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00:00 khonkhortisan written.
00:00 khonkhortisan and to turn off anaglyph...
00:05 VanessaE brb
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00:07 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=LBHHj_QFXbA
00:07 moltenbot NekoGloops link: KanonxKanon - "The Doll House!" (w/ English lyrics) - YouTube
00:11 khonkhortisan a roller coaster would be better if the cart fell off the track onto more track and kept going
00:13 Octupus hi NekoGloop
00:14 OldCoder Hey
00:14 Octupus hi OldCoder
00:16 Octupus I finnaly learnt how to cut stuff in Gimp :D
00:18 MiJyn good for you!
00:18 MiJyn GIMP is such a fun tool :D
00:18 NekoGloop ... ctrl+x
00:19 NakedFury give the carts physics and that could happen
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00:20 MiJyn NekoGloop, well, you have to select it first, and that's harder than with a text editor lol
00:20 NekoGloop lol nope
00:20 NekoGloop just the "selection" tool :P
00:23 MiJyn NekoGloop, yeah, a simple selection is like that, but if you want to do a good selection...
00:23 MiJyn it can take several minutes
00:23 MiJyn or at least it takes me several minutes
00:23 OldCoder Octupus, Hi
00:24 MiJyn you know, wizard tool, undo, change threshhold, undo, change mode to "add to selection"...
00:25 NakedFury oldcoder will you use RBA's new super inventory mod?
00:27 NakedFury https://github.com/RealBadAngel/unifiedinventory I dont know if it is finished
00:27 moltenbot NakedFurys link: RealBadAngel/unifiedinventory ? GitHub
00:28 Octupus bitches love t rawww
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00:41 OldCoder NakedFury, does it work with 0.4.3 ?
00:41 VanessaE no.
00:41 OldCoder I understand his latest stuff needs 0.4.4
00:41 OldCoder Ah
00:41 OldCoder VanessaE, ty. NakedFury ^
00:41 VanessaE (it glitches slightly on 0.4.4 also, but on 0.4.3 you're lucky if you see an inventory at all ;) )
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00:42 OldCoder Dogzilla131, Hi!
00:42 Dogzilla131 ho
00:42 Dogzilla131 hi
00:42 NakedFury well then for consideration for when you upgrade to 0.4.4
00:42 OldCoder NakedFury, Absolutely!
00:42 OldCoder RBA stuff is great
00:43 Dogzilla131 hey did they make a code door
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00:51 NekoGloop RBA stuff is sloppy
00:51 NekoGloop and he prides himself on it? shows how crappy the rest of his work must be
00:51 OldCoder And you are so objective in this matter :p
00:51 STHGOM if anyone wants me say "STHGOM!"
00:52 NekoGloop at least I removed my horrible code so that no one has to see it.
00:52 NekoGloop after all, who wants it to clog up the mod releases forum with its uselessness.
00:52 NakedFury what you have of RBA= envy and what you felt of your code=shame(dont know why)
00:53 NekoGloop not envy
00:53 NekoGloop merely facts.
00:53 NekoGloop and i dont feel shame for my code
00:53 NekoGloop rather, I was merely cleaning your mod releases forum because obviously my code isnt good enough for it
00:54 OldCoder "Cleaning" ?
00:55 OldCoder thexyz, what is the status of NekoGloop threads? Did we end up reviving and reassigning them? Let me know, if you see this in scrollback
00:55 NekoGloop If it isnt wanted, it might as well just be filth waiting to be purged.
00:55 OldCoder Rubbish
00:55 OldCoder You know perfectly well the mods and text are not only wanted but needed
00:55 OldCoder
00:56 OldCoder If they are still gone, put them back or we'll reload from backups. They are important enough that this trumps your wishes
00:56 OldCoder
00:56 NekoGloop how are they needed?
00:56 NekoGloop explain, because your logic isnt making sense.
00:56 OldCoder How are they not? They are part of my worlds
00:56 OldCoder What are your standards for "needed" ?
00:56 NekoGloop a mod that has it as a dependancy.
00:57 OldCoder This strikes me as a foolish definition
00:57 NekoGloop But, eventually, you will have to remove it from your worlds.
00:57 OldCoder Why?
00:57 NekoGloop As it isnt being updated.
00:57 OldCoder So?
00:57 OldCoder I can handle some changes myself
00:57 OldCoder If others are needed, people will help
00:57 NekoGloop You think 0.4.3 mods will work to 0.6?
00:57 OldCoder Preferably you
00:57 OldCoder Heh
00:58 OldCoder NekoGloop, have you looked at my distro package list?
00:58 NekoGloop I wont assist a community which brands my code as shit.
00:58 OldCoder Got any idea of what I'm supporting?
00:58 OldCoder And how does the community do that?
00:58 NekoGloop OldCoder: Everything but windows?
00:58 OldCoder Old code
00:58 OldCoder I keep it going
00:58 OldCoder So, yes... I *can* make your mods work with 0.6 :p
00:58 OldCoder Try me
00:59 NekoGloop heh.
00:59 OldCoder Such a threat! To keep your mods alive!
00:59 OldCoder <--- The audacity!
01:00 NekoGloop yet people will -have- to use your, a third partys', builds.
01:00 OldCoder Nope
01:00 OldCoder What do you mean, builds?
01:00 OldCoder Not to use your mods, at any rate
01:03 NekoGloop why the interest in my mods, when better ones exist?
01:03 NekoGloop gloopores was useless; merely adding a selection of tools.
01:03 NekoGloop gloopblocks added... nothing.
01:04 NekoGloop toolsizes... added even more useless tools.
01:04 NekoGloop cactusmod, who wants to be hurt?
01:04 OldCoder Reviewing
01:05 NekoGloop charcoal... even more uselessness, you get a crapton of coal anyway
01:05 OldCoder NekoGloop, if better mods exist, how does this make your own mods useless?
01:05 OldCoder There is no logic to that point
01:05 NekoGloop gates? use doors.
01:05 OldCoder Reviewing above...
01:06 NekoGloop a texture pack? bah, there's too many already
01:07 OldCoder I see half-truths. I happen to like the cactus. And how is gloopores useless? You left out gems; comment on that. And the big issue: who are you to decide whether or not people should "want" your mods? And *how* has the community treated your work like "sh*t" ? By not depending on your mods? Don't be foolish. It isn't the same thing.
01:07 OldCoder
01:07 OldCoder D:
01:08 NekoGloop gems was entirely useless.
01:08 NekoGloop again; more tools, we have enough
01:08 * OldCoder will be back in 5 minutes. And he's *keeping* the nekomods.
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01:08 NekoGloop the community blatantly CALLED my mods shit.
01:08 OldCoder morsecode, Hi
01:08 OldCoder When?
01:08 OldCoder Link and I'll review
01:08 NekoGloop any time they got?
01:09 NakedFury not counting you I neveer saw anyone say your mod was shit
01:09 STHGOM bye
01:09 NekoGloop because you didnt pay attention
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01:23 OldCoder Bach
01:23 * OldCoder shrugs
01:23 OldCoder thexyz, I'd like revive Nekopages and move them to a different author
01:23 OldCoder *to revive
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02:38 TANKERx64 i wish i could use a nodebox for a wield hand
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02:55 khonkhortisan I wish nodeboxes could be real meshes, with 45° angles
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02:59 * VanessaE looks around..hi.
02:59 VanessaE :-)
02:59 NakedFury hi
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03:21 NekoGloop Meow.
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03:22 VanessaE meow.
03:23 NekoGloop My foot fucking hurts.
03:23 VanessaE I'm sowwy :(
03:24 NekoGloop Yes, i'm going to complain.
03:24 VanessaE so complain, it's a free channel :-)
03:25 MiJyn lol
03:25 VanessaE recall my poison ivy incident about 7 mo...well I guess you weren't here then.
03:25 NekoGloop I'm sure the first amendment doesnt apply to a norwegian channel.
03:26 VanessaE I bitched and moaned quite vocally about it primarily because it delayed that surgery I had.
03:26 VanessaE Norwegian?  Finnish I think you mean, but still..
03:26 NekoGloop Close enough.
03:27 NekoGloop Finnish, fish fins, what's the difference?
03:27 VanessaE lol
03:27 NekoGloop Being immobile means more time to think... primarily on cheesy jokes.
03:28 Muadtralk my my thats some disrespect of a country, or a very funny joke.
03:28 TANKERx64 i just added in support for trees in biomes
03:28 NekoGloop Muadtralk: Does it have to be "or"?
03:28 NekoGloop TANKERx64: Booga booga.
03:28 TANKERx64 i present to you, the forest of wooden mese trees http://i.imgur.com/VpY5Z.png
03:29 VanessaE oy.
03:29 NekoGloop TANKERx64: My my, that's some nice trees you got there.
03:29 * NekoGloop picks up mese pick
03:29 VanessaE someone PLEASE make a better texture for mese for the game to use as the default
03:29 VanessaE NekoGloop:  nonononono
03:29 NekoGloop 'Twould be a shame if something happened to them.
03:29 * VanessaE hands NekoGloop a Maptools Admin Pick.
03:30 NekoGloop Heh.
03:30 TANKERx64 Yes i know, I just need to finish the final functions to create rivers, it's almost done
03:30 VanessaE here, this is indestructible and cuts instantly :-)
03:30 TANKERx64 almost done = in my brain
03:30 NekoGloop Here come the... HAAAAAAAX
03:31 Muadtralk i like mese
03:32 NekoGloop I like the alternate mese texture on the wiki.
03:34 NekoGloop And i also like cats: http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=vfEFQRgmakk
03:34 Muadtralk but you cant hug every cat
03:34 NekoGloop Especially bloody kitten heads.
03:37 NekoGloop Hand delivered to your doorstep.
03:37 NekoGloop In nice cardboard boxes.
03:37 NekoGloop Yupyup.
03:37 Muadtralk appa?
03:37 NekoGloop What?
03:37 Muadtralk nvm
03:40 NekoGloop Meow.
03:43 TANKERx64 why is on_generated such a cpu intense function?
03:44 NekoGloop Because lua
03:49 TANKERx64 this would be absolutely incredible if it wasn't laggy-ish with lua, i mean it's as fast as old mapgen now when a biome is generating, but just not as good as it could be
03:49 TANKERx64 btw want to try biome api lastest neko?]
03:50 NekoGloop 1) ipad, 2) broken foot, not limping to my computer just to test your mod, 3) i dont think i have the same version of minetest as you
03:50 TANKERx64 you don't have 0.4.4? lol
03:50 NekoGloop Yeap
03:50 NekoGloop I have it.
03:50 NekoGloop Shaders borked, intel card ftl
03:51 TANKERx64 you can turn off the shaders lol
03:51 TANKERx64 whoever wants to try this http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=3RLF2976
03:51 TANKERx64 brb
03:51 khonkhortisan the smoothers are too smooth, good job whoever did that
03:53 NekoGloop I just want the damn game to work right, how about that, before prettying it up?
03:54 khonkhortisan there should be servers dedicated to specific things, like mesecons machines, architecture, pixel art, landscaping, etc.
03:55 NekoGloop Mesecons machine would be nasa...
03:56 khonkhortisan than maybe I'm describing private singleplayer worlds
03:56 Muadtralk hehe but what about when both are wanted?
03:56 Muadtralk do we have a server for every possible combination?
03:56 khonkhortisan Servers I go on seem to have a mix
03:57 khonkhortisan I giant wall of pixel art doesn't fit in a western-themed town
03:57 khonkhortisan *A giant wall
03:57 Muadtralk thats an occasion when it isnt needed
03:57 OldCoder Muadtralk, hi
03:57 Muadtralk but if your in a massive city building project
03:58 Muadtralk say you want graffiti on the buildings
03:58 khonkhortisan I haven't really seen a city
03:58 khonkhortisan other than houses and streets
04:02 khonkhortisan Do pressure plates work upside-down?
04:03 NekoGloop They work with player contact.
04:04 Muadtralk i suppose one could make a upside down pressure plate....
04:04 Muadtralk not quite sure how well it would work though
04:50 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest_game/commit/71757944189ad0f69125724af63dbba923e49793
04:50 moltenbot VanessaEs link: Changed Mese object to be more consistent with other ores (see below). ?  7175794 ? VanessaE/minetest_game ? GitHub
04:51 VanessaE anyone care to comment on this?
04:51 khonkhortisan don't even need git log with the bot around
04:51 VanessaE too bad the bot doesn't also log Git pull requests :-)
04:52 khonkhortisan I think it would affect other mods that use magic mese recipes
04:52 VanessaE yes, it would.
04:52 VanessaE but they can be fixed.
04:52 khonkhortisan you can still tell it apart from a gold ingot, right?
04:52 VanessaE yes.
04:52 VanessaE gold is a bit redder and darker
04:53 NakedFury can you remove the word mese from the texture
04:53 NakedFury ?
04:53 khonkhortisan that's the easy part
04:53 NakedFury we dont need subtitles for the blocks
04:53 VanessaE NakedFury: I could, but I left it there as a legacy to the original texture.
04:54 VanessaE er as an homage rather.
04:54 VanessaE NakedFury: do look at the new texture I submitted though, it's 1000000x better than the old one.
04:55 NakedFury I did look, at the end it shows them
04:55 VanessaE yup
04:55 NakedFury its not as banana bright yellow
04:55 NakedFury so thats good
04:55 khonkhortisan Do we have rust yet?
04:55 VanessaE actually it still is, but with the shaders it doesn't rape the eyes anymore ;)
04:55 VanessaE khonkhortisan: not that I am aware of
04:56 TANKERx64 celeron55, i have some new sounds that i think you will like
04:56 NakedFury rust would add a nice element to the game
04:56 khonkhortisan how would it work?
04:56 VanessaE well rust would be easy to do I guess...but why?
04:56 VanessaE I mean, steel block next to water = rusty block after a time?
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04:57 khonkhortisan air
04:57 khonkhortisan oh.
04:57 NakedFury it would make you use all the unused metals you have stocked
04:57 VanessaE ohhh
04:57 VanessaE so you mean more like a general corrosion mod.
04:57 khonkhortisan yeah, we already have that other water-growing stuff
04:58 NakedFury and it could be set to be so a metal item would have to be almost completely cover in water to start rusting
04:58 khonkhortisan doesn't have to touch water, does it?
04:58 VanessaE I say it needs to be near water.
04:58 VanessaE at least, for an in-world node that should rust
04:59 khonkhortisan if you built a big metal cube, would only the outside rust?
04:59 VanessaE a solid metal cube?  well IRL such a thing would eventually rust through after a long LONG time
05:00 VanessaE but a sheetmetal cube?  10 years tops if it's unprotected, 20-30 if it's painted.
05:01 NakedFury add rust to items too
05:01 khonkhortisan I have a waterbottle with what looks like a keyring through the top and I noticed it rusted
05:06 NakedFury would it be possible to make a lua hook for player reach so it can be edited? so later when combat is better weapons with long reach like spears and almost no reach like daggers can be added and work as intended
05:13 VanessaE poke at Taoki about that :-)
05:13 VanessaE she does have plans to show the wielded item/weapon/tool, so maybe
05:17 NakedFury but change the reach of the player? like instead of reaching I think 6 blocks in front of you you can only do maybe 2 with hands and it changes depending on items?
05:22 khonkhortisan then different sizes of tools would actually mean something
05:26 VanessaE ah, I see what you mean
05:26 VanessaE I don't see any reason why that couldn't be added, but I don't know the engine at all, let alone where such a change would need to be made.
05:30 khonkhortisan I know the engine well enough to know that rails cheat when compared to nodeboxes for diagonal faces
05:31 VanessaE heh
05:38 VanessaE dare I ask how it cheats? :-)
05:41 khonkhortisan A face of a nodebox is locked to an xy/yz/zx direction. A rail can go in the x(yz)/z(xz) directions. The problem isn't in the 3d, it's well capable of diagonal faces. The problem is in minetest, where it forces most faces to be on axes.
05:46 mrtux goodnight
05:48 VanessaE er, good night.
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06:55 devlab Hi
07:04 VanessaE hi
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07:32 devlab Minetest started crashing
07:33 VanessaE what kind of errors?
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07:34 hohoho anyone here know much about the technic mod? more specifically the geothermal generator?
07:34 VanessaE hohoho: I think RealBadAngel can answer than ;-)
07:35 VanessaE that*
07:35 hohoho lol hey VanessaE
07:35 VanessaE hi
07:35 hohoho im trying to get the geothermal working but seems im doing it wrong (presuming it works)
07:35 hohoho so figured id see if anyone else knows how it works
07:36 hohoho I've tried placing it right above a lava source block as well as surrounded by lava source blocks
07:36 VanessaE I believe you have to do this:
07:36 hohoho without any known documentation that im aware of I have to guess
07:36 VanessaE bottom layer:
07:36 hohoho lol
07:38 VanessaE bottom layer:
07:38 VanessaE C C C C C
07:38 VanessaE C C C C C
07:38 VanessaE C C C C C  = cobble or really anything non-flammable.
07:38 VanessaE C C C C C
07:38 VanessaE C C C C C
07:38 VanessaE top layer:
07:38 VanessaE - - C - -
07:38 VanessaE - C W C -
07:38 VanessaE C L G L C
07:39 VanessaE - C W C -   W = Water, L = lava, G = geothermal device
07:39 VanessaE - - C - -   C = cobble
07:39 khonkhortisan text art made me look over here
07:39 VanessaE and then open the center spot in the bottom layer right under the geothermal device and run wires straight down and out to your receivers.
07:39 VanessaE ascii art ftw :-)
07:40 khonkhortisan I would've said ascii art but I would've risked someone saying it wasn't ascii
07:40 hohoho so.. 2 x 5 pad of cobble?
07:41 hohoho oops 3 x 5*
07:41 VanessaE 5x5.
07:41 khonkhortisan 5x2x5
07:41 VanessaE but you can cut away the cobble you don't need of course.
07:41 VanessaE as long as you have the lava, water, geothermal device, and a suitable water/lava barrier in place as shown above.
07:42 khonkhortisan such as a cobble plus on the bottom layer
07:42 VanessaE yes
07:46 hohoho well seems I got it working.. briefly
07:46 hohoho obsidian mod turns the lava to obsidian
07:46 hohoho lol
07:46 VanessaE heh
07:46 VanessaE you gotta place the geothermal device and lava/water barriers first :-)
07:46 VanessaE then run the wire
07:47 VanessaE then add the water and lava.
07:47 * khonkhortisan is making money online. Real money! (not very much) [takes days to start paying] {pays less than minimum wage} <not worth your time> -I'll shut up now-
07:47 VanessaE lol
07:48 hohoho I did as per instructions but lava and water "too close"
07:49 VanessaE huh.
07:50 VanessaE well time to ditch the obsidian mod ;-)
07:51 hohoho na
07:51 hohoho just won't have geothermal I guess
07:51 hohoho lol
07:52 VanessaE make a homedecor light fixture and place it above a solar panel ;-)
07:54 hohoho I take it RealBadAngel when making technic didn't have obsidian installed lol
07:55 VanessaE ask him :-)
07:55 hohoho oh well still have solar coal and nuclear
07:55 hohoho lol
08:26 devlab lol
08:27 devlab here is the error: ERROR[EmergeThread]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: LuaError: error: ...minetest/mods/minetest/industry_pack/rubber/init.lua:98: attempt to index global 'farming' (a nil value)
08:35 hohoho no farming mod installed?
08:38 devlab it's there
08:40 thexyz OldCoder: we can't reassign those threads without help of c55
08:57 hohoho too bad RealBadAngel isn't on, I think I found a bug in technic
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09:24 markveidemanis HI
09:25 john_minetest hi
09:25 markveidemanis wanna build a castle with me on my server?
09:27 john_minetest okay. is it 0.4.4?
09:28 Trezker I think you guys captured the essence of a good sandbox game right there...
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09:37 Calinou "* - Welcome to sturgeon.freenode.net in London, UK! Thank you * - to MCBans for sponsoring this server!" < what the fu... shitty developers supported by shitty MC server admins
09:39 Calinou noone wants to donate to freenode so they're forced to get money from minecraft fanboys
09:39 Calinou poor them
09:39 Zeg9 Freenode sponsored by mcbans... okay
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09:46 john_minetest lol. hi zeg
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09:52 KikaRz marktraceur.
09:52 KikaRz -NickServ- Last failed attempt from: marktraceur!~marktrace@fsf/member/marktraceur on Dec 07 18:55:55 2012.
09:53 KikaRz hi people
09:53 KikaRz hi OldCoder, can you send me that minetest.conf that you used in my other server?
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10:04 markveidemanis Zeg9: plz help me with my castle on server
10:04 markveidemanis #medeival
10:08 KikaRz who can test my server with me?
10:09 markveidemanis i will, possibly later. ip?
10:09 KikaRz not public
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10:14 KikaRz my server is a bit laggy.
10:14 KikaRz 128 ram cant run nothign i guess..
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10:15 RealBadAngel hi all
10:15 KikaRz hi
10:16 KikaRz RealBadAngel, can you give me tips to enhance my server speed?
10:16 KikaRz OS: Ubuntu 12.05
10:16 RealBadAngel i havent played with server setting, ask VanessaE about it
10:17 RealBadAngel she was doing some tweaks to it
10:19 john_minetest OldCoder?
10:20 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/unified_inventory.zip
10:20 RealBadAngel new version of UI
10:21 RealBadAngel i have almost get crafting guide to work
10:21 RealBadAngel i found a way to catch all the ingame crafting recipes
10:21 KikaRz ...
10:21 KikaRz you really?
10:21 KikaRz there is a crafting guide mod already
10:21 KikaRz you can use that
10:22 RealBadAngel yes, but as you may notice im makin Unified version of player's inventory
10:22 RealBadAngel cornernote's mods are used there
10:23 RealBadAngel bags, home pos and crafting guide too
10:24 RealBadAngel im just using them in a very different way
10:25 RealBadAngel just try the mod and see differences
10:31 KikaRz hate that random holes
10:31 KikaRz in the map generation
10:33 john_minetest Kray? Are you online?
10:36 KikaRz Whos the creator of WorldEdit?
10:36 KikaRz i just want to say that his mod is lagging a lot in this version. and sphere command takes a lot to respond
10:38 Kray yes
10:38 KikaRz guess my server crashed
10:38 KikaRz Ctrl + C done. Server shutting down
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10:40 KikaRz fuck
10:40 KikaRz guess my vps crashed
10:40 Calinou Taoki: I thought blender could export to .x without any plugin... it can only export to .x3d :/
10:41 Taoki Calinou: It can. Just enable the addon from the preferences menu
10:41 KikaRz FUUUU
10:41 Taoki Type x in the search box, look for an entry for DirectX
10:41 Taoki Check that then you should have the x exporter in the Export menu
10:41 KikaRz ./hey
10:41 KikaRz how i stop a process?
10:41 KikaRz in linux?
10:41 Calinou me 0-1 blender interface :|
10:41 Calinou KikaRz: to stop a script you're running? ctrl+c
10:41 KikaRz 14:41:28: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: Failed to bind socket (port already in use?)
10:41 KikaRz Not that
10:42 Calinou to kill a process? killall <process_name>
10:42 Taoki NOTE! When exporting, select the object, its rig if available, and in the export menu use Selected Objects only and Export Animations and also check for the rig
10:42 KikaRz the server is already running
10:42 Calinou then ctrl+c
10:42 KikaRz not that
10:42 KikaRz running in other plan
10:42 KikaRz but i dont see him
10:42 KikaRz its killall
10:42 KikaRz ./thank you anyway calinou
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10:43 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:44 KikaRz Are you the creator of WorldEdit?
10:44 PilzAdam nope
10:45 Calinou blender still lacks IQM import/export in addons menu :|
10:47 Calinou sfan5 is
10:47 Jordach RealBadAngel - pm
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10:51 Jordach hey PilzAdam
10:57 KikaRz dafaq?
10:57 KikaRz if you free the space in disk
10:57 KikaRz you get the server faster
10:57 KikaRz AWESOME
10:57 KikaRz problem was: 2 servers in the vps
10:57 KikaRz 0.4.3 and 0.4.4
10:58 KikaRz i deleted 0.4.43
10:58 KikaRz i deleted 0.4.3*
10:58 KikaRz YAAAAAAAY! NO LAG
11:03 KikaRz wwguys
11:03 KikaRz whats that setting in minetest.conf
11:03 KikaRz that sets the time only to day
11:03 KikaRz or only to night?
11:07 PilzAdam time_speed = 0
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11:11 Zeg9 PilzAdam, I think I found a bug in carts 2.0
11:11 devlab I wonder if a hatch like door exists in Minetest
11:12 PilzAdam Zeg9, what is it?
11:12 Zeg9 You can make it fly
11:12 PilzAdam devlab, there are mods for this
11:12 Zeg9 oh wait, I'll update
11:12 Zeg9 I'll tell you if it's still there
11:13 devlab PilzAdam: for example?
11:14 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3458
11:14 moltenbot PilzAdams link: [Mod]hatche 3D (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
11:14 Zeg9 PilzAdam, it's still there
11:14 PilzAdam how do you get it to fly?
11:14 Zeg9 put it between two turning rails
11:15 Zeg9 Is there a server up with carts?
11:15 PilzAdam 24.181.139.82 30000
11:15 Zeg9 ok
11:15 PilzAdam *24.181.193.82
11:23 devlab Registration needed to get that file
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11:26 PilzAdam Zeg9, fixed
11:27 Zeg9 PilzAdam, thanks
11:27 PilzAdam I already had code to fix that but it was messed up
11:32 KikaRz why i am always timing out?
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11:39 john_minetest markveidemanis?
11:39 john_minetest oh, he's off...
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11:51 OldCoder paxcoder, good name!
11:51 OldCoder Back BTW
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11:52 paxcoder ++nr_ppl_liking_nick;
11:52 paxcoder nr_ppl_liking_nick
11:53 paxcoder 3
11:57 OldCoder Good morning
11:58 paxcoder afternoon.
11:59 OldCoder Indeed
12:00 paxcoder the 60s retro design trend is quite nice http://nostarch.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/9781593274252.png Wonder when i'll get tired of it
12:00 paxcoder Debian user here, i just found that in my feeds and thought it looked nice
12:02 paxcoder Relebant: I also found this in my feeds http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/ik-iZP3KRAM/story01.htm
12:02 moltenbot paxcoders link: RMS Speaks Out Against Ubuntu - Slashdot
12:04 paxcoder moltenbot, owner
12:04 paxcoder !owner
12:08 paxcoder awesome commentary: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3301707&amp;cid=42216499 http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3301707&amp;cid=42216447
12:08 moltenbot paxcoders link: RMS Speaks Out Against Ubuntu - Slashdot
12:10 paxcoder linking paxcoders will be linking
12:10 paxcoder hmmm
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12:13 OldCoder marktraceur, Hi
12:13 OldCoder thexyz, VanessaE, celeron55 whose bot is molten again? paxcoder has a good idea above: they should add owner command
12:13 OldCoder Oops
12:14 OldCoder I meant markveidemanis hi
12:14 markveidemanis hi
12:16 markveidemanis could u go o my server and recommend me some mods that would look great with my buildings?
12:16 KikaRz i can
12:16 KikaRz i know which mods
12:16 markveidemanis 86.142.235.153:30000
12:17 KikaRz MoreBlocks and BobBlocks (i guess is that the name)
12:17 markveidemanis server crashed
12:17 KikaRz Soon... going to buy the
12:17 KikaRz http://www.host1plus.com/vps-hosting/
12:17 KikaRz 20.
12:17 moltenbot KikaRzs link: Get Started with Cloud VPS Server Hosting Service - Host1Plus
12:18 KikaRz that very powerful one
12:18 KikaRz My app is going to rock
12:18 KikaRz and will get many sells
12:18 KikaRz its a "gif" maker
12:18 KikaRz but with blocks
12:18 KikaRz and etc
12:18 KikaRz not blocks, only cubes
12:19 OldCoder KikaRz, Hi
12:19 KikaRz Hi OldCoder
12:20 KikaRz OldCoder
12:20 KikaRz can you help me on enhancing my server?
12:20 KikaRz its too laggy
12:20 KikaRz 128 MB Ram i guess... but in the other one, it was more faster
12:20 paxcoder moltenbot, catch http://161.53.120.19/WebDiP/2011_projekti/WebDiP2011_061/tmp.html
12:20 moltenbot paxcoders link: http://161.53.120.19/WebDiP/2011_projekti/WebDiP2011_061/tmp.html
12:20 paxcoder no loop. too bad.
12:21 OldCoder KikaRz, 128MB RAM is pretty limited
12:21 KikaRz yea, i know
12:21 OldCoder KikaRz, wait; I thought that one had more
12:21 KikaRz linux: ubuntu 12.05
12:21 KikaRz well, i think it have more
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12:21 OldCoder Is that all the RAM? 128GB?
12:21 KikaRz how i check in vps
12:21 OldCoder iqualfragile, Hi!
12:21 KikaRz ?
12:21 OldCoder iqualfragile, who does moltenbot belong too?
12:21 KikaRz how i check in the vps, the system reqs?
12:21 OldCoder KikaRz, to "top"
12:21 iqualfragile hi
12:22 OldCoder Oops
12:22 OldCoder KikaRz, there is more
12:22 OldCoder KikaRz, I will connect in and showyou
12:22 KikaRz not that
12:22 iqualfragile moltenbot belongs to me
12:22 KikaRz but how i check in tyhe vps
12:22 iqualfragile hi moltenbot
12:22 moltenbot hi iqualfragile
12:22 KikaRz how much is
12:22 KikaRz hi moltenbot
12:22 moltenbot hi KikaRz
12:22 OldCoder KikaRz, If you wish me to show you how I will
12:22 KikaRz :D, he said me hi :D
12:22 OldCoder iqualfragile, add !owner command
12:22 paxcoder iqualfragile, paxcoders is a plural of paxcoder
12:23 iqualfragile hmm… how do i express ownership?
12:23 paxcoder howdoi bot
12:23 paxcoder iqualfragile, sorry, i'm just being mean :-)
12:23 KikaRz !re
12:23 moltenbot go away KikaRz
12:23 paxcoder but seriously. "paxcoder's link"
12:23 KikaRz kidding
12:24 iqualfragile allright
12:24 paxcoder alright *
12:25 * paxcoder has spellcheck in his irc client and browsers
12:28 devlab I stumbled upon a cave under my house just now
12:29 iqualfragile !re
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12:29 iqualfragile http://minetest.net
12:29 moltenbot iqualfragile's link: About - Minetest
12:30 iqualfragile and added !owner
12:30 iqualfragile (to privmsg)
12:30 iqualfragile OldCoder paxcoder ↑
12:30 paxcoder !owner
12:31 paxcoder why privmsg?
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12:33 PilzAdam !owner
12:36 PilzAdam hm, should carts have an unlimited velocity?
12:37 OldCoder !owner
12:37 john_minetest hi Oldcoder.
12:38 john_minetest When will you update your server? Isn't nessecary, just want to know.
12:39 KikaRz !owner
12:39 OldCoder john_minetest, Update to what?
12:39 KikaRz <moltenbot> iqualfragile
12:39 OldCoder iqualfragile++ for private message. Keep that type of thing up.
12:39 OldCoder john_minetest, if you mean 0.4.4 it will need to wait until upstream has LevelDB and the new release is less crashy
12:39 john_minetest OldCoder: to version 0.4.4
12:39 OldCoder ^
12:40 john_minetest okay.
12:40 OldCoder john_minetest, the worlds are LevelDB now including your world
12:40 OldCoder Your world will not run with 0.4.4 until they add LevelDB
12:40 OldCoder It is not optional; it is the format of the world now
12:41 john_minetest okay, I understand.
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12:46 OldCoder LRuffati, hi
12:47 markveidemanis who was john, on my sever?
12:47 markveidemanis servrre
12:47 markveidemanis SERVER
12:48 markveidemanis wtf is leveldb
12:48 OldCoder markveidemanis, The "wtf" is about no more 4GB limit and faster speed and less corruption. Good enough for you?
12:49 markveidemanis yep
12:49 OldCoder k
13:06 paxcoder OldCoder, with that, you only got me interested
13:07 OldCoder All right
13:07 paxcoder alright* XD
13:07 OldCoder VanessaE has a detailed post on the subject IIRC
13:07 OldCoder See her for the link
13:07 paxcoder VanessaE, ?
13:07 OldCoder She is asleep ATM
13:08 paxcoder OldCoder, gimme link!
13:08 OldCoder I don't know it
13:08 OldCoder Wait; checking
13:08 OldCoder Found it...
13:09 OldCoder Let me put the code where the article says...
13:09 OldCoder This will take a few minutes
13:09 paxcoder k
13:10 OldCoder http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=49856#p49856
13:10 moltenbot OldCoder's link: [0.4.4] Redcrab's server (Page 90) - Servers - Minetest Forums
13:10 OldCoder paxcoder, Review that
13:10 OldCoder This is 0.4.3
13:11 KikaRz I love that
13:11 KikaRz http://omgpop.com/
13:11 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Play Fun Multiplayer Games Free At OMGPOP
13:12 KikaRz playing Draw my THing
13:13 paxcoder KikaRz, is someone paying you to post the links you post?
13:14 markveidemanis who can help me with my castle?
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13:16 paxcoder OldCoder, While SQLite is a pretty featureless database (I wont's say useless, but cmon), I'm not sure how a key-value store fits better here
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13:16 OldCoder paxcoder, speak with thexyz and he will comment
13:16 OldCoder paxcoder, point is...
13:17 OldCoder paxcoder, database is smaller, faster, reliable, and no 4GB limit
13:17 OldCoder What more do you wish?
13:17 paxcoder marktraceur, talk to Michael_Eh, but only if it's huge ;-)
13:17 paxcoder OldCoder, what makes it faster?
13:17 OldCoder paxcoder, Apparently the key-value issue
13:17 paxcoder that's the part I don't see.
13:17 * OldCoder shrugs
13:17 OldCoder I am running about 18 worlds on it
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13:17 OldCoder I assure you it is smaller, faster, and more reliable
13:18 OldCoder Matsetes, Hi
13:18 Matsetes Hi, OldCoder
13:18 paxcoder division into tables with relational databases and foreign keys helps you reduce search time. If for each and every value you must search the whole database (is that not the case with k-v stores?) then come it's faster?
13:19 OldCoder paxcoder, Apparently it is a better match for this application; i.e., Minetest
13:19 * paxcoder takes pitty on markveidemanis
13:19 paxcoder markveidemanis, hello
13:19 markveidemanis hi
13:22 paxcoder Also, I don't want to seem ungrateful but I don't understand how people like VanessaE and other minetest devs can be willing to put so much time into deving a game, unless they juggle time better than I do and still have other projects that they work on. I guess they may be spending the time i spend playing it on deving it. But still, what's the motivation?
13:24 paxcoder bbl, lunch
13:34 thexyz paxcoder: do you know how is map data stored in minetest?
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13:38 OldCoder Zeg9, hi
13:38 Zeg9 Hello!
13:39 OldCoder paxcoder, it is a broad and interesting question
13:39 paxcoder thexyz, i do not
13:40 paxcoder i never studied minetest code really
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13:40 paxcoder i don't much deal with games
13:41 thexyz it uses such format: (pos, 64int) → (blob)
13:41 paxcoder ouch
13:41 Jeija Is there any way to modify minetest.registered_nodes["anynodename"], so the nodedef of a block after it has been registered?
13:42 paxcoder thexyz, i see now XD
13:42 rubenwardy I happen to have a Windows 98, 32MB Ram, 5 GB hard drive.
13:42 rubenwardy Will minetest run on it?
13:43 paxcoder rubenwardy, 32 MB RAM is awfully low. perhaps if you had a dedicated graphics card
13:43 PilzAdam Jeija, override the node
13:43 paxcoder actually, not sure
13:44 rubenwardy it is a laptop, as well
13:44 paxcoder there's not much you can fit in 32 megs
13:44 rubenwardy from ages ago
13:44 rubenwardy lol
13:44 rubenwardy 250mb is the record so far
13:44 paxcoder rubenwardy, well, anyway
13:44 paxcoder *anymore
13:45 rubenwardy it is so old that it does not support usb drives, only floppy disks and cd's
13:45 Jeija PilzAdam: It doesn't work: minetest.registered_nodes["whatever"].test = "test" print(minetest.registered_nodes["whatever"].test) --> Doesn't output "test", error
13:45 paxcoder rubenwardy, if you could use all of that to store game data, you could only store less than 1024 blocks (because you need to store keys too)
13:45 paxcoder actually, no
13:46 PilzAdam Jeija, you have to copy the minetest.registered_nodes table by hand (with a loop or so)
13:46 rubenwardy I think i should try it with 0.3.1
13:46 paxcoder well, i don't know how a single block looks like
13:46 paxcoder rubenwardy, nvm, ignore me. but i think you won't be able to run it
13:46 Jeija But can I actually write it again?
13:46 PilzAdam Jeija, and then pass it to minetest.register_node(":"..name
13:46 rubenwardy I dont think so either, but it is still fun
13:46 rubenwardy to try
13:47 Jeija oh yes PilzAdam, I had already forgot that possibility, thx!
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13:58 rubenwardy Damn, the laptop does not support Win 7 format of writing disks
13:58 rubenwardy and i dont have a floppy disk writer so...
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14:07 KikaRz guys
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14:07 KikaRz how i dualboot windows 98 with windows xp ?
14:07 KikaRz i got windows xp, but some games need windows 98 because of compatibility
14:08 Muadtralk compatibility with what?
14:08 OldCoder Muadtralk, gm
14:08 Muadtralk gm?
14:10 PilzAdam General Motors
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14:12 KikaRz with the graphics card MuadTralk
14:12 Muadtralk ah
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14:16 VanessaE good morning all
14:16 VanessaE (etc)
14:16 KikaRz VanessaE
14:16 KikaRz need to talk with you
14:16 KikaRz in private
14:17 VanessaE what?
14:18 * markveidemanis_ is downloading minecraft skins
14:18 * PilzAdam pokes VanessaE with latest fixes in carts mod
14:20 VanessaE ow.
14:20 markveidemanis_ http://www.minecraftskins.info/skineditor.html
14:20 moltenbot markveidemanis_'s link: Minecraft Skins | Skin Editor
14:20 markveidemanis_ yep
14:20 markveidemanis_ plz make one
14:20 KikaRz no
14:20 VanessaE on the 2.0 branch?
14:20 KikaRz use the 2dcraft
14:20 markveidemanis_ and send to me
14:20 KikaRz no
14:20 KikaRz skincraft
14:20 KikaRz use skincraft
14:20 VanessaE PilzAdam: updated (running the 2.0 branch)
14:21 rubenwardy (2:07:47 PM) KikaRz: i got windows xp, but some games need windows 98 because of compatibility
14:21 rubenwardy You could use a compatibilty pack
14:21 KikaRz ...
14:21 KikaRz not that
14:21 KikaRz my graphics card run better with windows 2000 / 98
14:22 rubenwardy right-click, properties, compatibility, 98 service pack 1
14:22 VanessaE last I knew, fully up-to-date WinXP could still run all win95/98 stuff ?
14:22 VanessaE of course, this is 2012, why are you using windows at all?
14:23 KikaRz not that
14:23 KikaRz rubenwardy, go to linux, .
14:23 KikaRz VanessaE, because linux sucks at my graphics card
14:24 VanessaE KikaRz: which is...what?
14:24 rubenwardy I have linuc
14:25 rubenwardy linux
14:25 KikaRz so, shut up. You sucks at Windows.
14:25 KikaRz Nvidia Geforce 2 mx mx 400
14:25 rubenwardy I have windows as well
14:25 rubenwardy dual boot
14:25 rubenwardy i am on windows now
14:25 rubenwardy fyi
14:26 VanessaE dual boot...*shiver*
14:26 VanessaE 100% Linux here :-)
14:26 KikaRz ...
14:26 KikaRz rubenwardy, you're at 7 i guess
14:26 rubenwardy yes
14:26 rubenwardy I used to have XP for a while
14:26 KikaRz yep
14:27 markveidemanis_ who here plays minaecraft
14:27 VanessaE KikaRz: blame nVidia then.  they're the ones who control what code runs on what platform, and are who EOL'd your card.
14:27 VanessaE markveidemanis_: no one would ever do that.  such a thought :-O
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14:27 KikaRz wyea!
14:27 KikaRz markveidemanis_ is a traitor! Kill him!!!!!
14:27 markveidemanis_ ok
14:27 markveidemanis_ help me choose a skin
14:27 markveidemanis_ how do i send files
14:28 VanessaE just search for a nice skin on one of the various Minecraft websites, and when you find one post the address of it.
14:28 markveidemanis_ just that minecraft skins work with minetest#
14:28 VanessaE yes
14:28 markveidemanis_ i have "some"
14:29 markveidemanis_ can i send them to u and u choose one
14:29 markveidemanis_ and can u come on my server and choose one for urself?
14:29 VanessaE put them on some site like ompldr or imgur.
14:31 rubenwardy I love reading 68.26 / 10,000 MB memory used on my server
14:31 VanessaE heh
14:32 rubenwardy the best thing is, it's free
14:32 VanessaE 11956 vanessa   20   0  263m  26m 3024 S    2  0.7   0:15.96 minetestserver
14:32 rubenwardy only draw back is the .bugs3 address
14:32 rubenwardy (2:32:10 PM) VanessaE: 11956 vanessa   20   0  263m  26m 3024 S    2  0.7   0:15.96 minetestserver
14:32 rubenwardy What does that mean?
14:32 VanessaE the output from the 'top' command :-)
14:33 VanessaE PID 11956, running as me, priority 20, niced 0, 263MB virtual, 26MB resitend, 3024kB shared, sleeping, using 2% CPU and 0.7% of the available memory
14:33 markveidemanis_ imgur very fast...
14:35 markveidemanis_ http://imgur.com/kslCo
14:35 moltenbot markveidemanis_'s link: imgur: the simple image sharer
14:35 VanessaE markveidemanis_: you want this skin on my server then?
14:35 markveidemanis_ google.com
14:35 markveidemanis_ yep, can i be honeydew??????
14:36 VanessaE huh?
14:36 markveidemanis_ no, im the one called player_markveidemanis
14:36 VanessaE installed.
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14:37 markveidemanis_ http://www.minecraftskins.info/Honeydew.png
14:37 markveidemanis_ ok
14:37 markveidemanis_ ip??
14:37 Penguin Hi
14:38 VanessaE ok, installed the honeydew one.  24.181.193.82 port 30000
14:38 VanessaE hi Penguin
14:38 Penguin i
14:38 Penguin hi*
14:39 Penguin Can Anyone Convert MC Texture Packs ?
14:39 markveidemanis_ no
14:39 VanessaE I don't, sorry.
14:40 VanessaE maybe what you want has already been done
14:40 markveidemanis_ what texture pack
14:40 markveidemanis_ 3rd person view??
14:40 Penguin http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/376784-16x-32x-64x-128x-256x-512x145-sphax-purebdcraft-281012/page__st__6660__hl__+bdcraft
14:40 moltenbot Penguin's link: [16x, 32x, 64x, 128x, 256x, 512x][1.4.5] Sphax PureBDCraft (28/10/12) - Minecraft Forum - Page 334 - Page 334
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14:44 VanessaE markveidemanis_: sign out/in plz.
14:44 VanessaE that's better.
14:45 markveidemanis_ the cart bugged out and is going through the world
14:45 VanessaE it returned to its origin already.
14:45 VanessaE that was because I restarted the server
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14:55 celeron55 i see there has been some talk about running minetest on older windowses
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14:56 celeron55 before somebody gets disappointed, i'll mention that the current versions of zlib (that minetest is built with) don't support anything older than XP
14:56 celeron55 not even 2k
14:57 rubenwardy (2:40:44 PM) Penguin: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/376784-16x-32x-64x-128x-256x-512x145-sphax-purebdcraft-281012/page__st__6660__hl__+bdcraft
14:57 rubenwardy http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2052
14:57 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: [16x, 32x, 64x, 128x, 256x, 512x][1.4.5] Sphax PureBDCraft (28/10/12) - Minecraft Forum - Page 334 - Page 334
14:57 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Post your texture pack conversion requests here (Page 1) - Texture Packs - Minetest Forums
14:57 rubenwardy that was me
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14:57 rubenwardy the dvd i used to transfer it does not work on 98
14:57 rubenwardy and i do not have a floppy disk writer so...
15:01 * OldCoder is resting again for a bit
15:02 * rubenwardy is about to implement real bbcode in his Minetest Extensions mod forum
15:06 paxcoder i suggest markup instead
15:06 paxcoder with a possible third-party whitelist of html tags/attributes
15:09 KikaRz guys
15:09 KikaRz who got a mesecons server?
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15:14 VanessaE hah, speak of the devil
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15:16 markveidemanis_ lkkju
15:17 KikaRz who can listen to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9emjalsOsE ?
15:17 moltenbot KikaRz's link: "Minecraft Style" - A Parody of PSY's Gangnam Style (Music Video) - YouTube
15:18 KikaRz Someone claimed it and blocked his watching to everyone
15:18 Zeg9 some dumb users
15:18 KikaRz yea
15:18 KikaRz that assholes.
15:18 KikaRz are everywhere.
15:20 VanessaE blame youtube.
15:20 KikaRz wait a sec, going to puke... (my father went to poop then, the smell is here in the bedroom)
15:20 VanessaE they took the easy way out and put a tool others can use to block videos.
15:20 VanessaE instead of requiring a proper DMCA process.
15:20 KikaRz just go to Developers place
15:20 KikaRz and you gotta way.
15:21 KikaRz http://www.youtube.com/dev
15:21 moltenbot KikaRz's link: YouTube
15:24 KikaRz Specification: http://gdata.youtube.com/demo/index.html
15:24 moltenbot KikaRz's link: YouTube Data API - Demo Beta
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15:26 * VanessaE pokes Jeija
15:27 * KikaRz slaps Jeija with a bottle of wine.
15:28 KikaRz hey
15:28 KikaRz youtube music download in itunes is free?
15:28 VanessaE dunno
15:28 VanessaE I don't use itunes.
15:29 * Jordach is forced to use iTunes
15:30 KikaRz so jordach
15:30 KikaRz how its  it?
15:36 Jordach this is funny http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/pics/zeichnungen/minetest-dad.png
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15:40 markveidemanis vanessae
15:40 VanessaE hm?
15:41 markveidemanis on your serve
15:41 markveidemanis rr
15:41 markveidemanis plz link to your carts mod
15:41 VanessaE it's pilzadam's carts
15:41 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2451
15:41 moltenbot VanessaE's link: [Mod] Carts [carts] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
15:41 VanessaE https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts
15:41 moltenbot VanessaE's link: PilzAdam/carts ? GitHub
15:42 * rubenwardy is listening to Bon Jovi
15:42 markveidemanis http://imgur.com/kslCo
15:42 moltenbot markveidemanis's link: imgur: the simple image sharer
15:42 PilzAdam markveidemanis, download the carts 2.0 branch
15:42 markveidemanis k
15:42 markveidemanis link?
15:43 PilzAdam its on the GitHub page VanessaE posted
15:45 markveidemanis cant download from branch bit
15:48 markveidemanis jhy
15:48 markveidemanis pilzadam
15:49 KikaRz may i download ubuntu and install it in my pc?
15:49 KikaRz with dualboot
15:49 KikaRz of windows with it?
15:49 markveidemanis sure go ahead
15:49 markveidemanis lol
15:49 markveidemanis i have it
15:49 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/archive/carts_2.0.zip
15:49 markveidemanis had
15:49 KikaRz i guess my pc will rage with me
15:49 KikaRz :(
15:50 KikaRz 77,1 GB
15:50 KikaRz how much i should allocate with ubuntu?
15:50 KikaRz 10 ?
15:50 KikaRz or 15?
15:52 KikaRz omg, nobody wants to talk with me :(
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15:53 KikaRz ok, 20 its fine.
15:54 KikaRz Which one? Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Edubuntu or Mythbuntu?
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15:54 KikaRz Which one? Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Edubuntu or Mythbuntu?
15:54 KikaRz VanessaE, PilzAdam, someone?
15:54 Zeg9 Depends what you need.
15:54 KikaRz i want a smooth one
15:54 NakedFury just go with ubuntu
15:54 KikaRz that dont requires much
15:54 PilzAdam if you have a good PC use Kubuntu
15:54 Zeg9 Anyway, then you can switch without reinstalling
15:54 KikaRz no , i dont have
15:55 Zeg9 Lubuntu for a really simple one
15:55 Zeg9 Ubuntu is quite good too
15:55 KikaRz i have a bad computer... a normal graphics card (not that newer ones), no OpenGL in windows, In linux a bit.
15:55 KikaRz but it has Unity
15:55 KikaRz and Unity sucks
15:55 Zeg9 Then Lubuntu or Xubuntu
15:55 Zeg9 if xubuntu still exists
15:56 KikaRz xubuntu dont exists in this thing
15:56 VanessaE Xubuntu definitely exists.
15:56 VanessaE I use it.
15:56 KikaRz Which version is it?
15:56 KikaRz 12.05 or 12.10?
15:56 Zeg9 Is it still "official" ?
15:56 VanessaE I use 12.04
15:57 KikaRz 12.04.1 LST?
15:57 VanessaE Zeg9: afaik none of the variants it "official" except Edubuntu I think.
15:57 KikaRz downloading wubi of ubuntu
15:57 KikaRz 12.04.1
15:57 VanessaE but it's sill current anyway
15:57 Zeg9 I recently heard Lubuntu and Kubuntu were "official" but actually, who cares lol
15:57 KikaRz i cant see it in 12.10.
15:57 Zeg9 Or use debian/arch/mint/any of the others
15:58 VanessaE dom't use 12.10
15:58 KikaRz no
15:58 KikaRz i prefer crunchbang
15:58 VanessaE don't*
15:58 KikaRz ok VanessaE
15:58 KikaRz Yep, Lubuntu exists in the 12.04.1.
15:58 KikaRz not lubuntu
15:58 KikaRz *xubuntu
15:58 VanessaE KikaRz: you can just install Ubuntu and then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
15:58 KikaRz VanessaE, i should use xubuntu ?
15:58 VanessaE it's up to you.
15:59 KikaRz no, i prefer installing directly.
15:59 Zeg9 xubuntu is really simple
15:59 Zeg9 But then your choice...
15:59 KikaRz Which is the more complicated?
15:59 Zeg9 All are simple...
15:59 Zeg9 to use or for the computer?
15:59 VanessaE KikaRz: there is no difference between apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and just installing it from CD/DVD except that you still have gnome in the former case
15:59 KikaRz ... Who requires more of the computer?
15:59 VanessaE Xubuntu install CD = Ubuntu + xubuntu-desktop - ubuntu-desktop
15:59 VanessaE that's all.
15:59 KikaRz Look, i tried to install Edubuntu
16:00 KikaRz look to this:
16:00 KikaRz 512 MB of memory are required to the installation.
16:00 KikaRz Only 511 MB are available.
16:00 VanessaE use the "alternate" installer if there is one
16:00 KikaRz The installation could fail in this circunstances.
16:00 KikaRz XD
16:00 VanessaE that's designed for smaller systems
16:00 KikaRz thats too stupid
16:00 KikaRz 512 MB = My memory...
16:00 VanessaE yeah that is dumb, I agree
16:00 KikaRz The Wubi says that i have only 511
16:00 KikaRz '-'
16:01 KikaRz LOL
16:01 VanessaE tell it to proceed anyway
16:01 thexyz you shouldn't use wubi at all
16:01 Zeg9 Yeah, there is no point to use it anyway
16:01 VanessaE thexyz: he's a windows fanboi.  good luck getting him to run a dual boot :-)
16:01 KikaRz thexyz, if i want to have dualboot
16:01 Zeg9 except that you don't need to repartition your disks...
16:01 KikaRz VanessaE, I'm a girl like you
16:01 KikaRz unless we both are travesti
16:01 KikaRz :P
16:01 VanessaE ok fangurl then. :-)
16:01 VanessaE I tend to forget
16:01 KikaRz nope, im not fan girl
16:02 KikaRz VanessaE, 1 to 10, how much you give about Xubuntu?
16:02 KikaRz *0 to 10
16:02 VanessaE it you weren't, you'd be running a side-bu-side dual boot.
16:02 VanessaE with 10 being best?  about an 8.
16:02 KikaRz ok
16:02 KikaRz going to install Xubuntu
16:02 VanessaE gnome?  a 7.  gnome 3/unity?  a 2.
16:03 KikaRz going to #ubuntu just a bit
16:04 KikaRz Talking about one thing...
16:04 KikaRz the users answer me another
16:04 KikaRz <jay_> hey, having an issue with not being able to click on anything that pops up. Ie, if I open a program then open a menu I can't click on anything in the menu but I can keyboard navigate on it
16:04 KikaRz * linuxieus (~linuxieus@5355D1AD.cm-6-6d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) entrou em #ubuntu
16:04 KikaRz <LgNexus4> Just reference if cell phone bill is over 80 a month may want to look into straight talk for 60 a month unlimited services
16:04 KikaRz LOL... i asked: <KikaRz> Hello. I got a dumb computer, which system i should use , and what version?
16:04 VanessaE fwiw, off-topic-ness aside, straight talk is about $32/month for 1000 minutes + 1000 text messages.  We use it here.
16:04 KikaRz loooool
16:05 KikaRz well
16:05 KikaRz going to start
16:05 VanessaE good luck
16:05 KikaRz the rocket launch countdown
16:05 KikaRz Language:
16:05 KikaRz Going to test... Venda
16:05 KikaRz '-'
16:05 KikaRz thats cute.
16:06 KikaRz .c 77-25
16:06 KikaRz ... no calculator bot
16:06 KikaRz ok, 52
16:06 KikaRz ill press the button: Start
16:06 KikaRz Noooo...
16:07 PilzAdam VanessaE, double attachment fixed
16:07 KikaRz Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO
16:07 KikaRz :'(
16:07 VanessaE double?
16:07 KikaRz VanessaE, tell me another one that is like Xubuntu
16:07 VanessaE KikaRz: try again.
16:07 VanessaE and the closest would be Lubuntu/LXDE.
16:08 VanessaE PilzAdam: updated.  I'll bbl.
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16:09 * devlab is glad he's not using *buntu
16:09 Calinou buntus FTW
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16:09 KikaRz devlab is stupid
16:09 KikaRz :P
16:09 Calinou devlab: too stupid to disable online searches?
16:10 KikaRz VanessaE, reason that i use wubi:
16:10 markveidemanis qqq.google.co.uk
16:10 KikaRz My CD/DVD driver is broken
16:10 markveidemanis www.google.co.uk
16:10 Calinou KikaRz: zerodiskinstall? :>
16:10 KikaRz ?
16:10 Calinou unetbootin + external HDD = frugal install
16:10 KikaRz no external disk / usb driver
16:10 Calinou (you need an external HDD though, or an unused internal HDD... not that cheap :P)
16:10 devlab Nope,  I'm on openSUSE,
16:11 KikaRz that sucks
16:11 Calinou opensuse is slow
16:11 devlab which? 12.2?
16:11 Calinou yep
16:11 Calinou gnome 3 is slow, opensuse takes a lot of time to boot
16:11 KikaRz VanessaE, i should use that? http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/
16:11 Calinou also, opensuse uses RPM packages, and is made by novell :3
16:11 devlab KDE,
16:11 Calinou KikaRz: of course you should!
16:11 Calinou KDE is even slower than unity/gnome 3
16:12 thexyz KikaRz: nope, here is correct URL http://www.gentoo.org/
16:12 moltenbot thexyz's link:
16:12 markveidemanis vanessae
16:12 KikaRz meh
16:12 Calinou KikaRz: if your computer supports 64 bit (CPU is from > 2005), make sure to use 64 bit iso
16:12 KikaRz shut up thexyz
16:12 markveidemanis VanessaE
16:12 KikaRz calinou, im not dumb
16:12 KikaRz and i cant use that
16:12 Calinou just saying
16:12 KikaRz reason: no wubi
16:12 Zeg9 Calinou, she has 512MB ram
16:12 Calinou too many people use 32 bit on 64 bit capable HW :|
16:12 markveidemanis Zeg9
16:13 markveidemanis plz help me find lagg source on server
16:13 Calinou markveidemanis: your connection?
16:13 Calinou see speedtest.net
16:13 rubenwardy bbcode installed
16:13 Calinou (you need flash)
16:13 thexyz KikaRz: sure
16:13 rubenwardy on Minetest Extension
16:13 rubenwardy s
16:13 Zeg9 Yeah, it s*cks we need flash on all speed test websites...
16:14 KikaRz going to try ubuntu
16:14 markveidemanis k
16:14 markveidemanis l]
16:14 Calinou KikaRz: xubuntu > ubuntu :P
16:14 KikaRz then sudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop
16:14 Calinou why would you do that?
16:14 KikaRz i should try lubuntu?
16:14 Zeg9 Why not xubuntu ?
16:15 KikaRz xubuntu is not working in Wubi
16:15 KikaRz ..
16:15 KikaRz +q  = ?
16:15 Zeg9 Just don't use wubi, resize your partition from the CD
16:15 Zeg9 and use grub
16:15 Calinou quiet
16:15 KikaRz Zeg9...
16:15 KikaRz Repeating:
16:15 Calinou wubi is slower, grub 2 works well on any computer, why not use it
16:15 KikaRz My CD/DVD driver is broken.
16:15 Calinou even on my computer which uses UEFI
16:15 Calinou of course there's the drive thing
16:15 KikaRz now, i have 5 min to decide
16:16 KikaRz Lubuntu, Mythbuntu, Edubuntu, Kubuntu or Ubuntu ?
16:16 Zeg9 Sorry, I forgot that. and no usb boot ? :/
16:16 KikaRz Nope
16:16 Calinou their computer is old, so no usb
16:16 KikaRz my pen drive is stupid
16:16 KikaRz Calinou, not the pc
16:16 KikaRz the pen drive
16:16 KikaRz is not compatible
16:16 KikaRz Help me deciding...
16:16 KikaRz Lubuntu, Mythbuntu, Edubuntu, Kubuntu or Ubuntu ?
16:16 Calinou (remember: some computers can only boot from one USB port, not all of them! my eeepc does that :P)
16:16 Zeg9 I'd choose ubuntu or lubuntu
16:16 KikaRz ok, going to use lubuntu
16:16 Calinou KikaRz: any pen drive (at least 1GB) is compatible.. even USB 1.1 ones
16:17 KikaRz Calinou, got a 4 GB one
16:17 Zeg9 edubuntu really contains a lot of software btw
16:17 KikaRz and dont works
16:17 KikaRz for that
16:17 Calinou lubuntu works good on old computers but lxde is really featureless
16:17 Calinou of course you can install xfce later
16:17 KikaRz lxde?
16:17 Calinou lubuntu uses lxde
16:17 KikaRz = ?
16:17 Calinou lightweight x desktop environment
16:17 KikaRz Oh!
16:17 KikaRz Good... i love light... the darkness its horrible
16:17 Calinou even lighter than xfce, though it's not feature candy at all
16:17 KikaRz yaaay!
16:17 KikaRz working :D
16:17 KikaRz its downloading
16:18 KikaRz 15 min
16:18 Calinou xfce has much more features, less bugs in general and more users, that's why i use it
16:18 KikaRz faster than ledxf ?
16:18 KikaRz or dlxf
16:18 KikaRz or fldx
16:18 KikaRz whatever.
16:18 Zeg9 lxde
16:18 KikaRz that.
16:19 Calinou it's heavier, though. but xfce is still lighter than kde/gnome/unity
16:19 KikaRz 10 min left.
16:19 Zeg9 You can just install lxde, and if you don't like, install another one with apt-get
16:19 Calinou xfce uses xfwm, which works in both compositing and non-compositing modes
16:19 Calinou you WANT to use non-compositing when you play games
16:19 VanessaE what what what!?  bbl = be back later.  jeez people.
16:19 Calinou lxde uses openbox as window manager, it does not support compositing
16:19 VanessaE markveidemanis, KikaRz what did you need?
16:19 markveidemanis KikaRz
16:19 Calinou but it's very lightweight
16:20 markveidemanis choose lubuntu
16:20 markveidemanis help me test my server, new mod
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16:22 KikaRz VanessaE, i need a good OS
16:22 KikaRz to put with dualboot with fuckwin.
16:22 PilzAdam write your own
16:22 KikaRz 7 min.
16:22 KikaRz PilzAdam, lets make one
16:23 KikaRz we all
16:23 KikaRz we 92 people :
16:23 KikaRz :)
16:23 Zeg9 MinetestOS
16:23 NakedFury use ubuntu if you dont like it switch to another crapbuntu
16:23 PilzAdam MinetestOS++
16:23 KikaRz i translate it.
16:23 KikaRz and make his design
16:23 KikaRz NakedFUry, cant use ubuntu
16:23 KikaRz 5 min left.
16:23 Zeg9 KikaRz, use arch XD
16:23 KikaRz that sucks :P
16:24 Zeg9 it is *really* easy to install
16:24 KikaRz WUBI?
16:24 Zeg9 No, command line.
16:24 Zeg9 pacstrap /mnt base base-devel
16:24 KikaRz Windows installation?
16:24 Zeg9 Nop
16:24 KikaRz so, i cant install it
16:24 Zeg9 yep
16:24 Zeg9 but, apart from ubuntu, I don't know any distro that can be installed from window$
16:24 KikaRz if ubuntu works with my favorite linux game.
16:25 KikaRz (you people guess what is?)
16:25 KikaRz ill love it
16:25 PilzAdam RoR?
16:25 PilzAdam Sauerbraten?
16:25 NakedFury minetest?
16:25 Zeg9 epiphany ?
16:25 Zeg9 (boulderdash clone)
16:25 NakedFury its minetest
16:25 Zeg9 supertux?
16:25 PilzAdam Super Tux {1,2}
16:25 KikaRz 2,5 min
16:25 Zeg9 hey adam my idea!
16:25 KikaRz YEP! Super Tux :D
16:26 Calinou <PilzAdam> Sauerbraten? < ftw
16:26 KikaRz Zeg9 discovered it
16:26 KikaRz ftw = ?
16:26 Calinou for the win
16:26 Calinou also, even more ftw, tesseract
16:26 Calinou https://github.com/lsalzman/tesseract
16:26 moltenbot Calinou's link: lsalzman/tesseract ? GitHub
16:26 Calinou ^ good benchmark :>
16:26 Calinou (sauerbraten with real time lights, deffered shading...)
16:27 Zeg9 was going to google it, found an ocr...
16:27 Calinou yep, some ocr program is called tesseract
16:27 KikaRz 1 min left.
16:27 Zeg9 Just install ubuntu, then switch to your favourite desktop.
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16:28 KikaRz Zeg9, shut up
16:28 Zeg9 meh
16:28 KikaRz its almost installed
16:28 Zeg9 Oh.
16:28 * Zeg9 is out,lol
16:29 KikaRz 40 sec
16:29 KikaRz 30
16:29 Zeg9 It can fail at 10 sec
16:29 KikaRz or not
16:29 KikaRz my computer loves me
16:29 KikaRz idk if he loves the linux
16:29 KikaRz 10
16:29 NakedFury 1 second left and the power goes out
16:29 KikaRz 2
16:30 KikaRz 1
16:30 KikaRz 0!
16:30 Zeg9 Was it downloading or actually installing?
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16:30 KikaRz OH FUCK? ANOTHER ISO TO DOWNLOAD?
16:30 markveidemanis lolololololo ol o o l o
16:30 Calinou why another iso?
16:30 Zeg9 I see you were only downloading wubi.
16:30 Zeg9 Then the iso will be downloaded, I guess
16:30 Calinou never used wubi, so i don't know :p
16:31 Zeg9 Some friend used it once
16:31 Zeg9 but I don't really remember...
16:31 markveidemanis Zeg9]
16:31 * PilzAdam used it
16:31 PilzAdam it downloads the ISO and then some packages
16:31 markveidemanis what is wubi
16:31 Zeg9 Install ubuntu from windwos
16:31 KikaRz not that
16:31 KikaRz Windows Ubuntu Binary Installer
16:32 Zeg9 Installs* I was saying what it did, but thanks for telling me what it ment x)
16:32 markveidemanis ??....
16:32 markveidemanis 16:31:50: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=3: failed to emerge player 16:31:52: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=3: failed to emerge player
16:32 markveidemanis help
16:32 KikaRz it might be... WUBD
16:32 Zeg9 mark, this is because my first connection failed.
16:32 KikaRz but it was too ugly for the ubuntu creators...
16:32 KikaRz so... its Wubi,
16:32 KikaRz D = Download
16:32 KikaRz I = Installer
16:32 KikaRz *Downloader
16:32 PilzAdam markveidemanis, it seems that it failed to emerge a new player
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16:32 KikaRz loool
16:32 markveidemanis why
16:32 Zeg9 And wubi doesn't only download...
16:33 Zeg9 PilzAdam, you help him a lot !
16:33 Zeg9 still laggy ...
16:33 KikaRz https://imo.im/
16:33 moltenbot KikaRz's link: imo instant messenger
16:33 Zeg9 Are you sure you enabled that swap?
16:33 KikaRz thats a good hookers messenger
16:33 KikaRz :P
16:33 KikaRz kidding
16:33 KikaRz thats a 10000 in one.
16:34 markveidemanis yep
16:34 markveidemanis said that i have 700 swap,
16:34 markveidemanis i hav 200
16:34 Zeg9 Then it's your connection now
16:34 Zeg9 /ping markveidemanis -_-
16:35 Zeg9 23 seconds
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16:35 KikaRz who got a mesecons server?
16:35 KikaRz Zeg9
16:35 KikaRz you got 0.20 seconds
16:37 KikaRz Love that thing
16:37 KikaRz https://imo.im/developers/api_basic_chat.html
16:38 Zeg9 o_o it has skype chat
16:38 KikaRz yea
16:38 KikaRz and steam
16:38 KikaRz https://imo.im/developers/api_tic_tac_toe.html
16:38 KikaRz i love that too
16:39 Zeg9 And he's willing to host a server :/
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16:44 KikaRz fucking 4 min left.
16:44 KikaRz if it downloads again the iso, ill cancel it
16:45 KikaRz and install ubuntu with that existant one
16:46 KikaRz .help
16:46 KikaRz !help
16:46 moltenbot Try !up <hostname.org> !teach <topic> !ping <hostname.org> [<port>] !date [timezone] !define <word> !joke
16:46 KikaRz !teach what is this for?
16:46 KikaRz '-'
16:46 KikaRz whats that for?
16:47 PilzAdam !teach server
16:47 KikaRz !teach server
16:47 KikaRz '-'
16:47 rubenwardy !joke
16:47 KikaRz !define minetest
16:47 moltenbot no definition found, try to use 'thinking'
16:47 KikaRz !define thinking
16:47 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: thinking definition: the action of using one's mind to produce thoughts.
16:47 rubenwardy "After taking a steroids test doctors informed rubenwardy  that he had tested positive. He laughed upon receiving this information, and said "of course my urine tested positive, what do you think they make steroids from?""
16:47 KikaRz idk whats that bot for
16:47 rubenwardy !joke
16:47 KikaRz hahahahha
16:48 KikaRz !joke
16:48 KikaRz "KikaRz  has a deep and abiding respect for human life... unless it gets in his way."
16:48 KikaRz 20 sec
16:48 rubenwardy rubenwardy  does not kick ass and take names. In fact, rubenwardy  kicks ass and assigns the corpse a number. It is currently recorded to be in the billions.
16:48 markveidemanis joined #minetest
16:48 rubenwardy "rubenwardy  does not wear a condom. Because there is no such thing as protection from rubenwardy"
16:49 KikaRz going to restart pc
16:49 KikaRz bye
16:49 KikaRz see ya in linux
16:49 KikaRz if not... see ya in heaven, my pc is dead.
16:49 rubenwardy "rubenwardy \' testicles do not produce sperm. They produce tiny white ninjas that recognize only one mission: seek and destroy."
16:49 rubenwardy wtf
16:49 rubenwardy !define me
16:49 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: also A historical region and former province of northwest France south of Normandy.
16:50 rubenwardy !define moltenbot
16:50 moltenbot no definition found, try to use 'thinking'
16:50 rubenwardy !define oldcoder
16:50 moltenbot no definition found, try to use 'thinking'
16:53 rubenwardy brb
16:55 Zeg9 brb
16:57 neko259 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3992
16:57 moltenbot neko259's link: Strange ABM problem again (Page 1) - Bugs and Problems - Minetest Forums
16:57 neko259 Please look at the question :)
16:57 PilzAdam neko259, the engine loops through all nodes in a chunk an calls ABM's
16:57 rubenwardy joined #minetest
16:57 neko259 So?
16:57 PilzAdam if you add a node is may be possible that an ABM is called directly after this
16:58 neko259 How can I get a workout around this?
16:58 neko259 *workaround
16:58 PilzAdam node_meta
16:58 PilzAdam you push some values into it and reset it with a node timer
16:59 neko259 Don't understand.
16:59 neko259 Can you point me to a link?
16:59 PilzAdam never seen this in code
17:00 PilzAdam when you place a block in an ABM you set a field in nodemeta (e.g. "placed")
17:00 PilzAdam if a abm is called you first check if "placed" exists
17:00 PilzAdam if it does you dont go further
17:01 neko259 Hmm, that's a nice idea.
17:01 neko259 Thanks!
17:01 PilzAdam after setting the "placed" in nodemeta you start a node timer to reset it after 1sec. or so
17:01 PilzAdam so it will be called in the next abm
17:01 neko259 Could you give me an example of a mod using node metadata? I haven't worked with it yet.
17:01 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/blob/bones/mods/bones/init.lua
17:01 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: minetest_game/mods/bones/init.lua at bones ? PilzAdam/minetest_game ? GitHub
17:02 PilzAdam you can also use the abm to reset the "placed" field
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17:06 Zeg9 So?
17:06 KikaRz not in linux.
17:06 Zeg9 That says all
17:06 KikaRz boot error
17:06 PilzAdam neko259, this may be *very* interesting for you: https://github.com/PilzAdam/wireworld/blob/master/init.lua#L49
17:06 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: wireworld/init.lua at master ? PilzAdam/wireworld ? GitHub
17:06 Zeg9 Just buy a new cd driver
17:07 Calinou better: buy a new computer, quit using very outdated hardware :facepalm:
17:07 neko259 Can I only set string to meta?
17:07 PilzAdam also int
17:08 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L625
17:08 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: minetest/doc/lua_api.txt at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
17:08 neko259 Thanks. You saved my mod and my server :D
17:09 KikaRz calinou and Zeg 9
17:09 KikaRz can you give me money to buy both?
17:09 Zeg9 ...
17:09 Calinou new computers usually have both 8) and if they don't, they can boot from USB
17:10 PilzAdam neko259, i just give you the idea; you still have to implement it in a useful way
17:10 KikaRz why i shouldnt install ubuntu 12.10?
17:10 neko259 Of course. But that bug was very old and sad.
17:11 Calinou because unity is slow :3
17:11 KikaRz i can disable it
17:11 Zeg9 KikaRz, I found cd read and write drive for less than 20€
17:11 Zeg9 wait
17:12 Calinou Zeg9: btw, the only *buntu that fits on a CD is lubuntu
17:12 Zeg9 or it is only write, that'd be weird though
17:12 Calinou x/k/ubuntu require a DVD
17:12 Zeg9 Calinou, that's only on the latest versions, then after the install you can upgrade (even if it can be buggy after...)
17:12 Calinou upgrading takes a lot of time, there is no point for using an older version
17:12 Calinou or you can use ubuntu-minimal, that works too
17:12 Zeg9 Using a CD
17:12 Zeg9 xD
17:12 Calinou or ubuntu-server
17:13 Calinou Zeg9: lubuntu 12.10 fits on a CD :P
17:13 Zeg9 Yeah, right, install ubuntu-server then you choose the desktop
17:13 Calinou though it's not beginner-friendly
17:13 KikaRz fuck that
17:13 KikaRz going to install ubuntu
17:13 iqualfragile it seems like Jordach likes jokes
17:13 john_minetest tinycorelinux fits on a piece of paper :D
17:13 KikaRz then, going to change view
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17:13 Jordach iqualfragile - didnt wish to spam the channel
17:14 Calinou KikaRz: yeah, but it only fits on a DVD/usb stick.. so you need to buy a dvd reader then :p
17:14 iqualfragile let me rethink my saying
17:14 Zeg9 iqualfragile, that's interesting, now I know that you log the bot
17:14 Calinou any recent disk reader is dvd of course anyway
17:14 KikaRz Calinou, WUBI
17:14 Calinou wubi is slower
17:14 iqualfragile it seems like Zeg9 Jordach and rubenwardy like jokes
17:14 KikaRz Calinou, only way to install it
17:14 Zeg9 I only read... huh
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17:14 Zeg9 Less than 10!
17:15 iqualfragile jordach has 117
17:15 Calinou KikaRz: if you don't have the money, try buying an used computer that can at least boot from USB... with better specs too
17:15 iqualfragile Zeg9: 8
17:16 Zeg9 Or just buy a $20 CD/DVD drive
17:16 KikaRz my brother was tricked
17:16 KikaRz when buying an used computer
17:16 KikaRz -.-
17:16 iqualfragile well, of cause i do log my bot, i have to find malfuncitons
17:16 KikaRz a Mac portable computer
17:16 KikaRz for 800 €
17:16 KikaRz used
17:16 KikaRz he was tricked
17:16 Jordach iqualfragile - i hoped the jokes passed turnings test :P
17:16 KikaRz and they robbed him the money
17:16 KikaRz in olx.pt
17:16 Jordach turings
17:17 Zeg9 brb
17:17 Calinou KikaRz: your fault if you buy apple hardware :3
17:17 KikaRz not me
17:17 KikaRz my brother
17:17 KikaRz (older)
17:17 Calinou also, buy from real places... not scams
17:18 Calinou any popular ecommerce platform should be fairly reliable
17:18 PilzAdam real places like the internet?
17:18 Calinou yeah :3
17:18 Calinou you'll never find used computers IRL
17:18 PilzAdam I see one in front of me
17:19 iqualfragile i have lots of them
17:19 Zeg9 apple is scam, even unused anyway...
17:19 iqualfragile about 15
17:19 Zeg9 I said something bad ? oooops
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17:21 Zeg9 So quiet
17:21 iqualfragile gota go
17:21 Zeg9 Okay, bye
17:21 PilzAdam bye
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17:26 TANKERx64 booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooobs
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17:26 Octupus hi
17:27 KikaRz ...
17:27 KikaRz TANKERx64, mine are big... but not for you you little bastard
17:27 KikaRz :p
17:28 KikaRz downloaded.
17:28 KikaRz if this dont works, ill kill pc
17:28 KikaRz PilzAdam
17:28 PilzAdam hm?
17:28 KikaRz Last Trying of Installing ubuntu
17:29 PilzAdam Millions before have done it before
17:32 KikaRz Extracting
17:32 KikaRz Expanding
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17:33 rubenwardy Minetest Extensions, redefined: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/
17:33 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Home- Minetest
17:34 KikaRz http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/
17:34 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Home- Minetest
17:40 KikaRz guys, if you see someone sending this link: nobrain.dk, please, report them. they sent you a spyware / impossible exit link (or mini web virus)
17:41 Zeg9 visiting, thanks for the link
17:41 Zeg9 omg
17:41 Calinou heh, .dk
17:41 Zeg9 it really works
17:41 Calinou Zeg9: why did you do this
17:41 Zeg9 ogm
17:42 Zeg9 omg*
17:42 Zeg9 This is a good reason for disabling javascript...
17:43 KikaRz hahaaha
17:43 KikaRz i said
17:43 KikaRz its: My Lazy Sundays
17:43 KikaRz 3 old mans taking a shower
17:43 KikaRz nude.
17:43 KikaRz xd
17:43 KikaRz chrome is able to exit from that side
17:43 KikaRz *site
17:44 Calinou chromium > chrome
17:44 NakedFury chrome >chromium
17:44 Zeg9 chromium > chrome
17:44 KikaRz gonna tell the truth.
17:44 KikaRz ei love hentai category of P*** sites.
17:44 KikaRz xd
17:44 KikaRz *hy
17:44 NakedFury chrome >chromium = truth
17:45 Zeg9 Well, chrome is better for tracking people
17:45 KikaRz *i
17:46 Calinou then you are an OA player
17:47 Zeg9 openarena?
17:47 Calinou yeah :p
17:50 KikaRz going to reboot pc to install ubuntu
17:50 KikaRz in 30 min im  back
17:50 KikaRz kisses
17:50 Calinou put xfce after installing it :p
17:50 Calinou bai
17:51 KikaRz its ubuntu, not xubuntu / kubuntu
17:51 Zeg9 ...
17:58 TANKERx64 kikarz: OH GOD
17:58 Octupus fucking homework so frigging hard
17:58 TANKERx64 xubuntu and kubuntu are ubuntu
17:59 TANKERx64 and all those 1 are debian
18:01 markveidemanis where is default player texture?
18:01 PilzAdam 3d or 2d?
18:02 Zeg9 /usr/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/default/character.png I think
18:02 Calinou TANKERx64: though they are incompatible :p
18:02 Calinou Zeg9: you can only change your skin in SP games, you can't force change skins in multiplayer (unlike textures)
18:02 TANKERx64 calinou what are you, st00pid?
18:02 Zeg9 /usr/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/default/textures/character.png I think
18:02 Zeg9 Calinou, there is a player_textures mod for the new one
18:02 Zeg9 by sdzen
18:02 Calinou TANKERx64: they are quite different in organization, and ubuntu packages rarely work on debian
18:03 Zeg9 I haven't tried it though
18:03 TANKERx64 calinou, i use them all the time, i thought u h8ted on linoox dawg
18:03 Calinou i don't
18:03 Zeg9 /usr/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/default/models/character.png finally
18:03 * Calinou is on linux
18:04 TANKERx64 So you admit that you're a linux fanboy!
18:04 Zeg9 Not a linux fanboy, a ms and apple hater
18:05 * marktraceur waves
18:06 TANKERx64 hi marktraceur
18:08 Zeg9 o_O
18:08 Zeg9 An item attached to a mob
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18:11 TANKERx64 sfan5 play feed the beast with me
18:11 TANKERx64 http://feed-the-beast.com/
18:11 moltenbot TANKERx64's link: Feed the Beast
18:11 Calinou lol
18:12 TANKERx64 It's really awesome
18:12 Calinou playing warsow right now
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18:13 Penguin Hi
18:14 babyface1031 hi Penguin
18:15 Calinou hi
18:15 Penguin babyface we need this mod on the server dont we http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804
18:15 moltenbot Penguin's link: [Modpack] Industry Pack 0.1.1 (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
18:18 Penguin babyface
18:23 TANKERx64 hi penguin
18:23 TANKERx64 hi babyfacemcgee
18:23 Penguin hi come on server ?
18:26 * Penguin
18:26 TANKERx64 what is ur server penguin
18:26 Penguin no octus ?
18:26 Penguin Or Wat Server you on ?
18:27 rubenwardy 0.4.4 is acting wierd on redcrab 0.4.4 server...
18:28 Penguin ?
18:29 Penguin ?
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18:31 markveidemanis hi
18:33 Zeg9 I have to go, bye!
18:33 markveidemanis noooooooo
18:33 TANKERx64 jeb put fireworks in minecraft
18:33 markveidemanis sooo?
18:33 markveidemanis we have fireworks2
18:33 markveidemanis i envy jeb
18:34 markveidemanis john_minetest:...
18:36 NakedFury never seen our fireworks
18:37 markveidemanis comeon my server, i show i
18:37 markveidemanis #u
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18:40 markveidemanis john_minetest??
18:42 OldCoder Hi
18:42 OldCoder <rubenwardy> !define oldcoder
18:42 OldCoder That is most likely a coder who is old
18:43 OldCoder This is a leap, of course
18:44 rubenwardy I assumed you made the bot
18:45 rubenwardy so would have told it to say something
18:46 OldCoder No
18:46 OldCoder that one belongs to iq* IIRC
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18:47 STHGOM john_minetest = AFK
18:48 markveidemanis STHGOM
18:48 STHGOM ?
18:50 RealBadAngel hi all
18:51 RealBadAngel lookin now at all craft recipes (testing UI)
18:51 PilzAdam hi RBA
18:51 RealBadAngel we do have some really weird ones
18:51 STHGOM Hello!
18:51 RealBadAngel for example there are two recipes for rails
18:51 RealBadAngel one gives 15 another one 16 pieces of rails
18:52 RealBadAngel same for ladder, one gives 1 and second 3
18:52 PilzAdam maybe mods add extra recipes
18:52 NakedFury remove the 1 ladder and 15 rails recipe
18:52 STHGOM how do you make a doped sillicon wafer on Zeg9's server?
18:53 PilzAdam 1 ladder and 15 rails are from default mod
18:53 RealBadAngel make mithril dust with grinder (out of mithril lumps)
18:54 NakedFury then what mod adds the other rails and ladders
18:54 RealBadAngel and put them with silicon waffers into alloy furnace
18:54 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hi
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18:55 RealBadAngel STHGOM, http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/viewmod.php?id=42
18:55 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: View mod - Technic - Minetest Extensions
18:55 STHGOM thanks
18:56 markveidemanis_ Jeija
18:56 Jeija markveidemanis_: ?
18:57 markveidemanis plz help with player textures mod
18:57 RealBadAngel and who added mese + cobble  to get mossy cobble? this one is strange really :)
18:57 Jeija just ask your question in this channel and someone will propably answer
18:57 NakedFury mese+cobble to make mossy? rubbish
18:58 markveidemanis plz help with player textures mod
18:58 markveidemanis plz help with player textures mod
18:58 markveidemanis jeija, why do mesecons lagg
18:58 markveidemanis fps drop when using wire and updating
18:58 RealBadAngel because they were born to lag everythin around ;)
18:58 Jeija Because your PC is slow??
18:59 markveidemanis :D
18:59 markveidemanis :(
18:59 markveidemanis yep
18:59 markveidemanis but..... 1.6 GHz
18:59 Jeija Maybe some old version?
18:59 RealBadAngel all mods that adds somethin require some more computing power
19:00 RealBadAngel more mods (and more complex) you need more power
19:00 markveidemanis irrlicht? spell right??
19:00 RealBadAngel yes, what about it?
19:00 markveidemanis just spelling
19:01 Jeija markveidemanis: You could set NEW_STYLE_WIRES = false in mesecons/settings.lua; may be faster
19:01 Jeija and delete those parts of the mod you don't use anyway
19:01 markveidemanis i use all
19:02 Jeija you actually use movestones?!?
19:02 markveidemanis maybe
19:02 markveidemanis come on my server, i will show
19:02 PilzAdam Jeija, why not move settings.lua to minetest.conf?
19:02 simion314 I noticed that mesecons (AND gate connected with 2 levers) is broken, it will not update when switches are off, in fact even the lever/switch is of the wire that connects it to the gate is stil powered
19:02 markveidemanis no ip, use "whois"
19:03 Jeija yeah simion314, I noticed that this afternoon, too; You can just update your version and It should be fine
19:03 markveidemanis jeija:86.172.250.244
19:03 RealBadAngel Jeija, what about vertical wires?
19:03 simion314 Jeija: cool,thx
19:04 Jeija I need to rewrite the whole core of mesecons
19:04 markveidemanis jeija:86.172.250.7
19:04 Jeija after that I can code vertical wires
19:04 Jeija https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/tree/mesecons_in_nodedef
19:04 moltenbot Jeija's link: Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons at mesecons_in_nodedef ? GitHub
19:05 Jeija Recoding the whole mod takes a long time... :(
19:06 simion314 Jeija: maybe you can code something like a Circuit class, and when you connect 2 wires those could be represented in the code as a single object then I think it will be easy to reason about the code
19:06 RealBadAngel Jeija, indeed, im doing the same to technic
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19:07 KikaRz Hi there people
19:07 KikaRz who can help me with the system ?
19:07 KikaRz how i change to Xubuntu by ubuntu'
19:07 KikaRz Im in XChat
19:07 Jeija simion314: oh no, please, no oop
19:07 KikaRz because i installed it
19:07 markveidemanis jeijs
19:08 markveidemanis jeija
19:08 KikaRz who can help me?
19:08 PilzAdam #ubuntu
19:08 KikaRz OldCoder?, VanessaE ?, someone?
19:08 simion314 Jeija: why not OOP the code will be easy to reason about,easy to read,
19:08 paxcoder what do you want?
19:08 KikaRz PilzAdam, ill dont go with that
19:09 Jeija *cough*, It is far easier right now
19:09 KikaRz that channel got just strange people that dont says anything about ubuntu. just money.
19:09 KikaRz paxcoder, how i install Xubuntu here? or the xfce interface or something?
19:09 KikaRz i hate unity. it lags my pc a lot
19:09 OldCoder KikaRz, Hi
19:09 PilzAdam dont go to #minetest; they arent talking about the game they are talking about strange OSs
19:09 KikaRz Hi OldCoder
19:10 KikaRz PilzAdam, i've been talking about this 1 hour ago
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19:10 KikaRz i was installing Ubuntu, and everyone talked about that
19:10 KikaRz and this OS isnt strange.
19:10 paxcoder install Debian unstable, and run with that
19:11 KikaRz paxcoder, no CD/DVD driver
19:11 KikaRz and no Flash compatibility of boot
19:11 paxcoder how did you install ubuntu?
19:11 simion314 Ubntu is my main OS for 6 years, and I do my Windows development in VM when I have too
19:11 KikaRz WUBI
19:12 paxcoder http://www.goodbye-windows.com/
19:12 moltenbot paxcoder's link: Hello Linux, Goodbye Windows!
19:13 KikaRz that is?
19:13 RealBadAngel lol, http://m.ocdn.eu/_m/a7b2af3efd77651d27a17e4970fef49b,62,1.jpg
19:13 KikaRz RealBadAngel
19:13 paxcoder KikaRz, After you gave me an abbreviation, I think a link is more than curtious
19:14 KikaRz that link is not to install by windows xp
19:14 KikaRz its from windows vista
19:14 paxcoder it's from multiple versions
19:14 paxcoder but i really meant this one: http://goodbye-microsoft.com/
19:14 moltenbot paxcoder's link: Say goodbye to Microsoft.  Now.
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19:16 KikaRz i need really much to change to 12.10 ? thats too horrible
19:16 KikaRz if i apt-get update, ill get problems because itll update my os
19:17 PilzAdam apt-get update doesnt update the OS
19:17 KikaRz no?
19:17 KikaRz cute
19:17 NakedFury http://goodbye-linux.com/
19:17 PilzAdam it just looks if new versions of your installed packages exist
19:17 RealBadAngel Jeija, why are you using slashes in your recipes? {recipe = {1 = {1 = "\"group:mesecon_conductor_craftable\"", 2 = "\"default:stone\""}}, output = "\"mesecons_button:button_off\" 2"}
19:17 paxcoder btw, our win32-loader's wikipedia entry is older than WUBI itself
19:18 KikaRz ok
19:18 PilzAdam NakedFury, nice
19:20 paxcoder NakedFury, if I were you, I'd be looking up the expression "being left behind in the dust" by now
19:21 khonkhortisan it's an odd effect when you start a video that's too loud at the same time as yawning
19:21 paxcoder but if you want, you can instead forever keep paying MS for the delusion of us being hipsters
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19:21 khonkhortisan Windows is a lying OS and without source code I can't fix it
19:21 NakedFury is that the linux motto? Linux "being left behind in the dust" [of windows. goes without saying]
19:21 OldCoder ?
19:21 PilzAdam paxcoder, you know that NakedFury's link is 404?
19:21 NakedFury yeah
19:22 paxcoder PilzAdam, hehe, symbolic, isn't it?
19:22 NakedFury fake link and I have ubuntu on my laptop
19:22 PilzAdam nobody wants to say goodbye to Linux
19:22 paxcoder NakedFury, progress!
19:22 khonkhortisan no, they just say goodbye to different distros
19:22 NakedFury well until windows keeps on being the os of choice for games I will keep using it
19:22 paxcoder PilzAdam, actually, I'm fine with pretty much any complete and free unix kernel
19:22 * PilzAdam has an XBox for that
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19:23 kaeza hi!
19:23 khonkhortisan hello
19:23 kaeza what's up?
19:23 KikaRz kaeza
19:23 KikaRz :)
19:23 KikaRz *-*
19:23 khonkhortisan trying an online video converter browser addon, no idea if it'll work
19:23 kaeza hey KikaRz
19:23 paxcoder Were BSD a microkernel, I'd perhaps switch to that.
19:24 paxcoder would still be on Debian though ;-)  [cf. Debian/kFreeBSD]
19:25 paxcoder *Debian GNU/kFreeBSD
19:25 kaeza brb. gonna use Chrome ;)
19:25 PilzAdam Google is evil
19:25 rubenwardy how to wave in 0.4.4
19:25 rubenwardy ?
19:25 kaeza PilzAdam: hello
19:25 kaeza why?
19:26 PilzAdam because it doesnt respect privacy
19:26 kaeza IE is more evil
19:26 STHGOM how do you make silicon wafers?
19:26 RealBadAngel sand + coal dust in alloy furnace
19:26 PilzAdam kaeza, why not use Firefox?
19:27 kaeza bogs down my comp :(
19:27 paxcoder kaeza, did you try it lately? it's pretty fast
19:27 khonkhortisan facebook is more evil
19:27 paxcoder and works better with many tabs
19:27 kaeza khonkhortisan: true
19:27 paxcoder anyone using Chromium on Debian?
19:27 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, sure, but Google is still evil
19:28 kaeza paxcoder: cHROME ON uBUNTU
19:28 kaeza fuck
19:28 paxcoder anyone using Chromium on Debian?
19:28 NakedFury why where the technic recipes removed from the forum page?
19:28 Matsetes paxcoder: not on Debian, sorry
19:28 RealBadAngel long story, they will be back
19:28 STHGOM thanks
19:28 kaeza brb
19:28 paxcoder Matsetes, whatcha running?
19:29 RealBadAngel NakedFury,  http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/viewmod.php?id=42
19:29 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: View mod - Technic - Minetest Extensions
19:29 Matsetes paxcoder: I'm running Abrowser on Trisquel
19:29 paxcoder Matsetes, I see Ubuntu nvm
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19:29 Matsetes paxcoder: not Ubuntu
19:29 kaeza back
19:29 paxcoder Matsetes, oh. rebranding failure. CTCP VER on you gives me xchat on Ubuntu
19:29 kaeza now on Chromium :)
19:30 paxcoder kaeza, try this link chrome://chrome/settings/
19:30 Matsetes paxcoder: Trisquel is based on Ubuntu, but it's a free distro
19:30 kaeza what about it?
19:30 kaeza it's the settings page
19:30 paxcoder tell me whether the checkbox is there at "search"
19:31 paxcoder Matsetes, I know about Trisquel
19:31 kaeza paxcoder: what for?
19:31 Matsetes paxcoder: Ok =)
19:31 paxcoder kaeza, if it's checked, they're probably still tracking you :-P
19:31 KikaRz got a lot of problems with ubuntu
19:31 kaeza I don't login
19:32 paxcoder kaeza, sorry?
19:32 kaeza and I don't see any "search" checkbox ticked either
19:32 * Jordach is heading out somewhere, you lot have a good <day/afternoon/night/evening>
19:33 paxcoder kaeza, alright, now see the expanding link on the bottom of the page?
19:33 paxcoder that's actually where the privacy settings are :-)
19:33 Calinou KikaRz: on top of that, since your GPU is old you can only use the open source drivers :/
19:34 Calinou (if it's AMD, if it's nvidia there might be a legacy driver available)
19:35 paxcoder Matsetes, how do you run Minetest on Trisquel
19:35 paxcoder HMMM!
19:35 paxcoder Matsetes, you need non-free firmware to use the free graphics card drivers
19:36 kaeza small update! http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3830
19:36 paxcoder afc
19:36 KikaRz '-'
19:36 moltenbot kaeza's link: [MOD] Computers (Decorative) [0.1.2] [computer] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
19:36 KikaRz i already tried to play minecraft... but minetest, never.
19:37 KikaRz minecraft works... but too slow, if i try to break / place blocks... it goes to menu
19:37 KikaRz like we pressed ESC
19:37 paxcoder KikaRz, what brings you here?
19:37 * paxcoder is obviously not afc yet
19:37 KikaRz paxcoder, playing.
19:37 paxcoder KikaRz, is it "join a random channel" type of game?
19:37 markveidemanis who will help me build a castle  on my server?
19:37 paxcoder marktraceur, your sister?
19:38 paxcoder * markveidemanis
19:38 paxcoder darnit autocomplete! again?
19:38 markveidemanis NO
19:38 KikaRz paxcoder, i'm here at 6 months ago
19:38 KikaRz so, if you dont know me... you are cute.
19:39 KikaRz reason: i'm a spammer (or not.) 8)
19:39 paxcoder KikaRz, you're a weirdo is what you are
19:39 KikaRz nope
19:39 KikaRz im a girl that writes very faster and dont thinks in what is going to write next
19:40 paxcoder oh, the "i'm a girl" excuse
19:41 paxcoder XD afc really now, later
19:41 hmmmm i'm a grill
19:41 Calinou i'm a bill
19:41 Calinou pay me please
19:41 mauvebic im wearing a girdle
19:41 hmmmm i'm grilling 2 steaks
19:42 kaeza i'm a mac
19:42 markveidemanis i'm a mill
19:43 KikaRz im a pill.
19:43 KikaRz 8D
19:44 KikaRz hey, guys, gnome 3 is good for ubuntu?
19:44 Calinou lol no!
19:44 Calinou xfce!
19:44 marktraceur KikaRz: I'd suggest LXDE
19:44 KikaRz how to install it?
19:44 NakedFury hey hmmm how goes your world generation project?
19:44 KikaRz marktraceur, Calinou, how to install it?
19:44 mauvebic catfish!
19:44 Calinou marktraceur: lxde lacks a lot of stuff... and it doesn't like my mouse wheel
19:44 Calinou sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
19:44 Calinou xfce has a lot of features, probably more than gnome 3 now 8)
19:44 KikaRz mauvebic, snorkle!
19:44 Calinou gnome 3 is for people who think removing reduce/maximize buttons is fun
19:44 KikaRz how to install xfce ?
19:45 hmmmm really good, but i am busy with exams and what not
19:45 mauvebic gnome 3 is for sadists
19:45 khonkhortisan even if you generated the whole world and wrote every mod there will still be someone on your server that thinks it's not yours
19:45 Calinou marktraceur: if your mouse is focused on a game then you try using mouse wheel, 1/5 of the time it will be ignored :/
19:45 Calinou I already tried lxde, and I prefer xfce too
19:45 hmmmm if you want really fast map generation, you can compile from my fork right now :D
19:45 Calinou KikaRz: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
19:45 hmmmm only one slight catch, everything's stone
19:45 Calinou it installs xfce, but with the xubuntu stuff (art, etc)
19:46 Calinou then when you log in you can change the de that will be used
19:46 markveidemanis who is an architect
19:46 KikaRz sry, i love habbo.
19:46 Calinou markveidemanis: /whois Architect
19:46 Calinou oh, he's not here
19:47 markveidemanis architect:occupation
19:47 KikaRz did i said habbo?
19:47 KikaRz i was saying transformice
19:47 markveidemanis i want to build a fortress/castle/mage tower
19:47 markveidemanis who can help
19:47 KikaRz me
19:47 markveidemanis ok
19:47 KikaRz if the minetest works in linux, ill help you
19:48 KikaRz if dont... ill need to reboot pc and go to windows
19:48 KikaRz :P
19:48 markveidemanis 86.172.250.7
19:48 KikaRz wait
19:48 KikaRz i need to compile minetest
19:48 KikaRz '-'
19:48 markveidemanis haha
19:48 markveidemanis want me to send u one i compiled
19:48 Calinou KikaRz: try my one line script :)http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3837
19:48 moltenbot Calinou's link: One-line script: installing/compiling Minetest git, Debian/Ubuntu/Mint (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
19:48 markveidemanis i also have linux
19:49 Calinou paste the whole line in a terminal, does everything for you
19:49 kaeza were any major changes in the game? or just some bug fixes?
19:49 Calinou kaeza:  http://minetest.net/news.php
19:49 moltenbot Calinou's link: News - Minetest
19:50 markveidemanis i'm gonna recompile
19:50 Calinou (i wrote the changelog btw :P)
19:50 hmmmm from 4.3 to 4.4?
19:50 hmmmm a lot of stuff was changed
19:50 Calinou 0.4.3* 0.4.4*
19:51 markveidemanis it works?
19:51 kaeza I had 0.4.4 from about three days ago
19:51 kaeza have*
19:52 markveidemanis KikaRz
19:52 markveidemanis help with castle/mage tower/fortress
19:52 markveidemanis look up sjin let's build on youtube
19:52 KikaRz o.o
19:52 kaeza also, is there a possibility to expose some network api from game to Lua?
19:53 KikaRz wait sht.
19:53 kaeza I wanted to ask c55, but don't know if he's here.
19:53 rubenwardy bye
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19:54 honeybadger Hi, I can't install/build minetest on my dedicated server running debian squeeze because it's only available in sid due to libstdc++6.
19:54 honeybadger I saw someone named JSonic had a build for debian and it was on c55.me, but it appears to be down
19:54 Calinou honeybadger: backport libstdc++?
19:54 honeybadger not available
19:55 Calinou no idea, I use xubuntu
19:55 honeybadger we also tried to do it through the ubuntu natty build, but it appears to be broken
19:55 Matsetes paxcoder: I use only free driver and firmware
19:55 Calinou the developer of the game (celeron55) uses debian stable, yet he can run the latest MT version just fine
19:55 Calinou Matsetes: you're still using internet, which uses tons of servers with firmware ;)
19:55 honeybadger Hmm..alright..maybe I need to do more research on this then
19:56 markveidemanis thexyz
19:56 Calinou honeybadger: ask on forums?
19:56 honeybadger I'll try that if I can't find it on google
19:56 honeybadger Is c55.me down for others too?
19:56 Matsetes Calinou: I cannot be able now to live only with free software
19:56 kaeza honeybadger: it seems so
19:57 KikaRz '-'
19:57 KikaRz fuck...
19:57 KikaRz so much time
19:57 KikaRz to i nstall xubuntu thing
19:57 kaeza KikaRz: try Puppy :)
19:57 Calinou yeah it's quite large
19:57 KikaRz kaeza, already tried
19:57 KikaRz sucks for me
19:58 Calinou Matsetes: well then, what's the point of using /only/ FOSS on your computer?
19:58 honeybadger thanks Calinou and kaeza, i'm going to go do more research now
19:58 kaeza honeybadger: np
19:59 kaeza KikaRz: how come?
19:59 KikaRz how what?
19:59 KikaRz its good
19:59 KikaRz but the graphics in game
19:59 KikaRz sucks
19:59 kaeza It's a Damn Small distro (do not confuse with Damn Small Linux)
19:59 Calinou noone uses puppy
19:59 Calinou i suggest not using distros noone uses
19:59 kaeza I do :)
19:59 Calinou linux is fragmented quite a lot...
19:59 Calinou no distro is perfect btw, stick with the downsides
20:00 kaeza well, I used a VirtualBoxed Puppy for my web server
20:00 kaeza pretty good for that
20:01 kaeza and for programming in general
20:01 KikaRz checking.,..
20:01 kaeza though mine had no OpenGL support for my card
20:01 KikaRz kaeza
20:01 KikaRz you using windows
20:01 kaeza yes?
20:01 kaeza yes
20:01 KikaRz -kaeza- VERSION qwebirc v0.91, copyright (C) 2008-2011 Chris Porter and the qwebirc project -- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1) AppleWebKit/537.11 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/23.0.1271.95 Safari/537.11
20:02 kaeza cause I don't have inet at home :(
20:02 KikaRz and?
20:02 KikaRz you can use a irc chat program
20:02 kaeza ...
20:02 kaeza not my comp
20:03 kaeza I'll prolly get killed if I installed one here
20:03 kaeza using webchat for now
20:04 kaeza KikaRz: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3830
20:04 moltenbot kaeza's link: [MOD] Computers (Decorative) [0.1.2] [computer] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
20:04 KikaRz can't now.
20:05 KikaRz no minetest,
20:05 kaeza k
20:05 KikaRz sudo apt-get install git-core build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev;git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git;cd minetest/games;git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game.git;cd ..;cmake .;cd src;make -j2;cd ../bin;./minetest;echo;echo "You can run Minetest again by double-clicking \"minetest\" in th
20:05 KikaRz e \"bin\" folder of the \"minetest\" folder in your home folder."
20:05 KikaRz going to compile it soon
20:05 kaeza ?
20:05 paxcoder Matsetes, you're using non-free firmware
20:06 Matsetes paxcoder: Where?
20:06 paxcoder Matsetes, there's no free firmware
20:06 paxcoder if you're using a Radeon card, the driver is free, but the firmware is not
20:06 paxcoder and it's not on the card
20:06 paxcoder you need to install it to use it
20:07 Matsetes paxcoder: I'm changing pc
20:07 KikaRz no problem, we crack it, then, no payed-for-it firmware.
20:07 paxcoder in Debian, it's in firmware-linux-nonfree
20:07 KikaRz he's using ubuntu
20:07 KikaRz not debian
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20:07 Aristide Hi !
20:07 Matsetes paxcoder: Soon I will have a little bit of freedom in plus
20:07 paxcoder KikaRz, you think all this time people didn't think of cracking it?
20:07 paxcoder KikaRz, he's using Trisquel
20:07 KikaRz Hi Aristide !
20:07 Aristide I need help, when I launch minetest, I get segmentation fault (I use KDE 4.9.90 - openSUSE 12.2)
20:07 paxcoder which is FSF-certified, unlike even Debian
20:08 paxcoder and certainly unlike Ubuntu
20:08 KikaRz Aristide, be sure that your drivers are the latest.
20:08 Aristide minetest was installed from opensuse official repository
20:08 Aristide KikaRz: My driver is Intel GM 45
20:08 KikaRz dont do that.
20:08 paxcoder Matsetes, sorry?
20:08 Aristide KikaRz: I don't know if its ok x)
20:08 KikaRz Aristide, compile it from the latest git.
20:08 KikaRz sudo apt-get install git-core build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev;git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git;cd minetest/games;git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game.git;cd ..;cmake .;cd src;make -j2;cd ../bin;./minetest;echo;echo "You can run Minetest again by double-clicking \"minetest\" in th
20:08 KikaRz e \"bin\" folder of the \"minetest\" folder in your home folder."
20:08 KikaRz just to help
20:08 RealBadAngel Aristide, and please provide error report
20:08 paxcoder Aristide, you have an Intel Core i3+ proc?
20:09 Aristide No dualcore CPU (Intel 2.3Ghz)
20:09 Aristide KikaRz: Ok
20:09 paxcoder Aristide, yeah, but what's its name?
20:09 Matsetes paxcoder: With the new pc I will have an Intel graphic card
20:09 paxcoder is it i3 or above?
20:09 KikaRz aristide, if you run that line in terminal, you get the minetest
20:09 KikaRz latest
20:09 paxcoder Matsetes, you mean an i3+ proc?
20:09 Aristide No is a simple CPU (not i3, i5 i7)... Simple dualcore CPU . I don't remember name
20:10 paxcoder Aristide, how are you using intel graphics then?
20:10 KikaRz Pentium 4?
20:10 KikaRz :P
20:10 Matsetes paxcoder: yes
20:10 Aristide KikaRz:  No x)
20:10 paxcoder Matsetes, that's cool. too expensive for me
20:10 KikaRz Aristide, vo'tre suis français?
20:10 Aristide paxcoder: ... Sorry but I don't understand question ...
20:10 paxcoder I'd have to change my board too etc. (AMD here)
20:11 Aristide KikaRz: Yes I speak French, but don't speak very good english
20:11 paxcoder Aristide, you said you were using intel graphics, didn't you?
20:11 Aristide *English
20:11 Matsetes paxcoder: Yes, a little bit, but not too much
20:11 Aristide Yes Intel GM45 on this computer
20:11 Matsetes Aristide: Si tu veux je sais parler français
20:11 paxcoder Matsetes, plus i really hope someone comes out with an ARM proc for my desktop in the near future
20:11 Matsetes paxcoder: Ok
20:12 Aristide I try to compile Minetest from git in opensuse x)
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20:12 Aristide I must translate package names and more ... Wait a moment
20:12 RealBadAngel this is the best eway
20:12 RealBadAngel *way
20:12 Aristide *on
20:13 paxcoder Aristide, oh, they have off-chip integrated graphics for laptops. Didn't know, but since all of their gfx drivers are free, duly noted if I buy a laptop some day.
20:13 paxcoder *off-CPU
20:14 paxcoder Aristide, i like your CTCP VER response, but it doesn't tell me what distro you're running XD
20:14 markveidemanis KikaRz
20:14 markveidemanis done?
20:14 Aristide paxcoder: I have already give Distro Name :/ openSUSE 12.2 ^^
20:14 paxcoder Aristide, and how are you satisfied with your intel graphics?
20:15 KikaRz markveidemanis, still installing xfce
20:15 KikaRz Aristid
20:15 markveidemanis ok
20:15 KikaRz you can play any opengl games?
20:15 Aristide Yes paxcoder I use Kwin effects and more x)
20:16 KikaRz it wasnt paxcoder, the opengl games asking
20:16 paxcoder Aristide, do you play any other, 3D accelerated games?
20:16 Aristide Yes Minecraft ^^
20:16 KikaRz THAT SUUUCKS!
20:16 KikaRz (reason: i cant play.)
20:16 paxcoder KikaRz, lolwut
20:16 KikaRz xd
20:16 kaeza Aristide: Accelerated gfx and java don't get very well together
20:17 KikaRz paxcoder, rule -4331,2424242.133 of minetest: Any Minecraft interconnections with minetest are extremely disallowed.
20:17 Aristide Wait I compiling minetest on my suse
20:17 kaeza KikaRz: lol
20:18 KikaRz _______________
20:18 KikaRz |       MINETEST       |
20:18 KikaRz ________________
20:18 KikaRz fail.
20:18 kaeza celeron55: PING :)
20:18 KikaRz Ping of celeron is 1.03 seconds
20:18 KikaRz lol
20:18 KikaRz 0.43
20:19 kaeza more like 4.3 days :)
20:20 KikaRz unpacking xubuntu things
20:22 KikaRz LOVE TAKATA *o*
20:23 KikaRz Aristide, you like watching MCM TOP / Pop?
20:23 Aristide I don't like tv x)
20:23 KikaRz thats music channels
20:23 Aristide MCM TOP / Pop ?
20:23 KikaRz :c
20:23 Aristide Don't know
20:23 KikaRz You from europe / France?
20:23 Aristide Yes
20:24 KikaRz MCM Top suis une channel pas musique / videos
20:24 KikaRz Pop = pop musique / videos
20:25 Aristide I don't watch TV
20:25 KikaRz start watching
20:26 Aristide I look in VLC
20:26 KikaRz Aristide, where place are you from france?
20:26 Aristide I live in Lyon
20:27 Aristide :3
20:27 KikaRz Lyon = city from?
20:27 Aristide Yes
20:27 KikaRz i love Lille :)
20:27 KikaRz and Paris...
20:27 KikaRz when i was in minecon...
20:28 KikaRz i went to Eiffel tower
20:28 Aristide Transport network is Paris and lille is bad :x
20:28 KikaRz *-*
20:28 markveidemanis KikaRz
20:28 KikaRz Lille = Atelier 801 place
20:28 KikaRz what markveidemanis?
20:28 KikaRz still installing stupid xfce
20:28 kaeza KikaRz: xfce will bog down your comp
20:29 KikaRz No kaeza.
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20:29 kaeza k
20:29 kaeza whatever
20:30 kaeza I'm outta here
20:30 kaeza c u l8r
20:30 KikaRz '-'
20:30 KikaRz __________
20:30 KikaRz |MINETEST|
20:30 KikaRz ''''''''''''
20:30 KikaRz :P
20:31 * Aristide slap KikaRz with a bus from Lyon
20:31 * KikaRz slaps Aristide intimal places with her laptop
20:31 KikaRz ;P
20:31 Aristide xD
20:31 KikaRz intimal places = i and . .
20:31 KikaRz xd
20:32 Aristide ^^
20:33 KikaRz what are you doing?
20:33 Aristide I try to compile minetest x)
20:33 Aristide But i have a error in 2nd git command x)
20:33 Aristide I try from scratch
20:34 KikaRz what git?
20:34 KikaRz git clone ... ?
20:34 Aristide Yeah
20:34 KikaRz you know working with github?
20:34 Aristide cd minetest/games
20:34 Aristide git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game.git
20:34 moltenbot Aristide's link: celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub
20:34 KikaRz ah
20:34 KikaRz try git://
20:34 Aristide ^^
20:34 Aristide Ok
20:34 Aristide But ...
20:34 KikaRz if dont works, try http://
20:34 Aristide Download rate is ... low \o/
20:35 KikaRz but what?
20:35 KikaRz lol
20:35 Aristide 35KiB/s  :(
20:35 Aristide From git
20:35 KikaRz you play super tux? :P
20:36 Aristide Super tux ? No
20:36 KikaRz xd
20:36 KikaRz try
20:36 KikaRz :)
20:36 Aristide supertux kart ?
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20:37 KikaRz non
20:37 KikaRz le super mario clone.
20:37 Aristide Ah ok
20:38 Aristide YEAH
20:38 Aristide Package « Supertux » exist :x
20:38 KikaRz yea qoi?
20:38 KikaRz *quoi?
20:38 KikaRz yep, thats super tux
20:38 KikaRz *-*
20:38 KikaRz love
20:39 Aristide Ok ... Now 2nd git command work ...
20:39 Aristide Hum ... OK
20:39 * Aristide continue
20:39 Aristide Sorry but Error while cmake http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/08/plasma-desktopg14022.png
20:40 KikaRz idk whats that
20:40 ruskie you're missing irrlicht
20:40 ruskie if I'm reading that right
20:41 KikaRz ruskie
20:41 KikaRz we are using that:
20:41 KikaRz sudo apt-get install git-core build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev;git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git;cd minetest/games;git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game.git;cd ..;cmake .;cd src;make -j2;cd ../bin;./minetest;echo;echo "You can run Minetest again by double-clicking \"minetest\" in th
20:41 KikaRz e \"bin\" folder of the \"minetest\" folder in your home folder."
20:41 Aristide Ok I check
20:41 KikaRz libirrlicht-dev
20:41 KikaRz its there
20:41 Aristide irrlicht-devel here :x
20:41 ruskie KikaRz, what about the libraries themselves?
20:41 Aristide Its ok I install package
20:41 ruskie dev are just the headers
20:41 KikaRz ruskie, that line was made by...
20:41 KikaRz forgot.
20:41 Aristide Its done :D
20:41 Aristide \o/
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20:42 KikaRz aristide
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20:42 KikaRz what you installed?
20:42 KikaRz irrlicht-devel ?
20:42 Aristide KikaRz: irrlicht-devel yes
20:42 KikaRz ok
20:43 Aristide YEAH Its work ^^
20:43 KikaRz working correctly?
20:43 KikaRz *_*
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20:43 KikaRz now, good game :)
20:43 Aristide But is not finish :D
20:43 Aristide 27% ^^
20:43 KikaRz ah
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20:44 KikaRz im in cmake
20:45 Aristide make -j2 ^^
20:46 KikaRz git.
20:47 KikaRz irrlicht-dev
20:47 Aristide But its .... long :( http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/08/plasma-desktopN14022.png :(
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20:48 KikaRz http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/08/plasma-desktopN14022.png
20:48 KikaRz bot not working
20:48 KikaRz http://google.pt
20:48 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Google
20:48 Aristide Hm ...
20:51 KikaRz Aristide... florian.
20:51 Aristide Yes ?
20:51 KikaRz your name florian?
20:51 KikaRz :P
20:51 Aristide Yes ^^
20:51 KikaRz search:
20:51 KikaRz The Wanted - Glad you Came
20:51 KikaRz *-*
20:51 Aristide x)
20:51 KikaRz good music
20:51 KikaRz and Takata
20:51 KikaRz :)
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20:52 Aristide Segmentation fault :x
20:52 KikaRz when?
20:52 KikaRz screen shot plz
20:52 Aristide Oh no
20:52 Aristide Its ok
20:53 Aristide I have forget ./ x)
20:53 KikaRz its working?
20:53 KikaRz xd
20:53 Aristide Yeah
20:53 KikaRz yay, i did 1 good thing today
20:53 KikaRz *-*
20:53 KikaRz now, test singleplayer
20:53 KikaRz if its laggy.
20:53 KikaRz try multiplayer
20:53 STHGOM bye
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20:55 KikaRz bye STHGOM
20:55 KikaRz Aristide
20:55 KikaRz your pc is stupid. :P
20:56 Aristide HM ....
20:56 Aristide http://i.imgur.com/fOnI4.png :(
20:57 KikaRz reason:
20:57 KikaRz my pc was going good
20:57 KikaRz git clone https:// works
20:57 Aristide Yes but not game :(
20:58 PilzAdam Aristide, have you tried different dirvers?
20:58 PilzAdam *drivers
20:58 Aristide Driver ? Graphic card driver ?
20:58 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L100
20:58 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: minetest/minetest.conf.example at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
21:00 Aristide florian@neuhneuh:~/minetest/minetest/games> git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L100
21:00 moltenbot Aristide's link: minetest/minetest.conf.example at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
21:00 Aristide Cloning into 'minetest.conf.example#L100'...
21:00 Aristide fatal: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L100/info/refs not valid: is this a git repository?
21:00 moltenbot Aristide's link: minetest/minetest.conf.example at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
21:00 Aristide ><$
21:00 PilzAdam ehm, why do you try to clone this?
21:01 KikaRz loooooool
21:01 KikaRz not to clone
21:01 Aristide 21:59:53] <PilzAdam> https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L100
21:01 KikaRz its to you
21:01 moltenbot Aristide's link: minetest/minetest.conf.example at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
21:01 Aristide :(
21:01 KikaRz enter there
21:01 KikaRz '-'
21:01 * Aristide don't understand ...
21:01 berome joined #minetest
21:01 KikaRz by the browser
21:01 KikaRz xd
21:02 KikaRz enter here
21:02 KikaRz https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L100
21:02 KikaRz by the browser
21:02 KikaRz not to clone
21:02 moltenbot KikaRz's link: minetest/minetest.conf.example at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
21:03 * OldCoder is headed for Bacon Burgers and Chicken right now. Ie is not a vegan today. It is time to eat meat.
21:03 Aristide Oh ok !
21:03 KikaRz In the minetest.conf
21:03 KikaRz just use
21:03 KikaRz one of that
21:03 KikaRz # Possible values: null, software, burningsvideo, direct3d8, direct3d9, opengl
21:03 KikaRz #video_driver = opengl
21:03 KikaRz PilzAdam, what i should use if opengl is slow?
21:04 PilzAdam are you on Linux?
21:04 KikaRz yep
21:04 PilzAdam then use Opengl
21:04 KikaRz d3d dont works with linux
21:04 KikaRz so...
21:04 KikaRz opengl will get slow
21:04 KikaRz and Aristide is in linux too
21:04 KikaRz so...
21:04 PilzAdam you cant use anything else than OpenGL in Linux
21:04 KikaRz he dont have any more choice.
21:04 KikaRz just null, software, burningsvideo or opengl
21:04 KikaRz 21% compiled...
21:04 RealBadAngel are you both using propertiary drivers for your video cards?
21:05 KikaRz i guess i got legacy drivers
21:05 berome Good apetite OldCoder, sorry, i had scorched your pseudo on forum.
21:05 KikaRz in the ubuntu thing
21:05 KikaRz Bon apetit.
21:05 OldCoder berome ? But all right. KikaRz k
21:05 OldCoder t y
21:05 KikaRz np
21:05 KikaRz *.*
21:05 OldCoder Scorched pseudo?
21:05 OldCoder :-)
21:05 KikaRz we got a french here *-*
21:05 RealBadAngel when using nvidia or ati cards you should install propertiarty drivers
21:05 KikaRz Aristide is from Franc
21:05 KikaRz Aristide is from France*
21:06 RealBadAngel to get 3d acceleration
21:06 KikaRz 25 % compiled
21:07 berome KikaRz: yes sometimes....
21:07 Aristide KikaRz: I remove # at video_driver = opengl ?
21:07 KikaRz My drivers:
21:07 KikaRz http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1646166
21:07 moltenbot KikaRz's link: [SOLVED] installing GeForce2 MX/MX 400 ubuntu  10.10 - Ubuntu Forums
21:07 KikaRz yes Aristide
21:07 Aristide Ok
21:07 Aristide I have test opengl, software, same problem
21:08 Aristide So minetest.conf.example was renamed in minetest.conf ^^
21:08 KikaRz now...
21:08 KikaRz how i install that 96.43.19  ?
21:08 KikaRz Aristide...
21:08 KikaRz no
21:08 KikaRz You shall create another minetest.conf one!
21:09 KikaRz not renaming minetest.conf.example
21:09 Aristide Ok
21:10 KikaRz Guys, idk if this will work with my graphics card:
21:10 KikaRz 1. download this driver ( http://www.sendspace.com/file/n79rwg ) and put it to your home directory (for example: /home/air-t/nv.run)
21:10 KikaRz 2. i go to ubuntu app center and install Nvidia X.ORG (version 185) driver.
21:10 KikaRz 3. ater install i reboot my computer and ubuntu starts in console mode without graphic and other modes
21:10 KikaRz 4. login as root and type (sudo sh nv.run) go step by step ... and OMG .. all installed without errors!
21:10 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Download nvidia_geforce2_driver.run from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way
21:10 KikaRz 5. after install you must reboot and enjoy. All resolutions and OpenGL
21:10 Aristide Ok same problem ><
21:10 KikaRz what problem?
21:10 KikaRz just install your official drivers
21:10 Aristide I don't have Nvidia Card ...
21:11 Aristide My Graphic card is a Intel GM 45 ... With official drivers
21:11 Aristide This problem http://i.imgur.com/Ky6Je.png x) Again
21:12 KikaRz i know that your isnt a nvidia. but install your intel gm 45 propertiarty drivers.
21:12 Aristide ...
21:13 Aristide Intel driver are free
21:13 Aristide and opensource x)
21:13 KikaRz aaah!
21:13 KikaRz just make that
21:13 KikaRz idk if this is right
21:13 KikaRz screen_x = 800
21:14 KikaRz screen_y = 600
21:14 Aristide oO' Ok
21:14 KikaRz or something
21:14 KikaRz wait
21:14 KikaRz not that
21:15 KikaRz screenH = 800
21:15 KikaRz no
21:15 KikaRz screenW = 800
21:15 KikaRz screenH = 600
21:15 Aristide Ok
21:15 KikaRz thats right
21:15 Aristide I remove screen_x and y  ?
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21:15 PilzAdam KikaRz, adding the default settings to minetest.conf doesnt change anything
21:15 KikaRz ...
21:15 KikaRz so, how to solve that prblem?
21:15 KikaRz ...
21:15 PilzAdam not like this
21:16 Aristide Don't work again
21:16 KikaRz http://i.imgur.com/Ky6Je.png
21:16 KikaRz 43 % compiled...
21:17 Aristide Ok
21:17 Aristide Resize window solve problem
21:17 berome Aristide: we are talking about your mac platform, or linux ?
21:17 Aristide x) Linux
21:17 Aristide but its work now
21:17 Aristide So, I don't have mac =x
21:17 berome ok, good news, what is it ?
21:17 berome mac=me no more
21:18 KikaRz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXTFFUz1L-k&amp;list=UUshoKvlZGZ20rVgazZp5vnQ&amp;index=1
21:18 moltenbot KikaRz's link: So... What Happened To Minecraft Style? - YouTube
21:18 KikaRz celeron55 claimed it and blocked to every country
21:18 KikaRz :P
21:18 Aristide I use Linux (openSUSE 12.2 with KDE 4.9.90), and problem was solved with resizing window =D
21:18 * Aristide go play with minetest
21:18 KikaRz LOL
21:18 KikaRz ok
21:19 KikaRz very laggy?
21:19 KikaRz or not?
21:19 KikaRz hey
21:19 KikaRz how i install flash player by terminal?
21:19 Aristide I check wait x)
21:19 berome :-)
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21:19 Aristide Game don't lag
21:19 berome salut Zeg
21:19 KikaRz LOL
21:19 KikaRz zeg is offline
21:19 berome tant pis .....
21:19 Aristide ...
21:20 Aristide Bien fait
21:20 KikaRz lol
21:20 KikaRz Aristide
21:20 KikaRz how i install flash player
21:20 berome ? bien fait ?
21:20 KikaRz by apt get?
21:20 Aristide Sorry KikaRz but I don't know Ubuntu / Debian
21:21 KikaRz apt-get flash ?
21:21 KikaRz flashplayer ?
21:21 KikaRz PilzAdam ?
21:21 Aristide Google \o/
21:21 * Aristide run away
21:21 berome no find the script wich do install for you. lol.
21:21 berome you don't no that?
21:21 PilzAdam KikaRz, flashplugin-installer
21:21 KikaRz and?
21:21 KikaRz just that?
21:22 berome LOL
21:22 berome try enter
21:22 berome ? no more verbose ?
21:23 berome ok, bye.
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21:25 marktraceur So
21:25 marktraceur 0.4.4 running on my server and my client
21:25 Muadtralk joined #minetest
21:25 marktraceur Do I also need a mod for player textures?
21:26 Aristide cmd: Linux neuhneuh.com 3.7.0-rc6-5-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Nov 27 14:10:39 UTC 2012 (f8c5dde) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
21:26 Aristide \o/
21:26 PilzAdam marktraceur, you need the player textures mod to have different textures for players
21:27 marktraceur PilzAdam: I mean, 3D textures
21:27 KikaRz PilzAdam
21:27 KikaRz flashplugin-installer is invalid
21:27 marktraceur KikaRz: gnash
21:27 KikaRz that is?
21:27 PilzAdam KikaRz, what distro are you on?
21:28 marktraceur KikaRz: apt-get install gnash
21:28 MiJyn marktraceur, you kidding?
21:28 marktraceur MiJyn: Why would I be?
21:29 KikaRz that is ?
21:29 KikaRz gnash is ???
21:29 KikaRz PilzAdam, Ubuntu 12.04.1 LST
21:29 marktraceur KikaRz: run apt-cache show gnash
21:29 PilzAdam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnash
21:29 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Gnash - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
21:29 KikaRz ...
21:29 KikaRz .define Gnash
21:29 KikaRz WHAT IS GNASH?
21:29 KikaRz SOMEONE TELL ME
21:30 marktraceur KikaRz: It's a gorram flash player, would you listen to the people who are answering you?
21:30 PilzAdam KikaRz, i gave you a link...
21:30 KikaRz cant enter wikipedia
21:30 marktraceur KikaRz: Why not?
21:31 KikaRz compiling minetest
21:31 KikaRz it lags my pc
21:31 MiJyn marktraceur, does it even work? Never did for me
21:31 marktraceur Ah.
21:31 marktraceur MiJyn: I don't think I've tried it recently. Will do so now.
21:33 KikaRz 84%
21:33 marktraceur KikaRz: This is not a place to post your progress bar status.
21:35 KikaRz you so bad with me :'(
21:35 * KikaRz is crying
21:35 PilzAdam Minetest takes 20 sec. to compile for me
21:35 KikaRz RAM and processor?
21:36 marktraceur KikaRz: Don't take it personally, just learn from the experience how you should act in an IRC channel.
21:36 MiJyn PilzAdam, well yeah, if you only have one source to compile lol
21:36 MiJyn and if you use -j4 in make
21:36 MiJyn or -j8
21:36 PilzAdam KikaRz, 4GB and Inte Core i7 with 8 cores @ 2.39 GHz
21:36 PilzAdam *2.93
21:36 PilzAdam I use -j16
21:37 PilzAdam *Intel
21:37 KikaRz i got pentium 4 and 512 MB Ram
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21:38 marktraceur PilzAdam: Sorry, did you say that the 3D player textures were a mod? I don't think I caught it.
21:39 TANKERx64 how do i make an entity have a nodebox in the latest release?
21:39 TANKERx64 and can i make an entity use a blender model?
21:39 PilzAdam same as the release before
21:39 PilzAdam to use blender see player.lua in default mod as an example
21:39 Muadtralk to use seperate textures per user you need a mod
21:40 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3587
21:40 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: [Mod] Different textures for players [player_textures] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
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21:41 KikaRz 94
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21:43 TANKERx64 I think i'm going to try to make a smoother carts mod
21:43 john_minetest the carts mod is quite smooth.
21:44 KikaRz 99 +--*
21:44 PilzAdam TANKERx64, have you tried carts 2.0?
21:44 TANKERx64 where is it?
21:44 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/tree/carts_2.0
21:44 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: PilzAdam/carts at carts_2.0 ? GitHub
21:45 KikaRz 100 *-*
21:48 jordan4ibanez why doesn't the 2.0 use attachment?
21:50 PilzAdam it does
21:50 jordan4ibanez wtf, i think i'm using the wrong version
21:50 jordan4ibanez where is the download for that?
21:51 jordan4ibanez there is no download on the github page, could you send me it?
21:51 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/archive/carts_2.0.zip
21:52 PilzAdam added to forum topic
21:52 KikaRz jordan4ibanez... im... im... (me fells asleep)
21:52 jordan4ibanez kikarz, what?
21:52 KikaRz im so happy to see you
21:52 KikaRz *-*
21:52 KikaRz Linking CXX executable ../bin/minetest
21:53 KikaRz (my compiling is frozen at that)
21:53 PilzAdam its actually linking and not compiling
21:53 jordan4ibanez lol
21:54 KikaRz or that
21:54 KikaRz LOL
21:54 KikaRz my game run
21:54 KikaRz ran
21:54 jordan4ibanez oh wow, carts feel much smoother
21:54 KikaRz like dafuq
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21:55 KikaRz let me test minetest
21:56 KikaRz OMG
21:56 KikaRz THANK YOU GUYS!
21:56 KikaRz Minetest running smootly
21:56 KikaRz (problem is that stupid shaders bug
21:57 jordan4ibanez disable shaders
21:57 PilzAdam its not a bug
21:57 KikaRz game is running without lag
21:57 PilzAdam oh, im wrong, its a hardware bug: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_bug
21:57 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Software bug - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
21:57 KikaRz already disabled
21:58 jordan4ibanez disable minetest
21:58 KikaRz ??
21:58 KikaRz minetest?
21:58 PilzAdam by video_driver = null in minetest.conf
21:58 PilzAdam ?
21:58 KikaRz hey, on the first time, its normal if the Creating Server is there at much time ago?
21:58 KikaRz going to build my big mansion
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22:05 PilzAdam gtg now; bye
22:06 KikaRz Well,
22:06 KikaRz People...
22:06 KikaRz I got an announcement for you all
22:06 KikaRz for now... ill join Linux teams.
22:06 KikaRz BYE FUCKING WINDOWS THAT SUCKS MY DAD'S PENIS...
22:06 KikaRz HI NEW GENERATION OF LINUX BEST OS EVER!
22:07 KikaRz you guys convinced me to change to linux, now, here i am
22:07 KikaRz VanessaE, can you send me your server ip?
22:07 john_minetest Suggestion: "Epic Win" is now "Epic Lin" because Linux is best.
22:07 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 port 30000
22:07 KikaRz VanessaE
22:07 KikaRz going to test
22:07 VanessaE olk
22:07 KikaRz the Linux in servers...
22:07 VanessaE ok
22:08 KikaRz :), thank you for telling me the best to do
22:08 VanessaE sure you do a benchmark of your video device, make sure it works like it should
22:08 VanessaE be sure*
22:08 KikaRz nope, he dont works like it should
22:08 VanessaE well ok
22:08 KikaRz it works like it shouldnt.
22:08 KikaRz like: SPEEDY GONZALEZ!
22:08 VanessaE lol
22:08 VanessaE you already ran the game in simpleplayer to good effect?
22:08 KikaRz yea!
22:09 VanessaE excellent.
22:09 KikaRz if i break a block
22:09 KikaRz its instantly
22:09 VanessaE toldyaso :-)
22:09 john_minetest I can't join 24.181.193.82 port 30000
22:09 OldCoder Back
22:09 VanessaE john_minetest: why not?>
22:09 KikaRz hey
22:09 KikaRz where is bin folder?
22:09 john_minetest it says "Connecting to server... but nothing more
22:09 VanessaE you sure you typed it right?
22:10 KikaRz vanessaE,
22:10 KikaRz where is bin folder?
22:10 VanessaE KikaRz: how did you install it?
22:10 KikaRz i dont find it
22:10 john_minetest oh, sry. typo :D
22:10 KikaRz sending you the forum link
22:10 VanessaE did you use a package?  did you build it yourself?  a PPA?  nightlies?
22:10 KikaRz of that mega line
22:10 KikaRz i built it myself
22:10 VanessaE ok
22:10 VanessaE -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0  or  =1 ?
22:10 KikaRz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3837
22:10 moltenbot KikaRz's link: One-line script: installing/compiling Minetest git, Debian/Ubuntu/Mint (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
22:10 KikaRz nothing of that
22:10 KikaRz make -j2
22:11 VanessaE hm
22:11 VanessaE interesting that that command doesn't set the run-in-place variable.
22:11 VanessaE how do you start the game?
22:11 VanessaE do you just type "minetest" and hit enter in a terminal?
22:11 VanessaE oh duh, right there:~/minetest/bin
22:12 VanessaE ~ means "my home directory"
22:12 VanessaE e.g. /home/kikarz/minetest/bin
22:12 KikaRz where is it :'(
22:12 VanessaE (and /home/kikarz/.minetest/ with that period there is where worlds, configs, mods, etc are stored)
22:12 KikaRz wait
22:12 KikaRz let me type in terminal
22:12 KikaRz love Kubuntu
22:12 VanessaE john_minetest: you seem to be online okay?
22:13 KikaRz joao@ubuntu:~/minetest$ ls
22:13 KikaRz builtin  CMakeLists.txt  minetest.conf.example  old         src
22:13 KikaRz client   doc             misc                   po          textures
22:13 KikaRz cmake    games           mods                   README.txt  util
22:13 KikaRz thats what is only in folder
22:13 john_minetest VanessaE: yes, i am on the server now
22:13 KikaRz i cant find minetest or minetestserver
22:14 KikaRz i had to force pc to shutdown
22:14 VanessaE ok, that's your build directory.   It looks like it never built.
22:14 KikaRz my pc was slow
22:14 VanessaE there shoulda been a 'bin' in there too.
22:14 KikaRz VanessaE
22:14 KikaRz to that options in that one line build
22:14 KikaRz i should add more ?
22:14 KikaRz -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 ?
22:15 VanessaE KikaRz: no...  something just feels wrong about the way it's been run..
22:15 VanessaE do this:
22:15 VanessaE which minetest
22:15 VanessaE in a terminal
22:15 KikaRz where is minetest ?
22:15 VanessaE just type that.
22:15 VanessaE "which minetest"
22:15 VanessaE the system will look for it for a sec and then tell you where it is, if it exists.
22:15 KikaRz typed.
22:16 VanessaE hit enter.
22:16 VanessaE any response?
22:16 KikaRz no
22:16 KikaRz joao@ubuntu:~/minetest$ which minetest
22:16 KikaRz joao@ubuntu:~/minetest$
22:16 VanessaE ok, you're either using a run-in-place build or you never actually compiled it.
22:16 KikaRz going to make it again
22:16 VanessaE try the line Calinou gives in that forum post.
22:16 KikaRz already
22:16 KikaRz i used that line
22:16 VanessaE use it again
22:16 KikaRz to compile it
22:16 KikaRz then, when it finished...
22:16 VanessaE and pastebil the entire output from it
22:16 KikaRz it just opened gam
22:16 VanessaE pastebin*
22:16 KikaRz *game
22:17 KikaRz going
22:17 KikaRz warning: my linux is in portuguese
22:17 VanessaE s'ok
22:17 VanessaE I'll muddle through
22:17 VanessaE google translate ftw :-)
22:18 KikaRz Cloning into 'minetest'
22:18 jordan4ibanez THIS GON BE GOOD
22:18 VanessaE KikaRz: pastebin it.
22:18 KikaRz what jordan4ibanez?
22:18 KikaRz wait
22:18 VanessaE when it's done, copy&paste the entire process from the first command to the end of the terminal into a pastebin service.
22:19 jordan4ibanez NUTTIN
22:19 KikaRz ok
22:19 KikaRz frozen in Receiving files: 99%
22:19 KikaRz *objects
22:19 KikaRz ah
22:19 KikaRz its walking a bit more
22:20 KikaRz omg, i cant believe that i have to compile it all again
22:21 KikaRz hey, kubuntu is minus laggy.
22:21 VanessaE you never compiled it fully :-)
22:21 KikaRz ...
22:21 KikaRz omg
22:21 KikaRz Pressed Ctrl + C
22:21 KikaRz thats the fucking bad thing of linux
22:21 KikaRz sudo apt-get install git-core build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev;git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git;cd minetest/games;git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game.git;cd ..;cmake .;cd src;make -j2;cd ../bin;./minetest;echo;echo "You can run Minetest again by double-clicking \"minetest\" in t
22:21 KikaRz he \"bin\" folder of the \"minetest\" folder in your home folder."
22:22 KikaRz FAIL
22:22 KikaRz not that
22:22 VanessaE KikaRz: make -j2
22:22 VanessaE that's how you resume
22:22 KikaRz 4%
22:22 KikaRz this will take 30 min
22:22 KikaRz i guess
22:22 KikaRz x_x
22:22 VanessaE naw, probably closer to 2-3 mins
22:22 KikaRz Pentiun 4 and 512 mb RAM
22:23 VanessaE and btw, Ctrl-C is a good thing - you'll need that from time to time to cancel stuff.
22:23 KikaRz why they had to get the shortcut to Ctrl + C ?
22:23 KikaRz ...
22:23 KikaRz thats a bit bad to copy things
22:24 KikaRz hey, when my game launches
22:24 VanessaE it's been that way since the early days of Unix and even DOS.
22:24 KikaRz at the end of compiling,
22:24 KikaRz i may close it?
22:24 KikaRz or leave it open a bit?
22:24 VanessaE Ctrl-break sends the same code as Ctrl-C.
22:24 VanessaE you can go ahead and run it, but before you do, go to a new terminal and `ls minetest`
22:24 john_minetest VanessaE: the sound of the music players on your server don't work
22:25 KikaRz vanessaE removed them
22:25 VanessaE john_minetest: they depend on technic+ambiance, which I do not have,
22:25 KikaRz because its too much thing to download
22:25 KikaRz 25 %
22:25 VanessaE john_minetest: those are a MASSIVE download
22:25 KikaRz VanessaE, go to query plz
22:25 john_minetest VanessaE: nearly thought this
22:35 VanessaE OldCoder:  my house has been built.  come see:  24.181.193.82 port 30000
22:35 VanessaE john_minetest: eh?
22:36 KikaRz 60%
22:37 KikaRz VanessaE, your server got mesecons?
22:37 VanessaE yes
22:37 VanessaE but don't abuse it
22:37 KikaRz i love that mod
22:37 KikaRz it has pistons ? (your version?)
22:37 VanessaE yep
22:37 KikaRz cool
22:37 KikaRz going to make a machine
22:37 KikaRz can i ?
22:42 KikaRz VanessaE
22:42 KikaRz Send me a message with my name
22:42 VanessaE sure, as long as you don't plaster it all over the spawn or something
22:42 VanessaE use the area near that creeper maybe
22:42 KikaRz Send me plz
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22:43 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: Blogs | Quassel IRC
22:43 KikaRz can you send me again?
22:44 OldCoder VanessaE, Is it 0.4.4 ?
22:45 OldCoder Your house I'll adore
22:45 VanessaE yes
22:45 OldCoder Can you duplicate in one of my worlds?
22:45 KikaRz vanessaE, can you send me a message with my name?
22:45 * VanessaE pokes at KikaRz for signs of life
22:45 KikaRz 68
22:45 KikaRz wait
22:45 KikaRz send again
22:46 * VanessaE pokes at KikaRz for signs of life
22:46 KikaRz no beep.
22:46 KikaRz send again please
22:47 VanessaE KikaRz: ***BEEP!!!!!!!!***
22:47 VanessaE :)
22:47 KikaRz no beep.
22:47 KikaRz x_x'
22:47 KikaRz send in private
22:52 KikaRz VanessaE, send me message in Private and see what it says
22:52 VanessaE [12-08 17:52] * [KikaRz] is away (AWAY since %H:%M:%S )
22:52 KikaRz then, tell me what it says
22:52 KikaRz LOL
22:52 KikaRz %H:%M:%S
22:52 KikaRz xd
22:52 KikaRz it was supposed to tell the hours
22:53 KikaRz VanessaE, got a problem.
22:53 KikaRz Minetestserver was linked but...
22:53 VanessaE what?
22:53 KikaRz dont appear in bin
22:53 VanessaE wait it out.
22:53 KikaRz hey
22:54 KikaRz look at this
22:54 KikaRz Private:
22:54 VanessaE it won't be added until it's "installed". I think.
22:54 VanessaE maybe not, I dunno
22:55 Muadtralk minetestserver is for squares
22:55 Muadtralk :P
22:55 Muadtralk minetest -server is happening
23:10 STHGOM bye
23:11 VanessaE brb
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23:17 arm44 Muadtralk, fork off and die!
23:17 Muadtralk hmm?
23:18 arm44 you fork('minetestserver'); then you die(0);
23:18 arm44 darnit
23:18 arm44 fork, load minetest server, then die
23:19 arm44 i forgot the command to load X_X
23:20 arm44 execve
23:21 arm44 the fork does that, that is
23:21 arm44 no reply = no fun
23:22 Muadtralk sorry if I am being a kill joy
23:33 * VanessaE waits for OldCoder to sign on already,,,
23:33 VanessaE (also, I'm back0
23:35 OldCoder Hi!
23:36 OldCoder I have been back for 90 minutes
23:36 OldCoder Sorry if that was not clear
23:36 VanessaE well sign on dammit :-)
23:36 OldCoder VanessaE, what's up?
23:36 OldCoder Oh!
23:36 OldCoder I can't. Thought that was clear. I don't have 0.4.4.
23:36 OldCoder I asked you if you could copy the house...
23:36 OldCoder to one of my worlds?
23:36 OldCoder If not; then I will build a 0.4.4 client
23:37 OldCoder Probably tomorrow
23:37 VanessaE you can sign on with 0.4.3 also
23:37 OldCoder How?
23:37 OldCoder Protocol is different
23:37 VanessaE but you won't be able to do anything aside from looking around
23:37 VanessaE protocol is the same.
23:37 OldCoder Then I will try
23:37 VanessaE c55 fixed that bug.
23:37 OldCoder Sure?
23:37 OldCoder k
23:37 VanessaE mmhmm, as long as your 0.4.3 is the last of that series.
23:38 OldCoder En route
23:38 VanessaE I see you :-)
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23:41 KikaRz VanessaE, not going to use DRUN IN PLACE.
23:41 KikaRz when the compilation finishes, it adds there the bin
23:41 KikaRz and the files
23:41 KikaRz i've tested.
23:42 KikaRz DRUN in place made my pc crash many times
23:47 VanessaE OldCoder: oops, crashed.
23:47 OldCoder It is nice
23:47 VanessaE kika:  -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1  will *not* make your machine crash.
23:47 OldCoder I got a screenshot
23:47 OldCoder VanessaE, this is your real house?
23:47 VanessaE OldCoder: lemme see it - I don't know what it looks like with default textures.
23:47 KikaRz YES IT DID
23:47 KikaRz MY computer started being unresponsive
23:47 OldCoder I will post
23:47 KikaRz then: Poof. Cant move mouse / write anything with keyboard
23:48 VanessaE OldCoder: yes, except the interior as seen on the server is a little different - some remodeling will be done and this is what it will look like when done
23:48 VanessaE KikaRz: that wasn't RUN_IN_PLACE that did it
23:48 VanessaE somethign else did
23:49 KikaRz omg
23:49 VanessaE KikaRz: more likely it was your video driver being stupid - this happens sometimes on some linux installs because the graphic card manufacturers are stupid :-)
23:49 KikaRz hate when linux gets unresponsive
23:49 VanessaE just as it does on windows.
23:49 VanessaE you really should get a new video card.
23:49 KikaRz ... NOT THE FUCKING VIDEO CARD SHIT!
23:49 KikaRz ITS THE COMPUTER
23:49 OldCoder http://minetest.org/newhouse.png
23:49 OldCoder VanessaE, ^ link
23:49 KikaRz I HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THIS COMPTUER.
23:50 VanessaE OldCoder: yup, looks about right to me :-)
23:50 OldCoder It is good
23:51 OldCoder Consider letting me have a copy of this world
23:51 OldCoder I collect entire worlds
23:51 VanessaE sure, of course.  stand by and I will upload it.
23:51 VanessaE server going down for a few mins.
23:52 KikaRz away ... sleeping
23:53 KikaRz ill leave my computer compiling minetest
23:53 VanessaE ok
23:53 KikaRz GRR, only thing that i hate in Xubuntu... its that bar
23:53 VanessaE what bar?
23:53 KikaRz bottoom of screen
23:53 VanessaE KikaRz: you can customize it like crazy if you want
23:53 VanessaE make it smaller, remove it, move it, change what's on it.
23:54 VanessaE it's quite flexible.
23:54 VanessaE I put my popup launcher at the top and a regular "taskbar-style" panel at the bottom where it belongs
23:54 VanessaE customized what's on them, changed their colors, autohide...
23:55 KikaRz mine is red
23:55 KikaRz ok
23:55 KikaRz bye
23:55 KikaRz kisses
23:55 KikaRz 21 % compiled
23:56 KikaRz VanessaE
23:56 VanessaE server is back up.
23:56 KikaRz you were right
23:56 KikaRz problem of lag
23:56 KikaRz was:
23:56 KikaRz -j4
23:56 KikaRz now i did this:
23:56 KikaRz cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1
23:56 KikaRz make
23:56 KikaRz (without parameters)
23:56 KikaRz now its not lagging
23:56 VanessaE <yiddish accent>  See?  You didn't vas beliefink me! </yiddish>
23:56 VanessaE :-)
23:57 VanessaE OldCoder:  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/My_World_server.zip
23:57 KikaRz <portuguese>que linguagem é essa? </portuguese>
23:57 KikaRz VanessaE
23:57 KikaRz why this ubuntu is so laggy?
23:58 VanessaE define "laggy".
23:58 KikaRz !define laggy
23:58 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: lag definition: one that lags or is last.
23:58 KikaRz LOL
23:58 VanessaE KikaRz: YOUR definition of it you schmuck :-)
23:58 KikaRz !define m
23:58 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: also m The symbol for the Roman numeral 1,000.
23:58 KikaRz !define me
23:58 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: also A historical region and former province of northwest France south of Normandy.
23:58 KikaRz LOL
23:59 KikaRz !define VanessaE
23:59 moltenbot no definition found, try to use 'thinking'
23:59 KikaRz bot has no words to describe you
23:59 KikaRz !define KikaRz
23:59 moltenbot no definition found, try to use 'thinking'
23:59 KikaRz for me neither *_*
23:59 KikaRz well
23:59 KikaRz bye
23:59 KikaRz kisses
23:59 VanessaE KikaRz: in Minetest, lag means that the map generator is slow to load, or the machine is subject to occasional, temporary freezes.  Lag does NOT mean low fps.

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