
12:35 RealBadAngel i dont mean keyboard shortcuts, or kill
12:36 RealBadAngel theres no fuckin option in the menu
12:37 FreeFull There is Exit to OS
12:37 FreeFull But that's only once you are inside a world
12:37 RealBadAngel thats what im talkin about
12:37 RealBadAngel why the fuck theres no such option in main menu :)
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12:42 thexyz pong!
12:42 thexyz oh, wait
12:43 Jordach ping!
12:44 TheBonsai m00
12:50 rubenwardy any news?
12:52 Jordach more work on my Pokémon map done
12:52 Jordach rubenwardy, you can visit the map you know
12:54 rubenwardy she has no clue http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=72164#p72164
12:58 FreeFull I just killed myself by swimming into the ground
12:58 rubenwardy huh?
12:58 FreeFull Underwater fall damage
12:58 Jordach rubenwardy, nice achievements
12:59 Jordach does it print: -!- Server: Achievement Get! Minetest
12:59 FreeFull Also I feel like a dolphin when I jump out of water
12:59 FreeFull With fast
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13:02 rubenwardy Jordach, it prints:
13:02 rubenwardy Server -!- Achievement Unlocked: Be an arse
13:02 rubenwardy Server -!- Take the piss out of c55
13:02 rubenwardy (not a real achievement, of course)
13:03 Jordach celeron55, fix yer blasted bugs
13:03 Jordach rubenwardy, ^^
13:04 rubenwardy Server -!- Achievement Unlocked: Be an arse
13:04 rubenwardy Server -!- Take the piss out of c55
13:11 * Jordach slaps rubenwardy
13:12 rubenwardy you starting?
13:12 Jordach nope.
13:12 rubenwardy *startin'
13:12 Jordach pm me if you want to know more about my map making
13:16 rubenwardy I am busy atm
13:17 Jordach okay.
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13:28 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
13:30 rubenwardy hi
13:30 rubenwardy how are you?
13:31 PilzAdam fine
13:31 Calinou hi
13:31 MinetestBot hi Calinou
13:32 rubenwardy hi
13:32 MinetestBot hi rubenwardy
13:32 thexyz how do you like this way of working with inventories? https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-stress/blob/master/examples/simple/init.lua#L5
13:34 rubenwardy any news on this? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4168
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13:50 Jordach Calinou, soon i will be a full time xubuntu user
13:50 * Calinou selects high five taunt and presses "I"
13:51 Calinou <walk in front of Calinou and press I to do an high five!>
13:57 thexyz install gentoo before it's not too late
13:57 * rubenwardy prefers "E"
13:57 thexyz so, no thoughts on that inventory access api?
13:58 Calinou "before it's not too late" uh uh
13:59 rubenwardy looks good, thexyz
13:59 rubenwardy I dont do inventory or formspec so...
14:00 thexyz because it's not convenient
14:00 Calinou >uses gentoo >wants things to be convenient
14:01 thexyz wait, gentoo is very convenient
14:01 Calinou :)
14:03 thexyz unlike your buntus
14:04 thexyz bai
14:04 RealBadAngel https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/502 finished that stuff, over 14hrs. need to take a nap ;)
14:05 rubenwardy go on, you earned it
14:05 thexyz why aren't buttons centered?
14:05 RealBadAngel when you press ESC?
14:05 thexyz anyway, better go get some sleep
14:05 thexyz yes
14:06 RealBadAngel because i didnt make it and 2nd theres one more button in multiplayer
14:06 RealBadAngel to change password
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14:13 hmmmm guys anybody
14:14 RealBadAngel hi
14:14 MinetestBot hi RealBadAngel
14:14 hmmmm if anybody would like to test my branch plz
14:14 hmmmm ;-;
14:14 RealBadAngel ok
14:14 hmmmm specifically in multiplayer
14:14 RealBadAngel hmmm, and check this https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/502
14:15 hmmmm a dedicated button in the main menu for volume!?
14:16 RealBadAngel works in multiplayer
14:17 * VanessaE peeks in
14:17 VanessaE boo
14:17 VanessaE RealBadAngel: get your ass to bed already ;)
14:17 Jordach hey VanessaE
14:18 VanessaE good morning all
14:18 RealBadAngel hehe, wb
14:18 RealBadAngel i will fix that centering of the buttons thexyz noticed
14:18 Jordach heh
14:19 Jordach VanessaE, I will be using xubuntu soon
14:19 VanessaE cool
14:19 Jordach and my girlfriend upgraded yo Win Vista
14:19 Jordach to*
14:20 RealBadAngel "upgrade to Vista"?? vista only means downgrade and diseaster
14:20 * Jordach is going to back to map making
14:22 Jordach RealBadAngel, incorrect
14:22 Jordach my sister's laptop has SP1 and it works finer
14:22 Jordach -r
14:23 Jordach oh and, I shall start making minetest patches too!
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14:25 Kacey hi all
14:25 MinetestBot hi Kacey
14:25 Kacey no MinetestBot no
14:26 rubenwardy vista is bad
14:26 Kacey why?
14:28 Jordach interesting bug with PilzAdam's signs
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14:28 Jordach the : symbol doesnt rener
14:28 Jordach render
14:28 thexyz fine like in "vista"?
14:28 Jordach thexyz, not even a BSOD yet
14:31 RealBadAngel thexyz, fixed the centering
14:32 Kacey rba, today is the day for the pc?
14:33 RealBadAngel im not so sure, that sound volume thingy took more than 14 hrs to make
14:33 RealBadAngel well, most of it was learning irrlicht engine, but still
14:33 Kacey wow
14:34 RealBadAngel i need some more formspec changes, implementing some other irrlicht stuff
14:34 RealBadAngel and decided to start from simple one
14:35 RealBadAngel and it took 14hrs lol
14:36 RealBadAngel after a nap i will code lists, tabs, scroll bars and checkboxes for formspec
14:37 VanessaE go to bed :)
14:37 RealBadAngel easy, its weekend
14:37 RealBadAngel no other time i can code so long
14:38 Jordach we've got a obtuse RealBadAngle
14:38 VanessaE true
14:38 Jordach :D
14:38 VanessaE longest I've ever gone while coding is ~36 hours straight
14:38 VanessaE and that was maybe 20 years ago :)
14:38 Jordach VanessaE, must've been rather basic
14:39 Jordach :D
14:39 RealBadAngel i remember such sessions, even longer ones
14:39 Kacey 64x tp works well on my machine
14:39 VanessaE Jordach: actually it was some good, hard machine code...without an assembler yet :)
14:39 RealBadAngel Z80 assembly
14:40 Jordach VanessaE likes hard and good machine code does she... :D
14:42 VanessaE heh
14:42 * Jordach is going to hate setting up the nvidia GPU
14:42 VanessaE Jordach: use jockey.
14:42 VanessaE (I think that's the right name)
14:43 VanessaE the "hardware drivers" or "additional drivers" program.  it's pretty reliable now
14:43 Jordach VanessaE, O.O
14:43 Jordach use a "jockey"
14:43 Jordach O.O
14:45 Jordach VanessaE, squash commits with a hammer you say?
14:47 VanessaE heh
14:48 rubenwardy "add real achievements" - https://github.com/rubenwardy/awards/commit/25cdfc2b26f2c1a2ab848ab8ce1af137fc65c6e1
14:49 Kacey achievement get - "innovator"
14:49 Kacey lol
14:51 sfan5 rubenwardy: theres somethings wrong with the first and seconds acievement
14:51 sfan5 *achievement
14:51 rubenwardy huh?
14:52 rubenwardy oh yeah
14:52 rubenwardy woops
14:52 VanessaE so..
14:52 rubenwardy glad you noticed
14:52 VanessaE about the snow mod.
14:52 VanessaE do I add it to my server? :-)
14:53 Jordach VanessaE, you mean the snow biomes
14:53 VanessaE yes
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14:53 rubenwardy It is laggy and goes over other biomes
14:53 Matsetes Hi!
14:53 MinetestBot hi Matsetes
14:53 Jordach you wont get any on generated land
14:53 VanessaE actually doesn't it have active falling snow now?
14:53 rubenwardy thanks sfan5: https://github.com/rubenwardy/awards/commit/90cd09f7ca0c486415c40beef6f61eab9b348509
14:53 Matsetes Is it a way to set the spawn?
14:54 sfan5 rubenwardy: \/
14:54 sfan5 description = "You have placed 100 torches",
14:54 sfan5 13 13
14:54 sfan5 trigger={
14:54 sfan5 14 14
14:54 sfan5 type="dig",
14:54 sfan5 that seems wrong too
14:55 rubenwardy oh yeah
14:55 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/awards/commit/6b031a601d7ba394b61bcbce73c569a74625a913
14:56 Matsetes Sorry, I solved
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15:02 Jordach okay. i am now going to go file a dcma
15:02 Jordach dmca*
15:03 sfan5 Jordach: for what?
15:03 Jordach bbiab
15:03 sfan5 what is that?
15:04 Jordach http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
15:04 Jordach likwid changed the color on the default skin by me
15:04 Jordach he's got hell to pay.
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15:05 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/PhHicG4.png
15:06 Jordach no attribution.
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15:13 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XquznaCZ73A we need a bees mod...
15:13 rubenwardy Kacey: there is one
15:16 rubenwardy Kacey: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4491
15:17 Kacey nice
15:18 rubenwardy Awards mod commit - "add onDeath" - https://github.com/rubenwardy/awards/commit/4cf05cbc47b5ddab616170097673947d69e93a29
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15:34 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45TOdV8MqvM i want one :(
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15:48 Kacey Coal Coke, the new product from Coca Cola with that fresh mineshaft taste. (Warning may contain actual coal, please refrain from sniffing, breathing near, or drinking. Excess sniffing or breathing near coal coke may result in black lung. If you or or any of your loved ones have been afflicted with black lung due to coal coke please call 1-800-687-4663, that's 1-800-our-goof)
15:48 NekoGloop What the actual fuck.
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15:51 Jordach NekoGloop, same
15:52 Jordach ...and my hopes of NekoGloop joining my world is dashed
15:52 NekoGloop What?
15:52 Jordach you know, my Pokémon map project
15:52 NekoGloop Oh right.
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15:58 Jordach which i plan on the first four gens
16:01 rubenwardy hi all
16:01 MinetestBot hi rubenwardy
16:01 rubenwardy competition: say "hi" before minetestbot when somebody says "hi" in this channel
16:02 PilzAdam hi
16:02 MinetestBot hi PilzAdam
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16:02 PilzAdam winner :D
16:02 Jordach joined #minetest
16:02 Jordach hi
16:02 VanessaE hi
16:02 MinetestBot hi VanessaE
16:02 Jordach WE HAVE A WINNER
16:02 NekoGloop Cooldown.
16:02 Jordach MinetestBot, y u no say hi to me
16:02 PilzAdam Jordach, read logs
16:02 PilzAdam im the winner
16:03 Kacey hi
16:03 MinetestBot hi Kacey
16:03 Kacey hi bye
16:03 Kacey hi
16:03 PilzAdam there is no rule that says somebody != you
16:03 Kacey bye
16:03 Kacey lol broke MinetestBot
16:03 Kacey afk BREAKFAST!!!!!
16:04 Jordach PilzAdam, <rubenwardy> competition: say "hi" before minetestbot when somebody says "hi" in this channel
16:04 Jordach WHEN SOMEBODY says HI
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16:04 Jordach VanessaE clearly won
16:04 PilzAdam there is no rule that says somebody is not the winner
16:05 rubenwardy1 I am the judge. VanessaE won
16:05 Jordach did you know: on LPGC, darkrose has dug down to -10000 since october 2011
16:05 PilzAdam no rubenwardy is sthe judge
16:06 Jordach nope, rubenwardy1 is
16:06 * NekoGloop has dug down to -25000 on a local map
16:06 Jordach HAX
16:06 rubenwardy sorry for confusion
16:07 Jordach rubenwardy, get a real IRC client and not Pidign
16:07 rubenwardy what do you mean "real IRC client"
16:07 thexyz like irssi
16:08 Jordach HEXCHAT FTW
16:08 Jordach Dr. Hax uses Haxchat
16:08 rubenwardy nothing wrong with pidgin
16:09 thexyz weechat is ok too
16:09 Jordach yes there ios
16:09 Jordach is
16:10 rubenwardy explain
16:11 Jordach because x-chat does more
16:11 rubenwardy does it support fb and msn?
16:11 rubenwardy and skype?
16:12 Jordach theres an app for that
16:12 rubenwardy ahh
16:12 thexyz you may use pidgin for fb/msn/etc and irssi for irc
16:12 thexyz because it owns.
16:13 rubenwardy anyway, that timeout was because the router glitched
16:13 thexyz pidgin doesn't support splits
16:14 Jordach rubenwardy, you has shitty router
16:14 Jordach go buy homehub3
16:14 rubenwardy I have homehub2 :(
16:14 thexyz pidgin doesn't support custom higlight
16:14 rubenwardy custom highlight?
16:15 rubenwardy does hexchat?
16:15 thexyz dunno
16:15 Jordach it does i think
16:15 rubenwardy and what is custom highlight?
16:15 NekoGloop irssi is old.
16:16 PilzAdam xchat has custom highlight
16:16 rubenwardy there are a lot of plugins for hexchat...
16:16 thexyz NekoGloop: not really
16:16 NekoGloop It's called CLI is old and outdated.
16:16 rubenwardy jordach: what plugins should I check on the install menu
16:16 thexyz oh, you just don't get it
16:16 thexyz fine
16:16 Jordach all of em
16:17 thexyz irssi is not cli
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16:17 NekoGloop Yeah, it is.
16:18 Kacey back
16:18 MinetestBot Kacey: Welcome back!
16:18 Kacey no MinetestBot no
16:19 rubenwardy back
16:19 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Welcome back!
16:20 rubenwardy what network is this? freenode?
16:21 rubenwardy I am on the network setup list of hexchat
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16:22 * rubenwardy_ is on hexchat
16:22 rubenwardy_ does not look as good as pidgin
16:23 thexyz try irssi now
16:23 thexyz NekoGloop: what's your "cli" definition?
16:23 NekoGloop irssi looks even worse.
16:23 thexyz according to wikipedia
16:23 thexyz >A command-line interface (CLI) is a means of interaction with a computer program where the user (or client) issues commands to the program in the form of successive lines of text (command lines).
16:24 NekoGloop As in, there's just text and i input text, not input from the mouse.
16:24 thexyz oh, wait
16:24 thexyz it looks like I give a shit
16:24 thexyz should stop right now
16:25 NekoGloop Yes, you should maintain the same image as the rest of the ops here; the "I'll just ban you, kthxbai" stance.
16:25 thexyz there's no reason for me to ban you
16:26 thexyz try to use some logic, maybe?
16:26 rubenwardy calm down ladies
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16:28 thexyz rubenwardy: sure; will you try it?
16:29 rubenwardy I have seen the screen shots
16:29 NekoGloop Or you could maintain the god-complex that the core devs have.
16:29 thexyz i suggest you to use this guide http://www.antonfagerberg.com/archive/my-perfect-irssi-setup
16:29 NekoGloop Your choice.
16:30 rubenwardy_ /ignore on hexchat works, on pidgin it does not
16:30 NekoGloop To any sane person, irssi looks even worse than hexchat.
16:30 Kacey i use XChat
16:30 thexyz sadly, I don't have the right to ignore you
16:31 pierreghz NekoGloop: there are thousands of custom themes on the Internet, though.
16:31 thexyz looks better doesn't mean works better
16:31 rubenwardy_ how do you save the /msg nickserv indentify <pass> in hexchat?
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16:31 rubenwardy_ I accidently ignored thexyz on hexchat
16:31 thexyz that's ok
16:31 rubenwardy thexyz: true
16:31 NekoGloop How could one irc program work better than another.
16:31 rubenwardy I can see you on pigdin
16:32 NekoGloop rubenwardy_: For freenode you can setup the network connection to auth via SASL.
16:32 Calinou rubenwardy: /unignore thexyz
16:33 NekoGloop Also if you want the program to open directly to freenode, you can set that up as well.
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16:34 rubenwardy a ha
16:34 rubenwardy done
16:34 NekoGloop But still, how the hell would one irc client work better than another...?
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16:34 rubenwardy thexyz, say something
16:35 thexyz apparently, I expressed my thoughts wrong
16:35 NekoGloop Apparently you're just one more minetester with a god complex.
16:35 thexyz not work better, but be more convenient, has more features, etc..
16:35 thexyz NekoGloop: why?
16:36 rubenwardy for some reason i am being spammed with:  #minetest :You're not a channel operator
16:36 NekoGloop Because you firmly believe that no matter what i use, it HAS to be worse than yours.
16:36 thexyz I don't
16:36 NekoGloop Yeah, you do.
16:36 thexyz oh, sure
16:36 thexyz I almost forgot
16:36 rubenwardy and, thexyz, the /unignore command does not work
16:36 thexyz you know me better
16:37 NekoGloop Well, if you're allowed to make presumptous statements about me, the inverse applies as well.
16:38 rubenwardy found the ignore list button
16:38 Calinou rubenwardy: /ignore thexyz NOSAVE
16:38 Calinou dirty hack but should work
16:38 Calinou or just use the GUI :P
16:38 thexyz you, like, interfered into that conversation and now you're claiming "Because you firmly believe that no matter what i use, it HAS to be worse than yours."
16:38 thexyz sure, sure
16:38 rubenwardy it is ok, I deleted the row from the ignore list dialog
16:38 rubenwardy and can see him no
16:38 rubenwardy w
16:39 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taf2kSXWmwg someone with more musical talent than me should make this with mesecons.
16:39 rubenwardy hexchat is actually quite good
16:39 rubenwardy (pidgin's logo is better)
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16:42 rubenwardy that was confusing
16:43 NekoGloop Hm?
16:44 rubenwardy client problems
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16:47 * Kacey wishes he had a tbm on Menche's server
16:47 * Jordach high fives rubenwardy for using hexchart
16:47 Jordach chat*
16:47 rubenwardy yeah! ....
16:48 rubenwardy It also minimises to icon bar...
16:49 Kacey just found a huge vein of mithril
16:50 NekoGloop Indeed it does
16:51 NekoGloop I do believe that is configurable though. Might be wrong.
16:51 rubenwardy that was the client problem.
16:51 rubenwardy I thought I closed the client
16:51 rubenwardy so I opened another one
16:52 shadowjay1 joined #minetest
16:53 Kacey finding mithril, mese, anything besides nyancat
16:54 NekoGloop Good for you.
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17:00 Jordach NekoGloop, the MC johto weighs in at about 200mb, mine so far is 3.3mb
17:00 NekoGloop Of course.
17:01 VanessaE how do I make sure my mapgen code always runs *after* someone else's?  (namely snow biomes)
17:01 Jordach !up 81.155.108.41
17:02 Jordach !up 81.155.108.41 30000
17:02 * Jordach has noticed the bot went mia
17:03 NekoGloop !up my.ass.com
17:03 NekoGloop Interesting.
17:03 Kacey http://youtu.be/L2AMmevBzfc
17:03 Jordach NekoGloop, classy
17:03 rubenwardy VanessaE: not possible
17:03 VanessaE damn
17:03 rubenwardy or, maybe you could use a mod namespace beginning with z
17:03 rubenwardy your mod would be loaded last
17:03 Jordach minetest.wait
17:03 Jordach minetest.timer silly vanessa
17:04 Jordach on_generated(minetest.timer(shit))
17:04 VanessaE oh sure, and make the whole damn mod slow down? no way
17:04 Jordach PilzAdam, bug for you signs: [signs] W: unknown symbol in '<- Route: xyz' at 9 (probably :)
17:05 rubenwardy Achievements Mod - commit: https://github.com/rubenwardy/awards/commit/01059d0af48ebdebace86669684fdbdf79cb7f83
17:05 rubenwardy "You're a witch" achievement - burn to death in a fire
17:05 Jordach Burn the witch!
17:06 Jordach also my world is at: 81.155.108.41:30000
17:06 rubenwardy Burn the witch would actually be a better award title...
17:06 rubenwardy do you think?
17:06 Jordach i was in the monty python mood
17:06 NekoGloop VanessaE: depends.txt
17:07 rubenwardy yeah, the holy grail is great
17:07 VanessaE I don't want to depend on the snow mod, merely be compatible withit.
17:07 Jordach hey look, withit is getto speak
17:08 VanessaE :P
17:08 rubenwardy init, jordach
17:08 Jordach init.lua too
17:08 rubenwardy getto/init.lua
17:09 Jordach in built translater
17:09 rubenwardy getto.ai:respond("VanessaE: depends.txt",NekoGloop)
17:09 proller VanessaE, can you try finite luquids with pipes ?
17:09 Jordach ./ghetto this is going to transizzeled
17:09 VanessaE proller: go ahead :-)
17:10 VanessaE proller: all it does is add a water_source at the spigot like once a second (if the abm is on time)
17:10 VanessaE so it might actually work as expected
17:10 rubenwardy I think he means input as well
17:10 VanessaE (except it doesn't remove water at the pump, so water isn't being moved,per se)
17:11 Kacey http://www.cafepress.com/dd/75722471
17:11 proller water may end 8)
17:12 Kacey minetest merchandise
17:14 Jeija joined #minetest
17:15 Kacey hi Jeija
17:15 whirm1 joined #minetest
17:16 rubenwardy ping!
17:16 rubenwardy Minetest: should I eat a bot?
17:17 rubenwardy MinetestBot: should I eat a bot?
17:17 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Don't eat me D:
17:17 rubenwardy should I eat a kitten?
17:17 MinetestBot rubenwardy: I don't recommend eating kittens
17:17 rubenwardy should I eat a pupp?
17:17 MinetestBot rubenwardy: If it's acid, no, otherwise yes
17:17 rubenwardy should I eat a puppy?
17:17 MinetestBot rubenwardy: If it's acid, no, otherwise yes
17:18 rubenwardy should I eat sfan5?
17:18 MinetestBot rubenwardy: If it's acid, no, otherwise yes
17:18 sfan5 should I eat you?
17:18 MinetestBot sfan5: Don't eat me D:
17:18 Kacey should i eat everyone
17:18 MinetestBot Kacey: If it's acid, no, otherwise yes
17:18 Kacey should i eat acid?
17:18 MinetestBot Kacey: If it's acid, no, otherwise yes
17:18 rubenwardy should i eat
17:19 Kacey should i eat rubenwardy
17:19 MinetestBot Kacey: If it's acid, no, otherwise yes
17:19 sfan5 should i drink acid
17:19 MinetestBot sfan5: If it's acid, no, otherwise yes
17:19 rubenwardy should i eat Kacey's mum?
17:19 Kacey can i eat a kitten?
17:19 MinetestBot rubenwardy: If it's acid, no, otherwise yes
17:19 rubenwardy should I eat a kitten
17:19 MinetestBot rubenwardy: I don't recommend eating kittens
17:20 Kacey !ping
17:20 TForsman joined #minetest
17:20 Kacey lol that should return something hilarious
17:20 rubenwardy hi everydickhead
17:20 MinetestBot hi rubenwardy
17:20 NekoGloop MinetestBot: Can i eat myself
17:20 rubenwardy where can I get a mod?
17:20 MinetestBot rubenwardy: http://www.minetest.net/download.php  Please note that it is recommend to compile Minetest yourself if you use GNU/Linux
17:21 Kacey where can i get a dog?
17:21 MinetestBot Kacey: http://www.minetest.net/download.php  Please note that it is recommend to compile Minetest yourself if you use GNU/Linux
17:21 Kacey D:
17:21 * Kacey wonders if Kaceybot still works
17:21 sfan5 kaceybot is banned
17:22 rubenwardy !user rubenwardy
17:22 rubenwardy !u rubenwardy
17:23 rubenwardy meh
17:23 sfan5 !sfu rubenwardy
17:23 MinetestBot rubenwardy Member 883 posts, registered on 2012-06-12 | id: 2051
17:23 sfan5 ^ rubenwardy
17:23 rubenwardy a ha
17:23 sfan5 Where can i download a server
17:23 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.minetest.net/download.php  Please note that it is recommend to compile Minetest yourself if you use GNU/Linux
17:23 rubenwardy !sfu potato
17:23 rubenwardy !sfp potato
17:23 sfan5 rubenwardy: use *potato*
17:23 rubenwardy *potato*
17:23 sfan5 ...
17:24 sfan5 no
17:24 rubenwardy !sfu *potato*
17:24 sfan5 !sfu *potato*
17:24 MinetestBot pornopotatoe New member 0 posts, registered on 2012-06-05 | id: 1979
17:24 MinetestBot superpotatoes1989 New member 2 posts, registered on 2012-08-10 | id: 2684
17:24 sfan5 !unignore rubenwardy
17:24 sfan5 hm
17:24 rubenwardy !sfu *craft*
17:24 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit
17:24 sfan5 it will come bakc
17:24 sfan5 *back
17:25 * rubenwardy will stop playing :D
17:25 MinetestBot joined #minetest
17:25 sfan5 ^ rubenwardy
17:25 rubenwardy !sfu *craft*
17:25 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Too many matches: 30
17:25 rubenwardy lol
17:25 sfan5 rubenwardy: use query
17:25 Kacey im not an op on my own channel...
17:25 rubenwardy it may not be your channel, then
17:26 Kacey ##kacey is registered to me
17:26 rubenwardy 100% of these usernames are newbies: http://forum.minetest.net/userlist.php?username=*craft*&amp;show_group=-1&amp;sort_by=username&amp;sort_dir=ASC&amp;search=Search
17:26 rubenwardy interesting correlation
17:27 sfan5 !sfu *swag*
17:27 MinetestBot Dope Swag Legion New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-01-19 | id: 4055
17:27 MinetestBot waffleswag2 New member 0 posts, registered on 2012-10-28 | id: 3389
17:27 MinetestBot whiteboyswag New member 1 posts, registered on Today | id: 4395
17:27 rubenwardy swag = secretly we are gay
17:27 MinetestBot joined #minetest
17:27 Jordach o hai MinetestBot
17:28 MinetestBot hi Jordach
17:28 Kacey !ping
17:28 Kacey still no?
17:28 sfan5 still no!
17:28 rubenwardy !ping localhost
17:28 rubenwardy any achievement ideas?
17:28 Kacey !up 127.0.0.1
17:28 MinetestBot 127.0.0.1:30000 seems to be down
17:28 Kacey lol
17:29 Kacey "Collecting Wood"
17:29 rubenwardy boring
17:29 Kacey dig 5 tree blocks
17:29 rubenwardy there is a lumber jack one
17:29 sfan5 !up 127.0.0.1 30011
17:29 Kacey "Teh 1337 of All"
17:29 Kacey dig a nyan cat
17:29 sfan5 !up 127.0.0.1 30011
17:29 MinetestBot 127.0.0.1:30011 seems to be down
17:29 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/awards/blob/master/init.lua#L21
17:29 MinetestBot 127.0.0.1:30011 seems to be down
17:30 rubenwardy dig a nyan cat would be goo
17:30 rubenwardy d
17:30 NekoGloop "1337 tools" - Get a full set of wooden tools.
17:30 Kacey lol
17:30 Kacey "Oops" fall to death
17:31 Jordach rubenwardy, point is: anyone with *craft in their names are generally idiots
17:31 rubenwardy yeah
17:32 KaceyCraft hey
17:32 rubenwardy /ignore kaceycraft
17:32 rubenwardy actually, /ignore *craft* all
17:32 Kacey aah
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17:34 Kacey http://open.spotify.com/track/1Q2fYlSdwuutWj3QplhY9q
17:35 sfan5 !sfu *minecraft*
17:35 MinetestBot sfan5: Too many matches: 12
17:35 sfan5 wut?
17:36 sfan5 !sfulimit sfan5 13
17:36 MinetestBot Limit set.
17:36 sfan5 !sfu *minecraft*
17:36 MinetestBot hostminecraft24 New member 1 posts, registered on 2012-11-17 | id: 3616
17:36 * Jordach destorys the spotify link with fire
17:36 MinetestBot minecraft New member 0 posts, registered on 2011-11-11 | id: 597
17:36 MinetestBot minecraft1440 New member 0 posts, registered on Yesterday | id: 4393
17:36 MinetestBot minecraft144o New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-02-05 | id: 4220
17:36 MinetestBot minecraft22 New member 4 posts, registered on 2013-01-07 | id: 3991
17:36 MinetestBot minecraft555 New member 0 posts, registered on 2012-07-07 | id: 2302
17:36 MinetestBot minecraft64 Member 16 posts, registered on 2012-07-22 | id: 2469
17:36 MinetestBot minecraftfreak1476 New member 0 posts, registered on 2012-08-24 | id: 2799
17:36 MinetestBot Minecraftingsam New member 0 posts, registered on 2012-08-08 | id: 2665
17:36 MinetestBot thaminecrafter29 New member 1 posts, registered on 2012-02-27 | id: 1408
17:36 MinetestBot tobarominecraft New member 1 posts, registered on 2012-09-29 | id: 3118
17:36 MinetestBot too poor for minecraft New member 1 posts, registered on 2012-06-10 | id: 2043
17:36 rubenwardy !sfu *minetest*
17:36 sfan5 !sfulimit sfan5 reset
17:36 Jordach "too poor for minecraft New member 1 posts, registered on 2012-06-10 | id: 2043"
17:36 MinetestBot Limit reset.
17:36 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Too many matches: 16
17:36 Jordach lol
17:36 sfan5 Jordach: :D
17:37 Jordach !sfu *Jorda*
17:37 MinetestBot Jordach Member 2,762 posts, registered on 2011-10-03 | id: 332
17:37 MinetestBot jordan4ibanez Member 1,635 posts, registered on 2011-09-27 | id: 312
17:37 MinetestBot jordan4ibanez1 New member 0 posts, registered on 2012-03-28 | id: 1556
17:37 MinetestBot Jordankae Banned 1 posts, registered on 2012-10-29 | id: 3397
17:37 MinetestBot Jordanlw New member 4 posts, registered on 2011-12-02 | id: 899
17:37 MinetestBot jordanperks3 New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-01-25 | id: 4119
17:37 * Jordach gets first dibs!
17:37 rubenwardy !sfu *ruben*
17:37 MinetestBot rubenwardy Member 883 posts, registered on 2012-06-12 | id: 2051
17:37 rubenwardy # one of a kind #
17:37 Jordach in other news: http://imgur.com/7lGVBsu
17:38 Kacey !sfu *Kace*
17:38 MinetestBot Kacey Member 84 posts, registered on 2012-05-05 | id: 1770
17:38 rubenwardy !sfu *ward*
17:38 MinetestBot ashleyhowardj84 New member 0 posts, registered on 2011-11-16 | id: 643
17:38 MinetestBot DERICKWARD2000@YAHOO.COM New member 0 posts, registered on 2012-07-09 | id: 2337
17:38 MinetestBot EdwardK New member 2 posts, registered on 2013-02-07 | id: 4241
17:38 MinetestBot MorganEdwards New member 1 posts, registered on 2013-02-02 | id: 4193
17:38 MinetestBot rubenwardy Member 883 posts, registered on 2012-06-12 | id: 2051
17:38 pierreghz joined #minetest
17:38 Kacey #1337#
17:38 * Jordach wonders why im the first on *Jorda* in the listing
17:39 Kacey 2,762 posts
17:39 Jordach :D
17:39 sfan5 !sfu sfan5
17:39 MinetestBot sfan5 Moderator 2,087 posts, registered on 2011-08-24 | id: 239
17:39 rubenwardy what does "1337" mean
17:39 Kacey is there a way to search for id?
17:39 rubenwardy !sfu *sfan*
17:39 MinetestBot sfan5 Moderator 2,087 posts, registered on 2011-08-24 | id: 239
17:40 NekoGloop rubenwardy: "leet" meaning elite;
17:40 Kacey ooh Jeija i made a crafting for vertical mesecons
17:40 sfan5 !sfu *nyan*
17:40 MinetestBot jenyangel New member 0 posts, registered on 2012-10-11 | id: 3220
17:40 MinetestBot nyancrafter Member 17 posts, registered on 2012-07-18 | id: 2428
17:40 rubenwardy Kacey: http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=<id>
17:40 Kacey http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=1337
17:41 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=69
17:41 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=42
17:41 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=2051
17:42 Kacey http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=1
17:44 rubenwardy !joke
17:45 Kacey !joke
17:45 Kacey VERSION HexChat 2.9.4 [x86] / Windows 7 [2.60GHz] rubenwardy
17:46 rubenwardy ...
17:47 Kacey :D
17:47 Kacey afk
17:49 Kacey back
17:50 PilzAdam brb
17:50 Kacey back
17:50 rubenwardy qwerty
17:50 rubenwardy q
17:51 PilzAdam joined #minetest
17:53 thexyz Jordach: that's not a bug
17:53 Jordach im just awesome.
17:53 thexyz wtf with all this flooding
17:54 thexyz Jordach: your font doesn't have ":" symbol
17:54 Jordach thexyz, the flood refers to a infection that can either take dead organisms or living ones and can turn them into "zombies"
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17:55 VanessaE hey tango_
17:55 VanessaE er
17:55 VanessaE Taoki:
17:56 Taoki hi :)
17:56 * Jordach hands rubenwardy a piece of Galaxy caramel
17:56 VanessaE (now where is the logic there?  xchat got stupid that time)
17:56 rubenwardy ummmm
17:56 * rubenwardy prefers bonville, actually
17:56 rubenwardy :P
17:56 Jordach bourneville*
17:58 Jordach in future, the player needs three more anims, flight, falling and swimming
18:00 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on VanessaE's head
18:00 * VanessaE puts the kitten in OldCoder's pile
18:00 NekoGloop So did github finally stop being a dick and accept that i pushed something
18:00 VanessaE not that I saw, hold a sec.
18:00 VanessaE nope.
18:00 VanessaE it didn't go in.
18:01 VanessaE maybe you pushed only to your fork?
18:01 NekoGloop I don't have a fork...?
18:01 VanessaE well, you sorta do.  when you cloned mine and made changes, it became a fork
18:01 VanessaE when you push, it goes to wherever
18:02 sfan5 i just made a lua mod crash minetest
18:02 Jordach sfan5, CONGRATS
18:02 VanessaE (in this case, I'd have thought it would go to my repo since you didn't change the push destination)
18:02 sfan5 crash -> segfault
18:02 Jordach but.....MOBF beat you there
18:03 VanessaE sfan5: jumping.  put two trampolines one above the other, 2m apart.  Set both to their max power.  Jump onto the lower one.  Watch the client lock up.
18:03 Jordach !up 81.155.108.41 30000
18:03 MinetestBot 81.155.108.41:30000 is up (0.204ms)
18:03 rubenwardy bye
18:03 sfan5 bb
18:04 NekoGloop VanessaE: Well technically that's just momentum being brought up to the trillions in seconds.
18:04 VanessaE yep, and it makes the client go haywire :-)
18:04 Jordach \O/
18:04 Jordach NekoGloop just said something smart
18:05 Jordach \O/
18:05 NekoGloop Oh shit
18:06 * Jordach hopes NekoGloop can visit my world
18:07 NekoGloop I'd visit but my ability to convert 2d buildings to 3d buildings isn't good :3
18:07 Jordach NekoGloop, you can still look around
18:07 NekoGloop I know
18:07 Jordach and VanessaE has already seen my algorithm for converting them by hand
18:08 NekoGloop Are you modelling the land to look like japan? (The pokemon regions up to Gen IV were based on japan)
18:08 Jordach NekoGloop, this is all done through this overworld map: http://www.vgmaps.com/Atlas/GB-GBC/Pokemon-GSC-Johto.png
18:08 Jordach just get your ass to 81.155.108.41 30000
18:08 NekoGloop So the regions aren't contigous?
18:09 Jordach excluding kanto and johto
18:09 Jordach hoenn is considered an island
18:09 Jordach unova is a new continent
18:09 NekoGloop Yet nintendo has confirmed that kanto, johto, hoenn, and sinnoh are all part of a fictional japan.
18:10 Jordach hoenn == Senkaku islands?
18:10 NekoGloop I believe so.
18:10 Jordach (which the japan fighting china for is laughable)
18:11 NekoGloop http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/09/59/43035909/photos/pokemon-maps-and-fakemon/Pokemon_World_Map_by_Cadellin.png
18:11 Jordach last time i checked, there werent NO VOLCANO in the middle of an island
18:12 NekoGloop What?
18:12 Jordach (hoenn in irl location)
18:12 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44jt-Fu19X4
18:12 NekoGloop Ah, been a while since i've played gen III.
18:13 NekoGloop Obviously there's some differences in this and in irl japan.
18:13 Jordach sfan5, failed to emerge player
18:14 sfan5 :(
18:14 sfan5 try to delete my player file
18:14 Jordach shut the serv. down
18:15 Jordach !up 81.155.108.41 30000
18:15 MinetestBot 81.155.108.41:30000 is up (0.203ms)
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18:18 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129
18:18 MinetestBot 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.312ms)
18:23 Jordach NekoGloop, come visit
18:23 NekoGloop Later
18:23 * Jordach wont be here in an hour
18:23 Jordach but im here all day tomorrow
18:23 * Jordach has almost finished the first route
18:24 mauvebic for the warp engines, should i use blue & red animated liquids or solid nodes w/ lighting?
18:24 Jordach solid nodes with anim
18:25 mauvebic hmm, id have to add the grey inanimate stuff too for then the engines are off
18:25 Jordach use a on punch for on/off
18:26 Jordach or mesecons
18:26 mauvebic naw came up with something for that :-) i have plasma and pipeworks, im going to run plasma conduits through the ship
18:26 * Jordach claps
18:27 mauvebic + how often do you find wires on the ships except when everythings' exploding lol
18:27 mauvebic new part: http://www.zimg.eu/i/2970231449
18:28 mauvebic + not sure if mesecons measures quantities, but pipeworks has a pressure value which could come in handy
18:29 mauvebic the bridge is a pain in the ass to get right lol thankfully they never used the same set for any two galaxy class ships lol
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18:35 Oblivion1500 hello all!
18:38 mauvebic howdy
18:38 mauvebic weird the bot didnrt say hi
18:38 sfan5 oh...
18:38 VanessaE hi
18:38 sfan5 !ai enable
18:38 MinetestBot AI enabled.
18:38 sfan5 i forgot that
18:38 sfan5 hi
18:38 MinetestBot hi sfan5
18:38 NekoGloop hai
18:39 NekoGloop :3
18:39 Oblivion1500 lol
18:39 mauvebic hehe no biggie :p
18:39 NekoGloop Hai doesn't count?
18:39 PilzAdam Hai is german for shark
18:39 mauvebic but youre not a bat
18:39 mauvebic *bot
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18:43 sfan5 PilzAdam: what type of german is this? http://i.imgur.com/Bh9u5Lq.png
18:44 PilzAdam Turkish
18:44 sfan5 haha
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18:46 mauvebic no one will mind if i forget deanna troys' chair/office?
18:46 Jordach yup
18:46 mauvebic i mean,... those leotards
18:47 mauvebic (sp?)
18:47 mauvebic her mother was funny though
18:50 * VanessaE mumbles something about a chalice and rings..
18:50 mauvebic lwaxana Troy, daughter of the fifth house, holder of the sacred chalice of Rixx, and heir to the Holy Rings of Betazed
18:51 VanessaE you know, there's something wrong with you if you can remember that thing word-for-word :)
18:52 mauvebic but for the life of me i cant remember real names and ages and phone numbers lol
18:52 VanessaE lol
18:52 mauvebic i guess its a picture memory thing
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18:52 proller sfan5, your last windows builld wants freetype6.dll
18:52 VanessaE gave up mint for suse?
18:53 AspireSuse Hello
18:53 MinetestBot hi AspireSuse
18:53 VanessaE well shit, now I suppose I have to reset your username and password? ;)
18:53 proller sfan5, and zlib1.dll
18:53 AspireSuse O.O
18:53 MinetestBot AspireSuse: What are you wondering about?
18:53 AspireSuse testing xchat on suse x)
18:54 mauvebic works the same everywher?
18:54 sfan5 proller: read the first post
18:55 proller ups. sorry
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18:55 PilzAdam proller, use mine, they have it already
18:56 AspireSuse this xchat is strange :S dont see who is online, and connecting is difficult
18:56 AspireSuse bye
18:56 mauvebic looks like mirc to me lol
18:56 artur99 i cant use more than 1 link or 1 image in a post
18:56 artur99 on forum
18:56 artur99 why?
18:57 PilzAdam you can
18:57 mauvebic are you nesting them all?
18:58 VanessaE artur99: how many posts do you have on the forums?
18:58 artur99 0
18:59 artur99 i tried to put an image and a link, but i cant...
19:00 mauvebic [img]monkeys[/img]
19:00 mauvebic [url=monkeys.com]Monkeys[/url]
19:02 thexyz antispam!
19:03 mauvebic montypython?
19:04 thexyz artur99: you can only put 1 link in your first message
19:04 thexyz try posting it with 1 link and then editing
19:04 artur99 ok
19:15 artur99 i tried, but apears the same think
19:20 artur99 *thing
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19:28 ShadowNinja Jeija: I found a bug in mesecons pressure plates
19:31 proller finite liquid + float lands = swimming in dropping lake in air
19:32 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, what is it?
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19:34 Octupus Hi
19:34 MinetestBot hi Octupus
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19:36 ShadowNinja place a pressure plate, place something like a lightstone two nodes below, stand on the pressure plate and dig it, the lightstone won't de-power
19:36 ShadowNinja it works if the lightstone is to the side and below
19:38 Kacey back
19:38 MinetestBot Kacey: Welcome back!
19:39 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, I have a lightstone, dirt above that, and a pressure plate on top of the dirt block and everything works fine
19:41 ShadowNinja dig the pressure plate while standing on it
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19:41 sfan5 ShadowNinja: i can confirm the bug
19:42 PilzAdam with digging the plate I get the bug too
19:43 Kacey making bricks making bricks...
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19:53 meldrian hi there minetestcrew
19:54 * Kacey isnt crew
19:55 PilzAdam hey meldrian
19:56 Kacey hi
19:56 MinetestBot hi Kacey
19:56 Kacey no MinetestBot no
19:58 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129
20:02 Kacey my world seems to have only sand...
20:26 Kacey back (again
20:26 MinetestBot Kacey: Welcome back!
20:26 Kacey )*
20:27 thexyz hm..
20:27 thexyz how to compile minetest?
20:27 MinetestBot thexyz: There is a detailed guide at https://raw.github.com/celeron55/minetest/master/README.txt for compiling minetest on windows and linux, if you have a mac.. ..no luck
20:27 thexyz where can i download minetest?
20:27 MinetestBot thexyz: http://www.minetest.net/download.php  Please note that it is recommend to compile Minetest yourself if you use GNU/Linux
20:27 VanessaE bad bot!  no cookie for you!
20:28 thexyz thanks
20:28 VanessaE :)
20:28 thexyz MinetestBot: thanks
20:28 thexyz thank you MinetestBot
20:28 MinetestBot thexyz: Although i'm only a bot I appreciate your thanks.
20:28 VanessaE and since compiling for windows is outside of most win users' abilities, the bot should point specifically to the linux-specific instructions
20:29 * thexyz hugs MinetestBot
20:29 MinetestBot thexyz:  :D
20:29 thexyz that shouldn't be called AI anyway
20:29 MiJyn yeah
20:30 MiJyn it's like an automated response
20:30 thexyz it is
20:30 thexyz see sfan5's repo
20:30 sfan5 http://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules
20:31 PilzAdam MinetestBot should post that link if you ask "Where are you from?"
20:31 sfan5 good idea
20:34 mauvebic Qo'nos, naturally
20:36 Kacey my legit build is doing good
20:36 Kacey anyone want to join?
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20:37 Kacey john_minetest, want to join my legit-build server?
20:38 john_minetest maybe later. atm I am reading.
20:38 Kacey k
20:38 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129
20:38 MinetestBot 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.311ms)
20:39 artur99 How is this mod: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4884 . Its my first mod...
20:40 Kacey ShadowNinja, lol i see you connecting
20:42 Kacey you timed out
20:44 * ShadowNinja wishes the freetype version had a loading bar/percent
20:44 Kacey lol me too
20:45 ShadowNinja well tell me if I time out again
20:48 john_minetest artur99: I like the mod, especially the one-way-mirror :D
20:48 Kacey idk if cactus grows without farming
20:49 Kacey youu timed out again
20:49 PilzAdam Kacey, cactus growing is a feature of farming
20:49 Kacey and papyrus
20:50 PilzAdam yep
20:53 Kacey timed out again
20:54 * ShadowNinja gives up
20:55 ShadowNinja are you able to advertize to the server list?
20:56 MinetestBot joined #minetest
20:56 sfan5 ShadowNinja: which server list?
20:56 sfan5 !ar enable
20:56 PilzAdam sfan5, the new automatic server list
20:57 sfan5 IIRC you can do that
20:57 PilzAdam you just set server_announve = 1 and it will be in the public server list
20:57 sfan5 where did MinetestBot come from?
20:57 sfan5 ...come on MinetestBot , you're supposed to answer
20:58 ShadowNinja I tried that and it doesn't work
20:58 PilzAdam <sfan5> !ar enable
20:58 sfan5 it ignored that
20:58 PilzAdam shouldnt it be ai?
20:58 sfan5 !ar enable
20:58 sfan5 no i renamed it
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20:58 sfan5 silly me i forgot something
20:58 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload ar
20:58 MinetestBot sfan5: ar: no such module!
20:58 sfan5 what?
20:58 sfan5 oh..
20:58 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload aresp
20:58 MinetestBot sfan5: aresp: no such module!
20:59 sfan5 ?
20:59 sfan5 hi jordan4ibanez
20:59 MinetestBot joined #minetest
20:59 jordan4ibanez Hey sfan5
20:59 sfan5 !ar enable
20:59 MinetestBot AR enabled.
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21:00 sfan5 where did MinetestBot come from?
21:00 MinetestBot sfan5: I come from https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules
21:01 PilzAdam MinetestBot, why dont you simply pipe all the messages to cleverbot or so and post the results?
21:02 MinetestBot because cleverbot is .... well... not always nice
21:03 Kacey lol
21:08 Kacey broke bookmarks mod...
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21:15 artur99 going to sleep, bye!
21:15 sfan5 bye
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21:15 sokomine hi
21:15 MinetestBot hi sokomine
21:16 sokomine hmpf. now i get greeted by a bot
21:16 PilzAdam sokomine, we all have to live with that...
21:16 sokomine :-)
21:17 Kacey hello
21:17 MinetestBot hi Kacey
21:17 Kacey >:(
21:17 NekoGloop joined #minetest
21:19 Kacey need to find a way around MinetestBot
21:20 sokomine maybe just h i all might work
21:21 Kacey lol
21:23 Menche joined #minetest
21:24 * Kacey wants to make a storage tank mod
21:25 Kacey but idk ANY lua that would help besides minetest.register_node and craft
21:26 sokomine what is it supposed to store?
21:26 ShadowNinja pipeworks has them, non-functional unfourtunately
21:26 Kacey water for now
21:27 Kacey but big ones that are not just one node high
21:27 Kacey make them as high as you want lol
21:28 sokomine in that case you can build them normally with the materials you find in the game
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21:28 Kacey but they drain when pumped out
21:29 Menche the current water system makes all this useless
21:35 sokomine ok, pumping them out would be a bit difficult....
21:35 sokomine such a huge water tank could look impressive
21:35 ShadowNinja grrr, minetest doesn't work with unix pipes either so --trace and --verbose are useless
21:36 Menche ?
21:37 ShadowNinja trying to get the serverlist working
21:37 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGx5hUWB5S4 we need one :P
21:38 Menche minetest overwrote some of the values in my minetest.conf
21:38 Menche i had server_announce = 1 set
21:38 Menche i started the server,  noticed that server_announce was 0, and stopped the server
21:39 Menche i opened the file; minetest had changed server_announce to 0
21:39 ShadowNinja I can confirm it is on in-game
21:39 jordan4ibanez I heard an alert message but Nothing popped up
21:39 jordan4ibanez Oh yea, menche, sfan5 is here
21:40 PilzAdam Menche, if you start the server in the GUI you have to check the checkbox at the "SERVER" area
21:40 ShadowNinja and it is 0 out-game, what?
21:40 Menche i made my minetest.conf read-only so minetest can't change the value
21:40 ShadowNinja still nothing
21:41 ShadowNinja I'll try that
21:41 Menche also, i see another option: server_dedicated = 1
21:41 Menche not sure how it got there
21:41 Menche but minetest seemed to like setting it to 0
21:42 Menche some of the trouble was probably because my server and my client share a conf file
21:44 Kacey how do i open server from GUI?
21:45 Menche from the "advanced" tab
21:45 ShadowNinja chmoded 444 and nothing
21:45 Kacey ooh i thought there was a seperate thing for servers
21:46 Menche yes, minetestserver, for CLI
21:46 * Menche doesn't understand chmod numbers
21:46 Menche i used "a-w"
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21:46 ShadowNinja it means -r--r--r--
21:47 ShadowNinja aka read only for everyone but root
21:47 Menche and server_announce is set to 1 in the file?
21:47 Menche and you restarted?
21:47 ShadowNinja yes
21:48 Menche who wrote this patch? they need to fix it
21:48 ShadowNinja but why is it failing?
21:49 Menche is serverlist_url "servers.minetest.NET", not "servers.minetest.RU"?
21:50 Menche and i'm not sure what this means, but server_dedicated = 1
21:50 proller server_dedicated is only for sending flag
21:50 ShadowNinja yes
21:50 proller serverlist_url is ok
21:50 proller and all is ok and working
21:51 ShadowNinja then any idea why it doesn't work for me?
21:51 ShadowNinja any way I can get some debug info?
21:52 proller your server is not pingable by master server
21:52 Menche does json require any other ports to be open?
21:53 proller no
21:53 ShadowNinja it is online now, I only opened 30000
21:53 proller it send game packet to udp on your game port
21:54 ShadowNinja !up 67.241.154.164
21:55 ShadowNinja sfan5: can you re-enable the !up
21:56 ShadowNinja well you can try connecting, !up has returned it is up before and it uses the same method afaik
21:58 proller ShadowNinja, do you see in console after server start 01:57:50: ACTION[ServerThread]: announcing to servers.minetest.net
21:58 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to celeron55/minetest: Read server_announce from minetest.conf for GUI bc2e9dbaf2 2013-02-23T13:48:02-08:00 http://git.io/tTA_qQ
21:58 ShadowNinja no
21:58 ShadowNinja hmmm, I'll update
21:59 Kacey i cant push the button...
21:59 sfan5 ShadowNinja: !up should work
21:59 ShadowNinja no interact, one sec
21:59 Kacey ShadowNinja, can i be a mod on your server?
21:59 ShadowNinja !up 67.241.154.164
21:59 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, Menche, the setting of server_announce isnt ignored anymore by the GUI
21:59 proller ShadowNinja, promblem only in server_announce
22:00 sfan5 !up 67.241.154.164
22:00 MinetestBot 67.241.154.164:30000 is up (0.336ms)
22:00 sfan5 ^ ShadowNinja
22:00 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, have you compiled with cURL?
22:01 ShadowNinja yes
22:01 ShadowNinja hmmm wait
22:01 mauvebic mmmm, just ate two pizzas :p
22:01 VanessaE you didn't save any for the rest of us?
22:02 mauvebic noooo lol hadnt eaten in two days, wife only came home from hospital this morning lol
22:03 mauvebic and all she had was hospital sandwiches (yuck) lol
22:03 ShadowNinja what is the name of the curl package on ubuntu?
22:04 PilzAdam libcurl4-gnutls-dev
22:04 mauvebic ubuntu hasa package search portal on their homepage methinks
22:04 Kacey laggy...
22:05 ShadowNinja I use apt-cache search, software center is a marvel in lagggginessss
22:06 * ShadowNinja thinks curl was the issue
22:06 mauvebic what about synaptic, that still work?
22:09 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload antiabuse
22:09 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'antiabuse' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/antiabuse.py'> (version: 2013-02-23 22:06:12)
22:09 Kacey !up 67.241.154.164
22:09 MinetestBot 67.241.154.164:30000 is up (0.228ms)
22:10 ShadowNinja it works! thanks PilzAdam
22:11 ShadowNinja or at least it announces, it there a timer before it shows up?
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22:17 Kacey omg i broke ShadowNinja's server
22:19 MinetestBot joined #minetest
22:20 Kacey mega lag
22:21 Kacey i think i broke it
22:22 DpEpsilon *reads wikipedia page on Lua*
22:22 DpEpsilon I now know Lua!
22:22 jordan4ibanez Lua is a singer right?
22:23 DpEpsilon ahaha
22:23 Kacey jordan4ibanez, rba never released the pc :(
22:24 jordan4ibanez What a wiener
22:24 sfan5 !g lua
22:24 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.lua.org/
22:24 * DpEpsilon returns to lurk mode
22:24 Kacey !up 67.241.154.164
22:27 DpEpsilon vut? nyan cats?
22:28 Kacey yep
22:28 DpEpsilon huh.
22:28 DpEpsilon maybe I should play more minetest before I start reading the code
22:29 proller ShadowNinja, no timer
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22:31 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload antiabuse
22:31 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'antiabuse' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/antiabuse.py'> (version: 2013-02-23 22:30:42)
22:31 sfan5 !ar enable
22:31 MinetestBot AR enabled.
22:34 NekoGloop "antiabuse"?
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22:37 jordan4ibanez I wish there were some way we could send commands to the
22:37 jordan4ibanez Oops, anyways, I have a weird Idea
22:38 Kacey the idea?
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22:40 OldCoder Hi
22:40 MinetestBot hi OldCoder
22:41 OldCoder Who rang?
22:41 OldCoder Does somebody need something?
22:41 Kacey i need some coffee
22:42 OldCoder Kacey, Real or virtual?
22:42 OldCoder I can't help with the former
22:42 Kacey both
22:42 OldCoder Hmm. Should only need one.
22:42 jordan4ibanez I think this is the most rediculous truck I've driven http://youtu.be/7_gxpg_l1os
22:43 Kacey ive been going for a while on no sleep
22:43 OldCoder Kacey, odd. Why? Go nap.
22:43 Kacey im not tired :P
22:43 Kacey RoR? lucky...
22:44 Kacey doesnt work on linux
22:44 jordan4ibanez Yes it does
22:45 jordan4ibanez http://www.rigsofrods.com/threads/97932-Announcement-PPA-for-Ubuntu-12-04
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22:46 Kacey PPA of course
22:46 jordan4ibanez http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3463 Post 5, smart
22:48 Kacey its working...
22:49 jordan4ibanez Can I disable the server printing out EVERY SINGLE ACTION that players do?
22:49 jordan4ibanez or atleast just node dig
22:49 jordan4ibanez So I can focus on more important things, like people talking and such
22:50 Menche would piping it into sed work?
22:50 Kacey A fatal exception has occured!: OGRE EXCEPTION(6:FileNotFoundException): '/home/home/.rigsofrods/config/RoR.cfg' file not found! in ConfigFile::load at /build/buildd/ogre-1.8-1.8.1/OgreMain/src/OgreConfigFile.cpp (line 88) / url: http://wiki.rigsofrods.com/index.php?title=Error_6#ConfigFile::load
22:50 Kacey huh
22:51 jordan4ibanez maybe, but I think I'll have to edit the server.cpp or whatever to have it not do it
22:51 jordan4ibanez and kacey post it in the forum, on the thread I showed you
22:51 Kacey got it
22:52 jordan4ibanez did you install ogre?
22:53 Kacey i got the problem fixed (had to config it)
22:57 Kacey RoR crashes when i try to open a world...
22:57 jordan4ibanez Yay
22:57 jordan4ibanez Boo
22:57 jordan4ibanez You need a 0.4 map
22:57 Kacey ?
22:57 jordan4ibanez http://www.rigsofrods.com/repository/viewTag/page:1/id:871
23:00 Kacey how to i put them in?
23:01 jordan4ibanez erm
23:01 jordan4ibanez .rigsofrods/terrains
23:03 Kacey ... i failed
23:04 Kacey how do i revert the extraction?
23:05 NekoGloop VanessaE: https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/commit/516ecf9541ae5dbfe59a2457b473abaa507068fa
23:07 VanessaE jeez, that's one hell of a diff
23:07 * VanessaE predicts line ending differences
23:07 NekoGloop Go figure :)
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23:08 VanessaE thanks
23:08 VanessaE :)
23:12 VanessaE NekoGloop: something wrong wrong - note the tree ID:  this isn't against homedecor master.
23:12 PilzAdam bye
23:12 NekoGloop Then just take my damn nodebox
23:12 VanessaE bye
23:12 sfan5 bye
23:13 VanessaE NekoGloop: fork homedecor, make your changes there, push to your fork, then issue a pull request
23:13 VanessaE github's just being stupid
23:13 NekoGloop Hell no
23:13 VanessaE why not?  it only takes a couple of minutes
23:13 Kacey Segmentation fault (core dumped) RoR being stupid...
23:14 Kacey twice
23:14 NekoGloop It takes even less for you to grab the nodeboxes and add them in
23:14 VanessaE actually no it doesn't :-)
23:15 NekoGloop Well then you don't get them
23:15 VanessaE :(
23:15 NekoGloop Can't say I never tried to help.
23:18 VanessaE well I appreciate the help but you know there's a certain way we do things with git, and this is why
23:20 NekoGloop Seeing as my work is under WTFPL when I give it directly to someone I couldn't give less shits what you do with it.
23:21 VanessaE *sigh*
23:33 jordan4ibanez i wonder if I could design a small python program that starts up the server, but makes it so you can type in commands, and I'll create a mod, that checks for a file, and the file is created when the server's input (the python program) well, inputs and then the server reads the file, does the command, and then deletes the file :D
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23:36 Kacey i need to download angelscript. how do i do this?
23:38 jordan4ibanez https://launchpad.net/~aapo-rantalainen/+archive/rigsofrods
23:39 bas080 joined #minetest
23:40 VanessaE hey bas.
23:43 Kacey package 'OIS' not found
23:43 Kacey VanessaE ^
23:43 VanessaE OIS?
23:43 Kacey ya
23:44 Kacey idk what to put to get it
23:44 VanessaE no clue what that is
23:44 Kacey how do i find it?
23:45 VanessaE no idea aside from googling for it
23:45 VanessaE I haven't the faintest idea what it is
23:47 NekoGloop Just to be sure, the vines mod on Menche's server is the one by bas080, correct?
23:47 Menche yes
23:47 NekoGloop Ok. Why can't I place vines?
23:48 bas080 Hey VanessaE
23:48 Menche they drop a craftitem
23:49 NekoGloop That's... definitely a design flaw :P
23:49 bas080 If you want to decorate with it you have to use giveme
23:49 Kacey have to recompile mt...
23:50 NekoGloop That's... definitely a design flaw.
23:51 bas080 So, a "sapling" should be added?
23:52 NekoGloop The craftitem should have the ability to be placed as a node
23:53 NekoGloop Also w00t I can kill myself by climbing down
23:53 Kacey when was gettext added?
23:53 Kacey NekoGloop, swim to the bottom of the ocean, and swim up fast

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