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00:23 OldCoder I am building a MT 0.4.3 client for Ubuntu. Where do people here get theirs?
00:23 VanessaE from github
00:23 OldCoder Does everybody build locally or is there an official Ubuntu 0.4.3 client?
00:23 OldCoder VanessaE, Are there binaries there?
00:24 OldCoder I am referring to binaries
00:24 VanessaE there's a semi-official nightly-builds repository linked from the main site
00:24 OldCoder Do you have a link?
00:24 VanessaE https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable/+packages
00:24 OldCoder Found it I think
00:24 OldCoder Oh; that's Windows
00:24 OldCoder Checking yours
00:25 OldCoder Ah!
00:26 OldCoder I wish somebody had mentioned this when the toxic person came by
00:26 OldCoder I promised him I'd build a client but I don't need to
00:26 VanessaE also,
00:26 OldCoder I assume Irrlicht is statically linked
00:26 OldCoder Yes?
00:26 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=39678#p39678
00:26 VanessaE I have builds for Ubuntu Precise here, for those who want to use my HDX textures and can't tolerate the aliasing noise :-)
00:27 VanessaE (scroll to the bottom)
00:27 VanessaE (post #17)
00:27 OldCoder VanessaE, Should I build that into my servers?
00:27 OldCoder Or is that client side?
00:27 VanessaE no, that's for clients - it won't affect your server
00:27 OldCoder k
00:27 OldCoder He has Mint 13
00:28 OldCoder Which of the Ubuntus might that match?
00:28 OldCoder Quantal?
00:28 VanessaE should be fine, probably Precise of Quantal
00:28 VanessaE of/or
00:28 OldCoder k thx
00:28 OldCoder Irrlicht is statically linked?
00:29 VanessaE not sure
00:29 VanessaE they're built with the normal build procedure
00:29 OldCoder All right
00:29 OldCoder ty
00:36 VanessaE OldCoder: be sure you upgrade homedecor on those servers of yours which have it.  I just pushed some updates about an hour and 45 minutes ago
00:36 OldCoder Proceeding now
00:39 OldCoder Servers going down very briefly
00:42 OldCoder Servers restarted
00:42 OldCoder VanessaE, new homedecor should be in
00:42 VanessaE cool
00:42 OldCoder Default set, Skyblock, and New Tuxworld use it
00:43 OldCoder Server Construction Kit is also updated
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00:55 OldCoder BTW Trees are round now
00:55 VanessaE cool
01:01 VanessaE OldCoder: another update coming in a short while - adding gates to go with the fences.
01:02 OldCoder As you wish
01:03 OldCoder Wait
01:03 OldCoder Will this add a dependency? Or is it just on NekoGloop gates?
01:03 OldCoder I have those
01:03 VanessaE no dependencies.
01:03 VanessaE it's all internal.
01:03 OldCoder Ah
01:03 OldCoder Fine
01:03 OldCoder Go nuts
01:03 VanessaE brb
01:05 T_A_N_K 0.55 is out http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=45457#p45457
01:07 OldCoder What does tree_plus do?
01:08 T_A_N_K makes it so you can only place papyrus on sand, dirt, or dirt with grass so, and trees only be placed on dirt and dirt with grass
01:09 OldCoder Is this good?
01:10 T_A_N_K is what good
01:10 OldCoder tree_plus; those changes
01:10 T_A_N_K yes
01:11 OldCoder All right
01:11 OldCoder T_A_N_K, do you have any other favorites from this page:
01:11 OldCoder http://cornernote.net/minetest/gamewiki/fancy/mods.php
01:12 OldCoder That are reasonably lightweight and stable?
01:12 T_A_N_K it makes it, kind of like tree feller from mcmmo for cactuses papyrus and trees
01:12 OldCoder All right
01:12 T_A_N_K yea, i'm not really paying attention to  a wiki for this game mode
01:12 T_A_N_K i'm just going to supply a map with like a training course with all the things
01:14 OldCoder I just mean; any favorite mods
01:15 T_A_N_K not really
01:18 OldCoder All right
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02:13 cornernote hi
02:18 T_A_N_K ello
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02:22 cornernote whens the next lets play video coming ?
02:22 cornernote any chance you can do one with towntest ?
02:27 VanessaE OldCoder: that update I mentioned is ready now.
02:28 VanessaE hi cornernote
02:29 OldCoder VanessaE, I will update before bed
02:30 OldCoder Helping with LaTex and PHP ATM
02:30 OldCoder Just debugged Arduino code
02:30 OldCoder Been an interesting evening
02:30 OldCoder VanessaE, as an exchange of time
02:30 OldCoder Tell mrtux about Skyblock
02:30 mrtux also
02:30 mrtux good news
02:30 OldCoder He wants to know: What is it?
02:30 OldCoder He has returned!
02:30 mrtux Minetest 0.4.3 works for me :)
02:30 OldCoder ^ the news
02:31 VanessaE mrtux: it's a game mode that will kick your ass :-)
02:31 mrtux No more of that weird bug
02:31 mrtux What exactly do i do?
02:31 mrtux I'm on this square with a stick and some leaves
02:31 VanessaE right-click on the [1] you spawn on and follow the instructions
02:31 VanessaE you start by crafting a sapling from a few materials you're given at the start, then plant that, collect wood from it, and so on.
02:32 mrtux ok
02:32 mrtux how do i craft a sapling?
02:32 VanessaE each step is a bit more involved than the previous one, by the time you get to the end of level 3 you should have a respectable little village
02:32 mrtux never knew you could do that
02:32 VanessaE six leaves and one stick:
02:32 VanessaE L L L
02:32 VanessaE L L L
02:32 VanessaE - S -
02:32 mrtux ok thanks
02:32 VanessaE it's unique to Skyblock.
02:33 mrtux i got a tree
02:33 VanessaE the rest, you're supposed to figure out on your own :-)
02:33 VanessaE look at the top of the screen, notice you gained two achievements just now
02:33 VanessaE now right click on the [1] to get your reward, and proceed to the next challenge
02:33 mrtux ok
02:33 mrtux seems fun
02:34 VanessaE it is
02:34 mrtux thanks for the help
02:34 VanessaE Just.  Don't.  Die.
02:34 mrtux yes good idea
02:35 mrtux just dug a tree
02:36 VanessaE be sure you collect all the leaves
02:36 mrtux i got most of them
02:36 VanessaE they'll be useful for fuel and to craft more saplings
02:36 mrtux 37 to the exact
02:36 mrtux yeah
02:37 mrtux noooooooooooo
02:38 mrtux i broke my lava source
02:38 VanessaE died?
02:38 mrtux no
02:38 VanessaE oops!
02:38 mrtux oh well
02:38 mrtux won't be too hard to get errything back
02:38 VanessaE jump off the edge of the island to start over :-)
02:38 mrtux weird
02:38 mrtux I still have my chest
02:38 VanessaE yup
02:38 VanessaE everything you built will remain
02:38 mrtux i decided to start over
02:39 VanessaE as will the contents thereof
02:39 mrtux since i lost all my stuff
02:40 mrtux Next time I will keep my important stuff (building materials) in the chest
02:44 cornernote hi VanessaE and OldCoder and mrtux
02:44 VanessaE how goes it, cornernote?
02:45 cornernote mrtux - there is a craft guide for skyblock here - http://cornernote.net/minetest/gamewiki/skyblock/crafts.php
02:45 OldCoder cornernote, Hi
02:46 cornernote im playing with PilzAdam's game fork - http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3119
02:46 cornernote the one i call vanilla that he doesnt want called vanilla =)
02:46 cornernote its really cool
02:46 cornernote there are so many games and mods now, i have to stop coding at some stage and play the game
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02:47 mrtux I got disconnected from the internet
02:47 mrtux wgoops
02:47 mrtux *whoops
02:47 VanessaE oops :-)
02:47 mrtux Must be my router
02:48 OldCoder VanessaE, is this the last homedecor update for the day? :-)
02:48 VanessaE yes
02:48 OldCoder It takes 10 minutes to do this
02:48 VanessaE go ahead and pull :-)
02:48 OldCoder Proceeding
02:48 OldCoder yep
02:49 VanessaE let me know if you find any glitches
02:52 OldCoder I need to shut down the servers briefly
02:52 OldCoder mrtux, better hold tight
02:52 mrtux ok
02:53 mrtux k
02:53 mrtux how long will this take?
02:53 OldCoder Maybe 90 seconds
02:53 mrtux k
02:53 mrtux I'm at the point of getting the lava
02:54 OldCoder Started
02:54 OldCoder mrtux restart your client
02:55 OldCoder VanessaE, if possible verify your mod is working in one of the worlds
02:55 OldCoder all of this will be automated at some point
02:55 mrtux ok
02:55 mrtux I'll be there in a sec
02:55 VanessaE checking...
02:56 mrtux I need to get the dynamic ip URL for freedns.afraid.org
02:56 mrtux so i can have my domain point to my 'pooter
02:56 VanessaE oldcoder: 30006 seems to be missing a mod
02:56 OldCoder Wait
02:57 VanessaE next to that coalchecker building that needed fixed, there's a lava pit surrounded by Unknown Block's.
02:57 OldCoder VanessaE, Ah
02:57 OldCoder You didn't mean homedecor
02:57 OldCoder Any idea which mod?
02:58 VanessaE no clue, it doesn't tell me when i dig the node what it was
02:58 OldCoder All right
02:58 OldCoder Will running verbose tell me?
02:58 VanessaE dunno
02:58 * OldCoder shrugs
02:58 OldCoder It can wait
02:58 OldCoder Is your mod working?
02:58 VanessaE hm, no interact.
02:58 VanessaE I can't even dig a tree :-)
02:58 OldCoder Granting now
02:59 OldCoder Wait
02:59 OldCoder You know the reason for this
02:59 mrtux dang it
02:59 mrtux i messed up again
02:59 mrtux destroyed my lava source
02:59 VanessaE quite a fair bit of lag too
02:59 OldCoder Actually these servers are fast
03:00 OldCoder Seems to depend on location
03:00 VanessaE I keep lag-teleporting backward just walking around normally
03:00 OldCoder What's your name?
03:00 OldCoder VanessaE, ^
03:00 OldCoder In 30006 ?
03:00 VanessaE VanessaEzekowitz
03:00 OldCoder Ah
03:00 OldCoder Anyway no lag for a lot of people
03:00 OldCoder These are $$$ servers
03:00 OldCoder Hold on
03:00 OldCoder But I may move them shortly
03:01 OldCoder We'll see how it goes
03:01 OldCoder VanessaE, you have interact
03:01 OldCoder And moving servers may help speed
03:04 mrtux Is there a technique to getting the lava
03:04 T_A_N_K bb
03:18 OldCoder VanessaE, I see a cat in minetest_game
03:18 OldCoder I think it's from there
03:20 OldCoder VanessaE, see for yourself:
03:21 OldCoder default_nc_front
03:24 VanessaE yep I know
03:24 VanessaE if I load the server with my HDX pack in place, I see what I expectr.
03:24 VanessaE so there's some image my local copy of MT is using without my permission
03:24 OldCoder So how do I do that?
03:24 VanessaE it ain't you
03:24 VanessaE it's me
03:24 OldCoder Ah
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03:32 VanessaE OldCoder: I just don't get it.  I can't find any reference to the original image in either of my minetest trees, except in the cache which comes from your server.
03:33 * OldCoder shrugs
03:33 OldCoder What do you wish me to do?
03:33 OldCoder Is it possible
03:33 VanessaE did you download nc.zip ?
03:33 OldCoder That image was in the old minetest_game for WIN32 ?
03:34 OldCoder Wait
03:34 OldCoder That image was in the old minetest_game for WIN32 ?
03:34 VanessaE in no.
03:34 OldCoder in no?
03:34 VanessaE er
03:34 VanessaE no.
03:34 OldCoder Then I have no idea
03:34 OldCoder Too busy looking for image
03:34 OldCoder To download nc.zip yet
03:34 OldCoder I don't see it anywhere
03:34 OldCoder But will get your ZIP
03:34 OldCoder Shortly
03:34 VanessaE when you're ready for it, download this:   http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/nc.zip
03:35 VanessaE then, look for default_nc_* and copy the png's out of that zip into whatever directories you find default_nc_* in
03:37 VanessaE this is gonna bug the shit outta me
03:37 OldCoder Wait
03:38 OldCoder There is only *one* place
03:38 OldCoder For default_nc_
03:38 OldCoder Verifying that now
03:38 VanessaE yeah?
03:39 VanessaE the server must be sending the entire texture pack, which is why it ignores my inbuilt textures (and yet my HDX pack overrides them)
03:39 OldCoder I see *no* default_nc_ anywhere but in git sources for MT itself
03:39 OldCoder What does this imply?
03:39 VanessaE they're be in /usr/local/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/default/textures
03:39 OldCoder Yes
03:39 VanessaE (or /usr/share/minetest/...)
03:39 OldCoder No
03:39 OldCoder Actually:
03:39 VanessaE (or celeron55-blahblah/games/minetest_game/...)
03:40 OldCoder /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/...
03:40 OldCoder They are in upstream git
03:40 VanessaE /opt !?
03:40 VanessaE didn't know anyone still put anything there :-)
03:40 * OldCoder is nonplussed
03:41 OldCoder What is wrong with good old opt?
03:41 OldCoder Then I don't screw with normal files
03:41 VanessaE actually nothing :-)
03:41 OldCoder The reason is simple
03:41 OldCoder I have multiple versions of MT
03:41 OldCoder This way they can cooexist
03:41 OldCoder *coexist
03:41 OldCoder Now...
03:41 OldCoder Is the rogue image coming from upstream git minetest_game
03:41 OldCoder ?
03:42 OldCoder Pull it and state your views yourself
03:42 OldCoder Just clone and look
03:42 VanessaE it's coming from your server
03:42 * OldCoder sighs
03:42 * OldCoder bites his tongue
03:42 VanessaE I don't use git, and the server doesn't
03:42 OldCoder That is irrelevant to what I just said
03:42 VanessaE the server doesn't pull its images from git
03:42 OldCoder That is irrelevant to what I just said
03:42 VanessaE why would git matter then?
03:42 OldCoder Because you wanted to know what mod had the image
03:42 VanessaE right
03:42 OldCoder And I don't think it's a mod
03:43 VanessaE and you're right again
03:43 VanessaE it's not a mod
03:43 OldCoder All right
03:43 VanessaE it's the default texture
03:43 OldCoder O.K.
03:43 OldCoder Progress!
03:43 OldCoder Glory!
03:43 OldCoder :-)
03:43 OldCoder So we are agreed
03:43 OldCoder Upstream git is wrong?
03:43 VanessaE no
03:43 VanessaE upstream git still has the old non-free images, but c55 hasn't gotten off his ass and replaced them.
03:44 VanessaE so if it does, you do.
03:44 VanessaE so technically they're "right" in that you've got what c55 distributed.
03:45 VanessaE but to me, they're wrong because I provided ones which I am 100% certain are free :-)
03:45 OldCoder Then we shall use yours
03:45 OldCoder Downloading your ZIP now
03:45 OldCoder Wait please
03:45 * VanessaE waits
03:45 OldCoder Oh, this is trivial
03:45 OldCoder Don't worry; all will be well
03:46 OldCoder About 3 minutes
03:46 VanessaE exactly why I'm irritated at c55.
03:46 VanessaE it takes all of a couple minutes to replace the ..questionable.. content.
03:46 VanessaE and he hasn't done it.
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03:48 VanessaE (and if this channel is logged like some have said, for celeron55's benefit:  yes, I'm legitimately irritated at you for ignoring the most G*d-awful-easy fix you could have been offered.
03:49 OldCoder It will be fine
03:49 OldCoder Shutting down servers to address this
03:50 VanessaE wait.
03:50 VanessaE I'm gonna make a little change.  Stand by
03:52 VanessaE ok, make it nc2.zip
03:53 VanessaE I blended the rainbow like I had meant to before.
03:55 VanessaE let's see what he says in response to what I wrote in -dev :-)
03:57 OldCoder Now she tells me
03:57 OldCoder :-)
03:57 OldCoder I just finished
03:57 VanessaE heh
03:57 OldCoder But O.K.
03:57 OldCoder nc2.zip ?
03:57 VanessaE yeah
03:57 OldCoder I automated this
03:57 OldCoder It's fine
03:57 OldCoder Stopping servers again
04:01 OldCoder Started
04:01 OldCoder VanessaE, clear your caches etc.
04:01 OldCoder And look at the kitty
04:01 VanessaE already did.
04:02 * VanessaE checks
04:04 VanessaE much better.
04:04 OldCoder All right
04:05 OldCoder And it's all automated
04:05 OldCoder Mostly
04:05 OldCoder All the mods and such
04:05 OldCoder Can be updated
04:05 OldCoder And all the worlds can be rebuilt
04:05 OldCoder semi-automatically
04:05 VanessaE nice
04:05 OldCoder Yep
04:06 OldCoder I've got provisions for auto-restart on crash, stop and start groups of servers, update server or minetest_game or individual _games, add different sets of mods to each, patch things in place
04:06 OldCoder Headed towards a nice framework
04:06 VanessaE very nice
04:06 VanessaE that's better than what I do right now.  brb
04:11 VanessaE back
04:14 OldCoder wb
04:14 OldCoder Exercise servers when time permits this week
04:14 OldCoder Perhaps you will find more rogue pieces
04:15 * VanessaE waits for the server ot cycle back to daytime
04:15 VanessaE can't do a fucking thing in the dark without even a torch on hand :D
04:15 OldCoder How would we add more torches?
04:16 VanessaE I'll craft some as soon as it turns light out again, or if you'll kindly /time 6000
04:16 OldCoder Sure
04:16 OldCoder World 30006 ?
04:16 VanessaE yeah
04:16 VanessaE (I need to dig down for a bit and gather some coal)
04:17 VanessaE ah much better
04:23 VanessaE OldCoder: your homedecor is out of date on 30006.
04:23 OldCoder I updated to the latest
04:23 OldCoder Hold on
04:23 VanessaE update again :-)  you don't have the swinging gates commit
04:23 OldCoder Wait
04:24 OldCoder I updated *twice*
04:24 OldCoder Checking
04:25 OldCoder I think I see...
04:25 OldCoder Working
04:25 OldCoder I think that happened because of the part of the work that is still manual
04:25 OldCoder Working
04:26 VanessaE brb
04:28 OldCoder Stopping servers
04:31 OldCoder Restarted servers
04:31 OldCoder VanessaE, check now
04:32 VanessaE checking
04:32 VanessaE hold.. crashed
04:32 OldCoder Not crashed
04:32 OldCoder Restarted
04:32 VanessaE I crashed.
04:34 VanessaE looks good
04:35 VanessaE heh, looks like Tyletastic needs to put some algaecide in his pool ;-)
04:35 VanessaE (there's seaweed growing around it)
04:36 OldCoder Is there really algaecide?
04:36 VanessaE no
04:36 OldCoder k
04:36 VanessaE I was kidding :-)
04:36 OldCoder <--- Martian Child
04:36 OldCoder Literal
04:36 VanessaE you have to build pools out of something other than dirt or you'll end up with seaweed.
04:37 VanessaE or you have to keep them well lit
04:37 OldCoder k
04:37 VanessaE (seaweed only grows in dim light)
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05:17 VanessaE bbl.  time to try to get some sleep.
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05:17 VanessaE eveing RBA
05:17 VanessaE +n
05:18 VanessaE night all.
05:18 RealBadAngel you mean early mornin of course ;) hi
05:24 OldCoder VanessaE, Happy with progress I hope
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05:57 VanessaE well so much for sleep.
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10:15 cornernote which mods provide access to dye nowdays ?
10:15 cornernote flowers used to, but thats no longer the case ?
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12:18 anunakki anyone around?
12:38 OldCoder Yes
12:38 OldCoder 5:35am Good Morning
12:39 OldCoder anunakki, Hello
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14:04 T_A_N_K is there a dispensor mod?
14:06 OldCoder Shutting down servers for a little work
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14:28 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
14:31 jin_xi hi adam
14:34 T_A_N_K ello
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14:35 PilzAdam there were some suggestions that i should add item_drop, particles and builtin_item to my fork of MT_game. What do you think about this?
14:36 PilzAdam (@all)
14:36 Calinou particles == slow
14:36 Calinou no particles :P I think you should add item_drop and builtin_item, though
14:37 PilzAdam IMO: add particles and builtin_item and dont add item_drop
14:38 PilzAdam but i will reduce the number of particles to 7-9
14:38 PilzAdam so its faster
14:38 PilzAdam item_drop should be a stand-alone mod
14:38 PilzAdam so every player can decide his/herself if he/she wants it
14:39 PilzAdam Calinou, is particles slow if there are only 7-9 particles and not 32?
14:39 Calinou it is
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14:39 Calinou particles are server controlled
14:39 Calinou > bandwidth and CPU hog
14:40 PilzAdam im aiming on singleplayer and not multiplayer
14:40 Calinou c55 will only add a particles mod if they are client controlled, he said
14:40 Calinou > C++ required for that
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14:43 PilzAdam Calinou, you forked mobs to only have the original 0.3 mobs?
14:43 Calinou OH NO! I WAS SPOTTED
14:43 Calinou yep :P just for fun
14:43 PilzAdam hi NekoGloop
14:43 Calinou if anyone wants that
14:43 NekoGloop Meow.
14:43 Calinou (read: celeron55)
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14:49 T_A_N_K here is flint and steel
14:49 T_A_N_K http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=PxiSYb1b
14:49 OldCoder Servers restarted
14:49 * Calinou slaps T_A_N_K for using pastebin.com
14:49 Calinou dpkg approves
14:49 * T_A_N_K slaps calinou for not brightening the flint in misa
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14:50 Calinou do it yourself
14:50 * Zilvarael slaps both of you "Play nice!"
14:50 PilzAdam T_A_N_K, your wearing out of the tool is very... crappy
14:50 * T_A_N_K slaps calinou 5 times for sassyness
14:50 Calinou Zilvarael: no, play boy.
14:51 T_A_N_K pilzadam, then do it better, i do it the only way i know how
14:51 * Zilvarael gives a cookie to Calinou
14:54 PilzAdam T_A_N_K, https://gist.github.com/3812270
14:54 T_A_N_K you might want to tell realbadangel about this too
14:54 PilzAdam hes not here
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14:56 T_A_N_K but thank you
14:56 PilzAdam your welcome
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15:16 T_A_N_K man the workbench 3x3 needs to be updated to 0.4.3 api
15:16 T_A_N_K it's so freakin glitchy
15:16 PilzAdam lol, T_A_N_K, you have a cats playlist?
15:17 T_A_N_K yes :D
15:20 * PilzAdam wants a vat
15:20 PilzAdam *cat
15:23 T_A_N_K then get one!
15:24 PilzAdam i cant
15:25 Basstard` PilzAdam: I can get you a vet.
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16:13 Jordach wassup
16:13 OldCoder Hmm
16:13 * OldCoder shrugs
16:13 PilzAdam hi Jordach
16:14 Jordach OldCoder, yes?
16:15 OldCoder Jordach, I was contemplating answers to the question wassup
16:15 Jordach oh
16:15 OldCoder It is too earlier for me to say
16:15 OldCoder *early
16:15 OldCoder Well, not that early
16:15 OldCoder I am catching up with Twits
16:15 OldCoder or Tweets or Twitterings. Whatever.
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16:26 Basstard` Twats.
16:26 Calinou what Basstard` said
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16:31 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/d5c58553df99130abb6fe3d31273b359a2fdbdd5
16:31 * Calinou highfives PilzAdam
16:31 Calinou should be into default game
16:32 PilzAdam *everything* from my fork should be in defautl game
16:32 PilzAdam *default
16:32 * Calinou follows PilzAdam on github now
16:33 PilzAdam i got 3 messages in my feed that say Calinou started following PilzAdam
16:34 Calinou yes, that happens when you click the button several times
16:34 Calinou https://github.com/languages/C < looks like linux is popular on github
16:34 Basstard` PilzAdam: I think that means that Calinou started following PilzAdam.
16:34 PilzAdam cant be...
16:37 Basstard` PilzAdam: No, I'm quite sure it means that.
16:37 PilzAdam naaa
16:38 Calinou forum reached 42000 posts
16:38 Calinou meaning of life * 1000
16:38 PilzAdam :-)
16:38 Basstard` Calinou: Pyrite.
16:39 Calinou python is not right
16:39 Calinou the ore should be Pywrong
16:39 Basstard` Pirogue.
16:40 * PilzAdam did 1.5% of the forum posts
16:40 Basstard` Spammer.
16:40 PilzAdam #15
16:41 Basstard` Spammer with a spanner.
16:41 Jordach Calinou, i take 2 thousands
16:41 Calinou 1156 :p
16:41 Jordach without me - 40000 posts
16:41 Calinou Jordach: in two days, forum birthday for you :D
16:41 Jordach dammit, itsa wednesday
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16:48 PilzAdam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV-gnh1En6E
16:48 NakedFury YouTube Battlefield 4 Trailer [User: freddiew] [Views: 9551585] [114719] [3587] [Time: 00:01:50]
16:49 PilzAdam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axBqV0ccuHI
16:49 NakedFury YouTube Battlefield 4: Co-op [User: freddiew] [Views: 5516585] [73181] [1475] [Time: 00:02:54]
16:50 PilzAdam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axBasdsadas
16:57 PilzAdam cornernote, thanks for this fix: https://github.com/cornernote/minetest_game/commit/561cc73f5a22f42a1aa509053336fb182032a4f2
16:59 Basstard` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktbhw0v186Q
16:59 NakedFury YouTube 10 hours of "What is love" (Jim Carrey, v.1) [User: e7magic] [Views: 7447603] [47595] [607] [Time: 10:00:00]
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17:06 Calinou NakedFury has a bot :o
17:07 NakedFury I want it to inform only me not everyone
17:07 NakedFury need to check how to do it
17:09 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/646e620c03befdbcf59173d0fae74a70ae1f6860
17:12 PilzAdam can i use these nyancat images without hurting copyright: https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest_game/commit/4f7678115317d939b8b7b6aacff709f5ec0a2ef5 ?
17:13 PilzAdam (in my fork of MT_game)
17:13 OldCoder PilzAdam, Doesn't Vanessa have replacements? I added them to my fileset last night
17:14 PilzAdam OldCoder, i mean can i use the replacements and call them nyan cat?
17:14 OldCoder That would not be copyright
17:14 OldCoder That would be trademark
17:14 OldCoder If nyan cat is trademarked call them nian cat instead
17:15 OldCoder Or nyen cat
17:15 OldCoder You get the idea
17:15 PilzAdam Nyän cat
17:16 OldCoder Hmm
17:16 OldCoder Grey area as that will often be interpreted or rendered as Nyan cat
17:17 OldCoder But not bad :-)
17:18 Basstard` Nyån cat.
17:18 OldCoder Same issue
17:19 Basstard` Nyæn cat.
17:19 OldCoder Hmm
17:19 OldCoder Not bad!
17:19 OldCoder Would be rendered as Nyaen cat
17:19 PilzAdam c55 cat
17:19 * OldCoder laughs
17:19 OldCoder Nyæn and C55 cats are both cool
17:20 OldCoder Go for either
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17:21 mito551 hey everyone!
17:21 mito551 PilzAdam, are you here?
17:21 PilzAdam yes
17:21 mito551 good
17:22 mito551 you did the item_drop thing, righT?
17:22 OldCoder Who, me?
17:22 OldCoder I added item_pickup
17:22 OldCoder Which is item_drop without the drop
17:22 OldCoder For now
17:22 PilzAdam mito551, yes
17:22 mito551 which does "minecraftish" drop
17:22 mito551 good. i'm trying to use your function on chest
17:22 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/67f699c3640b5cd2759ed006d975965ecf2f0522
17:23 mito551 so chest would drop it's inventory
17:23 PilzAdam you know about my fork of minetest_game?
17:23 mito551 when i try minetest.handle_node_drops it says that digger is nil
17:23 mito551 yes
17:24 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/5619ac9954e03984a43de052877bb9bdc66c0ad3
17:24 PilzAdam ^ you mean like this?
17:24 mito551 oh.
17:24 mito551 found code
17:24 mito551 sry to bother ;P
17:24 mito551 stupid me
17:24 PilzAdam no problem
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17:25 mito551 thx
17:26 PilzAdam you should use my fork of mt_game
17:27 mito551 thx, but nah. i'm using dwarves :P collecting all the best
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17:36 PilzAdam Calinou, can you move this to mod releases: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=43366 ?
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17:39 Jordach yo PilzAdam
17:39 PilzAdam sup
17:39 Jordach any ideas for a mod that needs textures?
17:39 PilzAdam all my mods ;-)
17:40 Jordach lol, but most of them are fine
17:41 Jordach farming is fine as is
17:41 Jordach also - care to teach a fellow lua modder sometime?
17:42 PilzAdam my mobs mod needs textures
17:42 Jordach hmm
17:43 Jordach we also need a evil player mob :D
17:43 Jordach same texture as player, just with a "white face"
17:43 PilzAdam or one side white; other black
17:43 Basstard` Jordach: No you didn't.
17:43 PilzAdam and he flips a coin
17:44 Jordach TWO-FACE!
17:46 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/c9744cd4ed05c772ba047b3f5a779ad44a65afbc
17:46 PilzAdam ^ color!
17:47 Jordach PilzAdam, teach mes LUA!
17:47 Jordach (not now)
17:48 PilzAdam 1st: forgett all what you think you now about lua!
17:48 PilzAdam *know
17:48 Jordach ikr
17:48 PilzAdam read this: http://www.lua.org/pil/
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17:48 PilzAdam then read this: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
17:48 PilzAdam and then you can write a mod
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17:55 Mika_R hi
17:55 PilzAdam hi
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18:01 Calinou Jordach: lua is not an acronym
18:01 Calinou it's Lua not LUA
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18:01 Calinou PilzAdam: licenses of the mods? ALL the mods should have a license you know
18:01 Calinou it should be in the game's topic
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18:02 Calinou btw: you should not replace the default minetest game
18:03 Calinou I suggest naming your repo pilztest_game :p
18:03 Calinou so that you can play both - normal or your fork
18:03 Calinou and edit readme accordingly :)
18:03 PilzAdam i will see
18:03 CTMN Is PilzAdam online?
18:03 CTMN Oh I see XD
18:04 * PilzAdam isnt realy here
18:04 * PilzAdam is a ghost
18:04 Calinou hi CTMN
18:04 CTMN Hi; whats with PilzAdam?
18:05 * PilzAdam is back now
18:05 CTMN It says "isnt really here"
18:05 PilzAdam joke?
18:05 CTMN \:
18:05 Basstard` PilzAdam is never really "here".
18:06 CTMN Never mind
18:06 * PilzAdam defines here as PilzAdams location
18:06 PilzAdam i *am* here
18:06 PilzAdam CTMN, sup?
18:06 CTMN Ok I understand
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18:07 rubenwardy www.tinyurl.com/mt-tut is a good place to learn lua
18:08 PilzAdam rubenwardy, to learn the minetest modding API but not the language Lua
18:08 rubenwardy that is what i meant, sorry
18:08 CTMN It seems to be a bit like C++
18:08 rubenwardy w/o    ";"
18:08 PilzAdam CTMN, not realy
18:08 rubenwardy w/o == without
18:09 Calinou lua is quite similar to C++ minus pointers and vectors
18:09 Calinou THAT'S IT
18:09 rubenwardy and the semi colons
18:09 PilzAdam Calinou, are functions = variables in c++?
18:09 PilzAdam can you use math and other libaries without including them in c++?
18:09 Calinou nope :P
18:10 Calinou and includes, yes
18:10 PilzAdam can you interpret c++ programms w/o compile?
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18:10 CTMN Oh I see
18:10 PilzAdam Lua is very different from c++
18:10 CTMN I saw some code and it really looked like C++
18:11 PilzAdam code always looks like c
18:11 PilzAdam (except basic)
18:12 PilzAdam <CTMN> Is PilzAdam online? <- what do you want from me?
18:12 CTMN I didn't see that u were online
18:12 CTMN Its my client
18:12 Basstard` I'd say that code always look like machinecode.
18:12 PilzAdam 10101010010010110010100010101010010101010110
18:12 Calinou machinecode == binary
18:13 PilzAdam mov $Calinou,%eax
18:13 PilzAdam ^ assembler
18:13 CTMN LDA #$ FF
18:13 CTMN STA $FFFF
18:13 PilzAdam is nearly machine code
18:14 Calinou MOV PilzAdam TRASH
18:14 CTMN Some Assembler code for an old 8 bit CPU
18:14 PilzAdam ASSEMBLER error: TRASH is not a register
18:14 PilzAdam mov $Calinou, %ebx
18:15 CTMN 80's assembler and today's assembler r different languages
18:15 PilzAdam mov $CODE_FOR_TRASH, %eax
18:15 PilzAdam int 0x80
18:15 PilzAdam and Calinou is away
18:15 PilzAdam (in gnu assembler)
18:16 Calinou :D
18:16 PilzAdam gtg
18:16 PilzAdam bye
18:16 Calinou bye too
18:16 CTMN Bb
18:16 CTMN Although it doesn't make sense if he's already quit
18:16 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3261
18:16 Calinou what
18:16 Calinou the
18:16 Calinou fuck
18:17 Calinou is
18:17 Calinou this
18:17 CTMN What?
18:17 Calinou heard about that fat guy at the tv this afternoon
18:17 CTMN Can u say where I can find it using my browser
18:17 CTMN My client u know
18:18 rubenwardy my mouse keeps freezing when playing minetest online...
18:19 CTMN Be proud, my best hardware lags endless on singleplayer
18:20 CTMN What do u think is the best server?
18:23 rubenwardy Redcrab 0.4.3, when it actually works
18:24 Calinou rubenwardy: alt tab in and out? make sure mouse is plugged in correctly?
18:24 rubenwardy PilzAdam, cornernote, VanessaE, anyone else:
18:24 rubenwardy What do you think about this help article for my mod forum/browser: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/help/entries.php
18:24 rubenwardy nope it is a connection problem
18:24 Calinou cannot load
18:24 Calinou "Petit problème... Google Chrome n'est pas parvenu à accéder à la page multa.bugs3.com."
18:24 Calinou HAY
18:24 Calinou I AM USING CHROMIUM
18:24 Calinou :|
18:24 rubenwardy ffs
18:24 rubenwardy my server is down again
18:25 Calinou use a real host 8)
18:25 rubenwardy i have no money for web hosting
18:25 CTMN Put it in a cloud
18:25 Calinou CTMN: it rains
18:25 CTMN Like dropbox
18:26 CTMN XD
18:26 rubenwardy it is a website, not a file
18:26 Calinou dropbox can host web pages, but only HTML/CSS
18:26 Calinou (and javascript)
18:26 Calinou no php
18:26 Calinou no databases
18:26 CTMN I mean put ur webpage on a cloud server
18:26 Calinou not free
18:26 rubenwardy nope, i need php
18:26 rubenwardy brb
18:26 Calinou dinner now, bye
18:26 CTMN Php for a web page?
18:27 Calinou yes
18:27 Calinou dynamic stuff
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18:27 CTMN Bb calinou
18:27 rubenwardy joined #minetest
18:27 rubenwardy back
18:27 CTMN Can u not make a pure HTML/CSS page?
18:28 CTMN I would do that
18:28 rubenwardy needs php
18:28 rubenwardy it is a mod forum
18:28 rubenwardy back online
18:28 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/help/entries.php
18:29 rubenwardy nope
18:29 rubenwardy server is online, just not displaying my pages
18:29 rubenwardy blank
18:29 rubenwardy might work else where
18:30 rubenwardy working now *crosses fingers*
18:30 rubenwardy PilzAdam, cornernote, VanessaE
18:30 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/help/entries.php
18:31 CTMN It show something
18:31 CTMN Do u have a PC that u can keep on 24/7?
18:31 rubenwardy no
18:32 rubenwardy can you see it? my server is normally reliable, just goes down for 5 mins roughly once a week
18:32 CTMN Do u have to depend on parents?
18:33 rubenwardy huh?
18:33 CTMN Just a question
18:33 CTMN I can't have a server cause of my parents
18:34 rubenwardy my server is hosted else where
18:34 rubenwardy in usa i think
18:34 rubenwardy free
18:34 rubenwardy www.serversfree.com
18:35 CTMN What's the disadvantage?
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18:36 CTMN Ads?
18:36 rubenwardy www. #### .bugs3.com     address
18:36 rubenwardy no ads
18:36 CTMN Nothing else?
18:36 rubenwardy nope
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18:37 CTMN Is it usable for games like MT?
18:37 CTMN No, is it?
18:37 rubenwardy for hosting games? no, it is a web server
18:37 T_A_N_K can a mod move my game mode into mod releases? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3174
18:38 CTMN Then its not interesting for me
18:39 rubenwardy ...
18:39 CTMN I don't need web pages
18:40 CTMN I tried several times to make a game server
18:40 T_A_N_K you don't know how to make a server ?!
18:41 CTMN I DO!!!
18:42 T_A_N_K lkgjdlghksdj
18:42 CTMN But I can't create internet connections using my know-how
18:42 rubenwardy PilzAdam, cornernote_, Calinou:     http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/help/entries.php      it works now, it is a help section on making an entry
18:42 T_A_N_K lolwut? creating internet connections? O.o
18:43 CTMN U didn't read what I wrote before u connected
18:44 CTMN I wanna making a game server, but I can't cause I don't have the password of my NAT-router
18:45 CTMN Edit: of the NAT router standing between the open internet and the computer im using
18:48 T_A_N_K then you cannot make one
18:49 CTMN Didn't think that...
18:49 CTMN -.-
18:50 CTMN I could using Hamachi
18:50 CTMN But then there's the problem with the online times
18:51 T_A_N_K yep
18:51 CTMN So I have to be "the second admin" on a server
18:51 CTMN Actually not a real admin
18:53 rubenwardy gtg
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18:53 CTMN Bb
18:57 CTMN Do u know vortex?
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19:04 Jordach ??? - /me feels random
19:04 Basstard` You are.
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19:24 OWNSyouAll How would i make a block take longer to mine?
19:27 jin_xi Groups such as **crumbly**, **cracky** and **snappy** are used for this purpose. Rating is 1, 2 or 3. A higher rating for such a group implies faster digging time.
19:28 jin_xi read all about it here: https://raw.github.com/celeron55/minetest/master/doc/lua_api.txt
19:31 OWNSyouAll jin_xi: ya thanks but i can't make it higher than 3?
19:32 NakedFury you can but it will not take longer
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19:35 OWNSyouAll is there any reason why its limited at 1 2 or 3?
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19:36 Mika_R anyone know about ubuntu internet problems?
19:44 OldCoder Mika_R, Maybe. What type?
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19:52 Mika_R oldcoder, i disconnected my wired connection but couldn't connect again
19:52 TForsman joined #minetest
19:52 Mika_R didn't have the option
20:04 OldCoder Hi
20:04 OldCoder Back
20:05 OldCoder Not enough information Mika_R. Could be a number of issues. Power cycle of network hardware and reboot of PC did not help?
20:05 OldCoder What is current status?
20:08 Mika_R power cycle of network hardware?
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20:15 Mika_R oldcoder, i turned off the computer, i'll see in the morning what i'll do with it
20:15 Mika_R joined #minetest
20:15 OldCoder Hi
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21:18 OldCoder VanessaE, wb
21:18 OldCoder RealBadAngel, ditto
21:19 VanessaE hey
21:19 OldCoder yeh
21:19 RealBadAngel hi hi
21:19 RealBadAngel just got back from work, 11 pm
21:19 RealBadAngel damn tired
21:20 OldCoder Chill then
21:20 OldCoder with a Chilled Beer
21:20 OldCoder Never Fear
21:20 OldCoder MT is here
21:20 OldCoder Relax
21:21 RealBadAngel about to open one
21:22 VanessaE I just got finished with a different kind of work - updating HDX to support the latest homedecor :-)
21:23 OldCoder Very well
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21:33 Mikeonline hi
21:34 VanessaE OldCoder: tiny update to homedecor this afternoon, but nothing you need to fetch right now - just flattened some images to make the files slightly smaller
21:34 VanessaE hi Mikeonline
21:34 Mikeonline VanessaE can you check out why players still can cheat creative mode in my modified creativ inventory?
21:35 VanessaE I wouldn't know what to look for - I can barely understand inventories as it is
21:35 Mikeonline hm
21:35 OldCoder VanessaE, I will update tomorrow then
21:35 Mikeonline these confuse me
21:35 Mikeonline allow_put = function(inv, listname, index, stack, player)
21:36 Mikeonline dont know what it does in creative inventory
21:41 Mikeonline maybe OldCoder knows?
21:50 OldCoder Hi
21:50 OldCoder Not yet; I am still learning
21:54 Mikeonline hi oc
21:54 jin_xi from the api doc i'd say the function checks if player is allowed to place an item into an inventory, and if so, how many (how much space there is). it returns the numbers of items allowed or -1
21:55 Mikeonline hm
22:37 Mikeonline good nuight all
22:37 OldCoder Night
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22:42 VanessaE OldCoder: new update to homedecor coming soon.  Realized I left something out.
22:45 OldCoder Hi
22:45 OldCoder Fine
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23:14 VanessaE bbl
23:15 OldCoder cul
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23:52 OldCoder MuadTralk, wb
23:52 * OldCoder back in a few minutes
23:53 * VanessaE is back
23:53 OldCoder VanessaE, ^
23:53 OldCoder decor away therefore
23:53 VanessaE OldCoder: you may update at your leisure.  If you have placed yellow glowlights, you'll need to replace them - the nodenames have changed.

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