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00:01 berome bye !
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00:05 mauvebic multi-dimensional worlds
00:14 STHGOM I don't like time-outs :(
00:15 mauvebic time outs... lots of media?
00:16 STHGOM like when you do something nauty and you need a time-out :(
00:16 mauvebic got kicked?
00:17 STHGOM no
00:18 mauvebic youre gonna have to be specific where i am its past happy hour
00:19 STHGOM ?
00:19 mauvebic nevermind lol
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00:21 VanessaE bbl
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00:23 STHGOM Hello!
00:23 NekoGloop my. foot. hurts. like. hell.
00:23 NekoGloop lol MC mods: http://ompldr.org/vZ2xocQ
00:24 STHGOM anyone here babe223?
00:25 NekoGloop VanessaE: you here?
00:28 marktraceur NekoGloop: You mean disenfranchising developers makes for hackish solutions? :P
00:28 marktraceur News to me!
00:29 NekoGloop marktraceur: You mean someone maintains an actual API for minecraft to have mods?
00:29 NekoGloop Not news to me, tis called MCForge.
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00:59 STHGOM I lost "the game"
01:02 marktraceur STHGOM: Sorry to hear that. Will you be demanding a rematch?
01:02 STHGOM naa...
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01:08 khonkhortisan STHGOM, http://xkcd.com/391/
01:09 STHGOM ?
01:10 marktraceur STHGOM: That's called a URI. You can use it to access a resource on the Internet. Try copying and pasting it into a web brower!
01:10 STHGOM I didn't mean that
01:12 STHGOM what is THAT?
01:12 khonkhortisan you are free from The Game
01:12 khonkhortisan You lose the game by thinking about it, then go back to winning it by thinking about how you are free from it
01:13 STHGOM hmm...
01:13 marktraceur STHGOM: XKCD is a web comic written by Randall Munroe. Common topics include free software, Wikipedia, and programming humour.
01:13 STHGOM I play the game that if you hear someone say "moo" you win!
01:20 * STHGOM is bored again
01:21 mauvebic start a fire
01:21 * STHGOM want john_minetest to get on even though its 2:30 AM where he is
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01:22 NekoGloop what the bloody hell happened to youtube?!
01:22 STHGOM ka-BLOOOOIEEEEEEE!!!!!!
01:23 STHGOM 8D
01:23 NekoGloop www.youtube.com <- notice something off?
01:24 khonkhortisan no
01:24 NekoGloop wat
01:24 khonkhortisan looks normal to me
01:24 khonkhortisan YouTube has its regular logo
01:25 khonkhortisan videos on the right, subscriptions in the center/left
01:25 STHGOM lol I dont use youtube that often
01:25 khonkhortisan I don't use social networking, yet I'm here
01:25 * STHGOM is going to BLEND!!!
01:26 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZ2xpNw Earlier this morning, it did NOT look like this..
01:26 khonkhortisan looks like gmail
01:26 khonkhortisan mine still has a dark theme on the left side
01:27 NekoGloop gmail layout can fuck itself
01:28 khonkhortisan maybe it's chrome's fault
01:28 NekoGloop and i cant fucking change it back
01:30 khonkhortisan yuck. It's definately chrome's fault
01:30 khonkhortisan there's a send feedback button in the corner
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01:31 khonkhortisan oh yeah I think I went through this before
01:39 NekoGloop my. foot. hurts. like. hell.
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02:11 STHGOM *YAWN
02:12 STHGOM hmmmm...
02:13 NekoGloop go have some icecream
02:13 STHGOM 8D
02:14 STHGOM is anyone here an Amatur radio operator?
02:14 NekoGloop no.
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02:30 STHGOM hi
02:30 STHGOM I can't get my alloy furnace to work.
02:31 NekoGloop try putting something in it
02:34 STHGOM i did
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02:53 STHGOM bye
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03:12 jordan4ibanez Why doesn't the player's arm use the player's arm texture with a drawtype the same as the arm?
03:12 jordan4ibanez like _minecraft_ lol
03:13 NekoGloop Lol.
03:13 NekoGloop You just answered your own question.
03:14 jordan4ibanez No, i mean, that is a feasable thing, and it would be quite nice
03:14 jordan4ibanez you're just being a mucksmacking dung ringer
03:14 NekoGloop A... What?
03:14 jordan4ibanez Who knows
03:16 bulletrulz i got banned for saying fuck on ububntu irc lol
03:17 Muadtralk quickly bulletrulz cussed! let us ban him for such vulgarity! Think of the children!
03:17 Muadtralk sometinhg like that?
03:17 bulletrulz lol
03:17 bulletrulz yea
03:17 NekoGloop What children?
03:17 NekoGloop </hypocrite>
03:19 NekoGloop Quick and random japanese lesson of the day: Kuro means black, Shiro means white, and ShiroKuro means monochrome.
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03:24 bulletrulz lol
03:25 NakedFury what about Kuroshiro?
03:26 NekoGloop Same meaning, different way of saying.
03:26 NakedFury sounds better for me
03:28 NekoGloop ShiroKuro sounds better with a japanese accent and spoken, while KuroShiro sounds better with midwest accents and written.
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03:35 NakedFury what a coincidence. im watching an anime with a character called Shiro and another called Kuro
03:36 NakedFury it also has a cat woman called Neko
03:36 NekoGloop XD
03:36 NakedFury yep evil weird coincidence
03:36 NekoGloop There's a singer called 96neko, who is called kuroneko :3
03:36 NekoGloop Black Cat :3
03:38 NakedFury Kuronekoshiro
03:38 NekoGloop Black cat white?
03:38 NekoGloop Wat?
03:38 NakedFury dont trnaslate to english and it sounds nice
03:38 NekoGloop KuroNeko is a good singer btw. Look her up.
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03:50 MiJyn why does Muadtralk always list those names?
03:53 jordan4ibanez Because those are the people he's going to lick
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03:57 jordan4ibanez i _thinklkjoelandceleron55andeveryoneelse_ that shaders need to be turned off by default because of the st0o0o0o0o0o0onew players that are using 0.4.4
04:01 jordan4ibanez What is a chinchow anyway
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04:26 mrtux goodnight
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06:18 Calinou hi
06:18 Calinou it snows here :D
06:21 ecube lucky you... :(
06:21 Calinou be happy, in 2011 here there was no snow at all
06:21 ecube GIVE MEH DEH SNOW
06:21 Calinou france decided to behave in minecraft-beta-1.8 mode :p
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06:27 Calinou WTF, second time I try downloading the windows build for 0.4.4
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07:15 markveidemanis HI
07:18 markveidemanis hi
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09:09 Jordach wassup
09:10 Garp see ya.
09:10 Jordach morning OldCoder
09:12 Jordach anyone here right now?
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09:34 Aqua_ Hello on my phone
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10:06 brobostigon good morning everyone,
10:07 john_minetest hi
10:07 brobostigon hi john_minetest
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10:29 OldCoder Hi
10:29 OldCoder Good night
10:32 brobostigon hi OldCoder
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11:25 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
12:04 john_minetest hi
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13:02 celeron55 would there be anyone to contribute to the main minetest website if i implementede the existing site in django and put it on github for further development?
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13:28 artur99 hi
13:32 artur99 oldcoder!
13:32 artur99 rba!
13:32 artur99 is enybody?
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13:41 artur99 do oldcoder have on his site cache for 0.4.4?
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13:42 artur99 do oldcoder have on his site cache for 0.4.4?
13:46 john_minetest celeron55: maybe i could contribute...
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13:52 markveidemanis hi
13:55 john_minetest hi
13:58 markveidemanis can i speak to programmer/modder?
13:59 celeron55 artur99: you can probably use the same cache package for 0.4.4 too; it'll just download the small missing bits
13:59 markveidemanis how can i boost fps, what can i do in the minetest.conf?
14:00 celeron55 what hardware?
14:00 celeron55 if 0.4.4 is slow compared to 0.4.3, just unselect the "shaders" checkbox in the settings tab
14:01 celeron55 other than that, there are mo magic tricks
14:01 celeron55 no*
14:02 celeron55 oh, and disable fancy leaves and 3d clouds in the same place
14:02 markveidemanis i unselected it, any more ways? do the other options like smooth lighting effect the framerate?
14:02 celeron55 or is it called "fancy trees"
14:02 markveidemanis well, u made it :)
14:02 celeron55 it has a very tiny effect, not really noticeable
14:03 markveidemanis do some of the options speed up the fps
14:03 celeron55 fancy trees has much effect in forests
14:03 markveidemanis sounds?
14:05 markveidemanis would sounds affect, the framerate
14:06 markveidemanis affect or effect?
14:08 celeron55 they shouldn't
14:08 markveidemanis do the new 3d players affect it
14:08 markveidemanis effect or affect
14:10 john_minetest 3d players slow down a bit afaik
14:11 PilzAdam in singleplayer the player's model isnt rendered
14:11 markveidemanis can i disable them
14:11 redcrab wow .... 0.4.3 client works with 0.4.4 dev server that's cool :D
14:11 markveidemanis i run a server (you might have heard :)
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14:12 markveidemanis what about clouds
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14:19 artur99 i just downloaded the mesecond mod
14:19 artur99 how to rename it
14:19 artur99 ?
14:22 artur99 i just downloaded the mesecond mod
14:22 artur99 how to rename it?
14:22 john_minetest how is it called now?
14:23 john_minetest you have to have the folder "mesecons" with all the components inside.
14:24 artur99 i have a folder named:
14:24 artur99 Jeija-minetest-mod-mesecons-7542dd4
14:25 artur99 ?
14:25 artur99 should i rename it in „mesecons”
14:25 john_minetest what is inside? folders like "mesecons_walllever"?
14:27 PilzAdam you dont have to rename the mesecon mod folder because its a modpack
14:27 artur99 the folder contain 29 folders and 3 files
14:32 john_minetest okay. rename it to "mesecons". that's what i did. maybe you don't have to but short folder names are nice :D
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15:01 davidpace Nobody talking O_o
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15:03 celeron55 minetest-0.4.4-win32.zip downloaded 484 times so far 8)
15:03 RealBadAngel hello minetest
15:04 PilzAdam hi RealBadAngel
15:04 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, ive encountered a problem with your change, i mean using groups in recipes
15:05 PilzAdam VanessaE already told me
15:05 RealBadAngel for wood all is ok, but stone is just overdid
15:05 PilzAdam there should be some change in the API so you specify the rating in crafting recipes
15:05 PilzAdam stone 1 = stone; 2 = cobble
15:06 RealBadAngel not really
15:06 PilzAdam something like "group:stone 2"
15:06 RealBadAngel obsidian, marble, etc are stone
15:06 RealBadAngel would you like to have furnace made out obsidian?
15:07 RealBadAngel maybe you would like to have obsidain pick, but not the same durability as made of regular stone
15:08 RealBadAngel another reason to not use group stone is fact cobble you can dig, smooth stone you have to cook
15:09 PilzAdam is obsidian really in group stone?
15:09 RealBadAngel could be
15:09 RealBadAngel but now there is no point to add it here
15:09 PilzAdam I was thinking about support for biomes while adding the groups
15:10 RealBadAngel yeah, for wood its good
15:10 RealBadAngel so you can use all the types of wood in recipes
15:10 RealBadAngel but stones shall not be treated the same way as wood
15:11 john_minetest maybe you should make a "tool" group
15:11 PilzAdam ehm
15:11 john_minetest so every material from the "tool" group can be used for tools
15:11 PilzAdam this would produce the same tool for every material
15:12 john_minetest you are right...
15:12 RealBadAngel stones are way different
15:12 celeron55 hmm, didn't i add some kind of AND operator to be used in the recipes
15:12 celeron55 furance could be made from something that has the group stone and... something
15:12 RealBadAngel and imho cannot be used in groups for craftin recipes
15:13 RealBadAngel take oridary stone and compare it to granite for example
15:13 PilzAdam celeron55, there is no hint in lua-api.txt
15:13 celeron55 see the init.lua of wool (in minetest_game)
15:14 celeron55 recipe = {'group:dye,'..craft_color_group, 'wool:white'},
15:14 RealBadAngel one you can find when you take a walk, for second you have to pay thousands
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15:15 RealBadAngel hi Taoki
15:17 RealBadAngel celeron55, i was thinkin about edit boxes and enter problem. maybe introduce just two different ones same as with buttons? edit_box and edit_box_exit?
15:18 RealBadAngel exit one when completed sends and quits
15:18 RealBadAngel regular, sends, lose focus, stays in formspec
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15:20 RealBadAngel no need to define actions then
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15:22 RealBadAngel exit ones will be usable in simple, sign like formspecs,other in more complex forsmpec constructions
15:25 celeron55 RealBadAngel: except that you are once again breaking compatibility
15:25 celeron55 RealBadAngel: if it's done that way, they need to be edit_box and edit_box_noexit
15:27 celeron55 or umm... wut
15:27 celeron55 why would you add an edit_box_exit, as it is the same as field is now?
15:31 celeron55 (of course smoebody could do research for seeing if changing the behavior of label would affect mods in practice)
15:31 celeron55 eh
15:31 celeron55 field
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15:34 RealBadAngel celeron55, so lets leave old one with non changed behiavour
15:34 RealBadAngel and add new one
15:35 RealBadAngel i just thought bout keepin the namin _exit and regular as with buttons
15:36 RealBadAngel when i leave it intact and and _nonextit one
15:37 RealBadAngel it would look just stupid. button, exit_button, and edit box and edit_box_nonexit
15:38 RealBadAngel its inconsistency
15:39 RealBadAngel exits one shall be specific instance of regular one
15:40 RealBadAngel about the compability, i wont break anythin with the change in fact
15:41 RealBadAngel when using regular one when modder wanted to have exit one
15:41 RealBadAngel user will be just forced to press enter twice instead of once
15:42 RealBadAngel then eventually with time modder can change method hes using
15:43 RealBadAngel but nothing shall be broken
15:48 RealBadAngel heh, and we of course talkin bout current so called "field" method
15:50 RealBadAngel so field and field_exit
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15:51 RealBadAngel why the heck some1 named edit boxes "field" name :)
15:51 Jordach blegh
15:51 Jordach hello all
15:51 RealBadAngel hi Jordach
15:52 Jordach did you test my variant drills?
15:52 RealBadAngel not yet, just got back from work, bout hour ago
15:52 Jordach sweet deal
15:52 RealBadAngel today i was informed i will be promoted
15:52 RealBadAngel officialy
15:53 Jordach awesome
15:53 RealBadAngel more responsibilities but more money too
15:53 * Jordach hates motion sickness
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15:56 RealBadAngel but now instead of listenin to some1, what i shall do with the production
15:56 RealBadAngel i will be plannin it and lettin the crew what to do exactly
15:57 RealBadAngel i think some folks workin there much longer than i not gonna like it ;)
15:58 RealBadAngel some are workin there for 10+ years
15:58 RealBadAngel and i after 2 months gonna become a chef of them all
16:00 Jordach chef? you work the ovens and pans?
16:00 RealBadAngel lol
16:01 RealBadAngel typo :P
16:01 RealBadAngel chief
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16:13 Calinou 1.6 second lag to irc, ISP you're so pro at throttling
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16:16 TheRedMood Hello :)
16:16 TheRedMood Long time no see
16:16 TheRedMood I see the website is updated :D
16:17 Jordach hey TheRedMood
16:17 TheRedMood Hello :)
16:18 * Jordach has been working one some more songs, just not published then
16:18 Jordach them*
16:18 TheRedMood O_O
16:18 TheRedMood GIVE ME THEM!
16:18 TheRedMood D:<
16:19 Jordach i hate slow rendering
16:19 Jordach (i always use 320kbps
16:19 Jordach )
16:21 RealBadAngel TheRedMood, http://realbadangel.pl/technic_ambience.zip
16:21 RealBadAngel here you have nine others ;)
16:23 TheRedMood Nice :)
16:24 TheRedMood But there are a øpt ,pre tjam kist 1 jere
16:24 TheRedMood there are a lot more than just 9 here
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16:26 RealBadAngel those are made by skaven
16:29 TheRedMood About to try out super meat boy on linux :)
16:30 Calinou yey, paid game
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16:31 TheRedMood Yesh ;)
16:31 TheRedMood Humle bundle
16:31 TheRedMood That and braid
16:31 TheRedMood And bastion
16:31 Calinou i wouldn't buy the HIB, even for $0.01
16:32 Calinou not only these games are proprietary (not the biggest issue), they also have short "lifetime"
16:32 Calinou any game that is SP only has a short lifetime
16:32 TheRedMood I think games like braid
16:32 TheRedMood bastion
16:32 TheRedMood Are shorts gems
16:32 Calinou not worth the $0.01 still
16:33 TheRedMood That made my life much better ;)
16:33 TheRedMood I think they are
16:33 TheRedMood By a far shot.
16:33 Jordach Calinou - its called p2p and .torrent ;)
16:33 Calinou p2p is overrated, and piracy is bad
16:34 TheRedMood Well, then there is no way around is there?
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16:34 TheRedMood :)
16:34 TheRedMood Reality is that people need to make money
16:34 Calinou other than a fallback solution, p2p is inefficient
16:34 Calinou TheRedMood: they are allowed to make money, but they are not allowed to get some of my money
16:36 Jordach <Calinou> TheRedMood: they are allowed to make money, but they are not allowed to get some of my money == 0 IRL monies in Calinou's bank
16:36 Calinou no u
16:36 * Calinou has give privilege in IRL
16:36 Calinou -in
16:37 Jordach if (Calinous_BANK > 0) cout <<
16:37 Jordach "<Calinou> no u";
16:37 marktraceur Jordach: Some of us, though we have money, choose to give it to people and businesses who respect us in return.
16:38 Jordach i know marktraceur - thought i might counter him with brains
16:38 marktraceur Jordach: How'd that work out?
16:38 Jordach see before my las msg
16:38 Jordach last
16:38 marktraceur Jordach: Fair enough.
16:39 marktraceur Coincidentally, I don't donate to minetest. Fathom *that*!
16:40 Calinou then do it :P
16:41 Calinou paypal is still too greedy, this is why i hate donating, though
16:42 Jordach http://pastebin.com/4W4xuZJr
16:43 Calinou pastebin.com, seems legit
16:43 Jordach http://pastebin.com/F2TgBiZJ
16:43 Jordach updated
16:44 Zeg9 int CalinouBank;*
16:44 Zeg9 Don't forget the ;
16:44 Jordach shit
16:45 Jordach http://pastebin.com/NC03vHVa
16:45 * Jordach actually wrote this in a browser window
16:46 Jordach yes, google chrome supports tabbing :)
16:46 Zeg9 I think it's more pastebin that supports tabbing
16:46 Zeg9 or wait...
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16:59 OldCoder Hello
16:59 OldCoder Too late for artur to see this but no; I'm running 0.4.3 so I don't have 0.4.4 cache yet
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17:00 markveidemanis hi
17:01 OldCoder markveidemanis, w
17:01 OldCoder welcome
17:01 markveidemanis ty
17:06 OldCoder markveidemanis asks if there is a way to tell why he has low FPS on client. Server is lubuntu. Hardware is 1GB RAM 1.6 GHz CPU. Conf file he says is not the issue. I suspect graphics hardware on client side. Comments?
17:07 markveidemanis laggs when looking at a small hut on my server
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17:16 Calinou disable shaders, fancy trees and clouds ("enable_clouds = 0" in minetest.conf)
17:16 Calinou with these settings and view distance to 32, MT runs ok on my netbook (multiplayer is better)
17:16 Calinou specs of netbook: intel atom n455 (1.6ghz singlecore), 1GB RAM, integrated gpu, xubuntu 12.10
17:17 Calinou screen is 1024x600
17:18 Zeg9 OldCoder, hi, and nice new design for your site :D
17:19 markveidemanis my view distance is 20
17:19 Zeg9 markveidemanis, is the server on the same computer than you play on?
17:20 markveidemanis yes
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17:20 Zeg9 Does it lag when you don't host ?
17:20 Zeg9 ...and you play on another server
17:20 markveidemanis it  does, a bit
17:23 * PilzAdam pokes VanessaE with the carts 2.0 branch
17:23 VanessaE ow.
17:23 VanessaE jeez, I can't even finish catching up on the forums before I have to answer to someone in IRC??? ;)
17:23 VanessaE good morning (etc).
17:24 PilzAdam I made the carts mod a lot more stable
17:24 PilzAdam try it
17:24 VanessaE I'll try it.
17:24 VanessaE one sec.
17:24 PilzAdam and gimme the server IP again
17:25 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 port 30000, and it's up and ready to try.
17:25 VanessaE (I took a page from Oldcoder's book and wrote a script to help automate the update process)
17:26 VanessaE PilzAdam: this runs git master as usual, and is currently up-to-date with the latest commits in minetest and _game
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17:29 * Jordach pokes VanessaE with carts 1.0
17:30 marktraceur OldCoder: So, I wonder if you might be interested in helping to mirror a minetest package repository
17:30 PilzAdam carts work nive on servers now
17:31 VanessaE PilzAdam: looks good from here, but they're still kinda jumpy
17:31 VanessaE PilzAdam: side question:  is it possible to tilt and rotate the cart and the player's view to follow the angle/direction of the tracks?
17:31 PilzAdam yea, but that depends on the server tick interval and the connection etc.
17:32 PilzAdam <VanessaE> PilzAdam: side question:  is it possible to tilt and rotate the cart and the player's view to follow the angle/direction of the tracks? <-thats on my todo list
17:32 PilzAdam but i cant do anything about the jumping thing
17:32 PilzAdam at least they dont derail all the time
17:32 VanessaE ok cool
17:32 Jordach PilzAdam - then force it to check if theres ground below
17:33 VanessaE the jumpiness we'll figure out later.
17:33 VanessaE PilzAdam: heh yeah, that roller coaster you're on, it used to derail like crazy at that top corner in the trees :-)
17:35 VanessaE PilzAdam: oops, chat crash.
17:35 VanessaE PilzAdam: anyway. you know how tracks appear to turn at a T-junction?  make the cart follow that turn by default, if there is no switch
17:36 PilzAdam the default texture turns left
17:36 PilzAdam so the carts do too
17:37 VanessaE oh ok.  I think the 1.0 carts went the other way
17:37 PilzAdam yea
17:37 PilzAdam the code actually says it other way round... but dunno
17:37 PilzAdam the old code is crap
17:38 OldCoder marktraceur, sure. The more mirrors the merrier. mirrorier.
17:38 VanessaE haha!
17:38 VanessaE bug!
17:38 OldCoder marktraceur, I'll be pleased to help make things mirrorier.
17:38 VanessaE put a cart at a corner and give it a shove
17:38 marktraceur OldCoder: Thanks.
17:38 VanessaE oh sure, now it doesn't do it
17:38 marktraceur OldCoder: I'm trying to figure out the shape of it, and that may take some time, but I'll ping you
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17:41 VanessaE PilzAdam: seems to follow the rails just fine for the most part now.  good work
17:42 OldCoder marktraceur, All right. I'll indicate here when I'm AFK or present.
17:42 babyface1031 what is a libpng warning: incorrect sBIT chunk length
17:42 marktraceur OldCoder: "some time" > 24 hours
17:43 OldCoder marktraceur, that is fine
17:43 * Jordach added 4 new songs to Soundcloud
17:44 bulletrulz I SAW SLENDERMAN LAST NIGHT!
17:44 Jordach bulletrulz - y u no dead>
17:44 Jordach (thats what they say)
17:44 bulletrulz cause i gave him a hug i do not fear him
17:44 bulletrulz he just left didnt see him agian
17:44 VanessaE jesus criminy these carts move quick if you give 'em enough shoves
17:45 Jordach VanessaE - server, y u load so slow
17:45 VanessaE Jordach: lots of mods.
17:45 Jordach and shit
17:45 VanessaE PilzAdam: the roller coaster takes ~7 seconds to make a round at max cart speed if the server isn't lagging.
17:46 PilzAdam VanessaE, yaw patch pushed
17:46 VanessaE ooooooooo
17:46 bulletrulz Dont Fear Slender Or He Will Kill You He Is Now My Guarden Angel
17:46 Jordach now make a super huge coaster
17:46 VanessaE Jordach: get off the server for a sec :-)
17:46 Jordach no
17:46 Jordach cache first
17:46 Zeg9 193.83
17:46 Zeg9 oops
17:46 VanessaE ok
17:46 marktraceur PilzAdam: Question: Do the carts maintain velocity if the block they're trying to enter suddenly loads?
17:46 VanessaE wtf?  where's my player_textures mod?
17:46 VanessaE there it is.  minus all the textures :(
17:46 VanessaE fuck
17:46 * Jordach does not wish to wait 2 mins
17:46 * VanessaE restures
17:46 VanessaE restores too
17:47 Jordach holy cow, 63%
17:47 VanessaE everyone who had player skins on my server please msg me with the URLs of those skins
17:47 Jordach aw fuck
17:47 PilzAdam marktraceur, I have no clue how they work near unloaded chunks
17:47 * Jordach grumpd
17:47 Jordach +s
17:47 PilzAdam s/near/near or in
17:48 VanessaE PilzAdam: interesting side-note:  when Jordach logged in, the cart I was riding in stopped.
17:48 VanessaE and I was thrown out.
17:49 Jordach http://ompldr.org/vZ2xydQ/LividCoffee.png
17:49 Jordach thar you go VanessaE
17:49 VanessaE got it.  I'll install in a few seconds.
17:49 bulletrulz Jordach, i contacted slendy told him not to attack you ok :D
17:49 Jordach NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOO! CLIENT, Y U CRASH AT 99%
17:49 marktraceur PilzAdam: Well, they don't, or at least didn't, last time I checked.
17:50 PilzAdam VanessaE, there are some strange bugs in the attachment code when players join
17:50 VanessaE PilzAdam: so I've noticed - like players getting attached to misc entities like torch smoke or signs lettering
17:50 PilzAdam marktraceur, are you talking about carts 2.0?
17:50 PilzAdam is the server back up?
17:50 VanessaE Zeg9: what skin do you want me to use for you?  jin-xi how about you?
17:50 marktraceur PilzAdam: It was a few weeks ago
17:51 VanessaE Jordach: all lower-case or with a capital J?
17:51 PilzAdam marktraceur, the old carts mod isnt supported anymore
17:51 * Jordach reconnects with a capital
17:52 Jordach VanessaE, just like meh nick
17:53 marktraceur PilzAdam: Can you test the effect on unloaded blocks, possibly? It's the one thing I need before I can justify loading a carts mod.
17:53 Zeg9 VanessaE: Do you accept hi-res skins ?
17:53 babyface1031 does anyone know what a libpng warning: incorrect sBIT chunk length
17:53 PilzAdam marktraceur, the old carts should restore the velocity
17:54 Zeg9 babyface, is your file really a png?
17:54 VanessaE Zeg9: sure, as long as they're not TOO highrez
17:54 Zeg9 try exporting it again with gimp, maybe it is corrupted
17:54 VanessaE Zeg9: so-called "HD" skins are fine
17:55 VanessaE (since they're usually not very high rez anyway :-) )
17:55 Zeg9 VanessaE: ok, I'm going to make a... well... maybe 32x32 for the head or something like that
17:55 PilzAdam VanessaE, update the carts mod! now!
17:55 VanessaE PilzAdam: in a second
17:55 Jordach VanessaE - privs please :)
17:55 babyface1031 i download a texture pack
17:55 VanessaE I'm trying to find the halflife2 skin kaeza was using
17:56 thexyz hm.. server can also send URL to some web-page with all required resources listed (instead of sending resources themselves), then client connects to that webpage and downloads everything; should be faster than current implementation
17:57 Jordach thexyz - allows window for cheating
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17:57 KikaRz Hello!
17:57 KikaRz News about minetest?
17:57 KikaRz (new minetest.net pages)
17:57 KikaRz (comments: that would be better)
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17:58 NekoGloop I have a "festive" cast on my foot XD
17:58 Jordach VanessaE - can you logon and pass me privs please
17:58 VanessaE Jordach: sure.
17:58 KikaRz Hi OldCoder, can you tell me news about minetest?
17:59 KikaRz ive seen 0.4.4
17:59 KikaRz let me test it in windows (direct3d
17:59 thexyz Jordach: how so?
17:59 Jordach allows changed mods
17:59 OldCoder KikaRz, I have news for my own worlds only. They are not interesting because they are not 0.4.4 yet.
17:59 OldCoder I will not switch soon
17:59 thexyz Jordach: damn you, mods are run on server
17:59 KikaRz not that
17:59 OldCoder But will do so eventually
17:59 VanessaE Jordach, PilzAdam, jin-xi: ok, it's updated.
17:59 OldCoder KikaRz, Go on
18:00 NekoGloop I have a new mouse as well
18:00 Jordach awesome
18:00 KikaRz OldCoder, tell me news, what updates it got? (changelog to 0.4.4)
18:00 Jordach NekoGloop - i have a mic
18:00 Jordach and im planning on testing a mumble server
18:00 thexyz well, seems nobody is interested
18:00 KikaRz If its adding just 1 thing... ill not update.
18:00 NekoGloop hopefully can play MC/MT better, without multi-fire right click button :s
18:00 KikaRz oh, MT got now shaders for opengl
18:00 * Jordach has a £5 mouse
18:00 Jordach cheap
18:00 Zeg9 o_o NekoGloop, it seems you had same bug than me
18:01 Zeg9 Was it a logitech mouse?
18:01 Jordach very cheap, but survives my clicks
18:01 OldCoder KikaRz, I am not following 0.4.4 yet. The others would know better.
18:01 NekoGloop Zeg9: idk came with the computer
18:01 KikaRz new mapgen...
18:02 KikaRz Who can tell me all changelog of minetest? i want to see what is in it that is newer
18:02 KikaRz otherwise , ill not update to id
18:02 KikaRz *it
18:02 VanessaE KikaRz: what was your minecraft skin plz?  I lost it
18:02 VanessaE NekoGloop: you too
18:02 KikaRz VanessaE, 0.4.4 updates?
18:02 KikaRz 3D player, new mapgen?
18:02 NekoGloop VanessaE: ?
18:02 KikaRz more?
18:03 VanessaE KikaRz: nevermind that, what was the skin you were using on my server? :-)
18:03 VanessaE NekoGloop: and where is your skin?
18:03 VanessaE I need to re-download the,
18:03 VanessaE them*
18:03 KikaRz first give me the changelog
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18:03 bulletrulz but to download slender in install it on pol :D
18:03 VanessaE KikaRz: http://www.minetest.net/news.php
18:03 VanessaE the main changelog is there
18:04 NekoGloop fuck omploader's slow speed
18:04 NekoGloop 3d anaglyphs woot
18:04 NekoGloop VanessaE: http://ompldr.org/vZ2ppcQ
18:05 KikaRz Im eating "Pasteis de belém"
18:05 KikaRz search on google for that famous traditional portuguese bake.
18:05 VanessaE NekoGloop: got it.
18:05 NekoGloop I forgot how awesome my texture pack looked
18:05 VanessaE ugh, anaglyph doesn't work for me - my glasses are the wrong colors :(
18:05 NekoGloop too bad no one liked it
18:05 bulletrulz give me 20 dollors
18:06 NekoGloop bulletrulz: how about tree fiddy?
18:06 bulletrulz ok
18:06 bulletrulz xD
18:06 KikaRz i liked
18:06 KikaRz nekogloop
18:07 KikaRz i tested it and i loved it
18:07 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZzg3cQ ah, the wonderful smell of copper
18:07 bulletrulz is slender the game good?
18:07 jin-xi VanessaE: wut?
18:07 KikaRz why you still on 0.4.3 old version?
18:07 VanessaE jin-xi: what skin did you wa nt me to use for you on the server?
18:08 VanessaE want*
18:08 jin-xi i dont care much
18:08 KikaRz let me test 0.4.4
18:08 NekoGloop KikaRz: old screenshot from when i was fooled into thinking someone cared.
18:09 marktraceur OldCoder: RealBadAngel informs me you have a package management system hacked up. Is it online somewhere?
18:09 PilzAdam Jordach, http://www.zimg.eu/i/594982221
18:09 NekoGloop Duncan!
18:09 NekoGloop :D
18:09 KikaRz lol
18:09 KikaRz Going to enable 3d cyan glasses
18:09 KikaRz :D
18:09 KikaRz *enable 3d anaglyph
18:09 KikaRz and use 3d cyan glasses
18:10 VanessaE Jordach: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1989073742.png
18:10 KikaRz going to work :D
18:10 NekoGloop PilzAdam: now all we need is a british accent
18:10 Jordach NekoGloop - im british
18:10 NekoGloop Then we're set!
18:10 NekoGloop :D
18:10 KikaRz VanessaE
18:10 VanessaE hm?
18:10 KikaRz going to send my skin in few moments
18:10 VanessaE ok
18:11 NekoGloop now just grab your Swiftwolf's Rending Gale and fly away, Jordach!
18:11 Jordach haha!
18:11 Jordach maybe a tetris machine?
18:11 KikaRz eeey...
18:11 KikaRz where is the 3d anaglyph?
18:11 KikaRz I want to use it
18:11 KikaRz :(
18:11 NekoGloop whereever you arent looking
18:12 NekoGloop I should port my minetest texture pack to minecraft.
18:12 OldCoder marktraceur, I've been putting together a worlds management framework. All the pieces will go online over time. I can add or remove mods to specified worlds or all of them; update conf files en masse; start and stop worlds safely; restart automatically; update web pages with components automatically; etc. It will be useful.
18:13 marktraceur OldCoder: Is there code?
18:13 Jordach <NekoGloop> I should port my minetest texture pack to minecraft. - i did that
18:13 marktraceur OldCoder: More importantly, is the code portable to Windows?
18:13 Jordach NekoGloop PM
18:14 KikaRz OMG
18:14 KikaRz my game is red!
18:14 KikaRz not the game
18:14 KikaRz the blocks
18:15 OldCoder marktraceur, No. Not a chance.
18:15 NekoGloop use red-cyan glasses, KikaRz
18:15 KikaRz Not that
18:15 OldCoder The worlds framework is pure UNIX.
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18:15 KikaRz i didnt find the option in the menu
18:15 OldCoder john_minetest, Hi
18:15 marktraceur OldCoder: Ugh. Then it's not useful. RealBadAngel, read scrollback if you want to see why.
18:15 KikaRz or settings
18:15 KikaRz to disable that
18:15 OldCoder marktraceur, it is useful to be sure. Just not for people running Windows servers.
18:16 KikaRz how i disable it?
18:16 marktraceur OldCoder: Well, I don't mean servers. I mean clients.
18:16 VanessaE hrm, server shot up to 100% there.
18:16 Zeg9 Windows server ? ... You serious?
18:16 KikaRz maybe.
18:16 Jordach Zeg9 - i run one
18:16 Jordach and its faster than the unix one
18:16 KikaRz People!!!
18:16 KikaRz Listen to me!!
18:16 Zeg9 Yeah but is it the same machine under unix?
18:16 Jordach yes
18:16 KikaRz How i disable 3d anaglyph ?
18:16 KikaRz i didnt fouind the option
18:17 KikaRz i didnt enabled it...
18:17 VanessaE KikaRz: already found your skin from last time.  Also, in the config file, anaglyph = false
18:17 PilzAdam VanessaE, why cant i rejoin your server?
18:17 VanessaE sorry guys, server crashed :-/
18:17 PilzAdam carts mod?
18:17 jin-xi i dug the track from below a cart
18:17 VanessaE restarted.
18:18 VanessaE PilzAdam: no, it just started spinning at 100% for no apparent reason.
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18:18 KikaRz vanessae
18:18 Jordach right, for anyone here, im starting a mumble server
18:18 KikaRz can i enter?
18:18 KikaRz ip
18:19 Jordach also, hello mauvebic
18:19 KikaRz anaglyph = false didnt worked
18:19 KikaRz its 0 ?
18:19 KikaRz i guess its 0
18:19 mauvebic sup jordach
18:19 Jordach nothing, you
18:19 mauvebic nm waking up lol
18:19 VanessaE KikaRz: sure, go ahead.  Also, try turning shaders off in the Settings menu.
18:19 OldCoder marktraceur, Oh; yes. I have that. And for Windows. I hope to release it this month or next.
18:20 KikaRz i liked the shaders
18:20 marktraceur OldCoder: Wait, what?
18:20 KikaRz :'(
18:20 OldCoder marktraceur, It is nothing but a tidied up copy of what others have used plus my own script.
18:20 OldCoder Works pretty well
18:20 mauvebic pardon my ignorance/bad eye-sight lol, what effect does shaders have?
18:20 OldCoder Or did
18:20 marktraceur OldCoder: So it *is* portable?
18:20 OldCoder marktraceur, Yep.
18:20 OldCoder For building Windows clients yes
18:20 OldCoder Under Linux
18:20 OldCoder Not under Windows
18:20 PilzAdam Calinou, can you add rail=1 group to copper rails in moreores?
18:20 OldCoder I am told the resulting EXEs are faster
18:21 VanessaE Calinou: please add group "rail=1" to moreores copper rails.
18:21 KikaRz i want shadeeers
18:21 KikaRz :(
18:21 Calinou k
18:21 NekoGloop KikaRz: then dont use an intel card
18:21 VanessaE KikaRz: some machines don't work with the game's shaders.  if you can use them, go ahead, but for some people they make the screen go all weird colors.
18:21 Zeg9 OldCoder, and if you use mingw32 under windows?
18:21 KikaRz NekoGloop, I don't have an intel card.
18:21 marktraceur OldCoder: I'm not sure I fully understand what you mean.
18:22 marktraceur OldCoder: You have some utility that lets you install and manage mods
18:22 marktraceur OldCoder: That will build on Windows, and can be used by Windows users?
18:22 KikaRz enable_shaders = 0 (that were 2)
18:22 * VanessaE whines..  new kernel coming in and I don't use ksplice.  MY UPTIME!!!! :'(
18:22 VanessaE (all 5 days of it......)
18:23 mauvebic 14 and 7 here
18:23 NekoGloop I hate having a cast on my foot
18:23 KikaRz VanessaE
18:23 KikaRz fixed it
18:23 KikaRz ip of your server plz
18:23 VanessaE KikaRz: cool
18:23 Jordach can someone test my mumble server at 217.43.103.216:64738 ??
18:23 VanessaE KikaRz:  24.181.193.82 port 30000
18:24 KikaRz sry Jordach, i don't know working with mumble
18:24 Calinou [ot] http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do < looks like people are too stupid to remove a package/disable online searches
18:24 OldCoder Zeg9, MT can be built fine under Windows. But my scripts and framework are for Linux host.
18:24 marktraceur Wow. That was annoying.
18:24 Zeg9 Ok, wasn't following the conversation right.
18:24 Zeg9 lol
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18:25 KikaRz Jordach, downloading mumble
18:25 OldCoder marktraceur, yes; there is some confusion. Tell me what you have in mind. I do have scripts that add or remove mods as part of a build. They might be separated out but Windows Perl would be required.
18:25 KikaRz why you dont do a teamspeak one?
18:26 marktraceur OldCoder: Part of a build? As in, building modpacks or games or something?
18:26 Jordach can someone test my mumble server at 217.43.103.216:64738 ?? i want to make sure this works
18:26 OldCoder marktraceur, Building servers and clients for Windows
18:26 marktraceur Hrm.
18:26 Calinou downloading mumble
18:26 * marktraceur doesn't think that will be useful
18:26 KikaRz Jordach
18:27 KikaRz im installing it
18:27 Jordach marktraceur - its for testing right now
18:27 marktraceur I'm pretty sure this will all come down to using some existing solution for package management or building some new utility.
18:27 Jordach (for me its quicker than using text)
18:27 KikaRz (installing mumble)
18:27 marktraceur Jordach: I'm talking about something else, mumble++
18:27 Calinou mumble++?
18:28 marktraceur Calinou: As in, I agree with mumble
18:28 Calinou yeah,
18:28 Calinou I have teamspeak because some french sauerbraten community uses teamspeak, they may switch to mumble some day because you now have to pay a license to host a server
18:28 * Calinou facepallm
18:28 Calinou facepalm*
18:29 VanessaE Calinou: (repeating since you missed it)... please add group "rail=1" to moreores copper rails.
18:29 Calinou i did
18:29 VanessaE ok :-)
18:30 KikaRz VanessaE,
18:30 VanessaE hm?
18:30 KikaRz next to testing Jordach Mumble server, ill try to get into your server
18:30 VanessaE ok
18:31 Jordach Calinou ports are forwarded
18:34 Calinou k
18:35 KikaRz in my country
18:35 KikaRz there is one server of mumble
18:35 KikaRz that his name is:
18:35 KikaRz rabo
18:36 KikaRz = butt or ass
18:36 marktraceur Ha, that's hilarious
18:36 marktraceur My girlfriend's bank is called "Rabobank"
18:37 marktraceur I never thought it was a good idea to bank at a place whose name is an anagram for "Rob a bank", but this just confirms my distaste.
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18:40 mauvebic youtube working for you guys?
18:41 NekoGloop yep
18:41 artur99 yes
18:41 NekoGloop it looks like shit, but works
18:41 mauvebic trying to load it for ten minutes lol nothing
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18:43 KikaRz VanessaE
18:43 VanessaE hm?
18:43 KikaRz can you give me the port of your server?
18:43 VanessaE 30000
18:43 KikaRz is it 30000 ?
18:44 KikaRz gotta tell yu one private thing
18:44 KikaRz in server ill tell you
18:44 KikaRz sfan5
18:44 KikaRz going to report you to freenode
18:44 KikaRz [17:57] -NickServ- 1 failed login since last login. [17:57] -NickServ- Last failed attempt from: KikaRz!~sfan5@minetest.ru on Dec 02 12:42:55 2012.
18:45 sfan5 i just changed to your nick and boack to mine
18:45 sfan5 thats not a crime
18:45 NekoGloop KikaRz: calm the fuck down
18:45 KikaRz no, you just failed login attempt
18:45 NekoGloop and freenode staff? they dont give a fuck.
18:45 KikaRz [17:57] -NickServ- 1 failed login since last login.
18:45 sfan5 xchat wanted to auth me with my password, but i had your nick...
18:46 VanessaE KikaRz: many of us have IRC clients that automatically try to login with nickserv on join or nick change.
18:46 marktraceur NekoGloop: Last week there was a nick spamming 20+ high traffic channels with logging in and out. They said "meh, ignore him"
18:46 KikaRz VanessaE
18:46 VanessaE KikaRz: this is normal behavior.
18:46 KikaRz Can you give me your cache folder?
18:46 marktraceur For ~10 minutes, then finally K-lined
18:46 KikaRz or i can use the old one?
18:46 KikaRz (that one from testing version)
18:46 VanessaE KikaRz: just sign on and let it download, it's got too much of my own stuff in it
18:46 VanessaE yeah your existing copy should get you most of the way
18:46 KikaRz ... VanessaE
18:46 Jordach VanessaE - my mumble test works
18:46 KikaRz it takes a lot
18:47 john_minetest OldCoder?
18:48 KikaRz i can give out my password
18:48 OldCoder john_minetest, Yes?
18:48 KikaRz my password is 1032921/19291291+1213128-11111-442+11113*45/1
18:48 KikaRz :P
18:49 KikaRz every number divided by 1 = 1
18:49 VanessaE KikaRz: don't joke about giving out passwords.
18:49 marktraceur KikaRz: You don't understand division, do you
18:49 KikaRz okey... nobody can have fun now.
18:49 marktraceur KikaRz: It's OK, IRC will mask your password if you try to give it out
18:49 KikaRz yes i understand marktraceur.
18:49 KikaRz going to test in another channel
18:50 KikaRz nope
18:50 KikaRz is not masking
18:50 NekoGloop gullible ^
18:50 marktraceur Well, you can see it. It wouldn't make sense to hide it from you. But Freenode catches it and scrubs your message.
18:50 OldCoder marktraceur, I see I am still not clear. Excuse me. I have a framework that builds servers and clients for UNIX and Windows.
18:51 marktraceur OldCoder: Right, that's not useful because I want to install and manage mods without building.
18:51 marktraceur OldCoder: Else the benefits of having a mod API are nil
18:51 OldCoder marktraceur, Indicate what you'd like. With Perl this should be possible. Even under Windows.
18:51 KikaRz VanessaE
18:51 KikaRz it freezes in 0% media
18:51 KikaRz then
18:51 KikaRz client disconencted
18:52 john_minetest mask the password? sounds like bash.org...
18:52 VanessaE KikaRz: whan version of the game are you using?
18:52 marktraceur OldCoder: I'd almost certainly prefer something that didn't require other dependencies....
18:52 marktraceur john_minetest: Shush :)
18:52 KikaRz latest
18:52 KikaRz minetest.net 0.4.4 new one
18:52 VanessaE KikaRz: try again.  that should work just fine.
18:52 KikaRz 50%
18:53 thexyz marktraceur: really? let me test it.. ******************
18:53 thexyz oh wow
18:53 marktraceur thexyz: Magical stuff
18:53 KikaRz now let me test mine:
18:53 NakedFury is Minetest 0.4.4-566f7f6 the latest version?
18:53 KikaRz uu29348kika4990422
18:53 KikaRz did it worked?
18:53 NekoGloop thexyz: ****************** lol
18:53 marktraceur KikaRz: This has been a PSA in not listening to people online.
18:53 VanessaE NakedFury: no.
18:53 marktraceur KikaRz: Change your password please.
18:54 KikaRz going to dinner
18:54 VanessaE NakedFury: the latest commit is 1d13d106dd[...]  so just use the 0.4.4-release build from the Downloads page.
18:54 thexyz NakedFury: ab06fca4bed26f3dc97d5e5cff437d075d7acff8 is
18:54 VanessaE that's as recent as you can get, all that's missing from that build is some tweaks to the README
18:54 thexyz VanessaE: this one only changes README file
18:54 VanessaE thexyz: I know.
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18:56 thexyz marktraceur: nah, i was just going to post something like >(22:53:05) KikaRz: ******************
18:56 marktraceur thexyz: *nod*
18:57 marktraceur thexyz: I don't know what she pasted in, but it wasn't her Freenode password, so that's good
18:57 marktraceur Anyway, BBL
18:57 OldCoder marktraceur, without Perl etc. how would a framework work? Do you expect it to be written in Microsoft Batch?
18:57 Jordach trololol batch
18:57 marktraceur OldCoder: C++ probably
18:57 OldCoder marktraceur, Ah
18:57 VanessaE batch!?  bite your tongue
18:57 OldCoder No; I use Perl Python Bash etc.
18:58 OldCoder Ouch!
18:58 VanessaE :)
18:58 thexyz it should be written in lua, of course
18:58 mauvebic ye olde perl +1
18:59 OldCoder thexyz, lua is certainly possible
18:59 VanessaE well thexyz actually makes an excellent point - joking aside, where there is Minetest, there is Lua by definition.
19:00 mauvebic python easy to add too
19:02 * Calinou got crushed by a python standard library
19:02 Calinou "lua please"
19:02 mauvebic well with lua os.execute you can prolly use quite a few different languages
19:09 KikaRz jin-xi was digging the whole world, VanessaE.
19:09 VanessaE so?
19:09 VanessaE :)
19:09 KikaRz your world
19:09 VanessaE let him dig all be wants, just don't grief nothin' :-)
19:10 KikaRz hated new nyan cat
19:11 artur99 how to make a shop?
19:11 KikaRz making it
19:11 KikaRz then making a chest to negociate
19:11 KikaRz iron for 1 dirt_with_grass block (for example
19:12 KikaRz the dirt_with grass is putted on the chest next that the shop owner puts iron in his inventory
19:12 artur99 but how to make it?
19:12 KikaRz building it
19:12 KikaRz -.-
19:13 KikaRz VanessaE
19:13 artur99 using blocks?
19:13 VanessaE hm?
19:13 KikaRz You need to remove the Lava and the fire.
19:13 VanessaE no.
19:13 KikaRz So?
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19:16 Jordach okay, murmur works fine
19:16 KikaRz hey
19:16 Jordach time to go on VanessaE's server and raise hell
19:16 VanessaE haha
19:16 KikaRz YEA!
19:16 * Jordach then builds a giant devil
19:17 Jordach and wait for the stupidly long waiting time
19:18 Jordach OldCoder - having a good day?
19:18 VanessaE I need to restart the server actually
19:18 * Jordach raises middle fingers
19:18 KikaRz Nooo
19:19 KikaRz fr what?
19:19 VanessaE new skins going in, updated moreores
19:19 KikaRz yay
19:19 KikaRz when will people make a 3d person view to minetest?
19:19 VanessaE done.
19:19 KikaRz and a frontal 3d person view?
19:19 VanessaE um, that I don't know.
19:19 * Jordach tries redcrabs server
19:20 PilzAdam VanessaE, mesecon support done; pull it!
19:20 KikaRz that was cool
19:20 VanessaE d'oh!
19:20 jin-xi noo, another reboot
19:20 KikaRz VanessaE, pull the lever!
19:20 OldCoder Jordach, I'd it difficult to say
19:20 VanessaE ok, pulled.  Restart imminent :-)
19:20 KikaRz another?
19:20 VanessaE jin-xi hates me now :D
19:21 KikaRz and i hate him
19:21 KikaRz because he hates you
19:21 VanessaE PilzAdam: find me a good skin to use for you on the server dammit :-)
19:21 KikaRz make a cock's skin
19:21 KikaRz :P
19:21 Jordach VanessaE, PilzAdam DRUNK SCIENCE!
19:21 KikaRz kidding
19:21 KikaRz VanessaE
19:21 VanessaE hm?
19:21 KikaRz tell me when its restarted
19:22 VanessaE KikaRz: I'll push those changes to the server when PilzAdam and jin-xi are ready :-)
19:22 KikaRz im waiting for the restart
19:22 Jordach fuck sakes
19:22 * Jordach was trying to connect
19:22 VanessaE Jordach: upper case J dammit :-)
19:23 KikaRz its restarted?
19:23 VanessaE KikaRz: not yet.
19:23 Jordach sorry, redcrabs 30402 i have admin as jordach not Jordach
19:23 KikaRz come on
19:23 Jordach (which im used to dammit)
19:23 KikaRz what's mip mapping?
19:23 VanessaE KikaRz: jin-xi is still going apeshit with the mining laser :-)
19:23 Jordach also, i saw something odd with the shaders
19:23 KikaRz stupid as*hole
19:23 VanessaE KikaRz: a graphical function that makes things work faster and look better in some cases - it's hard to describe.
19:23 KikaRz jin-xi, you'll be dead in hell.
19:24 KikaRz Anisotropic Filtering?
19:24 VanessaE KikaRz: related.  I can't explain it here, it's too complicated.
19:24 KikaRz Bi-Linear Filtering?
19:24 KikaRz Tri-Linear Filtering?
19:24 KikaRz i should enable all? i want to make game faster and looking good
19:24 VanessaE KikaRz: that one's easier.  basically blurring the textures a little to smooth them out.
19:24 KikaRz :D
19:24 VanessaE no, not if you use the default 16px textures.
19:24 VanessaE those are meant for HD textures.
19:25 KikaRz oh:'(
19:25 PilzAdam VanessaE, why havent you restarted the server?
19:25 Jordach VanessaE - strange lights http://ompldr.org/vZ2x0MA/screenshot_12728235.png
19:25 Jordach this is with shaders
19:25 KikaRz COME ON MY BEAUTIFUL E!
19:25 VanessaE PilzAdam: because jin-xi is playing and i'm still waiting for you to give me a link to a good skin to use :-)
19:25 KikaRz ...
19:25 PilzAdam I dont have any skin texture
19:25 jin-xi huh?
19:25 KikaRz jin-xi, you'll have many things
19:25 KikaRz if you do Alt F4
19:25 PilzAdam and i dont fu**ing care
19:25 VanessaE Jordach: what am I seeign here?
19:25 KikaRz thats too cool for me
19:25 * Jordach is going to go apeshit with the lasers
19:26 KikaRz its like: HD game
19:26 KikaRz but a bit laggy
19:26 Jordach look at the darkish blue lighting
19:26 VanessaE Jordach: OH, the background being bluish, yeah
19:26 VanessaE ok ok ok ok
19:26 VanessaE jeez
19:26 Jordach thats incredibly sharp
19:26 VanessaE the server's updated and restarted.
19:26 KikaRz YAAAAAAAAAAY!
19:26 * Jordach 's rage is at 70%
19:26 VanessaE jeez, please one person, piss off another :D
19:27 KikaRz joining server
19:27 Jordach fuck you mumble
19:27 Jordach y u re-arrange my desktop
19:27 KikaRz mumble is gay.
19:29 KikaRz VanessaE
19:29 * Jordach sighs
19:29 KikaRz i cant enter server
19:30 VanessaE you timed out.
19:30 VanessaE you're in now.
19:30 VanessaE let it load.
19:30 KikaRz Problem is my pc
19:30 * Jordach drums fingers
19:31 KikaRz whats that shit for atlas?
19:31 Jordach Perhaps it is the node. That forces it to never load. It might be the toad in the road. For the rest is in code.
19:31 KikaRz to disable atlas
19:31 KikaRz or sei la
19:31 KikaRz sei la = idk
19:42 Jordach there we go
19:42 Jordach fancy stuff == off#
19:43 Jordach VanessaE - bug, minetest has to recache for some bug
19:43 VanessaE huh.
19:43 VanessaE wonder why?
19:43 Jordach i just logged out through escape, turned off the settings, logged in again, with minetest open
19:44 Jordach also, y u install unified bricks
19:45 * Jordach waits
19:46 VanessaE um
19:46 VanessaE I do have UB installed.
19:46 VanessaE oh
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19:46 VanessaE I read that as y u no. :-)
19:47 VanessaE and it's there because I *like* it :-)
19:47 Jordach also, my pc is acting really strange
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19:48 * OldCoder is on errands for an hour or two
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19:49 iqualfragile good morning
19:51 OldCoder iqualfragile, hi
19:51 * OldCoder will bbiab
19:52 iqualfragile yes!
19:52 iqualfragile guess who is in the steam-beta!
19:54 NakedFury for what?
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19:55 markveidemanis Zeg9 and LAD
19:55 markveidemanis LAD
19:56 NakedFury time for some planetside2
19:57 markveidemanis hi
20:00 KikaRz VanessaE
20:00 VanessaE hm?
20:00 KikaRz its your sv on?
20:00 VanessaE yes
20:00 VanessaE it's always on
20:00 KikaRz yesterday at 5 am (2 am USA) it was offline
20:01 VanessaE it might have crashed.
20:01 markveidemanis vanessae
20:01 VanessaE I should see if I can rig up a watchdog script for it
20:01 VanessaE (currently it just restarts the server if the program actually exits)
20:02 markveidemanis what mods would you recommend for my creative server?
20:02 VanessaE it's up to you
20:02 markveidemanis and can u come on plz
20:02 KikaRz i know
20:02 KikaRz technic (if you like)
20:02 KikaRz mesecons (if you like)
20:02 KikaRz forniture 3d
20:02 markveidemanis technic laggs, and requires mesecons
20:02 KikaRz etc
20:02 markveidemanis ...have
20:02 KikaRz just put mesecons
20:02 KikaRz VanessaE
20:03 KikaRz since the restart, i cant enter the server
20:03 KikaRz it freezes at Media [0%]
20:03 VanessaE kika:  Jordach, jin-xi, PilzAdam, and I are all on playing normally
20:03 KikaRz i cant enter
20:03 KikaRz it freezes at that point
20:03 KikaRz hey
20:03 VanessaE (Pilzadam and jordach are currently in the middle of a firefight(
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20:03 KikaRz give me atlas texture code
20:03 markveidemanis vanessae: addres
20:03 KikaRz to put it off
20:04 VanessaE KikaRz: get 0.4.4-release and turn off preload item visuals.
20:04 KikaRz not thaty
20:04 KikaRz the atlas
20:04 KikaRz what that does?
20:04 VanessaE KikaRz: do it anyway.  texture atlas has no effect until you're in and playing.
20:04 VanessaE markveidemanis: 24.181.193.82  port 30000
20:04 markveidemanis ty
20:04 KikaRz let me time out
20:04 KikaRz when i time out, tell me to enter
20:04 VanessaE KikaRz: enable_texture_atlas = false
20:05 VanessaE you just timed out.
20:05 KikaRz thank you
20:05 KikaRz when i time out = game freezes
20:05 KikaRz oh shit
20:05 KikaRz anaglyph = 0fast_move = false free_move = false
20:05 KikaRz game bugged
20:05 KikaRz at minetest.conf
20:05 KikaRz hahahahaha
20:05 KikaRz love net slip
20:05 KikaRz *split
20:06 KikaRz i never have problems with it.
20:06 KikaRz thats because i love it
20:06 VanessaE no wonder your game won't run right - your .conf is broken
20:07 KikaRz fuck
20:07 KikaRz problems with game now
20:07 KikaRz not the conf
20:07 markveidemanis KikaRz
20:07 markveidemanis would u like 2 come on my server?
20:07 VanessaE KikaRz: are you using 0.4.4-release from the Downloads page?
20:07 KikaRz yes.
20:07 marktraceur KikaRz: To the people who just left, you were part of the netsplit
20:08 VanessaE ok
20:08 KikaRz markveidemanis , depends. If you got there mesecons
20:08 KikaRz VanessaE, yes
20:08 markveidemanis i have
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20:09 M13_ Is there anyone here?
20:09 VanessaE no :-)
20:09 VanessaE we're all over there---------->
20:10 M13_ lol, can I have some help?
20:10 VanessaE maybe ;)
20:10 markveidemanis 24.134.50.163:30000
20:10 markveidemanis scrap that, wrong ip
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20:11 markveidemanis 86.134.50.163:30000
20:11 M13_ is it possible to make a mod where zombies spawn in a spot and walk and kill people?
20:11 KikaRz m13_
20:11 KikaRz need to talk with you
20:11 M13_ yes
20:11 VanessaE M13_: use Simple Mobs mod for that.
20:11 VanessaE there are monsters that do that already
20:11 M13_ do they come after people?
20:11 VanessaE just needs better textures.
20:11 M13_ ok
20:12 M13_ ok thnc
20:12 M13_ ok thnx*
20:12 markveidemanis kikarz
20:12 Jordach VanessaE - you know i was saying something was bugged
20:12 VanessaE yes?
20:12 Jordach minetest was the problem
20:12 VanessaE I saw that, then you signed off.
20:13 Jordach my x-chat said there was a netsplit
20:13 markveidemanis KikaRz:86.134.50.163:30000
20:14 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/hqcdA.png
20:14 Jordach there
20:14 Jordach proof
20:15 KikaRz I didnt seen my name
20:15 VanessaE Jordach: somehow I doubt that was the cause :-)
20:16 VanessaE jin-xi: turn that damn walking light off
20:17 Jordach lag machine
20:18 Jordach i swear my pc is a woman
20:18 Jordach for the past few days its done the opposite of my commands
20:18 VanessaE :P
20:19 telek Mine are politicians.
20:19 telek Constantly spitting out hot air :)
20:19 Jordach haha
20:19 Jordach if theres a volcano under washington, so thats where bush got his hot air from
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20:20 Jordach okay, i found why windows becomes slow
20:20 telek It's like the 'godhead' idea. All politicians get their hot air from the same resevoir :)
20:21 telek Because they're all facets of the same entity.
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20:21 Jordach i found something strange in portal2's save folder
20:21 Jordach .hl3 (half life 3??!)
20:23 Jordach huh, keeping the mostly used areas of windows clean of olf stuff -- it runs 3x as fast
20:23 thexyz while linux just works
20:24 Jordach <thexyz> while linux just works -- bollocks
20:24 Jordach when is it ever stable
20:24 Jordach does it defragment the drives?
20:24 iqualfragile no
20:24 thexyz lol
20:24 khonkhortisan linux doesn't just work - videos go smurf, and it goes to text mode on video driver upgrade
20:24 thexyz Jordach: "defragmentation" is fs-specific thing
20:24 iqualfragile as it does not fragment them in the first place
20:24 khonkhortisan probably because of having an extra kernel hiding somewhere
20:25 Jordach i like my kernels like i like my popcorn, ready to go
20:25 thexyz khonkhortisan: what's your distro?
20:25 khonkhortisan openSUSE 12.1
20:25 thexyz hm.. i've personally never used that one
20:25 thexyz write bug report then
20:26 berome 11.1 here .win, no ?
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20:26 TANKERx64 Hello
20:27 berome hi
20:27 TANKERx64 This is jordan4ibanez btw
20:27 khonkhortisan My advice to everyone is to use a computer mouse with a wire connected to the computer whenever possible
20:28 bulletrulz !tw Black
20:28 Minetest-tan 暇だな… どうすればいい? (@Black)
20:30 M13_ !tw Blue
20:30 Minetest-tan @jamihadley Love you more! Always<3 (@Blue)
20:30 M13_ haha lol
20:30 M13_ this is cool
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20:31 Jordach for the love of op, dont spam the bots
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20:33 john_minetest suddenly everybody is joining ^^
20:34 Tux-Tn joined #minetest
20:34 RealBadAngel cause batman has ened? ;)
20:34 RealBadAngel hi
20:34 Jordach see VanessaE - there was a net split
20:35 Jordach RealBadAngel - pm
20:35 RealBadAngel it was too comic imho
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20:35 markveidemanis HI
20:36 john_minetest BOINC is so epic.
20:36 markveidemanis hi
20:36 KikaRz hahahaha
20:36 KikaRz VanessaE was tired of fire
20:36 KikaRz i guess
20:37 VanessaE nice one guys, you crashed the server.
20:37 KikaRz YAAAAAAAY
20:37 markveidemanis KikaRz: go on my server
20:37 KikaRz I CRASHED THE SERVER!!!
20:37 KikaRz not now markveidemanis
20:37 markveidemanis lol
20:37 KikaRz need to configure my server
20:37 markveidemanis why??
20:37 KikaRz i got a new vps
20:37 VanessaE technic flashlight crashed it.
20:37 Jordach i wasnt there
20:37 KikaRz MOTHER F******************************++
20:37 markveidemanis how i get a vps?
20:37 Jordach you cant blame me now!
20:37 khonkhortisan now we know who to blame
20:37 VanessaE markveidemanis: you have to pay for one.
20:37 KikaRz not you RealBadAngel, but yes, s*upid of jin-xi
20:38 markveidemanis balls to it then
20:38 khonkhortisan There are people that have extra "space" on their vps
20:38 markveidemanis huh?
20:39 markveidemanis Khonkhortisan: go on my server and plz help with mesecons
20:39 * khonkhortisan finally found the new batteries in the back of the drawer
20:39 khonkhortisan now I can wait about a month? before I have to worry about it again
20:40 khonkhortisan Someone offered that I could use their vps, but I didn't have a use for it at the time
20:40 markveidemanis khonkhortisan...
20:41 markveidemanis 86.134.50.163:30000
20:41 Jordach there was a free vps as long as you used it, but it needed a facebook account
20:41 khonkhortisan I can see it when you pm me, but not when I type it into minetest. So I use --address
20:42 markveidemanis i have facebook..
20:42 KikaRz guys
20:42 KikaRz what  vps i should use?
20:42 KikaRz centos 5 or 6
20:42 KikaRz or debian 5 or 6
20:43 Jordach https://www.chunkhost.com/
20:43 moltenbot Jordachs link: ChunkHost
20:44 KikaRz not that
20:44 KikaRz OOOH!
20:44 KikaRz COOL!!!
20:44 KikaRz but...
20:44 KikaRz RAM?
20:45 markveidemanis 217.42.140.129 my bad...
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20:45 khonkhortisan how does it know whether you're actively using it?
20:46 Jordach by checking if theres a app running?
20:46 Jordach like minetest
20:46 khonkhortisan I might be scanning stars for life forms forever
20:46 Jordach i remember finding them through cornernotes site once
20:47 khonkhortisan haha web terminal
20:47 khonkhortisan markveidemanis, 12:49:21: ERROR[main]: Client disconnected
20:48 markveidemanis try again
20:48 khonkhortisan which os would I use if I only had experience with one distro of linux?
20:48 Jordach ubuntu
20:48 babyface1031 hi i have a idea for a mod but cant find a code to work with can anyone help i want to make a ladder box
20:48 khonkhortisan define ladder box.
20:48 markveidemanis sorry i made a lagg machine in mesecons
20:49 khonkhortisan Is it a climbable solid? Can you not go inside it?
20:49 markveidemanis like scaffold??
20:49 markveidemanis like a scaffold, he means
20:49 Jordach she*
20:49 markveidemanis server: try now
20:49 khonkhortisan Ladders currently need the character to be able to go inside the ladder node to work
20:49 babyface1031 liek the rope box that is in vines but i know vines is a bad mod so i didnt know if it would be safe to use that code
20:50 markveidemanis maybe use climbing block from maptools?
20:50 khonkhortisan vines is only bad because it grows (I think)
20:50 khonkhortisan I seem to be connecting
20:51 VanessaE seeya PilzAdam.
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20:51 khonkhortisan ugh
20:51 markveidemanis then edit cone and change drawtype
20:51 john_minetest there is a rope mod.
20:52 john_minetest the rope is plantlike i think. don't know it but i think it might be.
20:53 khonkhortisan markv has building_blocks, 3dforniture, carts and I know that even though I can't connect
20:53 KikaRz Jordach
20:53 KikaRz hate that service
20:53 KikaRz its in maintance
20:54 markveidemanis be patient with loading
20:55 TANKERx64 My api for biomes is 20-30% complete
20:55 khonkhortisan failed again - I can show you the UDP stream
20:55 TANKERx64 I present to you the island of glass and mese! http://i.imgur.com/QB8Vq.jpg
20:55 KikaRz people
20:55 KikaRz for hosting a server, we can use debian ?
20:55 KikaRz is it good?
20:56 markveidemanis very
20:56 khonkhortisan TANKERx64, that reminds me of a sponge video
20:56 john_minetest TANKERx64: best biotope ever
20:56 Jordach OMFG
20:57 Jordach i worked out luabiomes
20:57 khonkhortisan markveidemanis, http://pastebin.com/AJvv0Qqn
20:57 moltenbot khonkhortisans link: failed UDP connection to markv's server - Pastebin.com
20:57 khonkhortisan hey I just typed that title
20:57 khonkhortisan I can make the bot say anything I want
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20:59 jobbins can anyone help? all I get when trying to connect to any server is "connecting to server" and it just hangs
21:01 markveidemanis just put up my server
21:01 PilzAdam what IP and port are you trying?
21:01 markveidemanis 217.42.140.129
21:01 iqualfragile !up 217.42.140.129
21:01 moltenbot Minetest server 217.42.140.129:30000 DOWN
21:01 khonkhortisan wow that's quick
21:02 iqualfragile !up 217.42.140.129
21:02 moltenbot Minetest server 217.42.140.129:30000 UP
21:02 markveidemanis iqual, come on
21:02 iqualfragile ?
21:02 khonkhortisan !up 217.42.140.129
21:02 moltenbot Minetest server 217.42.140.129:30000 UP
21:02 markveidemanis retry
21:02 khonkhortisan hmm
21:03 iqualfragile it has a timeout of 1 sec so if the server takes more time to respond its shown as down
21:03 KikaRz Guys
21:03 KikaRz look to my old pc
21:03 KikaRz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YW_q-56fFs&amp;lc=InT-5_WjqimW236QVnCVovAOrYY2YRoAPsNXrpm8A_0&amp;lch=email&amp;feature=em-comment_received
21:03 moltenbot KikaRzs link: Como criar casa da tribo | Transformice - YouTube
21:03 KikaRz with ubuntu
21:03 KikaRz my brother was recording
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21:09 TANKERx64 YES, the function works! :D
21:10 KikaRz wghat function?
21:11 TANKERx64 the function for creating biomes without having to do all this code, with my biome api, you can just have 1 line of code which creates functions
21:11 TANKERx64 creates biomes*
21:15 NakedFury having biomes or terrain types in minetest would be  huge benefit
21:15 KikaRz love that telnet
21:15 KikaRz telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
21:17 PilzAdam we all love this
21:17 jobbins got one to work now - just needed to find a reliable list of server addresses methinks
21:21 markveidemanis can
21:21 markveidemanis can a server have players in survilal AND creative mode?
21:21 PilzAdam you can write a mod for this
21:21 markveidemanis telnet, yes lol the star wars
21:21 markveidemanis can i
21:21 markveidemanis how
21:22 markveidemanis but idk lua!
21:22 PilzAdam but wih the current upstream mods you cant do this
21:22 PilzAdam *one can write a mod for this
21:22 * sokomine is constructing a large railway and curious as to how it will work
21:22 PilzAdam on a server?
21:22 markveidemanis yep
21:22 PilzAdam no, i mean sokomine
21:22 markveidemanis oh
21:23 markveidemanis but can u plz write the mod?
21:23 KikaRz how to github get to the vps?
21:23 markveidemanis i really cant
21:23 KikaRz want to install 0.4.4 in my vps
21:23 PilzAdam markveidemanis, post it on the ideas topic in modding general, maybe someon will do it
21:23 markveidemanis ok
21:23 sokomine makrveidemanis: i played some minecraft and was annoyed of there beeing so many hostile npc disturbing my ressource gathering and building attempts and even destroying my buildings. perhaps we could have areas on servers that are "safe" versus some where there is more wilderness for the more adventure-orientated players?
21:24 sokomine on vanessas server
21:26 markveidemanis talkin to me or vanessae?
21:27 klunk markveidemanis: I don't understand why a special mod is needed for survival and creative; why, for example simple mobs+mods with 'shinning blocks" are not enough ?
21:28 markveidemanis i dont get it what do mobs have to do with all this
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21:28 klunk I like idea of dangerous and quite areas
21:28 khonkhortisan quiet
21:28 klunk rhha sorry, I had probably misunderstood, gonna read again.
21:29 klunk yes khonkhortisan
21:29 markveidemanis khonkhortisan, sure u cant join my server?
21:30 khonkhortisan my client started crashing of its own accord
21:30 khonkhortisan woah
21:30 khonkhortisan now the text boxes are readable
21:30 KikaRz guys
21:30 KikaRz how to github into my vps?
21:30 khonkhortisan ?
21:30 KikaRz (get github into my vps
21:30 KikaRz directyl
21:30 markveidemanis give itanother go khonkh
21:30 nekoneko258 joined #minetest
21:31 KikaRz *directly
21:31 thexyz KikaRz: what do you mean?
21:31 thexyz clone github repo?
21:31 KikaRz maybe
21:31 nekoneko258 Hello
21:31 khonkhortisan keep at git repo in the vps or a complete github server?
21:31 khonkhortisan *keep a
21:31 thexyz there's no such a thing as "github server"
21:31 KikaRz not that
21:31 thexyz it's closed-source
21:31 KikaRz Getting the minetest git hub (0.4.4)
21:31 KikaRz into the vps
21:31 KikaRz directyl
21:31 KikaRz *directly
21:32 thexyz just `git clone git://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git`
21:32 thexyz directly?
21:32 KikaRz yep
21:32 KikaRz that
21:32 khonkhortisan what? I thought they had a way download a server
21:32 KikaRz and how to create a directory?
21:32 nekoneko258 How is everyone
21:33 KikaRz im fine, and you?
21:33 nekoneko258 hey vanessa :3
21:33 thexyz Does the license include access to the source code?
21:33 thexyz No. Licenses cover the use of the software only. Modification and redistribution are not permitted.
21:33 khonkhortisan mkdir
21:33 nekoneko258 im ok
21:33 thexyz khonkhortisan: ^
21:33 thexyz well, there's server, at least
21:33 thexyz so i was wrong
21:33 KikaRz okey...
21:33 KikaRz how to download the zip
21:33 KikaRz of the githbu?
21:34 KikaRz *github
21:34 KikaRz i cant git clone git://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git
21:34 thexyz why can't you?
21:34 iqualfragile KikaRz: you can create a new directiory using mkdir <name>
21:34 KikaRz ...
21:34 KikaRz iqualfragile, that's too late.
21:34 khonkhortisan git should say "cloning into minetest..."
21:34 KikaRz but its not saying
21:35 KikaRz it says command not found
21:35 iqualfragile apt-get install git
21:35 khonkhortisan sudo zypper in git
21:35 thexyz KikaRz: what's your server's OS?
21:35 khonkhortisan try both of those
21:35 KikaRz Ubuntu 12.05
21:35 KikaRz or smtng
21:35 iqualfragile then my command
21:36 khonkhortisan yeah
21:36 iqualfragile put a sudo in front
21:36 iqualfragile sudo apt-get install git
21:36 KikaRz im installing by root
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21:39 * klunk after 3 readings: survival = hostiles mobs, first, and after "general" dangers like falling, too long under water, ...
21:39 thexyz btw, you shouldn't launch minetest server as root
21:40 khonkhortisan minetest client isn't so bad, but a mod can do anything you can do
21:42 KikaRz compiling 0.4.4 server...
21:42 KikaRz thexyz, im just installing
21:42 KikaRz the compiling is on minetest user
21:42 thexyz ok
21:43 KikaRz Muahahahah
21:43 KikaRz if someone that i dont know who is
21:43 KikaRz is connected to my router, is dead.
21:43 KikaRz http://pplware.sapo.pt/windows/software/wifi-guard-quem-anda-na-sua-rede-sem-fios/
21:43 moltenbot KikaRzs link: WiFi Guard - Quem anda na sua rede sem fios? | Pplware
21:44 khonkhortisan moltenbots link: WiFi Guard - Who walks in your wireless network? | Pplware
21:44 markveidemanis khonk
21:45 khonkhortisan yes?
21:45 TANKERx64 http://imgur.com/gallery/yB2Fx
21:45 moltenbot TANKERx64s link:             Infomercial Gifs - Imgur
21:45 markveidemanis try now
21:46 KikaRz lol
21:46 khonkhortisan my client is worse (and better) after compile
21:47 KikaRz TANKERx64, you made me poop.
21:48 khonkhortisan correlation implies causation
21:49 KikaRz LIKE http://addons.videolan.org/content/show.php/+Youtube+video+and+playlist+importer?content=149909
21:49 moltenbot KikaRzs link:  Youtube video and playlist importer addons.videolan.org
21:50 thexyz moltenbot: http://minetest.ru/test.html
21:50 moltenbot thexyzs link: http://minetest.ru/test.html
21:50 thexyz why won't it reply to itself?
21:51 khonkhortisan if there were two of the same exact bot it would work
21:51 khonkhortisan moltenbots link: http://minetest.ru/test.html
21:51 moltenbot khonkhortisans link: http://minetest.ru/test.html
21:51 khonkhortisan hehe
21:54 khonkhortisan random grammatical forum avatar http://forums.xkcd.com/download/file.php?avatar=44089_1234438446.gif
21:57 khonkhortisan I allot a lot
21:57 KikaRz stop khonkhortisan
21:57 KikaRz your bot is glitching and spamming the channel
21:57 khonkhortisan no bot
21:58 markveidemanis exactly
21:58 KikaRz yep, there is.
21:58 KikaRz [21:51] <khonkhortisan> moltenbots link: http://minetest.ru/test.html [21:51] <moltenbot> khonkhortisans link: http://minetest.ru/test.html
21:58 moltenbot KikaRzs link: http://minetest.ru/test.html
21:58 markveidemanis hehe
21:58 markveidemanis who will go on my server
21:58 KikaRz shut up stupid moltenbot
21:58 khonkhortisan which one did it respond to, the first link or the second one?
21:59 iqualfragile the first one
22:00 iqualfragile its allways the first one& @ KikaRz: it just extracted the title and the title of that page is the url of the page
22:01 iqualfragile thexyz: its not _that_ stupid…
22:01 MiJyn hi http://moltenbot.com/
22:01 thexyz KikaRz: /ignore moltenbot
22:01 moltenbot hi MiJyn
22:01 MiJyn wut?
22:01 iqualfragile it contains moltenbot
22:01 iqualfragile and hi
22:01 iqualfragile ^^
22:01 MiJyn hi iqualfragile, blahblahmoltenbotblahblah
22:02 moltenbot hi MiJyn
22:02 iqualfragile & hi ist the first word
22:02 MiJyn ok
22:02 MiJyn iqualfragile, hi, blahmoltenbotblah
22:02 iqualfragile but the bot is supposed to do stuffs not to be talked about
22:02 khonkhortisan hi m o l t e n b o t
22:02 iqualfragile -.-
22:02 MiJyn ok
22:02 khonkhortisan hi m_o_l_t_e_n_b_o_t
22:03 khonkhortisan bye moltenbot
22:03 MiJyn hi moltenbot
22:03 MiJyn ha
22:03 khonkhortisan hello moltenbot!
22:03 moltenbot hi khonkhortisan
22:03 MiJyn hey moltenbot
22:03 MiJyn hola moltenbot
22:03 khonkhortisan Hola moltenbot
22:03 khonkhortisan hehe
22:03 MiJyn lol
22:04 MiJyn poor bot lol
22:04 khonkhortisan Ciao moltenbot
22:04 TANKERx64 Okay, i think this is reasonably good for an alpha release
22:04 TANKERx64 Who wants to try biome api?
22:05 KikaRz thexyz
22:05 KikaRz not the moltenbot
22:05 KikaRz but yes the khonkhortisan
22:07 thexyz KikaRz: ?
22:08 * nekoneko258 pokes chat
22:09 khonkhortisan chat says Hohoo!
22:10 nekoneko258 XD
22:10 sfan5 :D
22:12 KikaRz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVtfDBgMBPI&amp;list=UUdm1fwk5iqteE0MVOBUuE8Q&amp;index=1
22:12 moltenbot KikaRzs link: Tudo Junto - Mulher Gato, Duas Caras e Arlequina =O - YouTube
22:12 KikaRz ups
22:12 KikaRz lol
22:12 KikaRz my uncle
22:13 KikaRz (not the batman)
22:13 KikaRz (venomextreme is my uncle "eduardo faria")
22:16 khonkhortisan the server list doesn't say the server version
22:18 TANKERx64 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3984
22:19 moltenbot TANKERx64s link: [0.1-Alpha] Creating A Biome API (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
22:19 MiJyn nice TANKERx64
22:20 TANKERx64 Yes yes
22:21 * TANKERx64 does a little dance
22:21 TANKERx64 Need to fix that issue with the trees
22:22 nekoneko258 maybe you and the trees should go to counciling XD
22:24 iqualfragile !re
22:24 moltenbot joined #minetest
22:25 KikaRz !re
22:25 moltenbot go away KikaRz
22:25 KikaRz xD
22:25 KikaRz smart bot.
22:25 KikaRz !help
22:25 moltenbot Try !up <hostname.org> !teach <topic> !ping <hostname.org> [<port>] !date [timezone] !define <word> !joke
22:25 KikaRz !up m13.servegame.com
22:25 moltenbot Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30000 DOWN
22:25 khonkhortisan where are the very very latest builds?
22:25 KikaRz at the github
22:25 KikaRz !joke
22:25 moltenbot "Contrary to popular belief, the Titanic didn\'t hit an iceberg. The ship was off course and ran into KikaRz  while he was doing the backstroke across the Atlantic."
22:25 nekoneko258 XD
22:25 KikaRz stupid moltenbot
22:25 thexyz khonkhortisan: http://minetest.net/download.php
22:25 moltenbot thexyzs link: Download - Minetest
22:26 KikaRz im not too fat.
22:26 nekoneko258 !joke
22:26 moltenbot "A man once taunted nekoneko258  with a bag of Lay\'s potato chips, saying "Betcha can\'t eat just one!" nekoneko258  proceeded to eat the chips, the bag, and the man in one deft move."
22:26 TANKERx64 !math
22:26 thexyz don't flood the channel, guys
22:26 TANKERx64 !help
22:26 moltenbot Try !up <hostname.org> !teach <topic> !ping <hostname.org> [<port>] !date [timezone] !define <word> !joke
22:26 nekoneko258 @_@
22:26 TANKERx64 This bot is a rot in a pot
22:26 KikaRz !define sex
22:26 moltenbot no definition found, try !s sex
22:26 KikaRz XD
22:26 KikaRz !s sex
22:26 KikaRz omg
22:26 markveidemanis moo
22:26 khonkhortisan /msg moltenbot !joke
22:26 iqualfragile jup…
22:26 KikaRz !define bot
22:26 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: bot definition: the larva of a botfly; '''especially''' one infesting the horse.
22:27 KikaRz LOL
22:27 nekoneko258 !joke
22:27 moltenbot "Only nekoneko258  can prevent forest fires."
22:27 iqualfragile i should redirect jokes to privmessages
22:27 nekoneko258 damn skippy
22:27 thexyz probably
22:28 markveidemanis hihi
22:28 markveidemanis HI
22:30 khonkhortisan c55's build is only one rev behind
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22:31 MiJyn hey, could anyone test the new breathing animation? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3976
22:31 khonkhortisan no wait, that's source
22:32 marktraceur KikaRz: What have we learned?
22:32 KikaRz idk what are you talking about
22:32 KikaRz i just learned that to create a directory is mkdir
22:32 KikaRz to remove something is rm
22:32 KikaRz to move something is mv
22:32 marktraceur KikaRz: Don't abuse the bots.
22:32 KikaRz remove them then.
22:32 marktraceur I wish I could.
22:32 MiJyn he's right
22:33 NakedFury they dont have to be removed, you just have to stop using them
22:33 MiJyn don't ban him because he is using the bots
22:33 KikaRz *her
22:33 KikaRz *she
22:33 MiJyn remove the bots if they cause trouble
22:33 NakedFury using and abusing are very different things
22:33 KikaRz i didnt abused
22:33 KikaRz i just used them
22:33 KikaRz one more thing
22:33 KikaRz how i rename a folder?
22:34 MiJyn KikaRz, mv
22:34 thexyz MiJyn: you're wrong
22:34 KikaRz not moving, RENAMING
22:34 marktraceur KikaRz: A) It's a directory B) mv current_name new_name
22:34 MiJyn KikaRz, same thing
22:34 MiJyn mv old_name new_name
22:34 marktraceur KikaRz: There is a 'rename' utility, but it's for more complicated operations.
22:34 KikaRz i want to rename a folder
22:34 KikaRz not moving it
22:35 MiJyn thexyz, how? If the bots can cause trouble, fix them, or remove them
22:35 MiJyn KikaRz, it's the same operation!
22:35 thexyz MiJyn: it's like banning kitchen knives because people can use them to kill
22:35 KikaRz hey, games\minetest (the minetest_game) needs to be renamed?
22:35 KikaRz yaaay! bot is out!
22:35 MiJyn thexyz, no, I mean, make it safer
22:36 thexyz ok, make knives safer (and harder to use too)
22:36 moltenbot joined #minetest
22:36 thexyz only bot that caused trouble was OldCoder's one
22:36 khonkhortisan I know someone that banned kitchen knives
22:36 iqualfragile it now redirects !d and !j to privmessages
22:36 iqualfragile !j
22:36 thexyz like http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-06#i_2694057
22:36 moltenbot thexyzs link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-06
22:37 thexyz others don't produce more text than regular user does
22:38 iqualfragile is there an svg for the minetest-icon?
22:39 KikaRz installing mods in my sv
22:39 thexyz iqualfragile: misc/minetest-icon.svg
22:39 iqualfragile thanks
22:39 KikaRz hey
22:39 KikaRz may i replace 0.4.4 new things?
22:40 KikaRz well, i got a mod folders (games/minetest_games already configured)
22:40 KikaRz may i replace default... buckets... vessels... etc?
22:41 iqualfragile PilzAdam: good work! https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/commits/carts_2.0
22:41 moltenbot iqualfragiles link: Commit History ? PilzAdam/carts ? GitHub
22:41 marktraceur KikaRz: You're free to do whatever you want on your own server.
22:42 KikaRz going to make a creative server
22:42 khonkhortisan including banning buckets, making fire burn every item like acid, etc.
22:42 KikaRz well, how i remove lava and fire from creative?
22:42 KikaRz or locking lava and fire?
22:42 TANKERx64 where is the on_generated function?
22:42 KikaRz idk
22:42 khonkhortisan there's more than one, isn't there?
22:42 KikaRz oh, that question was not for me
22:43 khonkhortisan You can make your own on_generated
22:43 KikaRz guys, how i make lava, fire locked?
22:44 marktraceur KikaRz: Define "locked"?
22:44 KikaRz ... disabled
22:44 NakedFury locked as in players cant use it?
22:44 KikaRz .define locked
22:44 KikaRz bot has no answer.
22:44 khonkhortisan or locked as in only admin can use it?
22:44 KikaRz no, its disabled
22:45 TANKERx64 Now you can all have nice little biomes :D i just wish i could locate the on_generated function to speed it up
22:46 khonkhortisan what are you using currently?
22:46 KikaRz I'd like to thank the users who allowed to test me this in #minetest, and to those who suggested improvements (in no particular order):  sdzen, VanessaE, PilzAdam, sfan5, celeron55, KikaRz, OldCoder, RealBadAngel, and all the people who commented in here. Thanks to you all!
22:46 KikaRz my name is there *o*
22:46 KikaRz by kaeza http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3905
22:46 moltenbot KikaRzs link: [Mod] IRC Chat (W.I.P.) [0.1.1] [irc] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
22:47 PilzAdam iqualfragile, thx
22:47 TANKERx64 what is minetest.registered_on_generateds
22:47 TANKERx64 why is there an s at the end?
22:48 khonkhortisan looks like a mistake
22:48 PilzAdam gtg now; bye
22:48 TANKERx64 no its minetest.registered_on_generateds, minetest.register_on_generated = make_registration()
22:48 KikaRz people, how i remove the lava and the fire?
22:48 TANKERx64 celeron55 what is this?
22:48 KikaRz and the bucket of lava
22:48 khonkhortisan where are you looking? All I see is minetest.register_on_generated(func(minp, maxp, blockseed))
22:49 khonkhortisan both gameboom and redcrab have disabled bucket
22:50 KikaRz ...
22:50 KikaRz but how i disable them?
22:50 KikaRz tutorial please
22:50 TANKERx64 ~/minetest/builtin/misc_register
22:50 marktraceur KikaRz: rm -rf bucker
22:50 marktraceur bucket*
22:50 KikaRz not the bucket
22:50 KikaRz only
22:50 KikaRz i want the water bucket if possible :P
22:51 khonkhortisan KikaRz, comment out the second bucket.register_liquid(
22:51 marktraceur KikaRz: Edit the default mod to not register lava and fire? I don't know.
22:51 KikaRz ...
22:51 KikaRz how to remove them ? many servers dont have them
22:51 KikaRz to grief protect
22:51 KikaRz VanessaE, can you explain me?
22:51 khonkhortisan Comment out minetest_game/mods/bucket/init.lua lines 92 - 97
22:51 MiJyn ok
22:52 MiJyn and any lava/fire entry in minetest_game/mods/default/init.lua ;)
22:52 khonkhortisan fire is its own mod, no?
22:52 MiJyn oh
22:52 MiJyn right
22:52 khonkhortisan and you'd still want there to be lava in the world
22:53 KikaRz forget.
22:53 khonkhortisan Untested Instructions: comment out minetest_game/mods/bucket/init.lua lines 92 - 97 + remove the fire mod
22:54 MiJyn kohkhortisan, she could also comment out the map generation thingies that needs lava
22:54 MiJyn *khonkhortisan
22:54 khonkhortisan I think removing lava completely is taking it too far
22:54 marktraceur MiJyn: Tab complete: It's useful.
22:54 MiJyn marktraceur: wow, I didn't know konversation had that!
22:55 KikaRz im snoozy
22:55 khonkhortisan most, if not all, of them should have that
22:55 MiJyn khonkhortisan, of course, but still...
22:55 khonkhortisan if you didn't have a bucket but still had fire, the only way you could burn someone's house down is if they build it out of wood and under a lava lake
22:55 khonkhortisan other than admin/creative
22:56 khonkhortisan /giveme
22:56 KikaRz who can give me the sethome mod topic?
22:57 khonkhortisan is there an minetest irc chat mod channel open right now?
22:57 marktraceur khonkhortisan: /say /giveme
22:57 MiJyn @KikaRz, there is a "search" button on the MT forrums lol
22:57 MiJyn *forums
22:57 khonkhortisan /giveme
22:57 khonkhortisan ?
22:57 khonkhortisan oh
22:57 marktraceur /say /say /say /say
22:57 khonkhortisan no space
22:57 marktraceur It's a useful command
22:57 MiJyn test
22:57 MiJyn wow
22:57 KikaRz COME ON!
22:57 KikaRz i dont have time!
22:58 khonkhortisan what do you have?
22:58 marktraceur khonkhortisan: The ability to annoy the fuck out of people on IRC, clearly
22:58 KikaRz Its this one? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3865
22:58 moltenbot KikaRzs link: Sethome and Setspawn (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
22:58 MiJyn @KikaRz, it would take less time to search it on the MT forums yourself, because if not, we have to search for it, and then it takes time for us to send the answer back to the IRC and for you to receive it
22:58 KikaRz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3865
22:58 moltenbot KikaRzs link: Sethome and Setspawn (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
22:58 KikaRz ups
22:58 KikaRz bug
22:58 marktraceur KikaRz: No, that's the *other* sethome mod.
22:58 KikaRz i want setspawn too
22:59 khonkhortisan the other other one
22:59 KikaRz dont find any other one.
23:00 marktraceur Oh, right, it's on the secret mod forum
23:00 KikaRz ...
23:00 KikaRz fast.
23:00 KikaRz got 5 min
23:00 KikaRz i need to get on the train in 15 minutes
23:00 marktraceur KikaRz: You successfully found the mod without our help, just use it.
23:01 KikaRz . that works correctly?
23:01 MiJyn yeah
23:01 marktraceur KikaRz: Almost probably, yes.
23:01 KikaRz jordan4ibanez
23:01 KikaRz are you there?
23:01 KikaRz you monkey :P
23:02 MiJyn nope
23:02 MiJyn jordan4ibanez isn't there
23:02 KikaRz can you say me: Yay , you did it?
23:02 MiJyn I'm not sure if TANKERx64 is him though
23:03 KikaRz server is now ON :D
23:03 KikaRz not going to share the ip / hostname
23:03 khonkhortisan mi client thinks so
23:03 KikaRz fail
23:03 khonkhortisan *my
23:03 KikaRz didnt compiled with .DRUN_IN_PLACE 1
23:03 KikaRz xd
23:03 KikaRz fail
23:04 KikaRz byee!
23:04 KikaRz see ya tomorrow guys
23:05 KikaRz ly all
23:05 khonkhortisan bye
23:05 KikaRz kisses <3
23:05 KikaRz may i put in my server
23:05 KikaRz the irc mod?
23:05 KikaRz or it lags a lot on it?
23:05 KikaRz 128 mb RAM
23:06 KikaRz 10 seconds...
23:06 KikaRz 5
23:06 KikaRz 0
23:06 KikaRz ok, bye
23:07 MiJyn just wondering, does anyone here use vim to edit minetest (apart from celeron55)?
23:07 NakedFury no
23:08 khonkhortisan I prefer eclipse for inter-file programming, vim for single-file editing, and kate for when I don't know the special editor commands
23:08 NakedFury Geany and notepad++
23:10 khonkhortisan supertuxkart doesn't run with an old irrlicht so I use sources, minetest crashes with newer irrlicht so I install rpm. Repeat.
23:10 MiJyn lol
23:13 khonkhortisan anaglyph?!
23:17 TANKERx64 I already said i am jordan4ibanez
23:17 khonkhortisan xchat says that's your "Real Name"
23:18 jordan4ibanez lolwut
23:18 TANKERx64 there
23:22 MiJyn oh
23:23 MiJyn wasn't sure lol
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23:23 TANKERx64 lkjoel, make this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdl4lmBoLHk&amp;list=UUVrY21wnGBVqHYSXHNwZoCg&amp;index=2
23:23 moltenbot TANKERx64s link: MINECRAFT NYAN CAT MOD | EPISODE 793 - YouTube
23:24 marktraceur TANKERx64: Already exists
23:25 MiJyn TANKERx64, hmm
23:25 MiJyn like a vehicle?
23:25 TANKERx64 Yep
23:26 MiJyn ok, that will be my showcase project of my vehicle API :D
23:27 TANKERx64 You don't need to make a vehicle api anymore lol, just make a 3d entity, rotate it with the player, when the player hits space, make it go in the direction they point, nyancat
23:28 khonkhortisan and give damage when they crash into other cars
23:28 khonkhortisan eventually we'll need a bicycle player animation
23:29 MiJyn lol
23:30 MiJyn TANKERx64, yeah, I know, but the C++ one I finished a few days ago is faster, and should work flawlessly
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23:31 MiJyn "
23:31 MiJyn Sorry lkjoel, you are banned from using this forum!
23:32 MiJyn Banned due to slanderous/libelous statements on his website about remastersys
23:32 MiJyn lol
23:32 MiJyn I never did ANYTHING like that lol
23:42 khonkhortisan if mesecons had bundled wire, you could make a floor where each tile is both a pressure plate and a trapdoor, and a circuit somewhere else decided whether you fell through. That could be used to make a wall-less maze. But we are a ways off from bundled wire.
23:42 TANKERx64 hmm
23:43 TANKERx64 can we make entities use the animations that player's use?
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23:44 Octupus Hola
23:46 MiJyn hi Octupus
23:46 Octupus hi
23:47 khonkhortisan I know so little about the answer I wouldn't have even asked the question.
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23:56 khonkhortisan both bzflag and minetest don't have settings for anaglyph color
23:56 VanessaE needed badly for MT.
23:57 VanessaE my glasses don't work with it :(
23:57 khonkhortisan there should be a glasses-less mode
23:57 VanessaE glasses-less?
23:57 Octupus hi VanessaE
23:57 VanessaE you mean like for those fancy lenticular monitors?
23:57 VanessaE hi octu
23:58 khonkhortisan no, the mode youtube has. Sometimes it has two dots on the top of the screen. You cross your eyes until the two objects turn into one, then wait until you focus, then you're seeing 3d
23:58 khonkhortisan two side-by-side images
23:58 VanessaE oh yes
23:58 VanessaE stereogram
23:59 VanessaE I could see that being useful for some, if eye-straining.
23:59 VanessaE anyone wanna come to my server and give this roller coaster a spin? :-)
23:59 khonkhortisan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HhsIs66mY0
23:59 moltenbot khonkhortisans link: 3D Exploding Ball - YouTube
23:59 khonkhortisan I lost the ip again
23:59 khonkhortisan gotta write it in my ~/.minetest/servers file
23:59 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 port 30000

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