Time Nick Message 00:00 VanessaE cool 00:00 NekoGloop do you want it when I'm done? 00:00 VanessaE no that's ok 00:00 NekoGloop D: 00:00 VanessaE but upload/release it anyway 00:00 NekoGloop Why not? 00:00 VanessaE don'tn eed it :-) 00:01 NekoGloop If there isnt a single person here who wants it I'm just not gonna release it 00:01 VanessaE release it anyway 00:01 VanessaE someone will want it 00:01 NekoGloop No. 00:01 NekoGloop I doubt it. 00:01 VanessaE but for them to know, they have to see it :-) 00:01 NekoGloop Most people wont try it 00:01 VanessaE never use this IRC channel as a gauge, you'll almost always get incorrect results 00:01 NekoGloop lol 00:02 NekoGloop Well I guess it's staying in Modding General if I release it. 00:02 VanessaE it'll get moved if it meets the Mod Releases section's rules :-) 00:02 VanessaE (and if I'm not too lazy to move it :D ) 00:03 NekoGloop like you're too lazy to move GloopOres 00:04 VanessaE hm, move the file to ompldr or dropbox or so 00:05 VanessaE sendspace tried to open a popup 00:05 NekoGloop you apparently had no problem with moving GloopBlocks, which does the same. 00:05 VanessaE I didn't download it :D 00:05 NekoGloop lol 00:05 NekoGloop anyway 00:06 NekoGloop since github has decided to not hate me any more I might put it on github 00:06 VanessaE moved. 00:06 VanessaE is neko a happy kitty now? ;) 00:06 NekoGloop No 00:06 VanessaE aw :( 00:07 NekoGloop inb4 it gets moved back 00:08 PilzAdam MiniTest is now on github: https://github.com/PilzAdam 00:08 NekoGloop Cool. 00:08 NekoGloop Moreores tools... y u take so long to texture >.> 00:08 VanessaE it'll probably remain where it is since it does meet the section's criteria 00:09 PilzAdam gtg 00:09 PilzAdam bye 00:09 VanessaE the download link is just a side note; c55 doesn't like download links that have lots of ads, or popups, or make you fill out a captcha or sign in 00:10 NekoGloop well sendshare doesnt give me a popup 00:10 NekoGloop of course... I havent actually -USED- sendshare to download something 00:10 VanessaE me neither, thanks to firefox blocking it :-) 00:10 VanessaE (it informed me that it blocked one) 00:11 NekoGloop lol 00:14 NekoGloop so you mean to tell me you never downloaded EITHER of my mods? 00:14 VanessaE I never had the chance :-) 00:14 VanessaE been too busy 00:14 NekoGloop with what? 00:15 VanessaE hacking on mesecons :-) 00:15 NekoGloop lol 00:16 NekoGloop I've got 2/4 of moreores done 00:16 VanessaE by the way, you can rely on moreores without *depending* on it if you want 00:16 VanessaE just make your recipes like usual, but leave it out of your depends.txt 00:16 VanessaE if it doesn't exist, the related recipes simply don't work. 00:18 NekoGloop but what if my mod doesnt run after moreores? 00:18 VanessaE doesn't matter 00:18 NekoGloop oh ok 00:18 VanessaE at least as far as I can tell it doesn't 00:19 NekoGloop still gonna make there be a config.lua, so that that 30-60 seconds of registering tools and crafts are not wasted 00:19 VanessaE heh ok 00:21 NekoGloop since there's 8 tools for each ore, and then 4 tool-making ores in moreores, and then on top of that gloopores has 2 more ores to add to that. 00:21 NekoGloop so... 8x6 00:21 VanessaE lotta tools 00:21 NekoGloop ikr 00:21 NekoGloop looking at the textures I can tell 00:22 NekoGloop not that I cant tell anyway; my fingers are the ones that are typing 00:22 NekoGloop *cough*but copy and paste is a life-saver*cough* 00:22 VanessaE haha 00:23 NekoGloop the only things I need to change are tool_capabilities, description, name, and crafting recipes 00:23 VanessaE hope you're using a loop to initialize it all 00:23 NekoGloop lol i would if I could 00:23 VanessaE it's easy 00:23 NekoGloop lol ya right 00:24 VanessaE make a table with all the tool capabilities, another table with the descriptions in the same order, names, crafting recipes 00:24 * NekoGloop cant even make a loop in GAMEMAKER and not have it error 00:24 VanessaE then you use a loop to walk through the items one at a time, picking off entries in the tables to fill in your register_craft and register_node calls 00:25 VanessaE takes about half as much code, or less, than to copy&paste every node/craft call for each unique item 00:25 NekoGloop how about... I do it my way and let some wise-ass attempt to one-up me with shorter code. 00:25 VanessaE er 00:25 NekoGloop then mercilessly take his code 00:26 VanessaE (motions toward NekoGloop... Who pissed in his cat food this morning?) 00:26 NekoGloop Everyone 00:26 NekoGloop Everyone who didnt try to help with alchemy mod 00:26 NekoGloop which is everyone here but PilzAdan 00:27 NekoGloop PilzAdam* 00:27 VanessaE not everyone here knows the whole minetest API yet :-) 00:27 VanessaE and with the travesty that is the API doc, I think no one ever will except c55 :) 00:27 NekoGloop the only thing people could say was 00:27 NekoGloop "look at lua_api.txt" 00:28 NekoGloop Even though I KEEP THE GODDAMN THING OPEN IN NOTEPAD++ 00:29 VanessaE jeez 00:29 NekoGloop why dont they look and see what my eyes are missing, huh? 00:30 NekoGloop just... answer that for me. 00:30 VanessaE because most are too busy with other stuff or are too lazy :-) 00:30 NekoGloop ok then 00:31 NekoGloop btw: alchemy mod has been discontinued 00:31 VanessaE bummer 00:31 NekoGloop well... 00:31 NekoGloop 1) it became more like physics 00:31 NekoGloop 2) got too complicated 00:32 VanessaE well don't delete the code - you may decide to pick it back up some day 00:32 NekoGloop My workbenchcrafts mod is going to have an uber-tool :D 00:32 NekoGloop VanessaE: I just mass-commented the entire file. 00:32 VanessaE standard geek rule: If you break something, save all the pieces. 00:32 NekoGloop The uber-tool is going to use a LOT of items :D 00:33 VanessaE and if it never worked to begin with, hack it to do something new :-) 00:33 NekoGloop uber-tool will use ingots from gloopores AND moreores. :D 00:34 VanessaE what's the purpose of it? 00:34 NekoGloop destroying blocks quickly and long tool life 00:35 NekoGloop souped-up mese pick basically :D 00:35 VanessaE ah 00:35 NekoGloop will dig crumbly, cracky, and fleshy 00:35 NekoGloop (choppy as well) 00:36 NekoGloop this reminds me of the time I tried to make a texture pack for another game. 00:37 NekoGloop I wonder if the downloadable free trial of minecraft is working yet lol 00:38 VanessaE byute your tongue 00:38 VanessaE byte, too 00:38 NekoGloop ? 00:39 NekoGloop Why? 00:39 VanessaE minecraft indeed 00:39 VanessaE such language 00:39 NekoGloop LOL 00:39 * NekoGloop places his tounge under his left fang 00:39 * NekoGloop bite 00:40 NekoGloop funny thing is I actually have little "fangs" on my 3rd teeth from the center, on the top, either side. 00:40 VanessaE everyone does I think 00:40 NekoGloop no mine are more pronounced 00:40 cy1 Those would be your canines. 00:40 VanessaE there's a reason those are called 'canines' :-) 00:40 VanessaE hey cy1. 00:40 NekoGloop well I want "felines" ;) 00:41 cy1 hey :( 00:41 VanessaE :( ? 00:41 NekoGloop cy1: most fail-lurker ever 00:42 cy1 Just spent all day not having anyone to play w/ 00:42 VanessaE aww 00:42 cy1 wish minetest was more like Second Life 00:42 VanessaE you've got us :-) 00:42 NekoGloop go to the backstab server 00:42 NekoGloop its usually active 00:42 NekoGloop and if not I could help with that ;) 00:42 cy1 eh 00:42 cy1 too late now I have to cook dinner. 00:43 VanessaE ao cook dinner and come back :-) 00:43 NekoGloop what time zone u in LOL 00:43 cy1 -800 I think? 00:43 cy1 it's almost 6pm 00:43 NekoGloop ah 2 hours behind me 00:44 NekoGloop (no wait 3) 00:44 cy1 west coast! 00:44 NekoGloop dammit, computer clock, y u never right 00:44 VanessaE 8:44pm here 00:44 NekoGloop I'm same as VanessaE 00:44 * VanessaE munches on cashew chicken over rice 00:44 * NekoGloop is eating his lip 00:44 NekoGloop damn I'm hungry 00:44 VanessaE so go eat 00:45 NekoGloop There's not a thing to eat in the house 00:45 VanessaE order in? 00:45 NekoGloop (at least nothing for a snack) 00:45 NekoGloop VanessaE: would except you need money for that. 00:45 VanessaE oh. 00:46 VanessaE well there's always ramen noodles, those are cheap enough anyway :-) 00:46 NekoGloop lol we have some 00:46 NekoGloop but those are for my lunch 00:46 VanessaE cook chicken flavor, drain thoroughly, combine noodles and seasoning with a little sour cream and some ground turkey 00:47 VanessaE = pseudo-stroganoff 00:47 VanessaE tastes pretty good, too 00:47 NekoGloop ew, sour cream 00:48 VanessaE oh no, believe me it works here. 00:48 NekoGloop 1) I dont like sour cream EVER 00:48 NekoGloop 2) We dont have any ;) 00:48 VanessaE have you ever even TRIED it? 00:48 NekoGloop YES 00:49 NekoGloop AND I DONT LIKE IT 00:49 VanessaE ok then you're allowed to turn your nose up at it :D 00:49 NekoGloop Taco Bell saw to that ;) 00:50 leo_rockway sour cream \o/ 00:50 NekoGloop ew 00:50 VanessaE sour cream FTW :-) 00:51 NekoGloop Now I'm on the last material from moreores, silver, 00:51 leo_rockway Linux 3.5.2 \o/ my versionitis is pleased. 00:51 VanessaE there are six materials in moreores. :-) 00:52 NekoGloop (no I mean of tool making materials) 00:52 VanessaE gold, silver, copper, tin, mithril, bronze 00:52 NekoGloop copper and tin are for technic mod ;) 00:52 VanessaE I think all of those are used in moreores to make tools. 00:52 NekoGloop no copper and tin are not, they make bronze 00:52 VanessaE well not tin. 00:52 leo_rockway somebody mentioned they wanted to do a melting mod, to make bronze. 00:53 VanessaE right, shows how often I use it for tools :-) 00:53 leo_rockway I never remember nicks :S 00:53 NekoGloop I think you mean RBA, he's making an alloy furnace in technic mod 00:53 leo_rockway awesome 00:53 leo_rockway RBA is doing the two mods I mentioned today 00:53 leo_rockway RealBadAngel: kudos! 00:54 NekoGloop RBA only has one mod... right? 00:54 VanessaE dunno, think so 00:55 leo_rockway grinder and melting pot sounds good 00:55 NekoGloop yup he's only got one giant mod 00:55 NekoGloop unless he's got one he's not sharing 00:55 NekoGloop (which is VERY likely) 00:57 NekoGloop anyways: if anyone wants to give me a better large shovel image that would be VERY appreciated. 00:57 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZjRicA/screenshot_40521471.png you can see it in my inventory in this picture 00:58 NekoGloop (and yes I use the default textures) 00:58 NekoGloop (AND I KNOW THERE'S FREAKIN PAPYRUS IN THE BACKGROUND) 00:58 NekoGloop (and my monitor -is- widescreen) 00:59 NekoGloop (and I'm say too many things in parentheses) 00:59 VanessaE (looks at screenshot) 01:00 VanessaE 2d clouds? no fancy leaves? jeez 01:00 NekoGloop ... I try not to melt my computer 01:00 VanessaE fix your broke-ass video card ;D 01:00 NekoGloop just tell me what you think about the fifth item in my inventory, a large stone shovel 01:01 VanessaE looks okay to me 01:01 NekoGloop ok 01:01 NekoGloop just looks funny to me 01:01 VanessaE kinda hard to make it look any larger given the limit of the game, but it seems good 01:01 NekoGloop (and yes I know the tip of the pickaxe in my hand is rendering incorrectly) 01:02 NekoGloop VanessaE: *cough*wield_scale={x=1.5,y=1.5,z=0}*cough* 01:02 VanessaE NekoGloop: I meant in the inventory :-) 01:02 NekoGloop oh well then idk 01:03 NekoGloop at least you can tell the 3 swords apart in 6, 7, and 8 spaces 01:03 NekoGloop normal, medium, and large respectively. 01:03 VanessaE I see someone has calinou's stairs-plus :-) 01:04 NekoGloop well those arent actually brick wall stairs 01:04 VanessaE oh :) 01:04 NekoGloop those are actually cobble floor stairs but I do have the mod 01:04 NekoGloop atlas is still glitching 01:04 VanessaE disable the atlas then :-) 01:04 NekoGloop I did 01:06 NekoGloop idk 01:06 NekoGloop that workbench is actually 5x5 as well 01:08 NekoGloop VanessaE: how are mesecons coming btw? 01:08 VanessaE getting good now :-) 01:08 VanessaE seen the new website, screenshots? 01:08 NekoGloop nope 01:08 NekoGloop please link 01:08 NekoGloop i didnt click when jeija linked it 01:08 VanessaE http://mesecons.ohost.de/ 01:09 VanessaE note it has an annoying popup. 01:09 VanessaE browse through the menu bar on top 01:09 VanessaE hey NF. 01:09 NekoGloop why in hell did I get a jewelry ad 01:09 VanessaE NekoGloop: because the host is cheapass :-) 01:09 VanessaE just close the ad 01:10 NekoGloop I did 01:10 NekoGloop some of those screenshots... just... wow. 01:10 VanessaE thanks :-) 01:11 NekoGloop I guess combination locks are impossibly easy with microcontrollers 01:11 VanessaE I see some new ones have been added 01:11 NakedFury a good point in favor of mesecons over redstone is that you dont have limits to how long a redstone line is 01:11 VanessaE exactly 01:11 NekoGloop not to mention microcontrollers 01:12 VanessaE that 8-bit full adder (with 9-bit output) uses microcontrollers to do the work, and no stupid stuff like repeaters :-) 01:12 VanessaE (bottom row, first and second images) 01:12 NekoGloop I made a music loop that changes part of its song every other repeat. 01:13 NekoGloop oh cool, someone made a circuit that makes lights turn on only at night. 01:14 NekoGloop oh neat someone made a player detector piston door. Like I already did. 01:15 NakedFury I was talking about wires but yeah small stuff that remove the unnecesary repetion of stuff works too 01:15 NakedFury in minecraft its something like 8 or 9 before you need a torch 01:15 VanessaE NekoGloop: I made it. for the sake of a screenshot :-) 01:16 NekoGloop I want those hi-res previews in the "items" tab to become a texture pack :D 01:16 VanessaE NekoGloop: they are :-) 01:16 VanessaE the textures in the current mod were directly derived from them 01:16 NekoGloop O.O 01:16 * VanessaE did that :-) 01:16 * NekoGloop WAAAAAAANT 01:16 NekoGloop actually no 01:16 VanessaE the mod uses a 16px version of the textures shown on the items page 01:17 NekoGloop minetest takes long enough to load as is 01:17 VanessaE else, get my photorealistic texture pack - it uses those images but even bigger :-) 01:17 NekoGloop I would get your texture pack if minetest would load in this century with it installed. 01:18 VanessaE on my box, minetest takes 30-60 seconds to load (depending on how many mods I have installed) 01:18 VanessaE with the 512px pack 01:18 NekoGloop P.S. the website's image should be a microcontroller, not the wire. Wire is big and ugly. 01:18 VanessaE so try the 64px size, it's fairly light 01:18 NekoGloop VanessaE: It already takes that long 01:18 NekoGloop course I have a sh*tload of mods 01:19 NekoGloop probably just technic + mesecons is half of that 01:19 VanessaE no 01:19 VanessaE it's the texture extrude routine 01:19 VanessaE it's a fucking dog. 01:19 NekoGloop lol 01:19 * NekoGloop hisses at the dog 01:19 VanessaE my install takes 2 or 3 seconds to start with 16px default textures. It inflated to 35+ seconds with the 512px textures. 01:20 NekoGloop lol 01:20 VanessaE and if I install my full set of usual mods - 66 seconds (!) 01:20 VanessaE and this box is no slouch. 01:20 NekoGloop you must be running on practically vanilla minetest compared to me. 01:21 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~$ ls -m Minetest-Textures-and-mods/mods/my-standard-set/ 01:21 VanessaE animatedtorches, blox, bobblocks, coloredwood, cotton, doorsplus, drippingwater, 01:21 VanessaE flowers, homedecor, junglegrass, locked_sign, maptools, minetest-mod-mesecons, 01:21 VanessaE moreblocks, moreores, particles, pipeworks, poisonivy, signs, template, timber, 01:21 VanessaE unifiedbricks, unifieddyes, vessels, workbench, worldedit 01:21 NekoGloop what's what you run normally? 01:21 VanessaE I copy that whole tree over when I need to populate the mods folder. 01:22 VanessaE yup, that's what I run normally, that set takes ~66 seconds to start up 01:22 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~$ ls -m .minetest/mods/minetest/ 01:22 VanessaE blox, bobblocks, cotton, doorsplus, drippingwater, flowers, homedecor, 01:22 VanessaE junglegrass, locked_sign, maptools, minetest-mod-mesecons, moreblocks, moreores, 01:22 VanessaE neighbour, particles, pipeworks, poisonivy, signs, timber, unifieddyes, vessels, 01:22 VanessaE worldedit 01:22 VanessaE this set takes ~35 seconds. 01:22 NekoGloop ok, i dont usually use particles 01:22 NekoGloop why do you need locked_sign for singleplayer or is this a server? 01:22 VanessaE for testing. 01:23 NekoGloop Unifiedbricks is a freakin processor hog 01:23 NekoGloop as is blox 01:23 VanessaE when I add support to my texture pack for a mod, I install that mod to see how to use it, as well, and I leave it there if it doesn't take up much CPU or load time 01:23 VanessaE oh yeah 01:23 VanessaE like I said, c55's extrude routine is brain dead. 01:23 NekoGloop uhmm... 01:23 NekoGloop you have maptools AND worldedit? 01:24 VanessaE yep 01:24 NekoGloop arent those two the same thing in effect? 01:24 VanessaE not really 01:24 NekoGloop ooh, drippingwater 01:24 NekoGloop you wanna get rid of that 01:24 VanessaE maptools for testing again, worldedit because I find it useful :-) 01:24 NakedFury world edit got a huge rewrite by temperest or something 01:24 NekoGloop remove drippingwater and particles, you'll get increased loading again. 01:25 NekoGloop I'd wager at leat 20 seconds tops 01:25 VanessaE how do you figure? 01:26 NekoGloop well they're animation 01:26 NekoGloop animation = lots of graphic data being called 01:26 * VanessaE tries it. 01:26 NekoGloop and if you dont get faster loading you get faster running of the game. 01:27 VanessaE 38 seconds 01:27 VanessaE no appreciable difference. 01:27 NekoGloop ok 01:27 NekoGloop is the game running faster afterwards? 01:28 * NekoGloop sees timber mod 01:28 * NekoGloop smacks vanessae on the back of her head 01:28 NekoGloop CHEATER 01:28 VanessaE nope, no effect on speed. 01:29 NekoGloop -really-? 01:29 VanessaE those mods use the game's ability to move objects to do their animations 01:29 VanessaE they don't use animated textures. 01:29 NekoGloop removing animatedfluids and animatedtorches for me was a big help 01:29 NekoGloop dammit ninja'd 01:29 VanessaE those DO use animated textures. 01:29 VanessaE but particles/dripping water do not. 01:30 NakedFury but they are so awesome 01:30 * NekoGloop still thinks that VanessaE is a cheater for using timber mod 01:30 NakedFury particles only affect when you mine or dig stuff 01:30 VanessaE again, it's for testing :-) 01:30 NekoGloop was* 01:30 * VanessaE restores her standard 66+ second configuration 01:30 NekoGloop now you are just cheating ;) 01:31 NakedFury well once a mod adds faster mining and woodcutting via special machinery, will that count as cheats? 01:31 NekoGloop no because you have to get the machinery 01:31 NekoGloop timber mod lets you knock a whole tree down with your bare hands 01:31 VanessaE besides, doesn't it seem odd that a tree can just "float" after you chop it in half? :-) 01:32 NekoGloop nope 01:32 NakedFury I use timber 01:32 NekoGloop VanessaE: Then what about flosting islands? 01:32 NakedFury just because minecraft has floating wood doesnt mean we have to have it like that 01:32 VanessaE I hate 'em. 01:32 NekoGloop NakedFury: CHEATER!!! 01:33 VanessaE granted I make use of a large floating stone slab in those screenshots, but that's because I wanted to be above the clouds 01:33 NekoGloop no timber mod is actually ripping off of minecraft as well 01:34 * NekoGloop is now adding gloopores textures 01:34 NakedFury I would sort of prefer for the tree wood to fall to the ground letting me cut it again instead of floating 01:35 NekoGloop NakedFury: Then make default:tree be in groups:{falling_node=1} 01:35 NekoGloop groups={falling_node=1}* 01:35 NakedFury or have wood and tree be part of falling group 01:35 NekoGloop no just tree 01:35 NakedFury yeah but then I would need some support block that could hold wood in place in a radius around it 01:35 NekoGloop i suppose that would call leafdecay prematurely though... 01:35 VanessaE someone was working on a minecraft mod to do that I think. surely the same is easily done in minetest. 01:36 NekoGloop NakedFury: You -do- know that wood and tree are two seperate nodes, right? 01:36 NakedFury yes 01:36 NekoGloop therefore tree can be falling and not wood 01:37 NakedFury I have always wanted to try or play in a more real world scenario. everything has a chance to fall unless it has support 01:37 NekoGloop that's not entirely impossible 01:38 NekoGloop would need to edit the falling_node script though 01:38 NakedFury no just requires some intense coding 01:38 NekoGloop No, just a little bit of an edit to falling_node 01:38 VanessaE NakedFury: celeron55 said, basically, no fucking way 01:38 NekoGloop VanessaE: lolwat 01:38 NakedFury yeah celeron55 says no to a lot of things 01:39 NekoGloop he'd probably object to me being here, with my luck 01:39 NakedFury he wouldnt approve of you 01:39 NakedFury you are below him 01:39 NekoGloop well I dont want his approval 01:39 NakedFury if you dont have anything to contribute of good value you dont exist 01:39 NekoGloop of course I dont 01:40 leo_rockway I'd like for timber mod to only be enabled with a chainsaw tool 01:40 VanessaE a block should need something under it, or need something to X/Z sides to keep it held up, and anything more than say 10 blocks from a vertical support should collapse. 01:40 NakedFury ^^ 01:40 NakedFury would forever change houses or mines 01:40 NakedFury or caves 01:40 VanessaE leo_rockway: on redcrab:30401 you need a mese axe 01:40 VanessaE (not a pick, but an axe) 01:40 NakedFury would make minetest stand more a part from its grandfather(minecraft) 01:41 leo_rockway VanessaE: sounds good to me 01:41 NekoGloop its grandfather is infiminer 01:41 NekoGloop ;) 01:41 NekoGloop (or however you spell it) 01:41 NakedFury both 01:41 leo_rockway what's the other MC-like free implementation? 01:41 leo_rockway it looks very pretty... 01:41 NakedFury infiniminer in its mothers side 01:42 leo_rockway I wanted to try it 01:42 NekoGloop NakedFury: but infiniminer gave way to minecraft, and thus minetest. 01:43 NekoGloop and each generation got better ;) 01:43 NakedFury and legos 01:44 NekoGloop so lego -> infiniminer -> minecraft -> minetest 01:45 NekoGloop with each generation better than the last ;) 01:46 NekoGloop I HAZ GWEEN TWOOLZ 01:46 NekoGloop :D 01:47 NekoGloop 1 more material to texture!!!!! 01:48 RealBadAngel there is one nice, in development, however not free 01:48 RealBadAngel http://blockscape.com/ 01:48 RealBadAngel hi all 01:48 NekoGloop Damn, large arol tools are gonna last FOREVER 01:48 NekoGloop :D 01:49 NekoGloop good thing arol only generates at the same level as mese (if memory serves) 01:50 NekoGloop oh no, only below -20 01:50 NekoGloop ok then 01:50 NekoGloop keeping to the strucure I have inplace though 01:51 NekoGloop if I remember correctly I made the actual generation of them at a low percentage of spawning though 01:52 NakedFury I have seen blockscape and I like it even if its a little slow in development 01:56 NekoGloop FINALLY 01:56 NekoGloop IM DONE WITH THE FERAKIN TEXTURES 01:56 NekoGloop now to actually code something 01:57 NekoGloop or "code" something (which means open up calculator and do a lot of math) 01:57 mrtux how often is celeron55 on this channel 01:57 NekoGloop very rarely to never 01:57 mrtux ah 01:57 NekoGloop try #minetest-dev 01:58 cornernote_ i been here a few months, never seen him here once 01:58 NekoGloop well I dont think he mingles with the asinine people in here 01:58 VanessaE he doesn't come here anymore 01:59 VanessaE too much activity, too many "distractions" 01:59 NekoGloop too much crap 01:59 VanessaE no 02:00 NekoGloop yes 02:00 VanessaE he's easily distracted apparently. 02:00 NekoGloop as am I 02:00 VanessaE enough so that he limits himself only to -dev now 02:00 NekoGloop Well if I were to be mentally capable to code something like minetest I would too :P 02:00 VanessaE and even then, strictly limits the topic of convo in that channel and will enforce it 02:01 NekoGloop well it's his channel 02:01 NekoGloop let him ban who he want 02:01 VanessaE I know. 02:05 keegan hello 02:05 VanessaE hikeegan 02:06 keegan is there a way not to make a server lag with more than 5 people? 02:07 NekoGloop get a better computer 02:07 keegan get a better brain 02:08 VanessaE keegan: changing some of the server's settings can help, but most of it is in the server engine - c55 says he's going to try to fix that soon because it's a major CPU hog. 02:08 VanessaE (which in turn is why it lags, I'm sure) 02:09 VanessaE also, disable the anti-cheat setting, that'll help the apparent lag. 02:09 keegan where is that at? do you other settings? 02:10 VanessaE it's something you have to tweak in your minetest.conf 02:10 keegan like wat? 02:10 VanessaE I don't know off the top of my head, look in minetest.conf.example 02:10 VanessaE all the settings you can plug into mintest.conf are in there. 02:11 VanessaE I'm pretty sure I saw a setting to disable anti-cheat. 02:11 keegan like wats some good ones? 02:11 VanessaE dunno, just play around with them, see what helps and what doesn't :-) 02:13 keegan whatbout this #full_block_send_enable_min_time_from_building = 2.0#dedicated_server_step = 0.05 02:13 VanessaE probably don't change the server step 02:13 VanessaE but the other I don't know about 02:13 keegan will it help? 02:14 VanessaE I don't know 02:14 sdzen ive changed the server step before it doesnt do much 02:14 sdzen a little boost but not much 02:14 keegan your the smart one 02:14 NekoGloop and I'm the baka! 02:14 keegan so sdzen how do you get your server lagg less 02:14 NekoGloop (baka = stupid/idiot in japanese) 02:15 * VanessaE <--- an ace with textures, decent with modding, stupid regarding server setup :-) 02:15 sdzen hehe :P 02:15 sdzen ive altered every setting in the conf 02:15 sdzen and some not in it 02:15 VanessaE is that like using "every trick in the book" (and some not)? :-) 02:16 sdzen mostly heightening the length of any client send 02:16 sdzen and shortening distances 02:16 keegan sdzen how to make ur server faster and not laggy 02:16 sdzen dont have many mods 02:16 VanessaE keegan: seriosuly, the problem is in the program - changing your settings arne't going to help that much 02:16 NekoGloop he used all the tricks in the book, and then some ;) 02:16 VanessaE the only real solution until c55 fixes the CPU usage is better hardware :( 02:17 sdzen mine is a example of how the server is uber lagged by a stupidly ridiculous amount of mods 02:17 NekoGloop no yours is just awesomesauce 02:17 NekoGloop :D 02:17 keegan only have 20 mos 02:17 keegan mods 02:17 VanessaE I have 26 mods in my local install, ~3000 defined nodes among them all :-) 02:17 NekoGloop and try to limit it to 5 abms 02:17 keegan abms? 02:18 VanessaE Automatic Block Modifier 02:18 NekoGloop VanessaE: 1) Creative mode 2) ... 3) Profit 02:18 VanessaE it's what mods do to make periodic changes to some blocks, like spawning flowers or junglegrass 02:18 keegan uhh yea how doi do that 02:19 VanessaE you have to learn the modding language and API to make use of them. 02:19 VanessaE take a look at my flowers mod (or ironzorg's old one) 02:19 VanessaE it has a pretty routine usage of abms 02:19 NekoGloop and since lua_api.txt is worth sh*t atm you cant really learn the API easily 02:19 VanessaE should be easy to understand 02:20 keegan wat about madchicken texture pack? 02:20 NekoGloop dont use it 02:20 keegan y 02:20 sdzen it give no marked increase in preformance 02:20 NekoGloop madchicken == griefer on servers... you think he cares enough to virusscan uploaded files? 02:21 NekoGloop (i dont virusscan either just because I am certain I have no viruses) 02:21 sdzen viruses dont attack me 02:21 sdzen im not sure i dont have any though 02:21 NekoGloop lol 02:21 keegan anything in the world flodderi have to change? 02:22 NekoGloop I'm sure because all of the harddrive I have is accounted for. 02:22 bulletrulz hello 02:22 NekoGloop (the usage of the harddrive) 02:22 sdzen ello 02:22 bulletrulz can someone upload a minetest deb for me lol 02:22 bulletrulz i swithced to ubuntu 02:22 VanessaE bulletrulz: just built it from sources. 02:23 VanessaE under ubuntu it's quick and painless 02:23 VanessaE build* 02:23 bulletrulz while VanessaE its easier to just .deb it 02:24 VanessaE keegan: changes in texture packs will only affect the clients' performance, not the server's 02:24 bulletrulz but ok VanessaE do u mind uploading the source for me? 02:24 VanessaE bulletrulz: because everyone's system is a little difference, and because unless you get the nightly builds PPA, whatever you get will probably be slightly outdated. 02:24 VanessaE the source is on github,. 02:25 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L81 02:25 bulletrulz VanessaE cause i have a tether thing that wont let me go on https sites im bulletrul 02:25 VanessaE start here. 02:25 VanessaE oh that's right, I forgot about that. 02:25 keegan is a thing for servers in github 02:25 bulletrulz yeah 02:25 VanessaE how do you do online banking then? 02:25 sdzen maybe he doesnt bank online 02:25 sdzen XD 02:26 bulletrulz sdzen why does everybody say that lol im 13 02:26 bulletrulz i dont bank online xD 02:26 VanessaE that would be the reason :-) 02:26 NekoGloop lol 02:26 VanessaE bulletrulz: ok in that case, just go install the nightly builds repository 02:26 bulletrulz VanessaE HOW> 02:26 VanessaE open a terminal 02:27 bulletrulz im in one 02:27 VanessaE sudo apt-get remove minetest (or minetestc55, whatever it is you have now) 02:27 bulletrulz lol using bitch x 02:27 bulletrulz i dont have any minetest lol 02:27 VanessaE sudo apt-add-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds 02:27 VanessaE sudo apt-get update 02:27 VanessaE sudo apt-get install minetestc55 02:27 bulletrulz bitchx is a irc client 02:27 VanessaE I'ved used bitchx before. 02:28 bulletrulz yes 02:28 VanessaE used to be the one I relied on most. 02:28 VanessaE since switched to xchat. 02:28 VanessaE anyway, run those last three commands. 02:28 keegan is there anything in github for servers?? 02:29 VanessaE that'll get you the very latest minetest built from whatever's at the top of git master on a given day. 02:29 bulletrulz well i did it and pressed enter but its not doing anything> 02:29 NekoGloop YES NOW SHUT UP AND LOOK FOR IT 02:29 VanessaE keegan: I don't understand the question. 02:29 VanessaE bulletrulz: which command did you run? 02:29 keegan like solutions 02:29 bulletrulz althe respitory 02:29 VanessaE bulletrulz: it should have given you some output describing the repository and asking if you really want to ad dit 02:30 keegan for like solution for lags 02:30 VanessaE keegan: your best bet is to search the forums, I'm sure others there have solved some of the issue. 02:30 bulletrulz VanessaE it doesent can u just gice me the .deb 02:30 NakedFury keegan that will keep happening unless you have a really good computer or really really fast connection(Not sure about this one) 02:30 VanessaE keegan: but as I told you, the problem is in the game. 02:31 NakedFury and that 02:31 VanessaE bulletrulz: try again. this is how you get a deb for your system,. 02:31 cornernote_ minetest.item_place_node(itemstack, placer, pointed_thing) <<--- what is pointed thing? a node/pos/other ?? 02:31 NakedFury the game is still in a sort of beta state or even alpha 02:31 keegan people say my internet is the best 02:31 bulletrulz VanessaE lol but its eaiser on the thing 02:31 VanessaE cornernote_: I think the coordinates. 02:31 VanessaE bulletrulz: just do it :-) 02:31 bulletrulz l :D 02:32 VanessaE sudo apt-add-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds 02:32 bulletrulz i have 11.04 02:32 VanessaE you should see some gibberish about gpg keys 02:32 bulletrulz VanessaE nope 02:33 VanessaE what exactly did it do? 02:33 cornernote_ why are all the global callbacks being depricated ? 02:33 bulletrulz is just blinking doing nothing 02:33 cornernote_ minetest.register_on_placenode(func(pos, newnode, placer, oldnode)) <--- Deprecated: Use on_construct or after_place_node in node definition instead 02:33 VanessaE bulletrulz: what do you mean "it's just blinking"? 02:33 cornernote_ but on_construct for a node is a VERY different thing to a global after_place_node 02:33 keegan is 54mb/s good????? 02:33 VanessaE cornernote_: change for the sake of change it sometimes seems. 02:34 keegan for internet 02:34 bulletrulz VanessaE ita nor doing anything 02:34 VanessaE keegan: that's your wireless speed. 02:34 keegan yea 02:34 VanessaE keegan: but I can almost guarantee you that your internet connection isn't that fast in reality 02:34 bulletrulz cornernote_ can u give me the link to the source agian 02:34 VanessaE more likely it's less than 10 Mbps 02:35 keegan will wired help? 02:35 NakedFury https://github.com/celeron55/minetest 02:35 VanessaE keegan: unlikely. your internet speed is limited to whatever your ISP allows. 02:35 VanessaE keegan: that is, whatever your parents pay for 02:35 cornernote_ bulletrulz - http://cornernote.net/minetest 02:35 bulletrulz no cornernote_ can u upload it agian 02:35 keegan alot money 02:35 bulletrulz ty cornernote_ 02:36 VanessaE keegan: it is not liekly very fast, most people don't do for the high-end, super-fast internet. 02:36 VanessaE bulletrulz: if you were using an AMD64 box I could upload my build, otherwise you'll have to hit the sources. 02:37 bulletrulz i use i386 02:37 keegan we try to get better connection but it says 54mb/s but theres lile 20 other things thats on it also 02:37 NekoGloop hOLY SHIT 02:37 NekoGloop chair just fell D: 02:37 keegan way 02:37 keegan t 02:37 keegan wat 02:37 bulletrulz NekoGloop ? 02:37 VanessaE keegan: that's wireless speed. you will not get above 54 Mbps, period. 02:38 bulletrulz lol 02:38 NekoGloop the chair i was sitting on 02:38 VanessaE that's simply how fast wireless is. 02:38 NekoGloop I think the noise it made scared me more than the falling itself did 02:38 bulletrulz NekoGloop lolz 02:38 keegan will wired connection help?? 02:39 VanessaE keegan: I already said no, it won't. 02:39 NekoGloop u kidding me? 02:39 VanessaE keegan: you have to talk to your parents to get faster internet. that's the only way you'll get more speed out of that part of your system, 02:39 NekoGloop my psp gets more than that. 02:40 keegan you sure i think when i plug in wired connection it goes upto 100mb/s 02:40 VanessaE keegan: Once you get a faster internet feed, then wired vs. wireless starts to be an issue 02:40 VanessaE but that's only the speed between your laptop and your router. That is NOT your internet speed. 02:41 sdzen what does /ignore do? 02:41 VanessaE keegan: let me give you a practical example: 02:41 keegan ok 02:41 sdzen does it do anything? 02:41 VanessaE keegan: my husband's computer is connected to mine through a wired connection. It has a speed of 1 Gbps (1000 Mbps, 10 times the speed of your wired connection). However, our internet speed is only 12 Mbps. 02:42 VanessaE keegan: so no matter how fast my husband's computer can send and receive, the best he'll ever get is the 12 Mbps that we pay for. Same for my computer. 02:42 keegan werid 02:42 VanessaE keegan: nope, not weird at all. that's how networking is. 02:43 VanessaE this is normal. 02:43 cy1 back 02:43 bulletrulz how to install it 02:44 NekoGloop LOOK BEHIND YOU!!! 02:44 NekoGloop IT'S SLENDERMAN!!! 02:44 keegan you push install 02:44 bulletrulz minetest lol 02:44 VanessaE bulletrulz: is it source or .deb ? 02:44 keegan you put it somewhere and it extracts itself 02:44 bulletrulz VanessaE source 02:45 VanessaE keegan: doesn't work that way on linux. 02:45 keegan does for me 02:45 VanessaE bulletrulz: extract the archive, then read the README starting at line 81 02:45 keegan why do u read readme 02:45 VanessaE keegan: most linux users use the command line to manage their system 02:46 keegan i dont 02:46 VanessaE keegan: because he is about to compile minetest from the source code. What he has is not a program execuatable. 02:46 VanessaE executable* 02:47 keegan wat does compling do?? 02:47 VanessaE keegan: that's how programs are created. 02:47 keegan so?? 02:47 VanessaE keegan: you write your code in a text editor, then put what you wrote into a compiler 02:47 VanessaE keegan: the result is an executable program 02:47 bulletrulz it says i have to install cmake 02:47 keegan ok s 02:48 VanessaE bulletrulz: README, line 71. there's an apt-get install command there. 02:48 VanessaE bulletrulz: use that to get all the dependencies installed. 02:48 keegan so wat does it even do?? 02:48 VanessaE keegan: what does what do? 02:48 keegan compling 02:48 VanessaE keegan: that's how you turn the code you wrote into an executable program. 02:48 bulletrulz but when i try sudo apt-get install cmake 02:48 bulletrulz ik it doesent install 02:48 VanessaE the code you write in a text editor cannot run by itself 02:49 NekoGloop makes an .exe or .app or whatever linux executables are. 02:49 VanessaE bulletrulz: README, line 71. there's an apt-get install command there. 02:49 VanessaE bulletrulz: use that to get all the dependencies installed. 02:49 keegan does it make a differentence ? 02:49 VanessaE keegan: yes. without compiling, most programs cannot run. 02:49 bulletrulz Reading package lists... Done 02:49 bulletrulz Building dependency tree 02:49 bulletrulz Reading state information... Done 02:49 bulletrulz Package cmake is not available, but is referred to by another package. 02:49 bulletrulz This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or 02:49 bulletrulz is only available from another source 02:49 bulletrulz E: Package 'cmake' has no installation candidate 02:49 bulletrulz poo 02:49 keegan ahh thats why i can run 0.4.2 r1 02:50 VanessaE bulletrulz: maybeyou need to turn on some additional repositories e.g. universe, multiverse, partners, etc. 02:50 leo_rockway apt-cache search cmake 02:50 VanessaE keegan: basically yeah 02:50 bulletrulz then i need a deb lol 02:50 VanessaE bulletrulz: without the dependencies, the game won't run 02:50 bulletrulz someone can u upload a deb to mediafire for me 02:50 leo_rockway also, if you do enable other repos, you need to run sudo apt-get update 02:51 keegan can i do it on linux and transfer it to a windows?? 02:51 VanessaE bulletrulz: a deb is useless without all of the programs it depends on also. 02:51 VanessaE keegan: no. 02:51 keegan :( that sucks 02:51 VanessaE keegan: windows requires a completely different type of program code; minetest can be compiled to run on windows, but not without a LOT of headaches apparently., 02:51 cy1 thw? 02:51 NekoGloop g'night 02:51 cy1 bulletrulz: cmake should absolutely be there. Have you updated recently apt-get update? 02:52 bulletrulz VanessaE i have the dependicies can someone upload it for me 02:52 leo_rockway VanessaE: it seems that without sound it's not too complicated. 02:52 NekoGloop GOOD NIGHT 02:52 keegan window is harf to do 02:52 VanessaE night NekoGloop 02:52 leo_rockway NekoGloop: \ø 02:52 keegan hard* 02:52 cy1 NekoGloop: GO BACK TO BED GARFIELD >:( 02:52 VanessaE bulletrulz: what version of ubuntu did you say this was? 02:53 sdzen me thinks 1.0 02:53 sdzen :P 02:53 bulletrulz VanessaE i use 11.04 02:53 keegan windows is pain in da butt to do 02:53 VanessaE bulletrulz: why 11.04? 12.04 has been out since April. 02:53 bulletrulz because i had it downloadded 02:54 leo_rockway is that natty? 02:54 VanessaE you should upgrade, but that aside, cmake should still be there anyway 02:54 VanessaE leo_rockway: it is. 02:54 leo_rockway http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/cmake <--- cmake is right there 02:54 leo_rockway I mean, you're doing something wrong 02:54 VanessaE wait 02:54 VanessaE I think I know 02:54 leo_rockway did you do apt-get update yet? 02:54 VanessaE that stupid ssl/https restriction 02:54 keegan Will you help me do window compling tommorrow 02:54 bulletrulz it will be easier if someone just uploaded a deb please 02:55 VanessaE I think you need ssl to fetch patckes 02:55 VanessaE packages 02:55 leo_rockway bulletrulz: that wouldn't work. You'll need the dependencies of cmake as well. 02:55 keegan who knows how to co 02:55 keegan complie on windows 02:55 cy1 Once you do "apt-get update", then just "apt-get install cmake" should work... 02:55 * bulletrulz i mean the deb of minetest please? 02:55 cy1 LOL the deb of minetest 02:55 cy1 cmake && make && make install 02:56 cy1 that's all 02:56 VanessaE no! 02:56 VanessaE don't make install 02:56 cy1 actually the make install part is 02:56 cy1 yeah 02:56 VanessaE checkinstall 02:56 cy1 just ./bin/minetest 02:56 bulletrulz FUCK THE WORLD 02:56 keegan that what i say to 02:56 cy1 you need cmake. Then you do cmake && make 02:56 VanessaE bulletrulz: who made this https restriction? 02:56 cy1 Then it's made. 02:56 * bulletrulz pulls out a ak and goes and kills people wathcing batman 02:56 bulletrulz VanessaE the guy who made the tether app 02:56 cy1 good thing I only watch my little pony 02:56 leo_rockway VanessaE: he's tethering 02:56 VanessaE cy1: cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 02:56 VanessaE or =1 02:57 leo_rockway he's browsing through a proxy 02:57 cy1 VanessaE: why don't the defaults work? >:( 02:57 VanessaE bulletrulz: why are you tethering instead of just going through a normal wired connection? 02:57 sdzen fim or a earlier one cy1? 02:57 VanessaE cy1: dunno, but that's what c55 says to do. 02:57 keegan good noght gonna complie windows minetrst tommorrow 02:57 cy1 sdzen: SHOOP BE DOOP 02:57 bulletrulz VanessaE i dont have one im tethering from my droid 02:57 VanessaE so get one? :-) 02:58 VanessaE you're 13 you said? 02:58 cy1 bulletrulz: RUN_IN_PLACE means if you want to run it from the build directory, or install it as root or somethin 02:58 bulletrulz yes 02:58 VanessaE who pays for the cell phone? 02:58 cy1 it's really not necessary 02:58 bulletrulz no 02:58 cy1 just cmake && make && make install 02:58 bulletrulz my parents do 02:58 cy1 ... 02:58 cy1 just cmake && make 02:58 keegan good night 02:58 bulletrulz i do chores 02:58 cy1 I keep forgetting make install is borked 02:58 VanessaE bulletrulz: they pay for a cell phone but not a regular internet connection? 02:58 cy1 VanessaE: it's more likely than you think... 02:58 VanessaE cy1: No! don't make install. 02:58 leo_rockway why not make install? 02:59 cy1 I dunno! 02:59 bulletrulz i have a girl friend and friends i need phone 02:59 bulletrulz a 02:59 leo_rockway I use the AUR PKGBUILD 02:59 cy1 I think it like... just doesn't work or something. 02:59 VanessaE cy1: when did they change the rules? it always used to be that you should not tether 02:59 cy1 aur <3 02:59 keegan bye gtg to bed 02:59 leo_rockway keegan: \ø 02:59 * bulletrulz jumps of a clif 02:59 cy1 VanessaE: tether? wtf are you talkin about 02:59 VanessaE leo_rockway: because if you make install you can't just apt-get remove or similar 02:59 cy1 well yeah 02:59 leo_rockway oh, I see 02:59 cy1 you use rm 02:59 VanessaE cy1: bulletrulz uses a cellphone tethered to his computer 02:59 cy1 rm /usr/local/bin/minetest* 02:59 leo_rockway some Makefiles offer make uninstall 03:00 cy1 a...cellphone...tethered... 03:00 bulletrulz ahhhh can someone please upload a deb for me please? 03:00 vicscandl cd minetest;git pull;cd games/minetest_game;git pull;cd ../..;cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1;make -j2 03:00 * cy1 falls over twitching 03:00 VanessaE cy1: and /usr/local/share {various bits} 03:00 * sdzen pokes cy1 with a stick 03:00 sdzen hes dead jim 03:00 leo_rockway bulletrulz: I'm not on a Debian based distro... 03:00 leo_rockway and I'm not going to install dpkg now o.0 03:00 VanessaE I can't because I run AMD64 03:00 * bulletrulz jumps off a cliff and land on a spiky thing 03:00 * vicscandl cracks open a beer he has not had before... 03:00 VanessaE (and what I built will likely not work on your box) 03:01 cy1 bulletrulz: there is no deb. There's a build script for Arch, but not for Debian or Ubuntu. Most people just build the source. Using cmake && make 03:01 cy1 VanessaE: you could still make the deb-src :p but w/ev 03:01 VanessaE bulletrulz: you NEED to fix the https restriction or your ubuntu install will fail you 03:01 VanessaE cy1: how? he can't seem to apt-get install from a repos either. 03:01 VanessaE no ssl 03:01 leo_rockway why do the repos need ssl? 03:02 cy1 WHY you using literal phone based Internets it is NOT 1978 ANYMORE! ;_; 03:02 VanessaE leo_rockway: it's just a guess, but you know how security-conscious linux distros are anymore 03:02 leo_rockway mhm 03:02 vicscandl cy1: because his mom turned off his cable modem due to too much pr0n watching.... 03:02 VanessaE hahahaha!\ 03:02 cy1 VanessaE: actually most apt repositories are just http... they do the package signing using gpg AS IT SHOULD BE 03:02 sdzen 1978? i thought it was 1940! 03:03 leo_rockway to systemd or not to systemd, that is the daily drama. 03:03 vicscandl cy1: github uses https, for security 03:03 sdzen where am I? 03:03 VanessaE cy1: well there must be SOME ssl connection in there somewhere 03:03 bulletrulz vicscandl i dont watch porn all the time lol jk i dont but cmake wont install on 11.04 03:03 cy1 vicscandl: ur mom turned off his cable modem due to too much pr0n watching! 03:04 bulletrulz lol 03:04 cy1 cmake is needed, since minetest uses cmake not "autotools" also known as "Satan's favorite configure system." 03:04 vicscandl bulletrulz: cmake won't install on 11.04; no, you failed to install and setup your dev toolchain properly 03:04 cy1 vicscandl: toolchain? How do you do that? 03:04 vicscandl my 9 year old can compile minetest, whats your issue? 03:04 vicscandl he was able to follow the readme and do just fine 03:04 cy1 thought apt-get install cmake would install dependencies... even if they're a toolchain... 03:05 VanessaE bulletrulz: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ 03:05 cy1 vicscandl: It's because he has such an amazing parent. It enables him to be unnaturally gifted at age 9. 03:05 bulletrulz vicscandl i cant get cmake 03:05 VanessaE bulletrulz: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ 03:05 VanessaE bulletrulz: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ 03:05 VanessaE bulletrulz: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ 03:05 VanessaE bulletrulz: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ 03:06 VanessaE THERE. READ! 03:06 bulletrulz VanessaE ok 03:06 sdzen you spelled it wrong its RAED! 03:06 sdzen dont you know your ABS's? 03:06 VanessaE sorry to sound nasty but it royally pisses me off when someone asks for help and then fails to read thoroughly that which they are told. 03:07 VanessaE sdzen: I don't know my ABS's because I'm used to old cars that lack ABS :D 03:07 sdzen I see 03:07 * VanessaE <-- consummate smartass :D 03:08 bulletrulz http://pastebin.com/ff7WqMtK 03:08 bulletrulz VanessaE ^ 03:08 VanessaE reading... 03:08 * sdzen <-- communist smartass 03:08 VanessaE no backports or partners, but that sources.list should work 03:09 VanessaE bulletrulz: sudo apt-get update 03:09 bulletrulz ok 03:09 VanessaE does any of ^^ that error out? 03:09 VanessaE wait 03:09 bulletrulz well i just installed so lol i should do that 03:09 VanessaE why do you have repos from lucid in there? 03:10 VanessaE (lines 59, 60) 03:10 leo_rockway that's were manually added 03:10 leo_rockway (PPA) 03:10 vicscandl VanessaE: /win 5 03:10 vicscandl hahahah 03:10 vicscandl that was lame 03:10 VanessaE leo_rockway: sure I get that--but he runs natty 03:10 leo_rockway those were* 03:10 leo_rockway yes, I know 03:11 cy1 yes apt-get update should be done every month or so 03:11 VanessaE lucid is two versions behind, he shouldn't be using repos that far from current 03:11 cy1 then apt-get dist-upgrade 03:11 leo_rockway I'm pointing out that he added them himself... he accidentally the whole sources.list 03:11 cy1 or use that Ubuntu graphical package manager thingy 03:11 * vicscandl moves VanessaE over to window 32 03:12 leo_rockway also, I don't know why he needs a PPA for globalmenu, since globalmenu is in by default in Unity... 03:12 leo_rockway at least that's what I think 03:12 VanessaE leo_rockway: natty predates unity :-) 03:12 leo_rockway oh, okay 03:12 leo_rockway Oneiric? 03:12 * VanessaE uses Precise 03:12 VanessaE but yeah I think it came up in Oneric. 03:12 leo_rockway I use Arch testing... bleeding edge 03:12 VanessaE Oneiric 03:13 VanessaE inb4 harshlinux comments 03:13 leo_rockway I've been reading about the systemd drama most of the day 03:13 vicscandl my advise to all: run a bootable thumbstick that has a properly updated gcc/gcc++ toolset 03:14 VanessaE bulletrulz: at any rate, your system is broken and we can't fix it over this venue. 03:14 VanessaE bulletrulz: go download a copy of 12.04 "Precise" 03:15 VanessaE burn it to a CD or DVD, wipe out your existing install, put that in instead 03:15 VanessaE natty is old and unsupported anyway 03:15 vicscandl VanessaE: thank you v, this is for minetest; not your INABILITY to install linux.... 03:15 VanessaE heh 03:15 vicscandl go join #linuxkernel-dev... ask there... hahahah 03:16 leo_rockway I'd rather fight Mike Tyson while I'm wearing handcuffs. 03:17 vicscandl i'm waiting to get bashed in #minetest-dev... if c55 would ever show up so i can pick on him 03:22 vicscandl beer selection for this evening: http://imgur.com/9QAM6 03:23 VanessaE heh 03:23 VanessaE beer, ick 03:23 VanessaE gimme the hard stuff instead :-) 03:24 vicscandl i'm off the hard stuff; having no more than 48oz of beer a day. 03:24 VanessaE I only drink twice a year anyway :-) 03:25 * mrtux is away: going to bed 03:25 vicscandl ok v, i've got two tickets to close for work and then i've got a couple more tests for you... 03:26 VanessaE oh boy.. 03:26 VanessaE :) 03:27 * VanessaE watches over vicscandl's shoulder... "[wontfix]"..... "[notabug]"..... 03:27 VanessaE ;) 03:27 vicscandl not sure if they are removing cycles, but i'm looking at some def improvement again to memory handling 03:27 VanessaE oh good 03:27 bulletrulz k i can get cmake now 03:27 vicscandl perhaps 3 more line changes today will warrant another 5-10% 03:27 leo_rockway [cantreplicate] 03:28 VanessaE or wait, c55's favorite, 03:28 VanessaE "[low-priority-enhancement]" 03:28 vicscandl my fixes are not related to anything in general... more like making sure the c++ is coded correctly 03:28 VanessaE ^^ memory usage bug I filed a while back. 03:28 vicscandl VanessaE: what sucks... well.. i'll keep my mouth shut for now... heheheh 03:29 VanessaE come on, spit it out :-) 03:29 NakedFury go viscandl go! 03:29 VanessaE there, half the channel just split off, now it's safe ! :-0 03:29 VanessaE :-) 03:29 vicscandl i'll say this.. learn to use the "blame" button on github 03:29 leo_rockway oh, I have parts and joins hidden... netsplit! 03:31 leo_rockway wow... PilzAdam really took this weed thing seriously 03:31 leo_rockway they are everywhere 03:33 * vicscandl smokes some medicine and gets to closing real work tickets so he can play... 03:33 bulletrulz got the same erorr agian 03:36 bulletrulz can someone tell me the dependicies what r they 03:36 leo_rockway they are in the readme 03:36 NakedFury doesnt Ubuntu market something place have a minetest to download? 03:36 leo_rockway NakedFury: not git. 03:36 bulletrulz nvm 03:37 VanessaE bullet, install the nightly builds repo. 03:37 VanessaE the PPA I told you about 03:37 VanessaE if that doesn't work, your internet connection is blocking you 03:37 VanessaE in which case you SOL 03:37 leo_rockway oh, I didn't know there was a PPA 03:37 bulletrulz VanessaE lol i aready got the source 03:37 vicscandl VanessaE: i wonder if he is running linux in vmware on windows.... 03:38 vicscandl VanessaE: *and* tethered to the internets via cell 03:44 NakedFury wish celeron55 informed his loyal fan base of hiatuses and vacations 03:45 leo_rockway maybe if his loyal fan base paid his vacations... 03:45 NakedFury just a simple Forum post saying Vacation: taking a break for ## time or whatever 03:45 NakedFury just so we know he didnt give up 03:46 leo_rockway there was an update recently 03:46 leo_rockway August 13th 03:47 leo_rockway 4 days ago: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest 03:47 leo_rockway check the age 03:47 bulletrulz k its making 03:48 NakedFury write down all the steps you had to make for that bulletman 03:48 vicscandl leo_rockway: there are updates constantly 03:48 leo_rockway mhm 03:48 vicscandl leo_rockway: just wait till i get in contact with c55 03:48 leo_rockway I git pull every day to check for changes 03:49 leo_rockway but NakedFury seemed concerned that there weren't updates 03:49 NakedFury yeah sorry didnt check that 03:49 NakedFury im more concerned that he never chats with us 03:49 NakedFury not even a HI 03:49 leo_rockway why are you concerned? 03:50 NakedFury well if I was a developer and actually had interested players I would chat with them 03:50 NakedFury not necessarily of game stuff 03:50 NakedFury but of trivial stuff too 03:50 leo_rockway maybe he doesn't care about us at all 03:50 leo_rockway and that's fine 03:50 khonkhortisan the 49 luaentity per block limit is hardcoded. I can't just add a variable to increase it. 03:50 NakedFury ohh anybody saw The Avengers? I thought it was great = example 03:51 leo_rockway maybe he's autistic and he's coding minetest for his own entertainment 03:51 khonkhortisan I just saw it 03:51 khonkhortisan it was good until the guy with the red head 03:51 leo_rockway and he thinks we're all just stupid o.0 03:51 NakedFury what is that 49 entity stuff about? 03:51 khonkhortisan there should have been more storyline. How did he learn how to bounce the shield? 03:52 NakedFury im lost khonk, what red head guy? 03:52 NakedFury im really lost here 03:52 khonkhortisan I'm making rain and it all disappears when I get more than 49 in a block when I use luaentities. 03:52 leo_rockway RAIN! 03:52 khonkhortisan oh I meant I saw captain america 03:52 NakedFury ohh 03:52 leo_rockway snow biome with snow falling would be neat 03:52 khonkhortisan rain is very difficult to do 03:53 NakedFury could rain be added as particles? 03:53 khonkhortisan either you're limited to a light drizzle using luaentities or it falls very jumpily with nodes 03:53 khonkhortisan particles ARE luaentities 03:53 NakedFury ohh 03:53 khonkhortisan I went with particles :) 03:53 NakedFury so there needs to be something else in place for weather effects 03:53 khonkhortisan there needs to be something that's not a node and not an entity 03:55 khonkhortisan now I can understand that there would be a limit to how many mobs you can have in a block, but why delete every last one of them when it goes over the limit instead of just deleting the overflow? 03:59 khonkhortisan I want to see thor and all the others before seeing the avengers 03:59 NakedFury all the movies building up to Avengers? 03:59 khonkhortisan yep. I saw the first avenger already. 03:59 NakedFury Iron Man 1, Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America 03:59 khonkhortisan captain america was first 04:00 NakedFury you can try the last Hulk 04:00 NakedFury then the new Spider Man 04:00 khonkhortisan oh yeah they have a new character now I forgot 04:00 leo_rockway brb 04:00 leo_rockway oops 04:00 leo_rockway well, I guess you guys wanted to know I'll brb o.o0 04:00 leo_rockway o.0* 04:01 khonkhortisan you meant to brb on the other channel? 04:01 leo_rockway my gf 04:01 NakedFury then maybe next year Iron Man 3, Thor 2, maybe Avenger 2 2014 with some other heroes 04:02 NakedFury then switch over to DC Comics as they make a new Superman, perhaps start a new trilogy of Batman with robin or nitghwing(or whatever other bat thingy) maybe try flash or something to build up for Justice League 04:03 cornernote_ im having a problem.. maybe someone has some ideas... i have a void world, when you join a home location is selected, and asingle node is created... the problem is that the node is created too late, i have already started falling 04:03 NakedFury try teleporting the player a few blocks above the node? could that help 04:03 khonkhortisan create the node a safe falling distance unde 04:04 khonkhortisan ...r 04:04 bulletrulz NakedFury dont we have iron man 3 04:04 khonkhortisan spiderman is up to four, right? 04:04 NakedFury not yet bullet, maybe next year 04:05 NakedFury yeah 4 spider mans but the new one is a restart of the series 04:05 NakedFury the character doesnt produce the web, its more like the comic character 04:05 khonkhortisan so they have to go through the hey this is cool I have spider powers thing again 04:06 bulletrulz khonkhortisan they restarted the seris 04:06 NakedFury its done fast and okay 04:06 NakedFury I like this version more than the other spiderman 1 movie 04:07 khonkhortisan how can you have spiderman if he's not tarzan? 04:07 NakedFury also they have a totally beautiful hot gwen instead of mary jane 04:08 * vicscandl implores you to go to #spiderman or something... 04:08 khonkhortisan I never know what will be a real channel and what won't 04:08 leo_rockway channels get generated when you join 04:08 leo_rockway o.o 04:08 vicscandl spiderman mod == cool; spiderman movie != cool; 04:09 NakedFury okay we will talk about minetest 04:09 khonkhortisan um I think you mean ~= cool 04:09 NakedFury so what would you think on a new name for minetest? 04:09 khonkhortisan minecreate 04:09 vicscandl khonkhortisan: no, i'm working on the c++, its != 04:09 khonkhortisan minebore 04:09 khonkhortisan mineyours 04:09 NakedFury OpenMine? LibreVoxelianMine? 04:09 vicscandl ok, i got it 04:10 leo_rockway infiniminetest 04:10 vicscandl voxeLand 04:10 leo_rockway boxen 04:10 khonkhortisan mineymine 04:10 khonkhortisan boxen is the correct plural form of box 04:10 NakedFury VoxMiner 04:10 khonkhortisan ox oxen box boxes | ox oxes box boxen 04:11 khonkhortisan MINtEract 04:12 khonkhortisan minerator 04:12 leo_rockway khonkhortisan: boxen is the plural of box when talking about a unix box. 04:12 khonkhortisan I haven't heard that before 04:12 leo_rockway unices, boxen... 04:12 khonkhortisan then when do you say oxes? 04:12 leo_rockway usually irregular plurals are a hacker thing, for some reason 04:12 leo_rockway like virus, virii 04:13 leo_rockway khonkhortisan: if an ox were part of the hacking ecosystem... 04:16 khonkhortisan anyone else is welcome to try to make rain 04:17 khonkhortisan haha cloud produces rain, evilcloud produces lava rain. That's an idea. Then you'll have to avoid raindrops 04:18 VanessaE that's nekogloop's department :-) 04:18 VanessaE ("evil" stuff) 04:18 vicscandl mmmmmmmmmmmmm lava rain... 04:18 vicscandl i like it, just be sure to make it configurable please 04:20 NakedFury major forest fires and lag 04:22 vicscandl NakedFury: working on that senior. :) 04:25 bulletrulz minetest WORKS! :d 04:25 bulletrulz D 04:25 bulletrulz ;d 04:25 bulletrulz :D 04:25 VanessaE woo! 04:25 VanessaE so how did you get it going? 04:27 bulletrulz VanessaE got cmake then got dependieces anyway anyway to make it faster fps is 10 04:27 VanessaE use a lower-resolution texture pack, or get a better video card :-/ 04:27 khonkhortisan press - 04:28 VanessaE also press - to turn your view distance down 04:28 VanessaE hah! 04:28 leo_rockway yes, press - until it goes down to 5 04:28 VanessaE but, 04:28 khonkhortisan I win 04:28 VanessaE you will need to restart the game after you do that 04:28 VanessaE otherwise it will ignore you (!) after a while 04:28 khonkhortisan I didn't know that 04:28 bulletrulz ty 04:28 leo_rockway I never had to 04:28 VanessaE it's stupid 04:29 VanessaE the "I want X fps" setting takes precedence over the view distance under some circumstances, particularly if you've already been wandering around with a higher distance and you turn it down 04:29 khonkhortisan haha pistons+stairs=elevator 04:29 vicscandl bulletrulz: what kind of hardware you run? 04:29 VanessaE khonkhortisan: screenshot? 04:29 khonkhortisan video 04:29 khonkhortisan not mt though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPryYxk0t9A&feature=relmfu 04:29 * vicscandl will eventually have to get a group of various arch/hardware testers 04:30 leo_rockway don't look at me, I offered to help and was rejected like a nerd asking a cheerleader out. 04:30 leo_rockway ='[ 04:31 khonkhortisan skip to 14:30 04:31 vicscandl leo_rockway: well... perhaps things can change... 04:33 * VanessaE watches 04:37 bulletrulz will a lower res texture work? 04:37 VanessaE bulletrulz: it might 04:37 VanessaE depends on your hardware, video driver, other stuff 04:38 VanessaE you ARE using the appropriate video driver for your machin eyes? 04:38 bulletrulz ill try 04:38 VanessaE s/machin eyes/machine yes/ 04:38 bulletrulz will lxde help too? 04:38 VanessaE dunno 04:38 leo_rockway s/n e/ne / 04:38 VanessaE maybe 04:38 VanessaE just try it 04:39 leo_rockway disable desktop effects if you have any o.o 04:40 khonkhortisan don't use kde, use fvwm or twm or just a flat display with qgamex xterm 04:43 bulletrulz whats the tester tool from 04:44 leo_rockway I use KDE \o/ 04:44 khonkhortisan from the default game in the minetest_game source 04:44 khonkhortisan I use kde but I don't notice how slow it is, fvwm doesn't do enough for me 04:44 khonkhortisan I mean minimal source 04:45 khonkhortisan tester tool means you're missing minetest_game 04:45 leo_rockway I like minimalism, but I love KDE... 04:45 leo_rockway it's weird 04:45 leo_rockway bulletrulz: you built the engine, not the game 04:45 VanessaE xfce FTW. :-) 04:45 leo_rockway you're missing the game now 04:45 bulletrulz ok 04:45 khonkhortisan just don't press the STOP button in the Activity Manager 04:46 khonkhortisan yeah I did xfce for a while, it was hard to migrate my keyboard settings away 04:47 khonkhortisan I couldn't get used to awesome 04:47 khonkhortisan better yet, stay out of the activity manager 04:48 leo_rockway I don't use activities 04:49 khonkhortisan don't. you kill every process if you do 04:49 leo_rockway I know how they work. I have no use for them. 04:52 bulletrulz i think i just fucked up messing around in compiz 04:53 khonkhortisan did it turn off? did you get pretty colors? 04:53 bulletrulz no i mean my whole pc 04:53 bulletrulz brb 04:55 * vicscandl shelves his c++ work and goes back to lua mods... 04:57 bulletrulz back fixed just by restart 05:02 * vicscandl recinds his request for playtesters... 05:15 vicscandl you should be coding; this should be your influence: http://www.chromanova.de/chromanova.-.psy.high.pls 05:19 * khonkhortisan finally found out how to move a strawberry bush 05:20 vicscandl last i checked, you use a razor for that guy 05:21 VanessaE *groan* 05:21 khonkhortisan thanks a lot, now I don't know how to craft a razor 05:21 VanessaE (besides, wouldn't it be "that girl" ?) 05:23 vicscandl s/t guy/t, guy/ 05:26 VanessaE hah! see what lack of a comma can cause? ;-) 05:33 vicscandl meepish 05:46 vicscandl ooooooo the mesecons master! 05:46 * vicscandl waves at Jeja 05:47 Jeija -.- calm down ^^ 05:47 vicscandl tis ok, i'm going back to modding now btw... 05:47 vicscandl sorry community 05:47 vicscandl {{ not because its hard }} 05:48 VanessaE hey jeija 05:48 Jeija hi VanessaE! 05:50 vicscandl ACK! github down for maint! 05:50 vicscandl https://status.github.com/ 05:50 VanessaE NO!!!!! 05:50 VanessaE :-) 05:50 vicscandl serious 05:50 VanessaE I know, I see it 05:51 vicscandl 4m is a long dt 05:56 khonkhortisan the pages still work and that's what matters 05:57 vicscandl guh, for you 05:57 vicscandl i use github to host private repos that update servers. this sucks man. 05:58 VanessaE my texture packs and mods are hosted there! :( 05:58 VanessaE (that's ~350MB of data, rough guess) 05:58 khonkhortisan I have a mod that half works I'm not out much 05:59 vicscandl VanessaE: rm -rf projects/minetest/memfix 05:59 vicscandl write an obit 05:59 vicscandl you have the only copy now.. enjoy 05:59 cornernote_ if my mod is called test, and i want to change the node definition for default:tree, how can i do that? .. a call to minetest.register_node("default:tree",{}) results in an error complaining the module name is wrong 05:59 VanessaE maybe I should make my own minetest distribution, call it photominer :-) 06:00 VanessaE cornernote_: make it :default:tree 06:00 VanessaE with a leading colon 06:00 cornernote_ thanks V 06:00 VanessaE but be aware there is at least one other mod (3dforniture) that overrides the tree code 06:00 vicscandl VanessaE: well, its nice that the client and server in your version run faster than the current git... 06:01 * VanessaE hoards it 06:01 * vicscandl is now being a fucking bitch. 06:01 vicscandl sorry, misnomer there.. by faster i mean, it uses less cpu cycles and memory. 06:01 vicscandl {{ not much, but some }} 06:01 VanessaE haha! "Page did not respond in a timely fashion." 06:02 VanessaE (with an angry-looking unicorn on the page) 06:02 vicscandl wtf? 06:02 vicscandl screenshot please! 06:02 vicscandl got it, nm... thats fukinng hawt 06:02 VanessaE http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-08162012-020234am.php 06:03 VanessaE yes, I read slashdot. :-) 06:03 vicscandl hahaha 06:03 vicscandl no shame there... 06:03 VanessaE no, that would be if I read digg. :-) 06:03 vicscandl which uk article you reading, ther were a few today 06:04 vicscandl nice purple btw 06:04 VanessaE the one about the UK police threatening to raid the Ecuador embassy to get Assange 06:04 VanessaE purple = xfce "keramik" theme recolored by hand with gimp and assembled into a working theme :-) 06:04 vicscandl ahhhhh 06:05 vicscandl 11:01 they claim shits on its way back 06:05 vicscandl not like millions of us are hitting their netblock to hell 06:05 VanessaE ha! 06:05 vicscandl so where the fuck is kahrl? 06:06 VanessaE he has not yet responded to my email. I don't expect him to, frankly :-/ 06:06 VanessaE brb, need f00d 06:06 vicscandl mmmmmmmmmm food 06:06 vicscandl one of these days VanessaE, i'm going to so order you a pizza... 06:06 vicscandl hahahhah 06:06 VanessaE LDA $F00D: STA $BABE 06:07 vicscandl mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 06:07 vicscandl and thats some funny shit 06:07 vicscandl woot! github is back online1 06:08 * vicscandl walks away from mt for a minute to restart his gitbotnet 06:10 cornernote_ im almost finished my mini game pack 06:10 vicscandl cornernote_: nice! 06:10 cornernote_ its a minimal skyblock world 06:10 cornernote_ you cant chop trees or stone with hand 06:10 cornernote_ you start on a block, nothing else in the world 06:11 * vicscandl thinks that he should even just become a player and sod off... 06:11 cornernote_ and you have some stuff, bucket of water, 5x wood, lava source, sapling, 27 dirt 06:11 cornernote_ you can make a cobble generator with lava+water 06:12 cornernote_ and cobble has a random chance to drop other things - dirt, sand, coal, iron, mese 06:12 cornernote_ comes with item_drop mod from PlizAdam 06:12 cornernote_ and it supports multiplayer... like this... 06:13 cornernote_ each player gets a new spawn point, 32 blocks from the last player 06:13 cornernote_ has global node ownership, so you cant steal or build on other peoples blocks 06:14 VanessaE there, back now with eggrolls in hand 06:14 cornernote_ and if you fall off the edge, you die and lose all your stuff (once you get to -100) 06:15 cornernote_ there are no other mods on it, the idea is to offer (yet another) alternative to minetest_game 06:15 cornernote_ the player/server admin can mod it up themselves 06:15 cornernote_ what do you think ? 06:16 cornernote_ i was gunna make some screens, but my world is kinda... empty ... need to play it a little first 06:16 cornernote_ maybe a video would be funner 06:16 VanessaE I dunno, I'm not a big fan of minimal worlds 06:16 RealBadAngel played skyblock on minecraft, its really cool and addictive 06:17 cornernote_ what do you think of this one i am doing RBA ? 06:17 VanessaE "Response times for github.com are still improving as we fix broken Unicorns." 06:17 VanessaE hahah 06:17 RealBadAngel gonna be cool 06:17 cornernote_ i am a bit stuck on 2 things 06:17 cornernote_ 1 - start positions... x+32 will mean the world is kind of a line 06:18 RealBadAngel have you included farming there too? 06:18 cornernote_ no, but i will make a modpack for it once i get the basics working 06:18 cornernote_ a collection of other peoples mods 06:18 RealBadAngel with farming you could get wool 06:18 VanessaE don't forget to put plenty of my stuff in there ;) 06:18 RealBadAngel some dyes 06:18 RealBadAngel etc 06:19 cornernote_ ahh, i get wool from cotton in my other world 06:19 cornernote_ i just hacked it in there 06:19 RealBadAngel look at pilzadam farming 06:19 leo_rockway what's the objective of skyblock? 06:19 cornernote_ to make a world starting with 1 block 06:19 cornernote_ and some stuff in your inventory 06:19 leo_rockway what's the definition of "a world"? 06:19 cornernote_ then you have to generate/grow everything else 06:20 cornernote_ a world = all the nodes in your world 06:20 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl41sTALR4c 06:20 RealBadAngel watch the vid, you will c 06:20 cornernote_ yeah, hard to explain in text 06:20 leo_rockway I watched that a while ago... I didn't understand if there was a final goal 06:20 RealBadAngel its a gameplay from the very begining 06:20 leo_rockway like: build a house and have a farm 06:21 leo_rockway or: reach the surface 06:21 leo_rockway or... whatever 06:21 RealBadAngel to build whole world 06:21 RealBadAngel watch later episodes 06:21 leo_rockway I guess I should try it too 06:21 leo_rockway RealBadAngel: yeah, I only watched this one (the first one) 06:21 RealBadAngel you have to use all the mechanism of the game 06:22 RealBadAngel to produce another nodes 06:22 RealBadAngel farm 06:22 RealBadAngel all of it 06:22 leo_rockway sounds interesting. 06:22 RealBadAngel wait a sec 06:23 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUDchSCZzEw&feature=BFa&list=SPC2F778AABFB7556D 06:23 RealBadAngel watch world made of of skyblock 17 episodes later 06:24 cornernote_ i think i need to mod so flowing water turns to water (and same with lava) 06:25 leo_rockway holy macaroni! 06:25 cornernote_ so you can make more generators 06:25 leo_rockway cornernote_: doesn't the flowing water mod do that? 06:25 RealBadAngel charcoal could be also usefull there 06:25 cornernote_ link ? 06:25 cornernote_ RBA, howso ? 06:25 RealBadAngel to power ur furnaces 06:26 RealBadAngel and make torches 06:26 leo_rockway cornernote_: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2420 06:26 cornernote_ i get coal_lump by digging stone 06:26 cornernote_ 1/100 chance i think 06:26 RealBadAngel too complicated 06:26 RealBadAngel allow to make it from trees 06:26 RealBadAngel you can make tree farms 06:27 cornernote_ leo, i think the mod just animates them... i want them to actually change from water_flowing to water_source via an ABM 06:27 cornernote_ there was some examples with lava, i think segfault did it 06:28 cornernote_ like this - https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-megapack/tree/master/mods/lava 06:29 RealBadAngel i think i could for it a charcoal driven grinder 06:29 cornernote_ skyblock volcanos 06:29 RealBadAngel so you could make sand and gravel out of stone 06:29 RealBadAngel and then glass 06:29 cornernote_ yeah, sand is a drop at the moment too :( 06:30 cornernote_ kinda lame making these things drop .. but they are the default blocks .. we can mod and add in better blocks 06:30 RealBadAngel im codin electric one now, will adapt it later to use charcoal 06:31 cornernote_ ok, so back to my problem... the start area 06:31 RealBadAngel hmmm 06:31 cornernote_ do you think its lame to start everyone at X + 32 from the last person ? 06:31 RealBadAngel too close i think 06:31 cornernote_ should i make some kinda expanding circle ? 06:31 cornernote_ well, the number is a variable 06:31 cornernote_ its the algorithum im talking about 06:32 cornernote_ {x+SPACER,y,x} 06:32 VanessaE hey jin 06:32 cornernote_ but i dont know how to make an expanding circle 06:32 RealBadAngel move them in anoter directions too 06:32 cornernote_ randomly ? 06:32 RealBadAngel no 06:33 RealBadAngel make a table with spawning points 06:33 RealBadAngel once used wont be aviable 06:33 cornernote_ ok, and how to generate that table for 1000 players ? 06:33 cornernote_ or 10000 06:33 cornernote_ not that any server will have 10000, but im just saying 06:33 RealBadAngel a grid 06:34 cornernote_ i think an expanding circle 06:34 RealBadAngel 0,0 100,0 0,100 100,100 etc 06:34 cornernote_ yes, i know how to save data =) 06:34 jin_xi morning all 06:34 cornernote_ but i mean to populate it with 10k results 06:34 cornernote_ eg... convert your "etc" out to 10k 06:34 RealBadAngel write a loops 06:35 cornernote_ lol 06:35 cornernote_ i know how to program, and how to save data 06:35 RealBadAngel you mean, store it? 06:35 cornernote_ what i dont know is an algorithum that will result in a non-colliding expanding circle of "nodes" 06:36 cornernote_ if, player 1 is 0,0,0 06:36 cornernote_ player2 is 0+SPACER,0,0 06:36 cornernote_ then player 3 is 0,0,0+SPACER 06:36 cornernote_ then player 4 is 0+SPACER,0,0+SPACER 06:37 RealBadAngel assume just 2 coords needed 06:37 cornernote_ and it has to go around in a circle back to the start 06:37 RealBadAngel all will spawn at the same height 06:37 cornernote_ once it gets to the start, it uses SPACER*2 06:37 cornernote_ so it would spiral out 06:37 cornernote_ thats the word, spiral 06:37 RealBadAngel make a table that with hold a grid, and player name 06:38 RealBadAngel store it in a node somwhere in the world 06:38 cornernote_ yes, i know that, but how to get the data to put in it 06:38 jin_xi table.insert()? 06:38 RealBadAngel in its meta 06:39 cornernote_ i know how to insert... where does the data come from ? 06:39 cornernote_ eg: if there are 10000 players who want to play... i need 10000 positions 06:39 cornernote_ so i need to generate 10000 positions 06:39 RealBadAngel too much for such limited world ;) 06:39 cornernote_ ok 100 06:39 RealBadAngel make 100, fairly enough 06:39 cornernote_ the number is not the point, try to focus 06:39 cornernote_ i need 100 all evenly spaced 06:40 cornernote_ player 1 i dont want on the corner 06:40 cornernote_ i want him in the middle 06:40 jin_xi do the spiral thing using radius and angle if you want spiral 06:40 RealBadAngel for x=-1000 to 1000 step 100 for z=-1000 to 1000 step 100 06:41 RealBadAngel you will have then your grid 06:41 RealBadAngel with 0 as center 06:41 RealBadAngel each generater pair of x,z will be spawn point 06:41 cornernote_ 17 16 15 14 13 06:41 cornernote_ 18 05 04 03 12 06:41 cornernote_ 19 06 01 02 11 06:41 cornernote_ 20 07 08 09 10 06:41 cornernote_ 21 22 23 24 25 06:41 cornernote_ like that 06:42 RealBadAngel to each pair in table give empty string 06:42 RealBadAngel empty means not occupied yet 06:42 RealBadAngel with player name, already used and occupied spawn point 06:42 FreeFull cornernote_: And you really can't come up with a program that would generate something like this? =P 06:43 leo_rockway shift + click like MC would be very convenient in MT 06:43 FreeFull leo_rockway, I agree 06:43 RealBadAngel @leo: indeed 06:43 cornernote_ FreeFull, not really... why, is it simple ? 06:43 leo_rockway I was testing MC the other day. I played for about 5 hours. I really liked that feature. 06:44 leo_rockway I don't think we're very far from MC funwise. 06:44 RealBadAngel cornernote: i already told ya how to code it 06:44 RealBadAngel make those two loops, one inside of another 06:44 RealBadAngel thats all 06:44 FreeFull MC doesn't allow you to go anywhere as deep 06:45 FreeFull And minetest sometimes ends up with these really impressive mountains 06:45 cornernote_ RBA, you told me how to make a grid, which would look like this: 06:45 cornernote_ 01 02 03 04 .. 10 06:45 cornernote_ 11 12 13 14 .. etc 06:45 RealBadAngel a sqare with dots in it step 100 one from each other 06:45 RealBadAngel in each direction 06:46 cornernote_ how do i get the 57th spawnpoint using the spiral example above ? 06:47 RealBadAngel index no 57 in table? ;) 06:47 cornernote_ in your table, that would be 5 down, 7 across 06:47 cornernote_ in mine it would be in the spiral 06:48 cornernote_ where is pos1 in yours ? 06:48 cornernote_ -1000,0,-1000 06:48 cornernote_ in mine its 0,0,0 06:48 RealBadAngel it depends how do i number them 06:48 cornernote_ in yours, pos2 is -1000,0,-900 06:48 cornernote_ mine is 0,0,100 06:48 RealBadAngel can just run a snake from 0,0 to the last point 06:49 cornernote_ ok, thats a good point 06:49 cornernote_ how you number them 06:49 cornernote_ i'd like to number them to represent a spiral (as per example) 06:50 RealBadAngel i would write a snake algorithm to generate it for me 06:50 cornernote_ snake algorithm ??? 06:50 cornernote_ your just messing with me right 06:50 RealBadAngel will go spiral from center to the edge of the grid 06:51 cornernote_ i think i have an idea.... 06:51 FreeFull I'm sure there is a formula that converts a position from something like 05 to the position in the snake grid 06:52 cornernote_ yeah, thats what im after 06:52 cornernote_ would make starting a lot better than just +SPACER in 1 direction 06:52 RealBadAngel gimme a few minutes 06:52 cornernote_ ok thanks 06:54 cornernote_ might be a cool algorithum for tools like multinode/worldedit 06:54 cornernote_ hollow spirals 06:55 cornernote_ my other issue is that i cannot (despite hours of trying) think of a way to build 1 block under a new player 06:56 cornernote_ basically the block loads too late, and the player already fell through 06:56 cornernote_ so i tried this... 06:56 cornernote_ use an indestructable spawn block... if the block is not there then don't kill the player, just place the block and spawn them back 06:57 cornernote_ but same problem.... 06:57 cornernote_ sometimes it makes the block too late, and they already fell 06:57 cornernote_ this time they die because the block is there 06:58 cornernote_ maybe hold them at y=0 until the block appears, put an abm to do it 06:58 cornernote_ or an on_step 06:59 RealBadAngel http://www.codeforge.com/read/196156/main.cpp__html 06:59 RealBadAngel here you go 06:59 RealBadAngel spiral matrix generator written in c++ 07:00 cornernote_ nice, thanks RBA! 07:00 cornernote_ i'll have a crack to make it into minetest lua 07:01 RealBadAngel idea is easy 07:01 cornernote_ added the URL to the code in a todo note 07:01 cornernote_ will have a crack tonight 07:02 RealBadAngel another one in java 07:02 RealBadAngel http://stackoverflow.com/questions/945265/2d-array-in-spiral-order 07:02 cornernote_ looks reasonable easy 07:03 cornernote_ that looks easier 07:03 RealBadAngel this is even easier 07:03 RealBadAngel yea 07:03 RealBadAngel uncle google knows lotsa stuff ;) 07:03 cornernote_ awesome, thanks! 07:03 cornernote_ well, i didnt even know the question to start with! haha 07:04 RealBadAngel thats the most common problem indeed 07:04 cornernote_ i just knew that x + SPACER sucked 07:04 cornernote_ i dont need a table, or to store it, or anything 07:04 cornernote_ i just need the next x/z in the list 07:05 cornernote_ maybe store it for performance or whatever 07:05 RealBadAngel yeah 07:05 RealBadAngel generate it just once 07:06 RealBadAngel to each pair of coords put field to store players name 07:06 RealBadAngel so if empty, another can spawn there 07:06 RealBadAngel and will also mark player spawn location 07:07 RealBadAngel so he can only spawn on own skyblock 07:14 RealBadAngel and got idea on spawnin too 07:14 RealBadAngel spawn players a bit higher 07:15 RealBadAngel and put a bit of water there 07:17 RealBadAngel ha found even better table generator 07:17 RealBadAngel http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8979214/iterate-over-2d-array-in-an-expanding-circular-spiral?lq=1 07:17 RealBadAngel under: UPDATE 07:18 RealBadAngel even with graphics to show result 07:41 cornernote_ ok, i got the start block fixed so you dont die when you join 07:45 RealBadAngel and im still messing with grinder ;) 07:46 RealBadAngel im think about order of grinding 07:46 RealBadAngel cobble->gravel, stone->sand 07:46 RealBadAngel and gravel->dirt 07:47 RealBadAngel this way you could have all needed earth nodes out of cobble 07:57 FreeFull desert stone -> desert sand 08:01 RealBadAngel yeah 08:01 RealBadAngel anythin more? 08:01 cornernote_ maybe a skyblock variation where the objective is to build over to other people's blocks and raid them haha 08:02 RealBadAngel lol 08:02 RealBadAngel make basic one 1st 08:02 cornernote_ doing the spiral now 08:02 cornernote_ just thinking random thoughts 08:02 RealBadAngel then you can make Skyblock Reloaded ;) 08:02 cornernote_ i added abm to change flowing lava/water to lava/water source 08:03 cornernote_ so then you can make more generators 08:03 cornernote_ and water/lava features 08:03 RealBadAngel make it so like in minecraft 08:03 RealBadAngel in 2x2 hole 08:03 cornernote_ 1x3 hole 08:03 RealBadAngel when sources put in corners make infinite source of water 08:03 cornernote_ oh 08:04 RealBadAngel so takin one, another fills it up 08:04 cornernote_ i dont understand 08:04 cornernote_ yeah, i get infinite 08:04 cornernote_ let me explain what i dont understand 08:04 RealBadAngel k 08:05 cornernote_ under which conditions should water_source turn to water_source infinite ? 08:05 cornernote_ and, i assume there is no block for an infinite water source, how do you make one ? 08:05 RealBadAngel when x+1, z+1 or x-1,z-1 08:05 RealBadAngel is another source 08:05 cornernote_ ok 08:06 RealBadAngel takin one source causes another to regenarate it 08:06 cornernote_ so 2 sources together make both into infinite sources ? 08:06 RealBadAngel but only 2 08:06 cornernote_ or like a star... 08:06 cornernote_ 1 08:06 cornernote_ 1 1 1 08:06 cornernote_ 1 08:06 cornernote_ the middle one becomes infinite ? 08:06 RealBadAngel this way its done in mc 08:07 cornernote_ can you draw it ? 08:07 RealBadAngel look at the coords 08:07 cornernote_ ok, in your example its like this 08:07 cornernote_ WS WS 08:07 cornernote_ both become infinite 08:07 cornernote_ is that correct ? 08:08 cornernote_ i think that it shoud take 5 water to make 1 infinite 08:08 RealBadAngel just two 08:08 cornernote_ ok 08:08 cornernote_ a corner of mine 08:08 RealBadAngel check diagonal each 08:08 cornernote_ W W 08:08 cornernote_ W 08:08 cornernote_ like that 08:08 RealBadAngel not in line 08:08 cornernote_ makes the topleft one become infinite 08:08 RealBadAngel only diagonal 08:09 cornernote_ W 08:09 cornernote_ W 08:09 cornernote_ W 08:09 cornernote_ the middle one ? 08:09 RealBadAngel operate coords or u will mess it up 08:09 cornernote_ im trying to picture it 08:09 RealBadAngel when taken at (pos) 08:09 RealBadAngel check x+1, z+1 08:09 RealBadAngel x-1, z+1 08:10 RealBadAngel x+1, z-1 08:10 RealBadAngel x-1, z-1 08:10 RealBadAngel those 4 pairs, diagonal from water taken at 0 - pos 08:10 RealBadAngel if theres water source on any 08:10 RealBadAngel put water source at pos again 08:11 cornernote_ ok 08:11 RealBadAngel this way you will allow generatin infinite pools 08:11 cornernote_ that can never be removed 08:11 cornernote_ cos once 2 are in a lock, they both cant be removed 08:11 RealBadAngel at most simple config 2x2 will become infinite 08:12 RealBadAngel ah, theres a trick 08:12 cornernote_ ok, that was my concern 08:12 cornernote_ that seems bad 08:12 cornernote_ which is why i thought needing 2 corners was better 08:12 RealBadAngel put stone instead of takin water with bucket 08:12 cornernote_ i see 08:12 cornernote_ ok, done deal 08:12 cornernote_ will add that now 08:12 cornernote_ and remove abm 08:13 cornernote_ does MT have this logic already ? 08:13 RealBadAngel you do regeneratin only when picked water with bucket 08:13 cornernote_ i know there are infinite sources 08:13 cornernote_ ok, i see 08:13 RealBadAngel you shall do this in bucket mod i think 08:16 cornernote_ override it, yeah 08:16 cornernote_ but i wonder how infinite sources work in the MT game 08:17 RealBadAngel idk 08:17 VanessaE they're a pain in the ass 08:17 cornernote_ ok ... ? 08:17 VanessaE three water in a row makes the middle one infinite. anothing beyond that becomes impossible to exhaust with just a bucket. 08:18 cornernote_ ok, so its already like that 08:18 VanessaE yup 08:18 cornernote_ sec.. testing.. 08:18 RealBadAngel so maybe dont need to add more pain ;) 08:18 cornernote_ but problem is, you need 2, or 3 08:18 cornernote_ with the ABM, you only need 1 08:18 cornernote_ and some time 08:18 VanessaE and if you have lava + water = some other material (e.g. cobble or obsidian), you can do on one layer 08:18 VanessaE W W W 08:18 VanessaE on the next layer 08:18 VanessaE L 08:18 VanessaE L 08:18 VanessaE L 08:19 VanessaE and the one of the two middle slots where W and L cross becomes infinite whatever the material is. 08:20 VanessaE better to let the game manage the infinite water/lava for you than to use an ABM -- less CPU load that way I expect. 08:21 RealBadAngel when usin that way i described (messing with bucket mod) no abms needed at all 08:22 RealBadAngel user action (takin water) causes to regenarate, not the abm 08:22 cornernote_ yep, infinite works 08:22 cornernote_ the ingame one 08:23 RealBadAngel so left it as is 08:23 cornernote_ the thing i want the ABM for is something else 08:23 cornernote_ i give the player only 1 water and 1 lava 08:23 cornernote_ perhaps i need to give him 3 of each 08:23 RealBadAngel give 2 08:23 cornernote_ needs 3 08:23 RealBadAngel so 3 08:23 cornernote_ ok 08:23 cornernote_ done 08:23 RealBadAngel have to be enough to create infinite 08:24 cornernote_ yeah, without the abm 08:24 RealBadAngel btw about CPU load 08:24 RealBadAngel world will be almost empty 08:25 RealBadAngel so no worry bout load 08:25 VanessaE the map generator will find a way to spike your CPU :D 08:25 cornernote_ yeah =) 08:25 cornernote_ it does 08:25 RealBadAngel hahaha 08:25 VanessaE even with nothing to generate :-) 08:25 cornernote_ it has to generate all that air 08:25 RealBadAngel smart beast lol 08:25 cornernote_ and save it in sqlite 08:25 cornernote_ so that it knows its generated 08:25 cornernote_ i guess 08:26 cornernote_ abms are fast tho 08:26 cornernote_ cos there is very few non-air blocks 08:26 cornernote_ eg, i can write an abm for dirt to run C/I 1/1 08:27 cornernote_ and cpu is fine with that 08:27 VanessaE yeah but what of the OCD player who ends up building out a 1000x1000 meter world :-) 08:28 RealBadAngel abms workin on separate thread i think 08:28 cornernote_ how about a bucket ? 08:28 cornernote_ with these 6 sources ? 08:28 cornernote_ then they dont stack 08:28 RealBadAngel its possible to loop endlessly abm, and game works 08:28 cornernote_ 6 buckets of fluid, or 2 stacks of 3 fluids ? 08:28 RealBadAngel but abms looped 08:29 RealBadAngel i am playin with use for this mechanism 08:29 VanessaE 2 stacks of 3 plus one empty bucket. 08:29 cornernote_ HRMM, i know !! 08:29 cornernote_ this is multiplayer 08:29 cornernote_ so you need 2 friends to make an infinite source 08:29 cornernote_ you have upto 8 friends joined to you 08:30 RealBadAngel good idea 08:30 RealBadAngel but you should allow also singleplayers to develop it too 08:31 cornernote_ sinlgeplayer, i was gunna fo that L shaped map 08:31 cornernote_ with a chest 08:31 RealBadAngel but one thing 08:31 RealBadAngel players are 100 nodes from each other 08:32 cornernote_ in multiplayer, the L will me in the middle, but you wont spawn there.. you will spiral out 08:32 cornernote_ the spacing is a setting 08:32 cornernote_ i guess it depends on the type of game 08:32 RealBadAngel you cant make them too close 08:32 cornernote_ some styles may be close 08:32 cornernote_ others may need lots of build space 08:32 RealBadAngel it would kill the idea of buildin out of nothin 08:33 RealBadAngel if a new player could easily come to visit another one 08:33 cornernote_ true 08:33 cornernote_ 1st concept was 128 apart 08:33 RealBadAngel up to you 08:33 cornernote_ then i got smaller and smaller as i was testing 08:34 RealBadAngel and i think to be tested too 08:34 RealBadAngel how was with given range theyre able to reach each other 08:34 RealBadAngel how fast 08:35 cornernote_ yeah, in about 30 mins you can get a long way if you just build in a line 08:35 cornernote_ but then you cant build on their blocks 08:35 RealBadAngel dont forget you have to grow trees 08:35 cornernote_ already done 08:35 RealBadAngel to make tools 08:35 RealBadAngel dig cobble 08:35 cornernote_ thanks to PlizAdam's farming mod 08:35 RealBadAngel all takes time 08:35 cornernote_ oh, u mean ingame =) 08:35 cornernote_ lo 08:35 cornernote_ l 08:36 RealBadAngel no flyin, no set spawn 08:36 RealBadAngel everything out of nearly nothin 08:36 cornernote_ set spawn is automated.. you cant control it as a player 08:36 cornernote_ you are given a spawn point 08:37 RealBadAngel yeah 08:37 cornernote_ ok, im gunna do this spiral 08:37 RealBadAngel so, it gonna be hardcore 08:37 RealBadAngel and thats is fun :) 08:40 cornernote_ http://stackoverflow.com/questions/398299/looping-in-a-spiral 08:40 VanessaE hardcore? suggest it to c55 then ;) 08:41 VanessaE 08:58 VanessaE bbl 08:59 cornernote_ ok, this is the exact function i want - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10094745/find-the-position-nth-element-of-a-rectangular-tiled-spiral 08:59 cornernote_ input the number of steps (eg, the next player counter), and output the x/z of the next spiral location 09:00 cornernote_ but how can i write this in lua: 09:00 cornernote_ [floor(((x+2)**2)/4) for x in range(n+2)] 09:00 Calinou [cause a segfault] j/k 09:00 Calinou hi 09:00 cornernote_ :S 09:01 cornernote_ hi Calinou 09:01 cornernote_ Calinou, im looking at this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10094745/find-the-position-nth-element-of-a-rectangular-tiled-spiral 09:01 cornernote_ want to make a square spiral 09:01 cornernote_ just for some context =) 09:02 * Calinou isn't a math freak, sorry 09:03 cornernote_ how about this part - for x in range(n+2) 09:03 cornernote_ wheres it get n ? 09:04 RealBadAngel do number them when generating 09:04 RealBadAngel when later you will need them just check [n] index of generated table 09:05 cornernote_ yeah, but thats not as cool 09:05 RealBadAngel 1st generated will be [1], 2nd [2] 09:05 cornernote_ ok, i need the generator part working... 09:05 cornernote_ then i can look them up however cpu allows 09:06 * cornernote_ goes back to reading c and java code 09:06 RealBadAngel once generated and stored in table 09:06 RealBadAngel u just look for [n] index og this table 09:07 RealBadAngel no formulas, nothin 10:16 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:18 cornernote_ hey 10:18 jin_xi hi adam 12:23 cornernote_ finally got square spirals working 12:23 cornernote_ 1 downside, you have to define a width for your world (eg: 10x10 players) 12:32 whirm cornernote_: what are square spirals? 12:32 RealBadAngel dont ask ;) 12:32 whirm XDDD 12:34 RealBadAngel as russian say, you know less, you live longer ;) 12:34 saschaheylik ten im gonna die very soon 12:34 saschaheylik *then 12:35 RealBadAngel hehehe 12:35 whirm XDD 12:38 NekoGloop Hello peoples 12:39 saschaheylik you. 12:39 NekoGloop who? 12:41 RealBadAngel are you not human that call us people? ;) 12:41 RealBadAngel hi 12:41 NekoGloop :P 12:41 NekoGloop well what're you up to, realbadangel? 12:42 RealBadAngel nothin really ;) 12:42 NekoGloop lol 12:42 NekoGloop work on technic >:D 12:43 RealBadAngel old polish joke, when some comes and say "hi, people" answer was "hi, monkey" 12:43 NekoGloop lol 12:43 RealBadAngel almost finished grinder, its gonna be uploaded today 12:43 saschaheylik thats random 12:43 NekoGloop kewl 12:44 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Is music player implemented? 12:44 RealBadAngel yes, you seen video 12:44 RealBadAngel hi sdzen, hows the textures? 12:45 sdzen good 12:45 sdzen i think i have most of them done :P 12:45 RealBadAngel be fast, adding new machine each day now ;) 12:46 sdzen http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7453/screenshot743120211.png 12:46 RealBadAngel theres tool workshop, music player and the grinder which is almost ready 12:46 sdzen that fast enough? 12:46 sdzen i havent gotten some other stuff 12:46 NekoGloop sdzen: maybe make the batteries and batboxes still be copper-colored :P 12:46 RealBadAngel cool :) 12:46 sdzen do you want me to play with the chest textures as well? 12:47 RealBadAngel wait till mithril will got link ability 12:47 * NekoGloop kicks RealBadAngel for not using overlays in his textures 12:47 RealBadAngel when im done with basic machines i will finish the chests 12:47 sdzen idk if i even have the latest version of your mod 12:48 RealBadAngel 0.63 was latest public 12:48 NekoGloop Marked chest colors should be overlays on the base chest's texture. Not actually put on the texture itself. 12:48 sdzen yep thats what i have 12:49 sdzen and an overlay would be good :P 12:49 NekoGloop that way you dont need to make more textures for mithril chests, just plop the other ones on there. 12:49 NekoGloop sdzen: server down for any reason? 12:49 sdzen nope 12:49 sdzen why 12:50 RealBadAngel mithirl when connected will need 3 variants 12:50 NekoGloop nvm 12:50 sdzen it was crashed 12:50 NekoGloop was down earlier 12:50 RealBadAngel for 3 possible networks 12:50 NekoGloop so who else thinks it was landmine who griefed it? 12:51 RealBadAngel idk if it was landmine but an asshole for sure 12:51 NekoGloop well look at usu's house. 12:52 NekoGloop (assuming it's still there) 13:03 RealBadAngel i hate that "Some Exeption" 13:04 NekoGloop ? 13:04 RealBadAngel game crashes and all you can c is "Some exception" 13:05 NekoGloop ah 13:05 saschaheylik totally randomly? 13:05 saschaheylik NekoGloop: "ah" is very helpful. 13:06 NekoGloop ah 13:07 RealBadAngel no, testin my work 13:07 RealBadAngel after a few restart i got this shit 13:07 RealBadAngel and have to close the game 13:08 saschaheylik so its because of your changes? 13:08 RealBadAngel not to mention every enter the world takes longer 13:08 RealBadAngel only closing game helps 13:09 RealBadAngel not because of me 13:09 RealBadAngel game is not wipin out mem i suppose 13:11 RealBadAngel a question now 13:11 saschaheylik oh 13:11 RealBadAngel i want to create new itemstack 13:11 RealBadAngel got new, empty variable 13:11 RealBadAngel and want to create new itemstack with givin name of item/node 13:12 RealBadAngel any1? 13:12 RealBadAngel add_item doesnt work 13:12 NekoGloop Er... 13:13 NekoGloop Lemme re-upload my alchemy code 13:13 NekoGloop it has an example of that... i think 13:13 RealBadAngel gimme gimme 13:15 NekoGloop greedy little beggar arent you> 13:16 NekoGloop http://pastebin.com/7uQU779f 13:17 NekoGloop look at the extractor/fission_chamber/fusion_chamber code 13:17 NekoGloop in after_place_node 13:17 NekoGloop (that usage makes the node be in effect unplaceable) 13:20 RealBadAngel not exactly what i need 13:20 NekoGloop well idk then 13:20 NekoGloop was just an example >.> 13:21 NekoGloop at least unlike some other people i try to help 13:22 RealBadAngel i know, thx 13:23 NekoGloop instead of "look at lua_api.txt, y'know, that old doc that's worth shit" 13:26 RealBadAngel i got the solution 13:27 NekoGloop kewl 13:27 RealBadAngel new_item=ItemStack("default:sand") 13:27 RealBadAngel for example 13:31 NekoGloop kewl 13:34 Keegan hello 13:36 NekoGloop hello 13:40 NekoGloop Did I seriously just mine all that... with a full inventory...?! 13:46 Keegan anyone know a free hosting serverices 13:47 FreeFull NekoGloop: So you wasted a bunch of blocks? 13:48 NekoGloop FreeFull: Basically 50-70 cobble never got into my inventory and I wasted a Alatro Pickaxe 13:50 FreeFull Fun 13:51 Calinou Keegan, free website hosting yes, free server hosting no 13:55 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 14:03 RealBadAngel shit, done 14:03 NekoGloop I really should be working on my mod >.> 14:03 Keegan anyone know how to complie 0.4.2 r1 14:03 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/grinder.png 14:04 NekoGloop @Keegan: ~magic~ 14:05 * NekoGloop pats RealBadAngel's back 14:05 NekoGloop Windows ftw ;) 14:05 thexyz RealBadAngel: do you code without syntax highlighting? 14:06 Keegan i should be workng on my mods too 14:06 NekoGloop YOU HAVE A SKYPE ALERT!!!! :D 14:08 RealBadAngel thexyz: am i blind to have highlitin? ;) 14:08 RealBadAngel dont need to 14:08 thexyz strange... 14:08 thexyz have you, at least, tried to enable it? 14:08 Keegan what would be a good mod to do?€ 14:08 RealBadAngel too many colors distract me 14:09 NekoGloop Keegan: one that lets you eat other players ;) 14:09 thexyz then your highlighting scheme is wrong 14:09 RealBadAngel i do read many lines at sight 14:09 thexyz btw, for me it's nearly impossible to code without highlighting 14:09 RealBadAngel with colors its worse for me to read as fast 14:10 RealBadAngel im trained to read another way 14:10 NekoGloop Well all I do is change the colors to not be distracting but still legible 14:10 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Welcome to my world. 14:10 RealBadAngel im used to read a lot of books 14:11 RealBadAngel i do read them damn fast 14:11 NekoGloop me too lol 14:11 RealBadAngel tolkien's silmarillion is for me just for 2 evenings 14:11 NekoGloop Well if I have the inclination to do so I could read that in 2 days 14:12 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/VEqiT.png 14:12 RealBadAngel i tried highliting but then i cant read so fast 14:12 thexyz why do you need to read your code fast? 14:12 thexyz there shouldn't be million of symbols 14:12 NekoGloop thexyz: I cant read that at all >.> 14:13 RealBadAngel to take a look at the page of code and see it all 14:13 RealBadAngel like a page of book 14:13 thexyz reading code like a book, hm.. 14:13 RealBadAngel then you understand a BIT more 14:13 thexyz anyway 14:15 Keegan I made a lavamese mod and fridge mod and ruby mod 14:16 Keegan but i need help with my fridge mod 14:16 NekoGloop "lavamese" dafuq? 14:16 NekoGloop >ruby mod 14:17 NekoGloop there's already gems mod by wowiamdiamonds 14:17 Keegan i know i just found that out after i made it 14:17 NekoGloop lol 14:17 NekoGloop what's lavamese? 14:17 Keegan when water hits lava it turns to mese 14:17 NekoGloop I would do cobble/stone, not mese 14:18 Keegan cheating way 14:18 NekoGloop maybe mese for lava_source 14:18 NekoGloop which turns into mese, the lava or the water? 14:18 RealBadAngel furnace code is a mess 14:18 Keegan m still thinking on that 14:18 RealBadAngel i threw it all away 14:18 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: ikr 14:18 Keegan but why cant open my fridge? 14:19 NekoGloop Keegan: did you use chest code as a reference? 14:19 Keegan kinda 14:19 RealBadAngel only comments left from original code lol 14:19 NekoGloop hm... 14:19 Keegan i got it from madchickens chest code 14:20 NekoGloop oh well no wonder it doesnt work 14:20 RealBadAngel hahahah 14:20 RealBadAngel i told him it gonna crash 14:20 NekoGloop you may wish to virusscan your computer 14:20 Keegan why 14:20 NekoGloop >madchicken 14:20 RealBadAngel take chest code from rc1 14:20 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: he cant compile rc1 14:20 RealBadAngel new chest code is way different 14:21 RealBadAngel so take my iron chest 14:21 VanessaE he should be able to, he runs linux 14:21 VanessaE also good morning :-) 14:21 NekoGloop g'mornin vanessae 14:21 Keegan good morning 14:21 RealBadAngel hi vanessa 14:21 NekoGloop I meant he cant get anyone to help him. 14:22 NekoGloop would if i could but i just downloaded the run in place version for windows ;) 14:22 VanessaE what's the problem? 14:22 NekoGloop idk if he even has the source code yet 14:25 Keegan where is your chest mod? 14:25 NekoGloop derop 14:25 NekoGloop deroooop 14:25 NekoGloop ITS HIS FREAKIN TECHNIC MOD 14:26 NekoGloop (derop is an extended version of derp btw ;)) 14:26 NekoGloop (aka a typo) 14:28 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/iron_chest.lua 14:28 RealBadAngel here you go with chest code 14:28 Keegan i already found it 14:29 RealBadAngel main chest code comes from 0.4.2rc1 14:29 RealBadAngel its different as in previous releases 14:30 RealBadAngel but will work for previous ones too 14:30 RealBadAngel old one will not work with newer 14:31 RealBadAngel thats why i laughed at madchicken 14:31 Calinou RealBadAngel, you don't need to define stack_max 14:31 Calinou default is 99 14:31 Calinou :x 14:32 NekoGloop of course you can make it be 65535, to have a sh*tload of items :D 14:32 RealBadAngel it was in example i believe 14:32 RealBadAngel so its copy paste now 14:32 RealBadAngel but usefull when i need to restrict it 14:32 RealBadAngel already have variable there 14:33 RealBadAngel i do code this way, remember where last time i used somethin and copy a piece 14:34 RealBadAngel delete whats not needed, add new and go 14:34 NakedFury hello guys, good morning 14:34 NekoGloop lol I just tryed to print a file 14:35 RealBadAngel good evenin ;) 14:35 NekoGloop and i have no printer hooked up to this computer 14:35 VanessaE morning NakedFury. 14:35 RealBadAngel grab a piece of paper and pencil then ;) 14:35 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 14:36 * NekoGloop is happy kitty today :3 14:37 thexyz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2797 14:37 * thexyz facepalms 14:37 * NekoGloop also facepalms 14:37 VanessaE *hangs head* 14:37 VanessaE neworking FAIL 14:37 VanessaE networking, too 14:37 RealBadAngel ok, grinder is now bulletproof 14:37 Keegan help me http://pastebin.com/UB7fkZdz 14:37 RealBadAngel now definitions just 14:37 NekoGloop 1: no version of minetest is specifyed 14:38 VanessaE Keegan: I've seen that error before - what were you doing when it happened? 14:38 NekoGloop 2: "how do I add mods and textures to only that world" give him the pin for being the largest idiot ever 14:38 Keegan i wasnt even on the server im trying to make mods 14:38 * thexyz facepalms even more 14:39 * NekoGloop lol's at the fact thexyz even posted 14:39 VanessaE Keegan: what *precisely* were you doing when it happened? 14:39 RealBadAngel i ve seen such error in forums 14:40 RealBadAngel but dont remember where 14:40 Keegan doing mods but i wasnt on the server 14:40 VanessaE Keegan: what precisely were you doing when it happened? 14:40 thexyz Keegan: it seems your entity with physical=true is located near undefined node 14:40 VanessaE as in exactly what action did you take? 14:40 NekoGloop Keegan: WHICH FREAKIN MOD 14:41 RealBadAngel ha 14:41 RealBadAngel vanessa was involved 14:41 Keegan idk 14:41 cornernote_ ok 14:41 RealBadAngel https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/148 14:41 cornernote_ pre-release before i put it on the forums 14:41 cornernote_ https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-skyblock 14:41 NekoGloop Keegan: could you stop being an idiot and look at your mods folder and tell us WHICH FERAKIN MODS YOU HAVE 14:41 thexyz Keegan: you may add if minetest.registered_nodes[nn] == nil then return end to buildin/item_entity.lua after line 74 14:41 VanessaE hah! yep I knew I'd seen it somewhere before 14:42 Keegan 3dforniture beer junglegrass locked_sign money moreblocks moreores spawnblocks stairsplus teleporters teleporter reloaded weed whisper wool worldedit 14:43 NekoGloop wtf is reloaded 14:43 Keegan settp_home/miine/town 14:44 NekoGloop oh a madchicken mod 14:44 NekoGloop another thing to make sure to delete 14:44 Keegan my fridge mod doesnt work :( 14:46 RealBadAngel no power? ;) 14:46 NekoGloop lol 14:46 Keegan no cant even open it 14:49 Keegan now what mod to do 14:49 cornernote_ is there a way to clear the chat/output text from the screen 14:49 VanessaE have your mom take the lock off the door :D 14:49 VanessaE cornernote_: F2 will hide it 14:49 cornernote_ ta 14:53 Calinou F1 and F2 14:53 Calinou F1 hides HUD, F2 chat 14:53 Calinou F5 shows/hides debug info 14:53 NekoGloop no Alt+F4 :D 14:54 Keegan for what 14:54 Calinou lol NekoGloop 15:00 RealBadAngel aaaaah, again some new textures need to be done 15:01 RealBadAngel now ores dust 15:02 Keegan how do ii add pctures 15:02 RealBadAngel where? 15:02 Keegan forums 15:02 RealBadAngel upload it first 15:02 RealBadAngel then when have link 15:02 RealBadAngel type [img]link[/img] 15:03 RealBadAngel use imageshack.us for example 15:03 VanessaE or imgur 15:03 VanessaE or ompldr 15:03 RealBadAngel whatever :) 15:03 Keegan did and didnt show 15:04 Keegan got it 15:04 NekoGloop use omploader you get the BBCode given to you 15:05 RealBadAngel once he did it he will know 15:05 RealBadAngel with any site 15:05 Keegan how do i make the picture bigger? 15:05 VanessaE you probably linked to the thumbnail 15:05 VanessaE link to the full sized image instead 15:06 NekoGloop i link to full pics but omploadr doesnt like that 15:06 VanessaE so use imgur :-) 15:06 Calinou works for me 15:07 Keegan i am 15:07 Keegan i just need my picture bigger 15:07 VanessaE Calinou: actually I've had the same problem with ompldr. links to thumbnails worked, but for whatever reason the full-size image didn't. 15:07 Calinou link to the full link ;) in img tags 15:07 Calinou anyway I use dropbox now 15:08 VanessaE Keegan: what is the link to the image? 15:08 VanessaE paste the URL here 15:08 Keegan http://i.imgur.com/XDoXIs.jpg 15:08 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr9Eq4f2Whw&feature=relmfu this is funny as hell xD 15:09 VanessaE looks like you cropped it to size 15:11 Keegan how do i make it bigger? 15:11 VanessaE what did you use to take this screenshot? 15:11 Keegan f12 15:11 NekoGloop he used ~magic~ 15:12 Keegan its getting smaller everytime i make t bigger 15:13 VanessaE http://imgur.com/XDoXIs 15:13 VanessaE there's the full-size image 15:13 VanessaE you linked to the wrong one 15:13 VanessaE http://i.imgur.com/XDoXI.jpg 15:13 NakedFury you really need to take screenshots in daylight 15:13 VanessaE (note there's no 's' ahead of tghe jpg) 15:13 VanessaE keegan: in your game, type /time 7000 15:13 VanessaE then take a new screenshot 15:14 Keegan ok 15:15 NekoGloop Evil diamonds lol 15:15 Keegan ok now how do i do t agan 15:15 VanessaE do what? 15:16 Keegan got it thanks 15:22 RealBadAngel lol 15:22 * NekoGloop hates "click 'show comment' to go on an adventure" comments on youtube 15:23 NekoGloop Anyway, I am getting -REALLY- off-track here 15:24 RealBadAngel i made all ores dusts 15:24 RealBadAngel now downscale them 15:24 NekoGloop kewl 15:24 NekoGloop support for gloopores or not? 15:25 NekoGloop (I presume not) 15:25 RealBadAngel why not? 15:25 NekoGloop well if you want to I wont stop you 15:25 RealBadAngel take a ore dust picture 15:26 RealBadAngel make it the very same colour as your ore is 15:26 NekoGloop I thought you couldnt get your furnaces to allow other ores without editing their abm/nodedef? 15:26 VanessaE NekoGloop: offtrack? fix the wheels on your minecart then ;-) 15:26 NekoGloop VanessaE: The rail ended 32 blocks back 15:26 RealBadAngel and send me it back with exact names 15:26 VanessaE haha 15:27 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Kind of busy atm... would it be too much of a bother to ask you to do it? 15:27 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/technic_gold_dust.png 15:28 RealBadAngel colorize it to fit your ores 15:28 NekoGloop not neccessarily have them have a use in your mod itself, just to make them >.> 15:28 NekoGloop OH HELL NO 15:28 NekoGloop I AM NOT WORKING WITH THAT HI-RES PIC 15:28 RealBadAngel i do 15:28 VanessaE gotta run, bbl 15:28 RealBadAngel and downscaling them 15:29 NekoGloop is it that hard to make the hi-res ones optional? 15:29 RealBadAngel this way i do have textures for hd pack and default 15:29 VanessaE looks like the dust I use for titanium dioxide :-) 15:29 RealBadAngel i do make Haven TP also 15:29 VanessaE now, bbl for real 15:29 NekoGloop oh I'll just colorize that ;) 15:29 RealBadAngel have you forgot? :P 15:30 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: you will get more people if your textures dont make default look like crap 15:30 RealBadAngel make them so i will dowscale them later 15:30 RealBadAngel rotfl 15:30 RealBadAngel i thought thats the point to make TP 15:30 NekoGloop I'm being serious 15:31 NekoGloop no 15:31 NekoGloop TP's are to cover up the good default textures 15:31 NekoGloop imo TP support should be removed 15:32 RealBadAngel there are many differnt TP's 15:32 RealBadAngel look at my post 15:32 RealBadAngel 1st sentence 15:32 NekoGloop and the default textures are perfectly fine. 15:32 RealBadAngel made to fit my taste 15:32 Keegan what mod should i do now 15:32 RealBadAngel and maybe yours too 15:32 Keegan should i do diifferent type of doors? 15:33 NekoGloop Keegan: one that gives you your own ideas 15:33 Keegan or make a wndow mod 15:33 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: I'm making a "fixed" TP that makes mods like yours fit in with default, while not editing default. 15:34 RealBadAngel lol 15:34 NekoGloop (actually it changes the steel sword texture to fit with the rest of them as well) 15:34 NekoGloop Since the mod makers are often idiots and dont add 16x support 15:35 RealBadAngel oh ty sir 15:35 NekoGloop Example: your wire texture is overkill 15:35 RealBadAngel i do provide 32x :P 15:35 NakedFury maybe those mod makers dont care abut 16x at all 15:35 NakedFury about 15:35 RealBadAngel neko: its not a texture in fact 15:35 RealBadAngel kind of 15:36 NekoGloop Fine, be total asses about people who dont want to spare 20Mb+ to have a single mod fit in 15:36 RealBadAngel wires are generated in a loop 15:36 RealBadAngel to make 64 nodes out of nothing :P 15:36 RealBadAngel and it uses only one 32x texture 15:37 RealBadAngel take a look at wires.lua 15:37 NekoGloop how about no? 15:38 RealBadAngel wanna make textures for every 64 nodes? 15:38 RealBadAngel youre welcome 15:38 Keegan have anyone made different types of doors? 15:38 NekoGloop Or you could make the freakin gold chests use an OVERLAY 15:38 RealBadAngel you will have a crate of beer on me then :) 15:38 NekoGloop ? 15:39 NekoGloop you want me to make gold chests use an overlay? 15:39 RealBadAngel because theyre NODES? 15:39 RealBadAngel and cant generate overlays in game? 15:39 NekoGloop NODES like moreores' ores use OVERLAYS 15:39 NekoGloop >.> 15:40 RealBadAngel and are fucked up when comes to another resolution TP 15:40 NekoGloop well then use 16x ;) 15:40 RealBadAngel ive predefined them and thats ok 15:40 NekoGloop -gasp- lower loading time 15:41 NekoGloop So... predictable >.> 15:41 NekoGloop There is a noticable slowdown when minetest gets to loading your textures. 15:41 RealBadAngel mine? 15:41 RealBadAngel :P 15:41 RealBadAngel try vanessa's 15:42 NekoGloop no i mean from your mod 15:42 RealBadAngel here my game starts 4-5s 15:42 RealBadAngel with MUSIC 15:42 RealBadAngel so stfu 15:42 NekoGloop keep in mind not everyone has stolen a supercomputer from nasa 15:42 * PilzAdam has 15:42 RealBadAngel i did? 15:43 RealBadAngel brb 15:43 NekoGloop otherwise you wouldnt be able to load minetest VANILLA in 2-5s >.> 15:43 NekoGloop 4-5s* 15:43 Calinou NODES like moreores' ores use OVERLAYS 15:43 Calinou silly c55, yeah :< 15:43 Calinou overlayed textures are bad 15:44 NekoGloop overlayed textures add more TP support 15:44 NekoGloop which shouldnt be there either but.. 15:44 PilzAdam NekoGloop, 5s 15:44 PilzAdam intel core i7 1st generation 15:44 NekoGloop I cant load minetest VANILLA within 20s 15:44 PilzAdam windows........ 15:45 NekoGloop ofc i use windows 15:45 NekoGloop you know that already 15:45 PilzAdam cause and effect 15:45 NekoGloop RealBadAngel needs to keep in mind not everyone can force more out of minetest than is pshysically possible. 15:45 PilzAdam you use windows -> slow 15:46 NekoGloop excuse me? 15:46 Calinou windows is sometimes the fastest; keep in mind the graphic drivers 15:47 Calinou performance can be good in linux, yes, but you need some luck 15:47 NekoGloop this computer running linux, which I had for a -very- short time as dualboot, is slower 15:47 NekoGloop so shove it 15:48 NekoGloop oh, no smart-alleck remarks this time? 15:50 whirm I'm terribly sorry to interrupt your battle, but what's the maximum depth you can dig in minetest? 15:50 NakedFury 31k 15:51 NakedFury same as the max height 15:51 whirm ok, Ill stop digging now 15:51 cornernote_ where do i request mods moved to Mod Releases now ? 15:51 PilzAdam <31k 15:51 PilzAdam something about 30900 15:51 PilzAdam cornernote_, here 15:51 NekoGloop cornernote_: ask politely when VanessaE is here 15:51 cornernote ok 15:52 NakedFury ask calinou, cisoun, sfan5, xyz, vanessa or celeron 15:52 PilzAdam NekoGloop, there are also xyz and Calinou 15:52 whirm what ores are in the default minetest? 15:52 NakedFury iron 15:52 NakedFury coal 15:52 PilzAdam coal, iron and mese 15:52 NakedFury thats it 15:52 whirm mese? 15:52 PilzAdam like diamond 15:52 whirm ah 15:52 cornernote if VanessaE or any forum mod here, can you please move my 2 new releases? 15:53 NekoGloop PilzAdam: they actually look to see if the mod is any godd first ;) 15:53 NekoGloop good* 15:53 whirm are they distributed in depths and veins like in minecraft or is something random? 15:53 cornernote >> PilzAdam: The velocity to the sides is too slow for that. ... what do you mean by that ? 15:53 cornernote items fall off the edge for me 15:54 NekoGloop whirm: coal == everywhere, iron == below 20Y (I think), mese below -64. 15:54 PilzAdam cornernote, realy 15:54 cornernote if you are 3 away, and no floor 15:54 NekoGloop randomness in vein generation 15:54 cornernote gravity pulls them down 15:54 cornernote right ? 15:54 PilzAdam yes 15:54 PilzAdam but they get a random side velocity 15:54 cornernote yep, thats what i mean 15:54 whirm NekoGloop: thanks a lot for the info 15:54 cornernote yeah, so even an item with a floor may shoot off the edge 15:55 PilzAdam and this velocity is not strong enough to pull them from they positon too far 15:55 cornernote makes it more fun, cos you have to stay close 15:55 cornernote ahh, i see 15:55 cornernote but if its at y+3 then its enough 15:55 whirm wow, how did I came to have air in my inventory? 15:55 PilzAdam in Minecraft the velocity is stronge 15:55 PilzAdam *stronger 15:55 cornernote i never played mc 15:55 Calinou whirm, random 15:55 PilzAdam ive seen vids 15:55 whirm "Air (you hacker you!)" << ?? 15:55 Calinou they're not (really) veins 15:55 Calinou O_o 15:56 Calinou did you just do /giveme air 15:56 whirm nope 15:56 PilzAdam I get air too 15:56 Calinou are you playing the minimal game or minetest_game? 15:56 PilzAdam without giveme 15:56 cornernote really ? 15:56 Calinou I don't 15:56 NekoGloop whirm: you're on sdzen's server, right? 15:56 cornernote digging it ? 15:56 Calinou git must be borked 15:56 cornernote i never got air 15:56 whirm nope 15:56 whirm local map 15:56 NekoGloop lol 15:56 NekoGloop well the 15:56 NekoGloop then* 15:56 PilzAdam there was lag and my item_drop mod creates a air item 15:56 Calinou whirm, play the minetest_game not minimal 15:56 Calinou http://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game 15:56 whirm I'm playing the normal game I think, let me check 15:57 NekoGloop using item_drop? 15:57 whirm yup, minetest, not minimal 15:57 NekoGloop it leads to all kinds of errors. 15:57 NekoGloop not just air 15:57 whirm just created a new world, jumped up a hill and cut down a tree 15:57 NekoGloop timber mod? 15:57 whirm less than two minutes of gameplay 15:58 whirm nope, vanilla minetest from git 15:58 NekoGloop worldgen may not have finished; allow it to run for a few more minutes. 15:58 PilzAdam oh yes i forgett to mention: timber mod + item_drop + lag = air 15:58 PilzAdam 4x air to be precise 15:59 NekoGloop (unless the tree magically is somehow shorter) 15:59 PilzAdam it wast a tree it was papyrus 15:59 PilzAdam ive disabled the timber mod for trees 15:59 PilzAdam only cactus and papyrus 16:00 NekoGloop lol 16:00 NekoGloop not much of a -timber- mod then is it? 16:02 NekoGloop NOW IM ON GOLD 16:02 whirm how comes lag influences in the type of block added to the inventory? 16:02 Calinou it doesn't 16:03 NekoGloop YOU CANNOT GRASP THE TRUE FORM OF THE LAG'S ATTACK!!! 16:03 whirm XDDDD 16:03 PilzAdam whirm, where do you get so many mouths 16:03 NekoGloop Random Mother reference is random 16:04 whirm PilzAdam: from the chinese shop down the street, they are quite cheap 16:04 * PilzAdam goes buying some mouths 16:04 PilzAdam XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 16:05 PilzAdam i have more than you 16:05 NekoGloop XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 16:05 NekoGloop And I'm a theif :D 16:05 * NekoGloop runs from the angry chinese people from whom he stole the mouths 16:06 NekoGloop :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 16:06 PilzAdam ive created a rpg game for minetest: i call it RPG-Test 16:06 Keegan help http://pastebin.com/fquFB32S 16:06 PilzAdam is that a self made mod Keegan? 16:06 Keegan knda 16:07 PilzAdam giveme code 16:07 Keegan ok 16:07 Keegan from download? 16:07 PilzAdam pastebin 16:07 NekoGloop pastebin is a wonderful invention 16:08 RealBadAngel wooohoo, ores dust and smeltin it again works 16:08 RealBadAngel flawless victory ;) 16:08 PilzAdam github also has something like this, NekoGloop 16:08 Keegan http://pastebin.com/P8VxkVeV 16:09 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_opBqRtPTDE THIS IS UN OWEN!!!! 16:09 RealBadAngel shall be forbidden 16:09 PilzAdam Keegan, add "end" at line 199 to close the function at line 172 16:09 RealBadAngel to paste such shit ;) 16:10 NekoGloop What? 16:10 RealBadAngel that link 16:10 NekoGloop UN Owen + Sparta = Awesome 16:10 Keegan ok 16:10 RealBadAngel hehehe 16:10 RealBadAngel im gonna start mt 16:11 RealBadAngel and play a MUSIC 16:11 NekoGloop At least I didnt post the lyrical japanese version ;) 16:11 PilzAdam Keegan, registger_on_dignode is deprecated: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L789 16:11 RealBadAngel thats why music players are made for ;) 16:11 NekoGloop PilzAdam: I'm pretty sure such a function never existed ;) 16:11 PilzAdam Keegan, use on_dig = function... in the node defintion instead 16:11 RealBadAngel yeah 16:11 RealBadAngel much better 16:12 Keegan what lne? 16:12 Keegan lne* 16:12 NekoGloop ~MAGIC~ 16:12 cornernote im thinking of making some ABMs so that you can get more basic blocks... mossy cobble, cactus, papyrus .. all really need to grow 16:12 PilzAdam the whole code 16:12 Keegan line* 16:12 RealBadAngel mt as a music player works great hehehe 16:12 cornernote well, mossycobble doesnt grow.. it becomes mossy =) 16:12 Keegan where do i put it at? 16:12 NekoGloop cornernote: at least saplings/seeds from those two, like trees. 16:13 PilzAdam Keegan, in the node defintions at line 15 and 36 16:14 Keegan ok what do put agan 16:14 Keegan got it 16:16 NekoGloop hewwo Jeija :3 16:17 Calinou hi 16:17 PilzAdam Keegan, replace all the functions from line 202 to 204 with functions from here: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1349 16:17 Calinou Jeija, can you specify a license for your throwing mod so that I can add it to mod releases forum? 16:18 Jeija eeehm let's say WTFPL 16:18 PilzAdam Jeija, are you still supporting your throwing mod? 16:18 PilzAdam you can use the strings from my farming mod 16:18 Keegan ok 16:18 Jeija Actually no 16:18 leo_rockway hello, peeps 16:18 leo_rockway PilzAdam: those scarecrows are awesome! 16:19 PilzAdam th 16:19 PilzAdam *thx 16:20 Keegan still say error 16:21 cornernote PilzAdam, yeah, i stole trees from there, i might steal more to get cactus/papyrus 16:22 Keegan error >> http://pastebin.com/pQU9314i 16:24 leo_rockway PilzAdam: you're right about the buckets not having tooltips, I forgot about that. It had bugged me too o.o 16:26 Keegan error http://pastebin.com/pQU9314i 16:26 PilzAdam leo_rockway, i added tooltips for rubber because there might be people out there that didnt know what the texture belongs too 16:27 PilzAdam Keegan, "Joyce" is a nice username :) 16:27 RealBadAngel oke doke, got whole code for grinder done 16:27 PilzAdam Keegan, give me the part with ==Lua Error== and the new code 16:28 RealBadAngel now just textures for it, and will upload 16:28 leo_rockway PilzAdam: neat =] 16:29 Keegan joyce s the person who i bought it from 16:29 leo_rockway cornernote: in the skyblock video I watched the guy used iceblocks instead of a water of bucket. 16:29 Keegan http://pastebin.com/6niFBqwq 16:29 leo_rockway in that way you can give the player a bucket of lava and a block of ice... 16:29 leo_rockway there are ice in snow mod 16:29 leo_rockway they don't convert to water when mined, but that could be changed 16:29 leo_rockway I believe they convert to water when melted with a fire source, though. 16:30 NekoGloop on_dig place_node(water_source)? 16:30 NekoGloop or something like that 16:36 cornernote hey RBA, can you make a powered mining machine with an inventory? 16:36 cornernote eg, water + lava = stone, can you harvest the stone over and over ? 16:37 cornernote that would be a cool addon for skyblock 16:37 cornernote uber 16:37 NekoGloop this wouldnt be so bad if I was at least looking at something on youtube like minecraft mods 16:37 NekoGloop but no I'm watching someone put a PS2 disc in a PS3 slim. 16:37 * NekoGloop facepalm 16:38 whirm NekoGloop: at least it's not a n64 cardtrige 16:38 whirm or a cup 16:39 NekoGloop LOL 16:39 NekoGloop someone put a cookie in their xbox360... 16:39 NekoGloop Surprisingly it recognized it as a xbox360 disc 16:39 whirm when I was 18 a guy came to the computer shop where I worked and told us that its cupholder wouldn't open anymore 16:40 NekoGloop LOL 16:40 whirm turns out he spilled coffe on the cd tray and it got glued because of the sugar.. 16:41 NekoGloop idiot. 16:41 NekoGloop what'd you say to him? 16:41 whirm oh, I was on the back fixing stuff, I preffer not to deal with this kind of people XD 16:42 NekoGloop lol 16:42 NekoGloop what did he get told though? 16:42 whirm I don't remember, but they shop guy was always making up stuff 16:43 NekoGloop lol 16:43 whirm once he told a customer its modem was defibrilated 16:43 whirm and needed to buy a new one 16:43 whirm they where the biggest pirates of the mediterranean coast 16:45 vicscandl }}yawn{{ 16:46 * NekoGloop gets a megashone 16:46 * NekoGloop points it in vicsandl's ear 16:46 NekoGloop GOOD MORNING 16:47 leo_rockway I have a friend who worked fixing computers. He gets a call from a woman at 4am, she was desperate because she had to print her doctorate thesis and her printer wasn't working... 16:48 leo_rockway he's pissed she's calling at 4am. He asks her to pick her printer up... 16:48 leo_rockway the woman is like "what?" 16:48 leo_rockway he repeats that she needs to pick the printer up in her hands 16:48 leo_rockway so she does it 16:48 leo_rockway then he asks her to walk 5 steps back 16:48 leo_rockway so the woman again is like "wait... WHAT!?" 16:48 leo_rockway but my friend insists, so she complies 16:49 leo_rockway so then he asks her "can you walk 5 steps back more?" 16:49 leo_rockway the woman says yes 16:49 leo_rockway so my friend replies "then don't be an idiot and plug in the f**king printer!" 16:49 whirm heh 16:49 PilzAdam lol 16:50 leo_rockway she was actually relieved she could print her _doctorate_ thesis. 16:50 NekoGloop OMG LOL 16:50 NekoGloop people these days >.> 16:50 leo_rockway I wouldn't give a doctorate to a person like that >.< 16:51 whirm I would make her walk backwards until she fell trough the balcony 16:51 leo_rockway xD 16:51 NekoGloop XD 16:51 * vicscandl fires up the coffee pot... 16:51 vicscandl whirm: ++ 16:51 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmvsiU1njEg&feature=g-vrec tennis between the two best minecraft reviewer... people... 16:52 whirm is there a tennis mod? 16:52 whirm wtf 16:52 NekoGloop no 16:52 NekoGloop just enchanted shovels and a villager 16:52 NekoGloop Knockback X, VIII, etc. 16:53 NekoGloop which reminds me, enchanting in minetest would be awesome 16:54 leo_rockway I have no idea how enchanting works in MC 16:54 leo_rockway I'm watching a series of videos call "how to survive and thrive" 16:54 leo_rockway and I actually played MC for about 5 hours the other day 16:54 NekoGloop lol 16:54 leo_rockway so I can see what we're doing well and what we're doing wrong. 16:55 leo_rockway I think MT is faster, prettier, and overall better. We just need better mobs. 16:55 leo_rockway and shift + click in inventories o.o 16:55 NekoGloop enchanting pulls random enchant-levels based on the amount of bookcases(?) near the enchanting table. these numbers correspond to various enchant-types, like knockback and silk touch. 16:56 leo_rockway oh, I heard about silk touch... I dn't remember what it does, though. 16:56 NekoGloop lets you get different drops 16:56 NekoGloop for example ice is actually minable. 16:56 * vicscandl has the cheese touch... 16:56 leo_rockway NekoGloop: oh, right. 16:56 NekoGloop glowstone doesnt turn into glowstone shards (or whatever they are) 16:57 vicscandl i wish tickets from work could > /udev/random 16:57 NekoGloop etc. 16:57 * VanessaE wanders in 16:57 leo_rockway wouldn't > /dev/null be better? 16:57 NekoGloop VanessaE is back! :D 16:58 vicscandl leo_rockway: why erase when you can scramble? 16:58 * leo_rockway high-fives VanessaE 16:58 VanessaE hi 16:58 leo_rockway vicscandl: because my next ticket for you would be "solve the scrambling" o.o 16:58 NekoGloop "welcome to the unethical treatment of villagers" LOL ANTVENOM 16:58 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmvsiU1njEg&feature=g-vrec 16:58 vicscandl leo_rockway: i've a 2pass trash system at this house.. :) 16:59 vicscandl scramble all bits in the file, then > /dev/null 16:59 leo_rockway that works =] 16:59 leo_rockway maybe shred too 16:59 vicscandl not that i need to with encryptedfs, but its a throwback to the days of old 16:59 NekoGloop print it, shred it, then burn the shreddings 17:01 vicscandl todays codetunes: http://www.psychedelik.com/flux/tunein-prog.pls 17:07 NekoGloop since when did youtube smack commercials on long vids? 17:08 PilzAdam you cant smelt snow or ice in the furnace 17:08 VanessaE since a couple years ago 17:08 PilzAdam should be added to the snow biome mod 17:08 VanessaE (most of us don't see such ads though, thanks to adblock plus) 17:08 NekoGloop no I mean regular breaks 17:09 VanessaE so do I 17:09 NekoGloop not the thing at the beginning 17:09 VanessaE of course blame Hulu for that, they kinda started that trend >:-( 17:10 NekoGloop no blame the person who made the internet 17:10 NekoGloop that always works 17:10 leo_rockway Al Gore? (?) 17:10 VanessaE GAH! punk'd :-) 17:10 VanessaE I was gonna say that :-) 17:10 leo_rockway \o/ 17:12 vicscandl "its just all tubes" 17:12 * VanessaE mumbles something about a dump truck 17:12 * NekoGloop mumbles something abotu a precious 17:13 leo_rockway I sent my assistant an internet yesterday and it hasn't arrived him, because the tubes are filled with useless stuff. 17:13 * VanessaE fills the tubes with more useless stuff 17:13 VanessaE you know the sad part is, the guy was right 17:14 leo_rockway I need to hear that interview again. It's so funny. 17:14 * Calinou fills the tubes with youtube 17:14 Calinou ^ what actually happens 17:14 Calinou and facebook 17:14 VanessaE I mean, his analogy isn't really too far off from what most of us use anyway 17:14 leo_rockway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f99PcP0aFNE 17:17 VanessaE I take it back 17:17 VanessaE this guy's a fucking idiot 17:17 RealBadAngel is there a way to override server sent sounds like with the textures/all 17:17 RealBadAngel ? 17:17 VanessaE never heard the whole recording before 17:18 Calinou this will be added to next minecraft release: http://i.imgur.com/g7tDq.png 17:18 * Calinou holds software patent for stairsplus panels, again 17:18 Calinou :< 17:19 * Calinou sues mojang 17:19 leo_rockway VanessaE: it's funny. 17:19 Calinou RealBadAngel, unfortunately, no :/ 17:19 Calinou gtg 17:19 leo_rockway imgur is blocked here... 17:20 * leo_rockway wgets from the server. 17:20 VanessaE leo_rockway: What the hell did he just say? 17:20 VanessaE leo_rockway: He went a whole long way to say not a fucking thing :-) 17:20 NekoGloop Technically those arent panels, those are glorified fences 17:20 leo_rockway VanessaE: hehe, yes! 17:21 NakedFury they are just stone fences 17:21 NakedFury took them too long to include them 17:21 VanessaE NakedFury, NekoGloop: Wall slabs. 17:21 VanessaE not panels. 17:21 leo_rockway they are stone walls with a stone slab every couple of blocks. 17:21 leo_rockway what's new in that? 17:22 leo_rockway VanessaE: top comment: 17:22 leo_rockway and those tubes are full of cats 17:22 VanessaE what's wrong with being full of cats? :-3 17:23 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 17:24 VanessaE better that than commercials and ads :-) 17:25 darkrose RealBadAngel: I *think* textures/all works for sounds too 17:25 NekoGloop Because cats are cute~ :3 17:25 jin_xi but can you use them as fuel? 17:25 leo_rockway VanessaE: nothing wrong. 17:25 leo_rockway I thought it was funny. 17:26 frogcrush Anyone know if Minetest will run on Multipoint Server? 17:26 RealBadAngel hmmmm 17:26 RealBadAngel gonna check this out 17:26 RealBadAngel i mean my music player 17:26 RealBadAngel so it could be able to play music even in multiplayer 17:26 darkrose if I remember the way path resolution works, it should 17:27 RealBadAngel i will put then my tracks into textures/all 17:27 RealBadAngel we will c 17:28 NekoGloop jin_xi: you can use nyancats as furnace fuel, yes ;) 17:28 VanessaE talk about an expensive fuel 17:28 NekoGloop it doesnt even burn that long 17:28 leo_rockway VanessaE: he's basically saying that using the internets to stream huge files ads to the latency of the overall network, so when people want to use the net for "legitimate" purposes, the internets is too slow to take the load. 17:29 leo_rockway adds* 17:29 darkrose frogcrush: no idea, try it and let us know 17:29 leo_rockway or at least that's what I gathered from it. 17:29 frogcrush ok, I will try 17:29 frogcrush Downloading 2012 beta now 17:32 RealBadAngel @darkrose: checked, no go 17:33 RealBadAngel moved my oggs to /textures/all , cleared cache 17:35 cornernote are you here PilzAdam? 17:35 cornernote how do i get seeds ? 17:36 vicscandl RealBadAngel: bummer 17:36 RealBadAngel ? 17:37 PilzAdam cornernote, digging grass with hoes 17:37 vicscandl RealBadAngel: sounds not spreading to clients, you said a no go 17:37 RealBadAngel hmmmm wait a sec 17:37 RealBadAngel i do have my own defined sounds 17:38 vicscandl sorry, i'm halfreading my backlog apparently 17:38 vicscandl tell me to STFU and go back to my real work please.. thanks. 17:38 RealBadAngel i do keep them in my mod /sounds 17:38 RealBadAngel when connected to server, it wont overwrite them? 17:38 RealBadAngel mod is bein sent 17:38 NekoGloop vicscandl: STFU amd go back to your real work. 17:39 vicscandl ty, be back in an hour 17:39 vicscandl haha 17:39 leo_rockway cornernote: you get more seeds with better hoes. 17:39 VanessaE haha 17:41 RealBadAngel i guess i will have to make test run with the server then 17:41 RealBadAngel locally it doesnt work 17:41 cornernote i gave me the best hoe 17:41 cornernote and still no seeds 17:41 cornernote 100 dirts later 17:41 cornernote strange 17:42 RealBadAngel uploading update with music player disabled then 17:42 RealBadAngel will have to wait when tested in MP 17:45 VanessaE bbl 17:45 NekoGloop you keep saying that 17:46 cornernote oh, seeds only come from dirt_with_grass 17:50 NakedFury dammit this kitkat is messing with my stomach 17:51 NekoGloop sowwie 18:01 NakedFury ohh hey 18:01 NakedFury wrong window 18:05 Keegan_ whats coal in the ground called? 18:06 NekoGloop default:stone_with_coal 18:06 NekoGloop but dont use it to craft 18:06 Keegan_ no its a mod 18:07 NekoGloop well how the hell do you expect me to know? 18:13 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8YDGI41mpQ&feature=related Nyan nyan nyan~ :3 18:24 NekoGloop I need to perservere on my mod 18:36 PilzAdam gtg 18:36 PilzAdam bye 18:36 Keegan_ when place my door it dissappears and how do i fix that 18:37 Keegan_ when place my door it dissappears and how do i fix that 18:41 FreeFull cornernote: I started a skyblock world and there is nothing for me to stand on, so I just fall and die 18:42 FreeFull Oh, this time there is a nyancat 18:42 FreeFull It wasn't there the first time 18:42 whirm lol, nyancat to the rescue! 18:43 FreeFull Seems the nyancat doesn't appear the first time I get into the world 18:43 NekoGloop LOL 18:43 FreeFull Only the second time 18:44 FreeFull Actually, not nyancat 18:44 FreeFull Rainbow block 18:44 FreeFull But you get what I mean 18:45 FreeFull And of course you lose your items when you die 18:45 Keegan_ when place my door it dissappears and how do i fix that 18:46 FreeFull Temporary solution, start a new skyblock world and then quit right after 18:46 FreeFull So when you go into it again you're on the rainbow block 18:47 Keegan_ when place my door it dissappears and how do i fix that?? 18:48 NekoGloop nyancat rainbow? 18:48 FreeFull cornernote: Is mining stone meant to sometimes give me sand? 18:55 FreeFull Ok, after getting into the skyblock world, wait a while, because any blocks you place might disappear for no reason :/ 18:56 FreeFull The rainbow block thing is really unreliable :/ 18:58 FreeFull Oh god 18:58 FreeFull The rainbow block disappeared below my feet 18:59 FreeFull I'll just /give myself the default stuff, since otherwise is a pain right now 19:02 tripod NekoGloop: as if not just tell me i need professional help 19:02 * tripod kisses NekoGloop 19:02 * NekoGloop ... 19:02 NekoGloop Go away creep 19:03 tripod be quiet moron 19:03 NekoGloop No 19:03 tripod well i wont go away then. 19:05 vicscandl all this furnace talk... 19:05 * vicscandl loads his water based furnace with some smokable medication... 19:06 FreeFull Oh no 19:07 FreeFull Oh, nevermind 19:07 FreeFull I'm fine 19:07 vicscandl ok, fine 19:09 FreeFull I thought I had no way to break stone anymore but I still had wood 19:14 FreeFull cornernote: How about, if lava or water hit the bottom of the world, they just disappear rather than spreading out 19:19 _2cool That was wierd 19:27 NekoGloop hewwo Jeija :D 19:27 FreeFull Ok, this is a pretty good set-up 19:28 Jeija Hi NekoGloop! Just pushed a lot of changes to mesecons again: https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons (Rules for conductors, allows vertical, isolated mesecons) 19:28 FreeFull NekoGloop: I can't blame vicscandl, gloops are very tempting to kiss 19:29 NekoGloop its not vicscandl lol 19:31 NekoGloop Jeija: Cool, getting it now. 19:34 NekoGloop I REALLY NEED TO MAKE MY FREAKIN MOD 19:34 NekoGloop NOT WATCH SLENDER VIDEOS >.> 19:35 NekoGloop (I have some really... unique tastes) 19:40 FreeFull NekoGloop: Woops, meant tripod 19:40 NekoGloop lol 19:43 vicscandl hahahahha 19:43 NickNameGoesHere what 19:43 vicscandl exactly 19:43 NickNameGoesHere I've been here before 19:44 vicscandl huh? 19:44 NickNameGoesHere Trust me 19:44 vicscandl how is that relevant? 19:44 NickNameGoesHere Idk 19:44 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zrpleeeYb4&feature=related 524 19:45 NickNameGoesHere That was random 19:45 NickNameGoesHere and annoying 19:45 vicscandl Jeija: whoop! will update my copy later tonight... tickets at work, getting default mods to not spam debug due to api change.. :) 19:46 NekoGloop It's matryoshka 19:46 NekoGloop get over it 19:46 Jeija :) Just in case the new version doesn't work, you can still use the stable http://mesecons.ohost.de/ 19:46 NekoGloop awesome song 19:46 FreeFull NekoGloop: I definitely would kiss you if you wanted it 19:46 NekoGloop HELL NO 19:47 NickNameGoesHere Don't try to post that spam debug here. 19:47 NekoGloop FreeFull: HELL NO 19:47 NickNameGoesHere This was a discussion between Neko, RBA, and the late _2cool4me4_ yesterday 19:48 NekoGloop Thought you were 2cool 19:48 NickNameGoesHere Shhh 19:48 NekoGloop :D 19:48 NickNameGoesHere :/ 19:48 vicscandl NekoGloop: his ip already gave him up 19:48 NekoGloop HE'S 2COOL4ME4 :D 19:48 * FreeFull kisses tripod 19:49 NickNameGoesHere I got un K-lined then! 19:49 NickNameGoesHere Let's celebrate! 19:50 NickNameGoesHere Was it something I said? 19:50 NekoGloop no you spammed the same message too much 19:50 NickNameGoesHere yeah... 19:50 NickNameGoesHere And then I got hit with a K-bar 19:51 NickNameGoesHere Anything interesting happen here? 19:51 NekoGloop nope 19:52 NickNameGoesHere oh... 19:53 NekoGloop I've been harrassed by tripod, if you missed that 19:53 NickNameGoesHere I think I was here for that 19:53 NekoGloop ok 19:53 NickNameGoesHere Remember? I slapped him 19:54 NickNameGoesHere like this: 19:54 * NickNameGoesHere slaps NekoGloop with a 4r8a9i11n13b17o26w trout 19:54 NekoGloop >.> 19:54 NekoGloop her* 19:54 NickNameGoesHere my bad 19:54 NickNameGoesHere Interesting... 19:54 NekoGloop I have none lol 19:55 NickNameGoesHere you're on webchat 19:55 NekoGloop i know 19:55 NekoGloop brb 19:55 NickNameGoesHere and now, so do I 19:55 * NickHere[A] is now away - Reason : I'm going away 19:56 NekoGloop There we go 19:57 NekoGloop :P 19:57 NekoGloop anyone there now lol 19:59 NekoGloop did he just leave as I left? 20:00 vicscandl music: http://divbyzero.de/va.pls ... its using samples from the movie pi... frikin hawt 20:00 NekoGloop lol 20:00 vicscandl ... if you grab any series of numbers, a pattern emerges ... 20:00 NekoGloop kewl 20:01 vicscandl the office is forced to have me be the dj 20:01 vicscandl sucks to be them 20:01 NekoGloop LOL 20:01 vicscandl last time we hired, i had 3 of 15 quit because i was playing cliqhop for like 12h straight 20:02 NekoGloop LOLOLOLOL 20:02 vicscandl rule here is this; if you don't like my music, buy better headphones 20:03 vicscandl cool thing for them is that they know when i'm around... 20:03 NekoGloop lol 20:05 NekoGloop WE 20:05 NekoGloop NEED 20:05 NekoGloop A 20:05 NekoGloop BETTER 20:05 NekoGloop MOBS 20:05 NekoGloop MOD 20:05 NekoGloop there I said it 20:07 NekoGloop oh my god my tools are gonna be so OP 20:07 NekoGloop Large Mithril Sword is gonna wipe the floor with anyone 20:07 NekoGloop good thing it's not exactly easy to craft lol 20:08 NickHere[A] I'm sure that's true 20:08 NekoGloop well large is 2x the normal item's stats 20:09 NekoGloop and also uses... 9 ingots 20:10 NekoGloop (large sword uses 9) 20:10 NickNameGoesHere Of what? 20:10 NekoGloop of its material 20:11 NekoGloop large wood sword uses 9 wood and 2 sticks 20:11 NekoGloop large mithril sword uses 9 mithril ingots and 2 sticks 20:11 NekoGloop etc. 20:11 NickNameGoesHere You know what's cool? 20:12 NekoGloop ? 20:12 NekoGloop no i do not 20:12 NekoGloop so tell me 20:12 NickNameGoesHere I'm using windows speech recognition to chat right now 20:12 NekoGloop LOL 20:12 NekoGloop i would need a mic for that 20:12 NickNameGoesHere I have a headset microphone 20:12 NekoGloop i would need a headset 20:13 NickNameGoesHere That's not true 20:13 NekoGloop :P 20:13 NickNameGoesHere You could use a regular microphone. 20:13 NekoGloop i dare you to try to make a emoticon using windows speech recognition 20:14 NickNameGoesHere :-) 20:15 NickNameGoesHere Like that? 20:15 NekoGloop nice 20:15 NekoGloop took ya long enough ;) 20:15 NickNameGoesHere I know 20:15 * NekoGloop kicks NickNameGoesHere 20:16 NickNameGoesHere I couldn't put the parentheses in 20:16 NekoGloop then use a 3 20:16 NekoGloop :3 20:17 NickNameGoesHere Sorry I didn't think of that. 20:17 NickNameGoesHere This is exasperating 20:17 NickNameGoesHere But I can spell much better this way 20:17 NekoGloop lol 20:18 * NickNameGoesHere stops using speech recognition 20:20 NickNameGoesHere The ping threshold is very large around here 20:21 NekoGloop yup 20:23 NekoGloop Large Gold Pick... so OP 20:23 NickNameGoesHere What's it made of? 20:23 NekoGloop Gold 20:23 NekoGloop uhm... 20:23 NickNameGoesHere lol 20:23 NickNameGoesHere But gold IS a very soft metal 20:23 NekoGloop 7 gold 4 sticks 20:24 sdzen and a wood pick would break before you got cobblestone 20:24 NekoGloop lol didnt see you there 20:25 sdzen hopping into conversation at inopportune times 20:25 NekoGloop LOL 20:25 NekoGloop if you were waiting for the opportune moment... that was it. 20:25 NekoGloop - Capt. Jack Sparrow 20:26 NekoGloop is there anything that actually has {crumbly=1} lol 20:26 NickNameGoesHere What does crumbly do? 20:26 NekoGloop dirt etc. 20:26 NekoGloop it's a group 20:27 NekoGloop dirt and gravel have it in vanilla 20:27 NickNameGoesHere it's the things that fall then? 20:27 NekoGloop nonono 20:27 NekoGloop that's {falling_node=1} 20:27 NickNameGoesHere oh 20:27 NekoGloop {crumbly=#} is used for making sure shovels mine it faster 20:27 NickNameGoesHere ohhhh 20:27 NekoGloop (or mine it at all) 20:28 NekoGloop cracky is for stone etc., and choppy is for wood etc. 20:28 NickNameGoesHere there's two of them! 20:28 NekoGloop The other neko hath arrived :D 20:29 NickNameGoesHere what does he do? 20:29 NekoGloop mod 20:29 NekoGloop come to the channel then not speak a word 20:29 NickNameGoesHere other neko is boring 20:30 NekoGloop yes he is :D 20:31 NekoGloop random xyz ragequit? 20:31 NekoGloop LOL 20:31 NickNameGoesHere whatever happened to the /spawn command? 20:31 NekoGloop i think its only in a certain mod 20:31 NickNameGoesHere I see 20:31 NekoGloop of which i dont have 20:32 NickNameGoesHere I should get the sethome mod. 20:32 NekoGloop yes you should :D 20:32 NekoGloop because its EPICZ 20:32 NickNameGoesHere why, is that yours? 20:32 NekoGloop nope 20:32 NekoGloop it's thexyz's if I'm not utterly mistaken 20:32 NickNameGoesHere I seem to be out of the group without Lua knowledge 20:33 NekoGloop then get some 20:33 NekoGloop :D 20:33 NekoGloop not that hard 20:33 NekoGloop just dont reference lua_api.txt, it's old and deprecated. Like all the old and deprecated functions in it 20:34 vicscandl Jeija: submitted ticket to your github 20:36 NekoGloop augh 20:36 NickNameGoesHere what did you do now 20:36 NekoGloop can someone help me make a lua loop to register a sh*tload of tools and crafts? 20:37 NickNameGoesHere Shouldn't we be told that we are being logged? 20:37 NekoGloop ? 20:37 NickNameGoesHere logging bot in the nick list 20:37 NakedFury you mean in irc? 20:37 NickNameGoesHere yep 20:38 NakedFury ok 20:38 NakedFury this chat is being logged 20:38 thexyz doesn't its name tell it? 20:38 NekoGloop well anyone with half a mind knows "loggingbot" logs the channel >.> 20:38 NickNameGoesHere But I've only got the quarter :( 20:38 NakedFury I dont see anything bad with it 20:38 NickNameGoesHere Neither do I 20:38 NekoGloop that way if I do something really stupid i can look back in the log 20:39 NekoGloop and laugh at the stupidity of others 20:39 * NickHere[A] is now away - Reason : Mehunger 20:39 NekoGloop he hungers. 20:44 * NickNameGoesHere is no longer away : Gone for 4 minutes 25 seconds 20:44 * sdzen was never away: Gone for -10 minutes -2 seconds 20:45 NickNameGoesHere o.o 20:45 jin_xi >_> 20:46 NekoGloop I AM 3 SETS OF TOOLS AWAY FROM BEING DONE!!!!!! 20:47 * sdzen sends virus 20:47 NekoGloop lol ya right 20:49 NekoGloop Can someone help me make a lua loop for registering a sh*tload of tools and crafts? 20:50 jin_xi NekoGloop: probably 20:50 NekoGloop ... 20:51 NekoGloop take that as a no 20:51 NakedFury lua loop? 20:52 NekoGloop similar to moreores' definition cycle 20:52 NakedFury copy it and include it in credits and stuff? 20:52 NekoGloop -similar- not -exactly like- 20:53 NekoGloop I want tools not ores 20:55 thexyz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2801 20:55 NekoGloop IceChat is a retard with links >.> 20:56 NickNameGoesHere yep 20:56 NekoGloop thexyz: link that again please 20:57 NakedFury nice post 20:57 NekoGloop ... 20:57 NakedFury I want to overhaul minetest so give me ideas 20:57 NakedFury that sounds like ke eg a n 20:58 vicscandl NakedFury: no kidding; um, read the forum you *just* posted on... duh 20:59 NickNameGoesHere who posted that thexyz? 20:59 NakedFury Kacey 20:59 NickNameGoesHere -_- 20:59 NickNameGoesHere Should we troll them? 20:59 jin_xi allmyfucks.jpg 21:00 NickNameGoesHere Who wants to troll Kacey? 21:00 thexyz jin_xi: any updates on "painting" mod? 21:01 NakedFury now that is a great outside the box thinking idea mod 21:01 NakedFury has celeron seen it or commented about it? 21:02 NickNameGoesHere Not yet 21:02 NickNameGoesHere oh, the mod 21:02 NickNameGoesHere my bad 21:03 jin_xi thexyz: no... 21:03 thexyz =( 21:04 jin_xi i tried to work on it again only to get frustrated 21:04 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 21:04 thexyz why? 21:04 jin_xi sometimes seemingly easy stuff turns out to be impossible... 21:04 thexyz what stuff? 21:05 jin_xi tried making mod work with resolution only dependent on painting, not global setting 21:05 jin_xi so i make canvas_32 and canvas_16 21:05 jin_xi so much data juggling from the node (easel) to the entity... 21:07 jin_xi also i tend to code before i think 21:07 jin_xi nasty habit 21:08 thexyz the stranges thing for me is that you use 3-space identation 21:08 jin_xi its emacs. i dont care 21:08 jin_xi but 3 seems odd 21:10 thexyz isn't it configurable? 21:10 jin_xi probably 21:13 jin_xi ok, using 2 spaces in the future. thanks for the hint 21:23 vicscandl http://youtu.be/TQU2IyF2lKI 21:23 saschaheylik_ wow. 21:25 cy1 yeah, not watching that vicscandl 21:25 saschaheylik_ this is #minetest 21:25 saschaheylik_ can u be more off topic? 21:26 NekoGloop yes 21:26 cy1 brb, writing a boulder tooth mod 21:26 NekoGloop dsnjiaosdjkldjksaldfjskalvjfieoabuivaebjpvxczn,bndafbdaeuiobajvcozhguifodhailgdfkfdsa 21:26 NekoGloop more off-topic ^ 21:28 vicscandl saschaheylik_: its on topic, its how i feel about working on the c++ code... 21:28 vicscandl so there... 21:40 * VanessaE wanders in 21:40 VanessaE hi 21:40 saschaheylik_ yo 21:57 NakedFury star trek time 21:59 * NekoGloop kicks VanessaE 21:59 VanessaE ow. 21:59 NekoGloop stop wandering :D 21:59 * VanessaE falls over, dead 21:59 * NekoGloop eats the carcass 22:00 * VanessaE has the bones mod internally, you can't pick at anything for 2 hours :) 22:01 * NekoGloop gets a hacked client (not really) 22:02 * NekoGloop picks up the bones ;) 22:03 NekoGloop Well that F10 was surprisingly unproductive. :D 22:04 NekoGloop VanessaE: Idea for a mod: Jungle tree spawning again 22:04 NekoGloop you have more experience with that kinda thing than I'll ever have. 22:14 VanessaE I'll think about it 22:22 leo_rockway hola 22:22 leo_rockway oops 22:22 leo_rockway hi* 22:22 leo_rockway why was the jungle biome removed? 22:22 VanessaE it was "boring" 22:22 VanessaE (as if a desert is any less so) 22:22 leo_rockway yes, that was going to be my reply 22:32 leo_rockway oh, ads changed in YT, actually 22:33 leo_rockway now you get to pick watching an ad before the video or during the video, like a commercial break. 22:33 leo_rockway o.0 22:33 VanessaE AdblockPlus FTW :-) 22:34 leo_rockway yeah, I know. This is my work's computer so I don't install stuff on it... usually. 22:34 leo_rockway it's windows crap 22:34 leo_rockway I just installed adblock anyway 22:34 VanessaE AdblockPlus is a firefox add-on 22:34 VanessaE if you can keep bookmarks and other browser datga, you can install add-ons I'm sure :-) 22:35 VanessaE data* 22:35 leo_rockway I'm not even supposed to install Firefox, hehe. 22:35 VanessaE but now you know that :D 22:35 leo_rockway I use adblock at home. 22:47 RealBadAngel adblock really helps 22:48 NekoGloop adblock eats your mind 22:48 RealBadAngel i install it on any computer i am, even not mind ;) 22:48 RealBadAngel *not mine 22:50 RealBadAngel brr 22:55 jin_xi hmm 22:57 * jin_xi still burns the midnight lamp 23:09 NekoGloop oh god no not... O hi there 23:10 Keegan_ hi 23:10 Keegan_ m gonna complie 0.4.2 r1 after i eat dinner 23:12 Keegan_ so someone is gonna help me 23:20 sdzen yes his mother will 23:39 Keegann who knows how to complie wndows 0.4.2 23:40 NekoGloop uhm... 23:40 NekoGloop there's a run in place version 23:40 NekoGloop on the blog :P 23:40 Keegann whats the lnk? 23:41 NekoGloop it's the blog :P 23:41 NekoGloop http://c55.me/blog/ 23:41 Keegann ok mr. helpful 23:44 bulletrulz hey guys i have a qeastion 23:44 Keegann is it already complied? 23:44 bulletrulz can someone upload 3dfurniture to a http website foe me? 23:44 NekoGloop Uhm... duh? 23:45 NekoGloop It's how I got it, and it's a -run in place- version >.> 23:45 frogcrush @keegan yes 23:46 frogcrush sorry, 2 n's 23:46 bulletrulz please i really want that mod 23:47 frogcrush what mod? 23:47 bulletrulz 3dfurticture 23:47 frogcrush If you are looking for 3D funiture, the link is on the forum 23:47 frogcrush its 23:47 frogcrush https://github.com/tony-ka/tonyka-minetest-mods/zipball/master 23:48 frogcrush Just though that in /mods/minetest 23:48 frogcrush the 3dfuniture folder, not the guide folder 23:48 bulletrulz frogcrush i cannot go on https sites 23:48 frogcrush k 23:49 frogcrush jas 23:50 frogcrush http://tylorstech.com/3d_funiture_1_0.zip 23:50 bulletrulz ty 23:50 frogcrush np 23:53 frogcrush If you don't mind me asking, what is stopping you from accessing HTTPS sites?