| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
marktraceur |
Cooool. |
| 00:00 |
ecube |
:) |
| 00:00 |
marktraceur |
Ha, security. |
| 00:01 |
kaeza |
hm? |
| 00:01 |
Jakssoul |
Does Arch support many applications? Or? |
| 00:02 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: Can I nil the password and just allow users to use it automatically? |
| 00:02 |
kaeza |
not yet |
| 00:02 |
kaeza |
but you can give them the pass :) |
| 00:02 |
kaeza |
and make it simple |
| 00:02 |
marktraceur |
I disagree |
| 00:03 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: If I just set marktraceur = true in the table, it should work (from what I can see) |
| 00:03 |
kaeza |
yup |
| 00:03 |
kaeza |
that's also possible |
| 00:03 |
marktraceur |
But it doesn't check for +r? |
| 00:04 |
kaeza |
nope |
| 00:04 |
kaeza |
just basic auth for now |
| 00:04 |
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| 00:04 |
ecube |
basically, name checking? |
| 00:04 |
marktraceur |
Ugh. |
| 00:04 |
marktraceur |
Should be OK for me, I'm always online |
| 00:04 |
kaeza |
ecube: only pass for now |
| 00:04 |
marktraceur |
But imperfect |
| 00:05 |
kaeza |
everyone can be server admin if they know the pass |
| 00:05 |
Exio |
kaeza: make it works with hostmask |
| 00:05 |
ADFENO |
I've just installed Trisquel Brigantia today, and my main system is Debian Squeeze. Err... Apparently the main system is Trisquel Brigantia because GRUB starts from its partition now, although I wasn't asked to decided whenever to overwrite Debian Squeeze's GRUB version or not. :) |
| 00:05 |
Exio |
+s |
| 00:05 |
ecube |
fuq hostmask |
| 00:05 |
kaeza |
hmm |
| 00:06 |
marktraceur |
Oh gods |
| 00:06 |
marktraceur |
The LuaIRC library....doesn't have flags |
| 00:07 |
kaeza |
nope |
| 00:07 |
ecube |
There's an LuaIRC library? |
| 00:07 |
kaeza |
it seems |
| 00:07 |
Exio |
flags? where? |
| 00:07 |
* marktraceur |
runs screaming |
| 00:07 |
ecube |
i thought kaeza was just using luasocket |
| 00:07 |
kaeza |
hmm |
| 00:07 |
* ecube |
reads the code |
| 00:07 |
kaeza |
I should try and patch tht |
| 00:07 |
kaeza |
that* |
| 00:08 |
Jakssoul |
YOU GUYS LIE! |
| 00:08 |
marktraceur |
Jakssoul: What about? |
| 00:08 |
Jakssoul |
I just read the guide to installing Arch Linux, and I am going to have nightmares tonight! |
| 00:08 |
Jakssoul |
xD It is scary! |
| 00:09 |
Exio |
arch is easy to install, really |
| 00:09 |
ecube |
It is for people who have already installed it |
| 00:09 |
ecube |
not for peopel coming from ubuntu |
| 00:09 |
Jakssoul |
EXACTLY. |
| 00:09 |
ecube |
or debian-like systems |
| 00:09 |
mrtux |
^ |
| 00:09 |
Jakssoul |
I mean, I've got 12 or 13 LIVEUSB OS's on my flash drive. |
| 00:10 |
Jakssoul |
None of them were hard to install. |
| 00:10 |
Jakssoul |
Arch? I'm not even going to try. |
| 00:10 |
mrtux |
the install is easy |
| 00:10 |
ADFENO |
I tried to compile Minetest from the source code once again, since the one I tried to run was compiled under Debian Squeeze, and it gave me the same results. |
| 00:11 |
Jakssoul |
Maybe you should just ditch your OS like I did just for Minetest? xD |
| 00:11 |
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| 00:11 |
ecube |
ahahaha |
| 00:11 |
ADFENO |
What do you mean by "ditch"? I don't understand, sorry. |
| 00:11 |
Jakssoul |
I seriously ditched Puppy Linux JUST for Minetest. |
| 00:11 |
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| 00:11 |
Jakssoul |
That's how much I love it. |
| 00:11 |
ecube |
I hate the dpkg system, it's why I switched to arch |
| 00:11 |
Jakssoul |
Get rid of it. I was being sarcastic though. |
| 00:12 |
ADFENO |
Ah... :D |
| 00:12 |
ADFENO |
Just like my friends always say. :D |
| 00:12 |
Exio |
ecube: emerge is better >:D |
| 00:13 |
Exio |
btw, if you have a compilar, you can have minetest everywhere! :P |
| 00:14 |
ADFENO |
Yes... I just tried to recompile it because I'm new compiling things from source. |
| 00:14 |
Exio |
pastebin the error/log |
| 00:14 |
ecube |
Exio: Try running minetest in a computer that was built in minetest |
| 00:14 |
ecube |
:D |
| 00:14 |
Exio |
lol ecube |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
I wonder if mesecons could do that...... |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 00:15 |
ecube |
that is, one that was built with mesecons |
| 00:15 |
ecube |
VanessaE: I saw someone build an ALU in vanilla minecraft |
| 00:15 |
ecube |
if that's possible, doing it in mt certainly is possible |
| 00:15 |
ADFENO |
Here, once again, is the error output: http://pastebin.com/c4qwS5Du |
| 00:15 |
moltenbot |
ADFENO's link: Terminal output when using "./minetest": Irrlicht Engine version 1.7.2 Linux - Pastebin.com |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
I've seen a video of something like that |
| 00:15 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: It didn't work :) |
| 00:15 |
marktraceur |
I'll work on it later |
| 00:15 |
ecube |
The first step is building the flippin' thing |
| 00:16 |
ecube |
then install arch on it |
| 00:17 |
Exio |
ADFENO: btw, that looks like a driver issue, what graphic card do you have? and what driver are you using? |
| 00:17 |
Kacey |
im making a 4 bit decoder to 7 segment led display |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: already been done. |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
(cornernote) |
| 00:18 |
Kacey |
but im doing it into a led display |
| 00:18 |
ecube |
haha |
| 00:19 |
Kacey |
and then going to link mulitple ones to make a calculator |
| 00:19 |
ecube |
Kacey: Challenge: install X on it |
| 00:19 |
Kacey |
done lol |
| 00:19 |
ecube |
how |
| 00:20 |
ADFENO |
I have a NVidia GeForce GT 430, using the Nouveau module. |
| 00:20 |
Exio |
did you try using the closed driver/module? |
| 00:20 |
Kacey |
chuck norris |
| 00:21 |
Exio |
or, as you are using old squeeze, with a newer nouveau? maybe some issue fixed a long ago |
| 00:21 |
ADFENO |
No... Since I had some video issues or kernel panics when using it one year ago. |
| 00:21 |
ADFENO |
So... I'm not going to make the same mistake again. |
| 00:21 |
Exio |
btw, one year is a lot of time |
| 00:22 |
ADFENO |
Also: I do not like Nvidias approach to much, I think their drivers are almost needless. :D |
| 00:23 |
ADFENO |
It's indeed strange... though... |
| 00:24 |
Kacey |
alright the decoder is built |
| 00:24 |
ADFENO |
The Nouveau module from Debian Squeeze runs Minetest just fine. |
| 00:24 |
Kacey |
no to code it... |
| 00:25 |
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| 00:28 |
NakedFury |
dammit sound isnt coming out from the speakers |
| 00:28 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: Just hack around it, use your hard drives to generate sound |
| 00:32 |
Kacey |
im using cornernote's diagram to make the decoder |
| 00:35 |
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| 00:37 |
jojoa1997 |
To everyone who was helping me last night with the github stuff. i got it working. the default spot for my files was on a flashdrive not on my pc. |
| 00:37 |
jojoa1997 |
so when it was updateing there was nothing in the github folder |
| 00:37 |
jojoa1997 |
and the gui works fine thank you all |
| 00:38 |
kaeza |
jojoa1997: good |
| 00:38 |
kaeza |
and thanks :) |
| 00:38 |
kaeza |
s/thanks/you're welcome/ |
| 00:38 |
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| 00:39 |
jojoa1997 |
why do you keep typing "s/'something'/'something'" |
| 00:39 |
marktraceur |
jojoa1997: It's called a regular expression |
| 00:39 |
* Jakssoul |
is wondering why nobody likes pulp in orange juice. |
| 00:40 |
* jojoa1997 |
is drinking pulpy orange juice right now and is loving it |
| 00:40 |
Kacey |
it now counts up to (1) |
| 00:40 |
* Jakssoul |
high fives jojoa1997. |
| 00:41 |
* jojoa1997 |
high fives Jakssoul back |
| 00:41 |
Jakssoul |
Haha. |
| 00:41 |
jojoa1997 |
can anyone make a review for my two mods |
| 00:42 |
Jakssoul |
What mods do you have? |
| 00:42 |
jojoa1997 |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4167 |
| 00:42 |
moltenbot |
jojoa1997's link: [Mod] Peaceful NPC [1.3] [peaceful_npc] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 00:42 |
jojoa1997 |
peaceful npc |
| 00:42 |
Jakssoul |
Ohhh! |
| 00:42 |
jojoa1997 |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4214 |
| 00:42 |
moltenbot |
jojoa1997's link: [Mod] Display Blocks [1.1] [display_blocks] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
| 00:42 |
jojoa1997 |
display blocks |
| 00:42 |
BackupCoder |
hi |
| 00:42 |
kaeza |
hi backup |
| 00:42 |
kaeza |
... |
| 00:43 |
kaeza |
fck tab completion |
| 00:43 |
kaeza |
hi BackupCoder |
| 00:43 |
Jakssoul |
I can't get your Peaceful NPC mod to work for me, so, yup! xD |
| 00:43 |
jojoa1997 |
they both are good ones but i really want the display blocks to be reviewed cause that is mainly my code |
| 00:43 |
BackupCoder |
o/ |
| 00:43 |
kaeza |
\o |
| 00:43 |
jojoa1997 |
try downloading 1.3 or go to the github |
| 00:43 |
jojoa1997 |
i just updated like 5 minutes ago |
| 00:44 |
jojoa1997 |
does anyone have any suggestions for the display mod |
| 00:44 |
ADFENO |
Does all the mods work on Minetest 0.4.3? Can I still connect to servers which run 0.4.4, using 0.4.3? |
| 00:44 |
Jakssoul |
Why would you do that? |
| 00:44 |
jojoa1997 |
it only works on 0.4.4 |
| 00:44 |
marktraceur |
I think you can, though |
| 00:45 |
marktraceur |
It just won't have all the features |
| 00:45 |
jojoa1997 |
it is 3d and has animations |
| 00:45 |
jojoa1997 |
it is like the 0.4.4 players |
| 00:45 |
ADFENO |
Well, I think I'll try compiling Min etest 0.4.3 and see if it works here. |
| 00:45 |
Jakssoul |
I was talking to ADFENO. |
| 00:45 |
Kacey |
it now counts to 2!!!!!!! |
| 00:46 |
Jakssoul |
Anybody know of any other good Free Linux Games? |
| 00:46 |
Jakssoul |
Has anybody ever tried OpenMW? |
| 00:46 |
ADFENO |
What does "MW" stands for? |
| 00:46 |
jojoa1997 |
mineworld |
| 00:46 |
kaeza |
Jakssoul: OpenTTD FTW! |
| 00:47 |
Jakssoul |
It's the third installation of the Elder Scrolls series. |
| 00:47 |
Kacey |
UNTANGLE FTW!!!!!!! |
| 00:47 |
Jakssoul |
NO! Not MineWorld. |
| 00:47 |
Jakssoul |
Morrowind or whatever. |
| 00:47 |
Jakssoul |
OpenTTD? |
| 00:47 |
kaeza |
a FLOSS version of Transport Tycoon Deluxe |
| 00:47 |
Jakssoul |
That looks... like it isn't my cup of tea. |
| 00:47 |
jojoa1997 |
mineworld was a joke mc=minecaft, mt=minetest \o/, mw=mineworld |
| 00:48 |
Jakssoul |
Any other suggestions? |
| 00:48 |
ADFENO |
Well... If it doesn't require proprietary software, then I should try it. |
| 00:48 |
* ADFENO |
takes note of OpenMW. |
| 00:48 |
kaeza |
Jakssoul: http://lgdb.com |
| 00:48 |
Jakssoul |
According to the main site for it, "You must own Morrowind blah blah" |
| 00:48 |
kaeza |
Jakssoul: http://lgdb.org |
| 00:48 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: Linux game database | Database for native Linux games |
| 00:48 |
Jakssoul |
It requires proprietary software, I'm sure. |
| 00:48 |
jojoa1997 |
going onto pc cya |
| 00:49 |
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| 00:49 |
jojoa1997_ |
i am back4 |
| 00:49 |
ADFENO |
Ah... then I'm out from it, no way! Blah... :( |
| 00:49 |
marktraceur |
Jakssoul: OpenArena, Red Eclipse, HedgeWars, Ryzom |
| 00:49 |
marktraceur |
(just a few) |
| 00:49 |
jojoa1997_ |
*back |
| 00:49 |
Jakssoul |
Sorry, things I can play OFFLINE as well? |
| 00:49 |
marktraceur |
Ryzom is....edgy, but I think technically free |
| 00:50 |
Jakssoul |
marktraceur, any of those offline? |
| 00:50 |
marktraceur |
Jakssoul: In theory all of them, but you'd need to run a local server for OA and Ryzom |
| 00:50 |
ADFENO |
Armagetron Advanced? |
| 00:50 |
Jakssoul |
I always forget to mention my offline-neediness. |
| 00:50 |
marktraceur |
Jakssoul: I enjoy Pioneers as well |
| 00:50 |
Jakssoul |
I LOVE Armagetron Advanced. |
| 00:50 |
kaeza |
Jakssoul: http://allegro.cc |
| 00:51 |
Jakssoul |
How is Red Eclipse, marktraceur ? |
| 00:51 |
ADFENO |
Welll... The Allegro community has some impressive games. |
| 00:51 |
Kacey |
counts to 3 now |
| 00:51 |
kaeza |
Kacey: ? |
| 00:51 |
jojoa1997_ |
can someone kick jojoa1997 i dont know why my pc is having 2 accounts on |
| 00:51 |
jojoa1997_ |
the one without the underscore |
| 00:51 |
Kacey |
making a 4-bit decoder |
| 00:52 |
kaeza |
ah |
| 00:52 |
Kacey |
ya |
| 00:52 |
Exio |
xonotic ftw! |
| 00:52 |
leo_rockway |
are we listing free games? |
| 00:52 |
Kacey |
but im not doing bad |
| 00:52 |
leo_rockway |
Warzone2100 |
| 00:52 |
kaeza |
leo_rockway: +1 |
| 00:52 |
Jakssoul |
Yes we are, for Jakssoul -ey boy. |
| 00:52 |
Exio |
warzone is more than a game |
| 00:52 |
Kacey |
3 in around 30 minutes not bad at all |
| 00:52 |
leo_rockway |
Battle for Wesnoth |
| 00:52 |
Jakssoul |
Is Warzone2100 able to be played offline? |
| 00:53 |
Jakssoul |
As well as BfW? |
| 00:53 |
kaeza |
Jakssoul: yes |
| 00:53 |
Jakssoul |
Awessomeeee. |
| 00:53 |
ADFENO |
BZFlag, but I don't know if you can add bots to play with. |
| 00:53 |
kaeza |
IDK about BFw |
| 00:53 |
Jakssoul |
I've got like, ten games to download. |
| 00:53 |
Exio |
multiplayer is a lot of better |
| 00:53 |
Exio |
:P like everygame |
| 00:53 |
Jakssoul |
I can't play online much. |
| 00:53 |
Exio |
why? |
| 00:53 |
kaeza |
anyone ever played 0verkill? |
| 00:53 |
Jakssoul |
I rip off my neighbors connection and have to stand awkwardly to use it. |
| 00:53 |
Jakssoul |
(They know I do, it's okay.) |
| 00:53 |
ADFENO |
You could also try emulationg games with Mednafen. |
| 00:54 |
Exio |
lol |
| 00:54 |
leo_rockway |
Jakssoul: BfW is a turn based strategy game. WZ2.1k is rts. |
| 00:54 |
BackupCoder |
oops |
| 00:54 |
BackupCoder |
typo |
| 00:54 |
Jakssoul |
Mednafen? Will it play Pokemon? :P |
| 00:54 |
Jakssoul |
I see it lists gameboy games as a possibility. |
| 00:54 |
leo_rockway |
supertuxkart <3 |
| 00:54 |
ADFENO |
I don't know.. But I like to play Harvest Moon Friends of Mineral Town on it. |
| 00:55 |
Jakssoul |
I remember, like, a decade ago, playing the old Pokemon games. |
| 00:55 |
kaeza |
Jakssoul: ZSNES? |
| 00:55 |
kaeza |
epsxe? |
| 00:55 |
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| 00:55 |
Jakssoul |
I lost like, at least 3 years on them. |
| 00:55 |
kaeza |
Mupen 64? |
| 00:55 |
Jakssoul |
CALM DOWN HERE! |
| 00:55 |
Jakssoul |
kaeza, can you PM me all of this? |
| 00:55 |
ADFENO |
Wow. |
| 00:55 |
Jakssoul |
Wow = ? |
| 00:55 |
ADFENO |
StepMania. |
| 00:56 |
Exio |
jojoa1997_tablet: android tablet? install some native client (like yaaic) |
| 00:56 |
ADFENO |
"Wow" is the same thing as "LOL", just more formal. |
| 00:56 |
Exio |
lmao |
| 00:56 |
Exio |
>:D |
| 00:56 |
jojoa1997_tablet |
what do you mean native client |
| 00:56 |
leo_rockway |
Frets on Fire |
| 00:56 |
Exio |
leo_rockway: FoFix! |
| 00:56 |
leo_rockway |
or that |
| 00:57 |
Exio |
jojoa1997_tablet: running without webbrowser :P |
| 00:57 |
leo_rockway |
freeciv, freecol |
| 00:57 |
leo_rockway |
freedoom |
| 00:57 |
Kacey |
now on to 4 |
| 00:57 |
leo_rockway |
freerpg |
| 00:57 |
ADFENO |
PCSXR (PlayStation emulator). |
| 00:57 |
Exio |
gens! |
| 00:57 |
Exio |
Sega Genesis Emulator <3 |
| 00:57 |
leo_rockway |
minetest! |
| 00:58 |
ADFENO |
FreeDoom, what a hard and epic game. :D |
| 00:58 |
Exio |
hahaha |
| 00:58 |
Jakssoul |
FreeDoom requires the xyzblahblah from real Doom. |
| 00:58 |
leo_rockway |
Jakssoul: it doesn't need anything from Doom, AFAIK. |
| 00:58 |
FreeFull |
Basically, ID gave away the source code but not the actual game data |
| 00:59 |
Jakssoul |
Uhm? Not from what I've read? |
| 00:59 |
leo_rockway |
FreeFull: FreeDoom IS the actual game data. |
| 00:59 |
FreeFull |
So you need to either make your own game data or get it from the original game |
| 00:59 |
* ADFENO |
agrees with leo_rockway. |
| 00:59 |
FreeFull |
Ah |
| 00:59 |
Jakssoul |
That's what I was saying. |
| 00:59 |
leo_rockway |
the engine I used was prboom. |
| 00:59 |
ADFENO |
Me too. |
| 00:59 |
Exio |
Jakssoul: ioquake3? :P |
| 00:59 |
Jakssoul |
? |
| 00:59 |
FreeFull |
Jakssoul: Yes mednafen will play pokemon |
| 00:59 |
Jakssoul |
YES! :D |
| 00:59 |
FreeFull |
Except for the DS ones |
| 00:59 |
Jakssoul |
Definitely getting mednafen. |
| 01:00 |
Jakssoul |
Time for some Emerald! xD |
| 01:00 |
marktraceur |
Jakssoul: I haven't played it, but heard good things |
| 01:00 |
ADFENO |
For the Nintendo DS, try DeSmuME. |
| 01:00 |
FreeFull |
It will play the GB/GBC/GBA pokemon fine |
| 01:00 |
leo_rockway |
I can't wait to see a FreeDoom3, although I probably couldn't play it with my GPU. |
| 01:00 |
ADFENO |
I think the same, leo_rockway |
| 01:00 |
ADFENO |
*. |
| 01:00 |
Kacey |
4 is done now |
| 01:01 |
Jakssoul |
Any of these games in the Ubuntu Software Center? (Since there are so many recommendations, I feel it would be much easier to get them through it) |
| 01:01 |
ADFENO |
Especially if the Nouveau module gives me problems like this one which I'm having with Minetest under Trisquel Brigantia. |
| 01:02 |
kaeza |
Jakssoul: TeeWorlds |
| 01:02 |
Jakssoul |
Getting FreeDoom as well as Warzone2100 now. |
| 01:02 |
Jakssoul |
Damn, my neighbors should be very glad they have unlimited Data. xD |
| 01:02 |
leo_rockway |
TeeWorlds +1 |
| 01:03 |
Jakssoul |
What is TeeWorlds? |
| 01:03 |
kaeza |
neighbors killing Jakssoul in 3...2...1... |
| 01:03 |
Jakssoul |
After installing FreeDoom, it looks like I need an.. IWAD? |
| 01:03 |
Jakssoul |
What do I do with prboom? |
| 01:03 |
leo_rockway |
Jakssoul: either 2D Quake or real time Worms... |
| 01:03 |
leo_rockway |
prboom is the engine, freedom is the iwad. |
| 01:03 |
Jakssoul |
I am being overloaded here. |
| 01:03 |
Jakssoul |
What is TeeWorlds? |
| 01:04 |
leo_rockway |
2D Quake, or real time Worms |
| 01:04 |
leo_rockway |
that's the best description I can come up with. |
| 01:04 |
Jakssoul |
I don't understand. xD |
| 01:04 |
kaeza |
well, counting SNES+GB[C|A]+NES+PSX games, you have like 128945354695 ones |
| 01:04 |
leo_rockway |
little kirby-like entities fighting to death |
| 01:04 |
Jakssoul |
Got it. |
| 01:04 |
BackupCoder |
jack kirby? |
| 01:04 |
kaeza |
Kirby +1 |
| 01:04 |
ADFENO |
PrBoom = Engine; FreeDoom = IWAD. |
| 01:04 |
ADFENO |
To run the game, run PrBoom. |
| 01:05 |
BackupCoder |
++ |
| 01:05 |
Jakssoul |
Thanks, ADFENO . |
| 01:05 |
BackupCoder |
wait |
| 01:05 |
leo_rockway |
Jakssoul: http://youtu.be/Ff-Pi7RD9pM |
| 01:05 |
moltenbot |
leo_rockway's link: Teeworlds Gameplay - YouTube |
| 01:05 |
ADFENO |
You're welcome. |
| 01:05 |
BackupCoder |
check out my prboom framework |
| 01:05 |
kaeza |
BackupCoder: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirby's_Adventure |
| 01:05 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: Kirby's Adventure - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| 01:05 |
ADFENO |
Hedgewars is also a good call... Warmux/Wormux too. |
| 01:05 |
BackupCoder |
I can link later |
| 01:06 |
leo_rockway |
ADFENO: yup, those are good. |
| 01:06 |
Jakssoul |
I just entered my root password (That I use for EVERYTHING) into this IRC window when it was requested for installing an application. |
| 01:06 |
leo_rockway |
Secret Maryo Chronicles and Super Tux... |
| 01:06 |
Jakssoul |
I almost hit enter. I would've died. |
| 01:06 |
ecube |
well you didn't hit enter |
| 01:06 |
Jakssoul |
Luckily. |
| 01:07 |
ADFENO |
Let's see... Where is my softawre prefferences list... Got it... Games... games... games... |
| 01:07 |
kaeza |
ADFENO: same here :D |
| 01:07 |
leo_rockway |
then there are some good CLI games o.o |
| 01:08 |
Jakssoul |
CLI? |
| 01:08 |
leo_rockway |
like nethack or liberal crime squad |
| 01:08 |
leo_rockway |
Jakssoul: terminal. |
| 01:08 |
BackupCoder |
cmdline |
| 01:08 |
ADFENO |
Command Line Interface. |
| 01:08 |
Jakssoul |
Oh okay. |
| 01:08 |
Kacey |
5 is done |
| 01:08 |
kaeza |
Jakssoul, leo_rockway: http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~brain/0verkill/ |
| 01:08 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: 0VERKILL - hell in ASCII |
| 01:08 |
leo_rockway |
nethack is the most complex and difficult game, and entertaining there is. |
| 01:08 |
Jakssoul |
Looking into it now. |
| 01:08 |
BackupCoder |
see mine |
| 01:08 |
leo_rockway |
kaeza: I think I tried that one o.o |
| 01:08 |
Jakssoul |
leo_rockway, and kaeza . |
| 01:09 |
Kacey |
a third of the way done |
| 01:09 |
leo_rockway |
Tremulous (although it's dead and replaced by some fork, which I can't remember the name of) |
| 01:09 |
kaeza |
Jakssoul: also try Iter Vehemens Ad Necen |
| 01:09 |
Jakssoul |
Tremulous is a no-go. |
| 01:10 |
kaeza |
(IVAN) |
| 01:10 |
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| 01:10 |
leo_rockway |
Jakssoul: why? |
| 01:10 |
Jakssoul |
I looked it up, it's too heavily based on online-play. |
| 01:10 |
leo_rockway |
oh, right. Yes, only online. |
| 01:10 |
leo_rockway |
but then again, so is TeeWars |
| 01:10 |
leo_rockway |
or TeeWorlds, or whatever the current name is. |
| 01:10 |
Jakssoul |
That's not an option either then. |
| 01:11 |
Jakssoul |
Not willing to stand all day to play a game. xD |
| 01:11 |
leo_rockway |
secretmaryo |
| 01:11 |
leo_rockway |
I like that one |
| 01:11 |
Jakssoul |
That's why I'm rarely online on Minetest. But, I have a bada** offline world. |
| 01:11 |
Jakssoul |
I will look up secretmaryo |
| 01:11 |
codile_ |
ah, teeworlds is also cool |
| 01:11 |
leo_rockway |
secretmaryo.org |
| 01:11 |
leo_rockway |
Jakssoul: I forgot you were looking for offline ones. |
| 01:12 |
Jakssoul |
Question: |
| 01:12 |
Jakssoul |
Installing PrBoom and FreeDoom from the Ubuntu Software Center ended with me getting both of those things. BUT, |
| 01:12 |
Jakssoul |
It came with the "Vavoom Launcher" to launch the game. |
| 01:12 |
Jakssoul |
I have no idea how to use it. Anybody? |
| 01:12 |
leo_rockway |
never heard of vavoom o.o |
| 01:12 |
leo_rockway |
I just run prboom |
| 01:12 |
Jakssoul |
It's a bra size. xD |
| 01:13 |
leo_rockway |
xD |
| 01:13 |
Jakssoul |
Or type, style. |
| 01:13 |
Jakssoul |
Something. |
| 01:13 |
kaeza |
hey I like Vavoom |
| 01:13 |
Jakssoul |
The launcher? |
| 01:13 |
iqualfragile |
Jakssoul: why do you care about that stuff? |
| 01:13 |
Jakssoul |
Care about what stuff? |
| 01:13 |
kaeza |
it's one of the few that have mouse pitch control |
| 01:13 |
Jakssoul |
HOW DO I USE IT, kaeza??? |
| 01:13 |
Jakssoul |
xD |
| 01:14 |
Kacey |
6 is done |
| 01:14 |
leo_rockway |
Jakssoul: if you like RTS, Warzone2100 is the one I'd check out first. It has an amazing way to handle units. |
| 01:14 |
leo_rockway |
you design all the units. |
| 01:14 |
Jakssoul |
I am looking into it. |
| 01:15 |
Jakssoul |
As well as NetHack. |
| 01:15 |
leo_rockway |
and the campaign is quite good |
| 01:15 |
leo_rockway |
nethack is very difficult. Keep in mind that "dying is fun" while you play. |
| 01:15 |
Jakssoul |
Hahaha, alrighty. |
| 01:15 |
codile_ |
mangband is also cool |
| 01:15 |
Jakssoul |
mangband? |
| 01:15 |
leo_rockway |
is that the tolkien based nethack? |
| 01:15 |
codile_ |
its a multiplayer online rougelike |
| 01:16 |
Jakssoul |
No tengo INTERNET! |
| 01:16 |
codile_ |
it's tolkien based yes |
| 01:16 |
kaeza |
Jakssoul: http://ivan.sourceforge.net/ |
| 01:16 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: Iter Vehemens ad Necem - Index |
| 01:16 |
Jakssoul |
codile_ online games aren't an option. |
| 01:16 |
codile_ |
oh, then try nethack ;) |
| 01:16 |
codile_ |
or angband. the single player version |
| 01:16 |
Jakssoul |
Installing X Nethack now. |
| 01:16 |
codile_ |
or dungeon crawl stone soup |
| 01:17 |
leo_rockway |
liberal crime squad, unless you're under 21... |
| 01:17 |
leo_rockway |
it's very violent and graphical, although it's CLI based o.o |
| 01:17 |
Jakssoul |
What does being 21 have to do with anything? |
| 01:17 |
leo_rockway |
Jakssoul: in liberal crime squad you set up a squad of terrorists |
| 01:17 |
Jakssoul |
That's fantastic. xD |
| 01:17 |
codile_ |
:P |
| 01:18 |
codile_ |
you can also try dwarffortress |
| 01:18 |
leo_rockway |
and you try to overthrow a conservative government |
| 01:18 |
leo_rockway |
it's a parody |
| 01:18 |
codile_ |
but it isn't open source :( |
| 01:18 |
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| 01:18 |
leo_rockway |
is dwarf fortress free? |
| 01:18 |
Jakssoul |
That's awesome. |
| 01:18 |
leo_rockway |
yeah, that's what I thought :S |
| 01:18 |
codile_ |
free but open source |
| 01:18 |
codile_ |
free as in free beer :P |
| 01:18 |
leo_rockway |
I use free as in freedom, not as in beer |
| 01:18 |
Jakssoul |
I just installed like, 8 applications. xD |
| 01:18 |
codile_ |
but you won't know what's in your beer :D |
| 01:19 |
codile_ |
so there could be poison inside :P |
| 01:19 |
leo_rockway |
it's a good thing I don't drink o.o |
| 01:19 |
codile_ |
:D |
| 01:19 |
ADFENO |
Wow. |
| 01:19 |
codile_ |
which ones? ^^ |
| 01:20 |
Kacey |
7 is done 8 more to go |
| 01:20 |
ADFENO |
Here is a list of the games I usually play: http://pastebin.com/89g92nQR |
| 01:20 |
moltenbot |
ADFENO's link: Abuse AisleRiot Anagramarama Armagetron Advanced Battle for Wesnoth BZFlag - Pastebin.com |
| 01:21 |
kaeza |
Anagramarama FTW!! |
| 01:21 |
ADFENO |
I forgot to add ZSNES though. |
| 01:21 |
kaeza |
hmm... how is it I don't have it installed yet?... |
| 01:21 |
Jakssoul |
Someone else did it for you. |
| 01:22 |
codile_ |
i think i missed something. so you're looking for games you can play offline? |
| 01:22 |
Jakssoul |
Yes sir! |
| 01:22 |
codile_ |
okay |
| 01:22 |
Jakssoul |
Minetest can get old after 5 hours straight. :P But it's always good the next day. |
| 01:22 |
codile_ |
ADFENO: Armagetron Advanced is a good joice ;D |
| 01:22 |
Jakssoul |
I love AA. |
| 01:22 |
ADFENO |
Yeah... I agree. |
| 01:23 |
leo_rockway |
neverball |
| 01:23 |
leo_rockway |
neverball is basically super monkey ball |
| 01:23 |
ADFENO |
Specially the bot names. Excel keeps doing tiny squares around me. :D |
| 01:23 |
leo_rockway |
and neverputt, it's golf with the same engine. |
| 01:23 |
codile_ |
:D |
| 01:24 |
codile_ |
or freedroidrpg |
| 01:24 |
iqualfragile |
Battle for Wesnoth!! |
| 01:24 |
Jakssoul |
I just went from 5 gigs of freespace on my HDD to 1.7GB. |
| 01:24 |
Jakssoul |
xD |
| 01:24 |
codile_ |
also a nice choice |
| 01:24 |
Jakssoul |
I will check it out as well. |
| 01:24 |
leo_rockway |
BoW is def god |
| 01:24 |
leo_rockway |
good* |
| 01:24 |
iqualfragile |
and freeciv |
| 01:25 |
codile_ |
omfg i wrote choice with j >.< |
| 01:25 |
iqualfragile |
i like taht stuff |
| 01:25 |
Jakssoul |
Yes you did. |
| 01:25 |
iqualfragile |
hmm… my hdd is full too |
| 01:25 |
Jakssoul |
I only have an 8gig HDD. |
| 01:25 |
Jakssoul |
Crappy netbook! |
| 01:25 |
codile_ |
finally |
| 01:25 |
Jakssoul |
Be right back. |
| 01:25 |
iqualfragile |
nah, i have ~300gb |
| 01:25 |
codile_ |
finally they fixed the savegame bug |
| 01:25 |
iqualfragile |
but its full anyways |
| 01:25 |
ADFENO |
That's why I still love the heavy computer gabinets. :D |
| 01:26 |
iqualfragile |
am thinking about using some strange overlay-filesystem to extend capacity |
| 01:26 |
kaeza |
~500GB on desktop :D |
| 01:26 |
Kacey |
8 works |
| 01:26 |
codile_ |
lvm :P |
| 01:26 |
kaeza |
~499 are pr0n... |
| 01:26 |
iqualfragile |
http://www.fsl.cs.sunysb.edu/project-unionfs.html |
| 01:26 |
moltenbot |
iqualfragile's link: Unionfs: A Stackable Unification File System |
| 01:27 |
leo_rockway |
supertuxkart, supertux, battle for wesnoth, secret maryo chronicles, warzone2100, nethack, liberal crime squad, freeciv, freecol, armagetron, freedoom |
| 01:27 |
leo_rockway |
get all those, now! o.o |
| 01:27 |
ADFENO |
Wow. |
| 01:27 |
iqualfragile |
leo_rockway: freecol? |
| 01:27 |
iqualfragile |
did not know that |
| 01:27 |
codile_ |
dungeon crawl stone soup and angband |
| 01:27 |
kaeza |
ZSNES fceux epsxe SuperTuxKart TeeWorlds |
| 01:27 |
codile_ |
teeworlds is online :P |
| 01:27 |
kaeza |
and soon Anagramarama :D |
| 01:27 |
iqualfragile |
and i just got the freedoom joke for the first time |
| 01:27 |
codile_ |
unless you start a local zombie server :P |
| 01:28 |
codile_ |
which joke? |
| 01:28 |
iqualfragile |
free doom |
| 01:28 |
codile_ |
:D |
| 01:28 |
kaeza |
... |
| 01:28 |
ADFENO |
Hahaha. |
| 01:28 |
codile_ |
that's genius |
| 01:28 |
leo_rockway |
iqualfragile: freecol is to colonization what freeciv is to civilization. Although freecol is java :S |
| 01:28 |
Jakssoul |
My HDD is really about to be filled up. |
| 01:28 |
ADFENO |
Just like "merry grav-mass". :D |
| 01:28 |
iqualfragile |
never played colonization |
| 01:28 |
Jakssoul |
Looks like it is time to delete the pr0n... |
| 01:29 |
Jakssoul |
KIDDING. |
| 01:29 |
Jakssoul |
:D |
| 01:29 |
iqualfragile |
sudo apt-get install freecol |
| 01:29 |
Jakssoul |
(I would never do that!) |
| 01:29 |
Jakssoul |
Kidding again. |
| 01:29 |
iqualfragile |
Jakssoul: more like time to buy a new hdd |
| 01:29 |
Jakssoul |
xD |
| 01:29 |
Jakssoul |
I wouldn't pay for a new HDD for this thing! |
| 01:29 |
Jakssoul |
Unless somebody gave me 2GB RAM for it. |
| 01:29 |
leo_rockway |
iqualfragile: you have found a colony and declare independence from Europe. You commerce with natives and with Europe... |
| 01:29 |
Jakssoul |
Which is $25. I won't pay for that either. |
| 01:30 |
iqualfragile |
kindof like round-based anno? |
| 01:30 |
codile_ |
domination is also nice |
| 01:30 |
codile_ |
but not if you play it against the ai :P |
| 01:30 |
ADFENO |
I need to go now... I must test the sound configuration here to see how many sound souices I can play, and with which order. |
| 01:30 |
Kacey |
bbl |
| 01:30 |
leo_rockway |
iqualfragile: I tried unknown horizons, which is free anno... it's kind of like that. |
| 01:30 |
iqualfragile |
btw @anno: http://www.unknown-horizons.org/ |
| 01:30 |
leo_rockway |
iqualfragile: but closer to Civ. |
| 01:31 |
Jakssoul |
OKAY! So, |
| 01:31 |
iqualfragile |
well, seems like we kindof had the same idea… |
| 01:31 |
leo_rockway |
I like that they changed the name of unknown horizons... open anno sounded terrible o.o |
| 01:31 |
codile_ |
you also want to install unknown horizons for sure ;D |
| 01:31 |
Jakssoul |
Anyone know how big the Warzone2100 file is? |
| 01:31 |
Minetest-tan |
GIT: Splizard (Splizard) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Run nodeupdate() after burning nodes. deb39ddcd4 2012-12-27T17:30:52-08:00 |
| 01:31 |
iqualfragile |
warzone is big |
| 01:31 |
Jakssoul |
68MB. |
| 01:31 |
kaeza |
leo_rockway: al menos en español :P |
| 01:31 |
leo_rockway |
last time I tried unknown horizons it wasn't really complete yet. |
| 01:31 |
ADFENO |
Bye everybory. |
| 01:31 |
Jakssoul |
THat's not big. |
| 01:31 |
leo_rockway |
kaeza: sÃ, jeje. |
| 01:31 |
Jakssoul |
Bye, ADFENO . |
| 01:31 |
iqualfragile |
round of unknown horizons anyone? |
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| 01:32 |
iqualfragile |
im gona host |
| 01:32 |
leo_rockway |
I can't play anything :S |
| 01:32 |
Jakssoul |
Is Unknown Horizons offline-able? xD I know that's not a word. |
| 01:32 |
iqualfragile |
yes it is |
| 01:33 |
Jakssoul |
Downloading now. xD |
| 01:33 |
Jakssoul |
I'm just going to clog my netbook with every game I can, then delete what I don't like. |
| 01:33 |
leo_rockway |
the videos of Warzone are heavy... like 500mb or so, but they are optional. |
| 01:34 |
Jakssoul |
leo_rockway, What are you talking about? |
| 01:34 |
Jakssoul |
Videos? |
| 01:34 |
leo_rockway |
Warzone2100 has videos for the campaign |
| 01:34 |
leo_rockway |
they can be downloaded from their website |
| 01:34 |
Jakssoul |
Screw that! |
| 01:35 |
Jakssoul |
That's like, 2 years of pr0n! (I should probably stop the porn jokes. Roflmfao) |
| 01:35 |
leo_rockway |
well, they are nice vids o.o |
| 01:35 |
Exio |
the last time i checked they had download for 'LQ' 'Normal' and 'HD' videos (500 == HD, 100 == LQ, iirc) |
| 01:35 |
Exio |
and they are fully optional |
| 01:35 |
iqualfragile |
they have some interesting branches in warzone but they dont get merged into main it seems |
| 01:35 |
Exio |
Jakssoul: btw, i'm playing in a netbook |
| 01:35 |
leo_rockway |
Exio: oh, right. It was HD 900, HQ 500 and LQ 100. |
| 01:36 |
Jakssoul |
Exio, how much RAM have you got? |
| 01:36 |
leo_rockway |
iqualfragile: they are working on the new version, still. |
| 01:36 |
leo_rockway |
and yes, the branches look very interesting. |
| 01:36 |
Exio |
1GB |
| 01:36 |
Jakssoul |
Oh, nice. |
| 01:36 |
Exio |
intel atom n270 1.66GHz (one core / 2 threads [HT]) |
| 01:36 |
Jakssoul |
I've only got 512MB. :( |
| 01:36 |
Exio |
160 GB harddisk |
| 01:36 |
Jakssoul |
What model? |
| 01:37 |
leo_rockway |
Warzone was a proprietary game at the end of the 90s. It doesn't require a lot. |
| 01:37 |
kaeza |
leo_rockway: I had it for the PSX ^_^ |
| 01:37 |
Jakssoul |
Unknown Horizons is 90MBs. |
| 01:37 |
Jakssoul |
>_< |
| 01:37 |
Exio |
i don't remember the exactly model, but it is some AAO (Acer Aspire One :P) |
| 01:37 |
Jakssoul |
I used to have one of those. |
| 01:37 |
leo_rockway |
Jakssoul: you could get scummvm and play beneath a steel sky or flight of the amazon queen... |
| 01:37 |
Jakssoul |
It was stolen from me. |
| 01:38 |
Jakssoul |
Which fall into what category? |
| 01:38 |
Exio |
Jakssoul: if you want a small game, install xonotic! >:D |
| 01:38 |
iqualfragile |
now i have it |
| 01:38 |
leo_rockway |
graphical adventure (think monkey island) |
| 01:38 |
Jakssoul |
Xonotic? |
| 01:38 |
iqualfragile |
you wont get that to run on such a crappy netbook |
| 01:38 |
leo_rockway |
Xonotic won't run on that |
| 01:38 |
leo_rockway |
and offline Xonotic is kind of lame |
| 01:38 |
kaeza |
Jakssoul: or try DOSBox + http://dosgames.com |
| 01:38 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: Free games: Download over 600 DOS games. Shareware and freeware, reviews, help getting games working! |
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| 01:38 |
Exio |
it works with 40~50 FPS here :P |
| 01:38 |
Jakssoul |
I have DosBox! |
| 01:38 |
Jakssoul |
I just don't know how to get the games on it! |
| 01:38 |
Jakssoul |
Hahaha. |
| 01:39 |
Exio |
and well, yeah, xonotic in SP is lame :P |
| 01:39 |
Exio |
but i was just joking because he wants some 'small game' |
| 01:39 |
leo_rockway |
Jakssoul: you can play all the lucas arts graphical adventures, but you'd have to download them from somewhere else, since they aren't free. but the virtual machine is. |
| 01:39 |
kaeza |
Jakssoul: you must "MOUNT" a directory |
| 01:39 |
iqualfragile |
oh, wow, techtree: https://guide.wz2100.net/r/tech-tree |
| 01:39 |
kaeza |
Jakssoul: PM |
| 01:39 |
moltenbot |
iqualfragile's link: Warzone 2100 Tech Tree |
| 01:39 |
leo_rockway |
iqualfragile: yes, it's imprissive. |
| 01:39 |
Exio |
iqualfragile: wz is mad |
| 01:39 |
leo_rockway |
impressive, even. |
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| 01:41 |
Exio |
well, i love this channel, it should be called #offtopic-nights-and-minetest |
| 01:41 |
M13 |
I got Minetest to run on slitaz |
| 01:41 |
Jakssoul |
HOW!? |
| 01:41 |
Exio |
slitaz? w00t |
| 01:41 |
Jakssoul |
Exio, I concur. |
| 01:41 |
M13 |
I got the packages needed to compile minetest |
| 01:41 |
M13 |
and compiled irrlitch |
| 01:41 |
Exio |
Jakssoul: i think he used make and gcc |
| 01:42 |
leo_rockway |
it could've been clang |
| 01:42 |
Exio |
yeah.. |
| 01:42 |
M13 |
nope |
| 01:43 |
Exio |
but gcc is in slitaz's repository iirc |
| 01:43 |
M13 |
yes |
| 01:43 |
M13 |
aand its stable |
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| 01:43 |
M13 |
Im using Slitaz from now on out |
| 01:43 |
Exio |
slitaz is my main 'small / fast / live' distro |
| 01:44 |
iqualfragile |
nah, thats pupy |
| 01:44 |
M13 |
yep, puppy in mine |
| 01:44 |
iqualfragile |
slitaz is for …other… things |
| 01:44 |
M13 |
for crashing computers maybe |
| 01:44 |
Exio |
i don't really like puppy |
| 01:44 |
Exio |
slitaz looks .. smaller .. :P |
| 01:44 |
M13 |
i love puppy |
| 01:44 |
M13 |
it is |
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Jakssoul |
Puppy doesn't like Minetest. |
| 01:45 |
Jakssoul |
Not for me, at least. |
| 01:45 |
M13 |
Puppy Runs Minetest fine |
| 01:45 |
M13 |
use Puppy Lucid |
| 01:45 |
M13 |
it has most drivers for computers |
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| 01:46 |
Jakssoul |
Darn. I was using Slacko |
| 01:46 |
Jakssoul |
Lucid doesn't like my netbook. It likes to pretend it is always overheating. |
| 01:46 |
Kacey |
back (for now) |
| 01:46 |
iqualfragile |
oh, wow, they have changed the site, havent they? http://www.puppylinux.com/news/index.html |
| 01:46 |
moltenbot |
Masters link: developer news |
| 01:46 |
M13 |
yep it works |
| 01:49 |
iqualfragile |
RealBadAngel: whats the status on technic? |
| 01:50 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, explain: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/336 |
| 01:50 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: preload item visuals not saved in config ? Issue #336 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: I need to re-check that later. |
| 01:53 |
PilzAdam |
and close the issue then because nobody can reproduce this |
| 01:54 |
PilzAdam |
:-P |
| 01:55 |
Kacey |
just finished 11 |
| 01:58 |
iqualfragile |
Kacey: 11 what? |
| 01:58 |
Kacey |
on my 4-bit decoder i finished the 11th output |
| 01:59 |
kaeza |
Kacey: screen? |
| 01:59 |
Kacey |
of it? |
| 01:59 |
kaeza |
yup |
| 01:59 |
Kacey |
it isnt done yet |
| 01:59 |
Kacey |
in a min let me get all outputs done |
| 02:00 |
kaeza |
doesn't matter. SCREEN? |
| 02:00 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 02:00 |
Kacey |
hold on a sec k? |
| 02:00 |
kaeza |
j/K take your time |
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| 02:02 |
Kacey |
12 done |
| 02:02 |
NekoGloop |
a bot on an esper channel now has a !kitten command, courtesy of me =) |
| 02:03 |
NakedFury |
it kills 1 cat each time you invoke it |
| 02:03 |
NekoGloop |
nonono |
| 02:03 |
NekoGloop |
syntax: !kitten <action> <target> =) |
| 02:04 |
NekoGloop |
so, say, !kitten punts at NakedFury |
| 02:04 |
NakedFury |
I will try it once |
| 02:04 |
NakedFury |
!kitten |
| 02:04 |
NekoGloop |
would say "NekoGloop punts kitten at NakedFury" |
| 02:04 |
NekoGloop |
xD |
| 02:04 |
NekoGloop |
I said it's on an esper channel |
| 02:04 |
NekoGloop |
#minecraftindex to be precise. |
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| 02:11 |
Jakssoul |
Is it just me, or does the default Archive manager for Xubuntu SUCK? |
| 02:11 |
Jakssoul |
Half the files I download get an error when extracting. |
| 02:12 |
kaeza |
Jakssoul: that happens also on the Ubuntu that comes with the OLPC |
| 02:12 |
Jakssoul |
Ughhhhh! |
| 02:13 |
Jakssoul |
I just took the time to download Daggerfall and now it won't extract. |
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| 02:13 |
kaeza |
Jakssoul: try extracting from the command line |
| 02:13 |
Jakssoul |
Because I know how to. |
| 02:13 |
Jakssoul |
xD |
| 02:13 |
kaeza |
!c 1/0 |
| 02:13 |
Minetest-tan |
Sorry, no result. |
| 02:14 |
kaeza |
wrong bot |
| 02:14 |
kaeza |
sorry |
| 02:14 |
iqualfragile |
what should it do? |
| 02:14 |
kaeza |
http://example.com |
| 02:14 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: Example Domain |
| 02:14 |
kaeza |
there ^ |
| 02:14 |
kaeza |
iqualfragile: ? |
| 02:14 |
iqualfragile |
jup? |
| 02:15 |
kaeza |
!c 2^24 |
| 02:15 |
Minetest-tan |
16Â 777Â 216 |
| 02:17 |
iqualfragile |
i dont get it… |
| 02:22 |
iqualfragile |
!c 999^999 |
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Minetest-tan |
Sorry, no result. |
| 02:22 |
iqualfragile |
pff |
| 02:22 |
iqualfragile |
weakling |
| 02:23 |
iqualfragile |
the result had just 3086 chars |
| 02:26 |
iqualfragile |
yeah, well, good night |
| 02:26 |
kaeza |
night |
| 02:27 |
Jakssoul |
Good night. |
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| 02:37 |
PilzAdam |
If anyone is bored go through this list and look if you can fix something: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues?state=open |
| 02:37 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: Issues ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
| 02:40 |
emstrand |
I have 5 apples and a rat, no tools...How do I get tools? |
| 02:41 |
NakedFury |
you need tree blocks to turn into wood then sticks and tools |
| 02:41 |
PilzAdam |
emstrand, wich version of Minetest are you using? |
| 02:41 |
NakedFury |
1 tree = 4 wood. 1 = wood =4 sticks |
| 02:42 |
emstrand |
55.0.3.1 |
| 02:42 |
PilzAdam |
you can dig a tree block with your hand |
| 02:42 |
NakedFury |
minetest version |
| 02:42 |
VanessaE |
eek, 0.3.1 is way old |
| 02:42 |
VanessaE |
get 0.4.4 :-) |
| 02:43 |
NakedFury |
next time remove the 55 numbers |
| 02:43 |
emstrand |
tree block with hand?...great! |
| 02:43 |
NakedFury |
but yes upgrade to 0.4.4 |
| 02:43 |
emstrand |
ok upgrade |
| 02:44 |
PilzAdam |
if you need help to get this version to run feel free to ask |
| 02:44 |
NakedFury |
same rules. you can chop trees with your hand but it takes time |
| 02:44 |
emstrand |
thanks |
| 02:44 |
NakedFury |
after you get the tree craft it into wood then into sticks |
| 02:44 |
NakedFury |
then place 2 sticks in a vertical position: |
| 02:44 |
NakedFury |
I |
| 02:44 |
NakedFury |
I |
| 02:45 |
emstrand |
and? |
| 02:45 |
NakedFury |
like that and on top place 3 wood blocks for a pick axe |
| 02:45 |
NakedFury |
example: |
| 02:45 |
NakedFury |
W W W and the 2 sticks in the center |
| 02:45 |
NakedFury |
I |
| 02:45 |
NakedFury |
I |
| 02:45 |
PilzAdam |
or just read the wiki: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Minetest_Wiki |
| 02:45 |
NakedFury |
yeah that works too |
| 02:45 |
emstrand |
ok...thanks |
| 02:47 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, here we go: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/336#issuecomment-11723995 |
| 02:47 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: Settings checkboxes not saved if you quit without first leaving the Settings tab ? Issue #336 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: already updated the description and title accordingly |
| 02:48 |
PilzAdam |
saw that |
| 02:48 |
PilzAdam |
thats a completly different issue |
| 02:48 |
VanessaE |
indeed. |
| 02:48 |
PilzAdam |
and very low priority |
| 02:49 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 02:49 |
VanessaE |
no matter |
| 02:50 |
PilzAdam |
its 4 AM here need to sleep now |
| 02:51 |
NakedFury |
no bug fix should be low priority |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
merge my mese change first :-) |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
(my tweak) |
| 02:51 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: to be fair, this one's quite minor |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
sigh |
| 02:51 |
kaeza |
back |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
hi kaeza |
| 02:51 |
kaeza |
o hai V |
| 02:52 |
kaeza |
what's up? |
| 02:52 |
VanessaE |
nothin' much |
| 02:53 |
BackupCoder |
end of the year |
| 02:53 |
BackupCoder |
have no fear |
| 02:54 |
BackupCoder |
shed no tear |
| 02:54 |
VanessaE |
I'm telling you, he's starting to piss me off now |
| 02:54 |
BackupCoder |
have some beer |
| 02:54 |
NakedFury |
not me I hope |
| 02:54 |
VanessaE |
no, PilzAdam |
| 03:04 |
emstrand |
I now have a pick and a wooden shovel...thanks for the help..bye |
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| 03:42 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 03:42 |
kaeza |
hey |
| 03:42 |
kaeza |
o/ |
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| 04:03 |
sokomine |
hi |
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| 04:11 |
kaeza |
hi |
| 04:18 |
VanessaE |
fuck it. |
| 04:18 |
VanessaE |
I give up trying to make everyone happy with this mese shit. |
| 04:20 |
NakedFury |
why. whats happening now? |
| 04:20 |
VanessaE |
doesn't matter. |
| 04:21 |
kaeza |
I know that feeling sis |
| 04:21 |
VanessaE |
no matter what I do, someone feels the need to bitch in the most vocal manner possible. |
| 04:22 |
kaeza |
then don't mind them |
| 04:22 |
VanessaE |
or tell me my changes won't work (pilzadam) |
| 04:22 |
kaeza |
I still believe the crystals are the right way to go |
| 04:22 |
VanessaE |
the problem is the *old* mese |
| 04:22 |
leo_rockway |
I don't like Linus a lot but: Talk is cheap, show me the code. |
| 04:22 |
VanessaE |
people who want it bitch loudly when they don't have it anymore. |
| 04:22 |
VanessaE |
I try to fix it? pilzadam bitches. |
| 04:23 |
VanessaE |
I try to fix it some other way, someone else will bitch. |
| 04:23 |
leo_rockway |
I haven't seen the crystals, but... seriously, some cheese with all the whine? too much drama over something that shouldn't cause so much drama. |
| 04:23 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: that also happened to me with my docs fix, remember? |
| 04:23 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: actually I don't remember. |
| 04:23 |
sokomine |
oh :-( |
| 04:23 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: the crystals was added to minetest_game master days ago. |
| 04:23 |
VanessaE |
and that's making people complain. |
| 04:23 |
sokomine |
hm. just give enough mese to everyone :-) (hm..might still not make everyone happy :-)) |
| 04:24 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: yup, I know about it, I just haven't been able to see it since my laptop broke. |
| 04:24 |
NakedFury |
they should not complain, makes them more unique |
| 04:24 |
VanessaE |
so fuck it. get Jeija's old mese mod and live in the land of the lost. |
| 04:24 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/361 |
| 04:25 |
sokomine |
yes. you tried the best. maybe people where too accustomed to the old mese and just don't like too much change. it's hard to tell |
| 04:27 |
sokomine |
today, i discovered too large swamps in singleplayer. and a sheep that was lying on the ground and not just standing. just to add some points that i enjoyed today :-) |
| 04:28 |
sokomine |
havn't really seen the new mese yet. i was trying to add the formspec-on-rightclick but am not sure if it will work the way i plan to do it. requires more reading of the code |
| 04:30 |
* sokomine |
looks around if there are some unclaimed kittens sitting on heads |
| 04:30 |
kaeza |
to all those bitchers out there: is it too hard to just say 'nice job' without sarcasm? |
| 04:31 |
sokomine |
we ought to say thank you more, that's right |
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| 04:32 |
sokomine |
vanessa is doing a great job. i just think that those poeple who don't like the mese change do not get on well with changes as such |
| 04:32 |
VanessaE |
hah |
| 04:32 |
Muadtralk |
hmmmm? |
| 04:32 |
leo_rockway |
kaeza: what about those dox? |
| 04:32 |
Muadtralk |
talking about the changes again? |
| 04:32 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: talking about how I gave up trying to put the old stuff back in. |
| 04:32 |
Exio |
btw, i like the change now mese is 'more normal' :P |
| 04:33 |
sokomine |
:-) |
| 04:33 |
VanessaE |
people bitch, I try to fix. then pilzadam, who has the keys the repo, bitches. |
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| 04:33 |
sokomine |
i'm afraid there is really no way to make them all happy :-/ |
| 04:33 |
Muadtralk |
what did pilzadam do? |
| 04:33 |
leo_rockway |
sokomine: exactly |
| 04:34 |
Muadtralk |
after all i agreed with your fix |
| 04:34 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: refused to push any of my attempted fixes to give users back their old mese. |
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kaeza |
leo_rockway: it was just an attempt at documenting something that wasn't documented yet |
| 04:35 |
kaeza |
*properly documented* |
| 04:35 |
leo_rockway |
kaeza: why did they stop you? I don't get it. |
| 04:35 |
Muadtralk |
his reasoning? |
| 04:35 |
kaeza |
I just won't waste my time doing something if everyone is starting to bitch |
| 04:36 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: it leads to inconsistencies with what will be found underground - old mese or new mese-crystals-in-stone. |
| 04:36 |
kizeren |
personally I love the new mese. Works awesome with the mint mod. That and it makes much more sense. |
| 04:36 |
leo_rockway |
kaeza: more and better documentation is always good... I don't get it :S |
| 04:36 |
VanessaE |
it was the only way I could solve everyone's problem. |
| 04:36 |
kaeza |
leo_rockway: : https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/361 |
| 04:36 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: Added texture transformations documentation to MT Lua API docs. by kaeza ? Pull Request #361 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
| 04:36 |
Muadtralk |
time for me to bitch to pilzadam then |
| 04:36 |
VanessaE |
and the only one who even looks at minetest_game anymore, pilzadam, says no. |
| 04:37 |
VanessaE |
so fuck it. I give up. take my code from (closed) pull request #82 (the first commit only) and see if you can make him like it. |
| 04:38 |
VanessaE |
(ignore the three commits that follow it, those were further attempts to fix it followed by failed attempts to revert and rebase so I could collapse it all into one commit) |
| 04:38 |
leo_rockway |
:S |
| 04:38 |
Muadtralk |
huh |
| 04:39 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: here's the patch I wanted to add: https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest_game/commit/b304e242f4a7b5e9769281059fbe1505e6b9afa8 |
| 04:39 |
Muadtralk |
sounds like that optimization that didnt get tested before being submitted and therefore got kiboshed |
| 04:39 |
sokomine |
texture transformation? sounds good. can it be done? apart from animated textures like in vanessas tv? i changed my grass to tv for testing purposes. that worked, but was not suitable for a 4seasons-replacement as intended |
| 04:39 |
Muadtralk |
although this one has no reasoning |
| 04:40 |
kaeza |
leo_rockway: if there are enough upvotes here, I may expand it. otherwise, just meh |
| 04:40 |
Muadtralk |
VanessaE you gave up too quickly |
| 04:40 |
Muadtralk |
it took 3 comments to knock you off your horse |
| 04:41 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: you didn't see the chat here in IRC between pilzadam and I. |
| 04:41 |
Muadtralk |
was it large? |
| 04:41 |
VanessaE |
large enough. |
| 04:41 |
Muadtralk |
hmmm did you send Jordach in as backup? |
| 04:41 |
Muadtralk |
he has good speaking skills |
| 04:41 |
* VanessaE |
shrugs |
| 04:42 |
Muadtralk |
okay i missed a m so he isnt going to get pissed at me |
| 04:42 |
sokomine |
for some of us english isn't the first language. while that may not always show it may make it more difficult when it gets to some details or talking friendly with other people. i understand most but have a rather small working vocabulary. and a lot of adjectives remain a mystery. those things might affect other people as well |
| 04:43 |
sokomine |
it's sometimes hard enough to work together when all people speak the same language :-) |
| 04:43 |
OldCoder |
sokomine, Hmm? |
| 04:43 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
| 04:44 |
OldCoder |
sokomine, Your English seems perfect |
| 04:44 |
sokomine |
thanks. but if we where actually speaking and not writing i'd be completly lost |
| 04:44 |
sokomine |
and if i want to discuss details about e.g. possible improvements to a house in one of the mt/mc worlds it gets complicated |
| 04:45 |
leo_rockway |
sokomine: what's your mother tongue? |
| 04:45 |
sokomine |
german |
| 04:47 |
sokomine |
what i'm trying to say is that we (the non-native speakers) might miss some details of english. and those may be relevant as to how the reader perceives something said |
| 04:48 |
sokomine |
most will be meant far less harsh than it sounds :-) |
| 04:49 |
leo_rockway |
mhm, that makes sense. |
| 04:50 |
leo_rockway |
but even using the same language... |
| 04:50 |
sokomine |
yes. even there you get those problems far too often :-( |
| 04:50 |
leo_rockway |
if you're angry, you'll read what people tell you using an angry tone. |
| 04:50 |
Muadtralk |
of course most of native English speakers butcher the language either way |
| 04:50 |
Muadtralk |
:P |
| 04:50 |
sokomine |
or just reading too fast or beeing to tired or too focussed on something |
| 04:50 |
sokomine |
:-) |
| 04:50 |
sokomine |
as do germans with their language |
| 04:51 |
kaeza |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/366 |
| 04:51 |
Muadtralk |
ill jump on the too tired train |
| 04:51 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: Add a list of servers to the Multiplayer tab by Jeija ? Pull Request #366 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
| 04:51 |
kaeza |
WOW |
| 04:51 |
Muadtralk |
yes! |
| 04:51 |
leo_rockway |
one of Wikipedia's pillars is "Assume good faith". I think that solves a lot of issues. |
| 04:51 |
Muadtralk |
pull it in now! |
| 04:51 |
Muadtralk |
anyone! |
| 04:51 |
sokomine |
oh yes, that would be a good thing, such a server list |
| 04:51 |
kaeza |
leo_rockway: +1 |
| 04:51 |
* sokomine |
nods to leo |
| 04:51 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: you wish! |
| 04:51 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: I didn't say all o.o |
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| 04:52 |
kaeza |
<PilzAdam> YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!! |
| 04:52 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: another one of their cardinal rules is, "if a rule stops you from improving Wikipedia, ignore all the rules [and do it anyway]." |
| 04:52 |
leo_rockway |
fly, you fools -.- |
| 04:53 |
sokomine |
one part of the lord of the rings was just repeated yesterday :-) maybe he was watching that on tv ,-) |
| 04:53 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: there you go. So don't try to fix the new mese. The changed was pulled, end of story. |
| 04:54 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: I wanted to improve it further so people who needed old mese still have it. Pilzadam says, of the current state, that if peoples' buildings are undesireably altered by the change, they just need to tear down, re-invest, and re-build with less-cheap materials. |
| 04:55 |
VanessaE |
(paraphrase) |
| 04:56 |
Muadtralk |
kay then |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
e.g. rebuild with mese blocks = 9 times as much of the stuff. |
| 04:56 |
sokomine |
it would be nice if we could distinguish between "automaticly generated block" and "block placed by player" |
| 04:56 |
Muadtralk |
tell him to add wool recipes |
| 04:56 |
Muadtralk |
that way we can use yellow wool |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: he'll tell you to install a mod. |
| 04:56 |
Muadtralk |
its in the default! |
| 04:56 |
NakedFury |
who the hell would build with the weird old mese blocks??????????????????????????????????? |
| 04:56 |
Muadtralk |
so are dyes! |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
(e.g. Jordach's woolcraft) |
| 04:56 |
Muadtralk |
I would |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: I've seen it done. |
| 04:57 |
Muadtralk |
Ive built massive statues! |
| 04:57 |
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| 04:57 |
Muadtralk |
using several stacks! |
| 04:57 |
sokomine |
is there any real problem with a mod for those people? there is some oldmese mod? doesn't that help? |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
hey, IP. |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
world not loading again? |
| 04:57 |
InfinityProject |
@VanessaE, the server is bugging |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
restarted. |
| 04:57 |
InfinityProject |
parts of the world arnet loading |
| 04:57 |
kaeza |
hi InfinityProject |
| 04:58 |
sokomine |
hm, sometimes people did build with the old mese blocks. usually nothing large because that would look too stupid |
| 04:58 |
InfinityProject |
hello kaeza |
| 04:58 |
sokomine |
i have one in my manson on display :-) |
| 04:58 |
Muadtralk |
but still he would say add a mod |
| 04:58 |
Muadtralk |
so.... |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
on redcrab's server, before the mapgen killed it, was a small shop made of the stuff, and another long before that with mese as pavement in front of the building |
| 04:59 |
NakedFury |
fugly |
| 04:59 |
Muadtralk |
let me fetch an image of one of my uses of it |
| 04:59 |
sokomine |
yes, i saw mese as pavement somewhere. was only a small area at that house |
| 04:59 |
Muadtralk |
its isnt very ugly from far away |
| 04:59 |
InfinityProject |
Thankyou Vanessa |
| 05:00 |
sokomine |
ok, if you can get far enough away it might look good. that usually is hindered by loading all the chunks requiring time |
| 05:00 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: the only solution to make everyone happy is to take #82, add an ABM to it to convert all old mese to mese-crystals-in-stone under some certain depth e.g. -100 or lower, and push that to minetest_game master. |
| 05:00 |
sokomine |
it is difficult for me to see cactuz' eiffel tower on redcrabs server. if i want to see it i have to climb it first. otherwise it isn't loaded |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
(and pray that no one tries to place any of it below that depth, lest it also be converted right away) |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: same for me. |
| 05:01 |
sokomine |
:-) |
| 05:01 |
sokomine |
people like caves too much. you'd end up with someone trying to build a mese fortress at -1000 or something :-) |
| 05:02 |
VanessaE |
exactly. Someone on my server build a moderately-sized dwelling a few meters underground, out of (the new) mese blocks. |
| 05:02 |
VanessaE |
three floors, split level if I remember right |
| 05:02 |
sokomine |
inocudom? |
| 05:03 |
VanessaE |
don't remember |
| 05:03 |
Muadtralk |
http://imageshack.us/a/img23/8610/screenshot20723352.png |
| 05:03 |
sokomine |
there are several people who look out for caves. they ought to settle down in our cave at greenvale :-) |
| 05:03 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: that figure looks familiar |
| 05:04 |
Muadtralk |
ive built it on every server i visited |
| 05:04 |
Muadtralk |
except the newer ones |
| 05:04 |
VanessaE |
what is it? |
| 05:04 |
Muadtralk |
the rude bird |
| 05:04 |
sokomine |
muadtralk: might be a good statue. difficult to see on a single image. flying around it would certainly be fun and give a better impression :-) |
| 05:05 |
sokomine |
rude bird? |
| 05:05 |
Muadtralk |
a political figure my grandfather created |
| 05:05 |
sokomine |
it looks like a bird, yes |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
ah |
| 05:05 |
sokomine |
ah |
| 05:06 |
Muadtralk |
trust me the severed head behind the wall its guarding was better |
| 05:06 |
Muadtralk |
but i didnt snap many pics back then |
| 05:07 |
VanessaE |
sorta reminds me of something out of The Far Side. |
| 05:08 |
Muadtralk |
a slightly more 3d version http://imageshack.us/a/img688/5627/screenshot160637871.png |
| 05:08 |
Muadtralk |
that wasnt finished |
| 05:10 |
sokomine |
the car looks good as well |
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| 05:11 |
Muadtralk |
not mine |
| 05:11 |
Muadtralk |
:P |
| 05:11 |
sokomine |
hm, and lighting seems a problem sometimes. my large minecraft-classic-townhall didn't work in minetest because it was extremly dark inside (until i made all blocks emit light) |
| 05:11 |
sokomine |
which server are they on? |
| 05:12 |
Muadtralk |
infinity |
| 05:12 |
Muadtralk |
you know Jordan4ibanez's one |
| 05:13 |
Muadtralk |
the old one is gameboom obviously |
| 05:14 |
Muadtralk |
there is an old mineshaft that should still lead to it |
| 05:14 |
Muadtralk |
that is if you can find it |
| 05:14 |
Muadtralk |
it was directly under bad_commands castle |
| 05:14 |
sokomine |
havn't been on that one yet |
| 05:14 |
Muadtralk |
which is now a hole in the ground |
| 05:15 |
sokomine |
instructions where to find good buildings on servers would be nice :-) |
| 05:15 |
Muadtralk |
it would |
| 05:15 |
Muadtralk |
I knew some epic ones on Gameboom that i can still find |
| 05:15 |
Muadtralk |
but.... |
| 05:16 |
Muadtralk |
it usually means traversing a map with me for an hour to even see it |
| 05:16 |
sokomine |
does the gameboom server has something like teleporters? i wish for them on redcrabs server. kingarthur has them - and they are very practical |
| 05:16 |
Muadtralk |
it did |
| 05:16 |
sokomine |
urgs |
| 05:16 |
Muadtralk |
they got removed |
| 05:16 |
sokomine |
:-( |
| 05:16 |
sokomine |
why? |
| 05:16 |
Muadtralk |
after people got pissed at the moderator Bad_command |
| 05:16 |
Muadtralk |
demanded he be removed |
| 05:16 |
Muadtralk |
so... |
| 05:17 |
Muadtralk |
he deleted them |
| 05:17 |
Muadtralk |
and he is the only person who can bring them back |
| 05:17 |
sokomine |
oh :-( |
| 05:17 |
leo_rockway |
the idea of mese being an alien crystal made me want alien mobs. I've mentioned that... but also, I like how Minecraft has abandoned mineshafts / ravines. MT could have aliens land sites / crashsites. |
| 05:17 |
Muadtralk |
yes! |
| 05:17 |
leo_rockway |
that would make us different from MC |
| 05:18 |
Muadtralk |
replace the dungeons we had with those! |
| 05:18 |
sokomine |
oh, yes, aliens would be nice :-) |
| 05:18 |
Muadtralk |
not the green ones |
| 05:18 |
Muadtralk |
only the white ones |
| 05:18 |
Muadtralk |
they taste better |
| 05:18 |
leo_rockway |
no, more like oreki (or however it was spelled) |
| 05:18 |
Muadtralk |
oerkki |
| 05:19 |
sokomine |
i don't like the mystery stuff minecraft seems to have (sekeltons? come on......). but there is nothing wrong with aliens. they might be possible. but if they have crashsites everywhere the question arises why they can't fly.... |
| 05:19 |
Muadtralk |
we need a bow and arrow |
| 05:19 |
leo_rockway |
the DM attack the aliens too |
| 05:19 |
Muadtralk |
or a laser gun |
| 05:20 |
Muadtralk |
so we can shoot down UFO's |
| 05:20 |
leo_rockway |
and they make the aliens UFOs crash |
| 05:20 |
VanessaE |
maybe on Earth they can't make the materials needed to fly? :-) |
| 05:20 |
sokomine |
the dm have nice living areas |
| 05:20 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: throwing mod, and technic laser drill |
| 05:20 |
sokomine |
why do the aliens fly that deep then? |
| 05:20 |
Muadtralk |
yes I know |
| 05:20 |
VanessaE |
make those do the job :-) |
| 05:20 |
Muadtralk |
actually muavebic was working on some cool things last i checked |
| 05:21 |
leo_rockway |
I'd really like throwing mod to have a throwing animation |
| 05:21 |
Muadtralk |
and decaying arrows |
| 05:21 |
sokomine |
he seems to build cool things as well based on his screenshots |
| 05:21 |
sokomine |
arrows...hm...in a world with microprocessors? |
| 05:21 |
sokomine |
and tnt...sometimes |
| 05:22 |
leo_rockway |
you have to start somewhere |
| 05:22 |
leo_rockway |
you were in one of the ufos that crashed and you need to survive o.o |
| 05:22 |
sokomine |
sounds good |
| 05:23 |
Muadtralk |
or you stole the device needed for them to fly |
| 05:23 |
leo_rockway |
and that's why they all attack you |
| 05:23 |
Exio |
and now they want it back! |
| 05:24 |
Muadtralk |
and thats why they are on the ground! |
| 05:24 |
sokomine |
crashed ufos might also supply further inhabitants in the future. those npc have to come from somewhere. having them roam around like animals isn't convincing |
| 05:24 |
Muadtralk |
yes yes |
| 05:25 |
sokomine |
or mese is really usefull stuff that the aliens need for their technology? very valuable, far more advanced than what the players can build with it |
| 05:26 |
leo_rockway |
I'd really like to see this in MT for real. |
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sokomine |
yes. that would be fun! |
| 05:29 |
Muadtralk |
well now that we have put this into a idea |
| 05:29 |
Muadtralk |
it will never come to be |
| 05:29 |
Muadtralk |
simple as that |
| 05:30 |
leo_rockway |
>.< |
| 05:30 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: you should try asking him in -dev |
| 05:32 |
Muadtralk |
goodbye all! |
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sokomine |
why not? :-( |
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Kacey |
hello |
| 05:44 |
Kacey |
hello? |
| 05:45 |
Kacey |
anybody home? |
| 05:47 |
kaeza |
hey |
| 05:47 |
Kacey |
hola |
| 05:47 |
kaeza |
finished your decored? |
| 05:47 |
kaeza |
decoder* |
| 05:49 |
Kacey |
almost 2 more outputs to go |
| 05:49 |
kaeza |
good |
| 05:49 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 05:49 |
Kacey |
and then i have to make the display |
| 05:53 |
Kacey |
one more output |
| 05:53 |
Kacey |
brb |
| 05:57 |
Kacey |
finished with decoder |
| 06:05 |
kaeza |
k |
| 06:05 |
kaeza |
screenies? |
| 06:05 |
kaeza |
meh |
| 06:05 |
* kaeza |
goes back to memebase |
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Kacey |
sorry i was looking for a seven segment display drawing/ circut design |
| 06:11 |
Exio |
:O quake3 in android working |
| 06:11 |
Exio |
it works in a lg p350 perfectly! (i don't have any real keyboard so i can't move, but.. ) |
| 06:12 |
kaeza |
just... WOW |
| 06:12 |
jojoa1997 |
what does this mean |
| 06:12 |
jojoa1997 |
01:10:19: VERBOSE[main]: error_message = Some exception: "Access violation" |
| 06:12 |
kaeza |
Access Violation yet again? |
| 06:12 |
kaeza |
hmm |
| 06:13 |
jojoa1997 |
this is the first time for me |
| 06:13 |
kaeza |
jojoa1997: are you using MOBF? |
| 06:14 |
jojoa1997 |
one sec i will paste the errors in the debug |
| 06:14 |
jojoa1997 |
http://paste.dy.fi/JHs |
| 06:14 |
moltenbot |
jojoa1997's link: pastebin |
| 06:15 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: probably the result of that recovery you tried to do. |
| 06:15 |
VanessaE |
those are the same sorts of errors I was getting with your display boxes mod. |
| 06:15 |
VanessaE |
delete technic and tetris_machine and re-download them from their original sources. |
| 06:15 |
jojoa1997 |
i dont hink so i downloaded it |
| 06:16 |
jojoa1997 |
redownloaded |
| 06:16 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: just asking, but what commands would you find useful for remote server admin? |
| 06:16 |
VanessaE |
you may have installed them to the wrong folders. |
| 06:16 |
Exio |
now i need a bluetooth keyboard |
| 06:16 |
Exio |
and i'm done for playing quake3 in everywhere! |
| 06:17 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: basic stuff from the node_ownership mod, maybe a few random server commands like /ban or so |
| 06:17 |
jojoa1997 |
nope i had been running the modpack file not the actual folder |
| 06:17 |
jojoa1997 |
file=folder |
| 06:17 |
VanessaE |
I haven't really thought about it too much |
| 06:17 |
VanessaE |
/grant is helpful too |
| 06:17 |
kaeza |
sounds like a good idea |
| 06:17 |
kaeza |
remote ban |
| 06:17 |
Exio |
why not a 'insecure exec'? :P |
| 06:18 |
kaeza |
that's also a good idea! |
| 06:18 |
kaeza |
let's have fun crashing Kacey's server again! :P |
| 06:18 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 06:18 |
VanessaE |
I didn't say they'd make for good remote admin commands :-) |
| 06:18 |
VanessaE |
just that they're what I use most :-) |
| 06:20 |
Exio |
so, you keep banning people? :P |
| 06:20 |
kaeza |
she doesn't need to; it's enough with the horrible lag |
| 06:20 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 06:20 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 06:20 |
kaeza |
lol J/K |
| 06:21 |
kaeza |
it's been faster lately |
| 06:21 |
VanessaE |
well that's one way to keep the griefing at bay - the server lags so much that only a serious player would bother ;) |
| 06:22 |
Exio |
kaeza: do you have any spare bluetooth keyboard? |
| 06:22 |
kaeza |
yup |
| 06:22 |
Exio |
:P i need one! |
| 06:23 |
kaeza |
here's the link: http://room/desktop/keyboard.zip |
| 06:23 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 06:23 |
Exio |
ok |
| 06:23 |
* Exio |
downloads it |
| 06:23 |
Exio |
and btw, i need more ram |
| 06:23 |
* Exio |
opens downloadmoreram.com |
| 06:23 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 06:24 |
kaeza |
seems legit |
| 06:24 |
Exio |
:P |
| 06:25 |
Kacey |
ok decoder is done |
| 06:25 |
Kacey |
now for the display decoder |
| 06:25 |
* VanessaE |
looks at the map of her server... still no nyan cats? come on people, get busy :-) |
| 06:26 |
kaeza |
I srsly need to make a Super Mario theme music box |
| 06:26 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 06:26 |
kaeza |
BTW I changed the pirate poker face in the forums. hope you like the new one ^_^ |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
haven't seen it yet |
| 06:32 |
kaeza |
hmm I think I'll wait until I have some secure authentication before making more commands |
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| 06:34 |
VanessaE |
morning Jeija |
| 06:36 |
Jeija |
morning VanessaE + everyone |
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jojoa1997 |
does anyone have the uranium mod |
| 06:36 |
Exio |
morning Jeija |
| 06:37 |
jojoa1997 |
morning Jeija |
| 06:37 |
Exio |
but night for me, going to sleep, bye :P |
| 06:37 |
jojoa1997 |
adios |
| 06:37 |
Exio |
chau :D |
| 06:38 |
jojoa1997 |
well does anyone |
| 06:39 |
Kacey |
Jeija:i have successfully made a 4-bit decoder |
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Dogzilla131 |
bye |
| 06:47 |
kaeza |
morning Jeija |
| 06:47 |
* kaeza |
is slowpoke |
| 06:48 |
jojoa1997 |
what is the texture atlas thing that you put in the config file that turns atlas off |
| 06:49 |
jojoa1997 |
what do you type |
| 06:49 |
VanessaE |
enable_texture_atlas = false |
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jojoa1997 |
thanks |
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| 07:05 |
Kacey |
making a sevven segment display |
| 07:05 |
Jeija |
Nice, Kacey |
| 07:05 |
Kacey |
i have a 4-bit decoder made already |
| 07:20 |
Kacey |
soooooooo many sbi commands |
| 07:21 |
kaeza |
anyone interested in this idea: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-26#i_2756411 |
| 07:21 |
kaeza |
+? |
| 07:23 |
kaeza |
hmm... another question... |
| 07:24 |
kaeza |
is the nyancat generation code in C++? |
| 07:24 |
kaeza |
or in Lua? |
| 07:26 |
Kacey |
the worst part is... i have no resource to go to... |
| 07:26 |
Kacey |
Jeija: +99999999999999999999999999999999999999999 for the microcontroller |
| 07:34 |
Kacey |
0 coded into the display |
| 07:35 |
VanessaE |
ok, time for me to crash. |
| 07:35 |
VanessaE |
night all. |
| 07:35 |
kaeza |
night V |
| 07:35 |
kaeza |
Kacey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven-segment_display |
| 07:35 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: Seven-segment display - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| 07:35 |
kaeza |
See the "Displaying letters setcion" |
| 07:35 |
Kacey |
night v |
| 07:36 |
kaeza |
See the "Displaying letters" section |
| 07:36 |
Kacey |
i dont need to display letters |
| 07:36 |
kaeza |
... |
| 07:36 |
Kacey |
just numbers |
| 07:36 |
kaeza |
could you please at least look at it? |
| 07:36 |
Kacey |
ok |
| 07:40 |
Kacey |
kinda helps |
| 07:42 |
Kacey |
sbi this sbi that.... |
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jojoa1997 |
what do i type to update my local repo onto github.com |
| 07:45 |
jojoa1997 |
anyone |
| 07:46 |
Kacey |
1 is coded in now... |
| 07:47 |
Kacey |
and looking at the record... this will take FOREVER!!!!!! |
| 07:47 |
kaeza |
jojoa1997: hmm |
| 07:48 |
kaeza |
you want to update your mod? |
| 07:48 |
jojoa1997 |
which mod |
| 07:48 |
kaeza |
jojoa1997: what do you want to do? |
| 07:49 |
jojoa1997 |
nvm i wanted to make a minetest backup but i decided not to |
| 07:49 |
kaeza |
k |
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Kacey |
2 is coded in |
| 07:53 |
Kacey |
13 more to go and then i have to make the real display |
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Kacey |
hello |
| 08:00 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 08:00 |
* OldCoder |
is resting |
| 08:00 |
* OldCoder |
should be here all day Friday after waking up |
| 08:00 |
* OldCoder |
will be working on Europe, Vanessa World, build scripts for people, and client binaries |
| 08:01 |
OldCoder |
Zzz |
| 08:01 |
kaeza |
:) |
| 08:01 |
kaeza |
good night OC |
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jojoa1997 |
good night yall i am retiring for the night |
| 08:01 |
kaeza |
night |
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Kacey |
well i guess you and i are the only ones on kaeza |
| 08:03 |
Kacey |
3 coded in |
| 08:03 |
kaeza |
yup |
| 08:04 |
Kacey |
lol i need 12 more and then i have to make the actual display |
| 08:06 |
Kacey |
this is getting boring |
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Kacey |
4 coded in... |
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kaeza |
mkay. time to go. good night/morning everyone |
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Zeg9 |
Hello |
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markveidemanis |
Hello |
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kaeza |
hi |
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klunk |
... hi kaeza ! |
| 10:30 |
kaeza |
hi klunk |
| 10:30 |
kaeza |
what's up? |
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klunk |
bohh nothing really new... |
| 10:35 |
Zeg9 |
Hi kaeza, klunk |
| 10:35 |
kaeza |
hey Zeg9 |
| 10:36 |
klunk |
I totally disagree with merchandising crisis around there, and some other stuffs with forum; I hope I will wrong but youtube flooding wont do nothing more than give community a huge amount of exclusive consumer asshole. |
| 10:36 |
klunk |
salut zeg9 |
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kaeza |
Zeg9: I was just reading your post about the chest Josh requested |
| 10:38 |
klunk |
I would prefer articles in wikipedia and stuff like that, I guess they give us more contributive people. |
| 10:38 |
Calinou |
wikipedia article? try harder! |
| 10:38 |
Calinou |
--wikipedia admin |
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| 10:40 |
klunk |
Calinou: j'ai pas compris ce que tu dit, mais j'ai vu combien s'était difficile dans le wikipedia Anglais. |
| 10:42 |
Calinou |
un français :D |
| 10:42 |
klunk |
oui et du Sud ! |
| 10:42 |
kaeza |
no entiendo nada de lo que dicen |
| 10:43 |
klunk |
yes we just saying nothing important :-) |
| 10:43 |
Calinou |
ich not bin spanish |
| 10:44 |
Zeg9 |
/bin/spanish |
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Calinou |
/usr/bin/native_french |
| 10:48 |
klunk |
Perhaps we must do revues on other places, then link them to wikipedia article ; french wikipedia article is thin, but it seems to be "accepted"; perhaps having other wikipedia lnguage revues could help to validate english one ? |
| 10:49 |
Zeg9 |
"Minetest is a sandbox game" << citation needed |
| 10:49 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 10:49 |
Calinou |
that WILL happen |
| 10:50 |
Zeg9 |
OMG! |
| 10:50 |
Zeg9 |
http://ompldr.org/vZ3V6Yg |
| 10:52 |
Calinou |
simple mobs much |
| 10:52 |
Zeg9 |
Any clue how I can beat them? |
| 10:53 |
* Zeg9 |
will try tnt |
| 10:53 |
Calinou |
sword and lava |
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Zeg9 |
The tnt was destroyed by DM. |
| 10:56 |
Calinou |
lava then |
| 10:58 |
Zeg9 |
They are blocking access to my mine, where is my unique lava lake :( |
| 10:59 |
Zeg9 |
I'll try some workaround... |
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Zeg9 |
Hi |
| 10:59 |
Zeg9 |
john_minetest, what I am doing atm: http://ompldr.org/vZ3V6Yg |
| 11:03 |
Zeg9 |
Yeah ! Thanks for your idea Calinou. :D |
| 11:06 |
Calinou |
yey clementine crash |
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| 11:06 |
Calinou |
yey another clementine crash |
| 11:06 |
Calinou |
yey yet another clementine crash |
| 11:07 |
Zeg9 |
Now the debug time |
| 11:07 |
Zeg9 |
After I removed the lava, this area was still lit |
| 11:08 |
Zeg9 |
Yeah. |
| 11:08 |
Zeg9 |
But mobf has a sort of creeper that also spawns on the grass |
| 11:08 |
Zeg9 |
and blows up everything :p |
| 11:10 |
sapier |
the others were out of sync with server @john_minetest |
| 11:11 |
sapier |
boombomb vanishes in sunlight without blowing up ... but as entity handling is somehow broken client often won't notice there ain't an entity anymore and still show it |
| 11:12 |
markveidemanis |
how do i connect mithril chests o a network/ |
| 11:12 |
markveidemanis |
? |
| 11:13 |
sapier |
thx but it's not my work I just selected it .. not exactly they spawn at places where light value between day and night has huge differences ... most likely this is surface true |
| 11:14 |
Zeg9 |
Sneak + Right click on cart to leave it = Teleport to somewhere |
| 11:14 |
sapier |
but zombie spawning algorithm is really heavy and subject to change (as soon as I have an idea how to do it less costly) |
| 11:14 |
sapier |
by the way its vombie not zombie :-) |
| 11:16 |
sapier |
true, still I'm not sure if this will result in lots and lots of lag |
| 11:17 |
kaeza |
hmmm... I can't count the times I pissed in my pants when exploring a dark cave and all of a sudden a DM appeared |
| 11:17 |
sapier |
I've already thought of spawners but how to make sure they don't get "lost" by some player interaction |
| 11:18 |
kaeza |
btw hi everyone |
| 11:18 |
sapier |
hello :) |
| 11:18 |
Zeg9 |
Make they have no group, so clients won't dig them |
| 11:19 |
* Jordach |
just tried to pause a minetest video on yt using esc |
| 11:19 |
sapier |
can one make it really invisible to client? |
| 11:20 |
kaeza |
sapier: use a *very small* nodebox |
| 11:20 |
kaeza |
or copy the player clip from maptools |
| 11:20 |
Calinou |
it is possible to make invisible nodeboxes without using a separate node or a specific texture |
| 11:20 |
sapier |
So we're talking about some sort of "invisible entity" |
| 11:20 |
Calinou |
make the nodeboxes VERY small borders |
| 11:20 |
Calinou |
that's what xfences do |
| 11:21 |
Calinou |
it is an hack, but invisible unless your screen resolution is something like 6800x2400 |
| 11:21 |
Jordach |
Calinou, i dont even think NASA'S huge screen does it |
| 11:22 |
sapier |
a good idea, might be a solution for those of my spawn algorithms beeing still too heavy |
| 11:22 |
sapier |
hopefully this won't make minetests entity handling colapse |
| 11:23 |
sapier |
as it most likely will double entity count |
| 11:23 |
Zeg9 |
Make a check on each spawn |
| 11:23 |
Zeg9 |
if there isn't more than X mobs on the chunk |
| 11:23 |
sapier |
of course thats done anyway |
| 11:24 |
sapier |
but still for each mob generated there'll be sitting a spawner around |
| 11:24 |
sapier |
@john_minetest in general they don't |
| 11:24 |
Zeg9 |
Or... |
| 11:24 |
Zeg9 |
Make mobs generate with the map |
| 11:24 |
Zeg9 |
and then they reproduce |
| 11:25 |
sapier |
boombomb vombie dm and big_red are killed by sunlight |
| 11:26 |
sapier |
@zeg9 good idea but is a little bit too complicated to balance |
| 11:26 |
Zeg9 |
Yeah. |
| 11:26 |
sapier |
no, I didn't have graphics by now ... but seems there's a 3d model for them so adding would be a matter of minutes |
| 11:27 |
sapier |
I think I'll implement a entity based spawn mechanism ... mobf already supports that many features adding another one won't harm ... especially if there are chances to improove performance |
| 11:30 |
sapier |
mesh is already supported and nodeboxes removal is already in progress |
| 11:30 |
sapier |
boombomb for example already got a shiny new sphere mesh |
| 11:31 |
sapier |
the cow got one too including walk stand and eat animation |
| 11:40 |
sapier |
I'm neither good at making models nor textures ;-) |
| 11:44 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: should core docs be in Core: or in main namespace? |
| 11:54 |
kaeza |
hmm... can you read the key states from lua? |
| 11:55 |
kaeza |
I mean, is there a function in the MT Lua API to read whether or not a key is pressed at a given moment? |
| 11:55 |
Jordach |
yes, only the default keys assigned for sneaking, walking, maus buttons, flying, jumping etc |
| 11:55 |
Jordach |
how do you think you can enter carts> |
| 11:56 |
kaeza |
hmm |
| 11:56 |
kaeza |
what I mean is *any* key |
| 11:56 |
Jordach |
no, that cant be |
| 11:56 |
Jordach |
sorry. |
| 11:56 |
kaeza |
ok |
| 11:56 |
Jordach |
minetest has not got that yet.... |
| 11:56 |
kaeza |
that would be awesome |
| 11:57 |
kaeza |
or atleast a bind command |
| 11:57 |
Jordach |
code it yourself. |
| 11:57 |
kaeza |
nice idea |
| 11:58 |
kaeza |
but before doing it, I wish to know if this feature is wanted |
| 12:01 |
Jordach |
it could be useful for a car mod or fighter jet mod (who wants missles and bombs!? not to mention realistic flight) |
| 12:16 |
kaeza |
yay and next we add ICBM launchers |
| 12:17 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 12:18 |
kaeza |
nah, but that would be cool |
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Jordach |
RealBadAngel, you around by chance> |
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| 12:30 |
iqualfragile |
RealBadAngel: if you are around (by chance) then: whats the status on technic? |
| 12:30 |
Jordach |
iqualfragile, I would have suggested a pm so he can read it later. |
| 12:30 |
iqualfragile |
good idea |
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| 12:39 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, sfan5, thexyz: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=59887#p59887 this topic is about a CERTAIN DATE.. should this be kept? |
| 12:39 |
moltenbot |
Jordach's link: [Mod]911[WIP][911] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
| 12:39 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: yed |
| 12:39 |
sfan5 |
*yes |
| 12:39 |
Jordach |
sfan5, read the topic wrong |
| 12:39 |
Jordach |
actually it is the rescue service |
| 12:40 |
Jordach |
hey Zeg9 - im gonna visit yer server |
| 12:41 |
Zeg9 |
Hello |
| 12:44 |
* Jordach |
signs in gleefully |
| 12:47 |
Jordach |
Zeg9, can you drop me some privs on zegatron? |
| 12:50 |
kaeza |
does anyone know who "...@rrcs-96-11-145-30.central.biz.rr.com" may be? |
| 12:52 |
kaeza |
whoever it is, it is trying to use an older version of my IRC mod |
| 12:54 |
FreeFull |
Imagine mods that expire |
| 12:54 |
FreeFull |
And you can't use them after a certain date |
| 12:54 |
FreeFull |
So you are forced to use the newest version |
| 12:55 |
kaeza |
his/her problem is that particular version seems to be crashing |
| 12:56 |
FreeFull |
Of course, if you know how to code, the safeguard is easily circumvented, but then you'll probably grab the newest version anyawy |
| 12:57 |
kaeza |
a mod manager that automatically updates (or suggests an update) would be useful |
| 12:59 |
FreeFull |
True |
| 12:59 |
FreeFull |
Probably a better solution |
| 13:11 |
iqualfragile |
uhm… you can just pull from github and then update automaticly? |
| 13:11 |
iqualfragile |
https://github.com/iqualfragile/minetest_scripts FreeFull kaeza |
| 13:11 |
moltenbot |
Masters link: iqualfragile/minetest_scripts ? GitHub |
| 13:15 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, europe.minetest.org 30000 is down |
| 13:15 |
Jordach |
!up europe.minetest.org |
| 13:15 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server europe.minetest.org:30000 DOWN |
| 13:19 |
kaeza |
iqualfragile: that would be good, but not all mods are hosted on github |
| 13:19 |
iqualfragile |
it will just ignore hosts wich are not updateable via a git or hg-repository |
| 13:19 |
iqualfragile |
and i think we should force everybody to have such a repository |
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| 13:20 |
iqualfragile |
or at least a link wich allways points to the newest version of their mod |
| 13:20 |
iqualfragile |
so its wget-able |
| 13:20 |
kaeza |
iqualfragile: also, bash scripts are bad for windows |
| 13:20 |
iqualfragile |
kaeza: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH |
| 13:20 |
Jordach |
kaeza, CYGWIN. |
| 13:20 |
iqualfragile |
wtf? who is gona host a server on windows? |
| 13:20 |
Jordach |
iqualfragile, ^^ |
| 13:21 |
iqualfragile |
you be kidding me? |
| 13:21 |
Jordach |
iqualfragile, i do |
| 13:21 |
kaeza |
Jordach: I know |
| 13:21 |
kaeza |
but still... |
| 13:21 |
kaeza |
also MinGW32/MSYS |
| 13:21 |
iqualfragile |
nope, no windows-support from my side |
| 13:21 |
iqualfragile |
but i think those scripts could be rewritten in bat or whateverz |
| 13:22 |
* Jordach |
prefers updating things by hand] |
| 13:22 |
kaeza |
okay, so let's say we drop win support... |
| 13:22 |
kaeza |
we cannot force everyone to use github |
| 13:22 |
Jordach |
kaeza, if minetest lost win32 support minetest would be dead |
| 13:22 |
Jordach |
colder and 0 kelvin |
| 13:22 |
Jordach |
than |
| 13:22 |
kaeza |
Jordach: it's an hypothetical scenario |
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| 13:24 |
kaeza |
but also forcing mod devs to add a mod info file with download link is a no-no |
| 13:25 |
iqualfragile |
kaeza: why? |
| 13:25 |
kaeza |
and a config file would be too big |
| 13:25 |
iqualfragile |
kaeza: not force everybody to use github |
| 13:25 |
iqualfragile |
but hg or git |
| 13:25 |
iqualfragile |
i dont care where its hosted |
| 13:25 |
markveidemanis |
Hi all, |
| 13:25 |
markveidemanis |
I have Just Put My Server Up |
| 13:26 |
kaeza |
hi markveidemanis |
| 13:26 |
markveidemanis |
Heloo |
| 13:26 |
markveidemanis |
Hello |
| 13:26 |
markveidemanis |
want to check out my server? |
| 13:26 |
kaeza |
not now, sorry |
| 13:27 |
markveidemanis |
creative for building spawn, need to have it in survival ASAP |
| 13:27 |
markveidemanis |
anyone want to? |
| 13:27 |
markveidemanis |
preferably a good builder |
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| 13:42 |
kaeza |
iqualfragile: how about something like this? http://pastebin.com/E6ZsA2d2 |
| 13:42 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: [Bash] lalala - Pastebin.com |
| 13:43 |
kaeza |
(as a base) |
| 13:43 |
iqualfragile |
one does not use cat | grep |
| 13:44 |
iqualfragile |
use grep 'filter' file instead |
| 13:44 |
kaeza |
meh, just my style |
| 13:44 |
iqualfragile |
or at least grep 'filter' < file |
| 13:45 |
iqualfragile |
kaeza: while that "might" work there is no real guarantee that there will be only one link wich points to the file |
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| 13:45 |
kaeza |
yeah |
| 13:45 |
kaeza |
I tried it here |
| 13:45 |
kaeza |
and cannot actually find the links in most mods |
| 13:45 |
kaeza |
but whatever |
| 13:45 |
kaeza |
was just bored |
| 13:46 |
iqualfragile |
there is not even a guarantee that there is a readme |
| 13:46 |
kaeza |
there *should* be a readme in every mod |
| 13:46 |
iqualfragile |
== there should be a repos for every mod |
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| 13:47 |
kaeza |
wrong; most users are not familiar with git and don't want to learn how to use an "useless program" (as I've heard some say) |
| 13:48 |
iqualfragile |
hg init, hg serv |
| 13:48 |
iqualfragile |
or hg init hg pus |
| 13:48 |
kaeza |
s/users/average users/ |
| 13:48 |
iqualfragile |
du kannst nicht zufälligerweise deutsch? |
| 13:48 |
iqualfragile |
kaeza |
| 13:48 |
kaeza |
niet |
| 13:49 |
kaeza |
? |
| 13:49 |
iqualfragile |
ok |
| 13:49 |
iqualfragile |
well, then we have to get something like bukkit |
| 13:50 |
kaeza |
no what I mean is that we should not force users to use *a single type* of repo |
| 13:51 |
iqualfragile |
who said that? |
| 13:51 |
kaeza |
i.e a mod can use git, hg, svn, dropbox, ... |
| 13:51 |
iqualfragile |
i would be allrigt with either: hg, git, any kind ov versioning-system |
| 13:52 |
iqualfragile |
and any link wich is wget-able and allways points to the newest version |
| 13:52 |
kaeza |
dropbox/mediafire/ompldr are not versioning systems IIRC |
| 13:52 |
kaeza |
oh |
| 13:52 |
kaeza |
yeah |
| 13:54 |
kaeza |
but the issue now is how to maintain a database of mods. maybe rubenwardy can host one on his "Minetest Extensions" website |
| 13:54 |
kaeza |
I mean, links to latest version of mods |
| 13:54 |
iqualfragile |
thats no real problem, the database-backend is very simple |
| 13:55 |
iqualfragile |
but celeron55 would need to make that official |
| 13:55 |
kaeza |
true |
| 13:57 |
kaeza |
we need a central/official db, otherwise lists may de-sync and blah blah blah |
| 13:59 |
kaeza |
actually it doesn't matter if it's "official" as long as the db maintainer tries to keep the db up-to-date somehow |
| 13:59 |
kaeza |
s/tries to keep/keeps/ |
| 14:07 |
Jordach |
minetest is never going to have a central modding base since xyz over there acts negative about them |
| 14:09 |
Jordach |
(even acts pissy about central minetest documentation) |
| 14:11 |
kaeza |
meh. so that will be another wasted effort IMHO |
| 14:11 |
sapier |
there are already 3 "central" mod repositorys ... only way to get it really centralized is adding some sort of modserver support to core. I've got an idea we rename mod to app at same step and minetest gonna get much more fancy without having to do lots of work ;-) |
| 14:12 |
kaeza |
Mac OS fan, huh? |
| 14:12 |
sapier |
central modserver would be same benefit apple did when creating a single source of software for its platform ... the appstore |
| 14:13 |
NakedFury |
if you dont like apple think of it as an android and its Google Play store |
| 14:13 |
kaeza |
ditto Ubuntu, Debian, Puppy, etc etc |
| 14:13 |
kaeza |
*any Linux* |
| 14:14 |
sapier |
I don't like apple I don't even like the concept of having only one source of software but it's easy and that seems the only thing that matters |
| 14:14 |
kaeza |
yeah |
| 14:14 |
kaeza |
but no special 'approved by c55' bullshit |
| 14:15 |
sapier |
but adding some sort of mod repository / mod packaging to minetest core would be something in between |
| 14:15 |
kaeza |
I mean, any modder out there can get their creation on the 'mod store' |
| 14:16 |
sapier |
if you use repositorys even any modder could create its own mod store |
| 14:16 |
sapier |
but obviously having ones mod on a more common mod store would make things more comfortable for users |
| 14:17 |
iqualfragile |
Jordach, kaeza, sapier: good news, celeron is willing to host a official db at minetest.net, it would be possible to use the punbb-credentials to log into the db |
| 14:17 |
kaeza |
\o/ |
| 14:18 |
sapier |
there are already project out there doing it this way but as it's not part of core it's of no use to do packaging work |
| 14:18 |
sapier |
@iqualfragile sounds great |
| 14:19 |
sapier |
so we just need to get a mod or core enhancement in place to read that db by default? |
| 14:26 |
iqualfragile |
we need to create a db first :D |
| 14:26 |
iqualfragile |
but that should not be too hard |
| 14:27 |
iqualfragile |
we could even try to parse the forum-posts |
| 14:27 |
sapier |
:-) much more easy than adding anything to core ;-) |
| 14:27 |
iqualfragile |
in case of doubt: use self-written bash-scripts |
| 14:28 |
sapier |
I don't think that'd be necessary if there was a mod browser in core reading db any mod creator will be eager to put her/his mod to that db |
| 14:28 |
sapier |
there should be some sort of rating system in there too |
| 14:28 |
kaeza |
definitely |
| 14:29 |
iqualfragile |
i have allready drafted a db for that some weeks ago |
| 14:29 |
iqualfragile |
but im not good at html/design to be honest |
| 14:29 |
kaeza |
iqualfragile: what would be HTML for? |
| 14:29 |
iqualfragile |
we could allso use texturepacks |
| 14:30 |
iqualfragile |
for having a good website to browse the mods? |
| 14:30 |
kaeza |
rubenwardy has one |
| 14:30 |
iqualfragile |
*use it for texturepacks* |
| 14:30 |
sapier |
in game mod browser won't use html ... but of course having a website to see same information would be fine |
| 14:31 |
iqualfragile |
i know (both) |
| 14:31 |
iqualfragile |
well, then lets get rubenwardy to adapt his application to minetest.net |
| 14:31 |
kaeza |
sapier: does the MT gui support multiline text fields? |
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| 14:32 |
kaeza |
we could embed a short desc on the GUI |
| 14:32 |
kaeza |
(plain text only of course) |
| 14:34 |
sapier |
first of all there needs to be someone to code it ... I'd probably do it but it's lots of work I've already done lots of work for trash for minetest |
| 14:34 |
sapier |
as long as there's not even a signal that mod browser has chances to be included to core I wont start ;-) |
| 14:35 |
kaeza |
good point |
| 14:35 |
iqualfragile |
sapier: a mod-database would be a good archivement for starters, wouldnt it? |
| 14:35 |
kaeza |
how about a separate mod manager |
| 14:35 |
kizeren |
In game mod browser i don't see working properly. |
| 14:36 |
kizeren |
Too many different ways to compile and run minetest would be coding nightmare to make sure the game knows where it is at. |
| 14:36 |
sapier |
@iqualfragile an official "moddb" would be a starting point ... but there are already moddbs ... why should an official one make things that better? |
| 14:37 |
sapier |
@kizeren you don't have to support any mode at beginning |
| 14:37 |
kaeza |
not necessarily an official one, but a central one |
| 14:38 |
sapier |
@kaeza it's only "central" if every mod creator adds her/his mods why should anyone do this if it doesn't have any benefit? |
| 14:38 |
kaeza |
well, then we get to the chicken or the egg |
| 14:38 |
sapier |
an "official" blessin is a starting point ... no more |
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| 14:38 |
kaeza |
no one will put the mods there because there is no gain |
| 14:39 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 14:39 |
iqualfragile |
sapier: because its offical, creators dont have to create a new accont |
| 14:39 |
iqualfragile |
hi adam |
| 14:39 |
kaeza |
and no one will gain because there are no mods there |
| 14:39 |
iqualfragile |
and we could parse the forums |
| 14:39 |
kaeza |
hi PilzAdam |
| 14:39 |
sapier |
yes thats a benefit ;-) a small one but still it raises chances |
| 14:40 |
iqualfragile |
sapier: celeron sais that he would include a mod-manager with support for the mod-database |
| 14:40 |
sapier |
that'd be best way to do it |
| 14:40 |
iqualfragile |
gave me that link to a discussion about a mod-manager without db-support: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2012-12-26#i_2756866 |
| 14:40 |
moltenbot |
Masters link: IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2012-12-26 |
| 14:40 |
sapier |
at least in my opinion |
| 14:44 |
sapier |
seem's this discussin already took place 2 days ago |
| 14:59 |
iqualfragile |
john_minetest: why decentralized? |
| 15:00 |
iqualfragile |
oh, great… |
| 15:01 |
iqualfragile |
you just would be unable to update your mods or get new mods ingame… |
| 15:01 |
iqualfragile |
yeah, the server-database is a bad idea |
| 15:02 |
NakedFury |
have 3 central databases around the world. when 1 crashes the next one takes the central position, and it keeps going in a circle |
| 15:02 |
iqualfragile |
while the local server-list is great |
| 15:02 |
kaeza |
iqualfragile: cached db? |
| 15:03 |
iqualfragile |
… |
| 15:03 |
iqualfragile |
that would make me trust 300 parties instead of one |
| 15:03 |
NakedFury |
many databases that are all updated at the same time and you can choose from which database to download[in case it is closer to you] and their purpose it to serve as backup for crashing emergencies of the primary one |
| 15:05 |
iqualfragile |
guys, lets first have such a database, we can later switch to a distributed hashtable |
| 15:06 |
kaeza |
well, so the DB *will* be in master then? |
| 15:06 |
kaeza |
is that confirmed? |
| 15:06 |
iqualfragile |
http://pastebin.com/62tJqGXR |
| 15:06 |
kaeza |
s/DB/mod manager/ |
| 15:06 |
moltenbot |
Masters link: 16:06:45 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with iqualfragile 16:06:45 <iqua - Pastebin.com |
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| 15:08 |
kaeza |
good |
| 15:08 |
kaeza |
hi hmmmm |
| 15:09 |
NakedFury |
looks like celeron is on board this idea |
| 15:09 |
Jordach |
:o |
| 15:09 |
Jordach |
:O |
| 15:10 |
NakedFury |
thi new humble bundle has 10 games |
| 15:10 |
NakedFury |
9 and 1 movie |
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| 15:16 |
kaeza |
jeez, somebody should teach that guy Ragnar about the 'edit' button |
| 15:18 |
Jordach |
kaeza, same |
| 15:22 |
Jordach |
ragnar is being a 8yr old again |
| 15:22 |
Jordach |
deal with it. |
| 15:23 |
kizeren |
john_minetest: That was what I suggested to kaeza for a mod manager. |
| 15:23 |
kaeza |
first, fck Arch; second, let's not start another Linux flamewar, and third, +1 |
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davidpace |
Hello All! |
| 15:24 |
kaeza |
hi davidpace |
| 15:25 |
davidpace |
:-) |
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| 15:31 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: If you think things will get cluttered, you can split them, else we can just have everything in main. |
| 15:32 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: do you think single namespace is better? |
| 15:32 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: I have a suspicion it might be, but the namespace thing would also give clear indication of what each article is about |
| 15:34 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: you can think of structure and tell me later ^^ |
| 15:34 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: I'll ponder it on my commute |
| 15:34 |
thexyz |
because I really don't know how should it look |
| 15:43 |
markveidemanis |
anyone going to come on my server? |
| 15:43 |
markveidemanis |
anyone? |
| 15:48 |
kaeza |
markveidemanis: what mods do you have in there? |
| 15:48 |
markveidemanis |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3954 |
| 15:49 |
kaeza |
meh |
| 15:50 |
markveidemanis |
? |
| 15:50 |
kaeza |
since I'm a bit bored I'll try it |
| 15:50 |
markveidemanis |
YAY |
| 15:52 |
kaeza |
nice & fast |
| 15:52 |
kaeza |
at least at login :) |
| 15:55 |
kaeza |
a bit laggy |
| 15:56 |
markveidemanis |
OldCoder |
| 15:56 |
markveidemanis |
i am proving to him that people will join my server so he will host it on his VPS |
| 15:57 |
markveidemanis |
5 people online! |
| 15:57 |
markveidemanis |
a record for me |
| 15:58 |
kaeza |
too laggy for me now |
| 15:58 |
kaeza |
but I like it |
| 15:58 |
kizeren |
laggy yes can't see anything |
| 15:58 |
leo_rockway |
somebody named mancho is the only one who ever joins my server. |
| 15:58 |
leo_rockway |
I don't even join my server... |
| 15:59 |
kaeza |
leo_rockway: IP por favor? |
| 15:59 |
Exio |
lol |
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iqualfragile |
oh, wow, that are quite some mods |
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| 16:00 |
kaeza |
yeah, not like in that crappy site rub... o hai rubenwardy! :D |
| 16:00 |
iqualfragile |
markveidemanis: moltenbot does not ignore you anymore |
| 16:01 |
iqualfragile |
rubenwardy: can you adapt your mod-database to use the accounts from a punbb-forum? |
| 16:02 |
leo_rockway |
kaeza: tekk.com.ar |
| 16:02 |
kaeza |
leo_rockway: k |
| 16:02 |
leo_rockway |
kaeza: you had already joined. You're even admin there. |
| 16:03 |
kaeza |
my memory is bad :( |
| 16:03 |
kaeza |
I should purchase a new one |
| 16:03 |
leo_rockway |
DDR3 |
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| 16:03 |
Exio |
kaeza: as i said, http://downloadmoreram.com/! |
| 16:04 |
Exio |
moltenbot: ping |
| 16:04 |
kaeza |
!ping 127.0.0.1 |
| 16:04 |
moltenbot |
64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.024 ms |
| 16:05 |
Exio |
Title: Download More RAM! (at downloadmoreram.com) |
| 16:05 |
Exio |
./nick Exiobot |
| 16:05 |
rubenwardy |
(4:01:17 PM) iqualfragile: rubenwardy: can you adapt your mod-database to use the accounts from a punbb-forum? |
| 16:05 |
rubenwardy |
I will be doing that soon, it should be easy. |
| 16:05 |
rubenwardy |
(the hardest part is redoing the mod ownership) |
| 16:06 |
iqualfragile |
that would be great, because celeron said he would host it (read the logs) |
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| 16:07 |
rubenwardy |
i know, he told me |
| 16:08 |
iqualfragile |
Exio: if you provide vaild urls moltenbot will answer: http://downloadmoreram.com/ |
| 16:08 |
moltenbot |
Masters link: Download More RAM! |
| 16:08 |
kaeza |
heck, I'm lagging everywhere now |
| 16:08 |
Exio |
ah, without the !? |
| 16:08 |
iqualfragile |
jup |
| 16:08 |
iqualfragile |
and: why the hell? who would belive that you can download ram? |
| 16:09 |
kaeza |
Exio: moltenbot thinks it's part of the URL |
| 16:09 |
Exio |
i saw kaeza |
| 16:09 |
* rubenwardy |
is looking at the history# |
| 16:09 |
Exio |
iqualfragile: joke :P |
| 16:10 |
kaeza |
well, IDK if Exio could DL my keyboard last night |
| 16:10 |
Exio |
hahaha |
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| 16:11 |
kaeza |
Exio: I changed the link: http://house/trashcan/keyboard.rar |
| 16:11 |
Exio |
why .rar? |
| 16:11 |
kaeza |
duh |
| 16:11 |
kaeza |
better compression? |
| 16:11 |
Exio |
tar.lzma |
| 16:11 |
rubenwardy |
<sapier> I don't think that'd be necessary if there was a mod browser in core reading db any mod creator will be eager to put her/his mod to that db |
| 16:11 |
rubenwardy |
there should be some sort of rating system in there too |
| 16:12 |
rubenwardy |
Minetest Extensions does that |
| 16:12 |
kaeza |
(12:25:23) sapier: there should be some sort of rating system in there too |
| 16:12 |
kaeza |
rubenwardy: ^ |
| 16:13 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, there is a like system |
| 16:13 |
rubenwardy |
I just need someone to do some sliders |
| 16:14 |
rubenwardy |
I dont have flash, and i have no idea how to start in js |
| 16:14 |
kaeza |
don't ask me |
| 16:14 |
rubenwardy |
i could do a radio button system |
| 16:14 |
kaeza |
I suck at JS |
| 16:14 |
rubenwardy |
http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/manual/ |
| 16:15 |
leo_rockway |
ACTION[ServerThread]: CHAT: <kaeza> ALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE |
| 16:15 |
sapier |
@rubenwardy sorry I've been busy for a while and don't quite get what do you intend to tell me? |
| 16:15 |
leo_rockway |
hahaha |
| 16:15 |
Exio |
lol |
| 16:15 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 16:15 |
leo_rockway |
it's an abandoned world o.o |
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leo_rockway |
mancho does join up every day, apparently. And he builds stuff. |
| 16:16 |
leo_rockway |
at least that's what the logs say |
| 16:16 |
sapier |
i know there are mod lists doing this but no "official" one |
| 16:16 |
kaeza |
I should say "WIIIIILSOOOOOOON!" |
| 16:16 |
rubenwardy |
mine will be official soon |
| 16:16 |
rubenwardy |
as soon as i implement punbb support |
| 16:16 |
rubenwardy |
which is easy |
| 16:17 |
sapier |
I'm looking forward to it :) |
| 16:17 |
Jordach |
leo_rockway, whats your server ip? |
| 16:17 |
kaeza |
leo_rockway: I saw a nice (?) tower with a blinky plant on top |
| 16:17 |
* Jordach |
is interested |
| 16:17 |
rubenwardy |
My minetest manual basis: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/manual/ |
| 16:17 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Minetest Manual |
| 16:17 |
kaeza |
rubenwardy: +1 |
| 16:17 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest-manual |
| 16:17 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: rubenwardy/minetest-manual ? GitHub |
| 16:18 |
* Jordach |
loves beer |
| 16:19 |
markveidemanis_ |
MY SERVER IS FULL NOW |
| 16:19 |
kaeza |
john_minetest: spanish translators have the very bad habit of changing names |
| 16:20 |
kaeza |
so I may be wrong |
| 16:20 |
kaeza |
oh |
| 16:20 |
kaeza |
nvm |
| 16:20 |
rubenwardy |
sapier: Minetest Extensions is just a database with a HTML front, mod managers can get information from it. |
| 16:20 |
rubenwardy |
the 3m mod manager is compatible with it |
| 16:21 |
* kaeza |
checks wikipedia |
| 16:21 |
leo_rockway |
Jordach: tekk.com.ar |
| 16:22 |
leo_rockway |
Wilson was the brand of the ball, I think. Not that I ever watched the movie, but I have seen balls of that brand, IIRC. |
| 16:24 |
kaeza |
yup |
| 16:25 |
sapier |
@rubenwardy as I've told I'm looking forward for it to be included in minetest default game .. I've got 10+ mods it's lots of work to do packaging for each of it anytime I do a release .. by now to less ppl were using it to be worth it |
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PilzAdam |
Tereasology has an interesting water flowing system |
| 16:28 |
PilzAdam |
the flowing_water blocks are cubes too |
| 16:29 |
markveidemanis_ |
everyone on my server: sorry for the lagg, using worldedit |
| 16:30 |
sapier |
is there a way to tell mapgen not to create worlds in grand canyon style? I don't remember 0.4.3 generating that much clifs |
| 16:30 |
kaeza |
rubenwardy: just a small suggestion, but what do you think of an installer for Windows? |
| 16:31 |
kaeza |
I could help with that |
| 16:31 |
VanessaE |
hi all.. |
| 16:31 |
kaeza |
o hai VanessaE |
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| 16:31 |
rubenwardy |
minetest installer, or mod installer |
| 16:31 |
rubenwardy |
? |
| 16:31 |
kaeza |
rubenwardy: minetest |
| 16:31 |
rubenwardy |
minetest installer has been done, but it could be better |
| 16:31 |
VanessaE |
brb |
| 16:32 |
kaeza |
rubenwardy: do you have a link to it handy so I could review what's wrong? |
| 16:33 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, hwy |
| 16:33 |
Jordach |
hey* |
| 16:33 |
rubenwardy |
no, i dont |
| 16:34 |
kaeza |
ok |
| 16:35 |
rubenwardy |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2288 |
| 16:35 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Minetest Installer (windows-only) (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums |
| 16:35 |
rubenwardy |
kaeza |
| 16:35 |
kaeza |
checking... |
| 16:35 |
kaeza |
thanks |
| 16:36 |
kaeza |
meh |
| 16:36 |
kaeza |
link returns 404 |
| 16:37 |
kaeza |
(in the forum topic) |
| 16:37 |
kaeza |
minetest-INSTALLER-0.4.dev-20120606-c57e508-win32.ZIP (4.89 MB) File is deleted. |
| 16:38 |
kaeza |
I will try making a new one |
| 16:39 |
* rubenwardy |
is starting the punbb account support process |
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Muadtralk |
yes |
| 16:42 |
rubenwardy |
http://minetest.net/download.php |
| 16:42 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Download - Minetest |
| 16:42 |
VanessaE |
back |
| 16:42 |
rubenwardy |
VanessaE: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/manual/index.html |
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Kacey |
hello |
| 16:43 |
Kacey |
keaza neer got off i see |
| 16:43 |
Kacey |
never* |
| 16:44 |
FreeFull |
Meow |
| 16:44 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: the basic layout looks good. |
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| 16:44 |
kaeza |
hi Kacey |
| 16:44 |
kaeza |
hi VanessaE |
| 16:44 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 16:46 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4204 <--- I beat out everyone else!? |
| 16:46 |
VanessaE |
I claim sample bias! :-) |
| 16:47 |
kaeza |
Kacey: wot |
| 16:47 |
Kacey |
VanessaE: i finished the decoder |
| 16:47 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: screenshot? |
| 16:47 |
Kacey |
later let me get this whole device finished |
| 16:47 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: kudos |
| 16:47 |
kaeza |
;) |
| 16:48 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: ok |
| 16:48 |
rubenwardy |
(4:46:49 PM) john_minetest: rubenwardy: "installing minetest" and "inst ... done |
| 16:48 |
rubenwardy |
done |
| 16:48 |
kaeza |
WOW I got 5 votes!! ^_^ |
| 16:48 |
* Jordach |
still finds it funny that no one has voted except for the well known members |
| 16:49 |
kaeza |
thanks guys :) |
| 16:49 |
Muadtralk |
a vote? |
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| 16:50 |
Muadtralk |
where? |
| 16:50 |
rubenwardy |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4204 |
| 16:50 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: [Poll] Respected Community Members (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums |
| 16:51 |
Muadtralk |
ahem why is mijyn and lkjoel counted as seperate votes? |
| 16:51 |
Muadtralk |
under number 10 |
| 16:51 |
Muadtralk |
he is listed twice |
| 16:51 |
Jordach |
they are the same dude/dudette |
| 16:51 |
rubenwardy |
oh |
| 16:52 |
Kacey |
i need to be in that... |
| 16:52 |
NakedFury |
those that left should get an automatic -2 votes as penalty |
| 16:52 |
rubenwardy |
fixed |
| 16:55 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 16:55 |
M13 |
rudenwardy, PM? |
| 16:56 |
rubenwardy |
if you would like. |
| 16:58 |
Kacey |
5 programmed in |
| 16:59 |
Kacey |
one-third of the way done.... |
| 16:59 |
Kacey |
brb |
| 17:00 |
M13 |
celeron55 |
| 17:01 |
rubenwardy |
M13: oldcoder could help |
| 17:01 |
M13 |
he in sleeping |
| 17:01 |
M13 |
ill wait intel he wakes |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
s/intel/until |
| 17:03 |
kaeza |
*intel* celeron @ 55 MHz? |
| 17:05 |
M13 |
<kaeza> *intel* celeron @ 55 MHz? |
| 17:05 |
M13 |
damn thats fast |
| 17:05 |
M13 |
lol |
| 17:06 |
kaeza |
;) |
| 17:06 |
rubenwardy |
bye all |
| 17:06 |
kaeza |
bye rw |
| 17:07 |
VanessaE |
seeya |
| 17:08 |
M13 |
VanessaE |
| 17:08 |
PilzAdam |
hi VanessaE |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 17:08 |
M13 |
PM?? |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
sure |
| 17:08 |
M13 |
ok |
| 17:10 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=59979#p59979 |
| 17:10 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: Mese has changed! (Page 2) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
| 17:13 |
VanessaE |
answered. |
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PilzAdam |
VanessaE, you get it wrong |
| 17:16 |
VanessaE |
what? |
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| 17:16 |
Kacey |
disconnected |
| 17:18 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, old mese blocks will be converted to new ones (no building will be destroyed); crystals in stone is generated instead of the old mese blocks (like in current git); mese blocks are craftable into 4 crystals and vise versa; mese blocks are generated very deep underground |
| 17:18 |
PilzAdam |
this could be a good solution |
| 17:19 |
VanessaE |
mese blocks are already craftable - from 9 crystals (and vice versa_ |
| 17:19 |
PilzAdam |
still the same |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
someone's using qwerty |
| 17:19 |
VanessaE |
it doesn't solve the problem though |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
hi :) |
| 17:19 |
PilzAdam |
well, it does |
| 17:20 |
VanessaE |
people want their old black-on-yellow mese objects is the problem |
| 17:20 |
PilzAdam |
thats only a texture thing |
| 17:20 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 17:20 |
VanessaE |
it's a nodename thing also |
| 17:20 |
VanessaE |
it *HAS TO BE* default:mese or the object becomes worthless. |
| 17:20 |
VanessaE |
(because then it doesn't work in any recipe) |
| 17:20 |
PilzAdam |
sure, name the new mese block mese |
| 17:21 |
PilzAdam |
wheres the problem? |
| 17:21 |
VanessaE |
the new block should not generate underground - it's a craftable block, not a naturally-occuring object |
| 17:21 |
VanessaE |
same reason we don't spawn steel blocks underground |
| 17:21 |
PilzAdam |
diamonds are also underground in RL |
| 17:22 |
VanessaE |
but not diamond *blocks* |
| 17:22 |
PilzAdam |
diamonds are compressed carbon |
| 17:22 |
PilzAdam |
and mese blocks are compressed mese crystals |
| 17:22 |
VanessaE |
incorrect - diamonds are compressed *coal*. Not compressed carbon. |
| 17:23 |
PilzAdam |
this doesnt change anything |
| 17:23 |
NakedFury |
just fuck the chage if you still want those blocks to be generated otherwise just generate crystals and from that craft mese blocks |
| 17:23 |
VanessaE |
the carbon in a diamond is the crystal lattice arrangement of the carbon atoms therein, with some impurities. The carbon is not compressed any tighter than any other carbon compound |
| 17:23 |
iqualfragile |
VanessaE: you know what coal consists of? |
| 17:23 |
iqualfragile |
carbon |
| 17:23 |
VanessaE |
iqualfragile: carbon, mostly. |
| 17:23 |
M13 |
VanessaE, I got a ssh server up |
| 17:23 |
iqualfragile |
and the rest is not in the diamonds |
| 17:23 |
VanessaE |
iqualfragile: but coal is carbon + air + a lot of stuff that doesn't burn |
| 17:24 |
PilzAdam |
generating mese blocks deep underground would prevent the inconsistency in the use of old and new mese |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
M13: thanks |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
8D |
| 17:24 |
iqualfragile |
so: diamonds are compressed diamonds |
| 17:24 |
iqualfragile |
ühm… |
| 17:24 |
leo_rockway |
hey, bro, I heard you like diamonds... |
| 17:24 |
iqualfragile |
so: diamods are compressed carbon |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
M13: consider 1) using a custom port for SSH, 2) using a (very) strong password :P |
| 17:24 |
leo_rockway |
using ssh keys |
| 17:25 |
leo_rockway |
and disabling password login through ssh |
| 17:25 |
VanessaE |
iqualfragile: still doesn't change the fact that diamond blocks don't exist in nature |
| 17:25 |
leo_rockway |
and disabling root login |
| 17:25 |
Calinou |
under buntus, root login is disabled by default |
| 17:25 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, i thought we were talking about mese |
| 17:25 |
Calinou |
ssh keys are overrated |
| 17:25 |
Calinou |
overcomplicated, too |
| 17:25 |
Kacey |
6 coded in |
| 17:25 |
Calinou |
use very long passwords, like, at least 50 characters |
| 17:25 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: you started it :-) |
| 17:26 |
iqualfragile |
VanessaE: there are, the largest diamonds found are gigantic! |
| 17:26 |
NakedFury |
under that rule we should also have iron blocks deep underground |
| 17:27 |
NakedFury |
and coal blocks too |
| 17:27 |
PilzAdam |
NakedFury, no, because mese is something special |
| 17:28 |
leo_rockway |
Calinou: I think 50 characters passwords are more complicated than a key |
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| 17:28 |
NakedFury |
yep, it has an ugly texture |
| 17:28 |
Calinou |
leo_rockway: less 8) |
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| 17:28 |
VanessaE |
iqualfragile: the largest diamond in the world is still "only" about 3100 carats |
| 17:28 |
Calinou |
you need something like 600 characters (a-z A-Z 0-9) if you want as much security |
| 17:28 |
M13 |
Calinou, PM |
| 17:28 |
M13 |
can you help? |
| 17:28 |
Calinou |
but if you use special chars, it gets much better |
| 17:29 |
VanessaE |
not sure how that translates to geometric size though. |
| 17:29 |
Calinou |
use non-ASCII maybe |
| 17:29 |
Calinou |
eg. é, × |
| 17:29 |
VanessaE |
certainly less than 1m cube :-) |
| 17:29 |
Calinou |
(are these allowed in UNIX passwords?) |
| 17:29 |
VanessaE |
and there's only one of those in the world. |
| 17:29 |
leo_rockway |
Calinou: most likely. |
| 17:29 |
iqualfragile |
NakedFury: no, you need to smelt ore before you got iron-blocks |
| 17:29 |
Kacey |
my guy in minetest is super strong |
| 17:30 |
Kacey |
he carries around tons of stone |
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| 17:31 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: at any rate.. old mese should go away over time. |
| 17:31 |
leo_rockway |
Kacey: that's because he was part of an alien experiment |
| 17:31 |
VanessaE |
if we keep generating it, at any depth, it will never go away, which defeats the whole purpose of the new mese model. |
| 17:32 |
VanessaE |
and if that's the case you may as well revert my "new mese" commit and relegate it to some obscure mod that no one will ever use. |
| 17:32 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 17:32 |
VanessaE |
(of course I'd prefer that didn't happen) |
| 17:33 |
devlab |
i'm curious if the developer of the lavacooling mod is here, Hello |
| 17:33 |
Kacey |
Max made that i think.... |
| 17:34 |
Kacey |
who does it say on the forums... |
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| 17:36 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: so what's the decision here? Is old mese deprecated in favor of the new model, or was this all a bunch of wasted work? |
| 17:36 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, what do you think about this: https://gist.github.com/4400060 ? |
| 17:36 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: gist:4400060 |
| 17:36 |
kaeza |
we are making efforts to make a wider audience aware of minetest, so, IMHO, a wacky yellow block defeats also the purpise of this initiative. Those who want it for nostalgia should use the new_mese (or whatchacallit) mof |
| 17:36 |
* VanessaE |
looks |
| 17:36 |
PilzAdam |
it converts old mese into the new block and spawns crystals |
| 17:37 |
kaeza |
purpose* mod* |
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| 17:37 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: why do you craft old mese out of 6 crystals, but it crafts back to 9 crystals? |
| 17:38 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 17:38 |
PilzAdam |
the diff is just cut off |
| 17:38 |
Muadtralk |
VanessaE and Pilzadam Meseblocks cant be used as fuel |
| 17:38 |
VanessaE |
oh right, diff artifact. |
| 17:38 |
Muadtralk |
why is this? |
| 17:38 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: use a crystal. |
| 17:38 |
Muadtralk |
no |
| 17:38 |
Muadtralk |
but im saying |
| 17:38 |
Muadtralk |
if something is made out of burnable crystals |
| 17:39 |
Muadtralk |
it should be burnable as well |
| 17:39 |
PilzAdam |
yea, Ill remove that |
| 17:39 |
Zeg9 |
PilzAdam, I like your idea of having mese blocks spawning deeper |
| 17:39 |
PilzAdam |
(the burnable crystal) |
| 17:39 |
PilzAdam |
Zeg9, will add this maybe |
| 17:39 |
PilzAdam |
and it wasnt my idea |
| 17:39 |
Muadtralk |
or just add burnable mese_blocks |
| 17:39 |
leo_rockway |
so mese == dilitium \o/ |
| 17:39 |
Muadtralk |
cause thats what i use as fuel anyway |
| 17:39 |
Zeg9 |
Well, I like someone's idea of spawning mese blocks deeper :D |
| 17:39 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: this gist is on top of my unmerged commit? |
| 17:40 |
NakedFury |
make 2 versions. one to please you all and the other for people that just dont want a block with words on it and would like to move forward and not be stuck in the past |
| 17:40 |
PilzAdam |
nope |
| 17:40 |
kaeza |
Muadtralk: why not use plain coal? |
| 17:40 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, on top of git |
| 17:40 |
PilzAdam |
*current git |
| 17:40 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 17:40 |
Muadtralk |
cause mese used to burn better |
| 17:40 |
Muadtralk |
and old habits die hard |
| 17:40 |
PilzAdam |
it basically is your patch but without the "old_mese" block |
| 17:41 |
kaeza |
Muadtralk: yes, but coal is much more easy to find |
| 17:41 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: ok, merge it I guess. |
| 17:41 |
kaeza |
I have like 10000 coal lumps (literally) |
| 17:41 |
PilzAdam |
Jeija, https://gist.github.com/4400060 if this gets upstream you have to change mesecons; mesecons wire recipe overrides the block -> 9 crystals recipe |
| 17:41 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: gist:4400060 |
| 17:41 |
Muadtralk |
then mese should burn longer |
| 17:41 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: he already did that. cook a crystal to get mesecons wires. |
| 17:42 |
Calinou |
mese shouldn't be an efficient fuel |
| 17:42 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, the old recipe (mese -> 16 wires) is still there and overrides the default recipe |
| 17:42 |
kaeza |
yeah |
| 17:42 |
Muadtralk |
why shouldnt it be? |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: ohh |
| 17:42 |
Muadtralk |
its a fossil fuel |
| 17:42 |
Muadtralk |
:P |
| 17:42 |
PilzAdam |
@all I removed the mese burn functionality |
| 17:42 |
Muadtralk |
no!!!! |
| 17:42 |
Calinou |
NO |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: well go ahead and merge it I guess |
| 17:42 |
kaeza |
yes!! |
| 17:42 |
Calinou |
PLEASE PUT GNOME 2 BACK |
| 17:42 |
Calinou |
oops, wrong channel |
| 17:43 |
devlab |
lol |
| 17:43 |
Muadtralk |
time to make a mese burning mod :P |
| 17:43 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 17:43 |
Jordach |
i dont think Calinou was in the wrong channel |
| 17:43 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, there is still 1 thing to discuss: should mese blocks be spawned _*very*_ rare? |
| 17:43 |
kaeza |
Muadtralk: go ahead ;) |
| 17:43 |
VanessaE |
incredibly so. |
| 17:43 |
Jordach |
near -7000 to -31000 |
| 17:43 |
VanessaE |
if you spawn them at all, |
| 17:43 |
Jeija |
No, please not! |
| 17:44 |
VanessaE |
they should be no less than 1/9 as frequent as mese-in-stone |
| 17:44 |
kaeza |
MESE picks are an extremely powerful tool |
| 17:44 |
Jeija |
I'd say spawn very few even higher than currently, maybe all in all make it rarer |
| 17:44 |
kaeza |
so it should be more rare |
| 17:44 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: did you make mese rarer when making them blocks and crystals? |
| 17:44 |
kaeza |
oh nvm |
| 17:44 |
Calinou |
should be a bit rarer imo |
| 17:44 |
NakedFury |
spawn them at 31990 deep so we can only see them for 10 blocks before its over |
| 17:44 |
VanessaE |
(er, 1/9 as frequent or even less frequent than that) |
| 17:44 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: no. |
| 17:44 |
Calinou |
minetest shouldn't be an easy game :P |
| 17:44 |
VanessaE |
I did not. |
| 17:44 |
Jeija |
wait....are we talking about mese blocks or mese ore? |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
ore |
| 17:45 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, there are currently 2 generate_ore() functions for mese; should I just change the first one to block? |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
also, why not add very rare mese blocks like PilzAdam said? |
| 17:45 |
Jeija |
because VanessaE started a conversation about spawning blocks... |
| 17:45 |
Muadtralk |
i think that mese should only be down very very far |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
and make ore rarer |
| 17:45 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, and make it deeper |
| 17:45 |
Jordach |
thats what she said! |
| 17:45 |
VanessaE |
Jeija: default:stone_with_mese as often as default:mese was, default:mese_block 1/9 as often as that, and yes certainly way deeper. |
| 17:46 |
Jeija |
That sounds good, VanessaE! |
| 17:46 |
Muadtralk |
after all the depth of minetest is massive |
| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: mese blocks at Y=-1000 and lower. |
| 17:46 |
Muadtralk |
why not use it! |
| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: if they're 9 times as valuable, they should be 8-9 times as lower since they need more pressure |
| 17:47 |
Jeija |
-1000 actually is a lot; maybe better -400? |
| 17:47 |
NakedFury |
why 1/9? why not 1/64? or something massive |
| 17:47 |
kaeza |
hmm... there really should be an ultra-mega-extremely rare material at -30000 and below :) |
| 17:47 |
PilzAdam |
Jeija, you get 9 (!) crystals with one block |
| 17:47 |
Jordach |
it should be called the core |
| 17:47 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: I don't see a recipe in your gist to do anything with default:mese_block. It should craft into 9 crystals. |
| 17:48 |
Muadtralk |
soulstone1 |
| 17:48 |
Muadtralk |
!* |
| 17:48 |
PilzAdam |
default:mese_block => default:mese |
| 17:48 |
kaeza |
DarkStone! (TM) |
| 17:48 |
Muadtralk |
it needs to be red |
| 17:48 |
VanessaE |
*facepalm* |
| 17:48 |
Jordach |
because the mese has become so pressurized it became a new element that burns |
| 17:49 |
Muadtralk |
make it ignite things! |
| 17:49 |
Muadtralk |
when placed near |
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* marktraceur |
shouts out suggestions too |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
let's add ultrabooks |
| 17:49 |
kaeza |
and hurt the player while item is in inventory! :) |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
you can't craft them into anything |
| 17:49 |
VanessaE |
guys come on |
| 17:49 |
VanessaE |
please |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
but they'll be overvalued by players |
| 17:49 |
Muadtralk |
yep! |
| 17:49 |
marktraceur |
Earth's crust ends at about -30KM, start a mantle-like substance then! |
| 17:49 |
Jordach |
like nyan cats |
| 17:50 |
kaeza |
Jordach: +1 |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
+1 Jordach |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: can you compile your other suggested changes and show me a diff against git from before my change? |
| 17:50 |
Muadtralk |
oy we dont want nyancats to be that common |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
flammable mese much |
| 17:50 |
kaeza |
umm... nyancat hell? |
| 17:50 |
leo_rockway |
nyan cats have the whole copyright issue |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: so I can see the whole mese tree in one shot? |
| 17:50 |
Muadtralk |
tac nayn! |
| 17:50 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, FUCK NO. |
| 17:50 |
marktraceur |
Add in Olivine! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivine |
| 17:50 |
moltenbot |
marktraceur's link: Olivine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| 17:50 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, here current diff: https://gist.github.com/4400209 |
| 17:50 |
thexyz |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4240 |
| 17:50 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: gist:4400209 |
| 17:50 |
moltenbot |
thexyz's link: xyz's Minetest win32 builds (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums |
| 17:51 |
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| 17:51 |
markveidemanis |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3954 |
| 17:51 |
moltenbot |
markveidemanis's link: MarkVeidemanis' Server (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums |
| 17:51 |
markveidemanis |
have i not been blocked bby the bots? |
| 17:51 |
kaeza |
Jordach: and the material should be so powerful it obliterates the chests it is put on along with all the other items :D |
| 17:51 |
marktraceur |
Mantle should be 2900KM thick, rich in Olivine, and of varying stability |
| 17:51 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, and heres a branch: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/tree/mese |
| 17:51 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: PilzAdam/minetest_game at mese ? GitHub |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: can you generate that diff against git from say commti hash 95cbfc50d8f[...] ? |
| 17:52 |
VanessaE |
I'm having trouble reading the code |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/32575377.jpg |
| 17:52 |
Jordach |
Calinou, high five |
| 17:52 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: Could you please keep the server announces down? |
| 17:52 |
kaeza |
Calinou: lol |
| 17:52 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: Dosequisite? |
| 17:53 |
Jordach |
we should name it solaris |
| 17:53 |
marktraceur |
Beergem mod: On the way! :P |
| 17:53 |
kaeza |
lol randomterrorist |
| 17:53 |
kaeza |
marktraceur: +1 |
| 17:53 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, wait, the branch is empty |
| 17:53 |
Muadtralk |
ive done it! ive updated erlehmanns cube mod! |
| 17:53 |
markveidemanis |
sure |
| 17:54 |
Jordach |
bbl |
| 17:54 |
Jordach |
installing xubuntu on my third partition |
| 17:54 |
markveidemanis |
when will OldCoder be back?! |
| 17:55 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/tree/mese |
| 17:55 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: PilzAdam/minetest_game at mese ? GitHub |
| 17:55 |
PilzAdam |
^ git diff 95cbfc50d8f7fc492f6def60720e355fdd0f62c1 HEAD |
| 17:55 |
PilzAdam |
oh, damn, wait |
| 17:56 |
iqualfragile |
third partition? ulol, i have about 5 |
| 17:57 |
Muadtralk |
i got you beat with 6 |
| 17:57 |
Muadtralk |
:P |
| 17:57 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, the mese branch on my GitHub is now with the changes |
| 17:57 |
iqualfragile |
i have just checked: 6 here, too |
| 17:57 |
PilzAdam |
forget all the diffs |
| 17:57 |
iqualfragile |
but i guess i can remove some of them soon |
| 17:58 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: let's do this: revert my commit 1bf62bbad4[...], revert the one you just made, re-apply and rebase. |
| 17:58 |
VanessaE |
so I can see all of the code changes in one commit |
| 17:59 |
PilzAdam |
umm... no? |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
I just can't make any sense of it |
| 18:00 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, reset your head to some old commit (the one before the first mese change) then merge my mese branch and look at the merge commit diff |
| 18:01 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: I think it would be better to mix both mod and core docs in the main namespace, it seems like there would be minimal overlap, and any overlap we do find can be solved with a disambiguation notice. I'd save the Mod: namespace for actually documenting individual mods. |
| 18:01 |
VanessaE |
reading.. |
| 18:02 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, heres a diff from 95cb to my changes: https://gist.github.com/4400320 |
| 18:02 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: gist:4400320 |
| 18:02 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: what do we plan to document in core, to start with, every .cpp file? every class? |
| 18:03 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Probably classes, functions, and general ideas. Also code conventions, procedures, communication methods. |
| 18:03 |
thexyz |
fine |
| 18:03 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Basically the idea is to make it possible to learn about core development on the wiki |
| 18:03 |
thexyz |
should it be moved to dev.minetest.net? |
| 18:03 |
marktraceur |
"Hey how do I do X" -> we can point them to a wiki page |
| 18:04 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: I'd suggest either wiki.minetest.net or dev.minetest.net, yes |
| 18:04 |
marktraceur |
But the api subdomain can still point to it |
| 18:04 |
thexyz |
i prefer dev., and redirect api. to it |
| 18:04 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, have there been any decision to put dev and api wiki together? |
| 18:04 |
thexyz |
yeah |
| 18:04 |
marktraceur |
Sounds good |
| 18:05 |
marktraceur |
PilzAdam: Rest assured that you won't be dragged screaming into core dev :) |
| 18:05 |
marktraceur |
PilzAdam: Not that I think it's a bad idea for you to check it out, but it's only there for you if you want to try it. |
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| 18:08 |
thexyz |
john_minetest: there's no wiki.minetest.net |
| 18:09 |
Calinou |
<iqualfragile> third partition? ulol, i have about 5 |
| 18:09 |
Calinou |
extended partitions ftl |
| 18:09 |
* Calinou |
uses msdos partition table, forgot to set to gpt when creating table |
| 18:09 |
iqualfragile |
aww patt patt |
| 18:09 |
Calinou |
4 primary patitions, one is unused because ubiquity said "no" to UEFI |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
and extended is slow as hell |
| 18:10 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: are you still against it? |
| 18:10 |
thexyz |
john_minetest: it's minetest.COM, not .NET |
| 18:11 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, I think it would be better to seperate but I'm also happy if it gets into 1 |
| 18:11 |
thexyz |
yes, and this is the problem too, too many external sites |
| 18:14 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: Hey, was just wondering |
| 18:14 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: I've had multiple people ask me about adding your mob framework to the LibrePlanet server |
| 18:14 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: But I keep telling them I can't because it's not free software |
| 18:15 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: Any chance you could distribute it under unmodified GPLv2+? |
| 18:15 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, what do you think: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/9d2a2f91791b667dab257ea34818d111c2e48049 ? |
| 18:15 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: Convert old mese to the new mese block and generate it deep underground ? 9d2a2f9 ? PilzAdam/minetest_game ? GitHub |
| 18:16 |
markveidemanis |
how can i USE the minetestserver console window? |
| 18:17 |
markveidemanis |
like grant anfd revoke |
| 18:17 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: It's not a shell, you can't issue commands from it |
| 18:17 |
kaeza |
markveidemanis: <troll>use Ctrl+C to paste</troll> |
| 18:18 |
kaeza |
</badtroll> |
| 18:18 |
leo_rockway |
kaeza: that's a bad troll... Ctrl+C is copy o.o |
| 18:18 |
PilzAdam |
updated: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/58f3330aca85b7b0f45febc38644dfda86d95dbb |
| 18:18 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: Convert old mese to the new mese block and generate it deep underground ? 58f3330 ? PilzAdam/minetest_game ? GitHub |
| 18:18 |
kaeza |
my trolling is bad, and I should feel bad :( |
| 18:18 |
markveidemanis |
how i craft the mesecons command block |
| 18:18 |
khonkhortisan |
select with mouse, then middle mouse click to paste |
| 18:20 |
markveidemanis |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3954[18:18] <+moltenbot> PilzAdam's link: Convert old mese to the new mese block and generate it deep underground |
| 18:20 |
moltenbot |
markveidemanis's link: MarkVeidemanis' Server (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums |
| 18:20 |
markveidemanis |
whoops |
| 18:21 |
thexyz |
alt+printscr+e to copy, alt+printscr+i to paste |
| 18:22 |
khonkhortisan |
that does a reboot, no? |
| 18:22 |
khonkhortisan |
sigterm, sigkill |
| 18:22 |
thexyz |
alt+sysrq+r does |
| 18:22 |
PilzAdam |
alt + printscreen + r = rebbot |
| 18:22 |
PilzAdam |
o = shutdown |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 18:23 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: Quit it with the server announces |
| 18:23 |
devlab |
reboot what? |
| 18:23 |
markveidemanis |
i did middle click |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
it's not like we are in a shortage of servers |
| 18:23 |
markveidemanis |
sorry |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
devlab: computer... :P |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
we have too many servers actually |
| 18:24 |
devlab |
su , init 6 |
| 18:24 |
khonkhortisan |
you can't just walk up to a random person's computer and type su, sysrq is much easier to do damage with |
| 18:25 |
devlab |
that works if magic sysrq is on |
| 18:25 |
khonkhortisan |
brrrrrrrrrrrrrr the garbage truck is idling a street away and won't move |
| 18:26 |
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| 18:27 |
jordach |
there, just waiting on finalising the install |
| 18:28 |
PilzAdam |
jordach, what do you think: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/d53b16de2589506dbd3a3d84e7f3a316aea10ade ? |
| 18:28 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: Convert old mese to the new mese block and generate it deep underground ? d53b16d ? PilzAdam/minetest_game ? GitHub |
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| 18:28 |
devlab |
IMHO, i think ALT + SysRq + B should be last resort |
| 18:28 |
jordach |
jeez -- my system is only running from 1gb of ram |
| 18:29 |
jordach |
PilzAdam: nice |
| 18:29 |
jordach |
its almost done |
| 18:33 |
thexyz |
oops, it was B, not R |
| 18:33 |
PilzAdam |
Ill push this mese changes upstream |
| 18:33 |
thexyz |
r is for unraw |
| 18:33 |
devlab |
haha |
| 18:33 |
jordach |
PilzAdam: sorry, but run this through VanessaE first |
| 18:34 |
PilzAdam |
Im doing this in PM right now |
| 18:34 |
jordach |
oh heck |
| 18:34 |
jordach |
OldCoder: you about? |
| 18:35 |
thexyz |
devlab: in case of frozen pc REISUB is fine |
| 18:35 |
devlab |
thexyz: i know, hence 'last resort' |
| 18:36 |
OldCoder |
jordach, Yes |
| 18:36 |
leo_rockway |
raising elephants is so utterly boring |
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devlab |
yep |
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sokomine |
does anyone of you have more detailed knowledge about the internal function of formspecs? |
| 18:48 |
Muadtralk |
ello people I am having an issue. |
| 18:48 |
Muadtralk |
08:46:39: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "cement:cement_source" at (-13,11,14) (block (-1,0,0)) |
| 18:48 |
Muadtralk |
happens when I place liquid cement |
| 18:50 |
sokomine |
there was something connected to this error but i don't remember :-( something with node not loaded? search for it in the forum |
| 18:50 |
PilzAdam |
Muadtralk, the liquid_alternative_flowing field in the cement source has an unkown node |
| 18:50 |
PilzAdam |
this causes the error |
| 18:52 |
Muadtralk |
ahhhh |
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sokomine |
really no one who has some knowledge that may help me to locate the necessary things faster? :-( |
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sokomine |
well...maybe i'm not asking the right questions |
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kaeza |
thexyz: you here? |
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Zeg9 |
brb |
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thexyz |
kaeza: yep |
| 18:57 |
kaeza |
could you try this one? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=59987#p59987 |
| 18:57 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: xyz's Minetest win32 builds (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums |
| 18:58 |
kaeza |
hope this helps somehow |
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thexyz |
kaeza: I prefer portable versions |
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Calinou |
only use of portable is if you want to carry the game on an USB drive or something like that |
| 19:02 |
kaeza |
thexyz: the installer version could be useful for those users not comfortable with that |
| 19:02 |
Calinou |
I build without run-in-place, user data stays in .minetest and can be read by any build regardless of version |
| 19:03 |
thexyz |
kaeza: you're free to make your own thread with installers |
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kaeza |
thexyz: k |
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kaeza |
nvm then |
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Minetest-tan |
GIT: PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Convert old mese to the new mese block and generate it deep underground 33ec25caed 2012-12-28T11:05:40-08:00 |
| 19:09 |
PilzAdam |
If anyone still want to complain about the new mese then got play 0.3.1 |
| 19:10 |
ecube |
new mese |
| 19:10 |
ecube |
what's new mese? |
| 19:11 |
PilzAdam |
crystals |
| 19:11 |
OldCoder |
Is the debate settled? |
| 19:11 |
PilzAdam |
if you mine crystals in stone (wich is generated) you get 1 crystal; 9 crystals give one mese block (and vise versa) that equals old mese |
| 19:12 |
PilzAdam |
OldCoder, seems so |
| 19:12 |
PilzAdam |
and the old mese is converted to the new blocks |
| 19:12 |
PilzAdam |
so the only thing that will change on existing maps is the texture of the block |
| 19:14 |
kaeza |
meh |
| 19:14 |
kaeza |
I'm out |
| 19:14 |
kaeza |
see you |
| 19:14 |
sapier1 |
@marktraceur I've once told in mobf forum thread I'm going to switch to gpl as soon as anyone substantially contributes to mobf. Until that happens the "non commercial" license addon will be preserved. ;-) |
| 19:14 |
kaeza |
:) |
| 19:14 |
ecube |
nice |
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PilzAdam |
oh, damn, I accidentally clicked on the "Wiki" button in minetest_game |
| 19:15 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: Well, you've driven away myself as a contributor and a user, so it won't happen based on me |
| 19:15 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: huh, >Last edited by celeron55, a minute ago |
| 19:16 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, thats happens when someone clicks on the wiki button |
| 19:16 |
thexyz |
oh |
| 19:17 |
PilzAdam |
c55 has fixed it already |
| 19:18 |
sapier1 |
@marktraceur may I know how I did this? |
| 19:19 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: By using a non-free license, like I said |
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sapier1 |
What do you mean with "non-free"? |
| 19:19 |
sokomine |
ah, hi sapier. i tested the newest version yesterday :-) |
| 19:20 |
sapier1 |
@sokomine plz tell a number I'm releasing very fast atm ... 1.9.x is still lot too buggy |
| 19:21 |
sokomine |
the models of the animals are very nice. only problem where a sheep moving around while in lying-down-position, cows moving sideways/backwards and heads of cows growing extremly large while eating (that way they look almost like monsters) |
| 19:21 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: Your license has restrictions on it that disallow using the software in some ways, leaving your users with less freedoms than they could have. |
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sapier1 |
@marktraceur then in your oppinion gplv2 ain't free either |
| 19:22 |
sokomine |
seems like 1.9.2; though that is mentioned twice in the changelog |
| 19:22 |
sapier1 |
then its 1.9.3 ... missed to change that number in README |
| 19:22 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: Not totally, but I am happy to inconvenience those who want to create non-free software. I'm not willing to inconvenience someone who's trying to make a living. |
| 19:23 |
thexyz |
sapier1: why did you make such modification to gplv2, in first place? |
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marktraceur |
Because CC-BY-SA-NC isn't for software, I guess |
| 19:25 |
sapier1 |
My intention was to prevent someone making money with my work without contributing anything ... I know this won't match most ppl in here but if I'd released in unmodified gplv2 I can't take that back |
| 19:26 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: You may get your wish, someone may make money with it by creating a competing mod that isn't tied down by a non-free license |
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sokomine |
sounds reasonable. some time ago distributions where helpful to get distributions out to users. nowerdays this is a service less needed (the putting things on cds/dvd to avoid download) |
| 19:27 |
thexyz |
hm.. "personal benefit" == $$$? |
| 19:27 |
Jordach |
nope. xubuntu failed on installing GRUB. BASTARD. |
| 19:27 |
ecube |
9 crystals i think, right? |
| 19:28 |
thexyz |
Jordach: install it by hand then |
| 19:28 |
Jordach |
thexyz, im not arch linux |
| 19:28 |
sapier1 |
Of course you may, I don't have any problems wit it ... by the way if I'd release under GPL then it'd be gplv3 ... which noone gonna use, having patents |
| 19:29 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: I would prefer GPLv3, actually |
| 19:29 |
thexyz |
oh, sorry, i forgot it, Jordach, mark shuttleworth stops you from doing it, right? |
| 19:30 |
sapier1 |
@marktraceur what "free" licenses would you accept? probably there's one out having an non-commercial rule too ;) |
| 19:31 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: I'd really prefer GPLv3, since it stops non-free development based on your work. But I'd accept anything that allows re-licensing to GPLv3, so long as it didn't include the noncommercial clause |
| 19:31 |
sapier1 |
so you demand gplv3 only ... not quite "free" |
| 19:31 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: I've relicensed all the mods on the LPGC server to GPLv3, most modders are helpful enough to license that way or use WTFPL |
| 19:32 |
sapier1 |
apache for example may not be relicensed within glp but is more free |
| 19:32 |
NakedFury |
so gpl3 would be the best license now? I would not want people to stop using my stuff with editing and modifying but I would like to receive credit. is gpl3 for that? |
| 19:32 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: apache can be relicensed, I remember that specifically |
| 19:32 |
thexyz |
huh.. relicensing wtfpl to gplv3, who is bad guy now? |
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sapier1 |
If you relicense to glv3 you're taking away freedom ;-) ... not quite consequent .. |
| 19:33 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: I take away the freedom to deny freedom to others. I don't see that as bad. |
| 19:34 |
marktraceur |
Congress also takes away the freedom to commit murder, but that's certainly not bad. |
| 19:34 |
sapier1 |
so this licens thing is to enforce YOUR personal license preference ... plz don't blame me for mine |
| 19:34 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: I don't. I intend to rewrite the mob framework if necessary. |
| 19:35 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: If you want to license it under apache or wtfpl or MIT, I'd also be fine with that. |
| 19:35 |
NakedFury |
marktraceur I think in this case taking our "freedom or right" to kill and steal is a good idea |
| 19:35 |
sapier1 |
you wanna relicense anything to YOUR personal preference |
| 19:36 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: Generally, yes. But that's part of the freedom you allow when you license under a permissive license. |
| 19:36 |
sapier1 |
If you wanna ensure some minimum freedom I'd accept this but I don't accept you're taking away freedom of code beeing more free than your one |
| 19:36 |
thexyz |
there's almost no point in using gpl for mods as you should only provide sources when distributing binary packages |
| 19:36 |
thexyz |
agpl suits better for that case |
| 19:37 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Don't think I haven't considered it....my impression is that this community doesn't like *normal* GPL, and they'd probably never use AGPL. |
| 19:37 |
sapier1 |
@thexyz true I was wondering if gpl is correct too |
| 19:37 |
sokomine |
yes, with mods beeing only usable as source, much of the goal of the gpl does not apply |
| 19:38 |
sapier1 |
a simple question if a mod is gplv3 can it be run in minetest at all without relicensing minetest to gplv3 |
| 19:39 |
marktraceur |
Yeah, totally. |
| 19:39 |
sapier1 |
thats your oppinion ... |
| 19:39 |
marktraceur |
The purpose of moving to lgpl was to increase the allowable licenses, not decrease. |
| 19:39 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: yeah, and I prefer wtfpl for small mods and MIT/BSD (what's the difference btw?) for large ones |
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marktraceur |
thexyz: BSD has some clauses about copyright statements IIRC |
| 19:40 |
marktraceur |
Maybe that was MIT? |
| 19:40 |
* marktraceur |
doesn't know, look it up |
| 19:40 |
sapier1 |
bsd licens allows linking your code staticaly without poisoning your code with gpl |
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sokomine |
i'm not very familiar with the details of the diffrent liscences. it is difficult to keep track of them. the required liscence for mods in the forum is a problem as well |
| 19:41 |
thexyz |
sapier1: wait, how can BSD allow that if GPL requires the opposite? |
| 19:42 |
thexyz |
oh, it seems I got it wrong |
| 19:42 |
sapier1 |
bsd is more free than gpl |
| 19:43 |
mauvebic |
new economy mod https://sites.google.com/site/mauvemods/home/nodex |
| 19:43 |
moltenbot |
mauvebic's link: nodex - mauvemods |
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sapier1 |
in company environment bsd is prefered as you ain't forced to open source your intelectual property |
| 19:43 |
leo_rockway |
AGPL is the best license for protecting one's mod, IMO. |
| 19:43 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 19:43 |
sokomine |
yes. for small mods wtfpl seems most useful. if it's hardly more than a couple of (usually very useful and nicely textured!) nodes - that's not more than filling out a form or giving sample code somewhere. anyone who wants the mod behave diffrent can change it (even from memory...) or take as a sample for another mod |
| 19:43 |
mauvebic |
what makes AGPL different though? |
| 19:43 |
leo_rockway |
mauvebic: GPL is a license applied to distribution. |
| 19:43 |
leo_rockway |
when you have a mod on a server, you're not distributing it. |
| 19:44 |
sapier1 |
@marktraceur there's a simple way to make mobf glpv3 create some 3d models write some tests and it's gonna be gplv3 ... far less work than completely rewriting it |
| 19:44 |
leo_rockway |
so you can modify it and not provide patches |
| 19:44 |
leo_rockway |
or not provide source at all |
| 19:44 |
mauvebic |
sounds tricky lol |
| 19:44 |
leo_rockway |
mauvebic: it is. |
| 19:45 |
NakedFury |
this license stuff just creates headaches |
| 19:45 |
sapier1 |
I've been releasing in wtfp some mods too ... so the non-commercial rule was just a experimental way to motivate ppl helping me ;-) |
| 19:45 |
mauvebic |
yeah i simply prefer license that spell out clearly the do's and do not's |
| 19:45 |
leo_rockway |
mauvebic: that's how it happened. There was a website (idr the name anymore) that took the source of Pidgin and started providing an instant messenger service. They never provided source... |
| 19:45 |
sapier1 |
by now it didn't work ... true |
| 19:45 |
thexyz |
NakedFury: then choose wtfpl |
| 19:45 |
leo_rockway |
that's how the AGPL came to be. |
| 19:46 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: I'm not going to contribute to the project while it's licensed under the non-free bastardized GPL. I don't write non-free software. |
| 19:46 |
mauvebic |
lol this again |
| 19:46 |
sapier1 |
gplv2/3 ain't free either ;-) |
| 19:46 |
leo_rockway |
it's GNU vs BSD all over again D: |
| 19:46 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: I don't contribute indirectly to non-free software either, hence the copyleft. |
| 19:47 |
sapier1 |
btw what about a modified wtfp limiting relicensing ;-) |
| 19:47 |
sapier1 |
you do have a somehow strange oppinion of "free" |
| 19:47 |
leo_rockway |
sapier1: you could use Sun's license if you just want to make it GPL incompatible. |
| 19:47 |
leo_rockway |
ccpl, I think it's called |
| 19:48 |
sapier1 |
nooo ... I don't wanna make it incompatible ... my only intention was to stop ppl from earning money with my work without contributing ;) |
| 19:48 |
leo_rockway |
CDDL <-- this one |
| 19:48 |
leo_rockway |
oh, okay |
| 19:48 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: If you're set on using a non-free license, just keep doing that. No reason to change if your intent is to stop people from that. |
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Jakssoul |
I love you guys./ |
| 19:50 |
thexyz |
sapier1: "do what the fuck you want except relicensing"? makes no sense at all |
| 19:50 |
sapier1 |
@marktraceur if you insist on "non free" or not |
| 19:50 |
mauvebic |
its funny that religous discussions aren't allowed but the free software zealotry is ok lol |
| 19:50 |
sapier1 |
I'm gonna license cddl ... |
| 19:50 |
sapier1 |
wich is officially free |
| 19:50 |
Jakssoul |
mauvebic, what are you talking about? |
| 19:50 |
sapier1 |
@thexyz ... I know was a bad example |
| 19:50 |
thexyz |
sapier1: just saying, that's not twitter, you don't have to prefix nicknames with @ |
| 19:50 |
mauvebic |
just pointing out how religiously some ppl take oss lol |
| 19:51 |
PilzAdam |
mauvebic, we had religious disscussions here |
| 19:51 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: Is it copyleft? |
| 19:51 |
Jakssoul |
How are religious discussions not allowed? |
| 19:51 |
mauvebic |
yeah but theyre usually discouraged from what i saw pilzadam |
| 19:51 |
Jakssoul |
I was going to say, VanessaE, OldCoder and I all had one the other day. Sort of. |
| 19:51 |
sapier1 |
no there's a "you can't sue me" rul in there not compatible with gplv2/3 |
| 19:51 |
marktraceur |
....hm. |
| 19:51 |
PilzAdam |
mauvebic, the channel topic at this day was "Blame your favourite religion today" lol |
| 19:51 |
marktraceur |
That doesn't strike me as free, who said it was? |
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Jakssoul |
PilzAdam, are you being serious? |
| 19:52 |
sapier1 |
as of fsf cddl is a free license but not compatible to gpl |
| 19:52 |
marktraceur |
Huh. |
| 19:52 |
marktraceur |
Weird. |
| 19:54 |
sapier1 |
@marktraceur ... probably the problem vanishes because of someone else contributing to mobf so I'm gonna release v3 either |
| 19:54 |
marktraceur |
If it prevents you from suing the authour, explicitly, that sounds pretty bad. But fair enough. |
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sapier1 |
but you couldn't relicense it on your server either |
| 19:55 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: why is it bad? |
| 19:56 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Not only is it stopping you from taking action with the software, but stopping you from taking action in real life? There are legitimate cases that I could bring against sapier1 in the future, and I think it's awful to use a license to prevent that. |
| 19:57 |
sapier1 |
related to that piece of software ;-) |
| 19:57 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: Well, that's just a standard, then. GPL has that, too. |
| 19:57 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: That wouldn't make it incompatible... |
| 19:57 |
sapier1 |
it IS incompatible believe me |
| 19:58 |
thexyz |
it's probably incompatible because of some other reason then |
| 19:59 |
sapier1 |
hmm maybe .. |
| 19:59 |
sapier1 |
ohhh ... cddl forbids relicensing in any other license than cddl :) ... maybe thats reason for incompatibility |
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leo_rockway |
marktraceur: cddl was made incompatible on purpose. |
| 20:00 |
leo_rockway |
so opensolaris had an advantage over linux |
| 20:00 |
leo_rockway |
namely, zfs |
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marktraceur |
That would do it |
| 20:01 |
leo_rockway |
the workaround was to develop zfs outside of linux and as part of fuse... which is plain awful, so opensolaris kept the advantage. |
| 20:01 |
VanessaE |
yay! Finally done with this whole mess: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4154 |
| 20:01 |
sapier1 |
bit I have to go now ... I've told how mobf will become gplv3 ... there may be other reasons for license change in future too but not atm |
| 20:01 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: Ta |
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Jakssoul |
You know what? |
| 20:03 |
leo_rockway |
marktraceur: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDDL#GPL_incompatibility <--- this |
| 20:03 |
moltenbot |
leo_rockway's link: Common Development and Distribution License - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
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Kacey |
hello |
| 20:03 |
NakedFury |
hey |
| 20:04 |
Kacey |
need to work on my mesecons invention |
| 20:04 |
Jakssoul |
Well, I'm going to get going since everyone is ignoring me. >_> |
| 20:06 |
NakedFury |
I hate being left haging like that...You know what? and then leaving |
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VanessaE |
bbl, food. |
| 20:10 |
Kacey |
7 coded in |
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Kacey |
... 8 more to go |
| 20:12 |
ADFENO |
I just tried to compile Minetest 0.4.3 under Trisquel Brigantia to see if my issue could be fixed, and I got the same results. |
| 20:15 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 20:15 |
ADFENO |
Hi OldCoder. |
| 20:15 |
OldCoder |
o/ |
| 20:17 |
Jordach |
hey OldCoder |
| 20:17 |
Jordach |
!up europe.minetest.org |
| 20:17 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server europe.minetest.org:30000 DOWN |
| 20:17 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, europe seems to be down |
| 20:17 |
OldCoder |
Reviewing now. Thank you. |
| 20:18 |
Kacey |
o/ OC |
| 20:19 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, The VPS itself seems to be gone. Probably not lost. This is Anunakki server. I will move the whole world to my own new Europe machine. |
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| 20:20 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, I have not seen Anunakki recently. There are two options. Wait until he shows up. Or move Europe based on most recent backup. |
| 20:20 |
Jordach |
europe machine, could you pm the reasonings? |
| 20:20 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, Hmm? I just posted them |
| 20:20 |
OldCoder |
Reasonings? |
| 20:20 |
OldCoder |
Feel free to ask here |
| 20:20 |
OldCoder |
Or PM |
| 20:20 |
Jordach |
<OldCoder> I will move the whole world to my own new Europe machine. |
| 20:20 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, It is not my machine. When this happens I therefore have no way to proceed. |
| 20:21 |
OldCoder |
I think I should move the world to a Europe machine of my own. |
| 20:21 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, I do know the VPS host slightly. I will try to reach him. |
| 20:23 |
Kacey |
8 coded in |
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OldCoder |
Jordach, I have PMd the VPS host. It appears this may be a known outage though I have not reached him. We will allow a day before moving elsewhere. |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
perhaps AWS? |
| 20:24 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, I do not understand |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
(Amazon) |
| 20:24 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, I know |
| 20:24 |
OldCoder |
What is the question? |
| 20:25 |
Jordach |
point is, if anunakki is not around, AWS would be the next best bet |
| 20:25 |
OldCoder |
I have already purchased a new Europe machine if that is what you are asking about |
| 20:25 |
Jordach |
OH! |
| 20:25 |
Jordach |
could we set a speed test? |
| 20:25 |
OldCoder |
It is quite fast :-) |
| 20:25 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, just set up a default 0.4.4 world quickly |
| 20:25 |
OldCoder |
Should work O.K. for most people in Europe |
| 20:25 |
sokomine |
besides...what kind of hardwaere does a server require? it seems very variable in singleplayer...from almost nothing to cpu-is-glowing when doing mapgen |
| 20:25 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, I had planned to last week or the week before |
| 20:26 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, there has been stuff happening that has disrupted this |
| 20:26 |
Jordach |
i know this. |
| 20:26 |
OldCoder |
sokomine, it depends on how many players you wish |
| 20:26 |
OldCoder |
and the types of worlds |
| 20:27 |
artur99 |
where can i find a tutorial for mod making? |
| 20:27 |
sokomine |
good question. who knows that in advance...if some mc classic players would be willing to play it could be some (10-20 at max?) |
| 20:27 |
Kacey |
artur99: check the API page |
| 20:28 |
sokomine |
most likely less players |
| 20:29 |
sokomine |
i'd like to convice the owner of a classic server to host a mt world as well :-) classic is so slow compared to mt... |
| 20:29 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, start the EU aws on beta.eu.minetest.org |
| 20:29 |
artur99 |
kacey: where is the api page? |
| 20:29 |
Jordach |
api.minetest.net |
| 20:30 |
Jordach |
or http://api.minetest.net |
| 20:30 |
moltenbot |
Jordach's link: Minetest API |
| 20:30 |
artur99 |
thanks |
| 20:34 |
leo_rockway |
sokomine: MT definitely uses less resources than MC. |
| 20:34 |
leo_rockway |
there's an MC classic server and an MT server running on this computer. Roughly the same amount of people. MC takes a lot of resources. |
| 20:34 |
ADFENO |
I agree... Signing below. :D |
| 20:35 |
leo_rockway |
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND |
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leo_rockway |
4183 minecraf 20 0 1742m 798m 12m S 51.9 16.0 186:40.54 java |
| 20:36 |
leo_rockway |
that's the process taking up the most resources on this server. It runs mysql, lighttpd, mt... |
| 20:36 |
Kacey |
anyone want to see what i have to type in on every microcontroller? |
| 20:37 |
Jordach |
Kacey, go o |
| 20:37 |
Jordach |
on |
| 20:37 |
Kacey |
sbi(B,D);sbi(A,C|!D) or sbi(B,D);sbi(A,C&D) |
| 20:38 |
Kacey |
light on or light off |
| 20:39 |
Kacey |
9 coded in... |
| 20:39 |
Kacey |
6 more to go |
| 20:39 |
* VanessaE |
is back |
| 20:40 |
Kacey |
wb |
| 20:40 |
VanessaE |
thanks |
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VanessaE |
wb jeija |
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Kacey |
wb Jeija |
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Kacey |
10 coded in... |
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Kacey |
11 coded in |
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marktraceur |
Kacey: What are you doing? |
| 20:55 |
Kacey |
making a 4-bit decoder to 7-seegment display |
| 20:55 |
Kacey |
segment* |
| 20:55 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: Could you just tell us when you're done, maybe? |
| 20:56 |
Kacey |
it will never be "done" just finished for a while bbut sure |
| 20:57 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: My point is, constant numerical updates aren't totally necessary |
| 20:57 |
marktraceur |
Especially since most of us aren't playing on your server |
| 20:57 |
Kacey |
i dont have a server |
| 20:57 |
marktraceur |
Well, then none of us are |
| 20:57 |
marktraceur |
Which only underscores my point |
| 20:57 |
Kacey |
ok well i guess im off to finish the coding |
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maarkveidemanis |
hello |
| 20:58 |
marktraceur |
maarkveidemanis: Hi! |
| 20:58 |
marktraceur |
maarkveidemanis: Getting in touch with your Dutch roots? |
| 20:58 |
maarkveidemanis |
WTF |
| 20:59 |
maarkveidemanis |
20:59:13: ACTION[main]: Server for gameid="Server_Game" listening on port 30000. |
| 20:59 |
maarkveidemanis |
:D |
| 20:59 |
marktraceur |
Everybody |
| 21:00 |
marktraceur |
Stop what you're doing and join his server |
| 21:00 |
marktraceur |
It's apparently the best thing like ever |
| 21:00 |
maarkveidemanis |
YAY |
| 21:00 |
* marktraceur |
is being sarcastic |
| 21:00 |
maarkveidemanis |
it is |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/87 |
| 21:02 |
moltenbot |
Jordach's link: New Mese Pick Texture. by Jordach ? Pull Request #87 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub |
| 21:02 |
Jordach |
the change is noted in the desc. |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, why? |
| 21:04 |
Jordach |
because the old pick is ORANGE |
| 21:04 |
Jordach |
(nearly) |
| 21:04 |
Jordach |
orangey yellow ish, and the new one is real yellow |
| 21:05 |
leo_rockway |
is it bad if I like the old one better? o.o |
| 21:05 |
Jordach |
nope. |
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Jordach |
just grab cisouns texture pack and it'll be back |
| 21:06 |
leo_rockway |
I like that the old one seems to have a bit of a shadow :D |
| 21:06 |
Jordach |
i could darken it quickly if you like |
| 21:06 |
Muadtralk |
its all green and red anyway |
| 21:07 |
leo_rockway |
Jordach: that may look better. I actually like the yellow more than the orange. |
| 21:07 |
leo_rockway |
but the shadow looks cooler in the old one |
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Jordach |
leo_rockway, added more shadow: https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/1439852/34685/039b39f6-5133-11e2-884a-c55476053009.png |
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VanessaE |
Jordach: better. |
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Jordach |
cmon PilzAdam its a simple merge and we can forget this ever happened |
| 21:12 |
* leo_rockway |
highfives Jordach |
| 21:13 |
Jordach |
high five! |
| 21:13 |
VanessaE |
+1 |
| 21:13 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, lemme watch this video first |
| 21:14 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, thanks |
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* Jordach |
flops down on the channel sofa |
| 21:22 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, Hi. Here is the situation... |
| 21:22 |
Jordach |
yes? |
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OldCoder |
Jordach, I have talked to the VPS host for Europe MT. It is Anunakki account. We need to reboot. Anunakki gave me VNC password to do this. But I need control panel password. Neither host nor I are sure of how to reach Anunakki. I think Europe world is lost unless you or somebody else can find him. I will check to see how old the last backup I transferred off of the VPS is. |
| 21:24 |
Jordach |
O.O |
| 21:24 |
OldCoder |
This is the way of the world |
| 21:24 |
OldCoder |
Sh*t happens |
| 21:24 |
OldCoder |
Anunakki is not as involved as I had hoped |
| 21:24 |
Jordach |
shit hits the fan, typical |
| 21:24 |
OldCoder |
I will move Europe to my own VPS |
| 21:25 |
OldCoder |
I need to see how old the last transferred backup is |
| 21:25 |
OldCoder |
Host says he cannot reboot for me unless I have the UUID code of the VPS |
| 21:25 |
OldCoder |
And only Anunakkit has that |
| 21:25 |
OldCoder |
* Anunakki |
| 21:25 |
Jordach |
\o/ |
| 21:28 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, would you mind if I do this in a single commit? |
| 21:28 |
Jordach |
sure |
| 21:28 |
Jordach |
just merge |
| 21:28 |
Jordach |
simple |
| 21:29 |
PilzAdam |
two commits for that are too much |
| 21:29 |
OldCoder |
O.K. To close that matter: If anybody knows how to reach Anunakki please do so |
| 21:29 |
OldCoder |
If he does not show up we will need to revert Europe MT world to some time back |
| 21:30 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, either you rebase that into one commit or I will do that and you wont be the author of that commit |
| 21:34 |
maarkveidemanis |
who will gon ton |
| 21:34 |
maarkveidemanis |
go on my server |
| 21:38 |
NakedFury |
I regret using stack with so many torches |
| 21:42 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, lemme revert it |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, reverting wont help ere |
| 21:46 |
Jordach |
hold on |
| 21:46 |
Jeija |
Jordach: git rebase -i HEAD~2 |
| 21:46 |
Jordach |
not helpful |
| 21:50 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/88 |
| 21:50 |
moltenbot |
Jordach's link: New Mese Pick Texture. by Jordach ? Pull Request #88 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub |
| 21:50 |
Jordach |
fixed |
| 21:50 |
Jordach |
third time lucky |
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Muadtralk |
nice pick |
| 21:56 |
marktraceur |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4243 |
| 21:56 |
moltenbot |
marktraceur's link: Documentation sprint, 2013-01-19, in #minetest-doc (Page 1) - Unofficial engine development - Minetest Forums |
| 21:56 |
marktraceur |
RSVP, share the link, bring friends |
| 21:57 |
NakedFury |
reading |
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NakedFury |
after seeing your tech tree comment on that git mod Tech you have I suddenly want a research mod. you start without knowing what the ores are and after mining some you use a research station, oyu place 1 or more ores and depending on how many you placed the game makes a timer to represent you studying and analizing the material. maybe even give it levels or ranks. |
| 22:04 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, next time please put more texture changes into one commit |
| 22:05 |
Minetest-tan |
GIT: Jordach (Jordan Snelling) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: new mese pick texture de8726a9f7 2012-12-28T13:34:10-08:00 |
| 22:05 |
PilzAdam |
they dont have to be merged instantly |
| 22:05 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: I've thought of doing something similar....using really big craft recipes and complex combinations that will ultimately create blueprints for machines. Copy it down by crafting it with paper, share it with others, use it to make a machine. |
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marktraceur |
Possibly also use it for chemical and biological research |
| 22:07 |
ADFENO |
This mod seens/seems to be promissing. (Sorry, bad English. :D). |
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NakedFury |
add a rank system from 1 to 10[example] the higher level you have researched this material you then unlock new blueprints and recipes. researching takes the form of placing materials on a station and waiting a specific time like it is in real time strategy games or browser based games |
| 22:07 |
leo_rockway |
interesting |
| 22:07 |
leo_rockway |
+>9k |
| 22:07 |
NakedFury |
I would play it |
| 22:08 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: Perhaps we can brainstorm further over the weekend, hopefully I'll have time |
| 22:08 |
marktraceur |
(I'm traveling again this weekend and may or may not be able to chat) |
| 22:08 |
NakedFury |
this would really take the game away from the minecraft clone category |
| 22:09 |
marktraceur |
Might be nice |
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* ADFENO |
agrees with NakedFury. |
| 22:10 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: Would you be interested in playing a part in this idea? |
| 22:10 |
NakedFury |
more crafting to do, more interesting and engaging gameplay too |
| 22:10 |
NakedFury |
yeah |
| 22:10 |
marktraceur |
K. |
| 22:10 |
marktraceur |
I'll start a wiki page, actually |
| 22:10 |
NakedFury |
if it can be done then yes |
| 22:11 |
NakedFury |
anunakki: OldCoder and Jordach where looking for you |
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OldCoder |
Hi |
| 22:13 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: http://api.minetest.net/User:MarkTraceur/Tech_tree_idea |
| 22:13 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, Anunakki is not here |
| 22:13 |
moltenbot |
marktraceur's link: User:MarkTraceur/Tech tree idea - Minetest API |
| 22:14 |
NakedFury |
ohh didnt see the last has quit |
| 22:14 |
NakedFury |
he connected twice |
| 22:14 |
OldCoder |
Which is the problem; I should have moved the world when I realized he wasn't around much |
| 22:14 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 22:14 |
OldCoder |
But those are auto-joinsw |
| 22:14 |
OldCoder |
But those are auto-joins * |
| 22:14 |
OldCoder |
I haven't seen him talk in a while |
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ADFENO |
Also, just to get people in touch... I've managed to modify the food recipes mod for those who don't have the mob framework installed, but the user won't be able to craft the recipes which require things derived from mobs. |
| 22:19 |
ADFENO |
I can create a forum account or upload it somewhere so that the creator of the food recipes can link to it. |
| 22:19 |
ADFENO |
I did it just for those who don't have much skills with Lua scripting. |
| 22:20 |
NakedFury |
to the forum. if you do maybe add a link to the mob framework topic just in case they want both |
| 22:25 |
marktraceur |
john_minetest: I didn't mean it as a subset of technic, it will likely be a separate set of mods |
| 22:33 |
leo_rockway |
some guy at the forum had this idea about spells. The Harry Potter mod. |
| 22:33 |
leo_rockway |
it's kind of like the blueprint idea. |
| 22:36 |
mauvebic |
crafts could have a skill requirement |
| 22:36 |
mauvebic |
the more you craft the higher your skill |
| 22:36 |
mauvebic |
the more you can craft lol |
| 22:36 |
mauvebic |
otherwise its a little ridiculous to think about someone with no home and a wood axe building complex machines in mesecons |
| 22:37 |
mauvebic |
seems like something you build up to |
| 22:37 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Basically this is a way of requiring working up to something without using experience |
| 22:37 |
NakedFury |
http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/j5r1h8ef9 |
| 22:37 |
moltenbot |
NakedFury's link: Screenshot Uploader |
| 22:38 |
NakedFury |
a crude drawing of researching materials |
| 22:38 |
mauvebic |
someone else (i forget :/) also suggested making crafts specific to certain machines like blacksmith,woodworking, etc. |
| 22:38 |
marktraceur |
Very crude :P |
| 22:38 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: That seems reasonable--research the furnace and the forge, research the lathe and whatever else |
| 22:39 |
mauvebic |
from stone age to steel age yeah |
| 22:39 |
mauvebic |
without those shitty cutscenes like in other games lol |
| 22:39 |
NakedFury |
windows paint skills level up! level 2 |
| 22:39 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: "Sord" lol. |
| 22:39 |
NakedFury |
he did not research his cultural skills |
| 22:39 |
NakedFury |
so its bluprint and sord |
| 22:39 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: Add it to the wiki page? :) |
| 22:40 |
marktraceur |
Maybe some plain-text notes as well? |
| 22:40 |
NakedFury |
yeah I just made that so people can see the general idea |
| 22:42 |
marktraceur |
No no no |
| 22:42 |
marktraceur |
john_minetest: This isn't about skills, it's about technology |
| 22:42 |
marktraceur |
I suspect the core stuff (axes, picks, etc.) will work as-is for a while, until we can change default to use a similar method |
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NakedFury |
think Age of Empires or Empire Earth where you sort of started in Stone Age and researched up |
| 22:43 |
marktraceur |
Except in this case, we'll use actual materials instead of some ephemeral "tech tree" |
| 22:43 |
marktraceur |
john_minetest: It's called your inventory |
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marktraceur |
No |
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marktraceur |
john_minetest: If you don't have the blueprints and the materials to build something, you can't build it. That's it. |
| 22:45 |
mauvebic |
there wont be crafting on my space map though everything is sold through the exchange :p |
| 22:46 |
marktraceur |
john_minetest: In your inventory. |
| 22:46 |
marktraceur |
john_minetest: Do you have the blueprint for it? Do you have the materials for it? |
| 22:48 |
marktraceur |
http://api.minetest.net/User:MarkTraceur/Tech_tree_idea#Implementation |
| 22:48 |
moltenbot |
marktraceur's link: User:MarkTraceur/Tech tree idea - Minetest API |
| 22:49 |
marktraceur |
Something like that, yes |
| 22:57 |
NakedFury |
posted the picture in that api site |
| 22:59 |
marktraceur |
Cool |
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Kacey |
hello |
| 23:01 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: Oh hai! |
| 23:01 |
Kacey |
hai |
| 23:05 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: Go nuts and add notes there anytime you think of something :) |
| 23:07 |
Kacey |
on e more to code in (marktraceur: last update until done) |
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Octupus |
hi |
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NakedFury |
ok |
| 23:13 |
NakedFury |
ill work on making notes and drawing ideas when they come |
| 23:14 |
Kacey |
hello Octupus |
| 23:14 |
Kacey |
finished coding in |
| 23:16 |
* Kacey |
is happy :) |
| 23:21 |
Octupus |
hi |
| 23:21 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 23:21 |
ADFENO |
Hi Octupus. |
| 23:24 |
Kacey |
now to make the display |
| 23:26 |
STHGOM |
hi octo |
| 23:27 |
marktraceur |
STHGOM, ADFENO, are you two somehow linked? |
| 23:27 |
Kacey |
Octu you should see this thing i made |
| 23:27 |
ADFENO |
? No, I'm actually new here. |
| 23:27 |
marktraceur |
Cool. |
| 23:27 |
marktraceur |
Uppercase, six letters, seemed similar |
| 23:28 |
marktraceur |
Well, whatevs. |
| 23:28 |
STHGOM |
no |
| 23:28 |
STHGOM |
im sparky |
| 23:28 |
STHGOM |
on minetest |
| 23:28 |
marktraceur |
Haven't played with you before |
| 23:28 |
STHGOM |
ok |
| 23:29 |
STHGOM |
i usally play on zegeton |
| 23:29 |
STHGOM |
see you later guys/gals |
| 23:29 |
marktraceur |
Ta |
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Minetest-tan |
GIT: PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Remove old unused texture 0eb46a01ff 2012-12-28T15:29:52-08:00 |
| 23:32 |
PilzAdam |
wtf is that: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/76/files |
| 23:32 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: Add Mitori's Textures to Replace VanessaE's textures. by Jordach ? Pull Request #76 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub |
| 23:32 |
marktraceur |
PilzAdam: It's a URI |
| 23:33 |
PilzAdam |
marktraceur, normally when people post links they refer to the content |
| 23:33 |
marktraceur |
:) I know |
| 23:33 |
marktraceur |
PilzAdam: Is there some issue with the pull request? |
| 23:33 |
PilzAdam |
have you seen this diff?! |
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marktraceur |
PilzAdam: It probably just needs a rebase. Politely ask for one. |
| 23:35 |
PilzAdam |
I am always polite |
| 23:35 |
PilzAdam |
or at least try to ;-) |
| 23:35 |
marktraceur |
"wtf is that" is somewhat less than polite |
| 23:35 |
* VanessaE |
looks at the actual textures |
| 23:36 |
VanessaE |
NOOOOOOOOOooooooOOOOOooooOOOooOOOooOOOooOoooOooOooOooOo |
| 23:36 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, that too |
| 23:36 |
VanessaE |
they look like an aborted glowstone, a piece of rancid steak, and a lump of I don't even know what, from top to bottom |
| 23:37 |
VanessaE |
(Apologies to Mitori, but those are horrible) |
| 23:37 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Separate issue, then. Post that, too. |
| 23:38 |
VanessaE |
eh? |
| 23:38 |
marktraceur |
On the pull request, say that the textures aren't very good. Offer ideas. |
| 23:38 |
VanessaE |
oh. no, better I shouldn't say anything |
| 23:42 |
Kacey |
uuuuuuuuuuuuuugh this is complicated |
| 23:42 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Then they won't get better :/ |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: I think the ones I supplied are just fine. |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
Someone else wants to improve them, I won't get in the way too much :-) |
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Kacey |
omg this is crazy |
| 23:53 |
VanessaE |
? |
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Kacey |
my display |
| 23:59 |
ADFENO |
? What is with your display, Kacey? |
| 23:59 |
Kacey |
in minetest i am making a display |
