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00:01 Dogzilla131 nobody can help
00:01 VanessaE give people time to look
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00:01 Dogzilla131 ok
00:01 Dogzilla131 hi
00:01 Dogzilla131 octu
00:01 Octupus Hello
00:03 Octupus yes Dogzilla131
00:05 babyface1031_ hi Octupus
00:05 Octupus hi babyface1031_
00:15 Octupus I MADE CAKE WOOOT
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00:16 Octupus i feel like a bows
00:16 Octupus *bowss
00:21 OldCoder bows?
00:21 OldCoder bowws?
00:22 OldCoder Boss!
00:23 Octupus yes :)
00:24 * khonkhortisan just found a webchat that requires registration and closes after 25 minutes of inactivity
00:25 VanessaE why not just use an IRC client?
00:26 NakedFury hexchat is good
00:27 * Octupus is using hexchat and loves it :D
00:29 Octupus btw Hi OldCoder
00:31 VanessaE Xchat Is Your Friend â„¢
00:31 VanessaE :)
00:31 OldCoder So is HexChat
00:32 iqualfragile http://jit.si
00:32 moltenbot iqualfragiles link: Jitsi (SIP Communicator) | Register / Register
00:33 iqualfragile ah, no, that one does not even support irc
00:33 iqualfragile but many other protocolls
00:33 iqualfragile my bad
00:33 iqualfragile http://pidgin.im
00:33 moltenbot iqualfragiles link: Pidgin, the universal chat client
00:34 iqualfragile night
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00:47 VanessaE zzz
00:57 Octupus no1 join 30004 it is running /clearobjects
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00:58 VanessaE evening poolGokeN
00:58 Octupus hi nekogloop
00:58 VanessaE :-)
00:58 NekoGloop EassenaV ,gnineve dooG
00:58 VanessaE heh
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01:04 babyface1031_ Dogzilla131 did you find the mistake
01:05 Dogzilla131 yes
01:05 Octupus i helped :D
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01:10 Octupus hi davidpace
01:10 davidpace Hi
01:11 VanessaE hi davidpace
01:11 davidpace hi
01:11 davidpace VanessE
01:11 davidpace *VanessaE
01:14 Octupus hi muadtralk
01:14 NakedFury is the carts mod stable?
01:14 Octupus IM THE FIRST 1
01:14 VanessaE NakedFury: no.
01:14 Muadtralk ello
01:14 Octupus Wooooooy
01:14 Muadtralk carts are somewhat stable
01:14 VanessaE NakedFury: it doesn't crash the server but it's buggggggy
01:14 Muadtralk kinda wobbly
01:14 NekoGloop Meow.
01:15 Octupus davidpace,i seeu play on grief server
01:15 Muadtralk i have an idea on how to make the carts smoother
01:15 VanessaE Muadtralk: that's because that front left wheel keeps wobbling while you push it around
01:15 davidpace PvP i sfun
01:15 davidpace *is
01:15 davidpace *fun
01:15 Octupus lol
01:16 davidpace why?
01:16 Octupus because u spelt 2 words wrong :)
01:16 Muadtralk if one could make the upward rail you know the diagonal one? if someone used the slope nodebox ive seen around and made that part of the rail solid.... then it would make upward and downward climbs much more enjoyable
01:16 davidpace Oh :-)
01:17 Octupus c:
01:17 davidpace And you spelled spelled and you wrong :-)
01:18 davidpace silence....
01:19 NekoGloop Shush.
01:19 Muadtralk would this not be a good idea?
01:19 davidpace Every
01:20 davidpace More, Silence....
01:22 davidpace Peaceful, very peaceful...
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01:22 davidpace_ Hi Again :-)
01:23 Octupus hi
01:23 davidpace_ Still Silence...
01:23 davidpace_ Oh my, HI
01:23 davidpace_ I didn't see you say hi
01:23 davidpace_ :-)
01:25 Octupus babyface1031,did the server give the messgae now?
01:26 VanessaE bbl
01:26 Octupus adios
01:26 Octupus Bye every1
01:26 Octupus need to get the resto for tomorrowo
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03:11 bulletrulz hillo
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03:40 NekoGloop Meow.
03:50 VanessaE back.
03:54 NekoGloop Meow.
03:56 VanessaE meow.
03:56 NekoGloop No, you have to say it with emphasis. Like this: "Meow"
03:57 VanessaE <subscript><font weight="light" color="#555555">meow.</font></subscript>
03:58 NekoGloop Heh.
03:59 NekoGloop I just dont understand how people can stand to play minecraft on anything but peaceful.
04:00 VanessaE and this, my friend, is why I don't want any hostile mobs in my game :-)
04:01 NekoGloop I mean, not so much the mobs.
04:01 NekoGloop The hunger.
04:02 NekoGloop You run out before the first day is even done.
04:02 VanessaE meh, take your hunger and your thirst and your drowning and...well..find a suitable place to shove them. :-)
04:02 NekoGloop There's a thirst mod... :P
04:02 VanessaE I know.
04:03 VanessaE and a drowning mod.
04:03 VanessaE and a suffocation mod.
04:03 NekoGloop No, i mean for minecraft.
04:03 VanessaE oh.
04:05 NekoGloop Of course, i'm horrible at any game.
04:06 NekoGloop I'd probably lose in pong against the CPU.
04:06 VanessaE I think I do well at building stuff, but put me in a pvp situation and I will get my ass thoroughly kicked.
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04:48 * NekoGloop pokes bulletrulz with a dog
04:50 * NekoGloop pokes VanessaE with #YOLO
04:50 VanessaE ow.
04:51 VanessaE (besides, I plan to live at least 10-20 more lives after this one ;) )
04:53 NekoGloop http:/​/​www.youtube.com/​watch?​feature=​related&​v=​UFwPvSGXP_A Would be a wonderful idea for a game.
04:54 NekoGloop For me that link doesnt seem clickable...? :P
04:54 VanessaE *looks at URL*  wtf?  firefox barfs on that and xchat didn't make an actual link out of it like usual
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04:55 NekoGloop Never mind.
04:59 NekoGloop Anyway: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMvb5vEeKI8
05:02 * NekoGloop puts a plate on VanessaE's head
05:07 telek Anyone run minetest on an SGX graphics chip?
05:07 telek IE iPod, various Android Phones, certain Atom based netbooks?
05:07 NekoGloop I highly doubt it
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05:32 krayon VanessaE: NakedFury: UTF8 maybe?  Looks crap to me too but I don't do UTF-8, hence my assumption.
05:34 VanessaE krayon: from here it looks like a normal URL but firefox makes a mess of it...percent this, percent that
06:18 VanessaE hey sfan.
06:19 sfan5 hi
06:20 sfan5 a modification i made for the Minetest-tan Bot was merged :)  https://github.com/sbp/phenny/pull/24
06:21 VanessaE er..ok
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06:37 VanessaE bbl
06:37 VanessaE bedtime.
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08:53 OldCoder what time does Zeg9 show up?
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08:53 telek OC: Looks like between 7 and 10 hours from now.
08:54 telek Mind you that's just off a couple days of backlog, so YMMV.
09:11 jin-xi cd
09:11 jin-xi oops wrong window
09:14 OldCoder telek, Thank-you!
09:14 * OldCoder is asleep and will dream of mods 'n' databases
09:14 telek OC: Np. Have a good night :)
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10:09 Fabiter Hey ho! :)
10:09 Fabiter Allright?
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10:30 * telek waves.
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10:50 redcrab Ooops I currently testing 0.44 dev When I start one player it is ok , but If there is a second one .. there is nothing on screen (black screen) and I ve "peer_id=3: failed to emerge player" message on the first player ... what's append ?
11:10 Fabiter :D
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12:00 NekoGloop Meow.
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13:11 NekoGloop Meow.
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13:37 markveidemanis hi
13:38 markveidemanis can i speak to a minertest developer please?
13:38 markveidemanis *minetest
13:38 markveidemanis celeron55
13:39 markveidemanis realbadangel
13:40 markveidemanis RealBadAngel
13:40 markveidemanis sfan5?
13:40 sfan5 markveidemanis: yes?
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13:41 markveidemanis sorry closed chat
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13:42 NekoGloop markveidemanis: What the hell do you want from him?
13:42 markveidemanis sfan5: sorry i closed the tab
13:42 markveidemanis would it be possible to run the minetest inventory on the client side rather than the server side
13:43 sfan5 what do you mean with "run?
13:43 markveidemanis because some servers lagg and i cant properly switch the inventory
13:43 markveidemanis render
13:43 markveidemanis so the client manages the inventory
13:43 markveidemanis and sends to server as soon as possible
13:44 markveidemanis not a (laggy) connection to the server
13:45 markveidemanis sfan5?...
13:46 sfan5 ...
13:46 markveidemanis read...
13:46 sfan5 i did
13:46 NekoGloop So you wanna be able to haxxor your inventory client-side?
13:46 markveidemanis would it be possible with the current system
13:46 sfan5 it would
13:46 markveidemanis yep, if server laggs, the inventory will take longer to update
13:46 sfan5 but the client could just be like "lets fill the inventory with mese" and the server won't notice
13:47 markveidemanis is there a mod/command
13:47 sfan5 the server could verify all actions made client-side
13:47 sfan5 but that is VERY CPU intense
13:47 sfan5 ...
13:47 markveidemanis yep, just saying to make inventory update faster
13:47 markveidemanis you woulden't be able to cheat unless u have give priv or creativbe
13:47 sfan5 this would give the client complete control over the items in the inventory
13:48 markveidemanis hmmm...
13:48 sfan5 the client can fill the inventory with mese and send that to the server
13:48 markveidemanis but...
13:48 markveidemanis like minecraft does
13:48 sfan5 verifying all actions done client-side is too CPU intese to be done
13:48 markveidemanis and how could u cheat??/
13:49 sfan5 modify the code?
13:49 sfan5 markveidemanis: minecraft does it the same
13:49 markveidemanis that would require access to the server's players file
13:50 sfan5 NO
13:50 sfan5 *no
13:50 NekoGloop Modify it so that the player gets a crapton of mese in the inventory?
13:50 markveidemanis could you alter it to "visually" manage inventory client side, like not waiting for server whan dragging an item
13:50 sfan5 NekoGloop: yes
13:50 NekoGloop Could you calm your tits and just play the damn game?
13:50 sfan5 markveidemanis: that would be possible
13:51 NekoGloop The devs dont give two shits.
13:51 sfan5 that would an client-side event buffer
13:51 markveidemanis is there a code?
13:51 sfan5 "a code"??
13:51 markveidemanis nvm
13:51 markveidemanis like lua
13:51 markveidemanis LUA. lua?
13:51 NekoGloop The above person is batshit insane.
13:52 sfan5 inventory is not done lua side
13:52 sfan5 its done in c++
13:52 NekoGloop You cant do that from lua, dimwit.
13:52 markveidemanis could you make a mod
13:52 markveidemanis or addon
13:53 NekoGloop Are you dense or something?
13:53 NekoGloop IT CANNOT BE DONE FROM LUA.
13:54 markveidemanis sfan5 click my name and query
13:54 NekoGloop markveidemanis: Um, he doesnt have to.
13:54 NekoGloop It's perfectly explainable here.
13:54 sfan5 ...
13:54 sfan5 right
13:54 markveidemanis ko
13:54 markveidemanis ok
13:55 NekoGloop And as i've said twice now, that cant be done from lua.
13:55 markveidemanis C++
13:55 NekoGloop Thrice now, actually.
13:55 NekoGloop markveidemanis: but still not as a mod you dimwit
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14:09 OldCoder Good morning
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14:14 markveidemanis lol
14:14 markveidemanis its 2:14
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14:18 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
14:20 babyface1031 hi
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14:39 OldCoder babyface1031, Hello
14:39 OldCoder PilzAdam, What's up
14:39 babyface1031 hi OldCoder
14:39 thexyz dafuq
14:39 thexyz where's my bot
14:40 OldCoder thexyz, hi
14:40 thexyz OldCoder: hello
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14:46 thexyz .g pr0n
14:46 Minetest-tan GIT: matttpt commited to celeron55/minetest: Add #include guards to base64.h a47b829040 2012-12-03T09:44:54-08:00
14:46 Minetest-tan GIT: PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Use the group attached_nodes 3928eccf74 2012-12-01T05:39:23-08:00
14:47 thexyz !g pr0n
14:47 Minetest-tan thexyz: Gross!
14:47 thexyz aww
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14:49 Minetest-tan GIT: matttpt commited to celeron55/minetest: Add #include guards to base64.h a47b829040 2012-12-03T09:44:54-08:00
14:49 Minetest-tan GIT: PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Use the group attached_nodes 3928eccf74 2012-12-01T05:39:23-08:00
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15:01 OldCoder AndrewPH, hi
15:06 cmacis I forgot to bring torches on a trip to my lavapool. Not a problem. I had a pickaxe and buckets. Maybe not the best idea ever, but awesome lighting
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15:34 Taoki I have a question. Has anyone tried to set player size to be 2 times bigger, and the camera to be positioned twice taller? I'm sorta curious about the idea of a game where voxels could be made twice smaller by default...
15:34 Taoki As an idea / curiosity / comcept
15:35 NakedFury or make the voxels half the size they are now and the player and camera stays the same
15:36 Taoki Yeah but that's not currently possible
15:36 Taoki And likely never will be
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15:37 Calinou hi
15:37 Taoki hi
15:37 Calinou yey, i got a new message on my wikiversity talk page
15:37 Calinou wikimedia, the fuel of the internet
15:37 Taoki bbl
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15:47 PilzAdam Jeija, any atempts
15:47 PilzAdam to move the mesecon functions to nodedef?
15:47 PilzAdam *attempts
15:47 Jeija well I actually got something
15:48 Jeija but no I didn't change the mesecons functions yet
15:48 Jeija I first want to make a clear draft for my idea
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15:58 Jordach hello all
16:01 kobold_ so... i am a pretty newbie programmer and i like this game and thinking about making a mod. is there any current projects i could try my luck with?
16:02 PilzAdam hi Jordach
16:02 kobold_ i am not that good yet however
16:04 Calinou kobold_: any current projects, what do you mean?
16:05 kobold_ well i would like to contibute making this game better
16:05 kobold_ but i am not so good yet so maybe some small mod?
16:05 Calinou to make mods you use lua
16:05 Calinou to contribute to the engine/make engine mods you use C++
16:05 PilzAdam are you good at drawing 16x16 wheat textures?
16:05 kobold_ i know some lua and i am horrible and drawing
16:05 Calinou feel free to search on forums, there are some modding tutorials out there
16:06 PilzAdam the best tutorial is reading mods
16:06 kobold_ i have read some mods and i understand them somewhat
16:07 kobold_ but i need a project and i have no idea what to do. so any suggestions?
16:07 PilzAdam new trees
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16:07 kobold_ what kind of trees?
16:08 PilzAdam birch, oak,...
16:09 kobold_ yea i guess i could try that... thank you :) i post it later on the formus if i succed.
16:09 PilzAdam its just a random idea that come to my mind
16:09 Calinou if you know C++, you should contribute to the engine instead
16:09 Calinou we have a lot of mods already
16:09 Calinou github.com/celeron55/minetest < github
16:09 kobold_ my c++ knowledge is only very basic
16:10 kobold_ maybe later when i know more
16:10 kobold_ i would defiently wanna try when i am good
16:11 kobold_ well bye gonna try to do it.
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16:25 Zeg9 Hello!
16:25 john_minetest Hi
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16:30 Zeg_ o_o computer crash
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16:39 rubenwardy hi all. Any news?
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16:42 markveidemanis hi
16:42 markveidemanis jordach
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16:43 markveidemanis Jordach
16:44 Jordach i love cock
16:44 markveidemanis lol
16:45 markveidemanis goto query
16:45 rubenwardy shaders <£
16:45 rubenwardy <3
16:46 markveidemanis jordach go to the quuery
16:47 markveidemanis who can help me test my server??
16:47 Calinou canyouseeme.org
16:47 Calinou :p
16:48 markveidemanis who can help me test MY server??
16:48 markveidemanis if it works, u get 2 b admin
16:48 Calinou lol
16:49 Calinou just test with camyouseeme.org to see whether your port is forwarded or not
16:49 markveidemanis in minetest or http??
16:50 babyface1031 what are dry shrubs good for?
16:50 rubenwardy 0.4.3 is great !
16:50 rubenwardy i mean, 0.4.4 is great!
16:51 Zeg9 lol
16:51 rubenwardy a bit faster, i think
16:51 Zeg9 Both are great, but 0.4.4 is better.
16:51 OldCoder Zeg9, hi
16:52 OldCoder Zeg9, I think you may have given me an incorrect link
16:52 rubenwardy new style water!
16:52 rubenwardy shaders!
16:52 OldCoder Zeg9, may I have the link for the latest version of "Places" ?
16:52 markveidemanis how do i see my internet address
16:52 markveidemanis like 90-27-23-32e
16:52 markveidemanis not ip
16:52 rubenwardy papyrus are 3d!
16:53 Calinou what do you mean by internet address?
16:53 Zeg9 OldCoder, hi
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16:54 markveidemanis like 30-a3-35-s3-d4
16:54 markveidemanis not the IP
16:54 markveidemanis i...idk
16:54 Jordach ffs
16:54 Calinou papyrus is not 3D for me rubenwardy
16:54 Calinou is it a mod?
16:54 Jordach who stole meh keyboard
16:54 * Jordach is pissed
16:54 Jordach +again
16:54 rubenwardy i got minetest_game from celeron
16:54 rubenwardy and I have the shaders branch
16:55 Jordach take a photo
16:55 Jordach then we'll see
16:55 rubenwardy PilzAdam: have you thought about making plants wither (ie: turn to weeds after a while, when left complete)
16:55 rubenwardy ok
16:55 Zeg9 OldCoder, here it is: http://ompldr.org/vZ2tjdg
16:55 OldCoder R
16:55 PilzAdam rubenwardy, i have thought about it, but IMO its not neccesarry
16:56 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/papyrus.png
16:56 Jordach rubenwardy thats 3dforniture
16:56 rubenwardy oh
16:56 Jordach it redefines default:papyrus
16:56 rubenwardy idiot me
16:57 OldCoder Zeg9, all right: Drop inv_improved. Add places. Add inventory_plus. Add what else?
16:57 Zeg9 OldCoder, bags, bridges, and camouflage please
16:58 OldCoder k
17:00 rubenwardy 0.4.4 is a big improvement. Well done pilzadam
17:00 rubenwardy and others
17:00 OldCoder Zeg9, do you mean: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3637
17:00 moltenbot OldCoders link: [Mod] Camouflage Mod [camomod] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
17:00 * VanessaE peeks in
17:00 Zeg9 OldCoder, yeah, this one :)
17:00 PilzAdam hi VanessaE
17:01 VanessaE good ...um...some part of the day :-)
17:01 * Jordach hates it when my pc is hijacked
17:02 rubenwardy replacements work! although, it only replaced one of my buckets
17:02 rubenwardy i had two
17:02 rubenwardy just cooking my raw tomato soup...
17:04 Zeg9 OldCoder, reading fastly the code, it seems the password are hashed in sha1 before they are base64'ed
17:04 Calinou rubenwardy: lolunity
17:05 Calinou (that was necessary, yes.)
17:05 rubenwardy what?
17:05 rubenwardy in the screen shot?
17:05 OldCoder Zeg9, Calinou: ^ ?
17:05 OldCoder Zeg9, the new website removes them before display regardless
17:06 Zeg9 Yeah, anyway, just felt the need to check ... in case it was cached on some diabolic place ^^
17:10 OldCoder VanessaE, the sample plantlife world I created has a tendency to crash. Not sure the mod is safe yet.
17:11 rubenwardy PilzAdam, it would be great if there was a new folder in minetest called "log" and minetest logged to a debug <date> .txt in it
17:13 VanessaE OldCoder: pull from git, the copy I'm running here seems stable?
17:13 OldCoder Hmm
17:13 VanessaE I pushed a moderate refactoring of the mod this morn.
17:13 OldCoder k
17:14 OldCoder VanessaE, git link?
17:14 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife
17:14 OldCoder babyface1031, I am shutting down the worlds for backup and update
17:14 OldCoder VanessaE, ty
17:14 babyface1031 ok
17:15 OldCoder VanessaE, I do this:
17:15 OldCoder mkdir -p  $TEXTUDIR                                     || exit 1
17:15 OldCoder pushd     $TEXTUDIR                                     || exit 1
17:15 OldCoder rm -fr all                                              || exit 1
17:15 OldCoder unzip -qo $MODMASTER/NakedFury/dokutest.zip             || exit 1
17:15 OldCoder unzip -qo $MODMASTER/VanessaE/hdx64part.zip             || exit 1
17:15 OldCoder unzip -qo $MODMASTER/RealBadAngel/rbalava.zip           || exit 1
17:15 OldCoder Where TEXTUDIR is minetest_game/mods/default/textures
17:15 OldCoder In theory your textures should take precedence over dokutest
17:15 OldCoder I am told they are not showing up
17:15 OldCoder Hmm
17:15 OldCoder Actually never mind; I need to look at this further
17:17 VanessaE lemme go look
17:17 PilzAdam rubenwardy, why dont you write a script that uses --lofile option of minetest to start minetest?
17:17 babyface1031 has anyone tested this mod out and can tell if it is safe and dont crash or lag servers http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804
17:17 moltenbot babyface1031s link: [Modpack] Industry Pack 0.1.1 (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
17:17 VanessaE OldCoder: addr+port?
17:17 OldCoder VanessaE, I am restarting the worlds in a few minutes; you can check minetest.org 30004 then
17:17 rubenwardy i did not know that was possible
17:17 OldCoder Backing up now
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17:19 OldCoder Worlds restarting with Bridges added; Home Decor and Places updated; also other changes to Zegaton
17:19 OldCoder VanessaE, check your textures in minetest.org 30004 please
17:19 VanessaE OldCoder: checking...
17:20 babyface1031 ok cool
17:21 VanessaE where the...?
17:22 VanessaE no good, OldCoder...  I am not seeing my textures at all, I'm seeing what I presume are dokutest.
17:22 VanessaE hm, what provides this snow biome?
17:25 VanessaE also, your texture for snow on top of dirt-with-grass is messed up
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17:26 VanessaE looks like a simple resolution mixup -- the grass overlay is a lower resolution than the dirt.  This is a known issue.
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17:26 Fabiter :9
17:26 Fabiter :)
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17:31 OldCoder <VanessaE> looks like a simple resolution mixup -- the grass overlay is a lower resolution than the dirt.  This is a known issue.
17:31 OldCoder Suggested fix?
17:31 OldCoder And I'll ask something specific about your textures shortly
17:32 VanessaE OldCoder: just be sure you get dirt, dirt_with_grass, and whatever dirt with grass *and* snow is, all from the same texture pack
17:32 VanessaE and dirt with snow of course
17:32 OldCoder VanessaE, do you happen to know the name for the latter two?
17:32 VanessaE all four from the same texture pack, whatever that might be
17:33 VanessaE no, sorry I don't
17:33 OldCoder k
17:33 VanessaE if you can't find all four from the same texture pack, scale the lower-resolution ones up to the same as the higher resolution ones using nearest neighbor scaling
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17:35 VanessaE the same problem happens on any server or singleplayer mode if you're using a higher-than-usual-resolution texture pack that doesn't support, say, more ores.  all the ores textures end up as these tiny little icons up in one corner of the larger stone texture or whatever.
17:35 VanessaE so it's nothing you did :-)
17:35 Calinou someone should fix this :p
17:35 VanessaE Calinou: agreed.
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17:37 VanessaE hey jin
17:37 rubenwardy I am just using github with ubuntu terminal, and this happens: https://github.com/rubenwardy/Minetest-Food-Mod
17:38 rubenwardy how do i set it up to use "rubenwardy" instead of "andrew"
17:38 VanessaE no idea
17:38 Fabiter Hello again! :)
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17:39 rubenwardy when i did git push it asked for username and pass, i entered and it pushed as seen above
17:40 rubenwardy solved
17:41 rubenwardy git config --global user.name "Your Name Here"
17:41 VanessaE I use an ssl key for mine, but I don't remember how I got it to do that :-)
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17:43 rubenwardy I would like some people to test the new version of my mod, before I release it: https://github.com/rubenwardy/Minetest-Food-Mod
17:45 markveidemanis vanessae
17:45 PilzAdam some people may be interested in this: https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/tree/carts_2.0
17:46 VanessaE hm?
17:46 markveidemanis is your server up?
17:46 PilzAdam it basically is a working carts mod
17:46 VanessaE markveidemanis: should be
17:47 VanessaE PilzAdam: better than before?  shall I update my copy?
17:47 PilzAdam well, the one before was not working (correctly)
17:47 PilzAdam the new one does
17:50 rubenwardy Food Moved to here: https://github.com/rubenwardy/food
17:50 thexyz > CC BY NC SA 3.0 UNPORTED
17:50 thexyz why did you choose NC?
17:52 Zeg9 PilzAdam, is this carts mod using attachments code, or the teleport one ? or both?
17:52 * Calinou installs food mod on a printer, then sells the printer
17:52 PilzAdam Zeg9, attachment, of course
17:52 VanessaE ok, carts 2.0 branch is in place on my server.
17:52 VanessaE markveidemanis: I saw you log in and them time out....
17:54 VanessaE PilzAdam: no switches?
17:54 Jordach VanessaE markveidemanis's server works
17:54 Zeg9 VanessaE, what's your server?
17:54 Jordach !up 213.123.65.242
17:54 moltenbot Minetest server 213.123.65.242:30000 UP
17:54 VanessaE Zeg9: 24.181.193.82 port 30000
17:54 Zeg9 Thanks
17:55 OldCoder Zeg9, babyface1031, VanessaE others: Worlds will shut down now to fix a problem that just turned up. Excuse interruption please.
17:55 babyface1031 ok thats fine
17:55 VanessaE OldCoder: ok.
17:56 VanessaE PilzAdam: they're very jumpy when you give them a push
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17:56 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/food
17:56 rubenwardy why is readme.MD~ there?
17:58 thexyz rubenwardy: can you answer my question? is there any reason to use CC BY NC SA (instead of CC BY SA, for example)
17:58 VanessaE PilzAdam: LOL!  these don't work any better - sometimes they fly right up into the air after hitting a hill - and then they stay there, floating.
17:58 rubenwardy I have changed it
17:58 markveidemanis all join
17:58 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55039#p55039
17:58 moltenbot PilzAdams link: [Mod] Carts [carts] (Page 8) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
17:58 markveidemanis my server lives!!!!
17:58 markveidemanis 213.123.65.242
17:59 markveidemanis :30000
17:59 VanessaE PilzAdam: what tool should normally be used to remove a cart, since punching them pushes them?
17:59 markveidemanis everyone got onmy server!!
17:59 PilzAdam any tool
17:59 thexyz rubenwardy: you forgot to change the name
17:59 thexyz thanks for changing its license though
18:00 Zeg9 markveidemanis, I have a problem connecting as Zeg9
18:00 Zeg9 it stucks on item defs
18:00 markveidemanis yes khonkhortisan!!
18:00 VanessaE PilzAdam: ok.  now push a cart, get it going fast and try ti right click to get in.  the cart is duplicated and goes off on its own.
18:01 PilzAdam the duplication thing is an engine bug
18:01 khonkhortisan how do you move a cart without getting in it?
18:01 VanessaE khonkhortisan: punch it with your hand.
18:01 VanessaE PilzAdam: how does one move the cart *after* getting in?
18:02 PilzAdam driving downhill
18:02 PilzAdam read this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55039#p55039
18:02 moltenbot PilzAdams link: [Mod] Carts [carts] (Page 8) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
18:02 Zeg9 http://trolololololololololololo.com
18:02 moltenbot Zeg9s link: trolololololololololololo
18:02 Zeg9 Sorry, couldn't resist
18:03 VanessaE PilzAdam: since supposedly we can detect a keypress from Lua now, how about just holding the 'forward' key (usually 'w' of course) while in a cart to accelerate it?
18:03 khonkhortisan oops
18:03 VanessaE (in the direction you're facing that is)
18:04 PilzAdam because thats not what i want
18:04 khonkhortisan markveidemanis, I started under the platform, then teleported there and there was a selection box of a person with the 3d model stuck in the ground somewhere else
18:04 Zeg9 markveidemanis, I can't join your server :(
18:04 VanessaE PilzAdam: then how do you move a cart while in it?
18:04 Jordach it worked earlier
18:05 PilzAdam VanessaE, drive downhill
18:05 markveidemanis zeg9: you are on
18:05 Jordach oh yes, physics, thats what people want
18:06 VanessaE PilzAdam: how?
18:06 Zeg9 markveidemanis, I'm on but it is stuck on item definitions
18:06 VanessaE PilzAdam: I'm at one node from the top of a hill.  I place a cart and get in.  then what?
18:06 Zeg9 markveidemanis, I'll look if I have something in the console
18:06 markveidemanis ok server going down and restarting
18:06 Zeg9 alright
18:06 PilzAdam VanessaE, maybe try to push it over the edge before entering?
18:06 VanessaE (a hill ~10 nodes long)
18:07 VanessaE PilzAdam: terrible control method.   left click-right click almost immediately?  yuck.
18:07 markveidemanis do we want mesecons?
18:07 VanessaE also, it flew off the rails at the end of the hill at a turn
18:07 PilzAdam how is your connection to the server?
18:08 PilzAdam how is the average dtime passed to on_step()?
18:08 VanessaE does going in via 127.0.0.1 answer your question? :-)
18:08 markveidemanis leaving server on
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18:08 markveidemanis i will pick an admin
18:08 khonkhortisan <-- not it!
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18:09 OldCoder VanessaE, are you able to name a texture of yours that should be present but is not present?
18:09 VanessaE OldCoder: when I signed onto your server I did not see any of my textures.  All dokutest or a few defaults.
18:10 markveidemanis khonkhortisan, you have been selected administrator
18:10 rubenwardy Food 0.8 Released! http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2960
18:10 moltenbot rubenwardys link: [Mod] Food Mod [0.8 -!- Lots of new stuff!] [food] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
18:10 PilzAdam VanessaE, you ever seen the Minecarts in MInecraft?
18:10 rubenwardy wierd bot
18:10 rubenwardy what is Minetest-tan?
18:10 PilzAdam a bot
18:11 rubenwardy for what?
18:11 PilzAdam .wik Server
18:11 rubenwardy oh
18:11 VanessaE PilzAdam: nope.
18:11 Jordach VanessaE can i has privs on your serv
18:11 VanessaE Jordach: you haz. ;-)
18:11 VanessaE hahahah
18:12 * Zeg9 can't join 213.123.65.242
18:12 thexyz !wik Server
18:12 Minetest-tan "Setting up a server in such a way so that others may connect to it via the internet takes some time, and a little technical know-how." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Server
18:13 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Server - Minetest Wiki
18:13 thexyz Minetest-tan: thx
18:13 khonkhortisan ^ that link says wiki twice
18:13 thexyz because of weird mediawiki config
18:13 OldCoder 5817 Oct  1 18:14 octuteam_game/mods/default/textures/treeprop.png
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18:13 OldCoder VanessaE, does that look right?
18:13 thexyz http://wapi.minetest.ru/Main_Page, for example, has perfect urls
18:14 markveidemanis my server will be up for a while
18:14 sfan5 http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/ycpaste/index.php?defaults@moo
18:14 VanessaE OldCoder: use textures/all.  I tested it and it works just fine that way
18:14 Zeg9 markveidemanis, can you /clearpassword Zeg9 ?
18:14 markveidemanis admin list: Zeg, Zeg9, Khonkhortisan, have fun
18:14 sfan5 i just found that in the src of knouxious open pastebin
18:14 markveidemanis sure
18:14 Zeg9 When I used a different password, it could connect
18:14 VanessaE OldCoder: <mtfolder>/textures/all/default_tree.png
18:14 VanessaE etc
18:14 OldCoder VanessaE, do you mean the global textures/all ? It does not appear to work under Linux
18:14 VanessaE OldCoder: it does, I tried it a few days ago
18:14 OldCoder Plus this is how I do DokuTest which you can see
18:14 OldCoder Under Linux?
18:15 VanessaE under linux.
18:15 markveidemanis zeg, u r admin, u can do it
18:15 Zeg9 Now that I could connect, I'm now stuck on a blank place
18:15 Zeg9 I can't, I can't join as Zeg or Zeg9;..
18:15 Zeg9 Wait I'll try
18:15 OldCoder VanessaE, tested under Linux with a server as opposed to standalone?
18:15 VanessaE yup.
18:15 OldCoder VanessaE, ty
18:15 khonkhortisan wait long enough and you'll teleport up to the platform
18:15 VanessaE I run my instance as separate server + client
18:15 markveidemanis no, i did that
18:15 VanessaE so I can share the server over the 'net
18:15 Jordach VanessaE your serv now
18:15 Calinou VanessaE: in-client server lets you do that too :p
18:16 Calinou (use the advanced tab)
18:16 * Calinou still wonders why we have three tabs: singleplayer, multiplayer, advanced
18:16 VanessaE Calinou: I know.
18:16 Calinou they all do the same thing
18:16 Calinou why keep 3
18:16 markveidemanis i have to go, leaving server up
18:16 VanessaE Calinou: but then the server instance is tied directly to the client instance.  I can't easily restart one without killing the other :-)
18:16 PilzAdam Calinou, they dont; you cant make a server in multiplayer
18:16 Zeg9 o_o worked as zeg
18:16 Zeg9 ok, bye mark
18:16 Zeg9 If I can call you mark
18:17 markveidemanis password cleared!
18:17 khonkhortisan I call him markv
18:17 Calinou PilzAdam: i know
18:17 VanessaE PilzAdam: oh this 2.0 branch is terrible - far more buggy than the 1.0 branch
18:17 PilzAdam no
18:17 PilzAdam VanessaE, you are wrong
18:17 VanessaE PilzAdam: carts fly off tracks and remain suspended in air, or end up *buried* under grounf
18:17 VanessaE ground*
18:17 Jordach PilzAdam i jumped nearly 39 blocks in the air
18:18 PilzAdam it works perfectly fine for me
18:18 Jordach VanessaE - is player textures installed?
18:18 VanessaE PilzAdam: you can't push them while in the cart, you can't jump in and let them drift down the hill (you have to push first, which makes no sense()
18:18 VanessaE Jordach: yep.
18:18 VanessaE PilzAdam: go on my server then and try them for yourself
18:19 PilzAdam if you remove all the other mods
18:19 VanessaE no.
18:19 * PilzAdam will not wait 16 hours for the cache to load
18:19 VanessaE 16 hours?  try 5 minutes.
18:20 PilzAdam and also all the textures causes weird bugs in my task bar
18:20 PilzAdam your server is unplayable
18:20 Jordach trololololololol - KDE
18:20 Jordach works fine for me
18:21 Calinou kde is slower than unity
18:21 Calinou :>
18:21 Calinou fact
18:21 VanessaE PilzAdam: turn off your texture atlas.
18:21 PilzAdam I have what you would call a "Nasa Computer"
18:21 PilzAdam so i can run KDE ;-)
18:21 PilzAdam VanessaE, this doesnt help
18:22 Jordach NASA COMPUTER, I GET 200FPS IN MC
18:22 VanessaE PilzAdam: if your carts remain this buggy, no one will use them.
18:22 PilzAdam VanessaE, is it realy that hard to push the cart a bit and then jump in?
18:22 VanessaE they are *terrible* now.
18:23 PilzAdam VanessaE, try to lower the dedicated_server_step_interval in minetest.conf
18:23 VanessaE it's currently set for the default of 0.1
18:24 Zeg9 VanessaE, is your server private?
18:24 PilzAdam i use 0.1 too, but maybe your server is too slow
18:24 VanessaE too slow?
18:25 Jordach did you mean 0.00000001
18:25 PilzAdam no, i mean 0.05 or something like this
18:25 VanessaE on an AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (2.6 GHz) with an HD6870 video card?  this is too slow!?
18:25 PilzAdam well, it works fine on my machine
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18:26 VanessaE did *you* try it on a server?
18:26 PilzAdam im driving all the time while talking to you
18:27 VanessaE go ahead and try it on a local server.
18:27 VanessaE I'm playing on my own machine with a separate server instance.  Minimal ABMs, fast processor, local connection via 127.0.0.1
18:28 VanessaE it can't get any faster than this without running the client+server in singleplayer mode.
18:28 PilzAdam hmmmmm
18:28 PilzAdam it doesnt work on a local server
18:28 VanessaE there.  see?
18:28 PilzAdam it works perfectly fine in singelplayer, though
18:28 VanessaE I mean christ in a cartoon, I am not stupid here.
18:29 PilzAdam try it in singleplayer
18:30 OldCoder VanessaE, willing to take a quick look at 30020 and tell me if you see your textures?
18:30 OldCoder Never mind
18:30 rubenwardy minetest keeps on crashing on multiplayer :(
18:30 VanessaE OldCoder: hold plz
18:30 OldCoder Just crashed
18:31 Jordach oh god i made self driving carts
18:31 VanessaE OldCoder: loading...
18:31 Calinou VanessaE: six core cpu? how much was that cpu...
18:31 OldCoder VanessaE, I think it crashed
18:31 VanessaE Calinou: the whole box was about $600.
18:31 Calinou intel's six core cpu is $900 :p
18:31 OldCoder But o.k.
18:31 Calinou O_o
18:31 VanessaE OldCoder: the server has my textures, yes.
18:31 OldCoder Hmm
18:31 OldCoder ty
18:31 VanessaE OldCoder: it looks right to me
18:32 PilzAdam VanessaE, the carts mod was never good for servers
18:32 OldCoder But it is more or less the same as the world you doesn't have them VanessaE ty
18:32 OldCoder Need to check further
18:32 * Jordach made a lag bomb using the carts
18:32 Jordach VanessaE - see your serv right now!
18:33 rubenwardy minetest 0.4.4 crashes loads on multiplayer (redcrab 0.4.3
18:33 rubenwardy )
18:33 Zeg9 minetest 0.4.4 crashes when someone dies on 0.4.3 server
18:34 OldCoder VanessaE, the two games are identical. The one you said had your textures and the one that does not. That is quite puzzling!
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18:35 rubenwardy i like the new minetest design, better than mine or prowseeds
18:35 VanessaE OldCoder: weird.
18:35 rubenwardy same it does not support punbb or my mod forum
18:35 OldCoder I will figure it out
18:35 VanessaE OldCoder: but it was definitely my 64px textures - I started that client in default low-rez mode just to be sure :-)
18:36 rubenwardy (18:35:39) rubenwardy: same it does not support punbb or my mod forum
18:36 rubenwardy shame
18:36 OldCoder k
18:36 OldCoder ty
18:36 thexyz rubenwardy: prowseed's is, of course, better
18:36 rubenwardy no
18:37 thexyz of course it is
18:37 rubenwardy it lacks simplicity and does not look good on 1024 x 768 screens: the video banner dominated
18:37 thexyz and i liked the previous one more
18:37 VanessaE PilzAdam: so, "not good for servers" is probably not a valid excuse -- some rework is needed ;)
18:38 VanessaE PilzAdam: which is too bad, people on my server seem to enjoy playing around with them
18:38 thexyz oh, yes, and it's impossible to access menu from my android phone, there're only 4 first links
18:38 VanessaE PilzAdam: as for my server being unplayable, pester celeron55 to fix his busted networking code so that one doesn't need a supercomputer + OC3 pipe to avoid lag.
18:39 rubenwardy the official design is simpler
18:40 PilzAdam VanessaE, can you test wich MAX_V in line 17 in init.lua works good?
18:40 thexyz simpler != better
18:41 rubenwardy http://www.webdesignfromscratch.com/basics/simplicity/
18:41 Calinou doesn't lag for me
18:42 Calinou even though i'm downloading
18:42 Calinou (the server)
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18:42 thexyz i guess there's no point in arguing, as we won't change each others mind
18:42 VanessaE PilzAdam: well, the speed they move at in the "attachment" branch, turn that up by 20% and you're golden.
18:42 rubenwardy replace != with not necessary
18:45 PilzAdam VanessaE, repull
18:46 VanessaE so I want to? :-)
18:46 PilzAdam Ive lowered MAX_V and store the velocity in the entity
18:46 VanessaE do*
18:46 PilzAdam so the cart is moving slower but can climb higher hills
18:47 VanessaE but will that stop the cart from just remaining suspended in mid air? :-)
18:48 Calinou wow, game got insanely slos
18:48 Calinou slow*
18:48 Calinou bouncing cart/player == insanely slow game
18:48 Calinou if you put two trampolines :p
18:48 PilzAdam VanessaE, it doesnt move away from the rails if its slow enough
18:49 VanessaE PilzAdam: if it leaves the rails and ends up suspended in mid air, that's not a bug in the cart's velocity
18:49 PilzAdam it is; if its too fast it cant check the position of rails
18:50 VanessaE meh
18:52 rubenwardy can anybody think of ways to make Minetest Extensions more user friendly
18:52 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/
18:52 moltenbot rubenwardys link: Home - Minetest Mods
18:54 Calinou they're user friendly enough
18:54 Calinou download, extract, put folder
18:55 Calinou however, some mods are improperly packaged :/
18:55 Calinou too many folders for no reason
18:55 VanessaE Calinou: download, extract, maybe rename, move folder.
18:56 rubenwardy as in the interface
18:56 Calinou user friendly != dumbed down, btw
18:57 rubenwardy how users find the mods
18:57 Calinou minetest.net > forum
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18:57 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/
18:57 moltenbot rubenwardys link: Home - Minetest Mods
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18:57 rubenwardy as in that, is it easy to find the perfect mod there?
18:57 OldCoder VanessaE, may I ask if you see your textures in 30024?
18:58 rubenwardy (Minetest Extensions is the name of http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/)
18:59 OldCoder May I ask if anybody sees VanessaE textures in minetest.org 30024?
18:59 Calinou i'll try to go there
18:59 OldCoder ty
19:00 rubenwardy Calinou, i meant using http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/
19:00 moltenbot rubenwardys link: Home - Minetest Mods
19:02 babyface1031 if you need i can go there OldCoder
19:02 VanessaE OldCoder: one sec,.
19:02 OldCoder babyface1031, yes thank you
19:02 VanessaE OldCoder: trying...
19:03 VanessaE OldCoder: affirmative.
19:03 OldCoder VanessaE, yet you don't see them on 30004. Very odd. I will restart all the worlds now. Try 30004 one more time afterward.
19:03 Calinou downloadin' media
19:04 OldCoder Calinou, thanks
19:04 VanessaE OldCoder: you still need to fix the sides of dirt with grass and snow, but the rest looks right
19:04 OldCoder Calinou, stopping worlds
19:04 OldCoder VanessaE, that will come in time
19:04 VanessaE OldCoder: ok.
19:04 VanessaE OldCoder: what is the name of the mod that provides those nodes?
19:04 OldCoder VanessaE, which nodes?
19:04 OldCoder Dirt and snow?
19:04 VanessaE the snowy biome
19:04 OldCoder Will check in a moment
19:05 PilzAdam VanessaE, have you tried the latest version?
19:05 VanessaE PilzAdam: in a second..
19:05 OldCoder VanessaE, apparently snow
19:06 VanessaE PilzAdam: nope, it still flies up off the rails and ends up suspended in mid-air.
19:07 VanessaE PilzAdam: my server is playable just fine, please sign on and look for yourself
19:07 PilzAdam IP? Port?
19:07 OldCoder Worlds are restarted. Desert Uses downgraded due to a bug. Please check 30004 for VanessaE textures; if not visible this will need to wait.
19:07 VanessaE PilzAdam: 24.181.193.82 port 30000
19:08 babyface1031 ok
19:09 OldCoder babyface1031, do these textures look like VanessaE ?
19:09 babyface1031 i am going to look at what hers look like again
19:10 OldCoder Better ask her
19:11 VanessaE babyface1031: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/minetest-screenshot-vanessa512hd-1.png
19:11 VanessaE that's a screenshot of the high resolution version of what OldCoder put in.
19:11 Jordach also, why does unified inv go black when changing page
19:12 babyface1031 no i dont these are hers
19:13 Calinou Jordach: enable preload item visuals in setting
19:13 Calinou settings*
19:13 Calinou it's enabled by default now, but if it was disabled before it'll stay disabled
19:14 * Jordach relogs
19:14 OldCoder babyface1031, You mean; you don't think they are hers?
19:14 babyface1031 this is picture of a flower they dont look like hers  http://i.imgur.com/aMuA8.png
19:15 OldCoder I think we have a cache problem
19:15 OldCoder VanessaE, take one more look at 30004 when you can
19:15 OldCoder I think the textures are there
19:16 Jordach preload item visuals dont work on my card
19:16 OldCoder We will need to debug over time
19:16 OldCoder
19:23 VanessaE PilzAdam: still think the 2.0 branch is better? ;-)
19:23 PilzAdam yep
19:23 PilzAdam its just not good for servers
19:23 VanessaE *sigh*
19:24 rubenwardy Random selector: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/viewmod.php?id=random
19:24 moltenbot rubenwardys link: View mod - Food - Minetest Mods
19:24 babyface1031 it weird some look like VanessaE texture pack but some dont
19:24 VanessaE babyface1031: tjat
19:24 VanessaE babyface1031: that's because he's using a mixture of mine + docutest
19:24 babyface1031 oh
19:25 Zeg9 Bye all!
19:25 babyface1031 i see the minerals are your but the flowers were not
19:25 rubenwardy (19:24:16) moltenbot: rubenwardys link: View mod - Food - Minetest Mods
19:25 rubenwardy lol, what a coincedence
19:30 VanessaE Jordach, PilzAdam sorry for the lag.  /clearobjects
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19:32 babyface1031 OldCoder is this the bridge mod you added http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3488
19:32 moltenbot babyface1031s link: [Mod] Bridges and handrails; including autobridge (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
19:33 OldCoder Yes
19:33 OldCoder Test it
19:33 babyface1031 i cant get the first recipe to work
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19:33 babyface1031 the ground plate
19:33 OldCoder VanessaE, so your textures *are* present?
19:34 VanessaE OldCoder: yes, for the most part
19:34 OldCoder All right
19:34 OldCoder We can fine tune over time; including the snow issue
19:34 OldCoder Right now I'm simply grateful to have stuff working
19:34 OldCoder babyface1031, the logs have moved. You will find them at http://minetest.org/
19:34 moltenbot OldCoders link: OldCoder Minetest Site
19:35 VanessaE no need to worry about snow for now, I will add support for it to HDX soon
19:35 OldCoder all right
19:35 OldCoder VanessaE, I'll test plantlife further
19:35 babyface1031 ok
19:35 PilzAdam gtg; bye
19:41 Jordach VanessaE - could you restart the serv?
19:42 VanessaE done alreadty.
19:42 VanessaE something made it shoot up to 100% CPU
19:42 VanessaE seems fine now
19:42 Jordach oh ok, i could of forced it by breaking your locked signs
19:42 Jordach (yes, thats a bug)
19:42 VanessaE how'd you break them?
19:42 Jordach by punching them as a non sign owner
19:44 babyface1031 has anyone used the bridge mod and help me figure out what i am doing wrong to make the groundplate
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19:55 cisoun1 dem shaders
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19:55 cisoun1 oh gawd
19:55 VanessaE nice ain't they?
19:55 cisoun1 hell yeah
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20:02 VanessaE they cost some performance for me though, but they're worth it :-)
20:03 rubenwardy yes they are :D
20:03 babyface1031 has anyone used the bridge mod and help me figure out what i am doing wrong to make the groundplate
20:06 VanessaE no clue, never used it
20:09 VanessaE bbl, f00d
20:09 khonkhortisan tried it, didn't learn the crafting recipes, read the post about it should be autoconnecting, and I don't have it now I think
20:12 rubenwardy bye
20:12 NakedFury welcome
20:13 rubenwardy gtg
20:13 NakedFury stay
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20:18 cisoun1 well this is weird : http://cisoun.dyndns.org/minetest.ogv
20:19 babyface1031 anyone know where i can see the code to try to find out why the ground plate wont work in the bridges mod
20:19 NakedFury I agree with that dafuq
20:20 cisoun1 by the way I can't see what I'm typing
20:20 NakedFury I noticed
20:20 NakedFury is it always like that?
20:21 NakedFury I can see what I type
20:21 cisoun1 not sure if minetest's getting weirder or better :fry.jpg:
20:31 babyface1031 OldCoder i dont think the bridge mod will work with out vines but i dont know about looking at the code to see if you can do it with leaves too like the forum page says
20:32 OldCoder babyface1031, I'd better remove it for now then
20:32 babyface1031 ok
20:32 OldCoder Will remove on next restart
20:32 RealBadAngel NakedFury, youre using irrlicht 1.8?
20:32 babyface1031 ok i cant even seem to get the ground plate on giveme
20:33 OldCoder k
20:33 NakedFury im actually using whatever irrlicht thingy sfan is using
20:33 NakedFury babyface you need to do /giveme modname:groundplate namere
20:33 NakedFury name
20:33 NakedFury example:  /giveme default:water_source 1
20:33 OldCoder babyface1031, Is that bridges related?
20:33 babyface1031 i tryed
20:34 RealBadAngel that particular bug is incompatibility between minetest and latest stable of Irrlicht libraries
20:34 babyface1031 the ground plate is the bridge mod you have to be able to make that to do all the other stuff
20:34 OldCoder k
20:34 OldCoder babyface1031, PM
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20:44 babyface1031 when adding a mod to single player what do i do cause i must be doing something wrong i keep getting errors
20:53 OldCoder babyface1031, What type of errors?
20:54 RealBadAngel babyface1031, please pastebin error messages youre getting
20:54 RealBadAngel then we can help
20:54 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hi
20:55 RealBadAngel OldCoder, hi
20:56 babyface1031 ok i will Muadtralk is helping me
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20:56 bulletrulz hi
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20:58 Jordach_ night all
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21:01 bulletrulz night jorach
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21:07 markveidemanis hi
21:07 markveidemanis server is up for 10 mins
21:07 markveidemanis 213.123.65.242:30000
21:07 markveidemanis 1 new mod
21:08 VanessaE back
21:08 markveidemanis go on my server
21:08 markveidemanis it works now
21:09 markveidemanis 213.123.65.242:30000
21:09 VanessaE connecting...
21:09 VanessaE um... I'm falling..
21:09 VanessaE but I'm in.
21:09 VanessaE -224 and counting...
21:10 VanessaE -256
21:10 VanessaE -272
21:10 VanessaE is this intentional? :-)
21:10 marktraceur VanessaE: Oh no, it was a trick! Soon you'll hit the ground floor at -500 and the trap will have completed!
21:10 VanessaE there is no land, only infinite sky plus some clouds.
21:10 marktraceur Oh, that's less interesting then
21:11 VanessaE markveidemanis: -464 now, and still falling.
21:14 VanessaE markveidemanis: -752 and still falling.  No land in sight.
21:15 * VanessaE gives up.
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21:20 MiJyn @Muadtralk, why are all those names in the list?
21:20 MiJyn of your exit msg?
21:20 Muadtralk which names?
21:21 Muadtralk i have not seen my exit msg
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21:22 marktraceur Muadtralk: You should look it up, it's got a bunch of us in there
21:22 Muadtralk how odd
21:23 marktraceur I'm not sure ISON is a username, though
21:23 marktraceur Maybe it's supposed to be a command?
21:23 marktraceur https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_commands#ISON
21:23 moltenbot marktraceurs link: List of Internet Relay Chat commands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
21:24 marktraceur moltenbot: Thank you very fucking much, assface
21:25 markveidemanis vanessae
21:25 marktraceur Anyway, Muadtralk, maybe you have something running that checks if some of us are online
21:25 markveidemanis tra again, sorry i was afk
21:25 markveidemanis i'l leleport u up to land
21:25 markveidemanis VanessaE
21:25 VanessaE trying
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21:27 OldCoder telek, Hi
21:28 markveidemanis vanessae: sorry, cant type your name
21:28 marktraceur markveidemanis: Use tab-completion
21:29 markveidemanis CTCP???
21:29 marktraceur markveidemanis: Look it up, I haven't the energy to explain
21:29 VanessaE marktraceur: I think he means in the game.  tab-complete don't work there :-)
21:30 markveidemanis vanessa
21:30 marktraceur VanessaE: Well, there's that, but he also mistyped your name here
21:30 marktraceur VanessaE: See?
21:30 VanessaE true
21:30 markveidemanis use shorter name
21:30 VanessaE markveidemanis: no.
21:30 marktraceur markveidemanis: Learn to type
21:30 * marktraceur kids
21:30 VanessaE markveidemanis: that's my in-game name.
21:30 markveidemanis i tried
21:31 markveidemanis ok
21:31 markveidemanis ill use platers.txt
21:31 markveidemanis players.txt
21:31 markveidemanis VanessaEzekowitz
21:31 markveidemanis VanessaEzekowitz
21:32 VanessaE now put it into the game :-)
21:32 markveidemanis good ol' clipboard:)
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21:36 telek KikaRz got kicked?
21:36 * telek waves @ celeron55.
21:37 markveidemanis inviting players to my server
21:37 markveidemanis for a party
21:38 markveidemanis should i have maptools on a public server??
21:39 VanessaE markveidemanis: only if you use the git version, which keeps the various nodes from appearing in your creative inventory
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21:42 marktraceur telek: If there's any justice in this world, yes. (re: KikaRz)
21:42 telek marktraceur: Wow, what'd I miss then?
21:43 marktraceur telek: I don't know, I didn't hear anything, just didn't like her
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21:46 markveidemanis going to have a party on my server
21:46 marktraceur markveidemanis: We heard
21:46 markveidemanis wanna come??
21:47 markveidemanis i need a mesecons-person
21:48 markveidemanis anyone??
21:48 markveidemanis VanessaEzekowitzanessaE
21:48 markveidemanis whoops
21:48 markveidemanis VanessaE
21:49 markveidemanis Khonkhortisan
21:49 VanessaE not I
21:49 markveidemanis u coming to party??
21:49 VanessaE no
21:49 markveidemanis why?
21:49 VanessaE too tired to do anything right now
21:49 markveidemanis ok
21:49 markveidemanis celeron55
21:51 markveidemanis Oldcoser
21:51 markveidemanis sorry
21:51 markveidemanis OldCoder
21:54 marktraceur markveidemanis: What do you want?
21:54 markveidemanis for someont to come on my server
21:54 marktraceur markveidemanis: Patience.
21:54 marktraceur markveidemanis: Announce the server, let people come.
21:54 marktraceur markveidemanis: This is not a game of speed.
21:54 markveidemanis 213.123.65.242:30000
21:55 marktraceur markveidemanis: And on the forums, and maybe get thexyz or whomever to add it to the big server list.
21:55 markveidemanis ok
21:55 markveidemanis but its not always on
21:55 marktraceur markveidemanis: Then you should indicate, in any announcements, when you expect it to be on.
21:56 markveidemanis ok
21:56 marktraceur markveidemanis: Alternatively, if you can't commit to keeping a server up, maybe you should just use others' servers.
21:56 OldCoder marktraceur, I have PMd
21:56 OldCoder Oops
21:56 OldCoder I mean
21:56 OldCoder markveidemanis, I have PMd
22:03 VanessaE bbl
22:04 bulletrulz hi
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22:06 marktraceur bulletrulz: Howdy
22:06 marktraceur celeron55: Hey, I'm sure you know c55.me is down, any word on what the issue is?
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22:21 moltenbot zelazny.freenode.nets link: freenode: frequently-asked questions
22:22 marktraceur moltenbot: Thanks for the insight
22:22 iqualfragile ühm… well, lets ignore that :D
22:23 iqualfragile !lol @oldcoder
22:23 moltenbot "If iqualfragile  were a calendar, every month would be named iqualfragiletober, and every day he\'d kick your ass."
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22:24 bulletrulz Give me 20 dollers
22:27 bulletrulz hi Minetest-tan
22:27 Minetest-tan Hi bulletrulz!
22:27 bulletrulz Minetest-tan, bulletrulz
22:27 bulletrulz .tw bulletrulz
22:28 bulletrulz MiJyn,
22:29 iqualfragile !tw bulletrulz
22:29 Minetest-tan @CMPunk wow its funny people acctully think you cheat in real life cm punk your awesome (@bulletrulz)
22:29 marktraceur OldCoder: FYI, iqualfragile and bulletrulz both appear to be testing bots in-channel. I'd like to formally request two temporary bans to let them consider finding a better place for bot development.
22:30 iqualfragile ühm… i was just explaining bulletrulz how to use the bot made by sfan5
22:30 bulletrulz lol
22:30 bulletrulz :D
22:30 bulletrulz yeah stop marktraceur
22:31 marktraceur Yeah, I think my request stands.
22:31 marktraceur With one possible amendment being that these two aren't undergoing bot development, only bot testing.
22:39 iqualfragile well, i for my part used the bot, did not test it
22:40 bulletrulz !tw marktraceur
22:40 Minetest-tan Que tan dicho eso??? (@marktraceur)
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22:42 marktraceur bulletrulz: I don't use twitter, because its developers don't like their users.
22:42 bulletrulz marktraceur, ok cool
22:43 iqualfragile !ping twitter.com
22:43 moltenbot 64 bytes from 199.59.150.39: icmp_req=1 ttl=246 time=160 ms
22:43 bulletrulz !ping minetest.net
22:44 bulletrulz i like the new minetest,net
22:44 marktraceur OldCoder: In case you were wondering, that request definitely still stands, despite the persuasive arguments above.
22:47 bulletrulz marktraceur, this is not court
22:48 marktraceur bulletrulz: It seems like the channel ops might have more of an idea as to what this is or is not, don't you think?
22:49 bulletrulz lol i want a counter claim
22:50 marktraceur bulletrulz: Then you should make one.
22:50 OldCoder Hi
22:50 OldCoder Fair nuff
22:51 OldCoder Do the bots need to be muted?
22:51 OldCoder Consensus?
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22:51 OldCoder Octupus, Hi
22:51 babyface1031 hi Octupus
22:51 Octupus Hello :)
22:51 marktraceur OldCoder: There's no consensus, just my request that you temporarily ban two people who are running afield of the topic of the channel.
22:52 marktraceur OldCoder: I don't care to mute the bots, just give people who abuse them some time to think about the difference between a useful bot command and a useless one.
22:52 OldCoder marktraceur, I don't want to mute or ban people if the bots are causing dissension
22:52 OldCoder Let me scroll up
22:53 OldCoder *scroll*
22:53 marktraceur OldCoder: The bots themselves aren't the problem, but these two individuals were recently testing the bots here, which is totally inappropriate.
22:53 OldCoder I don't see much bot stuff in the last couple of hours...
22:53 OldCoder marktraceur, I agree it's inappropriate
22:53 OldCoder Not going to ban kick or mute if there is a settlement
22:54 OldCoder iqualfragile, bulletrulz any chance of less bot more thought?
22:54 * OldCoder listens to crickets chirping
22:54 marktraceur OldCoder: I'd encourage you to hear their side of things, though I suspect there isn't much else
22:55 OldCoder marktraceur, I don't see any bot activity ATM. If it continues to be an issue I feel the ops will agree on action.
22:55 OldCoder marktraceur, I have asked for their side
22:55 OldCoder Nobody is talking ATM
22:55 marktraceur *nod*
22:55 NakedFury excessive use of bot command usage
22:55 OldCoder Yes
22:55 OldCoder Not advisable ^
22:56 NakedFury as said before maybe using it once is okay but when you keep spamming it all the time almost everyday you are here it gets ridiculous
22:56 OldCoder NakedFury, I agree
22:56 Muadtralk one could always privately message the bot to use it
22:56 OldCoder Yes
22:56 OldCoder If it gets out of hand we could limit to one bot that is only allowed very specific actions
22:56 OldCoder Let's face it, bots are fun toys
22:56 Muadtralk btw
22:56 Octupus im going to gold group OldCoder
22:57 OldCoder Octupus, Oh?
22:57 Muadtralk what exactly does Minetest-tan do?
22:57 Muadtralk !sv is all I can have get it to do for me
22:57 Minetest-tan Muadtralk: dise's server [0.4.3] | dise-minetest.no-ip.org:30000   up (86.371%)
22:57 Muadtralk shut up you thing
22:58 Octupus OldCoder,its a level higher than i am in swimming im gonna soon be in senior and i might be able to qualify for olympics :D
22:58 Muadtralk I can get it to do for me*
22:59 OldCoder Octupus, Good Luck
22:59 Octupus :D
22:59 OldCoder You will qualify I am sure
22:59 marktraceur Muadtralk: I think you can ask it for !help and it will tell you, but I could be wrong.
23:00 Muadtralk !help
23:00 moltenbot Try !up <hostname.org> !ping <hostname.org> [<port>] !date [timezone] !define
23:00 marktraceur Ha.
23:00 Muadtralk wrong bot
23:00 marktraceur Muadtralk: Remember, PM
23:00 Muadtralk yes i will
23:01 Octupus OC i might for freestyle
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23:12 Octupus OldCoder,if u have time can u tell me who made the bridges mod?
23:13 Octupus babyface1031,http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3488
23:13 moltenbot Octupuss link: [Mod] Bridges and handrails; including autobridge (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
23:14 OldCoder Octupus, Sure
23:14 NakedFury see that link transformation bot feature is really nice to have
23:14 OldCoder That page should indicate
23:14 OldCoder NakedFury, I agree
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23:15 NakedFury add a youtube version and we wont have surprise and mistery links anymore
23:15 OldCoder Octupus, Sokomine did the mod
23:15 OldCoder NakedFury, I am opposed to overuse of bots
23:15 OldCoder Except occasionally
23:16 NakedFury yeah
23:16 Octupus Thank You OC but the recipes dont work
23:16 OldCoder Octupus, yes; I am removing bridges for nwo
23:16 OldCoder * now
23:16 OldCoder Baby Face reported this
23:16 bulletrulz lol
23:16 OldCoder It will be removed on next restart
23:16 Octupus Ok thank you OC and babyface for reporting it :D
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23:21 hohoho sdzen?
23:22 RealBadAngel hi sdzen
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23:26 Octupus hi RealBadAngel
23:26 Octupus hi szden
23:28 Octupus OldC,didnt wanna highlight you but i looked over the code and vines by bas080 is a depenyicy ,since we dont knw if its safe ,i think it wud be beter to remove bridges
23:28 iqualfragile1 NakedFury: im glad to hear that my work is aprechiated
23:28 NakedFury igualfragile could it be possible to add an option per user to get a private replay when using a command?
23:30 NakedFury example: !pm me on. then when I use !up or ! ping or !date it will not do so in this channel for everyone to see
23:31 MiJyn hi
23:31 NakedFury hi
23:31 NakedFury hello
23:32 MiJyn what's new in 0.4.4?
23:32 NakedFury well shaders and I think the 3d player plus support for minecraft skins
23:32 NakedFury anything else under the hood I dont know
23:33 MiJyn nice :D
23:34 NakedFury I think the 3d models have few animations now but can support more, dont know yet how to do them. if lua or c++ work
23:34 bulletrulz !tw bulletrulz
23:34 NakedFury there is also a water shader in work or already done, not sure here
23:34 Minetest-tan @CosmOsHere Its A year after the first deadline JOELL!!! (@bulletrulz)
23:34 bulletrulz lo
23:34 MiJyn LOL
23:34 bulletrulz :D
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23:36 iqualfragile1 NakedFury: just write a private message to the bot and it will answer
23:36 iqualfragile1 like
23:36 iqualfragile1 /msg moltenbot !up minetest.org 30000
23:38 NakedFury ok done
23:40 bulletrulz !tw Linux
23:40 Minetest-tan Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" released! #Ubuntu #Linux (@Linux)
23:40 bulletrulz !tw windows
23:41 Minetest-tan Have you tried Snap in @Windows 8 to use two apps at once? See more tips and tricks here: http://bit.ly/Win8101 #Windows8 (@windows)
23:41 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Update Your Browser | Facebook
23:41 bulletrulz !tw minetest_c55
23:41 Minetest-tan Can't wait for #Minetest 0.4 stable to come out :D (@minetest_c55)
23:41 marktraceur OldCoder: ^^
23:43 OldCoder Hi
23:43 bulletrulz Lol im just messing around
23:43 OldCoder bulletrulz, I will mute the bot
23:43 OldCoder Use PM to communicate with it
23:43 bulletrulz NOOO!!!!
23:43 OldCoder That should work even if I mute
23:43 OldCoder Then leave it alone
23:43 OldCoder Or use PM
23:44 * OldCoder checks the IRC pages
23:44 bulletrulz FUCK NO I LOVE Minetest-tan
23:44 OldCoder You can still have it
23:44 OldCoder Doesn't it support PM?
23:44 * bulletrulz laughs
23:44 bulletrulz IDC
23:44 bulletrulz No body is talking so why does it matter if i fuck with it
23:45 OldCoder It's a point
23:45 OldCoder But not a strong one... You've been using it either way, right?
23:45 bulletrulz Yeah
23:45 OldCoder Take it to ##minetesttan
23:45 marktraceur bulletrulz: The topic of this channel is still Minetest. If you're testing a bot, you should do that in #bot-testing or some other channel.
23:45 OldCoder Whose bot is it again?
23:45 bulletrulz marktraceur,
23:46 OldCoder I need to go for a couple of hours. One of the other ops will unmute it if there is no dispute
23:46 bulletrulz OldCoder, no one is talking!
23:46 bulletrulz NOOOO
23:46 OldCoder I agree
23:46 * hohoho lurking about
23:46 OldCoder Look; it's just temporary
23:46 bulletrulz U Killed him!
23:46 OldCoder No
23:46 * hohoho somewhat lurking about
23:46 OldCoder He is fine
23:46 bulletrulz you basterd!!!
23:46 NakedFury if nobody is talking then bring a topic to discuss
23:46 bulletrulz lol
23:46 OldCoder Just taking a rest
23:46 OldCoder Bots are people too :p
23:47 hohoho OldCoder depends on the bot
23:47 OldCoder He will be all right
23:47 OldCoder Hmm
23:47 NakedFury topic: what is the biggest structure or project you have done in minetest? without worledit or with it
23:47 bulletrulz NakedFury, a big giant Penis
23:47 hohoho a cobble tower project on a very old map circa roughly 0.4dev
23:47 bulletrulz LOL!
23:47 bulletrulz i was bored
23:47 hohoho over 500 blocks high
23:47 hohoho lol
23:48 hohoho complete with roof top gardens
23:48 hohoho took forever
23:48 bulletrulz man you should of seen that penis
23:48 NakedFury was it manual labor without flying?
23:48 RealBadAngel NakedFury, technic :P lookin currently for volunteers willing to help me with it :)
23:48 NakedFury or flying and worldedit creative?
23:48 bulletrulz it was the biggiest penis i have ever built
23:48 hohoho I did use flying
23:48 * marktraceur is about 66% done with a 300x50x50 metre building
23:48 hohoho not creative
23:48 bulletrulz but then i blew it up
23:48 hohoho had to mine all the stone to cobble
23:49 bulletrulz but it was feeledd with white wool
23:49 bulletrulz so then i built a mansion
23:49 hohoho im unsure the human limits without fly concerning height of minetest structures
23:49 bulletrulz as big as bill gates house
23:50 NakedFury without flying it would take longer because you have to keep making scafoldings
23:50 bulletrulz BILL GATES HOUSE HAS ITS OWN WIKI PAGE :o
23:50 bulletrulz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates'_house
23:51 marktraceur bulletrulz: You should probably write that in bold, I think the people over in #x11 didn't hear you
23:51 marktraceur :)
23:51 bulletrulz she looks like a junkie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Melinda_Gates_-_World_Economic_Forum_Annual_Meeting_2011.jpg
23:57 * OldCoder will be back later

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