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00:03 M13 joined #minetest
00:05 Mikeonline seems that under is pos and pointed thing is not a node
00:07 OldCoder Doc22, are you saying to disable Opals again?
00:07 Doc22 sure
00:08 OldCoder Is that yes or no?
00:08 Doc22 they do nothing
00:08 Doc22 yes
00:08 OldCoder So no way to get opals?
00:08 Doc22 they do nothing
00:08 babyface1031 gems opal you birtstone opal
00:08 OldCoder I am not following
00:08 Doc22 well the id is messed up
00:08 OldCoder Go on
00:08 Doc22 on my opal bridge
00:08 OldCoder Is this correctable?
00:08 Doc22 possibly
00:08 Doc22 but i dont know where all the code is for your gems version
00:08 OldCoder State what you wish me to do
00:08 OldCoder It is in
00:08 OldCoder the ZIP file I gave you
00:09 OldCoder Or it does not exist
00:09 Doc22 thats what i mean
00:09 Doc22 i think they should be taken out
00:09 Doc22 now I see
00:09 OldCoder Doc22, if you gave a different gems from github
00:09 OldCoder what is the link?
00:09 OldCoder He said this was his latest version
00:09 Doc22 a different gems?
00:09 Doc22 I dont know what you mean
00:10 Doc22 unless you mean the version with opal
00:10 OldCoder I mean
00:10 OldCoder The one you looked at earlier
00:10 OldCoder From GitHub IIRC
00:10 Doc22 hmmm
00:10 Doc22 ill get it
00:11 Doc22 https://github.com/wowiamdiamonds/gems
00:11 Doc22 there
00:11 OldCoder ??
00:11 OldCoder wowiamdiamonds?
00:12 OldCoder Is that NekoGloop's? Whose is it?
00:13 OldCoder No
00:13 OldCoder Doc22, that is somebody else's
00:13 OldCoder We'd need to check again for conflicts
00:13 Doc22 i dont know
00:13 Doc22 thats what i linked to earlier
00:13 OldCoder This would need to be straightened out
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00:20 babyface1031 hi Octupus
00:21 Octupus Hola babyface1031
00:36 M13 KikaRz
00:36 OldCoder Gone
00:36 M13 ok
00:36 M13 I granted him interact on my server
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00:37 OldCoder M13, she says that she is a she.
00:37 OldCoder A her and not a him.
00:37 OldCoder etc.
00:38 Octupus Hi OldCoder
00:38 OldCoder Octupus, Hi
00:38 M13 oo
00:39 Octupus Hi M13
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00:54 Mikeonline n8
00:56 Doc22 oh oldcoder
00:56 Doc22 there is one more thing
00:57 OldCoder Oh?
00:57 Doc22 can you add chains mod
00:57 OldCoder Doc22, Talk to others and build consensus please
00:57 OldCoder Same as I told you today
00:57 OldCoder Need to know if mod is safe and not slow
00:57 Doc22 oh yeah
00:57 Doc22 ok
00:58 Doc22 it is safe
00:58 OldCoder Oh?
00:58 Doc22 and it doesnt slow the server
00:58 Doc22 it just adds placable chains
00:58 OldCoder Then verify others agree with you
00:58 Doc22 ok
00:58 Doc22 ill ask baby
00:58 OldCoder k
00:59 Doc22 she said yes
00:59 Doc22 come see tha campfire mod and gems mod
00:59 Doc22 join the server
00:59 OldCoder I will
00:59 Doc22 itll be fun
00:59 OldCoder But out of time today
00:59 Doc22 ok
00:59 OldCoder I believe you
00:59 OldCoder Need to do work elsewhere
00:59 babyface1031 I didnt say yes i said i havent looked at them
00:59 Doc22 ok
01:00 OldCoder Doc22, you fibbed :-)
01:00 Doc22 oh i thought you said yess for that
01:00 OldCoder Huh
01:00 OldCoder Fibber
01:00 OldCoder :-)
01:00 Doc22 im sorry i misunderstood
01:00 Doc22 :-)
01:00 babyface1031 he asked 2 question at the same time
01:00 Doc22 i know lol
01:00 OldCoder k
01:00 Doc22 sowwy
01:00 * Doc22 blushes
01:00 OldCoder All right
01:00 * Doc22 turns purple
01:01 * Doc22 faints
01:01 Doc22 you have won the battle!
01:01 Doc22 OldCoder recieved 348 experience points!
01:01 Doc22 OldCoder leveled up!
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01:01 Doc22 OldCoder is now level 4
01:01 Doc22 hey octupus
01:02 Doc22 come to 30004
01:02 Doc22 oldcoder added my campfire mod
01:02 Doc22 and my gems mod
01:02 Doc22 its fun
01:02 Doc22 :D
01:02 Octupus Hi Doc22
01:02 Doc22 hi!
01:02 Doc22 come on
01:02 Doc22 lets play
01:02 Octupus I canny
01:02 Doc22 i and face wanna build something
01:02 Octupus Cannot
01:02 Doc22 y not
01:02 Octupus iPod
01:03 Doc22 :P
01:03 Doc22 lol
01:04 OldCoder Doc22, what is level 4?
01:04 Doc22 its a joke
01:04 Doc22 lol
01:04 OldCoder k
01:05 Octupus K
01:10 M13 well g2g
01:10 * M13 says Bye to all
01:11 * M13 says Bye to all
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01:54 Octupus :-/
01:57 OldCoder Octupus, why :-/
01:57 Octupus Bored :)
02:00 marktraceur Octupus: I know a great game you can play
02:00 Doc22 bye guys
02:00 Doc22 getting off for the night
02:00 Octupus Why game ?
02:00 Octupus Bye Doc22
02:00 Doc22 cya octu
02:00 Doc22 :)
02:07 marktraceur Octupus: It's a joke, you've complained of being bored in an IRC channel for a game, so I figured I'd offer you the obvious solution to boredom
02:07 Octupus I mean what
02:07 Octupus Typo
02:08 marktraceur Octupus: Minetest, of course!
02:14 * marktraceur has re-joined the channel because he's making a new mod that will likely be useful to others
02:14 marktraceur I suppose I should say "modpack", but I'm not sure I love that word
02:15 OldCoder marktraceur, Hello
02:18 Octupus O :D
02:19 marktraceur OldCoder: Hi!
02:24 Kacey joined #minetest
02:24 Kacey hello
02:24 marktraceur Kacey: Hi!
02:25 Kacey only one hour to play today...
02:25 Kacey i hate bedtime
02:25 OldCoder Kacey, without bedtime how would there be bed? It follows logically
02:25 OldCoder Without bed no sleep
02:25 OldCoder That is deep
02:26 OldCoder No sleep no dreams
02:26 Kacey but i hate my bedtime
02:26 OldCoder Dreams are important
02:26 OldCoder It is Saturday
02:26 OldCoder Perhaps it is negotiable
02:26 NakedFury sleeping is good
02:26 Kacey 8:30 pm and no later
02:26 OldCoder Hmm
02:26 OldCoder Seems early
02:26 NakedFury specially when you can do it for long periods of time
02:26 OldCoder Hyep
02:26 OldCoder Yep
02:27 OldCoder NakedFury, you have interact on 30014 now
02:27 NakedFury anyone know what happened to cornernote?
02:27 OldCoder Yes
02:27 Kacey very considering that it is 7:30 now
02:27 OldCoder I have PMd him as he invited me too
02:27 OldCoder *to
02:27 OldCoder But no reply today
02:27 NakedFury I read something about him being banned on the forums or something
02:27 OldCoder Kacey, negotiate over time
02:27 OldCoder NakedFury, PM
02:32 Octupus Isnt it crazy that red,white,and blue represent freedom until they flash behind you ?
02:33 marktraceur NakedFury: He left, but asked to be banned symbolically.
02:36 OldCoder Octupus, :D
02:36 * OldCoder laughs out loud
02:36 Octupus :D
02:41 GTRsdk OldCoder: have you tried icc?
02:41 Kacey joined #minetest
02:41 Kacey hello
02:41 Kacey anybody know how to make colored fence?
02:42 OldCoder GTRsdk, yes; years ago. Not for MT yet.
02:42 OldCoder Kacey, wb
02:42 Kacey i just need to know the recipe for colored fence
02:43 babyface1031 make color wood first
02:43 babyface1031 then make the fence with the colored wood
02:43 Kacey how O.o
02:43 babyface1031 are you on 30004
02:43 Kacey yes
02:43 babyface1031 be right there
02:44 Kacey k
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02:45 OldCoder sdzen, wb
02:46 Octupus Hello every I missed :)
02:49 babyface1031 brb
02:50 babyface1031 if kacey comes on tell him i have to restart my interntet please but i am comeing
02:50 Kacey joined #minetest
02:50 Kacey face?
02:51 Kacey nvm
02:51 OldCoder Kacey, Hi
02:51 Kacey how do you make colored wood?
02:52 OldCoder She will return shortly
02:52 OldCoder And explain
02:52 OldCoder <babyface1031> if kacey comes on tell him i have to restart my interntet please but i am comeing
02:52 Kacey aah
02:53 GTRsdk OldCoder: yeah I meant for MT :-)
02:53 OldCoder GTRsdk, I figured
02:58 Octupus Booooooob
02:59 Octupus $phrase "Isnt it crazy that red,white,and blue represent freedom until they flash behind you.            Print "$phrase\n;"
02:59 Octupus OldCoder: ^
03:00 Octupus Did I do it correctly ?
03:01 OldCoder Almost
03:01 OldCoder These changes:
03:01 Octupus O
03:01 OldCoder $phrase = "text";
03:01 OldCoder So:
03:01 OldCoder = is needed
03:01 OldCoder and end the text with ";
03:01 OldCoder Also
03:01 OldCoder print would be lower case
03:01 Octupus Oooo I forgot about dat
03:01 OldCoder and print "$phrase\n";
03:01 OldCoder would have semicolon after the " and not before it
03:02 Octupus O
03:03 Octupus $phrase = "Patience is A Virtue";    print "$phrase\n";
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03:07 Octupus Hi babyface1031
03:07 babyface1031 hi
03:13 Octupus I have been here for 2 hours
03:13 Octupus :)
03:19 babyface1031 i been here just watching a movie'
03:22 Octupus Cool
03:23 Doc22 joined #minetest
03:23 Doc22 'ello
03:23 Octupus Hi Doc22
03:23 Doc22 hey
03:23 Doc22 you still on your ipod or can you pla7
03:24 Doc22 play
03:24 Octupus iPod
03:24 Doc22 awww
03:25 Doc22 babyface1031 you on the server?
03:25 babyface1031 yes
03:25 Doc22 ok im coming
03:25 babyface1031 it is me and Kacey right now
03:31 Octupus Walt Disney bosssssss
03:37 marktraceur Hrm.
03:37 marktraceur I'm getting a black box instead of my textures when I use fixed nodeboxes, anyone know what's up with that?
03:40 Octupus No
03:41 Octupus But what do I know about node boxes :P
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03:56 Octupus Hi M13
03:56 M13 how do I get past the Minetest pun stop
03:56 M13 I cant post anything im minetest forum
03:57 Octupus What are the questions
03:57 Octupus Developer is c55
03:57 Octupus Or celeron5,5. If it ask for nick it's ^
03:58 M13 like Minetest spelled backwards and when I enter it it wont let me in
03:58 Octupus And stable version is 0.4.1
03:58 M13 no its 0.4
03:58 Octupus No m13
03:58 Octupus It's 0.4.1
03:58 M13 ok
04:00 M13 What is a minetest add-on called?
04:00 M13 that is a Question
04:00 VanessaE a mod of course.
04:00 VanessaE also, hi
04:00 M13 it wont work Vanessa
04:00 Octupus Hello VanessaE
04:00 VanessaE when did you last try it?
04:00 M13 and the previous Versionis 0.3 right?
04:00 VanessaE c55 just tweaked the config earlier today
04:01 VanessaE clear your cache and cookies.
04:01 M13 ok
04:01 VanessaE Doc22 was having probs as well, but that fixed it for him after c55 made his tweaks
04:01 Doc22 jij
04:01 Doc22 huh
04:01 VanessaE hah, there he is
04:01 marktraceur VanessaE: You're good with texture-y stuff! Why am I getting a black box with a fixed nodebox?
04:02 VanessaE a black box?
04:02 VanessaE er..
04:02 * Doc22 babbles angrily
04:02 * Doc22 calms down
04:02 * Doc22 goes back to digging
04:02 Octupus Hi Doc22 tomorrow I play with u I promise
04:02 Doc22 ok
04:02 Doc22 i made a nexux
04:02 Doc22 nexux
04:02 Doc22 nEXUS
04:03 Doc22 it has teleporters in it
04:03 VanessaE heh, keyboarding FAIL :-)
04:03 M13 I cant
04:03 Octupus Cooooool
04:03 M13 Vanessa, is the cache the .cache folder in home folder?
04:03 Octupus Doc22: Shall I make it the server teleport command
04:03 VanessaE M13: "clear your cache" means use the function supplied by your web browser.
04:03 M13 ok, were is it in firefox?
04:03 Doc22 what>
04:04 Doc22 wha?
04:04 Doc22 what you mean
04:04 M13 got it
04:04 VanessaE in firefox for example, that's Tools -> Clear Recent History -> (click the [X] Cookies and [X] Cache boxes) -> Clear Now
04:04 VanessaE oh and set the time range at the top to "everything"
04:05 Octupus Doc22: Srry he teleport room for the server?
04:05 M13 thnx got it
04:05 M13 It worked too
04:05 Doc22 ok
04:06 Doc22 what
04:06 VanessaE you can post?
04:06 Doc22 oh make a teleport to it?
04:06 Doc22 octu
04:06 M13 yep Vanessa
04:06 M13 That worked
04:06 VanessaE M13: excellent.
04:06 Doc22 ill try it no
04:06 Doc22 now
04:06 M13 thnx, cyah later Vanessa
04:06 VanessaE no prob, cya
04:07 Doc22 ok i got rid of the old moldy cookies
04:07 Octupus Yes doc
04:07 VanessaE marktraceur: I'm not sure I understand what you meant btw.  Can you post a screenshot?
04:08 VanessaE (and pastebin the offending code of course)
04:09 marktraceur VanessaE: http://media.marktraceur.info/u/marktraceur/m/black-box-in-minetest/
04:09 VanessaE and the code?
04:10 marktraceur VanessaE: http://paste.marktraceur.info/2
04:10 VanessaE I've seen others having the same problem before - for example in 3dforniture, the round trees do the same thing until you interact with the environment near them
04:10 Doc22 yes! vanessae it works
04:10 VanessaE Doc22: good :-)
04:11 Doc22 octupus i would rather it not be public
04:11 Doc22 it goes to all my stuff
04:11 Doc22 vanessae also can you move my chains mod to releases
04:11 Octupus Doc as u wish :)
04:11 Doc22 thanks octu
04:11 VanessaE marktraceur: is_ground_content is a no-op btw.  you can delete that line. (33)   *continues looking at code*
04:11 Doc22 i dont want griefers
04:12 marktraceur VanessaE: Ah, digging nearby nodes fixed it. But the textures are cropped.
04:12 VanessaE Doc22: remind me in the forums - post on the Mod Move Requests topic
04:12 Doc22 i already had someone place blocks that cant be destroyed...
04:12 Doc22 ij
04:12 Doc22 k
04:12 VanessaE marktraceur: that part is normal.
04:12 marktraceur VanessaE: Also, it doesn't appear to be diggable?
04:12 VanessaE The nodeboxes are first assembled and rendered, then the textures are projected onto them from 100% size - they don't scale down to fit.
04:13 marktraceur Ah.
04:13 * marktraceur will change the textures, then, to work.
04:13 VanessaE 34. groups = { metal = 2}  <--  you need things like snappy or cracky here.
04:13 marktraceur Mmmkay.
04:14 Doc22 done
04:14 marktraceur VanessaE: Thanks, I think I can get the rest.
04:14 VanessaE now, why the black textures...
04:14 VanessaE still thinking.  What is it that I'm doing with my mods that others aren't?  I never had that happen in my own code
04:15 Octupus Doc22: did I find my birthstone ?
04:15 Doc22 what?
04:15 Octupus Diamond
04:16 VanessaE *scratches head*
04:18 VanessaE marktraceur: I can't help but wonder if it's something really obscure, like your use of single quotes everywhere (not that it should matter - I just can't seem to spot the problem)
04:19 VanessaE marktraceur: the "diggable" line (27) is also not necessary, afaik all nodes are diggable by default.  Not that that'll fix the issue either :-)
04:22 VanessaE dammit, and c55 isn't online to ask either.
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04:31 Octupus We need to have a partay
04:31 Octupus Wooooo
04:37 marktraceur Octupus: What, the MT community? Where should we have it?
04:38 marktraceur VanessaE: Thanks a bunch, I'll be able to take it from here I think :)
04:38 Octupus On a server
04:38 Octupus :)
04:38 VanessaE marktraceur: no prob.
04:38 VanessaE let me know if you figure out a solution to the black textures.
04:38 marktraceur Octupus: Well, it'd be hard to fit us all, and we might break it
04:38 Octupus True
04:38 Octupus Bye
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05:19 marktraceur Huh, no docs on the new doc pages for minetest.env? Did that disappear?
05:19 VanessaE dunno?
05:19 marktraceur Hrm.
05:20 * marktraceur uses plaintext docs from repo instead of startup-y website, then
05:20 VanessaE bbl, bedtime :-)
05:20 VanessaE marktraceur: msg me when you figure out the issue with the black textures.  I'm really curious.
05:21 VanessaE (click)
05:21 marktraceur VanessaE: I wound up just digging a node, and it worked. I won't investigate further, I'm happy with that solution (as if it were a solution)
05:35 Doc22 good night all
06:12 NakedFury see you all later
06:49 * marktraceur is putting finishing touches on a conveyor belt mod
06:50 marktraceur Possibly will segue into a factory mod (or a rewrite of my old factory mod) tomorrow
06:50 marktraceur OK, dumb question: Does anyone know how to enable fast_move on single player?
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07:01 * marktraceur foolishly files a bug in hopes that it might get solved: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/287
07:04 RBA_away marktraceur, /grant singleplayer all
07:05 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Thanks! On to the next problem, I suppose :)
07:06 Calinou o_o marktraceur is back on irc
07:06 Calinou hi
07:06 marktraceur Calinou: I never left IRC, just #minetest&*
07:06 marktraceur #minetest*, sorry
07:06 marktraceur Calinou: With any luck, and a mite of courtesy, I might stick around!
07:06 * Calinou is now on xubuntu instead of windows
07:07 marktraceur Calinou: Baby steps are good :)
07:07 RealBadAngel marktraceur, /grant singleplayer fast   would be correct answer to your question
07:07 RealBadAngel all gives you all the privs
07:07 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Yes, but your answer worked for me because I would also sometimes like fly
07:09 RealBadAngel about the furnace, when youre messing with them, if you could play with mine version from technic
07:09 RealBadAngel if theyre affected with same problem
07:10 RealBadAngel ive reworked furnaces code a bit
07:10 marktraceur RealBadAngel: It seems like a problem with the Lua API, but I'm not sure if it would affect other furnaces. I can check later, but hopefully a fix would affect yours too :)
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07:10 RealBadAngel honestly i dont know, im just sayin my furnace code differs a lot
07:11 RealBadAngel and maybe works better (or worse) ;)
07:13 marktraceur *nod*
07:13 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Comment on the bug, I'll check it out if/when I fix the initial problem
07:20 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Ignore me! I'm dumb.
07:22 marktraceur RealBadAngel: It turns out default:furnace changes to default:furnace_active when it's active, so my ABM had *no idea* what it was doing. Sorry about the false alarm.
07:22 marktraceur And with that, I shall release.
07:39 RealBadAngel hehehe
07:40 RealBadAngel i also had a problem with my code yesterday
07:40 RealBadAngel was coding for a whole day and couldnt find a reason it glitches
07:40 RealBadAngel decided to go to sleep, woke up
07:40 RealBadAngel 5 minutes problem solved
07:45 RealBadAngel i got almost ready LUA method to read players keyboard input
07:46 RealBadAngel got it already transferred to the server side, now polishin LUA interface to it
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08:18 RealBadAngel hi celeron55
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08:48 Penguin joined #minetest
08:49 Penguin hi
08:49 Calinou Penguin: are you jpenguin?
08:49 Calinou hi
08:49 Penguin No Just Penguin
08:54 RealBadAngel flied away, strange, thought penguins cant fly...
09:20 RealBadAngel silent sunday indeed :)
09:22 RealBadAngel im done with keyboard read patch, lets now play with c55's nodeboxes patch
09:22 Calinou inb4 mese stairs
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09:26 Jordach hello #minetest
09:27 Calinou hi
09:28 marktraceur Morning
09:28 * Jordach falls of off sofa
09:30 RealBadAngel hi Jordach
09:31 RealBadAngel ive finished the patch for Taoki
09:31 * marktraceur watches, stifles laughter, goes back to other things
09:31 RealBadAngel now she will be able to play correct 3d player animations
09:33 Jordach and shes here )
09:33 Jordach +:
09:33 RealBadAngel speakin of the devil ;)
09:33 RealBadAngel hi Taoki
09:34 RealBadAngel check minetest main tree pull requests
09:34 Taoki hi :)
09:34 Taoki You pull requested the code? Awesome
09:34 RealBadAngel its fully workin
09:35 RealBadAngel you can either check bit packed key code
09:35 Taoki great!
09:35 RealBadAngel or boolean values for each defined key
09:36 Taoki yep
09:37 Jordach now can have a lag tester by hittin L
09:37 RealBadAngel it returns the state of 7 control keys and LMB + RMB
09:37 Jordach now can have a lag tester by hittin Lwhy mod MMB
09:38 Taoki celeron55_ (or anyone who has upstream access): Can you please merge RBA's pull request when you're back? It's needed for the models, so now I'll be waiting until its in to continue
09:38 Jordach Taoki - you know thexyz and pilzadm have access right?
09:38 RealBadAngel "or anyone"
09:38 Jordach HA!
09:39 Taoki Oh, didn't remember exactly. If they can sure :)
09:39 * marktraceur wonders why only three people have access to the repo
09:39 RealBadAngel using the patch is easy
09:39 Taoki marktraceur: It's been discussed, more will over time
09:39 Jordach marktraceur - c55 aint working on it as much
09:39 marktraceur (not that I haven't wondered this before, of course)
09:40 RealBadAngel just get desired player, then call method get_player_control()
09:40 Jordach ehm, is minetest.net down
09:40 RealBadAngel to get table with keys
09:40 marktraceur Taoki: Why over time? I'm 100% sure there are other awesome people who should have access.
09:40 Jordach name 'em...if you can
09:40 Taoki marktraceur: Same. But c55 is running a survey first before deciding who else to give that to
09:40 RealBadAngel still, 3 is 3 times more than before
09:40 RealBadAngel 300%
09:40 RealBadAngel sounds better? :)
09:41 Taoki sure thing
09:41 Taoki RealBadAngel: You're someone who should have access too IMO, since you're very interested in the project and good with scripting and coding also. And especially OldCoder too
09:42 marktraceur Jordach: VanessaE comes to mind (sorry for the ping, but you deserve it), and possibly Kray or other admins for bigger servers. Maybe darkrose, too, though my recollection of her C++ skills is foggy.
09:42 marktraceur Jordach: I don't know some other people here, but I'm sure newer people are cool too :)
09:42 Jordach VanessaE works fine with LUA, i know that
09:42 RealBadAngel Taoki, im not requesting it, i just started to mess with the engine
09:42 Taoki Yes VanessaE did nice things too
09:43 Taoki RealBadAngel: I know. Just saying cuz you did nice things for MT too :)
09:43 marktraceur Jordach: Well, and textures, and documentation. Just because someone has access on the repo doesn't mean we expect them to review C++ code. There are bound to be documentation or texture patches.
09:44 Jordach marktraceur - yes i agree, i've wrote down installing minetest mods over and over, but never published it
09:44 * marktraceur realizes suddenly what time it is, and how tired he is
09:45 marktraceur I'll chat more tomorrow, have some mods in the pipeline that should be interesting
09:45 RealBadAngel Taoki, and about the bandwith, ive added just 2 bytes to data being sent to server
09:46 Taoki I know. That is good and shouldn't affecy anyone really
09:46 RealBadAngel thats why we do have here also bit packed value
09:46 Taoki I tried using a converter actually. Apparently 2 bytes adds something like 0.001 kb/s, which is nearly nothing
09:46 RealBadAngel this one is actually sent
09:46 Taoki Well assuming it would be sent every 1 second
09:47 RealBadAngel its sent 5 times a second i think
09:47 RealBadAngel together with player's position
09:47 Taoki That would be 0.005 kb.s more, so no biggie
09:48 Jordach wait wait wait wait
09:48 Jordach you know how blocks now punch far away
09:49 RealBadAngel ?
09:49 Jordach since T_A_N_K_s patch for a better digging anim
09:51 RealBadAngel so what about it?
09:51 Jordach you know how it used to be a twist of a fist right?
09:51 RealBadAngel go on
09:52 Jordach by using this new patch, blocks can have the twisty anim, while tools and items can have the new anim
09:52 RealBadAngel all is up to Taoki
09:53 Jordach i know, but having a nice anim for blocks would be nice
09:53 RealBadAngel my patch itself does nothing to animations, it allows only to read the keys
09:53 Taoki Yes, I'll try to finish the animations script after the keys change is in
09:53 RealBadAngel you can take my branch and work on it
09:54 Taoki Just on question regarding lua: How can I give each player a field in my script? Like define something called .myfield in the script itself, then get the playerr as an object in my loop and use obj.myfield
09:54 Taoki I'd rather wait for it to be in master, to avoid git conflicts and the like
09:56 RealBadAngel it shall be added in c++
09:57 RealBadAngel extra field in player structure
09:57 RealBadAngel i just did something like that
09:57 RealBadAngel player structure now have keyPressed value
10:00 Taoki Is the function still called sendPlayerPos? Since like I said this would be incorrect now, since it sends more than position
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10:01 RealBadAngel yaw is not the position neither
10:01 RealBadAngel and is being sent there :)
10:01 Taoki Pitch and yaw can be considered part of the player positioning
10:01 RealBadAngel so controls also
10:02 RealBadAngel pos is to change with controls, isnt it?
10:02 RealBadAngel yaw and pitch too
10:03 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/keys.png
10:03 RealBadAngel use of dump control structure with ABM
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10:06 KikaRz Hello! GOod morning everyone
10:06 KikaRz OldCoder, you there? or its too early to talk? xd
10:08 ruskie probably is for him since it's the middle of the night for him
10:09 KikaRz its 05 or 04 AM
10:09 KikaRz in EU.
10:09 ruskie no
10:09 ruskie it's 11:10 in the EU
10:09 KikaRz Nope
10:09 KikaRz i was wrong
10:10 KikaRz Estados Unidos = United States
10:10 ruskie hehe
10:10 KikaRz Portugal: 10:09 / Spain: 11:09
10:10 ruskie it's 05 EST
10:10 KikaRz ok
10:11 KikaRz you have a server?
10:11 ruskie so yeah middle of the night
10:11 ruskie no
10:11 ruskie I play on europe
10:11 KikaRz so
10:11 KikaRz what server?
10:11 ruskie europe.minetest.org
10:11 ruskie another one run by OldCoder
10:12 KikaRz i dont have a fix one
10:12 KikaRz just in random servers
10:14 KikaRz minetest.sytes.net:30001
10:14 KikaRz join that server
10:14 KikaRz pratically its mine too
10:17 Taoki RealBadAngel: Yep, that looks great
10:18 RealBadAngel one thing comes in mind
10:19 RealBadAngel protocol version number should be changed due to this patch
10:20 Jordach yeah
10:20 Jordach i agree
10:20 Taoki RealBadAngel: My patch updates protocol version too. Since it's not merged yet, it will do by itself I believe
10:21 Taoki RealBadAngel: Also: Did you check if that causes GIT conflicts with my code? Just curious to know what to expect :P
10:22 RealBadAngel ive changed 7 files it total
10:23 RealBadAngel lua_api.txt, player.h, localplayer.h, client.cpp, server.cpp, game.cpp  and scriptapi.cpp
10:23 Taoki Yeah, it just depends which areas. But doesn't look like it would be hard to fix if its the case
10:24 RealBadAngel propably nothin in the area of your interest
10:24 jin_xi merge conflicts are not soo scary
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10:49 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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10:55 RealBadAngel hi PilzAdam, im not done with textures yet. ive just finished engine patch on Taoki's request
10:56 RealBadAngel so she can now play correct 3d player animations
10:56 RealBadAngel it took me whole yestderday and a few hours in the morning
10:57 RealBadAngel the patch is submitted already
10:57 PilzAdam is this realy the best way to pass the keys to Lua?
10:57 KikaRz hey
10:57 KikaRz why my spawn isnt saved ?
10:57 KikaRz i went to the bed
10:57 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, the only way
10:57 KikaRz and i ve spawned into normal server spawn
10:58 RealBadAngel theres no other way in fact
10:58 PilzAdam could there be something like minetest.register_on_key_pressed(player, key)?
10:58 RealBadAngel now it could be
10:58 RealBadAngel thx to my code
10:58 RealBadAngel before server wasnt aware of player pressed keys
10:59 PilzAdam is the server protocol compatible?
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10:59 RealBadAngel ive provided a way to transfer control structure from local player to remote player
10:59 RealBadAngel no, version shall be changed
11:00 RealBadAngel there are extra 2 bytes being sent to server
11:01 PilzAdam i dont like the get_player_control(); there should be a Lua function that is called when the player hits/releases a key
11:01 RealBadAngel so write it :)
11:01 RealBadAngel without my code its impossible
11:02 RealBadAngel api part is just a tiny piece of the patch
11:03 PilzAdam but this tiny piece seems to be.. wrong
11:03 RealBadAngel such functions you would like to have requires key values to be aviable on the server side
11:03 RealBadAngel that patch does it
11:03 RealBadAngel and the function you dont like is what Taoki needs
11:04 RealBadAngel in the future i may write triggered one too, its a good idea
11:05 Taoki PilzAdam: From my understanding of the code (which is limited) it looks fine. There's always room for implementing something in a better way of course. Rest assured, this is completely needed for animations to be possible with my models
11:05 PilzAdam I know that you need it for animation
11:05 KikaRz Lol
11:05 KikaRz so dumb
11:06 KikaRz it said: KikaRz added to bed X Y Z
11:06 RealBadAngel and i need it for creative inventory stuff
11:06 KikaRz -.-
11:06 KikaRz and i didnt checked the console
11:06 Taoki Only thing I wasn't sure about is if we should network those two extra bytes with player position each client / server tick, and send it with player position (instead of just when the player presses / unpresses a new key). But 2 extra bytes should make no difference, and might be better than  pointlessly sending another set of packets from client to server
11:06 KikaRz going to check technic recipes.
11:07 RealBadAngel number of packets sent doesnt change
11:07 Taoki yeah
11:07 RealBadAngel its just extra 10 bytes/s total
11:07 RealBadAngel 2 bytes per each packet
11:07 Taoki PilzAdam: I think it might be best that the code simply updates which keys the player is pressing on the server, rather than calling a lua function. Since existing functions can know when to check them this way, instead of having to wait to be called
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11:08 Taoki eg: If I have a lua function executing every few seconds, that function knows when to check for a pressed key
11:08 RealBadAngel for example im movin stuff from inventory to another one
11:08 Taoki Rather than having to add in an extra function that gets called and waiting for that to update the keys
11:08 RealBadAngel and check for shift pressed
11:08 RealBadAngel if so i move all of the kind
11:08 RealBadAngel instead of one stack
11:09 PilzAdam Taoki, yes, the get_player_control() is usefull, but register_on_key_pressed() too
11:09 Taoki If both of them can be added, that would also be nice
11:09 RealBadAngel if so some1 should write it
11:09 Taoki But the second part can be done later
11:09 Taoki As it's not really crucial for offering new functionality that wouldn't be possible without it
11:09 RealBadAngel i cant write everything possibly needed and nice at once
11:10 RealBadAngel this what ive done allows to do so
11:10 RealBadAngel and is not expected to solve everythin
11:11 PilzAdam Im wondering what c55 thinks about the patch
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11:11 RealBadAngel idk, hes jumpin in and out whole day
11:12 Penguin Me ?
11:12 RealBadAngel you too:P
11:12 RealBadAngel we were talkin bout c55
11:12 Penguin oh
11:12 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, i have not the knowledge to decide such stuff
11:12 KikaRz is minetest.net down?
11:13 PilzAdam seems so
11:13 RealBadAngel yup
11:13 KikaRz :/
11:14 Taoki yeah
11:14 Penguin RealBadAngle What is comming up for tecnic
11:14 Penguin ?
11:14 Taoki Not sure when celeron55 will be back again, but he's often here on IRC, so you can probably ask him to confirm. I looked at RBA's code and it seems ok to me, but my knowledge is still limited
11:15 PilzAdam the code is not the problem
11:16 PilzAdam we have to decide whats the best way to implement it
11:16 KikaRz RealBadAngel, can you send me the forum link for technic?
11:16 PilzAdam the forum is down
11:16 Penguin And ME
11:16 jin_xi will this also work for keypresses in formspecs?
11:16 KikaRz PilzAdam, not only forum
11:16 Penguin Thats Why I Carnt Get It
11:16 KikaRz but yes, the whole site
11:17 PilzAdam jin_xi, yes
11:17 RealBadAngel jin_xi, i will check that
11:17 Taoki yeah. It does look implemented ok-ish to me so...
11:17 Penguin Any One No How To Make A MK1 Constructior
11:17 KikaRz Forum down : [11:16] <celeron55> hmm... looks like there is some kind of a problem
11:17 Taoki BTW. Does anyone know if Kahrl is still around?
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11:18 PilzAdam Taoki, I havent seen Kahrl since i joined the communtiy
11:18 PilzAdam c55.me is down too
11:18 KikaRz RealBadAngel, whats the recipe for solar panel?
11:19 Penguin Wafer
11:19 KikaRz i said PilzAdam
11:19 Penguin Copper
11:19 KikaRz the whole site is down
11:19 Penguin w w w
11:19 Penguin w c w
11:19 Penguin w w w
11:19 KikaRz c = ?
11:19 KikaRz copper?
11:19 Penguin yes
11:19 KikaRz or cobble?
11:19 KikaRz ok
11:19 KikaRz copper
11:20 RealBadAngel jin_xi, no, formspec and player movement are two separate things
11:20 Taoki PilzAdam: He made a shaders branch, which I'm very interested in reviving after this. celeron55 said he won't accept it because there aren't any useful default shaders, though I think the code should work
11:20 RealBadAngel it works and applies the shader
11:21 RealBadAngel but very primitive one
11:21 Taoki yes
11:21 Taoki I had one question about it, but I dunno if someone else knows the code
11:21 Penguin MK1 Constructor Recipe please?
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11:22 Taoki hi
11:23 KikaRz Yes
11:23 KikaRz and C55.me
11:23 KikaRz and Minetest.net (whole site)
11:24 celeron55 c55.me is down due to a completely different reason
11:25 RealBadAngel hi celeron55, could you take a look at my patch?
11:25 celeron55 i have absolutely no idea why minetest.net doesn't answer to HTTP, i did some stuff in there but that shouldn't have caused anything odd, and i have already restarted the http server multiple times and it doesn't have any effect...
11:26 Jordach http bugs for the lose
11:28 RealBadAngel both doesnt respond to ping
11:28 Jordach reboot mre
11:28 Jordach mer
11:28 Jordach me
11:28 Taoki celeron55: PilzAdam was curious if you are ok with RealBadAngel's patch which implements reading of player pressed keys via lua (necessary for models to be animated for players). When you have some time you might wanna look at his code. I'm waiting for it to be in so I can do the final script for players so far :)
11:29 Taoki https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest/commit/93a84b597f3206d5c81067b5f8ed830551b61188
11:30 Jordach john_minetest - incorrect, if you dont have the 3d player client you'll see the 2d player
11:30 Taoki Jordach: Sadly, it's worse. If you don't have the 3D player code, you can't connect to a server that does. Because of the protocol version.
11:31 Taoki It would probably crash if you did, since the client couldn't understand messages sent by the server
11:31 Taoki No way around it... protocol_version is there for that
11:31 Jordach Taoki - well, i mean with the client and the model and server, but the server has no model
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11:32 Taoki The server must have the model. If it does the client doesn't need to, as it's put through the stream
11:32 Taoki In the case of the default player, the model is both on the client and server of course. But this is good to know for mods
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11:36 KikaRz need to talk with Muadtralk
11:40 Jordach is he here
11:40 Jordach yes or no?
11:40 KikaRz nope
11:40 KikaRz omg
11:41 KikaRz he got a mesecon pistons thing below me
11:41 KikaRz and i cant make my generator
11:42 KikaRz RealBadAngel, how i make a battery box ?
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11:58 OldCoder Hi
11:59 KikaRz Welcome OldCoder
11:59 OldCoder Yes
11:59 KikaRz Penguin, you said me the recipe wrong
11:59 KikaRz W W W
11:59 KikaRz W C W
11:59 KikaRz W W W dont works
11:59 OldCoder To answer the question from earlier I am here now
11:59 KikaRz OldCoder, here is 12:00
11:59 KikaRz it was 4 AM (USA) and i was here
11:59 KikaRz because it was 8 AM (EU)
11:59 KikaRz xd
12:02 RealBadAngel KikaRz, use doped wafers
12:02 KikaRz Where i get that?
12:02 KikaRz x_x'
12:02 RealBadAngel wafer + mithril dust in alloy furnace
12:02 KikaRz and where i get mithril?
12:02 RealBadAngel go mine some
12:02 KikaRz i have a guy at my side that got Technic things
12:02 KikaRz mining where?
12:02 RealBadAngel -512 and below
12:03 KikaRz o_o'
12:03 KikaRz so much...
12:03 KikaRz but ok...
12:10 KikaRz Lag is like X Ray
12:10 KikaRz reason: It shows us all caves
12:14 KikaRz alatro is rare?
12:17 Penguin Lonely on Coders Server :(
12:17 KikaRz only?
12:17 KikaRz im lonely in minetest.sytes.net:30001 server
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12:18 KikaRz Welcome Back Celeron!
12:19 OldCoder Hi
12:19 OldCoder Penguin, we will through parties there sometime
12:19 OldCoder Then Lonely will be gone
12:20 Penguin Haha
12:21 Penguin Is There Any Way I Can Make A Pistion Door Opened But Playing A Tune With The NoteBlocks
12:21 Jordach <OldCoder> Penguin, we will through parties there sometime s/through/throw
12:22 KikaRz Yep
12:22 Penguin how
12:22 KikaRz idk xd
12:22 KikaRz but there is a way
12:22 KikaRz a lever
12:22 OldCoder Hmm!
12:22 * OldCoder dislikes typos
12:22 KikaRz then you select
12:22 KikaRz the song
12:22 KikaRz and you put connected
12:22 KikaRz with pistons
12:25 KikaRz Welcome Back sfan5
12:25 sfan5 thx
12:27 Penguin Coder Can I Be VIP At The Party
12:27 OldCoder Penguin, of course
12:27 OldCoder You can serve the drinks
12:29 Penguin :) Wine From Hydro hehe
12:30 KikaRz Tux Penguin, you can bring us some "Wine".
12:30 KikaRz It might be good
12:30 KikaRz xd
12:31 Penguin i am duplicating it now
12:32 KikaRz RealBadAngel, im at -65.5 x_x
12:35 RealBadAngel dig further :)
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12:40 KikaRz im at mese and gold level
12:41 Jordach celeron55 - can you "try" to fix minetest.net?
12:44 Penguin Coder Are You Serious About The Party thing
12:45 KikaRz nope
12:45 KikaRz he was kidding
12:45 Penguin :(
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12:52 KikaRz just found 1 mithril. RealBadAngle
12:52 KikaRz *RealBadAngel
12:55 Penguin KikaRz Ever Been On Coders Server
12:55 RealBadAngel KikaRz, good. keep digging you will need lotsa more
12:55 KikaRz omg
12:55 KikaRz 2 mithril
12:56 KikaRz 1 alatro pickaxe
12:56 KikaRz at middle power
12:58 KikaRz who is moreores creator?
12:58 RealBadAngel Calinou
12:58 KikaRz ok, he's offline
12:58 KikaRz i got a tip.
12:58 KikaRz why him dont make a alatro pickaxe mining mese?
12:58 Jordach alatro is gloopores
12:58 Jordach gloopores != moreores
12:58 KikaRz that is?
12:59 Jordach moreores are real world stuff
12:59 KikaRz oh...
12:59 KikaRz ok.
12:59 Jordach (bar mithril)
12:59 KikaRz so
12:59 KikaRz who is gloopores creator?
12:59 Penguin gloopmaster
13:01 KikaRz time to go back home
13:01 KikaRz tired mining
13:01 Penguin Coder
13:04 OldCoder Worlds going down for emergency
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13:04 OldCoder Apparently there is lava
13:04 KikaRz omg
13:05 KikaRz my furnace is a bit glitchy
13:05 KikaRz it bugs
13:05 OldCoder Hmm?
13:05 KikaRz got 3 mithril ingots
13:06 RealBadAngel you were supposed to make dusts from mithril lumps
13:06 RealBadAngel using grinder
13:06 KikaRz i dont have power
13:06 RealBadAngel make coal generator
13:07 KikaRz thats the reason that i want to make solar panels
13:07 RealBadAngel or water mill
13:07 KikaRz and i make coal generator... how?
13:07 KikaRz and water mill how?
13:07 KikaRz '-'
13:07 OldCoder Shutdown canceled for now
13:08 KikaRz got my furnace bugged.
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13:15 RealBadAngel again today? what happened this time to the furnace?
13:16 Penguin RealBadAngel Can U Work On The Tubes So Thay Go In To Chests Please
13:16 RealBadAngel im workin on it, will be released when its done
13:17 Penguin Any idear When And Its Fantastic mod
13:18 RealBadAngel need to get some stuff to work in the 1st place
13:19 KikaRz how i make a water mill
13:19 KikaRz or a grinder?
13:19 Penguin Grinder
13:19 RealBadAngel open grinder.lua or water_mill.lua
13:19 Penguin Desert Store D
13:19 RealBadAngel and check the recipes
13:20 Penguin Steel
13:20 Penguin Stone ST
13:20 Penguin Copper C
13:20 Penguin DS DS DS
13:20 Penguin DS Copper DS
13:20 Penguin STEEL STEEL STEEL
13:21 Penguin OR STEEL COpper STeel
13:25 Penguin Am I RIght
13:27 RealBadAngel output = 'technic:grinder',
13:27 RealBadAngel recipe = {
13:27 RealBadAngel {'default:desert_stone', 'default:desert_stone', 'default:desert_stone'},
13:27 RealBadAngel {'default:desert_stone', 'technic:diamond', 'default:desert_stone'},
13:27 RealBadAngel {'default:stone', 'moreores:copper_ingot', 'default:stone'},
13:27 RealBadAngel }
13:28 Penguin So Close noooo lol
13:30 KikaRz why my Tool Workshop isnt receiving energy from generator? :c
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13:30 KikaRz im using a low voltage copper cable
13:34 Penguin its should do
13:34 KikaRz OW
13:34 KikaRz I NEED A ENERGY BOX
13:34 KikaRz right?
13:34 RealBadAngel yup
13:34 RealBadAngel battery box
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13:38 KikaRz where i get a diamond?
13:38 RealBadAngel digging time ;)
13:38 RealBadAngel -250 and below
13:39 KikaRz Omg
13:39 KikaRz Hate that
13:39 KikaRz Let me use my super powers
13:39 KikaRz and
13:39 KikaRz tell me the recipe of laser mining?
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13:39 KikaRz Hi there mr Ray 8888
13:39 ray8888 hey
13:40 KikaRz RealBadAngel, there is a laser minining?
13:40 KikaRz i want to mine faster
13:41 Penguin Mese Con And Tecnic = First Duplicator made by me
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13:42 KikaRz RealBadAngel
13:42 KikaRz how i get a laser miner?
13:42 Penguin Can I Speed Up The Blinky Plant
13:43 RealBadAngel output = 'technic:laser_mk1',
13:43 RealBadAngel recipe = {
13:43 RealBadAngel {'technic:diamond', 'default:steel_ingot', 'technic:battery'},
13:43 RealBadAngel {'', 'default:steel_ingot', 'technic:battery'},
13:43 RealBadAngel {'', '', 'moreores:copper_ingot'},
13:44 OldCoder Back
13:44 RealBadAngel Penguin, duplication bugs are provided by pistons, not technic stuff
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13:49 Penguin Trans Port Tubes And Node Breaker
13:52 dzzzyone joined #minetest
13:57 Penguin Bored
13:58 KikaRz ray8888, did  you left server?
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14:02 Penguin Hi Coder Server Lonely This Morning
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14:08 KikaRz Trying to find the stupid diamonds
14:10 Jordach RealBadAngel - diamonds should not be near -500
14:11 Penguin make a teleporter then teleport to -999.5
14:11 Jordach IRL, they are made around 180km under the earth we stand on
14:11 Jordach (until we get endless maps, never gunna happen)
14:12 KikaRz Recipe of teleport please.
14:12 KikaRz *teleporter
14:12 OldCoder Penguin, wait a while
14:12 OldCoder john_minetest, Infinite Maps are the Haps!
14:13 KikaRz RealBadAngel, give me teleporter recipe
14:14 Jordach OldCoder - can you grep the current source?
14:14 OldCoder john_minetest, sure
14:14 KikaRz or someone
14:14 OldCoder Oops
14:14 OldCoder Jordach, sure
14:14 ruskie KikaRz, go to the forums and look it up
14:14 OldCoder What for?
14:14 KikaRz Forums offline
14:14 OldCoder Again?
14:14 OldCoder We need to set up a separate MySQL server
14:14 OldCoder Oh!
14:14 OldCoder Teleport Recipe?
14:14 OldCoder Hold on
14:15 Penguin wood =W
14:15 OldCoder Who is looking for what?
14:15 Penguin Glass
14:15 OldCoder Jordach, ^
14:15 Penguin Mese
14:15 Penguin w m w
14:15 KikaRz Im looking for Teleporter recipe
14:15 Penguin w g w
14:15 KikaRz The requested resource could not be loaded. libcurl returned the error: connect() timed out!. Either try again or check that you are entering a valid URL.
14:15 Penguin w w w
14:15 KikaRz w = ?
14:15 KikaRz wood?
14:15 Penguin Wood
14:15 KikaRz m = mese?
14:15 KikaRz g = ?
14:15 Penguin Or Change The Glass And Mese Around
14:15 Penguin m
14:16 Penguin mese
14:16 KikaRz ok
14:16 Penguin G GLass
14:16 KikaRz penguin
14:16 KikaRz going to try your idea
14:16 KikaRz teleporting to 995.5
14:16 KikaRz -995.5 *
14:16 RealBadAngel jordach diamonds are -250 and below
14:18 KikaRz i dont find them at -250
14:18 RealBadAngel im tesing once again set_meta_nodedef branch by c55
14:18 RealBadAngel and cannot understand why celeron haven merged it
14:19 RealBadAngel maybe a slight problem with lights when changin nodeboxes
14:19 RealBadAngel but work changing textures it works ok
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14:24 KikaRz RealBadAngel, im getting angry.
14:24 RealBadAngel because?
14:25 KikaRz DIAMONDS DONT APPEAR!
14:25 RealBadAngel go where you have found your mithril and keep diggin
14:27 RealBadAngel heh, i just converted another windows user to linux
14:27 ruskie I generally don't bother unless I get asked
14:27 RealBadAngel deleted 7 and istalled ubuntu for him
14:28 RealBadAngel well i do get paid for it
14:28 ruskie I dislike any negativity that most users have
14:28 ruskie hehe
14:28 RealBadAngel reinstalling OS costs 50 pln
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14:29 KikaRz Talinite. -.-
14:29 RealBadAngel yup, but theyre a bit suprised when i show them how linux works
14:29 ruskie RealBadAngel, as long as they won't throw a fit about how it's crap and so on(sorry but seen to many of these from users that didn't want it)
14:30 RealBadAngel and mostly stays with linux and never come back to windows
14:30 RealBadAngel i laugh sometimes when they ask also for installing antivirus software
14:32 RealBadAngel ppl say so because they read somwhere somethin, or heard
14:32 RealBadAngel but never in fact were using linux
14:33 jin_xi Hey RealBadAngel, i tried to work on tetris some more, trying to code stuff differently
14:33 RealBadAngel and?
14:33 jin_xi but i feel it does not really change things...
14:33 OldCoder RealBadAngel, AV for Linux
14:33 OldCoder heh
14:33 jin_xi but feel free to check it out
14:33 jin_xi its in branch "hack"
14:33 RealBadAngel i will tommorow
14:33 KikaRz i know 1 AV
14:33 RealBadAngel now im workin on c55's not merged branch
14:33 KikaRz Avast...
14:33 RealBadAngel need it to be merged
14:34 jin_xi tried to use from_/to_table
14:34 jin_xi just so you know
14:34 RealBadAngel with it we get rid of furnace_active inactive broken or shit stuff
14:34 RealBadAngel to save game data?
14:34 jin_xi yes
14:35 RealBadAngel use the same way i did for variables
14:35 RealBadAngel serialize and deserialize
14:35 jin_xi yes
14:35 jin_xi but i tried to minimize calls to set/get meta and serialize
14:35 RealBadAngel theyre needed
14:36 jin_xi ah well, wasted work i feel
14:36 RealBadAngel and dont worry as much bout them
14:36 jin_xi i know, but i thought i could do it only once per step
14:36 jin_xi but i think you're right
14:36 jin_xi on another note: i will never again translate code
14:36 RealBadAngel remember better is always an enemy of good
14:37 RealBadAngel trying to things get better fuck them up often :)
14:37 jin_xi lol i should know by now, but i don't
14:39 Penguin Coder Are You On A Server
14:40 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/nodedef.png
14:40 RealBadAngel default dirt treated with tester tool 2
14:40 RealBadAngel all sides have different textures
14:43 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/nodedef2.png view from behind
14:44 RealBadAngel i think this patch is a must have
14:44 RealBadAngel mods will get whole lot shorter thx to it
14:45 KikaRz RealBadAngel
14:46 KikaRz i've found many mithril
14:46 KikaRz but not DIAMONDS
14:46 KikaRz THEY ARE TOO RARE!
14:46 RealBadAngel you have bad luck then
14:47 RealBadAngel last time i went digging i got like 40 of them
14:47 RealBadAngel got 2 stacks of diamonds at my base
14:52 KikaRz its in caves?
14:53 KikaRz Omg
14:53 ruskie I managed to get 70 at one time
14:54 KikaRz no more pickaxes.
14:54 KikaRz need to go back
14:54 ruskie you don't have any sticks and cobble or mese?
14:55 KikaRz i got the Pickaxe of the gods
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14:59 KikaRz 7 mithrils
14:59 KikaRz 9 stacks of cobble
15:00 Penguin Coder I am tthe only persoon thats ben on the server to day :9
15:00 Octupus Hola
15:00 Octupus Hello
15:00 Octupus Hi Penguin
15:00 OldCoder Penguin, it is early in the U.S.
15:00 OldCoder Octupus, Aloha
15:00 KikaRz getting mithrel dust...
15:01 OldCoder Penguin You may wish to mention the lava mine to Octupus
15:01 KikaRz 14 dusts..
15:01 Octupus Lava mine?
15:01 OldCoder Remember to discuss with Baby Face as well
15:01 harrison She ankled seductively into the voxel sauna. A sheen of tiny blocks of sweat soon covered her upper lip area.
15:01 OldCoder Octupus, he says there is a mine that has a bit of lava
15:01 Octupus :O
15:01 OldCoder May wish to block it off or WorldEdit it away
15:01 OldCoder I can back up before any experiments
15:02 OldCoder harrison that sounds like an interesting ebook
15:02 KikaRz RealBadAngel, what i do with 14 mithrel dusts?
15:02 OldCoder MT: The Final Frenzy
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15:02 RealBadAngel you can make 7 doped waffers
15:02 KikaRz Its the necessary ?
15:02 KikaRz for that panels?
15:02 Octupus Hi RealBadAngel
15:02 RealBadAngel if you want to have panels, yes
15:03 RealBadAngel hi
15:03 KikaRz yea
15:03 KikaRz The energy is faster with panels
15:03 Octupus OldCoder: Il see what I can do when I get on pc
15:03 Penguin Thanks
15:04 KikaRz how i make doped waffers?
15:04 KikaRz in furnace?
15:05 RealBadAngel alloy furnace
15:05 RealBadAngel first make silicon wafer out of sand and coal dust
15:05 KikaRz that is?
15:05 KikaRz how i make that?
15:06 RealBadAngel coal dust you make in grinder
15:06 KikaRz Yep.. but silicon wafer?
15:07 RealBadAngel 2sand+2 coal dust in alloy furnace gives you 1 silicon wafer
15:07 RealBadAngel 1 silicon wafer + 2 mithril dusts -> 1 doped wafer
15:07 KikaRz whats that furnace?
15:07 RealBadAngel Alloy Furnace
15:08 KikaRz how i make it?
15:08 RealBadAngel theres coal driven one, or electric one
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15:08 RealBadAngel output = 'technic:alloy_furnace',
15:08 RealBadAngel recipe = {
15:08 RealBadAngel {'default:brick', 'default:brick', 'default:brick'},
15:08 RealBadAngel {'default:brick', '', 'default:brick'},
15:08 RealBadAngel {'default:steel_ingot', 'moreores:copper_ingot', 'default:steel_ingot'},
15:08 RealBadAngel }
15:08 RealBadAngel output = 'technic:coal_alloy_furnace',
15:09 RealBadAngel recipe = {
15:09 RealBadAngel {'default:brick', 'default:brick', 'default:brick'},
15:09 RealBadAngel {'default:brick', '', 'default:brick'},
15:09 RealBadAngel {'default:brick', 'default:brick', 'default:brick'},
15:09 RealBadAngel }
15:09 KikaRz brick = that brick block or 1 brik?
15:09 RealBadAngel brick block
15:09 Octupus Np Penguin
15:09 KikaRz got 99
15:10 KikaRz need energy to work?
15:10 Penguin Coder And Octu  Lava Pools Are At 1221.7,-1090.5,48.9 can u clear all of lava not cover the top i will be on the server but afk for 1 hour
15:10 Penguin AFK
15:11 Octupus Alright
15:11 ruskie what's the panic about lava?
15:12 Octupus Lava pool
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15:18 Penguin_ hi
15:18 KikaRz got 9 doped wafers
15:18 Octupus Hi Penguin_
15:19 Penguin_ hi I am on my black berry its well weird
15:19 Octupus Kay
15:20 Penguin_ have you don't it
15:20 Penguin_ What time You Do ing it
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15:22 Octupus Soon when. I get pc
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15:22 KikaRz how i make a mitril chest?
15:23 KikaRz Calinou
15:23 Penguin_ lol
15:23 Calinou KikaRz: there are no mithril chests in more ores :)
15:23 Calinou they're in technic
15:23 KikaRz ok
15:23 KikaRz so RealBadAngel
15:24 Calinou (unrelated) happy birthday minecraft 1.0
15:24 Calinou :p
15:24 RealBadAngel start from iron chest
15:25 RealBadAngel surround wooden chest with steel ingots
15:25 RealBadAngel then iron one with copper
15:25 KikaRz wait
15:25 Jordach Calinou - wanna craft a cake
15:25 RealBadAngel silver, gold and finally with mithril
15:25 Calinou Jordach: no milk :(
15:26 Jordach to MOBf
15:26 Jordach <sarcasm/>
15:26 KikaRz hey
15:26 KikaRz a mithril locked chest is with iron in the middle?
15:27 RealBadAngel no, the gold one
15:28 RealBadAngel you have to upgrade your chests
15:28 RealBadAngel john_minetest, talk to OldCoder
15:28 KikaRz No
15:29 KikaRz He's running out of servers
15:29 KikaRz getting without memory
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15:37 OdnetninI minetest.net is down, no?
15:38 Penguin_ joined #minetest
15:38 babyface1031 hi Octupus
15:38 Octupus Hi babyface1031 and Penguin_
15:38 babyface1031 hi Penguin
15:39 Penguin_ hi I will be in in 10 minits. AFK on server
15:40 babyface1031 ok
15:41 Penguin_ :) are you on server
15:41 KikaRz Ohai babyface1031
15:41 babyface1031 hi
15:41 KikaRz People, who can enter into this server ? im alone
15:41 babyface1031 yes i am
15:41 KikaRz minetest.sytes.net:30002
15:41 KikaRz No
15:41 KikaRz minetest.sytes.net:30001
15:41 KikaRz that
15:41 KikaRz 30001
15:41 Penguin_ is it just you and me AFK
15:41 babyface1031 i am on Octupus server port 30004
15:41 babyface1031 at minetest.org
15:41 babyface1031 yes
15:42 Octupus :)
15:42 Penguin_ Octupus Server 30004 is the best server have ever been on :)
15:42 Octupus babyface1031: I haven't seen silverwolf in awhile
15:42 Octupus How nice Penguin_ :)
15:42 babyface1031 me too i think she isnt coming over
15:43 Penguin_ I mean it octu
15:43 KikaRz going to try to discover again diamond. ft. RealBadAngel
15:43 Octupus :)
15:44 KikaRz FOUND DIAMOND!
15:44 KikaRz 2 diamonds *-*
15:44 Penguin_ I have 178 dimonds lol
15:45 Octupus Lolz
15:46 Penguin_ baby face are you any good at mesecons
15:46 babyface1031 some depends on what it is
15:47 Penguin_ micro controlor
15:47 OldCoder Hi
15:47 Octupus Hi OldCoder
15:47 babyface1031 Hi @OldCoder
15:47 Penguin_ hi Coder :)
15:47 babyface1031 i have one i am not useing you can have
15:47 OldCoder john_minetest, I am running low on CPU. It would need to be a good world.
15:48 Calinou you're low on CPU with one server with amazon...
15:48 Calinou ...unless they have ads
15:48 Penguin_ baby face I mean do you now how to use then
15:48 Penguin_ I am going on server now
15:49 OldCoder Calinou, I am running about 18 worlds now
15:49 OldCoder Including *yours* :P
15:50 OldCoder Calinou, speaking of which make it possible for people to escape that entry trap or we'll need to move spawn
15:50 OldCoder Right now I need to TP people out of there
15:50 babyface1031 oh you use them for other mesecon stuff
15:50 OldCoder john_minetest, the world looks good
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15:52 KikaRz yep
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15:52 KikaRz Calinou, i've been stucked below the trampoline
15:55 KikaRz RealBadAngel
15:55 KikaRz What i can do with 3 diamonds XD
15:55 KikaRz ?
15:56 KikaRz A laser miner
15:57 RealBadAngel for a laser you need just one diamond
15:57 RealBadAngel for mining drill 13 i think
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15:58 KikaRz a laser what does?
15:58 KikaRz just mines stone?
15:59 KikaRz '-'
15:59 KikaRz RealBAdAngel
16:00 RealBadAngel hold on
16:00 RealBadAngel using laser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L44DC_UYx4&amp;feature=plcp
16:01 RealBadAngel you may find interesting also other vids in my channel
16:01 RealBadAngel theyre mostly on technic features
16:01 KikaRz what is better?
16:01 KikaRz a drill or a laser?
16:03 KikaRz oh, i thinked that was automatic
16:03 KikaRz and it was saving minerals , stone etc in a chest
16:05 RealBadAngel with laser you can quickly make tunnels
16:06 RealBadAngel mining drill digs in old fashion way but it works with maximum digging speed with any object
16:06 RealBadAngel and both are recharcheable tools
16:06 RealBadAngel they dont break, you need to recharge them just in battery box
16:06 KikaRz ok
16:06 KikaRz but whats the range
16:06 KikaRz of drill and laser?
16:07 RealBadAngel laser range is about 10 nodes
16:07 KikaRz nodes are?
16:07 KikaRz blocks?
16:07 RealBadAngel mining drill works same way as picks, you have to point the node you want to dig
16:08 RealBadAngel blocks are groups of nodes, 16x16x16
16:08 RealBadAngel node is single stone, wood etc
16:09 RealBadAngel so with one laser shot you can dig up to 10 nodes
16:09 KikaRz how i make eletric furnace?
16:09 RealBadAngel {'default:cobble', 'default:cobble', 'default:cobble'},
16:09 RealBadAngel {'default:cobble', '', 'default:cobble'},
16:09 RealBadAngel {'default:steel_ingot', 'moreores:copper_ingot', 'default:steel_ingot'},
16:11 KikaRz using eletric furnace is faster
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16:12 Dogzilla131 is there a mod to make aboat?
16:12 Dogzilla131 *a boat
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16:13 KikaRz I guess yes.
16:13 KikaRz if not, we can do that
16:13 PilzAdam there is no boat mod
16:13 KikaRz Pilz
16:13 KikaRz there is a way to make one
16:13 KikaRz based in that rail ...
16:13 KikaRz rail...
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16:13 Dogzilla131 or on ice
16:13 Dogzilla131 ice floats
16:13 RealBadAngel making boat mod will make sense when Taoki code will get merged
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16:14 RealBadAngel until then boats will suffer same glitches as carts
16:14 KikaRz yea, there is a cart mod
16:14 KikaRz how we craft the cart?
16:15 RealBadAngel carts now are not really useable
16:15 RealBadAngel and servers rather dont have this mod
16:16 KikaRz have 8 mithril lumps.
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16:17 OldCoder NakedFury, hi
16:17 NakedFury hi
16:17 RealBadAngel hi
16:17 KikaRz RealBadAngel
16:17 KikaRz what we really need to do a ... wafer?
16:17 KikaRz 2 sands...
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16:18 KikaRz RealBadAngel, how i make the laser?
16:19 RealBadAngel 2 sands and 2 coal dusts
16:20 RealBadAngel output = 'technic:laser_mk1',
16:20 RealBadAngel recipe = {
16:20 RealBadAngel {'technic:diamond', 'default:steel_ingot', 'technic:battery'},
16:20 RealBadAngel {'', 'default:steel_ingot', 'technic:battery'},
16:20 RealBadAngel {'', '', 'moreores:copper_ingot'},
16:20 RealBadAngel }
16:21 Calinou RealBadAngel: you should add a minetest.conf entry for disabling laser/drill ;)
16:22 RealBadAngel i already added that to /technic/config.lua
16:22 RealBadAngel will be out with next update
16:22 KikaRz why we cant use desert sand? :c
16:22 RealBadAngel made lotsa things configurable
16:23 RealBadAngel if you need sand, cook coble to stone, then grind stone to sand
16:26 KikaRz Hey
16:26 KikaRz tell me all things that we must do for solar pane
16:28 KikaRz got silicon wafles
16:28 RealBadAngel now put them with mithril dusts into alloy furnace
16:29 KikaRz ok
16:29 RealBadAngel for solar panel you need 8 of them and copper ingot in the middle
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16:50 Octupus
16:50 KikaRz charging my laser *-*
16:51 Octupus What's your make up
16:51 Octupus Crayons maybe?
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16:56 Penguin OldCoder Big Thanks To BabyFace1031 As She Cleared The Lava Pools Thanks BabyFace1031
16:56 OldCoder Hi
16:56 OldCoder babyface1031, thank you!
16:57 babyface1031 np first time clearing lave
16:57 babyface1031 *lava
16:57 OldCoder Lava is not the best neighbor
16:57 OldCoder Makes life interesting
16:57 babyface1031 well i have a lava moat so i dont mind it
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16:57 OldCoder lava moat needs a boat to float
16:59 KikaRz With your pretty laser, i found 1 diamond!
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17:04 * ruskie tends to use lava in his builds
17:13 KikaRz RealBadAngel
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17:13 KikaRz This laser isnt very efficient
17:13 KikaRz look what i got:
17:13 KikaRz 19 stacks of cobble:
17:13 KikaRz 31 iron
17:13 KikaRz 7 clay
17:13 KikaRz 31 gravel
17:13 KikaRz 1 diamond
17:14 KikaRz 1 arol, copper and mithril
17:14 RealBadAngel you mean its not overpowered ;) recharge it just
17:14 KikaRz 3 golds 1 tallnite 3 calnite
17:15 RealBadAngel i do have 4 lasers, 5 mining drills, battery box, and blue energy crystal in my pocket
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17:15 RealBadAngel to recharge tools when im on digging
17:15 KikaRz blue energy crystal = ?
17:15 RealBadAngel dont forget the flashlight
17:15 KikaRz lol
17:15 KikaRz no problem with flashlights
17:15 KikaRz i use fly
17:15 KikaRz then randomly use laser
17:15 RealBadAngel fly is like cheating
17:16 RealBadAngel at least on survival servers
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17:16 RealBadAngel to make energy crystals you need 9 diamonds
17:17 KikaRz what that does?
17:17 RealBadAngel its a portable battery
17:17 RealBadAngel blue one is circa like 10 batboxes
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17:20 KikaRz tthat laser is not OVER POWAAAAAH!
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17:21 YuGiOhJCJ Hello, when I want to compile I got this error :
17:21 ruskie it lacks finesse
17:21 YuGiOhJCJ celeron55-minetest-5292476/src/util/serialize.h:31:32: error: reference to ‘u64’ is ambiguous
17:21 KikaRz RealBadAngel
17:21 KikaRz That laser is not over powah
17:21 YuGiOhJCJ do you know what to do?
17:22 RealBadAngel YuGiOhJCJ, what os?
17:22 YuGiOhJCJ RealBadAngel, Slackware 13.37
17:22 KikaRz LE.ET
17:22 KikaRz '-'
17:22 RealBadAngel intstalled all required libraries?
17:24 YuGiOhJCJ mmm not sure... I just download the irrlicht-1.8 and I compiled like this : cmake . -DIRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR=... -DIRRLICHT_LIBRARY=... -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1
17:24 YuGiOhJCJ I will read the readme.txt file again to see if I miss something
17:24 RealBadAngel readme.txt line #78
17:25 RealBadAngel minetest is not workin with irrlicht 1.8
17:25 RealBadAngel yet
17:25 RealBadAngel use exact dependecies as in the readme
17:26 YuGiOhJCJ the problem is in the readme file I see only the Debian specific packages
17:26 YuGiOhJCJ But the equivalent packages are installed on my Slackware
17:26 thexyz RealBadAngel: really? it worked for me (and some other users too)
17:27 RealBadAngel edit boxes with 1.8 are not displayed correctly
17:27 YuGiOhJCJ ok 1.7
17:27 RealBadAngel thats why Jeija prepared a patch for minetest
17:28 RealBadAngel default colors of background and font are different
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17:28 YuGiOhJCJ is it enough to download irrlicht like I do or I need to build and install it ?
17:29 OldCoder Hi. We're going to give people their own avatars. Would anybody like to help me draw some?
17:29 OldCoder Similar to this:
17:29 OldCoder http://minetest.org/player.png
17:29 RealBadAngel i guess installing 1.7.1 is just fine
17:29 OldCoder http://minetest.org/player_back.png
17:29 babyface1031 ohh own avata :D
17:29 OldCoder Yep
17:29 OldCoder I need pictures the shape of those two
17:29 OldCoder Will anybody help draw some?
17:29 OldCoder Think it over and get back to me
17:30 babyface1031 i would but i not a good drawer D:
17:30 OldCoder Must be twice as high as long. Preferably 256 by 128.
17:30 OldCoder Two pictures, PNG format, front and back of player.
17:30 babyface1031 i dont even know where to start
17:30 RealBadAngel draw a head ;)
17:30 YuGiOhJCJ but I have 1.7.3 on the official website... Not 1.7.1... Do you think it's a problem?
17:30 KikaRz hey
17:30 OldCoder NekoGloop can be a cat. RealBadAngel... maybe an angel with weapons.
17:31 KikaRz im going to make my own
17:31 KikaRz :D
17:31 OldCoder Go for it
17:31 babyface1031 do i use paint or what program to start
17:31 KikaRz pixel editor?
17:31 RealBadAngel OldCoder, with my own player model i wait for 3D players
17:32 YuGiOhJCJ forget what I said, as we are on sourceforge, I can get the 1.7.1
17:32 OldCoder RealBadAngel, You can have 2D angels too
17:33 NakedFury waiting for 3d models too
17:33 RealBadAngel i will try to draw one
17:33 NakedFury going to be so much better to have them
17:33 Jordach NakedFury - the texture is made by me
17:33 RealBadAngel i think one from Heroes of might and magic 3 would be cool
17:33 KikaRz my model will be the best
17:33 KikaRz :p
17:33 KikaRz we can use pixel editor?
17:34 NakedFury I do wish we can have later an original character model
17:34 KikaRz hey, OldCoder
17:34 RealBadAngel http://www.celestialheavens.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3380
17:34 KikaRz how will you get own player models?
17:34 RealBadAngel you can make your own textures
17:34 RealBadAngel or use minecraft ones
17:35 RealBadAngel formats are compatible
17:35 Calinou do not use minecraft textures
17:35 Calinou these are not under a free license
17:35 Calinou and 103.6% of community-made minecraft skins are not under a free license
17:35 RealBadAngel theres a site with free skins and the creator
17:35 YuGiOhJCJ also... I am wondering why the minetest.net web  site is down... Is there a problem with the server?
17:35 Calinou what license? CC BY-NC-ND?
17:35 * Calinou actually seen someone using that license
17:35 Calinou YuGiOhJCJ: there is :/
17:35 KikaRz Calinou
17:36 KikaRz if its our own models from minecraft
17:36 KikaRz we can  use tbhem
17:36 KikaRz -.-
17:36 thexyz Calinou: most minecraft texture packs are under that license iirc
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17:36 RealBadAngel http://www.minershoes.com/
17:36 KikaRz going to take a shower
17:36 Calinou thexyz: lol no
17:36 RealBadAngel those are not from texture packs
17:36 Calinou more like "all rights reserved" :)
17:36 RealBadAngel or the game
17:37 RealBadAngel players work
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17:38 PilzAdam when will the forum be back up?
17:38 RealBadAngel Content licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License.
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17:38 Calinou ah
17:38 RealBadAngel hundreds of player skins
17:41 ruskie I really should make a skin from my avatar
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17:43 OldCoder mrtux, Hi. Octupus wb
17:43 Octupus Thank you babyface1031
17:43 OldCoder Apparently there is already a mod for player avatars
17:43 mrtux hi oldcoder
17:43 Octupus Hi OldCoder
17:44 OldCoder So I don't need to patch anything
17:44 OldCoder Skins will be added to my worlds soon
17:44 babyface1031 ty for what?
17:44 babyface1031 cool
17:44 Octupus For clearing da lava
17:51 babyface1031 oh np
17:51 Octupus :)
17:52 RealBadAngel nice skin editor: http://minecraft.novaskin.me/
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17:54 NakedFury using //stack y -1000 goes at most -80 layers with WorldEdit
17:54 YuGiOhJCJ Ok with irrlicht 1.7.1 the build is completed at 100% but I got an error at the end
17:55 YuGiOhJCJ sky.cpp:(.text._ZN3irr5scene10ISceneNode11getMaterialEj[irr::scene::ISceneNode::getMaterial(unsigned int)]+0x1): undefined reference to `irr::video::IdentityMaterial'
17:56 YuGiOhJCJ Do you see why it doesn't find the reference?
17:57 YuGiOhJCJ more details here : http://pastebin.com/A74r4752
17:58 KikaRz back
17:58 KikaRz oh, everybody waited for me to contineu here
17:58 Jordach YuGiOhJCJ - upgrade Irrlicht to 1.7.3
17:59 YuGiOhJCJ ok
18:00 babyface1031 @Oldcoder is the novaskin what our avatars will come from
18:01 YuGiOhJCJ here we go for a new build -_-'
18:01 OldCoder babyface1031, I haven't tried it. Pretty much any good quality 2x1 aspect ratio front and back PNGs should work
18:01 KikaRz I got a idea for our new skins and avatars!
18:01 KikaRz OldCoder
18:01 OldCoder KikaRz, yes
18:01 KikaRz we can make a server that host the skins, avatars etc
18:01 OldCoder Go on
18:01 KikaRz then we use there the Forum accounts
18:01 babyface1031 it is neat lot of diffrent stuff to add
18:01 OldCoder Sure
18:01 KikaRz In there, we can upload skins
18:02 KikaRz and we can choose in the client which skin we use
18:02 OldCoder Whatever works; there are different options
18:02 KikaRz yep
18:02 Octupus Call me maybe?
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18:02 OldCoder ?
18:02 OldCoder "Me:
18:02 OldCoder "Me"
18:02 KikaRz like: Client skin is uploaded to the server (server will get laggy)
18:04 KikaRz or... The server got a blist of skins and the using users
18:06 PilzAdam Taoki, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRd25ZdZZI4
18:09 KikaRz OldCoder
18:09 KikaRz Did you know that...
18:09 OldCoder Yes?
18:09 OldCoder PilzAdam, you hadn't mentioned your skins mod
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18:10 KikaRz Minetest is done 45 % by perttu, 25 % by users and 30 % by modificators ?
18:10 KikaRz the users and coders are helping for minetest
18:11 PilzAdam OldCoder, what?
18:11 Calinou fun fact: on minetest's ohloh page, c-fifty-five has lower "kudos" than another random contributor that "broke liquids, IIRC"
18:11 Calinou :)
18:15 KikaRz RealBadAngel
18:15 KikaRz tell me other forms to produce energy.
18:15 KikaRz because i got a lot of cobble
18:15 OldCoder PilzAdam, I'm told that you did a player texture mod
18:15 OldCoder <john_minetest> yes. it is called player_textures by pilzadam.
18:16 RealBadAngel KikaRz, make water mills
18:16 KikaRz how?
18:17 RealBadAngel KikaRz, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kZPbNXl6T0&amp;feature=plcp
18:17 KikaRz i cant visit youtube sites
18:17 KikaRz when ingame
18:17 KikaRz tell me in query
18:17 RealBadAngel too complicated, exit the game then watch
18:18 Jordach aw man. minetest.net still down
18:18 Jordach also: we have 90+ users here!! :D
18:19 KikaRz 26 stacks of cobble
18:19 KikaRz X_X'
18:19 KikaRz what i do with it?
18:20 KikaRz ...
18:20 KikaRz you smart.
18:20 KikaRz -.-'
18:20 KikaRz need to make a storage
18:21 KikaRz like in my old house
18:21 KikaRz youtube.com/joaoadriano3
18:21 KikaRz look at that video that i recorded
18:21 KikaRz mr RealBadAngel, tell me the recipe
18:22 Octupus Hmmmmmmmmm soup
18:22 RealBadAngel {'default:stone', 'default:stone', 'default:stone'},
18:22 RealBadAngel {'default:wood', 'technic:diamond', 'default:wood'},
18:22 RealBadAngel {'default:stone', 'moreores:copper_ingot', 'default:stone'},
18:22 OldCoder Soup Is Good Food
18:22 Octupus I'm eating soup :)
18:22 RealBadAngel me too, right now
18:23 NakedFury I like tomato soup
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18:23 KikaRz Lol
18:23 Octupus I got chicken soup
18:23 Octupus ;)
18:24 NakedFury spicy or normal.
18:24 KikaRz I got vegetables soap
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18:24 artur99 hi
18:24 OldCoder artur99, Hi
18:24 OldCoder artur99, how are things?
18:24 KikaRz Artur, bem vindo! Vejo que é de Portugal/Brasil.
18:25 artur99 im romanian
18:25 OldCoder KikaRz, he does not speak Portuguese
18:25 KikaRz ok
18:25 Octupus Normal NakedFury
18:25 KikaRz '-'
18:25 OldCoder *Portugese
18:25 KikaRz ** PORTUGUESE
18:25 OldCoder Sorry
18:25 KikaRz artur, your IP is natural from Portugal
18:25 OldCoder Em boca cerrado nao entra mosca!
18:25 KikaRz -.-
18:25 artur99 who is the owner of the europe server?
18:25 KikaRz o_o'
18:25 OldCoder Me
18:25 KikaRz oldcoder
18:25 OldCoder <-- Europe
18:25 KikaRz Fecha a boca senão entra uma mosca.
18:25 KikaRz thats the true sentence
18:26 OldCoder KikaRz, I only remember a little of the language
18:26 OldCoder My aunt speaks it
18:26 artur99 and why i cant acces it sometimes?
18:26 OldCoder artur99, How often?
18:26 Octupus OldCoder: Where's the fly
18:26 OldCoder artur99, It is usually up
18:26 OldCoder Octupus, Apparently buzzing outside the closed mouth
18:26 artur99 20h/24h
18:26 OldCoder Angry because it cannot get in
18:26 Octupus :D
18:26 OldCoder artur99, The server is usually up
18:26 artur99 randomly
18:26 OldCoder artur99, The server is usually up
18:26 artur99 up?
18:26 OldCoder Running. Working.
18:27 OldCoder Healthy. Happy. Living a good life.
18:27 artur99 so often?
18:27 OldCoder Dieting. Exercising.
18:27 OldCoder It is a good server.
18:27 artur99 and when will be playlable?
18:27 OldCoder artur99, Right now
18:27 artur99 KikaRz where do u know my ip?
18:27 OldCoder It should be up now
18:28 artur99 ok, ill try
18:28 KikaRz == artur99 [d5e95c60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.233.92.96] has joined #minetest
18:28 artur99 aaa
18:28 artur99 i must make my ip dinamyc
18:29 KikaRz not my problem
18:29 KikaRz but yes, IRC
18:29 artur99 now is working...
18:29 artur99 bun when will be a server full?
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18:30 OldCoder artur99, Can you explain the question?
18:30 artur99 the servers are so deserted
18:30 OldCoder Then we must fill them
18:30 OldCoder With joy and celebration
18:30 OldCoder Dancing in the virtual streets
18:31 Jordach here we go, the jester must be singing
18:31 artur99 i have some ideas for this game:
18:31 artur99 to exist cars, boats, and road
18:31 Calinou servers.minetest.ru has way too much players, this is worsened by the lack of player count
18:31 Calinou servers*
18:31 OldCoder Calinou, send them to your world
18:31 Calinou lags
18:31 OldCoder Calinou, and BTW see my note above about the trampoline
18:32 OldCoder Are they in Europe?
18:32 artur99 who?
18:32 KikaRz RealBadAngel
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18:32 KikaRz Send me agian your furnace and water mill recipe
18:33 YuGiOhJCJ Jordach, I got the same error with irrlicht 1.7.3
18:33 Jordach odd, using OpenGL?
18:33 Jordach (or at least, OpenGL version.)
18:33 YuGiOhJCJ sky.cpp:(.text._ZN3irr5scene10ISceneNode11getMaterialEj[irr::scene::ISceneNode::getMaterial(unsigned int)]+0x1): undefined reference to `irr::video::IdentityMaterial'
18:33 KikaRz Use 1.8.1
18:34 YuGiOhJCJ no because 1.8 version can't be used to compile minetest
18:34 YuGiOhJCJ if I do this, I got a lot of errors
18:34 YuGiOhJCJ whereas with 1.7 I have no problem : 100% build
18:35 YuGiOhJCJ just an error at the end
18:35 artur99 when will exist cars, boats and roads? Something like road mod
18:36 KikaRz Welcome back sfan
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18:37 YuGiOhJCJ do you see why I got this error?
18:40 artur99 europe server isnt working again
18:42 artur99 i cant play on this server... Yesterday i tried at 6 different hours, and i couldnt connect
18:43 artur99 i think ill quit this game forever...
18:43 ruskie enjoy your forever
18:43 artur99 :)
18:45 artur99 i said i think, i didint say that i will quit...
18:46 KikaRz NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
18:46 KikaRz artur, do not do that
18:46 KikaRz we are united.
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18:47 KikaRz we are 60 % of the game!
18:47 KikaRz 40% is celeron
18:47 KikaRz 60  = coders and users
18:48 artur99 but how to be an user if i cant play the game?
18:48 KikaRz you can play in singleplayer and in multiplayer
18:48 KikaRz you got A LOT OF SERVERS
18:48 ruskie so connect to some others
18:49 artur99 yes, but i dont want to play singleplayer...
18:49 artur99 where can i find a list?
18:50 NakedFury try minetest.org 30000 to 30015
18:50 artur99 ok
18:50 ruskie http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/#SECTION02 <-- there's of them here
18:51 ruskie and on the forums there's a section of minecraft servers as well
18:51 artur99 minetest.org is working?
18:51 OldCoder artur99, Yes
18:51 OldCoder artur99, That is my site
18:52 OldCoder artur99, Europe has been up
18:52 OldCoder There may be a problem with Romania Internet
18:52 artur99 how much time is europe up?
18:52 ruskie yeah europe was up earlire today... I connected there
18:52 artur99 is a problem with my internet connection
18:52 ruskie a couple of hours ago
18:53 artur99 a couple oh hours= all the day?
18:53 OldCoder artur99, I think almost all the time recently except for a little while yesterday
18:53 OldCoder There was an outage
18:53 OldCoder A day or two back with the host
18:53 OldCoder But that was only an hour or two
19:00 artur99 how much players are playing on minetest.org?
19:00 artur99 30000
19:00 KikaRz im not.
19:01 artur99 who is?
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19:03 artur99 is eny server with animals?
19:04 artur99 aaa
19:04 artur99 no, in general...
19:05 artur99 why i cant dig?
19:05 ruskie because usually one needs to ask for interact permissions on servers one is playing on
19:05 ruskie it's an antigriefing meassure
19:05 artur99 aaa
19:06 artur99 and who can i ask for this?
19:06 OldCoder For which servers?
19:06 artur99 minetest.org 30000
19:06 NakedFury I am in server 30000
19:07 NakedFury testing worledit and checking the -1000 level bug
19:07 artur99 and who can give me the interact permision
19:07 artur99 ?
19:08 NakedFury I can I guess, need to check the command
19:08 KikaRz /grant artur99 interact
19:08 OldCoder NakedFury, I can increase that to -1100
19:09 NakedFury ok artur99 got interact
19:09 OldCoder artur99, Join whatever worlds you wish. If I stop the servers temporary I can enable your copies en masse
19:09 artur99 thanks
19:09 NakedFury did you finally find what the problem was OldCoder??
19:09 OldCoder Yes
19:09 OldCoder NakedFury, glomie protector
19:09 OldCoder Has hard coded limit. I can increase it.
19:09 NakedFury ohh
19:10 OldCoder We tested this on 30004 and no problems observed yet
19:10 artur99 waw... this server is so nice...
19:10 OldCoder Waw?
19:10 artur99 naked, can u give permision to my brother too?
19:11 ruskie he's still learning english ;)
19:11 NakedFury name?
19:11 artur99 yes, waw ;)
19:11 artur99 iulyus01
19:11 OldCoder Julius?
19:11 OldCoder Both of you have fun
19:11 NakedFury ok gave it to that iulyus01 user
19:12 artur99 thanks...
19:12 artur99 yes! julius, why?
19:12 OldCoder Curious about name
19:12 OldCoder No big deal
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19:13 artur99 aaa
19:13 NakedFury just saw iulyus01 in my stairs to underground project
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19:15 mito551 hello
19:17 NakedFury what is the link to check minetest commands?
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19:20 Jordach ./privs <player name>
19:20 NakedFury is that to check what the commands are?
19:21 ruskie maybe /help ?
19:21 Jordach Fury, explain a little more
19:21 NakedFury there was a site where I could see all the default commands for the game
19:22 NakedFury for teleport, grant, giveme, etc
19:29 VanessaE hi all
19:29 * VanessaE peeks in for a few
19:30 OldCoder I need to reboot my VPS
19:30 OldCoder All the worlds will be down for 5 minutes
19:30 NakedFury ok
19:30 babyface1031 ok
19:30 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi
19:31 KikaRz Vanessa, Hi E.
19:31 KikaRz x
19:31 KikaRz Xd
19:31 Jordach hey VanessaE
19:31 VanessaE hi hi
19:31 Jordach Taoki - I've been practicing my skinning techniques
19:32 Jordach VanessaE - earlier we had 91 users in #minetest
19:33 artur99 joined #minetest
19:33 NakedFury we need 91 users on a server too
19:34 artur99 what is with minetest.org server?
19:34 artur99 i cant connect
19:34 VanessaE nice
19:34 OldCoder artur99, I am updating it
19:35 Jordach artur99 - fixing bugs
19:35 OldCoder Worlds should be back up
19:35 OldCoder I am working on the website though
19:36 artur99 when will can i paly?
19:36 OldCoder Now
19:36 OldCoder Right now
19:36 artur99 what updates?
19:36 OldCoder Website work
19:36 artur99 aaa
19:36 NakedFury another thing server owners need: a way to make server messages
19:37 artur99 can i find anywhere a list with all crafting elements?
19:37 NakedFury the forums
19:37 NakedFury but they are down I think
19:37 OldCoder We do need redundancy for that
19:38 artur99 all teh crafting in a single page...
19:38 artur99 *the
19:39 Jordach and the google cache dont last forever
19:39 KikaRz RealBadAngel
19:39 VanessaE hm... forums are down?
19:39 KikaRz Yes
19:39 OldCoder Again yes
19:39 VanessaE :(
19:39 KikaRz since 3 AM (GMT)
19:39 VanessaE damn
19:40 VanessaE celeron55: *ping*
19:40 NakedFury artur having problems?
19:40 artur99 yes
19:40 artur99 some exceptions:
19:40 NakedFury exit the game then launch it again
19:40 artur99 i tried 4 tumes
19:40 artur99 *times
19:41 ruskie what we need is a git repo with all the crafting recipes and their origin that anyone can then process into a site quickly
19:41 artur99 yes
19:42 artur99 id really like something like this...
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19:42 Penguin Hi
19:43 VanessaE ruskie: there used to be such a thing.  Cornernote made it.
19:43 VanessaE which of course means it's gone now.
19:43 NakedFury a pdf file made very clean and profesional showing all mods used by OldCoder or the server. each mod has a section showing explanations and recipes
19:43 ruskie VanessaE, it's still there
19:43 artur99 yes, but itll be niceer with images
19:43 ruskie VanessaE, iirc he did put all of his mods back
19:43 Penguin coder
19:43 OldCoder I thought he put it back
19:43 OldCoder Penguin, ?
19:43 VanessaE wow, so he did
19:43 ruskie VanessaE, still requires the server admin to run it
19:44 Penguin Hi Why Did Server Shut Down
19:44 ruskie Penguin, you need to elaborate
19:44 artur99 adn where can i downlaod that pdf
19:44 artur99 ?
19:44 ruskie john_minetest, having it in git means it's easy to distribute
19:44 Penguin I Was AFK
19:44 NakedFury pdf doesnt exist
19:44 artur99 aaa
19:45 Jordach bbl in 15 mins
19:46 ruskie john_minetest, git supports any file you throw in
19:46 ruskie john_minetest, it would just be the repo
19:46 VanessaE I've used github before to host screenshots of mods and such
19:46 ruskie you would still run it through a tool to generate a site with it all
19:47 KikaRz using craft book recipe
19:47 KikaRz that mod
19:47 KikaRz yep
19:47 ruskie but with git you would a) limit update privs to those that actually do mods b) make it easily distributable
19:47 KikaRz RealBadAngel, wake up please and read query.
19:54 marktraceur Question for y'all: Can you access http://gitlab.marktraceur.info/mt_gears or does it give you a login page?
19:54 artur99 apears a loginpage to me
19:54 marktraceur Damn.
19:55 artur99 damn?
19:55 marktraceur Apparently gitlab won't cooperate, so I'll have to either use my old gitweb site or add the projects to gitorious.
19:55 artur99 i have no account....
19:55 KikaRz me too
19:58 artur99 can i caraft a tnt?
19:59 VanessaE "caraft a tnt" -- what is that, pouring gunpowder into a glass vessel before pouring it into a bomb? :-)
20:02 artur99 i saw tnt in minecraft... i was just asking:)
20:02 KikaRz in technic mod , how i make a grinder?
20:02 NakedFury cant say now, havent memorized the blocks
20:03 marktraceur Things I learned today: HTTP clone for my git hosting has *never* worked. Sadness.
20:03 artur99 grinder:
20:03 artur99 d stone dstone dstone
20:04 artur99 dstone dyamond dstone
20:04 artur99 stone cooper ing stone
20:04 artur99 ing=ingout; dstone=desert stone
20:04 marktraceur It's like they're speaking another language....
20:05 marktraceur artur99: Protip, smaller variable names
20:05 artur99 who
20:05 marktraceur ds ds ds\nds di ds\ns  c  s
20:06 artur99 ns?
20:06 marktraceur artur99: You read the escape character incorrectly, \n means "line break"
20:06 VanessaE dyamond?  cooper?   *facepalm*
20:06 artur99 aaa
20:06 VanessaE ingout?  *sigh*
20:06 marktraceur VanessaE: These whippersnappers ain't never seen rocks, what do you expect?
20:07 Jordach marktraceur - i know my igneous from my metamorphic
20:07 VanessaE protip:  use an IRC client with a built-in spell checker.  Those little red squiggly lines means the word is spelled wrong.
20:07 * marktraceur may not have the right to use the word "whippersnapper" by his age, but his mindset win shim that
20:07 Jordach like xchat
20:07 marktraceur wins him*
20:09 marktraceur artur99: Maybe even better, instead of relying on the spellcheck, turn it off in the editor and write an XChat plugin that will say in-channel "I MISSPELLED SOMETHING, I AM HUMILIATED" every time you make a mistake
20:09 marktraceur Maybe capped on ~ once per five minutes.
20:10 VanessaE lol
20:10 marktraceur That'll learn ya.
20:10 Jordach marktraceur - i know you find it hard to do this non-nerds (that can successfully print "Hello World" in BASIC)
20:11 artur99 a mistake in writing?
20:11 * marktraceur lost that sentence's meaning about halfway through, Jordach
20:11 marktraceur artur99: Yes, what we've been talking about
20:11 ruskie VanessaE, he's not a native speaker, he's young and he's still learning english
20:11 VanessaE no excuses.
20:11 ruskie so instead of facepalming it can help to correct
20:11 VanessaE spelling ~= grammar.
20:11 artur99 im 13, romanian
20:12 artur99 so... :D
20:12 marktraceur OK, let's do that then
20:12 marktraceur artur99: 'diamond', 'copper', 'ingot'
20:12 marktraceur artur99: And feel free to ask if you're not sure :)
20:12 thexyz gitlab is only for private repos
20:12 thexyz it doesn't support public ones
20:13 marktraceur thexyz: Thanks, that helps. I mean, it would have been helpful for me to have figured that out last night, but meh
20:14 thexyz well, at least you now know how to set it up
20:14 marktraceur Going through repo creation in gitorious now :)
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20:15 Kacey hello
20:16 artur99 go to sleep... bye!
20:17 PilzAdam thexyz, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/280#issuecomment-10354095 <- this patch causes that the sapling is not replaced
20:17 PilzAdam can you fix it?
20:18 Kacey hey adam
20:18 marktraceur PilzAdam: Hey, I wound up putting rubber in its own repo last night, see https://gitorious.org/marktraceur-minetest-mods/rubber if you're interested.
20:19 marktraceur (and if you have thoughts on it, I'm welcoming to feedback! :))
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20:19 Kacey is there a crafting recipe for trampolines?
20:20 marktraceur Kacey: You should make it!
20:20 Kacey but is there?
20:20 Kacey god im no good with writing code...
20:20 VanessaE wish I could look it up but the forums are still dead.
20:20 PilzAdam marktraceur, I will maybe remove all the trees from farming
20:21 PilzAdam so its good that you seperated it to its own mod
20:21 VanessaE PilzAdam, thexyz:  regarding trees, is there something that can be done to integrate the functions of bas080's jungletrees mod back into the C++ mapgen so we can have our jungles back?  as a separate mod it's beautiful but dog slow
20:21 thexyz PilzAdam: content_t c =vmanip.getNodeNoExNoEmerge(p1).getContent();  if(c == CONTENT_AIR || c == CONTENT_SAPLING)
20:21 thexyz something like this
20:22 celeron55 ....by the way, has somebody seem bookwar?
20:22 celeron55 the minetest.net domain is going to expire 2012-12-05
20:22 celeron55 seen*
20:22 VanessaE celeron55: never seen it.  re: expired domain, let's make sure we keep it :-)
20:23 celeron55 ehm
20:23 Jordach or we could just wait until its up for sale again
20:23 Jordach then c55 has full power over the domain#
20:23 celeron55 bookwar is the person who has registered it
20:23 VanessaE hah!  didn't realize :-)
20:23 Penguin joined #minetest
20:23 Jordach why not minetest.tk or minetest.co.cc
20:24 Penguin Hi All
20:24 VanessaE didn't I read somewhere that the .co.cc domain was dead
20:24 VanessaE ?
20:24 VanessaE ni Penguin
20:24 Jordach VanessaE - nope.
20:24 thexyz VanessaE: not dead but not indexed by google or something like this
20:24 VanessaE http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/11/15/2215256/free-registrar-cocc-goes-the-way-of-the-dodo
20:24 VanessaE yes, I did read it.
20:25 Jordach well then, .tk works
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20:25 PilzAdam gtg; bye
20:25 thexyz celeron55: i'll try to contact her
20:26 hmmmm ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
20:26 VanessaE hmmmm: almost.  the eyebrows need shifted over :-)
20:26 Penguin (^Ù¼^)
20:26 Jordach sorry, ascii over here
20:27 VanessaE Penguin: hah, looks like pedobear :-)
20:27 Penguin hehe
20:28 celeron55 thexyz: she did mention that there should be enough money on the account for it to automatically renew, but as it's starting to be two weeks to the expiration date and i don't see any clues of it doing that, i'm somewhat worried; and yes, do try
20:28 celeron55 (i haven't yet)
20:28 Penguin ┌П┐ (•͡_ •͡. ┌П┐
20:29 Penguin ╋╋ム╋╋ム
20:30 celeron55 in related news, the site works just fine at http://5.9.130.165/minetest/ (forum doesn't, because it tries to use the static address which fails), but the apache is having the weirdest configuration problem i have ever seen
20:30 thexyz use nginx then
20:30 celeron55 nothing changed, but yet it just won't do what it's configured to anymore
20:30 celeron55 (or, well, something did change, but it shouldn't affect it at all)
20:31 Penguin Do We Have Back Up Site?
20:31 VanessaE celeron55: sounds like the problems I had with ISC dhcpd a while back.  What worked before suddenly didn't anymore, nor did anyone else's examples.  Took forever before I Was able to use it again.
20:32 celeron55 i mean, the configuration for /minetest to show up the site is in the *same file* as the one that should do the same for (www.)minetest.net
20:32 VanessaE ah
20:32 celeron55 this doesn't make any sense
20:33 VanessaE you do realize when you spot the error you're going to have the biggest facepalm ever, because it'll end up being something tiny and obscure :-)
20:34 celeron55 now i threw in a2dissite minetest, which disabled the file which contains both, and http://5.9.130.165/minetest/ went down
20:35 celeron55 yet minetest.net does nothing
20:35 celeron55 (after doing the reverse of that)
20:36 VanessaE in the old days, I'd start blaming a corrupted drive or filesystem, but I suppose that's not the case here.
20:36 VanessaE (and it's been over 10 years since I last looked at apache, so I'm of no help there either :-) )
20:36 celeron55 pretty much not possible
20:37 KikaRz MuadTralk, are you there?
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20:38 KikaRz Welcome Doc22,
20:38 Doc22 hey kika
20:38 Doc22 thanks
20:38 KikaRz For circunstancial technical problems, the Minetest.net is offline. (just the forum i think)
20:38 Doc22 hmmmm
20:38 VanessaE we know.
20:39 KikaRz Not you
20:39 KikaRz Doc22
20:39 VanessaE oh right
20:39 * VanessaE <-- stupid :D
20:39 Doc22 oh,,,
20:39 Doc22 oh...
20:39 Doc22 lol
20:39 marktraceur Does someone have +t or ops to change the topic to reflect our current technical issues? OldCoder?
20:40 Doc22 haha finally decided to auth
20:40 marktraceur Or VanessaE? :)
20:40 VanessaE Please be patient with questions; people may not be around | Main site: http://minetest.net (currently down due to a technical issue) | Development channel: #minetest-delta
20:40 VanessaE d'ohj
20:40 Topic for #minetest is now Please be patient with questions; people may not be around | Main site: http://minetest.net (currently down due to a technical issue) | Development channel: #minetest-delta
20:41 VanessaE note to self:  try prefixing it with the appropriate command.
20:41 Doc22 lol
20:41 marktraceur VanessaE: Thanks!
20:41 Doc22 that usually works better
20:41 Doc22 ;D
20:41 OldCoder Hey
20:41 OldCoder marktraceur, Sure
20:41 KikaRz what?
20:41 OldCoder What do you wish
20:42 marktraceur OldCoder: It's done already, sorry for the ping
20:42 VanessaE celeron55: interestingly, c55.me also seems to be down
20:42 OldCoder Hmm
20:42 KikaRz Where are you MuadTralk ?
20:42 KikaRz Muadtralk *
20:43 KikaRz he left the server- .-
20:44 KikaRz He left the MINETEST server
20:44 KikaRz not the IRC
20:44 KikaRz -.-
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20:45 KikaRz Muadtralk
20:45 MuadTralk joined #minetest
20:45 * VanessaE pokes at MuadTralk for signs of life
20:46 KikaRz why you left server?
20:46 MuadTralk hmmm?
20:46 Doc22 hey i am making some code to generate a building'
20:46 Doc22 set building
20:46 Doc22 for hunger games
20:46 Doc22 does someone want to design some buildings and send me detailed screenshots?
20:46 Doc22 if they look good I will add them into my mod
20:46 Doc22 theme:
20:47 Doc22 hunger games spawn'
20:47 Doc22 or random ruins
20:47 Doc22 any takers?
20:47 MuadTralk hmmmm
20:47 MuadTralk possibly
20:47 hmmmm hmmmmm
20:47 Doc22 all I want are screenshots
20:48 Doc22 that show me how to build it in code
20:48 Doc22 and where each block is
20:48 VanessaE we need a blueprint generator for minetest
20:48 Doc22 i can do the rest
20:48 Doc22 yes that would be good
20:48 VanessaE something that'll take a worldedit file and extract it into a layered blueprint.
20:48 Doc22 yeah and ill help build a parser
20:48 VanessaE (writing the blueprint out as just so many png files or something)
20:48 Doc22 ok
20:49 Doc22 the problem with png
20:49 Doc22 is that there are a ton of blocks
20:49 Doc22 so each block would have to have an rgb value
20:49 Doc22 that would cause major compatibility
20:49 Doc22 issues
20:49 VanessaE suggested output:  one block = a 3x3 pixel group.  Color, with a legend at the bottom of each image, indicates what block goes where.
20:50 Doc22 hmmmm
20:50 hmmmm yes..?
20:50 Doc22 lol
20:50 Doc22 not ou
20:50 Doc22 u
20:50 Doc22 just saying hmmmmmmm
20:50 hmmmm then why do you keep highlighting me?
20:50 VanessaE think of the output from minetestmapper, only larger.
20:50 VanessaE hmmmm: for crying out loud, pick a real nickname already.
20:50 Doc22 ii was thinking an array file
20:50 Doc22 that stores an array
20:50 VanessaE Doc22: no.  flat images are human readable.
20:50 Doc22 and each object in the array
20:50 Doc22 well i mean for code readable but ok
20:50 VanessaE and can still be parsed by a program if it's really necessary
20:51 hmmmm how are you going to store 256 node definitions in a 3x3 pixel group
20:51 Doc22 umm
20:51 Doc22 3x3 for each block
20:51 hmmmm yea
20:51 VanessaE hmmmm: the color of the group = the block type to be placed there.
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20:51 hmmmm each block is 16x16 nodes
20:51 VanessaE png can have 16 million colors
20:51 Doc22 not chunk
20:51 VanessaE nonononono
20:51 Doc22 block
20:51 VanessaE block as in node
20:51 Doc22 u are thinking of chunk
20:51 VanessaE not block as in mapblock.
20:51 hmmmm no, a chunk is a collection of blocks
20:51 Penguin hi doc
20:51 Doc22 hi
20:51 Doc22 penguin
20:52 VanessaE one 3x3 pixel group = one node.
20:52 Doc22 can you design some things for me
20:52 hmmmm why 3x3?
20:52 Penguin me ?
20:52 Doc22 1: hunger games spawn
20:52 Doc22 yes
20:52 Doc22 2: random ruins
20:52 Doc22 and send me the screenies
20:52 VanessaE perhaps with a black dot in one of the 12, 3, 6 or 9 o-clock positions to indicate facedir for the block.
20:52 Doc22 so i can build it into the code
20:52 VanessaE s/block/node/
20:52 hmmmm that makes sense
20:52 Doc22 thats a good idea
20:52 Doc22 but what about up and down
20:53 VanessaE up and down don't have any kind of facedir.
20:53 Doc22 oh ok
20:53 hmmmm there are 6 positions and 9 pixels to choose from
20:53 VanessaE oh wait
20:53 VanessaE you mean like with a signlike node?
20:53 VanessaE um..
20:53 VanessaE a black dot in the center or in one corner, respectively?
20:53 Penguin I am not on server its late now tied. tell tanker not to take ore form chests and not to put water mills down please doc22
20:53 Doc22 how about the top-corner pixels are for up and down
20:53 Doc22 oj penguin
20:53 Doc22 ok
20:54 Doc22 hes playing a different game
20:54 VanessaE Doc22: that might work.
20:54 Doc22 anyway
20:54 Doc22 then you have 3 pixels for other data
20:54 Doc22 so 256^3
20:54 Doc22 is how many nodes you can have
20:54 celeron55 WTF
20:54 Doc22 this might fill up
20:54 Doc22 what
20:55 hmmmm imagine if BS were changed to 256 :D
20:55 Doc22 lol
20:55 Penguin doc tanker showed me how to make duplicator. it gives 3x2 every flash of blinkey plant
20:55 Penguin and its automatic
20:55 Doc22 ok
20:55 Penguin :)
20:56 KikaRz MuadTralk, server started lagging why?
20:56 VanessaE so  N    E    S    W    U    D
20:56 VanessaE oXo  ooo  ooo  ooo  XoX  ooo
20:56 VanessaE ooo  ooX  ooo  Xoo  ooo  ooo
20:56 VanessaE ooo  ooo  oXo  ooo  ooo  XoX
20:56 VanessaE o = color indicating node to place, X = black dot indicating facedir
20:56 KikaRz MuadTralk, im frozen, i cant move
20:56 VanessaE Doc22, hmmmm:  there, how abotu that?
20:56 Doc22 gppd
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20:56 Doc22 good
20:56 hmmmm you could have a single color in the center that represents facedir
20:56 Doc22 yeah that would work
20:57 hmmmm you have 0xFFFFFF possible combinations to work with in one pixel; come on, get creative
20:57 Penguin doc check it out later
20:57 VanessaE possible yes, but it needs to be readable at a glance I think
20:57 Doc22 i have to go
20:57 hmmmm the meaning of human readable is lost on me
20:58 hmmmm i'm a big fan of binary file formats because of their raw efficiency
20:58 VanessaE one or two black pixels might be easier to spot than some other color.
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20:58 VanessaE I mean human readable as in a person loads one of these images into gthumb or some other image viewer, looks at it, and uses what they see to build a house or whatever on a server that doesn't have any facilities for importing the save file directly.
20:59 VanessaE sorta like those calculators/diagrams people provide online for making spheres.
20:59 celeron55 it turns out c55.me has somehow managed to dynamically update the ip of minetest.net and a variety of other domains served at freedns.afraid.org to it's own ip, which currently is the ip of my MOBILE PHONE that tethers past broken adsl
20:59 celeron55 now, i haven't yet managed to find out how it has done that
20:59 VanessaE wow
21:00 hmmmm hahaha.
21:00 Jordach celeron55 trololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol
21:00 celeron55 it has some scripts set up to update the ip, but NOT for minetest.net or any others of those, and it has worked before
21:00 VanessaE talk about a weird configuration problem all right.
21:02 FreeFull XD
21:04 VanessaE see?  if I hadn't mentioned c55.me you'd be scratching twice as much of your head as now..  sometimes talking does help ;-)
21:05 Penguin some one make a 3x3 texture of a bow and 3x2 texture of an arrow please
21:05 iqualfragile celeron55: there is a setting called cascading updates or sth, you might want to check tose
21:06 iqualfragile s/tose/that
21:06 celeron55 i just set that one off
21:06 celeron55 i think i might know what caused it
21:07 Penguin ?please
21:07 VanessaE Penguin: why so low-resolution?
21:08 celeron55 it had test.mine.bz pointed to the 5.9.130.165 server
21:08 VanessaE old domain?
21:08 celeron55 and c55.me updated that to itself
21:08 Penguin idk can u do it and what every res then dm
21:08 Penguin don't mind
21:08 Kacey joined #minetest
21:08 Kacey hello
21:08 celeron55 and freedns.afraid.org thought, due to what iqualfragile said, that yeah allright, i'll just update all of these 5.9.130.165 domains to it
21:09 VanessaE celeron55: yay!  it works now :-)
21:09 celeron55 which means minetest.net
21:09 Penguin yay fourm page back
21:09 Kacey hey would you look at that celeron55 said something on irc
21:10 celeron55 john_minetest: it is but don't use it; mine.bz is not in our control
21:10 Penguin @VenessaE can you
21:11 Kacey hey penguin you should get on the server
21:11 VanessaE Penguin: no.  I don't work with textures at that resolution.  way too low.
21:11 Penguin what do you work at
21:11 Penguin kacey why
21:11 VanessaE Penguin: photorealistic, 512px.
21:11 iqualfragile Penguin: just grab yourself some gimp and pixel it yourself
21:12 VanessaE or pseudo-realistic, 16px for my mods.
21:12 Kacey because i am all alone...
21:12 Penguin that's good can u do it at that res then
21:12 Penguin I carnt kacey
21:12 MuadTralk 3 pixels?
21:12 MuadTralk damn thats small
21:12 KikaRz o.o
21:12 Kacey O.o 3 pixels...
21:13 Penguin I failed Shhhhh
21:13 iqualfragile those anti-bot-questions are getting quite anoying, dont they?
21:13 KikaRz ALERT: PEOPLE WITH HAMACHI -
21:13 Penguin ?
21:13 MuadTralk ?
21:13 MuadTralk as long as your ip doesnt change
21:13 KikaRz Tomorrow, all people that got problems with minetest.net, will be free to enter!
21:13 VanessaE people with hamachi:  screw hamachi, learn port-forwarding and firewalling instead :-)
21:13 KikaRz A new Update for hamachi that corrects the bug will come!
21:14 KikaRz VanessaE, die.
21:14 MuadTralk some routers dont allow port forwarding
21:14 VanessaE hamachi is for those who don't know what they're doing.
21:14 Penguin its up now -_-
21:14 Kacey lol yes vanessaE yes
21:14 VanessaE (no offense)
21:14 MuadTralk as well as some ISP's
21:14 Kacey i use it for private networks
21:14 KikaRz VanessaE, you don't know what are you doing
21:15 KikaRz but what you're really doing, is offending people
21:15 Penguin he nows more than you tit bye KikaRz
21:15 NakedFury my spiral stairs now reach y -1035
21:16 KikaRz he?
21:16 KikaRz Oh , vanessa changed her sex...
21:16 VanessaE sorry if that offends you, but 25 years worth of computing experience says that such tools should not be needed at all and that people need to learn how to set up their systems properly to begin with, and that ISPs can and will cancel your account for running a server in the first place.
21:16 KikaRz ok.
21:16 KikaRz Vanessa, Some Routers don't allow us to port forwarding
21:16 KikaRz like SMC
21:16 MuadTralk no reason to get testy people
21:16 KikaRz and some thomsons
21:16 KikaRz -.-
21:16 MuadTralk i say the subject gets dropped
21:16 VanessaE so yeah, something like hamachi should not be needed.  run a proper server attached to the rest of the internet (instead of on your personal PC) or don't run one at all.
21:17 KikaRz Yea it shoul
21:17 KikaRz for private servers
21:17 VanessaE *sigh*
21:17 MuadTralk remobo anyone?
21:18 MuadTralk I remember the plethora of minetest servers that ran through it
21:18 MuadTralk now there are none
21:18 MuadTralk and my client i got to connect to them is sitting collecting virtual dust :P
21:18 ruskie VanessaE, sorry but ISPs sell internet access which means servers are a valid part of that thing... if they want to terminate due to that then they shouldn't sell internet access but should sell facebook, youtube and other access
21:19 VanessaE because running a server on your personal PC just invites hackers and is begging for your ISP to shut your connection off.
21:19 KikaRz Haha, that's because you're a hacker
21:19 VanessaE ruskie: ISPs usually have clauses in their service agreement that says you can't run a server.
21:19 VanessaE KikaRz: um, no.
21:19 ruskie VanessaE, yes so? a lot of EULAs have crap as well
21:20 ruskie and yes if my ISP wanted to try to cut me off for that I'd go to court over that
21:20 VanessaE ruskie: since no one's managed to shut that sort of crap down, it persists.
21:20 ruskie I run SMTP, HTTP, FTP, Jabber, HTTPS and a lot of other servers on my systems
21:20 VanessaE take it to court and your case will get thrown out on one point alone:  the ISP is a private company and is free to do anything they want within the current laws, which don't allow for such things.
21:21 ruskie VanessaE, not if they sell me one thing and supply another
21:21 VanessaE john_minetest: lol
21:21 VanessaE ruskie: so far, even that much has gone unchallenged :-/
21:21 ruskie they state they sell "internet" access look it up what that means... interconnected networks that rely on server-client communications
21:21 KikaRz omg
21:21 VanessaE so until someone challenges the ISPs for such practices and wins, the ToS is against you.
21:22 ruskie hell even browsing and other things cause server and client interconnections sometimes in revers
21:22 ruskie VanessaE, well I'm glad I'm not in the USA so maybe that's helping
21:22 MuadTralk so anyone know when gameboom rebuilds their teleportation mainframe?
21:22 VanessaE that said, most of the time it isn't in the ISP's interest to cut you off, since that'll cost them money and perhaps future customers...  but then if you eat a ton of bandwidth they'll kick your ass, so go figure :-)
21:23 iqualfragile celeron55: have you thought about adding soft dependencies? so mods can get other mods to load first and then add some functionality to them?
21:23 ruskie VanessaE, not around here
21:23 ruskie but I guess it helps they aren't oversubscribing
21:23 VanessaE ruskie: oh yeah, that probably helps, though I figure most ISPs around the world act that way anymore
21:23 VanessaE iqualfragile: +1000
21:23 ruskie VanessaE, I think only in high-population, crap deployment countries
21:23 VanessaE ruskie: like the USA? ;)
21:23 ruskie 2 mil population here for the entire country
21:23 ruskie and we're about the size of the NY greater metro area
21:24 MuadTralk hello question relating to minetest not answered instead theres this rather offtopic conversation
21:24 ruskie MuadTralk, I would assume someone would respond if they knew
21:24 VanessaE celeron55: iqualfragile's idea is a good one actually.
21:24 iqualfragile VanessaE: thats horrible! where do you live? you cant run servers on your private pcs?
21:24 VanessaE iqualfragile: the US.
21:25 ruskie VanessaE, but yeah I saw that no servers thing in their small print... frankly they haven't done anything about it and the ISP is well aware I run them(because I bug techsupport about crap connections, routing and so on often enough)
21:25 iqualfragile well, i did not want to go there anyways
21:25 * MuadTralk breaks several miles of firewire
21:25 VanessaE iqualfragile: as for the soft dependency, what I do is check for the presence of a function or of some file within the mod I want to use, and if present some function becomes available.
21:25 VanessaE but that's not reliable of course.
21:25 ruskie also we don't have a download/upload limit so we pay for speed only
21:26 ruskie anyway I'm off to bed
21:26 ruskie work and stuff in the morning
21:26 VanessaE ruskie: right, like I said it probably isn't in their best interest to cut you off - they need your money :-)
21:26 iqualfragile same here (up/down)
21:26 iqualfragile but we have much smaller upload-bandwidth
21:26 iqualfragile but no ports are blocked
21:26 ruskie VanessaE, well they seem to actually be responsive on the tech part as well... I've traced and reported a denial of service from someone on their network and they sorted it out
21:26 iqualfragile and i can use it for whatever purposes
21:27 ruskie yeah no ports blocked here as well
21:27 VanessaE iqualfragile: now that said, in the US if you wanna pay for a "business" connection, then you get a bunch of IP's and email addresses and you can run all the services you want... but you pay 50 to 100% more than the equivalent "residential" connection.
21:27 ruskie in or out
21:27 iqualfragile i can be contackted on all ports
21:27 ruskie I pay 65eur/month for cable tv, voip and 28/2.5MBit connection
21:27 iqualfragile so none are blokced
21:28 iqualfragile vanessae: what do you pay for your connection?
21:28 VanessaE ruskie: that would be about 80 euros equivalent here for the same combination of services.
21:28 iqualfragile but there is one good point about the us: google lately installed some fiber-connections
21:29 ruskie and this is a cable connection which can hit issues if to many people are connected to the same wire... but no such thing here
21:29 iqualfragile symetrical
21:29 VanessaE iqualfragile: USD $42/mo, but it will go up to around UDA $55 in several months from now (I'm still in a lower-rate contact, but my connection got upgraded when we moved)
21:29 iqualfragile & freaking highspeed
21:29 VanessaE s/UDA/USD/
21:29 VanessaE (was 15Mbps/768kbps, now it's 30Mbps/3Mbps)
21:29 ruskie iqualfragile, only ftth deployments here are from a) monopolistic ~state telco b) a rather failing church funded business
21:29 ruskie I don't want either of them
21:29 iqualfragile http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Google-Fiber-Erste-Haushalte-in-Kansas-City-angeschlossen-1749581.html?view=zoom;zoom=1
21:29 ruskie google even less so
21:30 ruskie I'm hoping the cableco will eventuall start hooking up ftth on the last mile
21:30 MuadTralk i get internet from the phone company :D
21:30 iqualfragile ruskie: where are you from?
21:30 ruskie slovenia
21:30 iqualfragile we can choose from about 5 isps here
21:30 ruskie they have more or less the whole infrastructure in a hybrid coax+fiber setup so sholudn't be to hard
21:31 ruskie iqualfragile, hmm... 3 that I know that have their own infrastructure
21:31 ruskie the fourth is a virtual one
21:31 iqualfragile take a look at my link, even if you cant read german
21:31 ruskie and there might be some other virtual ones
21:31 ruskie I'm familiar with the google fiber thing
21:31 ruskie I'm not a fan of google at all
21:31 ruskie infact the opposite would be more true
21:31 iqualfragile me neither
21:31 iqualfragile but that bandwidth is great
21:32 ruskie but their presence might get some competition
21:32 ruskie until things start to balance out
21:32 VanessaE shit, google, for all their faults, could out-compete any large ISP that wants to take them on.
21:32 VanessaE I don't know whether to root for them or be worried!
21:32 ruskie be worried
21:32 ruskie very very worried
21:32 ruskie think phrom but on every level not just http
21:33 VanessaE phrom?
21:33 ruskie see: uk bt phrom
21:33 ruskie failed idea of ads everywhere you surf
21:33 VanessaE oh phorm you mean.
21:33 ruskie ahh yeah
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21:34 ruskie anyway reall off to bed... even tough this is interesting
21:34 VanessaE sleep is overrated :-)
21:34 Kacey @OldCoder i cannot connect to server...
21:34 iqualfragile you dont need to sleep
21:34 ruskie I learned ~13 years ago that it isn't
21:34 ruskie and that I enjoy sleeping
21:35 ruskie I'll be 30 in january ;)
21:35 iqualfragile there is some new drug with wich you can just stay awake
21:35 OldCoder Kacey, which server?
21:35 Kacey 30004
21:35 VanessaE ruskie: you're just a child :-)
21:35 OldCoder Checking
21:35 * VanessaE <- 38
21:35 iqualfragile and you stay concentrated
21:35 OldCoder 38?
21:35 OldCoder Babe in the woods
21:35 VanessaE of course both of us look young compared to OldCoder  ;-)
21:35 OldCoder Heh
21:35 Kacey i keep getting an access violation
21:35 iqualfragile how old is he/you?
21:36 OldCoder Kacey, you timed out
21:36 * Kacey isnt going to say his age
21:36 OldCoder Server is running
21:36 VanessaE "old enough to know your ass is in a sling.":
21:36 iqualfragile i meant oldcoder
21:36 Kacey ooh well 3 times in a row
21:36 OldCoder Kacey, sorry
21:36 OldCoder iqualfragile, 50s
21:36 iqualfragile ok
21:36 Kacey im a baby compared to all of you
21:36 OldCoder Wait
21:36 NakedFury 25
21:37 OldCoder Is somebody running a digger machine on 30004 again?
21:37 Kacey digger?
21:37 OldCoder I don't know what they're called
21:37 VanessaE so KikaRz should probably re-evaluate his previous comments :-)
21:37 OldCoder But they have a tendency to break the world
21:37 Kacey ooh a nodebraker ya im duplicating
21:37 OldCoder Her comments
21:37 OldCoder Is it safe?
21:37 OldCoder And Kacey you sound 14
21:37 Kacey crap oldcoder figured me out...
21:37 OldCoder RealBadAngel sounds old indeed :-)
21:37 KikaRz im a girl -.-
21:38 VanessaE ok, HER previous comments then.
21:38 KikaRz and im not 13.
21:38 KikaRz im 21
21:38 OldCoder I am here all day but on a brief errand. And yes she is at least college age.
21:38 Kacey and the funny thing is i can outsmart alot of the people that play minetest
21:39 VanessaE KikaRz:  and in answer to one such comment, I am a hacker - in the proper sense of the word (someone who codes for fun, to make stuff happen, change the behavior of a program, do something new), not a cracker (someone who illegally breaks into another computer system).
21:39 OldCoder Back in 10 to 30 minutes I hope
21:39 * OldCoder nods
21:39 Kacey i am also a hacker and a cracker but only in school
21:39 VanessaE 21?  Just a baby :-)
21:40 KikaRz MuadTralk, im making a small light house
21:40 KikaRz shut up vanessa
21:40 VanessaE (G*d now I feel old..)
21:40 Kacey it isnt illegal if you keep a network running
21:40 iqualfragile im a extremly bored person
21:40 Kacey hey im only 14 sooooo
21:40 Kacey nice
21:40 iqualfragile kacey: in germany you would be strafrechtlich belangbar
21:40 VanessaE Kacey: if you don't own the system you break into, or have permission to break into it, it is illegal trespass, regardless of the reson.
21:41 KikaRz was kicked by VanessaE: perhaps it is YOU who should shut up.
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21:42 KikaRz [21:41] == KikaRz was kicked from #minetest by VanessaE [perhaps it is YOU who should shut up.]
21:42 Kacey it isnt breaking in since i am the only one that has any clue what to do
21:42 KikaRz ...
21:42 iqualfragile kacey: its still breaking in
21:42 VanessaE Kacey: it's still illegal entry until you get permission from the server's admin.
21:42 KikaRz ~le vanessa look at me... im a old man... (oops... im not a boy.) that likes giving orders because has got 63 years old.
21:42 iqualfragile and now we do have a clue that you do
21:42 VanessaE eh?
21:43 KikaRz thats too st*pid
21:43 KikaRz (no ofense)
21:43 VanessaE what the hell are you talking about?
21:43 KikaRz [21:41] <KikaRz> [21:41] == KikaRz was kicked from #minetest by VanessaE [perhaps it is YOU who should shut up.]
21:43 VanessaE um, yeah?  so?
21:43 KikaRz [21:42] <KikaRz> ~le vanessa look at me... im a old man... (oops... im not a boy.) that likes giving orders because has got 63 years old.
21:43 iqualfragile well, i do administrate a network
21:43 VanessaE what's this old man shit?
21:43 KikaRz you said: i feel so old
21:43 iqualfragile so i am supposed to atack some of my own machines from time to time
21:44 Kacey well there is no real admin on the school network but the principle noticed that i could do just about anything with a computer so now i monitor the network
21:44 marktraceur KikaRz: You probably should avoid telling ops in the channel to shut up, and generally taunting them is also bad.
21:44 KikaRz was kicked by VanessaE: KikaRz
21:44 VanessaE bye bye.
21:44 * marktraceur tried to warn her
21:44 iqualfragile i dont get it
21:44 * Kacey is dying from laughter
21:44 iqualfragile why did you ban her?
21:44 Kacey why not ban
21:44 VanessaE it's only temporary.
21:45 iqualfragile but why?
21:45 Kacey freaking internet...
21:45 VanessaE because evidently a single kick isn't enough to say "show a little respect for everyone"/
21:46 iqualfragile i guess she did not want to be called a baby?
21:46 VanessaE "baby" was just a joke.  her comments were far from it.
21:48 iqualfragile well, i guess she did not get it
21:48 VanessaE and I do feel old.  She has no fucking clue what my general state of health is or how much I've seen in my life.
21:48 VanessaE but then comes off as a know-it-all whose first comment to me was "die".
21:48 VanessaE um, I don't react too kindly to that.
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21:49 iqualfragile well, i did not get that "die" part
21:49 iqualfragile when did that happen?
21:50 iqualfragile ah, there it is
21:50 marktraceur VanessaE: Is there a reason why I can't post in the mod releases forum? Is it restricted?
21:50 VanessaE marktraceur: yeah, you gotta post in Modding General first and then request a move.  that's to keep people from posting junk topics there.
21:50 marktraceur john_minetest: Alternatively, you'll never have to buy a toaster
21:50 VanessaE john_minetest: well see, what you need to do is put a few more laptops near it :-)
21:50 VanessaE toast it
21:52 VanessaE haha
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21:57 KikaRz VanessaE, I'm sorry for calling you "old", "fat" and telling you to "die". But I got a difficult life and i never control myself, i've learned how to... but i can't include that into my life.
21:58 VanessaE KikaRz: fine.  just keep it under control in the future, okay?
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22:04 Kacey hello
22:04 VanessaE wb
22:04 harrison if you must incur the wrath of an op at least do something creative like ASCII art
22:04 Kacey lol
22:05 Kacey i have an idea for a device
22:05 harrison hello kitty with a swastika works well
22:05 VanessaE haha
22:06 harrison I made a film yesterday
22:06 harrison it is at spasim.org
22:08 Kacey @OldCoder
22:08 Penguin joined #minetest
22:08 Kacey the server shut down
22:08 Penguin hi
22:08 Kacey hello
22:08 Penguin what u doing on server kacey
22:09 Kacey making aggies a GIANT house
22:09 Kacey but i was using a deployer at the moment
22:09 Penguin cool
22:09 Penguin why
22:09 Kacey just to see if it worked
22:10 Penguin what worker
22:10 Penguin worked
22:10 Penguin ?
22:10 marktraceur Industry modpack up: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=52612#p52612
22:10 Kacey an idea i had
22:10 marktraceur VanessaE: ^
22:10 Kacey @OldCoder...
22:10 Penguin okay kacey
22:11 Penguin need bow and arrow textures
22:11 Kacey i am seeing if i can make a wall with a deployer
22:11 Kacey or a sring of blocks
22:11 Kacey string*
22:11 VanessaE marktraceur: suggest cooking rubber to get rubber sheeting, similar to what I do in homedecor for plastic sheets.  use that for the conveyor belt.
22:12 marktraceur VanessaE: I don't suppose that's part of a separate mod, is it? Or did you just add it to homedecor?
22:12 Penguin who is on server
22:12 VanessaE marktraceur: naw, it's something I put inside homedecor early on.
22:12 Kacey me
22:12 marktraceur VanessaE: Is it possible to split it out? s/possible/trivial/
22:13 Penguin kacey who is on server
22:13 VanessaE well it'd be quite trivial actually
22:13 Kacey only i am on server
22:13 VanessaE gimme a sec.
22:14 marktraceur VanessaE: Ideally, craft items like that *should* be in separate mods. See, e.g., the three mods I have in this modpack that are *only* registering craftitems and their recipes. It makes it easier to use them as dependencies.
22:14 Penguin can any on make textures
22:14 VanessaE marktraceur: here's the relevant code:  http://pastebin.com/7XUxYPXR
22:15 VanessaE with one item at the bottom (a flower pot) as an example of how it's used.
22:15 marktraceur Penguin: Do you have an image manipulation program?
22:15 Kacey i can but only really horrible oes
22:15 KikaRz MuadTralk, when you enter the server, look behind my house or near my house. i did a big tower
22:15 Kacey and i am working on my own mod
22:16 marktraceur VanessaE: So this one doesn't use rubber, I'd have to add that myself. K.
22:16 VanessaE right
22:16 * marktraceur will add a rubber_sheet mod
22:17 marktraceur Hm. Strikes me that a bucket-cooking recipe would leave the bucket in the source slot. I should add handling for that in transactor.
22:17 marktraceur Woo! Sunday is no longer free!
22:17 KikaRz Well guys...
22:17 KikaRz tomorrow i must wake up early
22:17 KikaRz AND...
22:17 KikaRz ILL MAKE A MOD!
22:17 KikaRz or better... ill try to make a mod.
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22:18 marktraceur KikaRz: Oh boy! What kind of mod?
22:18 KikaRz adding new blocks,new chests etc.
22:19 Penguin can anyone make me bow and arrow textures please
22:20 KikaRz i already got them
22:20 KikaRz just install a mod
22:20 KikaRz that i forgot the name
22:20 KikaRz it gives you the bow and arrow
22:20 KikaRz well
22:20 KikaRz kisses everyone
22:20 KikaRz <3
22:20 Penguin wow I hate you
22:21 VanessaE throwing,.
22:21 VanessaE that's the mod name.
22:21 VanessaE it already has low-resolution bows and arrows
22:24 Penguin what mod shall I make ??!??
22:24 MuadTralk not only that but there are about 3 different textures for bows and arrows
22:24 marktraceur joined #minetest
22:24 VanessaE anything the game doesn't already have
22:26 MuadTralk add animated nyan cat entities flying through the sky
22:27 iqualfragile1 https://www.google.com/mentalplex/
22:28 Penguin that has no use
22:28 MuadTralk yes it does
22:28 Penguin why
22:28 MuadTralk it would look awesome
22:28 Penguin it will cause lag
22:28 VanessaE MuadTralk: you mean the old nyanland mod? :-)
22:29 MuadTralk YES!
22:29 MuadTralk come on
22:29 MuadTralk cant i make him tihnk its an original idea?
22:29 VanessaE oh sure, and draw the ire of the asshole who owns the original image? :-)
22:29 Penguin haha
22:29 MuadTralk yes!
22:29 OldCoder Flying Cats
22:29 OldCoder Hmm
22:29 OldCoder Rocketing through the sky
22:30 Penguin what about NyanDogs
22:30 OldCoder Leaving rainbox trails
22:30 OldCoder Sure
22:30 OldCoder Or penguins
22:30 Penguin but it shits bricks not rainbows
22:30 VanessaE oh right, that'll make the windows user real happy ;)
22:31 Penguin I will make NyanDog  it will shit bricks not rainbows
22:31 Penguin ?
22:32 VanessaE heh
22:32 opticlove joined #minetest
22:32 Penguin anyone make textures ? I carnt make them
22:32 VanessaE you can make them yourself,
22:32 VanessaE it isn't hard.
22:33 Penguin no choclate bars
22:33 Penguin lol
22:35 VanessaE oy
22:36 jin_xi memetest
22:36 jin_xi but i like the brick shitting idea moar
22:36 VanessaE someone should re-visit that silly Minetest Trollpack texture pack :=-0
22:36 VanessaE :-)
22:37 marktraceur VanessaE: Happen to have downloads for the plastic sheet textures? (also, what license are they under?)
22:37 Octupus joined #minetest
22:37 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor - textures are WTFPL, code is GPL.
22:37 Octupus Hola
22:37 Penguin right I will make 6 Nyans ,Nyan Dog (shits bricks) ,Nyan Penguin (Shits Chocolate), Nyan Puss (Octupuss shits dye ) Nyan baby Baby( Nyan cat) need one more
22:38 * marktraceur only needs textures, will relicense CC-BY-SA
22:38 VanessaE john_minetest: c55 put my nyancat images into minetest recently, with minor tweaks, so copyright is no longer an issue as mine only superficially resemble the originals.
22:38 VanessaE marktraceur: sounds fine to me
22:38 Penguin need one more nyan idear
22:39 Octupus So ima shit?
22:39 Octupus Kay
22:39 Penguin no
22:40 Penguin shits I mean what the blox are be hind it
22:40 Octupus O
22:40 Taoki_1 joined #minetest
22:40 Penguin octuc I dident mean to offend you
22:41 Octupus That was no offense Penguin
22:41 NekoGloop joined #minetest
22:41 Penguin oh
22:42 Octupus Hellooooo Neko
22:42 Penguin all I need is texturs tbh
22:42 NekoGloop Minetest.net is perfectly fine :/
22:43 VanessaE NekoGloop: it was down earlier, c55 said it was a weird configuration issue.  Not sure I fully understand it, but through a weird cascade, minetest.net got pointed to c55's cell phone :-)
22:43 OldCoder NekoGloop, hi
22:43 Penguin octuc any inptickular texture you want for NyanPuss(Octupuss)
22:43 Octupus Mo
22:44 Octupus No*
22:44 Penguin okay
22:44 Penguin what shall spawn rate be ?
22:45 Octupus For?
22:45 VanessaE mapgen-based, no more than one every 30-node radius maybe
22:45 NekoGloop We need something like MineUp.
22:45 VanessaE and they should "die" if they fly too far from the point they spawned at.
22:46 VanessaE anyway, bbl.
22:47 Penguin okay 30 block is okay and @VanessaE maby
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22:48 OldCoder Do we need the digger machine on 30004?
22:49 OldCoder I think it's adding to CPU and may be dangerous
22:49 OldCoder Any chance of turning it off?
22:49 Penguin why?
22:49 OldCoder Octupus, do you suppose you could arrange to turn that thing off?
22:49 OldCoder Penguin, if it is yours could you turn if off for a while?
22:49 OldCoder As a test?
22:49 OldCoder I want to check CPU use
22:50 OldCoder *turn it off
22:50 Octupus Turn what off
22:50 OldCoder There is a machine running
22:50 OldCoder last time one like this was used
22:50 OldCoder It broke the world
22:50 OldCoder And I think it's eating up my CPU
22:50 Octupus O
22:50 OldCoder It think it's also causing timeouts
22:50 Octupus Sure
22:50 Penguin I am not on server kacey is
22:50 OldCoder If possible have them turn it off and let's see
22:51 Octupus Ok
22:51 Octupus If it is needed I am all for it :)
22:51 OldCoder It's generating tens of thousands of lines of debug output too
22:51 OldCoder <--- Not a fan of this device
22:51 Octupus O
22:51 OldCoder -5047,4,-995
22:51 OldCoder Location is near there ^
22:52 NekoGloop Take a mese pick to the damn thing then.
22:52 Octupus I not on server
22:53 Penguin shut server down for a bit it wouldent harm
22:53 Penguin anyone
22:53 OldCoder Is this Kacey's machine?
22:54 Octupus What machine is it?
22:54 OldCoder I don't know for sure
22:54 Penguin he is the only one on ther server and he has a duplixator and it lags serve lots
22:54 OldCoder Can somebody go smash it?
22:55 OldCoder Using WorldEdit or a pick as NekoGloop suggested?
22:55 Penguin its protected
22:55 OldCoder Then I'll do it
22:55 OldCoder Hold on
22:55 NekoGloop Worldedit ignores ownership and protect
22:55 Penguin it might not be but that's all I can think of
22:55 OldCoder Heading over there
22:56 Penguin is it kacey
22:56 OldCoder Kacey just logged in
22:56 Penguin who is it then
22:57 Penguin ?
22:57 Octupus What's a duplicates
22:57 Octupus Bye
22:57 Octupus Duplicates
22:58 NekoGloop Who's he, btw?
22:58 Octupus Duplicator
22:58 Octupus Idk
22:58 Penguin duplicator. yes its a bug machien mesecon
22:59 OldCoder It's Doc's
22:59 Penguin joined #minetest
22:59 marktraceur Hm, I'm going blind, can someone help me see why this craft recipe is invalid? http://paste.marktraceur.info/3
22:59 Penguin coder what was it aand what cotuo
22:59 marktraceur In particular it says the rubber_base recipe is wrong, but I don't know why.
23:00 Octupus Thank you OldCoder
23:00 OldCoder I think I managed to break it
23:00 NekoGloop Replacements is double braces
23:00 Penguin what was it
23:00 OldCoder Tell Doc no more of those things
23:00 Octupus Ok
23:00 OldCoder Some type of machine that cycled a dozen times a second
23:00 marktraceur NekoGloop: I think it's supposed to be, isn't it?
23:00 NekoGloop marktraceur: But you dont have it that way.
23:01 Penguin was it a thing with blinkey plants node brackers and pistion ect
23:01 OldCoder I filled it with air and turned its parts into trees
23:01 OldCoder Penguin, I think so
23:01 marktraceur NekoGloop: I do, there's a brace on the same line and one on the next. replacements = {\n {'thing1', 'thing2' } }
23:01 NekoGloop Not in that paste, it seems not.
23:01 Penguin that's a duplicator
23:01 OldCoder Yes that was the CPU problem
23:01 Penguin coder
23:02 OldCoder It was eating 25% of my CPU by itself
23:02 OldCoder Penguin, ty
23:02 marktraceur NekoGloop: Line 30 is the first brace, line 31 has the second.
23:02 OldCoder All set then
23:02 NekoGloop Oh derp.
23:03 Penguin when he uses it we all disconnect. coder
23:03 NekoGloop Care to post more, marktraceur?
23:03 OldCoder Tell him no more of those
23:03 Octupus OldCoder: Thank you
23:03 OldCoder Octupus, yw
23:03 Octupus :)
23:03 marktraceur NekoGloop: More of what?
23:03 NekoGloop E.g. The actual debug output
23:04 marktraceur NekoGloop: http://paste.marktraceur.info/4
23:04 Penguin old coder. I will distory them all tomoro there's lots of them but his is worst tanker made them. he found out him self
23:05 OldCoder There are more of those monsters?
23:05 Kacey joined #minetest
23:05 OldCoder Kacey, Hey
23:05 NekoGloop marktraceur: Try re-writing from scratch.
23:05 Kacey oldcoder you wanted me?
23:05 Octupus Hi Kacey
23:05 OldCoder Kacey, Nah. Just to answer your question...
23:05 marktraceur NekoGloop: I don't think I'd write anything different, so that wouldn't help
23:05 OldCoder That thing was eating 25% of my CPU and causing timeouts too
23:05 OldCoder So it had to go
23:05 NekoGloop marktraceur: I've found it to help :/
23:05 Penguin only like 3 more coder
23:05 OldCoder That was all
23:05 Kacey ooh ok
23:06 Kacey octu can you join the server
23:06 OldCoder Penguin, Thank you. Penguin Kacey talk to Doc and Baby Face and make sure they get dismantled.
23:06 Octupus iPod :(
23:06 NekoGloop iPad
23:06 Kacey what get ismantled
23:07 Kacey what get dismantled
23:07 Penguin I have one but its is not set up it is in the chest. cuz I moved house
23:07 Penguin the duplicatiors kacey
23:07 Kacey aaw ok deployers can duplicate
23:07 Penguin I never atchly made one
23:07 OldCoder One of those costs as much as about 3 worlds by itself
23:08 Penguin really f**k me
23:08 Kacey ooh ok
23:08 marktraceur Anyone else have thoughts on why http://paste.marktraceur.info/3 line 30's register_craft is throwing an "invalid crafting recipe" error?
23:09 Kacey but i cannot get jungle tree without one
23:09 Penguin ask jeta to to fix bug and kacey so
23:09 Penguin get a sapling
23:10 Kacey you cant get a sapling for a jungle tree
23:10 Octupus OldCoder: U can go into mesecons then u can destroy the recipe for it
23:10 NekoGloop Penguin: Jungletrees are removed
23:10 Penguin oh
23:10 NekoGloop Octupus: Part of technic actually
23:10 Kacey recipe for what
23:10 Octupus O
23:10 OldCoder Octupus, Not needed yet. In the future CPUs may be fast enough to handle it. We'll see if people keep doing it.
23:10 Octupus Ok
23:10 OldCoder For now I'd like them dismantled
23:10 Octupus Ok
23:10 OldCoder A lot of work has gone into that world; best not to break it
23:11 Penguin its not a recipe its a human beast
23:11 marktraceur OH
23:11 marktraceur Hm, nope
23:12 Penguin doc has hidden ones around map I think
23:12 marktraceur Yeah, I was totally editing the wrong one.
23:12 Octupus :O
23:12 OldCoder The machines? No need for more discussion. Just ask him to delete them.
23:12 Penguin there automatic so he gosr off serve and leaves then on
23:13 * OldCoder shrugs
23:13 OldCoder Ask him to delete them. If he doesn't I'll find them.
23:13 Penguin okay coder.
23:13 OldCoder ty
23:13 Kacey i am going to use duplicator from now on ok coder
23:13 Penguin yay coder
23:13 OldCoder Kacey, what is the distinction regarding duplicator?
23:14 Penguin everything
23:14 OldCoder K
23:14 Octupus Kacey: Don't use the dupcator
23:14 Kacey you put a block in and push a button and it creates that block and you can do it infinitly
23:14 Kacey i meant deployer
23:15 Octupus U mean with da tubes
23:15 Kacey no
23:15 Penguin oldcoder make it a rule no duplicators or interract revoked for 2days.
23:15 OldCoder Sounds fair
23:15 OldCoder But we can drop it for now; notify him when you see him.
23:15 Penguin it will teach them
23:15 OldCoder Nothing more to say for now
23:15 Octupus Also duplicators alter gameplay
23:16 Penguin okay will do
23:16 Octupus K
23:16 Kacey what about deployers?
23:16 Penguin and if that do it again it doubles to 4 then 6 so on
23:16 OldCoder Penguin, I think the subject can be dropped for now
23:16 OldCoder Have fun on the server
23:17 Kacey but what about deployers?
23:17 OldCoder Is there consensus about them?
23:17 Penguin just seen that no more comment okay coder
23:17 OldCoder Are deployers fair? Unfair? Do they drain resources?
23:17 Kacey they just deploy a block
23:17 Penguin unfair
23:18 OldCoder Is there agreement they are unfair? What about Creative Worlds?
23:18 Kacey ill set one up if you get on server oldcoder
23:18 Penguin u don't need a diployer to make duplicator
23:18 OldCoder Kacey, ty but I am working IRL today
23:18 Octupus Duplicators make it almost like creative
23:18 Kacey ooh ok
23:18 OldCoder Hmm
23:18 Penguin its mese cons pistion node bracker lever and button
23:18 OldCoder It is the group's decision about deployers
23:18 Octupus It is unfair to ppl who don't have it
23:18 Kacey node breakers are used in duplicators
23:19 OldCoder So O.K. for Creative but not in normal play
23:19 Kacey they r not hard to make
23:19 Penguin yes kacey
23:19 NekoGloop Octupus: With the exception of only nodes being dupe-able.
23:19 Octupus Yep
23:19 Penguin I no kacey make one and you will have coder to deal with
23:20 Kacey i have an idea already
23:20 * OldCoder laughs
23:20 OldCoder Yeah, like I'm dangerous :p
23:20 OldCoder Boo!
23:20 Penguin no u make one and your. in trouble
23:21 Kacey nobody will know!!!!
23:21 OldCoder We do have logs, you know
23:21 Penguin we will now u told us
23:21 Kacey but not for this
23:22 Kacey logs cannot detect what i put into something
23:22 Penguin if he dose revoke for 2 days he has been warned coder
23:22 Penguin and its up to you what gose on in your server
23:22 Octupus Yes he has penguin
23:23 Penguin what octuo
23:24 Octupus Warned
23:24 Penguin ikr
23:24 Penguin coder r u there
23:25 OldCoder Yes
23:25 OldCoder Penguin, to summon me spell the full name: OldCoder
23:26 * OldCoder chuckles
23:26 Penguin (^Ù¼^) PEDOBEAR APPROVES
23:26 OldCoder Kacey, what are you doing?
23:26 Penguin okay @oldcoder
23:26 Penguin is he making one
23:26 OldCoder I haven't looked yet; I'm actually working on MySQL databases right now
23:27 Octupus O cool
23:27 Penguin I said that and me left check
23:27 Octupus Penguin tell kacey I said if he builds 1 I will revoke mod privs also
23:28 Penguin and he left check*
23:28 Penguin I am not on serve
23:28 Octupus O
23:28 Octupus Ok
23:28 Octupus I will tell him later
23:29 T_A_N_K joined #minetest
23:29 T_A_N_K Why does minetest.net keep going down?
23:29 Penguin old coder in minetest.config message of the day put about the duplicators ?!
23:29 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: Ohai there.
23:29 T_A_N_K Hi
23:30 Penguin ?
23:31 Octupus Hi T_A_N_K
23:31 T_A_N_K hi
23:31 Penguin @OldCoder is That A Good idear
23:31 OldCoder Penguin, I think we can drop it for now
23:31 OldCoder Let's see how things go
23:32 Penguin okay jus suggestion and let's move on from subject now
23:34 OldCoder All right
23:35 Penguin I am penguin english boy over and out night @OldCoder Night Octupuss night all
23:36 OldCoder Good night
23:36 Penguin 5
23:36 Penguin 4
23:36 Penguin 3
23:36 Penguin 2
23:36 Penguin 1
23:36 Penguin bye
23:36 NekoGloop 0
23:37 NekoGloop -1
23:37 NekoGloop -2
23:37 NekoGloop -3
23:39 OldCoder Heh
23:39 OldCoder Countdown!
23:39 Octupus Bye penguin
23:39 NekoGloop -50
23:39 NekoGloop -51
23:39 NekoGloop -52
23:39 OldCoder NekoGloop, he is gone
23:40 NekoGloop I know.
23:40 OldCoder All right
23:40 NekoGloop He left, then it was a negative count until he leaves (because he already did)
23:41 OldCoder all right
23:42 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=related&amp;v=PRd7gOfIS-0
23:42 marktraceur http://www.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=related&amp;v=PRd7gOfIS-0&amp;webm-true
23:43 marktraceur http://www.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=related&amp;v=PRd7gOfIS-0&amp;webm=true sorry
23:43 Octupus No hear phones on u can talk to me
23:43 Octupus 1 hear phone in u can talk to me if I like you
23:44 Octupus 2 hear phones in STFU
23:45 marktraceur Octupus: Head. Headphones.
23:45 NekoGloop This is me ^
23:45 Octupus Thank you :)
23:45 Octupus NekoGloop: I guess u are more then my trolling buddy
23:45 * marktraceur thinks we need a full time spellchecker in this channel
23:46 Octupus It's was a typo marktraceur
23:46 marktraceur Octupus: Yes, and there are a lot of them! <actionmovie>SOMEONE MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
23:46 Octupus XD
23:47 marktraceur <narrator>This summer, one English professor....will try to fix the world's mistakes....BY ERASING THEM.</narrator>
23:47 NekoGloop So true.
23:47 marktraceur <leadinglady>Wait, they used five exclamation marks? That would mean....oh god.</leadinglady><hero>We need to call the CIA.</hero>
23:48 marktraceur </actionmovie>
23:48 NekoGloop <noob>I'm hungry, feed me damn it</noob>
23:48 marktraceur Hm, good idea. Food.
23:49 Octupus Call me maybe?
23:54 NekoGloop Call me when you die?
23:59 Octupus Sure :)

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