Time  Nick         Message
00:25 SegFault22   hey Bad_Command, are you online?
00:26 SegFault22   -.-
00:52 SegFault22   hello?
00:52 Tekk_        hi
00:52 NakedFury    damn my connection today
00:52 SegFault22   :P
00:52 SegFault22   is Bad_Command afk?
00:52 Tekk_        considering how he still hasn't answered you, yes
00:52 SegFault22   I want to play on the gameboom server but he's afk :P
00:53 SegFault22   and I need privs
00:53 SegFault22   all I can do is wait now...
00:53 SegFault22   or is it...
01:06 MineTestUser Are any devs/admins here?
01:07 Tekk_        I run a server
01:07 MineTestUser That's not exactly what I needed ;)
01:07 MineTestUser But I have the soluution to the plagarism half-problem
01:19 MineTestUser anyone have a 0.4.2 server running?
01:19 Tekk_        yes
01:20 MineTestUser ip?
01:20 Tekk_        not public
01:20 MineTestUser ohhkay
01:25 Tekk_        thefinn93: terve
01:25 thefinn93    eh?
01:26 Tekk_        well that was an easy way to check if you were finnish..
01:27 Dan68        lol
01:27 Dan68        I can see thefinn93 from where I'm sitting
01:27 thefinn93    ah yeah no
01:27 Dan68        thefinn93
01:27 Dan68        thefinn93
01:27 Dan68        thefinn93
01:27 Dan68        thefinn93
01:27 Dan68        thefinn93
01:27 Dan68        lololol
01:28 Dan68        it makes a klaxon sound every time I say his name
01:28 Dan68        thefinn93
01:28 MineTestUser You spammed him so much he left!
01:28 Dan68        lolyep
01:28 Dan68        well I am sitting 1ft from him
01:28 MineTestUser uhh
01:29 MineTestUser do you have any experience with mesecons?
01:29 Dan68        mesecons?
01:29 Tekk_        what do you need to do?
01:29 Tekk_        I've done a tiny bit of mesecons, more redstone
01:30 MineTestUser Trying to make an automatic door shutter, but a door just got pushed out of the way, and blocks get pushed IN the way when I activate the circuit
01:32 Dan68        :C
01:32 MineTestUser That's not helpful :/
01:32 Tekk_        MineTestUser: use a real door
01:32 Tekk_        put a pressure plate inside
01:32 MineTestUser Done
01:35 MineTestUser Sorry guys, I have to go
01:40 SegFault22   -.-
01:42 SegFault22   hey Bad_Command, are you online?
02:06 NekoGloop    Ohai crab of the red
05:38 NakedFury    any forum admin on?
05:39 NakedFury    forum moron alert. mallot1 spammed the same topic on all sections
05:40 Tekk_        what the hell
05:40 Tekk_        I thought you were exaggerating
05:40 NakedFury    I wish
05:40 NakedFury    I dont know why but I got instantly pissed, I had just cleared all sections with Mark forum as read
05:42 NakedFury    all cleared again
06:47 SegFault22   Hey Bad_Command, are you online?
06:48 SegFault22   -.-
06:48 sfan5        no
06:49 SegFault22   why is he logged in here, if he is not here?
06:49 SegFault22   that makes no sense.
06:49 sfan5        i have that too
06:49 sfan5        when i log off from my bouncer my nick turns to "sfan5|OFF"
06:49 sfan5        but i'm still there
06:50 sfan5        maybe bad_cmd has the same but without changing nick
08:17 sfan5        4bit decoder with mesecons: http://i.imgur.com/8fHOm.png
08:28 jin_xi_      cool
08:40 cornernote_  hey
08:43 Calinou      lol
08:43 Calinou      looks like pee fountains, lmao
08:48 jin_xi_      whats up? i have updated painting mod. it uses only one entity for drawing now
08:50 sfan5        thats good
09:36 cornernote_  jin_xi - the free painting is replacing the canvas painting mod ?
09:41 cornernote_  i see some 3d mobs now... looks exciting
09:44 jin_xi_      its now direct on canvas painting, still working on good ui for selecting colors
09:50 cornernote   can it draw on non-canvas blocks ?
09:51 jin_xi_      no
09:51 jin_xi_      that would be the graffitti mod
09:52 cornernote   there is a graffiti mod ?
09:52 cornernote   wouldnt be too hard to change your mod.. just have a transparent canvas ?
09:52 jin_xi_      no ;)
09:53 jin_xi_      n only change textures on the fly with those
09:53 jin_xi_      oops
09:53 jin_xi_      you'd need to put up entities
09:53 cornernote   entity = like a node/item ?
09:55 jin_xi_      entities can change textures
09:55 jin_xi_      thats why
09:56 cornernote   the canvas has entities...
09:56 cornernote   when you punch with the brush, perhaps it could auto-add the transparent canvas (which is the entities and allows the texture to be changed)
09:57 cornernote   what resolution is the painting texture?  32x or 64x ?  or other ?
09:57 jin_xi_      its at 16x16 now, but that could be set higher.
09:58 jin_xi_      next step is to work with different resolutions on an per image base
09:59 jin_xi_      then image format should be stable and ready for 1.0
09:59 cornernote   nice
09:59 jin_xi_      problem is, client leaks generated textures.
10:00 jin_xi_      one generated for every step of the drawing process...
10:00 cornernote   leaks ?
10:00 cornernote   oh
10:00 jin_xi_      never frees them
10:00 cornernote   so theres tunza textures generated
10:00 cornernote   oh, and fills ram
10:00 cornernote   ok
10:00 jin_xi_      thats the problem with this approach.
10:01 jin_xi_      but it seems better than to place 256 entities at once
11:21 jin_xi_      morning adam!
11:23 PilzAdam     good morning!
12:13 RealBadAngel ABMs can run in intervals of >=1s or can be called more frequent?
12:14 RealBadAngel changin interval doesnt seem to work, looks like 1s is minimum
12:14 PilzAdam     0 is minimum
12:14 VanessaE     probably better you should use on_globalstep if you need something that frequent.
12:15 RealBadAngel globalstep is like tick in minecraft?
12:16 PilzAdam     globalstep is about 0.25 sec.
12:16 VanessaE     "minetest.register_globalstep(func(dtime))
12:16 VanessaE     ^ Called every server step, usually interval of 0.05s"
12:16 RealBadAngel @PilzAdam: changed interval to many values <1 and it always works like it was set to 1
12:17 RealBadAngel 1/20th of sec, so very same as 1 tick in MC
13:29 VanessaE     two nekos?  oh G*d. :-)
13:30 NekoGloop    :3
13:30 NekoGloop    omg i'm mod on this server
13:30 * VanessaE   grabs a bottle of bitter apple spray, just in case >:-)
13:31 NekoGloop    D:
13:31 Calinou      http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=36021#p36021
13:31 Calinou      mikeeusa, version minetest
13:31 Calinou      that guy keeps spamming "AMG GENERATE_ORE BORING LIKE UR MOM"
13:31 Calinou      that's why I'll never use his so-called ore generation
13:32 Calinou      uniform distribution FTW and will always be
13:33 NekoGloop    :3
13:35 NekoGloop    Oh, right, the person who makes a spawn house got mod
13:36 VanessaE     personally I wish sda97 would make something unique instead of re-inventing everyone else's mods
13:41 NekoGloop    Someone help me with mesecons?
13:41 VanessaE     what help?
13:41 NekoGloop    I want to circulate a block using pistons.
13:42 NekoGloop    How would I delay the signal?
13:42 VanessaE     use a mesecons delayer :-)
13:42 NekoGloop    That didnt work,
13:42 NekoGloop    Blinky Plants arent helping...
13:43 VanessaE     did you set the delay?
13:43 VanessaE     (punch the node)
13:43 NekoGloop    I set it, but it didnt change anything
13:43 VanessaE     odd, I've played around with them a bit and the delay change is noticablew
13:43 VanessaE     -w
13:43 NekoGloop    Excuse me while I place fire blocks on trees to exert my rage
13:44 VanessaE     hah
13:45 NekoGloop    Why do mesecons not affect your homedecor doors?
13:46 VanessaE     mesecons doors are the only ones affected by mesecons
13:46 VanessaE     they won't affect 'normal' doors either
13:47 VanessaE     plus it never occurred to me to let the doors move in response to a mesecons signal :-0
13:47 VanessaE     :-)
13:47 NekoGloop    Now you can make them do that :3
13:47 NekoGloop    And what mesecon doors?
13:47 NekoGloop    Pistons?
13:47 NekoGloop    Like the one I have? :3
13:47 VanessaE     no
13:48 VanessaE     there was a door added to mesecons in jeija's github repos
13:49 VanessaE     https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/commit/7d944d5a338fc74935d55639db0ce019bbd93cd3
13:51 NekoGloop    I have a lava door :3
13:52 VanessaE     using a piston to block a lava floe? :-)
13:53 NekoGloop    Yes :3
13:53 NekoGloop    two pistons actually
13:55 NekoGloop    My inventory is derping -_-
13:57 VanessaE     heh
14:03 NekoGloop    Wanna see my lava door, VanessaE?
14:04 VanessaE     screenshot?
14:04 NekoGloop    No, it's on a server :3
14:04 NekoGloop    minetest.freedns.in:30000
14:04 VanessaE     maybe later
14:06 NekoGloop    omg giant lava flow
14:09 Calinou      NekoGloop, version? what mosd?
14:09 Calinou      oh 0.4.2
14:09 NekoGloop    Duh
14:09 NekoGloop    And it has a lot of mods
14:09 NekoGloop    0.4.2-rc1 :3
14:09 Calinou      animals?
14:10 NekoGloop    no
14:11 VanessaE     wonder how well the latest 3d animals performs
14:11 VanessaE     (and what's with this "abusing the wield image"?
14:11 Calinou      ^
14:14 jin_xi_      well, if you hold eg a chair, it'll be rendered 3d, and stays this way when you throw it
14:15 jin_xi_      -> 3d models...
14:16 Calinou      ^ do animals spin?
14:16 Calinou      lol
14:17 jin_xi_      they don't but that is why they are not fixed to axis (set_yaw())
14:17 Calinou      haha cool
14:19 PilzAdam     he 3D animals were my invention
14:19 PilzAdam     Calinou: and you laught at me
14:20 jin_xi_      yeah its a nifty idea
14:20 MineTestUser Anyone on an online server?
14:20 VanessaE     interesting idea
14:20 NekoGloop    Minetestuser, come to minetest.freedns.in
14:20 Calinou      PilzAdam, sue jin_xi_ for software patents
14:20 Calinou      ;)
14:20 NekoGloop    on port 30000
14:20 MineTestUser 0.4.1 or 0.4.2?
14:21 jin_xi_      huh?
14:21 PilzAdam     Calinou: to late i wrote "License: WTFPL"
14:21 PilzAdam     :)
14:21 Calinou      lol
14:21 * Calinou    compiles his mod, releases it under copyright + EULA agreement to accept before use of the mod
14:22 thexyz       does anybody know when celeron is planning to return?
14:22 MineTestUser And everyone is happy!
14:22 Calinou      "and everyone is fapping" < what I actually read
14:22 MineTestUser *backs away*
14:23 PilzAdam     thexyz: The last thing i noticed from him was this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=35148#p35148
14:24 thexyz       oh, nice page he has there
14:38 VanessaE     thexyz: he is at Assembly right now, or was on Friday anyway
14:55 NekoGloop    Meow~ :3
14:56 VanessaE     meo**yawn**w...
14:58 VanessaE     bbl
15:00 Calinou      VanessaE, huh?
15:01 NekoGloop    She yawned in the middle of a meow and then said she'll be back later
16:16 RealBadAngel well, i finished codin some cool stuff :) take a look guys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IVt73l1gMM
16:31 PilzAdam     RealBadAngel: Whats the difference between your mod an mesecons?
16:33 RealBadAngel fundamental
16:33 RealBadAngel mesecons are signals
16:33 RealBadAngel 0 or 1
16:33 RealBadAngel its logic stuff
16:33 PilzAdam     yes
16:33 RealBadAngel my system is energy based
16:34 RealBadAngel you have to produce energy, store it
16:34 RealBadAngel then you can use it
16:34 PilzAdam     k
16:34 PilzAdam     but do you need this if you have mesecons
16:34 PilzAdam     ?
16:34 RealBadAngel i dont have mesecons
16:35 RealBadAngel and furnace is just a first step to more complex machinery
16:35 RealBadAngel once i have functional power system
16:35 PilzAdam     users can decide wether they want your mod or mesecons
16:35 RealBadAngel of course
16:35 PilzAdam     why should they use your mod?
16:35 RealBadAngel i can even use mesecons to control my machines
16:35 RealBadAngel since mesecons are for it
16:36 RealBadAngel logic and control
16:36 Calinou      RealBadAngel, btw, about your pack
16:36 Calinou      you took some textures from LB's pack (made by scuttles)
16:36 Calinou      I suggest giving credit at least :p
16:36 RealBadAngel i wrote that
16:36 RealBadAngel and im removing textures i borrowed
16:37 RealBadAngel theres like 15-20 of them left now
16:37 PilzAdam     RealBadAngel: why should users use your energy mod?
16:37 RealBadAngel its not just energy mod
16:37 RealBadAngel it will add lot of technic stuff
16:38 RealBadAngel like my chests, furnaces, macerators
16:38 NekoGloop    I might download it when you edit that post to contain an overview of it all :3
16:38 RealBadAngel nuclear reactors
16:38 RealBadAngel bore machines
16:38 RealBadAngel lots of them to come :)
16:39 PilzAdam     But why do you create a new energy system and dont use mesecons as base?
16:39 RealBadAngel because ITS LOGIC
16:39 RealBadAngel not power system
16:39 NekoGloop    Mesecons = logic
16:39 NekoGloop    RBA's mod = redundant
16:39 * NekoGloop  trolololo's off
16:40 RealBadAngel seen electricity mods and redstone in minecraft?
16:40 PilzAdam     nope
16:40 RealBadAngel they coexist
16:40 RealBadAngel because they do different stuff
16:41 RealBadAngel in real life you dont power your machines with 0/1 signals :P
16:41 PilzAdam     0/1 signals are 0V / 5V signals but i get what u want to say
16:41 RealBadAngel but you can turn it on with 0/1
16:42 NekoGloop    At least make a converter to make your power convert to mesecons signal
16:42 RealBadAngel no way
16:42 PilzAdam     so you can call your mod a "realistic" mesecon mod?
16:42 RealBadAngel turn ur 220V to 0/1 signal ;)
16:42 RealBadAngel no
16:42 RealBadAngel its not logic mod
16:42 NekoGloop    This is the stupidest mod i've ever seen... at least mine is a new idea
16:43 NekoGloop    well, it's more blocks anyhow
16:43 PilzAdam     you *can* do logic stuff with energy
16:43 RealBadAngel its about power and machines
16:43 RealBadAngel not logic gates
16:44 RealBadAngel if you cannot see the difference between electricity and logic signal....
16:44 NekoGloop    And I can make mesecons make macines :3
16:45 PilzAdam     in mesecons you have a 1 signal on a machine and the machine works. In your mod you need a minimum voltage to work?
16:45 RealBadAngel so store your 0 and 1 in batteries, and use them to cook somethin
16:45 RealBadAngel its soooo logical ;)
16:45 NekoGloop    I will. Let me make a mod for mesecon addons :3
16:45 RealBadAngel do it :)
16:46 RealBadAngel its a free will for all of us to make somethin or to use somethin
16:46 PilzAdam     in mesecons you have a 1 signal on a machine and the machine works. In your mod you need a minimum voltage to work?
16:46 RealBadAngel machines have power usage over time
16:47 RealBadAngel power lines provide power but with losses
16:47 RealBadAngel you can store energy in battery packs
16:47 RealBadAngel or transport it with portable devices
16:48 NekoGloop    only thing I'll use this mod for: if it can auto-mine, make a cobble generator with whatever that mod for lava making cobble is. Lotsa cobble :3
16:48 RealBadAngel solar panels also produce energy, not just on/off when theres light there
16:48 RealBadAngel you need at least 3 solar panels to power one furnace
16:50 NekoGloop    Give it a sh*tload of more functionality, and I'll try
16:50 PilzAdam     so the differences to mesecons: 1. the strenght decreases on "transport"  2. the energy input devices provide not endless energy  3. the machines wear this energy out
16:51 NekoGloop    So mesecons > energy mod
16:52 RealBadAngel you know the difference between 0/1 signal and 220V in your power socket at home?
16:52 RealBadAngel its exactly the difference
16:52 PilzAdam     RealBadAngel: so your mod is a realistic mesecon mod: if you build a computer in mesecons u have to use only one plant; in your mod u have to use a lot of plants
16:53 RealBadAngel man, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO with mesecons at all
16:53 PilzAdam     you missunderstand me
16:53 RealBadAngel i can even use mesecons to switch my machines on/off
16:53 RealBadAngel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGUsxGrqmZM&list=PL0356053BA45C3464&index=11&feature=plpp_video
16:53 RealBadAngel take a look on it
16:53 RealBadAngel you will understand where my mod is goin
16:53 RealBadAngel and will stop comparing it to mesecons
16:54 NekoGloop    "IT HAS NOTHING TO DO with mesecons at all" "i can even use mesecons" Dafuq?
16:54 RealBadAngel because mesecons r control stuff
16:54 RealBadAngel look at video above
16:54 NekoGloop    lol you dont realise youtube lags minetest to hell do you?
16:55 RealBadAngel its not minetest video :P
16:55 RealBadAngel its minecraft's Idustrial Craft mod
16:55 NekoGloop    youtube lags minetest
16:56 RealBadAngel hmmm, you watch videos in ur irc client?
16:56 RealBadAngel interesting ;)
16:56 PilzAdam     i KNOW the difference between logic and energy
16:56 RealBadAngel so why youre attackin me?
16:58 NekoGloop    because its fun :3
16:58 RealBadAngel lol
16:59 RealBadAngel in minecraft even there are two logic systems
16:59 RealBadAngel redstone and redpower
16:59 RealBadAngel they coexist, even redpower is hell better than redstone
17:01 PilzAdam     sry
17:01 PilzAdam     interntet fail
17:03 PilzAdam     RealBadAngel: you can build logical circuits with electricity and you can build logical circuits with your mod. So let me compare it to mesecons
17:03 RealBadAngel no
17:03 RealBadAngel you cannot build logic circuits with power lines for christ sake
17:03 RealBadAngel lololololol
17:03 Tekk_        but mesecons carries power indefinitely too
17:03 Tekk_        so what's the advantage?
17:03 RealBadAngel no
17:04 RealBadAngel they DONT CARRY any power
17:04 RealBadAngel just logic signals
17:04 PilzAdam     u can understand a logical signal as power
17:04 RealBadAngel lol again
17:04 PilzAdam     in our computer it is 5V
17:04 RealBadAngel even ROTFL
17:04 * Tekk_      had no idea that lightbulbs ran on logic signals
17:04 Tekk_        :P
17:05 RealBadAngel but in mesecons they do run on it
17:05 Tekk_        RealBadAngel: so then. what exactly is the advantage of using power over a logical signal?
17:05 RealBadAngel even mesecon torch can light a bulb :)
17:05 RealBadAngel stand up and go to your fridge
17:05 RealBadAngel or washin machine
17:06 RealBadAngel what the hell powers them?
17:06 RealBadAngel 0/1 signal?
17:06 Tekk_        mesecons, already, in minetest
17:06 Tekk_        if someone made them
17:06 PilzAdam     real computers have logical circuits. But they dont use mesecons, they use electricity. Your mod use electricity too, so i can build a computer with it.
17:06 Tekk_        mesecons is both a power source and a logical signal
17:06 Tekk_        ^ that
17:06 RealBadAngel my area of interest is to build machines that use real power
17:07 PilzAdam     I understand that
17:07 Tekk_        RealBadAngel: so works more slowly with less power, etc.
17:07 Tekk_        ?
17:07 RealBadAngel but eventually can be controlled by on/off signals from mesecons
17:07 RealBadAngel thats it
17:07 RealBadAngel when power drained, stops workin
17:07 PilzAdam     I only want u to understand that you can call your mod "real" mesecons
17:07 RealBadAngel simply as that
17:08 RealBadAngel i did???
17:08 RealBadAngel where, point me pls
17:08 Tekk_        yeah, everyone knows it should be called buildtest :P
17:08 RealBadAngel you did, sir :P
17:09 RealBadAngel i call it Technic mod
17:09 RealBadAngel with power, machines and stuff ;)
17:09 PilzAdam     but I see it as "real" mesecons
17:09 RealBadAngel lol
17:09 RealBadAngel you just make me laugh, you know?
17:10 RealBadAngel no offence tho
17:10 PilzAdam     why?
17:10 RealBadAngel because youre arguin like kid never put a finger into 220v socket
17:10 RealBadAngel and therefore dont know what power is
17:11 NekoGloop    lol I havent either but I know what power is.
17:11 PilzAdam     I study informatics
17:11 RealBadAngel i did too
17:11 RealBadAngel 20 yrs ago
17:11 PilzAdam     So you know u can see a 1 signal as 5V and a 0 singlan as 0V
17:12 RealBadAngel and those are mesecons
17:12 RealBadAngel and its ok
17:12 PilzAdam     so mesecons have voltage too
17:12 RealBadAngel cool stuff to make logic gates
17:12 PilzAdam     but its endless
17:12 RealBadAngel and control stuff for another builds
17:12 PilzAdam     so mesecon = endless energy; your mod = not endless energy
17:13 RealBadAngel i said once, take ur 5v signal and power even electric shaver :P
17:13 RealBadAngel mesecons are not energy :P
17:13 PilzAdam     reality = not endless energy => your mod is "real" mesecons
17:13 RealBadAngel lol again
17:14 RealBadAngel i will not provide ANY logic stuff with my power system
17:14 PilzAdam     you can also understand a 1 signal as 220V if you want
17:14 RealBadAngel even a single switch
17:14 RealBadAngel its not made for such stuff at all
17:14 PilzAdam     yes
17:15 RealBadAngel but i can power for example my macerator
17:15 Tekk_        PilzAdam: from what I can tell the main point of it is variable power
17:15 NekoGloop    needs to be a compass mod :3
17:15 RealBadAngel and use mesecon switch to turn it on/off
17:15 PilzAdam     I understand that
17:15 RealBadAngel later on all my machines will have pneumatic tube transport system
17:16 RealBadAngel you will call them also mesecons?
17:16 RealBadAngel i do technic stuff
17:16 RealBadAngel not logic
17:16 RealBadAngel period
17:17 PilzAdam     I understand what mesecons are and i understand what your mod wants to be
17:17 RealBadAngel so stop call it another mesecons
17:18 RealBadAngel it will never be even close to it
17:18 PilzAdam     u dont get what i try to explain u
17:18 PilzAdam     no offence
17:19 RealBadAngel youre tryin to tell me im doin mesecons
17:19 RealBadAngel while im not
17:19 PilzAdam     i dont
17:20 RealBadAngel so whats your point?
17:20 PilzAdam     You can make a furnace for mesecons, that works if you give a 1 signal to it
17:20 RealBadAngel completely bullshit
17:20 PilzAdam     You can make a furnace for your mod, that works if you give power to it
17:20 Tekk_        the only difference is htat you can run out of your power
17:20 Tekk_        in that case
17:21 PilzAdam     YES!!!
17:21 RealBadAngel not really
17:21 PilzAdam     Thats what I want to tell you
17:21 RealBadAngel to make my systems running you have to bulid your machines
17:21 RealBadAngel power networks
17:21 Tekk_        though it's not very fun to have mesecons powering a furnace
17:21 RealBadAngel build them up when u will need more power
17:21 Tekk_        where you don't have to worry about actually running out of fuel
17:22 RealBadAngel Not lightin a fuckin torch to make your machine run
17:22 PilzAdam     Tekk_ You understand why im calling it "real" mesecons?
17:22 RealBadAngel its completely bullshit
17:22 PilzAdam     please dont be aggressive
17:22 RealBadAngel sorry for that
17:23 RealBadAngel but thats true
17:23 PilzAdam     its ik
17:23 PilzAdam     *ok
17:23 RealBadAngel my mod is to b like i said very technic one
17:23 RealBadAngel resource dependant
17:24 PilzAdam     You can make a furnace in mesecons, that cooks if you turn mesecons next to it on. Right?
17:24 RealBadAngel to build your stuff you will need to dig a lot
17:24 RealBadAngel but then one day u will able to run for example very complex machine
17:24 RealBadAngel that will bore tunnels for you
17:25 RealBadAngel and just sit and look at ur creations
17:25 RealBadAngel automatic farms
17:25 RealBadAngel transport systems
17:25 RealBadAngel automatic sorting machines
17:25 PilzAdam     and for your things you have to work to get energy
17:25 RealBadAngel all powered by your power plants
17:26 RealBadAngel altough, power is not enough
17:26 RealBadAngel all complex systems will need logic
17:26 RealBadAngel so there will mesecons (like redstone) come
17:26 RealBadAngel to provide logic for my machinery
17:27 RealBadAngel now you get my point?
17:27 PilzAdam     yes i got it all the time
17:28 RealBadAngel and one more thing
17:28 RealBadAngel you can play with different mods at the time
17:28 RealBadAngel youre not bond to just one
17:29 RealBadAngel in MC ive played with like 30 mods
17:29 RealBadAngel complex ones
17:29 RealBadAngel building machines that consist of HUNDREDS of parts
17:29 RealBadAngel and actually do somethin is fun
17:30 PilzAdam     i understand your point, but i want you to understand my point too
17:30 RealBadAngel i got ur. theres furnace powered by torch. ur mod is obsolete
17:30 RealBadAngel :P
17:31 NekoGloop    STOP RANTING RANDOMLY
17:31 PilzAdam     In mesecon you dont have to care about energy or stuff like that. You just turn a switch on and everything works
17:32 RealBadAngel so, then its wrong
17:32 PilzAdam     In your mod you have to provide enough energy, like in real life
17:32 RealBadAngel yes
17:32 PilzAdam     whats wrong about mesecons?
17:32 RealBadAngel like powering a furnace with torch?
17:33 RealBadAngel but this one i think nothing
17:33 PilzAdam     you cant do the mesecon things in real life, because there is no endless energy
17:33 RealBadAngel so what for fooling around to dig coal and other stuff then?
17:34 RealBadAngel if you just can lit a torch?
17:34 RealBadAngel such ideas are bullshit
17:34 PilzAdam     but you can (theoretical) build the things from your mod in real life
17:35 PilzAdam     because it dont uses endless energy
17:35 RealBadAngel yes, and when you will need more energy
17:35 RealBadAngel you will be forced to look for other solutions
17:35 RealBadAngel another power sources
17:35 PilzAdam     so your mod is more "realistic" than mesecons
17:35 RealBadAngel geothermal, water
17:36 RealBadAngel nuclear
17:36 RealBadAngel and then again, with more power u will need better storage units
17:36 RealBadAngel better cables
17:36 PilzAdam     so your mod is more "realistic" than mesecons
17:36 RealBadAngel its so far away from mesecons as it could be
17:37 PilzAdam     but you can write the same machines in mesecon that you use inn your mod
17:37 PilzAdam     with endless energy
17:37 RealBadAngel but if some1 will do that i will call him man with no imagination and with childish behavior
17:37 RealBadAngel but the game is for all ages
17:38 RealBadAngel i can understand that
17:38 PilzAdam     so your mod is a more realistic mesecon mod
17:38 RealBadAngel no it isnt :P
17:38 RealBadAngel does mesecons have subspace linked networks of chests?
17:39 RealBadAngel so followin ur way, mesecons are worst version of technic mod :P
17:39 PilzAdam     not realistic dont mean word
17:39 PilzAdam     *worse
17:39 RealBadAngel it was sarcastic
17:39 thexyz       PilzAdam: what does "Make the cart 3D" mean?
17:40 PilzAdam     3D model
17:40 thexyz       wasn't they already 3d?
17:40 thexyz       cubes
17:40 PilzAdam     now they are more than cubes
17:40 RealBadAngel they were just cubes
17:40 thexyz       any screenshots?)
17:40 jin_xi_      oh cool
17:40 PilzAdam     like the chests in the early versions
17:41 thexyz       oh, nice
17:41 RealBadAngel next update will bring networking for mithril ones
17:41 PilzAdam     ill make some screenshots in the future
17:41 RealBadAngel and the chest part of mode will be finished
17:42 RealBadAngel i need tho way to get rubber in the game
17:42 RealBadAngel need rubber tree or something
17:42 PilzAdam     you mean condom rubber?
17:42 RealBadAngel since power cables r not carryin just 5v have to be isolated
17:43 jin_xi_      oh lol
17:43 PilzAdam     or gum rubber?
17:43 RealBadAngel youre just trollin :P
17:43 PilzAdam     :)
17:46 PilzAdam     is the a server online where everyone has build privs?
17:46 PilzAdam     *there
17:50 Calinou      PilzAdam, minetest.freedns.in port 30000
17:50 Calinou      build given by default
17:50 Calinou      0.4.2
17:50 PilzAdam     thx
17:50 thexyz       using 0.4.2 is BAD BAD idea
17:50 PilzAdam     its a good good idea
17:51 thexyz       or any modern version
17:51 thexyz       because fuck that things duplication bug
17:55 thexyz       btw, that items dup thing is extremly useful :P
17:58 jin_xi       wow, just updated carts and rode around in one. super
18:00 RealBadAngel it will b fixed sooner or later
18:00 thexyz       what?
18:00 RealBadAngel bug
18:00 thexyz       i've already posted a fix
18:00 RealBadAngel mc had many dupe glitches
18:00 thexyz       but don't know whether it is right
18:00 thexyz       seems to work for me
18:06 thexyz       interesting
18:06 thexyz       somebody still play on "stress test" server
18:13 NekoGloop    Yay you're all back :3
18:37 pagliaccio   hello
18:38 pagliaccio   i need a help for this mod
18:38 pagliaccio   http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2632
18:47 jin_xi       sry i never used sound in my modding
18:56 RealBadAngel me neither
19:01 NekoGloop    Meow~ :3
19:07 cy1          thexyz: which one is the stress test server?
19:07 NekoGloop    Port 30001
19:07 cy1          of....
19:07 cy1          gameboom?
19:07 NekoGloop    Of minetest.ru
19:08 cy1          ru?
19:08 cy1          OK thanx
19:08 cy1          I forgot ._.;
19:08 NekoGloop    It's thexyz's server, sorry, only saw that one line :3
19:08 cy1          yeah I play on the stress test port
19:08 cy1          just to screw around and stuff
19:08 cy1          not here to build things that's foolish :3
19:08 NekoGloop    Lol
19:09 NekoGloop    LAVAZ
19:10 cy1          seriously though, if I wanted to spend a few weeks working on my client side mapping and auto-building ideas it might get even harder to demolish stuff permanently
19:10 cy1          minetest.ru is still proto 11 :/
19:10 thexyz       right
19:10 cy1          :/
19:10 thexyz       most servers are 11
19:10 cy1          shaaaaaame
19:10 NekoGloop    Make it 0.4.2-rc1 and i'll come :P
19:10 cy1          look of disapproooooval
19:10 thexyz       later
19:10 thexyz       maybe..
19:11 cy1          no it's fine I hate those 0-day protocol updates
19:11 NekoGloop    minetest.freedns.in:30000 is 0.4.2-rc1
19:11 cy1          just not enough room on mah disk to keep 2 minetest builds
19:11 NekoGloop    My house is there :3
19:12 cy1          NekoGloop: that your evil chest stealing server? >:|
19:12 NekoGloop    I only did it that once...
19:12 NekoGloop    I'm on my ipad atm, i cant play minetest
19:13 cy1          Cut off his hands! Cut off his hands!
19:13 NekoGloop    Lock the chest i wont take anything. :3
19:13 cy1          noooooo
19:13 NekoGloop    How hard is that?
19:13 cy1          ipads are evil if they can't
19:13 NekoGloop    I could go on my computer :P
19:13 cy1          yeah but if it was on the ipad then you could play minetest whilst jogging
19:14 NekoGloop    I'd fall too f*cking much
19:25 cy1          Just noticed my server at verge.info.tm 6989 was down due to git being stupid about merging and fixed it.
19:26 Keegan_      hello finally created my own server but we need more people on every server so advertising will help.. post adds on facebook,twitter,youtube
19:26 thexyz       yes, yes, let's make users hate us
19:27 Keegan_      why
19:27 cy1          Keegan_: you are a braver soul than I. Where are you hosting?
19:27 cy1          "please advertise my server. oh by the way its address is nah they don't need to know that"
19:29 Keegan_      on each server there is a average of 2 people per server
19:38 Keegan_      who agrees to me for more people?
20:00 NekoGloop_   Meow~ :3
20:03 NekoGloop_   Old went bold :3
20:03 BoldCoder    Ha!
20:03 BoldCoder    Yes
20:03 NekoGloop_   :3
20:03 BoldCoder    ty
20:04 * NekoGloop_ wants to be petted :3
20:04 NekoGloop_   Meow~
20:04 * BoldCoder  pets
20:05 * NekoGloop_ purrs :3
20:19 NakedFury    hi guys
20:22 NekoGloop_   Hi fury of nakedness
20:25 cy1          fuck
20:25 cy1          git lost a ton of my code
20:25 cy1          again :(
20:27 thexyz       how could that happen?
20:27 cy1          I'm jynxed!
20:28 cy1          But it happened by me pulling from another minetest directory, which also contained a branch named "master"
20:28 cy1          git took my master branch, rolled it back to their common base, and then merged the files.
20:29 cy1          Then I did a merge --abort
20:29 cy1          Instead of returning me to my own master branch, it went to the master branch of that other directory, which is now master for both directories
20:29 cy1          discarding all changes in this directory
20:29 cy1          sort of like marty mcfly making out with his own mother
20:29 cy1          except git did it
20:30 MineTestUser Anyone know how to host a lan game?
20:30 cy1          uh, yes? Just point them at your LAN IP
20:30 VanessaE     run one copy of minetest as the server
20:31 VanessaE     have your friends run normal clients that connect to your server LAN IP
20:31 MineTestUser Ohhkay that makes more sense
20:31 MineTestUser that's why my localhost method isn't working yet...
20:32 cy1          So, if you git merge to make your changes compatible with upstream, never abort the merge or it'll just silently discard everything you've done. Because it's a stupid program full of stupid. >:(
20:32 thexyz       cy1: didn't you know?
20:32 thexyz       git - the stupid content tracker
20:32 thexyz       according to manpages
20:33 cy1          thexyz: yeah, well it's supposed to be stupid in the good way as in "Delete all the stuff? Durr hurr I'll just make a revision for that."
20:33 VanessaE     delete all the things!
20:33 VanessaE     *worried look*
20:34 VanessaE     delete ALL the things?
20:34 MineTestUser That's how ragecomics work
20:34 VanessaE     :)
20:35 MineTestUser wait, I ran [minetest folder]/Minetest.exe --server, and nothing happened
20:44 cy1          What I do is: minetestserver --worldname epic
20:44 cy1          I dunno about .exe or w/ev though
20:45 VanessaE     wouldn't you want to run the server graphically also, so you can play along with everyone else?
20:45 MineTestUser Yes
20:45 VanessaE     in that case, do it from the game's advanced screen
20:45 MineTestUser That would be so much easier :)
20:46 VanessaE     plug in your username and password to use for your admin account (can be anything).  Leave address empty.  port = 30000.
20:46 VanessaE     have your clients connect to your server computer's LAN IP address and that port number.
20:46 MineTestUser okay! :D
20:46 MineTestUser that works much better
20:46 VanessaE     as long as your server PC isn't blocking incoming connections from your LAN, it should work
20:47 MineTestUser Which it isn'
20:47 MineTestUser t
20:47 VanessaE     (otherwise, you'll have to play with your server machine's firewall()
20:47 MineTestUser I know how to make exceptions on COMODO firewall (which I have)
20:48 VanessaE     *nod* I figured you had some knowledge of it.  just pointing it out for clarity.
20:48 MineTestUser okay
20:52 cy1          VanessaE: no that's wrong
20:52 VanessaE     what is
20:52 VanessaE     ?
20:52 cy1          VanessaE: you run the server and then run your own client graphically :>
20:52 VanessaE     semantics. you know what I meant :-)
20:52 cy1          the server doesn't do any graphics... it just serves blocks
20:52 MineTestUser so what do I do?
20:53 VanessaE     MineTestUser: do what I said.  cy1 is being pedantic :-)
20:53 cy1          MineTestUser: plan this out beforehand next time! :T
20:54 MineTestUser Uhh, it's just a game with my bro...
20:54 cy1          I warned you about stairs, bro
20:55 MineTestUser what?
20:55 cy1          I TOLD you DOG
20:55 MineTestUser Stairs work just fine in the game, man! :P
20:55 VanessaE     greay, he's gone off the deep end again
20:55 VanessaE     someone call a paddy wagon!
20:56 VanessaE     s/y/t/
20:56 MineTestUser We'll need more than that.
20:56 MineTestUser /spawn CY1
20:56 cy1          sorry I was too busy checking out that
20:56 cy1          choice
20:56 cy1          ass
21:18 NekoGloop_   Meow~ :3
23:17 SegFault22   hey Bad_Command are you online?
23:20 SegFault22   -.-
23:41 Tekk_        there a way to make a placeable block out of cotton?