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00:00 telek VanessaE: Interesting, it's almost seeming like some sort of lag issue, but the only load on the system is minetestserver.
00:00 jx8p "Fix it yourself, the source code is in front of your nose"
00:00 jx8p i'm happy to do that where I choose to do so :) but not where compelled to with no reasonable alternative
00:00 telek Where have you been hanging out, #gentoo? :D
00:00 mauvebic yeah the "Fix it yourself" doesn't jive too well with the other message about needing mainstream acceptance lol
00:00 mauvebic as ive frequently pointed out and been banned on lin forums for lol
00:01 mauvebic telek they're all like that :p
00:01 harrison_ cisoun1 are you related to cisoun?
00:01 harrison_ i used to know that guy
00:01 mauvebic arch is worst but thankfully they dont fuck around with source so most docs are actually accurate  and work lol
00:01 jx8p telek - i got a facefull of it when I used ubuntu for a week in 07 :(
00:01 telek I'd mind less if they'd stop arbitrarily changing APIs/ABIs
00:01 harrison_ he was from the frenchspeaking area of ch
00:01 telek jx8p: Oh whee
00:02 jx8p Also on Ubuntu. "My wireless card isn't supported" "oh, install these programs only available by compiling from source" "OK, that's a bit steep for a never-used-Linux-before but I guess I can try"
00:02 mauvebic or be like "hey alsa's broken, it could use another broken layer, shall we call it, pulse audio?" lol
00:02 telek I use some a limited subset of software that most of that stuff I've been able to avoid.
00:02 jx8p "OK, install all this junk with apt-get" "I don't have internet access!"
00:02 telek 'Drag and Drop, what's that?' :D
00:02 harrison_ mainstream acceptance lol. not bloody likely.
00:03 telek Or how about wine/x-windows not support 8bpp/16bpp anymore, even though a ton of legacy apps require it :D
00:03 jx8p not like im gonna take my big tower to my router room and set it up there just to get ethernet a few moments to fix it up <<
00:03 mauvebic naw linux is pretty much amateur hour 23 hours /day. They never bothered to make a consumption grade OS (maybe ubuntu in 07/08)
00:03 telek jx8p: That's where the usb hard disk and rsync come in :D
00:03 jx8p It's my opinion that OS X is a bit like Linux-on-the-Desktop if it was executed successfully
00:03 telek Nah
00:04 telek It's more like 'FreeBSD on the Desktop'
00:04 mauvebic i wouldn't mind OS X if it weren't for having to deal w/ apple lol
00:04 mauvebic theyre like macrosoft from 90's
00:04 jx8p UNIX POWER with ease of use adequate that my granny can use it
00:04 telek Y'know if FreeBSD had working ACPI/APM support :D
00:04 jx8p great part is telek - i can happily port most freebsd software by simply downloading and compiling. I am future proofed on OS X for a looooong time :)
00:04 mauvebic and lately lots of decent linux devs have been quitting over bad design decisions lol
00:05 jx8p as long as I can compile the latest GCC, I can compile the latest libraries and the latest software
00:05 mauvebic you should have no prob compiling minetest then
00:05 jx8p a few points of failure, but they aren't apparent to me yet
00:05 jx8p it's just the fear of endianness issues and other fun stuff that often afflicts math-heavy programs
00:05 mauvebic im not terribly pleased at the latest fads of deleting features rather than fixing the underlying bugs lol
00:06 jx8p also fear of obscure libraries that aren't maintained for PPC and have some problems
00:06 mauvebic and VLC saying things like "youre the only one using that feature" pretty much summarizes how much of a joke oss can sometimes be lol
00:07 jx8p i get that from more than just OSS sadly mauvebic :(
00:07 mauvebic you easily get why most people would rather pay than fuck around forever lol
00:07 mauvebic yeah lots of paid software is poorly written too
00:07 jx8p every major software package "you're the only one still using powerpc on a desktop"
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00:07 mauvebic games you have to buy in pieces now
00:07 jx8p lost my favourite browser to that. Opera
00:08 jx8p I have had to switch to
00:08 * jx8p pained
00:08 jx8p firefox
00:08 mauvebic heck i bought a computer in 07, 9 months later most linux dists dropped support for my GPU lol
00:08 mauvebic had to use the shittiest of drivers and subsequently had to buy a heatsink
00:08 mauvebic *better
00:09 jx8p > drivers
00:09 jx8p that's a major reason i dont trust linux
00:10 mauvebic well if they didn't constantly break shit the computer manufacturing industry and support sectors would lose half their staff lol
00:11 jx8p computer manufacturers can disappear off the face off the earth for a few years as far as i care
00:11 jx8p my powermac g5 is more powerful than most desktops today
00:11 jx8p i'd say ~85th percentile in most terms
00:11 mauvebic my P4 is still perfectly good for watching Tvs and movies and browsing lol
00:12 mauvebic run the servers off the dualcore and all is good
00:12 jx8p i really love my g5 quadcore tho
00:13 * Kacey loves his little acer
00:19 telek Hey how do you check your current coords in minetest?
00:19 telek jx8p: PCI Express?
00:20 telek If I could ever afford one I'd like one just for 'alternative' gaming.
00:20 telek Probably run linux or if DRM support is up to par, netbsd on it.
00:20 jx8p PCI-E in the Quadcore, aye
00:21 jx8p two full-length 4 lane, one full length 8 lane
00:21 jx8p same slots in dual core 2.0 and dual core 2.3
00:21 jx8p but NOT in the dual-processor variants; be ye warned
00:22 telek Hey are there new versions of the technic and unified_inventory mods out?
00:22 telek Unless it was just lag, it appears those were the two that were causing the crashes on my server.
00:22 jx8p i love how there's none of the drama in the MC mod community afflicting Minetest and sincerely hope it remains that way :)
00:23 telek What drama is there here?
00:23 telek There's like Gloop, and that racist guy from earlier.
00:24 jx8p Uhm...Well
00:24 jx8p so there's an open-source all-singing all-dancing mod API that has been developed called The Mine-Craft Forge
00:24 jx8p and almost all mods are there
00:25 jx8p Except for one, because apparently he was upset that another developer had a bunch of stuff useful for her implemented in The Minecraft Forge
00:25 jx8p so he left the Minecraft Forge, now the MCF team are re-creating his mod, or something, it's all very silly
00:25 jx8p I will let you look up "FlowerChild", "Better with Forge", "Forestry Technic Scandal", and other stuff by yourself
00:26 jx8p but it's all a bit silly for a game about making and destroying blocks
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00:26 Gambit Eloram was polluting the forge with a ton of hooks and base class modifications specific to her mod.
00:26 Gambit FlowerChild felt it should remain more general and keep the number of base class modifications low.
00:27 jx8p Is there any way that Forge could accomplish...Anything - without base class modifications in any case?
00:28 jx8p And to my best knowledge - Forge is just a wrapper around base Minecraft anyway, trying to match closely the original interfaces and structures, but preventing conflicts by two mods simultaenously modifying the same classes
00:28 Gambit Yeah but the modifications should be done to expose elements of the game to the API.
00:28 Gambit Not just including half of RedPower inside the forge.
00:28 NakedFury so e was mad Eloram was getting a  sort of special priviledge and like you said adding Forge stuff just for him/her?
00:28 telek OMG
00:28 NakedFury so he was mad at*
00:28 telek We need vehicles.
00:28 jx8p Eloraam is a woman believe it or not :P
00:28 Gambit NakedFury: Basically.
00:28 jx8p you get woman programmers- woman programmers who are very capable. what a concept, eh?
00:29 telek Then somebody needs to recreate 'Apocalypse' in minetest (The old C64 era helicopter game) :D
00:29 NakedFury were her stuff done just for her mod or could others use it?
00:29 jx8p unfortunately i never saw any specific evidence that the stuff wasn't reuseable NakedFury
00:29 Gambit NakedFury: The best analogy I can think of is activeX controls.
00:30 Gambit Completely meaningless to everything but Internet Explorer
00:30 NakedFury ohh ok
00:30 NakedFury yeah I would be mad too, I guess
00:31 jx8p I still can't find any hooks that aren't useable generally in some form
00:31 jx8p If someone can point it out I would appreciate it
00:31 NakedFury doesnt Forge have any alternative words? he could have used another word for the new api
00:31 jx8p I maintain the view of course that the generation of drama over it is inappropriate
00:32 Gambit I don't know the specifics. I'm just going by what FlowerChild said in his interview about it.
00:32 Gambit That was like a year ago.
00:32 NakedFury is flowerchild the better than wolves dude?
00:32 jx8p yeah NakedFury
00:32 Gambit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6SN4QQ_WSc <== interview here
00:32 NakedFury damn this is old and I never saw it before
00:32 jx8p the problem with Flower Child is he was found by the community at large to be interested in generating drama, and got cast out now
00:33 Gambit FlowerChild is very... gruff.
00:33 Gambit His game design text walls are always very good reads though.
00:34 NakedFury yeah specially the text walls part
00:34 NakedFury that scares away readers
00:35 jx8p http://s9.postimage.org/xrbgn8ycv/borge_banner04.png stuff like THIS is what amuses me
00:35 Gambit jx8p: So the example he gives is a hook for sticking things to the sides of cover plates.
00:36 Gambit But cover plates only exist in RedPower
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00:36 NakedFury im at that part now
00:36 Gambit And he says that hook modified many many functions across 13 base class files.
00:36 Gambit Whereas he basically wanted Forge to be single player Bukkit.
00:37 jx8p The appropriateness of that in Forge does suggest different motives
00:37 jx8p I suppose if that, why not hooks to work with other mods?
00:37 Gambit Because that's a slippery slope to massive bloating.
00:38 jx8p that's a true - I am sure Eloraam wouldn't have been averse to splitting that into a seperate API for Redpower alone though
00:38 jx8p Unless she is totally unreasonable, which I'd doubt
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01:55 * Kacey is back
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02:36 IisNotLandMine Vanessae I hope ur husband dies of his kidney problems
02:36 IisNotLandMine That fat fuckin jew
02:36 IisNotLandMine was kicked by VanessaE: IisNotLandMine
02:38 NakedFury ignorant mediocre mexican
02:40 NekoGloop Justice is swift, no?
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02:41 Kacey landmine will never learn
02:41 VanessaE probably not.
02:43 NakedFury not as if his wanted here
02:46 Gambit WOW
02:46 Gambit So that's how he trolls here?
02:46 NakedFury yep
02:46 NakedFury all the time
02:47 Gambit Jeesh. His crap in #minecraft is nothing compared to that.
02:47 VanessaE wait
02:47 VanessaE he trolls in #mc also?
02:47 Gambit Yeah.
02:47 NakedFury what sucks is that we have people that feed his troll hunger
02:47 VanessaE can't we just get this guy thrown out of the network entirely?
02:48 Gambit His #minecraft trolling usually involves insulting Minecraft and saying how Minetest is awesome and various insults directed at Notch.
02:48 VanessaE meh
02:48 Gambit Maybe he wanted us to dislike Minetest :s
02:48 VanessaE I figured you guys already did :D
02:49 Kacey i once trolled #minecraft
02:49 Kacey im banned on this ip
02:50 brandy I'm sorry he said that to you Vanessa, you can tell he is young and disrespectful
02:50 VanessaE yeah
02:50 VanessaE shit happens..
02:50 VanessaE I don't worry too much, he's just a troll saying to get any rise he can out of people.
02:50 VanessaE /ban and /kick are enough to deal with hi,m
02:50 brandy I'm not in here a whole lot thank God, I've never come across anything like that
02:50 VanessaE him*
02:52 NekoGloop VanessaE: Most already did, he didn't help much though.
02:52 VanessaE indeed..
02:53 VanessaE (thing is, I don't see a reason why anyone should need to hate on MC or MT.  Each has its place
02:53 VanessaE .)
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02:54 VanessaE oops
02:54 brandy Well, all that is just blaten disrespect. Fact is, there is no a reason to personally attack someone over the like or dislike of a game. If he were my child, I'd bend him over my knee and pray for his soul
02:54 mauvebic there must be a shitload of proxies in mexico lol
02:55 VanessaE mauvebic: I'll ban the whole fucking class A if I have to.
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02:56 Gambit lol
02:56 brandy how about this weather? :P
02:56 Kacey Gambit, can you unban me please?
02:57 Kacey or mode -q
02:57 Gambit Maybe.
02:57 hmmmm can't you just set up a bot to autoban anybody with the hostmask *LandMine*!*@*?
02:57 Gambit Not tonight.
02:57 VanessaE hmmmm: no, because he changes his user@ also.
02:57 mauvebic there are already 2 or 3 which could do such useful things yes lol
02:57 mauvebic as well as autokick for certain words
02:57 mauvebic like obstreperous
02:58 mauvebic :p
02:58 mauvebic sp? :/
02:58 VanessaE I wouldn't know how to do that anyway
02:58 mauvebic no but sfan5 and iqualifruit could
02:59 hmmmm i have that set up in a channel i moderate, irssi on a detached screen session with autoreconnect and trigger.pl to ban on certain criteria
02:59 hmmmm i found it to be quite effective
02:59 mauvebic there ya go, and its prolly customizable?
02:59 VanessaE care to put it into use here?
02:59 hmmmm not really
02:59 Kacey night all
02:59 hmmmm it's not hard to set up, really
03:00 hmmmm i just don't want added responsibility for another channel
03:00 mauvebic considering we have people competing to run bots that shouldn't be a problem to find here lol
03:14 hmmmm LandMine is here
03:15 VanessaE where?
03:17 hmmmm dunno
03:18 hmmmm i guess we just have to go through the process of elimination
03:18 hmmmm look for nicks currently here that haven't ever spoken before
03:20 sokomine might be difficult. it's a long list of users
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03:42 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/vAiRdnZ.jpg lv mv and hv grinders
03:42 VanessaE nice
03:43 RealBadAngel decided to make all mv tier blueish and hv in green
03:46 mauvebic what do they grind?
03:46 VanessaE stone -> cobble -> gravel -> dirt
03:46 VanessaE er, gravel -> sand -> dirt
03:47 RealBadAngel ingots to dusts
03:48 RealBadAngel flowers to dyes
03:48 VanessaE ok fine, prove me wrong :D
03:48 mauvebic like crafting in reverse?
03:48 RealBadAngel no, turn one stuff into another
03:49 NekoGloop Don't try to make his high-logical-thinking into what it actually is, mauv.
03:49 RealBadAngel stone  to sand, cobble to gravel
03:49 mauvebic transmutation, like bombarding with protons
03:50 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, ha ha ha :P
03:50 mauvebic would that require a nuclear type reactor or particle accelerator?
03:50 RealBadAngel no, its a basic machine
03:50 NekoGloop particle compressor, like what would be in glooptest if i wasnt being a lazyass and actually coded the damn thing.
03:51 RealBadAngel works like a furnace
03:51 RealBadAngel here are recipes: http://pastebin.com/e0egyvkz
03:52 NekoGloop The grinder does the same thing it has done for the past 5 months that it has existed.
03:54 mauvebic im waiting for a building to spawn... http://www.zimg.eu/i/2148206019
03:55 mauvebic found the bug lol
04:03 mauvebic infinity loop, we meet again
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04:18 TheZenKitteh anyone here running a linux distro equal to or greater than ubuntu precise/mint 13 that does NOT use an nvidia card willing to help me test a single file portable minetest? (latest dev)
04:20 TheZenKitteh if anyone is interested in helping the link is: https://www.dropbox.com/s/70679kg9zwhlvca/Minetest
04:20 TheZenKitteh its a single file.. needs to be made executable to run
04:21 TheZenKitteh also if you wish it to not use the config under $HOME/.minetest then use the script listed here: http://portablelinuxapps.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&amp;t=327
04:21 TheZenKitteh I just need to make sure it works without nvidia and preferably on a distro newer than mine
04:27 brandy very sad when irc makes you feel dumb lol
04:27 brandy i didnt understand hardly any of that
04:28 TheZenKitteh lol hey brandy
04:28 brandy hey
04:29 brandy i dont get any computer talk whatsover, it is far beyond my comprehension
04:29 brandy the most technical I get is logging into my account lol
04:30 TheZenKitteh lol
04:31 TheZenKitteh well if this works (hope it does) it will allow people to run minetest by downloading one file. executing one file. However I need to test it and refine it till it works right. if fails then ditch it for now
04:31 brandy oh i see
04:32 TheZenKitteh oh and that's only on linux
04:32 brandy well, we have linux and ubuntu but i dont know about any of the rest and i wouldnt have the slightest clue
04:32 NekoGloop Well of course
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04:32 TheZenKitteh for windows don't know.. likely "portableapps" would suffice for windows
04:32 NekoGloop Because fuck windows users, right?
04:32 * TheZenKitteh places a kitten on NekoGloops head
04:32 TheZenKitteh I don't use windows so cannot help users who use it
04:32 TheZenKitteh :P
04:32 brandy well,  i honestly despise windows and absolutely adore linux
04:33 TheZenKitteh my favorite flavor of linux is mint
04:33 brandy but i never had a computer in my life until 7 years ago so I dont know a whole lot about them
04:33 TheZenKitteh mint with mate
04:33 brandy i have no idea what mint is
04:33 mauvebic arch-xfce :P
04:33 TheZenKitteh my first computer I think was around 1999 or 2000
04:33 mauvebic my first computer cost that much lol
04:34 mauvebic and it was considered cheap lol
04:34 kizeren Arch-kde/blackbox
04:34 TheZenKitteh my first computer was $255
04:34 brandy i got my first when i married my husband and he is a computer geek, he had 4 of them when i met him and i didnt even know how to get on the internet lol
04:34 mauvebic more than that even
04:35 TheZenKitteh since about 2006 I've never had to purchase a computer. plenty of people throw out perfectly good ones (usually in need of better software.. aka linux)
04:35 brandy speaking of the devil, kizeren is my husband
04:35 TheZenKitteh btw hello mauvebic and kizeren
04:35 TheZenKitteh lol
04:35 brandy thats what my husband does, he fixes them for a living, does programming and maintenance and all that computer geek stuff lol
04:36 kizeren hi
04:36 brandy he's always bringing home computers, servers and tons of computer parts, they're everywhere
04:36 * TheZenKitteh does same (concerning the bringing home computers)
04:37 mauvebic ha! it works! :D
04:37 mauvebic minetest millenaire:
04:37 TheZenKitteh I don't repair computers for money however.. however might should consider it
04:37 mauvebic http://www.zimg.eu/i/2364777286
04:37 TheZenKitteh what works mauvebic?
04:37 mauvebic to http://www.zimg.eu/i/1979246152
04:37 mauvebic to http://www.zimg.eu/i/2855317067
04:37 mauvebic and finally http://www.zimg.eu/i/2164914346
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04:39 mauvebic it should now be possible to actually cover a whole map in city :D
04:39 * TheZenKitteh must have missed some parts of convo prior to my arrival
04:41 brandy idk, but i need a server to play on bf i go crazy
04:41 mauvebic well millenair is autospawning random buildings on MC :p
04:41 mauvebic my buildings aren't so crappy so it should be better lol
04:42 TheZenKitteh brandy what happened to the server you and your husband had?
04:44 kizeren Its still there.
04:45 jojoa1997 !up minetest.org 30018
04:45 Minetest-tan minetest.org:30018 seems to be down
04:45 * jojoa1997 grrr
04:45 jojoa1997 mauvbic i have been trying to see your world
04:48 mauvebic on 30019?
04:48 jojoa1997 !up minetest.org 30019
04:48 Minetest-tan minetest.org:30019 seems to be down
04:48 jojoa1997 still same
04:49 brandy server hates me today for some reason and keeps kicking me off
04:50 mauvebic oldocder told me he'd have to take the worlds down, i still dont have any kind of decent node protection on local otherwise id open that up for visits
04:50 brandy well, he's transsferring it to vps which he said will take 2 to 3 days
04:50 jojoa1997 just make the default privs fast,fly,shout
04:50 jojoa1997 and you have to grant the interact priv
04:50 brandy i was playing on his server until yesterday
04:52 jojoa1997 mauvbic you are an awsome builder. wanna help me with my hunger games server
04:52 mauvebic yeah but not tonight, still got lots of kinks to work out MTcities/millenaire lol
04:52 mauvebic i have to scan a bunch of buildings and see if they respawn ol
04:52 jojoa1997 ok could you join real quick so i can give privs
04:53 mauvebic i dont have time to build on other servers :/ can hardly keep up with pull request requests lol
04:53 mauvebic eating for the first time today lol (its midnight)
04:53 jojoa1997 ok well just keep making awsome mods
04:54 mauvebic i should be at it all night :D thanks :p
04:54 mauvebic i think, 3 pots of coffee today? not sure lol
04:54 jojoa1997 mauvebic where do you live?
04:54 TheZenKitteh well im off for the night, ttyl rest up
04:54 mauvebic Quebec canada
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04:54 jojoa1997 ah
04:54 jojoa1997 bye
04:55 jojoa1997 mauvebic USA Florida
04:55 jojoa1997 for me
04:55 mauvebic ahh, if we had that kind of weather here i wouldn't be modding lol
04:55 brandy ikr
04:56 brandy we live in the state of cant make up it's mind
04:56 NekoGloop is that michigan?
04:56 brandy went from 70 dg to 9 dg to 40 dg in 3 days
04:56 brandy Misery P
04:56 jojoa1997 ha that is nothing
04:56 brandy :P
04:57 jojoa1997 in florida went from 37 to 95
04:57 mauvebic whats funny is every year they act like its the worst snow season - like that somehow excuses sloppy snow removal or busses not running on time... im like, where the fuck have they been living their whole lives? lol
04:57 jojoa1997 once the sun rose
04:57 brandy wow, it gets that cold in Florida?
04:57 jojoa1997 only during the winter
04:57 jojoa1997 about 3-10 days a year
04:57 jojoa1997 and randomly spread
04:58 brandy hmmm
04:58 brandy we live in Missouri
04:58 mauvebic we had -45 (c) two weeks ago :p
04:58 brandy it's always different weather from day to day
04:58 jojoa1997 but it will be freezing in the morning but once the sun comes up i start sweating
04:58 brandy yeah
04:58 brandy you can never tell what season it is except for by the trees
04:58 jojoa1997 that is why  i always dress in shorts and  a light jacket no matter how cold
04:59 brandy lol
04:59 brandy that is our motto here, "If you dont like the weather, wait a day, and it will change:
04:59 brandy "
04:59 jojoa1997 true floridian = -3 degress and flip flops/shorts/no jacket
04:59 mauvebic lol people here get pretty crazy when its slightly above 9c, they start dressing for heatwaves lol
04:59 jojoa1997 execpt no -3
04:59 brandy wow lol
05:00 jojoa1997 it is weird
05:00 jojoa1997 people wear jeans and jackets on a summer day
05:00 jojoa1997 but do the same during a winter one also
05:00 mauvebic whereas id prolly find too hot lol
05:00 mauvebic went to orlando in 94, jesus the humidity lol
05:01 Exio here i have like 17 C currectly and it is cold
05:01 jojoa1997 bye gtg to sleep
05:01 brandy yeah, we have horrible humidity here during the summer, its like florida weather and i've been to florida
05:01 brandy tc
05:01 Exio some days ago we had over 36~37 C (nearly 40 sometimes)
05:01 brandy wow
05:02 jojoa1997 you aint seen humidity until you have seen key west
05:02 mauvebic eventually when my mother *moves on* im gonna move to the west coast, winter + SAD bad combo lol
05:02 jojoa1997 it might be 90 outside but the fell is above 100
05:02 brandy well, i've only been out of state when i would go over the road with my father as a child bc he was a truck driver, but that was a long time ago
05:03 jojoa1997 *feal
05:03 jojoa1997 bye
05:03 mauvebic my father worked for one of the big petroleum companies, weve been all over the atlantic provinces lol
05:03 Exio 100? 90?
05:03 Exio F?
05:03 mauvebic when he brought me on business trips
05:04 mauvebic though sometimes he fooled me and we really went across the border to get a trunk full of cheap booze lol
05:04 brandy yeah, i've never been out of state on vacation, i did get to see some amazing places but most of the time, i was in his rig
05:04 mauvebic "dad why we bringing blankets?"    "in case it gets real cold" lol
05:04 brandy wow
05:05 mauvebic back then alcohol was cheaper in ontario, now its the opposite but is still illegal lol
05:05 brandy i see
05:05 NekoGloop Everything is illegal
05:06 brandy I wouldnt know, I'm not an alcohol drinker, i only drink on mine and my husband's anniversary and i drink wine
05:06 Exio for what i can see 100 F is 37~38 C but 90 F is 32~ C
05:08 Exio what is the "normal temperature" of places where do you live in summer?
05:09 Exio (i think average is a better word for what i mean, but meh)
05:09 kizeren Hm....last summer was around 32C
05:10 kizeren Winters.....maybe around -10C
05:10 mauvebic in the summer it can reach 42c here
05:10 Exio where do  you live?
05:10 kizeren Midwest USA
05:11 Exio that temps look perfectly values, not too cold, not too warm ^^
05:12 kizeren Humidity is what kills most people around here.
05:12 brandy yeah, thats what i was saying earlier
05:13 mauvebic swampass at the dollar store - ugh lol
05:13 mauvebic especially when all you went for is coffee filters lol
05:14 kizeren Yep.
05:14 Exio 16.4 C  Humidity: 64% (here)
05:14 Exio very cold for a summer, but well, it is night, :P
05:14 kizeren Ours in the summer is normally above or around 90%
05:14 Exio oh
05:15 Exio i get what you meant
05:15 brandy yeah, its really bad
05:15 kizeren Walk outside and the sweat starts pouring off you.  Can't breath most of the time in the summer.
05:15 brandy yeah, its seriously mosquito haven in the summer here
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06:36 mauvebic hey Oldcoder :)
06:38 OldCoder Hi!
06:44 mauvebic hows it going?
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06:55 OldCoder mauvebic, PM
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13:36 Infinity_69 hi
13:36 Infinity_69 i need help with the footer :/
13:36 Infinity_69 can somebody help?
13:38 Infinity_69 hello?
13:42 Infinity_69 ugh, nvm -.-
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13:52 babe223 hello
13:53 babe223 ?
13:54 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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15:16 marktraceur babe223: Hi! What's up?
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15:45 john_minetest !up minetest.org 30015
15:45 Minetest-tan minetest.org:30015 seems to be down
15:45 john_minetest Why's zegaton down?
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16:00 LandMine Hi everybody :-( I'm sorry for my recent behavior
16:02 celeron55 fuck you and your mom - oh i'm sorry about that beginning of the line
16:02 celeron55 8D
16:02 landmineOGR Ohh hai celeron55 lol
16:03 landmineOGR Haven't seen u in. While
16:03 landmineOGR Since that nice pm we had
16:03 celeron55 i think i have talked to you on this channel once after that one
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16:04 landmineOGR I don't think so I would remember
16:04 landmineOGR Hey c55 make me OP :-)
16:07 celeron55 ops are $1000 each today
16:08 * shirish wondering if anybody saw kaeza today or in last couple of days on the channel ?
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16:09 landmineOGR Do u accept moneybookers? Celeron55......nad shirish check out the logs u should be able to see there
16:09 shirish landmineOGR: there are logs of this channel kept ? or do you mean in my IRC client ?
16:10 celeron55 see the topic
16:10 shirish landmineOGR: forget that last query.
16:10 shirish celeron55: just saw it.
16:11 landmineOGR Your welcome shirish :-)
16:11 celeron55 apparently kaeza was last here on 2013-02-01
16:11 shirish celeron55: thanx.
16:11 john_minetest celeron55: Can these $1000 be payed with MasterCard, Visa or AmericanExpress? ;)
16:12 celeron55 john_minetest: i only accept postal letters full of cash
16:12 celeron55 delivered today
16:13 landmineOGR Do u accept monopoly currency?
16:13 celeron55 for monopoly ops, yeah
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16:19 landmineOGR Well celeron55 we will take later...calinou just showed up
16:23 celeron55 landmineOGR: what are you going to do today?
16:24 landmineOGR Well...gonna go to pay mi trucks licence plates
16:25 landmineOGR Then go get a medical certificate
16:25 landmineOGR So I can go apply for a job
16:25 landmineOGR Cause my semester is over
16:25 landmineOGR And I enter school in a month and a half
16:26 landmineOGR that will take most of my day
16:26 landmineOGR How about urself celeron55
16:27 * VanessaE wanders in.
16:29 landmineOGR Hi vanessae ......why were u banning me yesterday??
16:30 VanessaE Ohh gee I wonder why.
16:31 VanessaE [02-03 18:31] <LandMine> This fuckin channel is so full of niggers jews and failures it could be used as a stunt double for vanessae vagina
16:31 VanessaE [02-03 21:36] <IisNotLandMine> Vanessae I hope ur husband dies of his kidney problems
16:31 VanessaE THAT is why.
16:31 landmineOGR Same....u know hmmmm was right...I was here all the time
16:31 landmineOGR And I know that's why....forgive me
16:31 VanessaE no.
16:31 landmineOGR I don't know what happened
16:32 VanessaE how many times are you gonna do that kind of shit and then turn around and ask for forgiveness?
16:33 landmineOGR Its been once with u
16:33 landmineOGR Marktraceur knows why
16:33 landmineOGR Ask him in pm
16:33 VanessaE once hell.  try three times just yesterday.
16:33 VanessaE four rather, counting both incidents in this channel (the other two in two other channels)
16:34 marktraceur landmineOGR: What's up man?
16:34 landmineOGR Still I asked for forgiveness...its ur choice if u accept it or not
16:35 landmineOGR Nothin much mark
16:35 VanessaE it's also YOUR choice whether or not to make such disgusting, hateful statements.
16:36 marktraceur VanessaE: Nobody would blame you for continuing to kickban on sight, but I think it's worth a shot to let him stick around a bit.
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16:36 VanessaE marktraceur:  unless he has Turrette's or something, I don't see why I should tolerate that kind of shit every time he shows up.
16:37 VanessaE hey Calinou.
16:37 * Calinou disabled hyperthreading to test something
16:37 Calinou hi
16:37 VanessaE Calinou: your test failed ;)
16:37 Calinou why :P
16:37 VanessaE jk
16:37 marktraceur VanessaE: I agree; it makes sense to let him stick around *until* he starts being an ass.
16:38 VanessaE mmmh
16:38 VanessaE if you say so.
16:38 landmineOGR :-)
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16:46 khonkhortisan What is this called? I'm sure it's common enough to already have a name http://postimage.org/image/s9ejow0jv/
16:46 VanessaE looks like a latch
16:46 Calinou heh, I have better FPS in minetest
16:46 Calinou when I run unlimited, X eats 93% of one CPU, lol
16:46 VanessaE or a one-shot multivibrator maybe?
16:47 PilzAdam grrrr... /me doesnt like the US simbols
16:47 khonkhortisan For the output to be on, the side must turn on, the input must turn off, and the input must turn on again.
16:47 VanessaE PilzAdam: from left to right are a NOT, 5-in OR, and two ANDs.
16:47 VanessaE khonkhortisan: a D-type latch
16:48 khonkhortisan 5-in is just because of the program I'm using
16:48 PilzAdam VanessaE, I know them, but I simply dont like them
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16:48 VanessaE oh ok
16:49 landmineOG STPUID WIFI
16:55 landmineOG Oldcoder u there?
16:55 khonkhortisan It's nearly a D-latch except the clock turning off turns off Q
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16:56 rubenwardy hi all
16:56 landmineOG Hi :-)
16:57 khonkhortisan hello
16:58 rubenwardy wuu2?
16:58 rubenwardy what are you up to?
16:58 rubenwardy (what are you doing?)
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16:59 khonkhortisan hi markv
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17:00 markveidemanis Hia
17:00 landmineOG Hey
17:00 landmineOG !up
17:00 Minetest-tan landmineOG: Give me a Server Address
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17:07 markveidemanis VanessaE
17:07 markveidemanis where are the start menu files in linux
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17:08 khonkhortisan misc/minetest.desktop
17:09 markveidemanis nothing to do with minetest
17:09 khonkhortisan Comment=Multiplayer infinite-world block sandbox
17:10 khonkhortisan I don't know where it goes when it's installed
17:10 markveidemanis on the bottom left, the stary menu
17:10 markveidemanis start
17:10 markveidemanis wheres that
17:10 rubenwardy It is called "Dash Board" in Ubuntu
17:11 markveidemanis k
17:11 rubenwardy http://complete-concrete-concise.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/ubuntu-experience-dash-icon.png
17:11 markveidemanis no...
17:12 markveidemanis Lubuntu
17:12 markveidemanis and i need the root files
17:12 rubenwardy open home
17:12 markveidemanis /home
17:12 rubenwardy and go to .minetest  (there is a drop down item called "goto" somewhere)
17:12 mauvebic these 'automatic reports' are little annoying, at least if they were accurate
17:13 markveidemanis Right...
17:13 markveidemanis i installed a program...
17:13 markveidemanis that added a folder to the start menu...i need to delete that
17:13 khonkhortisan menu editor is good enough
17:14 PilzAdam mauvebic, games should go into the Minetest Game section in the forum
17:14 PilzAdam not in Mod Releases
17:15 PilzAdam and the correct prefix is [Game]
17:15 markveidemanis where do screenshots go
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17:16 markveidemanis nvm, i found
17:17 mauvebic pretty retarded but wtv changing it back
17:18 markveidemanis menu://applications/
17:18 markveidemanis but cant delete
17:18 PilzAdam mauvebic, what?
17:18 PilzAdam its not a modpack, its a game
17:18 PilzAdam why do you call it modpack?
17:19 * markveidemanis just remembered sudo rm
17:19 mauvebic A) ill call it what i like :-)
17:19 mauvebic b) this constant dicking around with perfectly good threads when there's so much real crap to trim, but wtv lol
17:19 mauvebic i need coffee
17:20 PilzAdam mauvebic, just ask a moderator to move it to Minetest Games and everything will be fine
17:21 mauvebic besides do you seriously think i have nothing better to do than move my thread back and forth depending on what type of downloadsi happen to offer that week?
17:21 rubenwardy Top 20 of Mods/User:
17:21 rubenwardy 1. PilzAdam  18 Mods
17:21 mauvebic naw im keeping it as 'modpack', you can run the mods indiv, or as a pack, or as a game
17:22 PilzAdam ín this case dont add a game.conf
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17:22 mauvebic there ain't a game or modpack.txt
17:22 markveidemanis HELP!!!
17:22 markveidemanis Where does lubuntu read for the start menu (the root files)
17:22 PilzAdam there is a game.conf in the latest download wich means that its a game
17:23 PilzAdam if it isnt, remove game.conf
17:23 PilzAdam if it is, move the thread to Minetest Games
17:23 PilzAdam markveidemanis, where not #ubuntu here
17:23 PilzAdam *were
17:23 mauvebic keeping it as is
17:23 markveidemanis i *May* be banned from ubuntu
17:24 mauvebic i dont recommend fucking around with my threads over technicalities
17:24 markveidemanis But not lubuntu...
17:24 markveidemanis Yet
17:24 PilzAdam mauvebic, dont get me wrong, I dont really care about your threads
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17:24 PilzAdam but I just want to explain how to do it 100% correctly
17:25 mauvebic i know, there's the minetest way, and there's my way lol
17:25 mauvebic ask rba :p
17:25 mauvebic i dunno its not you, its just those reports that irk me lol
17:26 * PilzAdam wonders if we should adverties the translation page in the forum (http://translate.minetest.ru/projects/minetest/core/)
17:26 mauvebic i meant if a bot is gonna do the moderating, why do we need the moderators? llol
17:27 marktraceur markveidemanis: #lxde or something
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17:37 Jordach LOLOLOLOLOLOL http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=68261#p68261
17:38 OldCoder Hi
17:38 mauvebic lol
17:39 mauvebic hi
17:39 marktraceur Jordach: Be nice! :)
17:39 Jordach marktraceur, ...and?
17:40 mauvebic oldocoder check this out: http://www.zimg.eu/i/909339371 simcity style spawning lol
17:40 marktraceur Jordach: e.g. don't laugh at the noobs just because they're noobs
17:40 celeron55 marktraceur: see how IRC is mentioned in the main post on the thread :P
17:40 mauvebic likwid sounds more like one of the trolls we all know so i doubt he's/she's/it's a noob
17:46 mauvebic does this even work? https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQrLzYE82x1C9JTb08tKeNpEt33vkYSGezlt9FkRk5sij2gchbh
17:47 NakedFury mauvebic the game image you posted, what are the blue blocks for?
17:47 NakedFury spawning effects?
17:47 mauvebic dont call it a game image ill have to waste all day arguing its not lol
17:47 mauvebic the blue blocks are like simcity tiles
17:48 mauvebic they spawn random buildings
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17:48 mauvebic you define a lot by dimensions
17:48 mauvebic /lot 20 50 20
17:48 marktraceur mauvebic: Whoa, that's a cool site.
17:48 mauvebic and ittl find something that fits
17:48 NakedFury when you define lots, are the full of the blue blocks or do they only appear to spawn a building?
17:49 mauvebic the blue blocks spawn to prevent people from building/digging there
17:49 marktraceur Unless it's not what I think, which is possible.
17:49 mauvebic right now i have the abm set real low though buildings shouldn't all spawn at the same time lol
17:49 mauvebic well mark either you wanna have a serious discussion or you just wanna wordplay, im willing to be serious
17:50 mauvebic oh and nakedfury, did you see the new paysage? (terrain guns)
17:50 marktraceur mauvebic: It looks like it's a new data-URI scheme, but it might just be a different way to index a database.
17:50 NakedFury not yet, been trying to not play games at all to focus on classes and fix my sleeping hours
17:50 marktraceur I can't find any documentation on it, though
17:51 mauvebic marktraceur, what are you talking about?
17:51 mauvebic Nakedfury i understand that, i sleep on average 3-4 hours a night lol
17:51 mauvebic though check this out (for fun) : http://www.zimg.eu/i/3761206682
17:51 marktraceur mauvebic: The link you just posted to a tbn:* URI.
17:51 mauvebic i implemented most of the changes you suggested
17:52 marktraceur mauvebic: I'm not sure whether it's an actual data URI or just some kind of index.
17:52 mauvebic i still dont get what you are talking about marktraceur
17:52 NakedFury trying to go to sleep  at 12 am to get up early. not easy end up staying on the bed for hours
17:53 mauvebic lol nakedfury even when i do sleep i have these weird ass dreams all night, i wake up more tired than when i started lol
17:53 mauvebic marktraceur, what uri, what are you talking about??
17:53 marktraceur mauvebic: https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQrLzYE82x1C9JTb08tKeNpEt33vkYSGezlt9FkRk5sij2gchbh
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17:53 mauvebic oh that, its just an image..?
17:54 mauvebic i was curious if it still worked (the mod behind it) because its always one of the first results in google search lol
17:54 marktraceur mauvebic: Possibly. The image data *could* be encrypted in the tbn: URI in the q query parameter
17:54 mauvebic most of the google results seems to be very old mapgen lol
17:54 marktraceur Which would be cool.
17:54 marktraceur But I can't find any information about the URI scheme
17:55 mauvebic i dunno i havent done webdev in a few years i cant imagine how much more uselessly complex its become lol
17:55 mauvebic by now i expected they would have invented object-oriented html or something equally daft lol
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17:57 marktraceur mauvebic: HTML *is* object-oriented
17:57 marktraceur In fact, it's just objects
17:58 mauvebic i doubt tim berners lee had OO in mind when he designed it tho
17:58 marktraceur Well, no.
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17:58 marktraceur But when you're coming up with a markup language, you bloody well think of objects
17:58 marktraceur Hence, Document Object Model
17:58 mauvebic i remember PHP's first implementation of OO , lol, that was 'fun' lol
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17:59 mauvebic had OO even caught on as much when HTML1 came around?
18:00 mauvebic of course back then they told us the web would run on java (the false saviour) lol
18:00 marktraceur https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-oriented#History
18:00 marktraceur Seems so
18:00 mauvebic early 90's there wasn't much talk of it though
18:01 mauvebic if anything people wanted higher level languages
18:01 marktraceur Only because everyone was still stuck on C, I suspect...
18:01 mauvebic still are last i checked :p
18:02 mauvebic people always seem to go back to C/Cpp
18:02 marktraceur mauvebic: Well, and C++ is object-oriented
18:02 marktraceur And came out in 1983
18:02 mauvebic like distributions you try a new for awhile and you're excited, then you realize you were better off and go back lol
18:02 marktraceur So by 1990 I'd imagine it had some following
18:02 mauvebic by stroupsoup or something like that?
18:03 marktraceur Stroustrup, yeah
18:03 mauvebic yeah, i read one of his/her books, ghastly
18:03 mauvebic publishing companies should proofread teaching books to make sure they're not incredibly long CV's with lots of code examples and no explanations lol
18:03 marktraceur His :)
18:04 marktraceur mauvebic: Well, he was probably trying to document the language more than anything
18:04 mauvebic his whole book is basically "look what i can do" and doesn't explain how lol
18:04 mauvebic naw it was called "learning C++"
18:04 mauvebic misnomer
18:05 mauvebic screw expensive books though, there are more capable teachers willing to write free tutorials or answer questions on stackexchange
18:06 marktraceur Yeah
18:06 marktraceur Clearly higher education exists because of a fluke
18:06 marktraceur :)
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18:06 mauvebic especially stackexchange, whoever set that up had a stroke of genius
18:06 mauvebic higher education is a mill, and no garantee of a good job
18:06 Calinou <askubuntu.com seal of approval>
18:06 mauvebic *guarantee
18:07 mauvebic heck, higher education is no guarantee of competence either lol
18:08 marktraceur I can vouch for that.
18:08 marktraceur Having gone to a school that specialized in questionable competence.
18:08 mauvebic what sucks is if you wanna study programming you prety much have to leave quebec since the schools are five years behind in what they teach you, and in french lol
18:09 Calinou if only it was
18:09 mauvebic ive been to some schools... they dont even care if youre interested they just wanna sign you up for a student loan
18:09 Calinou it's a funny paradox: low education == no job, no education == no job, high education == no job
18:09 mauvebic kinda reminds me of that period during the mid 2000's where i got a new credit card in the post every month (before the big crash lol)
18:10 Calinou lol
18:10 * Calinou makes a credit card cluster, puts 10000 of them
18:10 Calinou still worse than an atom D:
18:11 mauvebic schools in N.A. are hopeless antiquated in their approach to teaching
18:11 mauvebic worse still, some school boards think by buying every student an ipad, the technology by itself will somehow improve grades
18:11 mauvebic and they use my fucking taxes for that when i dont have kids and cant afford an ipad at full price lol
18:12 mauvebic and they still cant do math or write for shit lol
18:12 marktraceur Wow.
18:12 mauvebic when i went to school our computerlab was hopelessly out of date lol
18:13 mauvebic i still learned to program
18:13 marktraceur mauvebic: Maybe there's an anti-trust suit in there somewhere....government favouring one company over others or something
18:13 mauvebic yeah but who wants to take on apple, the schoolboards and the gov't? lol
18:13 mauvebic ive had enough court for the past year
18:13 marktraceur Sounds like fun to me
18:13 Traxie21 Samsung wants to take on apple
18:13 marktraceur That combined with a suit against Adobe would be one hell of a lot of fun
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18:14 markveidemanis Hi
18:14 mauvebic apple is an american industry
18:14 mauvebic the only reason samsung lost
18:14 markveidemanis Really?
18:14 mauvebic they held the trial in the same city where apple is HQ'ed right?
18:14 markveidemanis **sherlock
18:14 mauvebic how many jury members would vote to do damage to the local economy? lol
18:14 Calinou marktraceur: come to france! some schools are currently deploying "Bic" tablets
18:14 Calinou :>
18:15 Traxie21 Samsung didnt lose
18:15 Sh1fty yeah, because what will help education is technology :D
18:15 mauvebic what would help education is sacking bad teachers who are only countings the few years to retirement
18:15 Sh1fty and apple kinda got screwed with that verdict
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18:15 Sh1fty mauvebic, yup
18:16 Sh1fty and reducing the amount of testing
18:16 mauvebic also seperating the no futures (music, sports, art) from the hard sciences (math, chem, phys)
18:16 Sh1fty that's a bad idea
18:16 Sh1fty it's called tracking and it doesn't really work
18:17 Jordach mauvebic, i have a better idea
18:17 sokomine it's not so that the older teachers are bad. they can be very good teachers as well
18:17 mauvebic i would have rather gone to a school that specialised in hard sciences instead of football
18:17 Sh1fty sokomine, not older teachers, bad teachers
18:17 sokomine ok, that's diffrent then
18:17 Sh1fty mauvebic, that's not the same
18:17 Jordach i could wire my neurons into my pc and live as an ai
18:17 Sh1fty i went to a great trade school
18:18 Sh1fty but that was choice, not tracking
18:18 mauvebic whats worse is they put all the kids the same age in the same grades, regardless of how slow or fast each learn
18:18 sokomine one teacher's approach might work best for some pupils while another teacher works better for other ones. it may be hard to tell who's good :-(
18:18 mauvebic in HS i *never* attended class except to write and ace exams (99~100%)
18:19 Sh1fty i liked classes in HS
18:19 Sh1fty and i never had to study at home
18:19 Traxie21 I'm glad I was homeschooled :3
18:19 * Calinou highfives Traxie21
18:20 * Jordach bitch slaps Calinou
18:20 Jordach NO!
18:20 mauvebic my school was in an area where all anglos thought they were artists lol so i had incentive to skip
18:20 * Jordach is heading to university soon
18:21 Sh1fty Jordach, prepare to be disappointed :D
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18:21 marktraceur Jordach: FWIW college is great.
18:22 Calinou prepare not to be appointed :D
18:22 * Calinou looks at Sh1fty
18:23 mauvebic i must be slightly dyslexic since i keep reading that name as 'shitfly'
18:23 mauvebic :/
18:23 Sh1fty :D
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18:35 marktraceur markveidemanis: Yes?
18:35 markveidemanis ^
18:35 markveidemanis LandMine
18:35 markveidemanis i thought...[...]
18:35 marktraceur markveidemanis: He's been behaving. I'll deal with him if he acts out.
18:35 markveidemanis ok
18:35 marktraceur LandMine: Welcome, how are you? :)
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18:36 LandMine was kicked by thexyz: LandMine
18:36 markveidemanis So, how are you, LandMine?
18:36 ruskie heh
18:37 markveidemanis LOL...
18:38 markveidemanis /mode #minetest +b
18:38 marktraceur TheLastProject: Why'd you do that?
18:38 markveidemanis all by marktraceur...
18:38 marktraceur Oops, sorry
18:38 marktraceur thexyz: Why'd you do that?
18:38 marktraceur TheLastProject: Misping, sorry
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18:38 markveidemanis !up minetest.org
18:38 Minetest-tan minetest.org:30000 seems to be down
18:39 markveidemanis I know, Right?
18:40 markveidemanis thexyz
18:41 markveidemanis next time use chanserv so you are undetected
18:41 * marktraceur sighs
18:41 marktraceur That wasn't my point
18:41 thexyz marktraceur: because.
18:41 markveidemanis He is evil
18:41 markveidemanis ^
18:41 marktraceur thexyz: Not a great reason....he appears to be softening a bit
18:41 thexyz I won't believe him
18:42 thexyz marktraceur: same thing happened a while ago
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18:42 marktraceur thexyz: Well, it doesn't make sense to ban someone because of things they've done before.
18:42 marktraceur I mean, existing bans should stand. But no reason to continue to kickban.
18:42 mauvebic LM?
18:42 marktraceur Yeah.
18:42 markveidemanis And dont you forget it...
18:42 markveidemanis Once...
18:42 mauvebic meh,if he hasnt learned by now
18:43 thexyz marktraceur: fine, unban him if you wish to
18:43 markveidemanis He kept kicking me
18:43 marktraceur thexyz: I won't mess with your decisions either. I just thought I'd ask why.
18:43 markveidemanis http://servers.minetest.ru/
18:44 marktraceur Though "because" isn't very convincing.
18:44 markveidemanis Congratulations to Ttyh Minetest Server for achieving 100% uptime
18:44 markveidemanis *Heh*
18:44 markveidemanis WTF its a minecraft server lol
18:46 markveidemanis go to #op
18:46 Jordach op, idiot#
18:46 op chanserv op #op op
18:46 op lol
18:46 * Calinou enabled HT again
18:46 Calinou no HT = sound lag
18:46 Jordach oh yes, hyperthreading
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18:46 Calinou I lose 200 FPS in minetest though :P
18:47 Calinou (840 vs 1050 when unfocused on MT window)
18:47 Traxie21 Guys, does anyone have any idea how to use the minetest.get_pointed_thing_position?
18:47 Calinou (see bug I reported about focusing on MT window)
18:47 markveidemanis whoops...
18:48 * Jordach considers doing science!
18:48 markveidemanis i need a creative server
18:49 markveidemanis oh god...
18:49 markveidemanis plz dont blow up the moon
18:49 marktraceur Jordach: Will you be alive?
18:49 Jordach somewhat
18:49 markveidemanis i know its pointless, but its pretty
18:49 markveidemanis and i want tides
18:50 Traxie21 Guys, does anyone have any idea how to use the minetest.get_pointed_thing_position?
18:50 Traxie21 </repetitive>
18:50 markveidemanis H²O²
18:50 mauvebic http://ows.edb.utexas.edu/sites/default/files/users/schen/IMG_2015.JPG
18:50 markveidemanis H²O, Too
18:50 marktraceur markveidemanis: Wrong
18:51 john_minetest H²O doesn't exist.
18:51 ruskie hehe
18:52 marktraceur markveidemanis: Hâ‚‚O
18:52 marktraceur Damn public school system.
18:52 markveidemanis lol you had to use character map
18:52 markveidemanis ¹²³
18:52 markveidemanis all i got
18:52 * marktraceur is perfectly happy with character map
18:52 thexyz marktraceur: I'm not going to waste my time by explaining. Too bad you cannot figure it yourself. He's not going to change
18:52 marktraceur thexyz: Thanks
18:53 john_minetest H H
18:53 john_minetest |  |
18:53 john_minetest C-C-O-H
18:53 john_minetest |  |
18:53 john_minetest H H
18:53 john_minetest Didn't really fit.
18:53 Calinou COH COH COH COH!
18:53 * Calinou dies from suffocation
18:53 marktraceur Organic IRC.
18:53 john_minetest H H
18:53 marktraceur (Farm fresh!)
18:53 john_minetest | |
18:53 Traxie21 So no one knows how to use minetest.get_pointed_thing_position()?
18:53 marktraceur cccccombo breaker?
18:54 marktraceur Traxie21: Look at the docs
18:54 Traxie21 Uhh yea...
18:54 Traxie21 They arent very helpful in any way
18:54 john_minetest H H
18:54 john_minetest | |
18:54 john_minetest C-C-OH
18:54 john_minetest | |
18:54 john_minetest H H
18:54 mauvebic traxie look at the rotate screwdriver in technic
18:54 khonkhortisan I can type this straight from my keyboard Hâ‚‚O
18:54 marktraceur Traxie21: Really? So if I grep for get_pointed_thing I won't find anything?
18:54 john_minetest Wow, My Ethanol looks great!
18:54 markveidemanis łøł
18:54 markveidemanis UH OH!!!
18:54 Traxie21 You will find one thing
18:55 khonkhortisan H compose _ 2 O
18:55 markveidemanis this is minetest channel...
18:55 khonkhortisan łoł
18:55 john_minetest We have got water in minetest
18:55 markveidemanis dont be physics nerds
18:55 Traxie21 minetest.get_pointed_thing_position(pointed_thing, above) ^ Get position of a pointed_thing (that you can get from somewhere)
18:55 khonkhortisan Græy
18:55 Calinou khonkhortisan: what layout do you use?
18:55 * Calinou uses alternative french
18:55 markveidemanis Græy
18:55 Calinou here is your copyright sign: ©
18:55 Calinou altgr+C
18:55 mauvebic traxie, look at rotate screwdriver in technic, it uses pointed_thing
18:55 Calinou windows can't do that :D
18:55 khonkhortisan programmer dvorak. I also have a compose button.
18:56 Jordach Calinou, screw you
18:56 Jordach altgr + c pauses my media player
18:56 john_minetest Lol, I should try NEO layout. That's epic.
18:56 Calinou azerty breaks a lot of games on linux though
18:56 Calinou Jordach: clementine ftw
18:56 Jordach Calinou, .ogg ftl
18:56 marktraceur Traxie21: What don't you understand about that?
18:56 khonkhortisan ®, ©, & ™
18:56 Traxie21 I tried it, and it always returns nil or crashes the game
18:57 Traxie21 local pos = minetest.get_pointed_thing_position(pointed, true) minetest.env:remove_node(pos)
18:57 Calinou clementine reads MP3s too
18:57 khonkhortisan Please don't use a qwerty-derived layout on a keyboard that can't jam.
18:57 mauvebic how is that different from any other tool that digs?
18:57 Traxie21 Its called on command
18:57 marktraceur Traxie21: If you do get_pointed_thing() and then get that thing's position, does that change the behaviour?
18:57 Traxie21 let me check
18:58 markveidemanis ¢
18:58 khonkhortisan I made right alt my altgr and shift right alt my compose button
18:58 khonkhortisan ß
18:58 khonkhortisan ¿qué?
18:58 Traxie21 marktraceur: attempt to call field minetest.get_pointed_thing , a null value.
18:58 Calinou Trax¡e21 :>
18:58 Calinou anti-highlight
18:59 Traxie21 :L
18:59 markveidemanis clear
18:59 markveidemanis damn
18:59 markveidemanis who wants to talk about science and keyboard layouts?
18:59 * Calinou just did 8 frags in a row on AC
18:59 markveidemanis Go to #mtmt
18:59 Calinou team survivor on ac_desert, 1vs8, I win
18:59 * Calinou did an headshot-noscope
18:59 markveidemanis Calinou
18:59 khonkhortisan minetest.(insert "env:" here)get_pointed_thing
18:59 markveidemanis what server
19:00 Calinou search "Calinou"
19:00 marktraceur Hm, what was the name of it.
19:00 Calinou F3 to search, while in server list
19:00 marktraceur Oh right
19:00 marktraceur Traxie21: Isn't get_pointed_thing going to be a method on an entity object? More specifically, a player?
19:00 Traxie21 No, on a block
19:01 Calinou while we're talking about pointed things
19:01 * Calinou pokes a random C++ programmer to add more accurate "pointed thing"
19:01 khonkhortisan worldedit can't //stack 2x2 microcontrollers. Which mod do I complain to?
19:01 Calinou so that I can develop my secret stairs+ feature
19:04 mauvebic i wish lua tables worked like php tables: string and number keys lol
19:04 mauvebic instead i have to double down :( lol
19:04 Calinou lol markveidemanis got banned
19:04 Calinou poor markveidemanis :(
19:04 mauvebic good lol
19:05 Calinou 20 minute ban (vote banned)
19:05 mauvebic http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/34293810.jpg
19:05 Calinou lol
19:05 Calinou ^ AMD GPU owners' face when new driver is released
19:05 markveidemanis i thought F1 voted no!!
19:05 markveidemanis i voted for myself to be banned
19:06 mauvebic naw i found nvidia and ati drivers that work as expected, you can update them when im dead lol
19:06 mauvebic only the netbook now has shitty artifacts when playing mt
19:07 markveidemanis Cmon, join #mtmt
19:07 markveidemanis to be nerdy
19:07 thexyz +q
19:08 markveidemanis -Q
19:08 marktraceur Traxie21: Not what it returns, what you call it from
19:08 marktraceur Shouldn't it be Player:get_pointed_thing and not minetest.get_pointed_thing?
19:08 Calinou mauvebic: 313.18 has noticeable performance improvements over 304.51 and opengl4.3 support :P
19:08 markveidemanis TEST
19:09 mauvebic nvidia?
19:09 marktraceur markveidemanis: What the hell?
19:09 markveidemanis TEST for +q
19:09 markveidemanis dont help
19:09 marktraceur Allow me
19:09 mauvebic i have 304.64
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19:10 mauvebic if only i could test drivers without permanently fucking my install
19:10 mauvebic but its either you install and x breaks, or it works lol
19:10 Traxie21 Oh, yea
19:10 khonkhortisan backup?
19:10 Calinou mauvebic: yes
19:10 khonkhortisan it is like that, you either lose display and are stuck with text mode, or you're not
19:10 thexyz Traxie21: http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.get_pointed_thing_position
19:10 Calinou they work for me :P
19:11 Calinou zero bugs
19:11 mauvebic you could backup, but i'd rather request sane testing and update practices lol
19:11 Calinou did not backup anything before doing it
19:11 markveidemanis I'm BORED
19:11 Traxie21 I know xyz
19:11 marktraceur Chew on that for a while
19:11 khonkhortisan I think I had a double kernel install and the nvidia installer got confused
19:11 Calinou I backup my /home bi-weekly or so just for the lulz, other than that
19:11 thexyz Traxie21: what's the problem then?
19:11 Traxie21 Nil value
19:11 Traxie21 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=68282#p68282
19:11 marktraceur markveidemanis: It's super great that you've chosen us to help eliminate your boredom
19:11 mauvebic i dont see a point in backing up anymore lol the drive i backed up most of my shit to died
19:11 Calinou only javascript developers point to nil.
19:12 PilzAdam Traxie21, answered
19:12 marktraceur markveidemanis: Just don't do it in such an annoying, off-topic, 12-year-old way.
19:12 Calinou mauvebic: my external HDD is 7 years old and is 200GB only :P
19:12 Calinou it still works!
19:12 thexyz PilzAdam: I think that answer should be added to wiki
19:12 mauvebic at least it was easy to unplug, its the drive with the wide, flat connector lol (pata?)
19:13 PilzAdam thexyz, rather add the code from builtin/item.lua to the wiki
19:13 mauvebic even with boot on sdb, the system kept trying to boot the older drive lol
19:13 Traxie21 Pilz, that makes sense, but I still have no idea how to get the position into a variable
19:13 mauvebic linux mint kept changing /sda and /sdb on every boot so i dumped it 2 yrs ago lol
19:14 mauvebic (they simply told me not to combine sata and pata drivers,,,, abit late lol)
19:14 mauvebic *drives
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19:14 mauvebic the oss solution to not spending money on software: spending more on hardware lol
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19:15 MarkVeidemanis Hi
19:15 MarkVeidemanis i care not for caps
19:15 Calinou lol mauvebic, except for graphics cards ;-)
19:16 mauvebic lol true but how many bug reports end with developers blaming hardware lol
19:16 MarkVeidemanis was kicked by marktraceur: MarkVeidemanis
19:17 mauvebic even with previously working features, 'buy linux compat hardware" lol
19:18 * Calinou buys a digitally-controlled PSU
19:18 Calinou must be fun under linux
19:18 Calinou *looks at corsair AX1200i*
19:18 * Calinou also buys software-controlled watercooling
19:18 Calinou overheat in 5 seconds :>
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19:19 markveidemanis was kicked by marktraceur: markveidemanis
19:19 marktraceur So much fun.
19:20 PilzAdam bye
19:20 mauvebic especially vlc lol 2.0 broke most of the features that made it better than the other free players, ubuntu should hire them lol
19:20 Calinou weird, markveidemanis and MarkVeidemanis both have been banned, and noone blamed POSIX standards
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19:20 * Calinou trolls about case-insensitive filesystems being da win
19:20 mark____1 Hello
19:20 marktraceur mark____1: Care to apologize?
19:21 OldCoder mark____1, go ahead
19:21 mark____1 Im sorry
19:21 Calinou I'm*
19:21 mauvebic should get a list of proxies and ban all the hosts
19:21 mark____1 "'" makes no difference
19:21 ruskie Calinou, irc is case insensitive
19:21 marktraceur mauvebic: Not necessary
19:21 mark____1 i can you next door
19:21 ruskie Calinou, the problem is the different ip/host/ident
19:22 marktraceur mark____1: What?
19:22 mauvebic i know the whole time i lived next to a cafe i kept spoofing my MAC and getting free wifi lol
19:22 VanessaE ruskie: which can be partially solved by banning entire network segments or entire domains if necessary
19:22 ruskie VanessaE, yup
19:23 mauvebic in most neighbourhoods there are some unsecured wifi too, but the chances a neighbour of a player plays mt is slim
19:23 mauvebic and you prolly dont want more of that type anyhow lol
19:23 khonkhortisan "Your wifi signal was trespassing on my property and interfering with my internet connection"
19:24 MarkVeidemanis irc IS case sensitive
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19:24 MarkVeidemanis window kill 2
19:24 MarkVeidemanis Whoops, irssi
19:24 Sh1fty :D
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19:24 mauvebic and then theres always the freenode web interface
19:25 ruskie but web interfaces are easy to ban
19:25 VanessaE I wonder how long it'll be before we start banning that, too
19:25 mauvebic so yeah, unless you rig a bot to recognize and kick him every time...
19:25 mauvebic which aint hard
19:25 marktraceur Yup. In fact, I banned two of his IPs that were accessing from the web interface.
19:25 marktraceur In any case, I take it nobody has had any issue with me cutting markveidemanis down a few notches?
19:26 VanessaE nope.
19:26 mauvebic if sfan5 can rig a bot to scan the forums then it can certainly pick up on certain other words in IRC
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19:26 MarkVeidemanis99 why cant i use qwebirc but can use irssi
19:26 ruskie because your normal host hasn't been banned yet
19:27 Calinou irssi with a graphical interface == pointless
19:27 marktraceur MarkVeidemanis99: Why do you think I've banned you?
19:27 marktraceur Just as an educational exercise.
19:27 MarkVeidemanis99 so i have to face the horrors of command line irc
19:28 marktraceur Not really, no
19:28 MarkVeidemanis99 but i still have to
19:28 mauvebic it makes him feel special : http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZTXYghCNzo8/UBoelLw3Q6I/AAAAAAAAANo/1_aQ6C2frcw/s1600/homer.jpg
19:28 marktraceur Hint: You did something, and then I banned you several times.
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19:28 marktraceur What do you figure you've done?
19:28 MarkVeidemanis99 "I'm BORED" ?
19:29 marktraceur MarkVeidemanis99: More generally?
19:29 markveidemanis9 spammed
19:29 marktraceur markveidemanis9: Exactly.
19:29 marktraceur markveidemanis9: Also, your hostnames are banned, not your username. You can be normal markveidemanis.
19:29 markveidemanis9 [19:29] == #minetest Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned
19:29 marktraceur Hm.
19:30 markveidemanis9 and im using the other account in a better client
19:30 markveidemanis9 i know the reason..
19:30 khonkhortisan You are banned twice
19:30 markveidemanis9 in irssi i am cloaked
19:30 markveidemanis9 in qwebirc there is no cloak
19:30 mauvebic then we'll ban the romulans and klingons too
19:31 ruskie hint: you're not cloaked
19:31 markveidemanis9 whois markveidemanis
19:31 khonkhortisan you
19:31 markveidemanis9 whois markveidemanis9
19:32 marktraceur markveidemanis9: You're cruising for another ban
19:32 khonkhortisan markveidemanis is
19:34 marktraceur Sigh.
19:35 thexyz oh, well
19:35 thexyz he came to #freenode
19:36 marktraceur Wow.
19:36 marktraceur Trying to appeal?
19:38 ruskie ops won't interfere with chanops/chanowners
19:38 marktraceur Probably not, unless there's some big problem
19:39 khonkhortisan If only there was a sideways microcontroller
19:40 VanessaE khonkhortisan: definitely would be useful, particularly with the presets
19:41 Sh1fty what do you mean by sideways?
19:41 VanessaE Sh1fty: rotated
19:42 khonkhortisan Instead of building a circuit on the horizontal plane, building it on a vertical one.
19:42 VanessaE if placed on the side of a block, it would require a whole new set of mesecons wires .... the sheer number of nodes...
19:42 VanessaE grvalt
19:42 VanessaE gevalt*
19:42 khonkhortisan If I have a pixel display, it's easier to do logic on a row than it is on a column
19:43 khonkhortisan Yeah, minetest doesn't support full rotations with a single node.
19:43 VanessaE khonkhortisan: of course, now that I think about it, it wouldn't be *that* hard to make it connect vertically...
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19:43 VanessaE since we already have vertical mesecons.
19:44 VanessaE it'd just have to have two of its ports near the bottom of the node (say A and C, and B pointing up and D down)
19:46 khonkhortisan I just updated and got vertical mesecons, insulated corners, and - command?
19:46 VanessaE command block
19:46 VanessaE executes a server command on receipt of a mesecon signal.
19:46 khonkhortisan ooh cool
19:47 VanessaE I think anyway
19:47 VanessaE I've never used it (in fact, it is disabled on my server)
19:47 khonkhortisan How do I connect the bottom of a vertical mesecon?
19:48 VanessaE which reminds me, new map just a couple days ago.  Want me to copy your frame animation minecarts thingy over to it?
19:48 VanessaE (about 2/3 of all other structures have been copied already)
19:49 VanessaE place the vertical wire, then place a regular horizontal wire next to it I think
19:49 VanessaE I don't use them much
19:50 khonkhortisan I've completely surrounded it in wire and it doesn't light up
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19:51 khonkhortisan I see the four-way was removed.
19:51 khonkhortisan It wasn't dependable
19:52 VanessaE hrm
19:53 VanessaE I'm sure it'll be brought back sooner or later though
19:53 VanessaE as for the vertical wires...
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19:54 khonkhortisan oh just stack them
19:55 VanessaE that's a bug then
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19:55 VanessaE you shouldn't need to stack them to get them to connect to the neighboring wire
19:55 VanessaE (I just tried it)
19:55 VanessaE (it acts the same for me as for you)
19:56 VanessaE of course, I'm not running the latest git of mesecons since that'll break a bunch of stuff that I'm not ready to mess with yet :-)
19:56 * Jordach installs assult cube and warzone 2100
19:56 khonkhortisan like bobblocks
19:56 VanessaE bobblocks has been fixed already
19:57 khonkhortisan and 2x2 microcontrollers
19:57 khonkhortisan oh
19:57 rubenwardy Slideshows via bbcode: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/viewmod.php?id=63
19:57 VanessaE technic too, but I don't know that it's stable yet
19:57 Jordach VanessaE, it is stable again
19:57 VanessaE 2x2 µC's?
19:57 khonkhortisan there's a download on the mesecons website
19:57 khonkhortisan but worldedit can't //stack them
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19:58 Jordach rubenwardy, nice cutoff point: http://i.imgur.com/SC6LSY6.png
19:58 VanessaE I wonder how useful it is.
19:59 VanessaE I really should upgrade some of this stuff huh
19:59 rubenwardy yeah
19:59 rubenwardy Jordach: it is a cover vs fit problem
20:00 VanessaE khonkhortisan: you never answered my question...
20:00 rubenwardy should it be fitted so that you can see all of the image, or should it cover all of the panel?
20:00 rubenwardy that is the question
20:00 rubenwardy latter looks better
20:03 rubenwardy what does everyone think of this mod icon: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=68283#p68283
20:04 Jordach how about no
20:04 rubenwardy yeah
20:04 Jordach horrible
20:05 rubenwardy my thought as well
20:05 Jordach shall i render a nice large 3d chest?
20:06 rubenwardy yeah
20:06 rubenwardy do you like my idea?
20:06 Jordach yup
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20:14 khonkhortisan VanessaE, I don't know of any frame animation minecarts thingy
20:15 rubenwardy gtg.
20:15 rubenwardy jordach: post the image on the forum page when u are done
20:15 VanessaE khonkhortisan: remember, you built a structure on my server where the player jumps into a cart and rides past several windows cut into dirt, with objects behind the windows that are arranged like an animation?
20:15 VanessaE and I showed you how to rig a one-way track
20:15 khonkhortisan now I remember
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20:16 khonkhortisan Your choice. I'm not particularly attached to it
20:16 VanessaE ok.
20:17 VanessaE i'll exclude it for now; you may want to rebuild it on my new map (I'll find a suitable spot) with better materials at some point
20:17 khonkhortisan I'd use the fastest rail I could find and a solid-color block for the space in between the slides
20:18 khonkhortisan and larger images
20:18 VanessaE *nod*
20:18 sapier1 anyone interested in trying to create medieval battles?
20:20 khonkhortisan vertical wires take two to connect because they are also the bases
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20:21 khonkhortisan I wouldn't change it
20:22 VanessaE yeah but if you remove the top one, the bottom part stays, and remains connected to the horizontal wire
20:22 khonkhortisan I don't see it doing that
20:23 khonkhortisan nor do I see the top one remaining connected when the bottom is removed
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20:25 VanessaE odd
20:25 VanessaE it did on mine
20:25 VanessaE but my copy is probably older than yours
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20:34 khonkhortisan If I have a signal going down and I want a side signal to interfere with it, I have to move the down wire somewhere else to continue it, then move it back
20:36 khonkhortisan and I can't have two ends right by each other, they connect
20:36 * khonkhortisan thinks of having an insulated vertical wire base that only connects to uninsulated vertical wire non-base
20:37 ruskie just have coloured wires
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20:41 khonkhortisan that's a different solution for a different problem. Touchscreens!
20:41 khonkhortisan but it would work too
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20:44 pandaro hi
20:45 khonkhortisan hello
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20:56 khonkhortisan When I place the insulated corner, one of the ends is pointed toward me. So if I'm working on a structure in the air, I'll be able to place it correctly half of the time.
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20:59 jojoa1997 Hello!
21:03 VanessaE hi
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21:04 sapier http://postimage.org/image/bvjo73gd7/ http://postimage.org/image/luna3waa7/ what do you think about those mobs?
21:05 khonkhortisan odd haircut
21:05 sapier which one?
21:05 khonkhortisan the first picture
21:05 khonkhortisan the gray on the head goes down around the eyes
21:05 khonkhortisan Is that a helmet?
21:05 sapier not the big one with black throusers
21:05 VanessaE protip:  turn on daytime before making a screenshot
21:05 sapier yes
21:06 jojoa1997 is that armor
21:06 sapier daytime wasn't quite usefull as the one being attacked by the guards is a vombie ;-)
21:06 khonkhortisan minetest.register_globalstep(function(dtime)minetest.env:set_timeofday(0.5)end)
21:06 sapier those helmet guys are hirelings that defend your house against e.g. vombies
21:07 sapier or other players ;)
21:07 khonkhortisan I couldn't tell it was a helmet because it is curved
21:07 sapier same do archers in second picture
21:07 jojoa1997 so sapier is this another mid
21:07 jojoa1997 mod
21:07 sapier no
21:07 sapier it's just graphics atm
21:08 jojoa1997 ok will it be apart of your mod
21:09 berome :-) and we should make a mod wich illuminate a fraction of seconds when we hit F12
21:10 berome :-) and we should make a mod wich illuminate everything for a fraction of second when we hit F12
21:11 berome oh sorry
21:11 berome x2
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21:11 sapier http://postimage.org/image/qyll5ifo7/734ce236/
21:11 berome because on servers we are not always allowed to "hack" day time
21:11 sapier this is the archer guy at daytime
21:12 khonkhortisan his arm is going through his head
21:12 sapier http://postimage.org/image/k5xzowacp/
21:12 sapier yes he just shot an arrow :-P
21:12 jojoa1997 cant wait for this
21:12 khonkhortisan The bow is a little pointy
21:13 khonkhortisan I like the swords
21:13 sapier you already can try it it's in mobf dev branch ... but dev branch isn't stable right now expect crashes if you try it
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21:17 jojoa1997 sapier link please i cant find it
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21:18 sapier https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack/tree/mobf_2_1_dev
21:18 jojoa1997 thanks
21:19 sapier its unstable but you're welcome to write bug reports but plz make sure it's clear you're using development version
21:19 jojoa1997 what is with the authored in # of minutes
21:19 jojoa1997 also any outside dependencies
21:20 sapier no
21:20 sapier I tried to use throwing but those arrows haven't been customizable enough
21:20 sapier at least not pilzadams version ... I remember last version was
21:22 jojoa1997 what is with the authored in # of minutes
21:23 sapier don't understand what you mean?
21:24 jin_xi github shows you both commit and push time
21:24 jojoa1997 animalmaterialsin a minuteadd contract in order to support hireing npc mobs [sapier]
21:24 jojoa1997 the "in a minute" why is it there.
21:25 sapier :-) because of different timezones I assume
21:25 jojoa1997 2%
21:26 sapier github version is quite big as it contains blender and texture raw data
21:26 jojoa1997 76%
21:27 * khonkhortisan filed a mesecons issue
21:30 jojoa1997 how do i use contract
21:30 sapier you can use it to reclaim a placed hireling
21:31 jojoa1997 gess he attacked me
21:31 sapier if you want to place one first time you need to hire it from trader or use "give singleplayer mob_archer:archer 1"
21:31 jojoa1997 or use creative
21:31 sapier ok this most likely will work too
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21:35 jojoa1997 why are vombies so fast
21:35 sapier they're intended to catch you ;-)
21:39 jojoa1997 well i found no errors
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21:39 sapier you will ... it's still crashing quite often
21:40 jojoa1997 what os do you use
21:40 sapier linux but that doesn't matter crashes are due to assertions I placed on purpose to find invalid mob states
21:41 marktraceur Huh, had him pegged as an NT user.
21:41 sapier long time ago :-) w2k
21:41 sapier was last winnt i used
21:41 jojoa1997 NT? and also what did you do to crash it
21:41 marktraceur jojoa1997: Linux is to NT as GNU/Linux is to Windows
21:42 sapier if you target at kernel/os difference I'm not quite sure if this is true
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21:43 jojoa1997 well gtg bye
21:45 khonkhortisan aw, I can't connect to a vertical wire in the middle
21:48 khonkhortisan woah, insulated wire that lights up! Cool!
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21:51 sapier is there any way to increase minetest texture cache?
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21:53 khonkhortisan Having smoothing on gives mesecons black edges
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22:45 bulletrulz Menche, it was lagging
22:47 bulletrulz Menche, this was the texure problem
22:47 bulletrulz http://tinypic.com/r/2vmj1hg/6
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22:56 Menche bulletrulz: sorry i was afk
22:57 Menche maybe your getting that glitch from too many textures; my netbook got that too
22:58 Menche if you're still reading this, try disabling "preload item visuals". i think that fixed it on my netbook. it also loads much faster.
23:00 * Menche wishes there was a way to make an afk person's computer emit a really loud beep
23:01 khonkhortisan typing ctrl-g while write-ing their terminal during an ssh
23:02 khonkhortisan You could make a mod that does that
23:02 Menche assuming i can gain ssh access
23:02 khonkhortisan steal some ambience code and add a /command for a sound near the user
23:02 Menche a mod that beeps someone when they're name is mentioned?
23:02 Menche s/they're/their
23:02 khonkhortisan or when you say /beep name
23:02 Menche good idea
23:03 Menche of course, that could be abused
23:03 marktraceur Menche: Make sure it's visible who has beeped whom
23:03 marktraceur Menche: Maybe rate-limit it
23:03 khonkhortisan I wouldn't have regular chat beep
23:05 Menche and have a way for alerts to be disabled per-user
23:05 Menche i usually have sound disabled though
23:05 khonkhortisan If I'm playing singleplayer, and my ports are open, can someone join my game?
23:05 marktraceur Menche: Why not just alert the window?
23:06 marktraceur Menche: It's totally possible to raise a window's attention
23:06 Menche khonkhortisan: no, the new singleplayer has a feature that blocks other connections
23:07 Menche if you're playing "singleplayer" from advanced, then yes
23:07 khonkhortisan than that's one feature minetest now has over xonotic/nexuiz.
23:08 Menche ?
23:09 khonkhortisan (first-person shooter) My brother was going through the tutorial and I joined and fought the bots and he couldn't go to the next level because I was winning
23:09 khonkhortisan It can really interfere with someone's game when there's no true singleplayer
23:10 Muadtralk anyone think the advanced tab should have the new server select list as well?
23:10 Menche the singleplayer is technically multiplayer with other connections blocked. you can try to connect, but get an error
23:10 Muadtralk after all it is advanced
23:10 khonkhortisan YES!
23:10 Muadtralk so you would think that would mean anything and everything on one cluttered tab :)\
23:10 khonkhortisan It shouldn't go without a server list.
23:11 Menche its advanced so clearly it should have 143 options on it
23:11 khonkhortisan Maybe with an option for servers to appear or not appear (to keep most people out) but you shouldn't have to go searching to find a server
23:11 khonkhortisan Maybe a List tab
23:12 khonkhortisan but it needs a server list and the Change Keys button accessible from in-game.
23:12 Menche am i the only one who noticed the placeholder text on the singleplayer tab?
23:13 Menche "tape and glue"
23:13 Muadtralk no I noticed it
23:13 Muadtralk but i dismissed it as a feature
23:13 khonkhortisan it's really not that noticable, other than the first time you see it
23:14 khonkhortisan Advanced = Multiplayer (Client) + Server
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23:14 Menche also, i think the menubg should be a texture from the new pack
23:14 khonkhortisan Singleplayer = Client + (Server - Multiplayer)
23:14 Menche the dirt from the old 0.3 pack is ugly
23:15 khonkhortisan yes the dirt should match
23:15 Menche actually the old pack is still used in minimal
23:16 khonkhortisan texture smoothing needs some help. I'm getting a green edge on the bottom of dirt_with_grass
23:16 khonkhortisan Instead of blending with the bottom face
23:17 Menche bi/trilinear filtering?
23:17 khonkhortisan I died and lost my mesecon machine in the sky
23:17 khonkhortisan nevermind it was at 0 1000 0
23:18 khonkhortisan yes, I have all the options on except for opaque water
23:18 Menche i personally only use anisotropic and mipmaps. i think bi/trilinear looks blurry with 16x textures.
23:18 khonkhortisan it does
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23:34 khonkhortisan VanessaE, Yes, I can tell you don't use vertical wires much. You would've caught what I just fixed.
23:35 bulletrulz Menche, try restarting the server
23:36 Menche bulletrulz: i'm building the stable version, i'll restart when its donw
23:36 Menche *done
23:36 bulletrulz Menche, k
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23:36 Menche hopefully locked chests will work for everyone then
23:36 bulletrulz Menche, tell me when ur dont
23:37 Menche curious, what does enable_curl do?
23:37 khonkhortisan curl as in downloading?
23:37 Menche i know curl is for downloading
23:38 bulletrulz brb
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23:43 Menche bulletrulz told me to tell him when it was done, then he left...
23:43 Menche lol
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