Time Nick Message 00:00 NekoGloop that is the api doc from minetest 00:00 NekoGloop he kinda abandoned the project ^^ 00:00 Uberi no, it's different 00:00 Uberi it's the API doc, improved 00:00 NekoGloop it's the api doc with "LINK HERE" all over the place 00:00 Uberi with tons more information and explanations that are actually understandable 00:01 Uberi NekoGloop: still, it's a good start :) 00:01 Uberi for example, does anyone know what the is_ground_content actually does? 00:01 khonkhortisan it has to do with map generation? 00:01 NekoGloop nope 00:01 NekoGloop does nothing 00:02 Uberi as far as I can tell, does nothing, yeah 00:02 NekoGloop no, it's been said here by c55 that it does nothin 00:06 khonkhortisan "_ _ _" makes a line across my pull request, how do I make it show as-is? 00:06 khonkhortisan oic 00:08 Uberi khonkhortisan: use the escape char, \ 00:08 khonkhortisan I used ``` to separate it as code 00:08 khonkhortisan but that works better 00:10 NekoGloop math.randomseed(os.time()) serves what purpose in ore generation? 00:10 khonkhortisan yuck, that would make it so a seed doesn't create an exact copy 00:10 OldCoder Back later tonight 00:12 cornernote NekoGloop, thanks 00:12 cornernote looks better than the default one 00:12 NekoGloop ??? 00:12 Uberi NekoGloop: reseeds the PRNG 00:12 cornernote api txt 00:13 Uberi but now MT does that for you so it's redundant 00:13 cornernote sorry, went afk for a bit.. delayed response 00:13 NekoGloop ok 00:13 NekoGloop moreores uses redundant code 00:13 NakedFury is_ground_content = false, -- Currently not used for anything 00:14 Uberi no, it was written for an old version when that was necessary 00:14 Uberi NakedFury: what do you think it was planned for, though? 00:14 Uberi I can't imagine what it might be for 00:14 NakedFury for the ground? 00:14 cornernote things that don't float ? 00:14 NakedFury anything else no idea 00:15 NekoGloop needs to be a crash() function 00:15 cornernote probably got moved to groups={} something 00:15 cornernote when it collides with another node ? 00:15 cornernote you can kind of detect that 00:15 cornernote but it requires onstep to check its velocity 00:16 Uberi NekoGloop: function crash() nil.abc end 00:17 NakedFury https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/Better-Minetest-API/blob/master/Basic_Facts.txt#L191 00:17 NakedFury how does that work? is that the way to set the time of digging? 00:17 cornernote yes 00:18 NakedFury times= 1 2 3 are the time for that level block and the number 1.60 is 1 second 60 something before seconds? 00:19 khonkhortisan with quarter node high steps you can run down a hill at full speed without getting hurt 00:19 NekoGloop Uberi: GENIUS! 00:19 Uberi :P 00:20 Uberi also this API doc version was the first one to explain that higher group values mean longer digging times 00:20 Uberi I was really confused when the lua_api.txt just assumed I knew it was ascending order 00:20 cornernote which is a really strange (for lack of a better word) way to code it 00:20 NekoGloop function crash() local you_are_a_fucking_idiot = nil chat_send_all(you_are_a_fucking_idiot) end 00:21 cornernote i want a level 100 sword 00:21 NekoGloop or whatever. 00:21 NekoGloop minetest.chat_send_all* 00:21 Uberi cornernote: me too! 00:21 cornernote it kills anything thats within 10 nodes of me lol 00:21 Uberi haha 00:21 cornernote they just explode 00:21 Uberi including yourself :P 00:21 cornernote haha 00:21 cornernote but level 100 means its super crap 00:22 NakedFury too few levels right now 00:22 cornernote how anti-intuitive is that ?! 00:22 Uberi it's actually a sand sword 00:22 cornernote gravel sword 00:22 Uberi air sword 00:22 cornernote breaks as soon as you craft it 00:22 Uberi breaks before you craft it 00:22 cornernote should post that as a mod 00:23 cornernote level 100 air sword 00:23 Uberi hahaha 00:23 Uberi it has a blank inventory image 00:23 cornernote and you cant select it 00:23 Uberi and does nothing whatsoever 00:23 cornernote but trust me, its there 00:24 NakedFury sandsword: when it hits living flesh everything from the hilt up desintegrates. but in reality is that the sand moves to enter the enemies body through the cut. effect: dries out the victim, if they cant reach water area they will die. you need to find a new sand source to replenish the sword 00:24 MuadTralk nice 00:24 MuadTralk please tell me it exists 00:24 cornernote init.lua - minetest.log("action","[MOD] air_sword - has been loaded") 00:24 Uberi or they get +3 mild annoyance and -2 thirst 00:24 Uberi cornernote: mod of the year! 00:25 Uberi make sure you have a strategy guide to go with it 00:25 Uberi "care and maintenance of the air sword" 00:25 MuadTralk rule 1) make sure to not set down your air sword for it is the same colour as the air. 00:26 NakedFury air sword has a reach of 10 blocks 00:26 NakedFury hit for little but has fast attack rate 00:26 MuadTralk 2) striking someone with the air sword will cause them to feel a mild breeze 00:26 Uberi it causes +5 mild annoyance and +2 taunt 00:26 cornernote needs to have a strong licence too... cant be GPL 00:26 NakedFury fire is the natural counter 00:27 Uberi incredible stats 00:27 MuadTralk cc-by-sa? 00:27 MuadTralk :D 00:27 Uberi no, you need to sell the strategy guide separately 00:27 Uberi first page is a bunch of screenshots of people using the air sword 00:28 Uberi the rest of the 79 pages are cat pictures 00:28 NakedFury license: its the internet so you actually do what ever the f-bomb you want with this BUT if I find you taking credit I will forum stalk you forever 00:28 NakedFury that is your license 00:29 MuadTralk the F!@* licences you mean? 00:29 Uberi ...I'll just stick with the AGPLv3 00:31 NekoGloop NakedFury: that would be WTFPLGMC 00:32 NakedFury too many initials, people wont be googling that 00:32 NakedFury people dont google even agpl 00:33 Uberi that's why I write a blurb at the bottom of the README explaining the basics 00:36 cornernote http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3281 00:36 Uberi :D 00:36 Uberi D: 00:37 cornernote this is what happens when i cant think of anything to code 00:37 Uberi cornernote: go code a cure for cancer in MT 00:37 cornernote there is a cancer mod ? 00:38 Uberi go make a cancer mod 00:38 Uberi then go make a mod that cures it 00:39 Uberi http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=45970#p45970 00:54 cornernote ok, i think its ready to be moved to mod releases now 00:54 cornernote im pretty happy that there are no bugs or issues 01:45 jordan4ibanez mesecons is highly unpredictable 01:46 cornernote hey jordan4ibanez 01:46 jordan4ibanez hi cornernote 01:46 Uberi jordan4ibanez: how so? 01:46 jordan4ibanez i'll make a vid to show how so in a second 01:46 cornernote im trying to make conway's game of life, its mostly predictable even on a huge circuit 01:47 cornernote i just am stuck on the toggle switch 01:47 jordan4ibanez i somehow figured out how to do like 30 ticks per second 01:47 jordan4ibanez and then the circuit locks up 01:47 cornernote can u share the *.wem file ? 01:47 cornernote do //metasave in we 01:47 Uberi cornernote: ics have a T-FF button built in 01:48 Uberi jordan4ibanez: that is a limitation of the MT server 01:48 cornernote yeah, i dont like it, i made my own TFF 01:48 Uberi sapier opened an issue and pull request 01:48 Uberi jordan4ibanez: if a circuit sim takes too long to run, dt will grow unbounded and the server will do wierd things 01:49 Uberi cornernote: why? it's the most compact T-FF possible! 01:49 cornernote can u paste it ? 01:49 cornernote i dont have mesecons on at the moment 01:49 cornernote i'll find my code 01:50 Uberi cornernote: one moment 01:50 Uberi cornernote: if(A)sbi(1,1); if(!A&B)off(B)sbi(1,0); if(!A&!B)on(B)sbi(1,0); :A is input, B is output (Q), toggles with falling edge 01:51 Uberi I think it can probably be made smaller but whatever 01:51 cornernote mine was not the same direction, let me make it a is input, b is output 01:52 Uberi oh I usually just do a find + replace on those 01:53 cornernote i gott think how mine worked :S 01:53 cornernote mine has a reset switch in it too 01:53 cornernote so im re-doing it without that 01:53 cornernote been ages since i did these bloody mc things 01:53 cornernote lol 01:54 cornernote how the hell did i build all those big contraptions :S 01:54 Uberi made a falling edge triggered register today, with an incrementer :) 01:54 Uberi cornernote: btw how did you do that random number gen in your rock paper scissors lizard spock map? 01:55 cornernote if(A)sbi(1,1);if(!A)sbi(B,!B)sbi(1,0); :A is input, B is output (Q), toggles with falling edge 01:56 Uberi neat 01:56 cornernote compacts the last IF into an SBI that checks its own port 01:58 cornernote and this one 01:58 cornernote if(A)sbi(1,1);if(!A)sbi(B,!B)sbi(1,0); if(C)off(B,1); :A is input, B is output, C is reset, toggles with falling edge 01:58 cornernote adds a reset 01:58 Uberi nice 01:58 cornernote can u make that one the default ? 01:59 cornernote and i think dont mention Q .. it makes it confusing 01:59 cornernote i guess its there cos thats what its called in all the electrical diagrams 01:59 Uberi cornernote: will do, it's on the todo now 01:59 cornernote the technical term for it 02:00 Uberi yeah it's more of a convention 02:01 cornernote the random number generator is like a 3bit counter (just keeps going from 0-7) 02:02 cornernote then when P1 chooses a number, i check what the current counter number is 02:02 cornernote it was the most complex part of the game 02:02 cornernote the actual game was a piece of pie, really simple AND/OR logic 02:02 cornernote the counter took all the work 02:03 cornernote and getting it to give a number at the right time 02:03 cornernote and not keep changing 02:03 cornernote and to be "randomish" enough 02:04 Uberi cornernote: oh so it's a simple time based PRNG 02:04 cornernote if P1 chooses again right away, then they will probably be able to guess the outcome because the clock wont have enough time to become random 02:04 cornernote yep 02:04 Uberi I expected some sort of xorshift generator but that works as well :P 02:07 cornernote i started building a world of simple mesecons machines 02:07 cornernote counters and clocks and decoders and such 02:07 Uberi neat 02:07 cornernote but have no new ideas, so i kind of left it 02:08 Uberi cornernote: build an ALU! I'm building a loader and we can combine it to build a computer! 02:08 cornernote hey, maybe you have an idea on how to fix my conways game of life cell 02:08 Uberi then I'll write an assembler for it and a script to program it 02:08 cornernote its 99.99% working 02:08 cornernote and i have a cell.wem file that is wired to stack with others 02:08 Uberi and then... we will disassemble the MT binary and run MT in MT! 02:09 Uberi cool, cornernote, got a link? 02:09 cornernote so you can just copy it in, 10x10 02:09 cornernote but the problem is... 02:09 cornernote once you have your 10x10 (maybe a 4x4 is more practical) ... but once you have it you cant toggle the initial state 02:09 cornernote sec, i'll get the stuff 02:10 Uberi hmm 02:10 cornernote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway's_Game_of_Life#Examples_of_patterns 02:10 OldCoder Uberi I'm using worldedit. I hear that it's quite useful. 02:10 cornernote to make a simple oscillarot, i need 5x5 cells 02:10 Uberi OldCoder: quite :) 02:11 OldCoder cornernote, Have I mentioned that your mods seem to be performing perfectly? 02:11 cornernote well of course they would, i made them =) 02:11 Uberi cornernote: wouldn't 3x3 be enough for a blinker? 02:11 Uberi :P 02:11 cornernote yes, but you cant check if its intefering with the border ones 02:12 Uberi oh is it a wraparound design? 02:12 cornernote so, my problem is, i build 5x5, and then i have no way to turn them on 02:12 cornernote i have worked with a toggle switch, but it only half works... 02:12 cornernote eg, if the life is on, it will kill it, or visa versa... but then it wont toggle again 02:13 cornernote i'll get the wem file 02:13 Uberi hmm 02:13 cornernote here is the prototype (no connecting wires to other cells), it has buttons to emulate other cells 02:13 cornernote https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-worlds/blob/master/mesecons_circuits/schems/conways-game-of-life-cell-proto.wem 02:14 cornernote here it is with all the wires 02:14 cornernote https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-worlds/blob/master/mesecons_circuits/schems/conways-game-of-life-cell.wem 02:15 cornernote if you download the whole worlds repo (its not as big as it sounds), its in the mesecons_circuits world 02:15 Uberi I will definitely be looking through this one :) 02:18 OldCoder cornernote, what is the whole worlds repo 02:18 OldCoder ? 02:20 cornernote some of my worlds that i want to keep safe 02:20 OldCoder All right 02:21 OldCoder Do you wish to have any of them run publicly? If so are any built up to a reasonable extent? 02:21 cornernote its things like this - https://sites.google.com/site/cornernote/minetest/4-bit-decoder-to-7-segment-display 02:21 cornernote https://sites.google.com/site/cornernote/minetest/rock-paper-scissors-lizard-spock 02:21 OldCoder Ah 02:21 OldCoder Reviewing 02:22 OldCoder I want to run that. Will that be all right? 02:22 cornernote sure 02:22 OldCoder Goes up at some point then 02:22 cornernote maybe copy it with worldedit, and paste it into a world you have 02:22 OldCoder I have not learned MT sufficiently yet 02:23 cornernote use //metasave and //metaload so that it captures all the programming in the controllers 02:23 OldCoder If there is a way to combine several of these constructs I could host them in a single world and document them 02:23 cornernote for worldedit - use this - http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3112 02:23 OldCoder All right. The problem is that I am so terribly behind IRL 02:23 cornernote then you dont need to know any commands 02:23 OldCoder cornernote, I am also unwell 02:23 cornernote :( 02:23 OldCoder :-) 02:24 OldCoder I have greatly enjoyed setting up the server framework 02:24 OldCoder I will complete it and then... 02:24 OldCoder Document and release it 02:24 OldCoder Anybody who wishes... 02:24 cornernote 1 click deploy to amazon ? 02:24 OldCoder Will be able to set up a large group of worlds rapidly 02:24 OldCoder Hmm 02:24 OldCoder Go on 02:24 OldCoder Are you joking or serious? 02:24 cornernote cant you save your image and make it public ? 02:24 OldCoder Ah! 02:24 OldCoder The image does not matter! 02:24 OldCoder It is non-consequential 02:25 OldCoder The documentation; the tarball... 02:25 cornernote u have to choose an OS 02:25 OldCoder Yes 02:25 OldCoder That is the point 02:25 OldCoder I have produced something that should work under any Linux or BSD 02:25 OldCoder with a bit of elbow grease 02:25 cornernote ok, so they choose any image 02:25 OldCoder ? 02:25 OldCoder No... 02:25 cornernote with amazon 02:25 OldCoder I do things differently 02:25 cornernote any os 02:25 cornernote *nix/bsd 02:25 OldCoder The goal is to make a 1GB MT set 02:26 OldCoder Part of my Linux distro 02:26 OldCoder Or any Linux distro 02:26 OldCoder I will be able to add a number of nice features I think 02:26 OldCoder Eventually people will run 20 worlds at once 02:26 OldCoder All different sets of mods 02:26 OldCoder different *game forks 02:26 OldCoder Even different servers and clients 02:26 OldCoder But a single command 02:26 OldCoder Will update everything 02:26 OldCoder <--- He is sort of good at this 02:27 OldCoder 02:27 OldCoder I will proceed and keep you apprised 02:27 OldCoder The scissors paper thing will go in at some point 02:27 OldCoder 02:27 OldCoder I'd like... 02:27 OldCoder The best 0.3.X world if possible 02:27 OldCoder I can save it forever if somebody has a copy 02:27 OldCoder It will never die 02:27 OldCoder 02:28 OldCoder I can also host any fork 02:28 OldCoder 02:28 OldCoder All part of the framework. 02:28 M13 OldCoder really 02:28 M13 lolz 02:28 OldCoder M13, really 02:28 M13 go to PM 02:28 OldCoder All right 02:45 jordan4ibanez who wants to see the lag machine 02:45 Uberi I prefer to call it, my "laptop" 02:54 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/0d4WGooL1L0 02:54 jordan4ibanez LAG MACHINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 02:56 cornernote vid is slow to buff.. 02:56 cornernote have to say, game looks so nice compared to when i 1st played it 02:56 Uberi I'll say 02:57 cornernote just begging for objects that are 3d with joints 02:57 NekoGloop Meow. 02:57 cornernote looking for new ipad games last night 02:57 Uberi hi NekoGloop 02:57 cornernote found MC free 02:57 Uberi cornernote: hard to find good ones, eh? 02:57 NekoGloop I still only have mono sound. Fml. 02:58 cornernote they have 3d animals, with joints, etc 02:58 Uberi I'm tired of the 1000000th temple run clone 02:58 cornernote in my ipad! 02:58 NekoGloop cornernote: Mc ipad demo doesnt save. 02:58 cornernote thats not my point 02:58 Uberi cornernote: yeah I bought the full version, really fun 02:58 cornernote traitor! 02:58 cornernote lol 02:58 Uberi jordan4ibanez: are you using the pistons I updated a day or so ago? 02:58 Uberi :P 02:58 NekoGloop I have the full version so that when they price it the same as the pc one i have :P 02:58 Uberi I'd buy MT pocket edition if that existed too, actually 02:59 Uberi as long as it has mesecons 02:59 NekoGloop You wouldnt have to buy it lol 02:59 NekoGloop And i assume they'd somehow make it so you can get mods. 02:59 Uberi NekoGloop: if it funded development, I'd gladly pay about 2-10 dollars for it 02:59 cornernote id say keep it simple 02:59 Uberi NekoGloop: yeah lua compiles fine for iOS 02:59 cornernote like m13's mini version 02:59 Uberi woo ANSI compliant C 03:00 cornernote http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3185 03:02 Uberi wow that is amazing 03:03 NekoGloop Wow that is amazing 03:03 NekoGloop Someone on the minetest forums that made something that doesnt work for linux 03:03 NekoGloop Good job. 03:03 Uberi I wrote MeseconEdit and that doesn't work on linux :P 03:06 NekoGloop Yet supposedly "linux is the shit" 03:06 NekoGloop I'd remove the "the" from that sentence personally. 03:06 cornernote lol 03:06 cornernote OS flame war coming 03:06 * cornernote ducks 03:07 * NekoGloop shoots the duck 03:07 Uberi it's OK, I got my teflon suit 03:07 Uberi and a water bottle 03:09 jordan4ibanez i think linux is the best because it doesn't suck 03:09 Uberi bye everyone! 03:09 jordan4ibanez LOLOLAWLOLMAOLOROLF! 03:09 NekoGloop Linux sucks just as much, just not in the same ways. 03:11 Basstard` You can always use a different kernel. 03:11 icallitvera inb4 GNU/HURD 03:12 jordan4ibanez oh it does, but that main one, gaming, HURR DURR oh god that's what minetest is made for 03:12 jordan4ibanez herpederp 03:14 NekoGloop Linux sucks for gaming bacause not a lot of games are made for it. 03:14 NekoGloop That and it doesnt support directx natively. 03:15 jordan4ibanez so fucking what, direct is is the biggest pile of shit ever, windows is starting to suck and choke out it's users so badly that steam finally decided to make steam for linux, which runs faster with opengl then it does with directx 03:15 jordan4ibanez windows = the suck 03:15 NekoGloop Windows 8 sucks with its liscnecing, yes. 03:16 jordan4ibanez i used windows 7 ultimate for 2 weeks and i had to get rid of it, 140 dollars down the drain 03:16 NekoGloop Hm? 03:16 NekoGloop I'm not familiar with windows 7, what was the problem? 03:17 jordan4ibanez it sucks for developing, all windows os-s suck for developing 03:17 NekoGloop Developing of what? 03:17 jordan4ibanez anything 03:17 jordan4ibanez it's a big hassle on windows 03:17 NekoGloop Mods for minetest? 03:18 NekoGloop Or c++ source? 03:18 jordan4ibanez even that yes, notepad ++ is a buggy mess sadly 03:18 NekoGloop Heh. 03:18 NakedFury not really 03:18 NekoGloop I use notepad++ for all my mods 03:18 jordan4ibanez oh it is, maybe not on 32 bit, but on 64 bit it crashes quite often 03:18 NekoGloop Including what i did for technic. 03:18 NekoGloop Heh. 03:18 NakedFury it has never crashed for me 03:18 NekoGloop Get 32 bit then. 03:18 NakedFury notepad++ or geany or any other stuff 03:19 jordan4ibanez "get linux" 03:19 jordan4ibanez LOL 03:19 jordan4ibanez i argued with linucksfails2 for 2 months about this, i have every comeback in the book lol 03:19 NekoGloop Your book is missing a page... 03:20 Basstard` Sorry, had to wipe my arse. 03:20 NekoGloop my mouth* 03:20 NekoGloop FTFY 03:20 NekoGloop Same thing though. 03:20 jordan4ibanez if i were on windows, i'd never had created minetest fancy 03:21 Basstard` NekoGloop: You wiped your mouth with that? You're disgusting. 03:21 NekoGloop Heh. 03:21 NekoGloop jordan4ibanez: I'm making a gamemode myself here :/ 03:21 jordan4ibanez use geany 03:22 NekoGloop Nope. 03:22 jordan4ibanez notepad ++ sucks wieners from a new york hotdog stand 03:22 NekoGloop Notepad++. 03:22 Basstard` Kate 03:22 jordan4ibanez use dos 03:22 NekoGloop Notepad++ boots in <10 secs. 03:22 NekoGloop WITH having >20 files open. 03:23 jordan4ibanez geany starts up instantly with ANY amount of files open! 03:23 jordan4ibanez except for like 50, that pretty much asks for a 20 second start 03:23 Basstard` Emacs 03:23 NekoGloop The time also assumes you just started windows and are booting n++ 03:23 jordan4ibanez gimp 03:24 NekoGloop How the fuck does one use gimp to code?! 03:24 jordan4ibanez gimp use to be able to do text 03:24 jordan4ibanez in like 2002 03:24 jordan4ibanez "or sometime like that" 03:27 T_A_N_K windows bad things: you cannot modify your os legally, you can not distribute your os legally, you can not even use modifier programs to change how windows works legally, even though you can because there's not a windows moderator standing there watching you, the liscense is horrible 03:28 T_A_N_K what the hell happened to celeron55? 03:33 T_A_N_K bb 04:58 cornernote made a .bat file so windows users can have links to minetest://example.com:30000 that work 04:58 cornernote http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3272 05:08 NekoGloop Meow. 05:10 NekoGloop Watchin yogscast tekkit. 05:11 NekoGloop Cant wait until rba's got his pipes figured out. Also, unfortunatly for everyone using windows, he used on_step, so we'll get an error. Bummer. 05:18 GTRsdk hey neko259 05:18 GTRsdk err 05:18 GTRsdk NekoGloop: 05:18 NekoGloop XD 05:18 cornernote NekoGloop, use sfan5's builds 05:19 cornernote it shouldnt error 05:19 NekoGloop It does. 05:19 cornernote oh :( 05:19 cornernote ok 05:19 hmmmm hmm 05:19 NekoGloop Or it should. 05:19 hmmmm what if the emerge thread was more than one thread 05:20 hmmmm i'm looking at the environment lock and i'm thinking it's overly broad 05:21 hmmmm at the very least, multiple make_block() calls can be deferred over multiple worker threads of the emerge thread which handles the environment lock itself 05:21 hmmmm and the make_block calls don't lock anything, lighting is deferred to the emerge parent thread 05:30 GTRsdk Is there a way to generate a small map so less RAM is used? 05:30 NekoGloop Nope. 05:41 GTRsdk hmm 05:42 GTRsdk so if I understand this correctly, I would need to know C++ to modify it to always generate smaller maps? 05:42 Calinou "smaller maps"? you mean limiting world size? possible in lua 05:43 Calinou replace anything at (some X, Y or Z coordinate) with an invisible but walkable block 05:43 Calinou or glass 05:46 GTRsdk well basically to save on RAM and other resources 05:50 Calinou generating a wall of blocks doesn't take much resources 05:51 hmmmm he's an end user, he can't do that 05:53 GTRsdk lol hmmmm 05:54 hmmmm to me, it seems like something that'd be way better implemented in the engine 05:54 hmmmm can simply not queue a block generation if it's outside of the user-specified bounds 05:55 hmmmm iirc it's already hardcoded for +-32768 05:57 * GTRsdk greps for that in the code 05:57 hmmmm so you're able to modify and compile the source on your own? 05:57 hmmmm i'll find the line number for you 05:59 GTRsdk hmm... I see multiple occurrences of it. Is it only 1 spot that has to be changed? 05:59 hmmmm GTRsdk: constants.h, line 63 05:59 hmmmm change the value of MAP_GENERATION_LIMIT to whatever you'd like 06:00 GTRsdk Thanks 06:00 hmmmm yw 06:00 GTRsdk 3 block world! :D 06:00 RealBadAngel hi 06:01 GTRsdk nah just kidding 06:01 hmmmm haha, that'd be 0 06:01 hmmmm probably crash 06:01 GTRsdk hmmmm: Would unmodified clients work with a server with a smaller/larger map? 06:02 hmmmm yes 06:02 hmmmm you shouldn't make it larger than 31000, there would be problems 06:22 OldCoder Zzz 06:30 Calinou he's an end user, he can't do that 06:30 Calinou see bedrock mod 06:30 Calinou now do 5 other walls like this = world size actually limited 06:30 hmmmm oh, why didn't you just say there's a mod for it 06:34 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/src/mapgen.cpp < so dungeon generation code is still there? why is it disabled? 06:38 Calinou khonkhortisan: added pull request :D 06:42 cornernote windows installer wizard (done) - http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3283 06:43 * Calinou updated to chromium 24 06:43 * Calinou enabled "do not track" 06:58 tripod awesome 06:58 tripod hopefully luakit does the same using smae webkit version 06:59 khonkhortisan yay! 07:13 khonkhortisan Calinou, know a good recipe for right-handed half stairs? 07:14 khonkhortisan Anyone use a graphical git client other than windows github? 07:14 whirm khonkhortisan: gitg 07:18 khonkhortisan huh. git-gui forgot to put itself in $PATH. I guess I won't use it then. 07:18 khonkhortisan installing gitg... 07:19 Bonsaiheld hello 07:20 Bonsaiheld i just registered on irc to ask something... i'm playing on a server, where the admin doesnt seem to have any mod installed which could help me. my problem: i'm stuck inside a hole i made, i can't get out and i can't suicide. is there any built-in command like /killmyself or something? :( 07:20 Bonsaiheld if not, i have to wait for the admin to come online... reset me and then install a mod for this. 07:21 khonkhortisan Congratulations for registering on irc! 07:21 Bonsaiheld :) 07:22 khonkhortisan do you have interact privileges? Did the ground reappear when you dug it? 07:23 khonkhortisan You should be able to get out by digging up and jumping, or by placing stuff under you and jumping. 07:23 Bonsaiheld the /privs command says something about "interact"... and i think you mean lagg. na, there isnt. i just cant get out, im deep under the surface, like -280 07:23 Bonsaiheld oh i forgot. i cant dig anything -> no sticks left 07:24 Bonsaiheld and i cant built something to jump from because the caves i made a too small for this 07:24 RealBadAngel no /harakiri or /seppuku ? ;) 07:24 Bonsaiheld gonna try, but i dont think :P 07:24 RealBadAngel ask some1 to come to you and bring some resources needed 07:24 Bonsaiheld no one online 07:24 Bonsaiheld we only got like 3-4 players ;) 07:25 khonkhortisan yeah, minetest is still macgyver-proof 07:25 Bonsaiheld (server is run on a tiny PandaBoard and SD-flashcard) 07:25 khonkhortisan I could get you out maybe 07:25 Bonsaiheld i dont know how u would do that but u can try 07:26 Bonsaiheld etwas.selfhost.me : 30000 07:26 Bonsaiheld oh yeah, i think u can just dig down to me and rescue me LOL 07:27 Bonsaiheld oh no, wait 07:27 whirm lol, there are even rescue operation in minecraft! 07:28 khonkhortisan /spawn, /home, /kill, all are mods 07:28 Bonsaiheld no no... u cant help me. the admin has made that no new player has rights to do anything. u cant even dig blocks. :( 07:28 Bonsaiheld forgot that, sorry :/ darn 07:28 khonkhortisan then you need to have a chat with the admin. 07:28 Bonsaiheld meh. 07:28 khonkhortisan gameboom is set up like that 07:29 Bonsaiheld ok, then i just have to wait... thank you 07:32 Calinou Anyone use a graphical git client other than windows github? 07:32 Calinou lol graphical clients... 07:32 Calinou winblows github is meh 07:34 khonkhortisan I learned cli git, I wanted to see what graphical was like, and wine won't load the github one 07:50 Bonsaiheld anyway... thanks for wanting to help, i really appreciate that. im out then. see ya (: 08:45 Calinou the CLI git is just fine and works 08:47 cornernote windows client works fine for me 08:47 cornernote when it doesnt, command line works fine too 08:53 Calinou the commandline git on windows is terrible 08:53 Calinou it isn't even official 14:31 thexyz khonkhortisan: gitk 14:53 Jordach hello :) 14:53 Jordach hello sfan5 14:53 sfan5 hi 14:53 Jordach OldCoder - good morning 14:57 OldCoder Jordach, hello 14:57 Jordach PC-BSD, Y U BURN SO SLOW?! 14:58 OldCoder CUZ I AM ALL LAID BACK 14:58 OldCoder BERKELEY YOU KNOW 14:58 OldCoder 14:58 OldCoder :-) 14:58 OldCoder 14:58 OldCoder <--- He was there 14:58 OldCoder 14:59 Jordach sfan5 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=46046#p46046# 14:59 Jordach move my old wool and panes into old mods 15:00 sfan5 done 15:01 Jordach sfan5, geez alexcraft can revive dead topics 15:01 Jordach gets annoying with the clone requests 15:08 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 15:09 OldCoder PilzAdam, Hello 15:09 Jordach hello PilzAdam 15:18 NakedFury hello peoples 15:29 Jordach bbl 15:32 jordan4ibanez good day 15:33 PilzAdam sup, jordan4ibanez 15:34 jordan4ibanez nothing 15:34 jordan4ibanez i cannot push minetest any further 15:34 jordan4ibanez it irritates me that this is the limit 15:35 PilzAdam when will be lets play part 2? 15:35 jordan4ibanez later hopefully 15:35 jordan4ibanez ive got ffmpeg to record full speed 15:44 PilzAdam bbl 15:46 jordan4ibanez i wonder if it would be possible to push everything back into c++ 15:59 NekoGloop Mornin peoples 16:05 RealBadAngel morning gloopes 16:05 NekoGloop Heh. 16:05 RealBadAngel :) 16:05 RealBadAngel howdy? 16:05 NekoGloop You workin on tubes? 16:06 RealBadAngel a little, got lotsa work irl 16:06 NekoGloop Heh. 16:06 RealBadAngel really, lately im workin 12-14 hrs/day 16:07 RealBadAngel its end of the season, now everybody is in hurry 16:07 NekoGloop True. 16:07 RealBadAngel investors are idiots 16:08 RealBadAngel when winter ends nobody thinks bout doors, windows etc 16:08 RealBadAngel because summer comes 16:08 NekoGloop Then the bugs come xD 16:08 RealBadAngel when it ends, everybody comes, and says me me me i was 1st 16:09 RealBadAngel half of the season we r sittin waitin for customers 16:09 RealBadAngel doin almost nothin 16:09 RealBadAngel then at the end we workin at two shifts 16:10 NekoGloop I'm working on a gamemode. 16:10 RealBadAngel customers are fuckin idiots 16:10 RealBadAngel that will never change 16:10 NekoGloop I need crops for my farming, have any ideas? 16:11 RealBadAngel harvest idiots heads 16:11 NekoGloop XD 16:11 RealBadAngel i will be pleased then 16:11 NekoGloop I could do that xD 16:11 RealBadAngel go for it 16:11 NekoGloop But i mean things with a use. 16:11 NekoGloop Actual crops. 16:12 NekoGloop I'm just flat out of ideas. 16:12 RealBadAngel with a head? 16:12 RealBadAngel football game 16:12 NekoGloop No. XD 16:12 RealBadAngel or polo 16:12 * PilzAdam is back 16:12 NekoGloop Hello adam 16:12 RealBadAngel hi adam 16:12 RealBadAngel shoes off, end of work for today 16:13 RealBadAngel anybody want to smell the socks? ;) 16:13 NekoGloop Have you thought of making a quarry? 16:13 NekoGloop Your way of powering things though would complicate it a bit. 16:14 RealBadAngel the quarry? 16:14 RealBadAngel not really 16:14 RealBadAngel quarry head will be made out of nodebreakers 16:14 NekoGloop Well i've been watching yogscast tekkit. :P 16:14 RealBadAngel attached to frames 16:15 RealBadAngel mesecons pulse, collect, head down, pulse, head up, forward 16:15 RealBadAngel repeat 16:16 NekoGloop Hm... 16:16 RealBadAngel ive made such machine in mc 16:16 RealBadAngel took me two weeks 16:16 NekoGloop I know mc can do it with some mods. 16:16 rubenwardy1 GitHub is acting wierd today 16:18 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, im talkin bout real machine, consist of hundreds of blocks (nodes) 16:18 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: You should make a machine that when it has a mesecon signal, gives out power. 16:18 RealBadAngel complex electronic circuit to control it 16:18 NekoGloop And i know what you mean lol. 16:18 RealBadAngel all build such way you can go through water, lava or stone 16:19 RealBadAngel or stand aside and controll it with remote 16:19 RealBadAngel thats the real power of complex mods 16:20 RealBadAngel you can invent something here 16:20 NekoGloop Yup. 16:20 RealBadAngel and thats the real freedom of sandox game 16:21 RealBadAngel with given tools build somethin authors wouldnt even imagine 16:21 RealBadAngel thats the real power of minetest like games 16:21 jordan4ibanez dirt is what is causing massive holes in superflat 16:22 RealBadAngel ive read the topic in theisonews.com about casual games 16:22 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: It cant be too hard to make the pipes transport liquid, can it? 16:22 RealBadAngel one idiot put minecraft and whole genre together with tetris and pacman 16:23 RealBadAngel and asked "i played minecraft for 10 minutes and i cant understand why milions like it" 16:23 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, not at all, same as items 16:24 RealBadAngel when items are done, so are liquids 16:24 NekoGloop Cept you used on_step 16:24 RealBadAngel no, i didnt 16:24 NekoGloop on_step crashes in windows. 16:24 RealBadAngel well 16:24 NekoGloop Says something about trying to index a number. 16:24 RealBadAngel i did 16:24 RealBadAngel but prevented any possible errors 16:25 RealBadAngel im double checkin for nils etc 16:25 NekoGloop Can you make an option like "on_step_allow=false" or something? 16:25 RealBadAngel im doin better 16:25 NekoGloop Wait, lemme get on my computer to see if it actually does crash with your implementation. 16:25 RealBadAngel when its interrupted, by save 16:25 RealBadAngel or a crash, not caused by me 16:26 RealBadAngel which means actual data loss 16:26 NekoGloop Crash is most likely part of mt. 16:26 RealBadAngel i do check if object still exists (is loaded back), so the variables exists 16:32 khonkhortisan gitg, which whira told me about, doesn't understand that origin can have both a push and a pull repo. 16:34 khonkhortisan gitk looks better 16:37 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: they work! omg! 16:37 NekoGloop but they just dump the items instead of putting them in anywhere. 16:37 RealBadAngel what works? 16:38 NekoGloop tubes 16:38 RealBadAngel ofc they do work 16:38 RealBadAngel iventory search and destination is not done 16:38 NekoGloop tubes wont connect to anything though. 16:38 RealBadAngel they can 16:39 RealBadAngel to anything marked as tubedevice=1 16:39 NekoGloop eh... 16:39 RealBadAngel so deployers, nodebreakers and gold chests by now 16:39 NekoGloop i hate people who think that i can magically automatically have everything at the latest version 16:40 RealBadAngel automagically you should say 16:40 RealBadAngel hehehe 16:40 RealBadAngel saturday i will have next free day 16:41 RealBadAngel so i will finish the path and destination code 16:41 NekoGloop sweet 16:41 NekoGloop I shall work on my gamemode 16:41 RealBadAngel path is already here 16:41 RealBadAngel i just have to sort it reverse 16:41 RealBadAngel from destination, through parents 16:42 RealBadAngel and then just follow it 16:42 RealBadAngel i made deep search with parents remeberin variation 16:42 NekoGloop can you, by chance, give me the improved furnace code you claim to have? 16:43 RealBadAngel its already in the code you have access to 16:43 RealBadAngel take electric furnace 16:43 T_A_N_K time for superflat haxxx! 16:43 RealBadAngel and treat energy buffer as to be filled with coal burn time 16:44 NekoGloop i asked a question. 16:44 RealBadAngel replace energy with burn time 16:44 NekoGloop how the fuck do i do thaT? 16:44 RealBadAngel and take it from coal or anythin burnable 16:44 RealBadAngel and then you will have nice and sweet buffered furnace 16:45 NekoGloop dude. I want what i asked for. 16:45 RealBadAngel with readable code 16:45 RealBadAngel ok 16:45 RealBadAngel got a crate of beer? 16:45 NekoGloop no. 16:45 RealBadAngel so no furnace ;) 16:46 NekoGloop 1) too young to drink 16:46 NekoGloop 2) no 16:46 NekoGloop gimme furnace. 16:46 RealBadAngel 1) too old to not to drink 16:46 RealBadAngel 2) yes 16:46 RealBadAngel .. gimme that duckin crate 16:47 NekoGloop here: http://thetekkit.wikia.com/wiki/Empty_Booze_Barrel 16:47 RealBadAngel on the other hand its not as hard for this evening 16:47 RealBadAngel want me to make the furnace now? 16:47 NekoGloop yes. 16:48 RealBadAngel ok then 16:48 khonkhortisan someone either has to be on the forum or the server for some time before being old enough to drink 16:48 RealBadAngel gimme 30-60 minutes then 16:48 RealBadAngel hehhee 16:49 RealBadAngel shut up now and dance, im goin to code 16:49 RealBadAngel but wait 16:49 RealBadAngel got an idea 16:50 RealBadAngel find a way to swith on/off fly mode 16:51 RealBadAngel without terminal commands 16:51 RealBadAngel ive made jetpack and lackin the way to activate/deactivate it 16:52 khonkhortisan isn't flying in the client? 16:52 RealBadAngel dunno, havent played with it 16:52 khonkhortisan I think it is (based on there being a flying cheat) 16:52 NekoGloop yes. 16:52 RealBadAngel i need to turn it on when jetpack is active 16:52 NekoGloop free_move. 16:53 NekoGloop good luck getting the going through blocks fixed though. 16:53 RealBadAngel and turn it off when run out of energy or deactivated 16:53 khonkhortisan you'd have to write your on physics collider in lua 16:53 RealBadAngel not rly 16:53 RealBadAngel all is alredy here 16:54 khonkhortisan if in_node move_player(find_air()) 16:54 VanessaE hi 16:54 khonkhortisan hello 16:54 RealBadAngel thats for sure 16:54 PilzAdam hi 16:54 RealBadAngel hi VanessaE 16:54 RealBadAngel it could be not logical to allow fly with jetpack through stone 16:55 khonkhortisan you need the OO flag 16:55 RealBadAngel but 1st what is needed to on/off fly mode 16:55 khonkhortisan (oscillation over-thruster) 16:56 khonkhortisan /grant only lets them turn it on themselves 16:56 NekoGloop how do i make a value in a variable negative? 16:56 PilzAdam *-1 16:56 NekoGloop eh? 16:56 khonkhortisan a = -a 16:56 PilzAdam or a = a*-1 16:57 khonkhortisan if a > 0 a = -a 16:57 PilzAdam -math.abs(a) 16:57 khonkhortisan ^ 16:57 khonkhortisan a = -math.abs(a) 16:58 NakedFury if 1 + 1 = 2 then a = 3 -1 16:58 khonkhortisan that's a test for a number system other than decimal? 16:59 NakedFury no idea, just wanted to join the math conversation 16:59 NakedFury :D 16:59 NekoGloop ok, i just made my treasure chests have items in them based on the level of the chest. 16:59 NekoGloop (stack numbers included.) 17:00 khonkhortisan moreores pickaxes need spaces in their descriptions 17:00 * PilzAdam reworked the signs mod of xyz: http://ompldr.org/vZnI1Nw/signs.zip 17:00 PilzAdam the mod now has a easier input system 17:00 NekoGloop Khon: ??? 17:01 khonkhortisan "Gold Axe" "GoldPickaxe" "Gold Shovel" the pickaxe needs a space 17:01 NekoGloop it has one 17:01 NekoGloop :P 17:01 khonkhortisan maybe I should update 17:02 OldCoder Update is Great 17:02 OldCoder Not always 17:03 VanessaE speaking of updates, homedecor got another this morn. 17:03 VanessaE could use some testers on this one 17:03 OldCoder VanessaE, is it ready to go? 17:03 VanessaE yes 17:03 OldCoder Is it on with the show? 17:03 OldCoder Let me know 17:03 OldCoder So 17:03 OldCoder I can Update! 17:03 OldCoder 17:03 OldCoder Very Well; Ring the Bell 17:03 OldCoder update! 17:04 OldCoder Servers going down 17:05 OldCoder Servers going up 17:06 OldCoder VanessaE, test homedecor in any world that contains it 17:06 VanessaE actually I need others to test it this time :-0 17:06 VanessaE :-) 17:06 OldCoder Oh? 17:06 OldCoder All right 17:06 OldCoder There's no fright 17:06 VanessaE tell me if there are any bugs I didn't catch 17:06 * VanessaE rewrote doors from scratch 17:06 OldCoder It is up to you to recruit such testers 17:06 VanessaE nodebox-based, entirely new open/close/flip code 17:07 OldCoder Sounds nice 17:07 OldCoder And price- 17:07 OldCoder less 17:07 OldCoder I want more worlds! 17:07 OldCoder :-) 17:07 OldCoder So nobody saved the best of the 0.3 worlds? Too bad 17:08 NekoGloop material bricks, what materials should i use from the default game? 17:08 NekoGloop (like moreblocks stone bricks, just different thingies ^^) 17:08 VanessaE anything you want :D 17:08 OldCoder RealBadAngel, check out new homedecor as VanessaE says it you will adore. More homedecor. 17:09 VanessaE (translation: huh?) 17:09 OldCoder Homedecor is to adore 17:09 NekoGloop you do know that the stone bricks are from homedecor? 17:09 NekoGloop ugh. 17:09 NekoGloop moreblocks* 17:09 NekoGloop not homedecor. 17:09 OldCoder Who me? You see. I cannot tell. 17:09 OldCoder I assume you speak to VanessaE 17:09 RealBadAngel negative means just multiply it by -1 17:10 RealBadAngel so no abs needed 17:10 khonkhortisan than a negative turns into a positive. I believe the goal was to make it negative. 17:10 RealBadAngel - times - will give + 17:10 NekoGloop the goal was to make it invert 17:10 khonkhortisan oh. 17:10 VanessaE NekoGloop: of course I know, just didn't quite understand what you were getting at regarding "other" bricks 17:10 RealBadAngel from - invert is + 17:11 VanessaE (materials that is) 17:11 NekoGloop like sandstone, desert stone... 17:11 VanessaE oh. not sure really 17:11 VanessaE I never thought to take a count of them 17:11 RealBadAngel anyways: losing the sign is math.abs(number) 17:12 RealBadAngel inverting is =number * -1 17:12 OWNSyouAll VanessaE: is there any documentation of adding custom ores into the world generation? 17:12 VanessaE OWNSyouAll: only what's in the API, and I've never read up on how ore generation works 17:12 VanessaE NekoGloop would knoew 17:13 VanessaE :-) 17:13 RealBadAngel abs stands for absolute 17:13 RealBadAngel no matter the sign 17:13 OWNSyouAll NekoGloop: is there any documentation of adding custom ores into the world generation? 17:13 NekoGloop no documentation but i can help you. 17:13 RealBadAngel OWNSyouAll, read moreores mod code 17:14 NekoGloop nonono 17:14 RealBadAngel that explains everythin 17:14 NekoGloop you'll just confuse the shit out of him 17:14 RealBadAngel no it wont 17:14 RealBadAngel i did and have my own ores 17:14 NekoGloop look in default\mapgen.lua 17:14 OWNSyouAll NekoGloop: ok i got the function from mapgen.lua but i just don't know what any of the variables in that function do like chunks_per_volume, chunk_size, ore_per_chunk, 17:14 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: you ~= everyone else 17:14 NekoGloop oooh. ok. 17:15 RealBadAngel added Zinc for VanessaE yesterday 17:15 RealBadAngel its easy as well eating cakes 17:16 NekoGloop well, chunks_per_volume affects the rarity.... somehow. chunk_size is how large each "chunk" of ore should be at max. ore_per_chunk is how many ore should be in each "chunk". Think of the "chunks" as mineral deposits, because that's what they are. 17:16 RealBadAngel OWNSyouAll, dowload moreores, and look for old_init.lua 17:16 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: stfu, you arent helping. 17:16 RealBadAngel thats better for understanding 17:16 OWNSyouAll RealBadAngel: generate_ore("moreores:mineral_copper", "default:stone", minp, maxp, seed+16, 1/11/11/11, 8, -31000, 64) 17:16 OWNSyouAll that is all thats in moreores 17:16 OWNSyouAll it dosent help much 17:16 NekoGloop OWNSyouAll: read what i said above. 17:16 RealBadAngel need explanations for the numbers? 17:17 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: i dont think he needs your help. 17:18 RealBadAngel Calinou made a version with variables instead of those numbers 17:18 OWNSyouAll in moreores they set chunks_per_volume to 1/11/11/11 17:18 OWNSyouAll is that supposed to mean there is one ore per a 11 block 3d-space? 17:18 RealBadAngel i helped him a bit with it, so im sure 17:18 RealBadAngel so its more readable for sure 17:19 NekoGloop OWNSyouAll: I'm not sure what that does. But whatever it does, it doesnt seem to affect much. 17:19 RealBadAngel wait 17:19 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: WILL YOU JUST STFU ALREADY?! 17:19 RealBadAngel and meanwhile dance 17:19 RealBadAngel generate_ore("moreores:mineral_mithril", "default:stone", minp, maxp, get_next_seed(), 17:19 RealBadAngel 1/moreores_mithril_chunk_size/moreores_mithril_chunk_size/moreores_mithril_chunk_size, moreores_mithril_ore_per_chunk, moreores_mithril_min_depth, moreores_mithril_max_depth) 17:20 RealBadAngel thats with variables 17:20 NekoGloop that doesnt help. 17:20 NekoGloop he wants to know what they do. 17:22 RealBadAngel no comments. i think the line i posted is self explanatory 17:24 NekoGloop and your mind is equivalent to a supercomputer. 17:24 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=46071 17:24 NekoGloop just because you and i understand it, doesnt mean he has any idea what you jsut said. 17:24 RealBadAngel ha ha ha, laughed the queen and went to wash the socks... 17:24 NekoGloop PilzAdam: good. now make them not look like crap. 17:25 MiJyn hi 17:25 PilzAdam hi 17:25 NekoGloop I.E. limit the lines so that the textures dont look like shit 17:25 PilzAdam they are 17:25 VanessaE PilzAdam: think you could work in multiple font sizes? (one size per sign) 17:26 PilzAdam VanessaE, move it to mod releases 17:27 VanessaE PilzAdam: need a version number in the subject, and an updated screenshot would be good. 17:27 VanessaE (xyz's screenshots sucked last time I looked :-) ) 17:27 NakedFury is it possible to link command inputs to signs? example: /giveme or /give Stone 30. Sign says Stone and when you hit it it gives the player the amount listed. Only admins could do this or players with the priviladge. 17:28 VanessaE *looks again* yeah, they still suck :D 17:28 VanessaE PilzAdam: I made some nice textures for those signs btw 17:28 VanessaE at least in HDX; scaled down, and tinted a bit, they look good at 16px too 17:30 VanessaE PilzAdam: also, add a note for the minimum version of the game (by git commit hash) that is needed for signs to work and not glitch out 17:30 PilzAdam all done: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=46071#p46071 17:31 VanessaE nice 17:32 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I see you are technicing 17:32 RealBadAngel im testin my stuff in multiplayer 17:32 NekoGloop limit the stuff to 4 lines 17:32 VanessaE PilzAdam: moved 17:32 NekoGloop ( PilzAdam ) 17:33 PilzAdam NekoGloop, what? 17:33 NekoGloop limit it to 4 lines 17:33 PilzAdam why? 17:33 PilzAdam because MC has it? 17:34 NekoGloop because if not, and you get farther away, it looks like shit. 17:34 * PilzAdam is testing... 17:34 NekoGloop unreadable. 17:34 VanessaE PilzAdam: larger font sizes would really be appreciated - I find the one thexyz and you used to be too small to read from a distance. 17:34 MiJyn I think I'm gonna abandon the project 17:34 VanessaE MiJyn: abandon what, MT? why? 17:35 PilzAdam VanessaE, i dunno how to change the font size; ive only changed the input system 17:36 VanessaE PilzAdam: literally, you just use a larger size in the images - I tried it once. I didn't change the line spacing, but simply using larger images was enough to change their visible size 17:36 MiJyn VanessaE, the APIs... C55 doesn't want them, and what's the use of making APIs that no one is going to use? 17:36 VanessaE e.g. a 15-pixel tall "A" instead of 6 or whatever it is now 17:36 VanessaE MiJyn: what APIs? 17:37 MiJyn VanessaE, the vehicle/mob ones 17:37 PilzAdam /giveme VanessaE:font_textures 17:37 NakedFury but they are needed 17:37 VanessaE PilzAdam: the "A" was drawn 15 pixels tall, overlapping the line below 17:37 NekoGloop MiJyn: ignore what c55 says. I'd use them. 17:37 NakedFury we would ALL use them 17:37 VanessaE I might be convinced to make a larger font later :-) 17:37 PilzAdam VanessaE, i will try to make it larger 17:38 NakedFury im gonna be frank. minetest(and minecraft)without modding would not interest me at all 17:38 NakedFury what keeps them alive is modding 17:38 NakedFury if you do mobs then make an api, I am 100% sure everyone would use it 17:39 MiJyn NakedFury, I'm not sure ALL would be the correct word (recompiling minetest...) 17:40 NakedFury ok then do a survey on the forums. survey or poll 17:40 NakedFury just ask if the chance came would people use the api or not 17:42 MiJyn hmm 17:48 NekoGloop i have 3 igneous rocks! :D 17:49 NekoGloop obsidian, basalt, and pumice. 17:49 NekoGloop obsidian is water touching lava source 17:49 NekoGloop basalt is water source touching flowing lava 17:49 NekoGloop pumice is flowing water touching flowing lava 17:49 khonkhortisan So the lava in a moving volcano will create those rocks? 17:50 NekoGloop hm? 17:50 NekoGloop if you get a volcano, which is impossible btw, yes. 18:03 OldCoder No volcanoes? A major omission! :-) 18:04 PilzAdam OWNSyouAll, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=46078#p46078 18:06 NekoGloop OldCoder: as soon as i can, i will 18:07 OldCoder Lava buries the land. Very well. 18:08 khonkhortisan volcanoes and geysers are needed 18:09 NekoGloop sure. 18:09 VanessaE did anyone try this morning's homedecor update? 18:09 khonkhortisan no 18:09 VanessaE :( 18:09 khonkhortisan trying it now 18:10 khonkhortisan has the fridge been fixed? 18:10 VanessaE yes. 18:10 VanessaE as far as I know there are no major bugs or glitches 18:11 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZnI2cg 18:11 NekoGloop the start of a house from obsidian, basalt, and pumice. 18:12 VanessaE looks more like stone and wool for the basalt and pumice :-) 18:12 NekoGloop obsidian is the floor, basalt is the black parts of the walls, pumice is the white. 18:12 NekoGloop if you have a better texture, please, share. 18:12 khonkhortisan aw I can't place a fridge on the ceiling 18:12 VanessaE I don't :-) 18:13 VanessaE khonkhortisan: I know. 18:13 VanessaE that's deliberate :-) 18:13 khonkhortisan I know it would be easy to move it down one 18:14 khonkhortisan huh. A door will place on the ceiling. 18:14 VanessaE it shouldn't 18:14 khonkhortisan maybe because I have a special kind of door 18:14 VanessaE ? 18:15 khonkhortisan I have a right-handed door, the mod that did that might have modified the regular door 18:15 VanessaE ah 18:16 khonkhortisan Does your door place on ceilings? 18:16 VanessaE no 18:16 khonkhortisan ok 18:17 PilzAdam random: https://github.com/PilzAdam/item_drop/commit/12fdaab4cb9e8930b7a0bbd66919b374d9ba5a4e 18:19 NekoGloop make it check if the velocity of the dropped item is 0/nil 18:19 NekoGloop (0 or nil) 18:19 PilzAdam why? 18:20 khonkhortisan for throwing arrows maybe? 18:20 NekoGloop then it is only picked up if the item is immobile, so it's REALLY easy to drop them. :D 18:21 PilzAdam it works good at the current state 18:21 VanessaE does it still crash the server from time to time? ;-) 18:21 PilzAdam no... ? 18:21 VanessaE just giving you a hard time :-) 18:22 VanessaE last time I played with it, it crashed quite frequently particularly with mesecons 18:22 PilzAdam when was "last time"? 18:22 VanessaE a few weeks ago 18:23 VanessaE :-) 18:23 VanessaE so yeah I've been too lazy to update :D 18:23 PilzAdam i use it all the time and it never crahes 18:23 PilzAdam but mesecons has some strange effect on it 18:24 NekoGloop because derp 18:24 VanessaE define "strange effect" 18:24 PilzAdam e.g. if a wire turns to a reciever of a button, a mesecon wire is dropped 18:24 PilzAdam so i have 2 18:24 VanessaE weird 18:25 PilzAdam mesecon is strange 18:25 NekoGloop because of how it makes the wires change. 18:25 PilzAdam yep 18:25 PilzAdam it seems hacky 18:25 NekoGloop no, just uses the wrong function 18:26 NekoGloop and for removal of the previous node it should use... 18:26 * NekoGloop looks in lua api 18:26 NekoGloop instead of set_node it should use add_node 18:27 NekoGloop remove_node 18:27 NekoGloop oh wai 18:27 NekoGloop wait* 18:27 NekoGloop dammit celeron why the hell did you remove that functionality. 18:27 NekoGloop wait nvm 18:27 PilzAdam gtg 18:27 PilzAdam bye 18:27 NekoGloop currently it uses place_node, correct, VanessaE? 18:28 VanessaE NekoGloop: derp? 18:28 VanessaE ;) 18:28 VanessaE actually in mesecons I'm not sure what's used 18:28 NekoGloop answer the question please. 18:28 VanessaE in my code I use add_node(), remove_node(), and in one instance, dig_node() 18:28 NekoGloop i cant check because opening another tab in n++ i'll crash my computer 18:30 VanessaE mmmm 18:30 VanessaE yeah place_node is used in a couple of spots in mesecons 18:30 NekoGloop that's the problem 18:30 VanessaE namely in those receivers 18:30 NekoGloop replace it with add_node or set_node 18:30 NekoGloop (both do the same thing) 18:30 NekoGloop place_node emulates a player digging it and placing another node there. 18:31 VanessaE ah 18:31 rubenwardy1 what is the name of your village on Redcrab 0.4.3 server, VanessaE 18:32 VanessaE the only example of it in mesecons: Minetest-Textures-and-mods/mods/minetest-mod-mesecons/mesecons_receiver/init.lua: minetest.env:place_node(pos, {name = "mesecons:wire_00000000_off"}) 18:32 VanessaE rubenwardy1: "Greenvale" 18:32 NekoGloop try changing that to set_node 18:33 VanessaE you're probably right. I'll mention it to Jeija. 18:33 T_A_N_K wait a second, why does the creative inventory do this? why doesn't it just check if the player is on creative, then give the player 1 item which is infinite? 18:33 VanessaE (I don't wanna break something obscure) 18:34 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: likely because that's impossible 18:34 NekoGloop creative inventory is 100% lua 18:34 T_A_N_K but all you have to do is just add the item back into the inventory when they place it 18:34 VanessaE should give the player 9999 of the item, that would have the same effect. 18:34 NekoGloop I give the player 65535 in my gamemode 18:34 T_A_N_K = infinite item illusion 18:34 VanessaE now mind you, 18:34 khonkhortisan it could have infinite items if it stored item meta, and checked that item for the infinite metavariable when dropping 18:35 VanessaE frankly I think the concept of a "regular" inventory in creative mode is stupid 18:35 VanessaE at least as currently used 18:35 khonkhortisan you want more separation between the modes 18:35 NekoGloop khonkhortisan: itemstack can have meta. 18:35 khonkhortisan yeah 18:35 NekoGloop just... celeron didnt put any function to change it 18:35 khonkhortisan ? 18:36 NekoGloop it's there, you just can't put anything in it 18:36 NekoGloop all due to no "set_meta" for itemstack 18:36 VanessaE there should be a hotbar of course, but the CI menu on left should overtake the rest of the inventory space, and there should also be buttons to go to first/last page and maybe a handful of programmable shortcut buttons e.g. "Go to default", "Go to homedecor", etc. 18:36 T_A_N_K and also, why doesn't it just instantly break the item you punch? there is no need for a special ultra reset of the node drops, all you have to do is on punchnode, remove node, node update, bam instant block breaking 18:36 khonkhortisan meta = itemstack:get_metadata() meta:set_bool("infinite", true) ? 18:36 khonkhortisan it can't be done the same way as nodes? 18:37 NekoGloop i have no idea 18:37 NekoGloop havent messed around with it too much 18:37 NekoGloop but how do you make itemstack.metadata = meta when you're done? 18:37 NekoGloop oh wait, i just answered my own question. 18:37 khonkhortisan meta is a pointer-type thing 18:38 khonkhortisan when you change meta it changes where you got it from 18:38 VanessaE and the hotbar should automatically swap out whatever stack you drop something on for the stack that was dropped 18:38 NekoGloop VanessaE: this is possible. 18:38 VanessaE because now as it is, after a while you end up with a full inventory and no way to dump everything out when you're done 18:38 VanessaE you have to drag, drop, click, drag, drop, click... 20 or more times 18:39 NekoGloop I'm making a function to clear player inventory 18:39 VanessaE maybe just having a button to empty all but the hotbar would be enough. 18:39 VanessaE (need to always be able to keep something there such as a mese pick, torches, etc) 18:39 khonkhortisan git stash inventory; mv creative; git checkout master; git pop inventory 18:39 VanessaE haha 18:40 khonkhortisan which is worse, waiting for a pull request to be merged, or waiting for server owners to update the mod? 18:41 VanessaE waiting for server owners :-) 18:42 OldCoder VanessaE, But that can be dealt with 18:42 VanessaE yup 18:42 OldCoder If you *promise* 18:42 OldCoder to release only perfect mods 18:42 OldCoder That will not break my servers 18:42 OldCoder then they will obediently 18:42 OldCoder update automatically 18:42 OldCoder 18:42 OldCoder :-) 18:42 T_A_N_K i wish i could make mesecons torches update a lot faster 18:43 T_A_N_K oh wait... 18:44 khonkhortisan ugh I wanted to try out my new stairsplus commit, so I opened a new browser tab. Habits are good as long as you don't cross-wire them 18:45 khonkhortisan oh yeah, the not gate isn't wallmounted. 18:46 NekoGloop shouldnt be anyway. 18:46 VanessaE T_A_N_K: torches as inverters are obsolete :-) 18:46 NekoGloop but maybe we want vertical? 18:46 NekoGloop which uses torches 18:47 VanessaE ok almost obsolete :-) 18:52 OldCoder VanessaE, do you Twit? 18:52 khonkhortisan woohoo! walkable sierpinski! 18:54 OldCoder VanessaE, what was in the latest home decor changes? 18:54 VanessaE OldCoder: new doors, new wall-mounted lights 18:54 OldCoder k 18:54 OldCoder I am Twitting it 18:54 VanessaE rewrote all doors code to sweep that buggy old zlpdoors out of existence 18:54 VanessaE I have a twitter account but I do not use it. 18:54 khonkhortisan Made possible by that piece I'm looking at http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/8054445785/in/photostream/lightbox/ 18:54 OldCoder all right 18:55 OldCoder Reviewing 18:55 OldCoder That's a different pickaxes. Where does it come from? 18:55 NekoGloop Admin pick 18:55 OldCoder Ah 18:55 khonkhortisan admin pickaxe from calinou's maptools in a modpack with stairsplus 18:55 NekoGloop looks like Zanite from MC Aether though 18:56 khonkhortisan buy one get four free 18:56 NekoGloop how about buy zero get over nine thousand free? 18:56 khonkhortisan zero dig time and digging non-diggable stuff 18:56 NekoGloop i like that offer! :D 18:56 khonkhortisan do the work one time, get paid over and over :P 19:01 T_A_N_K xp mod http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3291 19:02 T_A_N_K people seem to be beefing on it because it is like minecraft, but it would open the door to mods like enchanting, spells, upgrades, economy, ranks, and other things 19:03 NekoGloop i need the follwing images: salt, iron (NOT STEEL, THE TWO ARE DIFFERENT NOW) ingots 19:03 NekoGloop default style please ^^ 19:11 rubenwardy bye 19:14 OldCoder LAD, wb 19:14 LAD thnx glad to be back XD 19:17 NekoGloop should i make obsidian bricks? 19:17 OldCoder Of course 19:17 khonkhortisan why not? 19:17 OldCoder Who would like to suggest a new mod today? 19:17 khonkhortisan But if you do, it could be tied into moreblocks and made into tiling 19:17 OldCoder Rather a mod I should add 19:18 NekoGloop well other than currently i need some use for it because RealBadAngel hasnt given me that improved furnace code yet... 19:20 NekoGloop I'm gonna make a furnace that runs at 2x speed, and one that runs at 3x speed 19:20 NekoGloop steel for the 2x one, obsidian for the 3x one 19:20 NekoGloop the steel one will use a furnace in the recipe 19:27 VanessaE bbl 19:28 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, sorry was busy talkin 19:28 RealBadAngel i got furnace stripped of any power usage 19:29 RealBadAngel and renamed 19:29 RealBadAngel will finish the code tommorow to burn the coal to fill the buffer 19:29 NekoGloop i dont want a buffer 19:30 RealBadAngel listen 19:30 RealBadAngel the idea is to cut it 19:30 RealBadAngel cook and get 19:30 RealBadAngel no matter what the power is used to cook 19:31 NekoGloop default furnace effect, your improvements. 19:31 NekoGloop that's all i want. 19:31 NekoGloop nothing gameplay-wise. 19:31 RealBadAngel lemme finish it tommorow then 19:31 NekoGloop I dont want it tomorrow~ 19:31 NekoGloop !* 19:31 NekoGloop I want it now! 19:32 RealBadAngel ive separeted furnace code from energy sources now 19:32 NekoGloop oh just screw it 19:32 khonkhortisan that requires a sonic screwdriver 19:32 RealBadAngel youre just impatient 19:33 NekoGloop I dont wanna have something to be done tomorrow when it's a critical point in my gamemode 19:33 khonkhortisan I have to wait for my pull request to be seen, but you don't hear me talking about it. Wait, Oops. 19:33 RealBadAngel why so? 19:34 NekoGloop because this is the building point for other things. 19:36 RealBadAngel bout could you understand i worked today for 12hrs, came here, made some code, talked a bit 19:36 RealBadAngel and im damn tired 19:36 RealBadAngel too tired to finsh it? 19:36 NekoGloop jsut send me what you have 19:36 RealBadAngel hold on 19:37 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/coal_furnace.lua 19:39 RealBadAngel i need just too add to it coal burning process and convert it to time 19:40 RealBadAngel all the needed code is in coal generator 19:40 RealBadAngel sry but im not 20yrs old anymore 19:41 RealBadAngel 40yrs on the back makin me tired and want to go to sleep 19:41 NekoGloop all this damn spacing 19:41 NekoGloop looks so goddamn unproffesional 19:41 RealBadAngel sure 19:42 RealBadAngel kiss me space :P 19:42 RealBadAngel *my 19:43 RealBadAngel look 19:43 RealBadAngel take the code 19:43 RealBadAngel fill EU_buffer with smelting coal 19:43 RealBadAngel or whatever 19:43 RealBadAngel furnace will work then 19:43 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Relax and proceed one step at a time 19:44 OldCoder RealBadAngel, This should be fun and interesting. Go rest. 19:44 NekoGloop I'm gonna do this my own way. 19:44 RealBadAngel yes it is 19:44 RealBadAngel i like NekoGloop 19:44 OldCoder That is good 19:44 NekoGloop eh? 19:45 RealBadAngel but sometimes im just tired too much 19:45 OldCoder Oh, yes 19:45 OldCoder Believe me I can relate 19:45 RealBadAngel youre older so im sure you know what im talkin about 19:45 * OldCoder laughs 19:45 OldCoder Older plus some crap; so yes 19:46 RealBadAngel heheh 19:46 OldCoder I pass out a couple of times a day 19:46 OldCoder Or did; this week seems all right 19:46 OldCoder Go rest 19:46 OldCoder Read a book 19:46 OldCoder Wait; see my poem 19:46 RealBadAngel we are havin a season's high now 19:46 OldCoder I'll link you 19:46 OldCoder Season? 19:46 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/artwork/poetry.html#SECTION06 19:46 RealBadAngel so sometimes almost 12hrs of work/24 19:47 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Review the poem 19:47 OldCoder It seems to apply 19:47 RealBadAngel on sunday i were home 11pm 19:47 RealBadAngel beat it 19:47 OldCoder Answer is not to attempt everything all at once 19:47 RealBadAngel free day i had yesterday 19:47 OldCoder And to accept exhaustion as normal 19:47 RealBadAngel slept all day 19:48 RealBadAngel fuckin customers made it so 19:48 OldCoder Heh 19:48 OldCoder http://www.customerssuck.com/ 19:49 RealBadAngel winter comes so every1 wants everything to be done NOW 19:49 OldCoder Of course 19:49 RealBadAngel but those bastards were sleepin a few months ago 19:49 RealBadAngel just now they woke up 19:50 RealBadAngel not when its hot, nice 19:50 RealBadAngel but when their asses can feel winter comin 19:50 RealBadAngel all of them 19:51 RealBadAngel im workin with customers for like 20 yrs by now 19:51 RealBadAngel heard "customer is our master" 19:52 RealBadAngel fuck 19:52 RealBadAngel customer is our enemy 19:52 NekoGloop if so, you''re screwed. 19:52 RealBadAngel hes got our money 19:52 RealBadAngel and fuck him 19:53 OldCoder RealBadAngel, that is IRL. In this world you have Technic. 19:53 OldCoder And you are the master. 19:53 RealBadAngel lol 19:53 OldCoder There are different parts to life 19:53 OldCoder You understand this by now 19:53 RealBadAngel i would rather stay technical advisor 19:53 OldCoder I still want the Open Music project, you know 19:54 RealBadAngel i know 19:54 OldCoder Maybe in the Spring 19:54 OldCoder When the Customers go off and do 19:54 RealBadAngel i wrote to AndySynthe 19:54 OldCoder whatever they do when the weather is nice 19:54 RealBadAngel he said hes short on time 19:54 OldCoder It is a simple matter 19:54 OldCoder He needs to decide 19:55 OldCoder Does he wish his music to live on? At no risk to him or his rights? 19:55 RealBadAngel you know, hes makin music for rulin party in poland 19:55 OldCoder Then assign the license: CC-BY-SA-NC 3.0 Unported 19:55 RealBadAngel so rather busy 19:55 OldCoder That is fine 19:55 OldCoder There is no time required 19:55 OldCoder He need only assert the license 19:56 RealBadAngel i can answer 19:56 OldCoder Actually it is: 19:56 RealBadAngel take it 19:56 OldCoder CC BY-NC-SA 19:56 OldCoder Go on 19:56 OldCoder Take it? Do you have the author's approval? 19:56 RealBadAngel if he will argue i will buy him a beer 19:56 OldCoder Best settle it in advance 19:56 RealBadAngel i can do so 19:56 OldCoder CC BY-NC-SA 3.0 Unported 19:57 OldCoder that is the license that is needed 19:57 OldCoder For music to live forever 19:57 RealBadAngel fuck the letters 19:57 RealBadAngel i know the guy from sandbox 19:57 OldCoder as you wish 19:57 RealBadAngel real sandbox 19:57 OldCoder Then share a beer or a shovel with him 19:58 OldCoder We will discuss this when you are rested 19:58 OldCoder For now 19:58 OldCoder Relax. What goes into Technic next? 19:58 RealBadAngel look. if i know the guy for 30 yrs of my 40yrs life 19:58 OldCoder That is fine 19:59 RealBadAngel so i know what im talkin abot 19:59 OldCoder I believe you 19:59 RealBadAngel thats a friendship 19:59 OldCoder Yes. Must be nice. 19:59 OldCoder I have one person like that. The one who lives in a candle flame. 20:00 RealBadAngel he is real 20:00 OldCoder So is mine 20:00 OldCoder Just a poetic allusion; it's on my site 20:00 OldCoder He actually visits here when he can 20:00 OldCoder LM cost me one of the visits 20:00 OldCoder 20:00 OldCoder RealBadAngel, we'll discuss music another time 20:01 OldCoder I regret mentioning the issue 20:01 RealBadAngel sure 20:01 RealBadAngel nah 20:01 OldCoder It was simply a reflective thought 20:01 RealBadAngel i havent forgot 20:01 OldCoder What are the plans for Technic? 20:01 RealBadAngel ive passed it further 20:01 OldCoder Not today; in general? 20:02 RealBadAngel Andy Synthe was pleased with the idea 20:02 OldCoder Glad to hear it 20:02 RealBadAngel he just said he doesnt have much spare time 20:02 OldCoder His time is not needed 20:02 OldCoder You are familiar enough 20:02 OldCoder All that is needed is his consent 20:02 OldCoder To those letters 20:02 OldCoder 20:03 OldCoder It can be put aside for now 20:03 RealBadAngel i think i will handle this 20:03 OldCoder As you wish 20:03 OldCoder Rest 20:04 RealBadAngel he made music for my demos and games 20:04 RealBadAngel hes one of most valuable friends 20:04 OldCoder Good 20:04 RealBadAngel so 20:05 RealBadAngel if i decide its worth 20:05 RealBadAngel it will be his voice 20:05 RealBadAngel and i KNOW hes doin the same 20:06 NekoGloop_ well i cant get that thing to work 20:06 OldCoder RealBadAngel, It's fine 20:06 NekoGloop_ so I'll just change the default furnace 20:06 RealBadAngel NekoGloop_, wait for next day just 20:07 RealBadAngel i willl finish the code 20:07 RealBadAngel dont push me 20:11 RealBadAngel mining drill needs a sound 20:14 NekoGloop_ recipe for a steel furnace that DOESNT conflict with technic would be...? 20:15 RealBadAngel no 20:15 RealBadAngel changed it to stone just 20:16 RealBadAngel same as regular but not cobble but smooth stone 20:16 NekoGloop_ I'm making a steel one that operates at a higher rate. 20:17 RealBadAngel code you have is free of any restictions 20:17 RealBadAngel just fill the buffer 20:17 NekoGloop_ I want a recipe lol 20:17 NekoGloop_ wait nvm 20:17 NekoGloop_ my bad 20:17 NekoGloop_ forgot technic iron chests have a chest in the center. 20:18 RealBadAngel minetest.register_craft({ 20:18 RealBadAngel output = 'technic:coal_furnace', 20:18 RealBadAngel recipe = { 20:18 RealBadAngel {'default:stone', 'default:stone', 'default:stone'}, 20:18 RealBadAngel {'default:stone', '', 'default:stone'}, 20:18 RealBadAngel {'default:stone', 'default:stone', 'default:stone'}, 20:18 RealBadAngel } 20:18 NekoGloop_ I wanna make a STEEL one 20:18 NekoGloop_ there will still be normal furnace, just this one in addition. 20:18 RealBadAngel so replace it 20:19 RealBadAngel code is on github 20:19 RealBadAngel and this in your hands 20:19 NekoGloop_ as well as my computer :P 20:19 RealBadAngel so go for it 20:20 RealBadAngel when done you wil be credited as always 20:20 NekoGloop_ I'm makin this for my gamemode lol 20:20 NekoGloop_ not directly for technic XD 20:20 RealBadAngel whatever 20:21 RealBadAngel do and you will be kissed in da ass 20:21 RealBadAngel allright? 20:21 RealBadAngel :) 20:21 NekoGloop_ my ass will feel special. 20:21 NekoGloop_ :D 20:21 RealBadAngel genau 20:22 RealBadAngel so dance, dance 20:22 RealBadAngel no kisses for free 20:23 NekoGloop_ can you make it so that a power source next to a machine will power it, and i don't have to get wire? 20:24 RealBadAngel against the rules 20:24 NekoGloop_ why? 20:24 RealBadAngel no wire no power 20:24 RealBadAngel no machine = who the fuck are you?? 20:25 RealBadAngel get out 20:25 NekoGloop_ but i can plug something in directly without wire. 20:25 RealBadAngel dildo? 20:25 NekoGloop_ XD 20:26 RealBadAngel lets stick to technic way :) 20:33 NekoGloop_ now, i attempt this: http://thetekkit.wikia.com/wiki/Energy_Condenser 20:33 NekoGloop_ (or something with similar effect) 20:34 RealBadAngel wrong mod 20:34 NekoGloop_ ? 20:34 NekoGloop_ didn't you hear me? 20:34 NekoGloop_ I wanna try that. 20:34 RealBadAngel i know it 20:34 OldCoder NekoGloop_, he is pretty tired 20:35 NekoGloop_ i dont give a shit if it's not the mod you're basing technic off of. 20:35 RealBadAngel its magical 20:35 NekoGloop_ OldCoder: i know 20:35 NekoGloop_ so is mese 20:35 NekoGloop_ :D 20:35 RealBadAngel no 20:35 OldCoder mesemagic 20:35 RealBadAngel look 20:36 NekoGloop_ I won't make it operate NEARLY as fast as it does in tekkit. 20:36 RealBadAngel start from here 20:36 NekoGloop_ That's not even possible in mt. 20:36 RealBadAngel EMC 20:36 RealBadAngel energy equivalent 20:36 RealBadAngel all nodes, ores are having EMC 20:37 NekoGloop_ i know. 20:37 RealBadAngel Energy Matter Credit, 20:37 RealBadAngel so 20:38 RealBadAngel with magical energy you are able to transmute stone into gold 20:38 RealBadAngel but 20:38 RealBadAngel stone is worth lets say 1 EMC 20:38 RealBadAngel and gold 100 20:39 NekoGloop_ isn't that how the Energy Condenser works? 20:39 RealBadAngel so you need to "sacrrifice" 100 stone to get one gold 20:39 RealBadAngel no 20:39 RealBadAngel that device was overpowered 20:39 NekoGloop_ mainly because it went so fast. 20:39 RealBadAngel it collected sunlight to produce EMC 20:40 RealBadAngel listen 20:40 NekoGloop_ ??? 20:40 NekoGloop_ I'm listening, you aren't explaining. 20:40 RealBadAngel i made contraptions that produced diamond blocks 20:40 RealBadAngel out of pure EMC 20:40 RealBadAngel from sunlight 20:41 RealBadAngel 30 diamond blocks per minute 20:41 OldCoder jordach_tablet2, wb 20:41 RealBadAngel and that was fuckin overpowered 20:42 jordach_tablet2 damnit 20:42 NekoGloop_ alright, how about this. 20:42 RealBadAngel one diamond was 8192 stone 20:42 RealBadAngel diamond block *9 20:42 RealBadAngel * 30 per minute? 20:43 RealBadAngel mayhem 20:43 NekoGloop_ 270 diamonds per minute. 20:43 NekoGloop_ yes i just did that. 20:43 NekoGloop_ in my head. 20:43 NekoGloop_ now listen to me. 20:43 RealBadAngel k 20:43 jordach_tablet2 i jUst broke ThE boot Records...this keyboard also sucks ass 20:44 RealBadAngel sorry 20:44 RealBadAngel need to go shoppin 20:44 NekoGloop_ I make it so this "transmuter" or whatever have a default time. 20:44 RealBadAngel brb 20:44 NekoGloop_ this default time is incredibly high. 20:44 NekoGloop_ and then group "shifttime" can change it. 20:45 RealBadAngel neko: i will be back shortly, hold on 20:46 NekoGloop_ kk. 20:46 NekoGloop_ after this thing works, we will talk about balancing it. 20:50 khonkhortisan what would be a good way to start a race if you didn't have mesecons? 20:50 NekoGloop_ by saying "GO" 20:51 khonkhortisan so, a referee 20:52 khonkhortisan my test world is a mess 21:01 RealBadAngel back 21:02 RealBadAngel what a weather 21:02 RealBadAngel wanted to rip my ass head off 21:02 RealBadAngel windy as hell, and raining 21:04 NekoGloop_ ok. 21:04 RealBadAngel 10 minutes trip on a bike and i feel like goin through storm 21:04 RealBadAngel nvm 21:04 RealBadAngel im back neko 21:05 RealBadAngel btw 21:05 tittielover1982 Sup ppl 21:05 RealBadAngel ive added new ore to technic 21:05 RealBadAngel noticed? 21:06 NekoGloop_ zinc 21:06 RealBadAngel yup 21:06 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Indicate when and if technic is ready to update 21:06 RealBadAngel vanessaE asked 21:06 RealBadAngel OldCoder, tomorrow, bout the same time 21:07 OldCoder All right. No rush. 21:07 RealBadAngel not yet, please 21:07 OldCoder Sure 21:07 RealBadAngel i will shout for sure 21:07 RealBadAngel :) 21:07 khonkhortisan When running off a cliff, if you fall one node, you can reach a ledge 8 nodes away. It takes two nodes to reach full speed. After the first node of falling, you can go another two nodes forward for every node down. 21:08 RealBadAngel OldCoder, but i would love to shout more for an eu server 21:08 RealBadAngel and donate to it 21:08 NekoGloop_ most people don't use fast_move to play legit. 21:09 khonkhortisan So if you had floating nodes you could run down them if they were spaced every 8 21:09 OldCoder RealBadAngel, the idea is fine. I have one associate who may be able to help. I talk to him every few days. One issue, though, is that I must catch up with some real-life issues. 21:09 RealBadAngel i do have an opportunity 21:10 OldCoder Hmm? 21:10 RealBadAngel means i shall pay 21:10 OldCoder For server? May not be necessary; we'll see 21:10 RealBadAngel and EU server could come true 21:10 RealBadAngel i do own domain 21:10 OldCoder It is not magic; just a VPS :-) 21:11 RealBadAngel yes 21:11 OldCoder It will be fine in the end 21:11 RealBadAngel but its paid 21:11 khonkhortisan Is it true that without a bucket there's no way to build down if you're in the air? 21:11 OldCoder This is something new? 21:11 RealBadAngel they demand 60 pln / 3 months 21:11 khonkhortisan Without suicide-building? 21:12 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I can probably take care of it 21:12 RealBadAngel hold on 21:12 OldCoder I need time; just as you do for projects 21:13 RealBadAngel 1 PLN = 3,17 USD 21:13 OldCoder That is too expensive 21:13 OldCoder Wait 21:13 OldCoder Yes; too much 21:13 OldCoder I can probably beat that by a wide margin. I'll need to see. 21:13 RealBadAngel 19 USD per 3 months for a server 21:14 OldCoder No 21:14 OldCoder I think you have it backwards 21:14 RealBadAngel nope 21:14 RealBadAngel you did 21:14 OldCoder 60 pln / 3 months 21:14 OldCoder Oh? 21:14 RealBadAngel rly 21:14 OldCoder 60PL is over $180 USD 21:14 OldCoder Correct? 21:14 OldCoder 60PLN* is over $180 USD 21:14 RealBadAngel lol 21:14 OldCoder ? 21:14 OldCoder You said 21:15 OldCoder 1 PLN = 3,17 USD 21:15 RealBadAngel different direction 21:15 RealBadAngel i have to multiply 21:15 RealBadAngel youre dividing 21:16 OldCoder You said: 21:16 OldCoder All right 21:16 OldCoder No 21:16 OldCoder 1 PLN = 3,17 USD 21:16 OldCoder Therefore 21:16 OldCoder 60PLN is more then $180 USD 21:16 OldCoder Simple. 21:16 RealBadAngel ooooops 21:16 OldCoder Ha 21:16 RealBadAngel wrong way 21:16 NekoGloop_ ok. 21:16 NekoGloop_ My thingy is working 21:17 RealBadAngel dollar is worth more 21:17 Basstard` What's the currency in Minetest? 21:17 NekoGloop_ and also isnt immensely overpowered 21:17 RealBadAngel mese 21:17 NekoGloop_ Basstard`: mese or gold if moreores is installed. 21:17 khonkhortisan there's no default currency, it uses a barter system 21:18 RealBadAngel what bout technic or glooppores? 21:18 khonkhortisan Because you have to install mods instead of inventing crafts in-game, no one really prints currency 21:18 khonkhortisan I haven't used gloopores yet, it's new 21:18 RealBadAngel they have no use 21:18 Basstard` The currency has to be connected to real life currency. 21:19 NekoGloop_ gloopores makes tools & blocks. 21:19 RealBadAngel NekoGloop_, dont ya think? 21:19 NekoGloop_ gloopores will make stuff in technic... eventually. 21:19 RealBadAngel mese r better 21:19 RealBadAngel i would love to 21:20 RealBadAngel but not the tools way 21:20 NekoGloop_ i know 21:20 RealBadAngel lets unite 21:20 NekoGloop_ akalin and kalite should be able to be doped onto wafers. 21:20 NekoGloop_ all gloopores should be grindable into dust. 21:20 RealBadAngel but not with such stupid names 21:20 NekoGloop_ ;_; 21:21 NekoGloop_ my names arent stupid ;_; 21:21 RealBadAngel dont smile on me 21:21 OldCoder they are fine 21:21 OldCoder And those are tears btw 21:21 RealBadAngel hahhaha 21:21 RealBadAngel ok 21:21 RealBadAngel neko 21:21 RealBadAngel listen now 21:22 RealBadAngel lets make this clear and easy 21:22 RealBadAngel i know how you also do 21:23 RealBadAngel you had excelllent idea to make it in the desert 21:23 NekoGloop i was pissed that after 50 spawns in the desert i had no materials. 21:23 khonkhortisan has working pipeworks been released yet? 21:23 RealBadAngel we shall make some kind of ore dictionary 21:24 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, all i done is on github 21:24 RealBadAngel not perfect yet 21:25 NekoGloop coal, iron, mese, copper, tin, bronze, silver, gold, mithril, alatro, kalite, arol, akalin, talinite, chromium, uranium, diamond, stainless steel, and zinc. 21:25 RealBadAngel hmmmmz 21:25 RealBadAngel hold on 21:25 RealBadAngel stop runniing 21:25 NekoGloop I'm not running anywhere. 21:25 NekoGloop :D 21:25 khonkhortisan I'm trying to find one you forgot to mention and am failing at it 21:26 RealBadAngel please tell me 21:26 khonkhortisan oil doesn't count 21:26 RealBadAngel your ores were just a try 21:26 NekoGloop an attempt of the ore generation code, yes. 21:26 RealBadAngel i can make ores so i made them 21:26 Basstard` Pyrite? 21:26 RealBadAngel yup? 21:26 Basstard` Pyrite! 21:27 NekoGloop I'm still pissed only one of my headphones work. 21:27 RealBadAngel stfu 21:27 RealBadAngel lol 21:27 RealBadAngel you dont want to my be operational 21:27 khonkhortisan nyan cats could be renamed to unobtanium 21:27 NekoGloop now i have normal furnace, steel furnace, obsidian furnace, and transmuter. 21:27 RealBadAngel neko 21:28 NekoGloop yes? 21:28 RealBadAngel lets switch to pric 21:28 RealBadAngel priv 21:28 NekoGloop kk. 21:28 khonkhortisan ...and the channel goes quiet... 21:29 NekoGloop wow. 21:29 Basstard` Lovers 21:29 TheLandMine ? 21:30 khonkhortisan ¿ 21:33 khonkhortisan "Your Most Recent Gists" shouldn't link to a page that says "The Gist you were looking for has been deleted" 21:34 khonkhortisan either remind me and give it to me or hope I forget about it so you don't have to tell me you deleted it 21:51 * khonkhortisan is stuck in a segfault loop 21:59 khonkhortisan gdb tells me there's a SIGSEGV in GenericCAO::addToScene(irr::scene::ISceneManager*, ITextureSource*, irr::IrrlichtDevice*) () 22:05 khonkhortisan I think the world went bad 22:06 RealBadAngel real bad 22:06 RealBadAngel you better hide 22:06 khonkhortisan I do that anyway 22:07 RealBadAngel deep 22:07 FreeFull I'm thinking a bad pointer 22:07 FreeFull Or irrlicht bug 22:08 khonkhortisan other worlds work 22:08 RealBadAngel and im thinkin of bad c55 22:09 khonkhortisan There should be a way to make a solid node climbable. 22:09 khonkhortisan Like how you can climb brick but you can't climb glass 22:09 RealBadAngel yup 22:10 RealBadAngel fork 22:10 NekoGloop there is. 22:10 RealBadAngel c55 is away 22:10 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Still awake? 22:10 RealBadAngel yeah 22:11 RealBadAngel got one beer more 22:12 RealBadAngel once done, im down 22:26 khonkhortisan the textures of bricks and moreores checkered stuff isn't correct on the corners. I don't mean which direction the grain goes, I mean which material is where (brick/mortar, wood/stone) 22:29 khonkhortisan If you look at the top face of brick and see mortar on the edge, then look at the side and see brick on the top, that leads you to believe that mortar is a triangular prism instead of the rectangular prism it should be. 22:57 * VanessaE is back 23:13 Octupus Hola 23:14 VanessaE hi 23:14 T_A_N_K how does one create a creative server? 23:15 Octupus easy 23:15 Octupus go in advanced 23:15 T_A_N_K what is the variable in the .conf file? 23:15 Octupus click creatve :D 23:15 Octupus i think its /set -n creative_mode = true 23:16 T_A_N_K hmmm 23:16 khonkhortisan I changed a file, but git diff found a change at the bottom at the file that I don't remember adding. So I piped it to file, then back to patch -R, then only my change is there. I like knowing how this stuff works. 23:17 Octupus T_A_N_K,How is minetest essentials now? 23:18 T_A_N_K well everyone said it sucked, so i just stopped developing it and decided to improve parts of the game 23:18 Octupus who said it sucked 23:18 khonkhortisan probably because it only has essentials and not the whiz-bang stuff 23:19 Octupus i thought it was great 23:19 T_A_N_K i was going to create a limiter, so players can only go so far 23:19 T_A_N_K to save map space and cpu 23:20 NakedFury http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/essentials/ 23:20 NakedFury recreate that in mt 23:20 T_A_N_K that's what i was doing 23:20 T_A_N_K i already "ported" in standalone shops 23:20 T_A_N_K scs 23:20 T_A_N_K but right now i am working on creative mode, so brb 23:21 Octupus ok 23:22 NakedFury http://wiki.ess3.net/wiki/Command_Reference 23:26 Octupus_ my other acc need to time out 23:35 Octupus hm 23:37 Octupus i wanna make a texture pack for mt and site i can use no dload needed 23:37 NakedFury you want a site to host the files? 23:38 Octupus yes 23:38 NakedFury mediafire 23:38 Octupus yes but a site i can create textures 23:38 NakedFury I dont think that is posssible 23:38 NakedFury you do them on paint programs not on websites 23:38 Octupus i dont wanna use paint 23:39 NakedFury sad 23:39 Octupus thats gay 23:39 khonkhortisan gimp! 23:39 Octupus time to disk cleaner the cp 23:39 NakedFury paint.net and gimp are free 23:39 FreeFull You can write a program that generates textures procedurally 23:40 Octupus yes but they require dwload 23:40 Octupus im a kid not a coding master :D 23:40 khonkhortisan new gimp has single-window mode where the close button closes the file instead of the program, and an export button where the save button should be 23:40 khonkhortisan I think imagemagick does image scripting stuff 23:41 Octupus whats that? 23:41 khonkhortisan a cli image editor 23:41 Octupus oh 23:42 khonkhortisan Use a graphical text editor and a cli image editor, and the world will be perfect. 23:42 Octupus hmm 23:43 Octupus i might just deinstall realplayer and itunes 23:43 khonkhortisan it makes more sense to use a text text editor and an image image editor, but people don't usually do that 23:43 Octupus to gert gimp 23:43 Octupus *get 23:43 Octupus because its useless 23:44 khonkhortisan 2.9 is slightly annoying compared to 2.8 23:44 Octupus itunes? 23:44 khonkhortisan gimp 23:44 Octupus ah 23:44 khonkhortisan afaik itunes is a website 23:45 FreeFull It isn't 23:45 NakedFury itunes is a program 23:45 khonkhortisan does it work on anything other than iStuff? 23:46 NakedFury no 23:46 khonkhortisan that's why I don't know much about it 23:48 Octupuslegs opps 23:48 Octupuslegs i put legs 23:48 Octupuslegs XD 23:48 Octupuslegs srry i left i had to leave the internet to remove itunes 23:48 khonkhortisan that's like putting Eskovez 23:48 khonkhortisan oh it's you. I didn't even recognize you because the color of your username changed. 23:49 khonkhortisan I thought a new person joined 23:49 Octupus lol 23:49 khonkhortisan I know octupuslegs goes by octupus but I didn't connect that with who I was just talking with 23:49 Octupus just waiting for itunes to deinstall 23:50 Octupus XD 23:50 khonkhortisan it seems it's easier to correctly uvmap a checkered cube than it is a brick one. 23:51 Octupus so how rubix cube going 23:51 khonkhortisan If you click on the center of a face it will rotate clockwise. It works, but it's not easy to use. 23:51 ecube banned landmine? :o 189.144.*.* and 189.191.*.* were his IP's, and after I iptables'd him away, he got a proxy and came on, saying how I banned all the mexican IP's 23:51 ecube it was funny 23:52 Octupus 'lolz 23:52 khonkhortisan I take it he's not mexican 23:52 Octupus lm is mexican 23:53 ecube idfc 23:53 ecube he was like, I see you banned all the mexican IPs. 23:53 Octupus did you 23:53 ecube but he was using a different name 23:53 Octupus ohh 23:53 ecube everything else was the same though 23:54 ecube and i can't believe i believed him >.< 23:54 Octupus but did u actually ban all mexican ips? 23:54 ecube no 23:54 Octupus oh :) 23:54 ecube i set iptables DROP on 189.144.*.* and 189.191.*.* 23:54 Octupus oh 23:54 ecube because his IP's follow that pattern 23:55 ecube Hm. I haven't seen milleja46 in a long time. 23:55 * khonkhortisan is jealous; his router doesn't allow changing settings 23:55 Octupus me either 23:55 milleja46 ecube: I've been here, but kinda faded away once you stopped really having servers 23:55 ecube lol 23:55 khonkhortisan I type my username so much I think /me in my head and type /khonkhortisan 23:55 ecube khonkhortisan: I didn't use the router 23:55 ecube I blocked him from my comp 23:55 milleja46 me and tuqz still hang out on #cubemt though he's asleep right now 23:55 khonkhortisan firewall? 23:56 M13_ Vanessa 23:56 VanessaE hm? 23:56 ecube milleja46: we hang out a lot on irc.wazuclan.com #wazuclan, if you're interested 23:56 Octupus hi m13 23:56 M13_ Whats up with this? : http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2012-08-11 23:56 ecube khonkhortisan: iptables -A input -j DROP -s 23:56 Octupus y cant i get on yo server 23:56 khonkhortisan VanessaE, I see you were watching the conversation without saying anything, that wasn't a full reference to your name 23:56 milleja46 ecube: me and tuqz stay on #cubemt in hopes that you would maybe come back and host a server again :P 23:56 ecube lol 23:56 milleja46 your servers when they did run and running good, were amazing 23:56 khonkhortisan my router is closed too tight for my firewall to do much 23:57 VanessaE khonkhortisan: I said I'm back and then said hi :-) 23:57 ecube my servers died 23:57 ecube so now i help admin my clan's server instead 23:57 VanessaE and my client highlights on "vanessa" with or without the "E" 23:57 ecube lol 23:57 khonkhortisan cool 23:57 Octupus i wish ecube hosted a server again 23:57 milleja46 ecube: so what if only a few players played? it was nice to have a small server to play on :P 23:57 M13_ Octupus its up and there are ppl on it IP : m13.sytes.net Port : 30001 23:57 T_A_N_K you guys are going to love the creative mode 23:57 VanessaE M13_: which part? 23:57 Octupus can u bring me down from 29999 lm put up there yesterday 23:58 ecube T_A_N_K: ? 23:58 T_A_N_K of minetest fancy, i'm creating a much better creative mode 23:58 milleja46 hrmm I'm half tempted when I get a job to switch from verizon to sprint XD 23:58 ecube T_A_N_K: does one already exist? 23:58 milleja46 sprint is the only one with unlimited stuff >_> 23:58 T_A_N_K not what i'm doing 23:58 M13_ Ur talking Crap about me and Keegan (WITH celeron55)!!!!!!! 23:58 Octupus so ecube y not host 1 again 23:59 ecube my clan has a small-ish one 23:59 ecube and it's pretty good itself 23:59 NekoGloop meow. 23:59 ecube lol 23:59 M13_ if you have something to say to me say it Dont like me find logs 23:59 milleja46 ecube: yea but the server you hosted was nicer :P 23:59 VanessaE M13_: um, no. Look at the date of that post - that was almost a month ago. And it was one line because Keegan was asking for a hacked client - something he had been told he would not receive. 23:59 Octupus your server was the best though 23:59 Octupus it only got dead because the ip change 23:59 milleja46 Octupus: true that 23:59 ecube because of the IP change... AND because of minetest.ru