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00:00 cosarara97 joined #minetest
00:01 OldCoder cosarara97, wb
00:01 Dogzilla131 joined #minetest
00:02 OldCoder Dogzilla131, Hi!
00:02 OldCoder Dogzilla131, PM
00:02 jojoa1997 anyone know a site that uploads pictures
00:03 jojoa1997 nvm
00:04 jojoa1997 has anyone seen the pocket edition for minetest http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3532
00:04 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Pocket Edition (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
00:09 iqualfragile1 jojoa1997: nope, but i dont think that will be done soon
00:09 jojoa1997 what will
00:09 OldCoder Are animals still High CPU?
00:09 OldCoder Dogzilla131 wants them
00:09 jojoa1997 the pocket edition
00:09 iqualfragile1 jup
00:10 OldCoder Pocket Animals?
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00:10 OldCoder iqualfragile1, how crashy are they?
00:10 iqualfragile1 OldCoder: yeah, the animals are still using alot of cpu
00:10 jojoa1997 <jojoa1997> has anyone seen the pocket edition for minetest http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3532
00:10 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Pocket Edition (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
00:10 kaeza back
00:10 OldCoder iqualfragile1, Can I reduce speed or something?
00:10 sapier1 @oldcoder I'm not sure I've just released a new version completely removing abm based spawning
00:10 kaeza hey Dogzilla131
00:10 Dogzilla131 hi kaeza
00:10 OldCoder sapier1, are you the animals author? Comment please. I am interested.
00:10 iqualfragile1 but you can try to blacklist all the mobs
00:10 OldCoder iqualfragile1, Go on
00:10 jojoa1997 not npc i have seen thye cpu go down with them sometimes
00:10 iqualfragile1 and then enable them step by step
00:10 OldCoder I may try this
00:10 iqualfragile1 yes he is
00:10 sapier1 If I'm correct this will reduce lag drastically ... BUT there's still github issue 229
00:11 OldCoder sapier1, what is it?
00:11 OldCoder 229?
00:11 iqualfragile1 https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/229
00:11 OldCoder If people will comment I will try animals now
00:11 moltenbot iqualfragile1's link: Server hang while processing entities with acceleration (e.g. animals mod) / bad_alloc crash ? Issue #229 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
00:11 OldCoder R
00:11 iqualfragile1 brb
00:12 OldCoder Hmm
00:12 OldCoder I'd rather not crash
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00:12 sapier1 It'll take some time to crash depending how much memory your machine has
00:12 OldCoder Is the workaround reliable?
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00:13 OldCoder Kacey, Hi
00:13 sapier1 reliable as I'm using it for months now .. but not reliable as in not changeing movement
00:13 OldCoder sapier1, the workaround prevents crashes?
00:13 sapier1 yes it does
00:13 iqualfragile sapier1: nope its not, minetest crashed 2 times (3-4 days ago)
00:14 sapier1 with same error?
00:14 iqualfragile there was no error
00:14 iqualfragile but the minetest-server got unresponsive for more then 5 minutes
00:15 sapier1 possibly another error?
00:15 OldCoder What about fireworks and industrial? Those are requested too
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00:15 sapier1 this workaround won't stop minetest from becoming unresponsive if you do overload server by purpose
00:15 OldCoder Overload in what context?
00:16 OldCoder Are there any other changes or patches I might add?
00:16 OldCoder To reduce problems?
00:16 sapier1 as in attached example code do acceleration by 10000
00:16 OldCoder Can you elaborate?
00:17 iqualfragile sapier1: i did not overload it by purpose, i have just git clone git://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack.git
00:17 sapier1 @iqualfragile current git is unstable so there still might be other bugs
00:17 iqualfragile that was 2-3 days ago
00:18 sapier1 no not quite "might"...I'm sure there are bugs in mobf at
00:18 sapier1 m
00:18 iqualfragile and when the server hung up there were a lot of vombies and they were burnig
00:19 sapier1 :-) so you had thousands of entities at once ;-) that's nearly same as triggering overload on purpose ;-)
00:19 jojoa1997 make the vombies spawn less
00:19 iqualfragile sapier1: how about changing the mobf defaults then?
00:20 sapier1 It's the burn animation doing overload ... minetest seems to work well with lots of entities ... I was thinking about that too
00:20 sapier1 making burn animation disabled by default
00:21 sapier1 I think there's a bug in sun damage system too making it even worse
00:22 sapier1 btw I've fixed gull movement in current git version
00:23 OldCoder If I volunteer to run this, what should I patch?
00:23 OldCoder Aside from the one line change in the GitHub issue
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00:23 sapier1 if you test latest mobf I strongly recomend adding the workaround from 229
00:24 OldCoder Should I just block mobf?
00:24 OldCoder What was iqualfragile suggesting?
00:24 iqualfragile nope
00:24 iqualfragile mobf has a build-in blacklist
00:24 sapier1 don't use mobf 1.9 in production by now
00:24 iqualfragile you can blacklist most of the mobs
00:24 OldCoder Any other changes or patches?
00:24 OldCoder iqualfragile, Would you like to patch a copy for me?
00:24 jeffrash_nexus John, you online?
00:25 iqualfragile OldCoder: thats a setting, no need to change any sources
00:25 jojoa1997 jeffrash_nexus: GO ANDROIDS
00:25 OldCoder But I'd like the setting changed in my copy
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00:25 OldCoder So I need two patches: 229 and that one
00:25 OldCoder iqualfragile, Willing to produce a copy?
00:26 iqualfragile jup @pm
00:26 OldCoder iqualfragile, I have PMd
00:27 sapier1 A little warning 1.9.5 has entity based spawn eggs ... blacklisting a mob AND enable removing of disabled mobs will remove those spawn eggs but if you delete mobf prior all of them are removed you'll have lots of unknown objects in your world
00:28 OldCoder sapier1, Not if I use this for the first time now
00:28 OldCoder Correct?
00:29 jeffrash_nexus OldCoder is 30015 down?
00:29 sapier1 the eggs are distributed on mapgen as soon as mobf is loaded
00:30 sapier1 maybe I'd really switch from black to whitelisting
00:31 iqualfragile !up oldcoder.org 30015
00:31 moltenbot Minetest server oldcoder.org:30015 DOWN
00:32 Kacey hello sorry i have been afk all day
00:33 OldCoder iqualfragile, jeffrash_nexus I am updating
00:33 OldCoder That is what this discussion is about
00:33 OldCoder Adding Animals
00:33 OldCoder jeffrash_nexus, ^
00:34 sapier1 @oldcoder plz make a backup copy of your world prior updating
00:34 jeffrash_nexus Cool.  Thanks.
00:34 OldCoder sapier1, Made it earlier ty
00:37 sapier1 @oldcoder plz tell me the bugs you find
00:37 OldCoder sapier1, Still deciding if it is even practical to use this
00:37 OldCoder Hold on ty
00:37 OldCoder sapier1, iqualfragile says to use older version
00:38 OldCoder animals_modpack-1.4.6.zip
00:38 OldCoder O.K. Two patches...
00:39 sapier1 1.4.6 is more stable but missing lots of features 1.9.x has ... while 1.9.x is not ready for general usage ... I'd prefere having bugreports for 1.9.x but I do understand if you don't have time for it
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00:41 OldCoder sapier1, I am more concerned about crashes than time
00:42 OldCoder sapier1, What file should I edit for the 229 patch?
00:42 Muadtralk I remember when i used that mod....
00:42 OldCoder Muadtralk, go on
00:42 sapier1 collision.cpp
00:42 Muadtralk i tweaked it to run with hardly any lag
00:42 Muadtralk it never crashed
00:42 OldCoder Do you have your version?
00:42 sapier1 1.4.6?
00:42 Muadtralk its so outdated it doesnt work
00:43 OldCoder Hmm
00:43 Muadtralk it was like 0.x something
00:43 Jakssoul Heyy-lo.
00:43 OldCoder sapier1, you mean I'll need to rebuild core, then. O.K.
00:43 OldCoder sapier1, that is a core patch?
00:43 sapier1 yes
00:43 OldCoder hold on
00:44 sapier1 without this patch NO mobf version will be safe to use
00:44 OldCoder Working on it
00:44 OldCoder O.K. Editing.
00:44 OldCoder Can you give me any context?
00:45 OldCoder I don't see any CollisionMoveSimple
00:45 OldCoder in the file
00:45 jojoa1997 yay display blocks 1.4 is out http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=60358#p60358
00:45 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: [Mod] Display Blocks [1.4] [display_blocks] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
00:46 OldCoder Is anybody able to tell me what to patch in collision.cpp ?
00:46 sapier1 about line 189
00:46 OldCoder collisionMoveSimple
00:46 sapier1 add "dtime = MYMIN(dtime,0.5);"
00:46 OldCoder Lower case. O.K.
00:46 OldCoder Right before...
00:46 sapier1 before first usage of dtime
00:46 OldCoder speed_f += accel_f * dtime;
00:46 OldCoder ?
00:46 OldCoder ScopeProfiler sp(g_profiler, "collisionMoveSimple avg", SPT_AVG);
00:47 OldCoder After that is O.K. ?
00:47 sapier1 yes between those two lines
00:47 OldCoder k
00:47 OldCoder Others: Is animals 1.4.6 fun?
00:48 sapier1 I don't know if there are many ppl out there using it with this patch applied without it it'll be rather anoying than fun
00:48 OldCoder Hmm
00:48 OldCoder But that is the majority
00:49 OldCoder So most people don't enjoy animals?
00:49 * OldCoder is curious
00:49 babyface1031 i would like to try it
00:50 babyface1031 is there a link to the forum i can look at?
00:50 sapier1 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=629
00:50 moltenbot sapier1's link: [Mod] MOB Framework [1.9.5 / spawning reworked] [mobf] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
00:50 sapier1 as told before 1.9.x is quite unstable atm but has lots of new features
00:51 OldCoder babyface1031, I think he says that it needs this patch
00:52 jeffrash_nexus I like the animals.  As long as there aren't to many in one place.
00:52 babyface1031 thats fine i just want to look at it so if you put it on i will know somewhat how to use it :D
00:52 OldCoder I plan to try
00:53 sapier1 @jeffrash_nexus there shouldn't be many mobs of same type next to each other did you have that happen?
00:54 jeffrash_nexus I made it happen myself in minecraft.
00:54 sapier1 :-) ok by purpose you can do it in mobf too
00:55 jeffrash_nexus 64 pigs in the same location.
00:57 sapier1 have a try it might even work with sheep
00:57 sapier1 no guarantee ;-)
00:57 jeffrash_nexus yep, sheep and cows and chickens too
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01:09 sapier1 wooh ... spawning entity style seem to be even worse than abm style :-(
01:12 OldCoder Oh, well
01:12 OldCoder it will get better
01:12 OldCoder It is about experimenting
01:16 sapier1 it's somewhat strange it only seems to behave that bad if many entitys are active ... I'll have to do more investigations probably problem is somewhere else
01:19 OldCoder
01:19 OldCoder sapier1, I need to remove fire dependency from mobf
01:19 OldCoder As I do not have fire in my worlds
01:19 OldCoder Is this possible?
01:19 sapier1 you'll have to remove animal_dm
01:20 kizeren OldCoder: What mod do you use on yours servers for setting "home" ?
01:20 sapier1 and animal_creeper
01:20 OldCoder kizeren, hang on
01:20 OldCoder sapier1, will that break much?
01:20 sapier1 you won't have boombomb and dm's in there but everything else will work
01:20 OldCoder mobf/fighting.lua talks about flame
01:21 OldCoder Do I need to patch that?
01:21 sapier1 I'll have a look but I don't think so
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01:23 sapier1 there's a reference but as long as boobomb ain't in there this ain't used at all
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01:23 OldCoder sapier1, so deleting those two mods and editing depends.txt might be enough?
01:23 sapier1 at least as long as no other mobs using self destruct feature are added but by now I don't know of any
01:23 sapier1 yes
01:23 OldCoder ty
01:25 sapier1 which version are you gonna try?
01:26 OldCoder 1.4.6
01:26 OldCoder with a blacklist by iqualfragile
01:26 OldCoder and your core collision.cpp patch
01:26 OldCoder plus fire changes
01:26 sapier1 ok just wanted to know what we're talking about :-)
01:26 OldCoder Sure
01:29 OldCoder ...team_game/mods/animals/mobf/management_functions.lua:467:
01:29 OldCoder bad argument #1 to 'insert' (table expected, got nil)
01:29 OldCoder 01:28:56: ERROR[main]: stack traceback:
01:29 OldCoder 01:28:56: ERROR[main]:  [C]: in function 'insert'
01:29 OldCoder 01:28:56: ERROR[main]:  ...team_game/mods/animals/mobf/
01:29 OldCoder management_functions.lua:467: in function 'mobf_add_mob'
01:29 OldCoder sapier1, If you can't comment, I understand
01:30 sapier1 I'll have a look at old code
01:32 mauvebic money supply manager (wip) http://www.zimg.eu/i/4291845872
01:32 sapier1 You most likely have a misspelled blacklist string
01:33 sapier1 there's missing an error check for this case
01:36 OldCoder sapier1, I got that from iqualfragile
01:36 OldCoder iqualfragile, are you able to comment?
01:36 OldCoder http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?3454e2a15a8b5125#N7ZkLKMRw4yWvMh76tvB51s6a0efvgNxThTn4byIhSo=
01:36 moltenbot OldCoder's link: ZeroBin
01:36 OldCoder sapier1, ^
01:37 OldCoder Hmm
01:37 OldCoder animal_vombie
01:37 OldCoder Is that it?
01:38 OldCoder iqualfragile, sapier1 can either of you comment on animal_vombie above?
01:38 sapier1 seems to be fine :-/
01:38 OldCoder Hmm
01:38 OldCoder So no explanation for the error
01:39 OldCoder Thank you regardless
01:39 sapier1 add this to init.lua:
01:39 sapier1 if mobf_registred_mob == nil then
01:39 sapier1 mobf_registred_mob = {}
01:39 sapier1 end
01:39 sapier1 right after
01:39 sapier1 mobf_registred_mob = minetest.deserialize(mobf_mob_blacklist_string)
01:39 OldCoder Hmm
01:39 OldCoder O.K.
01:40 sapier1 if your blacklist string is wrong this will catch it
01:40 OldCoder Wait
01:48 Kacey joined #minetest
01:48 Kacey back
01:48 Kacey is Taoki on?
01:50 OldCoder sapier1, same error
01:50 OldCoder sapier1, Thanks for your assistance
01:50 OldCoder 01:50:12: ERROR[main]: /opt/minetest044/share/minetest/games/octuteam_game/mods/animals/animal_cow/init.lua:
01:50 OldCoder 01:50:12: ERROR[main]: ...team_game/mods/animals/mobf/management_functions.lua:467: bad argument #1 to 'insert' (table expected, got nil)
01:50 OldCoder 01:50:12: ERROR[main]: stack traceback:
01:50 OldCoder 01:50:12: ERROR[main]:  [C]: in function 'insert'
01:50 OldCoder 01:50:12: ERROR[main]:  ...team_game/mods/animals/mobf/management_functions.lua:467: in function 'mobf_add_mob'
01:50 RealBadAngel hi all
01:50 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hi
01:51 RealBadAngel whats up?
01:51 sapier1 remove line 467 ;-)
01:51 OldCoder sapier1, k
01:52 Kacey how do i make a model?
01:52 OldCoder dofile (mobf_modpath .. "/compatibility.lua")
01:52 sapier1 no wait I see it won't help
01:52 OldCoder sapier1, do you mean that line?
01:52 OldCoder k
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01:55 sapier1 I don't quite see whats wrong there ... can you plz add
01:55 sapier1 print("ADDING: " .. dump(mobf_registred_mob) .. " mob: " .. dump(mob.modname) .. ":".. dump(mob.name)
01:55 sapier1 prior to line 467 in management_functions.lua
01:55 sapier1 print("ADDING: " .. dump(mobf_registred_mob) .. " mob: " .. dump(mob.modname) .. ":".. dump(mob.name))
01:55 OldCoder Sure
01:57 OldCoder sapier1, Sorry... add one print or two?
01:57 OldCoder table.insert(mobf_registred_mob,mob.modname.. ":"..mob.name)
01:57 OldCoder and do you mean, before that line?
01:57 sapier1 one print i missed a ) in first line
01:57 OldCoder and do you mean, before that line?
01:57 sapier1 yes before that line
01:57 OldCoder table.insert(mobf_registred_mob,mob.modname.. ":"..mob.name)
01:58 OldCoder k
02:00 Kacey how do i make a new animation for the players?
02:01 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/test.txt
02:01 OldCoder sapier1, ^
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02:02 sapier1 ok it's definitly your blacklist ... i dont understand why the fix doesn't catch it
02:02 sapier1 error:...opt/minetest044/share/minetest/builtin/serialize.lua:168: attempt to call method 'byte' (a nil value)
02:02 sapier1 Initializing probabilistic movement generator
02:02 OldCoder I will post the patched init.lua
02:02 OldCoder one moment
02:02 Kacey HELLO?
02:03 sapier1 yea but you want to blacklist those mobs fixing the blacklist would fix the problem too
02:03 kaeza hey Kacey
02:03 OldCoder Hold on
02:03 sapier1 ok
02:03 Kacey does anyone know how to make a new animation for the player
02:03 kaeza Kacey you have to learn to use blender
02:04 kaeza or any other 3d modelling program
02:04 Kacey i have blender installed
02:04 sapier1 having a application like blender installt ain't a big deal compared to be able to use it ;-)
02:05 Kacey well i can learn on the fly like i always do
02:05 sapier1 blender is another level ;-)
02:05 OldCoder sapier hang on
02:05 OldCoder something odd
02:05 sapier1 its far to complex to learn it without guidance
02:06 Kacey ok got texture open now to make it 3d...
02:07 Kacey without having to shoot myself
02:08 sapier1 have a look at youtube blender tutorials I've started learning blender about a week ago ;-)
02:08 OldCoder sapier1, O.K. I think I had two instances running. No error now. Now how do I find iqualfragile typo?
02:08 OldCoder iqualfragile, no offense
02:08 OldCoder http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?3454e2a15a8b5125#N7ZkLKMRw4yWvMh76tvB51s6a0efvgNxThTn4byIhSo=
02:08 moltenbot OldCoder's link: ZeroBin
02:08 OldCoder That is what I am using
02:09 sapier1 there's somethin weird going an as this looks perfectly reasonable ... perhaps some non printed chars in there?
02:09 OldCoder Hmm
02:09 OldCoder Reviewing
02:09 sapier1 newline for example
02:10 OldCoder No
02:10 OldCoder See init.lua
02:10 OldCoder Hold on
02:10 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/init.txt
02:10 OldCoder Line 111 of that
02:11 sapier1 looks fine ... try adding a
02:11 sapier1 print("GOT_BL: " .. mobf_mob_blacklist_string)
02:11 sapier1 prior the deserialize line
02:12 sapier1 so we see what minetest sees as string to deserialize
02:13 OldCoder k
02:13 VanessaE zzz
02:15 jojoa1997 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wait what the answer is 4 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
02:15 sapier1 no its 21
02:15 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/animalog.txt
02:15 OldCoder sapier1, ^
02:16 sapier1 string is already a table value???
02:16 jojoa1997 4
02:16 sapier1 uhhh :-)
02:16 sapier1 sorry
02:17 OldCoder ?
02:17 sapier1 if you add this line in init.lua you should add it following way:
02:17 sapier1 mobf_registred_mob = { your blacklist }
02:17 OldCoder k
02:17 Kacey made a cube
02:18 OldCoder local mobf_mob_blacklist_string =
02:18 sapier1 and remove the deserialize line ... BUT you should add the string you got to minetest.conf
02:18 OldCoder becomes
02:18 OldCoder sapier1, I don't wish a 500 char line in the conf
02:18 OldCoder That is why I patched the init
02:18 OldCoder local mobf_mob_blacklist_string =
02:18 OldCoder that is the old line
02:18 OldCoder how should it read?
02:18 sapier1 that'd be what it was meant to
02:18 PilzAdam going to sleep now; bye
02:18 OldCoder c u
02:19 OldCoder sapier1, t y but explain
02:19 OldCoder local mobf_mob_blacklist_string =
02:19 OldCoder how should it read?
02:19 sapier1 revert everything you did in init.lua
02:19 OldCoder and?
02:19 sapier1 open your minetest.conf file
02:19 OldCoder Not the spelling test I assume
02:19 OldCoder No
02:19 OldCoder Thanks
02:19 OldCoder I rejected that earlier
02:19 OldCoder I don't wish a 500 char line in the conf file
02:19 OldCoder I usually patch this sort of thing in the mod
02:19 OldCoder Is there no simple patch
02:19 OldCoder to the mod?
02:20 sapier1 ok then the hard way :-) dont use mobf_blacklist_string but mobf_registred_mob
02:20 OldCoder with local keyword?
02:20 sapier1 if you set this string NO mob will be enabled
02:20 OldCoder What is the format of the line?
02:20 sapier1 you need to remove any of the mobs you want to have enabled
02:21 OldCoder iqualfragile says to disable them
02:21 OldCoder local mobf_mob_blacklist_string = {
02:21 OldCoder What should this be?
02:21 VanessaE ARGH PilzAdam pisses me off sometimes.
02:21 sapier1 mobf_registred_mob = { "animal_gull:gull", <...> "animal_vombie:vombie" }
02:21 OldCoder Wait
02:21 sapier1 no "local" in front of it
02:22 OldCoder sapier1, is it not a blacklist then?
02:22 sapier1 and AFTER minetest.deserialize(mobf_mob_blacklist_string)
02:22 OldCoder Would either you or iqualfragile be able to paste a patch ?
02:22 sapier1 ok if you add this to mobf you will disable all mobs
02:23 OldCoder sapier1, If I start over...
02:23 OldCoder what *exactly* should I do?
02:23 OldCoder Could you by any chance
02:23 OldCoder just paste the file?
02:23 sapier1 I' not quite sure if i understood what you want to do
02:23 OldCoder I don't want the server to be slow or crash
02:23 OldCoder :-)
02:23 OldCoder iqualfragile says to turn off the mobs
02:24 OldCoder That is what I am attempting to do
02:24 sapier1 iqualfragile suggested you disable all mobs and enable them one by one to find out which ones are ok for your server and which ones are to costly
02:24 OldCoder He made a list of animals
02:24 OldCoder This is taking a bit more time than I have
02:24 OldCoder Are there animals
02:24 OldCoder which are not mobs
02:24 sapier1 no
02:24 OldCoder and is there a way to run just them?
02:24 OldCoder Hmm
02:24 sapier1 yes
02:24 OldCoder no? yes?
02:24 OldCoder :D
02:24 sapier1 no there are no animals which are no mobs
02:25 sapier1 and yes you can just run them
02:25 OldCoder That does not compute
02:25 OldCoder :-)
02:25 * OldCoder sighs
02:25 sapier1 it does any animal is a mob
02:25 OldCoder Is there a good set
02:25 OldCoder of animals
02:25 sapier1 but you can disable each mob separatly
02:25 OldCoder that will not hose my server?
02:25 sapier1 so if you disable all mobs not being animals you have only animals
02:26 OldCoder sapier1, Is there any chance you could post a file that does this?
02:26 sapier1 most likely gull deer cow sheep and rat will be fine ... fish_blue_white and clownfish may be too
02:26 OldCoder All right
02:26 OldCoder I would be pleased to try this
02:26 OldCoder sapier1, Is there any chance you could post a file that does this?
02:27 OldCoder 20 worlds
02:27 OldCoder wait for the gentle herds
02:27 OldCoder You offer
02:27 OldCoder If there is
02:27 OldCoder a file for me to install
02:27 OldCoder Cause I am about out of time
02:27 sapier1 after the if mobf_mob_blacklist_string add following line
02:27 OldCoder Wait
02:27 OldCoder I assume I should start over
02:28 OldCoder Is this the case?
02:28 OldCoder sapier1, Is there any chance you could post a file that does this?
02:28 OldCoder There is a high risk of error at this point otherwise
02:28 OldCoder Or
02:29 OldCoder Should I start over?
02:29 sapier1 mobf_registred_mob = { "animal_creeper:creeper", "animal_dm:dm",  "animal_big_red:big_red", "mob_slime:slime_L", "mob_slime:slime_M", "mob_slime:slime_S", "mob_npc:npc", "animal_vombie:vombie" }
02:29 OldCoder But what of the blacklist string?
02:29 OldCoder sapier1, I am out of time. Is there a chance you could post the correct file?
02:29 sapier1 you don't wanna set it in config file so you don't need to use it
02:29 OldCoder sapier1, I am out of time. Is there a chance you could post the correct file?
02:30 sapier1 the file IS correct
02:30 OldCoder 75 minutes now
02:30 sapier1 you wanna disable mobs a hacky way it's not meant to be done
02:30 OldCoder Not any longer correct... I have been editing it
02:30 OldCoder And I am not clear on where you wish me to start
02:31 sapier1 ok ok sorry
02:31 OldCoder sapier1, I thank you for your time... I can try animals in the future
02:31 sapier1 you seem to se 1.4.5 am I correct?
02:31 OldCoder 1.4.6
02:31 OldCoder is what he gave me
02:31 sapier1 ok wrong version number in there my fault
02:32 sapier1 you may add:
02:32 sapier1 mobf_registred_mob = { "animal_creeper:creeper", "animal_dm:dm",  "animal_big_red:big_red", "mob_slime:slime_L", "mob_slime:slime_M", "mob_slime:slime_S", "mob_npc:npc", "animal_vombie:vombie" }
02:32 sapier1 no matter what you changed after the if block
02:33 OldCoder sapier1, I am actually pretty tired and must move on. Pushing 90 minutes now.
02:33 OldCoder If you are able to provide the mod I will run it proudly
02:33 OldCoder in 20 worlds
02:33 OldCoder I do not usually spend 90 minutes per mod on this
02:34 OldCoder kaeza IRC mod is an exception
02:34 kaeza hm?
02:34 OldCoder kaeza, nothing... I am integrating your mod
02:34 OldCoder into my server framework
02:34 sapier1 I'm sorry but I've already added an easy configurable way to select mobs ... I don't understand why you refuse to use it
02:34 OldCoder worlds will install it and set up IRC automatically
02:34 kaeza k
02:34 OldCoder sapier1, I do not wish 500 character lines in the conf file
02:35 OldCoder I usually tailor that kind of thing with mod patches
02:35 OldCoder which are part of my framework
02:35 sapier1 but I can't tailor a mod for everyone wanting to use it?
02:35 OldCoder No
02:35 OldCoder Perhaps you can for a 20 world set
02:35 OldCoder It is up to you
02:35 OldCoder Considering that it appears to be a one line change
02:36 OldCoder This is not entirely unreasonable
02:36 OldCoder
02:36 OldCoder You have repeated one line several times
02:36 OldCoder But I do not have the context
02:36 OldCoder Of where to start
02:36 OldCoder If I attempt this
02:36 OldCoder There will be errors
02:36 sapier1 ok I'll prepare it for you
02:36 OldCoder It is your decision
02:36 OldCoder
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02:47 sapier1 @oldcoder http://www.mediafire.com/?f1gnw3wynlcjkcc --> 1.4.7 oldcoder special edition
02:47 moltenbot sapier1's link: animals_modpack-1.4.7.zip
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02:49 OldCoder sapier1, reviewing
02:54 jojoa1997 is obiewan111 here
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03:00 OldCoder sapier1, trying it. Thanks and we'll test.
03:01 sapier1 habe fun ... I'm hoping to get 1.9 stable soon it'll support mesh based animated mobs
03:02 Kacey we need a village/villager mod
03:02 sapier1 isn't here a village mod?
03:04 Kacey but one that adds NPCs and chests with things in them
03:04 sapier1 npc doing what?
03:04 Kacey just living
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03:05 sapier1 "living" is a big word ;-) eating drinking having fun ?  ;-)
03:05 Kacey walking aroundin a set area
03:05 OldCoder simtest
03:05 Kacey interacting with objeccts around it
03:05 OldCoder You want SimTest :-)
03:05 OldCoder sapier1, He imagines Simcity in MT
03:05 Kacey no i want a village mod
03:05 OldCoder Yep
03:05 OldCoder VillageTest
03:06 Kacey no just a few houses that randomly spawn and you can live in or loot
03:06 sapier1 :-) you may implement those nps's in mobf ... by now interaction will be somehow limited to not to often run against walls
03:07 sapier1 or chasing and hitting noisy players
03:07 iqualfragile sapier1: so cows have proper 3-D-models now?
03:08 sapier1 animal_dm mod spawns dungeons with mobs in there ... replacing dungeon by house and dm by villager and you'll have your village mod
03:08 sapier1 yes 1.9.5 has a cow walking(animated)
03:08 iqualfragile cool, gona try that
03:09 iqualfragile (should i run it in gdb?)
03:09 iqualfragile where do cows spawn?
03:09 sapier1 lol ... won't help lua can't be debugged with gdb ... I'd be glad itd work
03:09 sapier1 cows spawn on grass
03:10 iqualfragile ühm… it wont start, pm
03:10 Kacey sapier1 did you make the animation?
03:10 sapier1 yes ... don't blame me i started using blender 1 week ago
03:10 Kacey i started 1 hour ago
03:11 Kacey and those blender tutorials wont help i looked at one
03:13 iqualfragile Kacey: looking at one wont help
03:13 iqualfragile look at the noob to pro guide on wikibooks
03:13 iqualfragile and you need to do some work on your own
03:13 iqualfragile play around and try out
03:17 Dogzilla131 is there a mod that add beverages that are in a club, beer stand, and other places where they use that kind of beverages?
03:18 Dogzilla131 if there it is, i just i have new job, manager of a big club :)
03:20 sapier1 and look in wiki I've posted some small pieces of information what to consider when creating .x files to work in minetest
03:26 Kacey link?
03:28 kaeza I wonder if someone would convert Half-Life models to be used in MT...
03:28 kaeza :P
03:28 kaeza I'd like to see Headcrabs instead of rats :)
03:30 Exio hahaha
03:31 kaeza I have the Valve SDK, but I doubt the models' license is compatible with that of MT
03:32 OldCoder Hi
03:32 OldCoder I'd like to name my default world
03:32 OldCoder Which is presently called default
03:32 Exio 'MyDefaultWorld' should world
03:32 Exio >:D
03:32 OldCoder Would anybody like to name a world?
03:32 Exio work *
03:32 OldCoder Better than that
03:33 Exio i'm not good with names :P
03:33 OldCoder This is your chance to name a world
03:33 OldCoder Anybody?
03:33 babyface1031 ummm.....
03:33 RealBadAngel Haven
03:33 OldCoder Taken
03:33 babyface1031 oooo i like that one RealBadAngel
03:33 babyface1031 oh
03:33 OldCoder Haven is another game
03:33 OldCoder Hmm
03:33 Exio Nexus ground
03:33 OldCoder NakedFury spends a lot of time there
03:33 RealBadAngel Hyperion
03:33 OldCoder Nexus Ground
03:34 OldCoder Hyperion is the name of that book series
03:34 OldCoder He'd fuss
03:34 RealBadAngel yes
03:34 RealBadAngel thats why
03:34 OldCoder Naked Fury perhaps
03:34 * OldCoder shrugs
03:34 OldCoder Bad Angel
03:34 OldCoder I shall honor one of our contributors
03:34 OldCoder BadAngel or NakedFury
03:34 OldCoder Hmm
03:34 RealBadAngel toss a coin ;)
03:34 babyface1031 bad angel
03:34 NekoGloop joined #minetest
03:34 Exio BadFury or NakedAngel
03:34 OldCoder FuryAngel
03:34 RealBadAngel lol
03:35 OldCoder Yeh, we'll skip that last one
03:35 * VanessaE puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head.
03:35 * NekoGloop purrs
03:35 * Kacey steals the kitten
03:36 * iqualfragile puts a hand-granade on the kitten on NekoGloop's head
03:36 OldCoder AngelFury it is for now
03:36 Kacey O.O
03:36 NekoGloop So kacey has a kitten with a hand grenade.
03:36 NekoGloop Seems legit.
03:36 * Kacey eats the grenade
03:36 Kacey mmmmmmmmmmmm yummy
03:36 NekoGloop *burp*
03:37 NekoGloop lolwat
03:37 ecube lol
03:37 RealBadAngel anybody with an empty bucket to clean the leftovers after grenade eating>
03:37 RealBadAngel ?
03:37 Kacey i feel like making a map anyone in?
03:37 Exio RealBadAngel: lava bucket here
03:37 sdzen woah! its the gloop!
03:38 RealBadAngel Exio, even better
03:38 NekoGloop woah! its the drama!
03:39 sdzen hmmmm?
03:39 sdzen i dont cause much do I?
03:39 NekoGloop lol nothing.
03:39 NekoGloop the way you said it made it seem dramatic.
03:40 sapier1 left #minetest
03:40 * Kacey loves drama
03:41 * mauvebic removes trousers
03:41 * NekoGloop slowly inches away
03:42 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg64Qofzoyo you will die...
03:42 moltenbot Kacey's link: Let's Play Minecraft Episode 27 - YouTube
03:43 Kacey we need some of these
03:43 davidpace joined #minetest
03:44 davidpace Hello Guys!
03:44 Kacey hallo
03:44 OldCoder NEWS coming below
03:44 davidpace :-) Hello OldCoder
03:45 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnWDB1vfFhA
03:45 Kacey we need some videos on minetest
03:45 davidpace Working on it :D
03:45 OldCoder NEWS Half of my worlds are connected to IRC now. The rest will follow. Animals in Octuworld; come see the zoo. VanessaE world updated; it is cool. davidpace hello. conifers everywhere. MarkV has his new world wish; I will display his world as a test but not interact it yet. New player 3D avatars; come and get 'em. More stuff coming soon including Giant Trees.
03:46 NekoGloop Well y'all drove jordan off so that's yer own fault.
03:46 ecube nice :o
03:46 iqualfragile OldCoder: wich channel are they connected to?
03:46 davidpace :-)
03:46 OldCoder iqualfragile, list in a minute
03:46 davidpace Kacey, check this out: http://www.youtube.com/user/MinetestCommunity?feature=mhee
03:46 moltenbot davidpace's link: MinetestCommunity - YouTube
03:47 Kacey i need to install the animals mod...
03:47 davidpace I'm working on editing a video now
03:47 davidpace To upload it
03:47 iqualfragile Kacey: no, you do not
03:47 davidpace I only give out the password to that channel to whom I trust
03:47 iqualfragile but if you so: make it quick so i can assist you
03:48 OldCoder For now MT connects to the Real World of IRC through: ##mtangelfury, ##mtmarktwain, ##mtmauvebic, ##mtmetropolis, ##mtoctuteam, ##mtopenmine, ##mtveritas, ##mtzegaton
03:48 OldCoder More channels coming
03:48 davidpace Nice Job OldCoder!
03:48 OldCoder Sure
03:48 iqualfragile davidpace: whats the song you use called and: do you have the right to use it?
03:48 davidpace Yes I do
03:48 OldCoder In the future we may merge the channels but kaeza mod will need to be modified to sort things out
03:49 kaeza OldCoder: may I test?
03:49 davidpace Techno Delux by Musicshake, its one of the songs youtube offers
03:50 babyface1031 join ##mtoctuteam
03:50 Kacey wow for is not spelled fo
03:50 Kacey lol
03:52 Kacey but we need an "Average Day in Minetest" video
03:53 davidpace I'll work on it soon enough
03:53 Kacey can i be in it?
03:53 sdzen okay then if someone can record offtopic events in the IRC and put them in a video that would sum up a average day in minetest
03:53 davidpace Umm maybe. Depends on timing
03:53 sdzen :P
03:55 Kacey lol the random things i build
03:56 OldCoder kaeza, By all means
03:56 OldCoder kaeza, It worked
03:56 OldCoder kaeza, the bot output came back in PM
03:56 sdzen watch me fly up and down with a water bucket
03:56 * OldCoder is on a short break
03:56 kaeza OldCoder: good
03:56 sdzen pretty much sums up most of my gameplay
03:56 jeffrash OldCoder, did you load the animals?
03:57 jeffrash I'll check tomorrow.  Bed time.  Good night.
03:57 Kacey watch me build something big and fall off of it
03:57 Kacey my gameplay
03:58 NekoGloop Watch me make a hugeass hole in the ground.
03:58 NekoGloop my gameplay.
03:59 Kacey lol put them all together
03:59 Kacey a big house in a huge hole while sdzen runs up and down with a bucket
04:05 kaeza joined #minetest
04:05 kaeza back
04:05 Exio wb :P
04:05 kaeza thx
04:05 kaeza lights out :(
04:08 OldCoder Hi
04:08 OldCoder Back
04:08 OldCoder jeffrash, I did
04:08 OldCoder Baby Face found a bird
04:08 OldCoder Animals will migrate to other servers if there are no crashes
04:09 davidpace Animals?
04:09 davidpace 3D?
04:10 davidpace What kind?
04:13 iqualfragile watch me build a skycastle
04:13 iqualfragile my gameplay
04:16 sdzen time to watch a person play with blocks
04:16 davidpace lol
04:16 sdzen wait i think i can upgrade this to realtime
04:17 sdzen let me get my 3 year old brother
04:17 sdzen and some wooden blocks
04:17 davidpace Haha
04:18 Kacey we need item_hold to work...
04:21 sdzen we need lots of things
04:21 sdzen :P
04:21 sdzen I am too tired to remember the list of things people want out of minetest
04:21 VanessaE EVERYTHING!
04:21 VanessaE :-)
04:22 Kacey lol
04:22 sdzen but i do know its very long biased and contradictory
04:22 Kacey lol
04:22 VanessaE CODE ALL THE THINGS!!
04:22 iqualfragile soo, gute nacht leute
04:22 VanessaE *looks worried*
04:22 VanessaE code ALL the things?
04:22 sdzen we need to be able to play minetest within minetest within minetest
04:22 Kacey good night ___________
04:22 sdzen night dude
04:22 Kacey sdzen:yes
04:23 sdzen then that last minetest must play halo 4
04:23 RealBadAngel sdzen, you watched Inception too many times propably ;)
04:23 sdzen hmmm?
04:23 sdzen never
04:23 sdzen I really wanna see it
04:23 RealBadAngel so you should
04:23 sdzen whats it about?
04:23 RealBadAngel its about dream in a dream in a dream :)
04:24 RealBadAngel cool movie
04:24 mauvebic ive had those
04:24 kaeza *SPOILER ALERT*
04:24 mauvebic kept dreaming i was waking up lol
04:24 kaeza too late
04:24 mauvebic god forbid the day i go into work naked thinking its a dream
04:25 Kacey lol
04:26 mauvebic the worse bit is dreaming about work lol
04:26 davidpace Wait for it...
04:26 davidpace Wait for it!
04:27 RealBadAngel sdzen, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hP9D6kZseM
04:27 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: Inception - Official Trailer [HD] - YouTube
04:27 davidpace WAIT FOR IT! DON'T MOVE!
04:28 * VanessaE moves slightly.
04:28 davidpace Inception was amazing
04:28 davidpace VanessaE you ruined the moment
04:28 VanessaE just playing :-)
04:28 davidpace It's gone now
04:28 davidpace Lol
04:28 * NekoGloop tosses this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnWDB1vfFhA
04:29 VanessaE I'm still waiting for whatever it is I'm supposed to wait for :-)
04:29 davidpace Well, you ruined it :P
04:29 davidpace Here it is!!!
04:29 davidpace http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aQk-kXwSo0
04:29 moltenbot davidpace's link: How do Download, And install a Texture Pack in Minetest! - YouTube
04:30 sdzen bad moltenbot you ignored neko!
04:30 davidpace Haha
04:30 NekoGloop It always does.
04:30 kaeza hey NekoGloop :3
04:30 davidpace Lol
04:30 NekoGloop Probably by popular demand.
04:30 davidpace It doesn't like you NekoGloop D:
04:31 NekoGloop Well that i knew.
04:31 VanessaE iqual made moltenbot not like me, too :-)
04:31 sdzen too much japanese for it to handle I assume
04:31 davidpace ...
04:31 davidpace Lol
04:31 sdzen I think it likes me
04:31 sdzen let me try
04:31 davidpace And me
04:31 sdzen http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cave-johnson-combustible-lemons
04:31 moltenbot sdzen's link: Cave Johnson / Combustible Lemons | Know Your Meme
04:32 sdzen cool
04:32 * davidpace http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aQk-kXwSo0
04:32 moltenbot davidpace's link: How do Download, And install a Texture Pack in Minetest! - YouTube
04:32 VanessaE david:  -1000 for google chrome, +10000000000 for HDX :-)
04:32 davidpace Yep, its not because he did /me
04:32 davidpace Whats wrong with chrome?
04:32 VanessaE nothing, I was kidding :-)
04:32 NekoGloop Chrome Is The Enemy Of Linux Users.
04:32 davidpace Lol
04:33 NekoGloop So did like nobody click that.
04:33 davidpace Sometimes I use ubuntu, I use windows7 most of the time because everything is saved on it
04:33 davidpace I did
04:33 VanessaE that title screen beats the shit out of the old one :D
04:34 davidpace Yea it does!
04:34 NekoGloop Oh right, the german denizens of #minetest have me ignored, that's right.
04:34 VanessaE no, they're still asleep :-)
04:35 NekoGloop If anyone should be asleep it's me and you.
04:35 VanessaE a 11:35pm?  naw
04:35 VanessaE too early yet.
04:35 RealBadAngel btw, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yqVD0swvWU
04:35 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: How Lord of The Rings Should Have Ended - YouTube
04:35 davidpace Lol
04:35 Exio chrome is shit because it needs 1337 GB of ram for 30 tabs
04:36 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: I found a polish version of Bad Apple :D
04:36 Exio i had 200~ tabs here ( netbook ) without any big lag
04:36 davidpace Uhhh thats why you don't have 30 tabs open
04:36 Exio >:D beat it
04:36 NekoGloop Exio: source, now.
04:36 sdzen I found kirby on LSD
04:36 sdzen beat that neko
04:36 NekoGloop I, on average, have like 100 tabs open.
04:36 davidpace Why?O.o
04:36 sdzen I have on average 2 tabs
04:36 Exio what browser?
04:36 NekoGloop sdzen: Considering i have no idea what you just said...
04:36 NekoGloop Exio: Chrome.
04:37 sdzen and 40 windows
04:37 Exio NekoGloop: how many ram do you have?
04:37 NekoGloop davidpace: I hate adf.ly
04:37 davidpace Whatever, chrome is faster then IE, so I use it
04:37 mauvebic i have several rams
04:37 NekoGloop Exio: Idk, but not 1337 gigs :3
04:37 davidpace adf.ly?
04:37 sdzen midori works best
04:37 Exio everything is faster than IE
04:37 VanessaE "how MANY ram?"
04:37 VanessaE D:
04:38 sdzen he isnt running on any
04:38 sdzen he is made of ram
04:38 sdzen he just plugs himself in
04:38 Exio lol
04:38 mauvebic must be a dimm lol
04:38 Exio btw, i need to sleep
04:38 Exio bye everybody and NekoGloop :3
04:38 davidpace I am going to sleep too, soon
04:38 * NekoGloop kicks exio
04:38 * Exio hugs NekoGloop
04:39 sdzen goodbye people I dont know!
04:39 RealBadAngel Random Access Mauvebic?
04:39 RealBadAngel ;)
04:39 sdzen dont forget to not write!
04:39 davidpace O_Oo_Oo_o-_--.-zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
04:39 Exio lol
04:39 VanessaE RealBadAngel: no, just Random Mauvebic ;-)
04:39 mauvebic or Random-Ass-Mauvebic lol
04:39 davidpace I have a tremendous headache!
04:40 RealBadAngel take a hammer, hit yourself in the finger
04:40 davidpace I'm also going to sleep in 5 mins
04:40 RealBadAngel you will forget bout headache
04:40 mauvebic i hear inhaling butane fixes headaches
04:40 davidpace RealBadAngel: Very Funny
04:40 NekoGloop Then you will have a tremendous fingerache
04:40 davidpace You guys are all hillarious
04:41 sdzen simple solution for everything
04:41 VanessaE mauvebic: that's one hell of a way to solve a headache.... if you didn't keel over first :-)
04:41 sdzen suck a lemon
04:41 davidpace Actually, I think sleep will help this headache
04:41 davidpace :p
04:41 mauvebic funny story, people 'round here tried to get high that way (though i walk through the valley of the shadows...)
04:41 davidpace I shall fear no evil
04:42 davidpace :P
04:42 RealBadAngel yeah, yeah, dont forget the hammer
04:42 davidpace I won't
04:43 RealBadAngel hammerpirine is good for all
04:43 davidpace I bet!
04:44 davidpace I'm sure ramming my *Pinky* toe into a dresser will help also
04:44 davidpace Right?
04:45 Guest70221 NOoooo
04:45 DoctorDave Heheh
04:45 OldCoder Back and Animals work
04:45 DoctorDave What animals?
04:45 OldCoder We got fish and birds now
04:45 DoctorDave Are they 3D?
04:46 OldCoder DoctorDave, added animals to a world
04:46 OldCoder I have not seen them
04:46 OldCoder Some are
04:46 DoctorDave Which world, port?
04:46 OldCoder minetest.org 30004
04:46 OldCoder Ask Baby Face to show you the fish
04:46 DoctorDave May I have privs?
04:47 OldCoder Thought you did. Go on in and tell me your nick
04:47 OldCoder when you are there
04:47 davidpace Oh alright
04:47 davidpace Maybe I do
04:47 OldCoder Does not matter
04:47 OldCoder Go on in and tell me
04:47 OldCoder I can see you from IRC now
04:47 davidpace Loading Media..
04:47 OldCoder That is to say... the world is in IRC
04:47 davidpace It wont take long
04:47 OldCoder davidpace, allow time to enter unless it is cached
04:48 davidpace I know
04:48 davidpace 98%
05:02 sdzen goodmorning everyone! see you all by noon!
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05:11 NekoGloop Meow.
05:11 VanessaE meow.
05:12 * NekoGloop gives VanessaE a kitten
05:12 * VanessaE snuggles with the kitten for a few minutes and hands it off to OldCoder
05:12 NekoGloop I like how oldcoder is in like this pile of kittens.
05:12 VanessaE haha
05:13 * VanessaE hands NekoGloop a Mese Crystal - your kitten generator's running low.
05:14 NekoGloop My kitten generator runs on kalite, thank you.
05:14 VanessaE oh
05:14 * VanessaE hands NekoGloop a stack of Kalite lumps
05:14 NekoGloop No, these are no good.
05:14 * Kacey eats the kitten
05:14 NekoGloop I need refined kalite bars.
05:14 * VanessaE refines the kalite into ingots
05:14 VanessaE :)
05:14 NekoGloop It appears you lack the machinery for that task, ma'am.
05:15 NekoGloop A normal mundane furnace is incapable of refining kalite.
05:15 VanessaE I have an allow furnace, two grinders, and a Home Decor oven on hand too :-)
05:15 * Kacey looks around at everyone and slowly backs away
05:15 * VanessaE hands Kacey a kitten
05:15 NekoGloop You need a particle compressor...
05:15 * Kacey trips over the oven
05:15 VanessaE alloy furnace even
05:16 Kacey oooh hey thats where my mese went
05:16 NekoGloop No, particle compressor.
05:16 Kacey hey look what i found!!!!!
05:16 * Kacey hands VanessaE a particle compressor
05:17 VanessaE aha
05:17 VanessaE haha
05:17 * Kacey crafts a pick and digs a hole behind the oven
05:17 NekoGloop e-ey!
05:18 NekoGloop Gimme my freakin particle compressor back, little theif!
05:18 * Kacey falls into a massive mapgen fail
05:18 VanessaE lol
05:18 Kacey AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05:19 NekoGloop Crap.
05:19 NekoGloop I have to make another.
05:19 * Kacey lags
05:19 * Kacey ends up back in the house
05:19 Kacey hmmmmmmm...
05:19 Kacey lag
05:19 * VanessaE restarts Kacey's server
05:19 NekoGloop Kacey: so more like: AAA-AAAA-HHAAA-AAAA?
05:19 Kacey no
05:19 NekoGloop xD
05:20 Kacey i lagged after the scream
05:20 * Kacey rejoins the game
05:20 Kacey ow lag
05:20 Kacey DO IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05:20 * VanessaE places a teleporter under kacey and the matching one above him
05:20 * Kacey jumps down the hole
05:21 NekoGloop Since teleporters are nonsolid, he just teleports... And teleports... And lags.... And then teleports...
05:21 Kacey never fart into a teleporter lol
05:22 * VanessaE quickly replaces the teleporters with two Jeija trampolines :-)
05:24 NekoGloop I want a cookie.
05:24 * VanessaE hands NekoGloop a bag of Bugles.
05:24 NekoGloop Let's recalibrate this kitten generator then to make cookies.
05:24 VanessaE sorry, it's all I have handy.
05:24 * OldCoder reviews the kittens. He is not quite sure how to proceed.
05:25 VanessaE OldCoder: snuggle with them singularly or in multiples
05:25 NekoGloop The ever analytical third Alice approaches...
05:26 * OldCoder places an assembly of kittens into a laundry basket. Mew. mew. He adds a few kitten treats and a sign: Free Kittens.
05:26 OldCoder The kittens watch with interest to see who will claim them.
05:28 ecube That makes me sad...
05:28 NekoGloop At least give them a proper basket.
05:29 * Kacey steals the kittens and the basket but leaes half of the sign
05:29 Kacey leaves*
05:29 ecube nah, the thought of that kind of close-to-abuse stuff depreesses me.
05:30 * Kacey runs into a cave
05:30 NekoGloop Well the kittens are kalite given life basically.
05:30 ecube especially when they don't even understand what's happening...
05:30 NekoGloop =)
05:30 ecube ...
05:30 * Kacey makes sure nobody is in the cave
05:30 NekoGloop see: the particle compressor thing.
05:30 * ecube comes out and bashes Kacey around the neck and shoulders and steals the kittens back
05:31 * Kacey lays on the ground
05:31 Kacey ow
05:31 ecube no, i don't bash you
05:31 ecube i don't like bash that much
05:31 * Kacey finds the mese shovel he dropped a year ago
05:31 VanessaE what's wrong with bash?
05:31 Kacey hmmmmmmm...
05:31 VanessaE :)
05:31 NekoGloop ecube: see: the particle compressor conversation
05:32 * Kacey walks back to the house
05:32 NekoGloop VanessaE: It's not supported on most OS's.
05:32 ecube I never got the hang of it, vanessa, quite like you never got the hang of vi[m]?
05:32 VanessaE fair enough.  Besides which vim sucks anyway. ;-)
05:32 * Kacey begins beating everyone with the shovel
05:32 Kacey HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
05:32 VanessaE actually, doesn't cygwin run bash?
05:33 ecube vim doesn't suck
05:33 ecube it lets me keep my hands in the middle of the keyboard
05:33 NekoGloop do i look like i have the slightest idea what that is, vanessa?
05:33 VanessaE NekoGloop: it's a command-line development and testing environment for Windows PC's
05:34 VanessaE also BASH runs on OS X. :-)
05:34 VanessaE so that covers all three major platforms :-
05:34 * ecube is content to gawk at Kacey in the cave after stealing back the kittens
05:34 VanessaE :-)
05:34 NekoGloop Obviously because it's a linux ripoff.
05:34 * Kacey has problems...
05:34 ecube kill -9 Kacey && mv /home/Kacey/kittens /home/ecube/kittens
05:35 NekoGloop I'm not qualified to help with those kinds of problems.
05:35 VanessaE NekoGloop: actually I think it's intended more to replicate POSIX environments in general, e.g. BSD, other unixes, etc
05:35 OldCoder ecube, it was a comfortable basket
05:35 NekoGloop Let's all get drunk and sing songs.
05:35 OldCoder with kitten toys
05:35 VanessaE ecube:  mv: cannot remove `/home/Kacey/kittens': permission denied
05:35 OldCoder Hmm
05:35 OldCoder Songs
05:36 Kacey drunk? ok im down
05:36 ecube aww
05:36 ecube i thought i killed kacey though
05:36 ecube ...
05:36 Kacey i dont die i just bug out for a sec
05:37 ecube not when I shoot SIGKILL at you
05:37 VanessaE ecube: he's D-stated.  even SIGKILL won't do then :-)
05:37 NekoGloop Yeah, but remember the world runs in a proprietary format.
05:37 OldCoder When the ship runs out of ocean
05:37 OldCoder And the vessel runs aground
05:37 OldCoder Land's where we know the boat is found
05:37 OldCoder Now there's nothing unexpected
05:37 OldCoder About the water giving out
05:37 OldCoder "land's" not a word we have to shout.
05:37 OldCoder
05:37 OldCoder But there's something beside the shoreline
05:37 NekoGloop oh god, oldcoder started singing :3
05:37 ecube WAAT
05:37 OldCoder Moving across the beachhead
05:37 OldCoder Coming up from the shipwreck
05:37 OldCoder Making as if to say:
05:37 ecube how can he be when he's in a damn cave
05:37 OldCoder
05:37 OldCoder Women & men
05:37 OldCoder Women & men
05:38 OldCoder Women & men
05:38 OldCoder Women & men
05:38 OldCoder :-)
05:38 ecube you can't be dstated when you're in a damn cave
05:38 NekoGloop You missed the "drunk" part, methinks.
05:38 OldCoder They do good songs for drinking
05:38 ecube idk where to insert drunk...
05:38 Kacey drink,drank,drunk
05:38 NekoGloop I was talking to oldcoder...
05:38 VanessaE ecube: he's spinlocked waiting for /dev/sun to return from the last call of set.night()
05:38 Kacey that is an actual song
05:38 OldCoder Once a boy named Mister Me bemoaned a great regret I've floundered in the misty sea, but can't abide its mystery I wound up sad, you bet
05:39 OldCoder So onward go and Edward Ho into the boundin' main Enjoy the show look out below but mind the misty sea Or end up sad like Mister Me
05:39 OldCoder
05:39 * Kacey runs around within the cave
05:39 NekoGloop I didnt say "shanties", i said "songs"
05:39 OldCoder Those are good songs
05:39 * VanessaE listens to Asleep at the Wheel ("Ida Red" at present)
05:39 OldCoder There's probably one about kittens
05:40 * Kacey runs into a wall with a loud CRASH
05:40 ecube sigsegv?
05:40 VanessaE ecube: there, now while he's still sleeping
05:40 ecube hm?
05:40 VanessaE killall -KILL Kacey
05:40 VanessaE :)
05:41 ecube -9 is easier to type
05:41 * Kacey hit the wall so hard he must run a DEBUG in order to reboot
05:41 VanessaE lol
05:41 * Kacey reboots
05:41 ecube i thought he already caught SEGV
05:41 VanessaE fsck.reiserfs /dev/Kacey
05:41 ecube ._.
05:41 * Kacey loses internet as he tries to rejoin
05:41 VanessaE ecube: trapped by a signal handler. :)
05:42 * Kacey finally rejoins
05:42 ecube wb
05:42 Kacey OW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05:42 ecube no
05:42 * Kacey realizes he respawned within the wall
05:42 VanessaE Kacey: you're glitching again.  corrupt files somewhere in your /usr/share/leftarm tree
05:42 OldCoder So take the hand of Mister Me and mister Make him glad to swim the Mister Misty Sea and sees The Mister Mystery that mister made him sad
05:42 NekoGloop ./run device.jammer.antiKacey~active
05:42 ecube wait what
05:42 ecube i'm not good at art
05:43 NekoGloop I think someone here IS drunk.
05:43 OldCoder Not me
05:43 OldCoder No alcohol for months
05:43 NekoGloop It's just the question of who xD
05:43 OldCoder I am tired though
05:43 VanessaE wish I were, at least I'd be in less pain and a better mood than I am now :-)
05:43 * Kacey has to run DEBUG again
05:43 OldCoder Oh
05:43 VanessaE but no, that's for Monday night.
05:43 VanessaE I'll get thoroughly crocked then :-
05:43 VanessaE :-)
05:43 OldCoder VanessaE, do you know anything about git cherry picks?
05:43 Kacey aah thats better
05:44 VanessaE OldCoder: not too much, no.  Last couple of times I wanted to do that I couldn't figure out how\
05:44 OldCoder VanessaE, Let me PM a few commands for git
05:44 VanessaE ok
05:44 Kacey now if i could get that DM out of my cave...
05:45 VanessaE if it's in the same repo as my existing codebase, it's easy...  git cherry-pick 2463543438438432 <-- commit ID
05:45 * Kacey leaves to fight the DM
05:45 VanessaE but pulling from someone else's repo?  I have no idea how.
05:58 thexyz VanessaE: just add remote and fetch it
05:59 thexyz then you can cherry-pick commits from it
05:59 OldCoder thexyz, you are asleep
05:59 OldCoder thexyz, It stopped working
05:59 OldCoder Tried to merge tonight
06:00 VanessaE thexyz:  yeah, OldCoder explained it already in msg.  Now I understand.
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06:08 Dogzilla131 i cant see the recipes for mob framework can somebody put somewhere else a can go
06:08 Jeija Not again!
06:08 VanessaE what?
06:09 Jeija If there is a warning by chromium, just click advanced + continue
06:10 VanessaE heh
06:10 Jeija that's what these warnings are for, arent't they?
06:10 VanessaE beats me :-)
06:13 * Kacey returns half dead
06:13 Kacey owie
06:14 * Kacey is off to find apples
06:15 * ecube gives Kacey a wormy apple
06:16 thexyz you mean, bad apple?
06:17 Dogzilla131 still cant :(
06:19 kaeza hi everyone
06:20 OldCoder Hi
06:20 VanessaE hey kaeza.
06:21 kaeza whassup?
06:21 VanessaE my level of fatigue at the moment :-O
06:21 VanessaE I should sleep but I'm too lazy to go upstairs to the bedroom
06:21 kaeza D
06:21 kaeza :D*
06:21 ecube Sleep at the keyboard!
06:21 VanessaE (yes, like a good geek, I spend most of my time in the basement :-) )
06:21 ecube like I sometimes accidentally do
06:22 kaeza typo on a smiley, that's a new one :)
06:34 Dogzilla131 please can somebody take a picture and give it to me
06:34 VanessaE a picture of what?
06:35 Dogzilla131 of the crafts of mob frame work
06:36 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=629
06:36 VanessaE the crafts are right there at the top of the page
06:38 Dogzilla131 yes, but it doesnt let me see it, it look like text document with a slash of green in the middle
06:38 VanessaE strange
06:38 VanessaE http://animalsmod.comuf.com/reciepes/recieps.jpg
06:38 VanessaE how about that by itself?
06:40 VanessaE try downloading the image file and viewing it with paint.net or gimp or some other image program
06:40 VanessaE if that didn't owrk I mean
06:40 VanessaE work*
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06:49 Dogzilla131 it says oops cant connect to it
06:49 VanessaE Dogzilla131:  your internet is being filtered then
06:49 VanessaE http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZxYg/recieps.jpg
06:49 VanessaE try that link
06:50 Dogzilla131 yes, thanks
07:01 OldCoder NEWS: Animals and Skins seem to be working well
07:02 OldCoder VanessaE, there is a barn in 30004 somewhere
07:02 OldCoder If you can find it before you sleep I'll blog a screenshot
07:02 OldCoder VanessaE, BTW your world should be up to date
07:03 VanessaE cool
07:03 VanessaE I'll look later
07:03 VanessaE for now, I need to go to bed
07:03 OldCoder NIght
07:04 VanessaE night all
07:04 OldCoder o/
07:04 ecube night
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07:44 kaeza good night! off to bed :)
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08:00 OldCoder Hi
08:00 OldCoder Who is around?
08:01 thexyz I am
08:02 OldCoder thexyz, Ah
08:02 OldCoder thexyz, PM ty
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08:23 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/misc.php?section=pun_pm&amp;pmpage=inbox
08:23 Calinou amg
08:23 moltenbot Calinou's link: Forum message - Minetest Forums
08:23 Calinou private messages :D
08:25 thexyz Calinou: yeah, I asked c55 to install some plugins
08:25 thexyz now we have PMs and polls
08:25 thexyz (and moderators are able to move posts from one topic to another)
08:28 sfan5 <thexyz> (and moderators are able to move posts from one topic to another)
08:28 sfan5 wasn't that already in before?
08:30 Calinou nope
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08:31 thexyz sfan5: well, you could move some posts from one topic to new one, then move all posts from new one, to existing
08:31 thexyz wasn't really handy
08:31 sfan5 ah, ok
08:31 Calinou gentoo user says something is not handy
08:31 Calinou seems legit
08:31 Calinou :>
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08:34 thexyz gentoo is handy and simple
08:34 thexyz and powerful too
08:34 thexyz Calinou: you haven't even tried
08:35 Calinou true
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09:03 OldCoder thexyz, you have met Bonsai right :-)
09:04 * OldCoder laughs
09:04 OldCoder I am copying that over to him
09:04 thexyz umm?
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09:08 OldCoder markveidemanis, Hello
09:08 OldCoder thexyz, Bonsai
09:08 OldCoder thexyz, He was pleased to see that
09:08 OldCoder I explained who he is, right?
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09:50 Minetest-tan GIT: RealBadAngel (RealBadAngel) commited to celeron55/minetest: L-System treegen b40e599866 2012-12-30T01:42:19-08:00
09:51 markveidemanis /join ##mtmarktwain <== i am OP
09:52 markveidemanis This world is on my personal server. Visit there to build. But it may move to the OldCoder Server Nexus. We are testing it. To see it on the Server Nexus visit minetest.org port 30010.
10:10 derakutenshi hi
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10:20 Zeg9 Hi!
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10:24 markveidemanis zeg...
10:24 markveidemanis /join ##mtmarktwain
10:39 markveidemanis Hi!
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10:59 markveidemanis hi
10:59 markveidemanis join ##mtmarktwain
10:59 markveidemanis am i silenced?
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10:59 thexyz markveidemanis: you are
10:59 markveidemanis why
10:59 thexyz please, stop spamming
10:59 markveidemanis then how do you hear me?
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11:01 thexyz stop it
11:05 markveidemanis !g irc voice
11:05 Minetest-tan markveidemanis: http://www.ircbeginner.com/opvinfo/opvinfo.html
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11:15 markveidemanis everyone on minetest.org:30010
11:22 markveidemanis minetest.org:30010
11:24 klunk markveidemanis: what are you doing, you gonna be ban, unless everybody mute you ...
11:24 klunk before
11:34 john_minetest markveidemanis: Stop spamming here
11:35 codile uhhhm...
11:35 codile what's going on here? :P
11:36 john_minetest not much. but more than on #minecraft :D
11:36 codile :D
11:36 codile is there really a #minecraft channel?
11:36 john_minetest yes. they banned me yesterday because i said, that there are less people but more conversation on #minetest
11:37 codile :D
11:37 john_minetest *they only muted me
11:37 codile but that channel isn't on freenode. isn't it?
11:37 john_minetest after i apologized to an op they banned me.
11:37 john_minetest #minecraft is on freenode
11:37 codile :D
11:37 codile weird, freenode is for foss projects only :P
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11:38 john_minetest Hi Obiewan1111
11:38 codile well. let's tell em #minecraft shouldn't be on freenode :D
11:39 sapier sounds like a very fast way to get banned too ;-)
11:39 codile yeah ;D
11:39 Obiewan1111 If you even hint of a free solution to minecraft it's an insta ban.
11:39 codile but it'll be fun
11:45 codile soo
11:45 codile lets see how fast i'll get banned :P
11:46 Obiewan1111 I'm going too.
11:48 fortytwo Obiewan1111: Such bans are probably because approx 99% of people offering 'free solutions' are pirating :/
11:49 sapier @fortytwo maybe true but just because 99% doing something wrong I don't like forcing other 1% stopping to do their legal actions too
11:50 fortytwo I was thinking more that they probably just didn't take the time to check and see it was something different
11:51 sapier even worse
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11:51 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:52 Obiewan1111 Cya guys.
11:52 john_minetest Hi PilzAdam
11:52 john_minetest PilzAdam: Does your git version of carts still feature mesecon powered driving?
11:52 PilzAdam yep
11:53 fortytwo sapier: Really depends on how it was said, if someone came into a channel and mentioned that there was a nice similar open source project I might check it out, but if they said 'free minecraft like game at this link...' I probably wouldn't
11:53 * fortytwo has no idea of the circumstance in question
11:54 sapier maybe :-) but I don't care enough about minecraft to go into details ;-)
11:55 john_minetest I only said, that on #minetest there are less people and more text.
11:56 john_minetest I think, if minetest is no danger to them, they would have simply ignored it. Banning means that they are afraid that we have something better.
11:58 sapier can someone tell me why my client is lookig for a mesh file at location it's on server sometimes?
12:09 * klunk have an existencial question :
12:10 klunk could we go to 2013 without a "boule à facette" disco mod ?
12:11 sapier I think we've survived end of world at 21. december we'll survive 2012-2013 transition too ;-)
12:13 klunk ouf, thanks sapier :-)
12:13 sapier but It'd be cool :-)
12:13 john_minetest well, my calendar ends on 31th december.
12:13 sapier 1.1seconds for initial on_generated function .... we need some built in spawn mechanism in core
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12:39 Minetest-tan GIT: dannydark (dannydark) commited to celeron55/minetest: Fixed compile issues on windows 912c48a490 2012-12-30T04:37:03-08:00
12:40 thexyz whoops
12:41 Minetest-tan GIT: dannydark (dannydark) commited to celeron55/minetest: Fixed compile issues on windows 5d18dc358b 2012-12-30T04:38:53-08:00
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12:53 thexyz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4240
12:53 moltenbot thexyz's link: xyz's Minetest win32 builds (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
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12:55 Jordach cant you just say new win32 build out?
12:55 thexyz of course I can't
13:00 iqualfragile WOOHOO l-system treegen
13:00 iqualfragile is there any tool for deleting parts of a generated map?
13:02 klunk (TNT, Landmine ?)---------------------------------------->/
13:03 klunk (sorry, it's morning for me...)
13:03 Zeg9 klunk, I think he means for generating these parts again
13:03 Zeg9 Matin ? à 14 heures ? ...
13:03 klunk ok, double off topic ...
13:03 klunk saperlipopette, déjà ;-))
13:04 Zeg9 :-)
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13:15 artur99 where can i find more atributtes for a mod?
13:15 * VanessaE is back
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13:17 VanessaE iqualfragile: someone wrote a world "slicer" program recently that might be of use
13:17 VanessaE if I could find the damn link
13:18 iqualfragile sapier: bug-report: my client cant find the moddels for the cow
13:18 iqualfragile it tries to search where the moddels are on the server
13:19 sapier yea I've seen that happen to ... but for steer and boombomb not cow ... at least if error messages are correct
13:20 sapier but there seems to be a major bug in callbackhandling too ... I've errors counting hundreds or registred callbacks ... i haven't even written next to so much callbacks
13:21 VanessaE iqualfragile: maybe you can derive something useful from this:  https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/129
13:29 klunk artur99: hello, had you already looked into some innit.lua files about that ?
13:29 klunk *init
13:29 markveidemanis [13:29] == ChanServ changed the topic of ########## to: Not so cool channel name
13:29 markveidemanis init?
13:30 klunk yes init.lua of mods give you examples, no ?
13:30 artur99 yes
13:30 artur99 i saw some...
13:31 artur99 can u tell me whitch mod is most easyer to unserstand?
13:31 klunk ok, API for mods not help you ?
13:32 artur99 just a little
13:33 klunk defaut mod , to start I think.
13:33 artur99 whats the name for marble?
13:34 klunk I will let place for other for this question because I'm making my first mod for... hem, some weeks :-)))
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13:34 artur99 for example, in api, i saw this:
13:34 artur99 {'default:wood', 'default:wood', ''},
13:34 markveidemanis !go fuck your mother
13:34 markveidemanis HA1
13:34 markveidemanis it not work...
13:34 markveidemanis haha
13:34 Zeg9 Dude no, not on this channel --'
13:35 markveidemanis sorry!
13:35 markveidemanis !sorry
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13:43 klunk artur99: markveidemanis wasn't talking to you of course; yes in mod API, default:wood is used to make deco:wood ; this part ?
13:43 markveidemanis me?
13:43 klunk markveidemanis: yes you wasn't talking to artur99, right ?
13:44 markveidemanis no
13:44 markveidemanis to zegbot
13:44 markveidemanis its a command
13:44 markveidemanis to make him leave
13:44 artur99 for wood is default:wood    , but for marble?
13:44 klunk I know it, that's ok for me :-)
13:44 artur99 default:marble?
13:45 klunk marble ? I don't think marble is in defaut mod, so it will become "original mod:marble" name
13:45 RealBadAngel technic:marble
13:46 klunk RealBadAngel: thanks !
13:46 artur99 aha
13:46 artur99 thanks
13:47 artur99 i made a register_node and a register_craft
13:47 artur99 do i need more?
13:47 klunk is it a cookable stuff ?
13:48 artur99 no
13:48 klunk will it possible to put stuff of your mod in a recipe ?
13:49 artur99 no
13:49 klunk you need to solve dependencies if it depends something more than defaut mods
13:50 artur99 for example tehnich mod?
13:50 artur99 *technic
13:51 klunk yes
13:51 VanessaE you don't need to worry about dependencies if all you're doing is crafting.
13:51 VanessaE if you register_craft() with items that the game doesn't recognize, the craft just doesn't work, but no error is produced.
13:51 * klunk let speaking serious modders*
13:52 VanessaE so you can "support" a mod e.g. technic, without necessarily depending on it.
13:52 VanessaE homedecor does this a lot for objects that need materials from e.g. moreores or moreblocks
13:52 VanessaE that way the rest of the mod still works if those others aren't present.
13:53 artur99 i maked a textures folder with an image, and a init.lua file
13:53 artur99 in init.lua, there is a register_craft and a register_node
13:54 artur99 do i need more?
13:55 VanessaE for your first mod?  probably not
13:56 VanessaE you should add comments to the start of init.lua identifying the mod, with your name/nick and date and license
13:56 VanessaE but that's not critical, just a good idea
13:57 artur99 im just testing it on my pc...
14:00 klunk he he , glad you are not testing on mine (stupid joke). Do you know where you can find debug.txt on your pc ?
14:02 markveidemanis hey, we are messing around on ###minetest
14:03 klunk you should erase your debug.txt, then test your mod in singleplayer word, so that your debug.txt will talking only about what hapened with your creation ?
14:03 markveidemanis hey, we are messing around on ###minetest come join
14:03 markveidemanis /join ###minetest
14:03 Zeg9 mark...
14:03 Zeg9 No advertising.
14:03 VanessaE markveidemanis: stop advertising channels and servers
14:03 artur99 i tryed in a singlepalyer mod
14:03 markveidemanis ok
14:04 Zeg9 If you want to advertise go on #minecraft XD
14:04 markveidemanis its just for messing around....
14:04 markveidemanis i will!
14:05 artur99 but i have errror...
14:06 klunk artur99: do you know somewhere to paste and share code ?
14:07 artur99 wait a second
14:15 markveidemanis !up minetest.org 30010
14:15 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.org:30010 UP
14:16 markveidemanis !join it
14:20 markveidemanis http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3954
14:20 moltenbot markveidemanis's link: MarkTwain Server (OldCoder Hosting) (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums
14:20 OldCoder Hi
14:20 devlab tsktsk, hello OldCoder
14:21 OldCoder Hmm?
14:21 OldCoder What?
14:21 OldCoder ?
14:21 OldCoder devlab, ^
14:21 * OldCoder is puzzled
14:21 VanessaE Is there some way to set the game's tollback recorder to go farther than 24 hours?
14:21 devlab i was refering to markveidemanis's request to join his server
14:21 markveidemanis i like Puzzles
14:21 OldCoder Ah
14:22 markveidemanis p
14:27 VanessaE nevermind, forget my question.
14:28 thexyz something random http://i.imgur.com/CDcPj.png
14:28 VanessaE thexyz: almost looks like something out of lincity-ng
14:29 VanessaE (because of the isometric view)
14:32 thexyz some day we'll have nice isometric mapper (like overviewer)
14:38 thexyz well, it probably will be slow as hell
14:40 thexyz isn't it cute? http://i.imgur.com/8heGU.jpg
14:43 RealBadAngel cute can be a playboy bunny, this is just good lookin ;)
14:43 Jordach code this... NOW.
14:44 john_minetest thexyz: how did you make these pictures?
14:45 thexyz john_minetest: with my script in python
14:45 Zeg9 lol everyone is using python today
14:47 john_minetest lol
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14:47 VanessaE thexyz: they look nice, at any rate
14:47 iqualfragile VanessaE: what looks nice?
14:48 VanessaE [12-30 09:42] <thexyz> isn't it cute? http://i.imgur.com/8heGU.jpg
14:48 VanessaE [12-30 09:29] <thexyz> something random http://i.imgur.com/CDcPj.png
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14:48 RealBadAngel wonder how it could look like with an oak
14:49 RealBadAngel thexyz, can you spawn one and make a shot?
14:50 thexyz uhh, now I need to find somebody familiar with imagemagick to create script which produces block images http://docs.overviewer.org/en/latest/design/designdoc/#block-rendering
14:50 jeffrash OldCoder john_minetest, I've noticed an interesting bug with protection blocks.
14:51 jeffrash I can add blocks one block closer then I can remove blocks
14:52 OldCoder Hmm
14:52 OldCoder thexyz, I magick without tragick consequences
14:52 OldCoder If nobody else helps see me after I rest
14:52 john_minetest jeffrash: It is no bug
14:53 john_minetest jeffrash: every protect block protects a 5x5x5 area
14:53 john_minetest when you are 6 blocks from it you can place blocks there
14:53 john_minetest when you try to set a protection block 6 blocks from the other protection block, the protected areas will overlap
14:53 jeffrash yes, but I can't remove the block I placed 6 blocks away
14:54 jeffrash I can place at 6 but not remove
14:54 john_minetest okay...
14:54 john_minetest strange.
14:54 jeffrash I think that's what's happening anyway.
14:55 RealBadAngel wheres the mod source?
14:56 jeffrash I'll be happy to help test
14:58 iqualfragile thexyz: that picture you posted ( http://i.imgur.com/8heGU.jpg ) looks heavily like there is something fucked up with the map-generation
14:59 VanessaE brb
15:00 iqualfragile OldCoder: how to spawn l-system-trees?
15:00 RealBadAngel http://pastebin.com/N9devVAy
15:00 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: protector.can_dig = function(r,pos,digger,onlyowner)  local ok=true  for ix = po - Pastebin.com
15:00 OldCoder iqualfragile, I don't know MT internals yet
15:00 OldCoder Except on a piece by piece basis
15:00 RealBadAngel starting at line #99 it should look like this to get full radius
15:00 OldCoder And it is 7am my time
15:00 OldCoder I won't be awake long
15:00 RealBadAngel +1 is missing
15:01 RealBadAngel https://github.com/Zeg9/minetest-protect/blob/master/protector/init.lua#L99
15:01 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: minetest-protect/protector/init.lua at master ? Zeg9/minetest-protect ? GitHub
15:01 iqualfragile im sorry i wanted to say: RealBadAngel: how to spawn l-system trees
15:01 iqualfragile Oldcoder: did you get mobf to run?
15:01 OldCoder iqualfragile, the animals are there
15:02 OldCoder Does that mean mobf is working?
15:02 iqualfragile jup
15:02 OldCoder http://christfollower.me/images/mt121229_chicken.jpg
15:02 OldCoder http://christfollower.me/images/mt121229_gull.jpg
15:02 RealBadAngel iqualfragile, http://realbadangel.pl/treegen_tools.zip
15:02 OldCoder http://christfollower.me/images/mt121229_sheep.jpg
15:02 RealBadAngel use example spawning sticks
15:02 OldCoder That sheep's face needs work
15:02 OldCoder I might do it
15:02 iqualfragile OldCoder: all the nodeboxes are gona be replaced by real models soon
15:03 iqualfragile afk
15:03 OldCoder k
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15:03 VanessaE[L] there, transfer that to the laptop.
15:03 devlab what's the use for marble?
15:03 VanessaE[L] decoration
15:06 devlab Zinc?
15:07 RealBadAngel many uses
15:07 devlab i know that Zinc + Copper = Brass
15:07 RealBadAngel http://technic.kosyak.info/
15:07 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: Techic recipe list
15:15 * VanessaE[L] relaxes in her easy chair
15:19 Jordach RealBadAngel, cant you use technic.realbadangel.pl#
15:20 RealBadAngel this site is made by ObKo, not me
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15:20 RealBadAngel we havent decided where to host it yet
15:23 john_minetest klunk? are you here?
15:25 klunk yes
15:25 klunk john_minetest: ? :-)
15:26 john_minetest I have made a 3d skin for you
15:26 klunk oh yes ?!?
15:26 john_minetest come to zegaton at spawn and i will show you
15:27 klunk arg, I can't now, will it be in inventory ?
15:27 devlab RealBadAngel: the ginder is a Low Voltage or a high voltage machine?
15:27 RealBadAngel low voltage
15:28 john_minetest klunk: yes, it is in inventory
15:28 klunk (finally, my arms becomes normal lenght )
15:28 klunk john_minetest: thanks a lot for that !
15:28 devlab with what generators it works?
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15:28 klunk I will take it as soon as I 'm on Zegaton
15:29 john_minetest klunk: np
15:29 sapier did anyone use meshes in client/server environment by now? seems mesh loading ain't working at all?
15:29 devlab RealBadAngel: the coal driven generator isnt working
15:30 RealBadAngel devlab, whats the problem with it?
15:30 devlab Time it taked to generate enegry
15:31 RealBadAngel make sure its connected to the battery box
15:32 RealBadAngel Low voltage one, not medium
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15:32 pier3 hi
15:32 VanessaE[L] hi
15:32 Calinou hi
15:32 Calinou VanessaE[L]: why [L]?
15:32 VanessaE[L] laptop
15:32 * Calinou renames to Calinou[D]
15:33 pier3 i'm trying to setup for the first time a minetest server, and having few issues with conf
15:33 Calinou wait, I'm using linux, so
15:33 * Calinou renames to GNU/Calinou[D]
15:33 VanessaE[L] lol
15:33 Calinou pier3: don't ask to ask, just ask :)
15:33 pier3 Calinou, i know
15:33 pier3 :)
15:33 sapier calinou is  is gpl now lets copy and modify him
15:33 pier3 typing slowwoolly sorry
15:34 Calinou sapier: btw, why are you using a non commercial clause?
15:34 Calinou it is beyond pointless (and are you even allowed to do that? that breaks the 4 freedoms defined by the GPL)
15:34 VanessaE[L] sapier, make copies of Calinou?  are you insane!?
15:34 VanessaE[L] ;)
15:34 Calinou it's not like a random guy will start selling your mod
15:35 pier3 first thing weird : when i craft something (wood of land of whatever), the *whatever* respawn automatically
15:35 sapier if not ... gpl won't apply so no license at all would be given resulting in having no license given at all ;-)
15:35 * VanessaE[L] listens to her cats going batshit insane upstairs
15:35 Calinou sapier: "no license" does not mean anything
15:35 VanessaE[L] pier3, are you using creative mode?
15:36 Calinou you always need some kind of license, even if it is "all rights reserved"
15:36 sapier @calinou ... no not quite yet but that's exacly what i intended to prevent
15:36 Calinou there is no need to be overprotective about it, we're playing/modding a game, we're all trying to have fun
15:36 sapier If there ain't a license you in fact wouldn't be allowed to do anything with it
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15:37 sapier I'm already thinking about other licenses ... but doing that I'm not sure if gpl is best for a lua mod
15:38 OldCoder sapier, There are many possible licenses. How about one of the Creative Commons group?
15:38 * OldCoder is going to sleep now
15:38 sapier cc-by-nc-sa would fit best :-)
15:38 * OldCoder notes that many changes were made on Saturday
15:38 OldCoder Yep
15:38 OldCoder That one is a favorite of mine
15:38 Calinou nc is stupid
15:38 OldCoder That is fine to discuss
15:38 pier3 VanessaE[L], http://pastebin.ca/2298055
15:38 Calinou zlib ftw :>
15:38 moltenbot pier3's link: pastebin - Unnamed - post number 2298055
15:39 sapier but wouldn't help marktraceur at all ... cc-by-sa wouldn't either both ain't gpl compatible
15:39 OldCoder Perhaps "appropriate" vs. "inappropriate" is better than "stupid"
15:39 Calinou sapier: why are you against any kind of commercial stuff..
15:39 Calinou everyone needs to eat
15:39 OldCoder Yep
15:39 OldCoder Food is O.K.
15:39 Calinou buying USB drives for installing linux too
15:39 OldCoder He is not "against" commercial maybe
15:39 sapier have a look at minecraft he didn't invent that sort of block games but made lots of money
15:39 VanessaE[L] pier3, ok, clearly not..    but what do you mean by "respawn" then?
15:40 OldCoder Zzz
15:40 Calinou sapier: and? it is fine to take other people's ideas and make money
15:40 thexyz iqualfragile: http://i.imgur.com/xT5Zd.jpg
15:40 ecube ?
15:40 sapier @calinou I don't think so ;-)
15:40 Calinou realize: your mod is a small-ish piece of code for a game. it's not like someone will even ATTEMPT making money with this
15:40 Calinou did anyone attempt making money with one of my mods? nope
15:41 Zeg9 Back
15:41 sapier @calinou requesting an insurance after your house burnt down won't help either ;-)
15:41 pier3 VanessaE[L], when i craft (destroy) something, it reappears few seconds later
15:41 pier3 a block
15:42 sapier noone did this by now ain't a guarantee noone will do in future
15:42 VanessaE[L] pier3, read-only map file?  permissions issue?
15:42 pier3 mmm ... checking
15:42 Zeg9 sapier, on zegaton we use carts and boats that both have models
15:42 sapier I can't even put animals modpack to glpv3 there's already cc-by-sa stuff in there
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15:44 VanessaE[L] *grumble*
15:44 VanessaE[L] bbiaf.
15:45 sapier so probably mobf 2.x will be cc-by-sa completely ... not sure by now
15:45 sapier does anyone use mesh based entities by now in her/his mods?
15:47 thexyz aww, how should I do this?
15:47 thexyz convert default_dirt.png -matte -background "transparent" -scale 17x17\! -rotate 45 +repage -crop "25x25+1+1" -channel A -threshold 99% -scale 24x24\! -channel A -threshold 99% -scale 24x12\! isometric_cube.png
15:47 thexyz (top side)
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15:48 VanessaE[L] ok, one more try...
15:48 thexyz I'd better steal some code from minecraft overviewer
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15:49 VanessaE there we go.  pain in my ass.
15:49 VanessaE Calinou, nVidia 101, ATI 2.
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15:49 ecube oh god what
15:51 VanessaE ?
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15:54 Zeg9 sapier, PilzAdam uses meshes in carts and boats
15:54 Zeg9 also jordan uses meshes in santa and npc
15:55 sapier did anyon try this in client server environment? I know its working singleplayer but looking at minetests code I doubt any mash will be loaded
15:58 sapier Am I plain wrong or didn't anybody try those modes you're mentioning with server on different machine?
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16:05 john_minetest thexyz: There should be dynamic server maps like minecraft has. Player positions and stuff is show. Would be nice.
16:05 john_minetest thexyz: like this one: http://map.minecraftcityville.de/
16:05 moltenbot john_minetest's link: Minecraft Dynamic Map
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16:07 thexyz john_minetest: yeah, that's not too hard to implement
16:07 davidpace Hello Guys
16:07 VanessaE hi david
16:07 Zeg9 Hi
16:08 Zeg9 sapier, sorry for the late answer but on my world, we have both carts and boats and they work fine
16:08 Zeg9 And it is on a server
16:08 sapier do you have same folder structure on client?
16:08 Zeg9 No, but ... yeah it's true I have both mods on singleplayer
16:09 Zeg9 I'll try to remove them and tell you if I still see them on the server.
16:09 sapier my clients trys to load meshes using paths from server ... but of course they aren't there on my client
16:09 davidpace VanessaE, I can't say how much I love your texture pack!
16:09 Zeg9 On the server, the mods are in /opt/something
16:10 VanessaE :)
16:10 Zeg9 on my singleplayer it's in /home/user/.minetest//...
16:10 Exio i should try VanessaE's 512x texture pack
16:10 Exio (in this netbook)
16:10 john_minetest I have only carts on my client and i am on the same server ẃith zeg.
16:11 sapier do you use 0.4.4?
16:11 VanessaE Exio: are you TRYING to kill your netbook? :-)
16:11 Exio yeah >:D
16:11 Zeg9 I use the latest git.
16:11 Zeg9 Without the mods on singleplayer, I still see the models on server.
16:12 Zeg9 Maybe they are in the cache, though.
16:12 sapier if they'd be in cash it'd be fine
16:12 sapier thats what I expected
16:12 PilzAdam sapier, I just tested it on VanessaE's server: I havent installed carts and the models shows up correclty on the server
16:12 VanessaE PilzAdam: *usually* they do :)
16:13 john_minetest The creator of carts mod hasn't got carts installed? ;)
16:13 Zeg9 Yeah, it's true that sometimes models don't show
16:13 VanessaE PilzAdam: sometimes they turn "inside out" for lack of a better word
16:13 Zeg9 but only sometimes
16:13 Zeg9 That, too
16:13 Zeg9 The normals are inverted.
16:13 Zeg9 It's a known bug I think
16:13 john_minetest Oh, one time on markveidemanis' server my player model was upside-down for some time.
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16:13 Zeg9 And sometimes players are invisible.
16:14 sapier ok seems problem is a little bit different .. if you specify a FULL path to a mesh it's gonna work singleplayer only
16:14 PilzAdam john_minetest, I am running a vanilla game
16:15 PilzAdam going to play BF 3 now; bbl
16:17 john_minetest I have got 5 minetest versions installed: minetest 0.4.3, minetest 0.4.4 (without RBA's trees), minetest 0.4.4 with trees (older build) , minetest 0.4.4 with Jeija's server menu and Zeg9's attatchment fix, 0.4.4 with the new mese
16:17 Zeg9 sapier: why would you specify full path to a mesh??
16:17 sapier because it didn't work with name ... probably this was another bug
16:18 sapier bug in my mod of course
16:19 thexyz http://ompldr.org/vZ3Z1dQ
16:19 sapier but it's a funny way to make minetest open arbitrary files on clients machine
16:19 sfan5 can i use code:blocks with minetest?
16:20 sapier @sfan5: why not?
16:21 sfan5 i just don't know how..
16:21 Jordach sfan5, for modifying .cpp or .lua?
16:21 sapier I don't think it depends on minetest what IDE you want to use
16:22 sfan5 Jordach: both
16:22 sapier I recommend eclipse for both ... at least on windows
16:22 Jordach code::blocks does support lua to my knowlegde
16:22 thexyz yeah, eclipse works pretty fine
16:22 sapier at least on linux eclipse is a little bit slow
16:22 thexyz tried it once
16:23 sapier there are lua as well as c++ additions for eclipse ldt and cdt
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16:25 sfan5 ...
16:25 sfan5 cmake can generate a project file for you
16:25 sfan5 (for code::blocks
16:25 sfan5 )
16:26 VanessaE hey neko
16:27 Calinou <PilzAdam> going to play BF 3 now; bbl
16:27 Calinou oh god, no
16:27 Calinou now we know pilzadam plays minecraft too
16:27 davidpace ?
16:27 ecube ?
16:27 Calinou all BF3 players play minecraft, fact
16:27 davidpace BF 3?
16:27 Jordach would it be fair if we laughed at you for what games you play?
16:28 NekoGloop BattleField3
16:28 davidpace What is BF3?
16:28 ecube No, I'm just saying, what's... nvm
16:28 davidpace ph
16:28 ecube what's bf3
16:28 ecube yes, neko answered it
16:28 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnWDB1vfFhA
16:28 davidpace Moltenbot hates you
16:29 NekoGloop I know.
16:29 NekoGloop I'm blacklisted.
16:29 Calinou BF3 is african word for "be an idiot on the forums, be banned from any EA game)
16:29 Calinou s/)/"
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16:30 Jordach Calinou, PilzAdam does not use the BF3 forums
16:30 Jordach also; its on xbox360
16:31 ecube Calinou: not all bf3 players play minecraft
16:31 thexyz http://ompldr.org/vZ3Z1eQ, will publish script in a moment
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16:32 thexyz seems the alpha layer is fucked up =(
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16:33 NekoGloop Fact: xbox is shit
16:33 john_minetest btw, freenode is for open source projects. why is minecraft on freenode?
16:34 NekoGloop john_minetest: A) it's an off-topic channel, officially. B) while source isnt published, people fuck with it anyway and they dont care.
16:36 ecube john_minetest: that's not really true
16:36 ecube freenode is open source, but not necessarily for open source projects
16:37 john_minetest As of 2010, it was the largest free and open source software-focused IRC network, [...]
16:37 john_minetest http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenode
16:37 moltenbot john_minetest's link: Freenode - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
16:38 john_minetest or do they mean that it is open source AND software foculed?
16:38 NekoGloop john_minetest: Read what e cube said.
16:38 ecube john_minetest: open source AND software focused
16:40 john_minetest In the german article it is (translated): "Freenode's aim is to offer a free and stable platform for the free software community."
16:41 ecube that's wikipedia
16:41 ecube there's nothing about it in the channel guidelines http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml
16:41 moltenbot ecube's link: freenode philosophy: channel guidelines
16:42 ecube therefore, people can create channels that aren't about free software
16:43 thexyz Unlawful activities and their related support activities are considered off-topic, as are inappropriate advertising, heavy media file trading, gaming and proprietary game software modding, warez, hax0r activity, porn and various forms of antisocial behavior, including (but not limited to) political, racial, ethnic, religious or gender-related invective. Off-topic activity may result in users being barred from the network.
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16:44 thexyz http://freenode.net/policy.shtml
16:44 moltenbot thexyz's link: freenode: Policies
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16:45 john_minetest "IRC is a low-bandwidth method of communication, in comparison with physical presence." Lol, how much bandwidth does physical presece use?
16:46 sapier1 I'm not quite sure what star trek transporter data calculation was but a huuuuuuge amount of data :-)
16:46 ecube john_minetest: more than freenode uses
16:46 john_minetest :D
16:48 VanessaE bbl
16:52 Jordach thexyz, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/378
16:52 moltenbot Jordach's link: Cave gen fixes. by RealBadAngel ? Pull Request #378 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
16:52 thexyz care to explain this part?
16:52 thexyz -    s16 route_y_max = -of.Y + stone_surface_max_y + max_tunnel_diameter/2 + 7;
16:52 thexyz +    s16 route_y_max = -of.Y + stone_surface_max_y;
16:53 Jordach https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest/commit/2d3bead500710f68ccb1b677218b9c75946f1458#L0R1740
16:53 moltenbot Jordach's link: Fixes to cave generation. ?  2d3bead ? RealBadAngel/minetest ? GitHub
16:57 thexyz Jordach: no, the one I posted
16:57 Jordach dunno, compile and see
16:57 thexyz btw, can somebody think of name for isometric mapgen repo?
16:57 Jordach Mined#
16:57 Jordach Mine2d
16:58 Jordach VoxMap
17:01 thexyz =(
17:01 Zeg9 IsoGEn
17:02 Zeg9 People will think it's something for CDs lol
17:02 iqualfragile thexyz: looks better, but what was wrong?
17:03 thexyz iqualfragile: i mixed up x and z
17:03 thexyz in getBlockAsInteger
17:06 iqualfragile ok
17:07 iqualfragile RealBadAngel: not bad, not bad at all
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17:07 jojoa1997 how do you know when a pull request is added
17:10 jojoa1997 anyone
17:10 jojoa1997 ?
17:11 Zeg9 Just "watch" the repository on github
17:12 Jeija http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUzyw1a7Ghs&amp;hd=1 << Proof of concept for water shaders (just waves)
17:12 moltenbot Jeija's link: Minetest Water Shaders - Proof of Concept - YouTube
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17:14 iqualfragile Jeija: how do you find out wich level the water has?
17:14 jojoa1997 you mean height
17:14 iqualfragile yeah
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17:15 jojoa1997 isnt water always at 0
17:16 jojoa1997 Jeija: "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUzyw1a7Ghs&amp;hd=1 << Proof of concept for water shaders (just waves)" how did you do this it is AMAZING
17:16 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Minetest Water Shaders - Proof of Concept - YouTube
17:16 Jeija that's the trick: pos.y -= 3 + sin(pos.z/wavelength+time*wavespeed*wavelength) * waveheight;
17:17 Zeg9 Jeija, great !
17:17 Jeija and time is the float of timeofday
17:17 Jeija which means that using these shaders needs minor changes to the source code
17:17 jojoa1997 how much lag does this add
17:17 jojoa1997 or is it little
17:17 Jeija no lag for me, but I don't know how it performs on other pcs
17:18 Jeija gtg, bbl
17:18 Zeg9 It shouldn't lag that much
17:18 Zeg9 If you already use shaders, it probably won't change
17:19 jojoa1997 ok that is good
17:19 jojoa1997 gtg
17:21 babyface1031 anyone know how to use the barn to bread animals in the animal mod?
17:22 sapier1 put leaves in
17:23 sapier1 don't use 1.9.5 but 1.9.6 barn crashes in 1.9.5
17:23 babyface1031 i am useing the one on oldcoders server
17:24 sapier1 ok then its only put leaves in and have 2 animals of correct type nearby
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17:24 Kacey hello
17:27 Kacey anyone on?
17:28 * kizeren is hiding.....
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17:30 davidpace Back!
17:30 davidpace Hi Kacey
17:30 davidpace Hi kizeren
17:30 Kacey hi\
17:31 * Kacey hands davidpace a cookie
17:31 kizeren hi davidpace
17:31 davidpace Ooooo Thanks
17:31 * sokomine hopes to get a cookie as well :-)
17:31 * davidpace muches on the cookie
17:31 * sokomine looks hungry
17:32 * davidpace hands sokomine leftovers ;)
17:32 * Kacey give sokomine a cookie
17:32 * sokomine thanks kacey and eats the cookie
17:32 Kacey yw
17:32 sokomine davidpace: there wheren't many leftovers :)
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17:33 davidpace No, not a lot. But still better then nothing :0
17:33 davidpace Hi mauvebic
17:33 mauvebic howdy
17:33 * Kacey gives mauvebic a cookie
17:34 mauvebic ugh stupid upstairs neighbour
17:34 mauvebic i try to be sympathetic about the whole tourrets thing, but could you please not fucking move a couch at 3am lol
17:34 Kacey lol
17:35 mauvebic every other day sounds like he's got a pony up there :/ lol
17:35 Kacey lol
17:35 Jordach is it "little"?
17:35 mauvebic judging from the sound of it, no lol
17:36 Kacey i like little ponies
17:36 davidpace I like pizza
17:36 mauvebic tried horse meat once, was unimpressed lol
17:36 davidpace lol
17:36 Kacey i want to eat a guinea pig
17:37 davidpace ~~~~~lol~~~~~~~ Someone swimming
17:37 mauvebic sharkmeat is hella expensive and tastes almosts like fishticks lol
17:37 mauvebic (i probably wasn't holding it right)
17:37 davidpace .______________.
17:37 davidpace Whale
17:37 iqualfragile hmm… we need bossmobs in minetest
17:37 Kacey (:) cookie fail
17:38 mauvebic bossmobs?
17:38 iqualfragile yeah, bossmobs
17:38 mauvebic if theyre anything like my bosses, they'll layabout the server all day drinking coffee and "delegating" lol
17:39 iqualfragile …
17:39 kizeren heh first ban on my server.
17:39 sapier1 it's difficult to create reasonable movement for mobs larger that 1 block :-)
17:39 mauvebic we could even get the douchebag from office space as an NPC
17:40 iqualfragile it could just be fast
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17:40 iqualfragile and deadly
17:40 davidpace They can fire you
17:40 davidpace Literally
17:40 mauvebic what is a bossmob? i dont think its what im thinking
17:40 Kacey like DMs?
17:40 iqualfragile or an nest wich spawns  alot of scorpions
17:41 sapier1 @iqualfragile that'd be easy
17:41 sapier1 a nest doesn't have to move :-)
17:41 davidpace Molten bt, don't fail me now: http://www.youtube.com/user/MinetestCommunity?feature=mhee
17:41 moltenbot davidpace's link: MinetestCommunity - YouTube
17:41 davidpace HAHA!
17:42 davidpace Just a little channel I run
17:43 davidpace Where'd everyone go? O.o
17:43 Jordach mauvebic, i worked out how to make asteroids
17:43 * Kacey hides behind a pole
17:44 Obiewan1111 http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEz5oD_Pa_sbj01Ms837GMQ?feature=mhee
17:44 moltenbot Obiewan1111's link: Minetest GamingVids - YouTube
17:44 Obiewan1111 That's the channel my Quick Build Challenges will be uploaded to.
17:44 davidpace Why don't you upload the video mod review you did?
17:45 mauvebic asteroids? how :-)
17:45 * davidpace finds Kacey and asks why she was hiding?
17:45 Jordach see pm
17:45 Kacey im a guy XD
17:45 sokomine sapier: yes. the mt-world is not very cow-friendly :-) they need larger plains
17:45 Obiewan1111 It wasn't that good. It didn't come out good enough.
17:45 davidpace *he :-)
17:45 Kacey lol
17:46 Kacey im hiding because i want to
17:46 davidpace Why the name Kacey, is that your real name?
17:46 Kacey no but everyone knows me by my real name and Kacey
17:46 davidpace Obiwan1111. Then make it again
17:46 sapier1 I've recently created a spawner spawning cows only on  a little bit more flat lands ... but doesn't see, to worl as expected :-) I'll have to do some debuging prior 2.0 for this to work
17:47 Obiewan1111 I don't want to.. It's your idea, and I don't want to jump on it.
17:47 davidpace MY IDEA?
17:47 davidpace LOL
17:47 sapier1 btw 1.9.6 looks quite promising in scope of performance I'd be glad if anyone could test too and tell me if I'm wrong :)
17:47 Obiewan1111 Well, you did them.
17:47 davidpace You said you'd do them thw right way
17:47 davidpace *them
17:47 sokomine cows will get even more rare then :-(
17:47 Obiewan1111 No, not your idea for me to do them. -.-
17:48 davidpace Well, i thought technically they aren't good ennough
17:48 Obiewan1111 Your idea for you to start them.
17:48 davidpace Yep
17:48 davidpace But you said you'd do them
17:48 davidpace Why arent you
17:48 sokomine can you do something about their model/texture? i saw a cow from above and the texture led to a strange pattern. black/white cows and fully brown cows would be nice as well :-)
17:48 Obiewan1111 I don't have the time.
17:48 davidpace So why'd you say you'd do them
17:48 sapier1 @sokomine yes they will :-/ but having a cow stand on top of a single block with legs before and after solid ground is wiered too
17:48 Obiewan1111 Plus I'm doing my Minetest Quick Build Challenge.
17:49 davidpace And I can't do them, because I'm not doing them "Good" enough
17:49 Obiewan1111 Because I had the time then.
17:49 sokomine sapier: hard to tell. mapgen got so slow in my testworld that few things work there :-(
17:49 davidpace And why didn't you do them then>
17:49 Obiewan1111 Because when it's Christmas, I spend more time with my family.
17:49 Kacey afk
17:50 sapier1 hmm I don't know if black would look better .. but I'm not very good at creating textures
17:50 sokomine sapier: yes it is :-) as i said: not very cow-friendly environemnt. catch someone who does a goat :-) they can jump high and enjoy steep mountains
17:50 sokomine me neither :-(
17:50 davidpace So why don't you say on the forums that you're quitting the mod reviews
17:51 babyface1031 sapier1: what can you do with the feathers and raw meat
17:51 Obiewan1111 Because no-one cared anyway.
17:51 Obiewan1111 Apart from one person.
17:51 sapier1 in mobf nothing by now
17:51 davidpace I did, jojoa does, Aqua does
17:51 davidpace Casimir does
17:51 Obiewan1111 Then I haven't looked at the post for a bit then. :/
17:51 sapier1 they're tought to be used by other mods
17:52 sapier1 1.9.x doesn't have raw meat anymore but lamb beef chicken ...
17:52 babyface1031 ok
17:52 davidpace Regardless Obiewan1111, you have to tell them you can't do the mod reviews
17:52 babyface1031 idk what version we have on the server
17:53 davidpace babyface1031, can I have settime privs? It's really annoying when I try to build something in the night.
17:54 davidpace If not, okay
17:55 iqualfragile babyface1031: or just install some kind of beds mod
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17:56 babyface1031 we have 2 bed mods davidpace
17:56 davidpace Sorry, I don't know you that well. Oooo Okay! Could you add the crafting guide?
17:56 davidpace *server not you
17:58 babyface1031 i can get you the link to the 2 mods i think the craft guide is in the forum
17:59 davidpace Okay..
17:59 babyface1031 davidpace: i pm you the links
17:59 davidpace Okay
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18:08 thexyz here it is https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia
18:08 moltenbot thexyz's link: xyzz/onomatopoeia ? GitHub
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18:12 Zeg9 thexyz: Trying...
18:12 thexyz nah, it's more like PoC now
18:13 Zeg9 thexyz http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/11732
18:13 moltenbot Zeg9's link: Pastebit, beep beep beep
18:15 thexyz Zeg9: try pasting this function https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/util/minetestmapper.py#L91 into your util.py
18:15 moltenbot thexyz's link: minetest/util/minetestmapper.py at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
18:15 thexyz then tell me if it works
18:16 Zeg9 It works
18:16 Zeg9 How much time does it take?
18:16 Zeg9 the map.sqlite is 128MB
18:16 thexyz it's DAMN SLOW
18:16 Zeg9 oh, forget that - it's done
18:16 thexyz ATM it only generates ~100 blocks
18:17 thexyz like I said, it's PoC
18:17 Zeg9 How do I add mods?
18:17 thexyz can you upload your map?
18:17 Zeg9 The map.sqlite or .png?
18:17 thexyz .png one
18:17 thexyz (just curious)
18:18 Zeg9 It misses the stonesquare from moreblocks so it doesn't look well
18:18 thexyz see mapper.py
18:18 thexyz it contains textures dictionary
18:18 Zeg9 Oh, I see
18:19 thexyz well, adding wallmounted/facedir nodes would definetly be fun
18:19 thexyz same for nodebox ones
18:19 Zeg9 http://ompldr.org/vZ3Z3NQ
18:19 Zeg9 I'll make one with the stonesqaure now
18:19 Zeg9 stonesquare*
18:20 thexyz huh
18:20 thexyz well, I'll try to add google maps api to it
18:20 Zeg9 I guess the invisible part is desert
18:23 Zeg9 Regenerating with desert sand, stonesquare and tree top texture
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18:27 Zeg9 Great job thexyz. Now you still need support for fencelike, raillike, nodebox, ... Good luck !
18:27 Zeg9 ...And loading lua mods
18:30 Zeg9 I could try to load blocks from lua somehow, thexyz
18:31 thexyz that's not a big problem, the big one is about nodeboxes
18:31 Zeg9 Yeah
18:32 thexyz but any contribution is welcome
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18:33 thexyz we can try to make minetest generate blocks for us and then use them
18:33 thexyz like cornernote's gamewiki did
18:34 Obiewan1111 Come on Moltenbot.. https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&amp;tbo=d&amp;sclient=psy-ab&amp;q=Minetest+is+an+amazing+game!&amp;oq=Minetest+is+an+amazing+game!&amp;gs_l=hp.3...1194.9918.0.11002.30.24.1.0.0.0.1575.16453.4-7j9j5j2j1.24.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.fuVdEBaHMbo&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.d2k&fp=6a1904ffca346b5f&bpcl=40096503&biw=1228&bih=714
18:34 moltenbot Obiewan1111's link: Google
18:34 Obiewan1111 -.-
18:34 jin_xi wtf is this shit
18:34 mauvebic looks like simcity :-)
18:35 mauvebic how long would it take to run on a 10Kx10K grid?
18:36 Zeg9 mauvebic, it took like 1 or 2 minutes to make that: http://ompldr.org/vZ3Z3Yw
18:38 mauvebic ill try to get my whole map with it later today, curious to see what my giant mountain looks like in isometricx
18:38 mauvebic *isometric
18:41 iqualfragile https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=xx-pirate&amp;q=minetest+is+awsome
18:42 davidpace Hehe
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18:50 sokomine looks good :-) open transport tycoon seems to use a similar worldview irrc? only problem is that that isometric image in itshelf is far too big. took me some time to download
18:50 sokomine would be very nice for towns though
18:51 PilzAdam back
18:51 mauvebic you can compress with gimp
18:51 PilzAdam Calinou, I dont play MC
18:51 john_minetest thexyz: the mapper doesn'T work for me.
18:51 mauvebic id rather have a HQ local copy and GIMP it afterwards
18:51 thexyz poor you
18:51 john_minetest thexyz: what i got in console output: http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/11733
18:51 moltenbot john_minetest's link: Pastebit, beep beep beep
18:51 thexyz ok, I'll commit the fix right now
18:52 thexyz done, redownload
18:52 john_minetest thx
18:52 thexyz (don't forget to upload your map.png ^^)
18:53 john_minetest of course i will upload ^^
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19:03 john_minetest thexyz: desert sand isn't shown.
19:04 thexyz it's PoC, remember?
19:04 thexyz == proof of concept
19:06 Jordach did you mean: Piece of Crap?
19:06 Calinou lol
19:07 john_minetest It was just a suggestion how to make it better.
19:07 Calinou Jordach: I thought it was that :P
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19:07 thexyz Jordach: same thing
19:07 john_minetest Texture seems to be there.
19:07 thexyz as for now it's piece of crap, for sure
19:07 john_minetest but it is not shown
19:07 thexyz john_minetest: see mapper.py
19:07 thexyz add your node in similar way
19:07 john_minetest oh, okay
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19:11 PilzAdam thexyz, what dependencies does your mappger have?
19:11 PilzAdam *mapper
19:11 thexyz same as default one
19:12 PilzAdam ImportError: No module named numpy
19:12 john_minetest PilzAdam: you have to install python-numpy
19:12 john_minetest *python2-numpy
19:13 PilzAdam so there are more dependencies than the default mapper
19:14 john_minetest thexyz: a new error I got: http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/11734
19:14 moltenbot john_minetest's link: Pastebit, beep beep beep
19:14 john_minetest maybe it doesn't like underscore
19:14 thexyz pastebin full mapper.py
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19:15 Kacey back
19:15 john_minetest oh. i think i found what i made wrong.
19:15 davidpace Hello Kacey
19:15 john_minetest my editor uses different tabulator sizes.
19:15 Kacey lol mini bikes are fun
19:16 babyface1031 anyone know thw irc chat rooms for oldcoders servers
19:16 kizeren #<gamename> I thought
19:19 john_minetest thexyz: Tabulators didn't do it: http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/11735
19:19 moltenbot john_minetest's link: Pastebit, beep beep beep
19:19 mauvebic updated https://sites.google.com/site/mauvemods/home/nodex :-)
19:19 moltenbot mauvebic's link: nodex - mauvemods
19:19 john_minetest babyface1031: ##mtzegaton
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19:20 john_minetest babyface1031: that's the only one i know
19:20 john_minetest Hello VanessaE
19:20 babyface1031 ok ty
19:20 VanessaE hey
19:20 thexyz john_minetest: you forgot ,
19:20 PilzAdam thexyz, works fine now
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19:24 john_minetest thexyz: oh, thx
19:24 davidpace Lunch Break AFK ;-)
19:25 * PilzAdam added water, sand and desert sand/stone
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19:26 mauvebic his or yours repo?
19:26 PilzAdam only loca
19:26 PilzAdam *local
19:27 PilzAdam thexyz, the transparency of the water isnt handled correctly, the nodes under water should be drawn too
19:27 thexyz there's no transparency at all
19:27 thexyz see leaves
19:28 davidpace back with  a hotdog
19:30 PilzAdam I removed the transperancy in the textures now
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19:32 john_minetest lol, the map takes hours to upload
19:32 mauvebic isometric or sqlite? lol
19:33 john_minetest isometric
19:33 john_minetest 0_o
19:33 mauvebic thank god ompldr has no limits lol
19:34 mauvebic though what really sucks: uploading a large file...DB lock lol
19:34 PilzAdam http://www.zimg.eu/i/2298557033
19:34 john_minetest sqlite map: 5.6MB. isometric map: 11.0MB ... WUT?
19:34 mauvebic wtf
19:34 mauvebic lol
19:35 mauvebic 300mb sqlite =(moreorless)= 600mb iso lol
19:36 mauvebic next step -> to cpp lol
19:36 Kacey back and hello all
19:36 marktraceur sapier1: Re GFDL, I don't mind not having sound, so I can strip out non-compatible media if it's otherwise relicensable
19:36 marktraceur sapier1: CC-BY-SA isn't used for software for good reason
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19:38 mauvebic lol enough w/ the license talk
19:39 john_minetest my internet connection is so crappy. still uploading...
19:40 marktraceur mauvebic: Licensing is an important part of free software development, you'll have to bear with us :)
19:43 mauvebic i know :-)
19:43 mauvebic but bringing it up every day, prodding others about their choices rather than leading by example...i dont think it helps :/
19:44 mauvebic whats the point of talking about licenses every day if you dont write any mods?
19:44 sapier1 @marktraceur As of what I have learned from our discussion you're not interested in "freedom" at all but only in enforcing your own personal license preference. I'm gonna decide what license fits best on my own. If this won't match your obsession to gplv3 it's not my fault.
19:44 marktraceur mauvebic: That's a good question, but I'm afraid you're asking the wrong person
19:45 marktraceur sapier1: OK, thanks! I'd at least implore you to relicense freely yourself, but you may not choose to do that either. I wish yo luck.
19:46 sapier1 sorry but i don't understand what you wanna tell me I'm not native english speaker ;-)
19:48 sapier1 I've decided to switch to non modified license already out there for 2.x but I haven't decided which one.
19:48 mauvebic marktraceur who should i be asking?
19:53 sapier1 I wonder why marktraceur is so interested in mobf ... there ain't lots of ppl out there really using it ... but lots of ppl (at least loud ones) complaining about it beeing to slow
19:56 marktraceur mauvebic: Someone who doesn't write mods
19:56 mauvebic i doubt its what you think, there are a dozen mob pods to chose from
19:56 mauvebic *mob mods
19:56 mauvebic marktraceur where do you post 'em?
19:56 sapier1 I know that's why I even less understand his interest in mobf
19:56 marktraceur sapier1: Maybe I am thinking this is the wrong thing--I remember finding some animals mod that said "oi, go use sapier's mod", and I did, and it wasn't free so I left
19:57 sapier1 i don't wana start a discussion about "freedom" again
19:58 marktraceur sapier1: That's fine--but do you know about other mob mods?
19:58 mauvebic there are varying degrees of free anyways
19:59 mauvebic lots of businesses use the term free but you end up spending money
19:59 marktraceur mauvebic: We said we wouldn't get into it, and I don't intend to
19:59 sapier1 yes I've been looking at them most of them did some things better some things worse none did implement even half of features mobf does support
19:59 mauvebic mob war instead ok lol
20:00 PilzAdam thexyz, https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia/pull/1
20:00 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Support all full blocks of default mod and delete the unused textures by PilzAdam ? Pull Request #1 ? xyzz/onomatopoeia ? GitHub
20:01 marktraceur sapier1: Well, then that makes sense why I'd ask about yours :)
20:01 thexyz PilzAdam: nice, but can you use 4 spaces instead of 3 and don't replace >map = Map(".")
20:01 mauvebic most mobs aren't slow, its what people do w/ them that makes it slow
20:02 PilzAdam thexyz, oh, didnt noticed that
20:02 PilzAdam lemme fix that
20:02 marktraceur I think we all understand each other now, so let's leave it at that :)
20:03 davidpace Back
20:03 davidpace What'd I miss? O_o
20:04 mauvebic anyone want to make a car?
20:04 marktraceur sapier1: If you want advice about a license, I'm happy to help. You can take my advice with a grain of salt if necessary, but I pride myself on being able to talk about anything logically
20:04 PilzAdam thexyz, fixed
20:05 davidpace mauvebic, you're to late, someone already did look: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;safe=active&amp;q=car&amp;btnK=&amp;qscrl=1&amp;um=1&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;tbm=isch&amp;source=og&amp;sa=N&amp;tab=wi&amp;ei=V57gUIbIB8jsqwHG0IDYAg&amp;biw=1920&amp;bih=979&amp;sei=XZ7gUOeEKciqqgGB2oAw
20:05 davidpace :-)
20:05 thexyz PilzAdam: thanks, merged
20:06 mauvebic davidpace http://goo.gl/zyojc
20:06 davidpace What is this?
20:06 davidpace Oh Lol
20:07 mauvebic talking bout an MT car
20:07 mauvebic he's got good roads: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=60525#p60525
20:07 moltenbot mauvebic's link: [Mod] Create modern cities: Asphalt and more [1.0] [streets] (Page 2) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
20:07 mauvebic just needs a car
20:07 davidpace Lol ok
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20:12 sapier1 @marktraceur if I'm gonna release with any license allowing completely free usage I demand a license not allowing anyone to relicense my code with less rights. Do you know of any license fitting this?
20:13 marktraceur sapier1: Copyleft is the only way to do it. Your few options so far have been right, as is CCBYSA, but they're not the dominant choices for copyleft....
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20:13 Kacey hello
20:13 VanessaE hi kacey
20:14 markveidemanis hi
20:14 Kacey ooh hai v
20:14 markveidemanis Kacey;...
20:14 markveidemanis Guess  What!
20:14 Kacey waht
20:14 Kacey what*
20:14 mauvebic whats wrong with ccbysa?
20:14 markveidemanis Oldcoder is hosting my server for a test!
20:14 Kacey cool
20:14 markveidemanis and its actually fast!
20:14 markveidemanis minetest.org:30010
20:14 Kacey M13 owes me a server still
20:15 markveidemanis haha
20:15 markveidemanis join the server plz
20:15 mauvebic new bio http://goo.gl/Xqi6P
20:15 moltenbot mauvebic's link: Mauvebic - mauvemods
20:15 Kacey he does he shut down my other server
20:15 sapier1 what are you talking about? gpl doesn't fir better to lua mods
20:15 markveidemanis and the corresponding IRC channel: ##mtmarktwain
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20:15 M13 what do I owe you?
20:15 M13 a Server
20:16 Kacey lol jk i can make one but i need a vps...
20:16 M13 host1free
20:16 markveidemanis i have a server on a VPS...
20:16 M13 My servers run "o.k." on 2 host1free vps's
20:16 markveidemanis a real fast one
20:16 Kacey link?
20:17 markveidemanis my server speed is sccelent
20:17 markveidemanis eccenent
20:17 markveidemanis you know...
20:17 john_minetest RBA's trees: http://ompldr.org/vZ3Z4eQ/map.png
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