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00:00 Uberi wow 3D players are looking nice
00:01 RealBadAngel with HD textures even better
00:02 GTRsdk that looks real nice
00:03 GTRsdk so how many people here think walmart or Sams club wouldn'tminnd having minetest installed on their laptops? :-)
00:04 Taoki Uberi: https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest/commit/122bf0012c95d43a01ba772d489af251887fe074 Am I doing it right?
00:04 Taoki and is that description correct?
00:06 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/mc.png
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00:06 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/mc.png repost for jin_xi
00:06 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/hulk.png
00:06 Taoki RealBadAngel: Can I post those on the forum to keep people excited about the models :)
00:06 Uberi looks about right, Taoki
00:06 Taoki ok
00:06 RealBadAngel sure
00:06 Uberi but you probably know it better than I
00:07 Taoki Well those are the only new message types I added
00:08 RealBadAngel Master Chef skin is kinda cool :)
00:10 jin_xi hi, yeah, cool skin
00:11 RealBadAngel Taoki, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcbTlVRaiY8
00:11 RealBadAngel now such models please :)
00:12 Taoki lol yeah :)
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00:13 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPf0FL4JOLE
00:13 RealBadAngel or such one
00:13 Taoki RealBadAngel: Graphics like that are what I want in MineTest :)
00:13 Taoki eventually... someday
00:13 Taoki I'm crazy eh
00:14 RealBadAngel ok, you got 2 weeks ;)
00:14 RealBadAngel eventually till xmas :)
00:14 Taoki hehe
00:15 * RealBadAngel changes Taoki nick to SantaTaoki
00:15 Taoki Naaah, doesn't fit me :P
00:16 RealBadAngel dont complain, take a pen and write down what we do want for this Xmas :)
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00:17 RealBadAngel you got the job just :)
00:19 RealBadAngel anybody else i suggest start writing letters to Santa Claus, err sorry Santa Taoki
00:19 Octupus wow ppl is #minecraft are harsh
00:19 Taoki Ho ho ho! You've been a good developer. Look what Santa has for you... dynamic lighting, shader support, and some BulletX physics
00:20 Taoki (some Christmases from now)
00:20 Octupus U owe me a pony Taoki i asked for it last year *grumpy face*
00:21 Octupus XD just kidding
00:21 Taoki Awww. I have a lot on my computer table if you want one ;)
00:21 telek Cool so long as any physics support is OpenCL based :D
00:21 RealBadAngel 3d mob called pony? :)
00:21 Taoki Careful. I WILL port my MLP ponies to MT toio :3
00:21 Taoki **too
00:21 Taoki Xonotic was my first victim at that
00:22 Octupus Taoki,u made it way easier to make 3d mobs now u know
00:22 RealBadAngel hehehe
00:22 RealBadAngel not easier
00:22 RealBadAngel possible
00:22 Taoki Octupus: Well, you just open up Blender, make the mesh and export it
00:22 Taoki That part one still has to do
00:23 Octupus XD i just said i wish i had the full MC in #minecraft and they were like DO U HAVE A HACKED CLIENT
00:23 Octupus and i was like .....no
00:24 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9njr9jSkaY
00:24 RealBadAngel about lights...
00:25 RealBadAngel and IrrBullet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScniyBdEUlE&feature=related
00:27 Octupus XD there is this 1 guy who is hunting me down on the minecraft channel XD
00:27 Taoki Very awesome (both videos)
00:27 Taoki Yeah, I want those features in MineTest too :/ They should be possible... like the models were (Irrlicht functions too)
00:28 Taoki but its a big dream
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00:28 telek Taoki: Go for it.
00:28 Octupus Hi LandMine
00:28 telek I know a guy who is involved in the East Coast BronyCon :D
00:28 Octupus those guys in #minecraft are hunting me down
00:28 Taoki awesome
00:28 Taoki And i will in time
00:28 Taoki features need to be added slowly though
00:29 Taoki But yes... dynamic lighting and / or shaders are my next concern
00:29 telek Taoki: If you're going to bother, start with water effects.
00:29 Octupus lalala
00:29 Taoki Depends how shades will work. Need to check out Kahrl's existing code for that, if still compatible
00:30 RealBadAngel take a look at water: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ3R0yJMO6U&feature=related
00:30 telek Also: Has anyone looked into dropping the water level a pixel or two below the block height, so it'll 'shore' properly?
00:30 telek That would also allow room for doing animated effects like wave ripples and tides.
00:30 RealBadAngel last vid is just about in time :)
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00:34 RealBadAngel taoki, can you join my ip now?
00:34 telek Taoki: Also, might wanna look into OpenMW and their shader infrastructure. Not sure if the license is GPL or LGPL, but it might be a way to save some time and enjoy some cross-project code exchange.
00:37 Taoki ok, will keep in mind. GTG now, later
00:38 Octupus bye Taoki
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00:41 Octupus hi babyface1031
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00:42 Octupus hi babyface1031_
00:42 babyface1031_ hi
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00:55 Octupus Hi M13
00:55 M13 hi
00:55 Octupus u didnt come back last night
00:55 Octupus :(
00:55 M13 srry
00:55 Octupus so u want me to watch over the server
00:56 M13 yes
00:56 Octupus kay
00:56 Octupus whats the ip
00:56 M13 m13.sytes.net
00:56 M13 Port
00:56 M13 30002
00:56 M13 30001*
00:56 Octupus i was on it i was looking around in your house
00:56 Octupus :P
00:57 M13 I have no house
00:57 Octupus must have been some1 elses
00:57 M13 im nervious
00:57 Octupus why?
00:57 M13 I have to call my girlfriends dad
00:57 Octupus XD
00:57 M13 and talk to him :/
00:58 Octupus i got kicked
00:58 Octupus why
00:58 M13 what???
00:58 Octupus Unknown inventory identifier
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01:16 OldCoder Hi
01:16 Octupus Hi coder
01:16 OldCoder babyface1031_, Hi!
01:16 OldCoder Octupus, Hello!
01:16 Octupus :D
01:16 babyface1031_ hi @OldCoder
01:16 OldCoder Taoki|away, we will discuss Taoki World
01:17 Octupus i need to make a website
01:18 OldCoder Octupus, Have fun
01:18 Octupus thank you
01:18 Octupus i wish to have a website to put these pictures of my creations up
01:19 Octupus wuld u like to see a screeny
01:20 OldCoder Sure
01:21 Octupus there is a little suprise at the front on the temple
01:28 Octupus http://i.imgur.com/BfB57.png
01:29 Octupus OldCoder,there ya go buddy
01:30 OldCoder R
01:30 OldCoder That is very nice!
01:30 OldCoder Artwork
01:30 OldCoder Should be treasured
01:32 Octupus :)
01:32 Octupus did u find the suprise
01:36 OldCoder Looking closer
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01:37 OldCoder Doc22, hi
01:37 Doc22 hey olcoder :D
01:37 OldCoder I am concerned about NekoGloop. If anybody sees him elsewhere ask him to stop by.
01:37 Doc22 why are you?
01:37 OldCoder Doc22, he is usually around more often
01:37 Doc22 hmmm
01:38 Doc22 probably just bogged down with something
01:38 Doc22 sometimes I am that way.
01:40 OldCoder Octupus, I don't know what to look for. I see MT in a tab. Nothing too unexpected yet.
01:40 Octupus its the piggy
01:40 Octupus he was posing in the picture
01:41 OldCoder Looking again!
01:42 Doc22 so who thinks a modded hunger games server would be fun
01:42 OldCoder The pink block? I saw that
01:42 OldCoder Is that a piggy?
01:42 OldCoder He is the right color
01:42 Doc22 anyone...
01:42 GTRsdk Is there a Minetest chat <-> IRC mod or plugin available?
01:42 Doc22 ummm
01:42 Doc22 idk
01:42 Doc22 so that it can join irc
01:42 Doc22 ?
01:43 GTRsdk basically relay chat messages
01:43 OldCoder GTRsdk, I wish to make one
01:43 OldCoder Ingame chat is a pain to use
01:43 OldCoder No scrollback or tab or arrow keys
01:44 Octupus Yes OldCoder, that was a piggy :)
01:44 GTRsdk well not making ingame chat like IRC
01:44 GTRsdk but to relay irc chat to ingame
01:44 GTRsdk and ingame chat to IRC
01:44 Octupus adios every1
01:44 Doc22 cya
01:45 Octupus have to sleep
01:45 Doc22 baibai
01:45 OldCoder All right
01:45 Octupus see u all tomorrow
01:45 Doc22 cya l8r
01:45 Octupus The piggy was looking at you coder :)
01:45 Doc22 :)
01:45 OldCoder Yes!
01:45 Doc22 :D
01:45 OldCoder He was and is
01:45 Doc22 he wants you....
01:45 Octupus :D
01:45 Octupus bye
01:45 Doc22 >:D
01:45 OldCoder For the U.S. Army
01:45 Doc22 bye
01:45 Doc22 lol
01:46 Doc22 for the army of bacon
01:46 Doc22 you must be BACONATED >:D
01:46 Doc22 Can you guide me through something
01:46 Doc22 I want to make ruins generate in the map
01:46 Doc22 for hunger games
01:47 Doc22 with chests etc
01:47 Doc22 I know how to make a node that generates and make the on_generate command
01:47 Doc22 can you guide me through making some buildings that randomly generate
01:48 OldCoder Doc22, I cannot but others may at different times of the day
01:48 Doc22 ok
01:51 Doc22 where is the api...
01:51 Doc22 again
01:51 Doc22 i forgot
01:53 OldCoder Hmm?
01:53 OldCoder http://api.minetest.net/
01:53 OldCoder Is that what you mean?
01:55 Doc22 i looked at that one
01:55 Doc22 but it isnt advanced enough
01:55 Doc22 im looking at one i found on google
02:09 Doc22 working on the generation of buildings
02:09 Doc22 is there a set_spawn() function
02:10 Doc22 that would be useful for making the building
02:15 Doc22 Oldcoder what is ObjectRef in function minetest.register_on_dieplayer(func(ObjectRef))and how can I get player name
02:21 Doc22 oh that is the name
02:28 OldCoder Back
02:29 OldCoder Doc22, I hope to start programming mods in early 2013
02:29 Doc22 oh ok
02:29 Doc22 ill be ahead of you so ill help you
02:29 * Doc22 snickers with delight
02:29 Doc22 haha
02:39 Doc22 realbadangel I need your help with the function register_on_dieplayer(function(player)
02:39 Doc22 how do I get the players location
02:40 Doc22 and name
02:42 OldCoder Doc22, No snickers needed; you are correct
02:42 Doc22 ok
02:42 Doc22 lol
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02:55 Doc22 RealBadAngel I researched more on the function
02:56 Doc22 is there a player:setspawn
02:56 Doc22 function?
02:57 Doc22 oh never mind
02:57 Doc22 lol i keep coming up with the solution
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03:05 OldCoder Doc22, that is positive
03:05 Doc22 what is it
03:06 Doc22 the function
03:06 Doc22 if thats what you mean
03:06 OldCoder No
03:06 OldCoder <Doc22> lol i keep coming up with the solution
03:06 Doc22 oh about solution
03:06 Doc22 ok
03:06 Doc22 i made code that should spawn the player at 100 30 100
03:06 Doc22 but it doesnt work,,,
03:07 Doc22 it goes in register_on_respawnplayer
03:07 Doc22 ok reading more on the api helps
03:09 Doc22 hooray another success
03:10 Doc22 now how to figure out how to make a building generate at a particular spot on the map...
03:11 Doc22 hmm i got an idea
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03:42 Doc22 im having trouble accesing minetest.env
03:42 Doc22 it says "attempt to index field 'env' (a nil value)
03:42 Doc22 my code is this
03:43 Doc22 minetest.env:set_node(pos, {name=name})
03:43 Doc22 I have a variable name = "default:mese"
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03:53 T_A_N_K There's no sound on the latest windows version
03:56 GTRsdk 1. Do your speakers work?
03:56 GTRsdk 2. Are you sure it's not muted?
03:57 T_A_N_K Yes, I am not a noob, I'm just stating that there is no sound, i see openAL is included though
03:57 GTRsdk silly things can happen to even the best of us :-)
04:00 Doc22 HMM
04:00 Doc22 tank are you a modder
04:01 Doc22 T_A_N_K?
04:01 Doc22 ok then
04:01 Doc22 GTRsdk are you a modder?
04:02 T_A_N_K Yea i am
04:02 T_A_N_K I wrote tech 'n mine
04:04 Doc22 ok
04:04 Doc22 can you help me
04:05 Doc22 I am calling minetest.env in my init.lua file
04:05 Doc22 and it gives me an error
04:05 Doc22 <Doc22> it says "attempt to index field 'env' (a nil value)
04:07 Doc22 minetest.env:add_node(pos, {name=name}) I tried doing this in my init.lua file
04:07 Doc22 not inside any functions
04:07 Doc22 and right when the mod loads
04:07 Doc22 does it have to be after the world finishes?
04:07 Doc22 after it finishes loading *
04:08 Doc22 hrmmm an idea is coming to mind...
04:09 T_A_N_K env?
04:09 T_A_N_K minetest.env?
04:09 Doc22 yes
04:09 T_A_N_K code?
04:09 Doc22 ok ill pasty it
04:10 Doc22 http://pastebin.com/4Asfig0u
04:10 Doc22 T_A_N_K
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04:11 T_A_N_K what line gives error?
04:11 Muadtralk I am error
04:12 Doc22 6
04:12 Doc22 I just want to generate a building in a set spot at the beginning of the map generation
04:12 OldCoder Muadtralk, you are error?
04:12 T_A_N_K you aren't giving minetest an instruction
04:13 T_A_N_K lua is handling it
04:13 Muadtralk bad zelda reference
04:13 T_A_N_K and lua has no minetest function
04:13 Doc22 this is what it throws
04:13 GTRsdk Doc22: I'm a hacker. But not of Minetest (yet).
04:13 T_A_N_K use on_generate or whatever function handles generation
04:13 Doc22 it says "attempt to index field 'env' (a nil value)
04:13 GTRsdk though I have attempted some things... just haven't played with minetest enough
04:13 Doc22 ok gtr
04:13 Doc22 ok
04:14 Doc22 but it is in a set position
04:14 Doc22 doesnt this mean that every time a chunk is generated it calls it
04:14 Doc22 and adds the nodes
04:14 Doc22 this seems slow and laggy
04:14 Doc22 :/
04:14 T_A_N_K ok then, on player join
04:15 Doc22 ok
04:15 Doc22 wait
04:15 Doc22 on_generate gives variables maxp and minp right
04:15 Doc22 and you can go maxp.x
04:15 Doc22 etc
04:15 Doc22 to figure out if it is inside the generated chunk?
04:16 Doc22 that way it only does it once
04:16 T_A_N_K yes
04:16 Doc22 ok
04:16 Doc22 ill come up with a formula
04:16 T_A_N_K that's how superflat worked
04:17 T_A_N_K if maxp < 100 and minp >0 then blah blah
04:17 Doc22 ok
04:17 Doc22 so maxp is the top corner
04:17 Doc22 and minp the opposite
04:17 Doc22 cool
04:19 T_A_N_K but make suure you use maxp .z,maxp.y,maxp.x,minp.z,minp.y,minp.x to specify the chunk you want it in so it doesn't generate everytime
04:20 Doc22 wait can you explain
04:20 Doc22 so i want a block from  1 1 1 to 10 10 10
04:20 Doc22 how do i do this
04:21 T_A_N_K Why don't you just have a block that turns into that?
04:21 T_A_N_K Like the admin sets the block down, and it turns into the structure you want
04:21 Doc22 oh it would simplify it
04:21 Doc22 but it needs to be automatic
04:22 Doc22 now I can just go place the block in the chunk
04:22 Doc22 thanks
04:35 T_A_N_K http://youtu.be/hX3jM5bn6IU
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05:20 GloopMaster hm... gets kinda dead here after midnight.
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05:23 GloopMaster neko259: Hello!
05:40 OldCoder I am falling asleep; night
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06:22 ruskie *yawn*
06:28 M13 has celeron55 been around lately?
06:30 ruskie yeah some 13-4 hours ago
06:32 M13 ok
06:32 M13 do you think I could be a supporter for Minetest compiling?
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10:54 mrscotty Hi. I'm setting up a minetest server for my boys and their friends. I have the latest client compiled for our Macs and the latest server on Ubuntu. Which game or games would you suggest as the best gaming experience?
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12:29 madarexxx Hi everybody. Could someone help me? How can i check, who is using a chat command? And how can i see coordinates of this player
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13:04 I-Punkt the recipe for Bucket doesnt work. the door also faild to create. minetest was installed via apt in ubuntu. someone an idea?
13:04 I-Punkt c550.3.1
13:08 thexyz compile newest minetest from source
13:10 I-Punkt where can i find new version?
13:11 I-Punkt ok, found it
13:11 I-Punkt thx
13:13 I-Punkt btw. this is a cool game! thx
13:21 I-Punkt new veryxi
13:21 I-Punkt new verrsion works fine. now sound and other stuff works..
13:21 I-Punkt thx cu
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13:42 jin_xi_ hey NekoGloop
13:46 NekoGloop ... What do you want.
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13:58 thexyz NekoGloop: why did you remove all you mods?
13:59 NekoGloop Because no one wanted them. No need to keep something unneeded.
14:01 thexyz well, that
14:01 thexyz 's your opinion only
14:02 NekoGloop That's a fact.
14:02 thexyz even though they were posted in "mod releases" section
14:02 thexyz not really nice
14:03 NekoGloop Not like i can move them back to modding general.
14:04 * OldCoder sighs
14:04 OldCoder So I need to set up a NekoMirror now?
14:04 OldCoder I've got my copies. I'll post calls for other NekoCopies periodically.
14:04 OldCoder I have other things to do and am quite tired
14:05 thexyz that's just odd
14:05 SmugLeaf mrscotty: i don't know what you are asking
14:05 OldCoder SmugLeaf, do you have copies of NekoGloop mods?
14:05 OldCoder If so, post them
14:05 NekoGloop Why would he? They're useless.
14:05 OldCoder Are you qualified to make that assessment?
14:05 OldCoder I feel the answer is no
14:05 SmugLeaf loling
14:05 OldCoder You are not objective enough
14:06 thexyz well, then i'd better ban neko from forums and recover all his posts (as I've done with cornernote's)
14:06 OldCoder thexyz, No need to ban
14:06 OldCoder But recover the posts please
14:06 OldCoder It is reasonable
14:06 OldCoder Personal sites elsewhere should not be mirrored
14:06 mrscotty SmugLeaf: The vanilla game seems to be minetest_game from celeron55. I'm trying to find out what the general difference is between the alternatives.
14:07 OldCoder As cornernote pointed out to me those are the property of the creators
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14:07 mrscotty SmugLeaf: I'm setting up the server for my kids, so I didn't want to go through all the games myself.
14:07 OldCoder mrscotty, Is this about MT? They may like Skyblock
14:08 OldCoder cornernote made it partly for his own kids
14:08 mrscotty Yes, it's about minetest. Hadn't seen Skyblock, yet.
14:08 OldCoder It is not bad
14:09 OldCoder thexyz, are cornernote posts back?
14:09 OldCoder Or elsewhere?
14:09 OldCoder mrscotty may wish to review the Skyblock posts
14:09 thexyz OldCoder: they are
14:09 OldCoder ty
14:10 thexyz OldCoder: what if he removes it once again?
14:10 OldCoder thexyz, cornernote may not repeat it
14:10 mrscotty OldCoder: thanks, I'll take a look. Goal is to find a cool game that has active development.
14:10 thexyz OldCoder: not cornernote, but NekoGloop
14:10 OldCoder thexyz, is it ethical to lock the threads temporarily?
14:10 OldCoder I can mirror them myself
14:10 OldCoder Once they are up
14:11 OldCoder NekoGloop, If people miss your threads, and you...
14:11 NekoGloop No one misses me.
14:11 OldCoder will you be arrogant enough to deny them your threads?
14:11 OldCoder NekoGloop, are you so sure?
14:12 NekoGloop Yes.
14:12 thexyz lol
14:12 OldCoder NekoGloop, You are not objective or sensible
14:12 thexyz and this is why OldCoder tries now to recover everything
14:12 OldCoder thexyz, decide whether or not the rules permit the threads to be locked
14:12 NekoGloop Just lock them, i dont care.
14:12 OldCoder Proceed according to the rules. I will capture the threads and mirror them if possible.
14:13 thexyz OldCoder: i do have access to some sort of forum backup
14:13 OldCoder thexyz, he has stated permission. Does this help?
14:13 OldCoder Since there is permission post the threads and lock them for now
14:13 NekoGloop Just ban me too, i dont care.
14:13 OldCoder If a lock is possible. They can be closed but if that means they are dead it is regrettable.
14:14 OldCoder NekoGloop, you must decide for yourself what you care about
14:14 NekoGloop OldCoder: If you hadnt noticed, they're dead already.
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14:14 OldCoder NekoGloop, you are not being clear
14:14 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
14:14 OldCoder PilzAdam, Hello
14:14 NekoGloop The topics; they're already dead.
14:15 thexyz ok, I've downloaded all of them
14:15 OldCoder NekoGloop, they are not
14:15 OldCoder thexyz, Do you wish to put them back online now and is it possible to lock them?
14:15 OldCoder Without a permanent close?
14:15 thexyz need some way to protect those topics of editing
14:15 OldCoder thexyz, mod the threads perhaps
14:15 OldCoder I thought that was one option
14:15 thexyz only one I can imagine is permanent ban for topics' author
14:16 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/search.php?action=show_user_topics&amp;user_id=2600
14:16 OldCoder So marking a thread as moderated is not possible?
14:16 OldCoder R
14:16 NekoGloop They're all dead.
14:16 OldCoder NekoGloop, He is preparing to restore them
14:16 thexyz oh, it seems I'd also need to ask c55 for that texture pack
14:16 OldCoder Will you permit this?
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14:17 NekoGloop If he wants to waste his time.
14:17 thexyz OldCoder: what do you mean by "marking a thread as moderated"?
14:17 OldCoder thexyz, Many forums have moderated threads. But it is a moot point if he will permit this
14:17 OldCoder He is implying that he will
14:18 OldCoder Put back the old posts if it is possible
14:18 OldCoder Let us see what happens
14:18 NekoGloop No one has even posted on the topics since i edited them.
14:18 OldCoder NekoGloop, your point?
14:18 NekoGloop No one cares.
14:18 thexyz OldCoder: I don't like to let him modify those threads once again
14:18 OldCoder thexyz, valid point
14:18 OldCoder thexyz, what if I capture them?
14:19 OldCoder and host copies?
14:19 NekoGloop thexyz: Ban me already. I dont care.
14:19 thexyz probably will need to ask celeron55 to change threads' author (if possible)
14:19 OldCoder NekoGloop, nobody is going to ban you if it can be avoided
14:19 thexyz well, not possible, but "easy enough"
14:19 NekoGloop Just take the links and post them.
14:19 OldCoder thexyz, two options then...
14:19 OldCoder (a) Restore and I will capture for mirrors
14:20 OldCoder (b) Restore and change thread author
14:20 OldCoder Or both
14:20 thexyz i prefer the second one
14:20 NekoGloop (c) take the links and repost them
14:20 OldCoder Proceed as time permits then
14:20 OldCoder NekoGloop, (a) is better
14:20 OldCoder Then there is context
14:21 OldCoder I must lie down for15 minutes
14:21 OldCoder bbiab
14:21 NekoGloop (c) means you can claim whatever amount you want. All of the shit i made was wtfpl.
14:22 celeron55 lol drama
14:22 NekoGloop No drama. Just facts. No one cared, so i removed my mods.
14:22 celeron55 i once made useless shit called "minetest", nobody cares about it
14:23 celeron55 could just remove it now
14:23 NekoGloop Go ahead.
14:27 SmugLeaf mrscotty: oh, you mean mods
14:27 mrscotty SmugLeaf: no, I mean the games that go in the games/ folder.
14:28 mrscotty There's minetest_game, realtest, minimal, minitest, avatar, etc...
14:29 mrscotty The idea is that if I pick one of the games that is most used, I'll have the least headaches when adding mods. Also, "most used" hopefully means "most coolness" ;-)
14:29 NekoGloop Then choose minimal.
14:36 RealBadAngel hello minetest
14:36 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, wheat textures?
14:36 RealBadAngel easy, weekend just started for me
14:36 RealBadAngel i had very tough week
14:37 RealBadAngel max 15 hrs at work
14:37 RealBadAngel when goin out at 5 am i was back on 10pm
14:38 RealBadAngel i havent coded even a single line since thursday
14:39 RealBadAngel we got a mess in forums
14:40 RealBadAngel i guess bot posted polish spam
14:40 RealBadAngel its a real mess
14:40 RealBadAngel propably some web page pasted there
14:41 RealBadAngel mix of news and ads
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14:56 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hi
14:56 RealBadAngel hi
14:56 OldCoder celeron55, Useless? Not true
14:57 jin_xi_ Hey RBA i'm continuing to overhaul tetris
14:57 OldCoder celeron55, you are wiser than I about many things. I am wiser than you about some. I know what matters now. What counts. Do not presume to judge your own creation. Time will do that.
14:57 jin_xi_ if you wanna work on it limit it to textures (background, buttons) atm
14:58 RealBadAngel jin_xi_, oke
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14:58 OldCoder babyface1031, Good morning to you
14:58 RealBadAngel i just started but need to make some more changes to main tree
14:58 RealBadAngel images are still not correctly scaled
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14:59 RealBadAngel i left this not changed but i think its necesary
14:59 babyface1031 good morning
15:00 RealBadAngel mornin? some just got back from work :)
15:00 RealBadAngel its 4pm here
15:01 babyface1031 it is 10 am here
15:01 RealBadAngel even that cant be called a mornin for me ;)
15:01 RealBadAngel i wake up 4am :)
15:02 OldCoder k
15:11 babyface1031 i been up just this is the first time able to get on the computer
15:11 RealBadAngel sure, just laughin at the different meanings of the time
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15:18 celeron55 OldCoder: i know that and what i said was a satirical comment
15:19 OldCoder celeron55, all right. I don't understand the satirical component. I'm a bit literal.
15:19 OldCoder That part of me is no longer a great secret
15:19 * OldCoder chuckles
15:20 OldCoder We may have visitors reading that now. Including my brother. Hey, Ken! :D
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15:25 iqualfragile1 celeron55: is the link to the survey needed anymore?
15:39 mrscotty OldCoder, thanks again for the tip on Skyblock--pretty wicked idea. My boys are 10 and 12, so I think I'll stick to the vanilla minetest_game and just add a couple of the most popular mods. I'll keep it simple and let them figure out whether they want to switch to a different game.
15:41 OldCoder mrscotty, give it time
15:41 OldCoder They will like the idea of building new worlds
15:41 OldCoder Tell them: When I was their age...
15:41 OldCoder We did it with wooden blocks and Lego :D
15:42 OldCoder Things have changed a little
15:42 OldCoder
15:42 OldCoder mrscotty, for lists of the mods that I use visit:
15:42 OldCoder http://minetest.org/
15:42 OldCoder
15:42 OldCoder I will post all of my versions soon
15:42 OldCoder They have small fixes and corrections
15:42 OldCoder Some of the mods are buggy but fun
15:43 OldCoder If you get Town Test for example...
15:43 OldCoder there is a servant who will build for you but you must feed him
15:43 OldCoder
15:44 OldCoder mrscotty, also it appears that Technic is fun and useful. Ask RealBadAngel for more information.
15:44 OldCoder
15:44 mrscotty sounds cool. just need to finish compiling the client on their computer and they'll be all set.
15:46 ruskie well technic generally requires a bit of effort to implement things but it's nice when you actually do the effort
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15:58 RealBadAngel on the raised problem, im goin to remove some dependecies, eat some other code
15:58 RealBadAngel and release Technic as standalone add-on
15:59 RealBadAngel i realize that installing all other stuff, lookin if in correct version can be a bit confusing for new users
15:59 RealBadAngel so im going to simplify it to the limits
16:01 ruskie won't that cause conflicts?
16:01 ruskie I didn't mean implement in terms of deploy but in terms of gameplay...
16:01 RealBadAngel definitely not
16:01 ruskie as in takes a bit of effort to do other stuff
16:02 RealBadAngel i want to work it that way:
16:02 RealBadAngel you get the game
16:02 RealBadAngel then dowload just 1 file
16:02 RealBadAngel and technic works
16:03 RealBadAngel i will take care of dep mod versions needed
16:03 RealBadAngel this way will be even easier not only for users but for me as well
16:04 ruskie so basically a modpack?
16:04 RealBadAngel i wont have to guess for example if user has mod mesecons already there but older version
16:04 RealBadAngel somethin in between a modpack and game mode
16:05 RealBadAngel i need features of both ways
16:06 RealBadAngel i have to do some testing, but i think if not sit in the middle, possibly go game mode way
16:10 anunakki hmm
16:19 RealBadAngel anunakki, hmm for what?
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16:24 ruskie hmm anything weird happening to the server?
16:24 ruskie europe that is
16:49 RealBadAngel like what?
16:49 ruskie odd lag
16:49 RealBadAngel joining
16:49 ruskie I try to craft and it doesn't set items around or just keeps swapping them around
16:50 RealBadAngel hah, still have Master Chef folks around
16:50 RealBadAngel so i guess Taokis code is pretty stable
16:50 RealBadAngel they were here standing for like 12 last hours
16:52 ruskie so when do we get carts on europe?
16:53 RealBadAngel patient, patient
16:53 RealBadAngel i guess EU is down
16:53 RealBadAngel cant login
16:53 ruskie hmm I'm on as is artur and his brother
16:53 RealBadAngel OldCoder: can you check?
16:53 ruskie but as said... seems leggy or something
16:54 RealBadAngel but i cant log in
16:54 ruskie I saw you join
16:54 ruskie then you dropped
16:54 ruskie actually still see you
16:55 ruskie and we are chatting
16:55 ruskie there even says you joined
16:55 RealBadAngel lol
16:55 RealBadAngel i guess thats weekend
16:57 RealBadAngel i think i will just finish watchin "Looper" movie and then take a nap
17:02 ruskie mm seems like when artur99 goes off things clear up a bit
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17:03 Jordach hello everyone
17:06 Jordach Taoki_1 one hot metadata skin coming right up
17:08 ruskie OldCoder, did you do a fresh backup once the server was back up?
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17:13 Doc22 ugh i think i made babyface ragequit on 30004
17:14 Jordach Taoki_1 - you here?
17:14 Doc22 i was throwing snowballs
17:14 Doc22 i was going to pick them up
17:14 Doc22 -_-
17:14 Doc22 hey oldcoder
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17:17 OldCoder Doc22, Hi
17:17 Doc22 hey
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17:18 OldCoder ruskie, not yet; wanted you to test it
17:18 Doc22 i came here to try and find babyface
17:18 OldCoder I will shut down now for backup if you agree
17:18 Doc22 [10:13] <Doc22> ugh i think i made babyface ragequit on 30004
17:18 OldCoder Doc22, she was here earlier
17:18 OldCoder What happened?
17:18 Doc22 i was throwing snowballs
17:18 OldCoder And?
17:18 Doc22 and she saw them and just said STOP
17:18 Doc22 then left
17:18 OldCoder Hmm
17:18 Doc22 i was about to clean it up
17:18 OldCoder Sounds resolvablle
17:18 OldCoder *ble
17:19 Doc22 i dont make messes without cleaning them up in minetest
17:19 OldCoder If it was impolite please apologize if she comes back
17:19 OldCoder All right
17:19 Doc22 thats why i came on
17:19 Jordach brb - FOOOOODDD!
17:19 Doc22 not here...
17:19 Doc22 lol
17:19 Doc22 i have done all I am going to do on that song i was working n
17:19 Doc22 on
17:19 Doc22 here it is
17:19 Doc22 http://tffs.castraponere.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Monotonous_Perfection.wav
17:19 Doc22 if anyone wants to hear it
17:20 Doc22 its my first song that doesnt make me delete it right away because it sounds like crap
17:20 Doc22 lol
17:20 OldCoder R
17:20 Doc22 r?
17:20 OldCoder Doc22, things improve
17:20 OldCoder R = Reviewing
17:20 Doc22 yeah
17:20 Doc22 oh ok
17:20 OldCoder Doc22, I have seen it again and again
17:20 Doc22 2:10
17:20 Doc22 yeah
17:21 Doc22 i am done with this song
17:21 OldCoder R
17:21 Doc22 there is one spot that doesnt mix
17:21 Doc22 i might fix it
17:21 Doc22 but idk
17:21 Doc22 still have the project file
17:21 OldCoder Downloading
17:21 Doc22 ok
17:22 Doc22 i took out that slow part where it stops for a second
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17:22 Doc22 hey
17:22 Calinou hi
17:22 OldCoder Playing WAV file
17:22 Doc22 ok
17:23 OldCoder This is the one from before, right?
17:23 Doc22 yes
17:23 OldCoder Tempo seems a bit faster
17:23 Doc22 i just made it longer and fixed the slow one
17:23 Doc22 yeah i increased it a bit
17:23 OldCoder All right. It's a little snappier.
17:23 Doc22 not as good sound quality with .wav as in the editor
17:23 OldCoder Don't save it as WAV
17:23 Doc22 ogg?
17:24 OldCoder This is a MOD type song
17:24 OldCoder Not WAV OGG etc.
17:24 OldCoder MOD or other module type
17:24 Doc22 oh ok
17:24 OldCoder Many programs can play them
17:24 Doc22 wav is just the kind everyone knows
17:24 OldCoder Talk to RealBadAngel about this type of music
17:24 Doc22 lol
17:24 OldCoder No
17:24 Doc22 ok
17:24 OldCoder WAV is different
17:24 OldCoder This is Tracker
17:24 OldCoder This was his world 20 years ago
17:24 Doc22 i didnt see a .mod file extension for export
17:24 OldCoder Speak to him for advice about getting started
17:25 Doc22 ok
17:25 OldCoder Any module or tracker type
17:25 Doc22 ok
17:25 OldCoder If program does not have it
17:25 OldCoder use a different program
17:25 Doc22 im using lmms
17:25 OldCoder There are many
17:25 OldCoder I should have that but do not yet
17:25 Doc22 its free
17:25 OldCoder Music is O.K. as an early type
17:25 Doc22 yeah
17:25 OldCoder Doc22, there are dozens of free programs
17:25 Doc22 like what?
17:25 Doc22 a few examples?
17:25 OldCoder You are moving into the module or tracker world
17:25 OldCoder Hold on
17:26 Doc22 o
17:26 Doc22 ok
17:26 Doc22 lmms probably has support for mod
17:26 Calinou lol... .wacv
17:26 Calinou .wav*
17:26 Doc22 lol
17:26 Doc22 its what i know
17:26 Doc22 i dont know about sound formats much
17:26 OldCoder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_tracker
17:26 Doc22 I know about code
17:26 OldCoder Read that
17:26 OldCoder RealBadAngel knows one of the people on it I think
17:26 Doc22 and making music in lmms
17:27 Doc22 ok ill read it
17:27 tkln wait what?! lmms is not a tracker!
17:27 Doc22 huh?
17:27 Doc22 i dont know sound terms
17:27 OldCoder tkln, I mean the type of music he should make
17:27 OldCoder Not necessarily what he is doing now
17:27 tkln well okay
17:27 FreeFull lmms is a pianoroll thing
17:27 OldCoder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_file
17:27 OldCoder Doc22, also read that
17:28 Doc22 reading
17:28 OldCoder RealBadAngel, if you see this later talk to Doc22 about the past and music
17:29 OldCoder http://www.renoise.com/
17:29 OldCoder Doc22, I have not tried that program but have heard of it ^
17:29 Doc22 ok
17:29 Doc22 right now i have a really slow pc
17:29 Doc22 so i dont know about installing a new program
17:29 OldCoder http://www.soundtracker.org/
17:29 Doc22 i am building a faster one though
17:29 OldCoder That one is old and may work for you ^
17:29 Doc22 ok
17:30 Doc22 yeah irish narrator on the renoise video
17:30 Doc22 WOOOO
17:31 tkln milkytracker is a quite nice tracker. it's free, still maintained and multiplatform. it's mainly an xm trackrer but can do mods and other formats too.
17:31 Doc22 ok
17:31 Doc22 ill look if lmms supports mods
17:32 Doc22 i just started to get comfortable with it...
17:32 FreeFull My problem with milkytracker is that it's not 100% accurate
17:32 OldCoder Yes I just found it
17:32 OldCoder Not familiar with it
17:33 OldCoder Doc22, there are three examples: soundtracker milkytracker renoise plus google free tracker programs
17:33 Doc22 ok
17:33 ruskie gungirl sequencer might be of interest as well
17:33 OldCoder ruskie, shutting down Europe to backup
17:34 Doc22 i just started to get used to lmms that is why i dont want to switch
17:34 Doc22 lol
17:34 OldCoder If it is not the right choice
17:34 OldCoder Then you must switch
17:35 Doc22 lol
17:35 Doc22 i should have researched more
17:36 Doc22 gtg
17:36 OldCoder cu
17:37 Jordach damn, wheres Taoki_1
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17:41 mito551 sfan5?
17:41 mito551 are you here?
17:41 sfan5 yes
17:41 mito551 good
17:41 mito551 hi
17:42 mito551 can you help me?
17:45 mito551 sfan5?
17:45 sfan5 yws
17:45 sfan5 *yes
17:45 mito551 will you help me?
17:45 mito551 please?
17:45 sfan5 yes
17:46 mito551 i'm trying to compile mt on windows
17:46 mito551 through mingw
17:46 sfan5 wheres the problem?
17:46 mito551 and i'm getting this:
17:46 sfan5 ..
17:47 mito551 wait a sec :DD
17:47 mito551 Creating library file: ..\bin\libminetest.dll.a CMakeFiles\minetest.dir/objects.a(sky.cpp.obj):sky.cpp:(.text$_ZN3irr5scene10ISceneNode11getMaterialEj[__ZN3irr5scene10I SceneNode11getMaterialEj]+0x1): undefined reference to `_imp___ZN3irr5video16IdentityMaterialE' CMakeFiles\minetest.dir/objects.a(content_cao.cpp.obj):content_cao.cpp:(.text$_ZN10GenericCAO14updateTexturesERKSs[__ZN1 0GenericCAO14updateTexturesERKSs]+0x7b6): undefin
17:48 sfan5 the irrlicht version you're using seems to be too old/new for minetest
17:48 mito551 oh
17:49 mito551 thank you!
17:49 mito551 i have to use 1.7.2, right?
17:49 sfan5 it works with 1.7.3
17:49 sfan5 1.7.2 should work too
17:49 mito551 i'm using 1.7.3
17:51 Jordach does anyone know where to apply textures to a model in blender?
17:51 sfan5 do you use the irrlicht 1.7.3 headers to compile minetest?
17:51 sfan5 Jordach: textures tab on the left
17:51 mito551 and, if this isn't a trouble, could you please tell me (quite briefly) how do you compile?
17:51 mito551 headers?
17:52 sfan5 https://raw.github.com/celeron55/minetest/master/README.txt
17:53 sfan5 mito551: irrlicht sdk/headers
17:54 mito551 well, yeah
17:54 mito551 i'm using it
17:54 mito551 i downloaded it from this page
17:54 mito551 1.7.3
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17:56 sfan5 hmmm, it should work
17:56 sfan5 mito551: mingw version?
17:57 mito551 wait a sec, i'll check
17:58 mito551 kind of latest. installer says 20120426
18:00 sfan5 hm
18:00 mito551 0.5-beta
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18:01 sfan5 i'm sorry, but i'm afraid that i can't help you
18:01 mito551 well, this is sad
18:02 mito551 do you cross-compile?
18:02 sfan5 es
18:02 sfan5 yes
18:02 sfan5 http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds
18:03 mito551 what is your main system?
18:03 sfan5 thanks for "reminding" me that i have to do a new build
18:03 mito551 yeah, i know where they are :)
18:03 sfan5 linux :)
18:03 mito551 oh, uhm. you're welcome
18:03 mito551 yeah, that's kind of obvious
18:03 sfan5 :D
18:04 mito551 which distribution
18:04 sfan5 ubuntu
18:04 mito551 ubuntu? gentoo?
18:04 mito551 ok, thanks
18:04 sfan5 gentoo is way to complicated to install....
18:04 mito551 and then... may i ask you to build one fork?
18:04 mito551 lol, yeah, i know
18:05 sfan5 i will build any fork for you
18:06 mito551 thank you!
18:06 mito551 this one
18:06 mito551 https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest/tree/models
18:06 sfan5 someone already asked me to build that
18:06 sfan5 gimme 2 mins
18:08 mito551 probably it was me :D
18:08 mito551 thank you anyway :)
18:10 sfan5 np
18:13 sfan5 mito551: building..
18:13 mito551 awesome!
18:13 mito551 and i ran into another problem (dunno if i have fixed the other one :DD)
18:14 mito551 C:\Users\Mitori\Desktop\models\minetest-models_sound\src\sound_openal.cpp:27:17:  fatal error: al.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. src\CMakeFiles\minetest.dir\build.make:1382: recipe for target 'src/CMakeFiles/m inetest.dir/sound_openal.cpp.obj' failed mingw32-make[3]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/minetest.dir/sound_openal.cpp.obj] Error 1 CMakeFiles\Makefile2:89: recipe for target 'src/CMakeFiles/minetest.dir/all' fai l
18:15 sfan5 you forgot to disable sound OR install the openal headers
18:15 mito551 yeah, the problem is
18:16 mito551 i did intall the headers... as far as i know
18:16 mito551 the openal*
18:17 Jordach Taoki_1 - present
18:18 sfan5 mito551: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.3-5292476-models-122bf0012c-win32.7z
18:18 mito551 amazing, thanks!
18:18 * Jordach needs to test textures
18:19 Jordach and i9 sneakily wrote for mt in bright red
18:20 Jordach sfan5 - y u pull c55/minetest_game
18:20 Jordach >:(
18:20 sfan5 Jordach: what?
18:20 telek Hey, does anyone here have an idea on why the distance code seems to load blocks way out in the distance?
18:21 Jordach the models is a differet branch in Taoki_1 's git
18:21 telek Even if you have your vision distance set to '5' it'll still show blocks that are like 100+ away from you. But only random segments (be they 'same level' as you, or many units below/above you.
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18:30 OldCoder babyface1031, Hi
18:30 OldCoder babyface1031, PM
18:30 babyface1031 hi
18:30 Jordach http://ompldr.org/vZ2J0Zw/testmodel.PNG
18:31 NakedFury can it be possible to have the selection box be the same as the model and not a huge rectangle?
18:32 Jordach ask Taoki_1
18:32 NakedFury are you using windows xp or just a windows XP theme on another newer OS?
18:32 Jordach xp home ed
18:32 Jordach (sp3 w/ full updates)
18:33 FreeFull Woot, 3d players
18:33 FreeFull How well do they work
18:33 Jordach no anims
18:33 Jordach bar "breathing"
18:33 Jordach which is default
18:33 Jordach all of it is smooth
18:33 Jordach FreeFull - go compile Taoki_1's models branch
18:33 * Jordach whips a server up
18:34 FreeFull Don't have time to test it out right now
18:34 Jordach damn :(
18:34 mito551 what is taoki_1's branch?
18:35 Jordach the one sfan5 just made
18:35 Jordach duh.
18:35 mito551 oh
18:35 mito551 ok
18:35 mito551 i thought it was kitsune's
18:35 mito551 so kitsune=taoki
18:35 Jordach 217.43.96.130
18:35 mito551 what
18:35 Jordach 30000
18:35 Jordach thats the server im now testing
18:36 mito551 cool
18:42 Jordach mito551 http://minetest.org/clients/minetestnc-121020.zip
18:42 mito551 thank you
18:43 Jordach non-cached version
18:43 * Jordach put a password on a local world
18:44 Jordach :P
18:46 mito551 is it compiled?
18:46 Jordach yes
18:46 mito551 cool
18:47 mito551 is it being updated?
18:47 Jordach it only works with OldCoder's servers
18:47 Jordach (about 15 to choose from)
18:47 mito551 oh
18:47 mito551 ok
18:48 Jordach mito551 starting world
18:48 mito551 with oldcoder>
18:48 mito551 with oldcoder?
18:49 Jordach yes
18:49 mito551 same ip
18:49 Jordach yes
18:50 Jordach mito551 - technic has music files :(
18:50 mito551 So?
18:52 thexyz OldCoder: i've uploaded all neko's mods to mods.minetest.ru, feel free to rsync now
19:04 Jordach mito551 - should i shutdown the server now?
19:04 mito551 i'm not playing, as you wish
19:04 Jordach okay.
19:04 Jordach at one point i will open it up
19:05 Jordach annnd chrome works again#
19:05 Jordach fu bad image
19:05 mito551 good for you
19:05 mito551 dwarves work so great on this fork
19:05 mito551 thank you
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19:14 OldCoder Hi
19:14 OldCoder thexyz, I think I will mirror as opposed to rsync
19:14 OldCoder then I will get all versions and releases
19:15 OldCoder Europe World restarting
19:15 OldCoder Outage yesterday was due to crash at the hot
19:15 OldCoder Outage yesterday was due to crash at the host *
19:15 OldCoder All his VPS went down
19:15 OldCoder We regret any inconvenience
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19:30 telek Nobody has any ideas?
19:30 mito551 what's the question?
19:31 telek Chunks are popping up in the client way past whatever the viewing distance you set.
19:32 telek Reproducible. Set your viewing distance to 5 then wander around and you should have some cells either underground or way off in the distance that are visible.
19:32 telek Even without full viewing enabled.
19:32 mito551 do you want to get rid of them?
19:33 telek I'd run into this a long while back, but assumed it was settings on my part, but it appears to be a bug, since it showed up even on a vanilla install with a vanilla conf file.
19:33 mito551 i don't know neither why it hapenns, nor how to fix this
19:33 mito551 and don't even condider to be considerable bug :D
19:33 mito551 but yes, you're not alone
19:34 mito551 i saw this happening as well
19:35 telek It's a rather significant bug since it'll kill FPS on lower end systems, and additionally is probably what screws up the chunk loading when people run into the 'blank wall' issue where the chunks in the direction you're moving aren't showing up in time.
19:35 mito551 oh.
19:35 telek Since I often see chunks popping up everywhere EXCEPT where I'm going and usually far off from any of the directions I've been in.
19:35 mito551 have you tried oldcoders fork?
19:36 telek Nope, got a link?
19:36 mito551 http://minetest.org/clients/minetestnc-121020.zip
19:36 mito551 yep ;)
19:36 telek Source or binary?
19:36 mito551 binary
19:36 mito551 win32
19:36 telek I'm linux.
19:36 mito551 oh, sry
19:38 telek OldCoder: You run into that?
19:39 mito551 i can't seem to find source(
19:39 mito551 maybe you should go with wine?
19:40 telek Already am, but that obviously is not a long term solution.
19:40 mito551 yeah, probably not
19:41 mito551 http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/mineinfo.html#SECTION03
19:41 mito551 that seems to be it
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19:41 OldCoder Hi
19:41 OldCoder Run into what?
19:41 OldCoder Reading up
19:42 OldCoder I've had problems that may be similar
19:42 telek OldCoder: The viewing range stuff appears to be broken.
19:42 OldCoder Hmm
19:42 OldCoder With my servers and clients?
19:42 OldCoder I'm going to update soon
19:42 telek It's all minetest clients.
19:42 OldCoder I'd like to know which problems persist after tht
19:42 telek Dating back to 0.3 era I think.
19:42 OldCoder *that
19:44 telek I was getting chunks loaded from areas way the heck away from my player position back in march and possibly before. I'd assumed it was due to setting the chunk load ranges up high, but the same stuff is happening on multiple clients with vanilla configuration files and is noticable even with viewing range set to '5'
19:46 telek Also: Is looking down supposed to make everything 'black out'?
19:47 OldCoder Reviewing
19:47 OldCoder telek, I'm not qualified to comment yet but I'll start to track this kind of thing
19:50 telek OldCoder: Thanks. It's possible this is also what's been causing the animal code and other things to crash on me stating so and so animal was unloaded when trying to do movement.
19:53 OldCoder I couldn't say but am willing to help if I can
19:55 telek Besides celeron55 is there anyone knowledgable in the chunk loading code either client or server-side?
19:55 * telek has no idea where to start with diagnosing that problem.
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19:55 bulletrulz hello
19:56 telek I'm assuming however that it's a bug, possibly involving 'viewing angles' and that somehow affecting the distance calculations involved, leading to cells that are far away being calculated as close to the player.
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20:01 Doc22 heya oldcoder
20:01 OldCoder Doc22, yes
20:02 OldCoder telek, ok
20:02 Doc22 i siad hi
20:02 OldCoder bulletrulz, hello
20:02 OldCoder Doc22, Indeed
20:02 OldCoder Hello
20:02 OldCoder Howdy
20:02 Doc22 hey
20:02 OldCoder How are you
20:02 Doc22 hauw
20:02 OldCoder Yeh
20:02 OldCoder yeh
20:02 OldCoder etc.
20:02 Doc22 im good
20:02 OldCoder All right
20:02 Doc22 how about you
20:02 Doc22 u good
20:02 OldCoder Hmm
20:02 Doc22 gread
20:02 OldCoder Difficult to say
20:02 Doc22 great
20:02 Doc22 awesome
20:02 OldCoder gread?
20:02 OldCoder Ah
20:02 OldCoder Ahsome
20:02 Doc22 typos...
20:02 OldCoder Damn typos
20:02 Doc22 lol
20:04 tkln umm. minetest crashes when i trying to play either single- or multiplayer. http://pastie.org/5389191 this at least happens with the 0.4.3 release and the latest git version.
20:05 OldCoder R
20:05 telek tkin: With or without mods?
20:05 OldCoder Wait
20:05 tkln i haven't installed any mods.
20:05 OldCoder Built latest client?
20:05 OldCoder Using same code?
20:05 tkln yes
20:06 OldCoder I'm staying a revision back for now; using thexyz fork
20:06 OldCoder Bleeding edge may be a bit crashy
20:16 celeron55 tkln: that looks very odd; do you know if you are using some kind of unusual keyboard input things or locales?
20:17 celeron55 also, i see that is irrlicht 1.8 (instead of 1.7), that might have something to do with it too
20:17 telek celeron55: Any thoughts on the viewing distance issue?
20:18 celeron55 yes, there is some kind of a bug
20:19 telek Any pointer on where I should be looking for it?
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20:21 LAD hello?
20:21 tkln well i use a custom xmodmap for my keyboard layout. also tried it with standard us qwerty layout with same results. the clients which failed were built from aur. i actually now have 0.4.3 manually built client working.
20:21 telek LAD: Hello!
20:21 LAD hi
20:21 LAD i have a qestion
20:21 LAD is minetest.net working any
20:21 Jordach LAD - do you have hamachi?
20:21 LAD yes
20:21 telek LAD: For future reference, just ask your question and then people will reply when we have time. Asking to ask a question is annoying :)
20:22 Jordach theres your problem
20:22 LAD ??
20:22 LAD and telek srry and thnx
20:22 Jordach hamachis systems gone wrong and wont load some websites
20:22 LAD will terning it off work
20:22 telek LAD: Np, common question with new-er IRC users :)
20:22 Jordach LAD - apparently not
20:22 telek What's a hamachi anyways?
20:22 LAD hmmm
20:22 LAD its
20:23 LAD a chat thingy
20:23 telek Oh the one that does chat alongside a website?
20:23 LAD that gives u ips and stuff
20:23 Jordach Hamachi: A freeware/paid for professional VPN service
20:23 LAD yea
20:25 telek Oh ok.
20:25 LAD so i would need to get ride of hamachi to fix it??
20:25 Jordach yes
20:25 LAD darn
20:26 tkln hm, okay, and now after removing ~/.minetest the clients which previously failed are working fine.
20:30 LAD thnx Jordach
20:30 LAD It's working now
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20:38 Mikeonline hi
20:39 OldCoder Mikeonline, hi back
20:42 NekoGloop joined #minetest
20:46 LAD yea it worked
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20:47 Octupus Hi
20:52 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&amp;v=2a497Hom8Gg
20:53 Octupus Hi gloop
20:54 PilzAdam gtg; bye
21:00 OldCoder I will be away for a few houors
21:00 OldCoder *hours
21:00 OldCoder NekoGloop, hello
21:00 OldCoder thexyz, I don't recall if the NekoGloop thread issue is settled; see if the author can be changed
21:01 OldCoder Back later
21:01 Octupus bye Coder
21:05 Octupus Hi sfan
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21:06 Jordach night all
21:18 celeron55 http://jarkko1.deviantart.com/#/d5d2l2v
21:18 telek celeron55: That's a real sword, not a model?
21:19 NekoGloop telek: Of course.
21:20 NekoGloop If you read, that was made from base iron ore.
21:20 telek The patterning down the middle of the blade made me think it was a render.
21:20 telek Never seen something like that in RL.
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21:21 jin_xi_ nice
21:23 telek NekoGloop: Yeah I'd just looked at the first picture on that link when I'd commented.
21:24 harrison finland looks exactly like the upper peninsula
21:24 telek harrison: Upper Peninsula of where? :D
21:25 harrison michigan
21:25 harrison also, many finns settled there
21:31 harrison maybe "thus, ..."
21:31 harrison we had "finlander" jokes in school
21:32 harrison "What is yellow and has fins? A schoolbus from Eben!"
21:35 Mikeonline does anyone knows what defaultmod initlua nodeupdate(p) does?
21:35 NekoGloop Mikeonline: Falling.
21:36 Mikeonline hm
21:40 Mikeonline iam trying to figure out why the on dig on place of nodeownership works for default mod
21:40 Mikeonline but not for most newer ones
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21:42 telek harrison: Hahaha, funny.
21:42 NekoGloop Minecraft technic has a pick that auto-smelts whatever i mine. It's really cool!
21:44 harrison smelts are filter feeders imo
21:45 harrison http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smelt_(fish)
21:45 NekoGloop Haha.
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21:48 cosarara97 hi
21:49 Mikeonline hm seems that if someone overwrites the on_place function it cant be overwritten by nodeownership
21:49 Mikeonline is there a way to always chain other on_place functions?
21:52 Octupus NekoGloop,paid or cracked
21:52 NekoGloop Gift card.
21:52 NekoGloop So paid.
21:53 cosarara97 Huh, I cannot answer the stop bots questions D:
21:53 cosarara97 "What is a minetest add-on called?" - Answer: "Mod" - Incorrect :(
21:53 Octupus Cool
21:53 cosarara97 paid what?
21:54 NekoGloop cosarara97: MC
21:55 NekoGloop Octupus: I mostly play technic.
21:55 Octupus O
21:55 cosarara97 Still no luck with the stop bots question... does anyone know the answer?
21:56 NekoGloop cosarara97: Try "game mode.
21:56 NekoGloop s/./"/
21:58 cosarara97 Nope :( Question changed: "What is the name of the game in reverse?" Answer: "tseteniM" - Wrong
22:00 NekoGloop cosarara97: Try "em etiB"
22:02 cosarara97 oh, this anti-bots plugin hates me, doesn't it?
22:08 NekoGloop Yes. Yes it does.
22:11 jin_xi_ RealBadAngel: you here?
22:14 cosarara97 good night all
22:16 * telek waves.
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22:36 bulletrulz HOLY FUCK LOOK AT THE PRICCE ON THESE
22:36 bulletrulz http://www.amazon.com/Hostess-Twinkies-individually-wrapped-twinkies/dp/B0027AR7RU
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22:39 Muadtralk ello #minetest
22:39 bulletrulz hey dude
22:39 bulletrulz Muadtralk, look at THE FUCKING PRICE
22:39 bulletrulz http://www.amazon.com/Hostess-Twinkies-individually-wrapped-twinkies/dp/B0027AR7RU
22:40 * bulletrulz still has a twinkie box in his cabnit
22:40 Muadtralk yeah hostess is going out of business isnt it?
22:41 bulletrulz yep
22:41 bulletrulz and i have a box of twinkies IM GONNA BE RICH MOTHER FUCKA
22:42 bulletrulz I WANT 2 MILLON DOLLERS
22:44 telek bulletrulz: Wow.
22:44 telek I could use that sort of money per-twinkie :D
22:44 telek Just produce a dozen of them a year, maybe even put some diamonds in them for good measure :D
22:45 telek minetest-twinkie :D
22:45 telek Now with 98 percent more minerals :D
22:45 NekoGloop telek: Mese flavored!
22:46 telek Twinkies for cosmetic purposes only, do no attempt to eat. Any damage to teeth resulting from ingestion of twinkies is waived by purchaser of twinkie.
22:46 bulletrulz im gonna sell mine in 2 years when there worth 10 millon dollers each
22:46 bulletrulz ill put em in my ultra frezzer locker thingy
22:46 * telek still has a case of Halo 3 Dew to sell :D
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22:50 bulletrulz <IdleOne> Are you trying to be stupid or does it just come natural?
22:50 bulletrulz * Evil_Eric (~eric@2602:306:2500:4e49:d04d:70af:786f:cb23) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic
22:50 bulletrulz <bulletrulz> um preety damn stupid why?
22:50 bulletrulz * michealPW (~michealPW@165-154-38-23.ispnetbilling.com) has left #ubuntu-offtopic
22:50 bulletrulz <IdleOne> In that case I'll try to not use big words
22:50 bulletrulz <bulletrulz> ok thnk u
22:50 bulletrulz lol
22:50 bulletrulz XD
22:59 bulletrulz lol
22:59 bulletrulz <FloodBot1> You can now speak again. Please ask your question, giving the relevant Pastebin URL.
22:59 bulletrulz <bulletrulz> fuck u
22:59 bulletrulz <bulletrulz> ass hole
22:59 bulletrulz <bulletrulz> suck my giant cock
22:59 bulletrulz <bulletrulz> fuck u
23:03 * telek eyerolls.
23:03 telek There's always at least one, eh?
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23:18 KikaRz hi there!
23:18 KikaRz celeron55, why the minetest.net is offline?
23:18 Kacey joined #minetest
23:18 Kacey hello
23:18 KikaRz Hi
23:19 Kacey how r u
23:19 KikaRz hi redcrab, your server still with 0.3.1? or it advanced? i just want to know if you got 0.3.1 or 0.4.1
23:19 KikaRz Im fine thanks
23:19 Kacey either version is sorta out dated now thanks to 0.4.3
23:19 KikaRz ...
23:20 KikaRz Kacey, i got a badful computer, i can't play that versions because i got No OpenGL support
23:20 Kacey ya
23:20 KikaRz if i was having support, i was playing minecraft this time
23:20 KikaRz now i thank to celeron55 that created minetest. *-*
23:20 Kacey change it to direct3d
23:20 KikaRz ...
23:21 KikaRz 0.4.3 dont have support to D3D
23:21 KikaRz but i'll try.
23:21 KikaRz Link please.
23:21 NekoGloop Yes it does.
23:21 KikaRz Minetest.net is offline.
23:21 Kacey how is it offline?
23:21 KikaRz Ups! O Google Chrome não conseguiu estabelecer ligação a minetest.net .
23:21 KikaRz Translated:
23:22 KikaRz Oops! Google Chrome could not establish connection to minetest.net
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23:22 Kacey ill try once internet speeds up a little
23:23 KikaRz I got a question.
23:23 KikaRz Hi ecube.
23:23 KikaRz We can load 0.3.1 map to 0.4.3 ?
23:23 Kacey what is your question?
23:23 KikaRz or 0.4.1?
23:23 KikaRz i guess we can...
23:23 KikaRz but not sure.
23:23 Kacey uuuuum i think it can
23:24 KikaRz ok
23:24 KikaRz that's because i built a Fantastic house
23:24 Kacey but what do i know i am just a code monkey anyway lol
23:24 KikaRz uu uu da da...
23:24 KikaRz xd
23:25 Kacey i deleted my 0.3.1 files for 0.4.3
23:25 telek KikaRz: Old maps work fine all the way back to the pre-sql formats AFAIK
23:25 KikaRz Ok.
23:25 KikaRz Why celeron puts musics here http://c55.me/temp/ ?
23:25 telek However terrain may or may not match up, especially with mods.
23:25 Kacey YAY i was right!!!!!!!
23:26 Kacey i am going to get off now
23:26 * telek waves @ Kacey.
23:27 KikaRz telek, but all blocks are ok?
23:27 KikaRz like that white block that appears in creative that cant be destroyed with a iron pickaxe?
23:27 telek KikaRz: So far. My main worldfile dates back to at least 0.3, maybe earlier.
23:27 KikaRz ok
23:27 telek KikaRz: That's only an issue with mods.
23:28 KikaRz there isnt an alternative way to get into minetest.net to download 0.4.3 ?
23:28 KikaRz because minetest.net here is offline
23:28 telek If the mods don't set block settings properly, some may be un-minable.
23:28 telek KikaRz: Hamachi?
23:28 KikaRz Yes, i got :D
23:28 telek You have to disable Hamachi to get minetest.net to load properly.
23:28 KikaRz nope
23:28 telek No idea why, but apparently people hve been having problems all day.
23:29 KikaRz so, before, i was with hamachi, and i could enter
23:29 KikaRz now i cant
23:29 KikaRz anyways
23:29 KikaRz going to disable hamachi
23:29 KikaRz and retrying
23:29 telek As I said, it's a problem with hamachi. Needs to be fully disabled for minetest.net to work. I don't know the reason why, I think Jordach or somebody knew.
23:29 KikaRz Retrying... 5 seconds.... Nothing.
23:29 telek It's been a problem all day apparently and lots of players have been coming on irc to ask why :D
23:30 KikaRz not just today.
23:30 KikaRz but yes, this week
23:30 telek Does: http://5.9.130.165 work?
23:31 KikaRz No, because you aren't on my network
23:31 KikaRz and its totally turned off
23:31 telek Ahh I don't know anything about this hamachi.
23:31 telek Only that it's the source of the problem and minetest.net works fine for everyone else.
23:32 KikaRz ok
23:32 KikaRz why celeron got this? http://c55.me/temp/Nova%20-%20Best%20Of%20Nova%20-%20Back.JPG its hillarious
23:32 telek That IP was the ip to the minetest server, which would at least tell you if the problem was the domain name or the ip address itself.
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23:32 KikaRz lol
23:33 KikaRz Oooh... uh lala.... http://c55.me/temp/6238.jpg celeron likes girls.
23:39 Mikeonline n8
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23:46 KikaRz Good night
23:46 KikaRz :)
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23:58 Kacey wow nobody is on
23:58 Kacey has minetest died already?!?!?!
23:59 Kacey anybody?

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