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00:00 KikaRz going to sleep
00:00 KikaRz byee
00:00 KikaRz Only one more last definition
00:00 KikaRz !define cookies
00:00 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: cookie definition: a small flat or slightly raised cake.
00:00 KikaRz *_*
00:00 OldCoder VanessaE, ty
00:01 OldCoder VanessaE, is there a recommended set of mods?
00:01 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~$ ls -m .minetest/games/vanessa_game/mods/
00:01 VanessaE 3dforniture, add_moreores_tool, bobblocks, bucket, campfire, carts, conifers,
00:01 VanessaE default, doors, dye, farming, fire, gloopores, habitat, hatches, homedecor,
00:01 VanessaE jungletree, legacy, locked_sign, maptools, mese_starter_kit,
00:01 VanessaE minetest-mod-jumping, minetest-mod-mesecons, moreblocks, moreores, particles,
00:01 VanessaE pipeworks, plantlife, player_textures, sethome, signs, stairs, stairsplus,
00:01 VanessaE technic, unifiedbricks, unifieddyes, unified_inventory, vessels, wool,
00:01 VanessaE workbench, worldedit, xdoors2, xpanes
00:01 VanessaE I use all of those :-)
00:01 OldCoder k
00:02 OldCoder VanessaE, If I run this; visit later and use Places to record your places
00:02 VanessaE the house in particular takes from technic, stairsplus, homedecor, moreblocks, and others.
00:02 OldCoder k
00:02 OldCoder VanessaE, any chance of uploading a ZIP of your _game folder?
00:02 VanessaE sure, sec.
00:02 OldCoder That will be much easier
00:03 KikaRz uh Vanessa
00:03 VanessaE uploading...
00:03 KikaRz got a problem
00:03 KikaRz [ 32%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/minetest.dir/main.cpp.o
00:03 KikaRz Linking CXX executable ../bin/minetest
00:03 KikaRz CMakeFiles/minetest.dir/server.cpp.o: file not recognized: File truncated
00:03 KikaRz collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
00:03 KikaRz make[2]: *** [bin/minetest] Error 1
00:03 KikaRz make[1]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/minetest.dir/all] Error 2
00:03 KikaRz make: *** [all] Error 2
00:04 VanessaE KikaRz: sounds like your minetest sources got trashed when the computer locked up.
00:04 VanessaE git pull -f
00:04 VanessaE then compile again
00:04 VanessaE OldCoder:  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/vanessa_game.zip
00:04 OldCoder VanessaE, ty
00:05 VanessaE OldCoder: I'm not 100% content with the floor plan of that house, I'm not sure it's correct to scale/shape..  but it's damn close if not :-)
00:05 OldCoder VanessaE, a copy of the world will be displayed on my servers. If I don't grant people interact then it can be updated later with new versions of your original. You must come and state places.
00:05 OldCoder Zeg9 made a mod for this
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00:05 OldCoder You can add places to your inventory
00:06 OldCoder Sudi, Hi
00:06 VanessaE cool
00:07 VanessaE OldCoder: OH, that world runs a modified version of default/init.lua where I changed how mese behaves
00:08 VanessaE (it's included in that game zip)
00:08 OldCoder VanessaE, got it
00:08 OldCoder I'll modify my scripts to take that into account
00:08 VanessaE I made mese act like a regular ore - mine it to drop mese lumps, smelt those to ingots, craft those to mese pick or craft stone + mese lump back to mese ore for use with old mods.
00:08 OldCoder Consider my copy to be a mirror for now
00:08 OldCoder Copying that text
00:08 VanessaE OldCoder: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/60
00:08 moltenbot VanessaE's link: Changed Mese object to be more consistent with other ores (see below). by VanessaE ? Pull Request #60 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub
00:08 VanessaE htse are the changes.
00:09 VanessaE these*
00:09 OldCoder k
00:09 OldCoder Copied into file
00:09 OldCoder Useful in general? ^ VanessaE
00:09 OldCoder Should I make this patch for everybody?
00:09 VanessaE I don't know
00:09 OldCoder What might it break? Sounds reasonable
00:09 VanessaE I am not sure if a world created or modified with that change in place will revert properly if the change is undone
00:10 OldCoder All right
00:10 OldCoder We'll wait then
00:10 OldCoder Just for your world
00:10 VanessaE worst case?  mapgen'd mese will turn to unknown blocks until more is generated elsewhere.
00:10 OldCoder k
00:12 VanessaE now I just gotta get c55 to pull that update so I can make HDX textures to follow.
00:19 VanessaE OldCoder: damn.  it's a one-way conversion.  Worldedit would be needed to revert the changes.
00:19 OldCoder VanessaE, don't worry about it
00:19 VanessaE I just tried a copy using an unmodified default/init.lua and mese turns to unknown blocks
00:19 VanessaE oh well.
00:19 OldCoder If the change is useful it can be part of your world permanently
00:19 VanessaE it s.
00:19 VanessaE is.
00:19 OldCoder I will copy your world and maintain the copy
00:20 OldCoder Indicate when you wish to update it
00:20 VanessaE it makes mese finally behave like a mineral.
00:20 OldCoder So discussion should take place about using it elsewhere
00:20 TANKERx64 thisisaverylongsentencewithoutspacesanditmightannoyalotofpeopletoseethis.
00:20 OldCoder ?
00:20 VanessaE heh
00:25 TANKERx64 mewo
00:25 OldCoder mewo?
00:25 VanessaE dyslexic kitty car?
00:25 VanessaE cat*
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00:55 TANKERx64 http://imgur.com/gallery/mfquR
00:55 moltenbot TANKERx64's link:             CAKE DAY BITCH! HAVE SOME CAKE - Imgur
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01:13 VanessaE meow.
01:14 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfEFQRgmakk
01:14 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: ?rockleetist? Rotten Girl, Grotesque Romance (English) - YouTube
01:14 NekoGloop Well i appear to be psychotic tonight
01:14 NekoGloop this oughta be fun
01:14 NekoGloop :3
01:14 VanessaE wanna see my house implemented in minetest? :-)
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01:15 NekoGloop i think i may have already seen it, but show me anyhow
01:15 VanessaE you can't have, I just built it earlier today :-)
01:15 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 port 30000
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01:24 VanessaE NekoGloop: some lag, I'm using worldedit to do some maintenance.
01:24 NekoGloop GOOD GOD
01:24 NekoGloop youtube, calm thyself.
01:24 VanessaE give it time.  I was stupid and ran the //dig command instead of using //set air :-)
01:25 NekoGloop VanessaE: those are the same
01:25 VanessaE er, no it ain't :-)
01:25 NekoGloop VanessaE: better to //replace the blocks you are targeting individually
01:25 VanessaE //dig actually goes through the process of digging blocks so the light recalculates.
01:25 VanessaE //set air doesn't :-)
01:25 NekoGloop Are you killing my 20 dollahs?
01:25 VanessaE there we go, that's done.
01:26 VanessaE naw, just clearing out some excess cobble.
01:26 NekoGloop connecting to server...
01:26 NekoGloop connecting to server...
01:26 NekoGloop connecting to server...
01:26 NekoGloop connecting to server...
01:26 NekoGloop connecting to server...
01:26 VanessaE I think I crashed it :D
01:27 NekoGloop Oh, i have to share this
01:27 VanessaE hang on, lemme restart it
01:27 NekoGloop In my college class, our teacher asked what a typeface was.
01:27 NekoGloop Me, being the smartalleck i am, said "it's when you type with your face"
01:27 NekoGloop He, then, banged his head on his keyboard
01:28 VanessaE there.  I'll show that fucker who's boss.
01:28 NekoGloop Everyone in the class laughed for a good minute.
01:28 NekoGloop VanessaE: read above. :3
01:29 VanessaE lol
01:38 TANKERx64 meep
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01:43 davidpace Is there any way for me to automatically log-in everytime I visit this site?
01:43 VanessaE davidpace: depends on your IRC client, which at present looks to be the web chat
01:43 VanessaE programs like Xchat or mIRC can auto-login to a channel on startup
01:43 davidpace It is webchat
01:47 NekoGloop say hello... to slenderman... http://ompldr.org/vZ21mOA
01:47 davidpace What is this?
01:48 davidpace ohhhhh
01:48 davidpace okay :)
01:48 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZ21mYQ
01:48 VanessaE eucchhh...  default 16px textures :-)
01:49 NekoGloop VanessaE: I know. Too bad my texture pack is even worse :s
01:49 VanessaE heh
01:49 VanessaE use my 64px HDX and all will be right with the world ;-)
01:49 NekoGloop no it wont
01:49 NekoGloop because then my computer will have a heart attack
01:50 VanessaE even with 64px?
01:50 NekoGloop even with 32px
01:51 VanessaE try anyway - even my anemic little laptop can handle 64px and still be playable :-)
01:56 davidpace I'd have to say VE's HDX Textures are the best I've seen yet :-)
01:56 davidpace Those, and MineToons
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01:56 VanessaE :D
01:57 NekoGloop why can no one appreciate old-school :s
01:57 cy1 hello NekoGloop
01:57 NekoGloop gtfo
01:57 VanessaE hey cy
01:58 NekoGloop F10
01:58 NekoGloop also known as the logout button
01:58 VanessaE kah--rash!
01:58 VanessaE :-)
01:58 davidpace I appreciate "old-school". Its just not as good as VanessaE's and Gambits Texture Packs :)
01:58 davidpace My Personal Opinnion though
01:59 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfEFQRgmakk
01:59 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: ?rockleetist? Rotten Girl, Grotesque Romance (English) - YouTube
01:59 VanessaE that's an opinion I can agree with ;)
01:59 NekoGloop kill the bot pls
01:59 NekoGloop i cant troll if this thing is here
01:59 VanessaE haha
01:59 davidpace :-)
01:59 NekoGloop tis a good song though
02:00 NekoGloop ignore the strange title.
02:00 davidpace Too Late
02:00 davidpace ;-)
02:00 NekoGloop hm?
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02:01 davidpace Nevermind
02:01 davidpace I'll listen to it though
02:02 davidpace O_o Strange music
02:02 davidpace Strange lyrics O_o
02:03 NekoGloop ... huh, woulda thought you'd say something about the picture
02:03 NekoGloop what is strange about it though?
02:03 davidpace Strange picture O_o
02:04 NekoGloop There, now you've covered all your bases.
02:04 davidpace Its Just not the kinda music I listen to.
02:04 NekoGloop heh.
02:04 NekoGloop I'm morbid today, can you tell?
02:04 davidpace Don't really like songs about girls burning in flames O_o
02:05 NekoGloop not girls burning in flames
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02:05 davidpace Its what it sounds like
02:05 NekoGloop -pictures- of girls burning in a fire
02:05 davidpace Oh fine
02:05 VanessaE *groan*
02:06 NekoGloop "I will burn in a fire photographs of your desire"
02:06 NekoGloop VanessaE: wat?
02:06 davidpace VE You like it? O_o?
02:06 VanessaE certainly not..
02:06 VanessaE I am not into weird stuff like that.
02:06 NekoGloop she hasnt even listened to it
02:06 VanessaE I don't need to :-)
02:06 VanessaE I got all the info I needed from your commentary :-)
02:07 arm44 who else has notoriety: Forever alone on imgur, show of hands?
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02:07 VanessaE not me.  I use my own webspace for that.
02:07 NekoGloop VanessaE: let's just say it's about jealousy of a morbid girl.
02:07 davidpace Did I miss your answer VE?
02:07 VanessaE [12-08 21:07] <VanessaE> I don't need to :-)
02:07 VanessaE [12-08 21:07] * davidpace has quit (Quit: Page closed)
02:07 VanessaE [12-08 21:07] <VanessaE> I got all the info I needed from your commentary :-)
02:07 davidpace My Router disconnected
02:07 arm44 VanessaE, you can't correct someone when they're WRONG ON THE INTERNET on your own webspace
02:08 VanessaE true. :-)
02:08 NekoGloop everything is wrong on the internet
02:08 davidpace Not minetest?
02:08 davidpace O_O
02:08 arm44 if anyone's wondering, they limit your ability to downvote, and you don't auto-upvote your own comments anymore
02:08 NekoGloop some things are more "OMFG WAT IZ THIZZZ CREEEPPEEHHHH"
02:09 davidpace uhhhh
02:09 davidpace wtf?
02:09 NekoGloop xD
02:09 NekoGloop blame the painkillers.
02:09 NekoGloop it works for me :P
02:09 davidpace uhhhhhh
02:09 arm44 NekoGloop, taken for what?
02:09 VanessaE haha
02:09 NekoGloop <== broken foot
02:09 arm44 sure, sure
02:09 NekoGloop i can blame the painkillers despite the fact i take like nothing all day AND I'M FINE.
02:10 arm44 did you break it playing football?
02:10 NekoGloop arm44: no.
02:10 NekoGloop You kidding, if i played football i wouldnt still be able to type
02:10 arm44 what then, Ultimate Tennis? Arcade Volleyball?
02:10 davidpace I have a question for you NekoGloop
02:10 NekoGloop davidpace: yes?
02:10 VanessaE arm44: he's always trippin', that's how :D
02:11 NekoGloop VanessaE: was just gonna say that
02:11 VanessaE ninja'd :-)
02:11 davidpace Why did you post the link for that "scary" song about jealous girls burning in fire?
02:11 NekoGloop davidpace: go on.
02:11 arm44 VanessaE, i find it scary that your doctors prescribe Oxycodin. Who doesn't get hooked up on heroin?
02:11 NekoGloop davidpace: nonono
02:11 VanessaE arm44: actually doctors here are reluctant to do so usually.
02:11 NekoGloop the "jealous one" is the one singing.
02:11 davidpace Yes, and she was burning!
02:11 NekoGloop nope
02:11 davidpace Wait...
02:12 VanessaE arm44: more commonly vicodin, which ain't too different
02:12 arm44 VanessaE, still (and depending on a doctor)
02:12 davidpace I have to go for a few mins brb
02:12 NekoGloop VanessaE: I'm allergic to vicodin. I have moltrin.
02:12 VanessaE heh
02:12 NekoGloop which is like doing nothing, because I'm not taking it
02:12 VanessaE most of that shit doesn't work on me anyway
02:12 VanessaE just give me WEED.
02:13 NekoGloop because I dont have to take it
02:13 NekoGloop XD
02:13 * VanessaE <- bad arthritis :(
02:13 marktraceur Anyone else getting errors on 0.4.4?
02:13 marktraceur 18:24:30: ERROR[main]: Some exception: "basic_string::_S_create"
02:13 * NekoGloop <- allergic to cardboard. yeah.
02:13 marktraceur Also just plain ol' segfault
02:13 VanessaE marktraceur: the only errors I commonly see are attachment errors, but nothing in the lots
02:13 VanessaE logs*
02:13 arm44 marktraceur, teleporters crash mt1.gameboom.net
02:13 arm44 or is that 0.4.3?
02:14 marktraceur arm44: This server doesn't have teleporters, and my client's crashing, not the server
02:14 NekoGloop I have like no antiallergins in my body whatsoever...
02:14 arm44 marktraceur, weird
02:14 NekoGloop or whatever the things that make you not have an allergy to something are.
02:14 NekoGloop idk
02:14 NekoGloop dont ask me.
02:14 arm44 NekoGloop, who else then?
02:15 VanessaE NekoGloop: that's what we call the Loratadine abe takes for his cat allergy (yes.)
02:15 NekoGloop arm44: wikipedia
02:15 arm44 sounds like you should be the expert
02:15 NekoGloop VanessaE: Seems legit
02:15 arm44 VanessaE, are you forcing your cat-alergic husband to live with a cat?
02:15 VanessaE NekoGloop: it sucks :-/
02:15 VanessaE arm44: actually he's forcing himself - because we both love our kitties :-)
02:16 arm44 if you say so...
02:16 arm44 then again, i wouldn't live with them anyway
02:16 VanessaE why?
02:16 arm44 they're bastards, and i don't find it cute
02:16 VanessaE ours are just nutz but they're both very loving
02:17 NekoGloop arm44: OI!
02:17 VanessaE especially Jeannie.  she just can't get enough attention :-)
02:17 arm44 NekoGloop, oi?
02:17 VanessaE Cookie is a holy terror :-)
02:17 NekoGloop arm44: DIE
02:17 VanessaE (and is in her aloof phase now)
02:17 arm44 NekoGloop, how about your cats die?
02:17 * NekoGloop dies
02:17 arm44 VanessaE, i really don't care, sorry
02:18 VanessaE arm44: jeez why so much hate?
02:18 NekoGloop Neko = Cat
02:18 arm44 i <opposite of care> actually
02:18 arm44 VanessaE, apart from disliking bastards, i'm also alergic to child-hating catlovers
02:18 VanessaE "child-hating cat lovers"?  huh?
02:18 VanessaE o.O
02:19 NekoGloop ... wat
02:19 NekoGloop arm44: Neko = Cat. So shove your complaints over to #minecraft. pls
02:19 arm44 people who seem to like animals (cats in particular, because they're bastards, so it's even more bewildering) more than people
02:20 VanessaE ok, lemme trim that down...."child-hating"?
02:20 arm44 VanessaE, yes, they then proceed to be annoyed by children being children all the while considering animals their children
02:21 arm44 it's disgusting and unnatural
02:21 VanessaE I dunno what you're on about...there'no child hate here.
02:21 VanessaE there's
02:21 arm44 not to flaunt that word around
02:21 NekoGloop arm44: cornernote, leave us now
02:21 arm44 VanessaE, when i see a young couple walking a dog, i am appalled
02:21 arm44 *only a dog
02:22 VanessaE arm44: ok, so a couple like Abe and I who can neither have children at all nor can legally adopt shall be forced to have no such companions?
02:22 arm44 basically, people replace children with animals, and it's repulsive. but i said that already
02:22 VanessaE (not to mention the financial outlay which we are incapable of supplying)
02:22 arm44 VanessaE, why aren't you legally able to adopt?
02:22 NekoGloop arm44: leave. now.
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02:23 arm44 NekoGloop, shut up. now.
02:23 VanessaE arm44: because I'm sterile.
02:23 NakedFury im back again!
02:23 NekoGloop arm44: go to #peoplelovinganimalhaters
02:23 VanessaE wb NakedFury
02:23 NekoGloop arm44: or shut up
02:23 NakedFury thank you. was watching batman trilogy
02:24 arm44 VanessaE, how does that prevent you from adopting?
02:24 VanessaE arm44: that's the not-having children part, sorry.
02:24 VanessaE the not-adopting part is too personal and complicated for discussion here.
02:24 arm44 ok
02:25 arm44 VanessaE, anyway, i obviously don't mind you keeping animals, and hope you enjoy them.
02:25 arm44 it's the people who put them before people who i'm talking about.
02:25 arm44 *was. will cease
02:25 VanessaE arm44: we enjoy their company and their antics and they clearly enjoy our company...  but wee the problem is in your primary statement:
02:26 VanessaE "when i see a young couple walking [only] a dog, i am appalled"
02:26 VanessaE and yet, how are you to know what their capabilities are in regards to rearing children (assuming they can have/adopt any)
02:26 arm44 VanessaE, because i'm a capabilitist, and assume they're capable :-)
02:26 VanessaE better to assume the opposite in this case.
02:27 VanessaE if a couple adopts a pet first, it's probably because they don't believe they can handle children
02:27 arm44 i'm sorry, but i'm sure the majority is capable
02:27 VanessaE depends on where you are.
02:27 VanessaE do you have kids?
02:27 arm44 nope
02:27 arm44 not married
02:28 arm44 VanessaE, actually, i guess they could be a boyfriend and a girlfriend, but i got an impression they were married. maybe just jumped to conclusions
02:28 arm44 *could've been
02:28 VanessaE then you have NO idea just how expensive it is.
02:28 arm44 i have ciblings though
02:28 arm44 *siblings
02:29 VanessaE who have children of their own?
02:29 arm44 and we were poor
02:29 arm44 so i do know
02:29 arm44 how it can still work out
02:29 NekoGloop did you know that on average, a child costs upwards of $200 grand a MONTH?
02:29 NekoGloop er, year
02:29 NekoGloop damn you fingers.
02:29 arm44 heh
02:30 NekoGloop tiiiiime to listen to a different song as well
02:30 VanessaE NekoGloop: it's worse than that - closer to 1.5 million over 18 years if you want the child to grow up with the full opportunities, education, etc. that they deserve.  At least in the US.
02:30 arm44 we lived off of... 200 a month
02:30 VanessaE arm44: where?
02:30 VanessaE Haiti?
02:31 arm44 VanessaE, europe.
02:31 VanessaE europe.
02:31 arm44 europe.
02:31 VanessaE different economy, different opportunities.
02:31 arm44 more opportunities in US
02:31 NekoGloop lolnope
02:31 VanessaE average pay there at the time was probably somewhere in the $500 US/mo range if I guess right.
02:31 arm44 yep
02:32 arm44 VanessaE, i highly doubt that
02:32 VanessaE here?  median income is a bit over $2000/mo and you can't live on that in some states.
02:32 arm44 this was poor even for us
02:32 VanessaE wait, make that $4000-odd
02:32 arm44 the average was 6 times that
02:32 VanessaE (and you *still* can't live in some places on that :-) )
02:32 arm44 well, from what i gathered
02:32 arm44 3 times * 2 parents working
02:33 NekoGloop 2 parents, 1 kid
02:33 arm44 and there's 5 of us, so other families are smaller
02:33 VanessaE Between Abe and I, we make a little under $2000/mo, and we had to settle in a fairly cheap area to be able to make ends meet.  Children?  Never gonna happen even if the physiological problems didn't exist.
02:33 NekoGloop we ~barely~ live on what we make
02:33 arm44 plus we had no uncles/aunts or much relatives who could've helped us out.
02:34 arm44 basically, trust me, in the poverty game, we win
02:34 NekoGloop arm44: seriously, go away.
02:34 VanessaE arm44: try supporting two people on US $940 a month in FLORIDA.
02:35 NekoGloop arm44: minetest channel. minetest is the topic. talk about MINETEST.
02:35 arm44 NekoGloop, you should seriously shut your mouth before I tell you something honestly
02:35 arm44 or "something honest"
02:35 VanessaE ahem.
02:35 NekoGloop what was that>?
02:35 arm44 NekoGloop, you should seriously shut your mouth before I tell you something honestly
02:35 arm44 or "something honest"
02:36 NekoGloop i dont believe i heard you, what was that?
02:36 NekoGloop "I wanna be banned"?
02:36 arm44 was kicked by VanessaE: arm44
02:36 arm44 joined #minetest
02:36 arm44 so, when does NekoGloop get kicked?
02:36 VanessaE now are you gonna cut out the virtual dick waving or do I need to make that a little more permanent?
02:36 arm44 there must be some rules i'm not aware of
02:37 NekoGloop arm44: yeah, I'm not assaulting anyone
02:37 arm44 NekoGloop, who did I insult?
02:37 arm44 VanessaE, ask Bad_Command if I respond well to threats
02:37 NekoGloop arm44: everyone with a pet and no child
02:37 NekoGloop arm44: and every catlover.
02:37 arm44 arm44, not at all
02:37 arm44 was kicked by VanessaE: arm44
02:38 VanessaE not that that will hold for long because of his bouncer.
02:38 NekoGloop did he just talk to himself?
02:38 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSZiSpmgsXo :3
02:38 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: UTAU??????Bad Apple!!??????Kasane Teto - YouTube
02:39 NekoGloop lol. bot cant understand japanese.
02:39 VanessaE lol
02:40 NekoGloop give it some lessons, iqual!
02:40 NakedFury I still dont understand why people bring their egos and pride and macho atitude to the internet chat
02:40 VanessaE so instead of having to parse 40 or so characters, you want it to parse some 2000 or so? :-)
02:40 NekoGloop heh
02:40 NekoGloop japanese doesnt have -that- many
02:41 NekoGloop closer to 1600~
02:41 VanessaE just kidding :-)
02:41 NekoGloop NakedFury: because they are dickheads?
02:41 NakedFury well if you do japanese then do russian, french, russian, etc
02:41 NakedFury go all the way
02:41 NekoGloop well japanese for the channel that gets more japanese links :>
02:41 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJlKwFPvwQs
02:41 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: ?????/Namine Ritsu] Bad Apple!!?UTAU???? - YouTube
02:41 NekoGloop like that one./
02:42 NekoGloop bah. not bad enough my foot is clumsy, now my fingers too?
02:43 NekoGloop i hate the new youtube layout. :<
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02:45 NekoGloop aaaaand i'm rambling again with noone listening.
02:46 aluminum-foil-ta hi people!
02:46 NekoGloop wb
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02:48 * VanessaE restores OldCoder from the backup.
02:48 VanessaE haha
02:48 VanessaE NekoGloop: don't feel bad, I have more bad days than good ones anymore where typing is concerned.
02:49 NekoGloop Meow.
02:49 Muadtralk wow thats alot of question marks
02:49 VanessaE there's a reason my responses are getting slow lately.  I have to spend about half my time correcting typos and/or stopping to think about which letter to hit.
02:50 Muadtralk yes nekogloop i do believe this bot should be prepared for these links
02:50 VanessaE Muadtralk: make it transliterate them if possible.
02:50 BackupCoder Hi
02:50 VanessaE at least we would be able to get some vague idea of what it says then ;-)
02:50 OldCoder VanessaE, Heh
02:51 VanessaE I never said it was permanent...
02:51 NakedFury ohhh we got more of the Coder family
02:51 VanessaE OldCoder: please review the past hour of channel activity.  Do you agree with my action in this regard?
02:51 TANKERx64 JELLO
02:52 NekoGloop TANKERx64: PIE
02:52 OldCoder VanessaE, reviewing
02:52 OldCoder NakedFury, He is a test
02:52 NakedFury ahh thought it was a friend or family member
02:53 VanessaE TANKERx64: Pi?  http://dollarstoremom.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/pi-pie.jpg
02:53 VanessaE :-)
02:53 NekoGloop lol
02:53 VanessaE saw that on abe's facebook page earlier today :-)
02:53 TANKERx64 ohgosh
02:53 VanessaE cutest version of the motif I've seen in a while
02:54 Muadtralk ack
02:54 Muadtralk im slipping
02:54 Muadtralk mixed up the 6 and 2
02:55 Muadtralk 3.1415962
02:55 Muadtralk dang it
02:55 * OldCoder sighs
02:55 OldCoder VanessaE, om
02:55 VanessaE take your time.
02:56 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhdPXL1cJq8
02:56 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: ??7?MMD????Bad Apple!! feat.Miku Hatsune & Kasane Teto - YouTube
02:56 OldCoder VanessaE, Did NekoGloop ask him to stop speaking to him? Technically NekoGloop could /ignore but a kick is equally justified. Is this correct under community standards? NekoGloop could /ignore but other person can be warned instead. So kick was a warn instead of an /ignore. Does this cover it?
02:57 NekoGloop I cant /ignore
02:57 NekoGloop remember? doesnt work thru webchat
02:57 OldCoder Oh? Why not? Then kick is justified.
02:57 OldCoder If this is explained
02:57 OldCoder If /ignore is not possible then greater civility is required
02:57 NekoGloop [21:58] == IGNORE Unknown command
02:57 OldCoder That is my suggestion for a rule
02:58 OldCoder Recommend /ignore but...
02:58 OldCoder If /ignore is not possible then greater civility is required
02:58 OldCoder Does this make sense?
02:58 VanessaE I never use /ignore if I can avoid it, lest I miss something that may later be important
02:58 OldCoder We are referring to the users
02:58 VanessaE right
02:58 OldCoder and to recent events in particular
02:58 OldCoder That is my position
02:58 OldCoder Ban was not to be permanent
02:58 OldCoder It was a warning and a request
02:58 OldCoder If /ignore is not possible then greater civility is required
02:58 VanessaE in this case my justification for the ban was that kicking him was followed up immediately by "I don't respond well to threats".
02:59 OldCoder State that
02:59 VanessaE THAT is what got him banned.
02:59 OldCoder When in returns
02:59 OldCoder Hmm
02:59 OldCoder That is subjective and up to the op
02:59 VanessaE oh and what he says in private?  "I will not submit" and similar.
02:59 OldCoder Too bad
02:59 * OldCoder sighs again
02:59 OldCoder If he comes back tell him he can talk to me if he wishes
03:00 BackupCoder or meM
03:00 * VanessaE wonders who BackupCoder is..
03:01 BackupCoder :-)
03:01 OldCoder Me but I have not registered the nick
03:01 OldCoder Will need to register a second one
03:01 VanessaE ok, I figured.
03:01 OldCoder That is for when the 1st connection is down
03:01 OldCoder Not to be guaranteed until a new registered nick is in place
03:05 TANKERx64 s1336 t15ht m0t3®6uc!
03:06 NekoGloop please, this isnt a java decoder
03:09 VanessaE lol
03:22 VanessaE there.  "computer" mod added to my server and put into use right away :-)
03:23 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3830
03:23 moltenbot VanessaE's link: [MOD] Computers (Decorative) [0.1.2] [computer] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
03:23 VanessaE shaddup bot
03:23 VanessaE :-)
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03:23 Aqua_ hello
03:23 VanessaE hi Aqua_
03:24 Aqua_ is ur server online?
03:24 VanessaE yup
03:25 Aqua_ port again?
03:25 VanessaE 30000
03:25 Aqua_ i mean adress
03:25 VanessaE 24.181.193.82
03:25 VanessaE write it down :-)
03:26 Aqua_ yep got it in notepad
03:26 Aqua_ how can u get a skin?
03:26 VanessaE just go search for one on some Minecraft skins websites then give me the address to the skin you wanna use
03:27 Aqua_ mmm can u creeate ur own?
03:27 VanessaE I'll install it (requires server restart)
03:27 VanessaE sure, that's possible
03:27 VanessaE I've never done it though but any image editor can do it, or use an online minecraft skin editor.
03:29 Aqua_ ok thanks
03:30 VanessaE no prob
03:30 Aqua_ is a minetest player the same as minecraft?
03:30 Aqua_ i mean the size
03:31 Aqua_ and shape
03:31 VanessaE yeah, same size and shape
03:31 VanessaE they use minecraft skins directly.
03:32 Aqua_ http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/588304/perry/
03:32 moltenbot Aqua_'s link: perry | Minecraft Skin
03:32 Aqua_ is this possible?
03:32 VanessaE no
03:32 Aqua_ why?
03:32 VanessaE it needs standard skins fo rnow
03:32 VanessaE we don't have a model for that little guy :-)
03:33 Aqua_ http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/590896/slender/
03:33 moltenbot Aqua_'s link: Slender | Minecraft Skin
03:33 Aqua_ so this isnt?
03:33 Aqua_ posible as well
03:33 VanessaE nope.
03:33 VanessaE not yet
03:33 VanessaE use standard player models
03:33 VanessaE (besides, someone else already uses slenderman, shaped as a standard player)
03:34 Aqua_ http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/612862/zombie-herobrine-redone/
03:34 moltenbot Aqua_'s link: Zombie Herobrine redone | Minecraft Skin
03:34 VanessaE oy
03:34 VanessaE well that'll work if you really want it
03:34 Aqua_ http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/612867/zombie-pigman/
03:34 moltenbot Aqua_'s link: Zombie Pigman | Minecraft Skin
03:34 Aqua_ ok cya later
03:34 VanessaE the zombie pigman will work too
03:44 NakedFury is the player character model going to remain the way it is or will it be changed to a more unique minetest original way some time soon?
03:44 VanessaE I believe the intent is, eventually, to allow for other models.
03:44 VanessaE I mean, that's possible now with a mod, but there's no "standard" yet.
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03:45 NakedFury well, will the standard/default model be a minecraft model or eventually something else?
03:45 VanessaE dunno
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04:09 Sevein hi o/
04:09 VanessaE hi
04:39 OldCoder Sevein, Hello!
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05:35 khonkhortisan What would it take to move the settings in-game?
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05:36 devlab Hi, can Lava burn the items?
05:36 khonkhortisan lava causes fire on wood-based items
05:37 devlab and for not wood-based?
05:38 khonkhortisan if it's not wood-based, it won't burn even in the presence of fire.
05:38 devlab unless a modification is present?
05:38 khonkhortisan unless groups={flammable=1} or something like that
05:39 khonkhortisan you could make rock burn just by changing its groups
06:34 devlab what do i do with tin? (moreores mod)
06:37 khonkhortisan make bronze with it
06:38 khonkhortisan you end up with lots of extra copper ingots, and can't make blocks from it, or bronze
06:38 VanessaE make bronze, or use it in the process of making a homedecor fridge
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06:53 Aqua_ Hello
06:53 VanessaE hi
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06:54 Aqua_ how come i keep getting _
06:54 Aqua_ in my name
06:56 VanessaE because someone else on this network probably uses Aqua also
06:56 Aqua_ ? thats me]
06:56 khonkhortisan Are you registered with freenode?
06:56 VanessaE [12-09 01:57] * [Aqua] (~Aqua@74.143.225.146): Aqua
06:56 VanessaE [12-09 01:57] * [Aqua_] (65afbf97@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.175.191.151): 101.175.191.151 - http://webchat.freenode.net
06:56 moltenbot VanessaE's link: freenode Web IRC (qwebirc)
06:56 VanessaE see?
06:57 VanessaE two different addresses.
06:57 Aqua_ thats weird
06:57 VanessaE if they're both you, find the other one and shut it down.
06:57 khonkhortisan netkillall Aqua
06:57 Aqua_ few days ago i could use Aqua
06:57 khonkhortisan no one can steal my username, I have a password on it
06:57 VanessaE ditto
06:58 VanessaE mine's registered with an impossible-to-guess password.
06:58 Aqua_ so basically someones using my name?
06:58 VanessaE Aqua_: it isn't "your" name if you didn't register it with Nickserv.
06:58 khonkhortisan /msg Nickserv identify <password>
06:59 khonkhortisan oops I mean
06:59 khonkhortisan /msg Nickserv identify <password>
06:59 VanessaE On IRC, nicknames are not "managed" by default, except via Nickserv, and for that you need to explicitly ask it to register you and you have to log in with it
06:59 Aqua_ i dont get why theres another Aqua?
07:00 VanessaE because you didn't register your nick, so someone else somewhere signed on with the same one,
07:00 VanessaE this is the Freenode network.  There are thousands of channels and hundreds of thousands of users.
07:00 VanessaE someone else was bound to pick "Aqua" eventually.
07:01 Aqua_ i see
07:01 Aqua_ ill get a new nickname
07:01 VanessaE this is not specific to Minetest btw
07:01 VanessaE We're just one channel out of thousands. :-)
07:02 Aqua_ how come u have got @ in front of ur name?
07:02 khonkhortisan because you're not using xchat
07:03 VanessaE because I have channel operator status right now.
07:03 * VanessaE stands down.
07:03 khonkhortisan I show a green dot for you
07:03 Aqua_ So will i have to get a new name?
07:03 khonkhortisan You could continue existing in your current perdicament
07:04 VanessaE Aqua_: if you want to be unique, probably.  Otherwise stick with the _ for now.
07:04 Aqua_ :(
07:05 VanessaE sowwy :(
07:05 Aqua_ can u only have a-z and 1-9
07:05 Aqua_ 0-9
07:05 VanessaE a-z, 0-9, and some symbols
07:05 VanessaE must start with a letter
07:06 Aqua_ OK
07:06 VanessaE I think {}[]() \ _ are allowed
07:06 VanessaE I forget what else
07:06 khonkhortisan You can have a-z, 0-F
07:07 Aqua_ is - allowed?
07:07 Aqua_ so i cant get Aqua back?
07:07 VanessaE probably not
07:08 VanessaE a-z A-Z 0-9 _ - \ [ ] { } ^ ` |
07:09 VanessaE those are the allowed chars
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07:09 Aqua_ guess thats my new nickname
07:09 VanessaE now go register it
07:09 VanessaE /msg nickserv help register
07:11 Aqua_ how?
07:11 VanessaE that command ^^^^
07:11 Aqua_ now wat
07:11 VanessaE nickserv will answer with help about how to register.
07:11 VanessaE follow the instructions it gives.
07:11 VanessaE if you want your nick to stick and be safe, you probably need to get off the web chat and get a regular IRC client.
07:12 VanessaE Xchat can, for example, automatically sign in with nickserv when you start it
07:12 VanessaE other clients probably also.
07:12 Aqua_ dinner brb
07:22 ShiftyCake back\
07:22 ShiftyCake back
07:23 ShiftyCake [18:31] -NickServ- ShiftyCake has now been verified. [18:31] -NickServ- Thank you for verifying your e-mail address! You have taken steps in ensuring that your registrations are not exploited.
07:23 ShiftyCake now wat?
07:23 ShiftyCake What does it do?
07:24 ShiftyCake You there
07:24 VanessaE I'm here, sorry
07:25 VanessaE now, write your password down
07:25 VanessaE next time you sign in,  /msg nickserv identify MYPASSWORD
07:25 VanessaE (replace MYPASSWORD with whatever you used)
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07:25 ShiftyCake What is my password?
07:25 VanessaE you had to have made one up in order to register.
07:26 ShiftyCake no i didnt
07:26 VanessaE /msg nickserv REGISTER <password> <email-address>
07:26 VanessaE you had to have given it a password.
07:27 ShiftyCake ooops how do i change it
07:27 ShiftyCake i made it the example
07:27 VanessaE /msg nickserv set passwd oldpassword newpassword
07:28 VanessaE and,
07:28 VanessaE /msg nickserv set enforce on
07:28 VanessaE that'll cause nickserv to force someone off of your nick if they're using it.
07:30 VanessaE anyway, time for me to get to bed.
07:31 VanessaE night all,.
07:35 ShiftyCake cya
07:35 ShiftyCake thanks for everything
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07:49 devlab Um How can i make bronze?
07:50 devlab Smelt the tin and copper?
07:51 Aqua_ yes
07:51 Aqua_ then craft togerther
07:53 devlab I'm converting them ores into ingots
07:53 Aqua_ cool
07:55 Aqua_ hi
07:55 devlab Smelting an iron lump gives you steel ingots?
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08:30 OldCoder U.S. worlds going down for changes
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08:40 markveidemanis i have a texture challenge
08:41 markveidemanis plz make a turret like the one from portal 2 in 16x16
08:42 markveidemanis HI
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09:12 devlab hey, what's the logic behind the furnace?
09:13 Calinou there is none, minecraft also has a furnace, both furnaces are pretty similar
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09:14 devlab and by that i mean how may units of fuel per 11 units of items
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09:21 Calinou devlab: depends what fuel you want to use
09:21 Calinou http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Furnace
09:21 moltenbot Calinou's link: Furnace - Minetest Wiki
09:21 Calinou http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Smelting
09:21 moltenbot Calinou's link: Smelting - Minetest Wiki
09:21 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/unified_inventory.zip
09:22 RealBadAngel almost done version of UI, if some1 wants to test it
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09:27 john_minetest mese can burn? lol.
09:28 emerge-plus For how long?
09:28 john_minetest 30 seconds cooking 10 items
09:29 john_minetest but coal is better
09:30 john_minetest it's all at the link Calinou sent: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Smelting
09:30 moltenbot john_minetest's link: Smelting - Minetest Wiki
09:31 markveidemanis www.google.co.uk
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09:31 ShiftyCake Hello
09:31 ShiftyCake Anyone there?
09:31 john_minetest hi
09:32 ShiftyCake Im Aqua
09:32 markveidemanis hi
09:33 ShiftyCake do u play on gameboom?
09:35 john_minetest i am on my own server and markveidemanis has an own server, too.
09:36 emerge-plus BTW, I found strange thing while trying to make better textures for animals mod: http://storage6.static.itmages.ru/i/12/1209/h_1355043589_8196358_bb800e952c.png
09:36 Calinou seems legit
09:36 emerge-plus Part of jeans is glued to the arm.
09:37 ShiftyCake lol
09:37 emerge-plus Very, very suspicious vombie :3
09:39 ShiftyCake if u wanted to do ur own skin how many pixels will they have to be
09:39 emerge-plus Also, here more screenshots:
09:39 emerge-plus http://storage6.static.itmages.ru/i/12/1209/h_1355043589_8196358_0de16fe62a.png
09:39 emerge-plus http://storage6.static.itmages.ru/i/12/1209/h_1355043589_8196358_bb800e952c.png
09:39 emerge-plus http://storage6.static.itmages.ru/i/12/1209/h_1355043589_8196358_3c2c9e3350.png
09:39 emerge-plus http://storage6.static.itmages.ru/i/12/1209/h_1355043589_8196358_16649237fc.png
09:44 emerge-plus ShiftyCake, I just drowned my upon the default textures.
09:45 ShiftyCake where would i put my textures for player
09:46 ShiftyCake where?
09:46 ShiftyCake i got a skin where do i put it?
09:48 emerge-plus Why would you need them in singleplayer?
09:49 emerge-plus There only one skin for all player at the moment.
09:50 ShiftyCake so i can look at myself
09:51 emerge-plus :3
09:52 ShiftyCake i go on to my own server open to minetest
09:52 ShiftyCake two minetest*
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09:53 ShiftyCake 127.0.0.1
09:53 emerge-plus What OS are you using?
09:53 ShiftyCake wiindows xp
09:54 ShiftyCake ill link u a picture
09:56 ShiftyCake http://i.imgur.com/ww0f2.png
09:56 ShiftyCake there ya go
09:56 ShiftyCake thats my skin
09:57 emerge-plus Fuu, zombie from minecr*ft...
09:57 ShiftyCake not really its slighty rotten
09:58 markveidemanis_ there is a lying animation for the player, can someone make a /lay command, to go along with /sit
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09:59 KikaRz my computer is now making updates
09:59 KikaRz VanessaE, yesterday, my computer went to a black screen saying somethings with battery or energy or something
09:59 KikaRz but the mouse were there
09:59 KikaRz just 2 lines appearing
09:59 ShiftyCake what os?
09:59 KikaRz Ubuntu (xubuntu version) 12.04.1 LST
09:59 KikaRz Too laggy for me
09:59 KikaRz i cant make it stable.
10:00 ShiftyCake heres another of me slaying zombies
10:00 ShiftyCake http://i.imgur.com/NZIC7.png
10:00 KikaRz want to try again minetest
10:00 KikaRz in this pc (linux)
10:00 KikaRz *-*
10:00 emerge-plus KikaRz, lol, I think you can't cause Ubuntu is based on unstable debian.
10:01 Calinou emerge-plus: quit trolling..
10:01 KikaRz if isnt laggy, ill make minetest to be played in linux.
10:01 Calinou buntus are much more stable than debian sid
10:01 Calinou or even testing
10:01 KikaRz if is laggy, ill go back to windows
10:01 KikaRz well, but it lags 2 in 2 minutes
10:01 Calinou KikaRz: old GPUs are often slower with opengl than directx
10:01 KikaRz i cant move the mouse, using numlock , caps lock or scroll lock
10:02 KikaRz Calinou, yesterday i tried minetest, and it was faster than directx
10:02 KikaRz (in linux)
10:02 KikaRz directx tested in windows
10:02 KikaRz opengl tested in linux
10:02 Calinou no direct3d on linux unless you run the windows binary with wine :P
10:02 KikaRz anyways... i prefer debian.
10:02 Calinou and this doesn't work anymore since a few versions iirc
10:02 KikaRz Wine sucks
10:02 Calinou debian is unusable
10:02 Calinou no u
10:03 KikaRz my ass sucks.
10:03 KikaRz ;c
10:03 KikaRz kidding.
10:03 emerge-plus Calinou, sorry
10:04 emerge-plus But, why not use debian stable if you need stability?
10:04 KikaRz No CD/DVD device.
10:04 KikaRz its broken
10:04 KikaRz and pen drive installation? sucks
10:05 emerge-plus Hm, install using debootstrap
10:06 emerge-plus And another PC.
10:06 KikaRz ...
10:06 KikaRz no thanks
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10:06 KikaRz i just have 2 pcs
10:06 KikaRz this and another OLDER than this
10:07 Calinou emerge-plus: debian stable's software is way too old to be usable
10:07 KikaRz yep
10:07 KikaRz i got here
10:07 KikaRz a cd of debian
10:07 KikaRz wait, going to tell you the version
10:07 KikaRz 6.0.1a
10:07 KikaRz 1a or la
10:07 KikaRz netinst
10:08 markveidemanis_ KikaRz
10:08 markveidemanis_ all set up?
10:08 KikaRz what markveidemanis_?
10:08 KikaRz what set up?
10:08 KikaRz no.
10:08 markveidemanis_ want to see sitting animation on my server?
10:08 KikaRz my pc crashed... giving errors in compiling
10:08 KikaRz etc
10:08 Calinou markveidemanis_: ip?
10:08 markveidemanis_ you can sit
10:08 KikaRz markveidemanis_, already seen
10:08 KikaRz in a mod
10:09 ShiftyCake hey calinou u never granted me privs to ur server
10:09 markveidemanis_ calinou: my name> whois
10:09 Calinou u > you
10:09 Calinou ur > your
10:09 Calinou also, i'm not really going to my server anymore... noone goes to it
10:09 Calinou we have way too many servers
10:09 KikaRz Calinou
10:09 OldCoder Heh
10:09 KikaRz i want to play on your
10:09 KikaRz but... depends on what mods it have
10:09 OldCoder Can there be too many?
10:10 OldCoder Like too many potato chips
10:10 * OldCoder is resting
10:10 OldCoder Zzz
10:10 ShiftyCake i played it once
10:10 ShiftyCake its fast\
10:10 KikaRz OldCoder is now AWAY.
10:10 markveidemanis_ who wants to play on my server with mauvebrick's mobpack
10:10 Calinou connecting..
10:10 ShiftyCake ill try
10:10 Calinou OldCoder: i think you should shut down my server, maybe put the world for download
10:10 KikaRz i dont, markveidemanis_
10:11 KikaRz change your name to markveidemanis
10:11 KikaRz without _
10:11 OldCoder Calinou, Zzz
10:11 KikaRz thats beter
10:11 KikaRz *better
10:11 OldCoder Calinou, it's a good world why shut it down? But if you want the map made available sure I will do that later today
10:11 KikaRz Aperture science...
10:11 ShiftyCake infinityprojects and yours both shut down. thats great
10:11 KikaRz We do the most, because we can
10:12 KikaRz for the god of all of us
10:12 KikaRz except once you're dead.
10:12 KikaRz :P
10:12 KikaRz Listening : Still Alive - Portal 1
10:12 Calinou OldCoder: noone goes to it, occasional players wanting to go to it just ragequit because noone plays the game
10:12 Calinou fragmentation is bad
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10:12 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:12 KikaRz Welcome back PilzAdam.
10:12 ShiftyCake hi
10:12 Calinou ShiftyCake: i'm not doing that because of you
10:12 Calinou we all know you're a landmine-like griefer :P
10:13 ShiftyCake ?
10:13 ShiftyCake Im not
10:13 OldCoder Calinou, suggestions are welcome. I have often refused to give people worlds just because they want one. Your world is large and well established. It stays. Some special worlds will also stay as museums.
10:13 OldCoder Would you take away Skyblock? Or the novel world of Harbor?
10:13 Calinou huh?
10:13 KikaRz Calinou.
10:13 OldCoder Calinou, huh what. The above is perfectly clear.
10:13 ShiftyCake How do u change ur nick?
10:14 KikaRz Your server got Technic?
10:14 * OldCoder is resting now
10:14 KikaRz Your server got Mesecons?
10:14 * OldCoder will try to update to 0.4.4 soon
10:14 ShiftyCake How do u change ur nick?
10:14 KikaRz ShiftyCake , /nick
10:14 OldCoder ShiftyCake, by this:
10:14 OldCoder /nick ChocolateCake
10:14 ShiftyCake ok thx
10:14 OldCoder with no space at the start
10:14 OldCoder Zzz
10:15 KikaRz updating stupid linux that is laggy to me.
10:15 KikaRz If it stills laggy, ill rage quit
10:15 KikaRz (not linux in general)
10:15 KikaRz just ubuntu
10:15 KikaRz i've tried Debian Before...
10:15 KikaRz GOOD Feedback
10:16 KikaRz Aqua_ !
10:16 KikaRz *o*
10:16 Aqua_ Well doesnt let me do Aqua
10:16 Aqua_ VanessaE explained that to me earliear
10:16 KikaRz you registered?
10:17 KikaRz someone got your nick: Aqua
10:17 Aqua_ i know
10:17 KikaRz in another channel
10:17 Aqua_ i know
10:17 Aqua_ few days ago it worked
10:17 Aqua_ my nick's ShiftyCake now
10:17 KikaRz But, if you want to hack it...
10:18 KikaRz * [Aqua] (~Aqua@74.143.225.146): Aqua
10:18 KikaRz * [Aqua] cameron.freenode.net :Vilnius, Lithuania, EU
10:18 KikaRz * [Aqua] inactivo 49:01:27, ligou-se: Fri Dec  7 09:15:54
10:18 KikaRz * [Aqua] is logged in as Aqua
10:18 KikaRz * [Aqua] Fim da lista WHOIS.
10:18 ShiftyCake not me
10:18 markveidemanis Calinou
10:18 markveidemanis i'm testing a 1oomb map, wanna join
10:19 Calinou OldCoder: well keep it as a museum then.
10:20 KikaRz his IP is there.
10:21 Zeg9 joined #minetest
10:21 KikaRz SwiftCake, got a nick for you... AquaCake
10:21 KikaRz lol
10:21 KikaRz i crashed him without intentions.
10:21 KikaRz Welcome back Zeg9.
10:21 KikaRz ...
10:21 devlab how many uses for Titanium (titanium mod), lol
10:22 KikaRz devlab, you're...
10:22 devlab what?
10:22 KikaRz a rat.
10:22 KikaRz XD
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10:22 devlab what the?
10:22 KikaRz Welcome Back RealBadAngel!
10:23 RealBadAngel hi
10:23 KikaRz !define rat
10:23 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: rat definition: any of numerous rodents ('''Rattus''' and related genera) differing from the related mice especially by considerably larger size.
10:23 KikaRz lol
10:23 KikaRz Hi RealBadAngel!
10:24 markveidemanis calinou koin again.
10:24 markveidemanis #join
10:24 * Calinou just finished installing chromium from upstream
10:24 Calinou version 25 ahoy!
10:24 Calinou added menu entry, added it as default browser
10:25 KikaRz .-.
10:25 Calinou also added menu entry/terminal alias for minetest
10:25 KikaRz why the updates are too long?
10:25 markveidemanis use the supercomputer/transporter to move around
10:26 KikaRz hate mega updates.
10:26 Calinou KikaRz: so you are upgrading?
10:26 KikaRz no
10:26 KikaRz im making updates
10:26 KikaRz of the system
10:26 Calinou upgrading is going from eg. 12.04 to 12.10
10:26 KikaRz not upgrading
10:26 KikaRz No
10:26 KikaRz only if i was pressing the button: Upgrade Ubuntu
10:26 Calinou k then
10:26 KikaRz but im not
10:26 KikaRz 12.10 sucks
10:27 Calinou KikaRz: make sure you go to preferences > window manager > compositing > disablze
10:27 Calinou disable*
10:27 Calinou compositing will always slow down games, even 2D ones..
10:27 Calinou (if you're using xfce)
10:27 KikaRz Listening to: The Wanted - Glad you Came
10:27 KikaRz where?
10:27 Calinou markveidemanis: takes a lot of time to download stuff
10:27 Calinou KikaRz: you can find preferences menu with alt+f1 :p
10:27 markveidemanis yep, big modpack
10:27 Calinou still at 0% media
10:28 KikaRz well, yesterday
10:28 KikaRz i was going to launch super tux
10:28 KikaRz and it stayed in the black screen a bit of time
10:28 KikaRz 10 minutes later... (music of supertux) and screen!
10:28 markveidemanis i forgot to remove the creative mode mod
10:28 KikaRz hate that bug
10:28 KikaRz * [Aqua] (~Aqua@74.143.225.146): Aqua
10:28 KikaRz * [Aqua] cameron.freenode.net :Vilnius, Lithuania, EU
10:28 KikaRz * [Aqua] inactivo 49:01:27, ligou-se: Fri Dec  7 09:15:54
10:28 KikaRz * [Aqua] is logged in as Aqua
10:28 KikaRz * [Aqua] Fim da lista WHOIS.
10:29 KikaRz NOT THAT
10:29 devlab lol
10:29 KikaRz Warning: No Support for locale: pt_PT.utf8
10:29 KikaRz calinou
10:29 KikaRz alt + F1 dont works
10:29 KikaRz going to try alt gr
10:30 KikaRz nope
10:30 markveidemanis Calinou
10:30 markveidemanis try disabling preload item visuals
10:30 KikaRz he already got
10:30 Calinou I got "client disconnected" :P
10:31 Calinou KikaRz: there is no portuguest translation for minetest then :P
10:31 Calinou KikaRz: you're using xfce?
10:31 KikaRz Listening: Katy Perry - Hot and Cold
10:31 Calinou then just click on top left button...
10:31 KikaRz Yes Calinou
10:31 Calinou does the same thing as alt+f1
10:31 KikaRz and then?
10:31 Calinou system preferences > window manager tweaks > compositing
10:31 Calinou uncheck "enable compositing"
10:31 markveidemanis get the modpack i have, run once and all media will be cached
10:31 Calinou 12% media now
10:32 markveidemanis ok....
10:32 KikaRz Compositing is already disabled
10:33 KikaRz guess window compositing makes my pc more speed
10:33 Calinou lol no
10:33 KikaRz well
10:33 Calinou due to the way X is made, compositing slows down stuff a lot, even if you add no effects
10:33 Calinou even on my computer stuff is much slower
10:34 KikaRz lol
10:34 KikaRz but ok
10:34 KikaRz no problem
10:34 KikaRz disabled
10:34 markveidemanis calinou: progress?
10:34 Calinou 38%
10:34 KikaRz well, going to take breakfast
10:36 * Calinou is installing eye of gnome
10:36 Calinou ristretto is meh
10:38 BREAKFAST-Kika there is a youtube music downloader for linux?
10:39 PilzAdam MiniTube
10:39 * BREAKFAST-Kika is finishing updates... (Now, appears that HAAAAAALELUIA! HAAAAALELUIA... HALELUIA...
10:39 BREAKFAST-Kika XD
10:40 BREAKFAST-Kika there is a good recorder for linux?
10:40 BREAKFAST-Kika (not that one that speeds up my pc
10:40 BREAKFAST-Kika not speeds up... it records faster (like, when we type, it types very faster)
10:40 Calinou youtube-dl
10:40 BREAKFAST-Kika in video
10:40 BREAKFAST-Kika dl ?
10:40 Calinou sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
10:40 Calinou to download youtube videos :P
10:40 BREAKFAST-Kika thats not to record
10:40 Calinou then youtube-dl <URL of video>
10:40 BREAKFAST-Kika ill use minitube.
10:40 Calinou and to record, ffmpeg
10:41 Calinou it's command line though
10:41 BREAKFAST-Kika go to my brother's channel
10:41 BREAKFAST-Kika and see
10:41 BREAKFAST-Kika how it been recorded
10:41 emerge-plus recordmydesktop?
10:41 Calinou might try gtk-recordmydesktop, but it's nott really for games
10:41 emerge-plus :p
10:41 BREAKFAST-Kika youtube.com/joaoadriano3
10:41 BREAKFAST-Kika calinou
10:41 BREAKFAST-Kika search for: como criar uma casa da tribo
10:42 BREAKFAST-Kika that video was made in linux
10:42 BREAKFAST-Kika with a fucking stupid recorder
10:42 BREAKFAST-Kika in ubuntu 11.10
10:42 Calinou nope.avi
10:43 Zeg9 joined #minetest
10:43 Zeg9 Hello!
10:43 Calinou hi
10:44 BREAKFAST-Kika Zeg9, i said you Welcome Back, and you left.
10:44 Calinou that's called a ragequit
10:44 BREAKFAST-Kika yea
10:46 BREAKFAST-Kika youtube.com/DiogoFuckingSena
10:46 markveidemanis Zeg9
10:46 BREAKFAST-Kika i guess is not diogo
10:46 BREAKFAST-Kika my cousin's friend
10:46 BREAKFAST-Kika try
10:46 Zeg9 It isn't ragequit, I had to leave >.<
10:46 BREAKFAST-Kika there you will have a parody of one direction
10:47 BREAKFAST-Kika Zeg9 , so, why you're here?
10:47 BREAKFAST-Kika so, leave!
10:47 markveidemanis calinou, i see the chat in the console:)
10:47 Zeg9 ...
10:47 markveidemanis don't dig trees!
10:47 BREAKFAST-Kika markveidemanis, i know that
10:48 BREAKFAST-Kika dIg?
10:48 BREAKFAST-Kika o_o'
10:48 BREAKFAST-Kika dig = stone, dirt, minerals.
10:49 BREAKFAST-Kika cut = trees, leaves, wood.
10:49 BREAKFAST-Kika or wools
10:52 Calinou cut dirt/stone, dig trees and wood!
10:53 KikaRz lol
10:55 KikaRz what you doing guys?
10:55 Calinou http://ompldr.org/vZ21rdA/Capture%20d'%C3%A9cran%20-%2009122012%20-%2011:53:39.png
10:55 Calinou this
10:55 devlab what are the sounds of the mobs?
10:56 KikaRz sry
10:56 KikaRz cant see prints
10:56 KikaRz updates installing
10:58 Zeg9 Calinou, you are having great fun as I see
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10:59 KikaRz Welcome Back Jordach.
10:59 Zeg9 Going to play supertux xD
10:59 KikaRz stupid Zeg9.
10:59 KikaRz that's my game, not yours
10:59 Zeg9 I knew it before you.
10:59 Zeg9 or?
10:59 Zeg9 Nvm
10:59 KikaRz i know it since 2001
10:59 KikaRz i was 10.
11:00 KikaRz my brother was seeing linux infos
11:00 KikaRz for that year
11:00 KikaRz or nexts...
11:00 KikaRz and then, discovered that project
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11:02 KikaRz Welcome Back iqualfragile
11:04 iqualfragile Good morning KikaRz
11:05 KikaRz Thx
11:05 KikaRz updating my computer since 9 AM (portugal)
11:05 KikaRz 2 hours .
11:05 iqualfragile windows?
11:05 rsiska joined #minetest
11:05 KikaRz linux.
11:05 iqualfragile or just real crappy internet
11:05 iqualfragile wich distro?
11:05 KikaRz ubuntu 12.04.1
11:06 KikaRz Xubuntu
11:06 iqualfragile hmm… switch to debian& get debdelta
11:06 KikaRz I can't.
11:06 KikaRz an d not my net
11:06 KikaRz its my pc
11:06 KikaRz iqualfragile, saying the same as yesterday:
11:06 iqualfragile wow… thats evil
11:06 KikaRz No CD/DVD device.
11:06 iqualfragile no problem?
11:07 KikaRz yes it has
11:07 iqualfragile why?
11:08 KikaRz NO CD/DVD DEVICE
11:08 KikaRz its broken
11:10 Calinou KikaRz: the first update takes a lot of time ;) that's normal
11:11 KikaRz Registering myself in Zimagez
11:11 KikaRz to get prints faster
11:11 KikaRz for you
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11:12 Zeg9 The "first update" is also from 12.04 to 12.10, isn't it ?
11:12 Calinou he is not upgrading, he is staying with the LTS
11:12 Zeg9 I hope
11:12 KikaRz no
11:12 KikaRz Calinou, remembering, IM A GIRL
11:13 KikaRz NOT A BOY
11:13 * Calinou should use "they" more often
11:13 Matsetes Hi guys
11:13 Zeg9 Hello
11:13 devlab sup?
11:13 KikaRz Hi Matsetes, welcome back.
11:14 Matsetes KikaRz: Thx!!
11:14 Matsetes I'm updating minetest, which are the news?
11:15 KikaRz gmail is getting worst
11:15 KikaRz nothing matsetes
11:15 KikaRz otherwise that you're updating to 0.4.4
11:15 KikaRz http://minetest.net/news
11:15 Zeg9 google* is getting worse
11:16 Zeg9 Brb, lunch :)
11:16 KikaRz not google
11:16 KikaRz but yes gmail
11:17 Matsetes KikaRz: 404 page not found =S
11:18 KikaRz now, i can upgrade to 12.10
11:18 KikaRz but i wont.
11:19 KikaRz guys
11:19 KikaRz gotta reboot pc
11:19 KikaRz see ya in 1 minute
11:25 * PilzAdam uses YouTube feather because the new design sucks
11:28 Jordach STOP THE PRESSES
11:28 Jordach PilzAdam you said you would never use a google product..whats a youtube?
11:29 PilzAdam I said i would never use google
11:29 PilzAdam not Google products
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11:30 KikaRz Hi there :)
11:30 KikaRz Back.
11:30 KikaRz now going to compile minetest :)
11:31 KikaRz hey, if i dont put -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1, or 0, it dont cares?
11:31 Calinou KikaRz: see my one line script
11:31 KikaRz Calinou, your is bugged.
11:31 KikaRz got a problem
11:31 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3837
11:31 moltenbot Calinou's link: One-line script: installing/compiling Minetest git, Debian/Ubuntu/Mint (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
11:31 KikaRz cmake is glitched
11:31 KikaRz make is bugged.
11:31 Calinou works for me
11:31 Calinou you forgot to install dependencies then
11:31 KikaRz not the dependencies
11:32 KikaRz the https://
11:32 PilzAdam Calinou, why always install dependencies?
11:32 KikaRz must be http:// or git://
11:32 Calinou no, https works
11:32 KikaRz Aristides got problem
11:32 KikaRz with that
11:32 Calinou well then I'll point to git protocol URLs
11:33 KikaRz hey
11:33 KikaRz at the end of compilation
11:33 KikaRz it runs automaticly the game
11:33 KikaRz ?
11:33 KikaRz git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git;cd minetest/games;git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game.git;cd ..;cmake .;cd src;make -j2;cd ../bin;./minetest;echo;echo "You can run Minetest again by double-clicking \"minetest\" in the \"bin\" folder of the \"minetest\" folder in your home folder."
11:33 KikaRz can i use just that? i just got the dependencies
11:33 Calinou KikaRz: try my script now
11:33 Calinou it does run the game, yes
11:33 Calinou if you already got the deps, yes it will work
11:33 KikaRz It saves the bin folder?
11:34 KikaRz it didnt, last time i ran it
11:34 Calinou i've changed the URLs to point to the git protocol URLs
11:34 Calinou ~/minetest/bin > has the minetest binary
11:34 Calinou (note that the script builds a non-run-in-place version, user data does to ~/.minetest)
11:34 KikaRz ill just use that: git clone git://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git;cd minetest/games;git clone git://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game.git;cd ..;cmake .;cd src;make -j2;cd ../bin;./minetest;echo;echo "You can run Minetest again by double-clicking \"minetest\" in the \"bin\" folder of the \"minetest\" folder in your home folder."
11:34 Calinou should work if you have the deps
11:35 KikaRz i should use Nautilus or Tunar?
11:35 KikaRz *Thunar
11:36 KikaRz today its fasty. (the downloading and the compiling
11:37 Calinou thunar
11:37 Calinou nautilus is for gnome, thunar is for xfce
11:37 Calinou also thunar is better :3
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11:38 KikaRz calinou
11:39 KikaRz can i use "make"  only?
11:39 KikaRz without -j2
11:39 KikaRz i got a pentium 4
11:42 Calinou yes, of course
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11:42 markveidemanis what site can i use to upload
11:42 Calinou i gtg, bye
11:42 Calinou ompldr.org
11:44 KikaRz markveidemanis, use ompldr.org, mediafire.com, rapidshare.com, uploaded.com
11:44 KikaRz what you want
11:44 markveidemanis omlpdr
11:44 markveidemanis http://ompldr.org/vZ21sYQ/MOD.zip
11:45 KikaRz compiling
11:45 markveidemanis u will need to run modpack once to generate cache to reduce lagg connecting to my server
11:45 Jordach markveidemanis - does not work like that
11:45 KikaRz yep
11:46 markveidemanis does
11:46 KikaRz markveidemanis, we are at more time in the minetest.
11:46 Jordach because thats your local world
11:46 KikaRz you dont know how its done.
11:46 KikaRz 21 % compiled
11:47 markveidemanis who is a programmer and is familiar with mutimode
11:47 Jordach your being too broad
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11:48 Jordach no one here uses multi-node bar mauvebic
11:48 markveidemanis can someone come on my server and explain my mods to me:)
11:48 Jordach yes we're programmers, but it depends on language.
11:48 Jordach br#
11:48 Jordach brb
11:48 KikaRz yes.
11:48 KikaRz like me
11:48 KikaRz im not programmer in lua
11:48 KikaRz but ill be
11:49 KikaRz im just in python,
11:49 KikaRz HTML
11:49 KikaRz PHP
11:49 KikaRz C++
11:49 KikaRz C+
11:49 KikaRz C#
11:49 KikaRz Yay! My vps is activated! *__*
11:49 PilzAdam HTML is *not* a programming language
11:49 KikaRz yes it is.
11:49 KikaRz but not really the way you think
11:49 PilzAdam its a markup language
11:50 KikaRz pc being used 100%
11:50 KikaRz reason: compiling
11:51 Jordach like LatEX
11:52 KikaRz so, javascript is what?
11:52 KikaRz .
11:52 PilzAdam a programming language?
11:52 KikaRz no
11:52 KikaRz its a language used in programming, web
11:52 KikaRz and etc
11:53 Jordach LatEX is markup
11:53 jin_xi how do i shot web
11:53 Jordach (similar to .odf)
11:53 PilzAdam KikaRz, that wasnt a question
11:53 KikaRz 40%.
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11:54 KikaRz Welcome q66
11:57 KikaRz 50 %
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12:06 KikaRz 70 %
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12:09 john_minetest i deleted the internet :(
12:10 john_minetest phew... found a backup. 5000 Petabyte...
12:10 KikaRz minetest built.
12:10 KikaRz minetestserver left.
12:11 Zeg9 john_minetest, you look bored
12:12 markveidemanis_ joined #minetest
12:12 john_minetest yeah...
12:12 Zeg9 I'll maybe work on PP
12:12 john_minetest cool
12:15 KikaRz 80
12:16 * Jordach just had a wtf moment
12:16 Jordach PilzAdam - can i ask you for something?
12:17 KikaRz hey
12:17 KikaRz if i connect my pc to my television
12:17 KikaRz itll work?
12:17 PilzAdam Jordach, sure
12:17 KikaRz linux will support'
12:17 KikaRz ?
12:17 neko259 Hi everybody. I have a strange problem with the server. At some point it starts to consume more and more RAM (from the usual 80M he got to 17G). I try to look at the trace (started server with --trace)
12:17 neko259 and have just lines like: 4 <- 83.149.9.11:50225, size=63, data=63, data= 4F45 7403 0002 0001 0010 1972 6F61 6E31 316D 0000...
12:18 KikaRz 90%
12:18 KikaRz markveidemanis, markveidemanis_, its 90%
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12:19 KikaRz hi iqualfragile
12:20 KikaRz VanessaE, sweetie, are you there?
12:21 KikaRz 100 :D
12:22 Matsetes joined #minetest
12:23 Matsetes I'm back
12:24 KikaRz Guys
12:24 KikaRz got a problem
12:24 KikaRz my textures are bugged
12:24 KikaRz and sounds
12:25 KikaRz http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/capturadeecr-09-12-2012-122358.php
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12:26 KikaRz GUYS
12:27 KikaRz GOT A PROBLEM HERE
12:27 KikaRz http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadeecr-09-12-2012-122358.php
12:27 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Captura de ecr
12:28 KikaRz someone can help me
12:28 KikaRz ?
12:28 KikaRz iqualfragile ?
12:28 KikaRz PilzAdam ?
12:28 iqualfragile hi
12:28 KikaRz texture is bugged
12:28 KikaRz yesterday wasnt
12:28 iqualfragile what did you change?
12:28 KikaRz nothing
12:28 KikaRz i finished compiling now
12:29 KikaRz maybe its the cache folder
12:29 KikaRz since yesterday i've been playing...
12:29 KikaRz then my pc crashed.
12:29 iqualfragile interesting… looks flipped
12:29 KikaRz yea
12:30 KikaRz In the console...
12:30 KikaRz 12:23:27: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer digs default:tree at (-4,9,11)
12:30 KikaRz node_dig
12:30 KikaRz 12:23:27: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer digs default:tree at (-4,8,11)
12:30 KikaRz Unsupported texture format
12:30 KikaRz node_dig
12:30 KikaRz 12:23:31: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer digs default:tree at (-4,10,11)
12:30 KikaRz node_dig
12:30 KikaRz 12:23:33: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer digs default:tree at (-4,11,11)
12:30 KikaRz shall i remove cache folder?
12:30 KikaRz and run game agian?
12:30 KikaRz *again
12:31 iqualfragile try it
12:31 KikaRz restarting game...
12:31 KikaRz remembering, this is my first time using linux *-*
12:31 KikaRz kidding,
12:32 KikaRz just first time playing minetest with linux
12:32 Matsetes KikaRz: new to Linux?
12:32 KikaRz still flipped.
12:32 KikaRz yes matsetes
12:33 Matsetes KikaRz: Wow! =)
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12:36 KikaRz In linux, its faster than windows
12:36 KikaRz *_*
12:37 KikaRz windows worlds are compatible with linux, right?
12:37 Zeg9 Why wouldn't they?
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12:38 KikaRz markveidemanis
12:38 KikaRz can i enter now?
12:38 markveidemanis im still choosing mods
12:38 iqualfragile joined #minetest
12:39 markveidemanis ok my server is up to everyone who wants
12:39 KikaRz wait
12:39 markveidemanis ip: my name>whois
12:39 KikaRz port?
12:39 markveidemanis 30000
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12:43 KikaRz wait
12:43 KikaRz finishing my house
12:43 KikaRz hey, the slabs are in default game?
12:43 KikaRz oh, they are
12:43 markveidemanis go on my server, have to go seen
12:43 markveidemanis #soon
12:44 Zeg9 mark, It keeps on "connecting to server"
12:44 Zeg9 Forget this
12:44 Zeg9 My fault
12:44 Jordach Jeija, can i tell you something quickly?
12:44 KikaRz guys, whats the slab id?
12:44 KikaRz default: ??
12:44 KikaRz wood slab
12:46 KikaRz Jordach
12:47 Zeg9 stairs:slab_wood
12:47 Zeg9 or stairs:wood_slab
12:47 KikaRz not mods.
12:47 Zeg9 I never remember
12:47 Zeg9 stairs is in default mods
12:48 KikaRz and pickaxe?
12:49 Zeg9 default:pick_wood
12:49 markveidemanis _____
12:49 markveidemanis _
12:52 KikaRz uff
12:52 KikaRz water still dont destroys torches
12:52 KikaRz what a luck
12:53 KikaRz if it were destroying, my map were ruined
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12:59 KikaRz finished my first house in linux
12:59 KikaRz 1 PM!
13:00 cae2000 hello
13:00 KikaRz hi
13:00 KikaRz Zeg9
13:00 KikaRz I have 2 partitions (windows and linux)
13:00 KikaRz how i get into the windows files by linux?=
13:00 cae2000 no idea
13:01 cae2000 but you can accses the linux files from windows
13:02 KikaRz ...
13:02 KikaRz no i cant.
13:02 cae2000 No?
13:02 KikaRz nope
13:02 cae2000 really?
13:02 cae2000 twow
13:02 cae2000 w*wow
13:03 KikaRz http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/01/02/how-to-access-microsoft-windows-files-and-folders-from-linux/
13:03 moltenbot KikaRz's link:   How to access Microsoft Windows files and folders from Linux
13:03 cae2000 *wow work keybord!
13:03 Zeg9 Can you send me a screenshot of your file manager, KikaRz?
13:04 KikaRz http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadeecr-09-12-2012-130423.php
13:04 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Captura de ecr
13:05 Zeg9 Hmm, yeah, it doesn't show
13:05 Zeg9 Try installing ntfs3g
13:05 KikaRz its already installed
13:05 KikaRz i guess
13:05 Zeg9 ls /dev/sd*
13:06 KikaRz joao@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/sd*
13:06 KikaRz /dev/sda  /dev/sda1
13:06 Zeg9 Weird...
13:06 Zeg9 Maybe you can't access it because you installed through wubi
13:07 KikaRz yes i can
13:07 cae2000 i have two computers, one with windows (one im using now) and one with ubuntu linux. so i dont know.
13:07 KikaRz last time i instaled it
13:07 KikaRz i installed it with wub
13:07 KikaRz and worked
13:08 Zeg9 cat /etc/fstab
13:09 KikaRz let me try this
13:09 KikaRz http://www.wikihow.com/Access-Windows-Files-in-Ubuntu
13:09 moltenbot KikaRz's link: How to Access Windows Files in Ubuntu: 7 steps - wikiHow
13:09 cae2000 sda & sda1 are partion  names. one will be win and the other will be linux
13:09 KikaRz joao@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/fstab
13:09 KikaRz # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM
13:10 KikaRz ./host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disknoneswapsw00
13:10 KikaRz without .
13:10 Zeg9 Oh wait
13:10 Zeg9 Can you try:
13:10 Zeg9 ls /dev/hd*
13:10 KikaRz we need to mound it
13:10 KikaRz joao@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/hd*
13:10 KikaRz ls: cannot access /dev/hd*: No such file or directory
13:10 Zeg9 Ok, then I don't see
13:10 Zeg9 Try gparted, as written in your link
13:11 cae2000 i like gparted
13:11 cae2000 its cool
13:11 KikaRz cant install by apt-get
13:11 cae2000 you can make your own partions
13:12 cae2000 so maby you can read them
13:12 KikaRz Synaptic...
13:12 KikaRz Love you...
13:12 KikaRz how much time ago...
13:12 cae2000 ?
13:13 KikaRz Synaptic package manager
13:13 cae2000 ok
13:13 KikaRz stupid ubuntu software center
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13:13 cae2000 the whol "love you..."thing...
13:14 cae2000 hi ruben
13:14 KikaRz Welcome back rubenwardy
13:15 cae2000 ubuntu software center uses atp-get anyway.
13:15 KikaRz lol
13:15 KikaRz ill install super tux too :)
13:15 cae2000 thats how it installs
13:15 cae2000 :)
13:16 cae2000 how many people are on?
13:17 cae2000 i dissaper in a poof of smoke!
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13:19 KikaRz Welcome Back rubenwardy
13:21 Jordach hello rubenwardy
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13:31 KikaRz whats the shortcut to terminal?
13:31 * VanessaE wanders in sleepily.
13:31 VanessaE hi
13:32 KikaRz WHATS THE SHORTCUT TO TERMINAL? NEED TO KILL MOZILAL FIREFOX!
13:32 VanessaE it's in the Accessories menu
13:32 Jordach hey VanessaE, mauvebic
13:32 VanessaE I don't know the shortcut (I reprogrammed it)
13:33 VanessaE KikaRz: you could try the command entry window - Alt-F2
13:33 VanessaE "killall firefox"
13:33 mauvebic hey jordach
13:33 KikaRz ...
13:33 KikaRz not necessary
13:34 KikaRz i killed firefox, synaptic and much more with Alt + F4 by error.
13:34 KikaRz ,,,
13:35 KikaRz VanessaE
13:35 KikaRz Minetest is compiled
13:35 PilzAdam hi VanessaE
13:35 KikaRz successfully.
13:35 VanessaE hey PilzAdam.
13:35 * Jordach grabs a bag of MONSTER mUNCH
13:35 KikaRz whats the shortcut to change of screen?
13:35 KikaRz the top dont works
13:35 VanessaE change of screen?
13:35 KikaRz fuck this speakers
13:36 KikaRz they are making interference with ghosts.
13:36 KikaRz yes
13:36 KikaRz Screen 1 - 2 - 3 - 4
13:36 KikaRz that multi screen
13:36 KikaRz in linux
13:36 VanessaE oh
13:36 VanessaE roll the mouse wheel over your wallpaper
13:36 VanessaE I don't know the shortcut - I don't use multiple desktops, just two separate monitors.
13:37 KikaRz cant
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13:37 KikaRz i cant access anything
13:37 KikaRz Welcome back (for the 3rd time) rubenwardy
13:37 VanessaE I'm afraid I don't understand
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13:39 KikaRz my pc is fucking stupid
13:39 KikaRz VanessaE, no problem, its solved.
13:40 KikaRz so, what you doing?
13:40 VanessaE catching up on the forums
13:42 KikaRz Ok
13:42 KikaRz i was compiling the minetest
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13:43 rubenwardy oin minetst
13:43 rubenwardy j
13:43 KikaRz and... it works perfectly
13:43 KikaRz just 1 problem
13:43 KikaRz rubenwardy, you were sleeping alive.
13:43 KikaRz VanessaE, you want to know the problem and solve it?
13:43 VanessaE ?
13:44 KikaRz its the textures
13:44 KikaRz in the inventory
13:44 VanessaE not enough video memory.
13:45 VanessaE or a bad driver.
13:45 VanessaE those are the usual causes of that bug.
13:45 VanessaE lots of people have had that happen.
13:45 KikaRz when we pickup something or break wood
13:45 KikaRz it appears that the texture is at the reverse
13:45 KikaRz wait , going to show you a print
13:46 KikaRz http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadeecr-09-12-2012-122358.php
13:46 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Captura de ecr
13:46 KikaRz look to the bar of inventory
13:47 KikaRz are you seeing VanessaE?
13:47 VanessaE I see it
13:47 VanessaE I do not know the solution
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13:47 KikaRz its not the cache
13:47 VanessaE all textures do that, or only just some?
13:47 KikaRz idk
13:48 KikaRz ah
13:48 KikaRz just some
13:48 KikaRz like Wood, tree, stone, cobble...
13:48 KikaRz many nodes...
13:48 KikaRz but not leaves,
13:48 * VanessaE shrugs.. I don't know why it's doing that.
13:48 KikaRz im trying to do this
13:48 KikaRz http://www.wikihow.com/Access-Windows-Files-in-Ubuntu
13:48 moltenbot KikaRz's link: How to Access Windows Files in Ubuntu: 7 steps - wikiHow
13:49 KikaRz to get there my world
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13:49 VanessaE PilzAdam: why not push sdzen's fork of player_textures to master? it's very useful on servers, if a bit manual.
13:50 VanessaE KikaRz: your world file is not the problem - it's most likely your video driver, especially if you're using something like nouveau or VESA or so.
13:50 VanessaE that said, the engine does need to be fixed to handle these various corner cases far better
13:51 KikaRz not the world file.
13:51 KikaRz -.-
13:51 KikaRz its to get my world
13:51 KikaRz to play in 0.4.4 linux
13:51 KikaRz ...
13:51 VanessaE oh I see what you meant.
13:51 KikaRz i want to copy my world file to linux
13:51 VanessaE well Ubuntu should have mounted your windows drive and put it on the desktop
13:51 KikaRz then, ill play with it
13:51 VanessaE it normally does that now
13:51 KikaRz nope
13:51 KikaRz not happening
13:52 VanessaE I dunno then - I've not used windows since the win95 days
13:52 KikaRz why i cant find Partition editor in System (menu) ?
13:52 VanessaE because you installed via Wubi I guess.  there are no partitions to edit, and that's not how you access win files anyway
13:53 KikaRz no
13:53 KikaRz not that
13:54 KikaRz Well done!
13:54 KikaRz I know executing programs by terminal
13:54 KikaRz xd
13:54 VanessaE having a machine infected with windows is bad for your health :-)
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13:56 Jordach bullshit
13:56 Jordach VanessaE - i use windows
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13:56 VanessaE <Abe> He uses Windows!?  The poor schmuck...
13:56 VanessaE ;-)
13:57 KikaRz stupid Abe.
13:57 VanessaE hohoho
13:57 Jordach go on, freedom is a false sense of mind
13:57 KikaRz VanessaE
13:57 KikaRz can i try minetest in your server? :P
13:58 Jordach we are not allowed to "DO AS WE" please
13:58 VanessaE <Abe> Way to get in my good graces there, Jordach :-)
13:58 VanessaE KikaRz: if you want, sure
13:58 * Jordach cant tell if its VanessaE or Abe
13:58 KikaRz vanessaE
13:58 KikaRz 24.181.193.82:30000 ?
13:58 VanessaE Jordach: I'm just relaying what he's saying
13:58 Jordach heh
13:59 VanessaE KikaRz: that's right
13:59 KikaRz VanessaE, that ip =?
13:59 KikaRz i removed the ip from your whois
14:00 VanessaE copied.
14:00 KikaRz conclusion:
14:00 KikaRz Media downloading is faster in Linux than Windows
14:01 VanessaE cool
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14:02 KikaRz lol
14:02 iqualfragile is it?
14:02 KikaRz anunakki, how i get a null host ?
14:02 KikaRz yep
14:02 iqualfragile media downloading is slow in general
14:02 iqualfragile it does not use the full bandwidth
14:03 VanessaE nope, definitely not
14:03 KikaRz VanessaE, i joined.
14:03 VanessaE UDP is not meant for such things
14:03 VanessaE KikaRz: I know, I see you
14:03 KikaRz Not that
14:03 KikaRz i joined in server
14:03 KikaRz already
14:03 KikaRz not just char there
14:03 VanessaE KikaRz: I know, I see you on the server
14:03 KikaRz i see you static
14:03 VanessaE from my end I can see you before you are actually "in"
14:04 KikaRz wait
14:04 KikaRz console downloading
14:04 KikaRz almost there
14:04 KikaRz 90%
14:04 KikaRz 95
14:05 KikaRz hi?
14:05 VanessaE hi
14:05 KikaRz my game is frozen
14:05 KikaRz can you teleport me to you?
14:05 VanessaE let it finish.
14:05 KikaRz /teleport KikaRz VanessaE
14:05 KikaRz its finished
14:05 VanessaE andI'm right next to you.
14:05 KikaRz OMG
14:05 KikaRz IM LAGGING
14:05 KikaRz go away from there and teleport me
14:06 KikaRz game down
14:06 * Jordach signs in like a boss
14:06 VanessaE teleported you to the spawn
14:06 KikaRz my game crashed
14:06 VanessaE yup, you just timed out just now
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14:07 KikaRz Welcome back NekoGloop
14:07 KikaRz I see that you have  an ipv8
14:07 VanessaE good morning neko.
14:07 KikaRz :P
14:07 VanessaE ipv6.
14:07 KikaRz or that
14:07 * Jordach is stuck at 50% downloaded.
14:08 Jordach VanessaE - haul your servers ass#
14:08 VanessaE sowwy
14:08 VanessaE maybe new media downloads
14:08 VanessaE I've been updating some mods
14:08 KikaRz entering
14:08 VanessaE ah there you are
14:08 devlab brb
14:08 NekoGloop I have an ipad
14:08 KikaRz i've an ifode.
14:08 KikaRz :P
14:09 NekoGloop Cant help that it automagically does ipv6
14:09 KikaRz search in google
14:09 NekoGloop Glogle doesnt help
14:09 VanessaE KikaRz: go over to the rollercoaster.
14:13 whirm1 Minetest should add swift support to download the media
14:14 Zeg9 VanessaE, can you put this skin for me ?
14:14 Zeg9 http://ompldr.org/vZ21ucA
14:15 whirm1 it uses UDP and is capable of using the full bandwidth without causing lag, it only uses the unused bandwith
14:15 whirm1 and it's p2p
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14:21 PilzAdam <VanessaE> PilzAdam: why not push sdzen's fork of player_textures to master? it's very useful on servers, if a bit manual. <- I have updated the forum post to mention both versions
14:21 VanessaE Zeg9: I will soon
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14:23 PilzAdam bbl
14:24 grondilu omg I'v actually managed to connect to a server.  That's cool, considering I have no advanced graphics card
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14:33 grondilu lol I'm in a very tall building and there is a cloud that goes through the walls
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14:35 Jordach WTF
14:35 Jordach There are FRAGMENTS OF GOOGLE CHROME RENDERINGS IN MINETEST.
14:39 NekoGloop ....?
14:41 Jordach NekoGloop - i freaked
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14:41 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/YQok6.png and http://i.imgur.com/4OUb5.png
14:41 Jordach note under the white brick.
14:41 Jordach thats from twitter
14:42 Jordach and parts of Planet Minecraft in there too
14:44 grondilu I'm stuck in water.  Ain't I supposed to go up if I press the space bar?
14:44 NekoGloop Yeah
14:44 NekoGloop But if you have <5fps you are lagging too much to do so
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14:46 NekoGloop And also hold the spacebar too
14:48 brobostigon turning fly on, might help.
14:48 NekoGloop How about a non cheat method?
14:49 Jordach bug report filed:  https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/347
14:49 moltenbot Jordach's link: GPU Memory Fragments. ? Issue #347 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
14:49 brobostigon NekoGloop: flying is not cheating, what is you fall down a casm, while digging a tunnel? you have no way out, but that.
14:50 NekoGloop Yes you do
14:50 NekoGloop Its called digging.
14:50 brobostigon its their for a reason, and i like it, :)
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14:51 NekoGloop Cheater.
14:51 brobostigon ohwell.
14:52 Jordach VanessaE - could look over minetest issue #347
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14:54 * VanessaE looks...
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14:59 Jordach VanessaE - notice the two screenshots.
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15:00 VanessaE weird...
15:00 VanessaE of course you know c55 will blame RBA, since that's his inventory mod :-)
15:01 KikaRz '-'
15:01 KikaRz lol
15:02 Jordach yeah. but this also happens in the default creative
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15:03 VanessaE you should make a note of that in the issue
15:03 KikaRz RealBadAngel, discovered one thing on your invetory.
15:04 KikaRz *inventory
15:04 KikaRz In the Miscallaneous, there is Set Day and Set Night.
15:04 KikaRz that could be used just for server owners
15:04 KikaRz not all players
15:04 VanessaE KikaRz: I already let him know about that
15:04 VanessaE those buttons should require settime priv, imho,
15:04 KikaRz yep
15:04 KikaRz not that only
15:05 KikaRz those buttons should make commands:
15:05 KikaRz /time 6000
15:05 KikaRz and  /time 12000 (i guess)
15:05 VanessaE no
15:05 VanessaE /time 6000 and /time 19000
15:05 KikaRz that.
15:06 rubenwardy I have a fork of a github repo, and i am using github on Ubuntu. How do I update changes made in the main repo, to my fork one
15:06 VanessaE at present I think they set 12000 and 0 or something
15:06 VanessaE rubenwardy: just git pull with the pull URL set to the original repo
15:06 VanessaE and git push with the push URL set to yours
15:06 rubenwardy $ git pull http://...../asinja.git   ?
15:07 VanessaE git remote set-url --push origin git@github.com/rubenwardy/blahblah.git
15:07 VanessaE then just git push
15:07 VanessaE a git pull will probably pull from the main repo anyway if you forked it via github's web interface
15:08 Jordach VanessaE posts / comment updated
15:08 VanessaE er, there should be a colon in that 'remote' line up there, you get the idea.
15:08 rubenwardy fatal: 'git@github.com/rubenwardy/minetest.net.git' does not appear to be a git repository
15:08 rubenwardy fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
15:09 VanessaE rubenwardy: sorry, 'git@github.com:rubenwardy/minetest.net.git'
15:09 VanessaE with a colon
15:09 VanessaE or just copy&paste it from your github page :-)
15:09 rubenwardy Permission denied (publickey).
15:09 rubenwardy fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
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15:12 Jordach PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/347
15:12 moltenbot Jordach's link: GPU Memory Fragments. ? Issue #347 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
15:15 OldCoder VanessaE, Your world is now mirrored as 30017 for the moment at minetest.org. We'll keep it unchanged for now so you can update your own copy. When you are ready I wish you to visit my copy and record your places using the Places mod.
15:16 VanessaE ok
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15:21 Jordach VanessaE - there is a happy ending for me
15:21 NekoGloop NakedFury: Ello
15:21 NakedFury hey
15:21 Jordach at least it did not head for the next few megs over
15:21 VanessaE Jordach: eh?
15:21 Jordach ;)
15:22 Jordach after twitter i went somewhere else
15:22 KikaRz VanessaE
15:22 KikaRz Until you restart server and back it up
15:22 KikaRz ill see mesecons
15:22 KikaRz and get some food
15:22 Jordach it "just missed" the vram area for it
15:22 VanessaE ok, it's back up.
15:24 VanessaE OldCoder: please re-download http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/My_World_server.zip
15:24 VanessaE KikaRz, jin_xi, Jordach (and others too),  the server's already back
15:25 Jordach i was not there
15:25 Jordach just honk the users that are playing it!!
15:25 KikaRz ok VanessaE
15:25 Jordach s/honk/ping
15:25 VanessaE so get back there and build something practical then :-)
15:25 KikaRz Jordach, you're not allowed to go to my place
15:25 Jordach like my 512k ram pack
15:25 KikaRz if you continue planting there some trees, you die.
15:25 Jordach i use microcontrollers and pistons
15:26 Jordach (which alternate a status of the mesecon wire)
15:27 KikaRz mesecon's site?
15:27 * Jordach also knows a turning machine using movestones
15:27 Jordach s/turning/turing
15:27 KikaRz oh, mesecons.tk
15:28 Zeg9 back, 'sup?
15:29 Jordach blarg
15:29 Jordach still doing it
15:29 Jeija http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4013 << I launched my second mesecons machine competition. There are some "speed challenges". The first one to send a map in ist the winner of them.
15:29 moltenbot Jeija's link: Mesecons machine competiton 2.0! (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
15:30 VanessaE Jeija: go to 24.181.193.82 port 30000 (with 0.4.4-release) and try the roller coaster :-)
15:30 VanessaE PilzAdam's carts in place - they're jittery and jumpy but functional.
15:30 VanessaE uses mesecons :-)
15:32 OldCoder VanessaE, proceeding
15:32 Jeija VanessaE: I joined, but transferring the media takes a while...
15:33 KikaRz Jeija
15:33 KikaRz if i send a blank map
15:33 KikaRz what you do?
15:33 VanessaE yeah it'll take a while.
15:33 KikaRz .-.
15:35 Jordach VanessaE
15:35 PilzAdam joined #minetest
15:35 Jordach come to me now
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15:37 OldCoder Calinou, hello
15:38 KikaRz VansesaE
15:38 KikaRz *VanessaE
15:38 KikaRz i wanted to:
15:39 KikaRz When pressing 4 right buttons,
15:39 KikaRz open a door
15:39 VanessaE use AND gates.
15:39 KikaRz how?
15:40 OldCoder VanessaE, world updated and converted again to LevelDB. This can be repeated as often as you like for a while. I see a large unknown block.
15:40 VanessaE where?
15:40 VanessaE screenshot?
15:41 OldCoder 90.5,11.5,184.1
15:41 OldCoder screenshot would take a few minutes. Perhaps visit?
15:41 VanessaE ok, on my way,
15:42 OldCoder Inside house
15:43 OldCoder Yes
15:43 VanessaE OldCoder:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3830
15:43 moltenbot VanessaE's link: [MOD] Computers (Decorative) [0.1.2] [computer] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
15:43 OldCoder VanessaE, the _game uses the ZIP you gave me last night
15:43 OldCoder Have you updated that ZIP ?
15:44 OldCoder Zeg9, this copy of the world is probably temporary
15:44 OldCoder VanessaE, as I am using your _game why isn't it working?
15:45 OldCoder VanessaE, he sees your 3D skin without 3D support yet
15:45 OldCoder It is... abstract
15:45 KikaRz GRR
15:45 KikaRz VanessaE
15:45 KikaRz my computer frozen
15:45 KikaRz with minetest opened
15:45 KikaRz i had to Alt + F4
15:45 VanessaE OldCoder: I added the computers mod afterward.
15:45 OldCoder O.K.
15:45 OldCoder Reupload _game ZIP ?
15:46 VanessaE just download the missing mod :-)
15:46 OldCoder Very busy but O.K.
15:46 OldCoder VanessaE, any chance you'll post a direct download link?
15:46 OldCoder nvm
15:47 VanessaE I'll re-upload the zip of the game if you want.
15:48 Zeg9 VanessaE, http://ompldr.org/vZ21wOQ
15:48 VanessaE oh weird.
15:48 KikaRz LOL
15:48 VanessaE oh I know why
15:48 KikaRz well, VanessaE
15:49 VanessaE oldcoder uses my copy of vanessa_game which has the player_textures mod in it, which has only 3d textures.
15:49 Zeg9 Must be that
15:50 VanessaE OldCoder: you will either need to update the server to 0.4.4 or delete the player_textures mod from that game.
15:50 VanessaE brb
15:50 KikaRz brb
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15:50 KikaRz back
15:50 KikaRz the scissors is here
15:52 OldCoder Zeg9, VanessaE, restarting world with computers added
15:53 KikaRz OK
15:53 OldCoder Will add computers to other worlds too I think
15:53 Zeg9 OldCoder, I think you should remove carts, or put the old version. I guess carts 2.0 will just crash the server
15:53 OldCoder Zeg9, from which world?
15:53 Zeg9 VanessaE's
15:53 KikaRz Vanessa, im joining
15:54 Zeg9 I vote yes for computers
15:54 KikaRz lol
15:54 OldCoder Zeg9, I am using the version that she is using; should they still go? Ask her
15:54 KikaRz OldCoder, you're not hoster of VanessaE server
15:54 KikaRz xd
15:54 OldCoder KikaRz, I am of this copy
15:54 KikaRz lol
15:54 Zeg9 No, she is using carts 2.0 and it only works with 0.4.4
15:54 OldCoder Zeg9, ah! But I will update to 0.4.4 soon
15:54 Zeg9 ...I just crashed the server by trying x)
15:54 OldCoder Zeg9, ah! But I will update to 0.4.4 soon. Possibly tomorrow or Tuesday
15:54 Zeg9 Alright
15:57 Jordach mesecon impossibility
15:57 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/eHWjw.png
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15:59 OldCoder computers will appear in most worlds on next rebuild
16:00 Calinou in ten days, add tablet/smartphone mod, then noone will use computers 8D
16:00 NakedFury are you gonna build from source too?
16:00 OldCoder NakedFury, who are you addressing?
16:00 NakedFury you
16:01 OldCoder NakedFury, I don't understand. How would I proceed without building from source?
16:01 NakedFury dont know, downloading someone elses already compiled version
16:01 Zeg9 There is no point to do that.
16:02 OldCoder NakedFury, would not work
16:02 OldCoder So yes will build from source
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16:03 OldCoder mrtux, wb
16:03 VanessaE NakedFury: he uses a moderately-patched version - code patches taken from various forks or something
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16:03 VanessaE especially LevelDB.  no pre-compiled copy will do for that.
16:03 NakedFury well I will be waiting for it
16:03 OldCoder VanessaE, even aside from that builds are required for servers for best results
16:11 babyface1031 OldCoder: are you updateing all worlds to 4.4
16:12 OldCoder babyface1031, If it works and is safe
16:12 OldCoder All existing stuff must continue to run
16:12 babyface1031 ok i just wanted to know so i know to download 4.4 or not :)
16:13 OldCoder babyface1031, Not yet
16:13 VanessaE babyface1031: ZERO POINT four point four :-)
16:13 OldCoder I will build new clients
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16:13 VanessaE babyface1031: the leading zero is not optional.
16:14 VanessaE </petpeeve>
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16:21 paxcoder yeah
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16:23 VanessaE hrm...there's no decent "stained glass" mod?  Not even just colored glass edges?
16:23 VanessaE guess I'm gonna have to do something about that..
16:25 markveidemanis VANESSAE
16:25 markveidemanis what mod do u use for skins
16:28 PilzAdam player_textures
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16:31 rubenwardy Doesnt the new 3d player thingy have it built in?
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16:33 PilzAdam rubenwardy, no; its a mod
16:33 VanessaE that one, in particular:  https://github.com/sdzen/player_textures
16:33 moltenbot VanessaE's link: sdzen/player_textures ? GitHub
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16:44 VanessaE PilzAdam: is it possible to make entities use the new 3d models system?
16:44 PilzAdam sure
16:44 VanessaE PilzAdam: maybe that would get around the iniability to pitch the,m
16:44 VanessaE them*
16:45 VanessaE since one can move legs/arms in such ways already
16:45 PilzAdam read lua-api.txt
16:45 VanessaE that was supposed to be a suggestion for you to use ;-)
16:46 PilzAdam well, i never used blender before
16:47 VanessaE me neither.
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16:51 NakedFury could nodes use the 3d model system? and when can we expect the ability to place individual or better textures for weird nodes?
16:51 PilzAdam nodes cant use the 3D models
16:52 VanessaE PilzAdam: ok, so I guess 3d-model-based carts with proper pitch and turn controls will be ready in a few minutes then? ;-)
16:53 * VanessaE waits...... :D
16:53 thexyz PilzAdam: why no?
16:54 PilzAdam what?
16:54 thexyz (20:51:26) PilzAdam: nodes cant use the 3D models
16:54 PilzAdam only entities can use it
16:55 NakedFury then we still need the ability to paint non cube-ish nodes how we want
16:56 thexyz weren't we talking about possibility?
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17:14 OldCoder mauvebic, wb
17:17 mauvebic hey oldcoder
17:18 OldCoder o/
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17:31 rubenwardy bye all
17:32 KikaRz VanessaE
17:32 KikaRz what happened to serve?
17:33 VanessaE what?  it seems fine to me
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17:59 KikaRz what F10 does in linux?
18:00 Zeg9 Console, but on debian based systems it often crashes
18:00 KikaRz ubuntu isnt based in debian...
18:01 KikaRz but crashed my game
18:01 KikaRz xd
18:01 Zeg9 ubuntu IS based on debian
18:01 KikaRz too bad.
18:01 KikaRz is?
18:01 KikaRz ti?
18:01 Zeg9 apt-get is from debian...
18:01 KikaRz *is it?
18:01 KikaRz ok
18:01 KikaRz how to install adobe flash ?
18:02 Zeg9 sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
18:03 Zeg9 you can use gnash instead if you want
18:03 KikaRz already tried it
18:03 PilzAdam KikaRz, i told you yesterday already
18:03 KikaRz gnash dont works
18:03 KikaRz on firefox
18:04 KikaRz [sudo] password for joao:
18:04 KikaRz E: Operação flashplugin-installer inválida
18:04 KikaRz Operation flashplugin-installer invalid
18:04 KikaRz or invalid operation
18:04 KikaRz idk
18:04 PilzAdam you forgot the install
18:05 PilzAdam its apt-get install flash...
18:05 KikaRz installing google chrome first.
18:06 thexyz you're on linux, use chromium
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18:06 KikaRz or chromium
18:07 Oebele hello
18:07 KikaRz i downloaded by google.com/chrome
18:07 KikaRz that works?
18:07 KikaRz Hi Oebele, Welcome
18:08 Zeg9 just use chromium
18:08 Zeg9 sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
18:08 Zeg9 But chrome will work too; if you really want their logo
18:08 Oebele Hi KikaRz, thanks
18:09 KikaRz Zeg9.
18:09 KikaRz dont care about that
18:09 Oebele I noticed the website claims that the debian package can be "Found in Apt.", but this is not entirely true, as this is only the case for wheezy(testing) and sid(unstable). Not for squeeze(stable)
18:09 NakedFury can chromium use google chrome apps?
18:09 Zeg9 It can use anything chrome can
18:10 KikaRz chromium is the source code of google chrome
18:10 NakedFury ok so if its the same whats the deal with chromium?
18:10 KikaRz nothing
18:10 NakedFury ohh so its just some stupid hate on google?
18:11 thexyz chrome is closed-source version of chromium
18:11 NakedFury arrr lets hate on all companies that create profit arrrr yeah arrr
18:12 NakedFury that is what I have seen from almost all linux users
18:12 NakedFury the image they have created in me
18:12 NakedFury god forbid some programmers make money from their code
18:12 NakedFury thats evil
18:13 NakedFury back in a bit
18:13 Calinou <KikaRz> installing google chrome first.
18:13 Calinou <thexyz> you're on linux, use chromium
18:13 Calinou chromium works in any os
18:13 Calinou chrome works on linux too
18:13 Calinou but chromium is open source, chrome is not
18:14 Calinou they both do the same things
18:17 Oebele so, where can I download minetest for debian?
18:17 brobostigon Oebele: it is within the debian repos.
18:19 markveidemanis Zeg9
18:21 Oebele brobostigon: not in squeeze, that's the whole issue. Anyway, I am installing it now via pinning
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18:22 KikaRz i did shit
18:22 KikaRz now i cant install / uninstall any package.
18:22 brobostigon Oebele: i use testing and sid, ah, ohwell.
18:22 KikaRz i forced my pc to shutdown
18:22 KikaRz now i have  to
18:22 KikaRz sudo apt-get install -f
18:23 RealBadAngel hi all
18:23 KikaRz Hi RealBadAngel
18:23 KikaRz XD
18:23 RealBadAngel whassup?
18:23 KikaRz i broken my linux
18:23 RealBadAngel better linux than a heart
18:23 RealBadAngel ;)
18:23 KikaRz o.o
18:24 PilzAdam hi RBA
18:24 KikaRz you prefer breaking linux than breaking your hearth
18:24 KikaRz you prefer breaking linux than breaking your heart* ?
18:24 RealBadAngel safer ;)
18:24 KikaRz now i dont have updates
18:24 Zeg9 Hello RealBadAngel
18:25 KikaRz RealBadAngel is in love.
18:25 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/unified_inventory.zip
18:26 KikaRz YAAAY
18:26 KikaRz UPDATES ARE BACK!
18:26 RealBadAngel its almost ready, need just some final touches, but it is functional
18:29 RealBadAngel only a few special instances of crafting recipes have to be done
18:29 RealBadAngel i mean group,:dye, basecolor
18:29 RealBadAngel and technic ones, alloy cookin and grinding
18:29 KikaRz in 1 week, ill be here playing, building, demolishing, etc!
18:30 KikaRz hey
18:30 KikaRz Real Bad Angel
18:30 RealBadAngel but UI side is ready
18:30 RealBadAngel what?
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18:31 RealBadAngel woof :P
18:31 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR6g0auvcJs
18:31 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: ?rockleetist ? Alice Human Sacrifice (English) ? Request - YouTube
18:32 NakedFury RealBadAngel is it still the black semi transparent game texture or can we finally give it one?
18:33 RealBadAngel NakedFury, you mean UI background?
18:33 NakedFury yes
18:33 RealBadAngel of course we can
18:33 RealBadAngel theres a topic in forums with 1st one brave enough
18:33 * VanessaE pokes RealBadAngel
18:33 NakedFury must have missed it
18:34 KikaRz make that:
18:34 NekoGloop VanessaE: nice shot with the forum post
18:34 VanessaE ?
18:34 RealBadAngel http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4001
18:34 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: [Mod] XGUI [0.1][xgui] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
18:35 NakedFury omg awesome
18:35 VanessaE oh.
18:35 RealBadAngel howdy VanessaE ?
18:35 VanessaE RBA knows my opinion of that image :-)
18:35 RealBadAngel yup :)
18:35 RealBadAngel but folks can do such things now
18:35 NakedFury opinion of how awesome it is to have proper inventory backgrounds?
18:35 RealBadAngel all is about the taste
18:36 RealBadAngel not about if it is possible
18:36 NakedFury hmm we still cant do the hotbars?
18:36 KikaRz if technic is installed, add buttons to invetory.
18:37 RealBadAngel im preparing also custom skin for UI
18:37 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_2163561105.png
18:37 VanessaE my new roller coaster :-)
18:37 VanessaE (also developed in part by PilzAdam)
18:38 NekoGloop VanessaE: this one: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2734
18:38 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: Go away (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
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18:38 VanessaE NekoGloop: oh.
18:39 RealBadAngel NakedFury, we will get to hotbars and HUD stuff
18:39 VanessaE NekoGloop: please don't blank your posts like that.
18:39 RealBadAngel one step at the time
18:40 NekoGloop VanessaE: nice trick, hiding your name from the "edit by"
18:40 VanessaE NekoGloop: actually that's a bug in the forums, it defaults to silent edit for mods.  I'd have preferred the opposite.
18:40 KikaRz my pc is lagging>!
18:40 VanessaE I tend to forget to uncheck it.
18:40 * Zeg9 gotta go, bye everyone
18:41 VanessaE ciao Zeg9
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18:42 KikaRz going to try supertux 2
18:42 KikaRz VanessaE
18:42 VanessaE ok
18:42 KikaRz soon ill go back to server
18:42 NekoGloop If i want my mod to disappear, then i have every right to let it do so.
18:42 NakedFury the forum isnt a democracy
18:42 VanessaE NekoGloop: sure, but you don't have the right to blank your posts.  c55 has already made that clear.
18:43 KikaRz MY SUPER TUX IS ALL BUGGED UP!
18:43 NekoGloop yes i do
18:43 NekoGloop my post. my property.
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18:43 NekoGloop i can destroy it if i want.
18:43 thexyz VanessaE: should we add this to rules?
18:43 KikaRz NekoGloop
18:43 VanessaE NekoGloop: your post, your property - within the forum's rules.  there is a reason c55 removed the "delete post" option from regular users.
18:43 KikaRz if you're talking about GloopOres, that mod sucks
18:44 Jordach which i fucking miss dearly
18:44 VanessaE thexyz: in my opinion yes, but that's up to c55, ultimately.
18:44 NekoGloop All my mods suck.
18:44 KikaRz can you list me up all mods?
18:44 VanessaE if they sucks, I wouldn't have gloopores on my server...
18:44 VanessaE sucked*
18:44 NekoGloop And there is a delete post button
18:45 KikaRz ok! so delete id
18:45 KikaRz *it
18:45 KikaRz :)
18:45 thexyz nope
18:45 NekoGloop just not on top posts.
18:45 KikaRz topics*
18:45 KikaRz the good of not having flash player
18:45 KikaRz is for Ads
18:45 KikaRz from google ads
18:45 KikaRz that suck
18:45 MiJyn just install an adblocker
18:45 VanessaE NekoGloop: it's not supposed to actually work anymore.  C55 explicitly disabled that function to keep regular users from deleting posts and screwing up conversations or causing potentially useful info to disappear.
18:46 VanessaE KikaRz: get AdBlockPlus.
18:46 KikaRz ... (chromium)
18:46 NekoGloop Well obviously he screwed that up
18:46 VanessaE KikaRz: there's an adblock plugin for that also.
18:46 MiJyn VanessaE, I don't see why we shouldn't be allowed to delete our own posts
18:47 MiJyn KikaRz, Chromium has the best adblocking addon
18:47 NakedFury the reason why there is no delete post button is because it will mess up any discussion in the threads
18:48 VanessaE NekoGloop: what was the license of that mod anyway?  WTFPL I assume?
18:49 NekoGloop it's called DE
18:49 NekoGloop "Doesnt Exist"
18:49 NakedFury it was WTFPL
18:49 NakedFury I have the mod
18:49 thexyz mods.minetest.ru has it too
18:50 VanessaE anyone got the version that had animated torches?
18:50 MiJyn NakedFury, but someone could still edit a post removing all contents
18:50 MiJyn And then it just clutters up the forum
18:51 NakedFury yeah they can do such dickish moves too
18:51 KikaRz VanessaE, your server still on?
18:51 VanessaE KikaRz: yes.
18:52 KikaRz can you help me with my buildings? *_*
18:52 thexyz MiJyn: and nothing can be done to prevent this
18:52 thexyz except disabling edits, which is not fine
18:53 VanessaE there.  Sorry NekoGloop.  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4014
18:53 moltenbot VanessaE's link: [Mod] Gloop Ores [1.1] [gloopores] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
18:54 NekoGloop you do know that simply by uttering my name in the post, no one is going to download it?
18:54 thexyz we should add this rule to mod releases "Forum information and guidelines"
18:54 VanessaE maybe, maybe not.  With my name attached to it as well, that might change.
18:55 VanessaE not to say I'm a big macher on the forums, but who knows.
18:55 thexyz NekoGloop: is this called "attention whore"? i'm not sure..
18:55 NekoGloop thexyz: no, its the opposite
18:55 NekoGloop i DONT want attention
18:55 thexyz lol
18:55 NakedFury anyone can help Revenantx on delta channel?
18:56 MiJyn thexyz, so if a user can do that, and (s)he wants to delete the post, (s)he would just do that, so why not let the user delete the post so that the forum won't be cluttered with posts like: "Nevermind this post"
18:56 thexyz that's why you're always like "i'm so awful, somebody, pity me"
18:57 NekoGloop if you all stopped bringing it back up, i would not talk about it
18:57 thexyz we can't stop talking about it until all mods are reuploaded
18:58 KikaRz VanessaE, can you help me with my buidling?
18:58 RealBadAngel if you could stop behavin as cheap cheerleader slapped in the ass it would be just great
18:58 VanessaE KikaRz: shortly
18:58 KikaRz going to server
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18:58 KikaRz when will someone make a converter
18:59 KikaRz of minecraft to minetest?
18:59 KikaRz map
18:59 RealBadAngel no1 ever will
18:59 KikaRz why?
18:59 RealBadAngel we are goin to be better
18:59 KikaRz Not for that.
19:00 VanessaE ok, toolsizes 1.0 and gloopblocks are now mirrored on my site
19:00 KikaRz to convert my world
19:00 KikaRz that incomplete one
19:00 VanessaE any others I missed?
19:00 NekoGloop yeah, like everything?
19:00 VanessaE like what?
19:00 NekoGloop well, the good mods anyway.
19:00 VanessaE I can only remember those three.
19:00 RealBadAngel the day will come that some1 will ask notch for possibility of conversion mt worlds
19:00 NekoGloop or, the ones that had some use to someone
19:01 RealBadAngel he will pass that on Jeb of course
19:01 KikaRz VanessaE
19:01 KikaRz can you send me your ip ?
19:01 RealBadAngel but anyways this day will come soon
19:01 VanessaE KikaRz: 24.181.193.82:30000  write it down :-)
19:02 KikaRz not for that
19:02 KikaRz its to save in fucking minetest.conf
19:03 VanessaE KikaRz and others, server going down for a moment.
19:03 KikaRz going to join just when will shutdown for a moment.
19:04 KikaRz ...
19:04 KikaRz thats too smart.
19:04 KikaRz so
19:04 KikaRz its on?
19:04 VanessaE ok, server is up.
19:05 VanessaE and now gloop blocks and toolsizes are in.
19:05 KikaRz joining
19:05 NekoGloop *crash*
19:05 NekoGloop you broke it
19:05 KikaRz more media to download?
19:05 VanessaE kika: a bit, yes.
19:05 RealBadAngel how would you know
19:05 KikaRz only for that fucking damn mod?
19:05 RealBadAngel youre playin mc
19:06 NekoGloop because toolsizes takes a lot.
19:06 KikaRz No im not RealBadAngel
19:06 KikaRz MC dont works here
19:06 NekoGloop and rba, I'm not playing anything right now.
19:06 RealBadAngel he does
19:06 RealBadAngel the kitty
19:06 VanessaE RealBadAngel: 20 pages of items in the creative inventory now :-)
19:07 RealBadAngel ha ha ha, laughed the quenn and went away to wash some socks :P
19:07 * marktraceur waves
19:07 NakedFury RealBadAngel to use that inventory on a server would it have to be creative or can it be used by admins or players with the proper permission?
19:08 RealBadAngel its universal
19:08 KikaRz i love that inventory because arent needed privs
19:08 KikaRz to set night or day
19:08 RealBadAngel if in creative buttons will add items
19:08 KikaRz xd
19:09 RealBadAngel if in surrival, they serve just for crafting guide
19:10 RealBadAngel mod checks for creative flag
19:10 PilzAdam VanessaE, move it: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55841
19:10 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: [Mod] Boats [boats] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
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19:11 NakedFury wished there was a way to use it in non creative servers
19:11 NekoGloop let's see. New versions are now CC-ND-BY-SA
19:12 Jordach okay, IM ON A BOAT PilzAdam
19:12 thexyz nd?
19:12 Jordach no derivs
19:12 RealBadAngel AND-BRG-A-BEER
19:12 RealBadAngel v3.0
19:12 mauvebic -BEER
19:12 RealBadAngel good license
19:12 thexyz i mean, we should forbid nd
19:12 NekoGloop thexyz: whY?
19:12 Jordach VanessaE - you make a great server op
19:13 VanessaE PilzAdam: ok, gimme a sec
19:13 thexyz and probably NC too
19:13 NekoGloop if i dont wanna let you steal my code, then you shouldnt be allowed to
19:13 VanessaE Jordach: how;'s that?
19:13 Jordach we always know whats happened
19:13 thexyz NekoGloop: well, not forbid, but don't allow such mods to be moved to Releases section
19:13 mauvebic that would only apply to the forums anyhow
19:13 RealBadAngel thexyz, have you helped Oldoder to merge levelDB?
19:13 NekoGloop thexyz: why?
19:13 RealBadAngel *Oldcoder
19:14 NekoGloop thexyz: because of the selfishness of theives like yourself?
19:14 thexyz RealBadAngel: well, I explained him everything
19:14 thexyz seems it worked fine for him
19:14 RealBadAngel good
19:14 RealBadAngel thx
19:14 thexyz NekoGloop: yes
19:14 thexyz because of that
19:14 thexyz definetly
19:14 VanessaE PilzAdam: what's it look like? screenshot?
19:14 NekoGloop well then i'm definitely releasing them in CC-ND-BY-SA
19:14 PilzAdam it currently looks ugly so no screenshot
19:14 VanessaE haha ok
19:15 thexyz NekoGloop: sure
19:15 VanessaE moved.
19:15 NakedFury thexyz what are the NC and NC?
19:15 VanessaE NakedFury: Non-commercial
19:15 thexyz will wait for next version with ND
19:15 NekoGloop (basically, that CC means you can share it, but only exactly as-is and with credit to me
19:15 VanessaE and No-Derivatives
19:15 PilzAdam VanessaE, also install it on your server
19:15 RealBadAngel thexyz, hopefully we will get back servers with 0.4.4 and db
19:15 VanessaE PilzAdam: ok, one sec.
19:15 NakedFury ohh thanks
19:15 RealBadAngel im lookin for it
19:15 thexyz NekoGloop: when are you planning to release it?
19:15 KikaRz Noooo
19:17 VanessaE PilzAdam: done.
19:17 NekoGloop or, make that CC-BY-NC-ND
19:17 KikaRz did you restarted it?
19:17 VanessaE yes.
19:17 KikaRz Nooo
19:17 NekoGloop You can't touch my code. So go the fuck away.
19:17 RealBadAngel personally i do like WTFPL
19:18 RealBadAngel and added credits
19:18 Jordach i prefer fuck off open sourceists
19:18 KikaRz waht the fuck public license ?
19:18 KikaRz XD
19:18 Jordach my code: my rules
19:18 NekoGloop my code = you cant have it
19:18 RealBadAngel not really
19:18 RealBadAngel our community, our experience, our rules
19:18 Jordach and VanessaE's server takes forever
19:19 Jordach >:(
19:19 NakedFury the only license to use should be my code use as you like with credits to me. no other
19:20 RealBadAngel some1 already said, that minetest forums is biggest source of wtfpl contens
19:20 RealBadAngel let us keep it this way
19:21 RealBadAngel it can only help game to grow
19:21 thexyz umm.. i guess i need to cast marktraceur right here
19:21 RealBadAngel yup
19:21 marktraceur thexyz: Hi, what's up?
19:22 RealBadAngel hes corporate guy
19:22 RealBadAngel hes very aware of licences
19:22 thexyz marktraceur: they don't like free licenses =(
19:23 marktraceur RealBadAngel: People who don't care to work on a proper licensing strategy are the bane of free culture. They make it so ultimately, when something is licensed improperly, *nobody* can use it because there's no licensing intent.
19:23 NekoGloop Mine will be lisenced properly
19:23 NekoGloop CC-BY-NC-ND
19:23 NekoGloop Perfectly proper lisence.
19:23 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Use WTFPL if you want, just make sure your files have license information in them.
19:23 marktraceur NekoGloop: It's better than "HEERS MAI MOD LOL WHAT A LICENSE"
19:24 RealBadAngel marktraceur, coders that are workin for the community pays no shit to the licences.
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19:24 VanessaE PilzAdam: up.
19:24 thexyz NekoGloop: you mean, you're going to release new mod?
19:24 marktraceur RealBadAngel: And as a result, the community pays no shit to them.
19:24 NekoGloop thexyz: perhaps
19:24 Jordach in fact, does anyone read the license>
19:24 NekoGloop I do
19:24 RealBadAngel they givin their abilitiels, time, will to help the community
19:25 NakedFury I do but never remember the initials or much about them after a few days
19:25 RealBadAngel and have bill gates and other morons deep in the ass
19:25 NekoGloop And my new lisence means that i can sue you for using my code.
19:25 NakedFury should we have a new rule for mods that they must have a License.txt file included?
19:26 RealBadAngel yes
19:26 RealBadAngel fuck the bill gates
19:26 marktraceur NakedFury: s/License.txt/COPYING/
19:26 * Jordach inserts hidden UTF-8 code to hide text
19:27 marktraceur NakedFury: Also, the general rule is to include a header at the top of each file to make it clear that the file is under whatever license
19:27 NakedFury I have seen that
19:27 RealBadAngel i also
19:27 RealBadAngel i deny this
19:28 NakedFury mod name:  by creator version number and usually after that license type
19:28 mauvebic If theres going to be a rule about licenses on the forum, the sooner its made clear the better, rather than asking people to chose and then saying " i dont like that one"
19:28 marktraceur mauvebic: We aren't talking about restricting the licenses you can use, just how you can use them.
19:28 RealBadAngel its about common sense
19:28 marktraceur mauvebic: There's a clear love of non-free things in this channel, your -NC-ND are safe.
19:28 mauvebic well the licenses themselves arent really up to interpretation :-/
19:28 NekoGloop if you wanna make my mods split open to the public to rot however they see fit, then I wont let you.
19:28 RealBadAngel if you took somethin say thanks
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19:29 RealBadAngel thats all
19:29 RealBadAngel that is our rule
19:29 marktraceur mauvebic: No, but the way you implement them is very open. If you say "NC-ND" but don't explicitly license each file that way, it can be confusing down the line if someone else contributed a file and didn't license it explicitly.
19:29 * marktraceur isn't a lawyer, so it was hard to come up with a good example
19:30 marktraceur RealBadAngel: And leave our software totally outside of any future packaging efforts by real people? Sounds pretty stupid to me.
19:30 RealBadAngel isnt a lawyer but talks as well trained one...
19:30 mauvebic my understanding of NC ND is pretty that its free and must be distrubuted as-is without charge
19:30 NekoGloop lawyers would have fun with minetest
19:30 marktraceur Debian, Fedora, etc., will all demand proper licensing before packaging this stuff.
19:31 RealBadAngel i got one demand
19:31 marktraceur RealBadAngel: I talk as a native English speaker, sorry if you confused that with a law school education
19:31 RealBadAngel all the lawyers, please get the fuck out
19:31 NekoGloop mauvebic: BY-NC-ND means you are credited, they cant make money with it, and they cant steal it
19:31 VanessaE uh oh.  server crash
19:31 NekoGloop VanessaE: haha.
19:32 PilzAdam I hope not boats mod
19:32 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Lawyers tend to look at forum rules telling them to GTFO as a perfect reason to not try to settle a case, and simply carry on suing you :)
19:32 RealBadAngel marktraceur, im not native speaker
19:32 mauvebic well im going strictly by what the creative commons site says about their own licenses lol
19:32 thexyz ND is awful
19:32 NekoGloop thexyz: ND is fair
19:32 VanessaE PilzAdam: no, that damn technic walking flashlight mod.
19:32 marktraceur NekoGloop: To you, maybe, but not to your users :)
19:32 RealBadAngel im just using nowadays latin
19:33 marktraceur Well, then salve, RealBadAngel
19:33 mauvebic well someone over at CC must have thought it was a fair free license
19:33 NekoGloop marktraceur: I say "fuck you" to theives of my code.
19:33 RealBadAngel lol
19:33 marktraceur NekoGloop: Don't release it, then. Don't masquerade as free culture, just compile the Lua and don't pretend you care
19:33 mauvebic its not like the all the GPLs are easy to comply with either
19:33 VanessaE RealBadAngel: sorry, but it's a damned mod ;-)
19:33 NekoGloop marktraceur: yeah, point me to a way to do that.
19:33 RealBadAngel you just said you dont care
19:33 VanessaE RealBadAngel: query...
19:34 marktraceur NekoGloop: luac
19:34 marktraceur NekoGloop: `man luac` should explain
19:34 thexyz you can decompile it though
19:35 thexyz as it's not "compiler"
19:35 NekoGloop thexyz: then i can sue you
19:35 marktraceur NekoGloop: I think the -s option will remove any useful information used for decompiling
19:35 NekoGloop marktraceur: windows.
19:35 thexyz NekoGloop: you can't if i don't distribute your mod
19:35 marktraceur Oh, right, that would make sense
19:35 mauvebic i dont see why someone should have to obfuscate their code to enforce the licensing, either you respect licensing or you dont
19:36 NekoGloop thexyz: -ND : you cant use the code
19:36 NekoGloop so what good is it?
19:36 marktraceur mauvebic: But why would you even bother sharing the code, if nobody can use it?
19:36 VanessaE RealBadAngel: msg.....
19:36 mauvebic you ignore one license, then everyone can ignore all of them
19:36 thexyz NekoGloop: i can't distribute derivative work
19:36 NekoGloop thexyz: decompiled is deriative: it is not precisely the same as it is distributed.
19:36 marktraceur NekoGloop: https://code.google.com/p/luaforwindows/ is your solution, includes luac
19:36 moltenbot marktraceur's link:
19:37 marktraceur moltenbot: That was SO HELPFUL.
19:37 mauvebic marktraceur i shared a mod for a game,
19:37 mauvebic youre confusing format with intention
19:37 NekoGloop marktraceur: ikr
19:37 marktraceur mauvebic: No, I mean
19:37 marktraceur mauvebic: You shared it under the Creative Commons banner
19:37 marktraceur mauvebic: But you clearly have no interest in letting those smelly free culture people anywhere near it
19:38 thexyz i'd better ask marktraceur, can I use modified code (licensed under ND) without distributing it?
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19:38 marktraceur mauvebic: It seems dishonest to me (not that I expect that to faze you)
19:38 marktraceur thexyz: 100% yes
19:38 mauvebic marktraceur not at all, id rather just chose who i share it with
19:38 Muadtralk hmmmm i see no issues if its not distributed
19:38 NekoGloop what good is it though?
19:38 thexyz NekoGloop: see?
19:38 NekoGloop you cant use my code, any part of it
19:39 marktraceur mauvebic: I see. Can you relicense it to me under GPLv3, please?
19:39 NekoGloop compiled or no.
19:39 NakedFury if you guys have no intention of sharing dont waste everyones time and post in the forums
19:39 mauvebic license wouldn't change
19:39 NekoGloop NakedFury: I wish to have my mod used. But not stolen.
19:39 marktraceur NekoGloop: Legally, but there are all those awful thieves out there. Better protect yourself preemptively.
19:39 thexyz why do you care?
19:40 NekoGloop thexyz: because it's my code
19:40 thexyz you already said you don't care at all
19:40 NekoGloop well then
19:40 NekoGloop I guess you just dont get my mod
19:40 NekoGloop Good day, sir.
19:40 marktraceur mauvebic: But then you could sue anybody who worked on the project, so....you're basically saying that you've chosen who you want to share it with, and surprise, it's only yourself!
19:41 Muadtralk can I not just replicate your mod from scratch slap some new textures on it give it a different name and bypass you entirely?
19:41 Muadtralk just wondering.
19:41 NekoGloop Muadtralk: nope
19:41 marktraceur Muadtralk: Only if you aren't inspired by his mod.
19:41 marktraceur Muadtralk: So don't look at it
19:41 mauvebic you cant sue anyone without there being damages so i dont get the question
19:41 marktraceur mauvebic: The damages would be infringement of copyright. Where have you been for the past 50 years?
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19:42 Muadtralk ive done several mods that ive never released because the day I am about to someone beats me to it :P
19:42 mauvebic besides, no one is going to work on my mods, thats the whole point
19:42 VanessaE PilzAdam: flowing water should push the boats until they reach the apparent speed of the water.
19:42 NekoGloop I say: fuck you, to all of the minetest community
19:43 Muadtralk ah then why do you not go and play in the #minecraft community?
19:43 Muadtralk you have an account yes?
19:44 thexyz NekoGloop: why?
19:44 thexyz mauvebic: that's because they're under -ND
19:44 Muadtralk he bought minecraft and its changed him
19:45 NekoGloop I removed my mods before that.
19:45 NekoGloop Simply because they were not wanted.
19:45 Muadtralk I know you did
19:45 Muadtralk :P
19:45 NekoGloop And now, everyone is taking them.
19:45 thexyz hm
19:45 mauvebic well yeah im perfectly capable of working on my own mods, are people that out of ideas?
19:45 thexyz so that's what's called "attention whoring", right?
19:46 Jordach Muadtralk - i find the alternative to be fajr
19:46 marktraceur mauvebic: You said you wanted to choose who you shared them with, implying that you wanted to, but your later statements made it clear that it wasn't the case :)
19:46 NakedFury we should be a sharing community built around this wonderful free game
19:46 NekoGloop thexyz: nope.
19:46 thexyz why no?
19:46 mauvebic marktraceur im willing to sublicense portions of the code under the same conditions, i didnt chose the license because i thought i'd have teammates lol
19:46 thexyz "nobody loves me, let's suicide"
19:46 thexyz same situation
19:46 NekoGloop NakedFury: perhaps, if they at least had their own little twist on it
19:46 marktraceur mauvebic: If you license the code under the same conditions, still nobody can work on it.
19:47 Muadtralk the reason i have them on my server is cause i dont delete anything and the person who suggested them actually didnt know you deleted them
19:47 mauvebic thats the point
19:47 Muadtralk that is why i use your mods nekogloop
19:47 mauvebic why would i sublicense my code if that person can circumvent the license?
19:47 NekoGloop Muadtralk: because you're too lazy to remove shit code/
19:47 NekoGloop thexyz: nope.
19:47 marktraceur mauvebic: So nobody will ever be able to work on it unless you decide to license it differently. Do you understand that?
19:47 Muadtralk yep!
19:47 thexyz NekoGloop: well, it seems like that for me
19:47 thexyz don't know about anybody else
19:47 Muadtralk thats why my survival server had indestructable pickaxes
19:47 mauvebic that was the goal
19:48 mauvebic if people cant enjoy playing them then dont download 'em, im pretty laidback about it
19:48 marktraceur Fair enough
19:48 marktraceur mauvebic: What are your mods?
19:49 mauvebic nbu,mbbase,hdb
19:49 mauvebic 2 old ones from the previous pack
19:49 marktraceur mauvebic: None of that made any sense to me
19:49 marktraceur mauvebic: What do they do?
19:49 Muadtralk isnt he the one with multinode and that cool madblocks stuff?
19:50 RealBadAngel marktraceur, mauvebic is respectable coder
19:50 mauvebic hdb: nodes, floors, wallpanels
19:50 RealBadAngel show your achievements
19:50 VanessaE Ok, what mod is it that turns lava+water into one of basalt, obsidian, or pumice (depending on which flows into which)?
19:50 mauvebic nbu: 2k lines (lots of gadgets and nodeboxes)
19:50 marktraceur RealBadAngel: A competent one, maybe, but I can't respect someone who licenses his code with an aim of hurting his users.
19:50 RealBadAngel dont ask him
19:50 Jordach VanessaE - dont keep adding in new mods
19:51 Jordach the server will break :P (100% cpu time)
19:51 RealBadAngel marktraceur, youre best at talkin bout licences
19:51 VanessaE 21286 vanessa   20   0  332m 178m 3704 S   18  4.5   5:40.73 minetestserver
19:51 RealBadAngel nothin more
19:51 VanessaE you sure? :-)
19:51 VanessaE the 18 = 18% CPU, which is about the average when the mapgen isn't causing it to lag.
19:51 OldCoder RealBadAngel, yes I will attempt a 0.4.4 build in the next few days
19:51 marktraceur RealBadAngel: That's why I'm employed as a software engineer at a top-ten website, then. Makes sense.
19:51 RealBadAngel i personally cannot remind any piece of code made by you
19:52 RealBadAngel so shut the fuck up
19:52 RealBadAngel we dont need licences
19:52 marktraceur RealBadAngel: So what you're saying is, I must be totally incompetent because you haven't seen any code I've written?
19:53 Muadtralk your the guy who wanted us to move everything to gitorious yes?
19:53 RealBadAngel yup, youre still talkin bout licences just
19:53 Muadtralk marktraceur?
19:53 RealBadAngel not doin anythin
19:53 RealBadAngel youre just full mouth
19:53 RealBadAngel corporate one
19:53 marktraceur Muadtralk: I was the guy who suggested it, yes.
19:54 NakedFury come one dont start mud slinging
19:54 OldCoder Corporate isn't mud
19:54 OldCoder It is about philosophies
19:54 RealBadAngel well
19:55 RealBadAngel to be honest i know hes skilfull
19:56 marktraceur RealBadAngel: *We*, as in, this entire channel, are discussing the benefits and problems of licenses.
19:56 RealBadAngel but pisses me off when starts talk bout licensing
19:56 marktraceur RealBadAngel: If someone was asking me about my code, I would be happy to reply. But nobody has.
19:56 OldCoder Pros and cons
19:56 * OldCoder scrolls up
19:56 marktraceur RealBadAngel: There are thousands of other channels, pick one.
19:56 hmmmm i'm not sure how enforcable CC-NC-ND is
19:57 PilzAdam VanessaE, repull; better handling on laggy server added
19:57 VanessaE for which, carts or boats?
19:57 OldCoder Is there any further dispute? Perhaps not
19:57 RealBadAngel marktraceur, i already said what im thinkin bout your code
19:57 PilzAdam VanessaE, boats
19:57 VanessaE ok
19:57 hmmmm i also don't like obsfucation in lua scripts
19:57 RealBadAngel and you know it
19:58 marktraceur OldCoder: mauvebic and I are PMing, but in general it seems quiet on this front now.
19:58 OldCoder All right
19:58 VanessaE PilzAdam: done.
19:58 RealBadAngel you just refused my vision of open source
19:58 hmmmm if it's not a rule already that .luac shouldn't be officially distributed by the minetest project, it should be
19:58 marktraceur hmmmm: Yes, but it's vital to the economy that we protect NekoGloop and mauvebic from malicious hackers who want to resell their code!!!!
19:58 hmmmm not only because it's ethical, but there's a security concern too.
19:59 hmmmm unethical rather
19:59 hmmmm in fact i feel quite strongly about this
19:59 hmmmm i'd like to bar pre-compiled Lua scripts from running in minetest if possible
19:59 marktraceur hmmmm: Yeah, but it won't happen
19:59 marktraceur hmmmm: We specifically relicensed to LGPL to allow it.
20:00 hmmmm ?? huh
20:00 RealBadAngel no, we are WTFPL by choice
20:00 hmmmm you mean the lua interpreter itself?
20:00 RealBadAngel at least most of us
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20:00 OldCoder john_minetest, Hi
20:00 marktraceur hmmmm: I was against that, too, but this community doesn't want its users to be protected, it just wants to make cool things and carry on.
20:00 john_minetest hi
20:00 RealBadAngel protected?
20:01 marktraceur hmmmm: No, Minetest is licensed under LGPL.
20:01 RealBadAngel what the fuck youre talkin about?
20:01 john_minetest :D new mesecon challenge is out!
20:01 RealBadAngel we do not care bout copiers
20:01 RealBadAngel we do grow
20:01 hmmmm indeed, and what of it?  i don't see how a LGPL license means you cannot add a technical restriction to not allow precompiled lua scripts
20:01 RealBadAngel each and every day
20:02 marktraceur hmmmm: Well, for one thing, I think freedom 0 is looking a bit infringed if you do that
20:02 hmmmm copiers need to attribute their derivative work to you if they do use CC, I don't really see how it's a problem..
20:02 RealBadAngel we do learn from others code
20:02 hmmmm wait, LGPL 3.0 or 2.0?
20:02 marktraceur hmmmm: For another, GPL would have restricted a non-free mod from running based on Minetest, as I understood it, but LGPL was a compromise.
20:02 RealBadAngel thats a point of Minetest being so great
20:02 marktraceur I think 2.1
20:03 RealBadAngel youre 22 marktraceur, im almost 40
20:03 OldCoder RealBadAngel, you are a kid :p
20:03 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Age is not directly proportional to intelligence.
20:04 RealBadAngel youre just ignonorant
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20:04 OldCoder RealBadAngel, seek consensus
20:04 RealBadAngel to the world of minetest
20:04 marktraceur RealBadAngel: If you have to resort to ad hominem attacks to invalidate my point, then you have no real base for your argument.
20:04 OldCoder What do the two of you have in common?
20:04 OldCoder Where do you disagree?
20:04 OldCoder That is what to look for
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20:04 OldCoder iqualfragile, Hello
20:05 RealBadAngel he wants to copyright all
20:05 iqualfragile moin oldcoder
20:05 hmmmm I am not really sure how the LGPL fits in with an application at all
20:05 RealBadAngel i deny copyright anything
20:05 hmmmm it certainly doesn't have the effect that was intended....
20:05 PilzAdam VanessaE, you just pinged out of your own server?!?
20:05 hmmmm it quite clearly says "Library" and gives a definition of that
20:05 VanessaE PilzAdam: I signed off.  From my perspective, I saw a boat driving around on its own and you were standing off at the end of the lake.
20:06 VanessaE 23900 vanessa   20   0  266m  72m 2648 S   11  1.8   1:11.10 minetestserver
20:06 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Not saying anything about copyright isn't denying copyright. You have to actively say that you release something into the public domain to deny copyright, and you haven't done that anywhere.
20:06 VanessaE 11% and RTT = 0.0.0 means the server is NOT LAGGING.
20:06 iqualfragile boat?
20:06 VanessaE iqualfragile: boat.
20:06 iqualfragile where i get boat?
20:06 hmmmm I have read terms #0 and #1
20:06 VanessaE https://github.com/PilzAdam/boats
20:06 moltenbot VanessaE's link: PilzAdam/boats ? GitHub
20:06 OldCoder VanessaE, what was it C55 was saying to you recently about the RTT code? I can play with that shortly
20:07 RealBadAngel im sayin it now in front of all
20:07 VanessaE OldCoder: nothing that should theoretically matter in this case.  With a RTT of flat out zero I should not see even the tiniest amount of lag.
20:07 RealBadAngel all my work is public
20:07 OldCoder Hmm?
20:07 RealBadAngel free to use
20:07 OldCoder VanessaE, are you saying I don't need to modify that code?
20:07 john_minetest anybody wants to do the mesecon challenge 2.0 with me?
20:07 hmmmm my understanding of the LGPL is this:  you have a GPL-ish library, but it can be used by closed-source software.  the library itself's source must be available though
20:07 VanessaE OldCoder: correct - it won't help anyway.
20:08 hmmmm any modifications to the LGPL'd library that is
20:08 OldCoder No?
20:08 OldCoder VanessaE, are you saying 0.4.4 has improved the issue?
20:08 VanessaE OldCoder: no, except that there are config tweaks related to those settings.
20:09 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Sadly I don't think the courts will think to look at the 2012-12-09 logs of #minetest. You need to include the unambiguous statement of "I release this into the public domain", possibly using CC-Zero, in all of your work.
20:09 VanessaE # Congestion control parameters
20:09 VanessaE # time in seconds, rate in ~500B packets
20:09 VanessaE #congestion_control_aim_rtt = 0.2
20:09 VanessaE #congestion_control_max_rate = 400
20:09 VanessaE #congestion_control_min_rate = 10
20:09 VanessaE in the server's minetest.conf
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20:10 RealBadAngel marktraceur, i have courts deep inside. HOWGH
20:10 marktraceur ?
20:10 marktraceur What?
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20:10 RealBadAngel they can kiss my ass
20:10 OldCoder VanessaE, where are these tweaks?
20:10 OldCoder Oh
20:10 OldCoder I see them ty
20:10 VanessaE OldCoder: as above :-)
20:11 marktraceur RealBadAngel: They will, after they take your money and any pants you have on at the time as punitive damages.
20:11 OldCoder VanessaE, should I add those now? Or do they need 0.4.4 ?
20:11 VanessaE OldCoder: they need 0.4.4 I think.
20:11 OldCoder k
20:11 VanessaE 15:09:40: ACTION[ServerThread]: CHAT: <KikaRz> tell VanessaE to enter the server
20:11 VanessaE I'm busy :-)
20:11 * marktraceur goes away for a while
20:11 RealBadAngel marktraceur, live a few years more on this world
20:11 marktraceur RealBadAngel: If you want to pretend that you live in a world where courts and laws don't matter, fine.
20:11 RealBadAngel not everythin here is like in the books
20:12 RealBadAngel youre just too young to understand
20:12 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Bite my firm 22-year-old ass, you unrealistic bastard.
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20:12 RealBadAngel im beatin you with almost 20 years
20:12 marktraceur Sorry, I missed an adjective
20:13 marktraceur Add in "ageist".
20:13 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I don't think he is showing you disrespect
20:13 RealBadAngel neither do i
20:13 OldCoder And remember... I am nearly as much older than you as you are than him!
20:13 RealBadAngel hes just too young
20:13 artur99 how to plant coffee, habanero, peas, tomato seeds?
20:13 OldCoder This is all fine. Look for where you agree and disagree
20:14 OldCoder artur99 has a question
20:14 OldCoder Perhaps we can focus on that
20:14 RealBadAngel i can agree to that
20:14 RealBadAngel and stop
20:14 marktraceur OldCoder: Actually, I'd like to make another request: Please mute RealBadAngel for his rampant and unapologetic discrimination based on age. Thanks for your consideration.
20:14 RealBadAngel haha again
20:14 OldCoder It is considered but appears to be unnecessary. Policy is to encourage you to /IGNORE him.
20:15 marktraceur So noted.
20:15 OldCoder But it may not be needed
20:15 OldCoder I feel
20:15 artur99 ???
20:15 OldCoder There may be common ground
20:15 * marktraceur invites others to /ignore RealBadAngel.
20:15 OldCoder artur99, wait
20:15 RealBadAngel sure
20:15 OldCoder marktraceur, RealBadAngel would either of you like to help artur99 ?
20:15 artur99 im waiting...
20:15 marktraceur artur99: IIRC farming+ requires you to till some dirt before planting
20:16 artur99 what is iirc?
20:16 marktraceur artur99: Craft a hoe, put it in your hand, and left-click some dirt. Then right-click the seeds into the ground.
20:16 OldCoder artur99, it means...
20:16 VanessaE If I Recall Correctly.
20:16 OldCoder If I Remember Correctly
20:16 OldCoder Both
20:16 artur99 aha
20:16 john_minetest “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.” ~Albert Einstein -- So age doesn't really matter. What are 2 points of IQ against infinity?
20:16 OldCoder Fair enough
20:17 artur99 and how long time is taking to grow?
20:17 artur99 *to grow up?
20:18 marktraceur artur99: It's random, so it could be any amount
20:18 marktraceur artur99: The more you plant, the faster it'll happen (on average) :)
20:18 artur99 aha
20:19 artur99 thanks
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20:40 thexyz sfan5: you here?
20:40 sfan5 yes
20:40 thexyz have you tried https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/344 ?
20:40 moltenbot thexyz's link: freetype2, .ttf fonts and basic unicode support by xyzz ? Pull Request #344 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
20:40 thexyz it should work fine
20:41 sfan5 but.. windows builds with freetype?
20:41 thexyz what's the question?
20:42 thexyz you can build it for windows with freetype support, but this is somewhat tricky
20:42 sfan5 if the buildbot isn't updated for freetype, how would you cross-compile win builds with freetype
20:43 thexyz i only build it using MSVC
20:43 thexyz just configure it manually
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20:45 sfan5 ok
20:45 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/voVFf.png
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21:00 PilzAdam gtg; bye
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21:01 Jordach im heading off to bed now
21:02 Jordach mauvebic, VanessaE, OldCoder, #minetest, have a good day
21:02 VanessaE night,...
21:02 VanessaE er..
21:03 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4019
21:03 moltenbot VanessaE's link: [Mod] Gloop Blocks [gloopblocks] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
21:03 VanessaE BAM!
21:04 OldCoder Bye Jordach
21:09 VanessaE ok, that's two down (gloopblocks, ores).  Tool sizes later after I get back from running a couple of errands.
21:15 Muadtralk you need toolsizes?
21:15 Muadtralk i have it
21:15 thexyz http://mods.minetest.ru/toolsizes/
21:15 moltenbot thexyz's link: Index of /toolsizes/
21:18 VanessaE bbl
21:18 VanessaE I have it, I just need to write up a good post for it.
21:18 VanessaE bbl for real now :-)
21:18 iqualfragile bbl?
21:19 thexyz iqualfragile: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-09#i_2702908
21:19 moltenbot thexyz's link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-09
21:20 iqualfragile cool
21:20 iqualfragile should add a slang-translate-function to my bot
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21:30 OldCoder babyface1031, Hi
21:34 babyface1031 hi OldCoder
21:34 OldCoder o/
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21:38 KikaRz VanessaE? Where did you gone? and everyone?
21:41 marktraceur VanessaE: Any suggestions re: Congestion settings?
21:50 * OldCoder will rest for a while
21:58 KikaRz VanessaE ?
21:58 KikaRz PilzAdam, i enhanced more the circuit (water)
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22:04 Octupus Hi
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22:10 KikaRz Hi octupus
22:10 KikaRz i made a boat race
22:11 Octupus Cool KikaRz
22:12 KikaRz exclusive in VanessaE's server.
22:16 babyface1031 hi Octupus
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22:17 Octupus Hi babyface1031
22:18 cisoun Is sdzen here ?
22:24 marktraceur cisoun: He's Muadtralk in here, just left
22:25 KikaRz bye guys
22:25 KikaRz kisses
22:25 KikaRz good night,
22:25 KikaRz tomorrow i have much to do.
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22:57 Octupus Is every1 dead?
22:57 MiJyn yes
22:57 MiJyn lol
23:01 babyface1031 it hs been very quite today
23:09 OldCoder Back
23:09 NakedFury welcome back
23:11 cy1 HOLY SHIT 3D AVATARS
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23:40 cisoun for french readers : http://linuxfr.org/news/minetest-des-cubes-et-des-hommes
23:40 moltenbot cisoun's link: Minetest : des cubes et des hommes - LinuxFr.org
23:41 * VanessaE is back.
23:46 Octupus Hi VanessaE
23:47 VanessaE hey hey
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