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00:51 NekoGloop meow
00:52 marktraceur NekoGloop: Whattup?
00:52 NekoGloop nothing.
00:53 * VanessaE places a kitten on NekoGloop's head.
00:53 NekoGloop I just accidentally my RPG maker, but nothing relavent to this channel.
00:54 kaeza hey Neko
00:54 kaeza YOU WHAT??
00:54 kaeza oh :(
00:54 NekoGloop wut
00:56 NekoGloop kaeza: wut?
00:56 marktraceur Ha, RPG maker.
00:57 NekoGloop Some very good games are made in RPG maker.
00:57 NekoGloop And not just RPG's, either. There are platformers, beat 'em ups, action-rpgs, etc...
00:58 kaeza NekoGloop have you played "The Bad Guy"?
00:58 NekoGloop nope.
00:58 kaeza it's a spoof of all the mainstream RPGs done in RPGM
00:59 NekoGloop heh.
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01:00 Kacey hi
01:01 kaeza searching google it seems it has been lost in the pages of history :(
01:01 Kacey bbl
01:01 kaeza I still have a compy somewhere on my HDD backups
01:02 kaeza copy*
01:02 NekoGloop what RPG maker version is it
01:02 kaeza 9X
01:02 kaeza err... "H
01:02 kaeza 2K*
01:02 NekoGloop eh?
01:02 NekoGloop ah.
01:03 kaeza RPGM2K
01:03 NekoGloop most people would say RM2k
01:03 kaeza yeah
01:03 NekoGloop and RM2k3 for RPG Maker 2003.
01:04 NekoGloop what website was it on? rpgmaker.net?
01:04 kaeza I wish I still had a copy of my *cough*h4x3d*cough* RM2K
01:04 NekoGloop or a different one?
01:04 kaeza hellsoft.net
01:04 NekoGloop Don Miguel 4ever. ;-)
01:04 kaeza yup :)
01:05 NekoGloop it's still impossibly easy to find.
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01:07 NekoGloop kaeza: looks like that website doesnt have an english version.
01:08 NekoGloop which, I'm assuming, means that an english version wasn't made.
01:08 NekoGloop sitting through an RPG that is continually babbling in a language you don't know is boring and un-fun.
01:09 kaeza I used to have a Spanish version
01:09 kaeza which may be easier than jap for you
01:09 NekoGloop I don't know spanish.
01:09 NekoGloop I know more japanese than spanish. Which I only know a single japanese symbol.
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01:10 kaeza heh
01:11 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sEfeTmj7dw
01:11 NekoGloop pfft
01:11 NekoGloop I can't be totally random today it seems
01:11 NekoGloop background off-vocal for that song is from Ib, an RM2k game.
01:12 NekoGloop I'm accidentally on-topic. WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO.
01:12 kaeza http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWB4y6aaASk
01:13 NekoGloop >spanish
01:13 kaeza translate.google.com :)
01:13 NekoGloop I ain't translating every single line of dialogue.
01:14 NekoGloop and what can be translated easily is done automatically. ;-)
01:14 NekoGloop chrome ftw.
01:14 kaeza o/
01:14 kaeza HELL YEAH
01:14 NekoGloop /\o/\
01:15 NekoGloop If you can make anything out of that, you're welcome to share.
01:15 NekoGloop also: Ib best puzzle-rpg ever.
01:16 kaeza YAY! RM2K works under Wine!!
01:16 NekoGloop 'course it does.
01:16 NekoGloop it's not really resource-intensive.
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01:16 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Muadtralk's head
01:16 kaeza I expected it to bitch like it did with Diablo
01:17 * Muadtralk watches as his cat gets jealous and attack the new threat
01:17 NekoGloop ouch.
01:22 kaeza LOL "GO Hepathic Rat!" -- Ash sending Pikachu to battle
01:30 NekoGloop dafuq youtube
01:30 NekoGloop I have it on 240p and it's STILL NOT DOWNLOADING FAST ENOUGH
01:34 VanessaE bbl
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01:39 Kacey hi
01:40 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129
01:40 Minetest-tan 67.190.14.129:30000 seems to be down
01:40 Kacey hmm?
01:40 Kacey i bet...
01:41 Kacey brb
01:44 NekoGloop eh? there's a bot now?
01:54 Dogzilla131 Can you tame a wild wolf in MOB framework?
01:56 NekoGloop why, nikon?
01:56 Nikondork there is a user on #minecraft that hasnt discovered alt + A
01:56 NekoGloop Neither have i, apparently. What does it do?
01:57 Nikondork sets you as away
01:57 kaeza WOW
01:57 Nikondork they keep changing their nick to whatever the activity they are doing to set away
02:00 kaeza I only use a different nick when connecting from elsewhere, like from the IRC plugin from my IDE
02:09 NekoGloop meow
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02:12 bas080 Pls topic move http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=60593#p60593 to mod releases <<<FireNode
02:12 Exio Nikondork: that is per client :P
02:13 NekoGloop bas080: Maybe if you made it so that your version numbers EVER CHANGE.
02:13 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129
02:13 Minetest-tan 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.313ms)
02:13 bas080 hehehe, and should i also keep a change log?
02:13 NekoGloop bas080: not as neccessarry as a version number update once every century, but a good idea as well.
02:15 bas080 NekoGloop, really like the refined glooptest. a handsaw :)
02:15 Kacey !up menche.servegame.com:30000
02:15 Minetest-tan Kacey: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
02:15 Minetest-tan menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (0.640ms)
02:15 Kacey !up menche.servegame.com 30001
02:15 Minetest-tan menche.servegame.com:30001 seems to be down
02:16 NekoGloop bas080: in the default game, that's good for leaves and the like.
02:16 Kacey alright
02:16 Kacey Dogzilla131: are you there?
02:16 bas080 I made kalite ore emit light
02:17 NekoGloop kaeza: However much I hate to, I'm putting off the tables. Too much confusing-as-hell lua to make them useful. They will currently be a fancy-dancy decoration.
02:17 NekoGloop bas080: Nuuuuu! Talinite has lost use!
02:17 NekoGloop And caves are no longer dark!
02:17 NekoGloop ;-)
02:17 NekoGloop pfft.
02:18 Exio i have a luminium "private" mod  /because it is just a ore generation + defining two blocks + 1 item/ what adds an ore and makes it emits a dark light so you can see it in caves
02:18 Kacey VanessaE: are you around?
02:19 NekoGloop Exio: Talinite does that.
02:19 Exio is it pink?
02:19 NekoGloop However it generates incredibly low
02:19 NekoGloop and is sky blue
02:19 NekoGloop and its block is brighter than a torch (by a smidge_
02:19 NekoGloop s/_/)
02:19 bas080 NekoGloop, i haven't seen Talinite yet... so both can make light nodes only talinite alreay emits light
02:19 Exio http://cadoth.net/~exio4/mt/luminium.png
02:20 Exio same with my mod, i didn't know there was one
02:20 NekoGloop Because it generates at something like 200 below or something
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02:20 bas080 Nice name for a light ore
02:21 NekoGloop bas080: As with the rest of the gloopores names, I pulled it out of my ass.
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02:21 NekoGloop kaeza: tables will lack the functionality that I want them to have in the future. they will be in the next update though.
02:21 bas080 Your ass is quite creative
02:22 bas080 and full of
02:22 bas080 ideas
02:22 NekoGloop If i was a little less sleep-deprived that wouldn't sound strange...
02:22 kaeza NekoGloop, k
02:22 NekoGloop btw: 234 posts on the forums
02:24 Dogzilla131 Kacey:yes
02:24 NekoGloop bas080: but making kalite ore glow defeats the "cool" factor of finding talinite
02:24 Kacey can you get on my server?
02:24 bas080 NekoGloop, i agree. Changed it back
02:24 NekoGloop and also makes talinite a bit harder to find
02:24 Dogzilla131 Ip port
02:24 kizeren Speaking of tainite, can you not make talinite glowblocks anymore?
02:25 NekoGloop kizeren: should be 3x3 of talinite ingots
02:25 kizeren Ooo.....I think i was trying 2x2  which I thought was the original gloopores mod had.
02:25 NekoGloop nope.
02:25 Kacey 67.190.14.129 30000
02:25 NekoGloop the metal-storage-block is the glow-block.
02:26 kizeren Okay then I need to drink stronger caffine to remember all these crafting things then :P
02:26 NekoGloop interesting fact: caffeeine causes dehydration.
02:26 Kacey bas080: i am using your firestone mod
02:26 kaeza NekoGloop, yout talinite almost game me a heart attack the other day :/ https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_1103833664.jpg
02:26 kaeza gave*
02:27 NekoGloop kaeza: but you found some in normal gameplay it looks! And have my gems version. Which will be in glooptest. Eventually.
02:27 Kacey it should have a smaller range for setting things on fire...
02:27 kaeza yeah, it spawns deep below
02:28 NekoGloop Kacey: that's done through fire mod, I don't think he can change that...
02:28 Dogzilla131 Kacey:crashed :/
02:28 Kacey haha
02:28 NekoGloop kaeza: Trying to get <insert rarest gem here>?
02:28 kaeza as you can see from the screen, this one was at -611
02:28 NekoGloop I dont remember what the rarest is :)
02:29 kizeren NekoGloop, Just tried 3x3 and no go.....
02:29 kaeza hmm... found ruby. emerald, sapphire, and another one I can't recall
02:29 NekoGloop kizeren: ah?
02:29 NekoGloop Try making an alatro or arol block.
02:29 kizeren on the talinite block
02:29 kizeren Ok
02:29 NekoGloop Or, better yet, make sure your glooptest version is up to date.
02:29 kizeren 3x3 is one in each square.
02:30 kizeren And no go on Arol blocks either.
02:30 kizeren Um....it is one of OldCoders worlds.
02:30 NekoGloop IIRC I royally screwed up the recipes on everything before 0.0.3
02:30 NekoGloop Yeah it's probably outdated.
02:30 NekoGloop kizeren: because stupid me forgot arol doesn't make blocks
02:31 NekoGloop It isn't *supposed* to make a block for arol ;-)
02:31 kizeren Glooptest is  Jan 09 04:23 2013 on minetest.org 30004
02:31 NekoGloop Odd.
02:31 kizeren Just tried Alatro
02:31 NekoGloop Can you try making an alatro block?
02:31 kizeren no go.
02:31 NekoGloop Hm...
02:32 NekoGloop File it as a github issue or I'll forget.
02:32 NekoGloop kaeza: Topaz is the rarest one
02:32 kizeren Which file you put recipes in?
02:33 NekoGloop kizeren: api.lua in ore_module. github issues are universal for the project though.
02:33 kaeza NekoGloop, the world had to be restored from backup due to Octu calling /clearobjects :(
02:34 kaeza I need to dig again :(
02:34 NekoGloop what is the problem with /clearobjects?
02:34 kaeza locked up the server
02:34 NekoGloop Has it counted the player as an object now? ;-)
02:34 kaeza prolly :P
02:35 kizeren NekoGloop, let me try another one of his worlds real fast.
02:35 kaeza nah, there were so many loose leaves from conifers that the server prolly went kaboom
02:35 bas080 Kacey, yey, what are you using it for?
02:35 bas080 firestone that is
02:35 Kacey fireplaces
02:36 NekoGloop kaeza: /clearobjects would only remove entities, not nodes...
02:36 Kacey it did a good job of setting the fences on fire
02:36 NekoGloop So, has anyone figured out the use of Kalite torches yet?
02:37 Dogzilla131 Kacey: You almost gave me a heart attack, with the fire noise
02:37 Kacey i am burning down the fences
02:37 NekoGloop punch the fire.
02:37 NekoGloop bas080: Wanna take a jab at why kalite torches are so useful?
02:38 Kacey haha the forest is still on fire
02:38 NekoGloop Anyone?
02:38 NekoGloop Anyone wanna guess why kalite torches are useful?
02:38 Kacey nope
02:39 NekoGloop Well it's because they don't catch fire.
02:39 kizeren Did not know torches can catch fire...
02:39 NekoGloop ironic, isn't it?
02:40 kizeren report filed on github
02:41 bas080 NekoGloop, why are they useful. You still need wood if you want to turn it into light.
02:41 bas080 So just as useful as coal
02:41 NekoGloop kizeren: It helps if I use my own damn API properly.
02:41 bas080 owww. that's why
02:41 NekoGloop bas080: because it doesn't light on fire ;)
02:41 kizeren Hmm...so there is a bug?
02:42 bas080 feature
02:42 NekoGloop kizeren: nope. just my idiocy.
02:42 NekoGloop bas080: a "feature" where you can't craft storage-blocks?
02:42 kizeren :)
02:43 NekoGloop Pushing fix and table_module to github now.
02:48 NekoGloop kaeza: Topaz and Talinite generate both at -250.
02:48 NekoGloop Anyone who cares: https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/commit/9f2974d210eaaf46ebf2a97685c50cdac2845382 Ignore the first file.
02:53 bas080 NekoGloop, I ignored the first file and noticed that you added a table to a mod that is mainly an ore and tools mod... nice!
02:54 kizeren yea nice looking table.
02:54 NekoGloop It's supposed to be a MCtechnic-minor-feature-adder thing.
02:54 NekoGloop Obviously with my own twists.
02:55 NekoGloop YOUTUBE. Y U NO DOWNLOAD 320p VIDEOS WITHIN THIS CENTURY.
02:55 NekoGloop 360p even
03:01 NekoGloop bas080: If you were wondering, the ore_module has an API for pretty much everything you need for making a fully-working ore. If you can use it properly, unlike me apparently.
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03:11 Doc22 hey
03:13 mrtux http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/minetest
03:14 mrtux someone ported minetest to slitaz gnu/linux
03:14 Doc22 gtg bai
03:14 mrtux cya
03:14 Doc22 cya
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03:47 bas080 Question, can one abm air?
03:51 bas080 Yes,
03:51 bas080 one can
04:03 sokomine won't that cause too many abms firing?
04:04 bas080 Abms don't hurt cpu that bad?
04:05 bas080 your right
04:06 sokomine i don't know
04:07 sokomine but there is a lot of air. it does seem to work with grass nodes
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04:14 kaeza wb Doc22
04:14 Doc22 thx
04:14 Doc22 and ha
04:14 Doc22 hi
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05:42 kaeza some art at octuteam https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_1792266256.jpg
05:42 kaeza by yours truly
05:45 OldCoder hi!
05:45 OldCoder kaeza, that is great
05:46 OldCoder could you post coords if you have them? not important
05:46 kaeza gimme a sec
05:47 kaeza -196, 24, 124
05:47 kaeza OldCoder, ^
05:48 OldCoder TY!!
05:48 OldCoder kaeza, ^
05:48 kaeza yvw
06:26 hmmmm hey guys, what are some Lua APIs that deal with arrays?
06:29 kaeza in what sense?
06:30 kaeza what do you need to do exactly?
06:30 kaeza hmmmm ^
06:30 hmmmm do you know of any APIs that return an array of something?
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06:31 kaeza you mean MT Lua API?
06:31 hmmmm yes
06:32 kaeza minetest.get_connected_players(), minetest.find_objects_in_radius()
06:32 hmmmm ahh great thanks
06:32 kaeza why?
06:32 kaeza np
06:32 hmmmm just curious
06:32 kaeza k :)
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06:48 LunaVorax Hi
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13:32 jojoa1997 hi
13:33 kaeza hey
13:33 jojoa1997 anyone know of a hunger games server/map
13:33 kaeza nope
13:33 kaeza I'm making a firearms mod
13:34 jojoa1997 i here lots of promises but i havent seen one
13:34 kaeza this may come in handy
13:34 kaeza currently, theres a .45 pistol, a shotgun, and a M4 carbine
13:34 jojoa1997 nice
13:34 kaeza oh and a grenade launcher
13:35 jojoa1997 kaeza maybe you should make a hunger games server. i would help build a huinger games arena\
13:35 jojoa1997 one mod anyone should add to hunger games is the adventures mod
13:35 kaeza my connection isn't fast enuff
13:35 jojoa1997 ah man
13:36 kaeza but I could help you if you want to make one
13:36 jojoa1997 i would make a map but i have too many tre/ore generator mods
13:36 jojoa1997 a server?
13:36 kaeza a map
13:36 jojoa1997 cool
13:36 jojoa1997 could you make a server and send me the adress
13:37 jojoa1997 just so we both could work on it together
13:38 jojoa1997 well? what do you say
13:41 kaeza told ya, my connection is a slow one
13:41 kaeza not enuff to host a server
13:41 kaeza gimme a sec
13:41 jojoa1997 oh i thought you didnt want to cause of lag. ok
13:41 kaeza would you care to test something for me?
13:41 jojoa1997 sure
13:44 kaeza gimme a sec
13:45 kaeza 186.122.187.79 port 30000
13:45 jojoa1997 ok one sec i am on marktwain server testing out mobf
13:45 kaeza ok
13:45 kaeza tyt
13:49 jojoa1997 the ostrich is wiocked
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13:50 jojoa1997 ok what is that adress to
13:50 kaeza gimme a sec, i'm doing a /clearobjects
13:50 john_minetest A firearms mod would make minetest like ace of spades.
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13:50 * jojoa1997 took a klunk earlier
13:50 jojoa1997 sorry i had to
13:50 kaeza john_minetest ...should I take that comment as good or bad?
13:50 john_minetest kaeza: as good :)
13:51 kaeza thanks :)
13:51 kaeza jojoa1997, 186.122.187.79 port 30000 <== john_minetest, if you want to try, join
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13:52 jojoa1997 john_minetest could this be a hunger games server?
13:52 klunk jojoa1997: I don't understand ...
13:53 jojoa1997 i read a book and they used the word klunk as poo. every time you join i imagine....
13:53 kaeza john_minetest, jojoa1997: this is a temporary server for testing the firearms. Also, they don't require ammunition for now (to test them easily). I will add that before I upload it
13:53 klunk oh yeah, great
13:53 jojoa1997 kaeza ok
13:54 jojoa1997 klunk read the maze runner series
13:54 klunk yeah, thanks for information.
13:54 jojoa1997 it is a great series though
14:00 kaeza john_minetest, could you test the guns?
14:01 john_minetest kaeza: no, it lagged too much. I didn't get one.
14:01 kaeza oh :(
14:01 jojoa1997 i think he means on a private server
14:02 jojoa1997 !up diamondmining.no-ip.org
14:02 Minetest-tan diamondmining.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down
14:02 * jojoa1997 viruses +Minetest-tan
14:04 RealBadAngel hello minetest
14:04 jojoa1997 hi
14:04 kaeza hey RBA
14:04 jojoa1997 RealBadAngel how is hometree for pandora coming along
14:05 RealBadAngel be patient, we are not ready with basic trees mod
14:05 jojoa1997 ok
14:05 RealBadAngel but are very close to finish it
14:05 jojoa1997 also why does your tree spawner mod spawn on;ly 2 trees
14:05 RealBadAngel btw, there was update to treegen engine yesterday
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14:06 jojoa1997 did anyone make a build
14:06 markveidemanis Hi!
14:06 kaeza can somebody explain what this post means? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4556
14:06 markveidemanis Where can i talk about 3D engines and platforms?
14:06 RealBadAngel jojoa1997, to get all the trees aviable use plantlib/moretrees mod
14:06 kaeza the english is too broken :P
14:07 jojoa1997 there is an ostrich rider on the loose in marktwain server
14:07 RealBadAngel theres a contest, but author forgot to mention bout what
14:08 kaeza lol guessed so
14:08 RealBadAngel maybe the goal is to guess what the contest is about?
14:09 kaeza hehe
14:09 markveidemanis Yop
14:09 kaeza BTW does MT support WAV sound files?
14:09 RealBadAngel ogg
14:10 kaeza hmm... gonna have to install audacity and convert them...
14:10 RealBadAngel convert them to ogg, mono if you would like to get positional playin
14:10 * jojoa1997 sighs
14:10 klunk mono !
14:10 * jojoa1997 sighs heavily
14:10 kaeza jojoa1997, ?
14:10 markveidemanis Moooo
14:10 jojoa1997 i am sick
14:10 RealBadAngel http://audio.online-convert.com/convert-to-ogg
14:10 jojoa1997 bronchitis
14:11 kaeza RealBadAngel, thanks!
14:11 RealBadAngel i used that to convert some files to ogg easily
14:11 jojoa1997 and i have to miss 2 days of school while in the IB program(a step above AP)
14:11 markveidemanis Lucky
14:11 jojoa1997 why i am sick
14:12 kaeza bitrate does not matter right?
14:12 jojoa1997 and have to make up at least 6 hours of work
14:12 kaeza or for that matter, frequency
14:12 RealBadAngel for short shound i guess so
14:12 RealBadAngel for music better to have higher bitrate
14:12 markveidemanis jojoa
14:13 markveidemanis make a program
14:13 kaeza these are short sounds
14:13 kaeza some under half a sec
14:13 RealBadAngel i guess gun shots
14:13 kaeza yup
14:13 RealBadAngel so propably low bitrate will be good for them
14:14 RealBadAngel btw there will be a shotgun?
14:14 kaeza yup
14:14 kaeza with buckshot
14:14 RealBadAngel and "its time to chew bubble gum and kick some ass" ?
14:15 kaeza yeah baby!
14:15 markveidemanis Yop
14:15 kaeza I still need to make the grenade explode
14:15 kaeza (I have a "Blooper" ^_^)
14:15 RealBadAngel "your face, your ass... whats the difference"
14:15 john_minetest kaeza: Post name: "The Maybe First Contest of Minetest" ... mesecon challenge, several build challenges on several servers (e.g. VanessaE's server). Maybe "Maybe the 1000st contest in minetest" would fit better there xD
14:15 jojoa1997 i just got an idea
14:16 jojoa1997 could some one make a portal where you place one end down
14:16 jojoa1997 go exploring
14:16 jojoa1997 and the place the other side down
14:16 kaeza a slight modification to the teleporter should do it
14:16 jojoa1997 you could see through the portal cause you already generated the other terrain
14:16 kaeza nope
14:17 jojoa1997 why not
14:17 kaeza (not yet at least)
14:17 RealBadAngel we need to create world anchors in the first place
14:17 RealBadAngel somethin that will keep an area around it loaded
14:17 kaeza jojoa1997, you should stop looking at Likwid's ideas :D
14:18 jojoa1997 why?
14:18 RealBadAngel somethin that will prevent server from unloading areas where are no players
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14:18 kaeza well... you could say the guy has no ideas of the current possibilities of the engine, or for that matter, it's limitations
14:19 RealBadAngel maybe fake player instance
14:19 jojoa1997 make an entity that needs areas loaded
14:20 kaeza RealBadAngel, NekoGloop was talking about something like that to make the furnaces/etc keep active when the player is not around. Is it possible?
14:23 jojoa1997 can anyone tell me why tnt was removed from vanilla
14:24 jojoa1997 kaeza how do i set the seed of a map
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14:25 kaeza jojoa1997, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65766#p65766
14:26 kaeza and it's not "world.mt"
14:26 jojoa1997 did you see my reply
14:26 kaeza it was a typo
14:26 kaeza the file is "map_meta.txt"
14:26 jojoa1997 ok i made a world and havent gone in
14:26 jojoa1997 there is only one file right?
14:26 kaeza edit the "seed=" line in "map_meta.txt"
14:27 jojoa1997 but it never made a map meta
14:27 kaeza hm?
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14:28 kaeza then copy the file from other world and edit it
14:28 Kacey what are you guys talking about
14:28 jojoa1997 but that has stuff like tree frequencies
14:29 jojoa1997 i want a world made from a seed
14:29 jojoa1997 not one like another world that has the same stuff
14:30 jojoa1997 one sec
14:31 RealBadAngel kaeza, to keep stuff active area has to be loaded
14:31 jojoa1997 here is the info in the file http://pastebin.com/CLzwzh8F
14:32 jojoa1997 can i erase all and change the seed to 0
14:33 Kacey seed = 0
14:34 Kacey makes a cool world
14:35 Kacey just tried it
14:36 jojoa1997 so i can just be spawn = 0 in it
14:37 kaeza RealBadAngel, M4 Carbine: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_1824806308.jpg
14:37 kaeza Benelli M3 (shooting): https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_1824812597.jpg
14:38 kaeza the textures are low quality
14:38 kaeza (64px)
14:40 * Kacey feels lucky enough to use VanessaE's 120x textures
14:41 kaeza Every gun has their own caliber (so you can't use .45 rounds on the 5.56 carbine), spread (deviation from shooting direction), and range (for example, the shotgun has minimal range).
14:42 RealBadAngel my neighbour fallen down from the roof and is dead
14:42 RealBadAngel was tryin to remove snow
14:43 RealBadAngel 63 yrs old
14:43 Kacey 512x pack...
14:43 kaeza oh... sorry to hear that...
14:44 Kacey ya sorry to hear
14:44 jojoa1997 me too
14:45 jojoa1997 RBA could you make the worldedit gui compatable with unified_inventory
14:45 RealBadAngel not now
14:45 RealBadAngel i got too much another work now
14:45 jojoa1997 of course i mean later
14:47 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129
14:47 Minetest-tan 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.307ms)
14:47 Kacey alright
14:49 Kacey now i have high def textures
14:50 jojoa1997 what is that server to
14:50 Kacey my little one :P
14:50 jojoa1997 afk
14:51 Kacey wow... they r going to kill my computer i do think...
14:53 Kacey c'mon little computer... you can do it
14:55 Kacey ooh boy
14:55 Kacey i must go
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14:58 john_minetest Just compiled binutils, bash and coreutils. But with wrong --prefix=...
14:58 Mustek marktraceur, are you there?
14:59 thexyz https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/aaee2786a76dedb52b154223dac813ac02099a91
15:04 kaeza okay, this guy is just posting nonsense: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65793#p65793
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15:31 kaeza is there a helper in the MT API to get the distance between 3D points?
15:31 kaeza 2 3D points*
15:32 kaeza I have already done a routine to calc it, but was just asking in case... well... I reinvented the wheel :P
15:32 jojoa1997 !up diamondmining.no-ip.org:30000'
15:32 Minetest-tan jojoa1997: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
15:32 Minetest-tan jojoa1997: Invalid Port: 30000'
15:32 marktraceur jojoa1997: What's up with your little foray to #minecraft?
15:33 jojoa1997 ?
15:33 jojoa1997 !up diamondmining.no-ip.org:30000
15:33 Minetest-tan jojoa1997: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
15:33 Minetest-tan diamondmining.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down
15:33 marktraceur jojoa1997: http://i.imgur.com/ujOFcUv.png
15:33 jojoa1997 oh i thought i would introduce some of them to minetest
15:34 jojoa1997 is this right? !up diamondmining.no-ip.org 30000
15:34 jojoa1997 !up diamondmining.no-ip.org 30000
15:34 Minetest-tan diamondmining.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down
15:34 marktraceur jojoa1997: Yelling "MINETEST" and leaving is not how we do that.
15:34 jojoa1997 ok nvm
15:34 jojoa1997 sorry this morning i was a little out of it
15:35 marktraceur jojoa1997: Please apologize to Mustek, he's an op over there and has to deal with problems like this
15:36 marktraceur jojoa1997: He's in this channel right now.
15:37 sfan5 marktraceur: which problems?
15:37 marktraceur sfan5: #minecraft has pretty frequent problems with our users
15:37 jojoa1997 i stupidly put a post in #minecraft earlier i dont know what i was thinking
15:38 marktraceur sfan5: This led to a sort of understanding that we would help them smooth things over when that occurred
15:38 john_minetest I am still banned from #minecraft.
15:38 marktraceur john_minetest: Why's that?
15:40 john_minetest I said "Not much going on here, on #minetest there is more and there are half of the people". Then I was banned. I apologized to the channel operator after this and promised, that I would never do this again, but he didn't unban me :(. And Zeg9 was banned for saying "Hi" to me in #minecraft.
15:41 RealBadAngel they do feel breath of Minetest on their necks, simply
15:41 jojoa1997 we do mod more than them on irc
15:42 jojoa1997 it is like one big family here
15:42 marktraceur john_minetest: If you have some logs of that I would like to discuss them
15:42 john_minetest Minetest is not Minecraft. Minecraft are several server-communities, Minetest is one central, Open-souce, dev-community.
15:42 john_minetest jojoa1997^
15:43 RealBadAngel they already started to copy our solutions
15:43 john_minetest marktraceur: I haven't got the logs any more.
15:43 marktraceur RealBadAngel: That's no reason to be rude to the Minecraft community on this network
15:43 sfan5 ^
15:43 RealBadAngel am i rude?
15:44 jojoa1997 i am going to make a hunger games map and hopefully it will be on a server
15:44 marktraceur RealBadAngel: No, but there have been multiple instances of (at least perceived) rudeness on #minecraft by our community.
15:44 sfan5 no, but it sounds like you'll get rude because of that
15:45 RealBadAngel no way
15:45 RealBadAngel i like minecraft
15:45 RealBadAngel played it for almost a year
15:46 RealBadAngel but wanted "more" that mc wasnt able to offer
15:46 marktraceur RealBadAngel: This doesn't surprise me, but some people don't really care about that, they're looking to make a difference in this community, or maybe they're looking to troll someone
15:46 RealBadAngel thats why ive chosen minetest
15:46 marktraceur RealBadAngel: I specifically said to the mods over there that I would help them deal with these issues, *and* I changed the topic here to reflect that.
15:46 john_minetest I also played it for some time. But then all these RPG elements came in. And I wanted an open-source solution.
15:47 RealBadAngel nothin wrong with rpg elements, it went in the much worse direction
15:48 RealBadAngel mc is spinnin in the circle now
15:48 RealBadAngel not knowin what direction it shall choose
15:48 marktraceur OK, my point is, the people over at #minecraft aren't the people we need to be fighting. Just do good work here, in this community, and leave them alone.
15:48 john_minetest I left minecraft short after the potions were introduced.
15:49 RealBadAngel imho we shall not fight them
15:49 john_minetest +1
15:49 RealBadAngel sooner or later they gonna see we have much more to offer
15:49 RealBadAngel no need for flame wars
15:51 RealBadAngel and mt each day is getting better and better
15:51 RealBadAngel way faster mc did
15:52 marktraceur Mustek: To hear jojoa tell it he's been a bit tired this morning. Mind giving him a pass on this one? Not to worry, I have an eye on him.
15:52 harrison are you going to hike up your roots and skedaddle like a box turtle on nitrous oxide?
15:52 marktraceur (public message because you bloody well know you're on my list)
15:54 marktraceur harrison: What on earth does that mean? :)
15:55 harrison i don't know -- it comes from a dream right before i woke up
15:55 jojoa1997 anyone got any ideas for my hungergames map
15:55 jojoa1997 i got the spawn area done mostly
15:55 jojoa1997 gonna give pics soon
15:55 Mustek The one in our channel was more colorful, harrison
15:55 harrison one would think that nitrous oxide would make a turtle sluggish and unable to skedaddle
15:55 harrison such is dream logic
15:56 harrison i have confirmed that #minecraft is intolerant
15:56 harrison just now
15:57 marktraceur harrison: By what method?
15:57 harrison by being kicked out/. my crime? only that i loved too much
15:57 Mustek http://i.imgur.com/EqQF2py.png
15:57 harrison that too
15:58 marktraceur So....same deal?
15:58 harrison i have not built minetest since last year. i sincerely hope that the 2d rat has not been deprecated
15:58 harrison i loved the rat
15:58 Mustek no ban, just a kick
15:58 marktraceur Oh. K.
15:59 jojoa1997 here is what i have so far
15:59 jojoa1997 http://ompldr.org/vaDdlcQ
16:00 jojoa1997 http://ompldr.org/vaDdlcg
16:00 jojoa1997 http://ompldr.org/vaDdlcw
16:00 john_minetest I think it could have been Mustek who banned me from #minecraft. But I am not sure.
16:01 john_minetest Mustek: The screenshot looks interesting, what IRC client do you use?
16:02 Mustek hexchat
16:02 jojoa1997 me?
16:02 jojoa1997 oh nvm
16:03 john_minetest Mustek: thx.
16:04 Mustek and john, you have to ask skuld, not me
16:04 john_minetest Okay. I will try to reach him.
16:05 kaeza marktraceur, are you busy? I need some help with math.
16:06 marktraceur kaeza: I'm around, what do you need?
16:06 kaeza I'm trying to calculate the distance between two 3D points
16:06 john_minetest brb, trying out hexchat.
16:06 kaeza here's my code so far: http://pastebin.com/R1RSY8hW
16:06 kaeza I believe there's something wrong there
16:07 kaeza the "damage" does not get calculated correctly
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16:08 marktraceur Looks right to me
16:08 marktraceur kaeza: Maybe you should try some debug statements to see what it comes up with?
16:08 kaeza okay
16:10 marktraceur kaeza: Also, how do you know that it's wrong?
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16:15 kaeza marktraceur, think I found the bug
16:15 kaeza it's doing the opposite things
16:15 kaeza the more the distance the more the damage
16:16 kaeza it should be less distance == more damage
16:16 kaeza I have fixed that
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16:18 kaeza nice! works ok now!
16:18 kaeza dist: 4.0935563115241,damage: 1.8128873769518
16:18 kaeza dist: 3.3436000870188,damage: 3.3127998259625
16:20 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
16:20 sfan5 hello
16:22 mauvebic lol fancy that - 24 hours after switching to ubuntu, alan cox quit lol http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/01/24/1334234/alan-cox-update---leaves-linux-development-and-intel?utm_source=slashdot&amp;utm_medium=twitter
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16:23 markveidemanis Hiii!
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16:25 harrison omg http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&amp;dat=19981004&amp;id=Xw8wAAAAIBAJ&amp;sjid=6gMEAAAAIBAJ&amp;pg=3281,871019
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16:34 kaeza lol throwing grenades at myself
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16:39 * kaeza is now doing an RPG
16:41 marktraceur harrison: Well, that explains where the dream came from, I guess.
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16:41 jojoa1997 kaeza can you send me the download to test the mod
16:41 kaeza jojoa1997, I need to tidy up some things first
16:41 kaeza posting in forums real soon
16:42 jojoa1997 ok
16:42 jojoa1997 ant dependencies?
16:42 markveidemanis Hello, jojoa1997
16:42 jojoa1997 hi
16:42 markveidemanis You no longer have spawn due to holes in the floor and chests being placed.
16:43 jojoa1997 what do you mean
16:43 kaeza my intention is not to depend on any external mods if possible
16:43 kaeza oh
16:43 jojoa1997 is this for marktwain server?
16:43 markveidemanis However, my final decision will depend on what you do with spawn in the future.
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16:43 kaeza talking to markv?
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16:44 markveidemanis kaeza: i would also like to test it.
16:44 markveidemanis :D
16:44 rubenwardy hi all
16:44 jojoa1997 markv what final decision
16:44 jojoa1997 hi
16:44 harrison marktraceur: so i must have seen the story in 1998 and it recrudesced ...
16:45 markveidemanis wether or not to grant you access to spawn area
16:45 harrison as a phase i spoke in a dream....
16:45 Calinou <mauvebic> lol fancy that - 24 hours after switching to ubuntu, alan cox quit lol http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/01/24/1334234/alan-cox-update---leaves-linux-development-and-intel?utm_source=slashdot&amp;utm_medium=twitter
16:45 jojoa1997 how can we not give acces to spawn area?
16:45 markveidemanis E.g. lava pit, holes, trees, chests
16:45 Calinou did he search a post about himself qutting from the dash?
16:45 Calinou :-D
16:45 Calinou he should've used xubuntu
16:45 markveidemanis i do /list_areas then /remove_areas <number>
16:45 mauvebic yeah and it gave him amazon results XD
16:46 jojoa1997 markv grant me the grant priv
16:47 mauvebic i can understand his frustration though - very few distros work out the box these days (regression)
16:47 markveidemanis i am compiling irrlicht atm
16:47 markveidemanis very slowly...
16:47 Calinou mauvebic: EVERYTHING SUCKS!!!!!
16:48 * Calinou jumps from a building and lands on mauvebic
16:48 harrison coxucker
16:48 mauvebic between 06-08 though it looked as if they were getting their shit together
16:49 mauvebic its still funny that it took 24 hours of unity to produce a ragequit lol
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16:50 jojoa1997 markv grant me all
16:50 rubenwardy1 can anyone think of more questions? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65522
16:52 harrison why does the porridgebird lay his egg in the air?
16:52 mauvebic tho i still find xfce on ubuntu is assrapingly slow
16:52 harrison use siduction instead
16:52 Calinou let's use the distros noone uses
16:52 Calinou then complain about lack of support
16:52 harrison http://siduction.org/
16:53 Calinou yep. noone uses it.
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16:53 mauvebic arch and slack have decent support and they havent follow the path of others
16:53 Calinou mauvebic: you can remove some startup daemons, it frees up like 50MB of RAM :-) and a few seconds of boot time
16:53 Calinou both are complicated to install and maintain
16:53 Calinou *buntus are not
16:53 harrison the true bleeding edge never heals. hell, it doesn't have time to CLOT
16:53 markveidemanis jojoa not funny!
16:53 kaeza just asking, but is NC appropriate on the forums?
16:54 sfan5 linux 3.4-rc4 is finally compiled
16:54 kaeza (license)
16:54 mauvebic a few years of trying to fix ubuntu and youll have more than enough skills to install and maintain arch/slack lol
16:54 rubenwardy1 kaeza: it is not "polite"
16:54 Calinou harrison: ubuntu might become rolling release, be happy :-D
16:54 kaeza ok
16:54 rubenwardy1 you can use it
16:54 mauvebic how can ubuntu be complicated to install? last i checked they removed most the options lol
16:54 Calinou mauvebic: I use xubuntu 12.10, didn't use any fix or hack to make it work
16:55 Calinou I'm using xorg-edgers PPA to use the 313.18 driver (faster and supports opengl 4.3), only "hack" I did to have latest driver, in addition to downloading some software from upstream
16:56 Calinou mauvebic: if I were canonical I'd make one distro instead of one distro + derivatives with their DEs, then you choose the DE and applications to install when installing... so that you're not forced to install apps you don't want ;-)
16:56 kaeza rubenwardy1, I was looking for a good explosion sound, but the one I like is released as CC-BY-NC
16:56 kaeza http://www.freesound.org/people/harpoyume/sounds/86026/
16:56 Calinou kaeza: record yourself farting
16:56 rubenwardy1 that is fine
16:56 rubenwardy1 use it then :d
16:56 kaeza Calinou, that would be more appropriate for a nuke :D
16:56 markveidemanis haha
16:57 mauvebic anyways, how long has canonical got left? they tried support, they tried selling hardware, have they got to begging yet?
16:57 markveidemanis yop
16:57 Calinou yeah, when you download ubuntu (other *buntus are not affected) they ask for a donation
16:57 Calinou there is a small-ish button "continue without donating"
16:58 mauvebic final stage
16:58 Calinou but, WTF is wrong with making money? at least we have a popular distro with good hardware support and everything
16:58 mauvebic even millionaires get tired of throwing away money like piss in the wind
16:59 mauvebic nothing wrong with making money, i just dont see how you can make much with FLOSS
16:59 harrison Calinou: rolling release or not why would i use a distro named with a swahili word?
16:59 mauvebic if you sell support, you have financial incentive to write buggy software
16:59 Calinou harrison: because? :3
16:59 Calinou <mauvebic> nothing wrong with making money, i just dont see how you can make much with FLOSS
16:59 Calinou so we should make all our software proprietary?
16:59 mauvebic selling hardware: hard to compete in that arena
17:00 Calinou <intel/nvidia seal of approval>
17:00 mauvebic no, show me a way to make money with FLOSS without resorting to begging, merchandising or having to sell support for overly (intentionally?) complicated software
17:01 Calinou F2P games, selling art for games, subscribing for some premium services such as cloud hosting, etc
17:01 Calinou :P
17:01 Calinou mauvebic: guess how id software makes money for their older games
17:01 Calinou the engine is open source but if you want to play the game, you have to buy the art
17:02 mauvebic thats basically what's happenning yeah lol
17:02 mauvebic youre not buying your software upfront but you're encouraged to pay for it every month with subscriptions
17:03 Calinou you still make money
17:03 mauvebic and by virtue of being FLOSS any problems you have are your own fault lol
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17:04 kaeza It's funny how all the public domain (or WTFPL or CC0) stuff is pretty crappy
17:04 Calinou ...since always
17:04 Jordach hehehe
17:04 Calinou as soon as I see good art, I think it is non-free :-D
17:05 Calinou there are exceptions of course (eg. xonotic) but it's almost always the case
17:05 berome [17:50] <rubenwardy1> can anyone think of more questions? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65522
17:05 berome why we stay here ?
17:05 kaeza Calinou, srsly, do you think this is an "explosion"?? WTF is wrong with these guys??
17:05 kaeza http://www.freesound.org/people/Cyberios/sounds/145788/
17:07 mauvebic ideally if you need development capital you start out propietary and you opensource a year later
17:07 berome answers can be entertaining for visitors
17:08 Calinou inb4 someone makes "ask minetest"
17:12 Jordach Calinou, heh
17:13 * Calinou is backing up his home folder to an external HDD
17:13 Calinou thunar is awesome for doing this! must run it with gksudo :|
17:22 kaeza again, a question: is the BSD license accepted for mods in the forum?
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17:23 mauvebic why wouldn't it?
17:23 kaeza just asking :)
17:23 Calinou yes, any license is accepted, even proprietary ones
17:23 Calinou proprietary is discouraged of course
17:24 mauvebic im glad ppl finally got over that lol
17:24 kaeza what I mean is that some people do not like things like CC-BY-NC
17:24 kaeza so BSD is OK then...
17:24 Calinou yes
17:25 mauvebic NC covers your ass though if someone tries to make a product out of something you didn't 100% make yourself
17:25 Calinou it only enforces attribution over two other small things
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17:28 markveidemanis hi
17:28 kaeza hmm... I'm OK with BSD, but I don't understand that "All Rights Reserved" thing
17:30 rubenwardy1 it means all your rights to the mods are yours
17:30 markveidemanis hi
17:30 rubenwardy1 it means allthe rights to the mods are yours
17:31 markveidemanis <markveidemanis> hello
17:31 rubenwardy1 are there websites where you can get irrlicht maps from?
17:31 markveidemanis im bored
17:31 markveidemanis irrlivht maps?
17:31 rubenwardy1 *.irr
17:31 markveidemanis can you help  me get irrlicht
17:32 rubenwardy1 are there websites where you can get irrlicht maps from? (*.irr or *.quake)
17:32 rubenwardy1 damn
17:32 rubenwardy1 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=irrlicht
17:33 john_minetest rubenwardy1: you can create *.irr maps with coppercube.
17:33 rubenwardy1 i know
17:33 rubenwardy1 coppercube is shit
17:33 markveidemanis anyone seen Oblivion1500?
17:36 Calinou *.quake?
17:36 Calinou people still give shitty extensions to *.bsp files? :(
17:36 rubenwardy1 quake maps
17:36 rubenwardy1 bsp? a ha
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17:37 rubenwardy1 any good "bsp" editors (not QuArK)
17:37 Calinou netradiant
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17:37 Calinou gtkradiant, but updated and more stable
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17:49 markveidemanis i want to make a game like yogventures, i need a 3d engine any suggestions?
17:50 rubenwardy irrlicht
17:50 rubenwardy what is your experience level with game design, or any programming?
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17:53 markveidemanis None
17:53 markveidemanis but i am good at design and making things look pretty
17:54 markveidemanis and *some* understanding in programming.
17:54 rubenwardy try Scratch
17:54 mauvebic excellent skills for gnome shell
17:54 rubenwardy (joking)
17:56 kaeza rubenwardy, you can try an old version of WorldCraft
17:57 kaeza (originally for Quake)
17:57 kaeza newer versions dropped support for quake BSP files
17:57 kaeza (they edit Half Life BSPs now)
17:58 markveidemanis any *sensible* suggestions?
17:59 rubenwardy Unity?
17:59 rubenwardy ( Unity3d, that is)
18:00 markveidemanis idk...i think i tried it
18:00 markveidemanis something for 256MB ram
18:00 markveidemanis and a really bad proccesor
18:00 kaeza hmm don't have any experience with unity
18:01 kaeza (besides playing Slender :D )
18:01 rubenwardy no not unity
18:01 rubenwardy Unity 3D
18:01 rubenwardy game engine
18:01 kaeza yup
18:01 kaeza Unity 3D is used by Slender
18:01 markveidemanis for a raspberry pi
18:02 rubenwardy I was talking to markveidemanis
18:02 markveidemanis 3d and first person
18:02 kaeza IIRC
18:02 markveidemanis or too slow?
18:02 rubenwardy yu huh
18:02 kaeza oh sorry
18:02 rubenwardy depends on the content
18:02 rubenwardy it exports to linux
18:02 markveidemanis scoring system and win/lose conditions
18:02 rubenwardy ...
18:02 markveidemanis maybe some buttons and puzzle stuff
18:03 kaeza I have him in my ignore list, so thought you were talking to me :D
18:03 markveidemanis Old and pyramid/dwarf based
18:04 mauvebic i *had* him on ignore, dont know how i can see him now lol
18:04 markveidemanis its magic
18:05 kaeza http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4557 <== ???
18:06 kaeza I reserve my comments on that one ^^
18:06 mauvebic i saw it lol
18:06 mauvebic like "wah wah why arent you as good as MC?"
18:07 mauvebic where in the mission statement does it state anyone is aiming for a perfect clone of MC?
18:07 kaeza nowhere
18:07 kaeza srsly, why don't these guys go play MC? I don't have anything against that game, but you can't come here and cry like that
18:08 mauvebic the crux yeah lol
18:08 mauvebic if you already own MC and prefer, then whats the point?
18:09 kaeza ...or maybe we're just feeding a troll :|
18:09 mauvebic thats why i didnt answer lol
18:09 rubenwardy he does play minetest though
18:10 mauvebic if people cant figure it out on their own nothing you say will help them better appreciate the facts
18:10 thexyz instead of replying in that thread Calinou could just say something like >fuck off
18:10 marktraceur mauvebic: The point is you can't own MC :)
18:10 Calinou thexyz: would work too :D
18:10 thexyz why does he want to "hear your opinion on these" instead of trying to make Minetest better?
18:11 thexyz that has no point
18:11 Calinou "trying to make minetest better" isn't always easy
18:11 Calinou not everyone is a programmer or an artist
18:12 mauvebic he doesnt want opinion just validation and rubbing it in a little lol
18:14 kaeza we should go there in a group and post as many "no" posts as possible before a COMBO BREAKER
18:14 kaeza troll the troll :D
18:15 kaeza </badidea> :/
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18:17 STHGOM can anyone here give me fly on minetest.org?
18:18 markveidemanis omg i just started unity on lubuntu
18:18 kaeza depends
18:18 markveidemanis looks *similar* to ubuntu
18:18 kaeza which server?
18:18 mauvebic there are 20 servers on org arent there?
18:18 markveidemanis STHGOM: which port
18:18 kaeza 19
18:18 STHGOM port 30015
18:18 markveidemanis plz be 30010...
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18:20 STHGOM zegaton
18:21 sfan5 !up minetest.org 30010,30015
18:21 Minetest-tan minetest.org:30010 is up (0.294ms)
18:21 Minetest-tan minetest.org:30015 is up (0.285ms)
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18:23 markveidemanis i want to use sudo to do the opposite of apt-get install
18:23 rubenwardy markveidemanis: http://www.unity3d.com/
18:23 rubenwardy NOT UNITY
18:23 rubenwardy unity 3d
18:23 markveidemanis i need to get rid of unity now
18:23 rubenwardy free for non commercial use
18:24 markveidemanis i need to get rid of unity with sudo
18:24 sapier thats the good old "what is non commercial" problem again
18:24 rubenwardy actually
18:24 rubenwardy you can use it for commercial
18:24 sapier sudo "rm -rf /"
18:24 STHGOM whoever can please come to minetest.org port 30015
18:24 STHGOM over and out
18:24 sapier DON't execute last command ;-)
18:25 kaeza sapier: rm -fr /: command not found
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18:25 rubenwardy "May be licensed and used by companies or incorporated entities that had a turnover in excess of US$100,000 in their last fiscal year."
18:25 rubenwardy sorry
18:25 john_minetest sapier: format c:/
18:25 rubenwardy "May not be licensed and used by companies or incorporated entities that had a turnover in excess of US$100,000 in their last fiscal year."
18:25 sapier :-) I hope no one executes that commands :-)
18:26 markveidemanis help me get rid of a program from terminal!!!
18:26 sapier you can't easyly remove unity from ubuntu
18:27 sapier it's nearly as complicated as removing internet explorer from winxp
18:27 markveidemanis lubuntu
18:27 kaeza sapier: fun fact: I once did a sudo rm -fr ${DIR}/*
18:27 kaeza guess what happens when DIR is empty :(
18:27 sapier with DIR not being set?
18:27 sapier something similar happened to me to ... I guess everyone does make this misstake at least once
18:28 kaeza I C-c'd, but everything up to and including /etc was gone :(
18:28 sfan5 it annoys me that "forum.minetest.net/admin/users.php?show_users=123.*.*.*" doesn't work
18:28 berome (john_minetest: [19:17] <STHGOM> can anyone here give me fly on minetest.org? had you seen that ?)
18:28 FreeFull kaeza: alias rm = "rm -i"
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18:30 kaeza FreeFull, that negates the use of -fr on the useful cases.
18:31 john_minetest I never made "rm -Rf /*" on a productive system, but a few times on an CD iso and one time before reinstalling linux from *.iso
18:32 rubenwardy lol http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4400
18:32 sapier hmm ... there are two possible ways to solve this ... admit I'm wrong ... or pretend you don't exist ... I choose second option ;-)
18:33 sfan5 seems like jordan4ibanez got his facebook account disabled/removed
18:33 Jordach sfan5, huh?
18:34 sfan5 all his messages are flagges as spam and i can't reply to the conversation..
18:34 sfan5 *flagged
18:34 john_minetest I thought he was banned for 3 days?
18:34 john_minetest Or did the time pass so fast?
18:35 sfan5 john_minetest: do you mean the minetest forum?
18:35 john_minetest Oh, it is an old post.
18:35 sapier banned for 3 days in facebook?
18:35 FreeFull john_minetest: What's fun with a cd and a spare machine is writing random junk to ram
18:35 mauvebic how do you get banned on facebook?
18:36 john_minetest Ragnar has been banned on minetest forum.
18:36 sapier I was wondering too mauvebic
18:36 mauvebic really?
18:36 mauvebic what did ragnar pull?
18:36 john_minetest as answer to this IRC message:  <rubenwardy> lol http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4400
18:37 rubenwardy I am just saying that, that never happended
18:37 rubenwardy "release on the 13 jan"
18:37 mauvebic ragnar doesnt seem to be banned
18:37 sfan5 he should be
18:37 rubenwardy he is not now
18:38 sfan5 ...
18:38 john_minetest Ragnar has insulted someone in his forum signature. That's why he has been banned.
18:38 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=3352
18:38 mauvebic i know he's abit annoying but has he done anything serious?
18:38 Jordach sfan5, your usually not this active, what gives?
18:38 rubenwardy spamming, time wasteing, trolling
18:38 john_minetest mauvebic: <john_minetest> Ragnar has insulted someone in his forum signature. That's why he has been banned.
18:38 kaeza mauvebic, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-01-22#i_2830234
18:38 sfan5 Jordach: what do you mean?
18:38 FreeFull Who did he insult?
18:38 mauvebic i guess he or someone removed his sig :p
18:38 Jordach you've been talking recently and posting often
18:39 sfan5 i was playing minecraft a lot recntly until my computer broke...
18:39 sfan5 and i decided to be active in minetest community again
18:39 sfan5 mauvebic: i removed his sig
18:40 mauvebic what i found funny was his plans on competing with steam with apple-grade comissions lol
18:40 berome john_minetest: true !
18:40 mauvebic found it http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-01-22#i_2830260
18:40 rubenwardy no, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-01-22#i_2830268
18:41 mauvebic i somewhat suspected he was immature, only kids make huge plans with few skills to back them up
18:41 Jordach mauvebic, heh
18:41 sfan5 where did ragnars ban go?
18:42 * Jordach doesnt know what to do with the shirt clip for the headset
18:42 sfan5 throw it out of the window?
18:42 Jordach nope.
18:42 Jordach ill probably clip it to my ear
18:43 mauvebic dunno who unbanned him but it wasnt me lol is cornernote still banned? (doubt he's coming back)
18:43 sfan5 mauvebic: you aren't a moderator on the forum, so you can't unban him
18:43 rubenwardy who is he? http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=93
18:43 mauvebic (that was the joke)
18:43 sfan5 cornernote is still banned
18:44 sfan5 rubenwardy: person celeron55 seems to know IRL
18:44 Jordach Vohveli, rubenwardy is asking who you are
18:44 rubenwardy thexyz is an admin?
18:44 sfan5 yes
18:45 rubenwardy oh yeah, he hosts the forum
18:45 * Jordach wants to see more moderators that are 24/7
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18:45 mauvebic rba and olcoder if they have the time
18:46 rubenwardy pilzadam would be good
18:46 PilzAdam hm?
18:46 mauvebic isnnt he already?
18:46 rubenwardy no
18:46 sfan5 we could distribute moderators over different timezones
18:46 sfan5 no
18:46 mauvebic then theyd all have to stick to that schedule
18:46 rubenwardy or Jordach could be
18:47 rubenwardy not nesseciarly
18:47 Jordach VanessaE pretty much covers GMT-6
18:47 Exio http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=3
18:47 Exio the best account 4ever
18:47 Jordach thats not the test user: http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=2
18:47 Jordach this is.
18:47 kaeza lol
18:48 kaeza ... who is the first one then?
18:48 Jordach id=1 does not exist
18:48 kaeza thought user #1 was c55...
18:48 Jordach i tested
18:48 Jordach kaeza, id=2 is the first user
18:49 kaeza ah
18:49 sfan5 i just found a bug in punbb: i can't see the ip of celeron55 on his user site bbecause he has a higher rank than me, but i can access the ip stats for him
18:49 sfan5 *because
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18:52 markveidemanis !up minetest.org 30010
18:52 Minetest-tan minetest.org:30010 is up (0.283ms)
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18:54 john_minetest markveidemanis: Don't you think, that everybody knows your server IP after you have been spamming here since your server went online? If nobody comes to your server, it is not because it is not known, but because people are tired of reading spam.
18:55 Jordach john_minetest, yup, people get tired
18:55 Jordach ...and bored
18:56 mauvebic http://www.dailyllama.com/news/2004/images/golden_honey_spam_large.jpg
18:56 Vohveli Jordach: rubenwardy will need to clarify the question
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18:58 rubenwardy I have never seen you on the forums before (cause you have 0 posts)
18:59 rubenwardy I was wondering the reason that you are a moderator
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19:00 Jordach mauvebic, more like this: http://i.imgur.com/8i8WgOM.jpg
19:00 john_minetest I heared spam is good. But in world war there was limited supply to every food but spam. So everybody hated it because there was nothing else and everybody was sick of eating this stuff all the time.
19:00 kaeza is the smoke thing when you destroy a mob from MOBF or is it from default/builtin?
19:01 Jordach kaeza, builtin
19:01 kaeza ah thanks
19:01 kaeza I'm new with entities and things like that
19:01 mauvebic <rubenwardy> I was wondering the reason that you are a moderator
19:01 Vohveli rubenwardy: so that I can move stuff to where it belongs, I seem to recall
19:01 mauvebic secret super powers http://aleheads.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/shower-mask.jpeg?w=300&amp;h=221
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19:02 rubenwardy are you a friend of celeron55?
19:02 mauvebic re jordach: lol
19:02 mauvebic spamserver
19:02 Jordach :P
19:02 Jordach sometimes im a cunt, today is one of those days
19:02 Jordach >:)
19:03 mauvebic im such a dick: when they bury me, i want to be upside down in the casket so everyone can kiss my ass XD
19:03 john_minetest :|
19:03 Jordach mauvebic, nono, fill your body with popcorn kernels and be cremated
19:03 Jordach :D
19:03 kaeza wow c55 reached (and passed) his 300th post. Congrats! :P
19:04 Jordach kaeza, i broke 1000 around march 2011
19:04 john_minetest Jordach: lol. Everybody would remember you as the POPCORN KING!
19:04 Jordach s/2011/2012
19:04 mauvebic well the embalming process does involve shoving loads of cotton up one's ass (mod idea?) so might as well be popcorn kernels
19:04 * john_minetest has got 117 posts
19:04 Jordach i broke 2000 about june 2012
19:04 Jordach me and sfan5 raced to 2000
19:04 * kaeza is about to reach 500 ^_^
19:04 Jordach (or was it 1000? i never remember)
19:05 Vohveli rubenwardy: something like that
19:05 rubenwardy ok
19:05 Jordach how many pages of posts do i have? http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&amp;user_id=332
19:05 sfan5 Jordach: we raced to 1000
19:05 Jordach sfan5, much better, i remember now, and you won :P
19:06 kaeza and jojoa just passed 1000 in just a month?? O.o
19:06 mauvebic lol
19:06 mauvebic but he talks to himself alot
19:06 mauvebic (hasn't noticed the edit button)
19:07 hmmmm btw sfan5
19:07 hmmmm did you see the final fix for mingw
19:07 sfan5 yes
19:07 hmmmm okay
19:07 kaeza 99% of his replies are "how do I do this thing that's VERY CLEARLY WRITTEN ON THE VERY FIRST PAGE OF THE MANUAL?" and the other 1% is "me too!"
19:08 * Jordach wonders whether to work out how to make the map size set to long int map_size_motherfuckers;
19:08 mauvebic or map_size_yomama would be acceptable
19:08 Jordach ah shizzle
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19:09 Jordach opened hexchat again :P
19:09 iqualfragile or map_size_B16B00B5 to do it microsoft-style
19:09 Jordach iqualfragile, ha
19:10 Jordach or while we are at the jokes: im_tired_of_these_muthafuckin_snakes_on_this_mutherfuckin_map
19:10 kaeza what was the original point in making the map size/pos/whatever 16 bits wide?
19:10 kaeza If I may ask
19:10 Jordach dunno
19:10 hmmmm what should've it been?
19:10 Jordach long int
19:10 hmmmm lol.  too big.
19:11 Jordach at least maps will never run out
19:11 mauvebic infinininite!
19:11 hmmmm you'll never run out with the current maximum
19:11 kaeza Jordach, http://trinit.es/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/vista.jpg
19:11 PilzAdam you have to walk 2.7 days to reach the limit of the map
19:12 PilzAdam and you can dig not digable blocks in 1.6 days
19:12 mauvebic less then that in a hover car :/
19:12 rubenwardy real or ingame days?
19:12 PilzAdam real
19:12 berome with or without fly ?
19:12 PilzAdam walking
19:12 Jordach bullshit, i covered 9000 by walking in 0.3.2
19:12 Jordach thats one hour
19:13 Jordach bbl xonotic
19:13 sokomine some people for unknown reasons did build a city at 30k on redcrabs server. if the limit would have been higher they'd probably have gone there as well. it's a pity there is no convenient way to visit them :-(
19:13 rubenwardy kaeza: lol
19:13 mauvebic client-side mods for blueprinting and shit would be cool
19:14 kaeza :P
19:15 rubenwardy what would a mod that adds client-side shit be called, mauvebic?
19:16 kaeza fecal mod
19:16 PilzAdam Jordach, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=50463#p50463
19:16 sokomine blueprinting? what kind of blueprinting?
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19:20 mauvebic didnt the santa mod handle that? lol
19:20 mauvebic client side mods for saving buildings you find on other servers
19:21 mauvebic which could lead to a client side editor for converting nodes and rotating  the blueplrints
19:21 rubenwardy like world edit, but with no place capability
19:21 rubenwardy //p set
19:21 rubenwardy //save
19:21 mauvebic client side means the server doesn;t need to have it
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19:22 mauvebic so yeah you couldnt set or remove nodes
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19:23 mauvebic avatars would typically fall to the client side too
19:23 rubenwardy minetest.register_temp_node
19:24 mauvebic besides you can set markets without setting nodes
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19:27 markveidemanis how do i control another persons computer without them installing any software?
19:27 rubenwardy ask chuck norris
19:27 mauvebic Bones: how can you get a permit to do a damn illegal thing?
19:28 PilzAdam markveidemanis, the echo command is really helpful; read the manpage
19:29 sfan5 test test
19:29 markveidemanis echo?
19:29 PilzAdam no, its "Minetest"
19:29 markveidemanis in termonal?
19:29 PilzAdam markveidemanis, yes
19:30 mauvebic if you have to resort to hacking peoples computers to get them to play your servers, you might want to rethink the strategy
19:30 markveidemanis it just copies what i say
19:30 john_minetest markveidemanis: you can control other's computers with an easy command on windows: format c:/    ;)
19:30 markveidemanis no, i need to assist someone in getting minetest
19:30 rubenwardy (7:27:51 PM) rubenwardy: ask chuck norris
19:30 mauvebic cant you explain it to them?
19:31 PilzAdam markveidemanis, what OS does the target computer have?
19:31 PilzAdam s/have/run
19:31 markveidemanis Windows 7
19:31 PilzAdam then its easy
19:31 markveidemanis but i have lubuntu
19:33 rubenwardy (7:30:41 PM) rubenwardy: (7:27:51 PM) rubenwardy: ask chuck norris
19:33 PilzAdam cant you just tell them the link and then doubleclick minetest.exe?
19:34 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4245
19:35 sokomine mauvebic: ah. yes. that would be nice. i thought about something similar...a mod that allows you to export your own buildings in your protected area by sending them via email...
19:35 thexyz markveidemanis: http://www.teamviewer.com/
19:36 mauvebic sokomine i wonder if bots can post on pastebin
19:37 sokomine hm. pastebin...or maybe an extra site for such things? but that would require a webserver on the server
19:37 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4558
19:37 rubenwardy funny if nobody answered...
19:37 sokomine pastebin did work for me without javascript or such. so it ought to be usable for a bot as well i think. but email might work likewise (if the address is known)
19:38 mauvebic well blueprints are already saved to file you could use lua or python to post it on the net
19:39 sokomine i wonder if it could be done locally
19:39 sokomine hm. maybe easier on the server side...else how to select a part on the client side?
19:40 markveidemanis Look...
19:40 sokomine something else: it annoys me that there appears to be no chatlog. i'd like to have one where i could look up what was typed while i was building. the log found after pressing f10 is of limited help because it too often crashes the client - with everything said lost
19:41 markveidemanis I am sorry for spammming i will refrain from doing so in the future.
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19:41 mauvebic i wish there was a filesize limit on the debug log i often forget to delete it
19:41 sfan5 !sfu landmine
19:41 MinetestBot TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'list' objects (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/bot.py", line 162, in <lambda>)
19:42 rubenwardy if think the forum should have something like, if the last poster is the current user, and the last posts time was less than one hour ago, it cancels the posting
19:42 thexyz wtf is sfu?
19:42 PilzAdam sfan5, shes unhappy, leave her alone for a while
19:43 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload forumutils
19:43 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'forumutils' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/forumutils.py'> (version: 2013-01-24 19:44:58)
19:43 sfan5 !sfu landmine
19:43 thexyz PilzAdam: that's not Minetest-tan
19:43 MinetestBot NameError: global name 'users' is not defined (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/forumutils.py", line 62, in search_forumuser)
19:43 mauvebic not cancel, just automatically append
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19:43 thexyz btw, could you *please* test this non-working shit somewhere else, sfan5? ^^
19:43 sfan5 yes
19:44 sfan5 the bot already quit
19:44 thexyz that'd be really great
19:44 markveidemanis test on #mtmt
19:46 mauvebic http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/011/976/lumbergh.jpg
19:47 sfan5 markveidemanis: no
19:47 markveidemanis ok
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19:53 webdesigner97 hi
19:53 rubenwardy hi
19:53 webdesigner97 does this work? I'm currently using Thunderbird to chat here
19:53 webdesigner97 at least it seems so :D
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19:54 webdesigner97 ok, bye then :)
19:54 markveidemanis hi
19:55 sfan5 color
19:55 MinetestBot joined #minetest
19:55 markveidemanis no
19:55 sfan5 !sfu ACDC
19:55 MinetestBot ACDC Banned 42 posts, registered on 2012-05-12
19:55 markveidemanis minetest tan is bot
19:55 sfan5 :( no fancy colors
19:56 MinetestBot left #minetest
19:56 markveidemanis sfu?
19:56 markveidemanis !stfu :D
19:56 sfan5 sfu -> searchforumuser
19:57 markveidemanis ok
19:57 Jordach !sfu Jordach
19:57 markveidemanis !sfu MooMooMoo
19:57 Jordach aw man
19:57 * Jordach missed the leaving line
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19:58 markveidemanis sfan...
19:59 sfan5 markveidemanis: the bot is gone
19:59 markveidemanis it seems you are testing a bot here
19:59 markveidemanis Were, then
19:59 sfan5 i won't tell you
19:59 markveidemanis ?
19:59 Jordach <sfan5> i won't tell you -- sfan5 is a magician#
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20:00 sfan5 MinetestBot> Celeron56 Banned 1 posts, registered on 2012-08-28
20:00 sfan5 lol
20:00 markveidemanis artur99 ilyus01  <== recognise anyone?
20:01 Doc22 umm
20:01 Doc22 they are on minetest.org:30004
20:01 PilzAdam <MinetestBot> PilzAdam Member 1,393 posts, registered on 2012-07-20
20:01 Doc22 i recognise em..
20:01 markveidemanis Nop
20:01 Doc22 huh?
20:01 Doc22 i saw em today
20:01 markveidemanis lookie here http://minetest.org/data/worldlogs/marktwain-log.txt
20:01 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd91KZyptlQ
20:01 markveidemanis near end
20:02 Doc22 yeah they didnt have interact...
20:02 harrison confiers have NEEDLES
20:03 Doc22 what am i looking for
20:03 Doc22 i see that they tried all that stuff without interact
20:04 markveidemanis want them to come back on...
20:04 Doc22 ohhhhh
20:04 Doc22 okay
20:04 Doc22 a bit ago
20:04 Doc22 i saw artur trying to join
20:04 Doc22 but he left almost immediately
20:04 Doc22 he was on for a while
20:04 Doc22 and he has a house
20:05 Doc22 he'll be back i think...
20:05 markveidemanis r u sure he is not TheArtur
20:05 markveidemanis He grief...
20:05 Doc22 he was artur99
20:06 markveidemanis How do i disconnect someone from the server?
20:06 Doc22 he didnt grief when i was on earlier
20:06 Doc22 i think /kick (name)
20:06 markveidemanis not in irc...
20:06 Doc22 When i was on he didnt seem like griefer
20:06 Doc22 ill spy on him if you want
20:06 marktraceur markveidemanis: Tell them that they can get a special item if they press alt-f4?
20:07 Doc22 lol
20:07 markveidemanis they afk
20:07 marktraceur Well, then they aren't doing much damage.
20:07 Doc22 hmmm...
20:07 * FreeFull presses alt-f4. Nothing happens.
20:07 markveidemanis what DOES that do...?
20:07 Doc22 in the game...
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20:07 marktraceur markveidemanis: Pretty sure /ban <name> will do it
20:07 markveidemanis no, tried
20:07 Doc22 yeah if he causes any trouble?
20:07 Doc22 oh.
20:07 markveidemanis not disconnected
20:08 Doc22 you are talking about 30010?
20:08 Doc22 or 30004
20:08 marktraceur markveidemanis: Best bet is to revoke privileges, then, and they can just rail against their mute impotent selves until they give up
20:08 Doc22 i agree
20:08 markveidemanis ok
20:08 markveidemanis 30010
20:08 Doc22 what did he do?
20:08 Doc22 grief-wise
20:08 markveidemanis griefed skycity
20:08 markveidemanis D:
20:09 Doc22 D:
20:09 Doc22 okay then...
20:09 * Doc22 wonders when i will get moderator on 30004...
20:09 thexyz tell them to press alt+sysrq+b then
20:09 Doc22 lol
20:10 Doc22 (windows) system failure
20:10 Doc22 (windows) hard drive has been combusted
20:10 FreeFull My laptop doesn't have sysrq written on the prt sc key
20:10 Doc22 (windows) hard-drive-wipe.exe took 793ms
20:10 Doc22 (windows) please reinstall your operating system
20:11 Doc22 (windows) if you have oem, please repurchase it
20:11 RealBadAngel ive updated moretrees palm model (very latest build needed for it)
20:11 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/coconuts.png
20:11 RealBadAngel palms are now generated with coconuts
20:12 RealBadAngel also thx to the engine changes pines are lookin now way different and better
20:12 FreeFull I wonder if you could make palm leaves look better somehow
20:13 marktraceur Probably, with nodeboxes
20:13 kaeza Doc22, is arthur causing troubles on 30004?
20:13 Doc22 no
20:13 harrison the other children were cruel to me
20:13 harrison at the orphanarium
20:13 Doc22 i wouldnt have known he was a griefer
20:14 marktraceur moretrees:palm_frond_curved_down, moretrees:palm_frond_curved_left, moretrees:palm_frond_curved_right or something
20:15 RealBadAngel marktraceur, there randomly twisted already
20:15 Doc22 cool trees realbadangel
20:15 marktraceur They're*
20:15 Doc22 what are coconuts used for
20:15 RealBadAngel feed the beast
20:15 marktraceur RealBadAngel: I mean, make nodeboxes that are thinner fronds, so you don't need to make them so huge to achieve the effect
20:15 Doc22 okay
20:16 thexyz love reworked github search feature
20:16 thexyz https://github.com/search?p=1&amp;q=-----BEGIN+RSA+PRIVATE+KEY-----&amp;ref=searchresults&amp;type=Code
20:16 kaeza http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZusRnxOqPY
20:16 RealBadAngel marktraceur, im not any good with nodeboxes
20:16 kaeza RealBadAngel, need help with that?
20:17 Doc22 oh cool i want to learn more about nodeboxes...
20:17 RealBadAngel you can try to make it look better
20:17 Doc22 where does one learn about such things.
20:17 Doc22 ?
20:18 RealBadAngel reading other folks mods, search the forums?
20:18 Doc22 ok ill look through
20:18 RealBadAngel theres a topic bout basic nodeboxes models
20:18 Doc22 probably that computers mod is good for what I need to learn? eahh whatever
20:18 Doc22 and yeah i read that
20:18 Doc22 ill just experiment sometime
20:19 Doc22 i think i got collision detection down for my game (woooot)
20:19 Doc22 cheeers
20:19 Doc22 just need to add the logic
20:19 kaeza Doc22, computers has a helper function to design nodeboxes based on a texture
20:19 Doc22 okay
20:19 Doc22 ill look through it
20:19 kaeza see computers.pixelnodebox()
20:20 kaeza -s
20:20 Doc22 okay
20:20 Doc22 also im working on some more music so whoever wants to test it...
20:20 Doc22 ill pm link to those who are interested
20:21 rubenwardy bye all
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20:21 Doc22 bye
20:21 Doc22 aww too slow
20:22 Doc22 :/ nobody interested....
20:22 Doc22 oh well
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20:31 Doc22 lol
20:31 Doc22 kaeza you double logger you
20:32 * sokomine grabs a few trees from realbadangel and runs away with them
20:36 Doc22 lol
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20:37 kaeza wat
20:37 Jordach OH SHIT
20:37 Jordach i just found a bug
20:37 Jordach and this is horrible
20:38 * markveidemanis have ideas for trees mod
20:38 markveidemanis make trees from the twilight forest mod underground
20:38 Jordach PilzAdam, this is partly your fault
20:39 john_minetest Dum-dum-duuuuuuuum!
20:39 Jordach for the love of god: dont right click while weilding anything that uses facedir like furnaces
20:39 Jordach IT DELETES LOCKED CHESTS
20:39 Jordach since the right click change, it only happens now
20:40 john_minetest (this dum-dum-duuuuuum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rh5rf6xoT8 )
20:40 PilzAdam Jordach, nope, just tested
20:40 kaeza john_minetest, lol
20:40 Jordach PilzAdam, head to lpgc
20:41 Jordach also: it happens on 0.4.4-minetest-d1-minetest.ru
20:41 * markveidemanis shoots a UFO outside
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20:50 kaeza inb4 !up mt.org 30010
20:51 markveidemanis i need a teleporter mainframe like on gameboom server...
20:51 markveidemanis but i cant build
20:51 markveidemanis help...
20:51 kaeza guys what do you think of this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZusRnxOqPY&amp;feature=youtu.be
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20:55 john_minetest kaeza: looks nice.
20:55 jojoa1997_ kaeza when will you post the gun mod
20:55 kaeza john_minetest, I think I'll disable the smoke
20:56 kaeza it has a tendency to leave entities lying everywhere
20:56 kaeza and I suspect this would lag servers horribly
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20:57 jojoa1997_ kaeza when will you post the gun mod
20:57 markveidemanis jojoa:
20:57 kaeza I'm pushing to github
20:57 kaeza and then I'll make a post in the forums
20:58 markveidemanis do /nickserv ghost jojoa1997 <password>
20:58 jojoa1997_ markv: what
20:58 markveidemanis that will disconnect jojoa1997
20:58 markveidemanis Yop
20:59 markveidemanis so can you help me build a mainframe for teleporters, jojoa?
20:59 jojoa1997 sorry i am making a hunger games map
20:59 Taoki Jordach: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/112 Just fixed what you reported to me a month ago, about UV mapping on the legs being broken
20:59 jojoa1997 want to test kaeza's gun mod to see if i will add it
20:59 kaeza jojoa1997, there are still missing textures and sound
21:00 jojoa1997 oh
21:00 jojoa1997 i strill want to try it
21:02 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/palmHD.png
21:02 RealBadAngel name says it all ;)
21:03 jojoa1997 we can set time by saying 6am instead of 6000
21:03 PilzAdam gtg; bye
21:03 jojoa1997 cool
21:03 jojoa1997 oh and nice tree
21:03 Jordach i have the video evidence of said bug
21:04 Jordach (well the right click error)
21:04 jojoa1997 what bug?
21:04 Jordach its the repeat right click function
21:04 Jordach i'll explain more tomorrow
21:04 jojoa1997 so i like using that. it is better than keeping on clicking the right button
21:06 jojoa1997 kaeza is it synced?
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21:09 RealBadAngel jojoa1997, UI when used settime buttons post such message
21:10 jojoa1997 oh i forgot about those
21:10 jojoa1997 anyone: what is the configure on the singleplayer tab in the main menu for
21:11 jojoa1997 brb
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21:16 jojoa1997 hi all
21:17 john_minetest Having palm trees would be something, minecraft doesn't really have yet. At least not in default.
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21:20 KikaRz hi
21:20 Taoki Is it normal that transparent water stops being transparent sometimes?
21:20 KikaRz i'm again on floor
21:20 KikaRz people, my mod isnt working
21:20 KikaRz you can discover what's the problem?
21:20 KikaRz glad.
21:21 KikaRz I can compress it
21:21 KikaRz and then, send to someone to check it
21:21 KikaRz I can't make /giveme test:block
21:22 kaeza ok textures are done
21:22 kaeza now I need to make the sounds...
21:22 kaeza Taoki, happens sometimes
21:22 KikaRz Someone?
21:22 Taoki kaeza: Any way to fix it?
21:23 Taoki It didn't happen in the past
21:23 KikaRz this is being like #AoS on Quakenet...
21:23 KikaRz no helps.
21:23 kaeza not sure, I don't touch C++ code
21:23 KikaRz VanessaE, are you there, sweetie?
21:24 kaeza maybe something related to your gfx card config
21:25 KikaRz Someone?
21:26 marktraceur KikaRz: Can you post your code somewhere?
21:26 KikaRz ok
21:26 marktraceur Preferably not in the channel?
21:26 markveidemanis pastebin
21:26 KikaRz query?
21:26 KikaRz code is not too big.
21:26 marktraceur Doesn't matter
21:26 KikaRz just register node
21:26 marktraceur Get into a good habit now
21:26 KikaRz ... i can't access pastebin
21:26 KikaRz neither github
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21:26 markveidemanis minetest.register_node{
21:26 KikaRz System is updating
21:27 marktraceur KikaRz: Then do this after the system is updated
21:27 markveidemanis paste line by line :D
21:27 marktraceur NO.
21:27 KikaRz just 4 lines.
21:28 marktraceur KikaRz: And you have a depends.txt?
21:28 KikaRz No...
21:28 KikaRz ok. depends.txt
21:28 KikaRz default
21:28 KikaRz '-'
21:28 KikaRz lets try?
21:28 marktraceur Yeah.
21:28 KikaRz what i put on depends.txt ?
21:28 KikaRz just default ?
21:29 berome default = { }
21:29 KikaRz berome, what i put in {} ?
21:29 kaeza wut
21:29 kaeza KikaRz, just "default"
21:29 kaeza no "= { }"
21:30 KikaRz Ok
21:30 KikaRz let me test
21:30 berome it is this syntax in minetest 0.4 default mod
21:30 berome after I don't know .
21:30 marktraceur berome: In depends.txt? Really?
21:31 markveidemanis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie-the-Pooh
21:31 KikaRz lol
21:31 markveidemanis {INTERRUPTION}
21:31 marktraceur markveidemanis: What the fuck, dude?
21:31 markveidemanis could not resist...
21:31 KikaRz mod "firstmoddd" has unsatisfied dependencies: ""default""
21:31 KikaRz i guess it's just default
21:31 KikaRz without ""
21:31 berome no marktraceur : you are true
21:32 KikaRz now working
21:32 marktraceur Yay.
21:32 KikaRz error cannot give unknown item
21:32 KikaRz ...
21:32 KikaRz i hate this
21:33 markveidemanis why not JUST GIVE UNKNOWN ITEM?
21:33 kaeza yay got fragged by my own grenade lol
21:33 KikaRz ...
21:33 markveidemanis send mod...
21:33 KikaRz i typed:
21:33 KikaRz ./giveme firstmoddd:test
21:33 KikaRz thats the node
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21:33 KikaRz are you really serious?
21:34 KikaRz WHY FUCKING STUPID MOD ITS IN BLANK???
21:34 KikaRz DJ(=Q"#UR/=(#Q$RY"#Q($&!"()$&!"/$RW"
21:34 KikaRz well... in the old folder, it isnt
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21:34 KikaRz Linux trolled me
21:35 KikaRz cool node...
21:35 KikaRz problem: unbreakable
21:37 markveidemanis add a group...
21:37 KikaRz what group?
21:37 markveidemanis groups = cracky, and all that
21:37 KikaRz just cracky?
21:37 markveidemanis oddly_breakable_by_hand
21:37 KikaRz where is the level of crackyness?
21:37 KikaRz e_e'
21:38 KikaRz i want to be breakable with a stone pickaxe
21:38 KikaRz not only with hand
21:38 markveidemanis then stonelike
21:38 KikaRz well
21:38 markveidemanis drawtype
21:38 markveidemanis hold on
21:38 KikaRz going to host the pic
21:38 KikaRz on the imgur
21:38 KikaRz e_e'
21:39 markveidemanis groups = {cracky=3},
21:39 markveidemanis i think
21:40 markveidemanis !g spammy baker
21:40 Minetest-tan markveidemanis: http://bakernow.com/content/denver-loyalty-program-saving-baker-residents-money
21:40 markveidemanis i like it!
21:40 * markveidemanis gives thumbs up
21:40 KikaRz you will see... my fantastic invention
21:40 marktraceur markveidemanis: Care to be more off-topic?
21:40 markveidemanis ...
21:41 markveidemanis ok
21:41 KikaRz Use Cyan red glasses to see that in 6D
21:41 KikaRz u_u'
21:41 KikaRz Uploading
21:41 markveidemanis i can be more off-topic...
21:41 markveidemanis umm...StarWars!
21:41 marktraceur Good luck with that
21:41 KikaRz you ready?
21:42 KikaRz GET READY...
21:42 KikaRz http://i.imgur.com/Ql0NGWB.png
21:42 KikaRz pretty?
21:42 KikaRz :D
21:42 KikaRz now im stuck on this
21:42 KikaRz i cant break it
21:42 KikaRz e_e'
21:43 markveidemanis COUGH** Sure, pretty
21:43 markveidemanis but make less...circular
21:43 KikaRz e_e'
21:43 KikaRz it'll be more circular...
21:43 KikaRz so...
21:43 KikaRz not my problem
21:43 KikaRz i have new models
21:43 KikaRz for technic
21:44 KikaRz it should be like that?
21:44 KikaRz wait
21:44 KikaRz groups={level=1}
21:44 KikaRz ups
21:44 KikaRz groups={level=1, cracky=3}
21:45 KikaRz ok
21:45 KikaRz it is
21:45 markveidemanis groups = {...}
21:45 KikaRz what are groups?
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21:45 markveidemanis good question...
21:45 KikaRz how i make a name to my block?
21:46 RealBadAngel next one, http://realbadangel.pl/oakHD.png
21:46 KikaRz epic
21:46 KikaRz crunchbang updating
21:47 KikaRz 791 MB for dist-upgrade
21:51 KikaRz listening to music
21:51 KikaRz on the floor
21:52 KikaRz well
21:52 KikaRz i'm on the floor... isnt it?
21:52 KikaRz so... i'll listen to on the floor. Jennifer Lopez.
21:52 kaeza ding dong: https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-firearms
21:53 kaeza KikaRz, wanna play AOS on MT? ^
21:53 KikaRz ?
21:53 KikaRz AOS on mt?
21:54 markveidemanis YES!!!
21:54 KikaRz ...
21:54 KikaRz sucks.
21:54 markveidemanis wait...
21:54 KikaRz it isnt AoS anymore.
21:54 markveidemanis Ace Of Spades?
21:54 KikaRz it is Build and shoot
21:55 kaeza aaand posted :) http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65900#p65900
21:55 KikaRz No Screenshots
21:55 kaeza whatchacallit, there are now firearms in MT
21:55 KikaRz and my feedback : Sucks.
21:55 KikaRz Real AoS don't have Bazooka
21:55 kaeza thanks! you too :P
21:55 KikaRz neither grenade launcher
21:56 marktraceur nor*
21:56 KikaRz so.... it sucks
21:56 marktraceur KikaRz: In English, the first term of a negative list is prefaced with "neither" and the rest with "nor"
21:56 KikaRz nor?
21:56 marktraceur KikaRz: So it's "neither X nor Y nor Z"
21:57 KikaRz ok
21:57 marktraceur KikaRz: I'm aware that, at least in French, it's all the same word--"ni X ni Y ni Z"
21:57 KikaRz lol.
21:57 KikaRz Portugal: nem X nem Y nem Z
21:57 KikaRz in Spanish: ni X ni Y ni Z
21:57 kaeza same in spanish "ni X ni Y ni Z"
21:57 kaeza yup
21:57 kaeza ninja'd
21:58 marktraceur "siesta, little sleep? same in espanish!" --Fawlty Towers
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21:59 mauvebic lol
21:59 mauvebic dont mention the war
21:59 marktraceur mauvebic: I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it
21:59 mauvebic lol "once"
22:00 marktraceur "You started it!" "No we didn't!" "Yes you did, you invaded Poland!"
22:01 marktraceur Ah, great show.
22:01 mauvebic Oooooh i knooooow
22:01 mauvebic "whats wrong with the speaking clock? my wife isn't talking to it is she?"
22:02 marktraceur Don't be alarmed, it's just my wife laughing. Sounds like a seal being machine-gunned to death.
22:03 mauvebic you are men, orally men?
22:03 marktraceur Ha.
22:03 mauvebic or lol
22:04 mauvebic 'when i asked you to build me a wall, i thought rather than dumping the bricks in a pile you might have found time to cement them together?'
22:04 marktraceur In the traditional manner! :)
22:04 mauvebic forgot that bit lol
22:04 john_minetest kaeza: Is there a minetest-firearms server up?
22:04 marktraceur "Mr. and Mrs. Twitchin, this is the Colonel, Colonel, this is...." (Colonel twitches) "Oh, you've met have you?"
22:05 mauvebic or the one day he's a in a good mood (because one of the guests died) lol
22:05 marktraceur "What's the point in being alive?" "I don't know, we're stuck with it I suppose"
22:06 mauvebic there's a kipper sticking out of your jumper lol
22:06 * marktraceur had better stop this before it gets ridiculous :)
22:07 mauvebic i have to admit frasier is just about the only american sitcom i watch, the rest is even older lol
22:07 kaeza I'm getting bored of everyone b*tching about everything: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4561
22:08 mauvebic meh, fiddling with little things always generates controversy lol
22:09 mauvebic i have to admit tho, the signatures are pretty friggin pale, we dont have those old-ass CRT's here
22:09 RealBadAngel there will be same with trees "omg theyre bigger, i have to spend more time to cut it. im fuckin lazy.. lets make a poll to revert to old trees."
22:10 kaeza exactly :)
22:10 kaeza I like those trees
22:10 kaeza bigger trees == more wood :D
22:11 mauvebic well the key is to preserve or increase customization options, not changes things with no way back
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22:11 kaeza RealBadAngel, just tell them to install moreores, make a golden axe, be less lazy, and f*ck themselves
22:12 RealBadAngel propably this will end with an option to world gen
22:12 mauvebic i figured the new mapgen would handle it
22:12 mauvebic v7?
22:12 RealBadAngel "Generate trees instead of sticks" Yes/No
22:12 markveidemanis no
22:13 mauvebic trees cant spawn independently of their associated biomes
22:13 RealBadAngel not yet, not yet ;)
22:13 mauvebic and you know, theres room for default trees, smaller trees, the more the merrier when it comes to vegetation
22:14 RealBadAngel each biome will define kinds of trees that can spawn in it
22:14 mauvebic for the longest time we just had plain trees and flowers lol
22:14 RealBadAngel for some default tree lovers theres similar tree model, beech
22:15 RealBadAngel not much bigger 2-3 nodes
22:15 mauvebic in any case i want to see the default tree split from the mapgen since they dont spawn properly on nullmaps
22:15 sapier is vanessaes problem with trees killing minetest performance already fixed?
22:15 RealBadAngel theres an option in config to disable default trees
22:16 RealBadAngel sapier, generation speeded up a lot recently
22:16 RealBadAngel whats left is not our fault, emerge thread has to be fixed
22:16 KikaRz see you in few minutes
22:16 KikaRz going to reboot
22:16 sapier I mean problem discussed yesterday
22:16 sapier trees haven too much vertices effectivly killing minetest graphics core
22:17 RealBadAngel ah this
22:17 RealBadAngel i got the engine fix for this ready
22:17 sapier great :-)
22:17 mauvebic i though emergethread was fixed
22:17 RealBadAngel need to test it a bit more before pulling
22:17 sapier emerge thread isn't fixed it's a workaround that makes problem less often occur
22:18 RealBadAngel mauvebic, theres a patch out there that starts to fix the problem, but just starts
22:18 mauvebic i noticed yesterday the map loads faster but the inventory now takes a few minutes
22:18 sapier but the more features are added the bigger the chance it'll reoccur
22:18 mauvebic meh, feature freeze, fix all the bugs, call it 0.5
22:19 RealBadAngel call 911 to get them all fixed first ;)
22:19 sapier fix all the bugs? emerge thread fix most likely will touch about any core system to be completely fixed
22:20 mauvebic well its just gonna be more work as more features keep being added no?
22:20 sapier and not even the collision handling bugfix was accepted by celeron ... hope he's going to read the detailed explanation I added ....
22:21 mauvebic death by a thousand paper cuts lol
22:21 sapier yes at some point rewriting is only way to fix it ... still i believe minetest hasn't reached this point
22:22 mauvebic i have this bug on 0.4 stable where nodeboxes aren't selectable at certain facedirs
22:22 mauvebic nodebox textures still flicker yaw change
22:23 sapier player and entitys should be merged (at least their representation)
22:24 mauvebic mutinode and worldedit still have/need fix light commands
22:25 sapier they don't need a fix they need a complete rewrite of node change mechanisms in core
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22:25 mauvebic and -d1 is just slow lol
22:26 jojoa1997 kaeza http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4562
22:26 sapier jeijas recent patches improve situation but only fix one of two major problems
22:27 mauvebic though im in no immediate hurry to upgrade so i dont care if its bug fixes or new features/bugs
22:28 kaeza jojoa1997, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65908#p65908
22:31 jojoa1997 kaeza, i suggest making shotguns and hanguns have the close range fix
22:32 jojoa1997 the explosives have their own consequences
22:32 jojoa1997 and make a rifle that has the bug so it can only be used at long range
22:32 jojoa1997 also adding a bow would be nice
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22:33 * john_minetest is waiting for Zeg9.
22:33 kaeza patience little grasshopper
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22:34 john_minetest lol.
22:34 lauxrena hello earthlings
22:34 kaeza sorry, I'm from the moon
22:34 kaeza :)
22:35 lauxrena hello moonite??
22:35 kaeza better :)
22:35 lauxrena :D
22:36 jojoa1997 kaeza also if possible make the bullets entities(if you havent done so) and if the explosives connect with eachother then they explode
22:36 lauxrena awesome
22:36 kaeza jojoa1997, can you open up a fast server to test it?
22:36 kaeza jojoa1997, areyoukiddingme.jpg
22:37 marktraceur Minetest: PARTICLE PHYSICS
22:37 jojoa1997 i cant open up servers cause i havent forwarded a port. i did test it using 2 clients and a local server though
22:37 * marktraceur builds LHC in minetest
22:38 jojoa1997 kaeza, maybe make the bullets cut leaves or damage one block
22:38 kaeza jojoa1997, O RLY?
22:38 kaeza wanna test at doing that?
22:38 jojoa1997 are you being sarcastic?
22:38 jojoa1997 and at what
22:38 marktraceur Actually, it might be cool to damage a node with bullets
22:39 marktraceur Depending on the groups it has, you could break it from afar
22:39 kaeza jojoa1997, have you actually read the "TO-DO" section on the forum post?
22:39 mauvebic marktraceur plasma rifles lol
22:39 jojoa1997 no i mean for the shotgun and stuff
22:40 marktraceur mauvebic: That could just transform stuff into lava :)
22:40 jojoa1997 i know about explosives but having a shotgun break glass would be awsome
22:40 mauvebic naw well i wrote that a month ago
22:40 mauvebic not gonna change it now
22:40 jojoa1997 pair it up with the drop mod and there is realisticism
22:40 mauvebic https://sites.google.com/site/mauvemods/home/war-mod
22:40 marktraceur REALISTICISM.
22:40 marktraceur jojoa1997, everybody.
22:40 marktraceur Tip your waitresses.
22:41 sapier everyone is talking about adding features but have you looked at buglist? am i the only one concerned about those things?
22:41 jojoa1997 marktraceur i tip you
22:41 mauvebic sapier me lol
22:41 kaeza marktraceur, I'm working on it, but it's a bit hard to make it compatible with the protection mods out there
22:41 kaeza mauvebic, BFG9000 :)
22:41 kaeza wow
22:41 kaeza new word
22:41 marktraceur sapier: No, you're not
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22:41 marktraceur sapier: Want to triage bugs this weekend?
22:42 marktraceur Actually, question for the channel: Should we triage bugs this weekend?
22:42 telek What does 'run_tests(): 1 / 12 tests failed.' mean? I'd been getting it on and off a few months back, but now it's doing it all the time.
22:42 hmmmm yeah i dunno....
22:43 hmmmm just do --disable-unittests
22:43 lauxrena triaging bugs is allways good (IMO)
22:43 kaeza telek, using latest minetest AND minetest_game?
22:43 sapier I've already fixed some bugs I need feedback if it works or not! And maybe adding it would be great to as continuing to find other bugs is difficult without having old ones fixed.
22:43 hmmmm telek, why are you running as debug?
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22:43 mauvebic it is getting more difficult to track down the cause of new bugs lol
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22:43 KikaRz Hi.
22:43 KikaRz We can make one node in 15x15 and other in 30x30 ?
22:44 KikaRz or 32x32 ?
22:44 telek KikaRz: Power of 2.
22:44 KikaRz telex, <3
22:44 telek Maybe indexed from 0 (Hence 15/31)
22:44 KikaRz we can make it like that?
22:44 KikaRz mauvebic?
22:44 telek Nodes aren't currently done like that?
22:45 KikaRz well
22:45 KikaRz the image.
22:45 * telek assumed the default texture size was aligned with potential subdivisions of nodes.
22:45 KikaRz son
22:46 KikaRz lay on your bed, and sleep just a bit.
22:46 telek >.<
22:46 mauvebic what was the question?
22:46 KikaRz We can make one node (for mods) on 15x15 and another in 32x32 ?
22:46 telek hmmmm: Because I was getting random segfaults before.
22:47 telek kaeza: I'll double check.
22:47 mauvebic texture size?
22:47 KikaRz yea
22:47 kaeza <offtopic> http://software.wackonet.net/tgc/tgc.html </offtopic>
22:47 mauvebic if you use atlas best to stick to 16
22:47 KikaRz i'll make in 16x16
22:47 mauvebic if you have atlas disabled then any square size should be good
22:47 KikaRz i dont have atlas enabled...
22:47 KikaRz so...
22:48 mauvebic whatever looks good then
22:48 KikaRz but other people that will use this mod must have it on
22:48 KikaRz *could
22:48 mauvebic i start on the assumption that im the only one playing my mods and if anyone complains i fix it lo;
22:50 KikaRz hey
22:50 KikaRz what is the node extension?
22:50 KikaRz Png?
22:51 KikaRz mauvebic
22:51 KikaRz hello? somebody?
22:52 sapier what's a node extension?
22:52 KikaRz ...
22:52 KikaRz file image extension
22:52 KikaRz ...
22:52 sapier texture extension is png
22:52 mauvebic sorry was making coffee (cold pills knocking the wind out of me lol)
22:52 KikaRz ok
22:52 KikaRz bye
22:52 KikaRz tomorrow: RAINING TEXTURES FOR MY MOD!
22:52 KikaRz :D
22:52 KikaRz i love texture making
22:53 KikaRz specially when its colored.
22:53 sapier I need a clownfish mod and texture ;-)
22:53 sapier mod == model ;-)
22:53 mauvebic i saw the minecraft equivalent of rain - very crappé
22:53 telek kaeza: Looks like my minetest_game wasn't updating properly. Unfortunately now it's throwing errors because my worldmods are broken :D
22:54 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/birch_spruceHD.png
22:54 RealBadAngel 2 more trees textured
22:55 mauvebic omg i remember when there were birch growing_trees, damn things grew through buildings lol
22:56 sapier :-) that was fixed long time ago ;-)
22:57 mauvebic oh i know i dont even remember when exactly lol
22:57 mauvebic lost the screens on this comp (p4)
22:58 mauvebic well, i hope no one's planning any trips to north korea lol
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23:01 Dogzilla131 Hi kaeza
23:02 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/beechHD.png
23:03 RealBadAngel this is replacement for old default tree
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23:05 mauvebic moderator plz: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65922#p65922 inaccesible file
23:08 telek Attempt to index global default a nil value?
23:08 mauvebic ?
23:09 mauvebic you forgot to add default to depends.txt prolly
23:09 telek Ahh ok.
23:09 mauvebic and while not having a depends.txt or not declaring default still works on linux, it does not on win builds :-)
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23:12 Kacey hello
23:15 kaeza Hey! why didn't I ask this guy for tips/suggestions? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65911#p65911
23:15 kaeza </sarcasm>
23:15 telek kaeza: I think I botched my git update of minetest_game. Appears to have started now. Thanks kaeza
23:15 kaeza ok np :)
23:16 mauvebic i doubt likwid is anyone new
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23:17 blah_craft_ hello
23:17 kaeza mauvebic, what do you mean?
23:17 kaeza hey
23:18 mauvebic no one can be that stupid, he's trolling
23:18 mauvebic and it wouldnt surprise me to learn he's the troll we all know lol
23:18 telek Just out of curiousity, how is the Media handled? With more than a few mods involving textures it seems to hang pretty hard at the media loading message when connecting to servers. And it seems to get exponentially longer the more texture related mods you have installed.
23:19 kaeza mauvebic, I've started to think he's jojo in disguise lol
23:20 mauvebic i really dont like multis ive had to deal with mentally ill people in the past and i can see them coming a mile away lol
23:20 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/sequoiaHD.png
23:20 kaeza not a single "well done" post. Just smartasses that think the engine can do marvels
23:20 mauvebic telek all media is hosted serverside and downloaded by the client
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23:21 mauvebic the more you add the slower it gets
23:21 mauvebic and if your hosting locally on residential DSL, better be a good connection
23:21 telek mauvebic: I thought it did checksums against the client-side cache, is that wrong?
23:21 telek Actually same switch, and it's still slow.
23:21 mauvebic yeah but i think it starts over when you add new stuff
23:21 mauvebic checksum wouldnt be the same would it?
23:22 bas080 May i request topic move. http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2784
23:22 telek mauvebic: For any unmodified file it would be.
23:23 telek assuming per-file checksums.
23:23 mauvebic kaeza> not a single "well done" post.
23:23 mauvebic thats cuz the minute you finish something people are already asking for the next thing lol
23:23 telek Yeah, like where are my speed improvements!!!!!
23:24 telek I've only been waiting like since scripting went in! :D
23:24 mauvebic i mean its good to talk about these things, but theres a line between constructive and plain bitchin
23:24 blah_craft_ I like minetest better than minecraft - well done
23:24 kaeza telek whether the textures are cached or not, the server still has to communicate checksums with the client
23:25 telek kaeza: Yeah. But I've got like a 3-5 minute wait on connects now.
23:25 kaeza mauvebic, agreed
23:25 kaeza telek, texture loading
23:25 telek Any idea what the checksum format is?
23:25 telek kaeza: On a 100 megabit connection?
23:25 kaeza telek, a net connection has NOTHING to do with loading textures :)
23:26 mauvebic uhm
23:26 telek Oh you mean the clientside loading of textures?
23:26 kaeza yup
23:26 mauvebic most residential DSL's have a nice DL rate but a shitty UL rate so it does make a difference :p
23:26 telek mauvebic: This is on the LAN
23:26 mauvebic LAN? no probs then
23:27 telek Lots of probs, they just appear to be client/server, rather than connectivity related :D
23:27 kaeza telek, try unchecking "Preload Media" (or smth like that) on the config tab
23:27 mauvebic aparently us oldies are perverts ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ann-brenoff/breaking-up-with-minecraf_b_1940252.html
23:28 mauvebic lol
23:28 mauvebic "Sure, Minecraft monsters come out at night, but those weren't the ones I was worried about. I worried about the perverts who pose as other 11-year-old boys and want to play Minecraft with my son"
23:28 kaeza yeah
23:28 telek Y'know the minetest modding community should band together and make a minetest distro with some sort of shinies to lure in customers.
23:29 kaeza and I love the proverbial "he wasn't socializing with other kids"
23:29 telek Then you could all quit your day jobs when 7.7 million people pay for it :D
23:29 kaeza WTF?
23:29 RealBadAngel http://imgur.com/a/PXyaA#0
23:29 RealBadAngel made album with screenshots
23:29 Kacey anyone have the link to worldeditgui?
23:29 mauvebic if anything id love an 18/mature board
23:29 kaeza !g lmgtfy
23:29 Minetest-tan kaeza: http://lmgtfy.com/
23:30 kaeza Kacey, ^
23:30 telek Wow that is one crackpot mom.
23:30 telek Seriously, hasn't she taught her son to pretend he *IS* the 30 year old pervert, in order to keep perverts from hitting on him?
23:30 mauvebic cuz ianno, playing return to castle wolfenstein is so much healthier for kids lol
23:30 mauvebic ill admit to shaving off a few years, but not that many lol
23:31 telek mauvebic: Sure it is. You gotta learn how to take care of your enemies somewhere :D
23:31 kaeza umm... I don't dare ask how old mauvebic is
23:31 Kacey anyone?
23:31 telek He's graduated from the greybeard to the whitebeard phase :D
23:31 mauvebic :P
23:31 telek Kacey: Can't say that I do.
23:32 mauvebic i wont give any hints on age but ill say ive had over 30 jobs
23:32 blah_craft_ has anyone experienced a bug where you're jumping and you place a block right where you're about to land and you end up "inside" it ?
23:32 Kacey yep
23:32 Kacey all the time
23:32 kaeza blah_craft_, yup
23:32 blah_craft_ ok cool - i figured a bug like that wouldn't go unnoticed for long
23:33 blah_craft_ and I'm sure the devs are already on it
23:33 Kacey it cannot be fixed
23:33 blah_craft_ that's not a good attitude! lol
23:34 blah_craft_ anything is possible with time and money
23:34 mauvebic emphasis on the money
23:34 blah_craft_ hehe
23:34 kaeza wat http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4564
23:35 mauvebic but even if you paid celeron he;'s got school and other things going on, so its also a matter of time
23:35 * kaeza facepalms
23:36 Kacey VanessaE: are you around?
23:36 Kacey that bug cannot be fixed
23:36 mauvebic then put a bounty on it
23:36 Kacey because it is a placement issue
23:36 mauvebic node placement prediction or ?
23:37 Kacey the player is where the block is going to go
23:37 blah_craft_ that's what I would think
23:37 mauvebic heck sometimes i place a block, and it replaces the block behind or underneath it (wtf) lol
23:37 kaeza mauvebic, should I return the favor >:D http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4565
23:37 mauvebic what do you want to post there?
23:37 telek mauvebic: Did you check out: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ann-brenoff/? After reading the bio and the topmost headline I winced.
23:38 mauvebic oh, she's from california, that explains it (just joking marktraceur :P)
23:38 telek Certainly explains why the kid would need a digital escape :D
23:38 * telek is too.
23:39 mauvebic i know that type of mother well lol
23:39 telek Thankfully my part of the state is more of the neglectful parent than the overbearing one :D
23:39 mauvebic my father was absent and for a while in a sanitarium, so she' definately went into overdrive parenting lol
23:39 telek Not to say we don't have both, just not as bad as the wealthier parts of the state.
23:40 mauvebic while michael jackson was busy becoming a white woman, my father was become a latin woman lol
23:40 Kacey http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4297 interesting
23:41 mauvebic thats cool but i dont like the little lines
23:41 Kacey ?
23:42 mauvebic could nodeboxes be adapted to draw slopes and curves?
23:42 marktraceur mauvebic: I'm from Minnesota, and enjoy Cali-bashing as much as anyone :)
23:42 mauvebic without resorting to a billion microcuboids
23:42 mauvebic oh sweet
23:43 marktraceur And I can do it really well because of field study!
23:43 telek mauvebic: As long as they fit inside the nodebox and don't need to stack in a non-square fashion?
23:44 * telek had been considering something like that for a while.
23:44 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129
23:44 Minetest-tan 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.314ms)
23:44 mauvebic im an equal opportunity kind of guy - i dislike both quebeckers and the ROC lol
23:46 mauvebic quebeckers because they're crooked and the ROC because theyre getting to be radical
23:47 mauvebic i miss the peacemaking, take-no sides canada lol
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23:53 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYSfWcW8cYA
23:56 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaDdubQ/screenshot_1861917251.png the roof i just made
23:59 blah_craft_ it's because the US gvmt are bullies and have forced their way into a lot of things in CA

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