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00:15 hmmmm left #minetest
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00:15 sokomine hi mauvebic
00:15 mauvebic hey
00:15 mauvebic whats new?
00:15 Uberi hey mauvebic
00:17 Muadtralk Ah muavebic you missed it? the world has been taken over by mutant turkeys and they just dropped the neutron bomb on the south pole.
00:17 Uberi darn, not again
00:17 mauvebic lol ive been nuking a map all afternoon
00:18 Muadtralk oh and it seems it was a quiet day for minetest, xyzz commited something 4 hours ago.
00:19 mauvebic dunno my old tower has the later version since my old drive died
00:19 mauvebic and the textures are all fucked up
00:19 mauvebic *latest
00:19 mauvebic everyone shows as leaves lol
00:19 Muadtralk COOL
00:20 mauvebic so for warfare, what kindof weapons are essential?
00:20 Muadtralk care to show me how to reproduce that bug?
00:20 Uberi guns!
00:20 Uberi well, that's all I think are essential, really
00:20 mauvebic well i got the plasma rifle (rapid fire 5 shots) the grenade launcher and the battlefield nuke launcher, anything missing?
00:20 Uberi plus bullets, guns are not very useful without bullets
00:20 Uberi except maybe as a club
00:20 mauvebic plasma rifle no need bullets, is power :p
00:21 Uberi and a poor club at that
00:21 Uberi nope, I don't think there's anything missing :)
00:21 Muadtralk why we need laser swords as well
00:21 mauvebic ooo the little knives old soliders put ontheir guns!
00:21 Muadtralk baonettes?
00:21 mauvebic baonettes! yes
00:21 * Muadtralk spelling fail.
00:21 mauvebic bayonettes?
00:21 mauvebic wtv lol
00:21 Uberi bayonettes?
00:22 Uberi yeah
00:22 Muadtralk yes
00:23 mauvebic anyways the plasma rifle should be ready by tomorrow thats pretty cool by itself lol
00:23 mauvebic if the first energy bullet doesnt get em, the next 4 will lol
00:26 uzver PLASMA RIFLE?
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00:27 mauvebic yeah like in star trek lol
00:27 Fixer seriously, can i request some artillery and ak47 please?
00:27 mauvebic tanks are impossible but turrents are
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00:50 marktraceur mauvebic: It would be cool to have smoke grenades or similar, and smoke effects on most gunpowder-based weapons. Should be possible if I'm not mistaken.
00:51 Uberi hey marktraceur, what's this I hear about a conveyor belt mod? :P
00:51 marktraceur Uberi: It's part of the industry modpack, which is more convenient because it pulls in all of the dependencies
00:51 Uberi I can't wait
00:51 marktraceur Uberi: I'm going to make a factory mod right now, then make an official-sauce release tarball
00:52 marktraceur Uberi: You don't have to wait! http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804
00:52 Uberi \o/
00:52 marktraceur ...unless you can't use git, in which case you might have to wait
00:52 marktraceur Calinou made an unofficial release, but I can't say it's perfect
00:52 Uberi oh do you have a GitHub mirror?
00:52 marktraceur No, Gitorious only
00:52 Uberi ah, OK
00:53 marktraceur Uberi: Why do you ask for GitHub specifically?
00:54 Uberi well, it's easy for me to see commits/activity from my feed
00:55 marktraceur Ah. You should be able to follow Gitorious activity in much the same way.
00:56 * marktraceur goes to grab coffee, then will make the factories
00:56 Uberi of course, yes
00:57 Uberi oops forgot to update submodules
00:58 Uberi can I make a suggestion, marktraceur?
00:58 * khonkhortisan : Ping Returned
00:58 Uberi you used the GPLv3 license, but MineTest mods are run on the server side
00:58 Uberi if you aim to protect the freedom of the software, there's a loophole in the GPL that is fixed by the AGPLv3
00:59 Uberi just want to mention that
00:59 marktraceur Uberi: I'm aware of it, but this community is already put off by GPL
00:59 Uberi I see
00:59 marktraceur Uberi: I may relicense in the future, but I haven't made that determination yet.
01:00 Uberi I can tell you that it's worked quite well with WorldEdit though :)
01:00 Uberi oh I like the idea of the transactor
01:00 marktraceur Uberi: That's really the only functional part of the modpack so far, other than the rubber collector (which I didn't mention in the forum post, but will add now)
01:01 mauvebic marktraceur smoke effects can be tricky, are we talking nodes or entities?
01:02 marktraceur mauvebic: It would almost certainly need to be nodes. Just define a node "air_smoky", add it in a small mod (so other mods can use it easily), and maybe make a nice little function to make a smoke cloud of radius X around a point.
01:03 mauvebic for nukes i uses toruses but yeah it would look nicer in smoke than in fire
01:03 Uberi that sounds pretty compute-intensive
01:03 mauvebic naw
01:03 mauvebic a torus full of fire or full of smoke is the same to the CPU
01:03 marktraceur mauvebic: Bonus points if you calculate the volume of smoke from the radius and make up for solid nodes blocking you by increasing the radius appropriately (since smoke wouldn't just disappear, it would move somewhere else)
01:04 mauvebic well the mushroom bit of the mushroom cloud would evaporate, but the groundblast details i have yet to work out
01:04 Uberi and the block durability for the blast could also be applied to the TNT mod
01:04 Uberi right now TNT can destroy any node
01:05 mauvebic tricky thing for the nuke is: default fire only burns wood/trees
01:05 mauvebic i use "plasmafire" for nukes that burns through almost anything
01:05 mauvebic because a nuke doesn't care if your house is metallic or wood lol
01:06 mauvebic i could practically use a custom fire and smoke node for nukes
01:06 Uberi forum search implemented! http://www.autohotkey.net/paste/16bs2i1
01:06 Uberi oh sorry wrong channel
01:06 marktraceur Uberi: Updated forum post to include rubber_collector, hopefully you're as happy about that as I was
01:07 Uberi you mean like, rubber trees?
01:07 Uberi oh hey that's a good idea
01:07 marktraceur Uberi: rubber is included in the modpack, that's what adds rubber trees
01:08 marktraceur Uberi: rubber_collector and rubber_sheet just give it some more form
01:08 marktraceur (thank VanessaE for the rubber_sheet idea)
01:08 Uberi I can see this adding a lot to gameplay
01:08 mauvebic rubber sheets
01:08 mauvebic i think i have texture in old modpack
01:08 mauvebic looks like a roll
01:08 marktraceur mauvebic: I used VanessaE's texture for plastic sheets and played with the darkness :)
01:09 mauvebic works too
01:09 mauvebic though if you need more textures my first modpack had a bunch of electricity stuff
01:09 mauvebic my second modpacks all wireless now
01:09 marktraceur mauvebic: I suspect I don't.....I'll need to make something vaguely factory-like, but that shouldn't be too hard.
01:09 mauvebic steampunk style?
01:10 Uberi that reminds me, I need to fix wireless mesecons eventually
01:10 marktraceur Actually, question: A lot of people make nodeboxes with like....half nodes, quarter nodes....what about double or triple nodes?
01:10 marktraceur Should be possible, right?
01:10 Uberi marktraceur: I've tried, didn't work with nodes
01:10 marktraceur Hrm.
01:10 Uberi but it did work with entities with visual_scale
01:10 mauvebic i think nodeboxes can overlap yes
01:10 mauvebic ive seen iot
01:10 marktraceur Well, single node should be fine
01:10 Uberi yeah they can overlap but can't seem to go outside the bounds by much
01:10 mauvebic marktraceur are you french or quebecois?
01:11 marktraceur mauvebic: Moi, je suis americain.
01:11 marktraceur mauvebic: "traceur" is a description of my hobby, Parkour.
01:11 mauvebic ahhh lol sounded like a french name lol
01:12 marktraceur mauvebic: I'm French by night, Swedish/Irish American by day.
01:12 marktraceur It's a complicated life.
01:12 mauvebic lol well my real family name is Cloutier
01:12 Uberi he's the hero we deserve
01:12 mauvebic doesnt get more french then that lol
01:12 Uberi but not the one we need
01:12 marktraceur Uberi: A Swedish/Irish American? Boy, nobody deserves that kind of hero. Crime would skyrocket.
01:13 marktraceur "Who's the superhero in this city?" "Lefse man" "We are going to OWN that guy"
01:13 Uberi :P
01:13 marktraceur (and silence ensues as people go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lefse )
01:14 Uberi oh now you just made me hungry
01:14 mauvebic how many languages you know so far?
01:15 marktraceur Uberi: I just made lefse today, too, it's a Thanksgiving tradition in my family
01:15 marktraceur mauvebic: Me? Computer languages or human ones?
01:15 mauvebic computer lol
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01:16 marktraceur mauvebic: I can speak with our digital friends in roughly 9 languages
01:17 marktraceur mauvebic: But some of those I count as half-knowing because I (for example) did a few hacks and then moved on
01:17 marktraceur 7 are solid
01:17 mauvebic to me php and python are nearly the same
01:17 mauvebic lua is alot like php too actually lol
01:18 marktraceur mauvebic: Lua and JavaScript are a lot more similar, if you're doing it "right" in both
01:18 mauvebic i can hack the cpp mapgen, but dont ask me to do more in c++ lol
01:18 marktraceur mauvebic: But "right" is a very subjective term
01:18 mauvebic javascript(ajax) and css too but webdesign is so bleh these days
01:18 marktraceur mauvebic: I agree....my C++ skills are mostly academic (I was a C++ tutor for 3 years, I can get you through an intro to C++ class with an A+, but don't ask me to write anything complicated in it)
01:19 marktraceur mauvebic: With node.js there's a lot happening in JavaScript that isn't on the web
01:19 mauvebic well if i could id do more in minetest but yeah C++ syntax is very different
01:19 marktraceur mauvebic: I've been working on a project in JavaScript for three months now, have only touched CSS once or twice (and only for functional things)
01:20 mauvebic CSS is nice if you've experienced the era of table-based designs lol
01:20 marktraceur mauvebic: Maybe it would be a good idea to run a "let's learn more about the engine" workshop one day
01:20 mauvebic though table based were often easier in php
01:20 marktraceur And/or a "let's refactor the engine so it makes more sense more quickly" hack day
01:20 mauvebic well it wouldn't hurt to have a few faqs up explaining the engine
01:20 marktraceur Yeah.
01:21 mauvebic i can do things like change the size of the sun/moon
01:21 mauvebic but thats hardly a patch lol
01:21 marktraceur celeron55: Are you interested in putting up more information for new contributors, or has your get-off-my-lawn mentality stuck around? :)
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01:23 jordan4ibanez http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=53050#p53050
01:23 Uberi hey jordan4ibanez
01:24 jordan4ibanez Hi uberi :D
01:24 mauvebic i think c55 == afk atm
01:24 mauvebic what does it mean when names are in grey on xchat?
01:25 jordan4ibanez I finally got sick of the placenode sound and decided to "fix it"
01:25 mauvebic does the grass still sound like egg shells? lol
01:25 marktraceur mauvebic: Probably that they have an away message set, which is fine, he'll get the message when he returns. I know IRC is async.
01:25 Uberi jordan4ibanez: I never noticed that, but then again I play with the sound off :)
01:25 mauvebic oh yeah these things log lol
01:25 * marktraceur compiles with -DENABLE_SOUND=0
01:26 jordan4ibanez I like the sounds, I play with my custom ones
01:26 marktraceur Game sounds make my music listening experience less fun
01:26 marktraceur But more power to you, jordan4ibanez
01:27 jordan4ibanez Lol, with this every time you place a node you can play a song :P
01:27 mauvebic thats not a problem for me, 4 computers plugged into the same sound system lol
01:27 mauvebic i love jango.com lol
01:27 jordan4ibanez try clementine!
01:27 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: That might get loud, considering the number of nodes I place :/
01:28 jordan4ibanez Lmao
01:28 mauvebic celementine has online radio?
01:28 jordan4ibanez Clementine has everything
01:28 jordan4ibanez EVERYTHING
01:28 mauvebic is that a website or the music player for gnome?
01:28 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Hypnotoad!
01:28 jordan4ibanez Music player for all desktops
01:28 mauvebic ok i know what youre talking about
01:29 mauvebic dunno i didnt even install a music player my old hd died with all my music and pix on it
01:29 mauvebic (that thread where i complained about clikcing sounds, thats what it was lol)
01:30 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Please tell me you know what I'm talking about, re: hypnotoad
01:30 Uberi is there any way to change a client's settings from a mod?
01:30 jordan4ibanez Yes i do lol
01:31 mauvebic from a mod?
01:31 marktraceur Uberi: As in the stuff in minetest.conf?
01:31 mauvebic you can change minetest.conf but it wont work until restart
01:31 Uberi aw
01:31 marktraceur mauvebic: But that would only work if the mod was in a singleplayer world, else it would only modify the server minetest.conf
01:31 Uberi there goes my telescope idea
01:31 jordan4ibanez You'd have to include that clientside
01:32 mauvebic well that begs the question, why edit minetest.conf in game?
01:32 jordan4ibanez Change the fov while the game is running
01:32 jordan4ibanez blockplanet does that
01:32 mauvebic fov?
01:32 jordan4ibanez When you run at least
01:32 jordan4ibanez Field of view
01:32 Uberi field of view, yes
01:32 mauvebic like -/+
01:32 mauvebic ?
01:32 jordan4ibanez like very smoothly
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01:32 jordan4ibanez Jeija did it, you'd have to look at his commits to it
01:33 mauvebic change what exactly then?
01:33 rarkenin Hi. With the current 0.4 state, is it possible to make blocks that allow one-way passage?
01:33 Uberi say what of the BlockPlanet patches?
01:33 Uberi there's a lot of stuff in them and it'd be a shame to let it all go to waste
01:34 jordan4ibanez Here's the commits https://github.com/Jeija/BlockPlanet/commits/master
01:34 Uberi rarkenin: you can build one with mesecons
01:34 khonkhortisan Yes, but it would be jittery if you try to go the wrong way
01:34 Uberi add a pressure plate connected to a piston door on one side
01:34 mauvebic has anyone had the mapgen bug yet?
01:34 khonkhortisan or track the player's position and only allow it to move one direction
01:34 rarkenin OK... I'm interested in making a possible mod.
01:34 khonkhortisan there's also trapdoors
01:35 marktraceur rarkenin: My instinct is that you should look at the pressure plate mod, figure out how they detect a player step, and use the same system to allow pass-through on collision with your new node.
01:35 rarkenin OK. Thanks. I hope I didn't interrupt the previous conversation.
01:35 Uberi oh, in Mesecons we use an ABM with get_objects_in_radius
01:35 khonkhortisan No, you're not that noisy.
01:35 mauvebic dont worry, were all modding lol
01:36 marktraceur Uberi: That sounds buggy!
01:36 Uberi then if you find a player, something's standing on it
01:36 Uberi marktraceur: it works, though :P
01:36 Uberi you can walk right over it if the server is lagging, unfortunately
01:36 * marktraceur wonders why we don't have an on_collision hook yet
01:37 rarkenin That would really be useful...
01:37 khonkhortisan just tie it to where the physics system stops movement
01:37 mauvebic i wish nodes could overlap lol
01:37 khonkhortisan yuck
01:37 khonkhortisan we could have 45° nodes then
01:37 Uberi is that ? a degree symbol?
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01:38 khonkhortisan yep. compose+o+o
01:38 mauvebic overlap is highly unlikely though
01:38 babyface1031 hi Doc22 and @OldCoder
01:38 khonkhortisan also, a divide symbol ÷
01:39 mauvebic all nodes should be falling nodes though, that would already help gravity alot
01:39 marktraceur babyface1031: His nick is just OldCoder, the @ means he's a mod, but isn't part of his nick.
01:39 mauvebic unless is somehow connected to a node with group antigrav=1, it should fall
01:39 khonkhortisan there's a node physics topic on the forum, that's slightly more complicated than falling
01:39 Uberi mauvebic: that would make buildings rather... difficult :P
01:40 Uberi not to mention entity-entity collision
01:40 mauvebic i said connected :P
01:40 khonkhortisan oh yeah, where you can't have floating islands
01:40 mauvebic its tricky though
01:40 Uberi especially with Taoki's 3D models
01:40 khonkhortisan that could be done
01:40 mauvebic the thing with falling nodes is that the support has to be under
01:41 OldCoder Hi
01:41 Uberi hey OldCoder
01:41 OldCoder babyface1031, Octuteam World is back up
01:41 mauvebic and it if were sideways, youd have to check that each subsequent node is connected to something thats connected to the ground
01:41 OldCoder and better than ever! :-)
01:41 babyface1031 it si :D
01:41 OldCoder Well, less corrupted anyway
01:41 OldCoder Should be fine for now
01:41 OldCoder Go try it and report missing pieces
01:41 OldCoder We are reverted to the 17th
01:42 babyface1031 ok
01:42 khonkhortisan mauvebic, Related: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3032
01:42 mauvebic i read it :p i just thought it was near impossible to do in lua
01:43 khonkhortisan every block would have physics-related metadata in it if it was done in lua
01:43 khonkhortisan it might be slow
01:43 mauvebic dont need metadata
01:43 khonkhortisan ?
01:43 mauvebic the world is flat
01:43 mauvebic every node falls down
01:44 mauvebic unless a node is squishy, it doesnt bounce
01:44 mauvebic thats basic physics right there, enough for MT
01:44 Uberi pretty much
01:44 mauvebic thing is all nodes dont fall down if they are connected to something connected to the ground
01:44 mauvebic thats the tricky bit
01:45 mauvebic recursive algorithms are to be avoided lol
01:45 khonkhortisan if a node was hanging on a wall and fell because it had too much weight on top of it, it would need metadata - and the physics wouldn't be so simple
01:45 babyface1031 OldCoder we have to get all the machines out again
01:46 Uberi and whether a node is on the ground is a tricky thing in itself
01:46 mauvebic dont need meta use groups instead
01:46 khonkhortisan â‘  build tower â‘¡ build two-node-long plateau on top of the tower â‘¢ remove tower â‘£ watch the two nodes holding each other up in mid-air
01:46 Uberi you have to check all the way to -y chunk load distance
01:46 OldCoder babyface1031, Yep
01:47 mauvebic and gravity would probably fuck up things like worldedit and multinode
01:47 marktraceur khonkhortisan: You could probably use a system of links that point to supporting nodes, instead of simply "is there an adjacent node"
01:47 marktraceur khonkhortisan: That way it's all included in node metainfo from the second mapgen fires
01:47 mauvebic assuming the user places them manually, then yes, you could always set each node to show if theres a connected node
01:48 mauvebic i think thats what is_ground_content was meant to do lol
01:49 marktraceur mauvebic: No, no, not only player-placed. mapgen can set the support links in generation. It would be a few more bits to store per node, but might be worth it for realism lovers
01:49 Uberi oh man I've been looking for what that does for ages!
01:49 Uberi it wasn't documented anywhere
01:49 marktraceur Uberi: It's no-op
01:49 khonkhortisan yeah a nothing variable
01:49 mauvebic still
01:49 rarkenin Still, the legacy method should remain available for the realosm haters or those with slow machines.
01:49 mauvebic gravity is helluvalot more tricky to setup than warfare or RPGs, and we dont even have much of that yet
01:50 marktraceur Uberi: I guess you could look at it as a flag that means "This mod was coded by a newbie who has copied from old examples and hasn't chatted with experienced modders"
01:50 marktraceur :)
01:50 mauvebic if gravity is done, it wont be in lua thats for sure lol
01:50 marktraceur mauvebic: The community seems a little hostile to the RPG idea, though, innit?
01:51 mauvebic well i dont like RPGs either, but my wife does lol
01:51 mauvebic so i thought, instead of caftable items, what about skill items?
01:51 * khonkhortisan playing an rpg right now
01:51 Uberi we were all noobs, once
01:51 mauvebic youd need a certain skill level to be able to craft something
01:51 Uberi well I think RPGs are best left to mods
01:51 marktraceur Uberi: Agreed! I only learned about the is_ground thing yesterday.
01:51 marktraceur Er...maybe a few days ago
01:52 * marktraceur is a little bit blurry this week
01:52 Uberi you can't make an RPG for everyone, but you can make a sandbox :)
01:52 mauvebic no but a basic RPG API
01:52 mauvebic theyre all the same anyways
01:52 Uberi then you have many RPG mods, one for each player's tastes
01:52 mauvebic you need skills to do X and make Y
01:52 Uberi eh, I suppose you could put it that way
01:52 mauvebic math-wise i mean :p
01:52 marktraceur OK, I have a simple request: What should be used to craft factories?
01:53 mauvebic one-node factories?
01:53 marktraceur I think there should be multiple levels of tech tree between the base materials and a factory, since it's such a powerful concept
01:53 mauvebic something with mese
01:53 Uberi lots of mese
01:53 mauvebic well if its like simcity or age of empires, a player should "evolve" their colony before having access to better resources
01:54 marktraceur I'm considering using two of my transactors as part of the recipe, but more third-level craftitems (i.e., you need to craft twice to make them) would be good
01:54 mauvebic we need a sortof "research" mod lol
01:54 mauvebic like homeworld
01:55 * marktraceur doesn't like the idea of using mese in this recipe
01:55 mauvebic in minetest you start out pretty much stone age lol
01:55 Uberi then you got Mesecons/Tekkit and... I dunno, a MESE age?
01:56 marktraceur Something that you'd see in the construction of a factory. I have mechanical arms, gears, conveyor belts already available, but I'd like to possibly add more of those second-level craft items and then add third-level ones that go in here
01:56 Uberi marktraceur: a crane, maybe?
01:56 Uberi or a winch
01:56 Uberi lift stuff vertically
01:56 marktraceur Uberi: A winch seems good, that could be used in the middle...maybe a winch that makes a dumbwaiter (little elevator)?
01:56 mauvebic factories would be cool, im working on hunter-killers (terminator) lol
01:57 Uberi oh neat
01:57 mauvebic well i already have guns, NPCs that can shoot are the next step lol
01:58 rarkenin A pulley system would be possibly useful...
01:58 marktraceur rarkenin: This is just a discussion about craft items, but you'd be welcome to use the craft items to make nodes in the future :)
01:58 Uberi can't wait for the next stable MT: 2x faster mapgen, 3D players, key press API
01:59 rarkenin Sorry...
01:59 marktraceur Uberi: Where'd you get those features?
01:59 mauvebic will the mapgen more customizable?
01:59 Uberi plus the hundreds of bugfixes
01:59 marktraceur rarkenin: Don't be, I just wanted to be clear :)
01:59 Uberi marktraceur: the mapgen update was #254, 3D players is Taoki's branch, soon to be merged, and key press API is rba's
01:59 marktraceur Ooh, a hopper. A hopper is important. Maybe two.
01:59 Uberi so many awesome things
02:00 marktraceur Oh cool.
02:01 mauvebic in one of the latest gits all my players show up as leaves, is minetest.conf enable_texture_atlas =false still valid?
02:01 Uberi mauvebic: IIRC tex atlas issues caused mismatched textures...
02:01 Uberi you updated mt_game, right?
02:02 mauvebic on my old tower its the latest version of everything
02:02 mauvebic cant connect to squat either lol
02:02 Uberi :/
02:02 Uberi how about a slightly older version?
02:03 mauvebic all my other comps are running older versions and are fine
02:03 Uberi oh and the next version includes my patches for tree growth and clearpassword crashes, so it should help with the griefer problem
02:03 mauvebic which is why i ahvent updated
02:04 Uberi let's see, I should make a changelog
02:08 marktraceur Is there any existing mod that has chisels, scissors, or other smaller tools?
02:08 Uberi I think I saw shears in one
02:08 Uberi oh yes it was animals/mobf
02:08 marktraceur Hrm, animals
02:09 marktraceur But that's licensed under some stupid "modified GPL" or whatever, and useless to me
02:09 Uberi oh yeah, ask sapier about relicensing
02:09 marktraceur Plus, I need more than shears. OK, I'm on it.
02:12 Uberi I did a quick changelog: http://www.pasteall.org/37459
02:12 Uberi just from the commit summary so far, but there is a big bunch of changes incoming
02:13 marktraceur I want to quickly say, for the record, that I am not an artist. But I'm about to make textures.
02:13 Uberi think of the children! :P
02:21 marktraceur Hrm....what about fueling the factory? Should I make the input/output hoppers smaller and add a fuel slot, take fuel from the input hopper (if it isn't used for the craft recipe), or just run it without fuel?
02:21 rarkenin It would depend on the input being run. Perhaps: Have a fuel place, take fuel if the iten being processed needs it, take no fuel otherwise?
02:22 rarkenin If there is no fuel, skip the things in the input needing fuel.
02:22 marktraceur rarkenin: Well, the question is essentially twofold. 1. Should a factory take fuel to run, and 2. Where should I have the user put the fuel?
02:23 marktraceur rarkenin: Either it takes fuel or not, I figure.
02:23 rarkenin Not all processes really need fuel. Of course, being a biochemist, I base everything on enzymes.
02:23 marktraceur rarkenin: Well, moving mechanical arms and conveyor belts should either take fuel or not, from a gameplay perspective
02:23 rarkenin Most things will need fuel, but some will just take 0 fuel from the fuel hopper.
02:24 rarkenin Ah. Those? They should, IMO, take fuel. They need not go through 2 lava buckets a second. They are just conveyors, not fusion reactors.
02:24 marktraceur *nod8
02:24 marktraceur *nod**
02:25 marktraceur But that means I need to write a fuel-consumption algorithm into it
02:25 * marktraceur grumbles
02:25 rarkenin Just like the furnace?
02:25 marktraceur rarkenin: Basically, but I have to write it into this mod now, tooo
02:25 rarkenin The furnace one can be reused, but doubling times since a conveyor need not reach 950 degrees centigrade.
02:26 marktraceur Seems right :)
02:26 marktraceur rarkenin: Biochemist, eh? That's pretty great.
02:26 marktraceur rarkenin: Are you going to make biochem mods? Or just here to get away from work? :)
02:27 rarkenin I am a student, and am on break due to the national holiday here in the states. Of course, my studies are first.
02:27 rarkenin I might...
02:27 rarkenin Mese-concentrating bacteria?
02:29 marktraceur rarkenin: I'd take fungi that produce useful chemicals, gathered and placed in special equipment for gathering it
02:29 OldCoder Don't model the bacteria individually :p
02:29 marktraceur OldCoder: Game of Life, in Minetest!
02:29 rarkenin I won't... I'll just make flasks.
02:30 OldCoder Sure!
02:30 rarkenin Just not now, I'm a bit tied up right now.
02:30 * marktraceur thinks it might be time to go clean up the late lunch/early dinner he had
02:30 rarkenin Lua hates me. PHP loves me. Therefore I should use a library for PHP-in-LUA.
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02:34 OldCoder babyface1031, wb
02:34 babyface1031 ty
02:35 mauvebic lua is practically php
02:35 mauvebic the php of games lol
02:35 rarkenin It still hates me... :-(
02:36 mauvebic any good at python?
02:37 mauvebic theres alot of stuff you can do with python that you cant with lua, gives for some interesting mods
02:37 rarkenin No, just PHP...
02:37 rarkenin I overuse it.
02:38 rarkenin <offtopic>I've even used it to make a system to arm wrestle over IP. it sisn't work since in testing, I won.</offtopic>
02:40 marktraceur rarkenin: Have you contributed to MediaWiki before? It's a fun project (in my not-so-objective opinion)
02:40 rarkenin No, not really.
02:40 mauvebic i know
02:40 mauvebic i learned php ten years ago, first language
02:41 rarkenin On another note: I don't think this can be done via the mod API, but I'd love to see private chat nets for areas. Great for groups of people working together, or a factory.
02:41 mauvebic private messages are easy
02:41 marktraceur mauvebic: For groups, though, it would be a bit harder
02:41 marktraceur rarkenin: Possible, but not trivial
02:42 marktraceur rarkenin: It would probably be more like "invite people to a group so you can chat privately"
02:42 mauvebic youd have to save the groups to an array
02:42 mauvebic and load them at startup
02:42 marktraceur rarkenin: You'd just need to save the groups, and PM each person when a group message is  sent
02:44 rarkenin Oh, right, I forgot of the PM system.
02:45 marktraceur rarkenin: It's all documented in the API reference (doc/lua_api.txt), search for chat in there
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02:48 Uberi something like clans/factions, maybe
02:50 jordan4ibanez tpa would be nice for that
02:50 Muadtralk minetest-war?
02:50 Muadtralk it had clans
02:50 jordan4ibanez /tpa to_player, /tpaccept, /tpdeny
02:55 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: tpa?
02:56 jordan4ibanez telleport request
02:56 jordan4ibanez then the player being requested denies or accepts
02:57 marktraceur Ah.
03:00 jordan4ibanez very, good for clans
03:01 Uberi teleportation is a bit overpowered though IMO
03:02 Uberi for example, with two players one could raid the base, and as soon as he/she is discovered teleport away
03:10 jordan4ibanez Exactly!
03:10 jordan4ibanez More action lol
03:10 jordan4ibanez LandMine offered to "test" my server, lol.
03:10 Uberi haha
03:12 jordan4ibanez Omg, I've found it, someone that makes me more irritated than vanessae, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=53082#p53082 the last post
03:13 jordan4ibanez No offense vanessae, lol.
03:13 Uberi eh, I usually assume they don't speak English as their first language
03:14 Uberi I mean, it sounds like a translator output, no?
03:14 jordan4ibanez Yep
03:16 Muadtralk you gave up being the T_A_N_K?
03:17 Uberi those underscore were a pain to type, to be honest
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03:18 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: The last post is you, so....you're irritated by yourself? <inception>
03:18 Uberi hey hmmmm
03:18 jordan4ibanez The two hemispheres of my brain are arguing again damnit
03:18 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: His capitalization of "You" might mean he sees you as a deity.
03:18 Uberi and the cerebellum's tired of all their bickering
03:19 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Sever the corpus collossum, that'll all be over
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03:19 OldCoder NekoGloop, Hi
03:20 Uberi hey NekoGloop
03:20 Uberi I'm off to go play some Ace of Spades now :)
03:20 NekoGloop ... I have a feeling that i am needed for some reason or another.
03:20 OldCoder It is quite possible
03:21 Muadtralk yes I need you to run in circles until you get dizzy. :P
03:22 * NekoGloop complies.
03:26 jordan4ibanez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm44w1WdBvo
03:26 jordan4ibanez This is how i react when i get email
03:27 marktraceur I love this so much.
03:31 jordan4ibanez Oh god, and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpRb4McIxys
03:37 NekoGloop jordan4ibanez: Y-y-y-y-y-you have mail!
03:50 babyface1031 night guy and gals
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04:04 Kacey hello
04:04 Kacey hey doc
04:07 Kacey is anyone online?
04:07 NekoGloop No, go away.
04:07 Kacey lol
04:07 khonkhortisan barely
04:07 Kacey Doc22 are you here mentally?
04:09 Kacey ok maybe not
04:10 Kacey neko: i made a mod :)
04:10 Kacey nm
04:11 Kacey anyone want to join my server?
04:11 Doc22 hey guys
04:11 Kacey ooh there you are
04:11 Doc22 i got a 1tb hd for 59$ at black friday sales
04:12 Doc22 WOOOOO
04:12 Kacey but it is only 9 pm
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04:12 Doc22 and i made a farming mod with carrots, raspberries, potatoes, and corn
04:12 Doc22 the corn looks nice
04:12 Kacey cool
04:12 Doc22 :/
04:13 Kacey how about wheat?
04:13 Kacey can i contribute wheat?
04:13 Kacey or at leats the textures
04:14 Doc22 oh sure
04:14 Doc22 lemme see it
04:14 Doc22 ill use it if it matches the other plants
04:14 Kacey well i need to make them first
04:14 Kacey i need to see the others to make it match
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04:17 Doc22 ok
04:17 Kacey joined #minetest
04:17 Doc22 dont bother
04:17 Doc22 its ok
04:17 Doc22 i got them
04:18 Kacey wooooo that was fun
04:18 Doc22 im not uploading till its done
04:18 Kacey k
04:18 Kacey want to join my server?
04:19 Doc22 in a bit
04:20 Kacey k
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04:40 * VanessaE jabs jordan4ibanez in the ribs for the previous "irritating" comment.
04:40 VanessaE hi all.
04:43 * Kacey slaps VanessaE with pure nothing
04:43 VanessaE heh
04:44 * Kacey kicks VanessaE with a horse
04:45 Kacey lol fail
04:45 * Kacey slaps VanessaE with bill gates wallet
04:45 Kacey there it is
04:45 VanessaE hah
04:46 Kacey yep
04:48 Kacey making a mod withDoc22
04:48 telek VanessaE: With just the change falling out of BillG's wallet when it impacted you, not only were you able to pay for the medical bills, but also for the entirety of Minetest development, both scripted and programmed :D
04:48 Kacey lol
04:49 VanessaE haha
04:59 Kacey having technical difficulties with this mod
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04:59 Aqua hi
05:00 VanessaE hi
05:00 Aqua first time using irc =D
05:01 Kacey well as OldCoder would say
05:01 OldCoder Hi!
05:01 Kacey "pull up a seat and stay for a while"
05:01 OldCoder Welcome!
05:01 OldCoder Chill!
05:01 OldCoder Kacey, Hey!
05:01 OldCoder Kacey, 30004 should be good now
05:01 OldCoder Though it's time to shut down the worlds for a backup
05:01 OldCoder
05:01 OldCoder Everybody out of the pool!
05:02 Kacey i am busy making a (somewhat)successful mod
05:02 Aqua how do i know who's online?
05:02 Aqua what mod?
05:02 OldCoder Aqua, online in IRC?
05:02 Aqua yep
05:02 OldCoder Your client should show a list
05:02 OldCoder I see 66 names for example on the right
05:02 OldCoder Try HexChat; it does this
05:02 Kacey my newest (i think it is my fourth) mod called the churnace
05:02 OldCoder churnace?
05:02 Aqua ....so all of those people are online?
05:03 Kacey chest and furnace together
05:03 Aqua lol
05:03 OldCoder Cooks your possessions??
05:03 OldCoder Handy!
05:03 Aqua then you can maked locked churnace
05:03 OldCoder Who needs all that stuff?
05:03 Kacey lol
05:03 OldCoder Burn it up!
05:03 marktraceur Kacey: What the hell does that mean? Bigger inventories for src and dst?
05:04 Kacey no just an inentory that you can store stuff in and cook when you need to
05:04 Aqua took me a few minutes to figure out how to get on irc
05:04 marktraceur ....so it's a furnace.
05:04 telek marktraceur: The inventory just acts as fuel for a furnace, which due to not having an 'input' item slot just continuously combusts what was placed in it. Kinda like a mimic in D&D :D
05:04 Kacey no
05:04 marktraceur Kacey: What's different?
05:05 Aqua my survival games map is nearly ready
05:05 Kacey there will be a cooking side and a storage side of the inventory
05:05 marktraceur Kacey: So a furnace....with bigger inventories.
05:05 Kacey no
05:05 jordan4ibanez How would i go about damaging a player?
05:05 marktraceur Kacey: So what else is different?
05:05 Kacey a chest and a furnace put together
05:06 Aqua so you can store your stuff and cook at the same time nice!
05:06 Kacey yes Aqua got it
05:06 Aqua its handy
05:06 marktraceur Kacey: Normal furnaces have storage too.
05:06 OldCoder But not cook your stuff?
05:06 OldCoder Hmm
05:06 OldCoder So it can't be used to roast your money?
05:07 Kacey marktraceur: but they only have 4 slots
05:07 Kacey oldcoder that is correct
05:07 OldCoder Oh, well
05:07 marktraceur Kacey: So what you're saying is, it's a furnace, but with more than 4 slots? i.e., a BIGGER INVENTORY?
05:07 Aqua no
05:07 Kacey well almost
05:07 marktraceur Kacey: Well, what's the difference between what I just said and what you made?
05:08 Kacey i havent made it work yet
05:08 Aqua isnt it one side for cooking then the other for storing stuff
05:08 Aqua that wont be cooked
05:08 Kacey Aqua that is correct
05:08 marktraceur Kacey: So it's a furnace, with bigger inventory, that doesn't cook things. Interesting.
05:08 Kacey maybe a tab for both
05:08 * marktraceur will be downloading that right away
05:08 Aqua .......
05:08 Aqua facepalm
05:09 * Kacey is going bald from it
05:09 Aqua kacey  u ever gonna release ur water thing
05:09 Aqua the one where it can push you
05:09 Kacey it went down... i lost the code
05:10 VanessaE backups.
05:10 VanessaE always keep backups.
05:10 Aqua i never keep backups
05:10 Aqua to lazy
05:10 Kacey wouldnt be hard to remake but i am busy with churnace right now
05:10 marktraceur Aqua: Syntax error: "lazy" is an invalid verb
05:11 VanessaE it takes zero effort to make backups if you have a good setup.
05:11 Aqua how do i port foward?
05:11 VanessaE I use a script I wrote, which uses several runs of rsync, to backup to an external hard disk.  all I have to do is tell it the path of the drive and everything else happens automatically.
05:11 Aqua for a server
05:11 Aqua http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3624
05:11 VanessaE takes me all of 2 seconds to type my root password.
05:12 Kacey linux?
05:12 Aqua i got windows xp
05:12 Aqua old......really old
05:12 Aqua laptop
05:12 VanessaE Kacey: of course.  no one in their right mind uses windows anyway :)
05:13 Kacey i use xp also but i am going to switch to xubuntu
05:13 VanessaE I use Xubuntu 12.04.  it works well for me.
05:13 marktraceur Kacey: You use NT?
05:13 Kacey nt?
05:13 marktraceur Yeah, NT.
05:13 Kacey what is that?
05:13 marktraceur Kacey: Your kernel
05:13 marktraceur (maybe)
05:14 Kacey i use windows xp
05:14 Aqua can minetest run on mac?
05:14 Kacey and what is a kernal?
05:14 marktraceur Kacey: It's what Linux is, which one do you use?
05:14 VanessaE Aqua: not really, no.  there aren't any current mac builds, but it did run at one time.
05:14 VanessaE but there's at least one guy working on it, so maybe some time soon
05:14 Kacey i dont use one yet
05:14 marktraceur Kacey: You don't use a kernel? That seems unlikely.
05:15 Aqua :( thinking bout getting a mac when i get to high school
05:15 Kacey i use windows xp right now
05:15 marktraceur Kacey: Yeah, but usually that means you're using NT.
05:15 Aqua but then i cant play minetest
05:15 VanessaE now now mark, don't get too pedantic, these are windows users you're talking to - the kind of folks who think a CD/DVD drive is a cupholder and the computer is a hard drive :-)
05:15 VanessaE Aqua: try it under a virtual machine running a linux distribution.
05:16 marktraceur Aqua: A mac is just hardware, get it and put GNU/Linux on it
05:16 VanessaE or do that.
05:16 Kacey hey the cupholder idea worked really well
05:16 Kacey until it closed
05:16 VanessaE Kacey: I can't count the number of people I've heard referring to the computer box itself as just "hard drive".
05:16 marktraceur Aqua: Of course, you could save money and buy decent hardware sans the Apple(TM)(R)(C)(FU) price hike
05:16 Aqua i think  gameboom is down now really need to find a new server
05:16 Kacey lol
05:16 VanessaE lol mark
05:17 VanessaE Aqua: your copy of minetest might be too old, or too new.
05:17 VanessaE gameboom tends to be rather out of date.
05:17 VanessaE they just updated to 0.4.3 recently.
05:17 VanessaE and that's already slightly dated.
05:17 Aqua gameboom was my fave.... :(
05:17 * Kacey cannot wait until 0.5 comes out
05:17 OldCoder Aqua, they supposedly recovered it
05:18 OldCoder Oh
05:18 OldCoder Down again?
05:18 OldCoder I *asked* GhostShell for a copy
05:18 OldCoder D:
05:18 telek Kacey: I'm waiting for 2.0. By then the bugs should be worked out :D
05:18 Aqua too many griefers
05:18 Kacey lol
05:18 telek Also maybe the API will be finalized :D
05:18 Kacey but the bugs are the fun part
05:18 marktraceur telek: By 2.0 we'll be on an accelerated release cycle, each release will just be adding one API hook, once every week
05:18 Aqua does worldedit make minetest lag?
05:19 telek Only if they're crawling around in game, not in-server :D
05:19 Kacey a little bit
05:19 jordan4ibanez Who want's too see something cool?
05:19 telek marktraceur: Not that'll be sometime after 3.x :D
05:19 Kacey i do!!!!!
05:19 telek Right before the switch to only doing major number releases (ala MacOS, Windows, Chrome and Firefox :D
05:20 Kacey by then we would have to pay for mineest if we hadnt contributed to it before
05:21 Aqua pun stop bots is annoying.......and dodgy
05:21 VanessaE actually, when the game is ready to approach the 3.1.0 mark, it should just skip to 5.0.0, just to sidestep all those...ahem..  people .. who insist on saying "4.0.3" or "4.3.0" instead of the correct number.
05:22 VanessaE Kacey: if it were to go commercial it wouldn't matter anyway - it is open source.  by definition, you will never have to pay for what we already have now - anyone can fork it and continue developing a free version
05:22 Kacey ooh
05:22 marktraceur VanessaE: You mean we aren't going to do 2.26.x.x for 7 years then arbitrarily release 3.1?
05:22 VanessaE marktraceur: exactly. :-)
05:22 telek But lots of rabid fanboys will only use the commercial version while decrying the damn dirty hippies :D
05:23 jordan4ibanez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHWsxzrJwCs&amp;feature=youtu.be
05:23 jordan4ibanez Turrets lol
05:23 VanessaE marktraceur: instead, we'll wallow in the 0.4.x realm for the next 2 years and then arbitrarily release 0.5-stable :D
05:23 Aqua is there any server hosted in australia?
05:23 marktraceur VanessaE: By definition, the OSI and the FSF never define price as being a part of the requirements, so it's possible to charge for the software.
05:23 telek Nah, 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, 3.11 for Warehouses, 3.5, 3.51, then 4.0, then 5.0, only called something pertaining to date, then NG, then Plateau, then return to numbering with 7 and 8 :D
05:23 Aqua jordan its not workin
05:24 * telek did miss a couple there :D
05:24 VanessaE marktraceur: oh sure, but if the source is already out there, then anyone can just fork it and keep developing a free-as-in-beer one.
05:24 VanessaE like the big argument over OpenOffice -> LibreOffice.
05:24 telek Or StarOffice -> OpenOffice -> LibreOffice :D
05:25 VanessaE right
05:25 marktraceur We could release Minetest ME (Millenium Edition) in 2014, then spend three years trolling people by simply saying "Oh, you're using the wrong calendar"
05:25 telek Since you'll remember there were complaints when it was still Star vs Open, and the open one was 'inferior' :D
05:25 VanessaE lol
05:25 VanessaE no, better yet.
05:25 telek marktraceur: Don't you mean the 2013 'ME (Mayan Edition)'? :D
05:25 VanessaE Minetest Mayan Edition
05:25 telek ::)
05:25 VanessaE release date, 2012-12-21
05:25 VanessaE :-)
05:25 OldCoder VanessaE, what did you have for dinner?
05:25 marktraceur Oho, and telek beats out VanessaE by a few seconds!
05:26 VanessaE OldCoder: Jennie-O turkey loaf, potatoes, stuffing, biscuits, apple pie with whipped cream.
05:26 OldCoder Turkey Loaf?
05:26 * OldCoder visualizes this marvel
05:26 OldCoder Sounds good actually
05:26 telek Probably because I didn't eat too much this year mark :D
05:26 VanessaE yeah, processed turkey formed into a loaf about half the size of one of those little specialty loaves of bread
05:27 marktraceur telek: Seconded, I had some ham and stuffing, it was plenty for me
05:27 VanessaE OldCoder:  http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mSWq8cd7yLU/TPVyTuuK4yI/AAAAAAAAAJg/no83-fW_n4Q/s1600/jennieo.jpg
05:27 VanessaE that.
05:27 telek Heh, we had a like 5+ course meal for ours, almost all from scratch (save stuffing.)
05:27 Aqua jordan that is soo cool
05:27 VanessaE that's been our thanksgiving staple for the past decade now :-)
05:28 OldCoder I must try it
05:28 VanessaE it's actually very good when cooked right
05:28 OldCoder I believe it
05:28 OldCoder Loaf is Love Of All Food!
05:29 OldCoder Hmm. That needs work.
05:29 VanessaE tip:  make some great value "butter" "flaky" biscuits.  Split one, add a slice of Kraft "singles" cheese, and a few thin slices of the above turkey.  nuke until the cheese melts.  On a separate plate, place a slice of no-sugar-added apple pie from wal-mart (I forge the brand).  Nuke until very warm.  Top with Reddi-Whip.
05:29 VanessaE THOSE two are HEAVEN ON A PLATE.
05:29 VanessaE :-)
05:30 OldCoder Oh my
05:30 OldCoder Sigh
05:30 OldCoder Reddi-Whip is Hip
05:30 VanessaE fuck yeah it is :-)
05:30 OldCoder Not kidding or poking fun
05:30 VanessaE don't give me none of that Cool Whip shit. :-)
05:30 VanessaE Reddi-Whip or bust.
05:30 OldCoder I shall look for the real thing
05:30 OldCoder Yep
05:31 OldCoder VanessaE, I will blog that recipe if I may
05:31 VanessaE go right ahead
05:31 OldCoder Indeed I take heed
05:31 VanessaE I meant Great Value biscuits, that is, Wal-Mart's brand.
05:31 OldCoder k
05:31 marktraceur VanessaE: You don't like Coo Hwhip?
05:32 VanessaE marktraceur: no, I don't like air-whip. :-)
05:32 VanessaE I swear, when the stuff is at normal consumption temperatures, it's like eating flavored air.
05:32 VanessaE heh, Abe's over here half asleep from having consumed too much :)
05:32 marktraceur VanessaE: Oh, I'm making flavoured air right now!
05:33 Aqua is there any server hosted in australia?
05:33 marktraceur VanessaE: Family cookie recipe, basically air + sugar + chocolate. Amazing stuff.
05:33 VanessaE Aqua: no clue - probably though.
05:33 OldCoder VanessaE, turkey slices or turkey loaf slices?
05:33 VanessaE marktraceur: actually that sounds good, save for the sugar - use Stevia instead.
05:33 Aqua cornernote had one
05:34 * marktraceur has been warned off non-sugar by the girlfriend :)
05:34 VanessaE OldCoder: slices of the above Jennie-O turkey loaf.  two to three 1/8 inch thick slices per biscuit.
05:34 OldCoder k
05:34 VanessaE marktraceur: stevia is all natural and is incredibly tasty as sweetners go.
05:35 VanessaE walmart sells it, one brand they have is "truvia".
05:35 marktraceur Hm. I'll think about 'er.
05:35 VanessaE (besides, we have to avoid sugar for diabetic and roux-en-Y reasons)
05:35 marktraceur VanessaE: roux-en-y?
05:36 VanessaE marktraceur: try sometime - give her some favorite food, but sweeten it with that instead of sugar.  see if she notices :-)
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05:36 marktraceur VanessaE: Oooh, she'd be soooo pissed
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05:36 VanessaE Roux-en-Y gastric bypass.   Weight loss surgery.  One of the "side effects" as it were is that consumption of too many carbs, especially sugar, will lead to digestive discomfort or adverse reactions.
05:37 VanessaE marktraceur: not if you offered it to her without her asking for it.
05:37 VanessaE get rid of the sugar.  it's for your better health.
05:37 marktraceur VanessaE: No, when I told her later what was in it she'd be freaked out about it....I'll just ask 'er what she think about it, be safe :)
05:38 Dogzilla131 hey can somebody make a mod to make creatures of Scp coaintaiment Breach?
05:38 VanessaE ok, see what she says then.
05:38 VanessaE Dogzilla131: eh?
05:38 Dogzilla131 Do you know whats Scp Containment Breach
05:38 VanessaE marktraceur: but first, be prepared to offer her some food sweetened therewith.  She'll be more likely to give it a fair chance if you can prepare it right.
05:38 VanessaE Dogzilla131: no.
05:39 Dogzilla131 is horror game look it up
05:39 VanessaE no thanks.
05:39 * marktraceur will make forgotten cookies again with Stevia if she's receptive
05:39 * VanessaE is definitely NOT into horror.
05:39 VanessaE marktraceur: sounds good.
05:40 Aqua freaky zombie thing with cucumber eyes
05:40 Aqua is that wat u mean?
05:40 marktraceur WAT.
05:40 marktraceur https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat
05:43 Dogzilla131 nobody want to make that mod
05:43 Aqua http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Scp+Containment+Breach
05:43 Aqua i can try but it will be dodgy
05:44 VanessaE HO-LY shit:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&amp;v=hQYTMFCLy5E&amp;NR=1
05:44 * telek wonders how much hassle it'd be to make animatable entirely voxel 4d mobs (3d+animation)
05:44 jordan4ibanez lmfao
05:44 Aqua jordan ur turrets r so cool
05:45 jordan4ibanez I know
05:45 Aqua make dispensers
05:45 jordan4ibanez 8    :)
05:45 jordan4ibanez 8  :)
05:45 jordan4ibanez 8 :)
05:45 jordan4ibanez 8)
05:45 * marktraceur so enjoys the WAT talk every time
05:45 Aqua and ur axe thing
05:46 Aqua atom axe?
05:46 telek There's your 'accidental' arson :D
05:46 marktraceur Atom Ant?
05:47 Aqua http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6puzT-EOGho&amp;list=UUgc3zP0FfBqM9yiy6WNFFPw&amp;index=10&amp;feature=plcp
05:48 VanessaE telek: someone already did voxel mobs, non-animated though.  Animating such would be a real bitch I'm sure.  besides, we have real 3d models coming soon thanks to Taoki.
05:49 telek VanessaE: Agreed regarding Taoki's work, but there might be purists who'd like everything as a voxel :D
05:49 * marktraceur imagines it's like the cube pigs from WKUK
05:49 jordan4ibanez No no no
05:49 jordan4ibanez You anchor entities to eachother
05:49 jordan4ibanez give a mob an ID number
05:49 jordan4ibanez each part of the mob has the same ID number
05:49 jordan4ibanez make them work together, anchored to 1 collision box
05:49 jordan4ibanez hence, animated mobs
05:49 Aqua cya
05:50 telek So basically the voxel equivalent of multipart sprites?
05:50 jordan4ibanez Yes
05:50 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: celeron55 already pretty much ruled in the matter, that he wants the idea to be some kind of easily-scriptable model, not something based around cube-ish objects, entities, etc.
05:50 jordan4ibanez Well as long as that's not around, use my method and make mobbies the JORDAN WAY!
05:50 VanessaE but how does one anchor two entities together?
05:51 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: What is this, a sneaker commercial?
05:51 jordan4ibanez You get the position of the main base (the collision detection entity) and position the other extremedies around that
05:51 VanessaE yeah but that's not a true anchor, the server can't keep entities perfectly in sync.
05:52 VanessaE otherwise we'd have done that long ago I'm sure
05:52 jordan4ibanez You can, no one has thought of it though
05:52 VanessaE jeija and I discussed this when building his slimes mob.
05:52 jordan4ibanez I've been saying it till i have been bleu in the face
05:52 jordan4ibanez The server will keep all the entities together, because it will move them all on 1 step
05:53 VanessaE I wanted a cube inside a cube, with the outer one set to water alpha, he said it's not possible because the server can't be trusted to move the two pieces at exactly the same moments.
05:53 VanessaE (so that it would more closely resemble the original minecraft one)
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05:53 telek VanessaE: It should be a burden on the client, not the server. The server should just send them as a series of objects attached to each other.
05:54 jordan4ibanez They can, the server works in ticks, i don't feel like talking about this in depth because it is 1200 hours, but the server can do it
05:54 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: ok, if the server can do it - then prove it :-)
05:54 jordan4ibanez Okay, brb
05:54 VanessaE telek: to a degree yeah the client has to be responsible, but the server still has to execute the movement/positioning code and end the updates to the client.
05:55 VanessaE so both ends would need patches.
05:55 VanessaE s/end/send/
05:55 marktraceur VanessaE: Both sends?
05:55 VanessaE marktraceur: apply that to the previous statement instead :-)
05:55 marktraceur VanessaE: s/and end/and send/
05:56 VanessaE nonono
05:56 VanessaE I didn't supply a /g, so only the first "end" will be caught,.
05:56 telek If the children are simply offset against the central object, rather than having absolute positions themselves, it becomes a non-issue. Client goes 'oh, parent object is at xyz, children should be at xyz+/-(offset)'
05:57 VanessaE telek: right.  it's just that the server and client don't currently have a concept of "parent" and "child" entities.
05:57 VanessaE afaik it's just one exists or it doesn't.
05:58 telek Yeah, then you'd have to kludge it which would mean setting the child nodes in whatever script handles the parent node's movement, so it'd be guaranteed to be finished before the end of the tick.
05:58 VanessaE hm, yeah that might work.
05:59 telek Depends on how objects are handled in the scripting engine and if doing that would have adverse effects elsewhere (I know the overall concepts, just not the particulars to implement them.)
06:01 Dogzilla131 how to you add sound to the game
06:01 VanessaE Dogzilla131: install OpenAL.
06:02 VanessaE the game already has sound.
06:06 Dogzilla131 can somebody give me a site where it shows me how to make a mod
06:06 VanessaE Dogzilla131: you have to learn Lua first.
06:06 VanessaE read other peoples' code
06:06 Dogzilla131 ok then for that
06:07 VanessaE download a simple mod from the forums, anything that just adds a few nodes will do.
06:07 VanessaE go google for info on learning Lua, use that information to make changes to the mod you downloaded to make something new
06:07 VanessaE also, you need the minetest API
06:07 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
06:08 VanessaE this tells how to interface your Lua code to the minetest engine to actually make stuff happen
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06:08 celeron55 < marktraceur> celeron55: Are you interested in putting up more information for new contributors, or has your get-off-my-lawn mentality stuck around? :)
06:08 celeron55 ^ what do you even mean by that?
06:08 VanessaE lol
06:09 marktraceur celeron55: We were chatting about how the engine doesn't have a lot of docs for new contributors, it would be helpful to have some
06:09 mrtux night
06:09 VanessaE night mrtux
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06:13 celeron55 marktraceur: i wonder how many interested people have even found the stuff that does exist
06:14 celeron55 more specifically, this http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=code:inner_workings_of_minetest
06:14 marktraceur celeron55: However many, it's good to A) have it better positioned so it's easier to find and B) have more so people can do more
06:15 jordan4ibanez Hi celeron55
06:17 marktraceur celeron55: It might be good to consolidate the dev-wiki with the user-wiki....not much reason in my opinion to have them so separate. You could use a different namespace for developer docs if you wanted.
06:17 marktraceur (e.g. https://mediawiki.org uses Manual: for developer stuff and Help: for user stuff)
06:19 OldCoder celeron55, Good morning
06:19 OldCoder <celeron55> ^ what do you even mean by that?
06:19 OldCoder It is a U.S. metaphor
06:20 OldCoder Referring to old people
06:20 OldCoder Who do not like noise and confusion
06:20 marktraceur OldCoder: I actually meant it to refer to sometimes grumpy people :)
06:20 OldCoder And?
06:20 OldCoder That is the metaphor
06:20 OldCoder Oh
06:20 OldCoder Young grumpy people too
06:20 OldCoder I C
06:20 marktraceur *nod*
06:20 OldCoder It comes from the metaphor though
06:21 OldCoder Hmm
06:21 OldCoder Idiom not metaphor
06:21 OldCoder <--- fading
06:21 * VanessaE quickly turns up OldCoder's saturation control and turns the alpha down a tad
06:22 OldCoder Heh
06:22 OldCoder Alpha Ralpha Blvd
06:23 OldCoder Good night
06:23 OldCoder Thanksgiving was a sight
06:24 jordan4ibanez Holy shit
06:24 OldCoder Backups done and U.S. worlds up again BTW
06:24 OldCoder Hmm?
06:24 jordan4ibanez I'm actually starting to create what i said
06:24 OldCoder Who would imagine such a thing
06:24 OldCoder Zzz
06:24 OldCoder <--- snoring
06:25 OldCoder away Zzz
06:25 ruskie OldCoder, if I had a VPS(or funds for one) I would certainly volunteer it but sadly I haven't even gotten a VPS for my own needs(but then the box under my desk works reliabily enough)
06:25 celeron55 there is a huge amount of things that i could be doing for the minetest webspace, but i can't allocate the time for it as a hobby, and even if i'd get paid i couldn't get free time from the work i do until summer
06:28 jordan4ibanez Okay here's what i have so far http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6vJDS0Jm
06:28 jordan4ibanez Basically each "mob" would be assigned their own ID and then an anchor would output it's position for that ID and the other ballast entities would follow suit
06:29 jordan4ibanez Not even close to being done btw, so it looks very gritty
06:37 jordan4ibanez Ping
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06:37 VanessaE pong/
06:37 jordan4ibanez lolwut
06:38 VanessaE [11-23 01:37] <jordan4ibanez> Ping
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06:38 VanessaE [11-23 01:37] <VanessaE> pong/
06:38 jordan4ibanez Vanessae: I have created the ability for 2 entities to be linked
06:39 VanessaE how?  with an engine tweak?
06:39 VanessaE how are you gonna force the engine and client to update the linked entities at precisely the same moment?
06:39 jordan4ibanez Very simple
06:40 jordan4ibanez ID dependant
06:41 jordan4ibanez http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=AP8rAn6T
06:41 jordan4ibanez Try it and eat your words
06:42 jordan4ibanez 8    )
06:42 jordan4ibanez 8   :)
06:42 jordan4ibanez Lol, messed it up
06:42 VanessaE show me a video of it in action.
06:43 * telek needs to take a couple weeks and get up to speed with html5.
06:44 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/20bWt7l91LQ
06:44 jordan4ibanez BOOYA
06:45 VanessaE ok, I stand corrected.
06:45 jordan4ibanez 3d mobs are now possible
06:45 VanessaE that's actually not bad at all.
06:46 telek Balloons jordan?
06:46 jordan4ibanez Basic, multi-entity balloon mobs
06:47 telek You need to make those with a chain, rope, or vine hanging off them and make them climbable :D
06:47 jordan4ibanez Here is final code http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=UNz03eXV
06:47 telek I'm on top of the world :D
06:48 jordan4ibanez the entity id is assigned to the base, which is assigned to the ballist, when all external entities are id'd to the anchor's id, the id goes up +1
06:48 jordan4ibanez I g2g very very tires
06:48 jordan4ibanez tired*
06:49 telek I'd be tired too after spending however long on that :D
06:49 Dogzilla131 can somebody give me a website with a code like a vombie or enderfreak
06:50 telek dogzilla131: vombie.lua in the animals_mod?
06:52 VanessaE time to hit the sheets.  night all.
06:52 VanessaE (not that I'll sleep, but it's worth a try)
06:56 * telek waves!
06:56 telek Have a good night Vanessa!
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07:16 marktraceur celeron55: I could try to help organize a documentation sprint somehow, if you think you might be able to drop in and answer sporadic questions for an hour or two (multitasking probably would be OK)
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08:06 jin_xi fuck that part msg
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08:14 jin_xi hey nyuszika7h your part msg is all i ever see of you, and its really long
08:14 nyuszika7h hi
08:15 nyuszika7h it was a quit message actually, and it's 2 lines if your window is big enough
08:15 jin_xi ok, then my window is too small ;)
08:16 * ruskie has quit messages not show in his irc client... nicer that way
08:17 jin_xi yes, i really should try and start to configure irssi a bit
08:23 nyuszika7h lol
08:31 ruskie you can just modify /format quit and /format quit_once
08:31 ruskie to not have the reason in there
09:08 celeron55 marktraceur: most likely yes
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10:15 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3837
10:15 Calinou :)
10:15 Calinou has been tested
10:21 Calinou http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/0.4.x_changelog.txt < updated my personal changelog
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10:26 kotolegokot hi all
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11:18 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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11:43 jin_xi hi Adam
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12:42 TheRedMood Hello
12:43 TheRedMood Long time no see :)
12:43 TheRedMood VanessaE: Long time no see, mrs.
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12:55 TheRedMood Hello neko :)
12:56 NekoGloop Maybe if the rules were in the channel topic?
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13:57 OldCoder Good morning
13:58 OldCoder Which rules? Be patient covers a lot
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14:19 us_0gb Hello!
14:19 OldCoder us_0gb, Hello back
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14:20 KikaRz Hi there :D
14:20 KikaRz good morning
14:20 us_0gb I was told this might be the place to ask about getting changes made to the default plugins?
14:20 redcrab Hi there ... for celeron55 and co. I find out a issue in minetestmapper.py ... I guess I fixed it ... how may I publish it ... (issue with very large map)
14:20 KikaRz *i was telling
14:23 Muadtralk submit a pull request with github?
14:24 redcrab .... Currently generating a map of 8640 x 8640 map .. generation in progress view-able at http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.html  ... (current redcrab 30401 world)
14:25 redcrab pull request on github ... done with "git" command ?
14:25 us_0gb I've been having problems with a firebug using lava to burn down people's houses. I read the fire plugin's API and built a nice solution, but when I tried it, I realized the API was hidden in a local variable, so my solution didn't work. I wrote up a solution that doesn't require access to the API, but it doesn't work nearly as well. Is there any chance of getting that variable switched to global? All it would take is removing the wor
14:25 us_0gb d "local", and everything would be great.
14:30 Muadtralk https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests
14:30 Muadtralk maybe this would help?
14:30 us_0gb Probably. Thanks!
14:31 Muadtralk wait....?
14:31 us_0gb What is it?
14:32 Muadtralk I was trying to help redcrab publish his fix to minetestmapper
14:32 PilzAdam us_0gb, what variable are you talking about?
14:32 us_0gb Oh, well, I think your link will help me to.
14:32 us_0gb *too
14:32 KikaRz Muadtralk :D
14:32 KikaRz hi :)
14:32 Muadtralk ello KikaRz
14:32 KikaRz How are you ? :)
14:33 us_0gb The variable is called "fire", and the whole internal API of the plugin is in it.
14:33 us_0gb Nothing is exposed at all.
14:33 PilzAdam do you only want to override functions?
14:34 us_0gb Right. I need to override one function, to perform an additional check before removing nodes.
14:35 PilzAdam IMO fire.D and fire.sounds should stay hidden
14:35 PilzAdam functions can be global
14:36 us_0gb As long as I don't get stuck with the fire-sound--loop I'm hearing right now, fine.
14:36 us_0gb My messy solution to get around the "local" issue is causeing the fire sound to loop until the server restarts.
14:37 * PilzAdam starts coding
14:38 us_0gb I have a perfectly functional solution, as long as the fire API gets exposed.
14:38 us_0gb I tried it by removing the word "local" from my (no pun intended) local copy of the file.
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14:44 PilzAdam us_0gb, what function(s) do you want to override?
14:45 us_0gb Let me check. I think I just commented out the solution that needed the API, so it should still be there.
14:47 us_0gb I believe it is fire.flame_should_extinguish(). That alone should be enough.
14:48 KikaRz Hi there
14:48 us_0gb Hello!
14:48 john_minetest hi
14:50 PilzAdam us_0gb, is this ok for you? https://gist.github.com/4135966
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14:55 us_0gb Sorry, I'm having trouble reading what the changes are. The purple writing is cryptic to me. I'll download it, and see if it looks like regular Lua.
14:56 PilzAdam wait, i push it to my repo
14:57 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/tree/fire
14:57 PilzAdam redcrab, nice avatar image on GitHub :-)
14:59 us_0gb Yeah, that looks perfect! Thanks!
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15:08 PilzAdam can anybody make animated fire in the default style? (16px, 8-16 frames)
15:08 Muadtralk hmmm
15:08 Muadtralk 8 frames i can do
15:08 us_0gb That would be nice. But I can't draw worth beans.
15:09 Muadtralk looking like default fire
15:09 Muadtralk sure!
15:09 PilzAdam animation lenght will be something like 0.5s and drawtype plantlike
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15:16 redcrab ok ... I ve made the pull request ... but don't know if it is correctly done
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15:16 PilzAdam looks ok
15:17 Muadtralk did it!
15:17 Muadtralk looks awesome
15:17 Muadtralk well ingame atleast it feels kinda like fire
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15:19 redcrab I ve may be did a mistake ... vocabulary : I said "block" for the 16x16x16 "cubes" ...  I don't know but i guess that "block" should be "chunk" and "cubes" be "nodes" ... What is wrong
15:19 babyface1031 hi Penguin
15:19 Penguin hi is server back
15:19 Penguin :)
15:19 Penguin ????
15:19 babyface1031 yes
15:20 PilzAdam block is correct for 16x16x16 nodes
15:20 Muadtralk http://ompldr.org/vZ2Y4NQ/fire_basic_flame_animated.png
15:20 PilzAdam mapblock is also possible
15:20 PilzAdam but not "chunk"; thats MC
15:20 Penguin Fuck Yea what has changed ?
15:20 babyface1031 i will be on in a bit i found a friend i am talking to on his server right now but i will be there
15:20 babyface1031 it went back to the 17th when it was backed up i have to help you remove that machine
15:20 Penguin I am not on cleaning house for my gf
15:21 Penguin oh k
15:21 Muadtralk is this okay pilzadam?
15:21 babyface1031 ok
15:22 PilzAdam Muadtralk, nice!
15:22 PilzAdam License?
15:23 Muadtralk cc-by usually
15:23 Muadtralk but i can license it under anything you wish
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15:27 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/7c6b552cc647ce251033488d62563ab69ce08ed7
15:37 OldCoder babyface1031, Hello
15:37 babyface1031 hi OldCoder
15:38 OldCoder ruskie, I've made tentative arrangements for a replacement Europe server in Germany
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15:49 OldCoder Jordach, Hi
15:49 Jordach hello OldCoder
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15:56 KikaRz Hi OldCoder
15:56 KikaRz Hi Dogzilla
15:56 KikaRz hi iqualfragile
15:56 OldCoder KikaRz, Hello
15:56 OldCoder anunakki, speal
15:56 OldCoder anunakki, speak *
15:57 anunakki hello
15:57 anunakki sure
15:57 OldCoder anunakki, Can you assist?
15:57 OldCoder anunakki, PM please
15:57 anunakki ok
15:59 OldCoder anunakki, I have PMd you
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16:04 RealBadAngel hellou Minetest
16:04 RealBadAngel wassup?
16:04 PilzAdam sup RBA
16:04 RealBadAngel weekend
16:05 PilzAdam yay!
16:05 PilzAdam a texture-weekend?
16:05 RealBadAngel just got back from work and some shopping after it
16:05 RealBadAngel lol
16:05 RealBadAngel i will make them this weekend
16:06 RealBadAngel sorry last days i had barely some time to be at the computer
16:06 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hi!
16:07 RealBadAngel look i today, 4 am woke up, 5am off, 5pm back
16:07 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Europe server may be back shortly. And there may be a new one soon.
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16:07 RealBadAngel too tired to even write corect ;)
16:07 RealBadAngel OldCoder, superb
16:07 Jordach ITZ A GERMAHN SERRVERR
16:08 Jordach (me likes changing voices)
16:08 RealBadAngel jawohl!
16:08 OldCoder Indeed
16:09 RealBadAngel == genau
16:09 PilzAdam So, wir reden ab jetzt Deutsch?
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16:09 RealBadAngel warum nicht?
16:10 PilzAdam 80& der Community sind sowiso Deutsch und verestehen das hier
16:10 PilzAdam *80%
16:11 * Jordach is making a Mr. Monopoly skin
16:11 RealBadAngel bist du sicher? 80%?
16:11 RealBadAngel ick glaub das nicht
16:11 PilzAdam Kommt mir manchmal so vor
16:11 Shadow_crazy wath create server?
16:11 redcrab ?????
16:12 Shadow_crazy como cria server
16:12 redcrab ????
16:12 RealBadAngel aber deustch bitte...
16:13 Shadow_crazy wath creat server minetest 0.4.3
16:13 Jordach redcrab - we have german speaking right now
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16:14 RealBadAngel just kidding, PilzAdam i started to make my own version of inventory
16:15 RealBadAngel its gonna be a replace for single/creative, and is compilation of 5 mods + additions
16:16 RealBadAngel 3/4 of work is done by now
16:16 PilzAdam Lua only?
16:16 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/inv.png
16:16 RealBadAngel yup
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16:17 * Jordach spots MC in the terminal sessiob
16:17 Jordach *n
16:17 RealBadAngel hmm hi hmmm
16:17 RealBadAngel Jordach, to have debug output
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16:18 RealBadAngel Taoki, are you there?
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16:23 Dogzilla131 can somebody help me define a dexture
16:23 Dogzilla131 *texture
16:24 PilzAdam tiles = {"your_texture_name.png"},
16:28 RealBadAngel do we have master volume control or not?
16:28 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L126
16:29 OldCoder Europe VPS returning in a few minutes
16:29 ruskie yay
16:29 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, but this is for all of the sounds?
16:30 PilzAdam yes
16:30 RealBadAngel no matter music, farting etc...
16:30 PilzAdam yea
16:31 RealBadAngel shall i duplicate play sound and add play music to get (and introduce) two volumes?
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16:31 OldCoder artur99, Hi
16:31 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, no
16:32 artur99 hi
16:32 anunakki hello artur99
16:32 artur99 why europe server isnt working?
16:33 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, to mute music and have sounds?
16:33 PilzAdam or maybe its a good idea
16:33 PilzAdam maybe: master, music, other
16:34 RealBadAngel having ambiance mod make music player well not workin good
16:34 RealBadAngel channels shall be introduced i think
16:35 RealBadAngel #env, #default_music, #ext_music
16:35 RealBadAngel or somethin this way
16:35 PilzAdam do not split music
16:35 PilzAdam mods can define their own music setting
16:35 RealBadAngel yup
16:35 PilzAdam just default music
16:35 RealBadAngel so thats why 2nd music channel
16:36 RealBadAngel ambience can be 1st
16:36 RealBadAngel 2nd addons
16:36 artur99 music player mod is a new mod?
16:36 RealBadAngel old as hell
16:37 artur99 and dose it have erors?
16:37 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AILyujYsCnU&amp;feature=plcp
16:37 RealBadAngel 3 months ago
16:37 artur99 aaa
16:37 RealBadAngel none im aware of
16:37 artur99 and now is working?
16:38 RealBadAngel of course
16:38 RealBadAngel just put music files in technic /media directory
16:38 artur99 and why the europe server isnt workin
16:38 anunakki OldCoder and I are working on the europe server right now, i'm not sure what the status is 100% but he should know
16:38 artur99 g?
16:38 artur99 aaa
16:38 RealBadAngel because we are using ambiance mod
16:39 RealBadAngel and theres no way to mute one and listen to another
16:39 artur99 and when will u and oldcoder finish working there?
16:41 OldCoder A few minutes
16:41 OldCoder artur99, there may be a problem related to Romania
16:42 OldCoder We may need to discuss this in the future
16:42 OldCoder ruskie says the server slows down when you connect
16:42 OldCoder A network issue of some time
16:42 artur99 aaa, and on this problem are u working...
16:42 OldCoder * some type
16:42 OldCoder No; on repairing the world after a crash
16:42 OldCoder ruskie, are you here?
16:42 artur99 me?
16:43 artur99 i think the server slows because there are more players on it
16:43 OldCoder artur99, We will test
16:43 OldCoder artur99, I will also make another Europe server
16:44 artur99 when?
16:44 OldCoder Possibly in December
16:44 artur99 aaa
16:45 artur99 now is europe server disponible?
16:45 OldCoder Hmm?
16:45 OldCoder That is not a word
16:45 artur99 realy?
16:45 artur99 *accesible
16:45 Jordach dispensible == dispinsible
16:45 OldCoder Disponible
16:45 OldCoder No
16:45 OldCoder But we may need to move it
16:46 OldCoder artur99, ruskie, Jordach:
16:46 Jordach hm?
16:46 OldCoder I need people to look for patterns of timeouts
16:46 Jordach mhm
16:46 * Jordach is getting an iPad
16:46 Jordach (i wont be here much more for one week)
16:46 OldCoder k
16:46 artur99 can i try to connect?
16:46 OldCoder Soon
16:46 Jordach OldCoder - i'll start using a web irc client for a while
16:46 OldCoder Everything is in order
16:46 OldCoder Jordach, k
16:46 Jordach (until i can get to my tower again)
16:46 artur99 ok
16:48 ruskie I'm here
16:49 artur99 can i play on a lan connection?
16:49 Jordach yes
16:50 artur99 how?
16:51 OldCoder
16:51 OldCoder Attention: Europe VPS is up again for now. We regret any inconvenience.
16:51 OldCoder Report patterns of network timeouts
16:51 OldCoder See if they happen when many people come; or if they are tied to a particular county
16:51 OldCoder *country
16:51 OldCoder A new Europe VPS may arrive in the future
16:51 OldCoder Have fun!
16:51 OldCoder
16:52 artur99 oldcoder, can u test now if the server is lower when i connect?
16:52 OldCoder No... I think ruskie needs to and he is AFK. We will need to look for patterns over time.
16:52 OldCoder For now, go play and see what happens for you
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16:53 artur99 what is afk?
16:53 artur99 :D
16:53 ruskie I'm on
16:54 ruskie no issue so far
16:55 ruskie and I have lag
16:55 ruskie seems to happen and go away
16:56 ruskie and now ok
16:56 OldCoder artur99, AFK means Away From keyboard
16:56 OldCoder artur99, ruskie: When anunakki returns...
16:56 artur99 aaa
16:56 OldCoder say hello and thank you
16:56 OldCoder It is his server
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16:57 OldCoder Don't jump to conclusions about lag. I will build new code in December and we will see.
16:57 OldCoder anunakki, welcome back
16:57 OldCoder People are enjoying the world again
16:57 anunakki perfect
16:57 ruskie thanks
16:57 anunakki glad we could get that out of the way
16:58 ruskie hmm still laggy
16:58 ruskie I craft a ton of torches... and watch getting 4 every few seconds instead of each click
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17:04 ruskie well crafting seems to lag and some loading of areas but so far seems ok... will report if anything else happens odd
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17:08 rubenwardy hi all
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17:09 ecube hey
17:10 ruskie OldCoder, can you check if anything weird is happening
17:10 ruskie OldCoder, I've been laying down blocks and I still have the same amount of them in my inventory
17:11 KikaRz O_O'
17:11 rubenwardy thexyz: you can close http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=52991 now
17:11 KikaRz Going to change XChat Theme
17:12 ruskie OldCoder, artur's brother joined... I've now tried a exit to OS and my game is stuck on shuting down stuff
17:12 KikaRz Ctrl + C
17:12 KikaRz In the console
17:13 ruskie no shit sherlock... trying to figure out what's actually causing it
17:14 * RealBadAngel is havin pizza time
17:15 KikaRz joined #minetest
17:15 Calinou "You can merge this Pull Request by running: git pull https://github.com/redcrab/minetest master"
17:15 Calinou github emails
17:15 xy joined #minetest
17:15 Calinou y u think i have write access
17:15 KikaRz back
17:15 doserj joined #minetest
17:15 Calinou wb
17:15 Renoki joined #minetest
17:15 RealBadAngel you, who?
17:15 RealBadAngel hi calinou
17:16 M13_ joined #minetest
17:16 KikaRz so
17:16 KikaRz what are you doing guys?
17:17 Calinou nothing right now
17:17 RealBadAngel we are not doing guys
17:17 M13_ KikaRz did you want to play on my server?
17:17 KikaRz depends.
17:17 Renoki Hey guys, heard a lot about Minetest on 4chan, about to try it out now.
17:17 KikaRz im good at building
17:18 RealBadAngel im havin a pizza
17:18 KikaRz Renoki
17:18 KikaRz Enter on the Website and start playing :)
17:18 Calinou openarena now :)
17:18 KikaRz http://minetest.net
17:18 Calinou (server is normal CTF for stupids)
17:18 Calinou no insult, it's the name of the server :P
17:18 M13_ you can come KikaRz its creative
17:18 KikaRz what a fucking good name.
17:18 KikaRz M13
17:18 KikaRz IP.
17:19 KikaRz I got many original ideas :)
17:19 Renoki do all servers run on the latest?
17:19 OldCoder M13_, Hi
17:19 Renoki 0.4.3, right?
17:19 OldCoder Renoki, no
17:19 ruskie OldCoder, hmm now I can't connect at all
17:19 KikaRz Downloading OpenArena
17:19 OldCoder ruskie, That is interesting
17:19 M13_ IP : m13.servegame.com  Port : 30001
17:19 KikaRz Yes Renoki.
17:19 OldCoder ruskie, But is it Romania? Or something else
17:19 KikaRz M13_
17:19 OldCoder ruskie, If they disconnect will you work?
17:19 KikaRz let me just download OpenArena
17:20 OldCoder 18:20:03: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 213.233.92.96:65302(t/o=3): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=3753
17:20 Renoki uh..
17:20 * RealBadAngel is in the mood for some headshots
17:20 OldCoder I am getting those again
17:20 ruskie OldCoder, well when I was on artur99 joined and was able to play... then his brother joined and I could plaoce stuff but my inventory didn't get updated
17:20 KikaRz M13_, im going soon OK?
17:20 OldCoder M13_, PM today
17:20 M13_ ok ill be on
17:20 Renoki oh derp, it's in /bin
17:21 OldCoder ruskie, let's see if it works if they leave
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17:21 OldCoder ruskie, I can turn Romania off and on but not today; I need to work IRL now for a while
17:21 ruskie not a prob
17:21 OldCoder 18:21:32: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 84.20.228.4:39180(t/o=0.73657): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=2
17:21 OldCoder 18:21:33: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 84.20.228.4:39180(t/o=0.957542): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=2
17:21 OldCoder Hmm
17:21 OldCoder Now I see those. Is 84.20.228.4 you?
17:21 ruskie yup
17:21 ruskie I disconnecet
17:21 RealBadAngel Oldcoder, you want to disable Taoki for example?
17:21 ruskie but got hung during disconnect
17:22 OldCoder RealBadAngel, explain
17:22 OldCoder Here is a test
17:22 RealBadAngel shes from Romania
17:22 OldCoder Is she on?
17:22 Renoki holy crap
17:22 OldCoder ?
17:22 RealBadAngel no
17:22 Renoki this game is smooooooooth compared to Minecraft
17:22 OldCoder Renoki, except for network timeouts
17:22 KikaRz ...
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17:22 KikaRz Renoki, it's a clone.
17:23 Doc22 hello peoplez
17:23 ruskie RealBadAngel, can you connect to europe?
17:23 OldCoder ruskie, RealBadAngel no point in disconnecting Taoki
17:23 OldCoder Doc22, hi
17:23 Doc22 hey oc
17:23 OldCoder ruskie, RealBadAngel I will restart Europe now
17:23 Calinou <KikaRz> Downloading OpenArena
17:23 Calinou cool :D
17:23 Calinou for those who want it btw, website is openarena.ws
17:23 OldCoder Allow a few minutes
17:23 OldCoder I will be here now all day but can't work here much; I am researching MySQL IRL
17:24 OldCoder Whoa!
17:24 M13_ what is OpenArena?
17:24 OldCoder ruskie, RealBadAngel I am seeing 107% CPU!
17:24 OldCoder What does *that* mean?
17:25 ruskie is it multicore?
17:25 OldCoder Nope
17:25 OldCoder VPS
17:25 RealBadAngel yore facin a birth of a small cpu?
17:25 OldCoder Hmm
17:25 OldCoder Maybe timeouts are a different issue
17:25 ruskie could possibly be a VPS artifact but sounds like an infinite loop or something
17:26 RealBadAngel or 7% just new born little cute core
17:26 OldCoder Time is 33:37 already
17:26 ruskie maybe it's time to do that leveldb migration?
17:26 OldCoder Yep
17:26 RealBadAngel agree
17:26 OldCoder But can't until next week. I really do need to work.
17:27 OldCoder Somebody is waiting for me right now in Finland
17:27 ruskie then go do work
17:27 OldCoder Soon as we settle the current issue. This is odd.
17:27 OldCoder Ah
17:27 OldCoder there we go
17:27 OldCoder Restarted and CPU back down
17:27 OldCoder Let's see what triggers that!
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17:27 ruskie connecting
17:28 ruskie and I'm on
17:28 OdnetninI Hi all
17:28 OldCoder ruskie, RealBadAngel I think it's that we're near the limits of what this VPS can do
17:28 OldCoder OdnetninI, Hi!
17:28 OdnetninI can anyone say me how to solve this:
17:28 OdnetninI http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6829/screenshot776851868.png
17:28 Renoki how often is this game updated?
17:28 OdnetninI the space in cactus
17:28 OdnetninI and error messages
17:29 Renoki also, are the developers trying to make an exact Minecraft clone?
17:29 PilzAdam OdnetninI, the textures for the cactus have transparent pixels at the side; remove them
17:29 PilzAdam Renoki, no
17:29 ruskie OldCoder, well artur, his bro and me are now on
17:29 OldCoder And CPU > 100%
17:29 OdnetninI I want to reduce the size of cactus
17:30 PilzAdam you need to use nodebox for that
17:30 OldCoder ruskie, If problems persist I see migration to another VPS as the main option though we'll try LevelDB
17:30 PilzAdam and even for that you have to remove the transparent pixels
17:31 ruskie yeah I'm locked up again
17:31 ruskie I can place blocks but inventory doesn't do anything
17:31 OdnetninI this?
17:31 OdnetninI {     -- A fixed box (facedir param2 is used, if applicable)     type = "fixed",     fixed = box OR {box1, box2, ...} }
17:31 ruskie I'll wait a bit
17:31 ruskie see if it clears up
17:31 PilzAdam OdnetninI, @errormessages: you call minetestn.env:set_node() with a node that doesnt exist
17:32 PilzAdam OdnetninI, this: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1359
17:32 PilzAdam and drawtype "nodebox"
17:32 ruskie OldCoder, anything in the "top" cpu line? is it waiting for something or something else
17:32 OldCoder Elaborate on waiting
17:33 ruskie (s):  5.6%us,  2.1%sy,  3.2%ni, 88.9%id,  0.1%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st <-- wa is wait time
17:33 ruskie which of those is actually being used
17:33 OdnetninI any form to know who is the node that doesn't exist?
17:33 OldCoder Reviewing
17:33 OldCoder Cpu(s): 27.5%us,  4.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 68.2%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
17:33 OldCoder Oops
17:33 OldCoder Wrong window
17:33 ruskie heh
17:34 PilzAdam OdnetninI, check your code ;-); you probably misstyped something
17:34 OldCoder Cpu(s): 46.5%us, 13.8%sy,  0.0%ni, 39.4%id,  0.4%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
17:34 OldCoder ruskie, ^
17:34 OdnetninI mmm
17:34 ruskie odd
17:34 ruskie that seems mostly normal
17:35 ruskie a high wait time could signify an I/O issue or something
17:35 ruskie but this looks just "it's working"
17:35 ruskie RealBadAngel, can you connect to europe atm?
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17:38 KikaRz people
17:38 KikaRz why in one server
17:38 KikaRz im frozen in node definition?
17:38 OldCoder What server
17:38 KikaRz m13
17:38 RealBadAngel i cant
17:38 KikaRz not uour
17:38 KikaRz *your
17:38 KikaRz '-'
17:38 RealBadAngel is down
17:39 Jordach KikaRz - when in doubt - keep calm and sloooowwwww down
17:39 OdnetninI node_box = {3.5, 3.5, 3.5, 3.5, 3.5, 3.5},
17:39 OdnetninI it doesn't work
17:41 OdnetninI any help?
17:41 PilzAdam {-0.5,-0.5,-0.5,0.5,0.5,0.5} is the default size
17:42 KikaRz LOL
17:42 PilzAdam also you node is 0 dimensional
17:42 PilzAdam *your
17:44 OdnetninI -- Cactus minetest.register_node("default:cactus", { description = "Cactus", tiles = {"default_cactus_top.png", "default_cactus_top.png", "default_cactus_side.png"}, is_ground_content = true, node_box = {-0.0,-0.0,-0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0}, groups = {snappy=2,choppy=3,flammable=2}, sounds = default.node_sound_wood_defaults(), })
17:44 OdnetninI I tryes many sizes
17:44 OdnetninI but nothing
17:44 Kacey joined #minetest
17:44 Kacey hello
17:44 KikaRz Welcome Kacey :)
17:45 Kacey i am working on a new mod
17:45 KikaRz Kacey
17:45 PilzAdam OdnetninI, you should read a bit to understand how nodeboxes work
17:45 KikaRz do not work into 10 mods at the same time
17:45 KikaRz just in 1
17:45 KikaRz it ll give you more time to do
17:45 Kacey i am only working on one right now
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17:55 OdnetninI I got the size, but i have black nodes
17:56 PilzAdam paramtype = "light",
17:57 OdnetninI Same
17:57 RealBadAngel rba.groups={bed=1}
17:57 artur99 joined #minetest
17:57 RealBadAngel cya
17:58 hmmmm Everybody's partyin' partyin'
17:58 hmmmm YEAH!
17:58 hmmmm partyin' partyin' YEAH!
17:58 hmmmm fun, fun, fun, fun having fun on the weekend
17:58 OdnetninI PilzAdam, the same result
17:58 PilzAdam no
17:58 RBA_bedtime stop stomping :P trying to get some sleep :P
17:58 hmmmm it's Rebecca Black Friday everyone
17:59 artur99 now europe server isnt working on my computer
17:59 OdnetninI no?
18:00 artur99 no
18:00 OldCoder Is it working for others?
18:00 OdnetninI no what?
18:00 OldCoder 19:00:28: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 213.233.92.96:19352(t/o=3): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=65508
18:00 OldCoder 19:00:29: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 213.233.92.96:19352(t/o=3): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=65507
18:00 OldCoder I see those timeouts
18:00 OldCoder It is network issue again
18:01 artur99 on my pc?
18:01 artur99 what should i do?
18:01 ruskie OldCoder, no
18:01 OldCoder ruskie, You are not able to connect?
18:01 ruskie no
18:02 ruskie OldCoder, see some 30 minutes ago in the chat log here
18:02 OldCoder CPU is at 100%
18:02 OldCoder Reviewing
18:02 OdnetninI ok, now i solve it
18:02 ruskie ups
18:02 OldCoder ruskie, I saw that
18:02 OldCoder Not clear on point
18:02 OldCoder CPU is at 125% now
18:02 OldCoder Hmm!
18:02 OldCoder TIME is at 45:03.80
18:03 OldCoder That can't be right
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18:03 OldCoder What is it doing?
18:03 ruskie maybe attach strace to it?
18:03 OldCoder Cpu(s): 48.1%us,  8.8%sy,  0.0%ni, 43.1%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
18:03 OldCoder Yes
18:03 OldCoder But can't do that today
18:04 OldCoder Theory...
18:04 OldCoder We are slipping into an odd High CPU state
18:04 OldCoder PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
18:04 OldCoder 3494 root      20   0  160m  50m 3736 S  142 10.3  46:59.83 minetestserver
18:04 artur99 so i cant play anymore today?
18:04 OldCoder Thoughts on those two lines?
18:04 OldCoder artur99, wait
18:04 artur99 ok
18:04 OldCoder Am I right? Is the 46:59 very odd?
18:05 OldCoder Really bizarre CPU usage
18:05 OldCoder Could this be a VPS glitch?
18:05 Calinou your VPS has several threads then
18:05 OldCoder Probably
18:05 Calinou you can have one physical CPU and several "threads" (as in virtual cores)
18:05 OldCoder artur99, could you stay off for a while?
18:05 Calinou my netbook has one physical CPU, two threads, iirc
18:06 Calinou hyperthreading
18:06 Calinou and my desktop too :P
18:06 OldCoder I'd like ruskie to try when you're not there
18:06 OldCoder yes
18:06 artur99 ofcorse
18:06 OldCoder One theory
18:06 OldCoder Is that network is failing and then looping somehow
18:06 OldCoder ruskie, Restarting again
18:07 OldCoder ruskie, If you are here connect now for a while
18:07 ruskie connecting
18:07 OldCoder artur99, end the game for today
18:07 OldCoder We need to test
18:07 artur99 ok
18:07 OldCoder There will be a new VPS if needed
18:07 OldCoder But I need to find out what is happening
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18:08 OldCoder Dogzilla131, wb
18:08 ruskie OldCoder, well I'm on and am able to build... I'll run for a while
18:09 OldCoder Possible network bug
18:09 OldCoder C55 has a patch I need to try
18:11 artur99 now is working :)
18:11 artur99 :D
18:15 OldCoder artur99, we wished you not to connect. This is a test.
18:15 OldCoder ruskie, let me know what happens
18:15 ruskie well so far it's working
18:15 OldCoder Yes
18:15 OldCoder But there are no changes
18:15 OldCoder So it could go at any time
18:15 ruskie both artur and his brother are on
18:15 OldCoder Let me know
18:15 OldCoder Hmm
18:15 OldCoder odd
18:16 artur99 so must i disconnect?
18:17 OldCoder Not yet
18:17 OldCoder See what happens
18:18 artur99 i disconected... should i connect again?
18:18 OldCoder Go ahead
18:18 OldCoder For the moment
18:21 ruskie so far everything seems to be working
18:22 Jordach lolFirewall errors
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18:29 Jordach hay NekoGloop
18:30 NekoGloop Jordach: Hello.
18:30 Jordach PMC laggin again
18:30 NekoGloop Wut?
18:31 Jordach planetmc
18:31 NekoGloop Ah.
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18:40 Kacey hello
18:41 Kacey did doc leave?
18:44 cosarara97 joined #minetest
18:44 Kacey wb
18:44 redcrab hi... redcrab's server map generation is expanded now ... from 3000x3000 to 8640x8640 ...  viewable at http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.html ... takes time to download ...
18:44 Jordach oh damn
18:44 Jordach also http://i.imgur.com/XkY1B.png
18:45 Jordach Y U ADD NEW PUN BOT MESSAGE
18:45 Kacey lol
18:45 KikaRz M13 left :(
18:45 Kacey FTW!!!!!! sorry what?
18:46 rubenwardy oh dear: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/website/ext/help/help.jpeg
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18:50 ruskie OldCoder, I think it's happening again
18:50 OldCoder ruskie, Reviewing
18:50 artur99 yes
18:50 artur99 to me too
18:50 OldCoder Yep
18:51 OldCoder CPU at 128%
18:51 OldCoder and... Hold on
18:51 OldCoder 19:49:48: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 213.233.92.96:44431(t/o=3): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=8
18:51 OldCoder 19:49:49: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 213.233.92.96:44431(t/o=3): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=7
18:51 OldCoder This again
18:51 KikaRz who is M13_ friend?
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18:51 OldCoder artur99, would you mind leaving for the day?
18:51 Calinou madchicken13
18:51 OldCoder Also known as Ubuntu Nerd
18:51 KikaRz yep
18:51 KikaRz i know
18:51 KikaRz ubuntu nerd = m13 owner.
18:52 KikaRz he was offering me a server *-*
18:52 OldCoder Not exactly
18:52 ruskie OldCoder, interesting... I got the message that the server is shutting down
18:52 OldCoder ruskie, I restarted
18:52 OldCoder Next step
18:52 OldCoder is for artur99 to stay off
18:52 OldCoder I wish to see if Romania timeouts are doing this
18:52 artur99 im here
18:53 OldCoder artur99, stay off the server for now please
18:53 artur99 so should i close the game for now?
18:53 OldCoder This is an experiment
18:53 artur99 ok
18:53 OldCoder Yes please
18:53 OldCoder No more today
18:53 artur99 ok
18:53 OldCoder ruskie, ready to try again; proceed
18:53 OldCoder Simply build for an hour
18:53 ruskie will do
18:54 OldCoder iulyus01 is there
18:54 OldCoder artur99, is that your brother?
18:54 OldCoder artur99, can you pull him off?
18:54 artur99 now he is out
18:54 OldCoder He still shows up there
18:54 OldCoder Sign him out please
18:54 OldCoder O.K.
18:55 OldCoder Let us try for an hour without Romania
18:55 artur99 on his computer, the game isnt opened
18:55 Kacey iririririririririririr
18:57 artur99 oldcoder, can i play on lan with my brother?
18:57 Calinou yes
18:57 Calinou run server on brother's computer: go to advanced menu, put no address and port 30000
18:57 Calinou once the server is started, type "ipconfig" in windows' command line on brother computer
18:58 Calinou note the "IPV4 IP"
18:58 Calinou go to your computer, enter that IP, port 30000
18:58 Calinou connect :)
18:58 OldCoder artur99, Sure
18:58 artur99 thanks
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18:58 Kacey uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh freaking errors
19:01 artur99 calinou, where is the windows command line?
19:02 NekoGloop artur99: run cmd.exe
19:02 Kacey type in cmd in the run menu
19:02 NekoGloop You fool.
19:02 artur99 aaa
19:02 Kacey who wants to help make a nuclear disaster map?
19:03 artur99 tahnks, is working
19:04 KikaRz hey
19:04 KikaRz whats jungle wood planks code?
19:04 KikaRz need that for worldedit
19:05 Kacey Calinou created the mod for that
19:05 OdnetninI PilzAdam, in your farming mod, rarity-p, what is it?
19:06 OdnetninI in hoes.lua
19:08 PilzAdam every seed has a rarity (rarity) and every hoe has a different probability to get seeds (p)
19:08 OdnetninI ok
19:08 OdnetninI thanks
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19:09 OdnetninI who was making a new mapgen?
19:09 PilzAdam hmmmm
19:09 hmmmm me
19:09 OdnetninI how do you go?
19:10 hmmmm i'm still working on it
19:10 hmmmm just been busy
19:10 hmmmm i just need to debug it a little, but the code is all done
19:10 OdnetninI ok
19:11 OdnetninI when do you need a tester, i'm here
19:11 hmmmm sure
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19:12 hmmmm agrh okay, back
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19:15 KikaRz m13 offline
19:15 KikaRz omg
19:16 OldCoder omg?
19:17 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/7xNV9.png
19:18 KikaRz Hate when servers shut down and dont give us any message
19:19 KikaRz Fez = ?
19:19 KikaRz Tassam = ?
19:19 KikaRz *Tassel
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19:30 OdnetninI how can i do this:
19:30 OdnetninI inventory_image = "tools/default_tool_stonesword.png",
19:30 OdnetninI it give me an error
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19:31 KikaRz m13, please relogin :'(
19:31 KikaRz omg
19:31 KikaRz he's offline
19:31 OldCoder omg?
19:31 KikaRz * [hmmmm] is logged in as hmmmm
19:32 OdnetninI any suggestion to load img in subfolder?
19:34 OdnetninI ?
19:35 OdnetninI anyone?
19:45 artur99 @oldcoder, finish thesting?
19:45 OldCoder ruskie, still there?
19:45 OldCoder artur99, checking
19:45 ruskie yeah I'll log off
19:45 OldCoder ruskie, wait
19:45 OldCoder Not yet
19:45 OldCoder artur99, rejoin now
19:45 OldCoder ruskie, let's see if things break when they come back
19:45 OldCoder artur99, your brother can come too
19:46 artur99 right now
19:47 OldCoder Sure
19:47 OldCoder Play and see if it breaks
19:47 ruskie well already broke for me
19:47 ruskie can't dig
19:47 artur99 ok
19:47 artur99 cut on me still loading
19:48 artur99 *but
19:48 ruskie or could just be mining drill
19:48 artur99 :)
19:48 ruskie hmm nope
19:48 ruskie just dug up a bunch of sand and no update in my inventor
19:48 ruskie y
19:49 OldCoder ruskie, So there is definitely an issue?
19:49 ruskie yeah now I'll stay off and let them be on and see if something happens
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19:49 ruskie seems like the server is blocking again
19:50 anunnaki hmm
19:50 anunnaki what exactly is it blocking?
19:50 artur99 i cant connect
19:50 anunnaki i'll have to check
19:50 artur99 connecting to server
19:50 ruskie well I went off now
19:50 ruskie I won't connect for today
19:50 ruskie so that we can see if just artur and his brother on it works fine
19:50 ruskie OldCoder, I think you'll need to restart it
19:51 artur99 on me is connecting to server, but isnt loading...
19:51 OldCoder ruskie, all right
19:51 OldCoder artur99, hold on
19:51 artur99 ok
19:52 OldCoder anunnaki, are you logged in there?
19:52 OldCoder I see somebody in nano
19:52 rubenwardy left #minetest
19:53 rubenwardy joined #minetest
19:53 OldCoder And *nano* is taking half the CPU?!
19:53 ruskie if it's doing syntax highlighting it could
19:53 OldCoder killed it
19:54 ruskie could have checked with 'w'
19:54 ruskie to see who was running it
19:54 OldCoder Not the user
19:54 OldCoder Restarting\
19:55 artur99 you should harry up with the new server :)
19:55 OldCoder artur99, I have work to do IRL
19:55 OldCoder artur99, you can join now
19:55 OldCoder So can Julius
19:55 artur99 ok
19:55 OldCoder Tell me if it breaks for you
19:56 OldCoder If it breaks, I am sorry; but this means a problem for Romania
19:56 OldCoder In that case you can try the Germany server later on
19:56 artur99 now is loading
19:57 OldCoder k
19:57 artur99 working fine
19:57 artur99 is ok now
19:57 artur99 just 0.5 secondl lately, but working
19:59 ruskie artur99, in case it stops  working just report it in here
19:59 KikaRz 3x7r471n6 0p3n 4R3N4
20:00 artur99 ok
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20:01 artur99 happens this:
20:02 KikaRz OpenArena IS TOOO MUCH LAGGY
20:02 artur99 when i dig something, that block dispears
20:02 artur99 and than apears
20:02 artur99 and than dispear
20:04 john_minetest 3x7r471n6 0p3n 4R3N4? Isn't it 3x7r4<71n6 0p3n 4R3N4
20:05 OldCoder artur99, ?
20:05 OldCoder artur99, I don't think Romania will work for this server
20:05 OldCoder Checking the logs now
20:06 artur99 but this happends just 1 of 10 block, but others are working
20:06 OldCoder artur99, try this for now
20:06 OldCoder artur99, Turn on Full Range Viewing
20:06 OldCoder using the R key if it is not already on
20:06 OldCoder Does this help?
20:07 artur99 waiat to try
20:07 OldCoder artur99, Turn on Full Range Viewing
20:07 OldCoder using the R key if it is not already on
20:07 OldCoder Does this help?
20:07 artur99 yes
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20:07 artur99 nows working perfect
20:07 OldCoder Hmm
20:08 artur99 or not
20:08 artur99 that bug again
20:09 artur99 dispear. after 0.5 sec apear. after 0.5 sec dispear forever, and apear in interviory
20:09 artur99 but not at all blocks
20:10 OldCoder Checking
20:10 OldCoder Not seeing the problem in logs
20:11 rubenwardy What do you guys think?
20:11 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/website/
20:11 artur99 my brother dosent have this nug...
20:11 artur99 probably i have a low ram...
20:11 artur99 i have windows 7, with 3 gb ram...
20:13 OldCoder 3GB?
20:13 OldCoder artur99, that is a lot of RAM
20:13 artur99 my brother have 6
20:14 OldCoder artur99, that is a lot of RAM!
20:14 artur99 gb
20:14 artur99 yes, but windows 7 is taking 2 gb just for rulling windows
20:15 OldCoder Hmm
20:15 OldCoder Ugh
20:15 OldCoder O.K. Could be an issue
20:15 Jordach rubenwardy forums work alright
20:16 Jordach looks good too
20:16 OldCoder Jordach, I will probably use that theme for my MT site
20:16 OldCoder And may merge parts with rubenwardy
20:16 OldCoder Not sure about running PunBB yet. I'd need admins.
20:18 rubenwardy you do not need to, you can disable the top-right login bit
20:19 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/Minetest-Website/blob/master/README.md#punbb
20:19 Jordach OldCoder - first for mod
20:20 rubenwardy http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=53194
20:20 artur99 @oldcoder, my brother is blocked, he cant move
20:22 rubenwardy lol: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=446470425400153&amp;set=a.200542726659592.50788.199098633470668&amp;type=1&amp;theater
20:22 rubenwardy gtg now
20:24 OldCoder artur99, Blocked how?
20:24 OldCoder artur99, Does he need to be teleported?
20:24 artur99 he reconneceted
20:24 OldCoder And?
20:24 artur99 now is connecting
20:25 OldCoder k
20:25 * OldCoder will be away for 10 minutes
20:25 artur99 but, isnt loading
20:25 OldCoder artur99, I am checking
20:25 OldCoder He timed out
20:25 OldCoder artur99, I fear that your Internet is not up to this server
20:25 OldCoder I see the network problem again
20:25 OldCoder 21:24:49: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 213.233.92.96:65435(t/o=3): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=65524
20:25 OldCoder
20:26 OldCoder I am sorry but I don't think it will work for you two
20:26 OldCoder You can try the Germany server if I set it up
20:26 artur99 our speed is 15 kb/sec for both
20:26 OldCoder Explain to your brother Julius that both of you are welcome; but I am afraid you probably can't play here
20:26 OldCoder 15 kb/sec ?
20:26 OldCoder Is that normal for you?
20:26 artur99 so my is 7kb/sec and he's too
20:27 OldCoder Is that normal for you?
20:27 OldCoder Is this dialup?
20:27 artur99 yyes
20:27 OldCoder !!
20:27 OldCoder artur99, I am sorry
20:27 OldCoder You cannot play Minetest reliably with dialup
20:27 OldCoder You will need to play offline
20:27 Jordach but it shows how bandwidth friendly it is
20:27 OldCoder Yes
20:28 OldCoder It certainly does!
20:28 OldCoder Jordach, I must take a break
20:28 artur99 but in every month on 8 i have 4 gb trafic with big speed
20:28 OldCoder For how long, artur99 ?
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20:28 artur99 on 8 in every month i have that trafic
20:28 OldCoder Jordach, I need to take a short break; can you figure out what he is saying? Thank you
20:28 OldCoder Jordach, ^
20:28 OldCoder 8 what?
20:28 artur99 when i finish it, i have the connection with 15 kb
20:28 Jordach yes, dont need to hl twice
20:29 OldCoder ruskie, problem is that artur99 and julius are dialup!
20:29 artur99 day 8
20:29 OldCoder artur99, you can't use dialup for the server; I am sorry
20:29 artur99 what is dialup?
20:30 artur99 when ill have the big connection(200kb/sec - 8mb/sec) can i pl;ay?
20:31 Jordach yes
20:31 artur99 and that bug is because we have low speed?
20:32 Jordach yes, artur99 andto be fair, i've lived without the internet for 15 years without dialup / broadband
20:32 artur99 im 13, and i have internet 2 years ago >)
20:32 artur99 *:)
20:36 artur99 oh, my f... of s... connection!
20:39 Jordach artur99 - yeah, my school USED TO have dial up, twas horrible loading short clips
20:42 KikaRz Buy a better
20:42 KikaRz internet
20:42 artur99 if i want to see a you tube film(3 minutes) it is loading in 30 minutes
20:42 artur99 there is no beter in my area...
20:43 OldCoder artur99, I am sorry
20:43 OldCoder artur99, I must ask you not to play on the Europe world
20:43 artur99 on 8 day in every month ill play the game
20:43 artur99 ill not play...
20:44 OldCoder artur99, you must avoid dialup days. So must Julius.
20:44 OldCoder If you come on dialup days we must block you.
20:44 OldCoder Sorry.
20:44 artur99 what is to avoid?
20:44 artur99 to upgradE?
20:44 OldCoder Do not come except when Internet is fast
20:44 artur99 ok
20:44 OldCoder If it is a day with dialup do not play or you will harm the other players
20:44 artur99 i must go to bed, bye!
20:44 OldCoder Please explain this to your brother
20:44 OldCoder Good night
20:45 * OldCoder sighs
20:45 OldCoder Heh
20:45 OldCoder It has been an interesting year
20:45 ruskie hmm
20:45 ruskie interesting
20:45 OldCoder ruskie, Let me op you
20:45 artur99 joined #minetest
20:45 OldCoder If they come and this happens you can ban
20:45 OldCoder artur99, wb
20:46 OldCoder ruskie, Do you object to joining RBA as op?
20:46 artur99 so can i play when on the server there is nobody?
20:46 OldCoder No
20:46 OldCoder It will not work
20:46 ruskie OldCoder, I don't mind
20:46 artur99 aaa
20:46 artur99 ok
20:46 OldCoder May damage the world
20:46 OldCoder Sorry!
20:46 OldCoder artur99, You need broadband
20:46 OldCoder But you can play offline
20:46 artur99 ok
20:46 artur99 bye
20:46 OldCoder with your brother using LAN
20:47 OldCoder Bye
20:47 artur99 go to sleep
20:47 OldCoder Yep
20:48 ruskie sorry to hear that the dialup is the problem though
20:49 OldCoder As Jordach said it does show MT is flexible
20:49 OldCoder They nearly work!
20:50 ruskie well they did play for a month with no real problems
20:50 OldCoder Interesting
20:50 Jordach so yes, it DOES WORK on older hardware indeed
20:50 OldCoder See if the problem occurs with other people
20:50 OldCoder Yes
20:50 OldCoder Whereas MC does not
20:50 OldCoder AFAIK
20:50 Jordach 56k modems included
20:50 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Xk5RlOkl9A
20:50 ruskie it could be that something change since that hw failure?
20:50 OldCoder Yes
20:50 OldCoder But I don't see enough to tell me
20:51 OldCoder See if performance is usually the same
20:51 OldCoder The software has not been modified as RBA has been busy
20:51 OldCoder So not much should be different
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20:53 Jordach hello Muadtralk
20:53 Muadtralk salut
20:54 KikaRz Oi Muad
20:54 KikaRz Muadtralk, can you change second server (building one) to creative mode?
20:54 KikaRz i wanted
20:54 KikaRz :p
20:54 Muadtralk never!
20:54 Muadtralk :P
20:55 Muadtralk creative mode is the bane of my existence
20:55 Muadtralk if it were up to me minetest wouldnt have it
20:55 Muadtralk i dont even use it for testing mods
20:56 KikaRz muad
20:56 Jordach lol
20:56 Muadtralk in fact..... i deleted the creative folder to save space
20:56 Muadtralk so i no longer have it
20:58 Muadtralk it was so worth 4 kb of extra space
20:58 OldCoder Hmm?
20:58 john_minetest harrison: this new game thing again?
20:59 john_minetest harrison: its name was spasim, right? you write it on the forum every day.
21:00 harrison I don't know how to respond.
21:00 OldCoder harrison, are you a bot?
21:00 harrison No. I am a coder.
21:01 OldCoder harrison, Pass the Turing Test. Tell us what you code.
21:01 PilzAdam bye
21:01 harrison Did you see the movie linked just now?
21:01 OldCoder harrison, Pass the Turing Test. Tell us what you code.
21:01 harrison I coded the raytracer that made that movie
21:01 OldCoder All right
21:01 OldCoder Welcome, then, Coder
21:01 harrison of course there was postproduction in cinelerra
21:02 john_minetest well, i am no bot but i failed the turing test ^^
21:02 harrison and also i had to use kdenlive for one step because ffmpeg encodes a file from screen capture
21:02 harrison that the latest cinelerra can't open properly
21:02 john_minetest harrison: your project looks quite interesting but i don't understand the concept and purposes of spasim.
21:02 Penguin joined #minetest
21:03 harrison so i transcode in kdenlive
21:03 Penguin Hey Everyone
21:03 john_minetest hi
21:03 harrison oh , john_minetest, almost nobody understands what i do or say
21:04 harrison did you read aeschylus ever? remember cassandra's curse?
21:04 harrison i have a mild version of it
21:04 KikaRz joined #minetest
21:04 john_minetest never played it.
21:04 KikaRz BACK
21:04 KikaRz OMG
21:05 KikaRz stupid internet cable
21:05 harrison http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra
21:05 harrison When Cassandra of Troy told him she wanted to stay a virgin,[citation needed] Apollo placed a curse on her so that she and all her descendants' predictions would not be believed.
21:05 harrison Cassandra's curse is not a game. I was making a classical reference.
21:06 harrison Since you had no idea what I meant, and I was attempting to describe a condition of inability to make oneself understood, there is a bittersweet selfreferntial flavor to this  chat.
21:07 harrison Now do I seem like a bot?
21:07 Penguin Playing slender
21:09 Penguin :)
21:11 OldCoder harrison, I did say Welcome :-)
21:12 OldCoder harrison, And...
21:12 OldCoder harrison, go up against *me* on that type of thing and you may be surprised. I am not precisely standard model either.
21:13 OldCoder It has taken me half a century to get to the point where I am able to have a conversation of this type reliably
21:13 OldCoder
21:14 OldCoder harrison, If harrison is neurologically different he may PM me something to talk if this seems useful or appropriate
21:14 OldCoder
21:14 Muadtralk ?
21:14 Muadtralk oldcoder check that statement
21:14 OldCoder *sometime not something
21:14 OldCoder ^ Is that what you meant? Noticed the typo
21:14 Muadtralk different thing
21:14 OldCoder I don't make them when I'm writing. This is more like speech.
21:14 OldCoder Which statement?
21:15 Muadtralk harrison, If harrison
21:15 OldCoder I know what I said
21:15 OldCoder It was intentional
21:15 Muadtralk capital I?
21:15 OldCoder I know what I said
21:15 OldCoder It was intentional
21:15 Muadtralk with a comma
21:15 OldCoder Yep
21:15 OldCoder Muadtralk, I am working IRL today. Is there anything significant that needs to be discussed?
21:16 Muadtralk nope!
21:16 Muadtralk i was just pointing out some errors
21:17 OldCoder Singular
21:17 OldCoder I noticed one
21:17 OldCoder You reported one that was not an error
21:18 KikaRz Muadtralk
21:18 KikaRz your server is getting laggy everyday
21:19 Muadtralk yep!
21:19 KikaRz and everyday
21:19 Muadtralk cause i like using bandwidth
21:19 KikaRz im getting far
21:19 KikaRz from the server
21:19 KikaRz if its lagging, i get out
21:19 Muadtralk :P
21:19 Dogzilla131 can somebody check the code and tell me whats wrong with it http://pastebin.com/Tc2ACMxZ
21:19 KikaRz if it continues
21:19 KikaRz bang
21:19 KikaRz byebye
21:19 KikaRz :P
21:19 Muadtralk it hasnt really been running in a long time
21:19 Muadtralk usually its just me and USA
21:20 OldCoder Dogzilla131 reports that his code does not load
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21:21 Muadtralk i wonder if /ignore still works here or am I being rather harsh KikaRz?
21:21 KikaRz what?
21:23 john_minetest Dogzilla131: Did you put the texture in the "textures" folder and did you name it right?
21:23 john_minetest Code seems to be okay, seems the texture can't be loaded correctly.
21:24 Dogzilla131 yeah i put textures name in a folder inside the mod folder
21:26 Muadtralk KikaRz the server will slow down at certain times
21:26 Muadtralk mainly from 8:00 to 10:00 pm EST
21:26 KikaRz yea yea... all the time
21:26 Dogzilla131 ok then how can i fix the loading
21:26 KikaRz since yesterday
21:26 KikaRz the server lagged a lot
21:26 Muadtralk well thats cause im never away from a computer
21:26 Muadtralk i'm on break
21:26 Renoki joined #minetest
21:27 Muadtralk so things get laggy
21:27 Muadtralk it will be normal by monday
21:28 Dogzilla131 how can i fix the loading of the png image for the code
21:30 Dogzilla131 nobody has suggestions
21:30 john_minetest make a folder called "textures" in the folder of the mod.
21:30 Kacey joined #minetest
21:30 john_minetest put the texture in there
21:31 Kacey hello
21:31 john_minetest hi
21:31 KikaRz Wb Kacey
21:31 Kacey thank you
21:32 OldCoder Dogzilla131, do you understand the above?
21:33 john_minetest gtg. bye
21:34 aggies hax
21:34 Kacey now it is just inception...
21:35 Dogzilla131 what software is more recommended to make the textures, paint or GIMP
21:35 Kacey what would happen if i googled google
21:35 Kacey paint.net
21:35 KikaRz Oh :(
21:35 Kacey googleception
21:35 KikaRz i wanted only Paint net for me
21:35 KikaRz :'(
21:35 KikaRz its only for me :(
21:36 Kacey no because i have iittoo
21:36 Jordach night all
21:36 Muadtralk i liked gimp
21:37 OldCoder Past tense?
21:38 Kacey O.o inception
21:40 Muadtralk oh sorry I like GIMP
21:40 Muadtralk nothing in the past
21:40 Kacey ok
21:42 harrison gimp
21:42 harrison gimp4lyfe
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21:49 Doc22 Digzilla131
21:49 Doc22 Dogzilla131
21:49 Doc22 wanna play on my server
21:49 Dogzilla131 yeah sure
21:49 Dogzilla131 ip port
21:50 KikaRz can i play too?
21:51 Doc22 sure
21:51 Doc22 ill pm u in a sec
21:51 Doc22 still need to fix a few things
21:51 Kacey ooh hi doc
21:53 Doc22 hey Kacey
21:56 * ruskie starts reconsidering his pyramid flooring... as fun as the lava is it is kinda disorienting
21:56 Doc22 lol
21:56 Doc22 wate
21:56 Doc22 water
21:56 ruskie using skylight for the floor
21:56 Doc22 ohhh
21:56 Doc22 ok
21:56 ruskie with lava underneath
21:57 Doc22 you were on #java in freenode right
21:57 Doc22 i remember you
21:57 ruskie was I?
21:57 ruskie when?
21:57 Doc22 err quakenet
21:57 ruskie nope
21:57 Doc22 no
21:57 ruskie I'm not on quakenet
21:57 Doc22 hmmm
21:57 ruskie ircnet, oftc, freenode, gimpnet, rizon
21:57 Doc22 someone with same name
21:57 Doc22 i guess
21:57 ruskie yup
21:57 Doc22 but have you been on #java
21:57 ruskie nope
21:57 Doc22 maybe they are linked
21:57 Doc22 ok
21:57 Doc22 they had the EXACT same name
21:58 ruskie there's someone on freenode with the same nick
21:58 ruskie though he uses "rsk"
21:58 ruskie here
21:58 Doc22 oh ok
21:58 ruskie I know there is someone on efnet using this nick as well
22:00 Kacey is the server up yet?
22:00 ruskie europe?
22:00 ruskie yup
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22:00 Kacey no Doc's server
22:01 Doc22 ig ij
22:01 Doc22 ok
22:01 Doc22 ya it is
22:01 Doc22 join
22:01 Kacey k
22:01 Doc22 ill pm u dog and kika
22:01 KikaRz IP?
22:01 KikaRz Im not pmed
22:04 Kacey server shut down
22:05 Kacey Doc22 ^
22:06 Kacey nvm im on
22:07 brandon_ joined #minetest
22:07 Kacey welcome
22:07 bulletrulz sup :D
22:18 M13 joined #minetest
22:21 KikaRz M13!!!
22:21 KikaRz Need to talk with you
22:22 Doc22 left #minetest
22:27 Kacey kika are you going to rejoin?
22:30 sebastiansam55 joined #minetest
22:31 Kacey welcome!!!!
22:34 Kacey hello?
22:36 Muadtralk joined #minetest
22:36 Kacey wb
22:38 kaeza joined #minetest
22:38 kaeza hi guys
22:38 Kacey heelo
22:38 kaeza hey Kacey! How's the city goin?
22:38 Kacey i had to delete the map :(
22:38 kaeza oh
22:39 Kacey ya
22:39 kaeza why?
22:39 Kacey it got corrupted
22:39 kaeza oh sorry
22:39 Kacey ooh well we can make a new map
22:40 kaeza maybe
22:40 Kacey how about a nuclear disaster map?
22:40 kaeza +1
22:40 Muadtralk hmmm
22:40 Muadtralk hasnt it already been made?
22:40 Kacey ya but i want to make another
22:41 kaeza Maudtralk: check tis one http://sites.google.com/site/lkaezadl3/minetest-city
22:41 kaeza this*
22:41 Kacey maybe we can use that to make it
22:41 kaeza VanessaE are you here?
22:43 Kacey kaeza do you know the  ip?
22:44 kaeza I'm currently @ work maybe later
22:44 Kacey ok
22:45 kaeza bbiab
22:46 doserj joined #minetest
22:52 kaeza Back in action!
22:52 kaeza seems it's a bit desolate on these parts
22:52 Kacey that is true
22:52 kaeza or is just my mofo IRC client?
22:53 Kacey no mine is blank also
22:53 kaeza Kacey have you played teeworlds?
22:53 Kacey ?
22:55 kaeza http://teeworlds.org
22:57 Kacey :(
22:58 Kacey air traffic control game
22:59 Muadtralk joined #minetest
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23:00 * Kacey needs something to do
23:07 Octupus joined #minetest
23:07 Octupus Hola
23:07 M13 hello Octupus
23:07 Octupus Hi m13
23:07 Kacey sorry i got bored
23:07 Octupus srry guys for not being online yesterday my internet was being a assss
23:07 Kacey lol
23:08 Octupus :3
23:08 KikaRz Kacey... You liar...
23:08 Kacey want to help make a nuclear disaster map
23:08 KikaRz Going to tell M13 about that
23:08 Kacey idk he knows that i do stuff like that
23:08 Kacey idc*
23:10 Kacey hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm nothing to do
23:10 * Octupus is away for a little bit be back in 30 mins or a hour
23:10 Kacey k
23:11 KikaRz m13.servegame.com:30001
23:11 KikaRz its a creative server
23:11 Kacey ooh ok
23:12 bulletrulz my internet is being a douchbag
23:12 Kacey lolz
23:12 bulletrulz 72 kbs WTF\
23:13 bulletrulz I ussually get around 300
23:13 Kacey lolz
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23:14 bulletrulz when trying to install remobo
23:14 kaeza hi again
23:14 bulletrulz error dependicie chkgonfig?
23:14 kaeza what's up
23:14 kaeza ?
23:16 KikaRz Kacey
23:16 KikaRz did server crashed?
23:16 Kacey no
23:17 KikaRz did /time 5200
23:17 KikaRz and it dont loads
23:17 Kacey wait yes it crashed
23:17 Kacey hey kaeza
23:17 KikaRz Okey :/
23:18 Kacey anybody want to work on nuclear disaster map?
23:18 bulletrulz i i got a chkconfig error when trying to isntal remobo?
23:18 kaeza What's remobo?
23:19 bulletrulz http://www.remobo.com/
23:19 KikaRz server back
23:19 KikaRz Official IRC: #m13
23:19 Kacey k
23:20 kaeza nevermind
23:23 KikaRz what you did now kacey?
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23:38 KikaRz gtg
23:38 Kacey k
23:38 Kacey Octupus are you alive?
23:59 * OldCoder is resting

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