Time Nick Message 00:00 VanessaE hrm 00:01 VanessaE the only way I see that wouldn't confuse me is to throw everything except for my work directory, re-clone master to a new location, then apply my changes from the work directory manually 00:01 VanessaE then commit the result back to your online repos 00:01 VanessaE and delete the work directory and old/confused clone 00:02 VanessaE (unless the work dir contains other stuff you need to keep of course) 00:12 khonkhortisan cy1, you can update worldedit to get the new //move 00:19 VanessaE khonkhortisan: what did you settle on for the aqutoplace algorithm for those crosswires and junctions? 00:23 khonkhortisan When a wire is placed, the function spreads in four straight lines from the source. It checks whether there are three connections, and if there are, crosses the wire. If there aren't, it places an insulated wire on the direction that would connect both ends. If the wire was removed instead of added, the function is uncrossing and says that the direction it came from doesn't connect, making it seem like there's less connections t 00:23 khonkhortisan han three, the required amount for crossing. I think that sort of sums it up. 00:24 VanessaE nice 00:26 VanessaE is there any case for "curved" (X <-> Z bent) insulated wires? 00:26 khonkhortisan no 00:26 VanessaE ok, didn't think so. 00:26 VanessaE trying to think of other stuff we need that I can't code :D 00:27 khonkhortisan easiest thing to do would be to manually place plus, t-junction, and corner insulated wire. 00:28 NekoGloop_ well that wouldnt be a hard concept 00:28 VanessaE yeah 00:28 VanessaE just thinking of those folks who might expect autoplacement. I got lots of "do these turn on their own?" comments when I was first writing pipeworks 00:29 VanessaE so I try to think a little further ahead now 00:29 khonkhortisan I didn't get the grates to do anything 00:29 VanessaE they only connect vertically 00:29 khonkhortisan I figured that out 00:29 VanessaE that is, you gotta put a pipe above them 00:30 VanessaE but they're still useless until RealBadAngel gets his flow code done :) 00:30 khonkhortisan what works, then? 00:30 VanessaE at present? you can place them. :-) 00:31 khonkhortisan what about the other kind of pipes? 00:31 VanessaE the tubes? 00:31 khonkhortisan yeah 00:31 VanessaE I thin RBA's pretty much got that working 00:31 VanessaE he just hasn't released the necessary patches 00:31 NekoGloop_ note he hasnt released anything for at least two weeks now 00:32 VanessaE yeah I know. he's of the mentality that if it isn't 110% working, it stays on his hard disk. 00:34 NekoGloop_ 110%... good luck with that xD 00:34 khonkhortisan it should be on an online branch 00:34 khonkhortisan I don't understand worldedit's spiral 00:34 NekoGloop_ he has a github 00:35 NekoGloop_ he dont use it like jeija does 00:36 NekoGloop_ what is the name for red lightstone that's on? 00:36 VanessaE lightstone_red_on ? 00:37 khonkhortisan mesecons_lightstone:^ 00:37 NekoGloop_ thank you 00:37 NekoGloop_ wha... 00:38 VanessaE who...? 00:38 NekoGloop_ it gave me off red lightstone... 00:38 khonkhortisan on red lightstone drops off red lightstone 00:38 VanessaE afaik all of the 'on' stuff does that in 00:39 NekoGloop_ ... 00:39 khonkhortisan you'll have to power it if you want it to stay on 00:39 VanessaE you hacker, you ;) 00:40 NekoGloop_ actually it doesnt say that 00:40 NekoGloop_ it just says "red lightstone" 00:40 VanessaE oh, well I'll fix that real quick....... 00:40 VanessaE :D 00:40 NekoGloop_ however I'm currently on a server that may or may not have an outdated version 00:41 VanessaE This is mesecons we're talking about. If it was installed more than 10 minutes ago, it's outdated :D 00:41 NekoGloop_ did you know that 1+2+2+1+1+2=9? (12/21/12) 00:41 khonkhortisan is it possible to do away with increasing active_block_range for large machines? 00:42 VanessaE heh 00:42 VanessaE khonkhortisan: no 00:42 khonkhortisan wah 00:42 NekoGloop_ mesecons = 10 mins later, outdated. technic = 5 years later, still latest version 00:42 VanessaE unless c55 figures out a way to increase the speed of the server to compensate for a larger default 00:43 khonkhortisan I should've waited on merging my branch, it took longer than 10 mins to make a commit, in which time I now need to merge into my branch 00:43 VanessaE or if he adds something to let a mod change that default. 00:44 khonkhortisan anything that uses abms should fly around and follow you. Look behind you, and you see a blinkybat with a wire leash going back to the machine 00:45 VanessaE now that said 00:45 NekoGloop_ lol 00:45 VanessaE didn't RBA say he figured out a workaround for that? 00:45 khonkhortisan something about node's timers 00:45 VanessaE some sort of "ghost players" that get left in every mapblock the mod uses? 00:45 khonkhortisan *nodes' 00:45 khonkhortisan haven't heard of it 00:45 NekoGloop_ vanessae: i proposed he place dummy players, but havent heard anything since 00:46 VanessaE oh ok 00:46 VanessaE heh 00:46 VanessaE he must be exceptionally busy lately.. haven't seen him around that much 00:49 M13 hello 00:49 khonkhortisan you can have the worldedit priv without having the give priv 00:49 M13 hello 00:49 VanessaE hey M13. 00:50 khonkhortisan hello 00:50 LAD hi 00:50 VanessaE hi 00:50 M13 hey Vanessa 00:50 M13 how are you today 00:51 NekoGloop_ khon: ikr 00:51 VanessaE I'm okay 00:52 M13 vanessa 00:52 VanessaE hm? 00:52 M13 is it possible 00:52 M13 to make 00:52 M13 00:53 M13 a mod that lets you drive a Car / Truck around? 00:53 VanessaE not at present 00:53 M13 ok 00:53 VanessaE the old pushable blocks/monorail mod can do something similar, 00:53 khonkhortisan it looks like lilypads have an even distribution 00:53 VanessaE but the API fo rmoving the player doesn't allow it to move smoothly enough for it to work well 00:54 M13 ok so its buggy 00:54 VanessaE khonkhortisan: odd, they're supposed to be quite random. I'll work on that 00:54 VanessaE (I should apply some perlin noise, limit where stuff can grow 00:55 khonkhortisan and just as I'm trying to get a screenshot it turns to nighttime 00:55 wowiamdiamonds ) 00:55 wowiamdiamonds sorry those parentheses were annoying me 00:55 VanessaE /time 6000 00:55 VanessaE :-) 00:55 khonkhortisan I don't have /time, I just have /worldedit 00:55 VanessaE wowiamdiamonds: sowwy (()()((()))() 00:55 VanessaE ;) 00:55 VanessaE khonkhortisan: that command is part of the game. 00:56 NekoGloop_ VanessaE: ) 00:56 NekoGloop_ just one 00:56 VanessaE hehe 00:56 khonkhortisan you forget the smiley that closed it (()()((()))() ;) 00:57 VanessaE http://www.xkcd.com/541/ 00:57 VanessaE apropos. :-) 00:57 khonkhortisan huh. lilypads do burn on lava. 00:57 NekoGloop_ but that's a new line 00:59 khonkhortisan the paranthetical reference (funny paranthetical reference) :) 00:59 NekoGloop_ ERROR: unknown symbol near 00:59 VanessaE Some Exception: illegal 01:01 NekoGloop_ Some Exception: your IP has been recorded. You were trying to access file C:/fbi_mainframes. Prepare to die. 01:01 khonkhortisan mainframes is at the toplevel? 01:01 khonkhortisan you shouldn't have talked about the fbi, you got the cia on our tail 01:02 NekoGloop_ lol 01:02 NekoGloop_ technically they're on you; you did the action. 01:03 NekoGloop_ this spleefing arena is going to look so epic 01:08 NekoGloop_ what is something that is walkable and not flammable? 01:08 VanessaE cobble 01:08 khonkhortisan cobble? 01:08 VanessaE :) 01:08 VanessaE derp? :D 01:08 NekoGloop_ not walkable i mean 01:08 khonkhortisan water 01:08 VanessaE mesecons 01:09 khonkhortisan lava 01:09 NekoGloop_ water wouldnt work, I'm protecting a lava pool 01:09 NekoGloop_ mesecons are perfect though 01:09 NekoGloop_ protecting, as in lavacooling is on the server 01:09 NekoGloop_ if the lava isnt touching an air node, it doesnt cool 01:10 NekoGloop_ but i still want the lava to be there, as i'm making a spleef arena 01:10 khonkhortisan so you dig through, it touches air, and it cools 01:10 NekoGloop_ server has creative mode; griefing is pointless 01:11 khonkhortisan tv says "she sung acapello" 01:13 khonkhortisan Go inside trapstone while holding a tube. It turns black. 01:15 VanessaE khonkhortisan: does it do that regardless? 01:15 VanessaE yup, it's supposed to do that 01:16 NekoGloop_ what's the name of glass skylights from homedecor? 01:17 VanessaE homedecor:skylight 01:20 VanessaE changed your mind> 01:20 VanessaE ?> 01:20 Keegann no 01:20 * VanessaE rips the > key off her keyboard 01:20 Keegann I'm on my iPod 01:20 VanessaE oh ok 01:22 NekoGloop_ my spleef arena.. is done!!! 01:22 Keegann I need some mod ideas 01:22 khonkhortisan I want to play! I'm bad at fighting 01:22 NekoGloop_ ok 01:23 VanessaE Keegann: http://minetest.net/forum/search.php?action=show_user_topics&user_id=1580 01:23 VanessaE :) 01:24 Keegann yea so 01:25 VanessaE Keegann: all of my mods are epic. install them if you don't have them already. :-) 01:25 Keegann I want to make my own but I have no ideas 01:26 VanessaE ah 01:26 VanessaE you need inspiration eh 01:26 Keegann yep 01:28 NekoGloop_ hm... 01:28 NekoGloop_ i got nothin 01:28 VanessaE I look to the real world for ideas when I come up dry like that 01:31 NekoGloop_ ok, who wants to SPLEEF!?!?! 01:31 VanessaE khonkhortisan: btw I was thinking of making a change to the insulated junctions to make them look like they're "welded" with a minimal junction 'bump'. 01:32 NekoGloop_ no 01:32 VanessaE NekoGloop_: pass. 01:32 NekoGloop_ that would make them look like they're connected 01:32 VanessaE NekoGloop_: they are. 01:32 VanessaE T-junctions 01:32 VanessaE not crosswires 01:33 NekoGloop_ i still dont understand why you want t-junction insulated 01:33 VanessaE becasue you sometimes need to bring wires together without affecting their neighbors or neighboring devices 01:37 VanessaE I hatewhen he does that. 01:38 Keegann tell me if it says Keegann blah blah blah 01:38 VanessaE (it was probably an "oh shit mom's coming! *close!*" moment :D 01:38 Keegann ACTION is a test 01:38 VanessaE [09-10 21:38] ACTION is a test 01:38 VanessaE try /me 01:38 Keegann fudge 01:38 Keegann I'm on iPod 01:38 VanessaE /me usually works everywhere 01:38 VanessaE it's a pretty universal command 01:39 Keegann /me is a test 01:39 VanessaE damn 01:39 Keegann now? 01:39 VanessaE no :-/ 01:39 khonkhortisan /me without the space first 01:39 * khonkhortisan like this 01:39 Keegann how the yet do you do the me command on iPod 01:39 VanessaE good question 01:40 khonkhortisan type it? 01:40 VanessaE khonkhortisan: I think his irc client lacks support for the command 01:40 Keegann no 01:40 Keegann it's irchon 01:44 Keegann who has a IRC app for iPod or iPhone? 01:45 VanessaE not I, sorry 01:45 VanessaE I don't even own any idevices 01:45 VanessaE I think nekogloop uses colloquy or something like that 01:51 tripod there are a few ios free irc apps 01:51 tripod all terrible 01:51 tripod but i dont use i devices 01:56 khonkhortisan ime 01:57 khonkhortisan iyou ius iwe iyall iall ialloyall igroups ipeople 01:57 khonkhortisan imyself 01:57 VanessaE heh 01:57 M13Coder Test 01:58 VanessaE test. 01:58 M13Coder It work 01:58 VanessaE seems to 01:58 M13Coder On a different app 01:59 M13Coder test 02:00 khonkhortisan woah 3d animated torches 02:00 VanessaE where? 02:00 VanessaE 3dforniture has those but I don't care too much for them 02:01 khonkhortisan yeah it's from that 02:01 M13Coder test 02:01 VanessaE wrong command 02:01 VanessaE that was a notice, 02:01 VanessaE you want action 02:03 M13Coder Werid 02:03 M13 can someone help me with this error? 02:03 M13 http://pastebin.com/trmQw658 02:04 M13 its Minetest-Classic 02:04 VanessaE NekoGloop: because sometimes you need one wire to cross over another, even to the point of having one junction right above another. at least one of them has to be insulated to prevent unwanted connections. 02:04 VanessaE (and you were off for about 30 mins) 02:05 NekoGloop Sorry 02:05 NekoGloop xD 02:05 khonkhortisan NekoGloop, I'm here, I don't see much 02:05 Keegann good night 02:05 VanessaE M13: that log looks incomplete, but try disabling the texture atlas 02:06 NekoGloop Go over in the direction of the water, the closest to the spawn 02:06 khonkhortisan this black circle? 02:06 NekoGloop Go across the water, then you should see the arena 02:06 M13 i did Vanessa 02:06 NekoGloop VanessaE: Its not seeing his config file 02:06 M13 and thats all of the Debag and Terminal 02:06 VanessaE M13: if you did, you wouldn't be seeing all those "Adding..." lines :-) 02:06 VanessaE oh yeah, now I see 02:07 Keegann good night 02:07 Keegann y'all 02:07 VanessaE night keegan 02:07 khonkhortisan oh I see it 02:07 VanessaE M13: did you edit the right .conf file? 02:07 NekoGloop The giant steel block arena 02:07 NekoGloop It has a watervator 02:08 M13 what do i add to the conf 02:08 NekoGloop Unfortunatly i had to switch to my ipad 02:08 VanessaE M13: it's not a matter of what, but where is the conf file 02:08 M13 there is none it didnt make one 02:08 VanessaE are you sure you created one in /home/chris/Desktop/minetest-classic ? 02:08 M13 yep checked 02:09 VanessaE try cd'ing to that directory first and then run the game 02:09 M13 ill add one fro 02:09 khonkhortisan I use ~/.minetest/minetest.conf 02:09 M13 ok 02:09 VanessaE M13: so cd /home/chris/Desktop/minetest-classic/; bin/minetest 02:09 VanessaE see if it creates one then 02:09 M13 khonkhortisan: you are running the installed .edb package of minetest 02:10 M13 ok 02:10 khonkhortisan I'm running git/cmake-compiled version, I don't know what .edb is 02:10 VanessaE khonkhortisan: he means .deb 02:10 VanessaE I run a self-compiled copy also (in fact I have two for different purposes) 02:10 khonkhortisan khonkhortisan.rpm 02:11 M13 Vanessa its : cd /home/chris/Desktop/minetest-classic/bin && ./minetest 02:11 khonkhortisan one copy for cheating, the other copy for fighting cheating :P 02:11 VanessaE khonkhortisan: minetestc55_0.4.3-1-trilinear_amd64.deb :-) 02:11 VanessaE M13: no 02:11 khonkhortisan bin/minetest 02:11 VanessaE M13: so cd /home/chris/Desktop/minetest-classic/; bin/minetest 02:11 VanessaE you want to stay in the game's top level directory 02:12 khonkhortisan Do I have anyone to fight? 02:12 M13 Vanessa 02:12 VanessaE khonkhortisan: cheating eh? heh 02:12 M13 its not running 02:12 M13 the command is : so cd /home/chris/Desktop/minetest-classic/; bin/minetest 02:12 khonkhortisan NekoGloop, what team am I on? 02:12 VanessaE M13: nonono 02:12 NekoGloop Neither 02:12 VanessaE M13: don't put the 'so" in there. 02:13 M13 ok i tried that 02:13 khonkhortisan red or blue? 02:13 VanessaE cd /home/chris/Desktop/minetest-classic/ ; bin/minetest 02:13 NekoGloop The 'corners' are just for organizing the actual fight easier 02:13 M13 o ok 02:13 khonkhortisan no fair, you're invisible 02:13 M13 it did the same thing 02:13 NekoGloop But as i said, i'm on my ipad 02:13 VanessaE M13: what error? 02:13 M13 same error 02:13 NekoGloop So i cant go on the server 02:13 VanessaE M13: make a new pastebin please - from the very end of the log 02:13 M13 ok 02:14 khonkhortisan okay I'll just leave my character here when I rejoin 02:14 VanessaE NekoGloop: haven't figured out how to compile MT for ipad yet? ;) 02:14 NekoGloop Lol 02:14 NekoGloop You cant 02:14 NekoGloop Not without jailbreak anyhow 02:15 khonkhortisan void the warranty to run free non-os sofware. That makes sense. 02:15 M13 Vanessa : its not recording in the Debug 02:15 M13 Here is the Terminal error 02:15 VanessaE pastebin it. 02:16 M13 http://pastebin.com/Qg9dbrjK 02:16 M13 there it is :P) 02:16 VanessaE minetest: nv20_state_fb.c:50: get_rt_format: Assertion `0' failed. 02:16 VanessaE video driver problem. 02:17 M13 weird 02:17 VanessaE it ain't finding your config because you edited the wrong file, but that aside this seems like a bad/missing video driver 02:18 M13 it does that with minetest 0.3.0 and older 02:18 M13 others work 02:19 VanessaE *shrug* I dunno then 02:20 khonkhortisan what should I make out of mesecons? 02:20 VanessaE khonkhortisan: a CPU? :) 02:22 khonkhortisan I would'nt know where to start 02:23 NekoGloop Look at some random minecrap video 02:23 khonkhortisan ^ is what I'm doing 02:26 VanessaE how about that escalator I saw once? 02:26 VanessaE I think we have all the stuff needed to make it work anyway 02:27 khonkhortisan how do I move the player? hold the jump button? 02:27 VanessaE dunno 02:27 VanessaE I got the impression it was automatic 02:28 khonkhortisan afaik mt pistons don't move the player 02:28 VanessaE hm 02:32 VanessaE how much can a piston push? 02:32 NekoGloop The fastest way to get to the top of a world in minecrap is via a lot of pistons. Even flying at max speed. 02:32 * khonkhortisan goes to check 02:32 VanessaE how about a player piano? use cobble and glass for the "paper roll" and regular torch + solar panel for the detector 02:33 khonkhortisan ooh that's better than what I thought of for playing a song 02:33 VanessaE use pistons to keep the "roll" moving 02:33 khonkhortisan then I need a track changer 02:34 khonkhortisan even if pistons can only push so far, you just make a little bend and it goes further 02:34 VanessaE right 02:34 VanessaE I guess you'll need about 15 tracks (8 notes plus however many drums/etc there are) 02:36 khonkhortisan 15 02:37 khonkhortisan I'll build in the air 02:37 VanessaE *nod* 02:38 VanessaE oh for fanciness: wire up each note block with a mesecons lamp :-) 02:38 VanessaE so the lamp flashes when the note plays :) 02:39 NekoGloop Heh no 02:41 VanessaE aw :( 02:44 khonkhortisan why is the default note one above the lowest one? 02:45 VanessaE good question 02:45 NekoGloop Its not 02:45 khonkhortisan it is for me 02:45 VanessaE I've never actually used a noteblock in practice, just used them in some home decor recipes :-) 02:45 NekoGloop Its a trick played by the almighty gods of lua, also known as jeija, rba... 02:46 VanessaE haha 02:46 khonkhortisan 12 notes, including black 02:46 VanessaE we put the randomness there to test your faith, or some bullshit :D 02:46 khonkhortisan Speaking of which, they could be colored based on their note, too 02:47 NekoGloop Did i say you were a god(dess) of lua? ;) 02:47 VanessaE khonkhortisan: not a bad idea; there's a little space in the lower left corner of the texture that holds a "note" symbol. That could easily be overwritten with a little colored square like you were thinking of doing with those µC hash diagrams 02:47 VanessaE NekoGloop: no, but *I* did :D 02:48 khonkhortisan I only wanted the hashes because I didn't have the crossed wire 02:49 khonkhortisan when nodeblocks are put into industrial production there will be a demand for full piano range 02:50 VanessaE "industrial production" hehe 02:51 VanessaE seems to me one should be able to set the note and instrument by a right click/formspec 02:51 khonkhortisan putting glass in between the solar panel and torch makes the torch be too far away 02:51 VanessaE that'll certainly be needed if we expand it beyond whatwe have now 02:52 VanessaE use a light stone 02:52 VanessaE or a super glow glass 02:52 khonkhortisan using lightstone I can mark out the black notes 02:52 NekoGloop Or a talinite block from gloopores 02:52 NekoGloop It's the brightest possible 02:53 * khonkhortisan can't tell the difference between a mesecon torch and a power plant 02:53 VanessaE super glow glass is fairly bright 02:53 VanessaE about 2x that of a torch anyway 02:53 VanessaE khonkhortisan: upgrade 02:53 VanessaE power plants now have a plantlike base around them 02:54 khonkhortisan I know, I still picked up the torch anyway 02:54 khonkhortisan even after reading it said torch 02:54 khonkhortisan dark lightstone is dark 02:55 VanessaE turn it on :-) 02:55 khonkhortisan dark lightstone is darker than a torch 02:57 VanessaE super glowglass is bright 02:57 NekoGloop I was thinking of revamping minitest... 02:57 khonkhortisan lava works 02:57 VanessaE haha 02:58 VanessaE hell of a light source :D 02:58 khonkhortisan now my piston system is dangerous if I do it wrong 02:59 khonkhortisan no, I was wrong, somehow I removed the glass first 03:00 NekoGloop Lol 03:00 khonkhortisan If I used cobble and air, it would slow the song down to wait for the lava to flow 03:01 VanessaE ok, super glowglass is bright enough 03:01 VanessaE just tried it 03:02 khonkhortisan then I wouldn't need the torches 03:03 VanessaE perfect - it's *just* bright enough to light a solar panel through glass but not one that's adjacent 03:03 VanessaE so you can stack 'em sideways without any dividers 03:03 VanessaE that's adjacent in the next track that is 03:04 khonkhortisan So should sgg be part of the track or above it? 03:04 VanessaE I placed it above 03:06 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_3007991927.png 03:07 khonkhortisan what time is the middle of the day? 03:07 NekoGloop Noon 03:07 khonkhortisan what /time? 03:07 NekoGloop Oh you mean minetest 03:07 NekoGloop 12000 03:07 khonkhortisan yes, I'm still on-topic 03:07 VanessaE oh, be sure you cover the reader/sensor array with cobble or something to keep the daylight out 03:08 khonkhortisan OW I broke the piano 03:08 NekoGloop Lol 03:09 VanessaE be back in a bit 03:10 NekoGloop Ok 03:12 khonkhortisan oh switch ties are insulated 03:12 khonkhortisan I mean button ties 03:15 khonkhortisan now that I don't get. Can light go through noteblocks? 03:15 NekoGloop Probably nit 03:15 NekoGloop Not* 03:15 khonkhortisan I know it can't go through dirt 03:15 NekoGloop Check if sunlight_propogates is true 03:19 khonkhortisan drawtype = "allfaces_optional" 03:19 NekoGloop Uhm... 03:20 NekoGloop What does that do, exactly? 03:20 khonkhortisan I'm in a nodeblock room and it's still light 03:20 NekoGloop nodeblock? 03:21 NekoGloop What sorcery is this?! 03:21 khonkhortisan a dirt room makes it dark 03:21 khonkhortisan noteblock 03:21 khonkhortisan sourcery would be drawtype = "meshlike", 03:22 khonkhortisan I could make it without changing the noteblock 03:38 NekoGloop God i'm bored 03:39 VanessaE back 03:39 NekoGloop Lol 03:42 VanessaE So what news did I miss in the last 30 minutes? :D 03:43 khonkhortisan solar panels can still activate noteblocks even though light goes through noteblocks 03:44 VanessaE huh 03:44 VanessaE odd 03:47 VanessaE maybe because they used to be transparent at one time 03:47 VanessaE the old texture used to just be a circle on an empty canvas 03:48 khonkhortisan want fiber? all it takes is a mesecon and a button 03:48 VanessaE eh? 03:48 VanessaE oh the receivers 03:48 VanessaE heh 03:50 khonkhortisan 20 notes total 03:51 VanessaE now the question is what tune to play :-) 03:52 khonkhortisan and how to change tracks and how to change the length of the track 03:52 VanessaE heh 03:52 khonkhortisan obviously the nyan song will be in there 03:52 VanessaE HAHAHAAH 03:53 VanessaE you sure mesecons is fast enough for that? 03:53 khonkhortisan no haven't started it up yet 03:56 VanessaE actually I was thinking either Für Elise or Music Box Dancer 03:56 khonkhortisan I don't know the second one 03:56 khonkhortisan I'm putting in an all-note test 03:56 VanessaE yes you do :-) 03:57 VanessaE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N_tmH6y7ng 03:58 khonkhortisan is it played slower when it's in the music box? 03:58 VanessaE heh, no. 03:58 VanessaE that's the normal speed of the tune 03:58 VanessaE oh I GOT IT. 03:58 VanessaE this is minetest. 03:58 VanessaE so, 03:59 VanessaE "Open a New Window" from MAME 03:59 khonkhortisan sudo zypper install mame 04:00 VanessaE hahaha! 04:00 VanessaE wrong MAME :-) 04:00 NekoGloop Make a noteblock studio-esque program 04:00 khonkhortisan a wired piane would be faster than a mechanical one 04:01 NekoGloop Yes it would 04:01 VanessaE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v648wU0x63k 04:01 khonkhortisan now I want vertical wires again 04:02 khonkhortisan voice synthesis! 04:03 VanessaE if you can pull that off... 04:08 khonkhortisan /time 4500 04:09 VanessaE wrong window :-) 04:09 khonkhortisan sunrise 04:12 khonkhortisan I need a trigger for two fast delayers 04:14 VanessaE um 04:15 VanessaE wb wow. 04:16 wowiamdiamonds hi 04:16 VanessaE khonkhortisan: not sure what to use :-) 04:19 VanessaE I had though of maybe putting a click track in with the actual music tracks\ 04:19 VanessaE but I figured that would just make the timing too sloppy 04:28 wowiamdiamonds ok, so i want to find out if something is even. how would i check if something is an integer (if x/2 is an integer, then...)? 04:29 wowiamdiamonds o wait i think i figured it out derp 04:29 VanessaE maybe if (x/2 == math.floor(x/2)) 04:29 wowiamdiamonds exactly 04:30 VanessaE take out the /2 if you just want to check for an integer itself 04:33 hmmmm too bad Lua is dynamically typed 04:35 VanessaE I suppose so 04:35 hmmmm the notion of 'even' only applies to integers, but anything numeric is stored as a floating point number in Lua 04:35 VanessaE (I come from a background where variable types were limited to string, 16 bit signed int, and something like 40-bit float :-) ) 04:39 celeron55 Lua's 64-bit floating point numbers can be exact integers up to 2^52 04:40 VanessaE wow, you're up late 04:40 celeron55 i'm up early 04:40 celeron55 using only floating point in a scripting language is a very good idea in my opinion 04:40 * NekoGloop gives celeron a cookie 04:40 VanessaE ok early then 04:40 celeron55 javascript does t hat too 04:41 celeron55 that* 04:41 celeron55 and not that early even, it's jut 7:42 04:42 celeron55 +s 04:42 VanessaE khonkhortisan: it just occurred to me that another thing mesecons could use in lieu of movestones would be a conveyor belt 04:42 VanessaE c55: ah, I was off by an hour 04:44 VanessaE (though it won't do any good in this player piano design) 04:53 NekoGloop I'm sooooooooo boredddddddd... :( 04:54 VanessaE so build something :) 04:54 NekoGloop Ipad still lolz 04:55 celeron55 the jobs' content consuming machine 04:55 celeron55 to use it as intended, buy an app that makes fart noises from the app store 04:56 NekoGloop Sadly, there is one. 04:56 celeron55 then enjoy your brains shrinking 04:56 NekoGloop The only thing i use this for is youtube and irc away from my comp 04:57 khonkhortisan angry birds 04:57 NekoGloop Beat it 04:57 khonkhortisan three stars? 04:57 khonkhortisan all variations of the game? 04:57 NekoGloop All levels, three stars, eagle as well. 04:57 NekoGloop All games as well. 04:57 khonkhortisan never seen the eagle 04:57 NekoGloop I have waaaay too much time on my hands lol 04:57 khonkhortisan yes a conveyor belt would be an improvement but that's what pipeworks is for 05:00 VanessaE true 05:00 NekoGloop I want the frame motors from redpower 05:01 NekoGloop Not the frames, per se, just the motors 05:03 khonkhortisan what's a good way to start a two-delayer clock? 05:04 NekoGloop With a gentle bump 05:04 VanessaE khonkhortisan: a one-shot timer from a µC 05:04 khonkhortisan a button would be a gentle bump, what it needs is a swift kick 05:04 VanessaE but something needs to start that, too 05:05 NekoGloop Use creative mode 05:05 VanessaE khonkhortisan: why not use the one-µC clock I made? 05:06 khonkhortisan two delayers terminate with both sides on 05:07 NekoGloop Does pushing gravel with a piston make it fall 05:07 VanessaE no 05:07 VanessaE at least when I last tried, it didn't 05:07 NekoGloop I see 05:08 NekoGloop Well you a liar then because i remembered i made a desert sand fall infinitely with a normal up piston just after i said that :D 05:08 VanessaE heh, ok 05:08 VanessaE well when I tried it, it lied to me :) 05:08 NekoGloop Lol 05:09 NekoGloop Maybe the side pistons dont? 05:09 VanessaE it said "Fuck you, this sand stays right here, 3m above the ground." 05:09 VanessaE :-) 05:09 VanessaE actually it was only 1m up :-) 05:09 NekoGloop But any node kinda falls with pistons. 05:09 khonkhortisan haha my tictactoe had a win lockout 05:09 NekoGloop They're kinda awkward. 05:10 * VanessaE tries again 05:11 khonkhortisan redstone only appears above sea level 05:11 * khonkhortisan hides 05:11 VanessaE hey! it works now 05:11 NekoGloop What? 05:11 khonkhortisan but a movestone still drops gravel halfway between two nodes 05:12 NekoGloop That's not even a valid statement for kalite... 05:12 khonkhortisan I thought I had the wrong ore 05:12 NekoGloop That's alatro 05:13 VanessaE NekoGloop: a regular piston does cause a stack of sand to fall 05:13 VanessaE musta been a glitch before 05:13 NekoGloop Awesome 05:13 NekoGloop Now i can destroy sand towers with a single piston and a blinky plant 05:14 khonkhortisan we could have better machines if pistons could move pistons 05:14 NekoGloop Ikr 05:14 NekoGloop No, only sticky pistons need to... 05:15 khonkhortisan you have a square of pistons moving pistons around, then those pistons move stuff 05:15 NekoGloop Ok fine 05:16 khonkhortisan last I tried that it crashed. But that was multiple 10-minute revisions ago. 05:16 VanessaE khonkhortisan: they can 05:16 VanessaE the problem is gettign a signal to the piston that was moved 05:16 VanessaE it's possible but unstable 05:17 VanessaE try this: place a sticky piston next to a regular one. Turn it on. Now place a wire next to the piston that was moved. Now turn the first piston off and the wire will remain in that "connected" position. The you feed a signal to it when the time is right 05:18 khonkhortisan I have a similar problem with autocrossing wires, the regular wires don't always connect right 05:19 NekoGloop The problem is getting the extended arm of the second piston in the line to disappear 05:19 khonkhortisan haha disconnected piston 05:19 khonkhortisan cool I can make a machine that drops piston arms 05:19 khonkhortisan aw I can't push them 05:20 NekoGloop You cant break them either 05:20 khonkhortisan mesecons version of clouds 05:20 khonkhortisan now I just have to get two next to each other 05:30 NekoGloop G'night 05:34 khonkhortisan /set air doesn't recalculate light 05:35 VanessaE khonkhortisan: use //dig 05:35 VanessaE khonkhortisan: also the sensor array *is* going to need separated channels - too much light leaks around the opaque materials for side-by-side channels to work 05:36 khonkhortisan I'm scrapping mechanical, it needs three states to move 05:40 wowiamdiamonds is there any sort of documentation whatsoever for mapgen.lua? I don't even know what I'm doing, sooo lost. 05:48 khonkhortisan a stack of insulated wire doesn't last very long 06:34 VanessaE bbl 08:33 Dan68 I just commented on wikipedia with 5 sources that it appears no one referenced. Bit suprised that the wiki editors didn't come across them, but they are probably stuck using google & are trapped inside a search bubble. My comment is at the bottom of this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Minetest 09:47 celeron55 Dan68: i don't know if any of those are "something that are not blogs" or "something that just repeats an original announcement" (those are pretty much the things wikipedia doesn't trust, and it is very understandable; anyway, somebody should actually cite some relevant information from those 09:47 celeron55 s/;/)/ 09:48 celeron55 in the article itself 09:48 celeron55 the deletion is based on the article, not the discussion 09:49 Dan68 yep 09:50 RealBadAngel hi celeron55, have you been playin with those swappin nodeboxes function anymore? 09:50 Dan68 Well, it seems like the argument is always "there are not enough refrences that this is noteworthy" or "this article is a stub/unmaintained" 09:50 celeron55 RealBadAngel: there's the second version of the branch 09:50 celeron55 RealBadAngel: not more than that 09:51 celeron55 RealBadAngel: http://minetest.net/packages/nightly/minetest-0.4.3-4a11323-meta_set_nodedef-win32.zip 09:51 RealBadAngel ok, i will try it. have you made win build for that? 09:51 celeron55 i don't know if you have tried it 09:51 RealBadAngel oh, you already answered before i asked lol 09:51 RealBadAngel thanks :) 09:51 celeron55 the tool in the minimal game will make any block into stairs 09:51 Dan68 celeron55: wikipedia is a terrible place though, it has become a cesspool of deletionists & power trippers. Not worth putting too much effort into it 09:52 celeron55 you might want to copy it to minetest_game and test it in a new world 09:52 celeron55 Dan68: i think wikipedia is just fine; they do those things for a reason 09:52 RealBadAngel sure. i just finish alloy furnace and will go play with it 09:52 celeron55 Dan68: it is perfectly true that minetest isn't particularly popular 09:53 Dan68 celeron55: it does have a fair bit written on it though 09:53 celeron55 and mostly the lack of news is because there haven't been huge sensational releases 09:53 celeron55 all happens so gradually nobody has any news 09:53 Dan68 celeron55: mhmm 09:53 RealBadAngel but it happens constantly 09:54 Dan68 there are a few articles beyond what I psted out there if ya dig. 09:54 celeron55 or, well, there are news all the time, but they're like "added the function foo to API and some unused items" 09:54 RealBadAngel take the game half a yr back and now 09:54 Dan68 lolyep celero55 09:54 celeron55 Dan68: yeah, but they're very unknown blogs and that 09:54 celeron55 they don't matter to wikipedia, again for a reason 09:54 Dan68 celeron55: eh, it depends 09:54 celeron55 some of them *are* more than that though 09:55 RealBadAngel so we just need to look for a ways to make the game a bit more known 09:55 Dan68 celeron55: you can make an argument if you have at least 3 good refrences, which we do have between those 5 I posted 09:56 Dan68 2 of those were just regurgitating blogs that added a little bit of oppinion 09:56 celeron55 Dan68: i posted one site too (a very considerable one); altough i don't understand anything of them because they're russian 8) 09:56 Dan68 lolyep 09:56 celeron55 anyway, the thing to do is reference information in the article properly from them 09:56 celeron55 otherwise the article is going to go 09:57 celeron55 that way maybe not 09:57 Dan68 yep 10:20 wei2912 celeron55, thought i saw minetest on some wellknown website 10:21 wei2912 sigh 10:21 wei2912 it was lkubuntu 10:34 Matsetes Hi, I have some problems with skyblok mod 10:35 Matsetes Anybody can answer me? 10:35 RealBadAngel depends, try us 10:35 Keegann what's the error 10:37 Matsetes I can't dig the tree 10:37 Matsetes I have no items 10:37 Matsetes And with hand is impossible 10:39 Keegann singleplayer? 10:39 Matsetes No 10:39 Matsetes I have to? 10:40 Keegann what server? 10:40 Matsetes No, I'm in local, but with advanced 10:41 Keegann so u can't dig anything? 10:42 Matsetes No, only the tree 10:42 Matsetes Ah, now it gave me a piece of wood for placing the sapling 10:42 Matsetes But it's the first time 10:43 Matsetes With the wooden axe I can dig it 10:58 RealBadAngel oke doke, Alloy Furnace is added 10:59 RealBadAngel its also first machine with API function to register own alloys 11:08 Matsetes Boh, I write for this bug into the mod forum 11:19 RealBadAngel wait for cornernote, he can surely help ya 11:48 * Calinou got mail from wikipedia, new stuff on their user talk by a guy who wants deletion of minetest page 11:48 Calinou BRACE YOURSELVES 11:48 Calinou A GRADUATE IS TROLLING YOU 11:50 OldCoder Calinou, you wrote pretty well except for the "fanboy" etc. remarks. They'll use those against MT. I've talked to a MC friend BTW about supporting MT but he doesn't care about Wikipedia. 11:50 Calinou we do indeed have fanboys everywhere 11:50 OldCoder No 11:51 OldCoder I meant the remarks about "MC fanboys". 11:51 Calinou remember the gameboom server being griefed back in october 2011? those were minecraft fanboys 11:51 OldCoder IIRC 11:51 OldCoder I wouldn't know; wasn't here at the time. But I'd look for more people to comment. 11:51 Calinou still; I bet the page will be deleted 11:52 OldCoder Possibly. In which case MC and MT are likely to be at war. 11:52 Calinou what annoys me is the "COI" thingie 11:52 OldCoder Yes 11:53 celeron55 it's perfectly valid 11:53 OldCoder Valid is a technical term 11:54 OldCoder He is referring to how he feels 11:54 Calinou let's tell an ubuntu user to make packages for arch 11:54 Calinou YAY, no COI here, neutrality FTW! 11:54 celeron55 calinou's flameraw in the deletion discussion isn't doing any good to anything 11:54 celeron55 war* 11:54 OldCoder As I noted above. 11:55 OldCoder VanessaE indicates she'll leave WP. I don't blame her. I did years ago. 11:55 celeron55 what the fuck people 11:55 celeron55 there is nothing wrong in deleting the article 11:56 OldCoder Again... 11:56 OldCoder Feelings are involved. 11:56 celeron55 feelings shouldn't be involved 11:56 * OldCoder considers 11:56 OldCoder I won't take a position on that one way or the other for now. Feelings that is. 12:00 celeron55 somebody mentioned minicraft in the discussion 12:00 celeron55 just check the references of it 12:01 celeron55 it has, like, tens of the most popular game news sites 12:01 OldCoder Whoa 12:02 celeron55 if you try to find a game on google that has roughly the same number of search results as minetest, you find tuxracer 12:02 celeron55 but check the references 12:03 OldCoder Search results versus references. Comment further if possible. 12:04 celeron55 i mean, there is a genereally disproportionate amount of coverage on regular news site about minetest compared to the information available about it 12:04 celeron55 -e 12:04 celeron55 +s 12:05 celeron55 that is, much less news than information 12:05 Calinou found better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverball 12:05 OldCoder Oh, yes 12:05 Calinou you'll have an hard time finding sources 12:06 Calinou I can file an AfD for this and win 12:06 Calinou THIS IS FUN 12:06 OldCoder Do it 12:06 OldCoder Dooooooooooooo eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet :-) 12:06 Calinou lol, no. I'm not a moron 12:06 Calinou [read: I'm not graduate] 12:06 OldCoder If you could connect the two AfDs you'd make a point 12:07 celeron55 Calinou: it has 1.4 million hits on google 12:07 OldCoder Regardless are either you adding to the current discussion? 12:07 celeron55 there sure are more appropriate articles about it 12:07 OldCoder I haven't gone back since yesterday 12:07 Calinou and only two sources on wikipedia 12:07 celeron55 somebody'll just add one 12:08 OldCoder I need to look at other FOSS projects in WP. That issue nags at me. How can FOSS projects, in effect, be denied en masse? 12:08 OldCoder WP is a FOSS project 12:08 * Calinou upvotes OldCoder for using french expression 12:08 Calinou true 12:09 OldCoder Is WP notable? 12:09 OldCoder Or, rather, was it early on? 12:09 Kray why do you think being FOSS a project would have any effect in whether or not Wikipedia keeps an article about it? 12:10 celeron55 you are just having an odd view on how wikipedia works; wikipedia has always worked on the basis of including stuff that is considerably popular 12:10 celeron55 always when you see an article on wikipedia, it is there because of that 12:10 celeron55 not because wikipedia is friends with it 12:10 OldCoder Point I'm thinking about isn't as simple as FOSS == notable. I'll need to consider further. 12:11 OldCoder But I gave up on WP after a fascinating incident some years ago. Google about the naked shorting scandal if you're not familiar with it. 12:12 OldCoder I watched a trial behind the scenes where somebody who helped steal millions of dollars was acquitted of being who he was. The best part was, if it was true, that Slim Virgin's lover was on the other side. 12:12 OldCoder They need to make a movie. 12:12 * OldCoder shrugs 12:12 * OldCoder back in 15 minutes 12:13 celeron55 world is shit, money is that², deal with it 8) 12:17 Calinou wikipedia is a /free/ encylopedia, usually it /supports/ FOSS 12:17 Calinou recently it hasn't 12:17 Calinou at all 12:20 celeron55 you'll have hard time proving it actively discourages FOSS 12:21 celeron55 i'm relatively sure it tries to be fair according to the established rules 12:22 Calinou still; the AfD request thingie is unfair; in case they lose, they get nothing, they are not punished 12:22 Calinou this would let one fill AfD requests for lots of articles without even being punished 12:22 celeron55 if they lose, we pretty much get an infinite pass to be on wikipedia 12:23 Calinou in case minetest article is deleted; we (vanessae, rubenwardy, me) wasted time 12:23 Calinou this is wikipedia's main flaw: making people waste time, in things such as edit conflicts 12:23 celeron55 i belive in that not all work is valuable 12:23 celeron55 and the world is unfair 12:23 celeron55 sometimes (even usually) you end up seeing all you did was just useless 12:24 Calinou agree 12:24 Calinou very often actually :P 12:24 celeron55 you can learn something usually from that though 12:33 OldCoder Indeed to all of the above. 12:33 OldCoder Deletionists suck 12:33 OldCoder <---- Does not feel the need to be 100% mature 100% of the time 12:34 * Calinou makes deletionists eat their barnstars 12:34 Calinou they'll all suffocate, they have so much of them 12:34 OldCoder Amusing MP3 coming if I can find a quick host 12:39 OldCoder http://swithu.com/v-Wikipirates-mhho0hw5l8 12:39 OldCoder 12:41 OldCoder "Web pages are in short supply and what if we run out?" 12:44 M13 Hello 12:44 M13 Need help 12:44 M13 can anyone help? 12:45 RealBadAngel with? 12:45 M13 Compiling Minetest on Windows :P 12:45 M13 I booted Windows :P 12:45 RealBadAngel so just follow the steps in howto 12:46 M13 i did and this came op 12:46 M13 up* 12:46 M13 it couldnt find libgmp-10.dll 12:47 RealBadAngel http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6951938/libgmp-10-dll-is-missing 12:50 M13 how do i change the path variables 12:50 M13 srry Linux user not Windows :P 12:53 M13 fixed it 12:53 M13 copyed the dll files in the main folder :P 12:54 M13 nope taht didnt work :P 12:54 RealBadAngel http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000549.htm 12:54 RealBadAngel have linux users ever heard of google? 12:56 Calinou ubuntu users haven't 12:59 M13 nope 12:59 M13 no need 13:00 M13 how do i set the system path, what do i name it? 13:00 M13 Path 13:01 M13 this is stupid 13:01 Calinou windows is stupid 13:01 Calinou true 13:02 M13 i need to compile my Fork for Windows! 13:02 M13 Calinou: what do i name the path to MinGW 13:03 RealBadAngel have your read links i posted you? 13:03 RealBadAngel all answers r there 13:03 M13 yes 13:03 RealBadAngel no you didnt 13:03 Calinou M13, you can compile for windows under linux 13:03 RealBadAngel try again 13:04 M13 Not my Version 13:04 M13 Not new makefile 13:04 RealBadAngel what windows do you have/ 13:04 RealBadAngel ? 13:04 M13 XP 13:05 M13 M13, you can compile for windows under linux : how? 13:05 RealBadAngel Windows XP 13:05 RealBadAngel Start -> Control Panel -> System -> Advanced 13:05 RealBadAngel Click on Environment Variables, under System Variables, find PATH, and click on it. 13:05 RealBadAngel In the Edit windows, modify PATH by adding the location of the class to the value for PATH. If you do not have the item PATH, you may select to add a new variable and add PATH as the name and the location of the class as the value. 13:05 RealBadAngel Close the window. 13:06 RealBadAngel hi neko 13:06 NekoGloop Good mornin' 13:07 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, check whats new in technic 13:08 Calinou M13, I have no idea how though 13:09 M13 what do i name the path? 13:09 M13 got the path for the path 13:10 NekoGloop Wouldnt height-based production make more sense with a wind turbine...? 13:10 RealBadAngel that also is sensible 13:10 M13 o what do i nme the Variable? 13:10 RealBadAngel for example c:\example 13:11 M13 not the path 13:11 M13 the variable name 13:12 RealBadAngel http://www.mingw.org/wiki/InstallationHOWTOforMinGW 13:12 RealBadAngel The whole C:\MinGW subtree is fully relocatable which means there can be several different versions of the MinGW toolchain installed in parallel, e.g. in directories C:\MinGW-3.4.5 and C:\MinGW-4.5.2. Switching between these is merely a matter of renaming directories, assuming C:\MinGW\bin; has been added to the path. You can permanently add C:\MinGW\bin by following the instructions at Environment Settings. 13:13 NekoGloop Oh. My. God. 13:14 NekoGloop Was it neccessary to paste that in the chat? 13:15 RealBadAngel for ubuntu users yes 13:15 RealBadAngel they do not know what google is 13:15 NekoGloop Apparently 13:15 NekoGloop I at least google first 13:16 NekoGloop If i cant find it on the first 2-3 pages, then i ask 13:17 RealBadAngel ive added alloy furnace 13:17 RealBadAngel and function to register alloys from outside 13:17 NekoGloop I saw you added the furnace 13:17 NekoGloop But i'm on my ipad so you may have to wait a bit lol 13:17 RealBadAngel im doing now the same for grinder 13:19 M13 ok 13:19 M13 i did the 13:20 M13 path and now im going to compile :P 13:20 RealBadAngel hooray 13:21 M13 IT WORKS 13:21 RealBadAngel HOORAY 13:21 M13 thnx so much RealBadAngel 13:21 NekoGloop Oooh, big surprise xD 13:21 RealBadAngel np, but in the future feel free to ask uncle google first 13:22 M13 i got errors but i think thats normal in the configureation 13:22 M13 thats what the howto says 13:27 M13 ERRORs 13:27 OldCoder M13, see PM for link 13:27 M13 we have a problem bob 13:27 M13 ok 13:27 M13 PM it 13:27 OldCoder M13, PM'd it at 11:00pm last night as promised 13:28 M13 no i logged out 13:28 OldCoder All right 13:28 OldCoder Busy elsewhere but will return here in a bit 13:28 M13 k 13:34 M13 do you understand this error, get it when i try to compile on Windows : http://pastebin.com/kuJtLpyf 13:35 Calinou poor guy has missing dependancies 13:35 M13 yes :( 13:35 Calinou you need irrlicht :p 13:35 NekoGloop Compile on windows? 13:35 NekoGloop Pfft leave that to sfan 13:35 Calinou gettext is optional 13:35 M13 i have it in the dir 13:36 M13 what dir does it need to be in? 13:37 RealBadAngel try to install irrlicht, it may help 13:38 M13 is there a exe. for windows or do i need to do it manually 13:39 M13 ill make a path to it in the CMakeLists.txt 13:40 RealBadAngel http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1434 13:40 RealBadAngel heres complete guide on how to compile it 13:40 NekoGloop How about... Sfan's build...? 13:41 RealBadAngel hes compilin some old version i guess 13:41 thexyz well, i guess nobody here uses windows so there's no need in windows build 13:42 RealBadAngel i do 13:42 RealBadAngel but sfans builds r okay 13:43 NekoGloop And i use windows, so does 2cool 13:43 thexyz um.. 13:44 thexyz i thought windows users are used to suffering 13:44 NekoGloop Nope 13:45 NekoGloop 1) i have never seen a bsod. 13:45 thexyz lol 13:45 NekoGloop 2) windows has always run fast (on this computer, where my hard drive isnt full xD) 13:46 NekoGloop Or, rather, the computer in the other room, as i'm on my ipad xD 13:46 RealBadAngel ive seen a bsod once in berlin in machine selling s-bahn tickets 13:46 RealBadAngel that was fun :) 13:46 thexyz NekoGloop: oh, i guess, you're definetly used to suffering ^^ 13:46 NekoGloop thexyz: How so? 13:46 thexyz what do you use iPad for? 13:47 NekoGloop Irc & youtube when i'm too lazy to go in my computer room. 13:47 thexyz is that all? 13:48 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Once, in a meijer, a price scanner was showing a windows desktop. 13:48 NekoGloop thexyz: Pretty much, yeah xD 13:48 M13 xyz 13:48 M13 can you compile on windows? 13:48 M13 or cross-compile 13:48 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 13:48 NekoGloop That's like asking a door to let light through 13:49 thexyz M13: yes, i can 13:49 RealBadAngel hi PilzAdam 13:49 thexyz but i don't have any windows license now =( 13:49 RealBadAngel google for it ;) 13:49 NekoGloop That implies you want one, which i know is not the case. 13:50 thexyz NekoGloop: if you can give me one for free i'll take it 13:50 NekoGloop Yeah right. 13:51 thexyz windows is damn expensive, isn't it? 13:51 thexyz the cheapest version seems to be $119.99 13:51 NekoGloop Depends, are you getting 7(the crashfest) or xp(the one that actually works)? 13:51 thexyz well, now you can easily buy android pc/tv-box for $40-$60 13:52 NekoGloop 7 is a helluva lot more expensive than xp nowadays 13:52 thexyz NekoGloop: i thought i can't buy xp now 13:53 thexyz > Monday, June 30th is the last day to buy the retail version of Windows XP. Microsoft will continue to support Windows XP until 2014 but users will no longer be able to purchase it with a new computer or in a retail store. 13:54 NekoGloop I see 13:54 NekoGloop Funny, i got my computer on june 30th 13:54 NekoGloop Look on ebay. 13:55 NekoGloop Or amazon, they may have one 13:55 thexyz anyway, i don't want to spend my money on it 13:57 thexyz because then i'd need to buy an antivirus and some other shit 13:58 frogcrush Go Windows 8 13:59 frogcrush :D 14:00 NekoGloop I dont have an antivirus 14:00 * PilzAdam starts to hack NekoGloop computer 14:00 NekoGloop Yeah right 14:01 thexyz that's nice 14:01 thexyz but i don't want to give out my passwords/ssh access/credit card information/etc 14:07 thexyz have anybody already griefed landmine's server? 14:07 NekoGloop Probably 14:09 celeron55 windows 7 *is* pretty stable and runs well on modern hardware though 14:09 celeron55 the newest i've owned is xp though 14:09 PilzAdam what hardware are you talking about? 14:09 PilzAdam not mine i guess 14:10 thexyz PilzAdam: "modern hardware" 14:10 celeron55 well, a multi-gigahertz multicore processor and gigabytes of RAM 14:10 PilzAdam i have "modern" hardware 14:10 thexyz what's your specs? 14:11 PilzAdam intel core i7 ~2GHz (dunno exatcly) and 4 GB RAM 14:11 NekoGloop Yeah, 7 and vista waste the resources of the computers 14:11 celeron55 PilzAdam: and you are saying windows 7 runs badly? 14:11 thexyz well, i have i5-2400 & 8 gb of ddr3 ram 14:11 thexyz never have tried w7 on that 14:11 PilzAdam celeron55, blue screens every week 14:11 thexyz or any windows 14:11 celeron55 i've used w7 on such machines in work, and they work fine 14:12 celeron55 PilzAdam: sounds like broken HW and/or drivers, buy quality stuff 14:12 PilzAdam now, there was a bug in x86 version of win 7 14:12 PilzAdam -w 14:13 thexyz ecube: for example, there is pink dye but it isn't declared in basecolors/excolors 14:14 celeron55 currently i use windows 7 on an i5 or i7 or whatever laptop (i don't even know, doesn't matter) but i mainly run debian in a virtual machine in it (actually, a couple of them) and use it in fullscreen 8) 14:14 celeron55 in work, that is 14:14 PilzAdam i use a win 7 /kubuntu dualboot 14:14 Calinou you use debian? thought you used arch usually 14:15 celeron55 i use arch pretty much only on one single machine 14:15 celeron55 everything else is debian 14:17 * Calinou managed to crash minetest using trampoline mod 14:17 Calinou put two trampolines at max strength one below another (2 block space between) 14:17 Calinou wait a few seconds > crash, and my Y coordinate was something like 2 billion 14:18 NekoGloop I edited the bouncyness of them all 14:18 NekoGloop First setting is equal to your max 14:18 NekoGloop Max setting is massive 14:19 PilzAdam celeron55, german minetest wiki article: there are some non-minetest wikipedians wich improve the article; so i guess its not going to be deleted 14:51 * PilzAdam gtg because armored kill is out 14:57 celeron55 quite expensive 14:57 jordach hm? 14:57 celeron55 * PilzAdam gtg because armored kill is out 14:58 jordach aye 14:59 celeron55 if you have too much money to throw at things, i guess it's worth wasting some time on though 15:02 jordach of course. 15:09 jordach celeron55, have you considered my apple tree fix? 15:29 cisoun wtf github 15:29 cisoun seems broken 15:31 Jeija https://status.github.com/ it is and it also was the last few days 15:31 jordach Page did not respond in a timely fashion. 15:32 jordach cisoun, may i ask what are you after? 15:34 thexyz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3005 15:35 Calinou twin towers, github version :p 15:35 cisoun taking news about the repos I'm looking forward 15:35 jordach Calinou, no trolling# 15:36 cisoun Calinou: /o\ 15:36 cisoun I think I'm gonna set up a git repository on my raspberry pi... 15:37 jordach We've taken a bad DB down and are working to return the DB cluster to a normal state now. : THANKS. 15:39 RealBadAngel shit, and im just updatin lotsa stuff with my mod :( 15:41 thexyz well, simple advice: don't depend on github ^^ 15:41 RealBadAngel im partially depended on github 15:42 cisoun self-hosting ftw 15:42 thexyz cisoun: +1 15:42 thexyz that's what i use as for now http://i.imgur.com/hzYck.png 15:42 RealBadAngel all the sources are stored on my server, im using github to sync to it, and for easily packaging 15:44 cisoun thexyz: holy shit !! You're using gitlab ? I gave up, was to difficult to set up... 15:44 thexyz cisoun: yep, it was not that hard to set up ;) 15:44 cisoun which distro do you use ? 15:44 jordach debian. 15:44 thexyz debian 15:45 thexyz Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 15:45 cisoun did you read a tutorial to set it up ? 15:45 cisoun if yes, where ? 15:45 thexyz yep 15:45 cisoun the only ones I found where so much long... 15:45 thexyz well, https://github.com/gitlabhq/gitlabhq/blob/stable/doc/installation.md 15:45 thexyz which is down now 15:45 Calinou thexyz uses arch, no? 15:45 cisoun haha fail 15:46 thexyz Calinou: not on my server 15:46 Calinou k 15:46 thexyz and i switched to gentoo not so long time ago 15:46 cisoun well, cgit is not bad too. 15:46 cisoun I'm using it now. 15:47 thexyz cisoun: btw, what was your problem? 15:48 cisoun https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gitlab TL;DR 15:48 cisoun cgit/gitlist are good enough. 15:48 thexyz lolwtf 15:48 thexyz official instruction is much shorter 15:49 cisoun uh... 15:50 cisoun the funny thing is... they put the gitlab source code... ON GITHUB 15:50 cisoun meh 15:51 cisoun They have should make a gitlab server and put the code on it. 15:51 thexyz there seems to be no public projects support in gitlab 15:52 cisoun Seems good though. 15:53 frogcrush Anyone know of Minetest running on a Pi? 15:55 thexyz frogcrush: somebody 15:55 thexyz damn 15:55 thexyz read this http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1903 15:56 Jeija Client: no Server: yes (client at least not playable, server is slow) 15:57 * jordach waits for gthub to work 15:57 * jordach playes black ops 15:58 VanessaE hi all 15:58 rubenwardy hi 15:59 rubenwardy for some reason my internet does not work, yet i can still talk to you... 15:59 jordach meh 16:00 jordach rubenwardy im on bt internet, so id get it too 16:00 rubenwardy right now? 16:00 VanessaE well remember the net is more than just web pages 16:01 rubenwardy i have resmon.exe up, and it is surprising the amount of network using programs... 16:02 rubenwardy Pidgin says: (msn account) "Connection error from Notification server: 16:02 rubenwardy Windows socket error #10013" 16:02 VanessaE for me, it's web, irc, weather applet, network time daemon, git when I'm using that, ... 16:03 VanessaE plus all the random shit that comes in from malware, hackers, etc. 16:04 rubenwardy1 great, in chat twice 16:04 rubenwardy1 it works! 16:04 RealBadAngel hi Vanessa 16:04 VanessaE hey RBA 16:05 RealBadAngel i just started to add stuff to mod and github died :( 16:05 VanessaE so I read 16:06 RealBadAngel ive added alloy furnace, lots of items, crafting recipes for tubes 16:06 RealBadAngel im about to add mining drill 16:07 RealBadAngel and initial support for tubes 16:07 RealBadAngel thats the plan for today 16:08 RealBadAngel meanwhile i need to write api functions for loading tools, grinder and powering machines 16:09 RealBadAngel with alloy furnace already anyone can add own recipes 16:09 VanessaE (I try to make a point to read channel backlog when I return) 16:09 VanessaE cool 16:09 RealBadAngel you should like it 16:09 RealBadAngel its possible to smelt stuff in different ratios 16:11 VanessaE so like 3 iron + 1 zinc -> stainless steel 16:11 VanessaE er not zinc 16:11 VanessaE chromium 16:11 RealBadAngel hehe yes 16:12 RealBadAngel ive made a few recipes already 16:12 RealBadAngel and found use for those funny red/green/blue diamond blocks 16:13 RealBadAngel they become energy crystals 16:17 VanessaE cool 16:23 * khonkhortisan heard the word zinc 16:26 RealBadAngel you can check recipes in topic. not everythin is yet uploaded, coz github down 16:26 RealBadAngel but all the crafting i just finished 16:29 VanessaE bbl 16:30 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, ive released today alloy furnace, so you can mix metals materials here as you wish 16:31 RealBadAngel other mods can use also to define own alloys 16:31 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: getting newest technic now 16:31 RealBadAngel its updating all the time 16:32 RealBadAngel but dl it, in a moment mining drill will be aviable 16:32 NekoGloop I'm assuming since the colored diamond blocks are now called energy crystals, they give off low amounts of electricity? 16:32 RealBadAngel they will be higher tier batteries 16:32 NekoGloop ah, i see. 16:32 NekoGloop really expesive batteries xD 16:33 RealBadAngel RE battery is 40k, red crystal 80, green 400k, blue 1kk 16:33 NekoGloop oh i see, they grow off of each other... 16:33 NekoGloop 1kk == 1mil? 16:33 RealBadAngel yes 16:34 NekoGloop and pipeworks, do they have a use? 16:34 RealBadAngel today i will upload 1 or two machines using it 16:34 NekoGloop ok 16:34 RealBadAngel now im finishing mining drill 16:34 NekoGloop best to use the "machines" already in the pipeworks. 16:34 NekoGloop just give them a use. 16:34 RealBadAngel need to allow to load it 16:35 NekoGloop mining drill... hm, can we eventually have a deployer? 16:35 RealBadAngel and block breaker too 16:35 NekoGloop (the redpower thing that uses a tool for you, i think it was a deployer) 16:35 RealBadAngel not really 16:36 RealBadAngel it can take a seed, sapling, node 16:36 RealBadAngel at place if for ya 16:36 NekoGloop oh... 16:36 NekoGloop what was the redpower thing that uses a tool though...? 16:36 RealBadAngel block breaker 16:36 NekoGloop i see 16:36 RealBadAngel with logic signal it acts like player with a pickaxe 16:37 NekoGloop oh, ok. 16:37 RealBadAngel and item is sent into the tubes 16:37 NekoGloop on that note, do any machines use mesecons yet? 16:37 RealBadAngel not yet 16:37 NekoGloop hm... 16:38 RealBadAngel ive done all the 1st tier machines, now have to provide api for all of them 16:38 NekoGloop actually, to effectively use it, you might have to rewrite mesecons 16:38 RealBadAngel no 16:38 RealBadAngel i will just register my machines as effectors 16:38 NekoGloop but i dont want my machines to require a mesecons signal 16:39 RealBadAngel you will c, with that fun will just start 16:39 NekoGloop oh, and is it possible to make a machine that sends a mesecon signal? uses low amounts of power, etc. 16:40 NekoGloop as soon as your mining drill is finished, i'll download 16:40 RealBadAngel possible. like for example coal driven generator when low on fuel can send mesecon signal to deployer to send some fuel 16:41 NekoGloop nonono... i mean a machine that does that and only that 16:41 RealBadAngel with api you will be able to create such machine 16:41 NekoGloop cool 16:42 RealBadAngel back to coding, need to make it load 16:42 RealBadAngel brb 16:42 NekoGloop ah, it isnt recognized by the batbox as a electric device? 16:48 RealBadAngel it is now, uploading it now 16:49 RealBadAngel done, you can download 16:50 NekoGloop pawseome 16:51 RealBadAngel reload it, had to push one small fix 16:53 NekoGloop now lets reinstall pipeworks because i had to remove its check for technic 16:53 PilzAdam armored kill is aweseome!!! 16:53 NekoGloop wha...? 16:54 NekoGloop anyway, I'll eventually add technic dust support to gloopores. 16:54 NekoGloop emphasis on eventually 16:54 RealBadAngel hehe 16:54 NekoGloop because you need to do grinder first :D 16:55 NekoGloop grinder api, even 16:55 RealBadAngel ill will start with it right now 16:55 NekoGloop actually, if i manage that, do i win internets? :D 16:55 Mikeonline hio 16:55 RealBadAngel shouldnt be hard, since api for alloy is done 16:56 NekoGloop i should have done my creative mode world xD 16:56 NekoGloop actually i will :P 16:56 RealBadAngel ive changed at last solar panels recipe 16:56 NekoGloop i saw that. 16:57 RealBadAngel it much harder to build them now 16:57 NekoGloop i saw xD 16:57 NekoGloop cant you make them -not- use mithril? 16:58 RealBadAngel so dope silicons wafer with hmmm dirt to be easier? ;) 16:58 NekoGloop hm... 16:58 NekoGloop use gloopores talinite 16:58 NekoGloop it doesnt have enough uses ;) 17:00 RealBadAngel you will be able to define recipes for it 17:00 RealBadAngel in fact you already can 17:01 NekoGloop well i mean for the solar panel 17:01 NekoGloop but you dont want much more dependencies... so idk 17:01 RealBadAngel take wafer and dope it with somethin other 17:02 NekoGloop well, i was gonna do that with kalite. Kalite is supposed to be the odd one out of my ores. xD 17:02 RealBadAngel register_alloy_recipe ("technic:silicon_wafer",1, "gloopores:kalite",3, "technic:doped_silicon_wafer",1) 17:02 RealBadAngel try it, shall work 17:02 NekoGloop gloopores:kaite_lump ;) 17:02 NekoGloop lol fail 17:02 NekoGloop gloopores:kalite_lump 17:02 NekoGloop there we go xD 17:02 RealBadAngel test it, wonder if it gonna work 17:03 NekoGloop assuming you didnt misspell anything, yeah 17:03 NekoGloop gonna test what you have though 17:03 NekoGloop btw: EWWWWW you reverted the dust graphics 17:03 RealBadAngel they were lookin like shit 17:03 RealBadAngel i restored old ones 17:06 NekoGloop alloy furnace seems slow 17:06 NekoGloop but... HUZZAH 17:07 NekoGloop I HAVE BRONZE DUST!! 17:09 NekoGloop this may also come in handy with my sword adding mod, maybe cooking some kind of material INTO the swords 17:10 khonkhortisan diamond dust sword 17:10 khonkhortisan sandpaper 17:10 RealBadAngel im almost done with api for grinder, 10 minutes 17:11 * PilzAdam is back 17:11 NekoGloop lol 17:11 NekoGloop mining drill fortunatly cant go overkill and rape the landscape with its power 17:11 khonkhortisan colored wood when hit with sandpaper = wood 17:12 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, 1st tier of it has not so much capacity 17:12 RealBadAngel but its damn fast 17:12 NekoGloop i know 17:13 NekoGloop i mean you cant hold the button and kill the world 17:13 RealBadAngel yeah, i try to make them fun to use, but not bein extremaly overpowered 17:13 NekoGloop its like those times that you're just like: I'm pretty sure that's a bug, but it's awesome 17:14 * jordach recompiles fork with 0.4 texture support 17:15 NekoGloop so, what, does it just rip through any block? 17:20 NekoGloop Me: wtf mining pick stopped working Minetest: you idiot, it ran out of juice... 17:21 Mikeonline hm 17:25 NekoGloop geothermal, y u need water D: 17:27 Mikeonline is there a setting for max rollback time/items? 17:28 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, example: register_grinder_recipe("moreores:mithril_lump","technic:mithril_dust 2") 17:28 NekoGloop makes sense 17:29 RealBadAngel you can add your own now 17:29 NekoGloop YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS 17:29 NekoGloop yesterday i made a comment i think you'll like (or not) 17:30 RealBadAngel where? 17:30 NekoGloop mesecons = 10 mins later its out of date, technic = 5 years later, still latest version 17:30 RealBadAngel :P 17:31 NekoGloop dude, you seriously dont need to make it completely working before you upload 17:31 NekoGloop because when you do that, it's a guarentee something will go wrong 8) 17:31 RealBadAngel last week i had a little time to cod 17:31 RealBadAngel code 17:31 RealBadAngel today im sittin whole day n workin 17:31 PilzAdam bäääää cod 17:31 NekoGloop now do main API :D 17:32 RealBadAngel now loading tools api 17:32 NekoGloop if any of your code made any sense to me, I'd do it myself xD 17:32 RealBadAngel battery box main ABM is getting too long without it 17:33 NekoGloop i'd imagine so 17:33 RealBadAngel and i need to add loading for crystals too 17:33 NekoGloop with 30 batboxes on this circuit, my minetest lags immensely xD 17:33 jordach PilzAdam, what about call of duty? 17:33 RealBadAngel thats why you will want to upgrade your batboxes 17:34 PilzAdam jordach, bäääääää 17:34 NekoGloop well i want all those slots to plug batteries, lasers, and drills in 17:34 * jordach bleats like a sheep 17:34 RealBadAngel why keep 30 of low capacity when 1 of 3rd tier will be offernig more? 17:35 NekoGloop if they have extra loading/unloading docks, maybe 17:35 RealBadAngel like 2 slots for charghin, 5 times fater load time 17:35 RealBadAngel etc :) 17:35 NekoGloop well i'll upgrade then 17:35 NekoGloop but not yet, because they dont work ;) 17:36 RealBadAngel as i said, i do have all basic stuff done, now just to make better versions 17:36 NekoGloop "on_place_on_ground = minetest.craftitem_place_item" um... derp? 17:37 RealBadAngel honestly i dont know whats that, copied that from somwhere in the very beginings ;) 17:37 RealBadAngel and it lives now on its own 17:37 NekoGloop from dusts 17:39 RealBadAngel ok, so lets start with another api function 17:39 RealBadAngel btw, tested grinder registration? 17:40 NekoGloop not yet 17:40 NekoGloop workin on it 17:40 NekoGloop aaaactually... 17:40 NekoGloop akalin has about nil uses... 17:40 NekoGloop let's give it some >:D 17:40 RealBadAngel hehehe 17:40 NekoGloop you can make fancy blocks atm 17:40 NekoGloop dat's it, sadly xD 17:43 NekoGloop where is the silicon recipe registered? 17:43 NekoGloop It's most certainly not in the alloy furnace. 17:44 NekoGloop and solar panel recipe is the same... 17:45 NekoGloop do you even check these things xD 17:48 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Maybe upload the one WITH all the stuff? :3 17:49 RealBadAngel im checkin it 17:49 NekoGloop where did you shove the silicon recipe lol 17:49 NekoGloop btw: a pointer: dont limit how low you can find an ore 17:50 RealBadAngel with solar panel there was a pause because of github down 17:50 RealBadAngel its uploading rite now 17:50 NekoGloop lol 17:50 RealBadAngel just forgot 17:50 NekoGloop and same for silicon? 17:51 RealBadAngel silicon is in alloy furnace 17:51 NekoGloop nope 17:51 RealBadAngel its an alloy of sand and coal 17:51 NekoGloop i see stainless steel, and both bronze recipes 17:52 NekoGloop no silicon 17:52 NekoGloop or do you mean the abm for the alloy furnace itself? 17:52 RealBadAngel damm it ;) 17:52 RealBadAngel uploading 17:53 RealBadAngel both fixes up 17:56 NekoGloop damn, i gtg 18:12 PilzAdam gtg 18:12 PilzAdam bye 18:12 jordach sfan5, i have decided to change my fork overview to 0.3.2 18:12 jordach and work from there 18:12 sfan5 ok 18:13 jordach i can easily update for wool 18:13 jordach since they look the same as 0.2 18:41 RealBadAngel im also going off, need a nap 18:42 khonkhortisan RBAfk 18:44 mika__ hi 18:50 iqualfragile moin 19:04 frogcrush Hi, I'm getting an error while trying to log my brother in; the error is Some exception: "Access " on his PC and a failed to emerge player on my server 19:05 frogcrush Version is 0.4.3 19:07 khonkhortisan what does it say in the terminal? 19:07 khonkhortisan for his client? 19:07 frogcrush jas 19:07 frogcrush Access violation at 01239713 write?=0 address=0 19:08 frogcrush there are five and then the exception 19:08 jordach running direct3d 19:08 * jordach gives up 19:12 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/aXuax.png 19:14 khonkhortisan I haven't gotten that error before | I like the canvas 19:14 cisoun thexyz: dafuq 19:14 cisoun can you really paint ? 19:14 thexyz ? 19:14 khonkhortisan yep 19:14 thexyz yep 19:14 khonkhortisan canvas mod 19:14 cisoun waaaat 19:15 khonkhortisan or painting mod, whatever it's called 19:15 thexyz there's mod by jin_xi 19:15 thexyz called painting 19:15 cisoun so we can make writable signs like in minecraft ! 19:15 cisoun daaaaaang 19:15 thexyz here's my more-up-to-date fork https://github.com/xyzz/painting 19:15 khonkhortisan no writable signs is a different mod 19:15 thexyz cisoun: there's also my signs mod 19:15 cisoun Ok... I'm a retard. 19:15 thexyz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2736 19:15 cisoun I haven't seen the last mods... 19:30 iqualfragile cisoun: but one cant simply use the signgs-mod because its stuffed into a single repos together with all the other mods made by thexyz 19:33 iqualfragile thexyz: that also makes it had to fork just one single mod… 19:33 thexyz maybe 19:34 thexyz but i'm too selfish to change this 19:35 iqualfragile it allso makes it hard to see if this one specific mod im interested in has been changed 19:36 thexyz yep 19:37 iqualfragile so please change it 19:37 thexyz nope, atm i like this structure 19:38 thexyz it's convenient for my minetest.ru server 19:41 iqualfragile the other structure would not be much different 19:41 thexyz i'll have shitload of repos 19:42 iqualfragile what does that change? 19:42 thexyz then i'll need to add each repo to my minetest-ru's repo as dependency 19:42 thexyz i mean, as submodule 19:42 iqualfragile i dont think so… 19:42 iqualfragile you would just need to go into your mods/minetest directory 19:43 iqualfragile clone all the mods, one after another from github 19:43 iqualfragile and you are done, arent you? 19:43 thexyz you don't understand my structure 19:43 iqualfragile jup 19:44 thexyz all dependencies are added as git submodules 19:44 thexyz into "depends" directory 19:44 thexyz but, anyway, that doesn't matter 20:28 iqualfragile thexyz: in how far are your xdoors2_mesecons compatible to doorsplus/ what do i have to think about it i switch 20:49 M13Coder hello 20:50 NekoGloop Is there still a RealBadAngel among us? ;) 20:50 RealBadAngel whassup? 20:50 NekoGloop nothing, I'm just back lol 20:50 NekoGloop what'd i miss? 20:50 RealBadAngel and i just took a nap 20:50 NekoGloop lol 20:50 RealBadAngel and fixed a few small things 20:51 NekoGloop I just redownloaded 20:51 RealBadAngel i made chromium a bit more common, added api for loading power tools 20:51 NekoGloop fixes to ores generation sounds promising 20:52 RealBadAngel diamonds shall also be a bit bit more common 20:52 NekoGloop sweet 20:53 NekoGloop btw: use wield_image to set a image for the copper wire, currently it looks like shit in the player's hand lol 20:53 NekoGloop update the post as well, it still says 0.4.2-rc1 20:54 NekoGloop do energy crystals function now? 20:55 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: have you worked on a screwdriver at all? 20:56 RealBadAngel not yet, "wear" is only 64k, i need to add a new variable for all the tools 20:56 RealBadAngel and translate it to "wear" to have the bar 20:56 NekoGloop would it be alright if i make a screwdriver? 20:56 NekoGloop I've got a really good idea for it. 20:57 RealBadAngel shouldnt be so hard, pick the node, change facedir, put it back 20:57 NekoGloop well my little venture into the bucket code told me how that should work 20:58 RealBadAngel so? 20:58 NekoGloop we could also make a sonic as well, with your new api :3 20:58 RealBadAngel and of course you can do that 20:58 RealBadAngel who would guess? ;) 20:59 NekoGloop no, you have to say it right 20:59 NekoGloop WHO would guess? 20:59 RealBadAngel hehehe 20:59 NekoGloop :D 20:59 RealBadAngel register_power_tool ("technic:mining_drill",60000) 21:00 RealBadAngel example registering the tool 21:00 NekoGloop cool 21:00 RealBadAngel 60k is max capacity 21:00 NekoGloop I only have to do that? nothing special to tooldef? 21:00 RealBadAngel to get the current load you have to use 2 functions 21:01 RealBadAngel function get_RE_item_load (load1,max_load) 21:01 RealBadAngel and function set_RE_item_load (load1,max_load) 21:01 NekoGloop i see 21:01 RealBadAngel that translated wear to linear value 21:02 NekoGloop get_RE_item_load returns the value. set_RE_item_load sets it. go figure. 21:02 RealBadAngel so you can operate load like 10000/60000 21:02 RealBadAngel most easy tool is mining drill 21:02 NekoGloop lol 21:02 RealBadAngel take a look at it 21:03 NekoGloop but first, a normal screwdriver 21:05 RealBadAngel ok, i just fixed a glitch in mining drill 21:06 RealBadAngel and lookin for a way to make it less laggy 21:06 NekoGloop doesnt seem laggy to me 21:07 NekoGloop how do i check if a node has meta? 21:08 RealBadAngel copy it all 21:08 RealBadAngel look at hacky_swap_node function 21:09 RealBadAngel its in defaults and in my init.lua 21:10 NekoGloop no i mean how do i check if a node HAS meta? 21:10 RealBadAngel who the heck would know whats in the specific meta? 21:11 RealBadAngel just copy it all 21:12 RealBadAngel dump it all to table, do whats needed with the node 21:12 RealBadAngel and restore it 21:14 RealBadAngel i need to split electric.lua into batbox and furnace 21:14 RealBadAngel its a mess by now 21:14 NekoGloop lol 21:15 RealBadAngel i just found two functions never used, some old tries 21:16 NekoGloop is 0 a broken tool or a new one? 21:18 iqualfragile what happened to this: http://celeron.55.lt/blog/?p=268 ? 21:19 NekoGloop it went derp 21:23 RealBadAngel 0 means no bar at all 21:24 RealBadAngel when 0 change it to 65535 21:24 RealBadAngel but i think loading function takes care of it 21:26 NekoGloop my non electric screwdriver lol 21:28 RealBadAngel ah, non electric :) 21:28 NekoGloop well its not even turning the node atm 21:28 NekoGloop forunately no crashing though lol 21:30 NekoGloop well can you help? :P 21:33 RealBadAngel sure 21:34 RealBadAngel i just cleaned the mess and uploaded it 21:34 RealBadAngel pastebin what you got by now 21:36 NekoGloop http://pastebin.com/5ckphEfN but i gtg so tell me when i get back xD 21:36 NekoGloop or add it to technic mainstream, that will work too 21:42 iqualfragile celeron55: http://c55.me/blog/?p=268 ? 21:55 iqualfragile im sorry, did you answer? 21:58 RealBadAngel he didnt 22:00 iqualfragile thats sad, but thanks for the info 22:01 iqualfragile i think this would be a realy nice feature 22:01 RealBadAngel it is nice 22:01 iqualfragile and its something graphical wich isnt in minecraft 22:03 Octupus HOLA 22:07 M13Coder my images wont work so how do i fix it http://pastebin.com/sLVL43DR 22:08 KsM Meh, I forgot how to use git 22:09 M13Coder VanessaE images help >>V 22:09 M13Coder http://pastebin.com/sLVL43DR 22:09 KsM git pull would sync my old version of the git repo with the new one right? 22:10 OldCoder MuadTralk, Hello 22:11 Octupus vanessa what can u do with vesels with undifeied dyes? 22:12 iqualfragile KsM: yes 22:13 Octupus Without undified dyes 22:28 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: screwdriver workin yet? 22:28 RealBadAngel fightin with it 22:29 NekoGloop good to see I'm not the only one who had it derp massively xD 22:29 MuadTralk is it sonic? 22:29 NekoGloop there will be a sonic 22:29 NekoGloop but currently we are working on the base screwdriver. 22:30 NekoGloop Probably also laser (the Master's screwdriver), with more capacity 22:30 RealBadAngel hi MuadTralk 22:32 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: care to pastebin your current progress? 22:33 NekoGloop also, the recipe; is it good? 22:35 RealBadAngel a sec 22:36 Octupus MILK MOD 22:36 RealBadAngel http://pastebin.com/bQSD4jL0 22:36 RealBadAngel i got a proble with pos i think 22:36 RealBadAngel tryin to figure it out now 22:38 NekoGloop as for the recipe? is it good? 22:38 VanessaE afternoon all 22:39 VanessaE Octupus: it's meant to create a standard for other mods to use later. afaik nothing uses it yet besides unified dyes. 22:39 NekoGloop hello vanessae 22:39 VanessaE hey 22:39 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, i think so 22:39 NekoGloop :3 22:39 NekoGloop i mean do you like it? 22:40 Octupus ohh :( 22:41 RealBadAngel its sick 22:41 RealBadAngel print(node_name) 22:41 RealBadAngel minetest.env:set_node(pos,node_name) 22:41 RealBadAngel 22:41 RealBadAngel i do check if node_name is a string with a name 22:41 RealBadAngel then next line says its nil 22:41 RealBadAngel instead of string 22:41 NekoGloop uh, lol? 22:42 RealBadAngel and crashes of course 22:42 NekoGloop minetest.env:set_node(pos,{name=node_name}) right? 22:43 RealBadAngel this line 22:44 RealBadAngel i even hardcoded node name there 22:44 RealBadAngel and it still says its nil 22:44 NekoGloop because it wants a node. 22:44 NekoGloop give it a node, not a name 22:45 RealBadAngel yeah it works 22:46 RealBadAngel but screwdriver is gone after one use 22:46 NekoGloop ooooh, i think i know why :P 22:46 NekoGloop fail is fail lol 22:47 NekoGloop it's returning a empty itemstack, with the wear. 22:47 NekoGloop instead of the actual screwdriver 22:47 NekoGloop UGH, y u no work for me? 22:47 RealBadAngel disabled wear for a moment 22:47 NekoGloop it worked for him, why cant it work for me? 22:47 RealBadAngel and screwdriver works just fine 22:48 NekoGloop please tell me how, since it derped for me. 22:48 NekoGloop facedir isnt being changed 22:48 NekoGloop (tested on grinder) 22:49 NekoGloop and now tested on stairs 22:49 NekoGloop still wont work for me 22:49 RealBadAngel download technic 22:49 RealBadAngel in a moment, uploading 22:49 NekoGloop oh, but you dont have wear? 22:50 RealBadAngel now 22:50 NekoGloop i think i know what i derped with there 22:50 RealBadAngel commented it out 22:50 RealBadAngel to test it first 22:50 RealBadAngel it nicely rotates workin furnace even 22:51 NekoGloop it should, meta is swapped directly 22:51 NekoGloop did you get some kind of graphic though? 22:51 RealBadAngel made the item texture 22:57 NekoGloop this is really cool :3 22:57 RealBadAngel now just the wear 22:57 NekoGloop yup 22:57 VanessaE zzz 22:58 NekoGloop sleepy? ;) 22:58 MuadTralk no shes a bumblebee 22:59 NekoGloop also it manages to not glitch out when pointing at a node without facedir 23:01 NekoGloop trying out my fix of wear now 23:02 NekoGloop lol the wear is going backwards 23:03 NekoGloop I'm healing the screwdriver! :D 23:03 NekoGloop as far as i know, this is only a matter of the wrong math operation being called 23:04 RealBadAngel hehehe 23:04 NekoGloop LOLWAT 23:04 NekoGloop I have a immortal screwdriver... :D 23:04 RealBadAngel better than sonic one 23:04 NekoGloop lolz 23:05 M13 Hello 23:05 NekoGloop but i need it to disppear when wear is 0, not have wear loop back to 65535 23:05 NekoGloop or, rather, the other way aroung 23:05 NekoGloop around* 23:05 NekoGloop because 65535 is an empty wear bar 23:06 NekoGloop wait no its not 23:06 NekoGloop ignore that *facepalm* 23:07 RealBadAngel its inversed 23:07 RealBadAngel gimme the code you have for wearing out 23:07 NekoGloop one minute 23:07 NekoGloop i have something that should work 23:09 RealBadAngel here its pisses on every try to wear it out 23:09 NekoGloop lol 23:09 NekoGloop like how i couldnt get it to turn? ;) 23:09 RealBadAngel something similar lol 23:09 NekoGloop see, it's neccessary to have two people 23:10 RealBadAngel i could dump it to table, set it, and revert 23:10 RealBadAngel but for what the hell is add_wear function? 23:10 RealBadAngel never got that shit to work 23:10 NekoGloop i have no fucking clue 23:11 NekoGloop but anyhow, I just derped and used "wear" in place of "m" 23:11 RealBadAngel i copied piece of code from defaulf item.lua and it doesnt work too 23:11 NekoGloop some exception: SUCK IT. 23:12 RealBadAngel that with dumpin it to table works 100% 23:12 RealBadAngel im using it with power tools 23:13 NekoGloop idk maybe it just doesnt like you right now? :3 23:13 RealBadAngel actually it pissed me off, to table with it 23:13 NekoGloop well that was a failure 23:14 MuadTralk you dont need a screwdriver just a kettle and some string 23:14 NekoGloop ...? 23:14 MuadTralk come one neko i thought you might get the reference 23:14 NekoGloop ... sorry? 23:16 NekoGloop [british]excuse me, what?[/british] 23:20 RealBadAngel shit :) 23:20 RealBadAngel still no go hehehhe, neko gimme the code that changes wear for ya 23:20 NekoGloop trying a new idea 23:21 NekoGloop maybe check the RIGHT operation for it instead of the WRONG one 23:21 NekoGloop (if m<65535 was what i had... if m>65535 is what i need) 23:21 NekoGloop what. the. fuck. 23:23 NekoGloop http://pastebin.com/NkPVAcKY 23:23 NekoGloop the useless shit that doesnt work is commented out 23:24 RealBadAngel ok, i got it working, need just to delete it 23:24 RealBadAngel when worn out 23:24 NekoGloop that's what's the problem with mine 23:24 NekoGloop it doesnt disappear 23:25 VanessaE bbl 23:29 RealBadAngel solved 23:29 NekoGloop ermahgerd 23:29 NekoGloop gimme :3 23:30 RealBadAngel uploading 23:30 RealBadAngel ive made it for circa 80 uses 23:31 RealBadAngel its uploaded 23:33 RealBadAngel it can rotate stairs 23:34 NekoGloop it should rotate everything with facedir 23:34 RealBadAngel lol 23:34 RealBadAngel check the doors buhahahhahaha 23:35 NekoGloop MAAAAAGICCCCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 23:35 MuadTralk if friendship 23:35 MuadTralk is* 23:35 MuadTralk derp 23:35 NekoGloop oh god no 23:36 RealBadAngel can rotate signs 23:36 M13 RealBadAngel 23:36 RealBadAngel what? 23:36 NekoGloop it can rotate wallmounted? 23:36 M13 what post was that for compiling minetets? 23:36 M13 minetest? * 23:37 RealBadAngel yes, aparently 23:37 RealBadAngel signs, ladders, and nyancat 23:37 NekoGloop nyancat is facedir 23:37 RealBadAngel m13: wait a sec 23:38 NekoGloop lol it can rotate mesecon wires even 23:38 M13 ok found it 23:38 RealBadAngel http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1434 23:38 NekoGloop but the question is, do they still work? 23:38 RealBadAngel wonder 23:38 M13 were do i put irrlicht 23:39 M13 i cant install it like Linux 23:39 M13 here is how my folder is setup 23:39 NekoGloop lol i can haxxor my circuits xD 23:40 NekoGloop i just had a brilliant idea 23:40 NekoGloop mesecon wires should use wallmounted 23:40 RealBadAngel yeah, its cool 23:41 RealBadAngel but btw, node has no property you checked at the start 23:41 M13 http://pastebin.com/D49FXiut 23:41 NekoGloop hm? 23:41 RealBadAngel just name, and param2 23:42 RealBadAngel i dumped nodes i were trying to move, none have facedir2 param 23:42 RealBadAngel its only in definition 23:42 NekoGloop huh, paramtype2 should be called... 23:42 NekoGloop OH 23:42 RealBadAngel or paramtype2 23:42 NekoGloop derp :P 23:43 RealBadAngel theres just param2 23:43 NekoGloop can i call nodedef? 23:43 RealBadAngel propably 23:43 NekoGloop lol i have a piston arm 23:43 NekoGloop mining drill ftw 23:44 RealBadAngel same glitch was present in minecraft lol 23:44 RealBadAngel local function get_nodedef_field(nodename, fieldname) 23:44 RealBadAngel if not minetest.registered_nodes[nodename] then 23:44 RealBadAngel return nil 23:44 RealBadAngel end 23:44 RealBadAngel return minetest.registered_nodes[nodename][fieldname] 23:44 RealBadAngel end 23:44 RealBadAngel local drawtype = get_nodedef_field(nodename, "drawtype") 23:45 RealBadAngel its from API 23:45 M13 RealBadAngel are my dirs right? 23:45 NekoGloop but the problem is, piston arms ARE registered nodes 23:45 RealBadAngel what a pity ;) 23:45 M13 so no??? 23:45 NekoGloop lol 23:46 RealBadAngel m13: dunno, looks ok 23:46 M13Coder beep 23:46 M13 ok but CMake says im missing irrlicht 23:47 RealBadAngel have you set a path for it? 23:47 M13 o ok 23:47 M13 lolz 23:47 M13 hahahhaha 23:47 M13Coder BEEP BEEP 23:47 Uberi|AoS BOOP BOOP 23:47 RealBadAngel m13: use that batch file for compiling 23:48 RealBadAngel you can set there paths to all libs 23:48 M13 what batch file? 23:49 RealBadAngel read the post 23:49 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, i will change recipe a little, to be diagonal 23:49 NekoGloop noo! 23:49 NekoGloop keep the minetest tool recipe style 23:50 RealBadAngel lol, ok 23:50 RealBadAngel lookin now for sonicscrewdriver picture 23:50 * M13Coder ZOOMS 23:50 M13 thnx RealBadAngel 23:50 M13 ill do so 23:51 Uberi|AoS oh man is someone making a sonic screwdriver? 23:52 NakedFury if you do it most do the sounds 23:52 RealBadAngel i got icon for it, workin on it now 23:52 RealBadAngel can some1 look for sound for it? 23:53 NakedFury http://soundfxnow.com/sound-fx/doctor-who-sonic-screwdriver/ 23:55 MuadTralk yes1 23:55 MuadTralk yes!* 23:55 MuadTralk it must be this 23:56 NekoGloop will we be able to unlock chests? ;) 23:56 MuadTralk just make sure it doesnt do wood 23:56 NekoGloop it can open wood things... cant it? 23:57 MuadTralk what screwdriver are we talking about? 23:58 NekoGloop sonic