Time Nick Message 00:00 cy1 darkrose convinced celeron55 to include that in the C++ afaik. 00:00 cy1 might have been that menche guy though I forget 00:00 cy1 so it's in the actual source. 00:00 Uberi wow, neat 00:00 cy1 you have to say disable_anticheat = true in your config or your server griefs ppl 00:01 cy1 that and backporting 00:01 cy1 no option to disable that, but it's easy to comment out the actual teleport. 00:01 NekoGloop backporting is part of the disable_anticheat 00:02 cy1 oh? Didn't think it was... 00:03 cy1 oh, yeah it is. hm... 00:03 jordan4ibanez Here, i hope this makes it into the credits or whatever https://soundcloud.com/jordan-craige/minetest-welcome 00:03 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: Minetest - Welcome by Jordan Craige on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free 00:04 cy1 yeah my bad, they both get disabled with anticheat then. 00:04 cy1 disable_anticheat I mean. 00:04 cy1 it's still a good idea to hax the source though to enable speedhax checks, so you can record them without actually teleporting the player. 00:08 iqualfragile night 00:12 cy1 jordan4ibanez: it's OK but the piano's a bit heavy. perhaps something more uh... sinusoidal? 00:12 jordan4ibanez and then i hope this makes it in as some type of cd or jukebox 00:12 jordan4ibanez https://soundcloud.com/jordan-craige/minetest-night 00:12 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: Minetest - Night by Jordan Craige on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free 00:15 Uberi oh yeah I made a mirror of api.minetest.net: https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-API/wiki 00:15 moltenbot Uberi's link: Home ? Uberi/MineTest-API Wiki ? GitHub 00:15 cy1 actually, that second song might make a better intro, and the former a night theme? like, laying down for bed maybe? 00:16 Uberi this, unlike the api.minetest.net, is editable by anyone with an account 00:18 cy1 hm... 00:18 cy1 neat 00:20 jordan4ibanez cy1, yea, i need to find a better sample 00:21 jordan4ibanez firefox 17.1 runs like a pile of shit lol 00:21 Uberi|Away are we on v17 already? 00:22 Uberi|Away seems like just yesterday they were pushing out v4 00:22 jordan4ibanez Yep, very bloated already, WHY FIREFOX WHY 00:23 MiJyn jordan4ibanez, it's called chromium 00:23 jordan4ibanez No, there's no chromium for windows lol 00:24 jordan4ibanez or sdkiron is as close as it comes to that 00:25 cy1 >using windows 00:25 cy1 >2010 00:25 MiJyn jordan4ibanez, oh, I thought you upgraded to linux 00:26 jordan4ibanez I dualboot and run linux in a virtual machine, what is it with you people and hating windows? 00:26 jordan4ibanez t 00:26 jordan4ibanez Well i guess opening tabs in quassel doesn't work anymore lol 00:27 jordan4ibanez This is 2012, if you still get angry at someone for what operating system they're using, well go outdoors lol 00:28 Uberi|Away some people just want to hate on something 00:28 Uberi|Away I say let them 00:28 Uberi|Away better Windows than racial minorities 00:29 mauvebic i dont hate windows 00:29 mauvebic i think all the major operating sysems are "out to get me" lol 00:30 mauvebic everytime you find something that work someone has to go and change it, its universal to all OSses lol 01:19 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/Dzz6lUsF19g 01:19 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: Simon's Cat in 'Icecapade' - YouTube 01:28 NakedFury http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5135604/Technic%20Recipe%20Book.pdf 01:28 NakedFury for technic users 01:28 Uberi awesome! 01:30 NakedFury im gonna keep it update as more technic stuff comes up 01:31 kizeren hi 01:31 OldCoder GBBack 01:31 OldCoder Back 01:32 Uberi hey OldCoder 01:32 OldCoder Uberi, Hi 01:35 kizeren Is there a trash feature or some way to get rid of extra blocks? 01:35 Uberi kizeren: yes, in MT0.4.4 01:35 Uberi see the trash field in your inventory 01:35 Uberi there is also the /pulverize chat command 01:36 kizeren Well darn. The server I play on is 0.4.3 01:37 Uberi ah yes the server decides the inventory formspec, unfortunately 01:37 Uberi but /pulverize has been around since forever 01:38 marktraceur Uberi: 0.4.4 doesn't add that, my server doesn't have it 01:38 marktraceur kizeren: There's a trash field in some mod, probably unified inventory or something. VanessaE's server had it, but I'm not sure which mod it was. 01:38 kizeren I am on Calouins server. Not sure if I spelt his name right or not though. 01:39 kizeren But I just tried pulverize and it worked but it seems the item must be in hand first which could be kind of dangerous if your in a hurry. 01:41 Uberi pretty sure pilzadam opened a pull request a while ago 01:42 Uberi I remember seeing it merged 01:42 Uberi yeah be careful with that kizeren 01:42 NakedFury using pulverize is for everyone. make sure you are using-as in item is in hand-the item you want to delete 01:48 Uberi oh hey is anyone else having issues with forum email notifications? 01:48 Muadtralk hopefully not I was sending notifications to people a few hours ago 01:49 Uberi also can someone send me a test email (http://minetest.net/forum/misc.php?email=640)? I seem to be having trouble receiving the emails 01:49 moltenbot Uberi's link: Forum message - Minetest Forums 01:52 jordan4ibanez i got the npc to face forward walking :) 01:56 jordan4ibanez Now i just have to figure out how to get this to randomize 02:04 NekoGloop Yup, now my ipad is banned from #minecraft 02:06 Uberi|AoS why? 02:06 marktraceur NekoGloop: That's ironic! 02:06 NekoGloop Accidental ban evasion. 02:06 Uberi|AoS darn 02:06 NekoGloop My inner geek died a little on the inside. 02:07 NekoGloop Not like i'm missing anything. 02:07 MiJyn well you missed the amazing rumours about how horrible minetest is lol 02:07 MiJyn jk 02:08 kizeren Sticky pistons turn when stuck to each other.......are they suppose to do this ? 02:08 Uberi|AoS kizeren: oh I must have broken that a while ago 02:09 Uberi|AoS or maybe jeija did with the node def update 02:09 kizeren Does that make sense what I said? 02:10 Uberi|AoS yeah 02:11 OldCoder 02:11 OldCoder If I set up a new Europe VPS... 02:11 OldCoder what country would be best for Europe MT people? 02:11 OldCoder Old VPS would stay BTW 02:15 kizeren I was trying to make an invisible door......dang pistons kept turning....locking me out. 02:18 Uberi|AoS what version do you have, kizeren 02:18 kizeren I was using calouns server then I realized can't do delays through recipet yet. So going to try on personal server which I just updated two days ago. 02:28 kizeren Just tried works fine on my personal server. 02:36 NakedFury the next Stuff Book Project will be mesecons 02:37 telek OldCoder: I can't remember which country, but one of them has GigE to the home, guy I know had it and was doing commercial hosting out of his house. Might be worth further research. 02:42 OldCoder telek, ty 02:42 OldCoder telek, Looks like I will be setting up in Germany 02:42 OldCoder IIRC My existing Europe server is France 02:42 OldCoder So; I will be in France and Germany 02:43 telek Cool, G/L! :) *afks for evening* 02:49 * OldCoder nods 02:49 jordan4ibanez now the npc looks at you when you're in radius :D 02:49 NakedFury jordan what is your plan with the npcs? 02:50 jordan4ibanez Make houses for them to live in like villagers in minecraft, you know, actual villagers 02:50 NakedFury in the end something like Millenaire in MInecraft? 02:51 NakedFury farm, mine, trade, defend, expand? something like that 02:51 jordan4ibanez Yep 02:54 jordan4ibanez Maybe 02:54 jordan4ibanez I don't know 02:54 NakedFury but first is a framework of npc 02:55 jordan4ibanez I like the style of mobs in minecraft, not all of them, not the new ones, but old ones that were stupid 02:56 NekoGloop What, skeletons who didnt have perfect fucking accuracy? 02:56 NekoGloop I mean, they dont have eyes. How do they never miss when coming around a corner? 02:58 jordan4ibanez I mean, i hope to write the mob AI for this game lol 02:58 NakedFury I would prefer mobs that had diferent type of AI, line of sight or hearing or smelling, no 100% hitting aim, certain level of stupidity and tactics-for some. 02:59 NekoGloop For a being such as the endermen, yeah, i guess they could be allowed to see through walls and stuff. 02:59 NekoGloop But skeletons? 03:00 NakedFury well lets create the Rules of Mobs here. Skeletons and zombies are dead. skeletons dont have skin or muscles or eyes or ears or noses so how would we go to make them work? 03:01 NekoGloop They are animated by magic 03:01 NakedFury ok so what works in them with that magic? 03:01 NakedFury how would they see? sort of infrared vision? 03:02 NakedFury body heat? 03:02 NekoGloop Basically they are given artificial sight and muscle. 03:02 jordan4ibanez Lol 03:02 NekoGloop It's a game 03:02 NekoGloop Do i need to explain the mechanics of life in it? 03:03 jordan4ibanez Right now they are very stupid, it, the randomised math for setting acceleration makes them super random, sometimes the npcs run in place 03:03 NakedFury if this stuff isnt thought off then we will get crap monsters into the game 03:03 Uberi|Away well maybe the skeletons and zombies are all dead versions of the player who keeps dying 03:03 jordan4ibanez I'll make a video of an npc party in a little :D 03:03 Uberi wooo 03:05 NakedFury thats what happened to endermen, they werent designed very well so when they were implemented ungrateful players raged 03:05 mauvebic NPCs +1 :-) 03:06 mauvebic terminator-style HK's :-) 03:07 NakedFury jordan npcs could have a set of stats like in Sims that dictate what they will do. Hunger, Mood, Sleep, Tireness level, work, and maybe entertainment(too much work and they wont go until this bar is full or from 75 to 100%) 03:08 NakedFury too complex I guess for now 03:18 jordan4ibanez celeron55, can you have it so the /clearobjects command looks for the boolean "mob" in an entity, and if it's true do not delete entity? 03:19 Uberi well clearobjects is supposed to clear all objects, not all objects except mobs 03:19 NekoGloop Like /killall in spc 03:19 jordan4ibanez well a mob isn't an object, you could add a command /killall which searches for entities with "mob" bool in them then delete those 03:20 jordan4ibanez like neko just said 03:20 Uberi wait, are mobs not objects now? 03:20 jordan4ibanez they are 03:20 jordan4ibanez entities 03:21 Uberi so should clearobjects not extend to include them? 03:21 Uberi I mean, we might need to rename it to /clearobjectsexceptfortheoneswithveryspecificcharacteristics 03:22 NekoGloop One for actual objects, one for mobs. 03:22 NekoGloop Pfft 03:22 NekoGloop Stupid colloquy, only sending half a message 03:23 jordan4ibanez all i wanted was for /clearobjects to clear objects and /killmobs to kill mobs lol 03:23 NekoGloop /clearobjects and /killall. 03:23 NakedFury add /clearinventory 03:23 jordan4ibanez oh yea, and i can make giants, like notch never put in 03:23 NakedFury a mega version of pulverize 03:24 NekoGloop Yes, that would be nice, nf. 03:24 Uberi well I think /clearobjects should stick to clearing objects, and we add a new command: /clearenvironment 03:24 NekoGloop jordan4ibanez: Technically they're in there. 03:24 Uberi jordan4ibanez: giants would be great! 03:24 NekoGloop Just not spawnable 03:24 jordan4ibanez i can make them spawn 03:24 NekoGloop 1337 map hackers have put them in maps 03:25 Uberi they add a new element of challenge to the game 03:26 NakedFury if you make giants make them be like 10 or 8 blocks high. TITANS should be the 30 something high like in minecraft 03:27 Uberi aw yeah 03:27 NekoGloop Then god who is 100 blocks tall 03:27 Uberi and they should be designed for maybe 2 or 3 people to take down 03:27 NekoGloop And shoots lightning at you, which is instant death 03:28 Uberi and blows up all blocks in a 1000 block radius 03:28 Uberi and deletes your map if you die 03:29 NekoGloop Lolno 03:29 Uberi and then uninstalls MineTest 03:29 NakedFury giants can tople trees and smash cobble and man made stuff. titans make the ground tremble and the screen shake and can create craters when they stomp or or hit the ground. we got to go with realistic here to make it fun 03:29 Uberi call it super-hardcore mode 03:29 NekoGloop All blocks in a 1337 block radius, Uberi. 03:29 Uberi perfect! 03:30 jordan4ibanez i have a shit ton of them spawned and it's not even lagging 03:30 NekoGloop Show usssss! 03:30 jordan4ibanez when the mobs are standing around, and you're in their radius, they'll stare at you 03:30 Uberi that means they're not powerful enough 03:31 jordan4ibanez and then they'll randomly walk around 03:31 Uberi it's not powerful enough until there's unplayable lag 03:31 Uberi make a video/screenshot! 03:40 jordan4ibanez Video is uploading 03:41 Uberi can't wait 03:41 jordan4ibanez They can't jump yet, but i'm going to code that right now 03:42 NekoGloop This feels like those lines in front of major game stores when a popular game is being released. 03:42 NekoGloop Something that's funny to watch, not to be in. 03:42 jordan4ibanez This feels like what i missed in minecraft infdev, only i'm the one coding it lol 03:44 jordan4ibanez Next thing i'm going to do: jumping, and random skins 03:45 NekoGloop Next: connected textures. 03:45 NekoGloop pl0x nao 03:47 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/q6ameMq1DBk 03:47 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: Full Minecraft Soundtrack Updated W/ Weather! - YouTube 03:47 NekoGloop Wat 03:47 NekoGloop :< 03:47 jordan4ibanez Good songs lol 03:47 NekoGloop Disappoint leveled up 03:47 NekoGloop ^ meme now 03:49 jordan4ibanez well then fine, this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZHSR5VG0uU 03:49 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: Soft Music to Relax "Morning Light" Relaxing, Rewind, and Recharge with Soft, Calming Piano Music - YouTube 03:49 jordan4ibanez reminds me of shining time station theme from when i was a wee lad lol 03:49 NekoGloop ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfEFQRgmakk 03:50 NekoGloop Lol the bot is ignoring my links now. *mission accomplished* 03:50 jordan4ibanez ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZHSR5VG0uU 03:50 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: Soft Music to Relax "Morning Light" Relaxing, Rewind, and Recharge with Soft, Calming Piano Music - YouTube 03:51 NekoGloop XD 03:51 NekoGloop !up minetest.org 03:51 NekoGloop heh. 03:51 OldCoder ? 03:52 OldCoder Up or not? 03:52 NekoGloop The bot is ignoring me 03:52 NekoGloop Which is advantageous for me. 03:52 OldCoder Why? 03:52 NekoGloop Idk why its ignoring me, but it did the same to kika. 03:52 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/Mvmb_rOTEI0 03:52 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: Minetest Mobs - Starting To Get There - YouTube 03:53 NekoGloop Maybe if the first letter is capitalized it ignores the person? 03:53 nekogloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfEFQRgmakk 03:53 nekogloop Nope. 03:54 jordan4ibanez That's the mob video you guys all wanted to see 03:54 NekoGloop Lol 04:12 jordan4ibanez Now mobs can jump :) 04:14 NekoGloop Byebye 04:39 jordan4ibanez now mobs can actually navigate the terrain for real :D 04:42 jordan4ibanez In case anyone else would like to try http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=THCZ1AHx 04:43 parabyte okay is there any more info i can read about minetest? 04:43 parabyte looks very interesting 04:43 parabyte i presume there is no compatibility with mojang's certain product? 04:44 NakedFury if you mean convertion tools no. with a mod we can use player skins for the current models and with work minecrafts textures can work with minetest 04:44 AquaCake Hello 04:45 OldCoder Hi 04:49 jordan4ibanez Hey parabyte! 04:51 parabyte interesting 04:51 parabyte jordan4ibanez, hiya :) 04:51 parabyte Any change with a minecraft map ? 04:52 parabyte chance 04:52 parabyte sorry its late here 04:52 parabyte or early lol 04:52 jordan4ibanez I think i can release these mobs now 04:54 parabyte is the minetest servers busy? 04:54 AquaCake depends which one? 04:56 jordan4ibanez with this mob api i can make minecraft creepers lol 04:57 NakedFury parabyte the game would need a minecraft to minetest conversion tool to work and also provided you had appropiate textures and items created for the default or all stuff that minecraft map had 04:59 parabyte i run a small minecraft website and just cant get my head around why they written the server Daemon in java 04:59 parabyte i just cannot get my head around it 04:59 parabyte its eating my server's resources good 05:01 parabyte so taking it down in next week or so 05:08 jordan4ibanez celeron55 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4023 :D 05:08 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: [1.0] 3D Animated NPC (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 05:20 AquaCake Thats pretty damn good 05:35 jordan4ibanez A couple of things i thought of 05:35 jordan4ibanez since entities can use animations, we can make chests that open up 05:38 jordan4ibanez and thank you 05:38 NakedFury I am coding minecraft chests to minetest because editing the chest textures is a pain 05:38 NakedFury at least coding for me 05:39 NakedFury same for cactus 05:52 jordan4ibanez goood night 06:48 sema4 wb 08:01 sema4 hi neko 08:19 thexyz i probably should tell Uberi about http://wapi.minetest.ru/Main_Page 08:19 moltenbot thexyz's link: Minetest API 08:51 AquaCake Hello 08:54 cy1 meh 09:00 OldCoder Hey 09:04 AquaCake hELLO 09:04 AquaCake how do i get kubuntu onto my usb and run it? 09:05 AquaCake when i downloaded it it just gave me express burn 09:05 AquaCake @OldCoder 09:06 thexyz AquaCake: have you downloaded kubuntu ISO? 09:07 Aqua_ I downloaded the regular one on the site 09:07 Aqua_ http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download-lts 09:07 moltenbot Aqua_'s link: Download Kubuntu | Kubuntu 09:07 thexyz nah, it's not regular one 09:08 thexyz but fine, if you need LTS version 09:09 Aqua_ I dont get how you 'Configure your computer to boot from USB flash drive and boot from it ' 09:09 thexyz have you created bootable usb stick? 09:10 Aqua_ i dont know how.... 09:10 Aqua_ i got an empty usb stick 09:10 thexyz ok, what's your present OS? 09:11 Aqua_ windows xp 09:11 Aqua_ 3.8gb 09:11 thexyz k, then download https://launchpad.net/unetbootin/trunk/575/+download/unetbootin-windows-575.exe 09:12 Aqua_ And then? 09:12 thexyz run it 09:12 thexyz click "Diskimage" 09:12 thexyz select .iso you downloaded from kubuntu.org 09:12 thexyz then select your USB drive (be careful, it'll erase all data) 09:13 thexyz then press "OK" 09:13 Aqua_ VanessaE says u can also choose whether to use kubuntu or windows on boot how do i do this? 09:14 Aqua_ I dont wanna lose any files 09:14 thexyz that option will become available after you install it 09:14 thexyz if you don't want to lose any files, make backups 09:16 Aqua_ Lol can i make backups of microsoft office etc. 09:17 Aqua_ Can i? 09:17 Aqua_ is it possible? 09:17 thexyz yes 09:18 thexyz but why do you need to backup it, in the first place? 09:19 Aqua_ Because i need it for work 09:20 Aqua_ Can you backup a browser? 09:22 thexyz you can backup everything, this is what backups are made for 09:22 Aqua_ Will you keep files when you change to kubuntu? 09:22 Aqua_ But why? 09:23 Aqua_ I thought all your files will still be there 09:23 thexyz they will 09:23 thexyz probably 09:23 thexyz but as it's your first time with linux distro, better to make backups 09:24 Aqua_ how big is the risk? 09:25 thexyz depends on you 09:26 Aqua_ When i copy and paste into my usb they are just shortcuts will they work? 09:28 thexyz nah, you'd better stay with windows 09:30 Aqua_ just gonna try without backups hope it worksw 09:30 Aqua_ openoffice will do 09:30 thexyz libreoffice 09:32 Aqua_ whats a virtual machine? 09:32 Aqua_ my friend says i cant run it because my laptop isnt powerful enough 09:33 sema4 a work computer with not-backed-up documents etc is no place to be experimenting with linux installs :) 09:34 Aqua_ windows xp, intel centrino duo, probaly five yr old dell 09:36 Aqua_ The only reason i wanted to try it was because a server is easier to run on linux 09:37 sema4 i think i misunderstood, you just want to run linux from the USB stick, not install it eh? 09:38 Aqua_ yeo 09:38 Aqua_ yep 09:38 sema4 however, how is server 'easier' to run from linux? on windows it's just a click of a shortcut 09:39 sema4 sorry, i have never had to boot from USB stick , so cannot give advice on that :I 09:40 thexyz sema4: you forgot the compiling part 09:41 sema4 you don't have to compile on windows, just install the binary 09:41 sema4 unless you're wanting to run latest from git 09:44 OldCoder Hi 09:44 OldCoder Aqua_, I am falling asleep and cannot buntu right now 09:45 OldCoder Jordach not here yet? 09:45 OldCoder If Jordach stops by somebody pass this on to him: 09:45 OldCoder Alone not always to atone // Or to madness be prone // Not a contention bone // Be alone off the phone // Skills to hone 09:50 OldCoder Heh. Jordach: 09:50 OldCoder @jordansnelling You'd be good at the rhymes profession but avoid obsession // rhymes are fun son // need not be // characters 140 // exactly 09:53 OldCoder @jordansnelling Redeem it would seem soul will gleam light of beam to shine your soul and mine rise they will it is a thrill still to redeem 09:54 OldCoder ^ Also 140 characters exactly 09:54 sema4 heh 09:57 OldCoder One more. I can't help it. 140 characters exactly: 09:57 OldCoder @jordansnelling But rhyme time is now simple as that pull rhymes out of hat always time rhymes to chime you're not mime rhymes all the times 09:57 OldCoder Somebody point Jordach to these later 10:12 devlab Hi, what's the propose of 'Desert Stone'? 10:15 sema4 diversity of materials? 10:15 sema4 :> 10:16 devlab Is it like sandstone? 10:18 sema4 well i think if you mine it you get desert sand 10:18 sema4 rather than sand 10:18 * OldCoder needs Zzz 10:19 sema4 OldCoder, me too! 10:19 OldCoder o/ 10:20 sema4 devlab, there is a mod that is supposed to make desert sand/stone more useful: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3761 10:20 moltenbot sema4's link: [Mod] More Useful Deserts [3] [desert_uses] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 10:35 devlab brb 10:42 sema4 well i am done for the night. tot ziens! 10:46 devlab what's the maximum light level available in minetest? 10:47 devlab 15? 10:47 thexyz 14 10:47 devlab can it be upped? 10:48 thexyz sun emits 15, nodes can only emit up to 14 10:48 devlab lights+ is the mod in question 10:48 thexyz this can be useful to check if node is directly under the sky 10:49 thexyz s/useful/used 10:49 thexyz well, weren't you asking about engine limits? 11:09 devlab yes, 13:03 thexyz marktraceur: have you succeeded in porting overviewer to minetest? 14:10 * KikaRz waves to telek. 14:10 KikaRz meh 14:10 KikaRz everyone still offline 14:10 thexyz yep 14:10 * NekoGloop slaps KikaRz with a large tout 14:10 NekoGloop pfft 14:10 NekoGloop fuck English. 14:10 NekoGloop :< 14:10 * KikaRz puts the trout in NekoGloop's ass. 14:10 NekoGloop eww 14:11 KikaRz hahahahah 14:11 devlab Ouch, ahaha 14:11 KikaRz you got a fish in your *ss. 14:11 NekoGloop It's all wet and slimy 14:11 KikaRz xd 14:13 KikaRz omg, Rythmbox makes the PC get laggy 14:14 markveidemanis HHHHHHHIIIIIIIII... 14:18 NekoGloop BBBBBBBBBBBBBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE... 14:18 KikaRz ... 14:18 KikaRz not funny. 14:24 KikaRz !define mod 14:24 KikaRz1 !define mod 14:24 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: mod definition: one who wears modern clothes. 14:24 * KikaRz1 is laughing 14:25 KikaRz1 !up jariten.sytes.net 14:25 moltenbot Minetest server jariten.sytes.net:30000 UP 14:26 NekoGloop !define pie 14:26 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: A baked food composed of a pastry shell filled with fruit, meat, cheese, or other ingredients, and usually covered with a pastry crust. 14:26 KikaRz1 i prefer that: 14:26 NekoGloop Oh, -now- it listens to me 14:26 KikaRz1 !define imagination 14:26 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: imagination definition: the act or power of forming a mental image of something not present to the senses or never before wholly perceived in reality. 14:26 KikaRz1 NekoGloop, if i change my name , he listens to me 14:27 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 14:27 KikaRz1 Hi PilzAdam 14:27 KikaRz1 How are you today? 14:27 PilzAdam fine, thx 14:27 KikaRz1 It's Tuesday, 11 December 2012. 14:28 KikaRz1 10 days left to the start of last judgement. 14:28 PilzAdam wrong 14:28 KikaRz1 What's wrong? 14:28 NekoGloop you 14:28 PilzAdam the world doesnt go down at 21th of December 14:29 PilzAdam its just false interpretation of the Maya calendar 14:29 KikaRz1 I hate Maya. 14:29 KikaRz1 They are prostitutes. 14:30 KikaRz1 who knows the ip and port of VanessaE's server? 14:31 PilzAdam 24.181.193.82:30000 14:31 PilzAdam !up 24.181.193.82 14:31 moltenbot Minetest server 24.181.193.82:30000 DOWN 14:31 KikaRz1 :'( 14:31 NekoGloop 666.666.666.666:66666 14:31 KikaRz1 VanessaE is out for 2 days. 14:31 KikaRz1 nekogloop, we aren't from hell. otherwise like you. 14:31 KikaRz1 !up 666.666.666.666 6666 14:31 moltenbot Minetest server 666.666.666.666:6666 DOWN 14:31 KikaRz1 !up 666.666.666.666 66666 14:31 moltenbot Minetest server 666.666.666.666:66666 DOWN 14:32 KikaRz1 Its down. You must go to hell's server. 14:32 NekoGloop that would have been hilarious, and a little creepy, if that said up 14:32 devlab max ip range: 0.0.0.0-255.255.255.255 14:32 KikaRz1 i know 14:32 KikaRz1 NekoGloop thinks that range is up to 666.666.666.666. he's from hell. satan. 14:33 NekoGloop !up 66.66.66.66 66666 14:33 moltenbot Minetest server 66.66.66.66:66666 DOWN 14:34 KikaRz1 ... 14:35 KikaRz1 NekoGloop, we've already said: We aren't from hell. 14:35 KikaRz1 that should be internet in Hell. The pedofilians and robbers are in hell... so... they still alive in internet. 14:36 KikaRz1 PilzAdam, how i can get your boats mod? 14:36 PilzAdam click the download link 14:36 KikaRz1 do you know all list of VanessaE's mods? i want to get the mods 14:36 KikaRz1 to make a boat rac 14:36 KikaRz1 *race 14:36 KikaRz1 and rail 14:36 KikaRz1 what download link? 14:49 devlab i just cleaned 99*3 gravel, 14:49 devlab what the? 14:50 NekoGloop so? 14:50 devlab Why is it like that? 14:51 NekoGloop like what? 14:51 KikaRz1 .c 99*3 14:51 KikaRz1 !c 99*3 14:51 Minetest-tan 297 14:52 KikaRz1 thank you Minetest-tan 14:52 NekoGloop there's also this neat application built into windows that is called a calculator 14:55 KikaRz1 NekoGloop, i don't have Windows. 14:55 NekoGloop sucks to be you 14:55 KikaRz1 ... 14:56 KikaRz1 I'll put this in your house 14:56 KikaRz1 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2902 14:56 moltenbot KikaRz1's link: [Mod] TNT [tnt] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 14:57 OldCoder Hi 14:57 KikaRz1 OldCoder!!! My angel *--* 14:58 KikaRz1 One question: I can create a minetest_game copy? 14:58 KikaRz1 like minetest2_game ? 14:58 KikaRz1 to have another kit of mods 14:58 NekoGloop yes 14:58 OldCoder Sure 14:58 KikaRz1 Ok :) 14:58 OldCoder I have about 5 of them 14:59 KikaRz1 and OldCoder, my MP4 is finally updated. 14:59 OldCoder Good 14:59 KikaRz1 (with more recent musics 14:59 OldCoder Enjoy 14:59 KikaRz1 Thxs 15:00 KikaRz1 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1598 -- List of Mods needed. 15:00 moltenbot KikaRz1's link: [Modpack] MM2 [moved] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 15:00 KikaRz1 With boat mod and carts mod, ill make a copy of my cousin's world 15:00 KikaRz1 youtube.com/JGBBPT 15:01 KikaRz1 (minecraft adventure) 15:04 KikaRz1 Guys, soon in the maps: Cart / Boats races. 15:06 RealBadAngel aaAAA bike for sale, cheap 15:07 PilzAdam hi RBA 15:07 RealBadAngel hi :) 15:07 KikaRz1 hi RBA :) 15:07 RealBadAngel i hate riding the bike winter time :) 15:07 KikaRz1 how much it costs? 15:08 KikaRz1 Hi Penguin 15:08 KikaRz1 Hi Morrolan 15:08 Penguin Hi 15:08 RealBadAngel 2 beers and its yours 15:08 KikaRz1 Hi milleja46 15:08 KikaRz1 You must be kidding me. 15:08 RealBadAngel a bit 15:09 Penguin Jejia ? 15:09 RealBadAngel its a good bike, but that snow 15:09 NekoGloop 2 beers? 15:09 NekoGloop is it a 6pack for the car? 15:09 RealBadAngel lol 15:09 KikaRz1 yea 15:09 KikaRz1 is it? 15:09 KikaRz1 i have a driving card. 15:10 NekoGloop to RBA, beer is currency. 15:10 KikaRz1 NOOOO 15:10 RealBadAngel better than gold 15:10 KikaRz1 Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error. 15:10 KikaRz1 If you notice further problems, try restarting the computer. 15:11 KikaRz1 Show details --- Contue 15:11 KikaRz1 *Continue 15:11 KikaRz1 which one i press? 15:11 NekoGloop Sorry, you arent running Windows. So fuck you. 15:11 KikaRz1 NekoGloop, no flamming. 15:11 devlab That's Hilarious 15:11 KikaRz1 OldCoder. 15:11 RealBadAngel if you experience further problems please use the hammer 15:11 OldCoder KikaRz1 15:11 KikaRz1 Answer me. 15:12 KikaRz1 Thunar's fault. 15:12 Penguin Hi OldCoder 15:12 RealBadAngel me to-, me too 15:12 KikaRz1 ExecutablePath > /usr/bin/Thunar 15:12 RealBadAngel is Eu 0.4.4 ?? 15:12 KikaRz1 yea. 15:12 KikaRz1 OldCoder, what i do? Continue? 15:13 devlab where'd you get this error? 15:13 KikaRz1 when i was extracting a mod. 15:13 KikaRz1 PilzAdam Cart's mod. 15:14 OldCoder KikaRz1, what produced the error? Penguin hi 15:14 RealBadAngel a) check the folder names 15:14 RealBadAngel b) check the folder names 15:14 RealBadAngel :) 15:14 KikaRz1 OldCoder, when i was extracting the carts mod 15:14 KikaRz1 RealBadAngel, not in game 15:15 KikaRz1 in the ubuntu. 15:15 RealBadAngel whenever 15:15 KikaRz1 OldCoder, Thunar 15:15 OldCoder KikaRz1, What was the extract command? 15:15 KikaRz1 nothing 15:15 OldCoder Ah 15:15 RealBadAngel mod dir shall be named boats 15:15 KikaRz1 i was using a extractor 15:15 KikaRz1 not extractor 15:15 OldCoder Use unzip 15:15 KikaRz1 meh 15:15 OldCoder Not Thunar 15:15 devlab file roller? 15:15 KikaRz1 Not thunar 15:15 OldCoder devlab, not maintained 15:15 KikaRz1 i didnt used thunar 15:15 OldCoder Use unzip 15:15 RealBadAngel archive manager? 15:15 KikaRz1 Maybe. 15:16 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Have not tried it 15:16 KikaRz1 now its not giving me more any problems 15:16 RealBadAngel martraceur is right 15:17 RealBadAngel we shall really have here a mod manager 15:17 KikaRz1 yea 15:17 KikaRz1 i got that problem now again 15:17 NekoGloop why> 15:17 KikaRz1 when extracting jeija's mesecons 15:17 NekoGloop so that you all can claim our mods? 15:17 KikaRz1 STFU NekoGloop. You using windows. 15:18 RealBadAngel and minecraft :P 15:18 NekoGloop no ctcp version ftw 15:18 KikaRz1 -NekoGloop- VERSION qwebirc v0.91, copyright (C) 2008-2011 Chris Porter and the qwebirc project -- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1) AppleWebKit/537.11 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/23.0.1271.95 Safari/537.11 15:18 KikaRz1 web 15:18 KikaRz1 and windows nt 15:18 NekoGloop lolno 15:18 KikaRz1 yes you are. 15:18 RealBadAngel hes on win 15:18 NekoGloop nope 15:18 KikaRz1 Yes you are. 15:18 KikaRz1 all /ctcp NekoGloop VERSION 15:19 NekoGloop lol no i'm not 15:19 KikaRz1 Yes you are 15:19 NekoGloop I'm on WinXP 15:19 NekoGloop so fuck off already 15:19 KikaRz1 Windows NT = kernel 15:19 KikaRz1 windows xp = OS. 15:19 RealBadAngel meow, not im not... 15:19 RealBadAngel all kitties does the same 15:19 KikaRz1 ill CTCP Version everyone 15:19 NekoGloop Why does it say anything about Safari or Mozilla though 15:19 KikaRz1 who haves windows will be cited 15:20 KikaRz1 >ChanServ< CTCP VERSION 15:20 KikaRz1 -ChanServ- VERSION atheme 7.0.5. 3828836d36d6ce8ac87e1a71d0b653e91cf14662 services. cejtR [ircd-seven] Build Date: Oct 10 2012 15:20 KikaRz1 that is? 15:20 devlab I'm on openSUSE, Koversation 15:20 NekoGloop that's called not a user... 15:20 KikaRz1 I know you dumb 15:21 KikaRz1 AndrewPH is using Windows 7. (hexchat) 15:21 NekoGloop petition to +q KikaRz1 15:22 devlab really? 15:23 RealBadAngel who cares 15:23 KikaRz1 OMG, a lot of non answered CTCP's. 15:23 RealBadAngel in 10 days we gonna have the end of the world anyways 15:23 NekoGloop because they block them 15:24 KikaRz1 Lets list: (not user names, just numbers) 15:24 KikaRz1 12 has CTCP disabled. 15:24 KikaRz1 Just to jin_xi! 15:25 KikaRz1 10 are using Linux 15:25 KikaRz1 2 are using WIndows ( 15:25 KikaRz1 let em continue 15:29 KikaRz1 Ok, continuing to tango_... I presume that CTCP disabled people are from Linux (except NekoGloop. 15:30 marktraceur theTroy: Nope 15:32 KikaRz1 So... 2+2=4 Windows - 12+28 CTCP disabled - 10+4 Linux 15:32 KikaRz1 !c 12+28 15:32 Minetest-tan 40 15:32 KikaRz1 So, 40 CTCP Disabled - 5 Windows - 14 Linuxs. 15:32 KikaRz1 Let me continue. 15:33 RealBadAngel 40 on apples? ;) 15:33 celeron55 wtf 15:33 celeron55 KikaRz1: stop it 15:34 theTroy KikaRz1: CTCP spoof plugin was quite easy to write 15:34 KikaRz1 celeron55, im making a statistic 15:34 theTroy and there are also some available 15:34 celeron55 KikaRz1: you have done that many times already; a single time should be enough for a statistic 15:34 theTroy like I am spoofing pidgin + linux 15:34 celeron55 KikaRz1: next time will be a kick 15:34 RealBadAngel hi celeron55 15:34 KikaRz1 ... not my problem. NekoGloop started a war. 15:35 celeron55 CTCP is not appreciated in IRC 15:35 KikaRz1 of Ops 15:35 KikaRz1 so, why included it? 15:35 celeron55 i don't care 15:35 theTroy and hi celeron55 nice to see you back on irc and glad that minetest is still going :) 15:35 theTroy best of luck with future progress/projects! 15:36 NekoGloop he's always here 15:36 KikaRz1 but away always. 15:37 RealBadAngel never say never.... 15:37 NekoGloop fuck bieber. 15:38 RealBadAngel actually you just tried to fuck bond 15:38 KikaRz1 NekoGloop, shut the hell up. I'm tired of hearing you 15:38 ecube KikaRz1: why you ctcp me so much 15:38 RealBadAngel youre brave ;) 15:38 KikaRz1 ecube, not 15:38 KikaRz1 just 1 time 15:38 ecube 1 time is 1 too much... 15:38 NekoGloop kika, we're all tired of you 15:38 KikaRz1 And of you NekoGloop 15:39 NekoGloop nope 15:39 ecube nah, I like NekoGloop 15:39 celeron55 both statements are true 15:43 KikaRz1 PilzAdam, where is farming_plus? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2787 15:43 moltenbot KikaRz1's link: [Mod] Farming [farming] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 15:43 KikaRz1 at the end of topic? 15:43 KikaRz1 Ok, i found it 15:46 KikaRz1 RealBadAngel, your unified_inventory is in forums? 15:48 NakedFury http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3933 15:48 moltenbot NakedFury's link: [mod] Unified Inventory [0.9] [unifiedinventory] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 15:48 KikaRz1 thank you 15:48 KikaRz1 when i was trying to find mod in forums, i didnt find it 15:49 KikaRz1 latest? 15:51 KikaRz1 Welcome Back Jordach 15:51 Jordach another name to the ignore list 15:51 KikaRz1 ?? 15:54 Jordach OldCoder - nice rhymes. 15:54 OldCoder 140 characters :-) 15:54 OldCoder Exactly 15:55 Jordach good. 15:55 Jordach real good. 15:56 devlab hey Celeron 15:56 NekoGloop why are you talking to a color? 15:56 devlab ? 16:00 thexyz strange.. Minetest-tan missed a commit 16:00 * PilzAdam noticed that too 16:00 * KikaRz1 too. 16:00 NekoGloop kika, no you didnt 16:01 NekoGloop you're just taking the credit 16:01 KikaRz1 Yes i did. 16:01 KikaRz1 im on github 16:02 KikaRz1 NekoGloop, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/52ba413185f96add259c480a68f5dffa389e80f4 16:02 moltenbot KikaRz1's link: Only fly through walls in noclip mode wich requires the noclip privilege ? 52ba413 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub 16:03 NekoGloop so am i 16:04 NekoGloop i just honestly dont give a fuck about things i cant do anything about 16:04 NekoGloop too lazy to compile 16:04 KikaRz1 so, shut up. 16:04 PilzAdam s/too lazy to compile/cant compile because im on windows 16:04 KikaRz1 NekoGloop ignored. Reason: Too lazy to talk. 16:05 NekoGloop I can compile 16:05 KikaRz1 PilzAdam, it's possible to compile on windows. 16:05 NekoGloop I've done it before 16:06 thexyz what've you compiled? hello world? 16:06 NekoGloop minetest 16:08 KikaRz1 RealBadAngel, does your inventory include Food recipes? 16:10 thexyz NekoGloop: did it run? 16:10 NekoGloop yes 16:11 NekoGloop at 5fps because stupid me didnt close cmake or MSVC++ first. 16:12 marktraceur Sorry, theTroy, I meant to say "nope" to thexyz 16:12 marktraceur thexyz: I haven't run overviewer on minetest, no 16:13 marktraceur KikaRz1: You've cleverly^Waccidentally avoided my /ignore! Well done! Goodbye! 16:13 KikaRz1 Thank you marktraceur. but i don't want ignore, im not doing nothing 16:15 KikaRz1 I got some ideas to Frontal / Back view in Minetest. Like: A camera in back (nobody can see) and in front. 16:17 KikaRz1 Who likes that idea? 16:17 NekoGloop noone. 16:19 thexyz marktraceur: =( 16:23 marktraceur KikaRz-AFK: We shall see. 16:23 KikaRz-AFK Ok, i'll show you that i'm better today. 16:25 marktraceur KikaRz-AFK: Yes, I did. Why the PM? 16:25 KikaRz-AFK To don't spam the channel. 16:25 KikaRz-AFK That's an unrelated theme. 16:25 * marktraceur blocked KikaRz-AFK because she's annoying as all hell, that's on-topic 16:25 Jordach :D 16:25 KikaRz-AFK Not going to answer that 16:27 OldCoder Zeg9, hi 16:28 KikaRz OldCoder, now i'll be better. No Spam, no unrelated things talking-about, no bot abuse. 16:29 marktraceur Bound to be a quiet day 16:29 Jordach marktraceur - yeah 16:29 marktraceur Not that I'm complaining. Big happenings down at the wiki mines today. 16:30 OldCoder KikaRz, fin 16:30 OldCoder KikaRz, fine * 16:30 KikaRz Guys, can you send me good textures packs? I wanted to see my minetest diferent... (not that random ones of the forums) 16:31 * OldCoder is resting again briefly 16:31 marktraceur KikaRz: The ones on the forums are the only texture packs that exist. So they aren't random, they're total. 16:32 Morrolan KikaRz - You rang? 16:33 KikaRz Not that i meant. i was trying to say: bad quality ones. 16:33 KikaRz Morrolan, define rang. 16:34 Morrolan Highlighted. 16:35 Morrolan (Mentioned my nickname, if you're in need of a definition of 'highlight', too.) 16:35 marktraceur KikaRz: If you think the ones on the forum are bad, then that sucks, because there aren't any other ones. 16:36 KikaRz not that i said 16:36 KikaRz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4035 16:36 Morrolan KikaRz - Seems that 'hi' was right after my bouncer joined, though, so nevermind. :) 16:36 KikaRz Morrolan, stop being random. 16:36 Morrolan There's nothing random about this. 16:37 marktraceur KikaRz: My point is, if you want texture packs, the forum has all of them. Just look through until you find one you like. 16:38 KikaRz Ok. Going to find. I was just trying to know your opinion about that ones you like. 16:38 NekoGloop there used to be this really shitty one there 16:38 NekoGloop til i removed it 16:39 * marktraceur uses default texture, would use an ASCII one if it existed, doesn't care about the quality of a texture pack 16:40 KikaRz Ok marktraceur, thank you anyways. 16:40 KikaRz Yea, it is :) 16:41 Zeg9 ...What about aa lib ? I don't think it will work with hardware acceleration, though 16:45 celeron55 well, you could *make* it work, just render the scene to a texture and feed to aa 16:45 celeron55 ...8) 16:45 celeron55 not really hard at all, but the usefulness of that is like -1 out of 100 16:46 KikaRz No it's not. it's 5/10. 16:46 KikaRz not 100 :P 16:47 Zeg9 This would be laggy, wouldn't it ? 16:47 Zeg9 and quite useless 16:48 Jordach considering mt is already laggy 16:48 KikaRz Yea. To process that blocks (breaking nodes and placing nodes) 16:48 KikaRz To render the map... 16:48 Zeg9 By laggy, here I ment rendering lag 16:48 KikaRz Calinou, gotta talk with you. 16:49 Calinou hi 16:49 KikaRz hi. 16:49 KikaRz is your texture pack (faithful converted) updated? 16:49 Zeg9 Hello 16:50 KikaRz Hello Zeg9 16:50 Calinou KikaRz: updated, as in? i'm not really maintaining it anymore but it should work fine with latest MT versions 16:50 KikaRz Calinou, with the doors, ladders, chars... etc 16:51 Calinou ladders? 16:51 KikaRz or the 3d doors update affects them? 16:51 KikaRz not ladders... 16:51 Calinou I need to update doors mod support though :P 16:51 KikaRz not doors mod... its the new update (doors look more 3d) 16:52 Calinou yes 16:52 KikaRz ok. 16:53 KikaRz first going to try RealBadAngel's texture pack (his one) 16:56 * Calinou redownloads the minecraft pack first 16:56 Calinou yay, adfly! 16:56 Zeg9 This is great. 16:57 PilzAdam Calinou, adblock plus? 17:05 KikaRz Going to Dinner... Kisses *--* 17:12 markveidemanis hi 17:15 KikaRz hi markveidemanis 17:15 KikaRz Can i play in your server? 17:15 markveidemanis sure, hust a sec, testing the npc mod 17:15 markveidemanis #just 17:15 markveidemanis i built a mansion:) 17:16 KikaRz i can build a ship (space ship) 17:17 markveidemanis i can screw up the npc mod...:D 17:17 KikaRz i can delete minetest worlds. 17:22 markveidemanis done 17:22 Calinou PilzAdam: of course, but adfly make everyone waste 5 seconds 17:22 Calinou makes* 17:23 * Calinou managed to make blender crash, yey 17:23 Calinou set material type to volume > render > crash 17:27 Penguin hi 17:29 Zeg9 Hello. 17:30 KikaRz Meh, crashed. 17:32 Penguin What servers yous on 17:32 PilzAdam youtube.com:80 17:32 Penguin ? 17:33 KikaRz lol 17:33 thexyz Taoki: can this be caused by your attachment system? http://i.imgur.com/dH0lM.png 17:33 KikaRz Yea, we can be at youtube.com:80. 17:33 KikaRz Penguin, be more specific. (Minetest Server you at?) 17:34 Penguin Please i'm bored What Minetest Servers Are You On 17:34 thexyz Penguin: 127.0.0.1:30000 17:34 thexyz !up 127.0.0.1 30000 17:34 moltenbot Minetest server 127.0.0.1:30000 UP 17:34 thexyz see? 17:35 thexyz feel free to join 17:35 Penguin is it any good 17:35 thexyz for sure 17:36 thexyz the most awesome and fast one 17:36 Penguin what mods 17:36 thexyz those you'll fall in love with 17:36 Zeg9 "server's PROTOCOL_VERSION is 11, client's PROTOCOL_VERSION is 13" 17:36 Penguin will come on it now 17:36 Penguin 127.0.0.1? 17:36 thexyz sure 17:36 Zeg9 Yep 17:37 Penguin what ver 17:37 frogcrush That's a Localhost IP 17:37 Zeg9 I'm there too 17:37 Zeg9 ...frogcrush, you ruined all this. 17:37 * thexyz flies away 17:37 frogcrush Awwe, I sorry :( 17:37 PilzAdam frogcrush, you ruined the joke! 17:37 * frogcrush is sad now 17:38 Penguin WOW 17:38 Jordach IRC, y u die? 17:39 Penguin i mean it now what are the good servers of minetest 17:39 frogcrush 131.253.13.32 is a good server 17:39 Penguin Port 17:39 frogcrush The norm 17:40 Penguin Wow Trlol Again ? 17:41 frogcrush 131.253.13.32 is also a handy website 17:41 Penguin i carnt connect 17:42 Zeg9 I found a good website too 17:42 Zeg9 about minetest, and all sandbox games 17:42 Zeg9 82.103.139.11 17:44 Zeg9 Forget this. 17:44 KikaRz Hi there... Again. 17:44 Zeg9 67.205.24.236 17:44 Zeg9 Hello KikaRz 17:45 KikaRz that ip is for? a server? i like building. 17:45 Zeg9 ...I'll check my links next time. 17:45 frogcrush lol 17:45 Jordach try this 2001:0db8:85a3:0042:1000:8a2e:0370:7334 17:45 KikaRz That's ipv6. 17:45 KikaRz or 8 xd 17:45 frogcrush Nothing is wrong with ipv6 17:45 frogcrush :D 17:45 Zeg9 Great. 17:46 Zeg9 or... 17:46 Penguin kikarz what server you on 17:46 Jordach minetest does not support ipv6, way to go 17:46 frogcrush Isn't that IP from the Wikipedia post? 17:46 Zeg9 Ok this one works: 5.9.130.165 17:47 KikaRz Penguin, no where. 17:47 Jordach yes, frogcrush - im just trollin 17:47 KikaRz Penguin, i can try making a server 17:47 KikaRz in my pc 17:50 KikaRz Guys, what feedback you give on that mod? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3647 17:50 Penguin lol the pickaxe 17:50 KikaRz It's just good to remove water (and get water_source / Flowing) 17:51 frogcrush Nice pickaxe :) 17:51 KikaRz dislike a bit the texture 17:51 frogcrush It looks like it could be handy tho 17:52 KikaRz it shall have sticks 17:54 Jordach does someone have vanessa's server ip? 17:54 KikaRz It's offline. 17:54 Jordach PilzAdam - do you ? 17:54 KikaRz She's away for 2 days. (tomorrow she comes back) 17:54 PilzAdam Jordach, 24.181.193.82 17:54 Jordach cheers 17:54 KikaRz PilzAdam, Jordach maybe ignored me. 17:55 PilzAdam KikaRz, there may be other reasons to request the IP 17:55 Jordach last night i swapped out that ip to play with mito551 for a youtube lets play 17:56 Jordach PilzAdam - seems dead 17:56 KikaRz ... I said. 17:56 Jordach OldCoder - have you heard what happened to 24.181.193.82? 17:56 OldCoder No 17:56 Jordach hm, it's dead atm 17:57 KikaRZZ Her server is offline reason: she's away for 2 days 17:57 KikaRZZ she comes back tomorrow. Thank you for your attention 17:57 * Jordach wonders why she did not pass the admin stuff to PilzAdam, or jin_xi 17:58 Penguin oldcoder have you updated 17:58 OldCoder Penguin, please 17:58 OldCoder You asked about an hour ago 17:58 OldCoder Patience is a virtue 17:58 Penguin sorry 17:58 OldCoder It's fine 17:58 * frogcrush laughs at the young people 17:58 OldCoder I will work on it right now 17:58 Jordach RealBadAngel PM 17:58 OldCoder But it may take a day or two to evaluate 17:59 KikaRz OldCoder, why European server got many (many many many) mods / downloads? 17:59 KikaRz Afk. 17:59 OldCoder KikaRz, what? 18:00 KikaRzReadingNew OldCoder , i was trying to say: European Server got too much media to download. 18:00 * Jordach is joining OldCoder Euro 18:00 KikaRzReadingNew (so... my pc gets memory 100% full and goes down.) 18:01 OldCoder KikaRzReadingNew, I don't understand 18:01 OldCoder It has not changed 18:01 OldCoder recently 18:01 Jordach ah yes 18:01 KikaRzReadingNew I tried to enter (to play with RealBadAngel) in the European server... Media takes a lot to download. 18:01 OldCoder Yes 18:01 OldCoder But only once 18:01 OldCoder Plus 0.4.4 may help 18:01 * Jordach loves the global shortcuts i implemented in my custom media player 18:01 KikaRzReadingNew I know... But i have a problem. 18:01 OldCoder Let me focus 18:01 OldCoder What problem? 18:02 KikaRzReadingNew When takes a lot, (downloading), my computer gets laggy, 100% memory used... and goes down 18:02 * frogcrush congratulates Jordach 18:02 OldCoder KikaRzReadingNew, it is only once 18:02 OldCoder KikaRzReadingNew, let me focus 18:02 KikaRzReadingNew I know! But how i get the downloads? can you pass me the cache? 18:03 OldCoder KikaRzReadingNew, It is in the Windows ZIP I made 18:03 OldCoder Didn't I give you that already? 18:03 KikaRzReadingNew Ah! I remember... can you pass me it again? 18:03 KikaRzReadingNew I'm in Linux 18:03 * OldCoder sighs! 18:03 OldCoder KikaRzReadingNew, om 18:03 KikaRzReadingNew 121010? 18:03 KikaRzReadingNew or 121012? 18:04 OldCoder http://minetest.org/clients/minetest-121020.zip 18:04 OldCoder That one 18:04 KikaRzReadingNew thank you. 18:04 OldCoder yw 18:05 frogcrush OldCoder, are you getting bugged a lot? 18:05 OldCoder frogcrush, explain 18:05 Jordach like constant highlights 18:05 OldCoder Sort of 18:05 OldCoder Like right now 18:05 OldCoder :-) 18:06 KikaRz poor nurse.... 18:15 Jordach wow this rooms cold again 18:17 KikaRz what? 18:34 KikaRz OldCoder, the cache didnt result in nothing 18:34 KikaRz my computer crashed again 18:34 OldCoder Crashed? 18:34 KikaRz :( 18:34 KikaRz yea 18:34 KikaRz pc froze then reboot 18:34 OldCoder That is odd 18:34 KikaRz (without blue screen like windows xd 18:34 OldCoder Jeija, hi 18:34 Jeija Hi everyone, hi OldCoder 18:35 Jeija Anyone found anymore bugs in the new mesecons branch? If not, I'd like to merge it now. 18:36 KikaRz IDK. wait 18:36 KikaRz your topic got the download to the master? if yes, im going to test now 18:37 Jeija https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/archive/mesecons_in_nodedef.zip 18:38 Jordach jeija, at some point could it be possible to fix the wireless mesecons? 18:39 Jeija Jordach, I actually thought about that this morning. Yes, it may be possible, maybe also as an extension. But I will create a new code for them, not use that old rubbish. 18:39 Jeija Next thing is vertical mesecons (finally) 18:39 Jordach since we now has formspec and such 18:40 KikaRz going to install more ores + more blocks...* 18:40 KikaRz who got more ideas to install mods? 18:41 Jeija the problem is that all receivers need to be registered in a public variable that has to be saved and loaded each time you open the game 18:41 Jeija maybe I can make it so that the coords of the receiver can be saved in the sender's meta, but I'm not sure how to do that 18:43 KikaRz Calinou, got a idea for your More Blocks mod. 18:43 marktraceur KikaRz: an idea, dear. 18:44 Calinou a dear idea! 18:44 KikaRz You know Sweeper? its used to clean glass by crafting... you could make when sweeper punches glass, it cleans the glass and your sweeper is gone because was use 18:44 KikaRz *used 18:44 KikaRz that was more realist 18:44 KikaRz *realistic 18:44 marktraceur Calinou: If it were a deer idea, it would need to go in the animals mod.... 18:45 KikaRz and to bookshelves too 18:45 KikaRz You like the idea Calinou? 18:47 Jordach not really 18:48 Jordach wireless transmitter = on, channel, wireless reciever = on, that channel 18:49 KikaRz Calinou , did you listen my idea? 18:50 KikaRz and the Doors+ link is disabled. 18:51 KikaRz not that im saying. TO clean glass we need to use it in crafting. 18:51 KikaRz not punching glass 18:52 KikaRz punching glass were more realistic 18:53 KikaRz maybe. 18:53 KikaRz xd 18:53 KikaRz and bookshelves too 18:53 KikaRz (with books XD) 18:53 KikaRz thats a bit funny 18:55 MiJyn finally! peace in the MT channel! 18:56 marktraceur MiJyn: Muted someone? :) 18:56 KikaRz MiJyn, my behaviour has been improved. Now i'll don't spam, write things in different lines, talk about unrelated subjects and just talk when i have questions (or it's a MT party) 18:56 KikaRz when i have questions, talk about mods, tp(texture packs) and +++ 18:56 MiJyn marktraceur, guess who lol 18:57 marktraceur MiJyn: Could it be.... KikaRz ? 18:57 KikaRz no i'm not muted 18:57 MiJyn marktraceur, wow, you are good lol 18:57 marktraceur KikaRz: I think to MiJyn, you are :) 18:57 KikaRz COntinuing to install mods 18:57 KikaRz Bye Zeg9 18:57 Jeija https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/archive/master.zip << I merged the mesecons branch. I hope you enjoy the new version (Even though the user can hardly discover any changes). The developer resources will be updated in the nest few days as soon as this branch is proven to be stable. 18:58 MiJyn I wonder what she would have said... at the same time, I'm not really interested lol 18:58 KikaRz downloading new branch. 18:59 marktraceur MiJyn: She claims she's being better today, I've seen only some evidence thereof 18:59 KikaRz marktraceur, not only today. Every next days. 19:00 marktraceur Right, *starting* today. 19:00 Penguin Hey 19:00 KikaRz Welcome Back! :) 19:00 KikaRz marktraceur, make a film: A day without Kika: The parrot. 19:00 KikaRz XD 19:01 Penguin oldcoder i carnt connect to 30009 19:01 MiJyn @marktraceur, interesting how LandMine is banned for just appearing on the channel and saying a little comment and SOME others (who I'm not going to mention the name) are not banned at all for doing worse lol 19:01 MiJyn don't want to be mean, but seriously 19:01 KikaRz LandMine is banned? 19:02 marktraceur MiJyn: Because ultimately, this community doesn't really want to eliminate problems. They just want to ignore them and hope they go away on their own. 19:02 frogcrush So THATS why I'm allowed on... 19:02 marktraceur Which is great, for a democracy. But that's not what IRC is. 19:03 MiJyn marktraceur, yep. I wonder what would have happened if LM was a woman... I don't think she would have been banned so easily 19:03 marktraceur Hm, that's interesting 19:04 KikaRz MiJyn, so... if the channel was filled up of homossexuals... 19:04 Penguin Anyone On A Good Server 19:04 KikaRz nobody was ebing banned 19:04 KikaRz :P 19:04 KikaRz Welcome back Jordan4ibanez 19:04 jordan4ibanez thank you 19:04 MiJyn marktraceur, what do you think? 19:05 thexyz what? should we mute somebody? 19:05 marktraceur KikaRz: I think MiJyn's point is that we make an effort to keep female community members, more than male ones 19:05 KikaRz Hi iqualfragile. 19:05 marktraceur thexyz: Several people come to mind, but you won't be interested 19:05 MiJyn yeah, that's it 19:05 Jordach i think pissing off cornernote was the worst thing ever. 19:05 iqualfragile hi KikaRz 19:05 thexyz i'm good at this things, you know 19:05 Jordach s/this/these 19:05 iqualfragile ah, right: what happened to cornernote? why was he banned? 19:06 Jordach he requested to 19:06 KikaRz Guys, whats that mod like Stairs+ and Doors+ ? Xdoors or XStairs... or something? 19:06 iqualfragile xdoors2 19:06 marktraceur thexyz: Well, the first is RealBadAngel, who several days ago insulted me based solely on age. I'd suggest a few days of mute with a good statement of reason. OldCoder refused the suggestion and told me to /ignore, which I did. 19:06 KikaRz thxs, there is more one mod? 19:07 Penguin kikarz what you do ing 19:07 KikaRz installing mods. 19:07 KikaRz Selecting first... 19:07 frogcrush Doing is one word 19:07 MiJyn Jordach, cornernote was banned? 19:07 OldCoder iqualfragile, there was an issue related to the consumption of meat 19:07 KikaRz Yea MiJyn 19:07 iqualfragile consumption of meat? 19:08 thexyz he was posting animal gore 19:08 MiJyn I thought he was the only really mature person on this channel (apart from OldCoder and a few others) 19:08 jordan4ibanez cornernote was banned because he opressed his opinion like an extremest 19:08 thexyz then i kicked him 19:08 Jordach iqualfragile - i should of /give Cornernote default:apple -1 19:08 Penguin lolk 19:08 thexyz then he burned out 19:08 Penguin lol 19:08 thexyz sad story 19:08 marktraceur thexyz: The second is cy1, who yesterday used the term "retarded" in a derogatory sense. I asked him to stop, but he refused to apologize and continued using the word. Because I'd learned that the ops don't care about offensive language, I didn't even ask, /ignored him, and banned him from another channel. 19:08 KikaRz Omg, marktraceur, i'm not in that unrelated things chat. 19:08 jordan4ibanez I fucking hate the 310 nvidia driver 19:09 iqualfragile i fucking hate the nvidia driver 19:09 jordan4ibanez apparently my gtx650 is too new to use classic nvidia drivers, so i have to use the beta 19:09 MiJyn jordan4ibanez, well, I sort of like extremists... 19:10 KikaRz Jordach: "Hey all; I forked thexyz's xDoor2, and made it so you can have any shaped texture with an alpha channel." 19:10 KikaRz The real mod is made by you or him? 19:10 Jordach jordan4ibanez - haha! 19:10 jordan4ibanez mijyn: you like seeing slaughtered animals? 19:10 Jordach mines GeForce 6200 19:10 MiJyn jordan4ibanez, idk, if he has a point, it may be worth it 19:10 jordan4ibanez Then go to cornernotes website! You'll love it there :D 19:10 frogcrush Anyone report cornernotes website? 19:10 KikaRz Site? 19:10 thexyz marktraceur: that's strange 19:11 jordan4ibanez Don't go, i was kidding. 19:11 frogcrush That is freaking disgusting 19:11 KikaRz I didnt requested the site 19:11 jordan4ibanez time to boot with 304 beta driver 19:11 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, cornernote insisted on the ban 19:11 MiJyn jordan4ibanez, hmm, that's his website, he gets to do what he wants 19:11 KikaRz just telling site? because i didnt knew that he were with a site. 19:11 OldCoder But you are gone 19:11 Penguin oldcoder i carnt connect to 30009 19:11 marktraceur thexyz: What's strange, exactly? 19:11 OldCoder Penguin, thank you. I am checking now. 19:11 KikaRz Jordach, that xdoors2 it's your mod or from thexyz? 19:12 KikaRz ( i guess Jordach still got me ignored 19:12 OldCoder Penguin, you timed out 19:12 KikaRz Hi Penguin_ 19:12 thexyz marktraceur: can you provide links to logged messages? 19:12 iqualfragile !up minetest.org 30009 19:12 Penguin_ oh and why carnt i connect to 30009 coder 19:12 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.org:30009 UP 19:12 Penguin_ oh 19:13 marktraceur thexyz: Where are the logs, again? 19:13 OldCoder Penguin, it was just a timeout 19:13 thexyz marktraceur: http://irc.minetest.ru 19:13 moltenbot thexyz's link: IRC logs - Index 19:13 frogcrush OMFG thats creepy how up-to-date those are... 19:14 jordan4ibanez BOLD 19:15 iqualfragile frogcrush: they are uptodate to the sec, written by loggingbot i guess 19:15 MiJyn frogcrush, you realize that the bot automatically updates the website as logs are added? 19:15 frogcrush Yeah, just saying its creepy 19:15 Penguin_ it wont connect to 30009 19:15 KikaRz frogcrush, it's not... It's EPIC 19:15 iqualfragile one feels watched 19:15 KikaRz Moom! I'm on #minetest 's log! :) 19:15 frogcrush KikaRz lol 19:16 KikaRz xd 19:17 marktraceur thexyz: The RealBadAngel stuff starts around http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-09#i_2702424 but it's not as clear-cut as I remembered. He has generally disrespected me and several times told me that I don't understand something because I'm young. 19:17 moltenbot marktraceur's link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-09 19:18 jordan4ibanez I didn't think everyone would be so suped for my mobs lol 19:19 KikaRz Who can give me the WorldEdit link? I can't find it in Forums 19:19 marktraceur thexyz: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-10#i_2705727 is cy1's discussion 19:19 moltenbot marktraceur's link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-10 19:20 iqualfragile jordan4ibanez: your mobs? 19:20 jordan4ibanez yea 19:21 iqualfragile link? 19:21 jordan4ibanez http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4023 19:21 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: [1.0] 3D Animated NPC (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 19:22 MiJyn why doesn't /ignore -r work? 19:23 KikaRz Who can send me WorldEdit's link? I need it please. 19:23 thexyz i don't think it deserved kick/ban/mute 19:23 MiJyn KikaRz, which WE link? 19:23 Penguin stupid time out 19:23 KikaRz WorldEdit please. 19:23 KikaRz Hi sfan5. 19:23 sfan5 hi 19:24 jin_xi KikaRz: you know google? its good at finding minetest mods 19:24 MiJyn KikaRz, I mean, _which_ WorldEdit mod? 19:24 MiJyn Sfan5's, Uberi's 19:24 KikaRz forget Mijyn. 19:24 KikaRz jin_xi, my computer is too lazy 19:24 MiJyn lol 19:24 bulletrulz hi 19:24 MiJyn hi bulletrulz 19:24 KikaRz hi bulletrulz 19:24 bulletrulz sup guys 19:24 MiJyn good, you? 19:25 sfan5 KikaRz: Uberi's WorldEdit == my WorldEdit 19:25 Penguin how 19:25 Penguin minetest forum is better 19:25 bulletrulz pretty goood 19:25 MiJyn sfan5, really? Didn't know 19:25 KikaRz sfan5, what's the diference? 19:25 sfan5 KikaRz: there if no difference 19:25 KikaRz ok. 19:25 sfan5 MiJyn: uberi just created the github repo 19:25 bulletrulz Penguin, what do u mean? 19:26 Penguin dont matter 19:26 jordan4ibanez sfan5 can you use a for statement in your worldedit? not while 19:26 bulletrulz fuck windows ill use dockbarx 19:26 bulletrulz LOL 19:26 MiJyn I realized something... it seemsl ike as if PilzAdam is really copying mods and saying that they are his... he copied XYZ's cart mod, he copied my MC-like drop item inventory thingy, he copied sapier's mobs mod, and he copied many others... 19:26 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: why? 19:26 KikaRz MiJyn, wrong. 19:26 jordan4ibanez mijyn stop starting trouble lol 19:26 iqualfragile MiJyn: nope 19:27 sfan5 MiJyn: no 19:27 jordan4ibanez sfan5: performance! so you can do things while it edits 19:27 MiJyn Myself: Nope :P 19:27 PilzAdam MiJyn, somehow you are right 19:27 MiJyn seriously, just look at the codebase 19:27 bulletrulz MiJyn, well idk 19:27 iqualfragile he was inspired by thexyz cart mod 19:27 KikaRz yea 19:27 MiJyn look at how it's made 19:27 PilzAdam MiJyn, carts, mobs, MC item drop are completly written by me 19:28 MiJyn seriously, I looked, and they are too similar... @PilzAdam, why don't you just help the mod instead of copying it? 19:28 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: you can't do anything while a mod callback is running, doesn't matter if it uses for or while loops 19:28 MiJyn PilzAdam, right, but they work pretty much exacly the same 19:28 MiJyn *exactly 19:28 PilzAdam if you think so 19:29 MiJyn whatever 19:29 jordan4ibanez So by that statement, linux devs should just help windows lol 19:29 NakedFury they should 19:29 PilzAdam If you take Simple mobs as and example: if you look at sapiers huge code, and then look at the few lines I have done, you will realise that there may be an difference 19:29 thexyz MiJyn: most of my mods are under WTFPL, feel free to steal them and claim you wrote them 19:29 KikaRz sfan5, going to use your nuke mod :) 19:29 MiJyn thexyz, I know, but it's still rather unethical 19:29 KikaRz it lags our pcs? 19:30 bulletrulz you know what i noticed Mac Sucks 19:30 PilzAdam Carts mod: thexyz's carts mod uses setpos() to move the cart; I use setvelocity() wich is a completly different system 19:30 bulletrulz wait i aready knew that XD 19:30 sfan5 bulletrulz: oh really? 19:30 PilzAdam Item drop: my Item drop mod is a standalone mod while the other mods are all patches to the engine 19:30 MiJyn PilzAdam, mine too, and it was written way before yours 19:30 bulletrulz i also noticed windows is a pile of shit! 19:31 PilzAdam MiJyn, link? 19:31 MiJyn PilzAdam, sure 19:31 bulletrulz PilzAdam, i can agrre with mijyn here 19:31 bulletrulz he did make the mod before u 19:31 PilzAdam but we need to check if its simmiliar code 19:31 thexyz that reminds me of some guy claiming that i stole his mod and made xdoors2 based on his code 19:31 KikaRz guys, because i dislike wars, im going to test my mods. 19:32 KikaRz not my mods only, the people mods 19:32 jordan4ibanez Mijyn, your mod made the actual drops go to the player, which didn't work, his mod makes the player suck up the drops 19:32 bulletrulz and im pretty sure jordan4ibanez was also working on it 19:32 bulletrulz before u PilzAdam 19:32 MiJyn PilzAdam, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1597 19:32 moltenbot MiJyn's link: Get dropped items on step over (like minecraft) (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 19:32 thexyz oh, that probably was mauvebic 19:32 bulletrulz but PilzAdam most likely took the code from MiJyn 19:32 PilzAdam MiJyn, thats not a standalone mod 19:32 MiJyn jordan4ibanez, that's worse 19:32 PilzAdam its a patch to the engine 19:33 KikaRz (offtopic) jordan4ibanez, if a drop was like a p*nis... if the Mijyn mod sucks up the drops... 19:33 KikaRz xd 19:33 PilzAdam MiJyn, so you are wrong at this point 19:33 bulletrulz PilzAdam, no its a stand alone mod 19:33 MiJyn pilzadam, engine = C++ code 19:33 jordan4ibanez mijyn and pilzadam's mods are completely different 19:34 PilzAdam MiJyn, builtin is part of the engine 19:34 MiJyn PilzAdam, nope, it's part of the script 19:34 KikaRz ... engine. 19:34 PilzAdam define "script" 19:34 MiJyn so yes, it's a standalone mod, since it doesn't patch the engine 19:34 MiJyn PilzAdam, you know what I mean 19:34 jordan4ibanez Lol, this conversation is stupid 19:34 PilzAdam MiJyn, a standalone *mod* is something i put into the mod directory 19:35 MiJyn jordan4ibanez, I was thinking the same... actually, what PilzAdam does is stupid, and him trying to cover it up... wow 19:35 jordan4ibanez Mijyn, why are you trying to start trouble? 19:35 MiJyn PilzAdam, I call a standalone *mod* something that's written in lua 19:35 MiJyn jordan4ibanez, I was simply pointing it out 19:35 PilzAdam I just want to make clear that it is completly wrong when you say I have stolen code 19:35 Jeija Indeed... Everyone agrees that PilzAdam doesn't steal mods. He just improves some; So why is it important if builtin is a mod or the engine??? 19:35 bulletrulz PilzAdam, is compleatly wrong! 19:35 jordan4ibanez Pilzadam is very good at coding, or putting together things from different codes, you do the same thing, so why are you getting so flustered? 19:36 bulletrulz PilzAdam, a mod is a engine modifaction mijyn just didnt put it in a folder and give it to u! 19:36 PilzAdam I tried to make mods better 19:36 MiJyn jordan4ibanez, I rarely ever do the same, and when I do, I give credit 19:36 MiJyn even when it's not due 19:36 PilzAdam bulletrulz, no, a mod is an extention of the game content 19:36 jordan4ibanez Yea, but since he codes his own mods, he doesn't need to give credit 19:36 KikaRz RealBadAngel, problem with your mod 19:36 bulletrulz PilzAdam, maybe but u could put all the code MiJyn put it in a folder and it would WORK! 19:37 bulletrulz it could be a standalone 19:37 MiJyn yeah, my goodbye statement didn't seem to be a goodbye statement... anyways, goodbye 19:37 thexyz MiJn: if you want to be credited, release the mod under appropriate license 19:37 thexyz oh, fail 19:37 PilzAdam MiJyn, the carts mod gives credit to thexyz and simple mobs and item_drop are completly written from scratch by me 19:37 jordan4ibanez That guy is turning into a fucking idiot 19:37 Jeija lool he propably had a bad day 19:37 PilzAdam So, i guess its clear now that i dont steal code 19:38 jordan4ibanez Probably, but when you come in here spouting at a modder over opensource intelectual property, that's a little too stupid 19:38 PilzAdam I havent said anything about opensource 19:38 bulletrulz well im guessing minetest is this bad that mijyn is leaving are u serous 19:39 jordan4ibanez Lol 19:39 PilzAdam löl? 19:40 KikaRz lâül? 19:40 KikaRz xd 19:40 PilzAdam he just blames me that I have stolen code and just tried to proof that my code is written by me and noone else 19:40 Jeija But I guess there is a tiny piece of truth in what he said: Maybe, PilzAdam, you could try harder to get your code merged into the original code instead of starting a new topic. 19:40 Jeija No!! I don't want to cause another argument! 19:41 PilzAdam this only applies to item_drop 19:41 KikaRz I guess thexyz will kick/mute/ban someone. 19:41 PilzAdam but we need to talk about such things 19:41 PilzAdam I have learned something today 19:42 frogcrush Whats with all teh fighting in here today? 19:42 thexyz KikaRz: sure 19:42 Jeija oh nooo, not the we-have-all-learned-something-today... ^^ 19:42 PilzAdam no, just me 19:42 KikaRz what? 19:43 KikaRz ?? 19:43 jordan4ibanez I have a suprise 19:43 KikaRz what jordan4ibanez? 19:43 PilzAdam how to calculate the energie of alpha radiation in an magnetical field 19:43 KikaRz lol 19:43 jin_xi magnets, how do they work 19:43 frogcrush magnetical? 19:44 PilzAdam s/magnetical/magnetic 19:44 KikaRz i learned that: Nobody wants me if i am evil / stupid to everyone. 19:44 KikaRz :P 19:44 jin_xi hey lets make a magnets mod 19:44 KikaRz Yea! 19:44 PilzAdam jin_xi, no chance until you can set velocity/acceleration of players 19:44 bulletrulz back to what i was sating 19:44 jin_xi hmm, like electro magnetic pistons or something 19:45 Jeija Link a magneticfield entity to the player I guess? 19:45 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, u turned into a idoit when u switched to windows 19:45 jordan4ibanez I'm on linux now you little buttcheek, that deserves an ignore 19:45 PilzAdam todays topic: blame your favourite modder 19:45 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/WuPZV.png 19:45 bulletrulz lol 19:46 bulletrulz but u were on windows for a while so it made u a idoit 19:46 KikaRz who knows fixing this bug of unified inventory? 19:46 KikaRz 19:45:36: ERROR[main]: cannot open /home/joao/minetest/bin/../games/minetest_game/mods/unified_inventory/textures/init.lua: No such file or directory 19:46 jordan4ibanez Lol, i'm going to create a skin for celeron55 :P 19:46 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, you can "steal" the code from simple_mobs to make them move better 19:46 jordan4ibanez Yay! 19:46 Jeija I'm curious, jordan4ibanez: http://wiki.minetest.com/images/d/d5/C55.jpg 19:47 PilzAdam !wik celeron55 19:47 Minetest-tan "celeron55 leads quite a private life and so not much is known about his early life." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Celeron55 19:47 KikaRz Jordan4Ibanez: Where is steve and herobrine? 19:48 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez should have never switched to windows 19:48 jordan4ibanez I have to make a violent npc first 19:48 KikaRz yea... 19:48 KikaRz you traitor :'( 19:48 Jordach can they spawn one new npc once a day? 19:49 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, part 2? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07vlgded6Oo 19:49 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Minetest Let's Play - Part 1 - YouTube 19:49 KikaRz sry, cant watch 19:49 KikaRz no speakers. 19:50 jordan4ibanez Oh, since tomorrow is wednesday i can do that 19:50 thexyz PilzAdam: can't you just make invisible entity and attach player to it? 19:50 PilzAdam for what? 19:50 thexyz (23:43:57) PilzAdam: jin_xi, no chance until you can set velocity/acceleration of players 19:50 PilzAdam this would cause strange lags in moving 19:50 PilzAdam like the boats mod 19:51 KikaRz love boats mod. 19:51 PilzAdam singleplayer would work somehow, but servers.... 19:51 PilzAdam btw: boats mod; something I have stolen from jordan4ibanez :-p 19:51 KikaRz thexyz, why did you +q yourself? 19:52 thexyz KikaRz: just to show how wrong this channel is 19:52 PilzAdam to rage? 19:53 PilzAdam gtg in 8 mins. 19:53 KikaRz bye :) 19:53 PilzAdam "Its the final countdown dadadada dadadada..." 19:54 PilzAdam ok, I guess I just stop this 19:54 Penguin Hey 19:55 Penguin hi moltonbot 19:55 PilzAdam bye 19:56 * Penguin [5adf93f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.223.147.246] has quit #minetest 19:56 MiJyn just one quick thing 19:56 MiJyn before I completely leave the MT community I want to do one thing 19:56 MiJyn finish what I was working on lol 19:56 KikaRz ... 19:57 NakedFury why would you leave? 19:57 Penguin Lol 19:57 KikaRz NakedFury, discussion with PilzAdam 19:57 KikaRz and wars. 19:57 Penguin any 0.4.4 servers 19:57 MiJyn dang, I hate this IRC client :( 19:57 thexyz Penguin: minetest.ru:12345 19:58 thexyz !up minetest.ru 12345 19:58 Penguin is it good 19:58 KikaRz thexyz, the same as we playedi n? 19:58 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.ru:12345 UP 19:58 marktraceur thexyz: Any thoughts on the two situations I brought forward? 19:58 MiJyn I've already tol myself I would leave a rather long time ago (back in august or september, not sure) 19:58 thexyz (23:22:42) thexyz: i don't think it deserved kick/ban/mute 19:58 KikaRz tnt mod is too laggy 19:59 marktraceur thexyz: Noted, thanks. 19:59 MiJyn Will update my nether mod, completely copyright it, and then leave :) 20:00 Jordach the nether mod is shit 20:00 Penguin ikr 20:00 MiJyn lol it is 20:00 MiJyn and that's why I'll update it 20:00 MiJyn well, I'm already in progress 20:00 MiJyn it uses it's own C library 20:00 Penguin it bugs like F**k 20:00 MiJyn so it will generate super fast 20:00 Jordach BULLSHIT ALERT 20:01 MiJyn and so that it will stop minetest from bugging it lol 20:01 Jordach LUA CANT CALL C 20:01 MiJyn Jordach, yes it can 20:01 MiJyn look at the IRC mod 20:01 MiJyn it's a C library 20:01 MiJyn I mean, it's using a c library 20:01 Jordach oh yes, a FORK OF MINETEST FOR SUPORT 20:01 Jordach +P 20:01 Penguin lol 20:01 MiJyn Jordach, no, it uses it's own C library 20:02 MiJyn okay, whatever, you obviously can't understand. You will once I release it 20:02 MiJyn it uses Solaris 11's API 20:02 MiJyn *System API 20:02 MiJyn it's seriously awesome 20:02 Muadtralk the words solaris just kinda threw me off how can you use solaris and awesome in the same context? 20:02 KikaRz stop flamming 20:02 KikaRz hi Muadtralk 20:03 Muadtralk ello 20:03 MiJyn Muadtralk, you never used it did you? 20:03 MiJyn you never used it's APIs, right? 20:03 Muadtralk i just came in 20:03 MiJyn if you did, you would know that I'm talking about 20:03 Muadtralk i have no idea whats going on 20:04 Muadtralk i just decided making a comment like that may reveal some answers to the topic of discussion today 20:04 MiJyn it's alright, most people can't accept the fact that I'm leaving minetest for good :) 20:04 Muadtralk i have nothing against solaris 20:04 KikaRz Muadtralk, your server still on? 20:04 Muadtralk should be 20:04 KikaRz version=? 20:04 Muadtralk whats this about you leaving lkjoel? 20:05 Muadtralk latest dev 20:05 Muadtralk unless ive forgotten to update 20:05 MiJyn Muadtralk, I decided to do that a few months ago, but I delayed it because I needed to finish my mod first (never like to leave things unfinished) 20:05 KikaRz 0.4.4 its already there. 20:05 MiJyn hi bulletrulz 20:05 bulletrulz hi MiJyn 20:06 NakedFury you should never leave 20:06 bulletrulz MiJyn, has discussed with me 20:06 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/WecUx.png 20:06 jordan4ibanez c55 kik 20:06 jordan4ibanez lol* 20:06 Muadtralk tis true lkjoel please dont leave 20:07 KikaRz lol 20:07 bulletrulz Ikjoel will leave 20:07 MiJyn NakedFury, I've had enough of this whole community, and this whole game 20:07 bulletrulz mijyn was a good member 20:07 bulletrulz and i am leaving too 20:07 NakedFury take a break but dont permanently leave 20:07 * Muadtralk dies a little inside 20:07 Muadtralk why is everyone leaving! 20:07 KikaRz Many reasons. 20:07 NakedFury I die a little inside too 20:07 MiJyn Idk, I just know that I don't care about this game anymore neither do I care about this community. It's a dying game, and I don't want to be part of it's death 20:07 bulletrulz because minetest IS SHIT 20:08 KikaRz bulletrulz, this is in dev. 20:08 NakedFury its not dying, its more alive than ever 20:08 KikaRz if you like minecraft so much, just Alt + F4 and go! be free! 20:08 MiJyn seriously, it's a dying game, and everyone knows that 20:08 bulletrulz minetest is dying i might make a fork of it sometime 20:08 bulletrulz but im leaving it 20:08 KikaRz for me, minetest will never die. 20:08 KikaRz bulletrulz, no its not. 20:08 bulletrulz so is MiJyn 20:08 bulletrulz and so was jordan4ibanez 20:08 KikaRz its alive than ever 20:09 KikaRz now, going to dinner (2) 20:09 Muadtralk so what if its dying? 20:09 Muadtralk I play most games to death 20:09 KikaRz in 10 days, the world finishes. 20:09 KikaRz so, we all die 20:09 KikaRz :D 20:09 Muadtralk no.... 20:09 MiJyn minetest has been a part of me doing bad actions 20:09 bulletrulz LOL 20:09 MiJyn [13:09] being frustrated with people 20:09 MiJyn [13:09] I don't want to be like that anymore 20:09 MiJyn It's for me and for the others 20:09 bulletrulz that is mijyn talking to me 20:09 KikaRz well, brb 20:09 Muadtralk ahh.... 20:10 MiJyn I guess mientest will be better off without me :) 20:10 MiJyn *minetest 20:10 NakedFury it wont' 20:10 MiJyn but I want to first finish my mod :D 20:10 NakedFury every member that leaves is always missed 20:10 MiJyn random dungeon generator for the nether (it's awesome :D) 20:10 Muadtralk well lkjoel if you could please contact.... I belive it was your brother? he hasnt emailed me back in some time 20:10 MiJyn NakedFury, but it's ok, people will forget afterwards :) 20:11 NakedFury I wont 20:11 MiJyn Muadtralk, oh right, yeah, I thought he was waiting for you 20:11 NakedFury cornernote and now you? 20:11 thexyz MiJyn: k, bye 20:11 Muadtralk let me review the last email i sent him 20:11 MiJyn NakedFury, yep. Once I saw all of these great members of MT leave, my decision was only confirmed 20:11 bulletrulz Minetest Rest In Peace D: 20:12 MiJyn Muadtralk, ok, it might be his fault, no idea. WIll talk to him ASAP :) 20:12 MiJyn *will 20:12 Muadtralk erf i deleted it 20:13 bulletrulz minetest 2010-2012 one of the best and worst games 20:13 MiJyn yes 20:13 MiJyn it is 20:14 thexyz i believe that only weak people leave 20:14 bulletrulz 0.2.0 was good 20:14 bulletrulz 0.3.1 awesome 20:14 NakedFury MiJyn just take an extended vacation 20:14 thexyz though it's only my personal mind 20:14 bulletrulz 0.4 laggy and horrible 20:14 MiJyn thexyz, I thought so too, until I realized the horrible community, and how fast people leave it 20:15 Jordach MiJyn - i had to take a damn break 20:15 Jordach try it for a few days. see how you feel afterwards 20:15 MiJyn Jordach, yeah, and you returned 20:15 thexyz MiJyn: why is it horrible? 20:16 thexyz it can only be called horrible because of those leaving attention whores... right? 20:17 Muadtralk could you list those persons in the community you feel heavily contributed to your decision? 20:17 jordan4ibanez This game is better than minecraft, everyone shut the flasdjsakdw0999 up and play it 20:17 MiJyn thexyz, nope, it's because of the leaders... such as celeron55, vanessae, even you 20:18 jordan4ibanez I peed myself when i realised that the game had support for hats 20:18 MiJyn Muadtralk, it's not individual people, I was already determined to leave it, and then when other people left it (people who I respected), it just strengthened my decision 20:18 bulletrulz minecraft is horrible too 20:19 jordan4ibanez thexyz, is mijyn still talking? why don't you just mute him? 20:19 Muadtralk anyone give a damn about mythruna? 20:19 thexyz jordan4ibanez: why should i? 20:19 jordan4ibanez Because he is not worth your time 20:19 MiJyn Muadtralk, hey, you should see my blog post 20:19 KikaRz back 20:20 MiJyn jordan4ibanez, you realize that I coded mientest++ and blockplanet neaerly all by myself, and you just sat back and did nothing? 20:20 thexyz jordan4ibanez: he didn't violated any rules, why should he be muted? 20:20 MiJyn but yet you took the credit ofr it? 20:20 MiJyn and I was ok with it? 20:20 jordan4ibanez oh, i meant ignore not mute 20:20 KikaRz fuck 20:20 KikaRz my minetest cant be closed 20:20 bulletrulz wow jordan4ibanez 20:20 thexyz jordan4ibanez: i can't miss any part of discussion 20:20 KikaRz 20:06:37: INFO: sigint_handler(): Ctrl-C pressed, shutting down. 20:21 MiJyn jordan4ibanez, you realize that the reason you are ignoring me is that you know I'm saying the truth 20:21 KikaRz maybe i need to open another terminal to killall minetest 20:21 MiJyn you know what you have done 20:21 MiJyn heck, you know how old I am 20:21 KikaRz you have 13 years old 20:21 MiJyn 14 20:21 KikaRz or that 20:22 MiJyn he's 19 20:22 MiJyn he treated me horribly 20:22 MiJyn and yet he recieved all the credit 20:22 Jordach MiJyn - name a commit that made it to master 20:22 bulletrulz i gave mijyn the credit 20:22 Jordach thats yours. 20:23 MiJyn Jordach, I'm talking about blockplanet and minetest++ 20:24 thexyz 14? 20:24 Jordach Jordach, I'm talking about blockplanet and minetest++ - no one used them because they were incompatible with minetest master 20:24 MiJyn c55 was too stubborn to let me commit to minetest 20:24 MiJyn thexyz, yes 20:24 MiJyn http://lkubuntu.wordpress.com/2012/12/08/im-not-22/ 20:25 jordan4ibanez you people are still talking about minetest++? that was almost a year ago, it's dead, leave it 20:25 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, that was about 6 mothes ago 20:26 thexyz oh, well, i'll just shut up then 20:26 MiJyn oh yeah, and this, if anyone cares 20:26 MiJyn http://lkubuntu.wordpress.com/2012/02/25/howto-install-free-alternatives-to-minecraft/ 20:26 MiJyn jordan4ibanez, you are just trying to hide waht you did 20:27 MiJyn *what 20:28 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, brought me to linux but now now im just dont like him 20:28 Muadtralk i was hoping minetest++ would live on 20:28 MiJyn seriously, why doesn't anyone realize what this community has become? 20:28 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez was cool when stormrider was here 20:29 bulletrulz idk 200 people it was cool 3000 people its bull shit 20:29 MiJyn Even Jordach did horrible things to me... he was the one who wanted to start the "grief minetest" project, a project to stop minetest and put C55 down 20:30 MiJyn I then agreed to help, but that was because we were friends at the time 20:30 MiJyn do you remember when he blamed me for starting it? 20:30 Jordach I then agreed to help, but that was because we were friends at the time - that was an art of the troll 20:30 MiJyn seriously, you guys know what you did 20:31 bulletrulz yep they do 20:31 MiJyn Same for c55, he blamed me of doing things that I didn't do 20:32 bulletrulz c55 Dont get me started on him 20:32 MiJyn lol 20:33 bulletrulz c55 Is not the maker of minetest! 20:33 bulletrulz c55 is a person who takes credit 20:33 Muadtralk hmmm? 20:33 bulletrulz c55 is a douchbag 20:33 Muadtralk earliest commits date back to c55 bucko 20:33 bulletrulz Muadtralk, yeah he did that but from then on HE DID NOTHING! 20:33 MiJyn seriously, some of you were great, and that's awesome, I'm not blaming you, but really, think of what the rest have done. They don't want to admit it 20:34 MiJyn Yet, they are still "leaders" in minetest, even when they have done horrible things to others in MT 20:34 bulletrulz i can admit stuff 20:34 bulletrulz except i cant 20:34 bulletrulz cause i have not done anything 20:34 Jordach c55 is a person who takes credit - you seem to be easily misled 20:35 bulletrulz Wow 20:35 bulletrulz lol 20:35 Jordach the internet it not to be believed 20:35 MiJyn Jordach, wow 20:35 MiJyn wow, wow wow 20:35 bulletrulz Jordach, r u dumb 20:35 MiJyn you just used your argument against yourself 20:35 bulletrulz WHAT HAS C55 DO ! 20:35 bulletrulz DID 20:35 MiJyn @bulletrulz, he has done a lot, but that was because Kahrl helped him 20:36 MiJyn without kahrl, this game would have been dead 20:36 Jordach you just used your argument against yourself - i'm diagnosed with partial insanity and chronic depression 20:36 MiJyn Jordach, yep 20:36 MiJyn allright 20:36 MiJyn and autism 20:36 MiJyn your poitn is....? 20:36 MiJyn *point 20:36 MiJyn I know what that is, I've had that too 20:36 NakedFury you guys cant blame the "bad" community the game has when all you do is badmouth and talk crap about each other 20:36 MiJyn before, but got cured :D 20:36 bulletrulz too be honest he did alot till Modding was avvalbe then he just took peoples mods 20:37 Jordach bulletrulz - c55wool works with my wool 20:37 MiJyn NakedFury, I'm just tring to make the community aware of what they have done 20:37 MiJyn I hid behind before 20:37 bulletrulz He takes peoples Mods and renames em 20:38 bulletrulz mijyn has done alot 20:38 MiJyn but now, since I'm leaving, I want to let everyone know what the community has done to me. I hope that it can become better, I really do! 20:38 Jordach bulletrulz - cw 20:38 bulletrulz i have done nothing 20:38 bulletrulz jordach idk 20:38 bulletrulz EVERYBODY HERE IS MINETEST NOW! 20:38 Jordach vessels vanessa gladly subbmitted 20:38 bulletrulz minetest will be the way u act 20:39 MiJyn yeah, c55 does get influenced by the community 20:39 MiJyn he is not strong, that's why he acts that way 20:39 Jordach MiJyn - several people recently have been giving push rights 20:39 bulletrulz c55 is nothing without u guys 20:39 bulletrulz NOTHING! 20:39 bulletrulz This is not his game 20:39 Jordach to celeron55/master 20:39 bulletrulz This IS OURS! 20:39 Jordach and in goes the ignore 20:39 bulletrulz idc! 20:40 MiJyn Jordach, yeah, I know, but I was so disgusted by the code and the community a long time before he gave them 20:40 bulletrulz ingore me go ahead 20:40 bulletrulz XD 20:40 bulletrulz IDC 20:40 MiJyn I realize I have done some things wrong, exploding too much, but seriously... 20:41 MiJyn And I'm sorry for anything that I've done wrong, I really am! 20:41 bulletrulz all said in done hes leaving im leaving 20:41 bulletrulz more people will leave 20:41 MiJyn But please, be nice to everyone 20:41 MiJyn If nothing happens, I would have at least done my job 20:42 MiJyn done the best I could to improve this community and this game 20:42 moltenbot Jave27's link: Blogs | Quassel IRC 20:42 thexyz MiJyn: bye, again 20:42 MiJyn I've been patient for a long time, but now I'm finished with this 20:42 MiJyn thexyz, thanks lol 20:43 MiJyn I think I've done enough. I've stated my point, and now I'll let the community decide what will happen. 20:43 bulletrulz Good Bye Everyone lol 20:43 bulletrulz :D 20:43 bulletrulz good bye mijyn 20:43 bulletrulz what wait 20:43 MiJyn ? 20:43 bulletrulz nvm ill still talk to u 20:43 MiJyn ok 20:43 KikaRz loool 20:44 KikaRz bye MiJyn 20:44 KikaRz see you in heaven / hell 20:44 MiJyn I _will_ finish the nether mod as my goodbye "present" lol 20:44 KikaRz we are going to die in 21 Dec. 20:44 bulletrulz LOL 20:44 KikaRz so... 10 days left 20:44 bulletrulz LOL 20:44 bulletrulz KikaRz, NO 23 decemeber 24 20:44 * sema4 blinks 20:44 KikaRz no 20:44 KikaRz 21 Dec will start 20:44 KikaRz 24 will finish. 20:45 thexyz oh, he left 20:45 KikaRz PilzAdam, your carts mod its too laggy 20:45 thexyz KikaRz: try its "attachment" branch 20:45 KikaRz or that 20:45 KikaRz when i right click it... 20:45 KikaRz it goes without me 20:45 KikaRz let me test the boats mod 20:48 KikaRz boat is a bit better. 20:58 * marktraceur asks if there's any good reason for him to be in this channel 20:58 KikaRz marktraceur, so, you will accept me in your unignored list? 20:58 Muadtralk in case someone says something intelligent? 20:59 marktraceur KikaRz: I've unignored you, yes 20:59 marktraceur Muadtralk: I'm sure it's a possibility, but why am *I* here? 21:00 Muadtralk to breathe on this earth then eventually die an agonizing death and decompose turing into soil which the ungrateful spawn of the future will walk upon? 21:00 Muadtralk turning* 21:01 marktraceur Muadtralk: s/here/in this channel/ you cheeky bastart 21:01 marktraceur s/bastart/bastard/ 21:02 Muadtralk since when? 21:02 KikaRz Worst moment to die: When the scientists discover a big metal heart that lets you live forever. Costs 5 € or 2$ 21:02 KikaRz XD 21:02 marktraceur Muadtralk: What do you mean, since when? 21:03 Muadtralk when did s/turing/turning catch on? 21:03 sema4 in the 90's 21:03 marktraceur Muadtralk: Since regexes and IRC existed? 21:03 Muadtralk :P 21:03 marktraceur No ideas as to why I should be in this channel? 21:04 Muadtralk to keep peace? 21:04 Muadtralk to protect the innocent? 21:04 NakedFury for intelligent discussions about minetest, when they do happen. and to talk about mods 21:04 sema4 marktraceur, i am wondering the same, the last 2 days i have seen plenty of drivel, not much sensible minetest discussion 21:04 marktraceur NakedFury: #minetest-mods 21:05 marktraceur NakedFury: I haven't seen much of the former 21:05 Muadtralk and #minetest-dev for important things 21:06 Muadtralk and isn't there an even higher level? 21:06 marktraceur *shrug* I don't know about that, I'm not an active engine developer 21:07 Muadtralk wait..... #minetest-delta then #minetest-dev is for the elite 21:07 marktraceur Ha, elite. 21:08 Muadtralk thats what it says on the minetest-delta topic (04:06:31 PM) The topic for #minetest-delta is: minetest-delta ? Minetest developers | Logs: http://2pktfkt.de/irc/minetest-delta/ | http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=patchsets | http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=dev_index | Elite development channel: #minetest-dev 21:08 moltenbot Muadtralk's link: Logs 21:08 marktraceur Wow. 21:08 * marktraceur is becoming very convinced that volunteers aren't wanted 21:09 Muadtralk its a hierarchy 21:09 Muadtralk #minetest then #minetest-mods then #minetest-delta then #minetest-dev if you are worthy 21:09 marktraceur Pff. 21:10 marktraceur That about settles it, -delta is useless to me 21:11 marktraceur But in here? What's the benefit to being in this channel? 21:11 Muadtralk dealing with the utter nonsense and new players 21:11 Muadtralk otherwise there is no reason 21:11 marktraceur Hm. 21:11 marktraceur Well, thanks for the help 21:12 marktraceur I'll stick around for ~24 hours to see if anyone else has ideas 21:12 NakedFury to chat about minetest with other users 21:12 NakedFury to ignore when conversation is not about minetest 21:13 thexyz marktraceur: this is the only minetest-related semi-active channel 21:13 NakedFury talk about ideas or works in progress you are doing, either in a mod or the source 21:13 thexyz -mods and -delta are both dead 21:13 marktraceur NakedFury: I don't work on the source (and any work I did would be cast aside anyway), and mods are in -mods 21:14 marktraceur thexyz: Activity has become synonymous with jackassery in many instances 21:15 NakedFury I dont think it would be cast aside if you did something. example of somethings that would not be cast aside include putting the config stuff into the games proper menu tab, adding ingame menu screen, bug fixes to the engine, better network stuff(apparently current one is not too good) 21:16 Muadtralk apparently the maximum amount of users in #minetest-mods at one time was 12 21:16 marktraceur NakedFury: I've contributed before, the contribution was ultimately deprecated and my input as a contributor was ignored. 21:16 Muadtralk so i would assume that its dead 21:16 marktraceur NakedFury: Honestly I'm surprised I'm still in the credits. 21:17 KikaRz Nooo 21:17 KikaRz my world X_X' 21:17 cy1 marktraceur: what did you contribute? 21:17 NakedFury I think minetest source contributions should not be ignored or pushed aside 21:17 Muadtralk you made saplings marktraceur didnt you? 21:17 marktraceur Muadtralk: And ladders, yes. 21:17 Muadtralk thanks for that 21:17 Muadtralk those are two very important things 21:18 marktraceur Muadtralk: If I thought I wasn't appreciated by users I'd be saying different things :) it's the project organization that's the issue here. 21:18 KikaRz i guess im going to lose all world 21:18 KikaRz it will be corrupted :'( 21:18 KikaRz my game freezed. 21:18 Muadtralk eh 21:18 Muadtralk just restart the client 21:18 KikaRz ... 21:18 KikaRz how? 21:18 Muadtralk it may still be alive 21:18 KikaRz i was running the terminal 21:19 Muadtralk then restart the command? 21:19 Muadtralk or figure out what went wrong? 21:19 KikaRz game froze 21:19 KikaRz ctrl + c didnt worked 21:19 Muadtralk that happens more often then you think 21:20 KikaRz Yaaay! 21:20 KikaRz its not corrupted! 21:20 celeron55 lol, more minetest drama in here 21:20 marktraceur celeron55: Well it's not like it's without cause. 21:21 KikaRz celeron55, you must get that freezes out... 21:21 KikaRz the game is running a bit bad. 21:21 Muadtralk eh, i havent understood the drama for awhile 21:21 celeron55 marktraceur: the current situation is that this is the general discussion channel, and #minetest-dev is the channel that is used for eg. upstream merge discussions and engine stuff 21:21 celeron55 marktraceur: it's hard to set up some kind of a midway channel that would not die 21:22 marktraceur celeron55: Seems odd that you'd separate -dev and -delta to me 21:22 Muadtralk and KikaRz usually its an issue with the computer running minetest or certain mods your running. at least in my case with those crashes anyway 21:22 celeron55 marktraceur: what does that mean? 21:22 marktraceur celeron55: And generally that the project has very little organization 21:22 KikaRz Muadtralk, im without mods 21:22 KikaRz just with more blocks and boats 21:23 Muadtralk so its the computer 21:23 Muadtralk and is boats stable? 21:23 celeron55 marktraceur: ...and? 21:23 Muadtralk i havent used it yet 21:23 KikaRz yep 21:23 KikaRz a bit 21:23 celeron55 marktraceur: you can always complain, but doing something to make things better is rarer 21:23 marktraceur celeron55: Exactly--the project is disorganized, and that's not changing, and that's troublesome. 21:23 Muadtralk the words abit after yep just scared me abit 21:24 marktraceur celeron55: If I thought you were receptive to any change, I might try to organize something. You've done nothing to indicate that you even want new contributors. 21:24 celeron55 eh, wtf 21:24 Muadtralk did you do a /clearobjects or something? generally my game freezes when i do that 21:24 marktraceur (to me, maybe I've missed it) 21:24 celeron55 i guess you just haven't been looking or intentionally want to see things like that 21:26 marktraceur celeron55: Well, I'm sorry that I've misunderstood. I'd suggest first step to be moving from Doku to MediaWiki, possibly consolidating the user and dev wikis. Then a doc sprint would be useful. I'd love to organize both in one fell swoop, sometime mid-January perhaps. 21:26 KikaRz Muadtralk, no 21:26 celeron55 marktraceur: are you saying you just need a mediawiki and a permission to stuff all dev and user stuff in one? 21:27 marktraceur celeron55: There already is a mediawiki, and it's editable. I'll contact the wiki admin. I wanted your support because you know the code, and very few other people can say that (chicken and egg, with the docs shortage) 21:27 celeron55 i personally hate mediawiki though... i wonder if there are better alternatives 21:28 celeron55 the minetest.com wiki? 21:28 marktraceur Whatever is linked to from minetest.net as "Wiki" 21:29 celeron55 i'm actually always quite uncertain about it, because the admins of it don't (afaik) hang around in the community really at all 21:29 marktraceur celeron55: That's not helpful then, yeah. Maybe a new instance at wiki.minetest.net ? 21:31 marktraceur celeron55: I don't know about alternatives, though. MediaWiki is nice and standard, and friendly...not to mention good for community editing 21:33 marktraceur celeron55: I suppose we could play it cool and have a git repository for docs (or just a subdirectory of the engine), then build the docs into an HTML site 21:33 sema4 what is the problem with the current wiki? is it locked from editing? 21:34 marktraceur sema4: It's only for users, the devwiki is a little low-tech-seeming, and generally the developer docs are sub-par 21:37 celeron55 as i would probably be the maintainer of the hosting of the wiki, i don't really want more dodgy php stuff 21:37 marktraceur Heh. 21:37 celeron55 i wonder if this is good: https://github.com/benjaoming/django-wiki 21:37 moltenbot celeron55's link: benjaoming/django-wiki ? GitHub 21:37 VanessaE good evening all. 21:37 sema4 hi VanessaE 21:38 celeron55 i am going to switch the main site to django when i have a bit of time 21:38 marktraceur celeron55: Looks like replacing dodgy PHP stuff with dodgy Python stuff 21:38 celeron55 django is pretty solid 21:38 marktraceur celeron55: It's not like you can claim mediawiki isn't stable and rather good software :) 21:38 celeron55 django is a web framework, php is a programming language 21:39 marktraceur (he says, in a room with most of the people who write mediawiki) 21:39 celeron55 implementing all on one framework makes a more solid site than using multiple frameworks on top of php 21:39 frogcrush I could write a sys up in asp.net :D 21:39 celeron55 mediawiki has it's own, as does punbb, as does wordpress, as does... ehm, everything 21:40 celeron55 also, php has a culture of bad programming, which is baaaaaaaad on a public site 21:40 marktraceur *nod* 21:41 marktraceur celeron55: FWIW, we have some crackerjack security people, and a lot of sticklers for code quality. But it's up to you ultimately. 21:41 celeron55 also, i want to support better technologies 21:41 celeron55 but what i am asking is if eg. django-wiki has it's user side on par with anything 21:42 celeron55 there is some kind of a test wiki here http://wiki.overtag.dk/ 21:42 moltenbot celeron55's link: Start page -- django-\/\/ i K | 21:42 celeron55 if mediawiki offers something that is needed that nothing else provides, then it obviously is the only choice 21:43 jordan4ibanez celeron55, how does an entity set it's light value? 21:44 thexyz mediawiki is the most powerful one, i guess 21:45 thexyz though its syntax is far from best 21:45 thexyz especially those {{{{{{{{{{{ and }}}}}}}} 21:45 celeron55 i don't want the most powerful one; i want the one which is powerful enough and which will be easy to maintain for me 21:45 celeron55 and i am always looking for chances of learning stuff when doing open source things 21:46 thexyz btw, celeron55, i think it'll be fine now to replace current api.minetest.net with the new one http://wapi.minetest.ru/Main_Page 21:46 moltenbot thexyz's link: Minetest API 21:47 celeron55 thexyz: if it has the same content, feel free to 21:47 thexyz ok, i'll switch it later 21:48 thexyz (actually, api.minetest.net currently contains many mistakes) 21:49 thexyz oh, i forgot to move article about naming 21:49 thexyz and the getting starting one 21:49 thexyz wtf? http://wiki.overtag.dk/bASWcZqgYIvq/ 21:49 moltenbot thexyz's link: AFLWPDjPHfrJIKcTxQD -- django-\/\/ i K | 21:50 jordan4ibanez lmfao 21:50 celeron55 it's freely editable 8) 21:50 jordan4ibanez and c55 you're in my mod http://i.imgur.com/WecUx.png xD 21:50 thexyz does it have any anti-spam? 21:51 celeron55 what kind of? 21:51 thexyz is it ok for me to close this topic? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4038 21:51 moltenbot thexyz's link: Leaving (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums 21:53 thexyz celeron55: umm? 21:53 NakedFury make a leaving are in the forums so posts can rot there 21:54 celeron55 i wonder why so many people have such a large urge to shout about their quittings 21:54 cisoun I wonder why you still use CTP9. 21:54 thexyz attention-whoring 21:54 celeron55 i guess it's because they haven't paid for minetest 21:54 youlysses Just tried minetest for the first time after a-long break from minecraft (turned full/hardcore faif-advocate) and I'm super impressed. :-3 21:55 celeron55 so they don't feel any obligation to sound like they have made the right buying decision 8) 21:55 NakedFury you like it youlysses? 21:55 thexyz >see, i'm leaving, pity me! 21:56 jin_xi lol 21:56 celeron55 anyway, just close it 21:56 marktraceur thexyz: FYI, the template nonsense is getting replaced with Lua 21:56 marktraceur thexyz: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto 21:56 moltenbot marktraceur's link: Extension:Scribunto - MediaWiki 21:56 celeron55 it's not a place for constructive critcism or anything anyway 21:57 jordan4ibanez >i wonder why so many people have such a large urge to shout about their quittings 21:57 jordan4ibanez attention whoring 21:57 youlysses NakedFury: I do! 21:57 marktraceur thexyz: Might be useful to use that on a Minetest wiki, you might even be able to set it up so you can load a mod script and auto-detect the register_node and register_craft stuff 21:57 celeron55 maybe i'll delegate the marktraceur's wiki stuff to thexyz 21:58 celeron55 8) 21:58 celeron55 -the 21:58 marktraceur celeron55: FWIW I'm shouting about the state of the community, and me quitting would just be a result of that concern. 21:58 thexyz api documentation as a wiki would be a nice start 21:59 celeron55 i highly respect people who actually do something to make the community a better place 21:59 thexyz marktraceur: are there any usage examples? 21:59 marktraceur thexyz: For Lua? Sure, mw.org is using it now. 22:00 thexyz marktraceur: can you provide some links? just to see how can it be used 22:00 marktraceur thexyz: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Module:Compare 22:00 moltenbot marktraceur's link: Module:Compare - MediaWiki 22:00 markveidemanis anyone any good at interior design? 22:00 youlysses What's "use"? That to place a block? 22:01 marktraceur youlysses: As in, the key binding for 'use'? 22:01 marktraceur youlysses: It's normally used for going down ladders/ropes or going down in free-move 22:01 celeron55 actually the default is to use shift for going down 22:02 * youlysses is using dvorak, and for some reason his right track pad doesn't seem to be working in-game nor does there seem to be an option to place blokcs in keybindings. 22:02 marktraceur Oh, hm, that changed then 22:02 celeron55 but there is an option for using that key for going down things 22:02 thexyz celeron55: why was it changed, btw? 22:02 celeron55 many people seemed to want it 22:03 marktraceur youlysses: I've had trouble with dvorak on GNU/Linux as well. I usually re-bind crouch to left ctrl, the direction keys to ,aoe, and use to . 22:03 celeron55 and it's more intuitive to newcomers anyway 22:03 sema4 personally i prefer the separation of down vs use 22:03 youlysses marktraceur: Yup, dvorak here too. :-P 22:04 markveidemanis interion architect? 22:04 markveidemanis #r 22:04 marktraceur (I'm not psychic, youlysses joins us from the LibrePlanet community, based around FSF support) 22:04 thexyz marktraceur: i don't understand how can that replace templates 22:05 celeron55 thexyz: django has an akismet app thingy whatever that can be somehow easily added to almost anything i believe 22:05 celeron55 kind of hard to find direct examples of doing that with the wiki 22:05 marktraceur thexyz: Not all templates--stuff like frequently-typed phrases could still be useful (like {{cn}} for the citation needed stuff), but something complicated like "List 40 like things" could be much better in a module. 22:06 sema4 markveidemanis: i'll bite; what do you need? 22:06 thexyz this one is quite good http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Widgets, but it lacks ability to include widgets on Widget: page 22:06 markveidemanis look at my screenshots and plz give recommendations of what to put on inside 22:06 markveidemanis oh whoops i broke the internet:) 22:06 marktraceur thexyz: Well, and it's not for internal use, it's for including external content mostly 22:11 thexyz how about "i" 22:11 thexyz "i'm leaving" post = ban? 22:12 marktraceur thexyz: For what purpose? 22:12 celeron55 anwyay, i'm completely fine with thexyz hosting a complete wiki for minetest and will allocate wiki.minetest.net for that if it happens 22:13 marktraceur celeron55: Mid-January documentation sprint sound like fun, if we can get a wiki up and running by then? 22:13 celeron55 maybe we should set up like monthly publications of wiki and forum data for extra redundancy 22:13 OldCoder Sure 22:13 thexyz it's already "up-and-running" 22:14 marktraceur January 19th has a nice ring to it 22:14 OldCoder Didn't cornernote give back his API docs? 22:14 OldCoder thexyz, BTW can we revive NekoGloop threads and reassign owner? 22:14 OldCoder Excuse me; I was napping briefly 22:14 thexyz OldCoder: ask c55 for reassigning 22:14 celeron55 punbb makes that quite painful 22:14 celeron55 so if at all possible, i'd rather not 22:15 thexyz ok, then let's just repost them 22:15 * youlysses is easily impressed. He was so glad to see that objects in each slot in your invetory can now hold 99 units. :-3 22:15 celeron55 i will never ever again use forum software that does not have editing history of topics 22:15 celeron55 i don't even know if any like that exist but then i'll just use nothing... 22:15 thexyz are there any which support this feature? 22:16 OldCoder thexyz, celeron55, fair enough. May I have the raw data? I'll post it on a mirror that I maintain myself. NekoThreads I mean. 22:16 OldCoder Safe from deletion 22:17 thexyz oh, well, there's extension for vbulletin which is capable of that 22:17 celeron55 to get the messages, i need to import a database dump to my test punbb server and either i or somebody else has to browse up the threads from there and copy-paste by hand 22:17 celeron55 it's like hell but worse 22:17 OldCoder celeron55, I might do that 22:17 thexyz the only problem is that vbulletin costs something like 200$ 22:17 OldCoder Using Perl 22:17 celeron55 thexyz: an unlimited license? 22:17 OldCoder celeron55, would you be able to provide me with a database dump? 22:18 thexyz celeron55: no way 22:18 celeron55 OldCoder: no because my dumps contain passwords and all that, i need to make a script to make limited ones some day 22:18 OldCoder Ah! 22:18 NakedFury youlysses: the max is 99 but if you use the commands /giveme item -99 it will give something like 65k total items. this new stack cant take more of the same when mining more, it only goes down 22:18 OldCoder celeron55, O.K. If you repost NekoThreads I will capture them from outside. How about that? 22:18 thexyz oh, this extension is only compatible with VB 3.something which is no longer sold 22:19 celeron55 OldCoder: tomorrow 22:19 OldCoder All right 22:19 frogcrush celeron55: Do you need a wiki platform? 22:20 marktraceur frogcrush: Thoughts are welcome 22:20 celeron55 anyone want to implement post editing history to punbb? 8) 22:20 celeron55 yummy php! 22:20 thexyz well, as for now, the most powerful*popular forum engine is xenforo, afaik 22:21 celeron55 how old are neko's posts? i already have a backup of punbb running at a place thexyz knows 22:22 celeron55 hmm, most likely way too old 22:22 OldCoder I don't think I captured the posts but they go back a ways 22:22 thexyz celeron55: it's fine 22:22 thexyz i checked it before 22:23 celeron55 you can give OldCoder the user and password and url for it 22:24 thexyz i will 22:25 NakedFury thexyz another leaving post 22:25 thexyz catch! 22:25 thexyz too lazy to read his post thogh 22:26 celeron55 lol 22:26 thexyz well, he's 14 22:26 thexyz that explains a lot 22:27 OldCoder thexyz, What? 22:27 * OldCoder is confused 22:27 thexyz OldCoder: ? 22:27 marktraceur NakedFury: Who left? 22:27 OldCoder Who is 14? I am older 22:27 OldCoder Last time I checked :p 22:27 thexyz OldCoder: lkjoel is 22:27 OldCoder Ah 22:27 NakedFury myjin 22:27 NakedFury mijyn 22:27 thexyz you're more like ~50 i guess 22:28 OldCoder thexyz, Older :-) 22:28 OldCoder But not important 22:28 thexyz sure 22:28 marktraceur thexyz: What does his being 14 explain? 22:28 thexyz a lot 22:28 celeron55 the interesting thing about these posts is that nothing can be done about them 22:28 marktraceur thexyz: For example.... 22:29 celeron55 and the subjects of the posts 22:30 celeron55 if somebody declares minetest to be doomed - then, like, what? 22:30 celeron55 it's not like somebody had a magic wand to make it not doomed 22:30 sema4 how can anyone doom an open source project. 22:31 * sema4 shrugs. 22:31 celeron55 even assuming it *was* doomed (which doesn't really seem to be the case, by looking at the big picture) 22:31 marktraceur sema4: Easy - be an absolute ass in the IRC channel. They make it easy here by not interfering in anybody's business. 22:32 celeron55 there are lots of things to do to keep this thing going though 22:33 celeron55 for example somebody needs to start planning and figuring out 0.5 at some point 22:33 celeron55 and 0.4 will be long in use while 0.5 is in development 22:33 celeron55 in development too 22:34 celeron55 there are so many things that could use big redesigns and rewrites 22:34 marktraceur celeron55: Docs will help. 22:34 thexyz oh, wait, "To the mods: Please think before closing this topic. I cannot see how this could violate the forum rules" 22:35 thexyz i haven't even read this, i feel bad now 22:35 celeron55 i think lkjoel's post could be kept open 22:36 thexyz ok 22:36 celeron55 maybe there is someting in it that is worth talking about 22:36 marktraceur thexyz: You didn't really answer my question above, are you busy? 22:36 celeron55 if it starts as a flame war, just close it then though 8) 22:37 thexyz marktraceur: i don't know how to express that.. he just acts differently 22:37 celeron55 also, thexyz: bang people in the head (including me) if you get too much work; you are being too helpful 22:37 marktraceur Hrm. 22:37 thexyz i don't think so, but whatever 22:38 celeron55 i need to say that to people just in case 22:38 thexyz marktraceur: ? 22:39 thexyz don't you think so? 22:39 marktraceur thexyz: Not really. He's been in here, chatting, and I haven't noticed anything too different. 22:40 celeron55 if you're talking about it being unsurpising that a 14-year old leaves, i think an obvious "maybe" answer to that is that they generally are just going about finding what they like to do and naturally move to new things when they find that something doesn't work for them 22:41 marktraceur Reasonable to say, yes. 22:41 celeron55 that is, they haven't grown up yet 22:42 celeron55 altough some of the things in that post are just silly... why do people force themselves to remember so small things and make the small things make everybody's life much more inconvenient in the future because of that? 22:44 celeron55 otoh, i can see why lkjoel is pissed off; he really seems to have problems figuring out with whom it is beneficial to do stuff 22:45 marktraceur celeron55: Really, running a community is hard, and I understand that. But it's the little things that you have to watch for....in the future, another person may have the same problem. 22:46 celeron55 do you have some immediate ideas that would make the life of a future lkjoel easier? 22:47 * marktraceur hasn't read his post, link? 22:47 celeron55 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4039 22:47 moltenbot celeron55's link: The community has killed minetest. I'm leaving! (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums 22:48 marktraceur Oh, MiJyn === lkjoel 22:49 celeron55 from what i can see from what he wrote, he seems to have done work, but for things that quite were just... doomed to go to oblivion 22:51 marktraceur celeron55: Suggested solutions: Enthusiastic happiness about every patch and suggestion that comes through official channels, community-centric review as opposed to "Oooh, there's celeron55, he has to review it" (using a code review tool might help) (c.f. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org), saturating the community with more developers so the community-centric review gives a lot more diverse feedback 22:52 celeron55 it all ends up in not having some kind of solid organization in the project, but if i try to do any of that, people will just take it as bureaucracy and elitism 22:52 marktraceur (the last one is long-term, but meh) 22:52 celeron55 so if that is going to happen, it has to come from somebody else than me 22:52 marktraceur celeron55: Well, it comes down to needing infrastructure and software, I suppose. 22:53 celeron55 and to be honest, the fact that i gave thexyz, PilzAdam and darkrose push access to upstream has made things much better 22:53 celeron55 = things actually go there if i just idle 22:56 marktraceur *nod* 22:56 marktraceur I'd be excited to see more people able to submit patches more easily, as well as more people able to review and merge code. 22:56 celeron55 what i'd really like to try is to give certain people areas of responsibility, but you can't force that 22:56 marktraceur celeron55: Splitting the repository, maybe, could do it 22:57 celeron55 and growing it up from what minetest traditionally has been is hard as hell 22:57 marktraceur celeron55: Have minetest-lua_api and minetest-client_code and so on, and a jenkins job that pulls them in and commits everything to minetest-core after each commit to everything 22:57 celeron55 marktraceur: that will create terrible mess from building the project 22:57 celeron55 having two repos is already hard enough 22:57 Kray that is just stupid 22:58 celeron55 and indeed minetest+minetest_game DOES give a nice spread of responsibility 22:59 marktraceur Kray: Thanks, that's helpful feedback 22:59 marktraceur celeron55: Agreed, but there may be better splits as well. Maybe a mapper repository, or a util repository? 23:00 celeron55 what would that help? 23:00 celeron55 it'll just make things slip out of sync 23:00 celeron55 and makes things hard 23:00 Kray it can only be kept sane with celeron55 pulling all the stuff to upstream 23:00 marktraceur celeron55: Someone with Python experience, but no ability to run C++, could be given access to it. 23:01 celeron55 you can generally just tell people what they are allowed to do, and they'll follow it 23:01 marktraceur True 23:02 celeron55 for example, now there are basically... three levels of things for the minetest repo 23:02 celeron55 they are not written anywhere or anything, but people just follow some unwritten rules 23:03 FreeFull They should be written down for convienience 23:04 celeron55 the first is bugfixes of few lines; those generally go in with a single question from a single other one with upstream access 23:05 celeron55 hmm... i'm not actually sure how to form the others 23:07 OldCoder frogcrush, wb 23:07 celeron55 actually, i think stuff just goes to two categories; one being bugfixes and smallish non-gameplay-changing things, and the other one is considerable gameplay changes and large engine reworks and additions 23:07 trippedoutfish sup 23:07 celeron55 the first one goes as i said, and for the second one people wait for me to comment on 23:08 celeron55 this already makes the situation much better for me than before 23:08 marktraceur True! And much better for others. 23:08 * OldCoder is on an errand for a couple of hours but may return by Android 23:08 celeron55 there are two things that make it necessary for people to ask about big things from me 23:08 marktraceur I think one other change we could make is having a clear path to core access, or to minetest_game access. 23:09 * frogcrush waves to OldCoder 23:09 celeron55 the first one is that i am the one who knows everythin about the code 23:09 celeron55 +g 23:09 VanessaE thexyz: would you mind testing that you can reach vanessae.mine.bz:30000 and then add that as "VanessaE's Testing Server" to your server monitoring page? 23:10 marktraceur celeron55: Hopefully helped by the docs sprint. The second thing being? 23:10 VanessaE (requires 0.4.4 of course) 23:10 thexyz !up vanessae.mine.bz 23:10 celeron55 i can immediately see if something is completely stupid considering the design principles of some part, or if some part influences some non-obvious another one 23:10 moltenbot Minetest server vanessae.mine.bz:30000 UP 23:10 VanessaE well that answers that :D 23:10 marktraceur *nod* 23:10 marktraceur celeron55: I guess that unit testing could help that 23:10 celeron55 the second one is that there is no long-term plan for what features and gameplay things to add 23:11 celeron55 so i am the sole authority on that one 23:11 marktraceur celeron55: We could also have a more centralized way to discuss changes that should get made, e.g. forum posts or wiki pages. But yeah, long-term stuff is mostly yours. 23:12 celeron55 i think it is odd and awesome that people will trust me to do that even still, but this is not a very scalable or sustainable solution in the range of years 23:12 marktraceur True. 23:12 celeron55 i think not having democratic decision making is good for a game though 23:13 celeron55 so it needs some thought 23:13 marktraceur I guess that, as people get core access, they should understand that merging gameplay changes is important, but should be discussed anyway 23:14 marktraceur celeron55: Ultimately, we need to trust the core access people to make good changes as opposed to bad ones, and then it won't be a blocker for merge. 23:14 celeron55 ideally i should form a group of people that i think can decide stuff as a team towards a consistent non-generic goal 23:14 celeron55 and they would have the authority on gameplay 23:15 celeron55 other thins can be handled more like for programs in g eneral 23:15 celeron55 -" " 23:15 celeron55 +g 23:16 marktraceur celeron55: I guess generally, the guiding principle should be "If someone's going to think 'I wish this were configurable' and it isn't, don't merge it" 23:16 celeron55 currently things are going quite fine in terms of making an engine, but we are far off from where we maybe could be in terms of making a game 23:16 celeron55 marktraceur: no, gameplay does not work like that 23:16 celeron55 marktraceur: other parts work 23:16 marktraceur celeron55: Are you thinking content? Like, changes to minetest_game? 23:24 BackupCoder ve pm me pls 23:25 marktraceur I'm going to guess BackupCoder means to ping VanessaE ? 23:40 BackupCoder uberi hi 23:40 Uberi hey 23:41 NakedFury hey 23:43 hohoho ~_~ 23:49 hohoho anyone interested in a mars themed minetest? 23:50 marktraceur hohoho: So.....desert sand and stone all the way down? 23:50 hohoho back earlier in the year I did a slight mod to the game code and added some mods and changes to theme minetest as if you were on mars and had to create a colony 23:51 hohoho well basically a world of "desert" with certain mods to make it seem more like a space colony. I haven't updated it in about a year and trying to get some motivation to do it. I won't bother however unless someone else might enjoy it 23:51 hohoho I did it as a sort of learning experience in lua and c 23:51 marktraceur hohoho: It sounds sort of interesting. Terraforming, that sort of thing? 23:52 marktraceur hohoho: Do you have e.g. air nodes and mars_air nodes, and the latter are deadly over time? 23:52 VanessaE gah! what was codeandfix thinking by locking down the whole world by default (node_ownership)???? 23:52 Uberi getting serious about griefers, perhaps? 23:52 * marktraceur would play that, hohoho 23:53 hohoho well by default the whole "world" is like current desert except cactus is modded to look like some alien plant. all recipes for items are modded to use desert items and some greenery remains but you have limited resources that you brought with you 23:53 VanessaE well sure, but I know I'd sure prefer that the world NOT be locked down by default. 23:53 NakedFury that would be an interesting mode hohoho 23:53 marktraceur hohoho: I would strongly suggest including oxygen scarcity and terraforming. 23:53 hohoho VanessaE there's a topic somewhere on the forum I posted a "fix" for node_ownership so the world by default is diggable 23:54 * hohoho looks on forum 23:54 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=846 <-- the original 23:54 moltenbot VanessaE's link: [Mod] Node ownership [node_ownership] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 23:54 * VanessaE gives the bot a good, solid kick. 23:55 NakedFury an oxygen tech tree would be interesting. you need plants to create oxygen giving machines. living in closed areas 23:55 hohoho http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55096#p55096 23:55 moltenbot hohoho's link: Request to alter this mod slightly (no idea how to myself) (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 23:55 hohoho that node_ownership is altered so whole world is diggable by default. only owned land isn't diggable 23:55 VanessaE dead link. 23:55 hohoho imo the way it should be by default 23:55 hohoho dead already? 23:56 hohoho well let me repackage 23:56 hohoho lol 23:56 VanessaE it takes me to a generic upload page for filedropper 23:56 hohoho as for oxygen starvation, no idea how to implement such 23:56 VanessaE hohoho: use ompldr, they don't delete files :-) 23:58 hohoho http://ompldr.org/vZ25wMw 23:59 hohoho there 23:59 hohoho lol 23:59 VanessaE ah, thanks 23:59 hohoho ill have to keep that file host in mind 23:59 ecube hohoho: take a look at the drowning mod's code 23:59 VanessaE can you also add a post to the end of the node_ownership thread to reference this?