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00:11 Menche joined #minetest
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00:21 mekkakupa joined #minetest
00:21 mekkakupa Just found mindtest, freak'n awesome!
00:21 mekkakupa er.. minetest
00:21 marktraceur mekkakupa: Welcome!
00:21 Uberi hey mekkakupa
00:22 marktraceur mekkakupa: We're glad to hear it :)
00:23 berome mekkakupa: ...it will be ever better with your touch :-)
00:23 marktraceur berome: Thaaaat was a bit creepy :)
00:24 mekkakupa Agreed.
00:24 mekkakupa ;-)
00:26 iqualfragile mekkakupa: try dwarf fortress, its way better
00:28 berome ouch, sorry for that, I return learn english :-/
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00:29 * marktraceur disagrees with iqualfragile
00:29 NakedFury why not try TestFortress
00:30 marktraceur Dorf Fortress may be *good*, but it's....not better
00:30 NakedFury the ultimate fussion between minetest and df
00:30 marktraceur Quit fussion
00:30 NakedFury the entry level for DF is high
00:30 mekkakupa oh wow, the debian testing version is crazy out of date
00:31 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/galery.png from left to right: oak, sequoia,palm,birch, spruce
00:31 marktraceur mekkakupa: Yeah, better to build it yourself or at least download a less-official package
00:32 NakedFury RealBadAngel: http://terrafirmacraft.com/wiki/Trees
00:34 mekkakupa marktraceur: This is probably a dumb question, but do I just download everything in the minetest folder from github?
00:34 marktraceur mekkakupa: Yep! You can get an archive of it or a git clone and build from that.
00:34 Uberi mekkakupa: what OS?
00:35 mekkakupa Uberi: Debian. Just want to make sure I pull down the right folder before I compile. I think I saw the requirements in the radme
00:35 Menche you need both minetest and minetest_game
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00:35 marktraceur mekkakupa: You should definitely think about using git to get it...that way you can build any version of the game
00:36 Menche it is much easier to update using git
00:36 RealBadAngel NakedFury, thx, that can give me colour ideas for rest of the trees
00:36 NakedFury no problem
00:37 NakedFury and tree ideas too
00:37 Uberi hey RealBadAngel, that looks nice, are they biome specific?
00:37 RealBadAngel form tree idea to the model is loong way ;)
00:38 RealBadAngel Uberi, im not takin care now bout biomes, im just creating tree models and all necesary nodes for them
00:38 RealBadAngel its kinda tree framework
00:39 RealBadAngel somebody else shall take them and use
00:39 Uberi ah, I see
00:41 RealBadAngel but answering to your question, trees shall grow in their own specific biomes
00:41 Uberi awesome, this adds some much needed biome diversity
00:42 RealBadAngel it would be stupid to find coconut palm in the snowy  mountain biome ;)
00:42 NakedFury first we need the biomes
00:42 mekkakupa Just curious, which distros do you guys run?
00:42 NakedFury I run the windows seven distro
00:42 RealBadAngel lol
00:43 RealBadAngel im on debian squeeze
00:43 marktraceur mekkakupa: I run Ubuntu 12.04, Debian Squeeze, and various versions of Trisquel on different computers
00:43 mekkakupa NakedFury: Never heard of it.. is it like Mint?
00:43 RealBadAngel rotfl
00:44 NakedFury havent seen mint but you can compare it to microsofts Windows OS
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00:46 iqualfragile night
00:47 iqualfragile & read awsomeness: http://dfstories.com/the-hamlet-of-tyranny/
00:48 Oblivion1500 m    m        ""#    ""#
00:48 Oblivion1500 #    #  mmm     #      #     mmm
00:48 Oblivion1500 #mmmm# #"  #    #      #    #" "#
00:48 Oblivion1500 #    # #""""    #      #    #   #
00:48 Oblivion1500 #    # "#mm"    "mm    "mm  "#m#"
00:49 Oblivion1500 ok that doesent look like i expected it to look
00:49 marktraceur Oblivion1500: It would be great if you could not do that in channel
00:49 Oblivion1500 ok
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00:52 babyface1031 hi
00:53 Oblivion1500 hey
00:55 * marktraceur waves
00:59 babyface1031 what can you do with conifer leaves
01:00 marktraceur It depends on what kind of conifer it is
01:00 marktraceur White pine needles make a fine tea
01:01 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/dawn.png
01:01 babyface1031 i mean i cant make rope from them i cant use them in a furnace as fuel what good are they
01:02 marktraceur Oh, in minetest.
01:02 babyface1031 yes
01:04 NakedFury lensflare!
01:07 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/red_cliffs_wallpaper.png
01:07 RealBadAngel this was better one
01:09 NakedFury is that you working on shadows and sun glare?
01:11 babyface1031 hi RealBadAngel
01:12 RealBadAngel hi
01:13 babyface1031 on OldCoder server i cnat get the electric furnace to work
01:13 RealBadAngel NakedFury, that is im workin with gimp, and made just new wallpaper for myself ;)
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01:13 NakedFury awwww
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01:13 NakedFury you broke my heart
01:13 RealBadAngel hehe
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01:14 TheZenKitteh finally im back.. 3 hours later than I cared for ~_~
01:16 NakedFury welcome back
01:16 TheZenKitteh ty naked fury
01:16 TheZenKitteh I did get an idea for the bash installer while away
01:17 OldCoder Hi
01:17 TheZenKitteh it would be trivial to make an alternate that can use free hosting like omploader for mod storage
01:17 TheZenKitteh hey oldcoder
01:17 OldCoder babyface1031, I know little of furnaces... talk to the authors and let me know
01:17 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, Hi!
01:17 babyface1031 i am OldCoder
01:21 kaeza RealBadAngel, new Wallpaper?
01:22 kaeza have been using the red cliffs since you released it ^_^
01:23 kaeza hey TheZenKitteh
01:23 TheZenKitteh hey kaeza
01:23 RealBadAngel i made just another one with sequoias
01:23 kaeza nice
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01:27 kizeren I can no longer make wood planks from conifer trees?
01:28 RealBadAngel kizeren, hold on, planks etc are gonna be aviable soon
01:28 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/galery.png
01:29 kizeren Ahh ok.  Took a break from AngleFury world and come back with messed up graphics, wood planks missing and holes in the side of chests.....
01:29 kizeren Oo those look awesome.
01:30 RealBadAngel holes in chests are for transport tubes
01:31 kizeren I thought so.
01:31 kizeren Last I looked there was only an injecter.  can chests recieve now?
01:32 RealBadAngel some1 else took VanessaE and mine code and made it work
01:32 VanessaE yup
01:32 VanessaE and I integrated it into pipeworks.
01:32 VanessaE current git HEAD contains flowing water and item transport
01:32 VanessaE Nore/Novatux is the person's name btw
01:32 kizeren I wonder if OldCoder has it on his servers yet.
01:33 VanessaE dunno
01:33 OldCoder kizeren, have which?
01:33 OldCoder I updated all of the VanessaE mods last night
01:33 OldCoder We have moretrees now for example
01:33 kizeren port 30000
01:33 OldCoder Pipe Works etc. updated
01:33 OldCoder Check and see
01:33 kizeren I think I am the only one playing on that port :)
01:33 VanessaE that answers that :)
01:34 NakedFury right now
01:34 NakedFury thats the port I play on
01:34 kizeren I know....but you been down in the dungeon for weeks it seems.
01:35 NakedFury came to the surface for a construction
01:35 kizeren I will have to go explore and see what your doing then :)
01:37 kizeren So .... I will be using technic tubes instead of pipeworks?  or anyone point me in the right direction for this item transport.
01:38 VanessaE they are pipeworks tubes in both cases.
01:38 VanessaE (technic depends on pipeworks to get tubes)
01:39 kizeren ahh okay
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01:49 kizeren Once you have ingots you can not turn them back into dust can you?
01:49 NakedFury dont think so. lump to dust to ingot
01:49 RealBadAngel no you cant
01:50 RealBadAngel only lumps can be grinded down to dusts
01:50 kizeren ok
01:50 kizeren A mining I shall go then.
01:51 RealBadAngel if ingots were grindeable down to dusts, the system would break and allow to make infinite ammounts of ingots
01:51 kizeren True
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02:03 babyface1031 is there anything you can do with conifer leaves
02:04 TheZenKitteh finally
02:05 TheZenKitteh bash mod installer is ready for release... and has the beginning of a repo hosted from the github account itself
02:05 TheZenKitteh https://github.com/TheZenKitteh/minetest-bashmodinstaller
02:05 kaeza babyface1031, nothing :/
02:05 kaeza stash them away
02:06 babyface1031 ok
02:06 TheZenKitteh this setup of this test repo also makes it so the mod authors can get their mods in the repo pretty easy if they use git already
02:06 Dogzilla131 Hi kaeza
02:07 TheZenKitteh brb I've worked up a hunger
02:09 kaeza hey Dogzilla131
02:12 Kacey joined #minetest
02:12 kaeza hey Kacey
02:13 * Kacey is ranting about the stupid people in the workd
02:13 Kacey world
02:14 Kacey What is happening to our world? People are acting like total idiots. Honestly. They are acting as though walking into a school and shooting everyone (sandy hook elementary never forget) is cool. It's not. To be honest, I think doing that kind of stuff is sutpid. lms if you agree and pass this on. with enough people, we can make real change in the world.
02:14 Kacey i posted that on facebook
02:15 Menche who's acting like it's cool?
02:15 Menche apparently some people deny that it happened
02:16 Kacey do you live in the us menche?
02:16 Menche yes. CA
02:16 Kacey the sandy hook school shooting
02:16 Kacey the guy posted on facebook after that that doing that was awesome
02:17 Menche ...how is murdering 20 young kids awesome
02:17 NakedFury why dont we ever get one of this insane guys to do that in a prison?
02:17 NakedFury its always against kids
02:17 Kacey and then james holmes (i hate to be in the same state as the aurora shooting) also posted the same thing on facebook
02:18 Dogzilla131 kaeza: check the top buttons
02:18 kaeza what?
02:18 hmmmm james holmes posted 'that was awesome' on facebook in response to the school shooting?
02:18 Menche and so now everyone goes crazy about gun control because of a few sick idiots
02:18 hmmmm citation needed
02:19 Dogzilla131 Nevermind
02:19 kaeza Dogzilla131, O.o
02:19 Kacey james holmes posted about the aurora theater shooting
02:19 TheZenKitteh nakedfury because kids don't put up any fights.. unlike prisoners. also prisoners don't have access to guns. also schools are totally unarmed to defend themselves in any way from the crazies
02:20 Dogzilla131 kaeza:im having problems in the craft in the mod
02:20 hmmmm james holmes didn't have a facebook account.
02:21 TheZenKitteh if every teacher was required to train in proper firearm handling and was "requested" to conceal carry at school.. I bet yer arse there would be no school shootings within 5 years
02:21 kaeza Dogzilla131, what mod?
02:21 Menche in the aurora theater there was one "bad guy" and what, twenty+ "good guys". the one "bad guy" won because he was armed and nobody else was
02:21 Dogzilla131 Dog Blocks :D
02:22 kaeza Dogzilla131, what problems
02:22 kaeza ?
02:22 NakedFury this kind of mental morons should be killed
02:22 Dogzilla131 what blocks to use, and in which positions?
02:22 Kacey and then kids in schools are dropping out and contributing to the crimes
02:23 TheZenKitteh of course the gun debate is all over the place and technically this isn't the place to discuss it. however I will say my opinion is people in general should get mental assessments before handgun purchases and more people need to be armed and trained in self defense. the reason being criminals care not for the law so no law will stop them. only other solution is arm the potential victims and train them so they won't go accidentall
02:23 kaeza NakedFury, death is not enough punishment for these guys
02:24 Menche TheZenKitteh: i agree completely
02:24 NakedFury kaeza: unless the goverment is willing to torture them for a set amount of time prior to putting them down like rabid animals just shipping them to prison is not enough
02:24 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/morewood.png
02:24 NakedFury loading image
02:25 RealBadAngel almost all types of leaves, bark and wood
02:25 Kacey but then we pay more taxes to keep them in prison. tax money that could go to schools and educate the kids
02:25 TheZenKitteh many prisoners nakedfury hate any other prisoners who committed crimes against children.. and guards typically look the other way when said prisoners are getting their arse handed to them by the other prisoners
02:25 kaeza NakedFury, they should be left with his hands tied before all the families of those kids
02:25 kaeza s/they/he/
02:25 Kacey and then we lose money and people commit crimes formoney
02:25 Menche apparently holme's cellmates looked down on him and he had to be separated from them for safety
02:25 Kacey it is a vicious cycle
02:25 NakedFury TheZenKitteh: not enough. you end up paying for their stay in prison. even if he did that I dont want him to just go get some from behind.
02:26 NakedFury RealbadAngel that looks yummy
02:26 Menche wow the two conversations on the channel contrast quite sharply
02:26 NakedFury gonna be hard to find so many tree textures from other texture packs but worth it
02:27 TheZenKitteh anyway no disrespect intended but this convo isn't suited for #minetest I would think (unsure since no firm topic set).. how about we talk about minetest
02:27 TheZenKitteh lol
02:27 NakedFury yeah well gonna stop that now. I dont like prison for life, if you get life then they need to kill them there and then.
02:27 * Kacey is going to go punch a wall
02:27 NakedFury and yes thats all
02:28 TheZenKitteh lol I could go on for hours about how messed up this country (the usa) is.. but some people have it worse in some other countres
02:28 TheZenKitteh countries*
02:28 Menche CA where I live is one of the more messed up states
02:28 Kacey CO is screwed up also
02:29 kaeza Menche, most of us try to focus in other things when this happens. It's not that we don't care; it's that if we truly manifested our feelings with words, freenode would prolly just shut down the channel from all the profanity and death threats
02:29 TheZenKitteh would anyone on linux be willing to test the new bash mod installer I did and tell me if it works properly and if documentation is "enough"? I have confirmed it works on puppy precise and ubuntu precise
02:29 Menche apparently north dakota is the best. gets kinda cold there though
02:29 kaeza TheZenKitteh, sure
02:29 TheZenKitteh kaeza yes.. if I said what I felt on the topics of crazies and guns and laws and so forth.. id be banned for life
02:29 TheZenKitteh lol
02:30 TheZenKitteh menche I've lived in california for a few years in placer county
02:30 TheZenKitteh now back on east coast
02:30 TheZenKitteh where I was at I didn't think it was overly bad.. just expensive
02:31 TheZenKitteh real estate in california is insane and so is rental properties
02:31 Menche ya, its expensive here
02:31 Menche and the majority of CA is politically opposite me
02:32 TheZenKitteh I've been tempted to visit alaska
02:32 TheZenKitteh lived in texas about a year as well
02:32 TheZenKitteh I've lived in 3 states within a 4 year period
02:32 TheZenKitteh lol
02:32 Menche been in california my entire life
02:33 TheZenKitteh now im not sure where you are but if southern california I've heard a lot of bad things about southern california
02:33 kaeza TheZenKitteh, link to your bash mod manager?
02:33 Menche wow this thread has gone offtopic
02:33 TheZenKitteh https://github.com/TheZenKitteh/minetest-bashmodinstaller
02:34 TheZenKitteh the only mods available with it right now is in the Repo folder. also you need to edit the script to point to where you want the mods installed
02:34 TheZenKitteh life has no topic
02:34 TheZenKitteh lol
02:38 kaeza TheZenKitteh, looks good, but you don't need to include 7z along with the package. You should also consult the 7z license to see if this is possible.
02:39 TheZenKitteh 7z included for 7zip archive support
02:39 kaeza the 7z package is readily available on most distros anyway
02:39 TheZenKitteh not by default kaeza
02:39 TheZenKitteh lol
02:39 TheZenKitteh zip tar.gz and tar.bz2 are fine and all but I feel 7z is superior when it comes to finished archive size in many cases
02:39 TheZenKitteh I have considered a 7z'less fork
02:39 Menche what mods use 7zip compression anyway? most are zip and a few tar.gz
02:40 TheZenKitteh there's a packmod script to easily pack mods
02:40 Menche i think lzma or xz has the best compression ratio
02:40 TheZenKitteh if I remember right 7z uses lzma
02:40 kaeza TheZenKitteh, there's a .tar.lzma format
02:41 kaeza that is more standard on Linux IIRC
02:41 Menche my archiver has an option for .7zip and a separate one for .tar.lzma
02:41 kaeza anyway, it's a good job there
02:42 kaeza I'll proceed to test it now
02:42 kaeza there's always time for improvements :)
02:42 TheZenKitteh lol yea improvements can be done im very sure
02:43 TheZenKitteh when I get the time I want to compress various mods to different archive formats and see which is better overall
02:44 kaeza TheZenKitteh, .tar.bz2
02:44 kaeza the bulk of mods are the textures
02:44 kaeza and those are already compressed anyway
02:45 * Kacey is back
02:45 Kacey my knuckles hurt now...
02:45 Menche i think lzma is the best. but most mods are so small it shouldn't matter much
02:46 TheZenKitteh wb kacey
02:46 Kacey ty
02:46 kaeza TheZenKitteh, also, if you just use the installed tar + bzip2 programs, your script will run successfully undef MinGW32
02:46 kaeza under*
02:46 TheZenKitteh minGW32?
02:47 kaeza Minimalist GNU for Windows
02:47 kaeza is a sort of compilation of unix programs targeted at Windows platforms
02:48 * OldCoder is updating stuff again tonight
02:48 OldCoder Kacey, TheZenKitteh That is how I build Windows MT
02:48 TheZenKitteh lol forum polls added an extra ? at end of question
02:50 TheZenKitteh one of the main reasons I chose 7z is in case at some future time a windows installer comes into being
02:50 TheZenKitteh tar.bz2 still will need 7zip to extract on windows
02:50 Kacey i must go night all
02:50 TheZenKitteh lol didn't even give time for anyone to wish them goodnight
02:51 kaeza lol
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02:53 TheZenKitteh mint is so sluggish after using puppy for a few days
02:53 * NekoGloop puts kittens on all ten heads
02:53 NekoGloop kittens > puppies
02:53 * TheZenKitteh covers nekogloop in catnip
02:53 * NekoGloop om nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom
02:55 TheZenKitteh lol I might need to hold off on new minetest related projects for a short while.. I've managed to take on 10 total projects... not very active projects but still
02:55 kaeza hey NekoGloop :3
02:56 NekoGloop However stupid the name of the parody sounds, "Like an enderman" is actually a good mc parody song of gangnam style </incrediblyofftopicandinthewrongchanneltoolazytojoin#minecraft>
02:56 TheZenKitteh doesn't anyone find it odd how a song from a basically unknown person becomes most watched youtube video ever within half a year?
02:57 TheZenKitteh I watched part of it and found it to not be that worthy imo
02:57 TheZenKitteh I've seen better videos, heard better music
02:57 kaeza TheZenKitteh, apparently, the guy is very famous on his country (sorry, can't recall where he's from)
02:57 NekoGloop Well personally better than "Minecraft Style" by CaptainSparklez
02:57 NakedFury South Korea
02:57 NekoGloop I like the rest of sparklez's music videos, except that one.
02:58 kaeza thanks Fury
02:58 NakedFury he was a famouse pop singer or some other genre
02:58 NekoGloop s/Fury/Furry/
02:58 kaeza Naked Furry?
02:58 NakedFury gangnam style just went viral world wide
02:58 kaeza lol
02:58 NakedFury his dancing helped too
02:59 NekoGloop Who, the enderman.
03:00 NekoGloop kaeza: EsperNet #minecraft topic joke.
03:01 kaeza :?
03:01 NekoGloop For a while it contained the phrase "NakedFurry is best furry"
03:01 kaeza oh
03:01 * TheZenKitteh not fond of minecraft for many reasons that can be left unsaid
03:01 kaeza oh lol
03:02 NekoGloop TheZenKitteh: Only thing i hate is endermen and creepers.
03:02 NekoGloop Auto-griefing == dumbass idea
03:02 TheZenKitteh only things I liked were those nekogloop.. and weather
03:02 TheZenKitteh I wish minetest had rain
03:02 NakedFury java?
03:02 TheZenKitteh lol
03:03 TheZenKitteh however rain and mobs aren't worth the downsides of minecraft to me
03:03 NekoGloop Those would be?
03:03 kaeza TheZenKitteh, rain is possible, but too laggy to implement right now
03:04 kaeza I think sfan5 made one rain mod or something like that
03:04 NakedFury with time most of the MC stuff can be brought over but the engine needs to evolve a lot more
03:04 TheZenKitteh nekogloop.. slow, not enough to do, modding too "difficult" and many mods conflict without modding the mods.. and slow and did I mention slow?
03:04 kaeza modding the mods... modception?
03:04 NekoGloop TheZenKitteh: Get a real (not intel) graphics card
03:04 TheZenKitteh I have an nvidia card
03:04 TheZenKitteh just not newest
03:04 TheZenKitteh lol
03:04 NekoGloop Also ID resolver mod.
03:05 TheZenKitteh 256MB agp which still plays 99% of games I like
03:05 TheZenKitteh why should I get a new expensive card to play a crappy nonfree game?
03:05 TheZenKitteh lol
03:05 NekoGloop Then get a real driver
03:06 TheZenKitteh I can even play sims 3 with this card without issue
03:06 NekoGloop Oh wait, you have a shit os.
03:06 NekoGloop nvm.
03:06 TheZenKitteh on windows of course
03:06 TheZenKitteh I have windows and linux
03:06 TheZenKitteh minecrap slow on both
03:06 TheZenKitteh lol
03:06 NekoGloop Then get a real graphics card
03:06 TheZenKitteh I do have a real graphics card
03:06 TheZenKitteh and a real computer
03:06 TheZenKitteh and I play a real game called minetest
03:06 TheZenKitteh not written in java
03:06 TheZenKitteh lol
03:07 TheZenKitteh java has its uses.. but not for games
03:07 NekoGloop real games are written in assembly.
03:07 * TheZenKitteh has never spotted an assembly coded game
03:07 khonkhortisan goto? yuck
03:08 TheZenKitteh with the funds minecraft has they should have redone it in c++ by now
03:08 TheZenKitteh lazy fekers
03:08 TheZenKitteh lol
03:09 NakedFury thats too
03:09 Menche wasn't there a recent scare over a vulnerability in java?
03:09 TheZenKitteh yep menche
03:10 TheZenKitteh dept of homeland security sent out the alert
03:10 TheZenKitteh saying basically disable java till its updated
03:10 TheZenKitteh lol
03:10 Menche wonder if mojang noticed their servers go really quiet
03:11 Menche i bought minecraft, but since i discovered minetest, i don't play it much
03:11 NekoGloop No
03:11 NekoGloop They dont give a fuck if their servers go quiet
03:12 kaeza TheZenKitteh, line 49 of mtmodinstall.sh: change to ...installed at \"$INSTALLLOC\""
03:12 Menche i remember really early on in it's development, notch said he planned on opensourcing minecraft
03:12 Menche i think thats probably off now
03:12 NakedFury yes
03:12 TheZenKitteh when people stop buying minecraft they will open source it a couple years later
03:13 RealBadAngel they wont move because thanks to java they can easily migrate to other enviroments
03:13 RealBadAngel handhelds, pocket whatever, even microwave owens
03:13 Menche is the ios minecraft rewritten? i thought apple only allowed objective-c to be used
03:14 Menche lol, minecraft-running microwave
03:14 Menche touch-screen first-person games are annoying at best and unplayable at worst
03:15 Menche minecraft pe is hard to use
03:16 RealBadAngel its just another gadget
03:16 RealBadAngel nice but not useable
03:17 Menche don't care how much apple fanboys say tablets are the future, a tablet is *never* replacing my laptop
03:17 RealBadAngel future of techno morons
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03:17 TheZenKitteh menche it will once your laptop becomes too slow to use and laptops stop getting made
03:17 RealBadAngel not real users
03:17 NekoGloop Tablets *are* the future. Just not as they stand now.
03:18 jojoa1997 what can you do with server and admin privs and what is the difference?
03:18 RealBadAngel same as touch pad
03:18 Menche server priv allows /shutdown and /set
03:18 RealBadAngel worst invention in history of mankind
03:18 NekoGloop Pull-out keyboards similar to those seen on some phones. Those will be on tablets.
03:18 TheZenKitteh of course I still don't have a touchpad or tablet or any of that nonsense. not even a cell phone. don't want them either
03:18 jojoa1997 what is /set
03:19 jojoa1997 sttime?
03:19 Menche jojoa1997: it allows changing settings
03:19 jojoa1997 settime
03:19 jojoa1997 oh and what does admin priv do
03:19 kaeza jojoa1997, Read The Fine Manual
03:19 Menche there is an admin priv?
03:19 Menche gah, can't begin my messages with a /
03:19 RealBadAngel *Fuckin
03:19 jojoa1997 link please?
03:19 TheZenKitteh Read The Full Manual?
03:20 jojoa1997 or where could i find it
03:20 kaeza Menche, leave a space
03:20 RealBadAngel menche put space
03:20 kaeza /trollolo
03:20 * Menche just discovered how to do this
03:21 NekoGloop trawlawlawlawlawlawlawlawlawlawlawlawlawl
03:21 jojoa1997 where is the full manual
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03:21 * TheZenKitteh no idea
03:21 Menche is there one?
03:21 kaeza jojoa1997, RTFM and GIYF
03:21 Menche minetest.conf.example is useful
03:21 * TheZenKitteh doesn't even know what you all are talking aboot
03:21 jojoa1997 <kaeza> jojoa1997, Read The Fine Manual
03:22 kaeza jojoa1997, see what Menceh said
03:22 kaeza frack
03:22 jojoa1997 k
03:22 kaeza Menche*
03:22 kaeza gotta use tab completion more often...
03:23 * Menche just discovered tab completion
03:24 kaeza just a random question: what happened with markv? I haven't seen him lately
03:24 * NekoGloop just discovered fire
03:24 kaeza +b perhaps?
03:25 * NekoGloop just burned down his house
03:25 * Menche hacked real-life fire to burn dirt and stone
03:25 * NekoGloop just made this into Twitter
03:26 * Menche is addicted to 3rd-person posts
03:26 * kaeza made a house out of CONTENT_IGNORE
03:26 * NekoGloop made a house out of melon in mc
03:26 * khonkhortisan watches them use /me
03:26 * TheZenKitteh sits back and watches as well
03:27 NekoGloop CCCCCCCOMBOBREAKER!
03:27 * kaeza just posts a random /me
03:27 kaeza a fck
03:27 * TheZenKitteh /me /me /me /me /me /me /me
03:28 TheZenKitteh lol
03:28 * khonkhortisan says /you
03:28 kaeza /meme ?
03:28 * TheZenKitteh is guilty of having a rageface smilie pack.. just not installed currently
03:29 * kaeza requests a link
03:29 TheZenKitteh GIYF
03:29 TheZenKitteh lol
03:29 kaeza lol you're learning quickly
03:29 TheZenKitteh I did make a rage face pack for pidgin back when I couldn't find any rageface packs
03:29 TheZenKitteh now they are everywhere
03:30 kaeza !g rage smiley pack
03:30 kaeza oh...right
03:30 TheZenKitteh Flips a coin: TAILS
03:30 kaeza sorry, too lazy to Alt-Tab
03:30 * TheZenKitteh rolls 2 6-sided dice: 6 1
03:31 khonkhortisan 2d6: 2-12
03:31 khonkhortisan result 7
03:31 TheZenKitteh my messenger has coin flip, dice roll, 8ball and stargate 8 ball features lol
03:31 TheZenKitteh The Purple Stargate Ball says:  I got nothin'
03:31 TheZenKitteh lol
03:31 OldCoder O.K.
03:32 OldCoder So I update Technic... what else?
03:32 * OldCoder scrolls up
03:32 OldCoder Is that it for tonight?
03:32 * kaeza pokes OldCoder to update IRC as well :P
03:32 TheZenKitteh do you need a jail?
03:32 OldCoder Ah
03:32 TheZenKitteh lol
03:32 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, sure
03:32 OldCoder Lots of those
03:33 OldCoder Dogzilla131 has made a nice one
03:33 * TheZenKitteh notes the jail mod
03:33 TheZenKitteh useful for naughty players
03:34 TheZenKitteh I need to work on it so it will become better
03:34 TheZenKitteh but it's a learning project for me. pushing my skills in lua beyond what I know for the purpose of learning
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03:34 TheZenKitteh wb kaeza
03:35 kaeza thx :)
03:36 TheZenKitteh afk a sec
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03:39 OldCoder
03:40 OldCoder Folks, I am updating technic and irc mods
03:40 OldCoder What other changes do people wish tonight?
03:40 OldCoder VanessaE, are there any changes since last night?
03:40 TheZenKitteh back
03:41 OldCoder Gambit, Hi; I see you are still here
03:41 OldCoder jojoa1997, you wanted an update
03:41 OldCoder But I need the link and to ask about it
03:41 OldCoder Does anybody wish mods?
03:41 OldCoder <-- Ask for mods!
03:41 Gambit I want a minetest mod that adds dildos and unicorns.
03:41 Gambit Dinnerbone won't add them to Minecraft :(
03:42 OldCoder Hmm?
03:42 OldCoder That is...
03:42 TheZenKitteh lol @ gambit
03:42 jojoa1997 https://github.com/jojoa1997/spleef_arena
03:42 OldCoder an odd combination
03:42 OldCoder jojoa1997, is it tested?
03:42 TheZenKitteh do it gambit
03:42 jojoa1997 upadte spleef arena
03:42 jojoa1997 yes
03:42 OldCoder jojoa1997, k that too then
03:42 Gambit TheZenKitteh: But OldCoder said to ask for mods.
03:42 Gambit :<
03:42 jojoa1997 i just changed the speeda
03:42 OldCoder Gambit, you complain about nonsense in *your* channel
03:42 TheZenKitteh what would such a mod even be named gambit?
03:42 OldCoder Hmpph
03:42 OldCoder Gambit
03:42 OldCoder Of course
03:42 OldCoder It would be his signature mod
03:43 jojoa1997 https://github.com/jojoa1997/peaceful_npc
03:43 Gambit (One time someone hired a twitter botnet to ping Minecraft developers with thousands of requests for unicorns and dildos)
03:43 OldCoder jojoa1997, that one
03:43 jojoa1997 i fixed a texture naming error
03:43 OldCoder jojoa1997, is not quite working
03:43 OldCoder They requested it be removed
03:43 jojoa1997 what is
03:43 OldCoder jojoa1997, Peaceful NPC
03:43 jojoa1997 npcs
03:43 jojoa1997 ok that is fine
03:43 OldCoder please talk to Oblivion and Mark if you can find them
03:43 OldCoder I will update Spleef Arena now
03:43 jojoa1997 one sec
03:44 jojoa1997 https://github.com/jojoa1997/special_tools
03:44 jojoa1997 it adds super fast leaf cutters
03:44 jojoa1997 it works and is on a couple of servers
03:44 TheZenKitteh lol spleef sounds too close to another word that's dirty for my liking
03:44 * jojoa1997 covers ears
03:46 kaeza how Windows works: http://www.mrlovenstein.com/comic/364
03:46 OldCoder I am updating technic, spleef-arena, and irc
03:47 OldCoder Mods mods come and get yer mods
03:47 OldCoder Or other changes
03:47 OldCoder Last Call For Mods!
03:47 kaeza heh
03:47 jojoa1997 gtg cya
03:47 OldCoder etc.
03:47 OldCoder VanessaE, you AFK?
03:47 OldCoder jojoa1997, cu
03:47 jojoa1997 are you gonna add special_tools
03:47 kaeza Call of Moddy: Minetest Warfare
03:47 OldCoder jojoa1997, link?
03:48 jojoa1997 https://github.com/jojoa1997/special_tools
03:48 TheZenKitteh oh why not.. how about industrial oldcoder?
03:48 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, Link?
03:49 TheZenKitteh https://github.com/TheZenKitteh/minetest-industrial
03:49 kaeza babyface also wanted industrial
03:49 OldCoder Wait
03:49 OldCoder jojoa left...
03:49 OldCoder I can't add special tools without the thread
03:49 OldCoder and more info
03:49 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, hold on
03:49 TheZenKitteh k
03:49 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, where is the thread?
03:49 OldCoder for Industrial?
03:50 TheZenKitteh http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=692
03:50 OldCoder ty
03:50 VanessaE OldCoder: I am here, just busy.  What's up?
03:50 OldCoder R
03:50 OldCoder VanessaE, quick question only
03:50 OldCoder Any changes since last night?
03:50 VanessaE nope
03:50 OldCoder ty!
03:50 VanessaE nothing that needs to be pushed right away anyways
03:50 kaeza great, we bitched to Dogzilla131 to not add pokemons and jojoa adds them right away
03:51 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, are you Raphael?
03:51 TheZenKitteh oldcoder yep
03:51 OldCoder figured
03:51 OldCoder Now...
03:51 OldCoder What sorts of depends are there? And is this high CPU? Finally: stable or crashy?
03:52 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, ^
03:52 TheZenKitteh industrial has no dependencies and no known issues that im aware of
03:52 OldCoder Really?
03:52 OldCoder ??
03:52 OldCoder Sounds good
03:52 TheZenKitteh I used to depend on another mod but I removed that dependency
03:52 OldCoder How is it on CPU?
03:53 TheZenKitteh it*
03:53 TheZenKitteh it just adds new themed blocks, safes filing cabinets and crates
03:53 OldCoder High CPU? Low CPU?
03:53 OldCoder So pretty safe everywhere?
03:53 TheZenKitteh I would suspect low cpu
03:53 OldCoder So pretty safe everywhere?
03:53 TheZenKitteh I've never personally had any issues with that mod and nobody has complained about it
03:53 TheZenKitteh lol
03:53 OldCoder Does not cause craft conflicts?
03:53 OldCoder LOL?
03:54 OldCoder Hell try running 19 worlds
03:54 OldCoder You'll learn :P
03:54 TheZenKitteh craft conflicts no idea. its been around awhile
03:54 OldCoder Does not cause craft conflicts?
03:54 OldCoder Then
03:54 OldCoder We added asphalt
03:54 TheZenKitteh when it was first made it had no conflicts
03:54 OldCoder We shall industrialize
03:54 OldCoder !
03:54 TheZenKitteh since then its possible someone made a mod that used one of my crafting recipes
03:54 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, If I add this everywhere
03:54 OldCoder Will you test it out in a couple of worlds?
03:54 OldCoder And watch for people complaining
03:54 TheZenKitteh sure
03:55 OldCoder About broken recipes n such?
03:55 OldCoder k
03:55 OldCoder You are promising
03:55 TheZenKitteh if anyone complains direct them to that forum post so I will know and can fix
03:55 OldCoder I need the help
03:55 OldCoder *crinkle*
03:55 OldCoder ^ sound effect
03:55 TheZenKitteh of course I need urls and ports to servers you wantme to play with
03:55 * OldCoder opens the shrinkwrap
03:55 OldCoder http://minetest.org/
03:55 OldCoder Take your pick!
03:55 OldCoder Hang on... adding mod
03:56 TheZenKitteh do I need a special client?
03:56 OldCoder Nope
03:56 OldCoder 0.4.4
03:56 OldCoder Mine is recommended
03:56 OldCoder for Windows
03:56 kaeza TheZenKitteh, 30004 :3
03:56 * OldCoder adds Raphael to the authors list
03:57 OldCoder Looks good...
03:57 TheZenKitteh there needs to be work done to the multiplayer tab so one can have multiple servers bookmarked
03:57 TheZenKitteh some servers (not yours exactly) have some odd urls or ports lol
03:57 * OldCoder shrugs
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04:00 jojoa1997 OldCoder what was updated/added
04:01 OldCoder jojoa1997, preparing now
04:01 OldCoder jojoa1997, I can't do special tools
04:01 OldCoder without more infor
04:01 OldCoder without more info *
04:01 OldCoder need thread or details
04:01 OldCoder Got more info?
04:01 jojoa1997 giving thread
04:01 jojoa1997 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4444
04:01 kaeza TheZenKitteh, problems in octuteam world?
04:02 OldCoder R
04:02 TheZenKitteh kaeza: ?
04:02 jojoa1997 for now there is only one tool but i plan on adding more
04:02 Menche grr, forum polls make refreshing really hard
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04:02 OldCoder jojoa1997, where has this been posted?
04:02 OldCoder Oblivion1500, have you tried special tools?
04:03 jojoa1997 what do you mean where
04:03 OldCoder Has it been tested?
04:03 jojoa1997 yes it has
04:03 Oblivion1500 special tools?
04:03 OldCoder nvm you will see it
04:03 Oblivion1500 sorry i was having internet issues
04:03 OldCoder jojoa1997, I am going to call it jojoatools
04:03 Oblivion1500 its in the mod list
04:04 jojoa1997 no that wont work with the code
04:04 jojoa1997 why rename it?
04:05 Oblivion1500 it makes it easy for him to stay organized
04:05 Menche load in vim -> %s/oldname/newname/g -> changed to the new name
04:05 OldCoder jojoa1997, It is too narrow a mod for such a broad name
04:05 OldCoder Changes done!
04:05 OldCoder Last Chance!
04:05 jojoa1997 ok but it will have more later
04:05 Oblivion1500 nothing i can think of but is there a link for the new add?
04:06 OldCoder Worlds going down!
04:06 OldCoder Oblivion1500, ?
04:06 OldCoder Oblivion1500, what?
04:06 jojoa1997 and you can change name
04:06 Oblivion1500 oh found it
04:06 * TheZenKitteh roars klaxxon
04:07 Oblivion1500 well there is no readme... im just wondering what the mod is going to do... is there a link to the forum for special tools?
04:07 OldCoder Apparently not
04:07 OldCoder Looks like
04:07 OldCoder Wait...
04:07 * jojoa1997 turns TheZenKitteh into a dog
04:07 OldCoder http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4444
04:08 jojoa1997 it is very simple
04:08 Oblivion1500 thanks
04:08 jojoa1997 yeah that is it
04:08 TheVoidedWarrant arg
04:08 * jojoa1997 gets a new warrenty
04:09 Oblivion1500 lol thats all the mod does.. cuts leaves.. my pic axe does that
04:09 OldCoder Let him learn
04:09 OldCoder It is a teaching aid
04:09 jojoa1997 yeah but this does it super fast with a cool texture
04:09 Oblivion1500 oh i see
04:10 OldCoder Oblivion1500, tell me if it works
04:10 jojoa1997 TheZenKitteh HA!! i win
04:10 OldCoder It will just be in Mark Twain World first
04:10 Oblivion1500 ok will do
04:10 jojoa1997 mark twain up?
04:10 Oblivion1500 no
04:10 OldCoder Rebuilding worlds now
04:11 Oblivion1500 he will let us know, he always does
04:11 jojoa1997 also Oblivion1500 are you an admin
04:11 Oblivion1500 no
04:11 OldCoder If not now, probably soon
04:11 OldCoder I have not seen Mark around enough
04:11 jojoa1997 good
04:11 jojoa1997 He never is
04:11 OldCoder I hope he comes by occasionally
04:11 OldCoder When I get to know people, I miss them
04:12 jojoa1997 OldCoder do you want me to give him privs
04:12 Oblivion1500 human nature
04:12 OldCoder jojoa1997, yes
04:12 jojoa1997 done deal
04:12 Oblivion1500 sweet
04:12 jojoa1997 Oblivion1500 welcome to the crew :-)
04:12 * jojoa1997 shakes Oblivion1500's hand
04:13 Oblivion1500 :) thanks, i have been helping oldcoder with testing for a little bit now.
04:13 Oblivion1500 i think the site will be awesome once minetest is in beta
04:13 jojoa1997 wait what is it in now?
04:14 Oblivion1500 i thought it was in alpha
04:14 Oblivion1500 untill 1.0 if im not mistaken
04:14 OldCoder jojoa1997, I thought you said you tested the mode
04:14 OldCoder * mod
04:14 jojoa1997 spider webs http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/12/pictures/111202-best-news-pictures-national-geographic-top-ten/#/pakistan-floods-drive-spiders-into-trees-adult_34026_600x450.jpg
04:14 OldCoder 04:14:25: ERROR[main]: ...etest/games/metropolis_game/mods/jojoatools/init.lua:
04:14 OldCoder 'register_alaise' (a nil value)
04:14 OldCoder jojoa1997, that does not look very tested to me
04:15 OldCoder In fact
04:15 jojoa1997 i did i was talking about minetest itself
04:15 OldCoder Not tested AT ALL D:
04:15 OldCoder I wanted to know if you had tested the mod
04:15 OldCoder Please do NOT
04:15 jojoa1997 but i did
04:15 OldCoder submit them again until testing
04:15 OldCoder Oh?
04:15 OldCoder 'register_alaise' (a nil value)
04:15 OldCoder Explain that then
04:15 jojoa1997 wtf i changed that
04:15 Menche how did you even get it loaded during testing?
04:15 kaeza jojoa1997, may I get a link to test here?
04:16 Oblivion1500 did you push the commit?
04:16 Menche thats what i was about to say
04:16 jojoa1997 minetest.register_alias("shears", "special_tools:shears")
04:17 jojoa1997 did you use github
04:17 OldCoder Damn
04:17 OldCoder When this happens
04:17 OldCoder things are a mess
04:17 OldCoder cleaning up now
04:17 jojoa1997 do i have a download link on the topic
04:18 kaeza jojoa1997, seems you should update your package
04:18 kaeza ...
04:18 kaeza that sounded nasty somehow lol
04:18 jojoa1997 there it uses only github now
04:19 jojoa1997 look at this sinkhole http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/12/pictures/111202-best-news-pictures-national-geographic-top-ten/#/giant-sinkhole-guatemala-city-why_21263_600x450.jpg
04:20 kaeza loos like someone divided by zero
04:20 * jojoa1997 awwwww http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/02/pictures/120215-smallest-chameleons-new-species-madagascar-science/
04:20 Menche make a mod that randomly creates huge holes in the landscape
04:20 OldCoder Restoring worlds
04:20 jojoa1997 not me X|
04:20 kaeza Menche, ask kizeren about his experience with nether mod ;)
04:21 Menche or have a moderator command /smite that opens a hole under the targetted player
04:21 jojoa1997 kizeren could you tell us
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04:21 TheZenKitteh lol mod idea: a mod that when a player types in chat /0 it creates a 100 block deep hole under them that is about 10 blocks wide.. of course totally useless unless im missing something
04:21 kaeza Menche, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_4262554471.jpg
04:21 jojoa1997 kizeren you here?
04:22 kaeza jojoa1997, he's asleep
04:22 Menche kaeza, wow. once I had a huge hole in a server due to map corruption
04:23 Menche it was weird, the bottom wasn't entirely rendered, and there was a lava lake with a sandy beach at the bottom
04:23 kaeza Menche, that has happened several times on Shaun/kizeren's server
04:23 jojoa1997 gtg parents say bedtime Oblivion1500 i will give you privs tomorrow unless OldCoder can
04:23 OldCoder jojoa1997, I am removing the mod
04:24 OldCoder jojoa1997, test it again sometime
04:24 jojoa1997 ok why
04:24 OldCoder good night
04:24 TheZenKitteh night jojoa1997
04:24 OldCoder It is broken
04:24 OldCoder and has broken all my worlds
04:24 OldCoder But sleep well
04:24 Oblivion1500 bye
04:24 OldCoder Oblivion1500, you will be opped shortly
04:24 kaeza Menche, the funny thing is the water does not flow
04:24 jojoa1997 good night yall and sorry i will try to see what is wrong tomorrow
04:24 kaeza night
04:24 Oblivion1500 ok, thanks OldCoder and Jojoa
04:25 TheZenKitteh oddly whenever I see big deep random holes that fus ro dah thing pops into my head
04:25 Menche kaeza, yeah thats weird. it didn't flow when it happened on mine, but mine was different; the walls and floor were'nt rendered
04:26 kaeza Menche, in this case, I commited the stupidity of placing a node near the how
04:26 kaeza huge mass of water flows to minus infinity
04:26 kaeza server killed
04:26 kaeza lol
04:26 TheZenKitteh /0
04:27 kaeza s/how/hole/
04:27 * TheZenKitteh getting sleepy
04:27 Menche iirc, falling sand/gravel disappeared when falling into the hole on my server
04:27 * kaeza will steal TheZenKitteh's idea and code a divide_by_zero mod
04:28 TheZenKitteh lol go for it kaeza.. just be sure to offer disclaimer since a greifer could have a lot of fun with such a mod
04:28 OldCoder NEWS Worlds are UP
04:28 TheZenKitteh yay
04:28 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, Industrial should be in most of them
04:28 kaeza nukes+divzero == griefer's paradise
04:29 OldCoder Oblivion1500, opping youo
04:29 TheZenKitteh im trying to connect to 30004
04:29 OldCoder *u
04:29 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, what OS are you?
04:29 Oblivion1500 sweet
04:29 TheZenKitteh mint 13
04:29 TheZenKitteh before worlds went down I got stuck at loading media
04:29 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, k let us know
04:29 TheZenKitteh got stuck at 0%
04:29 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, restart
04:29 TheZenKitteh I just fired it up and its still apparently stuck on 0% media
04:30 TheZenKitteh kaeza said to wait since a lot of mods
04:30 Oblivion1500 im using mint 14 and its fine for me
04:30 TheZenKitteh does the client have to be 0.4.4 stable or will a dev work?
04:30 Oblivion1500 it would tell you usually wouldent it
04:30 kaeza Menche, falling nodes (entities) disappear if the player is not close to them, but in your case, looks like a portal to hell lol
04:31 TheZenKitteh well I recall seeing it said servers running minebest so was curious if there would be an issue connecting from a dev minetest
04:31 TheZenKitteh hmm still on 0%
04:31 Oblivion1500 uhm,,, my minetest just closed itself...
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04:32 TheZenKitteh gonna try another server to see if its just that one
04:32 Oblivion1500 will try again.. might just have been a bug
04:34 TheZenKitteh do do do
04:34 TheZenKitteh hmm seems 30003 is same
04:34 * kaeza tosses a random screenshot at the channel https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_3930614684.jpg
04:34 TheZenKitteh I know my net is fast enough
04:35 TheZenKitteh ill give it a min to see if it connects
04:36 TheZenKitteh I don't think this is gonna work
04:36 TheZenKitteh lol
04:36 TheZenKitteh o wait
04:36 TheZenKitteh I see movement
04:36 TheZenKitteh lol
04:37 kaeza suddenly... crashes
04:37 kaeza lol
04:37 TheZenKitteh that was a long wait to start downloading
04:37 kaeza TheZenKitteh, the good thing is that you need to do that only once ^_^
04:37 TheZenKitteh well this I think is 30003
04:37 TheZenKitteh about 50% now
04:38 TheZenKitteh kaeza I presume you use 30004?
04:38 kaeza yes
04:38 kaeza (I'm admin there)
04:38 TheZenKitteh lol
04:39 TheZenKitteh god mode
04:39 kaeza yup ^_^
04:39 TheZenKitteh k 30003 cache done.. now onto 30004
04:39 kaeza but to grant interact I need your email address, street address, driver's license, social security number, ...
04:40 TheZenKitteh lol fek that
04:40 OldCoder ?
04:40 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, where would you like interact?
04:40 TheZenKitteh btw im curious why are there so many servers?
04:40 kaeza lol just kidding
04:40 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, simple...
04:40 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, two reasons:
04:40 TheZenKitteh well if I can connect.. first off 30004 since kaeza plays on there. id rather play on a server I know some people
04:41 kaeza I trust you will not grief there :P
04:41 OldCoder 1. There are a few worlds large enough or unique enough they deserved servers. 2. People kept demanding their own. "I am special! Give me servers! I am different!" I am mostly going to limit to #1 for now
04:41 TheZenKitteh im waiting on the server to make up its mind if it will send me the media
04:41 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, let us know when you are in
04:42 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, for example Skyblock is fun and different
04:42 kaeza TheZenKitteh, I just gave you interact
04:42 kaeza have fun
04:42 * TheZenKitteh pokes server for signs of life..
04:42 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, and I rescued Calinou World when its server died
04:42 OldCoder We nearly lost the world
04:42 TheZenKitteh btw RAPHAEL is the nick on there
04:42 kaeza (if you ever connect lol)
04:42 OldCoder thexyz helped us fix the database
04:42 TheZenKitteh there it goes
04:42 TheZenKitteh 50% and counting
04:43 TheZenKitteh 70%
04:43 TheZenKitteh 80%
04:43 TheZenKitteh lol
04:43 OldCoder Good
04:43 TheZenKitteh I guess the server decided to send me the media
04:46 Oblivion1500 hmm sence using linux i have been getting like 10-20 maybe 30 fps... whats up with that?
04:48 TheZenKitteh graphics drivers?
04:48 TheZenKitteh I get more fps on linux than windows generally
04:51 Oblivion1500 im thinking it may have something to do with my wireless driver.. i seem to have crappy speeds... but it could also be the new modem they put in, it fregging sucks.. they try to fix one problem by giving me a modem that cant handle the speeds that we should be getting
04:51 Oblivion1500 shitty isp
04:52 Oblivion1500 i have had them out multipul times to fix a timeout error and they deside that giving me a modem that doesent use as much resorces is going to help
04:52 Oblivion1500 well it did, i dont time out, i just go SSssssllllooooowww now
04:53 Oblivion1500 i should just call them out every day for dinner or something..
04:53 Oblivion1500 have the table set, and when they come over just sit them down and eat and talk about what the problem is and send him on his way only telling him im going to have another sent the next day
04:54 TheZenKitteh cable dsl or what?
04:54 Oblivion1500 uhm i beleave dsl hold on
04:54 Oblivion1500 its roadrunner lightning
04:55 Oblivion1500 provided by brighthouse
04:55 TheZenKitteh I know before I had cable net and had issues with timeouts and super slow speeds.. changed MTU in router to 1400 and it fixed it
04:55 Oblivion1500 im supposed to get 40mb download and 9 upload
04:55 Oblivion1500 i get 5 download and 5 upload
04:55 Oblivion1500 yea, you see the problem
04:55 Oblivion1500 mtu?
04:56 TheZenKitteh yea the default tends to be 1500 if I remember right but most cable services do better with a setting of 1400
04:56 Menche i thought larger mtu sizes were more efficient
04:57 Oblivion1500 where might i find this opption?
04:57 TheZenKitteh not for cable net in this area
04:57 TheZenKitteh router admin
04:57 TheZenKitteh the isp told me to do that here after I had tried everything I know and everything server levels of techs knew
04:58 TheZenKitteh top tech said change it to 1400 and bam no issues for 2 years
04:58 TheZenKitteh lol
04:58 Oblivion1500 wow i cant find the option...
04:58 TheZenKitteh each router different can't help there
04:59 Oblivion1500 yea i know.. but it should be somewhere, im looking everywhere..
04:59 TheZenKitteh on my router at the time the MTU setting was on front admin page
05:00 Oblivion1500 really
05:00 Oblivion1500 hmm,,, my other modem had more options than this one has.. maybe it doesent have that option?
05:01 TheZenKitteh router?
05:01 TheZenKitteh I've never seen one without an MTU setting but if you can't find it just next time you talk to the techs ask them about it
05:02 Oblivion1500 no modem
05:03 Oblivion1500 i do recall having something like that in my last modem.. im still doing some looking around and changing settings anyway.. maybe that will help me
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05:13 Oblivion1500 ok well it looks like i have to make sure all my comps have firewalls because once i disable the firewall on my modem speeds sky rocket
05:13 TheZenKitteh lol
05:15 Oblivion1500 again, stupid isp
05:16 Oblivion1500 well its time for me to see what that did to minetest
05:22 Oblivion1500 nope its still the same,,
05:22 Oblivion1500 let me download another, that might be the problem...
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05:24 TheZenKitteh .. hello and bye celeron55
05:24 TheZenKitteh lol
05:28 Oblivion1500 lol
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05:36 Oblivion1500 i still need to figure out why im downloading minetest at 100 kb a sec...
05:37 NakedFury you got some freeloader on your internet?
05:37 NakedFury downloading torrentz
05:37 Oblivion1500 no,
05:38 Oblivion1500 just trying to play minetest
05:38 NakedFury I just helped a friend setup passwords for internet and it got faster so he probably had some neighboor using his
05:40 Oblivion1500 no, my pass is set up, my isp is crap, i have had them out multiple times to fix internet loss issues
05:57 Oblivion1500 hey, does anyone know what ip6-allnodes is?
05:58 NakedFury no
05:59 Oblivion1500 well im runing etherape and it seems to be sending constant data back and forth to another thing on my network...
06:00 Oblivion1500 something with a weard mac address, im not to sure if that is my printer though
06:00 NakedFury kill it
06:00 Oblivion1500 how do i kill it?
06:00 NakedFury is there no way to stop its connecting except taking out the cable?
06:01 Oblivion1500 uhm,? i cant get to my printer at the moment
06:02 Oblivion1500 the protocal its using is ICPMPV6
06:03 NakedFury Internet Control Message Protocol version 6 (ICMPv6)
06:04 Oblivion1500 hmm, well its not connected to my computer
06:04 Oblivion1500 it just seems as if its sending constant data back and forth
06:04 Oblivion1500 and do you know what mcast.net is?
06:05 Oblivion1500 that may be my printer, because it says hp,
06:08 NakedFury I just google all that
06:08 NakedFury but something is weird with your connection if you arent getting the speed you pay for
06:09 Oblivion1500 well yea
06:10 Oblivion1500 hold on im going to kill most of what would be using my internet and see what happens
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06:18 * TheZenKitteh wonders if oblivion1500 is using windows
06:19 VanessaE jeez my internet is acting up today...  Oblivion1500 must have traded my modem for his while I wasn't looking.
06:19 TheZenKitteh night everyone
06:19 VanessaE night
06:20 kaeza VanessaE, I know that feel sis
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06:20 VanessaE Oblivion1500: I want my modem back!  you gave me your shitty ISP problem :)
06:21 Oblivion1500 lol you can have this junk
06:21 kaeza imagine you are in a creepy dark cave, and all of a sudden, you find this when you turn around the corner: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_1103833664.jpg
06:21 Oblivion1500 i just want to know what this ip6-allnodes crap is
06:22 VanessaE no clue.
06:22 VanessaE kaeza: you are likely to be eaten by a grue.
06:22 Oblivion1500 its constantly sending a signal to this fe23::43d:dccc:frs2:4r84
06:22 kaeza hah
06:23 kaeza hmm...talinite...
06:29 Oblivion1500 that is not the same mac address as the one thats using my network. so yea if your waisting your time you should stop
06:30 Oblivion1500 also it seems to be isolated
06:30 Oblivion1500 like doesent do anything but talk to ip6-allnodes
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06:46 VanessaE stupid busted-ass ISP
06:58 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/my_world_map.png
06:58 VanessaE if anyone cares, I just made a kick-ass colors.txt file :-)
06:58 VanessaE ^^^^ that is the result
06:59 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/colors.txt
06:59 VanessaE there's the file.
07:02 Oblivion1500 lol changed my dns's and everything seems great
07:03 Oblivion1500 omg! you need to give that script to oldcoder
07:04 Oblivion1500 both of them
07:05 Oblivion1500 oh wait, that isjust telling where everything is,...
07:05 Oblivion1500 you should make a script that pulls all the items and puts them on a txt file
07:05 OldCoder Hmm?
07:05 Oblivion1500 oh, your there
07:05 OldCoder VanessaE, what should I do with that?
07:05 OldCoder Oblivion1500, of course
07:05 VanessaE Oblivion1500: actually, I already filled in pretty much everything worth using :-)
07:06 VanessaE OldCoder: if you want to use it, put it in minetestfolder/util in place of the old colors.txt and then run minetestmapper as usual.
07:06 OldCoder VanessaE, I am not familiar with minetestmapper
07:06 OldCoder Comment please
07:07 OldCoder How is that run?
07:07 VanessaE OldCoder: it's a program that comes with the engine that draws map overview images.
07:07 OldCoder Where is this program?
07:07 VanessaE util/minetestmapper.py --drawscale -i ~/.minetest/worlds/My_World_server/ -o ~/Digital-Audio-Concepts-Website/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/my_world_map.png
07:07 OldCoder Reviewing
07:07 VanessaE in the minetest sources, /util directory.
07:07 OldCoder Ah
07:07 OldCoder That one
07:07 OldCoder It does not work for me
07:07 OldCoder Python problem
07:08 OldCoder But I will fix it sometime
07:08 OldCoder Thank you for the file
07:09 OldCoder Hmm
07:09 OldCoder I'll trying reinstalling PIL when I have a chance
07:19 kaeza ADVERTISING IN FORUM??? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4460
07:19 kaeza VanessaE, ^
07:20 VanessaE deleted and banned.
07:21 kaeza nice ^_^
07:21 kaeza stupid spammers
07:21 kaeza thanks V ^_^
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07:32 Oblivion1500 hey oldcoder
07:32 OldCoder Yep
07:33 Oblivion1500 did you recently install jungle trees?
07:33 OldCoder Nope
07:33 OldCoder But
07:33 OldCoder I *did* install Plant Life
07:33 OldCoder and
07:33 OldCoder moretrees
07:33 VanessaE OldCoder: moretrees
07:33 OldCoder Yep
07:33 OldCoder I figured
07:33 VanessaE (provides jungle trees)
07:33 Oblivion1500 moretrees....
07:33 Oblivion1500 sssssssssllllllllloooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww
07:33 VanessaE Oblivion1500:  don't like it?
07:33 Oblivion1500 they look cool and all but my fps is like 10 around them
07:34 VanessaE sowwy
07:34 Oblivion1500 and there big and in my front yard
07:34 Oblivion1500 you know how hard it is to take one of these down?
07:34 Oblivion1500 like an hour
07:35 Oblivion1500 i ment how long... yea its late for me
07:35 VanessaE Oblivion1500: I can fell a jungle tree in about 5 minutes with an admin pick. :-)
07:35 Oblivion1500 what is the item:name for that
07:35 VanessaE maptools:admin_pick I think
07:37 Oblivion1500 thats not it...
07:37 kaeza pick_admin?
07:37 VanessaE maptools:pick_admin
07:37 VanessaE yep kaeza's got it.
07:38 kaeza pick_wood, pick_stone, ..., so it should be pick_admin I guess
07:38 Oblivion1500 cannot give unknown item
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07:39 VanessaE guess you don't have maptools then
07:39 VanessaE got gloopblocks?
07:39 kaeza Oblivion1500, grep 'register_tool' maptools/init.lua
07:39 VanessaE gloopblocks:sword_evil is almost as fast (:also pick_, :axe_, and :shovel_)
07:40 Oblivion1500 one sec
07:41 VanessaE or the toolsizes mod has some fast tools also.
07:41 VanessaE large mese pick for example
07:43 Oblivion1500 hmm no toolsizes, im on oldcoders server the marktwane one
07:44 VanessaE hm
07:44 VanessaE what about mese starter kit?  got that?
07:44 VanessaE it has a mese axe which should be fairly quick
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07:45 VanessaE greetz, taoki
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08:16 Oblivion1500 i think im just going to run around and plant these jungle trees round peoples houses, i think thats what happened to me
08:16 VanessaE now now
08:17 Oblivion1500 if you plant them in a line will they grow right next to eachother?
08:17 VanessaE they grow naturally near water, but limited to biome-like zones
08:17 VanessaE I think so
08:18 Oblivion1500 biome? whats that?
08:18 VanessaE but don't go griefing like that
08:18 VanessaE a biome is a software-defined area of a map with some particular property
08:18 Oblivion1500 i was actually thinking about making a wall of them around my house
08:19 VanessaE in this case, it's a sort of unnamed jungle-ish biome :-)
08:19 Oblivion1500 so they grow aroud houses?
08:19 VanessaE no
08:19 VanessaE if planted they will
08:19 VanessaE but they spawn near water and only if the water is in the right biome area
08:19 Oblivion1500 ohh i see
08:20 VanessaE and only then if the elevation is between -5 and +10m
08:20 Oblivion1500 i guess my house was the right area for all these damn trees to pop up
08:22 VanessaE yup
08:22 VanessaE my brick house on 30017 was also
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08:24 Oblivion1500 omg i just flew up and there are so many of these things.. i dont know what to do
08:27 VanessaE sowwy :-)
08:28 Oblivion1500 lol its ok, what can i do with conifer trunks?
08:28 VanessaE nothing as yet, except build with them
08:28 VanessaE there's some crafting recipes but I think I still need to activate the
08:28 VanessaE them*
08:28 Oblivion1500 bah,
08:29 OldCoder VanessaE, Is moretrees working in my worlds?
08:30 VanessaE OldCoder: apparently it is ^^^ :-)
08:30 VanessaE but lemme go look around
08:30 OldCoder I see
08:30 Oblivion1500 its working on marks world, they popedup everywhere on my land haha
08:32 VanessaE yep, they seem to be working on 30017.
08:33 VanessaE OldCoder: your map loader is as slow as mine :(
08:33 VanessaE (at least I know it ain't just me)
08:33 OldCoder All right
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09:02 kaeza good night everyone! off to bed :)
09:02 VanessaE night
09:03 Oblivion1500 good night!
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09:54 Oblivion1500 so,,,, how is everyone?
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10:06 Jordach oh fuck, its -7'c  here
10:06 Jordach hello OldCoder
10:10 Jordach bbbbrrrrrr
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10:59 celeron55_ Jordach: it's -21°C in here
10:59 celeron55_ nice and refreshing
10:59 Jordach :O
11:01 Jordach even the 2.6Kw Quartz heater cant do shit
11:01 Jordach (then again, there is little to NO insulation in this 1920's house)
11:05 celeron55_ all houses in finland have plenty of insulation and heating capability 8)
11:05 celeron55_ regular inside temperature in here
11:05 Jordach aw man
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11:06 celeron55_ on the other hand, housing does cost a lot in here
11:07 * celeron55_ sees he just used "in here" enough times for the rest of the week
11:07 Jordach celeron55_, its worse over here
11:07 * Jordach isnt shitting you
11:07 celeron55_ give an example
11:08 Jordach lemme pull up some links
11:11 Jordach celeron55_, pm
11:12 Jordach i dont know the exact euro (conv.) so
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11:45 arvis Where is zeg9? :(
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11:50 Jordach arvis, somewhere on planet earth in the solar system in the universe
11:51 arvis You forget the Milk Way. Jordach
11:51 Jordach meh
11:51 BillyBlueHat And the local group
11:51 Jordach why bother with details that NO ONE knows of?
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11:59 jojoa1997 Hi who is here
12:00 Jordach not many people
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12:22 arvis Any administrator there for zeg9 map?
12:24 Jordach nope.
12:24 Jordach john_minetest is
12:24 Jordach but hes no here
12:49 iqualfragile ima here
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14:02 thexyz /quit
14:02 thexyz oops
14:09 Jordach lol
14:16 RealBadAngel hi all
14:16 RealBadAngel thexyz, is the seed stuff for trees really needed?
14:17 thexyz sure it is
14:17 RealBadAngel so ok, i will make it
14:17 thexyz because maps with equal seed should be equal
14:17 thexyz k
14:18 RealBadAngel sorry for my attidute before, but i was tryin to make them as random as possible
14:19 thexyz that thing does not make them less random
14:20 RealBadAngel yeah, i was thinkin bout it and now i agree. but at the start it affected me as red colour for the bull
14:21 RealBadAngel sorry for that
14:21 thexyz np
14:21 Jordach hey RealBadAngel rather than work on your trees
14:22 RealBadAngel im pretty close to finish the tree framework
14:22 Jordach make a node group to handle is_conntected = so things like mesecons are updated by the engine and not lua
14:22 Jordach (should only work within the mod_
14:23 RealBadAngel technic needs lotsa updates
14:23 RealBadAngel i will make them as soon as im done with trees
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14:23 RealBadAngel need to finish textures, post 2 patches against treegen
14:24 RealBadAngel polish everythin, then on weekend i plan to start again with technic
14:25 RealBadAngel thexyz, 2 patches because one is ready, it adds new features
14:25 RealBadAngel second will be seed stuff, to wrote
14:27 RealBadAngel btw, i posted that already but not everyone has seen it propably, so:
14:27 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/morewood.png
14:27 jojoa1997 wow what are the types of trees
14:29 Jordach RealBadAngel, and FINALLY implement High Voltage
14:29 Jordach (thats annoyed me for weeks)
14:29 jojoa1997 RealBadAngel have you seen avatar the blur people on Pandora
14:29 Jordach "blur" ??
14:29 RealBadAngel "indians"
14:30 jojoa1997 blue
14:30 RealBadAngel blue ones ;)
14:30 jojoa1997 yeah make a home tree
14:30 RealBadAngel i can, but that definitely will be a mod
14:31 RealBadAngel about screenshot, from left to right:
14:32 jojoa1997 vanessae wont add it to here moretrees but i would really like to habe it
14:32 jojoa1997 avatar-anywhere, like the giant tree from avatar, one per world, 100 blocks tall*30 blocks wide
14:32 RealBadAngel default (beech), oak, sequoia, palm, birch, spruce, pine, willow\
14:32 jojoa1997 and only one poured would
14:32 jojoa1997 one per world
14:33 jojoa1997 could you add it to your mood or make a new one
14:33 RealBadAngel so we will make worldtree mod
14:33 RealBadAngel no problemo
14:34 jojoa1997 worldtree-the avatar home tree
14:35 RealBadAngel big enough to built city in it
14:35 RealBadAngel i like the idea
14:35 jojoa1997 have you seen the movie
14:35 RealBadAngel many times
14:35 jojoa1997 make and outer ring and a inner ring
14:35 jojoa1997 innner ring=20 blocks
14:36 RealBadAngel got the 40gb version on my hd
14:36 jojoa1997 outer+inner=50 blocks
14:36 kizeren Someone will have to make a skin to go along with it :)
14:36 jojoa1997 i can find one
14:36 jojoa1997 http://www.minecraftskins.com
14:36 RealBadAngel some1 should make avatar like textures for all the flora
14:37 Jordach wasnt there a minetest game for this?
14:37 RealBadAngel glowing at night
14:37 init pandoratest
14:37 jojoa1997 yeah but it was for 0.2
14:37 Jordach nope.
14:37 jojoa1997 IIRC
14:37 RealBadAngel so, the request
14:37 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2845
14:37 init having the new mapgen will be better, i think
14:38 RealBadAngel some1 makes textures for the plants
14:38 RealBadAngel i will make the HUGE trees
14:38 jojoa1997 make 200-500 high
14:39 RealBadAngel this can end with a game mode
14:39 RealBadAngel another gravity, floating mountais, world trees etc..
14:40 jojoa1997 so RealBadAngel this mod is a go
14:40 jojoa1997 go game mode
14:40 RealBadAngel plants glowing at night
14:40 RealBadAngel i like the idea
14:41 RealBadAngel and jungle everywhere
14:41 jojoa1997 i love it too
14:41 jojoa1997 make huge jungle trees but add smaller trees and finally 5 block high trees
14:43 RealBadAngel Jordach, screenshots links are somehow fucked up in this topic
14:43 Jordach somehow
14:44 jojoa1997 which topic
14:44 RealBadAngel ^^ jordach posted
14:45 jojoa1997 what tools would be there and oh
14:45 jojoa1997 i think bows and arrows
14:45 RealBadAngel i think two sets
14:45 init start smaller
14:46 init first code the basic stuff, then expand it
14:46 RealBadAngel wonder how to determine that depending on startin players pick
14:46 RealBadAngel i mean technic for humans
14:46 RealBadAngel bow and arrows like stuff for the blue ones
14:46 jojoa1997 use tha faction mod
14:46 jojoa1997 to make  2 groups
14:47 jojoa1997 that you cchooose in thhe  beginiig
14:48 jojoa1997 /nahi   /human
14:48 RealBadAngel what i can say right now. i see lotsa coding there
14:48 jojoa1997 and default is regualer
14:48 jojoa1997 yep
14:48 RealBadAngel some1 should take the lead of the project
14:48 jojoa1997 anyone want to make a topic on it so we can keep track of ideas
14:49 jojoa1997 I cant beginner proggramer
14:49 RealBadAngel Jordach, are you busy lately?
14:49 Jordach yes
14:49 Jordach see pm:
14:50 init jojoa1997: i already said
14:50 init if you want to code something big, start smaller
14:50 jojoa1997 i know gtg
14:50 RealBadAngel ha, i got an idea
14:50 RealBadAngel i will try to "sell" the idea to VanessaE
14:50 RealBadAngel :)
14:51 RealBadAngel shes able to handle stuff like that
14:51 RealBadAngel and prolly shes gonna like it
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14:52 pandaro I am happy that my idea was liked
14:56 OldCoder Hi
14:56 OldCoder Jordach, Hello
14:56 Jordach hey OldCoder
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14:57 Jordach OldCoder, pm
14:57 RealBadAngel hi OldCoder
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15:21 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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15:22 Jordach hey there PilzAdam
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15:40 OldCoder Hi
15:40 OldCoder PilzAdam, Howdy
15:40 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Ditto. The updates were made.
15:40 babyface1031 hi
15:40 OldCoder babyface1031, Good morning to you as well. Your 3D avatar went in the other day.
15:41 babyface1031 ty all the other 3d avatar were guys
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15:47 Infinity_69 hi
15:49 Calinou hi Infinity_69
15:49 Infinity_69 Calinou, do you like forums?
15:49 Infinity_69 http://hvgaming.bugs3.com/forum
15:49 Infinity_69 please register :)
15:49 init i still don't know why Infinity_69 isn't banned or quieted
15:49 Infinity_69 why should i be?
15:50 Infinity_69 hmm?
15:50 init spammer and flooder
15:50 Infinity_69 no
15:50 Infinity_69 theres gonna be a minetest forum/category there soon...
15:50 Infinity_69 i just installed the forum
15:50 Calinou we already have a forum
15:50 Calinou I like forums, but not yours
15:50 Calinou <img src="trollface.jpg">
15:50 Infinity_69 i just installed it :/
15:50 Infinity_69 -.-
15:51 Infinity_69 Calinou, pick, either you go and register, or im banning you there!
15:51 Infinity_69 PICK
15:51 Calinou nope.avi
15:51 Infinity_69 why nope.avi?
15:51 Infinity_69 ive seen it so many times, and not asked why .avi?
15:52 Infinity_69 so why?
15:52 Infinity_69 why not .png, .flw etc...
15:52 Calinou TF2 joke ;)
15:52 Infinity_69 oh :D
15:52 Calinou http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Nope.avi#nope.avi
15:53 Infinity_69 just saw it :d
15:53 Infinity_69 hat up, *nope* head up
15:53 Infinity_69 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBCjejaZbJo
15:54 Infinity_69 look at this
15:54 Infinity_69 this is what the U.S. army will look like :D
15:54 Infinity_69 if not already :D
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15:58 thexyz we already have forum, what's the point in creating another board, Infinity_69?
15:58 LunaVorax joined #minetest
15:59 Infinity_69 not just for Minetest
15:59 Infinity_69 its for the gaming community
15:59 Infinity_69 there will be several games there...
16:00 Infinity_69 first 2 are Counter-Strike & Minetest
16:01 thexyz so, what's the point?
16:01 Infinity_69 its the community were talking about
16:01 Infinity_69 THE COMMUNITY!
16:02 thexyz huh, community?
16:02 Infinity_69 btw, can somebody get me a .torrent for The Hunger Games?
16:02 Infinity_69 the movie
16:02 Infinity_69 :D
16:02 Infinity_69 i cant open magnet links :/
16:02 thexyz >Total number of registered users: 1
16:02 thexyz Infinity_69: shall I call freenode staff?
16:03 Infinity_69 its me
16:03 Infinity_69 sure :D
16:03 Infinity_69 for what?
16:03 Infinity_69 wait...
16:03 Infinity_69 please dont +q or +b me
16:03 Infinity_69 i did nothing wrong!
16:04 thexyz Unlawful activities and their related support activities are considered off-topic, as are inappropriate advertising, heavy media file trading, gaming and proprietary game software modding, warez, hax0r activity, porn and various forms of antisocial behavior, including (but not limited to) political, racial, ethnic, religious or gender-related invective. Off-topic activity may result in users being barred from the network
16:04 Infinity_69 what?1
16:04 Infinity_69 I JUST INSTALLED THE FORUM
16:05 Infinity_69 thats why i need/want/would like some new members
16:06 thexyz 19:59  < Infinity_69> | btw, can somebody get me a .torrent for The Hunger Games?
16:06 thexyz discussing piracy @ freenode is not a good idea
16:06 Infinity_69 why not?
16:06 Infinity_69 tell me that you have NEVER torrented/pirated anything -.-
16:07 thexyz I'm not discussing it here as it is against guidelines
16:07 Infinity_69 LMAOROF
16:17 john_minetest :/
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16:23 * Calinou plays minetes
16:23 Calinou minetest*
16:23 Calinou i'm offtopic, ban me
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16:27 KikaRz Hello!
16:28 KikaRz It's Minetest... Minetest... tomorrow we will play the Mineteeest...
16:28 KikaRz e_e'
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16:29 thexyz Calinou: ?
16:30 john_minetest Can anyone tell me, how to pipe commandline output to a file?
16:30 init > file
16:30 thexyz > file
16:31 john_minetest It doesn't pipe all the stuff or nothing, depending on the program.
16:32 john_minetest linux commandline.
16:32 thexyz if you wish to pipe stderr too then >file 2>&1
16:32 init &>file should work too
16:32 john_minetest okay, thx.
16:33 Infinity_69 im getting The Hunger Games
16:33 Infinity_69 :d
16:33 Infinity_69 soon done :D
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16:34 Infinity_69 hi Pool Go Ken1
16:34 Calinou seems legitr
16:34 Calinou -r
16:34 Infinity_69 what does
16:34 Calinou my hands are cold :|
16:34 Infinity_69 then touch my...umm...nvm -.-
16:35 Infinity_69 xD
16:35 NekoGloop pool-go-ken == inverse of NekoGloop, Calinou. In case you missed that.
16:35 Infinity_69 :D
16:35 Infinity_69 its clever, huh :D
16:35 Infinity_69 CLEVERBOT!
16:35 Infinity_69 http://www.cleverbot.com
16:36 NekoGloop cleverbot == ben
16:37 Infinity_69 no!
16:37 Infinity_69 srsly, go there
16:37 Infinity_69 that asshole is clever >:/
16:37 NekoGloop ask him about ben
16:37 Infinity_69 she wont even take her clothes off1
16:37 Infinity_69 she needs me :d
16:37 Infinity_69 http://www.cleverbot.com/j2log-xGsTLtKGAWBQGACEFMEE-detail
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16:39 Infinity_69 ok, shes an idiot
16:39 KikaRz Who?
16:39 NekoGloop Infinity_69: that log is empty
16:39 Infinity_69 really_
16:39 Infinity_69 wtf Öd
16:39 Infinity_69 :d
16:39 Infinity_69 Clever Bot
16:39 Infinity_69 lawl
16:39 Infinity_69 she forgot Estonian ÖD
16:39 Infinity_69 :D
16:40 Infinity_69 oh no she didät!
16:40 NekoGloop Let's see if i can make him talk more about ben.
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16:42 * Jordach wonders why i ignored him
16:42 Infinity_69 omg, she wants to marry me :)
16:42 NekoGloop Jordach: because spam
16:42 Jordach yup
16:43 Infinity_69 oh...
16:43 Infinity_69 Pool, Go Ken!
16:43 Infinity_69 i know why it was empty
16:43 Infinity_69 its cached in my pc...
16:43 Infinity_69 xD
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16:43 Infinity_69 so it takes the whole conversation...
16:44 Infinity_69 lol
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16:45 Infinity_69 my upload rate is 0-50 kb/s
16:45 Infinity_69 :D
16:45 john_minetest My conversation: Which OS are you using?
16:45 john_minetest Yes I am.
16:45 john_minetest Are you using Linux for running on?
16:45 john_minetest No, I am using windows.
16:45 john_minetest F*** YOU.
16:45 john_minetest Please mind your language!
16:45 john_minetest xD
16:45 Infinity_69 dude, stop harassing the bot!
16:45 NekoGloop john_minetest: Therefore the supierior OS is Windows.
16:45 Infinity_69 TheXYZ
16:45 Infinity_69 ban john_Minetest
16:46 Infinity_69 his harassing the bot1
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16:46 Infinity_69 >D
16:46 Jordach high five
16:47 * Infinity_69 gives Jordach a high-five, but misses his hand and hits his face
16:51 * Infinity_69 waits for a slap-back
16:53 * Infinity_69 is correcting the HTML code before putting it online
16:54 Infinity_69 hey if i have warnings, is it bad?
16:54 Infinity_69 not errors, just warnings
16:56 Infinity_69 MY CSS3 doesnt have any errors too :D
16:56 Infinity_69 IM CLEAR :D
16:57 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AJBNQ6x7Bw What in...
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17:08 babyface1031 is smooth stone and stone the same if not how do i make smooth stone
17:09 Jordach smooth stone is refered to cooked cobble, since there are usually no sticky out-y bits on default:stone
17:09 babyface1031 ok ty
17:14 marktraceur Heh, sticky outy
17:14 markveidemanis Stone?
17:15 Jordach marktraceur, best way top describe
17:16 NekoGloop -p
17:17 marktraceur Jordach: Prottruding?
17:17 Jordach better
17:17 marktraceur Protruding*
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17:19 NekoGloop meow
17:20 marktraceur Youow
17:20 bas080 woef woef..
17:22 klunk hello !
17:22 NekoGloop :3
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17:24 klunk marktraceur: I'm sorry for yesterday; I worked more my engrish, and for now, my welcome message will be Hello. It should be said what I mean.
17:25 NekoGloop what was the problem?
17:25 marktraceur klunk: Hi, I'm sorry, I don't remember what was up yesterday
17:25 marktraceur klunk: But sure, what's up?
17:26 babyface1031 can someone help me find the newest 0.4.4 everyone i have tryed i log in the server adn it still says i am not on the right 0.4.4
17:26 klunk I had talking to someone, a newcomer, I think and said him stuff wich appeared to not said what I wanted to say.
17:26 NekoGloop 0.4.4-r1 can be found on github
17:27 klunk because it should be "welcome" but appears like "BOUH !!" (threatened)
17:27 Jordach babyface1031, your problem is that you probably have the newest and the stable wont work with the latest.
17:28 klunk so, no worry of nothing, just if someone arrives here, I must let you talk to him before to welcome without misunderstanding.
17:28 marktraceur klunk: Oh, right
17:29 marktraceur klunk: It's OK, I joked about you sounding creepy but it was only a joke :)
17:29 babyface1031 anyone have the link to the 0.4.4 that OldCoder has on his servers
17:29 marktraceur klunk: IRC is always international, so we imperialist Anglophones all understand that we have to half-translate sometimes
17:31 klunk marktraceur: ok ! I had thought I hadn't said something correct for a welcome; I'm used to failed english speaks :-)
17:32 * marktraceur looks it up
17:32 OldCoder Hi
17:32 OldCoder babyface1031, It is my 0.4.4
17:32 OldCoder babyface1031, You may have the sources; see me later.
17:33 babyface1031 ok
17:33 * OldCoder is on a short errand
17:33 marktraceur klunk: "It will be ever better with your touch" does sound like something you might say to a lover over candlelit dinner
17:33 NekoGloop Or a very bad pickup lin
17:33 NekoGloop line, if my e key will work
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17:34 marktraceur Bad Pickup Lin: Chinese game show about a guy bombing with women at a bar
17:34 klunk yes I was afraid about my use of touch, now I know ...
17:34 marktraceur klunk: I suppose you meant something like "influence", which was sort of understood
17:35 klunk marktraceur: influence sounds ok, I will try to remember, thanks !
17:36 klunk Hi OlCoder, john_minetest. I just connected two times to Zegaton and it appears I havn't worldedit. Oldcoder, do you wants me to see that with john ?
17:36 marktraceur klunk: Also, emoticons and exclamation marks certainly help express enthusiasm, and differentiates it well from other emotions (e.g. arousal)
17:37 john_minetest klunk: coming
17:37 klunk marktraceur: yes, good idea :-)
17:37 klunk john_minetest, OldCoder ok !
17:38 Obiewan1111 Is there a way to stop a sapling growing without obscuring the sight?
17:39 marktraceur Obiewan1111: Make it dark?
17:39 marktraceur (that may not matter)
17:39 PilzAdam saplings grow in the dark
17:39 marktraceur (experimentation is fun)
17:39 marktraceur (boy that parenthetical statement could have used some emoticons and exclamation marks)
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17:40 Obiewan1111 If there isn't a way, there should be!
17:40 Obiewan1111 Like a "Fake Sapling".
17:40 john_minetest make it yourself
17:41 john_minetest 5 lines of Lua :D
17:41 Obiewan1111 Dunno how to.]
17:46 marktraceur Obiewan1111: That would be more like a bush
17:46 Obiewan1111 Not really. o.o
17:46 marktraceur Obiewan1111: Simple enough to do, see e.g. the farming mod(s)
17:46 Obiewan1111 It would be a planted sapling.
17:47 marktraceur Obiewan1111: You could probably do something like "plant seed, which grows into sapling, which grows into bigger sapling, which grows into tree"
17:47 marktraceur When I was chatting with RealBadAngel about L-system trees, a big part of my theory was that we would support incremental growth
17:47 marktraceur (I don't know whether that's the case now, I haven't tried his trees yet)
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18:09 NekoGloop marktraceur: it is not
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18:57 sfan5[iPod] my computer broke
18:57 Jordach uh-oh
18:57 * NekoGloop mutters something about linux
18:57 sfan5[iPod] ...
18:57 NekoGloop Actually the odd thing is that my computer was being strange this morning
18:58 Jordach NekoGloop, they do that, like women
18:58 sfan5[iPod] it beeps and fails to connect to any hardware like sound card or hdd
18:58 NekoGloop My system is set up so that a "System Restore" function is set as a dualboot-able OS.
18:58 Calinou recovery partitions ahoy?
18:58 Calinou i've removed these on my desktop
18:58 Calinou :>
18:58 NekoGloop Well, this makes a boot manager appear instead of just going straight to windows
18:58 Calinou frees up 50GB
18:58 Calinou out of 2TiB
18:59 Jordach thats like 4%
18:59 NekoGloop And if i never press anything, it automatically goes to windows after 3 secs or so
18:59 NekoGloop It didnt do that this morning
18:59 Calinou TiB != TB by far, heh, thunar and df -h both seem to count with decimal prefix
18:59 Calinou ...the standard is binary prefix since like 15 years ago
18:59 RealBadAngel offtopic: does 8 hobbits equals 1 hobbyte? ;)
18:59 Calinou lol
18:59 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: no
18:59 sfan5[iPod] :D
19:00 Jordach RealBadAngel, haha!
19:00 Calinou welcome to my forum signature
19:00 RealBadAngel ;)
19:01 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on RealBadAngel's head
19:01 NekoGloop So do your solar panels not send fractions of power now?
19:01 RealBadAngel its night out there, how they could?
19:02 NekoGloop I mean in technic, stupid.
19:02 RealBadAngel i will get back to technic when im done with trees framework
19:02 NekoGloop So basically you dont give a fuck.
19:03 NekoGloop Got it.
19:03 RealBadAngel no, i dont have time for that
19:03 RealBadAngel each day 10 hrs takes job
19:03 marktraceur NekoGloop: Wow, want to be more confrontational about that?
19:04 NekoGloop s/each day 10 hrs takes job/I work for 10 hrs each day/
19:04 RealBadAngel im off 5 am returnin 5:15pm
19:04 NekoGloop marktraceur: I'm sure I could.
19:04 marktraceur NekoGloop: Or you could not be rude instead, and we'd all be happier for it
19:04 NekoGloop marktraceur: I'm only returning his favor.
19:04 Calinou http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/temp/Capture%20d'%C3%A9cran%20-%2016012013%20-%2020%3A01%3A39.png
19:05 marktraceur NekoGloop: Where was he confrontational like that?
19:05 thexyz Calinou: lol
19:05 NekoGloop marktraceur: I dont think you were here then. Long time ago.
19:05 marktraceur NekoGloop: Logs, maybe?
19:05 Jordach Calinou, lolollol
19:06 NekoGloop marktraceur: Dont care, maybe?
19:06 marktraceur NekoGloop: Then quit being pissy about it
19:06 NekoGloop marktraceur: Then stop bringing it up.
19:07 marktraceur NekoGloop: This isn't a question of which came first. You called RBA stupid and swore at him unnecessarily, *then* I warned you about not being rude and pissy.
19:07 Jordach ladies, hambags down
19:07 NekoGloop Indeed.
19:08 RealBadAngel im gloop-proof
19:08 RealBadAngel dont count that
19:08 NekoGloop aka he has /ignore
19:08 Jordach if im going to be the one who is end all to be all arguments, then this is a problem
19:08 marktraceur RealBadAngel: If it were just about you, I wouldn't say anything. This is a channel for a serious free project, and we can't risk alienating people.
19:09 marktraceur Not that we haven't already, but I can't be blamed for that.
19:09 NekoGloop Then why dont you stop it then.
19:09 marktraceur ....accurately, anyway.
19:09 RealBadAngel cats are strange, folks have just to get used to them
19:09 marktraceur NekoGloop: I intend to, but a warning suffices for now.
19:09 NekoGloop Aha.
19:12 Jordach marktraceur, you wont know what hell is until you have kids :P (i've had to babysit before and its harsh)
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19:14 jojoa1997 RealBadAngel you there?
19:14 marktraceur Jordach: Hell? I can't wait to have kids.
19:15 marktraceur Well, I can wait. But it's certainly an exciting idea.
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19:19 RealBadAngel jojoa1997, yes, but not for long
19:20 jojoa1997 what has the avatar idea come to
19:20 RealBadAngel nowhere yet ;)
19:20 Muadtralk I heard cats being brought up
19:20 Muadtralk whats up #minetest :P
19:21 RealBadAngel hi sdzen
19:21 NekoGloop meow
19:21 jojoa1997 RealBadAngel will you be making the tree at least
19:21 Muadtralk watch out neko I broke my cats tail this morning
19:21 RealBadAngel sure
19:22 RealBadAngel but now im off to sleep
19:22 RealBadAngel cya all
19:22 jojoa1997 k good night
19:26 * Jordach has noticed strange behaviour with jordach's 'q' key
19:26 Jordach sometimes it works, sometimes it dont wanna
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19:28 Muadtralk hmmmm
19:28 Muadtralk I think you will have to consult the q dimension for that jordach
19:28 Muadtralk they may be conversing with your keys
19:28 Muadtralk telling them to not work
19:29 Muadtralk or you may need to clean under the key
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19:46 Infinity_69 hi
19:46 Infinity_69 i saw The Hunger Games
19:46 Infinity_69 AWESOME :D
19:46 Infinity_69 Cathrene and Peter won :d
19:46 Infinity_69 w00t!
19:50 marktraceur Jordach: Are you saying there's something wrong with the q continuum?
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19:52 infinity_69 hi
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19:53 infinity_69 hey niko
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19:57 babyface1031 hi
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19:59 erlehmann i commented on the shirt effort http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=63922#p63922
19:59 erlehmann hello minetest
19:59 erlehmann :)
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19:59 marktraceur erlehmann: Hi!
19:59 erlehmann how can i put sponge into the map generator?
19:59 erlehmann is that possible via lua mod?
19:59 erlehmann i want them to be not craftable, but findable somewhere in the sand
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20:00 marktraceur erlehmann: See e.g. moreores
20:00 marktraceur erlehmann: You have to hook into minetest.on_generated or something
20:00 marktraceur Then replace random bits with your node
20:00 sapier on_generated needs a major overhaul
20:01 sapier at least if it's supposed to significantly modify generated blocks
20:02 marktraceur Hm....this gives me a thought
20:02 sapier if you touch a node core touches at least 6 others
20:02 marktraceur Well yeah
20:02 sapier so modifying large amounts of nodes isn't quite anything to be done by lua
20:03 erlehmann wow http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2671
20:03 erlehmann sapier, i do not want to have many sponges
20:05 sapier I just wanted to warn you as yesterday someone wanted to replace all air nodes by water ... no chance to do this from lua
20:07 sapier at least not with current setnode function
20:08 erlehmann sapier, underwatercraft?
20:08 erlehmann MINAQUARIA
20:08 sapier something like that yes
20:09 thexyz how about aliasing air to water?
20:09 PilzAdam you can easily set air to water in the mapgen aliases for mapgen_air
20:10 sapier of course ... but you can't replace it with "setnode" maybe transformation handling needs to be disabled for "on_generated" handler too
20:13 marktraceur Woo, minetest merch on the way
20:14 markveidemanis ?
20:15 erlehmann marktraceur, in the forum post? or do you have some other source?
20:15 marktraceur erlehmann: I bought some from cafepress
20:16 erlehmann marktraceur, gibe link.
20:16 marktraceur erlehmann: http://www.cafepress.com/+minetest+gifts
20:16 erlehmann also, be aware that you can re-use and modify it (CC BY-SA 3.0) :3
20:16 * marktraceur will draw a moustache on the logo
20:16 marktraceur Woohoo, free culture!
20:17 markveidemanis LoL
20:17 markveidemanis I like the MeSe shirt
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20:25 PilzAdam bye
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20:36 erlehmann marktraceur, thanks for the link to the shop. I mailed cafepress to explain CC BY-SA.
20:38 marktraceur Excellent.
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20:53 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2155
20:54 VanessaE Nore added the ability to sort items in tubes by color tags \o/
20:55 Jordach VanessaE, OMFG
20:56 VanessaE also on another note, I've lost 45.8 kg as of today :-)
20:56 Jordach pipeworks awesomeness level: 999
20:56 Jordach oh and well done VanessaE
20:56 Jordach night all
20:56 VanessaE nigh t:)
20:56 VanessaE night :)
20:56 Jordach :P
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20:57 Octupus Hello
20:58 babyface1031 hi Octupus
20:58 VanessaE bahahahahaha
20:58 VanessaE look at today's Google doodle
20:59 VanessaE with a built-in NES-style minigame
20:59 erlehmann whom of you made mesecons?
21:00 Octupus Hi babyface1031
21:00 erlehmann i like it, but the microcontroller does not seem to be in style
21:00 thexyz Jeija did
21:00 erlehmann and the and/or things need better graphics
21:00 VanessaE hey now, be nice - I did the graphics for mesecons :)
21:01 Menche I don't understand why the mesecons.tk website uses those super-ultra-mega-high resolution textures. I think it should use the default ones.
21:01 VanessaE Menche: because they look flashy?
21:01 VanessaE (and those are from my HDX texture pack)
21:02 Menche VanessaE: but they don't match the default mesecons textures and could be confusing
21:02 VanessaE that said, it's just a website :-)
21:02 VanessaE also, mesecons.tk is deprecated.
21:02 VanessaE use mesecons.net
21:02 thexyz why is it still here then?
21:03 VanessaE thexyz: dunno, ask jeija :)
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21:03 Menche oh, it's down. anyway, mesecons.net still uses the obscenely huge textures
21:03 Menche doesn't match mesecons
21:04 VanessaE Menche: they're the same texture as mesecons, just higher resolution.
21:04 thexyz >"Mesecons" is a (free) mod for the game minetest-c55
21:04 thexyz Minetest, not minetest-c55
21:04 Octupus Hi Menche
21:04 Menche hi Octupus
21:04 thexyz and yeah, I agree with Menche
21:05 Menche they are just a higher resolution, but, well, they're a higher resolution, not the default
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21:05 Menche and i thought the full name was minetest-c55
21:06 VanessaE I guess not anymore, it does just say "Minetest" at the top these days
21:06 VanessaE (though I also still use the -c55 nomenclature in places, like HDX's menu screen)
21:06 Menche suppose i'll have to change the menutitle.png of my pack
21:07 thexyz https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/1d13d106dd58cd18a019046840c180da25001b02
21:07 Menche ...and get around to finishing it too
21:07 Menche lol
21:10 Menche argh, my audio cable was 3" too short, so I had to use a 5' one
21:14 Octupus I have an idea
21:14 Octupus But it might be an engine thing
21:16 * Menche is all ears
21:16 Menche the suspense...
21:16 VanessaE what idea
21:17 Octupus Well
21:17 Octupus I been playing mc this past month
21:17 Octupus Again i see that they have a feature that allows players to update from there client instead of the download
21:18 Octupus so i suggest to make a single client that can update isnt of having ppl to download and delete all the time
21:18 thexyz useless
21:18 thexyz too hard to implement
21:18 Octupus :/
21:18 Menche would have to check that it's in a folder the user has write access to
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21:19 thexyz that should be done by your distro's package management system
21:19 Octupus VanessaE, Menche,What do you guys think
21:19 Menche but would be nice for people who don't use git
21:19 Menche wouldn't have to open a web browser to dl the latest
21:19 Octupus arent i smart :P
21:20 Menche would be mainly useful for windows, as linux has package management
21:20 VanessaE Octupus: I'd have to decline also.
21:20 Octupus like me because i use windows
21:21 Octupus VanessaE,As i said it was just an idea :P
21:21 VanessaE Octupus: we try not to hold that against you (using windows ;) )
21:21 Menche it would be annoying to have to open the browser to dl the latest version
21:21 Octupus :P
21:21 thexyz windowsfags should suffer
21:21 thexyz oh, wait, forgot to put some ^W's
21:21 Octupus xD
21:22 Menche I keep an installation of windows around in dual boot
21:22 thexyz ATM there are: official win32 builds, sfan5's ones and mine
21:22 Menche because Apple makes me
21:22 Menche iTunes is the only reason i have windows
21:22 thexyz how should the thing determine which update to download?
21:22 Octupus xD
21:22 Menche i thought they were competitors...
21:22 marktraceur Menche: Why must you use iTunes instead of others?
21:23 Menche marktraceur: silly iPod
21:23 Octupus marktraceur: because itunes is the best :3
21:23 thexyz libimobiledevice
21:23 Menche libimobiledevice, for some reason, lets me take music off of the iPod but not put it on
21:23 marktraceur Menche: RockBox is a great replacement for the handcuffs that come with iPods
21:23 Menche its an iPod touch
21:23 marktraceur Oh, yeah, that's just a bad idea
21:24 marktraceur Menche: I'd suggest selling it and getting a less restricting device, mate
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21:24 thexyz lol
21:24 Menche perhaps it was foolish of me to update it, i should have known Apple breaks other platforms with every update
21:24 Menche and most jailbreak utilities are windows and mac only
21:25 VanessaE kaeza: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2155  \o/
21:25 thexyz freedom is damn expensive, isn't it, marktraceur?
21:25 VanessaE also, hi
21:25 Menche its almost dead, the battery's horrible and the screen's starting to flicker
21:25 thexyz then just throw it out
21:26 marktraceur thexyz: Not particularly, it means I spend a lot less on new tech
21:26 thexyz hm...
21:26 marktraceur thexyz: "OMG OMG THE NEW IPHONE CAME OUT MY OLD ONE HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A YEAR"
21:26 erlehmann Octupus, update is a feature of your operating system distribution or it is not. i know only four distributions (osx, windows, android/linux, ios) which have sub-par package management.
21:26 marktraceur I had the same phone for three years, then switched to one that will, in all likelihood, last 3 more.
21:27 marktraceur (OK, there was an interim step, but it's still cheaper)
21:27 erlehmann VanessaE, your pipes seem too round for me.
21:27 erlehmann VanessaE, can we have more blocky pipes? :3
21:27 VanessaE erlehmann: no. :-)
21:27 Menche yeah, minetest is about blocks
21:27 kaeza VanessaE, +1e+100000
21:27 erlehmann transparent pipes are an awesome idea
21:27 Menche IMO, super high detail nodeboxes are a little out of place in mt
21:28 Menche in most cases
21:28 VanessaE some of us use MT differently than others :)
21:28 erlehmann VanessaE, you seem to be an awesome modder btw.
21:28 VanessaE if it's about cubes, then flowing water is our, too
21:28 VanessaE out*
21:28 thexyz marktraceur: well, http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04
21:28 VanessaE and 45 degree rails
21:28 VanessaE and signs
21:28 VanessaE and.. and..
21:28 Menche well, to some extent. i personally like and use tonyka's 3d tree trunks
21:29 pandaro i love openmoko
21:29 Menche is tonyka still around anyway?
21:29 VanessaE erlehmann: that said, there are some blocky, boxy-looking pipes in the mod, they're just disabled by default because they don't "work".
21:29 VanessaE (look at init.lua, uncomment the dofile line near the top)
21:29 Menche tonyka was awesome at nodeboxes. look at the chains he made
21:30 init hai VanessaE
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21:33 erlehmann Menche, links?
21:34 erlehmann maybe i can make mechanics mod again!
21:34 kaeza hay init/Exio
21:34 kaeza hai*
21:34 init wazzup kaeza
21:34 Menche erlehmann, to what? tonyka's 3d stuff?
21:34 Menche http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2207
21:34 kaeza not much
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21:35 erlehmann > forniture
21:35 erlehmann hahaha
21:35 erlehmann lol bathroom crafting
21:35 Menche is that how furniture is spelled in Spanish?
21:35 Octupus OMG SFAN LATEST ADDS HUNER WOOOT
21:35 Menche he's from spain
21:35 jojoa1997 whats hunter woot
21:36 erlehmann toilet lol
21:36 kaeza Menche, forniture[sic] is a typo
21:37 kaeza it's "muebles" in spanish
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21:37 kaeza or "mueblería"
21:37 Menche oh, duh. been 3 years since i took spanish
21:37 * kaeza is native Spanish speaker
21:37 Octupus thats not furniture
21:37 Octupus furniratura
21:38 Octupus thats furniture is spanish
21:38 kaeza well, "muebles" is in Uruguayan Spanish
21:38 Menche well google translate sais it's muebles
21:38 john_minetest In german it's "Möbel"
21:38 init kaeza: what about my spanish!
21:38 Octupus muebels is sofa :/
21:38 * Menche is only fluent in english
21:38 kaeza or
21:38 kaeza right :)
21:39 Octupus :P
21:39 Menche plus a bit of spanish and a tiny bit of latin
21:39 Octupus lait and spanish are same :/
21:39 Menche not really
21:39 Octupus *latin
21:39 kaeza nope
21:39 Menche some words are similar
21:39 john_minetest Some words are similar to latin in every language.
21:40 init muebles for me, is more than "sofa"
21:40 kaeza latin is the language from which others like English and Spanish were born
21:40 Menche "casa" for example is the same. but plural is "casas" in spanish and "casae" in latin
21:40 Octupus ok
21:40 Octupus :)
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21:46 sapier john_minetest I don't assume latin and chinese to have to have lots of words in common ;-)
21:50 marktraceur thexyz: I caved and went with the N900, which is about as good as it gets right now
21:51 Menche most of my immediate family are extreme apple fans
21:51 init marktraceur: do you have a N900?
21:52 init i'll steal it
21:52 sapier <is hiding his cellphone right now
21:52 john_minetest sapier: Yeah. But in all the languages spoken in the countries conquered by the romans and the countries conquered by the ones that have been conquered by the romans (epic complicated sentence structure).
21:52 Octupus who's server is lastest git build of sfan5 build i wanna see the new features
21:53 marktraceur init: I do, but you'd better not
21:53 * Menche has an ancient scratched up flip-phone
21:53 init marktraceur: why?
21:53 Octupus VanessaE,^^^
21:53 sapier i think "western hemisphere" matches quite good
21:53 * kaeza has a Nokia 1100
21:53 Octupus ^'\
21:53 john_minetest sapier: Australia is in the east ;)
21:53 marktraceur init: Because....theft is illegal?
21:53 sapier best nokia phone is N950 but that hasn't been sold
21:53 marktraceur init: Because I don't want to have to buy another phone?
21:54 init oh, i think you said "but better don't get a N950"
21:54 VanessaE Octupus: my server is up-to-date, or possible, *maybe* one commit behind
21:54 init but, sapier++
21:54 sapier hmm true but I assume australia and new zealand are somehow included within "western hemisphere" even if geographicaly not correct
21:54 VanessaE so it should have all "new features" that you want to check out
21:55 Menche i never understood "east" and "west" hemispheres
21:55 Menche the earth is a sphere; whether you go east or west you'll get to the other one
21:55 marktraceur Menche: Simple enough to set a "0" location for the rotation
21:55 sapier if you go north you'll end up south too
21:55 marktraceur I think its the IDL for Earth
21:56 kaeza VanessaE, your pipes are able to transport any liquids right?
21:56 marktraceur sapier: Not true. You'll end up at a pole.
21:56 Menche its "east" and "west" from Greenwich right?
21:56 VanessaE kaeza: just water at present, because mauvebic is dragging his heels in rewriting his code for a pull request that avoids rewrites all of mine :-)
21:57 sapier if you don't stop and continue walk into same direction you'll end up south (at least for some time)
21:57 kaeza oh ok
21:57 kaeza lol.
21:57 sapier if you haven't frozen by time beeing
21:57 VanessaE (and I'm too lazy to re-integrate it myself)
21:57 kaeza I was going to try mixing lava and water tubes just for the lulz
21:57 marktraceur sapier: But then you're no longer going north, you're going south
21:58 marktraceur And it's obvious that, by going south, you will go south.
21:58 Menche but this is #minetest; here, we measure direction by +/-x and +/-z
21:58 Menche and altitude by +/-y
21:59 Octupus VanessaE,your a commit behind
21:59 sapier if you decide once and don't change direction anytime later this isn't relevant ...
21:59 marktraceur Menche: Neither z nor x winds around.
21:59 marktraceur Menche: But if you dig to -32k you'll wind up at +33K
21:59 Menche which makes it simpler
21:59 marktraceur Menche: Moot point, of course, you'll die either way
21:59 VanessaE Octupus: updating...
21:59 Menche ...?
21:59 Octupus :P
22:00 kaeza marktraceur, does the Y coord wrap around now?
22:00 Menche the Void at -30912 is solid; you can stand on it
22:00 sapier if noone did do anything to avoid it of course
22:00 marktraceur No, I'm kidding around
22:00 Menche and you can't dig it; it's just nothing, no mapblocks
22:00 marktraceur Menche: I didn't know that actually. Can you place things on it?
22:00 sapier 16 bit values do overflow ending up max opposit
22:00 Octupus what about making a mod that spawns cloud at -30912 so you cant go below?
22:01 Menche you can't build to it
22:01 marktraceur Menche: I guess gravel would stop at it, though?
22:01 Menche Octupus: you can't go below anyway; the void is solid
22:01 Menche marktraceur: i don't know about that, dropped items at least fall down into the Void
22:01 sapier so someone added a check ;-)
22:01 marktraceur Hm.
22:01 Octupus yea but who wanst to see nothingness at the bottom ?
22:01 Menche sapier: no, unloaded mapblocks are solid by default
22:02 VanessaE celeron55_: is there any particular reason the mapgen doesn't at least create bedrock at -30911?
22:02 Menche VanessaE: is there any particular reason why that is needed?
22:02 VanessaE Menche: because standing on a void makes the game look unfinished?
22:02 kaeza Menche, making things more "realistic"?
22:02 sapier but min int16_t -1 is max int16_t
22:03 init bedrock sounds too much MC
22:03 Menche kaeza: yeah, in real life the world is flat and 30 km deep and is on top of indestructible material
22:03 init why not testrock or whatever
22:03 * marktraceur still wants a mantle underneath -30K
22:03 kaeza init, +1
22:04 marktraceur 30KM is, serendipitously, the size of earth's crust
22:04 Menche marktraceur: just lava down there? i kinda like that, but I also like the current void, can't decide
22:04 marktraceur Menche: It's not lava, I don't think, just hot liquid
22:04 kaeza Menche, if the world pattern was tileable, someone could do an "infinite world" by wrapping around X/Z
22:04 marktraceur Menche: I think with proper tools it would be cool to be able to dig into it
22:05 * marktraceur looks up more geology articles
22:05 Menche kaeza: yay I finally dug to the bottom of the worldAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
22:05 Menche kaeza: oh you said X/Z, yeah that would be nice
22:06 marktraceur "Mantle rocks shallower than about 410 km depth consist mostly of olivine, pyroxenes, spinel-structure minerals, and garnet; Mantle rocks shallower than about 410 km depth consist mostly of olivine, pyroxenes, spinel-structure minerals, and garnet"
22:06 marktraceur Rocks, not lava
22:06 sapier marktraceur depends on where you're living continental crust can be up to 70 km while oceanic is as less as 5
22:06 NakedFury I would prefer having a core area instead of just cliched voidness
22:07 VanessaE Octupus: update completed.
22:07 marktraceur sapier: From sea level, though?
22:07 marktraceur sapier: Besides, going with an average sounds like a good idea
22:07 VanessaE (ignore the commit ID in the motd, it's from a one-line commit I added in my branch)
22:07 * Menche would like if the cave generator would make larger and larger caves the deeper it goes
22:07 Octupus Thanks Vanessa Il try now
22:08 Octupus VanessaE,what version do you have because ihave 56b76a5
22:08 marktraceur "The inner core is solid, the outer core is liquid, and the mantle solid/plastic."
22:08 sapier sea or kontinental average? ;-)
22:08 marktraceur sapier: Total average. So probably 40K, actually.
22:08 kaeza why not a layer made of nyancats at -30900?
22:08 init aww
22:09 VanessaE Octupus: this is git commit c691d619[...] plus a o ne-line change that c55/hmmmm had me test a while back
22:09 * Menche is eager for the moonlet mod somebody was working on
22:09 john_minetest Menche: This is not really realistic. The deeper you go, the greater the pressure will be. So you will find (nearly) no caves far down in real life because they simply collapse.
22:09 sapier i don't think so as sea is about 70% I'd assume total average somewhere around 20-25 but i didn't calculate this ... still we have 32k blocks so why not use it ;-)
22:09 VanessaE Octupus: that is, this is current with git HEAD now.
22:09 Menche john_minetest: minetest is made of cubes, that isn't exactly realistic :)
22:09 Octupus VanessaE,then il try that 1 now
22:09 kaeza is there a hook called when a player receives damage?
22:10 john_minetest Menche: :D
22:10 Menche john_minetest: and huge deep caverns would be AWESOME
22:10 john_minetest Menche: Yeah. Underground city, we're coming :D
22:10 sapier kaeza no isnt
22:11 kaeza sapier, so the best bet is an on_globalstep callback that checks for changes?
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22:12 sapier nope best bet is to add it to core  ;-) on_globalstep is a workaround
22:12 init or adding it to the API
22:12 init damn you sapier
22:12 sapier :-)
22:12 * kaeza is having an idea
22:12 * kaeza will not coment on his idea
22:12 kaeza comment even
22:13 Octupus why/ :(
22:14 Octupus VanessaE: i cant find it :/
22:16 VanessaE can't find what?
22:16 Octupus the commit
22:18 Octupus found it
22:19 VanessaE Octupus: this is why I just basically just cd minetestdir;git pull; cmake[...]; make :-)
22:20 Octupus ':P
22:20 Octupus took awhile for me to find but i did it
22:21 Octupus so VanessaE,when i extract it how do i run it?
22:21 VanessaE extract what?  the git zipball?
22:21 VanessaE you have to compile it first
22:22 Octupus :/
22:22 VanessaE or get one of sfan5's or thexyz's builds
22:22 Octupus i just extracted it
22:22 VanessaE show me the URL you got "it" from
22:22 Octupus i used sfans lastest but his doent work with your server'
22:23 VanessaE show me the URL you got it from
22:23 Octupus k
22:23 Octupus https://github.com/celeron55/minetest
22:23 Menche that has to be compiled
22:23 VanessaE Octupus: that's not a build, that's source.
22:24 Octupus :O
22:24 Menche there's builds in sticky topics at the top of general discussion
22:24 Octupus :O
22:24 VanessaE looks like thexyz's builds aren't up-to-date.
22:25 VanessaE http://minetest.ru/builds/minetest-2013.01.14-61f5ca6b16.zip
22:25 VanessaE but this one should do.
22:25 VanessaE it's one commit behind
22:25 Menche so it would have particles :D
22:25 Octupus thanks
22:26 VanessaE yup
22:26 Octupus i feel like a dummy trying to find a client xD
22:26 VanessaE the only next commit fixes some right-click bug
22:27 Octupus its works :D
22:27 Octupus thanks vanessa
22:28 VanessaE cool
22:28 Menche could they fix the bug where you have to jiggle the mouse to open a formspec after just closing one?
22:29 Menche cuz that's annoying
22:29 john_minetest Menche: +1, this bug is really annoying.
22:29 sapier what exactly happens there?
22:30 john_minetest If you press "t" for example and write something, press ENTER and want to press any key, it won't work
22:30 Menche sapier: open and close a formspec. the cursor stays visible, and you can't open you're inventory until you jiggle the mouse
22:30 sapier ahh ok
22:30 Uberi Menche: I reported that a long time ago, kahrl fixed it
22:30 Menche Uberi: but apparently it didn't make it into celeron55/minetest
22:30 Uberi Menche: yeah, it's a shame, I'll comment on the issue again
22:36 kaeza what is the name of the "lava bucket" item? default:bucket_lava?
22:36 Octupus no
22:36 Octupus bucket:bucket_lava
22:37 kaeza thanks Octu
22:37 Octupus bucket_lava*
22:37 Octupus np
22:37 * VanessaE looks at the weather report for her area for tomorrow..   Weeeee're  gonna get hhhhhaaaaammmmmeeerrrreeeddd....
22:38 Uberi VanessaE: we're just going to freeze to death slowly and painfully
22:38 Octupus :O
22:38 VanessaE heh
22:38 VanessaE where are you again?
22:38 VanessaE (Blue Ridge Mountains, North Carolina for me)
22:39 Uberi VanessaE: southern Ontario, Canada :P
22:39 VanessaE dayum
22:39 Uberi it's even colder as you go north
22:39 VanessaE sucks to be you :)
22:39 Menche darn, is a pentium 4 now too slow for minetest?
22:39 VanessaE could be worse though..
22:40 Octupus Menche,lots of ppl gonna join your server
22:40 VanessaE Octupus: *Now* you can sign on.  it took forever for you to time out
22:40 Menche Octupus: oh dear
22:40 VanessaE Menche: for now, a P4 is too slow, but that should be remedied soon
22:40 VanessaE (right now, you need a supercomputer ;) )
22:41 Menche VanessaE: right before the stable 0.4.0 release, my Atom netbook ran it just fine
22:41 Octupus Ya ik Vanessa It was dangerously long :P
22:41 Octupus Menche,i ment it in a good way
22:41 VanessaE Menche: not anymore, your laptop will melt :)
22:41 Uberi btw, Menche: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=922 and https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/103
22:42 Menche pleeeaaase don't obsolete all of my spare computers
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22:43 VanessaE Menche: the intent is not to do so.  this is just due to some bugs
22:43 Menche i have a core i5, but that's a laptop that i carry around a lot
22:49 Octupus Hey every1 shud i enable particles?
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22:50 Menche I like them
22:51 VanessaE I use in-client particles plus the particles mod on my server.  they work well together.
22:52 Menche the problem with that is, clients can't disable the particles mod
22:52 Menche enabling particles would probably make minetest on my netbook look like a slideshow
22:53 VanessaE particles don't really eat much CPU
22:53 VanessaE at least, *digging* particles don't..
22:53 Menche i'm lucky to get ~20FPS on my netbook with graphics settings at their absolute lowest
22:53 VanessaE smoke particles in my latest version of sfan5's particles mod kinda does though...
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22:53 VanessaE (because entities are slow)
22:53 Menche it drops when I try to do anything
22:54 Menche Is there any plans for client-side support in mods? A mod I'm planning will use marker guides for area selection, and it would be nice if everyone wouldn't have to see one player's guides
22:57 VanessaE there has been some talk of it.
22:57 VanessaE more client-side particles would be nice.
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22:58 VanessaE hey hey cisoun  :-)
23:02 cisoun sup
23:03 VanessaE not much
23:03 cisoun Why ?
23:03 cisoun You've lost your mese pickaxe ?
23:03 VanessaE because  http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4394  and  http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2155
23:03 VanessaE :-)
23:04 cisoun Ah this !
23:04 VanessaE hehe
23:04 cisoun Yeah I saw the Trees mod.
23:04 cisoun Nice work, really !
23:04 VanessaE thanks
23:04 cisoun I gave up about the conifer mod.
23:05 VanessaE RealBadAngel is working on a trees framework which is gonna be installed into moretrees, so it'll have something like 10 types of trees, all biome-limited.
23:05 cisoun Wow !
23:06 cisoun Good thing !
23:09 init VanessaE: the problem of the stuff isn't the CPU
23:09 init is the GPU
23:12 * Menche likes dizzyone's quit message
23:13 babyface1031 what could be causeing this http://i.imgur.com/nAz44.png
23:18 Octupus VanessaE,Can you comment or Menche ^
23:18 Menche Octupus: on what?
23:18 Octupus The link babyface1031  gave
23:18 VanessaE Octupus: texture atlas.
23:18 Octupus because i am having that problem
23:18 Menche I've never seen that problem before, sorry
23:18 VanessaE enable_texture_atlas = false      <---- put that in your minetest.conf
23:19 Octupus how do i fix that?
23:19 Menche or /set enable_texture_atlas 0
23:19 Octupus :O thank you
23:19 Menche in-game
23:19 VanessaE Menche: I doubt that'll work in-game, texture atlas is populated at the start of the game
23:20 VanessaE Octupus: best guess anyway
23:20 Menche I change settings in-game then restart it, it's more efficient than opening another editor
23:20 babyface1031 so just put that in the minetest.conf folder anywhere
23:20 VanessaE babyface1031: minetest.conf is a file, inside your minetest folder.  but yeah, anywhere in the file is file, e.g. the bottom
23:21 Menche minetest.conf is a file, it should be in the same folder as the other minetest stuff
23:21 kaeza nice! my lava suit works!!
23:21 init how kaeza? :P
23:22 kaeza It's a suit that lets you swim in lava with no damage :P
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23:23 Uberi neat, how?
23:23 init ^
23:23 kaeza provided you have energy to power the suit
23:24 Octupus thanks i think its gonna work
23:24 kaeza Uberi, it keeps track of players' hp, and if the player receives damage while in lava, it resets the hp to the previous value
23:24 kaeza it's not perfect, but it works!!
23:25 Uberi kaeza: wait, so you are invulnerable in lava?
23:25 kaeza Uberi, init: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/minetest/mods/Kaeza-lavasuit-0.1.0.zip
23:25 kaeza Uberi, yes
23:25 Uberi :/
23:25 kaeza that's a side-effect
23:26 Uberi so if you fall 10000 blocks into lava, nothing happens...
23:26 kaeza (as long as you have energy in the suit)
23:26 Uberi if another player attacks you, just go into lava and you won't even take damage
23:26 kaeza Uberi, it updates every half a second, so that's not possible
23:27 kaeza the textures are also ugly as ass
23:27 kaeza lol
23:28 kaeza Uberi, also, by falling 10000 blocks into lava, you get no damage from the fall, even without the suit
23:29 kaeza that's because of how the game implements liquids
23:29 kaeza (moving in liquids)
23:29 marktraceur This is relatively accurate though
23:30 Uberi but lava is incompressible
23:30 marktraceur I mean, *as* accurate as would be falling 10KM into water and having no damage
23:30 marktraceur Wait, is lava a non-newtonian fluid?
23:30 Uberi and not to mention burning at a cool 900 degrees centigrade
23:30 Uberi marktraceur: depends on if it has suspended rock dust in it
23:30 marktraceur So....pretty likely
23:30 Uberi yeah
23:31 Uberi but then again who wants silly putty at 900 degrees
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23:31 Kacey hello
23:31 Menche hi
23:32 Octupus Hi Kacey
23:32 Kacey Menche: did you read my post about moving my castle?
23:32 Kacey hi octu
23:32 Menche yeah
23:32 Kacey i have no idea what the coords ar
23:32 Kacey are, even
23:32 * Menche dreads using worldedit on his pentium 4 server
23:32 init kaeza: what about making it depend of "armor" and having to use it as chestplate?
23:33 init well, chestplate or anything a
23:33 init a full lava suit should block the entire damage, just some "small parts" only a bit!
23:33 kaeza Uberi, you'll be surprised of the amount of minerals you can find in lava lakes.
23:34 kaeza init, nice idea
23:34 Kacey i need to figure out how to clear a lava lake
23:34 marktraceur kaeza: Can you see through the lava if you're in the suit, too?
23:34 kaeza Uberi, also, if you don't like it, don't use it. Simple1
23:34 init maybe 4 mese crystal + bucket of lava == "Lava Blocker"  and an armor of Lava blockers? no idea
23:34 init 1 mese seems "expensive"
23:35 init err, 4 fragment*
23:35 Octupus i just had an idea
23:35 Octupus MC uses armour so why doesnt mt use clothing?
23:35 * Menche has been reminded of the mese changes and has become slightly more irritable
23:36 Menche someone made an armor mod that attaches a larger entity to a player
23:36 sema4 glad i don't know what mese is yet, then when i can like 'new mese' by default.
23:36 Menche really clever
23:36 Octupus xD
23:37 Uberi whoa Menche got a link?
23:37 Menche i forget where exactly, search the mod forums
23:37 Kacey http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4420
23:37 kaeza marktraceur, as far as the red tint lets you see
23:37 Kacey 3d armor mod
23:37 Menche ya thats it :D
23:38 kaeza init, the suit never breaks
23:38 Octupus yes ik about the armour
23:38 Kacey lol i was looking it up
23:38 kaeza and you need three lava buckets to get energy
23:38 Uberi sweet
23:38 init kaeza: but if you run out of "energy" > die
23:38 Menche i am assuming that the suit takes the damage, and you can hurt the player if you hit in the head or legs?
23:38 Octupus but minetest can be different from MC that why i say we shud us clothing instead of armour that gives protection
23:38 init well, die doesn't mean losing the inv
23:40 Menche if so, this armor is awesomely better than MC armor
23:43 init well, can someone code the lua_hook/whatever for the playing taking damage? :P
23:43 Kacey maybe celeron55 and some devs could work out how to make 3rd person view possible...
23:44 Menche yeah, I hadn't seen the 3d player for a while before i was on my server yesterday
23:44 erlehmann init, then cacti could work!
23:44 Kacey haha
23:44 * marktraceur thinks step 0 in further engineering efforts for Minetest is the documentation sprint this weekend, enabling more casual hacking
23:44 erlehmann Kacey, I made a mod once to clear lava. obsidian.
23:45 erlehmann I can fix it so it works on current minetest \o/
23:45 Menche erlehmann: you could just make cactus a bit smaller and add a damage=value to it
23:45 erlehmann ima gonna fix obsidian
23:45 init marktraceur: ++
23:45 NakedFury step 1 would then be bug extermination
23:45 NakedFury step 2 add more stuff
23:46 mauvebic step1 +1000
23:46 marktraceur NakedFury: It would be useful to work on bugs, but also useful to continue work on the infrastructure
23:46 NakedFury after step 0 and 1 we can talk about adding core features
23:46 Kacey marktraceur: irc or what?
23:46 marktraceur NakedFury: After docs are up, it might be good to split a few tasks off to be more manageable
23:47 Menche if it's a bug that makes minetest require more processing power, that must be fixed
23:47 marktraceur Kacey: I'm thinking bug tracking and triaging, regular(ish) events to drive development, and some work on the modding system (like package management, for example)
23:47 Menche my pentium 4 lags :(
23:47 mauvebic mine too and i changed the gfx card less than a year ago lol
23:47 Kacey marktraceur: can i be the test monkey?
23:48 marktraceur Kacey: For what, the documentation?
23:48 Kacey to find bugs and that
23:48 marktraceur Oh
23:48 Uberi look at all these open issues
23:48 Uberi half of them are just feature requests
23:48 NakedFury we are all test monkey for minetest
23:48 marktraceur Kacey: If you play the game regularly, and report bugs you find, you already are a test monkey :)
23:49 mauvebic at least 3 issues that seem to be the same thing too lol
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23:49 marktraceur Then start closing and tagging them!
23:50 mauvebic you usually dont close issues until they're fixed, no matter how long?
23:50 marktraceur mauvebic: If three issues are the same, they should be closed as duplicates.
23:50 marktraceur mauvebic: One left open, of course.
23:51 marktraceur mauvebic: If a report is a request for a mod, close it as invalid, and link the person to the mod requests forum.
23:51 marktraceur Alternatively, file it as a bug against minetest_game.
23:51 Uberi marktraceur: I think only the repo collabs can close issues
23:51 marktraceur Oh.
23:51 mauvebic id assume the grunt work would be taken on before the secretarial work :P
23:51 marktraceur Well, then VanessaE should hop on this!
23:51 marktraceur Maybe PilzAdam also has some ability.
23:52 VanessaE huh?
23:52 marktraceur VanessaE: Can you and others with admin on the github repo try to triage bugs in the near future? Maybe with help from some of us?
23:52 mauvebic 128,214 and 229 according to pa
23:52 VanessaE marktraceur: I don't have access to the minetest repo.
23:53 marktraceur Oh, hm
23:53 marktraceur VanessaE: Who does?
23:53 mauvebic the shadow people
23:53 VanessaE marktraceur: thexyz, pilzadam, darkrose
23:53 VanessaE and at least one other who I can't remember.
23:54 Uberi celeron55, maybe? :P
23:54 NakedFury sfan?
23:54 marktraceur Ooh, darkrose, perfect
23:54 marktraceur Someone I can bend to my^W^W^Wask for help
23:55 mauvebic shuffling the bugs around dont get anything fixed though, it just *looks* like activity
23:55 marktraceur mauvebic: It's important to triage bugs so we can e.g. assign new people to easy ones
23:55 marktraceur "hey here's this great project with awesome documentation and you should contribute" won't mean anything if there aren't any easy bugs
23:56 kaeza lol I just got that silly^Wnice joke
23:56 mauvebic its all creative inertia if no one is actually taking them on lol
23:56 marktraceur kaeza: :)
23:56 marktraceur mauvebic: Exactly. Lowering the bar for people is priority one for me right now.
23:57 Uberi marktraceur: there are some pretty infeasible feature requests in there, should be pretty easy to bring it down to about 90 open issues
23:57 marktraceur Uberi: We'll see
23:57 marktraceur Uberi: Again, my first thing is the doc sprint
23:57 Uberi of course
23:57 mauvebic true, might help to reduce our churn rate too :p
23:57 marktraceur Uberi: Maybe next week sometime for bug triage
23:58 marktraceur Uberi: If I can get interest up for a code sprint we may be able to close some bugs
23:58 Uberi a code sprint? might be a bit of a stretch
23:58 marktraceur I am stubbornly optimistic about the idea
23:59 marktraceur But it's at least two, maybe three weeks down the road
23:59 mauvebic you do cpp?
23:59 marktraceur mauvebic: In and out, yeah

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