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00:00 Octupus can some1 tell me what is on 4.4
00:00 Octupus hi VanessaE srry i missed ya :D
00:00 VanessaE nothing.
00:00 VanessaE 4.4 doesn't exist.
00:00 VanessaE maybe you meant ZERO POINT FOUR POINT FOUR ?
00:00 VanessaE :-)
00:00 Octupus yes that :D
00:01 VanessaE 3d players, fancy shaders, various tweaks to the game content, bugfixes
00:01 Octupus O cool
00:02 Octupus does it use the 1 Taoki made
00:02 VanessaE yep
00:02 Octupus cool
00:02 Octupus can we do 3d person view also?
00:02 VanessaE not third-person view, no
00:03 VanessaE you can't see yourself
00:03 Octupus o
00:03 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1239210256.png
00:03 VanessaE the default skin ^^^
00:03 Octupus nice
00:03 Octupus van iheard u had a server
00:04 VanessaE yeah
00:04 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 port 30000
00:04 Octupus may i play on it?
00:04 VanessaE it's slow and laggy but you're welcome to log on and build something
00:04 Octupus :D
00:04 VanessaE here's the skin I use thereon:  http://www.9minecraft.net/girl-skin/
00:05 VanessaE (I have the player_textures mod)
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00:05 Octupus hi babyface1031
00:05 Octupus cool vanessa
00:05 VanessaE evening babyface.
00:05 babyface1031 VanessaE: Octupus hi
00:06 Octupus lala waitng for media :)
00:06 VanessaE it'll take a while
00:06 VanessaE there's lots of media to download.
00:07 Octupus im at 60 something
00:07 VanessaE moving along decently then
00:07 Octupus yep
00:08 Octupus ok im loading now :)
00:09 MiJyn VanessaE, what kind of shaders?
00:09 VanessaE MiJyn: mostly lighting changes
00:09 MiJyn oh
00:09 MiJyn lol
00:09 VanessaE tops of blocks are lighter, water is a little lower than surrounding blocks
00:09 Octupus we got that technic loading :)
00:09 VanessaE Octupus: and more yet :-)
00:10 Octupus finish
00:10 Octupus i get connaot load mesh
00:10 VanessaE stupid attach bug!
00:10 VanessaE hold plz, lemme see if I can free you
00:10 Octupus shud i redownload 0.4.4 to fix the problem
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00:10 Octupus ok
00:11 Taoki Anyone know why the minetest forum doesn't send me email notifications of replies for some time any more, even when I enable that feature?
00:11 VanessaE Octupus: sign out/in
00:11 * marktraceur waves
00:11 VanessaE Octupus: are you running 0.4.4-dev?
00:11 marktraceur For those who haven't weighed in, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3960
00:11 moltenbot marktraceurs link: Package management in Minetest (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
00:11 Octupus VanessaE,im using sfan5 1
00:12 VanessaE I dunno how new his is
00:12 Octupus did c55 make a official release for 0.4.4
00:13 VanessaE not yet
00:13 VanessaE and if he doesn't fix this attachment bug 0.4.4 is dead in the water
00:13 Octupus does this happen alot
00:13 VanessaE yes
00:13 marktraceur Octupus: There are no alots in here!
00:13 Octupus lolz
00:13 * marktraceur shakes his head condescendingly
00:14 khonkhortisan Well, when Alot gets here we'll ask him if this _does_ happen
00:14 Octupus can u see me on the server Vanessa
00:14 marktraceur Octupus: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
00:14 VanessaE Octupus: yes, but you're stuck on a sign.
00:14 VanessaE I'm right next to you
00:14 Octupus your invisible
00:14 VanessaE you're using too old of a build of minetest
00:15 VanessaE you *must* use 0.4.4-dev on this server, preferably get it from github
00:15 Octupus let me show u where i got it from
00:16 khonkhortisan a47b82904041584da71e8d8489385a322d3de5cb and then some!
00:16 Octupus VanessaE, http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/
00:16 moltenbot Octupuss link: Sfan5's Minetest Builds
00:17 VanessaE which one of those did you use, Octupus ?
00:17 Octupus the top 1
00:17 VanessaE that's too old.
00:18 VanessaE hold plz
00:18 Octupus ok :)
00:18 VanessaE http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-dev-a47b829-win32.7z
00:18 VanessaE that one's the newest
00:18 VanessaE and in fact is current.
00:18 Octupus gracias
00:19 khonkhortisan the top one is about 30 revisions behind
00:19 khonkhortisan it's so current I'm still compiling it
00:19 * VanessaE updates to latest git also
00:19 Octupus he used winrar so i used it to :)
00:20 VanessaE (I'm a couple revisions behind)
00:20 VanessaE Octupus: denada.
00:20 Octupus :D
00:21 VanessaE Octupus: server is updated and restarted
00:21 VanessaE you may log back in at your convenience, but make sure you are using the build I pointed to,.
00:21 Octupus i just extracted it im going to try now
00:22 VanessaE ok
00:22 VanessaE Unified Inventory. inventory size: 1608
00:22 VanessaE hoo that's a lot of stuff :-)
00:22 Octupus yep
00:23 Octupus so much blocks u built :D
00:23 VanessaE (and that's *after* trimming out about 400 unneeded items)
00:23 Muadtralk 0.0 I only had 1682 items
00:23 Octupus :O
00:24 Octupus VanessaE,u love lua :D
00:24 Muadtralk 400 you say?
00:24 VanessaE well I like it anyway
00:24 Muadtralk you must be bonkers
00:24 VanessaE Muadtralk: certifiable :-)
00:25 Muadtralk really? I've tried to get certified there are actually alot of prerequisites
00:25 Octupus wow im at 70% already
00:25 VanessaE yup :-)
00:25 marktraceur VanessaE: Have you seen the package manegement discussion? Didn't I link you to it?
00:25 VanessaE marktraceur: yes I saw but I'm waiting a while before I weigh in.
00:25 marktraceur *nod* K
00:26 marktraceur So long as you're in the conversation, fine
00:26 Octupus did i just see a golden toilet on the server van
00:26 VanessaE golden?  doubt it
00:27 Octupus well everything in the textures turns out golden
00:27 VanessaE Octupus: turn off shaders.
00:27 Octupus O
00:27 VanessaE Settings tab in the game's main menu.
00:27 Octupus O
00:27 Octupus thank you
00:27 VanessaE np.
00:28 * VanessaE argues with some code...
00:30 Octupus yay i get to see now
00:31 VanessaE good :-)
00:33 Octupus the server is creative?
00:34 VanessaE yup
00:35 babyface1031 ok got to go for now laptop dying migh tbe on in a bit or tomorrow
00:41 VanessaE Octupus:  I'll put it back up in a sec.
00:41 Octupus k
00:42 Octupus i gtg for tonight bye
00:42 Octupus_says_bye thanks vanessa for showing me the server
00:42 VanessaE you're wel..
00:42 VanessaE ...come.
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00:47 MiJyn is there any way to chat using only the server?
00:47 MiJyn like a server-wide msg?
00:47 MiJyn without loading the client?
00:47 VanessaE MiJyn: not as far as I know.  I wish there were, in fact.
00:48 MiJyn hmm
00:48 VanessaE the closest is that IRC mod that...who was it was working on?
00:48 VanessaE jin_xi maybe?
00:48 MiJyn where is it?
00:48 MiJyn how does it work?
00:48 jin-xi kaeza
00:48 VanessaE right, duh
00:49 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3905
00:49 moltenbot VanessaEs link: [Mod] IRC Chat (W.I.P.) [0.1.1] [irc] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
00:50 mrtux http://minetest.net
00:50 moltenbot mrtuxs link: About - Minetest
00:50 mrtux heh
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00:57 LandMineMT wasssup
01:01 marktraceur LandMineMT: What up, dawg?
01:06 kaeza joined #minetest
01:06 kaeza hello
01:06 VanessaE MiJyn: ah, the guilty party arrives ;)
01:06 kaeza ?
01:06 marktraceur kaeza: Yo yo yo, what it is?
01:06 VanessaE hey kaeza  :-)
01:06 kaeza wassup guys?
01:06 VanessaE kaeza: the IRC mod is your fault ;)
01:07 kaeza sorry I wasn't able to connect
01:07 kaeza VanessaE: waht?
01:07 VanessaE nevermind, just trying to make a joke :-)
01:07 kaeza yup
01:07 kaeza It's my fault
01:08 kaeza what PC did it break this time? :)
01:08 VanessaE lol
01:09 bulletrulz google.com
01:09 bulletrulz http://google.com
01:09 kaeza .g irc chat minetewst
01:09 marktraceur bulletrulz: We're familiar with it
01:09 kaeza hmmm
01:09 bulletrulz !g irc
01:09 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
01:09 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Internet Relay Chat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:09 * marktraceur sighs
01:09 kaeza !g irc chat minetest
01:09 Minetest-tan kaeza: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3905
01:09 bulletrulz !g Im awesome
01:09 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: [Mod] IRC Chat (W.I.P.) [0.1.1] [irc] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
01:09 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYws8biwOYc
01:10 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Spose - I'm Awesome - YouTube
01:10 VanessaE hah
01:10 kaeza YAY! first hit on GOOGOL
01:10 bulletrulz !g porn
01:10 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: Gross!
01:10 bulletrulz lol
01:10 bulletrulz :D
01:10 bulletrulz !g sex
01:10 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: Gross!
01:10 bulletrulz dammit
01:10 bulletrulz lol
01:10 kaeza !g pr0n
01:10 Minetest-tan kaeza: Gross!
01:10 bulletrulz !g gay
01:10 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay
01:10 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Gay - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:10 bulletrulz tlol
01:10 bulletrulz !g gay p   o   r  n
01:10 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://gay.porn.com/
01:10 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Gay Porn, The Best Free Gay Porn Tube Site GAY.PORN.COM
01:10 bulletrulz lol
01:10 bulletrulz !:D
01:11 bulletrulz xD
01:11 VanessaE haha
01:11 kaeza !kill self
01:11 bulletrulz xD
01:11 bulletrulz !g nigger
01:11 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger
01:11 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Nigger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:11 bulletrulz llol
01:11 bulletrulz !g p    o    r    n
01:11 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://www.pornhub.com/
01:11 kaeza !g stahp
01:11 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Free Porn Videos & Sex Movies - Porno, XXX, Porn Tube and Pussy Porn
01:11 Minetest-tan kaeza: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/stahp
01:11 bulletrulz lol
01:11 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Stahp  | Know Your Meme
01:11 bulletrulz :D
01:12 kaeza hmmm
01:12 bulletrulz !tw nigger
01:12 Minetest-tan Hey followers.  What's really hood? (@nigger)
01:12 bulletrulz lol
01:12 kaeza anything new in the game?
01:13 VanessaE *sigh*
01:13 bulletrulz !tw cocaine
01:13 Minetest-tan I know your name. But, I'd prefer to call you, Mine. (@cocaine)
01:13 VanessaE kaeza: nothing new lately
01:13 bulletrulz loll
01:13 marktraceur http://marktraceur.info/testing.html
01:13 moltenbot marktraceurs link: http://marktraceur.info/testing.html
01:13 bulletrulz !tw nikimanaj
01:13 Minetest-tan Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/nikimanaj?1354756395.58 (@nikimanaj)
01:13 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: khalid Adams (NikiManaj) auf Twitter
01:13 marktraceur Hm, it's smart.
01:13 marktraceur And by smart
01:13 marktraceur I mean only marginally smart.
01:13 VanessaE kaeza: except that attachments/entities are totally b0rk3d ;-/
01:13 kaeza wot?
01:13 kaeza hmmm
01:14 bulletrulz !g death
01:14 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death
01:14 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Death - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:14 kaeza marktraceur: what is that link?
01:14 bulletrulz !g ass
01:14 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://thechive.com/2012/05/30/sweet-ass-its-hump-day-already-60-photos/
01:14 bulletrulz lol
01:14 bulletrulz !g fuck u
01:14 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://fuckyouverymuch.dk/
01:14 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: fuck you very much
01:14 bulletrulz lol
01:14 bulletrulz :DDDDX
01:14 bulletrulz XD
01:15 bulletrulz one bot told another fuck u
01:15 kaeza ...
01:15 khonkhortisan I wouldn't ban people for talking about religion, but I would ban them for deviant porn.
01:15 kaeza (areyoufuckingkiddingme.jpg)
01:15 khonkhortisan nope
01:15 khonkhortisan ^meme
01:16 khonkhortisan I mean, meme.jpg
01:16 VanessaE khonkhortisan: what's wrong with good, clean porn? :-)
01:16 kaeza I've been playing with the CMakeLists
01:16 bulletrulz !g the miz
01:16 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miz
01:16 bulletrulz lol
01:17 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: The Miz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:17 khonkhortisan keep looking at it, and you find some that isn't good and clean
01:17 kaeza made the compilation take half the time
01:17 VanessaE khonkhortisan: heh, I've seen plenty at both ends of the scale (depending on how you define it)
01:17 bulletrulz !yt ytp
01:17 bulletrulz !g youtube poop
01:17 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/youtube-poop
01:17 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: YouTube Poop | Know Your Meme
01:17 marktraceur !g LOL I CAN USE T3H BOTS TOO
01:17 Minetest-tan marktraceur: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Katy
01:18 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Katy - Encyclopedia Dramatica
01:18 VanessaE you know, sooner or later you're gonna get those damn bots caught in a loop, each answering the other's apparent queries
01:18 marktraceur VanessaE: I already tried, it doesn't appear trivially possible
01:18 marktraceur VanessaE: See http://marktraceur.info/testing.html
01:18 moltenbot marktraceurs link: http://marktraceur.info/testing.html
01:18 bulletrulz !g Youtube
01:18 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://www.youtube.com/
01:18 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: YouTube
01:19 bulletrulz !g minefuck
01:19 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XE_mAEbFzA
01:19 VanessaE marktraceur:  neither were the pyramids ;-)
01:19 kaeza !g the next statement is true. the previuous statement is false
01:19 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Minecraft Minefuck - YouTube
01:19 Minetest-tan kaeza: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox
01:19 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Liar paradox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:19 khonkhortisan make a page with a title starting in !, then post the link
01:19 bulletrulz :D
01:19 marktraceur VanessaE: The problem is, I need two of moltenbot
01:19 marktraceur moltenbot: Hello
01:19 khonkhortisan "I always lie"?
01:19 VanessaE heh
01:19 marktraceur No, it was the other one
01:19 marktraceur Minetest-tan: Hello
01:19 marktraceur Huh.
01:19 kaeza !g hello
01:19 Minetest-tan kaeza: http://www.helloonline.com/
01:20 kaeza ?
01:20 kaeza !g hello lionel richie
01:20 Minetest-tan kaeza: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_ILDFp5DGA
01:20 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Hello by Lionel Richie - YouTube
01:20 marktraceur .g http://marktraceur.info/testing.html
01:20 moltenbot marktraceurs link: http://marktraceur.info/testing.html
01:20 bulletrulz !g asking all them qestions
01:20 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwUX4cSwrRk
01:20 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: WHY YOU ASKING ALL THEM QUESTIONS? .. #FCHW - YouTube
01:20 kaeza !g this statement is false
01:20 Minetest-tan kaeza: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox
01:20 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Liar paradox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:21 kaeza !C
01:21 kaeza !c
01:21 Minetest-tan kaeza: Nothing to calculate.
01:21 kaeza !c 1/0
01:21 Minetest-tan Sorry, no result.
01:22 kaeza I've been playing with the CMakeLists
01:22 kaeza made the compilation take half the time
01:22 jin-xi cool
01:22 kaeza but apparently the server grows from 2.6 MB up to ~8.5MB
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01:23 RealBadAngel hi
01:23 kaeza because I must link Irrlicht, LibPNG, etc, etc again
01:23 jin-xi RealBadAngel
01:23 kaeza RealBadAngel: hi
01:23 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Howdy!
01:23 jin-xi lol hi
01:23 RealBadAngel :)
01:24 marktraceur Hrm, www.google.com
01:24 marktraceur Nope.
01:24 kaeza http://example.com
01:24 kaeza ?
01:24 RealBadAngel anybody know the rules on which mods are loaded? i mean the order
01:24 marktraceur http: //aoeu.com
01:25 kaeza RealBadAngel: apparently alphabetically
01:25 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Anarchy is the rule.
01:25 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Depend on something if you need it.
01:25 RealBadAngel i need Unified Inventory to be loaded first
01:25 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Why?
01:25 jin-xi been using it, its very cool
01:26 kaeza RealBadAngel: maybe you can make default depend on it
01:26 RealBadAngel have to override minetest_register_craft
01:26 kaeza though I cannot confirm
01:26 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Again, why?
01:26 VanessaE ah, the Angel shows his face :-)\
01:26 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Let's save some time: What's the end goal?
01:27 RealBadAngel to get craft recipes for all the items ingame
01:27 marktraceur RealBadAngel: minetest.registered_items
01:27 RealBadAngel craft recipes
01:27 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Run through it, use minetest.get_craft_recipe
01:27 kaeza RealBadAngel: in that case just make UI depend on default and wrap that func in your own
01:27 marktraceur No no no
01:27 marktraceur kaeza: Don't encourage bad solutions
01:27 RealBadAngel get craft recipe is broken
01:27 kaeza this^^
01:27 RealBadAngel returns only the first one found
01:28 VanessaE RealBadAngel: sounds like a chance to add another hook to the game (or engine).
01:28 RealBadAngel if you have more than one recipe theres no way to get it
01:28 jin-xi can't that be fixed more easily?
01:29 marktraceur RealBadAngel: I'd imagine it would be a good idea to use a patched default mod, instead of trying to make UI load first.
01:29 RealBadAngel cornernote made the code to override it and collect craft recipes in a table
01:29 RealBadAngel in his CraftGuide mod
01:29 marktraceur RealBadAngel: in your patch, add minetest.registered_recipes or something similar, then use that.
01:30 khonkhortisan Is the answer to this question no?
01:30 RealBadAngel ive moved his code into mine
01:30 marktraceur khonkhortisan: Maybe.
01:30 khonkhortisan good answer, you are not wrong by answering either yes or no.
01:30 RealBadAngel then my mod called "unified_inventory" collects 836 recipes
01:30 RealBadAngel and his called "craft_guide" collects over 2000
01:31 marktraceur RealBadAngel: I would greatly suggest patching default, submitting the patch, suggesting that your users use that patched version, and supporting the ones who don't with a different method (like a late override or get_craft_recipe)
01:32 RealBadAngel imho best solution shall be fixing minetest.get_craft_recipe
01:32 jin-xi ^^^
01:32 RealBadAngel but i was lookin for an easy one ;)
01:32 jin-xi hehe
01:32 marktraceur RealBadAngel: We don't do easy solutions here, sorry :)
01:33 RealBadAngel damm :)
01:33 * marktraceur commutes
01:34 RealBadAngel VanessaE, i found the way those trees are made
01:34 VanessaE oh yeah?
01:34 VanessaE think you can turn the algorithm into some non-stupid Lua or C++? :-)
01:34 RealBadAngel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-system
01:34 moltenbot RealBadAngels link: L-system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:35 RealBadAngel terasology using L-systems to generate plants
01:35 VanessaE (I've been working on conifers and jungletrees mods to cut down their CPU usage, they were, with apologies to cisoun and bas080, badly coded)
01:36 RealBadAngel code is quite easy
01:37 RealBadAngel http://pastebin.com/D42Z2vCj
01:37 moltenbot RealBadAngels link: /*   * Copyright 2012 Benjamin Glatzel <benjamin.glatzel@me.com>   *   * License - Pastebin.com
01:37 RealBadAngel this is tree generation code for Terasology trees
01:37 VanessaE RealBadAngel: Warning:  parse error - unable to decipher supplied language due to missing language pack.
01:38 VanessaE translation:  java is a mess to me :-)  I can't read it
01:38 RealBadAngel heheh
01:38 * VanessaE reads the link on L-systems
01:38 VanessaE maybe the math will make more sense here ;)
01:39 kaeza okay guys. gotta go
01:39 kaeza see you one of these days
01:39 RealBadAngel cya
01:41 VanessaE <hmmmm> someone who has Linux and hyperthreading, have them run this:  http://pastebin.com/xdUqwb9Y
01:41 moltenbot VanessaEs link: [C] #include <stdio.h>  #include <unistd.h>    void main() {  printf("nprocs: %d\n", - Pastebin.com
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01:52 VanessaE mauvebic
01:53 mauvebic suup
01:54 VanessaE nuthin' much
01:54 mauvebic watchin' the last batman
01:55 mauvebic wow, 3 hours, hope its good lol
01:55 VanessaE haven't seen any of them
01:55 mauvebic i preferred jack nicholson's joker lol
01:55 VanessaE ditto
01:55 VanessaE that's the only one I have seen.
01:56 mauvebic jack nicholson was funny, the other was just weird (and it killed him lol)
01:57 Dogzilla131 is there a notepad mod
01:58 VanessaE Dogzilla131: there's a mailbox mod at least.
01:58 VanessaE might serve the same purpose
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02:04 RealBadAngel VanessaE, http://algorithmicbotany.org/papers/#abop
02:04 moltenbot RealBadAngels link: Algorithmic Botany: Publications
02:04 OldCoder Back
02:04 OldCoder RealBadAngel, hi!
02:04 VanessaE wb, OldCoder.
02:04 RealBadAngel wb OldCoder
02:04 OldCoder VanessaE, ty!
02:05 OldCoder RealBadAngel, ditto
02:05 VanessaE RealBadAngel: tl;dr :-)
02:12 bulletrulz !g p   o r n
02:12 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://www.pornhub.com/
02:12 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Free Porn Videos & Sex Movies - Porno, XXX, Porn Tube and Pussy Porn
02:12 bulletrulz lol
02:12 bulletrulz xD
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02:12 VanessaE ok that's about enough of that.
02:13 kaeza back
02:13 VanessaE wb
02:13 bulletrulz ok
02:13 bulletrulz lol
02:13 VanessaE kaeza: sign onto the server...tell me if you see anything new ;)
02:13 kaeza I'm not at home :(
02:13 kaeza sorry
02:14 VanessaE :(
02:14 kaeza I exceeded my monthly cap
02:14 kaeza so i can't internet
02:14 VanessaE damn
02:14 kaeza :'(
02:14 VanessaE what kind of cap?
02:16 kaeza bandwidth
02:16 VanessaE I mean, how much of a cap is it?
02:16 kaeza 4GB per month
02:16 VanessaE 4GB???
02:16 VanessaE what are you on, satellite?
02:16 kaeza total crap
02:17 kaeza wireless modem
02:17 kaeza USB gledon
02:17 kaeza dongle
02:17 kaeza crap
02:17 VanessaE good G*d, I couldn't survive with such a strict cap
02:18 VanessaE dec. 5 and you already blew through your cap...jeez
02:18 telek Most Cell plans are like that too.
02:18 telek Was fine on a 56k, sucks on a multi-megabit connection.
02:18 VanessaE well on a cell I can kinda understand (though I think caps are total crap)
02:18 kaeza well,it lasts me for about 5 days
02:19 kaeza lol
02:19 VanessaE kaeza: what's your overage charge?
02:19 telek Caps shouldn't be less than a week at full utilization.
02:19 telek Per month.
02:19 kaeza per month
02:19 VanessaE telek: caps shouldn't exist at all imho.
02:19 VanessaE kaeza: I mean, what do they charge you when you go over?
02:20 kaeza 4GB per month
02:20 kaeza oh
02:20 telek VanessaE: Not arguing that. But since they do exist there should be a minimum quantity for them to claim 'unlimited' :D
02:20 kaeza actually, they just cut it
02:20 VanessaE damn.
02:20 VanessaE that's just crap, you need a better ISP
02:21 kaeza they offer you different plans
02:21 VanessaE no one worth their salt is going to give you any less than 100-200 GB/mo
02:21 kaeza but they give you a single gb for about the same price as the month
02:22 kaeza I think they are part of Verizon IIRC
02:22 VanessaE you should look into switching.  you're getting seriously railroaded.
02:23 VanessaE and without even so much as one of pilzadam's busted-ass carts to ride in
02:23 VanessaE :)
02:23 kaeza lol
02:23 kaeza true
02:24 kaeza -i've found a nice 60gb pan for the same price
02:24 kaeza plan*
02:25 VanessaE then switch
02:25 VanessaE fuck this 4GB shit
02:25 kaeza I'm on it
02:25 VanessaE if 4GB lasts you 5 days, 60GB ought to be 2 months' worth :)
02:26 kaeza VanessaE: challengeaccepted.png
02:28 kaeza :)
02:29 VanessaE lol
02:29 VanessaE now to keep you from going over your new cap, see if you can find some kind of network throttling program
02:30 kaeza "give a man 4GB, and he will have internet for 5 days; give a man 200gb, and he will have internet for 6 days" -- anonymous
02:30 VanessaE lol
02:30 VanessaE we have a 200 or 250GB cap here, never exceeded it so far as I know
02:31 kaeza that's a cool idea
02:31 kaeza yo still don't know me it seems
02:31 kaeza ;)
02:33 VanessaE well, if you'd lay off the porn......
02:34 * VanessaE wanders around her server..  so lonely here :(
02:34 kaeza I wonder if mt works in the olpc...
02:34 VanessaE why not?  it runs mint, no?
02:35 VanessaE (well, some variant of debian I guess)
02:35 VanessaE I doubt it has much of a GPU in it though
02:35 kaeza hmmm
02:35 kaeza it has ubuntu
02:35 kaeza butbut yes thegpu is a problem
02:35 kaeza aarrrgh
02:36 kaeza it does not have any acceleration
02:36 VanessaE "CPU: 433 MHz x86 AMD Geode LX-700 at 0.8 watts, with integrated graphics controller"
02:36 VanessaE eek, good luck with that
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02:39 kaeza also apparently only 8gb of "disk"
02:39 VanessaE 8GB is enough for a full linux install
02:40 kaeza lemme see
02:40 VanessaE as long as you trim out stuff you don't need of course
02:40 VanessaE (like ditch gnome/kde in favor of xfce or lxde or so)
02:41 kaeza df reports 398M free
02:41 VanessaE my current system takes up 8.5GB, and a lot of that is wasted
02:41 VanessaE not counting my homedir of course.
02:42 kaeza heck I'll have to install cmake, irrlicht, ...
02:42 VanessaE easily done
02:42 VanessaE apt-get install build-essential irrlicht-dev cmake ...
02:42 VanessaE ;-)
02:43 kaeza i'll try
02:43 kaeza damn I need an external mouse
02:44 kaeza this touchpad is annoying
02:44 VanessaE I've tried playing on my laptop.  It's....tricky.
02:46 kaeza no can do. need the pass. and i'm all alone
02:46 VanessaE time to boot with an install CD ;)
02:46 kaeza fck this linux auth thing
02:46 kaeza cd?
02:47 VanessaE ok maybe a thumbdrive then
02:47 telek If you can get a GPU of Original Radeon quality, you can run a very distance-limited view of minetest
02:47 kaeza hmmm
02:47 telek Anything below that and it WILL be unplayable.
02:47 telek I've run it on a laptop with an RV100 IGP
02:47 VanessaE telek: 250 with 256px textures = 35 fps or so if I turn shaders off, on my HD6870
02:48 telek It only gets like 10-15fps, so it's just barely borderline playable, but it is.
02:48 kaeza telek: I'm on an olpc :(
02:48 telek kaeza: No chance on that Geode, they were 2d only.
02:48 kaeza fck
02:48 VanessaE telek: too bad he can't network to some powerful PC and just display the results locally :-)
02:49 telek I had trouble running it on a Dual Core Hyperthreaded Atom netbook with no 3d accel and the llvmpipe driver (tried irrlichts software too, it was slower than llvmpipe)
02:49 VanessaE but that's a 20-30 MB/sec stream if you can't send GPU events.
02:49 telek VanessaE: Indeed. Actually I wonder how hard it'd be to offer an 8 bit mode.
02:49 kaeza hmmm
02:49 VanessaE quite easy really
02:50 telek If there was an 8 bit software mode you might be able to lower the processing requirements enough to have it playable on other hardware.
02:50 VanessaE but good luck getting anyone to do it :-)
02:50 kaeza challengedeclined.jpg
02:50 VanessaE you'd have better luck porting it to a C64 in that case
02:50 telek Graphically, assuming lighting and such is turned off, minetest isn't much more complicated than some of the old pentium/pentium 2 era dos games.
02:50 kaeza YAY
02:50 kaeza minetest C64
02:51 telek That's a whole 9 better than minetest C55 :D
02:51 * telek nudges celeron55.
02:52 kaeza seriously, 8 bit mode would be slpw as hell
02:52 kaeza slow*
02:52 kaeza or at least of crappy quality
02:52 VanessaE crappy quality? yes.  slow?  well it didn't used to be that way.
02:53 kaeza that depends
02:53 VanessaE it wasn't that long ago that running in 8-bit gfx mode made things faster and took less video memory, but then again no one wants 8 bit anymore.
02:54 VanessaE (and no one does OpenGL + 8 bit mode anyway)
02:55 kaeza you yeah
02:55 kaeza sorry
02:55 VanessaE heh
02:56 kaeza fcking keyboard
02:56 kaeza and this is the next step in computing?
02:56 VanessaE heh
02:57 VanessaE well the XO wasn't exactly meant to be high-end :-)
02:58 kaeza the xo is actually the garbage nobody wants.
02:58 VanessaE now now
02:58 VanessaE kids in third-world countries could use stuff like that
02:58 kaeza hmmm
02:58 kaeza sorry
02:59 kaeza yes it's true
02:59 kaeza got carried away
03:00 kaeza ?
03:00 VanessaE ok, so tomorrow when you get a chance, you're gonna call the ISP you found and set up new service, tell the 4GB guys to take a long walk off a short volcano ridge, and get back to playing on your PC :-)
03:01 kaeza I'll do.
03:02 kaeza hmmmm
03:02 VanessaE oh you gotta be shittin' me..
03:02 VanessaE http://www.haynes.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&amp;storeId=10001&amp;productId=53477&amp;langId=-1
03:02 kaeza lemme see
03:03 VanessaE note some of the other manuals listed below it also :-)
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03:04 kaeza wtf
03:04 kaeza hello Muadtralk
03:05 Muadtralk hello
03:05 VanessaE hey Muadtralk
03:05 kaeza VanessaE: are these things for sale?
03:06 VanessaE kaeza: as far as I can see, yes
03:07 kaeza confirmed: what you can't find on the internet, doesn't exist
03:07 Muadtralk not true
03:07 kaeza that goes in pair somewhat with the rule 34
03:08 VanessaE no, you didn't just..
03:08 VanessaE not rule 34.
03:08 kaeza lol
03:09 Muadtralk should someone bring up the letter after A next?
03:09 kaeza ?
03:09 VanessaE Muadtralk: that's already assumed.
03:09 Muadtralk I see
03:10 kaeza hmmm
03:11 kaeza if you change the groups of a node does it take effect immediately?
03:11 VanessaE no clue
03:13 kaeza you that may know better than me, any good free IRC server software? I want to keep testing the mod in the meantime
03:14 VanessaE sure, ircd :-)
03:15 VanessaE I'm pretty sure it's in your distro's repository
03:16 kaeza hmmm
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03:18 kaeza hello leo_in-game
03:18 VanessaE speaking of testing the irc mod :)
03:18 leo_in-game <singleplayer> hi
03:19 kaeza lol
03:19 leo_in-game <singleplayer> hybrid irc?
03:19 kaeza at least it works
03:20 leo_rockway I'm getting rid of textures
03:20 leo_rockway and staying with default
03:20 kaeza some paranoid in the forums asked if i can remove the http, ftp, etcthings
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03:21 kaeza what do you think?
03:22 kaeza hey leo
03:22 kaeza is it lagging?
03:22 MiJyn kaeza, you made the IRC bot?
03:22 kaeza yup
03:23 MiJyn wow
03:23 kaeza and for gawds sake call it "mod" please
03:23 MiJyn amazing mod
03:23 MiJyn sorry
03:23 MiJyn yeah
03:23 leo_rockway kaeza: my internet is lagging.
03:23 kaeza :P
03:23 leo_rockway kaeza: I don't care much, since I didn't use those files you provided o.o
03:23 leo_rockway I installed sockets and irc from my repo
03:24 kaeza MiJyn: wanna test it?
03:24 MiJyn kaeza, I tested it :D
03:24 MiJyn I had to edit it a bit
03:24 MiJyn used system luasocket
03:24 kaeza hmmm...
03:24 MiJyn since I have 64bit
03:24 kaeza it seems it's working better with system than embedded
03:25 MiJyn yeah
03:25 kaeza maybe I should change the readme to point users to DL luasockets separately
03:26 kaeza any input from users is gladly welcome
03:30 kaeza I've been thinking also to try and connect directly if in single player
03:31 kaeza but I need a reliable way to find when whe are in single player
03:31 VanessaE I can't help being a little curious though - why can't you just directly parse IRC protocol in Lua?
03:31 kaeza ...
03:31 VanessaE what's missing, I mean?
03:31 kaeza the protocol IS parsed in lua
03:31 VanessaE I mean without the extra libraries
03:32 kaeza the only thing in C are the sockets
03:32 MiJyn @kaeza, I think that'd be a good idea
03:32 VanessaE exactly.  Why can't that part also be done in Lua?
03:32 kaeza but how do I connect to the server?
03:32 VanessaE no clue.  I'm not well versed in networking protocols :-)
03:33 MiJyn @kaeza, what do you mean?
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03:35 kaeza1 can someone kick kaeza for me?
03:36 kaeza1 VanessaE: because lua has no built in way to connect to the internet
03:36 VanessaE ah.
03:37 kaeza If only c55 would expose some api from the game
03:37 VanessaE ask him to.
03:37 kaeza I wouldn't need luasockets
03:37 VanessaE he just might
03:37 kaeza celeron55: PING
03:38 VanessaE I mean, we got 3d players after all, and he was dead set against MC-like player models at one time
03:38 VanessaE by now he's probably in bed, for another couple of hours I guess.
03:38 kaeza I guess I'll try tomorrow
03:38 kaeza I'm borrowing my sister's comp
03:39 kaeza hmmm
03:39 VanessaE forget the computer, you still gotta get your internet back :-)
03:41 kaeza okay, in the meantime, I'll take time to update the deco computers :)
03:41 VanessaE heh
03:41 VanessaE right
03:42 VanessaE you still gotta wedge in a C64 and an Apple ][e :-)
03:42 kaeza I'm currently making the Speccy
03:42 VanessaE ok
03:42 kaeza I cannot get pics of others if I don't have inet :(
03:43 VanessaE good point
03:43 kaeza k gtg
03:43 VanessaE except..you have internet right now - download pics, save for offline
03:43 VanessaE viewing
03:43 VanessaE And always remember the golden rule of the Internet:  "If I can see it, I can copy it."
03:43 kaeza lol
03:44 kaeza hmmm... reminds me of some copycat voxel game called minesomething (not craft)
03:44 VanessaE heh
03:45 kaeza :P
03:45 VanessaE well that rule normally applies to pictures and sounds, not whole games ;)
03:46 kaeza right
03:46 kaeza ;)
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03:46 kaeza hello Neko
03:46 kaeza cool game that Gloop
03:46 VanessaE evening NekoGloop.
03:47 kaeza :3
03:47 NekoGloop Oh look, someone who actually played it instead of downloading it and just leaving it there.
03:47 kaeza I finished it ;)
03:47 kaeza almost
03:48 kaeza what can I say? I just love retro platformers
03:49 NekoGloop Of course you did, it's like not even alpha on the upstream one (which was updated ages ago)
03:50 NekoGloop You might like my other game, "So You Wanted To Play God"
03:50 NekoGloop The 2d minecraft is simply a tech demo.
03:50 kaeza link?
03:51 NekoGloop You can see it on my profile on http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/
03:53 kaeza k. I'll try it later when I get home.
03:53 kaeza and when I can connect again :'(
03:53 kaeza nvm
03:53 kaeza downloaded it
03:54 NekoGloop You can see my horribad attempts at HD graphics there.
03:54 NekoGloop And decent maze game-y ness
03:54 kaeza yup lol
03:55 kaeza nevertheless, it's pretty good
03:55 NekoGloop VanessaE: See my horribad attempts at HD graphics?
03:55 NekoGloop kaeza: Get into the game a tad farther.
03:55 VanessaE no?
03:55 NekoGloop VanessaE: http://sandbox.yoyogames.com and search "So You Wanted To Play God"
03:56 kaeza VanessaE: http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/games/194886-so-you-wanted-to-play-god
03:56 moltenbot kaezas link: YoYo Games | So You Wanted to Play God
03:56 VanessaE got it.
03:56 NekoGloop That too.
03:56 NekoGloop VanessaE: See my horribad attempts at HD graphics?
03:57 NekoGloop Ignore the title screen, that's total shit.
03:57 NekoGloop Will (not) be fixed in version 2.
03:57 VanessaE I have not, then, if that white screenshot right of the title is not it
03:58 VanessaE er, grey with white.
03:58 NekoGloop That is it. Also Wine. Use it.
03:58 VanessaE no thanks :-)
03:59 NekoGloop Well then you cant see the awesome horribadness of my graphics D:
03:59 VanessaE lol
03:59 kaeza NekoGloop: this is mine cosmorpg.sf.net
03:59 kaeza NekoGloop: this is mine http://cosmorpg.sf.net
03:59 moltenbot kaezas link: Legend of Cosmo
04:02 kaeza k guys gtg
04:02 kaeza see you later
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04:08 VanessaE evening bulletrulz
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04:40 Aqua Hello
04:41 VanessaE hi
04:41 Aqua Do you have a server?
04:41 VanessaE yes but it's playing up something badly right now.
04:41 VanessaE oh there it goes.
04:42 Aqua Can I join?
04:42 VanessaE sure.  24.181.193.82 port 3000
04:42 Aqua 0.4.4?
04:42 VanessaE yes
04:42 VanessaE updated to latest git earlier today in fact.
04:42 VanessaE but it's b0rk3d right now
04:42 NekoGloop Oh my god. Aqua actually comes here?
04:42 VanessaE lemme restart it.
04:42 Aqua love steel doors
04:43 VanessaE ok
04:43 Aqua and animated fire
04:43 Aqua is it me or did the nyancat textures change?
04:44 NekoGloop Yes.
04:44 NekoGloop And lol animated fire.
04:44 VanessaE Aqua: it changed,
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04:44 Aqua I  liuked the old ones
04:44 Aqua one*
04:45 VanessaE the old ones were copyrighted.
04:45 VanessaE so I drew new ones.
04:47 Aqua can i join ur server?
04:47 VanessaE you just did :-)
04:47 Aqua who thought of putting in the steel doors?
04:47 VanessaE it takes a while to load, give it time.
04:47 VanessaE PilzAdam did
04:47 Aqua sweet
04:51 Aqua It does take long.....
04:52 VanessaE yeah, it's slow to load.  lots of mods on this server
04:52 Aqua Im sure its worth it what mods?
04:52 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~$ ls -m .minetest/games/vanessa_game/mods/
04:52 VanessaE 3dforniture, add_moreores_tool, bobblocks, bucket, campfire, carts, conifers,
04:52 VanessaE default, doors, dye, farming, fire, gloopores, habitat, hatches, homedecor,
04:52 VanessaE jungletree, legacy, locked_sign, maptools, mese_starter_kit,
04:52 VanessaE minetest-mod-jumping, minetest-mod-mesecons, moreblocks, moreores, particles,
04:52 VanessaE pipeworks, plantlife, sethome, signs, stairs, stairsplus, technic,
04:52 VanessaE unifiedbricks, unifieddyes, unified_inventory, vessels, wool, workbench,
04:52 VanessaE worldedit, xdoors2, xpanes
04:53 Aqua ok.....
04:54 Aqua what is legacy?
04:54 VanessaE one of the mods from the standard game, I don't recall what all is in it
04:55 VanessaE mostly aliases by now I would think
04:55 Aqua What does it do
04:55 VanessaE dunno.  it's there because minetest_game comes with it :-)
04:55 Aqua i know
04:57 Aqua Do you know what a blueberry is?
04:57 VanessaE sure, I just has some bread made them with a couple hours ago
04:57 VanessaE had*
04:57 Aqua The other thing
04:58 VanessaE er..?
04:58 Aqua something like http://www.blueberry-eu.com/
04:58 moltenbot Aquas link: BLUEBERRY
04:58 VanessaE I know of the blackberry, that's a phone.. the raspberry, which is some little hacker/tinkerer's gadget, and the ...
04:59 VanessaE this, I am not familiar with.
05:00 Aqua finally in!!!!!!!!1
05:01 VanessaE 12 minutes.  par for the course.
05:08 Aqua http://i.imgur.com/LhWSM.png
05:10 Aqua http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-build … 2-win32.7z
05:10 VanessaE that build is too old.
05:10 VanessaE use http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-dev-a47b829-win32.7z
05:10 Aqua then link me another
05:11 VanessaE this one is the latest.
05:11 Aqua do i have to load again?
05:12 VanessaE just reinstall with that ^^ build and try again
05:12 VanessaE the load time won't be too long the second time around.
05:12 VanessaE (usually less than 30 seconds)
05:14 Aqua and what does abm mean again?
05:14 VanessaE active block modifier
05:14 Aqua anything but microsoft?
05:14 Aqua gotta go ill join later
05:15 Aqua 2 hrs probaly.....
05:15 Aqua will u be there
05:15 Aqua ?
05:16 VanessaE no
05:16 VanessaE I'll be asleep
05:16 VanessaE but he se...
05:16 VanessaE ...rver will still be up.
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05:29 OldCoder anunakki, Hi!
05:32 anunakki hello
05:33 VanessaE ok, time for bed for me.  Night all.
05:33 VanessaE hi anunakki
05:33 anunakki hello and goodnight
05:33 VanessaE :)
05:33 VanessaE night
05:47 MiJyn You know, the player's breathing gesture looks obscene lol
05:49 khonkhortisan out of breath
05:53 MiJyn lol
05:59 khonkhortisan I shouldn't've updated, now I segfault every time going to VE's server
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06:06 MiJyn bye all
06:06 emerged Hello!
06:09 emerged Could somebody tell me why cornernote was banned?
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06:26 OldCoder emerged, He requested it
06:26 OldCoder Actually he insisted on it
06:26 emerged Why?
06:26 OldCoder emerged, long story and I'm weary tonight
06:26 emerged Ok
06:29 emerged I just need to rely if someone would update his mods to new API if it will change.
06:29 OldCoder emerged, rely? or relay? Are you asking me to speak with him?
06:30 emerged rely
06:31 khonkhortisan depend
06:31 OldCoder khonkhortisan, Hi
06:31 khonkhortisan hello
06:33 neko259 Hello.
06:33 OldCoder neko259, hi
06:34 neko259 emerged: You can update his mods :)
06:34 OldCoder Surely
06:35 neko259 Like we did with the flowers mods that was abandoned long ago.
06:35 emerged Emm, I am not so experienced in lua.
06:35 OldCoder Vanessa took over that one
06:35 OldCoder emerged, You will learn
06:35 OldCoder It is not a difficult language
06:35 neko259 Well, at first that was me and some man from RTMMP.
06:35 OldCoder Oh?
06:35 neko259 :3
06:35 OldCoder Yes that's right
06:35 OldCoder You deserve credit
06:35 OldCoder Excuse me!
06:35 neko259 :D
06:36 neko259 I don't want credit, I just want the mods to live :)
06:36 OldCoder And they have
06:36 OldCoder I feel the same way about the worlds
06:36 OldCoder Which is why I have adopted several of them
06:39 neko259 That's the power of free software community :)
06:59 OldCoder Indeed
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07:24 Zeg9 Hi
07:26 OldCoder Hi back
07:45 * OldCoder is sleeping
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08:03 Aqua Hello
08:04 emerged Hello
08:05 Aqua Hi
08:05 emerged neko259, our server is down!
08:06 neko259 Sorry, I can't fix it now. I don't have a key from the server at my work.
08:10 neko259 emerged: I've checked. It works fine.
08:12 emerged Strange.
08:14 emerged I think that I need to reboot my PC twice :3
08:17 emerged Just remembered this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N38a5ja26xY
08:18 moltenbot emergeds link: The Website is Down (real voices) - YouTube
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08:39 Aqua hello
08:40 Zeg9 I'm off! bye all
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08:45 jordach Hey guys
08:46 jordach Oh fuck me. No me command on this iPad
08:48 jordach Anyways, to xchat I go!
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09:15 * Jordach sighs
09:35 Jordach brb
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10:07 brobostigon good morning everyone,
10:07 Calinou hi
10:07 Jordach hello all
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10:09 brobostigon hi Calinou and Jordach
10:11 cmacis Mornin
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10:13 brobostigon morning cmacis
10:13 cmacis I've an idea for a mod, but I'm uncertain if a) it is possible, or b) someone has done it before. Modify the game day/night cycle to match the server's local time.
10:13 Jordach cmacis - there is a .conf setting for a real life 24 hours day night cycle
10:13 cmacis Sweet.
10:14 Jordach then just do /time 6000 for 6am
10:14 Jordach or like /time 1014 for 10:14am#
10:14 Jordach and of course /time 2100 for 9pm
10:14 cmacis 6000 for 6am, not 0600 or 600?
10:15 Jordach it has to be military time
10:15 Jordach like 6000 hours
10:15 brobostigon 24 hour clock.
10:16 cmacis I thought 6am was oh-six-hundred in military time, which is 0600 or 600. Of course, it would be interesting to learn I was wrong for a few years...
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10:24 Calinou /set -n time_speed 1
10:24 Calinou (requires "server" priv)
10:24 Calinou minetest.conf settings set with /set are not saved, too
10:24 Calinou so you'll have to edit minetest.conf and add time_speed=1
10:25 Calinou default is 72
10:34 cmacis I was mostly thinking of doing this on the local game. Especially so that when it's dark outside I'm reminded that I actually have to go to sleep
10:38 cmacis I was really happy when pokemon gold came out and was impressed with the day/night cycle matching local time
10:41 Calinou it's not that hard to do
10:42 cmacis Mhm. Again, with being a 0.X version sometimes the documentation slides a bity
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10:56 redcrab Hey there :) ... does anyone has  fun texture for the 3D character .. the one I currently use on the 30402 is the default one  and it is too neutral for this server taste
10:57 Calinou change the shirt/pants color :p
10:57 Calinou to red? :P
11:02 * Calinou now has 3 contrib packages installed, vrms reports
11:02 Calinou and 2 non-free
11:16 redcrab Calinou : easy ;p , but I'm looking for an original  fun texture ... I'm not an artist ..
11:16 Jordach redcrab - one hot skin coming right up
11:16 redcrab "hot" .. I accept only PG content
11:17 Jordach as in like hot dogs
11:19 Jordach http://ompldr.org/vZ2w2Zw/base%20colors%20miner.png
11:23 redcrab Jordach ... nice will try it asap on 30402
11:23 Jordach wait, wait thats my old world with my name on it
11:25 hohoho speaking of skins.. anyone have issue with player_textures mod (the one for 3D) with latest (as of a few days ago) unstable?
11:25 hohoho I had no luck getting it to work but on sdzens server it works. was wondering if anyone happen to have an idea why
11:25 Jordach VanessaE's testing server works
11:25 Jordach for that
11:27 Jordach redcrab, can you explain my full admin rights on 30402?
11:28 hohoho afk a few.. time for some food
11:29 redcrab Jordach :  to be exact ... in config.conf  there is "name=Jordach" .. that should answer your question :D
11:29 Jordach redcrab - is this world a chaos world like 0.3.1?
11:30 redcrab more less ... free as 0.3.1  but there is /protect command .. I ve updated first post of the thread to explain a little bit more
11:30 redcrab interact is given by default
11:31 Jordach hm, would it be possible to install technic>]#
11:31 redcrab 8O
11:31 Jordach it needs moreores, mesecons and modified stairs plues
11:31 Jordach plus
11:31 Jordach (removing mesecons from depends works too!)
11:32 redcrab :p  ... Is it a CPU eater mod .. like mesecon ...?
11:32 Jordach OldCoder's nexus is made from amazon instances
11:32 Jordach which most of them have mesecons and technic
11:33 Jordach minetest.org
11:33 redcrab Yes , but I currently Have 4 minetest instance on my AWS instance :)
11:34 Jordach OldCoder has at least 15
11:34 Jordach worlds
11:34 Jordach or instances
11:34 redcrab 15 opened port simultaneously ... cool
11:34 Jordach the amazon servers can take mesecon heat
11:35 Jordach technic runs fine on my single player
11:36 Jordach btw, it needs a special stairs plus
11:37 Jordach which i have zipped a working modpack
11:37 redcrab does it collide with recipe for classic stairs ? or existing stairs+ ? what appends to the existing world ... Does scrambling it up ?
11:38 Jordach nope, its harmless
11:38 Jordach (some blocks might, dont know because i dont update mods)
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11:42 Garp Hi :)
11:42 Garp Thanks for the work.
11:43 Garp I couldnt get it to work
11:43 Garp Question: I'm trying to play remotely, connecting through ssh-tunnel to the machine that host the server.
11:44 Garp Did someone ever done that? I redirected 30000 tcp, then used socat for UDP
11:44 Garp But I must have done something wrong. It attepmt to connect, do somethingbu Media stays at 0% and timeout
11:44 Garp any help? Thanks.
11:48 redcrab Jordach : the rpvided character skin is nice thanks
11:48 hohoho back
11:49 hohoho Garp if you get that working let me know. I'm interested in doing such myself (not in any big hurry but local tests myself failed)
11:57 Jordach im back, redcrab thank you, this took me a few seconds to draw
11:57 Jordach also, http://ompldr.org/vZ2w2cA/technicstuff.zip
12:03 Garp hohoho: Basically, I tried teh following:
12:03 Garp Client: ssh -N -f user@server -L30000:localhost:30000 (for TPC)
12:04 hohoho I used putty to make the tunnel
12:04 Garp Client: ssh -N -f user@server -L30001:localhost:30001 ; socat -T15 udp4-recvfrom:30000,reuseaddr,fork tcp:localhost:30001 # opening another tcp tunnel, and pushing UDP from 30000 in it
12:05 hohoho been about a month since I tried it but it never would connect
12:05 Garp Server: socat tcp4-listen:30001,reuseaddr,fork UDP:localhost:30000 # pushing the UDP stream to 30000 on sever.
12:05 Garp but didnt worked :(
12:05 Garp dunno why
12:08 hohoho I assume it might be minetest side since when you play singleplayer it seems to run a local server
12:09 hohoho something I would be interested in knowing as well is roughly how much bandwidth is used per active player on a server
12:09 hohoho with emphasis on roughly
12:10 Garp hohoho: I started a minetest-server
12:11 hohoho yea technically im the admin over the dtamedia server but my buddy is providing the resources lol
12:11 hohoho im not setup to run my own personal server at this time
12:11 hohoho apparently he loves minetest
12:12 * hohoho got him to try it out about a couple weeks ago (first time since a little after mods first came out
12:12 hohoho )
12:12 Jordach so you've been here a while then
12:13 * hohoho is RAPHAEL
12:13 Jordach oh hey
12:13 hohoho been roughly absent since early 2012
12:13 hohoho lol
12:13 Jordach ah, personal leave?
12:14 hohoho well had to move from where I lived and after move just got sidetracked
12:14 Jordach mhm
12:14 Jordach btw, you want 0.4-stable git clone
12:14 hohoho I am glad however to see minetest still alive and kicking
12:14 Jordach because i have suffin to show you
12:14 hohoho ?
12:15 Jordach actually wait, latest git
12:15 Jordach 217.43.103.216 : 30000
12:15 Jordach !up 217.43.103.216 30000
12:15 moltenbot Minetest server 217.43.103.216:30000 UP
12:16 hohoho lol upness
12:16 hohoho one question, is it just me or can users on mint/ubuntu can't paste from some os app (like say messenger) to minetest?
12:16 hohoho haven't been able to despite many ubuntu versions since 0.3
12:16 Jordach i can paste fine in win32
12:17 hohoho windows works fine yes
12:17 hohoho but im speaking of tux specifically
12:17 Jordach now play on that ip with latest git
12:17 Jordach :)
12:18 cmacis Don't forget the Gnu's role in the OS!
12:50 hohoho cement.. s'good
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12:55 Jordach hello Taoki
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13:03 Octupus hi
13:05 hohoho hmm does technic still work?
13:11 Jordach hohoho - you will have to use the apt-get minetest version
13:11 hohoho any reason for such Jordach?
13:12 Jordach formspec is fucked in latest
13:12 Garp Is that normal than we can stay underwater for quite a long time without any damage, and that torchs work well there too ?
13:12 hohoho any version number for reference?
13:12 Jordach also needed stuff here http://ompldr.org/vZ2w2cA/technicstuff.zip
13:12 Jordach includes technic
13:12 Jordach (with a nuclear reactor, but thats a hidden recipe)
13:12 Jordach yes, i coded that
13:12 hohoho I compiled myself and would prefer to compile myself if I can
13:12 Octupus hi Jordach
13:13 * hohoho prefers run in place
13:13 BambooVase Garp: yes
13:13 Jordach hohoho https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tree/stable-0.4
13:13 Jordach hello Octupus
13:13 hohoho @Garp yes "normal" for minetest
13:13 hohoho lol
13:14 Jordach ho ho ho, i have a gun
13:14 Jordach (die hard reference)
13:14 Octupus Jordach u made the nuclear reactor
13:14 Jordach yes
13:14 hohoho @Jordach.. would "downgrading" from latest unstable to that cause any world issues that you may be aware of?
13:14 Octupus whats it do
13:14 Jordach hohoho, i think something changed
13:14 Jordach Octupus generates a hug amount of power
13:14 Octupus cool
13:14 hohoho hug power!
13:15 * hohoho had to say it
13:15 Jordach hugfe
13:15 Jordach huge
13:15 Garp hohoho: is that a definivie behavior or is this expected to evolve ?
13:15 hohoho no idea garp
13:16 Octupus cooool
13:16 BambooVase Garp: yes
13:16 BambooVase oops sorry
13:16 Garp BambooVase ?
13:16 Garp OK, I see :)
13:16 Jordach RealBadAngel - you here
13:16 BambooVase Garp: I thought my focus was on the terminal so I pressed up+enter
13:18 Garp BTW how much would it cost to add a bit of static mecanical analysis to prevent blocks to float in the air and cantilever to support any unlimited load ?
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13:24 * hohoho listens to the silence
13:25 Jordach heh
13:25 * Jordach is working on three tiered mining drills
13:25 * hohoho is compiling for a local test
13:25 hohoho lol
13:25 hohoho battling bouts of vertigo as well
13:25 hohoho lol
13:26 * Octupus is plaing minetest :3
13:27 hohoho my do worlds get large quick
13:27 * hohoho just noticed world size of server
13:28 * Octupus is also waitin g for wizard101 to finish updating
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13:31 hohoho anunakki.. Ernie Brown?
13:31 hohoho lol
13:32 anunakki no
13:32 hohoho well either way hello and hello to MilanFIN
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13:33 Garp Am I right to understand that minetest worlds are made of 1m large nodes and that there are about 65000 nodes in each directions?
13:33 Jordach yes
13:34 hohoho what happens if you go beyond?
13:34 Octupus u cant go beyond
13:34 Octupus u will get stopped by a forcefield i believe
13:34 Garp So basiaclly, it's a 65km^3 world, with is rather "small", so why the term 'almost infinite' (in muinecraft, I dunno, they say even "infinite")
13:35 Garp Would be nice to have wrapped it, at least in the horizontal dimentsions, would it be difficilult ?
13:36 celeron55 it's infinite for all practical gameplay purposes
13:36 celeron55 and building purposes
13:36 hohoho hey celeron55
13:36 hohoho don't think we have ever chatted lol
13:36 * hohoho RAPHAEL but either someone else registered that nick or I forgot its password
13:36 hohoho lol
13:36 Garp celeron55: yes, I tried to walk for some time, got bored far before even 1km ;)à
13:37 Garp (is it wrapped or do we reach a "border" ?)
13:38 celeron55 a fully generated 60000^3 world would take roughly 100TB of space
13:38 hohoho o_O
13:38 celeron55 there is a border
13:38 Garp celeron55: which is a lot, I agree.
13:38 celeron55 given that most singleplayer worlds are in the range of a couple of MB, i think it's kinda enough
13:39 Garp CAPACITY 784.10T FREE 231.48T ( 29.5%) <- Still have 230TB, but some wouldnt be happy that I use half of it for minetets ;)
13:39 hohoho I've seen as high as 100-200MB maps but that's about it
13:39 Octupus Any1 that neeeds me PM or highlight me
13:39 celeron55 existing large servers have multiple GBs
13:40 celeron55 (like OldCoder's)
13:40 Jordach yeah, they are expansive
13:41 Jordach shit
13:41 Jordach wheres pilzadam when you need him
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13:43 Jordach celeron55 - is there any example of shapeless crafting?
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13:43 Jordach lua_api_doc.txt is useless
13:44 NekoGloop Well i could have told you that.
13:45 Jordach NekoGloop - show me a example then
13:45 NekoGloop See moreblocks.
13:47 Jordach i mean like in mc when making cakes
13:47 Jordach milk buckets -> normal bucketa
13:48 Jordach -a +s
13:48 hohoho brb in a few
13:51 Jordach ha! VanessaE - unified dyes is useful for once!
13:53 celeron55 minetest_game's dyes have shapeless crafting too
13:53 Jordach celeron55 - i meant replacements
13:54 NekoGloop Jordach: Replacements, you fool.
13:54 Jordach i hate saying something whih my fingers then follow
13:54 Jordach which
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13:55 hohoho back
13:56 hohoho and with 0.4.3 stable seems technic still doesn't work right (or maybe im just doing it wrong) lol
13:56 Jordach huh
13:56 NekoGloop You need latest-er-y
13:56 Jordach works fine on win32
13:56 NekoGloop It uses something added later in development.
13:56 Jordach even in the oldcoder build
13:56 Jordach it works fine
13:56 hohoho I've tried technic with unstable and that one I think it was jordach gave link to
13:57 hohoho everything crafts fine but can't seem to get power from generator to say electric furnace
13:57 hohoho tried all cables and even mesecon
13:57 hohoho lol
13:57 Jordach low voltage only works on low voltage
13:57 Jordach currently all machines are low voltage
13:58 hohoho tried lv_cable
13:58 Jordach bar mv solar panels and battery boxes
13:58 NekoGloop And you need a batbox inbetween
13:58 Jordach hohoho, they need to be placed under the machine node
13:58 hohoho under? ill try that
13:58 * hohoho waiting for minetest to load again (I miss the option to not load all the textures ahead of time)
13:59 NekoGloop hohoho: And you need a battery box inbetween, for reasons that are nonsensical
13:59 Jordach hohoho, there is a setting to turn that off
14:00 hohoho unless its in minetest.conf its not in the gui of this version
14:00 hohoho lol
14:00 Jordach hohoho, it is in sfan5|OFF's builds
14:00 * hohoho on linux
14:00 Jordach (sorry for the hl sfan)
14:00 hohoho if I recall right sfan5s is windows
14:00 NekoGloop Well then fuck you
14:00 NekoGloop Go away, shitnix user.
14:01 * Jordach and NekoGloop dont have this problem
14:01 Jordach high five!
14:01 * NekoGloop highfives Jordach
14:01 * NekoGloop scrapes him with his claws
14:01 Octupus i use windows also
14:01 Octupus :D
14:01 * Jordach regenerates
14:01 NekoGloop XD
14:01 Jordach ipad, y u no unlock?
14:01 NekoGloop Lil' kitty claws wouldnt hurt too much :3
14:02 NekoGloop Jordach: Because it scans your fingerprint and keeps you from using it more than 200 times.
14:02 Jordach considering a amorphous liquid cant actually do much, bar set and go hard, like glass
14:02 hohoho there we go.. I wasn't doing it right
14:02 hohoho placed under works
14:03 Jordach hohoho. im the second technic dev
14:03 hohoho guess used to placing mesecons just about anywhere
14:03 hohoho lol
14:03 Jordach https://github.com/Jordach/technic
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14:04 markveidemanis HI
14:04 Jordach hello, watch the cap lock
14:04 hohoho hey markveidemanis
14:04 NekoGloop hohoho: rba is taking inspiration from universal electricity, is part of the problem.
14:04 Jordach NekoGloop does make more sense this way#
14:05 Jordach not to mention nice looking floors
14:05 NekoGloop Wat?
14:05 NekoGloop What do you mean?
14:05 Jordach because would you have high voltage cables powered all over the floor IRL?
14:05 Jordach (like a charging cable)
14:05 NekoGloop No, i'd have the wires in the wall.
14:05 NekoGloop Not the damn floor.
14:05 Jordach exactly
14:06 Jordach some houses IRL are wired like that
14:06 hohoho lol indeed nekogloop
14:06 hohoho I've seen a business with live wires all over the roof, unprotected
14:06 NekoGloop I say we take some damn inspiration from IC2.
14:06 NekoGloop Cables WHEREEVER THE HELL WE WANT THEM.
14:07 NekoGloop Btw: i now have 60 MC mods.
14:07 NekoGloop It's not so much incompatibility at this point, but rather finding ones i like.
14:07 hohoho nekogloop made 60 or running 60?
14:07 NekoGloop Running 60
14:07 markveidemanis someone make a post on my server topic?
14:07 * hohoho has you beat
14:08 * hohoho running 83
14:08 NekoGloop I cant code in lua, you expect me to know java?
14:08 hohoho not mc
14:08 hohoho mc sucks
14:08 hohoho too laggy
14:08 NekoGloop hohoho: Nope.
14:08 NekoGloop This thing. It's called optifine.
14:08 hohoho plus I like the whole user modding thing
14:08 hohoho don't like what available? make it available
14:08 NekoGloop >Mojang making a mod API
14:08 NekoGloop Wat.
14:09 Jordach yes
14:09 markveidemanis i love optifine!!
14:09 hohoho besides recently I've played mt and mc and compared the two
14:09 * Jordach has 170fps in MC
14:09 hohoho imo both have their strengths and weaknesses but mt wins
14:09 hohoho of course that's my opinion
14:09 markveidemanis but minetest CAN disable fog and fullrender, so optifine is rendered useless
14:09 * Jordach has 70fps with Sonic Ethers shader mid
14:09 * NekoGloop has 20fps in MC but has a shitton of mods in it
14:09 Jordach mod*
14:10 * NekoGloop has 30fps in MT with a shitton of mods.
14:10 * Jordach has 22-40fps in mt
14:10 hohoho 83 mt mods.. 50-65fps
14:10 hohoho I limit to 24 since don't need so many fps
14:10 hohoho lol
14:10 NekoGloop Would prolly help if i didnt have an intel card.
14:10 * hohoho old nvidia here
14:10 * hohoho surprised it still works
14:11 NekoGloop Well here's why you lag so much in mc: you use linux!
14:11 hohoho on another computer I have with similar specs but with integrated intel I get about 10fps with mt
14:11 Jordach yay! finished the lv, mv and hv drills
14:11 hohoho nekogloop mc lag in windows as well
14:11 NekoGloop hohoho: Well yeah, you just said it has an intel card.
14:11 hohoho I have unofficially dubbed minecraft meincrap and minetest meintesticle
14:12 Jordach ehm shit
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14:12 Jordach i just realized something
14:12 hohoho for I like mein testicle more than mein crap
14:12 hohoho there should be an s in there. o well
14:12 Jordach the old drills wont get converted to the new drills
14:13 NekoGloop Because rba's code.
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14:13 RealBadAngel hi all
14:13 NekoGloop His code reminds me of minecraft source: something really simple done really stupidly.
14:13 Doc22 hey
14:13 hohoho hey RealBadAngel
14:14 Jordach RealBadAngel - got the lv mv and hv drills working
14:14 Doc22 just woke up lol
14:14 Jordach and they return the crystal and drill
14:14 Octupus hi RealBadAngel,and Doc22
14:14 Doc22 hey octupus
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14:14 Doc22 hey realbadangel
14:16 BambooVase is it normal to get stuck at [] item definition? or should I rejoin?
14:16 Jordach no it is now
14:16 Jordach not
14:16 Jordach sometimes mine gets stuck, best just letting it do
14:19 Octupus love hate
14:19 Octupus niggas hate
14:19 Octupus bitches hate
14:19 Octupus but me ,i cant
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14:24 jordach-iPad Pc getting close to crashing
14:24 hohoho ...
14:24 RealBadAngel BambooVase, if youre joinin the server for the very first time you need to get all the media
14:24 hohoho windows I presume jordach
14:24 RealBadAngel if server is loaded with bunch of mods, with lotsa content
14:24 jordach-iPad Boot camp actually
14:24 * hohoho has successfully crashed windows on many occasions. never been able to crash linux
14:24 RealBadAngel it may take a while
14:25 NekoGloop I never crashed windows.
14:25 hohoho @nekogloop then you haven't used windows fully
14:25 NekoGloop My computer took a dump, but windows itself wasnt the cause.
14:25 NekoGloop Faulty hardware ftw
14:26 hohoho my habit is trying to do more with a computer than its designed to handle normally
14:26 NekoGloop Like mc on an intel card?
14:26 hohoho results usually lag/crash/hardware failure
14:26 hohoho lol yes I've tried that nekogloop
14:26 NekoGloop I've succeeded.
14:27 hohoho I managed to get mc loaded and working
14:27 hohoho but it was too slow to use
14:27 NekoGloop Optifine.
14:27 NekoGloop That is fucking all.
14:27 Doc22 arrgh
14:27 jin-xi huh
14:27 Doc22 gotta bring out old pc, put ram in it
14:27 Doc22 change hd
14:27 hohoho I doubt optifine will do much for a 2.6GHz machine with 1GB of ram running integrated intel graphics with shared memory
14:27 jin-xi RealBadAngel: did you see c55's question in -dev?
14:27 hohoho lol
14:27 Doc22 so ill be off
14:28 hohoho ttyl doc22
14:28 Doc22 optifine does a lot for me on a 2ghz pc running 1gb ram
14:28 Doc22 X)
14:28 RealBadAngel jin-xi, no, can you copy it for me?
14:28 Doc22 cya hohoho
14:28 Doc22 cya octupus
14:28 Doc22 bb;
14:28 Doc22 bbl
14:28 jin-xi RealBadAngel: is there anything that exists, is not upstream  and should still go in 0.4.4, in someone's  opinion?
14:28 jordach-iPad Okay, windows has found air to breathe
14:28 hohoho but hey the low spec computer was a freebe. nothing wrong with it besides old
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14:30 NekoGloop hohoho: Sounds better than my piece of crap.
14:31 thexyz whoa
14:31 Jordach mm?
14:31 Octupus dut dut dut dut dut do dora the explorer :D
14:31 * Jordach shakes heae
14:31 Jordach head*
14:31 Octupus XD
14:31 hohoho technically the computer im on now was $5 usd (yes im a cheap bastard)
14:31 Octupus u are a dora bowl
14:31 thexyz OldCoder: why have you quieted Minetest-tan?
14:31 hohoho but its 6GHz processing power 1GB ram and nvidia agp 256MB
14:32 hohoho not bad for $5
14:32 Jordach <hohoho> but its 6GHz processing power 1GB ram and nvidia agp 256MB - find me a 6hz cpu
14:32 Jordach wo/ over clocks
14:32 hohoho it had a virus on its windows so I nuked the drive and loaded tux. problem solved
14:32 hohoho no overclocks that im aware of
14:33 hohoho I've done no changes to hardware. just nuked the drive and loaded tux
14:33 * hohoho is still amazed people throw away perfectly good computers because of software issues
14:34 hohoho my current whole computing setup (3 working computers including this one) complete with monitor keyboard and optical mouse cost me $20
14:34 hohoho my wifi card cost more at $40
14:34 hohoho lol
14:35 hohoho im a cheap bastard and I like it that way
14:35 thexyz OldCoder: well, i guess you can explain later
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14:35 Jordach hohoho, my pc can easily run BF3
14:35 Octupus Jordach,u like pc games dont cha :3
14:35 * hohoho jokingly requests jordachs throwaway when they upgrade to something better in 3-5 years
14:35 hohoho lol
14:36 Jordach hohoho - this thing is handbuilt
14:36 * hohoho has never spent more than $20 dollars on a complete computer setup
14:36 Octupus XD
14:36 Octupus your a cheap bastard XD
14:36 hohoho lol
14:36 * Jordach spends at least several grand into each hand built machine
14:36 hohoho hey more free money for vices
14:36 hohoho work less, more free time
14:37 hohoho lol
14:37 hohoho being cheap has its perks
14:37 Jordach this is my 2006 machine
14:37 Octupus cooool
14:37 Jordach (because im too lazy to fuck my super powered machine)
14:37 * hohoho works about 25-30 hours a week at his job.. lives well
14:37 Octupus XD
14:37 Jordach as in, break it
14:38 hohoho I like "customizing" computers. of course my customizations tend to be in like with frankenstein
14:38 Jordach and yes. its a intel core i7
14:38 * hohoho once put together a computer using 3 different parts computers held in a case that was overly too big using duct tape, metal tape and industrial velcro
14:38 Octupus is it easy to start a server on 4.4
14:38 hohoho worked well for 2 years
14:38 hohoho lol
14:38 Octupus because i just clicked on minetestserver
14:39 Jordach Octupus 0.4.4
14:39 Jordach not 4.4
14:39 Octupus yes that
14:39 Octupus i keep on forgetting the 0
14:41 Octupus i cant till 1 comes out
14:41 Octupus we'll be waiting for years :D
14:41 hohoho im guessing decades
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14:42 hohoho unless there's a lot of interest in minetest from a large group of competent coders
14:42 NekoGloop By then people wont use computers anymore.
14:43 Jordach here be my reactors https://github.com/Jordach/technic
14:44 Octupus hi babyface1031
14:44 babyface1031 hi Octupus
14:45 Jordach RealBadAngel - see my changes
14:46 hohoho reactors?
14:47 Jordach prototypes
14:47 Jordach they burn uranium like furnaces
14:47 Jordach however they wont work with your machines
14:47 hohoho where do they get uranium?
14:47 Jordach from the mines
14:47 Jordach and caves
14:48 Jordach they are found at -100 -> -350 ish
14:50 hohoho curious, what's the deepest most here have gone while mining without using fly
14:51 hohoho I've mined down to about -800 and wondering if there really is any use in going deeper
14:51 hohoho lol
14:51 Jordach technic has diamonds around -500
14:53 hohoho are they generated at world creation or after?
14:54 Jordach they are generated like coal and such
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14:54 hohoho which is? last I was on minetest everything was generated at world creation (or so it seemed)
14:56 Octupus Vanessa,when u get the time can u remove fire mod pwease because i live besides lava and i didnt reliaze fire was on till just now(house made out of wood)
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15:03 babyface1031 can anyone tell me what i did wrong on this code http://pastebin.com/fxV9pGkT
15:03 moltenbot babyface1031s link: minetest.register_node("palmtree:palm_trunk", {  description = "Tree",  tiles  - Pastebin.com
15:05 Octupus NekoGloop,Jordach^^
15:10 hohoho well im gone, was nice chatting
15:11 hohoho ttyl
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15:19 Jordach eh?
15:20 Jordach was playing red eclipse
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15:20 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
15:20 Jordach hello PilzAdam
15:21 * Jordach added three tiers of mining drills to technic
15:21 Octupus Hi PlizAdam
15:28 babyface1031 can anyone help me with a code i cant figure out what i did wrong http://pastebin.com/fxV9pGkT
15:28 moltenbot babyface1031s link: minetest.register_node("palmtree:palm_trunk", {  description = "Tree",  tiles  - Pastebin.com
15:29 Octupus PilzAdam,Jordach can u help with face and her code
15:29 Octupus because i tried to but i dont understand generation
15:31 PilzAdam what is the problem with the code?
15:33 babyface1031 i keep getting an error let me get it in pastenbin to show you
15:34 babyface1031 PilzAdam: http://pastebin.com/fJrC9HKi
15:34 moltenbot babyface1031s link: 10:33:30: ERROR[main]: ========== ERROR FROM LUA ===========  10:33:30: ERROR[ma - Pastebin.com
15:34 PilzAdam add default to depends.txt
15:35 babyface1031 ok
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15:36 babyface1031 ty PilzAdam :D
15:37 thexyz !g minetest
15:37 Minetest-tan thexyz: http://minetest.net/
15:37 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: About - Minetest
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15:37 Minetest-tan GIT: celeron55 commited to celeron55/minetest: Set proper field background colors in Irrlicht 1.8 543fc6702f 2012-12-06T09:35:40-08:00
15:37 brobostigon what are the item codes, you can put into /giveme ? to give yourself stuff.
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15:40 Jordach brobostigon - /giveme default:pick_mese
15:40 Jordach for a mese pick
15:40 Jordach !wik item_codes
15:40 Minetest-tan "These are the default arguments used for the /give and /giveme commands." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Item_codes
15:40 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Item codes - Minetest Wiki
15:40 brobostigon Jordach: thank you.
15:44 Calinou bulletrulz: ^
15:44 bulletrulz yay!
15:44 bulletrulz ty Calinou y was i muted?
15:44 Calinou you were quieted ;)
15:44 Calinou quiet is mute, basically
15:44 bulletrulz yeah y though
15:45 bulletrulz well thank u anyway
15:45 thexyz i disagree
15:46 bulletrulz thexyz, what do u mean
15:46 thexyz i think he should be quieted back
15:46 bulletrulz lol
15:46 bulletrulz xD
15:53 thexyz http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-06#i_2691031
15:53 moltenbot thexyzs link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-06
15:54 Calinou sanctions are not a good way to punish people
15:54 thexyz i agree
15:54 thexyz they are PERFECT way to do it
15:55 * Jordach does not know whether to shave jordach's beard or not
15:55 thexyz let's just hope it won't repeat in future
15:55 thexyz and still, why was Minetest-tan quieted?
15:55 Jordach i think because of bot abuse
15:55 Jordach cant we have username filters?
15:55 thexyz um..
15:56 thexyz so bot was quieted because of bot abuse
15:56 Jordach stop the damn kids from using em
15:56 thexyz nice
15:56 thexyz i've already +q'd him
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16:03 Jordach also http://www.haynes.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&amp;storeId=10001&amp;productId=52103&amp;langId=-1&amp;parent_category_rn=32503
16:03 Jordach ubuntu for n00bs
16:04 * Calinou downloads xonotic-latest-low autobuild, 606MB
16:04 Calinou git checkout uses 8GB disk space, and it's long as hell
16:04 Calinou I gave up :P
16:04 Calinou (and they use a specific script which doesn't allow the use of --depth)
16:05 Calinou Jordach: BUY something on the internet? are you crazy?
16:05 thexyz Jordach: http://google.com/ ← useful for noobs
16:05 moltenbot thexyzs link: Google
16:05 Jordach <Calinou> Jordach: BUY something on the internet? are you crazy? - heh, you TRY FINDING things that are no longer in shops without ebay
16:06 Calinou startpage.com is better :p
16:06 Calinou google without the downsides
16:06 Calinou or ixquick/duckduckgo/whatever
16:07 PilzAdam ixquick FTW
16:07 Calinou startpage is pretty much the same thing but it doesn't use yahoo/bing results
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16:09 Calinou download complete! :D
16:09 * Jordach iplocks all websites so PilzAdam is forced to use google
16:10 * PilzAdam uses NoScript to block the google bot
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16:19 Garp Are there any hooks to pilote the minetest client? So that I can relax will my avatar is mining ?
16:20 PilzAdam start minetest with --random-input
16:20 marktraceur Garp: There has been talk of it, but nothing solid yet.
16:22 john_minetest when you want to walk a long way you can use continuous_forward=true. sit back and watch yourself walking :D
16:24 john_minetest or if you have got a house in a height of 4000 or so connected to the ground with a rope, put a stapler or similar on the space-key.
16:25 Garp Thanks for teh answers, I like it
16:26 Calinou put stones on your W key and left mouse button
16:26 Calinou :>
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16:26 Calinou or find a OS/game bug to make them "stick"
16:26 Calinou (on windows alt should do this)
16:26 marktraceur There must be a good way to do this in software.
16:27 Calinou too easy :P
16:27 markveidemanis hi
16:27 markveidemanis my server is up
16:27 markveidemanis 86.134.50.163
16:27 markveidemanis any mod requests??
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16:28 markveidemanis hi zeg9
16:28 markveidemanis wanna join my serveer??
16:28 Zeg9 Hello!
16:28 Zeg9 Maybe... What's the ip again?
16:28 markveidemanis 86.134.50.163:30000
16:28 markveidemanis its changed
16:28 Zeg9 ok, wait, I'll try something before
16:28 markveidemanis k
16:28 PilzAdam !up 86.134.50.163
16:29 moltenbot Minetest server 86.134.50.163:30000 UP
16:29 marktraceur Well, off to the coal mines, talk to y'all soon
16:30 Zeg9 o_O I now have 2 mice (and 2 cursors)
16:30 Zeg9 This is going to be really... useful...
16:31 markveidemanis how??
16:31 Octupus hi Zeg9
16:31 Zeg9 markv: are you on linux?
16:31 markveidemanis yep
16:31 Zeg9 Hey Octupus
16:31 * Calinou posted a comment to GNOME 3 blog
16:31 markveidemanis who koined my server as Iqualfragile??
16:31 Calinou let me bet 99 mese it'll be censored
16:31 markveidemanis #joined
16:31 Calinou they only put comments when they're good for them
16:31 Zeg9 markv: make sure you have 2 mice connected (on a different usb (or the old port, PS2?) port)
16:32 Zeg9 Then install xinput
16:32 markveidemanis xinput?
16:32 markveidemanis on linux....
16:32 markveidemanis sudo apt-get xinput??
16:32 Zeg9 What distro are you using?
16:32 Zeg9 yeah, that I think
16:32 Zeg9 or apt-cache search xinput if it isn't that
16:32 Jordach Calinou link me the comment!
16:32 markveidemanis lubuntu - debian
16:33 Zeg9 ouch, my second mouse is really faster than the other one...
16:33 markveidemanis useful, but only 1 mouse
16:33 Calinou it's awaiting moderation, but content of comment is: "GNOME 3 forces you to use compositing, which is bad. (new line) inb4 censorship" :D
16:33 Calinou it's a reply to another comment
16:33 Jordach Zeg9 then unplug the other
16:33 Calinou (at a gnome 3 fanboy)
16:33 Zeg9 Jordach: lol
16:33 Jordach thats always funny
16:33 markveidemanis so anyone to go on my server?
16:34 Zeg9 what programs could be compatible with 2 mice...
16:34 Zeg9 I'm coming
16:34 markveidemanis 86.134.50.163:30000
16:34 Jordach 2 minetests???
16:34 Calinou if you're on linux, you can have several mouse pointers
16:34 markveidemanis ummm, 2 minetest windows?
16:34 Calinou MPX :P
16:34 Jordach RoR
16:34 dlowe markveidemanis: You've been such a pest about it, I'd suspect a malware exploit on your server now
16:34 Calinou ror?
16:34 Jordach rigs of rod
16:34 markveidemanis can i have 2 keyboards?
16:34 Jordach rods
16:37 Jordach wow OldCoder's been sleeping all day
16:37 Zeg9 2 keyboard ? yes, just plug the other one
16:37 markveidemanis done
16:37 Zeg9 FYI, it's not possible to use 2 minetest windows, even with a second mouse >.<
16:37 Zeg9 I'm going to unplug it now xD
16:37 Calinou of course it is not
16:38 Zeg9 There is multi pointer functionnality in x but it isn't used anywhere.
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16:39 rubenwardy hi all
16:39 markveidemanis any mod requests for my server?
16:39 markveidemanis hi
16:41 Jordach ffs
16:41 Jordach its almost 2 centigrade in this room
16:42 * Jordach turns heater on
16:43 markveidemanis Zeg9.......
16:44 Zeg9 markveidemanis....... ?
16:44 markveidemanis server?...
16:44 markveidemanis hehe
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16:50 Penguin joined #minetest
16:50 Penguin hi
16:51 OldCoder Hi back Penguin
16:51 Penguin I Need Some Help
16:51 Penguin -----------------------------------------
16:52 OldCoder What's up?
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16:54 OldCoder celeron55, Good morning
16:55 thexyz OldCoder: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-06#i_2692341
16:55 OldCoder R
16:55 moltenbot thexyzs link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-06
16:58 OldCoder thexyz, issue is tedious bot wars. People go !this or !that endlessly. Others shout at them over and over. Consensus was clear and temporary. Other ops can just turn bots back on after tempers cool.
16:59 thexyz you should quiet the person who started bot war
16:59 PilzAdam thexyz, +1
16:59 OldCoder PilzAdam, thexyz, This is a point that has been made. But what if "fault" is not clear? Is it the person who goes !bacon or the one who shouts !bacon is bad?
17:00 OldCoder Bots are bad
17:00 thexyz OldCoder: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-06#i_2691031
17:00 OldCoder R ty
17:00 thexyz of course it was bot's fail
17:00 moltenbot thexyzs link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-06
17:01 OldCoder Not really following point of latest link but thank you
17:01 OldCoder Bots are disruptive. Fights are negative. Pleasant atmosphere is better.
17:01 thexyz i'm talking about this particular case
17:01 OldCoder Thank you. I am literal and I do not understand.
17:02 OldCoder There is another point...
17:03 OldCoder If a bot is muted temporarily its feelings are not injured. We lost Cornernote to a kick. RBA was angry enough nearly to leave for less. If somebody is clearly over the top they should be muted. Otherwise... the bot gets it!
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17:04 OldCoder PilzAdam, thexyz ^ important point
17:04 Jordach it seems to be this arbitarial power divide where the operators have power and final say whre the end user cant speak his mind for a second
17:05 thexyz i disagree with this point, bot doesn't send more text than human who asked it to do something
17:05 PilzAdam well, we dont need people here who dont understand how to use a bot
17:05 OldCoder Jordach, not following
17:05 OldCoder PilzAdam, they need to be educated; you are correct
17:05 OldCoder thexyz, I don't understand
17:05 Jordach we've been operating on op and not op
17:05 OldCoder Jordach, Not true
17:05 PilzAdam OldCoder, in most cases people tell them to stop
17:05 OldCoder Jordach, for me in particular... I have sought consensus
17:05 OldCoder PilzAdam, look at what is happening right now... more time wasted to bots!
17:06 thexyz OldCoder: can you provide an example of situation in which bot should be muted but one who queried it shouldn't?
17:06 thexyz OldCoder: that's because of you, right?
17:06 OldCoder thexyz, One point at a time, please?
17:06 OldCoder thexyz, can you explain the latter point?
17:06 thexyz ok, forget the second one
17:07 OldCoder thexyz, It was related to me. Was it agreement or disagreement? Please be specific in the future.
17:07 OldCoder thexyz, Regarding the first one... Enough.
17:07 OldCoder I think...
17:07 OldCoder Consensus may need to be sought on whether this divisive issue should be settled by a total bot ban
17:07 OldCoder
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17:07 OldCoder Octupus, Hello
17:08 Octupus Hello OldCoder
17:08 babyface1031 hi Octupus
17:08 thexyz OldCoder: i don't understand
17:08 Octupus hi babyface1031,did the mod mod?
17:08 OldCoder thexyz, welcome to the club :-)
17:08 thexyz it's not a bot's fault
17:09 OldCoder thexyz, who said that it was? A bot is a tool.
17:09 thexyz it's simple python script, it only does what users ask it to do
17:09 babyface1031 i got the textures ot all work now wait to see if the tree will grow
17:09 OldCoder thexyz, This is correct
17:09 OldCoder babyface1031, trees are the bee's knees :-)
17:09 Octupus http://www.youtube.com
17:09 moltenbot Octupuss link: YouTube
17:09 rubenwardy is it possible to wrap text on the forum?
17:09 Octupus Bettaaaa
17:09 babyface1031 i made a palm tree that will produce coconuts
17:10 OldCoder babyface1031, We look forward to seeing it
17:10 Octupus u need the the texture for the coconuts face
17:10 thexyz OldCoder: now, for example, it's silent and doesn't do anything
17:10 OldCoder thexyz, Yesw
17:10 OldCoder * Yes
17:10 babyface1031 but i been threw 5 day cycles and the trees still havent grown i think i go something wrong in the code
17:11 babyface1031 yes
17:11 Octupus babyface1031,maybe try a code that has abms preferabbly farming_plus
17:12 Octupus il get the code for you
17:12 babyface1031 ok ty
17:12 thexyz so, any bot fault == fault of the person who queried it
17:12 OldCoder <thexyz> i disagree with this point, bot doesn't send more text than human who asked it to do something
17:12 OldCoder Issue is not amount of text
17:12 PilzAdam i totally agree with thexyz
17:12 OldCoder It is frequency of use
17:12 OldCoder PilzAdam, thexyz If you seek consensus
17:12 OldCoder Be aware of what you are getting into
17:13 OldCoder There is more than one person
17:13 OldCoder Who will support a total bot ban
17:13 thexyz OldCoder: who?
17:13 OldCoder I strongly advise bot authors...
17:13 OldCoder To build time limit into bots
17:13 OldCoder This is a damn good idea
17:13 OldCoder
17:13 OldCoder thexyz, you are asking me...
17:13 thexyz better build time limit into people
17:13 OldCoder To spend possibly hours...
17:13 OldCoder Into dealing with this issue
17:13 OldCoder I will not
17:13 OldCoder
17:14 OldCoder If I have time...
17:14 OldCoder to spend on this project...
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17:14 OldCoder I will spend it productively
17:14 OldCoder There are patches to be made
17:14 OldCoder Worlds to be repaired
17:14 thexyz i'm just asking you to confirm that there's somebody (except you) who agrees for bots ban
17:14 OldCoder Will you damage the project by taking time away fromt hese things?
17:14 OldCoder I can name one right now
17:14 OldCoder But if I name one
17:14 OldCoder You will say
17:14 OldCoder That is just one
17:14 OldCoder Show me 2
17:14 OldCoder Show me 3
17:15 OldCoder I will not spend time on this ATM
17:15 OldCoder If you wish
17:15 OldCoder A community debate
17:15 OldCoder ...
17:15 * OldCoder pauses
17:15 OldCoder
17:15 OldCoder thexyz, now is not a good time for this. I do have issues to deal with.
17:15 OldCoder Do you wish to press this?
17:15 thexyz so, you will not even try
17:15 OldCoder Must I
17:15 Octupus babyface1031, http://pastebin.com/KGAntuv5
17:15 moltenbot Octupuss link: minetest.register_node("farming_plus:cocoa_sapling", {  description = "Cocoa Tr - Pastebin.com
17:15 OldCoder spend an hour or two
17:15 OldCoder Going through logs
17:15 OldCoder Writing essays
17:15 OldCoder To satisfy you?
17:16 OldCoder Regarding not even try...
17:16 OldCoder I am putting as much effort into this...
17:16 OldCoder as...
17:16 * OldCoder pauses
17:16 OldCoder thexyz, I will refrain from making an obvious but argumentative point
17:16 OldCoder
17:16 Octupus babyface1031,where ever u see default:desert_sand or default:sand change it to default:dirt
17:16 marktraceur thexyz: I may be the person who has started this, but my initial suggestion was to temporarily ban the people using the bot for useless things, not banning the bots themselves. I foresee use for *some* bot, even if these bots aren't useful now.
17:17 OldCoder My time is limited. More than one person hates bots per se. Bots are consuming my time. And the time of the community.
17:17 Octupus and fix it to your lking
17:17 thexyz OldCoder: it's not obvious for me
17:17 babyface1031 ok
17:17 thexyz marktraceur: i totally agree with that point
17:17 OldCoder thexyz, That is well
17:17 OldCoder This all sounds productive
17:17 thexyz i'd mute bulletrulz instead of muting the bot
17:17 OldCoder We are left with the issue
17:17 OldCoder That I have stated
17:17 OldCoder Issues, actually
17:17 thexyz but i was sleeping at that time =(
17:17 OldCoder There is such a thing as grey area
17:17 OldCoder It is not always clear
17:18 OldCoder If the person who says !bacon is at fault or the one who says !bacon is bad
17:18 OldCoder Am I to watch like a hawk
17:18 OldCoder And decide who it is
17:18 OldCoder All day long
17:18 OldCoder And then decide
17:18 OldCoder Whether to risk losing that person
17:18 OldCoder By disciplining them when it may be inappropriate?
17:18 OldCoder This is not about one instance
17:18 OldCoder I came close to kicking Mr. Rulz
17:18 OldCoder It is about the broader
17:18 OldCoder situation
17:18 OldCoder !
17:19 OldCoder
17:19 OldCoder I don't need that crap!
17:19 OldCoder D:
17:19 OldCoder
17:19 thexyz so, do you think everything was right with that discussion earlier?
17:19 OldCoder Which one?
17:19 thexyz the one I pointed you at
17:19 OldCoder There have been
17:19 OldCoder a number of bot battles
17:19 OldCoder You gave me multiple links
17:19 OldCoder And what do you mean by "right" ?
17:19 thexyz http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-06#i_2691031
17:19 OldCoder R
17:19 moltenbot thexyzs link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-06
17:20 OldCoder thexyz, I do not understand your question
17:20 OldCoder And you
17:20 Calinou why not just remove all bots, i dislike bots in general
17:20 OldCoder Have now consumed 20 minutes of my time
17:20 thexyz do you think he didn't deserve a mute?
17:20 Calinou they just clog up the channel
17:20 thexyz i'm sorry
17:20 OldCoder Calinou, thank you!
17:20 Octupus babyface1031,where ever u see default:desert_sand or default:sand change it to default:dirt
17:20 thexyz Calinou: they don't
17:20 babyface1031 ok
17:20 OldCoder thexyz, Calinou and marktraceur have bot reservations
17:21 Calinou moltenbot keeps saying something every time we paste a link for no good reason, saying the title of a page is useless
17:21 OldCoder thexyz, I have a bot of my own. But you have shifted my perspective.
17:21 OldCoder thexyz, I am not enthusiastic about the bot battles
17:21 babyface1031 but i might have them grow on sand idk yet tho
17:21 thexyz Calinou: ask his author to remove this feature
17:21 Octupus ok
17:21 thexyz OldCoder: there weren't any
17:21 Octupus did u see what i said above
17:21 thexyz (or what do you mean by "bot battles"?)
17:21 OldCoder thexyz, you have not been here
17:21 Octupus about fixing it to your liking
17:21 OldCoder 100% of the time
17:21 OldCoder I am tired of the bots issue
17:21 OldCoder It has been days!
17:22 OldCoder thexyz, if you push this
17:22 Minetest-tan GIT: celeron55 commited to celeron55/minetest: Bump version to 0.4.4 ab06fca4be 2012-12-06T11:21:10-08:00
17:22 * OldCoder pauses
17:22 thexyz aww
17:22 OldCoder thexyz, I am not going to spend my days and nights fighting over bots
17:22 OldCoder
17:22 OldCoder I got enough sh*t to deal with
17:22 OldCoder I'll mute people...
17:23 thexyz your assumption that "bot is always wrong" is incorrect
17:23 OldCoder In cases where it is absolutely clear that it is called for
17:23 OldCoder thexyz, I made no such assumption
17:23 OldCoder At all
17:23 OldCoder Read what I wrote please
17:23 OldCoder But when this hits
17:23 OldCoder Half an hour!
17:23 OldCoder This discussion is over
17:23 OldCoder You have not made points as sensible as I'd have expected
17:23 thexyz i'm sorry
17:23 OldCoder Most are perfectly clear
17:23 OldCoder And not relevant
17:23 OldCoder I apologize myself
17:24 OldCoder If this seems blunt
17:24 OldCoder But do you feel
17:24 OldCoder What you are saying
17:24 OldCoder Is not perfectly obvious?
17:24 Jordach anyone with a xchat 2 or hexchat, /ignore Minetest-tan all and /ignore moltenbot all
17:24 OldCoder Read my responses and get back to me later please
17:24 OldCoder
17:24 OldCoder I strongly suggest that bot authors
17:24 OldCoder Build time limiters into bots
17:25 OldCoder Or encourage the use of PM
17:25 OldCoder Or I may seek consensus
17:25 OldCoder On total bot ban
17:25 OldCoder
17:25 Jordach cant we just have the bot pm the data to the user?
17:25 OldCoder Jordach, as I just said above
17:25 OldCoder <OldCoder> Or encourage the use of PM
17:25 Jordach like a
17:25 thexyz Jordach: PM it
17:25 Octupus im going to make my octutool:tree now :D
17:25 Jordach OldCoder PING
17:25 OldCoder fine
17:25 OldCoder Pong
17:25 Jordach like that
17:25 marktraceur Jordach: Here's a possible issue: The bot is potentially useful for many reasons
17:26 thexyz marktraceur: +1
17:26 Jordach i know that, but, abusers seem to get away with things
17:26 marktraceur OldCoder: As an example, in #mediawiki, we have a bot that helps us veterans answer newbie-type questions
17:26 OldCoder I was to spend half an hour on Minetest work. I have a meeting in Finland now. The half an hour has been wasted. This is regrettable.
17:26 thexyz Jordach: then ban abusers, not bots
17:26 OldCoder thexyz, who is the abuser?
17:26 marktraceur OldCoder: That sort of thing would be helpful for this channel as well.
17:26 OldCoder One more time!
17:26 OldCoder marktraceur, I agree
17:26 Calinou OldCoder: huh, meeting in finland? don't you live in the US?
17:27 thexyz OldCoder: the guy who was asking it to google porn/p0rn/etc..
17:27 OldCoder thexyz: The person who says !bacon or the one who says !bacon is bad?
17:27 OldCoder Calinou, om
17:27 Octupus OldCoder,it is more important to go to Finland atm you are losing time :)
17:27 Jordach philterek is finnish
17:27 OldCoder thexyz, you are focusing relentlessly on bulletrulz
17:27 thexyz yes
17:27 OldCoder Jordach, yes
17:27 OldCoder Heh
17:27 OldCoder You are reading my blog
17:27 OldCoder :-)
17:27 OldCoder Calinou, ^ my associate is in Finland
17:27 thexyz and I'm only talking about this situation in particular
17:27 OldCoder And he is waiting for me
17:27 Jordach its #3 on chromes most visited
17:27 OldCoder thexyz, I don't give a redacted about this situation in particular
17:28 OldCoder You are focusing on an extreme instance
17:28 OldCoder Why does it matter?
17:28 OldCoder The typical case is:
17:28 Calinou internet ought to be enough for everybody
17:28 Calinou planes are fucking expensive
17:28 OldCoder Person A says: !bacon !bacon !bacon Person B says: !bacon is bad
17:28 OldCoder thexyz, ^
17:28 thexyz because bot got the mute, not man who abused it
17:28 * OldCoder sighs
17:28 OldCoder thexyz, I say this with the utmost respect
17:28 OldCoder Read what I just wrote please
17:28 OldCoder Grey areas
17:29 thexyz you should do that as well
17:29 OldCoder Grey is a color, sort of
17:29 Jordach i have a better plan
17:29 OldCoder Look, guys... Phenek is waiting for me. Not his real nick FWIW.
17:29 OldCoder I got business to attend to
17:29 thexyz OldCoder: then just leave
17:29 OldCoder and half an hour dealing with bots!
17:29 Octupus Adios OldCoder, see u soon
17:29 thexyz why are you wasting your time?
17:29 * OldCoder nods
17:29 thexyz we can talk later, of course
17:29 Jordach shush. let it drop and talk simplistic,
17:29 Jordach ah damn
17:29 Jordach meant to de; that
17:29 Jordach del
17:30 OldCoder thexyz, because dealing with you respectfully is not a waste of time. It is important. If you summon me I must reply. But please, do read what I say. You are not doing so.
17:30 thexyz it seems you're not doing it either
17:30 * OldCoder sighs
17:30 OldCoder ttys
17:30 Jordach "you get what you are given" these bots are just like that: "you type, you get"
17:31 Jordach knowing when to use them correctly = your toys will not be taken away as punishment
17:31 OldCoder Person A says: !bacon !bacon !bacon Person B says: !bacon is bad. Fights. Who is in the wrong?
17:31 Jordach neither
17:32 OldCoder Where is the line?
17:32 OldCoder Then the bot gets it!
17:32 Jordach i dislike a two party system
17:32 OldCoder Heh
17:32 OldCoder Parliament
17:32 Jordach op and no op
17:32 marktraceur Jordach: That's not a two-party system, it's an oligarchy
17:32 OldCoder Jordach, you feel slighted because you've pressed for op yourself and it has not yet been granted
17:32 Jordach stand ground until they give a reason not to
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17:33 Jordach <OldCoder> Jordach, you feel slighted because you've pressed for op yourself and it has not yet been granted - i have no need for power
17:33 OldCoder Jordach, don't feel slighted; your views are respected
17:33 marktraceur Wow, that was an accurate use of that word. /me is proud of self
17:33 Jordach the end users believe the person with the most forum posts
17:33 OldCoder Huh?
17:33 Jordach i sit at 2,500+
17:33 OldCoder Whoa
17:33 OldCoder That's a lot of text
17:33 Jordach in a year and two months
17:33 OldCoder Not bad
17:34 Jordach so im at near 3 posts a day
17:34 Jordach so that equals
17:34 jordan4ibanez sfan5, can i have today's build so i can do a let's play?
17:34 OldCoder Pretty dedicated
17:34 Jordach .c 3 * 365
17:35 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, c55 just prepares the release of 0.4.4
17:35 jordan4ibanez oh nice, when is it?
17:35 Calinou PilzAdam is a paparazzi :p
17:36 thexyz jordan4ibanez: ~15 minutes ago?
17:36 jordan4ibanez No, when is it going to be released?
17:36 thexyz https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/ab06fca4bed26f3dc97d5e5cff437d075d7acff8
17:36 Wuzzy joined #minetest
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17:37 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/PXchNeYUmPA
17:37 OldCoder mad_moo, Hi
17:37 mad_moo OldCoder: Sup
17:37 moltenbot jordan4ibanezs link: How To Kill a Mustache - YouTube
17:37 OldCoder mad_moo, what are you?
17:37 mad_moo OldCoder: I am a creature of habit
17:37 Octupus mad_moo,define juice
17:37 OldCoder mad_moo, what are you?
17:37 mad_moo OldCoder: I am proud to be hamburger goodness
17:37 mad_moo Octupus: juice (http://definr.com/juice) n 1: the liquid part that can be extracted from fruits and vegetables 2: any of several liquids of the body [syn: succus]
17:37 moltenbot mad_moos link: definr - juice)
17:37 bulletrulz joined #minetest
17:37 OldCoder Heh
17:37 Octupus BOSSS
17:37 OldCoder !joke
17:37 moltenbot "Using his trademark roundhouse kick, OldCoder  once made a fieldgoal in RJ Stadium in Tampa Bay from the 50 yard line of Qualcomm stadium in San Diego."
17:37 OldCoder Hmm
17:37 OldCoder !fortune
17:37 OldCoder mad_moo, sing
17:37 mad_moo OldCoder: Tra la la
17:37 Octupus coool
17:38 OldCoder !quote
17:38 Jordach <mad_moo> OldCoder: I am proud to be hamburger goodness - i smell OldCoder's bot
17:38 OldCoder Yep
17:38 jordan4ibanez I thought there was no bots allowed
17:38 OldCoder But the jokes aren't runjing
17:38 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, a point is being made
17:38 OldCoder Let me get the jokes working
17:38 Jordach no bot ever uses caps
17:38 OldCoder thexyz, will then understand
17:38 OldCoder mad_moo, die
17:38 mad_moo OldCoder: No, you
17:38 OldCoder mad_moo, dance
17:38 OldCoder mad_moo, tell us a joke
17:39 OldCoder Ah!
17:39 thexyz so, that's what i call "bot abuse"
17:39 OldCoder I remember now
17:39 OldCoder thexyz, I am simply patching the bot to get her started
17:39 OldCoder Events will then unfold
17:39 Jordach "her"??
17:39 OldCoder A minute or two
17:39 bulletrulz !tw jordan4ibanez
17:39 bulletrulz lol
17:39 Minetest-tan Shell Advertisement by Alex | Shell http://arcticready.com/social/5172554-because-we-dont-care-about-tomorrow-wher (@jordan4ibanez)
17:39 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Shell Advertisement by Alex | Shell Let's Go!
17:39 Jordach or maybe a few
17:39 OldCoder Jordach, Certainly. Is there a problem with a female bot?
17:39 Jordach OldCoder - i did learn to rhyme the other day
17:40 OldCoder Oh?
17:40 Jordach it was one of my tweets
17:40 OldCoder I saw a few
17:40 Zeg9 left #minetest
17:40 madmoo joined #minetest
17:40 OldCoder madmoo, Hi
17:40 madmoo OldCoder: Hey
17:40 OldCoder !joke
17:40 madmoo Famous last words: "You'll never use all that disk space."
17:40 moltenbot "In the beginning there was nothing...then OldCoder  Roundhouse kicked that nothing in the face and said "Get a job". That is the story of the universe."
17:40 bulletrulz !tw jordachsnelling
17:40 OldCoder !help
17:40 madmoo This is MadMoo, a bot based on MadCow
17:40 moltenbot Try !up <hostname.org> !teach <name> <topic> !ping <hostname.org> [<port>] !date [timezone] !define <word> !joke
17:40 madmoo To give MadMoo a command, use ! like this:
17:40 madmoo !define bacon
17:40 madmoo !time utah
17:40 madmoo etc.
17:40 madmoo You can also speak to MadMoo like:
17:40 madmoo Madmoo, define bacon
17:40 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: English friar, scientist, and philosopher whose Opus Majus argued that Christian studies should encompass the sciences.
17:40 Minetest-tan Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/jordachsnelling?1354815652.09 (@jordachsnelling)
17:40 madmoo For more about commands, use: !help toast
17:40 madmoo where toast is one of these topics:
17:40 madmoo alias area bbcnews clock cnn fortune google learn math movie nslookup seen spellcheck stock summon sunrise talk translate urban weather wikimedia wikiquotes word yelp
17:41 OldCoder !time Sri Lanka
17:41 marktraceur celeron55: So I think you're one person who will need to help figure out the following topic: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3960
17:41 bulletrulz oh i speeled it wrong lol
17:41 moltenbot marktraceurs link: Package management in Minetest (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
17:41 jordan4ibanez i wish there was a windows 64 build
17:41 OldCoder !quote
17:41 madmoo A bird in the hand is worth what it will bring.
17:41 madmoo -- Ambrose Bierce
17:41 marktraceur moltenbot: STFU.
17:41 OldCoder thexyz, enjoy our new friend :p
17:41 thexyz for sure
17:41 Jordach <bulletrulz> !tw jordachsnelling - fail
17:42 OldCoder Others:
17:42 OldCoder !calc 1+1/sin(2)
17:42 madmoo OldCoder: 2.09975017029
17:42 OldCoder She does math
17:42 OldCoder !urban food
17:42 madmoo OldCoder: [1/49] food: a substance you eat,then poop out.usually followed my a nap. - Example: hungry.....need food....
17:42 OldCoder Urban dictionary
17:42 OldCoder !last Octupus
17:42 madmoo OldCoder: Octupus was last seen 4 minutes ago on #minetest saying "coool"
17:42 OldCoder That is a useful feature
17:42 Octupus YESS WHO
17:42 OldCoder Much more
17:42 OldCoder But the best part is:
17:42 OldCoder !quote
17:42 madmoo The truth is never dangerous. Except when told.
17:42 madmoo -- Philip Moeller
17:42 OldCoder Heh
17:42 OldCoder 70 pages
17:43 OldCoder I have 35 years of jokes in her
17:43 Octupus COOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL
17:43 OldCoder This is a one time visit
17:43 OldCoder I will go to buy cola now
17:43 Octupus !quote OldCoder
17:43 OldCoder Oh, and again
17:43 OldCoder !last OldCoder
17:43 madmoo OldCoder: OldCoder was last seen 0 seconds ago on #minetest saying "last OldCoder"
17:43 Octupus uhhh no quotes bye u in there
17:43 OldCoder !quote
17:43 madmoo They say it's a small world, but I wouldn't want to have to paint it.
17:43 madmoo -- Steven Wright
17:43 Jordach OldCoder PM
17:43 bulletrulz !tw Jordachsnelling
17:43 Minetest-tan Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/Jordachsnelling?1354815820.26 (@Jordachsnelling)
17:43 OldCoder Octupus, there are under other names
17:43 OldCoder Jordach, coming
17:43 bulletrulz olo
17:43 Jordach alright
17:43 bulletrulz jordan snelling
17:44 Octupus O cool
17:44 bulletrulz !tw jordansnelling
17:44 Minetest-tan I got 637,377 points while escaping from demon monkeys. Beat that! http://bit.ly/TempleRunGame #TempleRun (@jordansnelling)
17:44 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Temple Run - App Store Redirect
17:44 bulletrulz is that u Jordach ?
17:44 OldCoder madmoo, help
17:44 madmoo This is MadMoo, a bot based on MadCow
17:44 madmoo To give MadMoo a command, use ! like this:
17:44 madmoo !define bacon
17:44 madmoo !time utah
17:44 madmoo etc.
17:44 madmoo You can also speak to MadMoo like:
17:44 madmoo Madmoo, define bacon
17:44 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: English friar, scientist, and philosopher whose Opus Majus argued that Christian studies should encompass the sciences.
17:44 madmoo For more about commands, use: !help toast
17:44 madmoo where toast is one of these topics:
17:45 madmoo alias area bbcnews clock cnn fortune google learn math movie nslookup seen spellcheck stock summon sunrise talk translate urban weather wikimedia wikiquotes word yelp
17:45 OldCoder Back in a few minutes
17:45 OldCoder Some of her Internet functions are broken
17:45 OldCoder She is being rewritten. But...
17:45 OldCoder In the end, she will be a fine cowbot. The plan is for her to be able to actually talk.
17:45 jordan4ibanez can you run a file in minetest while the game is running yet?
17:45 OldCoder Have conversations. Turing Test.
17:45 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, example?
17:46 Jordach bulletrulz now try ;)
17:46 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, maybe you can call dofile() in lua scripts in runtime, but dunno
17:46 jordan4ibanez dofile(minetest.get_mod_directory("package_management")..file_example.lua)
17:46 OldCoder !time London
17:46 OldCoder Hmm
17:46 Zeg9 joined #minetest
17:46 OldCoder Zeg9, hi
17:46 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, try it!
17:46 OldCoder madmoo, time New York
17:46 Zeg9 OldCoder, hi again
17:46 OldCoder !quote
17:46 madmoo Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.
17:46 madmoo -- Albert Einstein
17:47 OldCoder That is odd; !time is broken
17:47 * OldCoder shrugs
17:47 OldCoder I need to go buy some cola
17:47 OldCoder Back in a few minutes
17:47 bulletrulz Jordach, ur name is jordan snelling correct?
17:47 OldCoder Thanks, folks
17:47 Jordach try the twitter again ;)
17:48 bulletrulz !jordansnelling
17:48 Jordach miss
17:48 bulletrulz !tw jordansnelling
17:48 Minetest-tan For anyone who uses !tw jordansnelling please sod off. (@jordansnelling)
17:48 OldCoder !last jordan4ibanez
17:48 madmoo OldCoder: jordan4ibanez was last seen 2 minutes ago on #minetest saying "dofile(minetest.get_mod_directory("package_management")..file_example.lua)"
17:48 bulletrulz lOL
17:48 Octupus how do u make a thing burn in the furnace?
17:49 marktraceur Octupus: 1. Delve too greedily
17:49 Octupus i mean in code :l
17:49 marktraceur Octupus: 2. Be corrupted by rings of power
17:49 marktraceur Octupus: 3. Be 3 feet tall
17:49 marktraceur Oh, misread
17:49 marktraceur Thought you said "born"
17:50 Octupus XD
17:50 marktraceur Octupus: You need to register a craft recipe of type "fuel"
17:50 Octupus i want to burn leaves so make string
17:50 marktraceur It may also work if you add it to a group, but that seems pretty magical to me.
17:50 Octupus *to
17:50 marktraceur Octupus: Then you should use a craft recipe of type "cooking" instead
17:51 marktraceur Octupus: Have you read the docs?
17:51 Octupus nope
17:51 Octupus im just looking thorught code
17:51 marktraceur Octupus: If you haven't tried looking at the docs, please do that before asking questions here
17:51 marktraceur Octupus: docs/lua_api.txt in every code checkout of minetest core.
17:51 markveidemanis who wants to go on my server: with all gun mods
17:52 Jordach http://pastebin.com/ckPWkpBu Octupus
17:52 moltenbot Jordachs link: [Lua] minetest.register_craft({  type = "cooking",  output = "string:string",  reci - Pastebin.com
17:54 jordan4ibanez How does one load up a texture as the game is running?
17:54 PilzAdam you cant
17:54 jordan4ibanez nonsense, technic does it
17:54 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, official 0.4.4 build: https://github.com/downloads/celeron55/minetest/minetest-0.4.4-win32.zip
17:55 jordan4ibanez yay!
17:55 babyface1031 can anyone help me trees are growing but with out leaves http://pastebin.com/4KejvFiK
17:55 * marktraceur waves hands in air excitedly, 0.4.4 is out
17:55 Octupus babyface i just made a tree mod
17:55 Octupus its suppose to make pineapples grow on them
17:55 moltenbot babyface1031s link: minetest.register_node("palmtree:palm_sapling", {  description = "Palm Tree Sap - Pastebin.com
17:55 babyface1031 cool
17:55 Jordach !tw jordansnelling
17:56 Minetest-tan Oh fuck no. pic.twitter.com/iLNMi1Qt (@jordansnelling)
17:56 Octupus Gracias Jordach
17:56 Jordach get the OS of your dreams: Arch Linux
17:56 Octupus there no more fucking moltenbot spamming me
17:56 RealBadAngel you gonna spam yourself?
17:57 Octupus no
17:57 jordan4ibanez iron ore looks better
17:57 RealBadAngel gonna ask granpa?
17:57 jordan4ibanez realbadangel, how do you load up textures in game?
17:57 RealBadAngel not possible
17:57 RealBadAngel all have to be cached 1st
17:57 jordan4ibanez well, now the game feels like a real environment, good job every one
17:58 Octupus i need a few textures,sapling,tree,leaves,pineapple,stringshards,string
17:58 Octupus i got a few thing to do :D
17:58 babyface1031 did anyone see where i messed up with my trees they dont grow leaves?
17:59 RealBadAngel water, plants need some water to grow ;)
18:00 Jordach <jordan4ibanez> well, now the game feels like a real environment, good job every one - what do you mean?
18:00 Octupus i have so much textures to do :D
18:01 jordan4ibanez the world loads really really fast
18:01 jordan4ibanez and it doesn't lag at all, even with there being a lot of chunks loaded
18:03 PilzAdam do you use preload_item_visuals?
18:04 jordan4ibanez no
18:04 sfan5 Jordach: you have an ipad?
18:04 Jordach yes
18:04 PilzAdam pretty long changelog: http://www.minetest.net/news.php
18:04 moltenbot PilzAdams link: News - Minetest
18:05 Jordach i think i may know why minetest is faster
18:06 Jordach https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/543fc6702f4ae9ad4dbc8289b8c3ed7d8b332cb1
18:06 neko259 joined #minetest
18:06 PilzAdam ehm
18:06 rubenwardy (6:04:56 PM) PilzAdam: pretty long changelog: http://www.minetest.net/news.php
18:06 sfan5 uhh
18:06 moltenbot rubenwardys link: News - Minetest
18:06 rubenwardy pretty cool
18:08 Jordach ehm, i made the minetest_game texture why am i not in the credits, and i am particularily sure that sfan5's apple trees no longer exist, not to mention hmmmm he found the map speed boost, RealBadAngel for the 3d model finishings
18:08 Jordach i can go on all damn day.
18:09 babyface1031 can anyone help me trees are growing but with out leaves http://pastebin.com/4KejvFiK please
18:09 moltenbot babyface1031s link: minetest.register_node("palmtree:palm_sapling", {  description = "Palm Tree Sap - Pastebin.com
18:10 Jordach if i picked apart the contributors i could be here for days
18:10 * Jordach nods
18:11 xy joined #minetest
18:16 OldCoder Back
18:16 Jordach OldCoder -i've been trying more rhynmes
18:16 Jordach rhymes
18:16 OldCoder Oh?
18:16 OldCoder Rhymes all the times
18:16 OldCoder Fun
18:16 OldCoder Night or sun
18:16 OldCoder Are you done
18:16 OldCoder with rhymes?
18:17 * marktraceur throws food at OldCoder
18:17 OldCoder Heh
18:17 Jordach or perhaps the times?
18:17 * OldCoder ducks
18:17 OldCoder In you chimes
18:17 OldCoder With your rhymes
18:17 * marktraceur throws a bucket of soup at OldCoder
18:17 Jordach oh god, homing tomatoes!
18:17 * OldCoder is delighted at the soup and hopes it is tasty chicken
18:17 marktraceur Cream of OldCoder
18:17 OldCoder Ah!
18:18 OldCoder My favwite
18:18 Jordach rhymes do not cost dimes
18:18 OldCoder Indeed
18:18 OldCoder But take heed
18:18 Jordach only time
18:18 Jordach but
18:18 OldCoder They can require work
18:18 OldCoder So the rhymes should lurk
18:18 OldCoder Til they're ready
18:18 OldCoder Ahead and steady
18:18 OldCoder You plow
18:18 OldCoder Now
18:18 OldCoder what's new with Minetest?
18:18 jordan4ibanez this
18:18 jordan4ibanez is
18:18 OldCoder The game that is the best
18:18 jordan4ibanez spam
18:18 jordan4ibanez oh
18:18 jordan4ibanez how
18:18 jordan4ibanez i
18:18 OldCoder Minetest
18:18 jordan4ibanez love
18:18 jordan4ibanez bot
18:18 jordan4ibanez spam
18:18 * PilzAdam starts to cry because of this beatifull art
18:18 jordan4ibanez spam
18:18 jordan4ibanez spam
18:18 bulletrulz spam
18:18 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php
18:18 bulletrulz spam
18:18 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest
18:18 OldCoder Lovely Spam
18:19 bulletrulz lol
18:19 OldCoder bulletrulz, no
18:19 Zeg9 Can I spam too?
18:19 OldCoder Folks we got him started :-(
18:19 bulletrulz yes
18:19 bulletrulz everyone can
18:19 jordan4ibanez yay!
18:19 bulletrulz spam
18:19 Zeg9 oh
18:19 OldCoder Rhymes are not spam. But they should be limited.
18:19 Zeg9 nice
18:19 Zeg9 thanks
18:19 bulletrulz spam
18:19 bulletrulz spam
18:19 bulletrulz spam
18:19 bulletrulz spam
18:19 bulletrulz spam
18:19 bulletrulz spam
18:19 Zeg9 but I
18:19 Zeg9 have
18:19 bulletrulz spam
18:19 Zeg9 nothing
18:19 bulletrulz spam
18:19 Zeg9 to say
18:19 bulletrulz spam
18:19 Zeg9 so
18:19 Zeg9 far
18:19 OldCoder bulletrulz, no
18:19 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php
18:19 bulletrulz i
18:19 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest
18:19 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php
18:19 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php
18:19 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php
18:19 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php
18:19 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest
18:19 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest
18:19 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest
18:19 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest
18:19 bulletrulz laugh
18:19 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php
18:19 bulletrulz to
18:19 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest
18:19 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php
18:19 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest
18:19 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php
18:19 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest
18:19 bulletrulz billy mays
18:19 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php
18:19 PilzAdam left #minetest
18:19 celeron55 yay spam!
18:19 OldCoder What is the mute flag again?
18:19 bulletrulz l
18:19 bulletrulz o
18:19 bulletrulz l
18:19 bulletrulz :D
18:19 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest
18:19 babyface1031 can anyone help me trees are growing but with out leaves http://pastebin.com/4KejvFiK please and my palm tree isnt the right texture  please help
18:19 moltenbot babyface1031s link: minetest.register_node("palmtree:palm_sapling", {  description = "Palm Tree Sap - Pastebin.com
18:19 bulletrulz billy
18:19 bulletrulz mays
18:20 bulletrulz here
18:20 bulletrulz with
18:20 OldCoder Wait
18:20 bulletrulz the
18:20 celeron55 seriously, stop this
18:20 OldCoder Mute flag please
18:20 Zeg9 o.o 0.4.4 released :')
18:20 celeron55 it's +q
18:20 thexyz sure
18:20 OldCoder thexyz, thank you
18:20 PilzAdam joined #minetest
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18:20 OldCoder celeron55, ditto
18:20 OldCoder And I am sorry for getting him started
18:20 jordan4ibanezidk 0.4.fuckin4 :D
18:20 OldCoder Jordach, we'd both best limit the rhymes all the times
18:20 Jordach alright
18:21 celeron55 if somebody starts a forum thread, i'll link it on that page
18:21 OldCoder Or do them as a single line // That should be fine
18:21 OldCoder celeron55, context?
18:21 celeron55 about 0.4.4
18:21 OldCoder Ah ty
18:21 celeron55 just poke me 8)
18:21 marktraceur Y'all forgettin', not regrettin', you think you own, you're just sublettin'; I'll tell you all the way my drawl will captivate all Provencal; the question being, is it freeing, to be fighting, disagreeing? With all this linkspam, get some more RAM, and /ignore our friend Minetest-tan.
18:21 OldCoder marktraceur++
18:22 OldCoder That is pretty good!
18:22 * Jordach claps
18:23 jordan4ibanezidk Oh this version is just so fancy
18:23 jordan4ibanezidk >Improve map generation speed a lot
18:23 jordan4ibanez improved map speed a lot
18:23 Jordach http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3973 celeron55 done.
18:23 moltenbot Jordachs link: Minetest 0.4.4 IS OUT!! (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
18:23 jordan4ibanez or improved map generation speed greatly
18:24 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, its maybe this: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/b701f8a878b7c76a33d7c3540a4b5e9c6e6b31ac
18:24 jordan4ibanez No i'm talking about the actual text, it's an incorrect sentence
18:24 jordan4ibanez so on that post replace "Improve map generation speed a lot" with "improved map generation speed greatly"
18:26 dzho oh, huh:  anaglyph stereo support
18:27 dzho that sounds like it could be fun
18:27 PilzAdam I really need to buy glasses for that
18:27 dzho or make them
18:28 Jordach we need a minetest.net blog similar to how minecraft's is powered by tumblr
18:28 dzho oh great, now I'm wondering how easy it is to find rolls of the right colored cellophane
18:28 OldCoder Jordach, is there a FOSS example?
18:28 thexyz Jordach: because...?
18:29 Jordach c55.me is always dead
18:29 thexyz why do we need a blog?
18:29 PilzAdam we have this: http://www.minetest.net/news.php
18:29 moltenbot PilzAdams link: News - Minetest
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18:29 jordan4ibanez 3d, very very nice
18:30 dzho PilzAdam: am I just not seeing the RSS feed for that, or is there none?
18:30 dzho because that seems to me to be one of the requisite features of something standing in for a blog
18:34 rubenwardy The pictures on the home page could be updated with ones with shaders
18:34 babyface1031 can anyone help me trees are growing but with out leaves http://pastebin.com/4KejvFiK please and my palm tree isnt the right texture  please help
18:34 moltenbot babyface1031s link: minetest.register_node("palmtree:palm_sapling", {  description = "Palm Tree Sap - Pastebin.com
18:34 Octupus FUCK
18:35 babyface1031 Octupus: what?
18:35 jordan4ibanez yay 3d models
18:35 Octupus well i had a perfect tree set up
18:36 Octupus but it dont work
18:36 Octupus im going to make a dry shrub thingy then
18:36 babyface1031 mine messing up too the palm texture arent there and when they do grow now they dont have leaves
18:36 celeron55 dzho: i just quickly created it because my blog is down
18:37 celeron55 dzho: the blog does have rss and atom feeds :P
18:38 OldCoder Oops
18:39 OldCoder Hmm
18:39 markveidemanis hi
18:39 Octupus what mod is junglegrass from?
18:40 babyface1031 plant life hase it Octupus
18:40 Octupus gracias
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18:41 jordan4ibanez test
18:41 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, hi
18:41 jordan4ibanez boop
18:41 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, we can hear you
18:41 jordan4ibanez bleep
18:42 OldCoder ?
18:42 jordan4ibanez Oh sorry oldcoder, i am now a robot.
18:42 OldCoder Oh
18:43 jordan4ibanez celeron55 you forgot to add that fire is animated
18:43 markveidemanis who will go on my server?
18:44 Octupus i need a plantthingy
18:44 Octupus so i can make something that grows so i can make my string shit
18:45 jordan4ibanez you want to make a string http://www.paulnoll.com/Books/5000-Words/5000-pic-string.jpg Shit? http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/511065/458376.jpg
18:46 Jordach thats really weird
18:46 markveidemanis jordach
18:46 markveidemanis can you come on my server?
18:47 Jordach i get more fps in maximisation, with shaders, 3d clouds, smooth light, and fancy leaves on
18:47 markveidemanis 86.134.50.163
18:48 jordan4ibanez Mipmapping and shaders makes mintest into minecraft :3
18:48 Octupus jordan4ibanez, its for a mod im trying to make a growing node
18:48 Octupus i wanna make a grass like junglegrass
18:48 jordan4ibanez That's no string
18:49 jordan4ibanez That's an abm!
18:49 dzho celeron55: fine by me.  Just sayin'
18:49 Octupus ik but i want to make the growing plant so i can make string from it
18:49 Octupus but i am having a hard time
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18:52 Octupus GURRRRR
18:52 Jordach HURRRRRR
18:52 Octupus OHHHH ik
18:54 jordan4ibanez mark yer server is a little...slow..
18:54 jordan4ibanez JUST A LITTLE
18:55 jordan4ibanez what ever happened to c55.me
18:55 jordan4ibanez windows 7 http://www.mydigitallife.info/removewat-or-chew-wga-bypass-activate-windows-7-and-server-2008-r2-forever-loader-alternative-to-remove-disable-activation-technologies/
18:56 jordan4ibanez "so unstable, you can keep it forever for free by moving the dll that controls the liscensing and activation"
18:56 jordan4ibanez BOOM print that, that's windows 9's slogan
18:57 babyface1031 Octupus: i cant get mine to work right now too so i am going to take a break from it then look it over again a lil later
18:57 Octupus ok we will try together later
19:00 markveidemanis my server will remain up, anyone want privs, login as me ang grant yourself my name: markveidemanis
19:02 berome markveidemanis: is your server allowing PvP, and is there mobs, please?
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19:04 bulletrulz lol
19:04 bulletrulz ok good
19:07 bulletrulz hello
19:07 bulletrulz kind sir
19:09 Octupus FUCK
19:09 OldCoder What happened?
19:09 bulletrulz what? why did u say fuck
19:09 Octupus i cant get this shit to grow
19:10 bulletrulz lol :C
19:10 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, are u back on linux
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19:12 Jordach sfan5 - quickl quiz: what is ios' kernel
19:12 sfan5 ios?
19:12 Jordach yes#
19:12 sfan5 what is ios?
19:12 TheLastProject Jordach: UNIX-BSD?
19:12 TheLastProject I have no clue
19:12 Jordach TheLastProject - yes, ios is BSD
19:13 TheLastProject Oh, errr
19:13 TheLastProject Sorry for messing up your little quiz to him :P
19:13 jordan4ibanez no lol
19:13 Octupus well my dream to make a randomly spawned plant just went down like a ship shooting down a pane
19:13 Octupus *plane
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19:14 dlowe uh, no. IOS runs on Darwin
19:15 thexyz isn't it cisco os?
19:15 dlowe that's true. I forgot about that IOS.
19:15 dlowe stupid name overloading.
19:16 Jordach https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A9dGBkGCIAAlX9L.jpg:
19:17 dlowe Cisco IOS is its own thing, I'm pretty sure.
19:17 Jordach it is
19:17 dlowe Jordach: You'll find the same notice in Windows
19:17 babyface1031 what is license CC0
19:17 dlowe Creative Commons Level 0
19:18 Jordach everyone has rights
19:18 PilzAdam WTFPL but give credits
19:18 dlowe Everybody likes to use BSD's network stack
19:18 babyface1031 ok ty
19:18 dlowe That doesn't mean the thing has a BSD kernel
19:19 Jordach mmm, cola
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19:20 Jordach so apple is built from open source?
19:20 ruskie the copyright notice states that it is the bsd kernel
19:20 OldCoder Jordach, yes
19:20 ruskie Jordach, yup
19:20 Jordach O.O
19:20 ruskie ps3 also has netbsd and freebsd built in
19:20 * Jordach wonders why they are so damn expensive
19:20 celeron55 OS X and iOS are both based on BSD stuff
19:20 ruskie Jordach, because of the shiny shiny on top
19:20 bulletrulz celeron55, but bsd is based off unix
19:21 celeron55 bulletrulz: that doesn't have any relevance in terms of pricing or licensing
19:21 bulletrulz correct
19:21 bulletrulz lol
19:21 rubenwardy just went on to Redcrab 0.4.4 after months of not going on, and someone has built a bypass near my land :)
19:21 rubenwardy * :(
19:21 bulletrulz ruskie, ps3 uses a modified version of gnome
19:21 dlowe OS X is based off XNU, which was written for the NeXT
19:22 dlowe this is rather trivial information to get.
19:22 OldCoder Interesting regardless
19:22 dlowe If the PS3 used gnome, it'd have to distribute source code. All of gnome is GPLed
19:23 bulletrulz dlowe, xnu i based of bsd
19:23 Jordach *is
19:23 * dlowe is going to start a @shitminetestsays account on twitter
19:23 Jordach some nice screenies: http://i.imgur.com/QAcve.png and http://i.imgur.com/lBs4m.png
19:23 ruskie dlowe, I believe it's called a troll
19:23 bulletrulz well in the credits it says something bout using most things from the gnome project
19:24 dlowe ruskie: okay, yeah. I fell for it.
19:24 PilzAdam Jordach, shouldnt it be "an"?
19:24 Jordach i ran out of pixels
19:24 Jordach because an sounds weird IMHO
19:25 Jordach because minetest is a single entity
19:25 ruskie but yeah they have a lot of open source stuff inside the ps3 as well
19:25 Jordach which would be like saying an apple
19:25 ruskie along with a lot of games using stuff as well
19:25 Jordach where theres clearly one
19:26 Jordach because someone would say: i want a ipad for xmas. (then do, s/a/an) sounds odd dont it?
19:27 PilzAdam thats what i learned at school ;-)
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19:27 Jordach im very prickly about spelling and grammar
19:27 * Jordach almost wrote er on grammar
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19:28 markveidemanis hi
19:29 markveidemanis reply_forgot: no, no mobs
19:29 bulletrulz minetest is more funner then minecraft
19:29 markveidemanis creepers?, endermen?
19:30 bulletrulz markveidemanis, this is not minecraft
19:30 markveidemanis anyone wanna go on my server?
19:30 markveidemanis i kno, but they're pretty funny
19:31 bulletrulz Jordach, minetest is more better
19:31 Jordach brb
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19:36 Octupus GURRRRRR
19:36 Jordach HURRRRRR
19:36 Octupus im trying to get a bow
19:36 markveidemanis jordach
19:36 Octupus code
19:36 Jordach what
19:36 markveidemanis come on my server
19:37 markveidemanis 86.134.50.163:30000
19:39 markveidemanis ANYONE?!
19:39 markveidemanis 86.134.50.163:30000
19:41 OldCoder marktraceur, Once is enough
19:41 OldCoder Or once a day
19:41 OldCoder Oops sorry
19:41 OldCoder I meant markveidemanis and not marktraceur
19:42 OldCoder markveidemanis, does thexyz server page list your server? That may help
19:42 markveidemanis no.
19:42 markveidemanis no posts on my topic
19:42 OldCoder markveidemanis, Post your server in the appropriate forum and then I believe he may add it
19:42 bulletrulz the end of the world!
19:43 bulletrulz go cash out ur credit cards
19:43 OldCoder That is not for a while yet
19:43 bulletrulz and kill ur grandma
19:43 markveidemanis yessir
19:43 bulletrulz like a retard
19:43 OldCoder bulletrulz, please
19:44 bulletrulz ok srry
19:44 markveidemanis private message lol>>>
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19:48 OldCoder sfan5|OFF, c u
19:49 Octupus Me no belive in 2012
19:49 OldCoder Fair nuff
19:49 Octupus that movie was gay anyways
19:50 OldCoder Didn't see it. But they didn't really mean to say world would end in 2012. They just figured it was so far away it did not matter.
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19:53 STHGOM Hello!
19:53 OldCoder STHGOM, Hi
19:53 klunk markveidemanis: that's ok :-)
19:55 markveidemanis t
19:55 Octupus what cart mod has the Box when riding the railing it will leave the stuff in there
19:55 STHGOM does an excaimation mark show up on the little icon in the bottom-right of the screen when a friend comes on?
19:56 markveidemanis octopus: carts
19:56 markveidemanis just called "carts"
19:57 babyface1031 i think it was PilzAdam Octupus
19:58 Octupus OOO thanks
19:59 rubenwardy bye
20:00 STHGOM BYE!!!!
20:00 klunk bye, guys
20:04 Jordach hmm
20:04 Jordach yeah
20:04 Jordach i have this mod idea
20:04 Jordach does anyone want it?
20:05 bulletrulz Jordach, whats the idea
20:06 Jordach un-lumination
20:07 bulletrulz ?
20:09 babyface1031 any coders on that can help me
20:11 babyface1031 i made a trash can mod and it works good but since when you hit it the item is trash so it cant be moved
20:11 babyface1031 is there any way to make it trash everything but 1 thing
20:12 Jordach does anyone have a example for on_punch
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20:22 Octupus Jordach, can u love a code over for me
20:22 Octupus *look
20:22 PilzAdam lol?
20:23 celeron55 Jordach: what do you want to use it for?
20:23 Jordach a switch
20:23 Octupus PilzAdam,since i took it from your mod can u look it over for me?
20:23 Jordach like on and off like a door
20:24 PilzAdam Octupus, if you dont give me code i cant look at it
20:24 celeron55 sounds like something that requires the metadata preservation trick 8)
20:24 Octupus http://pastebin.com/M7XM0Jhs
20:24 moltenbot Octupuss link: minetest.register_node("octutool:box", {  tiles = {"octu_cart_top.png", "octu_c - Pastebin.com
20:24 Octupus lolz here yo go pilz
20:24 Octupus *PilzAdam srry
20:24 PilzAdam and whats the question?
20:25 Octupus well i get bad textures
20:25 Octupus they turn black
20:25 PilzAdam paramtype = "light",
20:25 Octupus O
20:25 PilzAdam replace the black nodes to see the effect
20:25 Octupus so where wud it go?
20:25 Octupus beneath nodetype
20:27 celeron55 an explanation to "why": nodeboxes look up their lighting from the node itself, and paramtype="light" must be set so that the node contains light 8)
20:27 Octupus OO gracias PilzAdam and c55
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20:28 PilzAdam gtg now
20:28 PilzAdam bye
20:28 Octupus bye
20:28 babyface1031 i got to go i will be back later
20:29 Octupus celeron55 i put paramtype = "light" and i got a error
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20:36 jordan4ibanez I wish someone would make a function to load up a chunk in a position
20:36 * jordan4ibanez breaks out into song
20:36 jordan4ibanez if only i had one wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiish
20:38 NakedFury you would wish for one more
20:39 jordan4ibanez No i'd wish for -1 wishes so i'd have infinite wishes
20:39 NakedFury and you would be wrong, you would need to wish for minus ninety nine wishes more
20:40 jordan4ibanez nakedfury play zombie master
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20:40 NakedFury then the wish master would wish you sixty five thousand five hundred wishes
20:41 jordan4ibanez No no no
20:41 jordan4ibanez No
20:41 jordan4ibanez NO
20:41 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/GpLb-_4plFg
20:41 moltenbot jordan4ibanezs link: F2P Games - Zombie Master - YouTube
20:41 Octupus can some1 tell me why my nodebox has purple in it?
20:41 jordan4ibanez It's lyke free l4d
20:41 NakedFury is it a better game?
20:42 jordan4ibanez OH it is
20:42 NakedFury I wish for a more open style survival of zombies game
20:42 NakedFury like give us a town or city and stuff to survive in it
20:42 Octupus NakedFury,how about left 4 dead
20:43 NakedFury have it but dont like it as much
20:43 NakedFury ohh and I prefer zombies not infected type zombies
20:44 VanessaE hi all.
20:44 NakedFury hi you
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20:45 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/fd9e226b794fd644e5dce578db206ddc804bd578#L1R666
20:45 * VanessaE smiles really big :-D
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20:46 * STHGOM =:D
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20:46 NekoGloop broke my foot ;_;
20:46 VanessaE Neko: owww :(
20:46 iqualfragile good work!
20:46 thexyz how about banning mods from going into "mod releases" if they use some kind of "no-derivative" license?
20:47 VanessaE thexyz: +1
20:47 iqualfragile great idea
20:47 iqualfragile but… actuay i think we should define one "right" license
20:47 NekoGloop VanessaE: I currently have crutches and a splint.
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20:47 iqualfragile and you need to release your mod under that license or wtfpl
20:47 VanessaE that in turn will lend itself to this whole mod manager thing we've been talking about lately.
20:47 thexyz iqualfragile: "one license" is bad idea
20:48 STHGOM hi Zeg9!
20:48 VanessaE iqualfragile: imho, this game is best suited to CC-BY-SA 3.0 for textures, WTFPL for code.
20:48 NakedFury how about adding minetests website address on the guiPauseManu.cpp?
20:48 iqualfragile & we (forum-admins) should require at least link to a vcs for the mod
20:48 iqualfragile i.e. git
20:49 thexyz VanessaE: not everyone is a big fan of wtfpl
20:49 iqualfragile otherwise it will be very hard work getting all mods updated
20:49 STHGOM lol nevermind
20:49 VanessaE thexyz: yeah I know.
20:49 thexyz my suggestion only affects ND part, it should be prohibited
20:49 thexyz mods with such license can exists but they won't be moved to "mod releases"
20:50 NekoGloop what if people like the code to stay as-is?
20:50 thexyz well, i don't like the NC part either
20:50 VanessaE thexyz: that much i can definitely agree on.  wtf is the point of open source if you can't actually do anything useful with it?
20:50 NekoGloop VanessaE: learning
20:50 NekoGloop Damn, my foot's going numb ;_;
20:50 VanessaE NekoGloop: -ND also means you can't use any part of the code, so learning and turning that knowledge into new code will be hampered by such licenses.
20:51 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zt2fXJVuUU
20:51 moltenbot NekoGloops link: Kasane Teto & Namine Ritsu - Matryoshka +mp3 - YouTube
20:51 iqualfragile a mix between lgpl and agpl sounds good to me
20:51 iqualfragile hey, that bot is actualy usefull, everyone gets warned about NekoGloops jrock links and does not need to open them!
20:52 VanessaE iqualfragile: agreed, finally that damn bot has a use :)
20:52 iqualfragile !lol
20:52 moltenbot "No one has ever pair-programmed with iqualfragile  and lived to tell about it."
20:52 VanessaE but those !g queries gotta go.
20:52 NekoGloop fuck you all...
20:52 NakedFury yes igualfragile thanks if that is your bot
20:52 VanessaE !g my ass
20:52 Minetest-tan VanessaE: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=my%20ass
20:52 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Urban Dictionary: my ass
20:52 VanessaE see?
20:53 iqualfragile uh, thats not my bot
20:53 thexyz VanessaE: this can be quite useful
20:53 iqualfragile my bot is able to do
20:53 iqualfragile !d apple
20:53 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: apple definition: the fleshy usually rounded red, yellow, or green edible pome fruit of a usually cultivated tree (genus '''Malus''') of the rose family.
20:53 NakedFury dont worry as long as only non abusers like you know the command we dont have to worry
20:53 VanessaE NekoGloop: fuck me?  can you read lips?  FUCK YOU! ;-)
20:53 VanessaE (apologies to Rodney Dangerfield, from whom I stole that line :D )
20:54 iqualfragile !define line
20:54 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: line definition: a length of cord or cord-like material.
20:54 NakedFury that guy had/has the most amazing last name
20:54 madmoo iqualfragile: line (http://definr.com/line) n 1: a formation of people or things one beside another; "the line of soldiers advanced with their bayonets fixed"; "they were arrayed in line of battle"; "the cast stood in line for the curtain call" 2: a mark that is long relative to its width; "He drew a line on the chart"; "The substance produced characteristic lines on the spectroscope" 3: a
20:54 madmoo formation of people or things one behind another; "the line stretched clear around the corner"; "you must wait in a long line at the checkout counter" 4: a length (straight or curved) without breadth or thickness; the trace of a moving point 5: text consisting of a row of words written across a page or column or computer screen; "the letter consisted of three short lines" 6: a single frequency (or
20:54 madmoo very narrow band) of radiation in a spectrum 7: a fortified position (especially one marking the most forward position of troops); "they attacked the enemy's line" 8: methodical reasoning; "I can't follow your line of reasoning" [syn: argumentation, logical argument, {line of reasoning}] 9: a conductor for transmitting electrical or optical signals or electric power [syn: cable, transmission line]
20:54 madmoo 10: a connected series of events or actions or developments; "the government took a firm course"; "historians can only point out those lines for which evidence is available" [syn: course] 11: a spatial location defined by a real or imaginary unidimensional extent 12: a slight depression in the smoothness of a surface; "his face has many lines"; "ironing gets rid of most wrinkles" [syn: wrinkle,
20:54 madmoo furrow, crease, crinkle, seam] 13: a pipe used to transport liquids or gases; "a pipeline runs from the wells to the seaport" [syn: pipeline] 14: railroad track and roadbed [syn: railway line, rail line] 15: a telephone connection [syn: telephone line, phone line] 16: acting in conformity; "in line with" or "he got out of line" or "toe the line" 17: the descendants of one individual; "his entire
20:54 madmoo lineage has been warriors" [syn: lineage, line of descent, descent, bloodline, blood line, blood, pedigree, ancestry, origin, parentage, stock] 18: something (as a cord or rope) that is long and thin and flexible; "a washing line" 19: the principal activity in your life that you do to earn money; "he's not in my line of business" [syn: occupation, business, job, line of work] 20: in games or
20:54 madmoo sports; a mark indicating positions or bounds of the playing area 21: (often plural) a means of communication or access; "it must go through official channels"; "lines of communication were set up between the two firms" [syn: channel, {communication channel}] 22: a particular kind of product or merchandise; "a nice line of shoes" [syn: product line, line of products, {line of merchandise},
20:54 moltenbot madmoos link: definr - line)
20:54 madmoo business line, line of business] 23: a commercial organization serving as a common carrier 24: space for one line of print (one column wide and 1/14 inch deep) used to measure advertising [syn: agate line] 25: the maximum credit that a customer is allowed [syn: {credit line}, line of credit, bank line, {personal credit line}, personal line of credit] 26: a succession of notes forming a distinctive
20:54 madmoo sequence; "she was humming an air from Beethoven" [syn: tune, melody, air, strain, melodic line, melodic phrase] 27: a short personal letter; "drop me a line when you get there" [syn: note, short letter] 28: a conceptual separation or demarcation: "there is a narrow line between sanity and insanity" [syn: dividing line, demarcation, contrast] 29: mechanical system in a factory whereby an article
20:54 madmoo is conveyed through sites at which successive operations are performed on it [syn: production line, assembly line] v 1: be in line with; form a line along; of trees along a river, etc. [syn: run along] 2: cover the interior of, as of garments: "line the gloves" 3: make a mark or lines on a surface; "draw a line"; "trace the outline of a figure in the sand" [syn: trace, draw, outline, describe,
20:54 madmoo delineate] 4: mark with lines; "sorrow had lined his face" 5: mark with lines, draw lines on; "The paper was lined" 6: fill plentifully; "line one's pockets" 7: reinforce with fabric; of books
20:54 thexyz fuck.
20:54 NakedFury omg
20:54 iqualfragile hey, we have got another bot on here
20:54 iqualfragile obviously
20:54 NakedFury what the mega fuck was that
20:54 iqualfragile -v pleas
20:54 VanessaE holy shit
20:54 iqualfragile (my bot did not spamm)
20:54 thexyz that one is OldCoder's
20:55 NekoGloop !define pie
20:55 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: A baked food composed of a pastry shell filled with fruit, meat, cheese, or other ingredients, and usually covered with a pastry crust.
20:55 madmoo NekoGloop: pie (http://definr.com/pie) n 1: dish baked in pastry-lined pan often with a pastry top 2: a prehistoric unrecorded language that was the ancestor of all Indo-European languages [syn: Proto-Indo European, PIE]
20:55 iqualfragile still -v
20:55 moltenbot madmoos link: definr - pie)
20:55 thexyz -v?
20:55 NekoGloop !define cake
20:55 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: cake definition: a breadlike food made from a dough or batter that is usually fried or baked in small flat shapes and is often unleavened.
20:55 madmoo NekoGloop: cake (http://definr.com/cake) n 1: a block of solid substance (such as soap or wax); "a bar of chocolate" [syn: bar] 2: small flat mass of chopped food [syn: patty] 3: made from or based on a mixture of flour and sugar and eggs v : form a coat over; "Dirt had coated her face" [syn: coat]
20:55 moltenbot madmoos link: definr - cake)
20:55 thexyz -v means devoice
20:55 iqualfragile jup
20:55 VanessaE +q
20:55 thexyz not quiet
20:55 NekoGloop should have said "a lie"
20:55 iqualfragile oh, right
20:55 thexyz devoice is only useful for moderated mode
20:56 thexyz or how's that one called
20:56 iqualfragile i am usualy in channels where you need to get voice
20:56 NakedFury I vote for all bots to whisper the user who uses the commands
20:56 iqualfragile i can chaneg that
20:56 VanessaE whisper?  what is this, a yahoo chat room now? :-)
20:56 NakedFury and leave the url to readable title feature intact
20:56 OldCoder Hi
20:56 iqualfragile but it would not be a great idea for some commands
20:56 NakedFury hi
20:57 OldCoder iqualfragile, I thought it was reenabled
20:57 VanessaE google and definition results definitely belong in /msg
20:57 OldCoder Is a bot still muted
20:57 thexyz VanessaE: no
20:57 iqualfragile OldCoder: DO NOT TRY !define line
20:57 NekoGloop !define point
20:57 OldCoder iqualfragile, All right
20:57 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: point definition: an individual detail.
20:57 madmoo NekoGloop: point (http://definr.com/point) n 1: a geometric element that has position but no extension; "a point is defined by its coordinates" 2: the precise location of something; a spatially limited location; "she walked to a point where she could survey the whole street" 3: a brief version of the essential meaning of something; "get to the point"; "he missed the point of the joke"; "life has
20:57 madmoo lost its point" 4: a specific identifiable position in a continuum or series or especially in a process; "a remarkable degree of frankness"; "at what stage are the social sciences?" [syn: degree, level, stage] 5: an isolated fact that is considered separately from the whole; "several of the details are similar"; "a point of information" [syn: detail, item] 6: a very short period of time; "at that
20:57 madmoo point I had to leave" [syn: point in time] 7: the object of an activity; "what is the point of discussing it?" 8: a V shape; "the cannibal's teeth were filed to sharp points" [syn: tip, peak] 9: a very small circular shape; "a row of points"; "draw lines between the dots" [syn: dot] 10: the unit of counting in scoring a game or contest; "he scored 20 points in the first half"; "a touchdown counts
20:57 madmoo 6 points" 11: a promontory extending out into a large body of water; "they sailed south around the point" 12: a distinct part that can be specified separately in a group of things that could be enumerated on a list; "he noticed an item in the New York Times"; "she had several items on her shopping list"; "the main point on the agenda was taken up first" [syn: item] 13: a style in speech or writing
20:57 madmoo that arrests attention and has a penetrating or convincing quality or effect 14: an outstanding characteristic; "his acting was one of the high points of the movie" [syn: spot] 15: sharp end; "he stuck the point of the knife into a tree"; "he broke the point of his pencil" 16: any of 32 horizontal directions indicated on the card of a compass; "he checked the point on his compass" [syn: {compass
20:57 madmoo point}] 17: a linear unit used to measure the size of type; approximately 1/72 inch 18: a punctuation mark (.) placed at the end of a declarative sentence to indicate a full stop or after abbreviations; "in England they call a period a stop" [syn: period, {full stop}, stop, full point] 19: a V-shaped mark at one end of an arrow pointer; "the point of the arrow was due north" [syn: head] 20: the
20:57 madmoo property of a shape that tapers to a sharp point [syn: pointedness] [ant: unpointedness] 21: a distinguishing or individuating characteristic; "he knows my bad points as well as my good points" 22: the gun muzzle's direction; "he held me up at the point of a gun" [syn: gunpoint] 23: (British) a wall socket [syn: power point] 24: a contact in the distributor; as the rotor turns its projecting arm
20:57 moltenbot madmoos link: definr - point)
20:57 madmoo contacts distributor points and current flows to the spark plugs [syn: distributor point, {breaker point}] v 1: indicate a place, direction, person, or thing; either spatially or figuratively; "I showed the customer the glove section"; "He pointed to the empty parking space"; "he indicated his opponents" [syn: indicate, show] 2: be oriented; "The weather vane points North" [syn: orient] 3: direct
20:57 madmoo into a position for use; "point a gun"; "He charged his weapon at me" [syn: charge, level] 4: direct the course; determine the direction of travelling [syn: steer, maneuver, manoeuvre, direct, head, guide] 5: be a signal for or a symptom of; "These symptoms indicate a serious illness"; "Her behavior points to a severe neurosis"; "The economic indicators signal that the euro is undervalued" [syn:
20:57 madmoo bespeak, betoken, indicate, signal] 6: sail close to the wind [syn: luff] 7: mark Hebrew words with diacritics 8: mark with diacritics, as of letter 9: mark (a psalm text) to indicate the points at which the music changes 10: be positionable in a specified manner; "The gun points with ease" 11: intend (something) to move towards a certain goal; "He aimed his fists towards his opponent's face";
20:57 madmoo "criticism directed at her superior"; "direct your anger towards others, not towards yourself" [syn: target, aim, place, direct] 12: give a point to; "The candles are tapered" [syn: sharpen, taper] 13: repair the joints of bricks; "point a chimney" [syn: repoint]
20:57 VanessaE SHIT!
20:57 madmoo was kicked by OldCoder: madmoo
20:57 NekoGloop >:D
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20:57 madmoo None
20:57 OldCoder Wait
20:57 VanessaE nice going iqualfragile
20:57 Jordach thats a nope
20:57 NakedFury that was evil
20:57 OldCoder Hold on
20:57 NekoGloop VanessaE: that was me...
20:57 OldCoder I'm shutting her down
20:57 NekoGloop I defined a point.
20:57 iqualfragile fu
20:58 thexyz oh, i was too late
20:58 iqualfragile !define point
20:58 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: point definition: an individual detail.
20:58 OldCoder Pacem Em Terris
20:58 OldCoder Hmm
20:58 VanessaE [12-06 15:57] <iqualfragile> OldCoder: DO NOT TRY !define {ell eye en ee}
20:58 OldCoder ?
20:58 OldCoder VanessaE, Go on
20:58 * OldCoder is confused
20:58 NekoGloop VanessaE: it was me, lol
20:58 VanessaE OldCoder: nevermind :-)
20:58 OldCoder All right
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20:58 iqualfragile yar bot does some heavy spammin
20:58 * OldCoder shrugs
20:58 NekoGloop "[15:57] <NekoGloop> !define point"
20:59 NekoGloop VanessaE: ^
20:59 Jordach i had a rhyme and lost it :(
20:59 iqualfragile back to the command-output
20:59 VanessaE NekoGloop: oh yeh, so I see now :-)
20:59 * OldCoder scrolls up
20:59 iqualfragile when you talk to my bot in private it sends you a message back in private
20:59 OldCoder Good Lord
20:59 VanessaE interesting that it answered you but not iqualfragile
20:59 NekoGloop geometry is long.
21:00 NekoGloop VanessaE: it doesnt check if the ! isnt at the beginning of the message
21:00 celeron55 22:47:57 < thexyz> how about banning mods from going into "mod releases" if they use some kind of  "no-derivative" license?
21:00 Jordach NNNNNOOOOOOOO!
21:00 iqualfragile but when you do sth. like
21:00 iqualfragile hey zxy, your server is down
21:00 iqualfragile !up xzyanana.to
21:00 iqualfragile you would expect the bot to post to the channel
21:01 celeron55 maybe i could charge money for those? 8) that's what github does too!
21:01 moltenbot Minetest server xzyanana.to:30000 DOWN
21:01 VanessaE NekoGloop: ah, I kinda figured.
21:01 VanessaE celeron55: challenge accepted? ;-)
21:01 Jordach <celeron55> maybe i could charge money for those? 8) that's what github does too! - then your going to hell
21:01 iqualfragile and
21:01 iqualfragile !teach paste
21:01 NekoGloop VanessaE: same thing with #minecraft's bot; if it isnt at the beginning, it wont say anything.
21:01 celeron55 Jordach: i do not think you understood
21:02 iqualfragile *
21:02 iqualfragile !teach zxy paste
21:02 VanessaE NekoGloop: somewhere on one of the old channels I was on, bots tended to answer regardless of where the command wedge was in the line
21:02 Jordach charge money for mods, ehm, no
21:02 celeron55 why doesn't somebody already ban these bots?
21:02 OldCoder celeron55, I'd like to
21:02 NekoGloop VanessaE: That's actually more complicated to set up
21:02 OldCoder celeron55, But there is dissension. Disputes
21:02 VanessaE celeron55: I don't care to have so many in here either.
21:02 OldCoder :-(
21:02 iqualfragile !t xyz spec
21:02 OldCoder Seriously, bot battles are no fun
21:03 thexyz OldCoder: you started it
21:03 thexyz again.
21:03 OldCoder thexyz, No. And you said you didn't want to discuss it.
21:03 OldCoder And what do you mean, again?
21:03 * OldCoder means this politely
21:03 thexyz http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-06#i_2694058
21:03 celeron55 i say choose one bot that is allowed to stay, and all else shall never come
21:03 OldCoder R
21:03 OldCoder ^ Agreed
21:03 moltenbot thexyzs link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-06
21:03 thexyz nice
21:03 thexyz i choose loggingbot
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21:04 celeron55 well, loggingbot doesn't really count, because it doesn't say anything
21:04 OldCoder thexyz, I don't understand your link. And I like a bot that stays silent.
21:04 VanessaE celeron55: moltenbot, but let's rename it or something, I think.
21:04 NekoGloop I choose Minetest-tan for the Japanese honorific in the name :3
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21:04 * OldCoder is staying out of this part
21:04 VanessaE NekoGloop: what is the difference between -san and -tan then?
21:04 iqualfragile san is less formal i think
21:04 NekoGloop VanessaE: -tan actually means -chan
21:04 iqualfragile nope
21:05 thexyz Minetest-tan is quite useful because she posts git repo updates
21:05 NekoGloop iqualfragile: -san is more formal, actually.
21:05 iqualfragile other way round
21:05 VanessaE I *do* like the git commit messages - that's useful information there.
21:05 NekoGloop one bot with the functions of them all
21:05 VanessaE can't we just combine the useful functions and distill it down into one bot?
21:05 NekoGloop start a git repo; #minecraft's bot is on git
21:05 Jordach hmm, yeah, git is handy
21:05 VanessaE NekoGloop: one bot to rule them, and in the caves bind them? ;)
21:06 iqualfragile i dont think there wouldbe a problem keeping both bots
21:06 Jordach more like the mesecons to remember
21:06 iqualfragile sfan5 and i have talked a bit and agreed wich bot fullfills wich functionality
21:06 Jordach anyways, im off
21:06 iqualfragile night
21:06 iqualfragile so they would cooperate
21:07 celeron55 having one bot the code of which is hosted on git sounds like a good idea
21:07 iqualfragile we have allso agreed on using the ! as first char of a command so its an uniform interface
21:07 NekoGloop https://github.com/grickit/Gambot #minecraft's bot
21:07 VanessaE iqualfragile: yeah, sounds good to me.
21:07 iqualfragile minetest-tan is just some python-based-bot wich was modified a bit
21:08 VanessaE every other bot out there I've seen uses ! for the command wedge.
21:08 iqualfragile my moltenbot was hacked together in bash
21:08 NekoGloop VanessaE: #minecraft uses &. A tad annoying.
21:08 iqualfragile even the network-connectivity uses bash
21:08 iqualfragile i have no problem with publishing the sourcecode
21:08 OldCoder iqualfragile, I'd say go with Python
21:09 OldCoder Convert to Python and add pieces from other bots sensibly
21:09 OldCoder Emphasis on sensibly
21:09 iqualfragile but its actualy quite comfortable to use bash as its great for processing strings
21:09 VanessaE I guess the days of eggdrop bots are long over huh? :)
21:09 iqualfragile and irc consists of strings
21:09 celeron55 i maintain an eggdrop bot on c55.me
21:09 celeron55 8)
21:09 iqualfragile eggdrop?
21:09 celeron55 haven't used it on minetest channels though
21:09 OldCoder iqualfragile, True. But this will be a shared bot. Perl and Python are good for strings; better than bash and powerful.
21:09 VanessaE ok not completely gone :D
21:09 iqualfragile !ping c55.me its down, i guess
21:09 OldCoder eggdrop is historical
21:10 celeron55 eggdrop is like magic
21:10 NekoGloop eggdrop?
21:10 moltenbot host c55.me DOWN
21:10 celeron55 nobody understands how it works, but still it does work no matter what
21:10 OldCoder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggdrop
21:10 moltenbot OldCoders link: Eggdrop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
21:10 VanessaE that's the one.
21:10 OldCoder http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9a/EggheadsEdwardEDropLogo.png/125px-EggheadsEdwardEDropLogo.png
21:10 OldCoder Nearly 20 years old now
21:11 NekoGloop should have an einstein moustache.
21:12 NekoGloop Doing a report on this: http://www.2facts.com/icof_story.aspx?PIN=i1300590 , wish me luck
21:12 moltenbot NekoGloops link: Infobase Learning - Login
21:12 NekoGloop oh right, lol, you cant see it without logging in
21:12 OldCoder Good luck
21:12 iqualfragile .aspx i do wish you luck
21:12 NekoGloop sucks to be you
21:12 Octupus OC,update on octutool
21:12 OldCoder Octupus, Pulling now
21:12 Octupus :)
21:13 OldCoder Looks good. I'll back up the worlds in the next hour or two. Mods will be updated then.
21:13 OldCoder Anybody who wishes updates or new mods feel free to post
21:14 Octupus :D
21:14 Octupus gracias otra ves
21:15 Octupus (Thank You Again)
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21:15 OldCoder Muadtralk, Hi
21:16 Muadtralk ello
21:16 * VanessaE looks at one of her new pills - 40mg omeprazole ..  fucking HORSE PILL! :-)
21:20 Octupus Hi Muadtralk
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21:23 VanessaE hey Muadtralk.
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21:33 jordan4ibanez fuck
21:37 VanessaE problem?
21:37 jordan4ibanez Is there a server with factions that isn't slow?
21:38 jordan4ibanez Like, i wish minetest did what minetestservers.com did and had you register your server, then pinged the server as the page loaded and stuff
21:38 VanessaE dunno
21:39 jordan4ibanez And to register your server you have to have it online, then post the ip adress to the application, and have the server that hosts the server list ping the minetest server, and if it doesn't show don't allow them to register
21:40 VanessaE well aside from not really understanding the point of clans/factions, it's easy enough to send thexyz a private msg to ask that some server be added to his monitoring page
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21:41 OldCoder Uberi, Hi
21:41 Uberi aww yeah 0.4.4
21:41 Uberi hey OldCoder
21:41 VanessaE Uberi: yes!
21:41 jordan4ibanez There is a wiki, a blog, a forum, a download section, a news section, and an api section, all that needs to be done is a server list (NOT THE FORUM) and an official mods list (STABLE MODS) in the front page
21:41 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: There's a topic on the forum about package management.
21:41 Uberi does c55 know his blog is down?
21:42 jordan4ibanez No, i mean a webpage that's linked from minetest.net
21:42 VanessaE he knows c55.me is down, in general yeah
21:42 thexyz of course he doesn't
21:42 thexyz feel free to report it to him
21:42 VanessaE now I guess he knows about the blog :D
21:42 thexyz 1000th time
21:42 jordan4ibanez http://www.planetminecraft.com/resources/mods/ Example :3
21:42 moltenbot jordan4ibanezs link: Recently Updated   Minecraft Mods - PlanetMinecraft.com
21:42 Uberi well you know what they say
21:42 Uberi thousandth time's the charm
21:43 jordan4ibanez NO UBERI
21:43 Octupus hi Uberi
21:43 jordan4ibanez NO
21:43 jordan4ibanez but hi
21:43 Uberi o/
21:43 jordan4ibanez \o
21:43 jordan4ibanez Oh sorry, i thought you were giving me a high five
21:44 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Best method for ensuring stable mods is to use package management, not some web page. Downloading dependencies shouldn't be difficult. http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3960
21:44 moltenbot marktraceurs link: Package management in Minetest (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
21:44 marktraceur moltenbot: STFU.
21:44 Uberi it's sort of a cross between a high five and a wave
21:44 jordan4ibanez marktraceur that's too complicated
21:44 Uberi hey when did this bot get here
21:44 MiJyn hi all
21:44 Uberi hey MiJyn
21:44 jordan4ibanez a player would install so many mods they would crash their game for sure
21:44 MiJyn Why isn't there a sitting key
21:44 MiJyn ?
21:45 MiJyn Or a /sit command?
21:45 MiJyn It's possible to do that in LUA
21:45 Uberi well for one, 3D players is relatively new
21:45 MiJyn Uberi, but it has a sitting animation
21:45 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: That's their own problem. If you install 3 TB of packages on any system, it'll crash. The best we can do is inform the player that they don't have enough disk space for the operation and let them nail their own coffin.
21:46 jordan4ibanez see that's just not right
21:46 * Uberi goes off to read the new lua_api.txt
21:46 jordan4ibanez andddddd
21:46 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: what could be easter than minetest-get install hdx-textures farmingplus homedecor ... ?
21:46 jordan4ibanez and and and
21:46 VanessaE and have it track all the dependencies
21:46 jordan4ibanez minetest will crash if it has too many mods
21:46 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: But "too many" is a function of the user's hardware, not a hard limit. Right?
21:47 jordan4ibanez NO
21:47 VanessaE marktraceur: if that isn't obvious, I favor an apt-get-like method with a comparable command-line tool for the purpose, if an in-game mod manager isn't practical.
21:47 jordan4ibanez my mod pack, i had to stop it because 32 bit minetest would run out of memory and CRASH
21:47 jordan4ibanez and i have 8 gb of ddr3
21:47 marktraceur VanessaE: apt-get was one solution I presented, but it may be too complex, and we'd need to bundle it with Minetest, so rolling our own seems like a good idea
21:47 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: upgrade to an AMD64 OS.  that's where the problem is.
21:47 VanessaE you NEED AMD64 ro use more than 4GB
21:47 VanessaE to*
21:48 jordan4ibanez vanessae, i have amd64 os, idk what you are talking about lol
21:48 Uberi what about PAE?
21:48 jordan4ibanez minetest just cannot handle a shit ton of mods
21:48 jordan4ibanez I'm using windows 7 64 bit god damn it, it's not my os
21:48 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Maybe the problem is that you're using too much memory in your mods, not that loading X number of mods will crash the game
21:48 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: I have a shitton of mods on my 4GB box, totalling over 1400 items.  Plus 256px HDX textures.
21:48 VanessaE MT doesn't crash, because I use an AMD64 OS *and* an AMD64 build of MT.
21:48 VanessaE marktraceur: indeed, and apt is probably overkill for our needs anyway
21:49 jordan4ibanez It's not my fucking mods, it's not my os, it's not anything about me my computer, etc, we need a fucking 64 bit minetest for windows afkjsdgkljsdfjklasdfk
21:49 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: {{SOFIXIT}}
21:49 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: use a better OS where we can actually build for AMD64 without tearing out our hair :-)
21:49 NakedFury a 64bit minetest verison would be appreciated
21:49 marktraceur (context https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Sofixit)
21:49 jordan4ibanez BUT if a 32 bit minetest user installs a shit ton of mods, because they are easy to use, and ends up freezing up their computer, and loosing data, then that is just not right
21:49 Uberi is there an x64 MT build for linux?
21:49 jordan4ibanez s/loosing/losing
21:50 VanessaE Uberi: I can supply such if so desired.  Give me 2 minutes.
21:50 Uberi well not that it matters to me, on my x86 box
21:50 jordan4ibanez I cannot compile 64 bit minetest, i asked sfan5 to help me but he just gave up
21:50 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Then they need to be aware of the limitations of their system. They need to do that with the normal, stone-age method of mod installs, too.
21:50 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: I refuse to be held accountable for others' lack of inhibition and caution.
21:50 jordan4ibanez No no no, it's not the limitation of their system, it's the limitation of 32 bit
21:50 Uberi no need VanessaE, I have no means of running such a binary anyways :P
21:50 jordan4ibanez 32 bit minetest cannot handle a lot of mods
21:51 VanessaE uberi: there is now:  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/builds/minetest_20121206-1_amd64.deb
21:51 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: 32 bit being part of the system, I'd say they're responsible for understanding that limitation as well.
21:51 jordan4ibanez You're arguing against the scale of safety
21:51 VanessaE that's git pulled about an hour ago.
21:51 jordan4ibanez Which doesn't make any fucking sense
21:51 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: can you run that ^^^^ via an emulator/VM?
21:51 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: How would you have me determine the safety of a mod? Run it in a sandbox minetest instance and determine its memory load? That's infeasible.
21:51 Uberi VanessaE: that was fast!
21:52 VanessaE Uberi: I have a fast box and checkinstall makes packaging builds as easy as it could hope to be :-)
21:52 jordan4ibanez What, in 32 bit minetest, we should have a warning "If you install too many you could freeze your computer, WE WARNED YOU!" ? Am i right? lulz
21:52 jordan4ibanez Marktraceur: exactly! That's why a package manager is a terrible idea lol
21:53 jordan4ibanez Package management is great for things!
21:53 jordan4ibanez linux, FANTASTIC!
21:53 Uberi plus the mod can detect sandboxing and not do the malicious stuff for that
21:53 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: We'll obviously make sure the mods in the repository aren't awful and shitty and memory hogs
21:53 jordan4ibanez windows, it's nice!
21:53 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Which I guess is not so good for your mods, but even so
21:53 Uberi there's no automated way of doing that without running into the Halting problem
21:53 jordan4ibanez minetest, it's a horrible idea
21:54 jordan4ibanez You'd need ppas to add in other mods and shit, just fucking bad
21:54 VanessaE you know, a PPA for a mod repository doesn't sound like such a bad idea.
21:54 VanessaE sudo apt-get install minetest-mod-homedecor minetest-mod-moreblocks minetest-textures-hdx [...]
21:55 marktraceur VanessaE: Essentially that's what I'm suggesting, but it should be hosted on minetest.net if possible
21:55 VanessaE marktraceur: surely there's a way to interface windows to such a thing?
21:55 marktraceur VanessaE: Also I'd prefer to have a matching git host and bug tracker
21:55 Uberi I like the current way of doing it, personally
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21:55 Uberi git pull <GITHUB URL>
21:55 jordan4ibanez You people are like talking about a way to cut off windows, and macOS
21:55 marktraceur VanessaE: Yes, Cydia is also an apt-get client and runs on non-GNU systems, it's just a matter of using a different build
21:55 jordan4ibanez it makes no sense
21:55 marktraceur Uberi: And for those of us who use gitorious
21:56 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: No, Windows and Mac OS X are perfectly capable of running apt-get
21:56 thexyz how should we handle conflicts? dependencies?
21:56 Uberi marktraceur: meant to say <GIT URL> :)
21:56 VanessaE jordan4ibanez:  [12-06 16:55] <VanessaE> marktraceur: surely there's a way to interface windows to [apt]?
21:56 marktraceur thexyz: apt-get is good at that
21:56 VanessaE so, no.
21:56 thexyz what if some mod exists only as git repo without any versioning
21:56 Uberi you could easily have an update script, of course
21:56 marktraceur Uberi: Better!
21:56 VanessaE no one wants to cut windows out of the loop, even if it IS obsolete. ;-)
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21:56 marktraceur thexyz: It's up to a packager to help get it in the repo
21:56 Uberi yep the install base is a force to be reckoned with
21:57 marktraceur thexyz: We can write a script to help
21:57 jordan4ibanez That's not the point, we want more users, this would absolutely push away a shit ton of new users
21:57 thexyz say, version (sha1-hash) of mod1 is only compatible with (sha1-hash) of mod2
21:57 VanessaE thexyz: if it doesn't have a version number, use the last commit date as the version?
21:57 VanessaE (date+time)
21:58 thexyz writing this system is not a big problem, but who will maintain it?
21:58 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: What on earth are you talking about? Making it easier (even trivial) to change the game is a *good* thing.
21:58 * STHGOM IS BORED
21:58 thexyz test mods for conflicts, whatever..
21:58 VanessaE thexyz: therein lies the rub.
21:58 marktraceur STHGOM: Thanks for the input
21:58 thexyz answer is "nobody" i guess
21:58 STHGOM you're welcome :)
21:58 marktraceur thexyz: The answer is more like "the community"
21:58 thexyz that's even more vague
21:58 marktraceur thexyz: Debian has a vibrant packaging and testing community, we have the same
21:59 thexyz debian is A BIT more popular
21:59 marktraceur thexyz: Developers can help package things that need packaging, users can report bugs.
21:59 thexyz probably
21:59 thexyz it should be decentralized too, of course
22:00 marktraceur thexyz: Anyone can host a repository for apt-get, it's just a matter of users configuring their clients.
22:00 thexyz yes
22:00 thexyz are you planning to use apt-get?
22:00 marktraceur thexyz: It seems like a good choice, but I'm still open to other suggestions.
22:00 thexyz that can be done by a single python script
22:00 thexyz (with tons of libraries required, of course)
22:01 marktraceur thexyz: Yes, in fact, I already did exactly that
22:01 marktraceur thexyz: I think others have, too.
22:01 jordan4ibanez Are you guys talking about building this into the game?
22:01 Uberi the most important thing, of course, is that it's easy enough to use that you can convince modders to use it over these post attachments and file uploading sites
22:01 celeron55 what if a user chokes to death on a usb dongle that contains minetest?
22:01 marktraceur thexyz: But I also think it could be more complete if we used an existing solution, not to mention easier on whoever steps up to develop it
22:01 Uberi if it's too complicated, well then people are just going to continue to use what's easy
22:01 thexyz Uberi: that won't be easier
22:01 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Eventually it could be, but for now it would likely be a separate utility
22:02 Uberi celeron55: well we already disclaimed warranty with the GPL :P
22:02 celeron55 there will always be ways to misuse software 8)
22:02 jordan4ibanez Oh okay, how would you guys build apt-get into minetest without a windows or mac user having to install it externally?
22:02 Uberi or make it optional and provide the old download method for users who want it
22:03 celeron55 are you people seriously suggesting use of the debian package manager software for minetest mods?
22:03 jordan4ibanez This is why i am stressing out celeron55 lol
22:03 Uberi I mean, if people find it more convenient, then it's more convenient
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22:04 marktraceur celeron55: I asked for your input, if you have some, you should offer it
22:04 celeron55 jordan4ibanez: don't worry, the reason why minetest is popular is because i make it accessible for all OSes 8)
22:04 marktraceur celeron55: It's also used in other places, so it's not so far-fetched to use it for this.
22:05 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: And yes, if we used this system it would either be part of a separate install for the package manager (and everyone would need exactly one step, building the package manager), or part of the normal Minetest build process.
22:05 jordan4ibanez Okay good c55
22:06 celeron55 if minetest gets centralized package management, it will be a specific thing built into/with minetest like minetestserver
22:07 celeron55 the server side is debatable
22:07 celeron55 probably some http thing
22:07 Uberi oh hey the render distance tuner is fixed!
22:07 Uberi awesome!
22:07 Louis_ Hey
22:07 marktraceur celeron55: From what I understand, there are nice ways to build an apt-get style package repository that's essentially just flat files, and it also offers nice utilities for adding and removing packages.
22:08 MiJyn Sit mod done
22:08 thexyz USE="microcontroller gate -delayer" minemerge mesecons
22:08 thexyz ^^
22:08 Uberi got a link, MiJyn? I'd like to see that
22:08 celeron55 thexyz: oh dog
22:08 MiJyn Uberi, it's a hack of player.lua
22:08 Uberi ah
22:08 thexyz just joking..
22:08 MiJyn gotta test it again
22:08 VanessaE thexyz: byte your tongue!
22:09 VanessaE :)
22:10 MiJyn bugs: you can move while sitting
22:10 MiJyn you can't tell if you are sitting or not, only the others can
22:10 VanessaE MiJyn: you can also move around while "dead"/lying.
22:10 Louis_ Has anyone considered the re-addition of the minetest to Wikipedia? Minetest seems to pass the policy by more than a mile.
22:10 marktraceur celeron55: Are you going to weigh in on the forum post, or just come in and mention some vague disapproval of using apt-get?
22:10 jordan4ibanez well if we could see ourself with a different camera angle that'd be smashing lol
22:11 Uberi Louis_: I thought it already had a page?
22:11 Louis_ Deleted a few months ago. Thats why I am asking if anyone considered re adding it.
22:12 Uberi what was the reason?
22:12 VanessaE Uberi: not notable enough, not enough third-party reliable references.
22:12 Uberi whoa, you're right, it's not there
22:12 VanessaE rubenwardy has a copy of it on his namespace though
22:12 Louis_ Deleted by a consensus of idiots.
22:12 thexyz http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minetest
22:12 MiJyn It works!!!
22:13 VanessaE MiJyn: what works?
22:13 celeron55 Louis_: can you make a list of references that is considerably better than what the article had?
22:13 Uberi hey that even has 0.4.4 in there
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22:13 MiJyn VanessaE, the sit mod
22:13 Octupus hi babyface1031
22:13 celeron55 because it kind of wasn't up to wikipedia's standards
22:13 VanessaE oh ok
22:13 babyface1031 hi Octupus
22:13 Louis_ Ok. One moment (Well not better but different ones)
22:13 thexyz by the way, what's the name of minetest? is it minetest or minetest-c55?
22:14 babyface1031 can anyone help me with my mod
22:14 celeron55 thexyz: "Minetest"
22:14 jordan4ibanez babygace1031 sure
22:14 marktraceur babyface1031: Just ask!
22:14 jordan4ibanez babyface1031 sure
22:15 babyface1031 so is there anyway to add something sayong it will trash everything but a pick
22:15 thexyz celeron55: seems that readme.txt is a bit outdated then
22:15 thexyz it also points to >http://c55.me/minetest/download
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22:15 celeron55 maybe you should fix it, then? 8)
22:15 M13_ How do you run the minetest mapper?
22:16 M13_ celeron55, my school made a minetest server for the network :P
22:16 thexyz celeron55: sure
22:16 Octupus hi M13_
22:16 Uberi hey M13_
22:16 babyface1031 here is the code http://pastebin.com/GL3YqfFc
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22:17 Louis_ To be honest, Most of these will improve Minetest's notability - http://bit.ly/UqjcCE (Link shortened)
22:17 thexyz celeron55: should Wiki point to minetest.net developer wiki or wiki.minetest.com?
22:18 Uberi the latter is much more comprehensive
22:18 celeron55 thexyz: i guess you could point to both as community and developer
22:18 jordan4ibanez The new website looks nice
22:20 Louis_ So Celeron55, If some of those links are added to the artile and then it is created, It should be fine.
22:20 M13_ yes it does, who did it, celeron55?
22:20 celeron55 Louis_: if the same wikipedia guys notice it - no, it won't be fine 8)
22:20 M13_ celeron ps celeron processors suck 8)
22:20 Louis_ If the notability is improved, Regardless who finds it, It should ne fine as a community consenus.
22:20 marktraceur Louis_: Maybe helpful that the FSF bulletin included a mention
22:21 Louis_ ^ Yes indeed.
22:21 marktraceur Louis_: http://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2012/fall/new-libreplanet-gaming-server-running-minetest
22:21 celeron55 minetest would need to get onto some large (as in lots of money, because the en.wikipedia.org are money-loving americans) game or linux publication
22:21 bulletrulz minetest takes more cpu then Minecraft
22:21 marktraceur bulletrulz: "than", dear.
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22:21 bulletrulz lol
22:22 Louis_ Trust me Celeron55, It will be fine.
22:22 Minetest-tan GIT: xyzz commited to celeron55/minetest: Update README 1d13d106dd 2012-12-06T14:20:42-08:00
22:22 Uberi wow how many bots are there in here now
22:22 thexyz celeron55: you should also update github repo description
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22:22 marktraceur celeron55: You may want to contact some proper GNU/Linux radio shows or podcasts and talk it up
22:22 babyface1031 sorry about that i timed out
22:22 Uberi hey babyface1031
22:23 babyface1031 so i didnt see any of the sugestion anyone made sorry
22:23 babyface1031 hi Uberi
22:23 celeron55 marktraceur: i don't like doing that kind of stuff; but i don't mind some experienced member of the community doing tht
22:23 celeron55 +a
22:24 OldCoder babyface1031, wb
22:24 * marktraceur knows he doesn't mean me, so he must mean VanessaE
22:24 babyface1031 ty OldCoder
22:24 VanessaE heh
22:24 OldCoder marktraceur, He means anybody who would do a credible job
22:24 VanessaE that leaves ME out :)
22:24 marktraceur OldCoder: In celeron55's head, that specifically excludes me :/
22:24 * VanessaE != "credible job"
22:25 VanessaE :)
22:25 celeron55 marktraceur: well, you are one, as long as you keep your FOSS stuff at a reasonable level
22:25 marktraceur Not that I'm not doing my own public display of affection for the project, but that's a separate thing
22:25 celeron55 if somebody goes to advertise FSF in the name of minetest, that i do not approve
22:25 marktraceur celeron55: Exactly
22:25 Louis_ VanessaE, I think you said you wont edit Wikipedia again but for Minetest, A fine try?
22:26 VanessaE Louis_: I won't edit Wikipedia at all anymore.
22:26 VanessaE I gave up on doing so.
22:26 marktraceur VanessaE: That makes me sad! What causes such an outlook?
22:26 Louis_ So not even a try to attempt to get Minetest on there for some prolonged time?
22:27 VanessaE marktraceur: two words:  fucking deletionists.
22:27 VanessaE Louis_: I poured everything I knew about the game into that article and it wasn't enough, so I have to let someone else try.
22:27 celeron55 "the president of the united states didn't say this; let's get rid of it!"
22:28 OldCoder Heh
22:28 marktraceur VanessaE: Well, leaving won't help, then there are fewer inclusionists! :)
22:28 OldCoder marktraceur, Needs an organized counter effort
22:28 Louis_ Hm. Why not put Minecraft up for deletion. It is clearly not notable, Just a new 'trick' to get the small games out of the world.
22:28 celeron55 i'd just suggest Louis_ to try including more references to the article and putting it up
22:28 OldCoder It is a thought. But perhaps better to demonstrate notability for MT.
22:28 celeron55 it doesn't need a "support group"
22:29 babyface1031 i have a mod i need some help with, it is a trash can and when you hit it it deletes the item from you inventory but becuase of this it cant be destroyed so is there any way for the code to say everything but a pick or even a certin typ of pick?
22:29 VanessaE marktraceur: well to that end, I have too strong a connection to MT for the deletionists' taste, so my commentary was discarded entirely out of hand.
22:30 Louis_ Just suggest Minecraft for deletion. Simple. We dont lose anything.
22:30 celeron55 Louis_: what do you expect to gain with that
22:30 thexyz Louis_: there was some discussion about minecraft http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Minetest
22:30 VanessaE Louis_: MC has coverage in lots of important media sources as well as, of course, being a rather large cash cow.
22:30 celeron55 in wikipedia's rules, minecraft clearly is notable; it has many large game magazines and whatever as references
22:31 Uberi babyface1031: just check it with puncher:get_wield_item
22:31 Louis_ Anything is better than just sitting here doing nothing.
22:31 celeron55 minetest doesn't quite compare with the popularity of minecraft: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=minetest,minecraft
22:31 celeron55 8)
22:31 thexyz "linux format" magazine once wrote about Minetest
22:33 VanessaE celeron55: that said, notice the top "related terms" entry? :-)
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22:34 VanessaE hell the whole set of related terms for that matter
22:34 OldCoder mauvebic, Hi
22:34 Louis_ thexyz has a good suggestion there. Add that and it can carry that source's notability into Minetest
22:34 celeron55 VanessaE: umm?
22:34 mauvebic hey oldcoder
22:34 VanessaE celeron55: on my screen, I see a whole bunch of minetest references in that section.
22:35 celeron55 VanessaE: look at the tab bar that you can find by following the line above to the left
22:35 VanessaE oh fuck. :-)
22:35 * VanessaE is blind.
22:35 mauvebic mmm, bar tab
22:35 celeron55 you fail, officially
22:35 VanessaE oh shush :-)
22:36 jordan4ibanez back when i played minecraft 1.3 we called this oldskool style water http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=1iDg9xWi
22:36 Louis_ Why not get Rubenwardy's minetest article and just move it into the article space. If it gets up for deletion, Move it back to the user space.
22:36 celeron55 however, it is interesting to compare the popularity of "wiki", "mods", "server" and stuff like that in the related terms of minetest vs. minecraft
22:36 celeron55 they score differently in there
22:37 mauvebic prolly cuz we dont have as many servers
22:37 mauvebic on at the same time i mean loll
22:38 celeron55 Louis_: add all references you can find and try it
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22:40 babyface1031 i fixed it ;D Thank you guys :D
22:41 babyface1031 anyone want to test it out
22:42 jordan4ibanez what is it?
22:42 babyface1031 a trash can mod
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22:46 jordan4ibanez sounds...
22:47 jordan4ibanez trashy
22:47 jordan4ibanez OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
22:47 Uberi :O
22:47 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Your jokes are rubbish.
22:47 jordan4ibanez I get it! You could say they're, TRASH!
22:47 jordan4ibanez ooooooooooooooooooooooooooioioioioiooooooo!
22:47 Uberi :OO
22:48 marktraceur babyface1031: So you're taking advantage of Lua's excellent garbage collector, then? :)
22:49 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez,
22:49 jordan4ibanez bulletrulz,
22:49 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez,
22:49 marktraceur marktraceur,
22:49 bulletrulz lol
22:49 jordan4ibanez iamwieners123,
22:49 babyface1031 there was a mod that we liked on the server but some ppl did nt like the texture so i re did the texture and made where you could destroye it adn re did the craft
22:49 bulletrulz babyface1031,
22:49 babyface1031 bulletrulz:
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22:51 OldCoder LAD, wb
22:51 OldCoder I will restart the worlds shortly for backup and to update octutool. Does anybody wish other updates?
22:51 bulletrulz OldCoder,
22:51 bulletrulz babyface1031,
22:51 bulletrulz bulletrulz,
22:51 bulletrulz bulletrulz,
22:52 bulletrulz LAD,
22:52 OldCoder bulletrulz, don't push it
22:52 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez,
22:52 bulletrulz ok kind sir
22:52 babyface1031 OldCoder: what about the mod i made or can you look at it Octupus tryed it before i made it moveable and it worked
22:52 simion314 Uberi: Hi, I am wondering about the refactoring you talked about, any plans to refactor the pistons? I was thinking that it would be nice to have pistons that can reach more, like 2,3,4 blocks
22:52 OldCoder babyface1031, I missed it. Link, please.
22:53 babyface1031 http://www.mediafire.com/?2x3l1d1l55le1z4
22:53 Octupus LADDDDDDD
22:53 Uberi simion314: I dunno, I think that would be too OP
22:53 Octupus YAY
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22:53 Uberi as it stands I think movestones are pretty ridiculously powerful
22:53 OldCoder babyface1031, reviewing
22:54 Uberi if it were up to me I'd remove them entirely, but apparently some people use them on their maps
22:54 jordan4ibanez How would a trash can be op? :O
22:54 OldCoder babyface1031, is this based on the other trash? Wasn't there a problem with that one?
22:54 jordan4ibanez Make it so the trash mod explodes if it's full :3
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22:54 simion314 Uberi: I will try movestones then
22:54 babyface1031 the problem with th other one is you couldnt destroye ot and the texture was the nyan cat
22:55 MiJyn I edited the player breathing animation so it doesn't look obscene
22:55 babyface1031 i change both things
22:56 OldCoder babyface1031, preparing to install. Allow a little longer.
22:56 babyface1031 ok
22:56 LAD minetest 0.4.4 is broken for me
22:57 jordan4ibanez PREPARE, for you're dume
22:57 jordan4ibanez LAD how so?
22:57 MiJyn does anyone care for the .X file?
22:57 MiJyn of the edited animation?
22:57 LAD 1 sec ill upload a pic
22:57 MiJyn It looks a bit like MC
22:57 jordan4ibanez the X Files?! :O
22:57 MiJyn the character.x one
22:57 MiJyn lol
22:58 LAD go to this linkl
22:58 LAD http://i.imgur.com/mK7w9.png
22:58 celeron55 disable shaders
22:58 MiJyn @LAD, nether? xD
22:58 LAD no
22:58 LAD uploaded anew world on minetest 0.4.4 and this happend
22:59 jordan4ibanez Video card?
22:59 celeron55 for some reason your video drivers aren't able to load the shaders
22:59 LAD mine are all updated just got a new computer yesterday
22:59 celeron55 you can see irrlicht's output in the command line window
22:59 LAD hmmm
22:59 jordan4ibanez What is your video card?
22:59 LAD idk let me a see
22:59 jordan4ibanez Well first, what is your operating system?
23:00 LAD wait you said the shaders right
23:00 LAD hmmm lets see if swift sharder will help it word
23:01 jordan4ibanez Idk, listen to c55 lol
23:02 LAD nope did't work
23:02 MiJyn @c55, why did you add shaders anyways?
23:02 celeron55 because they can be disabled
23:02 jordan4ibanez LAD, what operating system are you on?
23:02 MiJyn but seriously
23:03 LAD uhhh i fell an upchuck coming
23:03 celeron55 have you tried to play with them?
23:03 MiJyn yeah
23:03 LAD windows
23:03 LAD feel*
23:03 jordan4ibanez Okay lad, launch minetest like you would when you get that weird glitch
23:03 jordan4ibanez The shaders look really nice btw
23:04 LAD thanks c55
23:04 celeron55 MiJyn: can you tell me why i would not have added them?
23:04 LAD you know you could have told me they can be ternd off before
23:05 LAD hmmm
23:05 jordan4ibanez Well, let's see what the output of irrlicht is LAD lol
23:05 LAD what
23:05 Octupus LAD,may with me
23:05 Octupus *play
23:06 jordan4ibanez Nevermind -_-
23:06 LAD lol thats what she said
23:06 LAD XD im just easing yea Octu
23:06 Octupus XD
23:06 Octupus ik
23:06 LAD teasing*
23:06 LAD stupid keybord
23:06 marktraceur LAD: Are you a Dodgers fan, or paying homage to generic Pokemon NPCs?
23:06 LAD uhhhhh
23:06 LAD 1:that was random
23:07 Octupus brb
23:07 LAD ok
23:07 marktraceur LAD: Pseudo-random, at best
23:07 LAD ummm
23:07 LAD i realy dont like both of thoughs
23:07 marktraceur LAD: What is your nick, then?
23:07 LAD oh
23:07 LAD XD
23:07 jordan4ibanez bbl\
23:08 LAD my girldfriend gave it to be
23:08 LAD it stands for laugh all day
23:08 marktraceur Ah.
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23:08 marktraceur If she's half the typist you are, I can see why she'd feel the need to abbreviate that.
23:08 babyface1031 what do you need to down load to get sound
23:08 * marktraceur stops :)
23:09 LAD for minetest
23:09 babyface1031 yes
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23:09 LAD it should be in already but  know
23:09 LAD openAL
23:09 babyface1031 Dogzilla131: ^
23:09 Dogzilla131 yes
23:09 LAD you need the openAL
23:09 babyface1031 openAL
23:10 Dogzilla131 ok but still no sound
23:10 mauvebic weird openAL works for MT but not return castle wolfenstein :/
23:10 LAD lol
23:10 mauvebic i know that games even older than you guys lol
23:11 mauvebic anyone remember wulfram?
23:12 MiJyn http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3976
23:12 Octupus Hi Dogzilla131
23:12 mauvebic what exactly was the player doing while breathing?
23:15 OldCoder U.S. worlds shutting down. Not for too long.
23:15 MiJyn http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3977
23:15 OldCoder Everybody out of the pool.
23:16 Octupus OC will they be updating to 0.4.4
23:16 OldCoder Octupus, Only when there is LevelDB support and the code is also a bit more stable
23:16 OldCoder Worlds need to work. That is the important thing.
23:17 Octupus ok cool
23:17 VanessaE OldCoder: I expect when hmmmm gets his new mapgen done and merged into master is when we can expect to start talking about using leveldb
23:17 OldCoder VanessaE, all right
23:17 * OldCoder is updating mods 'n' stuff
23:17 VanessaE brb
23:20 mauvebic is there a public server with like, a huge-ass city?
23:21 OldCoder mauvebic, how huge?
23:21 marktraceur Huge ass-city!?
23:21 OldCoder A few of my worlds seem large
23:21 mauvebic like coruscant
23:21 mauvebic or cybetron (how you see it) lol
23:21 OldCoder babyface1031, Octupus Worlds restarting. Test trashman and octutool please
23:21 marktraceur 'm not sure the game has been out long enough to build Coruscant.....
23:21 OldCoder * trashcan
23:21 mauvebic i cant build fast enough either lol
23:22 Octupus i shall do thatnow
23:22 VanessaE mauvebic: redcrab's server is pretty sizable
23:22 mauvebic same map? coool
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23:24 mauvebic we need a mod that builds cities by itself lol
23:24 marktraceur mauvebic: FWIW I'm trying to build massive things on the LPGC server, but it's hard with only me working on it
23:24 mauvebic marktraceur they got WE?
23:24 marktraceur mauvebic: There is 'towntest', which would be useful with some modifications for that purpose
23:24 marktraceur mauvebic: C'est quoi, "WE"?
23:25 mauvebic sorry WE = world edit
23:25 marktraceur mauvebic: Not a one, no
23:25 mauvebic shiiiit
23:25 mauvebic must take a while to build stuff
23:25 marktraceur mauvebic: That's the point of the game!
23:25 mauvebic even with a world editor, i cant build em fast enough
23:25 mauvebic well i get more of a kick out of exploring the worlds than building them tbh lol
23:26 marktraceur mauvebic: Then never mind :)
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23:26 mauvebic but towntest, how big are the buildings it plops?
23:28 mauvebic i do get somewhat of a kick outof building stuff, i just dont like the repetitive tasks lol carpel tunnel both hands lol
23:29 VanessaE does anyone have that tool I saw a while back that can generate minetestmapper's colors.txt automatically?
23:29 VanessaE (or a link to it anyway)
23:29 babyface1031 ok i will
23:30 mauvebic something that makes a list of nodes?
23:30 Octupus OldCoder,u did it again :D
23:30 OldCoder Oh? Good
23:32 babyface1031 they both work:D
23:32 mauvebic is someone working on a lua mapgen? i thought i saw something about that earilier
23:33 VanessaE mauvebic: dunno.
23:34 mauvebic i was thinking about that last week, dont know how much slower it would be but worth trying
23:35 mauvebic i kinda envy the wicked mountains they have in MC lol
23:38 VanessaE heh
23:39 VanessaE well I've seen some nice stuff come out of MT's map generator too, so..
23:40 mauvebic ive seen people playing with the seed and getting something nice yeah but it does nothing for me :-/
23:41 mauvebic lotsa hills few mountains
23:41 VanessaE one of my old, long-since-lost maps, had some nice formations
23:42 mauvebic yeah i remember one of the 0.3.x's gave some pretty funky maps :-)
23:42 mauvebic i built a greecian city on a mountain :-)
23:42 mauvebic its in receivership now :(
23:44 mauvebic shouldn't joke actually golden dawn is some scary shit
23:50 berome VanessaE:you searched a comand line tool (for map) ?
23:50 berome like this :http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2896
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23:51 NakedFury mauvebic: user hmmm was working on a rework of the mapgen in c++
23:51 NakedFury don't know how that is going
23:51 mauvebic but hes doing it in C++ or lua?
23:52 mauvebic or she
23:52 NakedFury c++ he/she
23:53 marktraceur It
23:53 mauvebic was gonna say lol
23:53 NakedFury he/she/it
23:54 mauvebic hmm
23:54 marktraceur mauvebic: No, hmmmm
23:54 VanessaE berome: no, I meant I thought remembered seeing a tool somewhere that would generate the colorx.txt file from the textures
23:54 mauvebic a lua mapgen would be cool for all modders
23:55 VanessaE colors.txt rather.  which would then be passed to minetestmapper.py.
23:55 mauvebic though i dunno whats easier, porting the present one or trying from scratch in lua
23:56 VanessaE hm..  anaglyph colors can't be tuned yet? :(
23:56 MiJyn well, yeah
23:56 MiJyn if you recompile :P
23:56 VanessaE well..
23:56 NakedFury Its name is usually hmmm with 3 or 4 or he can go with more, depends of its mood
23:57 berome VanessaE :-) I havn't well understand...
23:57 mauvebic my country: https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=2807+boul+perrot,+quebec&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=45.351512,-73.952579&amp;spn=0.006492,0.006191&amp;sll=45.351961,-73.953223&amp;layer=c&amp;cbp=13,85.21,,1,16.07&amp;cbll=45.351971,-73.953205&amp;gl=ca&amp;hnear=2807+Boulevard+Perrot,+Notre-Dame-de-l'%C3%8Ele-Perrot,+Vaudreuil-Soulanges,+Qu%C3%A9bec+J7V+8P4&amp;t=m&amp;z=17&amp;panoid=wOlvMLKHrDZFyUJAfmJxSA
23:58 NakedFury my god
23:58 NakedFury nasty
23:58 mauvebic loll
23:58 NakedFury and the blurry part sucks too
23:58 mauvebic plumbers gotta keep fit too lol
23:58 STHGOM joined #minetest
23:58 NakedFury god im blind now
23:59 STHGOM hi
23:59 VanessaE celeron55: preload item visuals as set via the checkbox doesn't seem to be saved to the config anymore.
23:59 VanessaE (but the saved value from the config does work and shows in the checkbox)

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