Time Nick Message 00:14 _2cool4me4_ I may have to scrap this alu design... 00:14 _2cool4me4_ :( 00:15 VanessaE why? 00:15 _2cool4me4_ It just doesn't work right. 00:16 _2cool4me4_ bad adding design. good AND-ing 00:22 iqualfragile gn8 00:23 _2cool4me4_ what? 00:28 VanessaE "good night: 00:28 VanessaE " 00:29 _2cool4me4_ ohh 00:29 Keegann night VanessaE 00:29 VanessaE not me you dork, I was explaining iqualfragile's shorthand :-() 00:29 VanessaE :-) 00:29 Keegann oh 00:30 Keegann now whos this 00:30 Guy12 Hello 00:30 _2cool4me4_ He's the twelveth guy. 00:31 Keegann no crap 00:31 _2cool4me4_ :( 00:32 Guy12 I saw the minetest article going through a Deletion process. Are they serious? 00:32 _2cool4me4_ yep 00:32 VanessaE yes they are 00:32 VanessaE fucking deletionists. 00:32 _2cool4me4_ Why doesn' 00:32 _2cool4me4_ t Minecraft get deleted? 00:32 VanessaE did you read the argument in the actual deletion page? 00:33 Keegann whats the link 00:33 VanessaE _2cool4me4_: oh, because they're commercial and big and got lots of media coverage, etc. 00:33 Guy12 Ive read it all. 00:33 VanessaE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Minetest 00:33 VanessaE WP will never see another edit from me. 00:33 VanessaE I give up on their bullshit rules. 00:34 Guy12 Vanessa, It may not be deleted. 00:34 Keegann whats gonna be delted 00:34 VanessaE Keegann: read the link I just gave 00:34 Keegann i did 00:35 VanessaE Guy12: it'll be deleted. 00:35 VanessaE once the deletionists dig in their heels, the article is fucked 00:35 VanessaE G*d damn little fiefdoms. 00:36 Guy12 It does look like it. I also saw your violation expression again John. 00:36 Guy12 *Against 00:37 VanessaE I assumed. 00:37 VanessaE If they wanna pull out the rules card, so will I. 00:38 Guy12 Also labeling Celeron55 as a single purpose account. Did he actually create an account? 00:38 VanessaE yes 00:39 Guy12 I looked at Johns history and apparently he asked an Administrator whether Minetest is actually subject for any actions. 00:39 Keegann who wants to delte it? 00:40 VanessaE Keegann: some random WP user who already said once that he isn't an admin. 00:40 _2cool4me4_ no one from the community 00:40 Keegann fudge him 00:40 Guy12 A few people Keegann. 00:40 Keegann all of them 00:40 VanessaE Keegann: Don't say fudge. If you gotta use the "F" word, go for the gold. 00:40 OldCoder VanessaE, way to adult 00:40 OldCoder 00:40 Keegann FUCK the retards 00:41 VanessaE OldCoder: I was quoting a movie :-) 00:41 Guy12 John, TheSpecialUser, ItsZippy (Wikipedia Administrator) and some Serge guy/. 00:41 _2cool4me4_ I like the internet better than real life. if there's any drama, you can quit. 00:41 Guy12 They all want it deleted. 00:41 OldCoder VanessaE, stay awake 00:41 Keegann do they have a channel? 00:41 VanessaE Keegann: no. 00:43 Guy12 Vanessa, I think you have 7 days to improve the article and the discussion may be closed for being false to the current state. 00:43 VanessaE Guy12: we've been trying to improve it. 00:43 VanessaE But Wikipedia's rules regarding sources are too strict. 00:43 VanessaE even the AUTHOR of the game isn't a reliable source. 00:44 _2cool4me4_ No, because he is biased toward the game 00:44 Guy12 ^^^ 00:44 * VanessaE shrugs 00:44 VanessaE everyone has some kind of bias 00:44 _2cool4me4_ yep 00:45 Guy12 Why dont we all just respond with Keep? 00:45 _2cool4me4_ they'll label us as SPA 00:45 VanessaE Guy12: WP:SPA, WP:!Vote 00:45 Guy12 Damn. 00:45 VanessaE er, how's that other one go.. 00:45 Guy12 ? 00:46 VanessaE (anyway it means these kinds of discussions are not democracies. they're bureaucracies) 00:47 Guy12 Why not back up your comments with policies instead of saying minecraft is notable etc. Maybe policies could swing it our way! 00:47 VanessaE I tried. 00:47 VanessaE somehow I'm turning the argument back on someone else. 00:47 VanessaE fuck 'em all, I give up. 00:48 Keegann i dont even want to look at the page... ts so ugly 00:48 Guy12 Get ruben and everyone else you know who have accounts to comment. You dont have to continue, just get them to. 00:48 * VanessaE shrugs. won't do any good. 00:49 Guy12 Well, why not take your concern of John to a place on Wikipedia like a noticeboard. If they find in your favour, the AfD may be closed. 00:50 VanessaE what good will it do? I'm a nobody. 00:50 Guy12 You have a long editing period. More than John. They will take you over John. 00:52 Guy12 Just try. You never win unless you try. 00:52 cy1 hey, anyone want to try out my server? 00:52 cy1 it's verge.info.tm 6989 00:53 VanessaE no they won't. TSU is show more important than me, and his edits only go back to May of this year. 00:53 VanessaE explain that? 00:53 VanessaE s/show/some/ 00:53 VanessaE somehow* even 00:53 VanessaE "important" is the wrong word there. 00:54 VanessaE more valued I guess. you get the point. 00:54 Guy12 Well reviewing the log, Everyone is supporting John more than you and his edits go back to last month/Late July. 00:57 Guy12 Someone just made an edit to Minetest and it was reverted by John within a minute. 00:57 _2cool4me4_ can we see what the edit was? 00:58 Guy12 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Minetest&diff=511463003&oldid=511451722 00:58 Guy12 IT was aimed at Minecraft, but still. Why was there such a quick response? 00:59 VanessaE he's probably 'watch'ing the article. 00:59 Guy12 But why? 00:59 VanessaE dunno 00:59 VanessaE he said he would "monitor it closely" before. 00:59 VanessaE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vanessaezekowitz 01:00 Guy12 Search the text using search, I see it. 01:02 VanessaE even that "admin" doesn't go as far back as I do. 01:03 Guy12 Which? ItsZippy? 01:03 VanessaE (Kudpung that is) 01:03 Guy12 Oh, Well why dont you run for Admin? 01:03 VanessaE Zippy doesn't go as far back either. 01:03 VanessaE what's the point? I'm not admin material. 01:04 VanessaE I don't have a good memory for thousands of rules 01:05 Guy12 Vanessa, just act like you do for the request. Then after is MInetest has problems with users, You could secretly use your powers to resolve them. 01:05 VanessaE I'm not like that. 01:05 Guy12 Your loss. 01:06 VanessaE I don't do or approve of that kind of thing - I'd be as bad as they are. 01:06 Guy12 I can guarantee that TheSpecialUser and John will run for Admin when they reach 9 or so months of work. 01:08 Guy12 And if Minetest is still on Wikipedia at the time, it will be screwed for sure. 01:11 Guy12 So Vanessa, Given up on Wikipedia? Or are you staying until the AfD ends? 01:12 VanessaE I dunno, maybe I'll stick around, but no one should expect any further edits from me on any subject. 01:13 Guy12 I wonder what ruben will do when he logs onto Wikipedia to see Minetest at AfD. 01:14 VanessaE good question. 01:14 Guy12 You going to let ruben find out, or are you going to tell ruben? 01:16 VanessaE it's already been mentioned on the relevant forum thread 01:16 VanessaE so I'm sure he'll find out next time he gets on the forum 01:18 Guy12 I think if Celeron did not comment, the deletion would not be as it is. Also its weird John went and found all of the 'Keep' voters on the forum and site. 01:18 VanessaE yup. he strikes me as being non-neutral on this subject. 01:19 VanessaE why does he care so much? 01:19 Guy12 I dont know. How did he find the article in the first place anyway? 01:21 Guy12 Why not ask him? 01:22 VanessaE maybe you can ask him on his talk page? I'm not likely to get a truthful answer from him. 01:22 VanessaE ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_F._Lewis ) 01:23 Guy12 Why would he answer to me? Its not my concern to be fair. 01:24 VanessaE true 01:24 Guy12 Just ask and see his response. 01:26 cy1 hmm, maybe I am coming off as too needy 01:26 VanessaE done. 01:26 VanessaE cy1: what? 01:26 cy1 hey everyone, don't under any circumstances join my server at verge.info.tm 6989 it is for elite people only 01:26 VanessaE Guy12: asked. 01:26 cy1 `-` 01:26 VanessaE cy1: haha 01:27 Guy12 Alright. Wait for a response. 01:32 M13 Is there anyone that can cross compile here? 01:32 VanessaE M13: no, no one would EVER do anything crazy like that 01:32 VanessaE :) 01:32 M13 :( 01:32 M13 I need someone to compile my fork for Windows 01:33 M13 I dont Have Windows 01:33 Guy12 Got a response Vanessa? 01:33 M13 btw: what Linux distro do you run Vanessa? 01:34 VanessaE apparently so.. *looks* 01:34 VanessaE M13: I use Xubuntu 12.04. 01:34 M13 oo 01:35 M13 It had a Rainbow Window boarder so i was confused 01:35 VanessaE oh ho ho.. 01:35 VanessaE "I see no reason why you really need to know, but I came across it at a place called Recent Changes. John F. Lewis (talk) 01:29, 9 September 2012 (UTC)" 01:36 OldCoder 01:37 OldCoder Attention. A website relevant to this channel will be linked in about half an hour. Lurk to receive the link. 01:37 OldCoder 01:37 NakedFury lurking 01:38 * VanessaE lurks. 01:42 cy1 ATTENTION I AM LURKING 01:42 cy1 JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS 01:43 cy1 LURKING HERE 01:43 cy1 YUP 01:43 * VanessaE idles loudly 01:43 NakedFury yup lurking, nothing more keep going 01:48 leo_rockway reminds me of idlerpg 01:48 leo_rockway I think there's one here in freenode. 02:02 NekoGloop Gooood evening 02:04 Keegann hey 02:05 cy1 NekoGloop: I put gloopblocks on it ._. 02:05 NekoGloop You looked at the logs? ;) 02:06 NekoGloop Or are we not talking about the same thing? 02:08 cy1 no I'm talking about my server reset. Wanted to get the fancy ores and actually fix mapgen, and nobody was building on it anyway. 02:09 cy1 I don't think you had built anything on it. 02:09 OldCoder 02:09 OldCoder This is nowhere near done. But it's a start. 02:09 OldCoder http://landmine.wikidot.com/ 02:09 OldCoder 02:10 NekoGloop I didnt build at all lol 02:10 NekoGloop gloopores? 02:11 cy1 yeah, and gloopblocks 02:11 cy1 OldCoder: that's a lot of dox o.O 02:11 OldCoder I can't take the credit 02:11 OldCoder I only did some of it 02:11 OldCoder Sources must remain nameless 02:12 OldCoder However 02:12 OldCoder I am rather good... 02:12 OldCoder at putting pieces together 02:12 OldCoder We will see if it is necessary 02:12 OldCoder 02:12 NekoGloop cy1: Also add cactusmod. Please? :3 will add some element of survival. 02:13 cy1 NekoGloop: cactusmod? And mobs kill my performance. 02:14 VanessaE cactusmod is installed on my setup already 02:14 NekoGloop Not mobs, but abm to damage player when contacting a cactus. Also adds cactus fruit and cactus clubs. 02:14 Keegann im famous again! :) 02:14 VanessaE but if you install v0.0.3, you'll need to fix a typo 02:14 NekoGloop In what? 02:14 NekoGloop I have no problems with cactusmod locally. 02:15 cy1 nah, damaging cactuses are dumb 02:15 NekoGloop What was my typo? 02:15 NekoGloop cy1: So you can walk into a cactus irl and not be harmed? 02:16 cy1 NekoGloop: irl I can't dig a basement without being harmed. :c 02:17 NekoGloop True xD 02:18 cy1 I'll use mobs as soon as someone figures out a way to make them disappear when outside of active block range, but not destroy the ones people capture to domesticate. 02:19 NakedFury oldcoder this is priceless 02:19 OldCoder Hmm 02:19 OldCoder Really? 02:19 * OldCoder is pleased 02:19 OldCoder How did my sources and I do? 02:19 OldCoder They deserve the credit not me 02:20 Keegann the best part is me right? 02:20 OldCoder Yes 02:20 OldCoder You were so cool 02:20 OldCoder :p 02:20 NakedFury man but but but this is like a super passive griefing artform 02:20 * OldCoder chuckles 02:20 OldCoder It's just the beginning 02:20 NakedFury wow 02:20 OldCoder Even if he faked everything 02:20 NakedFury its like a story 02:20 OldCoder I can get his RL identity 02:20 VanessaE NekoGloop: spawning.lua, line 88, there's a typo in a function used there that for me causes the game to crash rather unceremoniously 02:20 * NekoGloop gives oldcoder, keegann, and oldcoder's sources cookies 02:21 NekoGloop VanessaE: My cactusmod has no such "spawning.lua" 02:21 * OldCoder accepts on everybody's behalf 02:21 VanessaE yours is old then 02:21 VanessaE as usual ;) 02:21 NekoGloop No... 02:21 OldCoder VanessaE, PM if OK 02:21 VanessaE I just downloaded this one a few mins ago 02:21 NekoGloop I'm talking about MY cactusmod, the one I made? 02:23 RealBadAngel OldCoder, have you tried YOUR music mod? 02:23 OldCoder RealBadAngel, which one? 02:23 RealBadAngel you converted 02:23 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I am so exhausted 02:23 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Will you discuss Open Music with me again soon? 02:24 VanessaE neko, I'm talking about sapier's 02:24 OldCoder That is my request 02:24 NekoGloop Sapier's is growingcactus, mine is cactusmod lol 02:24 RealBadAngel i cant because im not author 02:24 RealBadAngel i have just authout agreement 02:26 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AILyujYsCnU&feature=plcp 02:26 RealBadAngel start at 0:30 02:27 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Are you at least -working- on technic? 02:27 NekoGloop Btw better than wolves minecraft mod has 1.3.2 update. :D 02:27 RealBadAngel bet? 02:28 NekoGloop Better than wolves, i consider it to be a low-level technical mod 02:28 RealBadAngel fuck the rest 02:28 Guest50757 thats awesome 02:28 RealBadAngel bet with me 02:29 RealBadAngel gloopish vs angelish 02:29 RealBadAngel up to? 02:29 NekoGloop Its not my mod 02:29 NekoGloop Its a minecraft mod lol 02:30 NekoGloop You brought up that no technical mc mods had 1.3.2 updates a few days back 02:30 RealBadAngel im not playin mc for 2 months 02:30 RealBadAngel like 02:30 Keegann who is well whatever, i'll not get involved with that anymore; somebody copy the article so it doesn't get completely lost 06:17 sfan5 i already did that 07:23 hmmmm hmmmm 07:23 hmmmm does minetest have vines like in minecraft? 07:23 hmmmm and what's the state of the fences that blend with other nodes? 07:24 Calinou hmmmm, it doesn't 07:24 Calinou my moreblocks mod adds ropes you can craft 07:24 Calinou they don't spawn naturally, too 07:24 Calinou hmmmm, see xfences mod by xyz 07:24 hmmmm okay 07:24 hmmmm so i assume i can just modify the rope with a vine graphic and it'd work just as well 07:24 Calinou it adds fences with better collisions and which connect to blocks: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2127 07:25 Calinou yeah :P 07:25 Calinou in misa's pack they look like vines 07:25 hmmmm i wonder why that mod isn't part of the default... 07:31 * Calinou saves local copy of wikipedia page 07:31 Calinou john fuck lewis is out 07:33 Calinou http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Minetest_creative_mode.png 07:33 Calinou VanessaE, looks like I can't upload a new version of that 07:34 Calinou (removed window border) 07:36 hmmmm i don't like the new default water, grass and dirt textures 07:36 hmmmm they're too dark or something 07:36 Calinou they're ok 07:37 Calinou here's the image anyway without window borders: http://ompldr.org/vZmY3cw/750px-Minetest_creative_mode.png 08:12 cy1 Calinou: hey I was supposed to tell you about that thing 08:12 cy1 that... 08:12 cy1 uh... 08:12 Calinou cy1, what thing? 08:13 cy1 I forgot ;_; 08:14 cy1 oh! 08:14 cy1 Calinou: corner stairs 08:14 cy1 like a slab with a quarter of a slab on top. 08:14 cy1 Makes spiral staircases easier. 08:15 cy1 Just an idea I had, and VanessaE told me to mention to you. 08:15 Calinou could be useful, yeah 08:15 cerjam2 Calinou. 08:15 cerjam2 you come from #minecraft. 08:15 Calinou yes 08:15 Calinou poor guy wants to troll me 08:15 cerjam2 i already did that, dont worry 08:15 Calinou cy1, I remember the guy above, he's a troll :P 08:15 cerjam2 i am not 08:15 Calinou french troll 08:16 cerjam2 i just enjoy screwing with you, you were rather whiney to me 08:16 cy1 cerjam2: that's pretty much the definition of troll... 08:17 cerjam2 oh i went far past troll on this guy 08:17 * Calinou gets to modding 08:17 wei2912 Calinou, nice trolling 08:17 cerjam2 i /think/ you were trying to get me zlined. maybe it wasnt you. 08:17 Calinou no 08:17 wei2912 cerjam2: lol 08:17 wei2912 zlined is for the server 08:17 cerjam2 somebody in there really got pissed off 08:17 cerjam2 at my haxory 08:17 cerjam2 lmfao 08:18 cerjam2 all for asking for a flipping minecraft.jar file. 08:18 cerjam2 sad. 08:18 wei2912 trolls are not allowed! 08:18 wei2912 VanessaE, feel free to ban 08:18 wei2912 lol 08:18 cerjam2 i'll troll you, BOI. 08:18 wei2912 have fun celeron55 08:18 wei2912 sry 08:19 wei2912 have fun cerjam2 08:43 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 08:43 cosarara97 hi 08:43 cerjam2 wazzzup 08:43 PilzAdam who are you? 08:44 cerjam2 i am some random idiot whos tumbled in here randomly 08:44 cerjam2 and thought minetest was neat. 08:44 PilzAdam minetest is awesome 08:45 cosarara97 (if your computer can run it at more than 15 fps) 08:45 PilzAdam ~300 FPS 08:45 cosarara97 ~8 FPS :) 08:46 cerjam2 how do i tell fps 08:46 PilzAdam hit F6 until there is a line "FPS =" 08:47 cerjam2 57 08:47 cosarara97 it's in the title bar 08:47 cerjam2 oh wow 08:47 cerjam2 im stupid 08:47 cerjam2 lmfao 08:57 cerjam2 Calinou. 08:57 cerjam2 waddup 08:58 Calinou ignore'd 08:58 Calinou hi 08:58 cerjam2 .. well fuck you then 09:02 thexyz hm, i guess, there was an article about minetest in russian magazine called Linux Format 09:07 thexyz this — http://i.imgur.com/XRMzS.png 09:08 PilzAdam its russian... 09:10 thexyz http://www.linuxformat.com/archives?issue=152 09:18 thexyz well, here's english version of that article http://i.imgur.com/FDAhu.png 09:19 thexyz > Linux Format was the UK's first Linux-specific magazine, and is currently the best-selling Linux title in the UK. 09:19 thexyz Can then be counted as "notable source"? 09:19 PilzAdam yes 09:20 thexyz well, then somebody should add that to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Minetest#Minetest 09:24 PilzAdam can you post it in the forums in the Minetest wikipedia topic? 09:26 thexyz posted 09:26 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/1194305/ 09:26 Calinou mod issue 09:26 Calinou creating shapeless recipe doesn't work :/ 09:27 PilzAdam "_bottom" .. " 2" <- why? you can use "_bottom 2" 09:28 Calinou haha right 09:29 Calinou still doesn't work though 09:31 PilzAdam it should... i dont see any mistake 09:42 wei2912 theTroy, thanks for telling me 09:42 wei2912 sry wrong person 09:42 wei2912 thexyz, thanks for giving that link 09:42 wei2912 i'm going to help out 09:53 theTroy wei2912: D: I feel so let down now 09:53 theTroy j/k 09:53 wei2912 theTroy, sry lol 09:59 wei2912 thexyz, commente 09:59 wei2912 thexyz, commented 10:01 cerjam2 anyone need webhosting 10:15 Calinou nevermind; I changed the recipe so that it doesn't use shapeless recipes (it is a whole different concept now) 10:55 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2092 10:55 Calinou stairs+ update out 10:55 Calinou approximately 12509 new features. 10:58 wei2912 Calinou, thanks 10:59 Calinou in my debian VM this is the output of free -m: 10:59 Calinou Mem: 2012 666 1346 0 33 259 10:59 Calinou lmao 10:59 Calinou 666MB ram used :) 10:59 wei2912 Calinou, is it a conflict of "stairs"? 10:59 Calinou no, it works fine 10:59 Calinou you just put the stairsplus folder in your mods folder 10:59 wei2912 Calinou, can i delete stairs? 11:00 Calinou however, any and all placed stairs get converted to stairsplus stairs (so that they make sounds when stepped on) 11:00 Calinou no, you should not 11:00 Calinou it might or might not work. not tested 11:00 Calinou it is a dependancy 11:00 thexyz will corner-placed stairs auto convert to corner stairs? 11:02 PilzAdam how many stairs+ mods are there? 11:04 Calinou https://github.com/calinou/minetest_mods < the email thingie worked :D 11:05 jordach Calinou, using git push or Git for WIndows? 11:06 Calinou git push 11:07 Calinou why would I use git for winblows... 11:22 Guy12 Greetings. 11:22 PilzAdam hi 11:22 Guy12 Hey Ruben 11:26 rubenwardy hi 11:26 Guy12 Seen Wikipedia Ruben? 11:29 rubenwardy yes, i made the article 11:30 Guy12 I mean, Today/Yesterday. 11:31 rubenwardy damn AfD 11:31 rubenwardy marked for debate about speedy deletion 11:31 Guy12 Unfortunately. 11:31 PilzAdam i made a copy of the article code 11:32 rubenwardy me too 11:32 rubenwardy we will continue to develop it on my sandbox, if it is deleted 11:33 Guy12 And if we put it back in the namespace and an Editor feels the article is still bad, It can be speedy deleted. 11:34 Guy12 Ruben, Why not go and put your opinion on the AfD? 11:35 rubenwardy i am 11:35 rubenwardy #minetest-wiki 11:36 Guy12 Minetest-wiki? 11:39 rubenwardy chat room 11:40 Guy12 Ok 11:42 Guy12 Its also weird how almost every Delete participate is attempting to prove all of the keeps are wrong by searching them on the Forum and Wiki. 11:52 rubenwardy ikr 11:57 Guy12 Ruben, I think you just got tagged on the discussion. 11:59 rubenwardy yep 12:06 Guy12 John seems to be replying and tagging fast. 12:07 rubenwardy he does 12:12 Guy12 The AfD is not really a deletion discussion, But much rather a Policy accusations against John and Serge. 12:13 rubenwardy lol 12:13 Guy12 If people have problems, why not take the police issue to disputes or AN. 12:17 Guy12 Rube, Why not take the policies issues to the Dispute or AN? 12:17 rubenwardy i dont know how 12:18 Guy12 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:AN 12:18 Guy12 Or 12:18 Guy12 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:Disputes 12:21 Calinou poor wikipedia fanboy comes in this channel 12:21 Guy12 Who? 12:23 cerjam2 http://www.element14.com/community/thread/19684?tstart=0 12:23 cerjam2 ohgawd. 12:23 cerjam2 just what i wnat to do. 12:25 Mikeonline hi 12:26 PilzAdam hi 12:26 rubenwardy which fanboy? 12:26 Mikeonline hm creative_mode = true still isnt recognized anymore 12:33 Calinou rubenwardy, Guy12 :P 12:33 * Calinou added a comment, btw 12:34 Guy12 How am I? 12:34 Calinou seriously; wikipedia wars like this are pointless; I feel like playing L4D2 (even though I never actually played it) 12:34 Calinou Guy12, who are you on wikipedia? 12:35 Guy12 I am no one. I am just a user who saw the minetest article from the forum and I find the deleteion stupid. 12:35 Guy12 *deletion 12:37 Calinou ah, ok :) 12:37 Calinou same. wikipedia has this deletionism problem since forever 12:37 Calinou the only way is force, apparently 12:38 rubenwardy yeah. I am hardly a fan boy 12:38 rubenwardy only created two articles... 12:38 Mikeonline PilzAdam: is the mod creative needed in 0.4.3 to support the creative_mode flag? 12:39 Guy12 Every time someone comments 'Keep', John or Serge is there saying Conflict of interest or proving something. 12:39 PilzAdam Mikeonline, yes 12:39 Mikeonline hm and in 0.4.3 creative mod seems to be missing isnt it? 12:39 cy1 Guy12: what deletion? What's AFd? 12:39 PilzAdam Mikeonline, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/tree/master/mods/creative 12:40 Guy12 Articles for deletion. The Minetest article is going through an AfD. 12:40 Mikeonline PilzAdam: yes thats what i found, but its not in the stable package :( 12:40 rubenwardy creative inventory is better than creative 12:41 Mikeonline hm i dont know the difference. i had 0.4.1 installed and updated to 0.4.3 yesterday. now creative_mode = true doesnt give me inventory 12:42 PilzAdam Mikeonline, you are right; seems to be a mistake by celeron55 12:42 Mikeonline so the switch does not work because "creative" is missing in minetest-game/mods? 12:43 Mikeonline can i combine it from github and stable just by copying it there? 12:43 PilzAdam yes 12:43 Mikeonline ok i'll try it 12:43 PilzAdam you can donwload minetest_game and override the old 12:46 Guy12 So if the article goes, What you going to do? 12:47 rubenwardy develop it in my sandbox then remake it 12:48 Mikeonline PilzAdam: thanks it did it. it was missing in the stable branch 12:48 PilzAdam Mikeonline, you should tell c55 that it is missing 12:48 Guy12 Knowing Wikipedia, they will speedy delete it once remade. 12:49 rubenwardy not if it is better than ever 12:49 Guy12 Going to add more sources? 12:50 Mikeonline PilzAdam: is it save for the leveldata if i update all mods to head? 12:50 PilzAdam Mikeonline, yes, should be 12:50 Keegan1 does anyone have window PM me 12:50 PilzAdam ?? 12:51 Mikeonline PilzAdam: ok i wrote him 12:51 Keegan1 windows 7 12:51 Mikeonline "should" ;) 12:51 jordach Keegan1, windows xp compiles work on 7, vista 12:51 PilzAdam Mikeonline, 99.9% 12:51 jordach but if done onm 7 - wont work for vista and xp 12:51 Mikeonline so the engine head would be much more riskfulß 12:51 Mikeonline ß 12:51 Mikeonline ? 12:52 PilzAdam not realy 12:52 Guy12 Ruben what would you do if you did recreate it but it got speedy deleted? 12:53 PilzAdam can someone make a animated texture for fire? I want to add it to my minetest_game fork 12:57 rubenwardy do it again 12:58 rubenwardy (to Guy12 that was) 12:58 Guy12 I know a friend who did that, He then got blocked from Wikipedia indefinitely for recreating deleted pages. 12:59 rubenwardy oh right 13:01 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/4c2a45ab3f17591f0fd3471acf35c2cb4e7da1ab 13:01 Calinou Guy12, and this is why we invented alts and dynamic IPs 13:02 Guy12 So you will be creating a new account to deal with the creation? 13:02 rubenwardy in bbcode, what is [tag]? 13:02 rubenwardy yep 13:03 Guy12 That would be classed as Socking. 13:03 Calinou sure, I also should abide to US law and software patents 13:03 Calinou 13:04 rubenwardy where is the opening tag? 13:05 rubenwardy 13:15 Calinou http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sergecross73 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_F._Lewis -- as you can see, both of them are deletionist university morons 13:15 Mikeonline PilzAdam: now minetest-game 0.4.3 stable is up2date 13:16 Calinou they can go back to their porn articles 13:16 PilzAdam Mikeonline, i saw it 13:16 Guy12 One shows all of his AfD stats, the other just says he contributes to AfD. Both seem to be so. 13:17 rubenwardy 89% Are we in the 11%? 13:18 Calinou O_o 13:18 rubenwardy well liked user... vandallised 15 times 13:18 rubenwardy might increment that number 13:19 Calinou haha 13:25 Guy12 You should ruben. 13:27 Keegann is there a way to change font in minetest or color 13:27 PilzAdam yes 13:28 Keegann how 13:28 PilzAdam idk 13:28 PilzAdam but there is one 13:28 * Calinou changed his wikipedia signature 13:29 Keegann what was the way to run a server on windows? 13:29 Calinou Keegann, yes, but all the text will be colored 13:29 Keegann yes that what i want 13:29 Calinou Keegann, just start minetest in the "advanced" menu with no IP address 13:29 Calinou this will start a server 13:29 Calinou (closes itself once you quit the game) 13:29 Calinou Keegann, change the color of fontlucida.png in textures/base/pack 13:30 Calinou don't touch the red/yellow dots in that image though 13:30 Calinou and MAKE A BACKUP 13:32 PilzAdam because the default control for descent in fly mode is shift, there can be the E key used to fly fast, like walking fast with E 13:32 PilzAdam what do you think? 13:33 rubenwardy texture 13:33 rubenwardy folder 13:33 rubenwardy what Calinou said 13:33 rubenwardy you can use a tool in the Irrlicht SDK to make it 13:35 Calinou saved local copy of the wikipedia article in a .txt file 13:35 rubenwardy PilzAdam, +1 13:35 rubenwardy we have all done that :D 13:36 rubenwardy if it is deleted, i will develop it on my sandbox page, and submit to AfC 13:36 rubenwardy you can all access my sandbox page 13:37 Guy12 Ruben, John contributes to AfC too... 13:38 rubenwardy i know 13:40 Guy12 When you submit, I am assume it will go here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Minetest 13:42 rubenwardy yes 13:43 Guy12 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ItsZippy#Minetest <-- John asked ItsZippy if deletion was appropriate and ItsZippy was the first delete vote. 13:44 jordach university degrees do not give you a royal right on the internet 13:44 rubenwardy novice 13:44 PilzAdam rubenwardy, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/246 13:44 rubenwardy yeah 13:45 rubenwardy what is the command to change my name to rubenwardy|OFF ? 13:45 jordach ./nick rubenwardy|OFF 13:46 PilzAdam dont do this 13:46 jordach or use /away 13:47 Guy12 I have to go now, Cya. 13:48 rubenwardy what does /away do? 13:48 PilzAdam mark you as awy 13:48 PilzAdam *away 13:48 rubenwardy /back ? 13:48 PilzAdam idk 13:49 PilzAdam i have xchat and can just click away or back ;-) 13:49 Calinou highfive for xchat 13:49 * PilzAdam highfives Calinou 13:49 Calinou rubenwardy, it looks like the IRC is dead 13:49 Calinou the wikipedia one 13:50 Calinou maybe you should remove it from the topic 13:50 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2876 13:50 rubenwardy ok 13:50 PilzAdam hi RealBadAngel 13:51 rubenwardy sorted 13:55 NekoGloop Hello world of minetest 13:55 Calinou hi 13:55 PilzAdam hi 13:55 NekoGloop What wonders have you accomplished in my absence? ;) 13:55 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/246 13:56 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/4c2a45ab3f17591f0fd3471acf35c2cb4e7da1ab 13:56 Calinou let me test 13:57 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/246 13:57 Calinou what do you mean? 13:57 Calinou I can run fast/fly fast just fine 13:57 Calinou my Use key is R 13:58 PilzAdam to walk fast you have to press the use key 13:58 PilzAdam i want the same for flying 13:58 PilzAdam if you want to fly short distances fast its annoying to type j then fly and then type j again 13:59 Calinou it'd be of if it is optional 13:59 Calinou I like the default behavior 13:59 PilzAdam it would be same as walking fast; if you dont like it you dont have to use it 13:59 NekoGloop Calinou: "micro"blocks? 13:59 PilzAdam most users dont know how to walk fast 14:00 Calinou NekoGloop, 1/8th blocks; they can be placed individually and you can use them to /craft/ corner stairs 14:00 NekoGloop I see. 14:00 Calinou try putting in crafting grid a cobble block with a stick above 14:01 NekoGloop Basically half a panel? 14:01 Calinou :) yes 14:01 NekoGloop K 14:01 NekoGloop Hm, you just clogged up even more recipes lol 14:01 NekoGloop Still will be helpful for making parkour, etc. 14:02 Calinou also I adjusted selection boxes of stairs 14:02 NekoGloop Define "inner" and "outer" corner stairs...? 14:04 Calinou https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/temp/screenshot_8245052.png -- wood: inner, brick: outer 14:04 Calinou also, as you can see, mese pick has a new texture in misa pack :P 14:04 Calinou (image might 404; still uploading) 14:10 PilzAdam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6njTJp4uUM&feature=channel&list=UL 14:10 NekoGloop Oh, i understand now 14:11 PilzAdam good 14:11 PilzAdam what? 14:14 NekoGloop Calinou's corner stairs...? 14:30 rubenwardy so bored... 14:34 NekoGloop Yes 14:34 NekoGloop Me too :l 14:34 * PilzAdam too 14:42 rubenwardy lets talk about random stuff 14:43 PilzAdam whats you fav random generate algorithm? 14:43 rubenwardy no idea. anyone with a food related name 14:44 rubenwardy as in any one 14:45 rubenwardy what is yours? 14:46 rubenwardy food mod time... 14:48 NekoGloop Meow. 14:48 rubenwardy bark 14:50 rubenwardy mw ha ha ha 14:50 PilzAdam yay: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/c4f400acd01d1951c6355e2eec42d10d0a2d871a 14:51 jordach OldCoder, you here> 14:53 mw_ha_ha_ha ... 14:53 jordach Landmine IP GET! jordach bans 189.191.51.101|LanDMinE. 15:08 OldCoder Hi 15:08 OldCoder jordach, yes 15:08 OldCoder jordach, I am going to add the screenshot to the LandMine site 15:08 Octupus landmine is the talk of the day XD 15:08 OldCoder Oh? 15:08 OldCoder Where 15:08 OldCoder here? 15:08 OldCoder Octupus, ^ 15:09 Keegann guys guess what go to #gameboom 15:09 OldCoder landmine is the talk of the day XD 15:09 OldCoder Octupus, we are gathering information. Where are you talking about? 15:09 Octupus idk 15:10 OldCoder k 15:11 _2cool4me4_ Minetest wiki went down 15:15 thexyz it works for me 15:15 _2cool4me4_ The channel works fine, but no one is in it 15:15 _2cool4me4_ looks like it's over... 15:16 Guy12 Back. 15:16 PilzAdam wb 15:17 Guy12 Is Calinou online at this moment? 15:17 thexyz _2cool4me4_: oh, i thought you're talking about wiki.minetest.com 15:17 NekoGloop crafting is borked in 0.4.3? I cant craft a thing. 15:18 thexyz i guess neko is broken 15:18 NekoGloop haha. haha. 15:18 NekoGloop no seriously. 15:18 NekoGloop i cant craft anything. 15:18 rubenwardy no, i exited it 15:19 rubenwardy because this channel is so empty and no-one was using #minetest-wiki 15:19 NekoGloop anyone have any idea? 15:19 Guy12 Ruben you may know, Does Calinou have two Wikipedia accounts? 15:19 PilzAdam redownload 15:20 NekoGloop redownload? 15:20 NekoGloop redownload what? 15:20 PilzAdam everything? idk 15:21 rubenwardy he does 15:21 rubenwardy one is accidental 15:21 Guy12 Ah, I see. Ok. 15:22 Calinou poor Guy12 wants to report me 15:22 Calinou no 15:22 Calinou some random frenchie took Calinou 15:23 NekoGloop wth... 15:23 Guy12 I dont want to report, I was just wondering as there are two which have edited Minetest. 15:24 NekoGloop oooh i know 15:24 NekoGloop set the width of the player craftgrid but didnt reset it 15:25 NekoGloop its good for something, and that something is locking the player out of crafting 15:27 NekoGloop thexyz: set_width is borked 15:28 thexyz wat? 15:28 thexyz it. just. works 15:28 NekoGloop the set_width code 15:28 NekoGloop it disallows the player to craft anything 15:28 NekoGloop unless it's set to 3, which works 15:28 thexyz well, if you're using it wrong it's YOUR problem 15:28 thexyz by default crafting grid's width is 3 15:28 NekoGloop then tell me how to fix it 15:29 NekoGloop make it work with 2x2 15:29 thexyz i can't tell you how to fix that because i don't know what you did 15:29 thexyz i already posted pastebin link to working 2x2 crafting grid 15:29 thexyz see logs 15:29 NekoGloop workbench's 2x2 grid and the line player:get_inventory():set_width("craft", 2) 15:30 thexyz (19:28:07) thexyz: see logs 15:30 NekoGloop yeah, where do i find those again? 15:33 thexyz http://irc.minetest.ru/ 15:42 NekoGloop lol I'm blue on the logs 15:42 PilzAdam you are red in my Xchat 15:43 NekoGloop cool 15:43 NekoGloop as it happens i like red 15:43 _2cool4me4_ Neko is red when I see it in the logs 15:43 NekoGloop logs seem randomized 15:43 NekoGloop i just went back a day, i'm green now 15:44 PilzAdam TNT and throwing mod now use object:punch() to hurt players and other objects 15:45 NekoGloop so the items that get strewn across the landscape are also damaged? 15:45 PilzAdam nope 15:46 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/TNT/commit/edf28d3ab845b3b37dbc6d523b318072c8d3f5cd 15:46 rubenwardy you are a sick green in mine 15:48 NekoGloop thexyz: lol "of course it doesn't work otherwise how could it be merged to master branch?" 15:50 thexyz nickname color in logs is based on messages count 15:50 NekoGloop i see 15:50 VanessaE good morning all (barely) 15:50 NekoGloop so the more i talk, the less random it gets? 15:50 PilzAdam hi VanessaE 15:51 PilzAdam can someone point me to the current version of xdoors2? 15:52 NekoGloop the version that you dont use 15:52 VanessaE NekoGloop: doesn't that apply to half the mods in your install? ;) 15:52 NekoGloop yup 15:53 NekoGloop the one that was updated 0.3 secs after your downlaod 15:53 PilzAdam in the forum thread is only version 1 but Jeija said there is a version with mesecon support (https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/issues/47#issuecomment-8404634) 15:53 NekoGloop look at xyz's github 15:55 PilzAdam whats his github name? 15:55 Jeija https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/issues/47#issuecomment-8404634 updated 15:56 PilzAdam thx 15:56 NekoGloop xxyz, or xyzz. i dont remember :) 15:58 PilzAdam xyzz 15:59 NekoGloop well the 2x2 craftgrid just made my world 5% minecraft-ier 16:00 _2cool4me4_ That isn't the goal of this game. ;) 16:00 NekoGloop well if i get 101%+, then we are better than minecraft 16:00 NekoGloop and THAT is the goal 16:01 PilzAdam Jeija, when i have a button at the one side of the node and place a mesecon wire at the other side the wire turns into a insulated wire; when i do this with item_drop it drops a mesecon wire as item 16:01 _2cool4me4_ Death to wikipedia 16:01 Jeija Actually that's not an insulated wire, it just looks like that, because it behaves that way 16:02 NekoGloop pilzadam: because vanessae derped :D 16:02 VanessaE I did? 16:02 PilzAdam Jeija, i know; but the drop is the problem 16:02 NekoGloop yes :D 16:02 VanessaE bullshit. I am derp-proof 16:02 VanessaE "_ 16:02 VanessaE :) 16:03 * NekoGloop derps vanessae 16:03 NekoGloop how derp-proof are ya now?! >:D 16:03 _2cool4me4_ BAHAHAHAHAHA 16:03 _2cool4me4_ is a derp like a smurf? 16:03 VanessaE me stands un-derped. :) 16:04 _2cool4me4_ derp=smurf? 16:04 VanessaE /me even 16:04 * _2cool4me4_ is amazed 16:05 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=41799#p41799 <- Join now! 16:05 _2cool4me4_ lolwat 16:05 VanessaE haha 16:06 * _2cool4me4_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0stb5sgCk78 's vanessae 16:06 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/9cqtD.png 16:07 _2cool4me4_ you... what have you done? 16:07 VanessaE thexyz: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/nc.zip 16:08 VanessaE let's see the previously-discussed asshole claim copyright now :) 16:08 PilzAdam VanessaE, you are hurting copyright ;-) 16:08 Calinou I accidentally this channel 16:08 PilzAdam wb Calinou 16:08 thexyz that's non-copyrighted nyancat drawn by me 16:08 VanessaE Calinou: nice job on the corner stairs (at least, the screenshot) 16:08 thexyz inside minetest ^^ 16:08 VanessaE thexyz: the above zip is by me, WTFPL 16:09 _2cool4me4_ oops! google chrome could not own this page! 16:09 * Calinou slaps _2cool4me4_ for using google chrome 16:09 Calinou use chromium :P 16:10 cosarara97 use firefox 16:10 jordach GOOGLE CHROME FTW 16:10 * _2cool4me4_ slaps Calinou with a big red brick 16:10 NekoGloop thexyz: please give us that awesome rendition of painting mod 16:10 VanessaE I recommend everyone download my nc.zip file above and replace their local images with those. They're 100% better :) 16:11 _2cool4me4_ did I realy say that I couldn't own the page... I meant open 16:11 jordach VanessaE, ive seen chinese versions of nc better looking than that 16:11 jordach no joke 16:11 VanessaE :( 16:11 Calinou firefox = memory leal 16:11 jordach ive seen too many knock offs 16:11 NekoGloop IE FTW 16:11 Calinou leak* 16:11 Calinou lol 16:11 thexyz NekoGloop: well, that's easy to guess https://github.com/xyzz/painting 16:11 cosarara97 Firefox is awesome 16:11 _2cool4me4_ Yay! Internet Exploder! 16:12 cosarara97 That's not even a browser 16:12 NekoGloop lets explode some internets 16:12 VanessaE cosarara97: it's an infection vector. :) 16:12 jordach VanessaE, fangirl alert for FF 16:12 NekoGloop its a browser 16:12 NekoGloop and also what I'm using this very minute 16:13 _2cool4me4_ internet exploding time! 16:13 _2cool4me4_ to #_2cool4me4_channel24 16:15 _2cool4me4_ I'll get you for that neko 16:15 NekoGloop no you wont 16:18 VanessaE actually I use chromium sometimes too 16:18 VanessaE even links on rare occasion. 16:19 jordach chrome is better 16:19 VanessaE chrome is just chromium with a google flair. 16:19 cosarara97 it is 16:19 VanessaE (literally) 16:20 Calinou chromium === chrome but without tracking 16:20 NekoGloop easy as pi 16:49 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/247 16:49 rubenwardy we (VanessaE and I) are writing a letter to game reviewers to hopefully generate reliable sources for the wikipedia article. We have one problem, we are stuck in what to say. You can read the letter here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xBaKlMplRy-8qsPeMw4jO65nxctCeWUGa-Q0Jqx1lNk/edit 16:50 khonkhortisan please write about our game so we don't get deleted from wikipedia 16:51 PilzAdam "It is the best open source alternative for MC" 16:52 PilzAdam "It has a better modding API than MC" 16:52 VanessaE "In our opinion, it is the best [...]" 16:52 VanessaE It has a well-documented API compared to MC (which as yet still has none) 16:52 khonkhortisan it only shows my name on the top, not in the list of people, I think 16:52 khonkhortisan really?! Then how do they make mods? 16:53 VanessaE khonkhortisan: decompile the game code and modify it at the engine/renderer level. 16:53 VanessaE I think Notch has some sort of APi in the works now 16:53 VanessaE but when I last heard, it was incomplete and unreleased. 16:53 jordach yep 16:53 khonkhortisan which means if you're running a modded engine the rest of the code is reordered 16:53 VanessaE yup, basically. 16:54 khonkhortisan yuck 16:54 PilzAdam "Minetest has more potential than MC, because it has a better modding API" 16:54 PilzAdam "and its limited to one or two persons how decide what the game should be" 16:54 jordach sees VanessaE typing 16:55 khonkhortisan that's bugging me I see a spelling error and can't fix it 16:55 khonkhortisan thanks 16:55 PilzAdam lol "it is the best open source alternative for Minetest," 16:55 VanessaE haha didn't see that 16:56 jordach could i be added into the editors list> 16:56 khonkhortisan why does an anonymous user have one of those pointers in there? 16:56 PilzAdam "and its not limited to one or two persons how decide what the game should be" 16:56 rubenwardy if you have gmail, i can allow you to edit 16:57 rubenwardy just give me your gmail address 16:58 jordach jordach,snelling@gmail.com 16:58 jordach should be a dot 16:58 jordach not a comma 16:59 rubenwardy the recipents might not know what a virtual machine is, spell it out 16:59 PilzAdam "If you dont review it your childreen and or parents will die" 16:59 khonkhortisan huh. The list of viewers went away. 16:59 VanessaE now now 17:00 khonkhortisan don't sound like a griefer 17:00 jordach PilzAdam, dont be counter productive 17:00 PilzAdam it was a joke 17:00 PilzAdam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke 17:00 jordach and therefore runs much faster and with less lag than with a virtual machine. I CALL BULLSHIT 17:00 khonkhortisan I think the wiki joke link is more of a joke 17:01 PilzAdam :-D 17:01 jordach VanessaE, thank you 17:01 jordach for changing that wording 17:01 rubenwardy jordach, i have added you. close and reopen the document 17:01 M13 Jordach 17:01 jordach yes? 17:02 M13 hey a got a Question 17:02 VanessaE what? 17:02 khonkhortisan how do I show the other people's pointers again? 17:02 jordach right who is who on this document? 17:02 VanessaE dunno, they're just "on" for me 17:02 M13 nvm 17:03 PilzAdam we should mention the big community that develops the game 17:03 khonkhortisan I only see jordach, probably because he joined after me? 17:03 jordach i can see VanessaE# 17:03 jordach khonkhortisan, my nick is a word twist 17:03 khonkhortisan those words are coming out of nowhere 17:04 khonkhortisan that's better, just had to reload again 17:04 rubenwardy try reloading the page, or opening the "6 other viewers" tab 17:04 rubenwardy M13: we (VanessaE and I) are writing a letter to game reviewers to hopefully generate reliable sources for the wikipedia article. We have one problem, we are stuck in what to say. You can read the letter here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xBaKlMplRy-8qsPeMw4jO65nxctCeWUGa-Q0Jqx1lNk/edit 17:05 M13 Reviewing 17:05 jordach VanessaE, ill pick up on the spelling 17:05 VanessaE ok 17:05 rubenwardy if you want to edit, you need a gmail account. message me the email address so i can add you 17:06 VanessaE my typing style is messy, you never see it here if I pay enough attention before I hit enter 17:06 PilzAdam minetest has 121 forks 17:06 VanessaE <----- but over there? you see every last typo I make in realtime :-0 17:06 VanessaE :-) 17:06 khonkhortisan I don't think it matters as much, we stay away from moving pointers 17:07 jordach VanessaE, ill pick them up 17:07 rubenwardy i keep on disconnecting... 17:07 khonkhortisan do bad reviews still give notability? 17:08 jordach yex 17:08 jordach yes 17:08 jordach any dislike is a thumbs up to me 17:08 VanessaE as long as it's a review it's good enough 17:08 PilzAdam "The gameplay basics are similiar to MC, but its not that RPG-ish" 17:08 jordach either way, they voted 17:08 rubenwardy but bad reviews is not good 17:08 VanessaE "Any publicity is good publicity" 17:08 jordach yes 17:08 jordach exactly 17:08 PilzAdam +1 17:08 VanessaE old marketing axiom 17:08 rubenwardy http://www.atomicgamer.com/files/99167/minetest-v0-4-1-stable-for-windows-free-game 17:08 khonkhortisan the goal is to stick around 17:08 VanessaE of course 17:09 VanessaE good reviews are preferable 17:09 VanessaE but even a bad review gives us coverage 17:09 PilzAdam rubenwardy, thats copy and paste from homepage 17:09 rubenwardy damn 17:09 VanessaE yeah and lacks any kind of review :( 17:12 rubenwardy we are writing a letter, not a review 17:12 PilzAdam we should write the review ourself and tell them to print that 17:12 khonkhortisan that won't work 17:12 PilzAdam but the letter sounds like this 17:14 VanessaE well it still needs time to develop 17:15 rubenwardy ok 17:15 PilzAdam "The vanilla game is quite boring but the mods add new features to the gameplay" 17:15 rubenwardy hmm... 17:16 cosarara97 say quite "simple" ;) 17:17 khonkhortisan still need an in-game craft guide, that would make it simple 17:18 rubenwardy mod? 17:19 rubenwardy craft guide mod? 17:19 khonkhortisan you have to know how to craft the craft guide to know how to craft 17:20 rubenwardy damn, i just made you owner VanessaE, can you use the share tab an click the drop down to make me owner again? 17:20 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, you have to know how to breathe to play this game 17:20 VanessaE done :) 17:20 rubenwardy thanks 17:20 rubenwardy VanessaE, using the share tab you can add more editors 17:21 khonkhortisan but you can swim as long as you want - people that don't know how to breathe won't be suprised because of drowning 17:23 rubenwardy RealBadAngel: we (VanessaE and I) are writing a letter to game reviewers to hopefully generate reliable sources for the wikipedia article. We have one problem, we are stuck in what to say. You can read the letter here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xBaKlMplRy-8qsPeMw4jO65nxctCeWUGa-Q0Jqx1lNk/edit 17:24 rubenwardy if you want to edit, you need a gmail account. message me the email address so i can add you 17:24 jordach rubenwardy, wrong, a google account will do 17:25 jordach you can have a @ymail and it still works 17:25 jordach just as long you sign up for google services with a email account 17:25 rubenwardy ok 17:26 khonkhortisan I don't write group letters often enough 17:26 rubenwardy shall we add celeron to the editors? 17:26 rubenwardy ikr 17:26 khonkhortisan if he edited 17:26 khonkhortisan let's look like we're going behind his back 17:26 rubenwardy just to notify him... 17:26 rubenwardy ok 17:26 jordach rubenwardy, apparently your nick needs to be spell checked, yet mine does not? 17:27 rubenwardy no, yours does on mine 17:28 khonkhortisan both of them are flagged by spell check 17:28 Jeija http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/quantal/minetest << is this official? why isn't it updated? 17:29 Jeija (or was it just "accidentally" imported from debian and forgotten?) 17:30 rubenwardy jordach, maybe because your email address has jordach in it, or you added it to the dictionary 17:31 RealBadAngel just read ir 17:32 RealBadAngel it 17:32 RealBadAngel its ok with me 17:33 PilzAdam to whom you want to write the letter? 17:33 VanessaE I think we should use real email addresses, not "spam" accounts here 17:34 khonkhortisan yeah why put it on if you're not going to read it? 17:34 rubenwardy because those sorts of companies will add us to their spam list 17:35 RealBadAngel feel free to add mk@realbadangel.pl 17:35 VanessaE RBA: what's your real name? 17:35 rubenwardy i do read it, it is just not attached to rainmeter or my email checking browser app 17:35 RealBadAngel Maciej Kasatkin 17:35 RealBadAngel mk 17:35 khonkhortisan what's rainmeter? 17:36 rubenwardy desktop gadgets 17:36 khonkhortisan oh, desktop widgits 17:36 khonkhortisan what window manager? 17:41 VanessaE anyone else want to sign off on this letter? 17:42 * PilzAdam dont want to tell his real name 17:42 rubenwardy i have ign's email address, we need more 17:42 rubenwardy you do not have too 17:42 VanessaE well I guess we can allow just the handle if you really insist 17:42 PilzAdam adam-k@outlook.com 17:43 PilzAdam Adam "PilzAdam" K. 17:46 PilzAdam You can change celeron55 in the first paragraph to Perttu "celeron55" Ahola 17:46 PilzAdam ooops 17:46 VanessaE heh 17:46 PilzAdam didnt saw that... 17:46 khonkhortisan I did that 17:48 PilzAdam VanessaE, do you have access to all the forum e-mail adresses? 17:48 VanessaE I think so 17:49 PilzAdam add them all 17:49 VanessaE haha 17:49 khonkhortisan We're giving you these email addresses as proof of our userbase, but you didn't get them from us. 17:49 VanessaE ha! 17:50 PilzAdam someone should ask c55 to add his name and email 17:51 VanessaE celeron55: how about it? You want in on this? 17:51 khonkhortisan then we can move his name down to the bottom and leave the username at the top 17:51 VanessaE "I am Perttu 'celeron55' Ahola and I approve this message." 17:51 VanessaE heh 17:52 khonkhortisan we could do that 17:52 VanessaE naw 17:52 jordach no 17:52 VanessaE I'm just mocking the political ads I see on TV from time to time :) 17:52 PilzAdam "We are the MT community and want to ask ..." 17:52 VanessaE "We are the Minetest Community. We are legion." 17:52 PilzAdam +1151554 17:53 khonkhortisan "I am perttu 'celeron55' Ahola and I disapprove this message." But it was sent anyway. 17:53 PilzAdam lol 17:54 VanessaE heh 17:54 PilzAdam We are the Minetest Community. We are legion. We do not forgive someone who dont review MT. We dont forgett stupid game magazines. Expect mods!" 17:56 VanessaE hehe 17:56 khonkhortisan haha this isn't going to work well I'm trying to forward one gmail accont to another gmail account. I have to type in a confirmation number sent to the other email, but I can only be logged into one at a time. 17:57 VanessaE copy&paste to a text file :-) 17:57 khonkhortisan oh good, they have a link 17:58 jordach khonkhortisan, make them both mail each other, then you have a perma loop 17:58 jordach if one gets mail 17:58 khonkhortisan Does that work? 17:58 jordach yes 17:59 jordach does anyone here want to see apple trees again? 17:59 jordach https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/248 18:00 khonkhortisan what happened, you have to plant them yourself? 18:00 jordach no. 18:00 sfan5 jordach: the one who made apple trees wants to see them again 18:00 jordach they used to grow naturally 18:00 jordach i know sfan5 that puts em back again 18:01 khonkhortisan I get a big week-long banner warning me I'm forwarding email 18:01 jordach ikr 18:01 celeron55 wtf is going on? 18:02 VanessaE uh oh, The Boss is here, everyone hide 18:02 PilzAdam https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xBaKlMplRy-8qsPeMw4jO65nxctCeWUGa-Q0Jqx1lNk/edit?pli=1 18:02 celeron55 do not use my name anywhere without my permission (unless it is just stating who has made minetest) 18:02 VanessaE celeron55: read above - we were just joking 18:02 khonkhortisan that's how we have it 18:02 VanessaE (your name only appears as an identifier) 18:03 jordach developed by Perttu "celeron55" Ahola and contributors. 18:05 khonkhortisan is there a button to colorize everything by who wrote it? 18:05 celeron55 oh i see what you're attempting... well, i won't interfere with that 18:05 VanessaE celeron55: so the question stands, do you want to sign off on this letter also? 18:06 sfan5 PilzAdam: i can't edit that :( 18:06 PilzAdam ?? 18:06 sfan5 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xBaKlMplRy-8qsPeMw4jO65nxctCeWUGa-Q0Jqx1lNk/edit?pli=1 18:06 celeron55 no i don't; i don't like to promote my hobby stuff 18:06 PilzAdam thats not by me 18:07 celeron55 but i have nothing against others doing that 18:07 sfan5 PilzAdam: but how did you edit that 18:07 VanessaE sfan5: sign in with your google account 18:07 khonkhortisan sfan5, /msg rubenwardy your gmail to be able to edit 18:07 sfan5 i did 18:07 PilzAdam i dont edit anything 18:07 sfan5 ... 18:08 PilzAdam i dont have any google account 18:08 jordach ...i hope c55 does not look into his gmail........... 18:09 jordach hell see my pull request.. 18:09 PilzAdam gtg 18:09 khonkhortisan ^ reverse psychology 18:09 VanessaE haha 18:10 rubenwardy VanessaE, you can add editors 18:10 VanessaE let's make the margins bigger and the font smaller so we can at least keep this all on one page 18:10 VanessaE rubenwardy: yeah 18:11 khonkhortisan we could move the emails to the same line as the names again 18:11 VanessaE naw 18:11 VanessaE I guess it's fine as-is 18:15 khonkhortisan I see vanessa and sfan in the list twice each 18:17 M13 is a Windows user here? 18:17 VanessaE well google error'ed out on me, might just be a ghost from the signouff, hasn't ping'ed out yet. 18:17 VanessaE M13: no, noe one would ever use that obsolete OS. 18:17 khonkhortisan <-- not it! 18:17 VanessaE ;) 18:17 M13 ;) 18:18 M13 I need someone to compile the new version of Minetest-M13 18:18 M13 it has giveme command and 3D Players 18:18 VanessaE so go learn how to compile it for windows then 18:18 VanessaE 3d players? how? 18:18 M13 i dont have winodws 18:18 M13 windows* 18:19 khonkhortisan I'm not good at cross-compiling 18:19 M13 i dont know the commands to do it 18:19 M13 or i would 18:19 VanessaE to go learn them 18:19 VanessaE and use a virtual machine for testing 18:19 VanessaE to/so 18:20 khonkhortisan you could cross-compile for wine, but I wouldn't trust the results 18:20 M13 Wine wont install the compiler 18:21 khonkhortisan I mean natively cross-compile it then run the binary in wine 18:21 M13 o 18:22 M13 how do you natively cross-compile? 18:22 VanessaE go learn how, M13 18:22 VanessaE google it. 18:22 M13 WHERE 18:22 M13 o ok 18:23 Keegann sfan5 will you compile minetest for M13? 18:23 M13 hes not here 18:23 sfan5 maybe 18:23 M13 ooo 18:24 M13 i get errors when i do it sfan 18:24 khonkhortisan the nonexistant speaketh! 18:25 M13 well if you can sfan5 download src here : http://minetestm13.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/1/7/13179023/minetest-m130.4.4_2-20120910-source.tar.gz 18:25 khonkhortisan what page would minetest go on if it didn't have its own page? 18:25 VanessaE on WP? nowhere 18:26 VanessaE if it isn't notable enough for an article, it'll probably just get removed from whatever does reference it 18:27 jordach VanessaE, i get more speed with windows xp than anywhere else 18:27 M13 lolz /\ (windows XP) 18:28 VanessaE no surprise, video support on linux is shit compared to windows 18:28 M13 NO 18:28 M13 no its not 18:28 Keegann :/ 18:28 M13 i got 5 fps on windpws 18:28 M13 now i get 60 18:28 jordach drivers 18:28 VanessaE I say that as a strict Linux user. 18:28 jordach BSD 18:28 jordach BSD 18:28 M13 i did update drivers 18:28 jordach B 18:28 jordach S 18:28 jordach D 18:29 khonkhortisan I go to text mode when my driver is in the passenger seat 18:29 M13 i will never use Windows again 18:29 khonkhortisan I will use windows and mac again 18:29 M13 >:( 18:29 jordach unless you buy a new tower with windows 8 18:29 M13 mac is worse 18:29 jordach hello MuadTralk; ddzen 18:30 MuadTralk hello 18:30 jordach ive learned that all three do the same since everything nowadays is done on the cloud 18:30 BartoCH jordach, hurd! hurd! 18:31 * jordach raises hurd! shield 18:31 khonkhortisan I find myself writing function posprint(pos) print("("..pos.x..", "..pos.y..", "..pos.z..")") end often 18:32 jordach you joking 18:48 jordach Reckon Man MIGHT BE Landmine 18:48 Keegann i know he is 18:50 Guy12 Hey 18:55 sfan5 jordach: landmine detected 18:56 VanessaE ReckonMan: please say something. 18:57 ReckonMan hi, i was afk, i went to have something to eat 18:57 ReckonMan and all your claims are false 18:57 ReckonMan im relativly new to the game 18:57 VanessaE ok 18:58 VanessaE Just a yellow flag, nothing to worry about. 18:59 ReckonMan its ok 18:59 sfan5 80% chance 19:00 sfan5 (of landmine) 19:00 Keegann AGREED 19:00 VanessaE speaking of getting something to eat, I could use a little food myself. 19:01 OldCoder Keegann, abide by the group decision 19:01 VanessaE too much popcorn, not enough protein. 19:01 Keegann y 19:01 OldCoder VanessaE, have some bacon 19:01 VanessaE all out 19:01 OldCoder Hmm 19:01 VanessaE got lots of canned chicken though :) 19:01 jordach VanessaE, i thought you cant due to illness? 19:01 OldCoder Chicken is good 19:01 OldCoder Illness? 19:01 VanessaE jordach: illness? naw. you're thinking of that surgery I had a few months ago, but all of the healing is done from that now 19:02 VanessaE I'm back to a normal diet and losing weight at a fair rate too 19:02 jordach nononononono, having to eat sugar free, that sort 19:02 VanessaE oh, naw, that's a side effect of the surgery, but isn't an illness as such. 19:03 VanessaE wish I had some peanut butter and jelly right now though. I could really go for that. 19:03 * jordach calls it technical 19:03 * jordach sends 20$ via paypal to VanessaE - free subway! 19:03 VanessaE mmmm subway 19:03 ReckonMan did you really jordach? 19:03 * sfan5 wishes he has paypal 19:04 jordach im joking 19:04 sfan5 ReckonMan: *biggest facepalm ever* 19:04 jordach i do have a 5euro amazon voucher 19:05 jordach im testing my pull request 19:07 sfan5 you didn't test it before submitting? 19:09 M13 sfan5: will you compile it for me? 19:09 * VanessaE returns, wielding a can of chicken 19:09 M13 Minetest-m13 19:09 sfan5 M13: maybe 19:10 M13 so.... 19:10 M13 you'll randomly do it if you feel like it 19:12 sfan5 .... 19:17 Mikeonline night 19:20 jordach whats the first thing i see on the tree in my branch?? AN APPLE! 19:21 jordach celeron55, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/248 this fixes apples so that they can be found naturally again 19:27 hmmmm yuck 19:27 jordach annnnddddd thennnnn? 19:27 hmmmm whatever was added in between 4.2-RC1 and 4.3 is causing intense spikes of cpu usage when a node is placed 19:27 hmmmm so much that gameplay freezes up for at most a second or two 19:28 VanessaE hmmmm: try digging at a chest or furnace. watch your FPS drop. 19:28 jordach hahahahaa 19:28 VanessaE (at least it might take a high-resolution texture pack to show it) 19:28 jordach yeah, i notice this too 19:28 hmmmm that didn't seem to do anything 19:29 VanessaE hmmmm: load up any highrez pack, like minetoon, jordach's equivalent, my HDX, whatever. it'll lag like hell digging furnaces, chests, and some mesecon items like wall levers 19:29 VanessaE but not when digging dirt, cobble, etc. 19:29 hmmmm interesting 19:30 hmmmm i don't use high resolution packs though 19:30 VanessaE well try one :-) 19:31 VanessaE you can only see this happen with a bigger texture pack 19:31 hmmmm i am not really interested in seeing it for myself. i'll take your word for it that there's a problem. 19:31 VanessaE it started at about the same time that furnaces were moved to lua 19:41 hmmmm by the way, what do you guys think about the color of desert sand? 19:41 VanessaE it could stand to be a little less saturated but otherwise it's fine to me 19:41 hmmmm well, really, everything in the default texture pack is oversaturated 19:46 sfan5 M13: you can't cross compile minetest-m13, the cmakelists file is too old 19:46 sfan5 +for cross compiling 19:52 hmmmm it's not when a node is dug, it's when it's being added to your inventory 19:52 hmmmm that's when the freezeup happens 19:52 VanessaE no, both 19:52 VanessaE while digging it sometimes get so slow the game crashes in rare cases. 19:53 VanessaE unless it's being added to the inventory dozens of times a second :-) 19:53 hmmmm i need to look at the commits 19:54 hmmmm this is unbearable 19:54 jordach VanessaE, can you try my server quickly? 19:54 VanessaE sure 19:54 jordach (0.4.3) 19:54 jordach youll see apples 19:54 VanessaE address again? I keep losing it 19:56 jordach minetest.zapto.org 19:56 jordach 30000 19:56 * VanessaE signs in 19:57 ecube hello 19:58 M13 M13: you can't cross compile minetest-m13, the cmakelists file is too old : ok 19:58 M13 thats why i need someone to compile it 20:00 VanessaE jordach: seems good, reduce the chance to 1/16 or 1/32 and I think you have a winner 20:02 M13 sfan5: is it possible to install the Windows Programs through Wine and compile for Windows? 20:02 jordach VanessaE, try 20:05 jordach VanessaE, now have a whirl 20:07 hmmmm christ almighty 20:07 * VanessaE gives ir a whirl 20:07 VanessaE this is a fresh map? 20:07 hmmmm having to wait several seconds for a login attempt is perfectly fine 20:07 jordach yes 20:07 hmmmm having the entire game freeze up when you dig a node is perfectly fine 20:08 VanessaE too many apples. 20:08 jordach even at 1/32 20:08 VanessaE halve the ratio again 20:08 hmmmm having the mapgen complete shit is perfectly fine 20:08 hmmmm no regular person would be this complacent 20:09 jordach VanessaE, started at 1/8, then on 1/32 now to 1/64 20:09 VanessaE jordach: try it? 20:10 hmmmm maybe you guys aren't bothered by any of it 20:11 hmmmm the three second or longer delay when you try to move an item to your inventory 20:11 hmmmm all that sort of stuff 20:11 hmmmm i am though 20:11 VanessaE please don't give up 20:11 VanessaE we need developers. 20:12 hmmmm celeron doesn't even develop minetest anymore from what i've noticed 20:12 hmmmm it's a dead project, i think i'm out 20:12 VanessaE sure he does 20:12 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/master\ 20:12 VanessaE er, lose the backslash 20:12 NakedFury he works on it 20:13 NakedFury slowly but he works 20:13 thexyz also this https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/meta_set_nodedef 20:13 NakedFury the problem is not many here know c++ or dont want to spend time learning the code 20:13 thexyz ^ agree 20:13 NakedFury or when they come instead of help him they make a new fork 20:14 jordach new world made 20:16 jordach VanessaE, 1/64 is even worse 20:16 jordach gtg 20:17 VanessaE now how the hell am I supposed to sign on if he turns off the server? :) 20:30 M13 hello thexyz 20:30 M13 how are you 20:31 thexyz ? 20:32 M13 ? : ? 20:33 M13 Question : Why doesnt Celeron55 add 3D players to Minetest 20:36 VanessaE M13: http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=dev:player_visual_definition 20:36 VanessaE that's c55's explanation of what's needed for 3d players. 20:38 thexyz 19:45:56 < thexyz> why just don't use "real" 3d models? 20:38 thexyz 19:46:29 < celeron55> because i don't like making them 20:38 M13 o my fork isnt running the latest git so... 20:38 hmmmm i know somebody here is going to yell at me for suggesting this but... why not just make them blocky 3d models like minecraft? 20:39 hmmmm he doesn't have to make the models either, there are lots of people who would be willing to do that 20:39 M13 yea 20:39 NakedFury I would like something between blocky and more real 20:40 NakedFury but any way to add 3d would be welcome 20:40 VanessaE OpenArena models seem ok to me 20:40 hmmmm then you'd be able to make your own model for that 20:40 VanessaE and irrlicht can load those apparently. 20:40 celeron55 VanessaE: that is painfully old 20:40 hmmmm from what i understand there are 3d models already, no? the rotating cubes for the dropped nodes 20:40 VanessaE celeron55: it's the only reference I could find. 20:41 M13 Vanessa: Can you Commute to my fork by making some textures for 3D Player's (Seen your textures, You know how to do it) 20:41 celeron55 what one should be looking for is implementing a 3d model based visual mode for objects in general 20:41 VanessaE M13: I'll pass. 20:41 M13 ok 20:42 celeron55 there are notes in here too about it http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=code:objects_in_environment 20:44 celeron55 oh and, there is some related work in blockplanet_old and lesliev's branch 20:53 VanessaE celeron55: did you get a chance to look at those nc images I linked to? 20:53 celeron55 no 20:53 VanessaE ok. just trying to save you some effort. 20:53 celeron55 that is like the lowest priority of things until a bit before the next release 21:06 Keegann hes back 21:08 ReckonMan yeah i had to go out 21:11 Keegann so you releted to LandMine? 21:11 ReckonMan no, how do i ignore people 21:12 ReckonMan VanessaE how do i ignore people 21:14 celeron55 i guess the web client has the /ginore command 21:14 celeron55 eh 21:14 celeron55 /ignore 21:15 Keegann why do you want to ignore 21:15 VanessaE bbiab 21:15 Keegann http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2948 21:15 Keegann opps 21:18 ReckonMan celeron55 it says IGNORE Unknown command 21:19 Keegann :) 21:19 celeron55 guess it doesn't have it then 21:19 ReckonMan guess not 21:19 ReckonMan i just wont read what ever he types then 21:19 Keegann who 21:22 OldCoder Keegann, let it lie 21:22 Keegann lie? 21:22 OldCoder be 21:23 OldCoder Let it be; like the song 21:23 OldCoder Whisper Words of Wisdom 21:23 OldCoder When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me 21:23 OldCoder Speaking words of wisdom, let it be 21:23 OldCoder And in my hour of darkness she is standing right in front of me 21:23 OldCoder Speaking words of wisdom, let it be 21:23 OldCoder 21:32 VanessaE back 21:36 OldCoder VanessaE, wb 21:36 OldCoder Had chicken? 21:36 VanessaE naw, just some personal stuff 21:38 iqualfragile m13: please dont distibute music you dont own 21:38 iqualfragile that could get you into serious trouble 21:38 M13 im not 21:39 VanessaE what music? 21:40 iqualfragile you are, the music-mod on your website 21:40 iqualfragile contains a song 21:42 iqualfragile additionaly i assume that your minetest-server sends this song to all clients wich connect 21:42 OldCoder MuadTralk, Hi 21:42 VanessaE what song is it? 21:44 * NekoGloop kicks #minetest 21:44 VanessaE now now, what'd the poor channel ever do to you? 21:45 NekoGloop It... It made me hungry. :3 21:45 VanessaE haha 21:45 NekoGloop :D 21:45 * VanessaE hands NekoGloop a cookie 21:45 iqualfragile but we liked all those cookies! 21:45 * NekoGloop eats it 21:47 M13_ OldCoder 21:47 OldCoder M13_ 21:47 OldCoder He kicked a channel? 21:47 M13_ I got LandMine of our back 21:47 OldCoder How so? 21:47 NekoGloop Yes, i kicked a channel 21:47 OldCoder Hmm 21:47 OldCoder But you are in the channel 21:48 OldCoder Doesn't that involve some sort of distortion to the space time continuum? 21:48 NekoGloop Yes 21:48 OldCoder k 21:48 M13_ I gave him a server 21:48 NekoGloop Which i'm skilled at 21:48 OldCoder M13_ That will change nothing 21:48 M13_ thats it 21:48 OldCoder NekoGloop, very well 21:48 M13_ he isnt going to mess with Keegan or anything no more 22:00 VanessaE hey RBA. 22:00 MiJyn hi rba 22:01 * NekoGloop kicks RealBadAngel 22:05 VanessaE you kicked him in the wrong spot :-) 22:05 Bad_Command Hey the speed limiter is killing the playability on mt1 22:05 NekoGloop ... Well, it was meant to be painful. 22:05 Bad_Command Lag or whatever 22:05 Bad_Command Anyone know how to deal with that problem? 22:05 VanessaE Bad_Command: I think you can disable it in minetest.conf 22:06 VanessaE disable_anticheat = true 22:06 VanessaE maybe 22:06 Bad_Command Looking in to it...thanks 22:07 VanessaE it won't help the lag but maybe it'll keep people from lag-teleporting 22:09 Bad_Command disable_anticheat disables too much: it also disables digging cheat protection 22:09 VanessaE hrm 22:09 VanessaE so much for that idea 22:10 VanessaE I guess you'll have to hack into the server code :-/ 22:10 Bad_Command It did however lead me to the antispeed code 22:10 VanessaE ohgood 22:10 Bad_Command There's a tolerance knob in the code; perhaps that should be exposed in the config file 22:11 VanessaE agreed 22:12 Bad_Command celeron55: ^^ etc 22:13 Keegann_ Reckon join #OldCoder 22:15 OldCoder Keegann_, I am kind of busy 22:19 LAD_ XD 22:26 MiJyn ? 22:27 MiJyn having internet problems LAD? 22:27 LAD no 22:27 LAD y u ask 22:28 VanessaE because you connected and disconnected four times in 3 minutes without speaking 22:28 LAD oh lol 22:28 LAD oldcoder was geting me setup on hexxhat 22:28 LAD so he made me do that 22:28 LAD couse i did something wrong 22:28 VanessaE oh ok 22:28 LAD XD 22:28 iqualfragile my BRAIN it BURNS 22:29 * VanessaE dumps a bucket of water over iqualfragile's head 22:29 iqualfragile thankyou, but i think i realy need sleep and a stupid boring tast to do afterwards 22:29 iqualfragile school sounds great 22:29 VanessaE oh fun 22:30 OldCoder I did not! 22:31 LAD hmm 22:33 Basstard` Get to it. 22:36 VanessaE hey cisoun 22:37 cisoun hey 22:37 cisoun sup 22:37 VanessaE not much 22:42 Basstard` Fix the article on Wikipedia. 22:44 VanessaE we've been trying. 22:44 VanessaE nothing we do is good enough for the deletionists so far 23:00 MuadTralk my suggestion make minetest-c55 somehow be related to cats then it shall rule the interwebz 23:01 FreeFull Well it already has nyancats 23:01 FreeFull Someone could make a nyancat temple world 23:02 MuadTralk http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/101283/cats-internet-memes-science-aesthetics# 23:03 MuadTralk we must over exaggerate the nyan cat in game 23:03 VanessaE no 23:03 MuadTralk at least in the wikipedia article 23:03 VanessaE the guy who claims ownership of nyancat is being an asshole 23:04 VanessaE (but I fixed that, as soon as c55 plugs in the new images I linked him to) 23:04 MuadTralk hmmm? 23:05 VanessaE ? 23:05 VanessaE ha, speaking of cats. 23:05 NekoGloop Meow. 23:05 FreeFull Ok, remove nyancat, make a general cat temple 23:05 FreeFull It could be called the gato gate 23:05 VanessaE FreeFull: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/nc.zip 23:05 NekoGloop Neko = cat in japanese :3 23:06 VanessaE ^^^ entirely c55's and my work - not one pixel in those images is the original now. 23:06 FreeFull There is a program called Neko 23:06 FreeFull Where a cat chases your cursor 23:06 NekoGloop Not one pixel in the one that's in currently is the original 23:06 VanessaE the player model I use in OpenArena is the neko model :-) 23:06 NekoGloop The original isnt 3d 23:06 FreeFull And your cursor gets changed to a mouse 23:07 NekoGloop So therefore, a 3d nyancat cannot be held as his copyright 23:07 VanessaE neko: doesn't matter, it was still close enough to draw the guy's ire. Now he has no complaints 23:07 VanessaE NekoGloop: I guess the face is nearly identical, but not in my images :) 23:08 NekoGloop Meow 23:08 * MuadTralk can only see minimal difference and thus trys to strain his perfect and very discerning eyes 23:09 * MuadTralk forgets what original nyan cat looks like 23:09 NekoGloop Lol 23:09 VanessaE I tried to keep the differences subtle enough to still invoke nyancat but different enough to be my own work 23:09 VanessaE (and c55's) 23:14 NekoGloop Meow 23:20 VanessaE meow 23:23 NekoGloop Meow~! 23:24 * VanessaE whines... redcrab:30401 is down :( 23:24 NekoGloop Kewl 23:27 VanessaE very un-cool, that was my favorite server 23:27 NekoGloop Maybe he's upadting? 23:28 VanessaE dunno 23:28 VanessaE looking at the output from the last minetestmapper.py run, the map look corrupted D" 23:28 VanessaE D: 23:52 VanessaE zzz 23:53 * NekoGloop gives vanessae coffee 23:53 VanessaE heh 23:56 OldCoder NekoGloop, Meow back 23:56 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi and PM 23:56 VanessaE hi