Time Nick Message 00:00 Crisco I have a BNC that I usually use, but in my mobile devices I have a backup server in case cron fails to update my dyndns 00:01 dharc Minecraft was made in Java, because of it it's so slow. Minetest is very fast, you deserve congratulations 00:19 OldCoder dharc, Yes 00:19 hmmmm 'minetest is fast' 00:19 hmmmm hah 00:20 hmmmm now that it's the weekend, i can finally work on the mapgen more 00:20 hmmmm i think i might have a potential problem though 00:21 OldCoder I thought I /ignored you 00:21 OldCoder Hmm 00:21 NakedFury hmmm do you think it could be possible to make different digging animations or movements depending on if you dig or mine or chop or punch stuff or use a sword? 00:21 hmmmm OldCoder, i really don't give a care in the world if you ignore me or not, your attention isn't some amazing thing that people are worthy of 00:22 hmmmm aren't worthy of* 00:23 hmmmm NakedFury, of course it's possible, but i'm not the person who would add that 00:24 RealBadAngel_ hah, by accident i figured out how to create COOL thing 00:24 RealBadAngel_ technic will be updated in 15 minutes 00:24 hmmmm i think it would be difficult because then there'd need to be a system in place to define custom animations - the swing is hardcoded right now 00:25 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, all right 00:27 NakedFury what did you find by accident? 00:32 NakedFury hmmm how goes your hunt for the perfect algorithm or code for mapgen? 00:33 hmmmm it might suck 00:33 hmmmm i'm gonna need to take individual samples for nodes that are on the boundary of a biome in order to smooth transitions 00:34 NakedFury and that might slow it down? 00:34 hmmmm well if you're doing more stuff that you otherwise wouldn't, of course 00:34 hmmmm i'm thinking of a more elegant solution 00:36 hmmmm maybe not 00:36 harrison does anyone here remember SPASIM? 00:37 NakedFury no. is that a user or program? 00:38 hmmmm alright, i've got an idea - if the transition from one biome to another doesn't end on an integer boundary, which is really a 1/350 chance, the slope is the same as the difference between the last two nodes 00:39 NakedFury how would an integer boundary look like? 00:39 hmmmm probably unnoticable 00:40 NakedFury well go for it if it is elegant and helps you reach your goal 00:41 VanessaE_ hi all 00:41 NakedFury hi 00:42 NekoGloop Ello 00:42 VanessaE_ hi hi. 00:44 VanessaE there. 00:44 * OldCoder is resting 00:51 VanessaE jeez, irc is falling apart tonight 00:54 OldCoder net split 00:54 OldCoder not as good as 00:54 OldCoder banana split 00:54 VanessaE heh 00:54 OldCoder U.S. MT worlds going down to test Calinou Git Mods 00:54 OldCoder Several of his mods updated 00:54 * VanessaE offers up a chocolate fudge poptart with peanut butter spead on it 00:54 OldCoder Yum 00:55 * NekoGloop has pizza 00:55 * OldCoder consumes; at least in the virtual world 00:55 VanessaE NekoGloop: trade? :) 00:55 NekoGloop We have a whole extra box that noone ate. So sure! :D 00:55 OldCoder Anybody else got mods to update? 00:55 * VanessaE trades a box of poptarts and three mese for the extra pizza ;-) 00:55 OldCoder Has anybody used bobblocks? 00:56 VanessaE OldCoder: I do 00:56 OldCoder Mika reports problem with those but they work fine in one world 00:56 VanessaE as long as you have mesecons installed it just works 00:56 OldCoder VanessaE, Ah. Mika reports they do not work in Europe. 00:56 OldCoder Good 00:56 OldCoder Europe has mesecons 00:56 VanessaE but it's one of those mods that is best used from creative mode 00:56 OldCoder I will ask him for more info 00:56 OldCoder Go on 00:57 OldCoder U.S. worlds restarted 00:57 VanessaE nothing to go on about :-) 00:57 OldCoder If no problems then Europe will be updated 00:57 OldCoder Then I do not understand; but fine 00:57 VanessaE afaik it has sorta weird recipes 00:57 OldCoder Yes 00:57 VanessaE and uses its own internal dye system 00:57 OldCoder Perhaps he got the recipes wrong 00:57 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1274 00:57 OldCoder R 00:57 NekoGloop VanessaE: Make it use normal-er dyes. 00:58 VanessaE NekoGloop: rabbibob says he will update it to use Unified Dyes at some point 00:58 NekoGloop Riiiiiight 00:58 VanessaE and unlike other mods, this is one that would not need to give back the dye bottles, since it requires glass blocks anyway :) 00:58 NekoGloop And i'll go invent the time machine. 01:00 OldCoder VanessaE, How much do your 64px textures improve things over the default? 01:00 RealBadAngel_ NekoGloop, hi 01:00 NekoGloop Speaking of that, i'm surprised noone has abused teleporters to simulate the TARDIS 01:00 VanessaE afaic, they're a major improvement :-) 01:00 OldCoder VanessaE, the only reason not to use is additional 5MB download? 01:00 VanessaE but some people hate HDX textures because they're either too high-rez (even at 64px) or because they're too real. 01:01 OldCoder VanessaE, I do not understand 01:01 OldCoder Explain 01:01 VanessaE OldCoder: better that the player should download and install it themselves. 01:01 OldCoder "too high res" 01:01 OldCoder Why? 01:01 OldCoder Explain 01:01 * OldCoder is interested 01:01 VanessaE yeah - people seem to be stuck on 16px because of the perceived theme of the game 01:01 RealBadAngel_ because folks have different tastes 01:01 OldCoder What if I make 32px versions? 01:01 VanessaE or because some peoples' hardware sucks :-) 01:01 OldCoder What if I make 32px versions? 01:01 NekoGloop VanessaE: Most people just like default textures ;) 01:01 VanessaE 32px won't be good enough - a few textures will just turn to noise at that size 01:02 OldCoder Hmm 01:02 VanessaE NekoGloop: well they're wrong. :-) 01:02 OldCoder I wish to try the 64px 01:02 NekoGloop NOPE 01:02 VanessaE OldCoder: give it a shot then :-) 01:02 OldCoder NekoGloop, bad idea? 01:02 * NekoGloop smacks vanessae 01:02 RealBadAngel_ NekoGloop, ive made that "bucket" its called water and lava can 01:02 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1583 01:02 NekoGloop How DARE you say i'm wrong 01:02 NekoGloop RealBadAngel_: Call it the large bucket 01:02 * VanessaE blocks neko's smack and responds with a good, sharp poke :-) 01:02 RealBadAngel_ no way ;) 01:03 RealBadAngel_ test it first 01:03 NakedFury higher resolution textures need more size. also the art style comes into play. some people dont like realistic textures for this type of game and others do 01:03 OldCoder Hmm 01:03 NekoGloop Owie 01:03 OldCoder What is the balance? 01:03 RealBadAngel_ anyone knows why and how images displayed in formspec are scaled? 01:03 OldCoder How many like one vs. the other? 01:03 NekoGloop RealBadAngel_: Randomly and stupidly. 01:04 RealBadAngel_ id like to make menu backgrounds and it doesnt look well 01:04 RealBadAngel_ doest keep the scale 01:04 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, You mean 64px HDX? 01:05 NakedFury Old Coder in the end its personal tastes. how do I like the game to look for me and how detailed do I like it? that is lets say cartoon style or real style and low detail 16x versus mega details 256 or 512 or beyond. 01:05 OldCoder NakedFury, People can configure either way 01:05 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, You mean 64px HDX? 01:05 RealBadAngel_ whatever the resolution, images are scaled for some stupid reason 01:05 OldCoder Where was the menu problem? 01:05 NakedFury also im stuck at conneting to server 01:05 OldCoder NakedFury, which server? 01:05 OldCoder I restarted 01:05 NakedFury default 30000 01:05 OldCoder a few minutes ago 01:05 OldCoder to update Calinou 01:05 OldCoder Exit and reenter please 01:06 NakedFury I have been doing that 01:06 OldCoder Oh! 01:06 RealBadAngel_ oldcoder, when you open furnace menu for example 01:06 OldCoder Wait 01:06 OldCoder Sorry 01:06 RealBadAngel_ i wanted to have there background 01:06 NakedFury RealBadAngel by menu you mean the bg.png texture? 01:06 NakedFury ohh that 01:06 OldCoder Worlds started 01:06 NakedFury didnt know you could do backgrounds for those windows 01:06 OldCoder My mistake; excuse me 01:06 NakedFury I have wanted that for a long time 01:06 RealBadAngel_ ive made exact menu sized png and engine scaled that down 01:07 NakedFury what do you call it? 01:07 RealBadAngel_ ill show you the problem 01:08 NekoGloop The problem is likely that you didnt specify the width and height of the image. 01:08 RealBadAngel_ http://realbadangel.pl/menu_problem.png 01:08 NekoGloop (Or that minetest hates you) 01:09 RealBadAngel_ i wanted to make frames around slots 01:09 VanessaE oh my 01:09 NekoGloop Ew win7 01:09 NakedFury holy shit you have so many programs running 01:09 NekoGloop Probably nasa computer 01:09 VanessaE haha 01:09 RealBadAngel_ slot is 47*47 px, vertical space is 17px, horizontal 7px 01:09 NakedFury keep working on that RBA I would love to thave that 01:09 VanessaE RealBadAngel_: incorrect :-/ 01:09 RealBadAngel_ oops, vertical space is 11 01:10 VanessaE a slot is scaled up/down depending on your screen rez 01:10 RealBadAngel_ shit :) 01:10 VanessaE on my screen, they tend to be close to 64px. :-) 01:10 RealBadAngel_ i havent thought bout it 01:10 VanessaE you suck :) 01:10 RealBadAngel_ yeah i do 01:11 VanessaE I'm just kidding :-) 01:11 RealBadAngel_ so how the image is scaled? 01:11 RealBadAngel_ i think its time to dig the code 01:12 NekoGloop On my screen, they're closer to 48x 01:12 VanessaE no clue 01:12 RealBadAngel_ any1 knows which source file holds the formspec code? 01:12 OldCoder could grep it 01:13 VanessaE nope, sorry 01:13 RealBadAngel_ NekoGloop, btw, on that screen you can see cans 01:13 NekoGloop Btw, i had an idea while, ironically, playing minecraft. 01:13 VanessaE I know exactly squat about the C code :-) 01:13 NekoGloop Aether-like freezers. 01:13 NakedFury RBA maybe the guiFormSpecMenu.h or .cpp 01:15 NakedFury its the cpp one I think 01:15 VanessaE RealBadAngel_: what you could probably do is keep a fake item in each slot, drawn to look like the image you wanted 01:15 VanessaE and just have your code delete and replace it, but how to stop the user from taking it, I dunno :-) 01:15 NekoGloop Change the inventory image of the hand? 01:16 VanessaE that's a thought! 01:16 VanessaE is that ...possible? 01:16 NakedFury https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/src/guiFormSpecMenu.cpp#L182 01:17 NakedFury I think it is in that part RealBadAngel_ 01:17 NekoGloop Yes vanessae 01:18 RealBadAngel_ https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/src/guiFormSpecMenu.cpp#L267 01:18 RealBadAngel_ yeah 01:19 OldCoder I'd really like to try the 64px textures and see how they work 01:19 VanessaE give them a shot then 01:19 OldCoder working 01:19 VanessaE do the same thing you did with the minetoon player image 01:19 VanessaE afaik that'll propagate to all clients who aren't using a custom texture pack 01:19 VanessaE (so I won't see any change since I use the 512px ones anyway) 01:20 RealBadAngel_ hmmm i think i can calculate geometry of base image to fit the slots 01:21 OldCoder NakedFury, source for the additional inconvenience 01:21 OldCoder But worlds are cycling now 01:21 NekoGloop hmmm i think i smell potions brewing and hear black magic being uttered. 01:21 VanessaE haha 01:22 OldCoder Ohmmmm 01:22 OldCoder cycled 01:22 OldCoder Going to look at magic textures now 01:22 RealBadAngel_ padding = v2s32(screensize.Y/40, screensize.Y/40); 01:22 RealBadAngel_ spacing = v2s32(screensize.Y/12, screensize.Y/13); 01:22 RealBadAngel_ imgsize = v2s32(screensize.Y/15, screensize.Y/15); 01:22 NakedFury RBA I thought you were gonna tweak in the source code to add background images for those windows 01:22 RealBadAngel_ what the ... is v2s32 01:23 RealBadAngel_ and he called my code lookin stupid? 01:23 VanessaE you should talk to jordan4ibanez or sfan5 or mijyn, one of those guys did that for blockplanet 01:23 OldCoder Hmm 01:23 OldCoder I see pitch black 01:23 RealBadAngel_ who calls functions v2s32 01:23 NakedFury I dont know why c55 didnt use a better naming system 01:24 NekoGloop RealBadAngel_: Celeron does, ofc. 01:24 RealBadAngel_ why not bg4232-j32_u1 01:24 NakedFury isnt that lementary coding rules? every tutorial always tells you to use easy names 01:25 RealBadAngel_ it is elementary 01:25 NekoGloop And we are not amused. 01:25 OldCoder VanessaE, I seem to be getting pitch black 01:25 VanessaE strange 01:25 RealBadAngel_ even the author when readin own code after a few yrs woldnt know whats such function 01:25 NakedFury by the way Elementary is the name of a New York based female watson based american made new Sherlock Holmes tv series 01:26 NekoGloop Yes. 01:26 VanessaE OldCoder: you sure your hardware can handle those textures? Did you disable the texture atlas? 01:26 NekoGloop Anyone who watches bbc america would know, it's every other commerial it seems like. 01:27 NekoGloop s/bbc america/ 01:27 VanessaE neko: UNC*TV here :-) 01:27 VanessaE (they pipe BBC through from time to time) 01:27 NekoGloop A&E i wanna say. 01:28 VanessaE TLC is a common conduit for PBS and BBC 01:28 NekoGloop Wasnt bbc america, though they have their own new thingy. 01:28 OldCoder VanessaE, Not sure. Is there a GUI option for texture atlas? Or just a config file change? 01:28 OldCoder Octupus, hello 01:28 VanessaE OldCoder: config file 01:28 VanessaE enable_texture_atlas = false 01:28 OldCoder World 30001 works for me. Not 30000. What is the config change again? 01:28 VanessaE in minetest.conf 01:28 OldCoder k 01:28 Octupus Hola 01:28 VanessaE on the *client* 01:28 OldCoder Cleared cache first 01:28 VanessaE hi Octupus 01:28 OldCoder VanessaE, yes 01:29 OldCoder VanessaE, I'm going to build clients without that feature 01:29 RealBadAngel_ well, v2s32 is not the function name ;) its a variable type 01:29 Octupus OldCoder: I got a swimming competition tomorrow 01:29 VanessaE I should do the same to my builds 01:29 OldCoder Octupus, will you win? 01:29 Octupus Yes 01:29 OldCoder Good 01:29 Octupus :D 01:29 OldCoder Knock 'em dead 01:30 OldCoder You will be the fastest fish in the sea 01:30 OldCoder Nobody will catch you! 01:30 NekoGloop Break a leg 01:30 NekoGloop All that good stuff. 01:30 Octupus :D 01:30 Octupus Thanks 01:34 OldCoder VanessaE, I get pitch black in world 30000 even with texture atlas off and removing cache; if no other tweaks I'd better revert the textures 01:34 VanessaE wait. 01:34 OldCoder Oh? 01:34 VanessaE lemme go to 30000 and see what I get. 01:34 NekoGloop Try activating fly mode 01:34 OldCoder 30001 works though 01:34 OldCoder NekoGloop, ty 01:34 NekoGloop Sounds like your inside a node to me ^^ 01:34 VanessaE oh yes, are you sure you're not buried? 01:34 OldCoder I hear birds 01:34 OldCoder but wait 01:35 NekoGloop VanessaE: My thoughts exactly. 01:35 VanessaE oh wait, you do know it takes for-fucking-ever for the textures to render, right? 01:35 OldCoder yes 01:35 OldCoder 30001 works 01:35 VanessaE wait a sec here, 30000 didn't send me any textures 01:35 NekoGloop OldCoder: Is your client set to im_blind=true? ;) 01:35 OldCoder NekoGloop, I was buried 01:35 OldCoder it is working 01:36 NekoGloop xD 01:36 OldCoder Looking around 01:36 OldCoder ty 01:36 VanessaE OldCoder: from where I stand, you look like you're buried 01:36 VanessaE there you are 01:36 OldCoder Not any longer 01:36 OldCoder NakedFury, VanessaE do these textures look good to you? 01:36 VanessaE I don't see them. 01:36 VanessaE I only see the default textures. 01:37 OldCoder Oh? 01:37 OldCoder Because you loaded 512px? 01:37 VanessaE (I loaded my client config that disables my texture pack so I can see what you send me) 01:37 OldCoder So what is happening? 01:37 VanessaE you probably installed them client-side instead of server-side. 01:37 VanessaE I see the little Minetoon kid 01:37 OldCoder Nope 01:37 VanessaE but all default textures. 01:37 OldCoder Hold on 01:38 OldCoder Yours are in textures/all on the server side 01:39 VanessaE but they didn't send 01:39 OldCoder and it works because that is where I put the lava 01:39 OldCoder Yes 01:39 OldCoder Reviewing further 01:39 OldCoder 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 games users 1626 Oct 1 18:14 /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/textures/all/cotton_violet.jpg 01:39 OldCoder 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 games users 1577 Oct 1 18:14 /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/textures/all/cotton_violet_s50.jpg 01:39 OldCoder Are those yours? 01:39 OldCoder 1626 and 1577 bytes? 01:39 VanessaE lemme look 01:40 OldCoder JangoFett154, wb 01:40 VanessaE that's right, OC. 01:40 JangoFett154 oh i, i went hiking with a friend for most of today 01:40 OldCoder Good 01:40 OldCoder VanessaE, these are in textures/all 01:40 OldCoder In the server tree 01:40 OldCoder Interesting 01:40 VanessaE isn't textures/all supposed to be client-side? 01:40 NakedFury RealBadAngel_: did you find the sizes? 01:40 OldCoder VanessaE, Apparently not 01:40 OldCoder But checking 01:41 OldCoder VanessaE, RealBadAngel_ has his lava here 01:41 RealBadAngel_ i think same rules apply as for textures 01:41 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, go on 01:41 RealBadAngel_ checkin the results now 01:41 VanessaE where can I see it, OldCoder ? 01:41 OldCoder VanessaE, see what? the lava? Ask RealBadAngel_ 01:41 VanessaE where on this server I mean 01:42 OldCoder Explain 01:42 VanessaE teleport me to a spot where there is lava on this server so I can see what it looks like 01:42 OldCoder Oh! 01:42 OldCoder But I don't know where 01:42 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, would know 01:42 NakedFury give yourself some 01:42 VanessaE oh. ok give me fly priv and I'll find it 01:42 OldCoder k 01:42 RealBadAngel_ give her lava source simply 01:42 OldCoder World 30000? 01:42 VanessaE aye 01:42 RealBadAngel_ and interact 01:43 OldCoder She doesn't have that yet? 01:43 RealBadAngel_ dunno 01:43 OldCoder VanessaE, spell name 01:43 RealBadAngel_ i told that just to be sure 01:43 VanessaE VanessaEzekowitz 01:43 OldCoder and how is lava source spelled 01:43 OldCoder ? 01:44 VanessaE default:lava_source 01:44 OldCoder Got lava 01:44 VanessaE OldCoder: no. this is not RBA's lava. 01:44 VanessaE this is the default lava. 01:45 OldCoder k 01:45 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, did you check when I added your lava? 01:45 VanessaE I better check that my end isn't the problem 01:45 RealBadAngel_ not sure 01:45 OldCoder VanessaE, simple solution is to dump textures into a dummy mod 01:45 OldCoder I will make one 01:46 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, can you confirm how to install textures on server side? 01:46 VanessaE ok, nothing in my "lowrez" conf that would stop server textures from being shown 01:46 OldCoder See above 01:46 OldCoder This should be simple 01:46 VanessaE (I use that config when I'm testing stuff) 01:46 OldCoder Is there a standard way to install textures on server side? 01:46 RealBadAngel_ you already done so, with the texture pack before 01:46 VanessaE OldCoder: put them in the same dir as the minetoon guy 01:46 OldCoder He is in a mod 01:47 VanessaE a mod?? 01:47 OldCoder Actually 01:47 OldCoder numerous places 01:47 OldCoder Yes 01:47 VanessaE strange 01:47 OldCoder So that is the case 01:47 RealBadAngel_ change the textures in the texture pack 01:47 OldCoder No way to install textures? 01:47 VanessaE wait 01:47 OldCoder Where is the texture pack? 01:47 RealBadAngel_ where have u put it before? 01:47 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, textures/all 01:48 RealBadAngel_ wait i will check if theres TP installed 01:49 OldCoder 01:49 OldCoder So no way to do textures 01:49 OldCoder But I can make a mod 01:49 OldCoder Does init.lua need anything in it? 01:49 OldCoder Can the file be empty? 01:49 VanessaE calinou wrote in a forum post that you have to replace the game's textures entirely, that can't be right. 01:49 VanessaE texture packs don't need an init.lua. 01:49 OldCoder VanessaE, so what is a texture pack? 01:49 OldCoder Where does it go? 01:49 OldCoder On the server side 01:50 VanessaE I don't know 01:50 OldCoder All righ 01:50 OldCoder All right 01:50 VanessaE on the client, it goes anywhere you want and then you just point minetest.conf to it 01:50 OldCoder Reviewing 01:50 OldCoder This is not the client 01:52 VanessaE try a test server with the textures overwriting the files in minetest_game/mods/default/textures 01:52 OldCoder Wait 01:52 OldCoder That looks right 01:53 VanessaE (a test because if it doesn't work you don't want to have to restore the defaults - deleting the tree is easier ;) ) 01:53 OldCoder yes 01:54 VanessaE shall I try now? 01:54 OldCoder Not yet 01:55 OldCoder Wait 01:56 * VanessaE waits 01:56 OldCoder I think they're loading 01:57 OldCoder Heh 01:57 VanessaE I don't know if *all* of the textures will show - easiest way to tell would be to give yourself a bucket or a door, since those are separate mods from 'default' 01:57 OldCoder VanessaE, a fist? 01:57 OldCoder Join port 30020 01:57 VanessaE yes - my husband's fist in fact. 01:57 JangoFett154 OldCoder why does the server keep shutting down? 01:57 OldCoder JangoFett154, We are adding a new feature 01:57 OldCoder Sorry; this is announced here in IRC 01:58 OldCoder VanessaE, join port 30020 01:58 VanessaE trying... 01:58 JangoFett154 what feature 01:58 OldCoder JangoFett154, Several 01:58 VanessaE it's a secret :) 01:58 OldCoder JangoFett154, I have updated several mods. Plus VanessaE is reviewing something new now. 01:58 JangoFett154 lol com'on you can tell me 01:58 OldCoder 64px textures 01:58 VanessaE OldCoder: ugh you need a faster pipe, I can't even get 35 kB/sec from you 01:58 OldCoder You have probably tried them 01:58 RealBadAngel_ and vanilla ice creams 01:58 OldCoder VanessaE, it is not the pipe 01:59 OldCoder VanessaE, I get very fast speeds 01:59 OldCoder It is the code in the program 01:59 VanessaE I don't think so 01:59 OldCoder I get very fast downloads 01:59 VanessaE not even the worst ever network code is gonna slow down to just 30 kB/sec. 01:59 OldCoder I did 2GB today in minutes 01:59 OldCoder There is some type of fragmentation 01:59 OldCoder JangoFett154, join port 30020 01:59 OldCoder Tell us what you think 02:00 VanessaE old: I'm still sitting at 1% 02:00 OldCoder Something is wrong then 02:00 OldCoder It may be reloading the music 02:00 VanessaE oh yes 02:00 VanessaE and I cleared my cache too 02:00 OldCoder Ah! 02:01 OldCoder The music load 02:01 VanessaE this is painfully slow :( 02:01 OldCoder is very slow 02:01 VanessaE 2% 02:01 OldCoder We should fix that 02:01 VanessaE 3% 02:01 JangoFett154 im at liek 20% 02:01 VanessaE 4% 02:01 OldCoder VanessaE, he did not clear his cache 02:01 OldCoder Wonder why he is reloading 02:01 VanessaE maybe it's the connection between there and here - where is this server located? 02:02 VanessaE 7% 02:02 OldCoder U.S. 02:02 OldCoder I don't recall where 02:02 OldCoder It is the code 02:02 OldCoder VanessaE, I get very fast speeds from here and Europe 02:02 VanessaE 22% 02:03 JangoFett154 42% 02:03 VanessaE still plodding along at less than 20 kB/sec now 02:03 OldCoder It is not the pipe AFAIK 02:03 VanessaE 25% 02:03 OldCoder TCP window? 02:03 VanessaE it's UDP I think 02:04 OldCoder Code needs to be looked at 02:04 * VanessaE grumbles - disconnected. 02:04 OldCoder Anyway we know how to update textures 02:04 OldCoder Are these chests? 02:05 OldCoder They do look realistic 02:05 JangoFett154 85% 02:05 VanessaE dunno, I'm not in yet,. 02:05 OldCoder JangoFett154, Teleport to me once you're in 02:05 JangoFett154 aight 02:05 OldCoder Oh, you're here already 02:06 JangoFett154 i am? its lag 02:06 OldCoder I mean 02:06 OldCoder You are standing on the chests 02:06 VanessaE OldCoder: it's your pipe. I just sucked down 70 kB/sec from redcrab's server. 02:06 OldCoder VanessaE, I am open to suggestions 02:06 VanessaE I don't know what to suggest 02:07 OldCoder I will look at settings but speed is supposed to be good 02:07 OldCoder I can switch VPS 02:07 OldCoder Right now just get in and judge the textures 02:08 OldCoder JangoFett154, what do you think? 02:08 OldCoder I see you're active 02:08 VanessaE 22% (after disconnect/reconnect) 02:08 VanessaE 26% 02:08 OldCoder I'll look at other VPS 02:08 VanessaE they may be limiting your outgoing bandwidth 02:08 OldCoder No 02:09 OldCoder VanessaE, I downloaded 2GB today in minutes 02:09 VanessaE hrm 02:09 OldCoder VanessaE, I think your textures are good 02:10 VanessaE 45%.. 02:10 OldCoder I am googling about the speed 02:10 OldCoder JangoFett154 says the textures seem odd 02:10 OldCoder He is so used to the others 02:10 VanessaE heh 02:12 NakedFury OldCoder something weird is going on 02:12 OldCoder NakedFury, go on 02:12 VanessaE 65% 02:12 NakedFury the world is re generating new ores and blocks for me 02:12 OldCoder NakedFury, I updated Calinou's mods 02:12 NakedFury places that didnt have ore now have them 02:12 NakedFury ohh 02:13 OldCoder Is this related to moreblocks and moreores? 02:13 VanessaE 80% 02:13 NakedFury only ores and in some cases world blocks like huge chunks of desert and sand 02:14 OldCoder So this is a new feature of his NakedFury ? 02:14 NekoGloop Maybe someone is trolling with worldedit? 02:14 OldCoder Hmm 02:14 OldCoder Seems odd 02:14 OldCoder If this just started 02:14 OldCoder Probably due to the update to his git versions 02:14 VanessaE OldCoder: wtf? 02:14 OldCoder ? 02:14 VanessaE some of these are mine, some are not 02:14 VanessaE and I can't move 02:15 OldCoder Wait 02:15 VanessaE looks like the server just went down 02:15 NakedFury my areas got a fresh and new coating of sand 02:15 OldCoder No 02:15 OldCoder Hold on 02:15 OldCoder VanessaE, spell name again 02:15 VanessaE VanessaEzekowitz 02:15 OldCoder Oh 02:15 OldCoder It did go down 02:15 OldCoder hold on 02:15 OldCoder Segmentation fault 02:15 OldCoder Wait 02:16 OldCoder One more try 02:17 OldCoder I made your textures the default 02:17 OldCoder But overwrote them 02:17 OldCoder with those from the other mods 02:17 VanessaE nope, now I see the default textures again. 02:17 OldCoder ?? 02:17 OldCoder That is probably because 02:18 * OldCoder sighs 02:18 OldCoder Hold on 02:18 OldCoder Only one way to do this 02:18 VanessaE it's because celeron55 is an idiot sometimes 02:18 VanessaE :-) 02:18 OldCoder Final experiment coming 02:18 OldCoder I can't do this manually 02:18 OldCoder Need to use my scripts 02:18 OldCoder Wait 02:18 VanessaE he makes bad decisions from time to time like we all do, but then digs in his heels when someone calls him out on it 02:18 OldCoder One more try 02:18 * OldCoder shrugs 02:18 OldCoder JangoFett154, we will stop messing with the servers soon 02:19 JangoFett154 ok 02:21 VanessaE OldCoder: say when. 02:21 OldCoder Soon 02:21 OldCoder Final test 02:21 OldCoder For now coming 02:22 OldCoder Servers going down; sorry 02:23 JangoFett154 hey OldCoder since you know how to make servers, do you think you could maybe make a server and give it to me and install what mods i want? just a question, i dont want one right now 02:23 OldCoder VanessaE, all the worlds are changed temporarily 02:23 OldCoder JangoFett154, Yes 02:23 JangoFett154 cool ill keep that in mind if i ever want one 02:23 OldCoder JangoFett154, If you mean host one we'll talk about it. Do you have a VPS? 02:23 OldCoder VanessaE, JangoFett154 join any world 02:24 OldCoder This is the final test for now 02:25 VanessaE OldCoder: 30006 shows a mixture of my textures and others I don't recognize 02:25 OldCoder Yes 02:25 OldCoder There is no clean way 02:25 OldCoder To do this on the server side 02:25 JangoFett154 srry my computer is kinda slow 02:25 OldCoder JangoFett154, you just joined me 02:25 OldCoder Do you see any difference? 02:25 VanessaE looks like my leaves, torches, dirt with grass side texture, not sure whose grass texture it is 02:26 OldCoder VanessaE, here's the thing 02:26 OldCoder I need a server side way to update mods 02:26 VanessaE RBA's lava is here 02:26 OldCoder Hmm 02:26 JangoFett154 OldCoder im not on yet there is laaaaag 02:26 OldCoder JangoFett154, k 02:26 OldCoder VanessaE, is it an improvement? 02:27 OldCoder I don't see a change in 30001 02:27 VanessaE OldCoder: not really, no.. 02:27 VanessaE to be honest I don't really like the mixture 02:27 OldCoder Sorry for the time used folks 02:27 OldCoder O.K. I am putting the worlds back 02:27 VanessaE ok. 02:27 OldCoder And will not mess with them again tonight 02:27 OldCoder Except to back up before bed 02:27 OldCoder It was worth a try 02:27 VanessaE leave it to the player to download and install a texture pack if they want to :-) 02:28 OldCoder I want good textures! 02:28 JangoFett154 i think regular textures look good 02:28 OldCoder All right 02:28 OldCoder Wait 02:28 RealBadAngel_ as good as shit ;) 02:28 JangoFett154 but its your opinion 02:28 VanessaE brb 02:28 OldCoder We will figure it out 02:28 OldCoder But for now 02:29 OldCoder People can play 02:29 OldCoder One moment 02:29 RealBadAngel_ i simply see no point in c-64 like textures nowadays 02:29 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, I think I agree 02:29 JangoFett154 c-64? 02:29 RealBadAngel_ if i wanna see pixels i have c-64 in my closet 02:30 RealBadAngel_ Commodore c-64 02:30 OldCoder JangoFett154, old microcompuer 02:30 OldCoder *uter 02:30 JangoFett154 oh 02:30 RealBadAngel_ 20 yrs old 8-bit computer 02:30 JangoFett154 haha 02:30 OldCoder JangoFett154, worlds back 02:30 OldCoder Several mods were updated 02:30 OldCoder But textures are back to normal 02:30 RealBadAngel_ image scaling in engine is fucked up 02:31 JangoFett154 have ya figured out throwing yet OldCoder? 02:31 RealBadAngel_ it scales them by factor of only slot size 02:31 RealBadAngel_ some1 forgotten to include spacings 02:31 OldCoder JangoFett154, I can't spend time on mod coding ATM; have probably spent too much time on servers per se. Sorry. But I am interested and will get in deeper in the future. 02:31 RealBadAngel_ so no matter what you do result is fucked up 02:31 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, well; one step at a time 02:32 OldCoder Key is to make sure things work at each step 02:32 JangoFett154 ok OldCoder its just a mod, doesnt have to be in 02:32 OldCoder JangoFett154, servers won't be interrupted again unless problems occur; for four hours 02:32 OldCoder Then backups 02:32 RealBadAngel_ to have proprely displayed menu backgrounds patch to the engine is needed 02:32 VanessaE someone mentioned a C64? :-) 02:32 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, We can modify the servers 02:32 VanessaE btw it's over 30 years old now :-) 02:32 RealBadAngel_ hehe 02:33 OldCoder VanessaE, so here's the thing 02:33 OldCoder There is a default textures folder 02:33 RealBadAngel_ but looks like its graphics style is still popular ;) 02:33 VanessaE RealBadAngel_: btw you do know I made a C64 texture pack for MT right? :-) 02:33 OldCoder We can unpack your textures over that 02:33 RealBadAngel_ yeah i do 02:33 OldCoder But then we need to allow mods to overwrite those 02:33 OldCoder Do you follow? 02:34 RealBadAngel_ im playin with my 128x pack 02:34 OldCoder VanessaE, what I may do is replace some textures one at a time with yours to obtain a working mix 02:34 VanessaE ok 02:34 OldCoder For now... 02:34 OldCoder have fun 02:34 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, let me know about the next Technic 02:34 VanessaE but personally, I think it's best to stick to the default textures and let the user download a texture pack instead. 02:34 RealBadAngel_ for the servers i think doku pack is good option 02:34 OldCoder VanessaE, But that misses a point 02:34 RealBadAngel_ looks ok, and not too big 02:35 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, do they conflict? If not then I will include them again on next restart 02:35 OldCoder VanessaE, People can *still* do what you say 02:35 JangoFett154 omg why does server keep shutting down 02:35 OldCoder even if I change the default textures 02:35 OldCoder JangoFett154, It does not 02:35 OldCoder We should be done 02:35 RealBadAngel_ on europe there was doku TP installed before 02:35 OldCoder Yes 02:35 JangoFett154 it just did 02:35 OldCoder Checking log 02:35 RealBadAngel_ you have removed it, why? 02:35 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, In theory it was not installed 02:35 OldCoder textures/all folder supposedly does not work 02:36 RealBadAngel_ in practuce, yes 02:36 RealBadAngel_ it was installed 02:36 OldCoder JangoFett154, wait 02:36 RealBadAngel_ ive played with it 02:36 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, I am confused, then 02:36 RealBadAngel_ but one day it was gone 02:36 OldCoder JangoFett154, the server crashed because you dug a cobble 02:36 OldCoder 02:35:07: ACTION[ServerThread]: JangoFett154 digs default:cobble at 02:36 OldCoder (-61,173,-9) 02:36 OldCoder 02:35:07: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: 02:36 OldCoder ServerError: LuaError: Expecting itemstack, itemstring, table or nil 02:36 OldCoder 02:35:07: ERROR[main]: stack traceback: 02:36 RealBadAngel_ lol 02:36 OldCoder 02:37 OldCoder Something odd about that node 02:37 RealBadAngel_ what he used to dig it? 02:37 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, I will put doku in but right now 02:37 VanessaE is that the weird node that the server barfed on the other day? 02:37 OldCoder want to avoid problems 02:37 OldCoder Hmm 02:37 OldCoder Wait 02:37 OldCoder 02:30:50: ACTION[ServerThread]: JangoFett154 joins game. List of players: Jango 02:37 OldCoder 02:35:04: ACTION[ServerThread]: JangoFett154 uses dicormod:d_bucket, 02:37 OldCoder pointing at [node under=-59,172,-11 above=-59,173,-11] 02:37 OldCoder dicormod:d_bucket 02:37 OldCoder Thoughts? 02:38 VanessaE dunno 02:38 JangoFett154 i thought it was just a cheap bucket 02:38 RealBadAngel_ dug cobble with a bucker?? 02:38 RealBadAngel_ *t 02:38 OldCoder Apparently 02:38 OldCoder Try it again 02:38 OldCoder If it crashes 02:38 RealBadAngel_ so dicormod is fucked up 02:38 OldCoder He found a bug in the code 02:38 JangoFett154 no i dug lava with bucket and dug cobble with admin pick 02:38 OldCoder See the above 02:38 OldCoder Hmm 02:38 OldCoder Then a random crash? 02:38 OldCoder 02:38 OldCoder 02:35:07: ACTION[ServerThread]: JangoFett154 digs default:cobble at 02:38 OldCoder (-61,173,-9) 02:38 OldCoder 02:35:07: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: 02:38 OldCoder ServerError: LuaError: Expecting itemstack, itemstring, table or nil 02:38 OldCoder 02:35:07: ERROR[main]: stack traceback: 02:38 OldCoder 02:39 JangoFett154 hold on, it take 2-4 minutes to get on each time it disconnects me 02:39 OldCoder Not much to say 02:39 OldCoder Sorry to hear it 02:39 OldCoder But we won't screw with servers again for now 02:39 NakedFury I dont know what calinou changed but every ore in the game regenerated. I am going crazy with ores from RBAs cave mining area 02:39 JangoFett154 its somthing with the 4.3 version 02:39 VanessaE NakedFury: maybe the map re-generated? 02:39 OldCoder Wait 02:39 OldCoder 02:39 OldCoder DEBUG STACK FOR THREAD 7fd8b0b51740: 02:39 OldCoder #0 int main(int, char**) 02:39 OldCoder (Leftover data: #1 Dedicated server branch) 02:39 OldCoder (Leftover data: #2 virtual void ServerMap::save(ModifiedState)) 02:39 OldCoder (Leftover data: #3 virtual void ServerMap::saveBlock(MapBlock*)) 02:39 OldCoder 02:35:10: ERROR[main]: WARNING: Using commanded gameid [tuxworld_game] 02:39 OldCoder 02:39 VanessaE ores are supposed to be generated only on map generation 02:39 OldCoder Check out that stack 02:39 OldCoder Should I revert Calinou mods? 02:40 VanessaE OldCoder: disk space problem? 02:40 OldCoder No 02:40 OldCoder Gigabytes left 02:40 OldCoder The regenerating ores issue 02:40 VanessaE quota? 02:40 OldCoder No 02:40 OldCoder This is *my* VPS 02:40 OldCoder No quota 02:40 NakedFury its insane I have now 48 copper lumps, 9 diamonds, 19 iron, 31 gold lumps, 12 mithrils, 15 silver lumps, 2 chromium 2 zinc, 9 tin, 2 arol, 5 talinite, 1 kalite. and there are much more 02:40 OldCoder He crashed again 02:41 JangoFett154 omg stupid dicormod bucket! 02:41 OldCoder I'm reverting Calinou mods 02:41 OldCoder JangoFett154, or was it the bucket? 02:41 VanessaE I wonder what calinou did to make that happen??? 02:41 OldCoder 02:41 RealBadAngel_ hold on 02:41 NekoGloop Nothin 02:41 OldCoder JangoFett154, what just happened? 02:41 NekoGloop Your mapgen screwed up 02:41 RealBadAngel_ calinou has nothin to do with it 02:41 * OldCoder will wait for consensus 02:41 OldCoder Consensus? 02:41 NekoGloop Remember redcrab? 02:41 VanessaE so like I said before - the map re-generated. 02:41 RealBadAngel_ im usin my own copy of ore generation 02:41 OldCoder Is dicormod death? 02:42 VanessaE NekoGloop: redcrab's problem was out of disk space. 02:42 VanessaE the map generator went insane when it couldn't write 02:42 RealBadAngel_ so does NekoGloop 02:42 NekoGloop Keep in mind how many servers he runs. 02:42 JangoFett154 dicor mod bucket must have cheap coding (no offence) but it crashes everytime i try to use it 02:42 VanessaE OldCoder: world files not owned by the user running the server? 02:42 OldCoder They are owned 02:42 NekoGloop He's easily out of disk space by now. 02:42 OldCoder I made sure of that 02:42 OldCoder JangoFett154, shall I remove dicormod bucket but keep dicormod? 02:43 OldCoder Or shall I remove dicormod? 02:43 VanessaE OldCoder: neither - this smacks of a problem deeper than some random mod 02:43 OldCoder Oh? 02:43 OldCoder I don't want crashes 02:43 OldCoder I am inclined to revert Calinou and remove dicormod 02:43 JangoFett154 i really dont want to have to go through another set of disconnects, ill just use a regular bucke 02:43 OldCoder Later, then 02:43 VanessaE a mod ain't gonna cause that kind of crash :-) 02:43 OldCoder Oh? 02:44 OldCoder Don't be sure 02:44 OldCoder Nobody depends on dicormod 02:44 OldCoder Later tonight shall I remove it? 02:44 OldCoder VanessaE, he has crashed twice after using it 02:44 JangoFett154 ya 02:45 VanessaE he said he dug cobble with an admin pick though 02:45 RealBadAngel_ JangoFett154, use cans from technic 02:45 JangoFett154 cans? 02:45 OldCoder VanessaE, Yes. But both times he was handling the dicormod bucket 02:45 OldCoder What about NakedFury report? 02:45 JangoFett154 they arent on the technic page 02:45 OldCoder Is the ores issue important? 02:45 VanessaE very 02:45 OldCoder VanessaE, comment then 02:45 VanessaE the ores issue means your map generator is breaking 02:45 OldCoder I had best revert Calinou 02:45 VanessaE no 02:46 OldCoder Explain 02:46 OldCoder This did not happen until now 02:46 VanessaE ores are only generated when the map generator runs 02:46 OldCoder Fine 02:46 OldCoder And? 02:46 RealBadAngel_ JangoFett154, here you have recipes, in mods code https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/blob/master/cans.lua 02:46 VanessaE and...didn't you notice gloopores did the same thing? 02:46 VanessaE and diamonds? 02:46 OldCoder Yes 02:46 OldCoder What is cause? 02:46 NakedFury it just restarted the process as if the map was new 02:46 OldCoder Yes 02:46 OldCoder A flag of some sort was reset 02:46 NekoGloop Couldnt have been calinou if my thing did it too 02:46 OldCoder But... 02:47 OldCoder It did not happen until now 02:47 NekoGloop Because my mod hasnt been updated in forever. ^^ 02:47 OldCoder Only change to that server today 02:47 OldCoder Was Calinou update 02:47 OldCoder Texture changes were not made 02:47 OldCoder Until afterward 02:47 OldCoder Other explanations? 02:47 VanessaE corrupted map files maybe? 02:47 RealBadAngel_ that happened to sdzen's server too 02:47 NakedFury maybe calinou did something in his mod that did that. perhaps dont touch the mod until calinou can look at it 02:47 RealBadAngel_ regeneration of blocks 02:48 NekoGloop People. 02:48 OldCoder NakedFury, I am not going to "touch" the mod but remove it tonight instead 02:48 VanessaE RealBadAngel_: and on gameboom too 02:48 OldCoder Will just go back to previous 02:48 RealBadAngel_ so the buildings were corrupted even 02:48 OldCoder VanessaE, they know what happened 02:48 OldCoder VanessaE, they hit 4GB limit 02:48 NekoGloop This is caused by the server going down in the process of mapgen 02:48 OldCoder Ah 02:48 VanessaE ah 02:48 OldCoder But... 02:48 OldCoder Servers are signalled 02:48 OldCoder Don't they shut down cleanly? 02:49 NekoGloop Minetest, do something cleanly? 02:49 OldCoder If not; that is a problem! 02:49 OldCoder Hmm 02:49 NekoGloop Are you insane? 02:49 OldCoder NekoGloop, apparently yes 02:49 NekoGloop XD 02:49 OldCoder I believe you may have hit the nail on the head 02:49 NekoGloop You arent the only one ;) 02:49 OldCoder Is there a patch I should try to make 02:49 OldCoder To cause server to wait 02:49 OldCoder Until after mapgen 02:49 OldCoder before shutting down? 02:50 OldCoder That would do it 02:50 VanessaE just send SIGQUIT to the process 02:50 VanessaE the equivalent of ctrl-C 02:50 OldCoder I send SIGTErM 02:50 OldCoder which should do the same thing 02:50 VanessaE that's the cleanest shutdown the server can do afaik 02:50 OldCoder It is already done 02:50 VanessaE no, SIGTERM != SIGQUIT 02:50 OldCoder It handles one worse than the other? 02:50 VanessaE one is like ctrl-backslash, the other is like ctrl-C 02:51 OldCoder TERM is normal 02:51 OldCoder But if it is not done usually 02:51 OldCoder All right 02:51 VanessaE lemme double-check that 02:51 OldCoder Go ahead 02:51 OldCoder You can choose either 02:51 VanessaE Ctrl-C (in older Unixes, DEL) sends an INT signal (SIGINT); by default, this causes the process to terminate. 02:51 VanessaE there you go 02:51 VanessaE SIGINT is what you need. 02:52 VanessaE (ctrl-backslash is -QUIT) 02:52 OldCoder Alright 02:53 VanessaE send a SIGINT to the process, wait 10 seconds, then try a SIGTERM. Wait another 10 seconds, then SIGKILL the fucker. 02:53 OldCoder Yes 02:53 VanessaE :) 02:53 OldCoder That is all sensible 02:53 OldCoder Editing 02:54 OldCoder What about JangoFett154 problem? Think this or dicormod bug? 02:54 VanessaE I'm not sure about that 02:54 VanessaE maybe get rid of dicormod then 02:54 VanessaE I noticed btw, 02:54 VanessaE on that 30020 test, lots of unknown blocks in the shape of trees - missing farming mod maybe? 02:55 OldCoder Yes 02:55 OldCoder No 02:55 OldCoder Yes 02:55 OldCoder It was a quick world 02:55 VanessaE make up my mind :) 02:55 OldCoder No big deal 02:55 OldCoder Yes and Yes 02:57 NekoGloop I find it interesting how conversations here just randomly die. 02:57 VanessaE yup 02:57 NakedFury they die like the wind. spontaneously 02:57 OldCoder Tides of chat 02:58 OldCoder It is normal 03:00 NekoGloop Like just now 03:01 OldCoder I have been summoned elsewhere 03:01 NakedFury well im coding ideas 03:01 OldCoder Good 03:06 NekoGloop I had some ideas for gloopblocks. 03:06 NekoGloop Unfortunatly i'm on my ipad and will actually be going to bed soon. 03:06 OldCoder That is find 03:06 OldCoder Can proceed later 03:10 NakedFury well I got my brick oven, called it Brick Kiln. added a not working bucket code for wood and bronze buckets(only bronze can take lava). now I want to work on an Engraving station where you can place Stone or any other block and get an engraved version. I got some stone and desert stone versiions for now 03:10 OldCoder k 03:18 cornernote hi 03:18 VanessaE hey 03:18 OldCoder cornernote, hello 03:18 cornernote OC, RBA said digging townchest kills the server 03:19 cornernote if it happens again, please try to get the debug.txt so i can repair it 03:20 OldCoder cornernote, All right 03:20 OldCoder Can do that whenever you like 03:20 OldCoder Is it reproducible? 03:20 OldCoder We can do it now if you like 03:36 RealBadAngel_ shall i crash the server now? 03:36 RealBadAngel_ OldCoder, ? 03:37 VanessaE lol 03:40 Kacey hello 03:40 VanessaE hi 03:41 Kacey well since server connection is impossible for me i decided to try my luck at making a mod 03:42 VanessaE modding's pretty easy 03:42 Kacey i was readingthe api page 03:42 VanessaE enough so anyway that I find myself wanting to use Lua syntax when writing BASH scripts :D 03:43 Kacey but what kills me is textures and sounds if needd 03:43 Kacey lol 03:43 VanessaE sounds can be difficult (I don't mess with them myself) but textures are easy once you've done them a few times 03:43 Kacey lets see... 03:43 Kacey im not on my computer with gimp 03:44 Kacey might download that lateer 03:44 VanessaE definitely 03:44 Kacey still havent figured out gimp 03:44 NakedFury use gimp or paint.net or photoshop 03:45 VanessaE heh. it does take some time to learn - MSPaint it is not :) 03:45 NakedFury which ever is easier for you 03:45 Kacey ok do u have the site for ms paint 03:45 VanessaE that was a joke 03:45 Kacey ooh 03:45 VanessaE MSpaint is evil. :-) 03:45 VanessaE (as is any product by Microshaft ;) ) 03:45 Kacey lol so am i at points 03:46 Kacey microsoft? 03:46 NakedFury http://www.getpaint.net/ 03:46 VanessaE yeah, though I don't know who actually wrote that program :-) 03:46 * VanessaE <-- linux zealot 03:47 Kacey lol microsoft is my exxpertise 03:47 NakedFury It started development as an undergraduate college senior design project mentored by Microsoft, and is currently being maintained by some of the alumni that originally worked on it. Originally intended as a free replacement for the Microsoft Paint software that comes with Windows, it has grown into a powerful yet simple image and photo editor tool. It has been compared to other digital photo editing software packages such as Adobe® Photoshop®, Cor 03:47 NakedFury el® Paint Shop Pro®, Microsoft Photo Editor, and The GIMP. 03:47 OldCoder hi 03:47 Kacey hello 03:47 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, I am here 03:48 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, yes 03:48 OldCoder Kacey, what is new? 03:48 RealBadAngel_ ok 03:48 OldCoder bulletrulz, wb 03:48 bulletrulz hello PEOPLE 03:48 bulletrulz hi OldCoder 03:48 Kacey going to try my luck at modding 03:48 OldCoder Have fun 03:48 bulletrulz i wish i could play minetest online but my damn tethring app wont let me 03:49 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, wait 03:49 Kacey codingi have down 03:49 RealBadAngel_ server is goin down 03:49 Kacey but i cant do textures 03:49 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, I have a debug.txt file 03:49 RealBadAngel_ make mod, ask for textures in forums 03:50 Kacey might work 03:50 Kacey but i llike beingpretty idependant 03:51 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, care to comment on what to grep for? 03:52 Kacey_ hello 03:52 RealBadAngel_ just the lines before server went down 03:52 OldCoder There are 1000s of lines 03:52 OldCoder It continues 03:52 OldCoder Is there something to grep for? 03:52 RealBadAngel_ dunno 03:52 OldCoder k 03:52 OldCoder thx 03:52 OldCoder will review 03:52 OldCoder and pass to cornernote 03:52 OldCoder cornernote, here? 03:52 RealBadAngel_ look wehere it restarted 03:52 OldCoder I can't find that 03:52 RealBadAngel_ and go back 03:53 OldCoder I can't find that 03:53 OldCoder This is a debug file 03:53 OldCoder It restarted 03:53 OldCoder 1000s of lines 03:53 Kacey_ i will be here tomorrow possibly 03:53 RealBadAngel_ look for me digging the chest 03:54 RealBadAngel_ towntest_chest:chest 03:54 RealBadAngel_ and what happened next 03:56 tobuscus any one up to play some multiplayer 03:57 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/test/121013.zip 03:58 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, pass that on to cornernote ^ 03:58 OldCoder cornernote, see link 04:01 RealBadAngel_ Oldcoder, its just log from starting the server 04:01 RealBadAngel_ we need logs *before* restart 04:01 OldCoder No 04:01 OldCoder Grep it 04:01 OldCoder You dig the chest in it 04:02 RealBadAngel_ will look once again 04:02 tobuscus_ want to play multiplayer 04:03 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, I don't see it 04:03 OldCoder Please repeat 04:03 RealBadAngel_ Oldcoder, the log is only 50seconds or so 04:03 OldCoder Yes 04:03 OldCoder Please repeat 04:03 RealBadAngel_ just the start of the server 04:03 OldCoder Please repeat 04:03 RealBadAngel_ repeat what? 04:03 OldCoder Please repeat the procedure I mean 04:04 RealBadAngel_ ah 04:04 RealBadAngel_ ok 04:04 bulletrulz should i try puppy linux 04:04 OldCoder yes 04:05 bulletrulz how fast is it? 04:05 OldCoder Pretty fast 04:05 OldCoder but 04:05 OldCoder It is a toy Linux 04:05 OldCoder Try Absolute 04:06 bulletrulz ill see 04:06 tobuscus_ can i join 04:06 RealBadAngel_ OldCoder, server went down 04:07 OldCoder k 04:07 tobuscus_ ohh 04:07 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, wait 04:07 bulletrulz ok ill try to dl tommorow 04:07 bulletrulz brb 04:07 RealBadAngel_ tobuscus, one server, for testin 04:07 RealBadAngel_ there are others you can join 04:08 tobuscus_ i cant figure out this game 04:08 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/test/121013b.zip 04:08 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, ^ 04:08 OldCoder Try that one 04:10 tobuscus oldcoder; how do i join 04:11 OldCoder tobuscus, Hi 04:11 OldCoder tobuscus, what is your OS? 04:11 OldCoder Windows? 04:11 tobuscus mac 04:11 OldCoder Oh 04:11 tobuscus ya 04:11 OldCoder I am afraid that I don't know about the Mac clients. Do you have a virtual machine? 04:11 OldCoder Can you run Windows or Ubuntu in a VM? 04:11 tobuscus idk 04:12 RealBadAngel_ OldCoder, ok got it 04:12 OldCoder tobuscus, Try this weekend earlier in the day 04:12 OldCoder tobuscus, I can answer some questions 04:12 tobuscus ok 04:12 OldCoder But not about Mac. Good luck. 04:12 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, do you know if there is a Mac client? 04:12 OldCoder I was told there was 04:12 tobuscus i will figure out some way 04:12 RealBadAngel_ idk 04:12 OldCoder k 04:13 VanessaE there IS a mac client but it's outdated 04:13 VanessaE there was, a while ago, someone working on a current mac port, but I don't think he got too far with it. 04:14 OldCoder Sorry to hear it 04:14 OldCoder VM is best choice I think 04:14 tobuscus dat sucks 04:14 VanessaE tobuscus: your best bet would be to install a virtual machine program e.g. Virtualbox, Bochs, VMWare, or whatever is common on mad 04:14 OldCoder Sorry 04:14 VanessaE mac. 04:14 OldCoder tobuscus, I will try to make a Mac client 04:14 VanessaE then install a linux or windows system inside the virtual machine and run minetest there 04:14 tobuscus ok 04:14 OldCoder But I will need somebody to make a Mac available 04:14 OldCoder tobuscus, that should work; the VM 04:15 OldCoder I can run the Windows client myself that way 04:15 tobuscus ok 04:15 NakedFury can it be possible to compile a mac version from windows or linux? 04:15 OldCoder Yes 04:15 OldCoder But not easily 04:15 OldCoder They have discontinued 04:15 OldCoder the cross-development kits 04:15 OldCoder Really, a Mac is needed 04:16 NakedFury more player reach 04:16 OldCoder yes 04:18 * OldCoder is resting again for a little while 04:19 OldCoder Zzz 04:22 DeusFigendi hey, how do I set values of a node in an ABM? I don't get it. I tried... minetest.env:get_node(pos).tiles = { "new_texture" } but that doesn't work :/ 04:25 DeusFigendi maybe there's a set_value()-method or something, but I cannot find such 04:27 anunakki hello 04:27 VanessaE no clue 04:27 VanessaE hi 04:30 bulletrulz ill think ill try preicise puppy cause i need something based on ubuntu but light 04:33 VanessaE bbl 04:35 OldCoder bulletrulz, there are several like that 04:35 OldCoder Back BTW 05:05 hmmmm hmm, in pure C++, i can calculate 500,000 points of noise in 21012 microseconds with -O2 05:05 hmmmm so it shouldn't be too shabby if it needs to fall back 05:06 hmmmm celeron was just being dopey. fallback != slow 05:09 hmmmm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsV_MO0SET4 05:50 * Calinou upgraded to ubuntu 11.10 exactly one year ago 05:52 M13 Ubuntu 11.10 sucks 05:52 Calinou +1 05:52 Calinou lubuntu 12.04 is da win 05:53 Calinou I have it on my desktop and old laptop :p 05:53 M13 :P 05:53 M13 Ubuntu 10.04 :P 05:53 M13 i stiill use it :P 05:54 Calinou terribly outdated, you should not 05:54 M13 can you help me with my network problems OldCoder is tired 05:54 OldCoder M13 05:54 Calinou wifi issues? install drivers, if not available, upgrade 05:54 M13 ok Im using Ubuntu 12.04 05:54 OldCoder Calinou, your mods are all updated to git 05:55 Calinou ok :) 05:55 OldCoder He states that connection is slow now 05:55 M13 its not wifif :P 05:55 OldCoder Evidence suggests it is either modem or network interface 05:55 OldCoder M13, how old is the modem? 05:55 OldCoder And is this a cable modem? 05:55 M13 its 2 years old 05:55 OldCoder That is pretty new 05:55 M13 yes 05:55 M13 its wifi 05:55 M13 um 05:55 M13 05:56 M13 Its phone internet 05:56 M13 Quest 05:56 OldCoder Tethered? 05:56 M13 Century Link 05:56 M13 It is with are phone company 05:56 OldCoder and the PC is fast when it communicates with TV in loop? 05:57 M13 yes 05:57 M13 and with my servers 05:57 OldCoder Wait 05:57 OldCoder Then ISP is possible issue 05:57 OldCoder No? 05:57 M13 ISP? 05:57 Basstard` That's not a star, that's a satellite. 05:57 M13 what is that 05:57 OldCoder The company 05:57 OldCoder The Internet company 05:57 M13 o 05:58 M13 but it works fine for the other computers 05:58 Calinou internet service provider 05:58 OldCoder Same ISP? 05:58 Calinou M13: make sure networking is enabled in network menu 05:58 Calinou right click network icon 05:58 M13 My dowloading speed it the same 05:58 OldCoder He implies it works 05:58 OldCoder But is slow 05:58 M13 but it dont load surtant web pages 05:59 OldCoder Problem is slow; or won't load? 05:59 M13 my cache is cleared 05:59 M13 like google works fine but askubuntu dont 05:59 OldCoder ?? 05:59 OldCoder Try a different browser 05:59 OldCoder What happens? 05:59 M13 did 05:59 M13 I intstalled chrome and it does the same 06:00 OldCoder Let's see if I've got this right 06:00 M13 ok 06:00 OldCoder The problem is not speed; it is that some pages don't load? 06:00 M13 yes 06:00 M13 most dont 06:00 OldCoder That is not likely to be modem 06:00 OldCoder Most don't? 06:00 M13 most pages dont load 06:00 OldCoder What happens; exactly? 06:01 M13 it takes like 1 minute to connect to minetest.net 06:01 OldCoder And this started recently? 06:01 M13 yes 06:01 M13 like 4 days ago 06:01 OldCoder Do you have another PC 06:01 OldCoder to try this with? 06:01 M13 yes the server 06:01 OldCoder Anybody's? 06:01 OldCoder And? 06:02 M13 it works fine on the net 06:02 OldCoder Same modem? 06:02 M13 yep 06:02 OldCoder So it is not ISP or modem 06:02 OldCoder Boot a Ubuntu CD 06:02 OldCoder Connect from there 06:02 OldCoder What happens? 06:02 M13 its on the first drop and this cmputer is on the secong drop 06:02 OldCoder By drop do you mean port? 06:02 OldCoder Plug into same port 06:02 OldCoder What happens? 06:02 M13 I booted puppy ad it did the same 06:03 OldCoder That is not what I asked 06:03 OldCoder 06:03 OldCoder Plug server 06:03 OldCoder into same port 06:03 M13 ok 06:03 OldCoder What happens? 06:03 M13 let me try the 3rd port for this computer 06:03 OldCoder If you wish 06:03 OldCoder But 06:03 OldCoder I think you should 06:03 OldCoder plug server into port 06:03 OldCoder That bad PC is using 06:03 OldCoder And report what happens 06:04 M13 hello 06:04 OldCoder ? 06:04 M13 ok 06:05 M13 its acting te same on a different port :-( 06:05 OldCoder Explain 06:05 OldCoder What is acting same 06:05 OldCoder That is not what I asked 06:05 OldCoder 06:05 OldCoder Plug working server 06:05 OldCoder into port 06:06 OldCoder that PC was using 06:06 OldCoder What happens? 06:06 M13 my servers are running :-( 06:06 OldCoder You are not listening 06:06 OldCoder 06:06 OldCoder Try this 06:06 OldCoder Boot Ubuntu CD 06:06 OldCoder on bad PC 06:06 OldCoder Connect to Internet 06:06 OldCoder What happens? 06:07 M13 Im not going to boot a ubuntu cd and wait 5 minutes 06:07 OldCoder Fine 06:07 OldCoder Good night 06:07 OldCoder 06:07 M13 puppy linux does the same 06:07 OldCoder 06:07 OldCoder M13, you requested my help 06:07 M13 the live puppy linux cd 06:07 OldCoder Either take it or don't 06:07 OldCoder 06:07 OldCoder Good night 06:07 M13 ok thnx for tring 06:07 M13 thying* 06:07 M13 trying* 06:08 M13 cyah later 06:18 NakedFury dammit torches need to give more light 06:22 ecube ikr 06:26 NakedFury torches give like 1 block of good light 06:55 OldCoder Mika_R, hello 06:55 Mika_R hi oldcoder 06:55 Mika_R restarted the Europe server? 06:55 OldCoder Long since 06:55 OldCoder Checking 06:56 OldCoder It restarts automatically 06:56 OldCoder Unless something unusual happens 06:56 Mika_R found out yesterday that it didn't list bobblocks in /mods 06:56 OldCoder Oh? 06:56 OldCoder Checking 06:57 OldCoder I will update fully right now 06:57 Mika_R neither does it now 06:57 OldCoder Wait 06:57 OldCoder It's on a different server than the main one 06:57 OldCoder I need to transfer files over manually 06:58 Mika_R ok 06:58 OldCoder Stopping server 06:59 OldCoder Backing up 07:01 OldCoder Mika_R, restarted 07:01 OldCoder and synced with U.S. worlds 07:02 OldCoder Mika_R, Calinou's mods have been updated to git and there are other changes 07:02 OldCoder Indicate any problems 07:09 OldCoder NakedFury, still here? 07:09 NakedFury yeah 07:09 OldCoder Some quick questions 07:09 OldCoder Not many 07:10 OldCoder You have made dokutest 07:10 OldCoder It is a collection of image files for textures 07:10 OldCoder For example, dye_red.png 07:10 OldCoder which is also set by the mod dye 07:10 OldCoder and... 07:11 OldCoder wool_blue.png 07:11 NakedFury yes 07:11 OldCoder which is also set by wool 07:11 OldCoder So here is the question 07:11 OldCoder is dokutest intended to override all the other mods? 07:11 OldCoder Or to override defaults 07:12 OldCoder Which can then be overridden by other mods? 07:12 OldCoder 07:12 OldCoder We experimented with server side textures tonight 07:12 OldCoder The results were complicated 07:12 OldCoder Therefore comment 07:12 OldCoder 07:12 NakedFury my first goal is to bring all 3 versions at least for the default collection of mods 07:12 OldCoder These are defaults? 07:12 NakedFury well they come with minetest game 07:13 OldCoder They would overwrite minetest_game/mods/default/textures ? 07:13 OldCoder That is where they shouldl go? 07:13 OldCoder *should 07:14 NakedFury you place them there if you want them to be played only when you do minetest_game. 07:14 OldCoder Let me rephrase 07:14 OldCoder If minetest_game is used 07:14 OldCoder Is that where they go? 07:14 NakedFury no 07:14 OldCoder explain 07:14 OldCoder you place them there if you want them to be played only when you do minetest_game. 07:15 OldCoder Looks like you just confirmed this 07:15 NakedFury minetest folder>textures>all 07:15 OldCoder No 07:15 OldCoder 07:15 OldCoder That is not correct 07:15 OldCoder We are talking 07:15 OldCoder About server side 07:15 NakedFury I mean for the specific game minetest_game yes 07:15 OldCoder On server side 07:15 OldCoder To make textures work 07:15 OldCoder There does not appear to be any way 07:15 OldCoder Except to move them to the folder 07:15 OldCoder minetest_game/mods/default/textures 07:15 OldCoder Is this your understanding> 07:15 OldCoder ? 07:16 NakedFury yes. if you do that then you should make a backup of the originals just in case 07:16 OldCoder No because... 07:16 OldCoder I rebuild everything 07:16 OldCoder automatically 07:16 OldCoder The server trees are entirely transient 07:16 OldCoder So it is fine 07:16 OldCoder Just need to verify... 07:16 OldCoder You are creating replacements for the default textures 07:17 OldCoder And mods may override you 07:17 OldCoder 07:17 OldCoder O.K. 07:19 OldCoder NakedFury, Is October 8 your latest version? 07:19 NakedFury about the textures? 07:19 OldCoder dokutest 07:19 OldCoder yes 07:20 NakedFury I think so. been trying to get technic done and making edits to the other packs 07:20 OldCoder k 07:20 NakedFury found small mistakes that need to be corrected 07:20 OldCoder k 07:20 OldCoder For a nice server side 07:21 OldCoder Do you recommend anything in addition to dokutest? 07:21 NakedFury dont know. I didnt play much minetest and dont know much about the mods 07:21 OldCoder 07:21 OldCoder I am referring to 07:21 OldCoder your textures 07:21 OldCoder 07:22 NakedFury ohh 07:22 NakedFury well no. I havent done anything extra so what I posted is all I have done at the time 07:23 OldCoder You mean dokutest? 07:23 NakedFury yes 07:23 OldCoder k 07:31 Mika_R oldcoder, Stairs+ updated successfully, as did bobblocks 07:31 OldCoder All right 07:31 anunakki hmm 07:31 OldCoder anunakki, hello 07:32 anunakki hi 07:32 anunakki servers down again? 07:32 OldCoder No 07:32 OldCoder Oh! 07:32 OldCoder Main ones 07:32 OldCoder Up in a minute 07:32 OldCoder Nobody was using 07:32 anunakki ah, ok 07:32 OldCoder I am updating 07:32 OldCoder To make nice 07:32 OldCoder Wait briefly 07:38 OldCoder anunakki, try now 07:38 OldCoder But I have just made some changes 07:39 anunakki i'm on the europe map 07:39 anunakki lot of biulding here 07:39 anunakki pretty cool 07:39 OldCoder Oh? 07:40 OldCoder Yes 07:42 DeusFigendi erm I asked a few hours ago maybe other ppl reading now :D : How do I change the texture of a block in an ABM? 08:17 OldCoder frigg I am using my own build of HexChat 08:18 CTMN OldCoder can u stop giving stuff to them pls? 08:18 OldCoder ? 08:18 OldCoder To who? 08:18 CTMN On the server 08:19 OldCoder I have given no more that I recall 08:19 CTMN To the both new guys 08:19 OldCoder i don't think I have given any more 08:19 CTMN They r selling it 08:19 OldCoder Let me grep the logs 08:19 OldCoder What is a typical item? 08:19 CTMN Did u give them privs for giveme? 08:19 CTMN Mythril 08:19 OldCoder Probably 08:19 OldCoder I can revoke that 08:20 OldCoder Hang on 08:20 CTMN And probably diamond and mese 08:20 OldCoder I assume that selling giveme items is considered bad form 08:21 NakedFury if they are not admins or moderators and are not making a server shop then yes 08:22 CTMN They r playin around with lava 08:22 OldCoder I have revoked giveme for both 08:22 OldCoder What about give? 08:22 CTMN One of them built a lava trap 08:22 OldCoder What about give? 08:22 NakedFury its cheating in other words. getting items not the way it was meant in and using it to profit 08:22 OldCoder Fine 08:22 OldCoder I will revoke give as well 08:23 OldCoder 08:23 OldCoder O.K. 08:23 CTMN NakedFury, its what I said yesterday and u saw what the others said to me 08:23 OldCoder I have revoked give and giveme for both 08:23 OldCoder This is an interesting lava device though 08:24 OldCoder Does the revocation satisfy people? 08:24 CTMN A lava device? 08:24 NakedFury I thought they were using it to rebuild a grief attempt not to profit with it 08:24 OldCoder Coordinates are: 08:24 OldCoder NakedFury, you are correct 08:24 CTMN Zeitgeist knows one of them 08:24 OldCoder -24,7.5,-19.9 08:24 OldCoder Check it out 08:25 CTMN Zeitgeist said that he did such things in the past 08:25 OldCoder Does the revocation satisfy people? 08:25 CTMN That's also why he revoked their privs 08:26 NakedFury it would me 08:26 CTMN For a time, but not forever 08:26 OldCoder CTMN I have revoked give and giveme for both 08:26 CTMN Ok 08:26 OldCoder Is this sufficient for now? 08:26 OldCoder All right 08:27 CTMN I will tell u if they r messing around again 08:27 OldCoder O.K. 08:27 CTMN R u online 24/7? 08:27 OldCoder Heh 08:27 * OldCoder laughs 08:27 OldCoder No 08:27 OldCoder I will sleep for about 4 hours shortly 08:27 CTMN It makes the impression 08:28 OldCoder Ah 08:28 * OldCoder shrugs 08:28 NakedFury is it possible to have different logs for the game? one for chat, one for commands that admins or people with priviledges would use, other for errors only 08:28 OldCoder NakedFury, Yes 08:28 OldCoder It is possible 08:28 CTMN With Lua? 08:28 CTMN I don't think 08:28 OldCoder CTMN, Lua the language can process texxt 08:28 OldCoder *text 08:28 CTMN I know 08:28 OldCoder But I don't know if it has access to that level 08:29 OldCoder If you wish to review the logs 08:29 OldCoder I can modify the servers to... 08:29 CTMN That's what I mean 08:29 OldCoder make them display what NakedFury asks 08:29 OldCoder quite easily 08:29 CTMN No I don't wish 08:29 NakedFury not me but for ease of use for owners like you 08:29 OldCoder Remind me later this month 08:29 OldCoder It is a simple matter 08:30 OldCoder CTMN It is an interesting lava device 08:30 OldCoder Perhaps a bit dangerous 08:30 CTMN Its a lava trap 08:30 OldCoder Trap? 08:30 OldCoder It is not hidden 08:30 OldCoder There is a waterfall of lava 08:30 CTMN Im goin afk will get back 08:30 OldCoder k 08:31 OldCoder NakedFury, For server owners it is easy to display the logs via the Web 08:31 OldCoder Assuming they have VPS 08:33 NakedFury I guess having them show all information in their separate logs would facilitate operations. finding people bad mounthing in chat or corrupted admins, or easily seeing the errors, and another log for placement. if it needed to go even crasier a placement log for each individual player. so you can see who used that lava 08:34 OldCoder A Perl script will do this 08:35 NakedFury it would read the games debug and sort it out in other txt files? 08:35 OldCoder Yes 08:35 OldCoder By the Web 08:35 NakedFury nice 08:35 OldCoder Very simple 08:35 OldCoder If there are more incidents such as today 08:35 OldCoder 1. griefing 08:35 OldCoder 2. complaints about cheating 08:35 OldCoder I will put the logs online in real time 08:35 OldCoder Then people can decide what happened 08:35 OldCoder 08:36 NakedFury thats cool 08:39 CTMN Im back again 08:39 OldCoder k 08:39 CTMN One of them built a house with a door out of trapstones 08:39 OldCoder What are those? 08:39 CTMN When I entered it, there were trapstones on the floor 08:40 CTMN Trapstones r stones that don't collide with the player 08:40 OldCoder CTMN, I will probably make logs available to all in the uture 08:40 OldCoder Via the Web 08:40 CTMN K 08:40 OldCoder Then everybody can decide things 08:40 OldCoder Not tonight, though. Almost time to nap. 08:40 Mika_R oldcoder, cheating? 08:40 CTMN Maybe write the coords 08:41 OldCoder Mika_R, he states so 08:41 Mika_R in what game? 08:41 OldCoder Port 30001 08:41 OldCoder U.S. 08:41 CTMN Hmmm... What was it called? XD 08:41 OldCoder Tuxworld 08:41 CTMN Minetest 08:41 CTMN Tuxworld??? 08:42 Mika_R someone want to tell me how is it possible to cheat in this game? 08:42 OldCoder There are about 15 worlds 08:42 OldCoder Mika_R, by misusing privileges 08:42 OldCoder Also by using a hacked client 08:42 Mika_R ok 08:43 CTMN Is it possible to cheat with hacked clients? 08:43 OldCoder Yes 08:43 OldCoder I believe so 08:43 OldCoder Or at least to grief 08:43 CTMN I thougt they only draw the image and send the user input to the server 08:44 CTMN Even modded textures r loaded from the server 08:44 OldCoder CTMN, There are security holes 08:44 CTMN Yes... 08:44 NakedFury I thought changing source code changed something in the game that didnt let you join another version of the game 08:44 OldCoder Depends 08:44 OldCoder I have been told... 08:44 CTMN NakedFury: It depends on what u change 08:44 OldCoder There are security holes in the server code that can be exploited 08:45 OldCoder I am rebuilding HexChat 08:45 CTMN Ur right 08:45 OldCoder This will take me offline for a minute 08:45 CTMN Hexchat? 08:45 OldCoder My IRC program 08:45 CTMN Ur IRC client 08:45 OldCoder I maintain a Linux distro 08:45 OldCoder Yes 08:45 OldCoder I am building all the programs 08:45 CTMN K... 08:46 CTMN Maybe Ill take a look on the client source... 08:47 CTMN Did anyone see real hackers that used exploits? 08:47 OldCoder Yes 08:47 OldCoder You have been suspected of being the best one 08:47 OldCoder Wait; I am restarting 08:48 CTMN Me being a hacker? 08:48 OldCoder 08:48 CTMN Me being a hacker?.. 08:48 OldCoder It does not matter 08:49 CTMN What does not matter? 08:49 OldCoder The point; hackers 08:49 OldCoder Excuse me. I am tired and finishing things for now. 08:49 OldCoder Hmm. They have updated the HexChat icon. 08:50 CTMN OldCoder, there r several bugs on the server 08:50 OldCoder Yes 08:50 NakedFury that reminded me to check for my hexchats updates 08:50 OldCoder We will try to fix some things 08:50 CTMN Zeitgeist and me got some air and water flow blocks 08:50 OldCoder NakedFury, Best to build from source 08:50 NakedFury be back in a bit 08:50 OldCoder CTMN, All right 08:50 OldCoder CTMN, Is there a fix you need? 08:50 CTMN Just wanted to say 08:50 CTMN No 08:50 OldCoder All right 08:51 CTMN I generally think the server and the map should be restarted 08:51 OldCoder Hmm? 08:51 OldCoder If you wish a new world... 08:51 OldCoder It is open for discussion 08:51 OldCoder If you don't want to play with those two we can talk about it 08:51 CTMN The worst thing is that the village was generated without the moreores mod 08:51 OldCoder Do you have another built-up world you wish to use? 08:51 CTMN The two guys rnt a problem 08:52 CTMN No 08:52 OldCoder Do you wish to redo part of the village? 08:52 OldCoder This world was created by mrtux 08:52 CTMN Lets talk later gtg 08:52 OldCoder It is largely his decision 08:52 OldCoder All right 08:53 OldCoder NakedFury, wb 08:53 NakedFury yeah the icon seems better for the name 08:55 NakedFury what are ctcp? 08:56 OldCoder Hmm? 08:56 OldCoder Messages 08:56 OldCoder Did somebody just CTCP you? 08:56 OldCoder They were checking your program 08:56 NakedFury by someone named frigg 08:56 OldCoder He did it to me too 08:56 OldCoder It is usual 08:56 OldCoder Hold on 08:56 OldCoder I can do it to him 08:57 OldCoder He seems to have blocked them 08:57 NakedFury well nevermind that 08:58 OldCoder k 08:59 NakedFury minecraft keeps shrinking blocks so I have to edit more of them now 08:59 OldCoder k 09:03 OldCoder kotolegokot, I am using one of your mods 09:03 OldCoder Two 09:03 OldCoder Locked Sign and Money 09:04 Mika_R oldcoder, what was the address to your US servers? 09:04 kotolegokot I am glad that my mods useful to someone. 09:04 NakedFury http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/ 09:04 OldCoder Hi 09:05 OldCoder NakedFury, also: 09:05 OldCoder http://minetest.org/ 09:05 OldCoder That is easier to remember 09:05 NakedFury I typed that but it changed 09:05 NakedFury just noticed its different 09:05 Mika_R changed the location? 09:05 NakedFury but yes, minetest.org is easier to remember 09:08 OldCoder Mika_R, The pages are the same 09:08 OldCoder I have three of them now 09:08 OldCoder I will add more MT material 09:08 OldCoder Code and scripts and screenshots 09:09 OldCoder One moment 09:09 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/mineworlds.html 09:09 OldCoder 09:09 OldCoder That page is new 09:09 OldCoder i wish to collect 09:09 OldCoder Coordinates and stories 09:09 OldCoder Of interesting places 09:09 OldCoder Mika_R, write coordinates of your places 09:10 OldCoder and their stories 09:10 OldCoder They will be added to the travelogue 09:10 OldCoder Click the link and you will see 09:10 OldCoder 09:10 Mika_R haven't built any interesting yet, still under construction 09:10 OldCoder all right 09:10 OldCoder time to zzz 09:10 OldCoder Zzz 09:10 * OldCoder is resting 09:20 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 09:22 NakedFury hey 09:23 NakedFury whats going on in your lua head PilzAdam? 09:23 FreeFull Hi 09:24 PilzAdam NakedFury, sleep() 09:24 PilzAdam now: read(ForumIO(minetest.net)) 10:00 Jordach hello everyone 10:00 PilzAdam hi Jordach 10:00 Jordach good morning adam 10:01 Jordach you shoud try europe.minetest.org 10:16 Jordach Vohveli, what is your status with c55? 10:37 CTMN OldCoder, r u readin the forums? 10:37 thexyz v2s32 means vector of 2 4-bytes signed ints 10:37 thexyz isn't that clear? 10:37 NakedFury it is now 10:41 Jordach thexyz, explain v3s16 10:41 thexyz same thing 10:41 thexyz vector of 3 2-bytes signed ints 10:42 NakedFury RBA wanted to know to find a way to add backgrounds to the menus and gui's 10:46 CTMN The menu has already one 10:46 NakedFury for the transparent windows? 10:46 CTMN No 10:47 NakedFury that is what he wanted 10:47 CTMN Oh ok 10:49 CTMN Maybe show images and draw on them? 11:32 artur99 hey 11:32 artur99 whats up, brothers? 11:34 artur99 is enybody here? 11:42 NakedFury most are sleeping 11:42 artur99 here is 2 pm 11:42 artur99 there is 4 am,isnt there? 11:43 NakedFury puerto rico - 7.43 am 11:43 artur99 aaa 11:43 artur99 7 11:43 artur99 are u american? 11:43 artur99 im romanian 11:43 NakedFury nice to meet you 11:44 artur99 are u american? 11:44 artur99 im 13, u? 11:44 NakedFury well puerto rico is a colony of USA so I guess I am 11:44 artur99 aaa 11:45 artur99 how old? 11:45 NakedFury 24 11:45 artur99 are u? 11:45 artur99 old man 11:45 artur99 ;) 11:45 NakedFury yeah 11:45 artur99 do u have an site? 11:45 NakedFury no 11:45 artur99 *a site? 11:46 artur99 where do u work, what domain? 11:46 NakedFury no internet work, college student 11:46 artur99 what type of studing? 11:47 NakedFury architecture 11:47 artur99 aaa 11:48 NakedFury switched from something in accounting I was studying so im still new at it 11:49 NakedFury hopefuly I will finish when im 28 11:50 NakedFury almost 6 years after I should have finished 11:50 NakedFury you should learn what you want to be and go for it fast 11:51 artur99 frate, esti? 11:51 artur99 is enybody here? 11:52 NakedFury no idea 11:52 costy hi!! 11:53 artur99 helo, costy! 11:53 Mika_R in here now 11:53 Mika_R ti*m 11:53 artur99 whats up? 11:53 Mika_R i'm* 11:54 Mika_R thinking how to make my house 11:54 costy I don't speak very good english we teach me please 11:54 Mika_R costy, from? 11:54 artur99 costy is my friend, he is 14, and is romanian like me... He dont speak english as good as me.... 11:54 * PilzAdam is back 11:55 Mika_R ok 11:56 artur99 mika, so early wake up? 11:56 Mika_R no, it's 14:56 11:56 costy mika,o'clock is 14:56?? 11:56 artur99 mika, whwew are u from? 11:57 Mika_R Finland 11:57 artur99 aaa 11:57 costy mika e din finlanda?? artur99?? 11:57 artur99 there's 2 pm as here in romania 11:57 artur99 mda cosy... 11:58 artur99 but in america is 7:57 am 11:58 costy zeg_9 where are you from?? 11:58 artur99 mika, how old? 11:59 Mika_R artur it can be 5 am in US too 11:59 artur99 ”has left” is the same with ”leaved the room”, costy! 11:59 artur99 yes... 12:00 costy mika how old 12:00 costy ?? 12:00 costy ii bum artur?? 12:00 Mika_R 21 12:01 artur99 are u student? 12:01 costy goog i have 14 12:01 costy you are boy or girl?? 12:02 Mika_R male 12:02 costy aaaa yes 12:02 artur99 do u have a site? 12:02 artur99 is here eny girl? 12:03 costy do not joined mine test 12:03 PilzAdam is this a examination? 12:03 artur99 what? 12:03 artur99 aaa 12:04 artur99 he tried say he dosent played the game yet 12:04 artur99 is here eny girl? 12:05 PilzAdam i mean the "how old are you?" questions 12:05 PilzAdam why are you asking this? 12:05 artur99 curiosity 12:05 artur99 :D 12:07 thexyz killed the cat 12:07 artur99 who? 12:07 artur99 a car? 12:07 artur99 or a dog? 12:07 thexyz curiosity 12:07 artur99 :)) 12:09 q66 curiosity killed a cat? 12:09 q66 i thought there were no cats on mars 12:09 thexyz there was one 12:09 artur99 :)))) 12:09 artur99 my cat 12:10 artur99 This curiosity: 12:10 artur99 http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/news/msl20120803.html 12:10 artur99 ? 12:11 artur99 :) 12:11 Jordach the dog curiosity "rover type breed" killed my cat.. 12:11 PilzAdam i know what curiosity is 12:11 Jordach PilzAdam, lol 12:11 PilzAdam i also know spirit 12:12 q66 there also was sojourner 12:12 artur99 the film, or your spirit? 12:13 PilzAdam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_rover 12:14 artur99 aaa! the rover 12:16 artur99 who can creeate sites form here? I want to ask him something 12:19 artur99 who can creeate sites form here? I want to ask him something 12:22 artur99 who can creeate sites form here? I want to ask him/her something 12:22 VanessaE morning all.. 12:22 thexyz well, that ignore thing may be really useful 12:22 Mika_R hi vanessaE, think i found a problem in your mods 12:23 artur99 good night... here is 3 pm 12:23 VanessaE what problem? 12:23 PilzAdam hi VanessaE 12:23 VanessaE hey PilzAdam - get my message on the forum? 12:23 Mika_R seems like you've taken the old recepy away on plastic, the one melting dry shrubs 12:24 VanessaE mika: revised. three dry shrubs now. 12:24 Mika_R impossible 12:24 VanessaE (or three jungle grass, or 6 leaves) 12:24 PilzAdam VanessaE, about the font? 12:24 VanessaE PilzAdam: yeah 12:24 thexyz VanessaE: are there any screenshots of that font? 12:25 VanessaE thexyz: not yet 12:25 VanessaE Mika_R: impossible? 12:26 Mika_R wasn't the old code to melt dry shrubs or am i wrong to make plastic 12:26 VanessaE Mika_R: it was two dry shrubs before, but two junglegrass conflicted with throwing mod, so I changed both for consistency 12:27 * Jordach is going out for mac donalds 12:27 VanessaE Jordach: bring back a bacon egg and cheese bagel for me? ;-) 12:27 Jordach VanessaE, i dont have time travel 12:27 VanessaE (Haven't had one of those in years) 12:27 Jordach i also re installed windows xp 12:27 Jordach bbl 12:29 Mika_R Vanessa how do i remember that on redcrab's server i burnt the shrubs to get plastic 12:29 VanessaE mika: I changed it so that you have to craft jungle grass or dry shrub or leaves into raw plastic and then cook that to get the plastic sheeting. 12:30 VanessaE needed so that I could require multiple items to make one plastic sheet - avoids recipe conflicts with other mods. 12:30 Mika_R ok, i was gonna say that on this other server with dyes, burning shrubs makes brown color 12:31 VanessaE exactly. :-) 12:32 VanessaE (translation: a default two- or three-input alloy oven similar to the one in technic would have been a smart idea) 12:33 VanessaE thexyz: question, if a server is using the old xdoors mod (the one that uses the default wood texture on one-node-high nodebox based doors), can Xdoors2 directly replace it? 12:35 VanessaE (or the default doors - either way) 12:43 VanessaE er, single-node, two-node-high I meant of course. 12:44 PilzAdam why do i have to answer the anti spam questions in the forum from time to time? 12:45 VanessaE I always assumed it had to do with the content of my posts or something 12:45 VanessaE I get those questions every so often also 12:45 PilzAdam i get it when i switch the PC and randomly ~1 time in a month 12:49 artur99 Who is good here in site creeating? I want to ask him/her something... 12:49 VanessaE just ask your question, artur99. 12:49 VanessaE provided it is minetest related. 12:49 artur99 ok 12:51 artur99 how to creeate an window to be larger when is cliked 12:51 VanessaE answer: you don't, because people hate that. 12:51 artur99 do u have a facebook account for exemple? 12:52 VanessaE I do. 12:52 artur99 when u clikc an image, it is bigger in a window in the center of the browser 12:53 VanessaE I don't know how that's done. 12:53 artur99 go to facebook 12:54 artur99 and clik on the last image on the news feed 12:54 VanessaE I mean I don't know the code needed to do that offhand. 12:54 artur99 aaa 12:54 artur99 do u have a site? 12:54 VanessaE still, what's this got to do with minetest? 12:54 artur99 nothing... 12:55 artur99 u said: 12:55 artur99 „just ask your question, artur99.” 12:55 artur99 :D 12:55 VanessaE [10-13 08:49] provided it is minetest related. 12:56 artur99 are u a girl or a boy? 12:56 VanessaE I'm a girl of course. 12:57 VanessaE anyway you'd be better off asking your website question in a web development channel 12:57 artur99 how old? 12:58 VanessaE Old enough. :-) 13:05 Mika_R vanessaE, got screenshots of those 2 red brick houses you've made in single player? 13:06 VanessaE sure, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2372 13:07 Mika_R is there much stairs, panels, slabs? 13:07 VanessaE in the smaller one, none at all - it was built before the advent of nodeboxes et.al 13:07 Mika_R ok 13:08 VanessaE the second uses a few but mostly relies on homedecor and bobblocks for the details. 13:08 VanessaE I'd like to get redcrab or cactuzpl or someone to export the one I build on redcrab,suret,net:30401, that one is the best of the three 13:08 Mika_R cause bob the builder cant use special pieces 13:10 VanessaE I think both can be built well enough without such things, but you might want to make sure about that 13:10 Mika_R when i get the game to work i'll see what they take 13:13 Mika_R 242 glass, 515 stone, 1007 planks 1064 bricks, i guess it's the smaller one, would be to put 63 fences at least myself 13:13 VanessaE whew 13:13 VanessaE I didn't realize how expensive that house was :D 13:14 Mika_R that was the bigger one 13:14 VanessaE ah 13:14 Mika_R small one: 1141 cobble, 565 bricks, 750 planks, 137 glass 13:15 Mika_R its only listed the big amounts, then there is some chests, furnace, bookshelfs 13:15 VanessaE right 13:18 Mika_R i have built 6 of 21 buildings that bob has blueprints on 13:18 VanessaE cool 13:20 Mika_R there is still 6 possible buildings but they take space and resources 13:22 Mika_R one of the most expensive is acdc house with 1448 planks, 570 sand, 488 trees and 528 stairs 13:24 Mika_R VanessaE, have you made these seaweed? 13:24 VanessaE yes 13:25 VanessaE though I'm not at all convinced it behaves right. 13:25 Mika_R they seem to spawn up to 2 blocks from water 13:25 VanessaE yes 13:26 VanessaE I think I need to reduce that to 1 block from water and only on the same vertical position 13:26 Mika_R how about making them spawn on sand and dirt only? 13:29 VanessaE I dunno 13:29 Mika_R now they even grow in my basement where i have watermills to generate power 13:29 VanessaE I don't want to mess up peoples' nice beaches 13:29 Mika_R then dirt only 13:30 VanessaE maybe you're right 13:30 Mika_R ill restart, brb 13:33 Mika_R im back 13:33 VanessaE wb 13:33 VanessaE ok, water, dirt, grass only, and only within one node of a shoreline. 13:33 VanessaE now I'm looking for the best way to make it spawn on stone but only on stones that are surrounded by water 13:34 Mika_R i'll take a look at my place if it grows around 13:37 Mika_R VanessaE, how do i make myself almighty on singleplayer? 13:37 VanessaE /grant singleplayer all 13:38 Mika_R how does give work? 13:39 VanessaE /giveme default:stone 999 13:39 Mika_R thx 13:40 Mika_R ill test that towntest in singleplayer if it works properly 13:44 Kacey hello 13:45 Mika_R hi 13:45 Kacey how r u 13:45 Jordach VanessaE, back 13:45 VanessaE wb 13:45 Kacey hello jordach 13:46 Mika_R vanessaE, am i supposed to put the zip or extract it to the mods folder+ 13:46 Mika_R ? 13:46 VanessaE eh? 13:47 VanessaE what zip? 13:47 Mika_R to get mods in singleplayer, i have towntest as a zip file 13:47 VanessaE oh 13:47 VanessaE extract the zip somewhere, rename the resultant folder if necessary, then copy the folder to your minetest mods directory 13:48 VanessaE (rename is needed for example if a mod came from github) 13:48 Jordach VanessaE, unless you insert a folder into the git repo 13:48 Jordach like i do 13:48 VanessaE right 13:49 VanessaE I do that with my texture packs 13:49 VanessaE but not with my mods 13:49 Jordach all i have to do is drag my folder out and done 13:49 VanessaE is there an easy way in Lua to get he length of a returned list? 13:49 VanessaE the* 13:49 Kacey i still need a good texture making software 13:50 Jordach the gimp 13:50 Jordach paint.net 13:50 VanessaE kacey: any good image editor will do that job just fine 13:50 Kacey besides micrrosoft paint 13:50 Kacey gimp is confusing 13:51 VanessaE take time to learn it 13:51 Kacey brb 13:52 VanessaE table.getn(myArray) 13:52 VanessaE that's the function I needed. 13:53 Kacey found the download button 13:55 Kacey back 13:59 Kacey hello... 13:59 VanessaE hi 13:59 Kacey i am downloading paint.net 14:01 Kacey i am sooooo tired 14:03 Kacey anybody home!!!! 14:04 Jordach hmm 14:06 OldCoder Back 14:06 OldCoder VanessaE, Artur is in Romania 14:06 Mika_R oldcoder, are all the mods on Europe newest releases? 14:08 VanessaE good morning OldCoder 14:08 OldCoder Mika_R, They are the newest that people have said to use and that are considered stable. If you notice something out of date let me know. 14:08 Kacey paint.net is pretty cool 14:09 OldCoder Who paged me? 14:09 OldCoder *scroll* 14:10 Mika_R oldcoder, can't make glow glass, they are more blocks and that mod is on the list 14:11 VanessaE Mika_R: I think I have the changes for flowers done right. testing that now. 14:11 Kacey reload the mod 14:12 OldCoder Mika_R, verifying it is there 14:12 Kacey im going to make a player texture 14:13 OldCoder Mika_R, which mod is glow glass? 14:13 Mika_R oldcoder, as far as i know its moreblocks 14:14 OldCoder You have the latest version from git 14:14 OldCoder Hold on 14:14 Kacey yes it is moreblocks 14:15 Kacey my player texture is going to be awesome 14:16 OldCoder Mika_R, moreblocks is there and it is a version from two days ago. If you tell me what to search for I will grep the logs. 14:16 OldCoder This is the Europe world BTW 14:16 Mika_R i'm on europe and try to make glowglass without success 14:16 OldCoder Mika_R, see the above 14:17 OldCoder Mika_R, moreblocks is there and it is a version from two days ago. If you tell me what to search for I will grep the logs. 14:17 Mika_R dummy that down for me 14:17 OldCoder Mika_R, There is not enough information for me to say anything at all. 14:17 OldCoder Mika_R, I have the logs 14:17 OldCoder Mika_R, we can fix this 14:18 OldCoder Mika_R, tell me what to look for in the logs 14:18 OldCoder Mika_R, then perhaps I can comment 14:18 OldCoder Done 14:18 OldCoder 14:18 OldCoder Mika_R, I do not maintain mods 14:18 OldCoder Mika_R, Instead I coordinate them 14:18 OldCoder Mika_R, I can also help to debug them 14:18 Mika_R all i know is that glowglass is a part of moreblocks, and is crafted middle row from bottom up is glass and torch 14:18 OldCoder Mika_R, If glowglass does not work please speak with mod author 14:19 OldCoder Calinou 14:19 OldCoder 14:19 OldCoder I will grep the logs now 14:20 Kacey laggy computer 14:21 OldCoder 14:21 OldCoder Mika_R, can you provide information about what to look for in the logs? I do not see glow anywhere in the main log 14:21 OldCoder 14:22 Mika_R wait a sec 14:22 OldCoder In the debug log is this: 14:22 OldCoder 09:24:22: VERBOSE[main]: Server: 03490126d74209265e4a097f220b72704e548050 is moreblocks_glowglass.png 14:22 OldCoder 14:22 OldCoder It appears glowglass is present 14:22 OldCoder So is superglowglass 14:23 OldCoder 14:23 OldCoder Mika_R, it is not called glowglass but superglowglass 14:24 OldCoder Calinou, does moreblocks contain glowglass or superglowglass? 14:24 Calinou superglowglass = same texture as glowglass but glows more :P 14:24 Calinou it contains both 14:24 Calinou glowglass is light level 10, superglowglass 14 14:24 OldCoder Calinou, I see super in the logs but not regular 14:24 OldCoder Wait 14:24 OldCoder There it is 14:24 Calinou superglowglass is 1 glass + 2 torch, glowglass 1 glass + 1 torch 14:24 OldCoder "moreblocks:glowglass 1", recipe={ "torch","glass" } 14:24 OldCoder Mika_R, state the problem again 14:25 OldCoder Mika_R, the recipe is registered and in the logs 14:25 Mika_R i cant make them 14:25 VanessaE is there a command I can issue that will freeze the day/night cycle at a certain time? 14:25 JangoFett154 Hey OldCoder i dont hvae give priv, i cant finish the mansin without it 14:25 Mika_R i have the lua in the background and found it there, don't know how old release 14:26 OldCoder JangoFett154, PM 14:29 Mika_R i can craft about everything else there is in moreblocks, but not glowglass 14:29 Mika_R Calinou, have you changed any recipes? 14:32 VanessaE OldCoder, Mika_R: please update your copies of flowers mod 14:32 VanessaE I've reworked the seaweed. 14:33 Mika_R nice 14:33 VanessaE Calinou: you really should use shapeless recipes for [super]glowglass and bronze btw. 14:33 Calinou it does already 14:33 VanessaE as well as coal and iron glasses 14:34 VanessaE when did that change? 14:34 Kacey ok player front s done 14:35 Kacey player back is done 14:37 OldCoder Hi 14:37 OldCoder VanessaE, Proceeding 14:39 Kacey what is the adress that you put in to make two clients on the same computer 14:40 VanessaE 127.0.0.1 14:40 VanessaE if you set up a server locally of course 14:40 Kacey ok 14:42 Kacey ok need to work on transparency 14:50 OldCoder VanessaE, flowers are updated but will not appear until next server rebuild. I will hold that until later today unless people need it. Reason is to avoid too many interruptions of players. 14:50 VanessaE ok 14:50 OldCoder VanessaE, BTW some of your textures are now in. I will proceed judiciously. Adding or subtracting individual textures to find a good mix. 14:51 VanessaE sounds good 14:51 VanessaE bbl, I need to lie down 14:51 OldCoder k 14:52 OldCoder Is there consensus regarding Mika_R glowglass issue? 14:55 Jordach VanessaE should have this http://i.imgur.com/xSraQ.jpg 14:55 Kacey my texture is pretty good 14:55 OldCoder Kacey, what is it for? 14:56 Kacey player texture 14:57 OldCoder Kacey, I will make it one of the player textures if you like for the server nexus 14:57 OldCoder Eventually everybody will have one 14:57 OldCoder of their own, I mean 14:58 Kacey it is still a wip 14:58 OldCoder Fine 14:58 Kacey but that would be ok 14:58 Kacey 5 minutes is all i need 14:58 OldCoder When you are ready, provide a copy 14:58 OldCoder No rush 14:58 Kacey ok 14:58 OldCoder Take longer 14:58 OldCoder I am here 14:58 Kacey ok 14:59 Kacey trasparency isue 14:59 Kacey issue* 15:02 Kacey ok got player front done 15:04 * PilzAdam is back 15:05 Kacey hello 15:06 OldCoder PilzAdam, wb 15:06 Kacey PilzAdam i like your workers mod 15:07 PilzAdam only parts of it are from me 15:07 Kacey really? 15:07 PilzAdam you mean Towntest? 15:07 Kacey no workers mod 15:07 PilzAdam what workers mod? 15:08 Kacey sorry i thought you were local_alchemist 15:08 PilzAdam why? 15:08 Kacey idk 15:10 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/c8Rwp.gif 15:10 OldCoder ? 15:12 Kacey freakin a man 15:12 Kacey transparency hates me 15:13 Jordach http://imgur.com/gallery/eMBoO - this needs to be an ore NOW, Calinou, get to it, 15:14 Kacey .lol 15:15 NakedFury dammit there are so many silvery looking ores it pisses me off 15:15 Kacey lol 15:16 Kacey make it all colorful 15:17 Kacey my brain hurts man 15:25 Calinou tin and silver look quite similar, yeah :p 15:25 Calinou http://imgur.com/gallery/W8TBc < lol 15:28 OldCoder Calinou, any thoughts on Mika_R glowglass issue? If none sorry to disturb you 15:32 Calinou dunno 15:33 NakedFury silver, tin, zinc, chromium 15:34 NakedFury unless I just add a color to the silver they end up looking the same 15:34 NakedFury that or also add/make new mineral looking versions but when it comes to ingot they end up looking the same 16:06 T_A_N_K sfan5, come play rigs of rods with me on the server! 16:06 sfan5 now? 16:07 T_A_N_K yes 16:07 T_A_N_K rigs of rods works perfect in wine now 16:09 Jordach T_A_N_K, sfan5, id rather be playing qwop 16:09 sfan5 lol 16:09 T_A_N_K i am on server smallisland.terrn 16:15 OldCoder mrtux, Hello 16:15 mrtux hi 16:29 PilzAdam little update in throwing mod: https://github.com/PilzAdam/throwing/commit/c74812bee3751b130c6130adb36912a8e167634c 16:35 rubenwardy My brother is a two-faced little arser 16:35 rubenwardy *arse 16:36 Jordach rubenwardy, same here 16:37 Jordach and why> 16:50 PilzAdam the spawing of the mobs in mobs mod can now be disabled by other mods: https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/commit/843009965f98f6aa51de417156651f67587dbb23 16:56 Jordach whoops, close button is evil in xchat without warnings :( 16:56 PilzAdam yep 16:57 FreeFull Jordach: That's why I use irssi in tmux =P 16:57 Calinou lolirssi 16:57 Calinou hexchat FTW 16:57 FreeFull Bleh, GUI 16:58 Jordach FreeFull, Calinou, WINDOWS XP 16:58 NakedFury bleh other ircs. hexchat rules them all 16:58 Calinou Jordach: hexchat works on windows 16:58 Jordach AdiIRC 16:58 NakedFury yes it does! 16:58 Jordach :D 16:58 NakedFury I am using hexchat windows 7 64x 16:58 FreeFull Calinou: Does hexchat warn you if you press x ? 16:58 Calinou no 16:58 Calinou but why would you do that? 16:58 Calinou X == close 16:58 Calinou - == minimize 16:59 Calinou X only minimizing is stupid 16:59 Calinou and warnings are stupid 16:59 Calinou they're from the windows world 16:59 Calinou "DO U WANT TO DELTE DIS??????????" 16:59 Calinou when you're just pressing "del", which puts stuff in trash 16:59 * PilzAdam deletes Calinou without warning 16:59 Jordach Calinou, i like what i like 16:59 Jordach DEAL WITH IT 17:00 Jordach VanessaE, can you kick Calinou's ass 17:02 PilzAdam wtf: https://github.com/PilzAdam/beds/blob/master/init.lua#L150 17:02 PilzAdam does nobody read my mods and see bugs like this? 17:02 Calinou looks like github's text editing is now server side... and lacks syntax coloring for me :| 17:04 * Jordach uses notepad++ 17:04 Jordach deal. with. it. 17:04 Jordach also, dinner 17:05 thexyz i thought nobody uses it 17:06 thexyz at least it's better than notepad.exe 17:06 RealBadAngel hi 17:09 Calinou NP++ ftw 17:10 Calinou thexyz: a lot of people use it 17:10 Calinou most used editor after windows' notepad 17:10 thexyz that doesn't make it better 17:13 Calinou it has lots of stuff :P 17:13 Calinou eg. find something in a folder (in text's content), and replace it 17:13 Calinou no fucking around with sed anymore (and there's no sed on windows anyway) 17:14 thexyz i'm sure there is 17:24 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/beds/commit/0d2d3d203bc46a28a77383dca3870f514808f3d4 17:26 rubenwardy is github down *again* 17:26 PilzAdam no... ? 17:30 Jordach rubenwardy, DNS not resolved? 17:31 rubenwardy it works now, for me 17:31 rubenwardy for i a few secs it was 17:32 Jordach rubenwardy, the eu is testing major network ddos attacks 17:32 PilzAdam Jordach, citation needed 17:34 Jordach PilzAdam, that sounds like the most obvious cause 17:55 * Jordach_ is burning Wip3out 3 to CD 17:55 PilzAdam strange... all youtube vids are blue/red inverted 17:55 Jordach_ Google is probably upto its tricks 17:58 Jordach_ PilzAdam, is your gpu dying? 17:58 Jordach_ youtube is the same 17:58 PilzAdam dunno 17:58 Vohveli Jordach_: he's an IRC acquaintance mostly, I've known him some 7-8 years 18:00 PilzAdam Jordach_, if I use pop out it is normal 18:05 Jordach_ Vohveli, my question is, how _DID_ you gain moderator status for minetest forums 18:06 Vohveli Jordach_: he gave it to me 18:07 Vohveli it was some time ago, I haven't been very active recently 18:08 rubenwardy An hour and a bit until Merlin! 18:10 cosarara97 no! 18:10 cosarara97 I broke my bones 18:10 cosarara97 lol 18:10 rubenwardy You know what would be cool, a craft database. You can move items into a craft box, and it tells you what mods use that recipe, and what for 18:11 PilzAdam you mean like craft guide? 18:12 rubenwardy but for all mods and on the internet, so it will minimise craft conflicts with new mod 18:12 rubenwardy s 18:13 rubenwardy anyway, craft guide is object --> recipe, this one will be recipe --> object 18:14 Jordach_ rubenwardy, doctor who is BETTER THAN merlin 18:15 NakedFury doctor who is better than everything 18:15 Jordach_ +8 18:15 rubenwardy not the latest series, but the one before that was good 18:16 NakedFury yeah he was special 18:16 NakedFury im expecting something expectacular with the new companion chick 18:17 OldCoder NakedFury, hey 18:17 NakedFury hey 18:18 rubenwardy Was the cracks the episode before the lasted one, or was it before that? 18:19 NakedFury can you reword that sentence? 18:20 NakedFury last episode this half of the season was the good bye of the Ponds 18:20 rubenwardy When was the series with the cracks and the explosion of the tardis? 18:21 NakedFury hmm the cracks... 18:21 rubenwardy was it the set before the one we just had, or was it before that 18:22 NakedFury before 18:22 NakedFury http://doctorwhotv.co.uk/cracks-in-time-4339.htm 18:24 rubenwardy time goes fast... 18:24 NakedFury http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Story_arcs_in_Doctor_Who 18:24 NakedFury yes dammit 18:24 NakedFury no time to enjoy it 18:25 Jordach_ bbl, taking girlfriend home 18:28 rubenwardy The actor of Amy Pond was in the Fires of Pompeii Episode 18:29 NakedFury I like her 18:30 NakedFury the new companion is supposed to be the girl that erased the Doctor from history in Asylum of the Daleks 18:31 rubenwardy i heard 18:31 NakedFury I guess its gonna be some kind of meet her in the past then tag along then when they part she dies 18:31 NakedFury that sucks 18:31 rubenwardy but does the doctor's wife move in 18:32 NakedFury maybe. he knows she will die soon-ish 18:32 rubenwardy same with the doctor's wife, first seen in episode where she dies 18:32 NakedFury yeah that was sad once you know it 18:32 NakedFury ohh shit someone who is great friends with the doctor then BOOM POW! she is fried 18:33 rubenwardy i reckon that happens to her in the next 5-10 years of her life. 18:33 NakedFury yeah, she really knows how to keep that figure 18:34 NakedFury would be interesting to see if by the end a baby is born out of that 18:34 NakedFury too hapy an ending 18:35 rubenwardy like in that episode where the Doctor is cloned. The Doctor thought her "daughter" died, but she ran off in a space ship somewhere. Never seen again 18:35 NakedFury yes 18:35 NakedFury that was also cool 18:36 rubenwardy i wonder if the doctors "daughter" will turn up... 18:36 NakedFury I would not hate that. would be totally not against it. a sort of family entourage time 18:36 rubenwardy because she is a time lord (kind off) 18:37 NakedFury she did show a regeneration 18:37 rubenwardy yes 18:37 rubenwardy|away brb 18:41 Octupus hello 18:42 Octupus how do i make a cloud diggable? 18:42 Octupus because im making a new mod :) 18:46 rubenwardy back 18:46 rubenwardy redefine default:cloud 18:46 rubenwardy iirc 18:47 Octupus ik what to do now 18:47 TheRedMoodWin Hello :) 18:48 rubenwardy ie: in the default mod, cloud is defined with the group "immortal", which makes it, err, immortal, indestructable 18:51 Octupus http://pastebin.com/A6sMftMv 18:51 Octupus some1 review that and tell me if it wud work 18:53 TheRedMoodWin There are }) in the top 18:53 TheRedMoodWin is that a pase mistake or? 18:54 Octupus paste mistake 18:54 TheRedMoodWin okey 18:54 Octupus will that work? 18:54 TheRedMoodWin From what I can see yes... 18:54 TheRedMoodWin I have not being doing this for long 18:55 Octupus ok thanks 19:02 Octupus http://pastebin.com/XtBfUgRD 19:02 Octupus ^some1 review that for me please 19:02 Octupus and see if it is correct 19:03 TheRedMoodWin Octupus A tips is to write the code and test it with the game. Ask for reviews if you are completly done or if something doesn't work. ;) 19:04 Octupus im testing in the game now 19:04 TheRedMoodWin Good :) 19:04 _2cool4me4_ New video going up soon! ^.^ 19:05 Octupus hmm' 19:07 TheRedMoodWin Nice! 19:07 TheRedMoodWin :D 19:07 Octupus hmmm i cant seem to get the mod to work 19:07 TheRedMoodWin Just started on a collection of server side autorities. 19:07 Octupus well to make them diggable 19:07 TheRedMoodWin utilities* 19:14 _2cool4me4_ Guess what my video will be of... 19:14 TheRedMoodWin Cats 19:14 _2cool4me4_ uhh.. no 19:15 TheRedMoodWin http://gifsound.com/?gif=http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj7e34Tgt11qhy6c9o1_400.gif&sound=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWa-rWSsoZA 19:15 TheRedMoodWin Well mine is :) 19:15 _2cool4me4_ It involves Minetest 19:15 TheRedMoodWin damn 19:15 TheRedMoodWin I would never have guessed that :) 19:15 _2cool4me4_ so continue guessing 19:16 TheRedMoodWin What do you think of my video? 19:16 _2cool4me4_ uhhhh 19:18 _2cool4me4_ It's interesting... I think 19:22 TheRedMoodWin 5 hours and 44 minutes in 19:22 TheRedMoodWin And it still just as beautiful 19:23 _2cool4me4_ Neko isn't here... 19:25 _2cool4me4_ 95% 19:30 _2cool4me4_ I hate not being able to upload custom thumbnails... 19:38 _2cool4me4_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c-NlXo-Mxw 19:52 TheRedMoodWin one function down :) 19:52 TheRedMoodWin A basic /list function 20:46 PilzAdam bye 21:00 _2cool4me4_ It's too bad Minetest can't generate caves... 21:07 OldCoder JangoFett154, wb 21:07 FreeFull _2cool4me4_: What do you mean 21:07 FreeFull You mean ravines? 21:18 mrtux There's a problem with minetest for windows 21:18 mrtux it consumes way too much memory 21:18 mrtux and crashes a lot 21:19 OldCoder Do we know about the memory for sure? 21:19 mrtux idk 21:19 mrtux it makes my computer lag to death 21:19 mrtux but when i play minecraft 21:19 mrtux it works perfectly fine 21:19 mrtux hardly any lag 21:19 OldCoder anybody comment? 21:20 mrtux 0.4.1 was quite stable 21:20 VanessaE afternoon all. 21:20 TheRedMoodWin Hello 21:20 TheRedMoodWin Did anyone see the game Carlsen played today? It was really a power show. 21:24 mrtux hexchat just crashed after minetest crashed 21:28 TheRedMoodWin There 21:28 TheRedMoodWin Now i have motd 21:28 TheRedMoodWin death messages 21:29 TheRedMoodWin list 21:29 TheRedMoodWin hmm 21:29 TheRedMoodWin Now just to add more stuff :D 21:34 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, what are you doing? Sounds good 21:34 Jordach_ VanessaE, hey 21:34 VanessaE hi 21:34 OldCoder VanessaE, Jordach_ hi 21:35 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder I was looking around on the forums 21:35 OldCoder I need to go eat soon. I will cycle the worlds later. Does anybody need anything? I will be AFK for a couple of hours. 21:35 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, go on 21:35 Jordach yay 21:35 OldCoder yay? say i pray why yay 21:35 TheRedMoodWin OldCoderAnd saw that no one really had any server side utilitys 21:35 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, I am writing them 21:35 OldCoder They are needed 21:35 TheRedMoodWin So i decided that I could try 21:36 TheRedMoodWin Ohh 21:36 TheRedMoodWin I am sure yours will be much better than mine :) 21:36 TheRedMoodWin I started today, and I've just gotte naround to having MOTDS And so on 21:36 TheRedMoodWin But I am aiming at high configurability 21:36 TheRedMoodWin So all the messages are going to be variables in an config file 21:36 TheRedMoodWin I though of finding a server owner who was willing to try them out at a later stage 21:37 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder https://github.com/TheRedMood/redsand 21:37 OldCoder Reviewing 21:37 TheRedMoodWin Just pushed the changes up to github :) 21:37 OldCoder Hold on 21:37 TheRedMoodWin I have never touched lua before 21:37 OldCoder I will download and examine 21:37 OldCoder Right now 21:37 TheRedMoodWin Oh. 21:37 TheRedMoodWin Can't you do it on github? 21:37 OldCoder Hmm? 21:37 Jordach bloody hell!! two subscribers in 10 mins http://i.imgur.com/DUuze.png 21:38 OldCoder I just did 21:38 OldCoder Jordach, ok 21:38 TheRedMoodWin Well it is not really worth a download, sir/mis. 21:38 VanessaE well I know anything I make is always worth a download ;) 21:39 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, we shall see! 21:39 TheRedMoodWin I just found the API really good, so I thought that I could give it a shot. I really love the idea behind minetest. Open source is so tasty :) 21:39 Jordach VanessaE, textures...nix 21:39 OldCoder Jordach, I am using some of hers now 21:39 OldCoder Plus dokutest 21:39 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder Are there any formatting rules for lua? I would like to know of that if it is 21:39 TheRedMoodWin Need to note down that... 21:40 TheRedMoodWin VanessaE, I take it that the sufix would be mis then? 21:40 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, I have my own style. I will post mods in the future and you can review. For now, hold on. I am checking your mod. 21:40 VanessaE TheRedMoodWin: in my case, Mrs. actually :-) 21:40 _2cool4me4_ so did you guys see my new video? 21:41 TheRedMoodWin VanessaE Let me not that down, Mrs. 21:41 VanessaE TheRedMoodWin: no formatting rules really no, but it's common to just hit tab to indent and to line up closing braces with the first char of the line that opened one.. 21:41 VanessaE (ditto for 'end' on loops, functions, etc) 21:41 VanessaE else it's really up to you 21:42 _2cool4me4_ http://youtu.be/3c-NlXo-Mxw 21:42 TheRedMoodWin Okey. Coming from some python I really recent that 21:42 VanessaE but if you wanted to you could use one space, or 50, or some obscure mix of spaces and tabs if it suits your fancy :-) 21:43 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, we will try your mod temporarily 21:43 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder any thing uet? 21:43 OldCoder On all the worlds in my nexus 21:43 TheRedMoodWin What? 21:43 TheRedMoodWin O_O 21:43 OldCoder Being installed shortly 21:43 TheRedMoodWin Wait a secound...... 21:43 OldCoder A few minutes 21:43 OldCoder Four updates are coming 21:43 OldCoder :-) 21:43 TheRedMoodWin What do you mean? 21:44 TheRedMoodWin Are you a server owner? 21:44 VanessaE hahaha 21:44 VanessaE ppf....mmmhhh......>>>BAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAAH 21:44 TheRedMoodWin O_o 21:44 TheRedMoodWin May I ask what is so funny, Mrs? 21:44 VanessaE he runs like 20 of them or something :-) 21:44 TheRedMoodWin Well that is, wow. 21:44 TheRedMoodWin Hosted your self or? 21:45 VanessaE (actually 10 or 11 now isn't it?) 21:45 TheRedMoodWin In that case wat distro, sir? 21:45 TheRedMoodWin I use slackware for my homebox 21:45 TheRedMoodWin But the poor distro coulden't compile minetest :( 21:45 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, I have a Linux distro and 15 MT worlds 21:45 OldCoder It will compile 21:45 OldCoder Needs nudging 21:45 * TheRedMoodWin is tucking the bed for his slackware box. 21:46 VanessaE slackware? *shudder* 21:46 TheRedMoodWin But 21:46 TheRedMoodWin What did you mean by updates? 21:46 * VanessaE <- Xubuntu. 21:46 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, I am busy and will Twitter and announce here too 21:46 OldCoder Preparing updates 21:46 OldCoder 15 minutes 21:46 OldCoder I need to check things 21:46 TheRedMoodWin o.o 21:46 TheRedMoodWin I get nothing of what you are saying right now.. 21:46 TheRedMoodWin I am really sorry, sir. 21:47 TheRedMoodWin Are you going to update my code or your servers? 21:47 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, Your code goes into 15 worlds in a few minutes 21:47 OldCoder For testing 21:47 OldCoder 21:47 TheRedMoodWin And also if you are planing to use my mod, I would also be really pleased if you could give me suggestions 21:47 TheRedMoodWin O_O 21:48 TheRedMoodWin Thank you so much 21:48 OldCoder Updates will include VanessaE flowers, PilzAdam farming plus, cornernote Town Text, and TheRedMoodWin new mod 21:48 TheRedMoodWin please 21:48 TheRedMoodWin Its TheRedMood 21:48 TheRedMoodWin Win is because im not on my gentoo box 21:48 TheRedMoodWin And the mod name is redsand 21:49 TheRedMoodWin If you have any suggestions or requests please tell me. 21:49 VanessaE gentoo? -funroll_loops -O23 -Dracing_stripes -Dtype_r_sticker -Dsomeother_damn_thing 21:49 VanessaE ;) 21:50 OldCoder TheRedMoodW k 21:50 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, people will review 21:50 Lumpio- TheRedMoodWin: ...why not permanently run a client on your gentoes box 21:51 Lumpio- Then you won't need alternate nicks 21:51 TheRedMoodWin I do 21:51 TheRedMoodWin I have a tmux session 21:51 TheRedMoodWin Give me a secound 21:51 OldCoder U.S. worlds going down 21:51 Lumpio- So why would you have separate nicks 21:51 TheRedMood Hello 21:51 TheRedMood Because this is on the slackware box 21:51 TheRedMood And that is my home server. 21:52 OldCoder U.S. worlds being backed up 21:52 TheRedMood IT keeps logs for me and so on, but having ssh open is sometimes a bad idea 21:52 TheRedMood Old code wait 21:52 TheRedMood I need to do something with one of the files 21:52 OldCoder Go ahead 21:52 OldCoder I can update every world quickly 21:53 OldCoder VanessaE, your flowers will update with the rest 21:53 VanessaE ok 21:53 OldCoder I will leave in 15 minutes after update 21:53 VanessaE I toned down how much the seaweed grows and under what conditions 21:53 OldCoder I request people try Town Test Farming Plus Flowers and Red Sand 21:53 OldCoder to test 21:53 OldCoder before I go 21:53 envoyxiphos What Happend Old? 21:53 OldCoder updates 21:53 envoyxiphos I was logging everything. 21:53 OldCoder Sorry 21:53 OldCoder Please forgive me 21:53 OldCoder I must go eat 21:53 envoyxiphos here I will copy/paste what i have so far to you 21:54 OldCoder No need 21:54 envoyxiphos ? 21:54 envoyxiphos y? 21:54 OldCoder You were chatting correct? 21:54 envoyxiphos yes 21:54 OldCoder I have it in the logs if you were 21:54 envoyxiphos No 21:54 OldCoder I have it all 21:54 TheRedMoodWin Okey 21:54 OldCoder Oh? 21:54 envoyxiphos I want to show you 21:54 OldCoder Sure 21:54 OldCoder I want to as well 21:54 OldCoder ATM is not good 21:54 OldCoder Wrist is not well 21:54 envoyxiphos watch PM. 21:54 OldCoder And I must eat 21:54 OldCoder O.K. 21:54 TheRedMoodWin There 21:54 TheRedMoodWin Now pull again 21:54 TheRedMoodWin And it should be fine 21:54 OldCoder All set? 21:55 OldCoder k 21:56 TheRedMoodWin Yes 21:56 TheRedMoodWin pul now 21:56 TheRedMoodWin Sorry, there was a debugging function in the code 21:56 TheRedMoodWin Which I needed to get rid of 21:56 OldCoder TheRedMood, suggestion: add a file named depends.txt which contains the line defaualt 21:56 OldCoder Excuse me 21:56 OldCoder default 21:56 OldCoder 21:56 TheRedMoodWin yes 21:58 TheRedMoodWin okey 21:58 TheRedMoodWin pushing now 21:59 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, done? 21:59 TheRedMoodWin no 22:00 TheRedMoodWin git is hating on me 22:00 TheRedMoodWin give me 2 min 22:00 RealBadAngel TheRedMood, why server status command is called with "sand"? 22:01 TheRedMoodWin there 22:01 TheRedMoodWin Yeah 22:01 TheRedMoodWin That is the command that was removed 22:01 RealBadAngel seen the code, quite useful 22:01 TheRedMoodWin thanks 22:01 TheRedMoodWin I will work more on it tommorow 22:01 RealBadAngel but was wondering bout meaning of "sand" 22:02 TheRedMoodWin that isthe comand that is removed 22:02 TheRedMoodWin the meaning of sand in the name 22:02 TheRedMoodWin RedSand 22:02 TheRedMoodWin Is my name 22:02 TheRedMoodWin Red 22:02 RealBadAngel ah so 22:02 TheRedMoodWin And sand, tiny pieces that fits together 22:02 TheRedMoodWin But no big mountians 22:02 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder done now. 22:02 OldCoder Yes 22:03 TheRedMoodWin What is your twitter? 22:03 OldCoder BoldCoder 22:03 RealBadAngel ok, i was missing somethin like "list" 22:03 OldCoder Hold on 22:04 TheRedMoodWin Yes? 22:04 TheRedMoodWin I really need to go now 22:05 TheRedMoodWin okey I am going now 22:05 TheRedMoodWin ill give you 10 more min OldCoder 22:05 OldCoder Wait 22:05 TheRedMoodWin okey 22:06 OldCoder Folks his mod is crashing and I think it's this line 22:06 OldCoder dofile("../mods/minetest/redsand/conf.lua") 22:06 OldCoder I suspect it needs to be 22:06 OldCoder dofile("conf.lua") 22:06 OldCoder Is this correct? 22:06 TheRedMoodWin no 22:06 TheRedMoodWin wait 22:06 OldCoder Patching on this end 22:06 TheRedMoodWin Are you running it standalone? 22:06 OldCoder envoyxiphos, sorry about the wait 22:06 TheRedMoodWin yeah 22:06 OldCoder No; on the server side 22:06 TheRedMoodWin then it needs to be patched 22:06 VanessaE dofile(minetest.get_modpath("modname").."/filename.lua") 22:07 TheRedMoodWin I will patch that right now 22:07 OldCoder VanessaE, Not just the line I said hen? 22:07 OldCoder k 22:07 OldCoder Waiting 22:07 VanessaE where modname is the name of the mod that's running the dofile command, e.g. homedecor. 22:07 envoyxiphos I still cannot acces eaither servers. OldCoder 22:07 OldCoder envoyxiphos, see above 22:07 OldCoder I added his mod 22:07 OldCoder Must patch it or remove it now 22:07 OldCoder He is patching 22:07 OldCoder Will be just a minute hopefully 22:07 OldCoder envoyxiphos, For major changes a debug server will be used 22:08 OldCoder This is a minor one 22:08 VanessaE (I use lines of that form to pull other .lua files into init.lua at runtime, so I can keep my mods' code somewhat organized) 22:08 envoyxiphos VanessaE's? 22:08 OldCoder envoyxiphos, No TheRedMood 22:08 envoyxiphos What is his mod? 22:08 TheRedMoodWin Try now 22:08 TheRedMoodWin I am so soryr 22:09 TheRedMoodWin as i said it is only 3 hours old. 22:09 OldCoder :-) 22:09 TheRedMoodWin And thanks alot, Mrs! 22:09 TheRedMoodWin a lot* 22:09 VanessaE you're welcome :-) 22:09 envoyxiphos What does his mod do? 22:09 OldCoder RealBadAngel will show you 22:09 TheRedMoodWin It is going to be a collection of server utilites 22:09 OldCoder Rebuilding worlds 22:10 TheRedMoodWin And it also seems it is going to be tailored for OldCoder :) 22:10 * OldCoder shrugs 22:10 OldCoder Not for me 22:10 OldCoder For standard games 22:10 OldCoder Worlds restarted 22:10 envoyxiphos brb Gonna eat lunch be back in 15 22:10 TheRedMoodWin Yes, 22:10 OldCoder envoyxiphos, They should be up now 22:10 OldCoder Will somebody connect to a world and test his mod? 22:10 OldCoder 22:10 TheRedMoodWin But you are going to be one of the main income of requests 22:10 TheRedMoodWin I can try 22:10 TheRedMoodWin give me the ip 22:10 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I will wait to update Europe until tonight 22:10 OldCoder TheRedMood, one moment 22:11 OldCoder http://minetest.org/ 22:11 OldCoder Choose one of those worlds 22:12 TheRedMoodWin joining now 22:12 OldCoder Which world? 22:12 envoyxiphos -!- Server Welcome envoyxiphos. This Is The Default MOTD???? 22:12 OldCoder No 22:12 TheRedMoodWin Yes 22:12 envoyxiphos what does that mean? 22:12 TheRedMoodWin That is my mod 22:12 OldCoder We will fix it 22:12 TheRedMoodWin oldCoder 22:12 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin 22:12 TheRedMoodWin to change it go into conf.lua 22:12 OldCoder 22:12 OldCoder Which world? 22:12 TheRedMoodWin All of them 22:12 OldCoder Why put it there instead of Conf file? 22:12 TheRedMoodWin The motd message is stored there 22:13 TheRedMoodWin conf.lua is the configuration file 22:13 TheRedMoodWin BUT I NEED TO GO NOW! 22:13 TheRedMoodWin :D 22:13 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, I prefer to have MOD in the server conf file 22:13 OldCoder Good bye 22:13 TheRedMoodWin we can do that 22:13 OldCoder envoyxiphos, I will patch out that part later 22:13 TheRedMoodWin But please i need to sleep now 22:13 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, good night 22:13 TheRedMoodWin you can send me a mail of all the things you want 22:13 TheRedMoodWin to 22:13 OldCoder Somebody tell me... Where is his MOTD appearing? 22:13 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, good night 22:13 TheRedMoodWin teodor_spaeren@lavabit.com 22:13 TheRedMoodWin When they join 22:13 OldCoder C U 22:14 TheRedMoodWin Oldcoder 22:14 OldCoder Good night 22:14 TheRedMoodWin In the redsand folder 22:14 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, I need to patch that out 22:14 TheRedMoodWin There is a file named conf.lua 22:14 OldCoder Each world 22:14 OldCoder Has a different MOTD potentially 22:14 OldCoder So one mod 22:14 OldCoder Cannot set them all 22:14 OldCoder But good night 22:14 TheRedMoodWin I know x3 22:14 TheRedMoodWin I was trying to tell you have to stop it 22:14 OldCoder Go on 22:15 TheRedMoodWin Go into redsand.lua 22:15 TheRedMoodWin and under it there is an event section 22:15 TheRedMoodWin you should see it 22:15 TheRedMoodWin just remove the minetest.register_playerjoin 22:15 TheRedMoodWin part. 22:16 OldCoder Good night 22:16 TheRedMoodWin I will add options to disable them in the config file tommorow 22:16 OldCoder I will address this later 22:16 TheRedMoodWin See ya 22:16 OldCoder k 22:16 OldCoder See you 22:16 OldCoder ty 22:17 OldCoder LAD, wb 22:18 LAD hia 22:22 Jordach aww yeah 22:23 Jordach classic ps one games 22:26 TheRedMoodWin I am going now 22:27 TheRedMoodWin I just want to say thank you to OldCoder 22:27 TheRedMoodWin And Mrs. 22:27 TheRedMoodWin And I also want to say that I will add a lot more options to the conf file tommorow 22:27 TheRedMoodWin So that the MOTD problem is gone 22:27 TheRedMoodWin Thats it for me today 22:27 TheRedMoodWin For real this time :) 22:28 OldCoder He 22:28 OldCoder Hello 22:28 OldCoder and goodbye 22:28 TheRedMoodWin But does that sound okey? 22:28 OldCoder Sure! 22:28 OldCoder Good night 22:28 TheRedMoodWin Thanks :) 22:28 OldCoder Sleep tight 22:28 TheRedMoodWin you to. 22:28 OldCoder Etc. 22:29 anunakki hey guys 22:29 OldCoder anunakki, howdyd 22:29 OldCoder *howdy 22:29 anunakki anyone got a good reference for crafting/smelting etc.. because i mean the basics are simple, and a little beyond those, but creating stuff like, telepads, building chests, water supply etc. 22:45 RealBadAngel anunakki: cornernotes wiki pages 22:45 anunakki ty 22:45 RealBadAngel hes makin wikis for different mods 22:46 anunakki also 22:46 anunakki how long does it usuallyt ake a building chest to finish? 22:46 RealBadAngel https://sites.google.com/site/cornernote/minetest 22:46 RealBadAngel depends on the size of the build 22:47 anunakki ah, ok, because i've set up two and they're taking forever 22:47 anunakki and barely anything has been done 22:47 anunakki lol 22:47 RealBadAngel code is not yet perfect 22:47 anunakki yea 22:47 RealBadAngel hes workin on the issues 22:48 RealBadAngel ive found temporary solution if the worker stops 22:48 RealBadAngel go away, so the blocks with worker can unload 22:48 RealBadAngel go back, everythin should back to normal 22:49 RealBadAngel you can also try punching the chest before leavin to set it to inactive 22:49 RealBadAngel and when go back to active 22:50 RealBadAngel btw, givin apples to worker makes him move faster 22:54 OldCoder RealBadAngel, anybody: No problems so far with latest updates? All right. I'm leaving for a couple of hours shortly. 22:54 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I'll update Europe tonight 22:54 OldCoder If the U.S. servers continue to work 22:54 RealBadAngel ok 22:57 Jordach uh oh 22:57 Jordach xchat is missing mscvrt90.dll 22:57 pskosinski Try HexChat. :P 22:58 Jordach pskosinski, same code base, (probably same compiler) 22:58 Jordach so no :) 23:00 pskosinski But freeeeee 23:03 OldCoder HexChat is good 23:04 OldCoder HexChat is XChat reborn 23:04 OldCoder http://hexchat.org/ 23:04 OldCoder Try it 23:04 OldCoder <--- Likes HexChat 23:04 OldCoder Joooooooooin Uuuuuuuuuuuus 23:04 OldCoder 23:16 * Jordach puts foot down 23:16 * Jordach then proceeds to crush a coke can on the side of my head 23:17 OldCoder Sounds like fun 23:17 Jordach OldCoder, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14 23:17 OldCoder Downloading for later 23:18 OldCoder What is this? 23:18 OldCoder Odd 23:18 OldCoder 23:18 * OldCoder will return later 23:21 Jordach NOPE! 23:21 Jordach night all 23:33 Octupus Hi 23:38 NekoGloop http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jd3ms4IcRxg oppan nightcore style! 23:39 OldCoder Octupus, Hey 23:40 OldCoder Octupus, Next time there will be two medals 23:40 Octupus Yes 23:40 Octupus Next week 23:40 OldCoder Very well 23:41 skully_ oldcoder 23:41 OldCoder skully_, Hello 23:41 OldCoder skully_, I will try to PM 23:41 OldCoder skully_, Do you see another window or tab now? 23:42 skully_ no 23:42 OldCoder Then I will explain here as I am quite tired 23:42 OldCoder Hold on 23:42 OldCoder 23:42 skully_ no its working now 23:42 OldCoder Oh? 23:42 OldCoder Type something there 23:42 skully_ wait there is 23:58 VanessaE JangoFett154: tom was looking for you on redcrab:30401 earlier 23:59 JangoFett154 oh ok any idea what he wants? 23:59 * NekoGloop sets out a plate of pizza 23:59 JangoFett154 is he still on btw? 23:59 VanessaE nope, he just asked when you were last on...and he *just* signed off too\ 23:59 JangoFett154 oh ok