Time Nick Message 00:00 OldCoder Doc_, It sounds good! 00:00 cornernote im at 0,-1,000,000,0 00:00 OldCoder Doc_, You get interact everywhere but be patient 00:00 Doc_ yeah 00:00 Doc_ whoah 00:00 Doc_ thats low 00:00 Doc_ what are you just holding shift 00:00 Doc_ in free move 00:00 cornernote no, there is no floor at this depth 00:00 cornernote you just fall 00:00 Doc_ ohhhhhhh 00:01 Doc_ how deep does the stone generate 00:01 cornernote mapgen stops working at about -31k 00:01 Doc_ ok 00:01 cornernote 31k in any direction 00:01 Doc_ its like the void in minecraft :D 00:01 Doc_ but it doesnt kill u 00:01 cornernote just thinking.... 00:01 cornernote i think it should reset 00:01 Doc_ lol 00:01 Doc_ if you get below 31000 00:01 cornernote eg, if you walk to 31k, you should appear at -31k 00:02 Doc_ yeah that would be a good mod 00:02 * Doc_ winks 00:02 cornernote is it an exact line where it ends ? 00:02 cornernote sec... teleporting 00:02 Doc_ idk 00:05 cornernote ends at x = 30927 00:05 Doc_ hrmmmmmm 00:05 cornernote can someone confirm that on another world/server ? 00:05 Doc_ sure... 00:05 cornernote do /teleport 30927,0,0 00:06 cornernote and -30912 at the other end 00:06 Doc_ ok 00:07 cornernote problem with a mod is, if you walk off 1 end, you will kind of "teleport" to the other end 00:07 cornernote so it wont feel like infinite 00:07 Doc_ yup 00:07 Doc_ 30927 00:08 cornernote ok great... and its the same for both X and Z 00:08 Doc_ and 30912 00:08 Doc_ on other 00:08 cornernote -30912 00:08 cornernote ok, sweet 00:09 Doc_ yus 00:09 Doc_ wait no 00:09 Doc_ its schweet 00:09 Doc_ :3 00:09 cornernote :) 00:09 Doc_ :D 00:09 Doc_ haha funny 00:09 Doc_ shutting down stuff 00:09 Doc_ idk why that is funny to me 00:09 Doc_ im crazu 00:09 Doc_ crazy 00:10 cornernote not sure how to make the join seem seamless 00:10 Doc_ it wouldnt matter 00:10 Doc_ it would be an interesting feature 00:10 Doc_ sure it wouldnt be perfect 00:10 Doc_ but it would be interesting... 00:11 cornernote ideally the engine would join it... so 30927 joins to -30912 the same as 1 joins to 2 00:11 Doc_ yeah but it doesnt work that way 00:11 Doc_ unless you reversed the x and y world 00:11 Doc_ and tiled it on 00:11 Doc_ similar to how you create seamless textures 00:11 cornernote you dont reverse it 00:12 Kacey lets do it 00:12 cornernote its the same direction, just starts over 00:12 cornernote but then what about entities ? 00:12 Doc_ im saying thats how you can do it 00:12 Doc_ hrmmmmm 00:12 Doc_ i dont believe i see a problem 00:12 cornernote eg, a player who is standing at 30927 should be able to see a player standing at -30912 00:12 Doc_ with entities... 00:12 Doc_ yeah 00:12 cornernote after all, they are 1 block away from each other 00:13 Octupus Does any1 think blue and red go good together? 00:13 Doc_ you could just add an if(player is at edge) render entities on other side 00:13 cornernote the engine has to be changed to reset the pos somehow 00:13 Doc_ yeah 00:13 Doc_ why 00:13 Kacey only on top of cars octu 00:13 Octupus SHUSH 00:14 Doc_ just say if(player.locationx<-30912) change player.locationx to 30927 00:14 cornernote yeah, but thats dodgey 00:14 Doc_ and if(player is close to edge) render chunks 00:14 cornernote its just a teleport 00:14 Doc_ yeah i guess 00:14 Doc_ i see how that would work... 00:14 Kacey celeron55 i am thankful that you made the best game ever 00:14 cornernote render chunks... but they are only a copy of the chunks 00:14 cornernote what if another player is digging them 00:14 Doc_ yeah 00:15 cornernote or, how about a TNT on the edge 00:15 cornernote it needs to be seamless 00:15 Doc_ this is a big problem 00:15 Doc_ solution = pencil+paper+thinking 00:15 Doc_ at least for me 00:16 Kacey solution 00:16 Kacey make the world finite in the shape of a donut 00:16 Doc_ how about taking out the chunks near the edge buffers for the next world 00:16 Doc_ taking them out and making them buffers* 00:16 Doc_ lol 00:17 Doc_ so the last x chunks are mirrors of the next world 00:17 Doc_ and when the person is in the edge 00:18 Doc_ then prepare to be able to move to the other side 00:18 Doc_ ie load entities on other side 00:18 Doc_ and then decide when to change the players location 00:19 Doc_ even if this isnt a good solution 00:19 Doc_ thinking out loud causes other ideas 00:19 Doc_ and then a solution is formed 00:19 Doc_ right? 00:21 hmmmm [19:12] eg, a player who is standing at 30927 should be able to see a player standing at -30912 00:21 hmmmm easier said than done 00:21 hmmmm seriously. 00:24 Octupus NOOOOOOO 00:24 OldCoder ? 00:24 cornernote hmmmm, yeah i know its not simple 00:25 Octupus um there has been a little unfortunate problem with your present 00:25 OldCoder Me? PM 00:25 cornernote i was just saying that because i dont think teleporting from one end to the other is a nice solition to an infinite worls 00:25 Doc_ yeah 00:25 Doc_ use the last X chunks as a buffer 00:26 cornernote the mirror idea is probably the best, but far from simple, and cant be done without hacking the c++ 00:26 Doc_ yah i guess 00:26 cornernote and mirroring entities will be hard 00:26 Doc_ maybey you could make a special portal block at the edge of the map that has a special effect 00:26 Doc_ maybe* 00:27 cornernote at what height ? 00:27 cornernote if its at 0 it may be underground 00:27 cornernote if you make a whole wall, it will block the sky 00:27 Doc_ how about making all the ground rise to a certain point 00:27 cornernote so it has to be invisible, or transparent 00:27 Doc_ and putting the portal on top 00:27 Doc_ one sec 00:27 Doc_ ima make a screenshot 00:28 Octupus Yes OldCoder,your present 00:28 OldCoder k 00:28 OldCoder PM 00:28 Octupus i saved most of it though 00:29 Doc_ i noticed that as soon as you go off the edge of the map it gets laggy 00:30 Octupus I didnt know lava burnt wool :l 00:32 Octupus that wasnt very fun :l 00:34 Doc_ ok putting screeny into paing 00:34 Doc_ paint 00:34 Octupus use gimp Doc_ 00:36 NekoGloop MEOW 00:36 NekoGloop :D 00:36 Doc_ i use paint for small things 00:36 Doc_ lol 00:36 Doc_ and paintshop (for 19$) for big things 00:36 Doc_ i got it on amazon 00:37 Doc_ i couldnt get gimp to work on one of my pcs 00:37 Doc_ so i just bought this 00:37 Doc_ so why not use it when i have it 00:37 NekoGloop Use Game Maker's paint program :P 00:37 Octupus WOOT i fixed it 00:37 VanessaE bbl 00:37 Octupus bye 00:37 Octupus Hi Kacey 00:39 Doc_ i dont use game maker 00:39 Doc_ lol here it is http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p524/dangerdoc44/portal.png (crappy isnt it :P) 00:40 Doc_ my idea is that the portal (stone) will be above the max height 00:40 Octupus how do i send a world with mods? 00:40 Doc_ this wall goes around the edge of the map 00:40 Octupus like a adven map? 00:40 Doc_ and the portal warps you to the other side of the map 00:40 Doc_ there is my idea 00:40 cornernote Doc, maybe 00:40 Doc_ that would be mod compatible though 00:41 Octupus cornernote,how do i send mods with an adventure map 00:41 Doc_ is what im saying 00:41 cornernote i'll keep it in mind.. its about the best solution, but not as i want it 00:41 Doc_ yeah i understand 00:41 cornernote Octupos - put mods in [worldpath]/worldmods/ 00:41 cornernote then zip up [worldpath] 00:41 Octupus so i need to make a folder 00:41 cornernote yep 00:41 Octupus called worldpath 00:42 cornernote [worldpath] -will be [path_share]/worlds or [path_user]/worlds depending on your installation. 00:42 Octupus so 00:42 cornernote [path_share] - used for run-in-place installations (windows default). 00:42 Octupus worldpath folder 00:42 cornernote [path_user] - used for system-wide installations (linux default). 00:42 Octupus then worldmods folder in worldpath 00:42 Octupus like that cornernote 00:43 cornernote i never done it, this is from the docs 00:43 Octupus alright 00:43 Octupus il use regular torch 00:43 cornernote i think like this... 00:43 Octupus maybe some lava 00:43 Octupus but i need to be careful with it this time :l 00:43 Doc_ i think ill make my first mod now 00:43 cornernote if you have worlds/yourworld, try putting it worlds/yourworld/worldmods 00:44 Doc_ =D 00:44 Octupus what mod Doc 00:44 cornernote or worlds/worldmods 00:44 Doc_ idk probably something like camoflauge block 00:44 Doc_ or hidden door 00:44 Doc_ or something 00:44 Octupus OH ik 00:44 Octupus worldmods 00:44 Doc_ what 00:44 Octupus then the mods inside of that folder 00:44 cornernote yea 00:44 Octupus thanks corner 00:45 NekoGloop Meow. 00:45 NekoGloop :34 00:45 Octupus Rawr 00:45 cornernote no, theres a better way 00:45 OldCoder NekoGloop, kitty are you hungry? 00:45 NekoGloop anyone know what player's version means? 00:45 cornernote you can put the whole GAME into the world 00:45 NekoGloop OldCoder: :3 00:45 cornernote [worldname]/game/ [worldname]/game/mods/ 00:46 cornernote then you can put ALL the mods there... even default mods 00:46 cornernote It is possible to include a game in a world; in this case, no mods or games are loaded or checked from anywhere else. 00:46 cornernote more info here - http://api.minetest.net/page/view/view/paths 00:47 Octupus ok 00:47 * OldCoder cannot get to the story for fresh chicken ATM. Dry food is out of the question. He considers. It must be canned but it shall be canned tuna and not cat food. He puts down a plate with tuna on it. 00:47 OldCoder *store 00:47 cornernote ewwwwwww 00:47 OldCoder But actually 00:47 OldCoder It works both ways 00:48 cornernote please, you are going to make me vomit talking about eating all that shit 00:48 OldCoder All right 00:48 cornernote try a banana 00:48 OldCoder You have my apologies 00:48 OldCoder For a cat? 00:48 OldCoder cornernote, cats do not eat bananas 00:48 cornernote ok, you are feeding your cat, not yourself 00:48 cornernote ok, fine 00:48 OldCoder yep 00:48 OldCoder very well 00:48 cornernote not so bad then 00:48 OldCoder Cats do not make good vegans 00:48 OldCoder You can ask them to try 00:48 OldCoder But they are dubious 00:48 OldCoder "Meow, if it is all the same I want fish" 00:49 Lumpio- nyaa 00:51 NekoGloop nyaa~! ^w^ 00:51 * NekoGloop eats the tuna :3 00:51 cornernote http://www.vegepet.com/vegetarian_cats.html ? =) 00:52 * OldCoder laughs 00:52 OldCoder We will try that another time 00:52 cornernote sure you will 00:52 * NekoGloop hisses 00:52 * OldCoder is literal 00:52 NekoGloop me no want veggies! D: 00:53 cornernote personally, im not really into making carnivores into vegans 00:53 NekoGloop cornernote: you do realise that he means me? 00:53 cornernote i have dogs, i feed them meat 00:53 Lumpio- Why is it naughty to not eat your peas but hip and cool to not eat your beef 00:53 cornernote OC, but if you do try it, let me know how it goes 00:53 OldCoder cornernote, I have no live pets 00:53 OldCoder Only virtual ones 00:53 NekoGloop like the half-cat, me. :3 00:53 OldCoder My IRL cats are long cat 00:53 cornernote because peas are good for you, beef is bad for you, the planet, and the animal that had to be killed in a cruel way, just for your taste 00:53 OldCoder You can see their photos soon 00:54 OldCoder *long gone 00:54 Lumpio- I don't think a bolt into the brain is cruel 00:54 Lumpio- It's more humane than the way many humans die 00:54 cornernote mind if i put a bold into your mothers brain ? 00:54 NekoGloop cornernote: personally I'd kill the animals myself to eat. 00:54 cornernote *bolt 00:54 Lumpio- After spending a long time in a hospital in terminal care, in constant pain 00:54 OldCoder This is fine but be neutral 00:55 NekoGloop cornernote: btw. you probably need to edit your player file to save yourself from the long fall. 00:55 cornernote NekoGloop, killing yourself is better than factory farming, but still seems like unnessicary cruelty 00:55 Lumpio- cornernote: No, because my mother is more beneficial to everything when she's alive 00:55 Lumpio- wtf do cows to 00:55 Lumpio- Eat and shit 00:55 OldCoder Muadtralk, hi 00:55 cornernote you do know we BREED cows .. eg, we keep making more and more of them... right ? 00:56 Lumpio- If they really didn't want to be killed they should fight back 00:56 Lumpio- Develop a culture or something 00:56 OldCoder Cowmageddon 00:56 cornernote they are more beneficial not being here.. because then they wont pollute our land and water 00:56 OldCoder Hmm; good story maybe 00:56 Lumpio- Oh right, they eat, shit and fuck 00:56 Muadtralk why can i never get to even try the lunarrepublic server 00:56 cornernote so why grow them ? 00:56 Lumpio- (Or well, I guess artificial insemination is more popular these days but it's close enough) 00:56 Lumpio- cornernote: Because beef is BEEFLICIOUS 00:56 NekoGloop Muadtralk: because their server computer is shit. 00:56 Muadtralk ahhhhhhhhhh 00:56 cornernote ok, good point... so its all about the taste ? 00:57 Lumpio- Yes 00:57 Lumpio- I wouldn't want beef if it tasted bad. 00:57 Muadtralk like my computer? 00:57 NekoGloop funny thing is that I'm a mod there from making a spawn house... :D 00:57 cornernote if you dont care about your health, the environemt, all the starving people in the world, etc... and you care a lot about taste, then i guess you should keep eating meat 00:57 Muadtralk haha 00:57 Muadtralk nice 00:57 Doc_ YEHAAAA 00:57 Muadtralk I only want to join because of the mlp reference in the name 00:58 Doc_ Writing lua in wordpad ftw 00:58 NekoGloop cornernote: meat is only unhealthy if the animal was sick. 00:58 Octupus OldCoder,be ready for a dload soon 00:58 Lumpio- Pills are for health, the government can take care of the environment, and what comes to starving people... we're already overpopulated 00:58 Lumpio- Just nature restoring balance. 00:58 cornernote Meat today is more murderous than tobacco. CO2, methane and nitris oxide from the livestock industry are killing our oceans like acidic dead-zones. 90% of small fish are ground up into small pellets to feed to livestock. Vegetarian cows are today's largest ocean predators. By 2048 all our fisheries will be dead. The lungs and arteries of the earth. 00:59 cornernote Only 100 billion people have ever lived. 7 billion of them live today. And yet we torture and kill 2 billion sentient beings every week. 00:59 Lumpio- Also I love how I can get all my minerals and vitamins and whatnot from meat 00:59 cornernote 10,000 species are wiped out every year, because of the actions of one species. If any other species did this a biologist would call it a virus. 00:59 Lumpio- If you're all vegan you'll have to be really careful to get everything you need 00:59 cornernote Are you a Virus Lumpio ? 00:59 Lumpio- Cows do that for us. 00:59 cornernote What is it that I need that I have to be careful about ? 00:59 Kacey how did we get on this topic? 01:00 OldCoder Hm? 01:00 NekoGloop Kacey: feeding a cat. 01:00 OldCoder Octupus, k 01:00 cornernote how about all the people with heart disease... seems they werent careful about how much cow they ate lol 01:00 OldCoder Kacey, it is fine within limits 01:00 cornernote Today 1 billion people are hungry and 20 million people will die from malnutrition. 01:00 cornernote Cutting meat by only 10% will feed 100 million people. 01:00 Octupus it very touching OldCoder 01:00 OldCoder Octupus, all right 01:00 cornernote If everyone on the planet eats meat the way our country does, we will need two earths to sustain it. We only have one, and she is dieing. 01:00 Doc_ what is the name for leafs 01:00 Doc_ default:xxxxx 01:00 Lumpio- But then the 3rd world people will just keep on reproducing 01:00 Kacey can we just put an end to it and say bacon 01:00 Doc_ lol 01:00 Lumpio- There's too many of them as it is! 01:00 cornernote Poor countries sell their grain to the western countries while their children starve in their arms. And the western countries feed it to livestock! So we can eat a steak? Every morsal of meat we eat is a slap to the tear stained face of a starving child. 01:01 OldCoder Kacey, they wish a brief say 01:01 OldCoder Kacey, we spent time on you and gcc earlier 01:01 OldCoder Remember? 01:01 cornernote sure you can just say bacon,, but it means you are laughing at all the starving children in the world 01:01 cornernote ha-ha, funny, look at that starving child 01:01 OldCoder There are limits but civil expression of views seems all right briefly 01:01 Lumpio- cornernote, stop copy-pasting from a script 01:01 NekoGloop I've never seen cornernote act like this. 01:02 cornernote no 01:02 OldCoder Lumpio-, No; he feels strongly about this 01:02 Kacey true but my computer is freaking out from all the posts O.o 01:02 Doc_ as long as we arent all cussing eachother out or slamming someone 01:02 cornernote Lumpino - dont tell me what to do 01:02 OldCoder Doc_, ++ 01:02 Lumpio- No, I mean he's literally copy and pasting which is kind of unfair 01:02 Doc_ ++? 01:02 Lumpio- I'm doing this on the fly 01:02 cornernote STOP EATING FUCKING MEAT 01:02 cornernote lol 01:02 OldCoder Lumpio-, I am not sure he is 01:02 Lumpio- nope 01:02 Lumpio- OldCoder: Nobody types 18 characters per second 01:02 OldCoder I do 01:02 cornernote ok, then dont tell me what to do lol 01:02 Muadtralk cornernote I agree this world is the only one we will ever get the way we are going 01:02 Doc_ you mean the increment operator? 01:02 Doc_ or C++ 01:02 Doc_ lol 01:02 Lumpio- Also he suddenly switches to properly capitalized text 01:03 OldCoder Doc_, I was agreeing 01:03 Lumpio- That's all copy-pasted. 01:03 Doc_ ohhh 01:03 OldCoder cornernote, is it? 01:03 Doc_ ok lol 01:03 Lumpio- OldCoder: No, you don't 01:03 Doc_ new thing learned 01:03 cornernote this video is funny .. a guy goes into McDonalds and shows kids videos of a slaughter house 01:03 cornernote https://sites.google.com/site/cornernote/goveg/mcdonalds-kids-watch-slaughterhouse-videos 01:03 Muadtralk I saw that video! 01:03 OldCoder Lumpio-, I was agreeing in principle with the fact that civil is better than swearing 01:03 cornernote much is copy-pasted, yes 01:03 cornernote but who cares... dopesnt make it less true 01:03 OldCoder cornernote, you are getting a say but would it be all right to wrap it up? 01:03 OldCoder It is fine with me 01:03 Lumpio- OldCoder: 18 characters per second is the current typing speed world record 01:03 Lumpio- I doubt you can do that 01:03 NekoGloop cornernote: I watch that while eating a Southern Style Chicken sandwich. 01:04 OldCoder Lumpio-, I am distracted and have not thought about it 01:04 OldCoder But I am close to whatever the world record is 01:04 OldCoder Or I used to be 01:04 NekoGloop I can do that but not for coherent sentences. 01:04 cornernote NekoGloop, do you watch porn while raping children too ? 01:04 OldCoder cornernote, would PM be all right? 01:04 * cornernote laughs 01:04 Lumpio- I can do about 12 cps before I get a ridiculous error rate 01:04 OldCoder Lumpio-, let me talk to him 01:04 cornernote OC, i dont reject any PM 01:04 OldCoder cornernote, may I ask you something in PM? 01:04 Muadtralk chuck norris can type that fast with his pinkie finger 01:04 NekoGloop For coding in lua, I can type a hell of a lot faster. 01:05 Doc_ lol thats a funny vid cornernote 01:05 NekoGloop Muadtralk: Chuck Norris knows the last digit of pi. 01:05 cornernote you can distract the conversation away from the issues, and start talking about if i am pasting or not 01:05 OldCoder cornernote, may we speak briefly in PM? 01:05 cornernote but thats just clearly a disctraction because you dont want to face the issue 01:05 Lumpio- The issue of beef being absolutely delicious? 01:05 cornernote but thats your choice, thats fine 01:05 Muadtralk i couldnt watch the whole vidoe honestly 01:05 Lumpio- There's a Finnish saying 01:06 Lumpio- That says you can't argue about matters of taste 01:06 Lumpio- Or well, you can, but it's pointless. 01:06 cornernote yeah, the issue that you prefer the taste of beef, than the environment, starving children, etc... pretty selfish if you ask me 01:06 cornernote but your choice 01:06 Lumpio- But the starving people are all like, foreign 01:06 cornernote we all have a choice 01:06 Lumpio- And from weird continents like Africa 01:06 Lumpio- What have they ever contributed to the world 01:06 cornernote yes, and they sold their grain 01:06 NekoGloop much. 01:06 cornernote to so your cowcould eat it 01:06 Lumpio- That's their choice 01:06 cornernote while their children starve 01:06 NekoGloop they have contributed much cultural value as well. 01:06 Lumpio- Free market 01:07 cornernote very sad indeed 01:07 OldCoder cornernote, would it be all right to talk briefly in PM? 01:07 NekoGloop Lumpio-: you sicken me,. 01:07 NekoGloop Not from the taste for meat. 01:07 NekoGloop But rather from your heartlessness. 01:07 Lumpio- But their cultural contributions are like 01:08 Lumpio- "let me play you the song of my people" 01:08 Lumpio- tier 01:08 cornernote The Taste Argument: 01:08 cornernote "I love the way meat tastes. I wont deprive myself of this. Therefore, I should be able to eat meat." 01:08 cornernote Objection 1: This argument allows us to eat humans: That is, it leaves open the possibility that a person can say, "I love the way human meat tastes. There's nothing that tastes quite like a human!" This principle (something's tasting good) is not something that one would want to be true in general and is something that does not justify the current treatment of animals - this principle 01:08 cornernote could be an argument to eat anything and treat the being/thing (i.e., eatee) as badly as you like. 01:08 cornernote Objection 2: Think about what it would sound like to argue as follows: "I like the way it sounds, when someone asks you why you're hitting infants on the head with a hammer. There's nothing quite like that sound, and I really like it (and maybe add tradition in here), so I don't see why I should give it up." Or, "I just like the way it smells when I put human flesh to flames!" Or, "I just 01:08 cornernote like to see human flesh burning!" One who makes this argument leaves open the possibility that any sensation that brings pleasure (whether or not that sensation has been cultivated from tradition) is something that it's OK to enjoy, no matter what it takes, costs, entails to enjoy it! "My life is more pleasant with slaves." 01:09 NekoGloop tl;dr. 01:09 Lumpio- Yeah but humans have much more to offer than cows 01:09 Lumpio- Cows are dumb 01:09 cornernote so go do whatever it is you think tastes good 01:09 Lumpio- They don't have culture 01:09 Lumpio- They don't even have a society 01:09 NekoGloop Lumpio-: air is dumb. 01:09 cornernote how do you know? 01:09 NekoGloop water is dumb. 01:09 Lumpio- All they do, literally, is eat and defecate! 01:09 Lumpio- NekoGloop: Yeah, but without them we'd be dead 01:09 Octupus Hi LAD 01:09 Lumpio- cornernote: Are you trying to argue cows are telepathic? 01:09 cornernote without what ? 01:10 Lumpio- Without air and water 01:10 LAD het Octu 01:10 NekoGloop Lumpio-: think about it this way. 01:10 LAD has he told u yet 01:10 NekoGloop You cant understand a japanese person talking without knowing japanese. 01:10 NekoGloop So you cant understand a cow speaking without knowing their language. 01:11 Lumpio- So they're telepathic? 01:11 GTRsdk Use Google Translate :D 01:11 Lumpio- Or what 01:11 NekoGloop no, not telepathic 01:11 NekoGloop is a japanese person telepathic? 01:11 cornernote are you saying that non-english speaking beings cannot have tradition or spciety ? 01:11 cornernote lol 01:12 cornernote Lumpio, you didnt really think that through, did you ? 01:12 NekoGloop "moo" could mean many things to them. 01:12 Lumpio- Yeah 01:12 Lumpio- Like 01:12 cornernote how about this.... 01:12 Lumpio- "I'm about to eat some grass" or "I'm about to take a dump" 01:12 Lumpio- That's probably the limit of their vocabulary, if there is one 01:12 NekoGloop ... 01:12 cornernote to get milk, a cow is made pregnant... then shortly after birth is taken away from them 01:13 cornernote have you heard a cow scream for its baby ? 01:13 cornernote probably not, you just buy milk from the store 01:13 Lumpio- Also no, I'm pretty sure Japanese people speak a language just like everybody else 01:13 NekoGloop Lumpio-: so do cows. Just not something you understand. 01:13 Lumpio- Well it's OK, it'll probably forget the baby in like two minutes or so 01:13 Lumpio- Or how many seconds did their memory last again? 01:13 OldCoder Cows miss friends 01:13 cornernote Lumpio, you'll probably just forget your mother after i put a bolt through her head too 01:13 OldCoder cornernote 01:14 cornernote you seem to have the inteligence of a cow 01:14 OldCoder PM please 01:14 Lumpio- If they really wanted us to understand them, they ought to be making more of an effort tbh 01:14 Lumpio- They're being like women 01:14 NekoGloop Lumpio-: perhaps they dont want us to know. 01:14 Lumpio- "I don't want to tell you what's wrong; I want you to know what's wrong!" 01:15 Lumpio- If cows are really intelligent, they're hiding it very well 01:15 NekoGloop Lumpio-: just as we cant understand them, they cant understand us. 01:15 NekoGloop Think, you idiot. 01:15 Lumpio- eh 01:15 Lumpio- Cows and humans have been around each other for eons 01:16 cornernote Lumpio , lets say they are not intelligent 01:16 Lumpio- The fact that we can't communicate with them only goes to prove that either party is incapable of high-level thinking 01:16 cornernote do you think they can feel pain ? 01:16 Lumpio- And I'm pretty sure I know which party that is 01:16 NekoGloop you can live with a japanese person your whole life and never learn a lick of japanese. 01:16 cornernote do you think they can feel pain ? ? 01:16 NekoGloop cornernote: of course. 01:17 Lumpio- Yeah, but what if your entire family lives with a group of Japanese people for 10000 years 01:17 Lumpio- Your children will pick it up automagically 01:17 NekoGloop Lumpio-: no. 01:17 Lumpio- cornernote: Sure they can 01:17 NekoGloop your logic has none. 01:17 Lumpio- Luckily that bolt is probably less painful than natural death 01:17 NekoGloop Also, please locate Lumpio-/Feelings.dll 01:17 Lumpio- Unsupported binary format 01:18 Doc_ is there a page for the types of groups for blocks 01:18 Lumpio- Sorry, but I run Linux. 01:18 Doc_ like snappy 01:18 Doc_ choppy 01:18 Doc_ etc 01:18 NekoGloop The file has been moved/renamed. 01:18 Doc_ dang 01:18 NekoGloop Lumpio-: but the world runs its own os. 01:18 NekoGloop Doc_: ? 01:18 Lumpio- Written in Lisp? 01:18 Doc_ can you tell me what they are though 01:18 Doc_ i mean for the blocks 01:18 Doc_ where you say 01:18 NekoGloop Doc_: easy. 01:18 Doc_ groups = {cracky=2, etc} 01:18 NekoGloop snappy == diggable by sword. 01:18 Doc_ k 01:18 NekoGloop cracky == diggable by pick 01:18 Lumpio- cornernote: I'm all for giving other beings painless deaths you know 01:19 Doc_ k 01:19 NekoGloop choppy == diggable by shovel 01:19 Doc_ k 01:19 Lumpio- I find ritual slaughterings like they do in some religions disgusting 01:19 NekoGloop no.. 01:19 NekoGloop choppy == diggable by axe 01:19 cornernote Lumpio, painless murder ? 01:19 Doc_ k 01:19 NekoGloop crumbly == diggable by shovel 01:19 cornernote Lumpio, just educate yourself a little bit about what goes on inside a slaughterhouse 01:19 NekoGloop fleshy == NPC or player 01:20 Doc_ oddlydigable by hand (i know that lol) 01:20 Doc_ thanks Nekogloop 01:20 cornernote we should all watch this... its how cows are killed without pain - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlnNAwLJkBc 01:20 cornernote i didnt make it up, its not a holloywood thriller, its just the food we eat 01:21 GTRsdk stunning? 01:21 cornernote box 01:21 NekoGloop so we should watch porn because it's "how babies are made" 01:21 * NekoGloop runs from spam pings. 01:21 cornernote no, porn is fake 01:21 GTRsdk actually, it isn't, NekoGloop 01:21 cornernote its actors 01:21 GTRsdk ^ 01:21 cornernote this is real, no actors 01:22 cornernote watch how much it bleeds they they slice ths throat open 01:22 cornernote the heart has to be beating, otherwise the meat will be all bloody 01:22 cornernote and nobody wants bloody meat 01:22 Lumpio- Nice generalization 01:22 cornernote you want it all nice and cooked and clean 01:22 Lumpio- There are some slaughterhouses that do it wrong !== everybody does it wrong 01:22 Octupus porn is 2 ppl having sex infront ofa camera for money :) 01:22 cornernote and use knifes and forkes so you dont have to touch it 01:23 Lumpio- er 01:23 cornernote this isnt wrong, this is how its done 01:23 NekoGloop cornernote: screw silverware. 01:23 cornernote there it goes: 2:40 01:23 Lumpio- I think putting something in your mouth is above touching 01:23 cornernote blood gushing out all over the place 01:23 Lumpio- Yeah? So 01:23 Lumpio- If they did it right, the cow is braindead at this point. 01:24 Lumpio- It doesn't think (if it ever did) nor feel anything. 01:24 NekoGloop cows think 01:24 cornernote yes, like your mother would be 01:24 NekoGloop that is a fact. 01:24 cornernote after the bolt 01:24 Lumpio- Exactly. The bolt renders the animal braindead 01:24 Lumpio- Saving it from the pain 01:24 NekoGloop Lumpio-: you are a heartless son of a bitch 01:25 OldCoder NekoGloop, heartless is valid; the rest is unnecessayr 01:25 Lumpio- Since when have men been prosecuted for liking a good ol' burger 01:26 NekoGloop I'm not. 01:26 NekoGloop the simple fact that you dont care at all. 01:26 Lumpio- Oh I care 01:26 Lumpio- I'd care for a cheeseburger right now as a matter of fact 01:26 NekoGloop 01:27 cornernote Lumpio, you really are cold 01:27 cornernote you would probably put the bold through your own mothers brain if you liked the taste of her flesh 01:28 Lumpio- No 01:28 Lumpio- Humans make contributions to society 01:28 Lumpio- What do cows contribute 01:28 Lumpio- Apart from evolution they haven't really gone anywhere 01:28 NekoGloop they make the grass in fields not be skyhigh? 01:28 cornernote Humans are killing the earth 01:28 cornernote like a virus 01:29 NekoGloop Humans are a virus. 01:29 Lumpio- cornernote: Maybe you should get rid of that virus then 01:29 Lumpio- Oh, you too 01:29 Lumpio- Start with yourselves, please 01:29 Lumpio- Set an example 01:29 NekoGloop I'd love to eat you... 01:29 Lumpio- No you wouldn't 01:29 cornernote i am getting rid of it... i am trying to leave a smaller footprint on the earth 01:29 NekoGloop Yes I would. 01:30 cornernote 50,000 liters of water can produce 1kg beef 01:30 Lumpio- With my fat content it'd be many times more unhealthy than some beef 01:30 Lumpio- cornernote: How much Coke can it produce? 01:30 Lumpio- I love Coke with beef 01:30 NekoGloop It's much more satisfying if you squirm too! 01:31 Lumpio- I'd still like cornernote to respond to my contribution thing 01:31 cornernote i love the coke while i hear the sound of your mother screaming while i hold the bolt gun to her head... but you don't hear me going on about it 01:31 Lumpio- Instead of falling back on preaching the old "humans are a virus" 01:32 cornernote Lumpio - how have humans contributed ? 01:32 Lumpio- Humans have make freaking lasers 01:32 Lumpio- What have cows done 01:32 cornernote other than fucking the panet ? 01:32 cornernote how do lazers contribute ? 01:32 NekoGloop Lumpio-: if everything living that doesnt give us something for your so-called society, then let's kill every lower class citizen on the planet. 01:32 Lumpio- Humans are /sending laboratories to other planets/ 01:32 NekoGloop Including you. 01:32 Lumpio- And what did the cows do while we did that? 01:32 Lumpio- Eat and shit 01:32 cornernote how does that contribute to this planet ? 01:33 cornernote im really missing your point L 01:33 Lumpio- NekoGloop: Oh but lower class citizens do contribute 01:33 NekoGloop no they dont. 01:33 Lumpio- Perhaps not intellectually but they make it possible for the rest of us 01:33 NekoGloop not to your so-called society. 01:33 NekoGloop I was including you in lower class citizen. 01:33 Lumpio- Somebody needs to take out the trash and scrub my pool 01:33 cornernote you say humans make this planet better... but thats a very relative and closed minded view... in actual fact what you ar asking is "how have cows made this planet better for HUMANS" ? 01:33 Lumpio- Cows can only contribute by, well, dying 01:33 Lumpio- Or milking. 01:34 cornernote you are thinking from a selfish point of view again 01:34 Lumpio- cornernote: All animals only think of themselves. 01:34 Muadtralk anyone wouldnt happen to have a decent shader for kahrls shader thing? 01:34 cornernote not from the perspective of all, or the earth, but from your own selfish eyes 01:34 Muadtralk I am not liking the inversion 01:35 Lumpio- Cows don't even realize there's an earth to begin with 01:35 Lumpio- All they see is food and mates 01:35 NekoGloop Lumpio-: did the cavemen know? 01:35 cornernote ok, but can they feel pain ? 01:35 Lumpio- cornernote: Not after they're braindead 01:35 cornernote cows dont know there is an earth, therefore we should smash in their heads ? 01:35 Lumpio- NekoGloop: Nope, and it's a good thing there was nobody around to kill them 01:36 NekoGloop Lumpio-: with your logic, cavemen should have died. 01:36 Lumpio- cornernote: No, we should smash in their heads so they wouldn't be hurt when we cut out the delicious meat 01:36 NekoGloop So, thus no humans. 01:36 Lumpio- NekoGloop: Yeah, they god lucky 01:36 cornernote in countries that have capital punishment... they dont kill the humans in the same way 01:36 Lumpio- Cows are shit outta luck. 01:36 Lumpio- Should've evolved faster! 01:36 cornernote i wonder why that is... after all, its "humane" right ? 01:36 Octupus Hello Dogzilla131 01:37 Lumpio- cornernote: Well I find capital punishment disgusting in all forms 01:37 Dogzilla131 Hello 01:37 Lumpio- And I guess they don't want to cause any physical trauma 01:37 Lumpio- Would make for an unsightly body 01:37 cornernote here are some quotes from someone who worked in a slaughterhouse 01:37 Muadtralk I support capital punishment 01:37 Lumpio- Here we go again 01:37 Lumpio- Gross generalization time 01:37 cornernote I seen them take those stunners they’re about as long as a yard stick and shove it up the hog’s ass They do it with cows, too And in their ears, their eyes, down their throat They’ll be squealing and they’ll just shove it right down there. 01:38 Lumpio- That's like saying 01:38 Lumpio- "Some cops use excessive force. Let's ban the police" 01:38 cornernote i guess those animals deserve that, for not knowing there is an earth, or speaking english 01:38 cornernote what if it was 90% of police ? 01:38 cornernote then i would probably agree with you 01:38 cornernote how about 80% ? 01:38 NekoGloop Lumpio-: Should you die next, for not knowing japanese, or not inventing the time machine? 01:38 cornernote i'd still say ban police 01:39 Lumpio- But I know Japanese .__. 01:39 NekoGloop fine then 01:39 Octupus why are u guys talking about what they do to animals in a ranch 01:39 Octupus i think every1 shud know that 01:39 Lumpio- And does proving that a time machine is impossible count? 01:39 NekoGloop Octupus: rather a slaughter house? 01:39 cornernote not a ranch, a slaughterhouse 01:39 Octupus yes that 01:39 NekoGloop Lumpio-: no, it is simply beyond you futile humans. 01:39 cornernote it started because of a conversation about pet food 01:39 Lumpio- "you"? 01:39 Octupus EVERY1 eats chicken or cows or pig :l 01:39 Lumpio- wtf are you, Borg? 01:39 NekoGloop no. 01:39 Lumpio- Octupus: yeah, and they're DELICIOUS 01:40 cornernote and Lumpio decided that my beliefs are worth mocking 01:40 Lumpio- hell yeah 01:40 Octupus :D Lumpio 01:40 Lumpio- high five! _o/ 01:40 Lumpio- BACON STRIPS \m/ 01:40 cornernote despite the fact it makes him seem selfish and cruel 01:40 Octupus :l 01:40 NekoGloop Lumpio-: I am the next species. 01:40 Octupus i dont eat alot of big 01:40 Octupus *pig 01:40 cornernote He’ll kick them [hogs], fork them, use anything he can get his hands on. He’s already broken three pitchforks so far this year, just jabbing them. He doesn’t care if he hits its eyes, head, butt. He jabs them so hard he busts the wooden handles. And he clubs them over the back. 01:40 Octupus CHICKEN AND COW 01:40 cornernote igs on the kill floor have come up and nuzzled me like a puppy. Two minutes later I had to kill them – beat them to death with a pipe. 01:41 Octupus o 01:41 Lumpio- awww 01:41 cornernote Maybe you should apply for a job there Lumpio ? 01:41 Lumpio- nah I'll stick to IT 01:41 cornernote you'd fit right in 01:41 Lumpio- I like to leave dirty works like that to the lower class 01:41 Lumpio- That's their contribution 01:41 Lumpio- -s 01:41 Octupus GTG 01:42 Octupus bye guys 01:42 Lumpio- k cya 01:42 NekoGloop the lower class doesnt do that. 01:42 cornernote later 01:42 NekoGloop the middle class does. 01:42 Lumpio- Lower is a relative term 01:42 Lumpio- Lower from my viewpoint 01:42 NekoGloop lower class are the criminals, the homeless, the starving. 01:42 cornernote I’ve drug cows till their bones start breaking, while they were still alive. Bringing them around the corner and they get stuck up in the doorway, just pull them till their hide be ripped, till the blood just drip on the steel and concrete. Breaking their legs.… And the cow be crying with its tongue stuck out. They pull him till his neck just pop. 01:43 cornernote doesnt sound like the "painless" death you were preaching about before Lumpio 01:43 cornernote but yet you still say its ok 01:43 NekoGloop Lumpio-: Lower from you is the dirt you walk on. 01:43 Lumpio- When did I say causing pain to animals was ok 01:43 NekoGloop Actually, that's higher than you. 01:43 cornernote how much should we be able to torture these animals before its not ok any more ? 01:43 Lumpio- Please paste those lines because I don't think I did 01:43 cornernote so you dont think its ok to cause them pain ? 01:43 Lumpio- If slaughterhouses are doing it wrong then it's unfortunate 01:43 cornernote sorry if i misunderstood 01:43 Lumpio- But it's not my job to stop them. 01:44 Lumpio- That's what regulatory bodies are for. 01:44 Lumpio- I'm pretty sure I've been thinking about painless slaughtering to begin with 01:44 Lumpio- Remember, the bolts? 01:44 Lumpio- Brain death? 01:44 cornernote but im pointing out thats not what happens 01:44 Lumpio- Your memory is pretty short. You sure you're not a cow? 01:44 Lumpio- Actually 01:44 cornernote and you point out, thats not your problem 01:44 cornernote eg, you dont care about their pain 01:44 Lumpio- That'd explain everything... 01:44 cornernote you'll eat them anyway 01:44 cornernote right ? 01:44 Lumpio- Yeah 01:45 cornernote or do i misunderstand ? 01:45 Lumpio- It's not like they're going to stop if Lumpio- from Finland starts boycotting them 01:45 cornernote so now you'll jump on the "one person can't make a difference" bus ? 01:45 Lumpio- But I promise 01:45 Lumpio- That I'll stop eating meat when I'm the last one doing that 01:45 Lumpio- Ok? 01:45 NekoGloop So i should eat the rest of them? :D 01:46 cornernote so you think its wrong, you justify it because others do it ? 01:46 cornernote or do i misunderstand again ? 01:46 Lumpio- I'm jumping on the "it's unlikely everybody will stop because there are so many people who really don't care" bus 01:46 Lumpio- I do care, but as long as it happens, I might as well not let it all go to waste 01:46 cornernote are you one of those who doesnt care ? 01:46 Lumpio- At least those cows suffered for a reason 01:47 Lumpio- A... scrumptuous, delicious reason drizzled with cheese! 01:47 cornernote do you know they make more cows, enough to meet demand ? 01:47 Lumpio- Which also comes from cows! double-win! 01:47 Muadtralk anyone? 01:47 cornernote so each kg of meat you eat, means more cows are born, so they can become tortured food 01:47 Muadtralk a shader? 01:47 OldCoder Muadtralk, hi 01:48 Lumpio- cornernote: Do you have any quotes from a Finnish slaughterhouse? 01:48 Lumpio- Maybe yours were from a country where there isn't enough regulation 01:48 Muadtralk anyone a shader to work with kahrls branch? 01:48 cornernote using your argument i could say.... as long as someone else rapes women, i will continue to rape women... thats a really horible thing to say. 01:48 Lumpio- They don't sell imported meat that much in Finland because of the mad cow's disease scare some time ago 01:49 Lumpio- Now I can't say I know for sure what it's like in Finland, hence the question 01:49 Lumpio- I'm not really an expert... except at eating the end product! 01:49 cornernote and then you go on about how good it tastes. (which is akin to saying how good it feels to rape women) 01:50 Lumpio- Yeah but raping a woman will scar her for life 01:50 Lumpio- A cow would probably just like it. 01:50 cornernote not if she is braindead 01:50 OldCoder Maybe other metaphors would be better here 01:50 cornernote OC, got any suggestions ? 01:50 Lumpio- Yeah, but braindeath also kills her contribution 01:50 OldCoder cornernote, maybe you can break soon and help me with my work 01:50 NekoGloop Maybe an end to the conversation would be better. 01:50 cornernote to me, killing an animal is as bad as raping a women 01:50 OldCoder Which has fallen behind because of some of this 01:51 Lumpio- So, do you have any statistics on Finnish slaughterhouses? 01:51 cornernote to others, if you don't like the metephor, read above 01:51 Lumpio- cornernote: So to you, women are equal to cows? 01:51 LAD cornernote did u make the building chest?? 01:51 Lumpio- I'm sure you're very popular with the ladies 01:51 NekoGloop Lumpio- cornernote: SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP. ALREADY. 01:51 cornernote cornernote: So to you, women are equal to cows? <<---- no 01:51 Lumpio- (ﾉ´∀｀*) 01:51 Lumpio- aww 01:51 Lumpio- cornernote: Cows are above women...? 01:51 Lumpio- NekoGloop :3 01:52 cornernote to you, taste is more important than starving children, the environment, and your own health ? 01:52 NekoGloop would you kill your pet cat? 01:52 NekoGloop just to eat it? 01:52 Lumpio- No, because that would make me sad 01:52 cornernote why do you put your own taste before another human life ? 01:52 NekoGloop so why kill a cow? 01:52 Lumpio- Because they're not pets 01:52 NekoGloop you would make its family sad. 01:52 cornernote thats really sad 01:53 NekoGloop We have proven that cows do know their family. 01:53 NekoGloop e.g. from a baby being taken from a mother cow. 01:53 Lumpio- well durh, it's a protective instinct 01:53 cornernote witht he baby cow... if its a male its even sadder 01:53 Lumpio- cornernote: Finnish slaughterhouse, data or no data? 01:53 cornernote it becomes veil at age 4 days 01:53 Lumpio- If no I'm going to sleep, it's like 4am 01:53 NekoGloop Lumpio-: so, if i really wanted to, i could kill your mother and eat her flesh? 01:54 cornernote and before that, they dont want it to use its muscles, or it becomes less tender 01:54 Lumpio- NekoGloop: I've already answered that two times 01:54 Lumpio- Please scroll up 01:54 cornernote they starve it, and tie it down for its short cruel life 01:54 Muadtralk bloody hell! 01:54 Muadtralk just everyone stop! 01:54 NekoGloop Lumpio-: wouldnt the cow feel the same way? 01:54 Lumpio- Annoyed by your repeated questions? 01:55 Lumpio- No, I don't think a cow would understand the concept of "a question" 01:55 Muadtralk how about this you all will die a horrible fate! 01:55 Lumpio- !? 01:55 Muadtralk cows birds humans 01:55 Lumpio- oh noes 01:55 NekoGloop Lumpio-: what if there was a species that fed off humans? 01:55 NekoGloop would you just let it take your family? 01:55 Muadtralk yes he would 01:55 Lumpio- NekoGloop: I'd fight back 01:55 NekoGloop The cow tries. 01:55 Lumpio- At the very least I'd voice my opinion 01:55 Lumpio- I don't see cows doing that 01:56 Lumpio- Well maybe it's just they're not making much of an effort 01:56 NekoGloop It charges. (assuming it has the strength to do so) 01:56 Lumpio- Ergo, they don't care 01:56 Lumpio- Cruel animals. 01:56 NekoGloop Lumpio-: The only cruel animals on planet earth are Homo Sapien. 01:56 OldCoder Muadtralk has a point 01:56 Lumpio- I'm pretty sure they don't charge if they don't feel threatened 01:56 GTRsdk the cow probably doesn't know it is being slaughtered 01:56 OldCoder Lumpio-, NekoGloop, cornernote any chance of calling it night? 01:56 Lumpio- NekoGloop: But cows were supposed to be equal to us... 01:56 Lumpio- GTRsdk: Exactly 01:56 Lumpio- They should be able to figure it out 01:57 OldCoder I wouldn't kick people for casual speech 01:57 Lumpio- "durh, all my friends disappear after going into that house WONDER WAZZUP WITH IT" 01:57 NekoGloop this is beyond casual. 01:57 OldCoder But perhaps a bot that muted 01:57 OldCoder If cow was mentioned 01:57 OldCoder Consensus 01:57 OldCoder Is enough for tonight? 01:57 NekoGloop OldCoder: holy cow. 01:57 NekoGloop :3 01:57 OldCoder Ha 01:57 OldCoder Is enough for tonight? 01:57 OldCoder What is the mute command? 01:57 Lumpio- k 01:57 OldCoder cornernote, ? 01:57 Lumpio- I need to sleep anyways 01:57 OldCoder cornernote, will you help me with my documents? 01:57 OldCoder Lumpio-, good night then 01:58 OldCoder Muadtralk, I probably should have said that sooner 01:58 Lumpio- We shall continue when we have some stats for Finnish slaughterhouses 01:58 OldCoder Please excuse me 01:58 Lumpio- Because that's where my meat comes from 01:58 Lumpio- -> 01:59 cornernote stats of what ? 01:59 cornernote cruelty ? 02:00 cornernote im sure that like most slaughterhouses, they choose not to have CCTV, or to allow media or the public to come look inside 02:00 Doc_ attempt to index global 'default' (a nul value) 02:00 Doc_ i get this error 02:00 cornernote have you been to your local slaughterhouse ? 02:00 Doc_ for this code 02:00 NekoGloop Doc_: mod needs to depend on default 02:00 cornernote why not decide for yourself ? 02:00 Doc_ sounds = default.node_sound_stone_defaults(), 02:00 Doc_ thats the line that throws it... 02:00 cornernote Doc_, you need depends.txt with the word "default" inside it 02:00 Doc_ oh oh 02:00 Doc_ oh ok* 02:00 Doc_ loll 02:00 OldCoder Muadtralk, I regret the noise 02:00 Doc_ thanks 02:01 GTRsdk is mesecons a bit like redstone? 02:01 cornernote yes, a lot like it 02:01 Doc_ it works 02:01 Doc_ testing my first mod 02:02 cornernote http://www.helsinkitimes.fi/news/index.php/finland/finland-news/domestic/571-dispute-continues-over-animal-welfare-on-finnish-pig-farms 02:02 cornernote http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/finland-animal-activists-not-guilty/5345/ 02:02 Doc_ you still talking about it.... 02:02 cornernote http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Animal+rights+activists+who+secretly+filmed+Finnish+pig+farms+two+years+ago+may+now+face+prison+/1135268972734 02:02 cornernote need more Lumpio- ? 02:02 NekoGloop cornernote: SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY. 02:02 cornernote you expect to tell me what to do ? 02:03 cornernote LMAO 02:03 NekoGloop OldCoder: isnt it /quiet ? 02:03 cornernote thats just hypocrisy pushed to the extreme 02:03 Doc_ yay it works 02:03 Muadtralk oldcoder i believe a /kick username is in order 02:03 NekoGloop cornernote: how? 02:04 cornernote how about i tell you not to eat any animal products, if you do that then i will "shut the fuck up" 02:04 cornernote that way we both get what we want 02:04 cornernote deal ? 02:04 Doc_ lol 02:05 OldCoder Hi 02:05 Doc_ hello 02:05 OldCoder Muadtralk, I have spoken to people 02:05 Doc_ testing my first mod 02:05 NekoGloop cornernote: what? 02:05 OldCoder Hopefully it will be quieter now 02:05 OldCoder Muadtralk, I also have a sense of how far things should go 02:05 NekoGloop animal products covers all. 02:05 OldCoder No 02:05 OldCoder More 02:05 OldCoder Animals 02:05 cornernote , kick who, for what ? 02:05 NekoGloop because carbon cycle. 02:05 OldCoder For the moment 02:05 OldCoder No kicks 02:05 OldCoder Mutes I think 02:06 cornernote animal products covers all. <<-- covers all what ? 02:06 Doc_ i made a block 02:06 NekoGloop cornernote: carbon cycle 02:06 cornernote ok, you lost me 02:06 NekoGloop the animals die (naturally), then the plants rise from that. 02:06 Doc_ and set drawmode to glasslike 02:06 NekoGloop Doc_: drawtype, you mean? 02:06 Doc_ when it is placed it is dark 02:06 Doc_ yes 02:06 cornernote yes, but at that point they are not called animal products 02:07 Doc_ what is wrong 02:07 cornernote thats like calling a rock an animal product 02:07 GTRsdk OldCoder: Do you know why some mods run so slow (e.g. animals mod)? 02:07 GTRsdk or make minetest go so slow? 02:07 NekoGloop cornernote: but yet an animal dies to give me the plant. 02:07 OldCoder GTRsdk, Yes 02:07 OldCoder GTRsdk, but my time is about exhausted for the evening. As am I. 02:07 Doc_ here is the code 02:07 Doc_ http://pastebin.com/fem4GhUM 02:08 Doc_ what is wrong 02:08 cornernote , usually its one of 2 callbacks that cause lag... register_on_generated or register_abm 02:08 Doc_ why is it so dark 02:08 Doc_ it is just black 02:08 Doc_ as soon as i change drawtype 02:08 Doc_ to glasslike 02:08 cornernote an animal dies to give you the planet, i dont understand... the planet was here before animals 02:08 Doc_ wait a sec 02:09 NekoGloop cornernote: not planet. 02:09 NekoGloop plant. 02:09 Doc_ ill try removing sunlight-propogates 02:09 cornernote you are saying animals were on the planet before plants ? 02:09 Doc_ lol? 02:09 NekoGloop I'm saying that you are being an idiot. 02:09 cornernote i disagree, i think the plant gave rise to the animal, but who knows... and what does that matter ? 02:09 NekoGloop all are allowed to believe what they like 02:09 Doc_ why cant you both quit talking 02:09 Dogzilla131 hey whats harder to find diamond or mese 02:09 Doc_ neither of you are going to give in 02:09 cornernote i just think that if something feels pain, you shouldnt inflict pain onto it without a good reason 02:10 NekoGloop but pushing their beliefs on others is something i cant stand. 02:10 cornernote and i dont think taste is a good reason 02:10 NekoGloop Dogzilla131: diamonds. 02:10 Doc_ so you need to just do what you believe and let others do the same 02:10 cornernote im not trying to push my beliefs 02:10 NekoGloop Assuming MC to MT comparison. 02:10 NekoGloop cornernote: yes you are. 02:10 cornernote im defending them from those who were attacking my beliefs 02:10 NekoGloop You keep telling us to stop eating meat. 02:10 Doc_ ok well lets all SHUT UP 02:10 Doc_ and forget it 02:10 NekoGloop Doc_: you arent getting my point either. 02:10 Doc_ i am 02:11 cornernote if someone was in here talking about how they dont like rape, and people started saying how much they like rape, and they do it all the time... i think the person who didnt like rape is entitled to defend their view 02:11 Doc_ you dont want him to tell you not to eat meat 02:11 Doc_ yes i see your point cornernote 02:11 NekoGloop People are free to talk; but forcing others to think otherwise is unnacceptable. 02:11 cornernote im not telling anyone not to eat meat 02:11 Doc_ but eating meat is normal in society 02:11 NekoGloop cornernote: yes you are. 02:11 cornernote until he told me to shut the fuck up 02:11 Doc_ rape is not 02:11 cornernote where did i say it Gloop ? 02:12 NekoGloop cornernote: [21:04] how about i tell you not to eat any animal products, if you do that then i will "shut the fuck up" 02:12 Doc_ ever heard of a joke? O_d 02:12 NekoGloop ever heard of listening to the person with the higher IQ? 02:12 Doc_ (assuming that is what it is) 02:12 cornernote im not telling anyone not to eat meat 02:12 Doc_ i have 132 02:12 Doc_ first time i took it 02:12 cornernote until he told me to shut the fuck up 02:12 OldCoder ChanServ won't load here 02:12 NekoGloop < 184 02:12 OldCoder Anybody know why? 02:12 Doc_ on iqquiz.com 02:12 Doc_ lol 02:13 Doc_ nuh uh 02:13 cornernote so, how about you dont tell me what to do, and i wont tell you what to do ? 02:13 Doc_ 184 i dont believe 02:13 NekoGloop Doc_: low age + high intelligence = high IQ 02:13 Doc_ hmmmm 02:14 Doc_ im 14 02:14 Doc_ you are? 02:14 NekoGloop not telling. 02:14 Doc_ lol ur 50 but you put in 3 as your age 02:14 NekoGloop do i seem like I'm 50? 02:14 Doc_ jk 02:14 NekoGloop do i seem, at all, like O 02:14 NekoGloop I'm 50? 02:14 NekoGloop (damn enter key) 02:15 Doc_ lolz 02:15 NekoGloop I should texture the dusts from technic... 02:15 Doc_ return-happy pinky 02:15 NekoGloop tried to press "'" 02:15 NekoGloop hit enter. 02:15 Doc_ can someone help me 02:15 Doc_ http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p524/dangerdoc44/block.png 02:15 Doc_ why is it doing this 02:15 GTRsdk lol this place is active 02:16 Doc_ heres my code 02:16 Doc_ http://pastebin.com/7KpKpXx2 02:16 OldCoder VanessaE, here? Any idea why chanserv won't load? 02:16 NekoGloop GTRsdk: just because Doc_ and cornernote not shutting up. 02:16 OldCoder NekoGloop, see above 02:16 Doc_ i was shut up for a while... 02:16 NekoGloop Doc_: is the image in the folder like this? 02:17 Doc_ yes 02:17 cornernote Because NG is being a hypocrite 02:17 Doc_ wait 02:17 Doc_ no it is bright 02:17 Doc_ 1 sec... 02:17 NekoGloop cornernote: how? 02:17 cornernote telling me to do something 02:17 cornernote then complain when i tell you to do soemthing 02:17 OldCoder NekoGloop, cornernote, VanessaE, any idea why ChanServ won't load? 02:17 cornernote cant belive i have to explain it so many times to you 02:17 NekoGloop you are telling me to do something i am simply incapable of doing. 02:18 cornernote as you are me 02:18 Doc_ here it is in inventory 02:18 Doc_ http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p524/dangerdoc44/block.png 02:18 cornernote i am incapable of shutting the fuck up about issues that i feel strongly about, when people want to mock my beliefs 02:18 Doc_ it shows up right 02:18 Doc_ but when it is placed 02:18 Doc_ it is dark. 02:18 Doc_ cornernote 02:18 NekoGloop cornernote: no. 02:19 Doc_ sometimes there are people in the internet that when they hear something 02:19 cornernote however, every human is capable of a less cruel and lesser footprint on the planet 02:19 Doc_ they think they have to mock it 02:19 Doc_ i agree with that 02:19 NekoGloop i mean i am incapable of giving up a lust for meat and blood. 02:19 OldCoder celeron55, I need the privs to direct chanserv please 02:19 Doc_ well neko 02:19 cornernote yet you assume i am capable of shutting the fuck up ? 02:19 NekoGloop cornernote: because you are. 02:19 cornernote lets agree not to tell each other what to do then 02:20 Doc_ and try not to offend eachother.... 02:20 Doc_ because it will go on for hours 02:20 cornernote you are as capable of not eating meat as i am shutting up 02:20 Doc_ unless you arent offended 02:20 Doc_ right 02:21 cornernote im not offended, i just dont want to be told what to do 02:21 Doc_ yeah 02:21 NekoGloop no, I'm not actually. 02:21 OldCoder My options are limited unless celeron55 grants me chanserv privs. I can kick and that's about it. 02:21 OldCoder I would prefer mute 02:21 Doc_ well can we all just change the subjects 02:21 OldCoder But that requires chanserv 02:21 Doc_ there should be ignore command 02:21 Doc_ for each person 02:21 OldCoder Yes 02:21 cornernote everyone can do /ignore 02:22 Doc_ oh 02:22 Doc_ lol 02:22 NekoGloop nope. 02:22 NekoGloop i cant. 02:22 Doc_ there is ignore... 02:22 Doc_ ohkay then 02:22 cornernote http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html 02:22 NekoGloop cornernote: webchat cant ignore. 02:22 Doc_ yush 02:22 cornernote well, suck beef then 02:22 Doc_ cornernote 02:22 cornernote :) 02:22 Doc_ can you help me 02:23 Doc_ my block is messing up 02:23 Doc_ http://pastebin.com/7KpKpXx2 02:23 Doc_ here is the code 02:23 Doc_ and this is what happens 02:23 Doc_ http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p524/dangerdoc44/block.png 02:23 Doc_ that isnt what the texture looks like 02:23 cornernote you do /ignore cornernote 02:23 cornernote then u wont see me 02:23 cornernote easy 02:23 cornernote sec Doc_ 02:23 Doc_ k 02:23 Doc_ wait a sec 02:24 Doc_ im doc22 02:24 Doc22 lol 02:24 cornernote something to do with light 02:24 cornernote wheres the code ? 02:24 Doc22 yeah but what 02:24 cornernote got it 02:24 Doc22 i pasted it 02:24 OldCoder Will somebody tell me how to delete a region with WorldEdit? 02:24 NekoGloop [21:24] == IGNORE Unknown command 02:24 cornernote yeah, sorry im all over the show 02:24 NekoGloop OldCoder: //dig 02:24 OldCoder To air? 02:24 OldCoder Just //pos1 //pos2 //dig ? 02:24 NekoGloop just //dig 02:24 NekoGloop yup 02:24 OldCoder k 02:24 cornernote NekoGloop - get an IRC client, or have a cup of cement and harden the fuck up 02:25 * NekoGloop used Harden! 02:25 Doc22 so cornernote 02:25 * NekoGloop 's Defence rose! 02:25 cornernote reading code, looking for the answer... 02:25 cornernote sed.. 02:25 Doc22 this happened as soon as i added drawtype 02:25 cornernote sec.. 02:26 cornernote try - sunlight_propagates = true 02:26 NekoGloop cornernote: he has that 02:26 cornernote and this aswell - paramtype = "light", 02:26 NekoGloop lrn2read 02:26 OldCoder VanessaE, for later, I need chanserv privs 02:26 OldCoder celeron55, ditto 02:26 Doc22 i added that 02:27 Doc22 oh paramtype 02:27 Doc22 kk ill try it 02:27 cornernote thanks NekoGloop, why don't you help ? 02:27 Doc22 ok 02:27 NekoGloop cornernote: because the all-powerful gods like yourself obviously dwarf the intelligence of mere beings like me. 02:27 Doc22 testing it 02:27 cornernote also, NekoGloop, i dont see that in his code 02:28 cornernote NekoGloop, good point 02:28 Doc22 because it isnt there 02:28 Doc22 he read the old version 02:28 Doc22 that i pasted 02:28 Doc22 i removed it to see if it would help 02:28 Doc22 yay thank you cornernote 02:28 Doc22 it works 02:28 cornernote so you need both lines ? 02:28 NekoGloop cornernote: learn to not have an ego the size of a planet. 02:28 Doc22 just paramtype 02:29 cornernote Doc22, nice 02:29 Doc22 thanks 02:29 cornernote NekoGloop, there you go again, telling people what to do 02:29 Doc22 im just trying random camoflage block 02:29 NekoGloop cornernote: you arent god,. 02:29 NekoGloop god doesnt exist. 02:29 cornernote you just realised that ? 02:30 Doc22 lets not get into religion... 02:30 OldCoder Good Lord 02:30 OldCoder D: 02:30 Doc22 that thing offends people all over 02:30 cornernote oh i have a whole religious side to my non-cruelty debate 02:30 cornernote wanna get into it ? 02:30 * cornernote laughs 02:30 Doc22 no please 02:30 Doc22 it will last for hours 02:30 cornernote maybe weeks 02:30 Doc22 i feel the way you do about what he said 02:31 Doc22 D: 02:31 TheSlimShady hi everybody 02:31 NekoGloop Oh look. 02:32 NekoGloop someone more to bitch in this arguement. 02:32 TheSlimShady Neko you havent left the pc since i left stfu hahahah 02:32 NekoGloop actually yes i have 02:32 TheSlimShady of course you did 02:33 TheSlimShady anyone wanna rap battle? 02:33 NekoGloop cornernote does. 02:34 OldCoder I need cornernote elsewhere 02:34 TheSlimShady ok, i cant battle cornernote 02:34 cornernote rap battle in IRC lol 02:35 TheSlimShady yup 02:35 NekoGloop I like how we have pickaxes that are apparently the size of canyons xD 02:36 Kacey hello 02:36 OldCoder anunakki, hi 02:37 Kacey `well that is real nice 02:37 TheSlimShady jooo oooo 02:37 TheSlimShady jo 02:37 TheSlimShady jo 02:37 TheSlimShady listen to my flow 02:38 Kacey landmine listen 02:38 TheSlimShady i hear theres a wannabe rapper on this chat named cornernote 02:38 TheSlimShady the ABC's is the best thing this kid every wrote 02:38 TheSlimShady everything thing he spits is rote 02:38 TheSlimShady this kid thinks he is cool, he sleeps with goats 02:38 TheSlimShady uhhhh yeah come at me bro 02:38 Kacey aggies (my fraking brother) thought the blocks exploded 02:39 TheSlimShady stfu im in the middle of a battle 02:39 Kacey i was placing them to take screenshots to make a 3d map 02:39 cornernote dude, theres just one thing i gotta do 02:39 cornernote after that watch out cos you're through! 02:39 OldCoder babyface1031, the clear is still running 02:39 OldCoder This may take a while 02:39 cornernote you'll have to give me a minute 02:39 babyface1031 ok 02:39 cornernote but then i'll be back and we can go up with it 02:39 TheSlimShady aiiight corner not ill wait 02:39 cornernote =) 02:40 TheSlimShady :) 02:40 TheSlimShady i need someone to heatup with 02:40 TheSlimShady how about nekogloop? 02:40 Kacey how about your mom 02:40 NekoGloop no. 02:42 cornernote NekoGloop wont battle, he thinks its not super critical 02:42 cornernote but once he starts, he will get hypocritical 02:42 NekoGloop cornernote: what the hell do you even mean? 02:43 * cornernote laughs 02:43 OldCoder cornernote, I have requested an unrelated favor 02:43 OldCoder If you are willing please focus on that 02:43 cornernote sorry, OC, i am reading 02:44 TheSlimShady jooo jooo 02:44 TheSlimShady nekogloop 02:44 TheSlimShady the king is back, calling out neko 02:44 TheSlimShady this kid, is so ugly he looks like a gecko 02:44 TheSlimShady hes a squeaker, his voice does echo 02:44 TheSlimShady i can beat this kid, while sipping pekoe 02:48 TheSlimShady let me spit some more 02:48 TheSlimShady NekoGloop i got bigger balls than you, get off my sack 02:48 TheSlimShady you dont want me your baby face to smack 02:48 TheSlimShady your face is chubby, you look like a baby on crack 02:48 TheSlimShady this kids voice is so sqeaky all i hear is quack 02:48 Kacey oldcoder ban/kick please 02:48 OldCoder Kacey, one moment 02:48 Kacey ok 02:49 * OldCoder considers 02:49 babyface1031_ ban who? 02:49 * Kacey is getting ready to celebrate 02:49 OldCoder Kacey, it is not possible to ban or kick him for long unless he agrees to it 02:49 Kacey ban him multiple times 02:49 OldCoder I'd prefer to use mute for people for short periods instead anyway 02:49 OldCoder Kacey, you are new here 02:49 Kacey menche did it 02:50 * OldCoder is reading 02:50 TheSlimShady no he didnt lol 02:50 TheSlimShady i could still go on 02:50 OldCoder TheSlimShady, NekoGloop could you rap instead? 02:50 Kacey hebanned you multiple times 02:50 TheSlimShady just got bored, it was too slow 02:50 OldCoder How does that work anyway? 02:51 OldCoder Or is that what the above is? 02:51 TheSlimShady i was rapping with nekogloop kacey is just whining for no reason 02:51 OldCoder NekoGloop, you wish to do this? 02:51 * Kacey found the cactus again 02:51 Kacey anger needs props 02:51 NekoGloop do what? 02:51 OldCoder Rap I mean? 02:51 OldCoder Hang on 02:51 OldCoder I am called away 02:51 NekoGloop you think i'm even paying attention to what he's babbling about? 02:51 TheSlimShady ahhaaha 02:52 TheSlimShady Kacey why you mad bro? 02:52 * OldCoder sighs 02:52 Kacey hah me neither but my computer highlights the text when my name comes up 02:52 TheSlimShady god, kids these days 02:52 NekoGloop Kacey: it's really easy to ignore 02:53 Kacey aah fuck the cat 02:53 NekoGloop no, dont fuck the cat. D: 02:53 TheSlimShady VanessaE can you come and ban these kids please 02:53 * Kacey swings the cactus and hits the cat back into the closet 02:53 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: only one who'd be banned would be you, LandMine. 02:53 NekoGloop Kacey: DDDDDDDDDDDD: 02:53 TheSlimShady get off my sack nekogloop 02:53 TheSlimShady i got bigger balls than you 02:54 TheSlimShady you havent even hit puberty 02:54 NekoGloop HAHAHA 02:54 NekoGloop shows what you know. 02:54 Kacey he jumped over me twice and then hit me so he went into the closet 02:54 NekoGloop Kacey: oh i thought you meant me 02:55 NekoGloop Kacey: shows what i get for making myself be known as "the cat" 02:55 Kacey lol no you are the kitty to me 02:56 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWEQf_KrmXY 02:57 TheSlimShady nekogloop i bet your mexican 02:57 Kacey xubuntu yay!!!!! 02:57 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: you just lost that bet. 02:57 Kacey atleast he is blacker than you cracker 02:57 TheSlimShady nah...your parents are mexican or you are 02:57 TheSlimShady and kacey that comment is stupid 02:57 TheSlimShady cause i am mexican 02:57 TheSlimShady now stfu 02:58 TheSlimShady i think i hit a nerve htought, kacey is mexican too 02:58 Kacey where is bill gates when i need him 02:58 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: show me what picture you claim to have of me. 02:58 Kacey same here 02:58 NekoGloop Kacey: Inventing winshit-- i mean win8 02:58 TheSlimShady you know i have it neko lol 02:59 Kacey neko lol he invented xp though 02:59 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: uh, well since you seem to think I'm on mexican descent I'm beginning to doubt you :3 03:00 TheSlimShady nah 03:00 TheSlimShady Kacey so are you mexican? 03:00 NekoGloop The second Alice died from a madman's bullet. 03:01 Kacey fuck no im from the u s of a biotch all american redneck 03:01 NekoGloop He sang a song, bloated with what was false in the world.. 03:01 NekoGloop Maddening all those who heard... 03:02 Doc22 testing again 03:02 TheSlimShady if your redneck why would you call me a cracker? hahahaa 03:02 Doc22 my mod 03:02 TheSlimShady what a stupid redneck 03:02 Kacey well when your car breaks down i guess you have to push it all the way to home depot 03:02 hmmmm who here would be interested in eventually writing Lua scripts for armor, air, experience, and hunger? 03:03 Kacey maybe me 03:03 NekoGloop hmmmm: cornernote has done armor. 03:03 hmmmm how does it work 03:03 hmmmm can you show me that? 03:03 NekoGloop T_A_N_K has done XP 03:03 TheSlimShady Kacey your have the worst comebacks 03:03 TheSlimShady hmmm dont be lazy and search the forums 03:03 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWEQf_KrmXY 03:03 TheSlimShady now stop spamming my irc box 03:03 hmmmm lol 03:04 hmmmm TheSlimShady, you seem upset 03:04 TheSlimShady nah..Neko why even send this video? you dont even know what it says 03:04 NekoGloop hmmmm: why would LandMine be upset about anything? 03:04 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: it says gibberish. Literally. 03:04 hmmmm hah! figured it was him. 03:04 hmmmm the whole trolly attitude going on 03:05 Kacey he got a dick lodged in his ass 03:05 hmmmm never talked to the notorious LandMine directly until now, seems like a douche though. I see why you guys don't like him 03:05 TheSlimShady cool story hmmm now stop spamming 03:05 TheSlimShady Kacey that comeback sucks too 03:06 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: only one spamming here is you. 03:06 TheSlimShady but keep saying them, eventaually you will say something funny 03:06 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC6TM9L-6Pk&feature=related 03:06 Kacey i almost forgot to laugh at that landmine 03:07 TheSlimShady you werent supposed too:) 03:07 Kacey that was soooo funny i forgot to laugh 03:09 babyface1031_ well i am logging off for the night see you all tomorrow :D 03:10 Doc22 cya 03:10 Doc22 testing again 03:10 Doc22 ... 03:10 Doc22 i think i got it working now 03:10 TheSlimShady Doc22 what are you testing? 03:11 NekoGloop a LandMine-repellant. 03:11 Doc22 a mod im making 03:11 Doc22 its my first oe 03:11 Doc22 one 03:11 Doc22 its a simple camoflage mod 03:11 TheSlimShady ohh cool luck with it 03:11 Doc22 thx 03:11 TheSlimShady NekoGloop get of my sack 03:11 TheSlimShady i bet you want my dick 03:12 NekoGloop Since you're such a faggot it wouldnt matter to you. 03:13 TheSlimShady that comeback sucked 03:13 NekoGloop so do you. 03:13 * sdzen bitch slaps the two of you 03:14 Doc22 come now ladies, you mustnt fight over such petty things 03:14 Doc22 tsk tsk 03:14 NekoGloop Doc22: haha. 03:14 Doc22 lolz 03:14 NekoGloop sdzen: ... why? 03:15 TheSlimShady sdzen stfu your dirty brasilian sheep fucker 03:15 TheSlimShady hahahahaha 03:15 TheSlimShady j/k 03:16 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uke1neXiIPw&feature=related 03:16 cornernote hey LandMine, i have something come up... wont be able to battle for a little 03:16 TheSlimShady its ok cornernote 03:16 TheSlimShady someother time maybe 03:16 TheSlimShady hey i got some news 03:16 hmmmm dude 03:16 NekoGloop dude. 03:16 hmmmm i showed TheSlimShady a picture of my nutsack 03:17 TheSlimShady if any of you wanna see hmmm 's balls you can see it here 03:17 NekoGloop you arent the center of the channel. 03:17 TheSlimShady http://i.imgur.com/GL00Q.jpg 03:17 hmmmm and he told me that he'd lick it 03:17 hmmmm that kid's gay 03:17 TheSlimShady hmmm balls http://i.imgur.com/GL00Q.jpg 03:17 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: you arent the center of the channel. 03:17 Doc22 seriously oldcoder you should moderate this... 03:17 NekoGloop Get out or accept the facts. 03:17 TheSlimShady posting on 4chan and reporting to cops since he sent the pic to a minor 03:18 OldCoder Doc22, I need the ability to mute 03:18 Doc22 yah 03:18 OldCoder Doc22, I have only the ability to ban or kick 03:18 NekoGloop just ban him. 03:18 NekoGloop We've all had enough. 03:18 TheSlimShady hmmm posting on 4chan and reporting to cops since he sent the pic to a minor 03:18 Doc22 well if they are posting pictures of balls then ban them 03:18 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFezwLIqoJQ&feature=related 03:18 * OldCoder sighs 03:18 OldCoder cornernote, will you join us 03:19 OldCoder NekoGloop, there is an alternative 03:19 OldCoder He wishes to debate 03:19 NekoGloop NekoGloop: what? 03:19 TheSlimShady yeah nekigloop just ban me and get off my sack 03:19 NekoGloop let Landmine run free? 03:19 OldCoder No 03:19 TheSlimShady i mean just mute me 03:19 hmmmm lmao 03:19 hmmmm OldCoder has no backbone, what a pussy 03:19 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: lrn2type. 03:19 OldCoder I can't; I don't have the privs yet 03:19 OldCoder And I dislike the idea 03:19 OldCoder Hang on 03:20 cornernote NekoGloop: lrn2eat 03:20 TheSlimShady hey hmmm im on the phone with my local cops hahaha 03:20 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: lol? 03:20 OldCoder TheSlimShady, you remember cornernote 03:20 OldCoder cornernote, you know TheSlimShady 03:20 TheSlimShady yeah....he said he didnt have time today 03:20 TheSlimShady i said it was cool 03:20 TheSlimShady someother time 03:21 hmmmm hey doodz 03:22 cornernote LandMine, you wanna see whats under my nutsack? 03:22 cornernote the only thing there is my butt-crack 03:22 TheSlimShady wtf? 03:22 cornernote so why dont you suck that 03:23 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFezwLIqoJQ&feature=related 03:24 cornernote all this fag talks making me nervoius 03:24 Doc22 cool i got my mod 03:24 cornernote i think i'll go back with my friends and herbivores 03:24 Doc22 lol 03:24 TheSlimShady heh 03:24 Doc22 or you could play on my server 03:25 Doc22 lots of herbivores there 03:25 Doc22 (and a few vombies) 03:25 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: Smegma breath. Shut up. 03:25 TheSlimShady you have a server Doc22? whats the ip 03:25 TheSlimShady i wanna see 03:25 cornernote im not here to cause pain or grief 03:25 cornernote all you carcass munchers and fags can go eat your beef 03:27 TheSlimShady cornernote get of my sack bitch 03:28 TheSlimShady your so fulled of herpes, you make my balls itch 03:28 TheSlimShady you cant beat me, all i eat is flitch 03:28 TheSlimShady i know you want me corner, if i was you i'd want me too bitch 03:28 sdzen please kick him 03:28 cornernote kick who ? 03:28 sdzen theslimshady 03:28 cornernote why ? 03:28 Doc22 cornernote 03:29 TheSlimShady we are having a rapbattle sdzen get a sense of humor you queer 03:29 Doc22 want to join my server to review my mod 03:29 cornernote sup? 03:29 cornernote not atm sorry, to many things to do 03:29 sdzen I have no sense of humour sorry 03:29 Doc22 pl 03:29 Doc22 ok* 03:29 Doc22 lol 03:30 OldCoder sdzen, he wishes a battle with cornernote 03:30 OldCoder That may be possible tomorrow 03:30 OldCoder sdzen, I can't summon chanserv here 03:30 OldCoder That is a privs issue; correct? 03:30 TheSlimShady yeah sdzen get off my sack, you goat rapist 03:30 * OldCoder sighs 03:30 cornernote listen up here sdzen, you're just a middle-man... stop being a hick, you don't have the perms to kick 03:31 OldCoder Rap? 03:31 OldCoder Is that what it is? 03:31 cornernote yea 03:31 OldCoder Ah 03:31 OldCoder I rhyme but not that snappy 03:32 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmOeqLHwn5g 03:33 TheSlimShady joo 1 2 13 03:33 TheSlimShady 1 2 1 2 03:33 NekoGloop Kalinka? Malinka? 03:33 TheSlimShady my dick has been blowed more times that cornernote prom date 03:33 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUQ1TH0MDUk 03:33 TheSlimShady a can of beans is the last thing this fagg ate 03:34 TheSlimShady trying to act hard so we think he is straight 03:34 TheSlimShady he likes men, at night his name is kate 03:34 TheSlimShady yeahhhhh 03:34 Doc22 oh slimshady you wanted to play on my server 03:35 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUQ1TH0MDUk 03:35 NekoGloop Doc22: dont let him. 03:35 NekoGloop PERIOD. 03:35 Doc22 ok 03:35 Doc22 griefer? 03:35 NekoGloop worse 03:35 NekoGloop he'll kill your server computer. 03:35 Doc22 ohkay 03:35 Doc22 thanks 03:35 Doc22 neko 03:35 TheSlimShady yup i will make your pc explode 03:36 NekoGloop w 03:36 NekoGloop Well you killed M13's GPU. 03:36 TheSlimShady did i? 03:36 NekoGloop Yeah. 03:36 TheSlimShady its faggs like you that give me all the fame hahaha 03:36 NekoGloop What, you thought we forgot? 03:36 cornernote LandMine, do you have something to prove, 03:36 cornernote Or is it you're just hiding the truth? 03:36 cornernote The truth that you are living in the gutter, 03:37 cornernote That to buy your last meal you had to be a cum dumpster? 03:37 cornernote Thats not all, i know another... 03:37 cornernote to get your jollies off you like to felch your mother 03:38 GTRsdk TheSlimShady: wanna play on mine (after it's all set up)? :D 03:39 TheSlimShady sure GTRsdk 03:39 TheSlimShady 1 2 1 2 03:39 TheSlimShady cornernote that last words you spit didnt even ryhme 03:39 TheSlimShady your rap skill suck, you can be beaten by a mime 03:40 TheSlimShady i own this shit im like optimus prime 03:40 TheSlimShady your so worthless, wasting you wouldnt even be considered a crime 03:40 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUQ1TH0MDUk Best rap. So shut your yap. 03:43 TheSlimShady OldCoder can you kick NekoGloop for about 5 min so he can reflect about his actions, i come and peace and he starts being hostile 03:44 NekoGloop Who -wouldnt- be hostile to the one griefer on minetest who kills servers outright? 03:44 Doc22 ikr 03:44 OldCoder Reading 03:44 cornernote NekoGloop, don't you kill animals ? 03:44 cornernote i think killing servers isnt as bad as killing animals 03:45 NekoGloop cornernote: would you like to be next? 03:45 cornernote next for what ? 03:45 TheSlimShady OldCoder have you considered 03:45 OldCoder NekoGloop, TheSlimShady I've made it through the day without kicking anybody. I want the ability to mute for 5 minutes. Everybody should be satisfied with that. 03:45 OldCoder NekoGloop, drop the server issue for now 03:45 OldCoder The main question is 03:45 OldCoder Who wants to debate or talk to who right now 03:45 OldCoder I think 03:45 OldCoder There is a debate 03:46 OldCoder I'd like to see 03:46 OldCoder One between these two 03:46 TheSlimShady well me and corner have something going and he just bumbs in 03:46 TheSlimShady no one is talking to hi 03:46 Doc22 lol there needs to me #minetest-debate 03:46 OldCoder NekoGloop, let them talk 03:46 TheSlimShady and he just says negative stuff 03:46 OldCoder I wish to see 03:46 OldCoder what they make 03:46 OldCoder Of each other 03:46 OldCoder Excuse me 03:46 OldCoder Not well 03:46 OldCoder ATM 03:46 NekoGloop they will make fools of each other. 03:46 OldCoder I wish to see 03:46 OldCoder If this is the case 03:46 OldCoder Both of them 03:46 cornernote what do you want to see ? 03:47 OldCoder The two of them 03:47 cornernote why ? 03:47 OldCoder Have something in common 03:47 cornernote who 03:47 cornernote not why... who 03:47 OldCoder cornernote and TheSlimShady 03:47 cornernote ok, and now why 03:47 Doc22 [20:13] come now ladies, you mustnt fight over such petty things 03:47 Doc22 :D 03:47 OldCoder Why do I need you to debate? 03:47 cornernote why would you like to see it 03:47 OldCoder he needs it; and you are up to it 03:47 OldCoder Beyond that 03:47 OldCoder I am learning 03:47 OldCoder About both of you 03:47 OldCoder Though really 03:47 OldCoder I wish this could be 03:48 OldCoder tomorrow 03:48 cornernote debate, or rap-battle 03:48 OldCoder and you cornernote know why 03:48 Doc22 wait so oldcoder you said adhd is bad for programmers 03:48 OldCoder Doc22, yes 03:48 Doc22 and ocd is good 03:48 OldCoder I think it may be 03:48 Doc22 hmmmm 03:48 OldCoder That is an overstatement 03:48 Doc22 i might have ocd 03:48 OldCoder I am confused 03:48 Doc22 but i definitely have adhd 03:48 OldCoder Doc22, you may have a bit 03:48 Doc22 lol 03:48 OldCoder Doc22, then you have an interesting mix 03:48 NekoGloop LandMine: nick is b& 03:48 Doc22 when i imagine things in my head 03:48 LandMine you dont have adhd, your just retarted 03:48 cornernote adhd = lesser concentration, right ? 03:48 Doc22 sometimes they loop 03:48 OldCoder LandMine, TheSlimShady will you debate each other? 03:49 cornernote but with meds you get longer concentration 03:49 OldCoder Yes 03:49 Doc22 i wouldnt say that im retarded 03:49 cornernote LandMine, TheSlimShady <-- same person =) 03:49 OldCoder You are not 03:49 OldCoder I know 03:49 LandMine i would 03:49 OldCoder But in a sense 03:49 Doc22 considering that the first time i took iq i got 132 03:49 OldCoder Are they? 03:49 Doc22 and im 14 03:49 cornernote so i am told 03:49 Doc22 adhd is partially good 03:49 NekoGloop wait what 03:49 LandMine oldcoder wth? i sent you a pm saying i was slimshady 03:49 Doc22 it makes you have lots of energy 03:49 OldCoder LandMine, I know 03:49 NekoGloop OldCoder, check the banlist. 03:49 OldCoder And I believe you 03:49 OldCoder NekoGloop, go on 03:50 Doc22 (im a fast swimmer on swim team) 03:50 OldCoder Doc22, good 03:50 Doc22 and it makes you think faster 03:50 OldCoder cornernote, one or the other 03:50 Doc22 so it is both good and bad 03:50 NekoGloop "*!*@*.189.144.* VanessaE!~vanessa@71-85-120-233.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com" should probably not be on the banlist...? 03:50 LandMine docc22 tell it to your face 03:50 OldCoder I need you elsewhere 03:50 OldCoder Oh 03:50 Doc22 that sounds so much like my little brother 03:50 * Doc22 lols 03:50 OldCoder How did that get there? 03:50 OldCoder Oh 03:50 OldCoder Hmm 03:50 Doc22 lolz 03:50 cornernote i cant just debate someone, they have to express a view about something i disagree with 03:50 LandMine NekoGloop im unbannable ithought i had made that clear 03:51 OldCoder LandMine, you are not unbannable. You may agree to it. 03:51 NekoGloop LandMine: nope. 03:51 Doc22 even if i have only bad disorders 03:51 Doc22 im happy with my head 03:51 cornernote NekoGloop has trouble keeping up 03:51 OldCoder cornernote, then return to the document please 03:51 cornernote sure 03:51 NekoGloop all we need to do is purge the virus 03:51 NekoGloop in this case, the virus is landmine. 03:51 LandMine sounds stupid neko 03:52 LandMine your mother should have swollowed you 03:52 NekoGloop facts need not have a ring to them. 03:52 OldCoder That is true 03:52 NekoGloop History need not repeat itself. 03:52 OldCoder True also 03:53 NekoGloop Remove the loop. 03:53 OldCoder Go on 03:53 NekoGloop It is not that hard to remove LandMine. 03:53 OldCoder Life is so odd. The things I see. 03:53 LandMine its not? 03:53 OldCoder NekoGloop, Continue 03:53 NekoGloop LandMine: bots are easy to write. 03:53 OldCoder But should he be removed? 03:53 LandMine why dont you do it NekoGloop ?? 03:54 NekoGloop LandMine: because i lack the ability to op said bot. 03:54 OldCoder What is he? What are you? 03:54 OldCoder Sorry 03:54 LandMine you lack brain neko 03:54 OldCoder I am actually not well 03:54 LandMine thats all 03:54 NekoGloop OldCoder: He is the second Alice. I am the Fifth. 03:54 OldCoder NekoGloop, I think I understand 03:54 OldCoder But I won't comment 03:54 NekoGloop His dream is a nightmare. 03:54 NekoGloop Woven from lies, sung with harsh words. 03:54 LandMine second alice?? sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me 03:54 OldCoder What is it that he needs? and you? 03:55 OldCoder Bullshit can be symbolic 03:55 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6MltGHO-lE 03:55 OldCoder I can't see YT 03:55 LandMine he is just copy pasting from this 03:55 NekoGloop It wasnt meant for you. 03:55 LandMine http://aliceinwonderland.wikia.com/wiki/Alice_Human_Sacrifice 03:55 Doc22 oldcoder 03:55 OldCoder All right 03:55 OldCoder Doc22, PM 03:55 Doc22 ok 03:55 OldCoder And let them talk 03:55 NekoGloop LandMine: No. 03:56 LandMine yup 03:56 NekoGloop Although good eye with noting the reference. 03:56 LandMine so neko what you gonna do to stop me punk? 03:56 LandMine hahahahah 03:57 NekoGloop An Alice cannot wake. 03:57 NekoGloop So I shall torture your dreams. 03:57 LandMine well im convinced your too much into anime bullshit 03:57 OldCoder To what end? 03:58 LandMine getting so deep into something as irrelistic as a movie shows your lonly and over weight NekoGloop 03:58 LandMine stop making a fool out of yourself 03:58 LandMine and resiting this b/s 03:58 NekoGloop LandMine: Alice Human Sacrifice is not a movie. 03:59 NekoGloop It is history told before its time. 03:59 LandMine its a song 03:59 NekoGloop It is true; it just hasnt happened yet. 03:59 NekoGloop LandMine: wrong again. 03:59 LandMine sure 03:59 NekoGloop It is a creepypasta. 03:59 LandMine like you lossing your virginity 04:01 LandMine yeah thats what i tought now keep it shit 04:01 LandMine shut*** 04:01 NekoGloop shit is what you are. 04:02 LandMine i could have thought of a better comeback 04:02 NekoGloop Then again, you have no morals. 04:02 OldCoder Wait 04:02 OldCoder NekoGloop, what are your morals? What do you stand for? 04:02 OldCoder Rather 04:03 OldCoder What matters to you? 04:03 LandMine he kills animals according to corner 04:03 NekoGloop Order. 04:03 OldCoder Order 04:03 OldCoder Predictability 04:03 NekoGloop I care for the order of the world, of this channel, of my life. 04:03 OldCoder LandMine, Chaos? Or is that trite? 04:03 OldCoder That seems reasonable 04:03 LandMine seems lame to me 04:04 NekoGloop LandMine is the embodiment of chaos. 04:04 NekoGloop Hence the second Alice, spinning lies. 04:04 LandMine meh again with this non sense 04:04 NekoGloop Ironic that part of the song is playing now. 04:04 OldCoder LandMine, you are Chaos? Comfortable with impulse? 04:05 cornernote i think murdering animals for taste is the embodiment of chaos 04:05 LandMine true 04:05 NekoGloop It is maintaining the balance. 04:05 LandMine what balance? 04:05 NekoGloop The balance of the life on earth. 04:05 OldCoder That is a fair question 04:05 NekoGloop Order must be maintained. 04:05 OldCoder I am not being trite; explain order to me 04:06 LandMine yeah killing an animal will make this world better 04:06 Doc22 cornernote 04:06 NekoGloop Carnivore kills animal. 04:06 Doc22 i dont mean offense 04:06 LandMine what a stupid form of thinking 04:06 NekoGloop Let me rephrase. 04:06 cornernote killing billions of animals every year is keeping balance? 04:06 Doc22 but it is also good for you 04:06 LandMine well OldCoder you are talking to a future serial killer 04:06 cornernote you know those animals that are killed, they are manufactured 04:06 LandMine with his crazy alice b/ 04:06 LandMine and balace shit 04:06 Doc22 to restore nutrients to your body 04:06 cornernote whats good for you ? 04:06 NekoGloop Plant grows. Herbivore eats plant. Carnivore eats herbvore. 04:06 OldCoder LandMine, but won't the belief in order direct things? 04:07 Doc22 i am not shoving anything down your throught 04:07 Doc22 throut 04:07 cornernote Doc22, if meat was good for you... US medicare wouldnt be bankrupting the country... 04:07 Doc22 hmmm 04:07 OldCoder NekoGloop, you are referring to natural cycles 04:07 OldCoder Doc22, hi 04:07 LandMine Doc22 stfu go mind your own buisness 04:07 Doc22 hrmmmmmm 04:07 NekoGloop OldCoder: The order of nature. 04:07 LandMine it would make sense if you were to eat it 04:07 LandMine but killing for killing is stupid 04:08 NekoGloop Killing for killing is below me. 04:08 cornernote how about killing for taste ? 04:08 cornernote killing for entertainment 04:08 Doc22 that is evil 04:08 NekoGloop Killing to feed oneself. 04:08 cornernote killing for convenience ? 04:09 Doc22 and i dont agree with killing for entertainment or convenience 04:09 cornernote you mean you need to kill to feed yourself ? 04:09 NekoGloop no. 04:09 Doc22 yes 04:09 OldCoder NekoGloop, all right; let's say that nature has patterns 04:09 OldCoder Where do you go with that? 04:09 NekoGloop I uphold them. 04:09 LandMine_ ahhh i dc 04:09 LandMine_ ahhh i dc 04:10 OldCoder NekoGloop, uphold how? 04:10 OldCoder I am not criticizing 04:10 cornernote I have lived a life where I accept animal cruelty as a way of living, you have not lived a life where you exclude animal cruelty. Some people grow to make a connection that you have not yet made. 04:10 NekoGloop Maintain the balance. 04:10 OldCoder NekoGloop, be part of nature 04:10 OldCoder ? 04:11 Doc22 i see how you would feel around that cornernote 04:11 OldCoder And LM is different? How so? 04:11 NekoGloop LandMine disrupts Peace. 04:11 OldCoder Is order peace? 04:11 OldCoder Predictability 04:11 OldCoder That is part of it 04:11 NekoGloop Order creates Peace. 04:12 cornernote NekoGloop, in nature, animals rape others within their species... seems pretty normal for animals... do you rape females of your species to maintain the balance ? 04:12 OldCoder One type of peace 04:12 NekoGloop cornernote: This is not design. 04:12 cornernote animals have beliefs and desires, an emotional life, memory, and the ability to initiate action in pursuit of goals — and therefore should be viewed as ends in themselves, not a means to an end 04:13 NekoGloop Animals are part of Order.Nature 04:13 LandMine_ wow such drama 04:13 cornernote Unless you are actually starving to death, food is not worth killing for... 04:13 OldCoder NekoGloop, things are a certain way 04:13 OldCoder They follow cycles 04:13 LandMine_ its just obvious that nekogloop is a future serial killer 04:13 LandMine_ or rapist 04:13 OldCoder The cycles are natural and predictable 04:13 LandMine_ with that form of thinking 04:13 OldCoder Is all of this correct? 04:13 LandMine_ and that alice b/s 04:13 OldCoder LandMine_, that is not signaled by the Order stuff. What about that? Is he upset because you are unpredictable? Or follow now rules? 04:14 OldCoder *no rules 04:14 NekoGloop Order creates cycles. If such cycles are broken, chaos will prevail. 04:14 LandMine_ hes mad cause he cant shit talk at me 04:14 cornernote maintain the balance .. have a chicken nugget - http://www.green-blog.org/media/images/uploads/2010/07/factoryfarming3_thumb.jpg 04:14 NekoGloop cycles must continue. 04:14 OldCoder LandMine_, He can't control you 04:14 cornernote cos in nature, live baby chicks get fed into a grinder 04:14 OldCoder NekoGloop, how does he disrupt cycles? 04:15 LandMine_ cuase i could kick his ass 04:15 * OldCoder shrugs 04:15 NekoGloop OldCoder: By "trolling". 04:15 OldCoder I see 04:15 NekoGloop Upsetting of sentient beings causes chaos. 04:15 OldCoder NekoGloop, true 04:15 OldCoder But you are especially rattled in this case. True opposites. 04:15 OldCoder That is why I assume 04:16 OldCoder You can't control him. He isn't concerned about you. Should he be? 04:16 OldCoder Isn't there a balance? 04:16 LandMine_ concered about him? 04:16 OldCoder Order and Chaos 04:16 OldCoder You are not 04:16 OldCoder So where is the balance? 04:16 LandMine_ hes just a killer expecting to break loose 04:16 OldCoder Based on the song 04:17 OldCoder But that may be nothing but a symbol 04:17 OldCoder Five Alices 04:17 NekoGloop The host's liking of music is irrelevant. 04:17 cornernote this looks natural - http://veganvirtues.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/milk1.gif 04:17 OldCoder NekoGloop, all right 04:18 LandMine_ nekogloop and his five alices can kiss my hiary mexican ass 04:18 OldCoder That is fine 04:18 OldCoder LandMine_, we know his problem with you 04:18 NekoGloop Unknown reason of callback: irc.hl 04:18 OldCoder You are not concerned about him 04:19 OldCoder is that true? 04:19 OldCoder Excuse me if it is none of my concern 04:19 LandMine_ im not concered about him 04:20 LandMine_ i dont give 2 shits abou thim tbh 04:20 LandMine_ hahahaha 04:20 OldCoder All right 04:20 NekoGloop minetest.register_on_globalstep(function(player) if player.name == "Landmine" then player.hp = 0 end end) 04:21 LandMine_ i can just change name stupid 04:21 LandMine_ hahhahahah 04:21 OldCoder LandMine_, do you spend time here partly because of him? 04:21 LandMine_ LandMine1 and its fixed 04:21 LandMine_ hahahah 04:21 LandMine_ not really 04:21 OldCoder All right 04:21 LandMine_ but he does 04:21 OldCoder because of you? 04:21 LandMine_ he cares alot about me 04:21 LandMine_ yeah cause of me 04:21 LandMine_ hes on my sack 04:21 OldCoder Just here? 04:22 NekoGloop minetest.register_on_globalstep(function(player) if string.find(player.name, "Landmine") >= 1 then player.hp = 0 end end) 04:22 NekoGloop debug complete. 04:22 OldCoder NekoGloop, what about order and chaos 04:22 OldCoder It is Goddamn trite 04:22 OldCoder But seriously just like in the stories 04:22 NekoGloop OldCoder: Order must be upheld. 04:22 OldCoder Aren't they both supposed to be there? 04:22 OldCoder Suppose I agree! 04:22 OldCoder But is order static? 04:22 NekoGloop Order must exist 04:23 OldCoder it is a cycle 04:23 OldCoder Yes 04:23 NekoGloop Chaos must be eliminated. 04:23 LandMine_ NekoGloop i disrupt all oder, what are you gonna do bitch?!!!!! 04:23 OldCoder Entirely? 04:23 OldCoder NekoGloop, chaos and order are brothers 04:23 OldCoder Who are supposed to fight 04:23 OldCoder Eliminated 04:23 NekoGloop Unknown operation 04:23 NekoGloop Unknown operation 04:23 NekoGloop Unknown operation 04:23 OldCoder Would order even be possible? 04:24 LandMine_ hahahah NekoGloop get off my sack you fucking loony aahahahaha 04:24 OldCoder NekoGloop, *must* chaos be eliminated? 04:24 NekoGloop Yes. 04:24 OldCoder It sounds idiotic in movies but 04:24 OldCoder What is left if a coin just has one side? 04:25 OldCoder I'm serious 04:25 OldCoder Order 04:25 OldCoder Is crucial 04:25 NekoGloop Balance is a product of Order. 04:25 OldCoder Balance between 04:25 OldCoder Order and Chaos 04:25 NekoGloop Imbalance is a product of Chaos. 04:25 LandMine_ NekoGloop ypur not a man, your just a deep voiced bitch 04:25 NekoGloop Order will prevail. 04:26 NekoGloop Balance will be made between Order and Chaos. 04:26 NekoGloop Order will be stronger. 04:26 OldCoder Wait 04:26 OldCoder You acknowledge the balance will be between the two of them 04:26 OldCoder They must both exist 04:26 NekoGloop FATAL ERROR 04:26 OldCoder They are different ways of looking at the qualities of things 04:26 NekoGloop FATAL ERROR 04:26 NekoGloop FATAL ERROR 04:26 NekoGloop FATAL ERROR 04:27 OldCoder FATAL ERROR was not my intent 04:27 * OldCoder sighs 04:27 LandMine_ lol 04:27 LandMine_ finally 04:27 OldCoder LandMine_, he should exist 04:27 OldCoder Serves a role 04:27 LandMine_ i never said he shouldnt? 04:27 OldCoder All right 04:27 LandMine_ i was just making fun of him 04:27 OldCoder I know 04:27 OldCoder I hope he's O.K. 04:27 LandMine_ i think his form of thinking is stuid 04:27 LandMine_ same 04:27 OldCoder And he feels the same way about you 04:28 LandMine_ i bet he does 04:28 OldCoder But Order and Chaos are different parts of the same thing 04:28 LandMine_ i see 04:28 OldCoder Lord 04:28 OldCoder I know how trite that sounds 04:28 OldCoder No need to point it out 04:28 * OldCoder considers 04:28 LandMine_ lol 04:28 LandMine_ its ok 04:28 OldCoder NekoGloop, you O.K. ? 04:28 NekoGloop the hell happened to my webchat tab. 04:28 NekoGloop why do you ask? 04:28 OldCoder Well maybe 04:28 OldCoder FATAL ERROR 04:28 OldCoder FATAL ERROR 04:28 OldCoder Did it 04:29 OldCoder Was that you or somebody else 04:29 OldCoder Pretending to be you? 04:29 NekoGloop what are you talking about? 04:29 OldCoder Heh 04:29 OldCoder One moment 04:29 OldCoder FATAL ERROR 04:29 OldCoder They are different ways of looking at the qualities of things 04:29 OldCoder FATAL ERROR 04:29 OldCoder FATAL ERROR 04:29 OldCoder FATAL ERROR 04:29 OldCoder ? 04:29 LandMine_ it was him 04:29 LandMine_ lol 04:29 OldCoder All right 04:29 NekoGloop lol? 04:30 OldCoder The two of you ought to work things out 04:30 LandMine_ i dont care about this pickle kisser hahahaha 04:30 LandMine_ he is the one wiht the issure 04:30 LandMine_ issue*** 04:30 LandMine_ not just with me but mentally 04:30 NekoGloop one asterick is enough. 04:30 LandMine_ *************** 04:31 NekoGloop random fact: * is 42 in ASCII 04:31 OldCoder LandMine_, Acknowledged. Yet is he wrong about a balance? 04:32 NekoGloop What balance? 04:32 LandMine_ me wooping your ass 04:32 NekoGloop haha. 04:32 OldCoder NekoGloop, somebody with your nick 04:32 OldCoder Has been talking about balance between order and chaos 04:32 OldCoder Was that you? 04:33 OldCoder I have no right to advise either of you BTW and I know it 04:33 LandMine_ look at his ip 04:33 LandMine_ it was him 04:33 OldCoder O.K. 04:33 OldCoder You have misunderstood 04:33 OldCoder I was not implying it was you 04:33 LandMine_ i know 04:33 OldCoder NekoGloop, what are you thinking? 04:33 LandMine_ but there are 2 retards that would htink nekogloop is a cool name 04:34 LandMine_ arent******************* 04:34 NekoGloop OldCoder: i dont understand the question. 04:34 OldCoder NekoGloop, all right 04:35 OldCoder NekoGloop, LandMine_ I am ill enough I can't talk much longer. NekoGloop how do you feel? 04:35 NekoGloop Alright? 04:35 OldCoder NekoGloop, Are you irritated by LandMine_ but able to accept the fact he is out there? 04:35 OldCoder A few minutes ago 04:35 NekoGloop Yes? 04:35 OldCoder All right 04:36 LandMine_ hahah 04:36 LandMine_ what a retard playing crazy 04:36 OldCoder LandMine_, that is not to imply he could affect you 04:36 LandMine_ lol its ok 04:36 OldCoder And I don't think it's about crazy 04:36 LandMine_ i do 04:36 OldCoder Fine 04:36 LandMine_ he knows what he was saying was just b/s 04:37 LandMine_ so now hes like what? 04:37 OldCoder Then what is he thinking? 04:37 LandMine_ when where? 04:37 LandMine_ he feels stupid about himself 04:37 OldCoder That does not need to be Fatal Error 04:37 OldCoder People survive that 04:38 OldCoder LandMine_, you said you don't care about him 04:38 OldCoder He seems unsure how he feels about you 04:38 OldCoder If you are Order Chaos a balance really should be possible 04:38 OldCoder But as I said 04:38 OldCoder I got no right to comment 04:38 OldCoder It is just that 04:38 OldCoder I have changed myself in recent years 04:38 OldCoder I actually don't want 04:38 OldCoder Anything to happen to either of you 04:39 OldCoder I think 04:39 OldCoder I need to finish what I am working on 04:39 LandMine_ guess so 04:39 OldCoder Because I can't stay awake much later than this 04:39 LandMine_ same, its 10:30 here lol gotta wake up a 4 am for schhol 04:39 OldCoder Fair enough 04:39 OldCoder No further comments at this time 04:39 LandMine_ kk 04:40 NekoGloop hm... reviewing the logs, that seems like a bot i put together. Kinda sloppily coded. 04:40 LandMine_ hahahah ahhahahahaa hahahahhahaha 04:40 NekoGloop Wonder why it activated. 04:40 LandMine_ hahahahaha 04:40 LandMine_ hahahahahahaha 04:40 LandMine_ hahahahahah 04:40 OldCoder We can discuss it another time 04:40 LandMine_ hahahah 04:40 LandMine_ god i could have thought of another exucse 04:40 LandMine_ hahahah 04:41 LandMine_ i htink that comment just dropped my IQ by 20 points 04:41 NekoGloop to -20? 04:41 NekoGloop Anyway, I'm off to bed as well. 04:42 LandMine_ OldCoder common man you think that was a bot? 04:42 OldCoder No 04:42 OldCoder I have guesses but as I have said; I'll take a few years before I write about it 04:43 OldCoder I've made enough mistakes in my life 04:43 OldCoder AFK or in PM now on other matters 04:43 LandMine_ kk, well im sleepy and this cold is killing me 04:43 OldCoder I have about 4 hours to finish something 04:43 LandMine_ so im of to sleep 04:43 LandMine_ take care 04:43 OldCoder All right 04:44 Doc22 gtg 04:45 Doc22 cya later 05:04 hmmmm i wonder how old landmine is 05:04 hmmmm definitely under 18 05:18 cornernote isnt everyone here under 18 ? 05:21 cornernote while it's the people that need feeding, it's the animals we're breeding, they outnumber humans 6 to 1 05:21 cornernote many children hardly eat, cos their food is fed to meat, while this blame for this shame you pass on 05:25 hmmmm i'm 21 05:25 hmmmm celeron is around my age too 05:35 cornernote then im an old fart :( 05:39 FreeFull cornernote: I'm 18 05:42 anunakki i'm 25 05:47 OldCoder cornernote, I am not under 18 :-) 05:47 OldCoder It does not seem so very long ago 05:48 GTRsdk note his name: OldCoder 05:48 hmmmm hah 05:48 hmmmm i doubt he's really that old 05:49 hmmmm you know how i know? he's here and playing minetest almost nonstop - that means no job 05:50 GTRsdk he could be old enough to not need a job anymore :D 05:51 hmmmm he certainly wouldn't be playing video games at THAT age 05:54 OldCoder Regrettably this is not the case 05:56 GTRsdk well... if I was that old... I might :D 05:56 OldCoder k 06:12 Kacey good landmine is gone 06:12 hmmmm how tall is the ceiling of the nether in minecraft? 06:13 Kacey good question 06:16 GTRsdk I'd find out 06:16 GTRsdk if I knew how to get there 06:17 hmmmm from the minecraft videos i've watched, you need 14 obsidian blocks and flint 06:17 hmmmm and obsidian is made by touching flowing water with a lava source block 06:21 Kacey-ubuntu i have a vm running xubuntu 06:21 Kacey yes i do 06:22 hmmmm nether seems really tough to generate without 3d perlin noise 06:22 Kacey-ubuntu coool 06:23 hmmmm i'd reaaaaaaaally rather not, especially for how huge the caverns are 06:25 Kacey-ubuntu i like x ubuntu 06:26 Kacey-ubuntu oldcoder are you online 06:26 hmmmm well, it's cheap, but here's what i have in mind: 1 2d perlin map for the floor height, 1 for the ceiling, 1 for the boundaries. when you come into contact with a boundary, another perlin map generates the Y-Z or X-Y area 06:26 hmmmm so that's 5 in total 06:26 hmmmm not too bad i guess, it's fast too 06:26 Kacey-ubuntu O.o 06:27 OldCoder Yes 06:27 OldCoder Kacey, Hi 06:27 OldCoder Kacey-ubuntu, Hello 06:27 OldCoder You got it working 06:27 Kacey-ubuntu i have a vm running xubuntu 06:27 OldCoder Congratulations 06:27 Kacey yes i do 06:27 OldCoder Remember to write down the pass this time? 06:27 OldCoder :-) 06:27 Kacey-ubuntu lol it logs me in automatically 06:27 OldCoder You can compile C programs and MT in there BTW 06:28 Kacey-ubuntu might do that hang on 06:29 Kacey-ubuntu brb 06:32 Kacey-ubuntu back 06:33 Kacey-ubuntu time to explor the possiblities of the os 06:33 OldCoder There are many 06:33 cornernote all your base are belong to us! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qItugh-fFgg 06:34 cornernote what happen? someone set us up the bomb 06:34 OldCoder ? 06:34 Kacey-ubuntu first off 06:34 Kacey-ubuntu wallpaper 06:34 cornernote OC, you have no time to look, i'll explain tomorrow 06:34 OldCoder cornernote, you mean YT? 06:34 cornernote yea 06:34 OldCoder Can't download it presently 06:35 OldCoder They changed the mechanisms 06:35 cornernote "all your base" 06:35 cornernote it was a HUGE internet fad 06:35 cornernote the likes of nyancat 06:35 cornernote theres a wikipedia page on it 06:37 ruskie OldCoder, just update youtube-dl if using that to the latest version and it works fine for downloading 06:37 cornernote what happen? 06:38 cornernote you have no chance to survive make your time 06:38 OldCoder ruskie, thank you 06:38 Kacey-ubuntu linux linux ooh how i love linux 06:39 cornernote Kacey - yeah, it can have its moments =) 06:39 cornernote like when you try for 3 days to do something on windows 06:39 cornernote then there is like 3 commands in linus that do it all for you 06:39 cornernote in 2.5 minutes 06:40 Kacey-ubuntu lol 06:40 ruskie heh 06:40 Kacey-ubuntu i need to learn it though 06:41 Kacey-ubuntu :-D 06:45 Kacey-ubuntu wallpaper changed 06:49 Kacey-ubuntu i sooo happy 07:00 Kacey-ubuntu lalalalala i love linux now 07:03 cornernote what's the best way to prevent death - http://nutritionfacts.org/video/uprooting-the-leading-causes-of-death/ 07:03 Kacey-ubuntu sit ona computer for your whole life 07:09 OldCoder Kacey-ubuntu, glad to hear it but what was the significant issue? 07:10 * OldCoder will return soon 07:10 Kacey-ubuntu oldcoder what do you mean 07:22 Kacey-ubuntu dobe dobe dobe do 07:22 cornernote hes really busy 07:22 cornernote might not get back to you right away 07:24 Kacey-ubuntu i know im just waiting on turbolinux.iso to download 07:24 Kacey-ubuntu O:-) 07:25 Kacey-ubuntu gonna chat with myself 07:25 Kacey hello me 07:25 Kacey-ubuntu hello 07:26 Kacey how si xubuntu going 07:26 Kacey is* 07:26 Kacey-ubuntu awesome 07:26 Kacey sweet 07:26 Kacey-ubuntu ya 07:26 * cornernote used to think he was crazy 07:26 Kacey lol 07:27 Kacey-ubuntu lol 07:27 Kacey-ubuntu wait till oldcoder sees this 07:27 Kacey hes gonna flip 07:31 Kacey come on turbolinux download already 07:31 Kacey-ubuntu ya it is boring sitting here 07:31 Kacey thanks for saying what was on my mind 07:31 Kacey-ubuntu np 07:32 Kacey cornernote gone insane yet? 07:32 cornernote you can watch this while you wait - https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=veqdm5zbggQ 07:32 Kacey-ubuntu have you yet 07:32 cornernote im way beyone insane 07:32 Kacey no i am for 07:33 cornernote im notuninsane 07:33 Kacey-ubuntu chatting withmyself 07:33 Kacey well you see 07:33 Kacey-ubuntu the voices have control now 07:34 Kacey to the point where 07:34 cornernote well, my voice is telling me that im not crazy 07:34 cornernote the voice in my head i mean 07:34 Kacey-ubuntu i no longer need a therapist 07:34 Kacey but a hostage negotiator 07:34 OldCoder Hi 07:34 Kacey-ubuntu hello 07:35 Kacey oldcoder 07:35 Kacey-ubuntu i have been 07:35 * OldCoder reads up 07:35 Kacey chatting myself 07:35 * OldCoder chuckles 07:35 OldCoder I C 07:36 Kacey-ubuntu once turbolinux downloads i am going to bed 07:36 Kacey very much so 07:36 Kacey-ubuntu im just downloading the iso 07:36 OldCoder good 07:36 Kacey tomorrow there will be 3 of me 07:36 OldCoder o? 07:37 * Kacey is hyper already 07:37 OldCoder i c 07:37 * Kacey-ubuntu is also hyper 07:37 OldCoder sees what 07:37 Kacey fail 07:37 OldCoder I once joined 07:37 OldCoder startups channel 07:37 OldCoder with a different copy of every chat program 07:37 OldCoder so that we could compare their merits 07:38 Kacey-ubuntu ooh god 07:38 OldCoder I was there is Irssi Coder, Quassel Coder, HexChat Coder etc. 07:38 OldCoder *as 07:38 OldCoder People talked of their favorite clients 07:38 OldCoder So 2 or 3 of you is nothing new :p 07:38 Kacey wait till i have 12 of me 07:38 cornernote one cornernote is enough 07:38 OldCoder I think Freenode has a limit below that 07:39 OldCoder thexyz, Hey 07:39 Kacey honestly i am no good with nicks though 07:39 OldCoder thexyz, quick question 07:39 OldCoder Kacey, nicks are easy picks 07:39 OldCoder So that you can fix 07:39 OldCoder Try a mix 07:39 OldCoder of nicks 07:40 thexyz OldCoder: ? 07:40 OldCoder thexyz, I wish to build your client under Windows but I need to disable MySQL LevelDB Boost. There is a switch for MySQL but does not work. No switch for the others. 07:40 OldCoder Comments if O.K. to ask please 07:40 Kacey i will be on tomorrow 07:41 thexyz OldCoder: mysql one should work 07:41 OldCoder thexyz, had trouble; but what about Boost and LevelDB? alternatively I will try to add Boost if you think I should 07:42 thexyz i'll make switch for it too 07:42 OldCoder t y 07:42 OldCoder document mysql off switch please i must have had it wrong 07:46 thexyz OldCoder: cmake -DMYSQL_BACKEND=0 07:47 OldCoder Yes 07:47 OldCoder I tried that; I will document errors next time 07:47 thexyz ok 07:47 OldCoder t y regarding Boost and LevelDB issues 07:47 OldCoder I may try to add Boost 07:47 OldCoder thexyz, what's your take on C55 upstream? 07:47 OldCoder They are merging patches now 07:47 OldCoder Will some of those come to you? 07:48 thexyz they've already came 07:48 OldCoder Good 07:48 thexyz https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commits/master 07:48 OldCoder so you remain the superior codebase :-) 07:50 Calinou in russia, minetest codes itself 07:50 OldCoder thexyz, I have promised to build NekoGloop a client with T_A_N_K dig animation patch. Will be easier with the new siwtches. 07:50 OldCoder Heh 07:50 Calinou hi :) 07:50 OldCoder Calinou, hello 07:50 OldCoder thexyz, Gameboom is inquiring regarding LevelDB 07:50 OldCoder They have a 4GB map; or had one 07:51 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/278 < why was this closed? 07:53 thexyz https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/279 07:53 thexyz Calinou: see diff 08:04 cornernote http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/31028_428741230522183_1906238961_n.jpg 08:16 Calinou cornernote: what? 08:18 Phvli baww, that's cute 08:18 Phvli makes me want to eat meat even more 08:18 celeron55 wtf #278 08:18 Phvli because without the demand we woudnt be breeding such a cute bunch of furry fellows 08:18 celeron55 i call that rape 08:30 cornernote celeron55, RBA was talking to me about that request 08:30 cornernote the reason was so that he could draw a full background for a formspec 08:31 cornernote Phvli, did you know that farming those animals is really bad for the environment ? 08:33 cornernote Rivers and underground aquafas that took millins of years to fill are now running dry. 08:33 cornernote It takes 50,000 litres of water to make 1kg of beef. 08:34 cornernote Emmisions from livestock are much higher than that of transport. 08:34 Phvli yeah but damn those things taste good when you but them in your mouth 08:34 redcrab Hi, Finally the server is still stable meanwhile the map db size is over 4.4 Gb.. No issue raise yet .. 08:34 cornernote so you like the taste of it, so that justifies it ? 08:35 Phvli why not? 08:35 Phvli people eat rice do they not? 08:35 cornernote using your argument, i could say "i like the sound it makes when a steal bar hits a childs head" 08:35 Phvli well attacking sentient beings is just plain wrong 08:35 cornernote ok 08:35 cornernote can you define sentient ? 08:36 Phvli a human? 08:36 cornernote i think you should read the meaning of it 08:36 cornernote Sentience is the ability to feel, perceive, or be conscious, or to have subjective experiences. 08:36 Phvli have you asked a cow if it experiences any of those things? 08:36 cornernote you think cows can't feel pain ? 08:36 cornernote i know cows feel pain 08:37 Phvli how do you know that? 08:37 cornernote ok, i believe they do 08:37 cornernote i dont know anything, nobody does 08:37 Phvli there you go 08:37 cornernote i believe they feel pain because... 08:37 cornernote they react the same as i do when i feel pain 08:37 cornernote why do you believe a human that is not you feels pain ? 08:37 Phvli i guess you dont believe a plant can feel pain? 08:38 cornernote perhaps, not sure... but i dont think they are sentient, but i could be wrong 08:38 cornernote i know that i'd rather go strawberry picking than smashing in the heads of cows 08:38 cornernote strawberrys grow back 08:38 Phvli so do cows 08:39 cornernote perhaps a plant that dies when you take its fruit... 08:39 cornernote like grain 08:39 Phvli yet people eat bread and porridge 08:39 cornernote id still rather pick grain then smash in the heads of cows 08:39 cornernote and you think thats wrong ? 08:39 Phvli suit yourself 08:39 cornernote i will, thanks 08:39 Phvli i prefer meat because of its taste 08:39 cornernote and you do the same 08:39 Phvli thank you :3 08:39 cornernote but i dont mind talking about it =) 08:40 cornernote welcome 08:40 cornernote do you think a cow is sentient ? 08:40 Phvli actually i do, but i dont caref 08:40 Phvli for all i know, a plant can be just as sentient 08:40 Phvli but mans gotta eat 08:40 cornernote i like truthful answers, thanks 08:41 cornernote would you eat a human ? 08:41 cornernote after all, a plant may feel pain 08:41 Phvli if there would be no other choice, id have to 08:41 cornernote so that justifies eating animals 08:41 cornernote no, if tehre were other choices 08:41 cornernote like there are with eating animals, you can choose not to 08:41 cornernote would you choose to eat a human ? 08:41 Phvli why not? 08:42 Phvli lets say the human is already dead when you eat it 08:42 cornernote have you eaten a human before ? 08:42 cornernote sure 08:42 Phvli cant say i have 08:42 cornernote road-kill human 08:42 Lumpio- wtf 08:42 Lumpio- cornernote 08:42 Lumpio- Have you been at this for 7 hours!? 08:42 Phvli well woulndt want it to go to waste 08:43 cornernote do you eat roadkill animal ? 08:43 cornernote or pick bugs off your bumper bar to eat ? 08:43 Phvli i have once. a rabbit 08:43 cornernote bugs havea lot of protein 08:43 cornernote very healthy aparently 08:43 Phvli it like to try a bug 08:44 cornernote would you eat road-kill that you didnt kill yourself ? 08:44 Phvli ive heard they are delicious when prepared right 08:44 cornernote you dont prepare them 08:44 cornernote they are dried from your drive int he sunshine 08:44 Phvli well i have eaten some ants 08:44 Phvli and of course i wont eat rotten meat 08:44 Phvli you wouldnt eat a week-old salad would you 08:44 cornernote all meat is rotten to some extent, from death it starts to decay 08:45 cornernote but i get what you mean 08:45 Phvli come on, once it is dead, its just food 08:45 cornernote i eat week old fruit all the time 08:45 Phvli it doens not mind what happens to it 08:45 cornernote fruit stays ripe and healthy a lot longer than decaying flesh 08:45 Phvli and fruit doesnt get bad in a week 08:45 cornernote some fruit, yes 08:45 cornernote some lasts over a month or more 08:46 cornernote depends how ripe it is when you buy it 08:46 Phvli so does a pig if you pour enough salt on it 08:46 cornernote and what fruit it is =) 08:46 cornernote oh yeah, and that sounds really healthy 08:46 Phvli well, tasty at least 08:46 cornernote fatty pork with saturated fats, covered in salt 08:46 Phvli aww you just made me hungry 08:47 cornernote just made myself thankful i dont eat that junk any more 08:47 cornernote bacon and eggs, with salt crap 08:47 cornernote heart-attack food 08:48 cornernote go right ahead and enjoy it Phvli =) 08:48 Phvli omnom 08:48 cornernote you don't seem to regard anyone's health or live above your taste, not even your own life 08:49 cornernote dont take that the wrong way 08:49 cornernote im not having a go at you, just an observation 08:49 Phvli why should i? there are plenty of other things that can kill me 08:49 cornernote like ? 08:49 Phvli like a plant gone frenzy 08:49 cornernote also, do you want to die sooner rather than later ? 08:49 Phvli you know, ne man-eating kind 08:49 Phvli the* 08:50 Phvli id like to live happy 08:50 Phvli and eating tasty food makes me happy 08:50 cornernote like this plant - http://www.whatsnextblog.com/feed_me.png 08:50 cornernote yeah, i guess thats a risk 08:50 Phvli but then again, its all about free will and choices 08:50 cornernote true, its very important that you inforce your choice on all other animals 08:50 cornernote sad the pig doesnt get a choice 08:51 cornernote but, thats your choice 08:51 cornernote and if someone with a gun decides to blow your head off, thats their choice 08:51 cornernote we all have free will that we can impose on others 08:51 cornernote sec, i have a quote about this that i like to share.. lemme try find it 08:52 * ruskie checks the chan name... hmm still #minetest... 08:52 cornernote ruskie, there is an /ignore command you can use 08:52 ruskie I hate to use it though 08:52 cornernote i wont be offended if you ignore me 08:52 Phvli why should a pig care anyway? 08:52 cornernote why do you hate to use it ? 08:53 Phvli take north korea for example 08:53 Phvli the peasants think they live in the best country in the world 08:53 Phvli so they are happy 08:53 cornernote Survival of the fittest and the hell with the rest is the philosophy of beastly thugs. You never know when that empathy vaporizes and you are looking down the barrel of a gun of a fellow thug who wouldn't give a rat's ass if your head gets blown off for his greater good. Brutality has no empathy. It only knows expediency. 08:53 ruskie because the ratio of useful stuff to crap tends to be high for useful crap in most cases 08:53 cornernote you mean the stuff i say ? 08:54 cornernote i dunno, i say a lot of useless crap sometimes 08:54 ruskie I guess I'm just tired of these vegeterian, non vegeterian arguments 08:54 Phvli i am enjoying this 08:55 Phvli though i am a vegetarian myself 08:55 cornernote why? have you experienced a lot of these arguments ? 08:55 ruskie yes 08:55 cornernote in here ? 08:55 ruskie no 08:55 cornernote im different 08:55 ruskie but in the ~90 other chans I'm in 08:55 cornernote trust me 08:55 cornernote i am the cornernote =) 08:56 cornernote Phvli, i really have trouble believing you, even after your outburst of honesty before 08:56 cornernote ruskie, im not here to enforce my will upon you 08:56 cornernote im not here to change your beliefs, or convert you to be a religous vegan 08:57 cornernote im just asking questions and making observations 08:57 cornernote if you can't stand the reality of my observations, best to /ignore me 08:57 Phvli cornernote: sure i am, just wanted to see how heated up youd get 08:57 Phvli but now ive gotta go 08:57 Lumpio- 10:56:55 < cornernote> im not here to change your beliefs, or convert you to be a religous vegan 08:57 Lumpio- Sure doesn't sound like it 08:57 Lumpio- ¬u¬ 08:57 cornernote , sorry i gave that impression 08:58 cornernote sorry that you mistook my observation for actually caring about anything you do 08:58 cornernote please understand, i dont know you, dont care about you, and don't care what kill to eat 08:59 cornernote however i am interested in observing human behaviour 08:59 cornernote so if i seem interested in you personally, please remind yourself of the above 09:00 Gwaur lal 09:00 cornernote plus, when there is controversey being discussed, more people watch the channel 09:00 cornernote people i have never heard on in MT are getting involved in the chat, which is great 09:01 ruskie cornernote, sadly the difference between these observations and what most zealots tend to use as arguments is nearly indistinguishable 09:01 cornernote i not saying im not arguing... of course im arguing 09:01 cornernote im just not trying to CHANGE you 09:01 cornernote go change yourself, or be the same, i dont care 09:01 ruskie frankly I have no issue with either really since I'm me and only things I decide for myself will change me 09:01 cornernote i just like to debate ir 09:02 jin_xi sup guys 09:02 cornernote hey jin_xi 09:02 ruskie it's just that I've seen way to many in to many places 09:02 jin_xi sorry to interrupt but i'd like to present an idea, hoping for collaborators :) 09:02 cornernote ruskie, you have no issue with either? with either of what ? 09:02 jin_xi i have this idea about a retro jump and run style minetest_game 09:03 cornernote how rude, itterrupting our non-MT talk to talk about MT things 09:03 cornernote :) 09:03 jin_xi would need some serious work tho, i can hopefully code most of what it needs, but i cant do textures well 09:03 cornernote i dont do textures, so im out .. sorry 09:03 cornernote i might be able to help with ideas or maybe code 09:04 jin_xi but what would you think about that: a mostly custom world, featuring "levels" which allure to some 8 bit games 09:04 ruskie cornernote, with either observation or trying to argue me over 09:04 jin_xi like you start in a smb2 themed corner of the world, with smb2 mobs that you can pick up and throw 09:04 cornernote jin_xi, what sorts of games ? 09:05 jin_xi nes games mostly, mario bros 1-3, sonic and the like 09:05 cornernote 2d ? 09:05 cornernote like 1 block deep 09:05 jin_xi no, in mt blocks 09:05 jin_xi 3d levels, maybe use invisible walls 09:05 cornernote yeah, but 1x blocks deep? to make it seem like a platform game ? 09:06 jin_xi no, not necessarily 09:06 cornernote i dont get it 09:06 jin_xi maybe for some sonic "run like hell" passages 09:07 cornernote ruskie, thats great, you make your own decisions 09:07 cornernote but, do you really? or have you just conformed to tradition and society ? 09:07 jin_xi http://www.jaymug.com/post/13919915067/super-mario-world-map something like this 09:08 jin_xi you know, really change up mt game mechanics 09:08 cornernote like the mario map before you get into the game ? 09:08 cornernote the "level chooser" screen 09:08 jin_xi really i'll probably make a ? block that spawns coins if you jump under it 09:09 jin_xi yes, it would need something like a map screen 09:09 jin_xi i hope someday we can define key handlers from lua and do whatever we like with them :) 09:09 cornernote hrmm, i think with current MT engine it wont be as rapid-pace as the mario/sonic games 09:10 cornernote but really interesting concept 09:10 jin_xi no, not as rapid as sonic for sure, but i think it could be fun 09:10 cornernote i think you need to define a list of nodes/items you need 09:10 cornernote once you have that, punch it onto the forums and point out any nodes/items you want help coding 09:11 cornernote or textures 09:11 jin_xi ok, that sounds like a good plan 09:11 cornernote once you got all that, its just a matter of making an adventure map 09:11 jin_xi maybe i try to flesh out the idea a bit 09:12 cornernote one thing i had a lot of trouble with when building a level-based game (skyblock)... 09:12 cornernote what to give the player as a reward ? 09:12 cornernote because most things can be crafted 09:12 jin_xi points? highscore list fame 09:12 cornernote i think a reward should be fun and useful 09:12 jin_xi i'd disable crafting of course 09:12 cornernote and/or 09:13 cornernote eg, give them a trampline, and then remove the craft for trampoline 09:13 cornernote and then they need that trampoline to get to the next area 09:13 cornernote not exactly that, but you get where i am coming from 09:14 jin_xi idk, if in some level you need to place trampolines, you'd be able to, but it would definitely not be a real sandbox game 09:14 cornernote i'd love a non-snadbox MT game 09:14 cornernote where there is a way to complete the level, and you have to figure it out 09:15 jin_xi a flagpole and a castle for some, a boss for others... it would need a lot of custom lua, but thats ok 09:15 cornernote Phvli still here ? 09:16 jin_xi or a timelimit and autoscrolling, but i dont think that is doable yet 09:16 Phvli cornernote: nope, went away 09:17 Phvli and im serious 09:20 cornernote jin_xi, can i go back to ranting now ? 09:20 jin_xi sure 09:20 cornernote thanks 09:20 cornernote http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/149451_282286211866350_588502251_n.jpg 09:21 jin_xi hmm, with kikkoman 09:21 cornernote oh, this ones really good - http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/541986_288407974579536_73339613_n.jpg 09:21 cornernote get the whole family involved ! 09:22 cornernote how old u rekon that kid is ? 09:22 cornernote like 6 ? 09:22 cornernote maybe younger 09:22 cornernote and the schools say they dont want kids learning about slaughter houses... this kid seems fine with it 09:23 jin_xi well, this is manual work 09:23 jin_xi much more easy to stomach than industrial scale slaughtering 09:23 cornernote perhaps, but in this country they have no regulations 09:23 cornernote and poor equipment 09:24 cornernote is almost definate the animal will suffer through its long and painful death 09:25 cornernote the community these people live in, their grain is sold to western countries to feed fat cows: http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/536228_10150714213864084_1027045922_n.jpg 09:26 cornernote is there any flesh on that boy, or is he just 100% bones ? 09:26 cornernote or is it a girl 09:26 cornernote who knows 09:26 thexyz aww, should I kick him or whatever? 09:26 cornernote kick who ? me ? 09:26 cornernote or the kid ? 09:26 thexyz yup 09:26 cornernote in the pic 09:26 cornernote oh me 09:26 cornernote why ? 09:27 thexyz because. 09:27 cornernote go ahead 09:27 cornernote if it makes you feel better 09:27 thexyz your "trolling" (or whatever it should be called) is just stupid 09:28 cornernote im discussing, do you want me to stop ? 09:28 cornernote perhaps just asking me to stop would be a more fiendly way to get me to stop 09:28 thexyz yes 09:28 cornernote may i ask why? 09:29 thexyz nope 09:29 cornernote do you often ask ppl who are discussing to stop? 09:29 thexyz you're discussing unrelated things here 09:29 cornernote or is it the topic i choose to discuss ? 09:29 thexyz that too 09:29 zloy hello guys 09:29 cornernote many people discuss unrelated things here.. if someone wants to talk MT then I will stop and talk MT, as i did when jin_xi asked a question 09:30 cornernote so is it the topic i choose to discuss, or are you sticking with it being unrelated ? 09:30 thexyz cornernote: you produce too much text 09:30 thexyz please, stop 09:30 thexyz *unrelated text 09:30 cornernote how much am i allowed ? 09:30 cornernote i didnt know there was a limit 09:31 cornernote wow, i never been told in a chatroom that i was creating too much text 09:31 cornernote how much unrelated am i allowed ? 09:31 cornernote i will keep within the limits 09:43 OldCoder celeron55, VanessaE, thexyz, I'd like to request ChanServ privs so that I can mute instead of kick or ban. It provides another useful option. 09:44 OldCoder I will wake up in about 4 to 5 hours probably 09:44 Calinou you can +q if you have op 09:44 OldCoder Oh? 09:44 Calinou /mode +q 09:44 OldCoder No chanserv needed? 09:44 Calinou /mode -q 09:44 OldCoder Hmm 09:44 Calinou mute and unmute respectively 09:44 OldCoder Ha 09:44 Calinou that'll mute anyone with name bacon :P 09:44 OldCoder wish I'd know that yesterday 09:44 OldCoder *known 09:44 Calinou it's a freenode addition 09:44 Calinou (espernet has that too) 09:44 OldCoder Helpful 09:44 thexyz still, kick just works 09:45 OldCoder Calinou, t y 09:45 OldCoder Several things got out of hand yesterday 09:45 OldCoder Sure 09:45 thexyz OldCoder: ? 09:45 OldCoder thexyz, LM was here 09:45 OldCoder It needs to be handled with some care 09:46 OldCoder Calinou, thanks for info. thexyz If you update let me know; I look forward to building new clients and servers. 09:47 thexyz OldCoder: ok 09:47 OldCoder I am so tired; Hell of a weekend 09:47 OldCoder Zzz 09:52 celeron55 on most irc networks a ban without a kick is mute 09:52 celeron55 but whatever 09:55 Calinou you can't rejoin if you're banned but not kicked 09:55 Calinou with a quiet, you can 09:55 Calinou both prevent nick changes while you're banned/quieted on a channel, and prevent using quit/part reasons too 09:58 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3281 rofl 12:09 jin_xi oh, lol http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3628 12:09 jin_xi butthurt much? 12:23 celeron55 jin_xi: cornernote got pissed off and burned out 12:24 jin_xi looks like it. 12:24 celeron55 ^ official news right there 12:24 celeron55 i talked to him and there's no big drama left anymore; he'll be just gone 13:01 Phvli seems like big drama to me 13:01 Phvli then again i have no idea what you guys are accustomed to 13:01 Phvli perhaps i should lurk more around here 13:02 jin_xi oh well, slacktivism gone wrong 101 13:48 Taoki Got a code question. Is there some function to check if a ClientActiveObject is there any longer? I'm currently checking it the pointer to a CAO is NULL, but if the referenced object is removed while the pointer is not made null I get bad memory reads, so I need another way to read it 13:52 Taoki [15:49:53] Issue is like this: I have two objects, X and Y. Using a declaration (like *z), X references and uses Y. Then Y is removed without being able to inform X of it. X then needs to check that Y is still valid, and nullify the *z pointer if not 14:16 klunk salut/hello 14:16 OdnetninI hi 14:17 RealBadAngel celeron55, #278 was my 1st commit, i made a mistake so closed it and make it right with #279 14:18 klunk hi OdnetninI 14:18 klunk I'm just here, nothing to ask .. 14:18 OdnetninI how are you 14:18 klunk nice, thanks, but not completely 14:19 klunk I mean I 'm not a gamer but Ilike comunauty, shring code, discuss, that bullshit, you know ? 14:20 klunk *sharing code, so that I read, I learn ... ;-) 14:20 OdnetninI O good 14:21 OdnetninI i'm i gamer and i programmer 14:21 OdnetninI i'm a* 14:21 OdnetninI Are you good at codding? 14:23 klunk Not at all, I'm just "arduining" and artisanaly batch scripting (with pein) 14:23 klunk I usually think I 'm better in human stuff ... 14:24 klunk I'm a lot here because 'I'm not (myself problem I agree) totaly easy with what hapened with cornernote. 14:25 OdnetninI talk at the chat i open 14:25 OdnetninI up-right, OdnetninI 14:26 klunk yes I search it 14:26 OdnetninI at the up, you have: Status #minetest .... OdnetninI 14:27 OdnetninI click at my name 14:37 RealBadAngel hi everybody 14:37 RealBadAngel whats up? 14:39 OdnetninI nothing 15:16 Kacey hello 15:17 babyface1031 hi Kacey 15:17 Kacey you missed it last night 15:19 RealBadAngel hi babyface1031, seen your message here from some time ago. im not female ;) 15:19 babyface1031 sorry D: 15:19 RealBadAngel no problemo 15:20 RealBadAngel just FYI 15:22 Kacey-ubuntu hello 15:22 Kacey ooh hi me 15:22 Kacey-ubuntu hows life 15:22 Kacey boring 15:25 Kacey there is two of me 15:29 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 15:31 Kacey hello adam 15:31 PilzAdam hi Kacey 15:31 Kacey-ubuntu hello adam 15:32 Kacey turbo ;inux didnt work 15:35 PilzAdam what the hell is going on with cornernote? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=50892 15:36 Kacey idk 15:36 jin_xi he's butthurt because he got kicked for spamming (animal) gore 15:36 Kacey ooh 15:38 thexyz he also deleted all his minetest github repos 15:38 Kacey O.o 15:39 PilzAdam thexyz, the water in minetest/minetest repo is broken 15:39 thexyz PilzAdam: i've already fixed it 15:39 thexyz PilzAdam: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/ece3564634779e581e693f7fec77c13697a68a0a 15:40 PilzAdam okay, will try that later 15:41 Kacey anybody know where to get a prebuilt and compiled minetest for ubuntu 15:41 PilzAdam Kacey, minetest.net -> downloads -> ubuntu 15:41 PilzAdam it links to a ppa 15:42 PilzAdam search on the internet for how to add a ppa 15:42 Kacey but none are complide 15:42 PilzAdam they 15:42 PilzAdam they are 15:42 Kacey i cant find minetest.exe in them 15:42 RealBadAngel lol 15:42 dzho Kacey: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=minetest 15:42 PilzAdam well, ubuntu does not use .exe 15:43 dzho which is to say, if you are using any current release of Ubuntu, there's a version in the "universe" repository. 15:43 dzho so, you can get it straight from Canonical's servers. 15:43 Kacey aah what does it use then 15:44 PilzAdam executable files 15:44 RealBadAngel in directory /bin you will find MT executables 15:44 RealBadAngel minetest and minetestserver 15:44 Kacey aah 15:44 PilzAdam Kacey, i recommend to read something about Linux and Ubuntu 15:44 RealBadAngel on linux the file has just a flag, if it can be run 15:45 RealBadAngel .exe style comes from old MS-DOS times 15:46 Kacey i cant find bin folder 15:46 Kacey :'( 15:46 RealBadAngel what have you downloaded? 15:46 RealBadAngel compiled game or the sources? 15:47 Kacey probablt the sources 15:47 RealBadAngel so hold on 15:49 Kacey dhzo all i saw was 0.3.1 15:50 PilzAdam Kacey, you know how to use the terminal? 15:50 PilzAdam or CLI 15:51 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, i will explain him everythin 15:51 PilzAdam k 16:00 jin_xi so someone requested CTCP DCC from me CHAT chat long ass numbers... whats that? 16:01 RealBadAngel like what? 16:04 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, next: dont allow images be bigger than the inventoy: http://www.zimg.eu/i/389831804 16:07 Jordach hey jin_xi 16:07 Kacey i just compiled minetest 16:07 PilzAdam sup Jordach 16:07 Jordach hey PilzAdam 16:09 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, sure thing i do know invsize 16:10 Jordach whats cornernote done this time? 16:10 jin_xi_ hmm, seems like webchat cant do dcc 16:10 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, come to #minetest-dev 16:10 jin_xi but im now on irssi as well 16:10 jin_xi so try again? 16:14 Calinou irssi -- the vim of irc clients 16:14 jin_xi_ i'm not very good at irc 16:32 Kacey_ hello 16:34 Kacey hahahah 16:35 * Jordach needs to order most of my folders 16:35 Kacey xubuntu is there anything you cant do? 16:36 Jordach take all of Apple's money? 16:36 * Jordach considers getting Windows 8 16:37 Kacey dont get winshit 8 i mean windows 8 16:37 * PilzAdam slaps Jordach for thinking about Windows 8 16:37 Jordach PilzAdam - the future is not Linux 16:37 PilzAdam wrong, it is 16:37 Kacey the future is either linux or SOS 16:37 Jordach PilzAdam MS will change UEFI to lock Linux out 16:37 Jordach since Linux is not a business 16:38 Kacey SOS is 16:38 PilzAdam the future will show... 16:38 Kacey SOS as the Superior Operating Sysetem 16:40 Jordach thexyz http://www.planetminecraft.com/blog/superiority---why-it-shouldnt-exist/# 16:41 * VanessaE peeks in 16:41 * Kacey is playing with SOS 16:41 PilzAdam hi VanessaE 16:42 thexyz Jordach: ? 16:42 Jordach because no one here should have full power 16:42 Jordach make a vote 16:43 * VanessaE turns her power down a bit 16:43 VanessaE ;) 16:44 PilzAdam :D 16:44 RealBadAngel Kacey: is the game working? 16:44 Kacey yes 16:45 thexyz Jordach: c55 is the only one who has "full power" 16:46 thexyz oh, well, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=50951#p50951 16:47 Calinou PilzAdam MS will change UEFI to lock Linux out 16:47 Calinou press F8 or whatever the key is at boot 16:47 Calinou secure boot > off 16:47 Calinou ??? PROFIT 16:48 Jordach Calinou, like it or not: the world will end up using tablets permanently 16:49 thexyz Jordach: nope 16:49 Calinou what when you want to actually work? 16:49 Calinou tablets are for entertainment 16:49 Jordach and what is gaming 16:50 Jordach entertainment 16:56 Calinou * Jordach considers getting Windows 8 16:56 Calinou lol... 16:56 Calinou Jordach> PilzAdam - the future is not Linux 16:56 Calinou it is 16:56 Jordach Calinou - windows xp has three years 16:56 Jordach i better upgrade, to a os that likes my legacy apps 16:56 Calinou wine does 16:56 Jordach but shitty 16:56 Calinou facepalm 16:57 VanessaE the future is already here, and it is Linux, vis a vis Android. :-) 16:57 Calinou don't critisize wine because it 1) doesn't work for a specific very recent app 2) because it ports windows libs to linux 16:57 Calinou android aka "can i keylog u" :) 16:57 Calinou (ios isn't better either :P) 16:58 Jordach http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=50962#p50962 16:58 * PilzAdam finally got his tea 16:59 Jordach PilzAdam food or drink? 16:59 PilzAdam drink 16:59 Jordach yeah, tea! 17:00 PilzAdam at the morning i drink coffee, at tea time i dink tea 17:01 Jordach we need a god damn off topic / hall of shame forum area 17:01 thexyz Calinou: i didn't know android keylogs me, where can i obtain the logs? 17:01 PilzAdam Jordach, +1 17:01 Jordach see http://minecraftforum.net 17:01 Calinou thexyz: google.com 17:01 Jordach sections for everything 17:02 Calinou sanctions for everything 17:03 thexyz Calinou: even if someone has no gapps installed? 17:03 thexyz actually, i thought this http://minetest.net/forum/viewforum.php?id=3 is an offtopic section 17:04 PilzAdam thexyz, but there are 1% not off-topic posts 17:05 thexyz oh! those should be considered as offtopic (in terms of offtopic section) 17:07 Calinou thexyz: some gapps can't be removed without using custom ROMs, right? 17:08 Jordach my tablet has no gapps 17:09 Calinou then it has vendor crapware, not better :p 17:09 Jordach nope, just email, browser, music, video, pictures and ebooks 17:09 Jordach (and my irc client) 17:14 thexyz Calinou: i'd better say that some roms come without gapps by default 17:14 thexyz for example, cyanogenmod 17:14 celeron55 by the way, anyone who has cornernote's mods should put them for upload in their original threads 17:15 celeron55 because he happened to delete everything that he can control 17:15 celeron55 this, my friends, is why i have disabled deleting topics on the forum. sometimes people just go plain crazy 17:16 celeron55 s/for upload/for download/ 17:17 mauvebic with no maintainers people are just gonna make their own versions though? 17:17 celeron55 also it sucks that there is no revert function in the forum software 17:18 celeron55 mauvebic: most likely, but not if the originals aren't available anywhere 17:18 mauvebic what about the ones he had on github? 17:19 Jordach mauvebic clone em now 17:19 PilzAdam they are deleted 17:19 Jordach actually most of cornernotes mods are in OldCoder's builds 17:20 babyface1031 what can you do with pine needles 17:20 mauvebic could also be in some of the game clones 17:20 mauvebic minetest_game variants 17:21 mauvebic you cant delete stuff from ompldr either 17:21 celeron55 names of cornernote's mods: bookmarks_gui, craft_guide, towntest, hill_nodebox, bags, deploy_nodes, armor, no_mapgen, worldedit_gui, workbench, dye_craft, inventory_plus, particles, home_gui 17:21 celeron55 plenty 17:22 Jordach i can remake no_mapgen 17:22 PilzAdam i can readd particles 17:22 celeron55 you can probably find full git forks of those in google 17:22 VanessaE https://sites.google.com/site/cornernote/minetest 17:22 VanessaE or just go there. 17:23 celeron55 they link to github 17:23 celeron55 worthless 17:23 VanessaE shit, good point 17:23 mauvebic setup a poll thread, see who downloaded his mods recently, and get them to put them back up 17:23 celeron55 that's a fork of inventory_plus: https://gitorious.org/lpgc-minetest-mods/inventory_plus 17:24 VanessaE well you still get all the descriptions, craft info, screenshots, and such 17:24 VanessaE so not totally worthless. 17:24 celeron55 i think he'll pull that site down when he realizes it's still up 17:24 PilzAdam particles: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=50973#p50973 17:25 celeron55 somebody take a 1 link deep backup with images 17:25 Calinou "this, my friends, is why i have disabled deleting topics on the forum. sometimes people just go plain crazy" < people can put anything instead of the topic, thus "deleting" the topic... 17:26 Jordach celeron55 , while youre here, can we have a hall of shame or some off topic forum 17:26 mauvebic people can delete the sources too depending on where they uploaded it 17:26 VanessaE celeron55: backup in progress now. 17:33 thexyz PilzAdam: thanks, reuploaded http://mods.minetest.ru/particles/ 17:34 celeron55 also does someone have the source of minetest-game_wiki 17:34 VanessaE well I got all the content anyway. 17:35 celeron55 i think nobody might have forked that on github 17:35 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/extra/cornernote/minetest/ 17:36 VanessaE that'll at least preserve all the content aside from the actual code. 17:36 mauvebic i cant imagine the fit he'll throw when he sees everything back up though lol 17:37 mauvebic if you cant find a backup of the inventory thing i might be able to fix up my inventory mod to do the same 17:40 VanessaE oh sure, now firefox doesn't want to properly display the files. fuck it. you guys can figure out how to fix that :-) 17:41 mauvebic unicode/utf render maybe? 17:41 VanessaE who knows. firefox displays the files fine locally but not when fetched from my webspace. 17:42 VanessaE probably an issue with my web space assuming the wrong filetype or something. 17:42 Kacey i am the who when you call who's there 17:44 Kacey VannessaE landmine is sometimes ggetting on under the username TheSlim 17:44 Kacey sThe SlimShady 17:44 VanessaE on where? the forums? 17:44 Kacey no irc 17:44 VanessaE I can't control what he does or what nick he uses, except if he shows up here. 17:44 Kacey he shows up on irc 17:45 VanessaE "IRC" can be anything - there are hundreds of servers and tens of thousands of channels. 17:45 Kacey kkkkklkkklkklklklkjhgfdsaaaasdfghjkllllllllllll;;;;;;;''''''''''''''''''''''' 17:45 VanessaE only a few are minetest related. 17:45 Kacey lol 17:45 Kacey he shows up on this channel and calls people out 17:46 mauvebic for being communists? 17:46 Kacey qwertyuiop[]\asdfghjkl;' 17:46 VanessaE haha 17:46 Kacey idk 17:46 thexyz VanessaE: http://minetest.net/forum/admin/reports.php 17:46 Kacey qwertyuiop[]\asdfghjkl;'zxcvbnm,./ 17:47 VanessaE er, ok 17:47 Kacey vanessa have you met Kacey-ubuntu yet 17:48 OldCoder Hello 17:48 VanessaE no I have not 17:48 Kacey oldcoder it isnt right that turbolinux didnot work 17:49 OldCoder Kacey, Isn't right? 17:49 OldCoder Hang on I slept very late and am just waking up 17:49 Kacey lol 17:49 OldCoder It was quite a weekend 17:49 OldCoder Usually wake up before 6:00am 17:49 Kacey i was downloading turbolinux for my vm but it didnt work sooo ya 17:50 Kacey vanessa he is my vm personality bot thing 17:51 OldCoder Looks productive today. celeron55 VanessaE thexyz I wish to call ChanServ guard on to protect the channel. Does one of you have the privs for this or may I have them? ChanServ may offer other options I'd like to have to manage discussions. Yesterday was over the top. 17:51 OldCoder Hours of debate about cows and then what some of you saw happen after that. 17:52 * OldCoder shrugs 17:52 Kacey haha the meat argument and i said bacon 17:52 OldCoder Good morning 17:52 OldCoder Kacey, How is your VM ? 17:52 OldCoder VanessaE, Kacey is a 'C' coder now 17:52 VanessaE cool. 17:52 celeron55 VanessaE: i did the backup properly; uploading now 17:53 VanessaE celeron55: ok 17:53 VanessaE I'm sure I missed something minor. 17:53 celeron55 (yours is just completely screwed up and useless) 17:53 Kacey my vm is confused i cut when i should have copied 17:53 sinekonata wow that's a lot of people on a single chatroom 17:53 celeron55 the size of this is roughly 50M 17:53 celeron55 hmm... there are some useless zips in here though 17:54 VanessaE fine, deleted my copy. 17:54 babyface1031 good morning @OldCoder 17:55 Kacey ooh i just noticed that celeron55 was chatting 17:55 OldCoder babyface1031, Hi 17:55 Kacey Kacey-ubuntu is going to get on in a few secs 17:56 Kacey vm has to start first 17:57 Kacey oldcoder do not go crazy when he chats with me 17:57 Kacey-ubuntu hello me 17:58 Kacey ooh hi vm must have started correctly 17:58 Kacey-ubuntu yep 17:58 Kacey oldcoder like my bot thing 17:58 Kacey-ubuntu im no bot 17:58 Kacey-ubuntu i am a BOT 17:58 Kacey aah that is right 17:59 sinekonata hi guys I just joined minetest.net. is there a channel for general questions and noobs or is this it? 18:01 VanessaE this is it. 18:01 VanessaE and don't be scared off by certain...less than savory individuals. 18:01 VanessaE :-) 18:01 Kacey-ubuntu landmine lol 18:01 sinekonata Hey you're the multi-mod girl... hi 18:01 OldCoder Kacey, I am still reading up 18:02 Kacey well of course my BOT would say landmine 18:02 VanessaE Kacey-ubuntu: I didn't name any names :-) 18:02 OldCoder sinekonata, there is also the forum 18:02 VanessaE sinekonata: yeah, I've done my share anyway :--0 18:02 VanessaE :-) 18:02 Kacey-ubuntu well then 18:02 sinekonata yeah ok thanks 18:03 * Calinou unites Kacey-ubuntu and Kacey. UNITY! 18:03 Kacey the BOT is self aware 18:04 Kacey-ubuntu you got that right 18:06 Kacey downloading new bot 18:08 Kacey ooh oldcoder rba helped me compile minetest on my vm 18:08 * VanessaE kicks the bot. hard. 18:08 VanessaE :-) 18:09 OldCoder Kacey, great 18:09 * Kacey-ubuntu kicks back through the internet 18:09 Jordach VanessaE - not enough 18:09 Jordach we need to NUKE IT WITH THE NUKE MOD! 18:09 Kacey ya 18:09 VanessaE take off and nuke it from orbit. it's the only way to be sure. 18:09 Kacey-ubuntu internet being here 18:10 * Kacey-ubuntu kicks Kacey off 18:10 Kacey-ubuntu i win 18:11 thexyz does anybody else have any cornernote's mods backups? 18:11 OldCoder thexyz, Explain 18:11 OldCoder I have not finished reading up 18:11 thexyz OldCoder: he deleted everything 18:11 OldCoder Because of last night? 18:12 OldCoder I am sorry to hear it 18:12 OldCoder Hold on a minute 18:12 VanessaE I have some of his stuff, though I don't quite remember which of these are his, let alone how recent they are 18:12 OldCoder Wait 18:12 thexyz OldCoder: you seem to have plenty of his mods 18:13 VanessaE (duh. *checks cornernote's website*) 18:13 OldCoder I have bags home_gui inventory_plus node_owner (which we may not use) towntest 18:13 OldCoder Does that help? 18:13 thexyz OldCoder: yep 18:13 thexyz OldCoder: are those up-to-date? 18:13 OldCoder I will put them all online 18:13 OldCoder Will all of my other mods 18:13 Kacey-ubuntu from my search cornernote's website is no longer up 18:13 OldCoder Over the next few days 18:13 OldCoder I wish to write a script 18:13 OldCoder That will automatically post every mod that I have 18:14 OldCoder I have armor too 18:14 OldCoder But it is broken and not recommended 18:14 thexyz OldCoder: are those git "clones" or zip/tar-balls? 18:14 Kacey-ubuntu or his site says go veg 18:14 VanessaE looks like I just have craft_guide and particles 18:14 Kacey-ubuntu kacey took over 18:14 OldCoder They are zipballs but easy to convert back to git 18:15 OldCoder For particles shouldn't PilzAdam version be used? 18:15 thexyz OldCoder: that's bad (and i don't want to convert them) 18:15 OldCoder thexyz, bad? Regardless I will make the mods available 18:15 rubenwardy What is this Cornernote nonsence? 18:15 thexyz OldCoder: there's no need in particles mod, PilzAdam has already uploaded it 18:15 rubenwardy nonsense? 18:15 thexyz OldCoder: yep, but anyway, better than nothing 18:16 OldCoder thexyz, that is my point; I have a PilzAdam version 18:16 thexyz OldCoder: thank you 18:16 OldCoder of particles I mean 18:16 OldCoder Sure 18:16 OldCoder It will all go online this week 18:16 OldCoder Whenever I rebuild my worlds, a full set of mods will appear 18:16 VanessaE rubenwardy: the short version, he and thexyz got into an argument where *both* were in the wrong by the end of it, and cornernote "took his bat and ball and went home". 18:16 OldCoder There were hours of discussion yesterday 18:16 OldCoder I had 90 pages of legal papers to write 18:17 OldCoder But hours of cows meat debate 18:17 OldCoder Then Slim Shady was bored 18:17 OldCoder Then more cows 18:17 thexyz VanessaE: was I wrong? 18:17 OldCoder O_o 18:17 Kacey-ubuntu check cornernote.net and you can see the result 18:17 VanessaE thexyz: you didn't have to kick him, you could just as easily have used /ignore 18:17 OldCoder I'd like to try mute 18:17 thexyz VanessaE: how could that help other users? 18:17 OldCoder I didn't want to kick and I didn't have ChanServ privs 18:17 OldCoder Calinou has shown me what to do 18:18 ruskie heh 18:18 thexyz well, anyway 18:18 VanessaE it wouldn't have, but invariably your overreaction only served to hurt the community. 18:18 OldCoder I spent an hour with him just talking quietly trying to moderate the cow issue 18:18 OldCoder All wasted I gather 18:18 Kacey-ubuntu well i used to have cornernote's 4 bit decoder to 7 segment display using mesecons 18:19 OldCoder Kacey-ubuntu, used to? Didn't you just arrive here? 18:19 OldCoder Or was this elsewhere? 18:19 * OldCoder shrugs 18:19 OldCoder Doesn't mattere 18:19 OldCoder *r 18:19 OldCoder O.K. 18:19 Kacey-ubuntu it is kacey i overpowered the bot 18:19 OldCoder I'll organize my mods collection 18:19 Kacey-ubuntu had to change code on it 18:19 OldCoder thexyz, I remain interested in building your latest stuff under Windows 18:20 Kacey-ubuntu it got waaaay to aware and powerful 18:20 OldCoder I may try to add Boost there 18:20 thexyz OldCoder: yep, I'll update it 18:20 OldCoder thexyz, Did you say that LevelDB doesn't actually need Boost? 18:20 thexyz OldCoder: you may also try to remove boost from cmakelists.txt 18:20 OldCoder Yes 18:20 OldCoder celeron55, Hey 18:20 thexyz linux version builds fine without it 18:21 Kacey-ubuntu i feel so bad 18:21 Kacey-ubuntu i had something to do with cornernote's leaving 18:22 VanessaE hi neko 18:22 NekoGloop ^w^ 18:22 Kacey-ubuntu hello neko 18:22 * Kacey-ubuntu is Kacey right now 18:22 NekoGloop Why is everyone so suddenly nice...? 18:22 Kacey-ubuntu cornernote left 18:23 * VanessaE clobbers NekoGloop over the head with an alatro pick 18:23 VanessaE better? 18:23 VanessaE :-) 18:23 NekoGloop haha 18:23 thexyz VanessaE: yep, that's my fault, but do you mean i shouldn't kick him because he's so nervous? 18:23 NekoGloop Why an alatro one? 18:23 Kacey-ubuntu why not mese 18:23 NekoGloop Why not evil? :D 18:23 thexyz and has developed many mods, isn't everybody equal? 18:23 VanessaE thexyz: I mean you shouldn't kick him because it didn't have to end that way. 18:23 OldCoder thexyz, I'd have muted him 18:24 NekoGloop May I ask who we mean? 18:24 OldCoder Not kick, but a brief mute 18:24 OldCoder NekoGloop, cornernote 18:24 VanessaE NekoGloop: didn't want to be evil :-) 18:24 OldCoder I'd have muted you NekoGloop and Slim Shady briefly as well 18:24 thexyz OldCoder: i think mute is even worse 18:24 NekoGloop Ah, thought something was missing. 18:24 OldCoder thexyz, Is it? He might have reacted better 18:24 OldCoder If it was brief 18:24 OldCoder A kick is an ejection 18:24 NekoGloop It was the slander of my taste for meat. 18:24 thexyz because after kick you can simply rejoin 18:24 OldCoder A brief mute is a pause 18:24 OldCoder thexyz, A kick can be taken badly 18:24 VanessaE thexyz: not everyone interprets a kick as temporary 18:25 thexyz and what if you forget to unmute someone? 18:25 OldCoder Oh yes! 18:25 OldCoder thexyz, that is important. I've seen people get muted for weeks. 18:25 thexyz that's even worse 18:25 OldCoder If it happens, yes 18:25 OldCoder But yesterday... 18:25 thexyz VanessaE: non-temporary kick = ban 18:25 NekoGloop get a hostname change and a different nick. 18:25 OldCoder I had 90 pages to write. Instead, hours of cows and the rest 18:25 NekoGloop Mute == not useful. 18:26 VanessaE thexyz: technically, of course. but that does not mean that kick == temporary to every single person out there. 18:26 NekoGloop OldCoder: you may have more focus if you exit out of IRC. 18:26 thexyz VanessaE: yep, I've already understood that some people are nervous here 18:26 * Kacey-ubuntu is feeling so bad 18:26 NekoGloop I think this channel can run itself. 18:26 OldCoder NekoGloop, you are hardly the one to lecture after yesterday :-) 18:26 * Kacey-ubuntu said bacon and made cornernote flip even more 18:27 OldCoder NekoGloop, I will focus today on the build you wish 18:27 NekoGloop OldCoder: alright. 18:27 VanessaE thexyz: think of it this way - if you were to go off on some tirade, justified or not, wouldn't you be more than a little pissed at being kicked out? 18:27 Kacey back 18:27 NekoGloop Upstream git with just t_a_n_k's animation built well, except was slow. 18:28 NekoGloop was likely slow simply because compiler was shit ;) 18:29 thexyz VanessaE: I wouldn't 18:29 rubenwardy I reckon Cornernote was in the bad part of the month. He could be back soon. 18:29 * Kacey just swung a cactus at the tv because of campaign ads 18:29 NekoGloop Kacey: lol? 18:30 Kacey anger needs props 18:30 Kacey hang on vm starting itself 18:30 Kacey freaking bot 18:30 VanessaE thexyz: most people, when in the middle of such a tirade that they feel justified in going on about, would be upset. 18:31 VanessaE you could just have ignored or muted him. 18:31 Kacey ok back 18:31 thexyz it sounded too much like trolling 18:31 Kacey that bot is smart 18:31 NekoGloop he -is- trolling. 18:32 NekoGloop cornernote was attempting to do what lm does and be the center of attention. 18:32 VanessaE instead you kicked him, and now you see the result - over two dozen resources destroyed. 18:32 NekoGlooptroll hello 18:32 NekoGloop VanessaE: eh? 18:32 VanessaE NekoGloop: cornernote deleted everything of any use from what I can see. 18:32 VanessaE at least all his mods. 18:32 OldCoder NekoGlooptroll, please don't be argumentative 18:33 thexyz VanessaE: you think he'd not delete everything after mute? 18:33 NekoGloop I have some backups. 18:33 OldCoder thexyz, He'd have allowed me to mute him briefly 18:33 OldCoder I told him I was considering it 18:33 NekoGloop Inv+, bags, home pos, and armor. 18:33 VanessaE thexyz: probaly not. 18:33 OldCoder This is water under the bridge now 18:33 VanessaE probably* 18:33 OldCoder NekoGloop, I have your armor patch 18:33 cornernote_ hello 18:33 OldCoder cornernote_, that is a distraction 18:33 thexyz anyway, how's that related? didn't that deserve a kick? 18:34 VanessaE speak of the devil 18:34 cornernote_ a distraction 18:34 VanessaE no, it did not deserve a kick. 18:34 NekoGloop Anyone have bookmarks GUI? 18:34 OldCoder Yes 18:34 VanessaE er, missed the nick change there. hi kasey. 18:34 OldCoder Kacey, maybe settle down 18:34 VanessaE kacey even* 18:34 thexyz VanessaE: then what does deserve it? 18:34 Kacey lol oldcoder missed it too apparently 18:35 OldCoder Kacey, I did not 18:35 Jordach Kacey - that might end uo with you being kicked 18:35 Kacey aah 18:35 OldCoder Kacey, that is why I addressed you 18:35 OldCoder Moving forward... 18:35 Kacey close window start vm done 18:35 OldCoder We have the mods though not in git form 18:35 VanessaE thexyz: not having read the entire conversation, which as I've seen is hours long, I'd have to say harassing people, calling names, racial slurs, etc. 18:35 NekoGloop Can i have Bookmarks GUI? 18:35 Kacey brb 18:35 VanessaE and unless he's gone totally off the deep end, I don't see cornernote doing that. 18:35 OldCoder NekoGloop, you can have all my mods 18:36 OldCoder I am sorting through things 18:36 NekoGloop VanessaE: he even removed the useless one: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3281 18:36 OldCoder Exhausted. I ended up writing 100 pages. 18:36 Jordach please, what was his ip 18:36 VanessaE I mean shit, this whole discussion right *here* is offtopic to a degree. Should we all be kicked now? 18:36 thexyz VanessaE: k, remembered, animal gore does not deserve a kick 18:36 VanessaE thexyz: no one forced you to click on the links he posted. 18:37 OldCoder thexyz, VanessaE I will be bold and say you both have points. I was *not* going to kick him. But I *was* going to mute him. It is worth debate over time. Not too much focus is called for I think. 18:37 NekoGloop cornernote actually stayed awake all that time? 18:37 NekoGloop no wonder he got so pissed. 18:37 OldCoder He read my documents 18:37 Kacey-ubuntu i have taken over 18:37 thexyz VanessaE: does that mean one can post links to anything? 18:38 Kacey freaking bot 18:38 thexyz like goatse or whatever 18:38 VanessaE thexyz: no, of course not. 18:38 OldCoder Here's another point. For an established member I'd try PM first. I spent a lot of time with him in PM. 18:38 VanessaE don't start with the strawman arguments. 18:38 thexyz i just can't understand 18:39 NekoGloop I cant understand why you havent shut up. 18:39 VanessaE thexyz: had he posted links to illegal, pornographic, etc. content then sure a kick might be in order. 18:39 Kacey i cant understand how this bot got so smart 18:39 Kacey i mean i made him afterall 18:39 VanessaE animal gore? doesn't look any worse than some of the shit I've seen on TV and in the movie theaters. 18:39 OldCoder NekoGloop, Do you mean me, VanessaE, or thexyz ? Again, you are hardly in a position to lecture after yesterday. Are you? They are talking very mildly compared to yesterday. 18:39 VanessaE Kacey: no one MAKES someone do something lest they put a gun to their head. 18:39 Jordach Kacey - please do not interfere 18:40 VanessaE oops, misread that again. 18:40 Kacey no i mean i made Kacey-ubuntu afterall 18:40 OldCoder I am proceed with mods and builds 18:40 OldCoder I will comment on this thread if need be but I think it's time to move on 18:41 Kacey-ubuntu i am back 18:41 VanessaE Kacey-ubuntu: pick a name and stick with it already :-) 18:41 thexyz VanessaE: ok, remembered, animal gore is ok 18:41 thexyz i'm sorry 18:41 OldCoder cornernote may speak with me. If he does, I will speak with him. 18:41 Kacey-ubuntu GET OFFA MY COMPUTER!!!!!! 18:41 OldCoder thexyz, don't end it on that note 18:41 VanessaE thexyz: no, animal gore is not "okay", but it is also not worth being kicked for. 18:41 Kacey deleted him finally 18:41 OldCoder Kacey, I will do my first kick if you do that again too soon 18:42 Kacey didnt you already kick cornernote? 18:42 OldCoder Kacey, No. I was going to mute him. 18:42 VanessaE thexyz: there is such a thing as a happy medium. It doesn't have to be all-or-nothing. 18:42 OldCoder We were discussing it. 18:42 NekoGloop Since obviously this channel is just shit now, there's no reason to be here, is there? 18:42 Kacey aah well im off to delete an annoying bot 18:42 NekoGloop So, why dont you all leave? 18:42 OldCoder NekoGloop, one last time for you: You aren't in a position to judge. Relax and let me make a client for you. 18:42 * Kacey[A] is now away - Reason : bot being stupid 18:43 VanessaE NekoGloop: some of us are trying to un-shitify it. 18:43 thexyz VanessaE: so next time i should mute him/whoever, right? 18:43 VanessaE thexyz: yes. 18:43 thexyz ok 18:43 NekoGloop How am i not in a position to judge? 18:43 OldCoder thexyz, No. it is your decision. Instead you should consider options and possibly PM people. 18:43 Kacey as i said close window reopen 18:44 Kacey but i am going to be off for a while 18:44 VanessaE the offender can always message someone when he/she wants a second try. 18:44 OldCoder thexyz, You are not obligated to do what VanessaE wishes. At the same time it is respectful to consider her views. 18:44 OldCoder celeron55, Hey 18:44 NekoGloop The point i was arguing before is that people can do as they wish while respecting the wishes of others. 18:45 Kacey vm starting up again 18:45 OldCoder Kacey, If you can't control the "bot" there will be repercussions 18:45 babyface1031 wow i must of missed alot yesterday i think i might watch irc a lil more so i am not lost 18:46 OldCoder babyface1031, It was lively :-) 18:46 VanessaE babyface1031: you'd be surprised how much takes place while you' 18:46 OldCoder How am i not in a position to judge? 18:46 VanessaE you're away :-) 18:46 OldCoder NekoGloop, I believe you suffered a memory loss 18:46 Kacey i am deleting this vm right now so i can make sure 18:46 OldCoder Nothing more need be said about it 18:46 VanessaE that does it, I'l building a little dam between my ' and Enter keys. 18:46 OldCoder But you are most certainly not in a position to judge odd behavior today 18:47 NekoGloop I'm not judging odd behaviour. 18:47 OldCoder Fine 18:47 thexyz OldCoder: that's why i was asking for her opinion 18:47 OldCoder thexyz, You are correct and I meant no disrespect 18:47 NekoGloop I'm telling people to agree to disagree. 18:47 OldCoder thexyz, I was referring to one thing you said and it does not matter 18:47 Kacey ok deleted 18:47 OldCoder I am mostly pleased that this discussion seems friendly 18:47 VanessaE NekoGloop: great. Now, what do you say we order in meat lovers pizza and chicken wings? ;-) 18:47 Kacey i no longer think it was a bot but a virus 18:47 NekoGloop Sure. 18:48 NekoGloop VanessaE: looks like he deleted github repos as well. 18:48 VanessaE NekoGloop: yeah :-/ 18:48 Kacey check his website 18:48 OldCoder Would anybody like to provide their copies of his mods 18:48 Jordach Kacey - please stop with the story changing 18:48 NekoGloop he has a point 18:48 OldCoder I am organizing my own set as soon as this discussion is over 18:48 NekoGloop although I've not the slightest idea what his website's domain was. 18:49 Kacey cornernote.net 18:49 NekoGloop https://sites.google.com/site/cornernote/minetest 18:49 NekoGloop download links are to github though. 18:49 NekoGloop dammit. 18:49 * Kacey[A] is now away - Reason : going off to swing a cactus angrily because i need to 18:50 NekoGloop why are the good coders always dicks. 18:50 VanessaE Kacey[A]: for future reference, it is sometimes considered bad form to use /away (and associated messages). 18:50 Calinou NekoGloop: this is the answer to life. 18:50 VanessaE well I'm a good coder, and surely not a dick, so... :-) 18:51 NekoGloop No, that's 42. 18:51 VanessaE NekoGloop: nono, 42 also includes the universe and everything - Calinou is only referring to life. 18:51 VanessaE :-) 18:51 NekoGloop ah. 18:51 NekoGloop so 24? 18:52 Calinou 11000 isn't the answer to life :| 18:52 rubenwardy (6:36:10 PM) NekoGloop: VanessaE: he even removed the useless one: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3281 18:52 rubenwardy That was my favourite one! 18:52 OldCoder Did he take down the API? 18:52 OldCoder He'd asked me to host it 18:53 OldCoder Another few days and it would have been in place 18:53 rubenwardy "404 not found" 18:53 rubenwardy dont you have backups? 18:54 NekoGloop ... shit. I just realized that then skyblock just went poof. :P 18:54 Jordach OldCoder has the mods 18:54 NekoGloop I know. 18:54 Kacey[A] i have skyblock 18:55 rubenwardy I have bookmarks_gui and Inventory_plus, any use to anyone? 18:55 Kacey wait nvm i deleted skyblock 18:55 thexyz rubenwardy: yep 18:55 NekoGloop "just won't put up with admins who want to take power trips." HAHAHAHAHAHA 18:55 NekoGloop rubenwardy: bookmarks please. 18:55 rubenwardy http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3632 18:55 rubenwardy She probably mean make them WTFPL 18:56 rubenwardy wait, it is on my Ubuntu partition 18:56 thexyz rubenwardy: can you upload both? are they up-to-date? 18:56 rubenwardy brb 18:56 rubenwardy i will upload them 18:56 rubenwardy I downloaded a week ago 18:57 OldCoder If anybody has mods provide them to me 18:57 OldCoder Mirror is in progress 18:58 NekoGloop OldCoder: /mode +q username right? 19:01 OldCoder NekoGloop, why do you ask? 19:01 NekoGloop curious. 19:01 OldCoder O.K. Moving forward: rubenwardy yes I'd like any mods you have 19:01 OldCoder I am preparing to post a cornernote mirror 19:01 OldCoder NekoGloop, hold on 19:01 OldCoder Does anybody wish to share their copies of the mods? 19:01 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/mods/cornernote 19:02 OldCoder Thank you! 19:02 OldCoder NekoGloop, ^ 19:02 NekoGloop bags, inv+, home pos? 19:02 NekoGloop got those? 19:02 OldCoder yes but I will take what you or others have 19:02 OldCoder to synchronize 19:03 NekoGloop My versions are guarenteed to be old xD 19:03 OldCoder Still a good idea 19:03 NekoGloop well cornernote did what i tried to do, just did it more successfully. 19:03 NekoGloop =) 19:03 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: herro thar 19:03 OldCoder T_A_N_K, Hi 19:03 T_A_N_K hilo 19:04 PilzAdam hi T_A_N_K 19:04 PilzAdam T_A_N_K, can you pull request your digging animation to the main repo? 19:04 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: got any of cornernote's mods? 19:04 thexyz PilzAdam: why don't you just cherry-pick it 19:04 OldCoder I have summoned ChanServ 19:05 OldCoder Welcome Oh Mighty ChanServ! 19:05 NekoGloop lol 19:05 T_A_N_K i just came from #morphos and they charge more money for an operating system (without telling the user on their main website) for old outdated PowerPC machines (100 dollars) than windows 7 64 bit (89 dollars) 19:05 OldCoder ChanServ I beseech thee: Guard this channel! 19:05 PilzAdam thexyz, it looks better if it gets merged from T_A_N_K's repo 19:05 T_A_N_K i discovered i was using a demo os about 30 minutes in, had no idea, SUPRISE! 19:06 T_A_N_K hi, yes, and yes 19:06 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: good because he's deleted them. We need copies. 19:06 T_A_N_K Why did he delete them? 19:06 OldCoder NekoGloop, if you can post your old copies of the mods. They'll go into an "obsolete" section 19:06 NekoGloop kk 19:06 OldCoder T_A_N_K, the meat battle 19:06 NekoGloop also "also, a revolution is coming..." 19:06 NekoGloop he said that here: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3420 19:07 OldCoder T_A_N_K, have any copies of his mods? 19:07 OldCoder We now have more options for configuring this channel BTW 19:07 T_A_N_K i have his computer thing 19:08 OldCoder Post it please 19:08 T_A_N_K also the main problem with a community, is a community lol 19:08 OldCoder Yes 19:08 NekoGloop computer thing? 19:08 NekoGloop :o 19:08 OldCoder He's a good guy as many of us are; it's about working things out 19:08 T_A_N_K I have only one comment to post there lol 19:08 NekoGloop nah, he has an ego the size of the planet, that's all. 19:08 OldCoder thexyz, VanessaE if you have any of his mods post them and I'll sort through everything 19:09 T_A_N_K Lmao, there, i ended the entire revolution 19:09 NekoGloop lol 19:09 NekoGloop OldCoder: http://ompldr.org/vZzVtdA 19:09 OldCoder NekoGloop, t y 19:10 Kacey i need to make a new bot but not right now 19:10 OldCoder Yep 19:10 thexyz rubenwardy: thanks, mirrored to http://mods.minetest.ru/ 19:10 Kacey not meaning to be distracting 19:10 OldCoder Kacey, really bad I.D. to push that right now 19:10 ruskie what do you need a bot in here for? 19:10 OldCoder *idea 19:10 OldCoder I don't know if he's telling the truth 19:10 T_A_N_K finally, TF2 style teleporters http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3631 19:10 OldCoder But bots can be useful 19:10 OldCoder Kacey, you are playing, I assume 19:11 OldCoder Not right now, please 19:11 Kacey and terrible (Kacey-ubuntu) 19:11 NekoGloop thexyz: why do i not have that bookmarked. 19:11 Kacey no im not playing im just lazy 19:12 thexyz NekoGloop: because i'm too lazy to update it often ^^ 19:12 NekoGloop ah. 19:12 OldCoder i have his computer thing 19:12 OldCoder T_A_N_K, may I have a copy? 19:12 thexyz NekoGloop: btw, why does your directory "bags" contain another "bags"? 19:12 thexyz which one is more recent? 19:13 NekoGloop thexyz: the one in the modpack 19:13 NekoGloop I'm too lazy to remove the version from before he made it a modpack. 19:13 thexyz ok 19:13 T_A_N_K Sure, let me just a kgljdfsglkj ubuntu and i'll post it for download 19:14 NekoGloop I find it funny he thinks he offended me with his opinion. 19:14 sinekonata Hey I have a question does the //suppress command from worldedit not work? 19:14 NekoGloop He offended me by shoving his opinion on everyone else. 19:14 NekoGloop sinekonata: there is such a command? 19:14 T_A_N_K supress?! 19:14 NekoGloop < hasnt updated worldedit in months. 19:14 T_A_N_K World edit needs to use for statements not while statements 19:15 NekoGloop ^ an exaggeration 19:15 NekoGloop fucking ninja posts. 19:15 T_A_N_K for statements allow the server to do things in between, while just halts the server completely 19:15 T_A_N_K If world edit used for statements it could be run on creative servers without much lag 19:15 sinekonata according to Chat Commands.md there is a suppress 19:16 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: wouldnt worldedit itself be slower though? 19:16 rubenwardy what shall I do now... 19:16 NekoGloop rubenwardy: make me a ham sammich 19:16 NekoGloop 8D 19:16 T_A_N_K no lol, i was doing extreme experiments with flatmap world gen in creative mode, so while statements made the whole server lag and for statements is what i ended up using for speed 19:16 Kacey aah crap i found what made Kacey-ubuntu evil 19:17 T_A_N_K world edit can only go as fast as the server 19:17 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: good. 19:18 Kacey dr pepper and keyboards do not mix well 19:18 OldCoder Nope 19:18 NekoGloop Anyone have the infinite chest? 19:18 T_A_N_K my keyboard runs on dr pepper 19:18 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: Mine runs on mtn dew. 19:18 Kacey lol mine freaks out with it and makes bots evil 19:19 Kacey mtn dew feuls me 19:19 T_A_N_K Here, spam his twitter if you want lol v 19:19 T_A_N_K https://twitter.com/cornernote* 19:19 thexyz oh fuck, i've just realised i had missed most part of that conversation with cornernote 19:19 thexyz well, that's just stupid 19:20 OldCoder T_A_N_K, were you serious about a "computer thing" 19:20 T_A_N_K yea, his craft guide 19:20 OldCoder k 19:20 thexyz seems he was bitten by some vegan(s) 19:21 celeron55 http://celeron55.nfshost.com/misc/cornernote_googlesite.tar.gz <- full 33MB backup of https://sites.google.com/site/cornernote/minetest 19:21 celeron55 will be down after a while, so whoever wants it can grab it 19:21 NekoGloop celeron55: downloads were on github. 19:21 celeron55 umm.. 35MB 19:21 NekoGloop so that is useless 8) 19:21 celeron55 it has all the mod descriptions and crafting recipes and images 19:21 OldCoder Downloaded 19:21 thexyz NekoGloop: still useful 19:21 T_A_N_K Why did cornernote flip out lol 19:21 NekoGloop celeron55: good point. 19:22 OldCoder T_A_N_K, long story 19:22 NekoGloop although code not be there 8) 19:22 OldCoder I'll have all of this up in a bit 19:22 T_A_N_K I'll recode all of his mods MWAHAHAHA 19:22 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: happen to have infinite chest? 19:22 T_A_N_K just kidding i don't got no time for that, and sure i'll make one 19:22 T_A_N_K Enderchests 19:22 NekoGloop nonono 19:22 OldCoder Reposting periodically today: Anybody who has cornernote mods or API material please provide it to me 19:22 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: i mean this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3053 19:23 T_A_N_K Can i have the short story of why cornernote left? 19:23 OldCoder T_A_N_K, Yesterday was tiring for him... 19:24 T_A_N_K How so 19:24 NekoGloop because he tried pushing his opinions onto us and we didnt let him. 19:24 celeron55 and then thexyz kicked him out quite arbitrarily 19:24 OldCoder T_A_N_K, He worked with me on about 90 pages of legal material. He had two long battles over meat eating. He simply couldn't approach those discussions calmly. He engaged Slim Shady at my request. He didn't sleep. 19:25 OldCoder Time for him to rest a bit 19:25 thexyz T_A_N_K: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-11-05#i_2611407 19:25 NekoGloop dont call him slim shady 19:25 NekoGloop call hime landmine 19:25 NekoGloop him* 19:25 OldCoder NekoGloop, Don't go there 19:25 OldCoder NekoGloop, Order and Chaos can be discussed another time 19:25 NekoGloop why call him a false name? 19:25 T_A_N_K Lol that's fucking retarded 19:25 NekoGloop OldCoder: the hell are you talking about? 19:25 OldCoder NekoGloop, I don't think we'll go there today. I'm exhausted. 19:26 OldCoder NekoGloop, Not being argumentative. 19:26 OldCoder NekoGloop, you and Slim Shady assumed the roles of Order and Chaos yesterday. For about an hour. 19:26 OldCoder I'm not going to go there again this week 19:27 OldCoder I have the large cornernote tarball 19:27 OldCoder Preparing a website now 19:27 OldCoder T_A_N_K, if you have a craft guide dig it up thank you 19:27 T_A_N_K Oh slim shady? Slim shady isn't anything but a porkless bitch who has to assume his sexual purposes of trolling the internet in the darkest corners imaginable 19:27 OldCoder T_A_N_K, we should focus on moving forward with mods and patches 19:27 T_A_N_K aka he's probably some random fatguy sitting on a crate, giggling, or other things, about how annoying he's being 19:28 T_A_N_K why do you guys even care about what he says? 19:28 OldCoder Right now I care about organizing data 19:28 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: that was Landmine 19:28 OldCoder celeron55, thank you for the tarball 19:28 NekoGloop 19:28 T_A_N_K yes, that's my point 19:28 OldCoder T_A_N_K, find the guide if you have it 19:28 T_A_N_K why do you guys even care? 19:28 OldCoder T_A_N_K, I'll write about it but not for a couple of years I think 19:29 NekoGloop because incompetent people wouldnt just ban him? 19:29 OldCoder NekoGloop, kitty... 19:29 T_A_N_K use the ignore button 19:29 * OldCoder pauses 19:29 NekoGloop what ignore. 19:29 T_A_N_K it's there for this purpose 19:29 NekoGloop [14:29] == IGNORE Unknown command 19:29 OldCoder NekoGloop, Read the logs. And what the nick NekoGloop said. 19:29 T_A_N_K http://xchat.org/ 19:29 T_A_N_K Has ignore button, even though it's shitty 19:30 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: riiiigh. 19:30 NekoGloop dont care. 19:30 OldCoder NekoGloop, you assumed the role of Order. Indicated that Order would destroy Chaos, which you identified as the other person. You spoke at length about this. Connected it to a movie about serial killers. 19:30 * OldCoder stops 19:31 NekoGloop yes i got to that point 19:31 OldCoder I am preparing the mirror site 19:31 NekoGloop Alice Human Sacrifice isnt about a serial killer. 19:31 OldCoder All right 19:31 NekoGloop Its about people having the same dream and dying therein 19:32 Taoki OldCoder: Hello 19:32 OldCoder Taoki, Hello! 19:32 OldCoder Pleased to see you 19:33 Taoki Same :) Hope everything has been well 19:33 OldCoder Taoki, It has been lively :-) 19:33 OldCoder How are you today? 19:33 Taoki That's good 19:33 Taoki Not too well, code issues and stuff too 19:33 OldCoder Go on 19:33 OldCoder I am working on MT but I can chat 19:33 T_A_N_K ubuntu 10.04's security is strange, i don't have read permissions to a file on my other hard disk,so i sudo'd nautilus then zipped the folder, then dragged it to my desktop and unzipped it, so i can read it 19:34 Taoki OldCoder: I have a general C++ issue with the MT code. Basically, I need to use a weak_ptr somewhere, but MT doesn't have one, nor does it have boost or c++11 (who have this ttype) 19:34 T_A_N_K https://dl.dropbox.com/s/zrp8xhcrpgeqwd2/craft_guide.tar.gz?dl=1 19:34 OldCoder Taoki, oh; you mean MT issues 19:34 OldCoder T_A_N_K, t y 19:35 T_A_N_K np 19:35 Taoki Yesh, but a general c++ question 19:35 thexyz T_A_N_K: thanks 19:35 T_A_N_K no prob 19:35 Taoki OldCoder: I need it for the following case: Let's say I have object X and object Y. X has the pointer *z which points to object Y. But Y gets removed, and X and its pointer *z can't be informed of it. If for X I try to do z->getSomething() I then get a segmentation fault 19:35 Taoki So I need a way to check if *z still points to a valid object 19:36 Taoki But that can only be done with weak_ptr I'm hearing 19:36 OldCoder Taoki, All right. I should comment but I am not able to do so at this time. I ask you to forgive me. 19:36 RealBadAngel http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/scr2b.png/ 19:36 OldCoder R 19:37 OldCoder RealBadAngel, That screen is blank for me 19:37 Taoki OldCoder: It's ok. Help is appreciated but I don't want people to force themselves to work on something if they can't, so no worries 19:37 Taoki RealBadAngel, thexyz: Do you know what I can do by chance? 19:37 celeron55 Taoki: an alternative is to store a reference to the other object as an unique id of some sort 19:37 Taoki I've been driving people nuts on #c++ I think :P 19:37 celeron55 instead of a pointer 19:38 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: MV Furnace? 19:38 Taoki Yeah, that's a lot harder from what I can think of now 19:38 celeron55 and fetch the other object based on the id from some managery thing 19:38 RealBadAngel http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7279/scr2b.png 19:38 RealBadAngel try this link 19:38 Taoki celeron55: I'm currently trying to use something like std::tr1::weak_ptr m_attachment_parent(new ClientActiveObject); 19:38 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: will it be an alloy furnace and normal furnace combined? 19:38 Taoki But I'm not sure how consistent that is 19:39 celeron55 weak pointers aren't a magic cure; you also need a shared_ptr or so for the original object reference 19:39 Taoki I see 19:39 celeron55 which isn't how they currently are stored, which means you need to change things 19:39 RealBadAngel geez, look at the INVENTORY :) 19:40 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: any chance of making craft_guide technic compatible? 19:40 thexyz if somebody has some mods from that list: towntest, hill_nodebox, deploy_nodes, armor, no_mapgen, worldedit_gui, workbench, dye_craft, feel free to upload them somewhere 19:40 Taoki Problem is I was getting a lot of segmentation faults. With some tools I found out it's because although I check m_parent != NULL, not being null doesn't mean it points to a valid object any longer. And C++ makes it very hard to test validity of a pointer 19:40 Taoki I'll try to use a different change then, not sure how :/ 19:41 NekoGloop Also, RealBadAngel: Make diamonds spawn just a tad bit higher, please. I dont want to dig -that- much for diamonds. 19:41 celeron55 i'd just make objects have unique ids and refer to them with those 19:41 Kacey i cant stand all this cornernote talk 19:41 NekoGloop Bad enough i have to dig that far for mithril. 19:41 NekoGloop Also, I've thought of a new recipe for the craft guide. 19:41 Kacey what does diamond ore look like 19:41 NekoGloop Is anyone interested? 19:42 NekoGloop Kacey: looks like blue. 19:42 NekoGloop :P 19:42 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, bout diamonds its already done 19:42 RealBadAngel go somwhere else to dig for them 19:42 rubenwardy reading the logs... funny argument, i am sorry 19:42 Kacey everything looks like blue to me 19:42 Taoki celeron55: I can use getId on CAO objects I think. But, does it still prevent a bad memory read if I do ->getId() on an object with an ID no longer there? 19:42 PilzAdam can someone test this farming mod? https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/tree/farming 19:43 OldCoder PilzAdam, It will go into your fork server 19:43 Kacey celeron55 i need to know how to register a bucket of stuff with lua but i think i found it so nvm 19:43 celeron55 Taoki: you don't use it that way 19:44 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: And, for fuck's sake, let me plug my machines in how I WANT. not how your stupid rules dictate. 19:44 celeron55 Taoki: you need to think differently 19:44 OldCoder Taoki, I wish to work and can do so. Right now is an interesting period. 19:44 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, no way, sides r reserved for pneumatic tubes 19:44 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: fine then 19:44 Taoki OldCoder: If you wish to work on MT code, help with models would be appreciated lots. I can describe the problem in more detail if you wish 19:44 NekoGloop I will make this mod actually make sense. 19:45 PilzAdam gtg; bye 19:45 celeron55 Taoki: instead of a pointer, you always instead store the id, and always when you want to access the object pointed to by the id, you fetch it from somewhere using the id 19:46 Taoki celeron55: The problem is fetching it from somewhere using the ID, while checking the object is still on the server 19:46 Taoki erm, client 19:46 Taoki As this is a client-side problem 19:46 celeron55 then "somewhere" knows if it actually still exists or not, and can return NULL if it doesn't, and your code knows it is no more 19:46 Taoki right 19:47 celeron55 the client environment can do that fetch for you i think 19:47 Taoki I use ->getID() but am not sure how that knows of an invalid ID 19:47 Taoki Maybe it returns NULL automatically 19:47 Taoki * getId() 19:47 celeron55 ...no. 19:48 Taoki Need to think how to solve that one part then 19:49 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCOExcjM-GE&feature=related 19:50 celeron55 u16 id = object_known_to_exist_for_now->getId(); [... unknown stuff ...] ClientActiveObject *object_now = client_environment->getActiveObject(id); 19:50 Taoki Wait, sorry, not getId is what I was thinking of. I made a confusion, it's another one... *looks 19:50 Taoki yes, getActiveObject 19:50 Taoki That was the one 19:50 celeron55 you'll run into some trouble because the ids tend to currently be quickly reused with different objects though 19:51 celeron55 the id "generator" needs a bit of tweaking 19:51 Taoki I assume getActiveObject does know to return NULL if you give it an invelid object ID at that time 19:51 celeron55 yes 19:51 Taoki I think I can solve it then 19:53 celeron55 in environment.cpp there is getFreeServerActiveObjectId() 19:53 NekoGloop minetest.register_craft({output = 'craft_guide:lcd_pc',recipe = {{'default:steel_ingot'},{'xpanes:pane'},{'stairsplus:slab_stone'}}}) 19:54 NekoGloop celeron55: if i may, upstream minetest_game should use groups better. 19:54 celeron55 you need to add "u16 m_next_id" or similar to ServerEnvironment and increment it always (and always skip 0 (the undefined object id) on wrap-around) so that they practically never get reused 19:54 celeron55 or... something 19:55 NekoGloop For example, the steel_ingot should use groups={ingot=1,steel=1} 19:55 NekoGloop etc. 19:55 Jordach my pc became a radiator 19:55 NekoGloop Would set a better standard, thus letting people like me who want, for example, any ingot to work for making a certain thing, possible. 19:56 NekoGloop for an example of the use of this: minetest.register_craft({output = 'craft_guide:lcd_pc',recipe = {{'group:ingot'},{'group:glass'},{'group:slab,stone'}}}) 19:57 NekoGloop < is as usual being ignored with good ideas. 19:57 Jordach they are good uns 19:58 Taoki celeron55: Yeah... my code expects that a CAO has the same ID as its SAO variant 19:58 Taoki Might have to fix that next if it's more complex 19:58 NekoGloop Jordach: except that noone is listening. :P 19:58 Jordach Taoki - bit off more than you can chew eh? 19:58 Taoki Jordach: There are issues I didn't expect, I'm trying to see what can be done 20:00 Jordach ohhh 20:00 Jordach my pc internal temp: 80'c 20:00 NekoGloop haha 20:00 OldCoder Hi 20:01 OldCoder Taoki, I will PM you in the next week or two and discuss schedule. Right now I am preparing a cornernote site. Yesterday I needed to write 90 pages of documents. That plus other events have left me exhausted. You and I will talk. 20:01 Jordach thats what hypixels herobrine map does 20:02 Jordach You and I will talk. - that sounds like a movie quote 20:02 Taoki OldCoder: Sure. Thanks :) 20:02 * OldCoder shrugs 20:02 Taoki hehe 20:02 Jordach Xonotic: Y U DOWNLOAD AT 1.2Mbs s/sec 20:02 OldCoder Jordach, when I am tired I am more different or talk more formally or oddly. You of all people would understand why. 20:02 Jordach yep! 20:03 OldCoder Taoki, over time I *will* assist 20:03 OldCoder It is what I have always done in this world 20:03 Jordach OldCoder - i was fiddling around with a Kindle today, they are great, but i want a backlight :P 20:03 Taoki I might finish the code till then. Which is good... what matters is doing it soon enough (especially until more code comes in and I might get GIT conflicts... those scare me a lot :( ) 20:04 Taoki But I appreciate someone likes to help so much :) 20:04 Jordach git conflicts? 20:04 thexyz NekoGloop: that was already suggested by c55 20:04 NekoGloop so why not fix it? 20:04 Taoki Jordach: It's when someone makes other code and that code causes yours to require modifications, cuz it intersects with your additions in GIT 20:04 NekoGloop after all, it's -his- repo./ 20:04 Jordach oh. thats evil. 20:04 * Jordach checks c55/minetest# 20:05 OldCoder Jordach, Kenneth isn't going to help :p 20:05 Jordach i want a damn backlight!! 20:05 OldCoder Jordach, he isn't going to be pleased about the 90 pages :D 20:05 Jordach (lamps are not fun at midnight) 20:05 Taoki OldCoder: Also, I sorta know that feeling. Sort of. I don't have a job yet and don't know when and if I will (due to my mental state). I spend time doing random stuff all day, and among that is contributing to open-source software. Although I put a lot of effort on codes like this one, some still look at me as "a leech". But, I'm partly used to it by now... 20:05 Jordach OldCoder YAY! 20:05 OldCoder Taoki, Leech?! WTF? 20:06 OldCoder Taoki, you are usually cheerful, you try to learn, and you've offered to contribute. You are rated A+ 20:06 Taoki Just how I think some people look at me as. And usually at anyone who doesn't have a job. It's a common thinking :( 20:06 Jordach OldCoder i think Taoki's mental state pushed our welcome to the club button 20:06 Taoki Thank you. I appreciate there are people like you who think that way :) 20:06 OldCoder Taoki, That is all rubbish. Please put it aside. 20:06 OldCoder The negative part I mean 20:06 Taoki I shall try 20:06 OldCoder All right 20:07 Jordach Taoki - you mean the menal side, then yes, you be like me and OldCoder 20:07 Jordach +t 20:07 OldCoder Is he? 20:07 OldCoder I had not assessed that part 20:07 OldCoder Seems quite normal and positive 20:07 Jordach remember, everything must end with a closed paren 20:07 * Taoki admits to feeling weird at hearing positive things said about me. Not really used to them and all... I appreciate it ^_^ 20:07 Jordach dammit perl 20:08 Taoki I mean I'm used to hearing them sometimes, but not really thinking of them to be true. Eh.. 20:08 OldCoder Taoki, relax and understand that you can be who and what you wish here; or online in general 20:08 Taoki Just wonder what I'll do when my "father" won't give me money any more to "sit aat a computer in mom's basement all day long" (actually my room but that's a saying hehe) 20:09 OldCoder Jordach, we can discuss the Kindle stuff in PM. It is quite off-topic. But I've done something that will make you laugh. If you remember my brother's name try it as a domain. 20:09 OldCoder Don't post it here 20:09 Jordach yes, i quite like eating "scottish haggis" rather tasty :P 20:09 Taoki Will probably be like those bad guys in games; I'll have a "base" in the sewers lol 20:09 * OldCoder laughs out loud 20:09 OldCoder Taoki, Sewers? 20:09 Jordach Taoki - xonotic? 20:09 Taoki Nah, not the case, but still worried sometimes 20:09 OldCoder Taoki, Jordach I need to work on a site for a bit 20:10 Jordach kay. :) 20:10 Taoki Jordach: I'm a Xonotic core dev too 20:10 Taoki OldCoder: ok. Good luck :) 20:10 Jordach cool 20:10 Jordach Taoki - if theres a way to beat calinou at 1 v 1; pm me 20:10 Jordach (damn tuba!) 20:11 OldCoder Taoki, It's the cornernote mirror 20:11 OldCoder Shouldn't take long 20:11 OldCoder Taoki, Jordach If the two of you can dig up more cornernote files please post them for me 20:11 Taoki Jordach: For some reason I can barely play online usually 20:11 Jordach wait wait wiazt 20:11 Jordach wait 20:11 Taoki And wow. Quite a lot of people here are also into Xonotic. It's really nice to see this :) 20:11 Jordach why are we not using googles webcache? that must have omp links 20:11 Taoki erm, quite a few 20:11 Taoki But, a few are :) 20:12 thexyz Jordach: no 20:12 Jordach thexyz - shush 20:12 thexyz all his mods were hosted at github 20:12 Jordach fuck. 20:12 * Jordach tries google cache for git 20:12 OldCoder I've got the ones I was using 20:12 thexyz Jordach: that'll not work either 20:13 Jordach hm, time machine? 20:13 NekoGloop sure 20:13 NekoGloop ask the Doctor nicely. 20:13 Jordach da da da dum 20:15 Taoki OldCoder: BTW. Do you have a messenger or skype I can add you to as well? Feel free to PM if you don't wish to post such on the channel 20:15 OldCoder Taoki, writing... 20:15 OldCoder LAD, hello 20:15 LAD hello 20:16 LAD have u opend Octu's presnt yet?? 20:16 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gSJO1QxiSA&feature=watch-vrec 20:16 OldCoder Taoki, I may Skype in the future but ATM I use: IRC, email, Twitter 20:16 Taoki Sure. Not sure if I added you to twitter 20:16 OldCoder LAD, I slept very late today and am doing an unexpected MT project right now. When done I shall go buy cola and then open it. 20:17 OldCoder Taoki, I am: 20:17 OldCoder BoldCoder 20:17 OldCoder there as opposed to OldCoder 20:17 LAD uhh 20:17 LAD cool 20:17 LAD cola 20:17 LAD ok ok 20:17 OldCoder One of the Twitter admins promised to free up the other handle for me but didn't 20:17 OldCoder LAD, I don't eat much 20:17 Taoki Thanks, added. MirceaKitsune / Taoki there 20:17 LAD hmmm 20:17 OldCoder Taoki, You followed me? Thanks 20:17 LAD ok 20:17 Taoki sure. NP 20:17 OldCoder LAD, how was your trip? 20:17 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2o4v8iuNvI&feature=related :3 20:18 LAD cola is cool still but not all the time 20:18 LAD it was good 20:18 OldCoder LAD, I don't like the taste of the water here 20:18 LAD thnx for asking 20:18 OldCoder LAD, settled back in 20:18 LAD i know 20:18 OldCoder ? 20:18 LAD i tried florida water 20:18 LAD it made me like canada's water better 20:18 LAD yea im doing good over here 20:18 OldCoder I can imagine 20:19 LAD what part of USA u in 20:19 NekoGloop The one with cake. 20:19 OldCoder Me? 20:19 LAD yes 20:19 OldCoder Not clear any longer. I am in Silicon Valley but have lost my home. Probably moving soon. 20:20 LAD ??? 20:20 OldCoder LAD, Busy ATM 20:20 OldCoder But glad to see you 20:20 LAD ok 20:20 LAD not shur what u ment but :( 20:20 OldCoder LAD, we can talk later 20:20 LAD i dont think it's good 20:20 OldCoder One step at a time 20:20 LAD but good luck to you 20:20 OldCoder Thank you 20:22 NekoGloop fack. minetest y u crash. 20:22 LAD well 20:23 LAD eather high PC usage which slowed MT down enuff so that it crashed or it just crashed of something you did like open and closeing windows between minetest and other windows 20:23 babyface1031 ? besides technics what else can you do with diamonds 20:23 NekoGloop babyface1031: nothing because it is a technic item? 20:24 iqualfragile they are the girls best friends 20:24 LAD XD 20:24 NekoGloop and because RBA is a dick with adding tools? 20:24 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: add a rubber block. 20:24 NekoGloop make it slightly bouncy 20:24 babyface1031 oh ok 20:24 iqualfragile there is the trampoline mod 20:25 NekoGloop i know 20:25 NekoGloop I have it 8) 20:25 iqualfragile its great because it has no cap 20:25 iqualfragile so you can jump as high as you want 20:25 NekoGloop edited the recipes so technic:rubber is used 20:26 NekoGloop but i want a rubber block that is only slightly bouncy, so that i dont get higher than i jumped. 20:26 NekoGloop bouncy=100 20:27 NekoGloop so i bounce only as high as i jump. 20:28 rubenwardy bye 20:28 NekoGloop ragequit? 20:28 OldCoder Repeating request occasionally today: Please give me copies of cornernote material for a mirror 20:29 NekoGloop Jeija should make the jumping mod use technic:rubber for the trampoline. 20:31 Taoki celeron55: Ok. Whenever I get the parent I use getObjectId each time, but for some reason that still causes a bad memory read. Though I think it should return NULL whenever it's bad. http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8mXDmE2j 20:32 NekoGloop T_A_N_K didnt make the package contain the images? 20:32 * NekoGloop consults his old mods archive 20:34 NekoGloop iqualfragile1: meow? :3 20:35 iqualfragile1 well… i guess i got a new ip… 20:35 NekoGloop lol? 20:36 iqualfragile1 i get a new ip adress every day 20:36 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVFfeTIWWco&feature=related 20:36 iqualfragile1 and it was about time 20:36 NekoGloop ban-retardant? 20:38 NekoGloop Meow~? :o 20:40 NekoGloop so... why doesnt worldedit just directly save the meta as-is? 20:43 LAD OLdCoder 20:43 LAD ??? 20:45 celeron55 Taoki: seems like that should work and return NULL in all cases when the parent doesn't exist 20:46 Taoki celeron55: Apparently using an if(!obj) check after gets it working. I still get such faults but they're likely from something else. They clearly happen less often now 20:46 OldCoder LAD, Hi 20:46 OldCoder LAD, I was in PM 20:46 LAD oh srry 20:46 OldCoder WorldEdit hasn't quite worked to save 30001 world 20:46 LAD can u take a present at this time 20:46 OldCoder Some buildings come out with pieces missing 20:47 LAD hmmm 20:47 LAD intresting 20:47 Jordach OldCoder - when loading air blocks fail 20:47 Jordach they become replaced ith any other blocks 20:47 OldCoder LAD, I wish to relax for that. I receive few gifts. The last one was your own graphics for me. 20:47 OldCoder Jordach, explain 20:47 Jordach ait == null node 20:47 Jordach -t +r 20:47 NekoGloop air blocks are never saved. 20:47 Jordach ^ that 20:47 OldCoder Jordach, NekoGloop: Zeitgeist made schems of all the stuff in world 30001 20:47 OldCoder Then I regenerated the world 20:48 LAD well ill just PM it to u 20:48 NekoGloop but worldedit tries digging air when //dig is used 20:48 NekoGloop so idk. 20:48 LAD when u have time look at it 20:48 LAD ?? 20:48 OldCoder Using //metaload he brought back the builds 20:48 LAD that ok?? 20:48 OldCoder LAD PM 20:48 OldCoder buildings 20:48 Jordach OldCoder https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit/issues/17 20:48 Taoki I'm realizing that the models code is quickly approaching testing stage. There are still some issues left (mainly 2 big ones) but after these are solved most things will be ready to test and debug 20:48 OldCoder But only the small ones came back 20:48 LAD oh i know this 1 20:48 NekoGloop OldCoder: btw, has the building of the client worked or have you done it yet? 20:50 OldCoder NekoGloop, scroll up 20:50 OldCoder Shall I list what is going on ATM? 20:50 OldCoder I lost all day yesterday 20:50 OldCoder to crap you were involved in 20:51 OldCoder I was up to 2am writing 100 pages 20:51 OldCoder exactly 20:51 OldCoder And ATM am organizing a cornernote mirror 20:51 OldCoder the build will proceed after thexyz completes a change he intends to try 20:51 LAD hmmm 20:51 LAD Coder dous alot for u guys 20:52 LAD and i never realy see u guys thnk him or repay in any way 20:52 OldCoder LAD, it is fine... right now I just need to finish the cornernote mirror 20:52 jordan4ibanez i found them 20:52 jordan4ibanez https://sites.google.com/site/cornernote/minetest 20:52 OldCoder If people can post more pieces that will help 20:52 thexyz OldCoder: you can also try this http://pastebin.com/0N56YJnn 20:52 OldCoder R 20:52 jordan4ibanez get them not 20:52 jordan4ibanez now* 20:52 OldCoder Yes 20:52 OldCoder Doing it 20:52 OldCoder I thought he purged that 20:53 jordan4ibanez fuck 20:53 OldCoder He did purge it 20:53 OldCoder thexyz, t y 20:53 jordan4ibanez well just don't go to the home page it's disgusting 20:53 OldCoder thexyz, thanks! But what should I do to disable LevelDB? 20:53 OldCoder Or will it build without Boost? 20:54 * OldCoder returns to website 20:54 thexyz OldCoder: it will build without boost 20:54 thexyz (i hope) 20:54 OldCoder thank you! 20:54 OldCoder I will let you know 20:54 thexyz at least, on linux it builds fine 20:54 OldCoder and you too NekoGloop 20:54 Jordach OldCoder - see ya tomorrow 20:54 LAD Coder is ther armor in your client?? 20:54 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/inventory2.png how do you like this one? :) 20:54 OldCoder Jordach, hi 20:55 Jordach also, OldCoder you should start a humor career 20:55 Jordach :) 20:55 Jordach night all 20:55 OldCoder LAD disabled because it conflicts 20:55 OldCoder Jordach, heh! 20:55 LAD ok thnx 20:55 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: excellent 20:55 OldCoder Jordach was talking about something the rest of you may learn about. I have done something amusing. 20:55 OldCoder Actually it may hit the papers eventually 20:55 NekoGloop jordan4ibanez: you didnt include the images in your .tar.gz of craft_guide 20:55 OldCoder LAD, armor... 20:56 jordan4ibanez oops 20:56 OldCoder LAD, conflicts with PVP but I will most the mod with NekoGloop patch 20:56 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, if there is a new version let me know 20:56 NekoGloop my patch is not as good as it seems :P 20:56 OldCoder That is why I am not using armor 20:56 NekoGloop doesnt fix the PVP issue. 20:56 OldCoder Yes 20:56 NekoGloop helmets are still overpowered. 20:56 LAD ok 20:57 jordan4ibanez https://dl.dropbox.com/s/zrp8xhcrpgeqwd2/craft_guide.tar.gz?dl=1 20:57 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, t y 20:58 jordan4ibanez yep 20:59 OldCoder How would the craft guide be described? 20:59 NekoGloop "A node that allows the player to view crafting recipes" 21:00 OldCoder T y 21:00 LAD y was all of cornernotes mods removed 21:00 NekoGloop LAD: ragequit. 21:00 OldCoder Yesterday was odd 21:00 thexyz OldCoder: http://mods.minetest.ru/craft_guide/README.txt 21:00 OldCoder thexyz, t y! 21:00 jordan4ibanez it's a better implimentation of not enough items 21:00 LAD ragequit.??? 21:00 OldCoder LAD, I will explain briefly... 21:00 LAD what or who 21:01 LAD oh ok 21:01 NekoGloop jordan4ibanez: i would like it to be part of the player inventory. 21:01 NekoGloop or at least have an appropriate Inv+ module. 21:01 OldCoder LAD, yesterday cornernote spent time with me on 100 pages of legal documents. Engaged Slim Shady. Fought two long battles over meat and cows feelings. I spent hours with him in PM trying to calm him down but it did not work. Then he was kicked and decided to leave MT. 21:01 OldCoder In short 21:02 OldCoder He was burned out 21:02 NekoGloop in short? "ragequit" 21:02 OldCoder No 21:02 OldCoder Burnout 21:02 OldCoder He talked afterward with C55 and RealBadAngel 21:02 OldCoder Simply was overloaded I think 21:02 OldCoder Could not be flexible about how to deal with cows 21:02 LAD oh 21:02 OldCoder If you are not flexible sometimes you will break 21:03 jordan4ibanez Is landmine the one causing all this trouble? 21:03 NekoGloop in part 21:03 jordan4ibanez Okay, brb, i'm going to take down his server 21:04 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, No 21:04 OldCoder Stop 21:04 OldCoder T_A_N_K or jordan4ibanez: We request you stop 21:04 OldCoder This is a sincere request for not to escalate 21:05 OldCoder cornernote bears some responsibility here. He is not able to step outside himself and review. 21:05 OldCoder His points may be false or true. Either way he needs to look at how to communicate. 21:05 OldCoder A few days rest will help. 21:06 OldCoder 21:06 OldCoder http://mods.minetest.ru/ 21:06 * ruskie knows that burnout himself... 21:07 OldCoder Do any more of those belong to him? 21:07 OldCoder ruskie, Indeed 21:08 thexyz OldCoder: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-11-05#i_2614109 21:08 OldCoder t y 21:08 OldCoder thexyz, this is a log 21:09 thexyz > names of cornernote's mods: bookmarks_gui, craft_guide, towntest, hill_nodebox, bags, deploy_nodes, armor, no_mapgen, worldedit_gui, workbench, dye_craft, inventory_plus, particles, home_gui 21:09 OldCoder thexyz, t y 21:09 OldCoder Checking the ru archive 21:09 thexyz it seems workbench at mods.minetest.ru is not cornernote's 21:09 NekoGloop workbench is not cornernote's mod 21:10 thexyz NekoGloop: there're darkrose's & cornernote's versions 21:10 NekoGloop is cornernote's better in any way? 21:10 ruskie http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3275 <-- says here that atleast this one is 21:11 OdnetninI are there any server with skyblock? 21:11 NekoGloop OdnetninI: OldCoder has one. 21:11 OdnetninI OldCoder, can you give me the ip? 21:11 thexyz NekoGloop: cornernote's version is fork from darkrose's, afaik 21:13 OdnetninI OldCoder? 21:13 T_A_n4iban_K IM A MONSTER ARRGH 21:13 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: lol 21:13 OldCoder Hi 21:13 NekoGloop franken-tank 21:13 OldCoder OdnetninI, Hi 21:13 OdnetninI Hi 21:13 OldCoder OdnetninI, there is indeed a Skyblock world 21:13 OldCoder It is minetest.org port 30002 21:14 OdnetninI That's not work 21:14 OldCoder And skyblock goes on my mirror of course 21:14 OldCoder Checking server 21:14 OldCoder it seems to be running 21:14 OldCoder What's the problem? 21:14 OldCoder Can't you connect? 21:14 OdnetninI Not 21:14 OdnetninI Always conecting server 21:15 OdnetninI but port 30000 works 21:15 OldCoder NekoGloop, you got a minute to try connecting? 21:15 OldCoder To 30002 ? 21:15 OdnetninI but 30002 21:15 OdnetninI no 21:15 NekoGloop perhaps the server has run out of places to put new players. 21:16 NekoGloop hm... cant seem to connect. 21:16 OldCoder Restarting 21:16 OldCoder My worlds restart automatically 21:16 T_A_N_K today is a lazy day 21:16 OldCoder But only if there is a crash 21:16 OldCoder I need to find a way to detect hangups 21:17 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: how so? 21:17 OldCoder allow 5 to 10 minutes for restart 21:17 NekoGloop OldCoder: I could recreate no_mapgen 21:17 OldCoder NekoGloop, explain please 21:17 NekoGloop all one must do is realias all the mapgen aliases to "air" 21:17 OldCoder Oh 21:18 OldCoder For world 30001 ? 21:18 NekoGloop nonono 21:18 NekoGloop I mean the mod. 21:18 OldCoder Ah! 21:18 OldCoder cornernote mod? 21:18 NekoGloop no_mapgen, one of cornernote's 21:18 OldCoder Please do 21:18 OldCoder Thank you 21:18 NekoGloop should do something while skyblock is unavailable 21:19 NekoGloop hm, is there a way to get the worldpath? 21:19 NekoGloop well, worldedit does it so :P 21:21 OdnetninI I can't connect 21:22 OdnetninI OldCoder, Theser works? 21:22 OdnetninI the server works*? 21:22 OldCoder Wait 21:22 OldCoder I restarted 21:23 OldCoder checking 21:23 OldCoder I think it hung in the shutdown code 21:23 OldCoder Give it 4 minutes more 21:23 OldCoder Forced a shutdown just now 21:24 T_A_N_K why are there so many fucking noobs 21:24 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZzVwNQ 21:24 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: because minecrap 21:24 OldCoder R 21:25 T_A_N_K realbadangel can i help you with technic 21:25 OldCoder NekoGloop, t y 21:25 OdnetninI I conect 21:25 OdnetninI I'm downloading media 21:25 OldCoder T_A_N_K, he will appreciate help with some things like testing 21:25 OldCoder OdnetninI, patience for the slow media it is just once 21:25 OdnetninI ok 21:25 OdnetninI thanks Oldcoder 21:25 NekoGloop and having someone's code to ridicule. 21:25 T_A_N_K coding damnit CODING, i want my atomic tools in there :D 21:26 harrison BRIEFING FOR A DESCENT INTO HELL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYSfWcW8cYA&feature=youtu.be 21:26 OdnetninI AAAA 21:26 OdnetninI conection error 21:26 OdnetninI downloading media again 21:26 T_A_N_K harrison what is this acid trip 21:27 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82TSWzOsPYc&feature=g-vrec 21:28 harrison for a full explication of this and related concepts you may turn to http://spasim.org/ 21:29 OdnetninI OldCoder, Only 0% Media 21:29 OldCoder OdnetninI, what is your OS? 21:29 T_A_N_K neko want to play tekkit 21:29 OdnetninI Trisquel GNU/Linux 21:29 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: here or MC? 21:29 T_A_N_K MCCCCCCCCCC 21:29 NekoGloop not premium, so no. 21:29 OldCoder OdnetninI, I don't have a preloaded client for that. I am sorry but there is no shortcut yet for the media. 21:30 OdnetninI Cornote server worked, but this not 21:30 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: unless there's a technic launcher mineshafter. 21:30 OdnetninI ooooo sorry 21:30 OdnetninI 1% media 21:31 OdnetninI 2% 21:32 OldCoder We will fix that 21:33 OdnetninI 3% 21:33 T_A_N_K no you wont 21:33 T_A_N_K I WONT LET YOU 21:33 * T_A_N_K tackles oldcoder 21:33 OdnetninI I only need media the first timee 21:33 NekoGloop lol? 21:33 T_A_N_K ASDFASFSGH 21:33 OdnetninI no? 21:33 OldCoder OdnetninI, yes 21:33 OdnetninI good 21:34 OdnetninI where is media downloaded? 21:35 NekoGloop minetest/cache/media i think 21:35 T_A_N_K ~/minetest/cache/media/ 21:36 OdnetninI yes 21:36 OdnetninI is here 21:36 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: k, I'm ready I think :3 21:36 T_A_N_K for what? 21:36 NekoGloop tekki 21:36 NekoGloop +t 21:37 T_A_N_K do you have a registered account? 21:37 NekoGloop who does. 21:37 NekoGloop who cares. 21:37 T_A_N_K me 21:37 T_A_N_K me 21:37 OdnetninI When i close my client, skyblocks save my progress? 21:37 T_A_N_K find a mineshafter tekkit server lol 21:37 OdnetninI OldCoder When i close my client, skyblocks save my progress? 21:37 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: I'll buy it as soon as i find one of the gift card things. 21:38 NekoGloop Since I cant buy it via paypal and i lack a credit card. 21:38 OldCoder OdnetninI, If you mean media load, I don't remember 21:38 OdnetninI i mean, my map, my progress 21:38 OldCoder I do not understand 21:38 OdnetninI My progress in skyblock 21:38 T_A_N_K how did you get tekkit mineshafter? 21:39 OldCoder I do not understand 21:39 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: Magic. 21:39 OdnetninI mmmm 21:39 OdnetninI ok 21:39 NekoGloop and google. 21:39 OldCoder OdnetninI, Do you mean while you are playing? 21:39 OldCoder NekoGloop, able to answer him? 21:39 OdnetninI I play skyblock 21:39 NekoGloop OldCoder: me? 21:39 OdnetninI i close my client 21:39 OdnetninI and i connect later 21:39 OldCoder If you are willing 21:39 NekoGloop OdnetninI: server will remember. 21:39 OdnetninI ok 21:39 OdnetninI cornote server nop 21:43 RealBadAngel ok, i made example GUI using formspec background: http://realbadangel.pl/inventory3.png 21:43 Taoki Weird... seems there's a bug in the MineTest code which doesn't appear to be mine. Sometimes checking things m_meshnode can not return a NULL pointer but an invalid one 21:43 Taoki Which IMO is normally impossible 21:43 T_A_N_K cornernote creeps me out 21:43 Taoki RealBadAngel: Finally a textured GUI, I like that! 21:44 Taoki Wish it were possible for all menus and the quickbar too 21:44 RealBadAngel damn easy to make 21:44 RealBadAngel all is a grid of squares, can be done in any resolution 21:44 RealBadAngel and will be rescaled to fit the formspec inventory slots and coordinates 21:45 RealBadAngel with this example i used 36x36 squares 21:46 RealBadAngel and its simply to add: 21:46 RealBadAngel meta:set_string("formspec", 21:46 RealBadAngel "invsize[8,9;]".. 21:46 RealBadAngel "background[-1,-1;10,11;technic_electric_furnace_GUI.png]".. 21:47 OdnetninI OldCoder, can you pass me a download link of skyblock mod? 21:47 OldCoder Yes 21:47 OldCoder It will all be on the site that I am making right now 21:48 OdnetninI ok 21:48 OdnetninI one question more 21:48 OldCoder ? 21:48 OdnetninI can i use graphics of any minecraft mod to make a minetest mod? 21:48 OldCoder The question is not clear 21:49 OdnetninI I want to port to minetest two minecrafts mods 21:49 OldCoder Oh 21:49 OldCoder What about legal issues? 21:49 RealBadAngel ask authors 21:49 OdnetninI ok 21:49 OdnetninI i will try 21:49 RealBadAngel if they will allow you to do so, then ok 21:49 RealBadAngel if not, there are many abandoned texture packs for minecraft 21:49 OdnetninI Thanks all 21:49 RealBadAngel what mods would you like to port? 21:50 OldCoder k 21:50 Taoki I think the code is badly broken somewhere 21:50 Taoki Outside of my changes properly 21:50 Taoki **possibly 21:50 OdnetninI New glass and Sand Shyny Blocks 21:50 OdnetninI I don't remember the exact nem 21:50 OdnetninI name* 21:50 Doc22 Heya Oldcoder 21:51 OldCoder Doc22, hi! 21:51 OdnetninI any link to abandoned texture packs? 21:51 Doc22 did you get some rest 21:51 Doc22 after that thing 21:51 OldCoder Doc22, yes 21:51 Doc22 good 21:51 Doc22 feeling better? 21:51 OldCoder But ridiculously busy ATM 21:51 Doc22 lol 21:51 OldCoder I don't know yet 21:51 OldCoder I will do this... 21:51 Doc22 what was that thing 21:51 Doc22 or is it private 21:52 OldCoder I will finish cornernote mirror now. I will check for mail from attorneys. I will go to buy cola. I will accept a gift that is being presented. I will write some port forwarding code for a friend. I will look at kickstart as somebody else desires a startup. 21:52 OldCoder It will be a full day 21:52 OldCoder Doc22, I can talk later 21:52 Doc22 ok 21:53 Doc22 well caya 21:53 Doc22 cya* 21:53 OldCoder k 21:54 OdnetninI bye 21:54 OldCoder k 21:54 OldCoder The site is nearly done. This is fun. 21:59 OdnetninI I can't do anything in the sserver 21:59 OldCoder I will grant interact 21:59 OldCoder OdnetninI, what is your nickname there? 21:59 OdnetninI Thanks 21:59 OdnetninI OdnetninI 21:59 OldCoder Wait 22:00 OldCoder Coming 22:00 OdnetninI Wait please 22:00 OldCoder And the mod plus mods it needs will be posted shortly 22:01 OldCoder OdnetninI, granted and have fun 22:02 Doc22 wait so oldcoder 22:02 Doc22 i cant post on the forums 22:02 OldCoder Doc22, Hi 22:02 OdnetninI I had a problem, but i'm reconnecting 22:02 Doc22 well make topics 22:02 Doc22 is that because i am new 22:02 OldCoder Doc22, I don't handle the forums. VanessaE and thexyz are mods there. 22:02 Doc22 ok 22:03 OldCoder Doc22, BTW 22:03 Doc22 ?? 22:03 OldCoder Sorry; was busy earlier. Which issue were you asking about? Yesterday there were several. Cornernote... 22:03 OldCoder Patience is a virtue... 22:03 thexyz Doc22: in which forum section? 22:03 OldCoder Cornernote had two battles related to meat 22:03 OldCoder That was the main thing 22:03 Doc22 i cant post in mod releases 22:03 Doc22 make a topic 22:03 Doc22 i made a mod 22:03 Doc22 called camo mod 22:03 OldCoder I believe there is a rule about that 22:04 Doc22 and it says i have no permission to make new topics 22:04 Doc22 do i need a certain number of posts? 22:04 babyface1031 OldCoder do you keep shuting down the server? 22:04 OldCoder babyface1031, No 22:04 OldCoder I have not shut it down at all 22:04 OldCoder This may be a problem 22:04 Doc22 hrmmm 22:04 OldCoder Checking now 22:04 babyface1031 this is the 2nd time it has shut down 22:04 Doc22 i had problems connecting as well 22:04 Doc22 lol 22:04 OldCoder 30004 ? 22:05 OldCoder I hope the world hasn't had damage 22:05 OldCoder Reviewing 22:05 Doc22 hrmmmmm 22:05 babyface1031 ok 22:05 OldCoder we can live with one crash a day 22:05 OldCoder But hold on 22:05 Doc22 lol 22:05 OldCoder Ah 22:05 OldCoder wait 22:05 Doc22 you need to make a bat file that keeps it on 22:05 Doc22 and if it stops it starts it again 22:05 babyface1031 i though you were updateing or backing it up thats why i didnt say anything the first tim 22:05 OldCoder Doc22, I do exactly that! 22:06 Doc22 and it doesnt work? 22:06 Doc22 hmmm 22:06 OldCoder It does work 22:06 OldCoder Wait 22:06 OldCoder snow/init.lua:332: attempt to call global 'nodeupdate' (a nil value) 22:06 OldCoder Talk to the snow author 22:06 OldCoder Hold on 22:06 OldCoder You crashed due to a snow bug. And it restarted automatically. 22:07 Doc22 hrmmm 22:07 OldCoder I can probably patch that one 22:07 OldCoder Are you back in yet? 22:07 Doc22 i see why thexy z didnt answer me 22:07 OldCoder Are you back in yet? 22:07 Doc22 you post in the modding general 22:07 Doc22 then request move 22:07 Doc22 sorry lol 22:07 OldCoder babyface1031, Doc22 see note above. There is a snow bug. 22:07 Doc22 didnt catch that 22:07 OldCoder This is useful. We will hopefully fix all the bugs over time. 22:07 Doc22 i got that once 22:07 OldCoder Are you back in yet? 22:08 Doc22 back in what 22:08 OldCoder World 30004 22:08 Doc22 no 22:08 Doc22 im on my old pc 22:08 OldCoder Oh 22:08 Doc22 (from 2004) 22:08 Doc22 and it's video card is a pos 22:08 OldCoder Almost as old as mrtux PC 22:08 babyface1031 yeah i am back in 22:08 Doc22 it won't even support opengl 1.0 ... 22:08 Doc22 i have one from 200 22:08 Doc22 2000 22:08 Doc22 with a video card 22:09 Doc22 that is better 22:09 Doc22 but whaddya know 22:09 Doc22 windows 7 requires directx 9 22:12 OldCoder babyface1031, Do not lose faith in this world. It continues to improve. The only crashes that worry me are the lockups. Not sure how to debug those. I can fix the snow problem. 22:12 Doc22_ lol oldcoder 22:12 Doc22_ i double logged 22:13 OldCoder O? 22:13 Doc22_ you can kick the doc22 without _ 22:13 * OldCoder shrugs 22:13 Doc22_ i didnt log off old pc 22:13 babyface1031 i am not going anywhere 22:13 Doc22_ and now im on other one 22:13 Doc22_ lol 22:13 * Doc22_ chuckles nervously 22:15 Doc22_ wait so oldcoder can you gimme interact on 30003 22:15 OldCoder New website coming 22:15 OldCoder Doc22_, Yes 22:15 OldCoder Coming 22:15 Doc22_ oh? 22:15 Doc22_ whats it for 22:15 OldCoder Was no time to patch you in 22:15 Doc22_ the main site? 22:15 OldCoder Cornernote 22:15 OldCoder The thing you asked about 22:15 Doc22_ hes not on 22:16 OldCoder And he won't be again 22:16 OldCoder For a while 22:16 Doc22_ y not 22:16 OldCoder Short answer... 22:16 Doc22_ oh right 22:16 OldCoder He burned out and quit. Deleted his stuff. I am reassembling it. 22:16 OldCoder You have interact. Have fun. 22:16 Doc22_ thx 22:19 OldCoder Site in about 15 minutes. Then I must go to buy cola and review attorneys mail. Then the rest of everything. 22:20 OdnetninI OldCoder can you gave me a tree trunk, please? 22:20 OldCoder Which world again? 22:20 Doc22_ oldcoder i cant build 22:20 OdnetninI The same 30002 22:20 Doc22_ or destroy 22:20 OldCoder What is the exact give command for the trunk? 22:20 Doc22_ i spawned on a cobblestone pillar 22:20 Doc22_ and jumped 22:20 Doc22_ then i died 22:20 OdnetninI mmm 22:20 Doc22_ and tried again 22:21 Doc22_ now im on a grassland 22:21 OldCoder Uberi, Hi! 22:21 Uberi hey OldCoder 22:21 OdnetninI give OdnetninI object 22:21 OdnetninI i don't remember trunk 22:21 OldCoder OdnetninI, I know that much 22:21 OldCoder OdnetninI, you will need to find out. Or I can review tomorrow. 22:21 OldCoder Uberi, we did this: 22:22 babyface1031 it shut down again OldCoder 22:22 Doc22_ yus 22:22 OdnetninI default:tree oldcoder 22:22 Doc22_ it says server restarting 22:22 Doc22_ im connecting again... 22:22 OldCoder Uberi, used metasave to save all buildings in 30001 world. Regenerated world from seed. metaload loads small buildings. Large ones have pieces missing. Theory is interact with existing nodes. I instructed somebody to try WorldEdit //dig to delete bore //metaload but they say nothing happens. 22:23 OldCoder *before 22:23 OldCoder Uberi most likely you cannot comment. But any comments? 22:23 OldCoder Doc22_, babyface1031 wait 22:23 Doc22_ ok 22:23 babyface1031 ok 22:23 Uberi OldCoder: cut off, or random pieces missing? 22:23 Doc22_ lol 22:23 OdnetninI OldCoder, default:tree 22:23 OldCoder You have the tree 22:23 OdnetninI Thanks 22:24 OldCoder Uberi, I gather it is random pieces. I will be going to look myself soon. 22:24 Doc22_ babyface ima go to 30002 next 22:24 babyface1031 ok 22:24 Doc22_ its skylands 22:24 OldCoder Uberi, No comments are needed yet. I will gather more information. 22:24 Doc22_ skyblocks... 22:24 Uberi certainly, OldCoder 22:24 OldCoder Uberi, I thought you might like to know 22:24 Uberi thanks 22:24 OldCoder Uberi Octupus reported same issue with a different world and his castle 22:24 OldCoder Uberi Zeitgeist speculates interaction with existing nodes but NekoGloop said something about WE defaulting to dig air 22:25 Uberi if it's cut off, that means the chunk wasn't loaded and there's nothing that can be done about that 22:25 OldCoder Yes 22:25 OldCoder I gather it is pieces such as holes 22:25 Uberi hmm, are the save files available? 22:25 OldCoder Hence speculation about something in the new world interfering with the load 22:25 OldCoder Uberi, indeed 22:25 NekoGloop OldCoder: what i meant was air is not saved. 22:25 OldCoder I will prepare a ZIP momentarily 22:25 OldCoder NekoGloop, t y 22:26 Uberi OldCoder: you can use //allocate to set the area to the loaded object, and //set air to dig out everything 22:26 OldCoder So: 22:26 OldCoder Set //pos1 before load 22:26 Uberi so //allocate castle and then //set air 22:26 OldCoder Ah 22:26 NekoGloop also, //dig tries to dig ar 8) 22:26 OldCoder Go to new world 22:26 NekoGloop air* 22:26 OldCoder //allocate bacon 22:26 OldCoder //set air 22:26 Uberi :O 22:26 OldCoder //metaload bacon 22:26 OldCoder Like that? 22:26 Uberi yep, OldCoder 22:26 NekoGloop Uberi: //dig digs air? 8) 22:27 OldCoder After setting //pos1 I assume at SW 22:27 Uberi NekoGloop: well, you never know :P 22:27 Uberi what if the air is filled with dirt? 22:27 NekoGloop Uberi: no, i mean it tries to dig air nodes. 22:27 OldCoder babyface1031, Doc22_ snow is broken 22:27 Uberi yeah, I know, I did some testing and this way is apparently a bit faster 22:27 NekoGloop Uberi: also try using for-loops instead of while-loops. 22:27 OldCoder I will try to patch it 22:27 Doc22_ ok 22:28 OldCoder Uberi, Do you wish the save files? 22:28 Uberi NekoGloop: also performance tested that, insignificant change in speed, unfortunately 22:28 Uberi yeah, OldCoder 22:28 OldCoder Coming up 22:28 NekoGloop Uberi: yes but lets the server process still. 22:28 Uberi hmm? 22:28 NekoGloop while-loops will lock the server until finished 22:28 NekoGloop for-loops run alongside the server. 22:29 NekoGloop so, which is better? 8) 22:29 Uberi are you saying for loops run in parallel? 22:29 Uberi brb 22:29 NekoGloop Uberi: yes. 22:29 OldCoder http://minetest.org/30001_121105.zip 22:29 OldCoder Uberi, there you go. Hope they're interesting. 22:29 OldCoder It's the large ones that fail. 22:30 Uberi got it, OldCoder 22:30 OldCoder t y 22:30 Uberi NekoGloop: got any sources for that? as far as I know they run sequentially, as all loops do in Lua 22:30 NekoGloop hrm.. 22:31 NekoGloop Uberi: T_A_N_K whose source is flatland-generation testing. 22:31 OldCoder An unhandled exception occurred: 22:31 OldCoder ServerError: LuaError: error: 22:31 OldCoder snow/init.lua:332: attempt to call global 'nodeupdate' (a nil value) 22:31 OldCoder In Lua can I simple test a function against nil before calling it? 22:31 NekoGloop OldCoder: what version of minetest_game do you have? 22:31 OldCoder That one should be brand new 22:31 OldCoder Latest git 22:31 NekoGloop could be a problem. 22:31 Uberi NekoGloop: but MT runs the lua in its own thread anyways, IIRC, so wouldn't they both run in parallel? 22:31 OldCoder Go on 22:32 OldCoder I can downgrade minetest_game 22:32 OldCoder Shall I? 22:32 NekoGloop OldCoder: nodeupdate is handled through minetest_game/default 22:32 OldCoder Go on 22:32 NekoGloop Check if the function exists still. 22:32 OldCoder k 22:32 NekoGloop Should be at the bottom of init.lua 22:32 OldCoder Nope 22:32 OldCoder How many mods does this break? 22:32 NekoGloop Uberi: dunno, but will not disallow other mod processes. 22:33 NekoGloop OldCoder: any that call nodeupdate. 22:33 Doc22_ oldcoder theres a guy on 30002 that needs your help 22:33 NekoGloop so any with falling nodes. 22:33 OldCoder Doc22_, Odnet* ? 22:33 OldCoder What does he need? 22:33 OldCoder Why did they break all the mods?? 22:33 OldCoder D: 22:33 OldCoder <--- hates backware incompatible 22:33 Doc22_ oldcoder theres a guy on 30002 that needs your help 22:33 OldCoder Doc22_, I heard you 22:33 Doc22_ he needs permission 22:33 OldCoder What does he need? 22:33 Doc22_ to build 22:33 NekoGloop OldCoder: because c55 doesnt give a shit. 22:33 OldCoder Who is he? 22:33 OldCoder NekoGloop, who did I give 30002 to? 22:33 Doc22_ oh he keft 22:34 Doc22_ he is deguminer 22:34 Uberi NekoGloop: well, in any case I have found that the server locks in both cases, so I'm afraid that isn't a solution 22:34 OldCoder NekoGloop, are you one of the ops there? 22:34 OldCoder O.K. 22:34 NekoGloop OldCoder: nope. 22:34 Doc22_ thedegominer 22:34 NekoGloop if you op'd anyone there I dunno who it was. 22:34 OldCoder So I wonder if I should patch the new default 22:34 OldCoder Or downgrade minetest_game 22:34 Uberi OldCoder: latest git mt_game? 22:34 OldCoder Yes 22:34 OldCoder Breaks mods 22:34 OldCoder No nodeupdate 22:34 Uberi don't use that unless you upgrade mt itself 22:35 OldCoder Even if I do 22:35 OldCoder It breaks the mods 22:35 Uberi they moved falling stuff to builtin 22:35 Uberi and it's not quite ready yet 22:35 OldCoder It breaks the mods 22:35 OldCoder Downgrading 22:35 OldCoder Everybody out of the pool 22:35 OldCoder All the worlds are going down 22:35 NekoGloop OldCoder: download the builtin folder from minetest source. 22:35 OldCoder Hmm 22:35 NekoGloop place it within minetest's builtin folder. 22:35 OldCoder NekoGloop, see Uberi remarks 22:35 NekoGloop problem == solved. 22:35 OldCoder Apparently I should not do this yet 22:35 OldCoder I am not going to update the server yet 22:35 NekoGloop I can personally guarentee this method works. 22:36 OldCoder What about the server incompatibility? 22:36 Uberi they also fixed the texture mem leak! you can actually use "Exit to menu" now 22:36 OldCoder Hmm 22:36 OldCoder <--- torn 22:36 * OldCoder reviews 22:36 OldCoder Uberi, do you agree with NekoGloop ? 22:36 NekoGloop OldCoder: servers will be compatible 22:36 Uberi yes, that is exactly the change that was made 22:36 OldCoder All right 22:36 NekoGloop Uberi: I can :P 22:36 * OldCoder pokes at code 22:36 NekoGloop without the mem leak fix. 22:37 Uberi yeah I can too, but only for maybe 5 times or so 22:37 Uberi after that I run out of memory 22:37 NekoGloop Uberi: I can do that 3 times before minetest says fuck off. 22:37 Uberi I have ~1.5gb free right now so that might be it 22:37 NekoGloop I dont have that much space on my HDD left :P 22:37 Uberi :O 22:38 NekoGloop <--- has a shitty computer. 22:38 OldCoder NekoGloop, so overwrite the old builtin/* with the new copies? 22:38 NekoGloop OldCoder: yes. 22:39 OldCoder worlds going down 22:39 Doc22_ dang 22:39 OldCoder Sorry 22:39 OldCoder Need to fix the snow crash 22:39 Doc22_ its ok 22:39 OldCoder No connection to the novel of the same name 22:40 Uberi that is a nice castle 22:40 OldCoder Yes 22:40 NekoGloop oh, is my skyblock world restarted? 22:40 OldCoder I wish all these constructs to live on 22:40 OldCoder NekoGloop, no 22:40 OldCoder Shutting everything down to implement your suggestion 22:40 NekoGloop I mean was it reset from the last time i played on it. 22:40 OldCoder No 22:40 OldCoder All should be there 22:41 NekoGloop What the hell color is marble. 22:41 Uberi is it supposed to be filled with lava? 22:41 OldCoder Uberi, ? 22:41 OldCoder No 22:41 Uberi :/ 22:41 * OldCoder laughs 22:41 OldCoder Is there a schem full of lava?? 22:41 OldCoder I didn't know schems saved lava 22:41 Uberi those darn offline griefers 22:41 OdnetninI I can't Connect 22:41 Doc22_ lol 22:41 OldCoder OdnetninI, see above 22:42 OdnetninI 1,5GB? 22:42 NekoGloop Uberi: you german, by any chance? 8) 22:43 Uberi born there, but never went back, NekoGloop 22:43 NekoGloop :0 22:43 NekoGloop :)* 22:43 NekoGloop I just know the german number format uses "," as decimal :P 22:44 Uberi that is absolutely crazy to me 22:44 NekoGloop ikr 22:44 Uberi OldCoder: are you getting a lot of log output? 22:44 OldCoder Uberi, no 22:44 OldCoder Not related to WorldEdit 22:45 OldCoder I checked both the debug.txt and the regular logs 22:45 NekoGloop flowers spawning and the like? 22:45 OldCoder Hmm? 22:45 OldCoder Explain 22:45 Uberi OldCoder: I mean a lot of duplicated lines 22:45 NekoGloop i mean what you are getting in the debug 22:45 OldCoder Example? 22:45 Uberi one moment 22:45 Uberi 17:45:02: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "air" at (110,77,-81) (block (6,4,-6)) 22:45 Uberi 17:45:02: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "air" at (110,77,-80) (block (6,4,-5)) 22:45 Uberi 17:45:02: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "air" at (110,77,-79) (block (6,4,-5)) 22:45 Uberi 17:45:02: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "air" at (110,78,-81) (block (6,4,-6)) 22:45 Uberi something like that 22:45 OldCoder Wait 22:46 OldCoder yes 22:46 OldCoder Wait 22:46 OldCoder No 22:46 OldCoder WARNING: Ignoring CONTENT_IGNORE redefinition 22:46 OldCoder I just see those 22:46 Uberi so none of the CONTENT_IGNORE stuff? 22:46 OldCoder Verifying 22:46 Doc22 lol 22:46 Uberi how many, approximately? 22:47 Doc22 here i am on my old pc again 22:47 Uberi hey Doc22 22:47 OldCoder Zero 22:47 Doc22 'ello 22:47 Uberi ah, OK 22:47 Uberi hi cisoun 22:47 NekoGloop CONTENT_IGNORE redefinition? 22:47 OldCoder Just those 22:47 OldCoder Hmm! 22:47 OldCoder What are those from? 22:47 NekoGloop someone did a minetest.register_node(":__builtin:ignore") ? XD 22:47 OldCoder Should I check? 22:48 NekoGloop knock yourself out. 22:48 OldCoder Not unless you say to 22:48 Uberi OldCoder: that means the node was out of chunk load distance 22:48 NekoGloop ah... 22:48 OldCoder The ignores? 22:48 Uberi or maybe unloaded after occlusion culling 22:48 Uberi yeah, OldCoder 22:48 OldCoder Conclusions? 22:48 OldCoder Restarting worlds with new builtin 22:50 OldCoder Restarted 22:50 OldCoder Doc22, please see if 30004 keeps running now 22:50 OldCoder Finishing cornernote site 22:50 Doc22 im on my old pc again... 22:50 OldCoder k 22:50 Doc22 it wont even support opengl 1 22:50 Doc22 D: 22:50 Doc22 im getting a new pc thought 22:50 Doc22 though 22:50 Uberi oh yeah does anyone have a copy of the armor mod? 22:50 Doc22 im buying it as parts 22:50 Uberi cornernote removed it 22:50 Doc22 and putting it together 22:51 OldCoder 22:51 OldCoder Ta-Da: 22:51 Doc22 it is going to be schweet 22:51 OldCoder http://minetest.org/data/ 22:51 OldCoder Uberi, I have it 22:51 NekoGloop Uberi: he removed all his posts, pretty much. 22:51 OldCoder Did not post it because it doesn't work 22:51 OldCoder Will post it if you wish 22:51 OldCoder See preceding link 22:51 OldCoder http://minetest.org/data/ 22:51 OldCoder ^ cornernote stuff 22:51 OldCoder 22:51 OldCoder Report broken files or links please 22:52 Uberi thanks, OldCoder 22:53 Uberi if you're missing anything, let me know since I might have it 22:53 OldCoder armor coming up 22:53 OldCoder I think I have most of his mods 22:53 OldCoder Check the page and comment 22:54 Uberi anyone have a backup of api.minetest.net? 22:54 Uberi cornernote was hosting the site 22:54 NekoGloop lol 22:54 OldCoder Uberi, I was supposed to host it 22:54 OldCoder THIS WEEK 22:54 OldCoder :-) 22:54 OldCoder Three more days and I've of had it 22:55 Uberi sucks :/ 22:55 cornernote forum mods, whats the issue... cant or wont ban me ? 22:55 Uberi hi cornernote 22:55 cornernote if its cant, please say so now, so that i dont do what i am about to do next 22:55 NekoGloop cornernote: no, you are just being too much of a dick, so they wont. 22:56 cornernote if its wont, i recommend to do it, or you will want to after today 22:56 NekoGloop haha 22:56 NekoGloop you funny. 22:56 cornernote fuck off NekoGloop, dont call me names 22:56 NekoGloop I... didnt? 22:56 NekoGloop adjective ~= name 22:56 cornernote hi Uberi 22:57 cornernote "you are just being too much of a dick" 22:57 cornernote thanks for sharing your opinion 22:57 NekoGloop ha. 22:57 cornernote next time shove it up your fucking ass 22:57 Taoki Wow... just wow. I'm dealing with two lines of code. Where one confirms an object exists, the other causes a segmentation fault. I wonder how such logics (or rather the lack of them) appear in my code... 22:57 NekoGloop Next time dont force your opinions on people, cornernote. 22:57 Uberi Taoki: what's the code? 22:58 cornernote NekoGloop, i dont think opinions can be forced 22:58 cornernote but i'll help you by ignoring you 22:58 NekoGloop cornernote: you're trying really hard though. 22:58 cornernote * Added NekoGloop!*@* to ignore list 22:58 GloopMaster Yeah right. 22:58 Taoki Uberi: I have an animated mesh node. The first line is a debug print which does something like m_animated_meshnode->getReferenceCount(). It returns 1 and causes no fault. Then, I do setParent(m_animated_meshnode), but that causes a segmentation thing 22:58 GloopMaster You -will- hear me. 22:59 Taoki So first line confirms the object is there. Second says it isn't 22:59 Uberi Taoki: maybe setparent is decrementing it? 22:59 Taoki Not that I know of... very sure it's not 22:59 cornernote so, whats an attacker gotta do to be banned from the forums ? 22:59 OldCoder Uberi, press Reload 22:59 OldCoder http://minetest.org/data/ 22:59 OldCoder That has the armor mod now 22:59 OldCoder cornernote, Hey. Can we PM? 22:59 Uberi ah 22:59 cornernote i bet if EVERY ONE of my posts was replaced by that image you mods hated so much 23:00 cornernote lets try that 23:00 cornernote OC, i dont block PM's 23:00 OldCoder Uberi, press Reload on that page 23:01 Uberi thanks, OldCoder 23:02 Doc22 hey cornernote 23:03 OldCoder Uberi, comment later on what I should try with the schems and 30001 23:03 OldCoder And nobody beat up on cornernote 23:03 OldCoder I'd like to PM with him shortly 23:03 OldCoder But I need to keep a promise elsewhere 23:03 OldCoder x___x <-- tirerd 23:03 Uberi OldCoder: sure thing 23:03 OldCoder tirederer 23:04 NekoGloop I wouldnt have a problem if he stayed within the topic of minetest, or at least something that could be -possibly- related to minetest. 23:05 Doc22 bye guys 23:05 NekoGloop hello mrtux :3 23:05 mrtux hi 23:06 NekoGloop how hard would it be to make a texture pack to replace the default one? 23:07 NekoGloop er, ignore what i said. 23:07 NekoGloop stupid idea. 23:07 RealBadAngel you should keep tryin 23:07 NekoGloop trying whaT? 23:07 RealBadAngel many of default textures are just ugly 23:08 RealBadAngel for example bricks 23:08 RealBadAngel keep on workin with your textures 23:08 NekoGloop omploader is being a dick :P 23:08 RealBadAngel need ftp acc? 23:09 NekoGloop ftp? 23:21 Octupus Hola 23:21 Uberi hi Octupus 23:22 Octupus How are u uberi 23:22 cornernote my advice to forum mods is just ban me, make it painless and get it over with... like putting a bolt through a cows head and then slitting it's throat while it bleeds out... quick and painless 23:22 Octupus why cornernote? 23:25 OldCoder Octupus, Hi! 23:26 Octupus Hello OldCoder 23:26 OldCoder Octupus, See PM 23:27 OldCoder babyface1031, world snow problem may be fixed now 23:27 babyface1031 :D 23:31 OldCoder NekoGloop, Uberi, thexyz: Report problems if any with the cornernote mirror. I will attempt a server and client update with new thexyz sources. That may not be until tomorrow. WorldEdit issues need further discussion. Owners of 30001 request WorldEdit help and I hope to work through the issues. Back later. 23:38 OdnetninI OldCoder, soory, but can you make me a favor again please? 23:44 Octupus hm 23:46 Octupus Hello Doc22 23:46 Doc22 'ello 23:46 Doc22 octupus 23:46 Octupus if u wanna play mt i can for a bit 23:49 Octupus Doc22,^ 23:50 Doc22 ok 23:50 Doc22 sure 23:50 Doc22 ill pm you ip