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00:04 paxcoder ping
00:04 VanessaE pong
00:04 paxcoder that's alright. i've just been auto +q'd from #freenode-newyears then
00:06 john_minetest going now. HNY and bye.
00:06 paxcoder john_minetest, what's upw ith having this game's name in your nick anyway?
00:07 john_minetest paxcoder: I wanted to have the nickname john but it was taken.
00:07 john_minetest but i can change my name... wait, i have one other registered...
00:07 paxcoder john_minetest, don't
00:08 john_cephalopoda Is this better?
00:08 john_cephalopoda :D
00:08 paxcoder oh you mean like a sub-nick
00:08 john_cephalopoda yeah.
00:08 paxcoder ok then
00:08 john_cephalopoda lol. cephalopoda.
00:08 paxcoder you're still john_minetest for /whois
00:08 john_cephalopoda That's my nickserv account.
00:09 paxcoder which is funny :-P
00:09 john_cephalopoda okay, now i really gtg. bye.
00:09 paxcoder paxcoder_teeworlds
00:09 paxcoder bb
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00:47 sapier1 happy new year :-)
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00:56 mauvebic better pathfinding http://ompldr.org/vZ3dlYw/pipeworks-exp-123112-1953.zip
00:59 iqualfragile yeah, happy new year
00:59 iqualfragile (well, two hours late but whateverz
00:59 iqualfragile )
01:00 iqualfragile (i should write a script wich automaticly closes any unclosed brackets)
01:01 Exio still 2012 here :P
01:01 M13 same here :P
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01:08 sapier1 @exio and m13 ... you're late ;-P
01:09 Exio we are in UTC-<somenumber> :P
01:09 Exio UTC-3 here and still 2012
01:09 sapier1 :-) as I told you're late ;-)
01:09 M13 :-)
01:11 kaeza k guys, see you next year!
01:11 sapier1 @kaeza have fun
01:11 kaeza sapier1: thanks, same for you
01:12 sapier1 thx but I already had ;-)
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01:17 iqualfragile ich auch, komm lass uns auf deutsch unterhalten um den kanal zu ärgern
01:17 sapier1 ach nee wir brauchen uns doch nich gleich im neuen jahr neue feinde machen ;-)
01:18 bas080 Happy new year
01:18 bas080 Where's the new year server at?
01:18 sapier1 happy new year to you too
01:21 OldCoder New Year Server?
01:21 OldCoder sapier1, Hi
01:21 OldCoder Happy New Year to people
01:21 sapier1 hello oldcoder happy new year
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01:23 sapier1 @oldcoder how is mobf doing do you have any problems sofar?
01:23 bas080 where we play with fireworks mod and have a happy minetest new year
01:24 OldCoder sapier1, It all works like a charm
01:24 OldCoder Except
01:24 sapier1 :-)
01:24 OldCoder Baby Face noted two interesting issues
01:24 OldCoder We are pleased in general
01:24 OldCoder Because there are fish in the water etc.
01:24 OldCoder She says...
01:24 OldCoder Hold on and I will find it
01:24 sapier1 ok
01:25 sapier1 I've just received a whole new year I've got plenty of time left for the moment :)
01:25 OldCoder sapier1, This is funny
01:25 OldCoder Wait a few minutes and I'll edit the log
01:25 kaeza OldCoder: the IRC bot now supports manual disconnection/reconnection. Next step will be automatic reconnection in case of timeout/kick/used nick/etc.
01:26 OldCoder kaeza, Cool
01:26 kaeza gotta go now. brb next year
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01:27 OldCoder kaeza, C U!
01:27 OldCoder happy new year
01:27 OldCoder sapier1, you will laugh
01:27 sapier1 I hope so :)
01:27 OldCoder First the bug report
01:27 OldCoder <babyface1031a> i like the animals but they are buggy
01:27 OldCoder <babyface1031a> at onr point there are there then they are
01:27 OldCoder gone then you leave and come back and poof they are back but
01:27 OldCoder your barns are missing
01:27 OldCoder <babyface1031a> ok i like the animals tho ty for adding them
01:28 OldCoder Now I'll save a few of the general remarks
01:29 sapier1 hmm haven't heard of barns getting lost by now ... the other problem she tells is a well known problem with entities for years
01:29 OldCoder Oh?
01:29 sapier1 on chunk load/unload minetest client often get out if sync which entities are loaded and which ain't
01:29 OldCoder sapier1, I am editing
01:30 OldCoder O.K.
01:30 OldCoder I will share a discussion with you
01:30 sapier1 thanks
01:30 kizeren Does anyone else have problems with technic marble stairs?
01:31 kizeren http://pastebin.com/HBTFQSsH
01:31 moltenbot kizeren's link: Aborttat] Loaded!  Obsidian Mod: LOADED  [HomeDecor] Loaded!  growing_trees mod  - Pastebin.com
01:32 OldCoder <babyface1031a> i wonder if the animals die
01:32 OldCoder <Dogzilla131> what?!
01:32 OldCoder <Dogzilla131> what happen to my sheep?
01:32 OldCoder <babyface1031a> what
01:32 OldCoder <Dogzilla131> he's NAKED
01:32 * OldCoder laughs
01:32 OldCoder Wait
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01:34 sapier1 @kizeren seems to be a simple lua bug
01:34 kizeren I am not very familiar with lua yet.  Any ideas?
01:35 OldCoder sapier1, Hi
01:35 OldCoder sapier1, mod authors like to see their stuff used
01:35 OldCoder http://minetest.org/animals.txt
01:35 OldCoder So there is an animals discussion
01:35 sapier1 yes it's always good to see your work is usefull for someone
01:35 OldCoder <Dogzilla131> i have one fish, do they reproduce
01:35 OldCoder <babyface1031a> idk
01:35 OldCoder <babyface1031a> i have 2 diffrent kinds
01:35 OldCoder <Dogzilla131> i have my favorite fish, clownfish
01:35 OldCoder <babyface1031a> i have that and a blue fish
01:35 OldCoder <Dogzilla131> six sheep?
01:36 OldCoder <Dogzilla131> man, they have alot of babies
01:36 OldCoder
01:36 OldCoder http://minetest.org/animals.txt
01:36 sapier1 thx I'm already about to read it
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01:44 sapier1 :-) pkeasure to read
01:44 OldCoder k!
01:44 OldCoder :-)
01:45 sapier1 completely vanishing barns is a problem I don't know about by now ... I'll have a look if I'm able to find out why this happens
01:50 sapier1 btw mobf 1.9.x gets stable more and more ... i just wonder how big your worlds do get if your players search the world for animals :-)
01:59 OldCoder Pretty large
01:59 OldCoder sapier1, ^
01:59 iqualfragile pretty large
01:59 iqualfragile ~30 mb for now
01:59 iqualfragile but not everybody has searched yet
01:59 iqualfragile i will need to minesplice the map soon
02:00 sapier1 :-) there's a feature called secondary spawn algorithm making mobs spawn in already generated areas too ... but it's risky spawning in generated areas requires much more cpu power than spawning on mapgen
02:01 sapier1 this feature is disabled by default
02:01 iqualfragile <david> Can I have some mese? :D
02:01 iqualfragile <babyface1031a> hold on got to get some
02:01 iqualfragile WTF?
02:02 sapier1 don't know ... mobf doesn't use mese for anything
02:03 iqualfragile thats not the point
02:03 iqualfragile either some mod gifts mese
02:03 iqualfragile or someone gifts his hard-earned mese
02:03 sapier1 :-)
02:04 Doc22 anyone play terraria? i have a server
02:06 iqualfragile Doc22: no, nobody plays frcking windows-only .net Steam drm terraria
02:07 Doc22 lol
02:08 Doc22 just wondering
02:10 * VanessaE is back
02:10 iqualfragile no, VanessaE fell over in shock
02:10 * VanessaE is ON HER back.
02:11 VanessaE :)
02:11 iqualfragile aah, now i get it
02:12 iqualfragile it seems to me that half the minetest-community is from germany
02:27 kaeza feliz año nuevo para todos! :)
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03:05 VanessaE kaeza: well feeliz something something something to you too :-)
03:05 VanessaE -e
03:05 kaeza thanks :)
03:06 kaeza happy new year! (is this better) :P
03:06 VanessaE lol
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03:38 kaeza back
03:39 kizeren wb
03:39 kaeza thx :)
03:42 * VanessaE fixes some (plain, unadorned) fruit punch.  Anyone care for glass?
03:42 * kaeza wants
03:43 VanessaE :)
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03:45 VanessaE rule #1 for avoiding a hangover:  drink lots of water or other sugar-free non-carbonated non-alcoholic drinks aside the alcohol to avoid dehydration :-)
03:45 kaeza rule #2: drink slowly, not all of a sudden :)
03:45 VanessaE yup
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03:56 iqualfragile or alternative rule
03:56 iqualfragile #13 dont drink
04:01 VanessaE heh
04:01 kaeza rule #34: no exceptions
04:01 VanessaE well abe and I only get two excuses to drink all year, and we don't drink any other time anyway
04:01 VanessaE so this is as good a reason as we should need :)
04:02 VanessaE kaeza: no, you did NOT just go there.
04:02 kaeza lol
04:02 iqualfragile oh dear…
04:02 iqualfragile kaeza: you did not do that, did you?
04:03 VanessaE yes, he did :-/
04:03 iqualfragile stop it diego
04:07 kaeza *ok.jpg*
04:08 kizeren Night all and Happy New Year.
04:08 VanessaE night kizeren, happy new year
04:13 kaeza :/
04:13 kaeza I need a cloak
04:17 VanessaE why?
04:18 kaeza as suggested by OC
04:18 kaeza I don't really care about it though
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04:43 hmmmm time for your daily dose people:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE
04:43 moltenbot hmmmm's link: Developers - YouTube
04:44 VanessaE is that of monkeyboy jumping around? :-)
04:44 mauvebic 17 mins to go here
04:45 mauvebic cant wait to take down the tree: cat managed to unplug half the circuits in it lol
04:46 VanessaE 14:03 to go
04:46 VanessaE (I'm watching what replaced Dick Clark's Rockin' New Year's Eve via livestream)
04:48 mauvebic i wonder if lawrence welk is on :S
04:48 mauvebic eventhough its all digital now PBS is still pretty hazy lol
04:48 VanessaE (actually it still IS Dick Clark's, they just haven't been saying so on screen here)
04:50 VanessaE 10 minutes!
04:50 mauvebic i dont even have cable subscription anymore since 6mos ago lol
04:50 VanessaE http://new.livestream.com/accounts/43923/events/1673924/player_pop_up
04:50 BackupCoder gave uo
04:50 VanessaE that'll get you the stream I'm watching, in theory
04:51 BackupCoder gave up tv in 07
04:51 mauvebic seriously when they make a show worth watching ill think about buying the boxset otherwise lol
04:51 VanessaE BackupCoder: we don't even own a TV here.  an antenna + tv tuner that aren't even hooked up, to the projection system you saw in my home model
04:52 ecube What programs would you watch TV for, anyway?
04:52 ecube the internet/newspaper is good enough
04:52 VanessaE who knows, reruns of old stuff on TV Land maybe, if we had it.  Or cartoons.
04:52 ecube and the extra time that you get from not watching TV could be spent with your fellow minetesters
04:53 mauvebic most of the shows you get into these days get cancelled because of cost
04:54 VanessaE yup
04:54 VanessaE old stuff on Blu Ray or DVD is enough for me for the most part now
04:54 VanessaE e.g. star trek or whatever
04:54 VanessaE I refuse to pay for commercials e.g. cable TV
04:54 ecube the only thing on TV worth watching now is news, and you can use the internet for that
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04:55 VanessaE 5 minutes!
04:55 mauvebic besides who has time to be home at just the right time to catch your favorite show? lol most ppl dont do 9-5 anymore
04:55 TorpedoSkyline VanessaE, 5 minutes for you, 1:05 for me. ;P
04:55 VanessaE TorpedoSkyline: what, doesn'
04:55 VanessaE doesn
04:55 VanessaE ARGH!
04:55 TorpedoSkyline lol xD
04:56 VanessaE doesn't everyone go by New York time? ;)
04:56 VanessaE what moron put the apostrophe so close to Enter? :-)
04:56 ecube the people who invented the qwerty keyboard
04:56 VanessaE heh
04:56 ecube who happened to be too lazy to fix their typewriters to go faster
04:57 TorpedoSkyline lol
04:57 VanessaE you sure about that?  I remember reading somewhere that that theory/story was debunked
04:58 ecube http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Querty#History_and_purposes
04:58 moltenbot ecube's link: QWERTY - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
04:58 mauvebic thats nothing, in quebec we got these shitty combined french/english keyboards that dont work properly with either settings lol
04:58 ecube "The solution was to place commonly used letter-pairs (like "th" or "st") so that their typebars were not neighboring, avoiding jams."
04:58 ecube the sentence after that is a lie
04:58 kaeza great, so now we have "typewriters" (PC keyboards) that are extremely fast and people still use DVORAK. *genius*
04:59 ecube that was the reason the designers gave
04:59 VanessaE here we go
04:59 ecube kaeza: people still use QWERTY
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04:59 VanessaE 50
04:59 jojoa1997 HAPPY NEW YERS
04:59 ecube and they should use DVORAK
04:59 jojoa1997 YEARS
04:59 VanessaE 40
04:59 jojoa1997 bbl
04:59 VanessaE 30
04:59 ecube happy new year, jojoa1997, because I've still got 4 more hours, minus 58 minutes
04:59 jojoa1997 20
04:59 VanessaE 20
04:59 jojoa1997 cool
05:00 kaeza 30
05:00 jojoa1997 10
05:00 kaeza 40
05:00 ecube lol
05:00 jojoa1997 5
05:00 jojoa1997 1
05:00 jojoa1997 no3
05:00 jojoa1997 now
05:00 jojoa1997 for me it is 2013 yay i survived 2012
05:00 kaeza merry christmas!!!
05:00 kaeza whoops
05:00 ecube happy new year for those in the east coast
05:00 jojoa1997 thanks
05:01 VanessaE HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!
05:01 * VanessaE gets drunk
05:01 kaeza lol
05:01 kaeza jojoa1997: you from brazil right?
05:01 jojoa1997 from 2 states below vanessa
05:02 kaeza oh your name sounded portuguese
05:02 kaeza sowwy
05:02 jojoa1997 for joseph
05:02 kaeza oh
05:02 kaeza I thought is was joao
05:02 kaeza sowwy again
05:03 ecube I never thought about that
05:04 jojoa1997 so for the real reason i came how do you make an entity die when they go in water i just cant figure it out this is my github
05:04 jojoa1997 https://github.com/jojoa1997/peaceful_npc
05:04 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: jojoa1997/peaceful_npc ? GitHub
05:04 jojoa1997 bbl
05:04 jojoa1997 think about the prob
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05:04 jojoa1997 please
05:05 Muadtralk happy new year from EST!
05:05 Muadtralk :P
05:05 * VanessaE gets drunker :D  *hic*
05:05 VanessaE *hic*
05:05 jojoa1997 cya bb in a hour
05:05 Muadtralk only sober person in my house atm
05:05 Muadtralk :P
05:05 VanessaE lol
05:05 VanessaE why!?
05:05 Muadtralk underaged
05:05 Muadtralk not that it matters in my household
05:06 ecube I find alcoholic drinks too bitter for my taste
05:06 VanessaE you're under 21?  I got the impression for some reason that you were closer to my age
05:06 VanessaE meh, you'll have a chance soon enough :)
05:06 Muadtralk eh most of my family has been drinking since they were 5
05:06 VanessaE ecube: André "Spumante" sparkling wine
05:06 Muadtralk i just never picked up the habit
05:07 mauvebic im part scott and french, so obviously i have a alcohol:blood content :p
05:07 ecube Maybe it's because my first impression of alcohol was isopropyl alcohol
05:07 kaeza wait... you though Muadtralk was about 60? lol
05:07 VanessaE o.O
05:07 ecube and the second one was in natural ice
05:07 VanessaE I'm VanessaE, not OldCoder :D
05:07 ecube lol
05:07 Muadtralk and i thought VanessaE was rather young
05:07 Muadtralk not too young
05:07 Muadtralk maybe 36
05:08 kaeza nah, she looks like 18
05:08 kaeza (x4)
05:08 VanessaE holy shit I think I'm already smashed
05:08 Muadtralk good for you
05:08 VanessaE I've only had one drink so far!
05:09 iqualfragile VanessaE: in most countries you are allowed to drink way earlier then 21
05:09 Muadtralk ive already heard enough broken glass and mary jane tonight
05:09 VanessaE Muadtralk: close enough :D
05:09 iqualfragile here in germany its 16, and if you are in a restaurant eating something and have your parrents with you its 14
05:09 mauvebic here's one of me done recently: http://www.fineartlib.info/plugins/p17_image_gallery/images/3/653.jpg
05:09 kaeza iqualfragile: where I live, the legality of it doesn't really matter lol
05:09 iqualfragile here neither
05:09 kaeza we have 13 year olds getting drunk
05:10 iqualfragile but thats just whats legal and 16 is a lot less then 21
05:10 * kaeza lives in what you would consider a ghetto
05:10 Muadtralk I live in the boonies
05:10 iqualfragile i do absoulutely not live in a getto
05:10 Muadtralk :P
05:10 iqualfragile but still… germans love alcohol
05:11 kaeza lol
05:11 Muadtralk my high class socialite german family works out very well
05:11 iqualfragile we have 13 year olds getting drunk, too
05:11 iqualfragile but its more common to start drinking with ~14
05:11 kaeza I always ask where are the parents of those children
05:11 iqualfragile whats worse is that they start smoking, too
05:11 kaeza they should be hanged
05:11 iqualfragile kaeza: nope
05:12 iqualfragile they have no idea
05:12 mauvebic perhaps both parents are working
05:12 iqualfragile even those who care
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05:12 kaeza In my experience here, there are quite a few parents who send their children to work for them
05:12 mauvebic i pulled alot of dumb shit in my youth but i dont blame my parents for it lol
05:13 kaeza they *know* about those addictions
05:13 kaeza and yet they do nothing about it
05:13 Muadtralk I have crashed the computer mainframe at my school several times
05:13 Kacey hello
05:13 kaeza hey Kacey!
05:13 Muadtralk i got only get caught when i fileshare
05:13 kaeza happy new year
05:13 Kacey are we talking about crashing the school network?
05:13 ecube it depends on where in the world you are
05:14 ecube damn... only a small percentage of the world left in 2012
05:14 ecube good-bye, 2012! *sobs*
05:14 Muadtralk no we are talking about dumb shit
05:14 Kacey 2 hours of dos mil doce for me
05:15 kaeza tu español apesta Kacey
05:15 kaeza :P
05:15 Kacey hey kaeza ##kacey
05:15 mauvebic its the same time in mexico and peru right?
05:15 Kacey que?
05:15 Muadtralk thats why I said happy new year from EST
05:15 Kacey lol
05:15 Muadtralk much more specific
05:15 ecube i think mexico is 1-3 hours behind peru
05:15 ecube nvm i was thinking about brazil
05:16 ecube nvm that, i was right the first time
05:16 iqualfragile i have allready used 6 hours of 1213
05:16 iqualfragile 2013
05:17 mauvebic im not going to bed soon anyhow lol
05:17 iqualfragile im sorry, timetraveled a lot lately, still having a bit of a problem remembering the right dates
05:18 iqualfragile kaeza: but its not that bad (alcohol) midle-europeans (germans, polish people) have geneticly adapted to alcohol-consumption
05:18 mauvebic i had a sixpack over the course of the evening
05:18 kaeza heh
05:18 mauvebic all time record was 36 in a day
05:19 kaeza that's one of the german stereotypes
05:19 iqualfragile ( im not kidding )
05:19 iqualfragile no, its not
05:19 iqualfragile im german
05:19 kaeza either a beer addict or a hitler
05:19 Kacey im german and redneck
05:19 iqualfragile neither
05:19 Kacey octoberfest?
05:19 Muadtralk my relatives still having full cognitive power when beating me at tengen tetris is a testament to how correct that stereotype is
05:19 Kacey or however it is spelled
05:19 iqualfragile and most nazis live outside of germany nowadays
05:19 kaeza oktoberfest*
05:19 ecube hahaha.... *backs away from the channel*
05:19 Kacey yah!!!!
05:19 Muadtralk I believe they have been drinking nonstop since......
05:20 Muadtralk about when they woke up
05:20 iqualfragile its realy genetics!
05:20 Kacey yah!!!!
05:20 iqualfragile in the middle-age everybody had to drink beer
05:20 Kacey nein!!!
05:20 iqualfragile because the water was too poluted to drink
05:20 Kacey true...
05:21 Muadtralk and it was some evil beer at that I would assume
05:21 Muadtralk :P
05:21 iqualfragile so even the young girls drunk it
05:21 mauvebic heck here they still dumped raw sewage into the river well into the 70s lol
05:21 iqualfragile and those who had problems converting alcohol just died
05:21 * Kacey must not say anything or look like a perv
05:21 Muadtralk why not?
05:22 iqualfragile so the ones left had a natural alcohol-resistance
05:22 Kacey <iqualfragile> so even the young girls drunk it | no reason...
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05:22 Muadtralk I can't fathom how that could be perverted
05:22 iqualfragile thats why germans have less problems with lots of alcohol
05:22 Muadtralk explain Kacey
05:22 mauvebic black stockings
05:22 Kacey no just no
05:22 Muadtralk PM me then
05:23 Muadtralk you have awakened my curiousity
05:23 iqualfragile i know 16 year olds wich can drink half a bottle of wodka without greater problems
05:23 mauvebic lol only half?
05:23 iqualfragile 16 year old girl
05:23 Kacey hell i can down a bottle and a half before the floor hits my face
05:23 Muadtralk the other half go to burning things?
05:23 Muadtralk :P
05:23 Kacey and im younger
05:24 Kacey lol  thats where my extra half goes
05:24 kaeza talking to my mom on chat: <lalala is typing> (one hour later): Hi!
05:24 mauvebic first time i got drunk was on 40oz of vodka (i thought it looked like water so must not be strong) lol
05:24 iqualfragile well, im off now
05:24 mauvebic nity nite
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05:24 iqualfragile its 6:30 around here so i gues its time to go to bed
05:25 iqualfragile (or wake up if you arent a nerd)
05:25 mauvebic pm?
05:25 iqualfragile we use 24 hours
05:25 mauvebic i use the klingon calendar
05:25 mauvebic :p
05:25 * iqualfragile uses bed
05:25 * mauvebic tucks
05:25 Muadtralk long as it isnt lunar.....
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05:33 jojoa1997 joined #minetest
05:33 jojoa1997 im back :-)
05:33 khonkhortisan joined #minetest
05:33 jojoa1997 who is still here
05:33 mauvebic the holy ghost
05:34 jojoa1997 that i was talking to earlier
05:34 jojoa1997 vanessae?
05:34 Muadtralk I am alive :P
05:34 mauvebic i left ten minutes ago
05:34 VanessaE yes?
05:35 jojoa1997 oh
05:35 VanessaE I'm only here in spirit - I'
05:35 VanessaE m too drunk to give a shit now :D
05:35 jojoa1997 well sweet dreams :-)
05:35 VanessaE lol
05:36 jojoa1997 so does anyone know how to make an entity die when in water
05:36 mauvebic *here in spirits?
05:36 mauvebic :p
05:36 VanessaE mauvebic: LOLOLOLO
05:36 kaeza +L :P
05:36 jojoa1997 all i hade was carbonated grape juice
05:36 jojoa1997 underaged rocks no hangovers yay
05:37 jojoa1997 if i am responsible ofcurse
05:37 jojoa1997 ofcourse
05:38 kaeza :P
05:38 Muadtralk responsible?
05:38 Muadtralk are you insane?
05:38 VanessaE jojoa1997: solution:  rink lots of water while you're hitting the sauce - you won't get hungover then
05:39 jojoa1997 you know when you do the right thing i have very good parents
05:39 Muadtralk being irresponsible is so much fun!
05:39 VanessaE drink too
05:39 VanessaE fuck I'm plastered
05:39 * VanessaE laughds hysterically
05:39 Muadtralk maybe I should have drank all the alcohol i got offered today
05:39 VanessaE Abe is equally pissed
05:39 Muadtralk then maybe I could sleep....
05:40 jojoa1997 nah im fine i water is what i get drunk oin seems like your solution does not work LOL
05:40 mauvebic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbgv8PkO9eo
05:40 moltenbot mauvebic's link: Harry Nilsson - Coconut (1971) - YouTube
05:41 jojoa1997 so that is anyone that is not drunk or can help tell me how to make the code i have given up here is my git https://github.com/jojoa1997/peaceful_npc/blob/master/init.lua
05:41 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: peaceful_npc/init.lua at master ? jojoa1997/peaceful_npc ? GitHub
05:42 jojoa1997 or should i ask later
05:43 mauvebic ive been working on the same nodebox for 3 hours so im probably no help tonight lol
05:43 Muadtralk couldnt you just give it a check to see what node the entity is in at the given moment
05:43 Muadtralk and if it is in water remove?
05:43 jojoa1997 VanessaE : one word ASPIRIN
05:44 Muadtralk ie get the post and cross reference to the nearest node?
05:44 jojoa1997 it dies when it is in water
05:44 jojoa1997 when the head is
05:44 * VanessaE screams at the top of her lungs for no reasons whatsoever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05:44 * jojoa1997 whinpers
05:44 * jojoa1997 wimpers
05:44 Muadtralk x-1?
05:44 kaeza aaaaaaand she's drunk :P
05:45 OldCoder Hi!
05:45 kaeza 3hey OldCoder
05:45 VanessaE totally shitfaced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05:45 kaeza lolol
05:45 jojoa1997 oldcoder give me interact on minetest.org 30010
05:45 mauvebic ill be making coffee soon wife's on a nightshift anyhow
05:45 * VanessaE laughs uncontrollably!!!!!!
05:45 OldCoder jojoa1997, coming now
05:45 OldCoder jojoa1997, it was not supposed to be an interact world
05:45 * OldCoder sighs
05:45 OldCoder It was supposed to be a demo
05:46 Kacey ooh god VanessaE's drunk
05:46 OldCoder jojoa1997, what time zone are you in?
05:46 OldCoder kaeza, hi
05:46 OldCoder kaeza, you are 2nd in a list
05:46 jojoa1997 OldCoder, markdveimanius gave it to me befor the switchover
05:46 kaeza OldCoder: happy new year ^_^
05:46 OldCoder jojoa1997, what switchover?
05:46 OldCoder kaeza, HNY!
05:46 kaeza OldCoder: ?
05:46 OldCoder jojoa1997, explain
05:46 VanessaE Kacey: 6 sheets to the wind :D
05:46 VanessaE *hic*
05:46 jojoa1997 when the server went from him to you
05:46 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi!
05:46 jojoa1997 hosting wise
05:46 OldCoder jojoa1997, go on
05:46 VanessaE hi OldCoder !
05:46 OldCoder explain
05:46 OldCoder VanessaE, not you
05:46 OldCoder VanessaE, Happy New year
05:47 VanessaE yes me!  happy new year :D
05:47 OldCoder jojoa1997, what do you mean, gave it to you?
05:47 jojoa1997 i asked him and he gave me it to help him build but when i sign on now the priv is gone
05:47 jojoa1997 granted it to me
05:47 OldCoder jojoa1997, this is news to me
05:47 OldCoder PM please
05:47 jojoa1997 i asked him ingame
05:47 VanessaE if I had any intelligence I'd sign off now but I DON"T CARE!!!!!
05:47 jojoa1997 ok
05:47 VanessaE :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D
05:47 OldCoder VanessaE, don't
05:47 kaeza lololol
05:47 OldCoder VanessaE, we are glad to have you
05:47 OldCoder kaeza, I will announce officially here
05:48 OldCoder kaeza, and work up a page later
05:48 OldCoder kaeza IRC mod is proudly featured as part of the OldCoder modset
05:48 kaeza OldCoder: may I ask announce what=
05:48 kaeza ?*
05:48 kaeza oh
05:48 OldCoder kaeza, you asked me
05:48 OldCoder If it was official
05:48 kaeza right
05:48 OldCoder I have been helping people to compile all day
05:48 OldCoder etc.
05:48 OldCoder So have not produced an updated page
05:48 OldCoder That features the mod
05:48 OldCoder I will try to do so tonight
05:49 * OldCoder sighs
05:49 OldCoder 2 people need help elsewhere
05:49 OldCoder excuse me
05:49 kaeza OldCoder: good news: I also fixed a bug at pack_mod time with CMake < 2.8.7
05:49 kaeza I already got xy to compile
05:49 * Kacey goes off to find bread
05:52 * jojoa1997 eats Kacey's bread nom nom nom
05:52 OldCoder kaeza, K I will update
05:52 Kacey i dont have it yet
05:52 VanessaE I justrealized you guys have never seen me like this.  How do I look!!!!!
05:52 VanessaE :D :D:D;D :D:D:D:DD:
05:52 Kacey like a bunch of letters lol
05:52 kaeza OldCoder: you don't need to currently
05:52 jojoa1997 very good (in words)
05:53 * Kacey comes back with bread
05:53 * kaeza wants bread
05:53 * Kacey hands VanessaE the bread
05:53 Kacey here sober up a little
05:53 VanessaE fuckthe bread *throwsit atthenearest nyancat*
05:53 VanessaE OMG
05:53 kaeza lolwut
05:53 Kacey you are more drunk than me after a bottle and a half of vodka
05:54 VanessaE lol
05:54 Kacey and i look like a worm after then
05:54 VanessaE lol
05:55 * kaeza had 4 bottles (1 liter each) of beer, and is now having cider
05:55 kaeza bad combo
05:56 jojoa1997 you guys are brave i had to take pepto after a can of cream soda and a glass of sparkling grape juice
05:57 mauvebic testmap lol http://www.zimg.eu/i/4286623054
05:58 kaeza mauvebic: PIPES CAN TRANSPORT LIQUIDS???
05:58 jojoa1997 the pipes mod works now when was it updated?
05:58 mauvebic http://ompldr.org/vZ3dlYw/pipeworks-exp-123112-1953.zip
05:58 mauvebic keep a copy of your default one
05:59 kaeza mauvebic: thx, gonna try it :)
06:00 mauvebic they only transport water, are there any mods that register their liquids with bucket?
06:02 mauvebic my wife wanted it to work with lava, someone else mentionned oil in pm
06:02 kaeza I was about to suggest oil too
06:03 mauvebic i could always lookup the drawtype via nodedef
06:03 mauvebic tho mixing liquids around the intake might crash it lol
06:04 kaeza good point
06:04 kaeza I guess suggesting data buses for mesecons would have the same problems
06:04 mauvebic meh, ittl go with the first type it finds
06:05 mauvebic if people are stupid enough to stick lava + water or oil around the intake thats their problem lol
06:05 VanessaE so let them try to suck up obsidian :D
06:05 mauvebic assuming oil mod has machiens to extract oil, the intake/outtakes is more for tanks and such
06:06 mauvebic in my case i really do move water from one end of an asteroid to the other lol
06:06 mauvebic i have these huge-ass gardens coming up lol
06:10 mauvebic i was thinking the outlet could be more like this: http://img.directindustry.com/images_di/photo-m2/75-160-mm-16-bar-120-26457-2592793.jpg
06:11 kaeza nice idea
06:12 kaeza ask VanessaE :D
06:12 mauvebic ill ask her in the morning lol
06:13 OldCoder Hi
06:13 OldCoder VanessaE, you look fine
06:13 OldCoder more or less
06:13 kaeza she seems to have pased out on alcohol lol
06:13 jojoa1997 i think that the water should not expand but stay in one line down
06:14 mauvebic i need coffee (romulan ale should be illegal)
06:15 kaeza hmm... romulan ale?
06:15 VanessaE it IS illegal :D
06:15 kaeza oh there you are :P
06:15 VanessaE `HI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
06:16 kaeza lol you remind me of my sister
06:16 mauvebic howdy oldcoder HNY
06:17 mauvebic ooh i have leftover chocolates with alcohol in them :S
06:18 VanessaE CHOCOLATE!!!!!!!!!
06:18 kaeza <Tard> no
06:18 VanessaE GIMME!!!!!!
06:18 kaeza lolol
06:19 kaeza now that you are drunk, can I grief your server? :P
06:19 VanessaE no
06:20 VanessaE nice try A$$H0L3! :-)
06:20 VanessaE lol
06:20 kaeza d0n7 5p34k m3 1n 7h47 l4n6u46e m155
06:20 VanessaE LOL!
06:21 * Kacey reads up...
06:21 kaeza 101
06:21 * VanessaE his practically hyperventilating from laughing so hard
06:21 kaeza 7r010101
06:21 Kacey im jealous now
06:22 kaeza ʃoʃ ʞunɹp ɯ,I 'ʃʃǝɥ ¿ʇɐɥʍ ɟo snoʃɐǝɾ
06:23 VanessaE LOL!
06:24 Kacey :/
06:24 Kacey im not
06:30 * Kacey has found the bag of sugar
06:30 Kacey hehe good enough
06:31 kaeza does anyone know what's the package name for LAMP?
06:31 VanessaE sugar?  bleah. keep it
06:31 Kacey well i am not the age to be drinking soo ya
06:32 kaeza <Kacey> lose *ALL* the teeth!!!
06:32 Kacey naw i have the teeth mod installed i made them out of mese
06:33 VanessaE teeth mod?
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06:34 kaeza Kacey: your character needs a better AI mod, because your current one suxxx
06:34 kaeza trollolol
06:34 VanessaE HAPPY NEW YEARS WEEDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
06:34 Kacey damn 5 pound bag of sugarr lasts around a minute
06:34 Kacey 25 more minutes...
06:34 kaeza 5 pounds = ?kg ?
06:35 kaeza Weedy_lappy: HNY!!
06:35 Kacey uuum idk
06:35 VanessaE a little less than 2kg I think
06:36 kaeza :/
06:36 kaeza you'll really lose all your teeth that way you know?
06:36 VanessaE a little OVER 2kg sorry
06:36 Kacey teeth mod
06:36 VanessaE 2.27blahblahblahblahblahblahblah kg
06:36 VanessaE BLAH!!!
06:36 VanessaE :D
06:36 kaeza lolol
06:37 kaeza also 3.14blahblahblah
06:37 VanessaE lol
06:37 kaeza and blah! you end up with an *almost* full circle :P
06:39 Kacey pi? i like pi!!!!!
06:40 kaeza hmmm pie
06:45 VanessaE night all
06:45 VanessaE time to go to bed while I can still manage some semblence of walking :-)
06:45 VanessaE semblance*
06:47 OldCoder VanessaE, very well
06:47 OldCoder hny
06:47 kaeza good night VanessaE
06:48 kaeza hope you don't get a hangover :P
06:50 Kacey night v
06:50 Kacey 10 more minutes...
06:59 kaeza Kacey: PING
07:01 Exio hey
07:01 Exio hai :D
07:01 Kacey uHAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!one!!!!!
07:08 kaeza feliz año nuevo Exio!!
07:08 Exio :D
07:08 kaeza al menos alguien me entiende ^_^
07:08 Kacey dos mil trece!!!!!!!!
07:09 Exio feliz new year tambien :P
07:09 kaeza :P
07:19 Kacey night all
07:22 kaeza night Kacey
07:22 Exio night Kacey :)
07:30 mauvebic pipes in the colony http://www.zimg.eu/i/1364554930
07:51 OldCoder R
07:52 OldCoder mauvebic, will the old world continue?
07:52 OldCoder I am just getting to know it
07:52 OldCoder That is an impressive image though
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07:54 kaeza OldCoder: what are the 'normal' circumstances under which a user may disconnect? kicked and timing out?
07:54 kaeza besides manual disconnection
07:55 kaeza (from an IRC channel I mean)
07:55 OldCoder kaeza, There are 6 minutes
07:55 OldCoder left in the year for me
07:55 OldCoder I am on a 6-minute break :-)
07:55 kaeza :P
07:55 kaeza nice
07:56 kaeza you should take a longer break every now and then
07:57 jojoa1997 leave him alone only six minutes left
07:58 Exio kaeza: disconnect? channel? wut
08:00 mauvebic yeah my wife did some work on the old world yesterday
08:00 kaeza Exio: I'm trying to add autoconnection in case of fail to my IRC mod
08:00 kaeza but LuaIRC is a PITA
08:00 OldCoder Happy New Year to me
08:01 kaeza \o/
08:01 * OldCoder blows an imaginary party favor
08:01 kaeza HNY OldCoder
08:01 OldCoder ty
08:01 kaeza yw
08:03 Exio kaeza: you should make a 'catch' for every quit of the bot
08:04 Exio and only 'avoid' the reconnect when you specify it
08:04 Exio btw, an irc channel can't disconnect players
08:04 Exio the irc server does that :P
08:04 kaeza meh
08:05 kaeza you get the point
08:05 kaeza LuaIRC is event driven
08:05 Exio :P
08:05 kaeza I need to catch *all* the 'normal' quit errors/messages
08:06 kaeza and reconnect after some time
08:06 OldCoder kaeza, I am now too tired to think much about your question
08:06 OldCoder But I am updating the mod
08:06 OldCoder and it will go in on next rebuild
08:07 kaeza OldCoder: np, I'm sorting this out
08:07 OldCoder hmm
08:07 OldCoder should I update now?
08:07 kaeza ifyou wish so
08:07 OldCoder No, indicate
08:07 OldCoder is the master ready to use?
08:07 kaeza yes
08:07 OldCoder k
08:09 Exio Ping timeout, Excess Flood, Quit:, Max SendQ Exceeded, Remote host closed, Connection reset by peer, and KILLs
08:11 Exio and the ping timeout.. should be 'fully client side' (PING and if the server doesn't "respond" it in <200 seconds, reconnect)
08:24 kaeza Exio: besides manual disconnection by user
08:25 kaeza so Ping timeout, Excess flood, Max SendQ exceeded, Kicked, ...
08:25 Exio everything not starting by 'Quit:', but that is per network
08:28 kaeza <offtopic>lol I didn't know you can host a website with dropbox</offtopic>
08:30 Exio only 'static' pages (well, not dynamic in the server, only with JS in the client) :P
08:36 kaeza Use Qooxdoo-based apps and you have a hell of a hosting service in Dropbox :P
08:36 kaeza (almost)
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08:39 markveidemanis hi
08:39 kaeza hi mark
08:39 markveidemanis Hi kaeza
08:40 kaeza 06:37
08:40 kaeza just ask
08:40 markveidemanis ok
08:41 markveidemanis i am 2 hours ahead of you
08:41 markveidemanis 8:40
08:42 * kaeza is feeding his kittehs, brb
08:43 Exio 5:43 her
08:43 Exio +e
08:51 * kaeza is back
08:51 Exio wb :P
08:52 Exio btw, i'm going to sleep, 'night' >:D
08:56 kaeza thx and night
08:56 kaeza I may do so very soon
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09:05 Kaeza-in-jEdit a
09:06 OldCoder NEWS
09:06 OldCoder worlds shutting down for backup and updates
09:07 OldCoder Jeija, clarify
09:07 OldCoder should I update mesecons or not?
09:07 OldCoder not to experimental
09:07 OldCoder I mean main
09:08 markveidemanis No data received Unable to load the webpage because the server sent no data.
09:08 markveidemanis whoops i broke the internet
09:08 kj markveidemanis: what?
09:08 markveidemanis idk...
09:09 kj F5
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09:18 Jeija yep, OldCoder, you may update mesecons to the latest master
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09:20 kaeza|jEdit done, sorry for flooding
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09:27 kaeza bbl. going to bed
09:27 kaeza cya
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09:47 Calinou hi and happy new year :p
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10:02 kaeza a
10:05 thexyz someone should've muted VE
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10:58 markveidemanis k
10:58 markveidemanis ...
10:59 markveidemanis /msg doesn't work
10:59 OldCoder explain
10:59 markveidemanis everyone: minetest.org:30010 is up live and on a fresh modpack
10:59 markveidemanis !
10:59 markveidemanis i tried /msg #minetest
10:59 OldCoder ?!
10:59 OldCoder no
10:59 OldCoder that does not work :-)
10:59 markveidemanis minetest.org:30010 is up live, interact will be Granted! everyone on for the best building you have ever done!
10:59 markveidemanis ok
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12:00 markveidemanis MY SERVER IS LIVE
12:00 markveidemanis survival mode
12:00 markveidemanis new and exciting mods
12:00 markveidemanis come join
12:01 markveidemanis us at minetest.org30010
12:01 markveidemanis thank you
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12:03 kaeza SIERRA-PAPA-ALPHA-MIKE
12:06 john_minetest YANKEE-OSCAR-UNIFORM ALPHA-ROMEO-ECHO ALPHA SIERRA-PAPA-ALPHA-MIKE-MIKE-ECHO-ROMEO!!!
12:07 * john_minetest <3 glider planes!
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12:12 kaeza is there any callback or another way to reliable determine when the server is shutting down?
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12:16 RealBadAngel minetest.register_on_shutdown(func())
12:16 RealBadAngel ^ Called before server shutdown
12:16 RealBadAngel ^ WARNING: If the server terminates abnormally (i.e. crashes), the registered
12:16 RealBadAngel callbacks WILL LIKELY NOT BE RUN.  Data should be saved at
12:16 RealBadAngel semi-frequent intervals as well as on server shutdown.
12:18 kaeza thanks RealBadAngel
12:18 kaeza also happy new year
12:18 RealBadAngel thx, u2
12:18 Jordach yep 2013
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12:48 Jeija http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We1Xc9BslZA&amp;hd=1 second version of clientside engine particles
12:48 moltenbot Jeija's link: minetest particles take 2 - YouTube
12:49 Jordach Jeija, NICE.
12:49 Jordach so its for all nodes registered?
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12:52 Jeija yep, it just takes parts of their textures
12:53 Jordach jeija, can you also make that part of while your digging it?
12:53 Jordach like punching dirt
12:53 Jeija sure, but I'm working on collision detection now
12:53 Jordach good
12:53 Jordach just use the player detection durr
12:53 Jeija ...and there is another really weird bug: Particles appear to be >behind< clouds ^^
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13:10 john_minetest Jeija: Similar bugs are quite common: Players or water are drawn behind clouds sometimes.
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13:14 Jordach ahhh z-fighting
13:14 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
13:14 PilzAdam Happy New Year!
13:14 Jordach hey PilzAdam
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13:32 Muadtralk VanessaE sobered up yet or should I get a bat?
13:36 Jordach craft a bucket, left click a water source. left click on VanessaE
13:36 Muadtralk that never works
13:36 Muadtralk I will use lava instead
13:36 Jordach lol :)
13:37 * Muadtralk grabs one of his many lava buckets and pours it over VanessaE's head
13:37 Jordach or CONTENT_IGNORE, crash the universe
13:38 Muadtralk last time i placed CONTENT_IGNORE i found out that statement was a lie
13:38 Jordach content_ignore is neither ture or false
13:38 Jordach its not air, but not a node
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13:40 Muadtralk If we ever get suffocation CONTENT_IGNORE should act like a vacuum
13:40 Jordach thats weird. why should content_ignore be there when its neither a node or air
13:40 Jordach i was thinking it be anti-gravity nodespace
13:41 Muadtralk yes but you should need a special suit to traverse it
13:41 Jordach eg, SPACE.
13:41 Jordach suit.
13:41 Muadtralk yep
13:41 Jordach (had to do a space core, for SPPPAAAACCCEEEE!!!)
13:42 Muadtralk hmmmm would such a core be feasible?
13:42 Muadtralk crud......
13:42 Muadtralk okay hmmmm is not on
13:42 Muadtralk so there is no need for me to be careful with my hmmmm's
13:43 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVn1oQL9sWg
13:43 moltenbot Jordach's link: All quotes from Portal 2's "Space" sphere - YouTube
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14:54 markveidemanis HI!
14:55 markveidemanis HeLLO!
14:55 markveidemanis who is a miner (Dwarf)
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15:00 Vibe-X hi all :)
15:03 Vibe-X i created a linux server (after compiling like in the article in wiki) and get while connecting to it this error" minetest failed to emerge player" does someone know, what this could be? :(
15:03 Calinou Vibe-X: if someone crashes, they'll take a while to time out
15:03 Calinou known bug
15:03 Calinou user has to wait a bit to connect again
15:05 Vibe-X no this would be my first connect after starting th eserver
15:05 Vibe-X no time out needed, because i never connected before
15:06 Calinou does your client work? (singleplayer)
15:06 Calinou did you add any mods to the server? which mods?
15:07 Vibe-X singleplayer works on my client very well, no mods
15:07 Vibe-X the server is pure, and client unmodded
15:07 Calinou try restarting your server :P
15:07 Vibe-X done, vibe-x.de port 30000
15:07 Calinou i'll try
15:08 Vibe-X and no chance :/
15:08 Vibe-X 16:08:08: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player
15:08 john_minetest There was something about this on FAQ in the forum i think...
15:08 Calinou yeah can't connect
15:08 Vibe-X on_newplayer 16:08:06: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player
15:08 Calinou Vibe-X: try stopping the server the delete the "worlds" folder on the server, then restart it
15:08 Calinou small chance the world got corrupted :P
15:08 Vibe-X okay
15:08 Calinou it'll generate a new one
15:09 john_minetest yeah.
15:09 john_minetest seems nothing is in the faq. it was an other problem in the faq.
15:09 Vibe-X 16:09:28: ACTION[main]: World at [world] 16:09:28: ACTION[main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on port 30000. creative inventory size: 115
15:09 Vibe-X retry ? :)
15:09 Calinou nope...
15:09 Calinou have to go now
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15:11 PilzAdam Vibe-X, cant connect
15:11 Vibe-X yeah thats the problem ;)
15:12 PilzAdam I know, you wanted some testing
15:12 sapier hello is there a set of default privs within minetest?
15:13 PilzAdam sapier, you mean something like this: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L182 ?
15:13 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: minetest/minetest.conf.example at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
15:14 Vibe-X pilzadam, you have no other idea, why ther is such a error ?
15:15 sapier thx :-) maybe this information would be good in lua_api.txt too
15:15 PilzAdam no, because thats not modding
15:15 PilzAdam Vibe-X, dunno
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15:16 sapier there's a lua api for privs too so it is modding somehow
15:16 sapier in my oppinion at least a notice where to find more information would be fine
15:16 PilzAdam its only config related
15:18 sapier so why add a lua iterface if it's not of interest for lua? ;-)
15:19 sapier how to acces priv description from within game?
15:19 PilzAdam ehm, the only function to change this is minetest.setting_set() and it says that is configurates the minetest.conf file
15:19 markveidemanis what mods are just for administrators?
15:19 PilzAdam and people should know that there is a minetest.conf.example
15:19 markveidemanis like maptools
15:21 sapier mods may have settings too at least mobf does have ... mob blacklist for example is really complex so I created a gui to make it more conveniant for players ... in singleplayer this is quit ok but on servers that gui ought to be shown to special players only
15:21 PilzAdam sapier, btw: the wiki helps a lot: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Privileges
15:22 Jordach heh
15:22 sapier some days ago we had a discussion about "single source of information" ... this is one of the cases showing what benefit this is ;-)
15:22 iqualfragile sapier: you allready have that build in
15:22 Jordach Vibe-X, ill test your server
15:22 sapier yes but privs system isn't working as expected
15:23 sapier privs system in mobf_settings
15:24 sapier @iqualfragile what do you mean with "that"=
15:24 iqualfragile you do check wether a player has a privilege before you add the mobf-menue to his inventory_plus
15:25 Vibe-X 16:23:24: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player 16:23:37: ACTION[ServerThread]: jordach times out. List of players:
15:25 sapier yes but It's not working :)
15:25 iqualfragile it worked for me
15:25 Jordach i'll keep it running
15:25 sapier register of privilege was missing so i doub't anyone could access it
15:25 iqualfragile i could access it after reading the source and adding the privilege to my player
15:25 iqualfragile before that i could not
15:26 iqualfragile so it worked, didnt it?
15:26 Jordach Vibe-X, did you install from apt-get or self compile
15:26 Vibe-X self compiled, but i think he creates no world
15:26 Jordach ehm, run the minetest binary
15:26 Vibe-X ah kk
15:26 Jordach and go to the advanced tab
15:26 sapier yes but why is a register_privilege function in place if you don't need to register a privilege ? strange ... have you been able to change settings from client too?
15:27 Jordach create a world; and run on 30000
15:27 Vibe-X it is linux with no X server
15:27 Jordach O.o
15:27 iqualfragile no, i have not, have allready reported that to you
15:27 Vibe-X no chance to run minetest binary or?
15:27 Vibe-X i want to run linux shell based server
15:27 iqualfragile Vibe-X: no problem
15:27 Vibe-X aaaaaah
15:27 iqualfragile run bin/minetestserver
15:27 Jordach dunno, most people use screen with X
15:28 iqualfragile im not
15:28 Vibe-X AH he create world ion PWD
15:28 Vibe-X -.-
15:28 sapier @iqualfragile ... yes I do remember it not working thats why i asked :)
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15:29 PilzAdam Vibe-X, did you compiled latest git version?
15:29 iqualfragile Vibe-X: have you solved your problem?
15:29 Vibe-X latest stable
15:29 Vibe-X with cmake like in wiki told
15:29 Vibe-X " cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1"
15:29 Jordach from http://github.com/celeron55/minetest/master ?
15:30 iqualfragile Vibe-X: try using those scripts, they might be able to help you
15:30 Vibe-X "wget': wget https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/tarball/master -O master.tar.g"
15:30 iqualfragile https://github.com/iqualfragile/minetest_scripts
15:30 PilzAdam Jordach, he just said latest stable
15:30 moltenbot Masters link: iqualfragile/minetest_scripts ? GitHub
15:30 iqualfragile Vibe-X: no, just clone it
15:30 iqualfragile git clone git://github.com/iqualfragile/minetest_game.git
15:30 iqualfragile no
15:30 Jordach the minetest_scipts are nice apparently
15:30 iqualfragile git clone git://github.com/iqualfragile/minetest.git
15:30 Jordach why yours iqualfragile
15:31 iqualfragile oops
15:31 iqualfragile my mistake :D
15:31 iqualfragile git://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git
15:31 iqualfragile THERE
15:31 Jordach i was gonna hand type that
15:31 Jordach >:(
15:33 * Jordach has a playlist with 4 months, 13 days, 6 hours, 28 mins and 41 seconds
15:33 PilzAdam nyan-cat?
15:33 Vibe-X yeah but downloading the latest stable from git would be the same as the tar file or?
15:33 Jordach yes
15:34 Vibe-X i will give the scripts a chance thank you
15:34 iqualfragile Vibe-X: not realy, you can use git pull to update
15:34 Vibe-X yeah of course
15:34 iqualfragile (if you clone)
15:34 iqualfragile thats verry handy
15:35 Vibe-X yeah versioning has some advantages :D
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15:35 Vibe-X but this isnt needed for a static version you want to use, if you dont want to updated in "real time"
15:35 Vibe-X i will try to compile again
15:36 Jordach PilzAdam, should i create 2048^2 textures?
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15:36 markveidemanis hi
15:36 Obiewan1111 I hate youtube sometimes. -.-
15:36 PilzAdam Jordach, sure
15:36 Obiewan1111 Hey.
15:36 Jordach PilzAdam, watch your framerate drop by 13x
15:37 artur99 how to make a shop?
15:38 Jordach PilzAdam, maybe at some point: (2048*2)^2
15:38 Vibe-X lua/build/liblua.a(loslib.o): In function `os_tmpname': loslib.c:(.text+0x35): warning: the use of `tmpnam' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp'
15:38 Vibe-X is this serious?
15:39 Vibe-X while compiling
15:39 Vibe-X just a warning, right?
15:39 Jordach \o/
15:40 Vibe-X now i tried a minimal game, and still emerge error :( really strange
15:41 Vibe-X or does someone has an ready to go debian package?
15:41 Vibe-X the repo packages are out of date+
15:42 Jordach sudo apt-get update
15:42 Vibe-X yeah, no i meant -> debian packages are just 0.3.1
15:42 Jordach oh
15:42 Vibe-X or do i need another repo?
15:42 Jordach then self-compiling is the best option
15:43 Jordach concurrently
15:43 Vibe-X http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=minetest&amp;searchon=names&amp;suite=all&amp;section=all
15:43 moltenbot Vibe-X's link: Debian -- Package Search Results -- minetest
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15:43 Jordach Vibe-X, want latest, compile it yourself
15:44 Jordach (thats how it runs around here apparently)
15:44 PilzAdam Vibe-X, ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds
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15:53 sapier @iqualfragile sorry but I can't make mobf_settings work on servers from within lua ... servers "saveConfig" function is never called in core ... client uses "updateConfigFile" directly but that code is ifndef SERVER
15:53 iqualfragile sapier: then save the settings to worlddir/moddata/mobf/*
15:55 sapier is there a conveniant way to access settings stored there or do i have to implement file reading writing myself?
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16:01 iqualfragile later :D
16:02 sapier no i won't work for trash ;-) btw server not saving settings seems to be bug as there is a saveConfig() function specialy for server but it's never called
16:07 sapier @iqualfragile if you add "saveConfig();" to server.cpp at end of server destructor (around line 1185) mobf_settings will do fine
16:07 iqualfragile k
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16:11 artur99 how to make a shop?
16:12 Calinou depends on the shop mod you use :P you need one, too
16:12 Calinou if you want an automated shop
16:12 artur99 im on an online server
16:15 artur99 i want to make a normal shop
16:15 Calinou what server?
16:15 Calinou look at the mod releases forum
16:15 Calinou btw, /mods for a list of mods
16:16 artur99 30004
16:18 Vibe-X there is an shop mod
16:18 Vibe-X with shopping machines and coins ;)
16:19 artur99 so, how to make it?
16:22 Vibe-X theres a mod "mint"
16:22 Vibe-X search at the mods site
16:22 Vibe-X unpoack it in mod folder
16:22 Vibe-X but there are some dependencies, maybe you need them installing to
16:22 Vibe-X now i have to go, sorry :/ eat ;)
16:23 artur99 how to make am locked sign
16:23 artur99 ?
16:30 markveidemanis how do i spawn a zombie from animals mod?
16:31 sapier are you on oldcoders server?
16:32 sapier if not "/spawnmob animal_vombie:vombie x,y,z
16:32 VanessaE good morning all
16:32 PilzAdam hey VanessaE
16:32 artur99 where is the zombies?
16:33 artur99 *are
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16:40 iqualfragile sapier: in Server::stop() ?
16:40 sapier no
16:40 iqualfragile VanessaE: good morning
16:40 VanessaE hi :)
16:40 sapier at end of Server::~Server()
16:41 sapier mayve server stop would work either
16:41 iqualfragile so the last line of Server::~Server()
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16:44 sapier1 sorry lost connection but yes last line of Server::~Server() function
16:46 artur99 the copper is in the tefault mod?
16:46 artur99 *default
16:46 iqualfragile no
16:46 VanessaE copper is in moreores.
16:47 iqualfragile its in moreores
16:47 Vibe-X look in the packages ;)
16:47 artur99 aha
16:47 artur99 thanks
16:48 john_minetest moreores should be in default
16:48 VanessaE +1
16:48 iqualfragile not without adoptions
16:48 iqualfragile i think you could remove some of the ores
16:49 artur99 which server has zombies?
16:50 iqualfragile artur99: none of oldcoders has
16:51 iqualfragile he has just enabled the animals
16:51 artur99 which on them?
16:52 iqualfragile well, sheep, fish, gulls, cows chicken
16:52 artur99 no... Which server has animals?
16:54 iqualfragile all of them i guess, but im not shure about that
16:54 iqualfragile OldCoder: artur99 has a question
16:54 OldCoder Hi
16:54 OldCoder 30004
16:54 OldCoder The others will shortly
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16:54 OldCoder 30004 was a test
16:54 OldCoder They seem to work except for one known problem and one unconfirmed
16:54 artur99 im playing there, but i never found animals
16:55 OldCoder artur99, the animals were just added
16:55 OldCoder Talk to Baby Face
16:55 artur99 when?
16:57 OldCoder when she shows up
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17:09 Doc22 im so tired
17:10 Doc22 probably going through a growth spurt
17:10 Doc22 been tired for the past week or two
17:11 john_minetest i have been tired for the past half yeah. lol.
17:11 Doc22 lol
17:12 Doc22 im 14 so proper age for growth spurt
17:12 john_minetest I'm 1,99 meters.
17:12 Doc22 wow
17:12 Doc22 im 5'7" or so
17:12 Doc22 which is a bit less
17:12 Doc22 if you dont know feet
17:13 Doc22 i think 2 metres is about 6 feet 5 inches
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17:14 john_minetest I don't want to look for an online calculator ^^
17:14 Morrolan Just google it.
17:17 iqualfragile im nor tired, i woke up at 15:30
17:17 iqualfragile (stayed up untill 6:30)
17:22 john_minetest Morrolan: google is EVIL >:D
17:22 iqualfragile use wolframalpha
17:23 john_minetest that's a good solution
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17:45 Kacey hello
17:45 Muadtralk you broke the silence!
17:45 Kacey lol
17:45 VanessaE hi kacey
17:45 Kacey hi v
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17:47 Kacey hey if anyone wants to play with Kaceybot go to ##kacey
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17:49 Mika_R hi all
17:49 Kacey hello
17:49 Mika_R VanessaE when did you last time visit redcrabs 30401 server?
17:50 VanessaE Mika_R: a couple weeks ago I guess
17:50 VanessaE I don't go there too much anymore
17:50 Mika_R anyone here encountered issues with gravel?
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17:50 Mika_R vanessaE, the gravel behaves odd
17:50 VanessaE define "odd"?
17:51 Mika_R when mined the lowest, leaving air beneat it the rest drops, but also some / somehow spawns around the map above sealevel, mainly on roads
17:52 VanessaE that may be related to the >4GB SQLite bug
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17:52 VanessaE redcrab's map is almost 6GB now, any MT map more than 4GB tends to exhibit weird bugs.
17:53 VanessaE (except when the database backend being used is LevelDB, apparently)
17:53 Mika_R ok, mined a bit a few minutes back on redcrabs and then when i came up another player noticed gravel where he was
17:53 VanessaE OH wait
17:53 VanessaE that's the attachments bug
17:53 VanessaE any entity will do that, and falling gravel is an entity
17:54 Mika_R there is quite a bit around redcrabs 30401 with gravel
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17:54 Muadtralk so has any progress been made in repairing that bug?
17:56 VanessaE not sure really
17:56 Exio VanessaE: 20 FPS with your 512x texture pack
17:56 Exio 30 without 128x
17:56 VanessaE exio: not bad; what view range?
17:56 Mika_R i dont know, i have been struggling with my pc last 3 weeks
17:56 Exio with *
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17:57 Exio VanessaE: default (server)
17:58 VanessaE exio: cool
17:58 Exio not shaders or stuff.. netbook :P
17:58 Kacey need to boost my fps
17:58 Exio the engine is very fast
17:59 Exio Kacey: try minecraft, then minetest will look too damn faster
17:59 Kacey no MC looks faster right now
17:59 Kacey 0 fps
18:00 Exio enabled 'full viewing range (r) and 10~14 FPS
18:00 Vibe-X hi volks, just 1 more question
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18:00 Vibe-X is it correct, that only the server needs a mod
18:00 Vibe-X and the client download all needed filesß o.O
18:00 Mika_R i feel there is quite a difference between minetest in windows and ubuntu
18:01 Kacey disabled fog and turned viewing range all the way down and got 1 fps
18:01 VanessaE Kacey: bad video driver I guess
18:01 Vibe-X i installed "mesecons" and after connecting i got all textues and mod informations o.O
18:01 VanessaE Vibe-X: that is correct behavior
18:01 Kacey Vibe-X: you don't need the same mods as the server
18:02 Vibe-X i just need the mod on server side, right?
18:02 VanessaE yes
18:02 Vibe-X and clients dont need it
18:02 Kacey correct
18:02 Vibe-X wow *.* now im loving it <3
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18:02 Mika_R minetest disabled full view around 55-60, with enabled full view 15-25
18:02 Vibe-X and what about clients, who installed own mods, they wont used, riht?
18:02 Vibe-X because of hacking e.g.
18:02 VanessaE no
18:02 Kacey full view kills me
18:02 VanessaE server won't run their code.
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18:02 Exio even in the celeron in my other house without acceleration and windows xp (512mb ram) minetest works better Kacey
18:03 Kacey not here
18:03 Vibe-X no i mean, user installed mods which change the game, wont executed on the client side
18:03 Vibe-X like other blocks or something
18:03 Exio the client doesn't run anything
18:03 Vibe-X if you install a redstone block for example, just on your client
18:03 VanessaE Vibe-X: well in theory a hacked client could perhaps run client-side mods, but they won't be able to change the map in any way that the user can't with tools etc.
18:04 Vibe-X ah okay
18:04 Vibe-X alright, thank you
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18:05 Vibe-X just the last question, can i enforace texture packs by this way?
18:06 VanessaE you can install a client-side texture pack to override what the server sends you, yes
18:06 * VanessaE does that
18:06 VanessaE many of us do in fact
18:06 * PilzAdam not
18:07 Vibe-X so i am not able to force clients to use server mod packs, beacuse they can overwrite it
18:07 Vibe-X kk
18:07 VanessaE ah PilzAdam, the consummate antagonist
18:07 VanessaE :)
18:07 VanessaE Vibe-X: right.
18:07 VanessaE Vibe-X: if there's no texture pack in use on the client, they'll see the server's texture pack.  Otherwise, they see their own.
18:08 Kacey speaking of texture pack, i need one that boosts fps
18:08 VanessaE Kacey: try http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=850
18:09 VanessaE or http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3670
18:09 Kacey naw ill find my own
18:09 VanessaE (4x4 and 8x8, respectively)
18:09 Kacey but Vibe-X pull up a chair and stay a while there is plenty of room here for you
18:09 Exio i don't think that will really matter
18:09 Vibe-X VanessaE: will the server send first and the client check, if texture will used? or will the client check first and download then? :)
18:10 VanessaE Vibe-X: the server sends first.
18:10 VanessaE but then the client caches the data for later.
18:10 VanessaE (it just doesn't use some of it then)
18:11 Vibe-X ah okay
18:11 Vibe-X Kacey: ? o.O
18:12 VanessaE Kacey: there's also this really old and gawdy one:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1407
18:12 VanessaE (1x1)
18:12 Kacey stay a while Vibe-X
18:12 Vibe-X in this channel, or what?
18:13 Kacey i grabbed Mennche's 4x4
18:13 Vibe-X sorry, but i dont know, what you want to tell me :/
18:13 Kacey just hang around
18:13 Vibe-X i will :D
18:13 VanessaE Vibe-X: whe is saying that we'd like you to visit here more often - we like having new folks around.
18:13 VanessaE -w
18:14 Vibe-X ah alright, of course i will visit you some times more
18:14 Vibe-X i'm really interested in minetest, such much potential
18:15 Vibe-X with some tests, i will do a public server =) the concept of lua scripts are perfect
18:15 Vibe-X is there any posibility to init a new script, without restarting the server?
18:15 * Kacey has yet to figure out lua modding
18:15 thexyz Vibe-X: no
18:15 Vibe-X ah okay thx
18:16 Muadtralk I would imagine if such a feature did exist it would be rather volitile
18:16 Jordach Vibe-X, i suggest you use a real irc client, like hexchat, xchat, irssi, quassel et al
18:16 Vibe-X i uses xchat ;)
18:16 Jordach good
18:16 Exio wait what
18:16 Vibe-X but when i joined here, i just thought about fast question :D
18:17 Vibe-X not about hours of chatting
18:17 Vibe-X i will send a bouncer to this channel later ;)
18:17 Exio 30~40 FPS
18:17 Jordach your english is rather decent
18:17 Vibe-X mine? o.O Sorry about this
18:18 Jordach Vibe-X, i can easily understand you without trouble
18:18 Vibe-X happy to hear :)
18:18 Jordach (people like kikarz, artur, etc) i cant easily get
18:18 Vibe-X first : thank you for your help ! i will visit a friend to play borderlands now ;)
18:18 PilzAdam Jordach, when will there be the next episode of you + Mito lets play?
18:18 Vibe-X have a nice evening
18:18 Jordach PilzAdam, when he beeps my on skype
18:18 Jordach me*
18:19 Kacey im putting together a group to create a string of let's plays
18:19 Jordach why? i might be able to; my triton headset has hq recording
18:20 Jordach PilzAdam, i could review the default mod and creative thursday
18:20 Jordach (default mod SETS.)
18:21 Jordach i still think woolcraft should be in defaul
18:21 Jordach default game until wool can be crafted
18:21 john_minetest something like a basic farming mod with cotton for wool would be good for default game.
18:21 Kacey afk
18:21 VanessaE Jordach: sdzen's+jojoa1997's dye and wool crafting mods ftw
18:22 Jordach bleh
18:22 VanessaE sorry to put it bluntly, but your recipes are horrible by comparison :-)
18:22 Jordach VanessaE, you liked woolcraft at one point
18:22 Jordach so shush.
18:22 Muadtralk VanessaE worked with you on cotton
18:22 VanessaE Jordach: I still do, but those ^^^ are better :-)
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18:22 Muadtralk double shush
18:22 Muadtralk :P
18:24 VanessaE not that it matters, pilzadam's just gonna drag his feet :-)
18:24 Jordach xyz over there might be able to help
18:24 Muadtralk thexyz could you possibly push it to the master?
18:24 Muadtralk wow Jordach beats me yet again
18:25 thexyz push what?
18:25 Muadtralk fetching links
18:26 thexyz woolcraft?
18:26 Muadtralk https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/92
18:26 moltenbot Muadtralk's link: Crafting Recipes For Dyes by sdzen ? Pull Request #92 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub
18:26 thexyz >sand + coal= White wool | lol, wtf
18:26 Muadtralk https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/90
18:26 moltenbot Muadtralk's link: Crafting Recipe for Wool and Addition of Plain Wool by sdzen ? Pull Request #90 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub
18:26 VanessaE thexyz: wrong mod.
18:27 Jordach VanessaE, fallback > existing solutions
18:27 Jordach (uses mobf, farming, etc)
18:27 thexyz crafting wool from papyrus and sticks? seems legit
18:27 VanessaE thexyz: better than sand+coal :D
18:27 Muadtralk more legit then coal and sand
18:28 Muadtralk damn it I keep being beat!
18:28 Jordach trololololol
18:28 Muadtralk 3 seconds this time!
18:28 VanessaE lol
18:28 PilzAdam thexyz, I dont like this wool craftings because its just adding something (maybe stupid) because we have nothing else
18:28 PilzAdam this cant end good
18:28 NakedFury ok alternative
18:28 Jordach PilzAdam, deal breaker: add farming
18:28 NakedFury scrap wool. add cotton blocks and cotton crafting
18:28 thexyz we should minetest_game with celeron55, like, should it have wool? should this game be (slightly)realistic? what to add, etc, etc..
18:29 thexyz yeah, cotton blocks are better
18:29 PilzAdam Jordach, I have a nice farming mod ready for upstream; I just need textures
18:29 Jordach go on.
18:29 NakedFury cotton can have cotton plants
18:29 NakedFury we cant do wool plants
18:29 VanessaE thexyz: we have no real wool source and probably won't for months.  So we need a somewhat believable solution.
18:29 NakedFury cotton!
18:29 thexyz good solution is cotton
18:29 Jordach PilzAdam, send the mod to me in -mods
18:29 Kacey back
18:29 Mika_R papyrus + sticks aint that good
18:29 NakedFury cotton just needs a  name change, adding the plant and a rework of the recipe for colors
18:29 thexyz BTW, I don't play minetest_game at all, better ask PilzAdam to merge something into it
18:29 mauvebic no cotton plants?
18:29 thexyz NakedFury: why does it need name change?
18:30 Muadtralk mobf is actually pretty stable now
18:30 NakedFury well wool block when we are using cotton?
18:30 thexyz NakedFury: cotton block
18:30 Muadtralk some work and I think its worthy of being in the default
18:30 Muadtralk you know once it gets low res textures
18:31 NakedFury forgot to say earlier, happy new year
18:31 Mika_R there is some mod of planting cotton
18:31 thexyz what's wrong with cotton block? it's definetly better than wool from papyrus and sticks
18:31 VanessaE what about the dye crafting recipes?   forget wool for now
18:31 Mika_R papyrus is rare on servers that has been up for a longer time
18:32 Muadtralk so were trees
18:32 Muadtralk before saplings were added
18:32 thexyz VanessaE: your recipes for unified dyes are OK, as for me
18:32 thexyz maybe except white dye
18:32 mauvebic you should use a chemist mod for making dyes
18:32 VanessaE thexyz: eh?  not unified dyes, forget about that mod.  I mean Muadtralk's dye crafting
18:32 thexyz hm..
18:32 VanessaE (UD will be rewritten to work with his, if it gets pushed to minetest_game)
18:33 thexyz red dye from apple?
18:33 thexyz blue dye from cactus?
18:33 mauvebic we used to have a mod for making, potions i think -> make dyes
18:33 Mika_R OldCoder, how is it going with europe server?
18:33 Muadtralk would you rather have water for blue?
18:33 VanessaE and yellow from a mese crystal fragment - closest materials we could find in the default game.
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18:33 thexyz doesn't it have flowers?
18:33 NakedFury use flowers for dye making
18:33 PilzAdam thexyz, there is an alternative for creating dyes: this https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/576f055e26b1fdaf11c366087829971e7511b2bb but with flowers
18:33 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Add junglegrass to mapgen ?  576f055 ? PilzAdam/minetest_game ? GitHub
18:34 VanessaE who said anything about flowers?
18:34 PilzAdam VanessaE, 3 people here ;-)
18:34 thexyz then we should firstly add flowers to default game
18:34 VanessaE before that you nut
18:34 Mika_R flowers would be logical
18:34 Mika_R and somewhat cheap cause they respawn
18:34 mauvebic only logical if all maps have grass tho
18:34 VanessaE flowers is logical but if the flowers are not compatible with my/ironzorg's mod they should not be used.
18:35 Muadtralk why wouldn't they be compatible?
18:35 VanessaE Mika_R: PilzAdam wants to put them into the mapgen = they'll never show up on old maps without my mod.
18:35 VanessaE Muadtralk: node names.
18:35 mauvebic which mapgen? lua or cpp
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18:35 Muadtralk ahem i mean why wouldnt someone think to make them compatible
18:35 Muadtralk hopefully cpp
18:35 Muadtralk :P
18:35 mauvebic for flowers?
18:35 PilzAdam mauvebic, basically the Lua mapgen but it uses existing code so it wouldnt slow down very much
18:36 mauvebic add whatever you want to the mapgen just dont forget to add flags :p
18:36 VanessaE Muadtralk:  "not invented here" of course.
18:36 thexyz whatever, I was working on new stupidMakeTilesV2 for onomatopoeia and you interrupted me so roughly, back to code now..
18:36 VanessaE Muadtralk: everyone seems to like to re-implement stuff in slightly incompatible ways
18:36 Muadtralk hmmmmm
18:36 Muadtralk true
18:37 Muadtralk your a testament to that with your bloody default:mese
18:37 mauvebic thats not new lol
18:37 VanessaE :P
18:37 mauvebic the same thing was said of mobs a few fays ago lol
18:37 mauvebic *days
18:37 VanessaE heh
18:38 markveidemanis HI!
18:38 markveidemanis my server actually has people on
18:38 markveidemanis all come join
18:38 markveidemanis it has awesome creations
18:38 Jordach ffs
18:38 Jordach shut up about it.
18:38 markveidemanis minetest.org30010 join the fun!
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18:39 thexyz oh, it has people on it! such a popular server
18:39 mauvebic though lately when i reimplement stuff i send it back to the OP cuz i just dont feel like maintaining copies seperately lol
18:39 rubenwardy !s
18:39 Jordach its like the proposed end of the world, no one gave a shit
18:40 mauvebic which reminds me i have to send zeg my copy of ufos lol
18:40 * Kacey hands everyone a cookie
18:40 mauvebic ugh, not on :(
18:41 Jordach mauvebic, drop it on his topic
18:41 mauvebic eventually were gonna need mod categories on the boards lol
18:44 VanessaE so getting back on topic, where do we stand with these dyes and wool?
18:45 VanessaE (so I know what to rewrite later on my mods that use the stuff)
18:45 NakedFury wool trnasformed into cotton until we have sheep
18:45 NakedFury transformed
18:45 mauvebic cylon + viper ufos: http://ompldr.org/vZ3dtZg/ufos-010113-worcestershire_edit.zip
18:45 VanessaE ok fine
18:45 Mika_R vanessaE, should be plantable cotton, then harvest, 2x2 cotton in grid to make white wool. colors from some cheap stuff
18:46 Mika_R if flowers doesn't work
18:46 VanessaE PilzAdam, thexyz:  put Jordach's Cotton mod into minetest_game, alias all wool nodes to the appropriately-colored cotton nodes.
18:46 VanessaE put Muadtralk's dyes mod in, altered to work with cotton.
18:46 Jordach VanessaE, requires UDye
18:46 VanessaE put flowers in, so we have a source of the raw materials.
18:46 VanessaE Jordach: you used dye groups, right?
18:47 Jordach its your framework
18:47 VanessaE group:basecolor,red and so forth?
18:47 thexyz care to alias/alter everything needed?
18:47 VanessaE hm.  nope, you hard-coded the dyes names.
18:48 VanessaE forget jordach's cotton.
18:49 VanessaE thexyz: trivial to do, but pointless now.
18:50 VanessaE thexyz:  point him to jojoa1997's post.
18:51 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4248
18:51 thexyz point him yourself
18:52 VanessaE now watch the fun.
18:52 VanessaE "horrible" or "random".
18:54 mauvebic updates posted to ufos and pipeworks :-)
18:56 VanessaE mauvebic: maybe I should change the inlet grate to inlet PUMP
18:56 VanessaE like how a car puts the fuel pump into the fuel tank these days
18:56 mauvebic i thought of combining the two
18:57 thexyz VanessaE: why don't you say it to his face?
18:57 mauvebic inlet + pump could be the same, outlet can look more like a big industrial tap?
18:57 VanessaE thexyz: because he can read this channel as well, and besides it wouldn't do any good.
18:59 VanessaE mauvebic: I was thinking the outlet could be made to look like a big spigot or so.
18:59 mauvebic a big one and a small one yeah
18:59 VanessaE hm...
19:00 mauvebic because i want to add water stream (not 1x1x1 in size)
19:00 VanessaE I guess the pump would need to be redesigned to take over the job of the intake grate, alias the two grates to just pipeworks:grating so it's purely decorative, and create a new node for the spigot
19:00 mauvebic well the inlet can look like a combined inlet + pump
19:01 VanessaE yes
19:01 NakedFury +1 for water stream
19:01 mauvebic keep the grate-y texture on the bottom,
19:01 VanessaE exactly my thinking
19:01 VanessaE maybe make the bottom 1/4 of the pump node look like a grate, the rest being the pump body
19:01 VanessaE still only allow connection from the top?
19:02 mauvebic that would certainly make my job easier for flow - the flow pressure would start a 100 from the inlet, and drop by 1 for every pipe segment traversed
19:02 mauvebic top connection yeah
19:02 mauvebic inlet checks for water under & around it
19:03 NakedFury so would water pressure drop twice as much when going up?
19:03 VanessaE now what about a power connection to the pump?  do we allow for a mesecons-compatible junction somewhere on it?
19:03 mauvebic ill start with water pressure and thinking about gravity effects later :P
19:03 VanessaE (nevermind how to code that, I just mean its appearance)
19:04 mauvebic where would the mesecon connection go ?
19:04 mauvebic i would suggest mesecons not directly affect devices, just flow
19:04 VanessaE one of the four sides, at the top I guess
19:04 VanessaE well
19:04 VanessaE let's forget about mesecons for the time being
19:05 mauvebic jeija's still rewriting the API too i think?
19:05 VanessaE yeah
19:05 FreeFull If you stand right on the edge of a block
19:05 FreeFull You can't jump
19:05 VanessaE FreeFull: we know.
19:05 mauvebic ah well lets let him finish before writing code that will need to be rewritten
19:05 FreeFull But you can if you sneak :O
19:06 VanessaE lemme see what I can throw together for pipeworks.
19:06 mauvebic i would recommend a simple mesecons valve
19:06 mauvebic to cut or reduce flow
19:06 VanessaE mauvebic: so you agree with my idea letting the pump replace the intake grate with the combined texture, and relegating the two grates to decorative status only?
19:07 VanessaE mesecons valve is a good idea,
19:07 VanessaE and easier to texture for mesecons.
19:07 mauvebic the other way round but yeah same result :-)
19:07 mauvebic keep the nodenames 'intake' and 'outlet" easier to remember for me lol change the description and textures to what you want :-)
19:08 PilzAdam bbl
19:08 VanessaE hm, no...
19:08 VanessaE I think they need to be redone
19:09 VanessaE otherwise they'll make no sense later :-/
19:09 mauvebic well the flow logic stays the same either way
19:09 VanessaE yeah
19:09 mauvebic so it dont matter to me lol just let me know which ones are supposed to take water and those that are sposed to pour it
19:10 mauvebic oh we do need one thing:
19:10 VanessaE hm?
19:10 mauvebic a full node with a pass-through pipe connection
19:10 OldCoder Hi
19:10 Jordach hey OldCoder
19:10 OldCoder Jordach, Hi
19:11 OldCoder Mika_R, I need to reach Anunakki
19:11 OldCoder He is the host
19:11 mauvebic cuz technically this shoul be airtight: http://www.zimg.eu/i/4034028490
19:11 VanessaE agreed
19:11 OldCoder Mika_R, I simply need to reboot the server. But Phantom Circuit, who has the hardware, says that only Anunakki knows which VPS we have.
19:11 VanessaE but what shall it look like?  just glass?  a steel plate?
19:12 OldCoder Mika_R, If I cannot reach Anunakki then I will revert to an older copy.
19:12 mauvebic it could be like a 6-way connection node
19:12 OldCoder Mika_R, therefore the world will not be lost
19:12 mauvebic id say metallic
19:12 * OldCoder is tired BTW
19:12 mauvebic keep the same texture theme as the rest
19:12 VanessaE ok.
19:12 * mauvebic hands oldcoder coffee
19:12 * OldCoder does not drink real coffee but gratefully accepts virtual variety
19:12 VanessaE I'll make it a steel pane 2/16 thick intersecting a horizontal pipe.
19:12 OldCoder If anybody sees Anunakki tell him to reboot his VPS
19:13 mauvebic works :-)
19:13 VanessaE I guess a vertical one is needed also?
19:13 mauvebic either a horiz + vertical or a multi-connection node
19:13 mauvebic (like those funky 80's powerbars that started fires lol)
19:14 VanessaE heh
19:14 VanessaE I'll see what I can come up with
19:14 mauvebic coolness :-) when flow works we can (later on) think about adding bigger/double pipes for greater flow
19:15 VanessaE *nod*
19:15 VanessaE also,
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19:15 markveidemanis k
19:15 VanessaE do we *really* need two pumps and two valves because of apparent facedir?
19:16 markveidemanis NO!
19:16 VanessaE or shall I delete the extras and make them work with param2
19:16 VanessaE ?
19:16 markveidemanis YES!
19:16 markveidemanis BYE!
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19:16 mauvebic ive never made two nodes where 1 + facedir will do
19:16 VanessaE ok.
19:16 mauvebic it also means seperate rules for seperate nodes
19:16 mauvebic whereas with facedir i can 'rotate' the rules
19:16 Obiewan1111 Rendering the first Minetest Quick Build Challenge for the second time.
19:17 Kacey cool^
19:17 Obiewan1111 Damn youtube took it down because it was "too long".
19:18 Kacey how long was it?
19:18 Obiewan1111 26 mins.
19:18 Kacey wow roosterteeth makes 40 minute videos
19:19 Obiewan1111 It was the first video of the channel.
19:19 Kacey aah
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19:23 Kacey is sapier1 on?
19:24 Kacey i guess not
19:25 sapier1 yes I am
19:25 Kacey ooh ok
19:25 Kacey i have a bug with mobf
19:26 sapier1 which one ?
19:26 Obiewan1111 Anyone interested in appearing in the second minetest quick build challenge?
19:26 Kacey when i shear a sheep i get the wool, but it says that sheep_naked is not defined
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19:27 sapier1 which version of mobf?
19:27 Kacey latest
19:31 sapier1 thx I'll fix it
19:31 Kacey k
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19:42 jojoa1997 hi
19:42 Kacey hello
19:43 jojoa1997 who uses chrome
19:43 mauvebic me
19:43 Kacey i did but then i went to chromium
19:43 jojoa1997 google chrome
19:44 jojoa1997 what is chromium
19:44 mauvebic same thing
19:44 Kacey !up
19:44 moltenbot Minetest server !up:!up DOWN
19:44 jojoa1997 ah
19:44 Kacey !up vanessae.mine.bz 30000
19:44 moltenbot Minetest server vanessae.mine.bz:30000 UP
19:44 mauvebic only diff between chrome and chromium is political lol
19:44 Kacey k it is up
19:45 jojoa1997 just wondering cause chrome sopports irrchle or whatever the minetest code is and we could have an online version of it on chrome
19:45 NakedFury difference chrome is from google and chromium not
19:45 Kacey chromium is open source chrome from google
19:47 Obiewan1111 jojoa, I mucked up the quick build.
19:49 Obiewan1111 Gonna have to re-do it, because it's 20 mins long. :/
19:50 jojoa1997 why 20 minutes
19:50 FreeFull Is rhubarb useless without the food mod?
19:50 Obiewan1111 I didn't put a timer on.
19:50 Obiewan1111 Sorry.
19:51 Obiewan1111 And because I was interupted for like 4 secs.
19:52 jojoa1997 i really dont want to do it again i liked my place why not just show the people the finished places
19:52 jojoa1997 OldCoder, you there?
19:52 Obiewan1111 I destroyed them.
19:53 jojoa1997 really
19:53 Obiewan1111 Yes.
19:53 OldCoder jojoa1997, yes
19:53 OldCoder jojoa1997, the npc mod crashes
19:53 OldCoder did markv speak with you?
19:53 jojoa1997 maybe i did not update it
19:53 jojoa1997 yes
19:53 Obiewan1111 It doesn't have to be this week jojoa..
19:53 jojoa1997 get rid of npc
19:53 jojoa1997 obie ok
19:54 OldCoder jojoa1997, we did temporarily
19:54 OldCoder jojoa1997, the world is up
19:54 OldCoder you have full privs
19:54 OldCoder go design and build
19:56 Kacey testing...
19:56 Kacey can you see me?
19:57 Obiewan1111 Yes.
19:57 Kacey k
20:03 Obiewan1111 See ya guys.
20:06 Kacey aaagh silence
20:07 jojoa1997 you dont have silence you have me
20:07 Jordach hmm
20:07 Jordach i have a question
20:07 * jojoa1997 is playing all the instruments seen in The Grinch Who Stole Christmas
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20:08 jojoa1997 what question
20:08 * Kacey is sitting in a dark room
20:08 Jordach has ANYONE tried to place a player skin in textures/all and see if it works?
20:08 Kacey yea.... nope never
20:09 jojoa1997 you mean in default
20:10 Kacey damn internet
20:12 * Jordach is testing this thoery
20:12 Jordach also, can someone go onto VanessaE's server
20:12 * Kacey is going to kill his ISP pretty soon
20:12 Jordach her*
20:12 Kacey im going to get off for a while so bbl
20:14 jojoa1997 joining Jordach
20:15 Jordach preferably a default player without a added skib
20:15 Jordach skin
20:17 Jordach VanessaE, could you just logon to your server
20:17 Kacey joined #minetest
20:18 Kacey back lol
20:19 NakedFury almost a whole minute passed Kacey
20:19 Kacey lol i figured out the problem
20:19 Kacey it was my computer
20:23 Jordach can someone log onto VanessaE's server with a random name?> like asidhfpuasnfsdf
20:24 Kacey y?
20:24 Jordach testing if skins work from texture pack directory
20:25 Kacey ooh ok
20:25 Kacey i cant though lol
20:27 VanessaE mauvebic: is there any functional reason why a bare pipe can't just pour water right out without the need for a spigot?
20:27 mauvebic would prolly crash your server everytime a user cuts a section of pipe (intentional or not)
20:27 mauvebic big messes lol
20:28 VanessaE heh, good point
20:28 mauvebic most smart pipes today (oil ones anyways) have an automatic shutoff
20:28 Jordach VanessaE, can i ask you something
20:28 VanessaE hm?
20:28 Jordach logon to your serv with a random name
20:29 Jordach i wanna see if textures load from textures/all for skins
20:29 VanessaE not right now, kinda busy
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20:32 Jordach damn VanessaE, i was hoping to test said thing
20:32 VanessaE ok, I'm there.
20:33 Jordach IT WORKS
20:33 VanessaE cool
20:33 Jordach (i made a megaman skin)
20:34 Jordach thanks VanessaE
20:35 VanessaE no prob.
20:35 Jordach VanessaE, worked out my new years resolution: http://i.imgur.com/rfHSS.jpg
20:35 VanessaE hah!
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20:37 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/ZPyOg.png <- VanessaE
20:37 * Jordach sees skin needs fixing
20:37 Jordach :O
20:38 Jordach thats strange.
20:38 Jordach really strange
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20:39 Jordach ehm, Taoki[laptop]
20:39 sapier1 hello is anyone interested in showing formspecs to player from lua?
20:40 mauvebic pipeworks + aeroponics : http://www.zimg.eu/i/2547623931
20:40 Jordach Taoki[laptop], apparently the legs of a minecraft skin are broken
20:40 Taoki[laptop] broken how?
20:40 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/ZPyOg.png
20:41 Taoki[laptop] What's wrong?
20:42 Jordach it should look like this: http://i.imgur.com/MADKa.jpg
20:43 Jordach (and the legs are mirrored)
20:43 Taoki[laptop] ah, I can see where there's a mirroring error
20:43 Taoki[laptop] Is it the same on the back side of legs?
20:43 Jordach yes
20:43 Taoki[laptop] Need to fix it when I get home
20:43 Taoki[laptop] ok
20:43 Jordach (well. couldnt see)
20:44 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGlVtNXLMmA&amp;NR=1 haha im dying from this
20:45 Obiewan1111 Lol.
20:45 Kacey omg its hilarious
20:46 VanessaE mauvebic: I'm about to push an update to the gitub repo in a few mins.  I think I'm done.
20:46 Obiewan1111 Never heard the word "F*ck" more in a video
20:46 mauvebic same link as on the forums?
20:46 mauvebic i get lost on github
20:46 mauvebic lol
20:47 Kacey lol
20:47 VanessaE yeah, it'll be the same link
20:47 Obiewan1111 Lol. The medal bit. Ehmagad.
20:49 mauvebic coolness :-)_
20:49 mauvebic i wish id learned to program VCR's back when, i might have an easier time on git lol
20:50 Jordach Taoki[laptop], http://imgur.com/a/olvW8
20:50 moltenbot Jordach's link:             Photo Album - Imgur
20:51 jojoa1997 that video is so funny
20:51 Taoki[laptop] ok, will look home
20:51 Obiewan1111 @Kacey, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx7a6MwJ3Us
20:51 moltenbot Obiewan1111's link: Let's Play - Farm Simulator 2013 - YouTube
20:52 Obiewan1111 That's even funnier.
20:52 Jordach is that yogscastlalna by chance?
20:52 Jordach you know, duncan
20:53 Jordach nope. achievement hunter.
20:53 * Jordach prefers Rage Quit and Fails of the Weak
20:54 Obiewan1111 One guy just keeps on saying can I put my d**k in this thing?
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20:57 Mika_R vanessaE, why is the viewing range almost as full viewing range (R-key) when it should be disabled? only difference is light, just dropped to 8fps
20:57 Obiewan1111 Press Ctrl and -
20:58 Obiewan1111 To lower it.
20:58 VanessaE dunno, I think the game default got turned way up recently.
20:58 Kacey haha farm simualtor lol
20:58 Obiewan1111 And Shift and + to increase it.
20:58 Mika_R Kacey, ?
20:59 Kacey [13:51] <Obiewan1111> @Kacey, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx7a6MwJ3Us
20:59 Kacey [
20:59 moltenbot Kacey's link: Let's Play - Farm Simulator 2013 - YouTube
20:59 Kacey lol it gets funnier
21:00 * Jordach wonders on how to beat moltenbot's link notifier
21:00 Mika_R kacey, dont know what you think but it's a good game, but needs mods
21:01 Kacey i need to buy it
21:01 Jordach Kacey, did not read manual; dick stuck in xbox tray
21:01 Kacey lol
21:04 mauvebic http://www.zimg.eu/i/2131155790
21:06 VanessaE mauvebic: git updated.
21:06 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks
21:06 mauvebic DL\ed
21:06 mauvebic *dl'ed
21:07 VanessaE How's that look?
21:07 VanessaE (I did not use your patches yet, you'll want to re-apply your code)
21:08 mauvebic so this version declares one peice of each type and uses facedir?
21:09 VanessaE the pipes are unchanged - I reworked the devices only to use facedir (and tweaked the autoplace algorithm to compensate)
21:09 Obiewan1111 Can you link it with the toilet mod?
21:09 mauvebic okie dokie :-)
21:09 Obiewan1111 So you can connect pipes to a toilet..
21:09 Obiewan1111 mod that includes toilets*
21:10 VanessaE Obiewan1111: someone has to modify the toilet (3dforniture mod) so it has a proper fitting to connect to a pipe :-)
21:10 VanessaE mauvebic: I haven't added the airtight panel/pipe thingy yet
21:11 mauvebic no biggie, i can always use a grate with a connector face on all sides :-)
21:11 mauvebic and draw little caps on them
21:11 mauvebic (cuz if theres nothing connected they should be capped lol)
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21:13 VanessaE *nod*
21:13 VanessaE I'll add it, I just didn't get to it yet
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21:29 VanessaE mauvebic: added it. please re-pull
21:29 VanessaE just horizontal for now, didn't think a vertical version was really needed yet.
21:30 VanessaE this one has different rules than the other devices - I oriented the model along the Z axis this time, to make it easier to place.
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21:37 vibe-x hi all :)
21:37 markveidemanis joined #minetest
21:37 Kacey hello
21:37 Kacey ooh hai markv
21:38 markveidemanis hi
21:38 Vibe-X im back again in town :P
21:38 * VanessaE pokes at mauvebic for signs of life
21:39 mauvebic pulled :-)
21:39 * Kacey screams behind VanessaE really loud
21:39 mauvebic sry lots of phone calls today from family in a few diff countries lol
21:39 * VanessaE clobbers Kacey
21:39 * Kacey plays dead
21:40 VanessaE mauvebic: ah.  happy new years' wishes I'm sure :-)
21:41 * Obiewan1111 Wishes everyone a Happy New Year! :D
21:42 mauvebic yeah, some of them in groggy lol
21:42 Vibe-X just one question about the world generation, i read "Almost infinite world and a fairly good map generator (limited to +-31000 blocks in all directions at the moment)"
21:42 Vibe-X is that beacuse of the sqlite3 file?
21:43 Vibe-X that there are file restrictions (32bit) ?
21:43 VanessaE I think the choice was somewhat arbitrary
21:44 Vibe-X mh i hope that will be increased :) and the type of saving would be cahnged :/
21:44 Vibe-X i think 1 file will be corrupted easier then in minecraft e.g.
21:45 mauvebic testing waterflow to aeroponics trays and then ill take a look at the updated zipball
21:49 Kacey anyone have an old MC account that they dont want
21:50 Obiewan1111 Dude.
21:50 Obiewan1111 Stay at minetest
21:50 Muadtralk PIRACY!!!!!!! It's a wonderful wonderful thing!
21:50 * Muadtralk breaks into song and dance number
21:50 Kacey i am i am thinking about stealing some  code/ ideas from MC
21:50 Obiewan1111 In a few releases, we'll be better than mc.
21:51 Muadtralk if you just want to check out what MC has http://mineshafter.appspot.com/
21:51 moltenbot Muadtralk's link: Mineshafter
21:51 mauvebic victory! trays filling up: http://www.zimg.eu/i/1441043057
21:52 VanessaE yay!!!!
21:52 VanessaE now, you'll need to tweak your rules, the spigot is horizontal connect, and pours vertically
21:53 VanessaE like the faucet on your bathtub or garden hose
21:53 mauvebic functions are written just need to adapt to new devices now :-) (easu)
21:53 VanessaE I'm working on crafting recipes
21:53 Kacey afk
21:57 Vibe-X vanessa? whioch functions? in c or is it a mod, what you are coding? :)
21:57 VanessaE a mod
21:57 Vibe-X ah which one, if i are allowed to ask
21:57 VanessaE my pipeworks mod
21:57 VanessaE mauvebic and I are working on improvements to it
21:57 Vibe-X ah i read about i think
21:59 Obiewan1111 Anyone else wishing to participate in the minetest quick build challenge?
22:00 Vibe-X what is this?
22:00 Vibe-X build as fast you can?
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22:01 Vibe-X VanessaE, is the master zipball the newest version ,or do i need to download from the git?
22:01 VanessaE Vibe-X: master zipball, but I have more stuff on the way, so you should wait for a bit yet
22:01 Obiewan1111 Vibe, you have 10 mins to build a chosen topic against me.
22:02 Obiewan1111 Winner if the person with the most votes from the comments section in youtube.
22:02 Vibe-X of course, i just interested which option would be newer, but i think after git update the master zip will be updated too
22:02 Vibe-X ah nice idea @Obi
22:02 kaeza hello everyone
22:02 Vibe-X hi
22:03 Obiewan1111 Minecraft did it first. But.. Who cares?
22:03 VanessaE mauvebic: crafts updated.  Please pull.
22:04 Vibe-X minecraft needs years to update and is not interested in ideas and wishes from normal users
22:04 Kacey ooh hai kaeza
22:04 kaeza hey Kacey
22:04 VanessaE Vibe-X: in theory, either link will work - it's just that the zipball doesn't give you all the commit history, so you can't use it to develop patches with.
22:04 Vibe-X the plugins make minecraft interesting... nothing more. minecraft as itself is uninterested
22:05 Kacey lol found myself lost in mc for a while
22:05 Vibe-X ah okay, alright. thought the git would have "stable" and dev maybe. but i will have a look on it, thank ;)
22:05 Vibe-X i got a mc server by myself, but will create public server for minetest
22:06 Vibe-X but the name "minetest" make people think, it is just a test not a real game :/
22:06 Kacey true true
22:06 Vibe-X hard to explain friends :D
22:06 TorpedoSkyline why not change the name to Opencraft?
22:06 Vibe-X ask c55 and the crew :D
22:06 TorpedoSkyline hehe ;P
22:06 Vibe-X but i ask me about license of minetest
22:07 Vibe-X if i would start a minetest server community with open server, am i allowed to make a ready to go package and offer on my webste
22:07 Vibe-X or am i just allowed to send to c55 page or git
22:09 Kacey we should work on an item_hold mod
22:10 Obiewan1111 You mean so people can see what you're holding?
22:10 Kacey yep
22:10 Obiewan1111 Agreed.
22:10 kaeza disagree
22:10 Kacey why
22:11 kaeza because in that case, with the bones mod, everyone will go after anyone that has a valuable item
22:11 RealBadAngel Vibe-X, you can modify, compile and publish your own version.
22:11 Kacey true but we should make it optional
22:12 Kacey like so you can turn it of
22:12 Kacey off*
22:12 Vibe-X i dont want to publish, but sometimes it is easier to create a full package and offer stupid users ;)
22:12 RealBadAngel so make it
22:12 kaeza s/stupid/not knowledgeable/
22:12 RealBadAngel or use thexyz's or sfan5's ones
22:13 Exio hey kaeza
22:13 iqualfragile ruskie: you are on libretree, arent you?
22:13 RealBadAngel http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/
22:13 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: Sfan5's Minetest Builds
22:13 kaeza hey Exio
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22:13 Exio the irc-mod is showing in the irc every command :P
22:13 kaeza ?
22:14 kaeza what do you mean?
22:14 Kacey lol if you say /home in game it shows it in irc channel
22:14 RealBadAngel http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4240
22:14 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: xyz's Minetest win32 builds (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
22:14 thexyz Vibe-X: you should provide source when providing binary builds
22:14 kaeza oh right I know about that
22:15 thexyz oh, well, I forgot to make it sticky
22:15 thexyz now I'll get much more attention
22:15 kaeza Kacey, Exio: I will try to filter these things
22:16 Kacey idc about it but Exio does apparently
22:16 vibe-x @kaeza -> some are stupid and dont want to learn :D#
22:17 Kacey VanessaE: i am making a new skin for me on your server
22:17 kaeza|jEdit vibe-x: true lol
22:18 kaeza|jEdit but it still sounds a bit less offensive that way
22:18 vibe-x yeah okay you're right
22:18 jeffrash john_minetest, can you join Zeg9's world and help me with a teleporter?
22:19 kaeza|jEdit Kacey, Exio: --> #minetest-irc-testing
22:20 VanessaE kaeza|jEdit: ok
22:20 kaeza VanessaE: ?
22:20 VanessaE d'oh
22:20 VanessaE Kacey: ok.
22:20 kaeza (20:14:17) Kacey: VanessaE: i am making a new skin for me on your server
22:21 VanessaE tab completion FAIL
22:21 kaeza lol
22:22 VanessaE mauvebic: *poke*
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22:23 * Kacey screams again but runs off
22:27 VanessaE there, forum thread is updated to account for today's work on Pipeworks.  at least, for the part I'm doing.
22:29 Kacey cant find the save button
22:30 sapier1 hello does anyone have experience with detached inventories?
22:30 Kacey nope
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22:36 RealBadAngel sapier1, whats the problem?
22:37 sapier1 on changeing a item in a detached inventory it seems to look for callbacks linked to it (theres a typo in info message too)
22:37 * PilzAdam is back
22:38 sapier1 ant when trying to access the detached inventory it tells that no detached inventory exists
22:38 sapier1 by that name
22:38 RealBadAngel can you show me your code?
22:39 sapier1 Of course, but I'm about to add a new feature to core so you probably need some information more than my code
22:40 sapier1 http://pastebin.com/LY17nzMB
22:40 moltenbot sapier1's link: minetest.register_entity("testmod:rct",  {  physical        = false,  collisi - Pastebin.com
22:40 sapier1 i think relevant info is starting from line 30
22:42 sapier1 showing the detached formspec combined with detached inventory already works I'm currently testing if everythin is working as expected but I don't have any experience with detached_inventorys
22:44 RealBadAngel sapier1, "list[detached:testinv;main;0,3;1,1;]" ..
22:44 RealBadAngel use this
22:45 * VanessaE pokes at mauvebic for signs of life
22:45 sapier1 great :-) it's working thanks
22:45 * Kacey screams behind VanessaE and then runs off
22:47 sapier1 @realBadAngel where to put core improovements for review?
22:47 sapier1 this special improvement will add npc trader support to minetest ;-)
22:48 RealBadAngel sapier1, to minetest_game or the engine?
22:49 sapier1 engine there hasn't been any way to show a formspec from lua by now
22:50 mauvebic sorry having trouble with trays facedir/connections
22:50 Kacey mauvebic: link to the pipes mod please?
22:51 mauvebic see pipes thread
22:52 mauvebic my local copy is full of partially working stuff lol
22:52 Kacey lol
22:52 VanessaE mauvebic: pull from git again
22:52 VanessaE more minor tweaks (bug fix, etc)
22:52 VanessaE I think I need to change the default orientation of the spigot to align along Z instead of X
22:52 VanessaE easier to place, that way
22:53 kaeza|jEdit mauvebic: does the outlet put water source or flowing?
22:53 mauvebic source always
22:53 mauvebic flowing evaporates
22:53 RealBadAngel sapier1, post pull request to https://github.com/celeron55/minetest
22:53 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
22:53 mauvebic or disapears
22:53 mauvebic however people like to think about it
22:54 kaeza|jEdit k
22:54 mauvebic i wanna make a nodebox water stream thats much narrower for small spihots
22:54 mauvebic *spigots
22:54 sapier1 @realbadangel thx I'm gonna do some cleanup and post a pull request
22:58 Kacey all i got in that mod was an inlet grate, pipe segment, outlet grate, and exp (?) outlet grate
22:58 Kacey am i supposed to download VanessaE's version also?
22:58 VanessaE mauvebic: spigot changed.  one last git pull plz :-)
22:59 mauvebic id rename one of the two kacey until i can sync
22:59 Kacey ooh ok
23:01 mauvebic trying to get the aeroponics equipment working w/ the pipes then ill get back to the devices and updating fucntions for the new parts
23:03 Kacey VanessaE: having problems with the pipeworks mod
23:03 VanessaE Kacey: it is in flux right now.  Whatever copy you have is probably already outdated :D
23:03 Kacey i just got it
23:03 Muadtralk good now get it again
23:03 VanessaE what's the problem/
23:03 Muadtralk and again
23:04 Kacey i had to rename it and then something in init.lua
23:04 jojoa1997 how do i push a repo in github using the shell
23:04 Kacey alright got it
23:04 VanessaE jojoa1997: cd to the folder;  git add . ; git commit -a (and write a message in the editor that coems up) ; git push
23:05 VanessaE comes*
23:05 VanessaE Kacey: what is the problem you're having? (use pastebin if more than one line)
23:05 jojoa1997 nvm
23:05 Kacey idk but i got it
23:05 VanessaE Kacey, regarding renaming... from the first post in the forum:   "Install:  Download and unzip the above file, rename VanessaE-pipeworks-blahblah to just "pipeworks", and move it into Minetest's mods directory."
23:05 mauvebic might be easier to copy paste your game folder and put the different pipeworks in one of them
23:06 Kacey i put one pipworks in the other
23:06 VanessaE you can't do that.
23:06 VanessaE don't install both, only install one or the other.
23:06 Kacey uugh i dont get the pump out of either
23:07 jojoa1997 this right
23:07 jojoa1997 # Initial commit update
23:07 jojoa1997 # Initial commit
23:07 jojoa1997 update
23:07 VanessaE jojoa1997: your commit message should be at least a couple of lines describing what the commit is for - what you updates, and why
23:07 VanessaE updated*
23:07 jojoa1997 okay
23:08 Kacey ok got it
23:09 Kacey now how do i get it to work?
23:12 VanessaE Kacey: don't try to use it yet.  It is not in anything close to a final state yet
23:12 Kacey i want to move water though
23:13 Kacey mauvebic: how did you get it to work?
23:13 vibe-x VanessaE, is there any wiki entry or hoto use your pipe mod? how to use the blocks?
23:14 VanessaE vibe-x: not yet.
23:14 vibe-x alright, so i wil have just a try :D
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23:15 Kacey crap...
23:15 codile joined #minetest
23:16 Kacey does there have to be water under the pump?
23:16 LAD joined #minetest
23:16 VanessaE there, another tweak to fix a rotation error...
23:16 mrtux Hello LAD
23:16 LAD hey mrtux
23:16 LAD i have a qestion
23:16 LAD what is a licence for a mod??
23:17 LAD ive made a mod but dont know what or how to fin the licene for it
23:17 vibe-x VanessaE, a pump/intake do i need to stand it in water e.g.? or how to use it? :)
23:17 LAD i gtg cya later guy/girls
23:18 Kacey HOW DO I DO THIS?!?!?!
23:18 VanessaE vibe-x: they don't work yet, but when they do, the idea is that you submerge it in water.
23:18 VanessaE like a fuel pump in a car
23:18 Kacey mauvebic got it to work
23:18 LAD hey VanessaE??
23:18 VanessaE hi LAD.
23:18 LAD what's a licence for a mod?
23:19 vibe-x ah alright van
23:19 VanessaE LAD: whatever you want to use.  WTFPL, GPL, cc-by-sa, whatever you like.
23:19 LAD idk what thous are
23:19 VanessaE LAD: google it :-)
23:19 LAD so can i just put one of thous randomly on my forums post??
23:20 VanessaE LAD: figure out which license you want to use, then say so in the forum post.
23:20 LAD ok
23:20 * PilzAdam is reading the -deb logs
23:20 VanessaE LAD: once you choose a license, stick with it.  Don't just randomly pick one or change from release to release.
23:20 PilzAdam seems like i missed the new years party there
23:20 PilzAdam (damn W-LAN crashed)
23:22 * OldCoder will be back a little later
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23:23 mauvebic yay got facedir/connection ruleset working http://www.zimg.eu/i/3377427258
23:23 mauvebic brb
23:24 john_minetest bye
23:25 VanessaE nice
23:25 VanessaE but don't rely on this - you need to prepare to use a spigot now :-)
23:27 Kacey thank god for github :)
23:28 Kacey but its not working :(
23:28 Kacey still
23:28 VanessaE Kacey: it isn't done yet.  It won't work until it is done.
23:28 Kacey uugh ok
23:29 Kacey but mauvebic has a working version
23:29 Kacey unless he cheated like i just did
23:29 VanessaE he's adding a feature to my code to make the mod able to move water.
23:30 VanessaE which one did you get, mine or his?
23:30 Kacey i used github to get it
23:30 Kacey probably yours then
23:30 VanessaE then you have the version that won't move water yet.
23:30 VanessaE mauvebic's code has not been merged upstream to my repository yet.
23:31 Kacey where can i get his code?
23:33 Muadtralk didnt the oil mod transport liquids somehow?
23:33 Muadtralk sort of transport them....
23:33 PilzAdam it doesnt have rules to transport it IRC
23:33 VanessaE Muadtralk: unreliably I guess.  This is a more generic one.
23:33 Muadtralk ahhhh
23:33 VanessaE Kacey: http://ompldr.org/vZ3dtaA/pipeworks-exp-010113-min.zip
23:33 VanessaE Kacey: but *just wait for us to finish!!!&
23:34 Kacey ok ok i guess ill start on a mod...
23:35 RealBadAngel it doesnt transport anythin in fact from what i saw, it just takes water at one end and puts it on anoter
23:35 RealBadAngel but it works
23:36 Kacey i cant get it to work at all :(
23:37 VanessaE Kacey: this only works in mauvebic's code:  Place an intake grate into water.  run pipes around and connect an outlet grate.  Be sure you dig a hole to receive the water.
23:37 VanessaE water should start pumping immediately.
23:39 Kacey i deleted minetest from this computer already
23:39 VanessaE why>
23:39 Kacey it is not my computer
23:40 VanessaE oh
23:40 Kacey ya
23:40 kaeza why does everyone keep using that silly table["fieldname"] syntax instead of table.fieldname? O_o
23:42 VanessaE inertia? :-)
23:42 VanessaE why do I still use separate register_on_punchnode() calls instead of on_punch = {} inside a register_node() call? :-)
23:42 Kacey i cannot understand a word you are saying
23:42 kaeza hehe
23:43 PilzAdam VanessaE, because you are obsolete? VanessaE 2.0 is already in the shops
23:43 VanessaE VanessaE 2.0 is buggy ;)
23:44 kaeza $ git clone http://github.com/gawd/VanessaE
23:44 kaeza testing...
23:44 Muadtralk then I suggest getting the expansion pack
23:45 Muadtralk with lasers and shark teeth
23:45 VanessaE kaeza: Some exception
23:45 PilzAdam kaeza, you need the hardware too
23:45 kaeza :P
23:46 kaeza hehe want something really silly?
23:48 kaeza _G["minetest"]["env"]["add_node"](_G["minetest"]["env"], { ["x"]=0, ["y"]=0, ["z"]=0 }, { [ "name" ] = "default:dirt" })
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23:49 Exio you should use brainfuck the next time
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23:50 kaeza hehehe
23:50 kaeza the fun fact is that that statement is valid
23:51 kaeza and is exactly equivalent to minetest.env:add_node({x=0,y=0,z=0},{name="default:dirt"})
23:52 Exio i still don't get what _G["minetest"]["env"] does after the first thing
23:52 Exio _G["minetest"]["env"]["add_node"]( .. _G["minetest"]["env"], ...
23:54 kaeza Exio: from the Lua manual: "To represent records, Lua uses the field name as an index. The language supports this representation by providing a.name as syntactic sugar for a["name"]. There are several convenient ways to create tables in Lua (see §2.5.7)."
23:54 Exio kaeza: i don't mean that
23:54 kaeza wrong quote
23:54 Exio i mean, you have 3 parameters in the _G[blablah] and 2 in the 'short' way
23:55 kaeza Exio: again from the Lua manual: The form <functioncall ::= prefixexp `:´ Name args> can be used to call "methods". A call v:name(args) is syntactic sugar for v.name(v,args), except that v is evaluated only once.
23:56 Exio ah, the 'self' value
23:56 kaeza yup
23:56 Exio i didn't remember that :P
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23:58 kaeza and in case you are wondering: _G: A global variable (not a function) that holds the global environment (that is, _G._G = _G).
23:58 sapier1 https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/383 -- This pull request is essential to take player <-> mob interaction to a new level plz review
23:58 moltenbot sapier1's link: add lua support for displaying formspecs for detached inventories by sapier ? Pull Request #383 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
23:59 kaeza IDK, that should merit a version bump, right?
23:59 ruskie iqualfragile, yes
23:59 kaeza because of changes in the protocol
23:59 iqualfragile oh, wow, you scrolled up that far?

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