Time Nick Message 00:00 M13 OldCoder, do you know how to code shell script?* 00:00 OldCoder M13, Only for 35 years 00:00 M13 haha 00:00 M13 how can I make a .sh file to.. 00:00 M13 00:01 M13 ok lets start over 00:01 M13 How would I code it to make it to everytime you press enter I shows a nother paragraph 00:02 M13 OldCodeR? 00:03 OldCoder M13 Hi 00:03 OldCoder I will show you now 00:03 OldCoder Wait 00:03 OldCoder This is for paging output, right? 00:04 M13 yes 00:04 OldCoder There is a script in my GitHub that does this 00:04 OldCoder Hold on 00:04 M13 ok 00:05 OldCoder https://github.com/OldCoder/make-openssl-site 00:05 OldCoder M13, download that script and run it 00:05 OldCoder Or read it 00:05 OldCoder That might be safer 00:05 M13 OldCoder is ur name Robert? 00:05 OldCoder Yes 00:05 M13 ok 00:06 M13 I hound ur github 00:06 M13 found 00:06 OldCoder https://github.com/OldCoder/make-openssl-site 00:06 OldCoder But basically 00:06 OldCoder just do this: 00:06 OldCoder read 00:06 OldCoder cat <vi test.sh 00:50 cornernote Sun Oct 07 17:49:47 00:50 cornernote cornernote@ulaanbaatar:~>chmod u+x test.sh 00:50 cornernote Sun Oct 07 17:49:56 00:50 cornernote cornernote@ulaanbaatar:~>./test.sh 00:50 cornernote Welcome To Type Racer, type 'start' to start :P./test.sh: line 14: syntax error: unexpected end of file 00:50 cornernote look at line 14 00:50 M13 i did 00:50 cornernote end IFs with FI 00:50 cornernote i think 00:51 cornernote if [thing]; then 00:51 cornernote ...something 00:51 OldCoder Another MT server coming 00:51 cornernote fi 00:51 OldCoder This one is in Europe! 00:52 cornernote cornernote@ulaanbaatar:~>./test.sh 00:52 cornernote Welcome To Type Racer, type 'start' to start :PThis Might Be Hard For you :P 00:52 cornernote Type 'you are awesome'Sorry, you are too slow, Try Again :P 00:53 M13 it worked? 00:53 M13 how 00:53 cornernote appears to 00:53 cornernote i told you, change your closing IF to FI 00:53 M13 caps? 00:53 cornernote both of them 00:53 cornernote insensitive 00:53 M13 ok 00:56 cornernote works ? 00:57 M13 yep Thanks 00:57 M13 thanks a lot 00:57 cornernote glad to help 01:06 OldCoder 01:06 OldCoder Folks we have another announcement 01:06 OldCoder Today has been a productive day 01:06 OldCoder Announcement coming 01:10 Octupus Back 01:10 OldCoder Octupus, there is news 01:10 Octupus NakedFury: Thanks for the screenshots 01:10 Octupus Yes ? 01:11 OldCoder 1. OctuWater is everywhere. NakedFury has made patches. Get the new version from him. Or I will give it to you. 01:11 OldCoder 2. MT has music now! 01:11 OldCoder And sound effects 01:11 OldCoder 3. PilzAdam world is created on port 30010 01:11 OldCoder 4. There is a Europe server now! 01:11 OldCoder 01:11 OldCoder News ^ 01:11 OldCoder 01:11 Octupus :) 01:12 OldCoder Octupus, I will give you the new OctuWater 01:12 OldCoder Here is a link: 01:12 Octupus Thanks for the update 01:12 OldCoder http://minetest.org/octuwater.zip 01:12 OldCoder Octupus, download and use that ZIP file 01:12 OldCoder For future updates 01:13 Octupus Ok thanks but I am on iPod 01:14 Octupus I got another contributer :D 01:15 Octupus I guess my mod is popular now :) 01:15 OldCoder 01:15 OldCoder Will somebody meet a friend of mine on world 30007 01:16 OldCoder And teach him MT? 01:16 Octupus I wish I cud 01:16 OldCoder ty 01:16 OldCoder Anybody else? 01:16 OldCoder I have spent all day on MT. Will anybody do this small favor? 01:16 Octupus But iPod can't handle my 01:16 OldCoder Yes 01:16 Octupus Mt 01:17 Octupus I will tomorrow after swimming I promise 01:17 OldCoder 01:17 OldCoder Announcing the new Europe MT server 01:17 OldCoder <--- He promised he would try to make one 01:17 OldCoder Server: 188.165.73.223 01:17 OldCoder Port: 30000 01:17 Octupus How wud u make a Europe server 01:18 OldCoder Has music and lots of mods 01:18 OldCoder Octupus, on a Europe VPS 01:18 OldCoder 01:18 Octupus Ohhhh 01:18 OldCoder Europe people: Go and play! 01:18 OldCoder 01:18 Octupus Il make a forum topic for the European server 01:20 Octupus :) 01:20 OldCoder O.K. 01:20 OldCoder Octupus, you can change develan.com to minetest.org 01:20 OldCoder For your own server thread 01:20 Octupus Ok 01:21 OldCoder iqualfragile, still awake? Is the music and the PilzAdam world working for you? 01:21 Octupus Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 01:21 OldCoder Octupus, paste your post and I will edit it 01:21 Octupus I can't 01:21 Octupus iPod remember 01:21 M13 OldCoder 01:21 Octupus Hi m13 01:21 M13 I made Tetris in shell script 01:22 Octupus Oh cool 01:22 OldCoder M13, May I try it? 01:22 OldCoder M13, Octupus is there MT client for Mac yet? 01:22 OldCoder M13, Music works now in MT! 01:22 OldCoder Also Seagulls 01:22 Octupus I don't think so coder 01:22 OldCoder Octupus, ty 01:23 Octupus No 01:23 Octupus Np 01:23 Octupus Damn Typos 01:23 OldCoder ;-) 01:24 Octupus :-) 01:25 Octupus SVIZZERA 01:25 Octupus SVU 01:26 Octupus TYPOS AHH 01:27 M13 OldCoder 01:27 M13 Its Glitchy lolz 01:27 M13 I downloaded it from the net 01:28 Octupus Special Victims Unit :D 01:28 OldCoder M13, All right. Want me to try it anyway? 01:29 Octupus Hmmmmmmmmmm 01:30 Octupus NakedFury: What did u modify ? 01:31 NakedFury screen colors for all waters 01:31 OldCoder 01:31 NakedFury wrong texture name for yellow tile still water 01:31 OldCoder NakedFury, cornernote anybody else; I have spent all day on MT. Will anybody teach a friend of mine how to play? 01:32 Octupus Really 01:32 NakedFury gonna connect 01:32 Octupus Wasn't it octuwater_water_yellow 01:32 NakedFury well yellow or red 01:33 NakedFury check my screenshots 01:33 Octupus Ok 01:33 NakedFury one has colored water surrounding normal water 01:33 NakedFury that was fixed 01:33 Octupus Yes ik 01:33 Octupus I did that on purpose 01:33 NakedFury also go underwater in red or yellow or green and your screen will change 01:33 Octupus :D 01:34 Octupus Really :D 01:34 Octupus Ahhh :) 01:34 NakedFury and no more missing texture creating dummies messages 01:35 Octupus Thanks again 01:35 NakedFury 20% media loading for server oldcoder 01:35 OldCoder NakedFury, Music 01:35 OldCoder Slow the first time 01:35 NakedFury yes I know 01:35 OldCoder NakedFury, Wait; are you offering to help my friend? Which world? 01:36 NakedFury well 30k world 01:36 OldCoder k 01:36 OldCoder TY 01:42 OldCoder NakedFury, My friend is there. His name is daydreamer. 01:42 NakedFury saw him 01:43 OldCoder k 01:44 Octupus Laps 01:44 OldCoder Laps? 01:45 Octupus Typo 01:46 Octupus And I quote *sticks tongue out* 01:46 OldCoder ? 01:46 OldCoder Who? 01:46 Octupus Sparky 01:46 Octupus XD 01:49 OldCoder Ah! 01:49 OldCoder How is the little guy? 01:49 Octupus Has a broken leg 01:49 Octupus :( 01:49 OldCoder Oh; how? 01:49 OldCoder That is bad 01:50 Octupus I had him on my pc table 01:50 OldCoder An accident. How bad is it? 01:50 Octupus Then he ran off the side 01:50 OldCoder Fell? 01:50 OldCoder Animals are not evolved to deal with mechanical things 01:50 Octupus He hit a piece of wood then hot the ground 01:50 OldCoder Ouch 01:51 OldCoder Best not to have him on tables 01:51 OldCoder Is the leg seriously damaged? 01:51 Octupus It's swollen 01:51 Octupus A little 01:51 OldCoder If bone did not snap 01:51 OldCoder He may recover 01:51 Octupus By next 2 weeks he she's be alright 01:51 OldCoder Godspeed, Sparky 01:51 Octupus TYPOS 01:51 OldCoder ? 01:51 OldCoder Ah 01:52 OldCoder NakedFury, thank you again 01:52 Octupus Y did ppl make typos 01:52 Octupus :l 01:53 OldCoder Because our brains are interesting 01:53 OldCoder They look for patterns 01:53 OldCoder Sometimes they see the wrong patterns 01:53 OldCoder So they write 01:53 OldCoder "right" instead of "write" 01:53 OldCoder or "she" instead of "he" 01:53 OldCoder The words are almost write :-) 01:53 OldCoder 01:53 Octupus O 01:54 Octupus :D 01:55 Octupus Shake shake shake your sensa your sensa 01:56 OldCoder sensa? 01:56 OldCoder Music? 01:56 Octupus It's. Commercial to a weight loss powder 01:57 OldCoder Oh 01:57 OldCoder How artistic 01:57 Octupus Lolz 01:58 Phahrrgis Anyone use the realtest mod? 01:58 Octupus What's sat 01:59 Octupus *dat 01:59 Phahrrgis http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2671 01:59 Octupus I don't use it 02:00 Octupus Op op op op Oppa Gangnam style 02:16 OldCoder anunakki, wb 02:16 OldCoder Restarting MT worlds 02:17 NakedFury daydreamer went to eat dinner 02:17 OldCoder Yes 02:17 OldCoder NakedFury, thank you 02:17 NakedFury teaching him/her the basics so at least that part is learned 02:19 OldCoder NakedFury, Music works. Europe world works. PilzAdam world works. 02:20 NakedFury http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/1137ca/world_of_warcraft_for_minecraft_finally_released/ 02:23 M13 OldCoder 02:23 M13 Guess what I made 02:23 M13 :3 02:25 OldCoder A game 02:25 OldCoder may I see it? 02:25 M13 yes 02:25 M13 wait 02:25 M13 Let me make a cupple more things and Ill upload them 02:25 OldCoder k 02:29 cornernote api is public - http://api.minetest.net .. still has more work to do with both content and the app itself 02:29 cornernote if you would like to contribute to the content, or testing the app, please PM 02:30 cornernote i also moved gamewiki's to here - http://gamewiki.minetest.net/ 02:30 cornernote well, copied. i'll setup redirects on the old ones another time 02:31 OldCoder Stopping servers for just a moment 02:33 cornernote i am going to theme both of the sites to look similar 02:33 cornernote they will also look similar to minetest.net 02:33 cornernote maybe a tad more fancy looking =) 02:34 OldCoder cornernote, It all sounds good 02:36 OldCoder 02:36 OldCoder Worlds restarted 02:36 OldCoder Port 30001 now has a Mesecons version of Tuxworld 02:36 OldCoder Lots of changes today folks 02:36 OldCoder cornernote, have you tried the PilzAdam world? 02:37 OldCoder I am running 11 servers now 02:37 cornernote i think you have doubled the MT servers that are online 02:37 cornernote no, i havent played in a while 02:38 OldCoder 02:38 OldCoder I have added a Europe server 02:39 OldCoder Music. A PilzAdam world. And of course new mods. 02:39 OldCoder 02:39 OldCoder cornernote, Oh... and a faster Windows client :-) 02:39 OldCoder 02:39 OldCoder I will take a short break and update my webpage 02:39 OldCoder 02:41 Octupus Snapbacks and Tattoes 02:43 NekoGloop oh? VanessaE is still OP? 02:43 OldCoder NekoGloop, even more changes 02:43 NekoGloop excellent. 02:43 OldCoder NekoGloop, Europe server. Music; if you didn't hear it before. PilzAdam world. 02:44 OldCoder 11 worlds now. 12 counting Europe and I will add more there. 02:44 NekoGloop Europe server? Hope i never have to try that. ^^ 02:44 * NekoGloop proud EST denizen 02:45 Octupus OldCoder: Cuanto te questa para pagar Los vps 02:48 Octupus I got another idea for a mod :D 02:48 OldCoder Octupus, Good 02:48 OldCoder When ... for the VPS 02:48 OldCoder Hold on 02:48 OldCoder How much 02:48 OldCoder How much did it cost? 02:48 OldCoder Is that what the Spanish means? 02:48 Octupus But It gonna be more complicated 02:48 Octupus Yes 02:48 OldCoder I don't know yet 02:49 OldCoder But if it is too much I will get a Linode instead 02:53 NekoGloop i was thinking of making pillars that auto-place with the widening ends. 02:56 NekoGloop only problem is nodeboxes because I'm lazy like that. 03:05 NekoGloop i presume vanessae has already left for the night? 03:06 OldCoder I think so 03:06 OldCoder She has not spoken for a while 03:06 OldCoder NekoGloop, it is a big day for her tomorrow 03:06 OldCoder She may have an announcement 03:06 NekoGloop oh? 03:06 OldCoder Yes; but I will leave it to her. Point is that she is preoccupied. 03:06 NekoGloop i see. 03:07 OldCoder I will update my page now. I spent all day on MT. Should not have but at least it was productive. 03:09 OldCoder Servers going down for a fix 03:29 OldCoder Servers back 03:37 NakedFury Neko you could make technic use your ores 03:38 NakedFury or make kalite I think its called be used for food related stuff, like farming? 03:47 OldCoder It appears that default clouds must be disabled before PilzAdam alternative clouds will work. Is this true? If so how do I disable default clouds? 03:47 cornernote i think they work even if default clouds are there 03:47 cornernote unless he changed it 03:47 OldCoder O.K. 03:48 OldCoder cornernote, They are in all the worlds 03:48 OldCoder I don't see a difference but others said they did 03:48 cornernote this is how they look 03:48 cornernote http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=45627#p45627 03:48 OldCoder Reviewing 03:48 cornernote perhaps your view range is not high enough ? 03:48 OldCoder Perhaps 03:48 OldCoder How is that set? 03:49 cornernote u need in your minetest.conf ... 03:49 cornernote sec 03:49 OldCoder and I gather that I should disable default clouds after all 03:49 cornernote alternative_clouds = true in minetest.conf 03:49 OldCoder or they will both appear 03:49 OldCoder I have that 03:49 OldCoder I still see the blocky clouds 03:49 cornernote i dont know how to diable default clouds 03:49 OldCoder k 03:56 NekoGloop disable_clouds = true 03:56 NekoGloop NakedFury: RealBadAngel despises gloopores. 03:57 NakedFury you can use it anyway 03:57 NekoGloop i know 03:57 NekoGloop i made 1/2 the api ^^ 03:59 T_A_N_K players should only be able to use their own portals, good idea? 04:01 cornernote you have XP right? 04:01 cornernote portals could have an XP requirement 04:01 NekoGloop they do 04:01 cornernote based on distance or something 04:01 OldCoder NekoGloop, thank you! 04:01 cornernote oh, ok =) 04:01 NekoGloop also, happy monday. 04:01 OldCoder How do I set view range? 04:01 cornernote press + or - 04:01 OldCoder Ah 04:01 NekoGloop OldCoder: +/- on the numpad 04:01 OldCoder No way to set default then 04:01 OldCoder This is for users; not me 04:01 NekoGloop or R to set full render distance 04:02 OldCoder That crashes 04:02 NekoGloop it's client side 04:02 cornernote yeah, in the conf file i think 04:02 OldCoder I see 04:02 OldCoder ty 04:02 NekoGloop R doesnt crash 04:02 OldCoder NekoGloop, I thought you reported it did 04:02 OldCoder BTW 04:02 OldCoder LOTs of changes today 04:02 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/ 04:02 OldCoder Check news 04:02 NekoGloop i thought it did 04:02 OldCoder Ah 04:02 OldCoder k 04:02 leo_rockw XP, armor and oxygen could use a shared formspec to show stats. 04:02 NekoGloop it turned out to be fire, remember? 04:03 leo_rockw also, a hunger mod, if anybody comes up with taht 04:03 NekoGloop there is one, isnt there? 04:04 leo_rockw dunno 04:04 leo_rockw I haven't seen it. I've seen a food mod, though. 04:08 T_A_N_K what happened to the minetest api 04:08 T_A_N_K it was there this morning, now i cannot find it on github 04:09 NekoGloop probably... 04:18 T_A_N_K wieners, wieners, wieners. 04:18 NakedFury http://api.minetest.net/ 04:18 T_A_N_K http://youtu.be/whfw7O3bCYA 04:19 T_A_N_K but this is actually it 04:19 T_A_N_K https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt 04:20 NakedFury try cornernotes new api 04:22 OldCoder 04:22 OldCoder europe.minetest.org 04:22 OldCoder is the new Europe server 04:22 OldCoder 04:22 Calinou nice domain you have there 04:22 OldCoder Yes 04:22 * Calinou buys oldco.de 04:22 Calinou j/k :P 04:22 OldCoder Ha! 04:22 OldCoder That is a good one 04:23 OldCoder europe.minetest.org actually works now 04:23 Calinou or oldcode.ru, but that'll have an u :p 04:23 VanessaE don't you want oldcod.er (Eritrea) ? ;-) 04:23 OldCoder port 30000 there for our Europe friens 04:23 Calinou VanessaE: er exists? :O 04:23 VanessaE yup 04:23 OldCoder VanessaE, You are awake 04:23 VanessaE also hi 04:23 VanessaE yes but only just. 04:23 VanessaE not here for long 04:23 OldCoder VanessaE, Check out news page 04:23 OldCoder Busy Sunday in MT 04:24 OldCoder Just added europe.minetest.org 04:24 VanessaE cool 04:29 VanessaE ok I need some bugfixing help :-) 04:30 OldCoder Who will help VanessaE ? 04:31 VanessaE http://pastebin.com/57GgPCev <-- why does the code at line 72 insert the wrong node at {pos} when that node is supposed to go at pos y+1? If I change the code back to add_node() instead of place_node(), it works. 04:32 VanessaE does anyone have a description of *exactly* what I can pass to place_node() as part of the node field? 04:32 VanessaE (also, my param2 setting is being ignored, but that's secondary to the main problem) 04:37 T_A_N_K goodnight 04:42 * Calinou got two griefers at once 04:42 VanessaE no one knows? :( 04:44 OldCoder VanessaE, I am a novice 04:44 OldCoder Also very few people are here 04:44 VanessaE doesn't matter anyway 04:44 OldCoder Oh? 04:44 VanessaE I shouldn't have to use place_node() to do this when add_node() works perfectly. 04:45 VanessaE (but add_node() as I'm using it triggers a bug in node_ownership) 04:45 OldCoder All right 04:46 OldCoder Or not all right 04:46 * VanessaE shrugs 04:46 VanessaE that's why I was wondering where mikeonline went. 04:46 OldCoder Yes 04:46 OldCoder But late already 04:47 VanessaE oh well, I'll catch him tomorrow. 04:48 OldCoder Yep 04:50 Calinou PSA: P3t3r is a potential griefer, as Bing or B1n6 are 04:50 Calinou he's wanting build on redcrab's now 04:50 VanessaE This message brought to you by the Colalition for Calinou for Admin. 04:50 VanessaE :-) 04:51 VanessaE coalition even 04:54 OldCoder Colalition sounds drinkable 04:54 VanessaE haha 04:54 OldCoder Goes into the Cool Phrases Phile 04:58 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2011 < :( when will we have osx support... 04:58 Calinou OldCoder: Coca coal! :P 04:58 VanessaE haha 04:58 OldCoder Ha 04:59 OldCoder If there is an OSX VPS I will build OSX version right now 04:59 Calinou what do you mean by OSX VPS? a server? who would run a server on OS X? 04:59 * OldCoder shrugs 04:59 OldCoder If somebody wants support 04:59 OldCoder I will provide it 05:00 Calinou OldCoder: so far noone has managed to make a working OS X build for latest MT version with sound (ideally, not a requirement though) 05:00 OldCoder But there is a Mac OS X version 05:00 VanessaE well to be fair, OSX is BSD....coudn't you theoretically run a server on it? ;-) 05:00 Calinou you need xcode, too 05:00 OldCoder Yes 05:00 OldCoder It was tested tonight 05:00 Calinou VanessaE: OS X is not BSD, not the same kernel 05:00 OldCoder Hold on; getting the link 05:00 Calinou it uses Darwin 05:00 VanessaE I thought it was based thereon? 05:00 Calinou it is BSD-like, but not BSD 05:00 VanessaE oh ok 05:00 Calinou too bad OS X doesn't use linux 8) 05:01 Calinou we would have zero issues running MT on OS X then :p 05:01 OldCoder Not tested tonight after all. But there is a Mac OS X build. Probably no sound. 05:01 Calinou apart from gatekeeper 05:01 Calinou the one from minetest.net is very outdated, but playable 05:01 OldCoder Somebody else has a newer one 05:01 Calinou link? 05:01 OldCoder Checking 05:03 OldCoder Calinou, I thought somebody gave it to me tonight but grepping isn't finding it. I'll ask him if he comes back. 05:04 cornernote can a mod please delete this - http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3327 05:04 Calinou cornernote: deleted it 05:04 Calinou why? 05:04 cornernote i moved it 05:04 Calinou it was talking about api.minetest.net -- how did you get that domain, since c55 has minetest.net? :o 05:05 cornernote signup here with a free account - http://freedns.afraid.org 05:05 cornernote choose minetest.net as your parent domain 05:05 cornernote point the A record to your IP 05:05 cornernote c55 can choose to not accept it 05:06 cornernote but by default you can use it 05:06 cornernote i also did http://gamewiki.minetest.net 05:18 NakedFury that gamewiki and the corner note api is awesome 05:19 NakedFury they are for sane healthy people 05:19 cornernote thanks 05:19 cornernote i need people to help with code examples 05:19 cornernote if anyone is interested, please let me know 05:20 NakedFury you mean include basic examples like adding a new block? 05:20 cornernote if we have lots of examples, there will be a lot more, and better quality mods released 05:20 cornernote lemme show you 05:20 NakedFury or something more hard like the world edit stuff? 05:21 leo_rockw cornernote: do you speak C++? 05:21 cornernote this page has an example 05:21 cornernote its very simple, but still, an example 05:21 cornernote this page has no example 05:21 cornernote http://api.minetest.net/?r=method/view&name=minetest.setting_getbool 05:21 NakedFury lua examples 05:22 cornernote so for a new user, they dont really understand how to use it 05:22 cornernote leo_rockw .. i can read c++, and i can break it... but not so much good at writing it 05:22 leo_rockw cornernote: alright. 05:22 leo_rockw thanks for all the things you're doing. 05:23 cornernote welcome =) 05:23 cornernote im good at scripting (php/lua/etc), and logic puzzles 05:24 cornernote im also good at dba (mostly mysql) 05:24 cornernote i figure if we all do what we are good at, we can contribute more 05:24 leo_rockw I'm decent at scripting, but I hadn't used Lua before minetest. 05:24 leo_rockw I was trying to do exactly what you did with particles, but I had failed. 05:25 cornernote i used it a *tiny* bit.. in world of warcraft 05:25 cornernote but that was ages ago, i really didnt remember a lot 05:25 cornernote its really similar to javascript 05:25 cornernote and im pretty good with that 05:25 leo_rockw I usually use Python(2) 05:26 cornernote never used it 05:26 cornernote i think its more useful on linux 05:26 leo_rockw yes 05:26 cornernote but if i even need a shell script, i usually just do it in php using exec() where needed 05:26 cornernote not because its better, just because i know php better 05:26 cornernote even=ever 05:28 cornernote i was going to make a mods site 05:28 cornernote harvest all the mods from the forum with a script 05:28 cornernote i love building data harvesting scripts 05:28 leo_rockw I can read PHP and break it, but I've never actually written anything in it. 05:29 cornernote but someone is already doing a mods forum, and i didnt want to step on toes, and there is many other things to do (like the api docs) 05:29 cornernote i'll probably make the API docs site open source 05:29 cornernote its built with yii framework, so it will be well documented 05:31 leo_rockw unrelated, but I was looking at terasology the other day 05:31 leo_rockw it looks really pretty, but it was very heavy. 05:32 leo_rockw I just started my first real Minetest game ever (before I was just testing it). I was having fun... the simplemobs mod has some tough mobs. 05:32 leo_rockw I still have trouble with playing a game without a clear objective, though. 05:33 leo_rockw so I'll probably restart skyblock. 05:37 Calinou leo_rockw .. i can read c++, and i can break it... but not so much good at writing it 05:37 Calinou welcome to my club :D 05:37 leo_rockw I was looking at the code and I could read some of it. I'm kind of in that club as well... 05:37 * OldCoder will bbiab 05:37 leo_rockw I still want to make a left handed player o.o 05:38 Calinou possible: change wield item position and animations 05:39 Calinou left_handed_wield = false or true in minetest.conf 05:39 VanessaE bbl 05:39 leo_rockw and VanessaE mentioned female players. But that should be an avatar thing. 05:39 VanessaE if mikeonline/minetestmike/wtfever he uses for a nick next comes on while I'm out, please tell him to /msg me and leave his account open so I can respond. 05:40 VanessaE night all. 05:40 leo_rockw night 05:40 Calinou VanessaE: or use memoserv 05:40 Calinou night 05:58 OldCoder VanessaE, night 06:01 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, technic is updated and will be picked up when the worlds are restarted next 06:01 OldCoder RealBadAngel, ^ 06:01 RealBadAngel_ thx :) 06:26 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, clientmap.cpp has changed too much. The patch information in the post does not indicate the change in context. I can't proceed without more information. 06:27 RealBadAngel_ so you have to ask iqualfragile then 06:27 RealBadAngel_ or sfan5 06:27 OldCoder k thx 06:36 ecube who hilighted me 06:38 NakedFury many people hours ago 06:39 OldCoder Stopping U.S. servers briefly 06:39 ecube meh 06:44 OldCoder Servers restarted 06:44 ecube what servers 06:44 OldCoder Mine 06:44 OldCoder 12 of them 06:44 ecube :o 06:44 OldCoder You haven't seen the list? Hold on 06:45 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/ 06:45 OldCoder ecube, ^ 06:48 ecube nice. 06:48 OldCoder ty 06:48 ecube how did you get minetestserver to use 1 port 06:48 ecube i had to put the ports 11 apart 06:48 OldCoder It is a command line parameter 06:48 OldCoder It only needs one port 06:49 OldCoder Not sure about the issue you mentioned 06:49 OldCoder Works fine 06:50 OldCoder sfan5, hello 06:50 OldCoder sfan5, May I inquire regarding filter patch? 06:50 ecube hey sfan5 06:50 OldCoder buf->getMaterial().setFlag(video::EMF_BILINEAR_FILTER, true); 06:50 sfan5 OldCoder: yes 06:50 OldCoder buf->getMaterial().setFlag(video::EMF_ANISOTROPIC_FILTER, true); 06:50 OldCoder Those two lines 06:50 OldCoder Where would they go in context? They are from: 06:51 OldCoder http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2873 06:51 OldCoder But post just provides a line number 06:51 OldCoder Need a context patch 06:51 OldCoder 06:54 sfan5 OldCoder: http://pastebin.com/pCY5sF1X 06:54 OldCoder Reviewing 06:54 OldCoder All right. Thanks. Two more quick questions sfan5: 06:55 OldCoder (a) This applies to client executables, correct? So I can build but people will need to use modified clients to see changes 06:55 sfan5 (a) yes 06:55 OldCoder (b) Is it true that the bilinear filter produces poor results with default textures? 06:55 OldCoder 06:55 cornernote does minetest have twitter/facebook ? 06:55 OldCoder cornernote, I am Tweeting 06:55 OldCoder Server changes anyway 06:56 cornernote i want to link to it 06:56 OldCoder cornernote, My Tweets? They are 06:56 OldCoder @BoldCoder 06:56 cornernote to twitter.com/minetest 06:56 OldCoder Ah 06:57 sfan5 (b) yes 06:57 OldCoder sfan5, Do leave bilinear off perhaps? 06:57 OldCoder *So 06:57 OldCoder sfan5, I.e. should I just turn on anisotropic? 06:58 cornernote https://twitter.com/Minetest_c55 06:59 cornernote and facebook is - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Minetest-c55/154629281259953 07:00 cornernote oh, and google+ too - https://plus.google.com/116830764303517937720 07:22 OldCoder sfan5, I.e. should I just turn on anisotropic? 07:24 Calinou you'll have some lines between blocks 07:24 Calinou so, not using your driver control panel 07:24 Calinou use a mod 07:24 Calinou (a c++ one obviously) 07:24 OldCoder Calinou, speaking to me? O.K. 07:25 Calinou 3000 topics recently hit on MT forum... 07:32 OldCoder anunakki, hi 07:32 OldCoder anunakki, the Europe server is now located at: 07:32 OldCoder europe.minetest.org 07:33 OldCoder Real Bad Angel is building there 07:37 Mika_R oldcoder, europe server? 07:37 OldCoder Mika_R, yes 07:37 OldCoder europe.minetest.org port 30000 07:37 OldCoder Here is my page: 07:37 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/ 07:38 anunakki alrighty 07:38 anunakki sweet 07:38 OldCoder so far so good 07:38 OldCoder I will add another world on Monday or Tuesday 07:38 OldCoder Maybe a new Skyblock 07:40 OldCoder anunakki, if people join one of these needs to grant interact. You have the privs to do this. 07:40 OldCoder *one of us 07:40 anunakki alright 07:40 anunakki i must say, i hate the lil 65 watt chargers that come with hp laptops 07:40 Mika_R loaded 62% media 07:40 anunakki so far two have shit the bed on me 07:40 OldCoder Mika_R, it is slow because there is music now 07:41 Mika_R ok 07:41 OldCoder Mika_R, I have added music and sound effects 07:41 Mika_R ok, still considering getting higher connection 07:43 OldCoder Mika_R, you have interact 07:43 Mika_R oldcoder, sure there is need for that many mods? 07:43 OldCoder Mika_R, They have all been checked 07:43 OldCoder And carefully considered 07:44 OldCoder There is no significant problem with them AFAIK 07:44 OldCoder They were chosen by consensus 07:44 OldCoder Snow 07:44 OldCoder is the only one I think I am concerned about 07:44 Mika_R ok 07:45 OldCoder If you are seeing sound error messages those will be fixed eventually 07:48 Mika_R i couldn't pick flowers or jungle grass, reconnecting to see if i have them 07:48 RealBadAngel_ OldCoder, have you restarted the server? 07:48 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, No 07:49 OldCoder If it locked up 07:49 RealBadAngel_ hmm, cant rejoin now 07:49 OldCoder It's because the disk was slow due to my creating a swap file 07:49 OldCoder Hold on 07:49 OldCoder Wait 07:50 OldCoder I think the disk is flusing 07:50 OldCoder *flushing 07:50 OldCoder Hold on 07:50 OldCoder Yes 07:50 OldCoder Disk is flushing 07:51 OldCoder Excuse the issue 07:51 OldCoder Try now 07:53 RealBadAngel_ joining 07:55 OldCoder anunakki, You appear to be running Debian Squeeze. Does that sound right? 07:55 anunakki yes 07:55 RealBadAngel_ theres atllas heror 07:55 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, ? 07:55 RealBadAngel_ *error 07:55 OldCoder Yes 07:55 OldCoder That is a client side issue 07:55 OldCoder Happens everywhere ATM 07:55 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, functioning? 07:56 RealBadAngel_ looks ok 07:56 RealBadAngel_ just added setting to disable atlas 07:56 OldCoder k 07:56 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, what is the setting? 07:57 RealBadAngel_ enable_texture_atlas = false 07:57 RealBadAngel_ in minetest.conf 07:57 OldCoder RealBadAngel_, ty 07:58 OldCoder Backing up U.S. servers before sleeping 08:01 OldCoder should be started 08:07 OldCoder Zzz 08:44 cornernote API is updated - http://api.minetest.net/ 08:45 cornernote new theme 08:45 cornernote and added getting started guide 08:45 cornernote based on jeijas 09:58 CTMN Did anyone ever do a texture pack? 10:11 Phahrrgis When I connect to a server, is this a media check, or download? 10:30 cornernote has anyone ever played soldat? http://soldat.thd.vg/en/ 10:30 cornernote oh how i'd love a lua modding api for that game 12:19 NekoGloop good morning people who dont have anything better to do than lurk in some random IRC 12:33 NekoGloop how does one disable the frame rate cap entirely? 12:41 cornernote hi 12:41 * cornernote is people who dont have anything better to do than lurk in some random IRC 12:41 cornernote seen the api today ? 12:41 NekoGloop noi 12:42 NekoGloop no 12:42 cornernote goto www.minetest.net, then click API 12:42 cornernote sweet or what ?! =) 12:42 cornernote c55 put the link on the homepage 12:43 cornernote :D 12:43 NekoGloop shows that celeron is just being a dick and not talking here ^^ 12:43 cornernote i asked him to 12:43 cornernote talked to him in -dev room 12:43 cornernote but he didnt hesitate, did it immediately 12:43 cornernote which is really good 12:44 cornernote the reason i joined MT community was because you could mod it 12:44 cornernote i hope this api site attracts a lot more people like me 12:44 cornernote like us ! 12:44 cornernote this whole community is awesome 12:45 NekoGloop i like how the "groups" thing says "e.g. wool" even though wool isnt in a unique group :P 12:45 cornernote everyone does things to help 12:45 cornernote i'll change that 12:45 cornernote dye has a good example of a group 12:45 NekoGloop ANYWAY 12:46 NekoGloop HOW TEH FUCK DO I DISABLE THE FPS CAP 12:46 cornernote no idea 12:46 cornernote whats the cap ? 60 ? 12:46 NekoGloop yeah 12:47 cornernote and u need it higher ? 12:47 cornernote what are you trying to do? 12:48 cornernote u have some kind of super human vision ? 12:48 NekoGloop make minetes go faster? 12:48 cornernote faster than 60 frames per second ? 12:48 NekoGloop yes? 12:48 cornernote u cant see faster than that 12:48 NekoGloop yeah i can 12:49 NekoGloop if you're going to believe everything everyone says about the human vision, you are going to wind up with 6000000 different sources saying 6000000 different things 12:49 NekoGloop because every human is different. 12:50 cornernote im just reading, for my own interest - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate 12:50 cornernote maybe human eyes can see faster than 60fps, but i doubt you'd really notice it 12:50 cornernote but thats just me 12:51 NekoGloop minetest would notice 12:51 NekoGloop and go faster as a result 12:51 NekoGloop i dont want smoother graphics; i want more processing 13:52 cornernote NekoGloop - http://api.minetest.net/page/view/view/config 13:53 cornernote fps_max = 60 13:55 cornernote oh, he quitted 14:18 Mikeonline hi 14:19 cornernote hi 14:34 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 14:37 jin_xi Hi Adam! 14:39 iqualfragile pilzadam: oldcoder made a world just for you 14:39 PilzAdam yay 14:40 iqualfragile i told him wich mods to use 14:41 iqualfragile i excluded carts, er hatte keine konzentration übrig um map einzusetzen, bei ambience hab ich neucromancers version empfohlen, obwol das git-repos so aussieht als hätte er noch nie eine versionsverwaltung genutzt ist es doch weiter feingetunt 14:42 PilzAdam i dont recommend ambience 14:42 PilzAdam too long load times 14:42 PilzAdam carts is realy buggy 14:42 PilzAdam i dont use it 14:44 iqualfragile thats why i told him not to include 14:44 iqualfragile carts 14:44 PilzAdam yep 14:44 iqualfragile but ambience is realy great once you have loaded it and you only have to load it once 14:45 OldCoder Hi 14:45 PilzAdam its slow on every startup 14:45 OldCoder Who rang? 14:45 PilzAdam OldCoder, hi 14:45 OldCoder Not slow for me 14:45 OldCoder How about the rest of you? 14:45 OldCoder PilzAdam, I have omitted TNT ATM because it needs fire 14:45 OldCoder Are you able to produce a version which does not require this? 14:46 PilzAdam yep 14:46 OldCoder If you are willing to do so, proceed 14:46 OldCoder Regardless, the world is there and seems to work fine 14:46 OldCoder minetest.org port 30010 14:46 OldCoder If I recall correctly 14:46 iqualfragile did the port change? 14:46 OldCoder Checking 14:46 OldCoder No 14:47 OldCoder that was from memory; hold on 14:47 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/ 14:47 OldCoder minetest.org port 30010 14:47 OldCoder is correct 14:47 iqualfragile ok, i was to tired to try it out yesterday 14:47 OldCoder europe.minetest.org Port 30000 14:48 OldCoder is also there for our Europe friends; that is a general world 14:48 PilzAdam OldCoder, http://ompldr.org/vZnN1Yg/tnt.zip 14:48 PilzAdam ^ without fire 14:48 OldCoder PilzAdam, ty. Downloading 14:48 PilzAdam (untested) 14:49 iqualfragile so there is minetest.com. meinetest.net. and minetest.org. 14:49 OldCoder Then we shall test it 14:49 OldCoder iqualfragile, Yes 14:49 OldCoder <--- minetest.org 14:49 iqualfragile i think you should point out that your site is not the official one 14:49 OldCoder Point out where? 14:49 OldCoder iqualfragile, Done 14:50 OldCoder Press Reload 14:50 OldCoder Jordach, there is a Europe server now 14:50 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/ 14:50 OldCoder Also music 14:50 PilzAdam +1 for Europe 14:50 OldCoder And a PilzAdam world 14:50 thexyz iqualfragile: minetest.ru too ^^ 14:50 iqualfragile maybee link to the official site from your site? you could use the word official for that 14:50 OldCoder Sure 14:51 OldCoder ATM I am busy with PilzAdam mod 14:51 PilzAdam :D 14:51 iqualfragile hey, they have jabber-chatrooms in russia 14:51 OldCoder neighbors = {"fire:basic_flame"}, 14:51 OldCoder PilzAdam, should that line be there? 14:51 iqualfragile yes 14:52 PilzAdam yep 14:52 iqualfragile otherwise it would ignite allways 14:52 OldCoder All right 14:52 OldCoder But there is no fire 14:52 OldCoder Is it still O.K. ? 14:52 PilzAdam i know 14:52 PilzAdam its useless but not a bug 14:52 iqualfragile thats bad luck :D 14:52 OldCoder All right 14:52 iqualfragile you can change it to another block 14:52 OldCoder Doesn't matter 14:52 iqualfragile than that one will ignite tnt 14:52 PilzAdam (you can remove the whole abm but that is not very important) 14:55 OldCoder Shutting servers down to update PilzAdam world 14:57 OldCoder tnt/init.lua:9: unexpected symbol near '#' 14:57 iqualfragile just remove the whole abm 14:57 PilzAdam oooops, remove the # 14:57 PilzAdam (typo) 14:57 OldCoder Proceeding 14:58 iqualfragile but on the other hand tnt is pointless without boom 14:58 OldCoder Should I simply omit it? 14:58 PilzAdam just remove the # 14:58 PilzAdam iqualfragile, there is boom 14:58 PilzAdam just the flammable nodes dont turn into fire 14:59 OldCoder PilzAdam, I see you have your own fire 14:59 OldCoder Is it any safer than the usual fire? 14:59 PilzAdam nope 14:59 cornernote safer lol 14:59 OldCoder k 14:59 PilzAdam just better looking 14:59 OldCoder For the framework 14:59 OldCoder 14:59 OldCoder Proceed 14:59 PilzAdam cornernote, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=46664#p46664 14:59 OldCoder Test PilzAdam world and TNT 15:00 cornernote if you have tnt, you might as well have fire 15:00 cornernote griefers can use either 15:00 OldCoder That is not the issue 15:00 OldCoder the issue is that fire crashes the server 15:00 cornernote oh 15:00 OldCoder <--- Wants nice stable servers 15:01 cornernote +1 for that 15:01 OldCoder Yes 15:01 PilzAdam my fire doesnt crashe the server (i think) 15:01 PilzAdam what exactly crashes the server? 15:01 OldCoder PilzAdam, Could add it later then. Let's test the current configuration. 15:01 PilzAdam k 15:01 OldCoder PilzAdam, This was reported to me 15:01 cornernote if any mod crashes the server, let me know the dump and i'll try to fix it 15:01 OldCoder Sure 15:01 OldCoder One step at a time 15:01 OldCoder We have 12 worlds now 15:01 cornernote lol 15:01 OldCoder Kick the hell out of them and see what breaks 15:02 OldCoder Start with PilzAdam world; it is waiting to play 15:02 PilzAdam connecting... 15:02 Jordach PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=46626#p46626 15:02 OldCoder Connecting myself 15:02 PilzAdam Jordach, thx 15:03 PilzAdam but have a bluutooth gamepad :-( 15:03 Jordach PilzAdam, joy2key is windows 15:03 PilzAdam OldCoder, 2% Media -> ambience is too havy 15:03 cornernote in the wiimote video he mentions one thats free 15:03 OldCoder PilzAdam, but it is fast after first time 15:03 FreeFull PilzAdam: There is free software that does similar stuff 15:03 OldCoder PilzAdam, iqualfragile recommended it and people like it 15:03 FreeFull Autohotkey is the most well-known one and also the most flexible 15:04 cornernote i wouldnt mind trying a wiimote for minetest 15:04 Jordach i have a general minetest website bug 15:04 cornernote if it didnt look so complicated to setup 15:04 OldCoder PilzAdam, indicate when in 15:04 PilzAdam OldCoder, 3% 15:04 OldCoder PilzAdam, slower than usual 15:04 OldCoder It is not that slow for most people 15:04 Jordach OldCoder, you might have those files in your minetest cache already 15:04 PilzAdam im in germany 15:04 OldCoder You know; this is *your* mod :P plus Neuromancer 15:05 OldCoder Jordach, no; I mean, the first timee 15:05 OldCoder *time 15:05 OldCoder Jordach, issue is that he is in Europe 15:05 PilzAdam i get 12KB/s to your server :( 15:05 OldCoder I will create more Europe worlds if possible 15:05 OldCoder Oh my 15:05 * PilzAdam breaks 15:05 OldCoder PilzAdam, I could omit music from your world 15:05 PilzAdam yep 15:06 iqualfragile but… music! 15:06 PilzAdam but... heavy! 15:06 OldCoder PilzAdam, give it a chance 15:06 OldCoder Maybe half an hour to an hour to load 15:06 OldCoder Then fast 15:06 PilzAdam nope, sry 15:06 OldCoder I will be here 15:06 OldCoder No? 15:06 iqualfragile but… it adapts to the enverorment 15:06 OldCoder This is ironic. He created the mod. 15:06 PilzAdam kinda 15:07 OldCoder Will somebody else test his world for him? 15:07 iqualfragile i will 15:07 OldCoder k 15:07 OldCoder PilzAdam, I will run more Europe servers when I can 15:07 OldCoder The current one is low RAM and limited I think to one world 15:07 PilzAdam i dont play on server very much 15:07 OldCoder All right 15:07 OldCoder Then you will simply hear of others playing your world 15:08 PilzAdam you make it popular, thx 15:09 OldCoder k 15:09 iqualfragile well… thats interesting: i allready have sond but it says 0% on media 15:09 PilzAdam its a cache: it downloads things more than 1 time sometimes 15:09 OldCoder Mod time should be same on server 15:10 iqualfragile joined 15:10 OldCoder Handle or nick? 15:10 OldCoder iqualfragile, if he won't play here should I op you instead? 15:10 iqualfragile if you want to 15:10 iqualfragile fuck, my space key broke 15:11 OldCoder Hmm 15:11 iqualfragile i need to use my right thumb… 15:11 Jordach iqualfragile - how come you make spaces in irc then? 15:11 OldCoder Hmm. It's not responding. Restarting. 15:11 iqualfragile lets repeat: i need to use my right thumb 15:12 iqualfragile weey, godlike powers! 15:12 iqualfragile but i think those are just too many worlds 15:12 iqualfragile there are not that many players 15:12 iqualfragile so if there are that much worlds they fragment 15:13 OldCoder iqualfragile, Consider this though: 15:13 OldCoder 1. Skyblock is unique 15:13 OldCoder 2. Jordach and PilzAdam want their own games 15:13 OldCoder 3. So does M13 15:13 OldCoder 4. There are nice worlds already existing and I want them to live on. Check out some of the worlds already created. 15:13 OldCoder 15:14 OldCoder These points are valid 15:14 OldCoder Not to mention... 15:14 OldCoder 5. There is a need for different servers in different countries 15:14 OldCoder 6. I am running one open world to encourage people to try the game. This world must obviously be separate. 15:14 OldCoder 15:15 OldCoder Demonstrate the flaws in my logic 15:15 OldCoder BTW You will need to grant interact for new people in PilzAdam world 15:15 OldCoder 15:16 iqualfragile there are none, (well, im not shure about pilzadam realy wanting an own world) but i think you need to consider the fragmentation issue 15:16 * OldCoder shrugs 15:16 OldCoder Reconcile that 15:16 OldCoder with the above and I will be pleased to consider it 15:16 OldCoder <--- very literal 15:16 OldCoder By now some of you understand what I am 15:16 OldCoder To communicate with me you must be specific and literal 15:16 OldCoder If the points are not reconciled 15:16 OldCoder They do not make sense to me 15:16 OldCoder 15:18 OldCoder iqualfragile, indicate if the world appears to work 15:18 iqualfragile it works 15:18 * OldCoder is pleased 15:18 iqualfragile and the animated water looks great, i need to use that on my own server 15:18 * PilzAdam thinks about Bromthymolblau if he hears "indicate" 15:19 iqualfragile ich auch immer 15:19 iqualfragile hmm… well, i guess it would be good to change a variable inside particles/init.lua 15:19 PilzAdam what particles? 15:19 iqualfragile there are ~25 particles spawned on default 15:20 iqualfragile your particles 15:20 PilzAdam ive set it to math.random(7, 9) 15:20 iqualfragile those are just too many for that bandwidth 15:20 iqualfragile it looks like a lot more 15:20 PilzAdam cornernote, set the default # of particles to math.random(7, 9) 15:20 OldCoder Checking the code 15:22 iqualfragile and there is a bug in minetests landscape-generation 15:22 Jordach cornernote, present? 15:22 OldCoder Where is this line? 15:22 OldCoder iqualfragile, PilzAdam ^ 15:22 iqualfragile uh, one moment, im gona check 15:22 PilzAdam OldCoder, https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-particles/blob/master/particles/init.lua#L71 15:23 PilzAdam ^ the "32" 15:23 OldCoder Reviewing 15:23 PilzAdam set it to math.random(7, 9) 15:23 iqualfragile for i=1,math.random(7, 9) do 15:23 PilzAdam yep 15:23 OldCoder PilzAdam, can you give context? 15:23 OldCoder I am in the editor 15:23 OldCoder Show the line 15:23 PilzAdam for i=1,math.random(7, 9) do 15:24 PilzAdam ^ line 71 15:24 OldCoder No; the line to change 15:24 OldCoder Line 71 does not appear right 15:24 Jordach OldCoder. line 71 15:24 OldCoder I am in the editor 15:24 OldCoder I see... 15:24 OldCoder interval = 1, 15:24 OldCoder That does not seem right 15:24 OldCoder Please provide a context patch 15:25 iqualfragile -- create this many particles for i=1,32 do 15:25 PilzAdam wait a sec. 15:25 OldCoder https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest-particles/zipball/master 15:25 OldCoder I am using that 15:25 OldCoder The lines do not match 15:26 PilzAdam OldCoder, https://gist.github.com/3853104 15:26 OldCoder Not cornernote version but PilzAdam version 15:26 OldCoder Reviewing 15:26 PilzAdam my version is old 15:26 OldCoder PilzAdam, iqualfragile can somebody simply give me a download link? 15:26 OldCoder I am pleased to help but I have IRL work today 15:26 PilzAdam wait 15:27 PilzAdam http://ompldr.org/vZnN1eA/particles.zip 15:27 OldCoder Reviewing 15:27 PilzAdam ^ thats the version I use 15:27 OldCoder Not your own, then 15:27 OldCoder Hold on 15:28 * PilzAdam holds on 15:28 OldCoder Not long 15:31 OldCoder iqualfragile, world will shut down briefly 15:31 OldCoder Restarting servers to update PilzAdam world 15:31 iqualfragile ok 15:31 OldCoder When this is done client must be restarted 15:31 OldCoder Calinou, wb 15:32 OldCoder servers reloaded 15:32 OldCoder iqualfragile, See if particles are right now 15:32 PilzAdam Lua particles are generally slow 15:32 PilzAdam should be done in c++ 15:32 OldCoder Yes 15:33 Calinou so that they can be tweaked by client, too :P 15:33 PilzAdam hi Calinou 15:33 Calinou they also need to be synced to other clients (todo: sync mining/building sounds too :P) 15:33 Calinou only walking sounds are played for other players right now 15:33 PilzAdam any c++ coder here? 15:34 iqualfragile its better now but still lags a bit, reduce the number even further 15:34 OldCoder iqualfragile, To what? 15:35 iqualfragile the half? 15:35 Jordach Calinou, make a custom sound table 15:35 Calinou syncing build/mine sounds should be done in C++ 15:35 Calinou like walking 15:35 * PilzAdam will code for 8 hrs. 35 sec. 15:35 PilzAdam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTcqe062dxc&feature=related 15:35 OldCoder iqualfragile, indicate line 15:36 PilzAdam Bromthymolblau 15:36 iqualfragile the same you changed the last time 15:36 OldCoder for i=1,math.random(7,9) do 15:36 OldCoder I did not change it 15:36 iqualfragile for i=1,math.random(3,5) do 15:36 OldCoder Do you wish 2,3 there? or 3,4 ? 15:36 OldCoder 3,5 ? 15:36 OldCoder Or 3,4 ? 15:36 iqualfragile 34 15:36 OldCoder k 15:37 iqualfragile less lag is allways better 15:37 PilzAdam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromothymol_blue 15:37 iqualfragile :-) 15:37 OldCoder Restarting servers again 15:38 OldCoder Try it now 15:54 iqualfragile i think its good now 15:55 Calinou http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Snapshot says: 15:55 Calinou Added a way to teleport a player relative to their current coordinates.[2] 15:55 Calinou Use ~ to represent current position and then + or -. 15:55 Calinou For example, "/tp (player) ~+500 ~-5 6.13" teleports adds +500x, -5y, and moves the player to 6.13z. 15:55 Calinou we should have that in minetest :P 16:01 OldCoder iqualfragile, glad to hear it 16:04 OldCoder NakedFury, wb 16:04 NakedFury hi 16:11 * Jordach has a sore throat 16:15 rubenwardy it is very intresting looking at the visitor stats for my site 16:17 iqualfragile 80% linux, 5% bsd? 16:17 Jordach rubenwardy ?? 16:19 Jordach lol, linux 16:21 rubenwardy 90% windows, 10% linux 16:21 Jordach lol 16:24 rubenwardy Spread of visiters: http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/export.png 16:24 VanessaE hi all 16:26 OldCoder VanessaE, Hello 16:27 rubenwardy 50% use firefox, 40% use Safari/Chrome and 10% use Internet Explorer 16:27 rubenwardy Hi VanessaE 16:28 VanessaE hey ruben, oldcoder, et.al 16:30 Jordach VanessaE, a wild conversion appeared: http://i.imgur.com/pvAnd.png 16:31 VanessaE what is this? 16:31 Jordach check the title bar 16:31 VanessaE oh. 16:31 VanessaE zzz 16:31 VanessaE :) 16:32 Jordach VanessaE, two words: no lag 16:34 Jordach VanessaE. that is no 8px pack, thats a 16x (since 8px go real weird with atlases) 16:34 Jordach also http://i.imgur.com/lBjR9.png 16:34 Jordach DAT RAM 16:35 Calinou there is no texture atlas in minecraft 16:36 VanessaE texture atlas sucks anyway 16:36 VanessaE either it should just disable when it can't be used (e.g. full) or whatever makes it bug out should be fixed 16:37 OldCoder Hi 16:39 rubenwardy (5:35:12 PM) Jordach: also http://i.imgur.com/lBjR9.png 16:39 rubenwardy Is that a framerate of 2? 16:49 VanessaE rubenwardy: (128 fps, ...) at the top. 16:52 Jordach VanessaE, compare that to 30 in minetest without a limiter 16:52 VanessaE yup I know 16:52 VanessaE sad. 16:52 VanessaE what happened? 16:52 Jordach dunno 16:53 Jordach my onboard SiS PoS can do minetest at 60fps 16:53 Jordach but then again the server instance lags 16:53 Jordach (minecraft is instant..) 16:53 VanessaE I mean even my super-fast video card can't sustain 60 fps in minetest - with 16px textures. 16:53 Jordach its one "huge" array with numbers 16:53 Jordach VanessaE, giveme two days and your HDX will be in MC 16:54 VanessaE go for it. it's GFDL (WTFPL if you don't care ;) ) 16:54 VanessaE I'm curious to know how minecraft would handle HDX 16:54 Jordach VanessaE, on the best settings, i think you'll get about 500fps 16:55 Jordach trust me; i tried a 128px terrain file; everything went mental, 16px (use layer scaling) works fine 17:13 rubenwardy back 17:15 OldCoder Fun issue. RealBadAngel_ has an avatar in MT that shows up as a person and not a specter. He is not sure where the person comes from. Presumably a client side mod. Does anybody know? 17:16 Jordach OldCoder, is technic installed? 17:16 OldCoder Jordach, Yes 17:16 OldCoder On almost all the worlds 17:16 Jordach check its texture files 17:16 VanessaE OldCoder: upgrade your copy of flowers plz 17:16 OldCoder VanessaE, yes I was just doing that 17:16 OldCoder Jordach, how is the person activated? 17:16 VanessaE I just pushed an update to balance out the flower spawn rates. they were just too unbalanced to make the damn things useful. 17:16 OldCoder He is the only player who seems to have it 17:16 Jordach LUA Magix 17:16 OldCoder Jordach, How do I give people avatars to others? 17:17 VanessaE the person you talk about? 17:17 Jordach ...use the code from technic? 17:17 VanessaE that's a texture pack add-on 17:17 VanessaE player.png and player_back.png I think, or something like that 17:17 OldCoder How do I give people avatars to others? Is this possible? 17:17 OldCoder All right 17:17 VanessaE a server can push those out with its standard textures 17:17 VanessaE or the user can override them 17:17 OldCoder Does anybody have a link? 17:18 VanessaE when I'm on redcrab's server, they use this little...hobbit sorta guy, but the rest of my textures are in place as usual 17:18 VanessaE you can't give each person their own avatar though. 17:18 OldCoder Right 17:18 OldCoder Not yet anyway 17:19 VanessaE another lame-ass decision by c55 17:20 VanessaE I'm sorry, did I say that out loud? :-) 17:20 OldCoder :-) 17:21 OldCoder Flowers installed and will be picked up on next server restart. Does anybody have a link for textures containing a person image set? 17:22 mitori hi 17:22 mitori :) 17:22 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1020 17:22 OldCoder mitori, Hello 17:22 VanessaE here's one 17:22 OldCoder Reviewing 17:22 VanessaE there's a couple of others there too 17:23 VanessaE the one in minetoon is nice: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=402 17:23 OldCoder Reviewing 17:23 mitori is anyone holding a stable MT fork. 17:23 OldCoder Define stable 17:23 mitori uhmm 17:23 VanessaE (page 2, post #39) 17:24 mitori stable in development process 17:24 OldCoder I have cloned the clone 17:24 OldCoder *code 17:24 OldCoder Is it a fork? Hard to say 17:24 OldCoder PilzAdam is forking minetest_game 17:24 mitori which is regularily updatred 17:24 OldCoder We will see 17:24 mitori i mean the core 17:24 OldCoder Yes 17:25 mitori there was a quite well-done fork by darkrose 17:25 mitori but she doesn't seem to update it 17:25 OldCoder mitori, fork of core will only work if it is a group effort 17:26 mitori well, of course 17:26 * PilzAdam is back 17:26 mitori more appropriate way of asking the question is 17:26 mitori is mt being developed by anyone 17:27 mitori or in fits and starts by celeron 17:27 mitori or *only* in...* 17:27 PilzAdam VanessaE, youre here? 17:27 VanessaE yes 17:27 PilzAdam font? 17:27 VanessaE not yet, been too busy 17:27 VanessaE I may not be able to get to it for a while 17:27 OldCoder VanessaE, the minetoon one is funny 17:28 OldCoder We'll try it 17:28 PilzAdam RealBadAngel_, youre here? 17:28 mitori is MT being developed by anyone (community) or is it only celeron who makes significant changes. 17:28 OldCoder VanessaE, was this drawn by Gambit? 17:28 VanessaE I think so 17:29 OldCoder VanessaE, It would be great for different people to get different avatars 17:29 Mika_R hi 17:30 OldCoder Mika_R, hi 17:30 NakedFury I would like that too. a unique avatar to each player 17:30 NakedFury ohh and to see what another player is holding at the moment 17:30 OldCoder VanessaE, is there a back version of the oekki1 17:30 OldCoder I don't see that 17:31 PilzAdam you mean reimplement the orkki? 17:31 VanessaE well on that page, I guess not, but I'd think that would be easy enough to make 17:31 PilzAdam *oerkki 17:31 VanessaE PilzAdam: I think he means back vs. front side 17:31 OldCoder PilzAdam, there is a front side of a new version but no back side 17:31 PilzAdam ahhh 17:33 PilzAdam not me... 17:33 PilzAdam ^ OWNSyouAll 17:35 OldCoder Gambit's player png is much larger than the standard player png. Do I need to resize it or will the engine do this? 17:35 VanessaE no, use it as-is 17:36 VanessaE the engine will scale it to 1.6m high 17:36 OldCoder And here's an interesting question. Skyblock includes an alternate player. But I've never seen it. How is it activated? 17:36 VanessaE but, 17:36 OldCoder Go on 17:36 VanessaE bear in mind that it's a good idea to use lower-resolution players if the server uses low-res textures, 17:36 OldCoder And? Specific changes? 17:37 VanessaE so you might want to scal them to say 64 px wide (keep the same aspect ratio) 17:37 OldCoder Could do 17:37 OldCoder Will try the default first; it's quick 17:37 OldCoder And here's an interesting question. Skyblock includes an alternate player. But I've never seen it. How is it activated? 17:38 VanessaE I'm not sure - put it in whatever folder the server's textures go in 17:38 PilzAdam theres many activity today 17:38 VanessaE I've never messed with server-side textures 17:39 OWNSyouAll PilzAdam: ? 17:39 PilzAdam in the IRC 17:40 PilzAdam OWNSyouAll, you own all, but me! 17:40 OWNSyouAll PilzAdam: lol 17:40 OWNSyouAll im still having some issues with terrain generation 17:40 PilzAdam go on 17:40 OWNSyouAll if i set a minimum ore height of above 200 17:40 OWNSyouAll the game crashes 17:40 PilzAdam code? 17:41 OWNSyouAll using the generate_ore in mapgen.lua 17:41 rubenwardy how far in decimals can nodebox go? 17:41 OWNSyouAll from the default game 17:41 rubenwardy ie: 0.000x 17:41 OWNSyouAll generate_ore("mymod:cloud_block", "air", minp, maxp, blockseed+305, 1/10, 10, 20, 50, 128) 17:41 OWNSyouAll crashes it 17:42 OWNSyouAll wait no 17:42 OWNSyouAll sorry wrong code 17:42 PilzAdam rubenwardy, search the limits of lua float with google 17:42 PilzAdam OWNSyouAll, clouds? https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/clouds/init.lua 17:42 rubenwardy so the engine supports as far as a float goes? that is 7 values, wow 17:42 OWNSyouAll PilzAdam: im trying to add a heaven and hell to minetest 17:43 PilzAdam rubenwardy, you started working on the c++ code? 17:44 rubenwardy nope, nodebox editor. The engine code is similar to the enigma machine, in my opinion, no idea where to start working 17:45 rubenwardy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine 17:45 Jordach ^ plain english: horrid things 17:45 PilzAdam i know what the enigma is; im german ;-) 17:48 PilzAdam VanessaE, what do you think about creating a new minetest_game that is completly WTFPL? 17:48 VanessaE good idea but impossible if you start with the existing code 17:48 Jordach PilzAdam means remake it 17:48 PilzAdam yep 17:48 VanessaE if you were to rewrite the whole thing, sure 17:48 VanessaE I like the idea. 17:48 VanessaE anyway, bbl. 17:52 OWNSyouAll PilzAdam: http://pastebin.com/e0juHH5e 17:53 OldCoder Restarting servers to add some changes 17:53 PilzAdam OWNSyouAll, you have to put it into register_on_genrated 17:53 PilzAdam see mapgen.lua 17:54 OWNSyouAll PilzAdam: ya i do here ill just post the whole file 17:54 OldCoder Somebody join one of the U.S. worlds please; any world 17:55 OWNSyouAll PilzAdam: http://pastebin.com/JBmQ08Eu 17:55 OldCoder I need to see if I just broke players 17:55 OldCoder ah 17:55 OldCoder khonkhortisan, ty 17:55 OldCoder Checking you now 17:57 PilzAdam OWNSyouAll, is_ground_content has no effect; you can delete it 17:59 PilzAdam OWNSyouAll, what is the exact crash message? 18:00 jin_xi OldCoder: tried to join 30007, but media dl is just too long (also stuff before is slow) 18:00 OWNSyouAll PilzAdam: its on the bottom of http://pastebin.com/e0juHH5e 18:00 OldCoder jin_xi, media load is one-time only 18:00 OldCoder jin_xi, iqualfragile suggested I add music and sound effects 18:00 OldCoder jin_xi, Try it 18:00 OldCoder jin_xi, what country are you in? 18:00 OldCoder jin_xi, there is a Europe server now 18:01 jin_xi umm, i was on there yesterday... took forever. it took ages again today 18:01 jin_xi im in europe too 18:01 OldCoder jin_xi, try this server: 18:01 OldCoder europe.minetest.org port 30000 18:01 OldCoder see if it helps 18:02 OldCoder jin_xi, and note that media will be faster on subsequent loads 18:02 jin_xi well faster is still very long :( 18:02 jin_xi but its better on europe 18:02 PilzAdam OWNSyouAll, i nearly got it... 18:03 jin_xi but not much 18:03 OWNSyouAll PilzAdam: what you mean 18:03 PilzAdam wait a sec. 18:03 OldCoder jin_xi, I mean... After you are fully loaded it should not reload the music often 18:04 PilzAdam OWNSyouAll, the vertical chunk size is bigger than the mapblock 18:04 PilzAdam decrease the chunk size 18:05 PilzAdam gtg 18:05 PilzAdam bye 18:07 OWNSyouAll woot it works 18:07 OWNSyouAll aww he left 18:10 OldCoder Restarting worlds to tweak player images. khonkhortisan sorry for interruption. 18:10 jin_xi ok, once im on it seems really nice, OldCoder 18:10 OldCoder k 18:11 khonkhortisan there should be a way to hot-swap player images 18:11 OldCoder U.S. worlds restarted 18:11 OldCoder khonkhortisan, Yes 18:11 OldCoder They are just textures 18:11 OldCoder But one step at a time 18:12 OldCoder khonkhortisan, If you'll rejoin I'll stop work for now 18:12 OldCoder assuming the players are still functioning 18:12 OldCoder khonkhortisan, Willing to join one more time? 18:13 khonkhortisan I think it fails if the server starts after I try to join 18:14 OldCoder khonkhortisan, If you are in when server cycles you must exit and restart 18:14 OldCoder Sorry but I don't know of a cleaner way 18:16 OldCoder New player image is sharper now 18:16 OldCoder I'll fix the colors or contrast later 18:16 OldCoder Yes; people definitely need their own avatars 18:17 OldCoder I could probably add that 18:19 OWNSyouAll is there a way to generate a map to say like 1000 blocks out? 18:25 Jordach OWNSyouAll, nope. 18:27 Jordach cornernote, The server at api.minetest.net can't be found, because the DNS lookup failed. 18:27 rubenwardy i can see it 18:29 Jordach rubenwardy, we have the same isp 18:29 khonkhortisan /spawnentity rat gives me a purple square 18:30 rubenwardy i can still go to http://api.minetest.net/ 18:31 khonkhortisan I accidentally picked up someone else's money and it won't stay dropped 18:33 rubenwardy you will have to keep it then 18:33 * Jordach wants the website to look somewhat nicer 18:34 Jordach since the api page is "insanely" better looking 18:34 khonkhortisan I had to right-click while wielding, instead of dragging it out of the inventory 18:36 khonkhortisan Is there any mod that does ocean tide? 18:39 khonkhortisan OldCoder, redwater and mosswater don't flow, nor can they be bucketed. 18:39 OldCoder Hi 18:39 khonkhortisan hello 18:39 OldCoder khonkhortisan, mention that to Octupus and NakedRage 18:48 * OldCoder is resting for a while 19:16 iqualfragile wow 19:16 iqualfragile that kindof shocked me 19:16 iqualfragile how old is api.minetest.net? 19:17 Jordach now very 19:17 Jordach not very 19:17 iqualfragile i just had no clue it existed 19:25 khonkhortisan google doesn't even know about it 19:26 NakedFury cornernot released it yesterday I think 19:26 Jordach NakedFury he did 19:26 khonkhortisan it needs a little more padding between the top bar and the page 19:30 iqualfragile who is responsible for http://minetest.com/ 19:32 khonkhortisan how do I edit api.minetest.net instead of commenting on it? 19:33 ProNinjaPants Anyone know a good server? 19:36 Jordach khonkhortisan, you can't 19:36 iqualfragile well, i guess oldcoder has *some* 19:37 khonkhortisan develan.com:30001 :P 19:37 khonkhortisan whoops 30002 19:40 ProNinjaPants Who is online khinkhortisan? 19:40 ProNinjaPants *khonkhortisan 19:44 iqualfragile no patience anymore… 19:50 envoyxiphos Hey Guys! 19:51 envoyxiphos Hey. 19:51 bulletrulz sup 19:51 bulletrulz anyone know 19:51 envoyxiphos Y did yu join? 19:51 bulletrulz a fedora version of minetest 19:51 envoyxiphos Nope. But I have a hamachi hosted server! ^^ 19:52 khonkhortisan I compiled on suse, so I'm sure it's possible 19:52 envoyxiphos Khonk want to connect to my hamachi server I havent had many people on And I want a stable server 19:53 khonkhortisan where? 19:53 envoyxiphos Hamachi Network: envoyxiphos 19:53 envoyxiphos Minetest address: 5.20.21.29 19:54 envoyxiphos Minetest Port: 30000 19:54 envoyxiphos There. ^^ 19:55 bulletrulz khonkhortisan: hmm 19:55 * khonkhortisan doesn't have hamachi yet 19:56 envoyxiphos Oh Download it then I will be waiting ^-^ 19:56 * bulletrulz uses fedora 17 19:56 khonkhortisan does it work on non-windows? 19:56 envoyxiphos Yeah it does. 19:57 bulletrulz khonkhortisan: dl haguchi gui for hamichi for linux 19:58 khonkhortisan Do I need an account? 19:58 envoyxiphos Nope. 19:59 envoyxiphos Lol. fedora 17... 20:00 bulletrulz so is there any .rpm for fedora linux 20:01 khonkhortisan trying quamachi... 20:01 OldCoder Back 20:01 bulletrulz oh quamachi 20:01 envoyxiphos Try The Ubuntu version. 20:02 * khonkhortisan needed PyQt4 20:02 OldCoder envoyxiphos, Did you want interact on world 30004 ? 20:03 envoyxiphos Yeah On Develan? 20:04 OldCoder envoyxiphos, the server is now minetest.org. Adding you now. 20:05 envoyxiphos @OldCoder Why is your name red? 20:05 OldCoder envoyxiphos, Is it? 20:05 OldCoder I do not know 20:05 khonkhortisan probably because he said envoyxiphos 20:05 envoyxiphos Yes. 20:05 OldCoder Yes 20:06 envoyxiphos Now it isnt 20:06 envoyxiphos OH. 20:06 OldCoder envoyxiphos, you have interact 20:06 envoyxiphos Okay I feel dumb 20:06 envoyxiphos @OldCoder I am jake's/LAD'S/captainfap's friend may I be an admin? 20:09 envoyxiphos khonk you gonna get on my hamachi server? 20:10 Jordach envoyxiphos, this is not minecraft 20:10 envoyxiphos @Jordach Ik. 20:10 envoyxiphos @Jordach why would you mention that? 20:12 envoyxiphos Jordach How is your server going? 20:12 Jordach since every minecraft player says that 20:12 Jordach and its offline 20:12 Jordach probably permanently to finish my 8px texture pack 20:13 envoyxiphos Oh. ^^ 20:13 envoyxiphos Jordach What are the servs you go on the most nowadays? 20:13 envoyxiphos servers* 20:13 Jordach envoyxiphos, its called 127.0.0.1 : 30011 20:13 OldCoder envoyxiphos, for world 30004 ? That is Octupus world though LAD is part of the team 20:14 OldCoder envoyxiphos, I am discouraging them from handing out admin too easily. Join and see how things go. 20:14 OldCoder envoyxiphos, LAD runs world 30006. Join there now and let me give you interact there as well. 20:14 envoyxiphos Yeah I know OldCoder. I Have been admins on many successful servers. Includings all of M13's servers that he has ever made :P 20:15 OldCoder envoyxiphos, Very well 20:15 OldCoder envoyxiphos, speak to those two; in the end, the decision is theres. Shall I give you interact on LAD's server? 20:15 envoyxiphos Yay! ^^ OldCoder 20:15 OldCoder *theirs 20:15 envoyxiphos Oh Octopus and LAD? 20:16 OldCoder Octupus has 30004 and LAD is 30006 20:16 Jordach night all 20:16 envoyxiphos Why are you the middle man that hosts them? 20:16 envoyxiphos Night Jordach 20:16 Jordach Zzzzzzzzzz.............oldcoder is awesome...thats why :P 20:17 envoyxiphos OldCoder 20:17 OldCoder envoyxiphos, Middle Man? 20:17 OldCoder :P 20:17 OldCoder Huh 20:17 OldCoder Your question is not entirely clear 20:17 envoyxiphos :P Yeah. Why are you hosting the servs? 20:17 * OldCoder considers 20:17 OldCoder Why not? 20:17 OldCoder 20:18 envoyxiphos 20:18 envoyxiphos Why? 20:18 envoyxiphos 20:18 * OldCoder writes 20:18 envoyxiphos *Envoy Doesnt Know How To Do That* 20:19 OldCoder ? 20:19 OldCoder Do what? 20:19 * OldCoder pauses 20:19 OldCoder What is it you don't know how to do? 20:20 envoyxiphos * OldCoder Pauses 20:20 envoyxiphos I only know how to host a server on Hamachi.. zzzzzz Dont know how to port foward.. 20:21 OldCoder envoyxiphos, You have not answered. Do you wish to make a VPS server? 20:21 envoyxiphos VPS? 20:21 OldCoder envoyxiphos, What is it you'd like to be able to do? 20:22 envoyxiphos Host A server. W/O Hamachi. 20:22 OldCoder Fine. Start by getting a VPS. Do you have a credit card? 20:22 envoyxiphos Yes. 20:23 OldCoder envoyxiphos, Then you can do this for free. At least initially. 20:23 OldCoder envoyxiphos, Sign up for Amazon Web Services. In short you need an AWS EC2. A Linode might be better but that will cost you about $20 per month. 20:24 envoyxiphos How much will this cost? 20:24 OldCoder See exactly what I said above. 20:24 OldCoder envoyxiphos, Then you can do this for free. At least initially. 20:24 OldCoder Amazon wants your $$$ 20:24 envoyxiphos IK.. 20:25 OldCoder So they give away a very limited VPS 20:25 OldCoder For free 20:25 OldCoder Then they try to nickel and dime you 20:25 OldCoder And get you onto the $$$ tier 20:25 OldCoder But 20:25 OldCoder You can have a free server for a year if you wish 20:25 OldCoder It will run MT but only one world and not many users 20:25 OldCoder It will be suitable for learning purposes 20:26 envoyxiphos How many users? 20:26 bulletrulz hi can someone make a .rpm for me for minetest PLEASE 20:26 OldCoder envoyxiphos, I don't know for sure; I gave up because I started to accumulate quite a few 20:26 OldCoder envoyxiphos, $20 per month I think will get you a Linode 20:26 OldCoder That should be adequate for anything you wish to do 20:26 envoyxiphos Im thinking maybe 10? ;/ 20:26 OldCoder There are $10 per month VPS 20:26 OldCoder Has anybody here tried them? 20:27 * OldCoder listens to the crickets 20:27 envoyxiphos Well I havent.. 20:27 OldCoder envoyxiphos, I am neededd elsewhere for a bit but I'll be happy to discuss this further 20:27 envoyxiphos Okay. 20:28 OldCoder envoyxiphos, If you are interested we'll talk and I'll explain how to do the software side of it 20:28 OldCoder It is not difficult and you can also have 20:28 OldCoder Forums, websites with CMS, other online games 20:28 OldCoder All of it 20:28 OldCoder VPS is convenient 20:28 OldCoder 20:29 envoyxiphos Okay. I was thinking of Tunngle is that good? 20:29 OldCoder I will check; I have not heard of them 20:29 OldCoder envoyxiphos, I have a meeting elsewhere for a little while 20:30 OldCoder NekoGloop, wb 20:30 NekoGloop wb? 20:31 envoyxiphos_ sfan5|OFF Hey 20:31 OldCoder NekoGloop, welcome back 20:31 envoyxiphos_ OldCoder. You should really check out tunngle. 20:31 envoyxiphos_ looks amazing 20:31 OldCoder I will 20:32 envoyxiphos_ It doesnt say my credit card is valid.... 20:32 bulletrulz please someone it would really be awesome if u could 20:33 OldCoder bulletrulz, Which OS again? 20:33 envoyxiphos_ ? 20:34 OldCoder please someone it would really be awesome if u could 20:34 envoyxiphos_ fedora 17 is his OS 20:34 bulletrulz OldCoder: i HAVE fedora 17 gnome 20:34 OldCoder bulletrulz, That is what I needed to know. Do you have a link to an ISO? 20:35 bulletrulz oldcoder yeah 20:35 OldCoder bulletrulz, you're looking for a server or just the client? You can have both BTW 20:36 bulletrulz OldCoder: client 20:36 OldCoder bulletrulz, If I gave you a tarball instead of an RPM would that be acceptable? It would basically unpack to a folder in /opt 20:36 bulletrulz old coder i686 or x86_64 20:36 OldCoder bulletrulz, either 20:36 bulletrulz OldCoder: yeah as long as i can play minetest 20:37 OldCoder bulletrulz, give me the ISO link for i686 for now 20:37 bulletrulz OldCoder: http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options 20:38 OldCoder bulletrulz, I am pretty busy. If possible get me the actual ISO link. Here is the deal. You talk me through an install and I'll build the whole kit and kaboodle for you. 20:38 OldCoder I need an actual ISO file http:// link to download the correct ISO 20:38 bulletrulz OldCoder: u serious :D thanku u 20:38 OldCoder We will try anyway 20:38 OldCoder No promises 20:38 OldCoder But if it works 20:38 OldCoder I can update pretty easily in the future 20:39 bulletrulz OldCoder: gnome kde lxde xfce? 20:40 bulletrulz which one 20:40 bulletrulz theres alot of spins 20:40 bulletrulz ill just give u gnome 20:40 OldCoder bulletrulz, You are using GNOME. Correct? 20:40 OldCoder GNOME i686 20:40 bulletrulz yes 20:40 OldCoder We will try 64 bit later 20:40 bulletrulz http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/17/Live/i686/Fedora-17-i686-Live-Desktop.iso 20:43 OldCoder bulletrulz, downloading 20:43 envoyxiphos_ OldCoder. 20:43 OldCoder envoyxiphos_, yes 20:43 envoyxiphos_ Could you host s server for me? 20:43 OldCoder I will check the Tun* in a few minutes 20:43 OldCoder envoyxiphos_, do you have a world? 20:43 OldCoder Or anything unique or special such as a fork? 20:43 envoyxiphos_ Yeah. 20:43 envoyxiphos_ No fork. 20:43 envoyxiphos_ Just a world 20:43 OldCoder What work do you have? 20:44 OldCoder *world 20:44 envoyxiphos_ A small world with only one building but it is special and I have been working on it in my hammachi server. 20:44 envoyxiphos_ I will put it on mediafire so you can host the world 20:45 OldCoder envoyxiphos, shall we just merge that building into the Octupus or LAD world? 20:45 OldCoder It would go nicely on LAD world. He has a collection of different types. 20:46 envoyxiphos_ Well Sure. 20:46 envoyxiphos_ Put it in a relative location though 20:46 OldCoder envoyxiphos_ whatever you wish 20:47 envoyxiphos_ Okay. 20:48 envoyxiphos_ The file is 5 KB 20:48 OldCoder envoyxiphos_, That seems fine 20:48 envoyxiphos_ 4 KB* 20:49 envoyxiphos_ ^^ 20:49 OldCoder envoyxiphos_, Tunngle uses Flash. I don't. They also seem to be some type of games host. Is this the case? 20:50 envoyxiphos_ No Not a games host. 20:50 envoyxiphos_ They are a PC gaming host. 20:50 OldCoder I see 20:50 envoyxiphos_ For any PC games 20:50 OldCoder I am interested primarily in VPS 20:50 envoyxiphos_ Well it is also a network hosting program 20:50 OldCoder k 20:51 OldCoder Might be just what you need then 20:51 OldCoder bulletrulz, download about done. If I have too many questions we can drop to PM. 20:51 envoyxiphos_ Oh OldCoder. 20:51 OldCoder Yes? 20:52 envoyxiphos_ Please Host Me a server. Trying to pull away from M13's side.. 20:52 envoyxiphos_ Dont worry about. emerging the Cinema into LAD's server 20:52 mrtux Hi OldCoder 20:52 OldCoder envoyxiphos_, I can only keep giving away entire servers if there is something like a game fork or a built up world. Somebody here lectured me about fragmentation and he was right. 20:53 OldCoder envoyxiphos_, What would you need a full server for otherwise? 20:53 OldCoder Not saying no 20:53 envoyxiphos_ Okay. 20:53 OldCoder But if you are asking for yet another empty world 20:53 OldCoder Why not build in one of the existing ones? 20:53 envoyxiphos_ I will build a world 20:53 envoyxiphos_ okay? 20:53 OldCoder All right 20:53 OldCoder Sure 20:54 envoyxiphos_ I have one of my freebuilds gonna check it out. 21:01 envoyxiphos_ I have a question OldCoder. 21:01 envoyxiphos_ How do you set a static spawn? 21:02 OldCoder Hi 21:02 OldCoder envoyxiphos_, in the .conf file 21:02 OldCoder One moment 21:03 OldCoder static_spawnpoint = -60,24,-3 21:03 OldCoder Like that 21:03 OldCoder bulletrulz, I will comment here a bit 21:03 OldCoder If it becomes too complicated we will go to PM 21:03 OldCoder But others may find this useful 21:04 OldCoder bulletrulz, you said Fedora17. Is this correct? 21:05 bulletrulz OldCoder: yes 21:06 OldCoder bulletrulz, I have created a small PC named Fedora17. I will boot the ISO soon. 21:06 bulletrulz OldCoder: ok 21:07 OldCoder Booting Fedora 17 21:08 bulletrulz ok lets go on pm 21:08 OldCoder As you wish 21:09 OldCoder bulletrulz, I have a desktop and a virtual hard disk 21:09 bulletrulz ok 21:09 OldCoder bulletrulz, I will now install Fedora 21:09 OldCoder Wait 21:09 bulletrulz ok 21:09 OldCoder bulletrulz, the main thing I'll need from you is simple. The commands to install and update packages. 21:09 OldCoder This may be quite simple 21:10 OldCoder For the others: Fedora has a dual mode CD like Ubuntu or Mint. Try or Install. I am simply doing Install. 21:10 bulletrulz oh to install easy sudo yum install package 21:10 OldCoder We will see then 21:11 OldCoder Install is standard 21:12 bulletrulz ok 21:12 OldCoder Fedora is copying itself to virtual hard disk 21:13 bulletrulz OldCoder: Very Good 21:15 OldCoder sdzen, wb. I have added music and sound effects to the game. Also check out the new player character. VanessaE selected him. 21:15 OldCoder Plus a Europe server and a PilzAdam world. 21:15 OldCoder And new mods. 21:15 OldCoder <--- has kept busy 21:15 NekoGloop Meow. 21:15 OldCoder Hello kitty 21:15 * OldCoder puts down a kitty treat 21:15 NekoGloop :3 21:15 bulletrulz OldCoder: ???!!!! 21:15 bulletrulz WOW 21:15 * NekoGloop eats it :3 21:15 OldCoder bulletrulz, ? 21:16 OldCoder bulletrulz, about 30% copied 21:16 bulletrulz when u said that I WALKED into my sister watching hello kittie 21:16 sdzen (insertnamehere) hello! 21:16 OldCoder bulletrulz, Ah 21:17 NekoGloop (insertnamehere) bye! 21:17 bulletrulz (insertnamehere) U MUST DIE! 21:17 OldCoder bulletrulz, how is it that you became a Fedora user? 21:18 bulletrulz OldCoder: idk i tried ubuntu just wasent my cup of tee but fedora just idk i just like feodra 21:18 sdzen my experience with fedora version 7: good but it needed work 21:18 OldCoder bulletrulz, That is fine. There are more than Ubuntu and Fedora of course. 21:19 OldCoder sdzen, He is using 17 IIRC 21:19 bulletrulz OldCoder: ik 21:19 OldCoder There is my own distro of course :-) but it is far from ready 21:19 sdzen just shows how long ago I tried it 21:19 bulletrulz OldCoder: arch? 21:19 OldCoder bulletrulz, No; my own distro 21:19 OldCoder I'll post a screenshots link below 21:20 bulletrulz OldCoder: .deb .rpm or niether 21:20 bulletrulz debain based ir red hat based or niether 21:20 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/distro/ssdistro/ssdistrogames.html 21:20 sdzen a tar.gz is fine too 21:20 OldCoder bulletrulz, No packages 21:20 OldCoder It is monolithic but can be remastered from 200MB to 64GB 21:21 envoyxiphos_ Downloading Windows 8 brb. 21:21 OldCoder About 80% with the Fedora copy 21:21 OldCoder *done 21:21 bulletrulz envoyxiphos_: why windows xD 21:22 bulletrulz OldCoder: its 84 now 21:22 envoyxiphos_ Because I use Wondows. I havent used anything else besides Apple software IOS 6 21:22 OldCoder 84? 21:22 envoyxiphos_ windows* 21:22 bulletrulz envoyxiphos_: U Should try linux u will not be disopanted 21:23 bulletrulz envoyxiphos_: if u try it 21:23 envoyxiphos_ How is it? 21:23 envoyxiphos_ Because my current comp gets 5 FPS. SMH.. 21:23 bulletrulz envoyxiphos_: here how powerful is ur pc i can find a distro for u 21:23 envoyxiphos_ Stupid Windws.. 21:24 envoyxiphos_ 4 core 21:24 OldCoder 4 core is very good 21:24 bulletrulz what is the speed of it 21:24 envoyxiphos_ Custom made actually. 21:24 bulletrulz the mhz 21:24 bulletrulz envoyxiphos_: do u perfer speed over looks? 21:24 envoyxiphos_ Yes 21:25 bulletrulz or want both cause 21:25 OldCoder <--- Likes lightweight 21:25 bulletrulz yeah here are my 3 suggestions 21:26 bulletrulz ubuntu.com UBUNTU the most poplur linux distro milliones of users 21:26 OldCoder Good community support 21:26 OldCoder But try Mint instead 21:26 bulletrulz bodhilinux.com uses e17 extremely fast but still good looking 21:26 OldCoder Same thing but better 21:26 bulletrulz linuxmint.com based off ubuntu very good 21:26 sdzen solus os based off debian 21:26 sdzen very stable 21:26 bulletrulz sdzen dude u read my mind 21:26 envoyxiphos_ PING: 26ms DOWNLOAD SPEED: 30 mbps UPLOAD SPEED: 6 mbps 21:27 bulletrulz i used solus for a while 21:27 OldCoder Absolute Linux is Slackware Made Simple 21:27 envoyxiphos_ There are my speed test results 21:27 OldCoder Absolute is Absolutely good 21:27 bulletrulz but for u a new person go to linuxmint.com 21:27 OldCoder Get the MATE desktop 21:27 envoyxiphos_ How are my results? 21:27 sdzen i encountered more issues with debian based then any slackware based 21:28 bulletrulz envoyxiphos_: those are wifi results 21:28 sdzen anything ubuntu based is good for beginners 21:28 sdzen well most anything 21:28 bulletrulz sdzen: his a begginer 21:28 envoyxiphos_ Yeah I know but it still has something to do with my comp 21:28 bulletrulz envoyxiphos_: next thing do u have a usb stick or cd or dvd? 21:28 envoyxiphos_ Usb 21:29 bulletrulz ohk download unetbootin look it up on google 21:29 OldCoder bulletrulz, booting Fedora 21:29 bulletrulz get it for windows and OldCoder ok 21:29 OldCoder bulletrulz, get what? 21:29 OldCoder Oh 21:29 envoyxiphos_ one sec imma link my performance info. 21:30 bulletrulz OldCoder: i wan talking to envoyxiphos_ 21:30 OldCoder Yes; figured it out 21:31 bulletrulz envoyxiphos_: here ill give u the dl link 21:31 envoyxiphos_ http://www.mediafire.com/view/?gbbjtsfbd9nvkx1 21:31 envoyxiphos_ Go there took a screen shot 21:31 envoyxiphos_ I will brb FOODDD 21:32 bulletrulz envoyxiphos_: do u have 32 or 64 21:33 OldCoder 21:33 bulletrulz bit 21:33 OldCoder bulletrulz, I'm in. I need the yum commands for a development environment. 21:33 OldCoder I'll google for them 21:33 bulletrulz ok 21:33 OldCoder Do you happen to know? 21:34 bulletrulz OldCoder: for a develempment enviriment what is that lol 21:34 * OldCoder sighs 21:34 OldCoder Wait, then 21:34 bulletrulz OldCoder: a diffrent de? 21:34 OldCoder No. The compiler to build Minetest. 21:34 bulletrulz ohhhh 21:35 bulletrulz no i dont know sorry 21:35 OldCoder Proceeding 21:44 bulletrulz OldCoder: any progress 21:44 OldCoder bulletrulz, I am gathering 21:44 OldCoder a list of all the packages I must install 21:44 OldCoder Basically I am Googling 21:45 bulletrulz OldCoder: ohkay 21:48 OldCoder Installing Fedora development tools 21:48 envoyxiphos_ Back. 21:49 envoyxiphos_ I have 64- bit 21:49 iqualfragile yum groupinstall "Development Tools" "Development Libraries" 21:49 OldCoder iqualfragile, thx 21:49 bulletrulz envoy lol no!! 21:50 Mikeonline is there minetest.item_use or sth like that? 21:50 bulletrulz iqualfragile: u have fedora? 21:50 Mikeonline like minetest.item_place 21:50 envoyxiphos Okay. 21:50 OldCoder iqualfragile, I'd done @development-tools is that about the same as the 1st? 21:50 envoyxiphos Im here. 21:50 iqualfragile not on this machine 21:51 iqualfragile when my command does not install anything new then it is 21:51 OldCoder k 21:52 bulletrulz envoyxiphos: http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=104 21:53 OldCoder bulletrulz, I am installing Fedora packages 21:53 bulletrulz OldCoder: k 21:53 envoyxiphos You sure this is good? 21:53 bulletrulz envoyxiphos: pick a dl link yes 21:53 bulletrulz it it very good and fast 21:54 bulletrulz envoyxiphos: youll notice a lot less crashes 21:55 bulletrulz envoyxiphos: no bsod or viruses 21:55 bulletrulz envoyxiphos: once its done downloading go here 21:56 bulletrulz http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/UNetbootin/581/unetbootin-windows-581.exe/download?use_mirror=voxel 21:58 envoyxiphos How do you download it. x.x 21:58 envoyxiphos H 21:58 bulletrulz go down what country u live in? 21:58 bulletrulz \ 21:59 envoyxiphos_ This is horrid.. 21:59 bulletrulz ENvoyxiphos u live in usa? 21:59 envoyxiphos_ yes 21:59 bulletrulz ok here http://mirror.jmu.edu/pub/linuxmint/images/stable/13/linuxmint-13-mate-dvd-64bit.iso 22:01 bulletrulz it should start dling 22:02 envoyxiphos_ It is. 22:02 bulletrulz ok what browser u using 22:02 bulletrulz ie chrome firefox? 22:03 envoyxiphos_ chrome 22:04 bulletrulz ok go to show all downloads 22:04 envoyxiphos_ why? 22:04 iqualfragile1 lulz, there is no chrome in linux 22:04 bulletrulz iqualfragile1: yeah there is 22:04 bulletrulz wtf -_- 22:04 bulletrulz theres chrome and chromium 22:04 iqualfragile1 no, nobody uses it 22:05 iqualfragile1 yeah, there is chromium 22:05 bulletrulz iqualfragile1: yeah most linux users do 22:05 bulletrulz https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/thankyou.html?brand=CHMA 22:06 bulletrulz google chrome with flash and shit is on linux 22:06 bulletrulz r u a linux user 22:06 bulletrulz infact IM USING CHROME RIGHT NOW XD 22:06 iqualfragile1 haha, lulz, no, why would i use that crap? 22:06 iqualfragile1 im using windows8 beta 22:07 bulletrulz iqualfragile1: dude dont say its crap if u havent tried it in my eyes windows IS A BULLSHIT MASSACERE 22:07 bulletrulz computers are like air conditionors they dont work right if u open windows 22:08 iqualfragile1 linux is like boring nothing works if you open games! 22:08 bulletrulz oh iqualfragile1 u almost got me xD u said u use linux eailer xad 22:08 iqualfragile1 damd! 22:08 bulletrulz iqualfragile1: xD u r a linux user xD 22:09 bulletrulz ALMOST got me 22:10 envoyxiphos_ 3 mins left on the download. 22:10 ecube so what 22:10 ecube i'm a linux user 22:11 bulletrulz ecube: no he is too he just is being a troll he uses linux also 22:11 envoyxiphos_ ecube what happend to wazuclans server? 22:11 ecube what happened to it? 22:12 ecube what do you mean, what happened to it? what's different abou tit? 22:12 envoyxiphos_ No one ever comes on.. Dx 22:12 ecube it's still 0.4.1 22:12 envoyxiphos_ Why? 22:12 bulletrulz see ecube iqualfragile: yum groupinstall "Development Tools" "Development Libraries 22:12 bulletrulz MUTHER FUCKER ALMOST GOT ME 22:12 bulletrulz xD 22:12 envoyxiphos_ why doesnt he upgrade it. 22:13 bulletrulz envoyxiphos_: 22:13 envoyxiphos_ Damn Orby.. 22:13 envoyxiphos_ ? 22:13 ecube Orby is ... busy. 22:13 bulletrulz the dl is it done 22:13 ecube with real life issues. 22:13 envoyxiphos_ How so? 22:13 envoyxiphos_ H e hasnt did anything... 22:14 envoyxiphos_ bulletrulz Its done 22:14 bulletrulz ok envoyxiphos_now remember the link for unetbootin 22:14 envoyxiphos_ no. 22:14 bulletrulz http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/UNetbootin/581/unetbootin-windows-581.exe/download?use_mirror=voxel 22:14 ecube exactly. 22:14 envoyxiphos_ what ecube? 22:15 bulletrulz ecube: envoyxiphos_is trying mint 22:15 bulletrulz envoyxiphos_: u dl it 22:16 envoyxiphos_ Yeah. 22:16 bulletrulz u dl unetbootin? 22:16 envoyxiphos_ i did 22:17 bulletrulz ok so now grab a usb 22:17 bulletrulz delete the stuff off of it 22:18 bulletrulz now when u boot into mint click on menu then internet then xchatirc and join freenode and then /join #minetest 22:18 bulletrulz ok but once done with the usb stick go to unetbootin .exe 22:19 Mikeonline n8 guys 22:19 bulletrulz then go to click on the iso then it says brb 22:20 bulletrulz put where the iso is 22:21 bulletrulz then click ok let it do its thing restart then got to xchsy irc 22:21 bulletrulz through live cd 22:22 ecube minetest depends on pulseaudio?! 22:22 ecube oh wait, that's the openal library 22:22 NekoGloop openal 22:29 bulletrulz igtg' 23:00 NekoGloop Anyone working on some magical mod? 23:11 Octupus hi 23:53 OCTUPUS opss :D 23:54 OldCoder Octupus, Hey 23:54 OldCoder Octupus, check out the new player character 23:55 OldCoder Also there is music if you didn't hear it yesterday 23:55 Octupus talk on m13 channel 23:55 OldCoder k 23:55 Octupus it is more quiet :)