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00:04 T_A_N_K :D
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00:10 T_A_N_K right now you can only sell 1 at a time, but eventually you'll be able to sell more than one based on the item type (hopefully)
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00:24 cornernote how do you buy/sell ?
00:24 cornernote punch
00:24 cornernote please have formspec
00:25 T_A_N_K you sell by placing a shop, putting an item in there, which then becomes the "shop item" which is the only item you can put into the shop
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00:26 T_A_N_K then you set the price by doing the command /shop PRICE, where price is a number, then punching the shop you want to change the sell price
00:26 T_A_N_K then another player will come over hover over the shop, see the item, and the price, then punch it to buy the item
00:26 cornernote so owner sells, other player buys
00:26 T_A_N_K yes
00:26 cornernote can ppl steal the item ontop ?
00:26 T_A_N_K nope, it's custom
00:27 cornernote i'd like if ppl can sell to it aswell
00:27 T_A_N_K eventually it will say the number of item in stock, but i ran out of energy today
00:27 T_A_N_K that would be part of the groups section i'm going to eventually add in
00:27 cornernote if you use a formspec, you wont have to say number of items instock
00:27 T_A_N_K and it would have to split the value with cents, and that's really too much of a pain
00:27 cornernote just use an inventory
00:27 cornernote then u can sell many items
00:27 cornernote but and sell
00:28 T_A_N_K i kind of like it more like this, it's stupid-proof
00:28 cornernote i want to make player trading
00:28 T_A_N_K well that'll come in this soon, and auctions
00:28 cornernote but dont know how to open a formspec when you click a player
00:28 NekoGloop prolly gonna be difficult
00:29 cornernote i mean like realtime trading
00:29 cornernote like in a mmorpg
00:29 T_A_N_K why do you need formspecs? sometimes good old fashion commands are nice
00:29 cornernote i think FS is easier for newbie players to understand
00:29 T_A_N_K ./trade PLAYERNAME ITEM/HAND PRICE HOWMUCH
00:29 cornernote commands have their place
00:30 T_A_N_K ./trade-accept
00:30 T_A_N_K ./trade-deny
00:30 cornernote hrmm
00:30 cornernote not very pretty
00:30 cornernote but would work
00:30 T_A_N_K functionative and fast is the key
00:30 NekoGloop inb4 inventory plus formspec
00:30 cornernote could make the api, then a command interface... then later do formspec
00:30 NekoGloop (actually that's a good idea)
00:30 NekoGloop make it use an inventory plus formspec
00:30 cornernote like this...
00:30 NekoGloop "Trade" tab
00:30 cornernote in inventory plus they click trade
00:31 cornernote then they type players name
00:31 cornernote and move items into a inventory
00:31 cornernote player gets notified
00:31 NekoGloop yup
00:31 NekoGloop that was my idea.
00:31 cornernote they open inventory, then goto "trade requests"
00:31 cornernote yes it was
00:31 NekoGloop wow you must be psychic :3
00:32 cornernote no, just psycho
00:32 NekoGloop xD
00:33 NekoGloop also, re: throwing mod using inventory plus
00:33 T_A_N_K i turned the freakin locked chest into an item shop, it doesn't get much crazier than that lol
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00:35 cornernote NekoGloop, throwing ?
00:35 cornernote hows that work with IP ?
00:35 NekoGloop yes the bow adding one
00:35 cornernote i thought about some remote tnt detonation or something
00:35 NekoGloop use a formspec to select which arrow you want
00:35 cornernote why not just use the 1st one in the slots ?
00:36 cornernote then u just put the one you dont wanna use at the bottom of inv
00:36 NekoGloop it does currently
00:36 cornernote i prefer that
00:36 NekoGloop it seems kinda hacky to me
00:36 NekoGloop meh, you're just too lazy to code it :3
00:36 cornernote maybe have arrow slots ?
00:36 cornernote lol, yes
00:36 cornernote but so are you
00:37 NekoGloop yes, arrow slots, that's what i mean.
00:37 NekoGloop how else would IP come in to the equation?
00:37 cornernote in a week from now there will be 500 inventory_plus mods lol
00:37 NekoGloop prolly
00:37 cornernote i was really excited when i made it
00:38 cornernote its like a new type of mod can be made now
00:38 NekoGloop yup
00:38 NekoGloop its like MCForge
00:38 NekoGloop except for inventory
00:38 NekoGloop (MCForge being a MC mod)
00:45 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaGmunWRAuM&feature=related something random :3
00:45 NekoGloop i have too many mods that fill my debug.txt with useless stuff.
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00:50 T_A_N_K i quite like your gui for world edit
00:50 cornernote nelo, something like this - http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=43455#p43455
00:50 cornernote *Neko
00:50 cornernote thanks T_A_N_K =)
00:50 cornernote im supprised there isnt more bugs reported, i didnt test it that much
00:51 cornernote having a good api like WE to make it work was really helpful
00:51 NekoGloop not that many bugs i guess ;)
00:51 T_A_N_K lol, i hope people start picking up my essentials plugin, it has anti-grief for an adjustable spawn radius
00:52 cornernote im going to have a read of it now
00:52 NekoGloop also, cornernote, i like to be called GloopMaster on more official things like forums, same as T_A_N_K has T_A_N_K and jordan-whatsit-ez
00:52 cornernote kk, i'll edit
00:53 NekoGloop also, home GUI could be a -bit- bigger with the window. no need to cramp the buttons in there.
00:54 cornernote they are cramped ?
00:54 cornernote i thought it looked nice
00:54 cornernote which page ?  the main page ?
00:55 NekoGloop the home GUI
00:55 NekoGloop that's a bit cramped together lol
00:55 cornernote https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-inventory_plus/blob/master/init.lua#L54
00:55 cornernote what do you recommend ?
00:56 cornernote at the moment, buttons are 2x0.5
00:56 NekoGloop i want the buttons to have more space between eachother
00:56 NekoGloop but just for home GUI menu
00:56 NekoGloop (the home_gui addon)
00:56 cornernote then they space at x=0 2 4 6 (y+1) 0 2 4 6
00:57 NekoGloop cornernote: i mean the home_gui addon, not the home menu
00:57 cornernote ohhh
00:57 cornernote sorry
00:57 cornernote yeah, its a bit tiny
00:57 NekoGloop those buttons are cramped and claustriphobic :3
00:58 cornernote make a patch, the mod is really small
00:58 cornernote https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-home_gui/blob/master/init.lua#L58
00:58 cornernote if it looks better (which wouldnt be hard) i'll accept it
01:00 NekoGloop meh too lazy
01:00 cornernote essentials looks really goof T_A_N_K
01:00 cornernote good
01:01 cornernote cant type today :S
01:01 T_A_N_K lol i was like "oh god who hacked it?" lol
01:02 NekoGloop who hacked what?
01:02 cornernote its a mod right, not a gamemode
01:02 cornernote its ok, i see
01:02 cornernote just reading the code now
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01:03 T_A_N_K the thread
01:03 T_A_N_K yes, it's more of a plugin
01:03 cornernote may i recommend adding namespace to your save files?
01:03 T_A_N_K it doesn't really mod the game at all, it just adds in some necessary things
01:03 cornernote local file = io.open(minetest.get_worldpath().."/essentials_spawn", "r")
01:04 cornernote incase another mod saves to that file
01:04 T_A_N_K well i'm actually going to overhaul that entire thing in a little while
01:05 cornernote if you make it so that its callable via api, i will probably make a formspec gui for parts of it (if thats ok)
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01:06 T_A_N_K well honestly i don't think i'm ever going to do it, it's supposed to be simple and light weight
01:06 T_A_N_K just set it once and you're done
01:06 cornernote maybe for spawn, and other admin chatcommands
01:06 cornernote yeah, i guess ur right
01:06 cornernote you dont change the spawn every day
01:08 T_A_N_K i just need the /sethome and /setspawn to round to NUMBER.5 so you get teleported to the middle of the block
01:08 khonkhortisan I like the ambience mod, but that eagle is annoying
01:09 T_A_N_K i hear so much of this ambience mod
01:09 T_A_N_K is it like minecraft's?
01:15 khonkhortisan I don't know what minecraft is like, really. The water splashes when you swim on it, makes bubbling sounds when you swim in it, there's bat sounds when you're in a cave, and ocean sounds at the beach. And music and a bird.
01:20 leo_rockw cornernote: I posted in one of the threads (I believe it was the hunger one) that inventory_plus could be used for RPG-like stats.
01:20 leo_rockw also, a numeric value showing +X armor points, in the armor mod, would be nice to have.
01:21 leo_rockw I stopped checking MT for a few days and lots of great things have shown up =]
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01:49 * VanessaE peeks in for a sec
01:49 khonkhortisan modders read: http://www.luafaq.org/gotchas.html
01:50 * NekoGloop gives vanessae a cookie
01:50 khonkhortisan is there a cookie mod?
01:50 NekoGloop prolly
01:53 khonkhortisan I did 6.4 in that link
01:59 Wanderer No point in this identity any longer
02:04 VanessaE bbl
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02:24 khonkhortisan buBBLe to you too
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02:39 T_A_N_K shops are almost 98% done
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02:42 NekoGloop hi RealBadAngel
02:42 T_A_N_K i think i might be able to release this, i just need to know how to delete entities
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02:53 khonkhortisan 97.5% < shops < 98%
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03:03 * M13 Needs to read the Hunger Games (Its a Addiction from Hell)
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03:11 khonkhortisan well great. The node is called "default:steelblock" and the texture is "default_steel_block.png". That breaks my automatic material-to-texture function.
03:12 NekoGloop Never assume that textures are named similarly to the blocks
03:13 khonkhortisan default:desert_stone is default_desert_stone.png | what do I do, minetest.registered_nodes[node.name].tiles[1]?
03:15 NekoGloop Prolly.
03:17 khonkhortisan haha particles has the same problem
03:26 cornernote khonk, this is how PilzAdam handled it when he pushed to particles: https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-particles/blob/master/init.lua#L80
03:26 cornernote but u probably already saw that i guess
03:26 khonkhortisan haven't looked at it yet
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03:28 T_A_N_K how would i go about reading from a file?
03:29 khonkhortisan I think I crashed kate
03:29 khonkhortisan now it's responding
03:29 T_A_N_K lol
03:30 T_A_N_K i tried this: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7fDCgEB7
03:30 T_A_N_K without the "locals"
03:30 T_A_N_K but it seems that nothing else will be loaded up
03:30 khonkhortisan nowhere is one word
03:31 khonkhortisan that's a syntax error
03:31 T_A_N_K hm
03:32 khonkhortisan I see two things, that you are checking the type of pos (which string_to_pos should return correctly), and that you are processing the line before string_to_pos. Why are you running string.sub?
03:35 khonkhortisan You could use a table setting table[playernum].name and table[playernum).pos and save and load the whole table directly to and from the file. That way you wouldn't have to process it further.
03:44 T_A_N_K i'm gently carressing the strangest code i've ever written into a malformed way that works in ways that i do not understand
03:44 NekoGloop Sounds like jeija and mesecons
03:46 T_A_N_K lmao
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04:01 T_A_N_K and this is what i ended up with
04:01 T_A_N_K https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/Minetest-Essentials/blob/5338d37621d2cf5d8764368df26215c69a8a7840/essentials_mods/spawn.lua
04:01 T_A_N_K weird, but it works
04:02 T_A_N_K now it won't be reading from disk constantly
04:03 T_A_N_K bb
04:03 khonkhortisan you should say "You place nodes in the spawn"
04:09 NekoGloop Meow.
04:17 khonkhortisan the rubiks cube is now made from 100% wool
04:17 NekoGloop Sweet
04:17 khonkhortisan only the top and bottom rotate correctly, though.
04:20 khonkhortisan Mind taking a look at how it rotates and telling me what I'm doing wrong?
04:20 NekoGloop iPad
04:22 khonkhortisan Misquote from Over the Hedge: "Less iClaw, more iPad."
04:22 khonkhortisan Yes, I did google the name of the movie just to say that.
04:22 NekoGloop xD
04:25 khonkhortisan Maybe after it works right I'll add in some entities to animate the side spinning
04:25 cornernote just looked at that MC theft from infiminer vid that leo_rockway posted
04:25 cornernote it has player classes!
04:26 * khonkhortisan doesn't know exactly what that means
04:26 cornernote like you can choose what type of player you want to be
04:26 khonkhortisan dwarf/human/gnome-type thing?
04:26 cornernote a miner, prospector, engineer, sapper
04:26 cornernote yeah
04:26 cornernote interesting concept
04:27 khonkhortisan Is that tied into an economy or does it only affect things like dig/build time, sight, spawn items?
04:27 cornernote they all look like mario
04:30 NekoGloop Cornernote, thought of making a craftguide for inventory plus? Multiple "guides", i.e. one for tools, one for nodes, one for craftitems...
04:31 cornernote could make CI run off IP
04:31 cornernote dunno about different guides yet
04:31 khonkhortisan so that's what IP is
04:32 cornernote still thinking of ways to allow zillions of items to be easily findable
04:32 cornernote inventoryplus
04:32 NekoGloop Searchbar? :3
04:32 cornernote yeah
04:32 khonkhortisan scrollbars!
04:32 cornernote something like that
04:32 cornernote not scroll
04:32 khonkhortisan :(
04:32 cornernote it has to be pagination
04:32 khonkhortisan it was worth a try
04:32 cornernote no scroll in formspec
04:32 cornernote implement html browser to replace formspec =)
04:33 cornernote then i will
04:33 khonkhortisan RealBadAngel, there's your 100% wool
04:37 NekoGloop Meow.
04:38 khonkhortisan Woof from out in the yard
04:38 * NekoGloop stays in the house
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04:39 khonkhortisan Neko, meet Neko. :P
04:39 NekoGloop We've met already.
04:39 khonkhortisan <-- it's nice to have a unique name
04:40 NekoGloop If you need to distingush us, call me Gloop.
04:40 khonkhortisan or Master
04:40 khonkhortisan what else besides woolcraft gives you wool?
04:40 NekoGloop Farming
04:41 cornernote flowers
04:41 cornernote i think
04:41 OldCoder khonkhortisan, woolite
04:42 OldCoder minesheep?
04:42 OldCoder Oh
04:42 OldCoder nm
04:42 khonkhortisan Does depends.txt understand conditional dependencies? (I think I already know the answer) "woolcraft or farming or flowers"
04:42 NekoGloop Flowers doesnt do wool i dont think.
04:42 NekoGloop No khon.
04:42 khonkhortisan I have a fake cotton farm, half flowers, half cotton
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09:02 thisistheworld 'sup
09:37 cornernote_ hey
09:38 jin_xi hey cornernote
10:57 cornernote_ jin_xi, whats happening ?
10:57 cornernote_ im on the forums too much
10:58 cornernote_ nothing is new :(
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11:10 RealBadAngel hi minetesters
11:10 RealBadAngel whats up?
11:29 cornernote_ oh no
11:30 cornernote_ i just went to update my server to 0.4.3 so i can play with all these new mods
11:30 cornernote_ and there is no minetestserver.exe :(
11:30 cornernote_ i have to build it myself
11:30 cornernote_ arg
11:30 RealBadAngel hehe
11:31 RealBadAngel as a full grown minetester you shall used to be do-it-yourself man
11:31 cornernote_ i'll check sfan5's build
11:31 cornernote_ damn
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11:32 RealBadAngel also missed?
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11:46 cornernote i think sfan5 is going to include it in his builds
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12:33 NekoGloop Hello~
12:37 RealBadAngel hi
12:37 RealBadAngel whassup?
12:38 NekoGloop Nothing much
12:39 RealBadAngel im lookin forward for saturday
12:39 RealBadAngel kinda inpatient
12:39 NekoGloop I want the house that captainsparklez used in the revenge vid for the singer's house thingy
12:40 NekoGloop That thing looks awesome lol
12:40 RealBadAngel its rendered
12:40 RealBadAngel its not actual gameplay
12:40 NekoGloop I know
12:40 RealBadAngel you know?
12:40 NekoGloop But i still want that house in mt just to say i have it lol
12:40 RealBadAngel looks awesome btw
12:40 NekoGloop Maybe minus the fireplace because fire sucks in my
12:41 NekoGloop mt*
12:41 RealBadAngel its the lights
12:41 NekoGloop There's glowstone in the floor
12:41 RealBadAngel all the gameplay is missing are the lights
12:41 NekoGloop Oh you mean the way the light is rendered ingame
12:42 RealBadAngel yup
12:42 NekoGloop House would still be epic
12:42 RealBadAngel thats why render mods looks so epic
12:42 RealBadAngel seen the mod?
12:42 NekoGloop Yes, you've linked it previousl
12:43 RealBadAngel with bump mapping too?
12:43 NekoGloop I have no idea what that is
12:44 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmTvSYEcGAw
12:44 RealBadAngel catch
12:45 NekoGloop 3d effects are just optical illusions in textures.
12:45 NekoGloop But still, that does look great.
12:46 NekoGloop Although that cactus looks kinda funny xD
12:46 RealBadAngel go on
12:46 RealBadAngel tell me somethin bout gold blocks
12:47 NekoGloop Shader effects + a block setting
12:48 RealBadAngel yup
12:48 RealBadAngel not much
12:48 NekoGloop Would like to see something in mt that allows this.
12:48 RealBadAngel but effect is ... grounding
12:49 NekoGloop However mt needs a bit of a... Cleanup with the code that's there first.
12:50 RealBadAngel thats not mt case
12:50 NekoGloop Well then fix the memory leaks and try to improve loadtime
12:50 RealBadAngel graphics engine allows such shit
12:50 NekoGloop I.e. cleanup the code.
12:50 RealBadAngel its irchliht stuff
12:50 NekoGloop Then (ab)use the graphics engine.
12:51 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9njr9jSkaY
12:51 RealBadAngel watch
12:51 RealBadAngel thats our engine
12:51 NekoGloop The "TNT" song is ingame video though, correct?
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12:52 RealBadAngel dunno
12:53 RealBadAngel guess so
12:53 NekoGloop Also, is "Slender" rendered in irrichlit? (or however you spell it)? That would be a good example for me.
12:53 RealBadAngel last link i passed
12:53 RealBadAngel thats actual our engine
12:53 NekoGloop I know that!
12:53 RealBadAngel so
12:54 NekoGloop It looks like the game "Slender"!
12:54 RealBadAngel why the fuck we dont have it
12:54 RealBadAngel if the engine allows it
12:54 NekoGloop Because mt is supposed to be minimalistic graphics
12:54 RealBadAngel well
12:54 NekoGloop Also it's supposedly able to run on really old computers.
12:55 RealBadAngel im not supposed to be doing well with 3cm long dick
12:55 NekoGloop (even though my friend's computer runs mt at 1fps)
12:55 RealBadAngel mine is longer
12:55 NekoGloop TMI
12:56 RealBadAngel and i wont be sayin all around "get longer one"
12:56 RealBadAngel or shorter
12:56 NekoGloop Still TMI
12:56 RealBadAngel this is what c55 is doing
12:57 RealBadAngel i do like old machines, but hello
12:57 RealBadAngel its 21st century
12:57 RealBadAngel almost alll microvawes are able to run this code
12:58 NekoGloop Also, my comp isnt that old, yet has issues with running mt well.
12:58 NekoGloop You people supposedly get 300fps?
12:58 NekoGloop Pfft i cap out at 20.
12:58 RealBadAngel 25 is ok
12:58 NekoGloop And yes i changed the fps max
12:58 NekoGloop And the target fps,
13:00 RealBadAngel that shall be aviable through settings
13:00 RealBadAngel i want AA, BM, or whatever
13:00 RealBadAngel so i ENABLE this
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13:01 RealBadAngel since the game just DISABLE that
13:01 NekoGloop Sure whatever.
13:01 RealBadAngel thats not whatever
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13:02 NekoGloop It is most certainly whatever
13:02 RealBadAngel its a feature that can make the game FLY
13:02 RealBadAngel and look awesome
13:02 RealBadAngel but one chosen to disable it
13:03 RealBadAngel for sake of runnig the game on old microvawes
13:04 RealBadAngel i get the point, but that shall be done in a menu
13:04 RealBadAngel on/off
13:04 NekoGloop Re: my friend's comp runs it at 1fps
13:05 NekoGloop That's WITH all the graphics options i know of off.
13:05 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, im 39 yrs old guy
13:05 RealBadAngel when i like somethin
13:05 RealBadAngel and feel it needs more power
13:05 RealBadAngel i just buy it
13:06 T_A_N_K good day
13:06 NekoGloop Good mornin tank
13:06 RealBadAngel hi tank
13:07 RealBadAngel i felt minecraft wanted some more ram
13:07 RealBadAngel i upgraded my machine to 8gb
13:08 NekoGloop Good for you.
13:08 RealBadAngel costed as much as one party with grill
13:08 NekoGloop Good for you.
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13:09 RealBadAngel so what
13:09 M13_ i hate LandMine
13:09 RealBadAngel lol
13:10 RealBadAngel good point
13:10 M13_ my best fucking computer that i have a grand into doesnt run and im pissed
13:10 NekoGloop That's always a good point.
13:10 RealBadAngel i told once how to get rid of such assholes
13:10 M13_ i did
13:10 RealBadAngel but c55 wont listen
13:10 M13_ he hacked my shit
13:11 M13_ NO
13:11 RealBadAngel for sake of load
13:11 M13_ im going to talk to celeron about this shit
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13:11 RealBadAngel each client action shall be checked by the server
13:12 RealBadAngel like showin ID
13:12 M13_ yea he has a hacked client that gives him all the privs by default
13:12 M13_ landmine does
13:12 RealBadAngel no
13:12 M13_ now my servers are fucked
13:12 RealBadAngel EACH one
13:12 M13_ IK
13:12 RealBadAngel i try to dig, i show id
13:13 M13_ ik his ID
13:13 M13_ me and OldCoder do
13:13 RealBadAngel server checks, let me do that
13:13 M13_ ok
13:13 RealBadAngel not valid id? get the fuck outa here
13:13 M13_ me?
13:13 RealBadAngel lol
13:14 M13_ wow -_- cyah
13:14 M13_ no wait sfan
13:14 RealBadAngel you havent got the point
13:14 M13_ sfan5
13:14 NekoGloop It wasnt directed at you.
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13:15 M13_ ok
13:15 RealBadAngel lololol
13:15 M13_ how the fuck am i going to fix my shit
13:15 RealBadAngel with toilet paper
13:15 M13_ my baby is fucked
13:15 NekoGloop By giving it a cookie
13:16 M13_ ITS NOT A LAUGHING MATTER
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13:16 OldCoder M13_, Hi
13:16 RealBadAngel shit is a .... very serious stuff
13:16 OldCoder M13_, do you have backups?
13:16 RealBadAngel not to laugh
13:16 RealBadAngel hi OldCoder
13:17 OldCoder Will Misael talk to me? I've done some more research. RealBadAngel Hi. I'm not over the top myself any longer.
13:17 OldCoder He's actually made the radar of the big boys.
13:17 RealBadAngel OldCoder, youre overeactin a bit a think
13:17 NekoGloop No he's not.
13:18 OldCoder No. See above. I'm not over the top ATM.
13:18 M13_ yea he needs to go fuck up and go to jail
13:18 RealBadAngel let him fuck himself
13:18 OldCoder M13_, RealBadAngel It's all fine. Except for the wrecked servers.
13:18 OldCoder O.K. Forget LM for the moment.
13:18 M13_ yes
13:18 RealBadAngel i know the solution
13:18 OldCoder M13_, isn't rollback possible?
13:18 M13_ no my COMPUTER IS FUCKED
13:18 OldCoder M13_, Let me scroll up for a moment
13:18 M13_ COMPUTER
13:18 NekoGloop The computer itself was hacked.
13:18 OldCoder Ugh
13:19 OldCoder Hold on; let me review
13:19 RealBadAngel you know the definition of botnet?
13:19 OldCoder RealBadAngel, yes
13:19 OldCoder What happened?
13:19 RealBadAngel we are many
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13:19 OldCoder All right
13:19 RealBadAngel any more questions?
13:19 M13_ damn  I Hate that bastured
13:19 OldCoder M13_, Was it Ubuntu?
13:19 RealBadAngel so lets kick him
13:19 M13_ yes
13:19 OldCoder RealBadAngel, help M13_ for a minute
13:20 RealBadAngel k
13:20 M13_ it took me 2 damn days to get that computer running
13:20 OldCoder M13_, was any of the hardware damaged? Through CMOS hacks etc.? If not, what was truly lost?
13:20 OldCoder Aside from time which is precious
13:20 M13_ my Computers graphic cards are fucked
13:20 M13_ card*
13:20 T_A_N_K COUGH SERVER ESSENTIALS
13:20 OldCoder Double ugh. So that is possible these days. He's cost you $$$
13:20 OldCoder T_A_N_K, go on
13:21 M13_ Yes
13:21 OldCoder I am a novice at some of this
13:21 M13_ no
13:21 NekoGloop COUGH IT WAS A HACK OF THE COMPUTER ITSELF
13:21 OldCoder NekoGloop, the firmware??
13:21 OldCoder <--- Novice to this bold new world
13:21 RealBadAngel i think gettin 50 folks not likin landmine was doin shouldn be a problem
13:21 T_A_N_K well, then you need to figure that out for yourself
13:21 NekoGloop Idk but from his explantion prolly.
13:21 OldCoder T_A_N_K, thanks for your assistance kid. Real help :p
13:21 T_A_N_K i am not a kid, and did you give landmine access to your pc?
13:22 OldCoder M13_, spell it out as T_A_N_K feels playful. I am from antedeluvian times. Did he hack the firmware?
13:22 RealBadAngel 50 different ips, runnin the script to ping or any other activity towards this asshole ip
13:22 OldCoder T_A_N_K, are you addressing me? If so, no.
13:22 RealBadAngel should be a problem
13:22 RealBadAngel shouldnt
13:22 OldCoder RealBadAngel, it is simple. I talk to his people in real life.
13:22 T_A_N_K oh right, this is why i had you on ignore
13:22 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I brought in some real folks.
13:22 M13_ he hacked into my software (TV) and hacked my frimware from there
13:22 RealBadAngel lets jamn him
13:22 M13_ my computer boots
13:22 OldCoder T_A_N_K, you ignored me? LM? RealBadAngel?
13:23 OldCoder M13_, so how bad is it?
13:23 T_A_N_K m13_, how many ports do you exactly have open?
13:23 M13_ i can get it to run
13:23 OldCoder T_A_N_K, if you're going to play with ignore leave it that way
13:23 OldCoder T_A_N_K, it's confusing otherwise
13:23 M13_ 30000 to 30004
13:23 OldCoder RealBadAngel, they say he's on the radar but not considered serious
13:23 T_A_N_K what port was the tv running on?
13:24 M13_ idk
13:24 RealBadAngel no
13:24 RealBadAngel fuck the radar
13:24 T_A_N_K there's your problem lol
13:24 RealBadAngel jamm him
13:24 OldCoder RealBadAngel, not simple. He's switched to using the web gateway
13:24 M13_ no Who can hack his ass WITH cmos
13:24 RealBadAngel all we need is his real ip
13:24 OldCoder T_A_N_K, indicate who you are addressing. For example: (a) are you ignoring me? Misael?
13:25 M13_ ill get that
13:25 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Yes and there is a plan for that
13:25 NekoGloop Ok so everyone stop using web gateway.
13:25 OldCoder NekoGloop, yes. But what about the griefing and server hacks?
13:25 RealBadAngel once you provide me that
13:25 RealBadAngel i will shut it down
13:25 OldCoder T_A_N_K, by now people know what I am. Be as literal as possible please.
13:25 M13_ stop talking Everyone!
13:25 OldCoder ^ Has the floor
13:25 RealBadAngel i do have many friends
13:26 OldCoder RealBadAngel, then PM
13:26 M13_ Im going to talk to my tech teacher (He knows Ubuntu and we are going to fix this)
13:26 RealBadAngel = many machines, many scripts runnin all the time
13:26 OldCoder T_A_N_K, and stop muddling about
13:26 NekoGloop Am i the only one he is uninterested in or something?
13:26 OldCoder NekoGloop, apparently
13:26 M13_ OldCoder
13:26 OldCoder Meow at him he'll throw a boot at you
13:26 T_A_N_K no, i am not interested either lol
13:26 OldCoder M13_, yes
13:27 OldCoder T_A_N_K, then why mix into it? But up to you. Help or don't.
13:27 OldCoder RealBadAngel, there is an IP address plan
13:27 RealBadAngel btw, i was channel op on #sex on ircnet for many years
13:27 OldCoder RealBadAngel, go on
13:27 NekoGloop Dat channel name
13:27 M13_ OldCoder, do you know someone that can host my friends that play on my server a server?
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13:27 OldCoder M13_, Me
13:27 M13_ you can
13:27 RealBadAngel when some1 was just wrong
13:27 OldCoder Yes
13:27 OldCoder RealBadAngel, go on
13:27 M13_ 0.4.3?
13:28 OldCoder M13_, whatever you want temporarily
13:28 M13_ ok
13:28 RealBadAngel or we felt hes going the wrong way
13:28 OldCoder M13_, listening to RealBadAngel ATM
13:28 M13_ we can talk about thus later
13:28 OldCoder M13_, yes
13:28 RealBadAngel we just picked the country
13:28 OldCoder M13_, sorry about the PC. Time to move forward.
13:28 RealBadAngel and called the police
13:28 M13_ yes it is
13:29 T_A_N_K m13, call the fbi not the police
13:29 OldCoder RealBadAngel, that is what I am trying to do. Not one of you is helping. Well, actually about four are behind the scenes.
13:29 T_A_N_K this is an fbi type case now
13:29 M13_ but that pc is special
13:29 OldCoder T_A_N_K, you in or out? And you *are* a kid to me.
13:29 RealBadAngel we did that
13:29 RealBadAngel and it worked
13:29 M13_ OldCoder
13:29 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I have already taken things steps in that direction
13:30 OldCoder M13_, yes. You *know* I am here ATM. No need to page.
13:30 OldCoder :-)
13:30 T_A_N_K oldcoder, i see that i am getting blank alerts because you are on ignore, please stop mentioning my name
13:30 RealBadAngel steps are not enough
13:30 M13_ can my computer not be booting because of a memory leack
13:30 M13_ leak*
13:30 RealBadAngel theres a hammer needed
13:30 OldCoder T_A_N_K, I did not know that. I owe you nothing. I am busy ATM.
13:30 OldCoder M13_, no
13:30 OldCoder M13_, depends
13:30 OldCoder M13_, boot a Ubuntu CD
13:31 OldCoder What happens?
13:31 OldCoder RealBadAngel, and somebody tell T_A_N_K to butt out please
13:31 M13_ one sec
13:31 RealBadAngel i dont like some mexico guy ruined the gane
13:31 RealBadAngel *game
13:31 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Mexico is irrelevant. But this is supposed to be about fun
13:31 M13_ ill boot the CD after i get back from school
13:31 OldCoder M13_, Ah!
13:31 M13_ i need to Edit the Forums
13:32 OldCoder M13_, O.K. Good luck
13:32 RealBadAngel fun will be for whole the community to get rid of the bastard
13:32 OldCoder RealBadAngel, glad to see you're on board. PM today and I'll bring you up to speed.
13:32 OldCoder About time actually. You *are* an adult
13:32 OldCoder I don't think T_A_N_K is
13:32 RealBadAngel we do have ip's
13:32 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I'd still like to discuss Open Music BTW
13:32 RealBadAngel we are the community
13:33 T_A_N_K oldcoder is now blocked from my client
13:33 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I have been stuck in this for weeks
13:33 OldCoder T_A_N_K, good
13:33 RealBadAngel lets get him flooded
13:33 OldCoder RealBadAngel, this business with T_A_N_K is tedious. I'd like him to know I don't care.
13:33 OldCoder RealBadAngel, you need to understand... this has already been researched
13:33 RealBadAngel my machine never offs
13:33 OldCoder The IP address issue anyway
13:34 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I don't think there's anything more to say ATM. If you'd like to talk turkey PM me.
13:34 RealBadAngel i can easily try to send him a file
13:34 RealBadAngel while im sleepin
13:34 RealBadAngel all the time
13:34 OldCoder Hmm
13:34 RealBadAngel exactly
13:34 OldCoder RealBadAngel, PM
13:36 T_A_N_K wasn't cornernot one of the orignial minetest devs?
13:36 T_A_N_K s/cornernot/cornernote
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13:37 NekoGloop Not to my knowledge
13:38 T_A_N_K oh okay
13:42 M13 joined #minetest
13:42 M13 OldCoder
13:42 M13 im going to see if sfan5 will compile minetest-m13 for us :P
13:43 M13 well going to school cyah
13:43 T_A_N_K now i see why my dad has every port locked down
13:43 T_A_N_K lol
13:44 OldCoder MiJyn, O.K.
13:44 OldCoder Uh
13:44 OldCoder M13 O.K.
13:44 * OldCoder shrugs
13:44 OldCoder So T_A_N_K *is* a kid
13:45 T_A_N_K what else could the spawnpoint be protected from? all i have is falling entities
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13:47 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi
13:47 OldCoder VanessaE, M13 hardware got hacked. He was kind of pissed.
13:47 OldCoder VanessaE, Apparently machines themselves can be griefed these days.
13:49 OldCoder Oh and BTW as a personal favor...
13:49 OldCoder I don't know what it's all about. But somebody tell T_A_N_K I don't know what bee flew up his ass and I don't give a flying f*** if his "client" is "blocking" me. Nice of him to interrupt something serious just to tell us that.
13:51 OldCoder One more thing for the group. As I understand it M13 had something bad happen in real life yesterday. Not the wrecked computer. So this was icing on the cake. Support him if you can.
13:51 OldCoder I have work to do.
13:51 OldCoder If anybody wants to be more helpful than young Mr. T_A_N_K here is you can page me.
13:51 OldCoder
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13:54 T_A_N_K jeija: may i help you make mesecons compatable with spawn protection so that players cannot push lava into the spawn?
13:55 Jeija If you want to... Better would be an overall privilege system for any areas
13:56 T_A_N_K true, but i want it so pistons cannot push lava into the spawn area in any scenario, so if the lava block was not in the spawn area, mesecons calculates that, and if the new position for the block is in the spawn, then do not push the block
13:57 T_A_N_K "towny" will come later on
13:58 Jeija the problem is that pistons/movestones can also push multiple blocks; And what about effectors/conductors in the spawn area?
13:58 nyan-cat sorry for the cross-post, but #minetest-mods has only a few users. any idea on this? http://stirkbin.com/b14055
13:59 T_A_N_K hm, then i will attempt to make it so that if spawn protection is enabled, pistons can only move one block
13:59 nyan-cat wait, how can even the pistons push liquids?
14:00 T_A_N_K "magic"
14:01 NekoGloop Pistons can irl
14:05 nyan-cat ah solved the issue
14:05 nyan-cat had to add default to depends.txt
14:06 T_A_N_K now i will definately not be opening up the infinity server
14:06 NekoGloop Just dont use port 30000 and dont post in the forums
14:07 T_A_N_K no, that's not good enough, landmine already knows my ip adress
14:07 T_A_N_K he'll search me far and wide, hamachi is what i use to run a server
14:08 T_A_N_K too bad really, i was going to have an incredible server
14:10 NekoGloop So run it on another ip
14:11 T_A_N_K even if i used hamachi to become unhackable that wouldn't work, this guy is too good
14:11 nyan-cat T_A_N_K: you have a static IP?
14:11 T_A_N_K i believe so
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14:13 T_A_N_K even if i used dyndns i think i'd still be vunerable
14:17 nyan-cat T_A_N_K: dyndns is evil!
14:17 nyan-cat don't use it
14:17 NekoGloop Use it.
14:17 nyan-cat I was constantly flooded with ICMP ECHO and other DoS attacks when I used DynDNS
14:18 nyan-cat ICMP ECHO normally isn't DoS
14:18 nyan-cat but malformed packet size
14:18 T_A_N_K hmm, my friend who ran lostthatfish minecraft servers didn't have issues with it
14:18 nyan-cat also, light level 15/30 seems too low for my lantern. should I just increase it even higher to make it brighter?
14:18 T_A_N_K yes
14:20 nyan-cat increased it to 100, no visible change
14:20 nyan-cat and yes I restarted my "server"
14:20 nyan-cat I didn't forget to save because I got a syntax error earlier
14:20 nyan-cat meh I guess it's good enough
14:20 T_A_N_K i wonder if the /reload command could be a dofile command
14:21 nyan-cat 15 is apparently the highest possible light level
14:21 nyan-cat just as in MC
14:21 nyan-cat what is /pulverize?
14:21 T_A_N_K deletes the item in hand
14:21 nyan-cat also lol no physics
14:21 nyan-cat desert sand doesn't fal
14:21 nyan-cat l
14:22 T_A_N_K it does
14:22 nyan-cat not for me
14:22 T_A_N_K you dig the block under it
14:22 nyan-cat oh right
14:22 nyan-cat it has a lantern below
14:22 nyan-cat (from my mod)
14:22 nyan-cat wtf
14:22 nyan-cat the sand was transformed into a lantern
14:22 nyan-cat when I placed it above
14:22 nyan-cat graphical glitches.
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14:23 T_A_N_K take a pic!
14:23 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
14:23 T_A_N_K i want to see this
14:23 T_A_N_K hi pilzadam
14:23 PilzAdam sup
14:24 NekoGloop Not much
14:24 T_A_N_K just farting in every one's general direction
14:26 PilzAdam is a forum op here?
14:26 NekoGloop Prolly
14:27 T_A_N_K sfan5, calinou, vanessae, YOU'RE NEEDED
14:27 sfan5 wut?
14:27 PilzAdam sfan5, can you move this to old mods: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1432
14:27 sfan5 ok
14:27 T_A_N_K sfan5 are you still sulking over your cloak?
14:27 PilzAdam it has no download link in the first post and is not supported anymore (i think)
14:28 sfan5 T_A_N_K: no
14:30 T_A_N_K oh okay
14:30 T_A_N_K R.I.P. cloak jr.
14:31 sfan5 for what do you need me?
14:31 T_A_N_K me?
14:31 OldCoder sfan5, possibly to lecture and block you. He seems to be in that mode.
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14:32 sfan5 T_A_N_K: you said i'm needed
14:32 T_A_N_K yes, pilzadam needed a forum mod, and you are one
14:32 sfan5 oh, ok
14:33 nyan-cat T_A_N_K: Calinou isn't even here right now
14:33 T_A_N_K oopsies
14:33 sfan5 oh, hai nyan-cat from #minecraft
14:34 nyan-cat hi
14:34 sfan5 �
14:34 sfan5 ���(s�oؚO��
14:34 sfan5 mainMainbasghc-prim
14:34 sfan5 integer-gmGHC.BaseGHC.Float
14:34 sfan5 Data.Either
14:34 sfan5 Data.Maybe
14:34 sfan5 GHC.GenericsGHC.TuplePreludeSystem.IO
14:34 sfan5 woops
14:34 T_A_N_K OH GOD, it's random characters
14:34 sfan5 no
14:35 sfan5 its 'main = putStrLn "Hallo Welt!"' compiled to a .hi file
14:35 T_A_N_K oh, windows apparently doesn't have those characters
14:38 NekoGloop iPad doesnt either
14:38 NekoGloop I shall switch to my computer soon
14:38 * PilzAdam doesnt understand how one can use an IPad
14:39 NekoGloop It's called Colloquy IRC client
14:39 NekoGloop Also i dont play mt on it.
14:39 NekoGloop (go figure)
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14:48 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=43584
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14:50 NekoGloop Meow~
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14:51 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=43584
14:52 NekoGloop simple mobs crashes minetest; mobf sucks
14:52 T_A_N_K yea mobf does suck
14:52 PilzAdam crash is a problem in win build
14:52 OldCoder Jordach, hello
14:52 Jordach hello OldCoder - i see you reverted nick
14:52 T_A_N_K pilzadam your agressive mob ai is very clean
14:53 T_A_N_K i like it a lot, and i think it can go very far, and make a lot of mobs
14:53 OldCoder Jordach, yes. I have my bearings now. BTW LM damaged M13 hardware. The actual hardware. More in PM later.
14:54 Jordach GOD DAMN
14:54 NekoGloop on a different note, can someone help me decode how the armor mod works?
14:54 T_A_N_K bb
14:55 NekoGloop I want the player to start with ...=3 as the groups, not ...=4
14:55 NekoGloop something in register_on_joinplayer i presume, as well as the handler for moving armor
14:56 NekoGloop oh i think i've got it!
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14:58 \n I've made my first mod with a lamp block; it works fine except that it's too dark in inventory. How can I fix that?
14:59 PilzAdam set the inventory_image value
14:59 PilzAdam (see torch code)
14:59 OldCoder Jordach, Indeed :-)
14:59 OldCoder Jordach, He was annoyed
15:00 \n Can I set that for nodes?
15:00 PilzAdam yes
15:00 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1321
15:01 PilzAdam hmmm stange.... i pushed 2 commits to mobs repo but github doesnt update
15:02 PilzAdam know it updated
15:03 Jordach NekoGloop - wanna do a lets play
15:04 Jordach PilzAdam - thats because github has to update several databases
15:04 NekoGloop i have no mic but if you can wait until monday I'll have a mic
15:04 Jordach kewl
15:04 Jordach i use my usb xbox360 controller + headset = working mic
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15:05 NekoGloop although as for being able to play regularly, idk.
15:05 NekoGloop tuesday & saturday are not good days for me to do it.
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15:06 Jordach next sunday?
15:08 NekoGloop that will be the day BEFORE i get headphones xD
15:08 NekoGloop er...
15:08 NekoGloop not headphones, a mic
15:08 Jordach not this sunday
15:08 Jordach NEX
15:08 Jordach TT
15:08 NekoGloop oh sure
15:09 NekoGloop that will be perfect.
15:11 OldCoder Jordach wanted to know what happened to M13 PC. I've posted an edit for him. For anybody else who'd find this useful here is the link: http://pastebin.ca/2205582
15:12 NekoGloop too bad the worldedit gui doesnt work
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15:15 Jordach Calinou - y is your server slow
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15:15 Calinou because CPU
15:16 Jordach adding technic and mesecons was a bad idea
15:17 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/commit/0a795ffe5f687ae37319d6aa67f402b75b959b8b
15:17 Calinou no lag for me right now
15:17 Calinou Jordach: technic requires mesecons, and several players wanted it
15:17 Jordach the chunk updates seem really slow
15:17 Calinou i reduced server step to 0.1
15:18 Jordach sigh
15:18 Calinou PilzAdam: wont > won't
15:19 PilzAdam i found a nyan-cat here in IRC!
15:19 nyan-cat lol
15:19 * Jordach summonds VanessaE
15:20 PilzAdam Calinou, https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/commit/817ec5efaf1904275d5462a9ee4a6b329b58531c
15:21 OldCoder Jordach, I think he is AFK
15:21 OldCoder Calinou, Hi
15:22 Jordach [16:21:40] <OldCoder> Jordach, I think he is AFK "he" did you mean: "she"?
15:22 NekoGloop LOL
15:22 NekoGloop i will be making a solo let's play as well.
15:23 NekoGloop jordach can upload the dual let's plays. I will upload my solo ones.
15:23 Jordach sweet
15:23 Jordach i link to other channels
15:23 Jordach (if they play with me)
15:23 NekoGloop GloopTheMaster
15:23 NekoGloop it's my yt name
15:24 NekoGloop someone took GloopMaster already, which surprised me.
15:24 PilzAdam nobody will ever take PilzAdam
15:24 NekoGloop prolly not lol
15:25 PilzAdam hmm, can you copyright nicks?
15:25 NekoGloop only if you're famous as shit
15:25 PilzAdam my mods are good -> im famous
15:25 NekoGloop no i mean like internet-wide
15:25 NekoGloop not just mt
15:25 PilzAdam .-(
15:25 PilzAdam *:
15:25 Jordach my mod wool / colour bloocks -> im famous
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15:26 NekoGloop nope
15:26 NekoGloop why does trying to take a bag out of a slot in bags mod crash MT?
15:27 PilzAdam somone has a direct link to rat pic of MT?
15:27 NekoGloop get 0.3.1
15:27 FreeFull MT still comes with it AFAI
15:27 FreeFull AFAIK
15:27 NekoGloop yeah i think that as well
15:27 FreeFull You can still /give yourself default:rat
15:27 NekoGloop yup
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15:28 PilzAdam yea in legacy mod
15:28 NekoGloop i know
15:28 PilzAdam but i will copy it into my mod
15:28 OldCoder PilzAdam, you can probably trademark nicks
15:28 OldCoder Not copyright but trademark
15:29 OldCoder Jordach, yes. Vanessa is she. Excuse me.
15:29 PilzAdam next on battlefield 3: "You are killed by PilzAdam(tm)"
15:29 OldCoder Indeed
15:29 PilzAdam lol
15:29 OldCoder PilzAdam (tm) Brand Death
15:29 OldCoder Like Sanka Brand Coffee but that might be before your time
15:29 Jordach PilzAdam - love battlefield 3
15:29 PilzAdam +1
15:30 PilzAdam but on XBox
15:30 Jordach PilzAdam - gamertag?
15:30 PilzAdam http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/de/soldier/PilzAdam/stats/265755239/xbox/
15:30 * Jordach plays on xbox360
15:30 PilzAdam im PilzAdam
15:30 PilzAdam your nick?
15:30 PilzAdam or gamertag
15:31 FreeFull Actuallt, it's not in default, but it is there
15:31 FreeFull legacy:rat then
15:31 FreeFull Not legacy:rat
15:31 FreeFull Just rat works
15:31 Jordach XxJordachxX
15:32 Jordach i also play a lot of fps on 360, just nnot online
15:33 PilzAdam Jordach, friend request send
15:33 Jordach :D
15:34 * Jordach sees that PilzAdam does not use an ak-47
15:35 PilzAdam m249 saw FTW!!!
15:35 Jordach yep
15:35 Jordach i play battlefield on the pc
15:35 Jordach much better than console at times
15:36 Jordach esp. skyrim
15:36 Calinou lolbattlefield
15:36 Jordach ^ xonotic zealot
15:36 Calinou pwned jordach 30 to -3 WITH TUBA
15:36 Calinou tuba's a shit weapon
15:36 Calinou (fun though)
15:36 Jordach Calinou - first timer
15:36 Calinou I know :p
15:36 Jordach try me at call of duty
15:36 Calinou don't want to buy it
15:37 Calinou free gaming FTW :P
15:37 Jordach i use a sniper with an acog sight
15:37 Jordach NOT A SCOPE
15:37 PilzAdam +1 for sniper+acog
15:37 Jordach 21,837 kills
15:37 Jordach :D:D:D:D:D:D
15:38 Jordach PilzAdam the sniper i use is an insta kill, but bolt action
15:38 Jordach with extended mag
15:38 Jordach + acog
15:38 PilzAdam cod or bf?
15:38 Jordach cod
15:38 Jordach (me plays hardcore(
15:38 PilzAdam i dont like cod multiplayer
15:38 * Calinou updated to GIMP 2.8
15:39 Jordach ^ fuck gimp 2.8
15:39 Calinou new looks of the GUI (bars/selection) are nice
15:39 Calinou just get used to "export" 8)
15:39 Jordach 2.6.12
15:39 Jordach :D
15:39 Calinou and single window mode is the win
15:39 Jordach nope
15:39 Jordach i wanna move that box
15:39 Jordach i can
15:39 Calinou don't kill your alt and tab keys :(
15:39 Calinou poor keys
15:39 Jordach Calinou - never use em
15:40 Calinou i noticed, 2.8 has a new tool
15:40 Jordach unless task manager is needed
15:40 Jordach [16:39:57] <Calinou> i noticed, 2.8 has a new tool - backports ftw
15:41 Jordach wow
15:41 Jordach since monday i have had 22 views on scloud
15:43 OldCoder Jordach, I have GIMP 2.2 2.4 2.6 and 2.8. No reason to limit to one or the other.
15:45 PilzAdam should the rat have footstep sounds?
15:46 PilzAdam IMO no
15:46 OldCoder Little Rat Feet
15:46 OldCoder Soft and sinister
15:46 PilzAdam theres only 2 possibilities: true or false
15:46 OldCoder False
15:47 OldCoder Ratsteps would not sound like others
15:47 OldCoder <Calinou> don't kill your alt and tab keys :(
15:47 OldCoder Key Appreciation Day
15:48 * OldCoder praises his Alt and Tab keys
15:49 Calinou PilzAdam: false
15:49 Calinou of course 8)
15:49 Calinou OldCoder: 2.2? O_o
15:49 OldCoder Calinou, There is a good reason. Link to explain in a moment.
15:50 Jordach PilzAdam - accepted
15:50 NekoGloop i use windows key to force windows to lose focus
15:50 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/animdemo/
15:50 OldCoder Calinou, ^
15:50 PilzAdam Jordach, friend request?
15:50 PilzAdam im already off
15:50 Jordach yap.
15:50 OldCoder Calinou, GIMP-Perl seemed to break after 2.2. See link above for what I use it for.
15:51 Calinou perl
15:51 Calinou *rolls on floor, laughing*
15:51 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/animdemo/gpsanimdemo.gif
15:51 Jordach PilzAdam - i have second 360
15:51 Calinou nice domain you have there
15:51 OldCoder Laughing? Perl is tolerant. Amused by your laughter.
15:51 OldCoder I also have boldcoder.com
15:52 NekoGloop bags mod is really unstable -_-
15:52 Jordach aha
15:52 * Calinou slaps NekoGloop using a flower pot
15:52 Calinou HTML MOD FTW
15:52 NekoGloop ... wut
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15:55 NekoGloop now something more random: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPJUBQd-PNM
15:56 * PilzAdam doesnt open NekoGloop's link since his ears are broken
15:56 NekoGloop fine
15:56 * Calinou throws a grenade at PilzAdam
15:57 NekoGloop xD
15:57 * PilzAdam catches it and throw it bag
15:57 NekoGloop MC sucks. MC songs, on the other hand, can be awesome.
15:57 Calinou MC itself doesn't suck; the community does
15:57 NekoGloop true
15:57 Jordach ^ agreed
15:57 PilzAdam how many hearts was a cooked rat healing?
15:58 Calinou 3
15:58 NekoGloop apple-1
15:58 Exio java sucks anyway
15:58 NekoGloop or whatever
15:58 Calinou +1 Exio
15:58 PilzAdam -1 Exio
15:58 NekoGloop yes java sucks
15:58 NekoGloop java is made to be easy to use.
15:58 NekoGloop things like that tend to have a shitload of limits on what you can do.
15:59 Calinou HEY ILL LET YOU CODE WHILE URE ON DRUGS, BUT YOU MUST NOT MISS THE "PACKAGE ORG.ORG.ORG.ORG.ORG.COM.COM.COM.ASM.ASM.ASM.NETWORK.STUPID.SHIT.NAMES.JAVA.AND.THIS.IS.CASE.SENSITIVE.ALSO.TYPOS.ARE.FORBIDDEN.AND.UPPERCASE.IS.THE.WIN NET PRIVATE PUBLIC CLASS OF SHITTY CODE" DECLARATION
15:59 Calinou ^ java
15:59 Exio lol
15:59 NekoGloop lol
15:59 Calinou lol
15:59 Kray java is not "made to be easy to use"
15:59 Calinou high level is supposed to be easy to use
15:59 Calinou like lua
15:59 NekoGloop anyway i figured out what caused the bags crash
15:59 Calinou lua is easy to use
15:59 Jordach ^ WRONG
16:00 Jordach C++ IS EASY
16:00 Calinou no
16:00 Exio C++ vs LUA?
16:00 Kray Java is a very robust and reliable language
16:00 Calinou no garbage collection, "strong" types
16:00 Jordach Calinou - i got the basics to c++ in my first lesson
16:00 Calinou C++ and lua are not very comparable... luaJIT can be compared to java maybe
16:00 Calinou :trollface:
16:00 * Jordach kickbans Calinou
16:04 NekoGloop brb
16:07 PilzAdam finally: https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/commit/6f4d2bad6053b26adde987bc4bbe4f312a7cf85d
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16:11 PilzAdam oerkki only spawns in caves?
16:13 Jordach PilzAdam - yep
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16:15 Calinou PilzAdam: are you adding oerkki? cool :D
16:17 Calinou PilzAdam: I suggest adding optional debug lines in console so that you can know where mobs spawn. disabled by default
16:17 Calinou setting "DEBUG" to 1 would enable them, in init.lua
16:17 PilzAdam k
16:18 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/commit/c14f036893179ce38a6e2a2ed9dde84427c83585
16:18 leo_rockw PilzAdam: would it be a pain to make the "chance" variable be per mob?
16:18 PilzAdam i will do it
16:18 leo_rockw I'd like a few more stone mobs, for instance, but not as many sheep.
16:18 leo_rockw great =]
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16:19 Jordach T_A_N_K and NekoGloop joining at the same time
16:19 Calinou btw: I really like your mod, it's great
16:19 Jordach ARE THEY NOT THE SAME PERSON?
16:19 NekoGloop lol?
16:19 Calinou should be in default (but disableable with minetest.conf option)
16:19 NekoGloop which mod?
16:19 NekoGloop who's mod?
16:19 Calinou the mobs need new textures... "stone monsters" should have oerkki texture
16:19 leo_rockw simple mobs is awesome ^_^
16:19 Calinou NekoGloop: simplemobs
16:20 Calinou and dirt/sand monsters, something like oerkki too, but smaller and different color
16:20 NekoGloop ick
16:20 Calinou sheep need to be rarer too
16:20 T_A_N_K lol
16:20 NekoGloop simplemobs seems cool until it crashes
16:20 leo_rockw Calinou: I'm guessing that PilzAdam wouldn't mind that, but he'd need textures.
16:21 PilzAdam Calinou, i like the idea of "element mobs"
16:21 PilzAdam so the textures should fit into that
16:21 PilzAdam the current are more like "placeholder"
16:21 Jordach T_A_N_K - i see you installed my MC4MTV6 then
16:21 OldCoder Jordach, NekoGloop is a kitty and T_A_N_K appears to be an ass. Different species.
16:21 NekoGloop XD
16:21 Calinou PilzAdam: yep
16:21 nyan-cat hey people, what do you think about my new lamp mod http://imgur.com/a/rugeX
16:22 Calinou some other suggestions:
16:22 Calinou - rats should drop something ;)
16:22 nyan-cat colors need a little improvement, I did those in MS Paint >_>
16:22 T_A_N_K holy crap jordach, that sounds like a radio station, just say minecraft texture pack
16:22 nyan-cat (because of laziness)
16:22 Calinou - a tiny bit shorter attack ranges for mobs
16:22 Calinou it feels weird when they're 3 blocks below you and attacking you
16:22 Jordach nyan-cat WINDOWS 8
16:22 Jordach :o
16:22 nyan-cat yes Jordach  :P
16:22 nyan-cat release preview
16:23 nyan-cat you know how big hassle it was to get a proper MC-compatible driver on it, Jordach?
16:23 * Jordach kickbans anyone with windows 8 (nah joking)
16:23 nyan-cat since my card is not really supported anymore, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4000/5000 Series
16:23 Jordach its the windows ME / vista again
16:23 Calinou winblows 8 sucked, sucks and will suck
16:23 Jordach place bets on BSODS
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16:23 PilzAdam Calinou, https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/commit/c00426fcf3766a8f1405e17c273a69640fe25f01
16:23 NekoGloop i dont have 8 xD
16:24 nyan-cat the only thing that sucks in Windows 8 is, the Metro UI
16:24 NekoGloop I have the only good windows, which is XP
16:24 nyan-cat the other things like the new task manager etc., are nicei MO
16:24 T_A_N_K what operating system does m13 use?
16:24 nyan-cat * IMO
16:24 Jordach teamviewer
16:24 Jordach hmm what os only works on that?
16:24 Calinou teamviewer works on win/linux/mac..
16:24 Calinou ok thanks PilzAdam :D
16:25 * Jordach shall add upto 400 textures for my 64dots pack
16:25 nyan-cat Calinou: it works on Linux?
16:25 nyan-cat TIL
16:25 Calinou yes
16:25 Exio using wine...
16:25 Calinou yes, it is wine
16:25 Calinou wine + windows teamviewer actually. works for me!
16:25 nyan-cat oh
16:26 nyan-cat inb4 someone starts a Wine vs VirtualBox (vs VMWare [...]) wwar
16:26 nyan-cat * war
16:26 NekoGloop jordach: gloopores?
16:26 Jordach YES
16:26 NekoGloop nyan-cat:  Wine running a VirtualBox.
16:27 Jordach which is running in a virtual box
16:27 Jordach and wine is running a virtual box
16:27 Jordach virtualception
16:27 Exio lol
16:27 NekoGloop yup
16:27 Jordach hm
16:27 Jordach i will support
16:28 Jordach farming+
16:28 NekoGloop farming wouldnt be hard
16:28 NekoGloop the textures already look 8x8 already
16:28 Jordach gloopores, infinity tools, xdoors2. workbench, bonesmod
16:28 * NekoGloop flees
16:29 PilzAdam leo_rockw, https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/commit/09f86b4ac075fe1ba61156d50623f2d472090d94
16:29 Jordach tnt, snow biomes
16:29 Jordach junglegrass
16:29 Jordach conifers and diamonds mod (infinityporject)
16:30 NekoGloop snow biomes ftw
16:30 NekoGloop funny thing is that I'm currently in one
16:30 NekoGloop and lol papyrus likes to be in snow biomes
16:31 NekoGloop both usae high perlin, correct?
16:31 NekoGloop use*
16:31 * Jordach protests to such bull
16:31 leo_rockw PilzAdam: great!
16:32 leo_rockw =]
16:33 leo_rockw +1 to the snow biomes
16:34 NekoGloop snow biomes FTW
16:35 PilzAdam ive seperated the API and content: https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/commit/8929fda7e7fca6c86d2e0ec8ae40adee510eb092
16:35 Calinou PilzAdam: I like the oerkki :D they should die in light, though
16:35 Calinou two other suggestions:
16:35 Calinou - mobs die in lava/fire
16:36 PilzAdam they di
16:36 PilzAdam *do
16:36 Calinou ah, ok, didn't try
16:36 Calinou sorry :p
16:36 Calinou forgot the other one :p
16:36 PilzAdam why?
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16:36 Calinou dunno
16:36 Calinou ok, now making textures for misa pack for the mobs
16:37 PilzAdam can you also do new for me?
16:37 PilzAdam in the default res
16:38 PilzAdam the sheep has animal mod textures and my mobs have player textures
16:38 PilzAdam thats not very good
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16:47 NekoGloop testing...
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16:55 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/commit/5ec7ae8f2199d03aab00ab9282f54bbde747a375
16:56 PilzAdam can aonyone test this. Its seems that the dirt monster dies directly if it is in water
16:57 OldCoder nyan-cat is correct regarding Windows 8. They won't repeat the Vista fiasco soon. But I have no ****ing idea what they were thinking by trying to turn the desktop into a cell phone.
16:58 NekoGloop universal OS'
16:59 Calinou universal OS is just bad
16:59 Calinou it's quantity instead of quality
16:59 NekoGloop yup
16:59 Calinou when I'll buy a new computer (probably won't in a while, this computer is quite good anyway), I will buy it without OS
16:59 Calinou it will end up at the same price
16:59 Calinou but with a less half-assed os
17:00 Calinou windows 8 is 60 euros only now...
17:00 Calinou :|
17:00 NekoGloop lol
17:00 Calinou from what i've heard
17:00 Calinou better use a linux distro like lubuntu
17:02 * Calinou currently has 17 windows open
17:02 Calinou not really using GIMP's tabs... :p
17:03 NekoGloop XD
17:05 PilzAdam <PilzAdam> can aonyone test this. Its seems that the dirt monster dies directly if it is in water -> fixed: <PilzAdam> can aonyone test this. Its seems that the dirt monster dies directly if it is in water
17:05 PilzAdam oops
17:05 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/commit/7672041b1557c3214666261852d4d13ac30ef67e
17:05 NekoGloop XD
17:06 PilzAdam NekoGloop or anyone else with windows: can you compile the latest source on windows and check if the same errors occur when mobs are hitting you?
17:06 Calinou suggest: fall damage? probably not easy to code though :|
17:06 NekoGloop mobs didnt need to touch me.
17:06 NekoGloop i only needed to have one onscreen
17:06 Calinou PilzAdam: I use your mod in my virtualbox, which runs debian :3
17:06 Calinou compiling on windows is painful
17:07 PilzAdam i know
17:07 T_A_N_K this code is truly evil http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=izfsbYNt
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17:07 Calinou 10-20FPS :/
17:07 PilzAdam but i want know if its a bug in the win build
17:07 PilzAdam T_A_N_K, for i = 1, inv:get_size("main"), 1 do
17:07 Jordach T_A_N_K - i wont install testit
17:08 T_A_N_K okay both of you wtf are you guys talking aboot
17:08 NekoGloop Calinou: my singleplayer let's play will use moreblocks, stairsplus, and obviously moreores.
17:08 Calinou cool :D
17:09 NekoGloop stairsplus most prominently
17:09 PilzAdam T_A_N_K, im talking about line 5
17:09 NekoGloop i shall make my roofs awesomer with stairsplus :3
17:09 T_A_N_K what about it?
17:09 PilzAdam it should be: for i = 1, inv:get_size("main"), 1 do
17:09 PilzAdam and not for i = 1, 32, 1 do
17:10 T_A_N_K oh okay, let me test that
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17:10 NekoGloop Calinou: I cant make cactuschecker stairs? ;_;
17:11 T_A_N_K thanks :)
17:11 Calinou no *checker stairs/slabs for now, might add them later
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17:11 Calinou not now 8) busy, or do it yourself
17:11 Calinou feel free to send pull requests on github
17:11 NekoGloop lol
17:11 Calinou http://github.com/calinou/minetest_mods
17:11 NekoGloop whatever
17:12 NekoGloop also make stairsplus allow other mods to directly call the function
17:12 PilzAdam T_A_N_K, also drop the other lists ("craft" and "craft_result" i think)
17:12 Calinou NekoGloop: how? :P
17:12 NekoGloop um...
17:14 T_A_N_K nah there's really nothing else i can remove from this xD
17:15 PilzAdam Calinou, what about textures for my mod? you want to do it?
17:15 Calinou no, for misa's pack
17:15 Calinou these are HD and wouldn't fit as default anyway
17:16 PilzAdam i asked you if you (or anyone else here) could do it in default res
17:16 PilzAdam because my drawing skills are 0.1 of 100
17:17 Jordach PilzAdam - im pretty sure 21,000 people agree with your kills and drawing skill
17:18 OldCoder PilzAdam, they will improve over time
17:18 Jordach see mine
17:18 PilzAdam i realy dont know how to start to draw a sheep
17:19 PilzAdam this was my attempt: https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/blob/master/textures/mobs_sheep_old.png
17:19 Jordach NOOO!!!!!!!!!! gimp crashed. :(
17:19 * Calinou trying to make sheep texture for misa's pack: "I don't want to play this game anymore..."
17:19 Calinou :|
17:19 Calinou my /drawing/ skills suck, my gimping skills are decent
17:19 Jordach excuse me
17:19 NekoGloop XD
17:20 Calinou never use PS
17:20 Calinou never used*
17:20 Jordach am i and cisoun the only capable drawers here besides VanessaE
17:20 NekoGloop prolly
17:20 cisoun dat gimp
17:21 * Jordach turns on the hard-dance
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17:22 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg4vgTGST2o
17:22 Jordach gloopores completion: 28%
17:22 NekoGloop all you really need is the base textures and recolor each time
17:23 Jordach no.
17:23 Jordach i do them from the original texture color.
17:23 NekoGloop lol
17:23 Jordach not my own
17:23 Jordach reminds me to change the dirt colour to a more brown
17:23 NekoGloop then you're using basic colors that are found in game maker paint's listing.
17:23 Jordach and dirt to a more green
17:24 Jordach NekoGloop - i use the gimp to make them
17:24 NekoGloop hah
17:24 NekoGloop kalite, for example, uses base reds.
17:25 T_A_N_K calinou i saw you were making a sheep texture
17:25 T_A_N_K look at ovo's rustic texture pack
17:25 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=43622#p43622
17:25 T_A_N_K it's quite amazing
17:26 Calinou do like nyan-cat
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17:26 Calinou make textures with mspaint
17:26 Calinou :)
17:26 nyan-cat lol
17:26 NekoGloop game maker paint is mspaint+
17:27 T_A_N_K http://youtu.be/ZNmdLuOHK6k
17:27 T_A_N_K that would devistate a player lol
17:28 Jordach gloopores 12% complete
17:28 Jordach s/12/42
17:29 NekoGloop lol
17:30 Jordach 60% complete
17:30 Calinou TIL clementine's tray icon "empties" as a song is played
17:31 Calinou (some cross-platform opensource music player)
17:31 Calinou [totally unrelated to MT]
17:32 Exio s/some/the best/
17:32 NekoGloop s/what/ever
17:33 nyan-cat I found a lot of inconsistency in item naming in default mods
17:33 nyan-cat and a typo
17:33 nyan-cat "Emtpy bucket"
17:33 NekoGloop i thought that looked wrong
17:33 Jordach gloop ores 87% complete
17:33 nyan-cat the inconsistency I'm talking about is, e.g., "Cooked rat", "Dark green dye" vs. "Steel Axe", "Coal Lump" etc.
17:33 NekoGloop sounds awesome
17:34 NekoGloop dyes and legacy are for old support
17:34 NekoGloop therefore dont get updated
17:35 * VanessaE peeks in -- someone mention dyes?
17:35 VanessaE ;)
17:35 NekoGloop not yours
17:35 NekoGloop the default one
17:36 PilzAdam VanessaE, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=43622#p43622
17:36 NekoGloop that old thing that shouldnt be supported anymore
17:36 VanessaE brbvg
17:36 VanessaE brb
17:37 nyan-cat TIL MT has sugar canes
17:37 Jordach already does
17:37 Jordach papyrus
17:37 Jordach its the same thing
17:38 NekoGloop so we have sugar paper? ;)
17:40 Jordach essentially yes
17:40 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/my_history?feature=mh_lolz dat url xD
17:42 Jordach muahahaha
17:42 Jordach xdoors2 supported
17:43 NekoGloop cool
17:43 T_A_N_K would it be possible to detect an entity without editing the entity's file?
17:43 NekoGloop yes
17:44 NekoGloop cactusmod/mesecons
17:44 T_A_N_K can i have a link to your cactus mod?
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17:45 NekoGloop forums
17:45 NekoGloop it will take just as long, if not longer, for me to find it.
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17:45 AnalRipper hellooooosers!!!!!
17:45 NekoGloop ... -_-
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17:46 NekoGloop yeah that's what i though.
17:46 NekoGloop thought*
17:49 NekoGloop i dont know why he even tries anymore.
17:50 VanessaE bye bye.
17:50 NekoGloop yup
17:51 Jordach snow mod supported
17:51 NekoGloop sweet
17:52 Jordach cisoun's conifers mod support incoming
17:52 NekoGloop sweet
17:52 cisoun dafuq
17:52 VanessaE already added that to HDX :-)
17:53 cisoun my mod is not working very well, I have to fix the generation
17:53 cisoun but works though
17:53 NekoGloop it worked at one point?
17:53 sfan5 :D
17:53 cisoun actually it works pretty good in 0.4.2
17:54 cisoun maybe not the version which is in the forum
17:54 T_A_N_K that was landmine?
17:54 T_A_N_K are there 2 landmines?
17:54 cisoun I think I changed some stuff since
17:54 VanessaE T_A_N_K: he has a bunch of IP's by virtue of using HideMyAss or some other proxy
17:55 Jordach conifers supported
17:56 Jordach next up: junglegrass mod
17:56 VanessaE \o/
17:56 sfan5 :D
17:56 NekoGloop op party? :D
17:56 NekoGloop too bad I'm not op. :P
17:59 Jordach junglegrass mod suported
17:59 Jordach +p
17:59 VanessaE \:D/
17:59 Jordach time for plizadam's TNT MOD
18:00 NekoGloop doesnt it use default tnt textrues
18:00 Jordach nope
18:00 Jordach it has animation
18:01 PilzAdam yay animation
18:02 T_A_N_K someone should make tnt, when you hit it, it grows arms and legs, and walk over to the player, and throw them, then rip a tree out of the ground, which turns into an entity, then throw it at the player and kill them
18:02 T_A_N_K then put the tree back down, which turns it back into nodes, and have the tnt's arms and legs go back into it and have it turn back into a node
18:02 T_A_N_K lol
18:02 Jordach PilzAdam - I DO NO ANIMATION
18:03 NekoGloop nyan
18:03 Jordach if gunpowder is a entity
18:03 Jordach then i may have drew it wrong
18:03 NekoGloop minetest: fps=0
18:04 NekoGloop i think it's not running ^^"
18:04 NekoGloop Oh there we go. "Some Exception: "Access violation""
18:07 NekoGloop wtf XD
18:07 NekoGloop "ERROR[main]: Something failed"
18:07 T_A_N_K would it be possible to do: obj:setvelocity({x=x, y=y, z=z}) where player is obj?
18:07 NekoGloop prolly not
18:07 Calinou new version of misa's pack is out!
18:07 Calinou simplemobs support! locked sign/locked furnace too
18:07 PilzAdam T_A_N_K, no
18:08 Calinou PilzAdam: I now remember my second suggestion... make mobs "idle" sometimes, non-moving for a few seconds
18:08 Calinou like they did in 0.3 ;)
18:08 Calinou pretty sure this is possible without increasing CPU usage too much
18:09 PilzAdam they do
18:09 PilzAdam see state = "stand"
18:09 Jordach TNT MOD SUPPORTED!
18:10 NekoGloop COOL
18:10 NekoGloop CAPS LOCK MUCH?
18:11 * VanessaE turns off Jordach's caps lock and rips the key out
18:11 Jordach you forgot about shift
18:12 NekoGloop xD
18:12 Jordach and the on screen keyboard
18:12 * NekoGloop deletes Jordach's onscreen keyboard and removes shift key as well
18:12 Jordach you cant
18:12 Jordach system32
18:12 PilzAdam so in future it will be jordach?
18:12 Jordach nope.
18:13 * VanessaE puts duct tape on the screen over the offending keys
18:13 Jordach PS/2 KEYBOARD!
18:13 Jordach does anyone still use those?
18:13 Jordach i know i do
18:13 PilzAdam anyone knows where the falling damage calculation is in the c++ code?
18:13 BartoCH i have an old one that i never use somewhere
18:14 NekoGloop i'm using one currently
18:16 NekoGloop is it possible to map the inventory key to middle mouse button?
18:16 Jordach neko
18:16 Jordach probably
18:16 Jordach also
18:16 Jordach infinity tools supported
18:16 NekoGloop sweet
18:17 NekoGloop what would the constant for middle mouse key be?
18:17 Jordach three mods left to go: farming+, diamonds (infinityproject) and bones mod
18:20 Jordach bones mod completed
18:21 Jordach mod in progress: diamonds
18:21 Jordach VanessaE - i get c++ much more than LUA
18:22 NekoGloop was F10 fixed?
18:23 VanessaE NekoGloop: not that I know about
18:24 NekoGloop well i just did it 6 times
18:24 NekoGloop no crashes
18:24 NekoGloop mt has to lose focus for the window to go up properly though
18:25 VanessaE it apparently isn't as crashy in windows, calinou has said before
18:25 VanessaE irrlicht is just buggy :-/
18:25 NekoGloop lol
18:26 Jordach VanessaE - i think its X Window Server being the actual cause
18:27 VanessaE Jordach: naw, c55 traced the crash to somewhere inside irrlicht
18:27 Jordach really?
18:27 VanessaE but couldn't find the cause, it's "deep inside" somewhere
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18:31 NekoGloop Meow~
18:32 Jordach diamonds mod supported
18:32 Jordach cmon
18:32 Jordach suggest me mods
18:32 Jordach time for 64dots2.0
18:33 thexyz signs mod
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18:33 NekoGloop mesecons
18:33 NekoGloop technic
18:33 NekoGloop gloopblocks
18:33 VanessaE jeija old buddy old pal :-)
18:33 NekoGloop toolsizes
18:34 VanessaE Jordach: homedecor of course :-)
18:34 Jordach LATER
18:34 NekoGloop gloopblocks
18:35 NekoGloop btw: still want decent default-style textures for evil stuff
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18:39 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/commit/eb35d7ffea128ea42f15ee843fc7145b7c7768d5
18:39 VanessaE hey hey RBA
18:42 RealBadAngel hey hey
18:43 PilzAdam hey hey
18:43 NekoGloop hey hey.... hey?
18:44 PilzAdam VanessaE, RealBadAngel, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3133
18:51 VanessaE PilzAdam: I have no preference as yet.
18:51 PilzAdam :-(
18:52 VanessaE except that I don't like hostile mobs.
18:52 PilzAdam no german wikipedian wants to delete the german wikipedia article
18:53 VanessaE so why is the german one good enough to keep but not the english one?
18:53 PilzAdam the german wikipedians are better
18:53 NekoGloop because it's german
18:53 PilzAdam Germany FTW!!!
18:53 PilzAdam (im not a nazi)
18:53 VanessaE oh well, the article still exists in Rubenwardy's namespace.
18:54 PilzAdam but i cant link it from the german version
18:54 VanessaE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rubenwardy/Minetest
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18:54 PilzAdam a link to a user as english version??
18:54 PilzAdam Hallo iqualfragile
18:55 PilzAdam iqualfragile, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3133
18:55 iqualfragile Hallo Adam
18:55 VanessaE PilzAdam: well, link to it as an "external" link
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18:55 VanessaE dammit
18:55 PilzAdam wb
18:55 VanessaE wrong focus again
18:55 VanessaE focus follows mouse, not eyes.
18:55 PilzAdam alt + f4?
18:55 VanessaE ctrl-w
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18:56 PilzAdam iqualfragile, simple mobs wurde extrem gupdated
18:56 iqualfragile seit heut um 12?
18:57 PilzAdam jup
18:57 iqualfragile well, then
18:57 PilzAdam 13 commits
18:57 T_A_N_K KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
18:57 PilzAdam ??
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18:58 NekoGloop ... wut.
18:58 NekoGloop "@wikipedia" nice hostname.
18:59 PilzAdam T_A_N_K, are you all right?
18:59 T_A_N_K startrek?
18:59 PilzAdam no
19:00 T_A_N_K damn
19:00 PilzAdam this is #minetest and not #startrek
19:00 PilzAdam so MEEEEEEEESSSSSEEEEEEEE
19:00 NekoGloop XD
19:00 iqualfragile well, im gona vote when i have compared these two again in their newest version
19:00 Jordach there
19:01 * PilzAdam wants one too
19:01 NekoGloop only forum mods
19:01 iqualfragile -.-
19:01 NekoGloop and people with the mese to afford it.
19:01 Jordach :D
19:01 iqualfragile now i know why mob-framework did just more or less die
19:02 Jordach NekoGloop - i have been mining mese since october last year, in fact 11 months ago
19:02 NekoGloop lol
19:02 Jordach my texture pack update will go live in 2 minutes
19:05 Exio PilzAdam: the diff between monsters and animals are the "attack state" and the on_rightclick function?
19:05 Exio the only*
19:05 PilzAdam some other things (see README.txt)
19:06 iqualfragile pilzadam: looking at https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/commit/e4f54d11e68c3b379d2a1c07a86f6ea3b5644eed i think you have many repeating lines of code and should refractor
19:07 PilzAdam the code is good at the current state
19:07 PilzAdam well structured
19:08 Exio PilzAdam: some options only used on attack light resistance, and armor, no?
19:08 PilzAdam (okay theres not a single comment but i understand it without comments)
19:08 iqualfragile yeah, thats no problem
19:08 iqualfragile its lua after all
19:09 VanessaE PilzAdam: I can say this though:  Sapier's mod is more complex and known to be slower than yours.  if either makes it to minetest_game, yours.
19:09 VanessaE and that's without having used either one extensively.
19:09 PilzAdam Exio, heres the difference between animals and monsters: https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/blob/master/README.txt#L60
19:09 VanessaE Jeija's slimes should also, they're cute :-)
19:09 PilzAdam but MC cpoied
19:09 PilzAdam *copied
19:09 VanessaE not really.
19:09 VanessaE those textures are mine.  hand-drawn entirely.
19:10 * Jordach tries drawing them
19:10 NekoGloop mc slimes are also aggresive
19:10 * Jordach does a better job
19:10 VanessaE yes
19:10 Exio ok, thanks
19:10 PilzAdam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK-iJTrwg2I
19:10 VanessaE jeija's slimes are docile and they give mesecons glue when killed
19:10 PilzAdam but the main idea (slimes) is from MC
19:11 NekoGloop slimes come from dragon quest
19:11 NekoGloop end of story
19:11 jin_xi slime mold
19:11 VanessaE jeez talk about a ton of them (the video)
19:12 PilzAdam gtg
19:12 PilzAdam you can add mob wishes to issues in my mob repo
19:12 PilzAdam bye
19:16 VanessaE oh ho ho ho
19:17 VanessaE "Patent Troll Goes After Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, Yahoo, IBM, Others:  A company named PersonalWeb Technologies has decided to sue a host of heavy players in the tech industry, including Apple, Facebook, [...].  The company is also targeting GitHub, but seems to have accidentally sued Rackspace — GitHub's host — instead."
19:17 NakedFury that happens
19:17 VanessaE software patents should be outright illegal
19:17 NakedFury they never sue at the start, they wait years until they are filthy rich then sue
19:17 NakedFury yeah
19:17 NakedFury that too
19:20 donaldr3 http://endsoftpatents.org/
19:21 VanessaE +1
19:27 NekoGloop I'm making a skyblock map
19:28 iqualfragile again?
19:28 NekoGloop ?
19:29 NekoGloop actually...
19:29 NekoGloop how do i clear a world of all nodes?
19:30 Exio using tnt!
19:30 NekoGloop take too long
19:30 Exio :P
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19:31 NekoGloop *deletes map.sqlite*
19:31 NekoGloop there we go :3
19:39 Jordach NekoGloop - that will only regenerate the worl
19:39 Jordach +D
19:39 NekoGloop nope
19:39 NekoGloop it worked
19:39 NekoGloop dammit why are you right
19:41 VanessaE bbl
19:42 NekoGloop I'll be back when this worldedit is done
19:42 nyan-cat worldedit? lol
19:42 nyan-cat MC?
19:43 NekoGloop no
19:43 T_A_N_K what is thexyz's special doors called?
19:43 NekoGloop xdoors2
19:44 thexyz yep
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19:49 M13 hey
19:49 NekoGloop afternoon
19:49 M13 celeron
19:49 M13 is he here
19:49 NekoGloop hm... i'd say no.
19:50 M13 ok
19:50 M13 What other OS's Run minetest?
19:50 M13 does LYWM
19:50 NekoGloop everything but OS X
19:50 M13 yes OS X does
19:50 T_A_N_K m13 what os were you on when you got hacked?
19:50 M13 Ubuntu
19:51 T_A_N_K did you happen to toy with your firewall?
19:51 M13 no
19:51 M13 wait yea
19:51 M13 i blocked his subnets
19:52 M13 sfan
19:52 M13 you here
19:52 T_A_N_K maybe, you _shouldn't_ run a server? and wait a little while before you do?
19:52 NekoGloop he's not just running a single server
19:52 M13 i am
19:52 NekoGloop oh ok
19:52 M13 is ther a server i could be op on?
19:53 T_A_N_K maybe you should ____STOP_____ them
19:53 T_A_N_K lol
19:53 M13 i did
19:54 UbuntuNerd yes
19:54 UbuntuNerd im  UbuntuNerd
19:55 NekoGloop we knew
19:55 T_A_N_K amazing
19:58 UbuntuNerd AMAZING
19:58 MiJyn lol
20:03 sfan5 UbuntuNerd: i'm there
20:03 sfan5 the X Server just decided to ummm... crash
20:04 iqualfragile thexyz: whats your github?
20:04 sfan5 UbuntuNerd: ping
20:04 thexyz github.com/xyzz
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20:05 iqualfragile thanks
20:05 NekoGloop damn this pun stops bots
20:05 iqualfragile oooh, you were the guy with the one repos to rule them all!
20:06 LAD joined #minetest
20:08 MiJyn hi LandMine
20:08 LAD im not
20:08 LAD i am no LM
20:08 LAD hes a dick
20:08 Jordach i just found a cave with about 400 ores (like a sea cave, bar the water)
20:09 Jordach ill post screenshots later
20:09 sfan5 LAD is not LandMine
20:09 Jordach night all - you blocky nerds
20:09 Jordach (joking)
20:09 LAD thnx sfan5
20:09 NekoGloop using gloopores moresores and any other ores mod makes caves be freakin overpopulated
20:09 UbuntuNerd sfan
20:09 UbuntuNerd PM
20:09 NekoGloop gloopores and moreores alone however arent THAT bad xD
20:10 MiJyn ok
20:10 iqualfragile jeah, moreores alone arent that bad
20:10 MiJyn * LAD is now known as LandMine
20:10 MiJyn * LAD (bd908496@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.144.132.150) has joined #minetest-m13
20:10 MiJyn I just saw this
20:10 LAD ohhh
20:10 MiJyn I was suspicious
20:10 MiJyn but yeah
20:10 LAD he came on as me yesterday'
20:10 MiJyn he does that a lot
20:10 NekoGloop you havent tried latest gloopores
20:10 MiJyn of course, you could still be him
20:10 LAD oldcoder is telling me know
20:11 MiJyn but you could also not be
20:11 NekoGloop LAD: no that was me, we were testing the security hole.
20:11 sfan5 stefan@stefan-PC:~$ dig bas5-hamilton14-1096762987.dsl.bell.ca
20:11 thexyz register your nickname
20:11 sfan5 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
20:11 sfan5 bas5-hamilton14-1096762987.dsl.bell.ca.86283 IN A 65.95.70.107
20:11 NekoGloop thexyz: doesnt work
20:11 thexyz why?
20:11 NekoGloop because freenode is flawed
20:11 OldCoder Hi
20:11 NekoGloop registering a nick only alerts someone when they use it.
20:11 OldCoder People: Explanation
20:12 OldCoder LAD was LandMine twice yesterday. LandMine became LAD to...
20:12 OldCoder enter another room that was invite only. Took advantage of a loophole.
20:12 OldCoder LandMine was also Octupus a few minutes ago.
20:12 OldCoder Adult who pretends to be kids to get the other kids' personal information.
20:12 OldCoder Classy.
20:12 OldCoder
20:12 OldCoder This particular LAD
20:12 LAD XD dont know y thou
20:13 LAD actuly i do
20:13 OldCoder has just entered the other room with enhanced security
20:13 OldCoder LAD, explain
20:13 LAD i just thout of this know XD
20:13 OldCoder So he is probably LAD
20:13 OldCoder brb phone
20:13 OldCoder Thought of what?
20:13 LAD kk
20:13 OldCoder brb phone
20:13 MiJyn <OldCoder> has just entered the other room with enhanced security
20:13 iqualfragile neko: why? have you done as exerybody recomended you?
20:13 MiJyn wait
20:13 LAD y he talks to me
20:13 OldCoder Explain
20:13 OldCoder LandMine?
20:13 MiJyn how can you have a room with enhanced security?
20:13 NekoGloop iqual: i toned down the spawning of normal ores a lot
20:14 NekoGloop alatro isnt that different; this is due to it only being aboy 0Y, i left it as it is.
20:14 OldCoder Back
20:14 NekoGloop above*
20:14 LAD i think couse i was his only freind for a few weeks he still likes me becouse wen he griefed m13 server he helped me out with a project first and my stuff was not griefed in the attake
20:14 OldCoder
20:14 sfan5 ​
20:14 LAD
20:14 OldCoder All right
20:14 LAD maby just a thing of thought
20:15 OldCoder Anyway this appears to be LAD. But it is getting kind of tiring dealing with LandMine.
20:15 OldCoder Seriously
20:15 OldCoder WTF
20:15 NekoGloop Agreed.
20:15 LAD yea
20:15 OldCoder We have had this discussion
20:15 OldCoder People say "No more drama"
20:15 LAD XD
20:15 OldCoder As thought it is REDACTED *my* fault
20:15 OldCoder So, you know what...
20:15 LAD wsrry that XD was not ment for this
20:15 OldCoder I have real life business.
20:15 OldCoder LAD yes
20:15 OldCoder It's o.k.
20:15 T_A_N_K how the hell did sapier turn a nodebox into an entity?!
20:15 LAD that was ment for a hamachi chat im on
20:16 LAD lol srry
20:16 NekoGloop sapier: falling_node in default does this
20:16 OldCoder BTW Tell T_A_N_K I don't know what bee flew up his ass and I don't particular give a **** if he's blocked me
20:16 OldCoder The rest of me
20:16 NekoGloop re: gloopblocks falling gravel slopes/slabs
20:16 T_A_N_K oh wow
20:16 OldCoder Gather what LandMine information you gave
20:16 OldCoder RealBadAngel may assist you
20:16 OldCoder I am not really going to run this by myself
20:17 LAD is Zero a real person??
20:17 OldCoder If you want assistance page me
20:17 OldCoder ttyl
20:17 OldCoder LAD If M13 comes back tell him I'll help him in a little while
20:17 T_A_N_K so you can set a nodebox to a freakin entity?
20:17 LAD kk
20:17 sfan5 ye
20:17 NekoGloop tank: apparently
20:17 T_A_N_K THATS CRAZY
20:17 T_A_N_K time to make some INSANE mobs
20:17 sfan5 NO THATS A FEATURE
20:18 MiJyn T_A_N_K, wait for my mobbing API :)
20:18 MiJyn it'll be even easier!
20:18 iqualfragile yaay, i cant wait to start mobbing!
20:19 T_A_N_K yay
20:19 MiJyn :DD
20:19 T_A_N_K i'm trying to combine pilzadams mob ai with the way that sapier turned nodes into mobs
20:20 * OldCoder will be back later
20:20 iqualfragile not a bad idea
20:20 T_A_N_K if i can do that, then we'll have cool mob shapes, and a low-cpu smart api
20:20 T_A_N_K ai*
20:20 * OldCoder is all in favor of less drama and more chill
20:20 iqualfragile but i think it would be better to improve sapiers mob-api
20:21 NekoGloop I'm chillin' here.
20:21 MiJyn T_A_N_K, is it ok if you wait until I'm done and then build your API from that?
20:21 T_A_N_K sapiers mob api is too complex, and a little sluggish
20:21 NekoGloop no ports open to the internet means his methods are useless.
20:21 T_A_N_K nekogloob what?
20:21 T_A_N_K and mijyn what api?
20:21 MiJyn T_A_N_K, my mobbing one!
20:21 NekoGloop I'm talking to OldCoder, so go figure it makes no sense to you
20:23 LAD i think LM is Zero
20:23 LAD any 1 els
20:23 MiJyn Zero?
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20:24 LAD idk theres bin a griefing at redcrabs server and Zero was LM on m13 server
20:24 LAD and he was on
20:24 leo_rockway joined #minetest
20:24 LAD and still is
20:24 LAD he was by him self i think in this aera
20:24 LAD so idk
20:26 LAD i want to saiy GTFO LM but i dont know if Zero is LM
20:27 sfan5 theres nobody with the nickname Zero
20:27 Zero Now there is!
20:27 Zero :P
20:28 NekoGloop xD
20:28 sfan5 :/
20:28 MiJyn xD
20:28 MiJyn can anyone find LM?
20:28 sfan5 for e
20:29 sfan5 ...
20:29 MiJyn ?
20:29 sfan5 for nick in get_channel("#minetest").nicklist() do
20:29 sfan5 [insert  random code here]
20:29 sfan5 end
20:30 sfan5 we need a bot for that
20:30 sfan5 can you write one?
20:30 MiJyn what do you want it to do?
20:30 MiJyn I can
20:31 sfan5 idea: if is_landmine then
20:31 sfan5 irc.send("LandMine detected: " + nick)
20:31 MiJyn how do we know if it's landmine?
20:31 sfan5 end
20:31 sfan5 MiJyn: resolve ip
20:32 MiJyn how do you do that in ruby?
20:32 iqualfragile python: os.execute("nslookup | some cut stuffs")
20:33 sfan5 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=resolve+hostname+ruby
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20:35 MiJyn and what's his host?
20:38 iqualfragile does sapier have github?
20:41 NekoGloop prolly not
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20:48 iqualfragile http://www.humblebundle.com/
20:52 NekoGloop meow?
20:53 iqualfragile go and buy
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20:58 thexyz average linux > all others
20:58 thexyz as usual
20:58 thexyz then why do the fuck they make games for mac and not for linux
20:59 Uberi beats me
20:59 NekoGloop because mac is horrible
20:59 Uberi humble bundle 6 is out!
21:00 NekoGloop we noticed
21:00 NekoGloop [16:48] <iqualfragile> http://www.humblebundle.com/
21:00 Kray because mac has much larger userbase
21:00 iqualfragile go and buy NOW!
21:01 NekoGloop uh, no.
21:01 T_A_N_K BECAUSE OF MONEY $$$$
21:01 NakedFury because if you got a mac you got cash, cash that can buy the games
21:01 NekoGloop to both of you.
21:01 thexyz Kray: not for humblebundle
21:01 NakedFury if you got linux then 100% they thinks its because its free
21:01 T_A_N_K the only reason games are coming out for linux is because the research that steam did on the humble bundle shows linux users PAY MORE
21:01 Uberi Shatter looks awesome
21:02 thexyz T_A_N_K: yes, linux users want to pay
21:02 Kray linux users pay more because they don't usually pay anything, or because they specifically want to show "look, I'm a Linux user and I FUCKING PAY"
21:02 T_A_N_K EXACTLY!
21:02 thexyz but linux users also want to pay for good games
21:02 NekoGloop how about this: all OSs suck.
21:02 T_A_N_K exactly, now minecraft was the first example of this
21:02 thexyz any good games released after 2006?
21:03 Kray that's actually something that will drop down if it ever gets daily
21:03 Uberi thexyz: every try LIMBO?
21:03 T_A_N_K and steam was like, OH SHIT, look!
21:03 T_A_N_K we can do this too!
21:03 Uberi I think it's pretty great
21:03 T_A_N_K hence steam for linux
21:03 Uberi it was in the last Humble Bundle, IIRC
21:03 Kray but distributing native stuff to linux systems is crap anyway
21:03 Kray do it so that it works well under wine and your all ok
21:04 Kray *you're
21:04 T_A_N_K i wouldn't be suprised if eve came or even startrek online eventually came to linux
21:04 Kray not native
21:04 Uberi I thought eve already had a linux client?
21:04 Kray eve used to have a client that used cedega
21:05 iqualfragile the one before the last one
21:05 iqualfragile the last one was something androidish
21:05 Kray but everyone used the windows client with wine anyway
21:05 T_A_N_K that sucks
21:05 T_A_N_K eve doesn't even work in wine anymore
21:05 Kray it does
21:06 Kray I'm right now running 3 eve clients with wine
21:06 T_A_N_K oh, i tried it, it gave me a lot of font issues
21:06 Uberi you might need to tweak stuff a bit
21:06 T_A_N_K font issue: no fonts at all
21:06 Uberi and by a bit, I mean a lot
21:06 T_A_N_K i did, then it crashed lol, so i gave up
21:06 thexyz Uberi: nope
21:07 T_A_N_K i think it was an issue with wine emulating video or whatever
21:07 Uberi ah well
21:07 T_A_N_K hmm.. this was with wine 1.1 maybe 1.5 will be better :D
21:08 T_A_N_K wtf http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&amp;iId=24066
21:09 iqualfragile WTF?
21:09 thexyz T_A_N_K: what's unclear here? minecraft = garbage
21:09 T_A_N_K no, minecraft has a native linux client
21:09 NekoGloop yup xD
21:09 T_A_N_K why is it even in wine lol
21:10 thexyz because why not?
21:10 NekoGloop look at the MC version number
21:10 T_A_N_K because racism.
21:10 NekoGloop at that time linux ver. was nonexistant
21:10 NekoGloop or in unreleased beta, one of the two.
21:11 iqualfragile nope, i have played exactly that version on linux
21:11 NekoGloop with a reverter?
21:11 iqualfragile with java
21:12 NekoGloop i mean, did you revert minecraft.jar to that version.
21:12 iqualfragile no, that was not too long ago
21:13 NekoGloop i dont know what part of this you arent getting.
21:13 NekoGloop did you download minecraft.jar at that version?
21:13 T_A_N_K yes i believe so
21:13 T_A_N_K i could do that all the way back in 1.5 beta i believe
21:13 T_A_N_K so that's what i don't get
21:13 NekoGloop ah i see
21:13 T_A_N_K why run a native program in wine lol
21:14 NekoGloop sorry, i never cared to look a linux shit 8)
21:14 iqualfragile nekogloop: that was just the version wich was up to date 3/4 year ago
21:14 NekoGloop at*
21:14 NekoGloop "just" "3/4" dafuq?
21:14 NekoGloop that makes no sense
21:15 iqualfragile about 9 months ago that version was up to date
21:19 OldCoder Regarding the technical question above: LM uses multiple nicks, the web gateway, and multiple VPNs. The best way to spot him won't be that. It will be to look at yourselves. He masquerades as you. If an IP address changes it may be him.
21:19 OldCoder He was LAD twice yesterday and Octupus today. I think he tried to log on as me last night.
21:20 Uberi or just look for the guy who swears excessively and irritates others?
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21:24 LAD yea that works also
21:28 NakedFury can you use registered names? like OldCoder?
21:30 NekoGloop anyone can from any irc
21:30 NekoGloop registered nicks are only registered; not protected
21:34 pskosinski But noone not knowing pass can identify
21:34 pskosinski So /msg nickserv info nick
21:34 pskosinski OR just whois
21:35 NekoGloop that's unneccessary
21:36 pskosinski ?
21:36 LandMine left #minetest
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21:36 NekoGloop oops
21:36 NekoGloop it banned me xD
21:36 NekoGloop well that example was fail but you get the idea
21:37 pskosinski No
21:37 NekoGloop change nick into any registered nick (that isnt landmine xD)
21:43 pskosinski ...?
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21:45 leo_rockway now that there are mobs with simplemobs... flowing water o.o
21:45 NekoGloop i said NOT landmine.
21:45 NekoGloop leo_rockway: no
21:45 leo_rockway I think that's pretty much all I need
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21:45 leo_rockway NekoGloop: =[
21:45 pskosinski joined #minetest
21:45 pskosinski Meh, I didn't know about it
21:46 NekoGloop yeah he be banned
21:46 iqualfragile leo_rockway: i might take a look at that in about 3 weeks time
21:48 leo_rockway iqualfragile: neat =]
21:51 OldCoder Registered names are useful for invite-only rooms if the security is set up properly.
21:52 T_A_N_K realtest is f***ing awesome
21:52 iqualfragile realtest
21:52 NekoGloop meh
21:52 iqualfragile what is this
21:52 thexyz T_A_N_K: yes, it is
21:52 NekoGloop no use for desert biomes == not worth my time
21:53 T_A_N_K :D honestly, i can say i'm actually having more fun then tekkit in minecraft
21:53 Uberi it's good for building, NekoGloop
21:53 Uberi I prefer its flat plains for huge Mesecons stuff
21:54 NekoGloop except you cant get mese ^^"
21:58 OldCoder <Uberi> or just look for the guy who swears excessively and irritates others?
21:59 OldCoder Not good enough if you're concerned about the information he's collecting
21:59 T_A_N_K i hear that there's a new way to use your client textures, how would i go about that?
22:00 NekoGloop texture_path = ... in minetest.conf
22:00 Uberi OldCoder: is the IRC channel not a public place?
22:00 OldCoder Uberi, Not an invite-only room
22:01 OldCoder Uberi, and BTW do you feel a 32 year old man should be pretending to be a particular 12 year old to gather personal information about the 12 year old's friends?
22:01 OldCoder You are entitled to your views
22:01 OldCoder But that one is probably not going to be popular
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22:01 Uberi OldCoder: ah, I misunderstood
22:01 crusty hello
22:02 OldCoder BTW There is no evidence for the year figure. I was informed of this today.
22:02 OldCoder Crisco, hello
22:02 Uberi but surely you would need to be logged in to be in an invite-only channel?
22:02 Uberi hi crusty
22:02 T_A_N_K good day crusty
22:02 crusty could someone tell me, how to install texture packs? I think I'm doing something wrong :P (linux)
22:02 OldCoder Uberi, unless you find a loophole. Which he did and I am crossing my fingers I have corrected.
22:02 crusty T_A_N_K: it's 00:02 out there, but thanks anyway
22:02 crusty ;)
22:03 Uberi OldCoder: that is quite terrible, which channel was it?
22:03 OldCoder Uberi, You may understand if we limit discussion of the channel for the moment.
22:03 OldCoder It was only supposed to be a safe place to work on a fork
22:03 OldCoder Now we've got an adult psychotic
22:03 OldCoder Hammering at it
22:04 leo_rockway crusty: .minetest/textures/all IIRC
22:04 leo_rockway put all the images in there, without subdirectories
22:04 Uberi OldCoder: that's pretty unfortunate, I imagine IP bans wouldn't be very effective due to VPNs?
22:04 crusty leo_rockway: ahh... i forget "textures" dir
22:04 crusty thanks
22:04 MiJyn OldCoder, would you happen to know the hostname of LM?
22:05 OldCoder Uberi, You are correct. Freenode staff talked to me a bit about the matter. MiJyn What do you mean?
22:05 OldCoder Uberi, he uses multiple VPNs. We need his real life identity. Thought we had it but no longer sure.
22:05 leo_rockway crusty: either texture or textures. I'm at work on Windows right now :S
22:05 OldCoder If somebody here speaks Spanish, a volunteer would be helpful.
22:05 OldCoder Mine is rusty.
22:05 OldCoder MiJyn, PM for that
22:05 Exio ?
22:06 leo_rockway OldCoder: I do. I don't know much about what happened, though.
22:06 leo_rockway I saw in the forum that somebody had doxed him.
22:06 Exio OldCoder: spanish speaker here
22:06 crusty leo_rockway: it's textures ;p
22:06 OldCoder leo_rockway, Exio nicks noted and will PM over time. One step at a time.
22:06 Uberi oh yeah that's correct
22:06 leo_rockway alright
22:07 Uberi anyone remember where that was?
22:07 OldCoder Pretty much just want to speak with a university and see if the name matches. Then possibly speak with him and see if it's really him.
22:07 leo_rockway crusty: I tried a few textures, but I always go back to default.
22:07 crusty well... I don't really like default textures
22:08 leo_rockway I like minetoon, but it's NC and ND... I don't like that.
22:08 leo_rockway VanessaE's is also good, I used it for a while.
22:09 Uberi minetoon is excellent
22:09 leo_rockway I didn't like the water in minetoon
22:12 iqualfragile good night
22:12 Uberi bye
22:12 leo_rockway \ø
22:18 T_A_N_K if technic and realtest are compatable i'm going to shit my pants lmao
22:21 leo_rockway realtest does look interesting. I'll have to check it out when I get home.
22:22 NakedFury what is realtest?
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22:26 leo_rockway it's realistic minetest
22:27 NakedFury a mod? is it in the release section??
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22:29 leo_rockway modding general: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2671
22:32 LAD i gt
22:32 LAD igtg
22:34 Uberi whoa these modders are doing some incredible stuff
22:34 T_A_N_K the mods area all FREAKIN COMPATABLE! even with my essentials shops! :D http://i.imgur.com/5Uqee.png
22:36 leo_rockway I'm concerned about Nyan Cat...
22:36 Uberi oh yeah weren't there copyright issues with that?
22:36 leo_rockway apparently so
22:43 Uberi yeah I suppose they should be removed
22:43 Uberi I've only ever found one anyways :P
22:43 pskosinski where are they? :(
22:44 pskosinski I was once destroying everything for hours and no nyan-cat :(
22:44 Uberi pskosinski: go deeper!
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22:46 T_A_N_K i've never been this excited to play minetest lol
22:47 NekoGloop how the heck do me and tank always join simultaenously
22:47 T_A_N_K because my dad freakin unplugged the internet!
22:47 leo_rockway Uberi: I found one once.
22:47 NekoGloop XD
22:48 Uberi yeah that was pretty satisfying eh?
22:49 NekoGloop we talking about nyancats?
22:49 leo_rockway yes
22:49 Uberi yep
22:49 Uberi found one on redcrab's I believe
22:49 NekoGloop heh
22:49 NekoGloop i found one on singleplayer within 24 hours of starting the world
22:49 NekoGloop beat that
22:50 Uberi I was flying around back before the fly priv, lookin' for MESE, and bam, there's a funny looking rod shape in the distance
22:50 Uberi I was really confused about what it was :/
22:51 NekoGloop lol
22:51 NekoGloop 0.3.1?
22:51 Uberi mighta been
22:51 Uberi those were fun times, with everyone flying everywhere :P
22:52 NekoGloop i can only imagin
22:52 leo_rockway NekoGloop: I start a new world every time. I never play more than 10 minutes or so.
22:52 leo_rockway so the one time I found Nyan cat... yeah, I have beat your 24 hours.
22:52 NekoGloop lol
22:53 leo_rockway I'm still in "let's test all the mods" phase...
22:53 leo_rockway I'm compiling a list of mods I like to finally play survival at some point.
22:53 NekoGloop well i want mobs that work :3
22:53 NekoGloop also no skeleton rapists
22:53 NekoGloop :D
22:54 leo_rockway simple mobs works quite well for me.
22:54 NekoGloop re: windows build doesnt run them
22:54 NekoGloop as soon as it gets fixed, sure.
23:00 leo_rockway get GNU
23:02 NekoGloop translation: get shit
23:02 leo_rockway o.0
23:05 NekoGloop I'm building a legit wooden mansion :D
23:06 Uberi no WE?
23:08 NekoGloop no WE for making it
23:08 NekoGloop WE for saving it and distributing
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23:08 T_A_N_K in realtest there's a mod called remove_selected blocks, remove that if you don't want realtest to lag!
23:12 NekoGloop how many people are going to do a lets play with me? :P
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23:15 M13 hello
23:15 NekoGloop hello ubuntunerd
23:15 Uberi o/ M13
23:16 M13 hey did you here about my Server
23:16 M13 Computer
23:16 M13 i need someone to host a server for me on make me a op on a server
23:17 M13 so i have something to do
23:17 NekoGloop do what i do: play singleplayer and make something awesome
23:18 T_A_N_K oh my god
23:18 M13 nah singleplayer Lags a lot on my computer
23:18 T_A_N_K my head is freakin spinning
23:18 T_A_N_K i need the computer mod to look up these recipes >.<
23:18 NekoGloop craft guide
23:19 Uberi by cornernote
23:19 pskosinski How can I rotate block...?
23:20 NekoGloop pskosinki: get technic mod, it has a screwdriver
23:20 pskosinski ty
23:21 NekoGloop screwdriver written by me, ofc :3
23:23 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZms3MA WIP mansion, how does it look?
23:24 NekoGloop it's quite spacious inside, and is also broken up into rooms inside as well.
23:24 Uberi what's with the floating apples :P
23:24 NekoGloop mapblocks loading funny
23:25 NekoGloop or that might be my tree farm
23:25 NekoGloop yeah that's my tree farm
23:25 T_A_N_K how do i make it so minetest can load up more textures?
23:25 T_A_N_K i'm not kidding, it said the texture pallet is full
23:25 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: enable_texture_atlas = false
23:25 T_A_N_K thank you
23:25 NekoGloop also that only causes slight glitches
23:26 T_A_N_K oh ok
23:26 NekoGloop the textures will still load properly
23:26 NekoGloop for the most part, anyway.
23:26 T_A_N_K what kind of glitches?
23:26 NekoGloop textures loading in parts and/or not loading at all
23:26 NekoGloop but only rarely
23:26 NekoGloop seems to be incredibly rare on windows
23:27 T_A_N_K that's what's happening with it on, let's see if it worked!
23:27 NekoGloop loading times will be 15~% longer though with it off.
23:27 T_A_N_K nah it was about the same
23:28 T_A_N_K realbadangel are you there?
23:28 NekoGloop btw, Uberi, did you like the mansion?
23:28 RealBadAngel yup
23:28 T_A_N_K how do i use pipes with techit?
23:28 T_A_N_K technic*
23:28 NekoGloop when i finish the mansion i will upload the mansion .we file
23:29 RealBadAngel not yet done, so no use
23:29 Uberi NekoGloop: pretty neat, and a floating apple room is a good idea too
23:29 T_A_N_K welp guess what? i thought your mod was soo freakin cool, i think i'll do a lets play right now
23:30 Uberi pipes? like for transporting items?
23:30 NekoGloop floating apples are not intentional XD
23:30 NekoGloop was just a by-product of the tree farm
23:30 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: aw, you arent gonna wait for me?
23:31 T_A_N_K well i can still include you when you get the mic
23:31 NekoGloop lol ok
23:31 NekoGloop dont invent the wheel without me!
23:32 RealBadAngel pipes will be used for water/lava
23:32 RealBadAngel for items are tubes
23:32 Uberi cool
23:33 Uberi I've been needing some sort of item transporter since water doesn't do it
23:33 Uberi wait, why doesn't water transport items? :O
23:33 T_A_N_K good, include acid too
23:33 T_A_N_K maybe even alchamy?
23:33 RealBadAngel Uberi, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Fv_HtzPLg&amp;feature=plcp
23:35 * VanessaE peeks in
23:35 RealBadAngel hi VanessaE
23:35 VanessaE for Uberi and leo_rockway:   http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/nc.zip
23:35 Uberi o/ VanessaE
23:36 VanessaE copyright problem solved if c55 would get off his ass and include these images/
23:36 * Uberi feels like a child on christmas morning
23:36 * NekoGloop gives Uberi a cookie
23:36 Uberi VanessaE: pull request?
23:37 * Uberi om nom nom
23:37 NekoGloop :3
23:38 leo_rockway VanessaE: but that still has the likeness of NC.
23:38 leo_rockway IANAL, but I don't know if that solves the issue o.o
23:38 VanessaE Uberi: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/11
23:39 VanessaE leo_rockway: entirely my and c55's work.  face drawn entirely by me.
23:39 VanessaE copyrights don't cover likenesses, only implementations.
23:39 Uberi VanessaE: not a derivative work?
23:39 VanessaE Uberi: nope.  I would have had to start with the original.  I did not.
23:39 leo_rockway are you 100% certain? I mean, if I were to draw my own Mickey Mouse, it would still be Miceky Mouse.
23:39 leo_rockway Mickey*
23:40 Uberi VanessaE: might wanna update the pull request title :)
23:40 VanessaE Uberi: just did.
23:40 VanessaE leo_rockway: mickey mouse is a unique image that would be impossible to recreate without it being mickey.  What I've done clearly is not nyancat but is meant to look lik eit.
23:41 Uberi VanessaE: call it the nan cat :D
23:41 Uberi RealBadAngel: technic, I assume?
23:41 leo_rockway VanessaE: I can make a mouse with big ears...
23:41 leo_rockway I /think/ likeness is copyrightable.
23:41 VanessaE leo_rockway: not as far as I know it isn't.
23:42 RealBadAngel Uberi, what about it?
23:42 NekoGloop call it a Meow Cat
23:42 leo_rockway http://www.ivanhoffman.com/characters.html <-- tl;dr
23:42 leo_rockway I'm at work, but that should answer it
23:42 VanessaE doesn't matter, copyright also doesn't apply to simple (read: few colors, very simple artwork) iconic images like he's bitching about anyway
23:43 Uberi RealBadAngel: it's not in the description so I'm not sure what mod that is
23:44 RealBadAngel adding christmast trees with plums to the game
23:44 leo_rockway VanessaE: apparently it's possible to restrict usage with trademarks. But, AFAIK, Nyan Cat is not trademarked.
23:45 VanessaE leo_rockway: it is not.  trademark is still pending.
23:46 Uberi what if it is granted? is it retroactive?
23:46 VanessaE Uberi: no, because prior art and prior usage would water it down to the point where he probably won't be granted it
23:46 RealBadAngel almost 100% of the stuff is done in a way "we saw it" "heard of it"
23:46 RealBadAngel so we code it
23:47 VanessaE the guy based the idea of "pop tart cat" on something else, I forget what
23:47 RealBadAngel any claimers can go *** themselves
23:47 VanessaE (apparently pastry felines have existed on the internet proper to "pop tart cat"/"nyan cat")
23:47 T_A_N_K i just had to go through about 200 depends.txt and add craft_guide
23:47 leo_rockway VanessaE: no, the whole audio/video was based on a mesh.
23:47 T_A_N_K i feel like a zombie
23:47 leo_rockway the cat is just a cat with a poptart o.0
23:47 leo_rockway the audio is form another source
23:48 VanessaE leo_rockway: not the audio
23:48 leo_rockway and then a 3rd person put the cat and the son together
23:48 leo_rockway song*
23:48 VanessaE I mean the graphic.
23:48 T_A_N_K vanessae: unblocked
23:48 T_A_N_K hi :D
23:48 VanessaE the audio comes from some japanese song
23:48 VanessaE piss off tank.
23:48 T_A_N_K yay! good ol vanessae
23:48 Uberi oh yes that would probably prevent trademarking
23:48 VanessaE I don't appreciate being /ignored for BS reasons.
23:48 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: you dont need to :l
23:48 leo_rockway VanessaE: the graphic is a poptart and a cat. There isn't much work put into it o.o
23:48 T_A_N_K oh i needed to >.<
23:48 T_A_N_K time to do a lets play (hopefully)
23:48 Uberi the nyan cat should have an ABM that plays "nyan nyan nyan" when you're near it :D
23:49 VanessaE leo_rockway: exactly.  trivial images are not copyrightable :-)
23:49 leo_rockway we don't have poptarts here :S
23:49 VanessaE Uberi: rm -rf games/minetest_game/mods/default/sounds/nyan.ogg :-)
23:49 VanessaE or whatever file it would end up being :D
23:50 Uberi Error 555: too awesome to delete
23:50 NekoGloop Error 666: You shouldnt have done that...
23:53 NekoGloop free majora's mask cartridge for whoever gets the reference :3
23:54 leo_rockway anyway, time to go home
23:54 leo_rockway \ø
23:57 NekoGloop Uberi: now my mansion has a roof! :D
23:57 Uberi :O
23:57 NekoGloop stairsplus
23:58 VanessaE ok time to go see what kind of damage has happened lately on redcrab's server
23:58 NekoGloop current mod usage: stairsplus, xdoors2, gates (by me), and xpanes
23:59 NekoGloop Uberi, i trust you are able to find and install the neccessary mods?

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