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00:00 milleja46 and the fact I broke my hand I couldn't play for 8 weeks
00:00 milleja46 in those 8 weeks it died XD
00:00 Octupus every1 went to gameboom
00:00 Octupus because of me
00:00 ecube I forgot my freedns password
00:00 milleja46 Octupus: because of landmine
00:00 Octupus ask any1 who was on
00:00 VanessaE M13_: besides, I don't set forum policy - c55 does.  He brought it up, not me.
00:00 M13_ And i guess i dont have brains because i cant make a hack client!
00:00 milleja46 I hate that guy with a passion
00:00 milleja46 still
00:00 ecube I wish his mansion wasn't griefed
00:00 ecube it was incredible
00:00 M13_ ive tried
00:00 ecube :\
00:01 Octupus it was deadman that dd it
00:01 milleja46 ecube: what do you expect? he was a griefer I didn't see a reason to stop it when he had hurt most of us that did play on your server everyonce in awhile....
00:01 VanessaE M13_: and furthermore, I don't control what c55 says.  don't like his pattern of speech?  say something to him about it :-)
00:01 Octupus m13 im stuck 29998 in the air and no shout
00:01 milleja46 I miss max and playing with him on ecube 's server :P
00:01 ecube You're willing to destroy an amazing creation because its creator was a bad person.
00:01 Octupus i miss every1
00:01 khonkhortisan if you make a hack client, do something more complicated than god mode.
00:01 ecube ^
00:02 milleja46 ecube: I didn't take part in distroying it
00:02 VanessaE milleja46: there is a "Max" that plays on redcrab's server, not sure if he's the same person
00:02 M13_ is he around
00:02 Octupus max is an ass
00:02 M13_ He hasnt been active
00:02 milleja46 I just didn't stop it after all the destruction landmine did to me
00:02 Octupus just saying
00:02 ecube Max IS an ass... remember what he threatened to do when i removed his privileges?
00:02 VanessaE M13_: he hasn't been hanging around in here, and I haven't seen a whole lot of activity from him on -dev either lately
00:02 milleja46 landmine had destroyed at least 4 different houses i started building
00:02 VanessaE (some, but not much)
00:02 milleja46 the first 2 on the first map on ecube 's server
00:03 Octupus i liked sealife cove :D
00:03 Octupus until landmine griefied it
00:03 ecube i'll just make a new server in creative mode and no damage
00:03 M13_ mk
00:03 Octupus and trapped ppl in steel blocks
00:03 M13_ ill email him
00:03 milleja46 Octupus: i liked my town, until landmine moved in
00:03 Octupus yep
00:03 ecube ima iptables him again
00:03 Octupus m13 im on your server
00:03 Octupus stuck btw
00:03 milleja46 eww I hate creative, i like survival....it's fun to try and survive as long as there's no landmine
00:04 ecube try to survive. ...
00:04 khonkhortisan you die by running off a cliff
00:04 ecube lol
00:04 milleja46 (I still have yet to find a good reliable mac build)
00:04 milleja46 kinda why I started playing minecraft >_>
00:04 VanessaE M13_: and I stand behind my "lack of common sense" comment in that log - if someone is repeatedly told "no, we will not give you that" and they go from just requesting to demanding as if it's some natural right, that person exhibits some lack of common sense at least in that subject.
00:04 M13_ PS : and thanks to c55 Im starting to move away from Minetest but He dont care all he cares about is him and that is IT
00:04 * milleja46 wonders why he wants to type mincecraft so much
00:04 ecube lol
00:05 ecube mincetest
00:05 ecube ;d
00:05 khonkhortisan your comment lagged from what it was responding to due to message length and typing speed
00:05 VanessaE M13_: most of us have noticed that :-/
00:05 Octupus SHUSH celeron55 sees all
00:05 Octupus (o)(o'0
00:05 * milleja46 wonders what it would be like to have a mutiny on minetest XD
00:06 ecube ;)
00:06 VanessaE celeron55:  piss off ;)
00:06 M13_ I dont think anyone cares about people like me anyway Ive tried to make something of myself in minetest but ppl just shoot my ideas and mods ect. down
00:06 ecube VanessaE:
00:06 khonkhortisan we're going to fork your project on github! muahahaha! <- is what a mutiny would look like
00:06 ecube ^
00:06 VanessaE M13_: the problem is you don't give people enough time to get used to you and/or your projects.
00:06 milleja46 khonkhortisan: true
00:06 Octupus m13 can i be admin on yo server
00:07 milleja46 khonkhortisan: wouldn't be that hard if you think about it
00:07 M13_ Because ppl dont help me
00:07 Octupus i try to help m13
00:07 milleja46 though me and tuqz have been trying to write a minetest rewrite(without minetest as a ref)
00:07 M13_ OldCoder is the only one that has ever helped
00:07 Octupus :o
00:07 Octupus havent i helped b4
00:07 khonkhortisan ugh not the flickr-doesn't-give-me-direct-links thing again!
00:07 VanessaE M13_: people try to help, but if you won't accept the help offered and respect others who offer it, that help will stop.
00:07 * milleja46 still has to learn c++ XD
00:08 VanessaE I have tried to help too, as you no doubt recall.
00:08 M13_ tried? ok
00:08 VanessaE khonkhortisan: ompldr is your friend :-)
00:08 VanessaE â„¢
00:08 milleja46 c++ is a pain to learn when you can't concentrate XD
00:08 M13_ No one even tried to help me with github >:|
00:09 VanessaE milleja46:  Lua is a pain to learn even when you *can* concentrate
00:09 M13_ btw Lua is easy
00:09 ecube no
00:09 ecube fuck no
00:09 VanessaE M13_: didn't you say you gave up on that?
00:09 ecube it isn't easy
00:09 M13_ what github?
00:09 VanessaE I didn'
00:09 M13_ no
00:09 VanessaE yeah
00:09 VanessaE using windows right?
00:09 M13_ NO
00:09 M13_ never
00:10 VanessaE ok
00:10 milleja46 VanessaE: well I got through a portion of a c++ free course offered through school...made it through the first few chapters and then couldn't figure out how to stay focused since people kept disrupting me XD
00:10 M13_ is krays server up?
00:10 Octupus so i guess i didnt help at all :l
00:10 milleja46 amd when I say free course I mean a free subscription to lynda
00:10 khonkhortisan Is it acceptable to make a pull request where the only information is before-and-after pictures?
00:10 M13_ Octupus you did and yes you can be Mod on my server
00:11 Octupus ok
00:11 ecube can i be admin? :3
00:11 ecube lol don't do it
00:11 VanessaE milleja46: Oh, Some exception?  you say on line 501783462432 ?  but the calling program was on line 5672543423524?  Let me see.... no, that's good.  no...  no, that should work fine...  this one's okay too...  this one--oops, ah missed a comma buried under 5000 kB of actual code
00:11 ecube i didn't log on yet
00:11 ecube and i'm not sure about logging on :o
00:11 Octupus thanks m13
00:12 Octupus u can be admin on my server :D
00:12 khonkhortisan I think I'll just do it anyway.
00:12 milleja46 VanessaE: granted errors reported by debuggers and such are not very descriptive :-\
00:12 M13_ Does anyone have ideas on how im going to be more popular on Minetest (I guess my server is popular :)
00:12 VanessaE milleja46: that's putting it mildly :-)
00:12 ecube lol
00:12 milleja46 python's errors are a little easier to understand
00:12 ecube be nice
00:12 ecube milleja46: YES
00:12 M13_ be nice
00:12 ecube imagine coding mt in python
00:12 VanessaE M13_: time, your collection of mods, and how well yo manage your server are the best tips
00:12 VanessaE you*
00:12 ecube ^
00:12 Octupus m13
00:13 Octupus i got an idea
00:13 milleja46 ecube: yea it would be less code, but run slower
00:13 VanessaE python?  byte your tongue
00:13 M13_ yes
00:13 milleja46 VanessaE: ha computer humor
00:13 VanessaE (at least you didn't suggest Perl)
00:13 Octupus build the best version of mt u can
00:13 milleja46 VanessaE: eww perl
00:13 Octupus better the mt
00:13 milleja46 I'd rather find a perl in a clam
00:13 M13_ i did
00:13 Octupus better than mc itself
00:13 Octupus make your own textures
00:13 M13_ Minetest-M13 but i cant get it to run on Windows :/
00:13 Octupus and boom
00:14 Octupus im windows
00:14 NekoGloop VanessaE: Some Exception: Kiss my ass
00:14 M13_ lolz
00:14 VanessaE windows sucks anyway ;-)
00:14 AndrewPH joined #minetest
00:14 milleja46 Octupus: not hard include a modding package, animals, monsters, and accurate water and you're better than both :P
00:14 NekoGloop that message should be on a shirt.
00:14 VanessaE Neko "I derped" Gloop:  "Some Exception: We hate you."
00:14 VanessaE ;-)
00:14 M13_ Vanessa half of the ppl use Windows :(
00:14 milleja46 NekoGloop: no what should be on a shirt is "don't even blink, blink and you're dead" :P
00:14 * milleja46 hopes no one caught that
00:14 VanessaE M13_: actually statistically Minetest users are about 3/4 linux and 1/4 windows
00:15 NekoGloop oh god
00:15 Octupus milleja46,yep
00:15 Basstard` VanessaE: GNU.
00:15 M13_ Vanessa do you have TeamViewer
00:15 NekoGloop weepin angels.
00:15 khonkhortisan Does git diff normally show a difference on the last line?
00:15 VanessaE no.
00:15 M13_ o ok
00:15 milleja46 :D yay! someone caught my joke :D
00:15 VanessaE I don't use virual desktop programs - they are unsafe.
00:15 NakedFury and it is statistically true that the 1/4 users are better
00:15 Octupus dont be dissing WINDOWS
00:15 M13_ can someone give me instructions on how to setup github?
00:15 Octupus i like linux better thab windows anyway :)
00:15 VanessaE M13_: go set up an account first
00:15 M13_ did
00:15 ecube I like how whatismyip.org prints the ip to an image >.<
00:15 milleja46 (I wonder how much of the supposed windows/linux users are people emulating it since there's no true mac build :P)
00:15 M13_ Im madchicken13 lolz
00:16 ecube its stoopid
00:16 VanessaE M13_: ok, in the upper right corner of the screen, above your name is a link that looks like a book with a "+"
00:16 VanessaE click that
00:16 VanessaE the instructions are fairly straightforward
00:17 Basstard` ecube: You had a server, right?
00:17 M13_ hmmm k thanks
00:17 VanessaE "repository name" should be one word
00:17 ecube i'm currently building latest stable version of mt on my ded server comp, i'm going to reinstate minetest
00:17 milleja46 hrmm there really needs to be a mt rewrite with c++ as main code and python as mods :P
00:17 M13_ i forgot my password :/
00:17 ecube not ded connection though, just dedicated computer
00:17 VanessaE you will need to get it back first :-)
00:17 milleja46 that might actually be interesting....
00:17 VanessaE milleja46:  no.  do. not. want.
00:17 khonkhortisan I see absolutely no difference between the lines it says I changed
00:18 ecube and i have to go in about 3 minutes. :)
00:18 milleja46 ecube: make it survival and I'll play :P
00:18 VanessaE khonkhortisan: &nbsp;?  tabs vs. spaces?
00:18 ecube aw
00:18 khonkhortisan '    "plankstone")' it says \ No newline at end of file
00:18 ecube i want to make minetest's first creative server
00:18 ecube or id
00:18 ecube *idk
00:18 khonkhortisan it's four spaces
00:18 ecube is there a creative server yet?
00:18 milleja46 I love some of the struggle to make stuff while having to gather stuff :P
00:19 ecube milleja46: if you want to play survival, why not play on my clan's server? it's survival
00:19 VanessaE ecube: when celeron55's server is online, it is creative mode
00:19 ecube odamn
00:19 khonkhortisan If I added or removed a newline I'd expect to see an extra red or green line in the diff
00:19 VanessaE one of Oldcoder's is also
00:19 ecube well
00:19 M13_ Vanessa i have a repo
00:19 NekoGloop there is a creative server on OldCoder's thingy
00:19 ecube is it online atm?
00:19 VanessaE M13_: can you log in yet?
00:19 ecube there arent enough creative servers though
00:19 milleja46 ecube: because I liked your personal servers you ran :P
00:19 VanessaE ecube: dunno, been a while since I last looked
00:19 milleja46 they were nice and quiet :P
00:19 NekoGloop just run the goddamn server :D
00:20 M13_ i reset my pass here is my repo : https://github.com/madchicken13/Minetest-M13
00:20 * milleja46 wonders if there's a more recent mac build than 6 to 12 months ago
00:20 ecube what's wrong with creative?
00:20 milleja46 ecube: no struggle it makes things too easy :P
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00:20 ecube but the point of creative is to build amazing buildings
00:20 milleja46 you can build amazing things is survival :P
00:20 VanessaE ecube: ew do that quite nicely on redcrab's server without creative mode :-)
00:20 VanessaE we*
00:20 M13_ I guess i need to make a README file and stuff like that
00:20 NekoGloop i want a creative server with technic and mesecons
00:20 VanessaE especially with my homedecor mod in place
00:21 khonkhortisan You design your building in creative then build it on a survival server
00:21 ecube VanessaE: you use the /give command
00:21 ecube :P
00:21 VanessaE NekoGloop:  OldCoder's server has it.
00:21 Octupus m13 every1 on yo server watching me
00:21 Mikeonline left #minetest
00:21 VanessaE ecube: no, I don't - not there.  I mine and trade for what I need.
00:21 M13_ how, VanessaE
00:21 NekoGloop VanessaE: but i have no idea which one :P
00:21 ecube kk then, but i'll be back in 2:30 hours
00:21 khonkhortisan there are many stores on redcrab
00:21 NekoGloop i dont want the LM one, i want his creative.
00:21 ecube or 3
00:21 VanessaE M13_: you said you lost your password - get it back and make sure you can log in with it to the websitre.
00:21 VanessaE website*
00:21 VanessaE NekoGloop: 30002 I think?  or 30006
00:21 VanessaE one or the other
00:22 M13_ Im logged in Vanessa
00:22 VanessaE M13_: ok, you have a repo already?
00:22 NekoGloop oh cool, it globalizes my password.
00:22 M13_ yes Here https://github.com/madchicken13/Minetest-M13
00:22 VanessaE M13_: open a terminal.
00:22 M13_ in Ubuntu?
00:22 * milleja46 doesn't want to finish this paper XD
00:22 VanessaE yes
00:22 M13_ ok
00:23 M13_ inter the commands?
00:23 VanessaE now at the top of the web page for your repo, do you see the link that says "Git Read Only"?
00:23 * milleja46 waits for the backlog to load XD
00:23 milleja46 gotta love when my client that keeps me connected crashes >_>
00:24 VanessaE next to it it'll be something like:  git://github.com/madchicken13/Minetest-M13.git
00:24 NekoGloop goddammit...
00:24 NekoGloop I dont have interact.
00:24 M13_ o yes what do i kdo with it
00:24 milleja46 M13_: there's nothing there O_O
00:24 NekoGloop on a freaking creative server...
00:24 NekoGloop you dont have interact to start with.
00:24 NekoGloop god. dammit.
00:24 VanessaE M13_: in your terminal, make a work directory.  cd into that directory.
00:25 VanessaE M13_: then do:   git clone git://blahblahblah <-------- whatever the address is that is shown there
00:25 khonkhortisan NekoGloop, which one?
00:25 NekoGloop 30006
00:25 NekoGloop VanessaE: 30002 is skyblock XD
00:25 M13_ ok and then i upload my files from there ok i get it its like bitbukkit
00:25 VanessaE NekoGloop: anti-griefing measure - who wants to spend an hour rebuilding because some schmuck spent five minutes burying your structure in lava and burning it?
00:26 VanessaE M13_: no
00:26 M13_ hahaha im soooo stupid
00:26 VanessaE M13_: not quite.  similar but not the same.
00:26 VanessaE you have your repo cloned now?
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00:27 khonkhortisan most descriptive pull request ever: https://github.com/Calinou/calinou_mods/pull/4
00:27 M13_ I need to install git
00:27 VanessaE evening mike.
00:27 VanessaE M13_: ok, go do that
00:27 VanessaE sudo apt-get install git
00:27 khonkhortisan yes you need to install git, you can even remove svn if you like.
00:27 Mikeonline oops
00:28 Mikeonline wrong window
00:28 M13_ that helps lolz
00:28 Mikeonline hi
00:28 Mikeonline iam so tired
00:28 Mikeonline its 2:28 am :D
00:28 khonkhortisan Hello Mikeoffline
00:28 VanessaE only 8:28pm here.
00:28 Mikeonline VanessaE :P
00:28 Mikeonline i just introduced a hand of players to minetest tonight
00:28 Mikeonline hard work
00:29 Mikeonline portogiese people dont speak much english...
00:29 VanessaE M13_: "There is no source code celeron does not have source for these versions sorry to ruin your day >:("
00:29 M13_ i get this : http://pastebin.com/6XYvUKaB
00:29 Mikeonline portoguese
00:29 M13_ o yea srry
00:29 VanessaE incorrect.  All source code is on github, you just have to roll back far enough to find the right time period.
00:29 NekoGloop phillipines have a law now that pretty much means they cant do anything with the internet.
00:29 Mikeonline hm VanessaE you told me once to get worldedit so i did
00:29 M13_ i fix how?
00:30 Basstard` NekoGloop: Link.
00:30 NekoGloop no video streaming, no downloading, no uploading, etc.
00:30 Mikeonline do you know whats the sense of //dig? it does nothing
00:30 khonkhortisan you'll need an ssh key if you're not going through https
00:30 VanessaE M13_: in that error, you probably need to switch to https:// instead of git:// in your clone url
00:30 Mikeonline you may use svn at github too
00:30 VanessaE you probably don't have a public/private key pair set up (I do()
00:30 milleja46 wow, that is a amazing commit message :D
00:30 khonkhortisan /dig keeps worldedit from removing huge chunks of land without recalculating light, thereby creating a black hole.
00:30 VanessaE so just do git clone http://blahblahblah
00:30 VanessaE er https://
00:30 VanessaE you get the idea
00:30 M13_ so i copy my url of my repo into it ok
00:31 VanessaE no
00:31 * milleja46 wishes there was a more updated version of https://github.com/toabi/minetest-mac/downloads
00:31 M13_ got it
00:31 VanessaE at the top of your repo's web page you see "[ HTTP ][ Git Read-Only ] [git://github.com/blahblahblah]
00:31 VanessaE click on the "HTTP" button
00:32 M13_ is says i cloned a empty repo
00:32 VanessaE then git clone https://that-address-there
00:32 M13_ that is what i did
00:32 VanessaE ok your repo is empty if that's what it says
00:32 Mikeonline khonkhortisan: means its better to use dig instead of set air?
00:32 Mikeonline so dig recalculates light?
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00:32 VanessaE cd into your repo directory (probably work/Minetest-M13)
00:33 VanessaE add your files, make your changes, do whatever
00:33 M13_ and how do i update it
00:33 VanessaE then do git add .; git commit -a; git push
00:33 T_A_N_K is there a mod that sets wielded item?
00:34 M13_ can you paste the command in pastebin please Vanessa
00:34 VanessaE the git commit command will request you to describe your update.  the git push will ask for your github userid and password.
00:34 NekoGloop someone get their ass on develan.com:30000 and give me interact
00:34 VanessaE no, there's nothing to paste.
00:34 VanessaE git add .; git commit -a; git push
00:34 M13_ that is the command?
00:34 VanessaE that's all it takes to publish yoru changes.
00:34 VanessaE yeah
00:34 M13_ ok lolz
00:34 VanessaE whatever you've done to work/Minetest-M13 will be uploaded to github
00:35 M13_ And Minetest-M13 is On GitHub Thnx Vanessa
00:35 VanessaE you must do all three of those commands - add, commit, push exactly as written.
00:35 * M13_ Gives Vanessa a Hug
00:35 VanessaE for now, do them exactly as I wrote them.  Later, we'll show you how to separate those steps
00:35 NekoGloop OldCoder: please get on develan.com:30000 to give me interact...
00:35 VanessaE you're welcome
00:35 M13_ WOOP
00:36 khonkhortisan the commands I wrote down in a file to remember are git remote set-url --push origin (url) and git push origin (branch)
00:36 milleja46 heh, I haven't seen him talk on the other irc network I'm on XD
00:36 VanessaE M13_: well so far all I see is an empty repository - you still need to add/commit/push
00:36 M13_ hahaha Happy Day :-)
00:36 milleja46 he's been really really quiet on there :P
00:36 VanessaE you need to actually put some files in your Minetest-M13 directory :-)
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00:37 M13_ ik
00:37 M13_ Im downloading the src :-)
00:37 VanessaE ok
00:37 NekoGloop god. dammit.
00:37 * milleja46 wonders why M13_ didn't just fork the source :P
00:38 NekoGloop servers that dont give you interact by default are just plain stupid.
00:38 milleja46 NekoGloop: not if it's a anti-Landmine initiative
00:38 VanessaE neko:  two words:  lava bucket.
00:38 MuadTralk haha no ones that do are just crazy
00:38 MuadTralk liek mine
00:38 milleja46 VanessaE: don't say that
00:38 NekoGloop because half the time, there's no moderator to give it to you, so you have to wait forever for a freakin tree to be able to be cut down.
00:38 VanessaE I just did :-)
00:38 milleja46 I still have nightmares
00:39 NekoGloop VanessaE: three words: fucking. survival. server.
00:39 Basstard` NekoGloop: Fucking?
00:39 VanessaE survival != rebuilding from griefing
00:39 M13_ what is commit?
00:39 milleja46 of all the lavaing of the original ecube map I played on by landmine T_T
00:40 milleja46 M13_: you really need to look up the github command reference
00:40 VanessaE M13_: add tells git to record the files you've added so they'll be uploaded.  commit tells git "ok, I'm done with this change and am ready to publish it".   push publishes.
00:40 NekoGloop dat feel when you have enough mods that minetest "is not responding"... :D
00:40 milleja46 add, commit, push :P the essential github workflow ha ha
00:40 NekoGloop on startup, minetest seriously states it is not responding.
00:41 NekoGloop quick! more mods! i need! now!
00:41 VanessaE NekoGloop: I wish the linux version would at least show those little thumbnails during the render-and-extrude step of the startup like it does for some windows folks
00:42 * milleja46 wonders if there's not a essentials mod for minetest :P
00:42 NekoGloop i think that's the problem with the rendering.
00:42 VanessaE c55 basically made it sound like a bug that it shows up at all - I wish he'd make it official by telling irrlicht to *always* do that
00:42 NekoGloop it cycles through that, but gets confused.
00:42 VanessaE eh?
00:42 milleja46 bukkit's essentials for minecraft is amazing there should be one for minetest :P
00:42 VanessaE no, it's just slow.
00:42 NekoGloop milleja46: there's T_A_N_K's essentials.
00:42 VanessaE NekoGloop: want proof?  this will take some time, but try this:
00:43 milleja46 NekoGloop: ehh I would try but I don't have a way to test on mac no official mac build that works on my computer :P
00:43 NekoGloop who the fuck has a mac
00:43 VanessaE Install my HDX and start up once with it.  Record the amount of time it takes.   Now, exit to OS.  Open Junglegrass and Dry Shrub in gimp or similar and flatten them - don't care what they look like.  Save the result.  Start up again.  Record the time.
00:43 NekoGloop apple sucks.
00:44 milleja46 NekoGloop: i have a mac so what? your opinion on that matter, matters none to me
00:44 VanessaE notice how in the second startup with the flattened two textures, the game takes far less time to start.
00:44 T_A_N_K xD
00:44 NekoGloop VanessaE: i already know: 1.5 mins for first one, 1.2 for second.
00:44 VanessaE the extrude routine is DOG SLOW on textures that have lots of transparent bits
00:44 T_A_N_K this setwield item thing is irritating
00:45 VanessaE NekoGloop: you already tried flattening junglegrass and dry shrub?  it took me forever to figure out what the problem was
00:45 VanessaE (and I still have no solution)
00:45 NekoGloop solution: use default textures.
00:45 VanessaE besides that :-)
00:45 NekoGloop solution: use default textures.
00:46 VanessaE oh, I tried the same thing with the curtains in home decor - 512px partially transparent by poking thousands of pixel-sized holes in it?  SIX texture files made the game take a few additional *minutes* to start up.  Flatten them?  no appreciable change from the normal time.
00:47 VanessaE (my normal startup time is about 1:10 - it shot up to well over 3 minutes before I gave up and used flattened versions)
00:47 VanessaE M13_: still waiting for you to push your first commit to your repo
00:48 T_A_N_K is it even possible to set itemstack on placenode
00:48 * milleja46 has never had as many problems with all his apple stuff than he has had with one windows computer, windows is nice and all but it is ugly when it gets to vista or 8
00:48 NekoGloop get XP
00:48 milleja46 NekoGloop: nothing supports that anymore
00:48 milleja46 and it dies in 2014
00:49 NekoGloop everything supports it.
00:49 milleja46 have you tried running a more recent version of firefox on it?
00:49 NekoGloop I dont use firefox.
00:49 milleja46 I don't use IE
00:49 NekoGloop neither do i
00:49 milleja46 IE is ugly and makes pages look ugly
00:49 NekoGloop nope.
00:49 milleja46 and not a big fan of chrome
00:50 milleja46 it's nice and all just don't perfer it
00:51 NekoGloop chrome has tabs in the top bar
00:52 VanessaE and apparently they're easy to accidentally close :D
00:52 OldCoder Hi
00:52 OldCoder Back
00:52 VanessaE wb
00:52 milleja46 yea...I've never had that issue especially since I use a real irc client :P
00:52 milleja46 people that use a webpage as a client are weird most of the time :P
00:52 milleja46 OldCoder: hi again :P
00:53 * milleja46 wonders if anyone would think it odd if he went to sprint >_> only people with a unlimited plan XD
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00:54 VanessaE [10-04 20:51] <NekoGloop> chrome has tabs in the top bar
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00:54 VanessaE [10-04 20:52] <VanessaE> and apparently they're easy to accidentally close :D
00:54 NekoGloop Not accidentally
00:54 milleja46 VanessaE: ha ha
00:54 OldCoder milleja46, Hey
00:54 NekoGloop I went to ipad.
00:54 VanessaE that was too convenient ;-)
00:54 milleja46 VanessaE: yes it was
00:54 OldCoder NekoGloop, interacting you now
00:54 NekoGloop Oh sure.
00:55 NekoGloop After i go to my ipad.
00:55 VanessaE see?  so impatient :-)
00:55 milleja46 NekoGloop: and yet you say apple is evil yet you have a ipad...how hypocrytical >_>
00:55 T_A_N_K when i try to set wielded item on place node it won't let me >.<
00:55 NekoGloop Apple is evil
00:56 icallitvera please enlighten us
00:56 NekoGloop I have the ipad to prove it.
00:56 milleja46 I get better customer support with them than I ever had with a windows pc company :P
00:56 NekoGloop With windows you dont need customer support.
00:56 milleja46 NekoGloop: bwa ha ha ha
00:57 milleja46 you do when you accidently mess something up and there's no answer online how to fix
00:57 milleja46 and everyone tells you to contact your manafacturer
00:57 NekoGloop Then dont fuck anything up.
00:57 NekoGloop Kids these days.
00:58 milleja46 NekoGloop: a kid isn't 18 years old :P
00:58 M13_ Its not Pushing it
00:58 VanessaE M13_: did you git add .  (with the period) and then git commit -a
00:59 milleja46 VanessaE: or git add *
00:59 VanessaE either one works
00:59 M13_ yes
00:59 milleja46 ehh everywhere I've seen it done people use the *
00:59 VanessaE M13_: what does it do?
00:59 VanessaE error messages?
00:59 milleja46 M13_: remember add, then commit, then push
00:59 VanessaE pastebin
01:00 icallitvera i was taugh the .
01:01 milleja46 VanessaE: isn't what I just said the right workflow?
01:01 VanessaE yup
01:01 milleja46 that's what I thought :P
01:01 VanessaE make your changes and add your files, then git add .; git commit -a; git push -u
01:01 VanessaE (the -u is not mandatory, just there for clarity)
01:01 milleja46 but you always need a fork when working with a project and then send a pull request :P
01:02 VanessaE yup
01:02 VanessaE but for now he needs to just get his changes pushed
01:02 Octupus Любой хотел бы присоединиться к моему серверу?
01:02 VanessaE worry about pull-requesting later :-)
01:02 VanessaE Octupus: speak english please.
01:02 Octupus ^ ^russian
01:02 Octupus XD
01:02 milleja46 Octupus: I don't understand no foreign language besides maybe some spanish
01:03 OldCoder NekoGloop, you should be active
01:03 T_A_N_K http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/27844959.jpg
01:03 M13_ here
01:03 M13_ http://pastebin.com/mDBvi8WC
01:03 milleja46 T_A_N_K: o _ o ha ha ha
01:04 * milleja46 loves looking up memes about his old school
01:04 VanessaE M13_: you didn't give it a commit message
01:04 Octupus Используйте Google Translate
01:04 VanessaE "Aborting commit due to empty commit message."
01:04 M13_ What do I put
01:04 M13_ Minetest-m13 0.4.6?
01:04 VanessaE M13_: when you did git commit -a it gave you an editor and told you to give it a message.  Describe your commit
01:04 VanessaE explain in one or two sentences why you are commit'ing.
01:05 M13_ i get this
01:05 M13_ http://pastebin.com/mDBvi8WC
01:05 VanessaE decribe the changes you've made, features you've added, bugs you've fixed, whatever
01:05 M13_ not that
01:05 M13_ fatal: Paths with -a does not make sense.
01:05 M13_ that
01:05 VanessaE git commit -a
01:05 OldCoder Fear of commitment!
01:07 leo_rockw hello my blocky friends
01:07 Octupus марихуаны забавная вещь, чтобы курить
01:07 milleja46 T_A_N_K: this meme site is still funny http://www.hsmemes.com/locale/11160/Central-Academy-of-Technology-and-Arts don't even go there now and it's still funny :P
01:07 VanessaE Octupus: I'm not kidding - stick to english.
01:07 M13_ I get this
01:07 T_A_N_K lol
01:07 Octupus y
01:07 M13_ http://pastebin.com/uZYeajBG
01:08 VanessaE M13_: did you `git commit -a` first?
01:08 M13_ yea
01:08 M13_ and put my commit
01:08 leo_rockw Octupus might be using English... I forgot all my Cyrillic, so I can't be certain :S
01:08 VanessaE oh wait, step back one directory
01:08 VanessaE cd ..
01:08 M13_ ok
01:09 Octupus ?
01:09 VanessaE then git add .; git commit -a; git push
01:09 Octupus vannesa am i doing something wrong
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01:09 VanessaE Octupus: the language of this channel, like the forums, is English.  Please don't write in russian, most of us here can't understand it
01:09 Octupus im using google translate
01:09 milleja46 http://www.hsmemes.com/Y+U+No+Guy/tries-to-get-last-slice-of-pizza/367966 why he no do that right?
01:09 Octupus XD
01:09 VanessaE don't.  :-)
01:10 milleja46 I know that guy who did that and it's not done right
01:10 M13_ That dont work
01:10 Octupus la marihuana es una cosa divertida de fumar
01:10 Octupus can i tlk in spanish
01:10 VanessaE Octupus: ENGLISH.
01:10 Octupus lolz
01:10 VanessaE M13_: errors?
01:10 Octupus Weed is a fun thing to smoke
01:10 Octupus is what the russian and spanish thing says
01:11 Octupus im using home decor
01:11 Octupus once i found out the gives for it
01:11 VanessaE Octupus: use creative mode :-)  it's easier.
01:11 M13_ FUCK
01:12 M13_ this is stupid now its saying the .git is not there
01:12 milleja46 my...goodness...all these memes are horribly incorrect
01:12 VanessaE M13_: start over.
01:12 Octupus i dont want coder to go thrugh that truble again
01:12 leo_rockw milleja46: memes... they are doing it not right.
01:12 VanessaE delete your work directory.   Re-clone your repository, re-add your files, etc.
01:13 leo_rockw milleja46: there should be a new meme. Something like "Misinterpreting memes Megan"...
01:13 milleja46 leo_rockw: funny thing is I know half the guys on that, and people their messing it up, I know how that should be done and it's not right now XD
01:13 milleja46 http://www.hsmemes.com/The+Most+Interesting+Man+In+The+World/We-don-t-always-have-quot-special-Guests/366967 only correct one I've found XD
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01:14 M13_ Im getting this fucking error : fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git
01:14 NekoGloop Are you forgetting to put the .git extension?
01:15 VanessaE M13_: start over.  delete your broken work directory.   Re-clone your repository (git clone https://yaddayadda) , cd into the directory the clone created, re-add your files, git add .; git commit -a; git push -u
01:16 VanessaE I really can't explain it better than that.  that's the basics
01:18 M13_ Im getting this : http://pastebin.com/MVhWCMDS
01:19 VanessaE did you clone?
01:19 M13_ yes
01:19 VanessaE did you git add .  WITH THE PERIOD?
01:19 M13_ yes
01:19 VanessaE did you,  git commit -a
01:20 M13_ yes
01:20 VanessaE and give it a message?
01:20 M13_ yes
01:20 VanessaE ok, then you need to tell it where master is.  try this:    git remote set-url origin https://blahblahbla-your-repos
01:21 VanessaE then try to git push again.
01:22 M13_ same errors
01:22 VanessaE new paste please with the entire chain of commands you executes
01:22 VanessaE executed
01:23 VanessaE try this also:   git remote set-url --push origin https://blahblahblah-your-repos
01:23 VanessaE then git push
01:23 T_A_N_K created infinite item placement with a single node
01:23 M13_ http://pastebin.com/4S5Ef5zy
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01:24 VanessaE ok
01:24 M13_ same errors again
01:24 VanessaE M13_: try that second git remote command and then git push again.  MAKE SURE you are using the actual git address and not the page address
01:24 M13_ is this the git adress?
01:24 M13_
01:24 VanessaE the address displayed next to the [HTTP][Git Read-Only] buttons
01:25 M13_ https://github.com/madchicken13/Minetest-M13.git
01:25 M13_ ill screenshot
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01:25 VanessaE it should be, but then I don't even see that much here on my end
01:25 VanessaE I don't think you set the repos up properly
01:26 VanessaE no decription, no initial readme file, etc
01:26 VanessaE maybe you should delete it and start over from scratch
01:26 VanessaE when you created it, github gave you a series of commands to execute to initialize it
01:26 M13_ yes they are on the page
01:26 VanessaE show me
01:27 Mikeonline night all
01:27 VanessaE night mike
01:27 Mikeonline good evening too ;)
01:28 M13_ here is thescreenshot :  https://www.dropbox.com/lightbox/home/Photos?select=github.png#
01:28 M13_ is that it?
01:28 VanessaE M13_: that link asks me to sign in
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01:28 M13_ ok
01:28 M13_ here
01:28 M13_ ill link the download
01:28 M13_ https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Photos/github.png?w=ca9b37f1&amp;dl=1
01:29 M13_ there
01:29 VanessaE error 403.
01:29 khonkhortisan You don't belong there
01:29 VanessaE you probably marked the image as private or something
01:30 M13_ here try this : https://dl.dropbox.com/s/yuhpk3i2p11al1b/github.png?dl=1
01:30 VanessaE M13_: ok, so execute those commands :-)
01:30 M13_ so start over and do those commands
01:31 VanessaE yes
01:34 M13_ Those Commands Work compared to urs :-)
01:34 VanessaE that's because you have to do those commands first :-)
01:34 VanessaE imagine that - you followed the directions and it worked :D
01:35 VanessaE hey there we go
01:35 VanessaE now I see files in your repos
01:35 VanessaE now you've got it.
01:35 VanessaE from now on, make your changes, then cd into the Minetest-M13 directory and git add .; git commit -a; git push
01:38 VanessaE the problem was that you never finished initializing your repository
01:42 M13_ I use git commit -m "Commit Message"
01:42 VanessaE that works too
01:42 VanessaE I use that sometimes.
01:42 M13_ Thanks and can I upload files to?
01:43 VanessaE you just did :-)
01:43 VanessaE every time you add/commit/push, you are uploading files.
01:43 VanessaE so if you want to just share some random file you can do that too, though it's a good idea to restrict that to places like ompldr or so.
01:44 * milleja46 may be random in saying this but the fact that verizon and at&t no longer have unlimited data is so odd XD
01:46 M13_ I see
01:46 M13_ I can upload Binaries as Zip files in Downloads
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01:48 VanessaE yes
01:48 M13_ GitHub is easy
01:48 M13_ Vanessa
01:48 VanessaE told you it was :-)
01:48 M13_ how do i make tags?
01:48 VanessaE that I'm not sure of - that's not a feature I use
01:49 M13_ how about branches?
01:49 milleja46 M13_: that's called forks
01:49 milleja46 you fork on github not branch
01:50 M13_ it says Branch
01:50 M13_ https://github.com/madchicken13/Minetest-M13/branches
01:50 M13_ look ^^
01:50 milleja46 o_O not what I meant
01:50 milleja46 VanessaE: back me up here
01:51 VanessaE nono
01:51 M13_ I meant how do you make a new branch
01:51 VanessaE branches are different than forks
01:51 VanessaE but I don't remember how to use them
01:51 M13_ ok
01:51 M13_ Ill make a New Repo for Minetest-Awesominess :)
01:52 M13_ Vanessa is there Minetest 0.0.1 Source that i can find?
01:52 milleja46 M13_: just make one called Minetest_Improved :P
01:52 VanessaE the oldest MT source is on c55's github repos
01:52 VanessaE you just have to scan backwards to get to it
01:56 VanessaE bbl
01:56 VanessaE movie time
01:58 T_A_N_K i've done it!
01:58 T_A_N_K i've created a better creative mode
02:02 milleja46 M13_: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3329943/what-is-the-difference-between-branch-fork-fetch-merge-rebase-and-clone-in-g scroll down to the answer by durrant, according to it forks work a little better from what that answer says than branches on github :P and the idea of forks makes managing a project a lot easier...
02:04 M13_ thnx
02:06 T_A_N_K check out this baby http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=46131#p46131
02:14 khonkhortisan on github it has an automatic merge for forks, and you can use branches to separate what you want to merge and what you don't
02:14 khonkhortisan and you don't need permission to fork
02:25 T_A_N_K HMMM
02:25 T_A_N_K how do i get an inventory slot position
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02:26 NekoGloop Magic.
02:27 T_A_N_K no srsly guise. wehn i due geht tis samall keelobite uv enfurmayshun ey weil b aybull 2 muv awn wit diz gahym mowduh
02:27 T_A_N_K it took me so long to type that
02:28 NekoGloop And i have no idea what you just said.
02:29 T_A_N_K no, seriously guys, when i do get this smal kilobyte of information i will be able to move on with this game mode
02:30 leo_rockw T_A_N_K: xp mod is yours, right?
02:30 T_A_N_K yes, i am jordan4ibanez lol
02:30 leo_rockw is there a way to know, from the game, the amount of orbs one has?
02:31 T_A_N_K not yet, i can only do 10 things at a time
02:31 leo_rockw that's okay, I was just curious
02:31 leo_rockw I like the mod =]
02:31 leo_rockw with the XP mod and a specform an RPG game wouldn't be too hard to implement.
02:32 NekoGloop Formspec*
02:32 leo_rockw that, thanks.
02:32 T_A_N_K yea, too bad you cannot set the player's acceleration or their facedir, because with that you'd actually be able to set falsified "rpg cutscenes"
02:33 leo_rockw player's acceleration would be neat. Momentum too...
02:33 leo_rockw I'd like to see momentum when walking on snow biome's ice o.o
02:34 T_A_N_K leo rockway do you know how to get the position in the main inventory that the player is selected?
02:34 leo_rockw no, sorry
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02:35 T_A_N_K ahh here we are
02:35 T_A_N_K minetest.get_inventory(location)
02:36 NekoGloop But how to get location?
02:36 T_A_N_K that's the problem
02:36 T_A_N_K i don't think it's in the api
02:38 khonkhortisan what are you getting the inventory for?
02:38 T_A_N_K i want to get selected spot on placenode
02:38 T_A_N_K then set an item into that spot
02:38 T_A_N_K i know how to, i don't know the api or if it is capable
02:39 T_A_N_K the api function*
02:39 khonkhortisan minetest.register_on_placenode()?
02:39 NekoGloop I did it... Somehow...
02:39 T_A_N_K yep
02:39 T_A_N_K TELL MEEEEEEEEEeeeeEEEeeeEEeeeEEeeeEEeeeEeeeeEEeeeee
02:39 T_A_N_K my brain, it's become pooped
02:39 NekoGloop Not at computer
02:40 NekoGloop And said code is on my computer.
02:40 T_A_N_K what mod?
02:40 NekoGloop And i uninstalled my remote desktop thingy
02:40 NekoGloop And i never uploaded it
02:40 T_A_N_K i call bluffing
02:41 khonkhortisan minetest.get_inventory({type = "player", name=placer:get_player_name()}) or placer:get_inventory()
02:41 NekoGloop I did my alchemy thing with a node that when placed, it returns instantly to player inv.
02:41 NekoGloop khonkhortisan: He means to get the selected quickslot
02:41 T_A_N_K did you use setwield item to do that nekogloop?
02:42 NekoGloop No.
02:42 T_A_N_K all the slots are are slot positions
02:42 T_A_N_K numbers 1, 32
02:42 T_A_N_K i just want to get the number selected
02:42 khonkhortisan get_wielded_item? get_wield_list?
02:42 T_A_N_K get wielded position
02:42 khonkhortisan I git stashed something that did that and stored it in node meta
02:42 T_A_N_K so i can add a node to that position
02:43 khonkhortisan I did meta:set_int(puncher:get_player_name(), puncher:get_wield_index())
02:43 T_A_N_K that'll work, maybe
02:44 khonkhortisan that'll only work for the top row of the inventory
02:44 T_A_N_K GOOD!
02:44 khonkhortisan 1-8 I think
02:44 T_A_N_K what is set_int?
02:44 khonkhortisan storing a number in the rubik's cube node
02:44 khonkhortisan puncher:get_wield_index() is the part you need
02:45 T_A_N_K now did you actually add add in an item into the player's inventory with this?
02:45 khonkhortisan no.
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02:46 T_A_N_K time for hax
02:46 khonkhortisan are you trying to make it an infinite stack?
02:46 NekoGloop Meow.
02:46 T_A_N_K yes, well essentially
02:46 T_A_N_K you place a node, the server then refills that slot instantly
02:47 khonkhortisan So if you drop from your second stack of dirt, you don't want it adding to your first stack of dirt
02:47 T_A_N_K exactly
02:47 khonkhortisan And if you drop the last item of the stack, you want it to remember what you dropped-
02:47 khonkhortisan *dropped
02:47 T_A_N_K yes, but i already have that part
02:50 T_A_N_K OH
02:50 T_A_N_K my shop mod does this
02:50 T_A_N_K inv:set_stack("main", i, srcstack)
02:50 khonkhortisan So I can write an example, are you using puncher, player, digger?
02:50 T_A_N_K man i'm f***ing retarded
02:51 khonkhortisan puncher:get_wielded_item():set_size(puncher:get_wield_index(), puncher:get_wielded_item():get_count())
02:54 T_A_N_K finally! it all works! and thank you anyways khonkhortisan
02:54 khonkhortisan you're welcome anyways
02:57 T_A_N_K FINALLY creative mode is not sloppy any more! it finally feels kind of cool
02:58 khonkhortisan so the stuff isn't jumping back and forth when you try to move it?
02:58 T_A_N_K nope! :D
02:58 T_A_N_K try it out, it's pretty neat
02:59 khonkhortisan where?
02:59 T_A_N_K in my fancy game mode
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02:59 T_A_N_K you put creative=true in your minetest.con
02:59 T_A_N_K minetest.conf*
02:59 khonkhortisan ?
02:59 khonkhortisan the checkbox doesn't work?
03:01 T_A_N_K what doesn't work?
03:01 khonkhortisan the button when you start the server
03:01 T_A_N_K oh you mean the left and right buttons?
03:01 khonkhortisan I got the zip version, more trouble to update
03:02 T_A_N_K why not just delete the old version and replace it?
03:02 khonkhortisan I don't know where it is
03:02 T_A_N_K O.o
03:03 khonkhortisan http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3174 ?
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03:04 xcgurl08 hi is anyone there
03:04 T_A_N_K ok moved it to the top
03:04 xcgurl08 HEY TANK
03:04 xcgurl08 can you help me lol
03:05 T_A_N_K hi xc
03:05 T_A_N_K maybe, can i have 50034, 23 dollars
03:05 xcgurl08 why is it that cobblestone that's already in the game looks different than cobblestone that I mine and place
03:05 T_A_N_K i honestly have no idea how to answer that, can i have a screen shot?
03:06 xcgurl08 okay...
03:06 xcgurl08 wha'ts your email
03:06 xcgurl08 lol
03:06 khonkhortisan Because you mine stone and place cobblestone
03:06 khonkhortisan If you smelt cobblestone in a cobblestone furnace, it'll turn back into stone
03:06 xcgurl08 no
03:06 xcgurl08 when I mine stone, it says cobblestone
03:06 xcgurl08 I mean
03:07 xcgurl08 when I mine, it says cobblestone
03:07 xcgurl08 does that make sense
03:07 xcgurl08 lol
03:07 khonkhortisan it's stone until it's dug. Then it's cobblestone until it's smelted
03:07 xcgurl08 you can smelt cobblestone?
03:07 xcgurl08 into what
03:07 khonkhortisan back into stone
03:07 xcgurl08 oh
03:07 xcgurl08 that seems rather pointless
03:08 xcgurl08 why would you want to do that when cobblestone looks so..wait
03:08 xcgurl08 why does it turn into cobblestone just because you mined it
03:08 khonkhortisan if you wanted to hide that you dug somewhere you would put stone back
03:08 khonkhortisan because it turns into little stones and you glue them back together to get a block of it
03:08 xcgurl08 why would you want to hide that you dug somewhere
03:09 xcgurl08 ...you glue them back together?
03:09 khonkhortisan because it always shows where you mine because of placing cobble
03:09 xcgurl08 you're being sarcastic right
03:09 xcgurl08 but whyyy would you want to hide it
03:09 khonkhortisan some of the crafting recipes don't make sense
03:09 xcgurl08 is there some like..
03:09 xcgurl08 enderman looking to find where you mined
03:09 xcgurl08 and then once he finds it, he can magically teleport to where you are
03:09 xcgurl08 and kill you?
03:09 T_A_N_K celeron would like slap me if he ever looked at my game mode
03:10 khonkhortisan if you accidentally took out a wall of your underground stone house, and don't want a block of cobblestone staring you down for the rest of your life, proving you're a failure at digging out an underground house
03:10 khonkhortisan that's why
03:10 xcgurl08 because that's the only plausible situation I can think of when you would want to hide where you dug
03:10 xcgurl08 you can make an underground house?
03:10 xcgurl08 I did not know this
03:10 xcgurl08 though I intend to hollow out a mountain and make that part of my house
03:10 xcgurl08 lol
03:10 khonkhortisan well depends on what you mean by house
03:10 khonkhortisan there's a nice furniture mod too
03:10 xcgurl08 a furniture mod?
03:10 xcgurl08 btw..
03:10 xcgurl08 I cannot figure out how to make a bed to save my life
03:11 khonkhortisan beds come with a mod, they're not default
03:11 xcgurl08 when you say nice furniture mod..
03:11 xcgurl08 do you mean the mod is nice
03:11 xcgurl08 or the mod makes the furniture look nicer
03:11 khonkhortisan furniture is better than blocks
03:11 xcgurl08 what
03:11 xcgurl08 you build your house out of furniture?
03:12 khonkhortisan ¿ I've never tried that
03:12 xcgurl08 but you said furniture is better than blocks
03:12 khonkhortisan a single chair node is better than building a chair out of multiple cube nodes
03:12 xcgurl08 why would you build a chair out of multiple cube nodes
03:12 xcgurl08 that wouldn't even look right
03:13 khonkhortisan Because of not knowing about the furniture mod
03:13 xcgurl08 is anyone here...possibly like...have a medical background
03:13 xcgurl08 btw, I still don't understand mods completely
03:13 khonkhortisan Would you, by any chance, happen to know someone whose name abbreviates to LM?
03:13 xcgurl08 I understand a little...based off of what tank told me
03:13 xcgurl08 no
03:13 xcgurl08 why?
03:14 khonkhortisan one of your ip numbers is similar
03:14 xcgurl08 >_>
03:14 xcgurl08 do you know this person
03:14 khonkhortisan no
03:15 khonkhortisan some people here don't like him
03:15 xcgurl08 oh
03:15 xcgurl08 the only people I've met are tank and..this other guy whose name starts with c..like old coder or something like that
03:15 xcgurl08 you know what
03:15 xcgurl08 I wish trees respawned
03:16 xcgurl08 and tank, I have cut down a lot of leaves and I have not found a single apple
03:18 T_A_N_K hun, this isn't minecraft
03:18 xcgurl08 you said there were apples...
03:19 T_A_N_K yes, on apple trees
03:19 T_A_N_K stop looking at the minecraft wiki lol
03:19 xcgurl08 I'm looking at the minetest wiki
03:19 xcgurl08 I haven't found any apple trees...
03:21 khonkhortisan dig the trunk only. The leaves will disappear and some of them will drop saplings.
03:22 khonkhortisan Plant the saplings. Some of the trees will grow with apples.
03:22 xcgurl08 oooh
03:22 xcgurl08 I've been using the saplings for fuel
03:22 khonkhortisan ahahahaha
03:22 khonkhortisan I use leaves for fuel
03:22 xcgurl08 but the saplings are better fuel than the leaves...
03:22 khonkhortisan but you're supposed to use coal I think
03:23 xcgurl08 it uses up like 3 units of leaves for each unit produced
03:23 khonkhortisan saplings are better when you plant them and use the whole tree as fuel
03:23 xcgurl08 and it produces 2 units for every sapling unit
03:23 xcgurl08 how do you plant a sapling
03:24 leo_rockw the apples are visible, they don't drop from the leaves when you dig the leaves.
03:24 khonkhortisan right click
03:24 xcgurl08 I haven't seen any apples
03:24 xcgurl08 not a single apple
03:24 khonkhortisan the same way you place everything else
03:24 xcgurl08 I've looked and looked and looked
03:24 khonkhortisan plant about ten trees, and wait one game day.
03:24 xcgurl08 all over
03:24 leo_rockw xcgurl08: they grow over time
03:24 xcgurl08 and not a single apple
03:24 xcgurl08 how long do they take to grow?
03:25 khonkhortisan I believe apple trees aren't created with the world anymore.
03:25 xcgurl08 ...what
03:25 khonkhortisan Anywhere to a few seconds to a few minutes?
03:25 khonkhortisan You have to plant your own apple trees
03:25 xcgurl08 oh
03:25 xcgurl08 how do you get apple saplings
03:25 khonkhortisan there's only one kind of sapling if you don't have mods
03:25 khonkhortisan which add banana and cocoa saplings
03:26 xcgurl08 but what about apple saplings?
03:26 khonkhortisan tree saplings have a chance of growing apple trees
03:26 xcgurl08 okay I really need someone with medical experience...
03:26 khonkhortisan why medical?
03:26 xcgurl08 my vagina is killing me
03:26 khonkhortisan apples for health?
03:27 khonkhortisan the channel topic isn't related to that
03:27 xcgurl08 I know
03:27 xcgurl08 oh no
03:27 xcgurl08 something happened
03:28 xcgurl08 I got out of my house and this popup window appeared
03:28 xcgurl08 and my pickaxe started mining by itself
03:28 khonkhortisan ?
03:28 khonkhortisan your mouse is acting up?
03:28 xcgurl08 it says..
03:28 xcgurl08 CM: animated meshes
03:28 xcgurl08 CM: animated meshes (far)
03:28 khonkhortisan Click in the window and press Esc?
03:28 xcgurl08 CM: blocks drawn
03:28 khonkhortisan I forget the button for that
03:29 xcgurl08 I figured it out
03:29 xcgurl08 yay
03:29 khonkhortisan F6
03:29 khonkhortisan hey, there's a screenshot button!
03:30 xcgurl08 are you being sarcastic again
03:30 khonkhortisan You know your patch is simple when you can explain it using only two pictures and no text
03:30 khonkhortisan I've been running a separate snapshot program
03:31 xcgurl08 oh
03:31 khonkhortisan Yes I will be sarcastic but that wasn't
03:31 khonkhortisan I try to make it obvious
03:32 xcgurl08 btw..what country are you from
03:32 khonkhortisan western USA
03:32 xcgurl08 what does khonkhortisan mean
03:32 xcgurl08 it sounds like kazakhstan
03:32 khonkhortisan Washington not-dc
03:33 xcgurl08 lol I wonder if I'm making all these people leave
03:33 khonkhortisan It's a combination of konqueror the web/file browser, conquistador, the -san symbol of respect, and the naming style of the characters in the game Soulfu.
03:34 khonkhortisan It's very unique, and lets me live on the internet as an avatar :P
03:34 xcgurl08 ah...
03:34 khonkhortisan I always call that one country krgybrgystan
03:34 xcgurl08 do you live near seattle?
03:34 khonkhortisan north of it, yes
03:35 xcgurl08 what's ksea like?
03:35 xcgurl08 I've always wondered
03:35 khonkhortisan ksea?
03:35 xcgurl08 sea-tac
03:35 khonkhortisan tall buildings, traffic, too much business for me. The freeway is wide.
03:35 xcgurl08 I'm referring to the airport
03:36 khonkhortisan The parking has spirals on the sides
03:37 xcgurl08 ooh that's cool
03:38 khonkhortisan http://seattletravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/seatac-airport1.jpg
03:38 xcgurl08 I wish you could change the color of the furnace...
03:39 xcgurl08 it's very hard to distinguish from the floor
03:39 khonkhortisan you're supposed to put it in the wall
03:39 khonkhortisan along with the chest
03:39 xcgurl08 IN the wall?
03:39 xcgurl08 how?
03:39 khonkhortisan dig a hole in the wall, place the furnace there
03:39 xcgurl08 I swear there is a glitch every time I play this game
03:40 khonkhortisan like what?
03:40 xcgurl08 I cannot move the chest because every time I try to destroy it so it shows up in my inventory, it pops up again
03:41 khonkhortisan you have to take _everything_ out of it to move it, unless you have the worldedit or mesecon (or technic?) mods
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03:41 khonkhortisan chests only move while empty
03:41 xcgurl08 there is nothing in it
03:42 khonkhortisan sometimes there's lag where stuff comes back
03:42 khonkhortisan because the client couldn't tell that the server got the message
03:42 xcgurl08 wait why would you want to be able to make the chest part of the wall
03:42 xcgurl08 doesn't that defeat the point
03:42 khonkhortisan if your wall is two thick it works, or if you put it under the stairway to the second floor
03:43 khonkhortisan or just against the wall like a bookcase
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03:43 xcgurl08 how do you make stairs?
03:43 xcgurl08 I saw that you could make slabs..
03:43 xcgurl08 for stairs
03:43 xcgurl08 but that isn't very explanatory
03:43 khonkhortisan three on the bottom row, two on the middle row, one on the top row
03:43 xcgurl08 what
03:43 xcgurl08 I don't get it
03:44 khonkhortisan craft three-step stairs
03:44 T_A_N_K now i am happy with creative mode, i hope to see a server with it soon
03:44 khonkhortisan http://www.minecraft-craftingguide.com/images/Crafting-stairs.gif
03:45 xcgurl08 OOOH
03:45 xcgurl08 so if you make two floors, how many of those do you need
03:45 khonkhortisan you place them the same way you would as if you didn't have them
03:45 khonkhortisan still a 1-to-1 slope
03:45 khonkhortisan how tall is your room?
03:45 xcgurl08 well the thing is
03:45 xcgurl08 I want to bulid it down
03:46 xcgurl08 build
03:46 xcgurl08 does that make sense
03:46 xcgurl08 like right now my room is at the top of the mountain
03:46 xcgurl08 and I want to build down into the mountain
03:46 khonkhortisan One will be in your floor, then however tall your room is is how many you'll need past that
03:47 xcgurl08 ok
03:47 khonkhortisan for a 2-tall room you'll need 3. For a four-tall room you'll need 5
03:47 xcgurl08 so basically each stair is equal to 1 block
03:47 khonkhortisan yes, unless you use slabs or quarter slabs
03:47 xcgurl08 so what I don't get yet is..
03:47 xcgurl08 what is the point of this game
03:48 khonkhortisan Because mods were removed from the game this version, there isn't really a survival mode. The point is to build, like with legos. Or for some people, the purpose is to destroy what other people made.
03:49 khonkhortisan *Because mobs were removed...
03:51 xcgurl08 I got apples, yay!
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03:51 khonkhortisan good. There's just one thing you should know, it's easy to accidentally eat apples when you try to place something without realizing what you're holding
03:51 xcgurl08 hey does lava exist in this game?
03:52 NekoGloop Yes.
03:52 leo_rockw xcgurl08: there isn't really a point...
03:52 xcgurl08 can you still create a portal to the networld then?
03:52 xcgurl08 nether
03:52 NekoGloop Dig down; you find it in underground pools.
03:52 leo_rockw I think there was a nether mod
03:52 NekoGloop No there is no fucking nether.
03:52 xcgurl08 oh
03:52 xcgurl08 :(
03:52 xcgurl08 then what's the point of lava
03:53 NekoGloop To have lava?
03:53 leo_rockw there are cobblestone generators
03:53 leo_rockw and there's an obsidian mod
03:53 khonkhortisan there's a minetest nether mod
03:53 NekoGloop If he's in vanilla minetest he can't make cobble generators, you know this.
03:53 xcgurl08 I'm a girl....
03:54 leo_rockw NekoGloop: oh, I thought it was in vanilla
03:54 xcgurl08 what's a cobble generator
03:54 khonkhortisan neko joined later and didn't get that information
03:54 NekoGloop And i'm supposed to know this how?
03:54 leo_rockw khonkhortisan: the nickname is a giveaway
03:54 xcgurl08 my username is xcGURL
03:54 khonkhortisan lava source and water source flowing at eachother
03:54 leo_rockw NekoGloop: "gurl"
03:54 khonkhortisan oh.
03:54 NekoGloop To me your name looked like a jumble of letters, sorry.
03:54 xcgurl08 lol
03:54 khonkhortisan I just see a jumble of letters, too
03:54 leo_rockw I thought cobblestone generator was in vanilla
03:54 xcgurl08 oh my
03:54 xcgurl08 really?
03:55 leo_rockw I know it's in skyblockk
03:55 leo_rockw block*
03:55 xcgurl08 what's skyblock??
03:55 khonkhortisan you start in the air
03:55 NekoGloop It's in skyblock because it has to be.
03:55 xcgurl08 btw, can you build on top of clouds
03:55 leo_rockw it's a mod with an air island
03:55 NekoGloop Now stop confusing the poor person.
03:55 xcgurl08 what is a cobblestone generator
03:55 leo_rockw NekoGloop: I THOUGHT it was part of vanilla.
03:55 xcgurl08 and what is vanilla
03:55 xcgurl08 what is vanilla?!?!?!
03:55 NekoGloop Vanilla == minetest with no mods.
03:55 khonkhortisan there's sky clouds and cloud blocks, two separate things. You can't get buildable cloud normally.
03:55 leo_rockw vanilla is the default game without mods
03:56 leo_rockw oh, cloud blocks can be mined?
03:56 khonkhortisan You will hear the word vanilla used in this sense in the future
03:56 khonkhortisan cloud blocks can be taken out of the creative inventory
03:56 xcgurl08 oh
03:56 NekoGloop Cobblestone generator == something you cant do in vanilla minetest.
03:56 xcgurl08 I have inventory plus mod...
03:56 xcgurl08 WHY DID HE LEAVE
03:56 xcgurl08 NO
03:56 xcgurl08 D:
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03:57 NekoGloop Ok, so i assume you know how to install mods then?
03:57 khonkhortisan my keyboard spazzed out and killed xchat
03:57 khonkhortisan ctrl-something
03:57 NekoGloop khonkhortisan: alt+F4, maybe?
03:57 xcgurl08 oh yay he's back
03:57 xcgurl08 umm
03:57 xcgurl08 I know how to add mods...
03:57 NekoGloop xcgurl08: Good.
03:58 xcgurl08 but I don't quite dependencies
03:58 xcgurl08 quite get*
03:58 xcgurl08 like I added the home mod and it didn't work at first
03:58 xcgurl08 it crashed my game
03:58 NekoGloop Can we continue this in private chat so we are not interrupted?
03:58 xcgurl08 and then I found out I needed the inventory plus mod
03:58 khonkhortisan ctrl-q where your ctrl-x is
03:58 T_A_N_K goodnight
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03:59 khonkhortisan (a urinary tract infection is a possibility)
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04:24 khonkhortisan still there?
04:26 OldCoder
04:26 OldCoder Hi
04:26 OldCoder Servers going down for backups
04:27 OldCoder Servers started again
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04:36 ecube what server
04:36 khonkhortisan all ten of them
04:36 leo_rockw I am still here
04:37 khonkhortisan gurl went quiet
04:37 leo_rockw she left
04:38 khonkhortisan how do I find your server list if you're not here to give a link?
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04:38 khonkhortisan wowiammithril
04:39 khonkhortisan found it
04:39 wowiamdiamonds wowyouarekhonkhortisan
04:39 leo_rockw I've never seen mithril o.o
04:39 leo_rockw I barely play any MT, though.
04:39 khonkhortisan it's only 500 down
04:39 OldCoder ecube, I run 10 servers; just backed them up
04:39 leo_rockw yeah, I never reach that far down
04:39 khonkhortisan http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/index.html
04:39 OldCoder khonkhortisan, hi
04:39 OldCoder That is the link
04:39 khonkhortisan dig straight down with a water tunnel
04:40 khonkhortisan mine any caves you see, go straight through any lava you come across
04:40 leo_rockw I have the oxygen mod, so I can't really do that
04:40 khonkhortisan you'll have plenty of ores
04:40 khonkhortisan that's just a challenge
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04:40 khonkhortisan water spiral staircase?
04:40 leo_rockw that would work, I guess
04:41 leo_rockw or I could just make steel tools as required
04:41 leo_rockw and never get mithril o.o
04:46 khonkhortisan you should get gold and copper and whatever copper goes with and that other light gray/blue one
04:46 khonkhortisan Anyone build anything good on skyblock?
04:47 khonkhortisan VanessaE, you're on my property
04:48 khonkhortisan :P
04:48 leo_rockw khonkhortisan: bronze.
04:49 leo_rockw I mean, you need tin for it, but you get bronze.
04:49 * khonkhortisan really wants copper blocks
04:51 khonkhortisan I don't know where to get skyblock coal lumps from
04:52 leo_rockw doesn't it have charcoal mod included?
04:53 khonkhortisan some people are on level 3 and I'm 9/10 on level 1
04:54 leo_rockw I haven't played since levels were included
04:54 khonkhortisan I don't know where to get more lava
04:54 khonkhortisan other than stealing it from people
04:56 khonkhortisan I move the tree from the bottom to the top and it just disappears
04:56 * VanessaE is back
04:57 VanessaE regarding coal, you get it by crafting smooth stone + coal = core ore, which you then dig.  each craft gives back 2 coal, so you have to multiply it over time
04:57 VanessaE similar for iron
04:57 OldCoder Zzz
04:57 VanessaE that's why you keep all the leaves, to use them as fuel while you build up your stock of coal
04:57 khonkhortisan oh.
04:57 VanessaE also, I just built where I spawned at :-)
04:58 khonkhortisan So I would've lost if I used my coal
04:58 khonkhortisan Do I steal the lava or does it give me more?
04:58 VanessaE you have to take it, good idea to store some for later in case you die
05:02 khonkhortisan What are the coordinates to Mazebint?
05:03 VanessaE who?
05:03 khonkhortisan 30005
05:03 VanessaE haven't used that server
05:07 khonkhortisan trampolines are dangerous
05:07 VanessaE yup
05:08 VanessaE crank one of those to max and start bouncing. :-)
05:08 VanessaE but be sure you have a cushion nearby ;-)
05:08 khonkhortisan I placed lots of them under me while bouncing and my screen got stuck red
05:08 khonkhortisan I can't do anything
05:08 VanessaE oops
05:09 khonkhortisan it might be stuck in a kill-me loop
05:09 VanessaE lag?
05:09 khonkhortisan can't turn, have no hearts, screen is staying red, can't open inventory, no escape
05:09 VanessaE I've noticed that of my test world lately, because of bas080's jungletrees mod.  Takes a few seconds after the world appears before the server responds to my actions
05:09 khonkhortisan screen doesn't update, it's a freeze
05:09 VanessaE that's a server crash
05:10 khonkhortisan cool
05:10 khonkhortisan I dragged a terminal over minetest and it stayed there
05:10 khonkhortisan now it's crashing because it's trying to steal the screen from the other minetest
05:10 VanessaE lol
05:10 khonkhortisan xkill takes care of that
05:11 VanessaE time for killall -KILL xxxx
05:11 VanessaE :-)
05:11 khonkhortisan
05:11 khonkhortisan I get the you died message after connecting
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05:13 khonkhortisan ha! second rejoin I recovered
05:14 khonkhortisan If you die on a trampoline your screen still blinks red
05:14 khonkhortisan haha I can cheat by dying, bouncing, and respawning. I get thrown up when I spawn
05:15 khonkhortisan don't run at a trampoline, you also get stuck
05:16 anunakki think i'm gonna have to setup a public server
05:16 anunakki i cant find any good ones :(
05:16 khonkhortisan develan.com:30007
05:16 anunakki ty
05:16 anunakki <3
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05:34 khonkhortisan 30007 has creative but no /giveme. what gives?
05:40 VanessaE well the server apparently doesn't anyway
05:40 VanessaE ;)
05:40 khonkhortisan I want wool stairs, can't make an asphalt road without it
05:40 VanessaE bug calinou :-)
05:41 khonkhortisan I already have, one pull request merged, two on the way and one issue.
05:41 VanessaE I thought of adding some basic slabs/stairs out of wool for homedecor to use for couches/chairs but decided against it
05:43 khonkhortisan I'm waiting on inclusion of right-handed half stairs for a walkable sierpinski pyramid
05:44 khonkhortisan And with quarter slabs you can run down a hill without getting hurt
05:44 khonkhortisan ooh, a gloopore!
05:45 khonkhortisan the extra-size railroad on redcrab has inspired me to make an extra-size road
05:46 VanessaE railroad?
05:46 VanessaE where?
05:46 khonkhortisan http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.png
05:46 khonkhortisan top-left, with a dashed line trying to get to the spawn
05:46 VanessaE I see it
05:46 VanessaE I wondered what that was
05:46 khonkhortisan 8 nodes wide
05:47 khonkhortisan gravel and four-long logs with stone panels for rail
05:47 VanessaE nice
05:47 VanessaE that had to have taken a massive amount of gravel
05:49 khonkhortisan how long should I make those white dashed lane dividers on the road?
05:50 VanessaE how wide is the road?
05:50 VanessaE will-it-be
05:50 khonkhortisan the double-yellow line is 3, with 4 gray on the sides, so 11
05:50 khonkhortisan the railroad is only 8
05:51 khonkhortisan I'm on coder's open server
05:51 VanessaE mmm
05:51 VanessaE well you'll need to widen it to 5 on each side, then you can make it a proper 4-lane road then
05:51 khonkhortisan and it takes soo long to go from a pickaxe to wool in the creative inventory
05:51 VanessaE make the dashed lines 3 long
05:51 khonkhortisan if it's four lanes how wide is the lane?
05:52 VanessaE 2
05:52 khonkhortisan the center yellow line takes 3, the dimensions wouldn't be right.
05:52 VanessaE so W G G W G G Y G Y G G W G G W
05:52 VanessaE White, grey, Yellow
05:52 VanessaE hrm
05:52 khonkhortisan I have infinite materials
05:52 VanessaE well make the lanes 3 wide then (plus the stripes)
05:53 VanessaE W GGG W GGG YGY GGG W GGG W
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05:53 khonkhortisan I'm using dark gray
05:53 VanessaE that's far wider than you planned but the proportions would look right anyway
05:53 VanessaE ok dark grey then :-)
05:53 khonkhortisan I want it to be wide
05:54 VanessaE a player usually needs 3 nodes wide for an elevated road to be safe, so 3-node-wide lanes sounds right to me
05:54 VanessaE (plus the stripes)
05:55 khonkhortisan if I'm not paying attention I act like a drunk driver on a three-wide elevated road, making square turns on a straight road.
05:55 VanessaE haha
05:55 VanessaE maybe you should put a line of glass wall slabs down on top of the stripes ;)
05:56 RealBadAngel dont forget the lane for bikes
05:56 khonkhortisan I'll add the white lines on the sides too
05:56 khonkhortisan then I'd have to draw a bike symbol
05:56 RealBadAngel morning :)
05:56 khonkhortisan not for two more hours
05:56 VanessaE hi RBA
05:57 khonkhortisan those trees are so small compared to my road
05:57 RealBadAngel what a beautifull morning we have today
05:57 RealBadAngel i can smell weekend in the air
05:57 VanessaE khonkhortisan: think of them as bushes :-)
05:58 khonkhortisan I'm developing rules for the height of the road on varying height terrain. I'm settling on the height of the ground at the lowest point on the line across the road
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05:59 VanessaE tht works
05:59 VanessaE Calinou: add wool stairs/slabs/etc plz ;-)
05:59 VanessaE khonkhortisan: ninja'd :D
05:59 Calinou hi :P
05:59 khonkhortisan oh hi
05:59 khonkhortisan I have three issues for you
05:59 * Calinou read some channel logs yesterday, his internet was down
05:59 * Calinou needs to fix the moreores pickaxe names
06:00 RealBadAngel why?
06:02 Calinou done
06:03 VanessaE Calinou: seen the latest homedecor?
06:05 Calinou no
06:05 Calinou now I seen it :P
06:07 VanessaE :P
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06:12 VanessaE hi cornernote
06:13 cornernote hey V
06:13 khonkhortisan I can't see whether you pulled my branch or not, can I?
06:14 cornernote changelog ?
06:14 khonkhortisan between when someone looks at my branch and when they upload the merge
06:16 Calinou khonkhortisan: merged the pull request about plankstone and checkers
06:16 khonkhortisan Isn't that a great description?
06:17 khonkhortisan I couldn't figure out bricks
06:17 Calinou you're not using UV maps, btw, just rotated textures
06:18 khonkhortisan close enough :)
06:19 khonkhortisan I like the admin pickaxe
06:33 khonkhortisan hey my page autoupdated to closed, it interrupted me from asphalt-pouring
06:36 khonkhortisan I guess a road doesn't have to be flat sideways if it doesn't have to be flat forward
06:44 VanessaE there.
06:44 VanessaE Now homedecor can make its own white paint for the items therein that need it (compatible/interchangeable with unified dyes)
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06:45 khonkhortisan I was looking at the last issue, and it updated to closed but the number of issues didn't update with it.
06:46 VanessaE odd
06:48 khonkhortisan maybe I shouldn't assume people know which side of the road to drive on
06:48 VanessaE good idea :-)
06:49 VanessaE might have a few crazy Britons try to use the wrong side :D
06:50 khonkhortisan in any large-scale construction project, you start to realize a stack doesn't go far
06:50 VanessaE /giveme wool:dark_gray 9999
06:50 VanessaE :-)
06:50 khonkhortisan no /giveme, only creative
06:50 VanessaE (or however the node name is spelled)
06:50 VanessaE oh
06:51 VanessaE well at least all the wool colors are confined to the last two pages
06:51 khonkhortisan huh. What if I just placed the wool where the land was and didn't try to flatten it?
06:51 khonkhortisan nah, that'd be too bumpy
06:51 VanessaE no
06:51 VanessaE definitely not
06:51 VanessaE flat roads are good :-)
06:52 VanessaE unless you wanna get creative and bend around/over mountains and such
06:52 VanessaE build a length of US Route 66 or something :-)
06:52 khonkhortisan where do screenshots go?
06:52 VanessaE "It moved with the land, you know?  It rose, it fell, it curved."
06:53 VanessaE I use my personal webspace for screenshots, others seem to like ompldr etc
06:53 khonkhortisan I mean F12
06:53 VanessaE oh
06:53 VanessaE by default, the current directory you started the client from
06:53 VanessaE you can tweak minetest.conf to set a specific path if you want
06:53 VanessaE screenshot_path = /home/you  etc.
06:54 khonkhortisan /src/minetest/bin/..
06:54 VanessaE nono
06:54 khonkhortisan http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/8055927547/in/photostream
06:54 VanessaE defaults to your cwd.
06:54 khonkhortisan so bin/minetest is .
06:55 VanessaE nice.  Suggestion:  use another color, maybe just sand or sandstone, for the shoulders.
06:55 VanessaE but now that I think about it, don't make it hilly at all.
06:55 VanessaE keep it flat or wait for Calinou to add wool stairs
06:57 Calinou wool stairs would add a lot of node definitions :/ there are a lot already
06:57 VanessaE so? :-)
06:57 khonkhortisan for all the colors
06:57 VanessaE we have node defs to burn :-)
06:57 khonkhortisan so we need to categorize our creative inventory and it will be less of a problem
06:58 VanessaE khonkhortisan: I suggested that ages ago.  No one listened.
06:58 VanessaE Calinou: we do need wool stairs/slabs/etc.
06:58 Calinou <VanessaE> we have node defs to burn :-) < 4096, and if you have mesecons and technic, a lot of them are used
06:59 VanessaE mesecons uses about 125 or so nodes.  technic slightly less.
06:59 Calinou 27 nodes for a type of block in stairsplus... fair enough, but that'll still slow down game loading :P
06:59 VanessaE not really
06:59 VanessaE most of that data stays on the server
06:59 Calinou when you play singleplayer
07:00 VanessaE all the client receives is the node defs, but the textures are already there
07:00 VanessaE eh, true.  Oh well
07:00 VanessaE blame c55 for his braindead extrude routine :-)
07:04 Calinou mod question: how can I know which face of a node someone is pointing (bottom/top/side)?
07:05 VanessaE oh hell you would ask today
07:05 VanessaE just the day before yesterday I was playing with that function
07:05 RealBadAngel VanessaE, wrong. technic now uses circa 500 nodes
07:05 VanessaE RealBadAngel: holy moly
07:05 VanessaE ok 500 nodes.
07:06 VanessaE Calinou: minetest.dir_to_facedir(placer:get_look_dir())
07:06 VanessaE (I use it in my doors code)
07:07 VanessaE fdir = minetest.dir_to_facedir(placer:get_look_dir()), then param2=fdir when you say, add_node()
07:07 Calinou yeah but, that's looking direction, not the face of a node you're pointing to...
07:07 VanessaE OH
07:07 RealBadAngel ive added just 3 new kinds of wires
07:07 VanessaE get the node def, then extract param2
07:07 VanessaE get_node().param2 or so
07:07 RealBadAngel that itself is 3*64
07:09 RealBadAngel and im lookin for a way to apply colors (16) on tubes
07:09 RealBadAngel to indicate the filters
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07:10 RealBadAngel same as i did with gold chests
07:10 RealBadAngel which is actually scary a bit
07:11 RealBadAngel that could mean 64*16 nodes
07:11 RealBadAngel or we could go for this:
07:12 RealBadAngel https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tree/meta_set_nodedef
07:13 RealBadAngel which could bring us back to single node definitions again
07:14 RealBadAngel the code is *almost* working
07:14 RealBadAngel have some glitches
07:14 Calinou node definitions are "created" on the go actually
07:14 Calinou still better than having a fuffton of node definitions at loading
07:15 RealBadAngel i think no
07:15 Calinou RealBadAngel: omg! c55 committed "Something"!
07:15 Calinou :P
07:15 RealBadAngel this way we get rid of thousands of extra nodes
07:15 RealBadAngel just by allowing to change on the fly
07:16 RealBadAngel so furnace will be just one node again
07:16 RealBadAngel and all the tubes, wires and so on
07:16 RealBadAngel each object
07:17 RealBadAngel make grass, leaves weaving
07:17 RealBadAngel anythin just by changin textures on the fly
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07:18 RealBadAngel engine is capable to do so
07:18 RealBadAngel minetest is just restricted to not to use it
07:30 RealBadAngel VanessaE, maybe you would like it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el9OFZ9UWbs
07:30 RealBadAngel future of homedecor :)
07:32 RealBadAngel courtessy of Irhlicht engine
07:37 Calinou stairsplus now has slab/quarter slab merging :D
07:37 Calinou see git repo
07:37 Calinou have to go now
07:39 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W84gFvTVRb4
07:39 RealBadAngel here comes the question why we cant have 3d players
07:40 RealBadAngel or mobs
07:40 RealBadAngel when this is possible
07:42 RealBadAngel or this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWfCRE-PeoM&amp;feature=endscreen
07:44 VanessaE Ok, another update to homedecor just went out.  Added a couple variations on a door type I put in yesterday.
07:44 VanessaE enjoy :-)
07:48 VanessaE RealBadAngel: looking at that "future of homedecor" vid now
07:49 VanessaE shit
07:49 VanessaE no. Just, no. :-)
07:49 VanessaE get MT do be able to DO any of that first, then we'll talk :D
07:49 VanessaE second video now
07:50 VanessaE third now
07:50 VanessaE seen the third one before.
07:51 VanessaE is this possible?  Sure.  Will c55 do it?  no fucking way.
07:51 VanessaE not minetesty-looking enough
07:51 VanessaE (he thinks pipeworks doesn't fit the theme of the game because they're too round)
07:52 RealBadAngel lol
07:53 RealBadAngel seen blockscape by any chance?
07:53 VanessaE no
07:53 VanessaE RealBadAngel: go download the update of homedecor I just made.  Tell me what you think :-)
07:53 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFKlNskaRPU
07:53 VanessaE watching
07:54 RealBadAngel then watch, meanwhile i will dowload homedecor
07:54 VanessaE nice
07:54 RealBadAngel its minecraft like game
07:54 VanessaE irrlicht can do this
07:54 VanessaE ?
07:54 VanessaE oh.
07:54 RealBadAngel its authors own engine
07:55 VanessaE well looking at the items in the inventory the demo has, and knowing what the game can do now, we can fake most of this
07:55 RealBadAngel its an old vid
07:56 VanessaE ahahah he uses the same sort of ceiling light fixtures I do :D
07:56 VanessaE (the little white cubes)
07:57 RealBadAngel the point is why we shall go in 8-bit direction style
07:58 RealBadAngel when the engine alows us to fly
07:59 RealBadAngel we could have game that minecraft could just sit and watch
08:00 RealBadAngel but no. intel graphics cards are most valuable piece of hardware ever invented
08:01 RealBadAngel i was makin lately some clean up in my hardware storage
08:01 VanessaE meh
08:01 RealBadAngel vid cards, memory sticks etc
08:01 VanessaE I have a fucking kick-ass computer with a shit-hot-fast video card.  I WANT TO USE IT. :-)
08:01 VanessaE (but I want to use it with stuff that's fun e.g. minetest)
08:02 RealBadAngel threw some of them like old s3 virge, some intels
08:02 RealBadAngel into the bin
08:02 RealBadAngel simply
08:03 RealBadAngel and someone is tellin me the game shall run on it
08:03 VanessaE oh it'll run
08:03 VanessaE for slow values of "run"
08:03 RealBadAngel fuck
08:04 RealBadAngel im not a poor african
08:04 VanessaE that said, I still want my code to be as fast and lean as possible
08:04 RealBadAngel and its 21st century for fuck sake
08:04 VanessaE so at least my mods will run just fine on that old hardware anyway
08:04 VanessaE it's the game that's slow :-/
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08:05 RealBadAngel that computer c55 is targetin my neigbours threw away
08:06 RealBadAngel and im collectin that trash to get spare power supplies
08:06 RealBadAngel or just cables
08:06 RealBadAngel or the SCREWS
08:06 VanessaE heh
08:07 RealBadAngel those are more valuable than that fuckin intel video cards
08:07 VanessaE I'm sure Intel makes decent CPUs, but their GPUs are shit.
08:08 RealBadAngel theyre good to display windows loading logo
08:08 RealBadAngel nothin more
08:08 * VanessaE looks at the doors in homedecor.  7 types, with left/right versions = 14 total.
08:08 VanessaE and yet someone is gonna ask me to add a steel door sooner or later (no.)
08:09 RealBadAngel theyre already here
08:09 RealBadAngel i mean steel doors
08:09 VanessaE you like?
08:09 VanessaE oh, yeah I know
08:09 RealBadAngel pilzadams minetest_game
08:09 VanessaE yes
08:10 VanessaE does his fork use Xdoors² ?
08:10 RealBadAngel and the water...
08:10 RealBadAngel ive deleted original one
08:10 VanessaE I like that one.  Ultimate replacement for default doors and old Xdoors.
08:10 RealBadAngel and using pilzadams
08:13 RealBadAngel i think i need to tune water mills
08:13 RealBadAngel theyre givin way too much power
08:14 VanessaE bbr
08:14 VanessaE brb
08:14 RealBadAngel two of them are more than enough to power furnace grinder and alloy furnace
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08:20 iqualfragile hi guys
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09:48 VanessaE Another homedecor update - minor bugfix (fancy exterior doors aliases were broken.  Fixed.)
09:48 VanessaE TIme for me to head off to bed.
09:49 VanessaE 5 hours late.
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12:46 PilzAdam Hello everonye!
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13:17 PilzAdam signs mod is now on github: https://github.com/PilzAdam/signs
13:23 OldCoder PilzAdam, Hello
13:23 PilzAdam sup, OldCoder
13:29 NakedFury hey both of you
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13:58 NekoGloop Mornin
13:58 PilzAdam hi
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14:48 RealBadAngel hi folks
14:48 RealBadAngel you there neko?
14:49 NekoGloop Yep.
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14:56 jordach_livedisc right
14:56 jordach_livedisc PilzAdam, i see you are on xbox live
14:57 jordach_livedisc OldCoder, present
14:57 OldCoder jordach_livedisc, hi
14:57 OldCoder jordach_livedisc, I mailed you
14:59 jordach_livedisc OldCoder, bug
15:00 OldCoder Oh?
15:00 jordach_livedisc im a windows nt (xp home ed) user
15:00 OldCoder Then to restore the MBR you can use Windows?
15:00 jordach_livedisc i cant boot into ti
15:00 jordach_livedisc it
15:00 OldCoder Go on
15:00 jordach_livedisc grub_rescue happends
15:00 OldCoder happends?
15:00 jordach_livedisc happens
15:01 OldCoder jordach_livedisc, I am not following; sorry. What is it that you need to do?
15:01 jordach_livedisc i cant boot into windows
15:01 jordach_livedisc i just get a grub_rescue prompt
15:03 OldCoder All right
15:03 OldCoder jordach_livedisc, it is unlikely that I can comment much; I can't see anything about the system. When you boot a Linux LiveCD are you able to mount Windows?
15:03 jordach_livedisc i can mount the drive
15:03 OldCoder All right
15:04 jordach_livedisc gparted states that the windows drive has the flag: boot
15:04 OldCoder jordach_livedisc, I'm afraid I can't debug this remotely. There are a number of possible issues. The thing is, I hate Windows.
15:04 * OldCoder considers
15:04 OldCoder jordach_livedisc, I don't really do Windows. But hold on a bit.
15:05 OldCoder There is a Windows repair procedure
15:05 OldCoder jordach_livedisc, Did you make a Windows repair CD while the system was functioning?
15:06 jordach_livedisc no
15:06 OldCoder That is sort of what you need
15:06 OldCoder Hold on
15:06 jordach_livedisc but i belive lilo (boot manager can fix this)
15:06 OldCoder Yes; depending on the issue
15:07 OldCoder jordach_livedisc, Boot a Linux LiveCD that includes syslinux and try ms-sys which I wrote you about
15:07 OldCoder If the LiveCD does not include ms-sys you can probably use apt-get to install it
15:07 jordach_livedisc would xubuntu suffice?
15:07 OldCoder Probably
15:07 OldCoder Checking
15:07 OldCoder worth a try
15:07 OldCoder sudo apt-get install ms-sys
15:07 OldCoder See what that does
15:08 OldCoder Never mind syslinux; just try the preceding command
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15:10 jordach_livedisc E: Unable to locate package ms-sys
15:12 OldCoder jordach_livedisc, can you boot a current Ubuntu or Mint disk?
15:12 jordach_livedisc im using xubuntu 11.10
15:14 jordach_livedisc nor can i mount the partition
15:14 OldCoder jordach_livedisc, When you say
15:14 OldCoder <jordach_livedisc> nor can i mount the partition
15:15 OldCoder Do you mean that Windows is not mountable after all?
15:15 jordach_livedisc the drive was fine before i deleted the ubuntu partition
15:15 OldCoder Do you mean that Windows is not mountable after all?
15:15 jordach_livedisc i in fact removed it from windows
15:16 OldCoder Removed what from Windows?
15:17 jordach_livedisc the ubuntu partition
15:17 OldCoder Then it was removed from the system and not Windows. All right.
15:17 OldCoder Are you able to boot a Ubuntu or Mint disk?
15:17 OldCoder Do you have one?
15:17 OldCoder If not
15:18 OldCoder Do you have another Windows system?
15:18 Calinou jordach_livedisc: fixmbr is your friend
15:18 Calinou boot windows in failsafe mode
15:18 Calinou use "fixmbr" command
15:18 Calinou (this removes any dual boot)
15:18 OldCoder He is not able to get that far
15:18 OldCoder IIRC
15:18 Calinou or "fixboot", forgot
15:18 jordach_livedisc OldCoder, no other windows system availible
15:18 OldCoder There are a number of Windows procedures but he needs a repair disk
15:19 jordach_livedisc my pc is the only thing that can burn discs
15:19 OldCoder jordach_livedisc, Try downloading a Windows Repair ISO and burning it using Xubuntu
15:19 jordach_livedisc 1gb of ram
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15:19 jordach_livedisc i cant keep using ram to store things\
15:19 OldCoder You don't need to
15:19 OldCoder You have space on the hard disk
15:20 OldCoder Create a temporary partition
15:20 OldCoder Or install Ubuntu or Mint
15:20 jordach_livedisc OldCoder, i cant
15:20 OldCoder Go on
15:20 jordach_livedisc if i could boot to bsd
15:20 jordach_livedisc and burn a disc
15:20 OldCoder There's a copy of BSD somewhere?
15:20 OldCoder And what's preventing a Mint install?
15:21 jordach_livedisc OldCoder, i am not going to wait another 60 mins for bsd
15:22 Calinou your computer cannot boot from USB?
15:22 OldCoder jordach_livedisc, as you wish
15:22 jordach_livedisc Calinou, cant
15:22 jordach_livedisc because acer
15:22 OldCoder jordach_livedisc, I'd burn or install Ubuntu or Mint
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15:24 Calinou minecraft changelog: "The left-click action will no longer open doors, pull levers, push buttons or open trapdoors. Use the right mouse button!"
15:24 Calinou :|
15:25 Calinou being a noob in MC is now forbidden 8D
15:25 T_A_N_K cornernote, i have a requium for you
15:25 Calinou jordach_livedisc: why can't acer computers boot USB? is it a recent computer?
15:25 jordach_livedisc 2006
15:26 OldCoder Servers going down to install latest homedecor update
15:26 OldCoder Servers restarted
15:26 NekoGloop Calinou: The right click does that?
15:27 NekoGloop goddamn, i broke all those doors in creative mode for no reason?
15:27 jordach_livedisc http://i.imgur.com/uA8AB.png
15:27 jordach_livedisc OldCoder, http://i.imgur.com/uA8AB.png
15:27 Calinou in minetest: no :(, in minecraft: yes
15:27 OldCoder Reviewing
15:27 OldCoder jordach_livedisc, What is this a picture of?
15:27 jordach_livedisc GPARTED
15:28 Calinou http://www.minecraftforum.net/news/621-prepaid-minecraft-gift-cards-now-available/ < lol'd
15:28 OldCoder jordach_livedisc, I wouldn't do that
15:28 OldCoder jordach_livedisc, I'd burn or install Ubuntu or Mint
15:28 NekoGloop youtube is now 1% more green
15:28 OldCoder If you have disk space for a partition this should not be a problem
15:30 * jordach_livedisc starts installing xubuntu over bsd
15:31 * PilzAdam is back
15:31 OldCoder jordach_livedisc, wait; xubuntu doesn't seem to have an ms-sys package. If you go that route you'll need to build ms-sys.
15:31 OldCoder Might work
15:31 jordach_livedisc PilzAdam, wating DVD;s ftw
15:32 jordach_livedisc OLDCODER http://i.imgur.com/VHf6R.png
15:32 OldCoder Reviewing
15:33 jordach_livedisc its still alive
15:33 OldCoder Yes; that's as expected
15:36 T_A_N_K can a moderator move the fancy game mode into mod releases
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15:51 jordach_livedisc OldCoder, even worse
15:51 OldCoder ?
15:51 jordach_livedisc reboots on attempt to install
15:51 OldCoder Which?
15:51 jordach_livedisc xubuntu
15:51 jordach_livedisc on the deleted bsd partition
15:52 jordach_livedisc OldCoder, there may still be a fix
15:52 OldCoder Would it be possible simply to download an Ubuntu ISO; burn and boot that?
15:52 jordach_livedisc im on a livedisc
15:52 jordach_livedisc and cant install
15:52 jordach_livedisc or do sio
15:52 jordach_livedisc so
15:52 OldCoder You can download an ISO to hard disk
15:52 OldCoder Can you burn?
15:52 jordach_livedisc cant mount drives
15:52 jordach_livedisc okay
15:53 jordach_livedisc fuck
15:53 jordach_livedisc it mounted the windows drive
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15:55 OldCoder NekoGloop, wb
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15:55 Mikeonline hi
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15:56 PilzAdam sup, Mikeonline
15:56 Mikeonline wazzup Pilz :)
15:57 Mikeonline irgendeiner wollt gestern wissen wie man ne vogelscheuche crafted :D
15:57 Mikeonline hab gesagt er soll dich fragen ;)
15:59 Mikeonline PilzAdam
15:59 PilzAdam ja?
15:59 Mikeonline gibt es ne möglichkeit ne teilwelt zur seedwelt zurückzusetzen?
15:59 jordach_livedisc OldCoder,
15:59 jordach_livedisc im getting there
16:00 OldCoder k
16:00 jordach_livedisc The Master Boot Record of  /dev/sda  has been updated.
16:00 PilzAdam Mikeonline, nein
16:00 jordach_livedisc bbl
16:00 Mikeonline hm das ist lame
16:00 Mikeonline das sollte gehen
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16:01 PilzAdam i have a idea for water+lava
16:01 PilzAdam water+lava_source -> stone
16:01 PilzAdam water+lava_flowing -> cobble
16:01 NekoGloop Well, i guess i'm dropping my gamemode.
16:02 rubenwardy (5:01:37 PM) PilzAdam: water+lava_source -> stone
16:02 rubenwardy (5:01:44 PM) PilzAdam: water+lava_flowing -> cobble
16:02 rubenwardy In minecraft, water+source= obidstan,    and water+flowing = cobble
16:02 PilzAdam i know
16:02 PilzAdam in MC: not infinite lava
16:02 rubenwardy you could make it pumice or a harder version of stone
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16:03 Jordach ot it
16:03 Jordach got it
16:04 OldCoder ?
16:04 NekoGloop And noone cares about my gamemode.
16:04 NekoGloop Wonderful.
16:04 OldCoder ?
16:04 OldCoder I am sure it is nice
16:04 NekoGloop That's why i'm droppin it.
16:05 OldCoder Why would you drop it?
16:05 Jordach OldCoder - back in windows
16:05 OldCoder Jordach, congrats. What did you do?
16:05 NekoGloop Because noone wants it?
16:05 OldCoder What is it?
16:05 Jordach used lilo
16:05 OldCoder Jordach, how?
16:05 Jordach rewrote the /dev/sda boot
16:05 NekoGloop It is a gamemode.
16:05 Jordach and easy bcd will repair it to default
16:06 OldCoder NekoGloop, I gathered that. What are the changes?
16:06 OldCoder Jordach, what is easy bcd?
16:06 OldCoder Jordach, and what did you do? For future reference
16:06 Jordach a windows bootloader
16:06 OldCoder Jordach, what did you do in LILO?
16:06 Jordach well, changes it
16:06 NekoGloop 3 igneous rocks forming from different methods of water and lava colliding...
16:06 NekoGloop Bricks of several materials...
16:06 OldCoder NekoGloop, will this be a mod? A new *_game folder?
16:06 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/5f93204e4c7d1c0ceb2cb33ce427defbe207c0ba
16:07 NekoGloop It wont be anything, because i'm dropping it.
16:07 OldCoder What would it have been?
16:07 Jordach sudo apt-get install lilo
16:07 Jordach sudo lilo -M /dev/sda mbr
16:07 OldCoder Jordach, Thank you!
16:07 Jordach solved
16:07 NekoGloop It would have been a gamemode.
16:07 OldCoder Congrats again
16:07 OldCoder NekoGloop, I am new to this. How would it have been activated or installed?
16:07 Jordach but this no disk error
16:07 NekoGloop Also, would have had clouds, treasure chests, et.
16:07 NekoGloop etc*
16:07 OldCoder NekoGloop, so; a new _game folder?
16:08 NekoGloop OldCoder: By putting the folder into minetest/games/
16:08 OldCoder NekoGloop, got it. If you write it I'll host it.
16:08 NekoGloop Except i'm dropping it.
16:08 OldCoder As you wish
16:08 OldCoder If you change your mind let me know
16:08 NekoGloop Because noone would want to play it.
16:08 OldCoder The community may grow
16:08 OldCoder I have some errands to run but will return
16:09 * OldCoder salutes
16:09 PilzAdam VanessaE, youre here?
16:10 Jordach phew
16:10 Jordach almost del'd my media partition
16:10 rubenwardy (5:06:51 PM) PilzAdam: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/5f93204e4c7d1c0ceb2cb33ce427defbe207c0ba
16:10 rubenwardy Awesome
16:18 PilzAdam im bored: http://ompldr.org/vZnJreQ/Minetest_35.png
16:21 NekoGloop My gamemode would have had seperate interaction requirements.
16:22 NekoGloop For example, water touching lava source is obsidian, water source touching flowing lava is basalt, and flowing water touching flowing lava is pumice.
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16:27 rubenwardy1 i hate it when it does this
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16:31 Jordach found my missing disk error
16:31 * Jordach placed a cd-rw in the draw and its gone
16:31 Jordach it was wubi trying to work
16:35 Jordach PilzAdam - i may try your game
16:35 PilzAdam good
16:35 Jordach but not now
16:35 PilzAdam not good
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16:48 OldCoder NekoGloop, then do it
16:49 NekoGloop I've already done it.
16:49 OldCoder k
16:49 NekoGloop I'm just not releasing it.
16:49 NekoGloop Because noone ever wants anything i make.
16:51 NekoGloop Why waste space on the forums with something noone wants?
16:51 OldCoder I would like it
16:51 OldCoder And things build over time
16:51 OldCoder Patience is a virtue
16:53 NekoGloop And not wasting time is also a good one.
16:53 OldCoder That is certainly true
16:53 NekoGloop So why should i waste my time?
16:54 OldCoder It does not follow
16:54 OldCoder You have not established at all that your time would be wasted
16:54 khonkhortisan OldCoder, you changed the mods last night on your open server
16:54 OldCoder khonkhortisan, Just homedecor IIRC
16:54 khonkhortisan my wool doesn't wrap screens the same
16:54 OldCoder Is it affected by homedecor?
16:55 OldCoder I do not recall changing anything else at all
16:55 khonkhortisan it's the last thing in the creative inventory
16:55 OldCoder Is it affected by homedecor?
16:55 OldCoder I do not recall changing anything else at all
16:55 khonkhortisan well, almost the last
16:55 khonkhortisan I'm just saying it moved in the creative inventory because a mod now has a different number of nodes
16:55 OldCoder khonkhortisan, see note above
16:55 NekoGloop Homedecor is incapable of changing anything at the end of the creative invetnroy
16:55 OldCoder That is interesting
16:56 NekoGloop Because creative inventory is alphabetical including modname.
16:56 OldCoder khonkhortisan, The complete changelog is on  my page. Nothing else has changed that I know of recently. People are welcome to help me isolate the issue.
16:57 OldCoder I will be pleased to make any appropriate fixes
16:57 OldCoder And once made
16:57 khonkhortisan there's no issue, there were I think six wool on the next-to-last page, now there are two wool on the next-to-last page, because they were pushed to the last one.
16:57 OldCoder It will all be automated
16:57 OldCoder Are you requesting a change?
16:57 NekoGloop No.
16:57 OldCoder O.K. Thank you
16:57 * Jordach considers changing building style http://i.imgur.com/t3rbx.png
16:57 NekoGloop He means the pagenumbers for the things are different.
16:57 OldCoder All right
16:57 Jordach stairs+ + xdoors2 (with changes) + moreblocks
16:57 NekoGloop Due to creative inventory growing/shrinking
16:58 Jordach and chopped  ovo's pack
16:58 NekoGloop Jordach: Pfft, house is wimpy.
16:58 NekoGloop I've made a gigantic wooden mansion.
16:58 Jordach NekoGloop, im trying for a new style
16:59 * Jordach checks soundcloud
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17:01 Jordach people
17:01 Jordach would anyone like to see a redesigned minetest.net
17:02 PilzAdam yep
17:03 Jordach im gunna make a image from powerpoint as an example
17:03 Jordach then build it with dreamweaver
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17:04 khonkhortisan I take it wool checker would be worse than wool stair
17:05 khonkhortisan Creative mode should automatically give you /giveme access to the creative inventory.
17:07 PilzAdam i am realy bored: http://ompldr.org/vZnJsaQ
17:08 khonkhortisan I see gates have their use
17:08 PilzAdam yes
17:08 PilzAdam delayers also delay the off signal
17:09 PilzAdam with an and you can prevent this
17:13 * Calinou installed git for windows a while ago, cloning his repos now
17:13 Calinou not the github one, the "official" one
17:15 * Jordach high fives Calinou
17:15 Calinou looks like it doesn't want to clone for some reason *facepalms*
17:19 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/rXW27.png PilzAdam
17:19 khonkhortisan a mithril pickaxe can't dig a harmful cactus
17:19 PilzAdam Jordach, too dark
17:19 Jordach PilzAdam, suggestions?
17:19 * Calinou updated thunderbird
17:19 PilzAdam white and blue
17:19 Jordach right
17:19 Calinou PilzAdam: windows 8 much
17:19 PilzAdam (not too much blue)
17:19 Calinou outlook.com much
17:19 Calinou :D
17:19 Calinou Jordach: you're back on your computer? how?
17:20 Calinou I like the current minetest.net, it's just fine
17:20 Jordach the linux boot tool, lilo
17:20 Calinou simple but the site just works
17:20 Jordach Calinou, feels un-polished
17:20 Calinou lilo *lol*
17:20 Jordach Calinou, we want "new" players, not advocates like marktraceur
17:20 Calinou it is polished, the site isn't hard to navigate through
17:20 * Jordach winks
17:20 Calinou lo
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17:20 Calinou ...lol
17:21 Calinou minecraft.net isn't THAT polished anyway
17:21 Calinou only the "Buy Now!" button is shiny
17:22 Jordach yes exactlyu
17:22 Jordach we want a better site that attracts
17:22 Calinou polishing the website won't help; it does not change rank in search engines
17:22 Calinou attracts? let's recode the whole site in flash and force everyone to use flash
17:22 OldCoder Ugh
17:23 OldCoder Sure; put all the text as images too
17:23 PilzAdam Jordach, can you make the same site as you already created but with white background, blue lines and black font?
17:23 Jordach PilzAdam maybe
17:24 Jordach also http://www.angelfire.com/super/badwebs/
17:24 Jordach thats a bad example
17:25 Calinou git command line works... fuck GUIs :P
17:25 Jordach PilzAdam http://i.imgur.com/t3LxA.png
17:26 Jordach (ignore the black lines)
17:28 thexyz why is it blue?
17:28 thexyz that looks like powerpoint presentation slide
17:29 Jordach thexyz, make a design thats acceptable, then make it
17:29 thexyz (which came from... ummm... don't even know how old are those)
17:29 Jordach you clearly don;t know how designing things work graphically
17:29 thexyz Jordach: there's already good desing posted at forums
17:29 Jordach thexyz, nothing like competition
17:30 Jordach also, money on him never returning
17:30 rubenwardy1 (6:19:01 PM) Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/rXW27.png PilzAdam
17:30 rubenwardy1 Nice! I agree, it is too dark. Also, you should use nice game textures like stone (not cobble)
17:30 Jordach with the html
17:30 thexyz and your point sounded like "make better or shut up", i don't like it
17:30 Jordach "humans strive for improvement"
17:30 Jordach this explains the TV remote
17:31 thexyz tv remote?
17:31 thexyz pure laziness
17:31 Calinou arch linux users are not lazy
17:31 Calinou TRUTH
17:32 Jordach rubenwardy1 using game texture kinda failed here: http://minecraft.net
17:32 thexyz yes, it may be strange, but i prefer this design http://upload.maciejkwas.pl/plik5/home.jpg over your
17:33 Jordach three bugs: out of data screenshots
17:33 Jordach no actual video from screenshot
17:33 Calinou there, cloned my mods repo, minetest and minetest_game
17:33 thexyz what do you mean by "out of data"?
17:34 Jordach out of date
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17:34 thexyz well, then what is "out of date"? do you mean those images from 0.2 era look weird?
17:34 thexyz i think they can be replaced with ease
17:35 thexyz btw, isn't that your comment "This looks fucking awesome compared to http://minecraft.net Looking at those images, I tried clicking the links."?
17:36 PilzAdam gtg
17:36 PilzAdam bye
17:36 Jordach thexyz, wow factor
17:36 Jordach that dies quickly for me
17:37 rubenwardy (6:32:06 PM) Jordach: rubenwardy1 using game texture kinda failed here: http://minecraft.net
17:37 rubenwardy true
17:37 rubenwardy (6:32:27 PM) thexyz: yes, it may be strange, but i prefer this design http://upload.maciejkwas.pl/plik5/home.jpg over your
17:37 rubenwardy I think that one looks too much of a selling point, which is against the meaning of the minetest community
17:37 rubenwardy Jordach's is a simpler design, yet of course lacks some features which the previous one has
17:38 thexyz well
17:38 rubenwardy like a home page
17:38 rubenwardy well, i guess the icon links to a home page
17:39 rubenwardy brb, i am rebooting in ubuntu
17:39 thexyz if anything good-looking looks for you "too much of a selling point" then let's create new page in pure html, without any css (who needs that except websites that sell stuff?)
17:39 thexyz oh, he won't read it
17:39 Calinou ubuntu users never read anything
17:39 Calinou that's why
17:40 thexyz why do he need to reboot to ubuntu?
17:40 thexyz instead of staying with it
17:40 Calinou maybe because his graphics card has shit drivers that doesn't let him play games
17:40 Calinou or he ran something that wine didn't support :P
17:40 Calinou inb4 wine is terrible
17:40 Calinou inb4 me answers "no u"
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17:41 thexyz wine is awesome
17:41 thexyz except they don't give a shit about my bug report
17:41 Jordach thexyz, not always
17:41 thexyz Jordach: ?
17:41 * Jordach had to fix a broken MBR
17:41 thexyz fix it by switching to GPT
17:42 Jordach lilo saved the day
17:42 Jordach rubenwardy, i am able to change the design to people's ideas
17:42 * Jordach does not use a fixed POV
17:43 rubenwardy thexyz: if anything good-looking looks for you "too much of a selling point" then let's create new page in pure html, without any css (who needs that except websites that sell stuff?)
17:43 rubenwardy It does look very good, but may be a bit too selling.
17:43 rubenwardy i would still vote for it
17:44 rubenwardy actually, that could all be solve with a piece of text saying "free"
17:44 Jordach rubenwardy, i have some css and html5 in the wings
17:44 Jordach also, don't expect to see that page ever.
17:45 rubenwardy i do like your design Jordach
17:45 rubenwardy it is good
17:45 Jordach rubenwardy, the world is headed to flat squares and colours
17:45 Jordach see android, apple, google, microsoft
17:45 rubenwardy true
17:45 rubenwardy for mobile compatibility
17:46 Jordach thats why mine works, (and its a better feel on a tablet, since i browse reguraly on one myself)
17:46 thexyz free*
17:46 thexyz *like in freedom (make rms happy)
17:46 Jordach who the fuck is RMS
17:46 thexyz Jordach: only microsoft does that
17:47 Jordach thexyz; the pc age is OVER.
17:47 khonkhortisan OldCoder, (now asking for a change) Can I have /giveme privs on the 30007 open creative server?
17:47 thexyz oh, yes, yes
17:47 thexyz Jordach: which device are you writing this from?
17:47 Jordach android
17:47 thexyz which device did you design that page?
17:47 Jordach 2.1
17:47 Jordach my computer
17:47 Jordach see: apple keynote
17:47 thexyz then which device do you use to play minetest? to write mods for it
17:47 Jordach tablet with osk
17:47 Jordach teamviewer FTW
17:48 thexyz Jordach: will that keynote shit work on non-pc?
17:48 Jordach YES
17:48 thexyz for example..?
17:48 Jordach powerpoint
17:49 thexyz keynote != powerpoint
17:49 thexyz and, anyway, this all is shit
17:49 thexyz smart users use LaTeX + beamer
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18:01 Jordach some russian CoD players challenged me to a 1 vs 8 team deathmatch...i won
18:03 khonkhortisan Anyone want to help build a road?
18:03 thexyz Jordach: oh, unbalanced shit ^^
18:03 Calinou <thexyz> smart users use LaTeX + beamer
18:04 OldCoder khonkhortisan, Sure; coming up
18:04 Calinou latex... meh
18:04 thexyz Calinou: ?
18:04 thexyz it's awesome
18:04 Calinou noone uses it 8D
18:04 thexyz i don't need to know anything about formatting rules, breaking rules and all shit
18:04 Calinou and it's not portable, the main reason
18:04 thexyz Calinou: http://arxiv.org/
18:04 Calinou same applies to python, ruby & co
18:04 thexyz what's "portable"?
18:05 OldCoder khonkhortisan, What is the priv name?
18:05 OldCoder Can anybody else tell me what he meant?
18:05 Calinou thexyz: works on any OS
18:05 Calinou this means: other than linux
18:05 thexyz Calinou: it works under windows & mac
18:05 Calinou this is why noone uses GPG, as an example
18:06 Calinou there is "portable" and "well-ported". python is portable but not well ported
18:06 Calinou you need to edit python scripts, almost always
18:06 Calinou not even funny
18:06 OldCoder How do I give khonkhortisan the "giveme" he requested?
18:06 Calinou OldCoder: "give" privilege
18:06 Calinou gives /give and /giveme
18:06 OldCoder k
18:06 thexyz Calinou: you're doing it wrong
18:06 thexyz when i used windows latex  (miktex) & python worked just fine
18:07 OldCoder khonkhortisan, done on 30007
18:07 OldCoder Indicate if you need anything else
18:07 OldCoder If you succeed in building something despite the open nature of the world we'll move it to a protected world
18:07 OldCoder BTW The world is backed up so let me know if you get griefed
18:08 khonkhortisan oh.
18:09 khonkhortisan I haven't gotten griefed at all in minetest yet, I even made an apple room on another server
18:09 OldCoder Good luck
18:09 OldCoder See above; I'll restore if there's a problem
18:11 khonkhortisan okay
18:12 * Jordach presses random button
18:15 khonkhortisan So I was flying along, minding my own buisness, when a cactus jumped out and hit me!
18:21 * OldCoder will be back in a couple of hours
18:21 OldCoder Attack Cactus
18:21 OldCoder Attacactus
18:22 * Jordach sighs
18:23 Jordach which game should i use: realtest, dvarves, pilz's game, jordan4ibanez's game?
18:27 * Jordach strips flatland
18:28 khonkhortisan flatland is good for large buildings, but not for roads, they wouldn't be interesting enough.
18:30 Jordach khonkhortisan, /me likes building
18:33 khonkhortisan what I'm working on: http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/8057294321/in/photostream/lightbox/
18:36 Jordach meh
18:39 Jordach wow thats off
18:39 Jordach very odd
18:39 Jordach s/off/odd
18:40 Jordach the latest git from sfan5 is faster than the ms c++ builds
18:40 sfan5 yay
18:40 Jordach no really
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18:40 Jordach it is.
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18:40 * Jordach does not understand that
18:46 sfan5 what?
18:46 thexyz because fuck logic, that's why
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18:49 Jordach sfan5, your builds are FAR faster than the c55 build
18:49 * Jordach only updates software when needed
18:50 sfan5 post that as positive critic on the forum ;)
18:50 Jordach my neck just made a cracking noise
18:50 sfan5 :o
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18:52 * Jordach downloads PilzAdam's game
18:57 Jordach rubenwardy
18:58 rubenwardy Jordach: i have replied to the topic
18:58 Jordach do you have a texture pack?
18:58 Jordach if not; disable the texture atals
18:58 Jordach s/atals/atlas
18:58 rubenwardy no, default
18:59 Jordach hm
18:59 * Jordach has no idea
18:59 * Jordach knows how fucked up the minetest codebase is
19:01 Jordach sfan5, your builds are nicce on the cpu
19:01 sfan5 :D \o/
19:01 Jordach it sits at 50%
19:01 Jordach never moving
19:01 leo_rockw I'm at 100% constantly :S
19:02 leo_rockw sometimes a bit over
19:02 * Jordach lits some tnt
19:03 * leo_rockw thinks that Jordach likes a lot speaking in the 3rd person.
19:03 Jordach leo_rockw, more fun :)
19:03 Jordach we need a home mod for minetest
19:04 Jordach (preferrably built in)
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19:05 leo_rockw there's minetown (I think that's the name)
19:05 leo_rockw you get NPC workers to build for you
19:10 leo_rockw or do you mean to set your home coordinates?
19:10 leo_rockw there's a mod for that too. And a bed mod with set spawn included.
19:11 Jordach leo_rockw, doner
19:11 Jordach done*
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19:27 * VanessaE peeks in for a sec
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19:41 Jordach sup VanessaE
19:41 VanessaE hi
19:42 * Jordach upgraded to latest git
19:42 VanessaE not much, just eating a late lunch before I head off to run some errands
19:42 Jordach TNT IS SLOW
19:42 VanessaE of course - it's entirely in Lua.
19:43 Jordach no $#!7 sherlock
19:43 VanessaE stupid idea too.
19:43 VanessaE that's a mod/function that just should not be done in Lua.
19:43 Jordach yes
19:44 VanessaE (no offense to whoever wrote it)
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19:46 VanessaE hi LAD/
19:46 LAD hi
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19:47 brandon sfan u have builds do u have builds for linux?
19:48 VanessaE brandon: If it's Ubuntu, use the nightly builds PPA.
19:49 brandon VanessaE, how to do that XD
19:49 VanessaE https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/daily-builds
19:49 * LAD watchs his cpu usage slowly rise
19:49 LAD oh it droped
19:49 LAD and now back up
19:49 brandon VanessaE, ok brb
19:49 VanessaE Use synaptic to add "ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds"
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19:50 VanessaE ok, gotta run.  Someone take over helping brandon when he comes back :-)
19:51 VanessaE he needs to use synaptic to install the game as "minetestc55"
19:51 VanessaE bbl
19:52 LAD ahhh
19:52 LAD god
19:52 LAD any 1 read the book SLAM
19:52 LAD worst book ever
19:52 LAD writen by NICK HORNBY
19:53 LAD which looks like horny
19:53 Lumpio- lol yah boox sux who reads wen u hav internet lol
19:53 Lumpio- and facebok
19:53 LAD lol
19:53 Lumpio- (is not a readin book xD)
19:53 LAD XD
19:53 LAD well dont iamagin whats going on etther
19:53 LAD man
19:53 LAD XD
19:54 LAD how old are these kids any ways
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19:55 LAD ahhhh
19:55 LAD i keep geting accses probs
19:57 LAD ahh
19:57 LAD it stop loading
19:57 LAD XD
19:58 LAD ah ha
19:58 LAD i found the prob
19:58 LAD i had a google page open
19:58 LAD my computer is so old it cant run both at the same time
19:58 LAD XD
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20:00 xcgurl08 hey is anyones there
20:01 FreeFull No
20:02 LAD XD
20:02 Jordach FreeFull, you really like that sausage??
20:02 FreeFull =P
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20:03 xcgurl08 is it possible to make a banister in the game?
20:03 xcgurl08 like for stairs?
20:04 xcgurl08 the only thing I can find is a handrail mod..and that isn't really what I'm looking for
20:04 FreeFull It would be possible
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20:05 xcgurl08 how?
20:05 xcgurl08 I want it to be on the edge of a block, not in the middle like a fence
20:05 xcgurl08 so that you can place a torch in the middle of the block
20:05 xcgurl08 and then a banister on the edge
20:05 xcgurl08 does that make sense
20:05 xcgurl08 or maybe put the torch on the corner of the banister
20:06 FreeFull You'd probably need to create a banister+torch node
20:06 xcgurl08 what
20:06 xcgurl08 can you explain simply
20:06 xcgurl08 lol
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20:10 LAD brb
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20:13 T_A_N_K I'm going to create something truly fancy
20:13 Jordach SEX!!
20:14 Jordach sarcasm mod offline
20:14 Jordach [MODERROR] sex has missing dependancies: beds
20:15 T_A_N_K jordach do you ever stop to think about your shnozzle?
20:16 Jordach what did you say?!?!
20:16 * Jordach actually has a girlfirend
20:17 T_A_N_K wtf man, shnozzle is a dog
20:18 xcgurl08 why is it that yesterday when I asked for help about something non-minecraft someone told me this is the minecraft channel
20:18 * Jordach expected a euphinism
20:18 xcgurl08 but you guys aren't talking about minecraft at all
20:18 xcgurl08 so why was I admonished when you guys are doing it now
20:18 Jordach this is the "players" channel
20:19 xcgurl08 I mean minetest, not minecraft
20:19 Jordach this is the off-topic bit
20:19 Jordach if you like :)
20:19 xcgurl08 no I was talking on this channel
20:19 kumikumi Alrighty, I came here to talk about minetest actually
20:19 kumikumi first, has anybody managed to get this thing full-screen?
20:19 Jordach use maximise
20:19 kumikumi I am, that's why I asked about full-screen :|
20:20 xcgurl08 are you using a browser?
20:20 Jordach IMHO, there is no full screen, but there are "fake" ways of achieving this
20:20 NakedFury you want a full screen without the super thin borders?
20:20 NakedFury that wont bring any gameplay changes to the game or widen your game view
20:21 NakedFury at most like half a centimeter on each side and possible half an inch from top and bottom
20:21 kumikumi and another thing, the view distance is very poor (the world is disappearing before my very eyes)
20:21 NakedFury or even less
20:21 NakedFury press R
20:21 kumikumi Thanks!
20:21 Jordach kumikumi, use these: + and - to change distance
20:21 kumikumi that was quick
20:21 kumikumi Jordach: wow, thanks
20:21 Jordach ive been in minetest for over a year now
20:21 NakedFury R will always load all areas
20:23 kumikumi Jordach: I've tried this game many times before, but I've forgotten it all
20:23 xcgurl08 how come sometiems I see things in the game
20:23 xcgurl08 but then when I approach them, they are actually something quite different
20:24 Jordach xcgurl08, thats the auto render distance changer, just leave it...its harmless
20:24 xcgurl08 but why does something look like a flapping dragon but instead when you get near it's a tower of cobblestones
20:25 kumikumi xcgurl08: I haven't seen dragons yet, but I'll keep an eye for any
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20:30 OldCoder VanessaE, I've updated homedecor of course
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20:31 OldCoder khonkhortisan, I see you are keeping busy. Do you need fast?
20:33 kumikumi any way to change the actual world generation distance?
20:34 Jordach its limited by the constraint of C++
20:34 Jordach which is 65535
20:34 Jordach or 31122
20:34 Jordach both ways
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20:35 kumikumi the bottom of the lake is missing..
20:36 kumikumi I don't think it's even that many units away
20:38 thexyz # From how far blocks are sent to clients (value * 16 nodes)
20:38 thexyz #max_block_send_distance = 10
20:38 thexyz # From how far blocks are generated for clients (value * 16 nodes)
20:38 thexyz #max_block_generate_distance = 6
20:38 kumikumi thexyz: cool
20:39 xcgurl08 is there a button fot craft all?
20:39 xcgurl08 for*
20:39 FreeFull No
20:39 kumikumi thexyz: where did you find that?
20:39 thexyz kumikumi: edit your minetest.conf
20:40 thexyz xcgurl08: use middle-click
20:40 kumikumi thexyz: I am, but there was no "max_block_send_distance"
20:40 Jordach kumikumi; minetest.conf
20:40 thexyz there should be in minetest.conf.example
20:40 thexyz if there isn't such string just add it
20:40 xcgurl08 thanks the
20:40 thexyz (without leading #)
20:41 FreeFull thexyz: Middleclick doesn't do that
20:41 FreeFull Middleclick does exactly the same thing left click does
20:42 FreeFull Oh, it does
20:42 kumikumi thexyz: where should I look for the example config file? it's not in ~/.minetest
20:42 thexyz FreeFull: it crafts 10 items
20:42 FreeFull It does craft all the items
20:42 FreeFull But doesn't work for tools
20:42 FreeFull Only for stuff that stacks
20:42 thexyz kumikumi: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example
20:42 kumikumi thexyz: thanks
20:42 thexyz FreeFull: how could that work with non-stackable things?
20:44 FreeFull thexyz: Well, minecraft puts stuff straight into inventory/chest when you shift+click, rather than putting it at your mouse cursor
20:46 Jordach ngith all
20:46 Jordach night
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20:53 T_A_N_K i shit you not, i just created elevators
20:54 T_A_N_K not even ghetto elevators, actually aesthetically pleasing ones
20:55 NakedFury with pistons?
20:56 T_A_N_K nope
20:56 T_A_N_K I'll make a vid in a minute
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21:41 khonkhortisan So I can tell direction using the sun
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22:17 T_A_N_K and done!
22:17 T_A_N_K and yes you can khon, use the time
22:25 * VanessaE is back
22:25 VanessaE and I wanna see this elevator...assuming it's for minetest ;-)
22:26 VanessaE you don't even need to get your time, just look straight up and watch the movement of the sun, you can guess at the time and figure your direction from there.
22:26 NakedFury from what direction the sun comes up? in game
22:26 VanessaE east
22:27 NakedFury ok thanks
22:27 VanessaE due east in fact.
22:27 VanessaE (game doesn't attempt to shift the ecliptic)
22:30 NakedFury would be extremely interesting if a more realistic sun movement was added.
22:30 NakedFury maybe for minetest 3.0
22:31 LAD joined #minetest
22:31 Mikeonline VanessaE is the biggest minetest fan :P
22:31 VanessaE heh
22:31 OldCoder Then build
22:32 NakedFury really need to finish my c book
22:32 OldCoder The Gameboom world seems to be destroyed
22:32 OldCoder Need to replace it
22:34 NakedFury also need to take some time and make textures for all mods OldCoder server nexus
22:34 NakedFury that sounds cool
22:34 NakedFury server nexus
22:34 OldCoder That is the new official name then
22:36 OldCoder NakedFury, do you use Twitter?
22:36 NakedFury yeah I have it to follow some game stuff
22:36 OldCoder NakedFury, I'll credit the new name to you; what's your handle?
22:37 NakedFury did you make a twitter for the servers stuff?
22:37 OldCoder Yes
22:37 OldCoder Actually I'm just tweeting MT now on my regular Twitter.
22:38 NakedFury well since nakedfury was taken I used nakedrage
22:39 OldCoder All right; noted
22:39 NakedFury im not a tweet maker, more of a reader
22:39 OldCoder Fair nuff
22:39 OldCoder I am doing both now
22:43 Crisco joined #minetest
22:51 icallitvera joined #minetest
22:52 afkael joined #minetest
22:53 OldCoder Servers going down to update Technic
22:53 OldCoder Does anybody else have mods 'n' stuff to update?
22:53 OldCoder khonkhortisan, note ^
22:55 NekoGloop joined #minetest
22:55 khonkhortisan my brother got me playing another game
22:55 OldCoder RealBadAngel, all the files appear to be from October 2
22:55 OldCoder Is that correct?
22:55 OldCoder k
22:55 NekoGloop Meow.
22:55 * OldCoder puts down a kitty treat
22:55 NekoGloop i just put some junglegrass in a furnace AS the server went down XD
22:55 OldCoder Servers restarted
22:55 RealBadAngel OldCoder, should be ok
22:55 leo_rockw khonkhortisan: Ö you're cheating on us! D:
22:56 * NekoGloop noms the treat ^w^
22:56 OldCoder RealBadAngel, check it out
22:56 RealBadAngel loggin in
22:56 khonkhortisan realmofthemadgod it's low-res and 2D, and I think worse than minetest
22:56 NekoGloop khonkhortisan: i used to play that.
22:56 NakedFury search minetest in twitter shows 6 japanese, chinese, or korean or whoever else uses sticks for language accounts
22:57 OldCoder Oh?
22:57 OldCoder Popular in Asia?
22:58 OldCoder Ah, NekoGloop I see you found more junglegrass
22:58 OldCoder 22:58:06: ACTION[ServerThread]: Player RealBadAngel moved too fast; resetting position
22:58 NekoGloop its everywhere lol
22:58 RealBadAngel lol
22:58 OldCoder Does anybody know much about this moved too fast issue?
22:58 RealBadAngel i just teleported
22:58 OldCoder Ah
22:58 VanessaE OldCoder: that's fucking IRRITATING is what I know about it.
22:58 NekoGloop other than how to turn it off, no.
22:58 VanessaE I HATE that "feature".
22:58 RealBadAngel using inventory+
22:58 OldCoder Hmm
22:59 NekoGloop disable_anticheat = true in minetest.conf
22:59 VanessaE happens on any server that lags from time to timew
22:59 VanessaE the anti-cheat feature mistakes lag for cheating
22:59 NekoGloop this means anyone who goes too fast ISNT teleported.
22:59 OldCoder NekoGloop, should I add that?
22:59 NekoGloop sure.
22:59 OldCoder O.K.
22:59 VanessaE NekoGloop: what else does it affect?
22:59 NekoGloop um...
22:59 NekoGloop not sure.
22:59 NekoGloop :3
22:59 VanessaE heh
22:59 OldCoder Anybody else know?
22:59 OldCoder I hesitate to break things
23:00 OldCoder Grepping the code now
23:00 NekoGloop gimme a sec
23:00 OldCoder k
23:02 NekoGloop it also should stop redigging
23:02 OldCoder Is this positive?
23:02 OldCoder Sounds like it
23:02 OldCoder Any drawbacks to the change?
23:02 RealBadAngel dammit i need rubber tree
23:02 NekoGloop but as far as cheating goes, i dont think it prevents much cheating.
23:03 OldCoder disable_anticheat = true
23:03 OldCoder is recommended, then
23:03 OldCoder proceeding
23:03 NekoGloop other than speedhax, which it seems to think we're all doing.
23:03 NekoGloop because minetest's cheat detection sucks.
23:04 NakedFury could it be possible to have ores generation in this manner: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1107057-132v1-custom-ore-generation-updated-sep-27th/   click the spoiler Show button under Default Veins Distributions
23:05 OldCoder Change made and will be picked up on the next restart
23:05 leo_rockw I didn't know about this disable_anticheat
23:05 leo_rockw that's awesome!
23:05 VanessaE possible sure, but you'd have to write your own ore generation routine in Lua
23:05 VanessaE perlin noise would get you close though
23:06 VanessaE but that's a fuckload of coal
23:06 NakedFury I think he exagerated in order to show the veins
23:06 NakedFury otherwise yes its fuckload of coal
23:07 NekoGloop could the next restart be sooner?
23:07 NekoGloop like, now?
23:07 leo_rockw This mod is the intellectual property of the author.  Anyone may reproduce or redistribute it freely or alter or borrow from it for other works, provided that they provide visible written credit to the author.  No permission is required so long as credit is given.  The source code for this mod is freely available on request.
23:07 leo_rockw so you can see how it works and recode it
23:08 NakedFury I will
23:08 NakedFury see if a java to lua is easy to do
23:09 FreeFull You'd pretty much have to rewrite everything yourself
23:09 FreeFull Especially since minecraft and minetest have completely different APIs
23:10 NekoGloop minecraft has no api
23:10 NekoGloop you need to install a mod for that.
23:11 NekoGloop OldCoder: could the next restart be now?
23:12 OldCoder Yes
23:12 OldCoder Do you wish any more updates or mods?
23:12 OldCoder Easy to add
23:12 OldCoder Restarting servers
23:13 OldCoder Restarted
23:13 NekoGloop nah, just anticheat to go poof
23:13 OldCoder It's gone
23:14 OldCoder Check it
23:14 leo_rockw yay!
23:14 * leo_rockw cheats!
23:14 NekoGloop you hacker you
23:14 OldCoder can't beat the heat by cheat it's neat!
23:15 leo_rockw NekoGloop: I once got an air node that said that. But I wasn't cheating.
23:15 RealBadAngel oldcoder, one request, can you log in as admin and give me 1 rubber tree sapling?
23:15 OldCoder Yes
23:15 OldCoder World 30000 ?
23:15 RealBadAngel i need it for testing
23:15 RealBadAngel yes
23:15 OldCoder One moment
23:15 leo_rockw well, I actually had the speed hack, but that wouldn't have anything to do with air, I think.
23:15 OldCoder RealBadAngel, what's the command?
23:16 RealBadAngel shit, im not sure lol
23:16 RealBadAngel youre the admin :)
23:16 OldCoder Well, yes
23:16 OldCoder But I'm still learning
23:16 VanessaE hi RBA, didn't see you here :-)
23:16 OldCoder It's a give I assume
23:16 OldCoder VanessaE, How do I give him a rubber tree sapling?
23:16 RealBadAngel i think /give player something
23:16 NekoGloop /give RealBadAngel farming:rubber_tree_capling
23:17 NekoGloop sapling*
23:17 VanessaE no clue, I don't even kn---
23:17 VanessaE right
23:17 NekoGloop also...
23:17 OldCoder capling or sapling?
23:17 NekoGloop inb4 massive shitstorm from RBA about gloopores being on the server.
23:17 NekoGloop sapling, oldcoder.
23:17 leo_rockw what do gloopores do?
23:17 leo_rockw are they like moreores?
23:17 OldCoder Says unknown item
23:18 RealBadAngel lemme check the name
23:19 RealBadAngel farming:rubber_sapling
23:19 OldCoder k
23:19 RealBadAngel reconnectin
23:19 OldCoder Nope
23:20 RealBadAngel ?
23:20 OldCoder Unknown item
23:20 OldCoder I checked the spelling, too
23:20 RealBadAngel he changed it? just checked it offline
23:20 RealBadAngel hold on
23:20 OldCoder Looking...
23:20 NekoGloop rubber sapling must no longer exist
23:21 OldCoder Grepping the code
23:21 NekoGloop how in hell do i get a bow?
23:21 OldCoder I tried to give you one
23:21 OldCoder Said unknown item again
23:21 RealBadAngel http://pastebin.com/nc7yuMZb
23:21 OldCoder Need spelling
23:21 OldCoder Reviewing
23:22 RealBadAngel its my copy of rubber.lua from farming mod
23:22 OldCoder Wait
23:22 OldCoder He's deleted it
23:22 OldCoder There's no rubber.lua in my copy
23:22 OldCoder Redownloading to be sure
23:23 RealBadAngel k
23:23 OldCoder He's updated
23:23 OldCoder Hold on
23:23 RealBadAngel if he did i will cut it and feed technic with it
23:23 OldCoder still no rubber
23:23 RealBadAngel its essential for me
23:24 OldCoder Then move it into Technic
23:24 OldCoder Here:
23:24 OldCoder https://github.com/PilzAdam/farming/zipball/master
23:24 OldCoder I'm working from that and there is no rubber.lua
23:24 OldCoder So I guess you inherit it
23:24 RealBadAngel eatin in progress
23:24 NekoGloop also, how does one make a bow?
23:25 OldCoder There's instructions on the mod page for that IIRC
23:25 NekoGloop but its not working
23:25 OldCoder Which mod is that?
23:25 OldCoder throwing
23:25 OldCoder Right?
23:25 NekoGloop yes
23:25 OldCoder jeija stops by here
23:25 OldCoder Should verify the bows still work
23:25 OldCoder I'll update momentarily
23:25 OldCoder Make sure it's current
23:26 NekoGloop you shouldnt have jeija's throwing mod
23:26 OldCoder Go on
23:26 OldCoder Explain
23:26 NekoGloop you should have pilzadam's throwing mod
23:26 OldCoder Hold on then
23:26 OldCoder Link for PilzAdams version please
23:26 NekoGloop would take me just as long
23:26 OldCoder ?
23:26 OldCoder I am occupied with updating 3 parts of this
23:27 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=45910#p45910
23:27 OldCoder ty
23:27 NekoGloop thank you
23:27 VanessaE well scroll to the top of that thread.
23:27 OldCoder Working on things for a few minutes
23:27 OldCoder <--- Likes to be sure
23:28 OldCoder
23:28 OldCoder Just drop Jeija's and replace with P.A.'s ?
23:28 OldCoder will this break anything?
23:29 NekoGloop nope.
23:29 OldCoder Ah
23:29 OldCoder He improved the old one
23:29 NekoGloop yup.
23:29 NekoGloop honestly I'm surprised 0.4.3 even runs that old one.
23:31 OldCoder NekoGloop, Somebody told me not to include throwing in Skyblock. Comments?
23:31 OldCoder Default set or Skyblock too?
23:31 RealBadAngel i think ive eaten the rubber tree
23:31 NekoGloop getting sniped from afar because there's nothing in between two players: not fun
23:31 NekoGloop so no.
23:31 VanessaE skyblock ain't supposed to be PvP, so I don't see a reason for adding it honestly
23:31 RealBadAngel uploading
23:31 NekoGloop not in skyblock.
23:32 OldCoder RealBadAngel, O.K.
23:32 RealBadAngel lemme just check it offline
23:32 OldCoder k
23:33 NekoGloop be sure to make the treetap check for the technic:rubber_tree not the farming:rubber_tree
23:34 RealBadAngel good point
23:34 OldCoder Indicate when ready
23:35 NekoGloop also i think the screwdriver checks for it due to an issue with it acting as a bucket unintentionally.
23:35 OldCoder While we're at it, my copy of Mesecons is September 10. Have there been significant fixes since then?
23:36 NekoGloop pistons had a bugfix
23:36 NekoGloop so yeah
23:36 OldCoder Coming up then
23:37 RealBadAngel done the changes, checked
23:37 RealBadAngel uploading
23:37 NekoGloop oh wow, i found oldcoder
23:37 OldCoder ?
23:37 RealBadAngel synced
23:37 OldCoder k
23:37 OldCoder Checking things
23:37 NekoGloop on the server XD
23:37 OldCoder I do hang out
23:37 NekoGloop look at the server for a couple secs
23:38 RealBadAngel yummy, i just eaten the tree ;)
23:38 OldCoder Yes
23:38 OldCoder But updating shortly first
23:39 OldCoder Moment
23:39 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, ive removed bucket collection code
23:39 RealBadAngel so just your treetap is able to do anythin with it
23:40 OldCoder Updated mods so far today: farming, homedecor, mesecons, technic. Replaced Jeija's version of throwing with PilzAdams's version. Disabled anticheat to bypass possible bugs.
23:40 OldCoder Servers going down to install changes
23:41 RealBadAngel OldCoder, so the item name is now technic:rubber_sapling
23:41 OldCoder Servers up
23:41 OldCoder Giving you one
23:41 RealBadAngel wait, need to log in :)
23:41 OldCoder Indicate if I missed any of the changes listed above
23:42 NekoGloop please put the server up ^^
23:42 OldCoder It is
23:42 OldCoder When it cycles
23:42 OldCoder You must exit client and restart
23:42 NekoGloop i did
23:42 OldCoder Then checking logs
23:43 RealBadAngel hmmm, cant log in
23:43 OldCoder Which port?
23:43 RealBadAngel 0
23:43 OldCoder Seems fine in logs
23:43 NekoGloop 30000
23:43 OldCoder I probably forgot to press start
23:43 OldCoder Hold on
23:43 RealBadAngel lol
23:43 OldCoder Hmm
23:43 OldCoder No; looks like I did
23:43 NekoGloop you probably forgot to turn it on.
23:43 OldCoder One of the mods broke something
23:43 OldCoder Nope
23:43 OldCoder Working on this
23:44 RealBadAngel seein all the time "connectin to the server"
23:44 OldCoder Working
23:44 RealBadAngel and no response
23:45 OldCoder 23:44:14: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ModError: mod "throwing" has unsatisfied dependencies: "fire".
23:45 OldCoder Simple
23:45 OldCoder Give me a minute
23:45 OldCoder It was the P.A. mod
23:45 RealBadAngel k
23:45 OldCoder His throwing doesn't actually need fire, does it?
23:46 RealBadAngel lol, i just took a look at technic textures directory
23:46 RealBadAngel it holds already 154 textures
23:46 OldCoder Wait
23:46 OldCoder I need to patch throwing
23:46 OldCoder If I just delete fire_arrow.lua
23:46 RealBadAngel when the fuck i did that all?
23:46 RealBadAngel :)
23:46 OldCoder Will it work?
23:46 NekoGloop has fire arrows
23:46 NekoGloop yes
23:46 OldCoder So just delete the file and edit depends.txt
23:46 NekoGloop and remove fire from depends
23:46 RealBadAngel not really
23:47 RealBadAngel edit init luad
23:47 OldCoder Plus init.lua
23:47 RealBadAngel lua
23:47 RealBadAngel to not to load that specific file
23:47 OldCoder Yes
23:47 OldCoder And there's a line
23:47 OldCoder near the start
23:47 RealBadAngel dofile
23:47 OldCoder patching all this
23:47 OldCoder Hold on
23:48 NekoGloop next step: do a little victory dance
23:48 RealBadAngel and bring some beer
23:48 OldCoder Rebuilding worlds
23:48 NekoGloop ignore the alchoholic.
23:48 OldCoder Servers going down
23:49 RealBadAngel lol
23:49 NekoGloop servers were never up
23:49 * OldCoder shrugs
23:49 NekoGloop unless skyblock went up
23:49 OldCoder This is why I like to proceed cautiously
23:49 OldCoder But these are getting  into shape
23:50 OldCoder Try the servers now please
23:50 NekoGloop do we have the snow mod?
23:50 RealBadAngel connecting
23:50 OldCoder NekoGloop, checking
23:50 OldCoder NekoGloop, yes
23:51 NekoGloop oh cool.
23:51 NekoGloop or cold, however you look at it. :D
23:51 RealBadAngel im in the matrix
23:51 RealBadAngel ;)
23:51 RealBadAngel can see some texture error
23:52 OldCoder 16:48:45: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "farming_rubber_tree_full.png" while building texture
23:52 RealBadAngel hold on
23:52 OldCoder Finall!
23:52 OldCoder RealBadAngel, you have your sapling
23:52 OldCoder y*
23:52 OldCoder NekoGloop, try the bow now
23:54 RealBadAngel fixed the problem
23:54 OldCoder good
23:54 RealBadAngel synced now
23:54 OldCoder 16:48:45: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "farming_rubber_tree_full.png" while building tex
23:54 OldCoder Is that important?
23:55 RealBadAngel missed the texture renaming
23:55 OldCoder Another minor patch?
23:55 OldCoder No problem
23:55 RealBadAngel now its fixed, update the mod
23:55 OldCoder k
23:55 RealBadAngel and problem will be gone
23:56 OldCoder Servers cycling again
23:56 OldCoder NekoGloop, excuse this
23:56 RealBadAngel got the saplin, waitin for reboot
23:57 OldCoder Restarted with updated technic
23:58 RealBadAngel connectin
23:58 LAD joined #minetest
23:58 OldCoder LAD, wb
23:59 OldCoder NekoGloop, Will your home be in the logs?
23:59 OldCoder I can try to find it for yuo
23:59 OldCoder *you
23:59 LAD hi'
23:59 NekoGloop look for me placing a lot of wood/tree nodes
23:59 NekoGloop tell me the coordinates please XD
23:59 OldCoder Yep
23:59 OldCoder NekoGloop uses farming:hoe_wood, pointing at [node under=156,9,-1 above=156,10,-1]
23:59 OldCoder Does that help?
23:59 NekoGloop yes.

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