Time Nick Message 00:00 Keegann why are you guys so meaan 00:01 NekoGloop because u griefer? 00:01 Keegann how am i griefer 00:01 Keegann havent grief in a month 00:01 NekoGloop heh 00:02 NekoGloop need i remind you that old habits dont go away? 00:02 Keegann i know like trolling too right? 00:02 NekoGloop yes, so do us all a favor and go away. 00:02 OldCoder NekoGloop, give him a chance to behave here 00:03 Keegann cant sorry 00:03 OldCoder He has slipped up elsewhere 00:03 OldCoder And will need to answer for that 00:03 Keegann anwser for what 00:03 Keegann i thougt u were gonna 00:03 OldCoder For your small lapse elsewhere 00:03 Keegann gone* 00:03 OldCoder I took a break 00:03 OldCoder I need small breaks; it is medical 00:04 OldCoder When you get old you will understand 00:04 OldCoder Life isn't always fun 00:04 OldCoder Fun is now 00:04 Keegann im never gonna get old 00:04 OldCoder So have fun and stop attacking people 00:04 OldCoder Oh? 00:04 OldCoder No Old? 00:04 NekoGloop he doesnt wanna be like you ;) 00:04 Keegann it is fun 00:05 OldCoder NekoGloop, O.K. 00:06 Keegann so tell hi to unban me 00:07 NekoGloop i guess my sword that repairs itself when you hit water with it is an idea unreachable at this point ;) 00:07 * VanessaE isback 00:07 Keegann oh no 00:08 NekoGloop is 65535 wear == new tool? 00:08 NekoGloop or is it a dead, used up one? 00:08 Uberi|MC NekoGloop: neat idea! 00:09 Uberi|MC NekoGloop: dead 00:09 Uberi|MC it's the wear, not the dura 00:09 Keegann hey VanessaE 00:09 VanessaE hi 00:09 Uberi|MC o/ VanessaE 00:09 Uberi|MC did I miss something while at dinner? :P 00:09 OldCoder Keegann, tell the other channel? Why would they agree? 00:09 Keegann what other channel 00:09 OldCoder Keegann, you should apologize to them 00:10 Keegann whta other CHANNEL 00:10 OldCoder Keegann, actually any of the two or three you attacked in the last 24 hours 00:10 Keegann this one? 00:11 Keegann on minecraft i cant get on and the other is the same problem 00:11 Uberi maybe you were banned? 00:12 Keegann what? 00:12 Uberi from the channels in question 00:14 Keegann yes im all ban besides this one 00:14 Uberi well then that's why you can't join 00:14 Keegann no shit 00:15 Keegann werid i havent notice that *sarcastic* 00:15 Uberi there is no need to be snippy 00:17 cy1 what is the range of perlin:get2d(...) ? I thought it was -1 to 1, but it seems to go from 0 to... a little bit above 1? 00:17 Uberi one momen 00:17 Uberi t 00:18 Uberi it's a guassian distribution 00:18 cy1 I'm pretty sure it's bounded... 00:18 OldCoder Keegann, they are not actually very happy 00:18 OldCoder They are sort of pissed 00:19 OldCoder Your name 00:19 OldCoder is the curse of death right now 00:19 OldCoder You took down Octupus 00:19 Uberi no, a gaussian distrib is unbounded 00:19 cy1 haha wow 00:19 cy1 Keegann is internet famous 00:19 Uberi it can go to potentially infinity 00:20 Uberi in practice this is too rare to care about 00:20 cy1 Uberi: perlin isn't gaussian though 00:20 Uberi one moment 00:20 cy1 it's like... interpolated between two random values at different coordinates. 00:20 cy1 those values being generated by noise2d 00:21 Keegann yay 00:21 cy1 which is bounded by uh... whatever 0x7fffffff/1073741824 is 00:21 cy1 1.0 - that...? 00:21 Uberi cy1: that's the definition of a gaussian distribution 00:21 Keegann hey Bad_Command 00:21 NekoGloop cy1: a lot 00:21 Uberi well a normal distrib, anyways 00:22 Uberi cy1: anyways it probably wouldn't hurt to just clamp it to -1..1 00:22 cy1 2 00:22 Uberi eh? 00:22 cy1 0x7fffffff/1073741824 is just about exactly 2. 00:23 Uberi my calc says 2 as well, yes 00:23 cy1 Uberi: how do you clamp something that could go between negative and positive infinity o.O 00:23 Uberi cy1: x=x<-1?-1:x>1?1:x 00:23 NekoGloop by defining infinity, silly :D 00:24 cy1 1073741824 is 0x40000000 in hex. :/ why couldn't they just use hex 00:24 Uberi that would make too much sense, cy1 00:24 NekoGloop because cake 00:24 NakedFury infinity, anything that passes how long I live 00:24 NakedFury so 101 00:24 Uberi the sense police would find you 00:24 cy1 haha 00:25 Uberi according to http://www.shiffman.net/teaching/nature/week-1/, perlin noise is gaussian 00:25 Uberi seems pretty accurate but can't be sure 00:26 cy1 so noise2d goes from -1 to 1, and since noise2d_gradient is interpolations between multiple noise2d things, it also goes from -1 to 1. 00:26 cy1 Uberi: yeah, but this implementation I mean, it's pretty clearly bounded. 00:26 cy1 noise2d_perlin is a bit trickier though... 00:26 Keegann Hey LandMine!! 00:26 Uberi cy1: ah, MT's implementation could be different I guess 00:27 cy1 noise2d_perlin sums up several noise2d_gradient values. 00:27 cy1 one per octave 00:27 cy1 so for 3 octaves it could potentially (but not likely) go from -3 to 3 00:27 LandMine hi keegann 00:27 cy1 gausiann shaped ofc, since it's summing random numbers 00:28 Uberi normal distribution, I would assume 00:28 Keegann cy1 say that thing bout me to Landmine 00:28 cy1 oh, but each iteration becomes smaller, so the first one is -1..1 and the second is -0.7..0.7 and the third 0.7^2 and such. 00:28 cy1 LandMine: Keegann is Internet Famous? 00:28 Keegann good 00:29 LandMine he is MT famous.......just like myself lol 00:29 LandMine im more famous though 00:29 cy1 What I mean is he got banned from Minecraft and took down Octopus in the process. 00:30 Keegann and ban on wesnoth 00:30 Uberi that must suck for octopus 00:30 LandMine lol i never heard of that and i dont care 00:31 LandMine OK OK EVERYONE STFU!!!! IM SPEAKING TO MY BUDDY Keegann NOW 00:31 Keegann lol 00:31 LandMine so the server crashed when i took something out of the chest 00:31 Keegann yea 00:31 LandMine did you notice? 00:31 LandMine good 00:31 LandMine did you find out how to set the map 00:31 LandMine auto? 00:31 Keegann yes 00:33 LandMine cool 00:33 LandMine so i can play when ever i want? 00:33 Keegann auto? what do you mean by that 00:35 LandMine you were asking how to set the map daily 00:35 LandMine or something like that 00:35 Keegann look on redcrab's forum and there is a map of the world 00:35 LandMine ohh thats what you meant 00:35 LandMine kk 00:38 Keegann um akward silence 00:38 MiJyn yeh 00:39 NekoGloop yup 00:41 cy1 YOU MANIACS 00:41 cy1 YOU BLEW IT UP 00:41 cy1 AH GOD DAMN YOU 00:41 cy1 DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL 00:41 Keegann me? 00:41 Uberi not again 00:41 khonkhortisan you already said that 00:42 Keegann boring channel 00:43 LandMine lol 00:43 LandMine cy1 blew what up? 00:43 NekoGloop most everyone here is also doing something else, probably more important than conversing 00:43 cy1 LandMine: Just trying to break the silence. 00:44 VanessaE AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! BJDHSADHFASFWGDFGQDGQADA:DADLALALALALALAAL!!!! 00:44 VanessaE tension breaker. had to be done. 00:44 NekoGloop the landmine exploded, blew everything up ;) 00:44 Keegann thats cool 00:44 khonkhortisan WHY DO I HAVE TO REGISTER MY RECEPTORS?! 00:44 khonkhortisan release of tension. 00:44 NekoGloop khon: because the cake is a lie 00:44 Uberi khonkhortisan: BECAUSE THEY ARE A DANGER TO SOCIETY AND MUST BE RESTRICTED 00:44 khonkhortisan haha 00:44 Keegann uh 00:45 Uberi imagine a country where everyone could just carry their receptors everywhere they went 00:45 Keegann nah 00:45 Uberi receptor crimes would skyrocket overnight 00:45 Keegann doubt it 00:45 khonkhortisan you'd have unexpected high wires 00:46 Keegann hey Ubuntu 00:46 Uberi any crazy idiot could lay their hands on a receptor and who knows what they could do with it 00:46 UbuntuNerd Keegan 00:46 Keegann watm 00:46 khonkhortisan overheat all the chips in the world 00:46 Uberi o/ UbuntuNerd 00:46 VanessaE Uberi: next thing you know people will be building nuclear weapons with the,m 00:47 Uberi crazy, eh? 00:47 VanessaE yup 00:47 UbuntuNerd I Make My First Fork (Real Fork!!) 00:47 VanessaE and all because khonkhortisan wanted to add a mesecon without registering it. 00:47 Uberi /giveme mesecons_nuke:nuke 00:47 Uberi if the doomsday clock every gets to midnight I'm blaming khonkhortisan 00:48 UbuntuNerd Does Most People that Play Minetest use Linux? 00:48 Uberi UbuntuNerd: considering the windows build download stats, I'd say no 00:48 khonkhortisan the wire works just fine with a single node and metadata, until you try to stack them 00:48 Uberi (vs the clone count, that is) 00:48 NekoGloop You Need To Stop Talking Like This You Homestuck 00:48 Keegann UbubtuNerd guess how many times i got ban from channels 00:48 Uberi khonkhortisan: don't stack them? :P 00:48 * khonkhortisan uses opensuse linux 12.1 x86_64 00:48 UbuntuNerd well i edited the c++ code and it compiled and Worked!! 00:48 Uberi neat, UbuntuNerd 00:49 khonkhortisan that's the whole point of having crossing wires, that you can put them in a grid with µcs sprinkled in it 00:49 UbuntuNerd now many? 00:49 VanessaE khonkhortisan: I look forward to your release of it 00:49 khonkhortisan I'll release it with an example world 00:49 UbuntuNerd check it out http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=39456#p39456 00:49 Uberi khonkhortisan: what's a ?cs 00:49 khonkhortisan (my keyboard again) 00:49 khonkhortisan µc = microcontroller 00:49 Uberi ah 00:50 khonkhortisan compose + m + u = µ 00:50 VanessaE khonkhortisan: of course I mean the version without that race condition you had ;-) 00:50 khonkhortisan which race condition did I have? 00:50 Uberi khonkhortisan: why is metadata needed? 00:50 khonkhortisan I was using metadata instead of separate nodes to store which ports were on 00:51 VanessaE khonkhortisan: you said something abo....oh ok 00:51 UbuntuNerd Vanessa : I Used Minetest 0.4 20120106 00:51 VanessaE so it works properly now? 00:51 UbuntuNerd Lolz 00:51 VanessaE UbuntuNerd: outdated :-/ 00:51 Uberi UbuntuNerd: hey what are these performance fixes you made? do they change anything user-visible? 00:51 khonkhortisan microcontrollers require receptors to be registered, so I have to do that for it to work 00:52 UbuntuNerd OOoo no Minetest 0.4-DEV 20120106_1 Runs a LOT like Minetest 0.3.1 thats why i said that 00:52 VanessaE UbuntuNerd: 0.4.3 is about 25% faster than 0.4.2. 00:52 Uberi oh it seems that you modified the default mod 00:52 NekoGloop ubuntunerd: quick grammar lesson: capitilize only names and the first word in a sentence. 00:53 LandMine_ well 4.3 comes with all kinds of useless additions, like those containers wtf is that shit 00:53 Uberi any changes to C++? if they fix bugs it would be better to get them in upstream 00:53 Uberi LandMine_: vessels? 00:53 VanessaE 0.4.3 damn it 00:53 Uberi seems like something for potions 00:53 UbuntuNerd Sorry i like the shift key 00:53 VanessaE with. a. leading. ZERO. 00:53 Uberi and. an. extra. period. 00:53 LandMine_ yeah vessels 00:53 LandMine_ useles as hell 00:53 UbuntuNerd Y does Minetest 0.4.3 Run Faster? 00:53 VanessaE those vessels are my invention. and I think they'll be useful in the future. 00:54 Uberi I. put. some. extra. ones. in. there. in. case. you. didn't. have. any 00:54 VanessaE UbuntuNerd: celeron55 re-organized some of the rendering code, I don't know all of the details. 00:54 LandMine_ 0= the amount of fucks i give vanessae 00:54 LandMine_ and i can say 4.3 00:54 Uberi rendering code reduced texture switching, apparently 00:54 LandMine_ who made you boss? 00:54 VanessaE yes 00:54 khonkhortisan it seems like the fog is further away than the seeable blocks 00:54 Uberi I remember doing that with my opengl programs 00:54 UbuntuNerd o ok I thought it was a memory leak 00:54 Uberi such a pain 00:55 NekoGloop landmine_: its a base thing, lets other modders have more to work with. By being in the default game, it allows less dependencies that require people to download more things. 00:55 VanessaE khonkhortisan: yeah, always been that way, kind of irritating but not too big a deal. 00:55 NekoGloop Uberi: please guide me through how to fix opengl. 00:55 khonkhortisan So, yeah. I, have. Commas, periods. As, much. As, you. Want, really. 00:55 UbuntuNerd Is there any whey to run Windows programs on Linux (except Wine!) 00:55 VanessaE UbuntuNerd: wine or a virtual machine. 00:55 VanessaE no other way. 00:56 khonkhortisan virtualbox with a legal copy of windows 00:56 Uberi NekoGloop: fix opengl? 00:56 UbuntuNerd I have VM box 00:56 LandMine_ he said excpet wine vanessae 00:56 khonkhortisan "bash: bin/minetest.exe: cannot execute binary file" 00:56 LandMine_ read please 00:56 UbuntuNerd I use Windows XP Black 00:56 Uberi UbuntuNerd: crossover is WINE based but works better for some things 00:56 VanessaE LandMine_: put a sock in it. 00:56 UbuntuNerd Costs 00:56 UbuntuNerd LandMine_: put a sock in it. Lolz 00:57 NekoGloop uberi: i no want inventory image glitches 00:57 UbuntuNerd O.O why are my blocks in my inventory black?? 00:57 Uberi NekoGloop: driver issue, probably 00:57 NekoGloop er... 00:58 Uberi UbuntuNerd: don't be racist against blocks 00:58 UbuntuNerd Lolz 00:58 UbuntuNerd sorry 00:58 NekoGloop ima try to use direct3c 00:58 NekoGloop 3d* 00:58 VanessaE UbuntuNerd: it's a known bug, seems to hit people somewhat randomly 00:58 NekoGloop texture atlas? 00:58 Uberi turn off tex atlas 00:58 VanessaE dunno 00:58 NekoGloop try exit to menu and restart 00:58 UbuntuNerd Well its Minetest 0.4.1 Soooo 00:58 Uberi it gives me issues too 00:58 khonkhortisan how do you turn off the atlas? 00:58 LandMine_ maybe you should find a fix for that, and stop making useless vessel mods 00:59 Uberi enable_texture_atlas option 00:59 UbuntuNerd Keegan 00:59 NekoGloop khon: config file: enable_texture_atlas=false 00:59 Keegann what 00:59 VanessaE LandMine_: don't like it? complain to celeron55. He thought it was useful. 00:59 UbuntuNerd Try my Fork 00:59 UbuntuNerd link http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=39456#p39456 00:59 NekoGloop what's in it, ubuntunerd? 00:59 Uberi LandMine_: perhaps you should take a stab at it yourself rather than ripping on other people's work? 01:00 VanessaE UbuntuNerd: your fork won't work with any other servers than those with protocol v10. 01:00 VanessaE and no one runs that version anymore afaik. 01:00 Keegann Uberi shut up 01:00 UbuntuNerd I have a Server for is Vanessa 01:00 Uberi Keegann: hmm? 01:00 NekoGloop ah it's less resource-hungry 01:00 NekoGloop now fix 0.4.3 01:00 NekoGloop :D 01:00 khonkhortisan even without the texture atlas I still get item image corruption in my inventory from restarting the server without restarting the client 01:00 Uberi I was not addressing you, Keegann 01:00 Keegann doesnt matter 01:01 UbuntuNerd Keegann 01:01 khonkhortisan Trap Spike Minor has tiled animated torches 01:01 UbuntuNerd You Gonna try it? 01:01 khonkhortisan white block has tiled wool 01:01 Uberi in that case, carry on, Keegann 01:01 Keegann not right now 01:01 khonkhortisan cactus is lava 01:01 Uberi khonkhortisan: version? 01:01 khonkhortisan latest. 01:01 VanessaE khonkhortisan: certainly not the first time I've seen that happen too... wonder why 01:02 LandMine_ why yo made Uberi? 01:02 LandMine_ mad** 01:02 Uberi I am not mad, LandMine_, I'm simply stating a fact 01:02 Uberi I don't have anything against you, I just found that statement rather rude 01:03 khonkhortisan Singleplayer, [ Play, Escape, Exit to Menu ] <-- repeat about three times without quitting your client 01:03 LandMine_ so? i never said i was the creator have i? i always say its passed on from MC so stfu lol 01:03 Keegann i founf your statement is rude 01:03 Uberi khonkhortisan: that's always given me memory leaks 01:03 khonkhortisan I think it's reaching the memory limit and corrupting before it has a chance to go to swap 01:04 VanessaE khonkhortisan: for me, one run is all I get. Start, play, exit to OS. Repeat as needed. 01:04 Uberi LandMine_: I believe we are not talking about the same thing 01:04 VanessaE (because of the huge textures I use) 01:04 LandMine_ what are you talking about? 01:04 khonkhortisan not what both of you are talking about 01:04 khonkhortisan blinky plant now has leaves 01:05 NekoGloop are the textures being updated? 01:05 VanessaE khonkhortisan: yeah, I just added that today. 01:05 NekoGloop or are we just randomly saying things? ;) 01:05 Uberi neat 01:05 UbuntuNerd Try my Server for my Fork Guyz please!! IP and Port is in the Fork http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=39456#p39456 01:06 LandMine_ uberi what are you talking about then you pickle kisser? 01:06 Keegann lol 01:06 Uberi LandMine_: "(9:06:11 PM) LandMine_: uberi what are you talking about then you pickle kisser?" <= I'm pretty sure this was intended to be derogatory 01:06 NekoGloop lol 01:08 LandMine_ guess not even you know what your talking about 01:08 LandMine_ so neeeext 01:08 Uberi I'm sorry you couldn't understand that, I suppose 01:09 Uberi g'night everyone! 01:09 NekoGloop heh 01:11 LandMine_ VannesaE you have been on here too long, mayb its time to go to the kitchen hun :) 01:11 Keegann >:-) 01:14 khonkhortisan So I have logic to make the signal go through the crossed wire without turning, but it breaks if I turn A on, then B on, then A off. I had to loop through my logic a second time to catch the signal changing direction. 01:14 OldCoder ? 01:14 khonkhortisan ¿ 01:15 NekoGloop lol 01:15 Keegann ₩¥§' 01:16 khonkhortisan aw, now it crashes with two. Must be changing the output too many times. 01:17 NekoGloop lævatain 01:17 NekoGloop â–‘lâ–‘oâ–‘lâ–‘ 01:17 khonkhortisan the brightness character 01:17 Keegann .»- 01:17 khonkhortisan aah! 01:17 NekoGloop ? 01:17 khonkhortisan I get rectangles with that one 01:18 NekoGloop I used the light shade :D 01:18 khonkhortisan Keegann, .»-[e415][e402][e417][e40A][e40A] 01:18 Keegann  01:19 khonkhortisan I'm being outdone with the fancy characters 01:19 OldCoder But they don't say anything 01:19 VanessaE xchat shows the characters but they look like ass (low-rez compared to my usual font) 01:19 Keegann 425 01:20 Keegann  01:20 NekoGloop webchat shows... rectangles 01:20 khonkhortisan Nyet sprechen ze Español 01:20 VanessaE hahaha 01:20 Keegann NO! 01:20 UbuntuNerd cyah all later (Keegann when is ur server going to be on again?) 01:20 OldCoder khonkhortisan, you are quadrilingual? 01:20 Keegann idk 01:20 khonkhortisan no, just asl and this 01:20 OldCoder Ah 01:20 NekoGloop asl lol 01:21 NekoGloop i know some 01:21 OldCoder UbuntuNerd, Hello 01:21 khonkhortisan what? 01:21 khonkhortisan oh 01:21 UbuntuNerd Hey 01:21 NekoGloop like popcorn, and thank you, etc. 01:21 khonkhortisan sign something to me 01:21 UbuntuNerd gtg 01:21 OldCoder \o/ 01:21 NekoGloop lol like i can? 01:21 Keegann cyah 01:21 Keegann $) 01:22 VanessaE popcorn sounds sooo good right now :-/ 01:22 Keegann 01:22 NekoGloop i have a peppermint :P 01:22 khonkhortisan 01:23 OldCoder ( )( ) 01:23 khonkhortisan everyone here can type an nbsp, no? 01:23 VanessaE yeah...   01:23 NekoGloop nope 01:23 VanessaE ;) 01:23 NekoGloop what is it? 01:23 khonkhortisan uɐsıʇɹoɥʞuoɥʞ 01:23 VanessaE otherwise, here. [ ] 01:24 khonkhortisan it's just like a space, but word wrap won't split there the same way it won't split the middle of a word 01:24 NekoGloop nbsp means noob space 01:24 * NekoGloop flees 01:24 khonkhortisan non-breaking space character 01:24 Keegann yea eactly 01:24 NekoGloop no i'm sure its noob space 01:25 khonkhortisan there's also combining characters for other languages 01:25 OldCoder   01:25 khonkhortisan I could type it if I remembered what level it was on 01:26 khonkhortisan "18:27:39: ERROR[main]: Access denied. Reason: Too many users." on gameboom 01:27 NekoGloop lol 01:27 NekoGloop i think it's full ;) 01:27 khonkhortisan there were eight people earlier 01:29 khonkhortisan why is there a mesecon:receptor_off and a mesecon:receptor_on but no mesecon:receptor_set? 01:29 VanessaE because you haven't coded it yet :D 01:29 NekoGloop lol 01:30 NekoGloop it would jsut call the other two functions 01:34 NekoGloop yay 01:34 NekoGloop you can now eat a kalite sword by right-clicking 01:34 NekoGloop oops. 01:34 NekoGloop well i guess you have a teaser for my next mod then 01:34 khonkhortisan that should cancel itself out eating a health sword 01:35 NekoGloop you have to be pointing at something though 01:35 NekoGloop (a node) 01:36 NekoGloop unfortunately idk how to fix this 01:36 Keegann /back 01:36 khonkhortisan that's because you're throwing it at the node, it bounces up, then you catch it in your mouth. You can't do that trick without something to bounce it off of 01:36 NekoGloop lol 01:37 NekoGloop you eat it, and its wear goes down by 1/5 01:38 khonkhortisan do you only eat part of it? 01:38 NekoGloop sure :P 01:38 NekoGloop this could be a basis for more food 01:40 Keegann good night 01:48 khonkhortisan it's still light out 01:49 OldCoder khonkhortisan, He is in a different TZ 01:49 khonkhortisan ik 01:49 OldCoder ki 01:50 Keegann OldCoder you in my TZ right? 01:51 Keegann Pitt. PA. 01:51 OldCoder Keegann, No 01:51 OldCoder Keegann, You are in Michigan 01:51 OldCoder Keegann, I am a few hours to your left 01:51 Keegann you are in PA. 01:51 OldCoder Nope 01:51 OldCoder Though I have been to PA 01:52 OldCoder I wish I could have a Philly Cheesesteak with my uncle just one more time 01:52 khonkhortisan I haven't gone more than two states away 01:52 OldCoder khonkhortisan, Travel is not essential in life 01:52 Keegann i just had a philly cheesesteak tonight for dinner 01:52 OldCoder Travel of the mind is 01:52 OldCoder Keegann, Good for you 01:52 Keegann for my fith ti 01:52 Keegann e 01:52 Keegann ti 01:52 Keegann time 01:55 mrtux i'm bored 01:55 mrtux minetest 0.4.3 has some bugs 01:55 mrtux so i can't play minetest 01:56 LandMine_ stfu mrtux your spamming and im watching cartoons!! 01:56 mrtux maybe the nightly builds work 01:56 mrtux ... 01:57 mrtux landmine, just leave me alone, i don't want to start an argument 01:57 LandMine_ OldCoder wazzzup buddy...how did THAT turnout? 01:57 OldCoder LandMine_, One moment 01:57 OldCoder LandMine_, I won't know for a while but I am committed now. Started mailing things yesterday. 01:58 OldCoder The results may be interesting. 01:58 OldCoder Somebody else has referred to the approach as a tactical nuke. 01:58 NekoGloop i havent left the county I'm in 01:58 OldCoder NekoGloop, Do you want to? 01:58 NekoGloop nope 01:58 NekoGloop :P 01:59 Keegann Mountain View, Cali. (OldCoder) 01:59 OldCoder Yes 01:59 OldCoder Pacific Time 01:59 mrtux wow 01:59 NekoGloop bbl 02:00 mrtux my server crashed 02:00 mrtux upgrading to 0.4.3 was a bad idea 02:00 LandMine_ tell it to your face mrtux 02:00 Keegann lol 02:00 LandMine_ OldCoder hope everything turns out well 02:00 mrtux why landmine_ 02:01 Keegann i should get to bed now 02:02 OldCoder LandMine_, Thank you 02:02 OldCoder Keegann, Think about my questions 02:02 Keegann nah 02:02 OldCoder Keegann, The questions you walked out on because you are not sure you will like the answers 02:03 Keegann have other things on my mind 02:03 OldCoder Keegann, In life it is good to look at the questions 02:03 OldCoder And not turn away 02:03 OldCoder Face them 02:03 OldCoder 02:03 Keegann have better things on my mind 02:03 OldCoder If the better things are positive, all right 02:03 LandMine_ lol bye keegann (if your leaving) 02:03 OldCoder Good night, Keegann 02:03 mrtux night keegan 02:04 Keegann dont want to go but i have to wake up at 6:00 AM 02:05 Keegann and im pretty sure there positive 02:12 VanessaE ah, back now with fresh popcorn 02:14 * LandMine_ wants popcorn :) 02:21 khonkhortisan Setup is (switch - wire - cross - wire - switch) 02:21 khonkhortisan Turn left switch on (on switch - on wire - cross - on wire - switch) 02:21 khonkhortisan Turn right switch on (on switch - on wire - cross - on wire - on switch) 02:21 khonkhortisan Turn left switch off (switch - wire - cross - on wire - on switch) 02:21 khonkhortisan Turn right switch off (switch - wire - cross - wire - switch) 02:21 khonkhortisan Turn right switch on (switch - on wire - cross - on wire - on switch) See the problem? 02:22 mrtux VanessaE, PM 02:54 OldCoder LandMine_, hi; I need to check something. You around? 02:55 LandMine_ yeah 02:55 OldCoder Thanks; hold on 02:55 LandMine_ ok 02:56 OldCoder LandMine_, I'll PM and thanks again 03:01 VanessaE khonkhortisan: yes, I see what you're getting at. jeija had a similar problem with some mesecon device before 03:01 VanessaE I think maybe even the delayers 03:13 ArchZombie So I've been trying to make a simple mod 03:13 ArchZombie and I get this: 03:13 ArchZombie http://pastebin.com/Qjm810P9 03:13 ArchZombie Can someone tell me what it means? 03:16 ArchZombie it happens whenever I get deep 03:16 ArchZombie And I'm not sure why D: 03:16 LandMine thats what she said 03:17 ArchZombie http://pastebin.com/5bRDqzpy 03:17 ArchZombie Is the relevant stuff, but it looks very similar to the default ones... 03:21 ArchZombie seems to be a bug in the default "generate ores" but I can't figure it out. 03:21 ArchZombie Having to do with the low depth... 03:32 khonkhortisan why are you generating coal? 03:33 ArchZombie I'm modifying the default. 03:33 ArchZombie Not really a new mod, just a mod of default. 03:33 ArchZombie But I'm adding stuff. 03:34 ArchZombie I wanted to get rid of "mese" 03:34 khonkhortisan I'd recommend whatever you're adding to not start with default: 03:34 ArchZombie and replace it with something else. 03:34 ArchZombie The only issue is that if I set an ore to generate very deep. 03:34 ArchZombie It crashes. 03:35 ArchZombie Seems to be a bug with the generate_ores code, I assume because he never had anything generate deeply. 03:37 ArchZombie I just want to generate ores deep in the ground D: 03:41 khonkhortisan the world ends at 30927.2 03:42 khonkhortisan /teleport singleplayer 30927 0 30927 03:42 khonkhortisan then look around 03:44 khonkhortisan I have a two-node cave to the end of the universe 03:46 VanessaE weird 03:47 VanessaE the weirdest thing is I can still fly past the edge 03:47 VanessaE and the coordinates continue to increment normally 03:48 * VanessaE teleports to 35000,0,35000 03:48 * khonkhortisan doesn't see you 03:48 khonkhortisan um, I'm falling slower? 03:49 * VanessaE teleports even further, 100k,0,100k 03:49 khonkhortisan must be my memory 03:49 khonkhortisan (0, 0, 1234568789) 03:49 VanessaE looks like the coords max out (or minimum out) at -214748.4 03:50 VanessaE tried to teleport to 999999999,0,999999999 03:50 VanessaE it took me to -214748 03:50 khonkhortisan it would be nicer if the world maxed out at the same place as the player 03:51 khonkhortisan you can fly farther than you can teleport 03:51 VanessaE *nod* 03:52 khonkhortisan it won't save me as being past there 03:53 khonkhortisan does that count as a bug if it can't save my position because I teleported then flew? 03:53 VanessaE technically I'd say it's a bug that you can teleport or fly past 30926 at all 03:54 VanessaE since the game can't render the world past that point 03:54 khonkhortisan are cacti generated like trees? 03:54 ArchZombie I'm only trying to put it at -512 03:54 ArchZombie or so 03:54 VanessaE tdunno 03:54 VanessaE dunno 03:54 khonkhortisan look at your bottom coordinate, -31000 y is further than 30927, the end of the world 03:55 ArchZombie They are all like that. 03:55 ArchZombie In the default mod 03:55 khonkhortisan but you're too far away anyway 03:55 ArchZombie The only thing I changed is is 03:55 ArchZombie -128 -> -512 03:55 ArchZombie = crash 03:55 ArchZombie (well, I also added more ores) 03:55 ArchZombie but that isn't where it's crashing 03:57 khonkhortisan it looks like your random is backwards 03:58 ArchZombie I noticed, but 03:58 VanessaE ok, time for me to hit the sheets. Night all 03:58 ArchZombie That's not my code 03:58 khonkhortisan /time 03:58 ArchZombie And it only does it when it's super deep 03:59 VanessaE time set to 23591 03:59 VanessaE ;) 03:59 khonkhortisan I haven't figured out time yet 04:10 UbuntuNerd hello 04:10 NakedFury hello 04:10 khonkhortisan hello 04:11 UbuntuNerd hey is it possible to make the servers.minetest.ru site show how many players on the servers 04:11 UbuntuNerd each server* 04:17 khonkhortisan turns out my update function for the crossed wire gets called again before it's finished because I'm setting ports one at a time 04:17 khonkhortisan so I think the first one overwrites what the second one changed. 04:19 ArchZombie Does anyone know what "minp" is 04:19 ArchZombie and "maxp" 04:19 khonkhortisan {x=0, y=0, z=0} and {x=1, y=1, z=1} would be examples of minp and maxp 04:20 khonkhortisan they are 3d coordinates, ordered from lowest to highest in all three dimensions. 04:21 khonkhortisan It could be the block, a newly-generated section, or a user-defined volume. 04:24 ArchZombie so then, it doesn't generate ores past 512? 04:24 ArchZombie o.O 04:24 ArchZombie What's past 512? pure lava? 04:24 khonkhortisan it should be able to, it wouldn't make sense to have a limit there 04:24 ArchZombie Well it wont it seems. 04:24 ArchZombie Because that's minp.y 04:25 khonkhortisan you stole some torches 04:25 ArchZombie either that or im missing something 04:27 khonkhortisan it's not happy because -514 < -512 04:27 khonkhortisan max should be -512 and min should be -514 04:27 ArchZombie I tried checking it for a reverse of that, but if I flip it around 04:27 ArchZombie I get "comparison with nil" 04:27 ArchZombie So it isn't just a flip around 04:28 khonkhortisan I can't look up the exact line numbers 04:58 ArchZombie Well, for now I'll just put -400, which works. 05:03 cy1 VanessaE: guess what I've been doing all day :D 05:03 cy1 VanessaE: https://github.com/VanessaE/flowers/pull/1 05:08 khonkhortisan Jeija, don't worry, my crossed wires aren't done yet 05:09 Jeija OK, how where you doint them? Registering as effector + receptor? 05:10 khonkhortisan I was registering a single node as an effector and turning the receptor on and off, but microcontrollers require registration of receptors. So I created multiple nodes and got it registered. Now the two directions don't connect, the current flows either way, unless you turn the direction of the current while it is flowing. So I have one more thing to do. 05:11 OldCoder Zzz 05:12 khonkhortisan okay, the shorter version: Turn on the left side, it flows right. Turn on the right side, turn off the left side, it doesn't flow left. 05:13 Jeija You should recalculate it on_signal_change 05:14 khonkhortisan I do. But I set the ports one at a time, which calls my function right in the middle of itself. 05:14 khonkhortisan I think it's just my logic, though. 05:15 cy1 hm... 05:31 cy1 hey, I reset my server since nobody was building on it and wanted to clean up some mods. Anyone want to try it? 05:31 khonkhortisan sure, I'm looking for a server 05:31 cy1 verge.info.tm 6989 05:31 khonkhortisan why that port? 05:31 cy1 It's about a 2.8 megabyte sized game. 05:32 cy1 because I have ports 6100-7000 as forwarded by default and I'd rather not configure that blasted Frontier router for 30000 05:32 khonkhortisan my router doesn't save any changes I make 07:39 celeron55 http://www.dorkly.com/picture/43598/mordor-door-sign 08:18 mika__ how do i update minetest? 08:24 mika__ VanessaE, is there a way to update to 0.4.3? 08:28 iqualfragile mika__: yes there is, just pull from gihub and compile 08:28 iqualfragile or (if you are on ubuntu) use the ppa 08:29 mika__ ppa adress is? 08:30 iqualfragile actualy google is not that hard to use 08:30 mika__ i tried google 08:36 iqualfragile what about minetest.net 08:36 iqualfragile download 08:37 iqualfragile scroll down a bit 08:37 iqualfragile aah, there it is: unstable ubuntu/mint 10:17 Keegann hello 10:21 Calinou hi 12:31 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 13:27 RealBadAngel hi all 13:27 PilzAdam sup, RealBadAngel 13:27 RealBadAngel whats up? 13:28 PilzAdam answering a question with a question is not very polite... 13:28 RealBadAngel ;) 13:28 RealBadAngel ive seen cacti mod, its quite nice 13:29 PilzAdam i dont like it 13:29 RealBadAngel why? 13:29 PilzAdam i like the cactus mod from Neko because it uses the default cacti 13:29 PilzAdam i dont like mods that add things that are not cubes 13:29 RealBadAngel hehehe 13:30 RealBadAngel that could be easily changed 13:30 PilzAdam so? 13:30 RealBadAngel but, the point is, they (treees and cacti) grows nice. maybe too high but still nice 13:31 PilzAdam i like the cactus growing of my farming mod 13:33 RealBadAngel of course you do :) 13:33 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=41406#p41406 13:33 PilzAdam rofl 13:33 RealBadAngel but the idea sapier implemented is really nice 13:33 PilzAdam its nice for trees 13:35 RealBadAngel good that weekend started 13:35 PilzAdam yay! 13:35 RealBadAngel 2 days for coding then :) 13:36 PilzAdam yay! 13:36 PilzAdam i have to train Battlefield 3 because there is a new expansion pack released at 11th 13:36 RealBadAngel had celeron made something new with swaping nodeboxes and textures? 13:37 UbuntuNerd I need help (Not with Compiling Lolz) 13:37 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, no i think not: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/master 13:37 PilzAdam UbuntuNerd, dont ask to ask a question 13:38 UbuntuNerd ok Well is there any C++ coders here 13:38 RealBadAngel im talkin bout this: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tree/meta_set_nodedef 13:38 UbuntuNerd I can only code in Lua 13:38 RealBadAngel hi VanessaE 13:38 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, i think its just changing node defs in runtime 13:38 PilzAdam hi VanessaE 13:39 UbuntuNerd Need a Co-Owner For My Minetest-Fork (That knows C++) 13:39 PilzAdam is it a opens source project? 13:39 PilzAdam -s 13:39 UbuntuNerd yea 13:39 RealBadAngel yeah, it its supposed to do so, but is kinda buggy now 13:40 PilzAdam UbuntuNerd, so why talking about Co-Ownsers? 13:40 PilzAdam -s 13:40 UbuntuNerd good point 13:40 UbuntuNerd i Need a Contributor 13:40 UbuntuNerd That Knows C++ 13:40 PilzAdam i like java; sry 13:41 RealBadAngel lol 13:41 UbuntuNerd i like Lua :( 13:41 PilzAdam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk3qkQROb_k 13:41 UbuntuNerd not C++ :( 13:41 RealBadAngel and i like milk chocolate 13:41 * PilzAdam gives RealBadAngel a glass of milk chocolate 13:42 UbuntuNerd thats a Amazing Video lolz 13:43 RealBadAngel nice parody 13:43 UbuntuNerd Well If you know any C++ coders can you ask them to reply here : http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2458 13:43 PilzAdam UbuntuNerd, i know c55 ;-) 13:43 UbuntuNerd C55 as in celeron55? 13:43 RealBadAngel lol "and jerk off to the picture of gates" 13:43 UbuntuNerd lolz 13:43 RealBadAngel rotfl 13:44 UbuntuNerd so you know the C++ code in Minetest? 13:44 PilzAdam not realy 13:44 UbuntuNerd PilzAdam: o ok 13:44 PilzAdam as i said: i like java 13:45 PilzAdam and people who like java dont like c++ 13:45 RealBadAngel and vice versa ;) 13:45 UbuntuNerd Code you be a Contributor for The Lua Code in the Fork 13:45 UbuntuNerd could* 13:46 UbuntuNerd Make Custom Default Mods for the Fork 13:46 PilzAdam i dont like the idea of forking minetest, because we should first make MT good and *than* we can start forking it 13:46 RealBadAngel we dont have as much coders to make forks 13:47 PilzAdam but we have forkes that are not coders (e.b. UbuntuNerd) 13:47 PilzAdam *forkers 13:47 RealBadAngel yeah lol 13:47 UbuntuNerd ok well i guess its me and Keegan 13:47 UbuntuNerd And i Code in Lua thats it 13:48 UbuntuNerd cyah all later 13:48 UbuntuNerd join my Channel #minetest-m13 13:48 PilzAdam nope 13:48 UbuntuNerd ok 13:49 PilzAdam ;-) 13:49 RealBadAngel well, some1 shall say, dont kill kids dreams... ;) 13:49 PilzAdam Keegann doesnt know how to find the installation path of python 13:49 PilzAdam that will be a interesting fork... 13:50 RealBadAngel theyre both just kids 13:50 RealBadAngel but on the other hand when i was just 12 i decompiled Boulder Dash and made another part of it 13:50 PilzAdam someone (i think it was goebbels) called me a "kid" too 13:52 RealBadAngel goebbels, or whatever nazi nick he is using, is a troll 13:52 PilzAdam hes on my ignore list ;-) 13:52 RealBadAngel seen him lately with "himmler" nick 13:53 PilzAdam VanessaE banned him 13:53 PilzAdam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll 13:53 RealBadAngel at least 13:54 PilzAdam https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Trollschild.jpg 13:54 RealBadAngel lol 13:54 RealBadAngel Troll (Internet), an internet term for a person who, through willful action, attempts to disrupt a community or garner attention and controversy through provocative messages 13:54 RealBadAngel Troll (gay slang), a slang term for gay men who wander about looking for sexual partners 13:55 PilzAdam i know what a troll is 13:55 RealBadAngel the 2nd meanin... 13:55 RealBadAngel that i didnt know 13:56 * PilzAdam too 13:56 PilzAdam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAabVQ_XkJ4 13:58 * PilzAdam is going to play battlefield 3 and troll some people ;-) 13:58 celeron55 http://paste.dy.fi/JVa 13:59 PilzAdam :-( 13:59 sfan5 celeron55: wut? 13:59 sfan5 i love nyan cats 14:00 PilzAdam make nyan dogs 14:00 celeron55 i recommend everybody to mail that guy to ask for permission 14:02 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/df439ae3961680c4c8e3afef5155107d66717f5c 14:04 celeron55 if i get no permission, the block will be brown and have the text "Removed by Chris Torres" on it 14:09 VanessaE wonderful thing to wake up to in the morning - a hard-locked computer 14:10 VanessaE good morning 14:11 sfan5 VanessaE: not a wonderful mornin' anymore http://paste.dy.fi/JVa 14:11 VanessaE I saw 14:12 Jeija I think prguitarman1 is not the real Chris Torres, his nyan cat video was posted 7 days after the original one (the one with most views); But I'm not sure... 14:13 celeron55 okay, i'll find out an another e-mail and mail the actual guy 14:13 Jeija Dunno if he's the copyright holder, the email doesn't look formal 14:13 VanessaE I tried emailing him regarding licensing the image. He was not particularly pleasant to deal with. 14:14 VanessaE (and yes, prguitarman is the real guy) 14:15 Jeija but the email is prguiterman1 (mind the 1), may be real, may be fake, and don't forget the informal email 14:15 VanessaE so what else did I miss while my computer was in a coma? 14:16 sfan5 what about mailing to pr@prguitarman.com ? 14:16 Jeija Maybe we should also ask for permission on twitter, that generates publicity! 14:16 VanessaE haha 14:16 sfan5 good idea :D 14:16 VanessaE just claim you're using it as a parody 14:16 RealBadAngel and dont forger to link to the game 14:16 VanessaE then you have no worries, he can bitch all he wants but it's legal under US law then (where chris is located) 14:17 sfan5 RealBadAngel: for the people that are to dumb to use google? 14:17 VanessaE sfan5: remember your audience ;) 14:17 RealBadAngel no no 14:18 RealBadAngel just by the way :) 14:18 celeron55 ehm... what *is* it, if not a parody? 14:18 RealBadAngel so the folks readin such tweet will go and check whats that game ;) 14:18 sfan5 a copy? 14:18 celeron55 as if i would have had any seriousness in mind when i created nyan cats deep within underground rocks... 14:18 VanessaE celeron55: Chris's claim to me in email? "blatant" use of it. 14:19 RealBadAngel so just make nyan dog out of it and case closed 14:19 celeron55 i mailed him asking him to mail me from a more authoritative e-mail 14:19 VanessaE I asked him for permission to use it in "a free open source game", he went apeshit 14:19 celeron55 stop the press until i make sure this is real 14:20 VanessaE called minetest a minecraft ripoff (without me ever mentioning either one or any terms even vaguely related), etc 14:20 celeron55 that sounds like somebody just trying to get people pissed off for fun 14:20 sfan5 RealBadAngel: lets just pretend nyan cat is a poatato, that solves anything 14:20 RealBadAngel good idea 14:20 VanessaE celeron55: hoho, you wanna see the whole exchange? 14:20 celeron55 from now on the nyan cat blocks are called "tac nayn" 14:20 * sfan5 wants to see too 14:21 RealBadAngel celeron55, have you made somethin new with yesterdays code? 14:21 celeron55 VanessaE: just publish them to the whole channel, this is our development team, to which stuff like that can openly go 14:21 VanessaE celeron55: it's too long to paste here 14:21 celeron55 (it being completely open is just how open source works) 14:21 celeron55 pastebin :P 14:22 VanessaE pastebin, of course 14:22 sfan5 or http://sfan5.dyndns.org/sfan5-paste 14:22 RealBadAngel pastabin ;) 14:22 te3 that nyan cat thing is a troll, 90% 14:22 te3 I can say from having seen a few trolls in my time 14:22 celeron55 wikipedia knows there has been other similar cases in youtube 14:22 Jeija I didn't actually suggest twitter to create publicity for the game, but to generate publicity for his answer. Saying no may scare off his fans 14:24 RealBadAngel two goals at once? 14:24 celeron55 On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 09:20:09AM -0500, Chris Torres wrote: 14:24 celeron55 > This is my official email. I am just using my gmail account because it's on my laptop right now. 14:24 Jeija mhm, game publicity is a nice side effect 14:24 celeron55 my answer? "Ok, I call bullshit." 14:24 te3 yeah right... 14:24 te3 celeron55: ask for timestamp 14:24 celeron55 i'm not going to do anything until a lawyer sends me physical mail 14:24 celeron55 after this crap 14:25 VanessaE http://pastebin.com/m2Eikd6v 14:25 VanessaE celeron55, sfan5 enjoy :-) 14:26 te3 hm just ask him on his official mail? 14:27 VanessaE also, I looked up his copyright and trademark records that he mentions. the trademarks claims are untenable because of how simplistic the artwork is, and the copyright is irrelevant anyway 14:27 celeron55 wat 14:27 te3 http://www.prguitarman.com/contact.php 14:27 VanessaE my emails were back and forth to pr@prguitarman.com 14:27 te3 ah 14:27 te3 lol 14:28 te3 >having a copyright on major internet phenomena 14:29 VanessaE te3: yep, I know...and trying to lock it down after two years of more or less free use everywhere. 14:29 te3 >which is itself a ripoff 14:29 VanessaE can we say, internet FAIL :-) 14:29 celeron55 so what is it a ripoff off? 14:29 te3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfJ37G2_l9w 14:29 te3 this 14:29 celeron55 actually i just got him on his official mail 14:30 VanessaE te3: oh that's the tune the nyancat video used isn't it? 14:31 te3 yep 14:31 VanessaE (I've never actually listened to it before) 14:31 te3 and it's older 14:31 VanessaE yup I know 14:33 VanessaE celeron55: pissed off at me now? :-) 14:34 VanessaE (I half-expect it, sticking my nose where it doesn't belong or something :D ) 14:38 celeron55 VanessaE: yes, you shouldn't have done that *at all* 14:39 * VanessaE shrugs - no good deed goes unpunished. 14:42 sfan5 celeron55: are double forum accounts allowed? 14:47 Mikeonline hi 14:50 VanessaE morning mike 14:51 Mikeonline good evening Vanessa ;) 14:53 Mikeonline QTH VanessaE? 14:53 VanessaE ? 14:54 Mikeonline USA w-e 14:54 VanessaE oh. yeah 14:56 celeron55 sfan5: i see no reason to 14:57 sfan5 to allow? 14:57 celeron55 if somebody has two, get them to tell me why 14:57 sfan5 ok 14:57 sfan5 is there an entry for it in the forum rules? 14:59 sfan5 ...i think that means no 15:00 VanessaE well since no one reads the rules link anyway, might as well plug in a new rule for it :) 15:27 VanessaE you know what? I should make an animated nyancat block to replace the default one, just to piss that guy off :-) 15:31 celeron55 http://paste.dy.fi/SEk 15:32 celeron55 yeah, there will be a nyancat mod 8) 15:32 VanessaE celeron55: ok maybe you aren't so pissed then 15:32 * VanessaE is quite sensitive this morning 15:33 celeron55 one more censored address http://paste.dy.fi/Sve 15:35 celeron55 oops, forgot one... 15:35 celeron55 mail that is 15:36 celeron55 http://paste.dy.fi/Su9 15:36 celeron55 shit 15:36 celeron55 http://paste.dy.fi/sRN 15:36 celeron55 at this rate i'm filling the namespace of this pastebin in a day 15:37 VanessaE you left one out still - looks like he referenced me in one email 15:37 VanessaE "brutally factful, not exactly rude" -- high praise from a Finn ;-) 15:38 celeron55 that has everything 15:38 VanessaE oh ok 15:38 Kray celeron55: this is bullshit 15:39 Kray I can fairly surely say that this guy has nothing to do with original nyancat art 15:40 celeron55 if you google about the author, you'll get chris whatever and guitarman or whatever 15:41 celeron55 i'd say legally he is the author, if not really (for some reason) 15:41 VanessaE "I like and respect your game" 15:41 VanessaE this from the same guy who called it a ripoff?? 15:41 VanessaE pfft 15:43 celeron55 i'd guess it's not a copy if i make it sad, make it look at a different direction, modify the ears a bit and modify all colors by one bit 15:43 celeron55 8) 15:43 VanessaE heh 15:43 VanessaE you could use my C64 version, let's see him claim that one's a copy :D 15:43 celeron55 i did draw it by hand, not copying anything in a technical way 15:43 VanessaE you hand-drew it? 15:44 VanessaE well shit, problem solved. 15:44 celeron55 of course, and it has a boatload of improvisations to make it fit the block 15:44 celeron55 just the colors and the head are exact 15:45 celeron55 there wasn't a pixel-by-pixel image available anywhere, just a video 15:45 VanessaE even the head isn't exact. ever notice how in the original gif, the head is off by a few screen pixels from where it "should" be? 15:45 VanessaE he scaled part of the image up, then pasted a scaled-up head in over it 15:51 VanessaE in fact there are enough little mistakes in the image to make it evident how it was built up. Background first, then rainbow, star field, feet and tail, body, head 15:56 RealBadAngel i dont understand the problem. i would rather tell him to stick the cat deep inside, made a node called "Torres Cat" and send him the screenshot. 15:56 VanessaE haha 15:56 VanessaE can't do that, then he's claim libel or some shit :-) 15:56 VanessaE he'd 15:56 celeron55 ehm 15:57 celeron55 don't piss him off 15:57 celeron55 8) 15:57 RealBadAngel lets stay with stickin the cat deep inside 15:57 thexyz how about tacnayn? 15:57 RealBadAngel indeed no need for torres one 15:57 thexyz i guess that one has different author 15:58 VanessaE naw, keep it cute 15:59 VanessaE apropos 15:59 VanessaE http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/278/908/f38.png 16:00 thexyz well apple can't agree with you 16:00 thexyz > (19:42:14) celeron55: i'd guess it's not a copy if i make it sad, make it look at a different direction, modify the ears a bit and modify all colors by one bit 16:01 VanessaE haha 16:01 VanessaE yeah, ask Samsung about that :-/ 16:01 RealBadAngel make it "woof woof" on_punch 16:02 VanessaE haha 16:03 celeron55 actually 16:04 celeron55 yes, it is missing a message 16:04 celeron55 ... 16:04 RealBadAngel when it asks again, you tell cat? what cat? it barks you idiot 16:05 celeron55 http://paste.dy.fi/sLG 16:08 VanessaE "but came across as extremely arrogant, disrespectful and downright rude" -- jeez talk about asshurtery 16:11 VanessaE btw, CC-BY-SA 3.0 still allows you to sell it. it's the -NC variant that doesn't. 16:12 VanessaE (not that it matters much) 16:12 MiJyn celeron55, should there be an integrated AI for the mobs? 16:13 VanessaE hi rubenwardy. 16:14 celeron55 MiJyn: dunno; but if there is, it has to be extendable 16:14 MiJyn yeah... 16:14 MiJyn that's the hard part 16:15 celeron55 well, that's programming interface design for ya 16:15 celeron55 8) 16:15 celeron55 never easy 16:15 MiJyn IKR? 16:16 VanessaE maybe just add a bunch of basic actions ("Walk forward n nodes", "turn right n degrees", "strike player", etc) and let the mod handle the actual AI? 16:17 MiJyn hmm 16:17 MiJyn yeah 16:17 VanessaE basic action -> stuff that can be done now with the existing API, but using fewer/simpler calls 16:17 MiJyn I wonder if I should add a collison-detection hook 16:17 VanessaE I would think so - for those mobs that need only touch the player to inflict damage 16:18 VanessaE (of course next thing you know, someone will design a player sprite to look like Pac Man, and mobs that look like Ghost Monsters ;) ) 16:18 jordach :) 16:18 khonkhortisan "you have been swallowed by a slime" 16:18 VanessaE hi jordach 16:18 jordach hello VanessaE 16:19 jordach now, whats with this nyan bullshit 16:19 jordach (read logs) 16:19 VanessaE an old subject ;) 16:19 celeron55 good article https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Nyan_cat 16:20 VanessaE "Nyan Cat (or Pop-Tart Cat) is a shitty meme, which was stolen by some faggot and posted on the net. " 16:20 VanessaE 100% win! 16:22 MiJyn If only someone could make a decent bow/arrow mod 16:22 VanessaE what's wrong with throwing mod? 16:23 Jeija|OFF My throwing mod is shit, I should use wielditem for the arrow and object:setyaw... Is there something like setpitch yet? 16:25 celeron55 VanessaE: the nazi troll says he'd act properly if the ban was removed 16:25 celeron55 maybe he could have a chance 16:25 VanessaE done 16:26 VanessaE let's see how long it lasts :-) 16:26 * khonkhortisan is playing the google home screen game 16:26 goebbels heil all my friends :) 16:27 MiJyn hi 16:28 VanessaE ... 16:29 goebbels I'm a neigbour of one of the Greatest Minetest Developers, so show some respect to me 16:30 MiJyn umm 16:30 MiJyn lol 16:30 RealBadAngel how one could live next to nazi troll? 16:31 MiJyn I have no idea how I managed ;( 16:31 MiJyn *:( 16:31 MiJyn fine, I didn't live RIGHT next to him 16:32 jordach ello Calinou 16:34 Calinou hi 16:36 VanessaE afternoon Calinou 16:40 rubenwardy hi VanessaE, sorry earlier, just looked in log. I had network disconnection probs 16:40 Calinou \o/ it is afternoon in france 16:40 VanessaE no worries 16:40 RealBadAngel reading about this dumb cat and the whole stuff 16:41 RealBadAngel its just dumb 16:41 khonkhortisan but you can play star treck wars on google 16:41 Calinou trek 16:41 goebbels VanessaE, you don't like me, huh? 16:42 Calinou ~obit khonkhortisan 16:42 Calinou khonkhortisan was eviscerated with a chair by Calinou who then "tries to put the pin back in" 16:42 Calinou it's trek, not treck ;) 16:42 VanessaE goebbels: I don't the nazi talk. 16:43 VanessaE Calinou: he loses 10,000 geek points for that error ;) 16:43 goebbels I don't see any nazis 16:43 khonkhortisan now I'm 11,000 down 16:44 Calinou -11,000, yeah 16:44 VanessaE khonkhortisan: not at all, you earned at least 7500 points for mesecons gates ;) 16:44 Calinou VanessaE, how many geek points do I have? :D 16:44 goebbels we should call them Mercedes-Benz-cons 16:44 jordach VanessaE, me too! 16:44 VanessaE Calinou: beats me, I don't keep track ;-) 16:45 Calinou never seen mercedes-benz being called "mese" 16:45 RealBadAngel in polish language there was such game o words, mersedes 16:46 RealBadAngel when sedes is wc seat 16:46 jordach why does this channel go nuts at times 16:46 rubenwardy what is mese, in real life? where did the name come from? 16:46 jordach its msn messenger 16:46 jordach messe (kill one s) 16:47 goebbels no, it's mercedes-benz 16:47 goebbels specifically W124 16:47 goebbels with at least 2-liter turbo engine 16:47 khonkhortisan reclining seats, a cd changer, and a sunroof 16:47 RealBadAngel stfu, kids, fish and nazi dont have the voice 16:48 jordach theres a reason why i never come here 16:48 rubenwardy celeron55?: what is mese, in real life? where did the name come from? 16:48 goebbels rubenwardy: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mese 16:48 RealBadAngel it wasnt joke with messenger 16:48 RealBadAngel but still mese node IS kinda joke ;) 16:49 goebbels MSN Messenger (Live) is the best place to find girls @ internets 16:49 rubenwardy ok 16:49 khonkhortisan who needs drugs? just look at the pictures http://www.skytopia.com/project/fractal/mandelbulb.html 16:50 * jordach leaves #minetest 16:52 Calinou poor jordach 16:53 goebbels he lost so much 16:53 Calinou goebbels, facebook is probably better for this 16:53 goebbels Calinou: no. I once almost got in touch with a pussy, and thanks to Messenger (mese) 16:54 Calinou looks like you have a fetish for kittens 16:55 goebbels no, a fetish for females 16:55 rubenwardy almost got in touch with a female, until the girl saw him on video chat 16:58 RealBadAngel lol 17:09 cornernote i put in a pull request for worldedit, patch to save/load metadata to files 17:09 khonkhortisan yay! /me goes to look 17:10 cornernote i cheated a little 17:10 cornernote used a lib 17:10 cornernote but meh, whatever works 17:10 khonkhortisan yeah, your diff is odd. 17:11 cornernote i commented on that 17:11 khonkhortisan I'm agreeing with your comment 17:11 cornernote dunno why, on the commit it showed only the changed lines 17:11 khonkhortisan and you ran git diff? 17:12 khonkhortisan it might be github's fault 17:12 cornernote windows client 17:12 cornernote i tested with a few uc's and it worked well 17:12 cornernote probably slower than the normal method 17:13 cornernote thats why i put it in //metaxxxx 17:13 cornernote cos i think the //load/save will be better for most cases 17:13 goebbels can I join the Dev Team? 17:13 goebbels I have some HTML experience etc 17:13 khonkhortisan it's open source, I think you just have to start doing something and people will notice how involved you are. 17:14 goebbels yeah, I looked the source code, but it seems weird 17:14 goebbels is it some new html syntax? 17:14 khonkhortisan it's c++ and lua 17:17 cornernote have a read of this to get started making mods - http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/tutorial/englishEN.html 17:17 RealBadAngel dont play with troll 17:17 rubenwardy :) 17:17 khonkhortisan I didn't know c55 was finnish 17:18 goebbels all the good guys are finnish 17:18 RealBadAngel except for some trolls 17:19 jin_xi hatifnattes? 17:19 jin_xi you guys know tove johanson? i think im gonna add a tove themed mod 17:20 goebbels jin_xi: don't know her, but I know some Tove Jansson 17:20 khonkhortisan I hate falling through spiral staircases 17:21 jin_xi a hemul collecting flowers, hatifnattes gathering in thunderstorms and the morra eating torches. 17:22 khonkhortisan you'd need weather 17:22 goebbels jin_xi: he was Jansson, not Johanson 17:27 rubenwardy lol 17:39 PilzAdam sup guys? 17:41 goebbels heil PilzAdam 17:44 goebbels PilzAdam: how are you? 17:44 goebbels PilzAdam: um sie stehen die Fahnen und Standarten dieses Minetestimus 18:14 khonkhortisan ha! just fixed the null cell logic 18:17 VanessaE woot! 18:17 khonkhortisan gotta clean up my debug messages, then release it with my example world 18:24 hmmmm http://rt.com/news/apple-patent-transmission-block-408/ 18:25 celeron55 rt.com is full of win 18:26 khonkhortisan I didn't know Minetest World<... actually got saved 18:27 khonkhortisan each html tag creates a subdirectory 18:29 celeron55 that sounds odd... since when was >< a directory delimiter? 18:29 Calinou khonkhortisan, on windows? 18:29 khonkhortisan since when minetest doesn't process it correctly or block the symbol | no, suse linux 18:30 Calinou windows: the only OS that yells about filenames that work normally on other OSes 18:30 Calinou lol, suse 18:30 Calinou lmfao. 18:30 khonkhortisan <html><head><title>Minetest World< 18:30 khonkhortisan then title>< 18:30 khonkhortisan head>< 18:30 goebbels >.< 18:30 khonkhortisan then html and html> each with their own world.mt 18:30 celeron55 ah, that / in there 18:30 celeron55 it should be blocked in 0.4.3 18:31 khonkhortisan oh, I thought it was <'s 18:32 celeron55 now, let me ask 18:32 celeron55 why on earth have you attempted to make a world with html tags in it's name? 18:33 khonkhortisan to see if it would break, I saw that a bunch of slashes didn't break it 18:33 khonkhortisan and I can make a world called ;,.p 18:33 celeron55 you should be able to name a world ")#¤"¤=!µ-_Å¡ and it should work 18:34 goebbels I think that only sensible world names should be allowed 18:35 VanessaE imagine trying to relay that filename to someone by voice though.. "um, yeah - the filename is quote parenthesis number sign um..some little circle..quote.." 18:35 VanessaE heh 18:36 NakedFury quote parenthesis number-sign circle-square quote circle-square equal exclamation inverted-h minus underscore s-with doble points on top 18:37 NakedFury then when that someone looks at you with a stupid expression you strike, hitting him with a migthy dlap 18:37 NakedFury slap 18:39 VanessaE (circle, of course I know is "currency") 18:40 celeron55 wat 18:40 celeron55 "inverted h"?! 18:40 NakedFury µ 18:40 VanessaE haha 18:40 goebbels that's not inverted h 18:40 celeron55 COME ON, IT'S http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_%28letter%29 18:41 celeron55 what do they teach in schools there 18:41 goebbels I guess nothing 18:41 NakedFury not greek or latin 18:41 celeron55 that's used in maths and physics 18:41 goebbels that's a basic symbol in maths 18:41 VanessaE I taught myself the greek alphabet back in my pre-teens 18:41 VanessaE don't remember all of it now though 18:41 NakedFury havent taken physics not even in highschool 18:42 NakedFury just shows what a complete shit this system is 18:42 celeron55 i have no idea of the full greek alphabet, but i sure know those commonly used in science 18:42 goebbels I think Mensa IQ eximination should be taken by those who are willing to participate in the Minetest community 18:42 VanessaE yup. alpha, lambda, gamma, mu, sigma 18:42 VanessaE those are the ones that seem most common 18:42 VanessaE delta also. 18:43 NakedFury I know some of those but no the symbols 18:43 goebbels no offense, but are you a bit retarded? 18:43 NakedFury no thats keegan 18:43 NakedFury im just lacking in some knowledge 18:43 NakedFury very different 18:44 NakedFury I dont use much math so I dont need Mu 18:44 celeron55 "no offence, but suck my dick you retarded asshole motherfucker" 18:44 NakedFury yeah I expect that from landmine 18:44 VanessaE celeron55: taking lessons in American English again? ;-) 18:44 celeron55 i know some of these words! 18:45 VanessaE seriously, that's straight-outta-the-US-midwest redneck-speak there :-) 18:46 cosarara97 straight-outta-the-US-midwest redneck-speak? 18:46 goebbels finns are rednecks by default 18:46 goebbels or "juntti" in finnish 18:47 VanessaE cosarara97: yep - piss off someone who calls him-/herselg a redneck and expect to find that kind of vitriol as their response :-) 18:47 VanessaE -self* 18:48 goebbels why don't I have any friends :( 18:48 goebbels I'm so lonely 18:48 goebbels Minetest is not social enough for me 18:49 celeron55 ...you haven't probably even started the game once (altough that does not help the problem) 8) 18:50 goebbels I once almost tried it 18:51 Mikeonline n8 18:54 goebbels but the system requirements were too high for my hardware 18:54 goebbels I'm not such a rich guy that can afford whatever hardware just to play some games 18:55 Calinou lmao NakedFury 18:58 goebbels there should be a female sect in MT 18:58 goebbels so that we lonely males could find them more easily 19:00 NakedFury then you got to ask all females to have clearly identifiable female names 19:00 NakedFury like vanessa and I hope isabella 19:01 Keegann hello 19:03 VanessaE DarkDragon writes on the forums, "im going to keep saying 4.3 if people cant just ignore it they shouldnt be on the forums to begin with" 19:03 VanessaE no matter how many people correct him. 19:03 VanessaE stupid stupid stupid stupid. 19:04 NakedFury wonder how different MT is gonna be on version 4.3 19:05 VanessaE who knows. will it even need to go that high? At the current numbering, it would take about 15 years to get there :-) 19:05 VanessaE (even though the development is moving far faster than that) 19:07 Keegann whats up 19:07 goebbels VanessaE, are you a single? 19:07 VanessaE married. 19:07 goebbels (not to mention that i like f's) 19:07 goebbels okay 19:09 leo_rockway VanessaE: it only took WINE 15 years to reach v1.0... 19:09 VanessaE heh 19:09 leo_rockway and e17 might release soon, after only 12 years of beta. 19:14 celeron55 if minetest 0.5 ever comes, it'll be quite a rewrite 19:15 VanessaE celeron55: your input is required: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=41478#p41478 19:15 goebbels and me as one of the core re-writers 19:15 goebbels shitty thread, did not understand 19:16 goebbels I guess he's not-so-light-skinned guy 19:16 goebbels according to his way of speech 19:26 NakedFury usually its version v2.0 that is a rewrite 19:26 goebbels usually? 19:26 goebbels hah hah 19:27 goebbels shut the fuck up loser 19:27 NakedFury Minetest 2.0. Codename Renacimiento just not to use Rebirth, Reborn or any english name 19:27 goebbels why not: Uudelleensyntymä, in finnish 19:27 goebbels or Uudelleensyntyminen 19:27 NakedFury Uudestisyntynyt 19:27 goebbels not to use any english name 19:27 NakedFury ohh you went faster 19:27 goebbels that would be better! 19:27 goebbels no 19:28 goebbels Uudestisyntynyt is the best 19:28 goebbels thank you 19:28 goebbels did not even think of it 19:28 goebbels Minetest: Uudestisyntynyt 19:28 goebbels as: reborn 19:30 celeron55 i'll just jump straight to Minetest 1337.0 19:30 rubenwardy bye 19:30 NakedFury Minetest 3.0 Codename: imeä sitä kaivoksen veneet 19:31 NakedFury so people have to use google translator to check what it says 19:31 Keegann hey sdzen 19:31 celeron55 NakedFury: that doesn't make any sense :P 19:31 NakedFury suck it minecraft 19:31 NakedFury suck it mine craft 19:31 goebbels imeä sitä kaivoksen veneet :D :D :D 19:31 goebbels hahahahah 19:31 NakedFury that is what google gave me 19:32 goebbels what were you trying to say nakedfury? 19:32 goebbels that means just NOTHING 19:32 goebbels and not even translatable to anything 19:32 celeron55 well technically it's kind of right, except that "veneet" is "boats", and you don't translate minecraft to finnish 19:32 NakedFury ooooohhh 19:32 goebbels aah, he tried to translate minecraft... 19:32 celeron55 and "ime sitä" isn't a common way to say "suck it" in finnish, you need to say what to suck 19:33 goebbels as mine is kaivos and craft is like.. a craft 19:33 goebbels but at least not a boat 19:33 celeron55 so it'd be something like "ime kyrpää minecraft" 19:33 celeron55 goebbels: i guess it misunderstood it for raft or something... 19:34 goebbels celeron55: craft is "alus" 19:34 celeron55 oh well whatever 8) 19:34 NakedFury ok that clearly would not work so we leave out codenames or just use animals like Java or random words 19:34 goebbels like a spacecraft = avaruusalus 19:35 NakedFury that word sounds like a dinosaur if I just pronounce in spanish 19:35 goebbels no! 19:35 goebbels finnish is very good codename language when used correctly 19:35 goebbels always ask a native finnish and not google translator 19:35 NakedFury yeah the translator would even translate ime 19:36 goebbels finnish is not-translatable in the means of bots 19:36 goebbels it really needs human intervention 19:37 goebbels when I need to translate some foreign language, I never translate it to finnish 19:37 goebbels but instead to english 19:37 celeron55 that is mostly because finnish works in a somewhat different way than other european languages 19:38 celeron55 the algorithms just aren't developed that much for it 19:39 goebbels it's a constant source of kidding to read the instructions of foreign products "translated" in finnish 19:39 goebbels they just make no any sense 19:39 NakedFury I do that 19:39 NakedFury from chinese made products 19:40 NakedFury sometimes its amazing how bad it sounds 19:41 goebbels finnish is a language of Gods! 19:42 goebbels since now there is now a dark-skinned human able to speak and wirte correct finnish 19:42 goebbels because it needs some IQ 19:42 khonkhortisan VanessaE and others: https://github.com/khonkhortisan/mesecons_extrawires <-- mod | Redpower2's "Null Cell" in mesecons | world --> http://www.mediafire.com/?71i8b9qx28sqys2 19:43 Jeija lemme see, good chances to get merged 19:43 khonkhortisan I still think the textures should be improved on the crossing wire 19:44 VanessaE sweet 19:45 goebbels we are about to introduce the Nazi Swastika Block in the MT version 0.5 19:45 goebbels it gives one the super powahs 19:46 khonkhortisan the ends would have to turn back to the center of the sides so it wouldn't look much like a swastika 19:48 Jeija good job khonkhortisan, but "you hacker you"! 19:48 khonkhortisan hehe 19:52 jordach please tell me its quiet in here 19:52 Keegann yes 19:52 VanessaE khonkhortisan: cna you make it so the cross wire appears automatically? 19:53 VanessaE i.e. if the player tries to place: 19:53 * jordach sees sdzen in the user list 19:53 VanessaE well, one wire on each side of another that have different facedirs 19:53 khonkhortisan If I were to do that how would you have a microcontroller connect to crossed wire? 19:53 VanessaE I don't understand 19:54 sdzen hmm? 19:55 khonkhortisan that world has a grid of crossed wires with microcontrollers sprinkled in. If it takes four insulated wires surrounding one insulated wire to make a crossing wire, how would you get the µc in there too? 19:55 jordach celeron55, i dont see why we dont use chunk sizes of 32 - it seems faster in 0.4.3 19:55 VanessaE khonkhortisan: really though, it should be easy to detect: 19:55 VanessaE | | | | 19:55 VanessaE | --> ---| --> ---|--- --> ---)--- 19:55 VanessaE | | | | 19:56 VanessaE it should detect only if the facedir of the three wires is different 19:56 khonkhortisan So I do that, then take out the right insulated wire, and it uncrosses? 19:56 VanessaE if there's nothing in that center spot, the four surrounding wires will all have the same facedir 19:56 VanessaE yes 19:56 VanessaE exactly 19:56 khonkhortisan but that would break the example world 19:56 VanessaE take out any of the three and it becomes three regular or uinsulated wires or whatever 19:57 VanessaE only make it appear if there are exactly five wires and two of them have a different facedir than the other three 20:00 VanessaE but I see what you mean re: putting them close to a device 20:00 khonkhortisan ||| 20:00 khonkhortisan -+++- 20:00 khonkhortisan -+µ+- 20:00 khonkhortisan -+++- 20:00 khonkhortisan ||| 20:00 VanessaE yeah, I saw that 20:00 khonkhortisan that wouldn't happen 20:00 Keegann  20:00 VanessaE I guess a separate node is okay, but surely there's a way to detect a condition where a crossing should appear 20:00 khonkhortisan It would be nice to automatically change, but it shouldn't break what it already does. 20:01 goebbels aww 20:01 goebbels hey guys 20:01 goebbels I'm in love with a nice 1991 born girl 20:02 goebbels she's so hawt 20:02 khonkhortisan What if you put a line of wire one direction, then when you put another line you punch the placed wire with the wire you're holding and it changes? Right now I have a recipe. 20:02 VanessaE hm 20:02 VanessaE that's a thought 20:02 VanessaE it would interfere with removing the wires though 20:03 khonkhortisan can node.drop be a stack of two items? 20:03 VanessaE yes 20:03 VanessaE I think spo 20:03 VanessaE so 20:03 goebbels the Great Leader is threatening me 20:06 Keegann why u ban him 20:10 celeron55 he just speaks random crap 20:10 celeron55 always completely offtopic 20:10 Keegann ok 20:11 jordach celeron55, i dont see why we dont use chunk sizes of 32 - it seems faster in 0.4.3, however, users of this patch cannot use 16 chunk size servers 20:12 celeron55 jordach: ehm 20:12 celeron55 jordach: that makes all data incompatible 20:13 iqualfragile who got banned? 20:14 khonkhortisan goebbels just before you got here 20:14 jordach celeron55, ill look into data conversion later 20:16 khonkhortisan eventually we may be able to use arbitrary chunk sizes set in minetest.conf 20:17 jordach and for that odd reason - the framerate ups by 5% 20:22 Keegann 😹 20:22 Tengri hey 20:23 MuadTralk is that a cat? 20:23 Keegann yea 20:23 khonkhortisan nyan😹nyan 20:23 Keegann 😈 20:23 VanessaE meow. 20:24 VanessaE just don't show that to nekogloop or we'll never see the end of it :) 20:24 Keegann 😈 < thats a devil 20:24 Keegann frist one is a cat 20:24 VanessaE I meant the first pne 20:24 VanessaE one* 20:25 * khonkhortisan ☚ 20:25 celeron55 just wtf IS that? 20:25 celeron55 hmm, a hand with a finger pointing left 20:25 Keegann thats a gun pointed to his head i think 20:26 khonkhortisan if you look really closely you can see a hand 20:26 khonkhortisan need some rain ☂ 20:26 celeron55 i pasted it to my browser and ctrl++++++++++++++++++'d 20:26 khonkhortisan http://fsymbols.com/all/ 20:26 Keegann ☿ dont know what is it 20:27 celeron55 unicode is silly; we all have all these obscure symbols stored on our computers 20:27 celeron55 that we will never, ever use 20:27 khonkhortisan 2:?? 1:⁇ 20:27 Keegann i find them in wiki 20:28 * khonkhortisan â™—'s your ♜ 20:28 Keegann ಠ_ಠ20:28 khonkhortisan I still can't read that 20:29 khonkhortisan oh that's what it is 20:29 khonkhortisan ♜♞♝♚♛♝♞♜ 20:29 khonkhortisan ♟♟♟♟♟♟♟♟ 20:29 khonkhortisan â–“â–‘â–“â–‘â–“â–‘â–“â–‘â–“â–‘â–“â–‘ 20:29 khonkhortisan â–‘â–“â–‘â–“â–‘â–“â–‘â–“â–‘â–“â–‘â–“ 20:29 khonkhortisan â–“â–‘â–“â–‘â–“â–‘â–“â–‘â–“â–‘â–“â–‘ 20:30 khonkhortisan â–‘â–“â–‘â–“â–‘â–“â–‘â–“â–‘â–“â–‘â–“ 20:30 khonkhortisan ♙♙♙♙♙♙♙♙ 20:30 Keegann >:) >;) >:-) 20:30 khonkhortisan ♖♘♗♔♕♗♘♖ 20:30 khonkhortisan hehe sorry for spamming 20:30 khonkhortisan I keep forgetting how to push a new branch 20:31 jordach c55, sanity check? 20:32 VanessaE getting back on topic for a moment, what's the story on CPU usage of ABMs? Is it really any less CPU-intensive to execute one ABM that does a bunch of stuff, or several that each do one thing (in this case, spawning flowers) 20:33 VanessaE I'm trying to evaluate cy1's pull request, but I'm not sure 20:33 Keegann ｡◕ ‿ ◕｡ 20:34 celeron55 VanessaE: i might be able to guess if i see the full code 20:35 iqualfragile who got banned? 20:35 Keegann (_|_) 20:36 VanessaE celeron55: https://github.com/cyisfor/flowers/commit/465bd5960898fb18cd07b4d685aacaab0f6181e0 versus the full code at https://github.com/VanessaE/flowers/blob/master/init.lua 20:38 jordach VanessaE, HOW? http://i.imgur.com/8iVM3.png 20:38 VanessaE I'm not the greatest at reading others' code, and his changes break the existing flowers API (as mine already did once), but I hate to throw out a pull request if it's good 20:38 celeron55 generally, if one needs to quit an ABM due to an extra condition checked in lua, it will be always worse than making ABMs that will check the condition better in C++, in the cases where it is possible 20:38 jordach minetest classic SHOULD NOT WORK WITH 0.4.3 20:39 VanessaE but it does? 20:39 VanessaE weird 20:39 VanessaE strict protocol checking? 20:39 VanessaE (or lack of) 20:39 jordach i have no idea 20:40 celeron55 what are you talking about 20:41 iqualfragile celeron55: are there win-builds of 4.3? 20:41 jordach i still love 0.2 more than the latest game 20:41 jordach 0.4.3 20:42 celeron55 iqualfragile: ...? 20:42 iqualfragile im running the latest code from the git repos on my server 20:42 iqualfragile and i have players using windows 20:42 jordach iqualfragile, https://github.com/downloads/celeron55/minetest/minetest-0.4.3-win32.zip 20:42 iqualfragile so are there windows-builds? 20:43 jordach yes! 20:43 celeron55 ehm... how hard can it be? http://www.minetest.net/download.php 20:44 iqualfragile i looked at that yesterday, the protocol was incompatible but there was no release 20:44 iqualfragile thankyou 20:44 jordach iqualfragile, always check http://github.com/downloads/celeron55/minetest/ for the newest stuff 20:45 jordach (does not work) 20:45 iqualfragile it tells me thats not the page im looking for 20:45 jordach iqualfragile, i realized as i hit enter 20:51 ecube Yes. Everybody likes leveing. :P 20:52 celeron55 what does tha word mean 20:52 * jordach re-compiles own fork.........agaj 20:52 jordach s/agaj/again.. 21:00 VanessaE jordach: so what's the word? Does it indeed work? What'd you do, sign onto redcrab's server or so? 21:17 cy1 Anyone know how to get a corner stair? like a slab with one quarter of a stair above it... 21:17 VanessaE - - M 21:17 VanessaE oops 21:18 VanessaE M M M 21:18 VanessaE - - M 21:18 VanessaE - - M 21:18 VanessaE M = material in question 21:18 cy1 hm... 21:18 * cy1 tries 21:18 VanessaE that's the only one I know of 21:19 cy1 huh, a sideways stair 21:20 VanessaE suggest the other kind to Calinou :-) 21:20 cy1 sure thing... 21:20 VanessaE (I could see it being crafted from two slabs and one panel) 21:21 VanessaE resul should be two corner stairs of the type you were thinking of 21:21 VanessaE result* 21:46 jordach VanessaE, compiling locked me out 21:46 VanessaE ? 21:46 VanessaE huh. 21:47 jordach i could not do a thing 21:47 cy1 server too old? 21:47 VanessaE you sure you were *really* using 'classic' and not a rebadged 0.4.3? ;-) 21:50 Keegann whatca guys been up to 21:50 jordach VanessaE, minetest 0.4.3 can connect to me, but i cant connect to you 21:50 VanessaE interesting 21:51 jordach btw - new screenies incoming 21:52 jordach http://i.imgur.com/KD7RA.png 0.4.3 like mapgen (one / two edits) and http://i.imgur.com/WXwoK.jpg nice and clean pause screen 21:52 jordach (ignore the huge pause screen, too lazy for alt + prt scrn) 21:53 VanessaE cool 22:00 jordach ewww 22:06 Keegann anyone know a good sandbox channel? 22:06 jordach sandbox? 22:07 jordach Keegann, google it. 22:09 Keegann why s it so queit here 22:09 VanessaE hardly anyone on now I guess 22:09 Keegann minecraft problem kinda fix 22:10 VanessaE er, we don't care about minecraft :-) 22:10 Keegann i dont either :) 22:10 Keegann that why i went there 22:21 OWNSyouAll hey how do i scroll up in the chat? 22:21 VanessaE depends on your client. 22:21 OWNSyouAll VanessaE: im using 0.4.3 on linux 22:21 VanessaE oh 22:21 VanessaE you mean the game 22:22 VanessaE um, F10 and mouse scroll wheel I think 22:22 VanessaE or page up/down, I forget which 22:22 OWNSyouAll VanessaE: ya that worked thanks 22:23 NekoGloop is there a realbadangel_ among us? :) 22:23 Keegann NekoGloop >> 😹 22:23 NekoGloop keegann: rectangle? 22:23 VanessaE hey NekoGloop 😹 22:23 Keegann kitty 22:23 VanessaE bah, ninja'd 22:24 NekoGloop minecraft's demo version is so fail at being a good demo ;) 22:24 VanessaE NekoGloop: install whatever internationalization and unicode packages your OS needs 22:24 NekoGloop you can easily bypass the set time it gives you 22:24 Keegann how do you get unicode and emotical 22:25 Keegann is there like a download or no? 22:25 NekoGloop and realbadangel_: better than wolves has a 1.3.2 update. 22:25 NekoGloop (minecraft) 22:27 NekoGloop vanessae: whatcha up to? :) 22:27 VanessaE no good, as usual :-) 22:27 NekoGloop heh 22:28 NekoGloop well i just crashed minecraft... the only thing it does better in my opinion is run at a -steady- low FPS, instead of minetest's jumpy fps 22:30 VanessaE heh 22:30 VanessaE hey vorte----er... mrtux ;) 22:31 VanessaE oh. autojoin :-/ 22:31 mrtux my computer reboots randomly ;_: 22:31 Keegann hey 22:31 mrtux *;_; 22:32 VanessaE I hate computers some days 22:32 VanessaE sometimes I wonder if life was easier when we used LOAD and RUN to start our programs ;0 22:32 VanessaE ;) 22:40 Keegann It`s too late to apologize. The damage is done. 22:40 NekoGloop ... wha...? 22:41 VanessaE ? 22:41 Keegann qoute of me 22:46 Keegann KEEGANNS MOTTO: Those who control their passions do so because their passions are weak enough to be controlled. --OldCoder 22:48 VanessaE heh 22:54 OWNSyouAll is there way to see all the blocks that got changed at a location using rollback_check 22:55 VanessaE dunno, never used that feature myself 23:08 VanessaE celeron55: with these latest changes you did to try to balance out the map generator's load, 3dforniture's round trees perform far better now 23:45 NekoGloop how hard would an enchanting table be in the current api? 23:46 VanessaE depends on what it's supposed to do :-) 23:46 NekoGloop minecraft-esque 23:46 VanessaE and it does...what? :-) 23:47 NekoGloop gives tools special properties, such as fire aspect (sword-only, sets mobs on fire), efficency (faster mining), etc. 23:47 VanessaE Idoable with the current API 23:48 VanessaE I's say it's doable with the current API, but it means replacing many tools' definitons 23:48 VanessaE (as in re-defining them to handle the extra properties, as well as adding code to make them do whatever) 23:49 VanessaE it also depends on whether the targets can take on whatever properties the enchanted tools are supposed to deliver, such as the aforementioned burning mobs 23:49 NekoGloop or iterating through all tools and registering them with all combinations of the effects. 23:50 NekoGloop all possible combinations* 23:50 VanessaE that's possible, but not particularly efficient of course 23:50 NekoGloop yup 23:50 VanessaE with the current API that's probably all you can do 23:51 NekoGloop yup 23:51 NekoGloop just curious 23:51 NekoGloop the afformentioned solution makes all tools be registered as enchant-able, which minecraft modders are constantly dumbfounded by. 23:52 VanessaE but like I said, it depends on whether you can also write the code necessary to make those enchantments actually work 23:52 NekoGloop uh-huh 23:53 NekoGloop as usual :P 23:53 VanessaE but then again, if RBA could shoehorn a pseudo-multithreaded ABM handler into the existing game without modifying the engine code... 23:53 VanessaE (unless he opted for some other method) 23:53 NekoGloop note he hasnt released anything yet 23:54 VanessaE I know 23:54 VanessaE he's like me in that regard - get up to v1.0 before release if possible. 23:55 VanessaE demoscene coder mentality 23:55 VanessaE :) 23:57 NekoGloop who wants me to make a sword addition, with some swords that have special properties? :D 23:58 FreeFull NekoGloop: Enchant an enchanting table! 23:58 NekoGloop ? 23:58 FreeFull Which I guess doesn't count as a tool 23:59 NekoGloop in mc, or was that just the most random thing ever? 23:59 FreeFull Meow 23:59 NekoGloop no that's not as random 23:59 NekoGloop not nearly ;)