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00:02 kaeza Cybersoft, http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Creating_texture_packs
00:02 kaeza oh crap wrong link
00:03 jojoa1997 !up diamondmining.no-ip.org 30000
00:04 jojoa1997 XD forgot no bots. i miss that one
00:04 kaeza Cybersoft, just name it as default_cactus.png
00:04 kaeza it can be any size
00:05 kaeza preferably 1:1 suck as 16x16, 32x32, etc
00:05 kaeza such*
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00:21 Oblivion1500 uhm hey guys, just going to tell you straight up im eating kangaroo
00:22 Oblivion1500 and its yummy
00:23 Zetetic Oblivion1500: what's it most like?
00:23 Oblivion1500 its jerky
00:23 Oblivion1500 and its tougher than beef jerky
00:23 Zetetic is it similar to cow jerky?
00:24 Zetetic Hmm, I think beef jerky is chewy enough
00:24 Oblivion1500 not really its tough, like.... i dont know
00:24 Zetetic Not an amazing recommendation :p
00:25 Oblivion1500 lol i like it
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00:25 Zetetic Fair play to you :)
00:25 Oblivion1500 came from australia
00:25 Zetetic I hope it's not quokka though
00:25 Zetetic Those are too cute to be food
00:26 Oblivion1500 idk it just says kangaroo meat
00:26 Zetetic Quokka is like a tiny kangaroo but isn't kangaroo(if you see what I mean)
00:26 Zetetic But over here apparently beef can mean horse...
00:26 Oblivion1500 i know, my friend had one
00:27 Oblivion1500 it was so cute and would jump all around the house
00:27 Zetetic Oh, do they like being pets?
00:27 Oblivion1500 yea this one was cool
00:27 Zetetic Now I just need someone to smuggle me some...
00:27 Oblivion1500 lol
00:28 Zetetic Or get a cat
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00:28 Octupus Hi every1 im back for a bit
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00:28 Oblivion1500 i want a monkey
00:28 Oblivion1500 hello
00:28 Zetetic They generally don't want to be pets
00:28 Oblivion1500 ill make it want to be a pet
00:29 Zetetic Ominous
00:29 Oblivion1500 no
00:30 OldCoder Oblivion1500, Hi
00:30 Oblivion1500 hey OldCoder!
00:30 Zetetic "Beatings will continue until morale improves"
00:31 Oblivion1500 not by the money im alpha monkey
00:31 Cybersoft cat can only have one feeling
00:31 Cybersoft deep contempt for anything else than itself
00:32 Oblivion1500 thats ok ill eat a cat too
00:32 Octupus Menche,if you need help in building il help build now if you want
00:32 Cybersoft ie: if a cat was an astrophysicist it would says the universe revolves around itself
00:33 Oblivion1500 how do you know thats not true?
00:33 Menche Octupus: ok
00:33 Menche server back up
00:34 Cybersoft well all the cats would be saying that
00:34 Menche well, in a few seconds...
00:34 Cybersoft you can't have N centers of the universe where N = the number of cats on the planet
00:34 Octupus K menche
00:35 Oblivion1500 you can have C where C is = to that of the center of the universe and that being you. or ( Everything)
00:36 Zetetic Every point in spacetime is the centre of the universe
00:36 Zetetic Including those points occupied by cats
00:37 Oblivion1500 if that were true it would be easy as jumping to teliport
00:37 * Zetetic backs away slowly
00:40 Cybersoft so has any of you done any bigmap?
00:40 Cybersoft I had a 24x24km map in minecraft, but it was taking 20gb on disk...
00:40 Cybersoft I read that minetest has no depth limit, so I suppose it will be even worse?
00:41 RealBadAngel if you will have such more spare time to fill it up? ;)
00:41 Cybersoft well that was kinda the reason for switching, minecraft isn't very friendly when building big worlds
00:41 Cybersoft even in worldedit it is very painful
00:42 Cybersoft worldedit can't copy construction over 150*150*150 and you can't tell the engine the generate a canyon on the fly with a specific direction and specific depth
00:42 Menche minetest has map limits: ~30000 in all directions
00:43 OldCoder Hi
00:43 Menche the map is a giant cube roughly 62,000x62,000x62,000
00:43 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/almost.png
00:43 Cybersoft so ~238000km^3 ?
00:43 RealBadAngel i got the treegen textures and stuff almost ready
00:44 RealBadAngel just some missing textures
00:44 RealBadAngel as on the screenshot
00:44 Cybersoft what about space on the disk if you have a map that big?
00:44 kaeza Cybersoft, disk space is not a problem
00:44 Cybersoft I can't imagine any hard drives being able to store it even if you used 1 bit per block
00:45 RealBadAngel have you thought how many time it would take to explore such area? :)
00:45 Cybersoft as this come to about  216 * 10^15 bits
00:45 kaeza Cybersoft, 238000km=238000000m
00:45 RealBadAngel just forget bout those "limits" hehehe
00:46 kaeza Cybersoft, 238000000 / 1024 / 1024 / 1024 = ??Gb
00:46 Cybersoft What i'd like to do is convert ad&d dungeons to minecraft / whatever
00:46 Cybersoft 238000km != 238000km^3
00:46 kaeza Cybersoft, type
00:46 RealBadAngel so just try to do that
00:46 kaeza err
00:46 kaeza double type
00:47 kaeza triple typo
00:47 kaeza lol
00:47 Cybersoft minecraft always got in the way, what I would like is to draw a 2d map
00:47 Cybersoft and have the game generate the 3d part
00:47 Cybersoft then I would just have to tweak it / add monsters / etc
00:47 RealBadAngel so use flat world
00:47 kaeza Cybersoft, having a 2d (or height map) does not allow for caves, etc
00:48 Cybersoft no, but for cubic dungeon it does the part
00:48 Cybersoft *the work
00:48 Cybersoft as for cave, maybe there could be some way to define to generate a random cave at this point or a random canyon with a certain depth and direction
00:49 Cybersoft I wanted to do some sort of building generator too, you know the height, width and lenght, the game generate the rest including the rooms on each floor
00:50 Cybersoft ie: I'd like some more building aids, that's all
00:51 Cybersoft to do something with the scale of an mmorpg using procedural techniques
00:51 Cybersoft ie: that zone is a seaport, so take the edges of the map near the water and build a sloped seafront with street lamps automatically
00:53 Octupus Menche,damn so much lag
00:55 Octupus Menche,I found guecity but its hiding from all the lagg xD
00:55 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/treegen
00:55 RealBadAngel ive uploaded current state of treegen related stuff
00:56 RealBadAngel tree spawners are there, planks, saplings
00:56 RealBadAngel and fruits
00:57 RealBadAngel missing just some textures, will make them later today
00:57 Cybersoft btw, kudos to the developpers
00:57 Cybersoft this is really stable for an open-source project and it is quite playable
00:58 RealBadAngel try some OldCoders servers to play
00:58 Cybersoft it's also very easy to define new blocks (unlike minecraft that requires decompilation/compilation and re-obfuscation)
00:58 RealBadAngel http://minetest.org/
00:59 Menche Octupus: poor ol' Pentium 4 :(   it used to work well...
00:59 Cybersoft I'm reading the topic about cylinder and sphere blocks, and they seems to complain the building of the block being done with cubes by the engine
00:59 RealBadAngel modding and coding the game is one of the reasons i moved to Minetest
00:59 Cybersoft As I understand it, there is one model of block in the game and it is cube-based
01:00 RealBadAngel but we do have nodeboxes also
01:00 RealBadAngel read about them
01:00 Cybersoft is that something I could maybe implement in the c++ code? being able to define a block based on a spherebox and all the basic meshes provided by the irrlicht engine?
01:01 RealBadAngel i not quite sure if that would fit voxel world
01:01 RealBadAngel its from definition a little squarish ;)
01:02 Cybersoft yes I understand that, homewer some minecraft clones (still voxel worlds) uses them to allow the players to make towers, pipes and the likes
01:02 Octupus menche i went back to the good server
01:02 RealBadAngel we do also have some (almost) round stuffs
01:02 Octupus because just to much lagg for me
01:03 RealBadAngel depends on how much detailed nodebox is
01:03 Octupus ohhh its down :/
01:03 Menche Octupus: i just restarted it to backup the map
01:03 Menche just in case the massive worledit goes wrong
01:03 Octupus Ok
01:03 Cybersoft but from what I understand from the thread it seems to be slow for making curves and the like, right?
01:03 RealBadAngel i need a pause, goin to take a nap, then will finish the textures
01:04 Cybersoft because it's based on building a sphere from little boxes
01:04 RealBadAngel yes
01:04 Menche Octupus: tis back up
01:04 Cybersoft when you say it wouldn't fit in a voxel world, did you mean visually or as in the way the engine store information on the world?
01:08 RealBadAngel visually
01:09 Octupus Menche,can i load it ?
01:20 Menche Octupus: the whole thing didn't save, should probably do it in sections
01:21 Octupus k
01:21 Octupus will you open the world in the fast pc
01:21 Octupus or slow 1
01:22 Menche fast one
01:22 Octupus il just do it in the slow 1
01:22 Octupus OOO ok
01:22 Octupus il wait
01:22 * Menche hopes minetest's required specs go back down
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01:25 Octupus Menche,Shud we save it building by building or just half the whole wthing
01:26 Menche i'm beginning to think building by building
01:26 Octupus K thats a good idea
01:26 Octupus but we got a serious problem
01:27 Menche ?
01:27 Octupus the map is covered under dirt
01:27 Menche oh, and worldedit doesn't save/load air, so we'll have to do some excavating
01:27 Octupus :O
01:27 Menche right
01:28 Octupus Menche,maybe only the good building
01:28 Menche yes
01:28 Octupus the not so good looking 1's we can leave alone
01:28 Menche how about i use what was transferred right to guess at the elevation
01:28 Menche and we it down
01:28 Octupus hmmm worth a try
01:29 Menche i'll have to make sure glue city is all the same elevation
01:29 Octupus ummm menche
01:29 Octupus the whole city is made up in dirt :/
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01:47 Octupus Menche,can you save my castle?
01:48 Octupus wait nvm i dont want it to haunt me with its uglyness
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01:54 Octupus Hi Lad
02:05 LAD hey
02:07 Octupus Menche,i got sealife cove
02:08 Menche ok
02:08 Menche im busy excavating glue cite Octupus
02:09 Menche *city
02:09 Octupus ok srry
02:09 Menche im doing it manually 'cuz worldedit leaves weird lighting glitches
02:10 Octupus :O
02:10 Menche my theres a lot of dirt to dig out
02:10 Octupus i can help
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02:24 babyface1031 hi Dogzilla131
02:24 Dogzilla131 Hi babyface1031
02:27 Cybersoft what do you mean by worldedit?
02:27 Cybersoft there is one for minetest?
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02:32 kaeza Cybersoft, yup :)
02:33 kaeza dunno what MC worldedit works
02:33 kaeza s/what/how/
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02:59 mauvebic <Menche> im doing it manually 'cuz worldedit leaves weird lighting glitches : theres a fix light command i think
03:04 Menche i don't see it anymore
03:04 Menche anyway, i tried a //light command at one point and it didn't work
03:06 mauvebic thats like the rotate tool that only works 1/4 of the time for me lol
03:06 mauvebic light works for me once every so tries lol
03:07 Menche when I was rebuilding the spawn, it only saved 3/4 of the city hall on the first try
03:09 mauvebic thats lua's garbage collection i'd guess - the array with the nodes gets too big before file writing
03:09 mauvebic i had to come up with something different to save ships with 30K nodes lol
03:09 mauvebic maxed out around 47K
03:12 Menche found a way to fix the lighting glitch: worldedit a bunch of superglowglass (from moreblocks) then remove it
03:13 mauvebic i think replacing air with air would do it too?
03:13 Menche well, it first occured because i replaced stone with air
03:13 mauvebic youre excavating your spawn city too?
03:13 Menche didn't need excavating
03:14 Menche only glue city was flattened out before it was built
03:14 mauvebic im digging under mine to add huge sublevels
03:14 * Menche wonders where the name "glue city" came from, lol
03:15 mauvebic the sky highway even connects to the underground highway lol
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03:16 mauvebic alot of skyscrapers on pillars atm too lol
03:17 Menche that the same world you've been posting occasional screenshots of? with the massive city?
03:17 mauvebic yep, its about to get a whole lot more massive lol
03:18 Menche how big is the file? my old server map was ~350 MB
03:18 Menche backing it up was a bit of a pain, and it was impossible to /clearobjects lol
03:19 mauvebic 292
03:19 mauvebic and clearobjects crashes every time lol
03:19 Cybersoft menche: how big was your map?
03:19 mauvebic i guess theres a limit on that lol
03:19 Cybersoft ie: depth and area?
03:19 Menche Cybersoft: i don't know
03:20 Menche it wasn't all one solid cube, of course
03:20 Menche running /clearobjects filled all my ram and swap then crashed, every time
03:21 Menche 4G of ram filled running it on a 350M map, wonder how /clearobjects works, used a lot of extra space
03:22 mauvebic i think we need a per-chunk clearobjects
03:22 mauvebic sounds like a runaway process otherwise
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03:24 Cybersoft personally, what I think is needed is a good overview of the technology
03:24 Cybersoft what is a voxel, what are chunks, how is the data stored, how many cubes are there per block etc
03:25 mauvebic it took me a year to find out a chunk is 16^3 nodes lol
03:25 Menche isn't a chunk called a mapblock in minetest?
03:26 Cybersoft yes, but my point is that understanding the technology is important to be able to contribute
03:26 Menche yes
03:26 Cybersoft that would cover what techniques were used too, so peoples can read up on gpu gems, gamedev etc...
03:27 Cybersoft and what the current issues / priorities are
03:27 Cybersoft from a quick review of the topics it seem that the goal is to keep minetest playable on older computers, but a sizable amount of peoples wants shader / 3d models etc
03:30 Cybersoft I heard about the documentation effort tomorrow and from the point of a newcomer those two overview topics should be covered
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04:01 Muadtralk1 goodbye #minetest
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04:21 Kacey joined #minetest
04:22 Kacey hey guys i am on my xbox
04:23 Kacey hello?
04:23 Kacey bbiab
04:24 kaeza hey Kacey
04:35 Infinity_69 joined #minetest
04:35 Infinity_69 hi guys
04:35 Infinity_69 i have some bad news
04:35 Menche hi
04:36 Infinity_69 my dad wants me to go to rehab
04:36 Infinity_69 and thats where things get fun
04:36 Infinity_69 i wont go, instead im going to another city
04:36 Infinity_69 :D
04:37 Infinity_69 im gonna go live with my mom...
04:37 Infinity_69 Kaeza, yes, i WILL forgive her...
04:37 Infinity_69 and ill take back EVERY bad thing i ever said to/about her
04:37 Infinity_69 btw, menche
04:37 Infinity_69 do you wanna be a Pre-Alpha tester?
04:38 Menche of what?
04:38 Infinity_69 for my program
04:38 Infinity_69 HVGaming Portable
04:38 Infinity_69 it isnt quite done yet, but its still a pre alpha
04:39 Menche what is it?
04:39 Infinity_69 its a program made in Gambas 3
04:39 Infinity_69 :D
04:39 Infinity_69 it took me hours to make :D
04:39 Infinity_69 and alot of code :/
04:45 Infinity_69 menche
04:45 Infinity_69 its done
04:45 Infinity_69 :)
04:45 Infinity_69 wait a sec
04:45 Infinity_69 oh, btw, now its an alpha
04:45 Infinity_69 0.1.0
04:45 Infinity_69 yay :)
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04:51 Infinity_69 Nikondork_
04:52 Infinity_69 do you wanna be an Alpha tester?
04:52 Nikondork_ pardon?
04:52 Infinity_69 i made a portable version of my website
04:52 Infinity_69 do you want to test it?
04:53 Infinity_69 there are currently versions for 2 op.systems
04:53 Infinity_69 Debian & Ubuntu
04:53 Nikondork_ I'll pass
04:53 Infinity_69 ok :/
04:53 Infinity_69 Menche
04:53 Nikondork_ why are you going to rehab?
04:53 Infinity_69 how did you know?
04:53 Infinity_69 oh...
04:53 Infinity_69 the _...
04:53 Infinity_69 you lagged out huh
04:53 Infinity_69 :/
04:54 Infinity_69 well, my dad thinks im addicted to computers
04:54 Infinity_69 so he's sending me to rehab :/
04:54 Nikondork_ oh
04:55 Infinity_69 but why dont you <:?
04:55 Nikondork_ here I thought it was something drug related and serious
04:55 Infinity_69 i got it :D
04:55 Infinity_69 no, no :D
04:55 Infinity_69 he's okay with me doing drugs
04:55 Infinity_69 hes a drug addict himself
04:55 Dogzilla131 kaeza
04:55 Nikondork lovely
04:55 Infinity_69 hi Kaeza
04:55 Infinity_69 thanks
04:55 Infinity_69 i thiught you'd like it :D
04:55 Infinity_69 hi DogZilla
04:56 Infinity_69 hey dawg, you wanna test my portable, light-weight utility?
04:56 kaeza Nikondork, ??
04:56 Nikondork ??
04:57 Infinity_69 kaeza
04:57 Infinity_69 i made a program
04:57 Infinity_69 its called the HVGaming Portable
04:57 Infinity_69 you wanna test it?
04:58 Infinity_69 i even made an instalation package :D
05:00 Infinity_69 how did my app get in the Ubuntu SW Center?
05:01 Infinity_69 srsly :/
05:01 Infinity_69 wait...
05:01 Infinity_69 so thats how the .deb works eh?
05:01 Infinity_69 http://hvgaming.bugs3.com/portable
05:01 Infinity_69 go there :d
05:07 kaeza ^^^^^
05:07 kaeza ?
05:08 Infinity_69 hi kaeza
05:08 Infinity_69 please try out my portable version :D
05:13 Infinity_69 KAEZA?!?!
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05:16 Kacey hello
05:17 Menche hi
05:17 Infinity_69 kacey
05:17 Kacey i am on my xbox :p
05:17 Infinity_69 can you be a alpha tester?
05:17 Infinity_69 oh
05:17 Infinity_69 FuCK
05:17 Infinity_69 sorry...
05:17 Infinity_69 Menche
05:17 Kacey haha ya my laptop stoped working for a while
05:18 Infinity_69 well, thats what you get if you have windows/mac
05:18 Kacey afk
05:18 Infinity_69 UBUNTUFTW
05:18 Infinity_69 keyboard?
05:18 Infinity_69 :D
05:18 Infinity_69 afgp maybe
05:18 Infinity_69 Away From Gamepad
05:18 Kacey haha
05:18 Kacey but seriously
05:20 Infinity_69 Menche /ignore 'd me, didnt he >:o
05:20 Menche ?
05:20 Menche there's only .debs
05:21 Infinity_69 yeah :/
05:21 Infinity_69 i didnt make them
05:21 Infinity_69 GB3 did
05:21 Infinity_69 Gambas 3
05:22 Infinity_69 you want the SC?
05:22 Infinity_69 the Source Code
05:23 Menche ok
05:23 Infinity_69 then wait
05:24 Infinity_69 ok go there again
05:24 Infinity_69 to ./downloads
05:24 Kacey back
05:24 Kacey btw im using a chatpad
05:24 Infinity_69 ok :D
05:24 Menche hi Kacey
05:25 * Kacey is going to heaven because of xbox lie
05:25 Kacey live, even
05:26 Infinity_69 menche, done?
05:26 kaeza I'm chatting through my toaster, so?
05:26 Infinity_69 Menche, just asking, are you russian?
05:26 Menche Infinity_69 i extracted one of the .debs
05:26 Menche and no
05:26 Infinity_69 cause Menche reminds me of the word Less
05:26 * Kacey chats through chuck norris
05:26 Infinity_69 that is spelled like Menche
05:26 Infinity_69 :D
05:27 * Infinity_69 chats throught HVGaming Portable
05:27 Infinity_69 Menche
05:27 Infinity_69 you dont extract a .deb
05:27 Infinity_69 you open it
05:27 Infinity_69 >:/
05:27 Infinity_69 with the Ubuntu SW center
05:27 Infinity_69 dumbass...
05:27 Menche a .deb is an archive that can be extracted
05:28 kaeza *Chuck Norris does not use a computer to chat. he stares at the bytes and they run to deliver the message
05:28 Infinity_69 but its an installer1
05:28 Menche ubuntu sw center is, well, only on ubuntu
05:28 Infinity_69 :D
05:28 Menche and it is also an archive
05:28 Infinity_69 you dont use ubuntu?
05:28 Menche Arch FTW!
05:28 Infinity_69 there isnt a version for that yert
05:28 Infinity_69 yet*
05:28 Infinity_69 only Debian & Ubuntu
05:28 Infinity_69 sorry...
05:28 Infinity_69 maybe compile it?
05:29 Infinity_69 from the sc
05:29 Menche gambas seems to be a scripting language. it will run on anything with a gambas runtime
05:29 Infinity_69 rly?
05:29 Menche there was a .gambas file in the .deb
05:29 Infinity_69 hm... :/
05:29 Menche it runs
05:29 Infinity_69 yes
05:29 Infinity_69 it works?
05:29 Menche yes
05:29 Infinity_69 oh, then its cool :D
05:29 Menche and btw, a binary compiled on Ubuntu will likely run on any other Linux, and vice versa
05:30 Kacey brb again
05:30 Infinity_69 hey what should i include in the documentary except the Licence and the Current Version?
05:30 Kacey nvm bbl
05:30 Infinity_69 LAWL
05:30 Infinity_69 xD
05:31 Infinity_69 Menche
05:31 kaeza it's funny seeing Menche talking to himself
05:31 Infinity_69 what should i add?
05:31 Infinity_69 or kaeza
05:31 kaeza oh right
05:31 Infinity_69 what should i add there
05:31 Menche ?
05:31 Infinity_69 :D
05:31 kaeza I /ignored Infinity_69
05:31 kaeza lol
05:31 Infinity_69 I dont always get /ignore 'd, but when i do, its by Kaeza
05:32 kaeza nope
05:32 kaeza It's by everyone here
05:32 kaeza (BTW I just /unignored you)
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05:32 * Infinity_69 doesnt always have sex. But when he does, he's hand is he's friend.
05:34 Infinity_69 i dont always get punk'd, but when i do, its by Barrack Obama
05:34 kaeza Infinity_69 does not always use the "I don't always..." guy, but when he does, he says nonsense
05:35 Infinity_69 Yo dawg, i herd you like  "I don't always..." so i put an "I don't always..." in an "I don't always..." so you can always while you always
05:35 * Menche is allergic to stupid memes
05:36 * Infinity_69 punches Menche, because he's name looks russian...
05:37 kaeza accualy is +qolan
05:37 Infinity_69 what?!
05:37 Infinity_69 btw, kaeza, what does Menche mean in russian?
05:39 Infinity_69 my website is AOK :D
05:40 Infinity_69 how do i set a charset?
05:40 Infinity_69 <meta charset=URF-8>?
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05:48 Infinity_69 TheZenKitteh
05:48 Infinity_69 try out my new look
05:48 Infinity_69 http://hvgaming.bugs3.com
05:49 TheZenKitteh matrix colors lol
05:51 TheZenKitteh I've redone my industrial mods textures and testing them out
05:54 Infinity_69 oh and hover the links, TheZenKitteh
05:54 Infinity_69 the fb, tw and steam logos :d
05:59 * OldCoder will return in a little while
06:04 Infinity_69 Is anybody there?
06:05 TheZenKitteh no
06:05 TheZenKitteh lol
06:06 Infinity_69 TheZenKitteh
06:06 Infinity_69 Do you love Facebook?
06:06 TheZenKitteh Infinity_69
06:06 TheZenKitteh no I don't use facebook
06:06 TheZenKitteh I have my own name for it.. fackf*ck
06:06 TheZenKitteh facef*ck*
06:06 Infinity_69 Then own a piece of it here
06:06 Infinity_69 http://openbook.etoro.com/facebook?dl=30000305&amp;utm_medium=Media&amp;utm_source=705&amp;utm_content=3835&amp;utm_serial=AN737368.aspx&amp;utm_campaign=AN737368.aspx&amp;utm_term=#/overview/
06:07 Infinity_69 starts as low as $50 a piece
06:07 * TheZenKitteh doesn't want facef*ck
06:07 Infinity_69 and look how low the stats are xD
06:07 TheZenKitteh if I wanted a facef*ck id go to a gay bar
06:07 TheZenKitteh lol
06:08 Infinity_69 hey do you play OA?
06:08 TheZenKitteh OA?
06:08 Infinity_69 Open Arena
06:08 Infinity_69 0.8.8
06:08 TheZenKitteh sounds familiar but no
06:08 Infinity_69 http://www.moddb.com/games/openarena/downloads/openarena-088-full-version
06:08 Infinity_69 go
06:08 Infinity_69 download
06:09 Infinity_69 its like Quake arena
06:09 Infinity_69 but free and open source
06:09 Infinity_69 Open Arena
06:09 TheZenKitteh never played quake
06:09 Infinity_69 get it/
06:09 Infinity_69 LAWL
06:09 Infinity_69 even Quake Live?
06:09 TheZenKitteh nope
06:09 TheZenKitteh I've played blood
06:09 TheZenKitteh released 1998
06:09 Infinity_69 ok, idk wtf is blood...
06:09 Infinity_69 xD
06:09 Infinity_69 like DOOM?!
06:10 TheZenKitteh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVWw4oPjA40
06:11 Infinity_69 i saw it
06:11 Infinity_69 and i remember that :D
06:11 Infinity_69 i died near the cemetary
06:11 Infinity_69 xD
06:12 TheZenKitteh I got pretty far in it
06:12 TheZenKitteh rather fun
06:12 TheZenKitteh lol
06:14 Infinity_69 hey
06:14 TheZenKitteh I've also played and beat hexxen
06:14 Infinity_69 idk what that is eitherNO LONKS!
06:14 Infinity_69 hey TheZenKitteh
06:14 Infinity_69 I love you
06:14 Infinity_69 no-homo
06:14 TheZenKitteh whatsa lonk?
06:14 TheZenKitteh lol I love you too.. yes homo?
06:15 Infinity_69 link
06:15 Infinity_69 no-homo!
06:15 TheZenKitteh hexxen was fun
06:15 TheZenKitteh hard but fun
06:15 Infinity_69 well how about Super Meat Boy?
06:15 TheZenKitteh nope
06:15 TheZenKitteh I've not played many games
06:15 TheZenKitteh lol
06:18 Infinity_69 well the IG
06:18 TheZenKitteh I should not have watched this video
06:18 Infinity_69 Impossible Game
06:18 Infinity_69 xD
06:18 TheZenKitteh lol
06:18 Infinity_69 i know a video that will cheer you up
06:18 Infinity_69 wait here
06:18 Infinity_69 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBCjejaZbJo
06:18 TheZenKitteh if curious youtube search for daveywaveyraw penis docking.. no nudity but totally adult topic
06:19 TheZenKitteh lol seen it before
06:20 Infinity_69 really?
06:20 Infinity_69 fuck...
06:21 Infinity_69 http://youtu.be/oBCjejaZbJo?t=2m
06:21 Infinity_69 look
06:21 TheZenKitteh I've been meaning to watch full metal jacket but never gota round to it
06:21 TheZenKitteh seen it too
06:21 TheZenKitteh one thing I have done is watch a LOT of videos
06:21 Infinity_69 fuck...
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06:22 Infinity_69 hey i wanna see Obama do those flips
06:22 Infinity_69 is there a seperate video?
06:22 TheZenKitteh im probably within top ten of those who has watched the most youtube videos
06:22 TheZenKitteh on my old account I think I had watched over 100K videos since I got that account
06:22 TheZenKitteh lol
06:24 TheZenKitteh lol drill sergeants
06:25 Infinity_69 did you know...
06:26 Infinity_69 wait let me start again...
06:26 Infinity_69 Hey Guys!
06:26 Infinity_69 did You Know...
06:26 Infinity_69 that Here, In Estonia
06:26 Infinity_69 there's an energy drink
06:26 Infinity_69 named Hustler
06:26 Infinity_69 xD
06:27 Infinity_69 *Spongebob makes a hand wave over his head*
06:27 Infinity_69 Nobody Cares
06:27 TheZenKitteh lol there's an energy drink here in america with bob marleys face on it
06:27 TheZenKitteh could be a relaxation drink don't remember
06:27 TheZenKitteh seen it once
06:28 Infinity_69 lol :D
06:30 Infinity_69 http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eivNS2snTU0/TaIez-JGYtI/AAAAAAAABw4/J4fUQ9X_dOQ/s1600/marleysmellowmood.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.possessedbycaffeine.com/2011/04/marleys-mellow-mood-relaxation-drink.html&amp;h=350&amp;w=350&amp;sz=30&amp;tbnid=Bg-durFv8mfZvM:&amp;tbnh=90&amp;tbnw=90&amp;zoom=1&amp;usg=__cGG7g6-DbDsa3QTlsPLUqzu8_0A=&amp;docid=vcAzv0qU5ZEgeM&amp;hl=et&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=Uj36UPXIHYbB0gWknYD4DA&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=0CDkQ9QEwAw&amp;dur=312http://www.go
06:30 Infinity_69 you mean this one?
06:31 TheZenKitteh yea
06:31 TheZenKitteh lol
06:51 Infinity_69 joined #minetest
06:52 Infinity_69 hey is there somebody that is "Online" all the time?
06:52 Infinity_69 i need somebody to guard my channel
06:52 TheZenKitteh that's where bots come in
06:52 Infinity_69 #hvgaming
06:52 Infinity_69 well who will host them?
06:53 Infinity_69 all the time = 24/7
06:54 Infinity_69 hey...
06:54 Infinity_69 is it possible to run a bot throught a php script that ran on a website?
06:56 Infinity_69 kaeza
06:56 Infinity_69 im making a bot :d
06:56 Infinity_69 that will guard/keep open/log the channel
06:56 Infinity_69 #hvgaming
06:56 Infinity_69 umm...
06:57 Infinity_69 how do i connect it?
06:58 OldCoder hi
06:58 OldCoder VanessaE, awake?
06:58 Infinity_69 OC
06:58 OldCoder Folks
06:58 Infinity_69 help me please?
06:58 OldCoder I wish to disable conifers
06:58 OldCoder Infinity_69, what do you need?
06:58 Infinity_69 http://www.wildphp.com/
06:58 OldCoder no time to go elsewhere
06:58 OldCoder Infinity_69, what do you need?
06:58 Infinity_69 how do i connect the bot to a channel?
06:59 OldCoder That is usually in a configuration
06:59 OldCoder file
06:59 OldCoder For the bot
06:59 Infinity_69 its a php bot
06:59 Infinity_69 ok
06:59 OldCoder You run it on a VPS
06:59 Infinity_69 let me see...
06:59 Infinity_69 no
06:59 Infinity_69 its on my website :/
06:59 OldCoder Fine
06:59 Infinity_69 config.php?
06:59 OldCoder Then you run it in a webhost
06:59 OldCoder probably
06:59 OldCoder probably config.php
06:59 * OldCoder is shutting down worlds
07:00 OldCoder anybody know about conifers?
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07:00 Infinity_69 http://hvgaming.bugs3.com/phpircbot/pogosheep-IRC-Bot-7c1fd3e/phpbot404.php
07:00 Infinity_69 look
07:00 OldCoder I can't
07:00 OldCoder go on
07:00 Infinity_69 an error
07:00 Infinity_69 why not?!
07:01 OldCoder No time
07:01 Infinity_69 oh :/
07:01 OldCoder Explain what you need
07:01 Infinity_69 theres an error!
07:01 Infinity_69 i dont understand!
07:01 OldCoder What is the error?
07:01 OldCoder Go on...
07:01 OldCoder What is the error?
07:01 Infinity_69 Warning: Unexpected character in input: '\' (ASCII=92) state=1 in /home/u112478165/public_html/phpircbot/pogosheep-IRC-Bot-7c1fd3e/phpbot404.php on line 35
07:01 Infinity_69 Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING in /home/u112478165/public_html/phpircbot/pogosheep-IRC-Bot-7c1fd3e/phpbot404.php on line 35
07:02 OldCoder Infinity_69, can you
07:02 OldCoder post a ZIP file
07:02 OldCoder containing that PHP file?
07:02 Infinity_69 umm...sure
07:02 OldCoder I will review
07:02 Infinity_69 http://hvgaming.bugs3.com/phpircbot/
07:02 Infinity_69 the .zip is it
07:03 OldCoder R
07:03 OldCoder ?!
07:04 OldCoder Infinity_69, what OS are you running this on?
07:04 VanessaE OldCoder: in moretrees, init.lua comment out lines 95 through 117.
07:04 OldCoder Where did this code come from?
07:04 Infinity_69 on the bot?
07:04 VanessaE that'll disable the conifers spawning abm.
07:04 OldCoder VanessaE, k
07:04 Infinity_69 i said, that...wait
07:04 VanessaE or lines 73 through 94 to disable the jungle trees.
07:04 Infinity_69 http://www.wildphp.com/
07:04 OldCoder VanessaE, is there a problem with the jungle trees?
07:04 OldCoder Infinity_69, what OS are you running this on?
07:04 Infinity_69 the server?
07:05 VanessaE what has already been spawned will remain, and if someone plants a sapling, that will still grow eventually, but newly-spawned trees won't happen then.
07:05 OldCoder Infinity_69, this code will not work
07:05 Infinity_69 i think its linux
07:05 OldCoder Infinity_69, this code will not work
07:05 OldCoder throw it away
07:05 Infinity_69 why
07:05 OldCoder It is some weird thing
07:05 OldCoder Not normal
07:05 OldCoder Broken
07:05 OldCoder Windows
07:05 Infinity_69 >:/
07:05 Infinity_69 oh
07:05 OldCoder Throw it away
07:05 OldCoder Sorry
07:05 VanessaE OldCoder: nothing that isn't wrong with conifers e.g. people I guess don't like the idea of moving their structures away from the spawn areas :-)
07:05 Infinity_69 so it needs windows?
07:05 OldCoder VanessaE, people say they don't decay!
07:05 OldCoder Infinity_69, Apparently
07:05 OldCoder Or something else
07:05 OldCoder Infinity_69, the code has \ in it
07:06 OldCoder This is not normal PHP
07:06 Infinity_69 yeah i saw that :/
07:06 OldCoder I don't know what it is but it won't work!
07:06 OldCoder Throw it away
07:06 Infinity_69 btw, is it possible to run a irc bot on a website and will it work?
07:06 OldCoder Infinity_69, I don't quite understand
07:06 Infinity_69 explain...
07:06 VanessaE OldCoder: strange, because leaf decay is still enabled for them
07:06 OldCoder Infinity_69, I don't quite understand
07:06 Infinity_69 when i upload a irc bot...
07:06 OldCoder VanessaE, they say no decay
07:06 Infinity_69 to my website
07:06 VanessaE note that afaik conifers drop items to the ground on decay
07:06 Infinity_69 and go to a .php script...
07:07 Infinity_69 it will start...
07:07 Infinity_69 right?
07:07 OldCoder VanessaE, PM
07:07 Infinity_69 then could the php script
07:07 kaeza VanessaE, can you make conifers behave like the normal trees?
07:07 Infinity_69 connect to a irc channel
07:07 VanessaE kaeza: behave in what way?
07:07 VanessaE Infinity_69: stay on topic please.
07:07 kaeza in that only saplings are dropped
07:07 Infinity_69 what?
07:07 kaeza not leaves
07:07 VanessaE and NO BOTS
07:07 Infinity_69 i am
07:07 Infinity_69 btw, OldCoder
07:07 VanessaE kaeza: yeah that's possible, I just never though to do that
07:07 Infinity_69 can you host a bot for me maybe?
07:08 Infinity_69 it would be easier
07:08 Infinity_69 :)
07:08 Infinity_69 cause i see you online all the time :D
07:08 Infinity_69 you never leave
07:08 Infinity_69 you..ugh...
07:08 OldCoder Infinity_69, Not in the near future
07:08 Infinity_69 oh...
07:08 OldCoder I have some things coming up
07:08 Infinity_69 VanessaE?
07:08 Infinity_69 maybe you?
07:09 VanessaE NO BOTS!
07:09 Infinity_69 not here
07:09 Infinity_69 on my channel
07:09 Infinity_69 #hvgaming
07:09 VanessaE (and no, I can't and won't host one)
07:09 Infinity_69 so that it could be online all the time
07:09 Infinity_69 why not?
07:09 Infinity_69 OC
07:09 Infinity_69 maybe you could be on the server with OP priv...
07:10 Infinity_69 just like you are here :)
07:10 Infinity_69 OldCoder
07:10 OldCoder Infinity_69, Hi
07:10 Infinity_69 maybe you could be on the server with OP priv...
07:10 Infinity_69 just like you are here :)
07:10 OldCoder Infinity_69, I am fixing my worlds ATM
07:10 Infinity_69 oh :/
07:11 OldCoder Infinity_69, I need to work on the worlds right now
07:11 OldCoder So you and others can play
07:11 Infinity_69 ok
07:13 VanessaE Infinity_69: please stop flooding.
07:13 Infinity_69 im not
07:13 Infinity_69 VanessaE
07:13 Infinity_69 could you
07:13 Infinity_69 WAIT NO
07:13 OldCoder ??
07:15 Infinity_69 OldCoder, help me <:"(
07:15 Infinity_69 VanessaE wants to +q/+b me <:"(
07:16 VanessaE Infinity_69: you are jabbering on about this hvgaming thing, bots, and other stuff unrelated to MT.
07:17 Infinity_69 still... :/
07:17 VanessaE this is offtopic and annoying because you're barely giving anyone else room to talk.
07:17 Infinity_69 where should i ask for help then?
07:17 OldCoder Hi
07:17 OldCoder Infinity_69, You can PM me
07:17 OldCoder In a few minutes
07:17 OldCoder not right now
07:17 Infinity_69 ok
07:18 Infinity_69 say when
07:18 OldCoder Few minutes wait please
07:18 OldCoder k
07:18 OldCoder Infinity_69, let me finish world updates
07:18 kaeza http://blog.cheezburger.com/community/celebrate-internet-freedom-day/
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07:30 VanessaE anyone feel like looking at some slow code and offering some speedups? ;-)
07:30 Infinity_69 nope!
07:31 VanessaE :P
07:32 Infinity_69 <:P
07:32 Infinity_69 >:P
07:32 Infinity_69 <
07:32 Infinity_69 >
07:32 Infinity_69 >
07:32 Infinity_69 <
07:32 Infinity_69 >
07:32 Infinity_69 <
07:32 Infinity_69 >
07:32 Infinity_69 <
07:32 Infinity_69 >
07:32 Infinity_69 <
07:32 Infinity_69 >
07:32 Infinity_69 <
07:32 Infinity_69 >
07:32 Infinity_69 <
07:32 TheZenKitteh FLOOD DETECTED
07:32 Infinity_69 yeah, no shit sherlock!
07:33 TheZenKitteh BEGINNING SELF DESTRUCT MODE
07:33 Infinity_69 rowling.freenode.net- *** Message to #minetest throttled due to flooding
07:33 * TheZenKitteh pulls out a nuke
07:33 * TheZenKitteh sets timer
07:33 * Infinity_69 has just shot TheZenKitteh
07:33 TheZenKitteh 5
07:33 TheZenKitteh 4
07:33 TheZenKitteh ...
07:33 * Infinity_69 shoots the nuke
07:33 Infinity_69 1!!!!
07:33 * TheZenKitteh fuse FAILs
07:33 * Infinity_69 BOOM
07:34 * markveidemanis Pulls out a Bazooka
07:34 * markveidemanis kills everyone
07:34 Infinity_69 was kicked by VanessaE: STOP FLOODING
07:34 Infinity_69 joined #minetest
07:34 markveidemanis He's using some 3G
07:34 * Infinity_69 hates VanessaE, because she is a total Bi*ch
07:35 markveidemanis +b...
07:35 Infinity_69 and you use 1g xD
07:35 markveidemanis 4G!
07:35 VanessaE my husband and most everyone else here would disagree with you, Infinity_69.
07:35 Infinity_69 the 1st generation connection :D
07:35 Infinity_69 see mark?
07:35 Infinity_69 wait what?!
07:35 Infinity_69 i mis-read it
07:35 Infinity_69 i hoped for this
07:36 * Infinity_69 hoped "<@VanessaE> my husband and most everyone else here would agree with you, Infinity_69."
07:36 VanessaE *dis*agree.
07:36 Infinity_69 **Agree
07:36 Infinity_69 xD
07:36 TheZenKitteh I like vanessae
07:36 TheZenKitteh lol
07:36 * Infinity_69 agrees with /me
07:36 Infinity_69 left #minetest
07:37 iHateVanessaE joined #minetest
07:37 iHateVanessaE i hate you, bitch!
07:37 iHateVanessaE i hate you!
07:37 iHateVanessaE i didnt choose this1
07:37 iHateVanessaE its time to play something!
07:37 * VanessaE grumbles.
07:37 * TheZenKitteh +b ihatevanessa.. o wait not an op here
07:37 iHateVanessaE yeah, no shit, sherlock!
07:37 iHateVanessaE was kicked by VanessaE: iHateVanessaE
07:38 VanessaE bye bye.
07:38 TheZenKitteh lol
07:38 markveidemanis HAHA
07:39 OldCoder Oh Lord
07:40 markveidemanis what was his name?
07:40 markveidemanis The spammer
07:40 TheZenKitteh infinity_69
07:40 VanessaE Infinity_69.
07:40 markveidemanis k
07:40 markveidemanis /mode #minetest +b shows it
07:41 markveidemanis But dont *enquieten* the channel like last time... :D
07:41 TheZenKitteh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5Izm1LQfw4
07:41 markveidemanis == #minetest *!*MarkBot@*.197.127.128.threembb.co.uk thexyz!~xyz@minetest.ru 1357582629
07:41 markveidemanis ^ Why?
07:41 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, I am updating Industrial
07:42 OldCoder and more stuff
07:42 TheZenKitteh cool ty
07:42 markveidemanis ansl moltenbot is quiet
07:42 OldCoder No, ty
07:44 OldCoder O.K. I am removing conifers, stopping jungle trees from spawning, updating Industrial
07:44 OldCoder Anything else?
07:45 * OldCoder assumes not
07:45 markveidemanis Wait...
07:45 markveidemanis Mods list plz
07:45 OldCoder ?
07:45 OldCoder Where?
07:45 Oblivion1500 oh hey, its mark
07:45 OldCoder http://minetest.org/
07:45 markveidemanis MarkTwain
07:45 markveidemanis k
07:45 OldCoder Oblivion1500, got desired changes?
07:45 OldCoder http://minetest.org/
07:45 OldCoder Close to current
07:46 OldCoder May be off slightly
07:46 Oblivion1500 uhm.. not now but when the lava suit is updated i will
07:46 OldCoder http://minetest.org/modsets.html
07:46 markveidemanis I need the list
07:47 Oblivion1500 what list?
07:47 Oblivion1500 ohhh
07:47 OldCoder markveidemanis, ^
07:47 OldCoder http://minetest.org/modsets.html
07:47 markveidemanis smth.txt
07:47 OldCoder ?
07:47 Oblivion1500 you can download the modsets and your list is right there along with all the stuff
07:47 OldCoder any more changes?
07:47 OldCoder It is not current
07:47 OldCoder But close
07:48 markveidemanis http://minetest.org/[???].txt
07:48 OldCoder No other changes?
07:48 Oblivion1500 what was just added Oldcoder?
07:48 OldCoder ??
07:48 OldCoder I do not understand
07:48 OldCoder Oblivion1500, Scroll up
07:48 OldCoder Or did you just join?
07:48 markveidemanis [???] - modslist or smth
07:49 OldCoder markveidemanis, I do not understand at all
07:49 OldCoder There is no more time
07:49 * OldCoder proceeds
07:49 markveidemanis Remove glooptest
07:50 OldCoder Too late
07:50 OldCoder I asked and asked
07:50 * OldCoder sighs
07:50 Oblivion1500 he gave you the modlist but you can download all the mods he adds just by going to your server and downloading it. he doesent have a mod-list.txt just a source with all the mods
07:50 OldCoder Wait, then
07:50 markveidemanis Spleef things///
07:50 markveidemanis ...
07:50 OldCoder ?
07:50 OldCoder What?
07:50 OldCoder Do what?
07:50 OldCoder Be specific
07:50 markveidemanis Justnoticed the mod
07:50 * TheZenKitteh will likely update other mods including industrial again sometime this coming week but unsure when. gonna try to do better textures for them all
07:51 markveidemanis Remove glooptest
07:51 OldCoder markveidemanis, fine
07:51 Oblivion1500 This is going to be interesting.....
07:51 markveidemanis and cactusmod
07:51 OldCoder markveidemanis, I keep asking
07:51 OldCoder you
07:52 OldCoder Make A List!
07:52 OldCoder Too late
07:52 OldCoder I have removed glooptest
07:52 OldCoder I don't know what cactusmod is
07:52 markveidemanis ok, the rest is no big deal
07:52 markveidemanis It's fine
07:52 markveidemanis have you updated mods?
07:52 OldCoder ?
07:52 OldCoder Explain
07:52 OldCoder Reword that
07:52 markveidemanis Can you update Pipeworks?
07:52 OldCoder I did
07:53 Oblivion1500 hey mark, when the server comes back up you should unprotect my house in the sky.. i cant do anything to it
07:53 markveidemanis Ok
07:54 markveidemanis il grant you as the owner
07:54 markveidemanis and i thought i did...
07:54 Oblivion1500 i thought you did too, but i recently went to it and i cant touch anything
07:55 markveidemanis il grant you as the owner this time
07:55 markveidemanis not user
07:55 markveidemanis so you can grant other peopleaccess to it
07:55 markveidemanis people - access
07:56 Oblivion1500 great!
07:56 markveidemanis but then can i access it...
07:56 markveidemanis :D
07:56 markveidemanis guess not...
07:56 markveidemanis thats all later
07:56 Oblivion1500 just remove it.. if something happens i will rebuild
07:56 markveidemanis For Future-Me to decide...
07:56 OldCoder markveidemanis, removing glooptest broke your work
07:56 OldCoder markveidemanis, removing glooptest broke your world *
07:56 OldCoder Gems needs it
07:56 markveidemanis Uh-Oh
07:56 OldCoder wait
07:56 Oblivion1500 i knew it would
07:57 markveidemanis Downgrade glooptest
07:57 OldCoder Removing gems
07:57 markveidemanis to gloopores
07:57 OldCoder Will that help?
07:57 markveidemanis oh, ok
07:57 markveidemanis No, remove is fine
07:57 OldCoder All set
07:57 markveidemanis simpler.
07:57 OldCoder head on in
07:57 markveidemanis ok
07:57 OldCoder See if conifers are gone
07:58 markveidemanis The world has been very slightly slower
07:58 OldCoder Hmm?
07:58 markveidemanis Last Time
07:58 OldCoder Better now?
07:58 markveidemanis maybe better this time...
07:58 markveidemanis idk, its loading
07:58 markveidemanis on a slow computer...
07:58 markveidemanis Zzz
07:59 markveidemanis right, i think my server discussion should be on either: ##mtmarktwain #mtmarktwain #mtmt
08:00 OldCoder markveidemanis, can't deal with the channels issue this weekend
08:00 markveidemanis see on #mtmarktwain
08:00 OldCoder no time
08:09 marktraceur VanessaE: Sorry you had to endure the bullshit earlier
08:09 * marktraceur will be around all tomorrow
08:09 * VanessaE shrugs
08:09 VanessaE no worried.
08:09 VanessaE no worries either.
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08:10 marktraceur And how.
08:11 sfan5 good morning everyone
08:11 marktraceur markveidemanis: FYI I think you're throwing stones when you accuse someone of spamming etc.
08:11 VanessaE good morning sfan5
08:11 TheZenKitteh g'morning sfan5
08:13 OldCoder joined #minetest
08:13 OldCoder Hi
08:13 OldCoder Am I visible?
08:13 TheZenKitteh you were
08:15 kaeza morning sfan5
08:16 OldCoder joined #minetest
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08:16 kaeza wb OldCoder
08:17 Oblivion1500 what happened to you OldCoder?
08:17 OldCoder Hi
08:17 OldCoder Oblivion1500, network glitch
08:17 OldCoder I think I'm back
08:18 OldCoder restarting worlds again
08:18 Oblivion1500 ok
08:18 OldCoder Need to retest shortly
08:18 TheZenKitteh you seem back
08:18 OldCoder Yep ty
08:18 TheZenKitteh or im hallucinating
08:18 Oblivion1500 you want to run the clean mod?
08:18 OldCoder k
08:18 OldCoder It is in there
08:18 Oblivion1500 oh it can be done from in the world?
08:18 OldCoder I do not understand
08:19 Oblivion1500 the clean up to get rid of unknowns
08:19 OldCoder I do not understand
08:19 OldCoder The mod is there
08:19 markveidemanis how do i unprotect an area?
08:19 Oblivion1500 ok, so it should be able to be run from inside th game?
08:19 OldCoder Oblivion1500, I do not understand
08:19 OldCoder It runs automatically
08:20 Oblivion1500 ? really because there are a bunch of unknown items everwhere..
08:20 OldCoder You will need to identify them
08:20 markveidemanis no, you need to set it up from the files and edit the init.lua file to remove the nodenames specified
08:20 OldCoder Yes
08:20 OldCoder Then it runs automatically
08:20 markveidemanis can you go on #mtmarktwain
08:20 OldCoder No
08:20 markveidemanis i set it up
08:20 OldCoder I cannot
08:21 OldCoder There is no time
08:21 markveidemanis #mtmt?
08:21 OldCoder There is no time
08:21 markveidemanis #mtmt ?
08:21 OldCoder There is no time
08:21 markveidemanis ok
08:21 markveidemanis ok
08:21 Oblivion1500 oh damn, wel looks like im going to have to edit it for the glooptest remove ext
08:21 OldCoder Proceed
08:22 markveidemanis #mt-servers #mt-maps #mt-textures #mtmt #mtmarktwain ##mtmarktwain
08:22 markveidemanis my channels:D
08:22 OldCoder k
08:22 markveidemanis can you check them?
08:22 OldCoder ?
08:22 Oblivion1500 there is no reason for all of that
08:22 OldCoder Not now
08:22 markveidemanis ok
08:23 OldCoder 12:22am
08:23 OldCoder Work to do
08:23 Oblivion1500 you just need one.. there wont be that many people on your server just pick one and stick with it
08:23 OldCoder markveidemanis, Oblivion1500 please reenter world
08:23 OldCoder And see what has happened
08:23 OldCoder I have redone
08:23 OldCoder The build code
08:24 Oblivion1500 ? what do you mean?
08:24 OldCoder
08:24 OldCoder Just retest the world please
08:24 markveidemanis :D
08:24 Oblivion1500 loading*
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08:26 Oblivion1500 im in, it seems to be faster now
08:26 OldCoder See what needs to be fixed
08:27 markveidemanis THE CONIFERS!!!
08:27 VanessaE night all, I'm off to bed.
08:30 markveidemanis OldCoder
08:30 markveidemanis CONIFERS!!!
08:30 TheZenKitteh night vanessae
08:30 OldCoder Hi!
08:30 OldCoder markveidemanis, they are supposed to be gone
08:31 markveidemanis They're not...
08:31 OldCoder Let me check
08:31 Oblivion1500 you took away more trees not the conifers, i think they are fine though
08:31 Oblivion1500 but thats just me
08:31 OldCoder Oblivion1500, Conifers *are* More Trees now
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08:31 Jordach yup..
08:31 markveidemanis remove most things that add: entities or mapgen integration
08:31 Jordach morning OldCoder
08:32 Oblivion1500 ....
08:32 markveidemanis aka animals
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08:32 OldCoder Hi
08:32 * Jordach sees two sfans, jordach dies
08:33 OldCoder Oblivion1500, markveidemanis Conifer spawn is disabled
08:33 OldCoder and markveidemanis your clean conifers is there
08:33 OldCoder What is next?
08:34 markveidemanis jungle grass
08:34 markveidemanis and animals
08:34 OldCoder Make a list
08:34 OldCoder I will NOT do this piecemeal
08:34 OldCoder I think we are done for the night
08:34 OldCoder markveidemanis, the modset
08:34 OldCoder list is updated
08:34 OldCoder http://minetest.org/modsets.html
08:35 TheZenKitteh btw to note oldcoder
08:35 OldCoder ?
08:35 TheZenKitteh raphael should be in all caps
08:35 OldCoder k
08:35 TheZenKitteh it stands for something
08:35 TheZenKitteh lol
08:35 TheZenKitteh of course I won't say
08:36 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, patched for next time
08:36 TheZenKitteh k ty
08:37 markveidemanis #mt-servers #mt-maps #mt-textures #mtmt #mtmarktwain
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08:47 TheZenKitteh ( | ) ( / ) ( | ) ( \ ) ( | )
08:48 * TheZenKitteh makes random statement.. shin-chan
08:48 * TheZenKitteh ends random statement
08:57 markveidemanis <random>
08:57 markveidemanis Moo
08:57 markveidemanis </random>
08:58 TheZenKitteh hey that's my line lol
08:58 markveidemanis its time for me to type /quit
08:58 markveidemanis </quit?
08:58 markveidemanis >
08:58 markveidemanis <spam/>
08:58 markveidemanis ready?
08:58 markveidemanis <<.>>spamm>
08:58 TheZenKitteh lol
08:58 TheZenKitteh *quit*
08:59 markveidemanis <.SPAM>
08:59 TheZenKitteh er *qooit*
08:59 markveidemanis </spam>
08:59 TheZenKitteh moo?
08:59 TheZenKitteh maw?
08:59 markveidemanis MOOOO
08:59 TheZenKitteh ror
08:59 markveidemanis wanna spam #mtmt?
08:59 markveidemanis Go on...
08:59 TheZenKitteh na
08:59 markveidemanis its my channel
08:59 TheZenKitteh sodium
08:59 markveidemanis Na
08:59 markveidemanis Haha
09:00 markveidemanis k
09:00 markveidemanis see ya
09:00 markveidemanis k
09:00 markveidemanis pottasium
09:00 TheZenKitteh audios
09:00 TheZenKitteh not spelled right ims ure
09:00 markveidemanis potassium
09:00 TheZenKitteh helium
09:00 markveidemanis #mt-servers #mt-maps #mt-textures #mtmt #mtmarktwain
09:00 markveidemanis whoops paste
09:01 * OldCoder is resting
09:01 OldCoder markveidemanis, a bit more on topic and less floody please
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09:01 * TheZenKitteh is insane
09:01 TheZenKitteh to many at least
09:01 TheZenKitteh to me im perfectly sane
09:01 markveidemanis ok
09:03 markveidemanis all test minetest.org 30010
09:03 * TheZenKitteh is rebellious and refuses
09:03 OldCoder markveidemanis, make lists of changes
09:03 OldCoder Zzz
09:03 markveidemanis ZZZzzZzzZZZzzzz..
09:05 markveidemanis r
09:05 markveidemanis Test My Server!
09:06 markveidemanis pLZ.
09:07 * TheZenKitteh opens minecraft and puts in your server info
09:07 TheZenKitteh hurr derr
09:08 TheZenKitteh actually I can't open minetest right now
09:08 markveidemanis I see you joining!
09:08 TheZenKitteh too much running
09:08 TheZenKitteh lol
09:08 TheZenKitteh when I run minetest it must be virtually only thing running or it faels
09:09 markveidemanis then close everything
09:09 markveidemanis :D
09:09 TheZenKitteh minetest could use a lot more optimization
09:09 TheZenKitteh can't right now
09:09 TheZenKitteh lol
09:11 markveidemanis then who can
09:11 markveidemanis im gonnna message random people
09:12 markveidemanis join me on minetest.org port 30010
09:12 markveidemanis copy...
09:13 john_minetest markveidemanis: The server is hosted by OldCoder so it won't be down. Also it is up and established so it isn't "testing" but "advertisement".You don't want people to test the functions of your server but to come on it. So please define it like : "Everybody who wants to play on a map with flatlands in the middle and generated area around, please come on my server at <ip> <port>". And don't tell it every day. I think people unde
09:13 john_minetest rstood now that you have got a server.
09:13 Jordach john_minetest, /ignore is your friend
09:14 john_minetest /ignore is my friend, yes.
09:15 markveidemanis i dont have it!
09:15 john_minetest You don't need it.
09:15 markveidemanis why
09:15 john_minetest Because you are the one who spams the whole time. "Come on my server at <ip> <port>!!!".
09:16 markveidemanis "Come on my server at minetest.org 30010!!!".
09:16 john_minetest xD
09:16 markveidemanis good template
09:16 markveidemanis so will you?:D
09:17 TheZenKitteh come to mah server at google.com port 9001 !!!!!!??!!!!
09:17 TheZenKitteh o wait
09:17 TheZenKitteh lol
09:18 TheZenKitteh must note if google hosted a minetest server minetest would become an instant celebrity
09:18 john_minetest markveidemanis: If you want people to come on your server, make a few events on your server and tell about them in the minetest.net/forum thread of your server.
09:18 john_minetest But IRC is for serious discussion. Or less serious. But still no spam.
09:19 markveidemanis EVENT: SPLEEF ARENA
09:19 markveidemanis NEEDS CONSTRUCTION
09:19 john_minetest Tell this in the forum. And NO CAPS!!!
09:20 markveidemanis WHY?
09:20 john_minetest Caps is annoying. Here in IRC you can say "I need someone to help me with my spleef on <server> <ip>", News from your server belong into the forum.
09:23 Jordach TheZenKitteh, haha
09:23 Jordach they probably do on port <something i dont know of yet>
09:24 john_minetest Google would store all conversations made on the server and the movement patterns of the players. Out of this data, google would automatically generate profiles and sell them to advertisement companies.
09:25 TheZenKitteh lol
09:25 markveidemanis "I need someone to help me with my spleef on my server minetest.org:30010"
09:26 markveidemanis and i updated forum topic
09:34 markveidemanis j
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09:41 markveidemanis "I need someone to help me with my spleef on <server> <ip>"
09:41 markveidemanis whoops
09:41 markveidemanis DAMMIT!
09:41 markveidemanis "I need someone to help me with my spleef on my server minetest.org:30010"
09:41 markveidemanis uh-oh
09:42 markveidemanis internet
09:43 john_minetest lol. Now I'm on this server and he is not there :|
09:44 TheZenKitteh irony
09:44 TheZenKitteh what he so wanted.. he got.. but couldn't be there to see it
09:47 john_minetest i left the server. It was boring being there alone.
09:47 john_minetest I bet he will join in 5 minutes xD
09:47 TheZenKitteh probably
09:59 sfan5 tip for building minetest: install tcc and pass "-DCMAKE_COMPILER=`which tcc`" to cmake, this will makre compliation of lua and sqlite faster
09:59 sfan5 -r
10:06 TheZenKitteh well im over and out
10:06 TheZenKitteh ta ta
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10:09 sfan5 lol, someone with a playstation 3 visited my website
10:10 sfan5 and he/she came from japan :O
10:21 sfan5 !wik MinetestWiki:TODO
10:21 sfan5 ....
10:21 sfan5 i miss the bots
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10:25 kaeza !g GIYF
10:25 kaeza :)
10:27 celeron55 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4243 on http://dev.minetest.net/MinetestWiki:TODO and #minetest-doc now
10:27 celeron55 it's still very quiet regarding to this
10:30 celeron55 but i guess it's because the <=UTC-5 people haven't waken up yet 8)
10:31 sapier1 :-) celeron is there any way to decide wich "register_xxx" functions can only be called on startup?
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10:32 celeron55 sapier1: officially, all of them
10:32 celeron55 some might happen to work otherwise, but it's unintentional
10:32 MinetestBot joined #minetest
10:32 sapier1 ok
10:33 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload admin
10:33 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'admin' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/admin.py'> (version: 2013-01-19 10:34:57)
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10:36 sfan5 !wik MinetestWiki:TODO
10:36 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/MinetestWiki:TODO
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10:37 john_minetest yay, the dev sprint!
10:37 john_minetest dev.minetest.net
10:44 john_minetest Just registered ^^
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11:24 Exio markveidemanis was spamming.. his? server .. two hours ago
11:24 Exio just for reporting, and hi
11:24 john_minetest hi
11:25 sfan5 hi
11:28 Oblivion1500 where is the TODO happening? on this chat or the dev chat?
11:31 john_minetest There is one TODO file on the wiki
11:32 john_minetest and on #minetest-doc there is discussion.
11:34 sapier1 http://dev.minetest.net/Global_minetest_object I've added a page categorizing minetest objects what do you thing about it?
11:35 sapier1 minetest objects subelements to be precise
11:36 Oblivion1500 oh i like it
11:36 sapier1 Unsorted are functions I didn't know how to categorize
11:42 Oblivion1500 that still is some good work, i like it alot, i will be using that information more, thanks
11:43 sapier1 It's doc sprint if everyone does a little bit doc will be done soon
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11:46 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:46 klunk hello !
11:48 Oblivion1500 morning
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12:04 klunk have a good engine documentation day, :-)
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12:14 meldrian Hello @ all, hello PilzAdam nice to see you, i got a question and hope you'll help me :)
12:15 PilzAdam sure
12:15 Calinou don't ask to ask :)
12:16 meldrian i'd like to compile the latest developement version of minetest for my future videos. Is there a howto or something?
12:17 PilzAdam the instuctions in the README are quite good for ubuntu
12:17 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3837
12:17 Calinou meldrian: ^
12:17 Calinou (not for windows)
12:18 meldrian great, thank you
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12:49 sfan5 voice MinetestBot
12:49 sfan5 ...
12:50 sfan5 forgot /
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13:11 sapier1 VanessaE is your server still running?
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13:34 markveidemanis What is with the forums
13:34 markveidemanis i am SURE i edited my post
13:36 markveidemanis FORUM MODERATORS...
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13:38 markveidemanis !up 0283498574 30010
13:38 MinetestBot markveidemanis: Invalid Address
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13:38 markveidemanis Yep
13:38 markveidemanis Just as i thought..
13:39 sfan5 markveidemanis: ummm...
13:39 markveidemanis !up minetest.org 30000-30018
13:39 markveidemanis can it test multiple ports?
13:39 MinetestBot markveidemanis: minetest.org 30000-30018 seems to be down
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13:41 markveidemanis !up google.com 9001
13:41 MinetestBot markveidemanis: google.com 9001 seems to be down
13:41 markveidemanis and why?
13:42 rubenwardy hi
13:42 markveidemanis that would be fast: a google server
13:42 rubenwardy !up google.com 80
13:42 sfan5 google.com doesn't run a minetest server at port 9001
13:42 MinetestBot rubenwardy: google.com 80 seems to be down
13:42 rubenwardy !up google.co.uk 80
13:42 MinetestBot rubenwardy: google.co.uk 80 seems to be down
13:42 markveidemanis 80 is YOUR port, you use to access the web
13:43 markveidemanis wheres moltenbot
13:43 markveidemanis and Minetest-tabn
13:43 markveidemanis tan
13:43 sfan5 celeron55 wants ONE bot in the chanell
13:43 sfan5 *channel
13:44 markveidemanis ONE?
13:44 sfan5 one
13:44 markveidemanis !joke
13:44 markveidemanis not as fun as moltenbot
13:45 markveidemanis #minetest *!*moltenbot@*.server4you.de celeron55!~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi 1358020749
13:45 markveidemanis ???
13:45 sfan5 moltenbot is banned
13:46 markveidemanis has my ip changed just now?
13:46 john_minetest Just looked how many posts have been written by markveidemanis today. Answer: most.
13:47 markveidemanis "Most"?
13:47 markveidemanis Be specific!
13:47 markveidemanis As in: Number
13:48 rubenwardy !joke
13:48 markveidemanis anyway, i could use some help building
13:48 markveidemanis anyone want to build?
13:48 markveidemanis a lighthouse/hotel/wizard tower
13:49 markveidemanis "Circular Tower"
13:49 john_minetest 58 since i joined
13:49 markveidemanis 59!
13:49 markveidemanis and.....60!!!!!!!
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13:50 * rubenwardy is experiementing with HTML5 canvases
13:51 markveidemanis http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3954
13:51 markveidemanis Vote now!
13:51 john_minetest 60/228
13:52 john_minetest 26% of all posts
13:54 markveidemanis UPDATE:http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=55068#p55068
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13:55 markveidemanis whats +r
13:56 sfan5 !g +r irc
13:56 MinetestBot sfan5: http://docs.dal.net/docs/modes.html
13:56 sfan5 ^ markveidemanis
13:58 OldCoder Back
14:00 markveidemanis OldCoder
14:00 markveidemanis Can you come on my server
14:00 markveidemanis and join #mtmarktwain
14:00 OldCoder markveidemanis, No I cannot
14:00 OldCoder But thank you
14:00 markveidemanis what about #mtmt
14:00 OldCoder markveidemanis, Focus on fixes to your world please
14:00 OldCoder Make a list
14:01 OldCoder That we may make things work
14:02 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload serverup
14:02 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/serverup.py", line 43)
14:03 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload serverup
14:03 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'serverup' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/serverup.py'> (version: 2013-01-19 14:04:46)
14:03 sfan5 !up minetest.org 30000-30018
14:03 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 seems to be down
14:03 sfan5 derp
14:03 sfan5 i should look at the code before i test it
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14:05 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload serverup
14:05 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'serverup' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/serverup.py'> (version: 2013-01-19 14:07:10)
14:05 sfan5 !up minetest.org 30000-30018
14:05 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.354ms)
14:05 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.321ms)
14:05 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.308ms)
14:05 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.317ms)
14:05 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.311ms)
14:05 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.322ms)
14:05 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.313ms)
14:05 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.316ms)
14:05 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.313ms)
14:05 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.313ms)
14:05 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.319ms)
14:05 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.316ms)
14:05 markveidemanis_ +q
14:05 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.319ms)
14:05 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.315ms)
14:05 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.316ms)
14:05 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit
14:05 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest.org 30000-30018 is up (0.318ms)
14:06 markveidemanis_ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
14:06 sfan5 i should test it on another channel
14:06 markveidemanis_ #mtmt
14:06 OldCoder WTF
14:06 sfan5 no
14:06 OldCoder Stop that
14:06 sfan5 i did
14:06 markveidemanis_ ??
14:06 markveidemanis_ oh.
14:06 markveidemanis You can test it on #mtmt
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14:09 markveidemanis How do i kick with chanserv?
14:09 Exio You can't
14:09 markveidemanis what about akick
14:10 Exio auto-kickban
14:10 markveidemanis OldCoder, go on #mtmt to see a bot list all your servers
14:10 markveidemanis LOL
14:11 OldCoder markveidemanis, why LOK?
14:11 OldCoder markveidemanis, why LOL? *
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14:12 markveidemanis minetest server minetest.org 30000 UP...minetest server minetest.org 30001 UP and so on
14:12 markveidemanis looked like spam
14:12 markveidemanis :D
14:13 sfan5 people that are not called thexyz, celeron55 or sfan5 have to deal with a limit of 4 ports
14:13 markveidemanis and OC
14:13 markveidemanis Hehe
14:15 sfan5 https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/commit/b9f3e1e223d2153965775359483d1afd2661e620
14:15 markveidemanis who wants to "mess around" with irc?
14:15 MinetestBot nobody
14:16 markveidemanis who wants to
14:16 markveidemanis who wants to action of cafe
14:16 markveidemanis No keyword?
14:16 markveidemanis with irc
14:16 sfan5 !up minetest.org:30000
14:16 MinetestBot sfan5: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
14:16 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest.org:30000 is up (0.312ms)
14:17 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload serverup
14:17 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'serverup' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/serverup.py'> (version: 2013-01-19 14:19:04)
14:18 sfan5 !up minetest.org:30000
14:18 MinetestBot sfan5: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
14:18 MinetestBot minetest.org:30000 is up (0.319ms)
14:20 markveidemanis !up google.com 30000-1997
14:20 sfan5 markveidemanis: there are no ports between 30000 and 1997
14:21 markveidemanis !up google.com 1997-30000
14:21 MinetestBot markveidemanis: Too many Ports specified
14:22 markveidemanis http://ompldr.org/vaDR3eQ/2013-01-19-141931_1024x600_scrot.png
14:22 markveidemanis Thoughts?
14:22 sfan5 looks nice
14:23 markveidemanis any ideas?
14:25 markveidemanis ...
14:36 Muadtralk maybe decorate it with some nodeboxes?
14:49 markveidemanis Not nodeboxes!
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14:50 markveidemanis Ithink they look wierd and i am sure il get simething wrong
14:50 markveidemanis who wants to talk about maps, servers or textures
14:52 Muadtralk you don't need to provoke conversation
14:52 Muadtralk it will come naturally
14:53 markveidemanis SOMEONE SPEAK!!!
14:54 kaeza marktraceur, please advertise your channels elsewhere, we have already seen them
14:54 kaeza whoops
14:54 kaeza markveidemanis, ^
14:54 markveidemanis What?
14:54 markveidemanis i have not mentioned any channels
14:54 markveidemanis Have i?
14:55 sfan5 no
14:55 markveidemanis Heh
14:55 markveidemanis so does anyone?
14:55 kaeza no
14:58 markveidemanis Gine
14:58 markveidemanis Fine
14:58 markveidemanis .
14:59 klunk markveidemanis: you mentionned channels 3 times. What's this game ?
15:00 markveidemanis Minetest
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15:22 * jojoa1997 is bored
15:23 jojoa1997 any one here?
15:24 sfan5 yes
15:24 jojoa1997 hi
15:24 jojoa1997 I'm so bored cause at science fair
15:24 Cybersoft yes
15:25 jojoa1997 and already hit max judges
15:25 Cybersoft jojoa1997: just start digging tunnels
15:25 PilzAdam jojoa1997, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4243
15:25 jojoa1997 i am on tablet pilzadam
15:26 ruskie so make a tablet port of minetest
15:26 jojoa1997 dont know how
15:27 Cybersoft my phone is way too small to convert minetest to android
15:27 Cybersoft I couldn't test
15:27 jojoa1997 wow but i would not be able to use anything with lake of controls
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15:28 jojoa1997 how would you control it
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15:29 jojoa1997 is diamondmining server up
15:29 jojoa1997 judge at next table finally cya
15:30 Cybersoft and besides just because you can do something doesn't mean you should
15:30 Cybersoft for example some another freeware project I'm interested in has 2 developpers who have been working together for a while
15:31 Cybersoft so it's kinda pointless to try to join that project because they have had their own idea for a while and I would just intrude
15:33 Cybersoft that is what sucks sometimes with opensource dev project... sometimes there are no possibilities besides forking
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15:52 marktraceur Morning all!
15:52 airlynx mornin'
15:53 marktraceur Documentation sprint is starting in #minetest-doc in five minutes
15:53 marktraceur We're going to try to write up enough information for people to be able to enter this community well-informed, and help new people overcome basic hurdles relatively early
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16:12 OldCoder Hi
16:12 markveidemanis hi
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16:18 Edik hi
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16:18 markveidemanis uyvb
16:18 markveidemanis Hmmm...
16:19 markveidemanis That was a test.
16:19 Edik ?
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16:20 sfan5 !server
16:20 MinetestBot sfan5: AviActu Global Minetest Server (0.4.3) | aviactu.info:30000   up (99.040%)
16:22 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload server
16:22 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'server' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/server.py'> (version: 2013-01-19 16:23:21)
16:22 sfan5 !server
16:22 MinetestBot sfan5: D-L-K Networks GameServer | game.d-l-k.net:30000   up (99.936%)
16:27 john_minetest !server
16:27 MinetestBot john_minetest: AviActu Global Minetest Server (0.4.3) | aviactu.info:30000   up (99.040%)
16:27 john_minetest What does this one do?
16:27 markveidemanis !server
16:27 markveidemanis ?
16:27 MinetestBot markveidemanis: Redcrab's server 0.4 dev20120106-1 | redcrab.suret.net:30000   up (99.966%)
16:28 markveidemanis ???
16:28 sfan5 it gives you a random server from http://servers.minetest.ru
16:28 markveidemanis !server
16:28 MinetestBot markveidemanis: Redcrab's server : for serious builder | redcrab.suret.net:30401   up (99.928%)
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16:28 markveidemanis !server
16:28 MinetestBot markveidemanis: Jordach's Pixel Art | redcrab.suret.net:30402   up (99.968%)
16:28 markveidemanis it wont tell me my server!
16:28 markveidemanis :D
16:29 sfan5 it will tell you a random server
16:30 markveidemanis <MinetestBot> markveidemanis: MarkTwain Server | minetest.org:30010   up (96.747%)
16:30 markveidemanis took a bit of spamming...
16:30 markveidemanis it picks redcrab most ofall
16:31 sfan5 because redcrab has the most server
16:31 sfan5 +s
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16:31 markveidemanis +s?
16:31 markveidemanis not seen that one
16:31 markveidemanis :D
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16:31 markveidemanis +b?
16:31 sfan5 *facepalm*
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16:41 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rutils
16:41 MinetestBot sfan5: rutils: no such module!
16:42 kaeza MinetestBot: reload awesomeness
16:44 Cybersoft Slackware, Redhat, SuSE ... mostly suse when it was an independant company. I sometimes use Ubuntu in virtual machines
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16:45 john_minetest I used OpenSUSE when I was 12 or so. Didn't understand it back then, but I have got a nice user manual. My uncle gave it to me.
16:45 john_minetest Now I use ArchLinux.
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16:48 Calinou harsh linux
16:48 Calinou <mark shuttleworth seal of approval>
16:48 Cybersoft gunzip -cd .gz | tar -xvf -   can't believe I still remember that
16:49 RealBadAngel hi all
16:49 Calinou cd Downloads; gunzip *
16:49 Calinou ???
16:49 kaeza hey RBA
16:49 Calinou PROFIT
16:49 john_minetest what does the command do?
16:49 john_minetest Cybersoft ^
16:49 Cybersoft yeah, it gunzip to the stdout so you have to use a specific switch with tar to take the input from stdin
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16:49 kaeza Cybersoft, tar xfz file.tar.gz?
16:50 Kacey hey kaeza
16:50 kaeza hey Kacey
16:50 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/almost.png
16:50 Kacey im on my xbox
16:50 john_minetest I always use "tar xfvz file.tar.gz"
16:51 john_minetest RBA: Nice trees.
16:52 kaeza RealBadAngel, excellent :)
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16:53 Kacey *trollface*
16:53 babyface1031 nice i cant wait for it RealBadAngel
16:53 * VanessaE peeks in
16:53 Kacey hey v
16:54 Cybersoft rba: are you the one who mentionned l-systems yesterday?
16:54 VanessaE hey kacey
16:54 RealBadAngel hi VanessaE
16:54 VanessaE RealBadAngel: see pm.
16:54 Kacey im on my xbo lol
16:54 RealBadAngel k
16:54 RealBadAngel Cybersoft, yes
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16:55 sfan5 !crc32 test
16:55 MinetestBot AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'replace' (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/irc.py", line 161, in safe)
16:57 Cybersoft RealBadAngel: I've been reading on these yesterday, seems it is already used for world generation. I think it should be mentionned on the wiki
16:58 RealBadAngel Cybersoft, l-systems c++ code is in the engine from some time already
16:58 RealBadAngel we are workin now on Lua side
16:58 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rutils
16:59 Cybersoft I see. I really like those topics in school... grammar, production rules, state machines, termination problem...
16:59 Cybersoft *liked
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17:00 MinetestBot -662733300(-0x278081f4)
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17:05 markveidemanis_ Hi
17:05 nisio yo
17:07 markveidemanis Silence***
17:07 markveidemanis know any good maps?
17:07 markveidemanis want to talk about building?
17:10 MinetestBot was kicked by thexyz: MinetestBot
17:10 OldCoder ++
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17:22 OldCoder Hi
17:22 OldCoder Heh
17:24 babyface1031 hi OldCoder
17:24 OldCoder hi!
17:24 markveidemanis Hi!
17:26 markveidemanis list to remove:
17:26 markveidemanis conifers
17:26 markveidemanis animals
17:26 markveidemanis bridges
17:26 markveidemanis computers
17:26 markveidemanis display blocks
17:27 markveidemanis industrial
17:27 markveidemanis secret passage
17:28 markveidemanis xmas (its over)
17:28 markveidemanis </list>
17:28 markveidemanis and can you use my stairsplus and technic ores.lua and cement.lua patches
17:32 thexyz sfan5: yes, please, test it in another channel
17:32 thexyz and we should discuss bots with c55, btw
17:32 Cybersoft ice cream :))))))
17:33 sfan5 thexyz: i used 1 command, i switched to query
17:33 sfan5 +to test it
17:33 sfan5 *other command
17:33 sfan5 +s
17:33 markveidemanis you are still welcome on #mtmt :D
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17:35 markveidemanis OldCoder
17:35 markveidemanis can you remove technic too
17:37 markveidemanis and mesecons
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17:38 markveidemanis how do i register abm conifers:leaves and conifers:trunk to air?
17:38 sokomine hi. i'm getting some errors during configuration with cmake with the very newest version: CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:157 (find_package): Could not find module FindJthread.cmake or a configuration file for package Jthread.
17:38 sokomine any hints? (debian)
17:38 sfan5 install libjthread-dev?
17:40 sokomine hmm. does not seem to exist?
17:41 sokomine apt-cache search finds no package named jthread
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17:42 sfan5 i use debian wheezy and apt-get can find various thing if i try "apt-get install libjthread<tab>"
17:42 sfan5 *things
17:43 sfan5 !b16d 6D696E657465737420697320617765736F6D6521
17:43 MinetestBot minetest is awesome!
17:43 thexyz http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=jthread
17:43 sfan5 !base16decode 6D696E657465737420697320617765736F6D6521
17:43 MinetestBot minetest is awesome!
17:43 sfan5 \o/
17:43 Cybersoft ...
17:43 Cybersoft sfan5 found a new toy
17:44 LandMine !up minetest
17:44 MinetestBot LandMine: Invalid Address
17:44 LandMine !up minetest.com
17:44 MinetestBot minetest.com:30000 seems to be down
17:44 sfan5 we have !base[16,32,64][decode,encode] now
17:44 sokomine hmm. i'm still at squeeze. that doesn't seem to have jthread yet
17:46 sfan5 !re !emosewa llits si tsetenim
17:46 MinetestBot minetest is still awesome!
17:46 Cybersoft RBA: did you know about this: http://www.uni-forst.gwdg.de/~wkurth/grogra.html
17:47 markveidemanis !up minetest.org 30007-30011
17:47 MinetestBot markveidemanis: Too many Ports specified
17:47 sokomine yes of course it is :-) but the newest version has even more awesom features :-) that's why i think that my...er...about two weeks old version might be too old :-)
17:47 markveidemanis !up minetest.org 30007-30010
17:47 MinetestBot minetest.org:30007 is up (0.391ms)
17:47 MinetestBot minetest.org:30008 is up (0.312ms)
17:47 MinetestBot minetest.org:30009 is up (0.318ms)
17:47 MinetestBot minetest.org:30010 is up (0.321ms)
17:47 Cybersoft Growth Grammar Intepreter
17:48 LandMine My balls itch :-(
17:50 markveidemanis OldCoder
17:50 markveidemanis 17:24
17:52 thexyz sfan5: are you sure we need that?
17:53 markveidemanis We do!!!
17:53 thexyz i don't think so
17:53 sfan5 its always good to have these things lying around
17:53 sfan5 *sometimes
17:54 thexyz lol
17:54 john_minetest RealBadAngle: Your tree system is epic. Is it possible to choose other materials (mese trees or similar)?
17:54 thexyz yes
17:54 john_minetest Nice.
17:55 john_minetest There was a discussion about biomes some time ago. Different biomes with different (L-System) trees. That would be great.
17:55 sfan5 ^ i agree
17:56 sokomine yes it would. those new trees are great :-) the vegtation is the most important part about biomes in mt. it enriches singleplayer a lot
17:58 VanessaE john_minetest: any nodes can be used to make a tree - stone trunks and mese leaves with super glow glass for the fruit if you want
18:00 john_minetest Yeah. It would be great to have biomes. So a swamp biome could have special trees and special materials, the trees in the desert would be cacti with leaves set to default:air and similar stuff.
18:00 klunk yes Darkrose use that to spawn hives instead of apple, for example
18:00 VanessaE john_minetest: I'm working on that.
18:00 john_minetest VanessaE: Great!!!
18:00 VanessaE moretrees separates trees into biomes already
18:00 VanessaE I'm working on a mapgen-based version
18:00 VanessaE (for now trees spawn with abms because it's actually faster)
18:04 sokomine there is already that very nice swamp mod from hybrid_dog. it just lacks efficency. maybe that's due to the mod using bas' habitat
18:05 sokomine the bees mod is great as well :-)
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18:08 klunk yes it is
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18:12 Calinou http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.sound_play <= O_o, page name not starting with a capital
18:12 thexyz is that strange?
18:14 john_minetest Just saw that Ragnar has an epilepsy avatar on the forum...
18:14 john_minetest </blink>
18:14 thexyz hm
18:14 thexyz >Animated avatars are disallowed
18:15 john_minetest Yeah. I know. It is in offtopic discussion.
18:15 thexyz I removed it
18:15 sfan5 you can rename a .gif to .png and it still works with the most browsers
18:15 john_minetest Okay.
18:16 sfan5 [LOG]: Checked 2 RSS Feeds in 6.000 seconds  <- lol
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18:23 Cybersoft is there a wireframe mode in minetest?
18:23 Cybersoft so I can see how things are rendered?
18:25 sfan5 no
18:25 kaeza !tw
18:25 MinetestBot kaeza: Give me a link, a username, or a tweet id
18:25 kaeza !tw lkaezadl3
18:25 MinetestBot @crazycoder13 "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step" -- Confucius (@lkaezadl3)
18:25 markveidemanis who wants to see an AWESOME building
18:26 markveidemanis That i just build
18:26 kaeza noone
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18:30 Cybersoft markveidemanis: me?
18:30 markveidemanis http://ompldr.org/vaDUwcQ/2013-01-19-182813_1024x600_scrot.png
18:30 markveidemanis its on minetest.org:30010
18:30 markveidemanis in skycity
18:33 kaeza http://gameblaster64.xandorus.com/perttu-ahola
18:33 kaeza this guy needs to update ^
18:33 Jordach that goddamn snowman from over the road owes me rent; im going to fix his nose
18:33 kaeza lol
18:34 PilzAdam kaeza, 1: done; 2: done; 3:done
18:35 Jordach (yes, kick it down muddafuckin dark, so there were no witnesses.)
18:35 kaeza PilzAdam, hence, my "this guy needs to update" :P
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18:35 sfan5 !tw lkaezadl3
18:35 MinetestBot @crazycoder13 "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step" -- Confucius (@lkaezadl3)
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18:35 sfan5 kaeza: is that you acount?
18:36 sfan5 (twitter)
18:36 Calinou markveidemanis: ohai netbook user :3
18:36 kaeza yup
18:36 Calinou spotted with the 1024×600 resolution
18:36 Cybersoft rome wasn't built in a day
18:36 Kacey hey guys
18:36 Calinou hi Kacey
18:36 Calinou <Cybersoft> is there a wireframe mode in minetest? < nope
18:36 kaeza sfan5, y?
18:36 Kacey anyoe here have xbox live.
18:36 Calinou but cubes are rendered individually
18:37 Kacey ?
18:37 Calinou consoles FTL
18:37 Cybersoft calinou: 2 triangles per face I guess?
18:37 Kacey lol i am having problems
18:37 Calinou Cybersoft: probably, not sure
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18:38 Calinou Kacey: consoles are useless when you have a computer...
18:38 kaeza also: tablets
18:38 Kacey i dont have a computer right now lol
18:38 Jordach Kacey, yes, but im not giving out my tag
18:38 Calinou lol tablets
18:39 Jordach Calinou, lolmr1990
18:39 Calinou how many FPS at glxgears does your tablet do?
18:39 FreeFull 9001 fPS
18:39 VanessaE -i-agree-that-glxgears-is-not-a-benchmark
18:40 VanessaE :-)
18:40 Kacey hi v
18:40 FreeFull glxgears is a good benchmark if all your games do is coloured triangles =P
18:40 VanessaE (or however they named it for a while there before it became -printfps)
18:40 Calinou it is quite representative on dedicated GPUs at least
18:41 VanessaE it's good enough to tell if your video driver is working properly or not
18:41 Calinou it is way worse for comparing dedicated GPUs to IGPs though
18:41 Cybersoft what about passmark?
18:41 Calinou also glxgears relies a lot on CPU :P
18:41 Cybersoft is it considered a good benchmark?
18:41 Cybersoft or just a good relative benchmark
18:41 Calinou not installed by default
18:41 VanessaE passmark is good.
18:41 FreeFull VanessaE: You can always just   glxinfo | grep Direct
18:41 VanessaE I use their website for comparing stuff.
18:42 Calinou if you want something not installed by default on most distros, tesseract is a good benchmark
18:42 FreeFull Actually, direct
18:42 VanessaE FreeFull: that doesn't always work.
18:42 Calinou mostly relies on GPU :P
18:42 Cybersoft I use it for purchase... can't justify spending 200$ if the new part isn't at least 300% better
18:42 VanessaE there have been a couple of times where glxinfo said direct rendering was turned on, but graphics were still slow as detected by glxgears.
18:42 markveidemanis Hi!
18:42 VanessaE hi markveidemanis
18:43 FreeFull VanessaE: I only had that when both drivers and hardware were sucky
18:43 markveidemanis http://ompldr.org/vaDUwcQ/2013-01-19-182813_1024x600_scrot.png
18:43 markveidemanis look
18:43 markveidemanis Its better than that now
18:43 VanessaE markveidemanis: vas ist das?
18:44 markveidemanis ???
18:44 VanessaE what is this?
18:44 VanessaE (sorry, just being funny)
18:44 markveidemanis idk yet
18:44 FreeFull markveidemanis: Looks like a death ray
18:44 VanessaE looks sorta like a missile silo or a nuke plant
18:44 markveidemanis would you like to see it in real-life...wait no - minetest.
18:44 Cybersoft my old MC "integrated with nature" building: http://cdn2.planetminecraft.com/files/resource_media/screenshot/1237/building2_mc_3570464.jpg
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18:45 markveidemanis Well?
18:45 Cybersoft convert just cause 2 building: http://cdn2.planetminecraft.com/files/resource_media/screenshot/1237/itt_building_3564347.jpg
18:46 markveidemanis VanessaE, want to  see the building/
18:46 VanessaE markveidemanis: sure.
18:46 markveidemanis on a server
18:46 Cybersoft pmc might be very slow today so you may have to refresh
18:46 VanessaE not on a server.
18:46 markveidemanis minetest.org 30010
18:46 markveidemanis thats where i built it
18:46 VanessaE I'm not going online for a while, busy arguing with some code.
18:46 VanessaE (which, btw, is your fault ;-) )
18:46 markveidemanis hMmm/
18:46 markveidemanis ?
18:47 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/done.png
18:47 RealBadAngel im done with textures stuff for the trees :)
18:47 VanessaE markveidemanis: wasn't it you who wanted to stop conifers from just popping up all over? :-)
18:48 Cybersoft RBA: btw can your l-system generate different "models" of tree for the same species?
18:49 Cybersoft so that pine tree X would look different from pine tree Y ?
18:49 Cybersoft as far as branch and leaves goes
18:49 Calinou Cybersoft: lol
18:49 Calinou $200 and you expect 300% better
18:49 VanessaE Cybersoft: yes.  see moretrees mod
18:49 Calinou you have to wait like 4 years to do that
18:49 Cybersoft yeah, that's how old my old PC is
18:49 sfan5 to do what?
18:49 klunk RealBadAngel: yeah !!! :-)
18:49 RealBadAngel Cybersoft, its very hard to get 2 same lookin trees of the kind
18:49 markveidemanis Yeah that was me
18:50 markveidemanis 18:47>
18:50 Cybersoft looking to switch from E8400 and 8800GT to i5-3570 and GTX 660
18:50 VanessaE markveidemanis: I'm working on making them only generate at mapgen time or if you plant a sapling, just as regular trees are done now.
18:50 Calinou E8400?
18:50 RealBadAngel they will be similar but never lookin the same
18:50 Cybersoft Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
18:50 Calinou oh, cpu
18:51 markveidemanis but they invaded spawn, a protected area
18:51 Cybersoft I'm going to have to ask you to return your Geek card within 15 days ;)
18:51 Calinou i7-2600K + 570GTX here
18:51 RealBadAngel if some1 wanna try and see all the models ingame, https://github.com/RealBadAngel/treegen
18:52 RealBadAngel use creative to get spawning sticks
18:52 markveidemanis OldCoder...
18:52 Cybersoft I didn't know one of the dev was called oldcoder
18:53 Calinou Cybersoft: 660ti has slightly better performance-price ratio
18:53 Cybersoft Someone said something like oldcoder made X some time ago
18:53 Calinou 30-40 euros, 15% faster
18:53 Cybersoft so I thought they were saying some programmer made X a long time ago but he/she isn't in the project anymore
18:54 Cybersoft Calinou: 660 is 250$ here, 660ti is 319$
18:54 Cybersoft 300$ is way too much for a gfx card.. it has more to do with limits than with performance-price ratio
18:54 OldCoder Hi
18:55 OldCoder Cybersoft, Hello
18:55 klunk RealBadAngel: is it a mod or something to compile or replace
18:55 klunk ?
18:55 Calinou Cybersoft: go find another store then
18:55 meldrian so... does somebody allreasdy recognize that in the newest dev the reciepe for 9 mese-crystal is the same as for mesecon in the mesecon mod?
18:55 Calinou be happy, in usa there is no vat
18:55 RealBadAngel klunk, its a mod
18:55 Cybersoft newegg.ca / ncix.ca .. kinda the least expensive
18:55 VanessaE meldrian: the latest mesecons dev already fixes that.
18:55 Cybersoft but I'm getting that within a timeframe of 1 year so prices might drop
18:55 Cybersoft and I need to justify paying 150$ for a modular psu...
18:55 meldrian VanessaE, naaahice, thank you :)
18:56 Calinou lol newegg
18:56 RealBadAngel its not usable for regular gameplay tho, its a framework for mod like moretrees
18:56 klunk RealBadAngel: ok, thanks, I will try it in two days (running with 0.4.4 classic version ?)
18:56 Calinou Cybersoft: you can find modular psus for like $100
18:56 markveidemanis Who can help me decorate my building
18:56 Calinou in france that's 100 euros again
18:56 markveidemanis Its done!
18:56 Calinou thanks to VAT and more expensive "life"
18:56 Calinou (for a 80 plus gold one)
18:56 RealBadAngel it needs latest builds from git (not the stable release)
18:57 Calinou <Cybersoft> 300$ is way too much for a gfx card.. <= my 570 cost more than $300 and it is worth it
18:57 Cybersoft I'm just a casual gamer
18:57 Calinou i don't smoke/drink/eat too much
18:57 Cybersoft and since I met someone I might not have much time for games in the near future
18:57 Cybersoft so I'm mainly looking for reliability
18:58 Cybersoft I'm building a computer with a server role first and a gaming role second
18:58 Cybersoft that's why I'm getting a motherboard with vpro and AMT, so I can manage it even if it is turned off
18:59 klunk RealBadAngel: ok
18:59 Cybersoft remoteKVM is nice too (wheter the machine is on or off)
19:00 Cybersoft I'm kinda in an hurry because I have to install win 2008 r2 before my license expires
19:00 Cybersoft I'll not be able to renew it, but I can keep an existing install
19:01 Calinou AMT?
19:01 Calinou lol, kvm
19:01 Calinou virtualbox is da win
19:01 Calinou "insecure", buuuut who cares?
19:01 Calinou Cybersoft: windows, lol :>
19:02 Calinou windows server is insecure, if you're worrying about security btw
19:02 Calinou :3
19:02 meldrian mese-pickaxe, such a nice and beautyful toy ^^
19:03 VanessaE meldrian: get the maptools mod and play around with the admin pick.  it makes mese picks seem like wood by comparison :)
19:04 PilzAdam VanessaE, FYI, meldrian makes the best german Minetest Lets Play
19:04 VanessaE cool.
19:04 Calinou VanessaE: I was about to say that :P
19:04 meldrian aaah... stop it, you...
19:04 meldrian ^^
19:06 Cybersoft now kiss
19:07 markveidemanis how do i register abm
19:07 markveidemanis from block1 to block2
19:08 Calinou minetest.register_abm()
19:08 Calinou lua_api.txt has the answer
19:08 markveidemanis what goes inside ()
19:08 Calinou :3
19:08 markveidemanis (" ", " ") ?
19:08 PilzAdam minetest.register_abm(abm_def)
19:09 PilzAdam abm def is a table
19:09 markveidemanis minetest.register_abm("conifers:trunk", "air)
19:09 markveidemanis will that work
19:09 PilzAdam no
19:09 markveidemanis default:air
19:10 PilzAdam read what I said above
19:10 RealBadAngel hi PilzAdam, do you like the treegen textures i made?
19:10 markveidemanis minetest.register_abm(abm_def) so that to start with?
19:10 markveidemanis do  i need a tab space
19:10 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, link?
19:11 Cybersoft RBA: I can't tell my eyes resolution can't see textures under 32x
19:11 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/done.png
19:11 Cybersoft ;)
19:11 * PilzAdam sees the MC sapling
19:11 RealBadAngel Cybersoft, those are default textures which have to be 16x, texture pack makers surely will make higher resolution ones
19:12 Cybersoft I know, I'm just kidding
19:12 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, yes, those were with proper licence
19:12 Cybersoft in a way you are like the minetest speedtree guy/gal
19:12 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, nice textures
19:13 RealBadAngel and are not minecraft textures, but TerraFirma mod textures
19:13 klunk RealBadAngel: silver birch texture is awfull
19:13 RealBadAngel youre welcome to propose better one ;)
19:13 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, would be nice to see them in use (i.e. as trees)
19:14 klunk ?thanks but it is great !!
19:14 RealBadAngel you can play around with them
19:14 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/treegen
19:14 marktraceur For the information of the channel, I'm still working on documentation at dev.minetest.net and in #minetest-doc
19:14 marktraceur If you'd like to help out, there are still things to do
19:15 markveidemanis so heres what i need to do:
19:15 markveidemanis make conifers:trunk turn to air
19:15 markveidemanis same to conifers:leaves
19:15 Cybersoft RBA: I don't remember what you said about it, but are random pine trees or random species tree possible
19:15 VanessaE markveidemanis: use worldedit.
19:15 RealBadAngel Cybersoft, just download the mod and spawn some trees
19:15 VanessaE Cybersoft: yes, they are.  see moretrees mod
19:15 markveidemanis too many of them
19:16 markveidemanis and they join with buildings
19:17 RealBadAngel Cybersoft, there are 11 different kinds of trees
19:18 RealBadAngel oak, spruce, pine, beech, birch, palm, apple, willow, jungle, sequoia
19:19 RealBadAngel one more to come, need to add it just to the framework
19:19 Cybersoft this is what I refered to as species
19:19 Cybersoft my question was, do you get random branching
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19:19 RealBadAngel yes
19:19 RealBadAngel you wont find 2 trees of the same kind lookin the same
19:20 RealBadAngel that is L-system is all about
19:21 Cybersoft so you have a base word for a particular species and a specific set of production rules for each species?
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19:22 Cybersoft like pine might be BABABBABABA  with rule1, rule2, rule3, etc... to make the branches and leaves while palm base word would be CABCCCBA with specific rules for branches
19:22 Cybersoft something like that?
19:22 john_minetest RealBadAngel: For what does the "L" in L-system stand?
19:23 Cybersoft Lindenmayer
19:24 klunk RealBadAngel: I can see a "regular" "classic" tree, with apples, will L-system gonna operate with spawning hives, as is it (talking about candles/bees Darkrose mod) ?
19:24 Cybersoft http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-system
19:25 VanessaE oooooooo I figured out my mapgen issue!
19:25 OldCoder ?
19:25 OldCoder Good
19:25 VanessaE mapgen-based moretrees mod coming very very very very soon
19:27 RealBadAngel Cybersoft, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1076
19:27 RealBadAngel check the treegen framework for more examples
19:27 Cybersoft l-system are kinda different from formal language
19:28 Cybersoft you can add a symbol whenever you want without a rule
19:29 RealBadAngel its similar to LOGO
19:29 Cybersoft hum
19:30 kaeza <VanessaE> mapgen-based moretrees mod coming very very very very soon
19:30 kaeza will you take my sugestion and make leaves not drop as ents?
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19:30 Cybersoft interesting concept
19:31 VanessaE done!
19:32 VanessaE moretrees now generates trees at mapgen time
19:32 VanessaE (and grows saplings via an ABM)
19:32 VanessaE plantlife mod updated accordingly.
19:32 VanessaE \o.
19:32 VanessaE \o/
19:32 kaeza +1e+1000000000
19:32 marktraceur VanessaE: \o. kinda works
19:32 Cybersoft my research told me that l-system can also be used to build structures like house and the rooms in them
19:33 Cybersoft it's an interesting concept :)
19:33 kaeza \o\ \o| |o| |o/ /o/
19:33 Calinou let's make l-system air
19:33 Calinou and l-system caves too :3
19:33 RealBadAngel Cybersoft, yes, its possible
19:34 RealBadAngel you can draw anythin with it
19:34 markveidemanis_ who can help me with conifers ==> air
19:34 Cybersoft ie: a rule for doors, a rule for windows, for floors etc
19:34 kaeza markveidemanis_, 'clean' mod :3
19:34 RealBadAngel propably code should change a  bit, its too trees oriented by now
19:35 Cybersoft from what I can see the generated words are independant from drawing
19:35 Cybersoft l-system just generate a bunch of letters, it's up to you to decide that they are drawing instruction
19:35 RealBadAngel yes
19:35 Cybersoft so I assume that the system to generate a bunch of letters is already implemented
19:36 Cybersoft as well as the "meaning" that they are drawing instruction
19:36 Cybersoft except that meaning is for trees atm, right?
19:36 RealBadAngel indeed
19:36 RealBadAngel take a look at treegen.cpp
19:37 VanessaE there,.
19:37 Cybersoft so if I wanted to do structures, all that is left to do is to assign a meaning that draw structures
19:37 markveidemanis_ im not using clean mod, i doesn't work for me
19:37 VanessaE moretrees and plantlife forum threads updated
19:38 kaeza markveidemanis_, I used it to clean up all of MOBF ents plus VanessaE flowers for lag testing purposes
19:38 kaeza so maybe you are not using it correctly
19:39 VanessaE markveidemanis_, OldCoder:  Please upgrade plantlife and moretrees mods right away.
19:39 VanessaE markveidemanis_: that upgrade ^^^^^ will fix your problem, you don't need to remove them now, they won't keep re-growing anymore.
19:39 markveidemanis_ Im not using conifers
19:40 markveidemanis_ i need to register an abm to remove them
19:40 kaeza markveidemanis_, that's exactly what clean does
19:40 markveidemanis_ and i would like as little lagg as possible, that means less generated structures
19:40 markveidemanis_ clean does not work for me
19:41 kaeza gl;hf worldediting then :3
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19:42 Cybersoft RBA: my area of interest is generating blocks at runtime that can be used to build things like arches circular structures spanning multiple blocks
19:42 OldCoder VanessaE, k
19:42 markveidemanis_ but you said no when i asked you
19:42 RealBadAngel Cybersoft, its possible with l-systems
19:42 RealBadAngel you can modify them at runtime and draw them just
19:42 Cybersoft ie: arches that look curvy, ie: not made of 1m^3 cubes
19:43 Cybersoft one way I found of doing that is to generate blocks on the fly with a circle arc cut from them
19:43 RealBadAngel think of L-systems axioms as of programming language
19:44 RealBadAngel because in fact it is one
19:44 Cybersoft RealBadAngel: Almost anything is possible in C++. The question is always how hard/how long it will take :)
19:45 Cybersoft like it's possible to do a traveling salesman implementation in c++ with all the cities in the world. The problem is that the sun will blows up before you get an answer
19:45 RealBadAngel when its a hobby, time factor doesnt really matter
19:45 RealBadAngel we just code our ideas
19:46 RealBadAngel sooner or later comes one day like today that our work gets finished
19:46 Cybersoft It does for me, I'm paid to code so I don't have much free time... my main constraint is to minimize implementation time
19:47 RealBadAngel im also doing paid projects, but Minetest is hobby
19:47 RealBadAngel and here time doesnt matter
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19:48 Cybersoft and from what I understand the main constraint of this project is to maximize performance so that old computers can here the new features
19:49 Cybersoft *can use
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19:50 RealBadAngel one of them
19:51 RealBadAngel what needs more computin power its often made as an option
19:51 RealBadAngel not all of us are PC museum fans ;)
19:53 PilzAdam Cybersoft, another goal is to create a good survival gameplay
19:53 PilzAdam for now, mobs is what we need to do next
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19:54 PilzAdam the plan is that someone create them in Lua and tells the engine devs what engine patches are needed
19:56 Cybersoft I saw part of that discussion, wasn't there an nissue with using 3d models and animation?
19:56 Cybersoft *issue
20:01 marktraceur VanessaE: Hey, can I bug you a sec about a documentation thing?
20:01 markveidemanis IM DONE
20:01 markveidemanis wanna see the finished tower?
20:05 VanessaE marktraceur: sure
20:06 markveidemanis ??
20:06 markveidemanis tab?
20:06 marktraceur Any artistic types out there want to help create some logos for different bits of the system? I need one to represent the engine (gears maybe?), one to represent mods, and one to represent documentation/translation/art
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20:06 VanessaE markveidemanis:   [01-19 15:01] <marktraceur> VanessaE: Hey, can I bug you a sec about a documentation thing?
20:06 markveidemanis IL take a shot
20:06 marktraceur VanessaE: Do you think you could weigh in on the first draft of an artistic style guide for textures?
20:07 marktraceur VanessaE: i.e. for textures to be included in minetest_game or core
20:07 VanessaE marktraceur: sure
20:07 marktraceur VanessaE: http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=Visual_style_guidelines&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1
20:07 VanessaE marktraceur: right, I figured that's what you were thinking of
20:07 * VanessaE looks...
20:08 marktraceur VanessaE: /win 30
20:08 marktraceur Damn it
20:08 VanessaE heh
20:08 VanessaE it might help if you pointed me to a first draft to *look* at :D
20:08 markveidemanis ATCHOOOOO!!!
20:08 marktraceur VanessaE: I guess when I said "weigh in on" I meant "compose"
20:08 * VanessaE is blown over by markveidemanis's sneeze
20:08 * marktraceur should have been more clear
20:09 VanessaE marktraceur: oh heh, actually in that case not right now
20:09 marktraceur KK
20:09 markveidemanis *markveidemanis'
20:09 markveidemanis not s's
20:09 markveidemanis thats not good
20:09 markveidemanis Heh
20:09 marktraceur markveidemanis: So if you get those icons figured out you should upload them to the wiki: http://dev.minetest.net/Special:Upload
20:11 markveidemanis What's the name of the first registered minetest forum account in reverse?
20:11 markveidemanis not uresstet?
20:11 marktraceur tetsseru?
20:12 markveidemanis wait, it was celeron
20:12 markveidemanis 55norelec
20:12 markveidemanis Successful login
20:12 Jordach VanessaE, i've done bigger sneezes than that
20:13 Jordach (and i've been sneezing all damn day!)
20:13 markveidemanis **A***A***A
20:13 markveidemanis ATCHO-
20:13 markveidemanis Dont interrupt!
20:15 Cybersoft honestly I wouldn't even know where to start to code mobs / characters
20:15 Cybersoft 2 legs or 4 legs? animation need those look right in both cases, maybe with some sort of skeleton system?
20:15 Cybersoft what if the mob is a spider and needs more legs?
20:15 Cybersoft (and probably a different skeleton)
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20:18 VanessaE G*d please no spiders and skeletons
20:18 TheZenKitteh why not spiders or skeletons?
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20:18 * TheZenKitteh prefers zombies but im sure most here know that by now
20:19 Cybersoft TheZenKitteh: cuz spiders are scary
20:19 VanessaE because MC already has those and from every video I've seen with them present, they're a terrible idea.
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20:19 Cybersoft yeah but what about elevators with spider webs in them that slows you down and stuff?
20:19 VanessaE never heard of such a thing.
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20:20 Cybersoft it's a technique sometimes used when you make vertical mine shafts
20:20 TheZenKitteh I will say vanessae I've been going nuts to see these new trees from that moretrees mod but so far it appears even after about 21 hours there is still no new trees.. installing update now
20:20 VanessaE we don't need that
20:20 Cybersoft instead of using ladders you use spider webs (since they slow you down) and water at the very end
20:21 VanessaE just punch a few holes in the sides of the shaft and use the sneak key to grab onto one of those ledges on the way down
20:21 Cybersoft so your 64 meter fall becomes like a 2m fall instead
20:22 VanessaE in MT we don't need to worry about such stuff
20:22 TheZenKitteh for now put a block of water at bottom of shaft and freefall? I have such a mining shaft. quick to get down but long time to get up
20:23 VanessaE ladders or water at the bottom, ledges to grab onto every so often on the way down if you need to stop at a specific level, etc.
20:23 VanessaE and use a sneak elevator or teleporter mod to get back out
20:24 markveidemanis http://dev.minetest.net/File:Untitled.jpg
20:24 VanessaE jpg for pixel art? >:-(
20:24 markveidemanis i think its bad...
20:24 markveidemanis Hmmm?
20:24 VanessaE what is it supposed to be?
20:24 FreeFull What you can do in minetest is sneakclimb
20:25 markveidemanis a gear
20:25 FreeFull markveidemanis: jpg ruins pixels
20:25 markveidemanis so png or gif
20:25 VanessaE markveidemanis: try making it with 8 teeth instead of 12 and you'll be able to make it look more rounded.
20:25 FreeFull markveidemanis: png doesn't ruin anything
20:25 FreeFull png keeps it at max quality
20:25 TheZenKitteh btw anyone here familiar with minetest and puppy linux?
20:25 FreeFull gif, 256 colour restriction but otherwise is fine too
20:25 markveidemanis its the anti-aliasing that *ruins* it
20:26 VanessaE markveidemanis: jpg is not meant for pixel art.  don't use it for that.
20:26 FreeFull markveidemanis: You mean in the zoom?
20:26 markveidemanis Ok
20:26 markveidemanis zoom?
20:26 markveidemanis yep
20:26 markveidemanis Ok, il use png
20:26 FreeFull That's just the wiki/browser not doing nearest pixel scaling
20:26 markveidemanis can i convert it somehow
20:27 TheZenKitteh o__O
20:27 markveidemanis http://minetest.org/data/worldlogs/marktwain-log.txt
20:28 markveidemanis ^ive been busy
20:29 FreeFull markveidemanis: You can resave as png
20:29 FreeFull the jpg probably ruined the colours though
20:29 markveidemanis nah its a terrible gear
20:30 markveidemanis i think i would have to make it in minetest first
20:30 markveidemanis from bloks
20:30 markveidemanis blocks
20:32 markveidemanis changed ip
20:32 markveidemanis not disconnected...
20:32 marktraceur markveidemanis: How are those icons coming?
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20:48 VanessaE back
20:48 * STHGOM cheers
20:50 TheZenKitteh wb vanessae
20:50 VanessaE thanks
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21:04 FreeFull With the new creative mode, you can only grab one torch at a time from the creative menu
21:05 VanessaE place it in your inventory and it becomes infinite
21:05 VanessaE (except if you want to craft with it)
21:05 VanessaE (then it becomes irritating)
21:09 FreeFull VanessaE: Oh yeah, it does
21:09 FreeFull But not for crafting or eating
21:09 FreeFull So apples
21:10 Mika_R Oldcoder, got any servers up?
21:12 Mika_R VanessaE, Wow
21:12 OldCoder Hi
21:12 OldCoder Mika_R, All of them
21:12 VanessaE Mika_R: what?
21:12 Mika_R ok, then i hit wrong the adress problably.
21:12 Mika_R VanessaE, went to your server
21:12 VanessaE Mika_R: you like?
21:12 VanessaE :)
21:13 Mika_R yes
21:13 Mika_R but it said something about my client
21:13 VanessaE the sign-in message you mean?
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21:14 Mika_R that it might not be fully compatible
21:15 VanessaE oh
21:15 VanessaE just keep your client up-to-date :-
21:15 VanessaE :-0
21:15 VanessaE :-)
21:15 sapier1 vanessae is your server still running?
21:16 VanessaE sapier1: yes
21:16 VanessaE but it keeps hanging up somewhat
21:16 VanessaE less than before though
21:16 sapier1 hmm I'm not quite sure but I assume time with no crash is getting significant
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21:18 sapier if it's still running by the end of the weekend I'll update the commits to be ready for merge
21:18 Mika_R Oldcoder, what's the address / port to anunakkis europe?
21:18 OldCoder That one is down but will return
21:18 OldCoder I got the files back the other day
21:18 OldCoder All the U.S. worlds are up
21:18 Mika_R ok, i lost all in format
21:18 OldCoder Lost what?
21:18 OldCoder Go on
21:18 Mika_R i had them bookmarked
21:19 OldCoder The worlds?
21:19 OldCoder http://minetest.org/
21:19 Mika_R your site
21:19 OldCoder See link above
21:19 sapier oldcoder did you already update mobf?
21:19 OldCoder sapier, No... I wish to speak with you
21:19 OldCoder Perhaps right now
21:19 * OldCoder considers
21:19 sapier of course
21:20 OldCoder Do you wish me to try the latest stuff now?
21:20 OldCoder A few weeks ago you said it was not ready
21:20 sapier yes I haven't done any major changes for 4 versions now I don't think it's bugfree but it should be quite stable
21:20 OldCoder Then...
21:21 OldCoder May I have a conservative version? Similar to what I am running now at first? Can this be done by config settings now? Or must I patch again?
21:21 sapier still don't update all worlds at once and have a backup done before updating
21:21 OldCoder Fine
21:21 OldCoder I backed up last night
21:21 OldCoder See questions above
21:22 sapier I'll create a patch for you, as you still don't want changes in minetest.conf?
21:23 OldCoder Not if they are 500 to 1,000 column lines
21:23 sapier what mobs do you want? there's no big performance difference with current version anymore
21:23 OldCoder Hmm
21:23 OldCoder Explain the basic idea of mobs again
21:23 OldCoder They are large crowds
21:23 OldCoder of things?
21:23 sapier any animal(type) is a mob
21:23 OldCoder Yes
21:24 OldCoder Go on
21:24 OldCoder What exactly is a mob?
21:24 sapier in core it's an entity
21:24 OldCoder Yes, go on
21:24 sapier animal_sheep is a mod defining 3 mobs sheep sheep_naked and chick
21:25 PilzAdam isnt it Moving Object Block or something like this?
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21:25 Zetetic` "mobile entity" i thought
21:25 sapier no
21:25 OldCoder sapier, O.K.
21:25 OldCoder sapier, what i'd like
21:25 sapier there are nodes and entities in minetest
21:25 sapier nodes have static positions entities don't
21:25 OldCoder is simply a way to select categories without long config file lines
21:25 PilzAdam "Moving Object Block" comes from MC
21:25 OldCoder A sample patch that disables some might be useful
21:25 OldCoder Let's proceed
21:26 OldCoder I'll give your mobs a workout if you like
21:26 sapier there's a config gui which gives you posibillity to disable any mob by it's own ... unfortunatelly this is going to work in singleplayer only by now
21:26 OldCoder I don't use GUIs
21:27 sapier ok then I'll patch it for you
21:27 OldCoder What I request is a sample patch that shows how to enable or disable categories at the source level
21:27 OldCoder t y
21:27 OldCoder Just a comment line or two there would be much appreciated
21:27 OldCoder In the long run...
21:27 sapier ok
21:27 OldCoder I will write Perl code to do thiws
21:27 OldCoder I will write Perl code to do this *
21:27 babyface1031 sapier: where do vombies spawn
21:28 sapier at night on surface
21:28 sapier if not lighted
21:28 babyface1031 on any surface
21:28 babyface1031 ok ty
21:28 sapier no surface being in sunlight at day
21:29 babyface1031 ok and last question on the vombie trap what is in the middle for the craft recipe
21:29 sapier ... missleading sentence ... vombies spawn on surface that have full sunlight during daytime
21:29 sapier a scale from a clownfish
21:30 * TheZenKitteh likes vombies but they are still a bit laggy.. better than before but still a little
21:30 sapier laggy meaning not catching you or laggy meaning slow down server?
21:30 TheZenKitteh slow down server
21:30 * OldCoder listens!
21:30 OldCoder No vombies
21:30 OldCoder No laggy please
21:30 * OldCoder likes fast
21:31 TheZenKitteh id love to see good vombies that can have like hundreds in a small area without lag
21:31 TheZenKitteh would make survival fun
21:31 sapier :-) I thought so vombies aren't loved very much they can be really anoying at night
21:31 TheZenKitteh lol
21:31 sapier I don't think this can be done with minetests current architecture
21:31 OldCoder sapier, so devombie me
21:31 TheZenKitteh long ago when mods were new and so were animals part of the world I ran was surviving zombies at night
21:31 OldCoder Any other mobs to disable folks?
21:32 TheZenKitteh and I made them more aggressive
21:32 TheZenKitteh lol
21:32 babyface1031 well nvm if vombies are leaving
21:32 sapier I'll create a patch that will enable you to en/disable vombies/mob categorys by commenting in/out single lines. Is this what you want?
21:32 TheZenKitteh of course since then either minetest got slower or animals mod got slower. not sure which
21:32 sapier more agressive?
21:33 TheZenKitteh lol yea on the old world I ran when it came night time you better be armed and protected or you will die
21:33 sapier ohh ok but current vombies are already very agressive
21:33 TheZenKitteh now that armor exists (I think it works now?) and more weapons.. zombies would be epic
21:34 TheZenKitteh of course my idea of a zombie is one that hunts players, can open simple wooden doors/gates/etc and jump single block things
21:35 TheZenKitteh also can "gang up on" a player
21:35 sapier opening doors is a bad thing ;-)
21:36 TheZenKitteh wooden doors
21:36 sapier everything else is already supported
21:36 TheZenKitteh steel doors should remain unopenable
21:36 sapier make it an enhancement issue on animals_modpack github
21:41 markveidemanis Hi
21:41 markveidemanis http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3954
21:44 markveidemanis pipeworks has teleportation?
21:44 RealBadAngel you want to remove technic? :P
21:45 markveidemanis It's not being used
21:45 markveidemanis *New people* tend to join my server and as we know about new people...
21:45 markveidemanis N00B
21:46 markveidemanis if it is really needes i can add it later
21:46 markveidemanis Needed
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21:46 markveidemanis or shall i close the vote now? :P
21:47 RealBadAngel just jokin, do whatever you want 2
21:47 markveidemanis I kno
21:48 markveidemanis does it lagg?
21:48 RealBadAngel as any piece of code
21:49 OldCoder Does anybody suggest mobs besides vombies to suppress?
21:49 markveidemanis i say remove all entities excluding ufos, boats, items and the player
21:50 OldCoder !
21:50 OldCoder Geez
21:50 OldCoder This is for the other worlds, Mark
21:50 OldCoder We *know* you've decided to strip down your world and that's fine
21:50 markveidemanis Heh, that just means removing animals
21:50 markveidemanis and technic
21:50 markveidemanis and mesecons
21:50 markveidemanis and the rest
21:51 markveidemanis That i listed
21:51 OldCoder sapier, yes thank you regarding patch
21:51 markveidemanis which patch?
21:51 markveidemanis did you get the files
21:51 markveidemanis default, technic, stairsplus, cleanconifers
21:52 markveidemanis well, stairsplus and cleanconifers need more editing
21:55 markveidemanis and i have updated trash mod
21:56 markveidemanis i have stairs plus and trashcan uploading...
21:56 markveidemanis .http://www.sendspace.com/file/q0ty37
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21:56 markveidemanis Hi
21:56 Kacey im on a computer this time ^_^
21:57 markveidemanis wanna come on my server?
21:57 Kacey not right now
21:57 markveidemanis and take some screenshots
21:57 markveidemanis Ok
21:58 markveidemanis moltenbot was more reliable
21:58 sapier https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack/tree/oldcoder_special_1.x
21:59 sapier Oldcoder change mobf/oc_mob_selection.lua to en/disable those mob you (don't) want
21:59 markveidemanis If any  new people want to build on my server, join now as i will not be around later
21:59 OldCoder sapier, t y
21:59 markveidemanis sapier: for which server is this on?
22:00 markveidemanis *for
22:00 OldCoder sapier, Indicate when I should update and provide correct link
22:00 OldCoder t y
22:00 markveidemanis 48967
22:00 markveidemanis =uptime:D
22:00 sapier https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack/archive/oldcoder_special_1.x.zip
22:00 sapier now
22:00 sapier ;-)
22:00 markveidemanis http://servers.minetest.ru/
22:00 Kacey i wish i could get a better RAM card for this computer...
22:01 markveidemanis mine is going down D:
22:01 sapier it's all mobs enabled except vombies
22:01 sapier and creeper
22:01 sapier -- boombomb
22:01 sapier i need to rename that folde
22:01 Kacey when is your server going down markv
22:01 markveidemanis NEVER: i hope
22:02 markveidemanis when the internet crashes
22:02 Kacey haha
22:02 markveidemanis whoops, i crashed the internet
22:03 OldCoder sapier, t y!
22:03 OldCoder I shall try in the next hour
22:03 OldCoder and report the next time we talk
22:03 markveidemanis **cheer in the background**
22:03 Kacey almost on...
22:03 sapier if you want to disable more mobs you only need to remove the comment signs
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22:10 Uberi hey is that doc sprint thing going on right now?
22:11 sapier yes what are you still standing here? ;-)
22:11 Uberi eh I'm not getting anywhere studying for exams anyways
22:11 sapier :-)
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22:13 Kacey doc sprint?
22:13 Kacey i missed my chance D:
22:13 Uberi Kacey: over in #minetest-doc
22:13 Uberi it's still going on
22:13 Uberi get over there
22:19 sokomine hm :-( and the newest version doesn't compile on my machine anymore...maybe if i'd compile some libs manually......
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22:21 markveidemanis OldCoder
22:21 markveidemanis I took a *Few* screenshots
22:21 markveidemanis Well, its 1 GB
22:21 markveidemanis jkjk
22:21 markveidemanis 29MB
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22:26 OldCoder U.S. worlds going down for modifications
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22:27 markveidemanis Wait, US?
22:27 markveidemanis which servers are in the us
22:29 OldCoder VanessaE, what patch should I use for the new moretrees?
22:29 VanessaE OldCoder: just grab the latest moretrees and plantlife mods from git master.
22:29 OldCoder I did
22:29 OldCoder How do I patch it?
22:29 VanessaE no need to apply any patches.
22:29 OldCoder Sure?
22:29 VanessaE they are mapgen-based now.
22:29 OldCoder Will people be happier?
22:30 VanessaE yes
22:30 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/treegen_stuff.png
22:30 RealBadAngel screenshot with inventory look of all trees related stuff
22:30 RealBadAngel and im glad to inform that tree revolution in mt is comin VERY soon
22:30 RealBadAngel stay tuned
22:30 * VanessaE gets slightly out of tune ;)
22:30 markveidemanis VanessaE, can you make a mod that deletes conifers:leaves, conifers:trunk
22:30 Uberi RealBadAngel: say is that going into trunk? :O
22:30 VanessaE markveidemanis: no.
22:30 markveidemanis D:
22:30 Uberi markveidemanis: it's pretty easy, register an AB< for those nodes that just removes them
22:30 Uberi * ABM
22:31 markveidemanis Help...
22:31 Uberi if you want I can write you one real quick
22:31 markveidemanis minetest.register_abm
22:31 markveidemanis thats all i know
22:31 Uberi OK, hold on for a bit
22:31 markveidemanis ok,
22:31 markveidemanis if im not here, plz give it to OldCoder
22:32 Uberi sure
22:32 Uberi almost done
22:32 RealBadAngel happier? thats far too less said
22:32 OldCoder hi
22:32 markveidemanis and can you tell me how you did it?
22:32 markveidemanis Hi!
22:32 Uberi markveidemanis: I'll show you in a bit
22:33 markveidemanis k
22:33 RealBadAngel that is goin to change the look and the gamplay once and for all
22:33 markveidemanis Oh god, more trees!
22:33 markveidemanis HIDE FOR YOUR LIFE
22:34 Uberi markveidemanis: completely untested: http://www.pasteall.org/38974
22:34 markveidemanis trees are good as they are
22:34 OldCoder any other mod changes?
22:34 markveidemanis OC^
22:34 OldCoder ?
22:34 Uberi markveidemanis: so just put that in your init.lua, and you've got the mod!
22:34 RealBadAngel hold your axes ladies and gentelman ;)
22:34 OldCoder Well?
22:34 OldCoder any other mod changes?
22:35 markveidemanis can you copy that into the cleanconifers folder
22:35 Uberi markveidemanis: me? nope, I've got to do my work now :)
22:35 RealBadAngel why youre thinkin bout conifers just?
22:35 RealBadAngel there are lotsa more kinds of trees
22:36 markveidemanis they are the only things that cause trouble;spawning in protected areas
22:36 markveidemanis all else is fine
22:36 RealBadAngel forget bout ANY trees related  mods from the past
22:36 Uberi markveidemanis: I've been saying for a while now that we need a protector mod that overrides minetest.add_node()
22:36 RealBadAngel and even forget bout default trees
22:37 markveidemanis OldCoder: have you removed technic and mesecons, patched ores.lua, concrete.lua, removed the previously specified mods, added clean, enabled irc?
22:37 markveidemanis **GASP
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22:38 Uberi removed mesecons? why on earth would you want to do that?
22:38 markveidemanis L_Lagg
22:38 markveidemanis and not being used
22:38 OldCoder marktraceur, I don't know what you mean by patched ores
22:38 OldCoder Is that a new patch
22:38 OldCoder If it is the sendspace file
22:38 marktraceur I don't either
22:38 markveidemanis decided to keep homedecor,OC
22:39 OldCoder I told you I had no time
22:39 OldCoder D:
22:39 OldCoder Make up your mind!
22:39 RealBadAngel markveidemanis, once again you ask for Technic deletion in front of me, i will let my dog bite you :P
22:39 markveidemanis Heh.
22:39 markveidemanis *removal
22:39 Muadtralk why u remove technic?
22:39 markveidemanis whi can't it be called tekkit
22:39 OldCoder ?!
22:39 OldCoder Like that is relevant?
22:39 markveidemanis would that be too minecrafty
22:40 OldCoder "minecrafty" ?
22:40 Muadtralk but its not tekkit
22:40 Uberi markveidemanis: it would lead to massive confusion, for one
22:40 markveidemanis Fine: M*necrafty
22:40 markveidemanis technic is for SP
22:40 Uberi markveidemanis: for example, it's hard enough to search for WorldEdit in google
22:40 markveidemanis Heh
22:40 Uberi you need to search for "worldedit minetest" to get anything relevant
22:40 markveidemanis i wanna have worldedit irl
22:41 Uberi that's because the MC WorldEdit is far more popular than ours
22:41 markveidemanis Yep
22:41 Uberi it's simply the fact of the matter
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22:41 markveidemanis anyone care to see my screenies?
22:41 Uberi sure
22:41 markveidemanis of my server
22:41 markveidemanis 97%
22:42 markveidemanis http://www.sendspace.com/file/sh56lk
22:42 markveidemanis !up google.com
22:43 markveidemanis http://www.sendspace.com/file/sh56lk
22:43 markveidemanis tell me what you think
22:43 OldCoder sapier, I don't support fire
22:43 markveidemanis well, i have to go
22:43 OldCoder sapier, Do any animals but animal_creeper need it?
22:43 markveidemanis OC, can you look at the screens plz
22:43 OldCoder No
22:43 OldCoder sorry
22:43 OldCoder no time
22:43 OldCoder I told you
22:44 OldCoder sapier, Do any animals but animal_creeper need it?
22:44 OldCoder markveidemanis, see me again
22:44 markveidemanis save the link for when you do have time
22:44 sapier creeper and dm
22:44 OldCoder If I disable them
22:44 OldCoder All set?
22:44 sapier but dm will work
22:44 OldCoder It is aborting
22:44 OldCoder on startup
22:44 markveidemanis im going.Bye
22:44 OldCoder c u
22:45 sapier hmm delete them
22:45 OldCoder Just delete the mods?
22:45 sapier creeper and dm
22:45 OldCoder Simple enough
22:45 sapier yes
22:46 OldCoder Will take a few more minutes to restart
22:57 OldCoder NEWS
22:57 OldCoder Worlds restarted
22:57 OldCoder Please go see what is broken
22:57 OldCoder Do conifers work correctly now?
22:57 * Kacey wants to make a microsoft points code generator
22:57 OldCoder And how do the new animals look?
22:57 OldCoder Done
22:58 OldCoder
22:58 OldCoder REQUEST
22:58 RealBadAngel OldCoder, what bout EU?
22:58 OldCoder Somebody give me coords for something new to screenshot
22:59 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I plan to move it to a new EU VPS shortly
22:59 OldCoder I cannot this weekend... the new VPS must be prepared
22:59 OldCoder And there are real-life issues to deal with
22:59 OldCoder This update right here
22:59 OldCoder Is all I can manage
22:59 RealBadAngel ok
22:59 OldCoder REQUEST
22:59 OldCoder Somebody give me coords for something new to screenshot
22:59 OldCoder And test the new animals please
23:00 OldCoder RealBadAngel, PM
23:00 RealBadAngel wait for upcomin trees revolution
23:01 marktraceur Did the mechanics of locked chests change somehow since 0.4.4?
23:02 sokomine good there's google. someone had the same problem. calling cmake in the src dir caused the error. i'm quite sure i previously compiled when in src/ ... but maybe i'm mistaken
23:02 RealBadAngel marktraceur, i dont think so
23:02 marktraceur Hm.
23:02 RealBadAngel why youre asking?
23:02 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Just having trouble with them on my server, can't place a new one and open it
23:03 marktraceur Old ones open fine, but new ones don't go
23:03 sokomine oldcoder: did you remove all those mods only from one specific world or from all?
23:04 RealBadAngel havent seen any changes to chests
23:04 RealBadAngel only pipeworks
23:04 RealBadAngel do you have them?
23:05 sokomine if you did build a shared locked chest (they require special crafting and have another texture) then you need a key to open the lock. but if that's the case you'll get a message
23:05 OldCoder sokomine, I do not understand the question
23:05 sokomine was that mod removal specific to one of your worlds or all, oldcoder?
23:05 sokomine i'm compiling right now so can't check yet :-)
23:05 OldCoder REQUESTS 1. Test new animals 2. Check conifers 3. Give me new screenshots and coords
23:05 OldCoder sokomine, I do not understand
23:05 * OldCoder is on a short break
23:05 OldCoder o/
23:06 sokomine ok. not so important. relax a bit :-)
23:06 OldCoder Somebody trap a new animal for me
23:07 OldCoder Let me come and screenshot it
23:07 OldCoder Or a barn
23:07 OldCoder etc.
23:07 OldCoder
23:07 sokomine which of your worlds, oldcoder?
23:08 PilzAdam going to sleep now; bye
23:14 Kacey hehe
23:14 Kacey well that was usless
23:15 sokomine ah. yes. definitely the newest type on oldcoders world
23:16 OldCoder sokomine, any
23:17 sokomine then come to port 30003 and beam to me. i've placed two sheep and have some more stored away
23:17 OldCoder sokomine, t y
23:18 OldCoder sokomine, On phone will come in a few minutes
23:18 OldCoder starting now actually
23:18 OldCoder Hold on
23:18 sokomine they're definitley the newest one
23:18 sokomine ok
23:19 OldCoder coming
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23:25 kaeza no documentation effor can counter this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4505
23:25 kaeza effort*
23:25 kaeza that's just plain hopeless
23:26 kaeza ...or a troll
23:26 Uberi well if you don't extract the ZIP, you're not going very far :P
23:30 sokomine ah. first lamb born
23:33 sapier :-)
23:33 sapier seems at least something is working
23:33 meldrian goodNightEveryone
23:34 OldCoder
23:35 OldCoder Does anybody else have a scene they wish to show me
23:35 OldCoder For a screenshot?
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23:43 erlehmann ASSUME i want to switch every block to a lego block
23:43 erlehmann how would i start?
23:43 Uberi aliases?
23:44 erlehmann i mean how to have custom block shapes?
23:44 Uberi oh, use nodeboxes
23:44 Uberi they can make any node a set of axis aligned boxes
23:45 erlehmann Uberi, example?
23:45 kaeza just add a separate node on top of each other node for the studs and make it so by removing either the "studs" or the "block" removes both
23:46 Uberi erlehmann: lemme check
23:46 kaeza make sure the studs are buildable_to
23:46 Uberi try this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2840
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23:50 Uberi erlehmann: also: https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-API/wiki/nodes
23:52 kaeza good night channel
23:52 Uberi bye
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23:58 Dogzilla131 Hi all
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23:58 Kacey hello

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