Time Nick Message 00:00 Kacey still binded with torches 00:02 VanessaE try placing a cart, right click, right click again 00:02 VanessaE see if that unstick you 00:02 VanessaE un-sticks* 00:03 marktraceur kaeza: socket( int domain, int type, int protocol ) 00:03 marktraceur kaeza: The type should be SOCK_NONBLOCKING 00:03 marktraceur kaeza: And once again, I recommend `man socket`, it's very useful 00:03 Kacey nope it went on without me 00:04 kaeza marktraceur: got it 00:05 kaeza thanks :) 00:05 VanessaE Kacey: this should fix it for a while. 00:05 Kacey a also cant see players 00:05 VanessaE Kacey: you need the very latest git or you won't be able to 00:06 VanessaE and it must say 0.4.4-dev at the top of the window 00:06 VanessaE (note the -dev) 00:06 kaeza marktraceur: forgot to add -Wall to compile line. I'm now fixing a lot of warnings lol 00:08 Kacey i cannot compile!!!! 00:08 VanessaE Kacey: then it will not work properly, period. 00:08 Kacey can you or someone give me a copy of the dev? 00:08 VanessaE I don't use windows, so no. 00:09 Kacey just like upload a copy somewhere and give me the link 00:09 VanessaE I don't use windows so I don't have such a thing. 00:09 Kacey aaw crap i just realized... 00:09 Kacey crap 00:11 * Kacey REALLY wants to strat swinging a cactus... 00:11 Kacey start* 00:12 Kacey maybe someone could TEACH me how to compile 00:12 scienceandhorror Are there plans for a client-side scripting interface, by any chance? 00:12 kaeza Kacey did you download Irrlich SDK as I said the other day? 00:13 Kacey no i am on a different computer 00:13 kaeza then how do you expect to compile? 00:14 kaeza scienceandhorror: hi. I don't think so 00:14 scienceandhorror I'd love to see one since I;m trying to build a bot to deliver stuff with a higher thought process than in server-side LUA, 00:15 scienceandhorror I can't even figure out the current network protocol. 00:15 scienceandhorror Is there an official specification? 00:17 kaeza scienceandhorror: ask celeron55 about that 00:17 kaeza hello Neko 00:18 Kacey hi neko 00:18 NekoGloop What do you people want from me?! 00:19 scienceandhorror kaeza: Where shall I ask him? Here? In #minetest-dev? On the forums? 00:19 VanessaE evening neko. 00:20 kaeza scienceandhorror: he's god. he's everywhere :) 00:20 scienceandhorror "Network protocol" matches nothing on the forum. 00:20 scienceandhorror Would it be improper to just address an IRC messahe to him? 00:20 scienceandhorror Considering I have no experience here? 00:21 scienceandhorror Honestly, the C++ is too thick to parse for me, but once I get a specification, I can easily do something in PHP or Ruby. 00:22 marktraceur scienceandhorror: Go ahead and ping him, he may or may not answer 00:22 NekoGloop If he doesnt answer he doesnt give a fuck. 00:25 kaeza scienceandhorror: disregard the comment by Neko 00:27 scienceandhorror celeron55: I am quite new here, but I was hoping I could get an overview of the network protocol in order to build a tool in another language to commuicate with servers and do repetitive tasks on the client-side. Honestly, I can;t read through the layers of C++ surrounding the network protocol. If you could somehow deliver it to me, that would much appreciated. If you need it, my email is rarkenin AT gmail.com. 00:28 scienceandhorror Sent. Now it's time to see whether my computer suddenly catches fire. ;-) 00:32 marktraceur scienceandhorror: FWIW if you could help us document bits of the code, that would be amazing 00:32 marktraceur scienceandhorror: The project definitely needs to work on being better for newcomers, especially on the C++ side 00:34 scienceandhorror marktraceur: I'll try to make a PHP-CLI based client-side scripting interface. 00:35 scienceandhorror I am actually rarkenin but have changed my nick since scicence is more impoirtant to me than my name... 00:36 scienceandhorror I just honestly can't read that code, and need a spec in English. 00:42 Kacey sorry about that 00:44 marktraceur scienceandhorror: So....PHP sounds like not a good idea 00:45 marktraceur scienceandhorror: I would much rather you and I hacked together a Lua-type interface instead, and used existing structures where we could 00:45 scienceandhorror I am not good at LUA, remember? I'm just trying to make a bot for a friend's server. Something the server can;t handle too well. 00:47 scienceandhorror So this would be part of Minetest? Or external? 00:47 marktraceur scienceandhorror: If we came up with a client-scripting API, it would be a branch of core, that would hopefully get merged 00:48 marktraceur scienceandhorror: And you can get better at Lua, but it's unreasonable to expect everyone else to learn your favorite language 00:49 scienceandhorror I understand. What I;m saying is that I probably won't be able to help too much. I am not asking anyone to learn PHP. 01:01 marktraceur scienceandhorror: But if you do your work alone, and release it, you're asking us to either learn PHP and use it to script the client, or rewrite what you did for Lua. 01:02 marktraceur scienceandhorror: Neither solution will require you to actually *write* Lua, except as a test. It's just a matter of writing the support in. In that case, better Lua (which is already supported in some ways) than PHP (which is not supported and more difficult to learn) 01:03 scienceandhorror marktraceur: True. Still, I might add LUA support but have PHP as the interface;s engine. LUA interfaces to it, but the actual network wrapper is PHP. 01:04 marktraceur scienceandhorror: Two things: 1. It's Lua, not LUA. 2. Why would you write something in PHP when you could just write it in Lua? I understand you don't know it now, but you can learn it :) 01:05 scienceandhorror I;ll try to learn. Point taken. 01:05 scienceandhorror I have to go. 01:10 kaeza1 hey Muadtralk 01:10 Muadtralk salut 01:12 VanessaE hi Muadtralk 01:14 kaeza oh gosh I need a mug full of coffee right now 01:15 * NekoGloop dumps a mug full of coffee on kaeza 01:15 kaeza someone rewrote the luasocket interface and forgot to update the unix-specific sources to use it 01:16 kaeza Thanks Neko 01:16 kaeza it's hard to teach people to compile on Windows when they don't even download Irrlicht 01:17 NekoGloop Hah, at least i did that much when i attempted to compile. 01:17 * VanessaE hands kaeza a big mug of fresh, hot coffee and offers stevia and cream. 01:17 NekoGloop Er, i shouldnt say attempted. 01:17 NekoGloop I succeeded at compiling, but my fps was low as hell for reasons that escape me. 01:18 kaeza hell. I've had an hour teaching someone how to set up the PATH 01:18 NekoGloop The what? 01:18 kaeza yeah. 01:18 kaeza the PATH 01:18 kaeza gcc: no such command or filename LOL 01:19 NekoGloop cmake must have done that for me, i never had to do that. 01:19 kaeza that's the problem 01:19 kaeza you *MUST* have make on your path if you pretend to use it 01:19 NekoGloop I kinda just went with the settings it gave by default (conforming to the instructions in the readme though) 01:19 kaeza or at least know where it is 01:20 kaeza yeah, CMake can figure out where gcc is 01:20 kaeza but it's your responsibility to call make 01:21 kaeza (if you use that kind of dev env) 01:22 kaeza gosh I recall RBA said computer users don't know what google is 01:23 kaeza that's so very true 01:23 NekoGloop s/computer/windows/ 01:23 NekoGloop And that's a lie. 01:23 kaeza some do 01:23 kaeza at least a ~14 years old does 01:24 kaeza nvm. Just letting off some steam 01:25 kaeza I hate 1337 people, and I've become one of them. I feel sorry for myself :( 01:25 marktraceur kaeza: So now you hate 1338 people? 01:25 kaeza lol 01:25 VanessaE lol 01:26 NekoGloop lert peeps 01:27 marktraceur Hrm, it seems like a good night to try adding that whole client-scripting thing. 01:27 marktraceur My C++ could use some revitalization anyway. 01:27 kaeza marktraceur: IDK, maybe that's inviting cheaters 01:28 marktraceur kaeza: "cheater" is such a dirty word 01:28 VanessaE marktraceur: as long as the server can know that the client has such scripts installed and be instructed to refuse connections from such 01:28 VanessaE think of a user who makes a script that does nothing but repeatedly swing a mithril sword 01:28 marktraceur VanessaE: You know I can't enforce that sort of thing. If you think a player is abusing a script on your server, you can ban them. 01:29 kaeza on the other hand I think that is also possible with a bot 01:29 VanessaE kaeza: true. 01:29 OldCoder 17:23:43: ERROR[ServerThread]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: 01:29 OldCoder Player::deSerialize(): PlayerArgsEnd not found 01:29 OldCoder I'm getting that on 30004 01:29 VanessaE indeed any hacked client could do stuff like that in theory 01:29 OldCoder But I've checked every players file 01:29 marktraceur Exactly! 01:29 OldCoder and they all have PlayerArgsEnd. Any comments? 01:30 marktraceur Ban somebody if they're causing trouble, not simply because they have the capacity to. 01:30 VanessaE fair enough. 01:30 VanessaE you're right. 01:30 marktraceur Else we'd all be playing single player! :) 01:30 kaeza agree 01:30 kaeza d* 01:31 OldCoder They all have PlayerArgsEnd. Any comments? 01:31 kaeza OldCoder: what's the server IP? 01:31 kaeza may I try it? 01:31 OldCoder minetest.org 01:31 OldCoder Which world do you wish? 01:31 marktraceur Really all I want is to enable scripting of very repetitive things. Stuff like "replace the contents of this inventory row with this other inventory row" is something we shouldn't have to do manually if we don't want to. 01:32 marktraceur Or "craft this until no more can be picked up, then put it in inventory slot X" 01:32 kaeza maybe if inventory weren't so laggy on netplay 01:32 VanessaE marktraceur: those sound like good ideas actually 01:32 VanessaE kaeza: wait till RBA finishes unified_inventory 01:32 VanessaE it lags way less. 01:32 NekoGloop Automatic crafting tables when rba does the pipes in technic. 01:33 kaeza NekoGloop: good idea 01:33 OldCoder They all have PlayerArgsEnd. Any comments? 01:33 marktraceur VanessaE: And many more, only requiring the ability to script client actions. But tonight I may just add the main menu mod API....allowing you to change the structure and function of the main menu is something interesting to me. 01:33 kaeza OldCoder: now entering 01:33 OldCoder kaeza, world is down 01:33 OldCoder That is the point 01:33 OldCoder I am getting serialize errors related to PlayerArgsEnd 01:34 OldCoder But the player files look O.K. 01:38 OldCoder Well, it's up again 01:38 OldCoder Let's see if it stays up 01:38 OldCoder Dogzilla131, here? 01:39 Dogzilla131 ok 01:39 OldCoder Dogzilla131, it is up. Reverted to yesterday 01:39 OldCoder See if it looks good 01:39 OldCoder Something was corrupted; I don't know what 01:39 Dogzilla131 ok 01:44 marktraceur VanessaE: Would it be useful to throttle the interactions to a reasonable amount on the server side? For example, 1 inventory move or mouse click per 200ms? 01:44 VanessaE yeah 01:44 marktraceur K. 01:45 marktraceur I guess the special case is picking things up.....I'll do some measurements and determine sane maximums for everything 01:45 VanessaE that sounds about right - an admin pick can dig faster than that, and a mese pick I guess is about half that speed 01:45 VanessaE so that sounds reasonable. 01:46 marktraceur VanessaE: Well, digging will be unthrottled. A script can't hold a mouse down any faster than a human. 01:46 VanessaE well I mean that sounds like a reasonable limit in general 01:46 marktraceur I see 01:46 VanessaE for whatever action 01:46 marktraceur *nod* OK 01:46 marktraceur I wonder if mass-pressing the forward button is faster than holding it down 01:47 leo_rockway I don't like caps :S 01:48 VanessaE ok, gotta run for a bit. 01:48 marktraceur leo_rockway: They'll be indistinguishable for humans, only irritating for bots, and well-behaved bot operators won't notice them because I'll build cap-respecting methods into the API. 01:49 marktraceur leo_rockway: The only reason you would notice would be if you were cocking around with the scripting engine, removed the limits, and came in here saying WRY DOES CHEATBOT NOT WORK 01:49 marktraceur And I would say "Because you're being a jackass" 01:50 leo_rockway marktraceur: that's what I do... o.o 01:50 leo_rockway I set a higher max_walkspeed 01:50 leo_rockway but, to be fair, I only really play local. 01:50 marktraceur leo_rockway: Then you're being unreasonable, and I won't base my design decisions on you 01:51 marktraceur leo_rockway: I'll be sure to include an "ignore_caps" option so you can enable cheating locally. 01:51 leo_rockway marktraceur: well, I don't know how the design will be, but as long as the cap doesn't get get affected by network lag... 01:51 leo_rockway it's happened before that the server thought I was cheating because it was getting the commands all together because of lag 01:52 marktraceur leo_rockway: It would only be on the server....so if the server is getting nothing for 400ms, and then gets two inventory moves, it would accept both. 01:52 leo_rockway oh, okay then. 01:52 marktraceur I'll just keep an average over the past ~2 seconds and it should be an acceptable way of keeping track. 01:52 marktraceur Maybe more than 2 seconds....30? 01:52 leo_rockway I try not to join servers with my hacked speed limit. I set it to default for all the recent tests. 01:52 marktraceur I don't know, I can always experiment 01:53 leo_rockway yup 01:56 leo_rockway there's a server running on tekk.com.ar:30000 01:56 leo_rockway there's nobody there now 01:56 leo_rockway if anybody wants to join and do w/e for testing, it's very latest build of congestion 01:56 OldCoder leo_rockway, are you able to screenshot that world? 01:56 leo_rockway OldCoder: let me join and I'll tell you. 01:57 OldCoder k 02:01 babyface1031 hi OldCoder i see the worlds are back up 02:02 leo_rockway OldCoder: you mean F12 screenshot? 02:02 OldCoder leo_rockway, whatever is convenient 02:02 OldCoder I wish to see if I know this world 02:02 OldCoder babyface1031, Yep. All set for now. 02:02 OldCoder Have fun 02:02 leo_rockway OldCoder: oh, there's nothing in this world. It's a brand new build with a brand new world. 02:03 leo_rockway I just started tekk.com.ar:30000 02:03 leo_rockway I was testing the congestion branch 02:04 OldCoder Oh! 02:04 OldCoder leo_rockway, it's *your* world. Sorry. I saw the congestion remark but misunderstood 02:06 leo_rockway it's okay 02:09 khonkhortisan NVIDIA: API mismatch 02:09 khonkhortisan …rebooting… 02:11 Kacey hello 02:13 OldCoder Kacey, hi 02:13 Kacey i wish that compiling was easier 02:16 Kacey uugh 02:22 kaeza hopefully I'll have minetest-irc ready a bit later 02:30 Kacey now for MinGW... 02:30 Kacey and then kaeza will have to help me again 02:32 Kacey hmmmmm seems nobody is responding... 02:35 marktraceur singleplayer: I think you're doing it wrong 02:36 Kacey lol 02:36 NekoGloop singleplayer: Hey, the name sounds familiar. 02:36 NekoGloop Derp. 02:37 Kacey kaeaza, is that you 02:37 kaeza YAY! 02:37 kaeza It works!!! 02:37 Kacey lol 02:38 kaeza I was connecting from MT chat to IRC YAY! 02:38 Kacey i need that code... 02:38 VanessaE cool! 02:38 VanessaE also, I'm back 02:38 NekoGloop Now port whatever you did to computercraft. 02:38 kaeza almost 02:38 Kacey WB!!!!!!! 02:38 kaeza wb V 02:39 * VanessaE offers Wendy's chicken sandwiches to all 02:39 * NekoGloop passes 02:39 * Kacey eats them all 02:39 * kaeza thanks VanessaE 02:39 Kacey mmmmmmmmmmmmm chicken 02:39 VanessaE if cornernote wants to stuff his face with tofu, so be it. I like my dead animals :-) 02:40 Kacey lol 02:40 kaeza I have to tweak the code. 02:40 VanessaE kaeza: why? are the onions too spicy? 02:40 * VanessaE looks at the code for the onions 02:40 Kacey can make a player be a wolf... 02:40 NekoGloop Lemme guess, you can read the IRC but cant send anything, kaeza? 02:40 VanessaE hm..no.. that one should be local.... no reason for debug info in a production sandwich... no, onions seem okay 02:40 kaeza I can see the IRC chat in the terminal but minetest does not connect 02:41 kaeza VanessaE: lol 02:41 kaeza lol 02:42 kaeza VanessaE: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202012-11-30%2000%3A38%3A27.jpg 02:44 VanessaE that's the minetest debug output? 02:44 VanessaE sweet 02:45 kaeza I still don't know why minetest does not start though 02:45 kaeza s/start/connect/ 02:46 NekoGloop kaeza: Because you borked it 02:46 VanessaE NekoGloop: b0rk3d you mean :-) 02:46 NekoGloop No. 02:46 Muadtralk stop fraking things up you two 02:46 NekoGloop No l33tsp34k 02:46 VanessaE aw :( 02:46 Muadtralk neither of you grok it 02:47 Muadtralk :P 02:48 VanessaE oh foo. Why don't you go bar a baz and see if it quux. 02:48 VanessaE (ow. that hurt) 02:48 kaeza 50rry, 1 |)0|\|'t un|)3r574n|) 7h47 02:49 VanessaE haha 02:49 Kacey |0| 02:49 NekoGloop Funny, i read that correctly as soon as i saw that. 02:49 Muadtralk hey jack! 02:49 Muadtralk whats up jack? 02:49 Muadtralk sorry i ran out of material 02:50 kaeza meh 02:51 kaeza well played, why the (F-word) is this `print' here? 02:52 VanessaE ok, if I dump(sometable), the result is an ordinary string, yes? 02:52 NekoGloop VanessaE: Yes 02:52 kaeza yes 02:52 VanessaE ok, thought so. 02:53 kaeza sorry, testing again 02:53 NekoGloop Make it connect to #minecraft not #minetest ^^ 02:54 VanessaE jaj 02:54 VanessaE hah 02:54 NekoGloop See who yells at you. 02:54 kaeza you laugh in spanish VanessaE 02:54 VanessaE no, just in typo. :-) 02:55 kaeza oh fuck found the error 02:55 VanessaE is it fixable? 02:55 kaeza luaIRC is not polled 02:55 kaeza i's just blocking on `connect' 02:56 kaeza gonna ix that 02:56 kaeza fix* 02:56 kaeza s/polled/asynchronous/ 02:59 kaeza whatever. it's soooo enveloped on layers of abstraction it's hard to find the culprit 02:59 kaeza but wait! GDB to the rescue! 03:01 kaeza errrm... how does one debug a multi-threaded app from gdb? 03:04 kaeza ok 03:05 kaeza done 03:05 kaeza now I need to know how to call `poll' every one second 03:05 kaeza anyone there? 03:08 kaeza VanessaE: what's the best way to call a function at regular intervals? 03:08 Muadtralk global step? 03:08 Muadtralk idk 03:08 Muadtralk :P 03:09 VanessaE probably just that actually 03:09 kaeza Muadtralk: I'll try that 03:09 VanessaE an abm works too of course 03:09 Muadtralk abms can slow down though 03:09 VanessaE (if you set the chance to 1) 03:12 kaeza in what units is the `dtime' param to on globalstep? 1 == 1second? 03:13 kaeza VanessaE: ^^ 03:14 Muadtralk i would think so 03:14 Muadtralk but i havent messed around the api in age 03:14 Muadtralk ages* 03:20 VanessaE kaeza: no clue, I've never used it :-) 03:21 kaeza now testing :) 03:23 kaeza 1 2 3 testing 03:24 kaeza hmmm... 03:25 kaeza say something 03:26 kaeza not in yet :( 03:26 kaeza there 03:28 VanessaE Ok, now.. 03:29 VanessaE is there a way for a mod to tell the system that it supplies functions/recipes/nodes needed by other mods? 03:29 VanessaE short of including a folder of the appropriate name with an empty init.lua in it that is. 03:30 kaeza VanessaE: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1331290652.jpg 03:30 VanessaE yay! 03:30 VanessaE now append a nick to it :-) 03:31 VanessaE prepend that is. 03:31 kaeza and work out how to send :) 03:31 OldCoder R 03:32 kaeza and it seems no lag whatsoever 03:40 bulletrulz hi :D 03:42 kaeza VanessaE, bulletrulz: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1331977664.jpg 03:46 VanessaE cool! 03:46 VanessaE but can you talk to US yet? :-) 03:46 kaeza I have to figure something before that 03:47 kaeza but it's an improvement 03:51 VanessaE indeed it is 03:57 kaeza nope. that didn't work 04:00 VanessaE yay! my combined flowers/junglegrass/poison ivy mod is up! 04:00 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife 04:01 kaeza VanessaE: now testing plantlife :) 04:02 VanessaE wait 04:02 kaeza what? 04:02 VanessaE turn the debug variable to "false" 04:02 VanessaE forgot to change that before pushing, 04:02 kaeza ok 04:02 VanessaE there, fixed. 04:03 VanessaE it is now in place and running on my server. 04:03 VanessaE let's see what THIS breaks! :D 04:03 VanessaE well all the nodes are there anyway 04:08 singleplayer hello VanessaE 04:08 VanessaE YAY! 04:08 singleplayer Yay 04:09 VanessaE this is entirely Lua? 04:09 kaeza a bit of C 04:09 kaeza ummm... seems to hang when there are no messages to process 04:11 kaeza needs a few tweaks 04:11 kaeza care to test it? 04:12 VanessaE in a few mins. tweaking the README of my mod. 04:12 bulletrulz :D 04:12 kaeza bulletrulz: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1331977664.jpg 04:13 bulletrulz oh thats cool! 04:13 bulletrulz :DD 04:13 kaeza still working on it 04:13 bulletrulz kaeza, what server is that? 04:13 VanessaE yay! 04:13 kaeza mine 04:13 bulletrulz oh :D 04:13 kaeza VanessaE: does plantlife work? 04:14 VanessaE well, the node definitions do anyway :D 04:14 VanessaE I'm using it on my server now. 04:14 kaeza may i try it? 04:14 VanessaE just walking around clearing out all the old plants so I can see how they will grow in this world 04:14 VanessaE sure, sign on in. 04:15 VanessaE if you guys wanna help me clear out all the jungle grass, flowers, poison ivy, I'd appreciate it. At your leisure of course. 04:18 kaeza umm... care to share IP yet again? I need to write it down somewhere 04:18 VanessaE hehe 04:18 kaeza sorry :) 04:18 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 port 30000 04:19 kaeza thanks :X 04:20 kaeza i'm in 04:20 bulletrulz kaeza, :D whats going on in the game 04:20 mrtux goodnight 04:21 kaeza VanessaE: you may find this useful: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2777 04:21 VanessaE just me walking around harvesting all the plants around the spawn so I can let the new spawning/growth algorithms have at it. 04:21 Dogzilla131 bye 04:21 * marktraceur thinks it's time to work on C++ 04:22 kaeza marktraceur: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1331977664.jpg 04:23 marktraceur kaeza: Cool! 04:28 VanessaE should I make flowers and poison ivy also die like jungle grass does? 04:29 kaeza maybe 04:29 kaeza maybe you can borrow code from farming 04:30 kaeza I mean, make flowers not die when near water 04:32 kaeza or when on a pot 04:32 VanessaE right 04:32 kaeza that way you can have nice gardens 04:32 kaeza and still let the cycle of life on the others 04:32 VanessaE I could look for the tilled soil from farming, and if present under a flower, don't allow it to die 04:32 VanessaE (or spawn) 04:33 kaeza good idea 04:35 VanessaE in fact they should only be able to grow and die if placed on dirt, grass, sand, or tilled soil. 04:36 VanessaE well spawn on tilled soil and grow, but not die. any other material should be treated as a "don't grow" material, so stuff you plant won't die off 04:36 VanessaE I'll figure it out 04:36 VanessaE the question is should such stuff die off at all? 04:36 kaeza hmmm... 04:37 kaeza using custom groups is out of the question i think 04:37 kaeza you don't want a flower to grow on top of mesecons 04:38 kaeza but you don't want a flower to not orw on dirt either 04:38 kaeza grow* 04:38 VanessaE well they only spawn on grass 04:38 VanessaE the question is what conditions need to be required to allow them to die off 04:39 kaeza hmmm... not near of water? 04:39 kaeza light < some value? 04:39 VanessaE actually I'm using light to decide whether to grow at all :-) 04:40 VanessaE being near water is already used for seaweed 04:40 VanessaE maybe "near" you mean like within 30 nodes or something? 04:40 kaeza that's an overkill i guess 04:40 kaeza more like 5-10 nodes? 04:41 kaeza IDK how good is find_nodes_in_area speaking of performance 05:12 * kaeza is having problems with blocking sockets 05:18 VanessaE you'll figure it out :-) 05:18 singleplayer Hello! 05:18 VanessaE hi :-0 05:18 VanessaE :-) 05:19 kaeza nope... did not work 05:19 VanessaE kaeza: I think you should have the mod check for the existence of a nick and choose another, and also of course singleplayer maybe shouldn't join IRC when you're done making it :-) 05:20 kaeza I'm thinking of separate /join, /sayirc, etc command 05:20 VanessaE /join yes 05:20 VanessaE but /say? no. 05:20 VanessaE chat should "just work" after a join 05:21 VanessaE or better: 05:21 kaeza also, you're right on singleplayer 05:21 VanessaE have it automatically join #minetest-server-address 05:21 VanessaE like #minetest-redcrab.suret.net 05:22 kaeza that's a good one 05:22 VanessaE then all chatter goes back and forth to that channel 05:22 kaeza you mean to join, for example, #minetest-186.191.18.74? 05:22 VanessaE naw, use the domain name if it was given during sign-in 05:22 VanessaE IP address otherwise 05:23 VanessaE er.. 05:23 VanessaE yeah 05:23 kaeza so either #minetest-minetest.org or #minetest- 186.191.18.74 05:23 VanessaE so that we can join (for example) #minetest-redcrab.suret.net-30401 and chat with people who are on redcrab.suret.net port 30401 05:24 VanessaE need to include the port number in the channel name if possible 05:24 kaeza I was thinking about that 05:24 kaeza otherwise all the people on your IP/host will see the chat of other servers on your host 05:25 kaeza interesting 05:25 VanessaE there, I think I cleared out all of the excess vegetation around the spawn on my server. 05:25 VanessaE now we can just leave it running :-) 05:26 VanessaE see what it produces ovder a normal few days 05:26 VanessaE ALSO: 05:26 kaeza great! 05:26 bulletrulz hIII 05:26 kaeza I haven't built latest git yet 05:26 VanessaE the junglegrass/poisonivy growing code now uses the plants themselves as the ABM trigger, instead of the grass they grew on == far less ABM activity for the same effect. 05:26 kaeza hey bulletrulz 05:26 kaeza +1000 for less ABMs 05:27 kaeza activities* 05:27 VanessaE server going down for a tweak to the mod. 05:34 bulletrulz recrating bulletrulz.webs.com 05:37 kaeza bulletrulz: checking... 05:41 bulletrulz kaeza, its not done 05:47 bulletrulz kaeza, 05:48 VanessaE ok, the change is in. 05:48 VanessaE server is back up. 05:48 VanessaE kaeza: now the plants that grow will only do so if they are growing on the same surface that they would naturally spawn on. 05:48 VanessaE it'll keep them from growing on e.g. a homedecor flower pot or cobble or something. 05:49 bulletrulz :D do you wanna help me create a fork of minetest 2.0? 05:50 kaeza sorry. was out 05:50 kaeza VanessaE: great! 05:51 kaeza I'm gonna clone the git repo right now 05:51 kaeza bulletrulz: I figured :) 05:52 kaeza hey neko 05:54 VanessaE go for it kaeza 05:54 VanessaE hey neko 05:55 kaeza VanessaE: has the congestion setting made iit into master? 05:55 VanessaE yes 05:55 kaeza great! 05:56 VanessaE I'm running git master latest from just a few hours ago, not that it was helping much tonight :-/ 05:56 kaeza I'm building right now 05:57 kaeza oh but it seemed really fat for me 05:57 kaeza fast* 05:57 VanessaE celeron55 would beg to differ :D 05:57 kaeza the only problem was that I wasn't able to see the players on my old mt version 05:58 kaeza yeah :) 06:00 bulletrulz VanessaE, can u help me 06:00 VanessaE what's up? 06:00 bulletrulz i need as much help as i can get :D 06:00 bulletrulz i want to make a fork of minetest 2 06:00 bulletrulz like jordach did 06:00 kaeza MINETEST 2??? 06:01 kaeza WOW 06:01 bulletrulz but i dont really know much about coding like i want to make modding avallble 06:01 kaeza and to think we are just on 0.x 06:01 bulletrulz kaeza, no minetest 0.2 06:01 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/stable-0.2 06:01 VanessaE there. Last known commit to the 0.2 branch. 06:01 bulletrulz VanessaE, i just need to know how to create it so you can mod it? 06:02 VanessaE clone the repo, "git checkout stable-0.2", and good luck. 06:02 bulletrulz i aready got the source\ 06:02 kaeza I downloaded a win version of what I think is the 0.1 branch 06:02 kaeza cobble grows on trees 06:02 kaeza :) 06:02 VanessaE bulletrulz: the 0.2 and 0.3 branches do not support mods. 06:03 VanessaE and I couldn't even begin to help make that possible. 06:03 bulletrulz VanessaE, oh so its not possible to import it :? 06:03 VanessaE no. not possible without a metric assload of work 06:03 kaeza bulletrulz: why would you do that? 06:03 VanessaE c55 would say you're nutz, and for once I would agree with him :D 06:04 bulletrulz jordach got the wool mod to work in his ?? 06:04 kaeza VanessaE: more like kilometric IIRC :) 06:04 VanessaE kaeza: nononono, an assload is a quantity, I was merely specifying which variant, like a US vs. british gallon :) 06:05 VanessaE see, a metric assload is about 20% larger than an SAE assload 06:05 VanessaE :) 06:05 kaeza and I was just magnifying. It sure is an assload of work 06:05 kaeza nvm 06:06 VanessaE well then you have to put the magnifier in front of the quantity, not the standard :-) 06:06 VanessaE so it's a metric kilo-assload :-) 06:06 kaeza I'm a bit crazy just looking where the fuck is this irc thing blocking 06:06 VanessaE and I'm just trying to be funny :D 06:06 kaeza :| 06:06 bulletrulz building minetest :D 06:06 bulletrulz 2.0 now im gonna see what i can do when its done 06:07 VanessaE oh don't feel bad. in that plantlife mod I argued with it for two hours before realizing I was inverting the meaning of a particular value-or-nil result of a function :) 06:07 VanessaE ~= ---> == and it worked. 06:07 VanessaE bulletrulz: ZERO POINT TWO POINT ZERO 06:07 bulletrulz it will be on my site bulletrulz.webs.com 06:07 VanessaE bulletrulz: a leading zero on a version number is significant - it is NOT math. 06:07 marktraceur VanessaE: notNotAir == nil :P 06:07 bulletrulz VanessaE, k captionfap 06:07 VanessaE marktraceur: effectively :-) 06:07 bulletrulz i mean caption avous 06:07 bulletrulz lol :D 06:07 VanessaE avous? 06:08 VanessaE *facepalm* 06:08 kaeza lol he said fap 06:08 kaeza :giggle: 06:08 VanessaE pretty difficult for a girl to fap I'd think :D 06:08 bulletrulz http://bulletrulz.webs.com/downloads 06:08 kaeza :O 06:08 bulletrulz is where it will be 06:09 bulletrulz ill make 3 versions 06:09 bulletrulz minetest REVISED classic 06:09 bulletrulz 0.2.0 06:09 bulletrulz and minetest revised Classic 0.3.0 06:10 bulletrulz and Minetest Revised 06:10 kaeza and next: minetest C64 06:10 kaeza that would be a good thing to see 06:10 bulletrulz hmm maybe if i could 06:10 bulletrulz LOL 06:10 bulletrulz REVISED MEANS Adding more mods and taking away useless shit 06:11 kaeza like MOBF? trololol 06:11 VanessaE define "useless" 06:11 kaeza hey rsiska 06:12 kaeza don't worry, minetest C64 will use only about 132 cassettes 06:12 rsiska hi 06:13 kaeza with the full quality of 16 colors 06:13 kaeza and an incredible 1FPH!!! (frame per hour) 06:14 VanessaE kaeza: put it on a µIEC and at least floppies are history :-) 06:14 kaeza lol 06:15 VanessaE (it's a solid state storage device using either SD or CF depending on which one you get) 06:15 kaeza but seriously, at least the Spectrum had 3D games for it 06:15 VanessaE and actually, the c64 could probably pull off 5fps or so at the low settings such a machine can do, but you'll need ram expansion I'm sure. 06:17 kaeza of course 06:17 kaeza that's because people OPTIMIZED their programs for them 06:17 kaeza they didn't have to deal with this protability thing 06:18 kaeza portability* 06:21 kaeza LOL My first program ever written was a 2 line basic program on the Speccy 06:21 bulletrulz i got an idea 06:21 kaeza 10 PRINT "Hello!": 20 GOTO 10 06:21 bulletrulz I make a fork of minetest 0.4.4 06:22 bulletrulz you know what i really think that minetest c64 is a great idea 06:22 bulletrulz :D 06:22 VanessaE I'd actually love to see someone do it in fact. 06:23 bulletrulz linux C64 is cool 06:23 kaeza hmmm... anyone has knowledge of Z80 ASM? 06:24 marktraceur Wow, that's pretty random. 06:25 marktraceur rsiska: Hi! What's up? 06:25 bulletrulz nope 06:26 bulletrulz http://www.commodoreusa.net/cusa_c64.aspx 06:27 kaeza I've even seen a clone of Windows 95 for the gameboy 06:27 kaeza with notepad and all 06:27 marktraceur kaeza: There are things in Windows 95 that aren't notepad? 06:28 kaeza marktraceur: the BSOD :) 06:29 kaeza marktraceur: http://www.funnyscreenshots.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/bluescreen-fail.jpg 06:30 VanessaE yay! 06:30 marktraceur kaeza: I always had the highscore on bluescreen back in the day 06:30 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3898 06:30 VanessaE Plantlife has been released! 06:30 kaeza +(0.1e48) 06:31 * marktraceur is skeptical about the usefulness of putting more mods into one 06:31 bulletrulz THE c64x looks cool 06:31 VanessaE marktraceur: the undesired ones can be disabled. 06:31 marktraceur VanessaE: Wouldn't it be more configurable and useful if you had a mod for each one, and an easy script to download them all? 06:31 VanessaE bulletrulz: it's just a rebadged ZPC. 06:32 bulletrulz VanessaE, it comes with 4gb 06:32 VanessaE marktraceur: this works just as well and integrating them together makes for less code. 06:32 bulletrulz ram 06:32 marktraceur VanessaE: How is it less code? What's reused? 06:32 VanessaE bulletrulz: it isn't a c64. it's a PC in a mock-c64 case. 06:32 VanessaE marktraceur: the spawning functions and growing functions 06:32 VanessaE and the old stuff was crap compared to this :-) 06:32 bulletrulz VanessaE, i know but ts cool 06:33 marktraceur VanessaE: Could you make mods called libspawn and libgrow, and depend on them in flowers / junglegrass / poisonivy ? 06:33 kaeza well, the old junglegrass mod did it's work: It was a code jungle 06:33 VanessaE marktraceur: no. :-) 06:33 bulletrulz it comes with linux mint \ 06:33 bulletrulz I WANT IT 06:33 VanessaE I like it this way. 06:34 * marktraceur just wants people to do one thing and do it well :P 06:34 marktraceur VanessaE: This makes it harder to include in modpacks, as well as depend on without risk of incompatibilities (if person X disables flowers and I require them....) 06:35 kaeza bulletrulz: the original idea of having a C64 in this era is for nostalgia 06:35 bulletrulz LOL 06:35 bulletrulz i liked the c64 06:35 VanessaE marktraceur: how is that any different from deleting or not deleting a separate mod? 06:35 kaeza of course I have a spectrum emulator for linux, but it's not the same :( 06:35 VanessaE just edit one line of init.lua to disable a class of plants. 06:36 kaeza stand by 06:37 marktraceur VanessaE: "edit line 15 of the plantlife mod's init.lua" is not a native solution....depends.txt is 06:38 singleplayer Will this thing block again? 06:39 kaeza nope 06:39 VanessaE marktraceur: I've already seen how users react to dependencies. No matter how mundane, people just refuse to read "you need X, Y, and Z", or if they did they read it as "oh crap this requires a whole bunch of other shit" 06:39 VanessaE this is a better way. 06:39 kaeza VanessaE: agreed 06:39 marktraceur VanessaE: Well, or we could write a package manager. Oh wait! I did! 06:40 VanessaE get it pushed into mainline and I'll rewrite the mod :-) 06:40 kaeza I want to download mod A, which requires B and C. but B requires D, E, and F... ad infinitum 06:41 VanessaE admittedly, sometimes it seems like some equivalent to "apt-get install minetest-technic (or so)" is a good idea. 06:44 bulletrulz there should be a os called Ubuntu Classic 06:45 bulletrulz with the mate desktop envirement 06:45 VanessaE isn't that what Mint is for? 06:45 VanessaE (not mate, but "ubuntu classic") 06:45 bulletrulz no mint kinda is to bloated i mean all ubuntu lol. 06:46 VanessaE or just get Xubuntu (or sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop if you already have ubuntu) and all will be right with the world :-) 06:46 VanessaE XFCE Is Your Friendâ„¢ 06:46 bulletrulz VanessaE, no xfce is not the SAME! 06:46 VanessaE I know that. 06:46 bulletrulz xfce kinda sucks 06:46 kaeza this^ 06:46 bulletrulz i mean i love xfce dont get me wrong 06:46 VanessaE but it's good for those of us who don't want our desktop being turned into a fucking tablet :-) 06:47 bulletrulz i fucking hate gnome 3 06:47 bulletrulz unity is 50/50 06:47 bulletrulz i dont really care 06:47 bulletrulz xfce is cool though! 06:47 bulletrulz i love xfce more then i love lxde 06:48 bulletrulz but ILL give em all up for gnome 2 06:48 bulletrulz or matw 06:48 bulletrulz or mate 06:50 bulletrulz i acctully dispise gnome 3 if a os has gnome 3 i wont even bother to install /EXCEPT Fedora or Arch 06:50 kaeza OpenBox FTW! 06:50 kaeza the ROX-Desktop is really nice 06:50 bulletrulz ROX? 06:50 kaeza and lightweight 06:50 bulletrulz hmm i gotta look that up 06:50 kaeza RiscOS-On-X 06:51 kaeza It is the default filer under PuppyLinux 06:52 kaeza VanessaE: like Windows 8? 06:52 bulletrulz well thats ok but we need something as good as gnome 2 and as fast if xfce had more theming options :D that would be great 06:52 VanessaE kaeza: never used it 06:52 kaeza ROX uses Gtk for themin 06:52 bulletrulz WINDOWS 8 SUCKS 06:53 bulletrulz WINDOWS = GREEDY BULLSHIT ON A PLATE 06:53 kaeza you said you don't want your PC converted into a tablet 06:53 kaeza Windows 8 feels like I'm at one of those information kiosks 06:53 bulletrulz Since windows 8 came out we grew about 1.5% USERS 06:54 bulletrulz we now have about 9.5% users 06:54 bulletrulz mac has about 14% 06:54 bulletrulz windows has the rest 06:54 kaeza bulletrulz: http://humour.200ok.com.au/img/windows-editions-pattern.jpg 06:55 bulletrulz but you know computers are like air conditionors they dont work right if u open windows 06:55 bulletrulz and btw windows 7 was shit also 06:57 bulletrulz windows vista was the worst thing on earth! 06:57 kaeza IDK, I have Win7 ultimate and it's pretty good 06:57 kaeza I use it only for gaming though 06:57 bulletrulz kaeza, lol 06:58 bulletrulz windows as a main os is for people who just dont know anything about computers 06:58 kaeza Windows=Games,Linux=Everything else 06:58 VanessaE kaeza: Steam for Linux will change that :-) 06:58 kaeza though I mostly ditched it now that I have latest wine 06:58 bulletrulz and in about 3 years it be Linux=EVERYTHING 06:59 kaeza VanessaE: true. Also: Desura 06:59 bulletrulz but honestly somebody said this as a remark saying windows was better 06:59 bulletrulz THE SUPPORT IS BETTER 06:59 ruskie what support? 07:00 bulletrulz can i call a number on linux and get help for my linux pc 07:00 bulletrulz nope 07:00 kaeza once developers start doing serious efforts to port games to linux, windows will cease to exist 07:00 bulletrulz well thats nice when i had windows i called the damn support thing cause chrome was downloading extremly slow 07:01 bulletrulz he said at first he cannot help cause samsung bought the os im like no wtf 07:01 kaeza bulletrulz: he said "Bing it!" LOL 07:01 ruskie hehe 07:01 ruskie the way I see it windows has about the same support as linux 07:01 bulletrulz then when i tried to make him help he said well the only was to fix it was to pay 99$ for a screen share with him or i could use ie im like fuck u 07:02 ruskie if not less 07:02 VanessaE there, now the forum post actually has a download link :-) 07:02 kaeza yes, but for windows you actually pay, for linux you don't 07:03 ruskie if anyone ever read the EULA it states clearly that there is no warranty on anything 07:03 kaeza so in scale, you get better support from linux for the price you paid 07:03 VanessaE kaeza: plus you can pay for support contracts from e.g. Red Hat or Canonical if you really want. 07:04 kaeza VanessaE: true 07:04 bulletrulz and i just downloaded linux on ie and switched 07:04 bulletrulz windows is winblows 07:04 bulletrulz it sucks so bad! 07:04 bulletrulz i rather use a mac and i hate MACS 07:05 kaeza but I would use this MAC on Windows http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC-10 :) 07:06 bulletrulz kaeza, +1 07:10 kaeza VanessaE: now entering your realm of flowers and jungle grass :) 07:10 VanessaE ok :-) 07:13 kaeza bulletrulz: minetest :) 07:13 bulletrulz kaeza, r u on the same server? 07:13 kaeza i'm in front of U 07:13 kaeza you're just swinging something at me 07:28 VanessaE ok, off to bed for me. Night all. 07:28 kaeza night V 07:29 bulletrulz night v 07:34 * khonkhortisan was out a while due to a bad upgrade 07:39 khonkhortisan lol @ dizzyone 07:44 celeron55 scienceandhorror: you probably want to look in util/wireshark/minetest.lua 07:44 celeron55 scienceandhorror: it is a "protocol dissector" for wireshark 07:45 celeron55 the high level messages are outdated, but the base protocol is the same as always 07:47 kaeza celeron55: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1331977664.jpg what do you think? 07:47 khonkhortisan kaeza, Can I test that? 07:48 kaeza It's not finished yet 07:48 khonkhortisan okay 07:48 kaeza and it was tested only on Linux 07:48 kaeza it uses native libs 07:48 khonkhortisan yuck 07:50 bulletrulz lol 07:50 kaeza bulletrulz: is compile done? 07:50 bulletrulz yes! 07:51 bulletrulz this is gonna take long :/ 07:51 khonkhortisan every time I see your name I hear (I forgot who) saying, "Look! It's a SmugLeaf!" 07:52 bulletrulz gotta to download the media 07:52 bulletrulz well its downloading fast 07:52 bulletrulz im going to sllep 07:52 kaeza k 07:52 kaeza see ya 07:56 kaeza BUMP: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1176 08:16 Aqua hi 08:21 khonkhortisan sounds good to me 08:48 singleplayer hello 08:48 singleplayer can anyone read me? 08:49 celeron55 very much 08:49 singleplayer celeron55: chatting from MT to IRC 08:49 singleplayer It's me, kaeza 08:50 celeron55 i think it would be much better if the server would make only a single connection to IRC and say the name of who is talking at the beginning of message 08:50 celeron55 +s 08:50 kaeza better 08:52 kaeza here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1350555540.jpg 08:53 kaeza I can't believe I madeit work :) 08:54 celeron55 how does it interface to tcp/ip? 08:54 kaeza It uses luasocket for the low level things 08:55 kaeza I'm not sure about the details though 08:56 celeron55 well, luasocket tells much 08:57 kaeza I'm just beginning at networking, but it's fun to learn from actual projects 08:59 kaeza what do you mean by making a single connection? 09:00 Morrolan One connection in total instead of one per user. 09:00 kaeza I get you 09:01 kaeza hmmm... I have to take a look and improve it 09:01 kaeza but at least it works :) 09:01 Morrolan The issue with one connection per user is, while it looks prettier, that many servers only allow x connections from one IP. 09:01 Morrolan So with too many users it might decline your connection attempts, or even kline you. 09:02 Morrolan But yea, it works, that's nice already. :D 09:03 Morrolan (Not that this would matter in *singleplayer*, since, well, there's only one play online anyway) 09:03 kaeza yeah, but it can get crowded 09:03 kaeza I haven't played in an online server though 09:04 kaeza only on Vanessa's one for testing 09:05 kaeza and maybe connect each MT server to it's own channel? 09:06 kaeza based on IP/hostname 09:06 kaeza and maybe not connect at all if in single player 09:07 kaeza that reminds me, 09:07 kaeza celeron55: is there a reliable way to know if you are running in single player? 09:07 kaeza from within lua that is 09:09 kaeza I though about checking for a single user named "singleplayer" from get_connected_players() 09:10 kaeza but I don't think that's a 100% reliable way 09:12 kaeza well, that's it for today. good night/morning! 09:16 cmacis Alright? 09:41 cmacis Bother. On this box minetest just segfaults. Running Trisquel 5.5. Tried the debs and building from source. Same result 10:01 cmacis Well I suppose I'm getting productivity back for today 10:33 celeron55 kaeza: yes, a very reliable way: minetest.is_singleplayer() 10:33 celeron55 8) 10:34 celeron55 cmacis: probably video drivers; running in gdb (or passing a core dump to gdb) would help in finding out the reason 10:34 cmacis Okay, what buttons do I press for that? 10:37 cmacis I also registered on the forum for this, since both IRC and forum exist 10:38 Calinou up + up + down + down + left + right + left + right + A + B + A + B 10:38 Calinou it'll run minetest with gdb 10:39 Calinou cmacis: no, just go to minetest's folder with the "cd" command then type "gdb minetest"... you'll also have to install gdb if it's not installed 10:41 cmacis okay, $gdb minetest has gone to a (gdb) terminal 10:41 kaeza back again 10:42 kaeza damn insomnia 10:43 celeron55 cmacis: type "run" 10:43 cmacis Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 10:43 cmacis 0x0080b802 in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dri/swrast_dri.so 10:43 celeron55 and then make it crash, and after it has crashed, "bt" will give a backtrace 10:43 Calinou someone's using software renderers 10:43 celeron55 and copy the result to a pastebin 10:44 Calinou why would you want to run mt using software rendering? even $1000 CPUs would render the game at like 2FPS 10:44 celeron55 indeed looks like some system built-in software renderer 10:44 cmacis http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=54278#p54278 10:45 cmacis Mostly because I've just got this box for free and have roughly no idea what's inside it 10:45 celeron55 well; the bug is somewhere else than in minetest in that case 10:45 celeron55 install/use the proper video drivers and you will probably have better luck 10:45 Calinou out of curiosity -- why are you in i686? unless your computer is very old there's no reason to use 32 bit :P 10:46 celeron55 there is also no real reason to use 64bit 10:46 cmacis It's got a designed for win xp sticker on the front. It probably is very old 10:46 celeron55 i haven't installed a single 64bit system yet 10:46 Calinou celeron55: trisquel makes it impossible to install proper video drivers 8) 10:46 celeron55 hmm... actually, i seem to have installed one! 10:47 celeron55 cmacis: that makes it very likely to not support 64 bits 8) 10:48 celeron55 cmacis: well, that isn't my problem 10:48 celeron55 ... 10:48 celeron55 Calinou* 10:48 cmacis Fair enough. I will probably have to get work done at work rather than working out how to build a temple to Stallman's beard 10:49 celeron55 i wonder what people even are responsible for making swrast_dri.so to work 10:50 celeron55 oh by the way; irrlicht does have two built-in software renderers 10:50 celeron55 but they are basically useless for anything other than GUIs 10:50 celeron55 see the example config if you want to try 10:51 Calinou does null count in your two? there's only one "software"... 10:51 Calinou or, is burningsvideo software? 10:51 celeron55 software and burningsvideo are software renderers 10:51 celeron55 the latter is the more useful one 10:51 cmacis I'm guessing I'm on the tail end of people who read the FSF bulletin coming to nosy. 11:17 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:18 kaeza hey Pilz 11:18 kaeza sorry, Adam 11:19 kaeza LOL WUT?  http://bitscloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/collegehumor-honest-desktop.jpg 11:34 jin_xi Hi Adam 11:35 jin_xi Hey PilzAdam, did you see http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=54023#p54023 ? 11:37 PilzAdam jin_xi, so you want that one selection box is for the whole door? 11:38 jin_xi yes, it looks better 11:38 jin_xi unless its a bar door :) 11:38 PilzAdam does it look better if you dig the door? 11:38 PilzAdam because if you dig the bottom part the upper one would have the crack animation 11:39 jin_xi oh, didn't notice that 11:39 jin_xi will check 11:39 PilzAdam IMO its best if every node has its own selection box 11:40 jin_xi you're right, crack is always bottom part with my change 11:44 jin_xi but i still like it better 11:44 PilzAdam I dont 11:45 jin_xi well, you're the boss ;) 11:45 kaeza hmmmm... Care to test guys? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3905 11:46 kaeza Testing is very much appreciated 11:47 PilzAdam this is realy interesting 11:48 kaeza PilzAdam: are you talking to me? 11:48 PilzAdam yep 11:48 kaeza Care if I show it? 11:49 PilzAdam you can do what you want ;-) 11:49 singleplayer Hello PilzAdam! 11:50 PilzAdam lol, singleplayer 11:50 PilzAdam can you use /nick? 11:50 singleplayer not yet 11:50 singleplayer only basic chat is working 11:51 singleplayer but I'm working on it ;) 11:52 PilzAdam are all chat messages send to IRC? 11:52 singleplayer currently yes 11:52 PilzAdam maybe add a command /irc-cmd nick kaeza 11:52 singleplayer though I think no private messages get from IRC to MT 11:52 PilzAdam (to minetest) 11:53 kaeza I was thinking also about a /join command or such thing 11:53 celeron55 you're doing it wrong; see what i said 11:53 celeron55 one minetest server should have one nick 11:53 kaeza I know c55 11:54 kaeza I'm on it 11:54 kaeza just wanted to give this thing one more try 11:55 singleplayer sorry for being a bit dense :) 11:55 singleplayer out 11:56 PilzAdam I just noticed there is no conf setting for enable/disable 3D players 11:58 * PilzAdam has 999 forum posts 11:58 kaeza congrats Adam 11:58 PilzAdam lets do an awesome 1000th post 12:00 PilzAdam hm... maybe an fake "I leave forever" post? 12:01 kaeza that would be good for April 1st 12:01 kaeza nvm 12:01 PilzAdam i already thought about that 12:01 PilzAdam ;-) 12:03 PilzAdam kaeza, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=54291#p54291 12:06 kaeza PilzAdam: sir, it's a great honor for a humble coder like myself to receive your 1000th post. I thank you from the bottom of my heart 12:06 * kaeza is crying 12:07 PilzAdam :D 12:11 kaeza :P 12:15 Ragnar_ oh hey pilzadam! 12:16 PilzAdam hi 12:19 Ragnar_ hey Adam...can you help me scale the player/the world? 12:19 Ragnar_ i want to make the player play in a HUGE world with HUGE blocks :D 12:20 PilzAdam what would be the difference to the current one? 12:21 Ragnar_ umm... 12:21 Ragnar_ well a single dirt block would be larger :D 12:21 Ragnar_ then the player i mean 12:21 Ragnar_ ow and btw... 12:22 Ragnar_ adam, why is that jordan4ibanez just like you? your avatar, your signature etc... 12:22 Ragnar_ are you multy-accounting? 12:22 Ragnar_ :d 12:23 PilzAdam well, i had the avatar first and the signature is different 12:24 PilzAdam and I am not multi-accounting 12:24 PilzAdam but that would be a nice idea.... 12:25 Ragnar_ NO FUCKING WAY YOUR GONNA MULTI-ACC!!! 12:25 Ragnar_ OR IM TELLING! 12:25 Ragnar_ :D 12:25 PilzAdam yes, Mr. Capslock, Sir 12:25 Ragnar_ YES, SIR! 12:26 PilzAdam back to the topic: try to override the default collisionbox of the player 12:28 Ragnar_ ow ok... 12:28 Ragnar_ what will i search for? 12:29 Ragnar_ collision? 12:30 Ragnar_ yeah and i found it :D 12:30 Ragnar_ 0.5 each :D 12:30 Ragnar_ wait... 12:30 Ragnar_ its for nodes... 12:30 Ragnar_ is the player a node? 12:31 Ragnar_ minetest.register_entity("default:falling_node", { 12:32 Ragnar_ initial_properties = { 12:32 Ragnar_ physical = true, 12:32 Ragnar_ collisionbox = {-0.5,-0.5,-0.5, 0.5,0.5,0.5}, 12:32 Ragnar_ visual = "wielditem", 12:32 kaeza In the current version (with 3d models) players can be whatever they want. If they want to be a node, so let them. I personally am Gordon Freeman 12:32 Ragnar_ what?! 12:33 Ragnar_ ow hi kaeza :D 12:33 kaeza :) 12:33 kaeza hello Ragnar_ 12:33 Ragnar_ i thought you were somebody else :D 12:33 Ragnar_ sorry... :D 12:33 kaeza np 12:33 kaeza J/K 12:33 kaeza :) 12:33 Ragnar_ hey kaeza... 12:33 kaeza yes? 12:33 Ragnar_ how good r u @ modding? 12:34 kaeza IDK. you tell me 12:34 kaeza what do you have in mind? 12:34 Ragnar_ im trying to scale the player/the world (blocks) 12:34 Ragnar_ how do i do it? 12:35 Ragnar_ PilzAdam said something about collision boxes... 12:35 PilzAdam Ragnar_, seems that you cant change the collisionbox of the player 12:35 PilzAdam jsut tested 12:35 Ragnar_ ow..... 12:35 kaeza hmmmm.... 12:35 Ragnar_ crap... 12:35 Ragnar_ kaeza, dont mind... 12:35 Ragnar_ but why cant i scale them? 12:35 kaeza I think there is no easy way... if there is ever one 12:36 Ragnar_ but adam1 12:36 Ragnar_ is it possible to make all of the blocks 2x bigger? 12:36 kaeza at least not with a highly hacked minetest version 12:36 kaeza s/with/without/ 12:36 Ragnar_ like lets say a normal block is 1x1...so is it possible to make it 2x2 12:36 Ragnar_ or 4x4... 12:36 PilzAdam Ragnar_, only if you change the c++ code 12:36 PilzAdam and recompile minetest 12:36 Ragnar_ the c++? 12:36 Ragnar_ how? 12:37 kaeza duh 12:37 kaeza oh dear... 12:37 Ragnar_ i thought i could change it by messing around with the default/init.lua... 12:37 Ragnar_ guess not... 12:37 PilzAdam I tried that 12:37 PilzAdam and it didnt work 12:37 PilzAdam so you have to change the core code 12:38 Ragnar_ ow... 12:38 PilzAdam and btw: changing the block size via Lua is impossible 12:38 Ragnar_ well isnt that great news... -_- 12:38 Ragnar_ FFFFUUUUU!!!! 12:38 Ragnar_ wait brb...gonna rage a bit... 12:39 PilzAdam can we have a changlog of your surroundigs if you are done? 12:39 PilzAdam *changelog 12:39 kaeza lol 12:40 Ragnar_ TYPO!!! 12:40 Ragnar_ PILZADAM MADE A TYPO!!! 12:40 kaeza lol wut? 12:40 kaeza oh 12:40 Ragnar_ HE SAID. THAT HE NEVER EVER MAKES TYPOS! 12:40 Ragnar_ thats the 2nd time that has happened xD 12:43 Ragnar_ woah! 12:43 Ragnar_ i just saw... 12:43 Ragnar_ that... 12:43 Ragnar_ InfinityProject changed his avatar! 12:43 Ragnar_ HOW COOL IS THAT!!! 12:43 Ragnar_ omfg! 12:44 Ragnar_ i have an AWESOME idea for a new mod :D 12:44 Ragnar_ that im gonna make with ModF 12:44 Ragnar_ MobF* 12:44 Ragnar_ RPG_MOBS 12:44 * PilzAdam is #8 on forum posts 12:45 Ragnar_ what? 12:45 Ragnar_ LOL 12:45 * Ragnar_ 12:45 * Ragnar_ is #1 on forum posts 12:45 Ragnar_ TAKE THAT! 12:45 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/userlist.php?username=&show_group=-1&sort_by=num_posts&sort_dir=DESC&search=Submit+user+criteria 12:45 Ragnar_ LOOL 12:45 Ragnar_ well, good job! 12:46 Ragnar_ atleast you know how to spam :D 12:46 Ragnar_ how many "mods" do you make a day? 12:46 Ragnar_ 7? 12:46 PilzAdam released mods? or everything? 12:47 Ragnar_ i mean your "mods" 12:47 Ragnar_ :D 12:47 Ragnar_ yes released "mods" 12:47 Ragnar_ cause we all know that its just IMPOSSIBLE to make so many mods so fast xD 12:47 Ragnar_ you make some forks of mods, then you release them... 12:47 Ragnar_ etc... 12:47 Ragnar_ hey what if... 12:47 Ragnar_ minetest would have... 12:48 Ragnar_ NecroMorph's 12:48 Ragnar_ http://www.google.ee/imgres?um=1&hl=et&rlz=1C1TGIB_etEE510EE510&biw=1024&bih=677&tbm=isch&tbnid=Xi_ddu8v5O6JmM:&imgrefurl=http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D307707&docid=G8boo37PDDSAnM&imgurl=http://www.ozgameshop.com/product_images/gifts_and_gadgets/collectables/video_games/dead_space_2_necromorph_slasher_7_figure_xl.jpg&w=276&h=276&ei=qqq4UJPWHYuThgf0voCwBg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=173&sig=102184457274606161509&page=1&tbnh= 12:48 Ragnar_ LOL 12:49 Ragnar_ im gonna play Left 4K Dead 12:49 Ragnar_ :d 12:49 PilzAdam Ragnar_, 0.3 12:49 PilzAdam accoring to the registration date of the forum 12:49 Ragnar_ what? 12:49 PilzAdam 22/71 12:49 Ragnar_ what?? 12:49 PilzAdam mods /day 12:50 Ragnar_ oh and btw... i'm playing l4kd and i shot randomly and killed a PilzAdam :D 12:50 PilzAdam l4kd? 12:51 Ragnar_ Left 4K Dead 12:51 PilzAdam never played 12:51 * john_minetest is on page 7 of the ranking :D 12:51 Ragnar_ ow :d 12:51 Ragnar_ ok :D 12:51 Ragnar_ hoogle it :D 12:51 Ragnar_ google* 12:51 Ragnar_ but...hoogle'ing sounds better :D 12:51 PilzAdam there is a PilzAdam on XBox Live; thats me :-) 12:52 Ragnar_ im making a game engine called "The Hoogle" 12:52 Ragnar_ :D 12:52 Ragnar_ some day... 12:52 Ragnar_ soon... 12:52 PilzAdam thats me: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/user/PilzAdam/ 12:52 * kaeza is at page 3 on ranking. AWWWW YEEEAH! 12:53 Ragnar_ ow so you play BattleField 3 ? 12:53 Ragnar_ well... 12:53 PilzAdam sure 12:53 Ragnar_ Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 owns BattleField 3 ! 12:53 PilzAdam M249 SAW only FTW! 12:53 Ragnar_ lol :D 12:54 Ragnar_ hey how can one even play with a remote and be a pro? 12:54 PilzAdam MW3: There is a f***ing camper in this building; BF3: BOOOOM!!! What building? 12:54 kaeza Doom FTW! LOL u mad? 12:54 Ragnar_ i tried it in Call of Duty 1... 12:54 Ragnar_ yes, call of duty 1... 12:54 Ragnar_ cause my graphics card is fucked up.... 12:57 kaeza sorry, just inserting random one-liners on IRC 12:57 kaeza LOL you get it? one liners? IRC? I'm such a genius 12:57 Ragnar_ what? 12:57 Ragnar_ *Insert Laughter Here* 12:58 kaeza \o/ 12:58 Ragnar_ or *Laughter_Not_Found* 12:58 Ragnar_ Just The Tip... 12:58 Ragnar_ hey kaeza! 12:58 Ragnar_ you wanna play the Raping Game+ 12:59 kaeza ... 12:59 kaeza hey iqualfragile 12:59 Ragnar_ you wanna play the Raping Game or not then? 12:59 Ragnar_ yes or no 12:59 kaeza ... 13:00 Ragnar_ I SAID YES OR NO 13:00 kaeza ... 13:01 iqualfragile good morning kaeza 13:01 kaeza let's see where this ends up... YES! 13:01 Ragnar_ WRONG 13:01 Ragnar_ you need to say no! 13:01 kaeza trolled u 13:01 kaeza lolol 13:01 Ragnar_ you wanna play the Raping Game or not then? 13:01 kaeza morning iqualfragile 13:02 iqualfragile Ragnar_: stopp it 13:02 kaeza NO then 13:02 * kaeza sighs 13:02 Ragnar_ See, thats the spirit! 13:02 kaeza O_o 13:03 Ragnar_ a perv comes to you and asks this...you say NO, he sais "See, thats the spirit!" 13:03 kaeza I don't get it 13:03 Ragnar_ -.- 13:03 Ragnar_ he pretends if you say yes... 13:04 iqualfragile if you get raped 13:04 iqualfragile you dont want that to happen 13:04 kaeza 404: Laugher Not Found 13:04 Ragnar_ FUCK YOU 13:04 iqualfragile 403 rape-jokes forbidden 13:04 iqualfragile 418 im a teacup 13:04 kaeza iqualfragile: trololol 13:04 kaeza iqualfragile: 200 OK 13:05 Ragnar_ ITS OVER 9000! 13:05 PilzAdam Hello iqualfragile 13:07 NekoGloop Meow. 13:07 * Ragnar_ has just bought Freenode.net 13:07 kaeza Meow Neko :3 13:08 iqualfragile Guten Tag Adam 13:08 Ragnar_ Hey mr.Creeper, how ya doing? 13:09 Ragnar_ hey kaeza 13:09 Ragnar_ do you like mobs? 13:09 kaeza ... 13:09 Ragnar_ in minetest 13:10 Ragnar_ would you want a NecroMorph in minetesT? 13:10 kaeza sure I LOOOOOOVE MOBF 13:10 kaeza ;) 13:10 Ragnar_ would you want a NecroMorph then? 13:10 Ragnar_ google NecroMorph 13:10 Ragnar_ and look how CrEePy it is ;D 13:10 kaeza WTF is a necromorph? 13:10 Ragnar_ hoogle it! 13:11 Ragnar_ yes, hoogle! 13:11 Ragnar_ The Hoogle Engine 6.0 13:11 Ragnar_ xD 13:11 kaeza have you tried having a Lemon Party? 13:11 Ragnar_ no! 13:11 Ragnar_ ive googled it! 13:12 Ragnar_ xD 13:12 Ragnar_ THAT... 13:12 Ragnar_ IS... 13:12 Ragnar_ CREEPY 13:12 NekoGloop I assume it's a creepypasta? 13:12 Ragnar_ creepypasta? 13:12 kaeza Slenderman FTW! 13:12 NekoGloop Ah, you just have no idea what 'creepy' is yet. 13:12 Ragnar_ slenderman? 13:13 Ragnar_ a NecroMorph is NOT slendermister... 13:13 kaeza I'm not googlin it either 13:14 Ragnar_ cmon! 13:14 Ragnar_ ok, ill say it... 13:14 Ragnar_ its a zombie... 13:14 Ragnar_ a really creepy zombie... 13:14 Ragnar_ with bone-needles in its hands 13:14 NekoGloop And you have no idea what creepy is *cough*jeff-the-killer*cough* 13:14 Ragnar_ or fangs... 13:14 kaeza Have you ever seen the face of a regenerator in RE4? 13:15 kaeza THAT is FUCKING CREEPY 13:15 Ragnar_ i know right :d 13:15 Ragnar_ i told you! 13:16 Ragnar_ so kaeza... 13:16 Ragnar_ what do you think about that in Minetest? 13:16 kaeza mobs? 13:16 kaeza yeah 13:16 Ragnar_ what if a NecroMorph was in minetest... 13:16 kaeza It feels a bit lonely sometimes 13:16 Ragnar_ would you like it? 13:16 Ragnar_ xD 13:16 * kaeza needs a hug 13:16 Ragnar_ LOL 13:16 * NekoGloop pats kaeza's head 13:16 Ragnar_ you : " Come here, mister! gimme a hug! " 13:17 Ragnar_ NM : " hghghggghghhghg *STAB* " 13:17 * kaeza is happy again 13:17 kaeza hello berome 13:18 berome salut hello 13:19 berome haaa, Oldcoder, server Zeg9 is down for me now; is it normal ? 13:19 berome berome = klunk 13:19 Ragnar_ hey kaeza 13:19 Ragnar_ im gonna map you to next year 13:19 kaeza what? 13:20 ImNotABot Hello 13:20 * Ragnar_ hiting kaeza with a map 13:20 Ragnar_ Im gonna map you to next year 13:20 * kaeza sighs 13:21 kaeza Hello ImNotABot 13:21 * NekoGloop hits Ragnar_ with a compass. 13:21 YTR-123 This is my motivation http://www.aimini.net/view/?fid=cxEDx6ARWbN0KIctHuwU 13:21 kaeza cool name BTW 13:21 ImNotABot thx ;) 13:21 YTR-123 Hi ImNotABot 13:21 ImNotABot Hi YTR-123 13:22 * Ragnar_ gives Ragnar_ some default:air 13:22 NekoGloop Cannot give an unknown item. 13:22 kaeza You hacker you 13:22 * Ragnar_ gives Ragnar some Default:Cloud 13:23 NekoGloop Ragnar_: It's just "air" or "__builtin:air" 13:23 kaeza Does Cloud come with the Buster Sword? 13:23 Ragnar_ no? 13:23 NekoGloop XD 13:23 Ragnar_ cloud = unwalkable & unbreakable block 13:23 NekoGloop FF7 FTW. 13:23 Ragnar_ if you place it... 13:24 kaeza NekoGloop: you got it :) 13:24 berome heu ok, what is command to fix pseudo please 13:24 * YTR-123 lolz 13:24 kaeza the best RPG EVAR 13:24 NekoGloop Not the best final fantasy though. 13:25 NekoGloop Tactics A2 > all 13:25 kaeza hmmm... Haven't played it yet 13:25 * Ragnar_ gives NekoGloop some Punch 13:25 kaeza I finished 1-7 and 9-10 13:25 kaeza I'm playing 8 right now 13:25 NekoGloop 8 is a dick to beat :/ 13:26 kaeza I also almost finished XII but sadly my PS2 died :( 13:26 Ragnar_ hey who wants to join me in a minetest Lets Play 13:26 * YTR-123 gives Ragnar_ some Punch as he gave NekoGloop 13:27 * Ragnar_ kicks YTR-123 13:27 kaeza NekoGloop: yes, 8 is a tough one 13:27 NekoGloop I beat XII in less time than my dad did, and at half the level too! 13:27 OldCoder Hi 13:27 OldCoder berome, checking 13:27 kaeza Vaan was at L98 or so 13:27 * YTR-123 says hi to OldCoder 13:27 OldCoder Hi 13:28 kaeza hi OldCoder 13:28 NekoGloop Pfft, you can beat it at L30 with the right weapons and magic. 13:28 YTR-123 I'll play some minetest! 13:28 kaeza Yes, but it was my first playthrough 13:28 kaeza :( 13:28 Ragnar_ im learning tricks :D 13:28 Ragnar_ like lava generator etc... :D 13:28 * YTR-123 kicks Ragnar_ back 13:28 berome hi oldcoder, thanks ! 13:29 ImNotABot hi OldCoder 13:29 Ragnar_ GOT IT 13:29 Ragnar_ i know how to make a lava generator :D 13:29 YTR-123 I am still in my bed 12 hours of in a bed that's what I call relaxing!! 13:29 kaeza also beat Sapphire Weapon in under 10 mins 13:30 OldCoder Zegaton has some minor corruption. I will fix it now. berome 13:30 kaeza (in FF7) 13:30 OldCoder 13:29:41: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Player::deSerialize(): PlayerArgsEnd not found 13:30 OldCoder I've encountered this before. Comments would be welcome. 13:31 NekoGloop kaeza: How, there is no sapphire weapon :P 13:31 kaeza OldCoder: wasn't someone talking about that earlier? 13:31 NekoGloop Emerald and ruby, yes. 13:31 OldCoder I did yesterday 13:31 kaeza yes, there is 13:31 berome thanks a lot ! 13:31 NekoGloop kaeza: I think you mean emerald. 13:31 NekoGloop The underwater one is the Emerald WEAPON. 13:31 kaeza yeah sorry, got precious gems mixed up 13:32 NekoGloop I usually get the underwater materia just in case. 13:32 NekoGloop Final attack + Revive FTW :P 13:32 kaeza AWW YEAH 13:32 berome !identifier 13:33 NekoGloop I forget if mega-all works with revive and final attack... 13:33 kaeza also KotR helps a lot 13:33 kaeza :) 13:33 OldCoder berome, Try Zegaton world now please 13:33 berome nick identifier 13:33 kaeza Omnislash+KotR and he's done for 13:33 berome yes 13:34 NekoGloop KotR? 13:34 kaeza hmmm... I think it doesn't work 13:34 NekoGloop One of cloud's swords? 13:34 kaeza nope. a summon 13:34 kaeza Knights of the Round 13:34 berome ooohaaalll right connexion is working ! 13:34 NekoGloop Oh, knights of the round table. 13:34 NekoGloop Right. 13:35 kaeza yeah, but getting a golden chocobo is a crapload of work 13:35 berome (old computer woek) 13:35 NekoGloop Pfft. I get chocobo's easily. 13:35 NekoGloop Maybe because i find the races so damn fun. 13:36 kaeza lol yeah 13:36 kaeza world ends in three days and you spend like a year at the races 13:36 berome ok I m able to connect, there is a graphical bug wich occurs often, I think it is my side ; by the way thanks a lot Oldcoder ! 13:37 NekoGloop Seems legit. 13:38 NekoGloop I literally only have to go to the crater. That's all that's left in the game, and i'm playing with cross-breeds of ostriches and chickens. 13:39 kaeza lol 13:40 kaeza that's true for each and every player out there 13:41 kaeza It's a shame no one ported Triple Triad/Tetra Master to Windows/Linux yet 13:41 NekoGloop Ew tetra master. 13:41 NekoGloop Kill it with fire. 13:41 kaeza y? 13:42 kaeza It's a cool game 13:42 kaeza well... if it were well implemented 13:42 NekoGloop Well idk, maybe if you get every card you're only rewarded with a glitch message? 13:42 kaeza I mean, I lost a fucking dragon against a G*D FUCKING IMP 13:43 NekoGloop Ikr. 13:43 NekoGloop At least triple triad is better implemented. 13:44 Ragnar_ im learning how to make a wood generator :D 13:44 ImNotABot hello, is anyone there? 13:45 Ragnar_ i am! 13:45 ImNotABot cool 13:45 NekoGloop I aint. 13:46 ImNotABot minetest? god I thought this was minecraft 13:46 NekoGloop ... 13:47 ImNotABot lol 13:49 ImNotABot I found an interesting mod 13:49 ImNotABot http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3905 13:49 NekoGloop We should make it so the source is easier to compile, like a web service or something. 13:50 kaeza ImNotABot: interesting idea 13:50 kaeza sorry 13:50 kaeza NekoGloop: 13:50 NekoGloop Its... Actually in lua? 13:50 kaeza ^ 13:51 NekoGloop I thought it was in the source O.O 13:51 kaeza a bit of Lua 13:51 kaeza and a bit of C 13:51 kaeza nvm 13:51 kaeza goodbye ImNotABot 13:51 ImNotABot g'bye! 13:53 kaeza ah well... brb 13:57 NakedFury THQ humble bundle edition worth it? 14:05 klunk ok, thanks Oldcoder, Zegaton is up again ! 14:10 OldCoder klunk, u r welcome. It was the PlayerArgsEnd corruption issue 14:11 kaeza hello again 14:12 klunk ???? :-/ ...ok ! 14:38 iqualfragile can one write collored texts on irc? 14:38 SpeedProg no 14:39 cmacis You may have local scripts that apply certain colours on certain inputs, but only you will see it 14:41 kaeza iqualfragile: that's why most of us hate MSN messenger 14:41 iqualfragile oldcoder: would you be allright with me adding abot here? its usefull, realy 14:42 iqualfragile hmm… im just gona add it, you can then choose if you want to keep or kick it 14:42 Morrolan You better hope there's no oldschool IRC users here. 14:43 Morrolan Else the bot won't be the only one who gets kicked. :P 14:44 OldCoder iqualfragile, Sure 14:44 OldCoder Within reason 14:44 kaeza iqualfragile: better use your own channel 14:44 OldCoder kaeza, Shall we try it? iqualfragile how polite is the bot? 14:44 cmacis Not like there's rent on a channel 14:45 OldCoder Heh 14:45 OldCoder cmacis, it is a question of consensus 14:45 kaeza ok 14:45 iqualfragile its polite, its not for chatting 14:45 kaeza let's try it 14:45 OldCoder What does it do? 14:45 iqualfragile its for some simple tasks 14:45 OldCoder Such as? 14:45 iqualfragile checking if minetest-servers are up 14:45 OldCoder We'll see if people object 14:45 OldCoder Yes 14:45 OldCoder iqualfragile, If people don't like it the bot will need to go 14:46 kaeza that would be useful actuall 14:46 OldCoder Go ahead and try it 14:46 kaeza y 14:46 iqualfragile one moment 14:47 kaeza ok hello moltenbot :P 14:47 moltenbot Hi, kaeza 14:47 kaeza -.- 14:47 iqualfragile !up minetest.org 14:47 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.org UP 14:48 iqualfragile !up mientiarnetui.org 14:48 moltenbot Minetest server mientiarnetui.org DOWN 14:48 iqualfragile !ping minetest.org 14:48 moltenbot host minetest.org DOWN 14:48 kaeza umm... 14:48 iqualfragile uuuhm 14:48 iqualfragile wait 14:48 iqualfragile :D 14:48 kaeza seems legit 14:49 iqualfragile !die 14:49 kaeza (no sarcasm here) 14:49 PilzAdam iqualfragile, whats about port? 14:49 iqualfragile it actualy sends the sequence the client uses to log in 14:50 iqualfragile and then checks if it gets an apropriate response from the server 14:50 PilzAdam but to wich port? 14:50 iqualfragile 30000 14:50 PilzAdam that should be configureable 14:50 iqualfragile hmm… not realy otherwise people will use it to portscan or sth 14:51 kaeza !die 14:51 kaeza lol 14:51 kaeza works :) 14:51 kaeza sorry 14:52 kaeza make it require some privs for die 14:52 iqualfragile nah, its just for testing right now 14:52 iqualfragile so anybody can kill it 14:53 Morrolan There's *no* reason to use an IRC bot to "portscan or sth". 14:53 PilzAdam !up minetest.ru 14:53 iqualfragile proxying 14:53 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.ru UP 14:53 kaeza O_o 14:53 Morrolan Unless that bot is doing something really funny, you won't be able to use it as a proxy either. ;) 14:53 PilzAdam !up PilzAdam 14:53 moltenbot Minetest server PilzAdam UP 14:53 PilzAdam wtf?!?!? 14:53 Morrolan The only issue those bots tend to have is, that people tend to abuse them a bit. ^.^ 14:54 kaeza yay! You're up Adam! 14:54 iqualfragile well, thats kind of interesting :: 14:54 iqualfragile i have just hacked it together 14:54 PilzAdam !up iqualfragile 14:54 OldCoder Morrolan, true. Hence we will watch for consensus 14:54 moltenbot Minetest server iqualfragile DOWN 14:54 iqualfragile in BASH 14:54 kaeza http://PilzAdam/index.html 14:54 iqualfragile the fuck? 14:54 iqualfragile !up PilzAdam 14:54 moltenbot Minetest server PilzAdam DOWN 14:54 PilzAdam !up kaeza 14:54 moltenbot Minetest server kaeza DOWN 14:55 PilzAdam !up ChanServ 14:55 moltenbot Minetest server ChanServ DOWN 14:55 * kaeza says 403: forbidden 14:55 PilzAdam !up moltenbot 14:55 OldCoder iqualfragile, perhaps you could debug him or her in a private channel 14:55 iqualfragile moltenbot is a bot! 14:55 OldCoder And? 14:55 Morrolan PilzAdam: Are you hosting a server on the machine you use to connect to IRC? 14:55 OldCoder I have MadMoo. She is a fine cowbot. 14:55 PilzAdam no 14:56 Morrolan PilzAdam: Ah, else I'd have assumed that the bot queries a user's IP when supplied with a nickname. 14:56 Morrolan In this case though, well, probably a bug. 14:56 kaeza hmmm... someone said "!up moltenbot" and moltenbot did not respond... 14:56 iqualfragile and a rare one, too 14:56 iqualfragile i know, i have killed it 14:56 iqualfragile it times out now 14:56 PilzAdam !die 14:57 kaeza um... 14:57 Morrolan Seems a bit rough around the edges, that bot. :P 14:58 iqualfragile its written in bash 14:58 kaeza ummm... may I have a peek at it? 14:58 * Morrolan blinks 14:58 Morrolan In bash. 14:58 iqualfragile nah, killed in the ctrl+c sense 14:58 iqualfragile jup, bash, sed, cut, head 14:59 Morrolan And network communication? 14:59 iqualfragile bash 14:59 kaeza ... 14:59 Morrolan I do have some doubts. 14:59 iqualfragile i have used a litle bit of netcat for the minetest-check-part 14:59 kaeza so do i 14:59 iqualfragile but im gona replace that soon 14:59 Morrolan And for the whole IRC part? 14:59 iqualfragile bash 15:00 Morrolan Yea, but what tools? Last I checked, bash didn't have built-in network capabilities. :) 15:00 iqualfragile it has 15:01 Morrolan If you say so. :) 15:01 iqualfragile since like forever 15:01 kaeza ...how? 15:01 Morrolan Bash, kaeza. :D 15:02 kaeza yes I know a bit of bash, but networking? 15:02 Morrolan No clue. ;) 15:02 kaeza don't get me wrong, it would be cool 15:02 Morrolan Eh, Bash is a shell, no need for a shell to have network capabilities. 15:02 Morrolan There's plenty of tools for that. 15:04 kaeza can you post a link to one? I'm getting interested in this mater 15:04 kaeza matter* 15:05 Morrolan Uh, tools for network communications? Depends on what you're trying to achieve. If you want to send an e-mail or use IRC, a telnet client would work. (Though it'd be somewhat inconvenient, compared to an E-Mail / IRC client.) 15:05 iqualfragile no need for that 15:05 iqualfragile you can use native bash 15:08 Morrolan So it seems, didn't know about that. 15:09 kaeza he says nc 15:13 Morrolan Seems Bash offers fake device files at /dev/tcp and /dev/udp, which allow you to open (read & write) a basic socket connection. 15:14 Morrolan Didn't know about those, but sure is a nice little trick. (Though somewhat inconvenient, I imagine) 15:14 Morrolan Sorry for doubting you, iqualfragile. :P 15:20 iqualfragile no problem 15:21 iqualfragile it seems like minetest.org would not respond to ping-messages 15:22 iqualfragile oldcoder ↑ 15:22 iqualfragile !ping google.de 15:22 moltenbot 64 bytes from 173.194.66.94: icmp_req=1 ttl=47 time=16.3 ms 15:23 iqualfragile !ping minetest.org 15:23 moltenbot host minetest.org DOWN 15:23 iqualfragile !date 15:23 moltenbot Fr 30. Nov 16:23:19 CET 2012 15:23 OldCoder iqualfragile, Hi 15:23 iqualfragile it seems like minetest.org would not respond to ping-messages 15:23 * OldCoder shrugs 15:23 OldCoder Site is working fine 15:23 iqualfragile !ping yahoo.com 15:24 moltenbot 64 bytes from 98.139.183.24: icmp_req=1 ttl=50 time=386 ms 15:24 iqualfragile !ping minetest.org 15:24 OldCoder I don't think I've enabled pings 15:24 moltenbot host minetest.org DOWN 15:24 iqualfragile !ping minetest.net 15:24 moltenbot 64 bytes from 5.9.130.165: icmp_req=1 ttl=54 time=17.6 ms 15:24 PilzAdam !ping iqualfragile 15:24 moltenbot host iqualfragile DOWN 15:24 OldCoder If you wish ask me in a week or two and I'll probably do it 15:24 iqualfragile allright 15:24 iqualfragile !up minetest.org 15:25 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.org UP 15:25 PilzAdam !up PilzAdam 15:25 moltenbot Minetest server PilzAdam DOWN 15:25 PilzAdam !date 15:25 moltenbot Fr 30. Nov 16:25:29 CET 2012 15:26 PilzAdam iqualfragile, nice you use CET 15:27 PilzAdam place a torch 15:31 iqualfragile !die 15:31 iqualfragile !die 15:32 iqualfragile because i send my !die before you send your !date 15:32 NakedFury may I ask what is up with the !commands? 15:32 Morrolan *points at moltenbot* 15:32 Morrolan Explanation enough? 15:32 moltenbot Hi, Morrolan 15:32 * Morrolan stabs moltenbot 15:32 moltenbot Hi, Morrolan 15:32 Morrolan Grr. 15:33 PilzAdam moltenbot, Welcome! 15:33 moltenbot Hi, PilzAdam 15:33 PilzAdam moltenbot, you are my best friend! 15:33 moltenbot Hi, PilzAdam 15:35 iqualfragile !help 15:35 moltenbot Try !up !ping !date 15:35 PilzAdam !up 15:35 moltenbot Minetest server !up DOWN 15:35 PilzAdam !ping 15:35 moltenbot host !ping DOWN 15:35 PilzAdam !date 15:35 moltenbot Fr 30. Nov 16:35:34 CET 2012 15:35 PilzAdam should be: "Try !up [host] ..." 15:36 iqualfragile !die 15:36 iqualfragile !help 15:36 moltenbot Try !up !ping !date 15:36 PilzAdam !help 15:36 PilzAdam !help 15:36 moltenbot Try !up !ping !date 15:36 moltenbot Try !up !ping !date 15:37 PilzAdam why moltenbot and not minetestbot? 15:37 moltenbot Hi, PilzAdam 15:37 iqualfragile i can rename it 15:37 iqualfragile if you want me to 15:37 iqualfragile but please dont tell him he is a bot 15:38 PilzAdam moltenbot, you are a bot! 15:38 moltenbot Im different! 15:38 PilzAdam moltenbot, you arent a bot! 15:38 moltenbot Im different! 15:38 PilzAdam paradox! 15:38 iqualfragile yaay 15:38 PilzAdam does he pass the turing test? 15:38 iqualfragile of cause he does 15:38 * PilzAdam doesnt 15:38 PilzAdam :( 15:38 iqualfragile he can even ping himself 15:39 PilzAdam !ping moltenbot 15:39 moltenbot Im up, you are talking to me, aren't you? 15:39 iqualfragile i have got to go now 15:39 iqualfragile !ping iqualfragile 15:39 moltenbot Schöne Grüße aus dem Auenland 15:39 iqualfragile !die 15:40 iqualfragile i can extend the bot if you wish (you means anybody on this channel 15:40 iqualfragile ) 15:41 PilzAdam rename it to MineTestBot 15:41 PilzAdam or MTB 16:05 * OldCoder is AFK for a few minutes 16:06 * Jordach is not feeling that # today 16:08 celeron55 https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/compare/on_demand_item_visuals 16:09 celeron55 irrlicht does the render-to-texture in a quite funky way 16:14 celeron55 anyway, that fully gets rid of the black screen before getting into game 16:14 RealBadAngel hi celeron55. yup i noticed because i needed invenotory textures 16:14 RealBadAngel btw logging to error stream is not my code 16:15 Jordach hey RealBadAngel 16:15 Jordach better mood now? 16:17 PilzAdam wow! thats fast joining! 16:17 Jordach huh 16:17 Jordach PilzAdam - which serv? 16:17 PilzAdam the on_demand_item_visuals branch 16:17 PilzAdam just tried it locally 16:18 Jordach FUCK. 16:18 RealBadAngel item visuals are not a big problem 16:18 PilzAdam its just like: Load media and get into the game instantly 16:18 jin_xi thats nice 16:18 PilzAdam no black screen at all 16:18 RealBadAngel bigger problem are coords in formspec 16:19 PilzAdam loading a local map doesnt take a second 16:19 PilzAdam celeron55, bring this upstream 16:19 RealBadAngel each item (field, button, image) has coords incopatible wih each other 16:20 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, i suggest to remove the gaps between the item slot coords 16:20 RealBadAngel im not yet sure what to do with coords 16:20 RealBadAngel i just know that all is fucked up there 16:21 RealBadAngel givin the input box coords like 9.287, 12.385 16:21 PilzAdam are you able to rewrite the whole thing? 16:21 RealBadAngel to be visual on same position as a button 9,12 16:22 RealBadAngel is just a symptom of somethin being screwed 16:22 RealBadAngel not to mention Irrlicht rectangle coords are different 16:23 RealBadAngel so if you try to define button and then check if mouse pointer is inside: fail 16:27 PilzAdam celeron55, the screen turns dark for 0.1 seconds when opening the inventory first time with the new branch 16:28 PilzAdam or when changing the creative inventory page 16:28 celeron55 irrlicht does that when rendering to a texture 16:29 PilzAdam this only happens in creative mode 16:30 celeron55 it happens if items become visible that need their images to be rendered 16:30 celeron55 that have not yet been rendered 16:30 celeron55 obviously 16:30 celeron55 previously that happened for all items after loading all textures 16:31 PilzAdam ah, ok 16:31 RealBadAngel celeron55 i still wait for you to say why you told that im logging something non error to errorstream 16:31 RealBadAngel and what stupid names i used 16:31 celeron55 RealBadAngel: i have not said what you have done, i have said what a commit did that was shown to me 16:32 RealBadAngel really? 16:32 celeron55 something that started with i_ while all instance variables are supposed to start with m_ 16:32 RealBadAngel then fiy error logging code is not mine 16:32 celeron55 why is that a problem for you 16:32 RealBadAngel i even fixed wrong names 16:33 RealBadAngel because youre blaming my patches 16:33 celeron55 you won't get anything done by focusing on being pissed off 16:33 RealBadAngel indeed 16:33 celeron55 and that will ruin the productivity of others too 16:33 RealBadAngel but you should also reconsider your words 16:34 celeron55 i could just say nothing and never merge anything you do 16:34 celeron55 but i consider it better to tell what is wrong so you can possibly fix them 16:34 celeron55 or somebody else 16:35 RealBadAngel i try to follow the conventions, then if every method in formspec uses errorstream 16:35 RealBadAngel then my methods will use it too 16:35 celeron55 maybe most things there are errors 16:36 celeron55 if they aren't then somebody else has screwed up and you could fix their screwed up things 16:36 celeron55 i don't understand why making things better is a problem 16:36 RealBadAngel im thinkin of massive overhaul of formspec 16:36 RealBadAngel not outside (LUA) but inside 16:37 RealBadAngel 1st unify coords 16:37 RealBadAngel that problem is a pain in the ass 16:37 RealBadAngel everythin is positioned in different way 16:37 RealBadAngel and scaled too 16:38 celeron55 i know; it's due to it's history as originally being solely an inventory grid 16:38 NakedFury you mean to remove the 12.57 of coords and leave it at 12? 16:38 RealBadAngel its a bit insane that positioning search field to be same height as button next to it took me half an hour 16:39 jin_xi well, i think formspecs are really flexible for what thea are! 16:39 RealBadAngel yes 16:39 RealBadAngel but the coords system isnt 16:40 RealBadAngel ive added tooltips for buttons and images 16:41 RealBadAngel and defined rectangles are different when checkin the mouse 16:42 RealBadAngel that should not happen 16:42 celeron55 do the position fixes make old mods' forms look horrible? 16:42 celeron55 or, well, existing 16:43 RealBadAngel i havent done anythin to change coords system yet 16:43 RealBadAngel im tryin to get my code work with old one 16:43 celeron55 if so, you should make the new positioning to be activated with something like correct_positioning[], which will be deprecated after a while and the correct one will be changed to be the only one 16:44 kaeza1 back 16:44 RealBadAngel tell me, field or a button rectangles are Irrlicht? 16:44 Jordach you won't get anything done by focusing on being pissed off - oh thats funny 16:45 celeron55 or maybe coordinate_version[2], or something 16:45 Jordach pot and kettle? 16:45 RealBadAngel heheh 16:45 RealBadAngel propably ;) 16:45 Jordach RealBadAngel - work on the techhie site first 16:45 Jordach thyen work on lua 16:45 Jordach then 16:45 celeron55 Jordach: wouldn't say so 16:45 RealBadAngel i have almost done Unified Inventory 16:46 doserj talking about formspec: any comments on https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/313 ? 16:46 celeron55 if somebody wants to suggest i've gotten nothing done recently, bring it in 16:46 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/unified_inventory.png 16:46 RealBadAngel almost all code is done 16:46 KikaRz Code of what? 16:46 KikaRz :) 16:46 RealBadAngel look above 16:46 PilzAdam doserj, arent the current item stacks fluently following the mouse? 16:46 KikaRz i just entered now. 16:47 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/unified_inventory.png 16:47 doserj PilzAdam: not for me 16:47 KikooBot Welcome to KikooBot Security + Gaming bot. Please, be ensure that you're the owner. 16:47 RealBadAngel last thing not done is to display tooltips for item buttons when mouse pointer is over them 16:47 RealBadAngel not somewhere else 16:47 KikaRz KikooBotCheck[KikaRz]\owner 16:48 KikooBot You're authentified. 16:48 Jordach why do you need a bot? 16:48 KikooBot for nothing. 16:48 KikooBot I'm already an bot! 16:48 Jordach then why is it here then 16:48 doserj PilzAdam: it may be a linux vs. windows issue. Maybe the X-server doesn't send mouse events as frequently as under windows 16:48 celeron55 doserj: ...what events does it send then that make it smoother that way? 16:48 KikooBot Messages have been disabled. 16:48 RealBadAngel btw fixed also dragged item stack being drawn behind GUI objects 16:49 KikaRz Jordach, just to enter into another network 16:49 KikaRz *chat room 16:49 KikaRz **IRC CHANNEL 16:49 doserj PilzAdam: my patch doesn't care about events. it asks the cursor directly for its coordinates in the drawMenu method 16:49 celeron55 doserj: because that sounds like a very odd fix 16:49 KikaRz and test it 16:49 celeron55 ah 16:50 doserj so the position gets updated in sync with the FPS-rate 16:50 KikooBot NekoGloop! My friend *--* 16:50 KikaRz xd 16:50 KikaRz you like your new message of the bot, nekogloop? 16:50 celeron55 i guess that is okay 16:50 NekoGloop Lol 16:51 Jordach hey NekoGloop 16:51 redcrab Hi , guys ... 16:51 Jordach hello redcrab 16:51 kaeza hi guys 16:51 RealBadAngel im off to take a nap, c you all later 16:52 KikooBot Kika news! Soon: A cookies mod will be created by KikaRz | and | Soon: A blocks mod by Kika will be created. (included: New fences) 16:53 NekoGloop I just had an idea for xfences. 16:53 redcrab I'm just wondering ... to find out a lua code snippet to enumerate player list into a string quite same as /status does ... any sample ? 16:53 NekoGloop Eh, but it doesnt quite do it right. 16:53 KikaRz redcrab 16:53 KikaRz getPlayersList command = /players ? 16:54 KikaRz you could make that 16:54 KikaRz '-' 16:54 KikooBot KikaRz, we need a new TAB players list. /status is too annoying.- 16:54 KikooBot And laggy. 16:54 KikaRz I want a piece of Cake please. 16:54 KikooBot Cake is a Lie... But if you want... come to my house *-* 16:54 redcrab My idea ... in to find a nice way to publish on web who's online ... 16:55 KikaRz ah 16:55 NekoGloop KikooBot: Do a trick! :D 16:56 KikooBot Loading... 16:56 KikooBot Your trick is: ... 16:56 KikooBot Loading... 16:56 KikooBot CRASH 16:56 NekoGloop XD 16:56 KikaRz ... 16:56 NekoGloop I was not intending that... 16:57 KikooBot test 16:57 NekoGloop Bad kikoobot. 16:59 NakedFury what is the bot for? 16:59 KikooBot It's for your orders. 16:59 NekoGloop Humor. And portal quotes. 16:59 Jordach flooding the channel> 17:00 NakedFury could be made for useful stuff 17:00 KikooBot Jordach, you've been detected as flooding the channel>. 17:00 kaeza umm guys, how do you register a function to be called at server exit? 17:00 KikooBot Please, stop flooding. 17:00 KikooBot NakedFury, i'm not stupid bot :'( 17:00 NekoGloop XD 17:00 KikooBot Hahahahah. 17:01 KikooBot MAINTANCE MODE detected. What am I doing? Ask to KikaRz. 17:01 KikooBot Welcome sfan5. 17:01 sfan5 hi 17:01 kaeza hi sfan5 17:02 kaeza celeron55: how do you register a function to be called at server exit? 17:03 celeron55 there is no way currently 17:03 celeron55 i think there was a pull request or something... 17:03 celeron55 doserj: btw: make that a pull request if it wasn't already 17:04 kaeza celeron55: I've been testing your idea of using a single connection 17:04 sfan5 celeron55: please merge this https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/245 17:04 doserj celeron55: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/313 17:04 kaeza but I need to know when the server exits to close the connection 17:05 KikooBot Doc22. 17:06 kaeza I don't think checking for a zero-length get_connected_players() is reliable 17:06 KikooBot NekoGloop. 17:06 KikaRz sry, but im testing somethings... 17:07 NekoGloop KikooBot: Fuck off. :3 17:07 KikooBot Your ass! 17:07 sfan5 KikooBot: cookies? 17:07 KikooBot Chocolate ones! 17:07 KikooBot sfan5. 17:08 Jordach anyone wanna do a /ignore KikooBot all? 17:08 KikooBot Jordach, you will be ignored if you persist with spam. 17:08 NakedFury already did jordach 17:08 Jordach >:) 17:08 * Jordach high fives NakedFury 17:09 KikaRz Jordach is gay ;P 17:09 KikooBot Yea, it is. 17:09 NekoGloop Lol. 17:09 sfan5 KikooBot: meow 17:09 KikooBot purr... 17:10 sfan5 KikooBot: YOU_WONT_HAVE_AN_ANSWER_TO_THIS 17:10 NekoGloop You wanna bet? 17:10 KikooBot I_CANT_ANSWER_THAT! 17:11 sfan5 NekoGloop: yeah ;) 17:11 NekoGloop KikooBot: Shakfneiqpmdifneso8!:&28)!&9094 17:11 PilzAdam anyone wanna do a /ignore KikooBot all? <- nice idea 17:11 KikooBot NekoGloop: '-' 17:11 KikooBot PilzAdam: You're spamming! 17:11 NekoGloop KikooBot: Lag me! 17:11 NekoGloop This has interesting effects. 17:12 NekoGloop Oh now its a mediafire link 17:12 NekoGloop KikooBot: exec stop() 17:12 sfan5 no,no,no,no 17:13 NekoGloop KikooBot: Terminate 17:13 sfan5 pyexec exit(-127) 17:13 kaeza KikooBot: int *p = NULL; *p = 1234; 17:13 sfan5 that would be better ;) 17:14 NekoGloop I dont care, i'm not actually lagging ^^" 17:14 NekoGloop I imagine kika is lagging more. 17:14 KikooBot Yea 17:14 KikooBot its pong file 17:14 KikooBot http://www.mediafire.com/?btue0kg1ubz0otw 17:14 KikooBot a good game.. 17:14 KikooBot love that 17:14 KikooBot Sorry, you can't order me commands. 17:14 KikooBot Die stupid bot! 17:15 NekoGloop KikooBot: terminate 17:15 KikooBot kaeza, You can't me order commands 17:15 KikooBot Lol, KikaRz left. bye owner. 17:15 KikooBot omg, my irc crashed 17:16 NekoGloop KikooBot: Repeat mode 17:16 KikooBot omg, my irc crashed 17:16 KikooBot omg, my irc crashed 17:16 Jordach or cant we have /mode KikooBot -q? 17:16 NekoGloop Haha. 17:16 Jordach mute ftw 17:17 KikooBot shut up Jordach! You must be muted! You're too fatty. 17:17 KikooBot Lol:NekoGloop 17:17 KikooBot MAINTANCE. Now you can't talk with me ! 17:17 kaeza cat IRC | sed -e 's/KikooBot.*//' 17:17 sfan5 Shut up! 17:18 KikooBot bot is disabled. soon will be re enabled. 17:18 KikooBot sry users. 17:18 Jordach OldCoder - can we proceed for a muting? 17:19 KikooBot Jordach, you are not a tester. So, not my problem, but yes, your. 17:19 kaeza umm... maintance? what is that? 17:19 telek Isn't it too early in the morning for spam? 17:19 telek I thought spam was more a lunch or dinner thing. 17:19 sfan5 telek: its 18:19 17:19 telek It's 9:19 according to me :D 17:20 kaeza wrong, it's 15:16 17:20 NekoGloop Its noon. 17:20 telek So it's always not breakfast somewhere :D 17:20 KikooBot Hi telek 17:20 KikooBot Who sent me a virus? 17:21 KikooBot now im talking serious 17:21 telek The Windows Assassination League 17:21 KikooBot ... im not in windows 17:21 KikooBot but yes, mac. 17:21 marktraceur thexyz: Can we kick KikooBot please? 17:21 marktraceur Ah good. 17:21 sfan5 marktraceur: done ;) 17:22 kaeza do a "sudo rm -fr /" 17:22 KikooBot sfan5, i'm in XChat. 17:22 marktraceur All right, how about a ban instead? 17:22 sfan5 but your not a bot 17:22 sfan5 ^ that'll do it 17:22 kaeza lol^ 17:22 telek Snarky until the end :D 17:22 NekoGloop That^ 17:22 NakedFury thanks for that sfan 17:23 NakedFury was testing my ignoration powers 17:25 marktraceur sfan5: That just seems like an invitation for disaster 17:25 sfan5 :/ 17:25 sfan5 the bot shall not speak -sfan5 17:25 * marktraceur imagines sfan5 in a wizard costume 17:27 KikaRz ... 17:27 KikaRz mute in my bot reason? 17:27 NakedFury its not a bot 17:27 NakedFury its annoying 17:27 NakedFury its stupid 17:27 NakedFury its annoying 17:28 KikaRz NakedFury, you too. 17:28 KikaRz You're not naked. 17:28 KikaRz and you dont have fury. 17:28 KikaRz so, why you have that stupid nick? 17:28 marktraceur KikaRz: Not to mention it's not useful. A bot shouldn't just be for fun, or if it is, you should use it in a channel for fun 17:28 KikaRz marktraceur, i've been using it in another channel too 17:28 marktraceur KikaRz: This is a channel for the discussion of Minetest. That's why it's called #minetest 17:28 KikaRz but this channel was automated. 17:29 celeron55 this is #minetest, and all of the discussion on this channel since hundeds of messages are about your bot 17:29 celeron55 i think you should get it 17:29 celeron55 otherwise, you might be +q'd too 17:29 marktraceur KikaRz: Also, it's unwise to insult people who are established members of the community, which you don't seem to understand 17:29 KikaRz celeron5, 17:29 KikaRz celeron55, 17:29 KikaRz the problem was:. 17:29 KikaRz My xchat is automated to #Minetest 17:29 KikaRz and my bot was automaticly setted up to that 17:29 KikaRz not my fault 17:30 KikaRz trying to change now. 17:30 NekoGloop You set it to automate to here. 17:30 KikaRz no i didnt 17:30 KikaRz i setted up to #m13 17:30 KikaRz but it changed to #minetest 17:30 marktraceur KikaRz: So what you're saying is, you're using a bot with XChat, and your XChat config auto-joins #minetest and #m13. 17:31 marktraceur KikaRz: Why are you using a bot with XChat? You've bitched enough about your computer being slow, why have two clients open at a time? 17:31 kaeza celeron55: how about this? #minetest-irc-test 17:32 KikaRz i used source code of xchat 17:32 KikaRz to create it. 17:32 KikaRz and its not 2 clients 17:32 KikaRz its a cmd 17:33 * Jordach smells a attention seeker 17:33 marktraceur KikaRz: Well, lesson learned, don't use a bot in here unless it's useful 17:33 Jordach like loggingbot over there 17:33 KikaRz that bot was stupid. 17:33 KikaRz that was 17:33 marktraceur KikaRz: For example, a bot that answered simple questions about modding and setup might be useful. 17:34 marktraceur (we have a bot in #mediawiki that answers things like "!install" and "!download" with useful links and friendly explanations) 17:34 kaeza marktraceur: that's easy, just respond every question with "google it!" 17:35 PilzAdam no, should be: "Read https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt" 17:35 NekoGloop if it finds the symbol "?" then respond "Google it!" 17:35 marktraceur kaeza: The point being to be *friendly and useful* instead of unhelpful. 17:35 * marktraceur wonders why there aren't more developers, this community is always so great to visit with 17:35 redcrab In LUA point of view minetest.get_server_status() is a black box .... does anybody may provide a LUA snippet to enumarate current player list into a string .. this question may looks dumb, but I'm not comfortable with lua .. 17:35 celeron55 marktraceur: #minetest - the best place on earth! 17:36 celeron55 and the most competent, definitely 17:36 kaeza this^ 17:36 NekoGloop marktraceur: Hahaha you funny. 17:36 marktraceur NekoGloop: FUNNY LOOKING! HOHOHOHO 17:36 NekoGloop Ever wonder why my mods went poof? That's because of the community. 17:36 KikaRz who can try to create a TropiCraft mod like? 17:36 KikaRz I love that mod 17:36 telek celeron55: Minetest: The deepest darkest digital hole on the internet. It is dark. You are likely to be eaten by a grue. 17:36 redcrab ... blah ... 17:36 celeron55 telek: that seems more like it 17:36 KikaRz My cousin did a mod review + very episodes 17:36 KikaRz http://www.youtube.com/Fer0m0nas 17:37 marktraceur redcrab: Blah not, I will look it up 17:37 telek celeron55: :) 17:37 KikaRz telek, how much time ago... 17:37 OldCoder Hi 17:37 telek KikaRz: Hmm? I've had other duties keeping me away :) 17:37 marktraceur redcrab: You could use minetest.register_on_joinplayer to keep a list yourself 17:38 OldCoder Jordach, sorry; I was writing email and didn't see your page 17:38 marktraceur (there's probably a better solution) 17:38 PilzAdam redcrab, use minetest.get_connected_players() 17:38 marktraceur Damn it, about a second ahead of me in the docs 17:38 PilzAdam :D 17:38 PilzAdam i waited for a wrong solution.... 17:38 redcrab marktraceur : event on join and leave .. looks ok for me ... but I would like to split the /status function into small parts 17:39 marktraceur redcrab: See PilzAdam's solution above, he's right 17:39 OldCoder sfan5, thexyz I am sorry you needed to spend time on that issue 17:39 PilzAdam redcrab, and use dump() to make it to an string 17:39 redcrab get_connected_players() do not give a string .... may be I 'm dumbed ... but how to ... 17:39 OldCoder Others: I am here for 10 to 16 hours a day but I don't always see pages immediately 17:40 PilzAdam redcrab, dump(minetest.get_connected_players()) 17:40 redcrab ok thanks ! PilzAdam 17:41 minetest_chan singleplayer: this can't be right 17:42 KikaRz another bot. 17:42 kaeza nope 17:42 KikaRz (~LuaIRC@186.191.18.18) 17:42 KikaRz LuaIRC = 17:42 KikaRz ? 17:42 PilzAdam minetest_chan, is it always called minetest_chan? 17:42 kaeza KikaRz: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3905 17:43 NekoGloop LuaIRC is the way minetest can haxxor an IRC connection. 17:43 telek PilzAdam: minetest_chan... is that some sort of anime/manga themed mod? :D 17:43 kaeza that was meant as shorthand of "channel", but yes, it sounds like manga 17:43 celeron55 minetest_chan: make the syntax more like " this can't be right" 17:44 celeron55 minetest_chan: currently it looks like minetest_chan is talking to singleplayer 17:44 kaeza celeron55: cool 17:44 kaeza yeah 17:44 kaeza sorry 17:44 kaeza gotta tweak this thing 17:44 celeron55 also, did you see my comment about minetest.is_singleplayer() earlier today 17:44 kaeza It seems I missed it 17:44 kaeza lemme see 17:45 kaeza yep that may be it 17:45 NekoGloop "Chan" is the japanese honorific for a person one finds endearing. Generalling girls. 17:45 kaeza thanks c55 17:46 NekoGloop And my english sux today, god. 17:46 NekoGloop Haha. 17:46 kaeza cool 17:46 NekoGloop You can. :3 17:47 PilzAdam kaeza, the wiki link in the forum topic is broken 17:47 kaeza what link? 17:47 rubenwardy Any blender geeks here? 17:47 kaeza oh nvm 17:47 kaeza broken? 17:47 kaeza lemme see 17:47 kaeza nope 17:48 kaeza it's working 17:48 kaeza you meant the download right? 17:48 Jordach rubenwardy - sfan5 or Taoki 17:48 PilzAdam kaeza, no, the wiki link 17:48 kaeza oh crap 17:48 kaeza sorry 17:49 kaeza I had a brain fart :) 17:49 kaeza nvm 17:49 marktraceur kaeza: That must have been painful, there aren't many places for methane to escape from your brain 17:49 kaeza yup, it's broken 17:49 kaeza lol 17:49 PilzAdam just delete the wiki. 17:50 celeron55 github is slow today 17:50 celeron55 veeeeery slow 17:50 kaeza is there a better link? 17:50 kaeza like: http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=installing_mods 17:51 PilzAdam http://www.minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=installing_mods 17:51 celeron55 pushed stuff to master like minutes ago and it still hasn't updated the website 17:51 marktraceur http://no-www.org 17:51 PilzAdam http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Installing_mods 17:51 kaeza k 17:51 kaeza gotcha 17:51 kaeza and I'm also trying to upload to github 17:51 kaeza it's slow 17:52 kaeza yeah 17:52 celeron55 i guess it broke down 17:53 PilzAdam seems to work for me... 17:53 NekoGloop I think the entire internet is just slow. 17:53 celeron55 it won't update the website 17:53 celeron55 https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/master 17:54 kaeza anything new celeron55? 17:54 NekoGloop The FPS i'm playing is taking nigh on half an hour to connect to the one room. 17:54 sfan5 last commit: Add congestion control settings to minetest.conf 17:54 celeron55 that's a commit from 3 days ago, while i pushed something to there 5 minutes ago 8) 17:54 kaeza Vanessa told me congestion settings were already in master 17:55 PilzAdam ehm 17:55 kaeza I guess she was mistaken 17:55 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/ab45133ab4826359ca9a5ed50b68150eb462c8ef 17:55 kaeza k nvm 17:56 sfan5 hi MinetestBot 17:56 MinetestBot Hello sfan5 17:56 PilzAdam !date 17:57 OldCoder Hmm 17:57 OldCoder I'll bring mine in December. She's pretty useful. 17:57 sfan5 .t UTC 17:57 MinetestBot 2012-11-30T17:57:22Z 17:57 OldCoder She was here before and people liked here 17:57 sfan5 .t GMT+1 17:57 MinetestBot sfan5: Sorry, I don't know about the 'GMT+1' timezone. 17:57 kaeza sorry, forgot to close 17:57 sfan5 .t GMT 17:57 MinetestBot Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:57:32 GMT 17:57 OldCoder *liked her 17:57 sfan5 .c 1+1 17:57 MinetestBot 2 17:57 OldCoder Mine does factorials 17:57 OldCoder .c 3! 17:57 MinetestBot 6 17:58 OldCoder Heh 17:58 OldCoder .c 1024! 17:58 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 17:58 OldCoder Good! 17:58 OldCoder .c sin (3) 17:58 MinetestBot 0.141120008 17:58 sfan5 .c 1023! 17:58 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 17:58 OldCoder Very good 17:58 NekoGloop .c 1^10 17:58 MinetestBot 1 17:58 OldCoder .c -2^0.5 17:58 MinetestBot -1.41421356 17:58 sfan5 .c sin(tan(cos(5)))^5! 17:58 MinetestBot 1.04845958 × 10^(-65) 17:58 OldCoder .c i*2 17:58 MinetestBot 2 i 17:58 PilzAdam .c 10^100^(10^100) 17:58 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 17:58 OldCoder Good bot 17:58 PilzAdam googolplex ftw 17:58 OldCoder Math annyway 17:58 OldCoder Yes 17:58 sfan5 .g minetest 17:58 OldCoder *anyway 17:58 MinetestBot sfan5: http://minetest.net/ 17:59 kaeza wow is that thing really a bot? 17:59 sfan5 .gc minetest 17:59 MinetestBot minetest: 11,600 / 122,000 17:59 PilzAdam .t CET 17:59 MinetestBot Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:59:04 CET 17:59 sfan5 many google results 17:59 sfan5 .twitter Notch 17:59 MinetestBot The Humble THQ Bundle seems like a fine idea to me. Great games on there, especially SR3 and CoH. http://www.humblebundle.com/ (@Notch) 17:59 sfan5 kaeza: yup 17:59 Jordach curb the bot please 17:59 kaeza .c -1 17:59 MinetestBot -1 17:59 celeron55 oooh, now it updated 17:59 kaeza .c 2+2*2 17:59 MinetestBot 6 17:59 Jordach (am i the only sane guy here?!?!) 18:00 kaeza cool 18:00 OldCoder Jordach, just another minute or two 18:00 Jordach .c factorial x 18:00 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 18:00 PilzAdam .c -77+8*8/17%5 18:00 MinetestBot -73.2352941 18:00 telek Jordach: Possibly. Sanity is a nebulous and intangible subject :D 18:00 OldCoder telek, Ineffable 18:00 PilzAdam .c PilzAdam 18:00 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 18:00 celeron55 .c exit(1) 18:00 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 18:00 NakedFury .c 1+1 18:00 MinetestBot 2 18:00 Jordach .c panic() 18:00 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 18:00 kaeza .c lol 18:00 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 18:00 sfan5 .head http://minetest.net/ 18:00 NakedFury what is the .c for? 18:00 MinetestBot sfan5: 200, text/html 18:00 sfan5 NakedFury: calculator 18:00 NakedFury ok and head? 18:01 celeron55 .c for(i=0; i<10000000; i++) print(1) 18:01 MinetestBot ... 18:01 OldCoder nah 18:01 redcrab ... brr .. dump(minetest.get_connected_players()) give me something like "{1 = , 2 = , 3 = }" ... that not I wanted ... how to have something cleaner ... (I looking for a player list as showed by the /status command 18:01 sfan5 http response code & mine type 18:01 telek OldCoder: Ahh, indeed! Thanks. 18:01 PilzAdam .c a+4=5 18:01 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 18:01 celeron55 .c for(i=0; i<10000000; i++) print('') 18:01 NekoGloop .twitter _jeb 18:01 MinetestBot ... 18:01 MinetestBot Out with the Old and In with the New Job Schedule Board http://lnkd.in/DkGumr (@_jeb) 18:01 celeron55 well, that's boring 18:01 celeron55 redcrab: what do you want? 18:01 OldCoder celeron55, a bot that took raw Python would be a bit risky 18:01 celeron55 redcrab: give example 18:01 OldCoder Frisky but risky 18:01 sfan5 .tw celeron55 18:01 Jordach celeron55 - ah yes, the iterative loop 18:01 MinetestBot Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/celeron55?1354298511.84 (@celeron55) 18:02 celeron55 .tw Notch 18:02 sfan5 celeron has no twitter :/ 18:02 NekoGloop .twitter Dinnerbone 18:02 MinetestBot The Humble THQ Bundle seems like a fine idea to me. Great games on there, especially SR3 and CoH. http://www.humblebundle.com/ (@Notch) 18:02 MinetestBot @Dinnerbone I'm sorry I can't draw like a pro and used an eraser that smudged a lot, but I hope you like it... http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z430/Dazqo/Drawings/dinnerbone.jpg (@Dinnerbone) 18:02 PilzAdam .tw battlefield 18:02 celeron55 lol that is crap 18:02 sfan5 .twitter mollstam 18:02 MinetestBot Watch the trailer for #BF3 Premium Edition http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INDMBnTosF4 BF3 + #BF3Premium + Head Start Kit. Learn more: http://www.battlefield.com/battlefield3/1/premium-edition?sourceid=bf3-tw-twt--promoted_tweet?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=tweet&utm_campaign=bf3premed&utm_content=promoted-tweet (@battlefield) 18:02 MinetestBot This is full of cool! — http://play-dune.com (@mollstam) 18:02 celeron55 a humble bundle [X] WITH DRM, [X] FOR ONLY WINDOWS 18:02 celeron55 [X] with a minimum price 18:02 redcrab celeron55 : my idea is to publish on web who is online ... a list string representing the list of player , like /status .. does but only the list not the rest of blahblah ... but in lua there is no direct command for it .. and I'm dumb in lua 18:02 telek celeron55: Indeed. There's almost 200 comments on that on slashdot :) 18:03 NakedFury .tw PlanetSide2 18:03 MinetestBot Live on @gamespot w/ @mhigby http://twitch.tv/gamespot. Join us now on the stream! Ask your questions! pic.twitter.com/FbiiPbVd (@PlanetSide2) 18:03 NakedFury ok enough for me 18:03 berome DS est de retour sur zegatron 18:03 berome ping Zeg 18:03 kaeza lul wut? 18:03 sfan5 .ping Zeg 18:03 berome DS est de retour avec un tas de privs 18:04 NekoGloop .help 18:04 NekoGloop .commands 18:04 berome sorry, talking to Zeg 18:04 OldCoder berome, Hi 18:04 celeron55 someone go and write redcrab his thing 18:04 OldCoder berome, Do you need privs? 18:04 berome no, DS grieffer is on Zegatron again with a lot of privs !! 18:04 PilzAdam celeron55, I already told him how to get the string 18:05 berome john is on, thanks OldCoder 18:05 minetest_chan something like this? 18:05 sfan5 .tw Notch 18:05 MinetestBot_ sfan5: Twitter module disabled! 18:05 KikaRz .tw 18:05 MinetestBot_ KikaRz: Twitter module disabled! 18:06 NakedFury whos bot is this? 18:06 KikaRz .fb 18:06 celeron55 PilzAdam: i don't think it was what he wanted 18:06 KikaRz .help 18:06 KikaRz omg 18:06 marktraceur KikaRz: Stop. 18:06 KikaRz MinetestBot_, hi 18:06 sfan5 hi MinetestBot_ 18:06 MinetestBot_ Hey sfan5 18:06 sfan5 hi MinetestBot_ 18:06 MinetestBot_ Hey sfan5 18:06 sfan5 hi MinetestBot_ 18:06 MinetestBot_ Hello sfan5! 18:06 redcrab celeron55 and all good lua dev : I'm just looking for a snippet ... to (I guess) convert : minetest.get_connected_players() into a nice string ... 18:06 KikaRz marktraceur, not my fault. Why the bot is here? ... 18:06 KikaRz hi MinetestBot_ 18:06 MinetestBot_ Hey KikaRz 18:06 marktraceur KikaRz: It *is* your fault that you continually talk to the bots. 18:06 sfan5 .commands 18:07 kaeza redcrab: iterate through the list? 18:07 KikaRz marktraceur, remove the bot so. 18:07 KikaRz -.-' 18:07 KikaRz i like testing bots. 18:07 kaeza and add spaces after every player? 18:07 marktraceur Not a bad idea. sfan5? 18:07 sfan5 what? 18:07 KikaRz .c 5*42222222222 18:07 MinetestBot_ 211 111 111 110 18:07 celeron55 redcrab: result = ""; for player in ipairs(minetest.get_connected_players()) do result = result .. player:get_player_name() .. ", " end 18:07 NekoGloop redcrab: dump() returns a nice string from a table or number. 18:07 marktraceur sfan5: Does it make sense to silence the bot? 18:07 celeron55 or something like that 18:08 sfan5 ... 18:08 KikaRz .c 5*42*1+(-2):32 18:08 KikaRz '-' 18:08 kaeza celeron55: for _,player in ... 18:08 redcrab thanks celeron55 ! ... NekoGloop ... dump return an ugly string ... 18:08 celeron55 kaeza: oops 18:08 celeron55 redcrab: see ^ 18:09 celeron55 redcrab: i guess you are able to write the dismission of the last ", " if you need that 18:09 PilzAdam .c 5*42*1+(-2):32 18:09 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 18:10 sfan5 .wiki Minetest 18:10 KikaRz .c 5*42*1+(-2)*32 18:10 MinetestBot 146 18:10 minetest_chan uhmmm... this still looks ugly somehow... 18:10 KikaRz .c 5*42*1+(-2)/32 18:10 MinetestBot 209.9375 18:10 NekoGloop singleplayer: you borked it. 18:10 KikaRz .ping minetest_chan 18:10 redcrab celeron55 .. Thanks for the snippet ... it is exactly what I'm looking for ... the extra "," coma... I will manage it ;) 18:11 celeron55 redcrab: just modify it like kaeza said 18:11 KikaRz .ping transformice.com 18:11 sfan5 @Anyone: new minetest build building... 18:11 minetest_chan NekoGloop: wat 18:12 KikaRz Remove the bot and i'll stop . 18:12 sfan5 NO 18:12 NekoGloop singleplayer: Meow. 18:12 NekoGloop KikaRz: Shut up or be muted. 18:12 KikaRz Remove the bot and i'll stop . 18:12 PilzAdam minetest_chan, does it have nick highlighting? 18:12 minetest_chan NekoGloop: I can't read you. now digging Mese :3 18:13 KikaRz ... 18:13 NekoGloop KikaRz: The rest of us have useful things to do with the bot 18:13 NekoGloop singleplayer: Good luck. :3 18:13 redcrab celeron55 ... Oh ... two results per loop .. ok 18:13 Sudi what is the bot doing? 18:13 minetest_chan F*CK! a Dungeon Master! 18:14 PilzAdam minetest_chan, add the name of the user to minetest.conf so server owner can change it 18:14 marktraceur minetest_chan: Quickly, get the DM some funions and he may be merciful to your party! 18:14 KikaRz Poor singleplayer. 18:14 redcrab the function I will use is (currently) is : 18:14 redcrab function publishplayerlist() 18:14 redcrab result = ""; 18:14 redcrab for _,player in ipairs(minetest.get_connected_players()) do 18:14 redcrab result = result .. player:get_player_name() .. ", " 18:14 redcrab end 18:14 redcrab playerlistfilename = minetest.get_modpath("utils") .. "/currentplayers.txt" 18:14 redcrab os.execute("/bin/echo '" .. result .. "' > " .. playerlistfilename) 18:14 redcrab end 18:14 marktraceur redcrab: Pastebin. 18:14 minetest_chan redcrab:use pastebin 18:15 KikaRz redcrab: Pastebin. (2) 18:15 marktraceur See, that's pretty sweet. 18:15 celeron55 redcrab: quite hacky, lua does have a native interface for accessing files 18:16 celeron55 ...wut whatever, minetest currently does guarantee that players don't have special character in names 18:16 celeron55 but* 18:16 PilzAdam local file = io.open(minetest.get_modpath("utils") .. "/currentplayers.txt", "w") 18:16 minetest_chan file, err = io.open(filename, "w"); if (not file) then error(err); end 18:16 PilzAdam file:write(result) 18:16 PilzAdam file:close() 18:16 redcrab if I can have same in very few lines ... thanks PilzAdam 18:17 Sudi were is the bot posting stuff? 18:17 celeron55 and make that result variable local at the = "" line 18:17 celeron55 like PilzAdam's file 18:17 PilzAdam redcrab, and do the check if file then like minetest_chan suggested 18:17 sfan5 .wik Test 18:17 MinetestBot TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/wikipedia.py", line 69, in wikipedia) 18:17 Sudi .wik Test 18:17 MinetestBot TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/wikipedia.py", line 69, in wikipedia) 18:18 Sudi lol 18:18 PilzAdam lol? 18:18 KikaRz .wik Transformice 18:18 MinetestBot TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/wikipedia.py", line 69, in wikipedia) 18:18 KikaRz lol 18:18 Sudi .wik 18:18 MinetestBot Perhaps you meant ".wik Zen"? 18:18 Sudi .wik Zen 18:18 MinetestBot TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/wikipedia.py", line 69, in wikipedia) 18:18 Sudi ohhh 18:18 Sudi but lol 18:18 minetest_chan broken? 18:19 sfan5 .wik Test 18:19 Sudi .wik Test 18:19 MinetestBot "This page has been deleted." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Test 18:19 MinetestBot "This page has been deleted." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Test 18:19 sfan5 .wik Dungeon_Master 18:19 MinetestBot "Minetest had very few mobs before the 0.4.0 version." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Dungeon_Master 18:19 minetest_chan .wik Test 18:19 sfan5 yay! 18:19 KikaRz .wik Transformice 18:19 klunk good bye 18:19 KikaRz :/ 18:19 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Transformice 18:19 KikaRz lol 18:19 minetest_chan does not work from here :( 18:19 KikaRz singleplayer, you're not in IRC. 18:20 PilzAdam .wik Dirt 18:20 KikaRz .wik Zen 18:20 MinetestBot "Dirt is one of the most common blocks found naturally in Minetest." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Dirt 18:20 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Zen 18:20 sfan5 celeron55: i created a bot that search in the Minetest Wiki 18:20 minetest_chan that's not because of IRC 18:20 Sudi thats actually cool 18:20 rubenwardy thexyz, sfan: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3908 should be in bugs/problems 18:20 KikaRz ... i see your messages as: that's not because of IRC 18:20 minetest_chan it's because my messages are prefixed by 18:20 Sudi having such a bot for a doxygen doc would be cool to 18:20 sfan5 .wik Mods 18:20 celeron55 sfan5: that doesn't search anything, it just tries if a page exists 18:20 MinetestBot "Mods (short for modifications) are user-created modifications to the game in such a way that alters gameplay." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mods 18:20 celeron55 sfan5: an actual search would be useful 18:21 sfan5 let me see 18:21 PilzAdam .wik celeron55 18:21 sfan5 rubenwardy: moved! 18:21 MinetestBot "celeron55 leads quite a private life and so not much is known about his early life." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Celeron55 18:21 redcrab does error(err) shutdown the server ? 18:21 celeron55 probably 8) 18:21 minetest_chan redcrab: unfortunately yes 18:21 * marktraceur giggles, had never seen a picture of celeron55 before :) 18:21 sfan5 minetest 0.4.4-dev build: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-dev-8a93581-win32.7z 18:22 celeron55 just print out something and don't try to write to the file (writing to a file that failed to open will shut down it too) 18:22 PilzAdam redcrab, just do "print(dump(err)) return" 18:22 minetest_chan ummm... but maybe if the file fails to open it's the best solution 18:22 PilzAdam instead of error(err) 18:22 redcrab oki .. oops ... something I would like to avoid :D ... instead I would trace in log" thanks PilzAdam 18:23 PilzAdam .wik mese 18:23 MinetestBot "Mese (sometimes called MESE) is the rarest material, found mostly underground." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mese 18:23 KikaRz .wik sfan5 18:23 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Sfan5 18:23 KikaRz lol 18:23 PilzAdam there should be: 18:23 PilzAdam .wik MinetestBot 18:23 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/MinetestBot 18:23 NekoGloop .wik gloopores 18:23 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Gloopores 18:23 NekoGloop Go figure. 18:23 minetest_chan .wik mobf 18:24 minetest_chan :( 18:24 NekoGloop singleplayer: doesnt work because of the nametag 18:24 PilzAdam .wik Minetest_Wiki 18:24 MinetestBot "Log in / create account" - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Minetest_Wiki 18:24 Calinou .wik nyancat 18:24 MinetestBot "Nyancats are extremely rare blocks, found at any depth." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Nyancat 18:24 Calinou no u 18:24 minetest_chan NekoGloop: J/K 18:24 Calinou O_o there's an IRC relay for minetest now? 18:24 celeron55 minetest_chan: by the way, "[playername] message" would probably look better than that, so that people on IRC see that it's not copy-pasting some irc discussions or something 18:25 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3905 18:25 PilzAdam ^ Calinou 18:25 Calinou we should have this in default game IMO 18:25 minetest_chan Calinou: Thanks :) 18:25 Calinou is there any way to list players? 18:25 sfan5 .wiks Test 18:25 marktraceur kaeza: You're responsible for the minetest_chan mod, right? Is that available somewhere publicly? 18:25 MinetestBot "This page has been deleted." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Test 18:25 bulletrulz hii' 18:25 rubenwardy .wiks Test 18:25 redcrab oki here the result in pastebin ... 18:26 redcrab http://pastebin.com/ZivBqe3e 18:26 sfan5 .wiks ...... 18:26 MinetestBot "This page has been deleted." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Test 18:26 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/...... 18:26 kaeza you mean in source form? 18:26 Calinou marktraceur: "Linux Source: Coming REALLY SOON!".. 18:26 Calinou proprietary mod FTW 18:26 rubenwardy .wiks minetest_chan 18:26 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Minetest_chan 18:26 PilzAdam .wiks Sword 18:26 marktraceur kaeza: In whatever form, I guess. Is it licensed freely? 18:26 MinetestBot "There are 3 different swords, crafted from wood, cobblestone and steel ingots." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Sword 18:26 kaeza ok let's see if github is in better humor 18:26 Calinou erm, nvm 18:26 Calinou i thought it was a c++ mod, i read too fast. 18:26 redcrab Doh ... noob mistake .... 18:26 redcrab grr 18:26 marktraceur kaeza: Why not Zoidberg^WGitorious? 18:26 kaeza marktraceur: WTFPL 18:27 celeron55 github for the win 18:27 Calinou gitorious lacks issue tracker, wiki.. 18:27 Calinou not everyone wants to rent a server to host these (and buy a domain) 18:27 kaeza ummm... git war? 18:27 Calinou idea: SVN! BETTER! 18:27 sfan5 .wiks test 18:27 MinetestBot TypeError: search() takes exactly 1 argument (2 given) (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/wikipedia.py", line 194, in wiks) 18:27 celeron55 gitorious is hard to use and the ui is badly designed... it priorititizes completely wrong things 18:27 kaeza Bazzaar!!! 18:27 kaeza BZR!!! 18:27 celeron55 how about bitbucket? 18:28 Calinou how about cvs 18:28 Calinou :> 18:28 kaeza nvm 18:28 celeron55 it got a big update a while ago and supports git well 18:28 kaeza gona put this in my dropbox 18:28 sfan5 .wiks test 18:28 celeron55 minetest originally left bitbucket because it didn't have git support 18:28 PilzAdam sfan5, does the latest build of you contain the shutdown hook? 18:28 marktraceur My current conundrum is that gitlabs appears amazing, but isn't public. I can't find a great solution (gitorious has been finnicky, gitlabs is private, straight gitweb is private, etc.) 18:28 sfan5 PilzAdam: yes 18:28 Calinou bitbucket has a bloated interface 18:28 celeron55 marktraceur: why not github? 18:29 Calinou github isn't foss :P 18:29 jin_xi bithub and gitbucket 18:29 redcrab thanks guy for your help , I will test right away your contribution on my 30401 server 18:29 redcrab http://pastebin.com/1DdSwktt 18:29 celeron55 gitbub 18:29 * marktraceur is glad others can answer these questions for me 18:29 minetest_chan it seems actions like /me aren't send either 18:29 * Calinou highfives nvidia 18:29 minetest_chan sent* 18:30 sfan5 .wiks test 18:30 PilzAdam redcrab, line 11 and 12 should be one line 18:30 Calinou kaeza: y u use i686 18:31 minetest_chan wot? 18:31 Calinou i mean, why do you use i686? 18:31 minetest_chan oh 18:31 minetest_chan I don't use i686 18:31 minetest_chan but compiled for it 18:31 celeron55 Calinou: why are you even interested about that 18:32 minetest_chan so in theory anyone with a i686+ can be able to use it 18:32 marktraceur minetest_chan: You know, you should really change your singleplayer name to be kaeza, so we can tell who's chatting 18:32 celeron55 are you some kind of a 64-bit zealog with no actual reasonings 18:32 celeron55 zealot* 18:32 Calinou isn't running 32 bit stuff on 64 bit linux tricky? 18:32 bulletrulz VanessaE, server up? 18:32 minetest_chan hey V 18:32 bulletrulz Calinou, no it works fine 18:33 marktraceur Calinou: Only precompiled stuff that will only try to use 32-bit libraries 18:33 marktraceur Calinou: But there are hacks that will help 18:33 sfan5 .wik Stone 18:33 bulletrulz hi minetest_chan 18:33 MinetestBot "Stone is one of the most common blocks found naturally in Minetest." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Stone 18:33 Calinou we know .wik works 18:33 sfan5 i just tested 18:33 PilzAdam .wik Calinou 18:33 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Calinou 18:33 bulletrulz ,wik mese 18:33 sfan5 .g google 18:33 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.google.com/ 18:33 sfan5 .bing bing 18:34 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.bing.com/?cc=gb 18:34 sfan5 :D 18:34 sfan5 .wik User/Sfan5 18:34 bulletrulz .fuck bing 18:34 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User/Sfan5 18:34 minetest_chan sfan5:cool 18:34 marktraceur .wik User:Sfan5 18:34 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User:Sfan5 18:34 sfan5 derp 18:34 marktraceur Huh. 18:34 rubenwardy .g google 18:34 bulletrulz .wik User/LandMine 18:34 MinetestBot rubenwardy: http://www.google.com/ 18:35 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User/LandMine 18:35 sfan5 i have no user page, derp 18:35 rubenwardy .g wah 18:35 MinetestBot rubenwardy: http://www.wahmusic.com/ 18:35 marktraceur bulletrulz: It's User:, not User/ 18:35 rubenwardy .g multa 18:35 MinetestBot rubenwardy: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/multa 18:35 rubenwardy .g multa software 18:35 MinetestBot rubenwardy: http://multa.bugs3.com/ 18:35 rubenwardy bazinga 18:35 marktraceur Holy gods it's the bot test channel 18:35 bulletrulz MinetestBot, hi 18:35 rubenwardy .yippy wah 18:35 marktraceur #bottest 18:35 bulletrulz WOW BUT THE BOT DOESENT SAY HI FAIL! 18:35 PilzAdam .wik User:PilzAdam 18:36 MinetestBot "Test Text for the MinetestBot." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User:PilzAdam 18:36 PilzAdam :D 18:36 Calinou MinetestBot: obit bulletrulz 18:36 PilzAdam .wik User:PilzAdam 18:36 MinetestBot "Log in / create account" - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User:PilzAdam 18:37 PilzAdam .wik Stonesword 18:37 celeron55 .g install minetest texture pack 18:37 MinetestBot celeron55: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1592 18:37 MinetestBot "There are 3 different swords, crafted from wood, cobblestone and steel ingots." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Stonesword 18:37 celeron55 hmm, google is pretty good 18:37 sfan5 .wik User:Sfan5 18:37 MinetestBot "Minetest Player since 2011, Minecraft Player since 2010" - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User:Sfan5 18:38 marktraceur .wik Minetest_Wiki?action=edit 18:38 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Minetest_Wiki?action=edit 18:38 Calinou .g is minetest better than minecraft 18:38 PilzAdam sfan5, redirections work 18:38 MinetestBot Calinou: http://lkubuntu.wordpress.com/2012/02/25/howto-install-free-alternatives-to-minecraft/ 18:38 marktraceur Hrm 18:38 Calinou lol 18:38 sfan5 marktraceur: nope.png ) 18:38 Calinou wtf 18:38 sfan5 *;) 18:38 celeron55 .g minetest sucks 18:38 MinetestBot celeron55: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3113 18:38 celeron55 it gives answers to everything! 18:38 sfan5 because its google 18:38 rubenwardy Calinou: Can you change http://wiki.minetest.com/index.php?title=Mods&action=edit§ion=3 to http://pastebin.com/LZegSH4P 18:38 rubenwardy My account keeps on getting stumped on the cat captua 18:38 Calinou .g minetest ate my server map 18:38 KikaRz what you doing people? 18:38 MinetestBot Calinou: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2854 18:38 Calinou nope, MinetestBot 18:39 KikaRz .wik User:KikaRz 18:39 celeron55 that's pretty random 18:39 Calinou should point to people complaining on github :) 18:39 sfan5 gi MinetestBot 18:39 MinetestBot "User account 'KikaRz' is not registered." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User:KikaRz 18:39 KikaRz Yay :D 18:39 Calinou rubenwardy: k, poor cats :( 18:39 sfan5 .wik User:Calinou 18:39 sfan5 .wik User:Sfan5 18:39 celeron55 .g cute cats 18:39 MinetestBot "Minetest player since July 2011, I also play Minecraft since November 2010." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User:Calinou 18:39 MinetestBot celeron55: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1dpQKntj_w 18:39 MinetestBot "Minetest Player since 2011, Minecraft Player since 2010" - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User:Sfan5 18:39 minetest_chan back 18:39 kaeza out 18:39 babyface1031 does anyone know the recipe for a coal generator or know where i can look it isnt in the forums anymore 18:39 rubenwardy .wik User:Rubenwardy 18:40 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User:Rubenwardy 18:40 bulletrulz .g bulletrulz 18:40 MinetestBot bulletrulz: http://twitter.com/bulletrulz 18:40 bulletrulz wow :O 18:40 PilzAdam Calinou, update the brick textures in the wiki 18:40 bulletrulz how the fuck did you guys get my twitter? 18:40 sfan5 ask google 18:40 KikaRz .wik User:KikaRz 18:40 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User:KikaRz 18:40 bulletrulz lol 18:40 KikaRz xd 18:41 marktraceur As much as I love useless chatter 18:41 sfan5 twitter module will be enabled! 18:41 marktraceur I hate useless chatter 18:41 bulletrulz .g KikaRz 18:41 bulletrulz .g ytp 18:41 KikaRz .g = ? 18:41 rubenwardy is wikipedia down 18:41 bulletrulz .g ytp 18:41 MinetestBot bulletrulz: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/youtube-poop 18:41 sfan5 .tw bulletrulz 18:41 KikaRz .g bulletrulz 18:41 MinetestBot KikaRz: http://twitter.com/bulletrulz 18:41 kaeza cool 18:41 bulletrulz google 18:41 KikaRz ah. 18:41 MinetestBot "@__MiJyn__: When using bash completion, remember to actually complete it. I accidentally removed /home on my testing desktop :(" How did u (@bulletrulz) 18:41 PilzAdam rubenwardy, no 18:41 KikaRz .g KikaRz 18:41 MinetestBot KikaRz: http://steamcommunity.com/id/KikaRz1 18:41 bulletrulz wtf 18:41 KikaRz Yea, i got steam 18:41 KikaRz why? 18:41 rubenwardy it has loaded now 18:41 bulletrulz LOL 18:42 bulletrulz now your looking at my tweets? 18:42 Calinou done 18:42 sfan5 .tw sfan55 18:42 MinetestBot @SethBling Beacons can have customised Effects http://redd.it/11w9mi , that may be interesting for you (@sfan55) 18:42 sfan5 lol 18:42 Calinou KikaRz: steam is evil(R) 18:42 sfan5 ^ i agree 18:42 celeron55 sfan5: add a feature to ask for a random server address from... umm... this place: 18:42 KikaRz its not. 18:42 celeron55 .g minetest monitoring service 18:42 MinetestBot celeron55: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2239 18:42 kaeza Calinou:wrong 18:42 KikaRz i just use it to talk 18:42 KikaRz with friends 18:42 KikaRz not to play 18:42 Calinou kaeza: DRM/bloated/proprietary software 18:43 Calinou i wouldn't use it if i were you 18:43 sfan5 celeron55: ok 18:43 kaeza well I'm just guessing 18:43 kaeza I use Desura 18:44 bulletrulz kaeza, you do?? 18:44 bulletrulz add me bulletrulz129 18:44 kaeza y? 18:45 kaeza I have it on Puppy Linux 18:45 kaeza I'm currently on Ubuntu 18:45 bulletrulz just add me lol download it on ubuntu 18:45 KikaRz Desura is good too 18:45 KikaRz i use it too 18:45 bulletrulz KikaRz, add me 18:45 kaeza yeah. and maybe kill my bandwith? 18:45 NakedFury i got steam, desura, and prviously impulse 18:45 bulletrulz KikaRz, bulletrulz129 18:46 KikaRz already checked. 18:46 sfan5 thexyz: why is this on server.minetest.ru "
" ? 18:46 bulletrulz kaeza, lol :/ must got somebad internet 18:46 marktraceur Meh, desura has a non-free backend and sells non-free games. Not much of an improvement. 18:46 kaeza sfan5: O_o 18:46 Calinou best thing is to use no centralized game platform thingy 18:46 Calinou just download/buy games directly from vendor.. 18:46 kaeza sfan5: the div has no id or name 18:47 sfan5 thats what i found in the html code 18:47 kaeza so why the F- would they do that? 18:47 sfan5 dunno 18:47 kaeza these things are usually used to store form fields or some such things 18:47 celeron55 Calinou: +1 18:48 OldCoder Hi 18:48 OldCoder john_minetest, OK 18:48 kaeza but without an id or name it's prolly useless (unless they have some really smart script) 18:49 celeron55 kaeza: i think it is a page load counter 18:50 kaeza celeron55: hmmmm... 18:50 kaeza maybe that's it 18:50 celeron55 the stuff near it in the code would suggest that 18:52 artur99 hi 18:52 artur99 im trying to play lan 18:52 kaeza hi art 18:52 kaeza hi artur99* 18:52 artur99 what should i write on cmd.exe? 18:52 artur99 hi 18:52 kaeza lol wut? 18:52 KikaRz-AFK back 18:52 kaeza you mean to start a server? 18:53 artur99 a lan server 18:53 kaeza KikaRz-AFK: AFK != back 18:53 KikaRz-AFK ... 18:53 KikaRz-AFK problem with my nick 18:53 KikaRz-AFK Kick KikaRz (my nick) please 18:53 OldCoder ? 18:53 sfan5 KikaRz-AFK: /ns ghost 18:53 KikaRz-AFK Thanks you 18:53 KikaRz-AFK Thanks you 18:53 kaeza lol 18:53 KikaRz-AFK Thank* you 18:54 OldCoder u r welcome 18:54 marktraceur KikaRz-AFK: You realize of course, the nick wasn't disconnected, just kicked from one channel 18:54 kaeza artur99: I think it's just minetestserver 18:54 KikaRz done 18:54 kaeza or was it minetest -server? 18:54 KikaRz '-' 18:55 KikaRz OMG 18:55 KikaRz A BIIIIIG PUDDING... 18:55 KikaRz LOVE *__* http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_384892&feature=iv&src_vid=gLoBjqHKG2E&v=gtWGpXVlXl4 18:55 artur99 how to host a lan server? 18:55 kaeza YouTube, what are u doin, YouTube, STAHP!! 18:55 KikaRz love that pudding 18:56 kaeza lol wut? 18:57 artur99 i cant use youtube 18:57 kaeza artur99: why? 18:57 artur99 because my internet conection is low 18:57 thexyz sfan5: of course because my botnet needs more PCs 18:57 KikaRz omg 18:57 thexyz have you tried, umm... reading ? 18:57 KikaRz why they left all ? 18:57 sfan5 yes 18:57 sfan5 @thexyz 18:57 KikaRz *.net *.split? 18:57 marktraceur KikaRz: Welcome to IRC, that was a netsplit 18:58 sfan5 :D 18:58 KikaRz netsplit = ? 18:58 OldCoder Drama! 18:58 KikaRz all in lan? 18:58 OldCoder Excitement! 18:58 KikaRz '-' 18:58 sfan5 .g netplit 18:58 MinetestBot sfan5: http://irc.netsplit.de/ 18:58 sfan5 .g netsplit 18:58 MinetestBot sfan5: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit 18:58 sfan5 KikaRz ^ 18:58 marktraceur KikaRz: One of the freenode servers was unable to connect to the rest, and those people were using the disconnected server. 18:58 thexyz sfan5: it's simply visitors counter 18:58 marktraceur It happens. 18:58 kaeza hey this minetestbot thing is AWESOME!! 18:58 sfan5 thexyz: i know 18:58 kaeza .g pr0n 18:58 KikaRz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Netsplit.png 18:58 MinetestBot kaeza: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pr0n 18:58 KikaRz oh god 18:59 KikaRz so many things 18:59 thexyz sfan5: then why were you asking? 18:59 marktraceur ++ 18:59 sfan5 thexyz: dunno, just wondering why there is a youtube similar link there 18:59 redcrab in lua a CRLF is "\n" ? 18:59 OldCoder Should be 18:59 sfan5 redcrab: yes 19:00 redcrab Thanks 19:00 kaeza someone kicked me 19:00 kaeza why? 19:00 marktraceur redcrab: s/lua/all modern programming languages/, yes 19:00 sfan5 read the kick msdg 19:00 jin_xi lol 19:00 sfan5 *msg 19:00 marktraceur kaeza: You googled "pr0n" with sfan5's internet connection. 19:00 OldCoder Bad move 19:00 sfan5 yup 19:00 kaeza sorry :) 19:00 sfan5 the :) is totally misplaced 19:01 Calinou cool, we can make sfan5 say anything :P 19:01 Calinou erm, google 19:01 sfan5 .... 19:01 OldCoder Don't go there 19:01 sfan5 Calinou: don't take this as an invitiation to do that ;9 19:01 sfan5 *;) 19:02 kaeza ummm 19:02 kaeza this?^ 19:02 sfan5 65MABJKV3: the fuck are you doing? 19:02 sfan5 kaeza: server recovered from netsplit 19:02 thexyz sfan5: in which way is it similar to youtube? 19:02 rubenwardy .wik User:Rubenwardy 19:03 MinetestBot "Welcome to Rubenwardy's page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User:Rubenwardy 19:03 rubenwardy .wik User:Calinou 19:03 65MABJKV3 sfan5: first, i connected to the splitted server. then, i nicked to xy_ and back to xy to change my nick ts to something newer 19:03 MinetestBot "Minetest player since July 2011, I also play Minecraft since November 2010." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User:Calinou 19:03 bulletrulz KikaRz, did u add me? 19:03 65MABJKV3 -> i get my irc UUID as nick when the net resyncs 19:03 bulletrulz .tw bulletrulz 19:03 kaeza .wik MOBF 19:03 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/MOBF 19:03 * OldCoder sighs 19:03 MinetestBot My parents go out and buy my sister a new ipod for chrismas and i dont get a USED PS3 its 100 fucking dollers less wow #WTF (@bulletrulz) 19:03 OldCoder artur99 is asking me... 19:03 bulletrulz lol 19:03 Calinou ipod... facepalm 19:04 OldCoder How to set up a LAN MT game 19:04 Calinou bulletrulz: consoles are useless 19:04 65MABJKV3 so, sfan5, it all is about getting a nick starting with a number. 19:04 Jordach two words, lets get rid of these damn feckin bots 19:04 kaeza Calinou: false 19:04 sfan5 .. 19:04 bulletrulz Calinou, i know right and i like the ps3 though 19:04 OldCoder Is there a simple way to determine LAN IP address under Windows? 19:04 artur99 :D 19:04 OldCoder Network properties? 19:04 Calinou OldCoder: get one computer's internal IP, start server on one computer, connect to internal IP using other computer 19:04 thexyz OldCoder: ipconfig? 19:04 Jordach look for a default gateway 19:04 kaeza ipconfig? 19:04 bulletrulz Jave27_, that was 8 ;P 19:04 marktraceur OldCoder: ipconfig /all or something ridiculous 19:04 OldCoder No... He is running Windows 19:04 Calinou you can start a server by going to advanced tab then putting no address 19:04 OldCoder Not Linux 19:04 Calinou yes 19:04 thexyz so, ipconfig 19:04 Calinou you can do that on windows 19:04 bulletrulz im running linux 19:04 OldCoder Ah! 19:04 OldCoder Thank you! 19:04 Calinou and ipconfig is for windows. 19:04 artur99 ok 19:04 Calinou ifconfig is for linux :P 19:05 kaeza ipconfig = Win, ifconfig = Linux 19:05 OldCoder artur99, did you see the above? 19:05 marktraceur Calinou: Most distros have deprecated ifconfig in favor of ip 19:05 OldCoder Use ipconfig for IP address 19:05 artur99 ok 19:05 marktraceur Calinou: `ip addr` will do roughly the same thing as `ifconfig` for you 19:05 artur99 Ipv4? 19:05 OldCoder And starting server is simple as explained above 19:05 OldCoder artur99, Yes 19:05 artur99 thanks 19:05 OldCoder artur99, You cannot send it to the outside world however. This is for internal use. 19:06 OldCoder If you wish to serve to the outside world you must learn port forwarding 19:06 OldCoder Let that wait for now 19:06 bulletrulz iim also getting a netbook for my brothers girlfriend but she used it before lol 19:06 OldCoder artur99, ^ 19:06 artur99 is working 19:06 artur99 thanks 19:06 kaeza wb john_minetest 19:07 khonkhortisan khonkhortisan has quit (Excess Flood) 19:07 khonkhortisan that was odd 19:07 kaeza why is everyone quitting because of Excess Flood? 19:07 Calinou that's my quit message 8) 19:07 OldCoder network issues 19:07 Calinou part message too 19:07 khonkhortisan I saw most of them with net split, only one other person with flood and one person with connection reset 19:08 kaeza first john_minetest and now khonkhortisan 19:08 OldCoder It will settle down 19:08 OldCoder How is everybody today? 19:08 khonkhortisan my tabs got pherentheses on them 19:08 marktraceur I'm seeing a lot of other excess flood messages in other channels, too 19:08 rubenwardy .wik food 19:08 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Food 19:08 rubenwardy .wik moreblocks 19:09 bulletrulz LOL 19:09 MinetestBot "Mods (short for modifications) are user-created modifications to the game in such a way that alters gameplay." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mods 19:09 bulletrulz .wik flood 19:09 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Flood 19:09 kaeza .wik Awesomesauce 19:09 rubenwardy .wik cretin 19:09 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Awesomesauce 19:09 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Cretin 19:09 kaeza .wik Awesomesauce(R)(TM) 19:09 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Awesomesauce(R)(TM) 19:09 bulletrulz .wik User:.bulletrulz 19:09 MinetestBot "User account '.bulletrulz' is not registered." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User:.bulletrulz 19:09 OldCoder Maybe we could let the bot rest for a while 19:09 khonkhortisan If you have nothing better to do, figure this out http://www.urticator.net/maze/ 19:10 bulletrulz OldCoder, noOOO!OOO!OO!O!OOO!O!OO!O!O!OOO!O!O!O!O!ok 19:10 OldCoder ? 19:10 kaeza khonkhortisan: G*d damt it 19:10 khonkhortisan hehe 19:10 khonkhortisan I've finished that maze before 19:11 kaeza Heck with my 50x glasses doing that is no good for my eyes 19:11 khonkhortisan aw... Some people can't see cross-eyed 3d 19:11 kaeza s/glasses/lens 19:11 artur99 if a have a blog, and i want to show the game to users, can i use the direct download link? 19:11 kaeza whatever 19:12 Calinou yes 19:12 kaeza yup 19:12 khonkhortisan if they want a different download, they can go to the game's site 19:12 artur99 aha 19:12 artur99 ok 19:12 Calinou he said he wants to point to the direct download link 19:13 artur99 this link: https://github.com/downloads/celeron55/minetest/minetest-0.4.3-win32.zip 19:13 Calinou yes, you can 19:13 OldCoder artur99, yes? 19:14 sfan5 artur99: if you want the latest package use this: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-dev-8a93581-win32.7z 19:14 rubenwardy .git minetest 19:14 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> is this better? 19:14 artur99 ok 19:14 rubenwardy should print the first line of descripts 19:14 sfan5 minetest_chan: [__kaeza__] is better 19:14 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> celeron55: BTW it's using a single connection as you suggested 19:14 sfan5 .server 19:14 MinetestBot TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'NoneType' objects (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/bot.py", line 162, in ) 19:15 Jordach .fail 19:16 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> 7h15 15 5w337! 19:17 sfan5 .sv 19:17 artur99 can i start a pvp lan server? 19:17 MinetestBot sfan5: Unknown Error 19:18 artur99 can i start a pvp lan server? 19:18 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> artur99 didn't you already? 19:18 bulletrulz .tw _mijyn_ 19:18 bulletrulz .porn 19:18 bulletrulz LOL 19:18 bulletrulz .g porn 19:18 bulletrulz XD 19:18 bulletrulz lol! 19:18 Jordach sfan5 - kill the bot please 19:18 sfan5 .sv 19:18 artur99 i dont know how 19:18 MinetestBot ExpatError: mismatched tag: line 4, column 5653 (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString) 19:18 bulletrulz sfan5, ill kill u 19:18 bulletrulz what cahnnel in minetest_cha on? 19:19 kaeza bulletrulz: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3905 19:19 artur99 chan, do u know how? 19:19 * OldCoder sighs 19:19 Jordach OldCoder - long day? 19:19 OldCoder bulletrulz, please 19:20 OldCoder Jordach, no. Things are going well. 19:20 OldCoder But the bot stuff needs to be fun or it goes 19:20 Jordach alrighty then 19:20 Jordach or just insert filters for cetain words 19:20 OldCoder Jordach, it is the responsibility of the users to not go overboard 19:21 * Jordach solves many programming problems in jordach's spare time 19:21 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> sorry guys, I knew pr0n had urbandictionary as first hit 19:21 Jordach points for leet speak 19:22 Jordach or, 1337 5p34k 19:22 bulletrulz oh 19:22 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> Jordach: f0r \/\/|-|47? 19:23 Jordach 741k1n9 11k3 7h15 19:23 Calinou 7h15! too early 19:24 iqualfragile me? 19:25 sfan5 .sv 19:25 KikaRz backl 19:25 MinetestBot ExpatError: mismatched tag: line 4, column 5653 (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString) 19:25 KikaRz .sv 19:25 MinetestBot ExpatError: mismatched tag: line 4, column 5653 (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString) 19:25 KikaRz expat? 19:25 KikaRz o.o 19:26 KikaRz bulletrulz 19:26 KikaRz send me your desura nick 19:27 NakedFury send me yours too 19:27 KikaRz nope 19:27 NakedFury bad man 19:27 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> sfan5 what document are you parsing? 19:28 bulletrulz KikaRz, bulletrulz129 19:28 KikaRz minetest_chan, whats your server? 19:28 sfan5 minetest_chan: the html server.minetest.ru 19:28 KikaRz or kaeza 19:28 KikaRz version? 19:28 kaeza local, sorry 19:28 kaeza 0.4.4-dev 19:28 sfan5 :( 19:28 sfan5 i want to join and test it 19:29 sfan5 .sv 19:29 MinetestBot ExpatError: no element found: line 4, column 5651 (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString) 19:29 KikaRz kaeza 19:29 KikaRz what version? 19:29 KikaRz 0.4.4 ? 19:29 sfan5 kaeza> 0.4.4-dev 19:29 kaeza IDK anything about port forwarding 19:29 KikaRz 1, 2 , 3 ? 19:29 sfan5 kaeza: try remobo 19:29 kaeza 0.4.4-dev 19:29 KikaRz kaeza 19:29 KikaRz ... 19:29 KikaRz not that 19:29 kaeza what? 19:29 KikaRz There are very much releases 19:30 KikaRz about 0.4.4 19:30 KikaRz in github 19:30 kaeza I think I built it about 3:00 AM today 19:30 sfan5 .sv 19:30 MinetestBot ExpatError: no element found: line 4, column 5653 (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString) 19:30 kaeza it's 17:00 here 19:30 redcrab hehe ... thanks to you guys , with your help on LUA script .. the current online player list of redcrab.suret.net 30401 is viewable at http://minetestbb.suret.net/online.txt ... dirty but it deserve to exist 19:30 kaeza guess yourself 19:30 kaeza redcrab: cool 19:30 sfan5 redcrab: nice 19:30 jin_xi redcrab: only 4 ppl 19:31 KikaRz hey, redcrab 19:31 KikaRz that version is? 19:32 kaeza sfan5: now DL'ing remobo 19:32 thexyz sfan5: can you please test your bot in some other channel? 19:32 sfan5 thexyz: ok 19:32 KikaRz http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUSE6yilNScIz1SLTNQvrXMw&feature=endscreen&v=XZOVbz7H66A&NR=1 19:33 KikaRz what channel it is? 19:33 KikaRz i want to test too! 19:33 kaeza KikaRz: I accidentally my monthly cap, so I can't youtube 19:33 KikaRz kaeza 19:33 KikaRz OS? 19:33 kaeza Ubuntu 12.04 19:34 kaeza +Windows 3.11 on VirtualBox :) 19:34 bulletrulz kaeza, xD 19:36 kaeza Well played Ubuntu. I download a DEB directly and you make me download it again thru App Center. Well Played. 19:36 KikaRz who can compile minetest in windows? 19:36 KikaRz with d3d support? 19:36 PilzAdam https://status.github.com/ 19:36 KikaRz i want 0.4.4 latest 19:36 Jordach trololololl, windows ftw 19:36 thexyz KikaRz: i can 19:36 KikaRz Can you make me that again? 19:36 KikaRz i want to play and test the 0.4.4 19:37 KikaRz init sucks. 19:37 thexyz fucking github is fucking semi-down 19:37 KikaRz just the middle things 19:37 thexyz KikaRz: ok 19:37 init wat 19:37 bulletrulz KikaRz, did u add me lol 19:37 Jordach kaeza - i like your mods, but i love hybrid dog's 19:37 Calinou kaeza: edit your /etc/hosts, add 127.0.0.1 youtube.com line 19:37 KikaRz Already not bulletrulz 19:37 Calinou problem solved 19:37 artur99 how to creeate a single player pvp game? 19:37 kaeza jordach: http://bitscloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/collegehumor-honest-desktop.jpg 19:37 Calinou artur99: erm, you want to fight yourself? :P 19:37 Calinou when you start a server pvp is enabled by default 19:38 KikaRz bulletrulz, send me nick again 19:38 KikaRz and tell me how to add 19:38 artur99 no, but if i creeate this, i can use it as a server map 19:38 thexyz john_minetest: have you already changed all your passwords? 19:39 klunk sorry for that 19:39 Calinou if someone connects with the same name as your name on a server you started with your client they'll ALWAYS have all privs 19:39 KikaRz People that got privs bug 19:39 KikaRz just do that 19:39 klunk say if I can do something 19:39 KikaRz add in minetest.conf- 19:39 OldCoder Calinou, it is the Zegaton world that I run 19:39 OldCoder Odd issue 19:39 KikaRz default_privs = 19:39 Calinou did you put any name in the "name field" of minetest.conf? 19:40 OldCoder http://minetest.org/zegaton-conf.txt 19:40 thexyz john_minetest: pastebin minetest.conf 19:40 marktraceur KikaRz: Are you capable of using longer, single messages? The past four you've typed could easily have been one. 19:40 OldCoder thexyz, Calinou See the link above 19:40 Calinou well then OldCoder will always have all privs 19:40 OldCoder That is the file 19:40 kaeza Calinou: what's the /etc/hosts line for? 19:40 KikaRz marktraceur, i write very fast 19:40 KikaRz thats the problem 19:40 Calinou kaeza: blocking youtube 8) 19:40 thexyz um.. again, what port is it? 19:40 KikaRz when i write very fast, i dont have time to think in what am i going to write 19:40 KikaRz This is a good portugal announce 19:40 KikaRz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0J8zPGfoe4&feature=2_2_1&list=PLDD96697C6463DBCE&index=0 19:41 marktraceur KikaRz: Then you should be able to write a longer message that completely expresses your thought in no time. Then you can type it all in one line and not fill up the channel logs 19:41 kaeza hmmm... can I add /dev/sda1 too? 19:41 kaeza It's my windows partition 19:41 kaeza LOL :) 19:41 KikaRz bulletrulz, add my brother (i use that acc): DracoPT 19:41 marktraceur Calinou: I tend to block youtube and facebook :P 19:41 thexyz OldCoder: i suggest you to merge https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/315 19:42 KikaRz thexyz, did you compiled? 19:42 kaeza my joke is bad, and i should feel bad 19:42 OldCoder thexyz, Will review shortly ty 19:43 thexyz OldCoder: tcpdump would be fine too 19:43 OldCoder thexyz, is that available as a diff patch? 19:43 KikaRz who's the nether creator mod? 19:44 thexyz OldCoder: what? 19:44 thexyz https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/315.diff 19:44 OldCoder OldCoder: i suggest you to merge https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/315 19:44 OldCoder R 19:44 KikaRz who is the nether mod creator? 19:44 kaeza john_minetest: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/x-is-bad-and-you-should-feel-bad 19:44 thexyz KikaRz: compiling right now 19:44 KikaRz Well... whatever is the nether mod creator... this is my answer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqELqRCnW6g 19:45 sfan5 thexyz: there seems to be an html error in your servers.minetest.ru this 19:45 sfan5 *thing 19:45 marktraceur KikaRz: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1710 lkjoel 19:45 sfan5 in < table> the with the headings starts but does not end correctly 19:45 KikaRz lkjoel, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqELqRCnW6g 19:45 marktraceur KikaRz: Learn to search for things, and your annoying level will go way down. 19:45 KikaRz I cant enter minetest.net 19:46 KikaRz internet problems 19:46 kaeza wut? 19:46 KikaRz this time are the internet problems 19:46 OldCoder thexyz, perfect and thank you! 19:46 kaeza oh thought site was down again 19:46 KikaRz kaeza, its my net problems 19:46 KikaRz all the sites with .net, are not working for me 19:46 kaeza KikaRz: ok 19:46 KikaRz but, i can use a proxy to enter 19:46 KikaRz but takes a bit time 19:47 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> DAMN! this thing is lagging 19:47 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> I should tweak the update interval 19:49 KikaRz Milk *-* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M3tmmP2DHc 19:49 PilzAdam sfan5, on wich channel is your bot? 19:49 sfan5 non 19:49 KikaRz thexyz, how much time left? 19:49 sfan5 *none 19:49 sfan5 yet 19:49 sfan5 PilzAdam: minidom doesn't want to parse the html 19:49 thexyz KikaRz: some 19:50 thexyz sfan5: thanks, fixed 19:50 kaeza sfan5 I'm on remobo 19:50 kaeza how do I add you to my buddies? 19:50 sfan5 theDrumm: thanks 19:50 sfan5 kaeza: add sfan5 19:50 kaeza K 19:50 kaeza done 19:51 kaeza it says "Pending" 19:51 thexyz KikaRz: uploading now 19:51 KikaRz :D 19:51 kaeza should I give you the address below the list? is this my "public" ip? 19:52 sfan5 yes 19:52 sfan5 but it only works for your buddys in remobo 19:52 kaeza 7.16.14.209 port 30000 19:53 kaeza don't expect a fast connection 19:53 KikaRz going to play 5 minutes Qbeh 19:53 KikaRz in Desura 19:53 bulletrulz KikaRz, add me 19:53 KikaRz I cant 19:53 KikaRz add you 19:53 KikaRz DracoPT 19:53 telek /me waves. 19:53 KikaRz its my brother's account 19:53 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> sfan5 are you on? 19:54 sfan5 wait 19:54 sfan5 minetest_chan: wait 19:54 thexyz KikaRz: http://ompldr.org/vZ2lmaQ/minetest-0.4.4-dev-minetest-ru-win32.zip 19:54 KikaRz thexyz 19:54 KikaRz if it updates, can you send me the updated one? 19:55 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> KikaRz: or learn to compile 19:55 artur99 what is the code for mesecon? 19:55 KikaRz I can't kaeza. 19:55 thexyz nice nickname, minetest-chan 19:55 KikaRz I know compiling 19:55 KikaRz it lags me. 19:55 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> ummm... lags? 19:56 marktraceur kaeza: We've had this discussion with her before, she's not capable of accurately describing her issue. 19:56 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> oh ok. nevermind 19:56 artur99 *witch is the code for mesecone 19:56 KikaRz A LOT OF ERRORS AND WARNINGS 19:56 marktraceur kaeza: She can't figure out how to paste the compile errors, so we are incapable of helping 19:56 KikaRz NO BIN FOLDER/Minetest.exe 19:57 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> sfan5 are you on? 19:57 minetest_chan hi guys 19:57 minetest_chan yes 19:57 Mika_R artur99, code? 19:57 KikaRz hi sfan5 19:57 artur99 for /give 19:57 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> BTW it's just a sandbox world for testing mods 19:58 minetest_chan :D 19:58 KikaRz thexyz 19:58 minetest_chan hey KikaRz! :) 19:58 KikaRz no needed to edit minetest.conf? or its in /.minetest/ ? 19:58 KikaRz well %appdata%/minetest 19:58 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> do you see the IRC chat? 19:58 KikaRz Yes. 19:59 thexyz KikaRz: i compiled it with run_in_place now 19:59 KikaRz that is? 19:59 KikaRz oh 19:59 KikaRz no %appdata% folder? 19:59 thexyz so all config files should be local 19:59 thexyz yep 19:59 KikaRz oh 19:59 KikaRz okey... 19:59 KikaRz :( 19:59 KikaRz i prefered in %appdata% 19:59 minetest_chan :D 19:59 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> can you see me sfan5? 19:59 minetest_chan yes 19:59 minetest_chan you're an unknown object 20:00 minetest_chan i haven't updated to 0.4.4-dev 20:00 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> what MT version do you have? 20:00 minetest_chan 0.4.3 20:00 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> it's that then 20:00 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> I have 0.4.4 20:00 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> according to celeron55 there are some problems in the protocol 20:01 Muadtralk is this a bot? 20:01 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> Muadtralk: what? 20:01 marktraceur Muadtralk: It's a tie-in to a world chat 20:01 Muadtralk which world? 20:01 kaeza Muadtralk: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3905 20:01 minetest_chan meoq 20:01 minetest_chan *meow 20:01 KikaRz *mewo 20:01 marktraceur Muadtralk: kaeza and sfan5 are in a minetest world that has a mod tying it to the IRC 20:02 sfan5 thats right 20:02 KikaRz server? 20:02 KikaRz server.minetest.ru ? 20:02 sfan5 no 20:02 kaeza local 20:02 sfan5 <kaeza> 7.16.14.209 port 30000 20:02 kaeza errrm 20:02 kaeza ^ 20:02 sfan5 you need remobo for that 20:02 sfan5 and kaeza must add you 20:03 KikaRz no thanks 20:03 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> sfan5 is it a bit laggy? 20:03 KikaRz thexyz, you know aserver? 20:03 Muadtralk it doesnt seem to be practical 20:03 minetest_chan it lags a bit 20:03 KikaRz if in USA lags a bit. 20:03 KikaRz In Europe lags A LOT 20:04 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> I'm in south america 20:04 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> Uruguay 20:04 KikaRz cool 20:04 minetest_chan i'm in germany 20:04 KikaRz VanessaE server is better 20:04 KikaRz I'm in Portugal 20:04 KikaRz im in vanessae server 20:05 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> sfan5 i'll restart the server to use the real world ok? 20:05 minetest_chan ok 20:05 minetest_chan <__kaeza__> errrm... other world 20:05 minetest_chan *** __kaeza__ left the game 20:05 KikaRz lol 20:05 Muadtralk is their any way to filter the world chat from the IRC? 20:05 kaeza WOW! player leaving works too! 20:05 marktraceur Muadtralk: Ignore minetest_chan, I guess 20:06 kaeza sorry guys 20:06 Muadtralk because i can see large amounts of channel spam coming from the minetest_chan soon enough 20:06 kaeza I'll use another channel 20:06 sfan5 thats good 20:06 marktraceur Yeah, kaeza, it would be awesome if you could host a different channel. 20:06 Muadtralk i mean a way to make it conversable 20:06 Jordach actually, cant we have a server channel like #redcrab30012 20:06 kaeza sorry if I flooded 20:06 Muadtralk like you can say things in the world that dont appear in the minetest channel 20:06 * kaeza is really sorry 20:06 Jordach (depending on a server name) 20:07 marktraceur It might be better to have a dedicated minetest IRC network.... 20:07 thexyz kaeza: how about renaming your bot to minetest-tan (instead of minetest-chan)? 20:07 sfan5 ^ I agree 20:07 kaeza Jordach: how do you get the current IP/host from lua? 20:07 thexyz see, sfan5 agrees 20:08 Jordach (feckin' japanese shizzle) 20:08 kaeza the "chan" is for "channel", not for "miss" or something like that in Jap 20:09 Muadtralk possibly a setting to prevent the worlds chat from showing up in the IRC unless a message is typed thats directed at the channel? 20:11 sfan5 good idea 20:11 kaeza Muadtralk: I was thinking about that, but c55 downed the idea 20:11 kaeza that's an up 20:11 thexyz Muadtralk: who would use that? 20:11 kaeza I want to know what do you think this mod may need 20:11 RBA_AFK use #worldofminetest of freenode for all the servers just 20:11 RBA_AFK (example) 20:11 Muadtralk its simple really just a setting 20:11 kaeza let's flood #minecraft HARHARHAR 20:11 Muadtralk in case you have an active server thats full of total shite in the chat 20:12 kaeza sfan5: it's up 20:12 Jordach Muadtralk - try making your own server topic 20:12 KikaRz 24.181.193.82:30000 20:12 Jordach (like #sdzensworld) 20:12 KikaRz Server by VanessaE 20:12 kaeza I connected it to #minetest-irc-testing 20:13 Muadtralk I am saying that way one could converse with the #minetest channel 20:13 Muadtralk without spamming it 20:13 Muadtralk or one could spectate 20:13 artur99 witch is the difference between 0.4.3 and 0.4.4? 20:13 KikaRz 3d players 20:13 RealBadAngel 3d models 20:13 KikaRz in 0.4.4 20:13 KikaRz 2d players in 0.4.3 20:13 kaeza Muadtralk: good idea 20:13 Muadtralk player attachment code 20:13 telek So it's in the latest dev version? 20:14 kaeza maybe a /sendtoirc {on|off} command 20:14 sfan5 kaeza: i'll update my minetest first 20:14 Muadtralk yes 20:14 kaeza sfan5: k 20:14 KikaRz kaeza 20:14 KikaRz how remobo works? 20:14 KikaRz it enters in conflict with hamachi? 20:15 kaeza Muadtralk: c55 suggested that making various connections to the same IRC server is bad 20:15 Muadtralk i know 20:15 kaeza KikaRz: ask sfan5 20:15 Muadtralk thats not what I was suggesting 20:15 sfan5 KikaRz: hamachi uses 5.0.0.0/8 20:15 Muadtralk it would be a setting for the whole server 20:15 KikaRz wrong 20:15 sfan5 remobo uses 7.0.0.0/8 20:16 KikaRz it uses 25.0.0.0 20:16 Muadtralk not for individual players 20:16 Muadtralk i caught the multiple client bad part 20:17 KikaRz sfan5, hi there. let me tell one thing to you... 20:17 * KikaRz whispers sfan5... 20:17 KikaRz sfan5 (WHISPERING): Hi :D 20:18 sfan5 :D 20:18 sfan5 celeron55: try .sv 20:18 marktraceur I love that you said WHISPERING in all caps. 20:18 KikaRz .sv 20:18 thexyz .sv 20:18 MinetestBot KikaRz: glomie's server | 94.23.33.108:30000 up (99.320%) 20:18 MinetestBot thexyz: PlanetMinetest Creative Server | planetminetest.com:30000 down 20:18 KikaRz glomie's ? 20:18 KikaRz .sv 20:19 MinetestBot KikaRz: cosarara97's server | cosarara97.cu.cc:30000 up (72.433%) 20:19 KikaRz cosarara97... 20:19 sfan5 .sv 20:19 sfan5 .sv 20:19 KikaRz let me see one more one 20:19 KikaRz .sv 20:19 KikaRz .sv 20:19 MinetestBot sfan5: cosarara97's server | cosarara97.cu.cc:30000 up (72.433%) 20:19 MinetestBot sfan5: Steinheim French|English server | minetest-cdk.servegame.com:30000 up (97.043%) 20:19 MinetestBot KikaRz: Zenoheld the Backstab server | minetest.freedns.in:30000 down 20:19 MinetestBot KikaRz: Redcrab's server : for serious builder | redcrab.suret.net:30401 up (95.692%) 20:19 thexyz oh, nice 20:19 Jordach Muadtralk - your serv's down, fix it 20:19 Muadtralk whaty address? 20:19 sfan5 .sv 20:19 sfan5 .sv 20:20 Muadtralk what* 20:20 MinetestBot sfan5: Calinou's Server | calin.sytes.net:30000 up (91.244%) 20:20 MinetestBot sfan5: Jordach's Pixel Art | redcrab.suret.net:30402 up (95.977%) 20:20 Muadtralk what was that? 20:20 sfan5 what? 20:20 Jordach sfan5: Jordach's Pixel Art | redcrab.suret.net:30402 up (95.977%) thexyz - thats a world that i have, but dont use 20:20 Mika_R kikarz, glomie's server is pretty bad shape last time i was there 20:20 KikaRz kaeza 20:20 KikaRz your nick? 20:20 Muadtralk thexyz doesnt care :P 20:20 kaeza guess :) 20:20 Muadtralk my address changed ages ago 20:21 KikaRz pending... 20:21 Muadtralk it still lists the broken one 20:21 sfan5 .sv 20:21 sfan5 .sv 20:21 sfan5 .sv 20:21 KikaRz kaeza, im DarkDracoon 20:21 MinetestBot sfan5: glomie's server | 94.23.33.108:30000 up (99.320%) 20:21 MinetestBot sfan5: D-L-K Networks GameServer | game.d-l-k.net:30000 up (99.835%) 20:21 MinetestBot sfan5: AviActu Global Minetest Server (0.4.3) | aviactu.info:30000 up (95.763%) 20:21 thexyz .sv 20:21 MinetestBot thexyz: Unknown Error 20:21 KikaRz .sv 20:21 KikaRz .sv 20:21 KikaRz .sv 20:21 KikaRz .sv 20:21 thexyz whyy 20:21 MinetestBot KikaRz: Unknown Error 20:21 MinetestBot KikaRz: Unknown Error 20:21 telek What does: 'ServerEnv: Trying to store id=5461 statically but block (0,-1,2) already contains 49 (over 49) objects. Forcing delete.' Mean? 20:21 Jordach .sv]# 20:21 MinetestBot KikaRz: Unknown Error 20:21 MinetestBot KikaRz: Unknown Error 20:21 KikaRz LOL 20:21 Jordach .sv 20:21 MinetestBot Jordach: Globis server | 176.31.175.144:30000 down 20:21 KikaRz .s 20:21 KikaRz .sv 20:21 KikaRz .sv 20:21 thexyz why didn't it shut down? 20:21 KikaRz .sv 20:21 MinetestBot KikaRz: M13's Server (0.4.3) | m13.servegame.com:30001 down 20:21 MinetestBot KikaRz: dise's server [0.4.3] | dise-minetest.no-ip.org:30000 up (84.546%) 20:21 MinetestBot KikaRz: cosarara97's server | cosarara97.cu.cc:30000 up (72.434%) 20:21 Muadtralk it means your client is outdated 20:22 KikaRz m13 is off! O_O' 20:22 Muadtralk compile a new one 20:22 KikaRz GOING TO TURN IT ON! 20:23 KikaRz OldCoder, the m13's server is off maybe because m13 didnt knew that server is in other user account 20:23 artur99 in 044 how to set home? 20:23 KikaRz .sv m13 20:23 telek Whoa github is down? 20:24 KikaRz .sv 20:24 OmegaPhil githubs up here 20:24 KikaRz .sv 20:24 artur99 in 044 how to set home? 20:24 thexyz telek: https://status.github.com/ 20:24 OmegaPhil the blog is down though 20:24 artur99 in 044 how to set home? 20:25 telek thexyz: Whee. The fun part is it worked just a minute ago :D 20:25 artur99 in 0.4.4 how to set home? 20:25 sfan5 .sv 20:25 sfan5 .sv 20:25 sfan5 .sv 20:25 MinetestBot sfan5: cosarara97's server | cosarara97.cu.cc:30000 up (72.436%) 20:25 sfan5 .sv 20:25 MinetestBot sfan5: Zenoheld the Backstab server | minetest.freedns.in:30000 down 20:25 MinetestBot sfan5: D-L-K Networks GameServer | game.d-l-k.net:30000 up (99.835%) 20:25 MinetestBot sfan5: Redcrab's Minetest Server 0.3.1 | redcrab.suret.net:30031 up (94.836%) 20:25 sfan5 it works :) 20:25 artur99 in 0.4.4 how to set home? 20:26 sfan5 you can't without a mo 20:26 sfan5 *mod 20:26 RealBadAngel get some cobble, wood, glass 20:26 RealBadAngel and build one 20:26 artur99 in 0.4.4 how to set home? 20:26 sfan5 RealBadAngel: 100 points for the best answer 20:27 RealBadAngel hehe 20:27 artur99 aaa 20:27 artur99 how? 20:27 KikaRz Using SetHome mod 20:27 KikaRz -.- 20:27 OldCoder Hi 20:27 KikaRz 100 points for me 20:27 artur99 no, how to set home pozition 20:27 OldCoder KikaRz, O.K. 20:27 artur99 ? 20:27 RealBadAngel artur99, wait for Unified Inventory mod to be released 20:27 KikaRz Yes 20:27 KikaRz setHome or Unified Inventory 20:28 artur99 this when? 20:28 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/unified_inventory.png 20:28 sfan5 .sv 20:28 MinetestBot sfan5: Steinheim French|English server | minetest-cdk.servegame.com:30000 up (97.044%) 20:28 RealBadAngel its gonna be released this weekend i think 20:28 OmegaPhil Out of interest, does popular functionality from mods make its way into minetest proper? 20:29 artur99 aaa 20:29 artur99 ok 20:29 OmegaPhil Or is it headed for lots of fragmentation 20:29 artur99 and if i want to have that, must i download something? 20:30 artur99 ? 20:30 RealBadAngel artur99, with this mod functionality i believe nobody will be using default creative mod anymore 20:31 artur99 no, but i want that mod for home setting 20:31 RealBadAngel default creative is stonage 20:31 Jordach and is s#17 20:32 artur99 go to sleep 20:32 artur99 bye 20:33 NakedFury will that new inventory have different permissions to use it? normal player permission and special admin or moderator permissions for the creative part? 20:34 KikaRz .sv 20:34 rubenwardy http://www.osqa.net/ 20:34 KikaRz .sv m13 20:34 MinetestBot KikaRz: Zenoheld the Backstab server | minetest.freedns.in:30000 down 20:34 MinetestBot KikaRz: Mrtux's Minetest server | minetest.org:30001 down 20:34 KikaRz .sv m13 20:34 MinetestBot KikaRz: D-L-K Networks GameServer | game.d-l-k.net:30000 up (99.835%) 20:35 KikaRz .sv m13 20:35 MinetestBot KikaRz: AviActu Global Minetest Server (0.4.3) | aviactu.info:30000 up (95.765%) 20:35 KikaRz wanted to see my server 20:35 sfan5 KikaRz: sv doesn't take any arguments 20:35 rubenwardy (8:34:51 PM) rubenwardy: http://www.osqa.net/ 20:35 rubenwardy Would be great for minetest 20:35 KikaRz Preferable if we do that in query 20:36 Taoki redcrab: When is your server getting an update? 20:36 sfan5 .ngc test 20:36 MinetestBot test: 2,940,000,000 20:36 sfan5 .gc test 20:36 MinetestBot test: 272,000,000 / 2,940,000,000 20:36 KikaRz My server now works 20:36 KikaRz KikaRz: M13's Server (0.4.3) | m13.servegame.com:30001 up (56.167%) 20:37 rubenwardy bye 20:37 sfan5 .search test 20:37 KikaRz who got a 0.4.4 server? 20:37 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.test.com/ (g, b, d) 20:37 KikaRz .search youtube 20:37 MinetestBot KikaRz: http://www.youtube.com/ (g, b), https://www.youtube.com/ (d) 20:38 KikaRz .search red**** 20:38 KikaRz xd 20:38 KikaRz kidding 20:38 MinetestBot KikaRz: http://www.red.com/ (g), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red (b), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red (d) 20:38 KikaRz can i put the rest? 20:38 KikaRz the *tube ? 20:38 KikaRz '-' 20:38 sfan5 KikaRz: no 20:38 KikaRz .search redtu 20:38 KikaRz xd 20:38 MinetestBot KikaRz: http://www.facebook.com/redtu.ibu (g), http://www.redtube.com/ (b), https://www.youtube.com/user/RedTu (d) 20:38 KikaRz LOOOL 20:39 Jordach sfan5 - whats the latest git 20:39 Jordach (for windows) 20:39 thexyz nah 20:39 thexyz the MinetestBot was the one who posted the link 20:39 Jordach banhammer away 20:39 sfan5 Jordach: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-dev-8a93581-win32.7z 20:39 KikaRz Remove your bot. 20:39 Jordach thank ypou 20:39 KikaRz Thats the solution 20:39 Jordach you 20:39 KikaRz STOP! 20:39 KikaRz STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!11 20:39 OldCoder Wait 20:39 OldCoder Deescalate 20:39 OldCoder What's the dispute? 20:40 PilzAdam wtf is wrong with this channel? 20:40 KikaRz he's kicking me because his bot its stupid 20:40 OldCoder PilzAdam, it's fine 20:40 KikaRz he's testing his bot here 20:40 OldCoder KikaRz, relax 20:40 KikaRz not in a private channel 20:40 * OldCoder scrolls up 20:40 * VanessaE peeks in 20:40 KikaRz VanessaE! 20:40 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi 20:40 PilzAdam hi VanessaE 20:40 VanessaE um, did I just walk into a hornets' nest? 20:40 Muadtralk ello 20:40 KikaRz I got the 0.4.4 updated by thexyz 20:40 telek Yes 20:40 Jordach probably 20:40 Muadtralk yes you did 20:40 OldCoder KikaRz, sfan5 maybe both sides are half right 20:40 OldCoder Could the bot be tested elsewhere? 20:40 VanessaE heh 20:41 KikaRz VanessaE 20:41 telek How about #minetestbot? :D 20:41 sfan5 the bot is not in testing stage 20:41 PilzAdam VanessaE, today is bot test day 20:41 KikaRz can you test with me the carts + 3d players + other mods with me? 20:41 sfan5 but KikaRz wanted to google redtube with it 20:41 VanessaE so I can see (skimmed the backlog) 20:41 OldCoder VanessaE, advice? 20:41 KikaRz was to test. 20:41 Jordach BANHAMER! 20:41 OldCoder If bots are going to provoke fights maybe they are not a good idea 20:42 kaeza hey V 20:42 VanessaE KikaRz: no, not at present -- until that attachment bug is fixed (or at least an attempt has been made), testing carts/3d players will not produce valid results. 20:42 KikaRz VanessaE 20:42 KikaRz i wanted to play with you :( 20:42 telek VanessaE: The one in irrlicht? 20:42 kaeza VanessaE: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3905 20:42 kaeza your input is very much appreciated 20:43 bulletrulz new post on bulletrulz.webs.com 20:43 bulletrulz .tw bulletrulz 20:43 KikaRz .tw bulletrulz 20:43 kaeza bot died :( 20:43 sfan5 the bot is offline 20:43 KikaRz YAAAAAY 20:43 KikaRz :D 20:43 bulletrulz it no WORK! 20:43 NakedFury please stop with the bot, its just gonna piss people off 20:43 sfan5 bulletrulz: go thank KikaRz 20:43 NakedFury yes 20:43 VanessaE telek: I don't know if it's irrlicht or not, but it's one where players sometimes attach to each other, or to entities other than carts (such as torch smoke), or entities attach themselves to the player when they shouldn't (carts, a rainbow sprite). 20:43 KikaRz bot offline :D 20:43 bulletrulz fuck u KikaRz 20:43 bulletrulz lol 20:43 KikaRz Your ass :D 20:44 telek Watch the language? 20:44 KikaRz bulletrulz started. 20:44 bulletrulz telek, NO! 20:44 * OldCoder sighs again 20:44 OldCoder D: 20:44 OldCoder VanessaE, what's the mute flag? 20:44 VanessaE +q 20:45 telek OC: Is that the same bug as that forum link, about it using the prior frame's data for attachment? 20:45 kaeza brb 20:45 KikaRz +q 20:45 PilzAdam things are getting better: https://status.github.com/ 20:45 OldCoder I C 20:45 OldCoder telek, Context? ty 20:45 KikaRz Bulletrulz, 20:45 KikaRz Minetest 0.4.4 Now In De YES!!!!!!!!! 20:45 KikaRz Click here to edit text. 20:45 KikaRz ... 20:45 OldCoder Next f*ck your a** gets a mute 20:45 VanessaE kaeza: re: the forum topic, I like it. 20:46 KikaRz No commands. 20:46 KikaRz *comments 20:46 PilzAdam VanessaE, i have over 1000 forum posts now 20:46 * VanessaE considers rattling off a string of expletives just to irritate OldCoder :) 20:47 VanessaE PilzAdam: 798 for me 20:47 telek OldCoder: The issue with attachments being set but deferred until the next frame (causing all the weirdness when trying to attach objects together and they instead being displayed in unforseen configurations) 20:47 VanessaE I gotta get busy blabbering more :-) 20:47 TForsman PilzAdam: 3d players, mod. is it gone or is it git page that are having issues? 20:47 VanessaE also, did everyone see my Plantlife mod release? 20:47 sfan5 .sv 20:47 KikaRz NOOO 20:47 MinetestBot sfan5: Redcrab's server 0.4 dev20120106-1 | redcrab.suret.net:30000 up (86.328%) 20:47 KikaRz KICK IT! 20:47 KikaRz KICK IT! 20:47 sfan5 .g hello 20:47 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.helloonline.com/ 20:47 * Jordach teabaga with 2500+ posts 20:47 Jordach -a+s 20:47 PilzAdam TForsman, github has some problems currently 20:47 * sfan5 with almost 2000 posts 20:47 KikaRz everyone abuses out of that bot. 20:47 KikaRz OldCOder. 20:47 kaeza back 20:48 TForsman PilzAdam: thanks 20:48 sfan5 KikaRz: no 20:48 KikaRz VanessaE, can i test it? 20:48 sfan5 i made it save 20:48 kaeza VanessaE: care to test it? 20:48 KikaRz sfan5, GO TO ANOTHER IRC CHANNEL TO TEST YOUR BOT! 20:48 VanessaE KikaRz: if you wanna sign onto the server, go ahead. 20:48 KikaRz ip 20:48 sfan5 KikaRz: I'M NOT TESTING IT, ITS COMPLETE 20:48 VanessaE kaeza: not if it requires a source code patch 20:48 KikaRz sfan5, WHATEVER! 20:48 * kaeza sucks with 96 posts 20:48 kaeza slow 20:48 VanessaE KikaRz: 24.181.193.82 port 30000 20:49 * KikaRz is recent baby. 6/9 posts. 20:49 PilzAdam KikaRz, the only one who abuses the bot is you by yelling at the creator 20:49 sfan5 ^ right 20:49 KikaRz PilzAdam, i didnt talked to you 20:49 KikaRz sfan5, go to another channel. 20:49 PilzAdam but I talked to you 20:49 kaeza VanessaE: right out of the box under ubuntu 20:49 VanessaE kaeza: I see you and bulletrulz were having some...discussions last night on the server :D 20:49 KikaRz abusing. 20:49 KikaRz -.- 20:49 VanessaE kaeza: pull request it against git master so someone can merge your changes 20:50 kaeza yeah, I lol'd with that guy :D 20:50 VanessaE speak of the devil. 20:50 sfan5 celeron55: try .sv 20:50 kaeza VanessaE: NO! LISTEN! 20:50 thexyz seriously, sfan5, stop kicking him for nothing 20:50 KikaRz thexyz, *HER 20:50 kaeza It's a self contained mod 20:50 thexyz oops, sorry 20:50 KikaRz VanessaE, 0.4.4 ? 20:50 * OldCoder looked away for just a minute 20:50 sfan5 .... 20:51 OldCoder Ops need to be above getting involved personally 20:51 VanessaE kaeza: you said it required some C... so a patch to the engine, or some kind of standalone tool? 20:51 PilzAdam KikaRz, 0.4.4 is actually 0.4.4-dev 20:51 KikaRz the same! 20:51 kaeza native lib loaded from lua 20:51 KikaRz future 0.4.4 -.-' 20:51 VanessaE KikaRz: 0.4.4-dev git commit ab45133ab[...] or newer. 20:51 KikaRz VanessaE, Client: Cannot create image from data of file "player_KikaRz.png" 20:52 VanessaE (I see a few new things have been added since that one. Anything worth updating for?) 20:52 VanessaE KikaRz: sign off. I'll checkit. 20:52 sfan5 VanessaE: new API hook 20:52 KikaRz but i can enter the server. 20:52 kaeza VanessaE: FYI: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-package.loaders 20:53 KikaRz VanessaE, tell me when to go in 20:53 sfan5 .sv 20:53 MinetestBot sfan5: Redcrab's server 0.4 dev20120106-1 | redcrab.suret.net:30000 up (86.328%) 20:53 VanessaE KikaRz: I must have installed the wrong file. Please give me the URL again. 20:53 KikaRz wait 20:53 KikaRz stupid remobo 20:53 VanessaE sfan5: saw that. Nothing that affects me :-) 20:54 PilzAdam VanessaE, move it: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3905 20:54 sfan5 moved! 20:55 kaeza WOW I CAN HAZ MOD RELEASES TOPIC!!! 20:55 KikaRz Vanessa 20:55 KikaRz skinkikamt = 3D one 20:55 NakedFury is it 0.4.5 now? 20:55 KikaRz player and player_back = 2 20:55 KikaRz *2d 20:55 sfan5 NakedFury: 0.4.5? 20:55 KikaRz No NakedFury 20:55 NakedFury everyone was talking about a new update today 20:55 sfan5 its 0.4.4-dev 20:56 sfan5 not 0.4.5 20:56 KikaRz celeron55, c55.me/blog is offline 20:56 KikaRz The connection has timed out 20:56 VanessaE KikaRz: installed. server restarted. 20:56 KikaRz The connection has timed out 20:56 KikaRz 3d or 2d? 20:56 VanessaE you may sign in. 20:56 VanessaE 3d of course. 20:56 PilzAdam c55.me runs on c55's PC so its not very stable 20:56 sfan5 .tw __MiJyn__ 20:56 MinetestBot Windows blue: "A major release of Windows every 12 months... Blue ... will be very cheap — or possibly even free"... (@__MiJyn__) 20:57 PilzAdam .tw github 20:57 kaeza sfan5, wht r u doin, sfan5, STAHP! 20:57 MinetestBot Service is degraded while we work through some network and fileserver issues - https://status.github.com/ (@github) 20:57 KikaRz .tw Microsoft 20:57 MinetestBot We chose winner one! / Now, on to the second prize / Tweet us your haiku! Use #msftholiday to enter: http://on.fb.me/ShMfZe (@Microsoft) 20:57 kaeza J/K 20:57 KikaRz VanessaE 20:57 KikaRz Everytime appears: 20:57 VanessaE hm? 20:57 KikaRz Could not open file of texture: character.png 20:57 KikaRz must put in minetest folder? 20:58 KikaRz if yes, where? 20:58 VanessaE I thought I did.. 20:58 VanessaE OH you mean for you locally? you don't need it. 20:58 VanessaE it's server-side. 20:58 KikaRz ok 20:58 kaeza VanessaE: can I come in? 20:58 VanessaE kaeza: of course. 20:58 kaeza sorry that sounds bad somehow 20:58 PilzAdam lol 20:59 VanessaE KikaRz: your skin looks fine now. I see it. 20:59 sfan5 bulletrulz: the bot is there 20:59 PilzAdam sfan5, what is .sv? 21:00 kaeza PilzAdam: it's a piece of awesomeness 21:00 KikaRz VanessAE? 21:01 KikaRz *VanessaE? 21:01 sfan5 PilzAdam: it picks a random server from servers.minetest.ru and displays it in IRC 21:02 PilzAdam can you specify the server? 21:02 sfan5 no 21:02 sfan5 it picks a random 21:02 sfan5 +one 21:02 sfan5 try it 21:02 sfan5 .sv 21:02 MinetestBot sfan5: LPGC Minetest Server | games.libreplanet.org:30000 up (99.930%) 21:03 VanessaE KikaRz: yes? 21:03 KikaRz Omg , so much lag 21:04 VanessaE sorry. 21:07 marktraceur Hey, someone indexed the LPGC server 21:07 marktraceur Cool 21:07 thexyz "someone" 21:07 sfan5 go thank thexyz 21:07 sfan5 s/go thank/go, thank/ 21:09 Mika_R Anyone here got experience of burning iso with ubuntu, it seems to have stalled at "creating image checksum" 21:10 celeron55 our non-free server indexing and monitoring service! 21:10 * celeron55 sees thexyz sucking all freedom out of marktraceur 21:11 OldCoder Heh 21:11 celeron55 it's "free as in 'free to not use'" 21:11 marktraceur celeron55: :) I don't have any say over who links to the server, clearly :P 21:12 sfan5 .sv 21:12 MinetestBot sfan5: glomie's server | 94.23.33.108:30000 up (99.320%) 21:13 PilzAdam .tw github 21:13 MinetestBot Service is degraded while we work through some network and fileserver issues - https://status.github.com/ (@github) 21:13 marktraceur thexyz: You should probably include instructions for each server and/or the IRC channel 21:13 * OldCoder needs a larger display to watch all his channels 21:14 thexyz marktraceur: what instructions? 21:14 Muadtralk thexyz if you could update my server at http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=796 21:14 marktraceur thexyz: For example, I have people ask for interact in IRC. 21:14 Muadtralk servers.minetest.ru is so terribly out of date 21:14 thexyz Muadtralk: how so? 21:15 Muadtralk look at the forum link 21:15 sfan5 g2g, don't forget to have fun with MinetestBot 21:15 thexyz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2239 21:15 marktraceur thexyz: Also if you think of it, my server at marktraceur.info is no longer up 21:15 Muadtralk then look at the title and address of zenoheld vs notobama land 21:16 thexyz lol, have fun 21:17 thexyz Muadtralk: do you think this is my fault? he didn't post request to update his host 21:17 thexyz or, well, you didn't post it 21:17 thexyz whatever 21:18 sdzen 2012-11-04 21:03:12 One should probably put my emergency address in there minetest.sytes.net:30000 for the backstab server 21:18 sdzen comment number 96 21:18 sdzen for the main reason that the main one had gone down 21:19 thexyz hm.. sorry then 21:19 thexyz i'll add it now 21:19 sdzen and even now i am making another request on the forum page for the new main link.... 21:20 sdzen http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=54430#p54430 21:20 thexyz ok, i'll reset stat for it 21:21 sdzen ever so sorry if I have been a bother while trying to convey this issue 21:22 sfan5[iPod] .sv 21:22 MinetestBot AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'data' (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/server.py", line 26, in read_server) 21:23 sfan5[iPod] wtf? 21:23 sfan5[iPod] .sv 21:23 MinetestBot sfan5[iPod]: M13's Server (0.4.3) | m13.servegame.com:30001 up (56.246%) 21:23 sfan5[iPod] good, it works 21:24 Muadtralk .sv 21:24 MinetestBot Muadtralk: NotObamaLand | notobama.freedns.mobi:30000 up (100.000%) 21:24 Muadtralk hmmmm 21:24 Muadtralk a fine bot 21:25 Muadtralk now if only it could be taught not to give errors 21:25 marktraceur sfan5[iPod]: How does it quackulate the uptime? 21:25 sfan5[iPod] i could add some try ... catch statements 21:26 sfan5[iPod] marktraceur: it simply reads the data from status.minetest.ru 21:26 sfan5[iPod] nothing is calculated 21:26 marktraceur 403 forbidden? 21:26 sfan5[iPod] wait 21:26 sfan5[iPod] servers.minetest.ru 21:26 sfan5[iPod] my fault 21:31 KikaRz VanessaE? 21:33 VanessaE yes? 21:35 KikaRz .c 45+3 21:35 MinetestBot 48 21:35 KikaRz not that 21:35 KikaRz .c 45+376 21:35 MinetestBot 421 21:35 KikaRz thxs. 21:35 kaeza .wik kaeza 21:35 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Kaeza 21:35 KikaRz .c 21:35 MinetestBot KikaRz: Nothing to calculate. 21:35 KikaRz ups 21:35 KikaRz .c 9/5*644 21:35 MinetestBot 1 159.2 21:35 telek Is there an scripted way to determine if 2d or 3d avatars are being used? 21:35 telek an=any 21:35 OldCoder Should be... 21:36 OldCoder Different mechanisms entirely 21:36 OldCoder It will be an option setting I assume 21:36 OldCoder Could you simply check the setting? 21:36 OldCoder Or is the plan to select one at compile time? 21:37 VanessaE KikaRz, kaeza: done 21:37 KikaRz wait 21:37 KikaRz access violation 21:37 kaeza ok 21:38 KikaRz sad. 21:38 telek Dunno. I still have the 2d avatar skin mod installed and just noticed it was either applying it to the 3d model. So I was thinking at the very least having checks for either protocol version or if some method was provided, 2d/3d avatars would allow having 3 skins (2d f, 2d b, and 3d uvmap) 21:38 kaeza KikaRz: at exit? 21:38 KikaRz No 21:38 KikaRz at entering 21:39 kaeza well, crashes at exit happen to me on linux 21:39 kaeza IDK at enter 21:39 kaeza what version are you using? 21:39 KikaRz VanessaE 21:39 KikaRz IP plz 21:40 KikaRz not needed 21:40 KikaRz : 24.181.193.82 21:40 VanessaE KikaRz: 24.181.193.82 port 30000 21:41 telek Is there a free software licensed uvmap yet BTW? 21:41 kaeza KikaRz: @KIKARZ? 21:41 KikaRz buy me a computer to get faster 21:42 thexyz .c 1/0 21:42 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 21:42 KikaRz a number divided by 0 21:42 KikaRz its 0 21:42 KikaRz or null. 21:42 KikaRz 1/2 21:42 kaeza OH SHI--- 21:43 kaeza KikaRz: wrong 21:43 thexyz .c 0/0 21:43 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 21:43 KikaRz No number can be divided by 0 21:43 thexyz .c sqrt(-1) 21:43 MinetestBot i 21:43 thexyz aww! 21:43 KikaRz .c sqrt(5) 21:43 MinetestBot 2.23606798 21:43 KikaRz lol 21:43 kaeza a number divided between zero is an error 21:43 KikaRz .c sqrt(634538953) 21:43 MinetestBot 25 190.0566 21:43 KikaRz 634/-1 21:43 kaeza by 21:43 KikaRz 634/(-1) 21:43 kaeza by* 21:43 PilzAdam .c sqrt(-10) 21:43 MinetestBot 3.16227766 i 21:43 OldCoder Forgot .c 21:43 KikaRz 634/(-5) 21:43 KikaRz ah 21:44 KikaRz .c 634/(-5) 21:44 MinetestBot -126.8 21:44 marktraceur Oh my gods. 21:44 KikaRz wrong 21:44 OldCoder There's not going to be more fighting about this, is there? 21:44 KikaRz '-' 21:44 thexyz .c e^(sqrt(-1)*pi) 21:44 MinetestBot -1 21:44 marktraceur /join ##testyourfuckingbotelsewhere 21:44 OldCoder thexyz, Euler's Equation! 21:44 kaeza marktraceur: lol 21:44 OldCoder I need consensus 21:44 OldCoder Should the bot be here? 21:45 marktraceur OldCoder: This isn't #bottest, if people are fucking around with the bot, mute them a bit so they can reflect on their misdeeds 21:45 kaeza OldCoder: It seems it has been pretty abused 21:45 OldCoder Bot goes 21:45 OldCoder What is its nick? 21:45 marktraceur OldCoder: The bot is useful, but KikaRz is not. 21:45 KikaRz ... 21:45 OldCoder marktraceur, others may abuse the bot too 21:45 KikaRz marktraceur, who said you? 21:45 OldCoder Would prefer to avoid fighting 21:45 KikaRz im making calculatings. 21:45 marktraceur OldCoder: I have to figure a case-by-case handling is easiest 21:46 OldCoder marktraceur, Yes 21:46 OldCoder KikaRz, any chance of chill? 21:46 kaeza OldCoder: is there any way to prevent flooding, like for example, make only X requests every Y minutes? 21:46 OldCoder kaeza, Yes! 21:46 OldCoder But I can't code it today 21:46 OldCoder Guys I have a project due 21:46 OldCoder I think I want to mute the bot 21:46 marktraceur OldCoder: Do that! 21:46 OldCoder What is its nick? 21:46 OldCoder We can settle this later 21:47 KikaRz yea 21:47 marktraceur MinetestBot: OldCoder is coming for you 21:47 KikaRz do that 21:47 KikaRz MinetestBot: OldCoder is coming for you 21:47 OldCoder /QUIET didn't work Or did it? 21:47 kaeza .c 1 21:47 MinetestBot 1 21:47 kaeza no 21:47 thexyz .py print("bye") 21:47 thexyz no? 21:47 kaeza .c 1 21:47 kaeza yeah 21:47 OldCoder thexyz, let me try please 21:47 kaeza that got it 21:48 thexyz OldCoder: /mode +q 21:48 OldCoder O.K. 21:48 OmegaPhil lol. 21:48 kaeza .c 1 21:48 OldCoder It can be patched 21:48 OldCoder to limit the number of requests 21:48 OldCoder per minute 21:48 kaeza it's gone 21:48 OldCoder that will settle it 21:48 sfan5[iPod] what happend? 21:48 OldCoder Bot is controversial 21:48 OldCoder Don't be irritated 21:49 OldCoder Can we patch it to limit number of requests per minute? 21:49 sfan5[iPod] yes 21:49 OldCoder Thanks; that would be great 21:49 OldCoder Bots are useful; fighting is not 21:50 kaeza Mmmm... I bet the IRC log for today will be several hundred megs 21:50 OldCoder Nah 21:50 OldCoder But more bot than we need 21:50 OldCoder So take heed 21:50 OldCoder Less Bot more MT 21:50 KikaRz kaeza 21:50 KikaRz come here 21:50 kaeza V's server? 21:50 KikaRz '-' 21:51 OldCoder c u ttyl 21:51 OldCoder Have fun 22:02 sfan5[iPod] .c 1-1 22:02 sfan5[iPod] ... 22:03 kaeza nope. muted 22:03 sfan5 .c 1 22:03 MinetestBot 1 22:04 telek At the risk of offering an incompatible suggestion too late to modify: Why isn't the 3d model texture just appended as a third texture after front and back textures for register_on_joinplayer? Done that way you'd keep backwards compatibility with old scripts that only had 2 entries, and have fallbacks for clients which for one reason or another don't handle 3d players well. 22:04 OldCoder NekoGloop, hi 22:05 VanessaE telek: because we use the Minecraft skin format. 22:05 Kacey hello all 22:05 sfan5[iPod] hi 22:05 KikaRz Hi Kacey 22:05 KikaRz got a question to you 22:05 Kacey ooh sfan5 is on... 22:05 Kacey ya what? 22:05 telek VanessaE: Minecraft has a pair of 2d images? 22:05 VanessaE telek: no, the 3d format. 22:06 kaeza hey kacey 22:06 telek VanessaE: This isn't a modification to the format, just to how they're put in/pulled out in the scripts. 22:06 VanessaE telek: using a modified version means all MC skins will be useless. 22:06 VanessaE they should be kept in separate images. 22:06 kaeza telek: does MC have stereoscopic view? 22:06 Kacey KikaRz what is your question? 22:06 OldCoder VanessaE, will there be a runtime option to switch 2D and 3D modes? 22:06 telek VanessaE: From player_textures: textures = {"player_"..player:get_player_name()..".png",,<3d image>} 22:07 VanessaE OldCoder: not as far as I can tell, but once you go 3d you will not want to go back. 22:07 telek This way the textures get loaded 2d f, 2d b, 3d, so there isn't any incompatibility due to one assuming the first texture is 2d, and the other the first texture 3d. 22:08 VanessaE telek: except that in the engine, 3d skins are named 'character.png' or some such, while the 2d skins are still player and player_back, so what you see in that mod is non-standard. 22:08 kaeza sfan5 you are the maintainer of the Win builds right? 22:09 VanessaE the incompatibility you refer to comes from Muadtralk/sdzen being wrong with his filename patterns. :-) 22:09 KikaRz ... without d3d support. 22:09 Kacey does anyone have the latest git pre-compiled? 22:09 sfan5[iPod] kaeza: yes 22:09 telek VanessaE: So basically with the latest versions it's not an issue? 22:09 KikaRz yep 22:09 KikaRz Kacey, windows? yep 22:09 kaeza sfan5: ^^see Kacey 22:10 Kacey let me guess... on the minetest.net? 22:10 VanessaE telek: the player_textures mod is really kind of a skeleton. it was not written to be as robust as you suggest. Just need to bug Muadtralk about it :-) 22:10 sfan5[iPod] no 22:10 Kacey what is site for it? 22:10 telek PilzAdam actually? 22:10 PilzAdam hm? 22:10 VanessaE tell him to update it so it can handle both skin formats at the same time (instead, he modified the 2d version to make it only handle 3d) 22:10 sfan5[iPod] http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds Kacey 22:10 VanessaE https://github.com/sdzen/player_textures 22:11 VanessaE no I mean Muadtralk/sdzen 22:11 KikaRz with d3d support at minetest.ru 22:11 KikaRz contact thexyz 22:11 telek https://github.com/PilzAdam/player_textures? 22:11 Kacey sfan5 thank you 22:11 sfan5[iPod] direct 3d is crap 22:11 VanessaE telek: no. 22:11 sfan5[iPod] opengl i better 22:11 KikaRz thats what you poop 22:11 sfan5[iPod] *is 22:11 kaeza KikaRz, Kacey: opengl is better 22:11 KikaRz give me a compatible graphics card with my computer 22:11 KikaRz give me a compatible graphics card with my computer 22:12 Kacey i use opengl 22:12 sfan5[iPod] KikaRz: so i poop high quality standards? 22:12 KikaRz mayb.e 22:12 KikaRz I just can play in D3D. 22:12 KikaRz and its the only thing that i need 22:12 kaeza what gfx card do you have KikaRz? 22:12 PilzAdam VanessaE, telek, i linked sdzen's 3D player version in the topic: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=50271#p50271 22:13 telek PilzAdam: Yeah I haven't been on the forums in a couple weeks. 22:13 KikaRz Telling by the 42921 time 22:13 KikaRz NViDia GeForce 2 MX/MX 400. 22:14 telek Ouch. 22:14 VanessaE there, see? :-) 22:14 kaeza NVidia supports OpenGL 22:14 KikaRz ... 22:14 sfan5[iPod] my 2nd pc has that gpu 22:14 KikaRz NOT ALL GRAPHICS CARD 22:14 Kacey GOOGLE CHROME OPEN ALREADY!!!!!! 22:14 KikaRz -.- 22:14 telek kaeza: That care is like early 2000's era. 22:14 sfan5[iPod] opengl works 22:14 KikaRz In this? Don't. 22:14 telek Around the same era/features as my RV100 based laptop :D 22:14 KikaRz in Linux? all bugged. 22:15 kaeza I had an GeForce4 MX4000 and worked perfectly 22:15 KikaRz GeForce 4! 22:15 KikaRz not 2! 22:15 telek kaeza: GF2 MX is like 2 generations back from that. 22:15 KikaRz 2 its very very old 22:15 KikaRz yea 22:15 KikaRz it is 22:15 telek Win9x old. 22:15 KikaRz ouch 22:15 KikaRz not that old 22:15 Kacey windows xp officially sucks 22:15 KikaRz maybe from Windows 2000 and 98 22:15 KikaRz No it dont 22:15 KikaRz Kacey, Windows 7 and 8 SUCKS 22:15 telek I'm pretty sure it predates WinXP 22:16 KikaRz not Xp 22:16 Doc22_ hey 22:16 kaeza why not get a better comp/gfx card KikaRz? 22:16 KikaRz XP got a lot of compatibility 22:16 kaeza hey Doc22_ 22:16 KikaRz No compatibility with my Motherboard 22:16 VanessaE if you were using linux you probably wouldn't be having problems with that card :-) 22:16 telek kaeza: Pretty sure if she could she would. 22:16 kaeza ... 22:16 Doc22_ is anyone here interested in making mesecons machines 22:16 telek VanessaE: AFAIK there's not official support for that card under nouveau. 22:16 Kacey a little 22:16 kaeza Doc22_: +1 22:16 Kacey but do you have 0.4.4? 22:16 Doc22_ ok i want to make a computer 22:16 KikaRz Im interested! 22:17 Doc22_ I made a programmable monitor 22:17 Doc22_ ok 22:17 Doc22_ whoever is interested query me 22:17 Doc22_ the one with _ (i double logged lol) 22:17 kaeza kick Doc22? 22:17 PilzAdam gtg 22:17 PilzAdam bye 22:17 telek It's an OpenGL 1.2 card, according to the nouveau website. 22:17 kaeza bye 22:17 KikaRz telek, wrong 22:17 KikaRz this graphics card dont support opengl 22:18 KikaRz totally. non supported 22:18 KikaRz just 0.4% 22:18 VanessaE so use the legacy nvidia driver? 22:18 Doc22_ yes kaeza 22:18 Doc22_ i accidentally double-logged 22:18 kaeza telek: post a link to nouveau's site for the love of gawd 22:19 telek http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames 22:19 kaeza KikaRz: ^ 22:19 telek VanessaE: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix 22:20 Doc22_ sfan5[ipod] can I have link to new version 22:20 Doc22_ or anyone? 22:20 telek No linux support for GF2MX. 22:20 Doc22_ o.4.4 22:20 Doc22_ 0.4.4 22:20 VanessaE telek: like I said, "legacy" nvidia driver (e.g. the proprietary one). does it still exist? 22:20 Kacey the latest dev is not there sfan5 22:21 Kacey nvm found it 22:21 Doc22_ ok 22:21 Doc22_ link? 22:21 telek VanessaE: As far as I remember they dropped support for anything that old back in like '04 22:21 KikaRz Yes it exists 22:21 telek o.O 22:21 Kacey http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/ 22:21 telek It's still in -legacy? 22:21 Kacey look for latest 22:21 telek I thought legacy stopped at either FX series cards or 6x00 series cards. 22:22 kaeza VanessaE: join #minetest-irc-testing 22:48 VanessaE zzz 22:49 Muadtralk zzzz 22:50 marktraceur Muadtralk: You just have to one-up everyone, huh? 22:51 Muadtralk yep! 22:53 KikaRz zzzz 22:53 KikaRz zzzz 22:53 KikaRz zzzzzz 22:54 Muadtralk actually i was hoping to cause a channel spam of z's 22:54 Muadtralk but it didnt work 22:54 Muadtralk bummer 22:57 VanessaE while true; do echo -n "z"; done 22:57 VanessaE there. 22:58 OldCoder #!/bin/ircsh Huh? 22:59 VanessaE heh 23:01 Exio ircsh? i want it! 23:04 marktraceur VanessaE: You mean `yes zzz` 23:04 KikaRz yeszzz... 23:04 * marktraceur sighs 23:04 marktraceur KikaRz: What? 23:06 jin_xi is there a way to force light update of nodes in-game? 23:09 NakedFury besides placing something near the place? 23:10 KikaRz New Server created. 23:10 jin_xi in a huuuge building for example... 23:10 KikaRz M13's 0.4.4 testing server 23:10 KikaRz .sv 23:10 MinetestBot KikaRz: GameBoom's MineTest server MT1 | mt1.gameboom.net:30000 up (99.487%) 23:10 KikaRz .sv 23:10 MinetestBot KikaRz: NotObamaLand | notobama.freedns.mobi:30000 up (97.162%) 23:10 KikaRz i want to find m13 server 23:10 KikaRz .sv 23:11 MinetestBot KikaRz: PlanetMinetest Creative Server | planetminetest.com:30000 down 23:11 iqualfragile !up minetest.org 23:11 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.org UP 23:11 KikaRz KikaRz: M13's Server (0.4.3) | m13.servegame.com:30001 down down 23:11 kaeza sfan5[iPod]: maybe make .sv send private message? 23:12 kaeza jin_xi: I need it too 23:14 iqualfragile !die 23:14 KikaRz not needed 2 bots 23:14 KikaRz !die 23:14 KikaRz Just 1 bot. 23:14 KikaRz and its over. 23:16 Octupus Hola 23:17 kaeza Hola 23:17 Dogzilla131 hola 23:17 iqualfragile !die 23:17 KikaRz ... 23:17 KikaRz !up m13.servegame.com 23:17 moltenbot Minetest server m13.servegame.com:m13.servegame.com DOWN 23:17 KikaRz !up m13.servegame.com 23:17 moltenbot Minetest server m13.servegame.com:m13.servegame.com DOWN 23:17 KikaRz !up m13.servegame.com:30001 23:17 moltenbot Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30001:m13.servegame.com:30001 DOWN 23:17 KikaRz !die 23:18 iqualfragile !help 23:18 moltenbot Try !up !ping [] !date 23:18 KikaRz Hate 2 bots in a roomk 23:18 KikaRz !die 23:18 KikaRz !qui 23:18 KikaRz !quit 23:18 Dogzilla131 hey whats a titanium dioxide 23:18 KikaRz its what a bot gots in the ass. 23:18 kaeza wikipedia it :) 23:18 KikaRz !up m13.servegame.com 23:18 moltenbot Minetest server m13.servegame.com:m13.servegame.com UP 23:18 KikaRz !ping m13.servegame.com 30001 23:18 moltenbot 64 bytes from 5.175.194.246: icmp_req=1 ttl=56 time=11.7 ms 23:19 KikaRz !ping m13.servegame.com 30001 23:19 moltenbot 64 bytes from 5.175.194.246: icmp_req=1 ttl=56 time=12.9 ms 23:19 KikaRz !ping m13.servegame.com 30001 23:19 moltenbot 64 bytes from 5.175.194.246: icmp_req=1 ttl=56 time=12.7 ms 23:19 KikaRz !date 23:19 moltenbot Sa 1. Dez 00:19:05 CET 2012 23:19 OldCoder KikaRz, please don't overdo it 23:19 KikaRz I was testing my server ping 23:20 jin_xi http://imgur.com/a/NmGwO my cathedral of booze and boredom with borked light... 23:20 iqualfragile !up m13.servegame.com 23:20 moltenbot Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30000 UP 23:20 iqualfragile !up m13.servegame.com 30001 23:20 moltenbot Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30000 UP 23:20 kaeza jin_xi cool 23:21 iqualfragile who made the minetestbot? 23:22 iqualfragile eww, boring, its just an premade bot… http://inamidst.com/phenny/ 23:22 OldCoder berome, wb 23:22 marktraceur iqualfragile: Probably sfan5[iPod], since he was playing with it 23:22 OldCoder iqualfragile, we can replace it later 23:23 OldCoder I have a premade bot that's fun 23:23 berome salut ! 23:24 iqualfragile my bot is written in bash 23:24 iqualfragile :D 23:24 jin_xi kaeza: thanks. its mostly stairs+ ;) 23:25 kaeza jin_xi: but the light is borked somehow 23:25 kaeza It happened to me also 23:25 OldCoder iqualfragile, bashbot is hot 23:25 OldCoder You have thought of a hot bash bot 23:26 OldCoder iqualfragile, What you got? You have thought of a hot bash bot. Bad it is not. Right on the dot. 23:26 iqualfragile dear god 23:27 OldCoder :D 23:27 iqualfragile !die 23:27 kaeza ummm... guys? I accidentally half of my map and I don't have backups. Is this bad? 23:27 OldCoder Now the bot is not 23:28 iqualfragile now the bot is back 23:28 kaeza !die 23:28 OldCoder kaeza, you are missing a word 23:28 iqualfragile nope 23:28 kaeza nice work 23:28 OldCoder What happened? 23:28 jin_xi its a meme 23:28 OldCoder Meme it would seem 23:28 iqualfragile !die 23:28 kaeza oldcoder: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-accidentally 23:29 OldCoder kaeza, k 23:29 kaeza nevertheless, I forgot I got a server running and started a secon one on the same world 23:29 iqualfragile thats bad 23:29 iqualfragile now the world did died 23:30 iqualfragile like: you killed it 23:30 kaeza ask that to my house that's now half wood house and half a dungeon 23:30 iqualfragile ulol 23:31 kaeza It's like mapgen generated the chunks again 23:31 kaeza Isn't there a protection mechanism to avoid such things? 23:32 kaeza i.e: not allow to start two servers on the same world dir? 23:34 iqualfragile nope 23:34 iqualfragile try killing it again 23:34 kaeza the damage is already done to the map.sqlite it seems 23:35 OldCoder Ouch! 23:36 OldCoder Fried 23:36 kaeza completely F*cked up 23:36 kaeza my last backup is from a week ago 23:37 kaeza may as well start a new world from scratch 23:37 OldCoder How large was the old world? 23:37 OldCoder The backup I mean 23:38 kaeza about 1000 nodes in X and Z and about 500 nodes deep. Most of it explored. Too many buildings to count 23:38 kaeza oh sorry 23:39 kaeza the old one is about 500x500 23:51 * berome my life ... :on my old computer running ubuntu and 043, debug.txt is growing day by day; the first time I discover this file, I try to open it with an editor, and it takes hours (really) and ending failed. 23:52 berome Usually logs files on Linux works in a clever way: "something" cut them automaticaly by day, or something; so I wonder if it is ok to make something for that before 044 ? 23:52 OldCoder berome, 044 ? 23:53 OldCoder I don't quite follow 23:53 berome yes version 0.4.3 23:53 OldCoder Oh! ty 23:53 berome and future 0.4.4 23:53 OldCoder Yep. Got it. 23:53 OldCoder Taoki, welcome! 23:54 Taoki hi :) 23:54 berome hi 23:56 berome I 'm saying that because I notice a bug occurs for me, and workaround for me is to delete this file and restart mt; I was told someone with the same bug who erase minetest.conf in this case ... 23:56 marktraceur berome: Sounds like you had a syntax error in minetest.conf or something 23:57 berome ? I don't know, I never edit this file ? 23:58 marktraceur berome: What kind of bug is it, exactly? 23:58 berome I don't know if this is time and place for talking about that, but everybody here seems "aware" 23:58 berome It is a disparition (visual) of nodes, but they are still diggables, and mouse act like zoom(!) 23:59 berome I see were I am but I'm far far away of this place (like)