Time Nick Message 00:00 busdriver problems with meta? 00:01 Uberi|Busy yep 00:01 busdriver what kind? 00:01 Octupus any1 wanna play with me on my server 00:01 Uberi|Busy specifically, meta:to_table has userdata ItemStacks in the inventory field 00:01 Uberi|Busy and worldedit can't serialize userdata 00:01 Uberi|Busy so we need to special case it and add an ItemStack serializer 00:02 busdriver yeah im having trouble saving detached inventories between sessions too 00:02 Uberi|Busy I don't think its very elegant but it will work 00:02 Uberi|Busy busdriver: if you wait a day or two, I'll have a solution ready :) 00:02 Uberi|Busy using table.save, busdriver? 00:02 busdriver my solution was to save the data in plain text and retrieve it later 00:02 NakedFury dammit my stupid headphones right side just died! 00:03 Uberi|Busy ah 00:04 busdriver i only have one square of detached inventory, so i save stackname and stackqty to meta:set_string 00:04 busdriver or a text file 00:04 Uberi|Busy cool solution 00:04 busdriver all the building plans are saved that way 00:05 busdriver though i mostly use detached inv's as a node chooser rather than a store 00:06 Octupus ANy1 wanna play with me on my server? 00:12 Octupus i guess no1 wanna play with me :l 00:14 busdriver 19hrs, doubt my lag would permit me, maybe around 9-10ish when the network calms down 00:14 Octupus ? 00:14 OldCoder Hi 00:15 Octupus hi 00:15 Uberi|Busy hey Octupus 00:16 Octupus hi 00:17 busdriver how long does it take for the weather to change? 00:18 Octupus hours 00:19 Uberi|Busy depends on your climate 00:19 Uberi|Busy and the current conditions 00:19 Uberi|Busy a low pressure front generally takes a few days to move through a region 00:19 busdriver i guess this testing phase is gonna take a while 00:19 busdriver lol 00:20 Uberi|Busy testing phase? 00:20 busdriver i made this huge sign that shows real world weather, thought it would be cool for server localization 00:20 Uberi|Busy oh wow 00:20 busdriver now i have to wait to see if it updates as it should 00:20 Uberi|Busy that is awesome 00:21 Uberi|Busy I always wanted a Lua powered sign that could run scripts, though 00:21 busdriver well its like a bigger version of xyz's/pilzs' sign mod 00:21 busdriver instead of collating small pngs together to form a single texture, your using seperate nodes for each letter/number 00:22 busdriver but the process of walking a string to print each char, the same 00:22 Octupus RealBadAngel,there is a person on my server who loves your mod he is new to them though :) 00:22 RealBadAngel so? 00:23 busdriver flog him 00:23 busdriver :p 00:23 busdriver (kidding) 00:23 Octupus i just telling u he likes it :) 00:24 busdriver still 31 F in anchorage :( 00:25 Uberi|Busy hey that could work 00:25 Uberi|Busy I'd build giant seven seg displays in mesecons 00:25 Uberi|Busy and display the current time with it 00:25 busdriver gimme a sec ill show you a pic 00:29 Uberi|Busy looks like that text in mauvebic's sig image 00:30 khonkhortisan if mods are all in the same namespace, what separates them? 00:31 Uberi|Busy nothing whatsoever 00:34 Uberi|Busy well, I hear you can get file-local variables using local in the top level, but haven't tested it 00:37 khonkhortisan yep local traps functions in their files 00:38 Uberi|Busy no mod-local namespace AFAIK 00:38 khonkhortisan huh. A crash in after_place_node duplicated the node. 00:45 RealBadAngel ive heard another duplicating issue 00:46 RealBadAngel thx to lags. some1 was repairing the pick in my Tool Workshop 00:46 RealBadAngel and took it away from the slot, while it was repaired 00:47 RealBadAngel in time im changing the wear of the item and putting it back modified into the slot 00:47 RealBadAngel user ended with two mese picks 00:49 RealBadAngel and theres no way to change items props without "taking" copy it from inv and replacing the original 00:49 khonkhortisan after_place_node must be run in-between recording the node being placed and removing the node from the player. 00:50 Octupus rba y does the chainsaw not work on my server 00:50 Octupus does it require timber 00:50 RealBadAngel it doesnt 00:50 RealBadAngel timber code is already in it 00:51 Octupus so how come it doesnt work 00:51 RealBadAngel check for tree node names, maybe you have modified trees or something? 00:51 RealBadAngel try it on papyrus, cacti 00:51 Octupus ok 00:51 RealBadAngel and dont forget to charge it 00:52 Octupus OHHH SO WONDER 00:53 RealBadAngel ? 00:53 Octupus it wasnt charged XD 00:53 RealBadAngel hehehe 00:55 Octupus thanks friend and the kid on my server sayts thank also 00:55 RealBadAngel youre welcome 00:55 Octupus :) 00:55 Octupus now i neeed to make better enery 00:55 Octupus my enery decreases fast 00:56 RealBadAngel by now i suggest water mills 00:56 RealBadAngel theyre slightly overpowered 00:56 RealBadAngel need to fine tune them ;) 00:57 Octupus im getting pisse 00:57 Octupus *pissed 00:57 Octupus i built my house and pieces of it are disappearing 00:58 RealBadAngel dont play with laser at home? ;) 00:58 Octupus im not XD 00:58 Octupus i think worldedit :) 00:58 busdriver i got disapearing nodes too, its a bu 00:58 busdriver *bug 00:58 Octupus o 00:58 busdriver do they reappear a few seconds later? 00:58 Octupus no 00:58 busdriver weird 00:59 Octupus i going to lay off of worldedit for now 00:59 busdriver sometimes mine disappear, reappear, disappear again and so on 00:59 RealBadAngel here too, but thats a feature ;) 00:59 Octupus lolz 00:59 busdriver not a feature when youre trying to build lol 00:59 Octupus u shud see my house rba :) 00:59 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmMuDsHGAM0&feature=plcp 01:00 Octupus not on europe btw 01:00 RealBadAngel on my server ive made floor opens and stairs leading to the basement 01:01 RealBadAngel just with push of the button 01:01 busdriver i used to have these doors that appeared and disappeared but those are pointless w/ nodeboxes now 01:01 Octupus your floor is awesome :D 01:02 busdriver sliding doors could be cool for grocery stores tho 01:02 Octupus MY NODES DISAPPEARED AGIAN WTF 01:02 busdriver kill them 01:03 NakedFury server lag 01:03 Octupus i think it because it rain here just no 01:03 Octupus *now 01:03 busdriver doesnt explain how it could be server lag here when im playing intranet lol 01:03 busdriver rain? 01:04 busdriver in the map or outside? lol 01:04 Octupus rained 01:04 Octupus outside 01:04 RealBadAngel server is melting? 01:04 Octupus no 01:04 RealBadAngel corroding? 01:04 RealBadAngel :) 01:04 Octupus :) 01:05 Octupus i think its overuse of worldedit 01:05 busdriver whats youre FPS 01:05 Octupus hold on 01:05 Octupus i refresh 01:05 Octupus waiting for the textures to load 01:06 Octupus rba im going to make a trash can 01:06 Octupus :) 01:06 busdriver i dont even play if its under 35 01:08 busdriver worldedit shouldn't lag your server unless its not releasing its data after operations 01:08 busdriver keeping large tables of pos's in memory and all 01:08 khonkhortisan worldedit does lag 01:08 NakedFury there are moments when server deletes blocks 01:08 khonkhortisan depending on how large of an area you are changing 01:09 Uberi|Busy not afterwards, though, worldedit uses constant memory while idle 01:09 Uberi|Busy and most use constant memory except the serialization commands 01:10 Octupus it has gone a solid 5 minutes without the nodes being deeted 01:10 busdriver weird, mn doesn't lag on me and im editing multiple selections at a time 01:10 Octupus I spoke 2 soon 01:10 Octupus its gone XD 01:11 OldCoder Hi 01:12 Uberi|Busy Octupus: yeah, operations sometimes take a long time to finish and it only updates afterwards 01:12 OldCoder Octupus, Your nodes | are gone from your abodes | Oh Nodes | You have been eaten by Toads | What does this forebodes? 01:12 khonkhortisan that's minetest's fault it updates afterwards 01:12 Octupus i built it legit now lets see what happens 01:12 Octupus :D 01:12 khonkhortisan worldedit does things one (or two) nodes at a time 01:13 busdriver tedious 01:13 busdriver if you have a dozen holes to fill then you gotta do them one at a time 01:13 busdriver im not as young as the rest of you lol 01:14 Octupus Whta else shud i do with technic 01:15 Octupus RealBadAngel,can a single water mill go to 100% production? 01:16 busdriver water should have a flow direction, then we could build real dams, the huge kind lol 01:16 Octupus XD :) 01:16 busdriver right now you put a block in water and the water doesn't overflow or go around it 01:16 busdriver but one block of source is enough to flood a large basement lol go fig 01:17 Octupus na maybe 3 01:17 khonkhortisan it is impossible to create an anti-grav liquid. 01:18 busdriver how would that work? it would flow in all directions filling the region? 01:18 Octupus yes 01:18 busdriver and i thought you wanted to reduce lag lol 01:19 khonkhortisan minetest doesn't have the concept of water volume 01:19 khonkhortisan there's a mod for minecraft that does that, I think 01:19 Octupus o 01:21 busdriver i think well have real weather before we get things like antigrav and volume for water 01:21 busdriver though all those things should be done in cpp 01:23 khonkhortisan real weather would require knowing where the clouds are. Clouds are done in the client, mods are done in the server. 01:23 busdriver try using entities for weather lol (good luck) 01:23 khonkhortisan What is needed to do water volume is to have true meshes for nodes 01:23 khonkhortisan I did that 01:24 khonkhortisan only 49 entities can fit in a block 01:24 busdriver i tried it for snow, it sucked 01:24 khonkhortisan node rain is even worse 01:24 busdriver all that lag for a bit of visual fluff 01:24 busdriver id rather insert a "slide" in front of the camera 01:25 busdriver different chunks different weather properties = different slide 01:25 khonkhortisan that could be done with an entity, but would it rain indoors? 01:25 busdriver imagine real fog 01:25 busdriver the low-lying type 01:26 khonkhortisan bzflag does per-object fog, everywhere type. a pov-modeler can do low fog 01:27 khonkhortisan I have 1G memory and 3G swap. Is that good? 01:27 busdriver thats alot of swap 01:27 busdriver you could get away with 1.15g swap 01:27 busdriver enough for standby/sleep 01:28 busdriver thats mostly what its for these days 01:28 khonkhortisan I don't know how to hibernate the computer 01:28 busdriver if you use swap for actual memory then you got a leak somewhere and need a reboot 01:28 khonkhortisan minetest is my leak, and a reboot doesn't help 01:28 busdriver i know 01:29 busdriver 3 hours play is = 1 reboot min for me 01:29 khonkhortisan yuck 01:29 khonkhortisan I usually reboot when the power goes out 01:29 busdriver the damn hard drive even turns off when MT crashes 01:29 khonkhortisan ? 01:30 busdriver when MT hangs, the drive turns off then on 01:30 busdriver thats only when it freezes 01:30 khonkhortisan Do you have some special variable drive speed? 01:31 busdriver not really 01:31 OldCoder Zilvarael, hello 01:31 busdriver the drive is old though 01:31 busdriver the other computers it just freezes, no drive off/on 01:32 busdriver only one of my comps has enough ram to run my server (3gs) 01:32 khonkhortisan that's triple what I have 01:33 busdriver 3gs with an AMD dualcore 01:34 busdriver the others are all intels, with 2gs or less ram 01:34 busdriver dont run servers for very long 01:34 khonkhortisan I have dualcore, I just need to fill all the memory slots 01:35 khonkhortisan and my router is broken just enough to not be able to run servers but to work for everything else 01:35 busdriver depends what DE you use too 01:35 khonkhortisan you can run servers longer than I can 01:35 busdriver gnome and KDE use anywhere between 2-3x the ram the lighter DE's use 01:35 khonkhortisan maybe I should switch back from kde to xfce 01:35 busdriver if all you want to do is play, id suggest setting up a special openbox or lxde session to play from 01:36 busdriver and if you didnt already, check your autostart for useless daemons and helpers 01:37 * khonkhortisan switches DEs 01:37 busdriver anyways when you login normally you should be able to chose your DE, so you're not making any permanent changes 01:39 Octupus Some1 shud make a mod where a server admin can remove a mod 01:39 Octupus Mod Idea ^ 01:39 Octupus XD 01:40 OldCoder khonkhortisan, wb 01:40 khonkhortisan hello 01:40 OldCoder Octupus, start a text file please with your ideas 01:40 OldCoder Do not lose them. Instead, gather them. 01:40 OldCoder Make it a text file and not DOC 01:41 OldCoder You can use Notepad to do this 01:41 Octupus ok 01:41 Octupus :) 01:41 busdriver how could you remove a mod ingame? 01:41 Octupus exactly mod idea :) 01:41 khonkhortisan you can't add, remove, or reload mods ingame, yet. 01:41 OldCoder busdriver, I doubt the API does this generally; it is an idea for discussion 01:41 busdriver you simply cant undeclare nodes while playing :/ 01:41 OldCoder You are correct 01:41 Octupus even khonk said it YET 01:41 Octupus :) 01:41 busdriver you can put a condition 01:41 busdriver around the whole mod 01:41 OldCoder But there may be a middle ground 01:41 OldCoder Yes 01:41 OldCoder busdriver, that is the idea 01:41 khonkhortisan it takes some doing, but you can reload (simple) mods using another mod. 01:41 busdriver and use a variable/chat command to disable /enable it 01:42 busdriver but why would you want to enable/disable mods within the same session? 01:42 busdriver doesn't privs accomplish the same thing? 01:43 khonkhortisan developing mods without restarting over and over, and updating mods on public servers 01:47 busdriver :/ 01:47 OldCoder busdriver, why the :/ ? 01:47 busdriver because if you edit code, you must restart 01:47 busdriver its not the same as simply enabling/disabling 01:47 busdriver theire read once, at startup 01:48 busdriver youd have to ask celeron for a 'recycle' button along with the exit, exit to menu, etc. 01:48 khonkhortisan you can add a chatcommand to dofile your mod, but it doesn't load multiple lua files or understand modpack.txt 01:48 busdriver like quick reboots on phones 01:48 busdriver hmm 01:49 busdriver i think you might be able to use a chat command to specify a filename for dofile 01:49 busdriver seems kinda unsecure though 01:50 busdriver i dont know how privs work but id watch out for hacked clients if you did that 01:52 khonkhortisan it's not the client you would have to worry about, it's putting bad arguments into the chatcommand 01:52 busdriver but even feeding it a filename through chat, im not sure you can still declare nodes once the world is loaded 01:52 busdriver they certainly wouldn't be in the creative inventory, youd have to rebuild that index too 01:52 khonkhortisan you can redeclare nodes 01:53 busdriver while in-session? 01:53 khonkhortisan there's lots of little things that wouldn't work the same 01:53 khonkhortisan yes 01:53 busdriver i can change fields of nodes 01:53 khonkhortisan ":modname:nodename" 01:53 busdriver thats not for redeclaring nodes 01:53 busdriver thats for declaring nodes belonging to other mods 01:53 khonkhortisan but that's what it does 01:53 khonkhortisan try redeclaring your own node from your own mod, it won't work 01:54 khonkhortisan "modname:nodename" only works the first time, ":modname:nodename" works any time 01:54 busdriver well if its not acting properly thats cuz its meant for you to be able to add stuff to other peoples mods 01:55 busdriver if someone has farm mod and you have say, apples mod, you create a node called orchard but you do it like ":farm:orchard" 01:55 khonkhortisan that's how you're supposed to do it 01:55 busdriver cuz you want your orchard to only work with farms not by itself lets say 01:56 busdriver well yeah but if you use it as not intended don't expect forward compatibility in behaviour 01:56 khonkhortisan also have to write farm in depends.txt 01:56 busdriver not necessarily 01:56 busdriver you can check if farm exists before declaring the child 01:58 busdriver check for a node or if the filepath is there 01:58 busdriver minetest.registered_items['farm:randomnode'] 01:59 busdriver if it returns true, then declare the child to farm 01:59 busdriver is not nil i mean 01:59 busdriver just put that as the if condition lol 02:03 Octupus ik something was gonna happen to the nodes again 02:05 busdriver try reducing your viewing range 02:09 Zilvarael OldCoder: Sup! Sorry it took so long... xD 02:09 OldCoder Hi 02:13 Zilvarael Whats up man! :D 02:20 OldCoder Zilvarael, Who, me? I have set up a LevelsDB world for testing 02:21 OldCoder In theory it will be faster for larger worlds 02:21 OldCoder Port 30013 02:23 Zilvarael I'ma check it out. 02:24 Zilvarael Sooooo......slowwwwww......down....loooaaadddd.. 02:25 NakedFury http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/mineinfo.html#SECTION03 02:25 NakedFury download client for OC's servers 02:25 NakedFury the big 30mb version loads very fast 02:26 OldCoder NakedFury, Yes 02:26 OldCoder I'd like to make that happen for Linux too 02:26 OldCoder Probably by allowing the cache to be loaded from the program tree 02:28 Zilvarael Grabbing... Might be a while.... since I am likely going to go watch some stuff till 12:00am my time... what time is it for you? 02:29 NakedFury 10.30 pm 02:30 NakedFury but I do recommend that big client download 02:30 NakedFury it contains lots of mods so not just connecting to OC's servers is fast, others too 02:33 OldCoder NakedFury, I will look at doing a Linux version at some point 02:34 NakedFury is a universal linux possible? so it can be used on all stuff linux not just ubuntu, kubuntu, snd its hundred of ubuclones and others like debian, etc etc etc 02:34 NakedFury that would help others more than me 02:56 OldCoder NakedFury, sure 02:56 OldCoder NakedFury, Some distros are like that if you poke at them 02:57 OldCoder It's basically about separating conflicting libraries and sorting out packages 03:57 Zilvarael OldCoder: Whats the server for the test? 03:57 OldCoder Hey 03:57 OldCoder minetest.org 03:57 OldCoder Zilvarael, ^ 03:58 Zilvarael Ahh default. Otay :D 03:58 OldCoder I'll grant you interact 03:58 OldCoder Hold on 03:58 OldCoder Zilvarael, indicate your name if you join 03:58 Zilvarael Will do :D 03:59 OldCoder Zilvarael, you are privved; fly included 04:00 OldCoder NakedFury has been building 04:00 Zilvarael Assuming it stops crashing on me xD 04:00 OldCoder Zilvarael, ? 04:00 OldCoder I wish to debug all connect issues eventually 04:00 Zilvarael I have been in "Not Responding" for the last three - Four minutes. 04:00 NakedFury I was using WE to dig a thousand levels deep hole with stairs 04:00 OldCoder NakedFury, Hah 04:01 OldCoder I must preserve that 04:01 OldCoder Zilvarael, sorry to hear it 04:01 NakedFury not entirely done 04:01 OldCoder If anybody has clues 04:01 OldCoder NakedFury, The world will be retained 04:01 OldCoder Time will not be wasted 04:01 NakedFury sometimes it doesn actually dig the desired numbers 04:02 NakedFury right now I think its at -500 y 04:02 OldCoder Huh 04:02 NakedFury -445.5 y 04:02 OldCoder Zilvarael, k toggles free movement 04:02 OldCoder Zilvarael, space goes up. I forget the down key 04:03 OldCoder World seems to work fine so far 04:03 NakedFury K to activate fly 04:03 Zilvarael Whoot! Thanks. 04:03 NakedFury J to active fast move or slow move 04:03 OldCoder In theory it will be faster than SQLite3 04:03 NakedFury Space bar to go up 04:03 NakedFury Shift to go down 04:04 NakedFury hmm //stack y -500 didnt work. only made it for about 100 -y 04:04 NakedFury and dammit why is there sand here 04:04 OldCoder NakedFury, I am adding this world to the official list 04:04 OldCoder For now I will call it Metropolis 04:05 NakedFury you can use it to test all sort of stuff 04:05 Zilvarael HEY! SKINZ! 04:06 Zilvarael Gimme a second I'm going to relog. I need to get my wasd wqorking again right now its forcing directional buttons. 04:08 OldCoder Zilvarael, I'll change the defaults back to WASD if most people prefer; and they seem to 04:08 Zilvarael Oh that is you lol 04:08 NakedFury another nice addition to the game: adding LoadOuts or alternate keys 04:09 NakedFury so Loadout 1 could be WASD and loadout 2 with arrows 04:11 NakedFury shit need new headphones 04:12 NakedFury am sad, this one has a long cable and it sounds great 04:12 OldCoder NakedFury, you should save that point and add to a collection 04:18 NakedFury I think //stack maybe be broken or something 04:18 NakedFury I want it to stack y -200 yet it goes at most for 100 or less 04:19 NakedFury ok bug encountered 04:19 NakedFury reached 1k 04:20 NakedFury all blocks area protected 04:20 Zilvarael I think I'm going to log out... friend of mine is trying to get me to jump into GW2 Q.Q 04:33 OldCoder Zilvarael, k 04:34 OldCoder NakedFury, shall I remove node owner mod? 04:34 OldCoder Octupus recommends a different onw 04:34 OldCoder *one 04:34 OldCoder Or is there a possible problem' 04:34 OldCoder with the engine? 04:34 NakedFury well yes to check if I can do anything at 1000 04:35 NakedFury -1000 04:35 OldCoder All right 04:35 OldCoder Odd 04:35 OldCoder Wait 04:35 NakedFury check yourself 04:35 NakedFury teleport to -999 y 04:35 NakedFury mine then go for -1000 then mine 04:36 OldCoder I believe you 04:36 OldCoder Hold on 04:36 NakedFury its weird and ridiculous 04:36 OldCoder NakedFury, world restarted without node_owner 04:36 OldCoder But protector is still there 04:38 NakedFury there is a quirky weird music sound used every time I enter the game. as if a hummm from when you start surround sound or something. huuuuummmmmm then fades 04:40 OldCoder k 04:41 NakedFury no dice 04:41 NakedFury same problem 04:41 OldCoder So not the node owner 04:41 NakedFury yep 04:42 OldCoder Odd 04:42 NakedFury very 04:42 NakedFury let me check in singleplayer 04:42 OldCoder restarting u.s. worlds 04:45 NakedFury mega gay 04:45 NakedFury even in single player 04:45 OldCoder Hmm 06:58 TheRedMood Compiling my own kernel :) 06:58 TheRedMood It is so FUN! 06:58 TheRedMood :D 06:59 TheRedMood OldCoder: A linux distro called bedrock :) 08:21 TheRedMood I just helped someone :) 08:28 TheRedMood Taoki: ! 08:28 TheRedMood How are you, miss. 08:29 Taoki hi :) 08:29 Taoki Just woke up. Gonna finish readiny my spam of 1000 new mails and stuff I find in the morning, then getting back to the 3D meshes code, still lots to do 08:29 TheRedMood Nice :) 08:30 TheRedMood you must have an important job, miss. 08:30 Taoki Not at all, just a lot of subscriptions 08:30 TheRedMood Ohh 08:31 TheRedMood :) 08:31 Taoki My job is open source gaming mostly :) 08:31 TheRedMood Well, is there a place I can donate, miss? 08:32 TheRedMood I have donated to dwarf fortress so if you contribute to something I like i will push that button, miss :) 08:43 Taoki Will keep in mind. Having money issues and donations are appreciated for what I do. Even without them I'll always love working in open-source software and contributing, but... they help 08:43 Taoki Will see if my 3D models are liked ^^ 08:43 Taoki Focus is just for them to be good however. Still quite a bit to do 08:43 TheRedMood X3 08:46 TheRedMood I am trying to install something called bedrock linux 08:47 TheRedMood Have been compiling the kernel for some time now 08:47 TheRedMood Running it inside virutal box 08:49 TheRedMood Taoki: It is kind complex, but I love it :) Think of the endless possibilities, miss! 08:49 TheRedMood Isen't it ammasing. 08:53 Taoki thanks 08:54 TheRedMood Thanks for what? 09:16 Taoki TheRedMood: For thinking the mod is good and finding it useful 09:17 Taoki And, just finished dealing with the emails and new submissions from this morning. Now back to working on the code 09:17 tripod_ TheRedMood: im running bedrock linux 09:18 TheRedMood Nice! 09:18 TheRedMood :D 09:19 TheRedMood I am testing it on a virtual box 09:19 tripod_ im running it 09:19 TheRedMood Nice 09:19 tripod_ i have arch system with bedrock 09:19 tripod_ using deb packages 09:19 tripod_ quite nice 09:19 tripod_ going to do a deb install with arch packages 09:19 TheRedMood I am just done compiling the kernel 09:19 tripod_ and when steam comes 09:19 tripod_ ubuntu 09:19 TheRedMood :) 09:19 tripod_ nice mate. 09:19 tripod_ paradigm, the guy who dev's it 09:19 TheRedMood liquorix 09:19 tripod_ i know 09:20 tripod_ well online 09:20 TheRedMood I am making a script for intsalling it 09:20 TheRedMood Or i am trying 09:20 tripod_ but been at bedrock since the start, i hope it takes off. 09:20 tripod_ i really really hope it takes off. 09:20 TheRedMood Trying to spread it :) 09:20 TheRedMood Yeah 09:20 TheRedMood Well, is it from scratch or did you use the package thats on the websiter 09:20 tripod_ from scratch 09:20 TheRedMood nice 09:20 TheRedMood me too 09:20 TheRedMood What kernel config did you use? 09:21 TheRedMood I have a old gentoo config 09:21 TheRedMood For my real pc at home 09:21 TheRedMood :) 09:22 tripod_ i use my old slackware cfg for my kernel 09:22 tripod_ last VM i did of it i pulled the latest stable kernel from kernel.org 09:23 TheRedMood Nice :9 09:23 TheRedMood Well i am doign this from a windows pc 09:23 TheRedMood But i am doign it rough ssh 09:23 tripod_ noice 09:23 tripod_ brb 09:23 tripod_ late dinner. 09:23 TheRedMood to my home slackware box 09:47 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 09:52 jin_xi Hi Adam 09:59 ruskie *yawn* 10:02 TheRedMood Well 10:02 TheRedMood Hello :) 10:02 TheRedMood Its a wonderfull morning to compile stuff :) 10:04 TheRedMood tripod_: Are you still there :o 10:09 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=48815 10:12 * ruskie notes it's noon and there's not much compiling going on just work 10:18 jin_xi PilzAdam: nice post. i think i'd like more options to control placement tho, rarity alone leaves too much room for random 10:18 PilzAdam worlds are random 10:18 jin_xi sure, and thats very nice and appreciated 10:23 jin_xi but i think some parameters could work great too 10:25 TheRedMood Well 10:25 TheRedMood I am compiling stuff :9 10:25 TheRedMood :) 10:29 jin_xi now how is that more interesting than say... copying stuff? it sure scrolls past faster than this channel tho... 10:30 TheRedMood Well, that is because I am not allowed to talk freely in here :) 10:30 TheRedMood ohh 10:30 TheRedMood Because compiling is a interesting process 10:31 TheRedMood Its like watching a lavalamp. 10:31 TheRedMood Never gets old :) 10:31 * ruskie knows the feeling 10:32 TheRedMood :) 10:34 PilzAdam GitHub: 13 minutes ago 10:34 PilzAdam celeron55 created the celeron55/minetest wiki 10:35 jin_xi did you answer his survey? 10:35 PilzAdam yep 10:38 TheRedMood A damn. 10:38 TheRedMood It failed :( 10:45 celeron55 PilzAdam: i removed it 10:45 celeron55 but for some reason github announced it as being created 10:45 celeron55 buggy crap 8) 10:45 PilzAdam git never forgets anything ;-) 10:46 celeron55 >developing mods without restarting over and over 10:46 celeron55 reloading a single mod is pretty much totally impossible 10:46 celeron55 but it *might* be possible to implement reloading everything while running 10:47 PilzAdam if runtime overriding of nodes would be possible you can create a mod for that 10:47 celeron55 it isn't designed for that and there are probably some pitfalls 10:50 celeron55 hmm, it could be simplest to just implement restarting the server without dropping clients 10:51 celeron55 well, dunno 10:51 PilzAdam this is not very important 10:51 PilzAdam MT is not designed for that 11:01 tripod_ TheRedMood: i am now 11:10 Taoki I have a question. For get_properties in LUA, you use getstringfield to get a string. What if you want to pass an array string? 11:11 Taoki getstringfield(L, -1, "visual", prop->visual); ---- This works 11:11 Taoki getstringfield(L, -1, "textures", prop->textures); ---- This doesn't because textures is an array 11:11 Taoki And I need to pass it over as the full array, maybe have LUA read it to a string[] 11:12 Taoki Not sure if there's any point in allowing LUA to read the textures of a mesh, but while I'm at it I'd rather add that as well as it can be useful 11:12 Taoki BRB 11:22 Basstard` 1.0 yet? 11:37 Taoki Anyone have an example script using get_properties() in LUA? 11:39 celeron55 you need to construct or read the lua table by hand 11:40 celeron55 getstringfield is actually implemented in there too; you could make a getstringarrayfield or something 8) 11:41 celeron55 search for lua_next in there, that is used for iterating tables 11:42 celeron55 (hopefully you do know the general idea of the lua C api) 11:43 Taoki I'm learning the LUA C++ API as I go now. But getting the textures isn't as important, so I might leave that for later 11:45 celeron55 umm... what are you doing, actually? 11:46 celeron55 the textures are already read in there 11:48 celeron55 oh.. umm... wtf 11:49 celeron55 there is scriptapi_luaentity_get_properties and then there is read_object_properties 11:49 celeron55 the latter reads the textures 11:50 TheRedMood tripod_: Well the script doesn't work right now x3 11:51 TheRedMood tripod_: Well, I am working on it :) Most of the faults are related to the lack of conditions and so on in it 11:52 Taoki ah, I understand. I think I was confusing the two 11:52 celeron55 i don't get it... the former calls the latter, but the former does some of the things for an another time 11:53 celeron55 well, whatever, just don't confuse them and it'll be fine (somebody'll need to sort that crap out sometime) 11:53 Taoki Unfortunately, buth get_properties and read_object_properties crash the server at their current state 11:54 Taoki local test obj:get_properties({"visual"}) 11:54 celeron55 there is no ObjectRef:get_properties 11:55 Taoki ok. I was trying to use it the same way as :set_properties lol 11:55 celeron55 why would you do that anyway 11:55 Taoki I'm only doing it for testing now. Trying to see if LUA can also read a player's mesh other than just set it 11:56 Taoki Using a print function to see that 11:56 celeron55 the design is that you only set them, never read them 11:56 Taoki ah, ok 12:01 TheRedMood NEKO! 12:01 TheRedMood :D 12:01 TheRedMood I realised something yesterday! 12:01 TheRedMood You are not a cat! 12:01 TheRedMood :o 12:02 TheRedMood You are a ..... 12:02 TheRedMood Half-cat! 12:02 TheRedMood :o 12:02 NekoGloop ...yes. 12:02 TheRedMood :D 12:03 NekoGloop now, someone explain... why the hell does everyone not listen to me in the slightest. 12:09 NekoGloop OldCoder: requesting build permission on minetest.org:30006 12:11 tripod_ nice one TheRedMood 12:18 Taoki For everyone who's interested in the progress of 3D models: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=48827#p48827 12:19 tripod_ i am 12:19 tripod_ xD 12:19 Taoki Pretty much, everything is done apart from the code to switch animations. I'll be getting to that next 12:19 Taoki :) 12:19 NekoGloop looks like a penguin 12:19 jin_xi Taoki: nice work, keep it up! 12:19 Taoki NekoGloop: It's a randomly extruded sphere. A good player model is the last concern for now 12:19 Taoki Need to get the code done first 12:43 Taoki Ok, I believe I found a model format that should work with irrlicht and support rigs: b3d 12:43 Taoki Seems super kart tux uses this, so it should be fine 12:44 Taoki Anyone experienced with modelling got any objections to this if another format isn't found? Once again it is VERY difficult to find a mesh format that works with Irrlicht that does what I'm intending it to, so I hope this is fine 12:51 TheRedMood X3 12:51 TheRedMood You worrie way to much, miss. 12:51 Taoki Just wanna do it right :P I worry more about how i'll get the animation code running 12:51 TheRedMood Oh, 12:51 TheRedMood That is going to be rough.... 12:51 Taoki I'll also need a bone attachment code. So that players can visibly hold items like in MC 12:57 Octupus hello 12:58 Taoki I'm currently trying to find a b3d export script for blender 2.64. If anyone knows one, please post a link 12:58 Taoki And of course if you want 3D players :) 13:01 Taoki Trying this one so far: http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=46188 Will see if I can get another simple test mesh to export 13:06 tripod glhf 13:15 Octupus can any1 tell me what mod makes the server crashes and deletes recent blocks 13:23 TheRedMood I need to go 13:23 Octupus Can any1 assist me 13:23 Octupus bye 13:26 Octupus can any1 of you help me 13:29 jin_xi what up? 13:30 Octupus i have disapperaing nodes on my server since last night 13:31 jin_xi mmkay... can you be a bit more specific on how they disappear? 13:32 jin_xi is it purely visual or do nodes vanish from the map? 13:32 Octupus vanish 13:33 jin_xi thats weird. is the map regenerating? 13:33 Octupus no 13:33 Taoki Weird, for some reason animated meshes require new settings in the client to load their format, while obj didn't x_x 13:33 Octupus like recent block disappear 13:34 Octupus i buil 1 side of my house 8 times 13:34 jin_xi idk. but did you recently change something in your setup? 13:34 Octupus removed a mod 13:35 jin_xi which mod? pls be specific, it avoids those questions... 13:35 Octupus node_owner my cornernote 13:35 Octupus *by 13:36 jin_xi so, here is my guess: 13:37 jin_xi ownership of land is somehow still present and prevents you from changing nodes 13:37 Octupus how can i remove ownership of land? 13:37 jin_xi never used this mod, don't know how it works and what it does to world files. 13:38 NekoGloop node_ownership? 13:38 Octupus no 13:38 NekoGloop it brutally maims the world files. 13:38 Octupus node_Owner 13:38 Octupus i might have to go to a back up 13:38 Octupus and safe my friends world 13:41 Octupus *house 13:43 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyJo-65hEx0&feature=related Kalinka? Malinka? 13:46 Octupus just waiting for the big man to wake up 13:47 NekoGloop which one, the old one? ;) 13:48 Octupus :D 13:49 jin_xi NekoGloop ok, this one i liked 13:49 NekoGloop eh? 13:49 jin_xi dat song 13:49 NekoGloop note: they're both crossdressers :D 13:49 NekoGloop one is a girl dressing like a guy, the other a guy dressing like a girl. 13:54 Taoki Seems that the texture cache in the client has serious oddities with loading files 13:55 Taoki obj worked, now for animated meshes it expects me to load some data from some cache 13:55 NekoGloop enable_texture_atlas=false 13:55 Taoki Data from cache cannot even be loaded like a normal file it appears 13:55 Taoki Is anyone experienced with all that stuff 13:56 NekoGloop just kill the minetest source. 13:57 jin_xi and your point is? 13:57 NekoGloop ? 14:00 Octupus XD the guy stole wiz khalifa's car XD 14:02 Octupus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRaWnd3LJfs 14:03 Octupus some1 watch that some hardcore matrix shit 14:03 Octupus and need for speed 14:04 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_GmE5KcSq0&feature=watch_response 14:05 Octupus this man out running the coppers and stole wiz khalifa's car XD 14:07 Taoki Can someone clarify how that file cache mess works please? 14:08 Octupus i wonder when the boss man will be awake 14:09 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-11nr34sIJE 14:09 NekoGloop and HL him endlessly, he'll wake up eventually :3 14:10 OldCoder Hello 14:10 OldCoder NekoGloop, Octupus Taoki how are you? 14:11 NekoGloop haha 14:11 NekoGloop waiting for interact on minetest.org:30006 :3] 14:11 NekoGloop :3* 14:11 OldCoder I have turned atlas off by default for future builds 14:11 Taoki OldCoder: Not well, having an issue with the code being broken 14:11 OldCoder NekoGloop, interact is coming now then 14:11 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY8G0PrVw_M 14:11 OldCoder Taoki, I have not read up yet 14:11 Taoki I need help with it 14:11 OldCoder Taoki, sure 14:11 Taoki ok 14:11 OldCoder Hold on a cat needs interact 14:11 Octupus hi coder 14:11 OldCoder Hi 14:12 Octupus talk on m13 please 14:12 Octupus i need to talk to you 14:12 OldCoder Sure 14:12 OldCoder Wait 14:12 OldCoder Hold on a cat needs interact 14:12 Octupus ok :) 14:12 NekoGloop ^w^ 14:12 OldCoder I may need to be to San Jose again today but I'll be here at least 3 or 4 hours now first 14:13 Octupus ok :) 14:13 OldCoder NekoGloop, what is your NickoGloop in the game? 14:13 NekoGloop NekoGloop 14:13 OldCoder Done 14:13 OldCoder Octupus, coming 14:13 OldCoder Taoki, I will read shortly 14:17 Taoki OldCoder: Some very badly made (IMO) code in the client requires translating each type of file. Apparently it would want me to translate meshes, which is probably not possible. And for OBJ this wasn't needed... the model format normally cannot influence these things 14:18 OldCoder Taoki, I am reading above. Here are two questions. Will removing node ownership and texture atlases both help or are they unrelated? 14:18 Taoki OldCoder: I think unrelated. Hold on, I'll yhow in detail where 14:19 Taoki OldCoder: client.cpp line 808: bool Client::loadMedia(const std::string &data, const std::string &filename) 14:19 OldCoder jin_xi, There was a similar problem with 30000. Weird database damage. I will put Octupus world back a week or two. 14:19 Taoki In that function you must apparently translate each file somehow, and load its data in the cache 14:19 OldCoder Taoki, go on 14:19 Taoki yes, 14:19 OldCoder Taoki, let me read above briefly 14:20 Taoki OldCoder: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=GmNG11y9 This is the entire function 14:20 OldCoder TheRedMood, what would be in Bedrock? A daemon called Fred? 14:20 OldCoder Taoki Reviewing 14:20 Taoki As you can see, images and sounds are both being loaded in a specific way there. Apparently tou somehow extract their data, and put it in the cache 14:21 OldCoder Taoki allow time for review 14:21 Taoki I need to understand how this works and how to add models in that list. 14:21 Taoki sure 14:21 Octupus coder a week or 2 will remove the new spawn 14:21 OldCoder Octupus, that will be fine 14:21 Octupus OHH yea i need to same my house 14:21 OldCoder Taoki, I am reading 14:21 OldCoder Octupus, go do it 14:21 Octupus i forgot :D 14:22 OldCoder Taoki, they are using Irrlicht calls to merge either images or sound files into the current data. The heart of it is: 14:22 OldCoder m_tsrc->insertSourceImage(filename, img); 14:22 OldCoder m_sound->loadSoundData(name, data); 14:22 OldCoder I am reviewing your own comments now 14:23 Taoki OldCoder: Yes. Apparently I need to find a variant for meshes 14:23 OldCoder Or do an end run around the issue 14:23 * OldCoder is reviewing 14:23 OldCoder Taoki, I assume conversion to image at this stage would be out of the question. Correct/ 14:23 OldCoder ? 14:23 Octupus Young and Reckless_Alumni 14:24 OldCoder ? 14:24 Taoki OldCoder: Yes. The model needs to be put in that stream (or what it is) as a model and understood as such 14:24 Octupus ? 14:24 Taoki The format is b3d 14:24 OldCoder Taoki, what if that requires rewrites at a higher level? 14:24 Taoki Normally it shouldn't. Also obj did not require this 14:24 OldCoder What if there is no provision for this in MT in the code that will use the cache? 14:24 OldCoder Wait 14:24 OldCoder OBJ is a model format 14:24 OldCoder Is it not? 14:25 Taoki yes. And that one worked 14:25 Taoki I switched to b3d, now it wants this 14:25 OldCoder Excuse naive question. I assume the answer is no. Mesh can't be converted to OBJ? 14:25 OldCoder I am checking something 14:25 Taoki No, it's a static format. For players we need dynamic format 14:25 Taoki With bone support. b3d has that 14:25 OldCoder It may not be possible at this point without rewrites elsewhere. Hold on. 14:26 Taoki That makes no sense, Irrlicht handles the model rendering. Plus that model format should not change anything 14:26 OldCoder Wait please 14:26 OldCoder Wait 14:27 OldCoder Here is a possible explanation 14:27 OldCoder Confirm this or contradict it if you can. Irrlicht apparently supports OBJ but not BDS. Is there a third format that might work? 14:27 Taoki It's not bds... b3d 14:27 OldCoder Rather B3D 14:27 OldCoder That was a typo 14:27 Taoki Weird, someone said it does IIRC 14:28 OldCoder I am seeing remarks to the effect... 14:28 Taoki super tux kart uses it 14:28 OldCoder That people use a third party exporter 14:28 OldCoder Looking for a conclusive statement now 14:28 Taoki Yes, got one for Blender 14:28 OldCoder If no export 14:28 OldCoder That implies no native support 14:28 OldCoder Hold on 14:29 OldCoder Can import B3D 14:30 OldCoder Taoki, I am seeing import and export for B3D but not much about native support for the format 14:30 OldCoder When you used OBJ... 14:30 OldCoder Was the load call bypassed entirely? 14:30 Taoki odd. I will ask on their channel 14:30 OldCoder Yes 14:30 Taoki Dunno, it just worked 14:30 OldCoder I'd need to see the fork in the path 14:30 Octupus i hate when ppl see me at the supermarket and they are like "Hey what are you doing here" and im just like:Oh you know hunting elephants 14:30 OldCoder ?? 14:31 OldCoder Octupus, what is that about? 14:31 Octupus idk XD 14:31 OldCoder Taoki, I'd need to see where the MT code decides to make the loadMedia call or not 14:31 Taoki OldCoder: What is it with that function I pasted earlier however? Might I need to add an interpreter for meshes there either way? 14:31 Taoki Not sure about that 14:31 Taoki Now i'm confused and worried though :/ 14:31 OldCoder Taoki, see above. I don't know about this but I can probably comment. Don't be worried. This is an exploration. 14:32 OldCoder The question is... 14:32 OldCoder Taoki, (a) Does loadMedia get called for OBJ and work or (b) not get called in the same way at all? 14:32 OldCoder I'd add a printf or >> to find out 14:32 Octupus Boy:SHe's Hot Girl:She's a B**** Girl:He's Hot Boy:He's gay XD 14:32 OldCoder Taoki, looking at the code... 14:32 Taoki OldCoder: Likely not called (b). Because that function filters by extension, and obj was not there 14:32 OldCoder Octupus, ?? 14:33 Octupus XD 14:33 OldCoder Taoki, I was just going to say... 14:33 Taoki OldCoder: Ok, thanks lots doing that and the help, I'll wait for what you find 14:33 OldCoder Taoki, exactly that. Find the code that makes the decision at a higher level and we'll now 14:33 Taoki yes 14:33 Octupus when i was young i used to draw the sun at the corner of the page XD 14:33 OldCoder Taoki, I can't find it myself I'm afraid. Look for the corner that does the decision. I think we can nail this down. 14:34 OldCoder Octupus, most kids do that 14:34 OldCoder Octupus, and I am confused about the supermarket 14:34 OldCoder It does not seem related to your MT house or backup 14:34 OldCoder Taoki, the code says... 14:34 NekoGloop oh no! 14:34 Taoki OldCoder: No idea how to find that either. Not sure how to fix this :( 14:34 NekoGloop i lost the tardis! 14:34 Octupus Boy:ily Girl:say it out makes it special boy:im leaving you XD 14:34 OldCoder Taoki, then I must help you 14:34 Octupus i already saved my house 14:34 OldCoder Octupus, is this from a song? 14:34 OldCoder Taoki, I can grep the code 14:34 Octupus no pictures XD 14:35 Taoki NekoGloop: After this part I can probably do most of the animations on my own. But there are those parts I can't understand 14:35 Taoki Thanks 14:35 Taoki I use gep all the time and still don't find something useful 14:35 Taoki **grep 14:35 OldCoder Octupus, I have no idea what you are talking about but I will go save your world now 14:35 Taoki erm OldCoder not NekoGloop, above ^ 14:35 OldCoder Taoki, I will take half an hour to an hour to catch up with things and save Octupus world. Then I will grep myself. 14:35 Octupus ok 14:35 OldCoder Octupus, it sounds like a soap opera 14:35 Taoki ok, thanks 14:35 Octupus We have 2 addresses memorized 14:36 OldCoder Why is the girl leaving the boy? 14:36 OldCoder Octupus, I am focusing now on the backups. Page me if I'm needed. 14:36 Octupus ours and P>sherman 42 wallaby way sydney 14:36 Octupus Nemo :D 14:36 Octupus ok coder 14:37 OldCoder Octupus, How about October 14? Would that work? 14:37 Octupus il be here posting for randomness 14:37 Octupus yes 14:37 Taoki OldCoder: Someone on #irrlicht confirmed b3d is natively supported by irrlicht. So it's likely a problem here :( (just letting you know for when you will look into it) 14:37 Calinou windows 8 is released today in the USA, amirite? 14:37 Calinou Taoki: WOW POPULAR FORMAT 14:37 Calinou I GUESS GNUKART USES IT 14:37 Calinou YEY 14:37 OldCoder I have no idea 14:37 OldCoder Calinou, comments about the code would be helpful 14:37 Taoki Calinou: Yes. I heard it's one of the good formats 14:37 * Calinou laughs 14:37 Calinou never heard of it > noone uses it 14:37 Taoki Calinou: I'm running into huge issues with the media stream / cache however 14:38 Calinou is it a free format? text or binary? 14:38 Taoki Calinou: ok. Some websites say it's one of the most popular formats for 3D 14:38 Calinou what kind of restrictions does it have? 14:38 Taoki binary, but it's likely free. Super tux kart uses it 14:38 Calinou can blender export/import it fine? 14:38 Octupus i hate when a B***** can take a compliment Your so pretty No im ugly Well f**** it yout ugly then damn 14:38 OldCoder Calinou, through 3rd party filters 14:38 Taoki Yes, with an external exporter. Was hard to find one but I did 14:38 Calinou well that works 14:38 Calinou I bet it can be used then... lacking IQM support :| 14:38 * Calinou slaps irrlicht guys again 14:39 OldCoder Calinou, the problem is that some code decides to call loadMedia for b3d but not for obj 14:39 Taoki Problem is I suddenly need some sort of cache interpreter in the client 14:39 Octupus when ever i see a clownfish i automatically think OMG its nemo XD 14:39 Taoki OldCoder: Exactly 14:39 OldCoder Octupus, best not to see it on your plate then 14:39 Octupus XD 14:40 Taoki Calinou: client.cpp line 808, bool Client::loadMedia(const std::string &data, const std::string &filename) 14:40 Octupus no headphones+yu can talk to me 14:40 Taoki Calinou: For some reason b3d files go through that function while obj ones don't 14:40 Octupus 1 headphone+you can talk to me if i like you 14:40 Octupus 2 headphones= F*** off 14:40 OldCoder Folks I am wondering if I should delete node owner from all the worlds 14:40 Taoki Calinou: And, that function requires me to somehow interpret the model and put it in the stream. 14:41 OldCoder Octupus, what was the node owner mod you liked instead? 14:41 Octupus node_ownersho[ 14:41 Octupus *ship 14:41 Taoki What is the mod about? 14:41 OldCoder I have one by that name. sorry but I need the link again. You did give it before but I wish to be sure. 14:41 OldCoder Taoki, there are three anti griefing mods 14:42 Octupus ok 14:42 OldCoder Protector and two named Node Ownership 14:42 OldCoder I added Protector and one Node Ownership 14:42 Taoki ahh, to make certain blocks or areas unable toe dit by others? 14:42 OldCoder Yes 14:42 Taoki I have my own idea about that which I'd really like to see 14:42 OldCoder Wondering if N.O. is a problem 14:42 Octupus its a pillow its a pet is a PILLOW PET 14:42 OldCoder Oh? 14:42 Octupus XD 14:42 Taoki OldCoder: I'd like a mod where you can use fences with a sign to make an area belong to a player 14:42 Taoki So if it's in the bounds of that fance, only the owner can edit it (plus the fence itself) 14:42 OldCoder Taoki, delineated by fences 14:43 OldCoder Would take a while to code I assume 14:43 OldCoder Unless 14:43 Taoki Yes. And possibly by putting a sign or special item on the fence to mark it as a node ownership fence 14:43 OldCoder Delineation is a concept already in the game 14:43 OldCoder Long term feature 14:43 Octupus http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=846 14:43 Octupus OldCoder,^' 14:43 Taoki yeah, dunno sadly 14:43 OldCoder Others: Please review that thread 14:43 OldCoder Can I get any consensus on the current Node Ownership mod? 14:44 OldCoder As opposed to the one Octupus likes? 14:44 Taoki If freely shaped fences are an issue however, the player could create a cube ouf of placing 8 nodes on the ground, and own that 14:44 OldCoder Taoki, put this in a text file 14:44 Taoki I'll probably post on the forum 14:44 OldCoder Taoki, try to maintain a text file of remarks and ideas 14:44 OldCoder Please do the text file as well 14:44 Octupus that link is the 1 i like 14:45 OldCoder Octupus, I will review but replacing your world first 14:45 Octupus k 14:45 Taoki Calinou: Anyway, any chance you could also help look at this issue with the model formats? I can't understand it and really need help on this one. Didn't even know some files get parsed by that function, whatever its purpose is 14:45 OldCoder Octupus, you are 30004 right? 14:45 Taoki OldCoder: I will when I have more time, very focused with the models for now 14:45 Octupus yep 14:45 Calinou Taoki: who said I was a C++ programmer :P 14:45 NekoGloop node_ownership? 14:45 Taoki Calinou: Just asking :P 14:45 NekoGloop if it's added, I'm off the servers. 14:45 Taoki if you are 14:45 Octupus HEY YOU 14:45 Octupus XD 14:46 Calinou Taoki: maybe look at the image loading code? it supports different formats 14:46 OldCoder Taoki, if you wish to comment on possibilities just paste it into a text file or the ideas may be lost 14:46 NekoGloop greedy bitches steal other people's land 14:46 Calinou also, did you try loading .obj models with editing extensions? 14:46 Taoki Calinou: I looked at a lot of code. The image loading code has image speicfic functions that translate it 14:46 OldCoder NekoGloop, I am not following. Node Ownership is already there and I am considering removing it 14:46 Taoki As well as the sound loading code 14:46 NekoGloop why, if you have protect blocks? 14:46 Taoki OldCoder: Personally, I suggest removing it until we find a way to define owned areas with fences or other nodes 14:46 Calinou supporting just one format would work... having several formats is good but not really needed 14:46 Calinou eg. almost everyone uses .png 14:47 OldCoder To protect things by default 14:47 Calinou jpg is nearly pointless 14:47 OldCoder http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=846 14:47 OldCoder NekoGloop and others review that one 14:47 OldCoder Is it worthwhile? 14:47 OldCoder Octupus recommends it 14:47 NekoGloop no. 14:47 OldCoder Others? 14:47 NekoGloop of course, my opinion doesnt matter 14:48 Calinou minecraft now has a bug tracker: "HI i trayed to play on x360 but i dont find my online friends and i need to pay to have friends????????????" 14:48 NekoGloop you'll add it anyway. 14:48 OldCoder NekoGloop, your opinion matters quite a bit 14:48 Octupus neko what can i do with alatro ? 14:48 OldCoder No comments on the new mod from others? 14:48 Calinou Octupus: tools 14:48 Calinou iirc 14:48 OldCoder http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=846 14:48 OldCoder This one? 14:48 Octupus o 14:49 NekoGloop octupus: tools, blocks. 14:49 Octupus OOHHH 14:49 Octupus i like how kalite hels you 14:49 Calinou every ore allows you to make blocks 14:49 NekoGloop Calinou: not arol. 14:49 NekoGloop Octupus: it also makes a good furnace fuel. 14:50 Octupus server down coder 14:50 OldCoder I will drop the old node owner for now 14:50 OldCoder Octupus, I am replacing your world 14:50 OldCoder Wait 14:50 Octupus ok 14:50 NekoGloop ... help. 14:50 NekoGloop I'm stuck 14:50 OldCoder In 30006 ? 14:50 NekoGloop yes. 14:50 OldCoder How did it happen? 14:51 OldCoder Wait 14:51 iqualfragile hmm… i guess it is allright to add that mod 14:51 NekoGloop teleporter, i teleported to an owned underground area. 14:51 OldCoder How did you get teleport? 14:51 NekoGloop teleporter node 14:51 OldCoder and once there 14:51 OldCoder you are stuck 14:51 OldCoder I will restart without node owner 14:51 NekoGloop cant dig, server says area owned 14:52 OldCoder You have made your point kitty :-) 14:52 NekoGloop i teleported to somewhere protected by protect blocks. 14:52 OldCoder Restarting without node owner temporarily in a minute 14:52 NekoGloop not node_owner 14:52 Octupus Hi adam 14:52 OldCoder NekoGloop, does what I just did fix it? 14:52 PilzAdam hi Octupu 14:52 OldCoder NekoGloop, you can fly now 14:52 iqualfragile hi 14:53 iqualfragile did c55 say anything yesterday after i was gone? 14:53 NekoGloop he's capable of intelligent conversation? 14:54 Octupus ::O 14:54 iqualfragile actualy he is even here right now 14:54 OldCoder Restarting U.S. worlds 14:55 NekoGloop I just got loaded too. 14:55 Octupus I just realized something 14:55 OldCoder O? 14:55 Octupus that there isnt 1 caribbean server 14:55 OldCoder Nope 14:56 Octupus i miss sparky 14:56 Octupus but he has a better life now 14:57 OldCoder Yes 14:58 Octupus who knew that weed makes you skinny 14:59 OldCoder Octupus, your world has been reset 10 days 14:59 OldCoder Try it now 14:59 OldCoder Others: Worlds should be restarted 14:59 OldCoder Node Ownership is removed temporarily 14:59 OldCoder NekoGloop, you have fly 14:59 OldCoder in 30006 14:59 OldCoder Taoki, I will be AFK for 10 minutes then will grep the code 14:59 OldCoder ^ Announcements 14:59 OldCoder 15:00 OldCoder Leaving for 10 seconds to try something 15:00 Taoki OldCoder: ok, 15:00 Octupus how the blog going friend 15:00 OldCoder We will see 15:01 OldCoder I am AFK for 10 minutes or so 15:01 OldCoder Please test the worlds; Octupus especially yours 15:01 Octupus i am 15:01 OldCoder k 15:01 Octupus just waiting for the textrues 15:01 Octupus babyface1031a will get his house 15:02 Octupus :) 15:02 Octupus then il have to worldedit a basement for him 15:02 Octupus Thanks coder :D 15:02 OldCoder Sure 15:02 OldCoder See if it works 15:03 Octupus im trying to find where he had his house 15:04 Taoki OldCoder: When you are back, I spoke with c55 about the media issue. The code going through that function is correct, Client::loadMedia must read all files from the media stream in the memory. It's Irrlicht functionality, and what I apparently need are the irrlicht functions to put / get files from the memory system 15:04 Octupus y cant i open facehouse? 15:04 Octupus coder are the schemeatics in there 15:05 Taoki Seems I am slowly comint to an end of what I can do with the mesh code. Pretty soon I'll need help finsihing it 15:06 Taoki As it's also possible I might have to send animations, texture settings, etc. of the mesh to the client 15:06 Octupus oh well guess il have to rebuild his home 15:08 Jordach hey PilzAdam 15:08 * Jordach has BF3, but no gold 15:08 PilzAdam sup Jordac 15:08 PilzAdam +h 15:09 * PilzAdam just installed Kubuntu 12.10 15:09 Jordach kewl 15:14 Octupus jordach wanna play with me on my server? 15:15 Calinou PilzAdam: Recommends: A Guide To Kubuntu (Amazon) 15:15 Calinou :> 15:17 Octupus calinou wud like to play with me 15:18 iqualfragile calinou: i doubt he will need that 15:18 * iqualfragile just set up fai to install kubuntu! 15:19 Calinou fai? 15:19 Calinou all *buntus suck anyway :p 15:20 iqualfragile yup 15:20 OldCoder Back 15:21 OldCoder Facehouse? 15:21 OldCoder Taoki, all right 15:21 OldCoder Oh 15:21 OldCoder Babyface House 15:21 OldCoder Octupus, wait 15:21 Taoki WB 15:21 OldCoder Octupus, I need to move the schema for you 15:22 OldCoder Octupus, I am stopping your world to move the schema 15:22 Octupus k 15:23 Octupus i almost finished his house anyways but i still need my scheme for my house 15:23 OldCoder coming 15:23 OldCoder Restarting Octuteam world 15:23 OldCoder Octupus, schems are copied 15:24 Octupus k thanks friends 15:24 Octupus *friend 15:25 OldCoder Others please indicate problems if any 15:30 Octupus coder did u backing up helping the server? 15:30 Octupus port:30000 15:34 Octupus that plants shall grow 15:35 Octupus i have most of his house finished 15:35 Octupus just need to place his generaators 15:36 Octupus and grnder and solar panel 15:36 ruskie finally got some copper now just need some diamond 15:38 Octupus Lol 15:38 Octupus im on my server ruskie :) 15:38 Octupus its fun 15:41 Taoki OldCoder: Been talking on the IRC for an hour about this issue. It's hard to both explain and understand responses to / from the problem. All I know so far is that in Client::loadMedia I need to interpret the mesh, possibly as a raw file so the client can get it 15:44 OldCoder Taoki, I feel I can comment further 15:44 RealBadAngel hit all 15:44 OldCoder But I will need to review the code 15:44 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hello 15:44 Taoki hi 15:44 Taoki OldCoder: My code? 15:44 OldCoder Taoki, No; MT 15:44 OldCoder Taoki, there is a key question... 15:45 RealBadAngel Taoki, got any further? 15:45 Taoki ok. Mine if needed can be seen here https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest/compare/models 15:45 Taoki RealBadAngel: With a lot of things, but I've ran into a block for hours 15:45 Taoki Asking over the place on how to fix it 15:45 OldCoder Taoki, I will review the code by tonight. But see what I said above. I need to find out why the function is called for b3d and not obj 15:45 OldCoder Taoki, If you add printfs you may be able to tell 15:45 Taoki RealBadAngel: In client.cpp line 808, Client::loadMedia function: I need to read and interpret the mesh file there. I'm required to do this for the m3d format, which is an animated format 15:45 OldCoder If not, I will need to review for a while 15:46 Taoki OldCoder: From what I understand, it's because the file was read directly and not put through the stream, which was bad. For b3d it's put through the stream 15:46 OldCoder Taoki, wait; is that backwards? 15:46 RealBadAngel taoki, again: towntest mod reading .we files 15:47 OldCoder not put through the stream, which was bad. For b3d it's put through the stream 15:47 OldCoder Isn't that contradictory? 15:47 OldCoder Is loadMedia called for OBJ or not? I gather it is not 15:47 Taoki RealBadAngel: It's a lotmore complicated here. I need to add a new file format through the memory stream. Different than last night's issue 15:47 Octupus I finished babyfaces house 15:48 RealBadAngel now im goin to sleep, be back about midnight CET 15:48 RealBadAngel then if you are online i will try to help 15:48 Octupus bye rba 15:48 OldCoder Taoki, see my question above please 15:49 OldCoder not put through the stream, which was bad. For b3d it's put through the stream 15:49 OldCoder Isn't that contradictory? 15:49 OldCoder Is loadMedia called for OBJ or not? I gather it is not 15:49 RealBadAngel Octopus: not yet, buit soon 15:49 RealBadAngel still eating lunch 15:49 Taoki OldCoder: I'm confused why obj wasn't and b3d is as well 15:50 Taoki But it seems to happen. Important thing is files must go through the stream 15:50 OldCoder Taoki, I wish to know what happens with OBJ 15:50 OldCoder We will need to track that down 15:50 OldCoder Can be done with printfs 15:50 Taoki yes. Sadly I don't know about that 15:50 Taoki hmm 15:50 OldCoder You could simply add >> or printfs and redirect the output 15:51 RealBadAngel yesterday was the same story 15:51 OldCoder as the program is run 15:51 OldCoder Taoki, I see that as the next step 15:51 RealBadAngel Taoki, you just dindnt knew the right questions 15:52 Taoki For now I'm getting closer to the issue slowly, with c55. I need to use createMemoryReadFile in that function and assert it, but must get the mesh properly first 15:52 Taoki By the correct name 15:53 RealBadAngel as i proposed 15:53 RealBadAngel all cached 15:53 RealBadAngel lua just selects the proer one 15:56 Octupus ok rba 15:57 OldCoder Taoki, I repeat: If OBJ does not get passed to that function perhaps we should look at what happens with OBJ 15:57 OldCoder It is a point worth considering 15:59 Octupus i now will finish redecorating my house 16:00 OldCoder Octupus, how did the world work out? 16:00 Octupus great 16:00 Octupus i finished building babyface house without any blcks disappearing 16:00 Octupus thanks 16:01 Octupus i spoke 2 soon 16:03 Octupus FUCK THE WORLD 16:03 Octupus GOOD DAMMIT 16:03 Octupus AH FUCK 16:03 Octupus DAM 16:04 Octupus OldCoder,^ 16:04 OldCoder Hi 16:04 OldCoder ?? 16:05 Octupus i give up 16:05 Taoki OldCoder: I agree. I'd like to find that out. Currently with c55 on getting it to work through the stream, should be nearly there 16:05 OldCoder Octupus, don't give up 16:05 OldCoder This is interesting. That copy of the world is 10 days old. 16:05 OldCoder Octupus, I am running the same server as then. I will review all changes. 16:05 OldCoder Give me a few minutes 16:05 Octupus ok 16:05 Octupus im gradually pissed off 16:06 Octupus i built that fucking wall 11 times now 16:06 OldCoder Yes; that must be annoying 16:06 OldCoder Taoki, O.K. 16:06 OldCoder Octupus, this is odd as the world was back to 10 days ago 16:06 OldCoder I will check all changes shortly on this end 16:06 Octupus k 16:07 jin_xi Octupus: surely it will work once you rebuild it 44 times more 16:07 Octupus im not even gonna build it once mrore 16:07 OldCoder jin_xi, what do you suppose is happening? 16:08 OldCoder I have restored his world to 10 days ago 16:08 OldCoder What is making things disappear? 16:08 OldCoder Vanessa said lag but this is a bug 16:08 OldCoder An odd one 16:08 jin_xi he said he removed a mod, and since then the issue is present 16:09 jin_xi so i presume it is to do with said mod, node_owner i believe. 16:09 jin_xi anyway here is what happens: 16:10 OldCoder jin_xi, the problem occurred before the mod was removed 16:11 OldCoder I removed the mod as an attempted solution 16:11 OldCoder Hmm 16:11 OldCoder He was taken by the net split 16:12 jin_xi_ well, im back 16:12 jin_xi_ with a _ 16:13 Octupus i think it may be the build also 16:14 OldCoder Octupus, the build? Can you explain? 16:15 Octupus umm 16:15 Octupus the version you built for windows 16:15 OldCoder Oh? The client? 16:15 OldCoder Try a different client, then 16:15 Octupus iok 16:15 OldCoder This may be a useful test 16:16 Octupus DA FUCK 16:16 OldCoder ? 16:16 Octupus why are my table green 16:16 OldCoder Octupus, I am going to try something additional 16:17 OldCoder Octupus, I will put both the world and the mods back 10 days ago 16:17 OldCoder Both of them 16:17 Octupus k wait 16:18 Octupus ok ima wait for a couple of minutes 16:19 OldCoder Working on this 16:21 jin_xi lol @ browse the sauce 16:22 Octupus when i came on u shut it down XD 16:22 OldCoder Octupus, I am resetting. I wonder if there is a problem with the schems. 16:22 OldCoder Octupus, I wish to reload without the schems for a day. 16:22 Octupus ? 16:23 OldCoder Octupus, I mean just go back to 10 days ago for both the mods and the world 16:23 OldCoder And see if no problems occur 16:23 OldCoder THEN 16:23 OldCoder reload the new objects 16:23 Octupus i built babyface's house completely by hand 16:24 Octupus and it reset some of it 16:24 Octupus I GIVE UP ON LIVE 16:24 Octupus *RAGE QUIT* 16:26 OldCoder Octupus, relax a bit 16:26 OldCoder Octupus, this is good training for engineering 16:28 * Octupus might not be around because he might be bathing or attacking the wall :) 16:29 OldCoder All right 16:30 OldCoder Octupus, I have restarted with several changes. Do this. Do not rebuild that house again today. Either yours or Baby Face. I have not copied the schems. Just play for a day and tell me if there are problems. 16:30 OldCoder This is called debugging 16:31 OldCoder 16:31 OldCoder I am on an errand for about half an hour 16:31 * OldCoder back soon 16:43 Octupus boom 16:51 MiJyn hello 16:57 Octupus XD 16:57 Octupus Now i just dont give a fuck 17:00 Octupus OldCoder,when you come back i want to tell you the server got worst and thanks 17:00 Octupus for the help and the server it self 17:00 OldCoder Hi 17:00 Octupus hi 17:01 OldCoder Octupus, I don't wish you to be distressed. if you have given up there is nothing to lose. Correct? Therefore relax and explain. 17:01 Jordach I LIKE TABS http://i.imgur.com/0EqvQ.png 17:01 OldCoder Reviewing Jordach 17:01 OldCoder Jordach, Some sort of icons 17:01 Jordach see the top bar 17:02 OldCoder k 17:02 Octupus just put some glass to make a tower . i go 100 high come back down and the wholle glass is gone 17:03 OldCoder Octupus, this is very odd. Try an older client; will you do this as a favor? I wish to track down the monster. 17:03 OldCoder Jordach, I am distracted and will need help. I see tabs. 17:03 Jordach i count about 34 17:03 Octupus im using 4.2 17:04 OldCoder Octupus, are you using a client that is not mine? 17:04 Octupus ye 17:04 Octupus *yes 17:04 OldCoder Octupus, now to debug; try my client. Remove your emotions and give up hope. Then treat this as a puzzle. 17:04 OldCoder In a puzzle of this type we remove possibilities one by one 17:04 OldCoder Like trapping a mouse in the house 17:04 OldCoder Then skips and jumps about 17:05 OldCoder But in the end we corner it and it is gone 17:05 Octupus i did try your client same thing 17:05 OldCoder I will post in the dev channel about this as it may well be a core problem 17:05 OldCoder Octupus, so... 17:05 Octupus same thing happen 17:06 Octupus i think it worldedit 17:06 OldCoder 1. Old world. 2. Old mods. 3. I have tried different servers. 4. You have tried different clients. And things disappear. 17:06 OldCoder Wait! 17:06 OldCoder I said not to put things back 17:06 Octupus i didnt 17:06 OldCoder Have you done worldedit on this copy? 17:06 Octupus :l 17:06 OldCoder Then it is not worldedit 17:06 OldCoder Do not :l 17:06 OldCoder As I said this is a puzzle 17:06 Octupus well then : 17:06 OldCoder We have changed almost everything 17:06 * OldCoder laughs 17:07 * Jordach waits for VLC player 17:07 * Jordach then hates SourceForge for slow speed 17:07 OldCoder Octupus, your world may be dead for now but we will revive it. If necessary we will move the entire thing to an entirely different type of database. 17:07 OldCoder Octupus, I must leave again today but this world is not forgotten 17:07 OldCoder I will state before I leave 17:07 OldCoder I regret things are not in order 17:08 Octupus k 17:08 Octupus : 17:08 thexyz OldCoder: any news on leveldb test? 17:10 OldCoder yes 17:10 Octupus i got an idea 17:11 Octupus y not reset server to the original map 17:11 thexyz OldCoder: so..? 17:11 OldCoder thexyz, on the phone 17:11 OldCoder brb 17:13 PilzAdam brb 17:13 Octupus is red wool default? 17:13 Octupus or wool:red 17:15 FreeFull Should be wool:red 17:16 Octupus i cant find door in default 17:16 FreeFull doors:door_wood 17:16 Octupus found it 17:18 Octupus well ima play fifa 17:18 Octupus if u need me well 17:18 Octupus :l 17:23 NekoGloop since obviously my ability to code in lua is useless, i give up. 17:26 Octupus who am i kidding no1 is gonna need me 17:26 tripod i need you baby 17:26 tripod you can light my fire 17:27 Octupus dont ever call me that again 17:27 Octupus :l 17:27 tripod you nimrod 17:28 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/CTyZh.gif 17:28 Octupus ******** 17:29 Octupus thats what gonna happen jordach 17:32 NekoGloop my mods are discontinued. 17:34 PilzAdam NekoGloop, then you can share your ideas? 17:34 NekoGloop my ideas are as horrible as the code that implements them. 17:36 Jordach PilzAdam, we need a BF3 mod 17:37 PilzAdam sure 17:38 OldCoder TheLastProject, Hi 17:38 OldCoder Oops 17:38 OldCoder I meant thexyz 17:38 OldCoder thexyz, I have had no reports of problems 17:38 TheLastProject Always happens :P 17:38 OldCoder The world is 30013 17:38 OldCoder Try it 17:38 OldCoder TheLastProject, well then we should get to know each other too 17:38 OldCoder Octupus, the world needs you! 17:38 OldCoder y not reset server to the original map 17:39 OldCoder I will be happy to; but let us wait until Uberi finishes the next WorldEdit 17:39 OldCoder Octupus, we will move all of your stuff onto a regenerated world 17:40 NekoGloop if there's anyone the world needs, its not someone with horrible idea. 17:40 NekoGloop not me. 17:40 Octupus Like me I have horrible ideas 17:40 NekoGloop so do i, obviously. 17:41 Octupus U have great ideas 17:41 OldCoder NekoGloop, Octupus you are both needed and your ideas are interesting 17:42 OldCoder if my life settles down I wish to use some of them 17:42 OldCoder Not all but some 17:42 Octupus : 17:42 OldCoder :-) please because i am serious 17:42 OldCoder Octupus, Uberi will do a new WorldEdit 17:42 NekoGloop you're just saying that because you dont want to be rude. 17:42 OldCoder Bullshit 17:42 OldCoder ;-) 17:42 Octupus : 17:42 OldCoder NekoGloop, you are over the top sometimes but creative and interesting 17:42 OldCoder Octupus, I do not understand ; very well 17:43 Octupus U said not to do :l so : 17:43 OldCoder Octupus, we will export your stuff to the same world and a new type of database 17:43 OldCoder Octupus, I apologize 17:43 Octupus : 17:43 OldCoder Octupus, I was not commanding you not to ;l but expressing the hope you would feel :) again 17:44 OldCoder If you are :l then :l but perhaps it will be :) again soon 17:44 OldCoder thexyz, see the above; LevelsDB seems to be working. But I am at a loss about Octupus problem which also happens elsewhere sometimes 17:44 OldCoder Objects just disappear 17:44 OldCoder Folks I must make phone calls for a bit and then go get passport photos 17:44 NekoGloop my fences randomly disappear as well 17:44 OldCoder I will say AFK and back 17:45 OldCoder NekoGloop, *Please* look for patterns as this is a serious issue 17:45 NekoGloop i thought someone was just being a dick. 17:45 OldCoder Nopoe 17:45 OldCoder Nope 17:45 OldCoder It is a possibly fatal flaw in MT that must be addressed 17:45 OldCoder I will help you and others to hunt it down 17:45 NekoGloop mapblock loading 17:45 OldCoder But I have tried several things for Octupus world and the issue persists 17:45 NekoGloop i must be getting far enough away. 17:45 OldCoder NekoGloop, I wish to experiment with your assistance 17:45 Octupus :l 17:45 NekoGloop that it gets unloaded. 17:45 OldCoder Explain 17:46 OldCoder But I must phone people now 17:46 OldCoder NekoGloop, do this please; talk to Octupus and compare notes 17:46 OldCoder I wish to experiment further this coming week 17:46 NekoGloop OldCoder: you think i know shit about how the minetest source works? i can barely do the stupidest things in LUA. 17:46 OldCoder No! 17:46 OldCoder NekoGloop, I mean patterns that you notice 17:46 OldCoder Talk to you soon 17:46 * OldCoder is AFK 17:46 NekoGloop all i can tell you is that its always the same three fence blocks. 17:47 NekoGloop i still hate ambience. 17:47 OldCoder NekoGloop, that is consistent; the blocks I mean. And there will be solutions about music. 17:47 OldCoder I need to make phone calls now 17:48 NekoGloop then do so and stop yelling at me about it. 17:49 Octupus I hate life :) 17:49 NekoGloop i think the map is regenerating itself.. 17:49 Octupus I 17:49 Octupus I might be exaggerating a bit 17:54 NekoGloop fuck this shit 17:55 NekoGloop even minetest hates me. 17:55 OldCoder Octupus, NekoGloop Minetest is quite happy to have both of you 17:55 Octupus : 17:55 OldCoder You bring creativity and energy to the table 17:55 OldCoder You are quite important 17:55 Octupus I wish 17:55 OldCoder Octupus, I never lie 17:55 OldCoder :-) 17:56 Octupus : 17:56 OldCoder :l then 17:56 NekoGloop that looks like you're smirking 17:56 NekoGloop anyway, I've placed a sign where the glitch happens 17:57 Octupus Im the one that ppl think as your kid friend :l 17:57 NekoGloop oh look, "LandminesBeast joined the game" 17:57 Octupus Oh well 17:58 NekoGloop aaand he timed out 17:58 Octupus Bummer 17:58 NekoGloop this fucking desert goes on forever. 18:01 Octupus I have 3 created players on ac milan 18:02 NekoGloop animal crossing? 18:02 Octupus Soccer team 18:03 NekoGloop ????????????????? 18:03 OldCoder bbs 18:03 Octupus K 18:04 MiJyn hi artur99 18:04 artur99 hi 18:05 Octupus Hi griefer 18:05 artur99 how to creeate a room on irc? 18:05 OldCoder Octupus, no please 18:05 MiJyn he's a griefer? 18:05 MiJyn artur99, just join it 18:05 OldCoder Octupus, let it drop for now 18:05 MiJyn and you will either join it or create it 18:05 NekoGloop you all are griefers. 18:05 artur99 aaa 18:06 artur99 join ##artur99 18:06 artur99 isnt working 18:06 artur99 join #artur99 18:06 Octupus Thanks neko ik in 1 18:07 MiJyn Neko, yeah, I used to grief a lot too... I wonder if anyone HASNT griefed lol 18:07 artur99 i havent hasnt 18:07 artur99 whats that? 18:07 NekoGloop MiJyn: me. 18:08 Taoki OldCoder: Back. And I think I finally figured out the mistery as to why the obj file was working and this one isn't 18:08 OldCoder Taoki, hi 18:08 artur99 i dont understand 18:08 MiJyn NekoGloop lol 18:08 Octupus Me 2 in a few hours 18:09 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thi2pTXBQbA 18:09 Taoki OldCoder: The file is first read from the data stream (which I'm trying to make work), then if it's not found there from the direct path. Both the obj file and the other one work this way. Reason I thought "only the obj goes through the stream" is that the b3d one isn't rendering for some reason. So I assumed the client isn't finding it 18:09 Taoki But all files are subject to this process if I understand right. First read from the data stream, then from the full path if not found there 18:10 Taoki So I need to find out why my mesh isn't rendered now, the reason is a different one 18:10 Taoki But, celeron55 helped and found a code which I'll test after I finish some things. Normally that fixes the stream so this issue can be left behind at last. Will see if that works 18:10 Taoki But I think this answers why the obj was working and the b3d was not. They are read the same way, I made a bad assupmation the later goes through the stream only 18:11 NekoGloop "c55 helped" 18:11 NekoGloop Paradox detected. 18:12 MiJyn NekoGloop lol +1 18:13 NekoGloop er, "anyone in #minetest helped" -> Paradox detected. 18:13 MiJyn lol 18:13 MiJyn "minetest is being developed" -> Impossible! 18:13 NekoGloop yes. 18:13 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thi2pTXBQbA Sing! 18:14 artur99 paradontax 18:14 artur99 ? 18:15 PilzAdam bye 18:15 NekoGloop i keep telling NakedFury to just support what mods he can, and to not worry about fully supporting them. 18:15 NekoGloop but no. 18:15 NekoGloop no-one listens to little NekoGloop 18:16 Taoki lol 18:16 Taoki @ earlier 18:16 OldCoder b nice 18:17 artur99 minetest is a game, isnt it? 18:17 NekoGloop artur is a troll, isnt it? 18:17 Octupus :l 18:17 MiJyn *he 18:17 artur99 isnt it! 18:18 NekoGloop it* 18:18 OldCoder no 18:18 artur99 he tried to tell me that im an animal, didnt he? 18:18 Octupus ISN'T IT ARTUR U BLAMED ME FOR GRIEF WHEN YOU DID IT 18:19 NekoGloop Wild JEIJA appeared! 18:19 thexyz wtf is with cache loading speed? 18:19 Jeija Hi everyone, hi NekoGloop! 18:19 thexyz it's impossible to login to oldcoder's server 18:19 NekoGloop What will you do? 18:19 Jordach @ANYONE UNDER 15.99999999 SHUSH 18:19 OldCoder Hi 18:19 OldCoder I have been on the phone 18:19 OldCoder I am reviewing 18:20 NekoGloop >FIGHT< >BAG< >PKMN< >RUN< 18:20 Calinou /banlist 18:20 OldCoder First: Octupus and NekoGloop I don't lie generally. Put aside feelings and be engineers for a bit. We'll work things out. 18:20 Calinou wow there's a lot 18:20 OldCoder Next: Please no griefwars or griefing debates for a while. Unless you feel you must. 18:20 Octupus I was framed for grief coder 18:20 OldCoder Octupus, All right 18:21 OldCoder Next: artur99 is not a troll but I don't know quite what he is yet. He is certainly unusual. Give him a chance. You can /ignore him if it does not work out. 18:21 NekoGloop >op tells us not to talk about griefing 18:21 OldCoder NekoGloop, No... 18:21 NekoGloop >continue talking about greifing 18:21 NekoGloop ... 18:21 NekoGloop profit? 18:21 OldCoder NekoGloop, it is a suggestion and nothing more 18:22 OldCoder Next: thexyz: The world 30013 is LevelDB. I am checking its status right now. One moment please. 18:22 OldCoder Seems to be running 18:22 OldCoder Can anybody else connect to minetest.org port 30013 or not? 18:22 thexyz yep, i mean, it's connecting right now 18:22 thexyz downloading cache 18:22 thexyz but it's damn slow! 18:22 OldCoder thexyz, so might be O.K. ? 18:22 thexyz only 2% downloaded in ~5 minutes 18:22 OldCoder thexyz, I will fix that personally in time 18:22 OldCoder thexyz, I know... I know... I need Vanessa's help 18:23 OldCoder We will patch the code so that it can be disabled client side 18:23 OldCoder OR 18:23 thexyz where can I predownload cache? 18:23 OldCoder I will find a way to preload the cache 18:23 OldCoder thexyz, If you will help me tomorrow I will set that up 18:23 OldCoder thexyz, I need to go speak with attorneys today and to visit a passport office 18:23 OldCoder Does anybody need an old coder in your country? I am sort of moving 18:24 OldCoder Not kidding 18:24 OldCoder Thinking about China 18:24 OldCoder Near Shanghai 18:24 thexyz oh 18:24 OldCoder Next: 18:24 NekoGloop Japan has all the cool stuff :#P 18:24 thexyz then you'll never ever come online, right? 18:24 MiJyn @ANYONE UNDER 15.99999999 SHUSH 18:24 MiJyn wut? 18:24 OldCoder The most serious issue is not (a) adding patches (b) features (c) ambience slow 18:24 OldCoder The most serious issue is buildings disappearing 18:24 OldCoder or fences 18:25 OldCoder We got to fix that if MT is to continue 18:25 NekoGloop MiJyn: certain countries use "." instead of ",". 18:25 OldCoder Can't have buildings and fences just disappearing 18:25 OldCoder Next: I don't know anybody in Japan 18:25 NekoGloop OldCoder: check the mapblock saving. 18:25 OldCoder That about covers it 18:25 thexyz OldCoder: well, it didn't happen to me when playing locally 18:25 OldCoder NekoGloop, I will. Once I understand. Can you comment further? 18:25 OldCoder thexyz, Disappearing blocks? 18:26 OldCoder thexyz, I've only seen it three times 18:26 OldCoder thexyz, Octupus has an odd situation... 18:26 NekoGloop i think the mapblock isnt saved. 18:26 artur99 join #japanese 18:26 Octupus NO 18:26 OldCoder thexyz, I have restored his world and the mods to 10 days ago 18:26 OldCoder But the stuff still evaporates 18:26 OldCoder Very odd 18:26 OldCoder NekoGloop, can you comment further about what I might look for in the code? 18:26 thexyz OldCoder: does this happen with my leveldb patch? 18:27 OldCoder thexyz, I wish to find out! 18:27 thexyz on new clean world 18:27 OldCoder thexyz, we will find out as follows: 18:27 NekoGloop OldCoder: something to do with... mapblock saving? 18:27 OldCoder NekoGloop, O.K. I get it thank you 18:27 thexyz OldCoder: so, you created new world and use minetestserver with leveldb support, right? 18:27 OldCoder thexyz, Uberi will finish the next worldedit. we will export Octupus stuff to a brand new world AND make it LevelDB. 18:27 OldCoder thexyz, Right 18:27 OldCoder thexyz, 30013 is pure LevelDB. No SQLite3. 18:28 OldCoder thexyz, How does my plan sound? 18:28 OldCoder thexyz, Uberi will finish the next worldedit. we will export Octupus stuff to a brand new world AND make it LevelDB. 18:28 OldCoder ? 18:28 OldCoder I will also look at mapblock saving in the code 18:28 OldCoder thexyz, right now I am running Octupus world using your fork 18:28 thexyz OldCoder: and nodes are disappearing in that leveldb world, right? 18:28 OldCoder TheLastProject, no 18:28 OldCoder thexyz, no 18:28 thexyz oh 18:28 OldCoder TheLastProject, I am sorry 18:28 TheLastProject Don't worry~ 18:29 OldCoder thexyz, There are no problems at all with LevelDB yet 18:29 OldCoder It seems just fine 18:29 thexyz nice then 18:29 OldCoder thexyz, Play the world please 18:29 thexyz does it work faster? 18:29 OldCoder thexyz, Too soon to tell. We must build up large structures 18:29 OldCoder thexyz, Please build or encourage others to build in that world 18:29 OldCoder thexyz, I will set permissions to open 18:29 OldCoder thexyz, or I will op you and NakedFury now 18:29 OldCoder Hold on 18:30 thexyz OldCoder: yep, as I already said, I can't connect to it 18:30 thexyz because cache won't download 18:30 OldCoder thexyz, Aren't you loading now? 18:30 thexyz any external link to cache? 18:30 OldCoder thexyz, I can make one 18:30 thexyz nope, I already turned minetest off 18:30 OldCoder thexyz, what do you need? 18:30 OldCoder thexyz, It will load if you wait 18:30 thexyz "cache" directory 18:30 OldCoder thexyz, There is a Windows cache in the new Windows client 18:30 OldCoder Will that work? 18:31 OldCoder Guys I G2G now for the day But will be hexe tonight 18:32 OldCoder laptop is bxoken 18:32 OldCoder Need to go offline but will be back 18:34 Octupus Bye 18:34 Octupus :) 18:36 thexyz OldCoder: should work 18:36 thexyz will check later 18:36 OldCoder k 18:39 artur99 bye 18:42 OldCoder i must go offline to have laptop fixed see you tonight folks 18:44 NekoGloop how the fuck do i get oracle VM to work 18:44 thexyz NekoGloop: explain your problem 18:44 Octupus Bye coder 18:45 NekoGloop 1) how do i use it 18:46 NekoGloop ok, so... i create a vitrual machine, yes? 18:46 thexyz yes 18:47 NekoGloop which linux thingy should i choose? 18:47 thexyz um? depends on what do you need 18:47 NekoGloop minetest. 18:47 thexyz any 18:47 NekoGloop wanna see if i can actually get it to go better. 18:48 thexyz umm? 18:48 NekoGloop yes but which ones have a precompiled build? 18:48 thexyz it'll definetly be slower in virtual machine 18:48 NekoGloop realbadangel said he got it to go faster. 18:48 thexyz that's not true 18:48 NekoGloop as long as windows is idling, the linux should be decently fast. 18:48 thexyz it could be faster on real hardware 18:48 thexyz but not in virtual machine 18:49 NekoGloop oh just shut up and help me try this. 18:49 thexyz lol 18:49 thexyz ok then 18:49 thexyz i suggest you to choose ubuntu 18:49 Taoki OldCoder: Later, take care 18:49 NekoGloop ok. 18:50 NekoGloop now, should i just stick with the RAM suggested? 18:50 thexyz what's the suggested value? 18:50 NekoGloop 512 18:50 NekoGloop (mb) 18:50 thexyz better set it 1-2gb 18:50 NekoGloop cant. 18:50 thexyz depends on how much do you have 18:50 NekoGloop slider is only so long :P 18:50 NekoGloop 512 should be good. 18:51 thexyz nope 18:51 NekoGloop if not, i can always just make another machine, allocating more. 18:51 NekoGloop thexyz: RAM, not disk space allocated. 18:51 thexyz you can simply modify this one 18:51 thexyz i know what does ram means 18:51 thexyz mean* 18:51 NekoGloop 512mb RAM should be more than enoguh 18:51 thexyz nope 18:51 thexyz but, anyway 18:52 NekoGloop next step! 18:52 thexyz i've already shut up, remember 18:52 thexyz any windows users to check if this build http://rghost.ru/41136670 works? 18:52 thexyz for me it segfaults on close (in virtualbox) 18:53 NekoGloop ok. 18:53 NekoGloop now I've created the VM. 18:53 thexyz have you already downloaded ubuntu installation iso? 18:53 NekoGloop now... when starting it, it tells me i... yeah i need that. 18:53 thexyz http://www.ubuntu.com/ 18:54 NekoGloop what do i do there? :P 18:55 thexyz isn't it obvious? 18:55 thexyz > Get Ubuntu 12.10 18:55 NekoGloop ... 18:55 NekoGloop THEN 18:55 thexyz read. 18:55 NekoGloop oh god. 18:55 TheRedMood Well 18:55 NekoGloop ... 30 minutes later... 18:55 thexyz well, i understand 18:55 TheRedMood Finally some really good feedback from the script :D 18:56 NekoGloop 30 minutes later this download is completed... 18:56 TheRedMood I am about half way to making it able to install the whole system for me :) 18:56 TheRedMood Ohh 18:56 TheRedMood :o 18:56 TheRedMood What are you downloading neko? 18:56 NekoGloop ubuntu 18:56 TheRedMood nice :) 18:56 TheRedMood I am making a installer script for a distro called bedrock 18:56 thexyz well, unity will definetly lag in virtualbox 18:56 TheRedMood It is sort of a everything in one distro 18:57 TheRedMood Bedrock has package managers from, arch, debian, ubuntu, centos, gentoo 18:57 NekoGloop but if linux is supposedly so FUCKING fast like all you dickheads keep saying, then i wont have much of a problem, now will i? 18:57 TheRedMood And can use all of them ;) 18:57 TheRedMood NekoGloop: hey! 18:57 TheRedMood You are downloading the bloated version of GNU/Linux 18:57 TheRedMood Try something like gentoo 18:57 thexyz NekoGloop: you're using it inside virtualbox 18:57 thexyz inside windows 18:58 thexyz yes, it'll be slower than windows 18:58 thexyz definetly 18:58 TheRedMood http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1 18:58 TheRedMood There neko 18:58 thexyz then you'll try to run something opengl inside it (minetest) 18:58 thexyz it will be MUCH slower than windows 18:58 thexyz but, anyway 18:58 TheRedMood Thats how fast you can get it neko :) 18:58 thexyz i'm shutting up right now 18:58 TheRedMood That is the gentoo install book 18:58 TheRedMood thexyz: why? :o 18:59 thexyz TheRedMood: because he told me to do so 18:59 TheRedMood thexyz: You are adding valuable insight ;D 18:59 thexyz also, why not amd64? 18:59 OldCoder linux can be optimized 18:59 TheRedMood Ohh, I never used amd64 inside of virtualbox :) 18:59 thexyz oh 18:59 NekoGloop 18:59 TheRedMood Hey OldCoder 18:59 thexyz gentoo inside virtualbox should be really fun 18:59 OldCoder thexyz see what you think of nekogloop theoxy about map save blocks 18:59 thexyz unless you have distcc 19:00 OldCoder got to get disappeaxing act fixed 19:00 TheRedMood It seems like our little half-cat is being obnoctios <3 19:00 NekoGloop fuck off TRM 19:00 TheRedMood Ohh 19:00 TheRedMood It is really FUN :) 19:00 TheRedMood But I think bedrock looks better 19:00 TheRedMood okey 19:00 TheRedMood Guys 19:00 thexyz TheRedMood: what's the difference? is bedrock source-based distro? 19:00 TheRedMood Starting to compile my linux kernel 19:00 NekoGloop and i think i wanna kill you now 19:00 TheRedMood 256 mb ram 19:00 OldCoder leaving to get laptop fixed back tonight Octupus NekoGloop have faith thexyz try cache from 30MB windows client i posted not the 10Mb version i look forward to continuing 19:01 TheRedMood for the liquorix kernel 19:01 TheRedMood inside virtualbox 19:01 TheRedMood Lets see here 19:01 OldCoder NekoGloop, no kill yet there must be better solutions here have some tuna kitty 19:01 thexyz try building libreoffice inside VM 19:01 OldCoder bye until later 19:01 NekoGloop fuck off oldcoder. 19:01 OldCoder thexyz, oh that would be a while 19:01 OldCoder NekoGloop, ? what is wrong? 19:01 TheRedMood And we are timing it 19:01 TheRedMood OldCoder: Can I please tell you what I have been doing today? 19:01 TheRedMood :D 19:02 OldCoder TheRedMood, if you are very quick my laptop is broken 19:02 OldCoder and i must go to fix it 19:02 TheRedMood okey :D 19:02 TheRedMood Well I started off being all sad 19:02 TheRedMood because of school and so on 19:02 thexyz well 19:02 TheRedMood But then I decided I should do something usefull 19:02 OldCoder NekoGloop, what is the issue? i meant what i said TheRedMood continue 19:02 thexyz as i guessed, there're no windows users 19:03 TheRedMood So I started writing an install script for bedrock 19:03 TheRedMood Since i am dealing with compiling the kernel 19:03 TheRedMood And doing stuff on onther disks 19:03 Jordach wtf, CasimirKaPazi added you to minetest_game 19:03 TheRedMood I have had to redo the virtual setup a lot of times x3 19:03 NekoGloop its halfway done downloading... 19:03 TheRedMood OldCoder: http://liquorix.net/ 19:04 TheRedMood I chose this kernel 19:04 TheRedMood I like it a lot, atleast for my debian desktops 19:04 Taoki OldCoder: Got the stream working properly at last! Most credit goes to c55 for the help on this part 19:04 TheRedMood It has very good hardware support to 19:04 TheRedMood AND NICE MISS! 19:04 NekoGloop "c55 helped" 19:04 TheRedMood THAT IS AWESOME 19:04 TheRedMood ! 19:04 NekoGloop again, paradox? 19:04 OldCoder Taoki, great!!! 19:04 * TheRedMood lifts Taoki up on his shoulders 19:05 Taoki yes. It was a very difficult part, but it works 19:05 Taoki he he ^^ 19:05 OldCoder TheRedMood, i will xeview later 19:05 * TheRedMood starts running around all happy 19:05 TheRedMood :D 19:05 OldCoder NekoGloop, is all ok/ 19:05 OldCoder ? 19:05 OldCoder thexedmood good 19:05 Octupus All is well :( 19:05 TheRedMood Well 19:05 Octupus :) 19:05 TheRedMood So now 19:05 TheRedMood it is the 3 time I am compiling it 19:05 OldCoder Octupus, well xings a bell 19:05 TheRedMood And it takes some time :) 19:05 OldCoder taoki that sounds okey dokey 19:05 TheRedMood But it is supposed to set it all up 19:05 NekoGloop other than i havent slept in a few days. 19:06 OldCoder TheRedMood, indeed sleep 19:06 TheRedMood right now it i just that i have just pasted all the things I have done into a script 19:06 OldCoder NekoGloop, if you will not take the tuna I will save it for anothex time and now I xeally must go 19:06 OldCoder good!! 19:06 Octupus ? 19:06 TheRedMood I am going to add the variables and so on later :D 19:06 OldCoder i want the scxipt 19:06 NekoGloop your R key is messed up, i take it? 19:06 TheRedMood Ofcourse you will get it :) 19:07 OldCoder Octupus, thexyz, Taoki, nekogloop hold down the foxt 19:07 OldCoder NekoGloop, yes kitty 19:07 Octupus ? 19:07 TheRedMood I will sir! 19:07 TheRedMood :O 19:07 OldCoder why wexe you angxy befoxe cat? 19:07 * OldCoder shxugs 19:07 OldCoder ttys 19:07 TheRedMood Miss, I think NekoGloop is angry at me :( 19:07 TheRedMood Taoki: miss I think NekoGloop is angry at me :( 19:07 Octupus Y is your are messed up ? :S 19:08 * TheRedMood raises his hand and touches Taokis belly 19:08 Octupus XD 19:08 TheRedMood Are you alright up there :D 19:08 GloopMaster pervert ^ 19:09 Octupus XD 19:09 TheRedMood :o 19:09 * TheRedMood turns around and looks at Octupus 19:09 TheRedMood :o 19:09 TheRedMood Why? 19:09 Octupus Hm 19:09 Octupus *Ah Rapist* 19:10 * Octupus runs away :) 19:10 GloopMaster 7 mins left 19:11 Taoki lol 19:12 * Jordach considers leaving the channel 19:13 GloopMaster i just remembered that the college i go to has oracle VM on their computers as well. 19:13 Taoki whats wrong? 19:13 Taoki Jordach 19:13 * Jordach dislikes un-intellible things 19:14 TheRedMood What? 19:14 TheRedMood What did i do now? 19:16 GloopMaster 1 min left... 19:16 GloopMaster debating just installing ubuntu or using the vitrualbox. 19:18 Jordach GloopMaster, SHAZAM 19:18 GloopMaster ..wurt 19:19 thexyz install it on real hardware 19:20 TheRedMood nah 19:20 TheRedMood Keep to virtualbox :) 19:20 TheRedMood Until you feel how good it feels 19:20 GloopMaster fuck this. 19:20 TheRedMood to have so much software at your hands 19:20 GloopMaster why doesnt it even install the damn OS 19:21 TheRedMood X3 19:21 TheRedMood Because you are doing it wrong 19:22 GloopMaster oh yeah? 19:22 GloopMaster you wanna keep being a dick, or tell me how to do it? 19:22 TheRedMood well 19:22 TheRedMood First off 19:22 TheRedMood The one who is being a dick is you. 19:22 thexyz lol 19:22 TheRedMood You are being mean to people 19:23 TheRedMood Saying "why doesn't it even install the damn OS" 19:23 TheRedMood Won't give me a picture of what is wrong 19:23 TheRedMood so lets start with the basics 19:23 TheRedMood 1. Is your computer turned on? 19:23 TheRedMood 2. Can you reach the keyboard from where you are sitting 19:23 GloopMaster sticks at "Ubuntu 12.10" with four dots below it. 19:23 TheRedMood Well then 19:23 TheRedMood Just let it stay like that 19:23 TheRedMood So it can load in for the first time 19:24 GloopMaster then crashes. 19:24 TheRedMood okey 19:24 TheRedMood What is the error you are getting then? 19:24 GloopMaster um, the window closing on its own. 19:25 TheRedMood okey 19:25 TheRedMood Well then 19:25 TheRedMood Can you tell me what exactly you did up to this point 19:25 TheRedMood what did you download 19:25 TheRedMood And so on 19:25 GloopMaster oh, there we go! 19:25 TheRedMood Now then :) 19:26 TheRedMood Just a note 19:26 GloopMaster it is working now... 19:26 TheRedMood I have been compiling the kernel for 19 minutes :) 19:26 GloopMaster or at least, is at the desktop :P 19:26 TheRedMood This is at 256 mb 19:26 GloopMaster i dont know if it's working, but it's at the desktop. 19:26 TheRedMood well it is working 19:27 TheRedMood now then 19:27 GloopMaster ah, an install window. what the fuck do i do. :P 19:27 TheRedMood Well 19:27 TheRedMood you want to install the system 19:27 TheRedMood Did you enable 3d acceleration and set the graphics option to 128 mb? 19:27 TheRedMood This installation is very easy 19:27 GloopMaster did i do what? 19:27 TheRedMood Just do as the installer tell you to 19:27 TheRedMood Ohh 19:27 TheRedMood okey 19:27 TheRedMood you can do that after wards 19:27 Octupus I'm going on cp 19:28 TheRedMood First just push the install ubuntu now thing in the installer 19:28 TheRedMood And just follow 19:28 GloopMaster FUCK! 19:28 TheRedMood :) 19:28 GloopMaster i needed to allocate more disk space 19:28 TheRedMood Swearing won't help you 19:28 TheRedMood How much did you give it? 19:28 GloopMaster 2GB 19:29 TheRedMood ohh 19:29 TheRedMood Belive it or not 19:29 TheRedMood but many linux distrebutions can run perfectly fine on that space 19:29 TheRedMood But ubuntu can't 19:29 TheRedMood So you need to redo this 19:29 TheRedMood Want my help as a friend ? 19:30 TheRedMood But then you got to tell me what is wrong 19:30 TheRedMood SO that we won't be enemies 19:30 TheRedMood And so that I can either help or correct myself. 19:30 GloopMaster sure, if i know what actually goes wrong 19:31 TheRedMood not like that 19:31 TheRedMood What makes you so angry at me 19:31 GloopMaster not mad at you 19:32 TheRedMood okey 19:32 TheRedMood :) 19:32 TheRedMood Well 19:32 TheRedMood Just go into virtual box 19:32 TheRedMood And click the ubuntu entety 19:32 TheRedMood Right click and "remove" 19:33 TheRedMood And press delete all 19:33 TheRedMood So that you get rid of al lthe files 19:33 TheRedMood give an indication when done 19:33 GloopMaster yes 19:34 TheRedMood Then press new :D 19:34 GloopMaster i know this. 19:34 TheRedMood Can I give you a hug neko? 19:34 TheRedMood :o 19:34 TheRedMood Anyway 19:35 GloopMaster why are these things so fucking retarded 19:35 TheRedMood ubuntu 19:35 TheRedMood RIght now you are the one being stupid :) 19:35 TheRedMood okey 19:35 GloopMaster i made a new harddrive and allocated 6GB 19:35 TheRedMood assing like 1204 mb of memory 19:35 TheRedMood you need atleast 8 i think? 19:35 Muadtralk Gloopmaster? Neko? I is confused 19:35 TheRedMood I would advise you have atleast 16Gb 19:35 GloopMaster I can only give 450MB of RAM 19:35 TheRedMood For something like ubuntu 19:35 TheRedMood That is okey gloop 19:35 TheRedMood well 19:36 TheRedMood Before you boot it up 19:36 TheRedMood click on it 19:36 TheRedMood And in the right side click on display 19:36 TheRedMood Drag the video memory all the way to the right 19:36 GloopMaster and only have 8.11GB on the harddrive that i actually physically have. 19:36 TheRedMood Ohh 19:36 TheRedMood Well :o 19:36 TheRedMood Then we need a ligther system 19:36 GloopMaster Muadtralk: yes. 19:36 TheRedMood Give me a secound 19:37 Muadtralk wattos 19:37 Muadtralk is rather small 19:37 TheRedMood yeah know 19:37 TheRedMood But right now wre are going with xubuntu 19:38 TheRedMood http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ 19:38 TheRedMood I would have installed something like gentoo or slackware 19:38 TheRedMood Since I could have taken it down really good 19:38 TheRedMood Download this neko :) 19:38 TheRedMood Muadtralk: What distro do you use on a daily bases? 19:39 Muadtralk wahtever one IO havent destroyed while playing with it 19:39 Muadtralk whatever* I 19:39 Octupus hi szden 19:39 Muadtralk * 19:39 Muadtralk ello 19:39 TheRedMood :) 19:39 TheRedMood You sound like a wise man :) 19:39 TheRedMood I like source based 19:39 TheRedMood Looking into called exherbo right now 19:39 TheRedMood Really facinating stuff 19:39 Muadtralk destroying x11 is my specialty 19:40 TheRedMood That is the distro of the moth thingy 19:40 Muadtralk hmmm 19:40 Muadtralk how interguing 19:40 TheRedMood right now/ which i mean right now) I am working on a script for a diamond I foun, called "bedrock" 19:40 TheRedMood It is hard to download it 19:40 TheRedMood Set it up 19:40 thexyz well, then 19:40 TheRedMood So I though I would write a setup script 19:40 thexyz why is it "diamond"? 19:41 Octupus muad anything new to your server? 19:41 TheRedMood Now I am compiling the system. 19:41 TheRedMood I mean the kernel 19:41 Muadtralk huh I saw that very distro a few months ago 19:41 TheRedMood the virtual machine has 265mb 19:41 TheRedMood And we are at 19:41 TheRedMood 33 minutes 19:41 TheRedMood I am using the liquorix.net kernel 19:42 TheRedMood As i have had great succses with it earleir 19:42 GloopMaster this torrent. 19:42 GloopMaster my god. 19:42 TheRedMood thexyz: It can use pacman, apt-get, portage and a lot more 19:42 TheRedMood thexyz: it is basiclly a really good bare metal distro 19:42 TheRedMood Which I see great potential in 19:43 TheRedMood Muadtralk: I found it 2 days ago. 19:43 TheRedMood Muadtralk: I have yet to actully use it, since I have been using my entier time installing and updating the script x3 19:43 TheRedMood the script is about half way now 19:43 TheRedMood It can compile the kernel, download what I need, setup patches, and so on 19:44 Octupus MuadTralk,whats up with yo server 19:46 TheRedMood Muadtralk: http://pastie.org/5110963 19:46 TheRedMood thexyz: http://pastie.org/5110963 19:46 TheRedMood That is the script so far :D 19:48 Muadtralk nothings up with my server 19:48 Muadtralk aside from frequent crashing 19:48 Octupus why 19:48 Octupus unstable mod? 19:48 Muadtralk unstable client 19:48 GloopMaster crappy server computer? :P 19:48 Muadtralk and the dreaded bad_alloc 19:49 Octupus o 19:49 GloopMaster for virtual box, how do i specify xubuntu? just use ubuntu and hope for the best? :P 19:49 TheRedMood No 19:49 TheRedMood Shall I tell you a secret? 19:49 TheRedMood It really doesn't matter :) 19:50 TheRedMood Set it as ubuntu is okey :) 19:50 GloopMaster changes the default settings. 19:50 TheRedMood yeah 19:50 TheRedMood But those can be changed again 19:50 TheRedMood Well Muadtralk What did you think of bedrock? 19:51 Muadtralk never tried it 19:51 GloopMaster and now i wait and wait and wait... 19:51 Muadtralk from what i saw it has some potential 19:51 Octupus IM AT A PAYPHONE XD 19:51 GloopMaster a critical error has occured. 19:52 GloopMaster fuck this shit. 19:52 Octupus XD 19:52 Muadtralk thats why i dont use virtual box 19:52 Muadtralk :D 19:52 GloopMaster shut your trap 19:52 TheRedMood :D 19:52 TheRedMood Losing is fun! 19:52 TheRedMood Okey 19:52 Octupus i wish to play on your server tralk but u guys dont trust me 19:52 TheRedMood Well what do you think about the script? 19:53 TheRedMood Ofcourse it needs 19:53 thexyz lol 19:53 Octupus LALALALALALA 19:53 Muadtralk everything got reset octu 19:53 thexyz GloopMaster: that's because you use windows 19:53 Muadtralk you could just go on 19:53 Octupus really why? 19:53 TheRedMood Comments, variables, prompting, tests, options for 64bit and so on 19:53 TheRedMood :) 19:54 GloopMaster if you all wanna be dickheads, go ahead. 19:54 Muadtralk huh something bad must have happened i cant remote connect to the server computer 19:54 thexyz on linux virtualbox works for me just fine 19:54 GloopMaster I cant be any more depressed. 19:54 thexyz in every occasion 19:54 thexyz even with macosx 19:54 Muadtralk its the new survival horror server 19:54 Octupus muad can i be a admin now? 19:54 Muadtralk i put it up for october 19:54 Octupus a full 1 19:54 Muadtralk lol im not even full admin 19:55 Octupus XD 19:55 Octupus so who is 19:55 Muadtralk nobody has privs past interact, shoujt and fast 19:55 Octupus thats gay 19:55 Octupus so dont u have ban 19:55 Muadtralk nope 19:55 Octupus XD 19:55 Muadtralk thats part of the horror 19:55 Muadtralk tis lawless now 19:55 Octupus ohh im talking about after horror 19:55 TheRedMood So 19:56 TheRedMood What is wrong neko? 19:56 TheRedMood I can't help you 19:56 Octupus can i be a admin after october :) 19:56 TheRedMood your machine got to little power to run it in vitrual mode 19:56 TheRedMood OHH! 19:56 GloopMaster come on, i got farther with ubuntu.... 19:56 TheRedMood IT WORKED :D 19:56 Octupus i wish to rebuild my weed farm :) 19:56 TheRedMood 48 min to compile kerenl 19:58 Octupus MuadTralk,what was your ip again 19:59 GloopMaster since obviously linux is full of fail, goodbye virtualbox. 20:00 Octupus its minetest.freedns.in right muad 20:02 TheRedMood Just found a error in the script x3 20:06 Muadtralk yes 20:06 Muadtralk but my server appears to be down 20:07 Octupus i see :) 20:07 Octupus any1 know the recipe for growlamps? 20:10 iqualfragile install craftguide 20:11 Taoki OMG! I got a mesh to animate :D Really sweet 20:12 Muadtralk look at the init.lua or crafting.lua 20:13 Muadtralk or check the forums 20:15 iqualfragile taoki: great! 20:16 iqualfragile you will definitly need to get c55 to include that 20:18 Octupus y does jordach leave when i need him :l 20:24 GloopMaster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX86CWSZUbc&feature=related 20:31 GloopMaster do we have cobwebs? 20:32 GloopMaster what is the bedrock mod's name for the texture? 20:32 bulletrulz hey 20:33 GloopMaster what is the bedrock mod's name for the texture? 20:37 GloopMaster hello Uberi. 20:38 Uberi o/ GloopMasterp 20:38 Uberi * GloopMaster 20:38 GloopMaster someone tell me why NF cant do the simplest edits of the textures. 20:38 Uberi NF? 20:39 GloopMaster NakedFury. 20:39 Uberi whatcha editing? 20:40 GloopMaster dokutest. or, rather, dokucraft. 20:40 GloopMaster I'm adding textures to dokutest since obviously my modding talents suck. 20:43 GloopMaster I'm having a shitton of fun making these textures, cantcha tell? 20:44 Uberi quite so 20:46 ruskie n 20:47 ruskie ups 20:47 GloopMaster random spam is random 20:47 ruskie lol 20:47 ruskie missed a / 20:48 bulletrulz hey 20:49 bulletrulz back 20:51 Uberi hi bulletrulz 20:51 GloopMaster noone cares. 20:53 bulletrulz hi Uberi AND Neko dont be a dick 20:54 GloopMaster was that directed at me or #minetest in general? 20:54 GloopMaster because they need to heed that. 20:55 Taoki I have a question, which is important so I can create player animations. Is there any way in LUA to get which key a player is pressing or not pressing? Not by analyzing the string of the key, but checking if he presses the forward button, left mouse, etc 20:55 Uberi Taoki: man I've always wanted to have that 20:55 Uberi then we'd register Lua key handlers 20:55 GloopMaster no. 20:56 Uberi yes. 20:56 GloopMaster no. 20:56 GloopMaster its not possible. 20:56 Uberi I have, in fact, always wanted it :) 20:57 GloopMaster fuck off, i was answering the question presented. 20:57 bulletrulz GloopMaster: were u talking to me 20:58 GloopMaster ./topic "making you think of suicide since 2010!" 20:58 Uberi no need to be facetous, GloopMaster 20:59 GloopMaster fuck off. 20:59 Uberi see what I mean? 20:59 Taoki ok. If it's not possible yet that is a problem 21:00 GloopMaster wanna make a fool of yourself? go ahead. 21:00 Uberi someone's having a bad day 21:01 GloopMaster FUCK. OFF. 21:01 GloopMaster both of you! 21:01 bulletrulz DUDE 21:01 TheRedMood hey hey hey! 21:01 TheRedMood Now everyone clam down 21:01 Uberi GloopMaster: I might say the same to you, but I don't care enough to do so 21:01 TheRedMood And be jappy 21:01 TheRedMood :D 21:01 Uberi hey TheRedMood 21:01 bulletrulz IF UR HAVING SUCK A BAD FUCKING DAY QUIT ACTING LIKE A BITCH 21:01 TheRedMood Hey Uberi :D 21:02 TheRedMood okey 21:02 cosarara97 hi guys 21:02 bulletrulz AND GET OFF IRC DAMMIT 21:02 Uberi I wonder how Love2D does the keypress handling 21:02 TheRedMood sfan5|OFF: come here 21:02 bulletrulz hi cosarara97 21:02 TheRedMood We need an op here right now 21:02 GloopMaster i see, now I'm the one at fault. 21:02 Uberi no need, everything's sweet as can be 21:02 GloopMaster rather than the assholes who provoke everyone. 21:03 bulletrulz GloopMaster: what the FUCK DID I DO? 21:03 Uberi you're entitled to your own opinion, of course 21:03 Uberi if you can take the Love2D module, Taoki, you can probably see how they do it 21:03 bulletrulz Uberi: hold on 21:03 bulletrulz hi GloopMaster why u mad at me i did not do nothing!? 21:04 TheRedMood Hey 21:04 TheRedMood Both stop it 21:04 TheRedMood Now. 21:04 Uberi well I say that is much better 21:05 TheRedMood I am using gentoo 21:05 bulletrulz oh ohk 21:05 bulletrulz Uberi: 21:05 TheRedMood But I am currently writing a script for something called bedrock 21:05 TheRedMood http://pastie.org/5110963 21:06 Taoki TheRedMood: Sounds nice 21:06 TheRedMood Taoki: Thanks miss :) 21:06 TheRedMood Ever heard of bedrock? 21:06 Uberi nopers 21:06 GloopMaster yeah 21:06 Taoki I play MineCraft so sure 21:06 GloopMaster it makes minecraft maps retarded. 21:07 TheRedMood X3 21:07 TheRedMood Gloop 21:07 TheRedMood just stop 21:07 TheRedMood You are sad, you don't want to talk about it 21:07 TheRedMood I can't help you 21:07 TheRedMood We can't help you 21:07 GloopMaster fuck off already. 21:07 TheRedMood So laying the weight of it on us 21:07 TheRedMood Won't help you 21:07 TheRedMood The one who should get off, is you 21:08 TheRedMood Move the stone dreaded attitude out of here 21:08 bulletrulz TheRedMood: how is gento 21:08 TheRedMood bulletrulz: Ohh, it is really nice 21:08 TheRedMood Do you know anything about it? 21:08 Uberi TheRedMood: /ignore is a rather useful command 21:08 TheRedMood Uberi: no. 21:08 TheRedMood I am helping a community 21:08 bulletrulz TheRedMood: is it a i might try it 21:08 TheRedMood You should do :) 21:08 Uberi fair enough 21:09 TheRedMood well 21:09 TheRedMood gentoo is what you would call "source based" 21:09 TheRedMood Does the word compiling ring any bells for you? 21:09 Uberi yep 21:09 GloopMaster alright, if you want me to leave, I'll do so. Goodbye. There're plenty of other games to play. 21:09 bulletrulz GloopMaster: no 21:09 bulletrulz dont leave 21:09 TheRedMood Bye neko 21:09 TheRedMood :) 21:09 TheRedMood There 21:09 bulletrulz ur a cool guy FUCK! 21:10 TheRedMood Good 21:10 bulletrulz he meant the project 21:10 TheRedMood He will come back. 21:10 Uberi well now he can go deal with what he needs to 21:10 bulletrulz he meant hes leaving the project 21:10 bulletrulz i hope so 21:10 TheRedMood That guy got a feeling for a lotof people in here :) 21:10 TheRedMood Taoki: don't you go worrieng, miss. He will be back 21:10 TheRedMood Taoki: I mean what would we do without our little pet kitty? 21:10 TheRedMood :D 21:10 TheRedMood Well 21:10 TheRedMood bulletrulz: Does it mean anything to you 21:10 TheRedMood ? 21:11 TheRedMood compiling 21:11 TheRedMood And don't bother googling this 21:11 TheRedMood Just tell me streight out 21:11 TheRedMood So I can get an idea of how to explain it :) 21:11 TheRedMood ( i don't bite btw!) 21:11 bulletrulz well i know what it is it takes long time though 21:11 TheRedMood The only stupid questions are the once not asked 21:11 TheRedMood Well 21:12 TheRedMood Compiling it turning source code(What people like miss write) 21:12 TheRedMood (And I sometimes) 21:12 Taoki TheRedMood: Not really following the drama here. Too busy with code and I can't help much by getting into it 21:12 TheRedMood Taoki: There is no drama x3 21:12 Muadtralk drama what drama? 21:12 Taoki I can see GloopMaster is very upset at everyone here 21:12 TheRedMood Taoki: That is the whole point. He wanted drama and I didn't give it to him 21:12 Uberi Taoki: I assume by your question that you're looking to make some sort of walking animation? 21:12 TheRedMood You all feed the hungry beast 21:13 Taoki Uberi: I'm introducing animated 3D players. I'm very close to making the animations too 21:13 TheRedMood bulletrulz: Well, it turns that into computer code that the computer can run 21:13 TheRedMood bulletrulz: on systems based on debian(ubuntu is one) you have "apt-get" 21:13 bulletrulz oh i know what it is i hve built things before 21:13 TheRedMood yeah 21:13 bulletrulz but there is no yum,apt-get,pacman on it? 21:14 TheRedMood Well then you download a binary, also called pre compiled, software 21:14 TheRedMood on gentoo we have something called 21:14 TheRedMood emerge 21:14 TheRedMood ANd portage 21:14 TheRedMood Instead of downloading software 21:14 TheRedMood you download the source code 21:14 TheRedMood And it builts it on your machine 21:14 TheRedMood Correct 21:14 TheRedMood :) 21:15 TheRedMood gentoo is a very techincal distro. 21:15 TheRedMood Do you know what kernel is? 21:15 bulletrulz yeah maybe when im alittle more advanced im still only 2 years of linux 21:15 bulletrulz linux 3.1 21:15 bulletrulz im guessing lol 21:15 TheRedMood Ohh 21:16 TheRedMood :o 21:16 TheRedMood I have like 1.5 21:16 TheRedMood I am mostly self thought 21:16 bulletrulz yeah but i did not use it acctully just seen it 21:16 bulletrulz for using linux i started i think about 1 year 21:17 bulletrulz i HATE UNITY THOUGH D: 21:17 Uberi TheRedMood: and what are some of the advantages of always compiling on your own machine? 21:17 bulletrulz gnome shell is aright 21:17 bulletrulz mate is good 21:17 bulletrulz lxde is good 21:18 bulletrulz xfce is ok 21:18 theredmood_ That was stupid 21:18 theredmood_ Well 21:18 bulletrulz enlightment is BOSS 21:18 theredmood_ bulletrulz: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1 21:18 theredmood_ That is the gentoo installation handbook 21:18 theredmood_ On one page :) 21:18 theredmood_ It looks likea beast and it truly is 21:18 theredmood_ But it isen't that hard 21:18 theredmood_ Well 21:18 theredmood_ I like echinus 21:18 theredmood_ Or just to use the command line 21:18 theredmood_ Well what I am doing 21:19 theredmood_ Is called bedrock 21:19 theredmood_ Bedrock is a jack of all trades 21:19 theredmood_ It can have portage, apt-get, yum, pacman 21:19 theredmood_ on one distro 21:19 theredmood_ That is pretty awesome :) 21:20 bulletrulz really? 21:20 bulletrulz is does? 21:20 theredmood_ yep 21:20 theredmood_ once I got the script down 21:20 theredmood_ Which I am currently making 21:20 theredmood_ You can try it out :) 21:20 theredmood_ pastie.org/5110963pastie.org/5110963 21:20 theredmood_ There 21:21 TheRedMood There 21:21 TheRedMood Now 21:21 bulletrulz is the iso done? 21:21 TheRedMood pastie.org/5110963 21:21 TheRedMood This is my script 21:21 Octupus any1 where jordach is 21:21 bulletrulz is this ur website http://bedrocklinux.org/faq.html 21:21 TheRedMood No this is something you would have to do from a debian live installation 21:21 TheRedMood Ohh 21:21 TheRedMood Nononononon 21:21 TheRedMood I don't make bedrock linux 21:21 TheRedMood ! 21:21 TheRedMood X3 21:21 TheRedMood That is very kind of you, but I am not that good 21:22 TheRedMood I am making an installer script so that you can download it 21:22 TheRedMood and it will set everything up for you 21:22 TheRedMood If you ever ownder about anything linux related 21:22 TheRedMood Just ask me 21:22 bulletrulz lol 21:22 TheRedMood I will either answer you 21:22 TheRedMood Or I will find it for you 21:23 TheRedMood :) 21:23 TheRedMood The name is Teodor :) 21:24 bulletrulz TheRedMood: is there any distro that exist that is possible of running rpms and debs? 21:27 Octupus im living the life 21:27 Octupus using a grinder 21:27 Octupus then using an electric furnance while i wait :) 21:32 TheRedMood bulletrulz: bedrock 21:33 Uberi wow cool 21:33 bulletrulz TheRedMood: cant find a iso? 21:33 TheRedMood Um 21:33 TheRedMood That is because I don't think there is one yet 21:33 TheRedMood I am working on it thou :) 21:33 TheRedMood I am going to try to make a build script for it 21:34 TheRedMood Maybe then I can find you an ISO 21:34 TheRedMood Make you an ISO* 21:34 TheRedMood How does that sound=? 21:35 bulletrulz good:D 21:35 TheRedMood I am working on that 21:35 TheRedMood Right now the thing that is going to take you the longest 21:35 TheRedMood is compiling the kernel 21:35 TheRedMood I am using the 21:35 TheRedMood liquorix.net kernel 21:36 TheRedMood Which I have had very good experience with before 21:36 TheRedMood Actully 21:36 TheRedMood are you running any virtual machines? 21:37 bulletrulz no 21:43 TheRedMood okey :) 21:44 Taoki This is weird. In LUA, you register functions to several C++ hooks. For exmaple, minetest.register_on_punchnode. But if I grep the word register_on_punchnode in the code, it does not exist. WTF? 21:48 Uberi Taoki: hmm, I remember seeing it the other day, lemme take another look 21:48 Taoki Uberi: ok. My curiosity is how the hook function has a name in LUA which no part of exists in the code 21:48 Taoki As I need to code another function like that 21:50 Uberi hmm, if only I can remember what file it was 21:50 Taoki Apparently they're in the builtin folder 21:52 Uberi hey Taoki, try https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/builtin/misc_register.lua 21:53 Uberi it's a pure lua function 21:53 Taoki Uberi: Wait. So C++ hooks are written in LUA? Pretty sure they must be coded in C++ first 21:54 Uberi Taoki: no no, register_on_punchnode just adds a function object to a table 21:54 Uberi it doesn't actually do any MT related stuff 21:55 Taoki ok 22:14 Taoki Anyone know if ther's a way for LUA to read settings from minetest.conf? 22:15 Uberi minetest.setting_get or something like that 22:15 Uberi lemme check lua_api.txt 22:15 Taoki thanks 22:16 Uberi yep that's the one 22:16 Taoki Uberi: I need to know if the LUA API can read and understand the keybinfs in the settings 22:16 Taoki awesome 22:16 Taoki **keybinds 22:16 Taoki Ah, but you don't know each client's setting, just the server's. Hmmm :/ 22:17 Uberi yeah 22:17 Uberi I suppose it only works for the server 23:15 Octupus I'll 23:15 Octupus Sau 23:15 Uberi hi Octupus 23:16 Octupus Hi 23:16 Octupus Where is jordach and Eva 23:16 Octupus *Rba 23:16 Octupus Face needs privs 23:20 MiJyn hi 23:26 Octupus_ Any1 saw jordach since he logged off 23:32 babyface1031 hi 23:32 Octupus hi face 23:33 Octupus face you can wait here and ask jordach or realbadangel when they come on for privs 23:33 Octupus also OldCoder he can grant you also 23:33 babyface1031 ok 23:33 Octupus gtg 23:39 NekoGloop Meow. 23:51 Octupus Did they come on babyface1031 23:52 babyface1031 no 23:53 Octupus :l 23:54 babyface1031 really want to start building too 23:54 babyface1031 ;9 23:55 babyface1031 ;9 23:55 babyface1031 :(