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00:05 NekoGloop Does anyone have any thoughts on the above images?
00:05 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZ3pncw and http://ompldr.org/vZ3pncQ for the lazuy
00:05 NekoGloop lazy*
00:08 jeffrash What's the item number for Cobblestone?
00:08 jeffrash I can't find a list of numbers anywhere
00:08 NekoGloop minecraft n00b detected
00:08 jeffrash :)
00:08 marktraceur NekoGloop: Be nice
00:08 marktraceur jeffrash: What is an "item number"?
00:09 NekoGloop marktraceur: the way minecraft indexes items and blocks
00:09 NekoGloop each has a unique ID
00:09 jeffrash right
00:09 NekoGloop 0 is air, 1 is stone, etc.
00:09 NekoGloop jeffrash: that aint how it works round here
00:09 NekoGloop each item has a human-readable (usually) ID.
00:09 jeffrash right, that's what I thought too
00:10 NekoGloop for cobblestone it would be default:cobble
00:10 jeffrash cobble
00:10 jeffrash I see, the /giveme cobblestone 99 isn't working
00:10 jeffrash so it's cobble
00:10 NekoGloop nonono
00:11 marktraceur jeffrash: We used to have numbers per-node, but since we enabled mods, it's impossible to know which nodes will and will not be there. Minetest can theoretically run with very few nodes.
00:11 NekoGloop you need to add the default: part as well
00:11 jeffrash that worked
00:11 marktraceur Or zero nodes, maybe.
00:11 NekoGloop marktraceur: in theory, yes.
00:11 NekoGloop actually no.
00:11 * marktraceur will try that later
00:11 NekoGloop because air and unknown_block will always register.
00:11 marktraceur Well yeah.
00:11 jeffrash ok, /giveme cobble 99 works
00:11 jeffrash thanks
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00:17 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZ3poNg Hammer and Handsaw side-by-side. Comment/like/hate/rage at will.
00:17 Kacey cool
00:18 kaeza NekoGloop: +65536
00:19 NekoGloop FFFF
00:19 NekoGloop :D
00:19 kaeza :P
00:19 kaeza err.. wrong
00:19 kaeza 0xFFFF is 65535
00:19 kaeza 65536 is 0x10000
00:19 NekoGloop ok fine
00:22 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZ3poYg handsaw redone
00:23 marktraceur NekoGloop: Licensing?
00:23 NekoGloop CC-BY-SA, they are for glooptest.
00:23 marktraceur Hm.
00:23 * marktraceur may use these in the future
00:24 marktraceur NekoGloop: What they do?
00:24 NekoGloop Handsaw is for breaking "snappy" or "fleshy"
00:25 NekoGloop Hammer is for breaking "bendy" or "cracky". Cracky is much slower than with a pickaxe.
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00:28 Kacey i had an idea
00:28 marktraceur NekoGloop: Do you think it might be useful to have a hammer that built things? Like, you use a hammer on a "pile of wood" node and come out with a table?
00:29 NekoGloop marktraceur: There will be a "tools packet" which will be used on a table to make it into a craftsman's table, which has a 5x5 crafting inventory.
00:29 marktraceur Cool.
00:29 kaeza STOP!
00:29 NekoGloop This tools packet will be made from a steel handsaw, steel hammer, and steel axe.
00:30 kaeza HAMMER TIME!
00:30 kaeza :P
00:30 NekoGloop kaeza: I would make them throwable 'cept entities arent my thing
00:30 OldCoder NEWS: Shutting down worlds to try latest MT core
00:30 Kacey anyone here good with mesecons
00:31 kaeza Kacey: that depends
00:31 kaeza and hi!
00:31 Kacey hi!
00:32 Kacey anyone want to help make a computer with mesecons by making a component?
00:33 kaeza Kacey: good using mesecons or with the API?
00:33 Kacey mesecons in-game
00:33 NekoGloop I'd prolly understand the api should i take time to actually look at it
00:34 kaeza Kacey: a computer made in mesecons would prolly be a 500x500 mammoth
00:34 Kacey but it would be a funn project
00:35 NekoGloop that's better than with redstone, which takes up more than what can possibly be loaded in vanilla singleplayer :P
00:35 NekoGloop and all that thing is is a giant calculator.
00:35 kaeza now if someone would implement data buses based in the mesecons concept...
00:37 Kacey kaeza:maybe we could do that
00:39 kaeza Kacey: maybe
00:39 Kacey would it need textures?
00:40 kaeza the textures are unimportant
00:40 kaeza the most important thing is to get the actual code working
00:40 kaeza I don't feel like it today
00:40 Kacey alright
00:41 NekoGloop use metadate
00:41 kaeza I had a very very bad day
00:41 NekoGloop metadata even
00:41 NekoGloop "spreading" metadata is easy to implement.
00:42 NekoGloop the only problem then is how you discern one input from the next.
00:42 kaeza NekoGloop: one of the problems is to which data give priority if two buses with diff data are cunnected
00:42 kaeza connected*
00:42 kaeza lol
00:43 kaeza or just mark the entire bus as invalid
00:43 NekoGloop easy
00:43 NekoGloop the "on" one takes priority.
00:44 Kacey what about a "T" junction?
00:44 kaeza NekoGloop: I mean to transport *actual* data
00:44 kaeza not an on/off state
00:44 NekoGloop or if you mean two different signals, i.e. one named "bob" and the other "bill", then it would simply carry both.
00:44 NekoGloop kaeza: pfft, gl with that one.
00:45 NekoGloop wooden handsaws / hammers: yes or no?
00:46 kaeza yes
00:47 Kacey yes
00:47 Kacey omg... 5 to 32 decoder
00:49 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZ3podg wooden handsaw
00:50 NekoGloop it looks appropriately wimpy
00:51 marktraceur Dogzilla131: Did you figure out whose server you were playing on?
00:52 NekoGloop marktraceur: opinion on the above texture for wooden handsaws?
00:53 kaeza NekoGloop: that's a good one. gives the right impression of fragility
00:53 Dogzilla131 yes
00:54 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZ3poeg and wooden hammer, kaeza.
00:54 kaeza ditto for that one
00:55 kaeza hmm
00:55 Kacey so who would be interested in the computer idea?
00:55 kaeza maybe you should remove some pixels from the top
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00:56 NekoGloop kaeza: i thought that made it look more like sticks wrapped around a wooden cylinder :?
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00:56 NekoGloop give it a bit of ornate-ness.
00:56 kaeza hmm, you may be right
00:56 kaeza s/may be/are
00:57 NekoGloop anyway, I'll use that hammer base for stone as well.
00:59 * Kacey wants more fudge
00:59 marktraceur NekoGloop: ++
00:59 NekoGloop marktraceur: could you be more specific
00:59 NekoGloop i.e. what are you approving.
01:00 marktraceur NekoGloop: The wooden handsaw texture
01:01 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caAGyHayvaY perfect music for texturing :D
01:01 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: English Cover?JubyPhonic P?Hide And Seek ???? - YouTube
01:02 marktraceur NekoGloop: You post that video.....very often
01:02 NekoGloop indeed.
01:02 marktraceur NekoGloop: I'm not sure you realize how often, actually
01:03 NekoGloop inb4 +q
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01:04 OldCoder Back soon
01:04 OldCoder NEWS Engine updated. Please try the worlds and tell me. Are they fast or slow.
01:04 marktraceur NekoGloop: I'm not going to quiet you, but I'd appreciate you posting something once or (maybe) twice, not fifteen times in a week.
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01:05 scienceandhorror !up rarkenindyn.mooo.com
01:05 Minetest-tan scienceandhorror: rarkenindyn.mooo.com is up (0.563ms)
01:05 moltenbot Minetest server rarkenindyn.mooo.com:30000 UP
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01:06 kaeza marktraceur: I need some ideas: I am trying to test if the IRC bot reconnects in case of ping timeout, but the connection has been good lately. I thought about hacking LuaIRC to not send the "PONG" back in response to a ping, thus faking a timeout, but as I've been pointed, it may take a few mins to timeout (~5 mins). any ideas of other ways to test it?
01:06 marktraceur kaeza: Run a local server that only waits 200ms for a timeout?
01:06 kaeza hmm
01:06 kaeza oh lol
01:07 kaeza forgot I had an IRC server
01:07 kaeza sowwy, bad memory
01:07 * marktraceur hands kaeza the "Obvious advice on IRC" badge
01:07 kaeza ;P
01:07 marktraceur kaeza: Don't worry, everyone has it
01:09 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od6EYRrdYUU
01:09 moltenbot Kacey's link: Rooster Teeth Animated Adventure An Internet Conversation - YouTube
01:16 kaeza Kacey: http://5z8.info/banned-in-the-US_a2q1xe_twitterhack
01:17 sokomine question: sometimes clicking in the inventory of chests or in the formspec exchanges one item with another. in such a case what is called? on_inventory_move or take+put?
01:17 sokomine and: hi :-)
01:17 kaeza hey
01:23 VanessaE *sniffle*  hi all  *cough*
01:23 sokomine cought a cold?
01:23 Zetetic Ah, that's who I got it from
01:23 VanessaE yeah :-/
01:23 kaeza hey V. got a cold? :/
01:23 Zetetic They warned me abotu computer viruses...
01:24 sokomine maybe you got mine then. i just had a nasty one :-(
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01:24 VanessaE when I get better, I'm gonna kick my contractor's ass I swear to G*d....
01:24 * sokomine offers vanessa and zetetic some handkerchieves or how they are spelled
01:24 Zetetic Thanks :)
01:24 marktraceur cheives, methinks
01:24 Zetetic "hankies"
01:24 sokomine poor contractor
01:24 sokomine ah, thanks :-)
01:25 marktraceur VanessaE: What did your contractor do?
01:25 VanessaE marktraceur: gave Abe and I his cold >:-(
01:25 marktraceur Ah
01:25 marktraceur So it's related to the previous topic
01:28 VanessaE so...how about them nodeboxes? :-)
01:28 VanessaE (translation, sorry for grinding whatever the current convo to a halt :) )
01:28 marktraceur How bout them Packers?
01:32 Kacey dinner
01:32 VanessaE what's for dinner?
01:33 marktraceur VanessaE: Beef
01:33 VanessaE heh
01:33 marktraceur Hmm....I may not have been lying
01:33 marktraceur There's some tasty sandwich place pretty near the office....I may need to go AFK for a bit
01:34 VanessaE sautéed bologna and eggs :-)
01:34 VanessaE (tastes somewhat like bacon and eggs.  because I was too lazy to make anything more supper-ish)
01:34 marktraceur Brinner! Yay!
01:35 VanessaE marktraceur: grab me a Black Forest ham on Italian herbs and cheese, foot long plz.
01:35 VanessaE :)
01:35 VanessaE (in my mind, "tasty sandwich place" translates to Subway :-) )
01:36 sokomine sandwiches are strange things
01:36 * sokomine eyes them suspiciously
01:36 marktraceur VanessaE: Oh no, not even. The Toaster Oven is the name of the place.
01:36 sokomine (at least there's no danger that we ever may starve in this channel :-))
01:37 VanessaE sokomine: you haven's had a Schlotzky's classic double on sourdough. :-)
01:37 sokomine no-one has any idea to my question?
01:37 VanessaE marktraceur: mmmmmmm...sounds good
01:37 marktraceur There is, however, a subway. Hm, my choice becomes more complicated.
01:37 VanessaE lol
01:37 NekoGloop Amazingly i went afk for half an hour and it's humanly possible to read the chat backlog
01:37 marktraceur sokomine: I'd imagine it's just on_inventory_move, but I'm not sure.
01:38 marktraceur sokomine: You're probably more able to test than I! :)
01:38 NekoGloop back to texturing i go
01:38 sokomine well...i hope it'll work out somehow
01:40 sokomine there wasn't a function that returns true if one element is contained in an array?
01:40 VanessaE substring search against a dump() of the array :-)
01:40 NekoGloop if array[element] ~= nil
01:40 marktraceur VanessaE: But what about type safety!?
01:40 VanessaE (yeah, I do stuff the hard way :D )
01:41 OldCoder VanessaE, NekoGloop, marktraceur I merged upstream with my branch
01:41 marktraceur sokomine: You can pretty easily implement it, and I'm sure Lua has some nice interfaces for basic search algorithms as well
01:41 OldCoder May be all set now
01:41 marktraceur OldCoder: Gratz
01:41 VanessaE OldCoder: did you get past that L-system error?
01:41 OldCoder VanessaE, I think so
01:41 OldCoder VanessaE, I logged in as the person who was crashing and did not crash
01:41 OldCoder But the worlds need testing
01:41 mauvebic ugh, same code, different modnames, one works, one doesn't :/
01:42 OldCoder VanessaE, you wish to build LevelDB see me soon
01:42 VanessaE OldCoder: you need to write a function to manually spawn a tree, or use one of the code snippets I posted.
01:42 OldCoder My branch has a variety of features
01:42 OldCoder VanessaE, Hmm? I think it seems to work now
01:42 VanessaE OldCoder, try this:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=61295#p61295
01:42 OldCoder R
01:42 sokomine they're strings
01:42 * NekoGloop finished hammer textures for moreores :D
01:42 VanessaE (make a mod out of it, substitute any nodes and textures you want, and see if it crashes your server when used)
01:43 OldCoder VanessaE, perhaps sometime... I went from low MT time for a couple of weeks to a lot recently
01:43 OldCoder Need to catch up in a number of areas
01:43 VanessaE marktraceur: type safety?  safety!?  pussy.  Real coders write their own error trapping routines...in assembly.... with a machine code monitor.
01:43 VanessaE :-)
01:43 OldCoder VanessaE, see me soon regarding my branch if you wish to build it
01:44 OldCoder Has LevelDB upstream and everything else
01:44 VanessaE nice
01:44 marktraceur VanessaE: The only types in *my* language are 1 and 0.
01:44 VanessaE 1 and 0?  you're lucky.  All I had growing up were 0's.  We had to smash them with a hammer to make them look like 1's.  AND WE WERE HAPPY!
01:44 VanessaE :)
01:46 sokomine ,-)
01:49 NekoGloop so are Vanessa's textures upstream yet so i can make my blocks look better
01:50 NekoGloop DDDDDDDDDDDDD:
01:50 NekoGloop fuck they arent.
01:51 VanessaE NekoGloop: of course not.  as usual, pilzadam is dragging his feet.
01:51 VanessaE :-/
01:52 NekoGloop In the meantime have some handsaws http://ompldr.org/vZ3ppZg
01:52 * mauvebic gives up
01:52 VanessaE they look like...feathers :-)
01:52 VanessaE mauvebic: eh?
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01:53 NekoGloop VanessaE: ingame they're supposed to somewhat look like an actual handsaw, what with the teeth of the saw
01:53 mauvebic im trying to take liquids of out my copy of pipeworks and make a seperate mod (just the liquid defs and recipes) and it dont work :( lol
01:53 VanessaE mauvebic: no worries, just take a break for a while
01:54 mauvebic its really weird
01:54 mauvebic same code
01:54 mauvebic pipeworks:beer_source no problem
01:54 mauvebic fluid:beer_source : not allow to place CONTENT_IGNORE lol
01:54 NekoGloop you need to change the modnames in the nodedef as well
01:54 mauvebic i did that
01:54 VanessaE did you use a leading colon?
01:55 VanessaE in the register_node() call I mean
01:55 mauvebic no it was fluid:beer
01:55 mauvebic fluid:beer_source
01:55 VanessaE try :fluid:beer_source etc
01:55 mauvebic you usually use a leading colon when your adding nodes to another mod no?
01:55 VanessaE the leading colon is needed if the real mod name doesn't match the mod name you're using in the node.
01:55 mauvebic not even :pipeworks:beer_source worked as defined from another file/folder
01:56 mauvebic oh no the folders and mod names matched
01:56 mauvebic the code was the same
01:56 VanessaE no idea then :)
01:56 mauvebic i tried flib after
01:56 mauvebic still nada lol
01:57 VanessaE you'll figure it out.  you always do. :-)
01:57 mauvebic its like the flowing node isn't registering
01:57 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZ3ppag And here's some hammers :DDDD
01:58 marktraceur I'd hammer in the evening, all across this laaaaand
01:58 mauvebic so thats where im at, im stuck with wine/beer/cement/plasma from within pipeworks lol
01:58 NekoGloop marktraceur: eh?
01:58 babyface1031 OldCoder: are you on?
01:59 NekoGloop he's always on, the question is if there's someone behind the monitor.
01:59 babyface1031 true
01:59 VanessaE mauvebic: can you please pull pipeworks git master and re-apply your changes *without reformatting the whole damn mod's coding style* btw? :-)
01:59 mauvebic that would mean rewriting the whole thing
01:59 VanessaE possibly :)
01:59 mauvebic wouldn't it be easier to split the parts i didn't change and dofile my bit?
02:00 VanessaE er
02:00 VanessaE that's what I was doing before ;)
02:00 NekoGloop now to actually code these suckers.
02:01 VanessaE NekoGloop: also, regarding saws...  each "tooth" has a one-pixel extension to the left.  try removing those pixels - make the teeth look "square"
02:01 VanessaE they'll look less like feathers then :)
02:01 NekoGloop VanessaE: they arent supposed to be square ;)
02:01 babyface1031 anyone tell me where to find the update to 0.4.4 that is on OldCoder server
02:02 NekoGloop on github
02:02 VanessaE mauvebic: my point is I've got almost 1000 lines worth of patch here between your fork and my master repo when there's probably only 200-300 lines worth of actual new code. :-)
02:02 VanessaE almost 1100 I mean
02:04 Kacey back
02:04 VanessaE wb
02:04 NekoGloop erm...
02:04 NekoGloop 'bout dem crafting recipes...
02:04 NekoGloop :)
02:05 NekoGloop anyone got ideas for handsaw and hammer recipes? :D
02:06 VanessaE NekoGloop: time for a 4x4 workbench :-)
02:06 mauvebic http://www.zimg.eu/i/3749072018
02:06 NekoGloop VanessaE: lolno
02:06 NekoGloop M S
02:06 NekoGloop I was thinking:
02:06 NekoGloop M S
02:06 NekoGloop - S
02:06 NekoGloop for handsaw
02:06 NekoGloop M S M
02:06 NekoGloop M S M
02:06 NekoGloop - S -
02:06 NekoGloop for hammer.
02:08 marktraceur Time for multiple crafting recipes
02:08 marktraceur e.g. craft the head of the hammer, then the handle, then put them together
02:08 NekoGloop lol no
02:08 Kacey 5x5 crafting table
02:09 NakedFury blacksmith style
02:09 NekoGloop I think imma stay with those recipes.
02:11 NekoGloop NOTE: both the tools_module and ore_module contain set_tool_recipe methods. They are interchangeable.
02:13 NakedFury mauvebic are you gonna add death from intoxication and extremely blurry vision?
02:17 mauvebic right now im trying to figure out why the same code with different modnames is giving varying results lol
02:19 mauvebic oh look, liquids:beer_source does work lol
02:20 mauvebic good enuff
02:20 mauvebic lol
02:22 NakedFury just changing the name and not code gives weird stuff
02:23 NakedFury I tried doing that with buckets and just didnt work out
02:23 mauvebic with me its liquids
02:23 mauvebic its like the flowing nodes dont register depending on the modname lol
02:24 NakedFury I tried wood buckets and the texture kept changing back to default
02:24 mauvebic did you change the texture name?
02:24 mauvebic if the other bucket mod is loading after it could be overwritting your texture
02:24 NakedFury new textures of a wood buckets too
02:25 NakedFury I tried adding a wood water buckets and a copper bucket
02:26 mauvebic anyways i wont be adding drunkeness with the liquids its just another way of crafting items w/o the grid
02:28 NekoGloop my modpack will add enough of that ;-)
02:30 VanessaE mauvebic: of your latest code, how much of this exists outside of flowing_logic.lua?  I'm having a hell of a time reading patch because of all the extraneous changes :)
02:30 VanessaE +the
02:30 mauvebic thats weird, i removed the dependency to pipeworks and now the liquids do flow, but theres nothing in pipeworks to affect them :/
02:31 OldCoder Hi
02:31 OldCoder babyface1031, Hi
02:31 OldCoder babyface1031, What do you need?
02:31 NekoGloop tools_module will add a shorthand for registering tools, similar to ore_module
02:31 OldCoder babyface1031, The server sources?
02:31 OldCoder babyface1031, Yes I am here mostly
02:31 babyface1031 yeah
02:32 babyface1031 and i didnt see rba on and i cant use the furnace i get an error
02:32 babyface1031 the error is with the textures
02:32 OldCoder babyface1031, Go on
02:32 mauvebic ah ha, i changed the depency to something else, liquid stops flowing
02:32 OldCoder Suggested fix?
02:33 Oblivion1500 oh yea are you talking about marks server?
02:33 babyface1031 no i am on octuteam server
02:33 mauvebic i have a feeling liquids aren't registering if a mod depends on anything other than default
02:33 babyface1031 i am getting the error now
02:33 Oblivion1500 because thats the same thing there, not the reg funice right the other one using the tech mod
02:34 mauvebic anyways bbl, gonna have a real beer and figure this out lol
02:34 babyface1031 ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "technic_electric_furnace_GUI.png" while building texture
02:35 babyface1031 ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "technic_electric_furnace_GUI.png"
02:35 Oblivion1500 yep its the same thing on marks server OldCoder
02:36 babyface1031 i am also getting errors with glooptest
02:36 NekoGloop go figure :P
02:36 NekoGloop randomly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pes_svWSnC0
02:36 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: ??????????Daughter of Evil ????UTAU???? - YouTube
02:36 NekoGloop babyface1031: mind telling me more?
02:36 babyface1031 are those yours NekoGloop i
02:36 babyface1031 i am copying the errors now
02:37 babyface1031 ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "glooptest_tool_alatroaxe.png" while building texture
02:37 Oblivion1500 i think its a server round glitch maybe something to do with the tech and mese mod depends
02:37 babyface1031 ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "glooptest_tool_arolaxe.png" while building texture
02:37 NekoGloop yup, OC broke something ;)
02:37 babyface1031 there is more of the same
02:37 Oblivion1500 lol trying to put something nice in you should add
02:37 NekoGloop he must have forgotten the actual IMAGES
02:38 NekoGloop shame on you OldCoder ;-)
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02:42 VanessaE bbl
02:50 OldCoder neko259, ?
02:50 OldCoder NekoGloop, ?!
02:50 OldCoder It is YOUR mode
02:50 OldCoder It is YOUR mod *
02:50 OldCoder Give us an updated version please
02:50 NekoGloop OldCoder: yet my version doesnt lack the images
02:50 OldCoder With the images
02:50 NekoGloop neither does the one on github
02:50 OldCoder I made this using a link you gave me IIRC
02:50 NekoGloop *YOU* screwed something up :P
02:51 OldCoder I will check now
02:51 OldCoder om
02:51 NekoGloop either that or the download didnt like it
02:51 OldCoder Wait
02:51 NekoGloop just pull from github and turn off the parts_module if you dont want it
02:52 babyface1031 it seems like with glooptest it is just the alatro and arol tools the other tools are fine
02:54 OldCoder NekoGloop, the images are there
02:54 OldCoder They have gloopores_ prefixes
02:54 OldCoder Is that the issue?
02:54 OldCoder Name an image that is broken please
02:54 OldCoder babyface1031, NekoGloop ^
02:55 babyface1031 ok hold on i will get them all
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02:56 babyface1031 glooptest_tool_alatroaxe.png, glooptest_tool_arolaxe.png, glooptest_tool_alatropick.png, glooptest_tool_arolpick.png, glooptest_tool_alatroshovel.png, glooptest_tool_arolshovel.png, glooptest_tool_alatrosword.png, glooptest_tool_arolsword.png
02:57 Kacey night all
03:00 NekoGloop ah.
03:00 NekoGloop well it works in the github version so use that ;)
03:03 NekoGloop which for the forum-diving impaired is: https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/archive/master.zip
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03:15 OldCoder NekoGloop, babyface1031 I will try updating to that shortly
03:15 OldCoder In meetings ATM
03:16 babyface1031 ok thats fine i just wanted to tell you
03:23 OldCoder babyface1031, I am grateful
03:41 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62192#p62192 uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupdaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate~~~~
03:41 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: [ModPack][0.0.3] GloopTest Pack! [glooptest] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
03:42 VanessaE back
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03:47 * VanessaE puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head
03:47 * NekoGloop purrs :3
03:54 * VanessaE offers Colby/Monterey Jack cheese + roasted almonds
03:54 NekoGloop Meh.
03:59 babyface1031 i belive this problem is me but how can i fix it: when i look one way my fps drops and the drawtime jumps up
03:59 VanessaE you can't, that's normal.
03:59 VanessaE that's just the engine deciding that there's more to be drawn when you look one way vs. another
04:00 VanessaE you can turn your view range down (+/-)
04:00 babyface1031 ok :(
04:00 VanessaE that's about it
04:00 babyface1031 it is all the way down already
04:01 VanessaE video driver issue?
04:02 babyface1031 idk it didnt happen till i upgraded to 0.4.4
04:02 babyface1031 but i still need to upgrade the one i have
04:02 VanessaE wish I had a better answer :-/
04:02 babyface1031 it ok
04:06 NekoGloop Turn off shaders.
04:06 VanessaE shaders cost me ~5fps on my badass video card.  sad, no? :-/
04:07 NekoGloop lol
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04:08 babyface1031 how i turn off shaders?
04:08 VanessaE Main Menu, Settings tab
04:09 VanessaE there's a checkbox for it
04:09 Muadtralk enable_shaders = 0 in the conf
04:09 Muadtralk :P
04:10 babyface1031 ok ty
04:47 VanessaE night all
04:47 NekoGloop night vanessa
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06:13 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/409#issuecomment-11969820
06:13 moltenbot Calinou's link: Fix glitch ladders by Calinou ? Pull Request #409 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
06:13 * Calinou facepalmed to a crisp
06:14 Calinou 1) why 2 more tabs?
06:14 Calinou 2) why should I redo everything again for the third time?
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06:18 RagnarLaud hi
06:19 RagnarLaud SpeedFrom hi
06:19 RagnarLaud hi
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06:19 RagnarLaud Celeron55
06:19 RagnarLaud i need help
06:19 RagnarLaud can you help me?
06:19 Calinou thank you for the free highlights
06:19 Calinou RagnarLaud: just ask your question
06:19 hmmmm !calc ask
06:19 hmmmm err
06:19 RagnarLaud i need somebody to make me a picture
06:19 RagnarLaud a sidebar
06:20 Calinou doityourself
06:20 RagnarLaud i cant o.o
06:20 RagnarLaud my mouse is broken
06:20 hmmmm i need a toothpick, paper clip, 3 bars of margarine, and some anal lube
06:20 RagnarLaud im using a gamepad
06:20 hmmmm can you get me that ragnarlaud?
06:20 RagnarLaud :D
06:20 Calinou ...how are you using IRC with a gamepad?
06:20 Oblivion1500 Calinou: do you have some sort of crafting guide on your server?
06:20 RagnarLaud yes
06:20 RagnarLaud o.o
06:20 Calinou Oblivion1500: no
06:21 Oblivion1500 you planning on getting one?
06:21 RagnarLaud i use wine + xPadder + Ubuntu's_KeyToMouse
06:21 RagnarLaud so calinou, how about it?
06:21 RagnarLaud please
06:21 RagnarLaud ill give you free advertising?
06:21 RagnarLaud please?
06:21 RagnarLaud i need it :'(
06:21 hmmmm it's probably safe to assume that this guy's trying to troll
06:21 RagnarLaud who?
06:22 RagnarLaud me?
06:22 RagnarLaud no!
06:22 RagnarLaud http://hvgaming,bugs3.com
06:22 RagnarLaud im trying to make a CSS template for it
06:22 Calinou RagnarLaud: why wine? :P
06:22 RagnarLaud and thats why i need that picture
06:22 RagnarLaud idk
06:22 hmmmm cool
06:22 RagnarLaud o.o
06:22 RagnarLaud thanks
06:22 Calinou no, i won't do it
06:22 RagnarLaud btw, hmmm, it doesn have any CSS yet
06:22 Calinou and probably noone would do
06:22 RagnarLaud HTML only
06:23 RagnarLaud mkay
06:23 hmmmm ragnarlaud, i'll do it, but first you have to turn on private chat mode by holding down ctrl and pressing F4
06:23 * RagnarLaud is very sad.
06:23 Calinou hmmmm would like to have a talk with you :] if you don't use CSS
06:23 RagnarLaud umm...no?!
06:23 hmmmm why not
06:23 RagnarLaud CTRL + F4 = ClosingTheTab
06:23 Calinou if you have colored text on a page with no CSS you're not respecting standards
06:23 RagnarLaud -.-
06:23 hmmmm no it doesn't
06:23 RagnarLaud YES IT dOES!
06:23 Calinou aren't things like <span> and <b> "obsolete"?
06:24 Calinou that's what the validator says at least
06:24 hmmmm try it
06:24 RagnarLaud THATS THE #1 THING I DO!!!
06:24 Calinou it works but it won't be validated
06:24 RagnarLaud ALT + F4 = Close the window
06:24 hmmmm yea i said ctrl + F4
06:24 Calinou what about alt+print screen+B
06:24 Calinou do that
06:24 Calinou j/k :p
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06:27 Oblivion1500 Calinou: are you planning on getting the crafting guide or are you willing to if not may i ask why?
06:27 RagnarIsRagedAtC I HATE YOU CALINOU!!!
06:27 RagnarIsRagedAtC I fREAKING HATE YOU!
06:27 RagnarIsRagedAtC YOu S.O.B.!
06:27 RagnarIsRagedAtC Calinou!!!
06:27 RagnarIsRagedAtC ARE YOU EVEN LISTENING?
06:27 Oblivion1500 uhm.. calm down
06:27 RagnarIsRagedAtC WATCHING*
06:27 RagnarIsRagedAtC I CANT
06:27 hmmmm alright now that's just spamming.  at this point i'd ban the feller
06:28 RagnarIsRagedAtC I PRESSED ALT + Print Screen + B
06:28 Oblivion1500 what did he take your gf?
06:28 Oblivion1500 wow
06:28 Oblivion1500 your dumb
06:28 RagnarIsRagedAtC -.-
06:28 Oblivion1500 lol
06:28 RagnarIsRagedAtC HOW DAFUQ DID I HATE TO KNOW THAT THIS COMBINATION RESTARTS MY PC
06:28 Oblivion1500 jk
06:28 Oblivion1500 google?
06:28 RagnarIsRagedAtC IM A NEW UBUNTU USER!
06:28 RagnarIsRagedAtC LESS THAN 2 WEEKS
06:28 RagnarIsRagedAtC LAWL
06:29 Oblivion1500 well good thing your comp starts up fast it wasent one min before you came back raging
06:30 Calinou Oblivion1500: no need for it... it's not hard to type /mods to see mod list, then search the mod name on the forums
06:30 Calinou it takes time, yes :)
06:30 Calinou RagnarIsRagedAtC: I said "j/k" for a reason :P
06:30 Oblivion1500 so why not add it? does it do something bad to your server?
06:31 RagnarIsRagedAtC Calinou, well you didnt say it fast enought -.-
06:31 RagnarIsRagedAtC do you know how much time it takes to re-set the xPadder
06:32 RagnarIsRagedAtC or atleast open .xpadderprofile and .xpadderlayout
06:32 RagnarIsRagedAtC maybe 10 minutes -.-
06:32 RagnarIsRagedAtC or so
06:32 RagnarIsRagedAtC wait
06:32 RagnarIsRagedAtC gonna bring a friend here :)
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06:34 RagnarIsRagedAtC hi
06:35 RagnarIsRagedAtC hi
06:35 RagnarIsRagedAtC crap :/
06:35 RagnarIsRagedAtC Y MAH BOT NOW WORKIE
06:35 RagnarIsRagedAtC calinou, so can you PLEASE make that picture?
06:36 RagnarIsRagedAtC its a normal rectangle with NEON sides :P
06:36 RagnarIsRagedAtC inside its black :P
06:36 RagnarIsRagedAtC wait
06:37 Calinou nope.avi
06:38 RagnarIsRagedAtC ok, then atleast help me with the keys
06:38 RagnarIsRagedAtC with what key do i get the pencil?
06:39 Calinou buy a mouse instead
06:39 RagnarIsRagedAtC and DONT say Alt + PS + B
06:39 RagnarIsRagedAtC YOURE NOT HELPING!
06:39 RagnarIsRagedAtC but srsly, PLEASE, im begging you!
06:40 Calinou there is no need to whine at people so much just because you want some kind of image to be done
06:40 Calinou it's not like people visit your site already
06:40 RagnarIsRagedAtC thats cause i havent advertised it, index'ed it on google, posted a thread etc...
06:41 RagnarIsRagedAtC it needs to be great before ill do that
06:41 RagnarIsRagedAtC oh, comeon!
06:42 RagnarIsRagedAtC PLEASE
06:42 RagnarIsRagedAtC hi moltenbot
06:42 RagnarIsRagedAtC hi minetest-tan
06:46 Oblivion1500 anyone know all the different ways you can make a protection block? i know the steel with stone sorrounding and 4 steel.. or if your on calinous server the mod named protectors i beleave, how do you make the block?
06:48 Oblivion1500 no just protector
06:49 Calinou 4 steel ingots, or silved
06:49 Calinou or silver ingots, i don't remember
06:51 Oblivion1500 probably silver, i think that is the normal one lol i thought it was steel
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06:52 Oblivion1500 and its 5 blocks in every direction right?
06:53 reptilian666 Yo. Where can I find the most polished version on minetest (official or unofficial)?
06:53 reptilian666 on = of*
06:54 Oblivion1500 i tried silver and steel nither worked...
06:55 Oblivion1500 minetest.net
06:56 Oblivion1500 Calinou is there another method you think you used?
07:05 Oblivion1500 anyone have any ideas on my issue? cant make a protector block and would really like to make it so i can protect my building,
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07:07 celeron55 reptilian666: umm... what do you mean by that?
07:07 Oblivion1500 OldCoder: your using zegs mod for protection, isent that stone = cooked cobble surrounding a steel ingot? because thats not working.
07:21 Calinou yes, protection is 11×11×11
07:22 Oblivion1500 lol not to worried about that now, just want to figgure out how to make the block
07:28 OldCoder Hi!
07:28 Oblivion1500 hey, so do you know the problem im having?
07:33 OldCoder Oblivion1500, Hmm? No
07:33 Oblivion1500 your using zegs protector mod in cal's server right?
07:35 Oblivion1500 thats a steel ingot surrounded by stone am i correct.. i mean thats what it says in his thread.. but thats not working.. you want to check the code and recipe and make sure thats correct?
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07:40 Calinou Oblivion1500: no, glomie's
07:41 Oblivion1500 are you sure, cause i beleave he changed them to zegs
07:41 Oblivion1500 if its glomies then it should be 4 steel or 4 silver, and its neither of those
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07:50 Calinou can't craft protect block, just tried
07:50 Calinou the steel is an ingot, or a block?
07:52 Oblivion1500 just tryed the block, not a block either lol
07:56 Oblivion1500 looking at the code and i cant seem to find anywhere to craft the item....
07:57 Oblivion1500 maybe it isent even in the code to make it, im going to check dependents
07:57 Oblivion1500 hmm just default..
08:09 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/1508748/
08:09 moltenbot Calinou's link: Ubuntu Pastebin
08:09 Calinou can anyone help?
08:09 * Calinou is trying to exploit a physics bug
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08:25 Oblivion1500 i dont know anything about your code but i looed everywhere in zegs and the only craft item in his is the protector stick, witch i was able to make, there is no craft method for the node,.. so yea i dont know how you forget that big section of code.. but it is a simple few lines if oldcoder is willing to do it or maybe wait for zeg...
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08:29 OldCoder Hi
08:29 OldCoder Oblivion1500, R
08:29 OldCoder Oblivion1500, what do you need?
08:30 celeron55 Calinou: if you place a wallmounted on the ground, it will always be the same
08:31 celeron55 Calinou: wallmounted has six positions; one of four walls, floor and ceiling
08:31 celeron55 nothing else
08:31 celeron55 facedir has four, which are four rotational directions
08:32 Oblivion1500 Oldcoder: just add the couple lines of code to the bottem of zegs code to add the ability to make the protector.node
08:33 Oblivion1500 if you look at it you can see the stick is there but the node is not, the only way to get it is the give mod
08:44 Calinou celeron55: i placed one of these on the floor, wall and ceiling, they all had the same shape :P
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09:21 OldCoder Hi
09:22 OldCoder Oblivion1500, I will do this now if somebody is here who can indicate the code
09:22 OldCoder Excuse the delay in answering
09:22 OldCoder I am preoccupied
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10:30 kaeza morning all
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10:39 kaeza1 minetest.net down again?
11:09 kaeza ...hi?
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11:22 kaeza minetest.net down?
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11:40 Exio kaeza: same here, down :/
11:41 kaeza hi Exio
11:41 kaeza dang :/
11:42 Exio hai :P
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12:23 kaeza marktraceur: you here?
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13:05 thexyz !ping minetest.net
13:05 moltenbot host minetest.net DOWN
13:05 thexyz fuck
13:08 kaeza yup
13:08 kaeza minetest.net down
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13:17 kaeza <offtopic>celeron55: is ternadim still being developed?</offtopic>
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14:12 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
14:12 kaeza hey
14:12 celeron55 <offtopic>kaeza: yes</offtopic>
14:13 kaeza celeron55: cool
14:14 celeron55 kaeza: where did you find about ternadim?
14:14 PilzAdam is minetest.net down?
14:14 celeron55 PilzAdam: it is
14:14 kaeza c55.me/blog/
14:14 celeron55 kaeza: ok, quessed that 8)
14:14 kaeza it looks cool
14:14 celeron55 guessed*
14:14 kaeza is it an RTS?
14:15 kaeza or tactical?
14:15 kaeza (turn-based)
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14:53 LorenzoVulcan Hello guys
14:53 LorenzoVulcan is minetest forum down only for me?
14:54 PilzAdam nope, minetest.net is down
14:54 LorenzoVulcan Why is it offline?
14:54 PilzAdam dunno
14:54 LorenzoVulcan ...ok.
14:55 kaeza hey LorenzoVulcan
14:55 LorenzoVulcan hello :)
14:56 kaeza new updates to blockforge?
14:57 LorenzoVulcan yes
14:57 LorenzoVulcan i updated the 1.7.1,but i can't post the changelog if forum is offline
14:57 LorenzoVulcan anyway there are only fixes
14:57 kaeza too bad. I cannot login to troll some noobs :(
14:58 kaeza :P
14:58 LorenzoVulcan i read'd mobs...
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14:58 LorenzoVulcan i thought creepers are not so friendly with trolling
14:59 marktraceur kaeza: Nope. What's up?
15:00 kaeza hey marktraceur
15:00 kaeza nothing much
15:00 kaeza do you have experience with ircd?
15:01 kaeza how can I configure it to make it give a ping timeout at let's say 100ms? I'm still trying to test the reconnect on timeout...
15:02 Exio kaeza: why not a 'netcat'? and sending a fake login/motd + quit
15:03 kaeza hmm
15:03 marktraceur kaeza: It shouldn't be too hard to find the place in the code that says "wait 300 seconds" and change it to "wait 0.1 seconds"
15:03 * kaeza tosses a random link at LorenzoVulcan https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/memes/507c7ed2d5756.jpg
15:05 LorenzoVulcan Furry characters?
15:05 LorenzoVulcan I never thought PawsRU played minetest...
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15:09 LorenzoVulcan Minetest forum is still offline.
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15:12 Oblivion1500 yea, just went down, no notice at all, whats up with that.
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15:13 LorenzoVulcan Is offline from 4 hours.
15:13 LorenzoVulcan With no explaination.
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15:36 kaeza YAY! it works! the bot auto-reconnects on ping timeout (in fact, in any kind of error).
15:37 kaeza and minetest.net still down :/
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15:54 markveidemanis h
15:54 markveidemanis hi
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16:06 Jordach wassup peeps
16:07 john_minetest everythin fresh!
16:07 PilzAdam hey Jordach
16:08 Jordach finally got my ipad back
16:08 Jordach :D
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16:09 Jordach suppose i start on the 32x water / lava
16:09 Jordach also: why is the water slightly alphaised
16:09 Zeg9 Hi !
16:10 john_minetest Zeg9! hi!
16:14 Jordach hey Zeg9 (or zeggie)
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16:25 kaeza hey all
16:26 kaeza YAY! minetest.net is up again!!
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16:32 Zeg9 Hi kaeza
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16:36 Jordach hey NekoGloop
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16:40 Calinou hi
16:41 klunk Hi !
16:41 PilzAdam Calinou, "* To fly at "fast" speed, the "use" key must now be held if using shift to descend (PilzAdam)" <- https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/0437abbffbcff46e33de14c0baedc676f14e7507
16:41 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Add a setting to enable always flying fast ?  0437abb ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
16:41 PilzAdam also, Hi!
16:42 PilzAdam "* Flying through walls now requires the "noclip" privilege (PilzAdam)" <- maybe mention the "H" key here
16:42 Calinou k
16:43 PilzAdam "Added minetest.show_fromspec(playername, formspec) to show formspecs via Lua (sapier)" <- https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/0b1d09ff4f4e92986f6abdbc57db97c18707196a
16:43 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Fix buttons not working for Lua-triggered formspecs ?  0b1d09f ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
16:43 PilzAdam (parameters have changed)
16:43 Jordach PilzAdam, much more userful for flying
16:43 * Jordach dislikes having fast and fly at the same time
16:48 * Jordach waits it out for nekogloop to arrive again
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16:51 rubenwardy hi all
16:55 Zeg9 Hi rubenwardy
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16:56 Jordach oh hey 0gb.us
16:56 us_0gb Hello Jordach.
16:57 Zeg9 Hi 0gb.us
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16:57 us_0gb Hello Zeg9.
16:58 Jordach NakedFury, for the past two days i've been working on a 32x minetest faithful...im sure you are aquainted with the mc version no?
16:58 us_0gb Is that a texture pack?
16:58 Jordach also: 32x animated water: http://imgur.com/a/Uo0Mq
16:58 moltenbot Jordach's link:             Photo Album - Imgur
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16:58 us_0gb Oh, nice.
16:59 * Jordach notes that a bigger default player skin will be coming soon
16:59 NakedFury yes
17:00 NakedFury faithful, painterly, doku, spaxs something
17:00 analphabet Heyllo y'all! so here's my conveyor mod --> https://github.com/marcelklehr/minetest-conveyor
17:00 moltenbot analphabet's link: marcelklehr/minetest-conveyor ? GitHub
17:00 Jordach NakedFury, you might have caught me upload my progress from time to time
17:01 Jordach (as screenshots)
17:01 analphabet even though there is a similar thing out there already
17:01 Jordach rubenwardy, i smoothed the stone texture a little
17:01 analphabet but I think it's quite promising, so I published it anyway...
17:02 Zeg9 Jordach, nice texture pack
17:02 analphabet I didn't use rails, though.. didn't seem to fit my needs
17:03 PilzAdam Calinou, what about the other 2 changes I suggested? http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-01-08#i_2794603
17:03 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: IRC log for #minetest, 2013-01-08
17:03 Jordach rubenwardy, smooth stone: http://i.imgur.com/LnF1Y.png
17:04 Jordach VanessaE, you here?
17:05 Jordach this is a little important
17:06 rubenwardy looks blurry, but better
17:06 Jordach well, SMOOTH STONE is SMOOTH STONE
17:10 thexyz smooth, not blur
17:10 rubenwardy yeah
17:11 * Jordach ponders if it is worth it to redo the stone texture
17:14 Calinou looks bad
17:15 Jordach how about now? (i quickly made this up..tbh) http://i.imgur.com/onUV2.png
17:16 PilzAdam give it a bit more contrast
17:17 Calinou meh, i like the default smooth stone
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17:19 Jordach some rails and papyrus: http://i.imgur.com/1csqb.png
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17:20 Jordach (also, yes, i have drawn the heart in 32x)
17:20 PilzAdam mak them 1 px bigger
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17:20 PilzAdam *make
17:20 Jordach which
17:20 markveidemanis hi
17:20 markveidemanis i reinstalled my OS
17:22 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/tvXF9.png
17:22 Jordach contrasted stone
17:22 markveidemanis looks mysterious
17:28 markveidemanis Jordach...
17:28 markveidemanis help
17:28 markveidemanis i cannot sudo apt-get install
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17:37 Jordach hi NekoGloop
17:37 NekoGloop HAAAAAAI
17:37 NekoGloop :D
17:39 Jordach NekoGloop, nearly done for the basic stuff now
17:39 markveidemanis how do i set super user password linux?
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17:39 PilzAdam do you use *buntu?
17:40 thexyz markveidemanis: man man
17:40 Obiewan1111 Hey..
17:40 markveidemanis lubuntu
17:40 PilzAdam then dont create a password for it
17:40 PilzAdam oh, and read some ubuntu wikis
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17:41 Obiewan1111 I love Ubuntu, what's up?
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17:43 Obiewan1111 Was just trying out irc on my phone.
17:43 Obiewan1111 Not bad at all. :)
17:43 Zetetic Personally I prefer Andchat
17:43 Zetetic Just in case you care :)
17:45 Obiewan1111 I just installed AndroIRC, as long as it works, it's fine..
17:46 Zetetic Fair enough
17:46 markveidemanis Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
17:46 markveidemanis lubuntu...
17:46 VanessaE markveidemanis: sudo.
17:46 markveidemanis sudo apt-get update
17:47 markveidemanis ??
17:47 markveidemanis Why?
17:47 VanessaE mmhmm.
17:47 VanessaE also hi all.
17:47 PilzAdam hey VanessaE
17:47 VanessaE because apt requires root access, it changes system files
17:47 markveidemanis how do i set passwd for the "su" command
17:47 VanessaE hey.
17:47 VanessaE markveidemanis: you don't.  don't use su, use sudo.
17:48 Zetetic And if you really want to, you can "sudo su"
17:48 Zetetic Not that I'd recommend that
17:48 markveidemanis ok, it works
17:48 Zetetic Or probably "sudo sh"
17:48 markveidemanis now i can apt-get
17:48 markveidemanis too late now....
17:49 Jordach because RMS will sudo courts su
17:49 markveidemanis still same error
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17:50 VanessaE Zetetic: if you want to "go root" and stay there, sudo -i
17:51 Zetetic VanessaE: Oh thanks
17:51 * Zetetic should really install Linux sometime soon
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17:51 Zetetic VanessaE: are you the mesecon deity?
17:51 markveidemanis But help!
17:52 markveidemanis i cant get irrlicht without terminal
17:52 PilzAdam or, to make your system insecure: sudo su ; passwd your_password
17:52 markveidemanis Ok
17:52 VanessaE no I am not, that's Jeija.
17:52 Jordach hahahahahahahahahahha
17:52 markveidemanis Thanks
17:52 Zetetic Ah, sorry
17:52 Zetetic I won't moan at you then :)
17:52 * Jordach isnt laughing at Zetetic
17:52 markveidemanis STILL ERROR
17:53 markveidemanis Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
17:53 VanessaE markveidemanis:  just follow the README.  it tells you what to install to get MT up and running.
17:53 PilzAdam marktraceur, killall apt-get
17:53 markveidemanis i can't complete the first command
17:53 PilzAdam killall dpkg
17:53 markveidemanis what will that do?
17:53 PilzAdam (maybe sudo killall)
17:53 markveidemanis killall?
17:53 markveidemanis ok
17:53 VanessaE do you have Synaptic, Aptitude, etc running?
17:53 VanessaE or Adept
17:53 markveidemanis whats synaptic
17:54 Zeg9 lol
17:54 Zeg9 Are you serious?
17:54 Zetetic This sounds like a question you'd get more luck with on your distro's channel to be honest
17:54 VanessaE or Ubuntu Software Center?
17:54 VanessaE forget about what it is - are any of these running?
17:54 PilzAdam marktraceur, easiest solution: reboot
17:54 VanessaE PilzAdam: NO!  Bad boy!  no cookie for you!
17:54 VanessaE :)
17:55 VanessaE reboot indeed.
17:55 markveidemanis Media Change: Please insert the disc labelled  'Lubuntu 12.10 _Quantal Quetzal_ - Release i386 (20121017.1)' in the drive ‘/media/cdrom/’ and press enter
17:55 VanessaE such blasphemy
17:55 PilzAdam Alt + PrintScreen + B
17:55 VanessaE markveidemanis: nano /etc/apt/sources.list    and remove the line relating to the CDROM there
17:55 sfan5 markveidemanis: you seem to have installed your lubuntu without internet connection, that disables apt's internet function
17:55 VanessaE and any others for the CDROM (sometimes there are several at the top)
17:56 markveidemanis nano /etc/apt/sources.list in terminal?
17:56 VanessaE sfan5: are you sure about that?
17:56 VanessaE markveidemanis: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
17:56 VanessaE yeah
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17:57 sfan5 VanessaE: this happend to me once
17:57 Zeg9 Hi mauvebic
17:57 VanessaE sfan5: weird.
17:57 markveidemanis it brings up coloured text..
17:57 mauvebic sup zeg9
17:57 sfan5 ..while installing debian
17:57 VanessaE all I've ever had it do is (stupidly) leave the CDROM in place.
17:57 PilzAdam markveidemanis, -> #ubuntu
17:57 markveidemanis http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal main restricted
17:57 moltenbot markveidemanis's link: Index of /ubuntu
17:57 VanessaE markveidemanis: ok, so do what I just said - remove the line that refers to the CD ROM, first or second line of the file probably.
17:57 mauvebic i tried 0.4.4-d1 yesterday, chunks wouldn't load or took half an hour to do so
17:58 markveidemanis i dont know how to remove a line in terminal
17:58 mauvebic back to 0.4.4 stable
17:58 VanessaE mauvebic: EmergeThread bug.  happens on my server too.
17:58 VanessaE markveidemanis: delete it with the delete key.
17:58 VanessaE come on use some common sense.
17:58 mauvebic okie doke then i dont need to file anything lol
17:58 markveidemanis ok
17:58 Jordach trololololololololololololololololololololololol 0.4.4-d1
17:58 sfan5 Jordach: what?
17:58 mauvebic jordach dont laugh i only did it because of the liquid bug
17:58 mauvebic :p
17:58 mauvebic which aint fixed in the latest either
17:59 Jordach mauvebic, if its broken: go fix i9t
17:59 Jordach it*
17:59 markveidemanis http://ompldr.org/vZ3pyaQ/2013-01-08-175836_1024x600_scrot.png
17:59 Jordach oh god -- i has 4 servers on irc open :O
17:59 NekoGloop pfft
17:59 mauvebic i wouldn't know where to look lol
17:59 VanessaE markveidemanis: ok, so DELETE THAT LINE.  jeez!
17:59 PilzAdam markveidemanis, -> #ubuntu
18:00 klunk Hello Zeg9 Zegaton is not v.0.4.4 stable anymore ? I had a message saying "troubles may occurs"with my client ?
18:00 mauvebic though is the liquid bug documented?
18:00 Zeg9 klunk, no idea, and hi
18:00 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Jordach's head
18:00 VanessaE mauvebic: which bug is that?
18:00 Jordach meoq
18:00 Jordach meow
18:00 mauvebic defining liquids only works if you only have default or no dependency
18:00 mauvebic defining a liquid in a mod with any other dependency seems to result in the flowing node not registering
18:00 * Jordach turns up some AC-DC
18:01 markveidemanis ok done
18:01 markveidemanis now i need to save it
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18:01 sfan5 now Strg+S
18:01 VanessaE mauvebic: I don't know if that's a bug, as such - everything seems to depend on default for one thing or another.
18:01 sfan5 *Strg+O
18:01 thexyz mauvebic: report it
18:01 VanessaE markveidemanis: Ctrl-X
18:01 markveidemanis Strg?
18:01 Zeg9 markveidemanis, it's the German for Ctrl I think
18:01 sfan5 "german" for ctrl
18:01 mauvebic well, try it for yourself, copy water from default in two different mods, one with depends default the other with depends <anymod>
18:01 markveidemanis k
18:01 VanessaE markveidemanis: control + X
18:02 markveidemanis Done that...
18:02 VanessaE markveidemanis: back to your shell prompt now?
18:02 markveidemanis No
18:02 VanessaE does it ask you if you want to save the file?
18:02 sfan5 Zeg9: Strg + A = Ctrl + A , Strg + B = Ctrl + B...
18:02 thexyz mauvebic: too lazy to do that ATM
18:02 markveidemanis idk
18:02 markveidemanis append
18:02 VanessaE markveidemanis: then you didn....what?
18:02 markveidemanis screenshot
18:03 sfan5 Zeg9: ...oh sorry, misread your sentence
18:03 marktraceur PilzAdam: Thanks for the advice!
18:04 * VanessaE waits for markveidemanis's screenshot...
18:04 PilzAdam marktraceur, oh, sorry
18:04 markveidemanis Slow...
18:04 mauvebic or - take the oil mod, remove the bucket depends and watch it flow lol
18:04 markveidemanis what else can i use ( not ompldr )
18:04 PilzAdam marktraceur, I meant markveidemanis
18:05 * Jordach suspects that the bucket is broken
18:05 markveidemanis Ouch, db error: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction
18:05 NekoGloop short answer: fix your interwebz
18:05 marktraceur PilzAdam: Even so, thanks
18:05 NekoGloop long answer: dont use omploader
18:06 mauvebic its not the bucket thats keeping liquids from flowing lol
18:06 * NekoGloop suspects that some idiot screwed something up
18:06 klunk <markveidemanis> what else can i use ( not ompldr ) = try imagebin
18:07 sfan5 have you guys heard of this:
18:07 sfan5 !g imgur
18:07 sfan5 damn!
18:07 Zeg9 Fail.
18:07 NekoGloop it doesnt like you
18:07 sfan5 http://imgur.com
18:07 moltenbot sfan5's link:     imgur: the simple image sharer
18:07 NekoGloop !g imgur
18:07 NekoGloop aha, is that bot dead?
18:07 sfan5 NekoGloop: its offline
18:07 sfan5 (dead)
18:08 PilzAdam s/its/she is/
18:08 MinetestBot joined #minetest
18:08 sfan5 oh, right
18:08 sfan5 !g imgur
18:08 MinetestBot sfan5: http://imgur.com/
18:08 moltenbot MinetestBot's link:     imgur: the simple image sharer
18:08 Jordach hey MinetestBot
18:08 MinetestBot Hey Jordach!
18:08 sfan5 moltenbot: don't do that :/
18:08 thexyz wait, wtf
18:08 * Jordach pets MinetestBot
18:09 VanessaE *facepalm*
18:09 rubenwardy hello MinetestBot
18:09 MinetestBot Hey rubenwardy
18:09 thexyz WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO HER, sfan5?
18:09 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head
18:09 sfan5 NOTHING!
18:09 NekoGloop aw :(
18:09 thexyz FUCK
18:09 MinetestBot meow
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18:10 MinetestBot meow
18:10 Jordach suicidal AI, isnt that the plot to Halo4?
18:10 us_0gb Is Minetestbot even a real bot?
18:10 sfan5 us_0gb: yes
18:10 NekoGloop so it detects having kittens on it's head? :3
18:10 sfan5 it just has something called !msg #minetest meow
18:10 us_0gb And it responds to kittens?
18:11 sfan5 NekoGloop: not really
18:11 NekoGloop lol
18:11 sfan5 ^ us_0gb
18:11 NekoGloop code eeet
18:11 sfan5 maybe
18:11 us_0gb Okay, got it.
18:11 MinetestBot meow
18:11 markveidemanis http://imgur.com/HQek2
18:11 us_0gb The greetings were believable, but not the kitten.
18:11 sfan5 markveidemanis: you did it rigt
18:11 sfan5 +h
18:12 VanessaE markveidemanis: now hit enter.
18:12 NekoGloop technically it could detect someone putting a kitten on it's head
18:12 markveidemanis ok
18:12 sfan5 VanessaE: enter?
18:12 NekoGloop seeing as i always say it the same way :P
18:12 NekoGloop sfan5: return key.
18:12 VanessaE sfan5: in that screenshot, it is waiting for him to confirm the filename to save as.  Enter.
18:12 markveidemanis same error
18:12 VanessaE (Return, whatever it's called)
18:12 VanessaE what error now?
18:12 sfan5 VanessaE: didn't see that
18:12 sfan5 NekoGloop: i know that..
18:12 us_0gb Does anyone know what will happen if I run "mkdir -p" on Windows? I'm not on Windows, so I can't check.
18:13 NekoGloop simple
18:13 us_0gb It's for a plugin.
18:13 NekoGloop it wont work
18:13 john_minetest NekoGloop: Where is the bot's head?
18:13 us_0gb Okay. No Windows. Got it.
18:13 markveidemanis http://imgur.com/NhML4
18:13 moltenbot markveidemanis's link: imgur: the simple image sharer
18:13 NekoGloop john_minetest: on her shoulders
18:13 us_0gb Is there a Windows equivalent?
18:13 NekoGloop windows == you never need to run anything in a command line
18:14 NekoGloop revolutional, no?
18:14 john_minetest NekoGloop: I think the head might be on port 80. At least i found <head> there.
18:14 thexyz NekoGloop: except when you need to
18:14 thexyz (it won't work well though)
18:14 us_0gb I don't need to run things from the command line on my Linux machine either ....
18:14 NekoGloop you never need to :P
18:14 VanessaE markveidemanis: sudo killall dpkg apt-get
18:14 john_minetest I use more commandline than anything else.
18:14 us_0gb Also, this is for a Minetest plugin.
18:14 NekoGloop there's always a gui or an equally better way.
18:14 markveidemanis dpkg: no process found
18:15 VanessaE markveidemanis:  ps ax |grep apt
18:15 NekoGloop us_0gb: what exactly are you attempting to do?
18:15 john_minetest NekoGloop: There is not always a GUI.
18:15 us_0gb I need to create a directory to save data to.
18:15 markveidemanis 3778 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto apt
18:15 NekoGloop well then look at worldedit
18:15 Calinou CLI is more efficient sometimes :p
18:15 us_0gb Every user will have a file to store warp points in.
18:15 NekoGloop it has the creation of the schems folder in the world folder
18:15 VanessaE markveidemanis: only the one line was returned?
18:15 us_0gb Worldedit ... Looking up.
18:15 markveidemanis yep
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18:15 john_minetest NekoGloop: I think the Worldedit gui confusing.
18:15 NekoGloop adapt that to what you need.
18:15 john_minetest *is confusing
18:16 markveidemanis Hello ZegBot
18:16 NekoGloop john_minetest: i have no idea what you are talking about
18:16 ZegTest This
18:16 markveidemanis Not zegbot?
18:16 VanessaE markveidemanis: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock &&  sudo apt-get update
18:16 Jordach NekoGloop, http://i.imgur.com/Kh3AE.png some jungle grass. (i dont know if i should change this)
18:16 Zeg9 ZegTest is me using a really good client ...
18:16 Zeg9 Called netcat :D
18:16 thexyz markveidemanis: fuser -cu /var/lib/dpkg/lock
18:17 markveidemanis that got smth...
18:17 thexyz oh, wait, I'm late
18:17 klunk Zeg9: had you already planed something about updates of Zegaton's map ?
18:17 VanessaE thexyz: I'll have to remember that one, I still use lsof out of habit.
18:18 markveidemanis i think it works...
18:18 Zeg9 klunk, not yet. The map took like 5 hours to generate, I think I'll wait that onomatopoeia gets faster.
18:18 NekoGloop Jordach: awesome
18:18 klunk Zeg9:  ok :-)
18:18 Jordach NekoGloop, almost done, jungle trees to go
18:18 Jordach bookshelves as well
18:19 us_0gb Worldedit uses mkdir without the -p flag. But doing that raises an error every time it is run, aside from the first time.
18:19 john_minetest <NekoGloop> there's always a gui or an equally better way. |||| IMO GUIs mostly just make things a bit more complicated.
18:19 markveidemanis can i not have 2 apt-get installs running at the same time?
18:19 ZegTest this is a test message from netcat
18:19 us_0gb So it's either I raise errors, or I forget Windows compatibility ....
18:20 markveidemanis Zzzz
18:20 us_0gb That's sad.
18:20 markveidemanis *Zzz
18:20 VanessaE if they're non-fatal errors, I'd say in this case it doesn't matter.
18:20 Zeg9 us_0gb, that's a problem with lua
18:20 Zeg9 Maybe lua file system could do something better
18:20 marktraceur us_0gb: If only we could all forget Windows compatibility. Luckily for therapists everywhere, we can't.
18:20 markveidemanis ~600KB/SEC
18:20 us_0gb True, Zeg9.
18:21 us_0gb Lua file system isn't integrated with minetest though, is it?
18:21 thexyz wtf, problem with lua
18:21 NekoGloop john_minetest: well for one you actually know what the things you can do are.
18:21 us_0gb I tried using SQLite from Minetest, and that's not installed.
18:21 thexyz you shouldn't use evil things like this one os.execute("mkdir \"" .. path .. "\"")
18:22 thexyz oh, wait
18:22 john_minetest NekoGloop: /help also shows you what you can do.
18:22 thexyz it cannot create dirs, so this is the only way
18:22 us_0gb That is a little messy, but I'm having to use os.execute() as well.
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18:22 NekoGloop us_0gb: make a txt file for each player and simply dump all the info in there
18:22 us_0gb Hello, robot.
18:22 * sfan5 test
18:22 NekoGloop john_minetest: in a command line? you've been playing minetest too long.
18:23 us_0gb Yes, a text file for each player, in that directory I need to create.
18:23 us_0gb Unless there's a better way?
18:23 john_minetest NekoGloop: Or "man" in Linux.
18:23 sfan5 1 file for all players?
18:23 NekoGloop you could also just make a single textfile and store them like so: playername.warpname = ...
18:24 us_0gb I'm on Linux, and it is working fie there. I'm trying to make it work on Windows.
18:24 thexyz ah, who cares about windows [l]users
18:24 us_0gb Using one file takes too much RAM.
18:24 NekoGloop john_minetest: Linux, the crap OS.
18:24 sfan5 NekoGloop: did you just say that linux is crap?
18:24 us_0gb No, WINDOWS, the crap operating system.
18:24 us_0gb Even DOS in better than Windows ....
18:25 NekoGloop Windows == dos
18:25 thexyz lol
18:25 sfan5 no
18:25 PilzAdam lol
18:25 NekoGloop just with actual usage available.
18:25 john_minetest NekoGloop: Nearly all Unix based OSes are good. But windows is the worse of all OS.
18:25 sfan5 windows 32bit/64bit dos 16bit
18:25 thexyz great comparison you made here
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18:25 us_0gb No. That is a common MISCONCEPTION. Windows is no longer built on DOS.
18:25 thexyz ^ since NT
18:25 sfan5 common?
18:25 Zeg9 us_0gb, I have an idea for fixing the mkdir problem.
18:26 Zeg9 1) test for a certain file in this directory
18:26 Zeg9 if it can't be opened, mkdir and create the file
18:26 us_0gb John_minetest, I agree.
18:26 Zeg9 there is no 2), no idea why I said 1) lol
18:27 us_0gb Zeg9, thank you, that could work. I just need to chose a name that is not a valid player name. Such as anything with a dot in it.
18:28 Zeg9 Yeah. Or add a suffix to the player files
18:29 us_0gb Hmm. I could do that. I'm going to check what the standard is first, in the players directory.
18:29 markveidemanis i installed wine...
18:29 markveidemanis but i don't see it in the menu
18:29 us_0gb Nope. No file extentions.
18:29 rubenwardy Compare windows to mac, and it is good
18:29 Zeg9 ok
18:29 NekoGloop so, in essence, the only OS that can run on my computer is shit
18:29 NekoGloop seems legit
18:29 us_0gb No, OS X is WAY better than Windows.
18:29 markveidemanis Yep
18:30 NekoGloop OS X == off-shoot-linux-thing == piece of shit
18:30 markveidemanis Yep!
18:30 us_0gb OS X does have a couple lame features, but is overall good.
18:30 Jordach NekoGloop, http://i.imgur.com/teLoU.png can i has book?
18:31 us_0gb Also, Linux is the best I've worked with yet, but I've only worked with the main three.
18:31 Zeg9 Jordach, is your texture pack somewhere on github?
18:31 NekoGloop Jordach: yes you can has book
18:31 NekoGloop as long as you throw it at the linux users
18:31 Jordach Zeg9, uploading it later
18:31 rubenwardy I find it unusable for my daily activity. The only things that are easy and efficient on makes is video editing and web surfing
18:31 rubenwardy brb
18:32 us_0gb Which is unusable?
18:32 markveidemanis wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\help.exe"
18:32 Zeg9 OS wars...
18:32 markveidemanis I want it to check D:\\
18:32 markveidemanis !
18:32 us_0gb Why do you need help.exe?
18:33 markveidemanis Idk, but i do...
18:33 Jordach trolololololol.exe
18:33 markveidemanis Just installed linux wine
18:33 us_0gb D? How are you trying to access it?
18:33 NekoGloop so do we have a on_rightclick with tools yet?
18:33 markveidemanis its not me
18:33 markveidemanis its the autocinfig
18:34 us_0gb Okay.
18:34 NekoGloop Jordach: yes you can has book, but only if you throw it at these linux fags.
18:34 us_0gb Sorry, I don't know then.
18:34 markveidemanis ok, it turns out was doing smth wrong:P
18:34 us_0gb We Linux "fags" like free books, and are good at catching them when they are thrown at us.
18:35 Zeg9 ...And the book is about MS Office >.<
18:35 us_0gb NOOOO!
18:35 Jordach that book shelf is full of windows books
18:35 us_0gb The horror!
18:35 Zetetic Free books?
18:35 NekoGloop if it's my MS office textbook it would crush you.
18:35 markveidemanis ok, it works FINe now :D
18:35 us_0gb Okay, cool.
18:36 us_0gb I think it's time for a book burning.
18:36 us_0gb We haven't held one of those in a while ....
18:36 markveidemanis ok...
18:36 markveidemanis playine HL2 UPLINK
18:36 markveidemanis Pixelated...
18:37 markveidemanis such a long intro
18:37 NekoGloop github says i have contributed to Jeija's mesecons repo... when did i do that? o.O
18:37 us_0gb In your sleep, probably.
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18:37 Jordach NekoGloop, i made the sounds for the noteblocks
18:37 Jordach :D
18:37 * sfan5 puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head
18:37 MinetestBot meow
18:37 us_0gb Some people write code best durring REM.
18:37 sfan5 yay
18:37 sfan5 @NekoGloop
18:37 * Jordach puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head
18:37 MinetestBot meow
18:37 NekoGloop You do know that doesnt ping me
18:37 sfan5 yes
18:37 Zeg9 Some people under windows get viruses that control keyboard and mouse when you sleep lol
18:38 NekoGloop Jordach: cool.
18:38 us_0gb I see.
18:38 NekoGloop Zeg9: that is why you dont look up porn.
18:38 Jordach Zeg9, bullshit
18:38 us_0gb Glad I don't run that then.
18:38 Jordach if i do get one? i nuke C:/ and re-install
18:38 us_0gb A virus wiped out a year's worth of my mother's photos recently.
18:39 NekoGloop and i <3 people who tell us about made-up viruses <3
18:39 us_0gb It could have been prevented too, if she hadn't been using Windows ....
18:39 Jordach desert sand / stone: http://i.imgur.com/Slub1.png
18:39 * Zeg9 was just joking, btw I never got a virus, or didn't notice it when I was under windows. Haven't used one since a while though...
18:39 Jordach <NekoGloop> and i <3 people who tell us about made-up viruses <3 -- were they guys on Linux and trolled people on reddit
18:40 PilzAdam Jordach, looks like water
18:40 * sfan5 puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head
18:40 MinetestBot meow
18:40 NekoGloop Jordach: the former.
18:40 us_0gb Nice. I like your scraggly dry shrubs.
18:40 Zeg9 But yeah it's fun the mails about made up viruses lol
18:40 Jordach PilzAdam, too lazy too change it now
18:40 Zeg9 "if you receive a mail called <...> reboot and format your pc !"
18:40 NekoGloop oh, wait, does an issue count for a contribution on github?
18:41 Jordach i think soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo#
18:41 NekoGloop https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/issues/37 4 months ago and it's *still* not fixed
18:41 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: Microcontroller after() bug ? Issue #37 ? Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons ? GitHub
18:41 NekoGloop or at least was fixed and not closed.
18:41 * Zeg9 goes away.
18:41 Zeg9 Bye!
18:41 us_0gb Is there a way to tell from Lua what operating system I'm on? To decide how to create a directory, I mean.
18:42 NekoGloop why dont you just make it only for linux
18:42 NekoGloop i'm sure nobody who's important would care.
18:42 us_0gb I would seriously love to make it only for Linux.
18:42 us_0gb It seems somehow mean though.
18:43 NekoGloop why
18:43 NekoGloop after all, "linux is the only real OS" </normalminetestuser>
18:43 us_0gb Well, how do you like it when people build things for only Windows?
18:43 marktraceur NekoGloop: That's simply not true
18:43 marktraceur NekoGloop: It's only a kernel
18:44 Zetetic Building things for only Linux will reduce my access to some friends who build cool things
18:44 us_0gb Sure, it happens a lot, but that doesn't make it pleasant.
18:44 us_0gb True, only a kernal.
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18:44 us_0gb *kernel
18:44 * rubenwardy is back
18:45 NekoGloop do i have to listen to this shitstorm
18:45 rubenwardy I do computer programming mostly
18:45 Jordach (rubenwardys game is using DirectX8)
18:45 Calinou <us_0gb> A virus wiped out a year's worth of my mother's photos recently.
18:45 us_0gb Maybe I'll just build the Windows fix, and tell people to uncomment it if they need it?
18:45 Calinou a virus
18:45 Calinou trololololol
18:45 Calinou people still believe in viruses?
18:45 rubenwardy MS Office is sh1t. Open Office all the way
18:45 NekoGloop also, it prolly wasnt a virus
18:45 us_0gb Yes, my mother gets all sorts of viruses all the time.
18:46 Zetetic Open Office is also shit, Lyx all the way
18:46 VanessaE OpenOffice is obsolete, LibreOffice all the way
18:46 NekoGloop more likely someone was sitting there and deleted it all :P
18:46 VanessaE :)
18:46 NekoGloop viruses dont tend to target any specific files, such as photos.
18:46 rubenwardy the major windows down fall is viruses
18:46 NekoGloop and if they do, it sure as hell aint photos.
18:47 markveidemanis i need steam...
18:47 markveidemanis to get games
18:47 marktraceur Word processors were just a fad, vim FTW.
18:47 marktraceur markveidemanis: Not true
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18:47 markveidemanis what about Garry's MOD?
18:47 rubenwardy yeah, libre
18:48 rubenwardy (6:45:22 PM) Jordach: (rubenwardys game is using DirectX8)
18:48 rubenwardy nah, OpenGL
18:48 us_0gb No, no one got on my mother's computer and deleted her photos.
18:48 * Jordach saw that screenshot
18:48 marktraceur rubenwardy: s/down fall/feature/
18:48 rubenwardy lol
18:48 Calinou <VanessaE> OpenOffice is obsolete, LibreOffice all the way
18:48 marktraceur rubenwardy: Windows gives you something to complain about, and isn't that the greatest gift of all?
18:48 Calinou libreoffice++
18:48 Calinou it is too slow, unfortunately
18:48 NekoGloop ...
18:48 sfan5 ^ i can confirm that
18:49 Calinou way too many features, yet office users complain about lack of features
18:49 rubenwardy people do like bitchiong
18:49 Calinou I use like 5% of its features
18:49 marktraceur Calinou: Exactly! vim is way faster.
18:49 Calinou marktraceur: or just something like geany :p
18:49 markveidemanis -++--++--++-=
18:49 rubenwardy Windows Vista is the worst OS
18:49 Jordach \o/
18:49 markveidemanis 1!
18:49 marktraceur Just have to learn bloody TeX
18:49 Calinou but you don't Get Jobs® with vim
18:49 Calinou you do with MSoffice
18:49 Jordach now can we fucking please get back on topic
18:49 Calinou noone is a journalist that uses vim :P
18:49 markveidemanis ¶?
18:49 Calinou rubenwardy: 8*
18:49 us_0gb Windows (Vista or otherwise) is the real worst operating system.
18:49 markveidemanis łøł
18:49 Calinou ok, go back to topic please
18:49 marktraceur Jordach: Sure, whatcha want?
18:49 NekoGloop marktraceur: It's sad when the channel OP is the one who's flaming.
18:50 us_0gb Well, unless you people need me for something, I have a cat to bathe.
18:50 Jordach for gods sakes can we please talk about minetest and not OSes
18:50 us_0gb She should be thrilled ...
18:50 marktraceur Calinou: Geany is slow for me also, but mostly only when I have two instances and 15 tabs on each
18:50 Calinou "I have a cat to breathe" <= what I read
18:50 Calinou Jordach: incorrect. now we are talking about cats
18:50 Jordach oh for fucks sakes
18:50 markveidemanis hahah
18:50 * Jordach facepalms
18:50 marktraceur NekoGloop: I'm not flaming--I'm stating what I think is fact, and maybe a little bit of sarcasm, and I'm open to debate.
18:50 us_0gb Yes. I must "breathe my cat", whatever that means.
18:50 * markveidemanis <>()
18:50 rubenwardy Everyone #osrage
18:50 Calinou marktraceur: gedit isn't necessarily faster, and uses zeitgeist D:
18:50 NekoGloop MODERATE THE FUCKING CHANNEL, YOU DAMN OP'S.
18:51 NekoGloop THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE HERE FOR.
18:51 NekoGloop now, back to minetest.
18:51 us_0gb What is an "op"?
18:51 markveidemanis łøł
18:51 marktraceur NekoGloop: Agreed, let's stick to the topic at hand
18:51 markveidemanis its an "@"
18:51 markveidemanis like that
18:51 marktraceur Everyone, we had a nice few minutes of conversation, but let's bring it back to Minetest. Thanks!
18:51 Jordach and here we see, NekoGloop being on topic for once
18:51 us_0gb An op is an at symbol?
18:51 Calinou lol, i was opped twice 8)
18:51 markveidemanis sooo...the attachment bug...
18:52 markveidemanis dont spam OP..
18:52 markveidemanis :P
18:52 NekoGloop i'm on topic when the channel is off-topic, and off-topic when the channel is on-topic
18:52 us_0gb I think they fixed the attachment bug in the dev version.
18:52 us_0gb Anyway, later people.
18:52 marktraceur NekoGloop: You were off-topic before it was cool :)
18:52 NekoGloop @@Calinou
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18:53 NekoGloop hm...
18:53 NekoGloop should i make a logic_module in glooptest? (compat module will allow my logic wires to connect to mesecons)
18:59 Jordach welcome to the jungle, we got fun and games: http://imgur.com/a/CGlOu
18:59 moltenbot Jordach's link:             Photo Album - Imgur
19:00 NekoGloop love the side texture, hate the top one.
19:00 Calinou a bit too bright, no?
19:00 rubenwardy ooooh: new gui at github.com/<username>
19:00 Jordach NekoGloop, i made a botch job of the top
19:00 NekoGloop i noticed 8)
19:00 Calinou rubenwardy: april fool will be metro interface for the github website :D
19:01 rubenwardy oh dear
19:01 NekoGloop Calinou: in case it isnt blatantly obvious or you havent found out by now he's making an MTfaithful pack :)
19:01 marktraceur Calinou: I for one would welcome a metrosexual interface for a website. It's about time someone with proper style took a crack at web design.
19:02 rubenwardy sarcasm?
19:03 Calinou http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/Capture%20d'%C3%A9cran%20-%2008012013%20-%2020%3A01%3A08.png < subliminal messages D:
19:03 Jordach O.O
19:03 Calinou (also, back to chromium 26!)
19:03 marktraceur Intentional misunderstanding for comic effect
19:04 Calinou NekoGloop: he is, but the jungle tree seems a bit too bright compared to the default one
19:04 Calinou misunderstandings? I'll pay you with m$!
19:05 Jordach Calinou, NekoGloop http://imgur.com/a/c4LRu now shush
19:05 moltenbot Jordach's link:             Photo Album - Imgur
19:05 Jordach feel free to submit a better one
19:05 NekoGloop :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
19:05 * Jordach is too tired and lazy to add moreore support
19:06 Calinou much better
19:06 Calinou (but still a bit "blurry" like the other textures :/)
19:06 Calinou minecraft's faithful isn't blurry like that
19:07 Jordach Calinou, when making these with noise, (and really, gimps noise is good once blurred) and not to mention its pretty difficult to do working from a SCALED texture
19:07 NakedFury are you converting mc texture to mt or scaling it up to another size?
19:07 Jordach NakedFury, handmade minetest_game textures
19:07 NakedFury ohh
19:08 Jordach five secs, lemme just quickly fix something
19:08 * marktraceur imagines Jordach over a pottery wheel, making a clay representation of a mese pickaxe
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19:09 marktraceur Actually my brother made a ceramic box painted like a Mine* dirt_with_grass node
19:09 VanessaE marktraceur: if he had any style, he'd be using my HDX mese pick as the model thereof ;)
19:09 Calinou marktraceur: minecraft's grass is called "Grass Block", "Grass" is the "tall grass" :P
19:09 marktraceur VanessaE: Not all of us can have style. Somebody has to shop at Wal-Mart.
19:09 VanessaE lol
19:10 Calinou no walmart in france, so I can't
19:10 Calinou oppa walmart style?
19:10 Jordach quit fighting
19:10 Jordach or i'll make some popcorn
19:10 marktraceur Well, it falls to me I suppose.
19:11 marktraceur I did want to get a nerf sniper rifle.
19:11 Calinou dinner, bye
19:11 rubenwardy food_modern : popcorn
19:11 Calinou marktraceur: battlefield 3 has these
19:14 Jordach here get your downloadable copy now: https://github.com/Jordach/Faithful_Minetest_Texture_Pack
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19:18 karchnu Hello, I changed some translations in French (I'm a native French speaker) but I don't see how to test that.
19:18 karchnu I changed the .po file and I compiled but how to change the language in the GUI ?
19:19 Jordach beep boop beep: just updated the pack: NekoGloop added a crack texture
19:20 NekoGloop I did no such thing
19:20 marktraceur karchnu: You may need to recompile it with options? I don't know, actually.
19:22 karchnu marktraceur: seems weird.
19:23 rubenwardy mauvebic is depressingly good: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=156&amp;p=35
19:23 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: [Fun] Post your screenshots! (Page 35) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
19:23 rubenwardy what mods are these? http://www.zimg.eu/i/528929296
19:23 rubenwardy pipeworks + ?
19:24 mauvebic pipeworks + liquids
19:24 rubenwardy ah ha
19:24 mauvebic liquids aint out since there isn't much to do with them yet
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19:25 rubenwardy http://www.zimg.eu/i/1035087592 what is the scaffolding from?
19:25 mauvebic basically i need a bottling function and an abm for wetcement to turn to cement blocks
19:25 karchnu celeron55: here ? I've translated the game in french but I don't know how to test it.
19:26 mauvebic what scaffolding?
19:26 Doc22 looks like glass
19:26 mauvebic ( i dont see any in that pic)
19:26 Doc22 it that is what you mean
19:26 rubenwardy yes
19:26 mauvebic the glass block?
19:26 Doc22 yeah then i think it is glass
19:26 mauvebic thats ancient lol
19:26 rubenwardy brb
19:26 Doc22 and btw thanks for adding support for my mod :)
19:26 NekoGloop pipeworks plus some random mauvebic mods.
19:27 Doc22 hmmm
19:27 mauvebic which one?
19:27 mauvebic or you talking to ruben? lol
19:27 Doc22 yeah ruben
19:27 NekoGloop yes
19:27 NekoGloop cept he bailed as i was talking
19:27 Doc22 he added support in his food mod for my farming mod
19:27 mauvebic most my mods are random lol when i get bored or stuck...
19:27 * VanessaE is still waiting for a proper pull request for pipeworks...
19:28 VanessaE :)
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19:30 mauvebic look, i got them work :-) but if you want the whole thing rewritten in your writing/formatting style, then find someone with less skill and more time, i have other mods that need attn :-/
19:31 VanessaE mauvebic: ideally, one that doesn't involve an 1100 line patch that rewrites half of the mod into your coding style in the process. :)
19:31 marktraceur Ugh, painful
19:31 mauvebic otherwise i can maintain a minimal version and you can build on that
19:32 VanessaE meh
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19:32 VanessaE I'll merge the changes manually
19:32 kaeza back
19:32 kaeza hi all
19:32 VanessaE I appreciate the code, don't get me wrong...but it's kinda hard to use at present. :-)
19:32 mauvebic i know, im used to compacting code so i can read it faster
19:33 mauvebic im even abit confused as to why each PNG for tils {} needs its own line, but thats personal preference
19:33 VanessaE mauvebic: I do that for readability.  I have trouble reading wall-of-text style code :)
19:35 mauvebic well yeah but if youre shifting between 4 tabs of lua files its not terribly more readable then if its compacted
19:35 NekoGloop now time to play some random gba games.
19:35 kaeza NekoGloop: Advance Wars :D
19:36 NekoGloop Metroid Fusion w/ ice beam cheat code :DD
19:36 kaeza you cheater you! :P
19:36 NekoGloop actually it's more of a pain
19:36 Jordach NekoGloop, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62739#p62739
19:36 NekoGloop because it has issues with opening doors
19:36 moltenbot Jordach's link: Faithful Minetest Texture Pack [32x] [0.4.x] (Page 1) - Texture Packs - Minetest Forums
19:37 NekoGloop ew dat papyrus
19:37 kaeza Jordach: +1
19:37 kaeza and hi :)
19:38 Jordach there, post updated agaon
19:38 Jordach again
19:38 Jordach **
19:38 Jordach ***
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19:44 NekoGloop kaeza: http://ompldr.org/vZ3p1Ng
19:45 kaeza :D
19:45 kaeza nice
19:46 NekoGloop the beam itself is also funny looking
19:46 NekoGloop and gjnadlfdsjakl this feels so wierd on a keyboard
19:46 kaeza lolol
19:46 kaeza ever played Chrono Trigger?
19:47 NekoGloop and it also doesnt freeze things, ironically
19:47 NekoGloop yes, yes i have
19:47 kaeza it's a fck the part where you must press X+A+B (or something like that)
19:47 NekoGloop map them all to the same key
19:48 NekoGloop problem solved
19:48 kaeza that's what I did after an hour of trying to press them
19:48 kaeza lol
19:51 kaeza btw for anyone that cares, the IRC mod bot now auto-reconnects on any kind of error
19:51 kaeza (network errors)
19:52 VanessaE kaeza: as soon as you can convince c55 to expose enough of the network stack to Lua to let you recode that thing as a simple mod, it goes into my server :-)
19:52 VanessaE (as opposed to needing that sockets lib or whatever it is)
19:53 kaeza ok, but he is reluctant to reimplement something like that on the engine
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19:53 VanessaE I know.
19:54 kaeza and IDK if building luasocket directly into the engine executable is good enuff
19:54 kaeza opinions?
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19:54 VanessaE dunno
19:55 jeffrash I'm having this odd issue with worldedit.  I cleared a large area of dirt and stone but the lighting didn't change.  Now I have large areas of darkness in the daylight
19:55 kaeza jeffrash: use //dig
19:56 kaeza instead of //set air
19:56 jeffrash ok
19:56 jeffrash trying that now
19:56 kaeza it's slower, but adjusts lighting accordingly
19:56 NakedFury .//dig is the same as set air?
19:57 kaeza NakedFury: //dig is the same as if the player had dug the block manually
19:57 NakedFury ok
19:58 kaeza jeffrash: you can actually "dig" the air where the lighting problem is, and it will go away
19:58 kaeza (with //dig)
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20:03 * VanessaE sniffles and coughs
20:03 VanessaE NekoGloop: this is all your fault *sneeze*
20:04 NekoGloop sure it is
20:04 VanessaE somehow, you gave Abe and I your cold :-)
20:06 NekoGloop I dont have one
20:06 VanessaE the who was it? :)
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20:08 sapier hello, is there any common used inventory mod out there where adding a button for mobfs settings is possible?
20:08 VanessaE Unified Inventory > all else
20:09 jeffrash doing the //dig now.  It's taking a long time, CPUs running high too
20:09 sapier I don't assume cornernote is about to update inventory_plus any longer so I intend to dropp ip support for mobf ... btw you already can open it by /mobf_settings
20:09 mauvebic with minetest.show_formspec putting everything in the inventory is going to fall out of fashion (imo)
20:10 klunk sapier: we have a pretty inventory on Zegaton, had you tried it ?
20:10 sapier yes I've already added a chat command to show settings ... but "out of sight out of mind"
20:10 sapier klunk: no haven't
20:10 klunk with bags, pages for textures, ...
20:11 sapier a simple way to add a custom button for other mods too?
20:11 klunk players textures, places memory
20:11 mauvebic as i keep adding new nodes i keep having to expand my creative to show more at a time lol
20:11 mauvebic now its 16x7~8 creative lol
20:12 klunk sapier: you should have a look because it is "full feature", on my noob mind, at least ...
20:12 VanessaE sapier: forget all those and just use Unified Inventory :)
20:12 VanessaE it kicks ass.  'nuff said.
20:12 mauvebic im using pilzadam's signs, but the text keeps disappearing?
20:13 kaeza (18:06:05) jeffrash: doing the //dig now.  It's taking a long time, CPUs running high too
20:13 kaeza that is normal
20:13 sapier :-) I don't wanna judge how good or bad any of these are I just want to add support for most common one ;-)
20:13 jeffrash ok
20:14 mauvebic signs that dont show text aren't much use to me lol aren't entities supposed to re-appear when you near them?
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20:14 NakedFury hit them once
20:15 sapier mauvebic ... supposed yes but there's still a bug sitting around
20:15 mauvebic my signs mod creates the textures on the fly, but they dont appear until you restart the game...whereas the other signs disappear when you restart lol
20:15 mauvebic maybe we should meet halfway lol
20:16 sapier ohh .. textures are only loaded once on startup
20:16 jeffrash That fixed some of it.  Working on the rest now
20:16 mauvebic i know, i wish we had dynamic loading
20:16 sapier would need changes in protocol too
20:16 mauvebic yeah because when people sign on to a server is when they download everything
20:16 VanessaE mauvebic: there's an unfinished branch of minetest that can to that apparently.
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20:17 sapier atm client is asking on startup what resources are on server
20:17 sapier to do dynamic texturing server needs to notify client
20:17 VanessaE do*
20:17 mauvebic the only thing i can dynamically load in MT atm is text pulled off the net llol
20:17 mauvebic but how useful is yahoo weather or news in MT ... lol
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20:18 kizeren that would be neat.  have in game weather based on your location...
20:18 KikaRz Yea!
20:18 KikaRz Thats too awesome!
20:18 mauvebic already done
20:18 KikaRz Cool!
20:18 KikaRz Make that!
20:18 mauvebic its already done lol
20:18 kizeren really?
20:18 KikaRz ok! put thato n game!
20:18 KikaRz :D
20:18 kizeren Is it client side or server side location based?
20:18 KikaRz now really... what are you talking about, guys?
20:18 mauvebic it doesnt guess the location
20:18 john_minetest The people in antarctica would always have the snowy servers...
20:18 mauvebic you setup a big sign
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20:19 mauvebic give an id like WOEID- and the WOEID of the weather region you want
20:19 sokomine hi
20:19 mauvebic you could have several signs with different locations
20:19 kizeren Ahh
20:19 sapier NO LOCAL wether its dizzy here for weeks ... i'm already getting angry about that ;-)
20:19 john_minetest also i won't prefer yahoo weather. METAR is okay. FlightGear uses this.
20:19 mauvebic yahoo weather was the only API that worked for me
20:19 sokomine anyone willing to test my circularsaw-mod? it is intended to provide easier access to stairplus-nodes
20:19 mauvebic the other ones wouldn't load RSS
20:20 sokomine sapier: me too! strange weather for winter :-(
20:20 KikaRz now really... the desert stone falls?
20:20 john_minetest But yahoo is one of the ones who don't care about handling data right...
20:20 mauvebic i dont really care about their (or anyone else's ) software politics lol
20:20 sapier not strange just anoying last two winters have been way better
20:20 sokomine sapier: i saw several traders in my testworld :-) it seems they really liked it. or got enthusiastic after i traded with one :) the traders are really great! exactly like i wished them to be :-))
20:21 sokomine even their houses work most of the time. only sometimes the two floors over the floor row got turned into dirt
20:21 mauvebic politics is for the young, you reach a certain age and you realize its the same BS over and over and you do something more productive lol
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20:22 john_minetest METAR files should work, too. METAR is the flight weather aviable on every airport.
20:22 jakssoul I finally got Minetest compiled and running right on my machine. Ugh, it's ridiculous.
20:22 john_minetest So your next airport would give you your weather
20:22 kizeren so how does that work.  Place a sign and x amount of blocks around it is the weather?
20:23 KikaRz jakssoul
20:23 KikaRz your machine or minetest?
20:23 sapier two rows over the floor? hmm don't quite understand that building spawner should replace any nodes within building area by "air" prior starting building
20:23 sokomine hm, yes. nowerdays we don't look out of the window anymore but ask some internet site about local weather :-) (at least for temprature that's even practical :))
20:23 KikaRz (Ugh, it's ridiculous.)
20:23 jakssoul My machine, and a little bit of Minetest. Hahaha.
20:23 jakssoul Not so much Minetest, but compiling it.
20:23 sokomine maybe mapgen thought diffrent
20:23 sokomine it happened only rarely
20:23 KikaRz Want better? Help us making Minetest better by ideas, bug report and etc
20:23 john_minetest METAR, here for John F Kennedy airport in NYC:  http://www.aviationweather.gov/adds/metars/?station_ids=KJFK&amp;std_trans=standard&amp;chk_metars=on&amp;hoursStr=most+recent+only&amp;submitmet=Submit
20:23 moltenbot john_minetest's link: ADDS - METARS form results
20:23 sokomine hope the traders will eventually come to servers :-)) that would be great!
20:24 sapier yes but those "internet temperatures" are plain wrong most of time
20:24 jakssoul I wasn't complaining about the game. The game's fantastic, so chill out.
20:24 sokomine and i noticed that they are fine to have in a singleplayer world
20:24 KikaRz Going to make a Habbo Private server.
20:24 mauvebic anyways, the weather sign is part of big signs in nbu
20:24 jakssoul Habbo. I just busted out laughing.
20:25 sokomine don't know if the local thermometer is any more reliable. mostly it will show relative temprature i'm afraid :_(
20:25 jakssoul A man buys a lie detector robot that slaps people who lie. So he decides to try it out at dinner.
20:25 jakssoul DAD: Son, where were you today during school?
20:25 jakssoul SON: At school *robot slaps son*
20:25 jakssoul SON: Ok, I went to the movies.
20:25 jakssoul DAD: Which one?
20:25 klunk sokomine: you havn't realease a mod about trader's ?
20:25 jakssoul SON: Toy Story *robot slaps son again*
20:25 jakssoul SON: Ok, it was A Day with a Porn Star.
20:25 jakssoul DAD: WHAT?! When I was your age, I didn't even know what porn was. *Robot slaps dad*
20:25 jakssoul MOM: HAHA!! After all he is your son, *Robot slaps mom*
20:26 sokomine klunk: no. sapier has done so in his mobf-mod :-)
20:26 klunk sokomine: ok, thanks :-)
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20:28 sokomine the new traders in mobf are really great! ok, they should maybe later on trade other things, but that's a small change i think (maybe selling sand, clay and papyrus would be a good idea)
20:28 Obiewan1111 What mod contains lava torches?
20:28 sokomine 3dforniture iirc
20:28 sokomine anyone willing to test my new mod? https://github.com/Sokomine/circularsaw
20:28 moltenbot sokomine's link: Sokomine/circularsaw ? GitHub
20:28 mauvebic hook up the traders to nodex formspec, the nthey can sell anything
20:28 Obiewan1111 Alright, thanks.
20:29 jakssoul I will do it, sokomine.
20:29 sokomine the new formspecs where done for the traders afaik :-)
20:29 sokomine they work only with a relatively new version
20:29 jakssoul Could you tell me what it does?
20:29 sokomine and the formspec-interface for them is really well done
20:30 sapier have a look at mob_npc/init.lua line 138ff there's the list what trader sells and what you need to pay for it
20:30 mauvebic formspecs: https://sites.google.com/site/mauvemods/home/nodex
20:30 moltenbot mauvebic's link: nodex-doc - mauvemods
20:30 * jakssoul sighs.
20:30 mauvebic sells whatever nodes are registered with creative
20:30 sokomine jakssoul: oh, of course. it ought to make handling of stairsplus easier. instead of crafting all those stairs and slabs and microblocks, you craft one circularsaw, put the material inside and take out what stariplus-shapes you want
20:30 jakssoul I was talking to sokomine.
20:30 jakssoul I'll test it now.
20:31 mauvebic and i wasn't talking to you jakssoul so it all works out :-)
20:31 jakssoul Oh, I apologize, mauvebic. Because I wasn't talking to you either. :D I was speaking to sapier.
20:31 sokomine yes, can sometimes get confusing on irc :-)
20:31 jakssoul Who may not have been talking to me either.
20:31 mauvebic well this gets confusing fast lol
20:31 jakssoul Sokomine, what dependencies are there for the mod?
20:32 sokomine i really like the new formspec sapier did. my mod is a lot simpler and works with the old one though (it has less complex things to do)
20:32 mauvebic thats why i prefer forums cuz you can quote posts easily lol
20:32 sapier npc_trader is just standing around waiting for ppl trading to him
20:32 sokomine without stairsplus, it might not make any sense. you can install my locks-mod if you want
20:32 jakssoul IRC is a much quicker form of communications.
20:32 sapier you need latest minetest (after last formspec fix)
20:32 jakssoul stairsplus is the only dependency?
20:32 mauvebic tried latest yesterday
20:32 sokomine yes
20:33 sokomine ought to have added that in depends.txt
20:33 jakssoul Isn't stairsplus dependent on the old stairs mod?
20:34 mauvebic i know ND mods aren't permitted on the forums, but are NC?
20:34 jakssoul Could you expand the acronyms?
20:36 thexyz wait, any mods are permitted
20:36 sapier permitted is anything
20:36 sapier just some ppl won't be happy with nd and nc
20:36 mauvebic i was under the impression ND's werent
20:36 sapier ND isn't quite usefull as noone couldn't even download them
20:37 mauvebic well im a programmer not a customer satisfaction agent so weather or not theyre happy... lol
20:37 Zetetic Is this CC license terms?
20:37 PilzAdam gtg; bye
20:37 mauvebic i *DO NOT* want to talk specifics about licensing lol i just needed to know what i can/cant post
20:37 sapier yes CC
20:37 Zetetic Thanks
20:37 sokomine i've added a depends.txt
20:38 jakssoul Sokomine, I have failed to load and run your lua.init
20:38 jakssoul LOL
20:38 jakssoul init.lua
20:38 sapier most accepted license is WTFPL and CC-BY-SA
20:39 sokomine can you give me any error messages? i've tested it on my local singleplayer world
20:39 mauvebic yeah well where other mods are concerned i just keep the original license, simpler for all concerned
20:39 jakssoul I am just a moron and didn't remove "-master", hang on now.
20:39 sokomine ah, ok. happened to me several times as well :-)
20:40 VanessaE original mods' licenses aside, I don't think anyone will complain about -nc, but I think -nd is right out.
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20:40 mauvebic right out as in not permitted or?
20:40 jakssoul Alright, I've got one built and standing in front of me.
20:40 Zetetic More no bloody use I suspect
20:41 VanessaE as in you'll get yelled at by someone, either in a position of authority or not :)
20:41 jakssoul Would you like to tell me what I am supposed to do with it?
20:41 sokomine -nd was no derivates?
20:41 Zetetic Yes
20:41 VanessaE sokomine: yeah
20:41 VanessaE -nc is just non-commercial, which I see as perfectly fine if you aren't targeting upstream.
20:41 jakssoul Sokomine, tell me what I'm supposed to do with it now that it's sitting in front of me.
20:42 sokomine jakssoul: fine. put some blocks that can become a stair into the input field (cobble, wood, sandstone, glass, ....)
20:42 jakssoul One moment.
20:42 VanessaE jakssoul: careful...she'll tell you what to do with it, all right :)
20:42 jakssoul VanessaE, you're awful. I didn't realize sokomine was a "she" either.
20:42 mauvebic "authority" owning the forums and running the master branch doesn't exactly qualify, but if he says he doesn't want ND on the forums then i wont post those ones
20:43 VanessaE mauvebic: actually I meant a forum mod might complain.
20:43 thexyz mauvebic: as I already said, any valid license is permitted
20:43 mauvebic hehe ok so which forum mod would complain? (who else is active?)
20:43 thexyz for example, "public domain" is not allowed as it's not a license
20:44 mauvebic closest thing to public doman is NC
20:44 VanessaE well you know I don't care one bit for -nd, but I won't complain too loudly.
20:44 ruskie WTFPL works well ;)
20:44 VanessaE mauvebic: closest to PD is actually CC0 or WTFPL.
20:44 ruskie for public domain-like
20:44 mauvebic WTFPL lets you relicense
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20:44 mauvebic public domain you can;t i think
20:44 thexyz mauvebic: I'd complain, but that doesn't mean ND is not allowed
20:44 ruskie mauvebic, so does public domain
20:45 VanessaE with public domain, you can
20:45 VanessaE as it is defined in the US anyway.
20:45 ruskie mauvebic, public domain it means you give up all rights
20:45 sokomine what is cco now?
20:45 thexyz mauvebic: wrong
20:45 VanessaE CC0 = the Creative Commons version of public domain, basically.
20:45 thexyz Public domain is not allowed as a license because jurisdiction about what "public domain" means varies between countries. Release your work under WTFPL or CC0 instead (or also).
20:45 sokomine ah, thanks
20:45 jakssoul Sokomine, I received loads of Unknown items in return for 10 wood blocks.
20:46 sokomine do you have stairsplus installed?
20:46 jakssoul yes I do.
20:46 mauvebic public domain is confusing anyhow because the US keeps changing the terms of copyright
20:46 jakssoul Got it just for you, so feel special.
20:46 mauvebic things that were public domain a few years ago fell back to their original rights holders, its fucked up lol
20:46 sokomine hm. take some unknown items out and place them somewhere to get the nodename please. maybe the stair in the upper left corner
20:47 jakssoul I'm just getting unknown item.
20:47 sokomine thanks :-) but stairsplus is very useful for building anyway. maybe less needed on singleplayer
20:47 jakssoul stairpplus_slab_wood_quarter.
20:47 sokomine when you place that unknown item there will be a message what it is on stdout or stderr. maybe also in debug.txt
20:48 jakssoul Item "stairsplus:slab_wood_quarter" not defined
20:48 sokomine strange. that ought to be a stairsplus:slab_wood_quarder or such
20:48 jakssoul So I didn't install stairplus correctly or something?
20:49 sokomine ah. then craft something like that manually, please, and compare. e.g. a microblock: craft a stick over a wood block and look if you get that (normal crafting; checking if stairsplus is working)
20:49 sokomine or maybe it has a diffrent name?
20:52 jakssoul Listen, I'm not familiar with any of these stair mods or any mods that used microblocks. So, I'm a little more.. "n00bish" on this terminology.
20:56 NekoGloop meow
20:56 sokomine doesn't matter :-) but can you please place a stick in your crafting grid above a wood block? that ought to show you a microblock as a result. if not there's something with stairsplus. can you tell me which version you got?
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20:56 * sokomine looks in alarm around and puts some milk down for the kittens :-)
20:58 NekoGloop around in alarm*
21:00 sokomine ah :-) thanks for the correction
21:00 jakssoul The latest one.
21:01 jakssoul From minecraft.net/forum
21:01 jakssoul So, the one most people use.
21:01 jakssoul Sorry, minetest.net/forum
21:01 jakssoul I'm just full of typos today.
21:02 jakssoul I got nothing in response to stick/woodblock.
21:03 jakssoul I will reinstall stairsplus
21:03 Zetetic Does anyone know if the Player/Object Detector from Mesecons can be made to work with multiple people?
21:03 Jordach anyways, night all
21:05 jakssoul Alright, Sokomine.
21:05 jakssoul It works.
21:05 jakssoul Fantastically, may I add.
21:05 jakssoul Nice job.
21:05 sokomine if you didn't get a microbloc then stairsplus wheren't working
21:06 jakssoul No, it wasn't. It is now. So does your mod.
21:06 sokomine fine :-) the idea was by someone else (for more complex shapes). but i found it even more useful for stairs
21:06 jakssoul I have the mod for multiple geometric shapes.
21:07 jakssoul Your mod is very helpful, and I'm glad I could help out with testing it. The only issues were due to my stupidity
21:07 sokomine ah. that author had the idea to make a machine for his shapes. i wanted to have a better way to handle all those surplus slabs and microblocks and whatever they are called that filled my inventory :-)
21:07 sokomine thank you for testing it :-)
21:07 jakssoul I have this magical thing called /giveme .
21:08 sokomine i'll do a few screenshots then and post something about it
21:08 jakssoul :D Everyone does. I usually use it for mods.
21:08 jakssoul Make sure you give a decent description of it's use.
21:08 sokomine yes...but even with giveme you have to remember the names and type them. and creative inventory gets filled up with stairs as well
21:08 sokomine will require some pictures i'm afraid
21:08 jakssoul init.lua gives all of that information to me! :D
21:09 sokomine well, yes, it does :-)
21:09 sokomine but there's a readme.md as well
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21:09 jakssoul Not all of the mods have readme files that include item codes.
21:09 jakssoul Very few do, in fact.
21:10 NekoGloop Calinou: update yer ore images.
21:10 sokomine ah. calinou did the stairsplus mod if i'm not mistaken
21:11 marktraceur jakssoul: grep -rin 'minetest.register' | less
21:11 marktraceur Oh, that won't work.
21:11 marktraceur jakssoul: grep -rin 'minetest.register' . | less
21:11 jakssoul Excuse me?
21:11 sokomine do you know unix commands, jakssoul?
21:11 jakssoul Few.
21:12 jakssoul I need to learn more.
21:12 sokomine what marktraceur suggested is a fast way to see what a mod adds. grep searches for regular expressions (in this case: the string minetest.register) in files
21:12 marktraceur jakssoul: The one I just gave you will find all instances of the string "minetest.register", with filenames and line numbers. You can then find all the names.
21:12 jakssoul I enter that into... terminal?
21:13 sokomine yes, on the command line. in a shell
21:13 jakssoul Bash?
21:13 sokomine sometimes called terminal. yes. bash is a shell
21:13 jakssoul Just checking.
21:13 jakssoul If I CD into the directory all my files are located will that only search that directory?
21:13 sokomine you have to be in the right directory. do it in the direcotries of other mods (e.g. default) as well and have a look around :-) it's quite intresting
21:14 sokomine yes, the point stands for the current directory
21:14 jakssoul Gotttt it.
21:14 Calinou sokomine: yes
21:14 sokomine calinou: please have a look at https://github.com/Sokomine/circularsaw
21:14 marktraceur Terminal *emulator*
21:14 moltenbot sokomine's link: Sokomine/circularsaw ? GitHub
21:14 Calinou grep -rl "text you want to search" .
21:14 sokomine i hope it makes handling of stairsplus easier
21:15 Calinou after cding in a folder
21:15 jakssoul Shouldn't I be looking for nodes, though?
21:15 Calinou for searching text in files of a folder :)
21:15 marktraceur Pfff, "folder"
21:15 Calinou directory
21:15 Calinou w/e
21:15 jakssoul Hahaha, wonderful, marktraceur .
21:15 Calinou folder is windows language :)
21:15 marktraceur Calinou: No, it's just graphical language
21:15 jakssoul The language of pricks. I MEAN..
21:15 Calinou sokomine: it's README.md not .mt
21:15 jakssoul Kidding.
21:15 jakssoul :D
21:16 NekoGloop technically the image is pretty universally a folder for directories.
21:16 marktraceur Calinou: "folder" is the language of people who need to refer to the visual representation of something instead of its actual name
21:16 NekoGloop "directory" is deprecated. please use "folder" instead.
21:16 sokomine oh. sorry. where does the md come from?
21:16 jakssoul NekoGloop, in what world is directory deprecated?
21:16 marktraceur Calinou: It would be like me saying "This HTML page is really well laid-out, it has bullet elements and lines between text." Instead of "This HTML page has lists and tables"
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21:18 VanessaE bbl
21:18 jakssoul Bubble.
21:18 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4345 Amazing, nobody will comment about tools_module
21:18 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: [ModPack][0.0.3] GloopTest Pack! [glooptest] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
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21:19 NekoGloop lol 0gb.us just changed his profile pic it looks lie
21:19 NekoGloop like*
21:20 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pes_svWSnC0
21:20 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: ??????????Daughter of Evil ????UTAU???? - YouTube
21:20 Calinou sokomine: would be even more awesome if you made a mod that allowed stacking microblocks freely :-D
21:21 Calinou sokomine: markdown
21:22 NekoGloop Calinou: update your ore images D<
21:22 Calinou meh, later
21:22 Calinou it's not like the next version is even released
21:22 sokomine stacking microblocks freely? what do you mean by that exactly?
21:22 Calinou NekoGloop: wait, I updated lumps and ingots already
21:23 NekoGloop Calinou: look at your pickaxes as well
21:23 Calinou sokomine: eg. place a microblock inside another one, it makes a panel/slab/stair/whatever should be made
21:23 Calinou not sure if even possible
21:23 NekoGloop not yet.
21:23 NekoGloop yell at celeron
21:23 Calinou NekoGloop: meh, different pickaxes are more original :P
21:23 NekoGloop then could you at least have them be shaded a tad bit better
21:24 sokomine ah, ok. but that's less necessary with the circularsaw. it comes with glue. just drop the unwanted microblocks into the recycle-slot and pull out the desired slab. it does however need at least one full block in the input slot in order to know which material ought to be used
21:26 sokomine plus some textures would be good :-) anyone here who'd like to do one for the circular saw?
21:27 NekoGloop if i knew what a circular saw was sure :D
21:28 sokomine i used wikipedia to translate "Kreissäge"
21:28 sokomine it is basicly a table with a large sawblade inserted vertically in the middle of the table. you push your wood horizontally against the sawblade
21:29 NekoGloop oh! i know what that is!
21:29 sokomine maybe a nodebox would be better fitting. right now it looks like a furnace. the alternate would be a chest...i'm not good at textures .(
21:29 NekoGloop ... but I cant texture something that complex :D
21:29 sokomine fine :-)
21:30 NekoGloop also try using nodeboxes to at least make it look like a saw
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21:30 sokomine hm. it might be a box. that would be safer for the people operating it
21:33 sokomine do you know how to do textures for nodeboxes? i don't :-(
21:33 NekoGloop the textures are the same
21:33 NekoGloop simply the sides are changed
21:34 sokomine ok
21:35 * Calinou just installed parcellite :>
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21:45 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Calinou's head
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21:46 Calinou parcellite is linux-only :)
21:47 * NekoGloop lights Calinou's head on fire
21:47 * jakssoul throws a bucket of oil at Calinou, thinking it was water.
21:47 jakssoul Wooooops.
21:48 NekoGloop BEWM
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21:48 jakssoul Bewm?
21:48 sokomine hi taoki
21:48 NekoGloop yew bewm,
21:48 jakssoul onomatopoeia?
21:49 NekoGloop what the hell did you just call me
21:49 jakssoul Haha.
21:49 jakssoul Eres un gota.
21:49 NekoGloop 0gb.us is hacking the webpage :O
21:49 NekoGloop He's changing his avatar but he isnt online
21:49 NekoGloop :O
21:50 NekoGloop either that or he has some kind of wierd avatar encryption thingy of some kind
21:50 Calinou heh
21:50 Calinou once on minecraft forums i seen someone whose avatar was automagically changing (every hour or so)
21:50 Calinou possible -- if you can upload from an URL
21:50 Calinou just change the image at the URL
21:51 NekoGloop or write a thing to do it for you
21:52 Taoki hi
21:54 Calinou hi
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21:58 jakssoul Alright, since I've got a decent connection, I am going to play Minetest online. Server recommendation? First response is the one I go to.
21:59 jakssoul Nevermind, going to VanessaE's.
22:00 Calinou jakssoul: redcrab.suret.net port 30401
22:00 Calinou or VanessaE's
22:00 jakssoul I'll hop on redcrab later, probably.
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22:01 NekoGloop for redcrab expect to walk for half an hour to reach a place that you can build
22:01 jakssoul Haha, wow.
22:01 mauvebic they should put a train lol
22:01 jakssoul How can I check my x,y,z coordinates during a game?
22:02 mauvebic F5
22:02 jakssoul Thanks.
22:02 Oblivion1500 Calinou: do you know if OldCoder is going to fix the technician image issue for the furnace any time soon?
22:03 jakssoul /giveme mauvebic's:money ALL
22:03 jakssoul Darn.
22:03 jakssoul :p
22:05 mauvebic i dont think you can use latinum bars on other servers lol
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22:06 OldCoder Hi!
22:06 OldCoder Oblivion1500, I will do whatever you wish right now if you have the patch
22:07 OldCoder I can't write new mod code for you ATM. I can only make tweaks. I am learning the mod framework from the outside in.
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22:08 Oblivion1500 i dont know lua but the code looks ectreamly simple just a recepie add and im not talking about the tech glitch im talking about zegs protection mod, ill go ahead and do that now. do you know the item code for steel ingots and stone?
22:08 Traxie21 Is VanessaE?
22:08 Traxie21 ton?
22:08 Traxie21 sheesh
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22:09 Traxie21 Is VanessaE on?
22:09 NekoGloop you dont need to press "t" to talk here ;-)
22:09 Muadtralk is vanessaE ever not on?
22:09 Traxie21 I mean, is she active
22:09 Traxie21 Lol
22:09 Traxie21 Bad habit
22:10 Muadtralk I dont think so
22:10 Traxie21 kape
22:10 Muadtralk if she hasnt responded yet
22:10 Muadtralk then no
22:11 Oblivion1500 OldCoder: i dont know lua but the code looks ectreamly simple just a recepie add and im not talking about the tech glitch im talking about zegs protection mod, ill go ahead and do that now. do you know the item code for steel ingots and stone?
22:11 OldCoder Oblivion1500, I have spent some time on MT the last week. I can update and I will fix glooptest right now for example. But my spare time for the week is gone. You will need to try the patch yourself if it is needed now.
22:11 OldCoder See above... I got IRL stuff flying at me
22:11 OldCoder Barking
22:11 OldCoder "Bark! Bark!"
22:11 OldCoder Needs to be handled right now
22:11 OldCoder I spent a lot of time on this and will return to it... but the mod is in your hands for today
22:12 Oblivion1500 ok ill try, lol ill do the testing on my own singleplayer game, ill let you know when its compleate, first time working in lua here i come lol
22:12 OldCoder Good luck!
22:12 Oblivion1500 thanks
22:12 celeron55 http://northpole.fi/download/134761582267067/rms%20GNU_Linux.jpg
22:12 OldCoder it will be fine long term
22:12 OldCoder Do not worry if it does not work initially
22:12 OldCoder celeron55, Hi! o/
22:12 Traxie21 ohi celeron :D
22:13 Traxie21 Oh god
22:13 Muadtralk greetings
22:13 Traxie21 Not that meme again :L
22:13 Oblivion1500 im sure it will from what im looking at, will i need to compile anything? or just edit the code and start the game?
22:13 OldCoder celeron55, See PM but if busy ttyl
22:13 OldCoder Oblivion1500, Just edit and restart
22:13 OldCoder It's interpreted
22:13 Oblivion1500 easy!
22:13 OldCoder Well, if you make a typo...
22:13 OldCoder Game won't start
22:13 OldCoder It's fine. Debug this can be fun.
22:14 john_minetest bye
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22:18 kaeza OldCoder: do you have any precompiled bins for Linux Mint?
22:18 kaeza (of minetest)
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22:19 celeron55 21:32:13 < karchnu> celeron55: here ? I've translated the game in french but I don't know how to test it.
22:20 celeron55 there are many translations hanging around without being put upstream, and nobody knows where the most up-to-date ones are; it's one of those things nobody really cares about enough to actually spend the time to sort it out
22:23 Traxie21 Thanks for all the work you do on the game celeron!
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22:25 celeron55 somebody can take sorting that out as their job if they wish to, and come on #minetest-dev with stuff ready to be merged (or tweaked and then merged)
22:26 celeron55 i am glad you like it though :P
22:26 Muadtralk isnt there already a french translation?
22:27 Oblivion1500 OldCoder: well i learned how to do it and found out that zeg had already patched it, you can get his latest patch from
22:27 Oblivion1500 https://github.com/Zeg9/minetest-protect/archive/master.zip
22:27 Oblivion1500 or https://github.com/Zeg9/minetest-protect/
22:27 moltenbot Oblivion1500's link: Zeg9/minetest-protect ? GitHub
22:27 OldCoder Oblivion1500, This is a new update?
22:27 OldCoder if so I will pull now
22:27 OldCoder Proceeding
22:28 Oblivion1500 yes zeg fixed it so it has the resipie
22:28 Oblivion1500 lol wow my spelling is off bad today
22:28 OldCoder It is not a crime
22:28 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on celeron55's head
22:28 OldCoder Spellcrime U.S.A... catchy song
22:28 Oblivion1500 if it was i would be put away for a long time
22:29 celeron55 Muadtralk: most likely, altough it's most likely very old and incomplete in the latest veersion
22:29 celeron55 -e
22:29 Muadtralk ahhh
22:30 Muadtralk !up zenoheld.minetest.net
22:30 moltenbot Minetest server zenoheld.minetest.net:30000 DOWN
22:30 Minetest-tan Muadtralk: zenoheld.minetest.net seems to be down
22:30 Muadtralk grrrr
22:31 kaeza celeron55: I can contribute a Spanish translation
22:32 kaeza will this ever be in master?
22:33 kaeza inb4 search launchpad
22:33 Muadtralk I would assume it would be added
22:33 Muadtralk after all there doesnt appear to be one in the master now
22:33 celeron55 launchpad has many translations, somebody'd need to figure out how to apply them to minetest
22:33 kaeza hmm... let me find it
22:33 celeron55 and then there are multiple random ones
22:34 celeron55 probably like four new french ones :D
22:34 kaeza yeah, but I mean the average joe minetest user does not have any idea how to install translations
22:35 kaeza hmm
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22:36 Muadtralk I was trying to compile the french translation out of boredum one night. I was having issues compiling it (anyone else having this issue?)
22:36 NekoGloop minetest.conf should have a language option
22:36 * jakssoul high fives celeron55.
22:36 kaeza NekoGloop: +1
22:36 jakssoul NekoGloop +1
22:36 jakssoul Actually, + rainbowkitten.
22:37 kaeza no
22:37 NekoGloop :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
22:37 kaeza +longcat
22:37 * jakssoul puts a rainbow kitten on Nekogloops shoulder.
22:37 NekoGloop +ceilingcat
22:37 jakssoul It's a rainbow kitten/parrot thing.
22:37 * jakssoul duct-tapes a cat to the ceiling and starts throwing rocks at it.
22:38 jakssoul Be right back, gotta try that out.
22:40 marktraceur jakssoul: s/ceiling/ceiling fan/ and we have more of a challenge
22:41 * jakssoul walks back in to the chatroom.
22:41 Muadtralk monorail cat!
22:41 Calinou Muadtralk: doesn't work since like long time ago :p
22:41 jakssoul So, yeah. Cat wasn't very happy.
22:41 sapier wrong monorail cart is working
22:41 kaeza serious cat is serious
22:43 klunk What is supposed to be translated ? tabs Singleplayer, Multiplayer, Settings, ..., or help bubbles ingame ? This is not same deal for both, wrong ?
22:43 Muadtralk OMG cat is not phased by seriousness
22:44 jakssoul Cat that has met jakssoul is not phased by anything.
22:44 jakssoul It's dead.
22:45 Muadtralk zippocat has a friend now
22:45 NekoGloop All of the sense is with the cats.
22:46 Calinou cat seriousness
22:46 klunk does cats know why we don't have internationalisation files ?
22:46 Muadtralk yes
22:46 klunk I know the fish is knows but after ...
22:47 Muadtralk the cat on my shoulder gave me a nod
22:47 Muadtralk they know it all
22:47 jakssoul I wish Christians were right, and the Anti-Christ would be real. He'd rise to power and rule the one world government, and I would hold him hostage until he signed a bill outlawing the ownership of cats.
22:47 jakssoul That's rather convoluted, isn't it?
22:47 klunk ouch, but I like cats
22:47 Calinou klunk: tooltips are not translated ;)
22:50 klunk Calinou: you mean field "description = " in node_register ?
22:51 Calinou we need a way to read some language files: in "languages" folder, a "fr" folder for french, with files named such as "moreblocks.txt" which contain lines such as "moreblocks:stonebrick = "Briques de pierre""
22:52 Calinou then we need to create a forum section about it
22:52 Calinou then people can post their language packs
22:52 Calinou oh and we need translations for the default mods too. and fix the gettext stuff ;)
22:52 klunk I totaly agree
22:53 kaeza Calinou: better would be to implement a gettext-like interface for Lua
22:53 NekoGloop such could be done in a mod.
22:53 kaeza print(_("Hello"))
22:53 Calinou it needs to be easy for translators to distribute their stuff
22:53 Calinou but yes, would work
22:53 Calinou also, easy for modders to implement...
22:53 Calinou .po files need to be generated
22:53 * Calinou never got it
22:54 klunk I was thinking about a mod for all wich can be seen ingame
22:54 klunk ah .po too ... but are they linux user only ?
22:55 kaeza NekoGloop: doing it in a mod would require *every* mod to depend on it
22:55 Muadtralk I don't believe so
22:55 kaeza it would be better if this was in builtin
22:55 Muadtralk shouldnt be linux only
22:55 klunk no, just deal with default first
22:55 NekoGloop or we could force it to load last by having a crapton of z's in front of the directory's name.
22:55 klunk Muadtralk: shouldn't, I agree :-)
22:56 kaeza Muadtralk: I don't mean a *real* gettext interface
22:56 Muadtralk no I believe c55 keeps most things generic in minetest
22:56 kaeza just some similar api completely written in lua
22:56 jakssoul When Jesus stays at a hotel he gives the clerk 3 nails and says "can you put me up for the night?"
22:56 klunk after default, you make a mod, you deal with its internatio files like sound, whatever else
22:57 jakssoul Or is that too inappropriate? Bahahahhaha.
22:57 kaeza T minus 5 seconds for +q
22:57 kaeza :P
22:57 jakssoul +q?
22:58 kaeza nvm
22:58 jakssoul No, tell me please.
22:58 jakssoul Kick?
22:58 Zetetic jakssoul: mute
22:58 NekoGloop I've answered these questions so many times
22:58 jakssoul Ahhh.
22:58 NekoGloop forums, y u shitty
22:58 Calinou night
22:58 NekoGloop I've just started answering with "fuck you", let's see if that works.
22:59 jakssoul Well, I'll make sure not to tell any other jokes. But.. HAAHAHA.. :D
22:59 kaeza hmm... I just noticed, we are missing a big point
22:59 marktraceur kaeza: I don't think that's offensive enough to qualify for a +q
22:59 NekoGloop LOL
22:59 jakssoul It's not!? Yay! Anybody wanna hear some more? xD
22:59 kaeza marktraceur: the ":P" should have been enough to suggest I was kidding :P
22:59 NekoGloop saying "fuck you" like 20 times as the PunBB questions answers actually worked. :DDDDDDDDD
22:59 marktraceur jakssoul: That said, I wouldn't go much further. It's really not a place for religious jokes
23:00 jakssoul Haha, sorry. I just have no friends, and figured some of you guys might appreciate them. But I will tell no more.
23:00 kaeza as I was saying, we are missing a big point in this translation thing
23:00 kaeza there's no way to get what's the current language from Lua
23:00 marktraceur jakssoul: You should stop hanging out in IRC and hang out somewhere else instead
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23:01 kaeza oh crap
23:01 jakssoul left #minetest
23:01 kaeza nvm
23:01 jojoa1997 how long is a day in minetest
23:01 jojoa1997 in real world time
23:01 Muadtralk dang it i had a witty comeback at jakssoul
23:01 kaeza is os.getenv("LANG") enough to get the current language?
23:02 kaeza I don't think so
23:02 kaeza at least on Win
23:02 NakedFury im watching Macgyver because there is nothing better right now
23:02 klunk jojoa1997: it depends parameters of a file; you talkking about server or singleplayer ?
23:03 jojoa1997 server
23:03 jojoa1997 i am talking about minetest.org 30010
23:03 jojoa1997 if that helps
23:04 LAD jojoa??
23:04 LAD PM
23:04 jojoa1997 yeah
23:05 klunk jojoa1997: ok solved ?
23:05 LAD jojoa1997 PM
23:05 jojoa1997 klunk solved what?
23:05 NekoGloop dafgadfdsagfs
23:05 NekoGloop where the fuck is the mesecons page
23:05 kaeza hmm... just a question
23:05 NekoGloop oh dammit
23:06 Zetetic mesecons.net
23:06 klunk jojoa1997: how long is a day on server you talking about ?
23:06 kaeza mesecons.tk?
23:06 marktraceur kaeza: Maybe we should work on getting proper i18n support into Minetest? (heh, like we haven't been here before)
23:06 jojoa1997 ii dont know
23:06 kaeza marktraceur: +1, that should also be available to mods
23:08 NakedFury no subtitles dammit
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23:11 kaeza marktraceur: also, somebody should actually implement routines to use unicode fonts
23:12 kaeza err, I mean, fonts containing unicode characters
23:13 kaeza like TrueType
23:13 celeron55 < NekoGloop> minetest.conf should have a language option
23:13 NekoGloop inb4 "why do you care"
23:13 celeron55 operating systems and standard libraries have since forever supported locales, and minetest with gettext supports them too
23:14 celeron55 configuration options go completely against all that machinery
23:14 NekoGloop then have a "default" setting which does that
23:14 NekoGloop and other settings which force it to a language
23:14 NekoGloop :P
23:14 celeron55 you didn't understand
23:14 kaeza NekoGloop: under Windows set the LANG variable in control panel :)
23:15 kaeza e.g. LANG=fr
23:15 NekoGloop I can actually do that, it's under system IIRC
23:15 kaeza under Linux it's as simple as doing LANG=fr minetest
23:16 jojoa1997 what are the cords for aquas maze of doom
23:16 NekoGloop i have no idea
23:18 kaeza jojoa1997: on what server?
23:18 kaeza 30004?
23:18 jojoa1997 private i mean the map in the forums one sec
23:18 jojoa1997 unless you are talking about the time thing
23:19 klunk Are they some /po in Minetest 0.4.4 sources ?
23:21 klunk we don't need french or whatelse translation, we need to be agree on a internationnalisation common way
23:22 klunk wich is based on something already existing ?
23:23 kaeza klunk: this would first require the engine to accept unicode strings
23:24 Elench It doesn't?
23:24 kaeza not yet IIRC
23:25 Elench Oh, I'd have expected that
23:25 kaeza it spews error messages whenever i type "áéíóú"
23:26 Elench Well, you could be sending the wrong kind of Unicode string :)
23:26 FreeFull Æəıøŭ
23:27 kaeza El veloz murciélago comía felíz cardillo y kiwi. La cigüeña tocaba el saxofón detrás del palenque de paja."
23:28 kaeza :P
23:28 NekoGloop so, will we go to 0.10 or 1.0 when we get there? ;-)
23:28 kaeza our version of "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog"
23:32 kaeza lol Google Translate phail: "The quick brown happy eating thistle and kiwi. The stork played the saxophone behind the straw arena."
23:33 Elench Hmm, thistle and kiwi
23:34 NekoGloop what is it supposed to say
23:35 NekoGloop may i ask a question about including a game folder in a minetest world?
23:35 marktraceur NekoGloop: You may always ask questions here!
23:36 NekoGloop does it still display the gamename that is in the world.mt file?
23:36 marktraceur Hm, probably
23:36 NekoGloop and does it actually ignore mods in the mods/ directory?
23:37 marktraceur I do not know
23:37 NekoGloop can i yell at someone for not making mesecons textures?
23:38 marktraceur You can
23:38 NekoGloop and indeed it does ignore other mods.
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23:42 marktraceur Oh man, I just got sema4_'s nickname. That's awesome.
23:42 sema4_ :D
23:42 sema4_ semaphore does not fit in 8 characters.
23:42 NekoGloop Oh nice, i was expecting the vertical mesecons to be shit but they actually looks quite nice
23:43 NekoGloop sema4_: um what?
23:43 NekoGloop neither does my name :)
23:43 marktraceur Nor mine
23:43 sema4_ yeah but when i was choosing a nic many systems had 8 char limitations
23:44 marktraceur sema4_: I bet your processes always get I/O priority :P
23:44 marktraceur Ohh, bad CS jokes. It's that time of day.
23:46 sema4_ sorry, write blocked waiting for witty comeback
23:47 NekoGloop error: timeout while waiting for intelligent conversation
23:47 sema4 hah
23:48 NekoGloop if someone could be so nice as to update hatches and gates to the new mesecons api that woud be lovely :)
23:48 FreeFull Can anyone help compiling minetest 0.3.x? I get /home/freefull/minetest/0.3.1/src/content_cao.cpp:907:60: error: cannot allocate an object of abstract type ‘irr::scene::MyBillboardSceneNode’
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