IRC log for #minetest, 2013-01-19

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Time	Nick	Message
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00:02	kaeza	Cybersoft, http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Creating_texture_packs
00:02	kaeza	oh crap wrong link
00:03	jojoa1997	!up diamondmining.no-ip.org 30000
00:04	jojoa1997	XD forgot no bots. i miss that one
00:04	kaeza	Cybersoft, just name it as default_cactus.png
00:04	kaeza	it can be any size
00:05	kaeza	preferably 1:1 suck as 16x16, 32x32, etc
00:05	kaeza	such*
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00:21	Oblivion1500	uhm hey guys, just going to tell you straight up im eating kangaroo
00:22	Oblivion1500	and its yummy
00:23	Zetetic	Oblivion1500: what's it most like?
00:23	Oblivion1500	its jerky
00:23	Oblivion1500	and its tougher than beef jerky
00:23	Zetetic	is it similar to cow jerky?
00:24	Zetetic	Hmm, I think beef jerky is chewy enough
00:24	Oblivion1500	not really its tough, like.... i dont know
00:24	Zetetic	Not an amazing recommendation :p
00:25	Oblivion1500	lol i like it
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00:25	Zetetic	Fair play to you :)
00:25	Oblivion1500	came from australia
00:25	Zetetic	I hope it's not quokka though
00:25	Zetetic	Those are too cute to be food
00:26	Oblivion1500	idk it just says kangaroo meat
00:26	Zetetic	Quokka is like a tiny kangaroo but isn't kangaroo(if you see what I mean)
00:26	Zetetic	But over here apparently beef can mean horse...
00:26	Oblivion1500	i know, my friend had one
00:27	Oblivion1500	it was so cute and would jump all around the house
00:27	Zetetic	Oh, do they like being pets?
00:27	Oblivion1500	yea this one was cool
00:27	Zetetic	Now I just need someone to smuggle me some...
00:27	Oblivion1500	lol
00:28	Zetetic	Or get a cat
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00:28	Octupus	Hi every1 im back for a bit
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00:28	Oblivion1500	i want a monkey
00:28	Oblivion1500	hello
00:28	Zetetic	They generally don't want to be pets
00:28	Oblivion1500	ill make it want to be a pet
00:29	Zetetic	Ominous
00:29	Oblivion1500	no
00:30	OldCoder	Oblivion1500, Hi
00:30	Oblivion1500	hey OldCoder!
00:30	Zetetic	"Beatings will continue until morale improves"
00:31	Oblivion1500	not by the money im alpha monkey
00:31	Cybersoft	cat can only have one feeling
00:31	Cybersoft	deep contempt for anything else than itself
00:32	Oblivion1500	thats ok ill eat a cat too
00:32	Octupus	Menche,if you need help in building il help build now if you want
00:32	Cybersoft	ie: if a cat was an astrophysicist it would says the universe revolves around itself
00:33	Oblivion1500	how do you know thats not true?
00:33	Menche	Octupus: ok
00:33	Menche	server back up
00:34	Cybersoft	well all the cats would be saying that
00:34	Menche	well, in a few seconds...
00:34	Cybersoft	you can't have N centers of the universe where N = the number of cats on the planet
00:34	Octupus	K menche
00:35	Oblivion1500	you can have C where C is = to that of the center of the universe and that being you. or ( Everything)
00:36	Zetetic	Every point in spacetime is the centre of the universe
00:36	Zetetic	Including those points occupied by cats
00:37	Oblivion1500	if that were true it would be easy as jumping to teliport
00:37	* Zetetic	backs away slowly
00:40	Cybersoft	so has any of you done any bigmap?
00:40	Cybersoft	I had a 24x24km map in minecraft, but it was taking 20gb on disk...
00:40	Cybersoft	I read that minetest has no depth limit, so I suppose it will be even worse?
00:41	RealBadAngel	if you will have such more spare time to fill it up? ;)
00:41	Cybersoft	well that was kinda the reason for switching, minecraft isn't very friendly when building big worlds
00:41	Cybersoft	even in worldedit it is very painful
00:42	Cybersoft	worldedit can't copy construction over 150*150*150 and you can't tell the engine the generate a canyon on the fly with a specific direction and specific depth
00:42	Menche	minetest has map limits: ~30000 in all directions
00:43	OldCoder	Hi
00:43	Menche	the map is a giant cube roughly 62,000x62,000x62,000
00:43	RealBadAngel	http://realbadangel.pl/almost.png
00:43	Cybersoft	so ~238000km^3 ?
00:43	RealBadAngel	i got the treegen textures and stuff almost ready
00:44	RealBadAngel	just some missing textures
00:44	RealBadAngel	as on the screenshot
00:44	Cybersoft	what about space on the disk if you have a map that big?
00:44	kaeza	Cybersoft, disk space is not a problem
00:44	Cybersoft	I can't imagine any hard drives being able to store it even if you used 1 bit per block
00:45	RealBadAngel	have you thought how many time it would take to explore such area? :)
00:45	Cybersoft	as this come to about  216 * 10^15 bits
00:45	kaeza	Cybersoft, 238000km=238000000m
00:45	RealBadAngel	just forget bout those "limits" hehehe
00:46	kaeza	Cybersoft, 238000000 / 1024 / 1024 / 1024 = ??Gb
00:46	Cybersoft	What i'd like to do is convert ad&d dungeons to minecraft / whatever
00:46	Cybersoft	238000km != 238000km^3
00:46	kaeza	Cybersoft, type
00:46	RealBadAngel	so just try to do that
00:46	kaeza	err
00:46	kaeza	double type
00:47	kaeza	triple typo
00:47	kaeza	lol
00:47	Cybersoft	minecraft always got in the way, what I would like is to draw a 2d map
00:47	Cybersoft	and have the game generate the 3d part
00:47	Cybersoft	then I would just have to tweak it / add monsters / etc
00:47	RealBadAngel	so use flat world
00:47	kaeza	Cybersoft, having a 2d (or height map) does not allow for caves, etc
00:48	Cybersoft	no, but for cubic dungeon it does the part
00:48	Cybersoft	*the work
00:48	Cybersoft	as for cave, maybe there could be some way to define to generate a random cave at this point or a random canyon with a certain depth and direction
00:49	Cybersoft	I wanted to do some sort of building generator too, you know the height, width and lenght, the game generate the rest including the rooms on each floor
00:50	Cybersoft	ie: I'd like some more building aids, that's all
00:51	Cybersoft	to do something with the scale of an mmorpg using procedural techniques
00:51	Cybersoft	ie: that zone is a seaport, so take the edges of the map near the water and build a sloped seafront with street lamps automatically
00:53	Octupus	Menche,damn so much lag
00:55	Octupus	Menche,I found guecity but its hiding from all the lagg xD
00:55	RealBadAngel	https://github.com/RealBadAngel/treegen
00:55	RealBadAngel	ive uploaded current state of treegen related stuff
00:56	RealBadAngel	tree spawners are there, planks, saplings
00:56	RealBadAngel	and fruits
00:57	RealBadAngel	missing just some textures, will make them later today
00:57	Cybersoft	btw, kudos to the developpers
00:57	Cybersoft	this is really stable for an open-source project and it is quite playable
00:58	RealBadAngel	try some OldCoders servers to play
00:58	Cybersoft	it's also very easy to define new blocks (unlike minecraft that requires decompilation/compilation and re-obfuscation)
00:58	RealBadAngel	http://minetest.org/
00:59	Menche	Octupus: poor ol' Pentium 4 :(   it used to work well...
00:59	Cybersoft	I'm reading the topic about cylinder and sphere blocks, and they seems to complain the building of the block being done with cubes by the engine
00:59	RealBadAngel	modding and coding the game is one of the reasons i moved to Minetest
00:59	Cybersoft	As I understand it, there is one model of block in the game and it is cube-based
01:00	RealBadAngel	but we do have nodeboxes also
01:00	RealBadAngel	read about them
01:00	Cybersoft	is that something I could maybe implement in the c++ code? being able to define a block based on a spherebox and all the basic meshes provided by the irrlicht engine?
01:01	RealBadAngel	i not quite sure if that would fit voxel world
01:01	RealBadAngel	its from definition a little squarish ;)
01:02	Cybersoft	yes I understand that, homewer some minecraft clones (still voxel worlds) uses them to allow the players to make towers, pipes and the likes
01:02	Octupus	menche i went back to the good server
01:02	RealBadAngel	we do also have some (almost) round stuffs
01:02	Octupus	because just to much lagg for me
01:03	RealBadAngel	depends on how much detailed nodebox is
01:03	Octupus	ohhh its down :/
01:03	Menche	Octupus: i just restarted it to backup the map
01:03	Menche	just in case the massive worledit goes wrong
01:03	Octupus	Ok
01:03	Cybersoft	but from what I understand from the thread it seems to be slow for making curves and the like, right?
01:03	RealBadAngel	i need a pause, goin to take a nap, then will finish the textures
01:04	Cybersoft	because it's based on building a sphere from little boxes
01:04	RealBadAngel	yes
01:04	Menche	Octupus: tis back up
01:04	Cybersoft	when you say it wouldn't fit in a voxel world, did you mean visually or as in the way the engine store information on the world?
01:08	RealBadAngel	visually
01:09	Octupus	Menche,can i load it ?
01:20	Menche	Octupus: the whole thing didn't save, should probably do it in sections
01:21	Octupus	k
01:21	Octupus	will you open the world in the fast pc
01:21	Octupus	or slow 1
01:22	Menche	fast one
01:22	Octupus	il just do it in the slow 1
01:22	Octupus	OOO ok
01:22	Octupus	il wait
01:22	* Menche	hopes minetest's required specs go back down
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01:25	Octupus	Menche,Shud we save it building by building or just half the whole wthing
01:26	Menche	i'm beginning to think building by building
01:26	Octupus	K thats a good idea
01:26	Octupus	but we got a serious problem
01:27	Menche	?
01:27	Octupus	the map is covered under dirt
01:27	Menche	oh, and worldedit doesn't save/load air, so we'll have to do some excavating
01:27	Octupus	:O
01:27	Menche	right
01:28	Octupus	Menche,maybe only the good building
01:28	Menche	yes
01:28	Octupus	the not so good looking 1's we can leave alone
01:28	Menche	how about i use what was transferred right to guess at the elevation
01:28	Menche	and we it down
01:28	Octupus	hmmm worth a try
01:29	Menche	i'll have to make sure glue city is all the same elevation
01:29	Octupus	ummm menche
01:29	Octupus	the whole city is made up in dirt :/
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01:47	Octupus	Menche,can you save my castle?
01:48	Octupus	wait nvm i dont want it to haunt me with its uglyness
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01:54	Octupus	Hi Lad
02:05	LAD	hey
02:07	Octupus	Menche,i got sealife cove
02:08	Menche	ok
02:08	Menche	im busy excavating glue cite Octupus
02:09	Menche	*city
02:09	Octupus	ok srry
02:09	Menche	im doing it manually 'cuz worldedit leaves weird lighting glitches
02:10	Octupus	:O
02:10	Menche	my theres a lot of dirt to dig out
02:10	Octupus	i can help
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02:24	babyface1031	hi Dogzilla131
02:24	Dogzilla131	Hi babyface1031
02:27	Cybersoft	what do you mean by worldedit?
02:27	Cybersoft	there is one for minetest?
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02:32	kaeza	Cybersoft, yup :)
02:33	kaeza	dunno what MC worldedit works
02:33	kaeza	s/what/how/
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02:59	mauvebic	<Menche> im doing it manually 'cuz worldedit leaves weird lighting glitches : theres a fix light command i think
03:04	Menche	i don't see it anymore
03:04	Menche	anyway, i tried a //light command at one point and it didn't work
03:06	mauvebic	thats like the rotate tool that only works 1/4 of the time for me lol
03:06	mauvebic	light works for me once every so tries lol
03:07	Menche	when I was rebuilding the spawn, it only saved 3/4 of the city hall on the first try
03:09	mauvebic	thats lua's garbage collection i'd guess - the array with the nodes gets too big before file writing
03:09	mauvebic	i had to come up with something different to save ships with 30K nodes lol
03:09	mauvebic	maxed out around 47K
03:12	Menche	found a way to fix the lighting glitch: worldedit a bunch of superglowglass (from moreblocks) then remove it
03:13	mauvebic	i think replacing air with air would do it too?
03:13	Menche	well, it first occured because i replaced stone with air
03:13	mauvebic	youre excavating your spawn city too?
03:13	Menche	didn't need excavating
03:14	Menche	only glue city was flattened out before it was built
03:14	mauvebic	im digging under mine to add huge sublevels
03:14	* Menche	wonders where the name "glue city" came from, lol
03:15	mauvebic	the sky highway even connects to the underground highway lol
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03:16	mauvebic	alot of skyscrapers on pillars atm too lol
03:17	Menche	that the same world you've been posting occasional screenshots of? with the massive city?
03:17	mauvebic	yep, its about to get a whole lot more massive lol
03:18	Menche	how big is the file? my old server map was ~350 MB
03:18	Menche	backing it up was a bit of a pain, and it was impossible to /clearobjects lol
03:19	mauvebic	292
03:19	mauvebic	and clearobjects crashes every time lol
03:19	Cybersoft	menche: how big was your map?
03:19	mauvebic	i guess theres a limit on that lol
03:19	Cybersoft	ie: depth and area?
03:19	Menche	Cybersoft: i don't know
03:20	Menche	it wasn't all one solid cube, of course
03:20	Menche	running /clearobjects filled all my ram and swap then crashed, every time
03:21	Menche	4G of ram filled running it on a 350M map, wonder how /clearobjects works, used a lot of extra space
03:22	mauvebic	i think we need a per-chunk clearobjects
03:22	mauvebic	sounds like a runaway process otherwise
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03:24	Cybersoft	personally, what I think is needed is a good overview of the technology
03:24	Cybersoft	what is a voxel, what are chunks, how is the data stored, how many cubes are there per block etc
03:25	mauvebic	it took me a year to find out a chunk is 16^3 nodes lol
03:25	Menche	isn't a chunk called a mapblock in minetest?
03:26	Cybersoft	yes, but my point is that understanding the technology is important to be able to contribute
03:26	Menche	yes
03:26	Cybersoft	that would cover what techniques were used too, so peoples can read up on gpu gems, gamedev etc...
03:27	Cybersoft	and what the current issues / priorities are
03:27	Cybersoft	from a quick review of the topics it seem that the goal is to keep minetest playable on older computers, but a sizable amount of peoples wants shader / 3d models etc
03:30	Cybersoft	I heard about the documentation effort tomorrow and from the point of a newcomer those two overview topics should be covered
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04:01	Muadtralk1	goodbye #minetest
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04:22	Kacey	hey guys i am on my xbox
04:23	Kacey	hello?
04:23	Kacey	bbiab
04:24	kaeza	hey Kacey
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04:35	Infinity_69	hi guys
04:35	Infinity_69	i have some bad news
04:35	Menche	hi
04:36	Infinity_69	my dad wants me to go to rehab
04:36	Infinity_69	and thats where things get fun
04:36	Infinity_69	i wont go, instead im going to another city
04:36	Infinity_69	:D
04:37	Infinity_69	im gonna go live with my mom...
04:37	Infinity_69	Kaeza, yes, i WILL forgive her...
04:37	Infinity_69	and ill take back EVERY bad thing i ever said to/about her
04:37	Infinity_69	btw, menche
04:37	Infinity_69	do you wanna be a Pre-Alpha tester?
04:38	Menche	of what?
04:38	Infinity_69	for my program
04:38	Infinity_69	HVGaming Portable
04:38	Infinity_69	it isnt quite done yet, but its still a pre alpha
04:39	Menche	what is it?
04:39	Infinity_69	its a program made in Gambas 3
04:39	Infinity_69	:D
04:39	Infinity_69	it took me hours to make :D
04:39	Infinity_69	and alot of code :/
04:45	Infinity_69	menche
04:45	Infinity_69	its done
04:45	Infinity_69	:)
04:45	Infinity_69	wait a sec
04:45	Infinity_69	oh, btw, now its an alpha
04:45	Infinity_69	0.1.0
04:45	Infinity_69	yay :)
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04:51	Infinity_69	Nikondork_
04:52	Infinity_69	do you wanna be an Alpha tester?
04:52	Nikondork_	pardon?
04:52	Infinity_69	i made a portable version of my website
04:52	Infinity_69	do you want to test it?
04:53	Infinity_69	there are currently versions for 2 op.systems
04:53	Infinity_69	Debian & Ubuntu
04:53	Nikondork_	I'll pass
04:53	Infinity_69	ok :/
04:53	Infinity_69	Menche
04:53	Nikondork_	why are you going to rehab?
04:53	Infinity_69	how did you know?
04:53	Infinity_69	oh...
04:53	Infinity_69	the _...
04:53	Infinity_69	you lagged out huh
04:53	Infinity_69	:/
04:54	Infinity_69	well, my dad thinks im addicted to computers
04:54	Infinity_69	so he's sending me to rehab :/
04:54	Nikondork_	oh
04:55	Infinity_69	but why dont you <:?
04:55	Nikondork_	here I thought it was something drug related and serious
04:55	Infinity_69	i got it :D
04:55	Infinity_69	no, no :D
04:55	Infinity_69	he's okay with me doing drugs
04:55	Infinity_69	hes a drug addict himself
04:55	Dogzilla131	kaeza
04:55	Nikondork	lovely
04:55	Infinity_69	hi Kaeza
04:55	Infinity_69	thanks
04:55	Infinity_69	i thiught you'd like it :D
04:55	Infinity_69	hi DogZilla
04:56	Infinity_69	hey dawg, you wanna test my portable, light-weight utility?
04:56	kaeza	Nikondork, ??
04:56	Nikondork	??
04:57	Infinity_69	kaeza
04:57	Infinity_69	i made a program
04:57	Infinity_69	its called the HVGaming Portable
04:57	Infinity_69	you wanna test it?
04:58	Infinity_69	i even made an instalation package :D
05:00	Infinity_69	how did my app get in the Ubuntu SW Center?
05:01	Infinity_69	srsly :/
05:01	Infinity_69	wait...
05:01	Infinity_69	so thats how the .deb works eh?
05:01	Infinity_69	http://hvgaming.bugs3.com/portable
05:01	Infinity_69	go there :d
05:07	kaeza	^^^^^
05:07	kaeza	?
05:08	Infinity_69	hi kaeza
05:08	Infinity_69	please try out my portable version :D
05:13	Infinity_69	KAEZA?!?!
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05:16	Kacey	hello
05:17	Menche	hi
05:17	Infinity_69	kacey
05:17	Kacey	i am on my xbox :p
05:17	Infinity_69	can you be a alpha tester?
05:17	Infinity_69	oh
05:17	Infinity_69	FuCK
05:17	Infinity_69	sorry...
05:17	Infinity_69	Menche
05:17	Kacey	haha ya my laptop stoped working for a while
05:18	Infinity_69	well, thats what you get if you have windows/mac
05:18	Kacey	afk
05:18	Infinity_69	UBUNTUFTW
05:18	Infinity_69	keyboard?
05:18	Infinity_69	:D
05:18	Infinity_69	afgp maybe
05:18	Infinity_69	Away From Gamepad
05:18	Kacey	haha
05:18	Kacey	but seriously
05:20	Infinity_69	Menche /ignore 'd me, didnt he >:o
05:20	Menche	?
05:20	Menche	there's only .debs
05:21	Infinity_69	yeah :/
05:21	Infinity_69	i didnt make them
05:21	Infinity_69	GB3 did
05:21	Infinity_69	Gambas 3
05:22	Infinity_69	you want the SC?
05:22	Infinity_69	the Source Code
05:23	Menche	ok
05:23	Infinity_69	then wait
05:24	Infinity_69	ok go there again
05:24	Infinity_69	to ./downloads
05:24	Kacey	back
05:24	Kacey	btw im using a chatpad
05:24	Infinity_69	ok :D
05:24	Menche	hi Kacey
05:25	* Kacey	is going to heaven because of xbox lie
05:25	Kacey	live, even
05:26	Infinity_69	menche, done?
05:26	kaeza	I'm chatting through my toaster, so?
05:26	Infinity_69	Menche, just asking, are you russian?
05:26	Menche	Infinity_69 i extracted one of the .debs
05:26	Menche	and no
05:26	Infinity_69	cause Menche reminds me of the word Less
05:26	* Kacey	chats through chuck norris
05:26	Infinity_69	that is spelled like Menche
05:26	Infinity_69	:D
05:27	* Infinity_69	chats throught HVGaming Portable
05:27	Infinity_69	Menche
05:27	Infinity_69	you dont extract a .deb
05:27	Infinity_69	you open it
05:27	Infinity_69	>:/
05:27	Infinity_69	with the Ubuntu SW center
05:27	Infinity_69	dumbass...
05:27	Menche	a .deb is an archive that can be extracted
05:28	kaeza	*Chuck Norris does not use a computer to chat. he stares at the bytes and they run to deliver the message
05:28	Infinity_69	but its an installer1
05:28	Menche	ubuntu sw center is, well, only on ubuntu
05:28	Infinity_69	:D
05:28	Menche	and it is also an archive
05:28	Infinity_69	you dont use ubuntu?
05:28	Menche	Arch FTW!
05:28	Infinity_69	there isnt a version for that yert
05:28	Infinity_69	yet*
05:28	Infinity_69	only Debian & Ubuntu
05:28	Infinity_69	sorry...
05:28	Infinity_69	maybe compile it?
05:29	Infinity_69	from the sc
05:29	Menche	gambas seems to be a scripting language. it will run on anything with a gambas runtime
05:29	Infinity_69	rly?
05:29	Menche	there was a .gambas file in the .deb
05:29	Infinity_69	hm... :/
05:29	Menche	it runs
05:29	Infinity_69	yes
05:29	Infinity_69	it works?
05:29	Menche	yes
05:29	Infinity_69	oh, then its cool :D
05:29	Menche	and btw, a binary compiled on Ubuntu will likely run on any other Linux, and vice versa
05:30	Kacey	brb again
05:30	Infinity_69	hey what should i include in the documentary except the Licence and the Current Version?
05:30	Kacey	nvm bbl
05:30	Infinity_69	LAWL
05:30	Infinity_69	xD
05:31	Infinity_69	Menche
05:31	kaeza	it's funny seeing Menche talking to himself
05:31	Infinity_69	what should i add?
05:31	Infinity_69	or kaeza
05:31	kaeza	oh right
05:31	Infinity_69	what should i add there
05:31	Menche	?
05:31	Infinity_69	:D
05:31	kaeza	I /ignored Infinity_69
05:31	kaeza	lol
05:31	Infinity_69	I dont always get /ignore 'd, but when i do, its by Kaeza
05:32	kaeza	nope
05:32	kaeza	It's by everyone here
05:32	kaeza	(BTW I just /unignored you)
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05:32	* Infinity_69	doesnt always have sex. But when he does, he's hand is he's friend.
05:34	Infinity_69	i dont always get punk'd, but when i do, its by Barrack Obama
05:34	kaeza	Infinity_69 does not always use the "I don't always..." guy, but when he does, he says nonsense
05:35	Infinity_69	Yo dawg, i herd you like  "I don't always..." so i put an "I don't always..." in an "I don't always..." so you can always while you always
05:35	* Menche	is allergic to stupid memes
05:36	* Infinity_69	punches Menche, because he's name looks russian...
05:37	kaeza	accualy is +qolan
05:37	Infinity_69	what?!
05:37	Infinity_69	btw, kaeza, what does Menche mean in russian?
05:39	Infinity_69	my website is AOK :D
05:40	Infinity_69	how do i set a charset?
05:40	Infinity_69	<meta charset=URF-8>?
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05:48	Infinity_69	TheZenKitteh
05:48	Infinity_69	try out my new look
05:48	Infinity_69	http://hvgaming.bugs3.com
05:49	TheZenKitteh	matrix colors lol
05:51	TheZenKitteh	I've redone my industrial mods textures and testing them out
05:54	Infinity_69	oh and hover the links, TheZenKitteh
05:54	Infinity_69	the fb, tw and steam logos :d
05:59	* OldCoder	will return in a little while
06:04	Infinity_69	Is anybody there?
06:05	TheZenKitteh	no
06:05	TheZenKitteh	lol
06:06	Infinity_69	TheZenKitteh
06:06	Infinity_69	Do you love Facebook?
06:06	TheZenKitteh	Infinity_69
06:06	TheZenKitteh	no I don't use facebook
06:06	TheZenKitteh	I have my own name for it.. fackf*ck
06:06	TheZenKitteh	facef*ck*
06:06	Infinity_69	Then own a piece of it here
06:06	Infinity_69	http://openbook.etoro.com/facebook?dl=30000305&amp;utm_medium=Media&amp;utm_source=705&amp;utm_content=3835&amp;utm_serial=AN737368.aspx&amp;utm_campaign=AN737368.aspx&amp;utm_term=#/overview/
06:07	Infinity_69	starts as low as $50 a piece
06:07	* TheZenKitteh	doesn't want facef*ck
06:07	Infinity_69	and look how low the stats are xD
06:07	TheZenKitteh	if I wanted a facef*ck id go to a gay bar
06:07	TheZenKitteh	lol
06:08	Infinity_69	hey do you play OA?
06:08	TheZenKitteh	OA?
06:08	Infinity_69	Open Arena
06:08	Infinity_69	0.8.8
06:08	TheZenKitteh	sounds familiar but no
06:08	Infinity_69	http://www.moddb.com/games/openarena/downloads/openarena-088-full-version
06:08	Infinity_69	go
06:08	Infinity_69	download
06:09	Infinity_69	its like Quake arena
06:09	Infinity_69	but free and open source
06:09	Infinity_69	Open Arena
06:09	TheZenKitteh	never played quake
06:09	Infinity_69	get it/
06:09	Infinity_69	LAWL
06:09	Infinity_69	even Quake Live?
06:09	TheZenKitteh	nope
06:09	TheZenKitteh	I've played blood
06:09	TheZenKitteh	released 1998
06:09	Infinity_69	ok, idk wtf is blood...
06:09	Infinity_69	xD
06:09	Infinity_69	like DOOM?!
06:10	TheZenKitteh	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVWw4oPjA40
06:11	Infinity_69	i saw it
06:11	Infinity_69	and i remember that :D
06:11	Infinity_69	i died near the cemetary
06:11	Infinity_69	xD
06:12	TheZenKitteh	I got pretty far in it
06:12	TheZenKitteh	rather fun
06:12	TheZenKitteh	lol
06:14	Infinity_69	hey
06:14	TheZenKitteh	I've also played and beat hexxen
06:14	Infinity_69	idk what that is eitherNO LONKS!
06:14	Infinity_69	hey TheZenKitteh
06:14	Infinity_69	I love you
06:14	Infinity_69	no-homo
06:14	TheZenKitteh	whatsa lonk?
06:14	TheZenKitteh	lol I love you too.. yes homo?
06:15	Infinity_69	link
06:15	Infinity_69	no-homo!
06:15	TheZenKitteh	hexxen was fun
06:15	TheZenKitteh	hard but fun
06:15	Infinity_69	well how about Super Meat Boy?
06:15	TheZenKitteh	nope
06:15	TheZenKitteh	I've not played many games
06:15	TheZenKitteh	lol
06:18	Infinity_69	well the IG
06:18	TheZenKitteh	I should not have watched this video
06:18	Infinity_69	Impossible Game
06:18	Infinity_69	xD
06:18	TheZenKitteh	lol
06:18	Infinity_69	i know a video that will cheer you up
06:18	Infinity_69	wait here
06:18	Infinity_69	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBCjejaZbJo
06:18	TheZenKitteh	if curious youtube search for daveywaveyraw penis docking.. no nudity but totally adult topic
06:19	TheZenKitteh	lol seen it before
06:20	Infinity_69	really?
06:20	Infinity_69	fuck...
06:21	Infinity_69	http://youtu.be/oBCjejaZbJo?t=2m
06:21	Infinity_69	look
06:21	TheZenKitteh	I've been meaning to watch full metal jacket but never gota round to it
06:21	TheZenKitteh	seen it too
06:21	TheZenKitteh	one thing I have done is watch a LOT of videos
06:21	Infinity_69	fuck...
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06:22	Infinity_69	hey i wanna see Obama do those flips
06:22	Infinity_69	is there a seperate video?
06:22	TheZenKitteh	im probably within top ten of those who has watched the most youtube videos
06:22	TheZenKitteh	on my old account I think I had watched over 100K videos since I got that account
06:22	TheZenKitteh	lol
06:24	TheZenKitteh	lol drill sergeants
06:25	Infinity_69	did you know...
06:26	Infinity_69	wait let me start again...
06:26	Infinity_69	Hey Guys!
06:26	Infinity_69	did You Know...
06:26	Infinity_69	that Here, In Estonia
06:26	Infinity_69	there's an energy drink
06:26	Infinity_69	named Hustler
06:26	Infinity_69	xD
06:27	Infinity_69	*Spongebob makes a hand wave over his head*
06:27	Infinity_69	Nobody Cares
06:27	TheZenKitteh	lol there's an energy drink here in america with bob marleys face on it
06:27	TheZenKitteh	could be a relaxation drink don't remember
06:27	TheZenKitteh	seen it once
06:28	Infinity_69	lol :D
06:30	Infinity_69	http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eivNS2snTU0/TaIez-JGYtI/AAAAAAAABw4/J4fUQ9X_dOQ/s1600/marleysmellowmood.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.possessedbycaffeine.com/2011/04/marleys-mellow-mood-relaxation-drink.html&amp;h=350&amp;w=350&amp;sz=30&amp;tbnid=Bg-durFv8mfZvM:&amp;tbnh=90&amp;tbnw=90&amp;zoom=1&amp;usg=__cGG7g6-DbDsa3QTlsPLUqzu8_0A=&amp;docid=vcAzv0qU5ZEgeM&amp;hl=et&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=Uj36UPXIHYbB0gWknYD4DA&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=0CDkQ9QEwAw&amp;dur=312http://www.go
06:30	Infinity_69	you mean this one?
06:31	TheZenKitteh	yea
06:31	TheZenKitteh	lol
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06:52	Infinity_69	hey is there somebody that is "Online" all the time?
06:52	Infinity_69	i need somebody to guard my channel
06:52	TheZenKitteh	that's where bots come in
06:52	Infinity_69	#hvgaming
06:52	Infinity_69	well who will host them?
06:53	Infinity_69	all the time = 24/7
06:54	Infinity_69	hey...
06:54	Infinity_69	is it possible to run a bot throught a php script that ran on a website?
06:56	Infinity_69	kaeza
06:56	Infinity_69	im making a bot :d
06:56	Infinity_69	that will guard/keep open/log the channel
06:56	Infinity_69	#hvgaming
06:56	Infinity_69	umm...
06:57	Infinity_69	how do i connect it?
06:58	OldCoder	hi
06:58	OldCoder	VanessaE, awake?
06:58	Infinity_69	OC
06:58	OldCoder	Folks
06:58	Infinity_69	help me please?
06:58	OldCoder	I wish to disable conifers
06:58	OldCoder	Infinity_69, what do you need?
06:58	Infinity_69	http://www.wildphp.com/
06:58	OldCoder	no time to go elsewhere
06:58	OldCoder	Infinity_69, what do you need?
06:58	Infinity_69	how do i connect the bot to a channel?
06:59	OldCoder	That is usually in a configuration
06:59	OldCoder	file
06:59	OldCoder	For the bot
06:59	Infinity_69	its a php bot
06:59	Infinity_69	ok
06:59	OldCoder	You run it on a VPS
06:59	Infinity_69	let me see...
06:59	Infinity_69	no
06:59	Infinity_69	its on my website :/
06:59	OldCoder	Fine
06:59	Infinity_69	config.php?
06:59	OldCoder	Then you run it in a webhost
06:59	OldCoder	probably
06:59	OldCoder	probably config.php
06:59	* OldCoder	is shutting down worlds
07:00	OldCoder	anybody know about conifers?
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07:00	Infinity_69	http://hvgaming.bugs3.com/phpircbot/pogosheep-IRC-Bot-7c1fd3e/phpbot404.php
07:00	Infinity_69	look
07:00	OldCoder	I can't
07:00	OldCoder	go on
07:00	Infinity_69	an error
07:00	Infinity_69	why not?!
07:01	OldCoder	No time
07:01	Infinity_69	oh :/
07:01	OldCoder	Explain what you need
07:01	Infinity_69	theres an error!
07:01	Infinity_69	i dont understand!
07:01	OldCoder	What is the error?
07:01	OldCoder	Go on...
07:01	OldCoder	What is the error?
07:01	Infinity_69	Warning: Unexpected character in input: '\' (ASCII=92) state=1 in /home/u112478165/public_html/phpircbot/pogosheep-IRC-Bot-7c1fd3e/phpbot404.php on line 35
07:01	Infinity_69	Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING in /home/u112478165/public_html/phpircbot/pogosheep-IRC-Bot-7c1fd3e/phpbot404.php on line 35
07:02	OldCoder	Infinity_69, can you
07:02	OldCoder	post a ZIP file
07:02	OldCoder	containing that PHP file?
07:02	Infinity_69	umm...sure
07:02	OldCoder	I will review
07:02	Infinity_69	http://hvgaming.bugs3.com/phpircbot/
07:02	Infinity_69	the .zip is it
07:03	OldCoder	R
07:03	OldCoder	?!
07:04	OldCoder	Infinity_69, what OS are you running this on?
07:04	VanessaE	OldCoder: in moretrees, init.lua comment out lines 95 through 117.
07:04	OldCoder	Where did this code come from?
07:04	Infinity_69	on the bot?
07:04	VanessaE	that'll disable the conifers spawning abm.
07:04	OldCoder	VanessaE, k
07:04	Infinity_69	i said, that...wait
07:04	VanessaE	or lines 73 through 94 to disable the jungle trees.
07:04	Infinity_69	http://www.wildphp.com/
07:04	OldCoder	VanessaE, is there a problem with the jungle trees?
07:04	OldCoder	Infinity_69, what OS are you running this on?
07:04	Infinity_69	the server?
07:05	VanessaE	what has already been spawned will remain, and if someone plants a sapling, that will still grow eventually, but newly-spawned trees won't happen then.
07:05	OldCoder	Infinity_69, this code will not work
07:05	Infinity_69	i think its linux
07:05	OldCoder	Infinity_69, this code will not work
07:05	OldCoder	throw it away
07:05	Infinity_69	why
07:05	OldCoder	It is some weird thing
07:05	OldCoder	Not normal
07:05	OldCoder	Broken
07:05	OldCoder	Windows
07:05	Infinity_69	>:/
07:05	Infinity_69	oh
07:05	OldCoder	Throw it away
07:05	OldCoder	Sorry
07:05	VanessaE	OldCoder: nothing that isn't wrong with conifers e.g. people I guess don't like the idea of moving their structures away from the spawn areas :-)
07:05	Infinity_69	so it needs windows?
07:05	OldCoder	VanessaE, people say they don't decay!
07:05	OldCoder	Infinity_69, Apparently
07:05	OldCoder	Or something else
07:05	OldCoder	Infinity_69, the code has \ in it
07:06	OldCoder	This is not normal PHP
07:06	Infinity_69	yeah i saw that :/
07:06	OldCoder	I don't know what it is but it won't work!
07:06	OldCoder	Throw it away
07:06	Infinity_69	btw, is it possible to run a irc bot on a website and will it work?
07:06	OldCoder	Infinity_69, I don't quite understand
07:06	Infinity_69	explain...
07:06	VanessaE	OldCoder: strange, because leaf decay is still enabled for them
07:06	OldCoder	Infinity_69, I don't quite understand
07:06	Infinity_69	when i upload a irc bot...
07:06	OldCoder	VanessaE, they say no decay
07:06	Infinity_69	to my website
07:06	VanessaE	note that afaik conifers drop items to the ground on decay
07:06	Infinity_69	and go to a .php script...
07:07	Infinity_69	it will start...
07:07	Infinity_69	right?
07:07	OldCoder	VanessaE, PM
07:07	Infinity_69	then could the php script
07:07	kaeza	VanessaE, can you make conifers behave like the normal trees?
07:07	Infinity_69	connect to a irc channel
07:07	VanessaE	kaeza: behave in what way?
07:07	VanessaE	Infinity_69: stay on topic please.
07:07	kaeza	in that only saplings are dropped
07:07	Infinity_69	what?
07:07	kaeza	not leaves
07:07	VanessaE	and NO BOTS
07:07	Infinity_69	i am
07:07	Infinity_69	btw, OldCoder
07:07	VanessaE	kaeza: yeah that's possible, I just never though to do that
07:07	Infinity_69	can you host a bot for me maybe?
07:08	Infinity_69	it would be easier
07:08	Infinity_69	:)
07:08	Infinity_69	cause i see you online all the time :D
07:08	Infinity_69	you never leave
07:08	Infinity_69	you..ugh...
07:08	OldCoder	Infinity_69, Not in the near future
07:08	Infinity_69	oh...
07:08	OldCoder	I have some things coming up
07:08	Infinity_69	VanessaE?
07:08	Infinity_69	maybe you?
07:09	VanessaE	NO BOTS!
07:09	Infinity_69	not here
07:09	Infinity_69	on my channel
07:09	Infinity_69	#hvgaming
07:09	VanessaE	(and no, I can't and won't host one)
07:09	Infinity_69	so that it could be online all the time
07:09	Infinity_69	why not?
07:09	Infinity_69	OC
07:09	Infinity_69	maybe you could be on the server with OP priv...
07:10	Infinity_69	just like you are here :)
07:10	Infinity_69	OldCoder
07:10	OldCoder	Infinity_69, Hi
07:10	Infinity_69	maybe you could be on the server with OP priv...
07:10	Infinity_69	just like you are here :)
07:10	OldCoder	Infinity_69, I am fixing my worlds ATM
07:10	Infinity_69	oh :/
07:11	OldCoder	Infinity_69, I need to work on the worlds right now
07:11	OldCoder	So you and others can play
07:11	Infinity_69	ok
07:13	VanessaE	Infinity_69: please stop flooding.
07:13	Infinity_69	im not
07:13	Infinity_69	VanessaE
07:13	Infinity_69	could you
07:13	Infinity_69	WAIT NO
07:13	OldCoder	??
07:15	Infinity_69	OldCoder, help me <:"(
07:15	Infinity_69	VanessaE wants to +q/+b me <:"(
07:16	VanessaE	Infinity_69: you are jabbering on about this hvgaming thing, bots, and other stuff unrelated to MT.
07:17	Infinity_69	still... :/
07:17	VanessaE	this is offtopic and annoying because you're barely giving anyone else room to talk.
07:17	Infinity_69	where should i ask for help then?
07:17	OldCoder	Hi
07:17	OldCoder	Infinity_69, You can PM me
07:17	OldCoder	In a few minutes
07:17	OldCoder	not right now
07:17	Infinity_69	ok
07:18	Infinity_69	say when
07:18	OldCoder	Few minutes wait please
07:18	OldCoder	k
07:18	OldCoder	Infinity_69, let me finish world updates
07:18	kaeza	http://blog.cheezburger.com/community/celebrate-internet-freedom-day/
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07:30	VanessaE	anyone feel like looking at some slow code and offering some speedups? ;-)
07:30	Infinity_69	nope!
07:31	VanessaE	:P
07:32	Infinity_69	<:P
07:32	Infinity_69	>:P
07:32	Infinity_69	<
07:32	Infinity_69	>
07:32	Infinity_69	>
07:32	Infinity_69	<
07:32	Infinity_69	>
07:32	Infinity_69	<
07:32	Infinity_69	>
07:32	Infinity_69	<
07:32	Infinity_69	>
07:32	Infinity_69	<
07:32	Infinity_69	>
07:32	Infinity_69	<
07:32	Infinity_69	>
07:32	Infinity_69	<
07:32	TheZenKitteh	FLOOD DETECTED
07:32	Infinity_69	yeah, no shit sherlock!
07:33	TheZenKitteh	BEGINNING SELF DESTRUCT MODE
07:33	Infinity_69	rowling.freenode.net- *** Message to #minetest throttled due to flooding
07:33	* TheZenKitteh	pulls out a nuke
07:33	* TheZenKitteh	sets timer
07:33	* Infinity_69	has just shot TheZenKitteh
07:33	TheZenKitteh	5
07:33	TheZenKitteh	4
07:33	TheZenKitteh	...
07:33	* Infinity_69	shoots the nuke
07:33	Infinity_69	1!!!!
07:33	* TheZenKitteh	fuse FAILs
07:33	* Infinity_69	BOOM
07:34	* markveidemanis	Pulls out a Bazooka
07:34	* markveidemanis	kills everyone
07:34		Infinity_69 was kicked by VanessaE: STOP FLOODING
07:34		Infinity_69 joined #minetest
07:34	markveidemanis	He's using some 3G
07:34	* Infinity_69	hates VanessaE, because she is a total Bi*ch
07:35	markveidemanis	+b...
07:35	Infinity_69	and you use 1g xD
07:35	markveidemanis	4G!
07:35	VanessaE	my husband and most everyone else here would disagree with you, Infinity_69.
07:35	Infinity_69	the 1st generation connection :D
07:35	Infinity_69	see mark?
07:35	Infinity_69	wait what?!
07:35	Infinity_69	i mis-read it
07:35	Infinity_69	i hoped for this
07:36	* Infinity_69	hoped "<@VanessaE> my husband and most everyone else here would agree with you, Infinity_69."
07:36	VanessaE	*dis*agree.
07:36	Infinity_69	**Agree
07:36	Infinity_69	xD
07:36	TheZenKitteh	I like vanessae
07:36	TheZenKitteh	lol
07:36	* Infinity_69	agrees with /me
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07:37		iHateVanessaE joined #minetest
07:37	iHateVanessaE	i hate you, bitch!
07:37	iHateVanessaE	i hate you!
07:37	iHateVanessaE	i didnt choose this1
07:37	iHateVanessaE	its time to play something!
07:37	* VanessaE	grumbles.
07:37	* TheZenKitteh	+b ihatevanessa.. o wait not an op here
07:37	iHateVanessaE	yeah, no shit, sherlock!
07:37		iHateVanessaE was kicked by VanessaE: iHateVanessaE
07:38	VanessaE	bye bye.
07:38	TheZenKitteh	lol
07:38	markveidemanis	HAHA
07:39	OldCoder	Oh Lord
07:40	markveidemanis	what was his name?
07:40	markveidemanis	The spammer
07:40	TheZenKitteh	infinity_69
07:40	VanessaE	Infinity_69.
07:40	markveidemanis	k
07:40	markveidemanis	/mode #minetest +b shows it
07:41	markveidemanis	But dont *enquieten* the channel like last time... :D
07:41	TheZenKitteh	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5Izm1LQfw4
07:41	markveidemanis	== #minetest *!*MarkBot@*.197.127.128.threembb.co.uk thexyz!~xyzminetest.ru 1357582629
07:41	markveidemanis	^ Why?
07:41	OldCoder	TheZenKitteh, I am updating Industrial
07:42	OldCoder	and more stuff
07:42	TheZenKitteh	cool ty
07:42	markveidemanis	ansl moltenbot is quiet
07:42	OldCoder	No, ty
07:44	OldCoder	O.K. I am removing conifers, stopping jungle trees from spawning, updating Industrial
07:44	OldCoder	Anything else?
07:45	* OldCoder	assumes not
07:45	markveidemanis	Wait...
07:45	markveidemanis	Mods list plz
07:45	OldCoder	?
07:45	OldCoder	Where?
07:45	Oblivion1500	oh hey, its mark
07:45	OldCoder	http://minetest.org/
07:45	markveidemanis	MarkTwain
07:45	markveidemanis	k
07:45	OldCoder	Oblivion1500, got desired changes?
07:45	OldCoder	http://minetest.org/
07:45	OldCoder	Close to current
07:46	OldCoder	May be off slightly
07:46	Oblivion1500	uhm.. not now but when the lava suit is updated i will
07:46	OldCoder	http://minetest.org/modsets.html
07:46	markveidemanis	I need the list
07:47	Oblivion1500	what list?
07:47	Oblivion1500	ohhh
07:47	OldCoder	markveidemanis, ^
07:47	OldCoder	http://minetest.org/modsets.html
07:47	markveidemanis	smth.txt
07:47	OldCoder	?
07:47	Oblivion1500	you can download the modsets and your list is right there along with all the stuff
07:47	OldCoder	any more changes?
07:47	OldCoder	It is not current
07:47	OldCoder	But close
07:48	markveidemanis	http://minetest.org/[???].txt
07:48	OldCoder	No other changes?
07:48	Oblivion1500	what was just added Oldcoder?
07:48	OldCoder	??
07:48	OldCoder	I do not understand
07:48	OldCoder	Oblivion1500, Scroll up
07:48	OldCoder	Or did you just join?
07:48	markveidemanis	[???] - modslist or smth
07:49	OldCoder	markveidemanis, I do not understand at all
07:49	OldCoder	There is no more time
07:49	* OldCoder	proceeds
07:49	markveidemanis	Remove glooptest
07:50	OldCoder	Too late
07:50	OldCoder	I asked and asked
07:50	* OldCoder	sighs
07:50	Oblivion1500	he gave you the modlist but you can download all the mods he adds just by going to your server and downloading it. he doesent have a mod-list.txt just a source with all the mods
07:50	OldCoder	Wait, then
07:50	markveidemanis	Spleef things///
07:50	markveidemanis	...
07:50	OldCoder	?
07:50	OldCoder	What?
07:50	OldCoder	Do what?
07:50	OldCoder	Be specific
07:50	markveidemanis	Justnoticed the mod
07:50	* TheZenKitteh	will likely update other mods including industrial again sometime this coming week but unsure when. gonna try to do better textures for them all
07:51	markveidemanis	Remove glooptest
07:51	OldCoder	markveidemanis, fine
07:51	Oblivion1500	This is going to be interesting.....
07:51	markveidemanis	and cactusmod
07:51	OldCoder	markveidemanis, I keep asking
07:51	OldCoder	you
07:52	OldCoder	Make A List!
07:52	OldCoder	Too late
07:52	OldCoder	I have removed glooptest
07:52	OldCoder	I don't know what cactusmod is
07:52	markveidemanis	ok, the rest is no big deal
07:52	markveidemanis	It's fine
07:52	markveidemanis	have you updated mods?
07:52	OldCoder	?
07:52	OldCoder	Explain
07:52	OldCoder	Reword that
07:52	markveidemanis	Can you update Pipeworks?
07:52	OldCoder	I did
07:53	Oblivion1500	hey mark, when the server comes back up you should unprotect my house in the sky.. i cant do anything to it
07:53	markveidemanis	Ok
07:54	markveidemanis	il grant you as the owner
07:54	markveidemanis	and i thought i did...
07:54	Oblivion1500	i thought you did too, but i recently went to it and i cant touch anything
07:55	markveidemanis	il grant you as the owner this time
07:55	markveidemanis	not user
07:55	markveidemanis	so you can grant other peopleaccess to it
07:55	markveidemanis	people - access
07:56	Oblivion1500	great!
07:56	markveidemanis	but then can i access it...
07:56	markveidemanis	:D
07:56	markveidemanis	guess not...
07:56	markveidemanis	thats all later
07:56	Oblivion1500	just remove it.. if something happens i will rebuild
07:56	markveidemanis	For Future-Me to decide...
07:56	OldCoder	markveidemanis, removing glooptest broke your work
07:56	OldCoder	markveidemanis, removing glooptest broke your world *
07:56	OldCoder	Gems needs it
07:56	markveidemanis	Uh-Oh
07:56	OldCoder	wait
07:56	Oblivion1500	i knew it would
07:57	markveidemanis	Downgrade glooptest
07:57	OldCoder	Removing gems
07:57	markveidemanis	to gloopores
07:57	OldCoder	Will that help?
07:57	markveidemanis	oh, ok
07:57	markveidemanis	No, remove is fine
07:57	OldCoder	All set
07:57	markveidemanis	simpler.
07:57	OldCoder	head on in
07:57	markveidemanis	ok
07:57	OldCoder	See if conifers are gone
07:58	markveidemanis	The world has been very slightly slower
07:58	OldCoder	Hmm?
07:58	markveidemanis	Last Time
07:58	OldCoder	Better now?
07:58	markveidemanis	maybe better this time...
07:58	markveidemanis	idk, its loading
07:58	markveidemanis	on a slow computer...
07:58	markveidemanis	Zzz
07:59	markveidemanis	right, i think my server discussion should be on either: ##mtmarktwain #mtmarktwain #mtmt
08:00	OldCoder	markveidemanis, can't deal with the channels issue this weekend
08:00	markveidemanis	see on #mtmarktwain
08:00	OldCoder	no time
08:09	marktraceur	VanessaE: Sorry you had to endure the bullshit earlier
08:09	* marktraceur	will be around all tomorrow
08:09	* VanessaE	shrugs
08:09	VanessaE	no worried.
08:09	VanessaE	no worries either.
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08:10	marktraceur	And how.
08:11	sfan5	good morning everyone
08:11	marktraceur	markveidemanis: FYI I think you're throwing stones when you accuse someone of spamming etc.
08:11	VanessaE	good morning sfan5
08:11	TheZenKitteh	g'morning sfan5
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08:13	OldCoder	Hi
08:13	OldCoder	Am I visible?
08:13	TheZenKitteh	you were
08:15	kaeza	morning sfan5
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08:16	kaeza	wb OldCoder
08:17	Oblivion1500	what happened to you OldCoder?
08:17	OldCoder	Hi
08:17	OldCoder	Oblivion1500, network glitch
08:17	OldCoder	I think I'm back
08:18	OldCoder	restarting worlds again
08:18	Oblivion1500	ok
08:18	OldCoder	Need to retest shortly
08:18	TheZenKitteh	you seem back
08:18	OldCoder	Yep ty
08:18	TheZenKitteh	or im hallucinating
08:18	Oblivion1500	you want to run the clean mod?
08:18	OldCoder	k
08:18	OldCoder	It is in there
08:18	Oblivion1500	oh it can be done from in the world?
08:18	OldCoder	I do not understand
08:19	Oblivion1500	the clean up to get rid of unknowns
08:19	OldCoder	I do not understand
08:19	OldCoder	The mod is there
08:19	markveidemanis	how do i unprotect an area?
08:19	Oblivion1500	ok, so it should be able to be run from inside th game?
08:19	OldCoder	Oblivion1500, I do not understand
08:19	OldCoder	It runs automatically
08:20	Oblivion1500	? really because there are a bunch of unknown items everwhere..
08:20	OldCoder	You will need to identify them
08:20	markveidemanis	no, you need to set it up from the files and edit the init.lua file to remove the nodenames specified
08:20	OldCoder	Yes
08:20	OldCoder	Then it runs automatically
08:20	markveidemanis	can you go on #mtmarktwain
08:20	OldCoder	No
08:20	markveidemanis	i set it up
08:20	OldCoder	I cannot
08:21	OldCoder	There is no time
08:21	markveidemanis	#mtmt?
08:21	OldCoder	There is no time
08:21	markveidemanis	#mtmt ?
08:21	OldCoder	There is no time
08:21	markveidemanis	ok
08:21	markveidemanis	ok
08:21	Oblivion1500	oh damn, wel looks like im going to have to edit it for the glooptest remove ext
08:21	OldCoder	Proceed
08:22	markveidemanis	#mt-servers #mt-maps #mt-textures #mtmt #mtmarktwain ##mtmarktwain
08:22	markveidemanis	my channels:D
08:22	OldCoder	k
08:22	markveidemanis	can you check them?
08:22	OldCoder	?
08:22	Oblivion1500	there is no reason for all of that
08:22	OldCoder	Not now
08:22	markveidemanis	ok
08:23	OldCoder	12:22am
08:23	OldCoder	Work to do
08:23	Oblivion1500	you just need one.. there wont be that many people on your server just pick one and stick with it
08:23	OldCoder	markveidemanis, Oblivion1500 please reenter world
08:23	OldCoder	And see what has happened
08:23	OldCoder	I have redone
08:23	OldCoder	The build code
08:24	Oblivion1500	? what do you mean?
08:24	OldCoder
08:24	OldCoder	Just retest the world please
08:24	markveidemanis	:D
08:24	Oblivion1500	loading*
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08:26	Oblivion1500	im in, it seems to be faster now
08:26	OldCoder	See what needs to be fixed
08:27	markveidemanis	THE CONIFERS!!!
08:27	VanessaE	night all, I'm off to bed.
08:30	markveidemanis	OldCoder
08:30	markveidemanis	CONIFERS!!!
08:30	TheZenKitteh	night vanessae
08:30	OldCoder	Hi!
08:30	OldCoder	markveidemanis, they are supposed to be gone
08:31	markveidemanis	They're not...
08:31	OldCoder	Let me check
08:31	Oblivion1500	you took away more trees not the conifers, i think they are fine though
08:31	Oblivion1500	but thats just me
08:31	OldCoder	Oblivion1500, Conifers *are* More Trees now
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08:31	Jordach	yup..
08:31	markveidemanis	remove most things that add: entities or mapgen integration
08:31	Jordach	morning OldCoder
08:32	Oblivion1500	....
08:32	markveidemanis	aka animals
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08:32	OldCoder	Hi
08:32	* Jordach	sees two sfans, jordach dies
08:33	OldCoder	Oblivion1500, markveidemanis Conifer spawn is disabled
08:33	OldCoder	and markveidemanis your clean conifers is there
08:33	OldCoder	What is next?
08:34	markveidemanis	jungle grass
08:34	markveidemanis	and animals
08:34	OldCoder	Make a list
08:34	OldCoder	I will NOT do this piecemeal
08:34	OldCoder	I think we are done for the night
08:34	OldCoder	markveidemanis, the modset
08:34	OldCoder	list is updated
08:34	OldCoder	http://minetest.org/modsets.html
08:35	TheZenKitteh	btw to note oldcoder
08:35	OldCoder	?
08:35	TheZenKitteh	raphael should be in all caps
08:35	OldCoder	k
08:35	TheZenKitteh	it stands for something
08:35	TheZenKitteh	lol
08:35	TheZenKitteh	of course I won't say
08:36	OldCoder	TheZenKitteh, patched for next time
08:36	TheZenKitteh	k ty
08:37	markveidemanis	#mt-servers #mt-maps #mt-textures #mtmt #mtmarktwain
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08:47	TheZenKitteh	( | ) ( / ) ( | ) ( \ ) ( | )
08:48	* TheZenKitteh	makes random statement.. shin-chan
08:48	* TheZenKitteh	ends random statement
08:57	markveidemanis	<random>
08:57	markveidemanis	Moo
08:57	markveidemanis	</random>
08:58	TheZenKitteh	hey that's my line lol
08:58	markveidemanis	its time for me to type /quit
08:58	markveidemanis	</quit?
08:58	markveidemanis	>
08:58	markveidemanis	<spam/>
08:58	markveidemanis	ready?
08:58	markveidemanis	<<.>>spamm>
08:58	TheZenKitteh	lol
08:58	TheZenKitteh	*quit*
08:59	markveidemanis	<.SPAM>
08:59	TheZenKitteh	er *qooit*
08:59	markveidemanis	</spam>
08:59	TheZenKitteh	moo?
08:59	TheZenKitteh	maw?
08:59	markveidemanis	MOOOO
08:59	TheZenKitteh	ror
08:59	markveidemanis	wanna spam #mtmt?
08:59	markveidemanis	Go on...
08:59	TheZenKitteh	na
08:59	markveidemanis	its my channel
08:59	TheZenKitteh	sodium
08:59	markveidemanis	Na
08:59	markveidemanis	Haha
09:00	markveidemanis	k
09:00	markveidemanis	see ya
09:00	markveidemanis	k
09:00	markveidemanis	pottasium
09:00	TheZenKitteh	audios
09:00	TheZenKitteh	not spelled right ims ure
09:00	markveidemanis	potassium
09:00	TheZenKitteh	helium
09:00	markveidemanis	#mt-servers #mt-maps #mt-textures #mtmt #mtmarktwain
09:00	markveidemanis	whoops paste
09:01	* OldCoder	is resting
09:01	OldCoder	markveidemanis, a bit more on topic and less floody please
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09:01	* TheZenKitteh	is insane
09:01	TheZenKitteh	to many at least
09:01	TheZenKitteh	to me im perfectly sane
09:01	markveidemanis	ok
09:03	markveidemanis	all test minetest.org 30010
09:03	* TheZenKitteh	is rebellious and refuses
09:03	OldCoder	markveidemanis, make lists of changes
09:03	OldCoder	Zzz
09:03	markveidemanis	ZZZzzZzzZZZzzzz..
09:05	markveidemanis	r
09:05	markveidemanis	Test My Server!
09:06	markveidemanis	pLZ.
09:07	* TheZenKitteh	opens minecraft and puts in your server info
09:07	TheZenKitteh	hurr derr
09:08	TheZenKitteh	actually I can't open minetest right now
09:08	markveidemanis	I see you joining!
09:08	TheZenKitteh	too much running
09:08	TheZenKitteh	lol
09:08	TheZenKitteh	when I run minetest it must be virtually only thing running or it faels
09:09	markveidemanis	then close everything
09:09	markveidemanis	:D
09:09	TheZenKitteh	minetest could use a lot more optimization
09:09	TheZenKitteh	can't right now
09:09	TheZenKitteh	lol
09:11	markveidemanis	then who can
09:11	markveidemanis	im gonnna message random people
09:12	markveidemanis	join me on minetest.org port 30010
09:12	markveidemanis	copy...
09:13	Jordach	john_minetest, /ignore is your friend
09:15	markveidemanis	i dont have it!
09:15	markveidemanis	why
09:16	markveidemanis	"Come on my server at minetest.org 30010!!!".
09:16	markveidemanis	good template
09:16	markveidemanis	so will you?:D
09:17	TheZenKitteh	come to mah server at google.com port 9001 !!!!!!??!!!!
09:17	TheZenKitteh	o wait
09:17	TheZenKitteh	lol
09:18	TheZenKitteh	must note if google hosted a minetest server minetest would become an instant celebrity
09:19	markveidemanis	EVENT: SPLEEF ARENA
09:19	markveidemanis	NEEDS CONSTRUCTION
09:20	markveidemanis	WHY?
09:23	Jordach	TheZenKitteh, haha
09:23	Jordach	they probably do on port <something i dont know of yet>
09:25	TheZenKitteh	lol
09:25	markveidemanis	"I need someone to help me with my spleef on my server minetest.org:30010"
09:26	markveidemanis	and i updated forum topic
09:34	markveidemanis	j
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09:41	markveidemanis	"I need someone to help me with my spleef on <server> <ip>"
09:41	markveidemanis	whoops
09:41	markveidemanis	DAMMIT!
09:41	markveidemanis	"I need someone to help me with my spleef on my server minetest.org:30010"
09:41	markveidemanis	uh-oh
09:42	markveidemanis	internet
09:44	TheZenKitteh	irony
09:44	TheZenKitteh	what he so wanted.. he got.. but couldn't be there to see it
09:47	TheZenKitteh	probably
09:59	sfan5	tip for building minetest: install tcc and pass "-DCMAKE_COMPILER=`which tcc`" to cmake, this will makre compliation of lua and sqlite faster
09:59	sfan5	-r
10:06	TheZenKitteh	well im over and out
10:06	TheZenKitteh	ta ta
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10:09	sfan5	lol, someone with a playstation 3 visited my website
10:10	sfan5	and he/she came from japan :O
10:21	sfan5	!wik MinetestWiki:TODO
10:21	sfan5	....
10:21	sfan5	i miss the bots
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10:25	kaeza	!g GIYF
10:25	kaeza	:)
10:27	celeron55	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4243 on http://dev.minetest.net/MinetestWiki:TODO and #minetest-doc now
10:27	celeron55	it's still very quiet regarding to this
10:30	celeron55	but i guess it's because the <=UTC-5 people haven't waken up yet 8)
10:31	sapier1	:-) celeron is there any way to decide wich "register_xxx" functions can only be called on startup?
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10:32	celeron55	sapier1: officially, all of them
10:32	celeron55	some might happen to work otherwise, but it's unintentional
10:32		MinetestBot joined #minetest
10:32	sapier1	ok
10:33	sfan5	MinetestBot: reload admin
10:33	MinetestBot	sfan5: <module 'admin' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/admin.py'> (version: 2013-01-19 10:34:57)
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10:36	sfan5	!wik MinetestWiki:TODO
10:36	MinetestBot	"There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/MinetestWiki:TODO
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11:24	Exio	markveidemanis was spamming.. his? server .. two hours ago
11:24	Exio	just for reporting, and hi
11:25	sfan5	hi
11:28	Oblivion1500	where is the TODO happening? on this chat or the dev chat?
11:34	sapier1	http://dev.minetest.net/Global_minetest_object I've added a page categorizing minetest objects what do you thing about it?
11:35	sapier1	minetest objects subelements to be precise
11:36	Oblivion1500	oh i like it
11:36	sapier1	Unsorted are functions I didn't know how to categorize
11:42	Oblivion1500	that still is some good work, i like it alot, i will be using that information more, thanks
11:43	sapier1	It's doc sprint if everyone does a little bit doc will be done soon
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11:46	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
11:46	klunk	hello !
11:48	Oblivion1500	morning
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12:04	klunk	have a good engine documentation day, :-)
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12:14	meldrian	Hello @ all, hello PilzAdam nice to see you, i got a question and hope you'll help me :)
12:15	PilzAdam	sure
12:15	Calinou	don't ask to ask :)
12:16	meldrian	i'd like to compile the latest developement version of minetest for my future videos. Is there a howto or something?
12:17	PilzAdam	the instuctions in the README are quite good for ubuntu
12:17	Calinou	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3837
12:17	Calinou	meldrian: ^
12:17	Calinou	(not for windows)
12:18	meldrian	great, thank you
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12:49	sfan5	voice MinetestBot
12:49	sfan5	...
12:50	sfan5	forgot /
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13:11	sapier1	VanessaE is your server still running?
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13:34	markveidemanis	What is with the forums
13:34	markveidemanis	i am SURE i edited my post
13:36	markveidemanis	FORUM MODERATORS...
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13:38	markveidemanis	!up 0283498574 30010
13:38	MinetestBot	markveidemanis: Invalid Address
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13:38	markveidemanis	Yep
13:38	markveidemanis	Just as i thought..
13:39	sfan5	markveidemanis: ummm...
13:39	markveidemanis	!up minetest.org 30000-30018
13:39	markveidemanis	can it test multiple ports?
13:39	MinetestBot	markveidemanis: minetest.org 30000-30018 seems to be down
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13:41	markveidemanis	!up google.com 9001
13:41	MinetestBot	markveidemanis: google.com 9001 seems to be down
13:41	markveidemanis	and why?
13:42	rubenwardy	hi
13:42	markveidemanis	that would be fast: a google server
13:42	rubenwardy	!up google.com 80
13:42	sfan5	google.com doesn't run a minetest server at port 9001
13:42	MinetestBot	rubenwardy: google.com 80 seems to be down
13:42	rubenwardy	!up google.co.uk 80
13:42	MinetestBot	rubenwardy: google.co.uk 80 seems to be down
13:42	markveidemanis	80 is YOUR port, you use to access the web
13:43	markveidemanis	wheres moltenbot
13:43	markveidemanis	and Minetest-tabn
13:43	markveidemanis	tan
13:43	sfan5	celeron55 wants ONE bot in the chanell
13:43	sfan5	*channel
13:44	markveidemanis	ONE?
13:44	sfan5	one
13:44	markveidemanis	!joke
13:44	markveidemanis	not as fun as moltenbot
13:45	markveidemanis	#minetest *!*moltenbot@*.server4you.de celeron55!~perttudsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi 1358020749
13:45	markveidemanis	???
13:45	sfan5	moltenbot is banned
13:46	markveidemanis	has my ip changed just now?
13:47	markveidemanis	"Most"?
13:47	markveidemanis	Be specific!
13:47	markveidemanis	As in: Number
13:48	rubenwardy	!joke
13:48	markveidemanis	anyway, i could use some help building
13:48	markveidemanis	anyone want to build?
13:48	markveidemanis	a lighthouse/hotel/wizard tower
13:49	markveidemanis	"Circular Tower"
13:49	markveidemanis	59!
13:49	markveidemanis	and.....60!!!!!!!
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13:50	* rubenwardy	is experiementing with HTML5 canvases
13:51	markveidemanis	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3954
13:51	markveidemanis	Vote now!
13:54	markveidemanis	UPDATE:http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=55068#p55068
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13:55	markveidemanis	whats +r
13:56	sfan5	!g +r irc
13:56	MinetestBot	sfan5: http://docs.dal.net/docs/modes.html
13:56	sfan5	^ markveidemanis
13:58	OldCoder	Back
14:00	markveidemanis	OldCoder
14:00	markveidemanis	Can you come on my server
14:00	markveidemanis	and join #mtmarktwain
14:00	OldCoder	markveidemanis, No I cannot
14:00	OldCoder	But thank you
14:00	markveidemanis	what about #mtmt
14:00	OldCoder	markveidemanis, Focus on fixes to your world please
14:00	OldCoder	Make a list
14:01	OldCoder	That we may make things work
14:02	sfan5	MinetestBot: reload serverup
14:02	MinetestBot	SyntaxError: invalid syntax (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/serverup.py", line 43)
14:03	sfan5	MinetestBot: reload serverup
14:03	MinetestBot	sfan5: <module 'serverup' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/serverup.py'> (version: 2013-01-19 14:04:46)
14:03	sfan5	!up minetest.org 30000-30018
14:03	MinetestBot	sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 seems to be down
14:03	sfan5	derp
14:03	sfan5	i should look at the code before i test it
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14:05	sfan5	MinetestBot: reload serverup
14:05	MinetestBot	sfan5: <module 'serverup' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/serverup.py'> (version: 2013-01-19 14:07:10)
14:05	sfan5	!up minetest.org 30000-30018
14:05	MinetestBot	sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.354ms)
14:05	MinetestBot	sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.321ms)
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14:05	markveidemanis_	+q
14:05	MinetestBot	sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.319ms)
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14:06	markveidemanis_	HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
14:06	sfan5	i should test it on another channel
14:06	markveidemanis_	#mtmt
14:06	OldCoder	WTF
14:06	sfan5	no
14:06	OldCoder	Stop that
14:06	sfan5	i did
14:06	markveidemanis_	??
14:06	markveidemanis_	oh.
14:06	markveidemanis	You can test it on #mtmt
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14:09	markveidemanis	How do i kick with chanserv?
14:09	Exio	You can't
14:09	markveidemanis	what about akick
14:10	Exio	auto-kickban
14:10	markveidemanis	OldCoder, go on #mtmt to see a bot list all your servers
14:10	markveidemanis	LOL
14:11	OldCoder	markveidemanis, why LOK?
14:11	OldCoder	markveidemanis, why LOL? *
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14:12	markveidemanis	minetest server minetest.org 30000 UP...minetest server minetest.org 30001 UP and so on
14:12	markveidemanis	looked like spam
14:12	markveidemanis	:D
14:13	sfan5	people that are not called thexyz, celeron55 or sfan5 have to deal with a limit of 4 ports
14:13	markveidemanis	and OC
14:13	markveidemanis	Hehe
14:15	sfan5	https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/commit/b9f3e1e223d2153965775359483d1afd2661e620
14:15	markveidemanis	who wants to "mess around" with irc?
14:15	MinetestBot	nobody
14:16	markveidemanis	who wants to
14:16	markveidemanis	who wants to action of cafe
14:16	markveidemanis	No keyword?
14:16	markveidemanis	with irc
14:16	sfan5	!up minetest.org:30000
14:16	MinetestBot	sfan5: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
14:16	MinetestBot	sfan5: minetest.org:30000 is up (0.312ms)
14:17	sfan5	MinetestBot: reload serverup
14:17	MinetestBot	sfan5: <module 'serverup' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/serverup.py'> (version: 2013-01-19 14:19:04)
14:18	sfan5	!up minetest.org:30000
14:18	MinetestBot	sfan5: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
14:18	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30000 is up (0.319ms)
14:20	markveidemanis	!up google.com 30000-1997
14:20	sfan5	markveidemanis: there are no ports between 30000 and 1997
14:21	markveidemanis	!up google.com 1997-30000
14:21	MinetestBot	markveidemanis: Too many Ports specified
14:22	markveidemanis	http://ompldr.org/vaDR3eQ/2013-01-19-141931_1024x600_scrot.png
14:22	markveidemanis	Thoughts?
14:22	sfan5	looks nice
14:23	markveidemanis	any ideas?
14:25	markveidemanis	...
14:36	Muadtralk	maybe decorate it with some nodeboxes?
14:49	markveidemanis	Not nodeboxes!
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14:50	markveidemanis	Ithink they look wierd and i am sure il get simething wrong
14:50	markveidemanis	who wants to talk about maps, servers or textures
14:52	Muadtralk	you don't need to provoke conversation
14:52	Muadtralk	it will come naturally
14:53	markveidemanis	SOMEONE SPEAK!!!
14:54	kaeza	marktraceur, please advertise your channels elsewhere, we have already seen them
14:54	kaeza	whoops
14:54	kaeza	markveidemanis, ^
14:54	markveidemanis	What?
14:54	markveidemanis	i have not mentioned any channels
14:54	markveidemanis	Have i?
14:55	sfan5	no
14:55	markveidemanis	Heh
14:55	markveidemanis	so does anyone?
14:55	kaeza	no
14:58	markveidemanis	Gine
14:58	markveidemanis	Fine
14:58	markveidemanis	.
14:59	klunk	markveidemanis: you mentionned channels 3 times. What's this game ?
15:00	markveidemanis	Minetest
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15:22	* jojoa1997	is bored
15:23	jojoa1997	any one here?
15:24	sfan5	yes
15:24	jojoa1997	hi
15:24	jojoa1997	I'm so bored cause at science fair
15:24	Cybersoft	yes
15:25	jojoa1997	and already hit max judges
15:25	Cybersoft	jojoa1997: just start digging tunnels
15:25	PilzAdam	jojoa1997, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4243
15:25	jojoa1997	i am on tablet pilzadam
15:26	ruskie	so make a tablet port of minetest
15:26	jojoa1997	dont know how
15:27	Cybersoft	my phone is way too small to convert minetest to android
15:27	Cybersoft	I couldn't test
15:27	jojoa1997	wow but i would not be able to use anything with lake of controls
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15:28	jojoa1997	how would you control it
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15:29	jojoa1997	is diamondmining server up
15:29	jojoa1997	judge at next table finally cya
15:30	Cybersoft	and besides just because you can do something doesn't mean you should
15:30	Cybersoft	for example some another freeware project I'm interested in has 2 developpers who have been working together for a while
15:31	Cybersoft	so it's kinda pointless to try to join that project because they have had their own idea for a while and I would just intrude
15:33	Cybersoft	that is what sucks sometimes with opensource dev project... sometimes there are no possibilities besides forking
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15:52	marktraceur	Morning all!
15:52	airlynx	mornin'
15:53	marktraceur	Documentation sprint is starting in #minetest-doc in five minutes
15:53	marktraceur	We're going to try to write up enough information for people to be able to enter this community well-informed, and help new people overcome basic hurdles relatively early
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16:12	OldCoder	Hi
16:12	markveidemanis	hi
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16:18	Edik	hi
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16:18	markveidemanis	uyvb
16:18	markveidemanis	Hmmm...
16:19	markveidemanis	That was a test.
16:19	Edik	?
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16:20	sfan5	!server
16:20	MinetestBot	sfan5: AviActu Global Minetest Server (0.4.3) | aviactu.info:30000   up (99.040%)
16:22	sfan5	MinetestBot: reload server
16:22	MinetestBot	sfan5: <module 'server' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/server.py'> (version: 2013-01-19 16:23:21)
16:22	sfan5	!server
16:22	MinetestBot	sfan5: D-L-K Networks GameServer | game.d-l-k.net:30000   up (99.936%)
16:27	MinetestBot	john_minetest: AviActu Global Minetest Server (0.4.3) | aviactu.info:30000   up (99.040%)
16:27	markveidemanis	!server
16:27	markveidemanis	?
16:27	MinetestBot	markveidemanis: Redcrab's server 0.4 dev20120106-1 | redcrab.suret.net:30000   up (99.966%)
16:28	markveidemanis	???
16:28	sfan5	it gives you a random server from http://servers.minetest.ru
16:28	markveidemanis	!server
16:28	MinetestBot	markveidemanis: Redcrab's server : for serious builder | redcrab.suret.net:30401   up (99.928%)
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16:28	markveidemanis	!server
16:28	MinetestBot	markveidemanis: Jordach's Pixel Art | redcrab.suret.net:30402   up (99.968%)
16:28	markveidemanis	it wont tell me my server!
16:28	markveidemanis	:D
16:29	sfan5	it will tell you a random server
16:30	markveidemanis	<MinetestBot> markveidemanis: MarkTwain Server | minetest.org:30010   up (96.747%)
16:30	markveidemanis	took a bit of spamming...
16:30	markveidemanis	it picks redcrab most ofall
16:31	sfan5	because redcrab has the most server
16:31	sfan5	+s
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16:31	markveidemanis	+s?
16:31	markveidemanis	not seen that one
16:31	markveidemanis	:D
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16:31	markveidemanis	+b?
16:31	sfan5	*facepalm*
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16:41	sfan5	MinetestBot: reload rutils
16:41	MinetestBot	sfan5: rutils: no such module!
16:42	kaeza	MinetestBot: reload awesomeness
16:44	Cybersoft	Slackware, Redhat, SuSE ... mostly suse when it was an independant company. I sometimes use Ubuntu in virtual machines
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16:48	Calinou	harsh linux
16:48	Calinou	<mark shuttleworth seal of approval>
16:48	Cybersoft	gunzip -cd .gz | tar -xvf -   can't believe I still remember that
16:49	RealBadAngel	hi all
16:49	Calinou	cd Downloads; gunzip *
16:49	Calinou	???
16:49	kaeza	hey RBA
16:49	Calinou	PROFIT
16:49	Cybersoft	yeah, it gunzip to the stdout so you have to use a specific switch with tar to take the input from stdin
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16:49	kaeza	Cybersoft, tar xfz file.tar.gz?
16:50	Kacey	hey kaeza
16:50	kaeza	hey Kacey
16:50	RealBadAngel	http://realbadangel.pl/almost.png
16:50	Kacey	im on my xbox
16:52	kaeza	RealBadAngel, excellent :)
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16:53	Kacey	*trollface*
16:53	babyface1031	nice i cant wait for it RealBadAngel
16:53	* VanessaE	peeks in
16:53	Kacey	hey v
16:54	Cybersoft	rba: are you the one who mentionned l-systems yesterday?
16:54	VanessaE	hey kacey
16:54	RealBadAngel	hi VanessaE
16:54	VanessaE	RealBadAngel: see pm.
16:54	Kacey	im on my xbo lol
16:54	RealBadAngel	k
16:54	RealBadAngel	Cybersoft, yes
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16:55	sfan5	!crc32 test
16:55	MinetestBot	AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'replace' (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/irc.py", line 161, in safe)
16:57	Cybersoft	RealBadAngel: I've been reading on these yesterday, seems it is already used for world generation. I think it should be mentionned on the wiki
16:58	RealBadAngel	Cybersoft, l-systems c++ code is in the engine from some time already
16:58	RealBadAngel	we are workin now on Lua side
16:58	sfan5	MinetestBot: reload rutils
16:59	Cybersoft	I see. I really like those topics in school... grammar, production rules, state machines, termination problem...
16:59	Cybersoft	*liked
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17:00	sfan5	!crc32 test
17:00	MinetestBot	-662733300(-0x278081f4)
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17:05	markveidemanis_	Hi
17:05	nisio	yo
17:07	markveidemanis	Silence***
17:07	markveidemanis	know any good maps?
17:07	markveidemanis	want to talk about building?
17:10		MinetestBot was kicked by thexyz: MinetestBot
17:10	OldCoder	++
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17:22	* Calinou	compiles OldCoder++ code
17:22	OldCoder	Hi
17:22	OldCoder	Heh
17:24	babyface1031	hi OldCoder
17:24	OldCoder	hi!
17:24	markveidemanis	Hi!
17:26	markveidemanis	list to remove:
17:26	markveidemanis	conifers
17:26	markveidemanis	animals
17:26	markveidemanis	bridges
17:26	markveidemanis	computers
17:26	markveidemanis	display blocks
17:27	markveidemanis	industrial
17:27	markveidemanis	secret passage
17:28	markveidemanis	xmas (its over)
17:28	markveidemanis	</list>
17:28	markveidemanis	and can you use my stairsplus and technic ores.lua and cement.lua patches
17:32	thexyz	sfan5: yes, please, test it in another channel
17:32	thexyz	and we should discuss bots with c55, btw
17:32	Cybersoft	ice cream :))))))
17:33	sfan5	thexyz: i used 1 command, i switched to query
17:33	sfan5	+to test it
17:33	sfan5	*other command
17:33	sfan5	+s
17:33	markveidemanis	you are still welcome on #mtmt :D
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17:35	markveidemanis	OldCoder
17:35	markveidemanis	can you remove technic too
17:37	markveidemanis	and mesecons
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17:38	markveidemanis	how do i register abm conifers:leaves and conifers:trunk to air?
17:38	sokomine	hi. i'm getting some errors during configuration with cmake with the very newest version: CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:157 (find_package): Could not find module FindJthread.cmake or a configuration file for package Jthread.
17:38	sokomine	any hints? (debian)
17:38	sfan5	install libjthread-dev?
17:40	sokomine	hmm. does not seem to exist?
17:41	sokomine	apt-cache search finds no package named jthread
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17:42	sfan5	i use debian wheezy and apt-get can find various thing if i try "apt-get install libjthread<tab>"
17:42	sfan5	*things
17:43	sfan5	!b16d 6D696E657465737420697320617765736F6D6521
17:43	MinetestBot	minetest is awesome!
17:43	thexyz	http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=jthread
17:43	sfan5	!base16decode 6D696E657465737420697320617765736F6D6521
17:43	MinetestBot	minetest is awesome!
17:43	sfan5	\o/
17:43	Cybersoft	...
17:43	Cybersoft	sfan5 found a new toy
17:44	LandMine	!up minetest
17:44	MinetestBot	LandMine: Invalid Address
17:44	LandMine	!up minetest.com
17:44	MinetestBot	minetest.com:30000 seems to be down
17:44	sfan5	we have !base[16,32,64][decode,encode] now
17:44	sokomine	hmm. i'm still at squeeze. that doesn't seem to have jthread yet
17:46	sfan5	!re !emosewa llits si tsetenim
17:46	MinetestBot	minetest is still awesome!
17:46	Cybersoft	RBA: did you know about this: http://www.uni-forst.gwdg.de/~wkurth/grogra.html
17:47	markveidemanis	!up minetest.org 30007-30011
17:47	MinetestBot	markveidemanis: Too many Ports specified
17:47	sokomine	yes of course it is :-) but the newest version has even more awesom features :-) that's why i think that my...er...about two weeks old version might be too old :-)
17:47	markveidemanis	!up minetest.org 30007-30010
17:47	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30007 is up (0.391ms)
17:47	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30008 is up (0.312ms)
17:47	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30009 is up (0.318ms)
17:47	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30010 is up (0.321ms)
17:47	Cybersoft	Growth Grammar Intepreter
17:48	LandMine	My balls itch :-(
17:50	markveidemanis	OldCoder
17:50	markveidemanis	17:24
17:52	thexyz	sfan5: are you sure we need that?
17:53	markveidemanis	We do!!!
17:53	thexyz	i don't think so
17:53	sfan5	its always good to have these things lying around
17:53	sfan5	*sometimes
17:54	thexyz	lol
17:54	thexyz	yes
17:55	sfan5	^ i agree
17:56	sokomine	yes it would. those new trees are great :-) the vegtation is the most important part about biomes in mt. it enriches singleplayer a lot
17:58	VanessaE	john_minetest: any nodes can be used to make a tree - stone trunks and mese leaves with super glow glass for the fruit if you want
18:00	klunk	yes Darkrose use that to spawn hives instead of apple, for example
18:00	VanessaE	john_minetest: I'm working on that.
18:00	VanessaE	moretrees separates trees into biomes already
18:00	VanessaE	I'm working on a mapgen-based version
18:00	VanessaE	(for now trees spawn with abms because it's actually faster)
18:04	sokomine	there is already that very nice swamp mod from hybrid_dog. it just lacks efficency. maybe that's due to the mod using bas' habitat
18:05	sokomine	the bees mod is great as well :-)
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18:08	klunk	yes it is
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18:12	Calinou	http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.sound_play <= O_o, page name not starting with a capital
18:12	thexyz	is that strange?
18:14	thexyz	hm
18:14	thexyz	>Animated avatars are disallowed
18:15	thexyz	I removed it
18:15	sfan5	you can rename a .gif to .png and it still works with the most browsers
18:16	sfan5	[LOG]: Checked 2 RSS Feeds in 6.000 seconds  <- lol
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18:23	Cybersoft	is there a wireframe mode in minetest?
18:23	Cybersoft	so I can see how things are rendered?
18:25	sfan5	no
18:25	kaeza	!tw
18:25	MinetestBot	kaeza: Give me a link, a username, or a tweet id
18:25	kaeza	!tw lkaezadl3
18:25	MinetestBot	@crazycoder13 "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step" -- Confucius (@lkaezadl3)
18:25	markveidemanis	who wants to see an AWESOME building
18:26	markveidemanis	That i just build
18:26	kaeza	noone
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18:30	Cybersoft	markveidemanis: me?
18:30	markveidemanis	http://ompldr.org/vaDUwcQ/2013-01-19-182813_1024x600_scrot.png
18:30	markveidemanis	its on minetest.org:30010
18:30	markveidemanis	in skycity
18:33	kaeza	http://gameblaster64.xandorus.com/perttu-ahola
18:33	kaeza	this guy needs to update ^
18:33	Jordach	that goddamn snowman from over the road owes me rent; im going to fix his nose
18:33	kaeza	lol
18:34	PilzAdam	kaeza, 1: done; 2: done; 3:done
18:35	Jordach	(yes, kick it down muddafuckin dark, so there were no witnesses.)
18:35	kaeza	PilzAdam, hence, my "this guy needs to update" :P
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18:35	sfan5	!tw lkaezadl3
18:35	MinetestBot	@crazycoder13 "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step" -- Confucius (@lkaezadl3)
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18:35	sfan5	kaeza: is that you acount?
18:36	sfan5	(twitter)
18:36	Calinou	markveidemanis: ohai netbook user :3
18:36	kaeza	yup
18:36	Calinou	spotted with the 1024×600 resolution
18:36	Cybersoft	rome wasn't built in a day
18:36	Kacey	hey guys
18:36	Calinou	hi Kacey
18:36	Calinou	<Cybersoft> is there a wireframe mode in minetest? < nope
18:36	kaeza	sfan5, y?
18:36	Kacey	anyoe here have xbox live.
18:36	Calinou	but cubes are rendered individually
18:37	Kacey	?
18:37	Calinou	consoles FTL
18:37	Cybersoft	calinou: 2 triangles per face I guess?
18:37	Kacey	lol i am having problems
18:37	Calinou	Cybersoft: probably, not sure
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18:38	Calinou	Kacey: consoles are useless when you have a computer...
18:38	kaeza	also: tablets
18:38	Kacey	i dont have a computer right now lol
18:38	Jordach	Kacey, yes, but im not giving out my tag
18:38	Calinou	lol tablets
18:39	Jordach	Calinou, lolmr1990
18:39	Calinou	how many FPS at glxgears does your tablet do?
18:39	FreeFull	9001 fPS
18:39	VanessaE	-i-agree-that-glxgears-is-not-a-benchmark
18:40	VanessaE	:-)
18:40	Kacey	hi v
18:40	FreeFull	glxgears is a good benchmark if all your games do is coloured triangles =P
18:40	VanessaE	(or however they named it for a while there before it became -printfps)
18:40	Calinou	it is quite representative on dedicated GPUs at least
18:41	VanessaE	it's good enough to tell if your video driver is working properly or not
18:41	Calinou	it is way worse for comparing dedicated GPUs to IGPs though
18:41	Cybersoft	what about passmark?
18:41	Calinou	also glxgears relies a lot on CPU :P
18:41	Cybersoft	is it considered a good benchmark?
18:41	Cybersoft	or just a good relative benchmark
18:41	Calinou	not installed by default
18:41	VanessaE	passmark is good.
18:41	FreeFull	VanessaE: You can always just   glxinfo | grep Direct
18:41	VanessaE	I use their website for comparing stuff.
18:42	Calinou	if you want something not installed by default on most distros, tesseract is a good benchmark
18:42	FreeFull	Actually, direct
18:42	VanessaE	FreeFull: that doesn't always work.
18:42	Calinou	mostly relies on GPU :P
18:42	Cybersoft	I use it for purchase... can't justify spending 200$ if the new part isn't at least 300% better
18:42	VanessaE	there have been a couple of times where glxinfo said direct rendering was turned on, but graphics were still slow as detected by glxgears.
18:42	markveidemanis	Hi!
18:42	VanessaE	hi markveidemanis
18:43	FreeFull	VanessaE: I only had that when both drivers and hardware were sucky
18:43	markveidemanis	http://ompldr.org/vaDUwcQ/2013-01-19-182813_1024x600_scrot.png
18:43	markveidemanis	look
18:43	markveidemanis	Its better than that now
18:43	VanessaE	markveidemanis: vas ist das?
18:44	markveidemanis	???
18:44	VanessaE	what is this?
18:44	VanessaE	(sorry, just being funny)
18:44	markveidemanis	idk yet
18:44	FreeFull	markveidemanis: Looks like a death ray
18:44	VanessaE	looks sorta like a missile silo or a nuke plant
18:44	markveidemanis	would you like to see it in real-life...wait no - minetest.
18:44	Cybersoft	my old MC "integrated with nature" building: http://cdn2.planetminecraft.com/files/resource_media/screenshot/1237/building2_mc_3570464.jpg
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18:45	markveidemanis	Well?
18:45	Cybersoft	convert just cause 2 building: http://cdn2.planetminecraft.com/files/resource_media/screenshot/1237/itt_building_3564347.jpg
18:46	markveidemanis	VanessaE, want to  see the building/
18:46	VanessaE	markveidemanis: sure.
18:46	markveidemanis	on a server
18:46	Cybersoft	pmc might be very slow today so you may have to refresh
18:46	VanessaE	not on a server.
18:46	markveidemanis	minetest.org 30010
18:46	markveidemanis	thats where i built it
18:46	VanessaE	I'm not going online for a while, busy arguing with some code.
18:46	VanessaE	(which, btw, is your fault ;-) )
18:46	markveidemanis	hMmm/
18:46	markveidemanis	?
18:47	RealBadAngel	http://realbadangel.pl/done.png
18:47	RealBadAngel	im done with textures stuff for the trees :)
18:47	VanessaE	markveidemanis: wasn't it you who wanted to stop conifers from just popping up all over? :-)
18:48	Cybersoft	RBA: btw can your l-system generate different "models" of tree for the same species?
18:49	Cybersoft	so that pine tree X would look different from pine tree Y ?
18:49	Cybersoft	as far as branch and leaves goes
18:49	Calinou	Cybersoft: lol
18:49	Calinou	$200 and you expect 300% better
18:49	VanessaE	Cybersoft: yes.  see moretrees mod
18:49	Calinou	you have to wait like 4 years to do that
18:49	Cybersoft	yeah, that's how old my old PC is
18:49	sfan5	to do what?
18:49	klunk	RealBadAngel: yeah !!! :-)
18:49	RealBadAngel	Cybersoft, its very hard to get 2 same lookin trees of the kind
18:49	markveidemanis	Yeah that was me
18:50	markveidemanis	18:47>
18:50	Cybersoft	looking to switch from E8400 and 8800GT to i5-3570 and GTX 660
18:50	VanessaE	markveidemanis: I'm working on making them only generate at mapgen time or if you plant a sapling, just as regular trees are done now.
18:50	Calinou	E8400?
18:50	RealBadAngel	they will be similar but never lookin the same
18:50	Cybersoft	Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
18:50	Calinou	oh, cpu
18:51	markveidemanis	but they invaded spawn, a protected area
18:51	Cybersoft	I'm going to have to ask you to return your Geek card within 15 days ;)
18:51	Calinou	i7-2600K + 570GTX here
18:51	RealBadAngel	if some1 wanna try and see all the models ingame, https://github.com/RealBadAngel/treegen
18:52	RealBadAngel	use creative to get spawning sticks
18:52	markveidemanis	OldCoder...
18:52	Cybersoft	I didn't know one of the dev was called oldcoder
18:53	Calinou	Cybersoft: 660ti has slightly better performance-price ratio
18:53	Cybersoft	Someone said something like oldcoder made X some time ago
18:53	Calinou	30-40 euros, 15% faster
18:53	Cybersoft	so I thought they were saying some programmer made X a long time ago but he/she isn't in the project anymore
18:54	Cybersoft	Calinou: 660 is 250$ here, 660ti is 319$
18:54	Cybersoft	300$ is way too much for a gfx card.. it has more to do with limits than with performance-price ratio
18:54	OldCoder	Hi
18:55	OldCoder	Cybersoft, Hello
18:55	klunk	RealBadAngel: is it a mod or something to compile or replace
18:55	klunk	?
18:55	Calinou	Cybersoft: go find another store then
18:55	meldrian	so... does somebody allreasdy recognize that in the newest dev the reciepe for 9 mese-crystal is the same as for mesecon in the mesecon mod?
18:55	Calinou	be happy, in usa there is no vat
18:55	RealBadAngel	klunk, its a mod
18:55	Cybersoft	newegg.ca / ncix.ca .. kinda the least expensive
18:55	VanessaE	meldrian: the latest mesecons dev already fixes that.
18:55	Cybersoft	but I'm getting that within a timeframe of 1 year so prices might drop
18:55	Cybersoft	and I need to justify paying 150$ for a modular psu...
18:55	meldrian	VanessaE, naaahice, thank you :)
18:56	Calinou	lol newegg
18:56	RealBadAngel	its not usable for regular gameplay tho, its a framework for mod like moretrees
18:56	klunk	RealBadAngel: ok, thanks, I will try it in two days (running with 0.4.4 classic version ?)
18:56	Calinou	Cybersoft: you can find modular psus for like $100
18:56	markveidemanis	Who can help me decorate my building
18:56	Calinou	in france that's 100 euros again
18:56	markveidemanis	Its done!
18:56	Calinou	thanks to VAT and more expensive "life"
18:56	Calinou	(for a 80 plus gold one)
18:56	RealBadAngel	it needs latest builds from git (not the stable release)
18:57	Calinou	<Cybersoft> 300$ is way too much for a gfx card.. <= my 570 cost more than $300 and it is worth it
18:57	Cybersoft	I'm just a casual gamer
18:57	Calinou	i don't smoke/drink/eat too much
18:57	Cybersoft	and since I met someone I might not have much time for games in the near future
18:57	Cybersoft	so I'm mainly looking for reliability
18:58	Cybersoft	I'm building a computer with a server role first and a gaming role second
18:58	Cybersoft	that's why I'm getting a motherboard with vpro and AMT, so I can manage it even if it is turned off
18:59	klunk	RealBadAngel: ok
18:59	Cybersoft	remoteKVM is nice too (wheter the machine is on or off)
19:00	Cybersoft	I'm kinda in an hurry because I have to install win 2008 r2 before my license expires
19:00	Cybersoft	I'll not be able to renew it, but I can keep an existing install
19:01	Calinou	AMT?
19:01	Calinou	lol, kvm
19:01	Calinou	virtualbox is da win
19:01	Calinou	"insecure", buuuut who cares?
19:01	Calinou	Cybersoft: windows, lol :>
19:02	Calinou	windows server is insecure, if you're worrying about security btw
19:02	Calinou	:3
19:02	meldrian	mese-pickaxe, such a nice and beautyful toy ^^
19:03	VanessaE	meldrian: get the maptools mod and play around with the admin pick.  it makes mese picks seem like wood by comparison :)
19:04	PilzAdam	VanessaE, FYI, meldrian makes the best german Minetest Lets Play
19:04	VanessaE	cool.
19:04	Calinou	VanessaE: I was about to say that :P
19:04	meldrian	aaah... stop it, you...
19:04	meldrian	^^
19:06	Cybersoft	now kiss
19:07	markveidemanis	how do i register abm
19:07	markveidemanis	from block1 to block2
19:08	Calinou	minetest.register_abm()
19:08	Calinou	lua_api.txt has the answer
19:08	markveidemanis	what goes inside ()
19:08	Calinou	:3
19:08	markveidemanis	(" ", " ") ?
19:08	PilzAdam	minetest.register_abm(abm_def)
19:09	PilzAdam	abm def is a table
19:09	markveidemanis	minetest.register_abm("conifers:trunk", "air)
19:09	markveidemanis	will that work
19:09	PilzAdam	no
19:09	markveidemanis	default:air
19:10	PilzAdam	read what I said above
19:10	RealBadAngel	hi PilzAdam, do you like the treegen textures i made?
19:10	markveidemanis	minetest.register_abm(abm_def) so that to start with?
19:10	markveidemanis	do  i need a tab space
19:10	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, link?
19:11	Cybersoft	RBA: I can't tell my eyes resolution can't see textures under 32x
19:11	RealBadAngel	http://realbadangel.pl/done.png
19:11	Cybersoft	;)
19:11	* PilzAdam	sees the MC sapling
19:11	RealBadAngel	Cybersoft, those are default textures which have to be 16x, texture pack makers surely will make higher resolution ones
19:12	Cybersoft	I know, I'm just kidding
19:12	RealBadAngel	PilzAdam, yes, those were with proper licence
19:12	Cybersoft	in a way you are like the minetest speedtree guy/gal
19:12	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, nice textures
19:13	RealBadAngel	and are not minecraft textures, but TerraFirma mod textures
19:13	klunk	RealBadAngel: silver birch texture is awfull
19:13	RealBadAngel	youre welcome to propose better one ;)
19:13	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, would be nice to see them in use (i.e. as trees)
19:14	klunk	?thanks but it is great !!
19:14	RealBadAngel	you can play around with them
19:14	RealBadAngel	https://github.com/RealBadAngel/treegen
19:14	marktraceur	For the information of the channel, I'm still working on documentation at dev.minetest.net and in #minetest-doc
19:14	marktraceur	If you'd like to help out, there are still things to do
19:15	markveidemanis	so heres what i need to do:
19:15	markveidemanis	make conifers:trunk turn to air
19:15	markveidemanis	same to conifers:leaves
19:15	Cybersoft	RBA: I don't remember what you said about it, but are random pine trees or random species tree possible
19:15	VanessaE	markveidemanis: use worldedit.
19:15	RealBadAngel	Cybersoft, just download the mod and spawn some trees
19:15	VanessaE	Cybersoft: yes, they are.  see moretrees mod
19:15	markveidemanis	too many of them
19:16	markveidemanis	and they join with buildings
19:17	RealBadAngel	Cybersoft, there are 11 different kinds of trees
19:18	RealBadAngel	oak, spruce, pine, beech, birch, palm, apple, willow, jungle, sequoia
19:19	RealBadAngel	one more to come, need to add it just to the framework
19:19	Cybersoft	this is what I refered to as species
19:19	Cybersoft	my question was, do you get random branching
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19:19	RealBadAngel	yes
19:19	RealBadAngel	you wont find 2 trees of the same kind lookin the same
19:20	RealBadAngel	that is L-system is all about
19:21	Cybersoft	so you have a base word for a particular species and a specific set of production rules for each species?
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19:22	Cybersoft	like pine might be BABABBABABA  with rule1, rule2, rule3, etc... to make the branches and leaves while palm base word would be CABCCCBA with specific rules for branches
19:22	Cybersoft	something like that?
19:23	Cybersoft	Lindenmayer
19:24	klunk	RealBadAngel: I can see a "regular" "classic" tree, with apples, will L-system gonna operate with spawning hives, as is it (talking about candles/bees Darkrose mod) ?
19:24	Cybersoft	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-system
19:25	VanessaE	oooooooo I figured out my mapgen issue!
19:25	OldCoder	?
19:25	OldCoder	Good
19:25	VanessaE	mapgen-based moretrees mod coming very very very very soon
19:27	RealBadAngel	Cybersoft, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1076
19:27	RealBadAngel	check the treegen framework for more examples
19:27	Cybersoft	l-system are kinda different from formal language
19:28	Cybersoft	you can add a symbol whenever you want without a rule
19:29	RealBadAngel	its similar to LOGO
19:29	Cybersoft	hum
19:30	kaeza	<VanessaE> mapgen-based moretrees mod coming very very very very soon
19:30	kaeza	will you take my sugestion and make leaves not drop as ents?
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19:30	Cybersoft	interesting concept
19:31	VanessaE	done!
19:32	VanessaE	moretrees now generates trees at mapgen time
19:32	VanessaE	(and grows saplings via an ABM)
19:32	VanessaE	plantlife mod updated accordingly.
19:32	VanessaE	\o.
19:32	VanessaE	\o/
19:32	kaeza	+1e+1000000000
19:32	marktraceur	VanessaE: \o. kinda works
19:32	Cybersoft	my research told me that l-system can also be used to build structures like house and the rooms in them
19:33	Cybersoft	it's an interesting concept :)
19:33	kaeza	\o\ \o| |o| |o/ /o/
19:33	Calinou	let's make l-system air
19:33	Calinou	and l-system caves too :3
19:33	RealBadAngel	Cybersoft, yes, its possible
19:34	RealBadAngel	you can draw anythin with it
19:34	markveidemanis_	who can help me with conifers ==> air
19:34	Cybersoft	ie: a rule for doors, a rule for windows, for floors etc
19:34	kaeza	markveidemanis_, 'clean' mod :3
19:34	RealBadAngel	propably code should change a  bit, its too trees oriented by now
19:35	Cybersoft	from what I can see the generated words are independant from drawing
19:35	Cybersoft	l-system just generate a bunch of letters, it's up to you to decide that they are drawing instruction
19:35	RealBadAngel	yes
19:35	Cybersoft	so I assume that the system to generate a bunch of letters is already implemented
19:36	Cybersoft	as well as the "meaning" that they are drawing instruction
19:36	Cybersoft	except that meaning is for trees atm, right?
19:36	RealBadAngel	indeed
19:36	RealBadAngel	take a look at treegen.cpp
19:37	VanessaE	there,.
19:37	Cybersoft	so if I wanted to do structures, all that is left to do is to assign a meaning that draw structures
19:37	markveidemanis_	im not using clean mod, i doesn't work for me
19:37	VanessaE	moretrees and plantlife forum threads updated
19:38	kaeza	markveidemanis_, I used it to clean up all of MOBF ents plus VanessaE flowers for lag testing purposes
19:38	kaeza	so maybe you are not using it correctly
19:39	VanessaE	markveidemanis_, OldCoder:  Please upgrade plantlife and moretrees mods right away.
19:39	VanessaE	markveidemanis_: that upgrade ^^^^^ will fix your problem, you don't need to remove them now, they won't keep re-growing anymore.
19:39	markveidemanis_	Im not using conifers
19:40	markveidemanis_	i need to register an abm to remove them
19:40	kaeza	markveidemanis_, that's exactly what clean does
19:40	markveidemanis_	and i would like as little lagg as possible, that means less generated structures
19:40	markveidemanis_	clean does not work for me
19:41	kaeza	gl;hf worldediting then :3
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19:42	Cybersoft	RBA: my area of interest is generating blocks at runtime that can be used to build things like arches circular structures spanning multiple blocks
19:42	OldCoder	VanessaE, k
19:42	markveidemanis_	but you said no when i asked you
19:42	RealBadAngel	Cybersoft, its possible with l-systems
19:42	RealBadAngel	you can modify them at runtime and draw them just
19:42	Cybersoft	ie: arches that look curvy, ie: not made of 1m^3 cubes
19:43	Cybersoft	one way I found of doing that is to generate blocks on the fly with a circle arc cut from them
19:43	RealBadAngel	think of L-systems axioms as of programming language
19:44	RealBadAngel	because in fact it is one
19:44	Cybersoft	RealBadAngel: Almost anything is possible in C++. The question is always how hard/how long it will take :)
19:45	Cybersoft	like it's possible to do a traveling salesman implementation in c++ with all the cities in the world. The problem is that the sun will blows up before you get an answer
19:45	RealBadAngel	when its a hobby, time factor doesnt really matter
19:45	RealBadAngel	we just code our ideas
19:46	RealBadAngel	sooner or later comes one day like today that our work gets finished
19:46	Cybersoft	It does for me, I'm paid to code so I don't have much free time... my main constraint is to minimize implementation time
19:47	RealBadAngel	im also doing paid projects, but Minetest is hobby
19:47	RealBadAngel	and here time doesnt matter
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19:48	Cybersoft	and from what I understand the main constraint of this project is to maximize performance so that old computers can here the new features
19:49	Cybersoft	*can use
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19:50	RealBadAngel	one of them
19:51	RealBadAngel	what needs more computin power its often made as an option
19:51	RealBadAngel	not all of us are PC museum fans ;)
19:53	PilzAdam	Cybersoft, another goal is to create a good survival gameplay
19:53	PilzAdam	for now, mobs is what we need to do next
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19:54	PilzAdam	the plan is that someone create them in Lua and tells the engine devs what engine patches are needed
19:56	Cybersoft	I saw part of that discussion, wasn't there an nissue with using 3d models and animation?
19:56	Cybersoft	*issue
20:01	marktraceur	VanessaE: Hey, can I bug you a sec about a documentation thing?
20:01	markveidemanis	IM DONE
20:01	markveidemanis	wanna see the finished tower?
20:05	VanessaE	marktraceur: sure
20:06	markveidemanis	??
20:06	markveidemanis	tab?
20:06	marktraceur	Any artistic types out there want to help create some logos for different bits of the system? I need one to represent the engine (gears maybe?), one to represent mods, and one to represent documentation/translation/art
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20:06	VanessaE	markveidemanis:   [01-19 15:01] <marktraceur> VanessaE: Hey, can I bug you a sec about a documentation thing?
20:06	markveidemanis	IL take a shot
20:06	marktraceur	VanessaE: Do you think you could weigh in on the first draft of an artistic style guide for textures?
20:07	marktraceur	VanessaE: i.e. for textures to be included in minetest_game or core
20:07	VanessaE	marktraceur: sure
20:07	marktraceur	VanessaE: http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=Visual_style_guidelines&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1
20:07	VanessaE	marktraceur: right, I figured that's what you were thinking of
20:07	* VanessaE	looks...
20:08	marktraceur	VanessaE: /win 30
20:08	marktraceur	Damn it
20:08	VanessaE	heh
20:08	VanessaE	it might help if you pointed me to a first draft to *look* at :D
20:08	markveidemanis	ATCHOOOOO!!!
20:08	marktraceur	VanessaE: I guess when I said "weigh in on" I meant "compose"
20:08	* VanessaE	is blown over by markveidemanis's sneeze
20:08	* marktraceur	should have been more clear
20:09	VanessaE	marktraceur: oh heh, actually in that case not right now
20:09	marktraceur	KK
20:09	markveidemanis	*markveidemanis'
20:09	markveidemanis	not s's
20:09	markveidemanis	thats not good
20:09	markveidemanis	Heh
20:09	marktraceur	markveidemanis: So if you get those icons figured out you should upload them to the wiki: http://dev.minetest.net/Special:Upload
20:11	markveidemanis	What's the name of the first registered minetest forum account in reverse?
20:11	markveidemanis	not uresstet?
20:11	marktraceur	tetsseru?
20:12	markveidemanis	wait, it was celeron
20:12	markveidemanis	55norelec
20:12	markveidemanis	Successful login
20:12	Jordach	VanessaE, i've done bigger sneezes than that
20:13	Jordach	(and i've been sneezing all damn day!)
20:13	markveidemanis	**A***A***A
20:13	markveidemanis	ATCHO-
20:13	markveidemanis	Dont interrupt!
20:15	Cybersoft	honestly I wouldn't even know where to start to code mobs / characters
20:15	Cybersoft	2 legs or 4 legs? animation need those look right in both cases, maybe with some sort of skeleton system?
20:15	Cybersoft	what if the mob is a spider and needs more legs?
20:15	Cybersoft	(and probably a different skeleton)
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20:18	VanessaE	G*d please no spiders and skeletons
20:18	TheZenKitteh	why not spiders or skeletons?
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20:18	* TheZenKitteh	prefers zombies but im sure most here know that by now
20:19	Cybersoft	TheZenKitteh: cuz spiders are scary
20:19	VanessaE	because MC already has those and from every video I've seen with them present, they're a terrible idea.
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20:19	Cybersoft	yeah but what about elevators with spider webs in them that slows you down and stuff?
20:19	VanessaE	never heard of such a thing.
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20:20	Cybersoft	it's a technique sometimes used when you make vertical mine shafts
20:20	TheZenKitteh	I will say vanessae I've been going nuts to see these new trees from that moretrees mod but so far it appears even after about 21 hours there is still no new trees.. installing update now
20:20	VanessaE	we don't need that
20:20	Cybersoft	instead of using ladders you use spider webs (since they slow you down) and water at the very end
20:21	VanessaE	just punch a few holes in the sides of the shaft and use the sneak key to grab onto one of those ledges on the way down
20:21	Cybersoft	so your 64 meter fall becomes like a 2m fall instead
20:22	VanessaE	in MT we don't need to worry about such stuff
20:22	TheZenKitteh	for now put a block of water at bottom of shaft and freefall? I have such a mining shaft. quick to get down but long time to get up
20:23	VanessaE	ladders or water at the bottom, ledges to grab onto every so often on the way down if you need to stop at a specific level, etc.
20:23	VanessaE	and use a sneak elevator or teleporter mod to get back out
20:24	markveidemanis	http://dev.minetest.net/File:Untitled.jpg
20:24	VanessaE	jpg for pixel art? >:-(
20:24	markveidemanis	i think its bad...
20:24	markveidemanis	Hmmm?
20:24	VanessaE	what is it supposed to be?
20:24	FreeFull	What you can do in minetest is sneakclimb
20:25	markveidemanis	a gear
20:25	FreeFull	markveidemanis: jpg ruins pixels
20:25	markveidemanis	so png or gif
20:25	VanessaE	markveidemanis: try making it with 8 teeth instead of 12 and you'll be able to make it look more rounded.
20:25	FreeFull	markveidemanis: png doesn't ruin anything
20:25	FreeFull	png keeps it at max quality
20:25	TheZenKitteh	btw anyone here familiar with minetest and puppy linux?
20:25	FreeFull	gif, 256 colour restriction but otherwise is fine too
20:25	markveidemanis	its the anti-aliasing that *ruins* it
20:26	VanessaE	markveidemanis: jpg is not meant for pixel art.  don't use it for that.
20:26	FreeFull	markveidemanis: You mean in the zoom?
20:26	markveidemanis	Ok
20:26	markveidemanis	zoom?
20:26	markveidemanis	yep
20:26	markveidemanis	Ok, il use png
20:26	FreeFull	That's just the wiki/browser not doing nearest pixel scaling
20:26	markveidemanis	can i convert it somehow
20:27	TheZenKitteh	o__O
20:27	markveidemanis	http://minetest.org/data/worldlogs/marktwain-log.txt
20:28	markveidemanis	^ive been busy
20:29	FreeFull	markveidemanis: You can resave as png
20:29	FreeFull	the jpg probably ruined the colours though
20:29	markveidemanis	nah its a terrible gear
20:30	markveidemanis	i think i would have to make it in minetest first
20:30	markveidemanis	from bloks
20:30	markveidemanis	blocks
20:32	markveidemanis	changed ip
20:32	markveidemanis	not disconnected...
20:32	marktraceur	markveidemanis: How are those icons coming?
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20:48	VanessaE	back
20:48	* STHGOM	cheers
20:50	TheZenKitteh	wb vanessae
20:50	VanessaE	thanks
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21:04	FreeFull	With the new creative mode, you can only grab one torch at a time from the creative menu
21:05	VanessaE	place it in your inventory and it becomes infinite
21:05	VanessaE	(except if you want to craft with it)
21:05	VanessaE	(then it becomes irritating)
21:09	FreeFull	VanessaE: Oh yeah, it does
21:09	FreeFull	But not for crafting or eating
21:09	FreeFull	So apples
21:10	Mika_R	Oldcoder, got any servers up?
21:12	Mika_R	VanessaE, Wow
21:12	OldCoder	Hi
21:12	OldCoder	Mika_R, All of them
21:12	VanessaE	Mika_R: what?
21:12	Mika_R	ok, then i hit wrong the adress problably.
21:12	Mika_R	VanessaE, went to your server
21:12	VanessaE	Mika_R: you like?
21:12	VanessaE	:)
21:13	Mika_R	yes
21:13	Mika_R	but it said something about my client
21:13	VanessaE	the sign-in message you mean?
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21:14	Mika_R	that it might not be fully compatible
21:15	VanessaE	oh
21:15	VanessaE	just keep your client up-to-date :-
21:15	VanessaE	:-0
21:15	VanessaE	:-)
21:15	sapier1	vanessae is your server still running?
21:16	VanessaE	sapier1: yes
21:16	VanessaE	but it keeps hanging up somewhat
21:16	VanessaE	less than before though
21:16	sapier1	hmm I'm not quite sure but I assume time with no crash is getting significant
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21:18	sapier	if it's still running by the end of the weekend I'll update the commits to be ready for merge
21:18	Mika_R	Oldcoder, what's the address / port to anunakkis europe?
21:18	OldCoder	That one is down but will return
21:18	OldCoder	I got the files back the other day
21:18	OldCoder	All the U.S. worlds are up
21:18	Mika_R	ok, i lost all in format
21:18	OldCoder	Lost what?
21:18	OldCoder	Go on
21:18	Mika_R	i had them bookmarked
21:19	OldCoder	The worlds?
21:19	OldCoder	http://minetest.org/
21:19	Mika_R	your site
21:19	OldCoder	See link above
21:19	sapier	oldcoder did you already update mobf?
21:19	OldCoder	sapier, No... I wish to speak with you
21:19	OldCoder	Perhaps right now
21:19	* OldCoder	considers
21:19	sapier	of course
21:20	OldCoder	Do you wish me to try the latest stuff now?
21:20	OldCoder	A few weeks ago you said it was not ready
21:20	sapier	yes I haven't done any major changes for 4 versions now I don't think it's bugfree but it should be quite stable
21:20	OldCoder	Then...
21:21	OldCoder	May I have a conservative version? Similar to what I am running now at first? Can this be done by config settings now? Or must I patch again?
21:21	sapier	still don't update all worlds at once and have a backup done before updating
21:21	OldCoder	Fine
21:21	OldCoder	I backed up last night
21:21	OldCoder	See questions above
21:22	sapier	I'll create a patch for you, as you still don't want changes in minetest.conf?
21:23	OldCoder	Not if they are 500 to 1,000 column lines
21:23	sapier	what mobs do you want? there's no big performance difference with current version anymore
21:23	OldCoder	Hmm
21:23	OldCoder	Explain the basic idea of mobs again
21:23	OldCoder	They are large crowds
21:23	OldCoder	of things?
21:23	sapier	any animal(type) is a mob
21:23	OldCoder	Yes
21:24	OldCoder	Go on
21:24	OldCoder	What exactly is a mob?
21:24	sapier	in core it's an entity
21:24	OldCoder	Yes, go on
21:24	sapier	animal_sheep is a mod defining 3 mobs sheep sheep_naked and chick
21:25	PilzAdam	isnt it Moving Object Block or something like this?
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21:25	Zetetic`	"mobile entity" i thought
21:25	sapier	no
21:25	OldCoder	sapier, O.K.
21:25	OldCoder	sapier, what i'd like
21:25	sapier	there are nodes and entities in minetest
21:25	sapier	nodes have static positions entities don't
21:25	OldCoder	is simply a way to select categories without long config file lines
21:25	PilzAdam	"Moving Object Block" comes from MC
21:25	OldCoder	A sample patch that disables some might be useful
21:25	OldCoder	Let's proceed
21:26	OldCoder	I'll give your mobs a workout if you like
21:26	sapier	there's a config gui which gives you posibillity to disable any mob by it's own ... unfortunatelly this is going to work in singleplayer only by now
21:26	OldCoder	I don't use GUIs
21:27	sapier	ok then I'll patch it for you
21:27	OldCoder	What I request is a sample patch that shows how to enable or disable categories at the source level
21:27	OldCoder	t y
21:27	OldCoder	Just a comment line or two there would be much appreciated
21:27	OldCoder	In the long run...
21:27	sapier	ok
21:27	OldCoder	I will write Perl code to do thiws
21:27	OldCoder	I will write Perl code to do this *
21:27	babyface1031	sapier: where do vombies spawn
21:28	sapier	at night on surface
21:28	sapier	if not lighted
21:28	babyface1031	on any surface
21:28	babyface1031	ok ty
21:28	sapier	no surface being in sunlight at day
21:29	babyface1031	ok and last question on the vombie trap what is in the middle for the craft recipe
21:29	sapier	... missleading sentence ... vombies spawn on surface that have full sunlight during daytime
21:29	sapier	a scale from a clownfish
21:30	* TheZenKitteh	likes vombies but they are still a bit laggy.. better than before but still a little
21:30	sapier	laggy meaning not catching you or laggy meaning slow down server?
21:30	TheZenKitteh	slow down server
21:30	* OldCoder	listens!
21:30	OldCoder	No vombies
21:30	OldCoder	No laggy please
21:30	* OldCoder	likes fast
21:31	TheZenKitteh	id love to see good vombies that can have like hundreds in a small area without lag
21:31	TheZenKitteh	would make survival fun
21:31	sapier	:-) I thought so vombies aren't loved very much they can be really anoying at night
21:31	TheZenKitteh	lol
21:31	sapier	I don't think this can be done with minetests current architecture
21:31	OldCoder	sapier, so devombie me
21:31	TheZenKitteh	long ago when mods were new and so were animals part of the world I ran was surviving zombies at night
21:31	OldCoder	Any other mobs to disable folks?
21:32	TheZenKitteh	and I made them more aggressive
21:32	TheZenKitteh	lol
21:32	babyface1031	well nvm if vombies are leaving
21:32	sapier	I'll create a patch that will enable you to en/disable vombies/mob categorys by commenting in/out single lines. Is this what you want?
21:32	TheZenKitteh	of course since then either minetest got slower or animals mod got slower. not sure which
21:32	sapier	more agressive?
21:33	TheZenKitteh	lol yea on the old world I ran when it came night time you better be armed and protected or you will die
21:33	sapier	ohh ok but current vombies are already very agressive
21:33	TheZenKitteh	now that armor exists (I think it works now?) and more weapons.. zombies would be epic
21:34	TheZenKitteh	of course my idea of a zombie is one that hunts players, can open simple wooden doors/gates/etc and jump single block things
21:35	TheZenKitteh	also can "gang up on" a player
21:35	sapier	opening doors is a bad thing ;-)
21:36	TheZenKitteh	wooden doors
21:36	sapier	everything else is already supported
21:36	TheZenKitteh	steel doors should remain unopenable
21:36	sapier	make it an enhancement issue on animals_modpack github
21:41	markveidemanis	Hi
21:41	markveidemanis	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3954
21:44	markveidemanis	pipeworks has teleportation?
21:44	RealBadAngel	you want to remove technic? :P
21:45	markveidemanis	It's not being used
21:45	markveidemanis	*New people* tend to join my server and as we know about new people...
21:45	markveidemanis	N00B
21:46	markveidemanis	if it is really needes i can add it later
21:46	markveidemanis	Needed
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21:46	markveidemanis	or shall i close the vote now? :P
21:47	RealBadAngel	just jokin, do whatever you want 2
21:47	markveidemanis	I kno
21:48	markveidemanis	does it lagg?
21:48	RealBadAngel	as any piece of code
21:49	OldCoder	Does anybody suggest mobs besides vombies to suppress?
21:49	markveidemanis	i say remove all entities excluding ufos, boats, items and the player
21:50	OldCoder	!
21:50	OldCoder	Geez
21:50	OldCoder	This is for the other worlds, Mark
21:50	OldCoder	We *know* you've decided to strip down your world and that's fine
21:50	markveidemanis	Heh, that just means removing animals
21:50	markveidemanis	and technic
21:50	markveidemanis	and mesecons
21:50	markveidemanis	and the rest
21:51	markveidemanis	That i listed
21:51	OldCoder	sapier, yes thank you regarding patch
21:51	markveidemanis	which patch?
21:51	markveidemanis	did you get the files
21:51	markveidemanis	default, technic, stairsplus, cleanconifers
21:52	markveidemanis	well, stairsplus and cleanconifers need more editing
21:55	markveidemanis	and i have updated trash mod
21:56	markveidemanis	i have stairs plus and trashcan uploading...
21:56	markveidemanis	.http://www.sendspace.com/file/q0ty37
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21:56	markveidemanis	Hi
21:56	Kacey	im on a computer this time ^_^
21:57	markveidemanis	wanna come on my server?
21:57	Kacey	not right now
21:57	markveidemanis	and take some screenshots
21:57	markveidemanis	Ok
21:58	markveidemanis	moltenbot was more reliable
21:58	sapier	https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack/tree/oldcoder_special_1.x
21:59	sapier	Oldcoder change mobf/oc_mob_selection.lua to en/disable those mob you (don't) want
21:59	markveidemanis	If any  new people want to build on my server, join now as i will not be around later
21:59	OldCoder	sapier, t y
21:59	markveidemanis	sapier: for which server is this on?
22:00	markveidemanis	*for
22:00	OldCoder	sapier, Indicate when I should update and provide correct link
22:00	OldCoder	t y
22:00	markveidemanis	48967
22:00	markveidemanis	=uptime:D
22:00	sapier	https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack/archive/oldcoder_special_1.x.zip
22:00	sapier	now
22:00	sapier	;-)
22:00	markveidemanis	http://servers.minetest.ru/
22:00	Kacey	i wish i could get a better RAM card for this computer...
22:01	markveidemanis	mine is going down D:
22:01	sapier	it's all mobs enabled except vombies
22:01	sapier	and creeper
22:01	sapier	-- boombomb
22:01	sapier	i need to rename that folde
22:01	Kacey	when is your server going down markv
22:01	markveidemanis	NEVER: i hope
22:02	markveidemanis	when the internet crashes
22:02	Kacey	haha
22:02	markveidemanis	whoops, i crashed the internet
22:03	OldCoder	sapier, t y!
22:03	OldCoder	I shall try in the next hour
22:03	OldCoder	and report the next time we talk
22:03	markveidemanis	**cheer in the background**
22:03	Kacey	almost on...
22:03	sapier	if you want to disable more mobs you only need to remove the comment signs
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22:10	Uberi	hey is that doc sprint thing going on right now?
22:11	sapier	yes what are you still standing here? ;-)
22:11	Uberi	eh I'm not getting anywhere studying for exams anyways
22:11	sapier	:-)
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22:13	Kacey	doc sprint?
22:13	Kacey	i missed my chance D:
22:13	Uberi	Kacey: over in #minetest-doc
22:13	Uberi	it's still going on
22:13	Uberi	get over there
22:19	sokomine	hm :-( and the newest version doesn't compile on my machine anymore...maybe if i'd compile some libs manually......
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22:21	markveidemanis	OldCoder
22:21	markveidemanis	I took a *Few* screenshots
22:21	markveidemanis	Well, its 1 GB
22:21	markveidemanis	jkjk
22:21	markveidemanis	29MB
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22:26	OldCoder	U.S. worlds going down for modifications
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22:27	markveidemanis	Wait, US?
22:27	markveidemanis	which servers are in the us
22:29	OldCoder	VanessaE, what patch should I use for the new moretrees?
22:29	VanessaE	OldCoder: just grab the latest moretrees and plantlife mods from git master.
22:29	OldCoder	I did
22:29	OldCoder	How do I patch it?
22:29	VanessaE	no need to apply any patches.
22:29	OldCoder	Sure?
22:29	VanessaE	they are mapgen-based now.
22:29	OldCoder	Will people be happier?
22:30	VanessaE	yes
22:30	RealBadAngel	http://realbadangel.pl/treegen_stuff.png
22:30	RealBadAngel	screenshot with inventory look of all trees related stuff
22:30	RealBadAngel	and im glad to inform that tree revolution in mt is comin VERY soon
22:30	RealBadAngel	stay tuned
22:30	* VanessaE	gets slightly out of tune ;)
22:30	markveidemanis	VanessaE, can you make a mod that deletes conifers:leaves, conifers:trunk
22:30	Uberi	RealBadAngel: say is that going into trunk? :O
22:30	VanessaE	markveidemanis: no.
22:30	markveidemanis	D:
22:30	Uberi	markveidemanis: it's pretty easy, register an AB< for those nodes that just removes them
22:30	Uberi	* ABM
22:31	markveidemanis	Help...
22:31	Uberi	if you want I can write you one real quick
22:31	markveidemanis	minetest.register_abm
22:31	markveidemanis	thats all i know
22:31	Uberi	OK, hold on for a bit
22:31	markveidemanis	ok,
22:31	markveidemanis	if im not here, plz give it to OldCoder
22:32	Uberi	sure
22:32	Uberi	almost done
22:32	RealBadAngel	happier? thats far too less said
22:32	OldCoder	hi
22:32	markveidemanis	and can you tell me how you did it?
22:32	markveidemanis	Hi!
22:32	Uberi	markveidemanis: I'll show you in a bit
22:33	markveidemanis	k
22:33	RealBadAngel	that is goin to change the look and the gamplay once and for all
22:33	markveidemanis	Oh god, more trees!
22:33	markveidemanis	HIDE FOR YOUR LIFE
22:34	Uberi	markveidemanis: completely untested: http://www.pasteall.org/38974
22:34	markveidemanis	trees are good as they are
22:34	OldCoder	any other mod changes?
22:34	markveidemanis	OC^
22:34	OldCoder	?
22:34	Uberi	markveidemanis: so just put that in your init.lua, and you've got the mod!
22:34	RealBadAngel	hold your axes ladies and gentelman ;)
22:34	OldCoder	Well?
22:34	OldCoder	any other mod changes?
22:35	markveidemanis	can you copy that into the cleanconifers folder
22:35	Uberi	markveidemanis: me? nope, I've got to do my work now :)
22:35	RealBadAngel	why youre thinkin bout conifers just?
22:35	RealBadAngel	there are lotsa more kinds of trees
22:36	markveidemanis	they are the only things that cause trouble;spawning in protected areas
22:36	markveidemanis	all else is fine
22:36	RealBadAngel	forget bout ANY trees related  mods from the past
22:36	Uberi	markveidemanis: I've been saying for a while now that we need a protector mod that overrides minetest.add_node()
22:36	RealBadAngel	and even forget bout default trees
22:37	markveidemanis	OldCoder: have you removed technic and mesecons, patched ores.lua, concrete.lua, removed the previously specified mods, added clean, enabled irc?
22:37	markveidemanis	**GASP
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22:38	Uberi	removed mesecons? why on earth would you want to do that?
22:38	markveidemanis	L_Lagg
22:38	markveidemanis	and not being used
22:38	OldCoder	marktraceur, I don't know what you mean by patched ores
22:38	OldCoder	Is that a new patch
22:38	OldCoder	If it is the sendspace file
22:38	marktraceur	I don't either
22:38	markveidemanis	decided to keep homedecor,OC
22:39	OldCoder	I told you I had no time
22:39	OldCoder	D:
22:39	OldCoder	Make up your mind!
22:39	RealBadAngel	markveidemanis, once again you ask for Technic deletion in front of me, i will let my dog bite you :P
22:39	markveidemanis	Heh.
22:39	markveidemanis	*removal
22:39	Muadtralk	why u remove technic?
22:39	markveidemanis	whi can't it be called tekkit
22:39	OldCoder	?!
22:39	OldCoder	Like that is relevant?
22:39	markveidemanis	would that be too minecrafty
22:40	OldCoder	"minecrafty" ?
22:40	Muadtralk	but its not tekkit
22:40	Uberi	markveidemanis: it would lead to massive confusion, for one
22:40	markveidemanis	Fine: M*necrafty
22:40	markveidemanis	technic is for SP
22:40	Uberi	markveidemanis: for example, it's hard enough to search for WorldEdit in google
22:40	markveidemanis	Heh
22:40	Uberi	you need to search for "worldedit minetest" to get anything relevant
22:40	markveidemanis	i wanna have worldedit irl
22:41	Uberi	that's because the MC WorldEdit is far more popular than ours
22:41	markveidemanis	Yep
22:41	Uberi	it's simply the fact of the matter
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22:41	markveidemanis	anyone care to see my screenies?
22:41	Uberi	sure
22:41	markveidemanis	of my server
22:41	markveidemanis	97%
22:42	markveidemanis	http://www.sendspace.com/file/sh56lk
22:42	markveidemanis	!up google.com
22:43	markveidemanis	http://www.sendspace.com/file/sh56lk
22:43	markveidemanis	tell me what you think
22:43	OldCoder	sapier, I don't support fire
22:43	markveidemanis	well, i have to go
22:43	OldCoder	sapier, Do any animals but animal_creeper need it?
22:43	markveidemanis	OC, can you look at the screens plz
22:43	OldCoder	No
22:43	OldCoder	sorry
22:43	OldCoder	no time
22:43	OldCoder	I told you
22:44	OldCoder	sapier, Do any animals but animal_creeper need it?
22:44	OldCoder	markveidemanis, see me again
22:44	markveidemanis	save the link for when you do have time
22:44	sapier	creeper and dm
22:44	OldCoder	If I disable them
22:44	OldCoder	All set?
22:44	sapier	but dm will work
22:44	OldCoder	It is aborting
22:44	OldCoder	on startup
22:44	markveidemanis	im going.Bye
22:44	OldCoder	c u
22:45	sapier	hmm delete them
22:45	OldCoder	Just delete the mods?
22:45	sapier	creeper and dm
22:45	OldCoder	Simple enough
22:45	sapier	yes
22:46	OldCoder	Will take a few more minutes to restart
22:57	OldCoder	NEWS
22:57	OldCoder	Worlds restarted
22:57	OldCoder	Please go see what is broken
22:57	OldCoder	Do conifers work correctly now?
22:57	* Kacey	wants to make a microsoft points code generator
22:57	OldCoder	And how do the new animals look?
22:57	OldCoder	Done
22:58	OldCoder
22:58	OldCoder	REQUEST
22:58	RealBadAngel	OldCoder, what bout EU?
22:58	OldCoder	Somebody give me coords for something new to screenshot
22:59	OldCoder	RealBadAngel, I plan to move it to a new EU VPS shortly
22:59	OldCoder	I cannot this weekend... the new VPS must be prepared
22:59	OldCoder	And there are real-life issues to deal with
22:59	OldCoder	This update right here
22:59	OldCoder	Is all I can manage
22:59	RealBadAngel	ok
22:59	OldCoder	REQUEST
22:59	OldCoder	Somebody give me coords for something new to screenshot
22:59	OldCoder	And test the new animals please
23:00	OldCoder	RealBadAngel, PM
23:00	RealBadAngel	wait for upcomin trees revolution
23:01	marktraceur	Did the mechanics of locked chests change somehow since 0.4.4?
23:02	sokomine	good there's google. someone had the same problem. calling cmake in the src dir caused the error. i'm quite sure i previously compiled when in src/ ... but maybe i'm mistaken
23:02	RealBadAngel	marktraceur, i dont think so
23:02	marktraceur	Hm.
23:02	RealBadAngel	why youre asking?
23:02	marktraceur	RealBadAngel: Just having trouble with them on my server, can't place a new one and open it
23:03	marktraceur	Old ones open fine, but new ones don't go
23:03	sokomine	oldcoder: did you remove all those mods only from one specific world or from all?
23:04	RealBadAngel	havent seen any changes to chests
23:04	RealBadAngel	only pipeworks
23:04	RealBadAngel	do you have them?
23:05	sokomine	if you did build a shared locked chest (they require special crafting and have another texture) then you need a key to open the lock. but if that's the case you'll get a message
23:05	OldCoder	sokomine, I do not understand the question
23:05	sokomine	was that mod removal specific to one of your worlds or all, oldcoder?
23:05	sokomine	i'm compiling right now so can't check yet :-)
23:05	OldCoder	REQUESTS 1. Test new animals 2. Check conifers 3. Give me new screenshots and coords
23:05	OldCoder	sokomine, I do not understand
23:05	* OldCoder	is on a short break
23:05	OldCoder	o/
23:06	sokomine	ok. not so important. relax a bit :-)
23:06	OldCoder	Somebody trap a new animal for me
23:07	OldCoder	Let me come and screenshot it
23:07	OldCoder	Or a barn
23:07	OldCoder	etc.
23:07	OldCoder
23:07	sokomine	which of your worlds, oldcoder?
23:08	PilzAdam	going to sleep now; bye
23:14	Kacey	hehe
23:14	Kacey	well that was usless
23:15	sokomine	ah. yes. definitely the newest type on oldcoders world
23:16	OldCoder	sokomine, any
23:17	sokomine	then come to port 30003 and beam to me. i've placed two sheep and have some more stored away
23:17	OldCoder	sokomine, t y
23:18	OldCoder	sokomine, On phone will come in a few minutes
23:18	OldCoder	starting now actually
23:18	OldCoder	Hold on
23:18	sokomine	they're definitley the newest one
23:18	sokomine	ok
23:19	OldCoder	coming
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23:25	kaeza	no documentation effor can counter this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4505
23:25	kaeza	effort*
23:25	kaeza	that's just plain hopeless
23:26	kaeza	...or a troll
23:26	Uberi	well if you don't extract the ZIP, you're not going very far :P
23:30	sokomine	ah. first lamb born
23:33	sapier	:-)
23:33	sapier	seems at least something is working
23:33	meldrian	goodNightEveryone
23:34	OldCoder
23:35	OldCoder	Does anybody else have a scene they wish to show me
23:35	OldCoder	For a screenshot?
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23:43	erlehmann	ASSUME i want to switch every block to a lego block
23:43	erlehmann	how would i start?
23:43	Uberi	aliases?
23:44	erlehmann	i mean how to have custom block shapes?
23:44	Uberi	oh, use nodeboxes
23:44	Uberi	they can make any node a set of axis aligned boxes
23:45	erlehmann	Uberi, example?
23:45	kaeza	just add a separate node on top of each other node for the studs and make it so by removing either the "studs" or the "block" removes both
23:46	Uberi	erlehmann: lemme check
23:46	kaeza	make sure the studs are buildable_to
23:46	Uberi	try this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2840
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23:50	Uberi	erlehmann: also: https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-API/wiki/nodes
23:52	kaeza	good night channel
23:52	Uberi	bye
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23:58	Dogzilla131	Hi all
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