Time Nick Message 00:25 RealBadAngel all is done but not workin ;) debuggin time :) 00:32 RealBadAngel jin_xi: i think its ready for multiplayer 00:32 * VanessaE pokes NekoGloop, IPV6 style. 00:32 VanessaE dammit 00:32 RealBadAngel hi 00:33 VanessaE hi 00:33 RealBadAngel jin_xi, yup, im uploading the changes 00:33 jin_xi ok 00:37 RealBadAngel lotsa changes this time 00:37 RealBadAngel its online 00:38 RealBadAngel please test it 00:38 RealBadAngel VanessaE, wanna play tetris maybe? :) 00:38 VanessaE not right now, reading up on model railroading :D 00:38 RealBadAngel its playable on servers even now 00:44 jin_xi testin 00:47 jin_xi cool, playing two games at once 00:47 RealBadAngel hehehe 00:50 RealBadAngel now what? coin slot? :) 00:51 RealBadAngel 1 iron ingot = 10 coins, 1 coin = 1 game 00:51 jin_xi sounds good 00:51 VanessaE no way. use brass. 00:52 VanessaE 1 brass -> 10 brass coins. 00:52 VanessaE :-) 00:52 VanessaE iron's too easy to find, make the player work for their fun :-) 00:52 RealBadAngel i think that the arcade machine shall depend only on default mods 00:53 RealBadAngel and nothin more 00:53 VanessaE THIS is why I advocate moreores and moreblocks being part of the default game. 00:53 RealBadAngel if moreores will be merged than it could be changed 00:53 RealBadAngel me too 00:55 jin_xi anyways recipes are easy enough for anyone to switch 00:56 jin_xi i mean server people who want to avoid dependencies 00:56 RealBadAngel for start it can be iron 00:59 RealBadAngel http://icons.iconarchive.com/icons/iron-devil/treasures/16/Silver-coin-icon.png 00:59 RealBadAngel something like this 01:00 RealBadAngel License: Free for non-commercial use. 01:00 RealBadAngel Commercial usage: Not allowed 01:01 RealBadAngel i think its ok for us? 01:01 jin_xi i think it would look better centered and flipped 01:01 VanessaE better to draw your own 01:04 RealBadAngel well, since on arcade thers 5cents per game, maybe picture of 5c coin? :) 01:05 VanessaE 25c is the more common cost of a video game, at least in the US.. 01:05 VanessaE or at least it was when I was growing up anyway 01:05 RealBadAngel http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1970-S-Jefferson-Nickel-5c-Coin-UNC-/03/!CE9%29nEQEGk~$%28KGrHqR,!gwE06HgYVpZBNTqeOUeIQ~~_39.JPG 01:05 RealBadAngel its an veeeery old arcade machine :) 01:10 OldCoder Veeeeeeery old 01:10 OldCoder ve+ry old 01:13 NakedFury RBA you adding money to the game? 01:16 RealBadAngel coins for arcade machine 01:16 telek VanessaE: Model Railroad, planning to become a virtual Railroad tycoon? :D 01:16 VanessaE heh 01:17 VanessaE no, just getting ready to set up a little ~2.4x1.2m HO-scale layout 01:19 VanessaE got a metric assload of track on the way, now I'm looking up proper roadbed/ballast.. Something cheap and somewhat realistic 01:19 VanessaE (probably adhesive-backed foam) 01:22 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/arcade.png 01:22 telek Oh neat :) 01:23 VanessaE use a 25-cent marker 01:23 VanessaE 5 cents will look out of place given the age of tetris. 01:23 * telek went the LEGO route, just in time for them to get rid of the old 12V system and replace it with 'wireless' trains so they could cut out the metal costs (and probably slightly increase the safety). 01:23 RealBadAngel theres a price already on the machine :) 01:24 VanessaE fix it. :-) 01:24 RealBadAngel easy to say, there are lotsa textures 01:24 telek RBA: Do they double as a throwing weapon? :D 01:24 RealBadAngel lol 01:25 RealBadAngel rotfl, with item pickup its almost impossible to throw 5cents away 01:26 telek They're so big they get immediately registered as an item to pick up? 01:27 bulletrulz hellos 01:27 RealBadAngel hi 01:28 bulletrulz sup 01:29 RealBadAngel play tetris :) 01:29 RealBadAngel bulletrulz, http://realbadangel.pl/arcade.png 01:30 RealBadAngel https://github.com/obneq/tetris/ 01:30 bulletrulz lol 01:30 bulletrulz :D 01:31 RealBadAngel its actually playable already 01:31 RealBadAngel jin_xi, ive added coins to github 01:32 bulletrulz nice if u could upload it to a non https site i can dl it 01:33 RealBadAngel hold on 01:37 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/tetris.zip 01:38 RealBadAngel theres no craft recipe, use creative 01:38 RealBadAngel or giveme tetris:arcade 02:32 babyface1031 hi everyone 02:34 RealBadAngel hi 02:34 babyface1031 is there a mod that rotates a node or some how to make lights turn on and off to make it look like the ligh tis rotating around like a light house 02:39 Doc22 OldCoder i have been here a while 02:39 Doc22 can i be mod on 30004 02:40 Doc22 OldCoder? 02:40 OldCoder Hi 02:40 OldCoder Maybe 02:40 OldCoder Busy ATM 02:40 babyface1031 Doc he could be resting 02:40 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7bKqu6ZPbc 02:40 babyface1031 or busy lol 02:42 Doc22 ok 03:01 RealBadAngel celeron55, hi, you wake up pretty early 03:31 OldCoder celeron55, Hi 03:31 OldCoder I am working actually 03:31 OldCoder ^ Doc22 babyface1031 03:31 OldCoder It's an odd year 03:31 Doc22 ya 03:31 Doc22 hrmmm 03:31 babyface1031 hi 03:31 OldCoder I can chat now 03:31 Doc22 ok 03:31 OldCoder Until I fall asleep 03:31 Doc22 so can you make me mod 03:32 babyface1031 dic why you need to be mod 03:32 telek Old people like him fall asleep at random though, so don't expect many or any replies :D 03:32 OldCoder We'll talk about it. I think we'll let Octupus and babyface1031 debate. 03:32 OldCoder telek, actually check my blog 03:32 OldCoder Most days 03:32 OldCoder I've been waking up before 6:00am 03:32 OldCoder The other night it was 11:30pm 03:32 Doc22 ok 03:32 OldCoder Is that early enough? :p 03:32 Doc22 im just wondering 03:32 telek OC: That was mostly a jest :D 03:33 OldCoder Doc22, I think I'll defer to Octupus and babyface1031 03:33 OldCoder telek, that is fine 03:33 Doc22 all right 03:33 OldCoder telek, I knew it was. But I'll explain that I'm more literal than most. 03:33 babyface1031 i will talk to oct next time i see him but i think he went to MC 03:33 OldCoder babyface1031, There is no rush 03:33 telek Somebody recompile OldCoder without the -pedantic flag :D 03:33 OldCoder babyface1031, we can talk in PM 03:33 OldCoder telek, Heh 03:33 babyface1031 ok 03:33 OldCoder telek, It is regrettably not an option. I am a prior release. 03:34 telek There's no doubt a COBOL programmer around here somewhere to fix you :D 03:38 OldCoder telek, COBOL was before my time 03:38 OldCoder But we did sell a COBOL related product 03:38 OldCoder Doc22, PM me if you wish 03:38 OldCoder Regarding changes 03:38 Doc22 ok 03:39 telek OldCoder: That sounds credible enough then :D I think anybody older enough to work on cobol is one and a half feet in the grave anyway :D 03:39 telek s/older/old/ 03:41 OldCoder All right 03:59 VanessaE fwiw, my husband used to code in COBOL. 03:59 VanessaE (back on the System/36) 04:02 * telek whistles. 04:03 * telek hasn't coded on anything older than a C64. 04:03 VanessaE I started on a T/S1000 then moved to the C64. 04:03 telek That wasn't a downgrade? 04:04 VanessaE definitely not. 04:04 RealBadAngel sounds pretty like T1000, are you from Skynet? 04:05 VanessaE heh 04:08 RealBadAngel off to work, cya later 04:08 telek VanessaE: OH Timex Sinclair :D 04:08 * telek waves! 04:08 VanessaE yeah 04:08 VanessaE you know, the PoS that was basically a ZX-81 with an extra 1k of RAM :-) 04:09 Doc22 lol 04:09 Doc22 bye gtg 04:09 RealBadAngel latest Z80 based computer had 512kb of ram 04:09 RealBadAngel Sam Coupe 04:10 VanessaE let's see celeron55 and co. make Minetest work on that thing :D 04:10 VanessaE RealBadAngel: when last assembled at full capacity, my C128 had 32MB. :-) 04:15 telek Heh. 04:15 telek I think the C128 could almost :D 04:15 telek Bet it'd be SLOWWWW though :D 04:16 VanessaE from experience, with an accelerator you could probably get 10fps or so out of a C128 at 160x200 color. not too shabby really. 04:16 telek Slowest I think you could hypothetically pull off would be a late-model 486 with a PCI bus. 04:17 telek Oh speaking of: Has anyone considered possible optimization areas where using OpenCL might improve performance? 04:32 OldCoder 512KB RAM Whoa! 04:32 OldCoder Huge! 04:32 VanessaE no clue, telek 04:33 VanessaE but given that C++ is supposed to be about as close to the hardware as you can get without resorting to assembly, I tend to doubt it. 04:33 telek VanessaE: OpenCL allows utilizing either GPU or cpu resources :) 04:35 telek So potentially certain bits of parallelizable(sp) code could be offloaded to the gpu instead of the cpu. 04:39 VanessaE ah 04:39 VanessaE didn' 04:39 VanessaE didn't think about it from that perspective. 04:42 telek Lotta people don't :) For newer hardware though it's got a huge potential to speed things up, even on low-end cards. 04:44 OldCoder Who 04:44 OldCoder Whoa 04:44 OldCoder VanessaE, C++ is not very close to the hardware 04:45 VanessaE I've heard it claimed that it is. 04:45 OldCoder All types of junk happen under the service 04:45 OldCoder *surface 04:45 OldCoder *C* is close to the hardware 04:45 VanessaE as close as you get fgor a high-level language that is 04:45 OldCoder C++ is not C 04:45 VanessaE for* 04:45 OldCoder Nope 04:45 OldCoder FORTRAN and C are close to the hardware 04:45 VanessaE *shrug* 04:45 OldCoder *shrug* back :p 04:45 VanessaE I prefer to stick to other languages anyway 04:45 OldCoder Many languages are good 04:45 OldCoder For different things 04:45 OldCoder <--- likes languages 04:46 OldCoder So many of them these days. Most are not contenders for MT though. 04:47 telek Indeed. 04:48 VanessaE aw screw it. rewrite MT in bash ;) 04:48 telek With mods now MT is only taking up ~128 megs on my server and a similiar amount on my client. 04:48 telek I would love to see that. 04:48 telek Just not play it :D 05:02 VanessaE bbl 05:06 * telek waves! 05:47 bulletrulz USAB IS SPLINTING TO 2 05:48 OldCoder splinting? 05:48 * OldCoder imagines a broken bone 05:48 OldCoder VanessaE, Don't kid. M13 will try that! 05:49 OldCoder aw screw it. rewrite MT in bash ;) 05:49 OldCoder :-) 05:56 telek Oh another one I haven't seen mentioned in a while: Has anyone done work on 'infinitely flowing water', so it'll keep flowing until it fills lower areas (at least as far as blocks are generated/loaded)? 06:08 telek When you reach the edge of the map in minetest, is it an impenetrable barrier, wraparound, or 'endless pit'? 06:10 ruskie *yawn* 06:10 * bulletrulz pours water on ruskie 06:10 bulletrulz wake UP! 06:10 * telek pours vodka on ruskie. 06:13 * bulletrulz hits telek HES TRYING TO QUIT DUMBASS 06:14 bulletrulz LOL 06:15 telek Well if he can't stand being doused in it without falling back off the wagon, how's he going to survive socializing :S 06:16 ruskie rofl 06:16 telek :) 06:17 ruskie bulletrulz, considering I woke up 30+minutes ago.. and it's now 07:17... 06:17 ruskie had to drive myself to work in between that time as well 06:17 ruskie I am rather awake 06:17 ruskie just not liking it much 06:20 telek :( 06:20 telek Is the DM the only 'destructive' mob in either stock or the animals_modpack? 06:26 * bulletrulz shoots a guy and says i was in fear of my life 06:27 telek Go watch the latest Ep of Grimm and tell me that's a good idea :D 06:28 bulletrulz lol 06:29 * bulletrulz pulls out his macchette and kills 4 people what I WAS IN FEAR OF MY LIFE 07:46 bulletrulz NIGHT 08:52 OldCoder I am asleep 08:52 OldCoder Zzz 12:24 celeron55 to the discussion of... umm... 04:00 UTC: 12:24 celeron55 C++ is pretty much as close to hardware as you can get, while being able to use the amount of abstraction it does 12:25 celeron55 (one of the simple proofs of that is that C is mostly valid C++) 12:26 celeron55 oh, and i have a related link 12:26 celeron55 http://blog.rfw.name/2012/11/12/brainfuck_with_templates.html 12:26 celeron55 turns out you can turn brainfuck into perfectly optimized native code with C++ templates 12:26 celeron55 let's use that as the second proof 12:28 * celeron55 is taking in objections 12:31 Lumpio- Didn't one of the newer versions of C++ have user defined literals 12:31 Lumpio- So you could have like "+++[>++"_brainfuck or whatever instead of '+', '+', '+' etc 12:31 celeron55 there's a comment about it in there 12:31 celeron55 so yes 12:32 Lumpio- aww .__. 12:55 sfan5 hello 13:24 OdnetninI OldCoder, give me build priv in server 30002, I prefer to remake my map 13:24 OdnetninI I'm goint to improve it 13:24 Taoki http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=52114#p52114 13:26 OdnetninI OldCoder? 13:31 jin_xi Taoki: cool 13:31 Taoki Thanks 14:47 OdnetninI can anyone give me privs in server minetest.org:30002 14:47 OdnetninI ? 14:55 mrtux ask oldcoder 14:55 mrtux he is away right now though 14:57 OdnetninI he isn't here now 14:57 mrtux he is away right now though 14:58 OdnetninI Oldcoder? 15:17 OdnetninI OldCoder, ? 15:45 Jordach hello all 15:45 * Jordach pokes VanessaE 15:48 Jordach Taoki - good lord! it works! 15:48 Taoki Jordach: Guess what I'm working on in Blender now? :) 15:48 Taoki Will post a screenshot soon 15:48 Jordach hey PilzAdam 15:48 Taoki hi 15:49 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 15:50 Calinou hai 15:50 jin_xi Hi Adam 15:50 * Calinou removed windows and installed xubuntu 15:50 Calinou :D 15:50 PilzAdam yay 15:50 Calinou still setting things up 15:51 * Jordach suspects Calinou goes to school and is a similar age to Jordach 15:51 ruskie lol 15:51 Calinou no u 15:51 * Jordach goes to sixth form which ends at 2pm 15:51 ruskie hmm I think I'll swap the distro @work somewhere near the end of the year shouldn't take more than a couple of hours 15:52 Calinou installin' nvidia driver 15:53 Calinou yeah we know linus torvalds. 15:53 * Calinou uses a desktop, no optimus here 16:01 Calinou there 16:05 Jordach MC 1.4.4: bugfixes 16:08 Jordach lol, shit luinux box 16:08 Calinou xfce window compositing eats my gpu too... disabled it 16:08 Calinou no u Jordach 16:19 babyface1031 RealBadAngel can you name mythril chest yet? 16:20 ruskie babyface1031, they won't be nameable... they'll be special purpose... you'll be able to set one and assign it to a group and all of them will have the same content no matter where they are 16:20 babyface1031 oh 16:21 babyface1031 oh is the nameing only work on gold 16:21 ruskie gold and silver iirc 16:21 babyface1031 ok 16:31 OldCoder Hello 16:31 OldCoder Hmm. What did odnet* want? 16:32 OldCoder I slept late today 16:32 OldCoder But, then, I went to sleep about 7 hours ago 16:32 OldCoder Build privs coming 16:57 Doc22 Hey Oldcoder 16:58 OldCoder Doc22, Hi 16:58 Doc22 the teleport thing works for me 16:58 OldCoder Glad to hear it 16:58 Doc22 like /teleport x, y, z 16:58 Doc22 or /teleport player 16:58 Doc22 but not /teleport player1 player2 16:59 Doc22 do you know what is wrong? 16:59 Doc22 babyface typed the same thing as me 16:59 Doc22 and it worked 16:59 Doc22 it tells me "invalid parameters or player name incorrect" 17:00 Doc22 any ideas? 17:01 OldCoder Reading 17:01 OldCoder Doc22, I wonder if player to player TP is a different level of priv 17:01 Doc22 thats what i think 17:01 OldCoder That is possible 17:02 OldCoder Simple enough to check 17:02 OldCoder I'll ask others with different privs or review the source code 17:02 Doc22 ok 17:02 OldCoder BTW Today continues to be distracting for me. But I'll be here in chat except for one major errand. 17:03 Doc22 ok 17:07 * ruskie starts making a lot of gravel 17:14 Doc22 oldcoder could my minetest be out of date 17:14 OldCoder Client? 17:14 Doc22 its 0,4,3 17:14 Doc22 0.4.3 17:14 OldCoder Probably not 17:14 Doc22 hmmm 17:14 OldCoder It *is* out of date 17:14 Doc22 idk what causes it 17:14 OldCoder For some servers 17:14 OldCoder But not mine 17:14 Doc22 ok 17:14 OldCoder I think 17:14 Doc22 im on 30004 17:16 OldCoder TP issue? Probably privs 17:16 OldCoder Not sure yet 17:22 Doc22 babyface says it isnt 17:23 babyface1031 i would think it would work the other way too 17:25 telek Yeah 0.4.3 is version 10 protocol AFAIK and -dev is currently at 12 or 13 17:25 babyface1031 he can do /teleport Doc babyface1031a but not /teleport babfyace1031a Doc 17:26 Calinou you need bring priv to do that 17:28 ruskie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M9Sc8zhoBQ&feature=youtube_gdata <-- it is MC but still nice 17:28 babyface1031 ok ty 17:30 Octupus hello 17:31 OldCoder Welcome back 17:32 OldCoder babyface1031, PM 17:32 Octupus im sick again *cough couch* 17:33 OldCoder If it is the flu this may persist a week 17:33 Octupus might not go tomorrow eithre 17:37 NakedFury OldCoder did you find what was the problem with the mods not letting you mine under 1000 y? 17:38 telek Is playerheight hardcoded, or would it be possible to make playerheight only 1 block instead of 2 (or larger even?) 17:39 OldCoder NakedFury, I've done no significant work on MT for about a week. My involvement continues but there are events elsewhere that I will need to focus on for a bit. 17:39 Octupus that is coded in c++ telek 17:39 Octupus but yes it can be possible 17:39 telek But it'd mean adding a new lua hook, correct? 17:39 Octupus O 17:39 Octupus that is not possible in lua 17:40 Octupus nvm it does 17:40 telek Linkie? 17:40 Octupus it is possible in lua because 2 ppl can shown that 17:41 telek Also, it is possible to add new fields to the 'playerfile' via lua? 17:41 Octupus not sure 17:41 Octupus ask PilzAda 17:41 telek PilzAdam: When you've got a minute! 17:42 PilzAdam you can change the player height 17:42 telek PilzAdam: Any idea about pushing new fields into the playerfile? 17:43 PilzAdam hmmmmmmmmm 17:43 PilzAdam sotring variables in the player object (like in Lua entities) is not possible 17:44 telek Ahh okay. 17:44 PilzAdam you can create new files 17:44 PilzAdam and store some tables with all players and their values in it 17:44 * telek nods. 17:44 PilzAdam i did something like this in my beds mod 17:45 telek Guess I'll have to look there then. 17:45 telek Is it possible via script to make a player not take damage and/or mute audio? 17:45 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/beds/blob/master/init.lua#L147 17:46 PilzAdam you can modify the settings in minetest.conf via minetest.setting_set() but this will be saved for all worlds 17:47 telek I'm already using seperate conf files with bootscripts :) 17:47 telek Also fyi: valgrind+minetest is fail. 17:48 telek A number of settings outright cause minetest to fail, and a few others cause sanity test crashes on startup (some x/11 list) 17:49 telek Also I'm not sure if it's the animal mod or something else, but it's possible to get the server into a race condition where it'll peg the cpu and proceed to eat up all memory before segfaulting. 17:52 Octupus OldCoder,you got a minute 17:52 OldCoder Octupus, Yes. PM. 17:54 OldCoder I will return in about 15 minutes 17:55 Octupus adios 17:56 telek Is there an official place to get the minetest_game profile? I noticed it's not coming with the git version, but a lot of mods require it now. (I copied it manually out of a 0.4.3 archive, but I don't know if there's a newer version.) 17:56 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game 17:56 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest 17:56 Calinou game and engine respectively 17:56 Calinou clone minetest_game in the "games" folder of the minetest engine 17:57 telek Calinou Ahh thanks! 17:57 Calinou np 18:01 ruskie there... long railway line setup... 18:01 ruskie I think I've used over 500 gravel and over 500 rail tracks 18:02 telek Nice. 18:02 telek How's that new 3d mining cart you can sit in coming? 18:06 ruskie iirc RealBadAngel was working on that and I've ridden in it on his test server 18:06 ruskie which is why I started laying this on europe 18:19 telek ruskie: Awesome. 18:19 telek Oh right. Is there an easy way to check if a chunk is currently loaded and/or intentionally load a chunk via script? 18:27 thexyz rtfm 18:27 thexyz - get_node(pos) 18:27 thexyz ^ Returns {name="ignore", ...} for unloaded area 18:28 telek thexyz: So then you can't intentionally load a chunk? 18:28 thexyz yep 18:30 telek Why are there both get_node and get_node_or_nil? Don't they basically return the same thing just in incompatible ways? 18:38 telek I've got an odd one for you: I set the visual range all the way down to 0. However a bunch of chunks way off in the distance are staying loaded (ones in front of them as well as around them aren't) Any idea why? 18:51 Octupus Hi 18:53 babyface1031 hi 18:53 OdnetninI OldCoder, can you give me build privss in server 30002? 18:53 ruskie well the whole railway is now either surrounded by cobble or terrain and has torches all along 18:54 ruskie OdnetninI, I believe he already did 18:54 OdnetninI I don't have 18:54 OldCoder OdnetninI, I did 18:54 OldCoder OdnetninI, reenter and try now 18:54 OdnetninI ok 18:54 OldCoder I am here for several hours if anybody needs anything 18:54 OldCoder I have suspended work on builds but I hope to resume next week 18:55 OdnetninI Minetest.net, is down no? 18:55 OldCoder Checking 18:55 OldCoder Hmm 18:56 OldCoder Yes 18:56 OldCoder Anybody else there? 18:56 OldCoder We should mirror the forums 18:57 Octupus shud be easy to do 18:57 Octupus just copy the source 18:57 Octupus it shud already have all the topics and such 18:58 OdnetninI Bye 18:58 OdnetninI I have, thanks OldCoder 18:59 Octupus OldCoder,do u mean to make our own minetest forums? 19:00 OldCoder Octupus, not yet 19:00 OldCoder The official ones are fine 19:00 OldCoder What I am thinking... 19:00 OldCoder Is to set up mirrors that kick in if minetest.net goes down 19:00 OldCoder Simply to make the main site more robust 19:00 Octupus O 19:00 OldCoder And better able to withstand problems 19:00 Octupus thts a great idea 19:00 ruskie would need to setup redundancy 19:00 OldCoder ruskie, Correct 19:00 OldCoder No rush for this 19:01 OldCoder But it is part of making the community grow 19:01 OldCoder Forums can use MySQL servers with redundancy 19:01 OldCoder Then any VPS can access them 19:01 OldCoder That should work 19:12 PilzAdam gtg; bye 19:20 thexyz why is minetest.net down? 19:24 Octupus thexyz,god only knows 19:24 thexyz celeron55: why is minetest.net down? 19:24 thexyz Octupus: i' 19:24 thexyz 've asked him 19:25 Octupus Lolz 19:27 OldCoder And God Said Let There Be Test 19:27 OldCoder Of Mines 19:33 Octupus :D 19:35 OldCoder And on the Seventh Day He granted Op 19:35 OldCoder To Adam in world 30000 on eden.god 19:35 Octupus who's adam? 19:35 OldCoder The first Tester 19:36 OldCoder Husband of Lilith and Eve 19:36 Octupus O yea 19:36 Octupus i thought u were talking about a player 19:36 Octupus :) 19:36 OldCoder But he was 19:36 OldCoder He are all Players 19:36 OldCoder We are all Players * 19:36 Octupus he was the first man to be created 19:36 OldCoder Who mine for treasure 19:36 OldCoder That is the story yes 19:37 Octupus and god make him from dirt 19:37 OldCoder Call it Earth 19:37 OldCoder But yes 19:37 OldCoder Clay 19:37 Octupus and when he was sleeping god made a female named eve :) 19:41 OldCoder Yes 19:41 OldCoder A helpmate 19:41 OldCoder They mined together 19:41 OldCoder And found many ores 19:41 OldCoder And it was good 19:42 OldCoder Thus was the first Minetest World formed 19:43 Octupus :) 19:44 ruskie hehe 19:45 ruskie hmm I'll have to make some waterways to get to the actual ocean... only have an inland sea next to me :( 19:47 Octupus Anyone got ideas for my mod? 19:47 ruskie what is it? 19:48 Octupus Octublocks 19:48 Octupus got about 32 blocks on it but no1 appriciates it :l 19:48 ruskie well I don't really use anything like the materials you provide for any build so far 19:49 Octupus k 19:50 ruskie hmm got lucky and found almost an inventory full of clay lumps 19:52 Octupus i think i going to discontinue octublocks 19:54 ruskie why 19:54 ruskie just keep it as is... 19:54 Octupus Because i have more than 32 blocks and no cares about it :l 19:55 ruskie people discover things slowly 19:55 ruskie they won't just all at once jump on the new blocks 19:55 Octupus well i got a new idea 19:55 OdnetninI it's posible in lua, make a chest with objects inside? 19:56 OdnetninI ? 19:59 Octupus im making a new mod 19:59 OdnetninI great 19:59 OdnetninI , do you now how to make a chest with inside objects in lua? 20:00 OldCoder http://minetest.net/ seems to be back 20:01 OdnetninI OldCoder, do you know how to make it? 20:02 OldCoder Reviewing 20:03 OldCoder OdnetninI, I know how to build and run servers; I can also patch crashes in Lua mods and am learning the other issues. I know only a little about the game internals however. 20:03 OldCoder I intend to learn 20:03 OldCoder I'm committed to this project now 20:05 Octupus I was going to make another electircity mod but that is a bit to complicated 20:05 OdnetninI Yes 20:06 ruskie Octupus, why not just help out RBA with technic? 20:06 OdnetninI Octopus, you can add electrycity plus irc 20:06 OdnetninI it could be fantastic 20:06 Octupus i shoot ideas and ask if i cud help but i think he doesnt need it :) 20:08 OdnetninI Octopus, do you know how to make chest with objects inside it? 20:09 Octupus no 20:09 Octupus but u cud add an extra few lines to make some objects spawn into a newly crafted chest 20:10 OdnetninI how 20:10 Octupus edit some code 20:10 OdnetninI I can create another type of chest, with this 20:10 ruskie might look at how skyblock does it 20:10 ruskie iirc that produces a reward inside a chest or something 20:13 Octupus its a chest with a different textrue 20:14 Octupus Not very hard to replicate 20:19 Octupus_ i need help from a pro coder 20:20 OldCoder Hmm? 20:20 OldCoder You rang? :p 20:20 OldCoder Ah 20:20 OldCoder I need to learn MT internals first 20:22 Octupus_ :) 20:22 Octupus_ OldCoder,if some1 is banned can u use there work? 20:24 OldCoder Hmm 20:24 OldCoder Yes and no 20:24 OldCoder Not if the license prohibits it 20:24 OldCoder But most material is 20:25 OldCoder Under a public license 20:25 OldCoder So when cornernote left we could use his mods 20:25 OldCoder But I removed a copy of his website 20:25 OldCoder When he requested this of me 20:25 OldCoder The short answer is yes unless there is a license issue 20:25 Octupus_ O 20:25 Octupus_ He has a Gpl license 20:25 OldCoder You may proceed 20:26 OldCoder GPL is a license 20:26 OldCoder That permits use 20:26 OldCoder GPL = General Public License 20:26 OldCoder Public 20:26 OldCoder Use it 20:26 ruskie most open source licenses permit use... it's distribution that they limit and integrating it with other things 20:26 OldCoder Yes 20:26 OldCoder It varies 20:26 OldCoder MIT/X BSD WTFPL 20:26 Octupus_ i only trying to make a mving entity 20:26 OldCoder are all very open 20:26 OldCoder Use the code for now 20:27 OldCoder I prefer Creative Commons which can be quite open 20:27 OldCoder It depends 20:27 OldCoder Octupus_, what will the GPL code be mixed with 20:27 OldCoder Sometimes GPL dislikes other licenses 20:27 OldCoder They fight 20:27 OldCoder The licenses battle 20:27 Octupus_ only texture and code 20:30 Octupus_ gtg get a nap dont feel to well :( 20:49 celeron55 minetest.net down? doesn't seem like so 20:51 OldCoder celeron55, See update; it came back 20:51 OldCoder Problem was probably for 15 minutes or so 20:51 * OldCoder shrugs 20:51 OldCoder Outages are normal 20:51 OldCoder Redundancy will help in the future 20:52 celeron55 i can see a break in apache's log from 18:30 to 19:58 UTC 20:52 OldCoder Hmm; 90 minutes? 20:53 OldCoder All right 20:53 celeron55 no idea what the cause is though 20:54 Jordach unix brainfart 20:54 * OldCoder shrugs 20:54 Jordach thats the cause 20:55 Jordach this http://xkcd.com/869/ 20:55 OldCoder celeron55, can do an end run around it. Redundant database and front end 20:55 OldCoder Sometime in the future 20:58 Jordach hey Muadtralk 20:58 Muadtralk hello 20:59 Jordach i've dissapeared almost permanently from the forums 20:59 Muadtralk cool 20:59 Jordach i've just got bored of minetest 20:59 Muadtralk ignoring the post you made today? 20:59 Jordach sometimes i just give up now, i want content. 21:00 Jordach not a barely working mod with little content 21:00 NakedFury have you seen all that was added for mc 1.4? 21:00 Jordach yes 21:00 Jordach i have 1.4.4 21:00 Jordach i even ported my textures 21:00 Jordach (64dots) 21:00 NakedFury lots of new stuff 21:01 Jordach i made a preset (flatland) just to make a underwater city 21:03 NakedFury sucks how they havent added natural support for 32x and up textures 21:03 Jordach actually therye making their own renderer 21:03 Jordach so it supports any res 21:06 Jordach anyways, night all 21:06 * Jordach pokes both OldCoder and VanessaE with a stick 21:07 OldCoder Night 21:07 RealBadAngel hi all 21:10 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hi! 21:12 RealBadAngel howdy? 21:13 OldCoder Indeed 21:13 RealBadAngel im just for a moment, had a very long day, were away from 5am till 10pm 21:13 OldCoder Rest then 21:13 RealBadAngel just came to say hello 21:15 RealBadAngel can see jordach becomes another person bored by things not going well in minetest 21:15 OldCoder Things are going well 21:15 OldCoder In general 21:16 RealBadAngel better, indeed 21:16 RealBadAngel but in general not fast 21:16 OldCoder Life sometimes takes twists and turns 21:16 OldCoder People must be patient if it is generally forward 21:16 RealBadAngel i know 21:16 RealBadAngel patience comes with age in general 21:17 RealBadAngel not all minetesters already have such virtue 21:17 RealBadAngel younger gets bored sooner 21:18 * OldCoder shrugs 21:18 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Is it your responsibility to entertain? 21:18 OldCoder Or to instruct and to proceed as you see fit? 21:18 OldCoder The answer is the latter 21:18 OldCoder Proceed as you know is right 21:18 OldCoder Let the rest go 21:19 OldCoder The goals are yours 21:19 OldCoder To enjoy the process and to build what you wish to build 21:19 OldCoder An impressive framework and worlds that come from it 21:19 OldCoder You are an artist 21:19 OldCoder Therefore, let there be art! 21:19 OldCoder :-) 21:20 RealBadAngel nah, im not an artist 21:20 RealBadAngel i just do what i like 21:21 RealBadAngel sadly i dont have much time for it lately 21:23 OldCoder RealBadAngel, It is fine 21:23 OldCoder RealBadAngel, It is part of your life and not the whole 21:23 OldCoder Life is about balancing and integrating different parts 21:24 RealBadAngel like today it took a bit too much 21:24 RealBadAngel 15hrs at work made me just deadly tired 21:24 OldCoder Then 21:24 OldCoder Rest 21:24 OldCoder Music, videos 21:24 OldCoder Reading 21:24 OldCoder Pour a glass of wine 21:24 OldCoder Relax, read 21:24 RealBadAngel just sleep 21:25 OldCoder Sleep is good 21:25 OldCoder Relax for 10 minutes first 21:25 OldCoder Shift your frame of mind 21:25 RealBadAngel in 7 hrs i need to wake up 21:25 RealBadAngel and go to work again 21:26 OldCoder Then best sleep now 21:26 OldCoder Without delay 21:26 RealBadAngel shit, in 6 in fact :) 21:26 OldCoder Good night 21:26 OldCoder Away! 21:26 OldCoder :-) 21:26 RealBadAngel heheh 21:26 OldCoder c u 21:26 RealBadAngel not so fast, got a half of beer 21:27 OldCoder So 21:27 OldCoder Relax after all 21:27 OldCoder Beer is Here 21:27 OldCoder Beer is Not to Fear 21:27 RealBadAngel i do 21:27 OldCoder Beer is Near and Dear 21:27 OldCoder Beer has no Peer 21:27 RealBadAngel and makes you sleep my Dear 21:28 RealBadAngel hehehe 21:29 OldCoder Indeed 21:29 OldCoder Beer is Shear 21:29 OldCoder Delight 21:29 OldCoder ! 21:29 * OldCoder has not had a beer for months 21:29 OldCoder *Sheer 21:29 OldCoder Damn typos 21:29 RealBadAngel after work? best solution to sleep in no time 21:30 OldCoder As you wish 21:30 OldCoder But 21:30 OldCoder You said there is half a beer 21:30 RealBadAngel one fourth 21:30 OldCoder And by now perhaps 1/8 21:30 RealBadAngel i do actualy drinki it 21:32 RealBadAngel wonder just what night shift will make again with my machine 21:33 RealBadAngel theyre just genios when it comes to break it 21:33 OldCoder Life is half expectation and curiosity 21:33 OldCoder Wait and see 21:34 RealBadAngel its a machine to make PVC granules 21:35 RealBadAngel you put therere some bags, folies and get granules 21:35 RealBadAngel last night they threw in a bottle 21:37 RealBadAngel PET material needs circa 80celsius degrees more to melt 21:37 RealBadAngel they jammed the machine 21:38 RealBadAngel with one single PET bottle they caused losses of circa 2 tones of product 21:39 RealBadAngel not counting new head, knives, filters, etc 21:40 OldCoder Doc22, iqualfragile wb 21:41 Doc22 thanks 21:41 iqualfragile hi oldcoder 21:41 Doc22 hai 21:41 RealBadAngel hi 21:41 Doc22 hello 21:41 RealBadAngel beer is gone, bed is yellin at me 21:41 Doc22 are the forums up yet? 21:41 Doc22 lol 21:41 RealBadAngel cya tommorow 21:42 Doc22 cya 21:42 Doc22 oh yeah they are 21:45 OldCoder RealBadAngel, good night 22:05 Doc22 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3741 22:05 Doc22 my new mod 22:05 Doc22 chains mod 22:05 GloopMaster cool 22:05 Doc22 thanks 22:06 GloopMaster hello Uberi 22:06 Doc22 hola 22:07 Uberi hey 22:07 Uberi OldCoder: I found the issue btw 22:07 Uberi the we saves themselves are incomplete 22:19 OldCoder Uberi, we saves? or wemsaves ? 22:19 OldCoder //savemeta does wem 22:19 Doc22 putting modpack.txt in a mod folder means it will load mods from subfolders right 22:19 OldCoder If wem is part of this it is good news 22:19 OldCoder Doc22, yes IIRC 22:19 Doc22 and it has to be empty 22:19 Doc22 ok 22:20 Uberi OldCoder: both, as far as I can tell 22:21 Uberi the missing chunks you describe are missing from the files themselves 22:21 OldCoder Uberi, this is good news. Any changes will be well tested 22:22 Uberi hmm, OldCoder? 22:22 OldCoder Yes? 22:23 Uberi I'm not sure I understood you 22:23 OldCoder If you make any fixes 22:23 OldCoder The fixes will be tested 22:23 Taoki Important announcement: The models branch now has animated 3D players, with animations for standing walking (4 animations for forward, backward, left and right) as well as punching / mining. Also, it's fully compatible with MineCraft skins, so you can use your favorite player customization from MC! Next we need someone good with lua to make the functions for using animations accordingly. 22:23 Taoki http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=52146#p52146 22:23 OldCoder Hmm 22:23 OldCoder R 22:24 OldCoder Impressive 22:24 Taoki Thanks 22:25 Taoki Not sure if the arms and legs bending this way looks really ok though. As if they're bent too much, they also tend to shrink 22:25 Uberi good job Taoki! 22:25 Taoki thanks :) 22:26 OldCoder Taoki, Refinements can be done over time 22:26 Taoki yeah 22:26 OldCoder Don't be concerned about minor issues 22:26 OldCoder It's a major step 22:26 Taoki http://i50.tinypic.com/35kvrro.png More screenshots in the topic (this is the default MineCraft skin but I'm only using it for testing locally) 22:28 OldCoder Taoki, I assume higher resolution skins will be possible 22:28 OldCoder In time if not immediately 22:28 Taoki OldCoder: Normally yes, they should 22:28 Taoki But the same areas of the texture are used as in MC 22:28 Taoki Most surely should be however 22:28 OldCoder k 22:33 VanessaE Taoki: see my post on the related forum thread :-) 22:33 VanessaE (and yes, the bent arms/knees is good as long as the movement looks good - got a youtube video of it in action?) 22:33 VanessaE also hi/ 22:35 OldCoder http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/circus_cat.gif 22:35 OldCoder ^ Funny 22:36 VanessaE cute 22:36 Octupus Hi 22:38 Taoki Seen, thanks 22:38 telek Taoki: Is it a static mesh definition or can you replace the meshes via scripting? 22:38 Taoki telek: Everything is set via scripting 22:38 telek Sweet. 22:38 VanessaE c55 will like that 22:38 Taoki Only the code to apply meshes with Irrlicht is hard-coded 22:38 Taoki :) 22:38 telek How dynamic is it? 22:38 VanessaE he did say he wanted it to be possible to easily make models that don't look like MC 22:39 telek IE can you change meshes in the server dir, force an update, and have the changes propagate to the clients? 22:41 Taoki telek: Yes. If the server has a mesh the file is streamed to clients. lua script decides when meshes are applied for anything 22:41 telek Weird. 22:42 telek I assumed it was somewhat fixed after initialization, since I was getting texture corruption with the player skins a while back (without mods it was occasionally replacing the player texture with flower textures from the nature(?) mod) 22:42 Taoki Why? That's all intended and good 22:42 telek Erm default player skin 22:42 Taoki ah 22:43 telek Well neat then. 22:44 telek Oh I was asking the other day: Has anyone used sproxel, and figured out how close the csv export is to the format minetest uses? 22:55 VanessaE bbl 22:56 * telek waves! 23:10 NakedFury just saw the 3d announcement 23:10 NakedFury good news and awesome too 23:15 telek Quite. 23:23 Octupus Hi M13 23:24 M13 hey 23:31 Octupus M13,PM please 23:31 M13 ok 23:44 Octupus i look like spiderman woot 23:47 Octupus Hi Doc 23:48 Doc22 hey 23:49 Doc22 i posted mah mod 23:49 Doc22 here it is: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3741 23:50 telek Doc22: Nice. 23:50 Doc22 thanks 23:53 Octupus Great 23:53 Doc22 thanks octu 23:53 telek Also: Which mod added all those draping vines? 23:53 Octupus mp :) 23:53 Doc22 wanna play with me on a server 23:53 Doc22 it was vines od 23:53 Doc22 mod 23:53 Doc22 lemme look it up 23:53 telek The ones hanging off trees and everything else? 23:54 Doc22 http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=minetest%20vines%20mod&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fminetest.net%2Fforum%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fid%3D2344&ei=FS-kUPasHomuqQH674HoBQ&usg=AFQjCNE4P3xQ2HzvlJbrXApcTsM1TMw2TA 23:54 Octupus if u want it on the server ask OC 23:54 Doc22 here ya go 23:54 Doc22 is that it? 23:54 telek Because the old vines mod is the one that used to go up in the air. 23:54 Doc22 hmmm 23:54 Doc22 im not familiar 23:54 Doc22 i just joined about a month ago 23:54 Doc22 lol 23:54 Doc22 octu 23:54 Doc22 and telec 23:54 Doc22 telek * 23:55 Doc22 wanna come on my server 23:55 Doc22 i can add mods 23:55 Doc22 tell me what mods you like to play with