| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
Kacey |
weed is legal where i live ^_^ |
| 00:01 |
blah_craft_ |
lucky |
| 00:01 |
Kacey |
haha |
| 00:01 |
Kacey |
not really |
| 00:02 |
blah_craft_ |
honestly i think if weed were 100% legal here, i wouldn't smoke any more than I already do, which is very rarely |
| 00:02 |
Kacey |
i almost get ran over by druggiees |
| 00:05 |
blah_craft_ |
quick question about the minetest wiki - there's a little section under ""gameplay" that gives some basic recipes... are there more recipes than that? |
| 00:06 |
blah_craft_ |
forgive me for asking common knowledge... i just came across minetest this morning |
| 00:07 |
mauvebic |
eventually theyre gonna legalize drugs if only to balance the budget through tax revenues |
| 00:07 |
mauvebic |
you end up having to treat addicts weather its legal or not anyhow |
| 00:08 |
blah_craft_ |
it sure looks that way but I'm not holding my breath |
| 00:08 |
blah_craft_ |
good point too |
| 00:08 |
marktraceur |
blah_craft_: Yes, there are a *lot* of recipes, because we can add them through mods. Most mods (IIRC) aren't documented at the main wiki |
| 00:08 |
blah_craft_ |
oh ok - thx |
| 00:09 |
mauvebic |
isnt california having a hard time housing inmates too? |
| 00:09 |
blah_craft_ |
lol. yep - i think schwarzanegger pardoned a bunch of ppl years ago but I don't know what effect that had, if any |
| 00:10 |
blah_craft_ |
there's a lot of problems in cali but i'm moving out of cali next year anyway |
| 00:11 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: I heard a story about a federal prison in California |
| 00:11 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: They had an execution room that was some size, I don't remember the dimensions exactly |
| 00:11 |
mauvebic |
its ironic they wont discuss legalizing drugs but having a public debate about euthanizing old folks is ok lol |
| 00:12 |
blah_craft_ |
lol |
| 00:12 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Anyway, they spent millions building this room, and then a District Court judge came to visit and said "Eh, it's not big enough". |
| 00:12 |
mauvebic |
cali has executions? |
| 00:12 |
marktraceur |
So they're required to make it bigger or risk having cases overturned on cruel and unusual punishment grounds |
| 00:12 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: At least in the federal prisons, yeah |
| 00:12 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: The federal government has no qualms about executing federal offenders |
| 00:13 |
kaeza |
I wish I could delete annoying posts from my topics... |
| 00:14 |
mauvebic |
if my gov't wanted to get rid of someone they'd probably have it done by a foreign gov't when said citizen went overseas |
| 00:14 |
mauvebic |
ironic how capital (and your job) can move freely through borders but you cant lol |
| 00:15 |
mauvebic |
then again who wants to follow the jobs to china or india and be paid what they are paid |
| 00:18 |
blah_craft_ |
cost of living is lower there too. the trick is to get a high paying job in a big city and convince them to let you work remotely and live somehwere with a very low cost of living |
| 00:19 |
mauvebic |
that comes in trends too |
| 00:19 |
mauvebic |
every few years they realize they can save money by having people work from home |
| 00:19 |
mauvebic |
every other few years they realize its better to have everyone inhouse for pointless meetings and powerpoint presentations |
| 00:20 |
Kacey |
does pipeworks have an api? |
| 00:20 |
Kacey |
i want to make an extension on it |
| 00:21 |
mauvebic |
my experimental one has some sort of an API |
| 00:21 |
mauvebic |
cant say for sure about master |
| 00:21 |
telek |
Hey, is it possible to make animated weapons, similiar to the animated torches? |
| 00:21 |
* Kacey |
forgot mauvebic worked on pipeworks |
| 00:22 |
Kacey |
since they are only held, no |
| 00:22 |
telek |
Wait 'Mauve Bic'... You're a tan lighter? |
| 00:22 |
mauvebic |
it used to be purplebic before the sex change |
| 00:23 |
blah_craft_ |
mauve is purple bro |
| 00:23 |
telek |
Erm purple :D |
| 00:23 |
mauvebic |
lol i am joking |
| 00:23 |
telek |
Well I just reasserted my straight maleness at least :D |
| 00:23 |
blah_craft_ |
dang it - i walked straight into that one |
| 00:24 |
telek |
Lol, sorry blah :D |
| 00:24 |
mauvebic |
actually for a white guy i have a pretty barry white-ish voice |
| 00:24 |
blah_craft_ |
no worries - I am very secure in my sexuality. If you try to challenge that, things could get real gay, real quick |
| 00:25 |
mauvebic |
i only scream like a woman when im surprised/frightened |
| 00:25 |
blah_craft_ |
lol |
| 00:25 |
mauvebic |
but ive noticed thats most men lol |
| 00:27 |
blah_craft_ |
ever seen the video on youtube - "no homo goes too far"? |
| 00:27 |
mauvebic |
doesnt ring a bell |
| 00:27 |
mauvebic |
youtube keeps proposing all these conspiracy videos |
| 00:27 |
mauvebic |
just because i looked up that 'strange hum/noise" thing from last year |
| 00:28 |
mauvebic |
i hate personalized results - it gives the same videos over and over and rarely what im actually looking for lol |
| 00:28 |
blah_craft_ |
lol. my netflix keeps suggesting all these crappy chic-flics cause my wife likes to watch those when I'm at work |
| 00:29 |
mauvebic |
well they cancelled Boss this year |
| 00:29 |
mauvebic |
and renewed mad men which had a god awful season |
| 00:30 |
mauvebic |
walking dead was good the first season |
| 00:31 |
mauvebic |
and im waiting for berman and bragga to retire so they can make a decent star trek |
| 00:31 |
blah_craft_ |
until they started doing split seasons - i heard it's coming back next week for the second half of the season though |
| 00:31 |
blah_craft_ |
it's like not quite enuogh to get a good fix |
| 00:31 |
mauvebic |
i wouldnt want to be a UK resident though - i hear TV license people harass citizens who dont buy their stupid licenses ( i have no cable anymore lol) |
| 00:32 |
blah_craft_ |
what do u mean? this is new to me |
| 00:32 |
mauvebic |
BBC/TV licensing? |
| 00:33 |
mauvebic |
where do you live? |
| 00:33 |
blah_craft_ |
in the US, CA |
| 00:33 |
mauvebic |
they pay a tax over there just to have a TV |
| 00:33 |
blah_craft_ |
what kind of rackett r u talkign about now? |
| 00:33 |
mauvebic |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence |
| 00:34 |
mauvebic |
no one here would ever pay more to be subjected to loader and longer commercials lol |
| 00:35 |
mauvebic |
*louder |
| 00:35 |
blah_craft_ |
oh now i see - yes our commercials are way out of hand |
| 00:35 |
mauvebic |
and buying a dvd doesn't solve anything - youre forced to watch previews for half an hour lol |
| 00:36 |
blah_craft_ |
i take those ones back |
| 00:36 |
blah_craft_ |
just on principle |
| 00:37 |
mauvebic |
well after replacing my dvd player for xxth time a few years ago i said it fuck it |
| 00:37 |
telek |
Out of curiousity, has anyone run minetest on a platform other than x86/amd64/arm? |
| 00:37 |
mauvebic |
just when i thought i was done building up my dvd collection, hd=dvd and bluray came out too lol so double-fuck-it |
| 00:38 |
mauvebic |
beta/vhs/dvd/hdvd/ its all a big racket to get you to buy the same crap over and over |
| 00:38 |
blah_craft_ |
^ that |
| 00:38 |
blah_craft_ |
and they wonder why everyone pirates |
| 00:39 |
mauvebic |
well its like OS's getting bloatier and bloatier to force people to buy a new computer |
| 00:40 |
mauvebic |
what they dont say is how much of the pirated stuff people have owned in one format or another over the years... |
| 00:40 |
mauvebic |
and its not like we haven't been there with VCRs lol |
| 00:41 |
telek |
Or the fact that they wouldn't have valuable IP to claim against us if not for the hundreds or thousands of years of now-public domain work which they pillaged for ideas, but to which they no longer feel a need to contribute? :D |
| 00:41 |
telek |
Oh, and y'know our forefathers allowing them copyright in the first place :D |
| 00:41 |
mauvebic |
thats because we dont sell quality products anymore, we sell knowledge |
| 00:42 |
mauvebic |
knowledge = power is 20th century |
| 00:42 |
mauvebic |
knowledge = money is 21st |
| 00:42 |
blah_craft_ |
what's 22nd going to be? |
| 00:43 |
mauvebic |
its hard to predict what the economy will look like in ten years |
| 00:43 |
telek |
Knowledge=3d printing schematics? :D |
| 00:44 |
mauvebic |
not just 3d printing /personal manufacturing |
| 00:44 |
blah_craft_ |
i like it |
| 00:44 |
mauvebic |
robots are becoming cheap enough to take away even the low wage jobs |
| 00:44 |
blah_craft_ |
back to the UKs licensign thing... how do they even catch license evasion? |
| 00:44 |
telek |
It's not just robots. |
| 00:44 |
telek |
It's also specialized computer software. |
| 00:45 |
telek |
OCR, Voice Recognition/Knowledgebase systems. |
| 00:45 |
mauvebic |
software is getting rid of alot of ancillery jobs |
| 00:45 |
mauvebic |
*ancillary? |
| 00:45 |
mauvebic |
yeah 2nd one |
| 00:45 |
telek |
Pretty soon they won't need entry level tech support jobs because they'll have something like watson calmly talking the customer through fixing their computer. |
| 00:45 |
mauvebic |
and even programmers aren't immune - eventually computers will write better code than people |
| 00:46 |
telek |
mauvebic: They'll never write better code than people. |
| 00:46 |
telek |
For one simple reason: Falliable developers can not devise infalliable systems :D |
| 00:46 |
dzho |
this is heavily dependent on your definition of "better" |
| 00:46 |
telek |
Well open-ended ones anyways :D |
| 00:47 |
mauvebic |
i had an interest in vrml and neural systems in the 90s, theyve come a long way |
| 00:47 |
mauvebic |
in effect the gov't isn't "watching" us per say, software filters all the raw data and flags the suspicious bits |
| 00:48 |
mauvebic |
they couldn't hire enough people to eyeball every camera |
| 00:48 |
telek |
Indeed. |
| 00:48 |
mauvebic |
some countries they pay surfers to watch cameras and report crimes |
| 00:48 |
telek |
But once they can identify individuals it opens up the possibility of persecution. |
| 00:48 |
mauvebic |
weve had persecution without computers |
| 00:49 |
telek |
Yeah, but now if you decide some day you don't like someone there's potentially a body of evidence there for you to hang them without having to wait and gather it after deciding such. |
| 00:49 |
telek |
And perhaps cooling your head in the meantime. |
| 00:50 |
mauvebic |
"body of evidence" requires a crime to have taken place |
| 00:51 |
telek |
And do you have a firm enough grasp on every law in your country to such a degree that you're sure you haven't infringed any for which you could be convicted? |
| 00:51 |
mauvebic |
as politicians will attest, the trick is not getting caught |
| 00:52 |
telek |
Or knowing the right people to get the charges dropped. |
| 00:54 |
telek |
.... |
| 00:54 |
mauvebic |
the worse thats happenned to me was 1K$ tickets (i was drunk and slightly obstreperous) |
| 00:54 |
telek |
10k here now. |
| 00:55 |
mauvebic |
10K in tickets? |
| 00:55 |
telek |
I think it's actually 6k ticket plus all the court fees, but yeah. |
| 00:55 |
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| 00:55 |
telek |
Unless you plead guilty and get it dropped to a lower charge. |
| 00:55 |
mauvebic |
i dont go to court |
| 00:55 |
mauvebic |
i contest yes, |
| 00:55 |
mauvebic |
that gives me 3 years to come up with the scratch |
| 00:55 |
blah_craft_ |
I did get a DUI when I was 19 - I can tell you first hand, when u add alll the costs, it is well over 7,500 |
| 00:55 |
mauvebic |
and i pay it before the deadline to court |
| 00:56 |
mauvebic |
theyre gonna start seizing vehicles for that here (good) |
| 00:56 |
mauvebic |
we have problems with repeat offenders |
| 00:57 |
mauvebic |
and ive always been a pedestrian/bus/metro person so, +100 |
| 00:57 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjoSIBAWBHc sfan5|off will appriciate |
| 00:58 |
mauvebic |
though im real careful with that now because tickets and student debts are the only things you cant discharge through bankruptcy here |
| 00:58 |
blah_craft_ |
yep, part of that cost was 1,800 to get my truck out after 30-day impound |
| 00:59 |
blah_craft_ |
try holding a field-services job without a license |
| 01:00 |
* telek |
nods. |
| 01:00 |
telek |
Mechanics job :D |
| 01:00 |
telek |
I've met at least three people with pulled licenses working as mechanics, and only one of them lost a job over it. |
| 01:01 |
telek |
One of the others was working for a dealership no less. |
| 01:01 |
mauvebic |
yeah no i dont take travellin' jobs with the winters we have here lol |
| 01:02 |
telek |
Nah, that's at the shop :) |
| 01:02 |
blah_craft_ |
basically - that was the worst decision i ever made and you will not catch me doing it again |
| 01:02 |
telek |
But it means they can't test drive, pull cars in, etc. Some places they can't even be insured to work on-premises. |
| 01:02 |
* telek |
nods. |
| 01:02 |
mauvebic |
i tend not to mouth off to cops unless theyre just looking to hand out tickets for whatever, and ive gotten some funky ones |
| 01:02 |
kaeza |
is it possible to store arbitrary data on an entity? |
| 01:03 |
mauvebic |
jwalking at 3am on a dead street... |
| 01:03 |
telek |
It's not worth mouthing off. Actually best I've heard if you wanna contest it is get down to the department before the end of the shift and contest it with the chief. |
| 01:05 |
mauvebic |
i once got a ticket for drinking beer on a bench during a festival |
| 01:05 |
telek |
Or sergeant, I don't really know the whole ranking order for LE. |
| 01:06 |
mauvebic |
(this while someone was peeing on the streets, and drugdealers operating at the subway station one street away...) lol |
| 01:06 |
mauvebic |
civil servants are a special breed of incompetent lol |
| 01:06 |
blah_craft_ |
they were supporting the local economy |
| 01:07 |
telek |
Dunno, seems like plenty of corporate types are giving them a run for their money. |
| 01:07 |
blah_craft_ |
the pee-er was giving the cleaner something to do, and the drug dealers were giving the doctors something to do |
| 01:07 |
blah_craft_ |
you were giving the leo somethign to do |
| 01:07 |
telek |
I personally thing it's a broad cultural shift rather than problems with specific groups, at least nowadays. |
| 01:07 |
mauvebic |
well whatever it worked, i drink at home now screw the bars and festivals and their economy lol |
| 01:08 |
blah_craft_ |
I'm just joking - probably just some over-zeleous rookie |
| 01:08 |
mauvebic |
naw montreal is the ticket capital of north america |
| 01:09 |
mauvebic |
they go trolling events to give obvious tickets |
| 01:09 |
telek |
Oh you poor sod. |
| 01:09 |
* telek |
heard Edmonton is pretty bad too. |
| 01:09 |
blah_craft_ |
How's Vancouver? |
| 01:10 |
telek |
So in other news.... JJ Abrams, fresh off a Star Trek reboot, is now directing the Star Wars reboot. |
| 01:10 |
telek |
Due in '2015 |
| 01:10 |
mauvebic |
canadian cities cant raise taxes like american ones, so they resort to issueing more tickets for everything |
| 01:12 |
mauvebic |
will this star wars be in incest-free? |
| 01:14 |
mauvebic |
i doubt they'd do it the same way this time lol |
| 01:14 |
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| 01:16 |
Dogzilla131 |
Who knows what is this? |
| 01:16 |
Dogzilla131 |
http://imgur.com/gT6j2eD |
| 01:17 |
blah_craft_ |
i don't know - wut is it? |
| 01:17 |
blah_craft_ |
sounds fishy |
| 01:17 |
Dogzilla131 |
It out the water, its in land |
| 01:17 |
Dogzilla131 |
*its |
| 01:19 |
blah_craft_ |
did u build that space? |
| 01:19 |
Dogzilla131 |
? |
| 01:20 |
blah_craft_ |
the room in which the snapshot was taken.. |
| 01:21 |
Dogzilla131 |
nope |
| 01:21 |
telek |
mauvebic: Not as a Disney subsidiary :D |
| 01:23 |
blah_craft_ |
I have no idea - I thought minetest didn't have monsters, but what do i know? i just found minetest this morning. lol |
| 01:23 |
Kacey |
/clearobjects really lags me |
| 01:25 |
Dogzilla131 |
http://imgur.com/qyr98MZ |
| 01:25 |
Dogzilla131 |
Its in the MOB Framework mod |
| 01:25 |
Dogzilla131 |
i think |
| 01:26 |
Kacey |
!up 67.190.14.129 |
| 01:26 |
Minetest-tan |
67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.309ms) |
| 01:26 |
Dogzilla131 |
it gave me 3 toxic meat |
| 01:26 |
Kacey |
hey sweet |
| 01:26 |
Dogzilla131 |
i should eat it |
| 01:29 |
Dogzilla131 |
it took me 2 and half lives |
| 01:29 |
Dogzilla131 |
when i ate it |
| 01:29 |
Dogzilla131 |
ill eat again :P |
| 01:30 |
kaeza |
kaeza> is it possible to store arbitrary data on an entity? |
| 01:31 |
Kacey |
idk |
| 01:33 |
Kacey |
memory capacitor |
| 01:33 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOuo_aWOQAU |
| 01:33 |
Kacey |
ima make it |
| 01:34 |
kaeza |
nice |
| 01:35 |
kaeza |
BTW, Kacey: shameless plug: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4562 |
| 01:38 |
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| 01:38 |
NekoGloop |
Is it just me or is login to freenode taking longer? |
| 01:42 |
NekoGloop |
Meow? |
| 01:43 |
NekoGloop |
Is there any way to detect the light level of a particular nodespace? |
| 01:45 |
Kacey |
ok ima make a calculator |
| 01:46 |
Kacey |
bbiab |
| 01:58 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4562 |
| 01:58 |
kaeza |
and hi :) |
| 01:58 |
NekoGloop |
I saw |
| 01:59 |
kaeza |
comments? |
| 01:59 |
NekoGloop |
idk. |
| 01:59 |
kaeza |
I'm extending it to support other things |
| 02:00 |
kaeza |
like mortars and such |
| 02:00 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop, I think you can do it with minetest.env:get_node_light() |
| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: The importance of this, if you're wondering, is a random chest generation procedure. |
| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
It would produce chests only in areas where the light is below a certain level. |
| 02:12 |
kaeza |
seems good |
| 02:12 |
kaeza |
that function should do the work |
| 02:12 |
NekoGloop |
Chests may be interchangable with pots or anything else relly. |
| 02:12 |
NekoGloop |
really even |
| 02:14 |
kaeza |
so you mean something like the chests in the dungeons |
| 02:14 |
kaeza |
but with any shape |
| 02:15 |
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| 02:15 |
NekoGloop |
Sure. If you feel like making a nodebox and sending it my way later. |
| 02:18 |
kaeza |
sure. do you have anything in mind? |
| 02:19 |
NekoGloop |
A pot. |
| 02:19 |
NekoGloop |
The type that would be made from e.g. ceramic |
| 02:21 |
telek |
You should make it double as a helm for the armor mod. |
| 02:21 |
telek |
Then we can claim wearers of it are 'potheads' |
| 02:21 |
NekoGloop |
heh. |
| 02:21 |
NekoGloop |
The pot won't be collectable. |
| 02:22 |
kaeza |
hmm... |
| 02:22 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: Half a node in height, too. |
| 02:23 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop, how about something like this? http://trialx.com/g/Pots-2.jpg |
| 02:25 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: http://wiki.pixbits.com/index.php/Vase is what i'd like |
| 02:26 |
kaeza |
looks nice |
| 02:27 |
NekoGloop |
Indeed. |
| 02:28 |
NekoGloop |
However i want that design in halfnode height. |
| 02:28 |
kaeza |
no prob |
| 02:29 |
NekoGloop |
Don't send it to me now, i'm on my ipad. |
| 02:30 |
NekoGloop |
Won't do me much good. |
| 02:33 |
* NekoGloop |
pokes the channel for signs of life |
| 02:33 |
kaeza |
I'll try to make it later. Too tired now. |
| 02:33 |
* NekoGloop |
is attacked by a swarm of flys |
| 02:34 |
* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on kaeza's head |
| 02:35 |
* kaeza |
puts it along with his 4 other kittens |
| 02:35 |
kaeza |
*hiss* |
| 02:35 |
* NekoGloop |
sits on kaeza's head |
| 02:36 |
NekoGloop |
The kittens tell me it's comfy =w= |
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| 02:51 |
Dogzilla131 |
Hi all |
| 02:51 |
Dogzilla131 |
Finish my mod :D |
| 02:51 |
NekoGloop |
hello random person i can't remember |
| 02:51 |
Dogzilla131 |
Hello stranger |
| 02:52 |
bas080 |
What did you make? Dogzilla131 |
| 02:52 |
* Dogzilla131 |
puts puppies in NekoGloop head, and pockets. |
| 02:52 |
Dogzilla131 |
Dog Blocks |
| 02:52 |
Dogzilla131 |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65952#p65952 |
| 02:52 |
bas080 |
Hey NekoGloop, Are you really making a pot/vase? |
| 02:53 |
* NekoGloop |
hisses and removes them, throwing them across the room. |
| 02:53 |
NekoGloop |
bas080: Indeed. No need to link your post, i saw it. |
| 02:53 |
* Dogzilla131 |
saves all of them |
| 02:54 |
NekoGloop |
bas080: Other than that, is there anything else you can think of for glooptest? |
| 02:55 |
bas080 |
***Bas080 is thinking |
| 02:56 |
NekoGloop |
***NekoGloop is using stupid astericks when typing |
| 02:56 |
bas080 |
hehehe |
| 02:56 |
bas080 |
How do you do the *** thing? |
| 02:56 |
Dogzilla131 |
me dont know whats astericks |
| 02:57 |
* Dogzilla131 |
dont know whats astericks is, but still laughs |
| 02:57 |
NekoGloop |
bas080: in minetest that means something was said by the server. |
| 02:57 |
Dogzilla131 |
put /me |
| 02:57 |
NekoGloop |
Which minetest's version of /me does. |
| 02:58 |
NekoGloop |
You tell the server to say playername..contentofmessage |
| 02:58 |
bas080 |
ok |
| 02:58 |
NekoGloop |
actually it's saying "***â€..playername.." "..contentofmessage |
| 02:58 |
NekoGloop |
But you get my point. |
| 02:59 |
NekoGloop |
Because i dont think the three astericks are included in server messages by default. It's just a standard. |
| 03:00 |
NekoGloop |
Like 50% of my visible chat is me |
| 03:00 |
kaeza |
srsly, this guy is really pissing me off http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65954#p65954 |
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BackupCoder |
? |
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kaeza |
o hai BackupCoder |
| 03:01 |
kaeza |
wb |
| 03:01 |
BackupCoder |
:) |
| 03:02 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: What? |
| 03:03 |
kaeza |
jojoa |
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kaeza |
he's getting up my nerves |
| 03:03 |
kaeza |
he does not post constructive criticism, he's just plain b*tching |
| 03:07 |
Dogzilla131 |
Its ok kaeza, im okay with the criticism :) |
| 03:07 |
mauvebic |
perhaps we could do something to his voice box |
| 03:07 |
kaeza |
he somewhat reminds me of this lol http://cheezburger.com/6977654272 |
| 03:09 |
bas080 |
be nice kaeza, everyone can have an of day Sometimes i can typing |
| 03:09 |
NekoGloop |
Like that one. |
| 03:11 |
kaeza |
okay, I'll let it pass this time. But he and that Likwid guy seen to be spamming one-line posts everywhere |
| 03:12 |
* kaeza |
needs to cool off a bit |
| 03:12 |
mauvebic |
since when do cold pills produce auditory hallucinations? |
| 03:13 |
mauvebic |
i keep hearing knocks at the door (like picard) |
| 03:13 |
Dogzilla131 |
These freak me out. http://cheezburger.com/6993793024 |
| 03:13 |
NekoGloop |
Since you took them, mauvebic. |
| 03:15 |
NekoGloop |
Dogzilla131: I succeeded at keeping my eyes on the cross. |
| 03:16 |
mauvebic |
they told me generic was the same lol buckleys never did this |
| 03:16 |
Dogzilla131 |
Yes, but din't you see their faces while keeping eyes in the cross, NekoGloop |
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NekoGloop |
Dogzilla131: I saw them changing, not them themselves. |
| 03:37 |
bas080 |
NekoGloop, What about some areas have really dense ore amounts. Let's call them mines. I know there has been allot of discussion on this topic. I'm not sure myself but you could ad it for dessert coal or something else just to test if it works for the gameplay. Other ideas are explosive ores. Don't punch the ore or it will explode! Very rare and only between certain narrow heights(to not make it to annoying). |
| 03:37 |
bas080 |
Other ideas... still thinking |
| 03:39 |
OldCoder |
Hey |
| 03:39 |
bas080 |
Hallo OldCoder |
| 03:40 |
OldCoder |
bas080, Hello. |
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OldCoder |
VanessaE, what should I update? Are things ready now? |
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kaeza |
sorry to repeat myself (yet again), but how can I store arbitrary data in an entity? |
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OldCoder |
VanessaE, around? I wish to discuss your mods |
| 04:37 |
VanessaE |
I am now |
| 04:37 |
VanessaE |
but only for a minute or two |
| 04:38 |
VanessaE |
mods... Homedecor is stable and ready to be updated. Experimental, improved versions of plantlife and moretrees are up as well (see "newapi" branch of each of their respective repos) |
| 04:38 |
VanessaE |
all of these are in service on my server now. |
| 04:40 |
VanessaE |
well a few more minutes anyway |
| 04:48 |
* VanessaE |
pokes OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
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| 04:48 |
OldCoder |
I don't want experimental |
| 04:48 |
OldCoder |
I want not broken |
| 04:48 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 04:48 |
OldCoder |
That is not meant |
| 04:48 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 04:48 |
OldCoder |
to be negative |
| 04:48 |
OldCoder |
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VanessaE |
I know |
| 04:48 |
OldCoder |
Please indicate |
| 04:48 |
OldCoder |
what to install |
| 04:48 |
OldCoder |
|
| 04:49 |
VanessaE |
in this case "experimental" means i'm not yet convinced this is stable, but it hasn't crashed in the couple of hours it's been under test. |
| 04:49 |
VanessaE |
anyway if you wanna stick to the stable stuff, just update Home Decor ( https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor ) |
| 04:50 |
VanessaE |
I rewrote all of the doors' code to condense into two files with the help of some loops, and made them respond to right click to open, if the user's version of Minetest supports it. |
| 04:50 |
VanessaE |
(else they punch to open) |
| 04:51 |
VanessaE |
there was also a bugfix to plantlife but nothing that you need to worry about. |
| 04:51 |
VanessaE |
(to the master branch) |
| 04:54 |
OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
Did you not |
| 04:54 |
OldCoder |
tell me to update pipeworks? |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
oh yes |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
pipeworks is stable afaik |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
No one's mentioned any bugs, and no pull requests from Nore to correct anything, so go for it |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
but, bear in mind: |
| 04:57 |
OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
? |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
er, nevermind. bear nothing in mind ;) |
| 04:57 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 04:58 |
OldCoder |
So homedecor and pipeworks |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
go for it. |
| 04:58 |
OldCoder |
plantlife too if I pull the same one as before? |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
as long as you pull from master, plantlife will only show a minor bugfix. |
| 04:58 |
OldCoder |
that is fine |
| 05:00 |
VanessaE |
are you running the latest moretrees also? |
| 05:00 |
VanessaE |
it's stable, and strictly mapgen-based |
| 05:00 |
VanessaE |
(well, of course saplings eventually grow if planted) |
| 05:06 |
OldCoder |
How recent is "latest" ? |
| 05:06 |
OldCoder |
I have been away for a few days |
| 05:08 |
VanessaE |
um |
| 05:08 |
VanessaE |
Jan 22,. |
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Linxx |
hello :) |
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kaeza |
new update for anyone interested: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4562 |
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jordan4ibanez1 |
Moo |
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jordan4ibanez1 |
Moo. |
| 06:18 |
VanessaE |
moo. |
| 06:18 |
jordan4ibanez1 |
Moo... |
| 06:20 |
jordan4ibanez1 |
I wonder if I can get my server light commands into minetest vanilla when I'm done. |
| 06:35 |
kaeza |
wat |
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* VanessaE |
pokes kaeza with a homedecor door. :_) |
| 06:45 |
VanessaE |
:) |
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kaeza |
*the server crashes* :D |
| 06:46 |
kaeza |
sup V? |
| 06:46 |
VanessaE |
not much |
| 06:47 |
kaeza |
have you seen my new mod? It's not...very peaceful at all. But it seems many users were looking for smth like that. |
| 06:48 |
VanessaE |
no, haven't seen it |
| 06:48 |
kaeza |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4562 |
| 06:48 |
VanessaE |
feel like playing around with something experimental? :) |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife/commits/newapi |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/VanessaE/moretrees/commits/newapi |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
also, you forgot to put a proper railgun in your mod ;) |
| 06:50 |
kaeza |
sure |
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kaeza |
:O |
| 06:50 |
kaeza |
nice idea! |
| 06:53 |
kaeza |
haven't played around with the plant_lib API yet |
| 06:53 |
VanessaE |
those links are for the new version of the API. |
| 06:54 |
VanessaE |
it's what I've been working on all day :) |
| 06:54 |
hmmmm |
EnvRef::get_perlin_map() is looking pretty good, rev up your mods for some super fast perlin noise! |
| 06:54 |
hmmmm |
:)!! |
| 06:54 |
hmmmm |
sorry it took so long to get to this point |
| 06:55 |
VanessaE |
how does that differe from perlin....:get2d() ? |
| 06:56 |
hmmmm |
it uses my perlin noise functions |
| 06:56 |
hmmmm |
which makes it literally over 80x faster |
| 06:56 |
hmmmm |
which means you can use perlin noise less sparingly in mods |
| 06:56 |
VanessaE |
ah |
| 06:57 |
hmmmm |
it's not going to be worth much without a 'get' analog to PlizAdam's set_node_range |
| 06:57 |
hmmmm |
i suppose |
| 06:57 |
hmmmm |
what i really want to do is scrap that altogether and work on a VoxelManipulator interface with lua |
| 07:00 |
kaeza |
is there any way to create a player entity from Lua? |
| 07:00 |
VanessaE |
while you're at it, could you extend remove_node() so that it can take minp, maxp and rapidly clear out the specified cube? |
| 07:00 |
hmmmm |
i don't think so |
| 07:01 |
hmmmm |
vanessa, how is that different from set_node_range with the air node? |
| 07:01 |
kaeza |
I've seen that it is posible to :remove() the entities representing players |
| 07:01 |
kaeza |
effectively making players "inviisible" |
| 07:01 |
VanessaE |
set_node_range? |
| 07:01 |
VanessaE |
*looks at api* |
| 07:01 |
hmmmm |
it's not in there yet |
| 07:02 |
hmmmm |
oh sorry |
| 07:02 |
hmmmm |
set_nodes() |
| 07:02 |
hmmmm |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/440 |
| 07:02 |
VanessaE |
ah |
| 07:02 |
VanessaE |
yes that's just what I was thinking of. |
| 07:03 |
hmmmm |
minetest.env:set_nodes({{minp=p1, maxp=p2, node = {name="default:air"}}) would be an alias for your remove |
| 07:03 |
VanessaE |
in which case, I take back my request. :-) |
| 07:26 |
thexyz |
lol http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4561 |
| 07:29 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 07:29 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: to be fair, the revised theme is a little... odd. Any chance of getting some additional themes installed? |
| 07:33 |
thexyz |
sure |
| 07:33 |
thexyz |
just give me links to them |
| 07:33 |
VanessaE |
I'll look into it tomorrow when I'm less tired :) |
| 07:35 |
thexyz |
and can you tell me what is odd? |
| 07:36 |
VanessaE |
well, as mentioned on the thread you linked to, the yellow highlight for text |
| 07:36 |
theabc |
very odd |
| 07:36 |
VanessaE |
also, it feels like a lot of screen space is wasted - too much whitespace |
| 07:37 |
VanessaE |
but that's just my obsessive nature talking :) |
| 07:37 |
kaeza |
it also removed the "Last edited..." message |
| 07:37 |
VanessaE |
I think that message was moved to the top of the post |
| 07:37 |
VanessaE |
thought I saw it yesterday |
| 07:38 |
VanessaE |
"2012-06-12 10:11:59 (edited by VanessaE 2013-01-23 07:03:22)" |
| 07:38 |
kaeza |
oh |
| 07:38 |
VanessaE |
(homedecor thread) |
| 07:38 |
kaeza |
I can barely see it |
| 07:39 |
kaeza |
okay, forget my bitching then :) |
| 07:39 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 07:41 |
thexyz |
ok, i removed the highlight |
| 07:41 |
thexyz |
is it perfect now? |
| 07:42 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 07:42 |
VanessaE |
yes, it's better :) |
| 07:42 |
VanessaE |
the other grips from that thread seem trivial to me, the highlight was the main thing I found off-putting :) |
| 07:42 |
VanessaE |
gripes* |
| 07:42 |
kaeza |
while you're at it change the background to VanessaE's HDX texture :P |
| 07:43 |
thexyz |
and about >too much whitespace, can you be more precise? |
| 07:43 |
thexyz |
kaeza: link? |
| 07:43 |
kaeza |
nah J/K |
| 07:43 |
thexyz |
well, I was just going to say "nope" |
| 07:43 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: https://raw.github.com/VanessaE/512px-realistic-textures/master/Vanessa_512HD/menubg.jpg |
| 07:43 |
kaeza |
IKR :) |
| 07:43 |
thexyz |
nope! |
| 07:44 |
kaeza |
trollololo |
| 07:44 |
VanessaE |
re: whitespace, look at the main forum page - all that empty space below/around the forum section titles and to the right of the last post time/user, for example |
| 07:44 |
thexyz |
though making it changeable may be nice |
| 07:45 |
VanessaE |
the Topics column should be shifted left so that the last post user name can be placed next to the date, then all of those sections can be vertically shrunk by a bit |
| 07:45 |
thexyz |
that'd look really weird |
| 07:46 |
celeron55_ |
ha, this is awesome http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65834#p65834 |
| 07:47 |
celeron55_ |
VanessaE: make a punbb theme and ask it to be added to the forum |
| 07:47 |
VanessaE |
celeron55_: too lazy ;) |
| 07:47 |
celeron55_ |
themes can be selected in personal preferences there |
| 07:47 |
celeron55_ |
to me, the current theme is 100% right and almost any modification is bad |
| 07:48 |
* OldCoder |
is resting |
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kaeza |
okay, time for bed. night all |
| 07:52 |
kaeza |
o/ |
| 07:53 |
thexyz |
hm.. |
| 07:53 |
thexyz |
>Another minor annoyance I just thought of: the "quick quote" option seems redundant; it does pretty much the same thing as "reply". |
| 07:54 |
thexyz |
that's odd, quick quote doesn't work as it's intended to in threads with poll |
| 07:55 |
celeron55_ |
thexyz: can you check the server logs of where all these views are coming to that topic? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65973#p65973 |
| 07:56 |
celeron55_ |
...i guess with my lock you don't have any log of referrers though 8) |
| 07:56 |
celeron55_ |
luck* |
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lauxrena |
hello earthlings |
| 07:58 |
celeron55_ |
the topic is like 1.5 weeks old and has many times the viewcount of redcrab's 8 month old topic 8) |
| 07:58 |
thexyz |
celeron55_: well, i have access_log disabled |
| 07:59 |
thexyz |
(for forum.minetest.net) |
| 07:59 |
thexyz |
shall i enable it? |
| 07:59 |
celeron55_ |
i'd say do that temporarily, for science |
| 07:59 |
celeron55_ |
and put the referrers in there |
| 07:59 |
celeron55_ |
i guess it should accumulate many accesses to that thread in minutes |
| 08:00 |
lauxrena |
so i have a question; what servers do you recommend for someone whos just getting into the whole multiplayer aspect of minetest?? |
| 08:00 |
thexyz |
ok, done |
| 08:00 |
thexyz |
referrers are there already |
| 08:00 |
lauxrena |
i've already visited one and was greated not so warmly haha |
| 08:01 |
VanessaE |
lauxrena: http://servers.minetest.ru/ |
| 08:01 |
VanessaE |
which one you play on depends on how you like to play |
| 08:02 |
lauxrena |
i'd just like to explore for now |
| 08:02 |
lauxrena |
i've been combing through the forums and yeah |
| 08:02 |
lauxrena |
thought it'd be quicker here |
| 08:03 |
VanessaE |
lauxrena: not really, not at this time of night anyway :) |
| 08:03 |
celeron55_ |
thexyz: how does it look? a grep will probably tell something already |
| 08:04 |
lauxrena |
pssh what is this 'night' you speak of? |
| 08:05 |
lauxrena |
:D |
| 08:05 |
VanessaE |
lauxrena: that event that happens ocne every ~24 hours, when the light in the big blue room gets shut off for a while |
| 08:05 |
VanessaE |
;) |
| 08:05 |
VanessaE |
once* |
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lauxrena |
lol so that's what that is |
| 08:08 |
thexyz |
celeron55_: nothing |
| 08:08 |
thexyz |
only my ip there |
| 08:11 |
celeron55_ |
guess we'll leave it on for an order of magnitude longer then 8) |
| 08:12 |
thexyz |
sure |
| 08:14 |
celeron55_ |
if it has been a reddit or 4chan or similar post, it could get practically no hits anymore and be completely undetectable :P |
| 08:15 |
VanessaE |
bbl. |
| 08:15 |
VanessaE |
night all |
| 08:16 |
lauxrena |
thanks for the list VanessaE |
| 08:21 |
lauxrena |
well earthlings i'm off |
| 08:23 |
thexyz |
celeron55_: then it's most likely minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4504, so check your logs too |
| 08:24 |
thexyz |
oh, wait, no |
| 08:25 |
thexyz |
well, you can check this one http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4431 |
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celeron55_ |
thexyz: umm? |
| 08:34 |
thexyz |
this one has 96 replies and >140k views |
| 08:35 |
thexyz |
oh fuck |
| 08:35 |
thexyz |
my brain is dead now |
| 08:35 |
thexyz |
celeron55_: forget it |
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thexyz |
huh, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/444 |
| 08:57 |
celeron55_ |
fun 8) |
| 08:58 |
celeron55_ |
that piece of log though is 99% likely just the port being used that the unit test stuff attempts to use |
| 08:59 |
thexyz |
i had similar problem before |
| 08:59 |
thexyz |
probably related to nvidia crap |
| 09:00 |
thexyz |
though other games don't cause it |
| 09:04 |
celeron55_ |
probably because minetest causes kind of unusual workload compared to traditional games |
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berome |
Hello. I'm gonna see if an IDE will be helpfull for me, for debbuging lua scripts. I choose ZeroBrane Studio, with an ubuntu. |
| 09:40 |
berome |
They are several interpreters, wich I must choose ? |
| 09:41 |
berome |
Loved2d, Moai, Gideros, coronna, GSL-shell ? |
| 09:41 |
berome |
http://studio.zerobrane.com/documentation.html |
| 09:44 |
thexyz |
how can ide help you to debug lua scripts that're run inside minetest? |
| 09:44 |
thexyz |
apparently, you should choose "minetest" as interpreter |
| 09:45 |
berome |
an IDE will help me to write correct syntax at least, no ? |
| 09:46 |
thexyz |
probably |
| 09:46 |
berome |
ok, seems I'm wrong again...thanks for your answer. :-) |
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thexyz |
>4) graphical engine - irrlicht doesn't give good graphic - in future we should move to OGRE (of course IMHO) |
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thexyz |
suuuure |
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whirm1 |
celeron55_: are you still interested in the hosting? |
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Brianetta |
Hi guys! |
| 11:27 |
Brianetta |
I cloned Minetest master last night, got it built. Compared to the 4fps I got from Minecraft, it was an absolute delight. |
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jojoa1997 |
hi |
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Mika_R |
hi |
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jojoa1997 |
hi |
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jojoa1997 |
again |
| 12:00 |
Mika_R |
Does the new release save servers? |
| 12:01 |
jojoa1997 |
yes |
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jojoa1997 |
it also has a new mapgen |
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Mika_R |
nice |
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jojoa1997 |
well a fixed and revised on |
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jojoa1997 |
it is still V7 |
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jojoa1997 |
V6 |
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jojoa1997 |
V7 will have definable biomes and rivers |
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jojoa1997 |
what os do you use |
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Mika_R |
I'm back to ubuntu now when i crashed my XP yesterday |
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Brianetta |
Is it normal to encounter bits of terrain that are hovering? |
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Mika_R |
hovering? |
| 12:30 |
Brianetta |
Not attached to the terrain ebelow it. |
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Brianetta |
I was playing last night, in the mini-dev-test world. |
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Brianetta |
I kept falling down very deep holes, and finding apparent discontinuities in the terrain. |
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Brianetta |
I do quit and restart a lot. |
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Brianetta |
Hello again, John |
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* Brianetta |
met john_minetest over on #Pioneer yesterday |
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sfan5 |
<MinetestBot> redcrab.grief New member 0 posts, registered on 2012-07-26 | id: 2523 |
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sfan5 |
^ interesting |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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sfan5 |
hi PilzAdam |
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Kacey |
hello |
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Kacey |
anyone on? |
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LAD |
hi kacy |
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LAD |
kacey* |
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Kacey |
hi ^_^ |
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LAD |
:) |
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RealBadAngel |
hi all |
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LAD |
hi RealBadAngel |
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Kacey |
i must go |
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LAD |
stupid computer clock is an hour slow |
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jojoa1997 |
hi |
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jojoa1997 |
who is here? |
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jojoa1997 |
:/ |
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NekoGloop |
Meow |
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MinetestBot |
NekoGloop: meow |
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NekoGloop |
Is my ping-time that low or is the bot laggy? |
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sfan5 |
NekoGloop: i did it by hand |
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NekoGloop |
Oh. |
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NekoGloop |
Why bother. |
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sfan5 |
!g +s irc |
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Minetest-tan |
sfan5: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat |
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NekoGloop |
Again, why link me to a definition of irc. |
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sfan5 |
not for you |
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NekoGloop |
whatever |
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NekoGloop |
has anything interesting happened in core dev? |
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sfan5 |
my pull request got merged and github rss feeds seem to be broken |
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NekoGloop |
So when do we get a stable with fancy trees? |
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RealBadAngel |
http://imgur.com/a/PXyaA#0 |
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RealBadAngel |
we are still workin on them |
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RealBadAngel |
link is to album with screenshot of trees with HD textures |
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RealBadAngel |
*screenshots |
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KikaRz |
Hi |
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KikaRz |
I'm again... on the desk! :D |
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KikaRz |
VanessaE, sweetie, are you there? |
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RealBadAngel |
NekoGloop, before stable with trees (which will require mapgen v7) trees will be aviable to play with plantslib/moretrees mod |
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NekoGloop |
mapgen v7 is upstream isnt it. |
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RealBadAngel |
no it isnt |
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KikaRz |
well |
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RealBadAngel |
improved v6 is |
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KikaRz |
people |
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KikaRz |
where i set the node name? |
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KikaRz |
like: |
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KikaRz |
Ploty place |
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KikaRz |
or something |
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KikaRz |
or ploty block |
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KikaRz |
(im not going to use ploty. |
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NekoGloop |
Meow. |
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Jordach |
hey NekoGloop |
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NekoGloop |
haihai |
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Jordach |
i did find some strangeness with the new right mouse button functions |
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Jeija |
@Jordach saw your post, will try to find the bug as soon as I can watch your video |
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Jordach |
Jeija, done |
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Jordach |
its up |
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Jordach |
http://youtu.be/pFhxJRwG0Gs |
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Jordach |
last night on LPGC, i somehow replaced a LOCKED CHEST with stairs |
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Jordach |
it also deleted the nodemeta with it |
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Jordach |
you can see its placing nodes where it shouldnt |
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Jeija |
yep, seems to be some incompatibility with my and PilzAdam's patch |
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Jordach |
so you can replace locked chests if youre not careful |
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Jordach |
and lose several stacks of mese while doing so |
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NekoGloop |
Who the d |
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NekoGloop |
Dfmhz |
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NekoGloop |
Damn ipad |
| 16:09 |
NekoGloop |
Who the fuck puts mese in chests |
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NekoGloop |
Carry it with you |
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Jordach |
NekoGloop, it wastes a fuckton of space |
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Jordach |
and considering one of my mining trips results in 16 stacks of cobble, space is greatly needed |
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NekoGloop |
Never mind... |
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Jordach |
we have spam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=66081#p66081 |
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KikaRz |
hey |
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NekoGloop |
You'd think it would at least make its own topis |
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NekoGloop |
topic |
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KikaRz |
why when i do Ctrl + V, the window closes? |
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KikaRz |
or when i press Enter |
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KikaRz |
(on the "explorer" of crunchbang / debian) |
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Zeg9 |
6 |
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Zeg9 |
Hi ! |
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KikaRz |
someone? |
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OldCoder |
Hi |
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RealBadAngel |
Jordach, why dont you use bags? |
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Jordach |
because extra menu |
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RealBadAngel |
have you tried UI? |
| 16:29 |
Jordach |
because extra menu |
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KikaRz |
people, how i change file manager? |
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Zeg9 |
Install another one |
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RealBadAngel |
in UI its max simplified to use the bags |
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Zeg9 |
(no kidding ...) |
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KikaRz |
... i said: how i change file manager. |
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KikaRz |
not how to install it |
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KikaRz |
i want a better one, this one is glitchy. closes when i press Ctrl + V or Enter on text boxes. |
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RealBadAngel |
in original Cornernote's version it wasnt so handy |
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rubenwardy |
hi all |
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NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: Care to share |
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rubenwardy |
spam bot, I think: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=66079#p66079 |
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markveidemanis |
hi |
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jojoa1997 |
VanessaE: you there? |
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jojoa1997 |
anyone: Does VanessaE's plantlife mod contain the habitat mod by here? |
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markveidemanis |
Hi jojoa |
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jojoa1997 |
hi |
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jojoa1997 |
:/ |
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jojoa1997 |
i am still sick. i got to school but last period i felt :/ and had to have my mom pick me up. |
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markveidemanis |
theres just one week left |
| 16:46 |
jojoa1997 |
no |
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jojoa1997 |
not for me |
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markveidemanis |
Ok |
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jojoa1997 |
how is the server |
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jojoa1997 |
marktwain one |
| 16:47 |
markveidemanis |
Umm... |
| 16:47 |
NekoGloop |
so all the spammers are friends. |
| 16:47 |
NekoGloop |
Seems legit |
| 16:47 |
markveidemanis |
empty |
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jojoa1997 |
NekGloop: i am not a spammer |
| 16:48 |
markveidemanis |
animals needs removing |
| 16:48 |
markveidemanis |
along with all the other crap |
| 16:48 |
markveidemanis |
that takes ages to load media |
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jojoa1997 |
they are great but cause too much lag |
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jojoa1997 |
go to #mtmt |
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markveidemanis |
:D |
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rubenwardy |
(4:47:58 PM) jojoa1997: NekGloop: i am not a spammer |
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rubenwardy |
You just post on average 24 posts a day |
| 16:50 |
RealBadAngel |
NekoGloop, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3933 |
| 16:50 |
rubenwardy |
24.837209302325581395348837209302 posts a day |
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rubenwardy |
1068 posts in 43 days |
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RealBadAngel |
sorry, was talkin and havent seen your request |
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jojoa1997 |
so i just am giving ideas. do you want me to consolidate all my posts to one a topic |
| 16:51 |
RealBadAngel |
yeah, write a book ;) |
| 16:51 |
jojoa1997 |
also i do hold back on a bunch i want to say |
| 16:51 |
RealBadAngel |
kidding ;) |
| 16:51 |
jojoa1997 |
RBA whos request and what is the request |
| 16:52 |
RealBadAngel |
NekoGloop's |
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rubenwardy |
No, but I have seen may times that you have forgoten to use the edit button. |
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rubenwardy |
:P |
| 16:52 |
RealBadAngel |
he asked for a link |
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jojoa1997 |
i am learning this is the first forum i ever joined |
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Calinou |
http://www.reddit.com/tb/17976v |
| 16:52 |
Calinou |
noooo |
| 16:53 |
jojoa1997 |
also can somone help me with an error |
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jojoa1997 |
11:48:07: ERROR[main]: The following mods have unsatisfied dependencies: bamboo |
| 16:53 |
rubenwardy |
you need to install bamboo mod |
| 16:53 |
jojoa1997 |
i check dependencies and i have them. also i can still play the game but it wont load the bamboo mod |
| 16:54 |
rubenwardy |
is bamboo directly called "bamboo" |
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rubenwardy |
(folder name) |
| 16:54 |
jojoa1997 |
and the bamboo mod has unsatified dependencies |
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jojoa1997 |
yes |
| 16:54 |
rubenwardy |
sometimes they all need to be in the same mod folder (ie: minetest/mods/minetest) |
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rubenwardy |
compared to "minetest/game/<game>/mods |
| 16:55 |
rubenwardy |
" |
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jojoa1997 |
could it be in this |
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jojoa1997 |
minetest/mods/test |
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jojoa1997 |
the game is called test_game |
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jojoa1997 |
and the mods do load |
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rubenwardy |
huh? |
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jojoa1997 |
i have others in it but the bamboo mod is the only one with an erroe |
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jojoa1997 |
error |
| 16:56 |
rubenwardy |
do you mean minetest/game/test |
| 16:56 |
jojoa1997 |
nonono |
| 16:56 |
rubenwardy |
or minetest/mods/minetest/test |
| 16:56 |
jojoa1997 |
i have a game called minetest/game/test_game |
| 16:56 |
jojoa1997 |
and the mods are in minetest/mods/test |
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markveidemanis |
jojoa go on the server, look at mainframe |
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markveidemanis |
0,502,0 |
| 16:57 |
jojoa1997 |
one sec |
| 16:57 |
rubenwardy |
they have to be in the minetest folder |
| 16:57 |
rubenwardy |
minetest/mods/minetest/test |
| 16:58 |
* Calinou |
is trying this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=66046#p66046 |
| 16:58 |
jojoa1997 |
nope same error one sec |
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jojoa1997 |
this is the dependencies |
| 16:59 |
jojoa1997 |
default,habitat |
| 16:59 |
rubenwardy |
I wish sfan5 would format this list better http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/ |
| 16:59 |
jojoa1997 |
that is what is written in the depends.txt |
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jojoa1997 |
do i need to have it like this default habitat or this default,habitat |
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rubenwardy |
sfan, what is the latest build you have done? |
| 17:01 |
* Jordach |
plays the waiting game with rendering a videop |
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Jordach |
-p |
| 17:01 |
Jordach |
and yes, im doing a first minetes video properly |
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Jordach |
minetest* |
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markveidemanis |
you timed out |
| 17:02 |
Jordach |
26 mins, how fun :P |
| 17:02 |
jojoa1997 |
guys with the favorite servers in the multiplayer tab do you have servers listed |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997, not saying mine :P |
| 17:03 |
jojoa1997 |
as in it isnt saving the server |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
after 27 mins of hell -- im not going through that again |
| 17:03 |
berome |
jojoa1997: |
| 17:04 |
berome |
depends.txt: |
| 17:04 |
berome |
List of mods that have to be loaded before loading this mod. |
| 17:04 |
berome |
A single line contains a single modname. |
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jojoa1997 |
ok thanks but i deleted it |
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rubenwardy |
(5:01:32 PM) rubenwardy: sfan, what is the latest build you have done? sfan5 |
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markveidemanis |
how do i do a link in forum? |
| 17:09 |
rubenwardy |
[url] [/url] |
| 17:10 |
markveidemanis |
k |
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markveidemanis |
help... |
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markveidemanis |
SpringLobby |
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markveidemanis |
HI! |
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markveidemanis |
OldCoder |
| 17:15 |
OldCoder |
Hi! |
| 17:15 |
OldCoder |
Had a PC problem |
| 17:15 |
OldCoder |
I am here for the day except for small errands |
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markveidemanis |
go on #mtmt , i need to give links and its *spammy* |
| 17:16 |
OldCoder |
PM |
| 17:16 |
OldCoder |
Channel not needed for links |
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Jordach |
hey OldCoder |
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jojoa1997 |
oc i also want to talk to you on #mtmt |
| 17:16 |
Jordach |
had a nice trip? |
| 17:17 |
jojoa1997 |
OC where did you go? |
| 17:19 |
OldCoder |
jojoa1997, Jordach Hi. jojoa1997 a city 400 miles away. Things will be explained over time. |
| 17:19 |
OldCoder |
This was my first flight in about 20 years. |
| 17:19 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, i think i got your gist |
| 17:19 |
Jordach |
(of the overall reason) |
| 17:19 |
* OldCoder |
shrugs |
| 17:19 |
jojoa1997 |
nice you went to the moon |
| 17:19 |
OldCoder |
Over time |
| 17:19 |
OldCoder |
400 miles not as far as Moon |
| 17:19 |
OldCoder |
Instead of Luna this was a land of Tuna |
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jojoa1997 |
i know |
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jojoa1997 |
i was goping to say jupiter but then i htought nah too far |
| 17:20 |
jojoa1997 |
*going |
| 17:20 |
markveidemanis |
... |
| 17:20 |
markveidemanis |
i could have said uranus... |
| 17:21 |
jojoa1997 |
how about venus hay hay |
| 17:21 |
markveidemanis |
stop now |
| 17:22 |
jojoa1997 |
bbl |
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markveidemanis |
do the ghost thing... |
| 17:27 |
jojoa1997_ |
what is it again |
| 17:27 |
markveidemanis |
nickserv ghost name password |
| 17:28 |
jojoa1997_ |
jojoa1997 hi |
| 17:28 |
jojoa1997_ |
nnvm |
| 17:28 |
markveidemanis |
everyone associated with my server join #mtmt |
| 17:28 |
jojoa1997_ |
was gonna try to see if that did anything |
| 17:29 |
markveidemanis |
jojoa do you have an email |
| 17:30 |
Jordach |
i decided to draw myself with my art style: #http://i.imgur.com/ht5YwVQ.png |
| 17:30 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/ht5YwVQ.png |
| 17:30 |
Jordach |
(screw you hash key!) |
| 17:31 |
jojoa1997 |
markv i do but cant register my name |
| 17:31 |
jojoa1997 |
one sec |
| 17:31 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997, /join #freenode and ask on how to register nick |
| 17:32 |
Jordach |
(beware, you will need to re-enter the password with /msg nickserv identify <pass> |
| 17:32 |
Jordach |
) |
| 17:32 |
berome |
Jordach: nice; on side of collar is special... |
| 17:32 |
jojoa1997 |
what do i ask |
| 17:32 |
Jordach |
berome, thats my hoodie |
| 17:32 |
markveidemanis |
/msg NickServ REGISTER bar foo bar.com |
| 17:32 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997, "how do i register my nick" |
| 17:33 |
thexyz |
inb4 /kick from #freenode |
| 17:33 |
Jordach |
30 seconds |
| 17:33 |
Jordach |
(before video finalizes) |
| 17:33 |
jojoa1997 |
markv i cant use my email |
| 17:34 |
NekoGloop |
Then get a real email. |
| 17:34 |
berome |
Jordach: ok, not same colours inside and outside, I have it |
| 17:34 |
jojoa1997 |
i have a rreal one but my mom controls it |
| 17:35 |
NekoGloop |
... |
| 17:35 |
NekoGloop |
You got on the forums, didn't you... |
| 17:35 |
jojoa1997 |
yeah but my mom left here pc on. now it isnt |
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jojoa1997_ |
ok that didnt work |
| 17:37 |
jojoa1997_ |
any know a good archiver for windows |
| 17:38 |
NekoGloop |
winrar |
| 17:38 |
Jordach |
winrar |
| 17:38 |
jojoa1997_ |
for all formats |
| 17:39 |
thexyz |
fuck winrar |
| 17:39 |
berome |
7zip is cool, no ? |
| 17:39 |
jojoa1997_ |
thexyz what do you use |
| 17:39 |
Jordach |
http://youtu.be/H_D4y69o7VE my video is being uploaded, so please wait an hour |
| 17:39 |
thexyz |
oh, youtube, >This video contains content from We Are The Hits, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds. |
| 17:39 |
thexyz |
jojoa1997_: i use gentoo |
| 17:39 |
thexyz |
fuck youtube too |
| 17:40 |
Jordach |
thexyz, lol music in youtube |
| 17:40 |
thexyz |
Jordach: sure |
| 17:40 |
jojoa1997_ |
thexyz does it compress and decompress all formats or alot of formats |
| 17:40 |
thexyz |
this is music video by Lindsey Stirling and I can't fucking watch it |
| 17:40 |
thexyz |
i'm depressed |
| 17:40 |
thexyz |
jojoa1997: of course it can |
| 17:41 |
jojoa1997 |
also is it free |
| 17:41 |
thexyz |
as in freedom, yeah |
| 17:41 |
* Jordach |
hands thexyz a kitten |
| 17:41 |
NekoGloop |
7zip is good if you don't mind shitty interfaces |
| 17:41 |
NekoGloop |
Which goes with the irssi user |
| 17:41 |
berome |
:-) |
| 17:41 |
jojoa1997 |
thexyz that is for linux not windows |
| 17:41 |
thexyz |
shitty interface? |
| 17:42 |
jojoa1997 |
is the any archiver that is on windows by default |
| 17:42 |
thexyz |
wtf do you use unarchiver for? |
| 17:42 |
NekoGloop |
buttons that use a whopping 2 colors? |
| 17:42 |
thexyz |
there should be only one fucking command: decompress |
| 17:42 |
jojoa1997 |
what about compressing |
| 17:42 |
thexyz |
oh, well, one more button |
| 17:43 |
NekoGloop |
jojoa1997: explorer.exe can open and make .zip's if i'm not mistaken. |
| 17:43 |
Jordach |
bbiab |
| 17:43 |
thexyz |
well, in 7zip for windows you just right-click archive and select 7zip→decompress |
| 17:43 |
thexyz |
iirc |
| 17:43 |
NekoGloop |
winrar supports a lot of formats as well. |
| 17:43 |
thexyz |
it's not free |
| 17:43 |
NekoGloop |
it is |
| 17:44 |
thexyz |
nope |
| 17:44 |
NekoGloop |
they *want* you to pay for it, but don't *make* you pay for it. |
| 17:44 |
jojoa1997 |
i was using hamster archiver but that has problems |
| 17:45 |
NekoGloop |
Why would you use a hamster for archiving |
| 17:45 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: read the fucking license |
| 17:45 |
thexyz |
The software is distributed as try before you buy. This means that anyone may use the software during a test period of a maximum of 40 days at no charge. Following this test period, the user must purchase a license to continue using the software. |
| 17:46 |
thexyz |
it's not free |
| 17:46 |
thexyz |
and you have to buy it |
| 17:46 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: If that's the case then why don't they actually make it so you have to. |
| 17:46 |
jojoa1997 |
i am trying 7zip |
| 17:46 |
NekoGloop |
You just get a popup when the program opens, which is easily closed with the close button... |
| 17:46 |
RealBadAngel |
NekoGloop, have you tried UI? |
| 17:47 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: dunno |
| 17:47 |
thexyz |
still |
| 17:47 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: An old version, apparently. |
| 17:48 |
thexyz |
there was a possibility to get a free win8 key |
| 17:48 |
thexyz |
though that didn't make your win8 "legal" |
| 17:48 |
RealBadAngel |
who cares bout 8 |
| 17:48 |
NekoGloop |
Neither rba nor 0gb.us like to keep update logs or update version numbers. |
| 17:49 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/windows-good-and-shit.jpg |
| 17:50 |
thexyz |
where's win 2k? |
| 17:50 |
jojoa1997 |
so just wait for windows # |
| 17:50 |
jojoa1997 |
#=an odd number |
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marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: There are some typos there, they spelled "shit" as "good" a few times |
| 17:51 |
RealBadAngel |
its a funny picture just |
| 17:51 |
RealBadAngel |
imho there nothin like "good" microsoft OS |
| 17:52 |
jojoa1997 |
hay windows 7 is good |
| 17:52 |
RealBadAngel |
usable, but not any good |
| 17:53 |
jojoa1997 |
i like it and i am perfectly happy |
| 17:53 |
Doc22 |
the only reason I use windows |
| 17:53 |
Doc22 |
is because of call of duty, and a ton of other stuff that isnt on linux |
| 17:54 |
RealBadAngel |
answer is Wine |
| 17:54 |
RealBadAngel |
and i bet you can run Call of Duty on linux |
| 17:55 |
Doc22 |
hmm it uses steam so.. |
| 17:55 |
Doc22 |
well at least for black ops 2 |
| 17:55 |
marktraceur |
jojoa1997: People in insane asyla can also be happy, but that doesn't make an asylum good |
| 17:55 |
thexyz |
Doc22: so? |
| 17:56 |
Doc22 |
I also need to learn more about linux |
| 17:56 |
thexyz |
steam can be run via wine |
| 17:56 |
Doc22 |
oh ok |
| 17:56 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, problem with your image, what about win2000 |
| 17:56 |
Doc22 |
well i already payed 200$ for windows 7 :/ |
| 17:56 |
Doc22 |
and loaded all my stuff |
| 17:56 |
Doc22 |
I know that linux is better, but I am not that experienced. |
| 17:57 |
jojoa1997 |
markv you there |
| 17:57 |
Doc22 |
eventually I want to host a web server on linux |
| 17:57 |
marktraceur |
Doc22: You should also try GNU, it's really useful |
| 17:57 |
Doc22 |
with dns, mail, etc |
| 17:57 |
Doc22 |
okay |
| 17:57 |
RealBadAngel |
call of duty: moder warfare. status Gold. means runs perfectly on linux |
| 17:57 |
RealBadAngel |
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=8613 |
| 17:58 |
RealBadAngel |
world at war too |
| 17:58 |
RealBadAngel |
http://appdb.winehq.org/index.php |
| 17:59 |
RealBadAngel |
if some would like to check what games runs on linux |
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* Jordach |
gives NekoGloop a kitten |
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marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: You mean it runs perfectly on WINE |
| 18:00 |
marktraceur |
Which isn't Linux, because it's compiled for other kernels also (IIRC) |
| 18:00 |
RealBadAngel |
and thus on Linux |
| 18:00 |
NekoGloop |
wine == windows |
| 18:00 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
| 18:00 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: With type coercion, yes |
| 18:00 |
marktraceur |
WINE !== Windows |
| 18:01 |
RealBadAngel |
its API compability layer |
| 18:01 |
marktraceur |
But WINE == Windows |
| 18:01 |
RealBadAngel |
and Wine Is Not Emulator |
| 18:01 |
marktraceur |
Interestingly, !WINE == Windows also |
| 18:01 |
thexyz |
but RealBadAngel but wine for arm is |
| 18:01 |
Jordach |
21 mins in my newest yt vid, aint nobody got no time for that |
| 18:01 |
thexyz |
there's also wine for windows, btw |
| 18:01 |
Jordach |
(uploading wise) |
| 18:03 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: Anyway, the ultimate lesson in this conversation is, this is neither a place for Call of Duty tech support nor for WINE tech support. |
| 18:06 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe, indeed |
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Calinou |
<Doc22> well i already payed 200$ for windows 7 :/ |
| 18:09 |
Calinou |
lol |
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Calinou |
I accidentally my IRC client |
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| 18:14 |
NekoGloop |
I accidentally my cares. |
| 18:15 |
Doc22 |
oh ok realbadangel |
| 18:15 |
Doc22 |
anyway I already have all my stuff set up on windows... |
| 18:15 |
Doc22 |
ill learn more about linux |
| 18:15 |
Doc22 |
right now im just a hobbyist |
| 18:16 |
Doc22 |
so its easier for me to use windows... (inexperience with linux) |
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NekoGloop |
s/for me// |
| 18:18 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: That's simply not accurate :) |
| 18:19 |
NekoGloop |
One does not simply call me inaccurate. |
| 18:19 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: It would be far easier for me to use GNU/Linux than Windows. |
| 18:19 |
marktraceur |
So your statement is in accurate. |
| 18:19 |
marktraceur |
inaccurate* |
| 18:20 |
NekoGloop |
Why, so you can fuck up your os even more than you can on windows? |
| 18:20 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: What do you mean? It's easier for me to run an OS that I understand than it is to run one I don't. |
| 18:22 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: And yes, changing the OS in more basic ways is part of that, it enables me to do more awesome things, better :) |
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Doc22 |
well i grew up on windows xp so im the same way you are marktraceur, except on windows... |
| 18:23 |
Doc22 |
I want to learn more about linux |
| 18:24 |
Doc22 |
but at this point, i can use windows easier, because I understand it more |
| 18:24 |
marktraceur |
Doc22: I grew up on Win98, so I understand |
| 18:24 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 18:24 |
Doc22 |
itll take time for me to really understand linux |
| 18:25 |
marktraceur |
Doc22: But working with GNU/Linux for a few years has really been amazing, I can do so much more with this system than I ever could with Windows. |
| 18:25 |
Doc22 |
i only started with ubuntu like a year ago |
| 18:25 |
Doc22 |
and i had soo much trouble installing it |
| 18:25 |
Doc22 |
with compatibility etc |
| 18:25 |
marktraceur |
Doc22: The cool thing is, most of your normal functions from Windows-land are pretty similar in the big GNU/Linux distros |
| 18:25 |
Doc22 |
yeah i have used ubunty |
| 18:25 |
Doc22 |
ubuntu |
| 18:25 |
Doc22 |
on a laptop for a while |
| 18:25 |
Doc22 |
but I have a lot to learn |
| 18:25 |
Doc22 |
about security |
| 18:26 |
Doc22 |
etc |
| 18:26 |
Doc22 |
how to install stuff |
| 18:26 |
marktraceur |
Doc22: The really big advantages are when you can get into the more arcane shortcuts and features. Things like workspaces and command line hacks will be very useful. |
| 18:26 |
Doc22 |
itll just take time |
| 18:26 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 18:27 |
Jordach |
http://youtu.be/H_D4y69o7VE my video is now uploaded! |
| 18:28 |
marktraceur |
Doc22: If you ever need help with GNU/Linux, I'm available, PM me :) |
| 18:28 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 18:28 |
Doc22 |
thanks :) |
| 18:28 |
Doc22 |
i also have learned about workstations |
| 18:28 |
Doc22 |
its where you have like 4 desktops right? |
| 18:28 |
marktraceur |
Workspaces :) |
| 18:28 |
marktraceur |
I have 15 on my home computer |
| 18:28 |
Doc22 |
workspaces* |
| 18:28 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 18:28 |
Doc22 |
wow |
| 18:28 |
marktraceur |
I've found that 3 rows is about all I can handle |
| 18:28 |
thexyz |
Jordach: 360p? |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
480p |
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| 18:29 |
marktraceur |
5 columns is barely manageable |
| 18:29 |
Doc22 |
haha |
| 18:29 |
Jordach |
(i play in 800x600) |
| 18:29 |
Doc22 |
im pretty happy with my windows 7 pc for now |
| 18:29 |
Doc22 |
after all i did spend 200$' |
| 18:29 |
Doc22 |
but I will come to you later when I work with it more |
| 18:29 |
Doc22 |
I want to set up web server |
| 18:29 |
marktraceur |
Doc22: I suspect that most of that was hardware, not software... |
| 18:30 |
Doc22 |
and set it up as a host for the network |
| 18:30 |
Doc22 |
no it was just for windows |
| 18:30 |
marktraceur |
Oh wow. |
| 18:30 |
Doc22 |
i put it together from scratch |
| 18:30 |
Doc22 |
ikr. |
| 18:30 |
* marktraceur |
didn't realize the level of extortion they'd reached |
| 18:30 |
thexyz |
yeah, windows is damn expensive |
| 18:30 |
Doc22 |
marktraceur is it reasonable to set up a computer between the modem |
| 18:30 |
Doc22 |
and a network switch |
| 18:31 |
Doc22 |
then connect clients to the switch |
| 18:31 |
marktraceur |
Doc22: Yeah, you can use a computer as a router. IIRC VanessaE does that. |
| 18:31 |
Doc22 |
and also have a wireless card |
| 18:31 |
Doc22 |
in the pc |
| 18:31 |
Doc22 |
? |
| 18:31 |
sfan5 |
rubenwardy: look it up on my site |
| 18:31 |
Doc22 |
ok because I want to be able to host stuff without worrying about crappy router... |
| 18:31 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 18:31 |
Doc22 |
youll have to help me out with that. |
| 18:31 |
Doc22 |
masquerading? right? |
| 18:32 |
NekoGloop |
marktraceur: 7 is expensive, 8 is somewhere in the range of 69-89 dollars. |
| 18:32 |
Doc22 |
yeah but 8 is a pos from what i heard |
| 18:32 |
Doc22 |
unstable... |
| 18:32 |
Doc22 |
etc |
| 18:32 |
NekoGloop |
Indeed. |
| 18:32 |
Doc22 |
7 is the best one yet in my opinion |
| 18:32 |
Doc22 |
definitely not vista... |
| 18:32 |
Doc22 |
probably vista is the most unstable |
| 18:32 |
NekoGloop |
I think 7 is down to 179-200 now? Not sure. |
| 18:32 |
Doc22 |
hmm |
| 18:32 |
Doc22 |
i got mine for 190 |
| 18:33 |
Doc22 |
i think |
| 18:33 |
Doc22 |
or something like that |
| 18:33 |
Doc22 |
but i needed non-oem |
| 18:33 |
thexyz |
well, I'd better buy SSD for ~$120 |
| 18:33 |
Doc22 |
i got a ssd |
| 18:33 |
Doc22 |
and it runs like lightning |
| 18:33 |
thexyz |
Doc22: which one? |
| 18:33 |
Doc22 |
1 sec... |
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| 18:34 |
Doc22 |
http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=CT128M4SSD2 |
| 18:34 |
Doc22 |
and it runs like lightning |
| 18:34 |
Doc22 |
has 128gbs |
| 18:34 |
mauvebic |
do SSD's still burn out faster than hdds? |
| 18:34 |
NekoGloop |
I got my whole computer with windows xp and an office suite which isnt MS office but i cant remember what it was. |
| 18:34 |
Doc22 |
(actually slightly less) |
| 18:34 |
Doc22 |
and yes mauvbic |
| 18:34 |
mauvebic |
i got 7 years out of an old 160gb pata lol |
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thexyz |
well, I bought MZ-7PD128BW at ebay for 88$ + 30$ shipment to usa + ~$40 shipment to russia (fuck) |
| 18:34 |
Doc22 |
ssds take a slightly higher voltage to reset from 1 to 0 int he memory |
| 18:34 |
mauvebic |
shipping here is worse lol |
| 18:34 |
Doc22 |
and so after a while (so long that it isnt work fussing about) they become smaller |
| 18:35 |
NekoGloop |
The computer has a decent processor, but the graphics card is ew. |
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| 18:35 |
Doc22 |
not even worth worrying about |
| 18:35 |
Doc22 |
it increases the speed a TON |
| 18:35 |
mauvebic |
ups charges a fortune and breaks most shit |
| 18:35 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 18:35 |
Doc22 |
i had a lot of trouble with asus... |
| 18:36 |
Doc22 |
i ordered on amazon.com but forgot to look at the seller... |
| 18:36 |
Doc22 |
it was some guy in an apartment |
| 18:36 |
mauvebic |
my last netbook they wanted me to ship it myself, it cost 60$ (netbook costed 200$0 |
| 18:36 |
mauvebic |
*cost 200$ |
| 18:36 |
thexyz |
ukraine post is http://www.ilyke.net/uploads/2012/10/19/sub/13616-large-13616-5635989_700b.jpg |
| 18:36 |
Doc22 |
and it came with bent cpu pins, heat fluid spilled on it, and missing packaging |
| 18:36 |
Doc22 |
as "new" |
| 18:36 |
thexyz |
lol |
| 18:36 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 18:36 |
Doc22 |
i was just like "ooh 40$ off (click)" |
| 18:37 |
Doc22 |
and amazon was like "your order has been placed" |
| 18:37 |
mauvebic |
dont worry, if UPS guys smell things like marijuana, ittl disapear and no one dares complain lol |
| 18:37 |
Doc22 |
and then it came in and i was very dissapointed... |
| 18:37 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 18:38 |
Doc22 |
sooo... |
| 18:38 |
Doc22 |
:/ |
| 18:38 |
Doc22 |
back to hw |
| 18:38 |
thexyz |
Doc22: Samsung 840 pro is faster :P |
| 18:38 |
Doc22 |
you mean the ssd? |
| 18:38 |
thexyz |
yeah |
| 18:38 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 18:38 |
Doc22 |
well i wouldnt know |
| 18:38 |
Doc22 |
:p |
| 18:38 |
Doc22 |
i just wanted an ssd |
| 18:38 |
Doc22 |
its fast enough |
| 18:38 |
mauvebic |
i want an external 3tb |
| 18:38 |
Doc22 |
by the time my monitor calibrates |
| 18:39 |
Doc22 |
it is already loaded |
| 18:39 |
Doc22 |
and loading any game takes just as long as the monitor takes to calibrate |
| 18:39 |
mauvebic |
i have 1tb + 500gb + 250gb on 3 seperatecomputers lol |
| 18:39 |
Doc22 |
i have a 128gb ssd |
| 18:39 |
Doc22 |
and an external 1tb hd |
| 18:39 |
Doc22 |
usb3.0 |
| 18:39 |
thexyz |
mauvebic: buy internal one + usb case |
| 18:39 |
Doc22 |
i got it on black friday sooo... |
| 18:39 |
mauvebic |
that could be cheaper yeah |
| 18:39 |
Doc22 |
it was 30$ off |
| 18:40 |
Doc22 |
and i dont have to worry about all the stuff and compatibility |
| 18:40 |
thexyz |
i do have ST3000DM001 (ok) and WDC WD20EARS (fuck) |
| 18:40 |
Doc22 |
i have several old hds |
| 18:40 |
Doc22 |
from like 2000 |
| 18:40 |
Doc22 |
can i do the external case for them? |
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Doc22 |
(they arent sata) |
| 18:40 |
* Calinou |
has a 200GB HDD from 2004 |
| 18:40 |
Doc22 |
what came before sata |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
using it to backup my /home |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
:3 |
| 18:40 |
Doc22 |
what is it called |
| 18:41 |
marktraceur |
IDE |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
IDE |
| 18:41 |
thexyz |
Calinou: well, I also have 16gb one |
| 18:41 |
mauvebic |
i still haven't yanked the fucked 160gb from the P4, so it takes 15 mins to boot lol |
| 18:41 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 18:41 |
thexyz |
somewhere |
| 18:41 |
Doc22 |
i can remember that because im a programmer :D |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
<thexyz> Doc22: Samsung 840 pro is faster :P |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
and much more expensive too :P |
| 18:41 |
marktraceur |
Ding ding ding, and marktraceur advances to the Jeopardy championships |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
but it has a few more GB |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
no, you have -3,400$ |
| 18:41 |
Doc22 |
i spend 2000$ on this computer... |
| 18:41 |
mauvebic |
each time i open the case some plastic bit somewhere breaks lol |
| 18:41 |
Doc22 |
i dont need to spend more |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
Doc22: lol |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
what's your hardware? |
| 18:41 |
Doc22 |
im happy with what i got |
| 18:41 |
Doc22 |
ok i have the asus sabertooth x79 |
| 18:41 |
thexyz |
it's fun to compare it with 64gb microsdxc card |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
who cares about mobos? |
| 18:42 |
Doc22 |
8gbs of the "good stuff" ram |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
asus kinda sucks at linux anyway |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
MSI is probably the "less worst" 8) |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
Doc22: 12GB here :-D |
| 18:42 |
Doc22 |
i care because it has all the new stuff so that when the stuff os obsolete |
| 18:42 |
Doc22 |
i can pop in the newer chip |
| 18:42 |
mauvebic |
mobos matters lol |
| 18:42 |
Doc22 |
yeah i agre |
| 18:42 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: "least bad" |
| 18:42 |
Doc22 |
anyway.. |
| 18:42 |
mauvebic |
my P4 has a defective bios |
| 18:42 |
Doc22 |
i got the 17-2880 processor |
| 18:42 |
Doc22 |
LGA2011 |
| 18:42 |
Doc22 |
i got the corsair H-100 cooler |
| 18:43 |
Doc22 |
http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=CT128M4SSD2 |
| 18:43 |
Doc22 |
ssd |
| 18:43 |
Doc22 |
the HAF-912 tower |
| 18:43 |
Doc22 |
(epic) |
| 18:43 |
Doc22 |
and a viewsonic 27" monitor :O |
| 18:43 |
Doc22 |
its awesome having a 27" monitor |
| 18:43 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: How would you say that in French? "le moins mauvais"? (you speak French, right?) |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
CPUs with 2011 socket is for heat condensers :P |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
quad core is enough for me anyway :D |
| 18:44 |
Doc22 |
it has a liquid cooler with a 240mm radiator |
| 18:44 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
i7-2600K here |
| 18:44 |
Doc22 |
i never get above 20-30 cpu usage |
| 18:44 |
Doc22 |
with a 300$ processor |
| 18:44 |
Doc22 |
:D |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
(not overclocking it, heh, this is a bought computer, not a built one) |
| 18:44 |
mauvebic |
"incorrect IRQ routing tables" 2007 emachines |
| 18:44 |
Doc22 |
me neither |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
hexacore CPU for $300? |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
wait |
| 18:44 |
Doc22 |
yeah... |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
the cheapest one is 525 euros here |
| 18:44 |
Doc22 |
:O |
| 18:44 |
Doc22 |
whoah |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
with 270 euros in france you get a i7-3770 |
| 18:44 |
Doc22 |
ill send you a link |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
300 euros for the 3770K |
| 18:45 |
Calinou |
Doc22: cheapest _intel_ one ;-) |
| 18:45 |
Doc22 |
wait a sec... |
| 18:45 |
mauvebic |
you can get a tower for around 320$ cdn |
| 18:45 |
Calinou |
marktraceur: "le moins pire" |
| 18:45 |
Doc22 |
its not 2880 |
| 18:45 |
Calinou |
"pire" = "worst" |
| 18:45 |
Doc22 |
i meant 3820 |
| 18:45 |
Doc22 |
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-3820-Quad-Core-Processor-Cache/dp/B006YM9JSW/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1359139508&sr=1-3&keywords=intel |
| 18:45 |
Calinou |
in france, you pay the same number, but in euros instead of dollars :P |
| 18:45 |
Calinou |
a $1000 computer in the US will cost you #1000 |
| 18:45 |
marktraceur |
That makes sense, then |
| 18:46 |
Doc22 |
this processor never gets above 30% ysage |
| 18:46 |
Doc22 |
usage* |
| 18:46 |
Calinou |
€1000* |
| 18:46 |
Calinou |
Doc22: 0-4% usage at idle, linux ftw :3 |
| 18:46 |
Doc22 |
even with heavy gaming, multitasking, etc |
| 18:46 |
Doc22 |
me too |
| 18:46 |
Doc22 |
when idle |
| 18:46 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: It's weird that you would use two superlatives in the same sentence, but no less weird than double negatives. |
| 18:46 |
Calinou |
9% right now (running trackmania and red eclipse, clementine, pulseaudio) |
| 18:46 |
Doc22 |
it gets up to around 10 when im using it |
| 18:46 |
Calinou |
1900MB RAM used |
| 18:46 |
mauvebic |
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2817501&Sku=J001-22025 |
| 18:46 |
Doc22 |
but when nothing is going on |
| 18:46 |
Doc22 |
its around 4%' |
| 18:47 |
Doc22 |
the highest ive seen is 28% |
| 18:47 |
Doc22 |
8) |
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Doc22 |
this computer will last forever |
| 18:47 |
Doc22 |
well at least 8 years or so |
| 18:47 |
mauvebic |
and then you can reincarnate it with new parts |
| 18:47 |
Doc22 |
yeah because of the epic mobo |
| 18:47 |
Doc22 |
spend 100$ more on mobo |
| 18:48 |
hmmmm |
r u srs |
| 18:48 |
Doc22 |
and dont have to replace everything later |
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hmmmm |
mauvebic, is that a good deal? |
| 18:48 |
Doc22 |
good value in mah opinion |
| 18:48 |
hmmmm |
you're spending $322 on a c2d |
| 18:48 |
hmmmm |
before s&h |
| 18:48 |
Doc22 |
doesnt have that good of a cpu |
| 18:48 |
hmmmm |
you can get something brand new for that price that's way better |
| 18:48 |
Doc22 |
but i guess for servers |
| 18:48 |
jojoa1997 |
does anyone know if there is a 0.4.4 stable version of minetest for macs |
| 18:49 |
mauvebic |
i was thinking servers |
| 18:49 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 18:49 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997, no one here uses a MAC |
| 18:49 |
hmmmm |
doesn't matter what it's for - it's a horrible deal |
| 18:49 |
Doc22 |
i HATE APPLE |
| 18:49 |
Doc22 |
soo confusing... |
| 18:49 |
Doc22 |
once i got an ipod... |
| 18:49 |
Doc22 |
and I HATED IT |
| 18:49 |
Doc22 |
sorta |
| 18:49 |
thexyz |
apples are delicious |
| 18:49 |
Doc22 |
kinda |
| 18:49 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 18:49 |
hmmmm |
the last time someone tried using minetest on a mac he was saying he had problems..... problems that in theory shouldn't be happening.... he never came back though so i couldn't solve it. |
| 18:50 |
Doc22 |
better for nomming than using as a computer/ipod/ipad etc |
| 18:50 |
hmmmm |
now that my computer has VT-x i can install mac OS X in a vm and do some testing |
| 18:50 |
mauvebic |
well i got a new tower recently and its a dualcore too tho it didn't come with 6gbs of ram |
| 18:50 |
Doc22 |
:-) |
| 18:50 |
Doc22 |
hmmmmm |
| 18:50 |
jojoa1997 |
i need to get 0gb.us a minetest build for his powerpc mac |
| 18:50 |
Doc22 |
i got 8 gbs of ram |
| 18:50 |
Doc22 |
and its "the good stuff" |
| 18:50 |
hmmmm |
powerpc mac? you're gonna need to build it on your own |
| 18:50 |
Doc22 |
1866mhz is faster |
| 18:50 |
Doc22 |
from what i have been told |
| 18:51 |
Doc22 |
(ram) |
| 18:51 |
mauvebic |
i get by on 3 and the biggest consumer so far seems to be xfce4-panel @ 35% (wtf? lol) |
| 18:51 |
Doc22 |
and so far its living up to its name |
| 18:51 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 18:51 |
Doc22 |
i use 3 gbs sometimes |
| 18:51 |
Doc22 |
because i have like 20000 things up |
| 18:51 |
Doc22 |
once i was bored |
| 18:51 |
thexyz |
^^ http://i.imgur.com/qTq1qmu.jpg |
| 18:51 |
thexyz |
are there any phones with non-crappy camera? |
| 18:51 |
Doc22 |
so i spammed double click on my internet browser like 50 times |
| 18:52 |
mauvebic |
minetest runs on 20% of 3gbs here |
| 18:52 |
Doc22 |
and it didnt even lag |
| 18:52 |
Doc22 |
or get close to 80% cpu |
| 18:52 |
hmmmm |
heh, i have an IBM UltraStar that I use in my HP 9000 |
| 18:52 |
mauvebic |
and chromium at 2% after that |
| 18:52 |
Doc22 |
i mean srsly once i had 84 tabs open on my internet browser :/ |
| 18:53 |
Doc22 |
my new computer only lags when the program goes into a loop and stops responding |
| 18:53 |
jojoa1997 |
can anyone compile the irrchilt for powerpc mac. just that file |
| 18:53 |
Doc22 |
and it messes up the timing on some games so it looks like im speed hacking |
| 18:53 |
Calinou |
<Doc22> well at least 8 years or so |
| 18:53 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 18:53 |
* Jordach |
slaps mauvebic with a: |
| 18:53 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 18:53 |
Jordach |
AWESOME SCREENSHOT |
| 18:53 |
Calinou |
let me bet in 8 years, i3s will pwn your computer :P |
| 18:53 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 18:53 |
Calinou |
future proofing is not useful |
| 18:54 |
Doc22 |
the new ivy bridges are coming out |
| 18:54 |
Calinou |
remember that programs in 8 years will be made for CPUs that will exist in 8 years |
| 18:54 |
Doc22 |
for i-7 |
| 18:54 |
Calinou |
ivy bridge is so 2012 |
| 18:54 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 18:54 |
Calinou |
we will have haswell in 2013... |
| 18:54 |
hmmmm |
ivy bridge has already been out since june of last year |
| 18:54 |
Doc22 |
but its the new thing |
| 18:54 |
Calinou |
better IGP performance :3 |
| 18:54 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 18:54 |
Doc22 |
i dont know that much |
| 18:54 |
hmmmm |
haswell is useless for desktops |
| 18:54 |
jojoa1997 |
can anyone? |
| 18:54 |
Calinou |
on i7s, it should be as fast as a GT630 |
| 18:54 |
Calinou |
better than nothing |
| 18:54 |
Calinou |
hmmmm: no u |
| 18:54 |
Doc22 |
all i know is that my computer is epic and it will last for 8 years |
| 18:54 |
Doc22 |
i dont care if its obsolete |
| 18:54 |
Doc22 |
as long as it doesnt lag... |
| 18:55 |
Doc22 |
if its fast, i dont care :3 |
| 18:55 |
hmmmm |
well that's the reason why i didn't bother waiting |
| 18:55 |
hmmmm |
i just upgraded 2 months ago |
| 18:55 |
Doc22 |
MMMMMMM BACON |
| 18:55 |
hmmmm |
the projected performance increases of haswell are like 2-5% from ivy bridge |
| 18:55 |
Calinou |
my computer is almost 1 year old :P |
| 18:55 |
Calinou |
hmmmm: intel says 10% at least |
| 18:56 |
Calinou |
anyway the prices won't change |
| 18:56 |
hmmmm |
even if so, it sure wasn't worth waiting 8 months |
| 18:56 |
Calinou |
Doc22: what is your graphics card? :P |
| 18:56 |
hmmmm |
and the higher end desktop Haswell parts were reported to come around Q3 |
| 18:56 |
Doc22 |
its just some radeon.. ill look it upo |
| 18:56 |
Calinou |
k |
| 18:56 |
hmmmm |
the real cool part about Haswell is the idle power savings |
| 18:57 |
hmmmm |
so it's a no-brainer to wait for haswell if you're in the market for a new laptop |
| 18:57 |
hmmmm |
also the laptop variants are being released earlier |
| 18:58 |
Doc22 |
calinou: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1366279&SRCCODE=WEBGOOPA&cm_mmc_o=mH4CjC7BBTkwCjCV1-CjCE&gclid=CMDG7p-YhLUCFeGpPAodChIAtg |
| 18:59 |
Doc22 |
works pretty well |
| 18:59 |
Doc22 |
gets me about 60fps in minetest, constant 30fps in call of duty etc |
| 18:59 |
Doc22 |
justputting nums out there |
| 18:59 |
Doc22 |
i know you dont care about fps in cod |
| 18:59 |
Doc22 |
:P |
| 18:59 |
* Calinou |
finished 2nd in a trackmania race |
| 18:59 |
Calinou |
<Doc22> its just some radeon.. ill look it upo |
| 18:59 |
Calinou |
lol'd :-D |
| 19:00 |
Calinou |
Doc22: type "dxdiag" after pressing windows+R |
| 19:00 |
Doc22 |
lol thats like the category of every video card |
| 19:00 |
Doc22 |
kk |
| 19:00 |
Doc22 |
nauw what |
| 19:00 |
Doc22 |
a program came up |
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| 19:01 |
Doc22 |
directx diagnostics took |
| 19:01 |
Doc22 |
tool* |
| 19:01 |
Doc22 |
calinou: ^ |
| 19:02 |
Doc22 |
nauw what |
| 19:02 |
Doc22 |
hmm ill just start barfing information :-) |
| 19:02 |
Doc22 |
Name: amd radeon 6670 |
| 19:03 |
Doc22 |
manufacturer: advanced micro devices inc |
| 19:03 |
hmmmm |
>mfw i have an 8400gs |
| 19:03 |
Doc22 |
approx total memory: 726 mb |
| 19:03 |
Doc22 |
chip type: amd radeon graphics processor (0x6758) |
| 19:04 |
Doc22 |
dav type: internal dac (400mhz) |
| 19:04 |
Doc22 |
dac* |
| 19:04 |
Doc22 |
Current display mode: 1920x1080 (32 bit) 60 hz |
| 19:04 |
Doc22 |
monitor: |
| 19:05 |
Doc22 |
generic pnp monitor |
| 19:05 |
Doc22 |
(27") |
| 19:05 |
Doc22 |
:-) |
| 19:05 |
thexyz |
pastebin |
| 19:05 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 19:05 |
Doc22 |
((But its not pastable D:) |
| 19:05 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 19:06 |
* Doc22 |
wonders where calinou is... |
| 19:06 |
* Calinou |
finished 1st in another trackmania race |
| 19:06 |
Calinou |
8D |
| 19:06 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 19:07 |
Doc22 |
soo i got da information... |
| 19:07 |
Doc22 |
(up) |
| 19:07 |
Doc22 |
calinou what did you want me to do that for? :3 |
| 19:07 |
Doc22 |
<Calinou> Doc22: type "dxdiag" after pressing windows+R |
| 19:08 |
Calinou |
dinner now, bye |
| 19:08 |
Doc22 |
:/ |
| 19:08 |
Doc22 |
bye |
| 19:08 |
Calinou |
Doc22: you can generate a report and paste it on paste.ubuntu.com |
| 19:08 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 19:09 |
hmmmm |
hrm |
| 19:09 |
Doc22 |
hmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 19:09 |
hmmmm |
hey guys, how do i install mods? |
| 19:09 |
thexyz |
no idea |
| 19:09 |
Doc22 |
ok to install them.. |
| 19:09 |
Doc22 |
you go to the folder you downloaded |
| 19:09 |
hmmmm |
am i going nuts, do i have to do anything special aside from placing the directory into the mods/minetest thing |
| 19:09 |
Doc22 |
then go to /mods |
| 19:09 |
Doc22 |
then /minetest |
| 19:09 |
hmmmm |
nothing is being loaded for me |
| 19:10 |
Doc22 |
then paste the mod folder into there |
| 19:10 |
thexyz |
isn't mods/minetest deprecated? |
| 19:10 |
hmmmm |
i have no idea. |
| 19:10 |
Doc22 |
so paste it into minetestX_X/mods/minetest |
| 19:10 |
hmmmm |
this is honestly the first time i tried to use a mod because i need to test my new apis |
| 19:10 |
Doc22 |
where the exe is in minetestX_X/bin |
| 19:11 |
hmmmm |
well hold on a minute |
| 19:11 |
hmmmm |
does it matter if i have only minimal? |
| 19:11 |
thexyz |
hmmmm: place it to games/minimal/mods |
| 19:11 |
hmmmm |
does builtin/minecraft or whatever load the mods from the mod directory? |
| 19:11 |
hmmmm |
ah |
| 19:11 |
hmmmm |
yeah see i figured |
| 19:11 |
marktraceur |
Ha, minecraft. |
| 19:11 |
hmmmm |
mods mods mods |
| 19:11 |
hmmmm |
minectest rather |
| 19:11 |
hmmmm |
minetest |
| 19:13 |
hmmmm |
aha that worked, I guess i'm right in that mods from the mod/ directory aren't loaded without minetest_game |
| 19:13 |
hmmmm |
somebody should probably point that out. |
| 19:13 |
Calinou |
<hmmmm> hey guys, how do i install mods? |
| 19:14 |
Calinou |
O_o |
| 19:14 |
Calinou |
you don't know how to install mods? |
| 19:14 |
Calinou |
:P |
| 19:14 |
hmmmm |
that means "i thought i knew how, but apparently not, because it isn't working for me" |
| 19:14 |
Calinou |
ah |
| 19:16 |
Doc22 |
marktraceur is it you who was asking about artur99 |
| 19:17 |
marktraceur |
Uh, nope |
| 19:17 |
Doc22 |
hmm |
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rubenwardy |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=66120 |
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markveidemanis |
hi |
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markveidemanis |
OC: join #mtmt please |
| 19:55 |
markveidemanis |
and i think jojoa wil come |
| 19:59 |
markveidemanis |
OldCoder |
| 19:59 |
markveidemanis |
^ |
| 20:00 |
OldCoder |
markveidemanis, Hi! I was delayed but will proceed with updates shortly |
| 20:00 |
markveidemanis |
ok |
| 20:00 |
OldCoder |
And yes animals will be removed from your world! |
| 20:00 |
markveidemanis |
YAY |
| 20:00 |
markveidemanis |
At last...:D |
| 20:00 |
markveidemanis |
could you join #mtmt as well please |
| 20:00 |
markveidemanis |
and grant me +F in ##mtmarktwain |
| 20:01 |
markveidemanis |
and +o but -O |
| 20:01 |
markveidemanis |
also, remove the signs that make entities, i know they glitch |
| 20:01 |
markveidemanis |
default signs or another sign mod |
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markveidemanis |
OldCoder: to #mtmt |
| 20:03 |
markveidemanis |
so i dont have to *spam* here |
| 20:03 |
OldCoder |
markveidemanis, I will add that to my list |
| 20:03 |
OldCoder |
or try it |
| 20:04 |
OldCoder |
If you ask later maybe |
| 20:04 |
markveidemanis |
http://www.sendspace.com/file/lfcn0a Server mod |
| 20:04 |
OldCoder |
But can't you just PM links? |
| 20:04 |
OldCoder |
markveidemanis, I said to wait for that |
| 20:04 |
markveidemanis |
And remove home mod and kill mod |
| 20:04 |
markveidemanis |
ok |
| 20:04 |
OldCoder |
I will not remember ANY of this |
| 20:04 |
OldCoder |
except animals; so please hold it for a bit |
| 20:04 |
markveidemanis |
Why can you not add the server mod now? |
| 20:05 |
babyface1031 |
hi OldCoder are we going to get VanessaE more tree mod? |
| 20:05 |
markveidemanis |
ah yes, add some nodes to clean mod |
| 20:05 |
markveidemanis |
all conifers and jungle tree |
| 20:05 |
markveidemanis |
s |
| 20:05 |
babyface1031 |
or atleast the update |
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markveidemanis |
!ping ompldr.org |
| 20:09 |
markveidemanis |
http://i.imgur.com/4zoh59r.png |
| 20:09 |
markveidemanis |
that monstrosity... |
| 20:09 |
markveidemanis |
and the junglegrass mod |
| 20:09 |
markveidemanis |
to clean |
| 20:09 |
FreeFull |
Is that minecraft leaf textures? |
| 20:10 |
* mauvebic |
coffees |
| 20:11 |
mauvebic |
still got 6.2km of underground highway left to go lol |
| 20:13 |
markveidemanis |
OldCoder: the server mod is important; it will allow me to set the message of the day and the spawn area, this will be useful |
| 20:13 |
markveidemanis |
and i will change it every day with news |
| 20:14 |
markveidemanis |
and poison ivy ==>remove |
| 20:14 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
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OldCoder |
markveidemanis, do not discuss here |
| 20:15 |
OldCoder |
We will PM later if you are around |
| 20:15 |
markveidemanis |
then to #mtmt |
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jojoa1997 |
if i put textures in minetest/textures/all do they overide the default textures |
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markveidemanis |
Yop |
| 20:20 |
markveidemanis |
And go to #mtmt, jojoa |
| 20:20 |
jojoa1997 |
but why doent it work |
| 20:20 |
markveidemanis |
named correctly? |
| 20:20 |
jojoa1997 |
i am using a texture pack |
| 20:21 |
jojoa1997 |
do i put it in all or base |
| 20:21 |
markveidemanis |
all |
| 20:22 |
jojoa1997 |
but they are in there |
| 20:23 |
markveidemanis |
anyone associated with MarkTwain server, join #mtmt |
| 20:23 |
markveidemanis |
so that means mod requests, news, screenshots, *stuff* |
| 20:26 |
RealBadAngel |
Mark Twain is running any servers? Hes long dead, died like in 1910 i think... |
| 20:26 |
RealBadAngel |
or we do talk now bout some paranormal activity? |
| 20:27 |
RealBadAngel |
but never heard of ghosts runnin servers tho |
| 20:27 |
markveidemanis |
Ahem... |
| 20:27 |
markveidemanis |
Its my server and its a name |
| 20:31 |
markveidemanis |
ARRRGGGHHH |
| 20:31 |
markveidemanis |
teleported to 0,0,300010 |
| 20:31 |
markveidemanis |
fullrender made no difference |
| 20:31 |
markveidemanis |
what is the limit? |
| 20:32 |
markveidemanis |
...? |
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markveidemanis |
Hi Doc22 |
| 20:37 |
markveidemanis |
308927 |
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markveidemanis |
30927* |
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* Jordach |
has already wrote 3 theme songs for each type of youtube video |
| 20:40 |
* markveidemanis |
goes on google.com |
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VanessaE |
hi all. |
| 21:25 |
Doc22 |
oh hai markveidemanis |
| 21:25 |
Doc22 |
sorry for late response :P |
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* VanessaE |
pokes Doc22. just because. |
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* Doc22 |
pokes VanessaE. just because. |
| 21:29 |
VanessaE |
hehe |
| 21:29 |
Doc22 |
:') |
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Doc22 |
err :-)* |
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Doc22 |
lol |
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Doc22 |
XD |
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Kacey |
hello all |
| 21:38 |
Kacey |
!up 127.0.0.1 |
| 21:38 |
Minetest-tan |
127.0.0.1:30000 is up (0.103ms) |
| 21:38 |
Kacey |
haha |
| 21:38 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: Don't abuse the bots. |
| 21:38 |
Kacey |
i wanted to see if that worked.... |
| 21:47 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: That's no excuse. Test bots in private channels. |
| 21:47 |
Calinou |
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/temp/3.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/temp/4.jpg |
| 21:47 |
Calinou |
^ sauerbraten |
| 21:47 |
Kacey |
i dont have a Minetest-tan... |
| 21:47 |
Calinou |
:3 |
| 21:48 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 21:48 |
Doc22 |
wait so ! + up uses the bot? |
| 21:48 |
Doc22 |
to test minetest server |
| 21:49 |
marktraceur |
Yes. |
| 21:50 |
Kacey |
!up 67.190.14.129 |
| 21:50 |
Minetest-tan |
67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.308ms) |
| 21:50 |
Jordach |
hey VanessaE |
| 21:50 |
Kacey |
Doc22: join that server |
| 21:51 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, i uploaded a minetest video |
| 21:51 |
Doc22 |
okay |
| 21:51 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 21:51 |
VanessaE |
you did? |
| 21:51 |
* Doc22 |
nudges VanessaE while saying hi |
| 21:51 |
Jordach |
http://youtu.be/H_D4y69o7VE |
| 21:51 |
Jordach |
27 mins |
| 21:52 |
* VanessaE |
watches it, sans audio |
| 21:52 |
Doc22 |
kacey what mods are in? |
| 21:52 |
mauvebic |
gots 1.7km of highway left to build lol |
| 21:52 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, its just me playing and anotating |
| 21:52 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: How wide of a highway? |
| 21:52 |
Kacey |
mesecons, pipeworks, all sorts it is creative mode though |
| 21:52 |
mauvebic |
enough for two hovercars |
| 21:52 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: In metres? |
| 21:53 |
mauvebic |
its mostly underground with parts downtown above ground |
| 21:53 |
mauvebic |
driving surface is 7m |
| 21:53 |
marktraceur |
Not bad |
| 21:53 |
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| 21:53 |
mauvebic |
tunnel is round though |
| 21:53 |
mauvebic |
stretchy |
| 21:54 |
mauvebic |
it should connect both ends of my map which has 7K nodes between lol |
| 21:56 |
mauvebic |
i wanted to add hover sounds but it already takes forever to load server |
| 21:59 |
Kacey |
lagging... |
| 22:02 |
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| 22:02 |
Kacey |
Doc22 i must go so i am shutting the server down |
| 22:02 |
Kacey |
bye all |
| 22:03 |
Doc22 |
awwww |
| 22:03 |
meldrian |
^^ |
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| 22:17 |
bas080 |
Is anyone willing to make nodeboxes of crates, pots etc... The code is done. http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4550 |
| 22:21 |
kaeza |
hello everyone |
| 22:29 |
OldCoder |
NEWS My worlds are shutting down for backups and updates |
| 22:31 |
kaeza |
hi OldCoder |
| 22:31 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, Hi |
| 22:31 |
OldCoder |
I will list proposed changes... |
| 22:32 |
OldCoder |
# dogblocks # Dogzilla131 |
| 22:32 |
OldCoder |
# food # rubenwardy |
| 22:32 |
OldCoder |
# docfarming # Doc22 |
| 22:32 |
OldCoder |
# homedecor, moretrees, pipeworks, plantlife # VE |
| 22:32 |
OldCoder |
# animals dropped from mark twain world |
| 22:32 |
OldCoder |
Other suggestions are welcome |
| 22:32 |
sokomine |
did you restart the calinou world on port 30003, oldcoder? |
| 22:32 |
OldCoder |
sokomine, Read above please |
| 22:33 |
sapier1 |
oldcoder are there any bugreports by now? |
| 22:33 |
OldCoder |
Backups in progress to be followed by updates. sapier just one IIRC... |
| 22:33 |
OldCoder |
sapier, there is a report that unknown blocks are flying around. It must be an interesting sight :-) |
| 22:34 |
sokomine |
aah. ok. then it's no crash and nothing to worry about |
| 22:34 |
OldCoder |
Did node names change for birds? |
| 22:34 |
sapier |
hmm have you disabled some mobs? |
| 22:34 |
OldCoder |
sapier, I have not changed anything |
| 22:34 |
sokomine |
unkonwn blocks happen sometimes. perhaps animals whose names got changed |
| 22:34 |
OldCoder |
I am using what you gave me |
| 22:34 |
OldCoder |
Do not be concerned for now |
| 22:34 |
OldCoder |
Would anybody like to suggest more changes; add to preceding list? |
| 22:35 |
sapier |
changed names should be automaticaly updated to new ones ... at least if I didn't miss any |
| 22:35 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, mint |
| 22:35 |
OldCoder |
That looked complicated |
| 22:35 |
OldCoder |
Money has lots of files |
| 22:35 |
sokomine |
yes. the removal of the logfiles if you didn't do so already |
| 22:35 |
OldCoder |
What is mint? |
| 22:35 |
OldCoder |
sokomine, Let us seek consensus here and now |
| 22:36 |
OldCoder |
sokomine does not wish public logs. But others find them useful for anti griefing. What are people's thoughts on the matter? |
| 22:36 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4111 |
| 22:36 |
sapier |
I've fixed some problems again when are you going to update? |
| 22:37 |
OldCoder |
sapier, Right now! |
| 22:37 |
OldCoder |
sapier, Do I need to remake a patch? And which two animals needed fire? |
| 22:37 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, Short on time. What does that say? |
| 22:37 |
sokomine |
i do not agree with the logfiles of who did place/dig which block when beeing publicly visible. there is no way to reach consensus there. either you make it more hidden (developers, modders and players can have a look at it if they need it for development) |
| 22:37 |
sokomine |
..or i have to leave the server :-( |
| 22:37 |
OldCoder |
Would people like to respond politely to sokomine? |
| 22:37 |
OldCoder |
sokomine, We do not wish that |
| 22:37 |
OldCoder |
Would people like to respond politely to sokomine? |
| 22:37 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, adds coins as actual items and selling machines |
| 22:38 |
kaeza |
the locked_shop mod is buggy |
| 22:38 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, that sounds complicated. How widely tested is it? |
| 22:38 |
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| 22:38 |
sapier |
animal_creeper and dm need fire |
| 22:38 |
OldCoder |
sapier, and did I need to remake a patch? |
| 22:38 |
OldCoder |
I will diff now and see |
| 22:38 |
sapier |
I'll update your branch to current one moment please |
| 22:38 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, tested on Shaun's survival server and locally. Works well. |
| 22:38 |
* OldCoder |
goes to diff animals. Would people like to discuss sokomine point? |
| 22:39 |
OldCoder |
sapier, I will wait a minute then |
| 22:39 |
OldCoder |
Indicate when |
| 22:39 |
OldCoder |
Can others comment on mint? |
| 22:39 |
OldCoder |
How does it work out? |
| 22:39 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, what do you think of logs? |
| 22:40 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, you place a vending machine, set the price, and all the items you put in it's inventory are sold at that price |
| 22:40 |
OldCoder |
sokomine, issue is griefing and not development |
| 22:40 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, are there lots of files? The money mod is messy |
| 22:40 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, don't see a problem with the logs being public |
| 22:40 |
OldCoder |
sokomine, what is the objection? |
| 22:40 |
OldCoder |
marktraceur, VanessaE ^ ? thoughts |
| 22:41 |
sokomine |
griefing does require mods who can *do* something with the logfiles. i have no objection against moderators to have access to the logfiles |
| 22:41 |
OldCoder |
sokomine, comment further regarding the issues of concern |
| 22:41 |
sapier |
oldcoder https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack/archive/oldcoder_special_1.x.zip |
| 22:42 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, mint uses not many files. |
| 22:42 |
kaeza |
but I have no problems if you are against installing it |
| 22:43 |
VanessaE |
I have no opinion about the logs thing. |
| 22:43 |
sokomine |
the excerpt that is shown may be of limited help against griefers. maybe you can add an interface where people could enter coordinates (or a region) and see who last modified which blocks there. that would actually be more helpful and be less critical |
| 22:43 |
sapier |
anti-grief is planed for mobf 2.1 |
| 22:44 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, seen my video yet? |
| 22:44 |
VanessaE |
part of it |
| 22:44 |
VanessaE |
had to go do other stuff |
| 22:44 |
kaeza |
I don't get it. What does MOBF have to do with griefing? |
| 22:44 |
sokomine |
and yes, regarding griefing, i regulary call cactuz_pl on redcrabs server when i notice places where someone has griefed something. but that is diffrent from showing who did exactly what at which time to everyone |
| 22:45 |
VanessaE |
sorry to say but the video quality is terrible. it's all blurry, mpeg artifacts everywhere |
| 22:45 |
VanessaE |
use high-quality settings net time, let youtube downconvert it |
| 22:45 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: What's the question? |
| 22:45 |
marktraceur |
Oh |
| 22:46 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: It might be interesting, but I wouldn't enable it. Make it configurable at least. |
| 22:46 |
OldCoder |
marktraceur, the question is logs |
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| 22:46 |
OldCoder |
marktraceur, I called to you to comment on sokomine point |
| 22:46 |
OldCoder |
I am not sure of consensus |
| 22:46 |
sapier |
ppl stealing sheep for example |
| 22:47 |
kaeza |
ah |
| 22:47 |
OldCoder |
sapier, I will get that now then try to settle logs issue |
| 22:47 |
kaeza |
true |
| 22:47 |
sapier |
ok |
| 22:47 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, will comment on mint too |
| 22:48 |
sokomine |
yes, i've suggested to build something into the animals to prevent stealing (which might occour on some servers). yet that does not mean that i agree to all my activities beeing shown online and serchable via google |
| 22:48 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, another option would be to patch the money mod on the server. Users can take away items from the shop's inventory without buying. |
| 22:49 |
sapier |
mobf won't log anti grief it'll just prevent it |
| 22:50 |
OldCoder |
Hang on... adding animals again |
| 22:50 |
OldCoder |
k, animals updated... |
| 22:50 |
OldCoder |
sokomine, what is the primary problem with public logs? |
| 22:51 |
sokomine |
that they show who did what when -> violation of privacy |
| 22:52 |
sokomine |
yes, i know that this channel is logged as well. it's a public channel. ingame activity is something else |
| 22:53 |
OldCoder |
sokomine, hang on a minute while I check something |
| 22:53 |
sokomine |
ok |
| 22:53 |
kaeza |
sokomine, I see your point, though I don't really care about that. I care more about chat messages being logged. |
| 22:54 |
* OldCoder |
watches exchange with interest |
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| 22:54 |
OldCoder |
sokomine, debate john_minetest if you are willing |
| 22:55 |
sokomine |
the visibility of the logfiles could be limited to mods. oldcoder seems quite capable of handling a server |
| 22:55 |
sapier |
I'm with sokomine open logs are a privacy issue (but depends on what is logged) |
| 22:55 |
kaeza |
john_minetest, agreed. Some users do trust others and have no problems relaying personal info. Making that available to the general public is not a good idea. |
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| 22:57 |
OldCoder |
sokomine, I can handle a server but my life is changing... I will not have time to do much for a while. |
| 22:58 |
sokomine |
especially if there are only some players online those might expect that they can talk amongst themshelves. if something occours that needs intervention by a mod (griefing, technical problem, severe spamming/insults/...), the moderator can look at the logfile. it is the job of whoever appoints the moderator to make sure that that person knows how to handle things - that is, do the job, but gain no further advantage from it or publis |
| 22:58 |
OldCoder |
john_minetest, note: yes, chat can be sorted out |
| 22:58 |
OldCoder |
Would removing chat help? |
| 22:58 |
OldCoder |
sokomine, ^ ? |
| 22:59 |
* OldCoder |
proceeds to remove chat |
| 22:59 |
sokomine |
for me - no. time+name+what digged is too much for public viewing. but i may stop from visiting the servers now that i know. but i'd expect there to be a visible hint on the website that there are extensive publicly viewable logs so that people may decide weather they want to play under those conditions or not |
| 23:00 |
OldCoder |
sokomine, is Calinou World your favorite server? |
| 23:01 |
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| 23:04 |
sokomine |
i won't mind if everyone could see *ingame* who placed a block. that would even be helpful. or if all timestamps get removed |
| 23:04 |
sokomine |
time + name |
| 23:05 |
sokomine |
might not matter if you never build on a server or visit it for 5 minutes once |
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| 23:06 |
kaeza |
Is't the time logged in server time? |
| 23:06 |
OldCoder |
|
| 23:06 |
jojoa1997 |
is anyone using firearms on their server or know of a server that does |
| 23:06 |
OldCoder |
I propose a temporary compromise. Calinou World is now temporarily not logged. |
| 23:06 |
OldCoder |
That one world. |
| 23:06 |
jojoa1997 |
why is it not logged |
| 23:06 |
OldCoder |
To make sokomine feel comfortable |
| 23:07 |
jojoa1997 |
!up minetest.org 30010 |
| 23:07 |
Minetest-tan |
minetest.org:30010 seems to be down |
| 23:07 |
OldCoder |
We will revisit the matter |
| 23:07 |
OldCoder |
jojoa1997, I am updating |
| 23:07 |
jojoa1997 |
ohok |
| 23:07 |
OldCoder |
This leaves mint |
| 23:07 |
OldCoder |
Do people wish a mint in worlds? |
| 23:07 |
jojoa1997 |
so.....is anyone using firearms on their server or know of a server that does |
| 23:07 |
OldCoder |
Does it work and so on? |
| 23:07 |
jojoa1997 |
what do you mean mint |
| 23:07 |
OldCoder |
jojoa1997, a mod that kaeza proposes |
| 23:07 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, I wish others to test it |
| 23:08 |
OldCoder |
Then perhaps we will add it |
| 23:08 |
jojoa1997 |
kaeza forum link? |
| 23:08 |
OldCoder |
It does not appear to be well known |
| 23:08 |
jojoa1997 |
i think i might know it |
| 23:08 |
jojoa1997 |
but what about using the money mod |
| 23:08 |
jojoa1997 |
nvm about the monet mod |
| 23:08 |
kaeza |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4111 |
| 23:08 |
jojoa1997 |
*money |
| 23:09 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, mint is possible but I wish to hear from more people |
| 23:09 |
sokomine |
the mint-mod looks intresting. i havn't tested it. probably no point on the calinou world since no one else plays there :-( |
| 23:09 |
OldCoder |
Any other changes for now? |
| 23:09 |
kaeza |
jojoa1997, there are some bugs with the money mod |
| 23:09 |
OldCoder |
sokomine, traffic will grow I am sure |
| 23:09 |
OldCoder |
Any other changes for now anybody? |
| 23:09 |
sapier |
oldcoder do you have reports if "trader"-mob is used? |
| 23:09 |
* OldCoder |
prepares to rebuild and restart |
| 23:09 |
jojoa1997 |
i think this mod should be added |
| 23:09 |
jojoa1997 |
the mint one |
| 23:09 |
OldCoder |
sapier, How would it be used? |
| 23:10 |
jojoa1997 |
also kaeza's firearms |
| 23:10 |
OldCoder |
jojoa1997, It needs to be tested |
| 23:10 |
OldCoder |
No firearms |
| 23:10 |
OldCoder |
Projectiles are tricky |
| 23:10 |
jojoa1997 |
but i dont remember if i alreadyt asked |
| 23:10 |
OldCoder |
|
| 23:10 |
sapier |
its a trader ;-) you can exchange nodes for other ones when talking to him |
| 23:10 |
jojoa1997 |
:(] |
| 23:10 |
OldCoder |
sapier, nobody has mentioned it yet |
| 23:10 |
sapier |
funny |
| 23:10 |
jojoa1997 |
OC the mint would be used by... |
| 23:10 |
OldCoder |
jojoa1997, Be :) I am sure you will survive |
| 23:10 |
kaeza |
sapier, in octuteam there are a few shops in the middle of nowhere where mobs seem to spawn more frequently, it's useful |
| 23:10 |
jojoa1997 |
people give me coin and i give them items |
| 23:10 |
OldCoder |
Any other changes? |
| 23:10 |
OldCoder |
Going once |
| 23:10 |
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| 23:10 |
OldCoder |
Going twice |
| 23:11 |
sokomine |
sapier: on the calinou world it is |
| 23:11 |
Brianetta |
I can't make doors or stairs. Is that normal? |
| 23:11 |
jojoa1997 |
FIREARMS but no |
| 23:11 |
OldCoder |
Rebuilding |
| 23:11 |
sokomine |
there are traders there. if you want to look... |
| 23:11 |
kaeza |
Brianetta, no |
| 23:11 |
kaeza |
more info is welcome. |
| 23:11 |
sapier |
It's goods are still limited I was hoping for feedback what to add |
| 23:11 |
kaeza |
what recipe are you using? |
| 23:12 |
jojoa1997 |
so.....is anyone using firearms on their server or know of a server that does |
| 23:12 |
Brianetta |
I'm using Git master, and I'm runnign the dev mini thing |
| 23:12 |
sokomine |
sapier: oh, i have some ideas about that :) but i'd like to run it on the kingarthur server as well |
| 23:12 |
Brianetta |
I'm using the recipes here: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Crafting |
| 23:12 |
sokomine |
seems i'm getting a lot of timeouts with servers today :-( |
| 23:12 |
jojoa1997 |
sokamine: king arther adress and port |
| 23:12 |
kaeza |
hmm... strange |
| 23:13 |
kaeza |
Brianetta, you using the "minimal" game you say? |
| 23:13 |
Brianetta |
The only one that comes with the Git clone, yes |
| 23:13 |
kaeza |
hmm |
| 23:13 |
kaeza |
let me test |
| 23:14 |
sokomine |
80.152.199.113 port 30000 |
| 23:14 |
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| 23:14 |
kaeza |
Brianetta, confirmed |
| 23:15 |
kaeza |
you can't make door in minimal game |
| 23:15 |
jojoa1997 |
what about this that i saw in forums minetest.king-arthur.eu 30000 |
| 23:15 |
kaeza |
you ned the "minetest_game" game |
| 23:15 |
Brianetta |
I guess I should install the bigger one |
| 23:15 |
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jojoa1997 |
it says invalid password |
| 23:15 |
kaeza |
Brianetta, git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/ |
| 23:16 |
dangertank44 |
Hello |
| 23:16 |
jojoa1997 |
and i forgot it |
| 23:16 |
Brianetta |
ta |
| 23:16 |
kaeza |
hey tank |
| 23:16 |
dangertank44 |
How are you? |
| 23:16 |
kaeza |
fine and you? |
| 23:16 |
dangertank44 |
Good |
| 23:16 |
jojoa1997 |
sokamine you host that server? |
| 23:17 |
kaeza |
Brianetta, and move that into ~/.minetest/games/ |
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| 23:17 |
dangertank44 |
Any idea when the minetest.net 30004 server will be back up? |
| 23:17 |
kaeza |
you'll need to create a new world afterwards |
| 23:17 |
jojoa1997 |
minetest.org or minetest.net |
| 23:17 |
dangertank44 |
sorry .org |
| 23:17 |
kaeza |
tank: OC is updating things |
| 23:17 |
dangertank44 |
I know this much |
| 23:17 |
sokomine |
strange: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx t/o=0.865412): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=537 is what the server gets when my client somehow looses connection |
| 23:17 |
dangertank44 |
Any idea when He'll be done? |
| 23:18 |
kaeza |
dangertank44, he is getting some comments and reaching consensus about some mods. It'll be up soon |
| 23:19 |
dangertank44 |
Alright |
| 23:19 |
OldCoder |
NEWS |
| 23:19 |
OldCoder |
Worlds back up. Please test! Thanks! |
| 23:19 |
dangertank44 |
:D |
| 23:19 |
jojoa1997 |
firearms rule kaeza cant wait till a server gets them |
| 23:19 |
dangertank44 |
Hoorah |
| 23:19 |
kaeza |
jojoa1997, thanks :D |
| 23:20 |
OldCoder |
Look for new animals, food, updates to trees etc., and Doc Farming too! |
| 23:20 |
jojoa1997 |
kaeza please just make a file recipe.lua on the github |
| 23:20 |
OldCoder |
Rather, improved animals |
| 23:20 |
dangertank44 |
Oldcoder, the textures are still messed up |
| 23:20 |
jojoa1997 |
github client is acting weird for me |
| 23:20 |
kaeza |
jojoa1997, you can create it yourself :) |
| 23:20 |
dangertank44 |
It's loading dummy images |
| 23:20 |
Brianetta |
> ls ~/.minetest/games/minetest_game/ |
| 23:20 |
Brianetta |
game.conf mods/ README.txt |
| 23:20 |
Brianetta |
Is that the right layout? |
| 23:20 |
dangertank44 |
Again |
| 23:20 |
jojoa1997 |
18:20] <jojoa1997> github client is acting weird for me |
| 23:21 |
OldCoder |
dangertank44, "messed up" is a matter of debate. There is a fundamental issue and I can't fix it without help. |
| 23:21 |
dangertank44 |
Alright. |
| 23:21 |
OldCoder |
Willing to revisit that point once I have time; if people will help. Done for today though. |
| 23:21 |
jojoa1997 |
try redownloading the mod with the prob |
| 23:21 |
dangertank44 |
Alright |
| 23:22 |
kaeza |
Brianetta, yup |
| 23:22 |
Brianetta |
Didn't work at all. |
| 23:22 |
kaeza |
Brianetta, create a new world using the "minetest" game |
| 23:22 |
Brianetta |
Did work when I moved it into minetest/games |
| 23:22 |
Brianetta |
but not the user-specific directory |
| 23:23 |
Brianetta |
Ouch. I didn't fall as far this time (: |
| 23:27 |
kaeza |
Brianetta, worked? |
| 23:28 |
Brianetta |
It did (: |
| 23:28 |
Brianetta |
but I had to move it into my source tree |
| 23:28 |
sokomine |
ohhh! the sheep got nicer! |
| 23:28 |
Brianetta |
into that game/ |
| 23:29 |
kaeza |
Brianetta, maybe you are building a RUN_IN_PLACE version...? |
| 23:29 |
Brianetta |
kaeza: I believe I am, yes |
| 23:30 |
OldCoder |
23:29:59: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: |
| 23:30 |
OldCoder |
LuaError: error: ...es/octuteam_game/mods/animals/mobf_settings/init.lua:37: |
| 23:30 |
OldCoder |
attempt to call field 'settings_save' (a nil value) |
| 23:30 |
OldCoder |
23:29:59: ERROR[main]: stack traceback: |
| 23:30 |
OldCoder |
Pipeworks loaded! |
| 23:30 |
OldCoder |
sapier, ^ |
| 23:30 |
OldCoder |
I'll need to downgrade Animals |
| 23:31 |
sapier |
latest core version? |
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| 23:31 |
OldCoder |
sapier, that is what you gave me |
| 23:31 |
sapier |
minetest core |
| 23:31 |
OldCoder |
Oh... |
| 23:31 |
OldCoder |
Hang on |
| 23:31 |
sokomine |
but is mobf_settings really needed? a rm -rf on the subfolders of unwanted animals does the job as well |
| 23:31 |
sapier |
no isn't |
| 23:31 |
OldCoder |
sapier, it is January 15 |
| 23:32 |
sapier |
jan 15th is to oldm but delete mobg_settings you don't use it either |
| 23:32 |
* OldCoder |
is confused |
| 23:32 |
OldCoder |
Delete what where now? |
| 23:32 |
sapier |
delete the mobf_settings folder |
| 23:32 |
OldCoder |
And must I rebuild core? |
| 23:33 |
* OldCoder |
does not like to update so many things |
| 23:33 |
sapier |
you can decide what you want to do |
| 23:33 |
sapier |
if you delete mobf_settings you don't need to rebuild |
| 23:33 |
OldCoder |
Should I downgrade Animals? |
| 23:33 |
OldCoder |
Fine |
| 23:33 |
sapier |
no |
| 23:33 |
OldCoder |
Hold on |
| 23:33 |
sapier |
don't downgrade |
| 23:33 |
OldCoder |
Deleted |
| 23:33 |
OldCoder |
Let's see what happens |
| 23:33 |
sokomine |
no. just delete mobf_settings and the subfolders of the animals mod that contain unwanted animals |
| 23:35 |
kaeza |
anyone care to comment on this one? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4580 |
| 23:36 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, "Moretrees is not yet to a completely stable state" <== ??? |
| 23:37 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: it's still in development, and there are new features on the horizon for it and plantlife. |
| 23:37 |
VanessaE |
(see the newapi branch on both) |
| 23:37 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, <xavier108> Do you guys think *moreores* should be in the default game <== THIS |
| 23:37 |
VanessaE |
oh fuck |
| 23:37 |
kaeza |
:) |
| 23:38 |
* VanessaE |
deletes the post. |
| 23:38 |
VanessaE |
I read that as moretrees |
| 23:38 |
* VanessaE |
is an idiot :D |
| 23:38 |
kaeza |
cannot unsee |
| 23:38 |
kaeza |
:D |
| 23:38 |
VanessaE |
(O).(O) "What has been seen cannot be un-seen." |
| 23:39 |
VanessaE |
(imagine a picture of a wide-eyed cat here) |
| 23:39 |
VanessaE |
thanks for catching that |
| 23:40 |
* sokomine |
digs the cat and sells it later on to nekogloop :-) |
| 23:40 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 23:40 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, hehe should've quoted that comment for posterity |
| 23:40 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 23:41 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 23:42 |
* Doc22 |
wonders when 30004 will be back up |
| 23:42 |
* Doc22 |
takes cat from sokomine and spoils plans of sale to nekogloop |
| 23:42 |
kaeza |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/446 <== \o/ |
| 23:43 |
Doc22 |
ohh nice |
| 23:43 |
* sokomine |
reports doc22' grief to the local cat protection organization :-) |
| 23:44 |
* Doc22 |
runs |
| 23:44 |
Doc22 |
oh crap |
| 23:44 |
* Doc22 |
hides behind cow |
| 23:44 |
* sokomine |
stares into the eyes of the first cow she comes accross |
| 23:44 |
* Doc22 |
runs from pooping cow |
| 23:45 |
* Doc22 |
hides behind sheep |
| 23:45 |
* Doc22 |
runs from male sheep |
| 23:45 |
Doc22 |
ram* i guess |
| 23:45 |
* kaeza |
hands Doc22 an ostrich and a saddle ^_^ |
| 23:45 |
* Doc22 |
killz chicken |
| 23:45 |
* Doc22 |
thanks kaeza |
| 23:46 |
* Doc22 |
runs away on ostrich |
| 23:46 |
* Doc22 |
finds computer |
| 23:46 |
* Doc22 |
plays minetest |
| 23:46 |
sokomine |
sheep are still one-gender |
| 23:46 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 23:47 |
* sokomine |
catches up with doc22 |
| 23:47 |
* sokomine |
looks at the screen |
| 23:47 |
sokomine |
cows and chicken come in two versions :-) |
| 23:47 |
* Doc22 |
calls times as sokomine is about to put cuffs on |
| 23:47 |
* Doc22 |
runs during times |
| 23:49 |
Brianetta |
I seem to have stopped being able to harvest stuff |
| 23:49 |
* Brianetta |
tried quitting and coming back |
| 23:50 |
Brianetta |
Now it's just eating my CPU "Shutting down stuff..." |
| 23:53 |
kaeza |
are you using plain vanilla game? or do you have some extra mods installed? |
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| 23:53 |
AshleyWaffle |
Hi :D |
| 23:53 |
sokomine |
happened to me sometimes as well. that was when new areas where generated with lots of rather complex mods installed. sometimes had to be killed by hand |
| 23:54 |
VanessaE |
that was when new areas where generated with lots of rather complex mods installed <--- like moretrees? :) |
| 23:54 |
sokomine |
er...yes :-) |
| 23:54 |
Brianetta |
What do you do when there's only one tree anywhere, and you've already used it? |
| 23:55 |
VanessaE |
Brianetta: you hunt around for another, get some saplings, and replant :-) |
| 23:55 |
Brianetta |
Hmm. I'm not used to this desert stuff. |
| 23:55 |
sokomine |
but it wasn't only moretrees. i was trying the full set of animals as well (those hostile things) and some other mods that change the world as well (technic, though no mesecons, darkage, plantlife, moreores, ....) |
| 23:55 |
Brianetta |
I'm not actually used to mine* games |
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| 23:56 |
Doc22 |
ok im back........ |
| 23:56 |
sokomine |
the deserts arn't that large. you can move faster after you pressed j once and after that walk with w+e pressed simultaneiously |
| 23:56 |
Doc22 |
hey babyface |
| 23:56 |
sokomine |
ah. do you play in singleplayer or on a server? |
| 23:57 |
babyface1031 |
hi Doc22 |
| 23:57 |
Doc22 |
I think that if the terrain generation was changed a bit (space coordinates of perlin noise out more) that it would be better |
| 23:57 |
Doc22 |
and hi babyface :-) |
| 23:57 |
Doc22 |
I mean for more gradual terrain, more building spots, etc. |
| 23:58 |
Doc22 |
and it would be easier to navigate |
| 23:58 |
Doc22 |
also having some extreme hills |
