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00:00 ADFENO Wow.
00:00 Kacey ya
00:00 Kacey might abandon the display part and just leave it the way it was
00:08 * PilzAdam is checking terasology's development state
00:08 PilzAdam they have changed the mouse controls so digging is not leftclick and placing blocks is rightclick
00:09 PilzAdam you can jump 2 blocks high
00:10 PilzAdam and you can really throw items with Q; holding it will throw them further and they have nice collisions
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00:11 kaeza good night
00:11 kaeza hello
00:12 Kacey hello kaeza
00:13 Kacey i got the decoder done
00:13 kaeza hey Kacey
00:13 kaeza goos
00:13 kaeza good*
00:13 Kacey ya
00:13 kaeza screenies?
00:13 Kacey now im going to make an 8-bit and possibly a 16-bit
00:14 kaeza yay! more sbi's!
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00:14 Kacey lol my thoughts exactly
00:15 Kacey but later because i must go eat dinner
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00:15 kaeza hey Jakssoul
00:16 Jakssoul Hey, kaeza.
00:16 Jakssoul I have like, 30 GBA games on that emulator. xD
00:16 Jakssoul It's pretty great.
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00:17 Jakssoul Well, 21 games. Still.
00:17 Jakssoul I wish I could get the PCSX2 emulator to work. Can't figure that out though.
00:18 ADFENO Jakssoul: PCSX2 is really hard to get working.
00:18 Jakssoul I figured. Haha, I guess I will just have to use VBA. >_> Better than nothing.
00:19 ADFENO I remember the day when I used Windows 7 three years ago, with a top processor which I don't know the name, and 4 GB of RAM, and it was still too slow.
00:20 Jakssoul Oh holy crap,.
00:20 ADFENO I think Mednafen is way better.
00:20 Jakssoul Yeah, this thing won't do that then.
00:20 Jakssoul Mednafen didn't work when I installed it.
00:20 ADFENO Why not?
00:20 Jakssoul I do  not know.
00:21 Jakssoul I'm going to reinstall it later, I suppose.
00:21 ADFENO It emulates GBA games just fine.
00:21 Jakssoul I already have VBA.
00:21 ADFENO :D
00:21 Jakssoul Don't need it if that's all it does.
00:22 Jakssoul I got Warzone, bunches of GBA games, Nethack, blah blah, any other recommendations?
00:22 ADFENO Well... It emulates GB, WSW, PCE, NES, GBC, GBA, NGP, TB-GFX and some others I can't even remember.
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00:23 Jakssoul Are there ANY decent offline FPS? I have AssaultCube, and even just the Bot team deathmathches are fun.
00:24 ADFENO Hm... I don't play FPSers too much, I can't help you this time.
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00:25 OldCoder NEWS: I have a backup of Europe MT world that is three weeks old. The loss of any work is regrettable but the world itself will continue. And I will try to reach Anunakki so that the latest version can be retrieved.
00:25 VanessaE Jakssoul: what about Open Arena?  it's old, but still fun at times.
00:26 OldCoder NEWS: I am behind on MT projects for personal reasons. However, everything is planned to continue.
00:26 VanessaE personal reasons are more important than Minetest.
00:26 VanessaE Take care of yourself first.
00:26 OldCoder VanessaE, thank you. Regardless, I am here for anybody who wishes to chat.
00:27 Jakssoul Or free Linux horror games? (Or even WINE compatible for that matter)
00:27 OldCoder And small changes should resume tonight.
00:27 Jakssoul 'Cause Slender isn't really. :(
00:27 OldCoder Jakssoul, WINE works well for slightly older games
00:27 ADFENO DOSBox for old school games is good too.
00:27 Jakssoul I have DOSBox.
00:28 Jakssoul Sadly, I couldn't figure out Daggerfall,
00:28 Jakssoul (To work on it)
00:28 * marktraceur wonders why this is happening in this channel
00:28 ADFENO Have you successfully used DOSBox at least one time? Or is this your first time?
00:29 Jakssoul I have used it.
00:29 Jakssoul To play... one second.
00:29 Jakssoul ANGBAND.
00:29 Jakssoul xD Somebody recommended that yesterday.
00:29 Jakssoul I can't stand it.
00:29 ADFENO Hm...
00:30 Jakssoul Is DaggerFall the same process?
00:30 ADFENO Basicly, if you have the installation CD/image...
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00:31 Jakssoul Bethesda gives the game away for free.
00:31 ADFENO You need to mount it, and also, mount a folder to make it your main virtual hard drive.
00:31 Jakssoul Already compiled.
00:31 Jakssoul Already did that.
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00:31 ADFENO What does DOSBox, or the game, says? Any errors?
00:32 Jakssoul Hang on.
00:32 Jakssoul OH CRAP. I remember what it was now. Archive Manager wouldn't extract it.
00:32 Jakssoul Then I uninstalled Archive Manager. Guess what? It's still on my computer.
00:32 Jakssoul Like.. what???
00:33 ADFENO So the issue isn't related with the game or with DOSBox.
00:33 Jakssoul Right.
00:33 kaeza Jakssoul: have you tried extracting from command line?
00:34 Jakssoul kaeza, I told you I didn't know how. I have to redownload it, so give me a few minutes.
00:34 ADFENO In which format have you downloaded the game. Is it a RAR file? An EXE file?
00:34 kaeza Jakssoul: "unzip <archivename>" :)
00:34 Jakssoul It was .zip, from Bethesda.
00:35 ADFENO Hm... Then it was corrupted, ZIP files should be extracted with no problems under GNU+Linux operating systems.
00:36 Jakssoul Archive Manager gives me issues all the time.
00:36 kaeza ADFENO: IDK why but I had several archives not opening on Lin. Specially on the OLPC
00:36 kaeza ADFENO: I guess it's either a bug in `unzip' or in `file-roller'
00:37 ADFENO Hm... It could be their versions though.
00:37 Jakssoul I've got a good 30 minute wait for it to redownload.
00:37 Jakssoul ADFENO, I doubt it.
00:37 Jakssoul This is Bethesda we're talking about.
00:37 kaeza ADFENO and I recently DLded a Win version of MT for testing on Wine and had similar problems
00:38 ADFENO Strange, I can extract ZIP files just well under a more outdated distribution than the latest Ubuntu. :D
00:39 Jakssoul I can extract plenty fine, but it randomly picks some not to.
00:39 Jakssoul Anyway, Bethesda just needs to offer MW for free.
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00:41 ADFENO Hahaha... Free software (as free bear) will always be the same, everyone likes them, but no one cares on what limitations they have.
00:41 ADFENO *as free beer)*
00:43 Jakssoul *sighs* They're not making me pay for it.
00:43 Jakssoul Do you think I care what limitations come with me?
00:43 Jakssoul it*
00:44 ADFENO This is something I can't answer. You have to discover it by yourself.
00:44 Jakssoul I don't care.
00:44 Jakssoul There's no way they'd release it as in freedom, so I'll be happy with not having to pay.
00:44 Jakssoul Or, would you prefer they keep their limitations AND charge $20?
00:44 VanessaE bbiab, food time.
00:47 ADFENO Well... No, but, the copyright of the game itself is still held by the organization, and as far as I know, one must download it from the organization's website to use it under legal conditions.
00:47 Jakssoul Also, who cares about legal conditions? Haha.
00:48 Jakssoul thepiratebay.se is simply proof to that.
00:49 ADFENO Well, The Pirate Bay has no direct involvement on what the users do with it.
00:49 ruskie open source/free software still rely on the legal stuff
00:49 Jakssoul My point is, ADFENO, we have to make do with what we can.
00:50 Jakssoul I agree with you that it's not the best situation.
00:50 ADFENO :D Agree.
00:50 Jakssoul Free software really is ideal, but some people aren't okay with the idea. For example, 99% of software developers.
00:50 ADFENO :D
00:51 Jakssoul Daggerfall is taking forever.. ughh!
00:54 Jakssoul 32KB per sec.
00:54 Jakssoul Gosh.
00:54 ADFENO If you don't mind. I'd like to present another example: Gobblin.se, it's a site where you can upload images, music and video. If you look for the user Yamirlobo, you can notice his uploads are mainly copyrighted by someone else. Or the Gobblin.se maintainers haven't received reports about it, or they aren't responsible for user uploaded content after all.
00:54 Jakssoul Lost internet. Have to restart download. NOOOO!
00:55 Jakssoul ADFENO, what's your point?
00:57 Jakssoul THE NEW SKYRIM ADDON LETS YOU RIDE DRAGONS?
00:57 Jakssoul I am going to kill my Fiance.
00:57 ADFENO Even if someone says something can be acquired by some specific way, the copyright license for it may not allow this, or can indeed allow downloading, but just from allowed sites.
00:59 ADFENO I know the main subject is software, but for me, this example fits very well.
01:01 Jakssoul I dont see a point.
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01:19 VanessaE ah what a satisfying meal every time.  cook and drain(2 pkgs ramen + 1 can cooked chicken), add 1/2c sour cream + ramen flavor packets, stir and orgasm.
01:19 NakedFury spicy noodles here. spicier than I expected them
01:20 PilzAdam VanessaE, btw: what do you think of the aux1 to fast fly patch?
01:21 PilzAdam s/of/about
01:21 VanessaE which key is aux1 again?  I forget
01:21 PilzAdam E
01:21 PilzAdam its already in upstream
01:22 VanessaE doesn't seem to have any effect for me, but I use "use = climb down"
01:22 VanessaE so I guess that overrides the other
01:22 PilzAdam yea, doesnt have any effect in that
01:23 VanessaE now, if you were to say, swap with Shift when that checkbox is set, I could see that being very useful
01:23 VanessaE shift = go fast, E = descend when that checkbox is set
01:23 PilzAdam well, shif is sneak
01:23 VanessaE else E = fast, shift=descend
01:23 VanessaE er right
01:23 VanessaE not shift...whatever the other key was
01:24 PilzAdam but when flying that might be possible
01:24 VanessaE you get my point :-)
01:24 PilzAdam I dont really care about the use = climb down
01:24 VanessaE wouldn't it make more sense for climb down/descend to have an actual key def like the rest?
01:24 VanessaE instead of that checkbox
01:29 NakedFury different speeds for run and fly
01:29 VanessaE one thing I would like to see is acceleration/deceleration when going to/from fast, while flying
01:30 VanessaE take say 5 blocks to get up to full speed
01:30 VanessaE 2 or 3 to slow to a stop
01:30 VanessaE that way you don't have to leave fast mode to make little tweaks to your position
01:32 PilzAdam with E as fast flying you have the same effect
01:32 VanessaE ah
01:32 VanessaE too bad there's no equivalent when E = descend :-)
01:33 VanessaE that begs the question though:
01:33 PilzAdam it could be shift because shift doesnt do anything when flying
01:33 VanessaE yes.
01:33 VanessaE question though:  you can look up/down while flying, by way of the mouse...  but unlike look left/right, those don't change your flight pitch.
01:34 VanessaE is there a particular reason it was done that way?
01:34 PilzAdam Terasology has this but its somehow weird
01:34 PilzAdam it isnt handy when building
01:34 VanessaE true
01:34 VanessaE ok, better to leave it the way it is, save for using shift = fast fly
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01:52 VanessaE PilzAdam: "What about on vanilla servers (or even in a vanilla single player game)? Someone crafts some mese fragments, not knowing what they are, and they've just wasted their mese because fragments are useless, and cannot be crafted back into crystals.."
01:53 VanessaE what can we do about this in minetest_game?  Is there some tool or craft possibility we're not thinking of that would deal with this?
01:54 PilzAdam well, shit happens ;-)
01:54 VanessaE hah
01:54 PilzAdam (I thought about this too)
01:54 VanessaE he makes a good point though.
01:55 PilzAdam why is your post in quotes?
01:55 VanessaE because I was quoting someone :-)
01:55 VanessaE 0gb.us wrote that ^^^
01:57 NakedFury cant do anything unless you want to start an undocrafting. there is a risk-reward with craft and discovery too. he just found out there is nothing with fragments yet
01:57 VanessaE NakedFury: nothing in minetest_game, yeah.
01:58 VanessaE I thought, very briefly, about using two fragments + three crystals to make a mese pick...
01:58 VanessaE no other tool in MT does that afaik and not in MC either
01:58 VanessaE but I don't know if that makes any sense.
01:59 PilzAdam VanessaE, its like: "Lets disable falling damage because new players may fall down"
01:59 VanessaE yup I know.
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02:02 VanessaE greetz, bas080
02:03 kaeza back
02:03 kaeza hi V
02:03 kaeza hi bas080
02:03 VanessaE hey kaeza
02:03 NakedFury long time since last saw bas
02:04 kaeza VanessaE: thanks for the //dig tip, I fixed lots of lighting problems in my local server ^_^
02:04 VanessaE noprob
02:05 bas080 Hey VanessaE, kaeza
02:05 PilzAdam got to sleep now; bye
02:05 VanessaE night
02:10 Kacey joined #minetest
02:11 Kacey back
02:11 VanessaE hi
02:11 Kacey im thinking about making an 8-bit decoder
02:12 VanessaE that'll be fun :-)
02:12 VanessaE 8 bits -> 2 hex digits?
02:12 Kacey idk i will make it larger as i need
02:13 Kacey 4 4-bits put together
02:17 Kacey anyone want to help?
02:17 Kacey 72.175.1.20 port 30000 if you do
02:19 Kacey :'( i cant change pages on my server
02:31 Kacey im thinking i will make a 4-bit and annex onto it
02:31 Kacey keaza: are you online?
02:37 Kacey there will be 256 outputs (that is including 0)
02:38 jeffrash anyone know how to make stainless steel Ingets?
02:38 Kacey nope
02:38 VanessaE jeffrash: Technic "Alloy Furnace", regular Steel Ingot + Chromium Ingot
02:38 VanessaE smelt the two together in that type of furnace to get stainless steel.
02:39 jeffrash ok, thanks
02:39 jeffrash Now I need clay to make the Alloy Furnace.  :)
02:45 Kacey hmm..... how about just start with a 4-bit?
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02:47 kaeza Kacey: hey
02:47 Kacey join my server keaza
02:47 kaeza Kacey: use tab completion, it's easier :)
02:47 Kacey dont have it lol
02:47 kaeza kaeza*
02:48 VanessaE Kacey: he's got too much to build on my server yet :-)
02:48 kaeza oh yeah
02:48 Kacey 72.175.1.20 port 30000
02:50 kaeza I was so "busy" lately with a few things that I forgot what it was to *actually* play Minetest :P
02:51 Kacey lol
02:53 * iqualfragile1 got to go to sleep now, even if im in the same timezone as pilzadam…
02:55 Muadtralk what timezone is that?
02:55 Muadtralk out of curiousity
02:57 iqualfragile1 germany
02:57 iqualfragile1 sapier and sfan5 are from here too
02:57 Muadtralk I said timezone not country
02:57 Muadtralk theres a different
02:57 iqualfragile1 !date
02:57 moltenbot Sa 29. Dez 03:57:46 CET 2012
02:57 iqualfragile1 CET
02:57 Muadtralk difference*
02:57 Muadtralk thank you
03:00 kaeza Kacey: is your server still up?
03:00 Muadtralk but none of the people you mentioned are on right now..... so would that mean they are sleeping?
03:00 Muadtralk so how is this a even if  situation?
03:01 Kacey kaeza: yes
03:01 VanessaE Muadtralk: this is the internet - they don't sleep, they enter Z (zombie) state for a while :-)
03:02 kaeza hmm, i'm trying to connect but it gets stuck in 'Connecting to server...'
03:02 Kacey hm?
03:02 kaeza VanessaE: in this case, 'V' (or Vombie) state :P
03:02 Kacey perhaps i dont have the port forwarded
03:02 VanessaE haha
03:03 kaeza Kacey: 72.175.1.20 port 30000 is this right?
03:03 Kacey yes
03:06 kaeza still no response :(
03:08 kaeza nope Kacey, no response :/
03:08 Kacey aaw :(
03:08 Kacey maybe when i get back home you can join and see the different decoders
03:10 kaeza k
03:10 iqualfragile1 Muadtralk: yes, they are sleeping, its
03:10 iqualfragile1 !date
03:10 iqualfragile1 here, people should be sleeping now
03:10 moltenbot Sa 29. Dez 04:10:54 CET 2012
03:12 Kacey !date
03:12 moltenbot Sa 29. Dez 04:12:54 CET 2012
03:13 Kacey llol it is *:!% here
03:13 Kacey 8:15*
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03:24 Kacey bbl
03:58 jeffrash I just crafted a chain saw.  How do you us it?
03:58 jeffrash It doesn't seem to work
04:01 OldCoder Periodic announcement: If anybody knows how to reach Anunakkit ask him to show up. I need to reboot Europe MT VPS.
04:01 OldCoder * Anunakki
04:01 Kacey joined #minetest
04:02 OldCoder Kacey, Hi
04:02 Kacey back
04:02 Kacey hello
04:02 kaeza hi OldCoder
04:02 OldCoder kaeza, I would be happy to try IRC mod again
04:02 kaeza hi Kacey
04:02 Kacey mmmmmmmmmm popcorn
04:02 OldCoder kaeza, indicate when next test is ready
04:02 kaeza OldCoder: whenever you want, do a fresh git clone
04:02 Kacey keaza what is link for new irc mod?
04:02 kaeza s/clone/pull/
04:02 OldCoder Have you made a change?
04:03 kaeza OldCoder: some tidbits here and there
04:03 OldCoder Hmm
04:03 OldCoder All right
04:03 Kacey kaeza what is link for irc mod?
04:03 kaeza OldCoder: and removed the duplicate mt_irc.connect_ok
04:03 OldCoder Tested elsewhere?
04:04 kaeza OldCoder: #minetest-irc-testing
04:04 OldCoder k
04:04 OldCoder Will test
04:04 kaeza Kacey: a sec plz
04:04 Kacey k
04:05 Kacey i got it nvm
04:09 mauvebic size[16,10.5]item_image[1,1;1,1;hdb:41] --?--> 23:07:30: ERROR[main]: item name=hdb:41, pos=(55,103), geom=(40,40)
04:10 mauvebic should there be quotes?
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04:14 Kaceygame *** Kacey joined the game
04:14 Kaceygame <Kacey> hello
04:17 kaeza mauvebic: does MT support fractional metrics for the GUI?
04:17 kaeza I think not
04:18 kaeza s/think/thought/
04:18 Kaceygame <Kacey> brb guys
04:18 Kacey i updated
04:19 Kacey btw*
04:19 Muadtralk one can only know if they try yes?
04:21 Kaceygame <Kacey> back
04:21 mauvebic not sure :/ trying to figure out why item_image dont work
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04:23 OldCoder jojoa1997, Hi
04:24 jojoa1997 hi
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04:24 Muadtralk question to the crowd, if there were to be a recipe for wool that depended on nothing but the default what do you think would be the logical choice?
04:25 Kaceygame <Kacey> mese lots of mese lol
04:25 Muadtralk anyone else?
04:25 jojoa1997 leaves in a 4*4 square
04:25 davidpace Hmmm
04:26 davidpace I dunno
04:26 jojoa1997 there is no other use for leaves in the default besides saplings
04:26 khonkhortisan import sheep cut wool export shep
04:26 davidpace Why not just leave it as it is? Sand with coal, Maybe I'm just an idiot but thats how I think it is
04:27 Muadtralk i was thinking along the lines of papyrus, sticks, papyrus// then stick, dry shrub, stick and on the bottom papyrus, sticks, papyrus
04:27 Muadtralk because that actually isnt a crafting recipe for wool in the default davidpace
04:27 Muadtralk that only works in jordaches wool mod
04:27 davidpace Oh okay :D, Thats what it is on redcrabs server
04:27 davidpace But why not make that the default?
04:28 Muadtralk idk why
04:28 Muadtralk it doesn't make much sense which is why i was asking for alternatives
04:29 davidpace Ok
04:29 jojoa1997 leaf,leaf
04:29 jojoa1997 leaf,leaf,stick
04:30 jojoa1997 leaf,leaf
04:30 jojoa1997 the stick represents a weaver thing kindof
04:30 Muadtralk nice idea
04:31 jojoa1997 and for different colors the recipe should be
04:31 jojoa1997 red wool = wool, lava
04:31 Muadtralk the color recipes are actually functional for wool
04:31 jojoa1997 blue = wool, water
04:31 Muadtralk they depend on the default dyes
04:31 jojoa1997 what are the recipes for different colors then
04:32 jojoa1997 i dont see it in the code
04:32 Muadtralk thats where theres also a snag
04:32 jojoa1997 so there is no recipe
04:32 Muadtralk but for the moment I am trying to get wool sorted out
04:33 Muadtralk ive got recipes for the dyes
04:33 Muadtralk I just need to make a pull request to minetest_game
04:33 Muadtralk XD
04:34 jojoa1997 MAKE IT NOW I WANT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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04:35 kaeza Muadtralk: that's an interesting question
04:35 kaeza there's no "realistic" way to produce wool
04:35 kaeza using only vanilla game
04:36 Muadtralk think outside of the box
04:36 Muadtralk dont think of it as wool
04:36 Muadtralk think of it as a substance
04:37 Muadtralk like thatch or rattan
04:37 Muadtralk or cotton
04:37 Muadtralk not wool in the strict sense
04:37 kaeza hmm... I guess the leaves is the closer you could get to a realistic recipe
04:38 jojoa1997 WHAT about
04:38 kaeza is rubber tree in default?
04:38 jojoa1997 leaf, papyrus
04:38 Muadtralk yeah my papyrus suggestion was overkill and no rubber trees in default
04:38 jojoa1997 papyrus, leaf
04:38 Muadtralk hmmmm
04:38 Muadtralk that may work
04:39 Muadtralk but maybe it would be good to utilize the full 3x3 square so its just a bit harder to make wool
04:39 kaeza I was thinking about that also
04:39 jojoa1997 leaf,papyrus,leaf
04:40 jojoa1997 papyrus,stick,papyrus
04:40 jojoa1997 leaf,papyrus,leaf
04:40 Muadtralk i kinda like that one
04:40 kaeza seems good to me
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04:40 Muadtralk anyone have a better suggestion?
04:42 mauvebic item_image_button works but item_image doesn't seem to
04:43 jojoa1997 seem to what
04:44 mauvebic item_image keeps giving nondescript error
04:46 mauvebic ERROR[main]: item name=hdb:41, pos=(305,195), geom=(40,40)    ie   PCLOADLETTER lol
04:50 RealBadAngel hi
04:51 Muadtralk hello
04:51 jojoa1997 cya family movie night with kung fu panda 2
04:52 RealBadAngel i got an idea, let some1 make grow textures for wheat (8 stages) in return PilzAdam will merge farming mod into minetest_game
04:52 RealBadAngel together with cotton
04:52 RealBadAngel and wool problem will be solved
04:52 Muadtralk hmmmm
04:52 Muadtralk true
04:53 RealBadAngel i tried to make wheat textures but i do suck at 16px
04:53 Muadtralk I have some old farming textures for all the old farming mods
04:53 Muadtralk but i think it needs something new and fresh
04:53 Muadtralk :P
04:53 RealBadAngel farming is needed anyway
04:54 RealBadAngel Muadtralk, btw i like textures you made, good job
04:55 RealBadAngel im workin now on new technic update
04:55 RealBadAngel since im done with the trees
04:56 Muadtralk cool
04:57 kaeza hey RealBadAngel
05:04 Muadtralk https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/89
05:04 moltenbot Muadtralk's link: Crafting Recipes for dye by sdzen ? Pull Request #89 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub
05:09 kaeza Muadtralk: +1
05:13 RealBadAngel Cacti give 8 blue dye ?
05:13 Muadtralk VanessaE's idea not mine
05:13 RealBadAngel since when cacti are blue? :)
05:14 Muadtralk I wanted to make a new ore for it
05:18 kaeza Muadtralk: no more ores in default plz
05:18 Muadtralk why not?
05:18 Muadtralk we just got out of the mese fiasco
05:18 Muadtralk why notjump into a new one?
05:18 kaeza well, after all this mese vs crystal discusssion
05:18 kaeza yeah
05:19 kaeza fiasco?
05:20 Muadtralk yes fiasco
05:20 Muadtralk I cant try to use colourful words?
05:21 Muadtralk okay so I am sending a request for the wool crafting recipe with jojoas recipe unless someone comes up with a better way
05:21 Muadtralk that doesnt envolve waiting for farming
05:21 Muadtralk oh and there is a bug in the default stairs that just crashed my server
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05:22 Muadtralk 20:57:37: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...re/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/stairs/init.lua:158: attempt to index local 'ret' (a nil value)
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05:37 Muadtralk https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/90
05:37 moltenbot Muadtralk's link: Crafting Recipe for Wool and Addition of Plain Wool by sdzen ? Pull Request #90 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub
05:45 VanessaE can someone explain to me what moron thought it was a good idea to make vi/vim the default console text editor in some Linux distros?  that's about as stupid as it gets
05:46 ecube How can you have a default console text editor, and why is vi/vim bad?
05:46 VanessaE vi/vim is bad for n00bs because it's command-driven instead of editor-driven, and the default is usually set by the EDITOR environment variable.
05:46 ecube I never use the EDITOR environment variable, what uses it?
05:46 VanessaE imho, everyone should default to nano unless otherwise instructed
05:47 VanessaE a number of different things, git comes to mind
05:47 VanessaE (it's what you edit your commit msg in)
05:47 ecube ah
05:47 VanessaE I forget what all uses it
05:47 ecube are you okay with vi/vim?
05:48 VanessaE personally, no.  I hate it.
05:49 VanessaE as for emacs, if it had a decent text editor I might consider it ;-)
05:49 ecube emacs is command based
05:49 VanessaE seriously though?  vi always felt to me like edlin, which I just never got the hang of.
05:52 ecube Unfortunately, it has spoiled me, so most of the time i'm too lazy to move my hand away from the keyboard
05:52 ecube or sometimes even the homerow
05:52 kaeza hehehe seems like nobody likes vi
05:52 ecube I like it
05:52 VanessaE nano and similar work best for me.
05:52 ecube i hate the arrow keys
05:53 VanessaE or gedit if I need something with a little more capability
05:54 ecube I never seem to have gotten the hang of nano, it takes me about 10 seconds to remember how to save and exit and actually do so, which is 9.9 seconds more than i'm used to
05:54 VanessaE heh
05:54 VanessaE ctrl-X Y enter
05:55 VanessaE I race through that sequence so fast I often don't notice whether it's actually prompting me to overwrite or not :-)
05:56 ecube ctrl-X makes me nauseous
05:56 ecube literally
05:56 VanessaE hah
05:56 ecube my fat fingers were never designed to reach that way
05:56 VanessaE lol
05:57 kaeza ecube: then use readline and shell redirection lol
05:57 ecube i don't use nano
05:57 Muadtralk goodbye world!
05:57 VanessaE ecube: at least I didn't suggest PICO :-)
05:57 VanessaE night Muadtralk
05:57 ecube night Muadtralk
05:57 Muadtralk um actually its morning now
05:57 kizeren Ahh pico/pine  was awesome in its day
05:57 ecube :x
05:58 VanessaE I cut my teeth on those, kizeren  :-)
05:58 Muadtralk I usually am up about 2 hours from now so yeah.......
05:58 VanessaE ok, good morning then :-)
05:58 * ecube shudders
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05:59 jojoa1997 hello
05:59 VanessaE hi jojo
05:59 ecube hai
05:59 jojoa1997 what was the decision on the wool recipe
06:00 VanessaE jojo: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/90
06:00 jojoa1997 yay that is my recipe
06:01 ecube :)
06:02 kaeza jojoa1997: congrats ;)
06:03 jojoa1997 can someone make a topic like this but for the wool recipe http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4134
06:03 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Proposal:  Change the behavior of Mese [Completed] (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums
06:03 jojoa1997 kaeza: thanks
06:03 jojoa1997 anyone on vanessae's server
06:03 VanessaE jojoa1997: so go ahead and make a topic :-)
06:03 jojoa1997 how do i make strawberry polls
06:04 kaeza strawberry polls?
06:04 VanessaE you mean straw polls :-)
06:04 kaeza there are only banana ones
06:04 VanessaE http://strawpoll.me/
06:04 jojoa1997 sorry straw poll
06:04 jojoa1997 i thought straw said strawberry
06:05 kaeza lol
06:05 VanessaE nope, it refers to straw, as in the grassy stuff animals sleep in, and basically means "informal"
06:05 VanessaE probably derived from the practice of drawing straws
06:06 VanessaE whoever gets the shortest (or longest) is the winner/loser of the draw
06:09 Kacey woah i go afk for a while and my computer shut down minetest
06:09 VanessaE minetest is crashy lately
06:09 VanessaE I've had it do that a couple of times
06:09 Kacey lol it was working (mostly) fine for me
06:10 Kacey been having a screen bug with it
06:10 VanessaE what bug?
06:10 Kacey it glitches out
06:10 VanessaE define "glitches out"
06:11 Kacey the screen jumps around for a second
06:11 jojoa1997 any other ideas from earlier to fill in space for the other options
06:11 VanessaE jojoa1997: dunno, I wasn't paying attention most of the time :-)
06:11 jojoa1997 could you scroll up
06:11 Kacey brb shower
06:12 VanessaE I could but I'm too tired :-)
06:16 jojoa1997 anyone else have a recipe they want to add
06:24 jojoa1997 guys vote please http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=60160#p60160
06:24 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Poll: Default Wool Recipe (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
06:27 jojoa1997 VanessaE: Is your server up?
06:27 VanessaE should be
06:35 jojoa1997 it works
06:35 Kacey back
06:36 VanessaE wb
06:36 VanessaE stink less now? ;-)
06:36 Kacey lol i dont *smells armpit* nvm lol
06:37 VanessaE lol
06:37 Kacey dont know how many times that has happened in bed
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06:43 jojoa1997 im back
06:44 kaeza wb jojoa1997
06:55 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kmeQj6iW5k
06:55 moltenbot Kacey's link: Minetest Mod: Jeija's Mesecons [HD/HQ] - YouTube
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06:56 VanessaE Kacey: ollllld video.
06:57 Kacey ya but what happened to the switch textures?
06:58 VanessaE the entire set of mesecons got new textures months ago.
07:00 ecube so it now isn't just a big yellow thing that looks like it had ME\SE hand-written on it?
07:01 VanessaE ecube: what, the mese block?  it now looks like a somewhat-natural crystallish block with "MESE" engraved into it neatly.
07:01 ecube :o
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07:02 VanessaE hah, speaking of mesecons, look who shows up :S
07:02 VanessaE :D
07:02 ecube lol
07:02 VanessaE Jeija: as always, your timing is impeccable.
07:02 ecube we were talking about mesecons?
07:03 VanessaE ecube: er, yes?
07:03 ecube oh
07:03 Kacey lol perfect timing
07:03 ecube I saw mesecons and immediately thought mese
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07:04 Jeija reading the log...
07:05 Jeija ah btw we are working on a new video, it will be shorter and more advertising, not showing the whole mod (which is nearly impossible without boring the viewer)
07:06 Kacey Jeija, were can i get the new api?
07:06 Jeija It's already in the master branch, documentation is here: http://www.mesecons.net/developers.php
07:06 moltenbot Jeija's link: Mesecons
07:07 Kacey ok and where can i get the old switch texture (i kinda like it)
07:09 Jeija some random old version of mesecons, Kacey, e.g. here: http://ubuntuone.com/48j8fRRHjFThPLH2iEfHiZ
07:09 Kacey meh ill make my own on second though
07:10 Kacey thought*
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07:18 Kacey Jeija: you should see my 4-bit decoder to 7 segment display
07:18 Kacey made with microcontrollers
07:20 VanessaE off to bed now.  Night all.
07:20 ecube night
07:23 Kacey night V
07:25 Kacey Jeija: what is the 2x2 microcontroller thingy?
07:27 Kacey whaere do i download plugs and sockets?
07:35 Jeija Why would you want plugs and sockets? The will break in two days when the API overhaul comes anyway.
07:35 Jeija http://mesecons.net/extensions.php That's where you can download some extensions
07:35 moltenbot Jeija's link: Mesecons
07:40 Kacey well i am going to make a large machine with 2x2 microcontrollers and plugs and sockets
07:44 Kacey it cannot load and run init.lua
07:52 Jeija why would you want plugs and sockets? why don't you just use gates? they can do the same, are smaller and don't crash the server
07:52 ecube what do plugs and sockets do?
07:52 Jeija some old inverters
07:52 Jeija just like the new NOT-Gate, but 3 blocks instead of 1
07:57 Kacey lol it didnt work anyway
07:57 Kacey and neither did 2x2 microcontrollers
07:59 Kacey made a four direction junction
08:02 Jeija http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_LefOtt3o0 << My ingame Server List for Minetest
08:02 moltenbot Jeija's link: Minetest: Server List - YouTube
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09:08 OldCoder kaeza, Hi
09:08 OldCoder kaeza, Same test results as before
09:08 kaeza ?
09:08 OldCoder kaeza, IRC bot works fine
09:08 kaeza but?
09:08 OldCoder kaeza, But player does not join channel at all
09:08 OldCoder Says you are not connected
09:08 OldCoder Please use /join
09:09 OldCoder So the code that sets connect_ok or connected_ok
09:09 OldCoder is failing
09:09 kaeza OldCoder: can you paste line 50of config.lua herE?
09:09 OldCoder Yes
09:09 OldCoder mt_irc.auto_connect = true;
09:10 OldCoder I assure you I remembered to set it
09:10 kaeza I see
09:11 kaeza also set auto_join?
09:11 OldCoder Yep
09:11 OldCoder And the bot works
09:11 kaeza found the error
09:11 OldCoder Oh?
09:11 kaeza the bot only sets the "joined" flag at connect time
09:12 OldCoder All right
09:12 kaeza gonna fix it
09:12 OldCoder k
09:15 kaeza OldCoder: pushed. could you do a pull and test again?
09:15 OldCoder Ready?
09:15 kaeza yeah
09:15 OldCoder k
09:20 OldCoder kaeza, Congratulations
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09:21 OldCoder We have botoff
09:21 kaeza OldCoder: working?
09:21 OldCoder So to speak
09:21 OldCoder Yes
09:21 OldCoder My worlds
09:21 kaeza good!
09:21 OldCoder will all move into channels now
09:21 kaeza and thanks :P
09:21 * OldCoder high fives
09:21 OldCoder Sure
09:21 * kaeza high fives OldCoder
09:21 OldCoder There shall be chat
09:22 celeron55 http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/15lb3i/the_big_list_of_block_engines/
09:22 moltenbot celeron55's link: The **BIG** list of block engines! : gamedev
09:22 kaeza hi celeron55
09:22 kaeza good
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09:30 markveidemanis Hello
09:30 kaeza hey markveidemanis
09:30 OldCoder marktraceur, hi
09:30 OldCoder oops
09:30 OldCoder markveidemanis, hi
09:31 markveidemanis [/NOTIFICATION] SERVER IS UP [NOTIFICATION/]
09:31 kaeza ?
09:31 kaeza oh
09:31 markveidemanis OldCoder: hi
09:31 kaeza markveidemanis: can I test?
09:32 markveidemanis Surr
09:32 markveidemanis Sure
09:32 kaeza IP?
09:32 markveidemanis just a sec
09:32 markveidemanis 86.134.112.141:30000
09:32 kaeza k
09:33 kaeza entering
09:33 markveidemanis Everyone  On  My  Server.>.>
09:33 markveidemanis stress test
09:34 OldCoder kaeza, Your turn to do a quick test with me
09:34 kaeza OldCoder: k
09:34 kaeza sure
09:34 OldCoder kaeza, Please join minetest.org port 30007
09:34 OldCoder as any nick
09:35 kaeza ok
09:35 kaeza markveidemanis: I'll test later ok?
09:35 markveidemanis k
09:35 Infinity__ joined #minetest
09:35 Infinity__ hi
09:35 Infinity__ its me Ragnar
09:35 markveidemanis my server is up everyone! everyone on
09:35 RagnarLaud :d
09:36 RagnarLaud hi mark!
09:36 kaeza OldCoder: connecting...
09:36 OldCoder kaeza, when there
09:37 OldCoder Do you know how to change avatar in new mod?
09:37 kaeza don't know, sorry
09:37 RagnarLaud hi oldcoder
09:37 RagnarLaud i have ubuntu!
09:37 kaeza hi RagnarLaud
09:37 RagnarLaud hi kaeza
09:37 RagnarLaud sup yall
09:37 kaeza RagnarLaud: congrats
09:37 OldCoder kaeza, tell me when in
09:37 kaeza OldCoder: k
09:38 sfan5 !server
09:38 Minetest-tan ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 5, column 1711 (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString)
09:38 RagnarLaud thanks
09:38 sfan5 wut?
09:38 kaeza hi sfan5
09:38 kaeza problems?
09:38 sfan5 <Minetest-tan> ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 5, column 1711 (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString)
09:38 sfan5 ....
09:39 sfan5 !server
09:39 Minetest-tan ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 5, column 1711 (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString)
09:39 OldCoder kaeza, still connecting?
09:39 kaeza OldCoder: 39% now
09:39 OldCoder sfan5, It clearly has a syntax error
09:39 sfan5 yeah
09:40 RagnarLaud i feel like i am walking blind... :)
09:40 OldCoder RagnarLaud, hmm?
09:41 RagnarLaud its a song
09:41 RagnarLaud remixed by nilow
09:41 OldCoder ah
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09:41 OldCoder kaeza, percent?
09:41 OldCoder Calinou, hi
09:41 kaeza OldCoder: 82%
09:41 kaeza hi Calinou
09:42 Calinou hi
09:42 OldCoder testuser you timed out; reloading?
09:43 kaeza yeah
09:43 kaeza back on
09:43 OldCoder kaeza, percent?
09:44 kaeza OldCoder: last reading at last attempt 82%, now 0%
09:44 kaeza OldCoder: do you have any big media files?
09:44 OldCoder I regret I cannot stay awake long. Will anybody else attempt to join 30007 ?
09:45 OldCoder kaeza, I thought you knew
09:45 OldCoder We have ambience but we also have a fix for the speed load problem
09:45 OldCoder kaeza, what is your OS?
09:45 kaeza Ubuntu 12.04
09:45 OldCoder kaeza, Do you have a Curl-enabled MT client?
09:45 kaeza mineteest built two days ago
09:45 OldCoder kaeza, Do you have a Curl-enabled MT client?
09:45 kaeza I don't think so
09:45 Calinou it is disabled by default
09:45 OldCoder All right
09:45 OldCoder Too bad!!
09:46 OldCoder Will somebody else go to 30007?
09:46 OldCoder I need to sleep
09:46 OldCoder But I promised a change
09:46 OldCoder kaeza, What is the percent?
09:46 kaeza OldCoder: I'll stay to see if it connects
09:46 kaeza 0%
09:46 OldCoder But I need to do the test
09:46 kaeza 11%
09:46 OldCoder Hmm
09:46 kaeza 50&
09:47 kaeza %*
09:47 OldCoder k
09:48 OldCoder kaeza, What is the percent?
09:50 OldCoder Is anybody able to visit world 30007?
09:50 RagnarLaud oc!
09:50 RagnarLaud i need some help please
09:51 OldCoder RagnarLaud, I need help first
09:51 OldCoder Go to world 30007
09:51 OldCoder kaeza, What is the percent?
09:51 OldCoder Is anybody able to visit world 30007?
09:52 OldCoder RagnarLaud, I can stay awake perhaps 3 minutes
09:52 OldCoder or 5
09:52 RagnarLaud what?
09:52 OldCoder If you need help go to 30007 now
09:52 RagnarLaud oh nvm
09:52 OldCoder You won't go?
09:52 RagnarLaud nope...
09:52 OldCoder All right
09:52 RagnarLaud i needed help with lua
09:52 OldCoder and I need a simple test
09:52 OldCoder For a change I promised somebody
09:52 kaeza back
09:52 RagnarLaud kaeza
09:52 RagnarLaud have you ever made an ore?
09:53 OldCoder kaeza, it looks like you cannot get in
09:53 OldCoder and nobody else will go
09:53 kaeza OldCoder: I got a core dump
09:53 kaeza trying again
09:53 OldCoder Regrettable
09:53 RagnarLaud kaeza
09:53 OldCoder Use my builds :-)
09:53 RagnarLaud kaeza!
09:53 OldCoder RagnarLaud, He is going to help me
09:53 RagnarLaud have you ever made an ore
09:53 RagnarLaud oh ok
09:53 RagnarLaud :(
09:54 kaeza RagnarLaud: ?
09:54 OldCoder RagnarLaud, If you are able to go to 30007
09:54 kaeza OldCoder: apparently dumped core at 100%
09:54 OldCoder I C
09:54 OldCoder What is the percent now?
09:54 RagnarLaud i need to know how to make an ore that generates, but not much, i want it to be VERY rare
09:54 OldCoder RagnarLaud Go to 30007
09:55 kaeza OldCoder: at black screen
09:55 OldCoder You will save him time
09:55 OldCoder and me
09:55 RagnarLaud HOW?!
09:55 OldCoder What do you mean how?
09:55 RagnarLaud im not in game
09:55 OldCoder Do you not play the game?
09:55 kaeza OldCoder: I'm in
09:55 RagnarLaud -.-not atm
09:55 OldCoder kaeza, Go to inventory
09:55 kaeza yes
09:55 OldCoder kaeza, on menus
09:55 OldCoder You will see Skins
09:56 OldCoder Select the last 2D skin
09:56 OldCoder the last one
09:56 OldCoder #25
09:56 kaeza that one?
09:56 OldCoder Yes
09:56 OldCoder wait
09:56 OldCoder Move a little
09:56 OldCoder heh
09:56 OldCoder Stop
09:57 OldCoder That is what I needed
09:57 OldCoder Thank you
09:57 OldCoder I proposed that skin to somebody
09:57 OldCoder Back needs some work
09:57 kaeza OldCoder: anytime ;)
09:57 OldCoder But funny
09:57 * OldCoder will sleep now
09:57 OldCoder Zzz
09:57 kaeza btw I like that oerkki skin
09:57 OldCoder Oh? O.K.
09:58 kaeza OldCoder: your skin
09:58 OldCoder Yes
09:58 kaeza good night OC
09:58 OldCoder Somebody tell Dogzilla if he shows up that his sister can use the dog now
09:59 OldCoder I will work on the back later
09:59 kaeza k
10:10 Calinou http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/0.4.x-changelog.txt -- updated changelog
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10:23 john_minetest Hello.
10:29 kaeza hey john_minetest
10:30 john_minetest Not much going on in this channel :)
10:30 kaeza not lately
10:31 john_minetest It's the time. Most people sleep at this time or are at work. Around 18:00 UTC it begins.
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10:34 kaeza yeah
10:34 kaeza it's 08:30 here
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10:40 Jordach hello all
10:41 RagnarLaud joined #minetest
10:41 RagnarLaud i need some help
10:42 RagnarLaud yo!
10:42 RagnarLaud kaeza
10:42 kaeza RagnarLaud: ?
10:43 RagnarLaud how do i compile minetest?
10:43 RagnarLaud do you know?
10:43 RagnarLaud my mashine is...wait
10:43 RagnarLaud i686
10:43 kaeza RagnarLaud: gimme a sec
10:43 RagnarLaud i typed in uname -m
10:43 RagnarLaud ok
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10:44 kaeza RagnarLaud: take a look at this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3837
10:44 moltenbot kaeza's link: One-line script: installing/compiling Minetest git, Debian/Ubuntu/Mint (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
10:44 Zeg9 Hi !
10:44 kaeza hey Zeg9
10:44 RagnarLaud hey zeg
10:44 RagnarLaud im using ubuntu
10:44 RagnarLaud yay :')
10:44 Zeg9 Nice.
10:50 Zeg9 Brb. Need a restart
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10:51 RagnarLaud hi
10:51 Zeg9 Hi again.
10:52 john_minetest Hey, Zeg9!
10:53 Zeg9 Hi!
10:53 RagnarLaud hi john_minetest
10:53 john_minetest Just found an american post in a german thread in forum... I had to read it six times and i didn't understand it quite yet :D
10:53 john_minetest Hi Ragnar.
10:53 john_minetest http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=60135#p60135
10:53 moltenbot john_minetest's link: Ich hasse minecraft (Page 2) - Discussion in other languages - Minetest Forums
10:54 Zeg9 Is there any good translator not by google?
10:54 RagnarLaud me!
10:54 RagnarLaud i am!
10:54 RagnarLaud i can translate english-estonian
10:55 RagnarLaud :D
10:55 RagnarLaud 2% LEFT
10:55 RagnarLaud 1%!!!
10:55 kaeza yo solo hablo español.
10:55 kaeza no comprende
10:55 RagnarLaud hola kaeza
10:56 kaeza cómo estás RagnarLaud?
10:56 Zeg9 LOL Google translate PilzAdam's signature
10:56 Zeg9 Do not call me mushroom, mushroom Call me Adam or Adam.
10:56 kaeza Zeg9: lol
10:56 kaeza fail
10:56 john_minetest This is the post translated by me: "The reason, why i am not like minecraft is, because some people, that i know, who play it are obsessed, and are like OH, NO" I died! Now i have to build everything from the start! And in the there how i really care they not and refer to it. Also minetest is free, but mineCRAFT is not"
10:56 kaeza lolwut
10:56 Jordach so risenpilz means giant mushrooms
10:57 john_minetest Yes.
10:57 Jordach cool
10:57 john_minetest and it's "RiEsenpilz"
10:58 john_minetest "ie"
10:58 RagnarLaud im gonna join yo gangstars!
10:58 RagnarLaud soon
10:58 RagnarLaud well bye for now
10:58 john_minetest cya
10:58 kaeza bye
10:58 kaeza ...
10:59 john_minetest yo soy un hombre sincero de don de cresse la palma.
10:59 Zeg9 john_minetest just said "ie" didn't I dream
10:59 kaeza john_minetest: O_o
10:59 john_minetest OMG. IE9.
10:59 Zeg9 We should make a #minetest-offtopic
10:59 Jordach scuse me john_minetest i forgot i before e but never before c
10:59 kaeza john_minetest: what is that meant to mean?
11:00 john_minetest No, I meant that Riesenpilz is written  with an "ie" in the middle
11:00 john_minetest not "Risenpilz"
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11:00 john_minetest the text i wrote? the spanish?
11:01 john_minetest it is from a song.
11:01 kaeza john_minetest: ues
11:01 kaeza yes*
11:01 kaeza oh
11:01 Zeg9 song => doesn't mean anything
11:01 john_minetest it should mean: "I am a honest man from the land where the palms grow."
11:01 kaeza I don't understand the "cresse la palma" thing
11:01 kaeza oh
11:01 kaeza wrong
11:02 john_minetest I don't know if it is written right.
11:02 john_minetest I just know how it is pronounced because i sung it in choir once ^^
11:02 kaeza "Yo soy un hombre honesto de donde crecen las palmeras"
11:02 john_minetest It is from the song "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamera"
11:02 kaeza (palmeras o palmas)
11:03 john_minetest Yo soy un hombre sincero
11:03 john_minetest De donde crece la palma,
11:03 kaeza yeah, that's more like it
11:03 john_minetest yeah. nearly got it :D
11:03 kaeza my native spanish sucks anyway
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11:03 Calinou then install libspanish from a package
11:03 Calinou so that it won't be native
11:04 Calinou or run it with wine
11:04 kaeza I've got no space left after installing libbroken english
11:05 john_minetest i have got libquitegoodenglish, libgerman and libbadfrench installed.
11:05 john_minetest The adventages of a huge hard drive ;)
11:06 kaeza advantages*
11:06 kaeza :D
11:07 kaeza you need to update your libquitegoodenglish
11:07 john_minetest that was an error in libquitegoodenglish.
11:07 Calinou 2TB HDD here, I bet I can't even install libgoogledatabase :|
11:07 john_minetest But libenglish is propietary and i only run free software in my brain.
11:07 john_minetest So I have to run libquitegoodenglish.
11:08 Calinou libquitegoodenglish is made by FSF and is GPL'd, it sucks
11:08 Calinou I'm using libbritishenglish which is BSD
11:08 * Calinou installs it from ubuntu software centre
11:08 Jordach Calinou, high five
11:10 john_minetest I will call RMS and tell him that libenglish is propietary. He will protest until it is free ;)
11:10 Jordach :P
11:10 kaeza nah, somebody from the libenglish will leak info and somebody will make libopenenglish
11:11 john_minetest sure.
11:11 john_minetest And then Oracle will buy libopenenglish and some people will split and make liblibreenglish.
11:11 Calinou lol
11:12 kaeza lol
11:13 Jordach which a competitior libamericanenglish turns up...like abiword
11:13 Calinou glitchiword
11:13 kaeza abugword
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11:14 john_minetest Microsoft will extend the english language with new words to "make it easier for customers" and it will end up in a complete un-standarized version that can only be used by Microsoft programs.
11:15 john_minetest Good old "extend and embrace"
11:15 kaeza then they will make the words the new standard
11:15 kaeza and everyone will have to follow it
11:17 Calinou lol
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11:18 Zeg9 New words: "PC" means "Windows computer"
11:18 Zeg9 I still don't understand why pc means that. PC is personnal computer so you're free to install what you want on it...
11:18 kaeza That's why I bought a PC with no OS in it ;)
11:19 kaeza and installed linux myself
11:19 Zeg9 Yeah.
11:19 Zeg9 But it's hard to find laptops with no os...
11:19 Zeg9 (I use a desktop computer) lol
11:19 Calinou dekstops ftw
11:19 kaeza +1
11:19 Calinou 25% faster for same price, since the GPU is not slowed down
11:19 Calinou I can make a gaming machine for about 800 euros, if I choose an AMD CPU+GPU
11:20 kaeza and easier to upgrade
11:20 Calinou I'll probably do that next time I build a computer to troll VanessaE and Taoki[laptop] :D
11:20 Calinou never built a computer, but I guess it isn't too hard. and today's premade computers are too expensive
11:20 RealBadAngel laptops are just handy gadgets, not real computers
11:20 Taoki[laptop] Why troll us :P
11:20 Zeg9 I always built computers.
11:20 Taoki[laptop] Don't troll me bro
11:21 kaeza last time I built a comp wat a shitty Pentium MMX
11:21 Calinou Taoki[laptop]: catalyst ftw :D
11:21 kaeza was*
11:21 Zeg9 Surface are unhandy gadgets, with a bad interface and OS
11:21 Taoki[laptop] Calinou: Catalyst Control Center?
11:21 Calinou no, the driver itself
11:21 RealBadAngel and a guy who invented touchpad should be hang btw
11:21 Calinou lol
11:21 Zeg9 +1
11:22 Calinou external mouses are just so much better...
11:22 kaeza agreed
11:22 klunk years ago there was sort of joystick in center of some laptop keyboards ... cool stuff
11:22 * Calinou has a laser mouse with "soft" and "hard" wheel settings
11:22 Calinou rather expensive, but worth it
11:22 Calinou no red light below mouse :3
11:25 Zeg9 klunk, this is quite unusable though... I do have tested...
11:25 Calinou trackpads are meh
11:25 kaeza mine cost 8k (~350 US$) with shitty taiwanese components. The only component worth it is the processor
11:25 Calinou trackball*
11:25 Calinou what is your CPU?
11:25 Calinou the pentium one?
11:26 kaeza Intl E5700 Dual-Core @ 3.1 GHz
11:26 kaeza Inel*
11:26 kaeza aaarg
11:26 kaeza Intel*
11:27 klunk Zeg9: meh... That's true :-)))
11:31 Jordach i might build my next tower
11:31 klunk gaming oriented ?
11:32 klunk I mean build to run games ?
11:33 Zeg9 TTY oriented ?
11:33 Zeg9 Framebuffer gaming oriented?
11:34 klunk saving money oriented ?
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11:34 sfan5 !server
11:34 Minetest-tan ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 5, column 1711 (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString)
11:34 MinetestBot ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 5, column 1711 (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString)
11:34 sfan5 wat?
11:35 Zeg9 o.o
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11:38 klunk ( Is there someone here who played were they were fireflyes in game, who can told me what's wrong with it ? )
11:38 sfan5 klunk: me
11:38 sfan5 !server
11:38 Minetest-tan ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 5, column 1711 (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString)
11:39 MinetestBot ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 5, column 1711 (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString)
11:39 klunk sfan5:  cool, I read we can catch it ; wy abandon it ? Too much consomation of ressources ?
11:40 sfan5 dunno
11:40 klunk :-)
11:49 klunk Fireflyes are still in defaut init.lua, what I must do to re-activate it in singleplayer world (ubuntu) ?
11:50 sfan5 klunk: let me see
11:51 klunk thanks !!
11:51 sfan5 ummm
11:51 sfan5 i can't find it in init.lua
11:51 sfan5 !server
11:51 Minetest-tan ...
11:51 sfan5 !server
11:51 Minetest-tan ...
11:52 klunk hu me not more ?? where I read it ??
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12:02 sfan5 !server
12:02 Minetest-tan sfan5: Playground Server [0.4.4] | minetest.cloud.tilaa.org:30000   up (81.367%)
12:03 sfan5 !ping minetest.cloud.tilaa.org
12:03 moltenbot 64 bytes from 46.19.37.42: icmp_req=1 ttl=55 time=11.3 ms
12:03 sfan5 !up minetest.cloud.tilaa.org
12:03 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.cloud.tilaa.org:30000 UP
12:04 klunk I'm only sure I saw fireflyes in defaut mod textures, for the moment.
12:04 john_minetest was off a bit.
12:04 john_minetest back now
12:06 kaeza wb john_minetest
12:08 john_minetest just read all the chat that i missed. I bought a Lenovo Thinkpad T61, second hand for 350€ and it has a trackball. The mousepad is nice. And I use it as my main computer.
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12:09 john_minetest *The trackball is nice, the mousepad not
12:09 john_minetest :)
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12:15 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
12:18 klunk PilzAdam: hello ! And see you later :-)
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12:21 RagnarLaud hi
12:23 sfan5 !commands
12:23 sfan5 !help
12:23 moltenbot Try !up <hostname.org> !teach <topic> !ping <hostname.org> [<port>] !date [timezone] !define <word> !joke
12:23 sfan5 !joke
12:24 john_minetest !define <word>
12:24 moltenbot no definition found, try to use 'thinking'
12:24 john_minetest !define thinking
12:24 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: thinking definition: the action of using one's mind to produce thoughts.
12:24 kaeza !joke
12:24 john_minetest !joke
12:25 kaeza (10:21:42) moltenbot: "kaeza  does infinit loops in 4 seconds."
12:25 kaeza :D
12:25 john_minetest "When john_minetest  sends in his taxes, he sends blank forms and includes only a picture of himself, crouched and ready to attack. john_minetest  has not had to pay taxes, ever."
12:25 kaeza chuck norris jokes FTW!
12:25 john_minetest stallmanfacts FTW
12:26 john_minetest http://stallmanfacts.com/
12:26 kaeza Richard Stallman wrote the compiler God used. The Big Bang was the Universe's first segfault
12:27 kaeza nice
12:27 kaeza :)
12:28 john_minetest http://stallmanfacts.com/what <-marktraceur helped initiating this. lol.
12:28 moltenbot john_minetest's link: StallmanFacts.com
12:28 john_minetest "Also, this couldn't be posible without shacamin's and MarkTraceur's help, who started this madness. "
12:28 markveidemanis hei
12:29 john_minetest "john_minetest  invented a language that incorporates karate and roundhouse kicks. So next time john_minetest  is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat."
12:29 john_minetest xD
12:30 markveidemanis LOL
12:30 markveidemanis im getting a VPS soon
12:30 markveidemanis any recommendations
12:31 thexyz markveidemanis: hetzner.de
12:31 sfan5 hey Minetest-tan
12:31 Minetest-tan Hey sfan5
12:32 markveidemanis specifications...
12:32 markveidemanis 2GHz dual core  2 GB ram
12:33 markveidemanis also needs to be Lubuntu
12:33 thexyz why do you need *buntu for server?
12:33 markveidemanis to be faster
12:34 markveidemanis its the fastest OS
12:34 thexyz deeeerp
12:34 Zeg9 Who said it is the fastest.
12:34 Zeg9 There is no fastest OS.
12:34 markveidemanis it has to be!
12:35 thexyz that message is wrong in so many ways I don't even want to reply to it
12:35 markveidemanis i need someone to recommend me a company
12:35 Zeg9 2GB of ram will cost you
12:35 Zeg9 Why do you need 2GB?
12:36 markveidemanis i need a cheap server
12:37 markveidemanis LXDE is fast, right?
12:37 Zeg9 LXDE for a server...
12:37 Zeg9 For a server you should only use command line...
12:37 markveidemanis fine
12:37 Zeg9 or a windows server :p
12:37 thexyz that's what my message was referring to
12:37 markveidemanis i will, but...
12:37 markveidemanis NOOOO
12:37 markveidemanis not windows
12:37 kaeza a DOS 5.0 server?
12:37 markveidemanis YAY
12:37 markveidemanis DOS
12:37 thexyz so there's almost no difference between debian/ubuntu in speed
12:38 markveidemanis i dont care about OS as long as it works
12:38 Zeg9 I think debian is a good choice for servers
12:38 markveidemanis and i can get a GUI in a file manager
12:38 Zeg9 Why a GUI?..
12:38 markveidemanis so Debian?
12:38 markveidemanis idk
12:38 markveidemanis maybe not
12:39 kaeza markveidemanis: do you have any idea of what is running a dedicated server?
12:39 markveidemanis Debian, 2GHz Dual - Core 1.7 GB ram?
12:39 markveidemanis NO
12:39 kaeza no GUI
12:39 kaeza and nightmares using SSH
12:40 markveidemanis i need a link
12:41 kaeza meh
12:41 thexyz markveidemanis: you don't need any links
12:41 * kaeza has no idea of how to run a server in a VPS anyway
12:41 thexyz just `man man`
12:42 markveidemanis VPS, 2GHz, 1.7GB RAM, Dual - Core Debian
12:42 Zeg9 How much does this cost?
12:43 markveidemanis IDK
12:43 markveidemanis max i will go is £20/year
12:43 markveidemanis :D
12:43 Zeg9 ...
12:43 kaeza (09:22:19) kaeza: mine cost 8k (~350 US$) with shitty taiwanese components. The only component worth it is the processor
12:43 Zeg9 This is more like $20/month
12:43 markveidemanis ok, then a server - not a VPS
12:43 Zeg9 Brb
12:44 Zeg9 Servers are even more expensive lol
12:44 markveidemanis not virtual
12:44 markveidemanis but how will i access it?
12:44 Zeg9 SSH
12:44 Zeg9 but it's really expensive you know
12:44 kaeza that is an Intel E5700 Dual Core @3.1MHz, 4GB of RAM, and 500GB of HDD
12:44 Zeg9 with 512 MB ram and a nice processor it's $5/month
12:44 Zeg9 So imagine.
12:44 kaeza adapt as you need
12:45 * Zeg9 is now away
12:45 thexyz hetzner ones are damn cheap
12:45 thexyz http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex4
12:45 moltenbot thexyz's link: Hetzner Online AG: Dedicated Server EX 4
12:45 thexyz kaeza: MHz? sure..
12:46 kaeza GHz*
12:46 kaeza lol the Z80 had 4MHz
12:46 kaeza :P
12:47 kaeza s/had/ran at/
12:47 john_minetest The fastest thing i ever booted was microcore Linux.
12:49 markveidemanis i need a cheap server i dont give a shit to hardware any more
12:49 thexyz minetest will lag on shitty server
12:49 thexyz (it'll lag even on powerful one though)
12:50 thexyz markveidemanis: how much money can you spend on it per month?
12:50 kaeza thexyz: are there any "official" minimum requirements for MT?
12:50 markveidemanis £1 LOL
12:50 thexyz kaeza: no
12:50 markveidemanis £15 year max
12:50 thexyz markveidemanis: you're out of luck then
12:50 markveidemanis ok  30
12:51 thexyz per month?
12:51 markveidemanis nope
12:51 markveidemanis yesr
12:51 markveidemanis year
12:52 markveidemanis atm im building spawn on local server, anyone wanna join?
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12:53 thexyz the cheapest one I can find is 2.9 €/month, 400mb ram, 750mhz, 6gb hdd
12:53 john_minetest mark: you have got the spawn on your server. Why do you need an other one?
12:53 thexyz btw, markveidemanis, where are you from?
12:54 markveidemanis im in UK
12:54 thexyz and you can't spend more that 2 pounds per month on server?
13:01 kaeza sfan5: PHAIL: "The chemical formula for the highly toxic cyanide ion is CN-. These are also kaeza \' initials. This is not a coincidence."
13:02 sfan5 lol
13:02 kaeza :P
13:04 kaeza "I am a Potassium" -- Ralph Wiggum
13:06 markveidemanis can i get a free, like amazon server?
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13:30 * Zeg9 is back
13:31 john_minetest wb
13:31 markveidemanis hello!
13:32 markveidemanis john, please finish your house
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13:34 markveidemanis hi
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13:51 kaeza markveidemanis: what was your server IP again?
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13:54 analphabet Is there any roadmap available that shows the direction of future development, like planned features?
13:55 kaeza dunno
13:57 sdzen|farfaraway yes
13:57 sdzen|farfaraway but its not like anyone follows it to the dot
13:57 sdzen|farfaraway :P
14:03 jeffrash john or Zeg9 can you join the servers for a sec?  I need help replacing three blocks in the street that are protected.
14:04 analphabet sdzen|farfaraway: Is it publicly available? :P
14:04 sdzen|farfaraway I suppose
14:04 sdzen|farfaraway sniff around the developer wiki
14:04 sdzen|farfaraway you will find it
14:05 jeffrash I only have  about five min then I have to go
14:08 sdzen|farfaraway analphabet i just realized the meaning behind your nick
14:09 analphabet sdzen|farfaraway: What did you say?
14:09 analphabet ;)
14:10 sdzen|farfaraway analphabet: http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap:roadmap
14:10 moltenbot sdzen|farfaraway's link:
14:10 sdzen|farfaraway how useful moltenbot
14:10 analphabet thank you!
14:11 jeffrash john_minetest, I have to go, I left you a gift in the new street.  Please replace the glowstones there with the lamps I left.  thanks.
14:12 john_minetest okay.
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14:13 KikaRz Hi there people!
14:14 sdzen|farfaraway hello there person!
14:14 KikaRz @offtopic, Who can give me one copy of that computer? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-hmjwz8Ucw
14:14 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Best PC ever made 6tb - YouTube
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14:35 john_minetest Quite fast.
14:36 sdzen|farfaraway i bet it runs minetest at like 100000 fps :P
14:37 john_minetest not sure. I didn't see what graphics it has built in.
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14:38 sdzen|farfaraway I would assume that its something expensive :P
14:38 markveidemanis [13:51] <kaeza> markveidemanis: what was your server IP again? <== 86.134.112.141:30000
14:38 markveidemanis know an admin node protection mod
14:38 markveidemanis only accesible by administrators
14:39 kaeza markveidemanis: gonna test your server now
14:39 Zeg9 You can edit mine for that.
14:39 Zeg9 Just remove crafting recipe
14:40 markveidemanis no, i need coordinates, not blocks
14:41 markveidemanis like /protect <name> <pos1> <pos2>
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14:45 davidpace Hi All! :-)
14:45 ecube hai ;)
14:45 sdzen|farfaraway hello davidpace
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14:55 kaeza markveidemanis: are you using the newer plantlife modpack?
14:56 kaeza hi davidpace
14:56 davidpace Hello kaeza
14:58 kaeza markveidemanis: too much lag for me
14:58 kaeza with my crappy inet connection
14:58 Zeg9 ...And mark's crappy inet connection
14:58 kaeza lol
14:58 PilzAdam back
14:58 kaeza wb
14:58 davidpace Haha
15:01 markveidemanis haha?
15:01 markveidemanis crappy
15:07 ecube don't you hate it when you run out of coal
15:15 * Zeg9 is bored.
15:15 ecube why
15:15 Zeg9 Because I'm bored.
15:16 ecube I tend to bore people with my talk about cake apocalypses
15:17 kaeza THE APOCALYPSE IS A LIE!
15:17 Zeg9 I'm already bored, don't add to it please :P
15:18 kaeza okay.jpg
15:18 Exio kill dash nine!
15:18 Exio hai
15:18 kaeza o hai Exio
15:20 markveidemanis so how can i make my server speed faster
15:24 markveidemanis the cake is a lie
15:28 ecube markveidemanis: kill unnecessary processes (check them with ps aux), install less mods
15:30 john_minetest markveidemanis: when you run a client on the same computer where you run the server you get a massive slowdown.
15:34 kaeza markveidemanis: run the dedicated server on a different machine with no X (i.e: CLI only)
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15:38 ecube is he already using one though?
15:38 Zeg9 No.
15:38 * Calinou changed his avatar since 16 hours now
15:38 Calinou ecube: you probably recognize it :D
15:38 Zeg9 avatar? Where?
15:39 ecube I recognized most of your avatars
15:40 Zeg9 Weird, there is no commit on celeron55/minetest since 2 days now
15:40 Calinou Zeg9: on forums
15:40 Calinou it's the "duel" mutator icon in red eclipse :P
15:40 Calinou (the pistols)
15:40 ecube I knew that
15:41 Zeg9 I see . My cache wasn't up to date
15:51 john_minetest The guys on #minecraft channel banned me :(
15:51 ecube lol why
15:51 ecube advertising for minetest?
15:51 john_minetest I said "Not much talk here, In #minetest there is 25% of the people and more talk"
15:51 john_minetest Then i was muted.
15:52 john_minetest I even apologized to the channel master.
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15:54 undercoveragent hey, half the people here is in there too! O_o
15:54 Zeg9 Seriously?
15:55 john_minetest Hi undercoveragent
15:55 NakedFury I am there but that is not a minecraft channel
15:55 john_minetest :D
15:55 john_minetest I am in "#bots" channel
15:56 john_minetest It's epic.
15:56 anonymousagent omg sfan5 is there, too :(
15:57 ecube Huh
15:58 ecube does he ever talk there?
15:58 Zeg9 #minecraft and #minecrafthelp on irc.esper.net are the official Minecraft channels
15:58 Zeg9 I don't know
15:58 Zeg9 But he is there.
15:58 undercoveragent sfan5|OFF: is in there too! you traitor! :P
15:58 Calinou <john_minetest> The guys on #minecraft channel banned me :(
15:58 Calinou of course they do
15:59 Calinou I'm banned from #minecraft @ freenode and #minecraft @ espernet
15:59 john_minetest there is no rule iirc
15:59 undercoveragent lol
15:59 Calinou there is: "love mc or gtfo"
15:59 john_minetest hey, I followed all their rules.
15:59 undercoveragent someone banned anoyne whose name contains "minetest"
15:59 john_minetest lol
15:59 john_minetest these stupid mc fanboys
16:00 NakedFury I have never seen a discussion about MC in those channels
16:00 ecube Actually, a lot of people even ban players who never bought the game
16:00 Calinou of course they do
16:00 Calinou NakedFury: true story
16:00 * Calinou holds glass of wine
16:00 NakedFury just stupid kids acting all big andmature talking about whos dick is the biggest
16:01 NakedFury more like #minecdraftofftopic
16:01 Calinou libreoffice time!
16:01 Calinou (you'll see why)
16:01 john_minetest #minecraftofftopic
16:01 john_minetest who wants to join?
16:01 Zeg9 Calinou: Wanna see that
16:02 PilzAdam lol: first message i see on #minecraft: <ttaylorr> ....and the Login server goes down, what a perfect time ;)
16:02 undercoveragent heh
16:02 Zeg9 Their login server sucks.
16:02 Zeg9 It is always down
16:03 john_minetest That's why we have no login server.
16:03 Zeg9 lol at this mod http://youtu.be/G7_QWe2_NIM
16:03 moltenbot Zeg9's link: Creeperdy creepz - YouTube
16:03 john_minetest Oh, the butter creeper
16:03 Zeg9 Yeah
16:03 Zeg9 I like the spawn coin lol
16:03 * Zeg9 Likes
16:04 ecube Haha... they banned everything with minetest in it
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16:04 ecube oh damn
16:04 john_minetest lol. I chose the wrong name
16:04 Zeg9 I got banned because I said hi to john
16:04 Zeg9 Well, muted
16:04 ecube lol
16:04 sfan5[iPod] who wanted to ask me something?
16:05 Zeg9 We saw you on #minecraft.
16:05 sfan5[iPod] i play minecraft
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16:06 john_minetest I got kicked
16:06 john_minetest I haven't broken any rule
16:06 Exio kickbanned *
16:06 Zeg9 I got muted because I said Hi to john lol
16:06 john_minetest yas
16:06 Exio i should say 'hi Zeg9'
16:06 john_minetest lol
16:07 undercoveragent lol
16:07 Zeg9 Do you want to ?
16:07 john_minetest I kicked everybody from #minecraftofftopic who hasn't got "minetest" in the name.
16:07 Zeg9 I can join if you want
16:07 undercoveragent they're getting pissed off
16:08 ecube lol
16:08 Jordach the people in #minecraft are wastes of life.
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16:08 undercoveragent join_minetest?
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16:08 undercoveragent lulz
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16:09 Jordach OMFG
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16:09 rubenwardy hi al
16:09 rubenwardy ;;
16:09 rubenwardy l
16:10 Jordach we should lead a an angry landmine into #minecraft]
16:10 PilzAdam +1
16:10 mauvebic hi ;;l
16:10 kaeza +1
16:10 Jordach how fast will the ban happen>
16:10 sfan5[iPod] :D
16:10 john_minetest +1
16:10 Jordach +
16:10 Jordach +!
16:10 mauvebic -pi
16:10 Zeg9 +1
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16:11 mauvebic +sqrt
16:11 ecube lolwut
16:11 Zeg9 !sqrt
16:11 Sweden whatwhat
16:11 Zeg9 <Jordach> we should lead a an angry landmine into #minecraft]
16:11 mauvebic dont forget the hypotenuse!~
16:11 john_minetest cat ~/Downloads/minetest/bin/debug.txt | irc #minecraft
16:11 kaeza john_minetest: +1
16:11 Zeg9 +1
16:11 Calinou http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZoNw/Capture%20d%27%C3%A9cran%20-%2029122012%20-%2017:10:51.png
16:11 Zeg9 +20
16:12 Calinou (finally)
16:12 Zeg9 Nice
16:12 john_minetest +1
16:12 Jordach Calinou, lol
16:12 kaeza +1
16:12 Jordach now for #minetest
16:12 Sweden How dare they have fun on IRC!
16:12 kaeza </badtroll>
16:13 PilzAdam lets write a modify the IRC so it posts all debug lines to #minecraft
16:13 Jordach lol
16:13 Exio lolol
16:13 Sweden IRC channels are for serious on-topic discussions, especially unofficial ones.
16:13 PilzAdam (@all people from #minecraft here: yes, we have a simple modding API)
16:13 kaeza trollolol
16:13 Exio ban list filled in 3...2...
16:13 Zeg9 Calinou +20
16:13 Sweden :>
16:13 kaeza Exio: lol
16:13 Sweden I'm not trolling, just being snarky~
16:13 sfan5[iPod] :D
16:14 Mortvert joined #minetest
16:14 Mortvert FREEZE!
16:14 Exio woo
16:14 sfan5[iPod] Mortvert: no
16:14 Mortvert Yes.
16:14 Jordach how about gtfo Minecrap n00b
16:14 sfan5[iPod] no
16:15 john_minetest Everybody has to say the same thing in #minecraft
16:15 Zeg9 May I politely ask why I've been muted for saying "Hi!"
16:15 Mortvert Jordach - You're so cute.
16:15 Exio Zeg9: then you will get banned
16:16 Jordach and...drumroll please. no here gives two fucks
16:16 Mortvert There is no booze over here. Bummer.
16:16 Mortvert left #minetest
16:16 kaeza phail
16:17 Zeg9 I got no answer.
16:18 sfan5[iPod] …
16:18 Ravidgamer left #minetest
16:18 john_minetest What happens when i am bored: http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZoYQ/msg.png
16:18 cyberbolt joined #minetest
16:18 Jordach should i send in a message saying minetest is better
16:19 ecube nah, it makes minetest look bad
16:19 john_minetest Join and say that free software rules
16:19 john_minetest Pronounced: "free softwarez roolz"
16:19 mauvebic thats gonna help with the griefing lol
16:20 Jordach should i piss on their reddit with manic digger is better?
16:20 john_minetest manic digger, lol.
16:20 john_minetest say "infiniminer is better"
16:20 Exio the best thing of MT is the opensource thing and the LUA mod api :P
16:20 ecube lol
16:20 mauvebic windows 3.1 RULEZS
16:20 ecube say Why do you hate minetst so much
16:21 Exio ecube: they hate decente software
16:21 john_minetest maybe join over a web interface
16:21 Exio decent *
16:21 dos5rulez decente?
16:21 john_minetest with a proxy
16:21 dos5rulez ah
16:21 Exio decente is in spanish :P
16:21 dos5rulez nou comprendou
16:21 dos5rulez :P
16:21 mauvebic impossibru
16:21 Exio lol
16:22 Exio wat
16:22 markveidemanis fghhj
16:22 rubenwardy my brother just said the IPad Mini is the best tablet there is...
16:22 rubenwardy of that size
16:22 mauvebic ce tu wla, gwassideur
16:22 john_minetest lol
16:22 ecube lol
16:22 Exio dos5rulez: my whois says you are from argentina
16:22 ecube apple is just getting to suck more and more
16:22 dos5rulez Exio: maybe
16:22 Exio geoip databa fail
16:22 Exio database *
16:22 dos5rulez more to the east
16:22 Exio yeah, ik
16:22 Jordach portugese?
16:22 dos5rulez more to the west
16:23 markveidemanis how do i make my server EVEN FASTER?
16:23 Exio markveidemanis: stop it
16:23 Zeg9 Make it on another computer.
16:23 mauvebic pour grape juice on it
16:23 Jordach emp it.
16:23 markveidemanis ok il try that
16:23 dos5rulez lolwut
16:23 markveidemanis i broke it
16:23 mauvebic now add marmalade
16:23 Zeg9 lol
16:24 Jordach D: GET OUT NOW.
16:24 Zeg9 Notch, I got a problem
16:24 Zeg9 Screenshot:
16:24 Zeg9 http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZoNw/Capture%20d%27%C3%A9cran%20-%2029122012%20-%2017:10:51.png
16:24 cyberbolt left #minetest
16:24 * Calinou patents pie charts
16:25 Zeg9 Brb.
16:25 john_minetest Calinou, that will result in a patent fight with apple. Because a pie chart has rounded edges. and ... hmmmm... Apple pie...
16:25 iloveJB has the new 3d model a name?
16:26 iloveJB I remember someone said Robert but Jordachsaid no
16:26 Zeg9 Jean-Michel
16:27 PilzAdam iloveJB, its character.png
16:27 Zeg9 Hi character.png
16:27 john_minetest I am banned in minecraft.
16:27 john_minetest these sux0rz.
16:29 rubenwardy why would anyone dislike mesecons
16:29 Calinou too slow :P
16:29 rubenwardy surpose
16:30 mauvebic i dont dislike, i just think api should be cpp (faster)
16:30 preludelinux_tv joined #minetest
16:30 Calinou (not everyone can have an i7; people prefer smoking, eating candy, drinking cola)
16:30 Calinou :>
16:31 mauvebic older people have bills, bills and uhm.... oh yeah! more bills lol
16:31 mauvebic wtf is an i7?
16:32 Calinou intel's high end CPUs
16:32 mesetint mauvebic: a processor?
16:32 Calinou are you trolling me? :P
16:32 mauvebic i only got a dualcore 6mo ago lol
16:33 Calinou ._.
16:33 preludelinux_tv bills seem to multiple with age
16:33 rubenwardy I have a Pentium
16:33 rubenwardy very fast
16:34 preludelinux_tv of course i have to many pc's
16:34 rubenwardy for me, anyway. I am not a gamer so I dont need an i7, yet
16:34 PilzAdam lol, I am kicked from #minecraft
16:34 kaeza PilzAdam: what for?
16:35 PilzAdam I explained them that mesetint is the former name of Minetest
16:35 kaeza lol
16:35 mauvebic too powerful a comp isn't much better though - you endup writing mods that mostly only work for you lol
16:35 PilzAdam because someone called it mese tit
16:35 Zeg9 "Do not call me mushroom Adam; mushroom call me Adam or Adam" << your signature from google translate
16:35 devlab wtf?
16:35 mauvebic mese tits...lol
16:35 PilzAdam Zeg9, lol
16:36 RagnarLaud joined #minetest
16:36 Zeg9 Any other translator than google's ? :P
16:36 RagnarLaud hi
16:36 mauvebic "will perform sexual favours for mese pick-axe" lol
16:36 kaeza mauvebic: lol
16:36 kaeza RagnarLaud: hi
16:36 RagnarLaud hi kaeza
16:36 RagnarLaud i wanna play minetest, got any good servers that dont lag?
16:36 RagnarLaud maybe a survval server?
16:37 mauvebic god knows you have time for a happy ending before figuring out how to craft the pickaxe lol
16:37 kaeza 127.0.0.1
16:37 kaeza RagnarLaud: ^
16:37 RagnarLaud ok
16:37 RagnarLaud thanks
16:38 mauvebic be careful for griefers on that server
16:38 RagnarLaud ok
16:39 RagnarLaud hey mauvebic
16:39 devlab Calinou: you ported the misa texture pack?
16:39 RagnarLaud did you make the hydroculture mod?
16:39 mauvebic a long time ago yeah lol
16:39 RagnarLaud why doesnt it have a dl link?
16:40 mauvebic i pulled it, then my old drive crashed and i lost everything on that :P
16:40 mauvebic besides the textures are shit
16:40 john_minetest Hey, is there weather in MT?
16:41 Zeg9 No
16:41 Zeg9 I may have an old hydroculture version.... Someone wants it ? :P
16:41 kaeza john_minetest: 4seasons
16:41 kaeza but no weather
16:41 mauvebic how old? does it still got the 3 colorful flowers?
16:42 john_minetest Something like rain, and snow would be cool.
16:42 mauvebic tried that
16:42 Zeg9 3 colorful flowers ? hmm don't think
16:42 Zeg9 john_minetest there is some snowfall in the snow mod now
16:42 * rubenwardy got HalfLife2 and Portal for Xmas
16:42 mauvebic weather will have to be done in cpp too lol
16:42 Zeg9 Yeah
16:43 mauvebic rain as entities is lagcity
16:43 Zeg9 Oh but wait
16:43 mauvebic rain done like the stars could work
16:43 Zeg9 With models now
16:43 Zeg9 Maybe there is some way to do it from server
16:43 mauvebic models?
16:43 Zeg9 models/meshes
16:43 mauvebic its the number of entities that lag
16:43 Zeg9 btw, hydro  http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZobQ
16:43 mauvebic not the model of the raindrop
16:43 Zeg9 Yeah
16:43 Zeg9 but
16:43 Zeg9 in one model
16:43 Zeg9 you can put multiple rain drops !
16:44 mauvebic problem:
16:44 mauvebic they all have to be same height
16:44 mauvebic otherwise bottom ones hit ground, floaty ones disapear?
16:44 mauvebic *height == elevation
16:44 Zeg9 Well... Yeah it would look hacky
16:45 john_minetest rubenwardy: just saw that you seperated the "install minetest" page from the "install mods" page. Much better now.
16:45 Calinou devlab: yes
16:45 mauvebic not trying to discourage lol just tried alot of methods and saw the rsults lol
16:46 devlab Calinou: why does the Technic Mining Laser MK1 Look like a bow?
16:46 Calinou ask misa to make textures for a mining laser
16:47 Calinou in the misa pack for minecraft there is near-zero mod support :P
16:48 Zeg9 You can use the mining laser from haven tp
16:48 davidpace Is anyone interested in participating in this?: http://www.youtube.com/user/MinetestCommunity?feature=mhee
16:48 moltenbot davidpace's link: MinetestCommunity - YouTube
16:48 kaeza anyone thinks this may be useful for begginners? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4245
16:48 moltenbot kaeza's link: Windows Installer (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
16:48 sfan5 i can use my wiimote as mouse
16:49 PilzAdam davidpace, what do you mean by "participating"?
16:49 Zeg9 kaeza: many windows user would like that, yeah
16:49 davidpace By and helping upload videos
16:49 davidpace By being a part of the channel, help run it
16:49 Zeg9 kaeza: is it InnoSetup or NSIS
16:50 kaeza Zeg9: Inno
16:50 Zeg9 Inno FTW :D
16:50 kaeza I may release the script if there is interest
16:50 rubenwardy just ran it, i like it
16:51 RagnarLaud hey who wants to do a lets play?
16:51 rubenwardy you should add a screen that installs some basic mods
16:51 RagnarLaud kaeza
16:51 RagnarLaud ruben
16:51 kaeza rubenwardy: nice idea
16:51 john_minetest Zeg9: where can i find the snow mod?
16:51 RagnarLaud keaze, rubenwardy, whos up for a lets play?
16:51 Zeg9 http://github.com/Splizard/minetest-snow
16:52 Zeg9 wait no
16:52 Zeg9 http://github.com/Splizard/minetest-mod-snow
16:52 moltenbot Zeg9's link: Splizard/minetest-mod-snow ? GitHub
16:52 rubenwardy ie: farming, animals (simple or mobf), mesecons, carts, moreores, moreblocks, snow, food (maybe)
16:52 rubenwardy the most used ones
16:52 Exio isn't snow 'very slow'?
16:53 rubenwardy yes it is.
16:53 rubenwardy maybe it should be omited from "ie"
16:53 davidpace vbbl
16:53 davidpace bbl
16:53 rubenwardy "  (4:53:08 PM) RagnarLaud: well then fuck you... -.-  "
16:53 RagnarLaud david!
16:53 rubenwardy nice guy
16:53 kaeza anyone has more suggestions?
16:53 devlab haha, I'm reading the Misa HD texture pack on MCForum, hahaha http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/69354-64x14512w49a-misas-realistic-texture-pack-updated-10dec2012/#entry1114407 << -ahahahahaha
16:53 RagnarLaud FUCK
16:53 moltenbot devlab's link: [64x][1.4.5]+[12w49a] Misa's Realistic Texture Pack (UPDATED 10DEC2012) - Minecraft Forum
16:54 RagnarLaud !bbl
16:54 RagnarLaud !g bbl
16:54 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bbl
16:54 RagnarLaud !define bbl
16:55 rubenwardy be back later
16:55 iqualfragile joined #minetest
16:55 RagnarLaud o ok
16:56 markveidemanis http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3954
16:56 moltenbot markveidemanis's link: MarkVeidemanis' Server (leave comments) (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums
16:56 mauvebic are there hidden fields for formspecs?
16:56 RagnarLaud hey mark
16:56 RagnarLaud or mauvebic
16:56 RagnarLaud you wanna do a lets play?
16:59 mauvebic hmm id rather play with myself
16:59 mauvebic *BY
16:59 mauvebic uhm
16:59 kaeza O_o
16:59 kaeza cannot unsee
16:59 mauvebic *by myself lol
16:59 devlab Who has marble in their mod?
16:59 Zeg9 Technic
16:59 Zeg9 ^ RealBadAngel
17:00 iqualfragile yeah, i have asked him to reduce the number of materials he generates
17:00 iqualfragile but he did not want to…
17:00 Zeg9 mauvebic, there is no hidden field :/
17:00 mauvebic crap
17:00 Zeg9 I wanted one too lol
17:00 Zeg9 Why?
17:00 mauvebic so where do i hide start_i for buttons :/ lol
17:00 Zeg9 start_i?
17:00 Zeg9 Well if it's a node formsepc
17:00 Zeg9 spec
17:00 Zeg9 put it in node meta
17:00 iqualfragile zinc, uranium, marble, granite, chromium, obsidian, diamonds are all generated by technic
17:01 mauvebic im making a price index for an economy mod, using buttons instead of the inv
17:01 mauvebic meta: good idea, that or maybe put the pagenum in the buttons
17:01 Zeg9 Yeah but I think meta is better
17:02 Zeg9 Then it's your choice :p
17:02 mauvebic which would be faster?
17:02 mauvebic hmm
17:02 mauvebic same difference
17:02 Zeg9 Faster to code or at runtime?
17:02 mauvebic both cases you need meta lol
17:02 mauvebic meta to get formspec or starti field lol
17:02 Zeg9 No need to get formspec
17:03 mauvebic thats how creative does it but yeah
17:03 Zeg9 you know, the "fields" argument in on_receive_fields :P
17:03 mauvebic a meta field would be easier for this
17:03 Zeg9 For a node I always use meta
17:03 Zeg9 Then if it's an inventory thing I use a global variable in lua
17:04 mauvebic i need to combine the creative inventories of creative - gen2/gen3 and the economy mod lol
17:04 mauvebic taking longer and longer to startup
17:05 Zeg9 I noticed if you start singleplayer several times without closing minetest you get much more memory used
17:05 mauvebic you need to close the client everytime you restart
17:05 devlab RealBadAngel: what's the use for marble?
17:05 * rubenwardy is going on Half Life 2 now...
17:05 kaeza Zeg9: that's a serious mem leak
17:06 mauvebic like this zeg http://www.zimg.eu/i/552337754
17:06 kaeza also FPS drops considerably
17:06 kaeza rubenwardy: care for a CS 1.6 match? :P
17:07 rubenwardy huh?
17:07 kaeza I don't like source
17:07 Zeg9 mauvebic: what's that 30 and 50 numbers?
17:07 mauvebic buy/sell
17:07 Zeg9 Oh ok
17:07 rubenwardy I dont have CS
17:07 kaeza J/K
17:07 Zeg9 How do you decide if you want to buy or sell?
17:07 rubenwardy I like source
17:08 mauvebic sell: drop your items into the nodex (like inventory)
17:08 mauvebic buy: take them from nodex (like inventory)
17:08 mauvebic money is automatically calculated
17:08 Zeg9 ok
17:08 Zeg9 Nice you're selling the guns :D
17:08 Zeg9 Is there the one which blows everything up  ?
17:09 mauvebic all the guns are on admin lock lol
17:09 mauvebic im tired of random visitors blowing a hole in my port hangar bay lol
17:09 mauvebic :P
17:09 kaeza umm... copying minecraft again? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4242
17:09 moltenbot kaeza's link: Butter Creeper (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
17:09 * Zeg9 doesn't feel concerned
17:09 mauvebic loll
17:10 mauvebic though the price index is sposed to show item images not buttons
17:10 mauvebic rba said he'd fix that bug this week
17:12 markveidemanis [16:59] <devlab> Who has marble in their mod?
17:12 markveidemanis building blocks
17:12 mauvebic was prolly the first to try and use item_image[..] since there were no other examples lol
17:13 * john_minetest thinks he should change his IRC name because "minetest" in "john_minetest" is too specified.
17:13 markveidemanis ?
17:13 john_minetest When I join other channels everybody thinks i will advertise minetest
17:14 Calinou join #ubuntu
17:14 Calinou ???
17:14 john_minetest when i only want to look what's going on in other games
17:14 Calinou PROFIT
17:14 markveidemanis haha
17:14 markveidemanis who can help with node ownership
17:14 john_minetest PilzAdam: Your Rain mod is amazing.
17:14 markveidemanis i need to protect spawn on my server
17:14 PilzAdam john_minetest, its verry laggy
17:15 john_minetest PilzAdam: I got it with 11 fps instead of the normal 50-60. Maybe rain should only be showed at the borders of a rainy area.
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17:15 mauvebic there is a rain mod now? cool
17:15 ecube doesn't it involve spawning several entities with the texture of a cluster of a raindrop?
17:16 Zeg9 Did I miss something?
17:16 Zeg9 My PLC disconnected... Maybe I'll use WiFi again lol
17:16 john_minetest PilzAdam: So you seem to have rain in an area that only has rain around it and when you enter , the rain is drawn on the screen in front of you.
17:17 Zeg9 What's this mod?
17:18 Zeg9__ hi
17:18 Zeg9 Should I also register Zeg9__ ?
17:18 Innocence who will help me with my server?
17:18 Innocence Zeg9_________________________________________
17:18 Exio you should register Zeg9____________ too
17:18 Innocence lol
17:18 ecube Innocence: what do you need help with?
17:19 Innocence register all!
17:19 Innocence everything
17:19 Zeg9 Yeah then people will have to pay to have an irc name :)
17:19 Innocence protecting my server from GRIEFERs
17:19 john_minetest I think i know that IRC name i will choose.
17:19 ecube grif protection
17:19 Innocence S
17:19 Innocence yep
17:19 Innocence ?
17:20 Jean-Michel john will understand :p
17:20 Innocence so who will help with protecting spawn?
17:20 ChauffeR joined #minetest
17:20 Zeg9 How hard is it to place protection blocks?
17:21 john_minetest left #minetest
17:22 john_cephalopoda joined #minetest
17:23 Zeg9 Innocence, you should register at nickserv
17:23 john_cephalopoda stupid IRC. I couldn't register john_bläckfiskar.
17:23 Innocence i have
17:23 john_cephalopoda Bläckfiskar is my favourite word now.
17:23 john_cephalopoda gtg
17:23 Zeg9 Why could  I group it to my account then
17:24 markveidemanis minetest net viewtopic  php id 3954
17:24 markveidemanis http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3954
17:24 moltenbot markveidemanis's link: MarkVeidemanis' Server (leave comments) (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums
17:24 markveidemanis leave comments!
17:24 Zeg9 Stop spamming --'
17:25 Sweden haha
17:25 Sweden irony
17:25 Zeg9 mark, could you make a DNS record for your server ?
17:25 Zeg9 I don't feel like entering the IP everytime
17:26 markveidemanis DNS?
17:26 markveidemanis step by step guide for the DNS
17:27 markveidemanis :D
17:27 Zeg9 http://afraid.org
17:27 markveidemanis i cant click on the link...
17:27 markveidemanis im scared
17:27 markveidemanis LOL
17:27 markveidemanis what will happen?
17:27 Zeg9 ...
17:27 PilzAdam gtg; bye
17:28 Zeg9 It's a freeDNS website...
17:28 Zeg9 Cya
17:28 markveidemanis what now?
17:28 Zeg9 !g afraid.org
17:28 Minetest-tan Zeg9: http://freedns.afraid.org/
17:28 Zeg9 Then hit subdomains
17:28 Final joined #minetest
17:28 Zeg9 Register
17:28 markveidemanis Why is it free? It's quite simple. We wanted a challenge... that's it.
17:28 Zeg9 If you want you can pay it's $1 a month
17:28 markveidemanis NO!
17:29 markveidemanis done. logged it
17:29 markveidemanis in
17:30 Zeg9 Then click subdomains again
17:30 Zeg9 click add
17:30 Zeg9 and enter the settings
17:30 markveidemanis subdomain:????
17:30 Zeg9 Choose.
17:31 markveidemanis mark.no-ip.net
17:31 markveidemanis will that wotk?
17:32 Zeg9 ...
17:32 Zeg9 Subdomain: choose one
17:32 Zeg9 Wait
17:32 Zeg9 Subdomain: mark
17:32 Zeg9 If the domain is strangled.net
17:32 Zeg9 then you'll be mark.strangled.net
17:32 markveidemanis oh no
17:32 markveidemanis ok no,
17:32 markveidemanis mooo
17:33 markveidemanis mooo.com
17:33 markveidemanis lol: mark.moo.com?
17:33 markveidemanis ok.DONE
17:34 markveidemanis no, server.strangled.net
17:34 markveidemanis idk
17:34 markveidemanis done
17:34 mauvebic !up mauvebic.strangled.net
17:34 moltenbot Minetest server mauvebic.strangled.net:30000 UP
17:35 markveidemanis !up mark.strangled.net
17:35 moltenbot Minetest server mark.strangled.net:30000 DOWN
17:35 Zeg9 fail.
17:35 markveidemanis WTF
17:35 markveidemanis oh, its still loading
17:35 Zeg9 !up mark.strangled.net.strangled.net
17:35 moltenbot Minetest server mark.strangled.net.strangled.net:30000 UP
17:35 markveidemanis YAY
17:35 Zeg9 You serious ? ...
17:36 mauvebic sweet, spawnpoint working
17:36 Zeg9 lol did you see that
17:36 Zeg9 he registered mark.strangled.net.strangled.net
17:36 markveidemanis i did something, im not incompetent!
17:36 Zeg9 Yeah
17:36 Zeg9 Still better than nothing
17:36 markveidemanis oh, well
17:36 Zeg9 in subdomain just put mark
17:36 markveidemanis i fucked up somewhere
17:36 markveidemanis :D
17:37 markveidemanis i need to choose another address, how many people could be called mark?
17:37 Exio lolol
17:37 Zeg9 What about: markmt.strangled.net
17:37 Zeg9 or markv
17:37 Exio reading is hard Zeg9
17:37 mauvebic ugh
17:37 mauvebic tried to use a ufo
17:37 markveidemanis markmt.yes
17:37 mauvebic its on zeg's head
17:38 markveidemanis !up markmt.strangled.net
17:38 mauvebic looks like an old english sunday hat lol
17:38 moltenbot Minetest server markmt.strangled.net:30000 UP
17:38 markveidemanis ima update forums
17:38 Zeg9 Yeah Exio, so hard
17:38 Zeg9 He said step by step
17:38 Zeg9 :p
17:39 markveidemanis http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55068#p55068 <<=== DID IT!
17:39 moltenbot markveidemanis's link: MarkVeidemanis' Server (leave comments) (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums
17:39 markveidemanis JOIN< LETS HAVE A PARTY
17:39 markveidemanis whoops, holding shift
17:40 markveidemanis !up mark.strangled.net.strangled.net
17:40 moltenbot Minetest server mark.strangled.net.strangled.net:30000 DOWN
17:40 markveidemanis dammit
17:40 markveidemanis join my server everyone, finally i  have a DNS
17:40 markveidemanis !!!j
17:40 markveidemanis !g help
17:40 Minetest-tan markveidemanis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help!_(album)
17:41 markveidemanis !d lol
17:41 moltenbot no definition found, try to use 'thinking'
17:42 davidpace joined #minetest
17:42 davidpace Hola
17:43 mauvebic gwassideur
17:43 markveidemanis !up markmt.strangled.net
17:43 moltenbot Minetest server markmt.strangled.net:30000 UP
17:43 markveidemanis JOIN
17:44 ecube wat
17:44 ecube !servers
17:44 ecube !list
17:45 markveidemanis !l servers
17:45 markveidemanis !g !g
17:45 Minetest-tan markveidemanis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-force
17:45 ecube lol
17:45 markveidemanis ahahhaha
17:45 markveidemanis In straight and level flight lift (L) equals weight (W). In a banked turn of 60°, lift equals double the weight (L=2W). The pilot experiences 2g and a doubled weight. The steeper the bank, the greater the g-forces.
17:45 RagnarLaud hi
17:46 davidpace What genre of music is best for a "how to" Video?
17:46 RagnarLaud hey david!
17:46 RagnarLaud david!!!
17:46 davidpace Yea?
17:46 markveidemanis ragnarlaud
17:46 mauvebic country
17:46 markveidemanis join my server
17:46 RagnarLaud you wanna do a lets play?
17:46 Calinou davidpace: xonotic's music 8D
17:46 markveidemanis markmt.strangled.net
17:46 Calinou (it is freely usable, btw)
17:46 RagnarLaud david
17:46 davidpace What?
17:46 RagnarLaud wanna do a lets play?
17:46 mauvebic something modern like bing crosby or conway twitty
17:46 Calinou btw, hi davidpace :)
17:47 davidpace Hi Calinou
17:47 RagnarLaud wait...do you have a mic?
17:47 davidpace Ragnar not now.
17:47 davidpace And yes I do
17:47 RagnarLaud ok
17:47 RagnarLaud really?
17:47 RagnarLaud then why not?
17:47 davidpace Because I can't right now
17:48 markveidemanis join my serveeeer
17:48 RagnarLaud mark
17:48 RagnarLaud gimme the ip
17:48 kaeza davidpace: Hola!
17:48 RagnarLaud hey david
17:48 RagnarLaud are you in game atm?
17:48 davidpace Hi kaeza
17:48 markveidemanis markmt.strangled.net
17:48 davidpace Ragnar no
17:48 RagnarLaud ok
17:48 RagnarLaud oh...
17:48 RagnarLaud mark, do you havee a mic?
17:48 davidpace Calinou, wtf is xonotic's music 8D?
17:48 markveidemanis yes
17:48 davidpace :-)
17:48 RagnarLaud mumble?
17:49 RagnarLaud mark, lets mumble :D
17:49 markveidemanis ?
17:49 Calinou davidpace: the "8D" is a smiley... xonotic is a free and open source FPS, see xonotic.org
17:49 Calinou it has some kind of futuristic music
17:49 davidpace Ooooo Okay Thanks :d
17:49 RagnarLaud lets play on your server and talk on mumble...
17:50 markveidemanis il PM you....
17:50 davidpace xonotic.org is a game...
17:50 RagnarLaud k
17:50 Calinou yes, it is
17:50 Calinou but you're allowed to use its music, just saying
17:50 Calinou (you'll find it in xonotic-music.pk3 which is in the "data" folder, open it with an archive maanger)
17:50 Calinou manager*
17:51 davidpace Ookay, but i'm not gonna download a game just for the music. Thanks anyway
17:51 Calinou I could send you the music :P
17:51 RagnarLaud Calinou
17:51 davidpace Okay
17:51 RagnarLaud you wanna mumble?
17:51 davidpace Taht'll work Calinou :P
17:51 davidpace *that'll
17:51 Calinou file-roller, i am disappoint
17:51 Calinou uses 1 CPU core only... :|
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17:52 Calinou heh
17:52 Kacey hello
17:52 Calinou .tar.xz == 36MB
17:52 Calinou .zip == 35.9MB
17:52 Calinou lossless is lighter than lossy
17:52 Calinou .ogg is already compressed :P
17:52 mauvebic not so bad
17:52 mauvebic try compressing a half gig map lol
17:52 Calinou that's gonna take a while to upload :D
17:53 mauvebic debug.txt was 3gb... hadn;t cleaned that out in awhile lol
17:53 davidpace Nvm then :), I'll just use the wide selection yt already has up
17:53 mauvebic i can drink a six pack while uploading the map on ompldr lol
17:53 markveidemanis Infinity69?
17:53 VanessaE hi all..
17:53 markveidemanis who's that
17:53 iqualfragile Calinou: https://github.com/Calinou/calinou_mods i see that you have put your mods on github
17:54 RagnarLaud hi vanessae
17:54 iqualfragile could you please split them up?
17:54 mauvebic could almost setup a small file server and save some time lol
17:54 Kacey hi v
17:54 Calinou iqualfragile: I do since like 6 months
17:54 Calinou iqualfragile: why?
17:54 iqualfragile it would be way easyer to manage if every mod had its own repos
17:54 Calinou just git clone then remove the mods you don't want :P
17:54 kaeza hey VanessaE
17:54 Calinou hosting a modpack in the same repo has many upsides
17:54 kaeza hey Kacey
17:54 Calinou one issue tracker for all the mods... better imo
17:54 Kacey hey keaza
17:55 Kacey kaeza*
17:55 iqualfragile on the one hand that would allow me/server-admins to do git clone git://github.com/Calinou/maptools.git
17:55 Calinou hi Kacey
17:55 davidpace Hi Kacey
17:55 Kacey hi Calinou
17:55 davidpace Lets all just say hi to kacey
17:55 Kacey hi davidpace
17:55 davidpace :-)
17:55 Kacey lol why not
17:55 iqualfragile on the other hand it is better for pull-requests
17:55 davidpace Just Joking :P
17:55 Calinou iqualfragile: git clone git://github.com/Calinou/calinou_mods.git && cd calinou_mods && rm -rf <mod_you_want_to_remove>
17:55 Calinou ;)
17:56 iqualfragile Calinou: im not stupid
17:56 iqualfragile please keep that in mind
17:56 davidpace We really thought you were
17:56 davidpace :P
17:56 iqualfragile of cause i could do that
17:56 iqualfragile or clone them into some dir and then create links
17:56 iqualfragile but thats not "clean"
17:56 Zeg9 iqualfragile, I have a way to do it
17:56 iqualfragile you should have one repos for one project
17:57 iqualfragile not one for 4
17:57 Zeg9 git clone in a .* directory
17:57 Zeg9 then link the mods you want to your mods folder
17:57 iqualfragile Zeg9: reading, can you use it?
17:57 mauvebic imo 1 github repo is a PITA to manage lol
17:57 iqualfragile let me cite my self: "or clone them into some dir and then create links"
17:57 Zeg9 ok. Sorry I just came
17:58 iqualfragile -.-
17:58 mauvebic was it... good?
17:58 mauvebic :p
17:58 davidpace -.-
17:58 mauvebic lolll
17:58 davidpace -.-
17:58 davidpace O_O
17:58 iqualfragile so: please split them up Calinou
17:59 iqualfragile and the "easy updating" part is lost when i have to delete anything from the folder
17:59 mauvebic im going to offer a courrier pidgeon download option that should fix all these issues
18:00 mauvebic faster than most rural ISPs
18:00 mauvebic lol
18:00 Calinou do it
18:00 mauvebic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers
18:01 moltenbot mauvebic's link: IP over Avian Carriers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
18:01 VanessaE what I do in the case of mod archives like calinou's is I git pull into a directory set aside for them, then copy out what I want via a script I wrote that builds the game used on my server
18:01 Calinou if you want to update, then git reset --hard HEAD
18:01 Calinou then pull then remove the folder
18:01 Calinou only two more commands
18:01 iqualfragile mauvebic: i have posted that exact link about 5 days ago
18:01 Calinou it's not like I update my mods every hour
18:01 mauvebic really? freaky
18:01 iqualfragile Calinou: and its not automatizable anymore
18:01 Calinou shell scripts?
18:02 iqualfragile yeah, but not general shell scripts
18:02 davidpace Lalala, an almost useless video!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaL0NmbS5r8 :D:D
18:02 moltenbot davidpace's link: How to download and play Minetest for Windows! - YouTube
18:02 iqualfragile i would have to add a special handler just for you
18:02 kaeza davidpace: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4245
18:02 moltenbot kaeza's link: Windows Installer (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
18:02 davidpace I love you moltenbot!
18:02 kaeza (ads provided by adtest) :)
18:02 ecube we really need one for linux-based machines
18:03 iqualfragile https://github.com/iqualfragile/minetest_scripts Calinou: that updates all mods automaticly
18:03 moltenbot Masters link: iqualfragile/minetest_scripts ? GitHub
18:03 mauvebic no point installs differently on most distros
18:03 mauvebic paths are different
18:03 davidpace Hence, my "Almost useless" text
18:03 ecube but that's exactly why we should do it
18:04 iqualfragile besides yours and the ones of thexyz, i have to create a special directory and link the wanted mods, and thats just pointless Calinou
18:04 ecube bah. maybe not.
18:04 mauvebic yeah but who will keep it up to date for every distro?
18:04 mauvebic fedora, arch, ubuntu, debian, what else? lol
18:05 mauvebic i think i heard gentoo the other day
18:05 davidpace Hey! 6 views already! :-) and none of them are by me!
18:05 iqualfragile minetest works on puppy
18:05 ecube that's because people on the channel were watching it
18:05 ecube you linked us to it
18:05 davidpace I know, but who watched it here?
18:05 ecube mauvebic: Surely installing from source is more generic?
18:05 kaeza not me
18:05 davidpace I doubt anyone
18:06 preludelinux_tv its not too hard to pull from git and build the newest version from time to time
18:06 mauvebic and if any noob runs into problems with things like folder permissions
18:06 ecube but for people who don't know...
18:06 ecube lol
18:06 mauvebic drivers and configs
18:07 mauvebic probably a seperate page for each distro install lol
18:07 mauvebic talk to mark he's doing a doc thing
18:07 davidpace Next video.... how to install a texture pack! I know there are already videos out there on how to do it, but I wanna do it for that specific channel :-)
18:08 Calinou ecube: I made an one-line script for downloading & compiling minetest
18:08 Calinou for debian-based distros
18:08 ecube can you link me to it?
18:08 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3837
18:08 moltenbot Calinou's link: One-line script: installing/compiling Minetest git, Debian/Ubuntu/Mint (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
18:09 mauvebic not to knock on debian but its the only distro i know where binary and nouveau suck equally lol
18:09 VanessaE davidpace: use my HDX as your example texture pack :-)
18:09 Calinou mauvebic: no u
18:09 davidpace VanessaE; I will! :-)
18:09 Calinou real men use proprietary drivers, too
18:09 davidpace AFk
18:10 kaeza VanessaE: are texture transforms "official" or some kind of quick hack?
18:10 mauvebic try puppy, arch, maybe slackware, youll double your fps lol
18:10 Calinou zero issues with nvidia driver so far
18:10 VanessaE kaeza: they're official afaik,.
18:10 Calinou arch isn't any faster than ubuntu for anything
18:10 Calinou it doesn't even boot faster
18:10 VanessaE at least official enough that MT has had them for a long while now
18:10 ecube it's cleaner though
18:10 Calinou call me when it is 1) usable 2) efficient
18:10 kaeza VanessaE: I guess units for some of them should be in percentage
18:10 ecube usable?
18:10 Calinou who cares about "clean"
18:10 celeron55 VanessaE: not all of them are official
18:10 ecube it's certainly usable
18:10 mauvebic whats your average uptime?
18:10 celeron55 some are intended for only internal engine usage and may change anytime
18:10 Calinou ecube: I mean, not impossible to install :P
18:11 Calinou mauvebic: I don't keep my computer on 24/7
18:11 ecube Calinou: I generally don't like it when an operating system forces me to use a certain software
18:11 Kacey hey c55 is on
18:11 VanessaE celeron55: I think he's referring to stuff like [transformR90 and so forth
18:11 ecube like pulseaudio
18:11 ecube gnome
18:11 celeron55 there is some issue or pull request on github that has the exact information on this
18:11 ecube blahblahblah
18:11 Calinou no gnome here, xfce
18:11 Calinou pulseaudio ftw
18:11 markveidemanis how to unzip .Gz file in terminal linux?
18:11 Kacey xfce FTW!!!!
18:11 VanessaE celeron55: not the 'internal' stuff
18:11 ecube mauvebic: tar xvf FILENAME
18:11 Calinou it does use CPU, but it works and lets you play several sound sources easily
18:11 Calinou also, pavucontrol is awesome
18:11 mauvebic dualcore is going on 14 days, p4 11 1/2 days lol
18:11 ecube oss ftw
18:11 Calinou I could do that if I wanted
18:11 Calinou oss is obsolete..
18:12 Calinou support is worse, too
18:12 ecube idc
18:12 ecube i hate pulse
18:12 Calinou reason?
18:12 mauvebic and cpu and ram are still near zero
18:12 Calinou doesn't work with your dell?
18:12 Calinou mauvebic: RAM usage is not an indicator of performance
18:12 ecube lol yes
18:12 Calinou 12GB RAM here, I don't whine when 1GB RAM gets used when playing a game
18:12 ecube and when it does, it just tends to fail on me
18:12 kaeza VanessaE: this is what I'm talking about:
18:12 VanessaE kaeza: already seen it.
18:12 kaeza this is using normal 16px textures: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_3878803943.jpg
18:13 mauvebic 12gb, that explains why you dont have problems with debian lol
18:13 celeron55 kaeza, VanessaE: my comment here: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/361
18:13 kaeza and this is using your 128px pack: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_3878770416.jpg
18:13 moltenbot celeron55's link: Added texture transformations documentation to MT Lua API docs. by kaeza ? Pull Request #361 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
18:13 Calinou xubuntu
18:13 Calinou also, I could live with 2GB :P
18:13 mauvebic i got 3 and 2, and i dont need the system taking up a third or half of it
18:13 VanessaE kaeza: I use your version of the API doc as a reference when I need one of those transforms :-)
18:13 ecube Calinou: there's a tutorial on installing arch
18:13 Calinou 612MB used right now
18:13 mauvebic even ubuntu xfce is slower than xfce on other systems (why?)
18:13 Calinou ecube: doesnotworkforme
18:13 celeron55 kaeza, VanessaE: that is, [forcesingle, [verticalframe and [crack* do not belong to the official api
18:14 Kacey xubuntu FTW!!!!!
18:14 Calinou mauvebic: remove some startup applications like bluetooth, update notifier
18:14 VanessaE celeron55: right.
18:14 markveidemanis how can i extract a file in terminal under linux?
18:14 kaeza celeron55: ok
18:14 Calinou gunzip <file name>
18:14 celeron55 oh, that pull request was from kaeza
18:14 VanessaE celeron55: at any rate, you should merge kaeza's changes as soon as [forcesingle/[verticalframe/[crack* are removed from it.
18:14 Calinou bunzip2 <filename>
18:15 Calinou for .gz and .bz2 respectively
18:15 Calinou then extract the .tar if any: tar xf <file name>
18:15 celeron55 why does kaeza even ask anything then...
18:15 davidpace back
18:15 mauvebic the best thing anyone can do anyhow is to try different distros on an extra partition (without screwing up their root)
18:15 mauvebic you find it fast enough what works and doesnt lol
18:15 ecube tar xf works for most archives
18:15 marktraceur OldCoder: Hi!
18:15 Calinou hi marktraceur
18:15 kaeza celeron55: I just asked if they were an official part of the api since the positions/dimensions would be better in percentages
18:16 Calinou marktraceur: distro war, participate
18:16 ecube arch ftw
18:16 mauvebic not a distro war with 2 distros, more like
18:16 mauvebic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOO7lkV1BGY
18:16 kaeza hey marktraceur
18:16 moltenbot mauvebic's link: coq fight - YouTube
18:16 mauvebic lol
18:17 mauvebic what is ftw?
18:17 ecube for the win
18:17 mauvebic aah
18:17 ecube hai mark
18:17 mauvebic arch is still a c*** to install binary blobs lol
18:18 mauvebic but its much the same everywhere
18:18 marktraceur Calinou: Who's asking? I think I've recommended Trisquel GNU/Linux to all who have asked so far.
18:18 marktraceur kaeza: What's up?
18:18 ecube ubuntu's been doing stuff like windows lately
18:19 mauvebic i used to like crunchbang but the updates were sporadic
18:19 kaeza VanessaE: so should documentation about those transforms be discarded?
18:19 kaeza marktraceur: not much
18:19 VanessaE kaeza: about the 'internal' ones, yeah.
18:19 mauvebic CB = blazing fast debian
18:20 davidpace Alrighty, leaving to do another video on texture packs ;-)
18:20 davidpace Bbl
18:20 kaeza VanessaE: OK, and I will take celeron55's suggestion to reformat it more like the rest of the file
18:20 kaeza and add other details to api.minetest.net
18:21 VanessaE information like this needs to be documented.
18:21 mauvebic was there a pull request for item_image[] since yesterday?
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18:21 RagnarLaud hi minetest-tan
18:21 Minetest-tan Hi RagnarLaud
18:21 RagnarLaud hi VanessaE
18:22 VanessaE hi.
18:22 mauvebic +10 https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/372
18:22 moltenbot mauvebic's link: Implement "textarea", a multi-line input field in formspec by Jeija ? Pull Request #372 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
18:22 RagnarLaud vamessa, are you in game arm?
18:22 VanessaE RagnarLaud: eh?
18:22 RagnarLaud are you plating right now
18:22 kaeza mauvebic: cool
18:22 RagnarLaud playing*
18:22 RagnarLaud hi kaeza
18:23 kaeza hi
18:23 VanessaE not at the moment.
18:23 mauvebic kaeza not my pull its jeija's
18:23 kaeza mauvebic: I know
18:23 RagnarLaud kaeza are you in-game?
18:23 mauvebic ahk lol
18:23 kaeza nope
18:23 RagnarLaud oh...
18:23 RagnarLaud well come to Glomies
18:23 mauvebic but nothing on itemimage yet :(
18:24 RagnarLaud !up glomies
18:24 RagnarLaud !server
18:24 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: LPGC Minetest Server | games.libreplanet.org:30000   down
18:24 RagnarLaud !server
18:24 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: M13's Server (0.4.3) | m13.servegame.com:30001   down
18:24 RagnarLaud !server
18:24 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: Shaun's survival & IRC testing server (0.4.4) | mcbride.homelinux.net:30000   up (97.981%)
18:24 ecube dayum
18:24 kaeza mauvebic: that could be used for a description field for an internal mod manager :)
18:25 ecube i hope mine's not listed, it's been down for months
18:25 ecube with no intention of putting it back up
18:25 kaeza and for the signs+ (or whatever it is called)
18:25 VanessaE ecube: sad, it was a nice map :-/
18:26 ecube it wasn't running on a dedicated host and I didn't have the resources to get one... that was its main downfall...
18:26 mauvebic kaeza i was thinking textareas would be more practical for RPG mods
18:27 mauvebic NPCs, quests, shit like that
18:27 kaeza mauvebic: +1000000 to whoever codes a real NPC
18:28 markveidemanis +∞
18:28 kaeza s/real/good/
18:28 mauvebic dont look at me, ask jordan and sapier lol
18:28 mauvebic textarea will be practical for my market mod tho
18:29 Calinou +∞ to whoever codes fast mobs
18:29 kaeza meh, jordan does not come here and I won't waste my precious time sending an E-mail
18:29 mauvebic slow mobs aint the modders' fault
18:29 VanessaE kaeza: he'll be back after the first of the year, so he said
18:29 mauvebic entities are just slow
18:29 mauvebic more entities = more slow
18:30 kaeza yeah
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18:30 mauvebic no entities on my p4, dualcore ok
18:30 Calinou mauvebic: fast mobs need C++, this is why noone made fast mobs
18:30 Calinou making AI in lua is beyond pointless
18:30 mauvebic and if you already have a shitload of abm's on your server dont imagine that helps entities one bit lol
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18:30 kaeza Calinou: whoever ported mobs to Lua deserves a -1000
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18:31 Calinou heh, davidpace left, I finished uploading the music..
18:31 devlab how swell, i did a test join on markveidemanis' server, first thing i see from him is to compile Minetest's latest git
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18:31 mauvebic well a mob api done in cpp for the most basic of AI's and a lua wrapper/interface would be best
18:31 Calinou gtg anyway, bye
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18:32 VanessaE cya Calinou
18:32 mauvebic but anyways, velocity and accell could be a little better
18:32 mauvebic *accel
18:33 mauvebic though syntax highlighting doesn't help me *get* cpp so it wont be me lol
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18:34 mauvebic +1 https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/370
18:34 moltenbot mauvebic's link: Fix attachment bug: the parent going faster than the camera by Zeg9 ? Pull Request #370 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
18:35 mauvebic if it works thats great
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18:38 Zeg9 It does. ;)
18:39 Zeg9 There are still some bugs like the duplicating entities, but it's another thing
18:41 mauvebic sweet
18:41 mauvebic still havent figured how to texture meshes so ill leave em blank lol
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18:43 Zeg9 mauvebic, you need blender or a similar program to do that
18:43 Zeg9 Or you can edit the UV map directly from the model file, but good luck with that :P
18:43 mauvebic tried
18:44 mauvebic looks like rocket science
18:44 mauvebic lol
18:44 Zeg9 My pull request fixes the player being outside of the UFO when you're going fast, for example
18:45 * Zeg9 will be back later
18:46 mauvebic does it fix the player being scaled to the same visual size of the entitity?
18:46 mauvebic okiedokie
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18:51 Kacey we need a village/villager mod
18:52 mauvebic like this? http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/76500672/Village+People+png.png
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19:01 Kacey idk
19:06 VanessaE zzz
19:06 mauvebic cornernote wrote a village mod i think
19:08 ecube did it generate villages around the map?
19:09 mauvebic ouf its been awhile
19:09 mauvebic but its not difficult to have random WEP's spawn
19:09 mauvebic pick a random point, calculate space, terrain elevation, and poof
19:10 mauvebic even easy to calculate avg terrain height and even it out
19:11 mauvebic add all the coordinates of grass nodes, divide by the number, math floor and you got an even lot
19:11 iqualfragile mauvebic: ont forget to advoid building villages over clifs :D
19:12 mauvebic well any WEP spawner well check the given area to see what fits
19:12 mauvebic otherwise it would look funny yeah lol
19:13 mauvebic be a cool way to populate a new server with a small spawncity
19:14 mauvebic make a repo of WEP's people can download too, make easy replace of nodes they dont have, etc.
19:15 mauvebic could even have an online version of the mod that spawns new WEPs regardless of mod updates lol
19:15 mauvebic (get em off the net)
19:15 mauvebic could use python for that if lua dont work
19:17 mauvebic hell i may even find a way to buy WEP's through my market thingy (with the funny money)
19:22 markveidemanis give me a link to a service that can host my minetest server with no lagg, i want to pay yearly
19:22 mauvebic ask oldcoder and jordach, they know about vps's
19:23 markveidemanis Noooooo
19:23 markveidemanis good timing...
19:25 markveidemanis ll
19:25 kaeza ll?
19:26 marktraceur markveidemanis: Linode is a good VPS service
19:26 markveidemanis k
19:26 markveidemanis payment?
19:26 marktraceur markveidemanis: I don't know, you can look at it
19:26 markveidemanis I am
19:26 thexyz marktraceur: no way, he's only going to spend something like 2 pounds/month
19:27 marktraceur markveidemanis: I'd imagine most companies can accept a payment that covers your account for the year, but that seems like you'll need to call someone to set it up
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19:27 thexyz and linode is more expensive that hetzner ^^
19:27 markveidemanis at the maximum, im paying £20 a year
19:28 markveidemanis just £20!
19:28 marktraceur markveidemanis: Then you are not going to space today
19:28 jklsemicolon what happened to moltenbot?
19:28 VanessaE you'll be lucky to find a VPS that cheap
19:28 markveidemanis ok, 30 maybe
19:28 VanessaE I'd guess you can expect closer to 150/yr or so.
19:29 thexyz markveidemanis: http://vps2fast.com/vds/
19:29 moltenbot thexyz's link: Cheap virtual dedicated server, managed virtual server hosting Linux - FastVPS
19:29 thexyz ^ those are some russian guys who resell hetzner btw
19:29 markveidemanis k thanks
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19:29 VanessaE ..for a VPS that's *fast enough* for MT server and a handful of good mods.
19:29 thexyz yeah
19:29 thexyz marktraceur: but be afraid of OpenVZ
19:30 markveidemanis how many MHz in a GHz (N00B, sorry)
19:30 VanessaE markveidemanis: 1000
19:30 markveidemanis thanks
19:30 VanessaE 1 GHz = 1000 MHz
19:31 markveidemanis how much RAM do i need?
19:31 marktraceur markveidemanis: All the units are multiples of 1024, which is 2^10.
19:31 thexyz marktraceur: unrelated, what server does LPGC use for MT?
19:31 VanessaE RAM isn't much of an issue, it's CPU speed that you need to focus on
19:31 markveidemanis 750 MHz
19:31 marktraceur thexyz: It's hosted on FSF hardware, running Trisquel GNU/Linux.
19:31 markveidemanis ?
19:32 VanessaE 750 MHz ain't gonna cut it.  you need 2+ GHz for good performance.
19:32 marktraceur thexyz: The current lack of server upness can be attributed to my lack of planning, by the way :)
19:33 markveidemanis k
19:33 markveidemanis maybe 1700 MHz
19:33 markveidemanis ?
19:33 markveidemanis lol i have 1.6 on my pc
19:33 markveidemanis and runs good
19:33 markveidemanis kind of
19:33 VanessaE "kind of"
19:33 VanessaE either it does or it don't :-)
19:34 OldCoder Back
19:34 VanessaE A lot depends on how many mods, and what they are, that you've installed.
19:35 VanessaE if they're just a bunch of decorative blocks, those lower-end servers are probably okay, just.  But if you've got active stuff, lots of ores, anything with ABMs, mapgen hooks, etc. you need everything you can get.
19:35 markveidemanis ok, i wanna try a free host service, if it not work, i can pay
19:35 VanessaE free hosts aren't likely going to allow you to run a server
19:36 VanessaE those are normally geared toward web services
19:36 markveidemanis i wanna try a free host
19:36 * marktraceur giggles
19:37 marktraceur markveidemanis: Good luck
19:37 markveidemanis if it wont cut it, il upgrade
19:37 VanessaE markveidemanis: good luck, but you're about to waste a lot of time I think.
19:37 markveidemanis but thats why i turn to you for links :D
19:37 markveidemanis well?
19:38 markveidemanis i wanna access it with remote desktop connection
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19:38 markveidemanis and whats the equivalent of that in linux?
19:38 markveidemanis if it runs as bad as my pc, i dont care. i want it up 24/7
19:39 markveidemanis Hmmm
19:39 markveidemanis m
19:39 markveidemanis who has free room on their VPS's??
19:39 markveidemanis lol
19:39 thexyz yay, http://minetest.net/forum/misc.php?section=pun_pm&amp;pmpage=inbox
19:39 moltenbot thexyz's link: Forum message - Minetest Forums
19:39 Exio markveidemanis: are you going to use X11 in a server?
19:39 Exio markveidemanis: really?
19:39 markveidemanis what is x11
19:39 kaeza *facepalm*
19:40 markveidemanis who has free room on their V{S's
19:40 markveidemanis VPS's
19:40 * marktraceur smacks markveidemanis
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19:40 thexyz markveidemanis: x11 is xxxxxxxxxxx
19:40 markveidemanis X11?
19:41 marktraceur markveidemanis: If you think you want to connect to a GNU/Linux server graphically, you will not be going to space today.
19:42 * markveidemanis
19:42 * markveidemanis <== He  Wants  A  VPS
19:42 thexyz why not? ssh -X
19:43 markveidemanis ?
19:43 marktraceur thexyz: Considering that he doesn't know what X is, that will be difficult for him
19:43 markveidemanis i need a VPS and people will have spare room on their's!
19:44 iqualfragile who can help me to find the download link on this page (russian) http://bombus.jrudevels.org/
19:44 moltenbot Masters link:  Bombus ||
19:44 marktraceur markveidemanis: Ask somewhere else, please.
19:44 markveidemanis Never!
19:44 thexyz iqualfragile: http://bombus.jrudevels.org/index.php?page=download
19:44 moltenbot thexyz's link:  Bombus ||
19:44 iqualfragile thanks
19:45 thexyz iqualfragile: or http://svn.xmpp.ru/repos/bombus/trunk/
19:45 moltenbot thexyz's link: bombus - Revision 1442: /trunk
19:45 marktraceur markveidemanis: We've offered you ideas. You want too much power for too little money, and you have no idea how to run a server. You need a class, not one-off ideas in IRC.
19:46 iqualfragile ieks, svn
19:48 * VanessaE scrolls back and re-reads the last page of conversation that she missed...and cries a little
19:49 mauvebic works :-) http://www.zimg.eu/i/1112488132
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19:52 thexyz VanessaE: faith in the world... lost?
19:53 VanessaE thexyz: years ago.  I just lost a little more faith in geekdom :(
19:56 RagnarLaud hi!
20:00 OldCoder VanessaE, thexyz, mauvebic, others: hello
20:00 VanessaE hey odl
20:00 VanessaE OldCoder
20:01 thexyz OldCoder: hi
20:01 VanessaE note to self:  o-d-l-Tab will not complete to "OldCoder".
20:03 mauvebic howdy
20:03 OldCoder odltab
20:03 OldCoder Good nick
20:04 OldCoder NEWS I am continuing to try to reach Anunakki to bring back Europe world. IRC mod works now! My worlds will now be wired for IRC. Avatar added for Dogzilla sister. Somebody else wanted avatars uploaded; tell me. VanessaE update coming shortly. More changes are queued.
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20:11 davidpace VanessaE. I am here to say that the Suicide Booth on your server is a successful minetest crasher! Good Day!
20:11 davidpace ;)
20:11 VanessaE lol
20:11 VanessaE celeron55: feel like fixing a really hard bug? :-)
20:11 davidpace Haha
20:12 davidpace It was fun for the 0.2 seconds I was on that fun ride!
20:13 kizeren david.....thanks for the short lived fun :)
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20:15 davidpace_ No problem kizeren! :-)
20:15 thexyz VanessaE: feel like reporting it?
20:15 VanessaE thexyz: *shrug*
20:16 davidpace_ I have a question, Who is in charge of the minetest wiki?
20:16 VanessaE the person who first experienced that crash should
20:16 thexyz davidpace_: which one?
20:17 davidpace_ Wtf? It finally registers that I left and came back? lol
20:17 VanessaE thexyz: besides which, the smiley should have been a good indicator that I was kidding.
20:18 davidpace This wiki: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Minetest_Wiki
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20:22 thexyz davidpace: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User:Admin
20:22 davidpace Who is Saxony???? O_o
20:36 OldCoder NEWS U.S. Worlds will shut down for a bit of work
20:36 OldCoder Does anybody have mod requests?
20:36 OldCoder And who wanted the avatars uploaded?
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20:45 kasutaja hi
20:45 kasutaja woops
20:45 thexyz hi
20:52 OldCoder Somebody wanted up to upload new skins. If anybody can clarify this let me know.
20:52 OldCoder Also indicate new mod or world updates
20:52 OldCoder Now is the time
20:55 thexyz kasutaja: bai
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21:09 OldCoder markveidemanis, I will comment in a bit
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21:17 OldCoder mauvebic, I wish to discuss your world later. I am working on all of them.
21:17 mauvebic okiedokie
21:17 OldCoder Folks, the worlds will return in a few hours. Please signal me regarding new mods you wish updated or added. Also skins to upload.
21:17 OldCoder It is really easier on me to make all these changes at once.
21:18 OldCoder I will do an errand now and return. Nice to see you!
21:18 OldCoder o/
21:18 * OldCoder will be back in a little while
21:18 mauvebic ill be here :-)
21:18 OldCoder k
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21:20 markveidemanis msg from oldcoder....
21:20 markveidemanis make links
21:20 markveidemanis upliad files
21:21 markveidemanis to make things faster
21:21 mauvebic upliad what?
21:21 markveidemanis skins
21:21 mauvebic im not the skin guy lol
21:22 markveidemanis ok
21:22 mauvebic faster +1
21:22 markveidemanis i am on phone so i not good type
21:22 markveidemanis plusone
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21:25 john_minetest back
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21:34 markveidemanis ui
21:43 john_minetest markveidemanis: I wanted to test the lag on your server, took my watch to stop the time, watched on the clock now and it shows 8 hours 0_o
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21:45 markveidemanis im going to sleep Cya
21:45 ecube bye
21:53 Obiewan1111 If anyone here was interested in competing in my Quick Build Challenge, I'm building the arena now, and an update was posted on the forum post earlier. I'll need people to compete against me..
21:54 john_cephalopoda Quickbuild challenge?
21:56 Obiewan1111 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4076
21:56 moltenbot Obiewan1111's link: Minetest Quick Build Challenge [VanessaE's Server] (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums
21:57 kaeza Obiewan1111: hi
21:57 john_cephalopoda Lol, i just started joining VanessaE's server.
21:57 Obiewan1111 Need to make some updates on the original post.
21:57 john_cephalopoda Obiewan1111: You wanted to make the song intro in blender?
21:57 Obiewan1111 How to you pm? Bit new to irc.
21:57 VanessaE /msg someone some message here
22:01 M13 VanessaE
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22:03 VanessaE hm?
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22:13 davidpace Hi Again....
22:14 kaeza hi davidpace
22:14 Obiewan1111 Yo.
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22:18 Obiewan1111 Vanessa, someone on your server is asking for interact privs.
22:18 VanessaE tell him to post on the forum thread first.
22:20 Obiewan1111 Told him.
22:20 VanessaE k
22:20 Obiewan1111 He's foreign and it took some explaining, but I got there.
22:20 * VanessaE is busy testing an update to conifers to use plantlife lib
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22:32 * john_cephalopoda is taking sources from the pull requests on github to configure his minetest version.
22:35 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=60331#p60331
22:35 VanessaE \o/
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22:38 VanessaE hey redcrab.
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22:43 OldCoder Hi
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22:45 VanessaE no one cares? :(
22:48 OldCoder VanessaE, people care!
22:48 Muadtralk they do
22:48 OldCoder VanessaE, what are we discussing>
22:48 OldCoder ?
22:48 Muadtralk but that mod always hurt people
22:48 VanessaE OldCoder: I updated conifers :-)
22:48 OldCoder Is it safe?
22:48 OldCoder What does Muadtralk mean?
22:49 OldCoder Are the pine needles too pointy?
22:49 OldCoder Speak
22:49 Muadtralk theres an issue in the spawning
22:49 OldCoder Ah
22:49 OldCoder Spahwning
22:49 Muadtralk i caused mayhem
22:49 VanessaE I've been running it on my server for weeks now, this update is live too, for about an hour.  should be safe.  plantlife got a small update to allow for it
22:49 Muadtralk it*
22:49 VanessaE Muadtralk: not anymore there isn't.
22:49 VanessaE I brought it under control.
22:49 Muadtralk hmmm
22:49 Muadtralk okay then
22:49 Muadtralk maybe it was just cause i turned them into jungletree's
22:50 Muadtralk :P
22:50 OldCoder What do conifers do
22:50 OldCoder ?
22:50 OldCoder And does anybody have other mods or skins they wish me to use?
22:50 VanessaE OldCoder: really tall pine/cedar trees
22:50 OldCoder Are they nice? Without price? Trees no longer on ice? Does this suffice?
22:51 * OldCoder listens
22:51 * OldCoder does not even hear crickets
22:51 VanessaE heh
22:52 VanessaE well I limited them via perlin noise, and also the grass they spawn on must have at least three grass neighbors, and as cisoun originally programmed, they must be 25+ meters above sea level to spawn
22:52 VanessaE and their distance from one another has been slightly randomized as well to reduce patterns that sometimes appear.
22:52 OldCoder So they are good?
22:53 VanessaE and my fork uses way less CPU than the original :-)
22:53 OldCoder Conifericious?
22:53 VanessaE yeah, they're good.
22:53 OldCoder They are nice trees?
22:53 OldCoder Then geez
22:53 OldCoder We shall add them. Link?
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22:54 jojoa1997 HOLA
22:54 OldCoder jojoa1997, que tal
22:54 OldCoder Quetzlcoatl
22:55 VanessaE OldCoder: see above :-)
22:55 jojoa1997 pmas o menos
22:55 jojoa1997 es menos corecto
22:55 OldCoder jojoa1997, you mean mas o menos I assume
22:55 jojoa1997 yeah
22:55 jojoa1997 i am on my second year of spanish
22:56 sapier1 is there some way to do something on_chunk_load?
22:56 OldCoder VanessaE, I am preoccupied; multiple windows. Any chance of a link?
22:56 OldCoder jojoa1997, muy bien
22:56 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=60331#p60331
22:56 jojoa1997 and am forgeting some first year stuff
22:56 OldCoder VanessaE, ty
22:56 jojoa1997 y tú
22:56 sapier1 i ask because having spawning abm's is heavy load and perlin ain't quite suited for non static entities
22:56 OldCoder gracias
22:58 jojoa1997 yay my recipe is winning go vote for option 1 now http://strawpoll.me/5909/
22:58 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Straw Poll
22:58 jojoa1997 here are the results so far http://strawpoll.me/5909/r
22:58 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Straw Poll
22:58 sapier1 so i added spawner entities ... but those would need to  be updated if world is changed by player ... fixing existing ones ain't a problem but adding new ones where world now matches  their reqirements is difficult
22:59 jojoa1997 OldCoder: I dont know what mythical gems to add to my mod http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4214
22:59 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: [Mod] Display Blocks [1.3] [display_blocks] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
22:59 jojoa1997 do you have any ideas
23:00 jojoa1997 what do you think about having a fire one that doesnt burn of course
23:01 john_minetest Hey, there was a request for an animated mesh chests in mod section.
23:01 john_minetest sounds nice
23:01 john_minetest btw, there should be materials that let fire burn forever
23:02 john_minetest something like this netherstone in minecraft
23:02 jojoa1997 simple look
23:02 jojoa1997 ine sec
23:02 jojoa1997 one
23:02 OldCoder jojoa1997, R
23:02 OldCoder Reviewing
23:02 john_minetest when you set it on fire it will stay burning for ever.
23:03 jojoa1997 this is the code
23:03 jojoa1997 minetest.register_craft({
23:03 jojoa1997 type = "fuel",
23:03 jojoa1997 recipe = "group:tree",
23:03 jojoa1997 burntime = 30,
23:03 jojoa1997 })
23:03 OldCoder jojoa1997, I am no expert on mythical gems but the mod looks fun
23:04 john_minetest no, i mean fire from the [fire] mod in minetest_game
23:04 jojoa1997 thanks i just need a random name with a base color to it
23:04 jojoa1997 oh one sec
23:05 john_minetest jojoa1997: I think wool should be made by crafting something with cotton. So farming mod should go to minetest_game
23:05 sapier1 @marktraceur is GFDL gplv3 compatible? If not still couldn't relicense mobf because of sounds used for some mobs
23:05 john_minetest Or a similar mod.
23:05 jojoa1997 i like the papyrus idea cause it allows you to also make wool in the desert
23:05 jojoa1997 with the dry shrubs
23:06 jojoa1997 about the code i pasted earlier just change the burn time to 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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23:07 john_minetest jojoa1997: I don't mean as fuel but as material that you can set on fire with the fire from [fire] mod in minetest_game.
23:08 jojoa1997 oh
23:08 jojoa1997 idk
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23:13 Exio btw, anyone familiar with minetest code?
23:14 Exio i need an 'explain' about the direction value in camera, because i don't get how 'X' and 'Z' works
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23:18 babyface1031 hi everyone how everyone been
23:18 VanessaE in the game, X and Z are E/W and N/S directions, while Y is up/down
23:18 VanessaE -X is west, -Z is south.
23:18 VanessaE if I remember right :-)
23:18 VanessaE hi babyface1031
23:20 babyface1031 hi VanessaE
23:21 Exio VanessaE: oh
23:21 jojoa1997 what should the shape of the fire gem be
23:21 Exio i think i get the point
23:21 sapier1 but direction is radians
23:21 Exio jojoa1997: lava bucket + something? :P
23:21 VanessaE sapier1: you mean yaw?
23:21 jojoa1997 shape not recipe
23:21 Exio ah
23:21 sapier1 yes aren't you speaking about yaw?
23:22 Exio the direction in the code are 3 numbers between -1 to 1
23:22 VanessaE Ah, you're talking about node-relative coords.
23:22 OldCoder Does anybody have more mods or skins they wish?
23:22 sapier1 I'd need some mob/animal meshes ;)
23:23 Exio skins? is possible to have per user 'skins'?
23:23 VanessaE player_textures mod.
23:23 Exio VanessaE: any ideas?
23:23 Exio *about the direction thing*
23:23 VanessaE Exio: I'm a little confused now.  better defer to sapier :-)
23:23 sapier1 lua or c++ ? {x,y,z}
23:23 Exio C++
23:23 sapier1 ok
23:24 babyface1031 hi OldCoder
23:24 sapier1 different "namespace" :-)
23:24 Exio i'm checking the direction value in the line 87 of clientmap.h
23:25 babyface1031 i havent been on in awhile do we have industral mod?
23:25 OldCoder babyface1031, Hi!
23:25 VanessaE industrial mod?  What would it do?
23:25 OldCoder babyface1031, glad to see you!!
23:26 OldCoder Exio, VanessaE No
23:26 john_minetest bye
23:26 OldCoder Use the skins mod
23:26 sapier1 its a 3d vector
23:26 jojoa1997 how are these OldCoder http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZuOQ/display_blocks_fire_crystal.png
23:26 OldCoder Then you can have 2D and 3D both
23:26 babyface1031 ty alot been going on i am glad things are calming down at home where i can play again
23:26 OldCoder jojoa1997, R
23:26 sapier1 direction is 0,0,0 to x,y,z of dir value
23:26 OldCoder babyface1031, I am updating
23:26 jojoa1997 http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZuYQ/display_blocks_fire_block.png
23:26 OldCoder It will be good
23:26 VanessaE jojoa1997: not bad.
23:26 babyface1031 i will get the link VanessaE
23:26 OldCoder Nice
23:26 jojoa1997 how is the crystal
23:26 OldCoder babyface1031, there will be an IRC channel for the world now
23:27 OldCoder jojoa1997, From what I can see, good
23:27 jojoa1997 is it to bold
23:27 OldCoder can't tell in my browser
23:27 babyface1031 oh there is cool
23:27 jojoa1997 i am thinking about doing all the elements
23:27 OldCoder jojoa1997, By all means
23:27 Exio noone knows? grr
23:28 OldCoder Exio, Read above
23:28 OldCoder Exio, what is your question?
23:28 OldCoder Ah
23:28 OldCoder C++ issue?
23:28 Exio yep
23:28 Exio i was rewriting it :P
23:28 Exio *the question*
23:29 sapier1 @exio I've just told you direction is a 3d vector
23:29 Exio hm
23:29 babyface1031 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 here it is VanessaE
23:29 moltenbot babyface1031's link: [Modpack] Industry Pack 0.1.1 (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
23:29 sapier1 mention an arrow pointing from 0,0,0 to x,y,z while x,y,z are values in dir
23:30 Exio ok
23:30 jojoa1997 what is the name for lava bucket
23:30 Exio thanks, i will check
23:30 jojoa1997 like default:buckect
23:30 VanessaE jojoa1997: bucket:bucket_lava
23:30 jojoa1997 oh thanks
23:30 VanessaE I think
23:30 jojoa1997 well we will see
23:31 jojoa1997 {'', 'default:mese_crystal_fragment', ''}, {'bucket:bucket_lava', 'default:glass', 'bucket:bucket_lava'}, {'', 'bucket:bucket_lava', ''},
23:31 jojoa1997 that is the recipe
23:31 jojoa1997 what should take the place of glass
23:31 VanessaE use a while mese crystal for that one :-)
23:31 VanessaE instead of a fragment
23:31 VanessaE keep the glass
23:32 Exio btw, why not a way to craft mese crytals out of mese fragments?
23:32 jojoa1997 how about switch glass with bucket
23:32 Exio so you can make fragmet a drop of a mob
23:32 VanessaE because there's no crystal I've ever heard of, fictional or real, that could be turned back into a whole crystal by using its pieces.
23:32 Exio fragment*
23:33 VanessaE except for the movie "The Dark Crystal"
23:33 Exio hahaha
23:34 jojoa1997 to make it give 5 blocks would i use this
23:34 jojoa1997 output = 'display_blocks:mese_base 5',
23:34 VanessaE yes
23:34 VanessaE but,
23:34 VanessaE for the actual fire gem, yield only 1.
23:34 VanessaE such a crystal should be expensive.
23:35 jojoa1997 there is no gem that you can get it is just a display
23:35 jojoa1997 the gem goes on top of the base
23:35 jojoa1997 the base spawns the undiggable gem
23:36 VanessaE oh ok
23:36 VanessaE still such a recipe should be very expensive.
23:37 VanessaE three lava buckets, the glass, the mese crystal..  something's missing though
23:37 jojoa1997 i figured out how to make the gem go away after the base is gone and took your advice and made gems undiggable
23:37 jojoa1997 one sec can you look at all my recipes
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23:38 jojoa1997 here is the init download http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZuaQ]http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZuaQ
23:38 jojoa1997 or the code itself
23:39 jojoa1997 really the glass and fire displays are the weak recipes
23:41 jojoa1997 any ideas
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23:43 babyface1031 what is this new mese i am hearing about where can i look it up?
23:43 jojoa1997 it is in the default you just have to download it
23:43 thexyz babyface1031: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game
23:43 moltenbot thexyz's link: celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub
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23:51 jojoa1997 how are these for air
23:51 jojoa1997 http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZubA/display_blocks_air_crystal.png
23:52 jojoa1997 try zooming in
23:52 jojoa1997 http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZubQ][img]http://ompldr.org/tZ3ZubQ
23:52 jojoa1997 lol it looks like it has filters on

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