Time Nick Message 00:01 FreeFull Yesterday I ate sandwiches, a jacket potato, a pomegranate, banana and pizza 00:01 VanessaE neko, you do realize it's going to take a *shitload* of nodeboxes to make an enchanting table look right, yes? 00:02 NekoGloop vanessae: you do realize i'm not working on the *shitload* of code an enchanting table needs, yes? 00:02 FreeFull Because minetest doesn't allow rotating nodeboxes 00:03 NekoGloop who gives a fuck if it rotates 00:03 VanessaE well if you're not working on it, who will? :-) 00:03 NekoGloop someone 00:03 NekoGloop someone other than me 00:04 FreeFull If you want a rotated cuboid, you need a fuckton of nodeboxes to make it look right 00:04 NekoGloop freefull: re: who gives a fuck if it rotates 00:04 VanessaE NekoGloop: I think he means the flipping-pages effect 00:05 FreeFull And the book covers 00:05 NekoGloop no the actual book turns at you 00:05 VanessaE (not to mention the book co--- yeah 00:05 VanessaE well rotating the whole book is easy - render it into an entity the way Animals does, and then set the pitch/yaw/etc as needed 00:06 VanessaE even the flowing glyphs effect would be easy (more entities) 00:06 NekoGloop checking the amount of bookcases: shit hard 00:07 VanessaE not at all 00:07 VanessaE very easily done 00:07 FreeFull Shouldn't be too hard to count the number of bookcases in a certain radius 00:07 VanessaE there's a function to find nearby nodes of a given name 00:07 NekoGloop but to make sure they are 1 block away? (not adjacent) 00:07 VanessaE - find_nodes_in_area(minp, maxp, nodenames) -> list of positions 00:07 VanessaE iterate through the returned list to get a count 00:08 VanessaE I asume minp/maxp are the inside and outside radii of the search region 00:08 NekoGloop trying to process your command returned a nil value, function may not exist 00:08 VanessaE (the APi doesn't say) 00:08 NekoGloop (i.e. idk what you just said) 00:08 VanessaE who gives a shit if it exists, always require the latest version ;-) 00:09 NekoGloop heh 00:09 VanessaE wait, no, minp/maxp are probably {x,y,z} positions defining the search cube. 00:09 VanessaE that makes it even easier. 00:10 NekoGloop ERROR[main]: NekoGloop.exe is unable to process the function: "give_a_shit". Program must shut down. 00:10 VanessaE This program has performed an illegal operation and must be shut down. 00:10 VanessaE :) 00:10 FreeFull Division by don't give a fuck 00:11 NekoGloop ERROR[main]: NekoGloop.exe is attempting division by zero. You may experience lag. 00:11 FreeFull 0/0 gives you an error 00:11 FreeFull But 0.0/0.0 will give you +Inf 00:12 FreeFull Actually, no, NaN 00:12 FreeFull 1.0/0.0 will give you +Inf 00:12 NekoGloop DEBUG[sub]: NekoGloop.exe has encountered difficulties processing constant "+Inf" 00:13 NekoGloop DEBUG[main]: NekoGloop.exe is attempting to open program "black_magic_of_lua.exe". Allow? 00:13 FreeFull Yes 00:14 NekoGloop FATALERROR[main]: NekoGloop.exe is unable to find program "black_magic_of_lua.exe", but process has highest priority. 00:15 NekoGloop DEBUG[main]: ErrorTrace: folder "C:\Program Files\lua_powahs\" does not exist 00:17 NekoGloop DEBUG[main]: NekoGloop.exe does not have folder permissions to folder "C:\Program Files\", yet NekoGloop.exe is attempting to access folder "C:\Program Files\". Allow? 00:18 NekoGloop ok well that killed the chat 00:19 Octupus hello 00:19 FreeFull Hi 00:19 Keegann Octupus join #minetest-m13 00:26 NekoGloop i'm really bored lol 00:27 NekoGloop i have no idea what i just made: http://ompldr.org/vZmVudw 00:29 Keegann hey landmne 00:29 Keegann LandMiine join #minetest-m13 00:29 Octupus hola miseal 00:30 NekoGloop VanessaE: any idea what to call this: http://ompldr.org/vZmVudw ? lol 00:30 LandMine hi 00:30 VanessaE no clue, except it looks like the hilt for some fancy sword 00:30 LandMine im griefing his server at the moment Keegann lol 00:30 MiJyn NekoGloop: SWORD! 00:31 Keegann NO 00:31 Keegann wait whos 00:31 Octupus lm who u griefing? 00:31 LandMine m13 00:31 NekoGloop m13, duh 00:31 Keegann dont 00:31 Octupus y 00:31 LandMine his 30001 server 00:31 NekoGloop i even got that 00:31 Keegann dont 00:31 LandMine i already did lol 00:31 Keegann dont 00:31 Octupus your phoniex 00:31 LandMine burned down a giant house 00:31 LandMine and lava;d spawn 00:31 Keegann dont 00:31 Keegann stop' 00:32 Keegann plz stop 00:32 NekoGloop landmine: did you at least take a suvenier? 00:32 LandMine ohh yeah 00:32 Keegann serio 00:32 LandMine i got stuff hidden everywhere lol 00:32 Octupus he shitting with u keegan lol 00:32 LandMine im not actually 00:32 Octupus there aint no lava 00:32 LandMine come check it out 00:32 LandMine ohh its his 30000 00:33 Octupus oh 00:33 LandMine m13.sytes.net:30000 00:33 Keegann landmine sto[ 00:33 Keegann you login as my name 00:33 Octupus stop griefing landmine 00:33 LandMine i didnt login with your name 00:33 LandMine im landmine lol 00:34 Keegann LandMine STOP NOW 00:34 MiJyn or else... kick or... 00:35 LandMine hmm why should i stop keegann? 00:35 Octupus i found your chest landmine 00:36 LandMine lol yeah 00:36 Keegann mother fucker i thought you change 00:36 LandMine i got a couple more 00:36 LandMine lol 00:36 LandMine got out quick 00:36 LandMine hahah 00:38 Octupus landmine u didnt change i cant believe i believed u 00:39 LandMine i did change man 00:39 Octupus so y u still griefing 00:40 Keegann stfu 00:40 NekoGloop because he got more crafty 00:40 NekoGloop tricking you into beliving him was part of the plan 00:40 LandMine lol 00:40 NekoGloop it's so obvious, I'm surprised you all didnt see it. 00:41 Octupus IL GO APE SHIT ON YOUR ASS 00:41 LandMine wow octupus me and you are cool brha 00:42 Octupus FUCK U 00:42 VanessaE ok that's enough. 00:42 VanessaE all three of you. 00:42 Keegann LandMine hope you get hit by a fucking bus 00:42 LandMine lol 00:42 NekoGloop which three lol 00:42 LandMine lol 00:42 LandMine you 3 00:43 NekoGloop ... well that was... interesting... 00:44 Octupus ok vanessa srry 00:44 VanessaE problem solved. 00:44 Octupus i didnt mean to go ape **** on his *** but he griefed a very good friend 00:44 Keegann screw him 00:45 NekoGloop dont you see...? It's all part of his plan. 00:45 NekoGloop Am I the only one here who could see landmine's plan? 00:45 NekoGloop If so, no wonder I'm good at chess. 00:46 VanessaE I figured he was going in that direction 00:46 Keegann shut up 00:46 Octupus he lucky i was pissed :) 00:46 VanessaE keegan, please don't continue 00:47 Keegann ok 00:47 Keegann >:( 00:48 * NekoGloop gives keegann a glass of mtn dew and tells him to calm down 00:52 VanessaE Mt. Dew and you expect him, a 12 year old mind you, to calm down? 00:52 VanessaE with all that caffeine!? 00:52 Keegann why not root beer 00:52 NekoGloop i calm down with mtn dew... 00:52 OldCoder Better than real beer 00:52 VanessaE (nevermind the sugar content) 00:53 VanessaE beer? ick. 00:53 VanessaE evening OC. 00:53 OldCoder I stopped a few months ago 00:53 OldCoder Hi 00:54 NekoGloop I'm supposedly working on an enchanting table 00:54 OldCoder Geez that is a... lively exchange above 00:54 NekoGloop yes it is 00:54 VanessaE NekoGloop: yep, you raised the idea, so now it's all up to you to do it ;) 00:54 Octupus i dont drink sodas 00:54 NekoGloop lol 00:54 NekoGloop its all up to me 00:54 OldCoder Iced Teas are good 00:54 Octupus yep 00:54 Keegann hope LandMne gets hit by a bus 00:54 NekoGloop and its gonna get done in -666 years 00:54 Octupus LIM 00:54 Octupus LIME 00:55 * VanessaE offers up some hot vegetable+chicken broth 00:55 * NekoGloop declines vanessae's offer 00:55 Octupus ohhh so vanessa u been in the hunger games now hmmmmm 00:55 VanessaE no 00:55 VanessaE I don't care for that. 00:55 Octupus lol 00:55 Octupus I HOPE PEETA DIES 00:55 NekoGloop i wonder if there will be another minetest hunger games 00:55 NekoGloop I missed the first one 00:55 Octupus and gale and katniss get married :) 00:56 Octupus the quell is dumb 00:57 VanessaE its a concept that, honestly, I find disgusting. kids fighting each other to the death? no. just, no. 00:57 Keegann its cool 00:57 Octupus but katniss won so i guess shes a boss 00:58 Octupus peeta was like a dieing cow 01:00 VanessaE meh. I still don't see the appeal. 01:00 NekoGloop i just realized the hunger games server is open 01:00 VanessaE evening chaplain/thomas. 01:01 chaplain evening VanessaE :) 01:01 chaplain hope you're lovely 01:01 Octupus if i be in hunger games me and vanessa going be from discrict 12 01:01 Octupus XD 01:01 chaplain doing lovely even 01:01 VanessaE chaplain: as soon as I get my fur smoothed back down 01:01 VanessaE :) 01:02 * chaplain pats VanessaE's fur back down 01:02 Keegann wth 01:02 VanessaE haha 01:02 Octupus vaneesa u wanna come to the reaping with me ? 01:02 VanessaE uh, no. 01:03 Octupus discrict 12 01:03 NekoGloop who wants to play hunger games on infinity's server? 01:03 Octupus i let u kill me first :) 01:03 VanessaE pass. 01:03 OldCoder How sweet 01:03 OldCoder You get to kill first :-) 01:03 Keegann if landmine was my partner would kill him before the games start 01:03 * OldCoder laughs 01:04 NekoGloop anyone? 01:04 Octupus lol 01:04 Keegann then let him get hit by a bus 01:04 NekoGloop c'mon we dont need that many people 01:04 Octupus i wud blow the place up like how catnip did XD 01:04 NekoGloop although... i do appear to be stuck. 01:04 NekoGloop wait hold on 01:05 NekoGloop forgot about shift high jump 01:05 Octupus rue was the best fighter in the hunger games 01:05 NekoGloop (its a 0.4.2-rc1 server) 01:06 NekoGloop who wants to do hunger games... minetest.ru:55555 01:06 Keegann no one 01:06 Octupus build in discrict7 please 01:06 Octupus i wan to kill the captitol 01:07 NekoGloop aaaanyone? 01:07 NekoGloop there's gotta be someone : 01:07 NekoGloop :l* 01:07 VanessaE no. 01:07 VanessaE :) 01:07 NekoGloop why not? 01:08 VanessaE because I don't like PvP? 01:08 VanessaE if I want that I can just go frag a bunch of bots in OpenArena. 01:19 VanessaE NakedFury: *looks at -delta* ... sit still dammit :) 01:19 NekoGloop lol 01:24 NekoGloop would it be -that- hard to make a sword be damaged when hitting a player/mob? 01:25 VanessaE I'd think that would be prettyeasy? 01:25 NekoGloop then why isnt it in? 01:25 VanessaE dunno 01:25 NekoGloop its just wierd, using a wooden sword to kill 1k+ players 01:25 Feorth Hey guys, what's the command to give privileges to someone? 01:26 VanessaE I mean, you can tell when an entity has been hit (I assume a player too). can't a function be executed to reduce the health of the weapon? 01:26 VanessaE Feorth: /grant priv,priv,... 01:26 VanessaE (for however many privs you want to list) 01:26 VanessaE so /grant singleplayer fly,fast 01:26 Feorth Thanks Vanessa ;) 01:26 VanessaE or /grant Feorth all 01:27 VanessaE be careful when granting privileges. 01:27 VanessaE always consider the potential harm such can do 01:27 Feorth I see, thanks a lot. 01:27 VanessaE yw 01:28 NekoGloop dont give ban to someone with a nonpassword-ed account 01:28 NekoGloop :D 01:32 VanessaE ah, RBA should be along any minute now 01:32 NekoGloop heh 01:32 VanessaE (he always seems to join for real right after a timeout ;) ) 01:32 NekoGloop generally, yes, i've noticed that as well 01:32 NekoGloop maybe the timeout alerts him, and that makes him pay attention. 01:33 VanessaE I always assumed it was a restart of his computer or client or so 01:33 Keegann hello 01:33 VanessaE hikeegan 01:33 * Keegann is so mad 01:33 VanessaE don't be mad 01:34 VanessaE drink a red bull, go kill some bots or something, blow off some steam 01:36 Keegann omg 01:36 VanessaE ? 01:37 Keegann hate him so much 01:37 VanessaE everyone does. 01:37 Keegann hes still talking to me 01:37 VanessaE /ignore 01:37 NekoGloop /ignore LandMine 01:37 Keegann t still doesnt help 01:37 Keegann he just reconnects 01:38 VanessaE Keegann: ignore by IP address then. he can change nick all he wants, but he can't force your client to listen to an IP it wants to ignore 01:38 VanessaE /ignore *!*@whatever.his.host.is.now 01:38 Keegann i did that once 01:38 VanessaE and keep doing it until he runs out of IP addresses 01:38 NekoGloop then rejoin yourself under a different nick 01:39 VanessaE if he has access to a hundred IPs/hosts as he claims, you block all 100 of them as he switches around 01:40 VanessaE sooner or later, he runs out of choices. 01:40 VanessaE the probability of you blocking someone you actually want to talk to is fairly slim 01:40 Keegann doubt that 01:40 VanessaE trust me on this. 01:41 * VanessaE <-- used to be an ISP admin plus 17 years of IRC experience. 01:41 NekoGloop or he just gets annoyed as fuck and goes away 01:41 NekoGloop :) 01:41 VanessaE exactly 01:41 VanessaE either he gets bored or he runs out of options 01:44 NekoGloop i have an idea for what to call the previously linked thing 01:44 NekoGloop "Diaminian Sword" :D 01:45 VanessaE What, no Diamondium or Diamondillium? ;-) 01:45 NekoGloop its obsidian sword with diamond extension 01:45 NekoGloop :P 01:46 NekoGloop uses technic diamonds 01:46 VanessaE cool 01:46 NekoGloop all dependencies will be optional for this mod, as they are only in recipes 01:48 NekoGloop "[21:48] == FreeFull [~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover] has joined #minetest" I think he likes sausages ;) 01:49 NekoGloop anyone care to tell me how to set the inventory craftgrid to work as a smaller ver.? 01:50 VanessaE dunno, ask thexyz ;) 01:50 NekoGloop I'm assumming lua_api.txt is vague as hell, if its in at all 01:50 NekoGloop OH I SEE 01:50 VanessaE that makes one of us :D 01:50 NekoGloop set_width(listname, width) 01:51 NekoGloop now to figure out wth to plug in to the function ;) 01:51 NekoGloop how do i call the inventory of a player? 01:52 NekoGloop player:inv: ? 01:52 VanessaE dunno, never tried 01:52 VanessaE evening 2cool 01:52 _2cool4me4_ hola! 01:52 _2cool4me4_ sorry, no upside down exclamation point 01:52 VanessaE ¡hola! 01:53 * _2cool4me4_ wonders what kind of keyboard vanessaE has 01:53 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jJZA-O_B78 FLANDRE SCARLET RANDOMNESS!! :D 01:53 Keegann hello 01:53 VanessaE a regular 105 like everyone else has. I just programmed it to allow for the compose keystroke per khonkhortisan's idea :-) 01:53 _2cool4me4_ cool 01:54 _2cool4me4_ Windows has character map for that 01:54 _2cool4me4_ :( 01:54 VanessaE in windows, ALT+keypad 01:54 NekoGloop µ 01:54 NekoGloop HOLY SHIT 01:54 VanessaE three or four digits gets you a character 01:54 VanessaE µ 01:54 NekoGloop I HAVE NO IDEA HOW I TYPED THAT 01:54 VanessaE m u 01:54 VanessaE compose* 01:54 NekoGloop æ 01:54 NekoGloop cool 01:55 VanessaE ! ! --> ¡ 01:55 NekoGloop Ü this is 666 01:55 _2cool4me4_ whoah, that's cool 01:55 VanessaE a e --> æ 01:55 VanessaE etc et 01:55 _2cool4me4_ what's the microcontroller icon? 01:55 NekoGloop alt+unicode # 01:55 NekoGloop look it up on charamap 01:55 NekoGloop (i'm too lazy) 01:56 _2cool4me4_ I have alt gr on this keyboard, but it doesn't work 01:56 _2cool4me4_ it acts like a normal alt key 01:56 VanessaE mu is probably Alt-181 01:56 _2cool4me4_ ¦ 01:56 NekoGloop ╡ 01:57 VanessaE try 230 01:57 NekoGloop nope 01:57 _2cool4me4_ nope 01:57 NekoGloop µ 01:57 NekoGloop 230 01:57 _2cool4me4_ µ 01:57 VanessaE you're using DOS Legacy mode then :-) 01:57 NekoGloop minetest doesnt like 2x2 grids :P 01:57 _2cool4me4_ µµµ 01:57 _2cool4me4_ that's a lot of work 01:57 NekoGloop µ230 µ1254 01:58 NekoGloop its both? 01:58 _2cool4me4_ µ 01:58 _2cool4me4_ I only get one 01:58 NekoGloop do both numbers 01:58 Keegann how do you delete a channel? 01:58 _2cool4me4_ leave it 01:58 NekoGloop keegann: you dont 01:59 _2cool4me4_ F 01:59 VanessaE tøø máñý şýmbø£ś 01:59 _2cool4me4_ that's 2301254 01:59 NekoGloop ☼ 01:59 NekoGloop i have no idea :) 01:59 VanessaE Keegann: an IRC channel? you just /part and when the last person leaves, the channel disappears, unless it's registered, 01:59 * NekoGloop face-keyboarded there 02:00 Keegann its register 02:00 _2cool4me4_ ? can anyone see that symbol? 02:00 NekoGloop no 2cool 02:00 VanessaE what symbol? 02:00 _2cool4me4_ the one at the start of that message, icechat says ? 02:00 NekoGloop oh 02:00 NekoGloop you did type a ? 02:00 VanessaE it's just a question mark for me 02:00 _2cool4me4_ no, I didn't type a question mark 02:00 NekoGloop literally, you typed a ? 02:00 _2cool4me4_ I can' 02:01 _2cool4me4_ t see it either 02:01 NekoGloop well what did you press? 02:02 NekoGloop ugh, how do i make the player's craftgrid be 2x2, but not have every 3x3 recipe fail? 02:02 VanessaE NekoGloop: afaik, 2x2 grids shift everything around 02:03 VanessaE what was A B C 02:03 VanessaE D E F 02:03 VanessaE G H I 02:03 NekoGloop no i know 02:03 VanessaE becomes A B 02:03 VanessaE C D 02:03 VanessaE oh ok 02:03 NekoGloop set_width should work 02:03 Keegann hello poca 02:03 _2cool4me4_ mesecon wire is hard 02:03 _2cool4me4_ hard wiring 02:03 VanessaE naw, it's easy stuff. making stuff *with* it can be hard ;) 02:03 NekoGloop its soft 02:04 NekoGloop soft and fluffy 02:05 NekoGloop ah, it only works if the mods depend on the mod that declares the player to have 2x2 02:06 NekoGloop eh...? 02:06 NekoGloop my recipe is invalid...? 02:06 leo_rockway I don't want to add fuel to the fire, but this thread says 4.3 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2974 02:07 * NekoGloop hears vanessae's banhammer raise slightly 02:07 NekoGloop ok forget what i said about depending 02:07 * VanessaE leaves the banhammer in its holster. 02:07 VanessaE leo_rockway: perhaps you should re-load that thread ;) 02:08 NekoGloop lol 02:08 NekoGloop you edited it, you sly dog 02:08 VanessaE yup 02:08 leo_rockway huzzah! 02:08 NekoGloop wat da fawk 02:08 VanessaE less trouble than getting in an argument, less egregious than banning 02:08 NekoGloop my thing isnt working 02:08 VanessaE NekoGloop: use more lube? 02:08 * VanessaE runs 02:09 NekoGloop how do i call the inventory of the fawking player 02:09 NekoGloop nvm i found it :) 02:10 NekoGloop HOLY SHIT THAT WORKED 02:12 VanessaE what worked? 02:12 _2cool4me4_ calling on player inventory? 02:15 NekoGloop yeh 02:15 NekoGloop cant tell if I'm just lagging or player inventory crafting screwed up again 02:16 NekoGloop lol its not working AT ALL 02:16 NekoGloop (either that or i screwed up the recipe for this item) 02:17 NekoGloop nope, it doesnt work at all 02:17 NekoGloop not even on an angle like usual 02:17 NekoGloop well that sucks ;_; 02:22 NekoGloop it seems to recognize i set the size, but not actually allow crafting 02:23 NekoGloop aaaaand noone gives a shit so I'll shut up now 02:24 NekoGloop do people even test these things before releasing them? 02:25 NekoGloop is the problem at line 780 in inventory_manager.cpp? 02:26 NekoGloop or lines 48 & 49 of player.cpp? 02:27 NekoGloop seriously, I'm lost here. 02:29 LandMine_ i mback lol 02:29 LandMine_ lol 02:29 LandMine_ lol 02:29 LandMine_ lol 02:29 LandMine_ lol 02:29 LandMine_ lol 02:29 LandMine_ lol 02:29 Keegann fucker 02:29 LandMine_ VanessaE fuck you you fat CUNT! 02:29 _2cool4me4_ I hope you get k-lined 02:29 LandMine_ hahhaah 02:29 leo_rockway wow 02:29 NekoGloop he left lol 02:29 NekoGloop jsut as he was banned 02:30 NekoGloop you know, i dont give a shit that i misspelled that 02:30 _2cool4me4_ is there a way to ban his nick? 02:30 leo_rockway Mexican 02:30 leo_rockway _2cool4me4_: yes 02:30 NekoGloop called /ignore 02:30 NekoGloop :D 02:31 _2cool4me4_ I tried to /ignore, but now he can message me again 02:31 NekoGloop because of the _ 02:31 _2cool4me4_ hrm 02:31 NekoGloop ignore LandMine_ as well 02:31 _2cool4me4_ he can use ssh tunneling to get on if he gets banned... *gran* 02:32 _2cool4me4_ *groan* 02:32 NekoGloop heh 02:32 MiJyn whatever 02:32 MiJyn banning is unethical 02:32 MiJyn doesn't matter how annoying the person in 02:32 _2cool4me4_ Not when you do that 02:32 MiJyn *is 02:32 NekoGloop celeron55 and/or thexyz: does set_width just not work? 02:33 _2cool4me4_ Cause and effect. He spams the page and he gets banned. 02:33 _2cool4me4_ page, channel, whatever :P 02:34 VanessaE and now he messages me, "why did you ban me, hun?" 02:34 VanessaE pfft 02:34 leo_rockway is the nick registered? 02:34 leo_rockway I don't remember how to check 02:35 VanessaE MiJyn: banning may be unethical if undeserved, but if the original reason (constant trolling) isn't, the immediate above most certainly is. 02:35 VanessaE leo_rockway: not sure 02:35 _2cool4me4_ what is that mode tag? 02:35 VanessaE b 02:35 MiJyn MiJyn: banning may be unethical if undeserved, but if the original reason (constant trolling) isn't, the immediate above most certainly is. 02:35 _2cool4me4_ I meant what does it do? ;) 02:36 VanessaE wait, which mode tag? 02:36 _2cool4me4_ +b 02:36 VanessaE that's the irc shorthand for ban. 02:36 _2cool4me4_ hmm 02:36 NekoGloop its a channel mode, keeps the ip from joining 02:36 MiJyn VanessaE, like, for example, how I was banned on #minetest-dev. I was helping, but I wasn't "elite enough" 02:36 MiJyn even though I know C/C++ very well 02:36 MiJyn plus I worked on the minetest codebase for months 02:37 MiJyn on various different sections 02:37 VanessaE MiJyn: I won't begin to explain celeron55's reasoning for using bans 02:37 MiJyn and plus, LandMine wasn't being bad 02:37 VanessaE I use them only sparingly and usually only when someone's being an asshole 02:37 MiJyn he wasn't swearing 02:37 MiJyn maybe a bit of spamming 02:37 MiJyn but he stoped 02:37 MiJyn *stopped 02:37 VanessaE [09-07 22:29] VanessaE fuck you you fat CUNT! 02:37 NekoGloop mijyn: who's side are you on? 0.o 02:37 VanessaE really? :-) 02:37 MiJyn NekoGloop, LandMine! 02:38 MiJyn VanessaE, okay, once 02:38 MiJyn or a few times 02:38 MiJyn he wasn't exactly being terrible 02:38 MiJyn I'd ban someone if he was trying to destroy my product 02:38 _2cool4me4_ mijyn: how about every time he joins the channel? 02:38 MiJyn I don't care if he swears or calls me thigns 02:38 MiJyn *things 02:38 _2cool4me4_ He is trying to destroy the natural order of the channel. 02:38 VanessaE MiJyn: every time I see him, he launches some sexist insult at me in particular 02:38 NekoGloop mijyn: banning is supposedly nothing for landmine to get over. so let's ban him all we want 02:38 VanessaE usually some variant of how I belong in the kitchen. 02:38 MiJyn 2cool, nope, he isn't destroying minetest 02:39 MiJyn VanessaE, okay, and? I wouldn't mind if I were you 02:39 _2cool4me4_ mijyn: but he is trying to destroy the working of the channel 02:39 VanessaE I can take that much. 02:39 MiJyn NekoGloop probably not, but why ban him? 02:39 VanessaE but when he fucks with everyone and then launches into a tirade? ban. 02:39 MiJyn 2cool, no, he isn't. I know that for a fact 02:39 MiJyn VanessaE, WHO CARES? The best way is ignoring! 02:40 MiJyn just pretending not to know he's there 02:40 MiJyn he'll learn 02:40 MiJyn what you are doing is just feeding him 02:40 MiJyn you are not any better than him if you are doing that 02:40 MiJyn you are just hurting him and others 02:41 VanessaE um... 02:41 VanessaE as c55 would say, 'ehm, wut?' 02:41 _2cool4me4_ using xchat on ubuntu, and unaffiliated? 02:41 MiJyn 2cool, okay...? 02:41 _2cool4me4_ No point. 02:41 MiJyn VanessaE, ugh, you are one of those types... No better than C55... Can never be corrected... 02:42 VanessaE MiJyn: the problem is, he hasn't learned. 02:42 MiJyn because people kept feeding him! 02:42 MiJyn By banning him! 02:42 MiJyn oldcoder what can i do so these people can love me again? 02:42 MiJyn he said that 02:42 OldCoder Hi 02:42 OldCoder ?? 02:42 VanessaE yeah because he's trolling OC. 02:42 * OldCoder is confused 02:42 OldCoder Is somebody addressing me? 02:42 MiJyn I know that type of person. He's just trying to get himself back up 02:43 _2cool4me4_ You can go back to sleep 02:43 MiJyn nope 02:43 OldCoder k 02:43 MiJyn :) 02:43 VanessaE OC, go back to sleep ;) 02:43 OldCoder I am not sleeping yet 02:43 OldCoder Folks: My proposal is this: 02:43 OldCoder A bot that kicks based on nick plus patterns of insults 02:43 OldCoder Would allow participation and free speech but impose limits 02:44 _2cool4me4_ sounds like something in the Ubuntu channel 02:44 OldCoder They have that? 02:44 MiJyn no 02:44 _2cool4me4_ they have a lot of bots 02:44 _2cool4me4_ maybe not one that does that, but a lot 02:45 MiJyn 2cool, Y U CTCP ME? 02:45 _2cool4me4_ sowwy 02:45 MiJyn :P 02:45 _2cool4me4_ iNosy 02:46 MiJyn ugh, Now vanessae is doing this :/ 02:46 VanessaE ;) 02:46 _2cool4me4_ sorry about the whois, vanessa, I was trying to hit Landmine 02:46 _2cool4me4_ but I missed the right click 02:46 VanessaE doesn't bother me at all :-) 02:46 _2cool4me4_ never type /ping (channel) 02:46 _2cool4me4_ too many replies 02:47 _2cool4me4_ I would hate to ping #Ubuntu 02:47 VanessaE I don't hide behind proxies, bouncers, TOR, etc., or bother with a handle. :-) 02:47 _2cool4me4_ did my nick get unregistered again? 02:47 _2cool4me4_ nope 02:48 _2cool4me4_ PING 02:48 leo_rockway pong? 02:48 _2cool4me4_ Reply: too long 02:48 VanessaE Ping, Pong, has have or had pung. 02:49 leo_rockway I have a handle and I'm connected through ssh 02:49 _2cool4me4_ I'm connected through dhcp :P 02:49 * _2cool4me4_ is tiredd 02:51 _2cool4me4_ good night all 02:51 VanessaE nice 2cool 02:51 _2cool4me4_ and now for a funny quote 02:52 VanessaE "No, not the WED one! Don't EVER push the WED one!" 02:53 MiJyn ? 02:53 VanessaE Daffy Duck, from a Looney Toons episode 02:54 VanessaE (I forget the name, DD was a salesman pushing a House of the Future) 02:54 Octupus i like daffy 02:55 VanessaE (he was mocking Elmer Fudd's lisp) 02:55 MiJyn oh 02:55 MiJyn lol 02:59 VanessaE damn it that's gonna drive me crazy..what was the episode? 02:59 VanessaE Design for Leaving? 03:01 VanessaE yup, that's the one 03:20 OWNSyouAll So does anyone know if you can use rollback_check to see all the blocks changed in a spot? 03:22 VanessaE no clue 03:24 khonkhortisan …pong 03:30 khonkhortisan youtube is too slow to transcribe daffy duck's speech 03:33 Keegann hey 03:33 VanessaE it IS incredibly slow tonight in facy. 03:33 VanessaE fact* 03:45 khonkhortisan does worldedit need nodes to be defined for //replace to work? 03:46 VanessaE no 03:47 VanessaE as long as you use the exact node name and they're within parts of the map that are loaded. 03:48 MiJyn wow 03:48 MiJyn Keegann is _nice_ here? 03:48 MiJyn how? 03:48 khonkhortisan I get Invalid search node name 03:48 khonkhortisan and it's the same name as what's not defined 03:48 VanessaE weird 03:49 VanessaE well it *used* to work 03:49 khonkhortisan //replace mesecons_crossing:crossing mesecons_extrawires:crossing 03:49 Keegann shut it 03:50 Octupus key 03:50 Octupus pm me 03:50 Octupus i need 2 have a chat 03:50 Keegann kick MiJy 03:50 khonkhortisan ? I don't think that's enough for a kick 03:51 MiJyn me neither :P 03:51 VanessaE Keegann: please don't start 03:51 VanessaE MiJyn was only being sarcastic 03:51 Keegann Kick him plz 03:52 Keegann no he wasnt 03:52 khonkhortisan _sarcastic_ remark 03:52 Keegann he was with landmine 03:52 VanessaE when? 03:53 Keegann now 03:53 khonkhortisan with landmine doing what? 03:53 Octupus keegan read the pm 03:53 Keegann against me 03:53 khonkhortisan I like that I can dig undefined nodes 03:54 Octupus keegan did u read the pm 03:55 khonkhortisan if anyone pms me I get it in a separate tab, so it takes me some time to find it 03:58 Octupus bye 04:05 * MiJyn sighs 04:05 Keegann serio! 04:08 MiJyn ? 04:09 Keegann bye 04:28 cy1 anyone here? 04:28 cy1 I reset my map the other day. 04:29 khonkhortisan I see you reset to remove jungle holes 04:29 cy1 Anyone want to see what new stuff? :3 04:29 cy1 khonkhortisan: yeah, but 04:29 khonkhortisan you have vines and glow-in-the-dark bananas 04:29 cy1 I spent all today remaking your 4-helix staircase. 04:29 cy1 haha glow-in-the-dark is right 04:29 cy1 they also heal like 3.5 hearts 04:30 khonkhortisan how do you make it glow? not setting paramtype but setting param? 04:30 cy1 I also reset the map because my "epic maps" generation algorithm wasn't working. So now it is. 04:30 cy1 I dunno! Have to check the source. 04:31 cy1 Ah 04:31 cy1 Its drawtype is "torchlike" 04:31 cy1 The drawtype for apples is "plantlike" 04:31 khonkhortisan Are insulated mesecons made with soluble or insoluble fiber? 04:31 cy1 torchlike probably ignores lighting effects (since torches generate their own light 04:31 cy1 ) 04:31 cy1 insulated...? 04:31 khonkhortisan but just saying torchlike doesn't create light 04:31 khonkhortisan yes, you craft fiber and mesecons to get insulated 04:32 cy1 no, but it ignores darkness. 04:32 cy1 what good are insulated mesecons? 04:34 khonkhortisan you can put rows of wires right next to each other 04:35 khonkhortisan for circuit boards 04:38 cy1 ooh neat 04:54 cy1 I prefer making actual circuit boards <_< 04:54 VanessaE too much trouble :-) 04:55 VanessaE (and I know, I've made enough of 'em :-) ) 04:55 cy1 burnt fingers are a sign that you're doing well! 04:55 khonkhortisan a three-way junction needs a special function to tell how much power is on each wire 04:55 khonkhortisan battery + wire + a very steady hand = a spark 04:55 cy1 by prefer I mean I dislike making actual circuit boards. 04:55 VanessaE haha 04:56 khonkhortisan So american "traveling" or australian "travelling"? 04:58 OldCoder VanessaE, you don't sleep much 04:58 VanessaE naw, I sleep plenty, I just don't keep a predictable schedule 04:58 khonkhortisan Shall I make a pull request for crossed wire? 04:59 VanessaE yes 04:59 khonkhortisan Request Pulled. 04:59 VanessaE what'd you settle on for making them appear? 04:59 khonkhortisan um, I didn't yet. It's still crafting two wires, then crafting back. 05:00 VanessaE oh ok 05:01 khonkhortisan But I wrote all three ways in the pull request 05:01 khonkhortisan Is that what I think I see? I see a Merge pull request button! 05:02 * VanessaE sees one also ;) 05:02 VanessaE let's let Jeija take a look first :-) 05:02 * khonkhortisan is scared of the power to change other people's code 05:02 VanessaE muahahahah 05:02 VanessaE but, 05:03 VanessaE he'll be back soon 05:03 TiredCoder Zzz 05:04 khonkhortisan This looks familiar, I can assign it to someone and to a milestone. 05:04 khonkhortisan cy1 I can't connect 05:04 khonkhortisan nevermind 05:06 VanessaE HA! 05:06 VanessaE speak of the devil and he shall appear 05:06 khonkhortisan hello! 05:06 VanessaE Jeija, I believe you have some code waiting for you ;) 05:06 * khonkhortisan didn't press the wed one 05:11 Jeija merged already :) 05:11 VanessaE cooool 05:12 khonkhortisan it auto-updated my page 05:12 khonkhortisan So for my stuff (gates, crossed wire) is it acceptable to merge my own pull requests? 05:17 Jeija yep khonkhortisan, for those that I merged yet. Please tell me about new ones 05:17 Jeija (new ones = totally new nodes, not gates neither crossings) 05:18 * VanessaE tries to think what else mesecons could benefit from.. 05:19 Jeija the only thing I can think of is that we're still missing vertical wires 05:20 VanessaE yes 05:22 khonkhortisan those require exceptions, I think 05:23 khonkhortisan okay, so modifications of nodes I created are fine, but notifications for creation of new nodes. 05:31 VanessaE oh it just hit me.. 05:32 VanessaE how about some kind of object that takes up 2x2 nodes (stacked vertically) and takes up to 4 inputs from one face, turns one of 16 colors depending on the inputs 05:33 M13 hello 05:33 VanessaE (RGBI) 05:33 VanessaE hi M13 05:33 M13 Hey 05:33 M13 have you seen my Fork 05:33 M13 I got a C++ coder helping me 05:34 VanessaE I know play using vanilla and a bunch of mods 05:34 M13 ? 05:34 VanessaE s/know/only/ 05:34 M13 its UbuntuNerd VanessaE 05:34 VanessaE I know. 05:34 M13 o ok 05:34 VanessaE Ubuntunerd aka madchicken13 05:34 M13 yep 05:35 M13 i got my own channel for my fork 05:35 M13 ##minetest-m13 05:35 M13 but... 05:35 M13 yea.. so what are you up to? 05:36 VanessaE watching cartoons at the moment. 05:36 M13 awesome what cartoon? 05:37 VanessaE oh just some classic looney toons stuff 05:38 M13 o 05:38 M13 um can you crosscompile? 05:39 VanessaE nope, I don't know how. 05:39 VanessaE compiling is easy, cross-compiling I've never dealt with before. 05:41 VanessaE morning sfan5 05:41 sfan5 hi 05:42 M13 sfan5 can 05:42 M13 hey sfan can you cross compile? 05:42 sfan5 yep 05:42 sfan5 you could've answered that question yourself 05:43 M13 can you be a contributor to my fork 05:43 sfan5 maybe 05:43 M13 can you just cross compile my updates for my fork 05:43 M13 i have two versions 05:43 sfan5 github repo? 05:44 M13 no a site : minetestm13.weebly.com 05:44 M13 http://minetestm13.weebly.com 05:45 sfan5 well i need a link that does not change but always links to the latest version src 05:45 M13 click download and download the tarballs 05:46 M13 http://minetestm13.weebly.com/downloads.html 05:46 sfan5 i need a link that does not change but always links to the latest version src 05:46 M13 o 05:46 M13 i cant upload stuff to my github (DONTKNOW HOW) 05:47 M13 (Dont Know How)* 05:47 VanessaE go read the instructions then :-) 05:47 cy1 cross-compiling is something you typically only have to do for Microsoft. Coincidentally it's also a pain in the ass for Microsoft. 05:48 cy1 M13: just give us a git repository, on github or wherever. 05:48 M13 GitHub is Complicated >:( 05:48 cy1 that's all I need. 05:49 VanessaE github is easy to use 05:49 M13 i can give you the download link 05:49 VanessaE just do some reading. 05:49 cy1 download != synchronize 05:49 M13 http://minetestm13.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/1/7/13179023/minetest-m130.4.20120907_source.tar.gz 05:49 cy1 yeah, but I just want to download your changes, not the whole source. 05:50 cy1 I also want a record of what you've done, that I can go forward and backward through, merge and cherry-pick. 05:50 sfan5 M13: just use github 05:50 M13 can someone help me with it 05:50 M13 i made a repo 05:50 cy1 gitorious > github, both are really superfluous though... 05:50 M13 how do i upload files 05:51 cy1 M13: you fork celeron55's repository 05:51 cy1 then upload to that 05:51 M13 o ok 05:53 cy1 make a new repository works too, only difference is github doesn't let you make pull requests then. But you can make a pull request on IRC 05:53 M13 can you tell me how to cross compile? 05:53 cy1 hey celeron55 plz pull my changes thx 05:53 cy1 M13: For what OS, on what OS? 05:53 M13 Ubuntu 12.04 32 bit 05:54 M13 wait 05:54 M13 why is it so hard to download the src and compile it? 05:55 VanessaE it isn't. 05:55 cy1 I already have the source. 05:55 cy1 Just not your changes. 05:55 M13 this source is modified and works : http://minetestm13.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/1/7/13179023/minetest-m130.4.20120907_source.tar.gz 05:56 cy1 so you say 05:56 M13 it is 05:57 M13 OldCoder did it 05:57 M13 hes my C++ person 05:58 M13 ill try gitorious 05:58 cy1 it's the same as github really 05:58 cy1 tell OldCoder to do it though, it's his changes so it's his job. 05:58 cy1 alternatively just talk about your changes here. if we are intrigued your source may be downloaded. 05:59 M13 he cant cross compile , not many can 06:00 khonkhortisan I worldedited a 81x81x81 4-iteration 160,000 cobblestone menger sponge and it skipped two stones 06:00 cy1 Four stones. 06:00 cy1 I got 2 of them. 06:00 VanessaE khonkhortisan: that's insane. 06:00 M13 ok what do i need to install to cross compile? 06:01 khonkhortisan not as insane as making it by hand (only got about halfway) 06:01 cy1 M13: To cross compile on Windows, first you hit your friend over the head with a chair, then you install Linux really quick on his computer, then just give him the binaries :x 06:01 M13 I have Linux 06:01 M13 I need to Compile to Windpws 06:01 khonkhortisan and rename firefox.desktop to IE.desktop and change the icon 06:01 M13 Windows* 06:01 cy1 yes, to compile to Windows, the easiest method involves blunt head trauma theft and vandalism 06:02 M13 well it looks like im booting the old Windows XP Black edition 06:02 M13 Damn 06:02 khonkhortisan is it just me or does the fog not cover up the blocks disappearing when I move? 06:03 khonkhortisan oh yeah, I was going to fill it with water 06:03 cy1 but if you want the hard way, just get the mingw32 cross compiler which is available in Linux, then use it to compile your base libraries like irrlicht, openGL, openAL, etc. Then use it to compile minetest. 06:03 M13 thats it 06:03 cy1 oh, yeah or just get a hacked copy of windowz 06:03 cy1 you didn't hear it from me though! 06:04 M13 i have Windows XP Black Duh 06:04 M13 its Free 06:04 khonkhortisan //replace air default:water_flowing didn't work 06:04 khonkhortisan how do I replace air? 06:05 cy1 "free" heh 06:05 M13 yea bit torrent 06:05 khonkhortisan just like minecraft free 06:05 VanessaE no version of windows is free 06:05 cy1 khonkhortisan: that'd just flow all out to nothing... 06:05 VanessaE pirated != free 06:05 M13 ??? 06:05 khonkhortisan but how do I tell it to turn air into something? 06:06 VanessaE khonkhortisan: try a comma :-) 06:06 VanessaE //replace air,whatever 06:06 cy1 air is the name of air, I dunno... 06:06 M13 What are the command to use this? 06:06 khonkhortisan it doesn't like commas 06:06 cy1 if you mess up my world though I'll rollback a backup >:( 06:06 cy1 try /help /replace 06:06 khonkhortisan I have my pos limits set 06:06 M13 ill ask someone to compile it 06:07 VanessaE odd 06:07 VanessaE I thought it was just changed to need the comma 06:07 khonkhortisan //replace 06:07 khonkhortisan maybe this is an old one 06:07 cy1 I installed the latest worldedit like yesterday... 06:07 cy1 from git :p 06:08 VanessaE ok maybe it's a space then :-) 06:08 VanessaE anyway, time to hit the sheets. good night. 06:08 khonkhortisan I can't replace cobblestone either? 06:10 khonkhortisan oh, default:cobble 06:10 khonkhortisan now, what's air? 06:12 khonkhortisan oh, it changes "air" to "default:air" which doesn't exist 06:12 khonkhortisan I think 06:12 sfan5 <khonkhortisan> //replace 06:12 sfan5 <khonkhortisan> maybe this is an old one 06:12 sfan5 no its the latest version 06:13 khonkhortisan then can you tell me how to replace air? 06:13 khonkhortisan /set air //replace air default:cobble it doesn't work 06:13 sfan5 lemme test 06:15 sfan5 you're right 06:15 sfan5 it doesn't work 06:16 cy1 air must not be search-able 06:16 khonkhortisan worldedit.set takes the parameters as they are, while worldedit.replace adds "default:" if there's no ":" 06:16 cy1 maybe a special command to replace air... 06:16 cy1 oh damn 06:16 cy1 khonkhortisan: that'd do it 06:16 khonkhortisan it would work if it didn't change "air" to "default:air" before replacing 06:17 khonkhortisan should be 'if searchnode:find(":") == nil and not searchnode == "air" then' on line 50 06:18 khonkhortisan or searchnode ~= "air" actually 06:18 cy1 I'll change it really quick. 06:19 khonkhortisan yeah, that fixed it. 06:19 khonkhortisan Now, do aliases have the same problem? 06:19 cy1 fixed it? 06:19 cy1 I haven't changed it yet :> 06:19 khonkhortisan yeah "if searchnode:find(":") == nil and searchnode ~= "air"then" 06:19 khonkhortisan I tried it myself 06:20 cy1 oh, 'k 06:23 sfan5 this is my fix: https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit/commit/ce9ce35a20c9280813161b6783aac39c15ed1f70 06:24 sfan5 if the node exists, proceed | if not, prefix "default:" 06:24 khonkhortisan huh. That's probably more likely to work for aliases 06:24 cy1 sfan5: awesome, will pull that. 06:24 khonkhortisan But then it still might not be registered, and won't throw an error 06:25 khonkhortisan you beat me to getting it on github 06:26 khonkhortisan sfan5, that doesn't seem to work 06:27 sfan5 it works 06:27 sfan5 i tested it 06:27 khonkhortisan oh, oops forgot the nil 06:29 khonkhortisan now what's with this function? With no changes, //replace cobble air works just fine, and //replace air cobble doesn't. 06:29 khonkhortisan it shouldn't treat searchnode and replacenode differently. 06:29 khonkhortisan They should both have the same checks 06:31 sfan5 lol http://octodex.github.com/minion/ 06:35 sfan5 http://octodex.github.com/nyantocat/ 06:35 sfan5 khonkhortisan: https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit/commit/a429e104a24b4d218733056dff4d681ec76036da 06:36 khonkhortisan much better 06:38 cy1 CPU at 101% eh 06:38 khonkhortisan I //copy y 0'd the whole cube 06:38 cy1 not //replace air default:water_flowing ? 06:38 khonkhortisan probably every node moved triggers water or something crazy like that 06:38 cy1 every node placed gets water moving again. 06:38 khonkhortisan No, then it would go out the side 06:39 cy1 yeah, but the side water would run out 06:39 khonkhortisan it looks like columns of rain in the center of the side of it 06:39 cy1 <3 06:39 khonkhortisan 531441 nodes copied 06:40 cy1 ok should settle down in a few minutes then 06:40 cy1 unless the server overheats again... 06:41 khonkhortisan sfan5, your second if needs another indent :P 06:42 sfan5 i know 06:43 khonkhortisan want to see the water sponge? 06:45 khonkhortisan swimming through water should update it 06:49 khonkhortisan I want to move the water source down one node so it's inside the cube, but the server isn't responding yet 06:49 khonkhortisan I wonder if a single player can run two overlapping worldedit commands at the same time 06:51 thexyz http://pastebin.com/FAv70Kuz 06:52 khonkhortisan sorry cy1 I think it's at a crawl 06:53 thexyz > NekoGloop celeron55 and/or thexyz: does set_width just not work? 06:53 thexyz of course it doesn't work otherwise how could it be merged to master branch? 06:55 khonkhortisan did we kill your computer? 06:57 khonkhortisan I think I ran a function over another function 06:58 khonkhortisan what if you set_height then set_width? 07:00 khonkhortisan :( 07:05 khonkhortisan worldedit's functions should be moved to globalstep 07:07 celeron55 khonkhortisan: add debug output near inventorymanager.cpp:794 and see what happens 07:09 khonkhortisan thexyz, what c55 said. 07:10 khonkhortisan did it break? I'm sorry 07:13 thexyz ? 07:15 thexyz nope, it works just like it should 07:15 thexyz i guess neko just cannot into it 07:15 khonkhortisan no cy's server, worldediting a little too much 07:35 sfan5 guess what i'm working on: http://i.imgur.com/XSp5D.png 07:55 khonkhortisan armor 07:55 khonkhortisan and displaying the player model 07:56 sfan5 yeah 08:04 iqualfragile sounds great 08:04 iqualfragile but i think hunger would be more important 08:27 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 08:36 iqualfragile hi PilzAdam 08:36 PilzAdam Tag auch 09:04 Calinou hmm, iqualfragile is in #ubuntu :D 09:04 iqualfragile jup 09:05 Calinou btw: I can run 64 bit guest OSes with virtualbox just fine... 09:06 iqualfragile i cant and thats bad 09:11 PilzAdam VanessaE, youre here? 10:02 jordach morning all 10:02 PilzAdam hi 10:12 jordach VanessaE, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=41523#p41523 THANKS. 10:15 * Calinou finally installed xubuntu on his laptop 10:15 Calinou VanessaE, ^ 10:15 Calinou :D 10:16 * jordach high fives Calinou! 10:39 Calinou it's pretty nice and doesn't beep when booting it/shutdown :P 10:39 Calinou installing minetest 10:50 iqualfragile calinou: i personaly think xfce is ugly 10:50 iqualfragile try lxde 10:53 iqualfragile realbadangel: can you give me your current version of tubes so i can test the network-performance? 11:05 Calinou xfce is awesome. 11:05 Calinou it's not ugly; the desktop effects are quite nice too 11:08 FreeFull You can make xfce4 as pretty as you want 11:10 Keegann hello 11:18 iqualfragile hi keegann 11:24 Keegann last bight was long 11:24 Keegann night 11:24 PilzAdam every night has the same lenght ;-) 11:26 iqualfragile no, it depends on the seasion 11:26 jordach :) 11:27 iqualfragile 69 Personen im Raum 11:32 Keegann whatc been up to 11:38 iqualfragile trülö 11:40 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/244 11:44 Keegann ? 11:51 Keegann hello 13:45 celeron55 http://c55.me/random/2012-09/screenshot_2786899803.png 13:45 OldCoder Viewing 13:45 OldCoder What is it? 13:45 OldCoder Rainbow steps 13:46 celeron55 https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tree/meta_set_nodedef 13:46 OldCoder Viewing 13:46 OldCoder k 13:47 OldCoder Lua API change 13:47 Keegann ike it 13:47 Keegann like 13:47 celeron55 eh 13:47 celeron55 it's an experimental feature 13:48 celeron55 i've already spent a full workday on it 13:48 celeron55 http://minetest.net/packages/nightly/minetest-0.4.3-4a11323-meta_set_nodedef-win32.zip 13:49 Keegann is there a way to make nyan cat yet? 13:51 OldCoder i've already spent a full workday on it 13:51 OldCoder Happens, doesn't it :-) 13:52 OldCoder The code needs you; you can't stop 13:53 celeron55 sure i can 13:53 celeron55 from now on you'll continue that branch, ok? 13:56 Jordach utube comenters about minetest dichotomous: http://i.imgur.com/o2vyq.png 13:57 OldCoder celeron55, Addressing me or Keegann? I hope to work on branches but there are situations elsewhere that have most of my projects stopped cold 13:57 celeron55 my guess is nobody will never, ever make me even 10th of the favor i've made to other people by making this thing 13:57 OldCoder celeron55, You are entirely correct 13:57 Jordach hmm? 13:57 OldCoder celeron55, try 1% 13:58 OldCoder celeron55, However: It will live on 13:58 OldCoder MC will not 13:58 Jordach because publie repo 13:58 Jordach s/publie/public 13:58 OldCoder It is FOSS. Fun FOSS. And interesting. 13:58 celeron55 no 13:59 OldCoder No? 13:59 celeron55 it's FOSS that *works* 13:59 celeron55 8D 13:59 OldCoder Ah. Indeed. 13:59 Jordach trololololol 13:59 * OldCoder does not know that meme though he has heard of it 13:59 Keegann is there a way to have different color chat in game 14:00 celeron55 https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Open_Source 14:00 OldCoder celeron55, How does it feel; overtaking a commercial project? If you read ESR you know it will happen. Even with kid developers. And what does the ED article say? 14:00 celeron55 ESR is what? 14:01 celeron55 also, what article? 14:01 OldCoder Eric S. Raymond. Review "Cathedral and the Bazaar". MC is Cathedral. You are Bazaar and therefore will overtake. And the E.D. Open Source article you just linked. 14:02 OldCoder I have a friend who knows him. Maybe we can get him to comment in time on the two projects. 14:03 celeron55 well dunno 14:03 OldCoder k 14:03 celeron55 about the overtaking thing 14:03 Jordach Keegann - change the colour of fontlucida 14:03 OldCoder It is inevitable in time 14:03 Jordach in /textures/pack 14:04 celeron55 if there was somebody in addition to me working on the engine code, then i would guess what ESR says, but as it currently is, i wouldn't be so sure 14:04 Jordach celeron55, no. it will. 14:04 OldCoder celeron55, If my situation changes I may be able to contribute. You may pick up other developers in time as well. 14:04 celeron55 there are many old FOSS games that are roughly 100% forgotten 14:05 OldCoder celeron55, I revive them. 14:05 OldCoder I have toys from the 1990s :D 14:05 OldCoder Eventually my own distro will be the go-to place for games 14:06 * OldCoder does not like to see useful projects disappear 14:06 Jordach this thing is 2 years old and has a huge followingh 14:06 OldCoder Indeed 14:07 OldCoder It needs more active developers but they will appear over time 14:07 OldCoder For one thing, some of these kids may grow into the role 14:11 Jordach OldCoder - im almost there to start c++ ing 14:11 Jordach (in fact i have my own little fork) 14:11 OldCoder Jordach, k 14:11 OldCoder Oh? 14:11 OldCoder Good practice 14:12 Jordach c55, why did we stop using sectors? 14:12 celeron55 ehm, wat? 14:12 Jordach sectors map format 14:13 celeron55 it rapes the filesystem 14:13 Jordach ahh. 14:14 Jordach we need a mapgen more like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NszGurDUlHc&list=UU3XJRyvLD7rvsVFCFS1IX0A&index=5&feature=plcp 14:14 celeron55 i call notch a magician because of that 14:15 celeron55 the speed he made minecraft to generate that terrain is just nuts 14:15 Jordach i think some algorithm is needed - 0.2 is damn fast 14:16 celeron55 "0.2 is damn fast"? 14:16 Jordach minetest wise on 64 bit 14:17 Jordach i enjoy the maps from that age - and i want jungles again 14:17 OldCoder Jungles sound fun 14:18 Jordach we used to have them 14:18 Jordach see stable-0.2 14:18 OldCoder y 14:18 Jordach or 0.3.1 14:18 Jordach they can be foubd\ 14:18 celeron55 you can't probably believe how many hours i have watched that and some other videos, trying to figure out what the fuck minecraft is doing 14:18 Jordach found 14:18 Jordach celeron55 - but the game and check the source 14:18 OldCoder Quite a bit of time I assume 14:18 Jordach s/but/buy 14:19 celeron55 i do own a copy of minecraft, but the source isn't really available anywhere except as a complex bunch of bat scripts for windows and whatever 14:20 celeron55 to extract it 14:20 OldCoder y 14:20 OldCoder celeron55, what's the fundamental issue in this case? Generating a jungle rapidly? Excuse the naive question 14:21 OldCoder Would a fractal algorithm be relevant? 14:21 celeron55 OldCoder: i'm not talking about jungles 14:21 OldCoder k 14:21 * OldCoder will back out then 14:21 OldCoder celeron55, MT doesn't need to clone MC 14:21 celeron55 i was talking about the shape of the minecraft terrain 14:22 OldCoder y 14:22 Jordach hmm - v3s16 seems to be the problem with co-ordinates and mapsize 14:22 celeron55 minecraft alpha's terrain generator is quite unarguably... ehm... fucking awesome, so to say 14:22 OldCoder Ah 14:22 Jordach yes 14:22 OldCoder I assume the available FOSS terrain generators have been reviewed 14:23 celeron55 eh, as if there was any 14:23 Jordach i'd love to see a hybrid 0.2/chunky mapgen engine 14:23 OldCoder I've seen a few but I can't speak to their quality 14:24 celeron55 there'd need to be a hugely optimized way of genering boatloads of complicated 3D noise 14:24 OldCoder y 14:24 OldCoder Reviewing some articles now 14:24 Jordach where is the variable v3s16 first registed 14:24 OldCoder celeron55, Fractals 14:25 OldCoder http://vterrain.org/Elevation/Artificial/ 14:25 Jordach because if that became a long signed thing - 18 million sized maps would work 14:25 OldCoder This page looks interesting too 14:25 celeron55 Jordach: before s16 becomes a problem, float percision becomes a problem 14:25 celeron55 Jordach: you'd need to find a way for it first 14:26 OldCoder One writer suggests starting with a genuine terrain map and then simulating erosion. 14:26 celeron55 LOL 14:26 Jordach the current co-ords only display 0.4, -10, 997.5 so i dont see why we need stuff like 4.456743271296, -1984.25625654 , 9784.5754733 14:26 OldCoder rather, a genuine elevation map 14:26 celeron55 that is just *incredibly* slow 14:27 OldCoder Fractals then? 14:27 celeron55 fractals, as in perlin noise? 14:27 OldCoder I don't know the term; it's been 20 years. Reviewing. 14:28 Jordach we have implemented perlin noise 14:28 OldCoder No; not Perlin noise. What I had in mind would work better for plants. I'll need to read further. 14:28 OldCoder There must be a fast algorithm 14:28 celeron55 minetest uses perlin noise for most things; the current mapgen uses mostly 2D noise, a previous one uses 3D noise, and the one before that was the same as now, and the one before that used 2D noise in a very simple way 14:28 celeron55 that is why i asked for a fast 3D noise algorithm 14:28 OldCoder 3D noise. Yes. 14:28 OldCoder But does it resemble natural shapes? 14:29 OldCoder Hmm 14:29 celeron55 the 3D noise implementation in minetest is quite suboptimal to my knowledge 14:29 Kray but the real question is 14:29 Kray when we get that nice realistic liquid back? 8) 14:29 celeron55 there are many "real questions" 8) 14:29 Kray (ok, never) 14:30 celeron55 Kray: at the exact moment when somebody implements it 14:30 Kray it was interesting system 14:30 celeron55 (in a way that doesn't eat all resources) 14:30 Kray celeron55: well, would it even matter 14:30 Kray it is possible to implement to be so fast it is usable? 14:31 celeron55 there is finiteliquid or something like that for minecraft, which, to my knowledge, is usable - but it has went through huge optimization efforts 14:31 OldCoder Kray, I am sure it is. But there is no magic in the world. Work will be needed. Can you code yet? 14:32 Kray I don't know anything about minetest's codebase nor am i interested 14:32 Keegann there should be a mod that a book have the debug in it 14:33 Kray and I'm not capable to implement any algorithms like that 14:33 OldCoder Kray, you will be in time 14:33 Kray nope 14:34 OldCoder Kray, If you are not interested so be it 14:34 Kray I'm not interested 14:34 * OldCoder shrugs 14:34 OldCoder Then why ask? 14:34 celeron55 minetest's codebase tends to be too complicated for mortals 14:34 Kray 8D 14:34 celeron55 either people are afraid of it, or they just can't get into it 14:35 celeron55 it has a good bunch of hairy wrapper tricks that were implemented at the 0.3 -> 0.4 transition, for example 8) 14:35 OldCoder Code is code 14:35 OldCoder It can be mastered 14:35 OldCoder Plus it will simplify over time 14:36 OldCoder Hairy can have haircut 14:36 celeron55 well yeah, you just need to cut the hairs in the middle and still be able to connect them correctly, because both ends are important 8) 14:36 OldCoder Yes. The regrettable part is that some old worlds will be lost. 14:37 celeron55 nah, backwards-compatibility is easy 14:37 Keegann there should be a kick command in the game 14:37 celeron55 you just need to be careful 14:37 Kray yesterday I tried some pre-release version from 2010 14:37 Kray dat nostalgia 14:37 celeron55 the thing that is not easy is getting enough of the system to fit into your brain to redesign a middle part of it, and have the time that doing it requires 14:38 OldCoder Yes 14:38 Keegann *__* 14:38 OldCoder :-) 14:38 OldCoder That is an odd emoticon 14:38 Keegann i just made it up 14:38 celeron55 i mean, there are 82k lines of code 14:39 celeron55 8) 14:39 OldCoder 82,000 for a start 14:39 OldCoder 100,000 is coming then. 14:39 * OldCoder laughs 14:39 Kray durr, I actually remember one world we played with before you implemented saving 14:39 celeron55 i remember it too; there was a castle made by rndprogy 14:39 celeron55 and a trollface drawn on the ground 14:40 OldCoder Artwork. Should live on. 14:40 OldCoder Performance Art at that. 14:40 Kray oh, that's even earlier 14:40 Kray or hmm 14:40 Kray yeah, definitely earlier 14:40 celeron55 i think there were only 1 or 2 worlds that didn't have saving 14:40 Kray but wasn't it Gwaur's castle? 14:40 celeron55 that world had saving 14:40 celeron55 i have it 8) 14:40 Kray oh 14:41 celeron55 or hmm... did it 14:42 celeron55 let me find some screenshots... 14:43 Kray oh wow http://kray.dy.fi/b/invavuori.jpg 14:43 Kray first time playing with time-night cycle 14:44 Kray err, *day-night 14:44 celeron55 this was a world with no saving: http://c55.me/random/2010-10/old/kasihymi%C3%B6.png 14:44 celeron55 and this: http://c55.me/random/2010-10/old/verkkopelia.png 14:44 celeron55 actually, that is the same world i think... 14:45 Kray I remember one world which we also had without saving 14:45 celeron55 was there large buildings on water? and some walkways? 14:45 celeron55 i tried to find a screenshot but couldn't 14:46 Kray large buildings and walkways high in air 14:46 celeron55 i mean, there is this http://c55.me/minetest/oldsite/images/map_thumbnails/devserver_2010-11-01_screenshot_small.png 14:46 Kray I personally remember building a monolithic tower and am relatively sure I have a screenshow somewhere 14:46 celeron55 but it was before that 14:46 Kray *screenshot 14:47 celeron55 gwaur's castle was a huge dull looking square with high walls and nothing inside, i think 14:47 celeron55 in that screenshot it is to the right and isn't that huge or dull 14:48 celeron55 and has some stuff inside 14:49 Kray no, that's still the same one 14:49 Kray we had some later world 14:50 Kray this http://kray.dy.fi/b/pilvenpiirtaja.jpg 14:50 celeron55 i think that is what i was talking about 14:51 Kray well, I was talking about that too 14:51 celeron55 i don't think i have it anywhere 14:51 Kray yeah 14:51 Kray I'm fairly certain that was right before saving was implemented 14:52 VanessaE good morning (etc.) all 14:52 celeron55 i wonder what this is http://c55.me/random/2012-09/map-2010-11-1.tar.gz 14:53 celeron55 it is the earliest i have 14:53 Keegann hey VanessaE 14:53 celeron55 i wonder if sectors2sqlite can make any sense of that...... 14:55 VanessaE heh, something of that format I guess isn't recognized by 0.4.3 :-) 14:56 celeron55 oh god 14:56 celeron55 this loads just fine as-is, except that water is somewhat screwed 14:56 celeron55 it dries out after generating because water is loaded as flowing water 14:57 VanessaE guess I don't know what I'm doing where old maps are concerned :D 14:57 VanessaE hi Keegann 14:58 celeron55 i mean... what the fuck :D 14:58 celeron55 minetest was less than 1 month old when this was saved 14:59 celeron55 it's now 23 months old and it still loads almost completely, and with no errors 14:59 thexyz am i the only one who has those range glitches? http://i.imgur.com/GoqKu.png 14:59 * Jordach looks into map, decides to fix it up 15:00 celeron55 thexyz: no 15:00 Calinou happens to me sometimes 15:00 VanessaE thexyz: you mean like that stone tower in the distance being half gone? no. 15:00 Calinou the floating leaves don't really look good :P 15:00 Jordach thexyz - thats the auto drawing mechanism...i think 15:01 Jordach oh god, ive been with minetest for almost a year now 15:01 celeron55 Kray: http://c55.me/random/2012-09/invaline-2012-09-08_18-00-47.png 15:02 celeron55 anyway, that is the first world ever that had saving 15:02 OldCoder A year. A huge amount of time. Wait a few decades :p oh god, ive been with minetest for almost a year now 15:03 Kray lol, a newcomer 15:03 Kray 8) 15:03 celeron55 a year is 52% of minetest's age 15:03 Kray celeron55: oh dog 15:03 Calinou nice torch field :P 15:04 Kray celeron55 did one mistake during development 15:04 Kray he used the same id for torches that a white light-emitting block had 15:04 OldCoder It is all relative, yes 15:04 Jordach actually - i like that ID 15:04 Kray that somewhat breaks all of very early worlds 15:04 celeron55 Kray: also, i use the same id for the static blocky water and actually flowing water 15:04 celeron55 which sucks too 15:04 Kray 8( 15:05 celeron55 i have the old worlds converted to new ones with suitable mods in them to make them work like the old ones though 8) 15:05 Kray hey, could you just have something that checks if the map format is old enough 15:05 Kray oh 15:05 Jordach Kray - i like that 15:07 Jordach c55, VanessaE, Calinou, do we need more moderators? 15:08 Keegann no 15:08 Jordach i just fear the day when minetest goes viral 15:08 Jordach supreme influx of users. 15:09 VanessaE no 15:09 Keegann theres five of them 15:09 Calinou Jordach, no 15:09 Calinou 6 is enough 15:09 Jordach lets scale current user base to 600000 users 15:09 Jordach then see how 6 can handle 15:09 Keegann its fine half of them are dead accounts 15:10 Jordach we DONT know when MT goes viral 15:11 VanessaE celeron55: when you get some time, I've got an odd bug for you. Run 3dforniture on an old map and observe the trees. :-) 15:11 Jordach why 15:11 Calinou Keegann, more like 95% 15:12 Keegann ok 15:12 Calinou don't forget the 90-9-1 rule: 90% of lurkers, 9% of semi active people, 1% of active people 15:13 Calinou 2610,9 lurkers, 261,09 semi active users (few posts), 29,01 active users 15:13 Calinou yes, I can cut people 15:13 Calinou 8) 15:13 Jordach me Calinou, VanessaE, Keegann, m16 and others class as active 15:13 Keegann yea 15:13 Jordach we also need a forum for off topic 15:13 Calinou please no OT forum 15:13 Jordach or - wibbles 15:13 Calinou there's a fuckton of moderation to do for them, it causes pointless flamewars 15:13 Calinou and this is the minetest forum 15:14 Jordach wibbles is a place for topics to burn - and the users in it too 15:14 Jordach however no moderation happens 15:21 thexyz Jordach: here's your offtopic forum: http://www.4chan.org/ 15:21 Jordach ha! 15:22 Calinou true story ^ 15:26 VanessaE haha 15:30 OldCoder Is the active discussion about forums or IRC or both? 15:33 Jordach OldCoder, can you test making a better mapgen using my fork of minetest 15:33 OldCoder Jordach, maybe; PM 16:05 khonkhortisan replacing a node inside minetest.register_on_punchnode when the node you're replacing digs nearly instantly causes the replacement node to also be dug nearly instantly. 16:06 VanessaE isn't 16:06 VanessaE isn't there an after-dig callback also? 16:07 khonkhortisan yeah, but then I couldn't tell if they were trying to remove the wire or cross the wire 16:07 VanessaE insert a check there to see if the node disappeared and replace it if necessary 16:07 VanessaE set a global flag during the punch node action that shows if the user was trying to add a cross wire 16:08 VanessaE then read from that flag in the after-dig call and check if the node got removed 16:08 VanessaE it's a hacky way to solve the problem though - the user would be forced to dig the wire with something other than another wire to prevent unwanted crossings 16:09 Keegann so u guys had a disscussion about landmine 16:09 VanessaE you know, it just occurred to me, 16:10 VanessaE you can auto-detect the need for a crossed wire by checking for only 4 wires present - three in a line in any direction, and one adjacent 16:10 VanessaE only place the crossing if the 5th position is a mesecon device of any kind 16:10 VanessaE using the rules returned by that node to determine if a connection is possible 16:11 VanessaE or just assume those 4 wires indicate a crossing whether there's a mesecon device there or not 16:11 khonkhortisan okay, so I have a switch, then a line of insulated wire, then a lamp. The insulated wire will cross and turn on the lamp. 16:11 VanessaE do a substring match on the 5th position - if it starts with "mesecons:" then query its connection rules 16:12 VanessaE ok, do a substring match and rules check on both of the adjacent positions :-) 16:12 VanessaE but, 16:12 VanessaE that doesn't allow for devices to just sit next to a wire 16:13 VanessaE so having at least 4 wires (including more crossings) in the vicinity would have to be the case, 16:13 khonkhortisan and we don't want to do the same things slabs did, where placing one on another combines them. 16:13 VanessaE it would preserve your test world and provide a predictable way to auto-place it 16:13 VanessaE right 16:15 VanessaE make it so it checks for 4 wires, and also so that you can also manually place a crossing 16:16 VanessaE that way if the check fails in the case of a length of wire with devices on either side of it 16:16 VanessaE you can still connect them together 16:16 Jordach me and old-code are going to work on my fork - by adding a improved mapgen and a highly simple mod api 16:17 thexyz api in what language? 16:17 Jordach (i wont highlight him as he is alseep) 16:17 Jordach custom json like api 16:17 VanessaE BASIC!!!! 16:17 VanessaE :) 16:17 Jordach VanessaE - almost there 16:17 khonkhortisan So if it automatically creates them and recipes create them can I pick them back up, thereby getting crossed wire without using a recipe, or can I not pick them back up, thereby losing what I put into the recipe? 16:18 VanessaE khonkhortisan: what's the recipe now? 16:18 Jordach VanessaE. thexyz, http://pastebin.com/xXtHEt3x 16:18 khonkhortisan two insulated -> crossed -> two insulated 16:18 thexyz Jordach: what is that? 16:18 khonkhortisan if it was automatic instead of a recipe it would only be one insulated 16:18 Jordach a custom design 16:18 VanessaE khonkhortisan: ok, so if you dig the crossing, give back two wires. 16:18 MilanFIN lol I was banned from here 16:18 M13 OldCoder are you her 16:19 Jordach no hes not 16:19 khonkhortisan So I place five wires in a plus, dig the crossed part, craft it, and end up with six wires. 16:19 thexyz Jordach: so is it capable only of defining new nodes? 16:19 Jordach and other things too once we get there 16:19 VanessaE khonkhortisan: make the auto-creation of the crossing always check for an extra wire in your inventory then 16:19 VanessaE if there isn't one, don't create the crossing 16:19 khonkhortisan okay that makes more sense 16:20 VanessaE if there is, create the crossing and deduct it from the inventory 16:20 khonkhortisan What if the center isn't the last node placed? What if the side wire was last placed? How will I tell the center node who to take the wire from? 16:21 M13 ok Im a OP on my IRC Channel but i cant get on it? How do I (New at IRC 16:21 VanessaE khonkhortisan: in my pipes, I use a limited recursive search around the node being placed/dug 16:21 khonkhortisan then how'd you become an op on it? 16:22 khonkhortisan Can a node call a function in another node? 16:22 VanessaE so basically I check the node being dug/placed, and I check the 6 nodes surrounding it 16:22 VanessaE dunno 16:22 VanessaE in your case, you'd check the position being dug and the four orthogonally adjacent spots 16:23 khonkhortisan it could cross for any distance 16:23 VanessaE oh sure, but if you're not digging the crossing itself or one of the adjacent wires, there's no reason to re-evaluate it at all 16:23 Keegann hey M13 16:24 khonkhortisan like if you had many many rows of insulated wire and made a crossed one go through them all 16:24 VanessaE that's a case where the player's going to have to manually place the crossing where it is needed 16:25 Keegann M13 are u sure you are connecting tothe right channel 16:25 Jordach VanessaE, khonkhortisan, herad to #minetest-mods 16:25 Jordach head to 16:25 VanessaE no :) 16:25 khonkhortisan we're fine right here 16:26 VanessaE hrm 16:26 Keegann M13? 16:27 VanessaE what about using the before-construct callback? On a rick click, that function is executed before the node is actually added. couldn't you run your cross/uncross code then? 16:27 VanessaE s/rick click/right click/ 16:28 VanessaE then it would avoid the dig action entirely 16:28 khonkhortisan Should I directly edit the insulated wire file, or redefine it in extrawires? 16:28 VanessaE and you could drop two insulated wires on dig, or cross/uncross on an attempt to place 16:28 VanessaE that would probably be best done by editing the insulated wire code 16:29 VanessaE when you uncross, check the orientation of the wires/devices around the crossing and use those to determine which direction the single insulated wire should take when it appears 16:30 M13 yea Keegan 16:31 M13 ##minetest-m13 16:31 Keegann did you login 16:31 VanessaE "channe is invite only" 16:31 VanessaE +l 16:31 khonkhortisan 09:32|* Cannot join ##minetest-m13 (Channel is invite only). 16:31 VanessaE is there a bot in there holding it hostage> 16:31 VanessaE ? 16:32 M13 no its invite inly 16:32 M13 only* 16:32 khonkhortisan you can always create a random channel 16:32 M13 but im the OP of the Channel 16:32 VanessaE M13: check the help files on chanserv 16:32 khonkhortisan #randomchannelname 16:32 VanessaE see if you can get chanserv to make it non-invite 16:33 Keegann i camt invite u 16:33 Keegann im no an op 16:33 M13 whats the Command Vanessa 16:33 VanessaE /msg chanserv invite ##minetest-m13 16:33 VanessaE try that 16:33 M13 -ChanServ- You are not authorized to perform this operation. 16:34 VanessaE are you registered as the owner of the channel? 16:34 M13 no OldCoder is 16:34 VanessaE the he has to. 16:34 VanessaE then* 16:34 Keegann yea 16:36 M13 ok can you tell him to make it public Keegan tell him i want it Public 16:37 M13 so i dont meed to go through this crap 16:37 Keegann hes resting 16:37 M13 ik 16:37 M13 when hes back 16:38 M13 Keegan go here : http://minetestm13.weebly.com 16:38 M13 its the fork site 16:40 Keegann so its with the forums now? 16:40 M13 no the forums are still 16:40 M13 there the same forums 16:41 Keegann yea 16:42 OldCoder Hi 16:42 LandMine hi everybody 16:43 LandMine keegann you still mad baby? 16:43 OldCoder M13, Let's talk back there 16:43 OldCoder Keegann, don't respond 16:43 Keegann urgh 16:43 OldCoder Keegann, don't respond 16:43 M13 WOOP 16:43 OldCoder This is what you need to understand 16:43 OldCoder M13, Back to the other channel please 16:43 M13 Cant 16:44 M13 Need invite 16:44 khonkhortisan still invite only 16:44 OldCoder M13, you are invited 16:44 M13 make it public 16:44 OldCoder M13, PM 16:44 LandMine keegann thought you were gonna kill me 16:44 LandMine what happened with that 16:44 LandMine ? 16:44 M13 ##minetest-m13 Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited 16:44 LandMine you acted so gangsta lol 16:44 khonkhortisan ^ taunt 16:45 khonkhortisan M13 your not invited message is slightly different than mine 16:45 LandMine i want an invite OldCoder 16:45 khonkhortisan I don't know the purpose of that channel, so I don't want in 16:46 LandMine m13 what happened to your server baby? 16:46 LandMine got griefed pretty good heh 16:46 LandMine hahahaahahaha 16:47 M13 You Fucked it up 16:47 M13 Im going to turn into Fucking Keegann if toy dont Shut your fucking face 16:48 VanessaE M13, don't start 16:48 khonkhortisan worldedit needs function do_in_spare_time(func, param) minetest.register_on_globalstep(func(param)) end 16:48 khonkhortisan scared them both off 16:48 khonkhortisan haha double ban 16:49 Keegann he'll change his ip 16:49 celeron55 VanessaE: that isn't a valid ban 16:49 VanessaE wait, you're right 16:49 celeron55 we could set this channel "registered users only" 16:49 VanessaE forgot the leading star 16:49 M13 OldCoder 16:49 celeron55 you can do that on freenode 16:49 OldCoder I don't know the purpose of that channel, so I don't want in 16:49 celeron55 i also think "only registered users can speak" is possible 16:50 celeron55 somebody find out? 16:50 OldCoder The purpose is to be able to work in peace 16:50 OldCoder M13, I am over there 16:50 OldCoder celeron55, checking 16:50 khonkhortisan there's some setting that doesn't let me change my name back to the registered one if I'm on a channel with that setting 16:50 M13 i need invite >:/ 16:50 OldCoder M13, You have been reinvited 16:50 VanessaE well we could +m it 16:50 VanessaE then you just need vocie 16:50 VanessaE voice 16:51 VanessaE +r requires identification 16:51 khonkhortisan this channel would be like gameboom 16:51 M13 nope : OldCoder 16:51 M13 make it public 16:51 M13 please 16:51 M13 and give me the ban codes 16:51 OldCoder M13, If we make it public, what do you propose to do about LandMine? 16:51 M13 cmmands* 16:52 M13 Ban 16:52 OldCoder M13, I have talked to somebody about dealing with him permanently 16:52 OldCoder Wait for that please 16:52 Jordach ;) 16:52 M13 ok can you make it public please 16:52 M13 thnx 16:52 OldCoder M13, If we make it public he will come for Keegan 16:52 Keegann whens that 16:52 M13 Jordach 16:52 Jordach yes 16:53 M13 How it your fork going? 16:53 Jordach alright 16:53 OldCoder And frankly I have spent two days on this already and I have real work to do 16:53 Jordach like your distro 16:53 Jordach and finding a job 16:53 OldCoder Jordach, my distro? It is background 16:53 M13 Mine? 16:53 OldCoder yes 16:53 M13 o Minetest-M13 16:53 OldCoder No 16:53 Jordach OldCoder - try working for google 16:53 OldCoder I live down the street from them :-) 16:53 VanessaE "'/mode +q $~a' can be used to prevent unregistered users from speaking in channel while allowing them to join (old +R behaviour)." 16:54 VanessaE celeron55: maybe that's what you want 16:54 Jordach why dont you then 16:54 OldCoder Jordach, there are other matters presently 16:54 OldCoder The LandMine issue is taking up too much of my time 16:54 khonkhortisan bzflag's official match servers let you join but not talk 16:54 celeron55 VanessaE: might work; maybe set that when landmine comes again 16:54 VanessaE ok 16:54 Jordach yes - online life is NOT REAL LIFE 16:54 OldCoder Jordach, Indeed 16:55 OldCoder As I said earlier, you seem very sensible 16:55 khonkhortisan online time takes real time 16:55 OldCoder khonkhortisan, Indeed also 16:55 OldCoder The one affects the other 16:55 OldCoder Because people are in both. And people are real. 16:55 OldCoder The matter needs to be brought to a conclusion. 16:55 OldCoder Identify LandMine. 16:55 OldCoder I will do the rest. 16:55 Jordach i have a balance between life and computing. 16:55 VanessaE OldCoder: who's going to clean the blood off the floor? 16:55 VanessaE ;) 16:56 * Jordach gets the mop ready 16:56 OldCoder VanessaE, I will simply talk to his school 16:56 OldCoder As he is apparently younger than I thought 16:56 OldCoder I can be remarkably persuasive on the phone 16:56 OldCoder Very 16:56 OldCoder Actually 16:57 OldCoder Obtain his identity. 16:58 M13 OldCoder ius it Public? 16:58 M13 nope 16:58 OldCoder M13, You are not paying attention. LM cannot be allowed in. You did not observe last night. 16:58 M13 im going to work on the next update for Minetest-M13 16:58 OldCoder M13, I have reinvited you. Are you not able to enter? 16:59 OldCoder Try again now please 16:59 M13 ok 16:59 M13 can I be Channel Owner? 16:59 M13 im in 16:59 OldCoder M13 When the LandMine issue is settled, probably 16:59 OldCoder Psychiatric care needs to be arranged first 17:00 khonkhortisan and we all know step number one. 17:00 OldCoder VanessaE, Last night it went much farther than the things he's said to you. 17:00 M13 ok 17:00 M13 M13 When the LandMine issue is settled, probably : 0k 17:01 VanessaE oh? 17:02 VanessaE pastebin, I gotta see this 17:02 khonkhortisan or log if it's there 17:02 OldCoder VanessaE, I have everything 17:02 OldCoder Identify LM and I'll prepare a PDF 17:02 OldCoder It goes to his school, his parents, and county people in his area 17:03 OldCoder Also to all of his real-life friends 17:03 OldCoder If that doesn't bring him into line 17:03 OldCoder There are other measures. They are perfectly legal. 17:03 OldCoder 17:03 VanessaE I still wanna see it :) 17:03 OldCoder VanessaE, I am offering it as incentive. 17:03 OldCoder One person here believes they can land his identity. 17:04 OldCoder I probably can too but I am out of practice. 17:04 OldCoder Right now I need to talk to friends I've neglected over this matter. 17:04 M13 OldCoder 17:04 OldCoder What now? 17:04 OldCoder I am in the other channel? 17:04 M13 go to minetest-m13 17:07 jordach-tab oldcoder, could you send me a copy :-) 17:07 OldCoder PM 17:08 OldCoder 17:09 OldCoder VanessaE, Jordach others: There are some things in the log that should be redacted. Land LandMine and there will be a LandMine page that will document everything. Some of the material should not be reproduced to protect somebody else. 17:09 OldCoder 17:10 jordach-tab why not bar the persons name? 17:10 OldCoder Jordach, PM please 17:10 VanessaE never redact 17:10 OldCoder VanessaE, in this case yes 17:10 VanessaE this isn't a government document 17:10 VanessaE spill it all 17:10 OldCoder VanessaE, I didn't say it was 17:10 OldCoder No. 17:10 OldCoder 17:14 M13 OldCoder are you Working out LM 17:14 OldCoder M13, Yes 17:15 Keegann hopefully 17:15 OldCoder I also have real-life business 17:15 M13 ok 17:15 OldCoder Keegann, leave the other channel or I swear I'll phone your parents 17:15 Keegann NO 17:15 M13 what Channel 17:16 Keegann ur first one 17:16 OldCoder He is waiting to fight with LM again 17:16 OldCoder As though the other one will care 17:16 OldCoder M13, verify you have lost op on that channel 17:16 M13 wow 17:17 OldCoder One moment 17:17 OldCoder /msg ChanServ op #minetest-m13 M13 17:17 OldCoder Can I assume that no longer works? 17:18 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=41621#p41621 17:18 Calinou ubuntu user spotted 17:18 khonkhortisan So if there was a plane of insulated mesecons travelling into infinity, and you placed one, they would all cross until you were carrying no more insulated mesecons. 17:18 Calinou :) 17:18 M13 no[e UbuntuNerd is OP for that Channel 17:18 M13 nope 17:19 M13 but LM isnt overthere OldCoder 17:19 Calinou we could set this channel "registered users only" 17:19 Calinou heck no 17:19 OldCoder M13, Keegan expects to wait all day for him 17:19 Calinou if you do that, this channel will forever be quiet 17:19 Calinou you can do this for -delta and/or -dev, that'd be ok though 17:20 Keegann kick him 17:20 VanessaE so if people want to talk here they can register 17:20 khonkhortisan then where do they get help registering? 17:20 VanessaE if the above were put into place anyway 17:21 VanessaE khonkhortisan: /msg nickserv help register 17:21 VanessaE or search the web 17:27 OldCoder OWNSyouAll, Keegan? 17:27 OldCoder No 17:27 Keegann no 17:27 Keegann its lm 17:27 VanessaE is it? 17:27 OldCoder Might be 17:27 Keegann im pretty sure 17:27 OldCoder IP address is apparently Michigan 17:28 M13 yep 17:28 Keegann not me 17:28 khonkhortisan The other one was mexico 17:28 OldCoder Hmm 17:28 khonkhortisan xchat has a hard time opening firefox 17:29 OWNSyouAll ? 17:29 Keegann dont speak 17:30 khonkhortisan Your identity is in question. Please wait for the next security guard :P 17:30 VanessaE haha 17:30 M13 Hey OldCoder PM me 17:31 M13 Keegann 17:31 Keegann WHAT? 17:32 M13 can you help me rebuild my server 17:32 M13 i need help 17:32 Keegann how do you make a image for mods 17:32 M13 do you have gimp? 17:32 Keegann yea 17:32 Keegann what server 17:33 M13 30001 17:33 Keegann i cant get on 17:33 M13 ok one sec 17:34 M13 m13.sytes.net Port 30001 17:34 M13 its up 17:37 Keegann still cant join 17:37 Keegann great now hes this 17:37 M13 weird 17:37 Keegann whos 17:37 Keegann try to unban me 17:38 M13 try this at IP 17:38 M13 71.217.56.221 17:39 Keegann ok 17:39 VanessaE m13.sytes.net:30001 works for me. 17:40 Keegann on gimp how do you make a mod texture 17:41 VanessaE just make an image you like 17:41 VanessaE Create a new image with a size of 16x16 and just start drawing 17:41 VanessaE save it, put the filename into your mod item's tiles= line (or whatever you intend to do with it) 17:46 M13 Vanessa can you help me and Keegan 17:46 VanessaE help how? 17:46 M13 LM ruined my server 17:46 M13 i need help rebuilding 17:46 VanessaE lemme look around 17:46 M13 ok 17:47 M13 Log in as Vanessa and ill give you privs 17:47 VanessaE actually I use VanessaEzekowitz on servers. 17:47 VanessaE there we go 17:48 M13 here 17:48 jordach tablet just ran out of charge... 17:49 VanessaE M13: textures on linux is easy. Download a texture pack. Place it somewhere say ~/texturepacks/ 17:49 VanessaE edit ~/.minetest/minetest.conf to point to it, texture_path = ~/texturepacks/name-of-pack-here 17:49 M13 ? 17:49 M13 o ok 17:49 M13 like minetest 0.3.1 17:49 VanessaE (I never use the textures/all functionality) 17:50 VanessaE I think so, been a while since i used an 0.3.x client 17:50 M13 im on Minetest 17:50 khonkhortisan how do I check if the neighbor node can link if my node can't link? 17:50 VanessaE khonkhortisan: get the node name of the neighbor and check its rules? 17:51 khonkhortisan okay 17:59 Jordach if i keep swapping nick please ignore it; if i lock up then yaaic WILL be used 18:17 Keegann how do i draw iin gimp 18:22 M13 ill show you 18:22 Keegann got it now 18:28 M13 cool 18:28 M13 what are the textures for? 18:33 RealBadAngel im back 18:33 VanessaE hey RBA 18:35 chaplain gimp++ 18:35 EnimDnal wasssup 18:35 VanessaE GIMP Is Your Friend™ 18:35 OldCoder GIMP is SIMPle 18:37 VanessaE like we're that stupid. 18:37 iqualfragile wer ist das? 18:37 khonkhortisan so what's more fun, playing minetest, or modding minetest? 18:38 iqualfragile the best part about gimp is the resynthizer-plugins 18:38 iqualfragile khonkohorenatrenitae: hard to decide 18:38 iqualfragile but i think modding is more fun 18:38 khonkhortisan I should use that name khonkohorenatrenitae 18:39 khonkohorenatren aw it's too long 18:39 iqualfragile why? simple: most mods have great functionality (including minetest_game mods) but are not balanced 18:40 iqualfragile so its not as fun to play minetest as it could be 18:41 VanessaE iqualfragile: I make a point of trying to keep my mods balanced for that very reason 18:43 RealBadAngel guten abend freunde 18:43 RealBadAngel was ist los? 18:43 VanessaE eh? 18:43 iqualfragile nichts weiter, bei dir? 18:44 VanessaE non habla Deutsche ;-) 18:44 iqualfragile it would be Deutsch 18:44 RealBadAngel ick auch 18:44 VanessaE chose enough :) 18:44 VanessaE close enough, too 18:44 sfan5 vergesst mih nicht 18:44 sfan5 *mich 18:44 iqualfragile vanessaE: yeah, but some are not 18:45 iqualfragile moreores adds to many ores 18:45 iqualfragile microcontrolers are too easy to craft 18:45 VanessaE iqualfragile: no way, moreores needs more ores :-) 18:45 iqualfragile iron is much too common 18:45 RealBadAngel nein, genug 18:45 VanessaE microcontrollers require a lot of sand and iron to make 18:46 VanessaE 12 sand, 4 iron, ¼ of a mese block, and however much fuel to smelt the iron->steel 18:46 iqualfragile and mininglaser mk1 gives you alot of sand 18:46 RealBadAngel more could be too much, thats what it gives now its alrite 18:47 iqualfragile and the miniglazer uses too less energy and has too many charges 18:47 RealBadAngel not really 18:47 VanessaE the amount of stuff needed to make an object is at least as important as the difficulty of gathering that stuff 18:47 RealBadAngel compare 2 lasers charged and 2 mese picks 18:48 RealBadAngel you got almost the same 18:48 RealBadAngel but the effect when youre minining is different' 18:49 iqualfragile thats the point 18:49 RealBadAngel fun is powered 18:49 iqualfragile you can just dig out gigantic holes in secnds 18:49 RealBadAngel effect is the same 18:51 RealBadAngel really, in the long run laser is not overpowered 18:51 RealBadAngel at least MK1 18:51 iqualfragile ^^ 18:51 iqualfragile im changing most of those things localy for my server anyways 18:52 RealBadAngel iqualfragile, you made your 1st merge 18:52 VanessaE perhaps the laser should be slowed down a little 18:52 khonkhortisan sí sprechen les engelsk 18:52 RealBadAngel would you like to become "technican"/ 18:52 RealBadAngel ? 18:53 VanessaE (a real one after all still needs time to cut through its target) 18:54 RealBadAngel i mean, i would love to have more folks involved in the project 18:54 iqualfragile hmm… i might think about it 18:54 iqualfragile but at the moment i dont rly have spare time 18:55 VanessaE Hah, now landmine alias enimdnal is messaging me asking why he was banned, claims how he doesn't troll, etc. Just how stupid does he think I am? 18:55 khonkhortisan oh I didn't get that it was backwards 18:55 RealBadAngel iqualfragile, take ur time. ure welcome 18:56 khonkhorsitan whoops 18:56 VanessaE make up our minds :) 18:57 RealBadAngel now im goint to take a nap 18:57 RealBadAngel be back later 18:57 VanessaE noooooo 18:57 RealBadAngel im tired 18:57 VanessaE lazy ;) 18:57 RealBadAngel nah 18:57 VanessaE ok, cya 18:57 RealBadAngel tired 18:57 RealBadAngel reallly 18:58 iqualfragile gute nacht, freunde, es ist zeit für dich zu gehen 18:58 RealBadAngel i was makin electro installation at my friends new house 18:59 RealBadAngel wirklich 18:59 iqualfragile im sitting in front of my pc, figuring out fai while bridging the waiting-times by watching the big bang thory 18:59 iqualfragile s/thory/theory 18:59 iqualfragile it slowly stops being fun 19:01 RealBadAngel clickin can become boring 19:02 RealBadAngel coding? never 19:02 RealBadAngel coding is act of creation 19:02 RealBadAngel and thats is never even a bit close to boredom 19:03 VanessaE ssshhhhhh 19:03 OldCoder coding is act of creation 19:03 OldCoder Indeed 19:03 VanessaE celeron55 claims right of creation around here :DS 19:03 VanessaE :D 19:03 thexyz any decent flowers mod? 19:04 VanessaE mine of course :D 19:04 khonkhortisan وأود أن لا تكون قادرة على رسم الأحرف لهذه اللغة 19:04 VanessaE wtf? 19:04 khonkhortisan arabic 19:04 VanessaE yes I know 19:05 VanessaE what's it say? 19:05 RealBadAngel some arabic said im rite 19:05 thexyz how about dyes integration? 19:05 RealBadAngel ;) 19:05 khonkhortisan I wouldn't be able to draw the characters of this language 19:05 khonkhortisan but I run it through again and it tries to correct its own spelling 19:06 VanessaE thexyz: afaik, my unified dyes is the only way to craft dyes that can be used with the in-game dyes mod. 19:06 thexyz um.. 19:07 thexyz does your mod add new dyes or only provide recipes for flowers? 19:07 VanessaE both. 19:07 thexyz well, the problem is that i need mod that only does the second thing 19:07 VanessaE flowers -> my dyes -> dozens of colors, some of which directly translate to in-game dye colors 19:08 VanessaE so if you use the in-game dyes' groups, mine will work too. 19:09 thexyz what if i don't need "dozens of colors"? just want to make flowers converted to default dyes somehow 19:09 khonkhortisan it's nice when mods are compatible with each other 19:09 VanessaE then don't use dozens of colors? 19:09 VanessaE the flowers only convert to 6 base colors 19:09 RealBadAngel im going AFK, be back later 19:10 RealBadAngel need some sleep 19:10 VanessaE use those to craft the ..what was it, 12? colors the default mod supports. 19:10 thexyz 17 19:10 VanessaE right, 17 then 19:10 khonkhortisan including grayscale 19:11 VanessaE but once you make those, you don't have to make any others - just use them directly. 19:11 VanessaE mine just adds crafting recipes for the remaining 72 colors in the palette, and you can ignore those because they're entirely self-contained. 19:11 VanessaE (they don't overlap or interfere with anything) 19:11 khonkhortisan except defining more things 19:11 khonkhortisan and filling up the texture atlas 19:12 thexyz i guess i can make any dye from dye.excolors by mixing some dyes from dye.basecolors 19:12 thexyz am i right? 19:12 VanessaE thexyz: right 19:12 thexyz oh, nice 19:12 VanessaE or from the unicolors section 19:13 VanessaE so if for example you make blue and yellow dyes from geraniums and yellow dandelions with my mod, you can use them directly as basecolors, or mix the two dyes to get green, also a base color 19:15 VanessaE as long as your crafting recipe uses the group matching the color you want, both dye systems will work :) 19:21 VanessaE I just wish celeron55 would add flowers, jungle grass, and jungle trees mods to minetest_game. 19:22 VanessaE fewer dependencies for my other mods :D 19:26 OWNSyouAll i just like that it has a nyancat block by default 19:26 khonkhortisan I'd expect jungletrees to get in faster than flowers, because they have already been in 19:27 VanessaE khonkhortisan: maybe 19:27 VanessaE same should hold for jungle grass. anyway, jungle trees are epic :-) 19:29 khonkhortisan I'm getting nil for the neighbor's rules. I had to write the function myself so it doesn't also check my rules. 19:41 thexyz https://github.com/xyzz/painting 19:43 thexyz lol 19:44 thexyz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minetest This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. 19:44 thexyz well 19:44 thexyz fuck them 19:49 Kray fucking deletionists 19:53 iqualfragile is anyone runung the animals-mod? 19:53 NakedFury damn them 19:54 NakedFury copy paste the article then add it as soon as they delete it 19:55 NakedFury then keep doing that until they give up 19:55 sfan5 NakedFury: the admin will ban you if you do that 19:55 NakedFury make a new account and keep trying 19:56 M13 kray 19:56 M13 kray from kray's server 19:56 Kray m13 19:57 M13 kray from kray's server 19:57 Kray m13 from m13's server 19:57 Kray m13 from m13's server 19:57 M13 yes 19:57 M13 are you the owner of Kray's Server 19:58 Kray yes 20:01 M13_ OldCoder 20:02 OldCoder M13, Hi 20:02 khonkhortisan What if it gets sources again? Will all the content have to be rewritten? 20:06 VanessaE ok everyone get on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Minetest#Minetest 20:06 VanessaE nominate it to be kept. 20:06 VanessaE and provide a really good reason. 20:08 khonkhortisan 18yo deletionist 20:11 OldCoder 20:11 OldCoder Hi 20:11 OldCoder Folks, we have some progress 20:11 OldCoder Please PM me the following: 20:11 VanessaE ? 20:11 OldCoder Chat logs, forum posts, screenshots related to our friend LandMine 20:12 M13 Does anyone have some information on LandMine / Some Bad Things he has done on IRC 20:12 OldCoder There will be news today 20:12 OldCoder 20:12 OldCoder M13 I have it here 20:12 OldCoder Go collect elsewhere 20:12 M13 o ok 20:12 OldCoder Just PM and paste anything you found especially friendly 20:12 OldCoder VanessaE, that includes you and some of the gentle remarks you told me about 20:12 OldCoder 20:12 OldCoder This may be fun 20:12 OldCoder 20:13 OldCoder <------- is about to have some fun 20:13 OldCoder 20:19 VanessaE digging through my logs now. 20:19 M13 ni other channels can help 20:19 M13 no* 20:20 OldCoder If this is a false alarm we're going to ask C55 to proceed with plan B 20:20 M13 ok 20:20 khonkhortisan Vanessa you got a response 20:24 VanessaE OldCoder: http://pastebin.com/4FkDqQ1v 20:24 OldCoder Reviewing 20:24 VanessaE filtered the logs for just his nick in its usual form, plus one comment from the unfiltered version that got missed. 20:24 M13 Thats Gold 20:24 OldCoder Geez 20:24 OldCoder Classy 20:24 OldCoder Thx 20:24 OldCoder 20:24 VanessaE still think he's worth trying to reform? :-) 20:24 M13 OldCoder where done 20:24 OldCoder VanessaE, you have not understood 20:25 OldCoder What I am 20:25 khonkhortisan oh yeah I remember being called a mormon 20:25 OldCoder It is not about reform 20:25 OldCoder 20:25 OldCoder M13, k 20:25 OldCoder Working for an hour or two 20:25 OldCoder VanessaE, if what I have is not right, you will need to support plan B 20:25 VanessaE khonkhortisan: actually it was the cunt part that prompted me to include that one. 20:25 OldCoder Plan B will require C55 support 20:28 celeron55 thexyz: is there any russian articles about minetest? 20:28 celeron55 same goes for Calinou about french, when he appears 20:28 sfan5 Aug 29 2012 23:27:46 got more than 100 ips 20:29 sfan5 well, all ips start with 189.144 or 189.191 20:30 thexyz celeron55: well, there are at least 2 news articles 20:30 celeron55 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Minetest#Minetest 20:30 celeron55 they might help in that 20:31 celeron55 or even probably will help 20:31 thexyz celeron55: though i don't know whether can that be counted as "notable source" 20:31 thexyz celeron55: https://www.linux.org.ru/news/games/6984308 https://www.linux.org.ru/news/games/8027529 20:31 thexyz there is also http://www.lgdb.org/game/minetest_c55 20:31 celeron55 news that says other things than just copies text from my blog and minetest.net is likely to be somewhat better than none 20:32 VanessaE celeron55: please look at -delta. 20:32 OldCoder sfan5, those are VPNs 20:32 celeron55 VanessaE: can wat 20:32 celeron55 wat* 20:32 celeron55 +iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 20:32 VanessaE ok, no prob. 20:34 celeron55 thexyz: is linux.org.ru a bloggish site with one person posting everything and nobody checking anything, or is it more like a news site where more people do it and try to figure out what is actually important? 20:34 VanessaE (I have to admit, that took me a bit to parse ;) ) 20:34 celeron55 that is what matters to wikipedia 20:35 thexyz celeron55: everybody can post news which then should be approved by moderators 20:35 celeron55 apparently linux.org.ru is notable enough to be on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux.org.ru 20:35 celeron55 that might mean it could very well count 20:42 iqualfragile minetest is in the ubuntu-archives (not shure about debian) 20:42 iqualfragile has this been noted in the article? 20:48 celeron55 added my nomination in there 20:48 celeron55 now if somebody actually added those references to the article itself (i'm too lazy and biased) 20:50 M13 Celeron55: can you make the texture alias of minetest 0.4-DEV20120106 bigger 20:51 iqualfragile an die Deutschsprachigen hier im Raum: last uns mal den Artikel übesetzen. Ich hab nen Piratenpad erstellt und schonmal angefangen: http://piratepad.net/kSVZXljqLF 20:51 celeron55 wat 20:51 celeron55 ^ M13 20:51 M13 Celeron55: can you make the texture alias of minetest 0.4-DEV20120106 bigger 20:51 M13 is it possible 20:51 celeron55 iqualfragile: wtf is that? 20:52 iqualfragile its an etherpad 20:52 M13 and what src code file is it in 20:52 iqualfragile you can edit textfiles synchronously 20:52 celeron55 M13: i guess tile.cpp 20:52 M13 ok 20:52 M13 Ill tell OldCoder thnx 20:52 iqualfragile its the english wikipedia-entery 20:53 OldCoder Hi 20:53 iqualfragile i just asked the people speaking german in here to help me translate 20:53 iqualfragile sfan5 hilf mal 20:58 iqualfragile sfan5 BartoCH cornernote und wer auch immer noch deutsch kann: helft bitte mit http://piratepad.net/kSVZXljqLF dashier auf deutsch zu übersetzen 20:59 BartoCH my Deutsch ist so schlecht, ich mache so viele Fehler. 21:00 BartoCH ich kann nicht zwei korrekten Sätzen machen :( 21:02 iqualfragile ok… schade 21:06 BartoCH ja, es ist nicht mein Muttersprache... 21:10 VanessaE There, I've restored sufficient imagery in the wikipedia article. 21:11 VanessaE and I KNOW they are free images. 21:11 VanessaE "copyright violations" my ass. 21:15 VanessaE anyone else want to chime in on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Minetest#Minetest 21:16 VanessaE needs "keep" votes and damn good reasons accordingly. 21:16 Keegann can you look over my mod http://pastebin.com/SXj6xLh1 21:16 VanessaE tile_images= is deprecated. 21:16 VanessaE use tiles= 21:17 iqualfragile vanessae: judging by the decorations of the window you have given the wrong source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Minetest_creative_mode.png 21:17 VanessaE digprop_xxxx() calls are obsolete and unsupported. 21:17 VanessaE use groups. 21:17 iqualfragile as you have taken the screenshot you are the source/author 21:17 VanessaE I assumed the source was where the image came from 21:18 VanessaE hence I disclaim any authorship of it 21:18 iqualfragile celeron55: could you note that a) we are allowed to use the screenshots/pictures from your website 21:19 iqualfragile and b) we are allowed to use the ingame-screenshots we make? 21:19 celeron55 eh 21:19 VanessaE it's already cc-by-sa/30 anyway 21:19 VanessaE er cc-by-sa-3.0 21:20 celeron55 isn't the first one fair use, and the latter one obviously is true because the software is under LGPL = any use, and the images are CC BY-SA = any use if credited (and some is WTFPL) 21:20 VanessaE From the readme: "This applies to textures and sounds contained in the main Minetest distribution. Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (CC BY-SA 3.0)" 21:21 celeron55 yes, it does not include media that has less rights than that 21:21 iqualfragile allrigt, then add that to the images on wikipedia 21:21 VanessaE not that you give a shit if someone re-uses the screenshot :-) 21:21 celeron55 i don't give a shit about anything 21:21 celeron55 it's the contributors that may give 21:21 iqualfragile celeron55: its fair use, but wikipedia likes clear statements 21:23 celeron55 it's unhandy for me to write that anywhere when it'd be just fine anyway 21:25 celeron55 apparently you'd have to spend money for advertisements to get on wikipedia 21:25 celeron55 silly american world 21:26 VanessaE yep 21:26 celeron55 nothing can be credible if it's not backed by $$$ 21:27 VanessaE makes me quite ashamed to be american. 21:28 Jordach are still on about wiki licensing? 21:31 VanessaE same old bullshit, different day :-/ 21:31 celeron55 that's how the world works 21:33 Jordach celeron55, seems we have the same plan, VanessaE, it's life...deal with it. 21:34 VanessaE Keegann: also, your use of nested quotes in craft recipes is somewhat outdated (just put one set of quotes around each item in the recipe). Also, re-check your typing, "defaultcoal_lump" is not a valid item name. 21:35 celeron55 some day i need to figure out a project that involves lots of green pieces of paper and nearly zero work 21:36 VanessaE celeron55: venture capitalist? ;) 21:37 celeron55 maybe i'll borrow money for a house, spend it all on some crazy startup, lose everything and then get involved in organized crime to get moniez 21:37 Jordach celeron55 - if you want green paper, recycle 21:38 VanessaE oh this is funny -- "When you go back and watch Mitt Romney... I mean, after seeing Michelle Obama speak, and Bill [Clinton] speak, and the President speak, it's like watching an armless man paint with his ass." -- Bill Maher 21:39 VanessaE I've never heard a political candidate referred to quite in that manner before :D 21:39 Jordach VanessaE, lol politics 21:39 celeron55 politics is fun; it's like reality tv except that it actually deals with reality 21:40 VanessaE hey, at least US politics is funnier than WP politics once the comedians get into it :) 21:41 Jordach celeron55, unless you live in England, the conservartives are essentially wanting moniez like those fat-ass bankers. 21:42 celeron55 it's silly how much money politicians are given and then they are somehow expected to think about the normal people 21:43 Jordach VanessaE. http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=41674#p41674 and http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=41692#p41692 asking for mod/admin not gunna happen ere 21:43 celeron55 they'll invest half of it and then they'll just try to make their investments work better 8)))))) 21:43 NakedFury they should work for minimal wage 21:43 Jordach like $6 an hour 21:43 NakedFury the minimum 21:43 celeron55 no? a bit above average would work just fine 21:43 NakedFury then you will see politics full of people that care 21:43 Jordach or nhothing 21:43 Jordach nothing 21:43 celeron55 now they're like at least double, more like triple the average in finland at least 21:43 NakedFury and dont pay the president so much dammit 21:44 Jordach if the world automates, then programmers will end up making more money, because there are no people who can code and control them 21:44 Jordach (the machines that run the world) 21:50 celeron55 the day the machines are the programmers will be interesting 21:50 Jordach o.o 21:50 * OldCoder will be back in an hour 21:50 Jordach lol skynet 21:50 OldCoder Jordach, PM please 21:55 Mallot1 was minetest made in Dev-C++ and OpenGL? 21:55 VanessaE C++, with Irrlicht as the 3d engine. 21:56 * OldCoder is collecting LM information. PM anything you wish. 21:57 VanessaE anyone feel like making a photorealistic nyan cat for my texture pack? :-) 21:57 VanessaE (ignoring for the moment how much of a contradiction in terms that is) 21:57 Mallot1 ? 21:58 Jordach VanessaE, no. 21:58 Mallot1 no 21:58 VanessaE fine :) 21:58 khonkhortisan I wouldn't know where to start 22:10 iqualfragile can a debian-user pm me his /etc/apt/sources.list ? 22:11 Mallot1 hello anyone know how to make minetest based games 22:12 Mallot1 in Dev-C++ and Opengl? 22:12 iqualfragile use google 22:12 iqualfragile use your brain 22:12 iqualfragile then ask again if you still have to ask 22:13 iqualfragile wich ich quite unlikely to happen 22:17 MiJyn Mallot1, try using GLFW 22:18 Mallot1 what does that stand for? 22:18 NekoGloop meow 22:18 MiJyn GL FrameWork, I guess 22:18 MiJyn it lets you have Mouse+Keyboard+Joystick+Window cross-platform 22:18 VanessaE hi Neko 22:18 MiJyn I use it :) 22:23 MiJyn bll 22:23 MiJyn *bbl 22:23 khonkhortisan Bye Later alL 22:24 M13 is OldCoder here 22:24 MiJyn Lol 22:24 MiJyn yeah 22:24 MiJyn he's on #minetest-m13 22:24 M13 is he talking 22:24 MiJyn but he's AFK 22:24 MiJyn (which will be my state too :P) 22:24 M13 ok 22:26 M13 Keegan 22:26 Keegann what 22:27 M13 your garage_door has a major bug 22:27 Keegann wht 22:27 M13 yea 22:27 M13 the others work 22:28 M13 Im posting it 22:28 M13 Keegan come on the Minetest-M13 server 22:28 Jordach m13, i repaired your channel topic 22:29 M13 Repaired? 22:29 M13 #minetest-m13? 22:29 Keegann hey lndmine 22:29 M13 my Channel is ##minetest-m13 22:29 Jordach yep 22:30 M13 There is nothing wrong with it] 22:30 Jordach i menat the old one 22:30 Keegann M13 invite me to it' 22:30 M13 Jordach do you use Windows XP 22:30 Jordach rioght now yes 22:30 Jordach right 22:31 Jordach here - my current design for minetest-classic api http://pastebin.com/hF1cXzTe 22:31 Keegann M13 invite me to ##minetest-m13 22:32 M13 can you compile my fork of Minetest for Windows (I use Linux) 22:32 M13 Keegann i cant 22:32 M13 only OldCoder can 22:32 Keegann yea arent you an op 22:32 M13 hes AFK 22:33 M13 yea but it wont let me 22:33 Jordach m13 - compiling minetest is horrible on windows 22:33 Keegann try it gain 22:33 Jordach ask thexyz, he can do so with ease 22:33 M13 is he here 22:33 M13 talking? 22:33 VanessaE do you see him talking? 22:34 M13 no 22:34 VanessaE then he isn't. :-) 22:34 M13 | 22:34 M13 . 22:34 M13 | 22:35 Jordach swigh 22:35 Jordach sigh 22:35 Jordach this is why i dislike it here 22:35 Jordach crowded 22:36 NakedFury 3 people are a crowd? 22:36 VanessaE yeah but without the crowd, there's no one to talk to :) 22:36 Jordach im a loner 22:36 Jordach deal with it 22:36 khonkhortisan mesecon:is_conductor(nodename) returns true, then mesecon:conductor_get_rules(nodename) returns nil. I don't get it. 22:37 VanessaE dunno 22:37 VanessaE :) 22:37 khonkhortisan I print "NIL!" just before minetest crashes for good measure. 22:38 VanessaE haha 22:39 VanessaE sleep well, RBAA? 22:39 VanessaE 0A 22:39 VanessaE -A -0A 22:39 RealBadAngel not rly 22:39 VanessaE sowwy 22:39 khonkhortisan -A --OA 22:39 RealBadAngel but woke up 22:40 RealBadAngel neeeeeeeeeed a coffee 22:40 RealBadAngel badly 22:40 * VanessaE hands RealBadAngel a Rip-It "Fbomb" 22:40 VanessaE fuck coffee, this stuff will wake you up easier ;) 22:40 RealBadAngel hehhe 22:41 RealBadAngel whats dat? 22:41 VanessaE an energy drink along the lines of Red bull, monster, rock star, etc. 22:41 RealBadAngel holy shit 22:41 Mallot1 a 3d game engine for beginners? 22:41 RealBadAngel i do love and get used to hy heart lol 22:42 Keegann any more channel about minetest? 22:42 RealBadAngel of course 22:42 RealBadAngel minetest on the hour 22:42 Mallot1 yes minetest channel 22:42 RealBadAngel minetest channel 5 22:43 RealBadAngel MTV (minetest tv) 22:43 Keegann what are they call 22:44 RealBadAngel pick it up,we r everywhere 22:44 Keegann what 22:44 Keegann s the channels name 22:44 RealBadAngel mtv 22:45 Keegann no one on there 22:45 M13 Keegan 22:45 Keegann what 22:45 RealBadAngel ur remote is worth shit 22:45 RealBadAngel we are here, all of us 22:45 M13 Im going to Upload the new Version of Minetest-M13 and you and me are going to play on its server 22:46 M13 ok? 22:46 Keegann ok 22:46 RealBadAngel incredible 22:46 RealBadAngel 8 files of code 22:46 RealBadAngel and chicken comes 22:47 * RealBadAngel sings "and thats the power of love.." 22:47 Keegann what server 22:49 M13 Keegan 22:49 M13 Port 30002 22:50 M13 its for the Client 22:50 M13 0.4.3 dont work on it 22:51 Keegann what client 22:51 M13 Download (Latest) here : http://minetestm13.weebly.com/downloads.html 22:52 M13 if it dont work you'll need to compile it (easy!) 22:52 M13 ask if you need help 22:53 Keegann which one is iit? 22:54 M13 the 3rd one down 22:54 iqualfragile M13: so: whats so special about your fork? 22:54 Keegann shoot 22:54 Keegann this laptop can barely play mnetest 22:55 M13 read : http://inetestm13.weebly.com 22:55 M13 http://minetestm13.weebly.com 22:55 M13 use Second 22:58 iqualfragile well… i did, before i asked 22:58 iqualfragile still: whats so special about it? 23:03 M13 well its "going" to be less resource hungry and its going to have more items and stuff as the Fork Move Forward 23:03 M13 its a Hobby to me 23:08 RealBadAngel ehhhh 23:08 RealBadAngel sometimes to laugh is even too hard way even 23:09 RealBadAngel iqualfragile, tested the patch? 23:10 iqualfragile you mean the patch i send you? 23:10 RealBadAngel yes 23:29 _2cool4me4_ hola! 23:32 Jordach night all 23:49 Keegann hey octu 23:49 Octupus hey' 23:52 _2cool4me4_ oops, ripple carry goes the other way...